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Hi, it's Tchad Blake here again,
but this time I'm in a brand-new studio.
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It's pretty awesome.
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It's the Mix With The Masters Studio
in Paris, and I've brought a song
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by an artist who goes
by the name of Queen Kwong.
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Her name is Carre Callaway and she has
incredible musicians playing with her.
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I believe she was discovered
by Trent Reznor at the age of 17.
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She's just done this collection
of songs that I loved.
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And it came to me via a producer named
John Congleton, who I'd done some work for
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a few years back but he recommended me
for the project which well,
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I will be eternally grateful
for John, thank you.
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It became quite
a special project for me.
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I think that lyrically she was definitely
going through some tough times,
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and I loved it
for that.
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It's raw
and also special.
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Note the way she does the songs,
from what I understand,
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is that she goes in
and the band improvise.
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I guess they must have
a set, some parameters.
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But, they basically improvise the song
including lyrics and do the whole thing.
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And, I don't know
what they do after that.
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If they go in and then make it
a little bit more of a song,
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or if it's actually comes out,
but there's a huge portion of it
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which is through
improvisation.
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That also just feels different when you do
that, and I've loved working on this.
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So I've got this song called
"I Know Who You Are,"
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and I have
a rough mix.
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I can show you
where we started.
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It's a very rough mix, and she was
very open for me to do my thing,
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which is my favorite way to work
for an artist is for me to be able just
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to set myself free.
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But I think it was especially good on this
project because she sets herself free,
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and I think it really worked
for me doing it too.
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And it was a really
good collaboration in that regard.
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Not trying to really toot
anybody's horn here, but I liked it.
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And I loved
working on it.
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And I was really happy that she said,
"Yes," when I wanted to do a video
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for Mix With The Masters on it.
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In fact, she was quite enthusiastic so
let's get started on this thing.
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So you can hear where it started and what
I heard to make decisions to take the gig.
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All the music's so different,
all the songs are so different,
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but the thread is her.
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It's her energy and her perspective,
sometimes her anger,
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but letting go
of the anger.
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There's so much here, and this song,
it meant, I think lyrically
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was pretty
self-explanatory.
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I won't start a mix
until I've heard a rough.
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And it's not just because I'm
hearing this song and all that,
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but I want a relevant
rough mix that shows me
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when the artist stopped
working on the song
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what it sounded like when
they thought it was finished.
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I want to know that moment,
and it also helps, obviously,
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when you
get a track.
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I've done mixes before where I've gotten
a rough mix or didn't get a rough mix,
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sorry, and went ahead and did the mix,
sent it out, and they said,
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"Oh, the mix sounds great
but where's the piano?"
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And this has happened
to me three times.
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And I said, "piano?" and I go look
in the session and there's no piano.
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And they say, "Oh, damn,
we'll send you the piano, sorry."
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And it changes
everything.
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I might have to
completely redo the mix.
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So now I have to have what I call
a relevant rough mix to start
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so that doesn't happen.
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But I didn't really get into
how I use the rough in doing a track.
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I don't like to listen to the rough while
I'm doing it because I want to freehand.
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But I will
check it.
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Like, when I get my... what I call my big
brushstrokes, that usually takes me
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anywhere from an hour to three hours,
depending on how many tracks there are,
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how it just comes together, luck,
how much I feel like I have to rearrange.
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Sometimes I'm doing lots of mutes,
I'm moving things, editing.
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So it's all
dependent on that.
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This was really
beautifully arranged
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and I don't think I had to do
very much in that regard.
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But I will check the rough mix
mainly to see vibe.
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You can do a mix that sounds way better
to you on multiple sets of speakers,
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but the vibe
somehow is lost.
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And, vibe doesn't matter
how loud you're playing something.
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You can have yours really tough and loud,
and then play the rough
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and it's like half the level,
but you go, "Wait a minute,
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I'm missing a whole area of this mix.
So what is that?"
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Then, you have to determine...
so I'm not A/B-ing, I'm referencing.
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So I make a distinction
between that.
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A/B-ing, to me, is when you're trying
to copy something, you...
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I got to get my top end like that other
thing. I don't like to do that.
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It's never sounded good to me
because I'm not working on that song.
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Other people's mixes often sound
better than mine to me anyway.
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Just like I was saying the other day, you
know when you make an espresso at home,
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it's good, and you even have
a professional machine maybe,
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but you go out to a cafe
and it always tastes better.
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Well, there's the rough and I mean I just
loved this song the first time I heard it.
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And in fact, it's one of those things
I think as engineers we often do it,
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we hear something and I'll always
find something to do on a mix
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and no matter
how good something is.
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And there's always something
that I like about a mix.
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If I think the mix isn't quite
up to snuff for a record,
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you still usually find
something I like about a vibe.
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And this is just
full of vibe to me.
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So I think I expanded it
and got more energy out of it.
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But again, it's another one
of these times of mixing
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where that's the easy thing to do is get
the top extended and the low end extended.
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But it's very easy to lose
a vibe that was originally there.
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So I had to
watch that on this.
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I'll play the mix, where I ended up,
by my recollection and notes here,
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it says, "mix three" which means
mix one is my first mix,
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and then it looks like I did
two revisions on this
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so this would be the second revision
that ended up being the master.
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So I think you can hear
there's quite a transformation.
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And I guess I'd start
with her on the drums
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because I think that's
the first really noticeable thing.
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Maybe in the intro,
I panned things.
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I panned the vocal over to one side
and the keyboard over to the other.
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I don't think that
was in the rough.
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But, I think to me, that it was a greater
separation between the two.
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I really wanted the intro
to sound almost like a...
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I mean more like a
separate piece of music.
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More like a separate thought
in the back of your head
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that almost didn't
even fit this song.
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It does fit the song, but that's
the picture I had in my head was...
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and by panning the stuff over,
it just feels like it, I don't know,
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more lonely
somehow.
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So that's actually the first thing
that you would hear is that panning.
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And, of course, I've
turned it way down
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so I can get more out of the downbeat
of the drums coming in.
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Let's go up to the drums
and see what I did.
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The darker tracks are, I think,
those are my process tracks.
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And the lighter tracks
are what I got sent.
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So if we listen
to the kick here...
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Pretty cool sample.
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Very aggressive.
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I almost always use a sub-sample on kick
drums, whether it's live drums or machine.
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I just like...
I don't prefer to EQ those things.
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Like the low end.
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If I end up EQ-ing a lot of low end
on different instruments...
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I've never liked
the sound of it.
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It doesn't fit
together as well.
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I like a nice, clean...
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I am adding some Lo-Fi,
so there you go, that's clean.
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But it doesn't sound dirty
but it is adding a resonance to it.
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You can hear it
brings up the low-mids
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or like maybe even some of the upper
low register like 150 to 250 or something.
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Gets rid of that annoying
kind of tick on the top.
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I really love dull kick drums.
That's my favorite.
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It doesn't always work but...
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on this it wouldn't have worked,
but I've kept that dull
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because this
is so aggressive.
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And it looks like I've cut down
on the length a little bit by doing both,
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raising the attack
and bringing the sustain down.
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And then I've got
another sample here.
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Let's see
what that is.
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That's more of just
a normal drum sound.
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I suppose that I was trying
to get a little more punch out of it.
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I find if I add these samples,
like especially with the sub in this,
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because there's a little bit 100 hertz
and 150 on this kick sample,
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it actually
punches up that...
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Fills in the gap between my...
the drum supplied and my...
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It's pretty subtle.
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But, it's there.
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What's that?
What have we got here?
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Let me see
what I did with this.
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So I think
I've got crashes here.
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There's no room,
or there's no real spread.
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And I thought once I got other instruments
in because I usually have more instrument.
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I don't just go
through the drums.
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I would have had everything in,
even if it's lower than it's going to be,
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I would have had everything including
the vocal in while getting these sounds.
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And often overheads,
especially when they're stereo,
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I like how it takes
the focus off the center.
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If you're going to have
the vocal in the center.
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I don't like all that drum stuff
having a focal point right in the center.
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So I think that's why I did
this spread on the snare.
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Created a room sound out of the snare by
adding this SansAmp for the distortion.
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Let's see.
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The honk brings out
a little bit of the snare honk.
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This is set to be an expander,
EvenTide Omnipressor.
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It's mainly taking off
some of that...
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I'm getting rid of a little bit of that
so it's not quite so messy.
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Basically a gate.
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Some EQ, or not.
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More of a gate, but I don't think
that's really doing much.
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I think there's a little
compression on there.
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And then one of my favorite plug-ins
of the last couple of years
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is this
Brainworx Stereomaker.
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I mean for spreading
stuff, like...
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making it sound like you just have
two mics on an instrument instead of one,
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I haven't found
anything that does that.
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And you can do stuff with delays
and phase and all that,
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but it's doing it for you
in a really nice way.
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Plus, you have all these parameters
you can adjust this high-dampening,
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a whole range of tones
here, tilt mode.
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EQ so you can actually, with
equalization, get it more left or right.
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It's really useful for say a hi-hat
if you want it to sound like
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it's coming through
the overheads instead of...
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And it wasn't done with the overheads
or percussion that had one close mic on it
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and you want it to sound like maybe
it was a distant stereo mic or something.
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Plus you can just pan it within
its own field and then output gain.
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And you can mono-ize
the low frequencies.
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So it's a really comprehensive,
very cool plug-in.
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You'll see it a lot
in my mixes these days.
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Hi-hat,
pretty normal stuff.
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Looks like I didn't do
anything to that.
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Toms.
Oh, yeah.
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What's that
plug-in again?
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Oh, it's a SansAmp.
Okay, great.
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I end up using that
a lot for various reasons.
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For crunch, just EQ,
smoothing out the top of something,
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or if it's too ratty
but I don't want to lose the top.
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I can't say all the things
that it does.
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It's a miracle worker.
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That's what it is,
a miracle worker.
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