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Yo, hello, trick-or-treat! 14 00:01:06,649 --> 00:01:08,985 [Dramatic music] 15 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:22,165 [Music continues] 16 00:01:23,958 --> 00:01:25,085 Trick-or-treat. 17 00:01:25,126 --> 00:01:27,545 [Police siren wailing] 18 00:01:36,262 --> 00:01:38,640 [Dramatic music] 19 00:01:41,392 --> 00:01:42,227 Hey! 20 00:01:42,268 --> 00:01:44,104 [Music continues] 21 00:01:46,564 --> 00:01:49,067 [Tires screeching] 22 00:01:53,279 --> 00:01:55,698 [Dramatic music] 23 00:01:59,828 --> 00:02:01,246 I'm told we have a suspect 24 00:02:01,287 --> 00:02:03,498 in the Liz garner murder Halloween night. 25 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:05,834 Donna Kale... Picked up this morning. 26 00:02:05,875 --> 00:02:08,128 - You have your doubts? - Have you seen the photos? 27 00:02:08,169 --> 00:02:11,339 'It takes a lot of muscles to strangle somebody like that.' 28 00:02:11,381 --> 00:02:13,007 she's a meth head. 29 00:02:13,049 --> 00:02:15,093 Strength of ten men when they're high. 30 00:02:15,135 --> 00:02:16,886 Plus, she was caught trying to burn 31 00:02:16,928 --> 00:02:18,471 the victim's blouse and pocketbook. 32 00:02:18,513 --> 00:02:19,556 She gave her statement? 33 00:02:19,597 --> 00:02:21,683 She said she found the items in a park 34 00:02:21,724 --> 00:02:24,978 morning after the murder. Then she asked for a lawyer 35 00:02:25,019 --> 00:02:26,020 then she clammed up. 36 00:02:26,062 --> 00:02:28,648 Public defender's on his way. 37 00:02:28,690 --> 00:02:29,899 - Motive? - Drug robbery. 38 00:02:29,941 --> 00:02:32,819 Husband said the wife had 300 bucks in her pocketbook. 39 00:02:32,861 --> 00:02:34,070 You find the money? 40 00:02:34,112 --> 00:02:36,781 She was smoking the last of it when we arrested her. 41 00:02:36,823 --> 00:02:39,784 Why take the victim's blouse? The rape kit came up clean. 42 00:02:39,826 --> 00:02:42,370 Maybe she was making it look like a sex crime. 43 00:02:42,412 --> 00:02:44,205 Neighbors called the cops about some kids 44 00:02:44,247 --> 00:02:45,766 who were fooling on the garner property. 45 00:02:45,790 --> 00:02:49,043 - Could've scared her off. - You think a woman did this? 46 00:02:49,085 --> 00:02:50,545 It happens. 47 00:02:50,587 --> 00:02:51,921 And especially with meth. 48 00:02:51,963 --> 00:02:53,590 Look, this girl's got quite a record. 49 00:02:53,631 --> 00:02:56,759 Started as a juvenile. She's got drug arrest up the wazoo. 50 00:02:56,801 --> 00:02:58,553 Alright, if her lawyer's on the way 51 00:02:58,595 --> 00:03:00,638 we'll take it from here, detective. Thanks. 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,932 Knock yourselves out. 53 00:03:02,974 --> 00:03:04,100 Felony murder. 54 00:03:04,142 --> 00:03:06,162 'Come on, annabeth. It's a misdemeanor arson charge.' 55 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:08,438 she deliberately destroyed evidence from a homicide. 56 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:10,440 She found the blouse and pocketbook, okay? 57 00:03:10,481 --> 00:03:13,484 Then she freaked out and tried to get rid of them. 58 00:03:13,526 --> 00:03:16,905 Three months' probation, drug rehab. 59 00:03:16,946 --> 00:03:19,324 Suppose you didn't kill Mrs. Garner 60 00:03:19,365 --> 00:03:20,950 just being there when it happened 61 00:03:20,992 --> 00:03:22,619 makes you guilty of felony murder. 62 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:24,996 'That's 45 years in prison.' 63 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:28,499 her one year old was in the room when she was murdered. 64 00:03:28,541 --> 00:03:29,584 How did that feel? 65 00:03:29,626 --> 00:03:32,128 Until you tell us what you know about this 66 00:03:32,170 --> 00:03:33,338 you're staying in jail. 67 00:03:33,379 --> 00:03:34,672 You can't hold her indefinitely. 68 00:03:34,714 --> 00:03:36,758 Evidence tampering material witness 69 00:03:36,799 --> 00:03:40,053 accomplice and a felony murder. Watch me. 70 00:03:40,094 --> 00:03:41,721 She participated in the crime 71 00:03:41,763 --> 00:03:43,514 or she's protecting somebody who did. 72 00:03:43,556 --> 00:03:45,225 You're get her talkin' about that 73 00:03:45,266 --> 00:03:48,353 we can discuss a deal. 74 00:03:48,394 --> 00:03:50,521 I'm giving you a chance. 75 00:03:50,563 --> 00:03:52,815 Don't blow it. 76 00:03:52,857 --> 00:03:54,984 Based on the size and depth of the marks 77 00:03:55,026 --> 00:03:57,904 and bruises on her neck, the m.E. Says Mrs. Garner 78 00:03:57,946 --> 00:03:59,822 was almost certainly strangled by a man. 79 00:03:59,864 --> 00:04:02,283 A big man, judging by the size of his hands. 80 00:04:02,325 --> 00:04:05,161 If Donna Kale was his accomplice it's still felony murder. 81 00:04:05,203 --> 00:04:07,830 Police think it started as a drug related robbery. 82 00:04:07,872 --> 00:04:09,165 But you're not buying it? 83 00:04:09,207 --> 00:04:11,084 According to the m.E., the colorations 84 00:04:11,125 --> 00:04:13,962 of the bruises indicate garner was strangled 85 00:04:14,003 --> 00:04:15,505 allowed to revive.. 86 00:04:15,546 --> 00:04:16,714 Then strangled again. 87 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:20,009 - Sounds like torture. - Hm.. 88 00:04:20,051 --> 00:04:21,803 Here's another reason. 89 00:04:21,844 --> 00:04:25,848 It's 20 miles from Donna Kale's house to Liz garner's. 90 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:28,434 How many junkies travel half a way across town 91 00:04:28,476 --> 00:04:30,770 to Rob someone they've never met? 92 00:04:30,812 --> 00:04:34,190 Show her mug shot to Liz garner's husband. 93 00:04:34,232 --> 00:04:38,069 Donna Kale? That's who you arrested for killing my wife? 94 00:04:38,111 --> 00:04:39,237 You know her? 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,323 Yeah, she grew up down the street. I've known her forever. 96 00:04:42,365 --> 00:04:43,616 This is gene Kale's daughter. 97 00:04:43,658 --> 00:04:45,702 She ever threaten you? Or your wife? 98 00:04:45,743 --> 00:04:48,496 - Donna? No. - She is an addict. 99 00:04:48,538 --> 00:04:52,125 I never thought she was dangerous. She's.. 100 00:04:52,166 --> 00:04:54,836 She's just sad. She's really, uh.. 101 00:04:54,877 --> 00:04:56,212 Screwed up, you know. She's.. 102 00:04:56,254 --> 00:04:58,256 You sure she's the one who did this? 103 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:00,591 At the very least we think she's involved. 104 00:05:00,633 --> 00:05:02,302 Meth can make people mean. 105 00:05:02,343 --> 00:05:06,222 Well, I've never seen that side of her. 106 00:05:06,264 --> 00:05:11,019 I did see her, though, the day after Liz was.. 107 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:12,312 The day after.. 108 00:05:12,353 --> 00:05:14,314 [Intense music] 109 00:05:14,355 --> 00:05:16,482 It's okay. Take your time. 110 00:05:16,524 --> 00:05:17,942 [Music continues] 111 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:29,203 I was, uh.. 112 00:05:29,245 --> 00:05:30,747 Coming back from the funeral home 113 00:05:30,788 --> 00:05:33,583 and her dad was taking down his Halloween decorations 114 00:05:33,624 --> 00:05:36,210 and she was out front talking to him. 115 00:05:36,252 --> 00:05:38,963 I remember thinking.. 116 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:40,965 You know, how ordinary it all was.. 117 00:05:41,007 --> 00:05:43,634 I'm about to Bury my wife and.. 118 00:05:43,676 --> 00:05:46,679 Life goes on. Just.. 119 00:05:48,306 --> 00:05:50,350 Donna have a boyfriend? 120 00:05:50,391 --> 00:05:53,394 There was this guy she used to hang around with sometimes. 121 00:05:53,436 --> 00:05:55,772 - You know, he made me nervous. - Druggie? 122 00:05:55,813 --> 00:05:57,982 Yeah. It was written all over him. 123 00:05:58,024 --> 00:06:02,987 - Mrs. Kale? - She died when Donna was born. 124 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:06,574 And gene raised her on his own. 125 00:06:07,492 --> 00:06:10,828 Donna's not involved in this. I know my daughter. 126 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:13,581 With all due respect, sir, your daughter's a junkie.. 127 00:06:13,623 --> 00:06:14,582 A drug addict. 128 00:06:14,624 --> 00:06:16,292 I assume you checked her record. 129 00:06:16,334 --> 00:06:18,294 It's all possessions, small amounts. 130 00:06:18,336 --> 00:06:22,131 She doesn't deal and she doesn't steal to support her habit. 131 00:06:22,173 --> 00:06:23,883 She doesn't work either. 132 00:06:23,925 --> 00:06:25,718 [Sighs] 133 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,889 I give her money... Sometimes. 134 00:06:29,931 --> 00:06:32,517 Look, I know it's wrong.. 135 00:06:32,558 --> 00:06:34,102 But she comes by.. 136 00:06:34,143 --> 00:06:36,896 Says it's for clothes or to pay bills. 137 00:06:36,938 --> 00:06:40,108 I know what it's for, but.. 138 00:06:40,149 --> 00:06:41,526 She's my kid. 139 00:06:41,567 --> 00:06:43,486 She's got a problem. 140 00:06:43,528 --> 00:06:45,863 She'd never hurt anybody. 141 00:06:45,905 --> 00:06:48,366 What about her boyfriend? 142 00:06:48,408 --> 00:06:50,576 They broke up last year. 143 00:06:50,618 --> 00:06:53,871 I met him a few times. Tim something. 144 00:06:53,913 --> 00:06:57,500 Veeter, Tim veeter. 145 00:06:57,542 --> 00:06:59,752 Are you sure about the time, Tim? 146 00:06:59,794 --> 00:07:01,087 It was Halloween night, man. 147 00:07:01,129 --> 00:07:04,257 You didn't do a little trick-or-treating? 148 00:07:04,298 --> 00:07:05,633 You think he's involved? 149 00:07:05,675 --> 00:07:08,052 He's got an alibi for the time of the murder. 150 00:07:08,094 --> 00:07:11,305 - Narcotics anonymous meeting. - Why'd you bring him down? 151 00:07:11,347 --> 00:07:14,183 'Cause when we asked him about Donna, he stopped talking. 152 00:07:14,225 --> 00:07:15,393 - Lawyered up? - Sponsored up. 153 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:17,437 Said he couldn't talk to us about it 154 00:07:17,478 --> 00:07:19,814 unless we got his n.A. Sponsor down here. 155 00:07:19,856 --> 00:07:23,734 Sponsored up? That's a new one. 156 00:07:23,776 --> 00:07:25,111 [Knock on the door] 157 00:07:25,153 --> 00:07:26,863 Could be him now. 158 00:07:26,904 --> 00:07:28,781 I hope so. 159 00:07:28,823 --> 00:07:31,200 Why, you got someplace else to be? 160 00:07:32,869 --> 00:07:34,829 Mark shell. 161 00:07:34,871 --> 00:07:37,415 Halloween night, Mark. 162 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:39,208 I was with Tim at St. Stan's 163 00:07:39,250 --> 00:07:45,298 from about a quarter of 8:00 to 9:30, 9:45. 164 00:07:45,339 --> 00:07:48,342 We'll need the names of everybody at that meetin'. 165 00:07:49,802 --> 00:07:55,516 So... you're ready to talk about Donna Kale now? 166 00:07:55,558 --> 00:07:58,394 I saw her last night... At an n.A. Meeting. 167 00:07:58,436 --> 00:08:02,231 She seemed like she needed it. She was barely hanging on. 168 00:08:02,273 --> 00:08:04,859 And you know why, so tell me. 169 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:09,780 [Intense music] 170 00:08:09,822 --> 00:08:12,950 This was a vicious homicide. 171 00:08:12,992 --> 00:08:15,411 Mother of two young kids. 172 00:08:16,037 --> 00:08:17,830 Now is the time to share. 173 00:08:17,872 --> 00:08:19,874 Donna told me this in confidence. 174 00:08:19,916 --> 00:08:21,709 It's supposed to be sacred what's said 175 00:08:21,751 --> 00:08:23,169 at those meetings to each other. 176 00:08:23,211 --> 00:08:26,506 If it helps get Donna out of jail, Tim 177 00:08:26,547 --> 00:08:29,717 I think it's alright. 178 00:08:31,052 --> 00:08:32,762 She said.. 179 00:08:32,803 --> 00:08:36,307 "I think my father killed somebody last night 180 00:08:36,349 --> 00:08:37,350 'on Halloween."' 181 00:08:37,391 --> 00:08:40,353 - 'she say who?' - That woman in the news. 182 00:08:40,394 --> 00:08:42,063 Liz garner? 183 00:08:42,104 --> 00:08:43,981 [Dramatic music] 184 00:08:55,243 --> 00:08:56,744 Donna Kale just flat out denies 185 00:08:56,786 --> 00:08:59,789 she ever told the ex-boyfriend her father killed Liz garner. 186 00:08:59,830 --> 00:09:02,333 Without corroboration, Mr. Veeter's statement is worthless. 187 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:03,810 We should search Kale's house anyway. 188 00:09:03,834 --> 00:09:06,462 We know Donna was there the day after the murder. 189 00:09:06,504 --> 00:09:08,756 If either one's involved we need to move fast. 190 00:09:08,798 --> 00:09:10,508 The ex-boyfriend's statement is hearsay. 191 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:14,011 To use it to get a search warrant we need to corroborate. 192 00:09:14,053 --> 00:09:15,638 It's not the basis for the warrant. 193 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:18,766 Maybe we put into the affidavit to persuade a friendly judge. 194 00:09:18,808 --> 00:09:21,852 It's risky. The trial judge could invalidate the warrant 195 00:09:21,894 --> 00:09:23,479 and we'd lose any evidence we found. 196 00:09:23,521 --> 00:09:26,315 We'll lose that evidence anyway if Kale destroys it. 197 00:09:26,357 --> 00:09:27,567 Keep the affidavit simple. 198 00:09:27,608 --> 00:09:29,402 Basically, veeter's statement is corroborated 199 00:09:29,443 --> 00:09:32,071 by Donna Kale's actions the day after she visited 200 00:09:32,113 --> 00:09:33,155 'her father's house.' 201 00:09:33,197 --> 00:09:34,615 burning the blouse and pocketbook. 202 00:09:34,657 --> 00:09:37,827 What about Donna Kale? We either charge her or let her go. 203 00:09:37,868 --> 00:09:40,997 If her father is the killer, we're gonna need her testimony. 204 00:09:41,038 --> 00:09:42,832 And if she's his accomplice, she's still 205 00:09:42,873 --> 00:09:44,750 on the hook for felony murder. 206 00:09:44,792 --> 00:09:47,044 Charge her with evidence tampering for now. 207 00:09:47,086 --> 00:09:49,422 And ask the judge to set a stiff bail. 208 00:09:49,463 --> 00:09:51,591 We'll swear out the search warrant. 209 00:09:51,632 --> 00:09:53,217 [Dramatic music] 210 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,599 Will I be able to attend my deacons' meeting this afternoon? 211 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,601 I wouldn't count on making that meeting, brother. 212 00:10:01,642 --> 00:10:03,728 'It's important. I'm on the facilities committee.' 213 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:06,188 rectory needs a new roof. 214 00:10:06,814 --> 00:10:08,149 Techs found a trace of blood 215 00:10:08,190 --> 00:10:10,901 under the lid of the washing machine. 216 00:10:10,943 --> 00:10:15,072 I build birdhouses. Nicked myself on a band saw. 217 00:10:15,114 --> 00:10:17,283 You ought to be more careful, Mr. Kale. 218 00:10:17,325 --> 00:10:19,160 With luminol we found more blood 219 00:10:19,201 --> 00:10:20,953 smeared on the front of the washer. 220 00:10:20,995 --> 00:10:23,456 - Somebody tried to wipe it up. - Like I said... 221 00:10:23,497 --> 00:10:24,707 If it's yours, no problems. 222 00:10:24,749 --> 00:10:27,710 But if it's Liz garner's, on the other hand.. 223 00:10:27,752 --> 00:10:29,045 [Dramatic music] 224 00:10:29,712 --> 00:10:32,465 Where'd you get these? 225 00:10:33,549 --> 00:10:35,009 Huh? 226 00:10:35,718 --> 00:10:36,969 Where? 227 00:10:37,011 --> 00:10:38,137 Ed! 228 00:10:39,055 --> 00:10:41,682 Turn around. You're under arrest. 229 00:10:41,724 --> 00:10:44,602 Mr. Kale, you have the right to remain silent. 230 00:10:44,644 --> 00:10:47,271 Anything you say may be used in a court of law. 231 00:10:47,313 --> 00:10:50,524 - If you can't afford attorney... - I can afford an attorney. 232 00:10:50,566 --> 00:10:53,194 Excellent. The system works. 233 00:10:53,235 --> 00:10:55,821 [Dramatic music] 234 00:10:56,739 --> 00:10:58,407 Tear this place apart. 235 00:10:58,449 --> 00:11:00,993 [Music continues] 236 00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:10,127 Recognize any of these women? 237 00:11:10,169 --> 00:11:12,672 'Between '84 and '97, a serial killer here' 238 00:11:12,713 --> 00:11:16,634 in Indianapolis, strangled and suffocated eight women. 239 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:17,760 He killed his eighth 240 00:11:17,802 --> 00:11:20,346 and as far as we know last, nine years ago. 241 00:11:20,388 --> 00:11:22,223 Liz garner was strangled and suffocated. 242 00:11:22,264 --> 00:11:23,599 (Ed) 'Yes, she was.' 243 00:11:23,641 --> 00:11:26,227 (annabeth) 'These are photocopies of the driver's licenses' 244 00:11:26,268 --> 00:11:27,728 'of all the women he killed.' 245 00:11:27,770 --> 00:11:30,773 just sitting on the bookshelf where anybody could find them. 246 00:11:30,815 --> 00:11:32,650 Talk about brazen. 247 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:35,236 (Ed) 'Anne blackwood was the last known.' 248 00:11:35,277 --> 00:11:36,404 1997. I caught the case. 249 00:11:36,445 --> 00:11:39,031 I remember the blackwood murder, I was in law school. 250 00:11:39,073 --> 00:11:41,075 The killer had a name for himself, right? 251 00:11:41,117 --> 00:11:44,036 The professor, that's the name he used to sign the letters 252 00:11:44,078 --> 00:11:45,996 he sent to the newspapers and the police. 253 00:11:46,038 --> 00:11:48,290 He would send copies of the victim's driver's license 254 00:11:48,332 --> 00:11:50,209 'and a piece of fabric from her clothing.' 255 00:11:50,251 --> 00:11:54,046 if it's the same mo as garner strangled and suffocated.. 256 00:11:54,088 --> 00:11:57,425 Why didn't I see it right off? Wasn't exactly the same. 257 00:11:57,466 --> 00:12:00,845 And the garner crime scene was nothing like the professor's. 258 00:12:00,886 --> 00:12:03,264 He was probably interrupted before he could finish. 259 00:12:03,305 --> 00:12:06,058 The professor's crime scene was always clean, right? No DNA. 260 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:10,187 Pristine. Never left any hair, skin, blood or fingerprints. 261 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:11,564 Nothing. 262 00:12:11,605 --> 00:12:13,190 'Victim's body washed..' 263 00:12:13,232 --> 00:12:14,817 and naked on a clean, white sheet. 264 00:12:14,859 --> 00:12:17,611 Another sheet laid over like you'd see in a morgue. 265 00:12:17,653 --> 00:12:18,755 Something I don't understand. 266 00:12:18,779 --> 00:12:19,864 It's got all the earmarks 267 00:12:19,905 --> 00:12:22,074 of a sex crime but he didn't touch them. 268 00:12:22,116 --> 00:12:23,993 In his letters he claimed to be celibate. 269 00:12:24,034 --> 00:12:26,954 Insisted the killings were about science, not sex. 270 00:12:26,996 --> 00:12:29,874 - What do you mean, science? - The science of death. 271 00:12:29,915 --> 00:12:33,377 His letters said he was doing research for a book. 272 00:12:33,419 --> 00:12:36,797 You really think Kale is the professor? 273 00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:40,885 I'm not saying these photocopies get you a conviction.. 274 00:12:40,926 --> 00:12:43,429 But they convince me. 275 00:12:43,471 --> 00:12:46,223 Not me. Not that I wouldn't love convicting 276 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:48,225 a famous serial killer but.. 277 00:12:48,267 --> 00:12:50,436 We're not gonna do it with photocopies. 278 00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:51,562 Agreed. 279 00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:54,482 No, we need the actual drivers' licenses, the victims' clothing. 280 00:12:54,523 --> 00:12:55,649 They're not in Kale's house. 281 00:12:55,691 --> 00:12:57,818 The cops and crime techs tore it apart. 282 00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:58,962 Alright, keep working on it. 283 00:12:58,986 --> 00:13:00,488 In the meantime, the blood evidence 284 00:13:00,529 --> 00:13:03,365 from Kale's basement came back as a match for Liz garner. 285 00:13:03,407 --> 00:13:05,659 - The m.E. Confirmed it today. - 'That's enough.' 286 00:13:05,701 --> 00:13:07,119 even if Kale is the professor 287 00:13:07,161 --> 00:13:08,788 we push ahead with the garner murder. 288 00:13:08,829 --> 00:13:10,664 At least there, we have something concrete. 289 00:13:10,706 --> 00:13:12,374 Guaranteed Kale's defense attorney 290 00:13:12,416 --> 00:13:13,459 will challenge the search. 291 00:13:13,501 --> 00:13:16,170 The warrant was a little iffy. 292 00:13:16,212 --> 00:13:17,630 Talk to the daughter again. 293 00:13:17,671 --> 00:13:19,048 If she'll testify where she found 294 00:13:19,089 --> 00:13:20,734 the blouse and the pocketbook and corroborate 295 00:13:20,758 --> 00:13:23,469 what she told her ex-boyfriend, we can shore up our case. 296 00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:26,639 Maybe if Donna Kale knows her father is a serial killer 297 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:28,933 she'll stop protecting him. 298 00:13:33,729 --> 00:13:36,023 What we discuss today is confidential. 299 00:13:36,065 --> 00:13:38,067 - I need your word. - You have mine. 300 00:13:38,108 --> 00:13:40,152 I can't speak for her, of course. 301 00:13:40,194 --> 00:13:42,029 She'll keep the secret. 302 00:13:42,071 --> 00:13:43,364 How do you know that? 303 00:13:43,405 --> 00:13:46,116 Because it's her secret too. 304 00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:50,120 You told Tim your father killed Liz garner. 305 00:13:50,162 --> 00:13:52,915 No. I didn't-i didn't tell him that. 306 00:13:52,957 --> 00:13:54,583 We found her blood in his basement. 307 00:13:54,625 --> 00:13:57,586 We found evidence in his home linking him to other women 308 00:13:57,628 --> 00:14:00,965 other murders, Donna, eight of them. 309 00:14:01,006 --> 00:14:03,092 [Dramatic music] 310 00:14:04,468 --> 00:14:06,220 'Maggie Kelly.' 311 00:14:06,262 --> 00:14:09,723 your father killed her in 1984. You were six. 312 00:14:09,765 --> 00:14:12,059 He took her striped sweater as a memento. 313 00:14:12,101 --> 00:14:14,270 He's a serial killer? 314 00:14:14,311 --> 00:14:18,148 - Jeffrey, he's the professor. - Professor? You're kidding. 315 00:14:18,190 --> 00:14:20,442 No, unh-unh. It's not possible. 316 00:14:20,484 --> 00:14:22,194 It's not possible? 317 00:14:22,236 --> 00:14:23,279 Of course it is. 318 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:28,492 'Rebecca bartlett, 29. Your father killed her in 1991.' 319 00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:31,495 'he took her green print scarf to remember her by.' 320 00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:32,746 'you were 12.' 321 00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:36,500 these women have nothing to do with me or my father! 322 00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:39,879 Anne blackwood, 26. He killed her in 1997. 323 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,923 You were 19. He took her purple baseball Jersey. 324 00:14:42,965 --> 00:14:46,260 - Donna, please.. - Leave me alone! 325 00:14:46,719 --> 00:14:48,345 [Sighs] 326 00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:50,306 We're charging your father tomorrow 327 00:14:50,347 --> 00:14:53,309 in the murder of Elizabeth garner. 328 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:54,768 You knew Mrs. Garner.. 329 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:58,022 And her family. You were neighbors. 330 00:14:58,063 --> 00:15:01,066 Donna, ask yourself. 331 00:15:01,108 --> 00:15:02,526 What are you doing? 332 00:15:02,568 --> 00:15:04,445 Why are you protecting him? 333 00:15:04,486 --> 00:15:07,072 [Instrumental music] 334 00:15:13,370 --> 00:15:14,872 [Instrumental music] 335 00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:17,541 One count of murder, Mr. Kale. How do you plead? 336 00:15:17,583 --> 00:15:19,418 - Not guilty, your honor. - Bail? 337 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:21,211 On the matter of bail, your honor 338 00:15:21,253 --> 00:15:23,255 the evidence in this case is extremely weak 339 00:15:23,297 --> 00:15:25,424 not merely circumstantial, it's inferential. 340 00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:26,675 It's forensic, your honor. 341 00:15:26,717 --> 00:15:29,053 The victim's blood was found in the defendant's home. 342 00:15:29,094 --> 00:15:31,263 Save the back-and-forth for trial, counselors. 343 00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:33,349 Defendant is remanded. 344 00:15:33,390 --> 00:15:36,518 I'll see you this afternoon. 345 00:15:37,811 --> 00:15:38,896 Some show. 346 00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:41,982 Thought you guys had a big-time serial killer on your hands. 347 00:15:42,024 --> 00:15:44,360 - Where'd you hear that? - Word gets around. 348 00:15:44,401 --> 00:15:46,254 - Cops talk, lawyers talk. - We're investigating. 349 00:15:46,278 --> 00:15:48,781 In the meantime, we have him dead to rights 350 00:15:48,822 --> 00:15:50,449 on the murder of Liz garner. 351 00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:53,160 Maybe. Maybe not. 352 00:15:53,202 --> 00:15:55,913 Motion to suppress the blood evidence from the Kale house. 353 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:58,624 - Dream on. - Have a nice day. 354 00:16:00,793 --> 00:16:03,879 Well, we knew this motion was coming. 355 00:16:03,921 --> 00:16:06,173 I wish we could get Donna Kale to testify. 356 00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:08,550 I'm not sure keeping her locked up is gonna work. 357 00:16:08,592 --> 00:16:11,762 She's holding on to her secret like she's a drowning woman 358 00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:13,097 and it's a life preserver. 359 00:16:13,138 --> 00:16:15,391 Denial. Don't talk about it, pretend it didn't happen. 360 00:16:15,432 --> 00:16:18,352 - Maybe it'll all go away. - No wonder she takes drugs. 361 00:16:18,394 --> 00:16:20,980 She reacted to the pictures of the dead women like 362 00:16:21,021 --> 00:16:24,066 she felt guilty for what her father had done to them. 363 00:16:24,108 --> 00:16:27,152 Guilty? She was a child. 364 00:16:27,194 --> 00:16:29,196 Oh, man. Look at her arrests. 365 00:16:29,238 --> 00:16:32,241 Thirteen years old she gets busted for booze and pot. 366 00:16:32,282 --> 00:16:35,202 I think she knew what he was doing even back then. 367 00:16:35,244 --> 00:16:37,371 Keeping this secret has ruined her life. 368 00:16:37,413 --> 00:16:38,622 Mr. Garner told ed and ray 369 00:16:38,664 --> 00:16:41,875 Donna has always been a sad case, since she was a child. 370 00:16:41,917 --> 00:16:46,296 Raised by a serial killer, how could she not be? 371 00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:49,049 Kale knew the garners pretty well. 372 00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:51,468 For years. 373 00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:53,470 All of Kale's victims 374 00:16:53,512 --> 00:16:55,723 lived in shady side township.. 375 00:16:55,764 --> 00:16:58,767 Within five miles of his house. 376 00:16:58,809 --> 00:17:01,937 Maybe he knew his other victims, as well. 377 00:17:01,979 --> 00:17:06,358 We should start with the most recent one first. 378 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,318 Anne blackwood. 379 00:17:09,194 --> 00:17:12,990 I think of Anne every day. What I think is, she's dead. 380 00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:16,035 The man who killed her is still out there walking around 381 00:17:16,076 --> 00:17:19,955 breathing the air... Happy to be alive. 382 00:17:19,997 --> 00:17:22,166 - So he's the professor? - 'We think so.' 383 00:17:22,207 --> 00:17:24,001 he killed a woman a few days ago. 384 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:27,421 He looks kind of familiar. But I don't know, I'm not placing him. 385 00:17:27,463 --> 00:17:31,759 Did you or Anne ever attend the first methodist church? 386 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,720 Sorry, presbyterian. Why? 387 00:17:35,345 --> 00:17:37,389 - He's a Deacon. - A Deacon? 388 00:17:37,431 --> 00:17:39,725 Who would suspect a Deacon. 389 00:17:39,767 --> 00:17:43,187 Like I said, he looks kind of familiar, but.. 390 00:17:45,856 --> 00:17:48,442 (Ed) 'How about this one?' 391 00:17:48,484 --> 00:17:51,028 - 'now, who's that?' - Same guy. 392 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:52,529 That's what he looks like now. 393 00:17:52,571 --> 00:17:56,450 That's why he looks familiar. The uniform. 394 00:17:56,492 --> 00:17:59,870 'I remember him. He used to patrol around here.' 395 00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:01,080 he cited us once 396 00:18:01,121 --> 00:18:03,415 letting the dogs run off the leash. 397 00:18:03,457 --> 00:18:06,543 Now we know how to connect Kale to the victims, his job. 398 00:18:06,585 --> 00:18:08,146 Kale's job's giving people tickets, right? 399 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:10,172 Grass is long, Kale writes you a ticket. 400 00:18:10,214 --> 00:18:12,424 Garbage can missing lid, Kale writes a ticket. 401 00:18:12,466 --> 00:18:13,967 Riding a bike on the sidewalk... 402 00:18:14,009 --> 00:18:15,135 Kale writes you a ticket. 403 00:18:15,177 --> 00:18:17,137 We ran a computer search of Kale's citations. 404 00:18:17,179 --> 00:18:19,389 He ticketed Liz garner for a trash can violation 405 00:18:19,431 --> 00:18:22,059 one week before he killed her and four other times 406 00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:23,894 in the three months prior to her death. 407 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:26,438 You found a similar pattern with the other victims? 408 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,148 Computer records only go back to '89. 409 00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:30,109 But from '89 forward the answer's yes. 410 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:31,735 Kale ticketed every one of his victims 411 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:34,738 'multiple times in the months before they were murdered.' 412 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:36,198 that can't be a coincidence. 413 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,617 A defense attorney would argue it's exactly that 414 00:18:38,659 --> 00:18:39,785 just Kale doing his job. 415 00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:41,703 That's why we gotta through Kale's records 416 00:18:41,745 --> 00:18:45,332 from before '89, see what else there is. 417 00:18:45,374 --> 00:18:48,293 Get a subpoena. 418 00:18:48,335 --> 00:18:49,795 Will do. 419 00:18:49,837 --> 00:18:51,171 (Maureen) 'Here's another one.' 420 00:18:51,213 --> 00:18:52,631 this one about Liz garner 421 00:18:52,673 --> 00:18:55,217 written in the margin of a citation. 422 00:18:55,259 --> 00:18:59,805 "Lizzie g, home alone, 10:36 until 3:49." 423 00:18:59,847 --> 00:19:03,600 "Bonnie arrives. Mr. G, 6:42". 424 00:19:03,642 --> 00:19:07,020 Just like the photocopies of the licenses 425 00:19:07,062 --> 00:19:09,148 hidden in plain sight. 426 00:19:09,189 --> 00:19:11,692 If you consider burying it in a hundred thousand pages 427 00:19:11,733 --> 00:19:14,361 of parking tickets and lawn care citations plain sight. 428 00:19:14,403 --> 00:19:15,612 'But you see what I mean.' 429 00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:18,031 'Kale wants this stuff to look like work-related notes' 430 00:19:18,073 --> 00:19:19,908 written in the margin of a citation 431 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:21,785 but you put it all together.. 432 00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,453 He had 'em under surveillance. 433 00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:26,498 - He was stalking 'em. - Planning their deaths. 434 00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:28,667 [Dramatic music] 435 00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:31,795 Annabeth, sorry to wake you. 436 00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:34,006 [Instrumental music] 437 00:19:36,258 --> 00:19:38,594 You charged Mr. Kale for the garner murder. 438 00:19:38,635 --> 00:19:39,887 What's this about? 439 00:19:39,928 --> 00:19:41,471 Your client.. 440 00:19:41,513 --> 00:19:44,224 Is the professor, Mr. Bosco. 441 00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:45,934 Mrs. Garner was his ninth victim. 442 00:19:45,976 --> 00:19:47,269 'If you could prove that' 443 00:19:47,311 --> 00:19:50,397 I doubt you'd be sitting here trying to make a deal. 444 00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:51,857 Her accusations are ridiculous. 445 00:19:51,899 --> 00:19:54,359 For Mr. Kale's confession to the eight previous murders 446 00:19:54,401 --> 00:19:56,278 as well as Liz garner's we'll agree 447 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,654 not to seek the death penalty. 448 00:19:57,696 --> 00:20:00,240 I can't advise my client to take a deal' 449 00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:01,467 without knowing about your case. 450 00:20:01,491 --> 00:20:03,994 His work records connect him to all the victims 451 00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:05,412 including Liz garner. 452 00:20:05,454 --> 00:20:07,956 They show how he surveilled them, timed their attacks 453 00:20:07,998 --> 00:20:10,500 his points of entry and escape from their homes. 454 00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,836 That interpretation of my work records 455 00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:15,464 shows a lively imagination, miss chase. 456 00:20:15,505 --> 00:20:17,174 ' "June 12, 2006"' 457 00:20:17,216 --> 00:20:20,093 "8:47 A.M., Liz's husband departs." 458 00:20:20,135 --> 00:20:23,013 "9:17, Liz goes to grocery store." 459 00:20:23,055 --> 00:20:25,807 "10:51, Liz home. Ice cream." 460 00:20:25,849 --> 00:20:29,186 "6:24 P.M., husband Jim home from hard day at office." 461 00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:31,730 Is that related in any way to your work? 462 00:20:31,772 --> 00:20:33,357 'Yes, it is.' 463 00:20:33,398 --> 00:20:37,236 residents cited for violations often make excuses. 464 00:20:37,277 --> 00:20:39,571 My detailed notes ensure that when such excuses 465 00:20:39,613 --> 00:20:42,157 are less than truthful, they do not convince 466 00:20:42,199 --> 00:20:44,701 our town's credulous magistrates. 467 00:20:44,743 --> 00:20:47,663 If that's the best explanation you have, Mr. Kale 468 00:20:47,704 --> 00:20:50,707 you're gonna be executed for these murders. 469 00:20:50,749 --> 00:20:52,876 I should discuss this with my client. 470 00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:53,961 'No need.' 471 00:20:54,002 --> 00:20:58,131 I'm innocent. I'll take my chances at trial. 472 00:20:58,173 --> 00:21:00,717 Then we'll proceed with the charges. 473 00:21:02,886 --> 00:21:05,347 I don't care what you told Kale or his lawyer. 474 00:21:05,389 --> 00:21:08,058 I'm not ready to indict him on the serial killings. 475 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,060 These records prove Kale tracked every one 476 00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:11,120 of the professor's victims. 477 00:21:11,144 --> 00:21:12,688 But not that he murdered them! 478 00:21:12,729 --> 00:21:14,147 If this were any other case 479 00:21:14,189 --> 00:21:17,067 I would go ahead and indict but we cannot afford 480 00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:18,652 to be wrong about Kale. 481 00:21:18,694 --> 00:21:21,446 Or worse, right and not get a conviction. 482 00:21:21,488 --> 00:21:23,657 Are you running away from this case? 483 00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:24,574 Ed. 484 00:21:24,616 --> 00:21:26,952 Do you believe Kale killed these women or not? 485 00:21:26,994 --> 00:21:28,388 Let's grab some coffee, alright, man? 486 00:21:28,412 --> 00:21:30,998 That's a good idea. I suggest you do that. 487 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:32,374 They matter, conlon! 488 00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:34,710 Their families have been waiting for years! 489 00:21:34,751 --> 00:21:38,005 Believe me, ed... I want to indict him. 490 00:21:38,046 --> 00:21:40,966 (Conlon) 'So why don't you find me the victims' clothing?' 491 00:21:41,008 --> 00:21:43,510 find me their driver's licenses. 492 00:21:43,552 --> 00:21:44,970 Find me the typewriter he used 493 00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:48,432 to type the letters that he sent to the papers and the police. 494 00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:50,892 I'll indict Kale on the professor killings 495 00:21:50,934 --> 00:21:54,604 when you find me something other than your opinion 496 00:21:54,646 --> 00:21:56,857 about how to proceed with a murder trial. 497 00:21:56,898 --> 00:22:00,235 I've done 43 of them. How about you? 498 00:22:00,277 --> 00:22:02,904 You want to keep your perfect record, is that it? 499 00:22:02,946 --> 00:22:06,241 - Your winning streak? - 'Come on, big fellow.' 500 00:22:06,283 --> 00:22:09,911 before you say something you really regret. 501 00:22:09,953 --> 00:22:12,122 [Intense music] 502 00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:17,502 Continue prepping for the garner trial. 503 00:22:17,544 --> 00:22:19,546 We have the hearing on bosco's motion 504 00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:20,756 to suppress in the morning. 505 00:22:20,797 --> 00:22:23,467 I'm not anticipating any trouble, are you? 506 00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,677 [Music continues] 507 00:22:29,598 --> 00:22:32,934 If we lose the blood evidence, we are in trouble. 508 00:22:32,976 --> 00:22:36,313 Then we'd absolutely need Donna to testify against her father. 509 00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:40,734 - And if she still won't? - He'll probably walk. 510 00:22:49,409 --> 00:22:51,203 The blood evidence from Mr. Kale's house 511 00:22:51,244 --> 00:22:52,662 should be suppressed, your honor. 512 00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:55,832 Indiana code 35-33-5-2 requires a search warrant affidavit 513 00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:57,501 based on hearsay to be corroborated. 514 00:22:57,542 --> 00:22:59,419 The warrant was based on many facts. 515 00:22:59,461 --> 00:23:01,046 It wouldn't have been issued 516 00:23:01,088 --> 00:23:02,357 without Timothy veeter's statement, sir. 517 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:03,775 Did investigator Williams corroborate 518 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:05,151 Mr. Veeter's statement, miss chase? 519 00:23:05,175 --> 00:23:06,802 The totality of the circumstances 520 00:23:06,843 --> 00:23:08,595 corroborated the statement, your honor. 521 00:23:08,637 --> 00:23:10,806 You didn't quite answer my question, miss chase. 522 00:23:10,847 --> 00:23:12,891 Without providing any factual basis 523 00:23:12,933 --> 00:23:14,559 a drug addict reports to the authorities 524 00:23:14,601 --> 00:23:16,812 his addict ex-girlfriend's suspicion that her father 525 00:23:16,853 --> 00:23:19,356 killed Liz garner. How does that corroborate anything? 526 00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:20,649 Miss Kale visited her father 527 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:23,044 shortly before burning evidence taken from the murder scene. 528 00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:25,654 Critical claim of the affidavit was that Mr. Kale 529 00:23:25,695 --> 00:23:26,947 murdered Liz garner. 530 00:23:26,988 --> 00:23:28,925 Under the Mason precedent, the statement needs more 531 00:23:28,949 --> 00:23:31,094 than Donna Kale's whereabouts hours before burning evidence 532 00:23:31,118 --> 00:23:33,120 from the murder scene to corroborate that claim. 533 00:23:33,161 --> 00:23:35,414 The magistrate who issued the warrant could have asked... 534 00:23:35,455 --> 00:23:38,917 It's not that magistrate's court, miss chase, it's mine. 535 00:23:38,959 --> 00:23:42,754 The affidavit falls short, the blood evidence is suppressed. 536 00:23:53,849 --> 00:23:55,225 Why are you letting me out? 537 00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:59,396 I thought you'll finally be willing to talk to me if I did. 538 00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:00,772 I don't care what you do. 539 00:24:00,814 --> 00:24:02,691 I'm not talking to you about my father. 540 00:24:02,732 --> 00:24:06,027 Donna, I saw the way you looked at those pictures. 541 00:24:06,069 --> 00:24:07,446 You knew about those women. 542 00:24:07,487 --> 00:24:10,532 That's why you started taking drugs when you were a kid. 543 00:24:10,574 --> 00:24:13,118 You knew what he was doing. 544 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,079 That must have been such a terrible burden for you. 545 00:24:16,121 --> 00:24:20,375 I can't imagine what you've gone through. 546 00:24:21,543 --> 00:24:22,878 I'm sorry. 547 00:24:22,919 --> 00:24:25,422 [Instrumental music] 548 00:24:32,387 --> 00:24:34,431 [Instrumental music] 549 00:24:35,515 --> 00:24:38,768 I want Kale indicted for the serial killings today. 550 00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:40,437 - What? - You heard me. 551 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:43,190 We're charging Kale with the professor killings. 552 00:24:43,231 --> 00:24:44,399 Why the change of heart? 553 00:24:44,441 --> 00:24:46,526 Because ed here forced my hand. 554 00:24:46,568 --> 00:24:48,487 He leaked the story to the press. 555 00:24:48,528 --> 00:24:50,864 'Now if I don't charge Kale, I look weak.' 556 00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:53,867 if I don't convict him, I look incompetent. 557 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:55,160 "Will the professor walk? 558 00:24:55,202 --> 00:24:57,204 "Indy's most notorious killer's slipping through 559 00:24:57,245 --> 00:25:00,332 prosecutor's fingers." 560 00:25:02,375 --> 00:25:04,377 Wasn't me. 561 00:25:04,419 --> 00:25:06,296 "Asked why Kale had not been indicted 562 00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:08,673 '"on the professor's eight claimed murders.' 563 00:25:08,715 --> 00:25:11,218 "an anonymous source close to the case said 564 00:25:11,259 --> 00:25:14,679 "that chief deputy prosecutor, conlon was too cautious 565 00:25:14,721 --> 00:25:17,307 "to put forward a case of which he was not 566 00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:19,100 100 percent certain he could win." 567 00:25:19,142 --> 00:25:22,145 I don't care what you think, I didn't rat you out. 568 00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:24,314 Then who did? If not you, then who? 569 00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:25,482 I'm not an anonymous source. 570 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,901 That's my story, I'd put my name on it. 571 00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:30,445 If this comes back to you, you're done. 572 00:25:30,487 --> 00:25:32,656 (Annabeth) Wait, wait. 573 00:25:32,697 --> 00:25:34,950 What if Kale leaked the story to the papers? 574 00:25:34,991 --> 00:25:38,119 Why would Kale wanna be charged with those eight murders? 575 00:25:38,161 --> 00:25:39,204 Attention. 576 00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:41,581 Appreciation for his criminal genius. 577 00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:43,333 He's facing the death penalty. 578 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:45,377 And his lawyer just kicked our butts 579 00:25:45,418 --> 00:25:47,170 on the garner blood evidence. 580 00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:50,715 Maybe he thinks he can get away with the professor killings too. 581 00:25:50,757 --> 00:25:51,967 That's his fantasy. 582 00:25:52,008 --> 00:25:55,845 To be indicted as the professor but acquitted of the crimes. 583 00:25:55,887 --> 00:25:57,806 Thumb his nose at the world. 584 00:25:57,847 --> 00:26:00,100 Well, that's quite a gamble on his part. 585 00:26:00,141 --> 00:26:01,518 He doesn't see it that way. 586 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,312 He's so smart. It isn't a gamble at all. 587 00:26:04,354 --> 00:26:06,356 For him it's the ultimate victory. 588 00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:08,900 The culmination of his life's work. 589 00:26:08,942 --> 00:26:10,652 I want the indictments filed today. 590 00:26:10,694 --> 00:26:14,072 And I want a press conference scheduled for this afternoon. 591 00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:16,157 If there's gonna be a show.. 592 00:26:16,199 --> 00:26:20,370 It'll be my show, not Kale's. 593 00:26:23,707 --> 00:26:26,793 [Indistinct chattering] 594 00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:39,347 [Intense music] 595 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:42,934 [Crowd whispering] 596 00:26:51,818 --> 00:26:53,987 People versus Eugene Kale. Eight counts of murder. 597 00:26:54,029 --> 00:26:56,615 Do you understand the charges against you, Mr. Kale? 598 00:26:56,656 --> 00:26:58,366 - I do. - 'How do you plead?' 599 00:26:58,408 --> 00:26:59,701 not guilty, your honor. 600 00:26:59,743 --> 00:27:02,871 Since the accused is already in custody, I assume bail is moot? 601 00:27:02,912 --> 00:27:05,290 - I would hope so, your honor. - 'Mr. Conlon.' 602 00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:09,169 Mr. Kale savagely murdered nine women in their homes. 603 00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:11,755 'I'm sure you'll agree he poses a serious threat' 604 00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:13,214 'to the people of Indianapolis.' 605 00:27:13,256 --> 00:27:16,551 'were he to be out on bail and commit another such crime' 606 00:27:16,593 --> 00:27:18,637 it would truly be a tragedy, sir. 607 00:27:18,678 --> 00:27:21,473 I do agree, Mr. Conlon. Mr. Kale is remanded. 608 00:27:21,514 --> 00:27:23,099 [Gavel striking] 609 00:27:24,684 --> 00:27:26,603 [Crowd whispering] 610 00:27:44,162 --> 00:27:45,455 Heard it was quite a show. 611 00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:49,000 Kale loved it. Ate up the attention with a spoon. 612 00:27:49,042 --> 00:27:50,752 I'm sure he's never been happier. 613 00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:52,420 I was thinking about his victims. 614 00:27:52,462 --> 00:27:55,215 Do you think Kale would have eventually claimed Liz garner 615 00:27:55,256 --> 00:27:57,300 as one of the professor's subjects? 616 00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,302 He got interrupted, the professor never claimed 617 00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,262 any crime that wasn't perfectly staged. 618 00:28:01,304 --> 00:28:02,764 Where you going with this? 619 00:28:02,806 --> 00:28:04,516 Maybe there were others he didn't claim. 620 00:28:04,557 --> 00:28:06,476 That he botched for one reason or another. 621 00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:08,687 Want us to look through his work records. 622 00:28:08,728 --> 00:28:10,480 Find other women he might've stalked. 623 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:11,773 Yeah. Cross reference. 624 00:28:11,815 --> 00:28:13,483 Female assault and murder victims 625 00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:15,735 in shady side township for the past 25 years. 626 00:28:15,777 --> 00:28:18,905 If we find a victim who also received tickets from Kale 627 00:28:18,947 --> 00:28:20,532 she's probably one of his. 628 00:28:20,573 --> 00:28:21,825 She's also probably dead. 629 00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:24,494 Assault victims too, not just murders. Who knows? 630 00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:26,663 If one of 'em managed to get away 631 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:29,249 maybe we even find a witness. 632 00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:35,088 (Ed) 'Excuse me, ma'am.' 633 00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:36,256 can I help you? 634 00:28:36,297 --> 00:28:39,718 Ed Williams, Indianapolis prosecutor's office. 635 00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:43,179 - Are you charlene Darcy? - Yes. 636 00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:47,642 Were you the victim of an assault in December 1994? 637 00:28:48,435 --> 00:28:49,394 Yes, I was. 638 00:28:49,436 --> 00:28:51,771 Could I ask you to look at a picture? 639 00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:54,983 We've come up with a possible suspect. 640 00:28:55,024 --> 00:28:56,693 Sure. 641 00:28:56,735 --> 00:28:59,154 Oh, yes. 642 00:29:00,613 --> 00:29:03,616 He had a gun. 643 00:29:03,658 --> 00:29:08,413 He took me to the basement and tied me up. 644 00:29:08,455 --> 00:29:11,541 Then he.. 645 00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:14,711 Choked me until I passed out. 646 00:29:16,171 --> 00:29:19,716 When I woke up, he asked questions. 647 00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:22,385 What did he wanna know? 648 00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:27,056 What it felt like to die? 649 00:29:27,098 --> 00:29:32,437 The last image that came into my mind before I blacked out. 650 00:29:34,689 --> 00:29:38,359 How many times did he choke you? 651 00:29:38,401 --> 00:29:41,196 Three or four. 652 00:29:41,237 --> 00:29:45,825 The last time he must have thought I was dead because.. 653 00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:48,495 He untied me. 654 00:29:48,536 --> 00:29:50,288 I came.. 655 00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:53,458 I came to, and.. 656 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:57,504 I was on, on the floor on my back. 657 00:29:57,545 --> 00:30:01,257 'He was standing over me..' 658 00:30:01,299 --> 00:30:04,177 with his pants around his ankles. 659 00:30:04,219 --> 00:30:06,805 And.. 660 00:30:06,846 --> 00:30:08,848 He was.. 661 00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:11,476 You know.. 662 00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:15,355 Yeah, I-I get it. 663 00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:18,191 Uh, how did you escape? 664 00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:20,109 Well, my husband wasn't feeling well 665 00:30:20,151 --> 00:30:22,862 came home from work early that day 666 00:30:22,904 --> 00:30:25,490 which saved my life. 667 00:30:25,532 --> 00:30:31,371 The guy heard Bob in the driveway, ran away. 668 00:30:32,747 --> 00:30:34,624 He masturbated over his victims. 669 00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:37,961 It might be why he cleans his crime scenes so obsessively. 670 00:30:38,002 --> 00:30:40,755 Brags about the killing but embarrassed by the sex? 671 00:30:40,797 --> 00:30:41,965 The professor. 672 00:30:42,006 --> 00:30:44,592 Never thought we'd discover his dirty little secret. 673 00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:47,637 He's gonna be really embarrassed when it comes out at trial. 674 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:51,099 So embarrassed he might even wanna cut a deal. 675 00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:58,481 You remember her? Hm? 676 00:31:01,067 --> 00:31:02,151 She remembers you. 677 00:31:02,193 --> 00:31:04,362 Only it's not in a very professorial light. 678 00:31:04,404 --> 00:31:07,866 - And what does that mean? - He attacked this girl in 1994. 679 00:31:07,907 --> 00:31:10,827 Thought she was dead but she wasn't, when she woke up 680 00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:15,123 the self-proclaimed professor here was.. 681 00:31:15,164 --> 00:31:17,667 Well, he knows what he was doing. 682 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:20,503 You never wrote to the newspapers about her, did you? 683 00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:24,799 But thanks to his work records, we found her. 684 00:31:24,841 --> 00:31:27,051 You ladies see things in these work records.. 685 00:31:27,093 --> 00:31:28,344 That just aren't there. 686 00:31:28,386 --> 00:31:30,847 I guess we'll find out when miss Darcy testifies. 687 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:33,016 Tells the world what she saw you doing 688 00:31:33,057 --> 00:31:34,434 when she regained consciousness. 689 00:31:34,475 --> 00:31:36,519 (Jeffrey) 'Once again our meeting has barely begun' 690 00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:39,772 and you've seemed to turn it into a kangaroo court, eh? 691 00:31:39,814 --> 00:31:41,274 I think we're done here. 692 00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:42,984 Guard. 693 00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:45,862 Wait. 694 00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:49,240 If this woman saw you, it was 12 years ago. 695 00:31:49,282 --> 00:31:51,117 We dunno what they can prove about her. 696 00:31:51,159 --> 00:31:54,579 Or how it relates to the murders for which you've been indicted. 697 00:31:54,621 --> 00:31:57,290 He knows exactly what he did to charlene Darcy 698 00:31:57,332 --> 00:31:58,708 and the eight others. 699 00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:02,170 What he would have done to Liz garner if he wasn't interrupted. 700 00:32:02,211 --> 00:32:03,796 It's why he washed them down and 701 00:32:03,838 --> 00:32:05,590 tucked them in when he was finished. 702 00:32:05,632 --> 00:32:08,593 He was ashamed. Not of the killing. 703 00:32:08,635 --> 00:32:10,511 Of the sex. 704 00:32:19,103 --> 00:32:21,981 I will tell you what you want to know. 705 00:32:22,523 --> 00:32:23,650 You'll confess? 706 00:32:23,691 --> 00:32:26,527 To the nine murders only, nothing else. 707 00:32:26,569 --> 00:32:29,572 I won't confess to what you say I did to that woman 708 00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:32,992 and you will not charge me with what she says she remembers. 709 00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:34,702 (Jeffrey) 'This is a proffer, miss chase.' 710 00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:39,582 if we don't reach a deal, what he says cannot be used at trial. 711 00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:41,626 Agreed. 712 00:32:41,668 --> 00:32:43,211 Go on, Mr. Kale. 713 00:32:43,252 --> 00:32:47,090 I wanna speak at my plea allocution.. 714 00:32:47,131 --> 00:32:48,424 For as long as I need. 715 00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:52,178 Guilty, your honor, nine times. That's all you have to say. 716 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:53,554 No. 717 00:32:53,596 --> 00:32:55,306 They were very dear to me. 718 00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:58,184 All of them. 719 00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:00,520 Anne.. 720 00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:03,147 Maggie.. 721 00:33:03,189 --> 00:33:05,191 Rebecca.. 722 00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:07,276 Sarah.. 723 00:33:07,318 --> 00:33:09,404 Virginia.. 724 00:33:09,445 --> 00:33:12,490 Lisa.. 725 00:33:12,532 --> 00:33:15,743 Joan.. 726 00:33:15,785 --> 00:33:17,870 And Betty. 727 00:33:17,912 --> 00:33:21,457 I held them so close for many years. 728 00:33:21,499 --> 00:33:25,169 I wanna share with the world what I learned from them. 729 00:33:25,211 --> 00:33:27,338 My research.. 730 00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:29,465 My book.. 731 00:33:29,507 --> 00:33:35,138 Which is not yet written. 732 00:33:35,179 --> 00:33:38,141 I have so much to thank them for. 733 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:51,237 We let him thank his victims in court? 734 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,740 Revel in all the gory details of their deaths? 735 00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:56,743 We take nine murder convictions for the victory they are. 736 00:33:56,784 --> 00:33:57,869 Kale dies in prison. 737 00:33:57,910 --> 00:34:00,413 He wants to demean his victims all over again 738 00:34:00,455 --> 00:34:01,539 and torture their families. 739 00:34:01,581 --> 00:34:03,416 I'm sorry for that but with his confession 740 00:34:03,458 --> 00:34:06,502 we avoid going to trial. Never know what a jury's gonna do. 741 00:34:06,544 --> 00:34:09,047 He's embarrassed about what charlene Darcy knows about him. 742 00:34:09,088 --> 00:34:11,591 I guarantee you he would give up his allocution 743 00:34:11,632 --> 00:34:12,884 rather than face her. 744 00:34:12,925 --> 00:34:15,803 You can't risk nine convictions to find out if you're right. 745 00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:18,389 We'll get his confession without letting him make a speech. 746 00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:21,392 Gimme one more chance with Donna before we finalize the plea. 747 00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:23,186 What's it that you think she knows? 748 00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,104 A lot. She may not realize how much. 749 00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:27,648 She lived with him the years he committed these crimes. 750 00:34:27,690 --> 00:34:30,860 If we get her talking, who knows what she leads us to. 751 00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:33,654 We may finally find Kale's trophies. 752 00:34:33,696 --> 00:34:36,324 I want Kale's signed plea agreement on my desk 753 00:34:36,365 --> 00:34:37,492 by 5 o'clock tomorrow. 754 00:34:37,533 --> 00:34:40,328 Now, if you can find a way to get that 755 00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:42,413 without granting him his little speech, great. 756 00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:45,875 If not, you give him what he wants. 757 00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:53,049 You're relentless, you know that? 758 00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:54,842 Your father confessed. 759 00:34:54,884 --> 00:34:57,512 You can't pretend anymore that it didn't happen. 760 00:34:57,553 --> 00:35:01,265 He's gonna tell a judge exactly what he did to those women. 761 00:35:01,307 --> 00:35:03,810 What do you want from me? 762 00:35:03,851 --> 00:35:04,977 Donna.. 763 00:35:05,019 --> 00:35:07,271 Your father wants the attention. 764 00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:10,858 He wants to enjoy killing those women all over again 765 00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,194 at the expense of their families. 766 00:35:13,236 --> 00:35:16,531 You of all people should know how painful that would be. 767 00:35:16,572 --> 00:35:18,991 - He's a freak. - But you're not. 768 00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:25,248 And feeling responsible for what he did is ruining your life. 769 00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:27,750 I don't get it. 770 00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:29,919 Why are you here? 771 00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:32,713 Why do you care about me? 772 00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:35,424 Because of what he did to you. 773 00:35:35,466 --> 00:35:38,553 He's destroyed your life too. 774 00:35:43,724 --> 00:35:47,353 I always thought my dad was lonely. 775 00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:50,439 When I was about.. 776 00:35:50,481 --> 00:35:53,359 Twelve, my best friend and I found 777 00:35:53,401 --> 00:35:58,406 a lady's scarf and driver's license in my dad's closet. 778 00:35:58,447 --> 00:35:59,866 The one you showed me. 779 00:35:59,907 --> 00:36:04,495 With the blonde hair and the pretty smile. 780 00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:08,666 I had seen my dad talking to her a couple times 781 00:36:08,708 --> 00:36:11,294 in the grocery store. 782 00:36:11,335 --> 00:36:13,588 And um.. 783 00:36:13,629 --> 00:36:15,423 I told my friend.. 784 00:36:15,464 --> 00:36:18,384 That they were secretly in love. 785 00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:21,470 And that soon.. 786 00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:25,099 I would have a new mom. 787 00:36:25,141 --> 00:36:26,434 Couple weeks later 788 00:36:26,475 --> 00:36:30,730 an article in the newspaper said that.. 789 00:36:30,771 --> 00:36:35,610 The woman was dead. 790 00:36:35,651 --> 00:36:37,904 And that.. 791 00:36:39,447 --> 00:36:41,616 That her, her killer had sent a copy 792 00:36:41,657 --> 00:36:45,745 of her driver's license to the police. 793 00:36:45,786 --> 00:36:48,372 Oh, I'm so sorry. 794 00:36:48,414 --> 00:36:49,457 I don't know what.. 795 00:36:49,498 --> 00:36:53,794 What to tell you. I don't know how to help you. 796 00:36:53,836 --> 00:36:57,673 We can't find the things he took from his victims. 797 00:36:58,341 --> 00:36:59,592 Maybe he got rid of 'em. 798 00:36:59,634 --> 00:37:01,844 (Annabeth) 'Well, we think he's still got them.' 799 00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:06,641 serial killers tend to hang on to their trophies. 800 00:37:07,850 --> 00:37:10,937 - Did you search the house? - Top to bottom. 801 00:37:10,978 --> 00:37:13,940 Is there someplace else he may have hidden them, Donna? 802 00:37:13,981 --> 00:37:17,401 Maybe, um... A friend's house or a relative's? 803 00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:20,029 He hates his relatives. 804 00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:21,822 No friends. 805 00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:25,701 Spent all his time at home working on his weird hobbies. 806 00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:27,453 The, um.. 807 00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:30,373 - Needlepoint? Birdhouses? - Yeah. 808 00:37:30,414 --> 00:37:33,626 He's obsessed with those things. 809 00:37:33,668 --> 00:37:36,420 His knick-knacks. 810 00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:40,383 Donna said her father was obsessed with his hobbies. 811 00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:42,468 Remember the notations in the work records? 812 00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:44,428 The photocopies in the scrapbooks? 813 00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:47,848 I think Kale's trophies are somewhere right here. 814 00:37:47,890 --> 00:37:49,558 In plain sight. 815 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,560 Plain sight, huh? 816 00:37:51,602 --> 00:37:53,604 Where would that be? 817 00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:55,856 [Dramatic music] 818 00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:41,402 Guys, look at this. Look at this. 819 00:38:43,070 --> 00:38:45,948 Kale's hobby. 820 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:50,369 He turned his victims' clothing into a memory quilt. 821 00:38:52,997 --> 00:38:55,750 [Intense music] 822 00:39:19,899 --> 00:39:21,359 It's a pocket. 823 00:39:43,172 --> 00:39:46,258 I said I would speak for an unlimited amount of time 824 00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:51,097 at the allocution. It's not in here. 825 00:39:51,138 --> 00:39:53,933 That's because it's not gonna happen. 826 00:39:55,351 --> 00:39:57,311 Then I rescind my offer. 827 00:39:57,353 --> 00:40:01,232 We're being generous, Mr. Kale, considering the alternative. 828 00:40:01,273 --> 00:40:03,359 The alternative is I don't confess. 829 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:05,694 The alternative is we humiliate you for months 830 00:40:05,736 --> 00:40:07,238 in court and in the press. 831 00:40:07,279 --> 00:40:10,616 Leak compromising photos to the tabloids and then a jury.. 832 00:40:10,658 --> 00:40:14,161 Gives you the death penalty. 833 00:40:14,203 --> 00:40:16,622 I'm afraid you've lost me. 834 00:40:22,711 --> 00:40:25,589 We found your quilt. 835 00:40:28,008 --> 00:40:31,137 Your trophy photos.. 836 00:40:32,263 --> 00:40:35,182 Your dirty little pictures.. 837 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,147 You don't even measure up to the twisted killer 838 00:40:41,188 --> 00:40:42,565 you pretended to be. 839 00:40:42,606 --> 00:40:44,775 The professor. 840 00:40:45,651 --> 00:40:48,571 You're just a pervert. 841 00:40:48,612 --> 00:40:50,156 Pathetic, little pervert. 842 00:40:50,197 --> 00:40:52,283 I should be allowed to address the court. 843 00:40:52,324 --> 00:40:54,827 No allocution, no press, no gallery. 844 00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:57,371 Just an empty courtroom. 845 00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,707 What do you mean? 846 00:40:59,748 --> 00:41:03,002 The families won't be there? 847 00:41:03,043 --> 00:41:05,463 We're protecting the families from you, Mr. Kale. 848 00:41:05,504 --> 00:41:09,258 They'll have their own press conference after you're gone. 849 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:10,759 (Jeffrey) 'It's a public proceeding.' 850 00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:12,219 - you can't close it. - Sue us. 851 00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:14,680 By the time you obtain a temporary injunction.. 852 00:41:14,722 --> 00:41:17,892 He'll be on the bus to the penitentiary. 853 00:41:24,398 --> 00:41:26,042 (Judge Jenkins) 'You're charged with murder' 854 00:41:26,066 --> 00:41:27,610 'a class a felony, in count 7?' 855 00:41:27,651 --> 00:41:30,988 - yes, your honor. - 'How'd you plead to count 7?' 856 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:32,323 guilty, your honor. 857 00:41:32,364 --> 00:41:35,784 In count eight, on or about the 23rd day of April, 1997 858 00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:37,870 in the county of Marion, state of Indiana 859 00:41:37,912 --> 00:41:40,915 'it is claimed you did unlawfully kill a human being' 860 00:41:40,956 --> 00:41:42,041 'Anne blackwood' 861 00:41:42,082 --> 00:41:44,502 'knowingly, maliciously, willfully, deliberately.' 862 00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,188 'you understand you're charged with murder' 863 00:41:46,212 --> 00:41:47,838 'a class a felony, in count eight?' 864 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,591 - yes, your honor. - 'How'd you plead to count 8? 865 00:41:50,633 --> 00:41:51,717 Guilty, your honor. 866 00:41:51,759 --> 00:41:54,512 In count 9, on the 31st day of October, 2006 867 00:41:54,553 --> 00:41:56,388 in the county of Marion, state of Indiana 868 00:41:56,430 --> 00:41:59,433 it is claimed you did unlawfully kill a human being 869 00:41:59,475 --> 00:42:00,559 Elizabeth garner 870 00:42:00,601 --> 00:42:03,521 'knowingly, maliciously, willfully, deliberately.' 871 00:42:03,562 --> 00:42:05,564 do you understand you're charged with murder 872 00:42:05,606 --> 00:42:07,233 a class a felony, in count 9? 873 00:42:07,274 --> 00:42:11,445 - 'Yes, your honor.' - 'How'd you plead to count 9?' 874 00:42:13,614 --> 00:42:15,824 guilty, your honor. 875 00:42:24,833 --> 00:42:27,211 Nice job, counselor. 876 00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:28,837 You too. 877 00:42:41,850 --> 00:42:44,436 [Sighs] I guess just go ahead and feed her. 878 00:42:44,478 --> 00:42:47,273 I'll be home by seven to put her to bed. 879 00:42:47,314 --> 00:42:48,774 I've one more meeting. 880 00:42:48,816 --> 00:42:50,901 Okay, thanks. 881 00:42:50,943 --> 00:42:52,861 - Hi, Donna. - Miss chase. 882 00:42:52,903 --> 00:42:54,196 This is my friend, Tim. 883 00:42:54,238 --> 00:42:55,948 - Nice to meet you. - Hi, Tim. 884 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:57,783 I needed some moral support. 885 00:42:57,825 --> 00:42:59,785 I understand. 886 00:42:59,827 --> 00:43:02,204 Come on. 887 00:43:02,246 --> 00:43:04,582 I wanted to, um 888 00:43:04,623 --> 00:43:08,377 thank you for, you know.. 889 00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:10,045 Reaching out to me. 890 00:43:10,087 --> 00:43:11,380 Of course. 891 00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:14,508 The press conference for the families went really well. 892 00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:17,303 I think everybody's relieved. 893 00:43:17,344 --> 00:43:19,763 I hope they know how sorry I am. 894 00:43:19,805 --> 00:43:22,683 Donna, nobody blames you, okay? 895 00:43:22,725 --> 00:43:24,518 You need to know that. 896 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,646 And you need to believe it too. 897 00:43:27,688 --> 00:43:30,232 Here we are. 898 00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:39,950 Hi, Donna. 899 00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:43,704 Mr. Garner. 900 00:43:43,746 --> 00:43:46,206 Thanks for coming. 901 00:43:46,248 --> 00:43:48,167 I'm, uh.. 902 00:43:48,208 --> 00:43:50,586 Glad to see you. 903 00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:52,171 You are? 904 00:43:56,634 --> 00:43:59,428 [Instrumental music] 905 00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:23,994 (Female narrator) Stay tuned for scenes from our next episode. 906 00:44:28,707 --> 00:44:31,126 [Theme music] 68090

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