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She was with her fiance. 6 00:01:15,116 --> 00:01:16,576 (Annabeth) 'Is he good for this?' 7 00:01:16,618 --> 00:01:20,080 surgical intern at St. Mike's, on call midnight to 5 A.M. 8 00:01:20,121 --> 00:01:23,708 Left Mandy's a little after 11, scrubbing in at the hospital. 9 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:25,436 Cops arrested the victim's uncle Sam Carter. 10 00:01:25,460 --> 00:01:28,963 Witness saw him staggering out of the building around 3 A.M. 11 00:01:29,005 --> 00:01:30,298 Looking quite intoxicated. 12 00:01:30,340 --> 00:01:32,300 - Murder weapon? - It's a kitchen knife. 13 00:01:32,342 --> 00:01:35,220 On the floor, next to the body. Prints match the suspect. 14 00:01:35,261 --> 00:01:38,389 And forensics got another hit off a bottle of conditioner. 15 00:01:38,431 --> 00:01:40,225 He hung around to take a shower? 16 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:42,685 - Hey, he was covered in blood. - I would, wouldn't you? 17 00:01:42,727 --> 00:01:46,356 [Annabeth sighing] So far it's a routine grounder. Does he have any alibi? 18 00:01:46,397 --> 00:01:48,775 Wife claims he was up all night working at home. 19 00:01:48,817 --> 00:01:50,860 - Some kind of computer whiz. - Software engineer. 20 00:01:50,902 --> 00:01:53,029 Sounds like the right guy. We have a motive? 21 00:01:53,071 --> 00:01:55,615 Her fiance popped the question last night, she said yes. 22 00:01:55,657 --> 00:01:58,451 Called the uncle's house to give the family the good news. 23 00:01:58,493 --> 00:02:00,995 Her engagement has something to do with her murder? 24 00:02:01,037 --> 00:02:04,499 Check out what they found on the uncle's computer. 25 00:02:09,712 --> 00:02:12,715 You really jumped the gun on this one, annabeth. 26 00:02:12,757 --> 00:02:14,551 Talk about a rush to judgment. 27 00:02:14,592 --> 00:02:16,803 We have Mr. Carter's prints at the scene 28 00:02:16,845 --> 00:02:18,138 and on the murder weapon. 29 00:02:18,179 --> 00:02:20,974 And I'm sure there's an innocent explanation for both. 30 00:02:21,015 --> 00:02:24,686 Is there an explanation for these? 31 00:02:27,772 --> 00:02:30,358 Pictures of his niece? So what? 32 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,279 Five hundred and sixty-four, to be exact, on his computer. 33 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,780 He even customized his screensaver 34 00:02:35,822 --> 00:02:36,990 with the name Amanda. 35 00:02:37,031 --> 00:02:39,284 There's nothing incriminating about any of these. 36 00:02:39,325 --> 00:02:41,369 He was a devoted and doting uncle. 37 00:02:41,411 --> 00:02:43,121 He was obsessed with her. 38 00:02:43,163 --> 00:02:44,765 Mandy announced her engagement last night. 39 00:02:44,789 --> 00:02:47,292 You didn't seem to take that news well. 40 00:02:47,333 --> 00:02:48,877 That's your motive? 41 00:02:48,918 --> 00:02:50,879 Ugh, please. 42 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:53,339 Mr. Carter, you can keep a vow of silence 43 00:02:53,381 --> 00:02:55,133 for the rest of your life. 44 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:58,678 We're gonna be charging you with Mandy's murder. 45 00:03:01,806 --> 00:03:04,475 No recollection of what you're talking about. 46 00:03:06,936 --> 00:03:09,147 None whatsoever. 47 00:03:13,276 --> 00:03:14,986 So who all was at dinner? 48 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:19,199 Sam, me, his brother Jordan, Sam's father Cyrus. 49 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,825 That the whole family? 50 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:22,911 Well, Sam has an older sister sheryl 51 00:03:22,952 --> 00:03:24,245 but we don't see her. 52 00:03:24,287 --> 00:03:26,539 - And after dinner? - We all said goodnight. 53 00:03:26,581 --> 00:03:27,916 Cyrus and Jordan left. 54 00:03:27,957 --> 00:03:31,169 Sam went out to his office to work, I went to bed. 55 00:03:31,211 --> 00:03:34,297 - He was up all night working? - Yes. 56 00:03:34,339 --> 00:03:37,008 Witness saw him coming out of her building at 3. 57 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:38,635 They must have seen someone else. 58 00:03:38,676 --> 00:03:41,012 They saw him alright, falling down drunk. 59 00:03:41,054 --> 00:03:43,264 Sam has been sober for years. 60 00:03:43,306 --> 00:03:44,557 When the police arrested him 61 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:47,185 he had a blood-alcohol level near the legal limit. 62 00:03:47,227 --> 00:03:49,187 I-I-I don't know how that could be possible. 63 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:53,608 Your husband seemed obsessed with his niece. 64 00:03:53,650 --> 00:03:58,738 You make it sound so... Unhealthy. 65 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:00,031 What would you call it? 66 00:04:00,073 --> 00:04:03,493 Sam and Mandy have always been close. 67 00:04:03,534 --> 00:04:05,912 Sam's mother was killed in a car accident 68 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:07,330 when he was 14. 69 00:04:07,372 --> 00:04:12,835 Diane, Mandy's mother, passed when Mandy was little. Cancer. 70 00:04:12,877 --> 00:04:18,174 I think that's why Sam and Mandy have always had a special bond. 71 00:04:18,216 --> 00:04:22,220 Listen, I know Sam is an odd duck. 72 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:23,972 But he is not dangerous. 73 00:04:24,013 --> 00:04:27,267 His prints are on the murder weapon, the kitchen knife. 74 00:04:27,308 --> 00:04:28,518 He was over there a lot. 75 00:04:28,559 --> 00:04:30,937 And in the bathroom, on a bottle of conditioner. 76 00:04:30,979 --> 00:04:33,022 That could have happened any time. 77 00:04:33,064 --> 00:04:35,733 When he's anxious, he washes his hands a lot. 78 00:04:35,775 --> 00:04:38,945 He must have been real anxious. Apparently, took a shower there. 79 00:04:38,987 --> 00:04:42,115 He could have. He's got a.. 80 00:04:42,156 --> 00:04:43,700 Cleanliness compulsion. 81 00:04:43,741 --> 00:04:46,202 Washing calms him down. 82 00:04:46,244 --> 00:04:48,913 I get it. Your husband and your niece talk. 83 00:04:48,955 --> 00:04:50,915 They end up fighting over her engagement. 84 00:04:50,957 --> 00:04:52,917 He stabs her, then he takes a shower. 85 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:54,961 Not to mention, to wash the blood. 86 00:04:55,003 --> 00:04:57,338 Look, I know he didn't do this. 87 00:04:57,380 --> 00:05:00,341 You should call Jordan, because I heard them leave 88 00:05:00,383 --> 00:05:03,052 around 11, just after I went to bed. 89 00:05:03,094 --> 00:05:05,722 So, he wasn't at his desk all night. 90 00:05:09,934 --> 00:05:10,768 No. 91 00:05:10,810 --> 00:05:13,271 She done lied to the police. 92 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:16,899 Imagine that. 93 00:05:16,941 --> 00:05:18,234 Mm-mm-mm. 94 00:05:18,276 --> 00:05:20,028 [Thrilling music] 95 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:23,364 Where'd you and your brother go so late? 96 00:05:23,406 --> 00:05:27,577 An aa meeting, one at midnight over on Willow and ashby. 97 00:05:27,618 --> 00:05:28,828 Not that far from here. 98 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:31,122 Yeah, it's walking distance, I guess. 99 00:05:31,164 --> 00:05:33,458 I just dropped him off and went home. 100 00:05:33,499 --> 00:05:35,168 Just dropped him? 101 00:05:35,209 --> 00:05:37,712 That's right. He likes to walk, clears his head. 102 00:05:37,754 --> 00:05:39,213 He can walk for hours. 103 00:05:39,255 --> 00:05:42,050 Not this time. We have a witness, saw him coming out 104 00:05:42,091 --> 00:05:44,635 of this building, a couple hours later, drunk. 105 00:05:44,677 --> 00:05:46,679 I guess the aa meeting didn't work. 106 00:05:46,721 --> 00:05:48,389 Fell off the wagon anyway. 107 00:05:48,431 --> 00:05:50,975 'Why do you think that happened?' 108 00:05:52,185 --> 00:05:54,854 I'll ask you the same question I asked your sister-in-law. 109 00:05:54,896 --> 00:05:58,066 What was the deal between your brother and your niece? 110 00:05:58,107 --> 00:06:00,651 Look, they were just close, alright? 111 00:06:00,693 --> 00:06:02,153 Nothing creepy about it. 112 00:06:02,195 --> 00:06:05,782 Your brother's being arraigned for her murder this afternoon. 113 00:06:05,823 --> 00:06:09,285 Me, I'd call that creepy. 114 00:06:09,327 --> 00:06:12,705 In the murder of Amanda Monroe, how do you plead, Mr. Carter? 115 00:06:12,747 --> 00:06:15,124 Not guilty, by reason of insanity, your honor. 116 00:06:15,166 --> 00:06:18,336 'Very well. I assume the issue of bail is mute?' 117 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:19,462 yes, your honor. 118 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:22,548 Then the next item on the agenda is a competency hearing. 119 00:06:22,590 --> 00:06:24,467 Defense requests Dr. Wolfe.. 120 00:06:24,509 --> 00:06:26,135 Mr. Carter's personal psychiatrist 121 00:06:26,177 --> 00:06:29,055 'to do an evaluation for the competency hearing.' 122 00:06:29,097 --> 00:06:31,474 and for the people, miss Scofield? 123 00:06:31,516 --> 00:06:33,017 Dr. Perrin, your honor. 124 00:06:33,059 --> 00:06:34,727 So ordered. 125 00:06:35,770 --> 00:06:38,523 (Annabeth) An insanity plea, good luck with that. 126 00:06:38,564 --> 00:06:41,401 (Conlon) What other choice do they have? We have him red-handed. 127 00:06:41,442 --> 00:06:43,319 (Annabeth) You think Porter could beat the odds? 128 00:06:43,361 --> 00:06:47,365 (Conlon) Not in New York, but Indiana has a bifurcated insanity verdict. 129 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:48,741 Gives the jury a choice. 130 00:06:48,783 --> 00:06:50,952 (Annabeth) Not guilty by reason of insanity 131 00:06:50,993 --> 00:06:52,578 or guilty, but mentally ill. 132 00:06:52,620 --> 00:06:55,873 Exactly, it's still an impossibly high bar. 133 00:06:55,915 --> 00:06:57,083 All my years on the job 134 00:06:57,125 --> 00:06:59,419 I've never seen a successful insanity defense. 135 00:06:59,460 --> 00:07:02,255 Dr. Perrin is doing our side of the competency hearing. 136 00:07:02,296 --> 00:07:04,715 The competency hearing is a formality. 137 00:07:04,757 --> 00:07:06,008 That standard is set so low 138 00:07:06,050 --> 00:07:08,261 he could be sticking cornflakes up his nose. 139 00:07:08,302 --> 00:07:09,679 As long as the court believes 140 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,431 he understands what's going on around him. 141 00:07:11,472 --> 00:07:14,725 He should, as long as he stays on his antidepressants. 142 00:07:14,767 --> 00:07:15,893 Let's make sure he does. 143 00:07:15,935 --> 00:07:17,854 His family says Carter's a recovering alcoholic. 144 00:07:17,895 --> 00:07:19,939 He's been on the wagon for many years. 145 00:07:19,981 --> 00:07:21,691 He went to an aa meeting that night. 146 00:07:21,732 --> 00:07:24,944 Our witness says he was falling down drunk at the crime scene. 147 00:07:24,986 --> 00:07:26,988 The defense may try to use intoxication 148 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:28,489 as a mitigating factor. 149 00:07:28,531 --> 00:07:30,408 I'll ask ray to retrace Carter's steps. 150 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:31,718 Let's depose the family as well. 151 00:07:31,742 --> 00:07:34,537 I wanna make sure the jury has a clear explanation 152 00:07:34,579 --> 00:07:36,330 of why Carter did what he did. 153 00:07:36,372 --> 00:07:39,834 - Crazy won't cut it? - Crazy won't cut it. 154 00:07:47,758 --> 00:07:50,112 Was your son drinking at dinner, the night Mandy was killed? 155 00:07:50,136 --> 00:07:51,971 He can't drink, he's on antidepressants. 156 00:07:52,013 --> 00:07:54,432 - How long's he been depressed? - For years. 157 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:56,809 Has he been more depressed than usual recently? 158 00:07:56,851 --> 00:07:59,270 Happens every year around the same time. 159 00:07:59,312 --> 00:08:02,064 You see, Sam lost his mother when he was a teen. 160 00:08:02,106 --> 00:08:07,320 So the anniversary of her death is hard on him, very hard. 161 00:08:07,361 --> 00:08:09,322 Does he typically drink on the anniversary? 162 00:08:09,363 --> 00:08:11,449 I thought he'd been sober for many years. 163 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:13,701 Oh, yes, he has. For 14 to 15 years. 164 00:08:13,743 --> 00:08:16,078 Well, if he hadn't had a drink in years past 165 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,040 what was so significant about this particular anniversary? 166 00:08:19,081 --> 00:08:21,250 Mandy getting married and moving away. 167 00:08:21,292 --> 00:08:24,587 If you ask me, it was more than he could handle. 168 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:26,964 Mr. Carter, don't you think your son's attachment 169 00:08:27,006 --> 00:08:29,842 to his niece was... Unusual? 170 00:08:30,635 --> 00:08:32,512 Mandy was very special to Sam. 171 00:08:32,553 --> 00:08:35,932 You see, they both lost their mother when they were young. 172 00:08:35,973 --> 00:08:37,600 And when she hit her teens 173 00:08:37,642 --> 00:08:40,478 Mandy started looking more and more.. 174 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,939 Like Angela, Sam's mother. 175 00:08:42,980 --> 00:08:45,274 Mandy reminded Sam of his mother? 176 00:08:45,316 --> 00:08:47,652 Yeah, she had a lot of her ways. 177 00:08:47,693 --> 00:08:51,489 She reminded us all more and more, the older she got. 178 00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:53,699 It's like we got her back. 179 00:08:53,741 --> 00:08:56,744 Despite his problems with depression and alcoholism 180 00:08:56,786 --> 00:08:59,372 Mr. Carter is fully competent to stand trial. 181 00:08:59,413 --> 00:09:00,540 Good. 182 00:09:00,581 --> 00:09:04,293 I wanted to ask you about his obsession with his niece. 183 00:09:04,335 --> 00:09:06,295 It's a classic case of transference. 184 00:09:06,337 --> 00:09:08,381 According to his father, as she grew older 185 00:09:08,422 --> 00:09:11,342 the niece began to seem more and more like Carter's mother. 186 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:13,886 Carter lost his mother when he was in his teens. 187 00:09:13,928 --> 00:09:16,472 Even though she died in an automobile accident 188 00:09:16,514 --> 00:09:19,517 he had a feeling that she had abandoned him. 189 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,935 'So as Mandy got older' 190 00:09:20,977 --> 00:09:23,521 and began to resemble his mother more closely 191 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:26,482 his attachment to her would naturally deepen. 192 00:09:26,524 --> 00:09:28,859 Then why would he kill her? 193 00:09:28,901 --> 00:09:31,779 'They said Mandy was getting engaged.' 194 00:09:31,821 --> 00:09:36,117 the fiance told us that they planned to move to Baltimore. 195 00:09:36,158 --> 00:09:37,618 So she was leaving him. 196 00:09:37,660 --> 00:09:40,580 Both physically and emotionally separating herself. 197 00:09:40,621 --> 00:09:43,624 The relationship he had formed with someone who reminded him 198 00:09:43,666 --> 00:09:45,960 of his mother, was being threatened. 199 00:09:46,002 --> 00:09:47,128 It was about to end. 200 00:09:47,169 --> 00:09:49,422 And that made him mad enough to kill her? 201 00:09:49,463 --> 00:09:52,300 I don't know what other factors might've been at play. 202 00:09:52,341 --> 00:09:54,635 His mother died around this time of year. 203 00:09:54,677 --> 00:09:55,845 'Anniversary effect.' 204 00:09:55,886 --> 00:09:58,472 it's a period of great stress and anxiety. 205 00:09:58,514 --> 00:10:01,434 It could've fully triggered his fear of abandonment. 206 00:10:01,475 --> 00:10:03,894 And put him in a murderous rage. 207 00:10:03,936 --> 00:10:06,355 Based on the evaluations of the psychiatrist 208 00:10:06,397 --> 00:10:07,982 who've examined Mr. Carter 209 00:10:08,024 --> 00:10:11,277 the court finds the defendant competent to stand trial. 210 00:10:11,319 --> 00:10:13,070 Your honor, may I say something? 211 00:10:13,112 --> 00:10:14,322 Normally, the defendant waits 212 00:10:14,363 --> 00:10:17,617 until the court addresses him, Mr. Carter. 213 00:10:17,658 --> 00:10:18,951 But let's hear it. 214 00:10:18,993 --> 00:10:22,079 These psychiatrists don't know what's best for me. 215 00:10:22,121 --> 00:10:24,165 Your honor, we just found out this morning 216 00:10:24,206 --> 00:10:26,584 that my client has stopped taking his medications 217 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:27,793 'on a regular basis.' 218 00:10:27,835 --> 00:10:30,338 why is that, Mr. Carter? Why have you stopped? 219 00:10:30,379 --> 00:10:32,131 It was making me feel lethargic. 220 00:10:32,173 --> 00:10:33,716 I understood it was for depression. 221 00:10:33,758 --> 00:10:35,593 It has the opposite effect on me. 222 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:38,346 It makes me feel... Bad. It makes me feel low. 223 00:10:38,387 --> 00:10:39,972 Your honor, the people ask the court 224 00:10:40,014 --> 00:10:43,726 to order Mr. Carter to resume taking his antidepressants. 225 00:10:43,768 --> 00:10:46,187 Both psychiatrists base their evaluations 226 00:10:46,228 --> 00:10:48,481 of competency on the assumption that you continue 227 00:10:48,522 --> 00:10:51,275 taking your medications as prescribed, Mr. Carter. 228 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:53,027 - 'Do you understand?' - Yes, your honor. 229 00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:54,695 If you don't comply voluntarily 230 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:56,822 the court will order that you be forcefully medicated 231 00:10:56,864 --> 00:11:00,201 in order to insure that you are competent to stand trial. 232 00:11:00,242 --> 00:11:02,328 - Miss Porter. - Defense has no objection. 233 00:11:02,370 --> 00:11:05,915 - The people? - The people concur, your honor. 234 00:11:05,956 --> 00:11:09,794 - Take your meds, Mr. Carter. - Yes, sir. 235 00:11:09,835 --> 00:11:11,921 The judge declared Carter competent to stand trial. 236 00:11:11,962 --> 00:11:14,131 No surprise. How's that working theory coming along? 237 00:11:14,173 --> 00:11:16,884 Carter was drinking at a bar few blocks from his niece's. 238 00:11:16,926 --> 00:11:19,720 Probably trying to get his nerve up to confront her. 239 00:11:19,762 --> 00:11:20,971 We finish deposing the family? 240 00:11:21,013 --> 00:11:23,349 Ed finally found sheryl Carter, the older sister. 241 00:11:23,391 --> 00:11:25,184 He's interviewing her now. 242 00:11:26,602 --> 00:11:30,481 So, you don't stay in touch with your family? 243 00:11:30,523 --> 00:11:33,317 - Exchange Christmas cards? - Not at all. 244 00:11:33,359 --> 00:11:36,904 Okay, well, tell me about your brother anyway. 245 00:11:36,946 --> 00:11:39,031 What's to tell? 246 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:40,908 He's screwed up. 247 00:11:40,950 --> 00:11:42,993 'Compulsive, depressed.' 248 00:11:43,035 --> 00:11:45,913 obsesses over stuff. Won't let go. 249 00:11:45,955 --> 00:11:47,832 You ever known him to be violent? 250 00:11:47,873 --> 00:11:49,166 Dangerous or threatening? 251 00:11:49,208 --> 00:11:53,087 A couple times I came home from work.. 252 00:11:53,129 --> 00:11:56,132 He'd broken into my house. 253 00:11:56,173 --> 00:11:59,135 Once he was in my bathroom.. 254 00:11:59,176 --> 00:12:01,095 Taking a bath. 255 00:12:02,430 --> 00:12:03,681 Freaked me out. 256 00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:05,516 Well, he is your brother. 257 00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:07,435 Yeah, but still. 258 00:12:07,476 --> 00:12:10,104 Don't you think it's a little weird? 259 00:12:11,605 --> 00:12:13,315 Yeah, a little. 260 00:12:14,108 --> 00:12:15,401 What'd you do? 261 00:12:15,443 --> 00:12:18,028 I called Lizzie to come get him. 262 00:12:18,070 --> 00:12:20,740 I can't deal with Sam's problems. 263 00:12:20,781 --> 00:12:22,324 I have enough trouble of my own. 264 00:12:22,366 --> 00:12:25,161 Your niece seemed to get along alright with him. 265 00:12:25,202 --> 00:12:26,036 'Mandy?' 266 00:12:26,078 --> 00:12:28,330 Mandy was a Saint. 267 00:12:28,372 --> 00:12:30,040 'It's my fault.' 268 00:12:30,082 --> 00:12:31,917 what is? 269 00:12:31,959 --> 00:12:34,837 I should have told her a long time ago. 270 00:12:36,046 --> 00:12:37,798 Told her what? 271 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:48,642 Before I broke off all contact with my family.. 272 00:12:48,684 --> 00:12:51,645 I slept with the windows locked. 273 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:54,940 I wouldn't even turn the air conditioner on 274 00:12:54,982 --> 00:12:56,150 in the summer time. 275 00:12:56,192 --> 00:12:57,651 - Why? - 'I was afraid.' 276 00:12:57,693 --> 00:13:01,530 I wouldn't be able to hear Sam if he broke into the house 277 00:13:01,572 --> 00:13:03,157 when I was home. 278 00:13:03,199 --> 00:13:06,660 You know what it's like to live that way? 279 00:13:06,702 --> 00:13:09,205 Why were you so afraid of him? 280 00:13:10,456 --> 00:13:12,166 My mother.. 281 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:17,129 My mother didn't die in a car accident. 282 00:13:18,839 --> 00:13:20,549 Sam killed her. 283 00:13:24,887 --> 00:13:27,097 Fourteen years old. 284 00:13:27,139 --> 00:13:28,808 You believe that? 285 00:13:28,849 --> 00:13:32,186 Got drunk and blew her head off with a shotgun. 286 00:13:32,228 --> 00:13:33,229 Why? 287 00:13:33,270 --> 00:13:35,606 What would lead him to do something like that? 288 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:37,650 - They had a fight? - Not that I know. 289 00:13:37,691 --> 00:13:40,861 Sam was one messed-up kid. 11, 12 years old.. 290 00:13:40,903 --> 00:13:44,281 He'd ditch school and go drink with his friends. 291 00:13:44,323 --> 00:13:47,201 - Come home and sleep it off. - What did your parents do? 292 00:13:47,243 --> 00:13:49,578 Tried all kinds of things to straighten him out. 293 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:52,706 Therapy, detention, none of it worked. 294 00:13:52,748 --> 00:13:55,000 Did he act out when he got drunk? 295 00:13:55,042 --> 00:13:56,669 Was he angry or violent? 296 00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:58,462 No, not back then. 297 00:13:58,504 --> 00:14:00,297 He'd just drink too much and act foolish 298 00:14:00,339 --> 00:14:03,175 and forget the stupid stuff he did when drinking. 299 00:14:03,217 --> 00:14:04,885 He had blackouts as a teenager? 300 00:14:04,927 --> 00:14:07,638 He and I both had our share of lost weekends 301 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,306 before we cleaned up our acts. 302 00:14:09,348 --> 00:14:10,683 The difference is.. 303 00:14:10,724 --> 00:14:13,477 I never drank a drop until mama was killed. 304 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:14,937 Tell me about that day. 305 00:14:14,979 --> 00:14:16,313 I came home from school. 306 00:14:16,355 --> 00:14:20,442 I remember, I was really happy for a change. 307 00:14:20,484 --> 00:14:22,736 I'd gotten an a on a history exam. 308 00:14:22,778 --> 00:14:25,322 I came up the street. 309 00:14:25,364 --> 00:14:27,283 Cops were there. 310 00:14:27,324 --> 00:14:31,537 Sam was on the front lawn, covered in my mama's blood. 311 00:14:31,579 --> 00:14:33,664 Daddy told me since I was the oldest 312 00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:36,125 I had to take care of Jordan and Diane. 313 00:14:36,166 --> 00:14:38,252 - Mandy's mother? - Yes. 314 00:14:38,294 --> 00:14:40,963 Daddy told me I couldn't ever, ever tell them 315 00:14:41,005 --> 00:14:42,256 what Sam had done. 316 00:14:42,298 --> 00:14:45,301 - And you were how old? - Seventeen. 317 00:14:45,342 --> 00:14:48,137 Diane was 16, Jordan was the baby. 318 00:14:48,178 --> 00:14:51,140 - That must've been impossible. - 'I dropped out of school.' 319 00:14:51,181 --> 00:14:54,768 all the lying I had to do, I couldn't concentrate. 320 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:56,770 Jordan and Diane knew I was acting weird. 321 00:14:56,812 --> 00:15:00,482 They used to ask me what was wrong, but I couldn't tell 'em. 322 00:15:00,524 --> 00:15:02,735 So, Jordan and Diane never knew. 323 00:15:02,776 --> 00:15:04,153 - Right. - Then Mandy never knew. 324 00:15:04,194 --> 00:15:06,989 She had no reason not to trust her uncle Sam. 325 00:15:07,031 --> 00:15:09,199 Daddy swore he was better. 326 00:15:09,241 --> 00:15:10,451 I didn't know. 327 00:15:10,492 --> 00:15:14,872 It was just easier for me to stay away from all of 'em. 328 00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:17,458 But I should have told her. 329 00:15:17,499 --> 00:15:18,959 I should have. 330 00:15:19,001 --> 00:15:21,587 Why didn't you? 331 00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:25,257 I was worried that if I made her afraid of Sam 332 00:15:25,299 --> 00:15:28,510 and she pushed him away, it'd set him off. 333 00:15:28,552 --> 00:15:31,013 He'd kill somebody again. 334 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:34,433 So what happened? 335 00:15:34,475 --> 00:15:40,856 The very thing I worried about all my life came true after all. 336 00:15:41,857 --> 00:15:43,776 I don't know about you, I got kids. 337 00:15:43,817 --> 00:15:45,778 A parent's worst nightmare, a kid dies. 338 00:15:45,819 --> 00:15:47,154 I personally think it'd be worse 339 00:15:47,196 --> 00:15:50,157 if they did something like this, killed somebody. 340 00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,743 - How'd it go down? - Neighbor called it in. 341 00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:55,663 We found the son passed out cold, covered in blood. 342 00:15:55,704 --> 00:15:56,872 Shotgun next to him. 343 00:15:56,914 --> 00:15:59,833 Mom was upstairs in her bedroom dead, finito. 344 00:15:59,875 --> 00:16:01,794 - Why'd he shoot her? - House was torn up. 345 00:16:01,835 --> 00:16:04,713 Looked like a burglary. We thought he had an accomplice. 346 00:16:04,755 --> 00:16:06,215 They ransacked the place. 347 00:16:06,256 --> 00:16:09,385 You think mom came home, caught them going through her things? 348 00:16:09,426 --> 00:16:10,719 That was the working theory. 349 00:16:10,761 --> 00:16:13,889 - Carter a kid on drugs? - Definitely. Drugs and booze. 350 00:16:13,931 --> 00:16:15,849 We'd been there before. The kid was trouble. 351 00:16:15,891 --> 00:16:18,477 I had complaints, kids drunk, puking on their lawns. 352 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:20,145 Why'd you think there was another kid? 353 00:16:20,187 --> 00:16:23,148 Her jewelry was missing. Husband filed an insurance claim. 354 00:16:23,190 --> 00:16:25,776 - What was Carter's story? - Said he had a blackout. 355 00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:27,069 Couldn't remember a thing. 356 00:16:27,111 --> 00:16:28,237 Been drinking all afternoon. 357 00:16:28,278 --> 00:16:29,697 Couldn't remember where or with who? 358 00:16:29,738 --> 00:16:31,949 - You believe him? - He was drinking, alright. 359 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:34,952 He was stink-o. The blackout? 360 00:16:34,994 --> 00:16:36,578 Just a kid's lame alibi. 361 00:16:36,620 --> 00:16:39,123 He couldn't come up with better at the moment. 362 00:16:39,164 --> 00:16:40,708 He never gave up his accomplice. 363 00:16:40,749 --> 00:16:43,002 There you go. You got to give him that. 364 00:16:43,043 --> 00:16:45,629 For a fallen down drunk, he was a standup guy. 365 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:47,548 Where was the rest of the family? 366 00:16:47,589 --> 00:16:48,966 We called Mr. Carter at work. 367 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:52,344 He didn't say a word the whole ride. I think he already knew. 368 00:16:52,386 --> 00:16:55,222 He wasn't surprised to see his 14-year old kid in handcuffs 369 00:16:55,264 --> 00:16:57,725 covered in blood, charged with his mother's murder? 370 00:16:57,766 --> 00:17:01,520 It was like he'd been expecting it. 371 00:17:01,562 --> 00:17:03,772 [Dramatic music] 372 00:17:06,525 --> 00:17:10,487 Sheryl told us your son killed his mother. 373 00:17:12,322 --> 00:17:13,407 Thank you. 374 00:17:13,449 --> 00:17:16,827 Sam was not in his right mind when he did that. 375 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:19,705 Because of his age, he was never charged with her murder. 376 00:17:19,747 --> 00:17:22,374 They sent him to a psychiatric facility for a year. 377 00:17:22,416 --> 00:17:24,835 Twenty five years ago, kids weren't tried as adults. 378 00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:26,712 Sam had no idea what he had done. 379 00:17:26,754 --> 00:17:30,883 It's a-a terrible thing to have the kind of problem Sam had. 380 00:17:30,924 --> 00:17:33,260 Major depression. 381 00:17:33,302 --> 00:17:36,513 I did everything I could to try and make him better. 382 00:17:36,555 --> 00:17:37,931 I quit a good job. 383 00:17:37,973 --> 00:17:40,809 Moved the family to Michigan when he was released. 384 00:17:40,851 --> 00:17:41,935 You even changed your name. 385 00:17:41,977 --> 00:17:44,188 We picked that up on the background check. 386 00:17:44,229 --> 00:17:46,648 All so Sam would have a fresh start. 387 00:17:46,690 --> 00:17:49,818 That's what you call a fresh start? 388 00:17:49,860 --> 00:17:53,155 Twenty five years of lies? 389 00:17:53,197 --> 00:17:54,823 My sister called out of the blue 390 00:17:54,865 --> 00:17:57,659 with some crazy story about Sam and mom. 391 00:17:57,701 --> 00:17:59,745 Sheryl's not exactly a reliable source. 392 00:17:59,787 --> 00:18:03,457 - So, I thought I'd come to you. - I'm so sorry, Jordan. 393 00:18:03,499 --> 00:18:05,125 It's true. 394 00:18:06,919 --> 00:18:10,464 This is a copy of the police report. 395 00:18:12,049 --> 00:18:14,176 My god. 396 00:18:17,054 --> 00:18:18,555 My god. 397 00:18:20,057 --> 00:18:23,102 How could they have kept this from me? 398 00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:28,607 My father has been lying to me my entire life. 399 00:18:28,649 --> 00:18:30,818 No, I had a right to know about this. 400 00:18:30,859 --> 00:18:34,696 - Yeah, you did. - I barely remember my mother. 401 00:18:34,738 --> 00:18:36,740 I hardly had a picture of her, even. 402 00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:39,118 'After she died, one day daddy just' 403 00:18:39,159 --> 00:18:41,537 gave all her stuff away. 404 00:18:41,578 --> 00:18:43,831 The girls got her clothes. 405 00:18:43,872 --> 00:18:46,250 The girls got her jewelry. 406 00:18:47,543 --> 00:18:51,171 I didn't get anything to remember her by. 407 00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:54,800 Not one damn thing. 408 00:18:56,260 --> 00:18:57,845 What's your angle? 409 00:18:57,886 --> 00:19:00,931 One was a shooting, the other, a stabbing, 25 years apart. 410 00:19:00,973 --> 00:19:02,558 It's unlikely we can get a murder 411 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:04,351 he committed as a juvenile into evidence. 412 00:19:04,393 --> 00:19:07,187 We use it out of court, rattle their cage with it. 413 00:19:07,229 --> 00:19:09,481 They might want to avoid making the murder public. 414 00:19:09,523 --> 00:19:14,570 - You want to offer them a deal? - Let me take a run at them. 415 00:19:14,611 --> 00:19:16,446 Your client pleads to manslaughter. 416 00:19:16,488 --> 00:19:18,615 Twelve years, it's a gift. 417 00:19:18,657 --> 00:19:19,825 Some gift. 418 00:19:19,867 --> 00:19:21,827 Well, he hasn't exactly been candid with you 419 00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:24,830 about his past problems with alcohol and violence. 420 00:19:24,872 --> 00:19:25,956 What past problems? 421 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:28,000 He's done this sort of thing before. 422 00:19:28,041 --> 00:19:29,543 What are you talking about? 423 00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:31,170 Tell your attorney about your mother. 424 00:19:31,211 --> 00:19:33,839 - My mother? - When you were a teenager. 425 00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:36,049 My mother died in a car accident. 426 00:19:36,091 --> 00:19:39,970 'How do you think a jury's gonna feel when they find out' 427 00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:43,807 that he shot his mother when he was 14 during a blackout. 428 00:19:43,849 --> 00:19:46,643 They won't. Even if this is true. 429 00:19:46,685 --> 00:19:48,812 It has no bearing on the current case. 430 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:52,149 'Oh, it parallels the murder of his niece exactly.' 431 00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:53,775 he murders a female family member 432 00:19:53,817 --> 00:19:55,944 under the influence, and then claims insanity. 433 00:19:55,986 --> 00:19:57,362 You'll never get it into evidence. 434 00:19:57,404 --> 00:20:00,407 - Bound to come out. - Are you threatening us? 435 00:20:00,449 --> 00:20:02,075 I'm urging your client to consider 436 00:20:02,117 --> 00:20:03,952 what he's putting his family through. 437 00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:06,997 Take the deal, Mr. Carter. Let's put this to rest. 438 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:09,124 I'm doing what they want me to do. 439 00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:12,169 Let's see what judge crenshaw has to say. 440 00:20:13,795 --> 00:20:17,216 The people's motion to admit the prior homicide as evidence 441 00:20:17,257 --> 00:20:19,092 in the current trial is denied. 442 00:20:19,134 --> 00:20:20,719 At this time, the defense would like 443 00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:23,388 the motion to include mr. Carter's prior homicide. 444 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:25,766 Your honor, you just ruled to exclude it. 445 00:20:25,807 --> 00:20:27,017 What's the defense up to? 446 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:28,894 If you would reconsider, your honor? 447 00:20:28,936 --> 00:20:31,063 What's on your mind? Why the change of heart? 448 00:20:31,104 --> 00:20:33,732 The prosecution wanted to include the homicide 449 00:20:33,774 --> 00:20:35,901 Mr. Carter committed as a juvenile 450 00:20:35,943 --> 00:20:37,277 as a prior bad act. 451 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:39,571 The defense's position is that the homicide 452 00:20:39,613 --> 00:20:41,782 demonstrates the length and severity 453 00:20:41,823 --> 00:20:43,200 'of Mr. Carter's illness.' 454 00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:46,036 Mr. Carter is, and has been since an early age 455 00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:47,347 subject to psychotic depression. 456 00:20:47,371 --> 00:20:50,832 I grasp the distinction. The first is prejudicial. 457 00:20:50,874 --> 00:20:52,501 'This forms the basis of his plea.' 458 00:20:52,542 --> 00:20:55,754 the defense would like to motion to include his medical records 459 00:20:55,796 --> 00:20:58,173 from the corin psychiatric institute for juveniles. 460 00:20:58,215 --> 00:21:00,050 Mr. Conlon, anything you'd like to add? 461 00:21:00,092 --> 00:21:02,636 The people have no objection to its inclusion. 462 00:21:02,678 --> 00:21:03,845 It was our idea. 463 00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:07,474 Then I'll allow the prior homicide and juvenile records. 464 00:21:09,351 --> 00:21:11,645 The defense has the burden of proof. 465 00:21:11,687 --> 00:21:14,481 Porter's just trying to bolster the insanity plea any way. 466 00:21:14,523 --> 00:21:16,984 They wanna use his year in a psych ward 467 00:21:17,025 --> 00:21:18,235 as evidence of insanity. 468 00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:19,486 We can as easily argue 469 00:21:19,528 --> 00:21:21,405 he benefited from being institutionalized. 470 00:21:21,446 --> 00:21:24,199 I think in the end, it'll come down to how 471 00:21:24,241 --> 00:21:25,826 Carter does on the stand. 472 00:21:25,867 --> 00:21:27,244 You're taking a risk. 473 00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:29,413 It's odd, the defense going first. 474 00:21:29,454 --> 00:21:31,832 Sort of like opposite day. 475 00:21:33,917 --> 00:21:35,585 You guys never did opposite day? 476 00:21:35,627 --> 00:21:37,921 Have dinner for breakfast and end the day 477 00:21:37,963 --> 00:21:39,381 with pancakes and maple syrup? 478 00:21:39,423 --> 00:21:41,508 My wife did that once with our daughter. 479 00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:43,802 At my house, every day was "stay-on-track 480 00:21:43,844 --> 00:21:45,470 no-matter-what, Maureen" day. 481 00:21:45,512 --> 00:21:47,931 Speaking of staying on track, get with Dr. Peron. 482 00:21:47,973 --> 00:21:50,142 Review the interview she did with Sam Carter 483 00:21:50,183 --> 00:21:53,603 for his competency hearing. 484 00:21:53,645 --> 00:21:56,064 Amanda called that night. 485 00:21:56,106 --> 00:21:59,776 And said that she was moving away. 486 00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:02,571 It made me feel so bad inside. 487 00:22:02,612 --> 00:22:05,115 I wanted a drink so badly. 488 00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:07,034 So I could stop thinking about it. 489 00:22:07,075 --> 00:22:09,328 I kept coming back to the same thought. 490 00:22:09,369 --> 00:22:13,540 I gotta stop Mandy from leaving. 491 00:22:14,958 --> 00:22:17,419 So, I went over to her place, just to talk. 492 00:22:17,461 --> 00:22:19,713 There's nothing Mr. Carter said that indicates 493 00:22:19,755 --> 00:22:22,674 he experienced disassociation when he killed his niece. 494 00:22:22,716 --> 00:22:24,092 Did he lose touch with reality? 495 00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:27,179 Blacking out doesn't involve losing contact with reality. 496 00:22:27,220 --> 00:22:29,097 'The person experiences amnesia, yes.' 497 00:22:29,139 --> 00:22:31,600 but he's still in contact with his surroundings. 498 00:22:31,641 --> 00:22:34,019 So, he's not halucinating or hearing voices? 499 00:22:34,061 --> 00:22:36,563 No, that's something different. A psychotic break. 500 00:22:36,605 --> 00:22:38,732 The defense is arguing just that. 501 00:22:38,774 --> 00:22:41,777 Could alcohol have triggered a psychotic break? 502 00:22:41,818 --> 00:22:43,070 I see no evidence of that. 503 00:22:43,111 --> 00:22:45,781 They're trying to use his mother's murder to argue 504 00:22:45,822 --> 00:22:48,158 that he's been psychotic since he was a teenager. 505 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,119 There are many cases of teenagers killing their parents. 506 00:22:51,161 --> 00:22:52,954 They're angry, they're impulsive. 507 00:22:52,996 --> 00:22:54,790 It doesn't mean they're psychotic. 508 00:22:54,831 --> 00:22:56,291 'What we do know about Carter' 509 00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:59,586 is that alcohol abuse was involved in his mother's murder. 510 00:22:59,628 --> 00:23:03,090 And alcohol abuse led to the stabbing of his niece. 511 00:23:03,131 --> 00:23:05,342 When he's had a few drinks, Sam Carter 512 00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:08,678 becomes a loaded weapon. 513 00:23:13,308 --> 00:23:14,702 Mrs. Carter, in the last several months 514 00:23:14,726 --> 00:23:17,104 has your husband's behavior changed in any way? 515 00:23:17,145 --> 00:23:20,774 I knew what to expect from Sam around that time of year. 516 00:23:20,816 --> 00:23:23,652 It's the anniversary of his mother's death. 517 00:23:23,693 --> 00:23:27,823 And so I would make sure he was taking his anti-depressants. 518 00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:29,991 But this time, it was really bad. 519 00:23:30,033 --> 00:23:32,619 - In what way? - He hardly ate anything. 520 00:23:32,661 --> 00:23:35,205 He'd be in his pajamas all day 521 00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:37,707 'sitting on the couch, wringing his hands' 522 00:23:37,749 --> 00:23:39,376 'and listening to the same cd' 523 00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,837 over and over, until I thought I'd scream. 524 00:23:41,878 --> 00:23:45,132 Did you know what he had done to his mother? 525 00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:49,511 No, he never told me what he did. 526 00:23:49,553 --> 00:23:51,430 'The night your niece was murdered' 527 00:23:51,471 --> 00:23:54,224 she called your house. 528 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:57,144 To tell us that she was engaged. 529 00:23:57,185 --> 00:24:00,063 That she and her fiance would be leaving town. 530 00:24:00,105 --> 00:24:02,149 How did your husband react? 531 00:24:02,190 --> 00:24:03,859 He was upset. 532 00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:06,945 I was worried that he would fall off the wagon. 533 00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:09,990 What happens when your husband drinks? 534 00:24:10,031 --> 00:24:11,533 'He has blackouts.' 535 00:24:11,575 --> 00:24:15,495 (annabeth) 'Mrs. Carter, of the 15 years you've been married' 536 00:24:15,537 --> 00:24:17,080 has your husband been depressed often? 537 00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:21,418 Often. Around the anniversary of his mother's death. 538 00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:22,878 'And during those depressions' 539 00:24:22,919 --> 00:24:25,881 especially the worst ones, around those anniversaries 540 00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:28,967 has your husband ever been ejected 541 00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:30,844 from a movie theater or a restaurant 542 00:24:30,886 --> 00:24:32,929 because he couldn't conform his conduct 543 00:24:32,971 --> 00:24:35,140 to socially acceptable standards? 544 00:24:35,182 --> 00:24:36,933 - No. - Has he ever been arrested? 545 00:24:36,975 --> 00:24:38,560 - No. - Traffic tickets? 546 00:24:38,602 --> 00:24:41,438 - Moving violations? D.W.I.'S? - 'No.' 547 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,773 have you ever called the police to your house? 548 00:24:43,815 --> 00:24:46,651 - No. - Ever afraid for your safety? 549 00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:50,780 No. 550 00:24:50,822 --> 00:24:53,158 That's all, thank you. 551 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,952 Mr. Carter is suffering with major depression 552 00:24:55,994 --> 00:24:57,120 with psychotic features. 553 00:24:57,162 --> 00:24:58,747 What symptoms are we talking about? 554 00:24:58,788 --> 00:25:02,167 Sadness, thoughts of extreme guilt, insomnia. 555 00:25:02,209 --> 00:25:04,878 Agitated behavior, uh, pacing. 556 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,463 Compulsive and frequent hand washing. 557 00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:08,465 And the psychotic part of the depression? 558 00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:10,091 A loss of contact with reality 559 00:25:10,133 --> 00:25:12,886 manifested by delusions or hallucinations 560 00:25:12,928 --> 00:25:15,305 that are consistent with the theme of a depression. 561 00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:17,265 When you asked Mr. Carter to describe 562 00:25:17,307 --> 00:25:18,683 the night he killed his niece 563 00:25:18,725 --> 00:25:20,369 how would you characterize his mental state? 564 00:25:20,393 --> 00:25:23,730 He was delusional. He had lost contact with reality. 565 00:25:23,772 --> 00:25:27,609 Did his mental state rise to the condition of legal insanity 566 00:25:27,651 --> 00:25:29,319 as defined by Indiana statute? 567 00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:30,487 In my opinion, yes. 568 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:33,031 Is the murder of Mr. Carter's niece 569 00:25:33,073 --> 00:25:34,741 connected to the murder of his mother? 570 00:25:34,783 --> 00:25:36,785 Mr. Carter suffers from psychotic depression. 571 00:25:36,826 --> 00:25:39,120 The night of his niece's murder, his psychotic break 572 00:25:39,162 --> 00:25:41,289 was triggered by heavy alcohol consumption. 573 00:25:41,331 --> 00:25:43,750 Something similar happened when he killed his mother. 574 00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:46,253 Did he know what he was doing during that killing? 575 00:25:46,294 --> 00:25:49,631 - In my estimation, no. - And when he killed his niece? 576 00:25:49,673 --> 00:25:51,007 I believe he had no consciousness 577 00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:54,427 of what he was doing and no memory of its aftermath. 578 00:25:54,469 --> 00:25:55,845 Thank you. 579 00:25:55,887 --> 00:25:59,641 Dr. Wolfe, what percentage of homicides in this country 580 00:25:59,683 --> 00:26:02,435 are connected to alcohol abuse on the part of the offender? 581 00:26:02,477 --> 00:26:06,231 The number's quite high, between 80 and 85 percent. 582 00:26:06,273 --> 00:26:09,442 So, would it be accurate to say, based on multiple studies 583 00:26:09,484 --> 00:26:13,196 that violence, homicide and alcohol consumption are linked? 584 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:14,281 That is correct. 585 00:26:14,322 --> 00:26:18,410 Isn't it possible, likely, Mr. Carter wasn't delusional 586 00:26:18,451 --> 00:26:19,953 when he killed his niece? 587 00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:21,371 'That because he'd been drinking' 588 00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:23,331 he acted on his violent impulses? 589 00:26:23,373 --> 00:26:25,917 That would be one interpretation, but not mine. 590 00:26:25,959 --> 00:26:28,211 According to you, he was delusional? 591 00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:29,462 Correct. 592 00:26:29,504 --> 00:26:31,840 We've only Carter's word for what he was thinking 593 00:26:31,881 --> 00:26:33,550 when he went to his niece's apartment. 594 00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,135 He's been totally consistent with all 595 00:26:35,176 --> 00:26:37,012 the mental health experts he's dealt with. 596 00:26:37,053 --> 00:26:38,888 He's told the same story to them. 597 00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:41,057 - His story's been consistent? - Yes. 598 00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:44,769 As consistent as the lie he's been telling for 25 years 599 00:26:44,811 --> 00:26:46,855 about the death of his mother? 600 00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:50,108 That she died in a car accident? 601 00:26:51,651 --> 00:26:54,446 'Your brother killed your mother when he was 14.' 602 00:26:54,487 --> 00:26:55,614 yes. 603 00:26:55,655 --> 00:26:59,075 A fact of which you were unaware until he murdered your niece. 604 00:26:59,117 --> 00:27:00,869 My family kept it from me. 605 00:27:00,910 --> 00:27:02,746 Every year, he's severely depressed 606 00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:04,390 on the anniversary of your mother's death. 607 00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:07,292 Sam always managed to do okay with his medication. 608 00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:10,086 Did you witness any unusual behavior on your brother's part 609 00:27:10,128 --> 00:27:11,963 prior to his murdering your niece? 610 00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:13,256 None that I can recall. 611 00:27:13,298 --> 00:27:15,175 Was there alcohol at the family dinner 612 00:27:15,216 --> 00:27:16,801 the night your niece was murdered? 613 00:27:16,843 --> 00:27:19,262 My father enjoys a good bottle of wine. 614 00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:20,430 We all do. 615 00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:21,973 Did your brother drink any? 616 00:27:22,015 --> 00:27:25,018 No, Sam knows he can't mix alcohol with his medication. 617 00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:26,311 - He knows better. - Yes. 618 00:27:26,353 --> 00:27:28,146 But he was upset about Mandy's engagement. 619 00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:31,650 I talked to him, I told him he oughta go to a meeting. 620 00:27:31,691 --> 00:27:34,027 So I drove him to one, about midnight. 621 00:27:34,069 --> 00:27:35,236 Did you pick him up? 622 00:27:35,278 --> 00:27:38,114 He said he'd catch a ride home with someone, or walk. 623 00:27:38,156 --> 00:27:42,118 But instead, he went drinking and then went to see his niece. 624 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,453 Yes. 625 00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:46,081 In the last several months 626 00:27:46,122 --> 00:27:49,709 did you ever stay over at your brother's house? 627 00:27:49,751 --> 00:27:50,835 No. 628 00:27:50,877 --> 00:27:53,963 So, you were not aware of his deteriorating mental state? 629 00:27:54,005 --> 00:27:56,091 - Objection. - Sustained. 630 00:27:56,132 --> 00:27:59,761 So, you were not aware of how long it took 631 00:27:59,803 --> 00:28:02,305 your brother's wife to convince him to eat a meal 632 00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:05,100 or comb his hair, or sleep for a couple of hours 633 00:28:05,141 --> 00:28:07,602 instead of staring endlessly at his computer screen 634 00:28:07,644 --> 00:28:10,814 and listening to the same cd over and over? 635 00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:12,399 Objection. Facts not in evidence. 636 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,984 Sustained. 637 00:28:15,026 --> 00:28:17,487 - 'Counselor.' - Mr. Conlon. 638 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:19,489 You set yourself a hell of challenge. 639 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:20,699 Regretting it? 640 00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:23,702 I could hardly do otherwise. My client's the real deal. 641 00:28:23,743 --> 00:28:25,745 Just depressed like the rest of us. 642 00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:28,373 According to Dr. Wolfe, he's delusional. 643 00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:30,667 Well, our expert witness beg to differ. 644 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:34,713 I don't think your Dr. Perrin turned the jury around. 645 00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:37,590 - I still have the edge. - Now who's delusional? 646 00:28:37,632 --> 00:28:39,134 You're putting him on the stand. 647 00:28:39,175 --> 00:28:41,636 Carter is genuinely unstable. 648 00:28:41,678 --> 00:28:43,930 I think the jury will find him very sympathetic. 649 00:28:43,972 --> 00:28:46,683 The jury expects to see someone talking to themselves 650 00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:47,976 and fighting imaginary dragons, 651 00:28:48,017 --> 00:28:51,354 anything less, he knew what he was doing. 652 00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,231 And so do I. 653 00:28:53,273 --> 00:28:56,359 When your niece called to say she was getting married 654 00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:57,736 how did you react? 655 00:28:57,777 --> 00:28:59,487 'It made me angry.' 656 00:28:59,529 --> 00:29:00,905 I didn't wanna think about it. 657 00:29:00,947 --> 00:29:05,452 - What did you do? - I went to a meeting, but left. 658 00:29:05,493 --> 00:29:06,786 'I was restless.' 659 00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:09,247 - I went to a bar. - You went to a bar. 660 00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:12,584 - Did you have a drink? - Three or four shots, yes. 661 00:29:12,625 --> 00:29:15,628 We heard testimony from the bartender that night 662 00:29:15,670 --> 00:29:17,547 who said you had six or seven. 663 00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:21,342 That you were, in his words, "sloppy drunk." 664 00:29:21,384 --> 00:29:23,678 'It could've happened.' 665 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:25,972 I don't remember. 666 00:29:26,014 --> 00:29:29,309 You'd been sober for 14 years. 667 00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:34,230 Why did you take a drink that night? 668 00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:36,858 So, I could stop the thoughts. 669 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:42,781 - What kind of thoughts? - About my mother. 670 00:29:42,822 --> 00:29:44,741 Thinking about how she died. 671 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:47,494 'What they said I did to her.' 672 00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:50,205 sometimes the thoughts... Keep coming 673 00:29:50,246 --> 00:29:54,667 and no matter what I do, the thoughts keep coming back to me. 674 00:29:54,709 --> 00:29:58,046 And-and Mandy made me feel better like.. 675 00:30:00,006 --> 00:30:01,341 My mother. 676 00:30:02,217 --> 00:30:06,471 And... like a little part of her was still here. 677 00:30:06,513 --> 00:30:10,600 I... didn't want her to go. I had to go and see her. 678 00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:13,561 - So, you went to Mandy's place? - Yes. 679 00:30:13,603 --> 00:30:15,605 Was she glad to see you? 680 00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:19,067 She seemed confused. 681 00:30:19,108 --> 00:30:21,861 - I think I woke her up. - Then what happened? 682 00:30:21,903 --> 00:30:23,279 I started talking to her 683 00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:27,659 and... i told her I didn't want her to leave. 684 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:28,952 'How did she react?' 685 00:30:28,993 --> 00:30:32,163 she started acting like she was afraid of me 686 00:30:32,205 --> 00:30:33,081 like I was crazy 687 00:30:33,122 --> 00:30:36,543 and-and not making any sense.. 688 00:30:36,584 --> 00:30:38,628 She wasn't listening to me anymore. 689 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:40,880 And then what happened? 690 00:30:41,381 --> 00:30:43,091 I don't remember. 691 00:30:43,132 --> 00:30:45,009 What is the next thing 692 00:30:45,051 --> 00:30:47,846 you do remember about that night? 693 00:30:47,887 --> 00:30:52,183 I was waking up at my desk 694 00:30:52,225 --> 00:30:55,186 and the police were arresting me for Mandy's murder. 695 00:30:56,938 --> 00:30:59,148 Thank you. 696 00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:01,776 Mr. Carter, when you were at the bar 697 00:31:01,818 --> 00:31:03,319 with these thoughts of your mother 698 00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:04,946 and Mandy racing through your brain 699 00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:07,866 why didn't you call your wife to come pick you up 700 00:31:07,907 --> 00:31:09,951 instead of having yet one more drink? 701 00:31:09,993 --> 00:31:11,494 I wish that I had. 702 00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:14,581 You have no memory of taking a kitchen knife 703 00:31:14,622 --> 00:31:17,125 and stabbing your niece to death that night? 704 00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:18,626 Oh, no, ma'am. 705 00:31:18,668 --> 00:31:20,003 Well, that's convenient, isn't it? 706 00:31:20,044 --> 00:31:22,171 - Objection, your honor. - Sustained. 707 00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:24,007 No memory of taking a shower 708 00:31:24,048 --> 00:31:26,426 after killing her to wash off the blood? 709 00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:27,594 No, ma'am. 710 00:31:27,635 --> 00:31:29,304 - That's hard to believe. - Your honor. 711 00:31:29,345 --> 00:31:31,514 (Judge) 'Do you have a question for the witness?' 712 00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:33,367 (annabeth) 'You remember going there that night' 713 00:31:33,391 --> 00:31:36,644 and talking to your niece. You even remember what you said. 714 00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:37,812 Yes, ma'am. 715 00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:40,106 You don't remember the crucial event of that night. 716 00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:42,483 - Killing your niece. - No, ma'am, I don't. 717 00:31:42,525 --> 00:31:45,111 No more questions, your honor. 718 00:31:46,779 --> 00:31:48,990 Sam Carter was a depressed teenager 719 00:31:49,032 --> 00:31:51,993 who had been self-medicating with alcohol and drugs 720 00:31:52,035 --> 00:31:53,244 when he killed his mother. 721 00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:56,039 'Every year on the anniversary of her death' 722 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,707 he suffers from depression. 723 00:31:57,749 --> 00:32:00,126 This year... His depression 724 00:32:00,168 --> 00:32:01,961 was more severe than ever before 725 00:32:02,003 --> 00:32:04,005 'and he had a psychotic break.' 726 00:32:04,047 --> 00:32:05,840 the same kind of psychotic break 727 00:32:05,882 --> 00:32:09,260 he suffered just before he killed his mother. 728 00:32:09,302 --> 00:32:13,973 He was legally insane 729 00:32:14,015 --> 00:32:16,142 at the time he killed his niece. 730 00:32:16,184 --> 00:32:17,453 (Maureen) 'The people acknowledge' 731 00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:21,105 that the defendant suffers from depression. 732 00:32:21,147 --> 00:32:23,983 But so do many millions of people 733 00:32:24,025 --> 00:32:25,485 who never commit a crime. 734 00:32:25,526 --> 00:32:28,363 'Mr. Carter's marriage of 15 years' 735 00:32:28,404 --> 00:32:30,281 'as well as his long-term employment' 736 00:32:30,323 --> 00:32:33,326 testify to his overall stability. 737 00:32:33,368 --> 00:32:34,953 You heard Dr. Perrin's testimony. 738 00:32:34,994 --> 00:32:40,625 Mr. Carter had the ability to discern right from wrong. 739 00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:42,835 He made the wrong choice. 740 00:32:42,877 --> 00:32:44,629 That night, the defendant 741 00:32:44,671 --> 00:32:47,423 knowing that he had a substance abuse problem 742 00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:49,842 and a history of violent behavior 743 00:32:49,884 --> 00:32:51,177 and alcoholic blackouts 744 00:32:51,219 --> 00:32:54,222 and knowing that during one such blackout 745 00:32:54,263 --> 00:32:56,766 he shot and killed his own mother 746 00:32:56,808 --> 00:32:59,185 went to a bar and started drinking. 747 00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:01,479 'He became enraged at the idea' 748 00:33:01,521 --> 00:33:03,773 that his niece was abandoning him 749 00:33:03,815 --> 00:33:06,067 getting married and leaving him. 750 00:33:06,109 --> 00:33:09,821 And he went to her apartment and stabbed her to death. 751 00:33:09,862 --> 00:33:13,574 Sam Carter has never been legally held responsible 752 00:33:13,616 --> 00:33:14,951 for the murder of his mother. 753 00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:18,079 If he had been, this whole tragedy never would've occurred. 754 00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:22,291 I beg you... Hold Mr. Carter responsible 755 00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:24,711 for the murder of his niece. 756 00:33:26,087 --> 00:33:28,798 - Great closing. - Thanks. You too. 757 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,842 Jury's taking a long time. 758 00:33:30,883 --> 00:33:32,677 - Thanks. - Thank you. 759 00:33:32,719 --> 00:33:34,971 Trying to sort through the three possible verdicts 760 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:36,889 under Indiana law. Guilty. 761 00:33:36,931 --> 00:33:38,641 Guilty but mentally insane at the time. 762 00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:41,352 Not guilty by reason of mental defect or disease. 763 00:33:41,394 --> 00:33:43,479 - That's a lot to sort through. - Yeah. 764 00:33:43,521 --> 00:33:45,189 [Phone ringing] 765 00:33:46,607 --> 00:33:48,985 Annabeth chase. 766 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:49,902 Thank you. 767 00:33:49,944 --> 00:33:52,238 - The jury's back. - Okay. 768 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,949 [Dramatic music] 769 00:34:00,496 --> 00:34:02,248 The jury finds the defendant guilty 770 00:34:02,290 --> 00:34:03,624 of the murder of Amanda Monroe 771 00:34:03,666 --> 00:34:06,377 'but mentally ill at the time of the crime.' 772 00:34:06,419 --> 00:34:08,755 Mr. Carter, you'll be transferred 773 00:34:08,796 --> 00:34:10,381 'to a psychiatric facility.' 774 00:34:10,423 --> 00:34:13,718 the duration and terms to be determined at your sentencing. 775 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,512 [Bangs gavel] 776 00:34:16,554 --> 00:34:18,890 Congratulations, I guess. 777 00:34:18,931 --> 00:34:21,851 Who said a tie game is like kissing your sister? 778 00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:22,894 Vince lombardi. 779 00:34:22,935 --> 00:34:24,562 We have to prepare for our sentencing. 780 00:34:24,604 --> 00:34:28,357 Make sure he doesn't end up in outpatient care in 5 years. 781 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:29,567 Jury found him sympathetic. 782 00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:31,778 The guy's only a bender away from killing again. 783 00:34:31,819 --> 00:34:35,281 I want him put away for the rest of his life. 784 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,120 There's nothing in his gov files we can use 785 00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:42,413 to influence the sentencing. 786 00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:44,916 Carter was a model patient in the juvenile psych ward. 787 00:34:44,957 --> 00:34:47,585 No run-ins with other inmates. No problems with the staff. 788 00:34:47,627 --> 00:34:50,296 Prior to his incarceration, he had some curfew violations. 789 00:34:50,338 --> 00:34:52,215 A couple of drunk and disorderly charges. 790 00:34:52,256 --> 00:34:54,258 Ticket for loitering near a liquor store 791 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:55,510 the day of the murder. 792 00:34:55,551 --> 00:34:58,012 Nothing that indicates he was prone to violence? 793 00:34:58,054 --> 00:34:59,097 'No, nothing.' 794 00:34:59,138 --> 00:35:00,324 'according to the police report' 795 00:35:00,348 --> 00:35:03,684 the house was ransacked, jewelry and cash stolen. 796 00:35:03,726 --> 00:35:05,019 Wait, Jordan told me 797 00:35:05,061 --> 00:35:07,688 his father gave all his mother's jewelry to his sisters. 798 00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:10,775 Mr. Carter reported it stolen and filed an insurance claim. 799 00:35:10,817 --> 00:35:11,984 Just an opportunist? 800 00:35:12,026 --> 00:35:14,278 Saw his chance to commit a little insurance fraud? 801 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,865 His son kills his wife and he's thinking how to make money 802 00:35:17,907 --> 00:35:19,134 defrauding the insurance company? 803 00:35:19,158 --> 00:35:20,618 (Jordan) 'Cops made a mistake.' 804 00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:24,413 found the jewelry in my room a few days after my mom died 805 00:35:24,455 --> 00:35:25,748 in a bag in the closet. 806 00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:27,667 When I looked inside, I thought.. 807 00:35:27,708 --> 00:35:29,961 Well, it sounds dumb, but I thought 808 00:35:30,002 --> 00:35:32,171 maybe she's left it for me somehow. 809 00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:34,423 'So I put it away in my toy chest.' 810 00:35:34,465 --> 00:35:36,467 few days later, daddy came looking for it. 811 00:35:36,509 --> 00:35:38,719 - What'd you say? - Told him what I thought. 812 00:35:38,761 --> 00:35:40,888 That mama must've wanted me to have it. 813 00:35:40,930 --> 00:35:42,807 He told me she didn't put it there. 814 00:35:42,849 --> 00:35:45,101 It wasn't for me. It was for my sisters. 815 00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:47,228 Your father filed a claim on that jewelry. 816 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:49,897 'Collected a rather large payment.' 817 00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:51,732 doesn't surprise me. 818 00:35:51,774 --> 00:35:53,442 That's daddy for you. 819 00:35:53,484 --> 00:35:56,654 Rules were always meant for somebody else. 820 00:35:56,696 --> 00:36:01,117 Cheats on his taxes too. Don't tell him I told you. 821 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:03,744 This is all I have left of my mama. 822 00:36:03,786 --> 00:36:07,248 You believe it all fits in this little box? 823 00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,585 - My mama's wedding ring. - Mm. 824 00:36:10,626 --> 00:36:13,087 - A boy's class ring. - Mm. 825 00:36:16,424 --> 00:36:18,509 "K.g.?" 826 00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:20,303 Kevin grover. 827 00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:22,847 Mama would always tell this story how he took her 828 00:36:22,889 --> 00:36:25,349 to the senior prom and his car caught on fire. 829 00:36:25,391 --> 00:36:28,936 She'd laugh and say it was the hottest date she'd ever had. 830 00:36:28,978 --> 00:36:30,104 [Chuckles] 831 00:36:30,146 --> 00:36:32,899 She had some kinda crush on him. 832 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:36,360 She held on to it forever. He must've had one on her too. 833 00:36:36,402 --> 00:36:40,615 Sent the most beautiful spray of flowers when she died. 834 00:36:43,075 --> 00:36:47,288 - 'What do you want from me?' - Tell me about Angela Carter. 835 00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:48,539 Angela and me.. 836 00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:51,626 We were on again off again for a lotta years. 837 00:36:51,667 --> 00:36:55,379 - When she died? - We were on again. 838 00:36:55,421 --> 00:36:59,800 - And she was married then. - Yeah, but not for long. 839 00:36:59,842 --> 00:37:01,219 Did her husband know? 840 00:37:01,260 --> 00:37:04,639 She said she was gonna tell him, I don't think she ever did. 841 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,516 That's something you put off for as long as you can. 842 00:37:07,558 --> 00:37:09,644 It wasn't easy but we kept it quiet. 843 00:37:09,685 --> 00:37:12,146 Angela would come by most days. We'd have lunch. 844 00:37:12,188 --> 00:37:14,899 Did you have lunch with her the day she died? 845 00:37:14,941 --> 00:37:17,652 We did. Always the same time. 846 00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:19,445 We'd go to this little diner. 847 00:37:19,487 --> 00:37:21,197 Other side of town. 848 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,573 Early. 849 00:37:22,615 --> 00:37:24,367 We'd beat the lunch crowd 850 00:37:24,408 --> 00:37:26,869 so we wouldn't run into anybody that we knew. 851 00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:29,830 Angela would be on her way home by noon. 852 00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:34,794 - What? - Are you sure about the time? 853 00:37:34,835 --> 00:37:36,128 Yeah. 854 00:37:37,421 --> 00:37:40,925 Something about Angela Carter's murder doesn't add up. 855 00:37:40,967 --> 00:37:42,486 Her husband reported her jewelry stolen 856 00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:44,595 but later he gave it to his daughters. 857 00:37:44,637 --> 00:37:45,930 Minor league insurance fraud. 858 00:37:45,972 --> 00:37:48,724 I'm sure the statute of limitations has run out on that. 859 00:37:48,766 --> 00:37:50,768 The afternoon of the murder, Carter was ticketed 860 00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:53,271 for loitering outside a liquor store around 3 o'clock. 861 00:37:53,312 --> 00:37:55,439 Time enough to go home and shoot his mother. 862 00:37:55,481 --> 00:37:58,526 Here's the thing, she'd had lunch that day with her lover. 863 00:37:58,567 --> 00:37:59,944 - Her lover? - Ed spoke to him. 864 00:37:59,986 --> 00:38:02,154 I went back and looked at the autopsy report. 865 00:38:02,196 --> 00:38:04,865 She was killed within an hour of eating that meal. 866 00:38:04,907 --> 00:38:06,659 What's the official time of death? 867 00:38:06,701 --> 00:38:08,369 Uh, between 3 and 4. 868 00:38:08,411 --> 00:38:10,579 - When did she have lunch? - Before noon. 869 00:38:10,621 --> 00:38:12,164 Doesn't completely clear the kid. 870 00:38:12,206 --> 00:38:13,708 No, but it makes him more unlikely 871 00:38:13,749 --> 00:38:16,711 and it moves the time of death to about 1 o'clock. 872 00:38:16,752 --> 00:38:18,312 Did the police check the father's alibi? 873 00:38:18,337 --> 00:38:20,798 The case was so cut-and-dried. Only a cursory check. 874 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,676 Let's see what ed and ray can find out. 875 00:38:24,802 --> 00:38:27,805 Here's Cyrus's file, January, 1981. 876 00:38:27,847 --> 00:38:28,973 A letter to his co-workers 877 00:38:29,015 --> 00:38:31,017 telling them where to send flowers. 878 00:38:31,058 --> 00:38:33,352 Donation to the spca. 879 00:38:33,394 --> 00:38:35,730 Fax and report for a company vehicle. 880 00:38:35,771 --> 00:38:37,064 Check out the date. 881 00:38:37,106 --> 00:38:38,482 Same day his wife was killed. 882 00:38:38,524 --> 00:38:41,694 Checked out a company truck on his lunch hour between 12:32. 883 00:38:41,736 --> 00:38:44,405 Dented a Fender. Company files a claim for the bodywork. 884 00:38:44,447 --> 00:38:47,408 Question is, where was Cyrus Carter between 12:30 and 2? 885 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:49,493 Right around the time his wife was killed? 886 00:38:49,535 --> 00:38:51,620 - We got a solid motive. - A jealous husband. 887 00:38:51,662 --> 00:38:54,874 If we can place him near the crime scene, blow up his alibi.. 888 00:38:54,915 --> 00:38:57,418 Thinkin' there's a good chance the Indiana public employees 889 00:38:57,460 --> 00:39:00,046 insurance union might have a record 890 00:39:00,087 --> 00:39:03,799 of the specific location of his little Fender bender. 891 00:39:03,841 --> 00:39:05,885 [Dramatic music] 892 00:39:06,927 --> 00:39:09,555 We're charging you for the murder of your wife 893 00:39:09,597 --> 00:39:10,556 'Angela Carter.' 894 00:39:10,598 --> 00:39:12,600 [scoffs] That's just a crazy idea. 895 00:39:12,641 --> 00:39:15,394 You checked out a company vehicle over your lunch hour 896 00:39:15,436 --> 00:39:18,898 went home, killed your wife, staged a robbery to cover it up 897 00:39:18,939 --> 00:39:20,232 and then went back to work. 898 00:39:20,274 --> 00:39:22,401 (Janet) 'I completely agree with Mr. Carter.' 899 00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:24,779 a truly crazy idea and sheer conjecture 900 00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:26,072 without a shred of evidence. 901 00:39:26,113 --> 00:39:27,990 We have the records from Indiana electric. 902 00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:31,494 In your haste to get back to work, you hit a utility pole 903 00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:35,956 two blocks from your house at 1:10 P.M. 904 00:39:36,999 --> 00:39:38,393 (Annabeth) 'What happened, Mr. Carter?' 905 00:39:38,417 --> 00:39:41,212 you were in such a state after killing your wife 906 00:39:41,253 --> 00:39:43,005 that you got into an accident? 907 00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:44,131 It's not like that. 908 00:39:44,173 --> 00:39:46,675 I was driving through on my way back from lunch. 909 00:39:46,717 --> 00:39:51,347 In a company truck? Why didn't you take your own car to lunch? 910 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:55,101 Why would I kill Angela? I had no reason. 911 00:39:55,142 --> 00:39:57,311 (Janet) 'Mr. Carter, don't say anything else.' 912 00:39:57,353 --> 00:39:58,646 'this is fantasy, Ms. Chase.' 913 00:39:58,687 --> 00:40:01,607 you had all the reasons in the world, Mr. Carter. 914 00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:04,193 And his name was Kevin grover. 915 00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:05,694 'Your wife's high school sweetheart.' 916 00:40:05,736 --> 00:40:08,489 we know they were having an affair. Apparently, so did you. 917 00:40:08,531 --> 00:40:11,242 But you didn't know that they'd had lunch together 918 00:40:11,283 --> 00:40:12,410 'that day, early.' 919 00:40:12,451 --> 00:40:14,620 which means the autopsy results, based on the contents 920 00:40:14,662 --> 00:40:17,123 of her stomach place her death during your lunch hour. 921 00:40:17,164 --> 00:40:20,126 If they got the time of death wrong, that's their problem. 922 00:40:20,167 --> 00:40:23,129 You knew your wife was leaving you, didn't you? 923 00:40:23,170 --> 00:40:26,173 Your son didn't kill his mother. You did. 924 00:40:26,215 --> 00:40:28,426 'We have enough evidence to take you to trial' 925 00:40:28,467 --> 00:40:31,345 and convict you. I'm offering you a choice, Mr. Carter. 926 00:40:31,387 --> 00:40:32,638 Are you offering us a plea? 927 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,891 We'll discuss that if he tells us the truth. 928 00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:44,817 They were my kids. Our kids. 929 00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:50,030 I wasn't gonna let her take them away.. 930 00:40:50,072 --> 00:40:53,242 Call that man "daddy." 931 00:40:56,328 --> 00:40:58,414 They're my kids. 932 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,833 You let the police arrest your son. 933 00:41:00,875 --> 00:41:03,127 I knew nothing much was gonna happen to him 934 00:41:03,169 --> 00:41:06,464 because of his age. Besides, he's troubled. 935 00:41:06,505 --> 00:41:09,425 I thought they would give him the help he needed. 936 00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:12,303 You let him believe he killed his mother. 937 00:41:12,344 --> 00:41:14,096 I have other children to raise. 938 00:41:14,138 --> 00:41:18,058 If I went to prison, who was gonna provide for them? 939 00:41:19,727 --> 00:41:22,146 I gave my children a good life. 940 00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:27,651 You keep telling yourself that. 941 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,905 I think about it all every day. 942 00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:33,699 I don't know why I did it. 943 00:41:33,741 --> 00:41:37,745 Or why I did what I did to Mandy, either. 944 00:41:37,786 --> 00:41:39,955 You think there's a day, that goes by 945 00:41:39,997 --> 00:41:43,334 I don't beg her for forgiveness? Or my mother? 946 00:41:43,375 --> 00:41:45,544 You don't need to do that anymore. 947 00:41:45,586 --> 00:41:47,421 Not for your mother anyway. 948 00:41:47,463 --> 00:41:49,798 How come? Why not? 949 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,134 You didn't kill her. 950 00:41:53,636 --> 00:41:58,516 Ms. Chase, there was blood all over me. 951 00:41:58,557 --> 00:42:00,142 My prints were on the gun. 952 00:42:00,184 --> 00:42:01,936 You were very drunk that day. 953 00:42:01,977 --> 00:42:04,605 You came home, the house had been ransacked. 954 00:42:04,647 --> 00:42:07,024 You saw your mother lying in a pool of blood. 955 00:42:07,066 --> 00:42:10,528 The shock of seeing her body must've been tremendous. 956 00:42:10,569 --> 00:42:13,531 The shotgun was lying next to her 957 00:42:13,572 --> 00:42:15,241 and you picked it up. 958 00:42:15,282 --> 00:42:19,328 The stress of what you'd just seen, you had a blackout. 959 00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:22,373 And when you came to, the police were arresting you 960 00:42:22,414 --> 00:42:24,917 but you didn't do it. 961 00:42:24,959 --> 00:42:28,295 - She was already dead? - She was already dead. 962 00:42:30,756 --> 00:42:33,050 And, all these years, I thought.. 963 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,347 If I didn't kill her.. 964 00:42:38,389 --> 00:42:40,182 Your father. 965 00:42:40,224 --> 00:42:43,060 He shot her and let you take the blame. 966 00:42:45,229 --> 00:42:46,564 Daddy wouldn't have done that. 967 00:42:46,605 --> 00:42:49,650 We confronted him with the evidence and he confessed. 968 00:42:52,027 --> 00:42:53,904 No. 969 00:42:53,946 --> 00:42:56,907 No, no, no. 970 00:42:56,949 --> 00:42:59,910 My daddy loves me. 971 00:42:59,952 --> 00:43:03,747 And he wouldn't let me suffer like that. 972 00:43:04,498 --> 00:43:07,334 He wouldn't let me think that I had done.. 973 00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:11,255 Something like that. 974 00:43:13,048 --> 00:43:16,427 He wouldn't throw my life away like that. 975 00:43:17,761 --> 00:43:20,055 I'm sorry, Mr. Carter. 976 00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:23,183 You're gonna have to wrestle with that one. 977 00:43:23,225 --> 00:43:25,394 And Mandy. 978 00:43:25,436 --> 00:43:28,814 You can lay your mother to rest now, at least. 979 00:43:40,367 --> 00:43:42,767 (Female narrator) Stay tuned for scenes from our next episode. 980 00:43:46,248 --> 00:43:48,375 [Theme music] 76306

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