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[Indistinct chattering]
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Trick-or-treat!
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[Doorbell ringing]
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[Muffled screaming]
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[Screaming continues]
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[Screaming continues]
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[Doorbell ringing]
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Hello? Yo, hello,
trick-or-treat!
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Trick-or-treat.
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[Police siren wailing]
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Hey!
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[Tires screeching]
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I'm told we have a suspect
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in the Liz garner
murder Halloween night.
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Donna Kale... Picked
up this morning.
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- You have your doubts?
- Have you seen the photos?
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'It takes a lot of muscles to
strangle somebody like that.'
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she's a meth head.
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Strength of ten men
when they're high.
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Plus, she was
caught trying to burn
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the victim's blouse
and pocketbook.
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She gave her statement?
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She said she found
the items in a park
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morning after the murder.
Then she asked for a lawyer
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then she clammed up.
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Public defender's on his way.
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- Motive?
- Drug robbery.
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Husband said the wife had
300 bucks in her pocketbook.
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You find the money?
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She was smoking the last
of it when we arrested her.
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Why take the victim's blouse?
The rape kit came up clean.
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Maybe she was making
it look like a sex crime.
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Neighbors called the
cops about some kids
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who were fooling on
the garner property.
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- Could've scared her off.
- You think a woman did this?
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It happens.
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And especially with meth.
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Look, this girl's
got quite a record.
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Started as a juvenile. She's
got drug arrest up the wazoo.
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Alright, if her
lawyer's on the way
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we'll take it from here,
detective. Thanks.
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Knock yourselves out.
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Felony murder.
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'Come on, annabeth. It's a
misdemeanor arson charge.'
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she deliberately destroyed
evidence from a homicide.
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She found the blouse
and pocketbook, okay?
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Then she freaked out
and tried to get rid of them.
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Three months'
probation, drug rehab.
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Suppose you didn't
kill Mrs. Garner
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just being there
when it happened
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makes you guilty
of felony murder.
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'That's 45 years in prison.'
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her one year old was in the
room when she was murdered.
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How did that feel?
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Until you tell us what
you know about this
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you're staying in jail.
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You can't hold her indefinitely.
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Evidence tampering
material witness
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accomplice and a
felony murder. Watch me.
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She participated in the crime
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or she's protecting
somebody who did.
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You're get her
talkin' about that
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we can discuss a deal.
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I'm giving you a chance.
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Don't blow it.
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Based on the size
and depth of the marks
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and bruises on her neck,
the m.E. Says Mrs. Garner
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was almost certainly
strangled by a man.
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A big man, judging by
the size of his hands.
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If Donna Kale was his
accomplice it's still felony murder.
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Police think it started
as a drug related robbery.
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But you're not buying it?
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According to the
m.E., the colorations
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of the bruises indicate
garner was strangled
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allowed to revive..
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Then strangled again.
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- Sounds like torture.
- Hm..
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Here's another reason.
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It's 20 miles from Donna
Kale's house to Liz garner's.
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How many junkies travel
half a way across town
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to Rob someone
they've never met?
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Show her mug shot to
Liz garner's husband.
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Donna Kale? That's who you
arrested for killing my wife?
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You know her?
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Yeah, she grew up down the
street. I've known her forever.
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This is gene Kale's daughter.
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She ever threaten
you? Or your wife?
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- Donna? No.
- She is an addict.
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I never thought she
was dangerous. She's..
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She's just sad.
She's really, uh..
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Screwed up, you know. She's..
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You sure she's the
one who did this?
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At the very least we
think she's involved.
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Meth can make people mean.
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Well, I've never
seen that side of her.
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I did see her, though,
the day after Liz was..
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The day after..
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[Intense music]
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It's okay. Take your time.
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I was, uh..
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Coming back from
the funeral home
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and her dad was taking down
his Halloween decorations
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and she was out
front talking to him.
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I remember thinking..
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You know, how
ordinary it all was..
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I'm about to Bury my wife and..
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Life goes on. Just..
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Donna have a boyfriend?
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There was this guy she used
to hang around with sometimes.
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- You know, he made me nervous.
- Druggie?
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Yeah. It was
written all over him.
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- Mrs. Kale?
- She died when Donna was born.
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And gene raised her on his own.
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Donna's not involved in
this. I know my daughter.
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With all due respect, sir,
your daughter's a junkie..
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A drug addict.
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I assume you checked her record.
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It's all possessions,
small amounts.
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She doesn't deal and she
doesn't steal to support her habit.
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She doesn't work either.
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[Sighs]
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I give her money... Sometimes.
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Look, I know it's wrong..
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But she comes by..
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Says it's for clothes
or to pay bills.
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I know what it's for, but..
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She's my kid.
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She's got a problem.
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She'd never hurt anybody.
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What about her boyfriend?
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They broke up last year.
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I met him a few
times. Tim something.
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Veeter, Tim veeter.
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Are you sure
about the time, Tim?
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It was Halloween night, man.
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You didn't do a
little trick-or-treating?
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You think he's involved?
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He's got an alibi for
the time of the murder.
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- Narcotics anonymous meeting.
- Why'd you bring him down?
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'Cause when we asked him
about Donna, he stopped talking.
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- Lawyered up?
- Sponsored up.
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Said he couldn't
talk to us about it
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unless we got his n.A.
Sponsor down here.
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Sponsored up? That's a new one.
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[Knock on the door]
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Could be him now.
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I hope so.
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Why, you got
someplace else to be?
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Mark shell.
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Halloween night, Mark.
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I was with Tim at St. Stan's
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from about a quarter
of 8:00 to 9:30, 9:45.
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We'll need the names of
everybody at that meetin'.
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So... you're ready to talk
about Donna Kale now?
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I saw her last night...
At an n.A. Meeting.
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She seemed like she needed
it. She was barely hanging on.
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And you know why, so tell me.
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[Intense music]
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This was a vicious homicide.
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Mother of two young kids.
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Now is the time to share.
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Donna told me
this in confidence.
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It's supposed to be
sacred what's said
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at those meetings to each other.
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If it helps get
Donna out of jail, Tim
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I think it's alright.
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She said..
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"I think my father killed
somebody last night
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'on Halloween."'
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- 'she say who?'
- That woman in the news.
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Liz garner?
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Donna Kale just flat out denies
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she ever told the ex-boyfriend
her father killed Liz garner.
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Without corroboration,
Mr. Veeter's statement is worthless.
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We should search
Kale's house anyway.
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We know Donna was there
the day after the murder.
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If either one's involved
we need to move fast.
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The ex-boyfriend's
statement is hearsay.
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To use it to get a search
warrant we need to corroborate.
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It's not the basis
for the warrant.
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Maybe we put into the affidavit
to persuade a friendly judge.
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It's risky. The trial judge
could invalidate the warrant
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and we'd lose any
evidence we found.
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We'll lose that evidence
anyway if Kale destroys it.
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Keep the affidavit simple.
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Basically, veeter's
statement is corroborated
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by Donna Kale's actions
the day after she visited
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'her father's house.'
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burning the blouse
and pocketbook.
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What about Donna Kale? We
either charge her or let her go.
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If her father is the killer, we're
gonna need her testimony.
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And if she's his
accomplice, she's still
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on the hook for felony murder.
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Charge her with evidence
tampering for now.
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And ask the judge
to set a stiff bail.
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We'll swear out
the search warrant.
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[Dramatic music]
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Will I be able to attend my
deacons' meeting this afternoon?
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I wouldn't count on making
that meeting, brother.
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'It's important. I'm on
the facilities committee.'
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rectory needs a new roof.
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Techs found a trace of blood
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under the lid of the
washing machine.
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I build birdhouses. Nicked
myself on a band saw.
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You ought to be
more careful, Mr. Kale.
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With luminol we found more blood
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smeared on the
front of the washer.
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- Somebody tried to wipe it up.
- Like I said...
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If it's yours, no problems.
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But if it's Liz garner's,
on the other hand..
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[Dramatic music]
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Where'd you get these?
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Huh?
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Where?
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Ed!
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Turn around.
You're under arrest.
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Mr. Kale, you have
the right to remain silent.
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Anything you say may
be used in a court of law.
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- If you can't afford attorney...
- I can afford an attorney.
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Excellent. The system works.
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[Dramatic music]
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Tear this place apart.
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[Music continues]
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Recognize any of these women?
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'Between '84 and
'97, a serial killer here'
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in Indianapolis, strangled
and suffocated eight women.
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He killed his eighth
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and as far as we know
last, nine years ago.
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Liz garner was
strangled and suffocated.
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(Ed) 'Yes, she was.'
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(annabeth) 'These are
photocopies of the driver's licenses'
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'of all the women he killed.'
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just sitting on the bookshelf
where anybody could find them.
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Talk about brazen.
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(Ed) 'Anne blackwood
was the last known.'
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1997. I caught the case.
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I remember the blackwood
murder, I was in law school.
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The killer had a
name for himself, right?
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The professor, that's the
name he used to sign the letters
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he sent to the
newspapers and the police.
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He would send copies of
the victim's driver's license
254
00:11:48,332 --> 00:11:50,209
'and a piece of fabric
from her clothing.'
255
00:11:50,251 --> 00:11:54,046
if it's the same mo as garner
strangled and suffocated..
256
00:11:54,088 --> 00:11:57,425
Why didn't I see it right
off? Wasn't exactly the same.
257
00:11:57,466 --> 00:12:00,845
And the garner crime scene
was nothing like the professor's.
258
00:12:00,886 --> 00:12:03,264
He was probably interrupted
before he could finish.
259
00:12:03,305 --> 00:12:06,058
The professor's crime scene
was always clean, right? No DNA.
260
00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:10,187
Pristine. Never left any hair,
skin, blood or fingerprints.
261
00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:11,564
Nothing.
262
00:12:11,605 --> 00:12:13,190
'Victim's body washed..'
263
00:12:13,232 --> 00:12:14,817
and naked on a
clean, white sheet.
264
00:12:14,859 --> 00:12:17,611
Another sheet laid over
like you'd see in a morgue.
265
00:12:17,653 --> 00:12:18,755
Something I don't understand.
266
00:12:18,779 --> 00:12:19,864
It's got all the earmarks
267
00:12:19,905 --> 00:12:22,074
of a sex crime but
he didn't touch them.
268
00:12:22,116 --> 00:12:23,993
In his letters he
claimed to be celibate.
269
00:12:24,034 --> 00:12:26,954
Insisted the killings were
about science, not sex.
270
00:12:26,996 --> 00:12:29,874
- What do you mean, science?
- The science of death.
271
00:12:29,915 --> 00:12:33,377
His letters said he was
doing research for a book.
272
00:12:33,419 --> 00:12:36,797
You really think
Kale is the professor?
273
00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:40,885
I'm not saying these
photocopies get you a conviction..
274
00:12:40,926 --> 00:12:43,429
But they convince me.
275
00:12:43,471 --> 00:12:46,223
Not me. Not that I
wouldn't love convicting
276
00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:48,225
a famous serial killer but..
277
00:12:48,267 --> 00:12:50,436
We're not gonna do
it with photocopies.
278
00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:51,562
Agreed.
279
00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:54,482
No, we need the actual drivers'
licenses, the victims' clothing.
280
00:12:54,523 --> 00:12:55,649
They're not in Kale's house.
281
00:12:55,691 --> 00:12:57,818
The cops and crime
techs tore it apart.
282
00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:58,962
Alright, keep working on it.
283
00:12:58,986 --> 00:13:00,488
In the meantime,
the blood evidence
284
00:13:00,529 --> 00:13:03,365
from Kale's basement came
back as a match for Liz garner.
285
00:13:03,407 --> 00:13:05,659
- The m.E. Confirmed it today.
- 'That's enough.'
286
00:13:05,701 --> 00:13:07,119
even if Kale is the professor
287
00:13:07,161 --> 00:13:08,788
we push ahead with
the garner murder.
288
00:13:08,829 --> 00:13:10,664
At least there, we have
something concrete.
289
00:13:10,706 --> 00:13:12,374
Guaranteed Kale's
defense attorney
290
00:13:12,416 --> 00:13:13,459
will challenge the search.
291
00:13:13,501 --> 00:13:16,170
The warrant was a little iffy.
292
00:13:16,212 --> 00:13:17,630
Talk to the daughter again.
293
00:13:17,671 --> 00:13:19,048
If she'll testify
where she found
294
00:13:19,089 --> 00:13:20,734
the blouse and the
pocketbook and corroborate
295
00:13:20,758 --> 00:13:23,469
what she told her ex-boyfriend,
we can shore up our case.
296
00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:26,639
Maybe if Donna Kale knows
her father is a serial killer
297
00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:28,933
she'll stop protecting him.
298
00:13:33,729 --> 00:13:36,023
What we discuss
today is confidential.
299
00:13:36,065 --> 00:13:38,067
- I need your word.
- You have mine.
300
00:13:38,108 --> 00:13:40,152
I can't speak for
her, of course.
301
00:13:40,194 --> 00:13:42,029
She'll keep the secret.
302
00:13:42,071 --> 00:13:43,364
How do you know that?
303
00:13:43,405 --> 00:13:46,116
Because it's her secret too.
304
00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:50,120
You told Tim your
father killed Liz garner.
305
00:13:50,162 --> 00:13:52,915
No. I didn't-i
didn't tell him that.
306
00:13:52,957 --> 00:13:54,583
We found her blood
in his basement.
307
00:13:54,625 --> 00:13:57,586
We found evidence in his
home linking him to other women
308
00:13:57,628 --> 00:14:00,965
other murders,
Donna, eight of them.
309
00:14:01,006 --> 00:14:03,092
[Dramatic music]
310
00:14:04,468 --> 00:14:06,220
'Maggie Kelly.'
311
00:14:06,262 --> 00:14:09,723
your father killed her
in 1984. You were six.
312
00:14:09,765 --> 00:14:12,059
He took her striped
sweater as a memento.
313
00:14:12,101 --> 00:14:14,270
He's a serial killer?
314
00:14:14,311 --> 00:14:18,148
- Jeffrey, he's the professor.
- Professor? You're kidding.
315
00:14:18,190 --> 00:14:20,442
No, unh-unh. It's not possible.
316
00:14:20,484 --> 00:14:22,194
It's not possible?
317
00:14:22,236 --> 00:14:23,279
Of course it is.
318
00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:28,492
'Rebecca bartlett, 29. Your
father killed her in 1991.'
319
00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:31,495
'he took her green print
scarf to remember her by.'
320
00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:32,746
'you were 12.'
321
00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:36,500
these women have nothing
to do with me or my father!
322
00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:39,879
Anne blackwood, 26.
He killed her in 1997.
323
00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,923
You were 19. He took
her purple baseball Jersey.
324
00:14:42,965 --> 00:14:46,260
- Donna, please..
- Leave me alone!
325
00:14:46,719 --> 00:14:48,345
[Sighs]
326
00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:50,306
We're charging
your father tomorrow
327
00:14:50,347 --> 00:14:53,309
in the murder of
Elizabeth garner.
328
00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:54,768
You knew Mrs. Garner..
329
00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:58,022
And her family.
You were neighbors.
330
00:14:58,063 --> 00:15:01,066
Donna, ask yourself.
331
00:15:01,108 --> 00:15:02,526
What are you doing?
332
00:15:02,568 --> 00:15:04,445
Why are you protecting him?
333
00:15:04,486 --> 00:15:07,072
[Instrumental music]
334
00:15:13,370 --> 00:15:14,872
[Instrumental music]
335
00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:17,541
One count of murder,
Mr. Kale. How do you plead?
336
00:15:17,583 --> 00:15:19,418
- Not guilty, your honor.
- Bail?
337
00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:21,211
On the matter of
bail, your honor
338
00:15:21,253 --> 00:15:23,255
the evidence in this
case is extremely weak
339
00:15:23,297 --> 00:15:25,424
not merely circumstantial,
it's inferential.
340
00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:26,675
It's forensic, your honor.
341
00:15:26,717 --> 00:15:29,053
The victim's blood was
found in the defendant's home.
342
00:15:29,094 --> 00:15:31,263
Save the back-and-forth
for trial, counselors.
343
00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:33,349
Defendant is remanded.
344
00:15:33,390 --> 00:15:36,518
I'll see you this afternoon.
345
00:15:37,811 --> 00:15:38,896
Some show.
346
00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:41,982
Thought you guys had a
big-time serial killer on your hands.
347
00:15:42,024 --> 00:15:44,360
- Where'd you hear that?
- Word gets around.
348
00:15:44,401 --> 00:15:46,254
- Cops talk, lawyers talk.
- We're investigating.
349
00:15:46,278 --> 00:15:48,781
In the meantime, we
have him dead to rights
350
00:15:48,822 --> 00:15:50,449
on the murder of Liz garner.
351
00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:53,160
Maybe. Maybe not.
352
00:15:53,202 --> 00:15:55,913
Motion to suppress the blood
evidence from the Kale house.
353
00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:58,624
- Dream on.
- Have a nice day.
354
00:16:00,793 --> 00:16:03,879
Well, we knew this
motion was coming.
355
00:16:03,921 --> 00:16:06,173
I wish we could get
Donna Kale to testify.
356
00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:08,550
I'm not sure keeping her
locked up is gonna work.
357
00:16:08,592 --> 00:16:11,762
She's holding on to her secret
like she's a drowning woman
358
00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:13,097
and it's a life preserver.
359
00:16:13,138 --> 00:16:15,391
Denial. Don't talk about
it, pretend it didn't happen.
360
00:16:15,432 --> 00:16:18,352
- Maybe it'll all go away.
- No wonder she takes drugs.
361
00:16:18,394 --> 00:16:20,980
She reacted to the pictures
of the dead women like
362
00:16:21,021 --> 00:16:24,066
she felt guilty for what her
father had done to them.
363
00:16:24,108 --> 00:16:27,152
Guilty? She was a child.
364
00:16:27,194 --> 00:16:29,196
Oh, man. Look at her arrests.
365
00:16:29,238 --> 00:16:32,241
Thirteen years old she gets
busted for booze and pot.
366
00:16:32,282 --> 00:16:35,202
I think she knew what he
was doing even back then.
367
00:16:35,244 --> 00:16:37,371
Keeping this secret
has ruined her life.
368
00:16:37,413 --> 00:16:38,622
Mr. Garner told ed and ray
369
00:16:38,664 --> 00:16:41,875
Donna has always been a
sad case, since she was a child.
370
00:16:41,917 --> 00:16:46,296
Raised by a serial killer,
how could she not be?
371
00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:49,049
Kale knew the
garners pretty well.
372
00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:51,468
For years.
373
00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:53,470
All of Kale's victims
374
00:16:53,512 --> 00:16:55,723
lived in shady side township..
375
00:16:55,764 --> 00:16:58,767
Within five miles of his house.
376
00:16:58,809 --> 00:17:01,937
Maybe he knew his
other victims, as well.
377
00:17:01,979 --> 00:17:06,358
We should start with
the most recent one first.
378
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,318
Anne blackwood.
379
00:17:09,194 --> 00:17:12,990
I think of Anne every day.
What I think is, she's dead.
380
00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:16,035
The man who killed her is
still out there walking around
381
00:17:16,076 --> 00:17:19,955
breathing the air...
Happy to be alive.
382
00:17:19,997 --> 00:17:22,166
- So he's the professor?
- 'We think so.'
383
00:17:22,207 --> 00:17:24,001
he killed a woman
a few days ago.
384
00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:27,421
He looks kind of familiar. But I
don't know, I'm not placing him.
385
00:17:27,463 --> 00:17:31,759
Did you or Anne ever attend
the first methodist church?
386
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,720
Sorry, presbyterian. Why?
387
00:17:35,345 --> 00:17:37,389
- He's a Deacon.
- A Deacon?
388
00:17:37,431 --> 00:17:39,725
Who would suspect a Deacon.
389
00:17:39,767 --> 00:17:43,187
Like I said, he looks
kind of familiar, but..
390
00:17:45,856 --> 00:17:48,442
(Ed) 'How about this one?'
391
00:17:48,484 --> 00:17:51,028
- 'now, who's that?'
- Same guy.
392
00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:52,529
That's what he looks like now.
393
00:17:52,571 --> 00:17:56,450
That's why he looks
familiar. The uniform.
394
00:17:56,492 --> 00:17:59,870
'I remember him. He
used to patrol around here.'
395
00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:01,080
he cited us once
396
00:18:01,121 --> 00:18:03,415
letting the dogs
run off the leash.
397
00:18:03,457 --> 00:18:06,543
Now we know how to connect
Kale to the victims, his job.
398
00:18:06,585 --> 00:18:08,146
Kale's job's giving
people tickets, right?
399
00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:10,172
Grass is long, Kale
writes you a ticket.
400
00:18:10,214 --> 00:18:12,424
Garbage can missing
lid, Kale writes a ticket.
401
00:18:12,466 --> 00:18:13,967
Riding a bike on the sidewalk...
402
00:18:14,009 --> 00:18:15,135
Kale writes you a ticket.
403
00:18:15,177 --> 00:18:17,137
We ran a computer
search of Kale's citations.
404
00:18:17,179 --> 00:18:19,389
He ticketed Liz garner
for a trash can violation
405
00:18:19,431 --> 00:18:22,059
one week before he killed
her and four other times
406
00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:23,894
in the three months
prior to her death.
407
00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:26,438
You found a similar pattern
with the other victims?
408
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,148
Computer records
only go back to '89.
409
00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:30,109
But from '89 forward
the answer's yes.
410
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:31,735
Kale ticketed every
one of his victims
411
00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:34,738
'multiple times in the months
before they were murdered.'
412
00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:36,198
that can't be a coincidence.
413
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,617
A defense attorney
would argue it's exactly that
414
00:18:38,659 --> 00:18:39,785
just Kale doing his job.
415
00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:41,703
That's why we gotta
through Kale's records
416
00:18:41,745 --> 00:18:45,332
from before '89, see
what else there is.
417
00:18:45,374 --> 00:18:48,293
Get a subpoena.
418
00:18:48,335 --> 00:18:49,795
Will do.
419
00:18:49,837 --> 00:18:51,171
(Maureen) 'Here's another one.'
420
00:18:51,213 --> 00:18:52,631
this one about Liz garner
421
00:18:52,673 --> 00:18:55,217
written in the
margin of a citation.
422
00:18:55,259 --> 00:18:59,805
"Lizzie g, home
alone, 10:36 until 3:49."
423
00:18:59,847 --> 00:19:03,600
"Bonnie arrives. Mr. G, 6:42".
424
00:19:03,642 --> 00:19:07,020
Just like the photocopies
of the licenses
425
00:19:07,062 --> 00:19:09,148
hidden in plain sight.
426
00:19:09,189 --> 00:19:11,692
If you consider burying it in
a hundred thousand pages
427
00:19:11,733 --> 00:19:14,361
of parking tickets and lawn
care citations plain sight.
428
00:19:14,403 --> 00:19:15,612
'But you see what I mean.'
429
00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:18,031
'Kale wants this stuff to
look like work-related notes'
430
00:19:18,073 --> 00:19:19,908
written in the
margin of a citation
431
00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:21,785
but you put it all together..
432
00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,453
He had 'em under surveillance.
433
00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:26,498
- He was stalking 'em.
- Planning their deaths.
434
00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:28,667
[Dramatic music]
435
00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:31,795
Annabeth, sorry to wake you.
436
00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:34,006
[Instrumental music]
437
00:19:36,258 --> 00:19:38,594
You charged Mr. Kale
for the garner murder.
438
00:19:38,635 --> 00:19:39,887
What's this about?
439
00:19:39,928 --> 00:19:41,471
Your client..
440
00:19:41,513 --> 00:19:44,224
Is the professor, Mr. Bosco.
441
00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:45,934
Mrs. Garner was
his ninth victim.
442
00:19:45,976 --> 00:19:47,269
'If you could prove that'
443
00:19:47,311 --> 00:19:50,397
I doubt you'd be sitting
here trying to make a deal.
444
00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:51,857
Her accusations are ridiculous.
445
00:19:51,899 --> 00:19:54,359
For Mr. Kale's confession
to the eight previous murders
446
00:19:54,401 --> 00:19:56,278
as well as Liz
garner's we'll agree
447
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,654
not to seek the death penalty.
448
00:19:57,696 --> 00:20:00,240
I can't advise my
client to take a deal'
449
00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:01,467
without knowing about your case.
450
00:20:01,491 --> 00:20:03,994
His work records connect
him to all the victims
451
00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:05,412
including Liz garner.
452
00:20:05,454 --> 00:20:07,956
They show how he surveilled
them, timed their attacks
453
00:20:07,998 --> 00:20:10,500
his points of entry and
escape from their homes.
454
00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,836
That interpretation
of my work records
455
00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:15,464
shows a lively
imagination, miss chase.
456
00:20:15,505 --> 00:20:17,174
' "June 12, 2006"'
457
00:20:17,216 --> 00:20:20,093
"8:47 A.M., Liz's
husband departs."
458
00:20:20,135 --> 00:20:23,013
"9:17, Liz goes
to grocery store."
459
00:20:23,055 --> 00:20:25,807
"10:51, Liz home. Ice cream."
460
00:20:25,849 --> 00:20:29,186
"6:24 P.M., husband Jim
home from hard day at office."
461
00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:31,730
Is that related in any
way to your work?
462
00:20:31,772 --> 00:20:33,357
'Yes, it is.'
463
00:20:33,398 --> 00:20:37,236
residents cited for violations
often make excuses.
464
00:20:37,277 --> 00:20:39,571
My detailed notes ensure
that when such excuses
465
00:20:39,613 --> 00:20:42,157
are less than truthful,
they do not convince
466
00:20:42,199 --> 00:20:44,701
our town's credulous
magistrates.
467
00:20:44,743 --> 00:20:47,663
If that's the best explanation
you have, Mr. Kale
468
00:20:47,704 --> 00:20:50,707
you're gonna be
executed for these murders.
469
00:20:50,749 --> 00:20:52,876
I should discuss
this with my client.
470
00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:53,961
'No need.'
471
00:20:54,002 --> 00:20:58,131
I'm innocent. I'll take
my chances at trial.
472
00:20:58,173 --> 00:21:00,717
Then we'll proceed
with the charges.
473
00:21:02,886 --> 00:21:05,347
I don't care what you
told Kale or his lawyer.
474
00:21:05,389 --> 00:21:08,058
I'm not ready to indict
him on the serial killings.
475
00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,060
These records prove
Kale tracked every one
476
00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:11,120
of the professor's victims.
477
00:21:11,144 --> 00:21:12,688
But not that he murdered them!
478
00:21:12,729 --> 00:21:14,147
If this were any other case
479
00:21:14,189 --> 00:21:17,067
I would go ahead and
indict but we cannot afford
480
00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:18,652
to be wrong about Kale.
481
00:21:18,694 --> 00:21:21,446
Or worse, right and
not get a conviction.
482
00:21:21,488 --> 00:21:23,657
Are you running
away from this case?
483
00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:24,574
Ed.
484
00:21:24,616 --> 00:21:26,952
Do you believe Kale
killed these women or not?
485
00:21:26,994 --> 00:21:28,388
Let's grab some
coffee, alright, man?
486
00:21:28,412 --> 00:21:30,998
That's a good idea. I
suggest you do that.
487
00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:32,374
They matter, conlon!
488
00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:34,710
Their families have
been waiting for years!
489
00:21:34,751 --> 00:21:38,005
Believe me, ed... I
want to indict him.
490
00:21:38,046 --> 00:21:40,966
(Conlon) 'So why don't you
find me the victims' clothing?'
491
00:21:41,008 --> 00:21:43,510
find me their driver's licenses.
492
00:21:43,552 --> 00:21:44,970
Find me the typewriter he used
493
00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:48,432
to type the letters that he sent
to the papers and the police.
494
00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:50,892
I'll indict Kale on
the professor killings
495
00:21:50,934 --> 00:21:54,604
when you find me something
other than your opinion
496
00:21:54,646 --> 00:21:56,857
about how to proceed
with a murder trial.
497
00:21:56,898 --> 00:22:00,235
I've done 43 of
them. How about you?
498
00:22:00,277 --> 00:22:02,904
You want to keep your
perfect record, is that it?
499
00:22:02,946 --> 00:22:06,241
- Your winning streak?
- 'Come on, big fellow.'
500
00:22:06,283 --> 00:22:09,911
before you say
something you really regret.
501
00:22:09,953 --> 00:22:12,122
[Intense music]
502
00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:17,502
Continue prepping
for the garner trial.
503
00:22:17,544 --> 00:22:19,546
We have the hearing
on bosco's motion
504
00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:20,756
to suppress in the morning.
505
00:22:20,797 --> 00:22:23,467
I'm not anticipating
any trouble, are you?
506
00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,677
[Music continues]
507
00:22:29,598 --> 00:22:32,934
If we lose the blood
evidence, we are in trouble.
508
00:22:32,976 --> 00:22:36,313
Then we'd absolutely need
Donna to testify against her father.
509
00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:40,734
- And if she still won't?
- He'll probably walk.
510
00:22:49,409 --> 00:22:51,203
The blood evidence
from Mr. Kale's house
511
00:22:51,244 --> 00:22:52,662
should be
suppressed, your honor.
512
00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:55,832
Indiana code 35-33-5-2
requires a search warrant affidavit
513
00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:57,501
based on hearsay
to be corroborated.
514
00:22:57,542 --> 00:22:59,419
The warrant was
based on many facts.
515
00:22:59,461 --> 00:23:01,046
It wouldn't have been issued
516
00:23:01,088 --> 00:23:02,357
without Timothy
veeter's statement, sir.
517
00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:03,775
Did investigator
Williams corroborate
518
00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:05,151
Mr. Veeter's
statement, miss chase?
519
00:23:05,175 --> 00:23:06,802
The totality of
the circumstances
520
00:23:06,843 --> 00:23:08,595
corroborated the
statement, your honor.
521
00:23:08,637 --> 00:23:10,806
You didn't quite answer
my question, miss chase.
522
00:23:10,847 --> 00:23:12,891
Without providing
any factual basis
523
00:23:12,933 --> 00:23:14,559
a drug addict reports
to the authorities
524
00:23:14,601 --> 00:23:16,812
his addict ex-girlfriend's
suspicion that her father
525
00:23:16,853 --> 00:23:19,356
killed Liz garner. How does
that corroborate anything?
526
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:20,649
Miss Kale visited her father
527
00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:23,044
shortly before burning evidence
taken from the murder scene.
528
00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:25,654
Critical claim of the
affidavit was that Mr. Kale
529
00:23:25,695 --> 00:23:26,947
murdered Liz garner.
530
00:23:26,988 --> 00:23:28,925
Under the Mason precedent,
the statement needs more
531
00:23:28,949 --> 00:23:31,094
than Donna Kale's whereabouts
hours before burning evidence
532
00:23:31,118 --> 00:23:33,120
from the murder scene
to corroborate that claim.
533
00:23:33,161 --> 00:23:35,414
The magistrate who issued
the warrant could have asked...
534
00:23:35,455 --> 00:23:38,917
It's not that magistrate's
court, miss chase, it's mine.
535
00:23:38,959 --> 00:23:42,754
The affidavit falls short, the
blood evidence is suppressed.
536
00:23:53,849 --> 00:23:55,225
Why are you letting me out?
537
00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:59,396
I thought you'll finally be
willing to talk to me if I did.
538
00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:00,772
I don't care what you do.
539
00:24:00,814 --> 00:24:02,691
I'm not talking to
you about my father.
540
00:24:02,732 --> 00:24:06,027
Donna, I saw the way you
looked at those pictures.
541
00:24:06,069 --> 00:24:07,446
You knew about those women.
542
00:24:07,487 --> 00:24:10,532
That's why you started taking
drugs when you were a kid.
543
00:24:10,574 --> 00:24:13,118
You knew what he was doing.
544
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,079
That must have been such
a terrible burden for you.
545
00:24:16,121 --> 00:24:20,375
I can't imagine what
you've gone through.
546
00:24:21,543 --> 00:24:22,878
I'm sorry.
547
00:24:22,919 --> 00:24:25,422
[Instrumental music]
548
00:24:32,387 --> 00:24:34,431
[Instrumental music]
549
00:24:35,515 --> 00:24:38,768
I want Kale indicted for
the serial killings today.
550
00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:40,437
- What?
- You heard me.
551
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:43,190
We're charging Kale
with the professor killings.
552
00:24:43,231 --> 00:24:44,399
Why the change of heart?
553
00:24:44,441 --> 00:24:46,526
Because ed here forced my hand.
554
00:24:46,568 --> 00:24:48,487
He leaked the
story to the press.
555
00:24:48,528 --> 00:24:50,864
'Now if I don't charge
Kale, I look weak.'
556
00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:53,867
if I don't convict him,
I look incompetent.
557
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:55,160
"Will the professor walk?
558
00:24:55,202 --> 00:24:57,204
"Indy's most notorious
killer's slipping through
559
00:24:57,245 --> 00:25:00,332
prosecutor's fingers."
560
00:25:02,375 --> 00:25:04,377
Wasn't me.
561
00:25:04,419 --> 00:25:06,296
"Asked why Kale
had not been indicted
562
00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:08,673
'"on the professor's
eight claimed murders.'
563
00:25:08,715 --> 00:25:11,218
"an anonymous source
close to the case said
564
00:25:11,259 --> 00:25:14,679
"that chief deputy prosecutor,
conlon was too cautious
565
00:25:14,721 --> 00:25:17,307
"to put forward a case
of which he was not
566
00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:19,100
100 percent certain
he could win."
567
00:25:19,142 --> 00:25:22,145
I don't care what you
think, I didn't rat you out.
568
00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:24,314
Then who did? If
not you, then who?
569
00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:25,482
I'm not an anonymous source.
570
00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,901
That's my story, I'd
put my name on it.
571
00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:30,445
If this comes back
to you, you're done.
572
00:25:30,487 --> 00:25:32,656
(Annabeth) Wait, wait.
573
00:25:32,697 --> 00:25:34,950
What if Kale leaked
the story to the papers?
574
00:25:34,991 --> 00:25:38,119
Why would Kale wanna be
charged with those eight murders?
575
00:25:38,161 --> 00:25:39,204
Attention.
576
00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:41,581
Appreciation for
his criminal genius.
577
00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:43,333
He's facing the death penalty.
578
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:45,377
And his lawyer
just kicked our butts
579
00:25:45,418 --> 00:25:47,170
on the garner blood evidence.
580
00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:50,715
Maybe he thinks he can get
away with the professor killings too.
581
00:25:50,757 --> 00:25:51,967
That's his fantasy.
582
00:25:52,008 --> 00:25:55,845
To be indicted as the professor
but acquitted of the crimes.
583
00:25:55,887 --> 00:25:57,806
Thumb his nose at the world.
584
00:25:57,847 --> 00:26:00,100
Well, that's quite a
gamble on his part.
585
00:26:00,141 --> 00:26:01,518
He doesn't see it that way.
586
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,312
He's so smart. It
isn't a gamble at all.
587
00:26:04,354 --> 00:26:06,356
For him it's the
ultimate victory.
588
00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:08,900
The culmination
of his life's work.
589
00:26:08,942 --> 00:26:10,652
I want the
indictments filed today.
590
00:26:10,694 --> 00:26:14,072
And I want a press conference
scheduled for this afternoon.
591
00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:16,157
If there's gonna be a show..
592
00:26:16,199 --> 00:26:20,370
It'll be my show, not Kale's.
593
00:26:23,707 --> 00:26:26,793
[Indistinct chattering]
594
00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:39,347
[Intense music]
595
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:42,934
[Crowd whispering]
596
00:26:51,818 --> 00:26:53,987
People versus Eugene
Kale. Eight counts of murder.
597
00:26:54,029 --> 00:26:56,615
Do you understand the
charges against you, Mr. Kale?
598
00:26:56,656 --> 00:26:58,366
- I do.
- 'How do you plead?'
599
00:26:58,408 --> 00:26:59,701
not guilty, your honor.
600
00:26:59,743 --> 00:27:02,871
Since the accused is already in
custody, I assume bail is moot?
601
00:27:02,912 --> 00:27:05,290
- I would hope so, your honor.
- 'Mr. Conlon.'
602
00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:09,169
Mr. Kale savagely murdered
nine women in their homes.
603
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:11,755
'I'm sure you'll agree
he poses a serious threat'
604
00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:13,214
'to the people of Indianapolis.'
605
00:27:13,256 --> 00:27:16,551
'were he to be out on bail
and commit another such crime'
606
00:27:16,593 --> 00:27:18,637
it would truly
be a tragedy, sir.
607
00:27:18,678 --> 00:27:21,473
I do agree, Mr. Conlon.
Mr. Kale is remanded.
608
00:27:21,514 --> 00:27:23,099
[Gavel striking]
609
00:27:24,684 --> 00:27:26,603
[Crowd whispering]
610
00:27:44,162 --> 00:27:45,455
Heard it was quite a show.
611
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:49,000
Kale loved it. Ate up the
attention with a spoon.
612
00:27:49,042 --> 00:27:50,752
I'm sure he's
never been happier.
613
00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:52,420
I was thinking
about his victims.
614
00:27:52,462 --> 00:27:55,215
Do you think Kale would have
eventually claimed Liz garner
615
00:27:55,256 --> 00:27:57,300
as one of the
professor's subjects?
616
00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,302
He got interrupted, the
professor never claimed
617
00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,262
any crime that wasn't
perfectly staged.
618
00:28:01,304 --> 00:28:02,764
Where you going with this?
619
00:28:02,806 --> 00:28:04,516
Maybe there were
others he didn't claim.
620
00:28:04,557 --> 00:28:06,476
That he botched for
one reason or another.
621
00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:08,687
Want us to look
through his work records.
622
00:28:08,728 --> 00:28:10,480
Find other women
he might've stalked.
623
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:11,773
Yeah. Cross reference.
624
00:28:11,815 --> 00:28:13,483
Female assault
and murder victims
625
00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:15,735
in shady side township
for the past 25 years.
626
00:28:15,777 --> 00:28:18,905
If we find a victim who also
received tickets from Kale
627
00:28:18,947 --> 00:28:20,532
she's probably one of his.
628
00:28:20,573 --> 00:28:21,825
She's also probably dead.
629
00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:24,494
Assault victims too, not
just murders. Who knows?
630
00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:26,663
If one of 'em
managed to get away
631
00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:29,249
maybe we even find a witness.
632
00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:35,088
(Ed) 'Excuse me, ma'am.'
633
00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:36,256
can I help you?
634
00:28:36,297 --> 00:28:39,718
Ed Williams, Indianapolis
prosecutor's office.
635
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:43,179
- Are you charlene Darcy?
- Yes.
636
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:47,642
Were you the victim of an
assault in December 1994?
637
00:28:48,435 --> 00:28:49,394
Yes, I was.
638
00:28:49,436 --> 00:28:51,771
Could I ask you
to look at a picture?
639
00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:54,983
We've come up with
a possible suspect.
640
00:28:55,024 --> 00:28:56,693
Sure.
641
00:28:56,735 --> 00:28:59,154
Oh, yes.
642
00:29:00,613 --> 00:29:03,616
He had a gun.
643
00:29:03,658 --> 00:29:08,413
He took me to the
basement and tied me up.
644
00:29:08,455 --> 00:29:11,541
Then he..
645
00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:14,711
Choked me until I passed out.
646
00:29:16,171 --> 00:29:19,716
When I woke up,
he asked questions.
647
00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:22,385
What did he wanna know?
648
00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:27,056
What it felt like to die?
649
00:29:27,098 --> 00:29:32,437
The last image that came into
my mind before I blacked out.
650
00:29:34,689 --> 00:29:38,359
How many times did he choke you?
651
00:29:38,401 --> 00:29:41,196
Three or four.
652
00:29:41,237 --> 00:29:45,825
The last time he must have
thought I was dead because..
653
00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:48,495
He untied me.
654
00:29:48,536 --> 00:29:50,288
I came..
655
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:53,458
I came to, and..
656
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:57,504
I was on, on the
floor on my back.
657
00:29:57,545 --> 00:30:01,257
'He was standing over me..'
658
00:30:01,299 --> 00:30:04,177
with his pants
around his ankles.
659
00:30:04,219 --> 00:30:06,805
And..
660
00:30:06,846 --> 00:30:08,848
He was..
661
00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:11,476
You know..
662
00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:15,355
Yeah, I-I get it.
663
00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:18,191
Uh, how did you escape?
664
00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:20,109
Well, my husband
wasn't feeling well
665
00:30:20,151 --> 00:30:22,862
came home from
work early that day
666
00:30:22,904 --> 00:30:25,490
which saved my life.
667
00:30:25,532 --> 00:30:31,371
The guy heard Bob in
the driveway, ran away.
668
00:30:32,747 --> 00:30:34,624
He masturbated over his victims.
669
00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:37,961
It might be why he cleans his
crime scenes so obsessively.
670
00:30:38,002 --> 00:30:40,755
Brags about the killing but
embarrassed by the sex?
671
00:30:40,797 --> 00:30:41,965
The professor.
672
00:30:42,006 --> 00:30:44,592
Never thought we'd
discover his dirty little secret.
673
00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:47,637
He's gonna be really embarrassed
when it comes out at trial.
674
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:51,099
So embarrassed he might
even wanna cut a deal.
675
00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:58,481
You remember her? Hm?
676
00:31:01,067 --> 00:31:02,151
She remembers you.
677
00:31:02,193 --> 00:31:04,362
Only it's not in a
very professorial light.
678
00:31:04,404 --> 00:31:07,866
- And what does that mean?
- He attacked this girl in 1994.
679
00:31:07,907 --> 00:31:10,827
Thought she was dead but
she wasn't, when she woke up
680
00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:15,123
the self-proclaimed
professor here was..
681
00:31:15,164 --> 00:31:17,667
Well, he knows
what he was doing.
682
00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:20,503
You never wrote to the
newspapers about her, did you?
683
00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:24,799
But thanks to his work
records, we found her.
684
00:31:24,841 --> 00:31:27,051
You ladies see things
in these work records..
685
00:31:27,093 --> 00:31:28,344
That just aren't there.
686
00:31:28,386 --> 00:31:30,847
I guess we'll find out
when miss Darcy testifies.
687
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:33,016
Tells the world what
she saw you doing
688
00:31:33,057 --> 00:31:34,434
when she regained consciousness.
689
00:31:34,475 --> 00:31:36,519
(Jeffrey) 'Once again our
meeting has barely begun'
690
00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:39,772
and you've seemed to turn
it into a kangaroo court, eh?
691
00:31:39,814 --> 00:31:41,274
I think we're done here.
692
00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:42,984
Guard.
693
00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:45,862
Wait.
694
00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:49,240
If this woman saw
you, it was 12 years ago.
695
00:31:49,282 --> 00:31:51,117
We dunno what they
can prove about her.
696
00:31:51,159 --> 00:31:54,579
Or how it relates to the murders
for which you've been indicted.
697
00:31:54,621 --> 00:31:57,290
He knows exactly what
he did to charlene Darcy
698
00:31:57,332 --> 00:31:58,708
and the eight others.
699
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:02,170
What he would have done to
Liz garner if he wasn't interrupted.
700
00:32:02,211 --> 00:32:03,796
It's why he washed them down and
701
00:32:03,838 --> 00:32:05,590
tucked them in
when he was finished.
702
00:32:05,632 --> 00:32:08,593
He was ashamed.
Not of the killing.
703
00:32:08,635 --> 00:32:10,511
Of the sex.
704
00:32:19,103 --> 00:32:21,981
I will tell you what
you want to know.
705
00:32:22,523 --> 00:32:23,650
You'll confess?
706
00:32:23,691 --> 00:32:26,527
To the nine murders
only, nothing else.
707
00:32:26,569 --> 00:32:29,572
I won't confess to what
you say I did to that woman
708
00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:32,992
and you will not charge me with
what she says she remembers.
709
00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:34,702
(Jeffrey) 'This is a
proffer, miss chase.'
710
00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:39,582
if we don't reach a deal, what
he says cannot be used at trial.
711
00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:41,626
Agreed.
712
00:32:41,668 --> 00:32:43,211
Go on, Mr. Kale.
713
00:32:43,252 --> 00:32:47,090
I wanna speak at
my plea allocution..
714
00:32:47,131 --> 00:32:48,424
For as long as I need.
715
00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:52,178
Guilty, your honor, nine
times. That's all you have to say.
716
00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:53,554
No.
717
00:32:53,596 --> 00:32:55,306
They were very dear to me.
718
00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:58,184
All of them.
719
00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:00,520
Anne..
720
00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:03,147
Maggie..
721
00:33:03,189 --> 00:33:05,191
Rebecca..
722
00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:07,276
Sarah..
723
00:33:07,318 --> 00:33:09,404
Virginia..
724
00:33:09,445 --> 00:33:12,490
Lisa..
725
00:33:12,532 --> 00:33:15,743
Joan..
726
00:33:15,785 --> 00:33:17,870
And Betty.
727
00:33:17,912 --> 00:33:21,457
I held them so
close for many years.
728
00:33:21,499 --> 00:33:25,169
I wanna share with the world
what I learned from them.
729
00:33:25,211 --> 00:33:27,338
My research..
730
00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:29,465
My book..
731
00:33:29,507 --> 00:33:35,138
Which is not yet written.
732
00:33:35,179 --> 00:33:38,141
I have so much
to thank them for.
733
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:51,237
We let him thank
his victims in court?
734
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,740
Revel in all the gory
details of their deaths?
735
00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:56,743
We take nine murder
convictions for the victory they are.
736
00:33:56,784 --> 00:33:57,869
Kale dies in prison.
737
00:33:57,910 --> 00:34:00,413
He wants to demean
his victims all over again
738
00:34:00,455 --> 00:34:01,539
and torture their families.
739
00:34:01,581 --> 00:34:03,416
I'm sorry for that but
with his confession
740
00:34:03,458 --> 00:34:06,502
we avoid going to trial. Never
know what a jury's gonna do.
741
00:34:06,544 --> 00:34:09,047
He's embarrassed about what
charlene Darcy knows about him.
742
00:34:09,088 --> 00:34:11,591
I guarantee you he
would give up his allocution
743
00:34:11,632 --> 00:34:12,884
rather than face her.
744
00:34:12,925 --> 00:34:15,803
You can't risk nine convictions
to find out if you're right.
745
00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:18,389
We'll get his confession without
letting him make a speech.
746
00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:21,392
Gimme one more chance with
Donna before we finalize the plea.
747
00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:23,186
What's it that you
think she knows?
748
00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,104
A lot. She may not
realize how much.
749
00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:27,648
She lived with him the years
he committed these crimes.
750
00:34:27,690 --> 00:34:30,860
If we get her talking, who
knows what she leads us to.
751
00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:33,654
We may finally
find Kale's trophies.
752
00:34:33,696 --> 00:34:36,324
I want Kale's signed plea
agreement on my desk
753
00:34:36,365 --> 00:34:37,492
by 5 o'clock tomorrow.
754
00:34:37,533 --> 00:34:40,328
Now, if you can
find a way to get that
755
00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:42,413
without granting him
his little speech, great.
756
00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:45,875
If not, you give
him what he wants.
757
00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:53,049
You're relentless,
you know that?
758
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:54,842
Your father confessed.
759
00:34:54,884 --> 00:34:57,512
You can't pretend anymore
that it didn't happen.
760
00:34:57,553 --> 00:35:01,265
He's gonna tell a judge exactly
what he did to those women.
761
00:35:01,307 --> 00:35:03,810
What do you want from me?
762
00:35:03,851 --> 00:35:04,977
Donna..
763
00:35:05,019 --> 00:35:07,271
Your father wants the attention.
764
00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:10,858
He wants to enjoy killing
those women all over again
765
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,194
at the expense
of their families.
766
00:35:13,236 --> 00:35:16,531
You of all people should
know how painful that would be.
767
00:35:16,572 --> 00:35:18,991
- He's a freak.
- But you're not.
768
00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:25,248
And feeling responsible for
what he did is ruining your life.
769
00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:27,750
I don't get it.
770
00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:29,919
Why are you here?
771
00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:32,713
Why do you care about me?
772
00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:35,424
Because of what he did to you.
773
00:35:35,466 --> 00:35:38,553
He's destroyed your life too.
774
00:35:43,724 --> 00:35:47,353
I always thought
my dad was lonely.
775
00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:50,439
When I was about..
776
00:35:50,481 --> 00:35:53,359
Twelve, my best
friend and I found
777
00:35:53,401 --> 00:35:58,406
a lady's scarf and driver's
license in my dad's closet.
778
00:35:58,447 --> 00:35:59,866
The one you showed me.
779
00:35:59,907 --> 00:36:04,495
With the blonde hair
and the pretty smile.
780
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:08,666
I had seen my dad talking
to her a couple times
781
00:36:08,708 --> 00:36:11,294
in the grocery store.
782
00:36:11,335 --> 00:36:13,588
And um..
783
00:36:13,629 --> 00:36:15,423
I told my friend..
784
00:36:15,464 --> 00:36:18,384
That they were secretly in love.
785
00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:21,470
And that soon..
786
00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:25,099
I would have a new mom.
787
00:36:25,141 --> 00:36:26,434
Couple weeks later
788
00:36:26,475 --> 00:36:30,730
an article in the
newspaper said that..
789
00:36:30,771 --> 00:36:35,610
The woman was dead.
790
00:36:35,651 --> 00:36:37,904
And that..
791
00:36:39,447 --> 00:36:41,616
That her, her killer
had sent a copy
792
00:36:41,657 --> 00:36:45,745
of her driver's
license to the police.
793
00:36:45,786 --> 00:36:48,372
Oh, I'm so sorry.
794
00:36:48,414 --> 00:36:49,457
I don't know what..
795
00:36:49,498 --> 00:36:53,794
What to tell you. I don't
know how to help you.
796
00:36:53,836 --> 00:36:57,673
We can't find the things
he took from his victims.
797
00:36:58,341 --> 00:36:59,592
Maybe he got rid of 'em.
798
00:36:59,634 --> 00:37:01,844
(Annabeth) 'Well, we
think he's still got them.'
799
00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:06,641
serial killers tend to
hang on to their trophies.
800
00:37:07,850 --> 00:37:10,937
- Did you search the house?
- Top to bottom.
801
00:37:10,978 --> 00:37:13,940
Is there someplace else he
may have hidden them, Donna?
802
00:37:13,981 --> 00:37:17,401
Maybe, um... A friend's
house or a relative's?
803
00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:20,029
He hates his relatives.
804
00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:21,822
No friends.
805
00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:25,701
Spent all his time at home
working on his weird hobbies.
806
00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:27,453
The, um..
807
00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:30,373
- Needlepoint? Birdhouses?
- Yeah.
808
00:37:30,414 --> 00:37:33,626
He's obsessed with those things.
809
00:37:33,668 --> 00:37:36,420
His knick-knacks.
810
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:40,383
Donna said her father was
obsessed with his hobbies.
811
00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:42,468
Remember the notations
in the work records?
812
00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:44,428
The photocopies
in the scrapbooks?
813
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:47,848
I think Kale's trophies
are somewhere right here.
814
00:37:47,890 --> 00:37:49,558
In plain sight.
815
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,560
Plain sight, huh?
816
00:37:51,602 --> 00:37:53,604
Where would that be?
817
00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:55,856
[Dramatic music]
818
00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:41,402
Guys, look at
this. Look at this.
819
00:38:43,070 --> 00:38:45,948
Kale's hobby.
820
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:50,369
He turned his victims'
clothing into a memory quilt.
821
00:38:52,997 --> 00:38:55,750
[Intense music]
822
00:39:19,899 --> 00:39:21,359
It's a pocket.
823
00:39:43,172 --> 00:39:46,258
I said I would speak for
an unlimited amount of time
824
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:51,097
at the allocution.
It's not in here.
825
00:39:51,138 --> 00:39:53,933
That's because it's
not gonna happen.
826
00:39:55,351 --> 00:39:57,311
Then I rescind my offer.
827
00:39:57,353 --> 00:40:01,232
We're being generous, Mr. Kale,
considering the alternative.
828
00:40:01,273 --> 00:40:03,359
The alternative
is I don't confess.
829
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:05,694
The alternative is we
humiliate you for months
830
00:40:05,736 --> 00:40:07,238
in court and in the press.
831
00:40:07,279 --> 00:40:10,616
Leak compromising photos
to the tabloids and then a jury..
832
00:40:10,658 --> 00:40:14,161
Gives you the death penalty.
833
00:40:14,203 --> 00:40:16,622
I'm afraid you've lost me.
834
00:40:22,711 --> 00:40:25,589
We found your quilt.
835
00:40:28,008 --> 00:40:31,137
Your trophy photos..
836
00:40:32,263 --> 00:40:35,182
Your dirty little pictures..
837
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,147
You don't even measure
up to the twisted killer
838
00:40:41,188 --> 00:40:42,565
you pretended to be.
839
00:40:42,606 --> 00:40:44,775
The professor.
840
00:40:45,651 --> 00:40:48,571
You're just a pervert.
841
00:40:48,612 --> 00:40:50,156
Pathetic, little pervert.
842
00:40:50,197 --> 00:40:52,283
I should be allowed
to address the court.
843
00:40:52,324 --> 00:40:54,827
No allocution, no
press, no gallery.
844
00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:57,371
Just an empty courtroom.
845
00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,707
What do you mean?
846
00:40:59,748 --> 00:41:03,002
The families won't be there?
847
00:41:03,043 --> 00:41:05,463
We're protecting the
families from you, Mr. Kale.
848
00:41:05,504 --> 00:41:09,258
They'll have their own press
conference after you're gone.
849
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:10,759
(Jeffrey) 'It's a
public proceeding.'
850
00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:12,219
- you can't close it.
- Sue us.
851
00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:14,680
By the time you obtain
a temporary injunction..
852
00:41:14,722 --> 00:41:17,892
He'll be on the bus
to the penitentiary.
853
00:41:24,398 --> 00:41:26,042
(Judge Jenkins) 'You're
charged with murder'
854
00:41:26,066 --> 00:41:27,610
'a class a felony, in count 7?'
855
00:41:27,651 --> 00:41:30,988
- yes, your honor.
- 'How'd you plead to count 7?'
856
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:32,323
guilty, your honor.
857
00:41:32,364 --> 00:41:35,784
In count eight, on or about
the 23rd day of April, 1997
858
00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:37,870
in the county of
Marion, state of Indiana
859
00:41:37,912 --> 00:41:40,915
'it is claimed you did
unlawfully kill a human being'
860
00:41:40,956 --> 00:41:42,041
'Anne blackwood'
861
00:41:42,082 --> 00:41:44,502
'knowingly, maliciously,
willfully, deliberately.'
862
00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,188
'you understand you're
charged with murder'
863
00:41:46,212 --> 00:41:47,838
'a class a felony,
in count eight?'
864
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,591
- yes, your honor.
- 'How'd you plead to count 8?
865
00:41:50,633 --> 00:41:51,717
Guilty, your honor.
866
00:41:51,759 --> 00:41:54,512
In count 9, on the 31st
day of October, 2006
867
00:41:54,553 --> 00:41:56,388
in the county of
Marion, state of Indiana
868
00:41:56,430 --> 00:41:59,433
it is claimed you did
unlawfully kill a human being
869
00:41:59,475 --> 00:42:00,559
Elizabeth garner
870
00:42:00,601 --> 00:42:03,521
'knowingly, maliciously,
willfully, deliberately.'
871
00:42:03,562 --> 00:42:05,564
do you understand
you're charged with murder
872
00:42:05,606 --> 00:42:07,233
a class a felony, in count 9?
873
00:42:07,274 --> 00:42:11,445
- 'Yes, your honor.'
- 'How'd you plead to count 9?'
874
00:42:13,614 --> 00:42:15,824
guilty, your honor.
875
00:42:24,833 --> 00:42:27,211
Nice job, counselor.
876
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:28,837
You too.
877
00:42:41,850 --> 00:42:44,436
[Sighs] I guess just
go ahead and feed her.
878
00:42:44,478 --> 00:42:47,273
I'll be home by seven
to put her to bed.
879
00:42:47,314 --> 00:42:48,774
I've one more meeting.
880
00:42:48,816 --> 00:42:50,901
Okay, thanks.
881
00:42:50,943 --> 00:42:52,861
- Hi, Donna.
- Miss chase.
882
00:42:52,903 --> 00:42:54,196
This is my friend, Tim.
883
00:42:54,238 --> 00:42:55,948
- Nice to meet you.
- Hi, Tim.
884
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:57,783
I needed some moral support.
885
00:42:57,825 --> 00:42:59,785
I understand.
886
00:42:59,827 --> 00:43:02,204
Come on.
887
00:43:02,246 --> 00:43:04,582
I wanted to, um
888
00:43:04,623 --> 00:43:08,377
thank you for, you know..
889
00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:10,045
Reaching out to me.
890
00:43:10,087 --> 00:43:11,380
Of course.
891
00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:14,508
The press conference for
the families went really well.
892
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:17,303
I think everybody's relieved.
893
00:43:17,344 --> 00:43:19,763
I hope they know how sorry I am.
894
00:43:19,805 --> 00:43:22,683
Donna, nobody blames you, okay?
895
00:43:22,725 --> 00:43:24,518
You need to know that.
896
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,646
And you need to believe it too.
897
00:43:27,688 --> 00:43:30,232
Here we are.
898
00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:39,950
Hi, Donna.
899
00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:43,704
Mr. Garner.
900
00:43:43,746 --> 00:43:46,206
Thanks for coming.
901
00:43:46,248 --> 00:43:48,167
I'm, uh..
902
00:43:48,208 --> 00:43:50,586
Glad to see you.
903
00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:52,171
You are?
904
00:43:56,634 --> 00:43:59,428
[Instrumental music]
905
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:23,994
(Female narrator) Stay tuned
for scenes from our next episode.
906
00:44:28,707 --> 00:44:31,126
[Theme music]
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