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Silent Killer
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It's there.
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- Over here.
- Here.
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They're here, Gilly,
they'll get you into hospital.
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They'll help you breathe.
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I managed to get her breathing again.
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How are you doing, love?
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- She's got Motor Neurone Disease.
- Okay, we'll get her sorted.
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Is Mum going to be okay?
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If you could look in on Mrs Reed.
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- Okay, fine.
- Thank you.
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Mr Bridges, I'm Marc Thompson.
Are these your sons?
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Yes. Jack, that's Jamie.
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Could we have a word in private?
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We know about Mum's condition.
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Well, perhaps we could go to my office.
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- Can we see her, doctor?
- Yes, they're bringing her up now.
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You know, she's terrified of hospital.
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Look, Mr Bridges,
your wife is very seriously ill.
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There's tremendous pressure
on her heart and lungs.
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Couldn't she get a heart
and lung transplant?
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Well, even if we found
someone suitable as a donor,
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it wouldn't halt the deterioration.
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I'm sorry.
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Judge, a lady just wandered into court
looking for justice.
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(CHUCKLES) That's novel.
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Maybe she should just write
to Scotland Yard.
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- She wants to sue the Government.
- Don't we all?
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Her husband, three children
and seven grandchildren were killed.
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- How?
- Well, she says they were poisoned
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by depleted uranium used by
the British army in its shells.
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She was married to a former member
of the Iraqi Government.
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Will you see her?
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I'm not inclined to, Coop.
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I said I'd ask you.
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It seems very well-documented,
Mrs Hussein.
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What you really need is a lawyer,
not a judge.
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All the lawyers turn me down.
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It'll be a hard fight.
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I read about you in the newspapers.
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Oh.
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You're my last hope.
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- Can I keep these?
- Yes.
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I have plenty of copies.
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No Vera, Monty?
I thought you were hearing a rape case?
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Hmm, it hasn't got
interesting enough for her yet.
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Is that any good?
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It's not bad.
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Hmm, they've got better
at the vegetarian options.
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Can you take this directions hearing
in the phone masts case?
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Not really.
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Mrs Mills and my ex-wife
are for each of the parties.
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Well, I see neither as an
absolute impediment.
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They might.
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The claimant is likely to die
if we delay.
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She alleges that the signal from
these types of mast caused her illness.
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I've had the master of the rolls on,
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telling me how sensitive this
whole matter is for the Government
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and the Solicitor General.
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- The Home Office has an interest.
- How?
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The masts carry police communications.
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The Home Office is loath
to abandon them.
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Won't it be the taxpayer
who's the loser again if they do?
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And your old friend Tim Listfield.
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Well, it was his company
that put up the masts.
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Would you take a look at this?
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An Iraqi widow wants to sue
the Government
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over the use of depleted uranium
in shells.
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Well, that'll waste everyone's time.
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Read the papers.
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You take the directions hearing,
I'll look at the widow's papers.
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- My lord?
- I'll have the homity pie.
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Is this at the instigation
of the Home Office, Ian?
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The Home Secretary wouldn't presume,
considering who's for the defendant.
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No, the Attorney expressed a concern
as Head of the Bar.
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He need have no concern. Please.
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Thank you.
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It's how it will look, John.
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What's really behind this move, Ian?
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Frankly, money.
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The Home Office's entire
Safe Communications System is at stake.
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And if they've got it wrong
and the claimant
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really has developed
Motor Neurone Disease?
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We might have to consider her
a casualty of progress.
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Why couldn't you have grabbed
this phone mast hearing?
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- Not a safe pair of hands.
- Deed shouldn't be hearing it
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with Mrs Mills and Mrs Channing
on opposite sides.
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- They're both past items.
- That's not what I've heard.
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Do you have good sources?
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None as good as you.
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Enough gossip.
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I want to take your mind on something
the Lord Chief Justice is floating.
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John, do you have a moment?
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Yeah, sure, I'm reading for a case.
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- How's it looking?
- Difficult.
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- Are you sitting down here?
- Not yet.
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Are you seeing your ex-wife?
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Well, there was a recent case in which
I granted her injunctive relief.
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Don't be clever, John.
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I thought you weren't into emotion.
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Well, as attractive as she is,
we were never compatible,
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it took us a while to find that out.
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She's before you in the phone mast case.
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Along with Jo Mills.
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There's a move not to let you hear it.
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Thank you.
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The Chief wondered if you'd like to be
our representative
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at one of The Hague
War Crimes Tribunals.
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Is that going to keep me out of trouble?
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No. I could pop over at weekends
or you could pop back.
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Why doesn't the Chief ask me himself?
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It's rather like the honours list.
He'd sooner not be openly turned down.
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He knows that we're friendly.
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Does he know how friendly?
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If he did, he wouldn't be
so friendly towards me.
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It's an offer that most High Court
judges would give their ears for.
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Then what's he asking me for, then?
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Oh, you have a reputation for fairness,
you strive to be just,
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you're outspoken in your opinions on
what you think is wrong with society.
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Is that a requirement for the job
in The Hague?
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I would think not.
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On the other hand,
the Chief may want to see
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some of those stuffed shirts out there
brought down a peg or two.
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Is it possible he's working
with the Home Office
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to get me off this phone mast case?
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Well, that begs the question.
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Who might they get who would
serve their purposes better?
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Well, I'm not going to give them
the opportunity, Joe.
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Oh, yeah?
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Bye.
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Bye.
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Hello there. Hello, Mimi.
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Coop, ask Mrs Mills to spare me
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a few moments at the end of the day,
would you, please?
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- Just Mrs Mills, Judge?
- I'll see Mrs Channing separately.
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Okay.
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Judge, Mrs Mills didn't feel it
appropriate to meet you.
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Not ever?
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She didn't say.
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Oh, do me a favour, Brian.
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Anything at all for you, Rita,
I've got the kettle on.
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No, I need somebody to look after Mimi.
The Judge has disappeared.
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- What, into thin air?
- I'm assuming...
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It's difficult to keep up
with him these days.
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Perhaps you shouldn't try, Rita.
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Well, I suppose I could look after her.
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It's just I'm not very good
with animals. Dogs make me nervous.
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What, tiny little Mimi?
It's only for a short while.
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She won't bite, Brian,
she's vegetarian.
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Yeah, so is the Judge.
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Back.
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Nice doggie.
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- (KNOCKING ON DOOR)
- Here.
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Sir John Deed is here, miss.
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Oh. Tell him I've gone.
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Uh... The thing is, he's here.
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No, I'm shortly to appear before him.
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That's what he's here about.
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- Thank you, Tony.
- I'll organise you some tea.
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It's not that sort of occasion,
thank you, Tony.
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- What?
- Nothing. Nothing.
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I need to take your view
about my hearing this case.
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- Did you ask to hear it?
- No, Monty Everard asked me to.
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Does George have a view?
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I'm talking to both sides.
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Then can we rely on your impartiality?
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Can you rely on anybody for that?
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It's especially important here.
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Marc and I have set a date
for our wedding.
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I see. When?
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During the boys' half-term.
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Oh, well.
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That seems indecently hasty.
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It's what we want.
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Is your case going to be ready?
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Well, it's now or never
for this claimant,
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- she's so very ill.
- Hmm.
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You look good.
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Aren't you going to wish me well?
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I'm not sure that I want to see you
happily married.
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My mind is made up.
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Well, see you in court.
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Well, at least in your current mood
you won't favour Jo.
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- George, I never did that.
- It looked that way.
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And are you equally concerned that
I might be prejudiced towards her?
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There's an awful lot riding on this case
for the Government.
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George, you shouldn't tell me that.
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As if you didn't know.
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Was it Neil who got the Chief to
offer me the War Crimes job?
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Well, very possibly. It's not the
most sought-after judicial office.
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Would you like to have dinner?
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With a little more notice, maybe.
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I'm meeting Neil at the Commons.
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All right.
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This Iraqi's widow has something, John,
but she's going about it the wrong way.
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How should she go about it?
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Judicial review of the MOD's refusal
to order an inquiry into the use of DU.
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I mean, she'll get nowhere
trying to claim
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that her family died as a direct result
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of our troops using depleted uranium
in their tank shells.
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Is there a case under the 1998 Act?
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The Lord Justice Rix and
Mr Justice Forbes made that quite clear.
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- Hmm.
- The deaths of relatives
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of the claimants in Iraq at the time
when UK was an occupying power
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did not fall within the scope
of the European Convention.
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No, she should seek judicial review,
john, it's clear-cut.
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Well, why don't you hear it?
You've got a ticket.
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I'm not sure I can.
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She'll need a decent lawyer.
Would Mrs Mills run with it?
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She's not very accommodating
to me at present.
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Well, she seems made for it.
Yep, I'm late.
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Why, I've never seen him so animated.
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Yes, I think we've got him hooked.
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USHER: All rise.
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Mrs Channing.
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There is no good legal
foundation for this.
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Mrs Bridges' claim that
she fell to Motor Neurone Disease
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as a result of a mobile phone mast
on a block of flats
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owned by Rotherwas Council
is without evidential foundation.
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The defence is based on
the Court of Appeal's ruling
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that on the balance of probabilities,
there is no real risk from phone masts.
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Instead, there is only a perceived risk.
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And as such, there is no reason
for stopping masts.
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T-Mobile UK Ltd and others
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and the Secretary of State
and Harrogate Borough Council,
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decided by the Court of Appeal, 2004.
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Yes, I am familiar with the ruling.
Mrs Channing, thank you. Mrs Mills?
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The type of mast referred to in the case
my learned friend cited
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are very different from the mast
on top of the block
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where Mr and Mrs Bridges live.
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This is a TETRA mast,
which emits pulsed waves
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at 17.6 megahertz in phases of four.
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These types of masts
are used by the police
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for their internal communications.
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17.6 megahertz is very close to the
16 megahertz brainwaves in humans,
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and as such, cause brain dysfunction.
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One such dysfunction is the depletion
of calcium in the brain,
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a significant contributory factor
in Motor Neurone Disease.
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Mrs Bridges has developed this illness
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since the mast was erected
on top of their flat.
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Five other people,
from a total of 198 in the block,
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have also developed
Motor Neurone Disease.
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Three people, including Mr Bridges,
have developed stomach cancer,
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whilst two have leukaemia.
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Statistically, one person in 100,000 is
likely to develop any of these diseases.
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We would ask that you set this down
for a full hearing
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at the earliest possible date.
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Mrs Channing.
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According to Disraeli, there are lies,
damned lies, and statistics.
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The statistics my learned friend
has presented do not form a case.
251
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The head of the Institute of
Scientific Research
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said recently that there is no link
between phone masts and ill health
253
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other than neurosis from perceived risk.
254
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Their lordship's ruling in the
Court of Appeal was that
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we cannot halt progress simply because
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we believe these things
are making us ill.
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Thank you, Mrs Channing.
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I don't think we could infer
quite such a sweeping conclusion
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from the Court of Appeal's decision.
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Technology and social knowledge of it
is very developmental
261
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and so should the law be.
262
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The Court of Appeal did not freeze-dry
this important part of common law.
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I am going to set this down
for a hearing. Mr Harrison?
264
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Yes, my lord. The earliest date
would be the 29th, I'm afraid.
265
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Hmm, is there nothing sooner?
How frail is Mrs Bridges' health?
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Her most recent medical prognosis.
The matter is very urgent.
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- All right. Mr Harrison?
- You could fit it
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at the beginning of next week, my lord.
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- Monday?
- Hmm.
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All right, Monday? Monday it is.
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But, my lord, that hardly gives us
time enough to assemble our witnesses.
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You must have known of this possibility,
Mrs Channing. Do your best.
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10:00, Monday.
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USHER: All rise.
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Ask Mrs Mills to join me
in chambers, would you, Coop?
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Just Mrs Mills, Judge?
277
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Mrs Channing's not going to be
interested in the Iraqi widow, is she?
278
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Mrs Mills, the Judge wants a word.
279
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- Is it a summons or a request?
- Oh, it's a request.
280
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Well, perhaps he's going to offer you
something to win you back.
281
00:17:38,793 --> 00:17:42,627
George, he has more chance
of winning you back.
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- (KNOCKING ON DOOR)
- Yeah.
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- Mrs Mills, Judge.
- Do you want some tea?
284
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Got a lot of work to get ready
before Monday.
285
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Thanks, Coop.
286
00:17:56,993 --> 00:18:00,143
How's Michael? Mimi misses him.
287
00:18:01,033 --> 00:18:02,872
He's involved in so many
activities at school,
288
00:18:02,873 --> 00:18:05,272
getting home at the weekend
seems like a distraction.
289
00:18:05,273 --> 00:18:07,523
Doesn't he like going home?
290
00:18:08,633 --> 00:18:10,633
What's this about, John?
291
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Have you heard from Mrs Hussein,
292
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the widow of a former minister
in the Iraqi Government?
293
00:18:17,393 --> 00:18:18,472
Should I have?
294
00:18:18,473 --> 00:18:20,992
She's written to prominent lawyers
looking for abstract justice.
295
00:18:20,993 --> 00:18:22,752
She wants to sue the Government
296
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over the use of depleted uranium
in shells in Iraq.
297
00:18:27,153 --> 00:18:30,912
- You're an obvious choice.
- Well, clearly not obvious enough.
298
00:18:30,913 --> 00:18:32,792
Come on. You're hardly an unknown.
299
00:18:32,793 --> 00:18:37,032
Then how come I'm not the youngest
High Court judge on the bench?
300
00:18:37,033 --> 00:18:40,152
Perhaps I chose the wrong person
to sleep with.
301
00:18:40,153 --> 00:18:41,792
But you were never
very good at choosing.
302
00:18:41,793 --> 00:18:43,192
Well, who pursued me
when I was his pupil,
303
00:18:43,193 --> 00:18:45,352
even when my husband was dying?
304
00:18:45,353 --> 00:18:48,032
Well, I feel guilty about that,
but I don't regret it.
305
00:18:48,033 --> 00:18:50,232
No, you said regret was a waste of life.
306
00:18:50,233 --> 00:18:55,233
I do regret how I treated you.
I wish I could put that right.
307
00:18:57,193 --> 00:18:58,512
I am still in love with you.
308
00:18:58,513 --> 00:19:02,072
No, John, you're pursuing something
you can no longer have,
309
00:19:02,073 --> 00:19:05,072
whilst pursuing someone
you obviously can.
310
00:19:05,073 --> 00:19:06,183
Ouch.
311
00:19:09,633 --> 00:19:15,263
Jo, I will carry on loving you
no matter what you do, or I do.
312
00:19:22,353 --> 00:19:25,392
Don't, John, please. It's not just Marc
I have to think about,
313
00:19:25,393 --> 00:19:26,512
there's Michael, too.
314
00:19:26,513 --> 00:19:28,352
We could start again.
We could do it better.
315
00:19:28,353 --> 00:19:29,623
No, John.
316
00:19:30,913 --> 00:19:34,663
It's too late.
I am marrying Michael's father.
317
00:19:36,473 --> 00:19:38,112
Would you read Mrs Hussein's file?
318
00:19:38,113 --> 00:19:41,530
- I haven't got time. I need a life.
- Jo.
319
00:19:42,833 --> 00:19:44,503
This is your life.
320
00:19:54,513 --> 00:19:56,912
So will your neurosurgeon
actually give evidence for us?
321
00:19:56,913 --> 00:19:58,032
Yeah, I'm sure he will.
322
00:19:58,033 --> 00:20:01,033
Well, I need all the help I can get.
323
00:20:01,113 --> 00:20:04,552
It's going to be hard to prove
phone masts cause Motor Neurone Disease.
324
00:20:04,553 --> 00:20:07,312
- Did Mr Mansridge tell you that?
- No, of course not.
325
00:20:07,313 --> 00:20:09,432
Why... Why are you
putting these plates out?
326
00:20:09,433 --> 00:20:10,592
Oh, did you want to eat out?
327
00:20:10,593 --> 00:20:12,632
No, I don't want this china used!
328
00:20:12,633 --> 00:20:13,752
Why? Is there something wrong with them?
329
00:20:13,753 --> 00:20:17,103
Jo! You constantly question what I ask.
330
00:20:17,193 --> 00:20:19,792
It's like I'm being cross-examined
by you the whole time.
331
00:20:19,793 --> 00:20:22,792
- No, I wasn't doing that.
- I asked you not to use them.
332
00:20:22,793 --> 00:20:26,943
- Marc, what's wrong?
- It's just the two of us.
333
00:20:27,033 --> 00:20:28,312
Aren't the boys home tonight?
334
00:20:28,313 --> 00:20:32,392
No, they had to do something at school.
I did tell you.
335
00:20:32,393 --> 00:20:35,623
We lead such busy lives.
336
00:20:37,553 --> 00:20:40,137
What's wrong? You are so tense.
337
00:20:40,553 --> 00:20:43,720
- Nothing.
- Is it something I've done?
338
00:20:44,273 --> 00:20:45,303
No.
339
00:20:47,393 --> 00:20:49,303
(EXHALES) I may...
340
00:20:51,113 --> 00:20:52,792
I may have to go back to South Africa,
341
00:20:52,793 --> 00:20:56,432
answer questions about some procedures
I helped pioneer.
342
00:20:56,433 --> 00:20:58,433
What sort of procedures?
343
00:21:02,313 --> 00:21:03,663
Can I help?
344
00:21:05,153 --> 00:21:09,237
No, it's nothing, really,
it's just stupid people.
345
00:21:11,753 --> 00:21:12,903
Sorry.
346
00:21:19,513 --> 00:21:25,680
Uh, justice may demand that Mrs Hussein
gets a hearing in an English court,
347
00:21:26,193 --> 00:21:29,872
which she has no hope in hell of
doing so, not even with you pushing it.
348
00:21:29,873 --> 00:21:32,152
It won't stop me trying, Joe.
349
00:21:32,153 --> 00:21:36,272
Yeah, but the cost to the Government,
should she win, would be colossal.
350
00:21:36,273 --> 00:21:37,992
And what's that got to do with justice?
351
00:21:37,993 --> 00:21:39,783
Well, when hasn't it?
352
00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:43,872
If the use of depleted uranium
is as extensive as she claims,
353
00:21:43,873 --> 00:21:46,632
then the whole area
would be contaminated.
354
00:21:46,633 --> 00:21:52,712
Those radioactive particles have a half
life of four and a half billion years.
355
00:21:52,713 --> 00:21:56,552
Well, the present government expects
to be in office that long.
356
00:21:56,553 --> 00:21:59,672
Yeah, well, there is
favourable jurisprudence here.
357
00:21:59,673 --> 00:22:02,183
Uh, the Rachel Lubbe case.
358
00:22:02,273 --> 00:22:04,952
The defendant in that case controlled,
from England,
359
00:22:04,953 --> 00:22:09,072
the actions of those running
the asbestos mines in South Africa.
360
00:22:09,073 --> 00:22:12,863
If Mrs Hussein can prove,
as Mrs Lubbe did,
361
00:22:12,953 --> 00:22:17,792
that substantial justice would
not be done in the local jurisdiction,
362
00:22:17,793 --> 00:22:22,503
then England can be ruled
the forum conveniens.
363
00:22:23,673 --> 00:22:28,343
But it'd be a long, hard
legal wrangle, John.
364
00:22:28,433 --> 00:22:31,850
- It might be worth trying, though.
- Yes.
365
00:22:37,753 --> 00:22:39,543
- Jo?
- Hmm?
366
00:22:39,633 --> 00:22:43,050
- It's gone 2:00.
- Yeah, I'm almost done.
367
00:22:43,833 --> 00:22:46,872
You can't push yourself like this
the whole time.
368
00:22:46,873 --> 00:22:49,192
This Iraqi woman lost her entire family.
369
00:22:49,193 --> 00:22:50,992
She wants the British use
of depleted uranium
370
00:22:50,993 --> 00:22:53,392
to be publicly reviewed in court.
371
00:22:53,393 --> 00:22:55,977
Well, it won't bring them back.
372
00:22:56,713 --> 00:22:57,743
No.
373
00:22:58,353 --> 00:23:03,583
Darling, I'm always concerned
for how this will exhaust you.
374
00:23:04,193 --> 00:23:08,632
Why don't you think about yourself more,
maybe take on less work?
375
00:23:08,633 --> 00:23:11,800
Especially with our wedding coming up.
376
00:23:11,913 --> 00:23:15,103
Yes, I will. I promise you.
377
00:23:24,793 --> 00:23:28,392
CHARLIE: Unreal. Breakfast at 9:00
on a Saturday.
378
00:23:28,393 --> 00:23:31,672
You never used to get out of bed before
midday when you were a teenager. Thanks.
379
00:23:31,673 --> 00:23:33,153
I still don't.
380
00:23:37,593 --> 00:23:40,432
How's that stalking barrister of yours?
381
00:23:40,433 --> 00:23:41,753
He's okay.
382
00:23:42,833 --> 00:23:47,632
I don't want a serious relationship
right now. He'd be competition.
383
00:23:47,633 --> 00:23:50,883
How's it going with you and dame Morag?
384
00:23:51,593 --> 00:23:55,792
Nothing's gonna change with you and Jo,
Dad, until you change.
385
00:23:55,793 --> 00:23:58,383
I remain eternally optimistic.
386
00:23:58,473 --> 00:23:59,953
On what basis?
387
00:24:02,473 --> 00:24:05,557
You going to do this research for me?
388
00:24:06,193 --> 00:24:11,112
Why not? I've only got three cases
I'm running and no social life.
389
00:24:11,113 --> 00:24:14,232
- You're too conscientious.
- How can you not be, Dad?
390
00:24:14,233 --> 00:24:15,672
Well, most barristers recognise
391
00:24:15,673 --> 00:24:18,432
that 85% of their clients
who get to court are guilty.
392
00:24:18,433 --> 00:24:19,752
- You didn't.
- Yeah, well,
393
00:24:19,753 --> 00:24:22,432
I didn't have a social life, either.
394
00:24:22,433 --> 00:24:25,912
And here I am agreeing to help
a potential litigant access to justice
395
00:24:25,913 --> 00:24:28,663
like there's a shortage of cases.
396
00:24:28,713 --> 00:24:30,232
I get it from you, then.
397
00:24:30,233 --> 00:24:32,392
Well, you could have been like your mum.
398
00:24:32,393 --> 00:24:36,273
Well thought of, well placed, well paid.
399
00:24:36,353 --> 00:24:39,312
Yeah, but she's not happy, though,
is she?
400
00:24:39,313 --> 00:24:43,730
I'd be surprised if she was,
living with a politician.
401
00:24:43,953 --> 00:24:45,787
I'll do your research.
402
00:24:45,873 --> 00:24:51,040
On the internet, in the small hours,
instead of going clubbing.
403
00:24:58,233 --> 00:25:00,423
- Michael?
- Yeah?
404
00:25:00,513 --> 00:25:02,352
That's pretty impressive.
405
00:25:02,353 --> 00:25:04,632
Could you live in one of those?
406
00:25:04,633 --> 00:25:05,743
Yeah.
407
00:25:07,233 --> 00:25:09,317
Are you glad you're back?
408
00:25:09,393 --> 00:25:13,072
School's much better.
England seems very crowded.
409
00:25:13,073 --> 00:25:14,312
Huh, it's gonna get worse.
410
00:25:14,313 --> 00:25:16,992
The Government wants to build
another four million houses.
411
00:25:16,993 --> 00:25:22,072
They can build them in South Africa.
There's loads of room there.
412
00:25:22,073 --> 00:25:25,112
Michael, do your brothers
ever talk about their mother?
413
00:25:25,113 --> 00:25:27,363
No, they're not allowed to.
414
00:25:27,673 --> 00:25:30,590
- Why not?
- She did leave them, Jo.
415
00:25:30,753 --> 00:25:34,263
Hmm. Do they miss her?
416
00:25:34,353 --> 00:25:36,603
Best not to talk about her.
417
00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:44,752
- How serious are you at Scrabble?
- Well, we can beat Dad.
418
00:25:44,753 --> 00:25:47,553
So can I. We mustn't go in there.
419
00:25:47,633 --> 00:25:50,872
- Why? It's the sitting room.
- Dad doesn't like us in his room.
420
00:25:50,873 --> 00:25:54,152
- Well, we'll be very tidy.
- He doesn't want us to.
421
00:25:54,153 --> 00:25:59,392
He says there has to be one room
in the house that doesn't get messed up.
422
00:25:59,393 --> 00:26:02,227
I'll take responsibility. Come on.
423
00:26:10,313 --> 00:26:11,743
Come on, you.
424
00:26:16,673 --> 00:26:18,592
Is the Lord Chancellor joining us?
425
00:26:18,593 --> 00:26:22,232
He hopes to shortly,
along with the Lord Chief Justice.
426
00:26:22,233 --> 00:26:25,632
Well, the Chief is really the
only person who can remove Deed.
427
00:26:25,633 --> 00:26:27,550
From this current case?
428
00:26:27,593 --> 00:26:30,072
You know he can't do that,
Home Secretary.
429
00:26:30,073 --> 00:26:34,232
The Home Office has spent 2.6 billion
on this phone system.
430
00:26:34,233 --> 00:26:37,752
We hope to recoup some of this
by selling it to police forces abroad.
431
00:26:37,753 --> 00:26:42,072
If there's a huge negative impact
from this case, we won't be able to.
432
00:26:42,073 --> 00:26:44,912
Well, worse still, Ian, if the system
is flawed, it will have to be removed.
433
00:26:44,913 --> 00:26:46,913
The system isn't flawed.
434
00:26:47,633 --> 00:26:49,832
Yeah, well, there are questions.
435
00:26:49,833 --> 00:26:53,632
No, it's in court because of
the perversity of our judges.
436
00:26:53,633 --> 00:26:56,050
The case has some merit, sir.
437
00:26:56,113 --> 00:26:58,352
Isn't this meeting to ensure it hasn't?
438
00:26:58,353 --> 00:27:02,192
If you pressure Deed, Percy,
he does the opposite to what you want.
439
00:27:02,193 --> 00:27:05,032
I thought Deed was in a
compromised position
440
00:27:05,033 --> 00:27:07,992
for failing to report his daughter
to the Bar Council.
441
00:27:07,993 --> 00:27:10,712
It's a minor peccadillo, Home Secretary.
442
00:27:10,713 --> 00:27:12,033
Oh, is it?
443
00:27:14,953 --> 00:27:19,552
We should discuss Mr Justice Deed's
long and medium-term future, sir.
444
00:27:19,553 --> 00:27:22,792
Neither of which helps the Home Office
over its current predicament.
445
00:27:22,793 --> 00:27:24,832
Well, it might for future crises, Percy.
446
00:27:24,833 --> 00:27:29,083
What we need is for the courts
to function smoothly.
447
00:27:29,913 --> 00:27:31,392
Then the proposal is?
448
00:27:31,393 --> 00:27:34,032
In the medium term, sir,
it might be very convenient
449
00:27:34,033 --> 00:27:38,392
if by chance Sir John were to be
called for jury service.
450
00:27:38,393 --> 00:27:40,227
Is this quite serious?
451
00:27:40,953 --> 00:27:43,472
I mean, that would only tie him up
for a fortnight.
452
00:27:43,473 --> 00:27:46,890
And isn't selection supposed
to be random?
453
00:27:47,193 --> 00:27:48,432
Yes, it is, sir.
454
00:27:48,433 --> 00:27:54,850
The right sort of trial, however, could
last a lot, lot longer than two weeks.
455
00:27:55,553 --> 00:27:56,720
And long-term?
456
00:27:56,753 --> 00:27:58,632
Send him off to The Hague
to represent our side
457
00:27:58,633 --> 00:28:00,672
at one of the War Crimes Tribunals.
458
00:28:00,673 --> 00:28:03,352
Where he causes as many problems.
459
00:28:03,353 --> 00:28:05,312
Then they'd be for the
Foreign Office to deal with.
460
00:28:05,313 --> 00:28:07,432
My problem is current, Ian.
461
00:28:07,433 --> 00:28:10,432
The master of the rolls feels
Mr Justice Deed must be bound
462
00:28:10,433 --> 00:28:13,832
by the Appeal Court's ruling
in the previous phone masts case.
463
00:28:13,833 --> 00:28:17,632
Ah, if Deed was constrained by rules
and judicial precedence,
464
00:28:17,633 --> 00:28:20,383
I'd feel encouraged, Mr James.
465
00:28:21,193 --> 00:28:22,863
He never has been.
466
00:28:22,953 --> 00:28:25,672
JAMES: Then he would be appealed, sir.
467
00:28:25,673 --> 00:28:28,340
This had better not go that far.
468
00:28:28,353 --> 00:28:32,937
Send me an email with the
Lord Chancellor's view. Percy.
469
00:28:41,753 --> 00:28:43,343
DEED: Mrs Mills.
470
00:28:43,433 --> 00:28:45,312
With your leave,
because of Mrs Bridges' frail health,
471
00:28:45,313 --> 00:28:47,152
I'd like to call her before the experts.
472
00:28:47,153 --> 00:28:48,263
Sure.
473
00:28:48,913 --> 00:28:51,552
Are you Gillian Bridges
of 64 Harbury House
474
00:28:51,553 --> 00:28:53,712
and are you a computer operator?
475
00:28:53,713 --> 00:28:56,543
Yes, but I can't work.
476
00:28:56,993 --> 00:28:59,272
Can you tell the court
what happened to you?
477
00:28:59,273 --> 00:29:02,023
About three and a half years ago,
478
00:29:02,033 --> 00:29:06,383
I began to feel drained, so tired.
479
00:29:07,673 --> 00:29:10,912
Eventually, I could barely
get out of bed.
480
00:29:10,913 --> 00:29:12,352
What did your doctor say?
481
00:29:12,353 --> 00:29:17,223
He thought it was chronic fatigue.
Then later, ME.
482
00:29:18,593 --> 00:29:20,593
Then my husband got ill.
483
00:29:20,953 --> 00:29:25,583
He was a policeman,
so he was always physically fit.
484
00:29:26,153 --> 00:29:28,237
But he kept feeling sick.
485
00:29:28,913 --> 00:29:31,663
The doctors found stomach cancer.
486
00:29:32,313 --> 00:29:36,552
Can you recall any incident
that caused a life change?
487
00:29:36,553 --> 00:29:39,053
The mast they put on our roof.
488
00:29:39,673 --> 00:29:41,393
Four years ago now.
489
00:29:41,793 --> 00:29:44,432
That was the start
of everyone's troubles.
490
00:29:44,433 --> 00:29:45,552
What happened?
491
00:29:45,553 --> 00:29:50,637
The council sold the roof space
to One-Way, the phone company.
492
00:29:51,073 --> 00:29:55,952
They had a contract to put in
this TETRA system for the police.
493
00:29:55,953 --> 00:30:01,272
- Were you warned about this?
- No. They didn't ask our permission.
494
00:30:01,273 --> 00:30:06,392
- Was there no sort of consultation?
- The council said it was legal.
495
00:30:06,393 --> 00:30:10,983
- Do you own your flat?
- Yes. 24 others do, too.
496
00:30:11,633 --> 00:30:14,633
But the council hold the head lease.
497
00:30:14,673 --> 00:30:16,313
I see. Thank you.
498
00:30:16,633 --> 00:30:20,752
Mrs Bridges, did you notice any changes
following the siting of the mast?
499
00:30:20,753 --> 00:30:23,752
When the phone company switched it on,
500
00:30:23,753 --> 00:30:27,423
it was like suddenly
I was shocked awake.
501
00:30:28,233 --> 00:30:31,233
It happened dozens of times a night.
502
00:30:31,713 --> 00:30:33,512
Did it affect anyone else
in the building?
503
00:30:33,513 --> 00:30:35,103
Nearly everyone.
504
00:30:35,193 --> 00:30:38,223
And at the school just behind us,
505
00:30:38,313 --> 00:30:40,903
23 children were sent home
506
00:30:40,993 --> 00:30:45,543
with headaches, dizziness
and nosebleeds
507
00:30:45,633 --> 00:30:48,552
in the first week
the mast was switched on.
508
00:30:48,553 --> 00:30:51,792
Did they know that the mast
had been switched on?
509
00:30:51,793 --> 00:30:52,823
No.
510
00:30:53,553 --> 00:30:55,463
No one warned them.
511
00:30:56,433 --> 00:30:58,023
When we complained,
512
00:30:58,113 --> 00:31:03,613
the council's Health and Safety Officer
said the mast was harmless.
513
00:31:04,073 --> 00:31:07,192
The police were using them
up and down the country.
514
00:31:07,193 --> 00:31:10,193
"They were perfectly safe," he said.
515
00:31:11,673 --> 00:31:12,993
Thank you.
516
00:31:13,673 --> 00:31:16,592
Did your husband use this system
when he was a policeman?
517
00:31:16,593 --> 00:31:21,023
Yes. A lot of officers
had similar symptoms.
518
00:31:21,753 --> 00:31:25,337
Jake started doing research
on the internet.
519
00:31:25,833 --> 00:31:31,417
He found that the Police Federation
had commissioned its own report.
520
00:31:31,993 --> 00:31:36,063
Policemen weren't just getting ill,
three died.
521
00:31:36,153 --> 00:31:38,152
Not just from the masts,
522
00:31:38,153 --> 00:31:41,312
but from the receivers
they carried on their belts.
523
00:31:41,313 --> 00:31:45,783
Mrs Bridges, we don't know
if that is so, do we?
524
00:31:47,033 --> 00:31:49,367
Unless you have clear proof?
525
00:31:50,353 --> 00:31:51,383
No.
526
00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:55,912
Did the Federation publish its report?
527
00:31:55,913 --> 00:31:58,023
They sat on it,
528
00:31:58,113 --> 00:32:00,952
- under pressure from the Home Office.
- Ah...
529
00:32:00,953 --> 00:32:04,112
Do you know that for a fact,
Mrs Bridges?
530
00:32:04,113 --> 00:32:05,143
No.
531
00:32:05,793 --> 00:32:07,632
But we think that's what happened.
532
00:32:07,633 --> 00:32:11,912
You see, that might prove the case,
but unless you show it so,
533
00:32:11,913 --> 00:32:17,392
I can't make any use of it when I come
to make my judgement, you see?
534
00:32:17,393 --> 00:32:18,543
Go on.
535
00:32:19,393 --> 00:32:21,393
Did you read the report?
536
00:32:30,273 --> 00:32:31,343
Yes.
537
00:32:31,833 --> 00:32:33,392
Do you want to take a rest,
Mrs Bridges?
538
00:32:33,393 --> 00:32:34,423
No.
539
00:32:37,513 --> 00:32:40,592
Mrs Bridges, what was it in that report
540
00:32:40,593 --> 00:32:42,552
that you thought the Home Office
wanted to suppress?
541
00:32:42,553 --> 00:32:43,553
My lord...
542
00:32:43,633 --> 00:32:46,472
Well, fortunately we don't
have an impressionable jury,
543
00:32:46,473 --> 00:32:48,223
do we, Mrs Channing?
544
00:32:49,073 --> 00:32:51,240
But be careful, Mrs Mills.
545
00:32:54,553 --> 00:32:55,953
Mrs Bridges?
546
00:32:56,273 --> 00:32:59,263
It said that this government,
547
00:33:00,313 --> 00:33:03,663
its scientists and the phone industry
548
00:33:04,553 --> 00:33:08,223
will be responsible
for more civilian deaths
549
00:33:08,313 --> 00:33:10,230
- in peacetime...
- Hey?
550
00:33:10,553 --> 00:33:14,887
...than all the terrorist organisations
put together.
551
00:33:20,593 --> 00:33:23,663
Mrs Bridges, before you fell ill,
552
00:33:23,753 --> 00:33:27,920
did you work at home on a computer
or in an office?
553
00:33:28,033 --> 00:33:31,023
Both. Mostly at an office.
554
00:33:31,793 --> 00:33:35,127
Was it a big office with many computers?
555
00:33:35,473 --> 00:33:37,193
About 30 or so.
556
00:33:37,633 --> 00:33:39,832
And how long did you work there?
557
00:33:39,833 --> 00:33:41,943
About seven years,
558
00:33:42,393 --> 00:33:45,560
until illness forced me to give it up.
559
00:33:46,753 --> 00:33:51,952
Did you ever come across a report
by Professor Ian Kennedy Martin,
560
00:33:51,953 --> 00:33:57,153
low-level frequency radiation,
the sort emitted from computers,
561
00:33:57,553 --> 00:34:03,343
indeed by television sets,
light bulbs, electrical wiring?
562
00:34:04,033 --> 00:34:05,063
No.
563
00:34:05,673 --> 00:34:07,432
Well, if you had, Mrs Bridges,
564
00:34:07,433 --> 00:34:12,583
and before you were made aware
of TETRA phone masts,
565
00:34:13,033 --> 00:34:16,232
you might be suing
the computer manufacturer
566
00:34:16,233 --> 00:34:18,400
or even your ex-employers.
567
00:34:19,433 --> 00:34:22,672
Professor Kennedy Martin
ascribes to computer use
568
00:34:22,673 --> 00:34:27,507
all the symptoms that you ascribe
to a harmless phone mast.
569
00:34:34,433 --> 00:34:37,152
Mrs Mills returned the Mrs Hussein file.
570
00:34:37,153 --> 00:34:39,183
She said she's too busy.
571
00:34:39,273 --> 00:34:42,607
- Has she gone?
- She was on her way out.
572
00:34:49,593 --> 00:34:51,023
George?
573
00:34:55,473 --> 00:34:57,973
Was your day better than mine?
574
00:34:58,033 --> 00:35:00,232
The victim was in the witness box.
575
00:35:00,233 --> 00:35:04,032
Fortunately, we don't have a jury
and the medical evidence
576
00:35:04,033 --> 00:35:07,432
can't prove the source
of Motor Neurone Disease.
577
00:35:07,433 --> 00:35:09,552
You have to win this, George.
578
00:35:09,553 --> 00:35:11,912
I've spent an awful lot of taxpayers'
money on this phone system
579
00:35:11,913 --> 00:35:13,392
and I'm going to have
to spend an awful lot more
580
00:35:13,393 --> 00:35:16,472
getting it right if it goes pear-shaped.
581
00:35:16,473 --> 00:35:18,312
It's not just the money.
582
00:35:18,313 --> 00:35:22,112
It'd look like we don't care
about our policemen or anyone else.
583
00:35:22,113 --> 00:35:25,792
Well, there's no research
that says these masts are dangerous.
584
00:35:25,793 --> 00:35:28,377
None says they're safe, either.
585
00:35:33,153 --> 00:35:35,712
You'd better shower and change
or we'll be late.
586
00:35:35,713 --> 00:35:38,272
Oh, I don't know if I want to go.
587
00:35:38,273 --> 00:35:42,583
I've spent rather a lot on a new dress!
588
00:35:52,273 --> 00:35:54,432
He's dying to see you. There's Monty.
589
00:35:54,433 --> 00:35:56,952
Ah, Monty.
Nice to see one friendly face.
590
00:35:56,953 --> 00:35:59,272
Ah, you're the guest of honour.
591
00:35:59,273 --> 00:36:01,232
I didn't give these people the pay rise
they wanted.
592
00:36:01,233 --> 00:36:04,312
Oh, I'm sure
they don't blame you, darling.
593
00:36:04,313 --> 00:36:05,713
Hello, Vera.
594
00:36:09,913 --> 00:36:12,912
- Did someone paint that dress on you?
- Oh!
595
00:36:12,913 --> 00:36:17,997
To think, I once had a figure like that
before I had children.
596
00:36:18,953 --> 00:36:20,232
Is anyone getting a drink
597
00:36:20,233 --> 00:36:24,032
or are we all going to be breathalysed
when we get out of here?
598
00:36:24,033 --> 00:36:27,232
I mean, it's all right for you.
You've still got your official car.
599
00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:29,032
Well, I don't drink alcohol, Monty.
600
00:36:29,033 --> 00:36:30,623
Well, we do.
601
00:36:30,713 --> 00:36:31,903
Oh.
602
00:36:32,833 --> 00:36:35,072
- There we are, Vera...
- Hmm.
603
00:36:35,073 --> 00:36:36,223
Monty.
604
00:36:36,553 --> 00:36:40,703
Oh, don't go. Thank you.
605
00:36:41,993 --> 00:36:44,143
Oh, Tim! How nice.
606
00:36:44,753 --> 00:36:45,943
George.
607
00:36:47,833 --> 00:36:50,472
You look like
you've just stepped off the catwalk.
608
00:36:50,473 --> 00:36:53,272
Well, I could stand here
and listen to this all evening.
609
00:36:53,273 --> 00:36:54,673
Is Neil here?
610
00:36:54,753 --> 00:36:55,863
Hmm?
611
00:36:55,953 --> 00:36:58,432
I suppose he's had to play the host.
612
00:36:58,433 --> 00:37:00,832
The Home Office
are paying for this, after all.
613
00:37:00,833 --> 00:37:03,072
Oh, I thought my company was.
614
00:37:03,073 --> 00:37:06,323
Hmm. Well, the champagne
is rather good.
615
00:37:06,873 --> 00:37:10,432
Uh, you know Monty and Vera Everard,
Tim Listfield.
616
00:37:10,433 --> 00:37:13,312
Yeah. Uh, if you'll excuse me, George.
617
00:37:13,313 --> 00:37:14,912
Hmm. What's got into him, Vera?
618
00:37:14,913 --> 00:37:16,703
I'll go and find out.
619
00:37:20,233 --> 00:37:22,192
How's your case going, George?
620
00:37:22,193 --> 00:37:24,223
Oh. Early days.
621
00:37:25,433 --> 00:37:27,992
My company stands to lose
a lot of money.
622
00:37:27,993 --> 00:37:30,993
You know we're in front of the Deed?
623
00:37:31,513 --> 00:37:32,743
Deja vu.
624
00:37:32,833 --> 00:37:34,583
Hardly, Tim.
625
00:37:35,953 --> 00:37:37,593
Gosh, I miss you.
626
00:37:39,073 --> 00:37:41,352
Would you like to have dinner one night?
627
00:37:41,353 --> 00:37:42,913
What? Just me?
628
00:37:43,713 --> 00:37:45,303
Would Neil care?
629
00:37:46,393 --> 00:37:49,727
Well, that depends
what you have in mind.
630
00:37:50,193 --> 00:37:51,943
I'd better find him.
631
00:38:00,313 --> 00:38:03,152
I'm surprised you've got the nerve
to turn up, Tim.
632
00:38:03,153 --> 00:38:06,392
The Home Office had the nerve
to ask my company to pay.
633
00:38:06,393 --> 00:38:08,310
Oh, I didn't know that.
634
00:38:08,393 --> 00:38:10,977
I thought it was rapprochement.
635
00:38:11,033 --> 00:38:16,312
There is a sensitive case going on
involving One-Way's phone system.
636
00:38:16,313 --> 00:38:19,072
Well, neither my company
nor the Home Office is being sued.
637
00:38:19,073 --> 00:38:21,832
Your company installed the system
for the police.
638
00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:25,083
It could track back to you and me, Tim.
639
00:38:26,713 --> 00:38:28,880
We should talk about that.
640
00:38:29,633 --> 00:38:31,352
Let's have breakfast.
641
00:38:31,353 --> 00:38:33,603
Home Secretary. Hello, Tim.
642
00:38:34,393 --> 00:38:35,992
He's wanted, is he, Percy?
643
00:38:35,993 --> 00:38:37,503
They are ready.
644
00:38:37,953 --> 00:38:41,703
I'll have my assistant
fix up a meeting, Neil.
645
00:38:43,633 --> 00:38:45,633
Do you want to meet him?
646
00:38:46,033 --> 00:38:47,783
I'll think about it.
647
00:38:54,953 --> 00:38:57,632
Right. Mrs Mills, come with me, please.
648
00:38:57,633 --> 00:39:02,552
- Well, just give me a minute.
- No, no, this won't wait. Come on.
649
00:39:02,553 --> 00:39:03,903
Okay.
650
00:39:12,593 --> 00:39:14,760
How do we like our towels?
651
00:39:15,553 --> 00:39:17,387
Clean. Fresh-smelling.
652
00:39:17,473 --> 00:39:22,503
Neatly folded.
Yours and mine in their own places.
653
00:39:23,993 --> 00:39:25,632
Is it to do with hygiene?
654
00:39:25,633 --> 00:39:27,872
Well, cross-infection in hospital
can be devastating.
655
00:39:27,873 --> 00:39:29,232
- But Marc...
- Hmm.
656
00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:30,872
We're not in hospital.
657
00:39:30,873 --> 00:39:34,623
See, now you're being a lawyer,
argumentative.
658
00:39:36,673 --> 00:39:39,752
Why don't we celebrate
our differences? Hmm?
659
00:39:39,753 --> 00:39:40,863
Okay.
660
00:40:01,513 --> 00:40:04,312
Marc, the other day when I was
playing Scrabble with the boys...
661
00:40:04,313 --> 00:40:05,512
- Mmm-hmm.
- ...they wouldn't go
662
00:40:05,513 --> 00:40:07,632
into the sitting room.
They said it was your room.
663
00:40:07,633 --> 00:40:11,383
Yeah. That's right.
It's a sanctuary of order.
664
00:40:12,113 --> 00:40:14,673
Marc, the whole house is.
665
00:40:14,753 --> 00:40:16,352
What's this, a speech for the defence?
666
00:40:16,353 --> 00:40:18,792
Look, children need boundaries.
667
00:40:18,793 --> 00:40:21,627
Better off with them, aren't they?
668
00:40:22,993 --> 00:40:24,313
I suppose.
669
00:40:25,113 --> 00:40:28,030
They are well-behaved, I grant you.
670
00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:39,267
I've got a really,
really early start tomorrow.
671
00:40:51,073 --> 00:40:52,663
USHER: All rise.
672
00:40:59,233 --> 00:41:00,713
Mrs Mills.
673
00:41:01,713 --> 00:41:04,552
I'm afraid Mrs Bridges
is not well enough to be recalled.
674
00:41:04,553 --> 00:41:06,592
Is she likely to be well enough
in the near future?
675
00:41:06,593 --> 00:41:10,592
Well, her lungs are collapsing
due to her chest muscles wasting.
676
00:41:10,593 --> 00:41:14,032
- We might have a result there.
- I think we might.
677
00:41:14,033 --> 00:41:15,512
Do you have another witness available?
678
00:41:15,513 --> 00:41:19,847
Yes, Professor Richard Brams.
He's emeritus professor
679
00:41:19,873 --> 00:41:22,912
of Molecular Neurology
at Oxford University.
680
00:41:22,913 --> 00:41:26,913
- A leading expert?
- He is. He may not admit it.
681
00:41:28,593 --> 00:41:31,512
Professor Brams, have you
read the May 2000 report
682
00:41:31,513 --> 00:41:34,912
of the Independent Expert Group
on mobile phones and health,
683
00:41:34,913 --> 00:41:36,712
- the Stewart report?
- You know I've read it
684
00:41:36,713 --> 00:41:38,630
and what I think of it.
685
00:41:39,033 --> 00:41:40,912
Nevertheless, Professor,
can you open your bundle?
686
00:41:40,913 --> 00:41:43,143
It's bundle C, item three.
687
00:41:48,273 --> 00:41:51,992
I don't think any more of it
than I did when it was written.
688
00:41:51,993 --> 00:41:54,410
Less, in fact, on reflection.
689
00:41:54,873 --> 00:41:58,312
- Why is that?
- This technology moves on daily,
690
00:41:58,313 --> 00:42:00,832
- the Stewart report hasn't.
- Are you saying it's out of date?
691
00:42:00,833 --> 00:42:04,592
It is. There was useful information
in the report,
692
00:42:04,593 --> 00:42:06,263
mostly hidden.
693
00:42:07,113 --> 00:42:10,192
The report basically says
that mobile phones are safe to use.
694
00:42:10,193 --> 00:42:11,303
They're not.
695
00:42:11,393 --> 00:42:15,432
Uh, phone masts are more dangerous,
TETRA masts more dangerous still...
696
00:42:15,433 --> 00:42:17,032
In your opinion, Professor.
697
00:42:17,033 --> 00:42:20,033
Yes, everything I say is my opinion.
698
00:42:23,073 --> 00:42:27,952
Why are TETRA masts so dangerous,
uh, your opinion, Professor?
699
00:42:27,953 --> 00:42:32,783
Because pulsed electromagnetic waves
at 17.6 megahertz
700
00:42:32,873 --> 00:42:35,032
interfere with our natural brain rhythm.
701
00:42:35,033 --> 00:42:39,912
Even Stewart warned against
using any communication instruments
702
00:42:39,913 --> 00:42:44,223
that pulse above 16 megahertz
for that very reason.
703
00:42:44,713 --> 00:42:46,952
Have you examined the mast
on top of Harbury House?
704
00:42:46,953 --> 00:42:48,513
You know I did.
705
00:42:48,593 --> 00:42:52,912
Yes, Professor. Can you tell the court
what type of mast it is?
706
00:42:52,913 --> 00:42:58,983
Yeah. It's a TETRA mast
pulsating at 17.6 megahertz.
707
00:42:59,313 --> 00:43:03,712
In excess of the 16 megahertz
advised by the Stewart Committee.
708
00:43:03,713 --> 00:43:07,343
Hmm. 17.6 is in excess of 16!
709
00:43:12,393 --> 00:43:13,792
What happens to people
710
00:43:13,793 --> 00:43:17,472
when they're exposed
to this sort of electromagnetic pulse?
711
00:43:17,473 --> 00:43:21,312
I don't know. All people are different.
They react in different ways.
712
00:43:21,313 --> 00:43:23,872
If you want to ask me what's likely,
713
00:43:23,873 --> 00:43:27,952
a great deal of cellular change
takes place in the brain
714
00:43:27,953 --> 00:43:30,112
to people living near a mast.
715
00:43:30,113 --> 00:43:31,952
Are these changes beneficial?
716
00:43:31,953 --> 00:43:36,232
There are never beneficial changes
in cells from low-level radiation.
717
00:43:36,233 --> 00:43:39,552
Is exposure to low-level waves
harmful, then?
718
00:43:39,553 --> 00:43:42,432
That's what scientists
are continually arguing about.
719
00:43:42,433 --> 00:43:44,623
Those that are employed
720
00:43:44,713 --> 00:43:47,832
by the manufacturers of this technology
say they're not.
721
00:43:47,833 --> 00:43:52,312
I am of the opinion that low-level
electromagnetic radiation
722
00:43:52,313 --> 00:43:56,663
leads to heart problems,
blood problems, tumours,
723
00:43:56,753 --> 00:44:00,352
calcium interference,
reduction of night-time melatonin.
724
00:44:00,353 --> 00:44:03,272
People sleeping within range
of a TETRA mast,
725
00:44:03,273 --> 00:44:06,072
such as the one
where Mr and Mrs Bridges live,
726
00:44:06,073 --> 00:44:08,272
- could be severely affected.
- Oh.
727
00:44:08,273 --> 00:44:10,352
- Increased arthritis.
- Goodness.
728
00:44:10,353 --> 00:44:13,512
Ear problems, leukaemia,
childhood cancer,
729
00:44:13,513 --> 00:44:15,552
sleep problems, depression...
730
00:44:15,553 --> 00:44:18,472
Is there some difficulty, Mrs Channing?
731
00:44:18,473 --> 00:44:21,743
- No, my lord.
- Hmm. Mrs Mills.
732
00:44:21,833 --> 00:44:23,872
Is all this information well-documented?
733
00:44:23,873 --> 00:44:24,903
It is.
734
00:44:24,993 --> 00:44:28,072
And even more serious
is microwave radiation
735
00:44:28,073 --> 00:44:32,232
changes the permeability
of the blood-brain barrier.
736
00:44:32,233 --> 00:44:34,063
What happens then?
737
00:44:34,473 --> 00:44:39,703
Well, uh, microwaves
affect the particles in the body
738
00:44:39,793 --> 00:44:41,072
by changing their size.
739
00:44:41,073 --> 00:44:44,953
They can change them
both smaller and larger.
740
00:44:45,033 --> 00:44:49,032
By changing the permeability
at the blood-brain barrier
741
00:44:49,033 --> 00:44:51,072
and changing the size of the particles,
742
00:44:51,073 --> 00:44:54,352
unwanted particles
can enter or leave the brain.
743
00:44:54,353 --> 00:44:58,663
It's likely that calcium particles
leaving the brain
744
00:44:58,753 --> 00:45:02,170
caused Mrs Bridges'
Motor Neurone Disease.
745
00:45:05,473 --> 00:45:06,903
Mrs Channing.
746
00:45:10,393 --> 00:45:13,272
Are you an expert
on Motor Neurone Disease, Professor?
747
00:45:13,273 --> 00:45:15,432
I'm expressing an opinion.
748
00:45:15,433 --> 00:45:19,517
Is it not true
that no one knows the cause of MND?
749
00:45:20,193 --> 00:45:25,863
Microwaves change the permeability
of the blood-brain barrier,
750
00:45:25,953 --> 00:45:28,183
calcium efflux results.
751
00:45:28,273 --> 00:45:31,672
That's little more than coincidence,
is it not?
752
00:45:31,673 --> 00:45:35,953
Well, if all these so-called
coincidences are piled
753
00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:37,903
one on top of another,
754
00:45:38,193 --> 00:45:40,912
there comes a point
we have to consider it a fact.
755
00:45:40,913 --> 00:45:44,472
Had you proceeded
with your brain research on that basis,
756
00:45:44,473 --> 00:45:47,792
then tried to get it peer reviewed,
you'd have been laughed at.
757
00:45:47,793 --> 00:45:51,832
That is the only way
a lot of science can go forward,
758
00:45:51,833 --> 00:45:55,383
by hypothesis, by imaginative leaps.
759
00:45:56,713 --> 00:45:59,712
You said, in both oral
and written evidence,
760
00:45:59,713 --> 00:46:03,623
that the mast
on Mr and Mrs Bridges' block
761
00:46:03,713 --> 00:46:05,152
gives off microwaves,
762
00:46:05,153 --> 00:46:10,063
that these can cause damage
in cells, in humans...
763
00:46:10,153 --> 00:46:12,570
And animals. Animals as well.
764
00:46:12,633 --> 00:46:15,792
Police dogs and horses
kept in police stations
765
00:46:15,793 --> 00:46:19,352
where they've got TETRA masts
are adversely affected.
766
00:46:19,353 --> 00:46:21,472
There's no conclusive proof
767
00:46:21,473 --> 00:46:23,872
that microwaves
cause such problems, is there?
768
00:46:23,873 --> 00:46:26,207
What do you call conclusive?
769
00:46:27,153 --> 00:46:29,070
What the courts accept.
770
00:46:29,433 --> 00:46:33,423
Courts of law cannot test
matters of science.
771
00:46:33,513 --> 00:46:35,352
This point has been made time and again.
772
00:46:35,353 --> 00:46:39,512
All courts of law can do
is to accept the opinion of scientists
773
00:46:39,513 --> 00:46:43,263
when we say "an effect
follows a given cause".
774
00:46:43,313 --> 00:46:49,383
It's my opinion that low-level radiation
is bio-accumulative.
775
00:46:49,473 --> 00:46:51,952
What does that mean, Professor?
776
00:46:51,953 --> 00:46:55,512
When massive radiation
hits the cells of a body,
777
00:46:55,513 --> 00:46:58,392
then the immune system
responds with vitamins
778
00:46:58,393 --> 00:47:00,113
to repair the site.
779
00:47:00,313 --> 00:47:05,432
Unfortunately, the immune system
doesn't recognise low-level radiation
780
00:47:05,433 --> 00:47:09,872
which accumulates in the cells,
causing them to break down.
781
00:47:09,873 --> 00:47:14,123
When it does,
it's too late for the body to respond.
782
00:47:14,273 --> 00:47:17,312
Are you saying, then, that everyone
will be adversely affected?
783
00:47:17,313 --> 00:47:20,072
Well, assuming the theory is true.
784
00:47:20,073 --> 00:47:21,872
No, no, no, no. Not necessarily.
785
00:47:21,873 --> 00:47:25,540
Just as not every smoker
dies of lung cancer.
786
00:47:25,673 --> 00:47:29,552
It depends how close you live to a mast
what your susceptibility is.
787
00:47:29,553 --> 00:47:32,552
So, what in your opinion
is the danger zone?
788
00:47:32,553 --> 00:47:36,112
Up to two kilometres.
The closer you are, the more at risk.
789
00:47:36,113 --> 00:47:40,863
This is a theory, Professor.
There is no conclusive proof.
790
00:47:41,353 --> 00:47:44,103
The converse is true, too.
791
00:47:44,593 --> 00:47:49,183
There was conclusive proof
that thalidomide was safe,
792
00:47:49,633 --> 00:47:54,300
that smoking wasn't a problem,
that beef was safe to eat.
793
00:47:54,393 --> 00:47:57,472
The Home Office sought the opinion
of my colleagues at Oxford
794
00:47:57,473 --> 00:48:02,263
about TETRA masts and they chose
to ignore their advice
795
00:48:02,353 --> 00:48:04,783
not to go ahead.
796
00:48:11,073 --> 00:48:13,632
Calm down, darling,
the report wasn't conclusive.
797
00:48:13,633 --> 00:48:15,072
But why didn't you warn me?
798
00:48:15,073 --> 00:48:17,952
I didn't want to worry you.
Are you cross?
799
00:48:17,953 --> 00:48:19,792
Well, it made me look a fool.
800
00:48:19,793 --> 00:48:24,032
Deed wouldn't think that of you.
I'm sure he wouldn't, darling.
801
00:48:24,033 --> 00:48:27,103
Neil, what's going on?
802
00:48:27,873 --> 00:48:30,232
Your own scientists
condemned the TETRA system.
803
00:48:30,233 --> 00:48:33,232
This is a big setback.
You're taking it much too lightly.
804
00:48:33,233 --> 00:48:36,712
The Prime Minister assured me
we're not walking away from this,
805
00:48:36,713 --> 00:48:40,047
especially after
such a huge expenditure.
806
00:48:40,153 --> 00:48:41,943
We'll see it through.
807
00:49:17,073 --> 00:49:20,392
Do you want them to pat me down
to see if I'm bugged?
808
00:49:20,393 --> 00:49:24,552
I'll rely on our mutual interest
in these phone masts.
809
00:49:24,553 --> 00:49:26,387
Now, what can be done?
810
00:49:27,673 --> 00:49:30,992
Too late to do much
now you've let it get to court.
811
00:49:30,993 --> 00:49:33,272
For such a powerful man, Tim,
you have a small understanding
812
00:49:33,273 --> 00:49:36,712
of how the Judiciary
and the Executive work.
813
00:49:36,713 --> 00:49:39,392
You need a businessman
running things, Neil.
814
00:49:39,393 --> 00:49:43,310
What's your solution
for dealing with this case?
815
00:49:43,713 --> 00:49:46,352
If you can't take the case out of court,
816
00:49:46,353 --> 00:49:48,937
take the court out of the case.
817
00:49:49,873 --> 00:49:51,193
Negotiate.
818
00:49:51,473 --> 00:49:53,992
There must be something
the Bridges want.
819
00:49:53,993 --> 00:49:57,992
I suspect all they want, Tim,
is their health back.
820
00:49:57,993 --> 00:49:59,993
There is something else.
821
00:50:01,353 --> 00:50:05,603
You tell me what.
It mustn't look like capitulation.
822
00:50:06,673 --> 00:50:08,272
Detective Sergeant Bridges
823
00:50:08,273 --> 00:50:11,192
won't want to be prosecuted
for corruption.
824
00:50:11,193 --> 00:50:12,543
Was he corrupt?
825
00:50:12,633 --> 00:50:17,467
He was a policeman, Neil.
His entire squad was on the take.
826
00:50:17,633 --> 00:50:19,712
Two former colleagues
will give evidence to that effect
827
00:50:19,713 --> 00:50:23,963
if you can guarantee them
immunity from prosecution.
828
00:50:26,153 --> 00:50:28,152
Tim, you still manage
to take one's breath away
829
00:50:28,153 --> 00:50:30,992
with the most startlingly direct action.
830
00:50:30,993 --> 00:50:34,312
Can you guarantee
these two policemen immunity?
831
00:50:34,313 --> 00:50:38,980
Of course. We'd need to look at
what evidence you've got.
832
00:50:56,713 --> 00:50:58,303
USHER: All rise.
833
00:51:04,433 --> 00:51:08,767
Mrs Mills, do you wish
to re-examine Professor Brams?
834
00:51:14,393 --> 00:51:15,873
It is with regret
835
00:51:15,953 --> 00:51:20,352
that I have to inform the court
that my client is withdrawing her claim.
836
00:51:20,353 --> 00:51:22,687
Has her health deteriorated?
837
00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:24,997
There was no explanation.
838
00:51:26,593 --> 00:51:29,272
Would you like an adjournment
to inquire after her health?
839
00:51:29,273 --> 00:51:31,352
That's hardly fair to my clients.
840
00:51:31,353 --> 00:51:33,432
Mrs Channing,
the determination of this case
841
00:51:33,433 --> 00:51:35,992
has potentially significant
social repercussions.
842
00:51:35,993 --> 00:51:38,992
Having amassed
all of this written argument,
843
00:51:38,993 --> 00:51:41,992
it's important to clarify the reasons
for its apparent abandonment.
844
00:51:41,993 --> 00:51:45,992
This is all very odd,
and I don't like oddities in my court.
845
00:51:45,993 --> 00:51:47,792
- Mrs Mills.
- An adjournment would be helpful.
846
00:51:47,793 --> 00:51:50,912
- All right. How long would you like?
- Uh, would you hear an argument
847
00:51:50,913 --> 00:51:52,912
as to why we must not continue
with this?
848
00:51:52,913 --> 00:51:54,313
Yeah. Go on.
849
00:51:55,393 --> 00:51:59,672
Rule 38 of the Civil Procedure Rules
permits discontinuation of a case
850
00:51:59,673 --> 00:52:02,232
without judicial authority being sought.
851
00:52:02,233 --> 00:52:05,352
Moreover, I would like
to address your lordship
852
00:52:05,353 --> 00:52:07,672
on a matter of human rights
jurisprudence
853
00:52:07,673 --> 00:52:10,992
in relation to issues of conclusiveness
in civil litigation.
854
00:52:10,993 --> 00:52:14,103
I have in mind the reasoning
855
00:52:14,193 --> 00:52:19,663
in Perez de Rada Cavanilles and Spain
in 1998,
856
00:52:19,753 --> 00:52:22,223
29 EHR 109.
857
00:52:23,353 --> 00:52:24,472
Perez de Rada...?
858
00:52:24,473 --> 00:52:25,503
Cavanilles.
859
00:52:28,313 --> 00:52:29,633
All right.
860
00:52:30,433 --> 00:52:34,472
Well, in Williams and Cowle in 2000,
Lord Justice Mummery
861
00:52:34,473 --> 00:52:37,672
wisely observed
that we must resist the temptation
862
00:52:37,673 --> 00:52:41,512
to turn a court hearing
into a human rights seminar.
863
00:52:41,513 --> 00:52:44,552
However, not being familiar
with this particular case,
864
00:52:44,553 --> 00:52:47,552
Mrs Channing, I will adjourn
to consider it properly.
865
00:52:47,553 --> 00:52:49,752
My clerk will inform you
when I have done so.
866
00:52:49,753 --> 00:52:52,912
- How long might that be?
- My clerk will inform you.
867
00:52:52,913 --> 00:52:54,423
USHER: All rise.
868
00:52:55,353 --> 00:52:58,872
You had that very point raised at
the Strand earlier this year, Judge.
869
00:52:58,873 --> 00:53:00,303
Really, Coop?
870
00:53:00,953 --> 00:53:02,703
Must have forgotten.
871
00:53:03,593 --> 00:53:06,112
I beg you to reconsider
going on with the case.
872
00:53:06,113 --> 00:53:08,952
No. You can't make us.
I've made my decision.
873
00:53:08,953 --> 00:53:10,832
- And what about Mrs Bridges?
- She's not well enough.
874
00:53:10,833 --> 00:53:12,833
But was it her decision?
875
00:53:14,473 --> 00:53:17,392
This is a terribly important test case.
876
00:53:17,393 --> 00:53:19,272
A lot of people are suffering
because of these masts,
877
00:53:19,273 --> 00:53:21,832
- a lot of policemen, too.
- Then someone else can do it.
878
00:53:21,833 --> 00:53:24,472
Your wife has the strongest case.
879
00:53:24,473 --> 00:53:28,472
You can't win, Mrs Mills,
not against those people.
880
00:53:28,473 --> 00:53:30,192
Has something happened
that you haven't told me?
881
00:53:30,193 --> 00:53:32,277
I've given you my answer.
882
00:53:41,593 --> 00:53:43,343
I'll call you, Jake.
883
00:54:10,673 --> 00:54:12,263
JAKE: Mrs Mills?
884
00:54:19,073 --> 00:54:20,863
That looks unhealthy.
885
00:54:20,953 --> 00:54:22,063
What?
886
00:54:22,233 --> 00:54:23,983
You're eating alone.
887
00:54:24,273 --> 00:54:26,032
Yeah, you know,
sometimes I just can't be bothered
888
00:54:26,033 --> 00:54:28,450
to go out and pick anyone up.
889
00:54:34,193 --> 00:54:36,512
This is a side of you
I've not seen before.
890
00:54:36,513 --> 00:54:38,183
I have my moments.
891
00:54:39,393 --> 00:54:41,952
Jack Bridges was got at,
that's why he stopped.
892
00:54:41,953 --> 00:54:42,953
Got at how?
893
00:54:43,033 --> 00:54:45,592
A former colleague told him
he'd be prosecuted for corruption
894
00:54:45,593 --> 00:54:49,312
if he went on with the case,
he'd lose his pension.
895
00:54:49,313 --> 00:54:53,472
- Had he given them cause?
- Why would I ask him that?
896
00:54:53,473 --> 00:54:55,152
Does he realise his former colleague
897
00:54:55,153 --> 00:54:57,472
could be arrested
for not coming forward sooner?
898
00:54:57,473 --> 00:54:59,432
Of course. Doesn't help him.
899
00:54:59,433 --> 00:55:02,112
Is he going to continue with the case?
900
00:55:02,113 --> 00:55:04,032
I need to get him immunity
from prosecution.
901
00:55:04,033 --> 00:55:05,463
Can you help?
902
00:55:05,793 --> 00:55:08,232
Only the Attorney can do that.
903
00:55:08,233 --> 00:55:11,672
Well, can I bring him
to your chambers tomorrow?
904
00:55:11,673 --> 00:55:12,832
For what reason?
905
00:55:12,833 --> 00:55:15,432
I don't know. You'll think of something.
906
00:55:15,433 --> 00:55:17,432
Well, who do you think
is behind all this, then?
907
00:55:17,433 --> 00:55:20,272
Well, it's obvious.
The Home Secretary and Tim Listfield.
908
00:55:20,273 --> 00:55:22,792
- Evidence?
- John, since when did Listfield
909
00:55:22,793 --> 00:55:24,472
ever leave evidence behind him?
910
00:55:24,473 --> 00:55:26,640
He's got the most to lose.
911
00:55:27,513 --> 00:55:31,032
All right, bring him to chambers
at 10:30 tomorrow morning...
912
00:55:31,033 --> 00:55:32,952
Thank you.
George will have to be there as well.
913
00:55:32,953 --> 00:55:34,103
Yeah.
914
00:55:34,193 --> 00:55:35,432
And if he does go on with this,
915
00:55:35,433 --> 00:55:39,100
you'd better be sure
of your other witnesses.
916
00:55:40,153 --> 00:55:43,272
MARC: Why must everything be as
Deed says? He dominates everything.
917
00:55:43,273 --> 00:55:46,992
JO: I need your client's evidence.
MARC: I told you, I can't make him.
918
00:55:46,993 --> 00:55:49,712
JO: These people are dying.
Does that mean nothing to him?
919
00:55:49,713 --> 00:55:52,792
Look, Jo, if you haven't got a case,
you haven't.
920
00:55:52,793 --> 00:55:55,592
And nothing I or Brian Mansridge says
will change that.
921
00:55:55,593 --> 00:55:57,832
JO: Michael's mother died
from a brain tumour
922
00:55:57,833 --> 00:56:00,392
caused by a cell phone.
Does that mean nothing?
923
00:56:00,393 --> 00:56:02,192
I don't want to discuss this
in front of the children.
924
00:56:02,193 --> 00:56:03,783
Yeah, I'm sorry.
925
00:56:04,073 --> 00:56:06,192
But have you actually
asked Mr Mansridge?
926
00:56:06,193 --> 00:56:08,672
Look, why don't we just drop this,
get the dinner started
927
00:56:08,673 --> 00:56:10,552
and we discuss it later, hmm?
928
00:56:10,553 --> 00:56:13,387
- I don't think I can stay.
- What?
929
00:56:17,193 --> 00:56:18,552
Do you have to go?
930
00:56:18,553 --> 00:56:21,912
Oh, I'm sorry, darling.
I've got too much work.
931
00:56:21,913 --> 00:56:23,830
See you at the weekend.
932
00:56:29,873 --> 00:56:33,552
I have no knowledge of this.
It's shameful to suggest that I have.
933
00:56:33,553 --> 00:56:35,232
George, no one is suggesting that.
934
00:56:35,233 --> 00:56:37,592
Well, then, why have you
brought Mr Bridges here like this?
935
00:56:37,593 --> 00:56:39,792
If what Mr Bridges claims is true,
936
00:56:39,793 --> 00:56:42,152
then the officer concerned
will be arrested.
937
00:56:42,153 --> 00:56:45,832
But who would risk such consequences
when the case isn't even winnable?
938
00:56:45,833 --> 00:56:47,312
Even so, the police inspector
939
00:56:47,313 --> 00:56:49,312
making the allegations
will be interviewed.
940
00:56:49,313 --> 00:56:50,383
Ah!
941
00:56:50,473 --> 00:56:53,352
Were you involved in what
your former colleague alleged?
942
00:56:53,353 --> 00:56:56,232
- George, you know better than that.
- I wasn't.
943
00:56:56,233 --> 00:56:57,992
Well, then, you have nothing to fear.
944
00:56:57,993 --> 00:57:01,512
Only another court case.
Another I probably can't win.
945
00:57:01,513 --> 00:57:03,952
Another endless nightmare for my family!
946
00:57:03,953 --> 00:57:06,203
- Excuse me, my lord.
- Hmm.
947
00:57:10,713 --> 00:57:13,047
Can't you give him immunity?
948
00:57:13,073 --> 00:57:15,472
Only the Attorney can do that.
949
00:57:15,473 --> 00:57:19,072
He won't be very well-disposed
if you push on with Mrs Hussein's case.
950
00:57:19,073 --> 00:57:20,672
What have you got on that one?
951
00:57:20,673 --> 00:57:26,392
All the details of the South African
asbestos cases, Lubbe v. Cape PLC.
952
00:57:26,393 --> 00:57:28,592
The claimants won the right to sue here.
953
00:57:28,593 --> 00:57:33,352
I haven't really studied them,
but couldn't they help Mrs Hussein?
954
00:57:33,353 --> 00:57:36,832
- It's not easily argued, I don't think.
- You could take this case, Dad.
955
00:57:36,833 --> 00:57:40,333
The Lord Chancellor
would jump all over me.
956
00:57:43,233 --> 00:57:46,192
All right. I'll talk to the Attorney.
957
00:57:46,193 --> 00:57:49,072
The consequences for government
and manufacturing in this country
958
00:57:49,073 --> 00:57:51,112
would be too awful
if the DU case went forward.
959
00:57:51,113 --> 00:57:53,312
- It certainly should go forward.
- Not in front of you, John.
960
00:57:53,313 --> 00:57:55,592
Well, it depends on how long
Mrs Hussein has to wait.
961
00:57:55,593 --> 00:57:57,912
She's, uh, she's a bit mad, isn't she?
962
00:57:57,913 --> 00:57:59,392
How would you feel
if you'd lost your spouse,
963
00:57:59,393 --> 00:58:01,112
your children and your grandchildren?
964
00:58:01,113 --> 00:58:04,912
Yes, but did she lose them,
as she claims, to depleted uranium?
965
00:58:04,913 --> 00:58:07,413
That's a question for a judge.
966
00:58:12,993 --> 00:58:16,872
Deed is very keen to get immunity
from prosecution for the ex-policeman.
967
00:58:16,873 --> 00:58:18,312
Well, he certainly can't have that.
968
00:58:18,313 --> 00:58:21,672
Bridges will have to take his chances
if they go on with the case.
969
00:58:21,673 --> 00:58:23,673
That's for me to decide.
970
00:58:24,993 --> 00:58:29,912
Yes, I can't be seen to be involved,
with George in the case.
971
00:58:29,913 --> 00:58:32,472
There's a risk it will look like it came
from the Home Office.
972
00:58:32,473 --> 00:58:34,223
It certainly didn't.
973
00:58:34,633 --> 00:58:37,152
Is Deed planning to hear
the Iraqi widow case?
974
00:58:37,153 --> 00:58:41,592
- No, he's not so foolish.
- Well, perhaps we should encourage him.
975
00:58:41,593 --> 00:58:44,712
Are we still pushing this idea
of jury service for Deed?
976
00:58:44,713 --> 00:58:46,272
It's the most effective option.
977
00:58:46,273 --> 00:58:49,432
He must dismiss this phone masts case.
978
00:58:49,433 --> 00:58:51,517
We're still trying, Neil.
979
00:58:54,953 --> 00:58:58,370
What are you going to do
about Mr Bridges?
980
00:58:59,513 --> 00:59:01,992
Well, if the threat was to prevent
the case from proceeding,
981
00:59:01,993 --> 00:59:05,112
it's perverting the course of justice,
isn't it?
982
00:59:05,113 --> 00:59:07,197
You'd need good evidence.
983
00:59:08,153 --> 00:59:11,033
- Yeah.
- Oh, thank you.
984
00:59:12,033 --> 00:59:15,072
Do you have a ticket
for the administrative court?
985
00:59:15,073 --> 00:59:16,183
Yeah.
986
00:59:16,473 --> 00:59:22,312
You could review the MOD's refusal to
hold an inquiry into depleted uranium.
987
00:59:22,313 --> 00:59:25,832
Wouldn't your asking me carry the
same prejudice as you hearing it?
988
00:59:25,833 --> 00:59:29,250
Mmm-hmm, yes,
you'd get a lot of pressure.
989
00:59:32,273 --> 00:59:36,432
You could give me chapter and verse
on the Judiciary's inviolable right
990
00:59:36,433 --> 00:59:38,600
not to be interfered with.
991
00:59:48,793 --> 00:59:52,210
You should go to school, Jamie.
It's best.
992
00:59:53,033 --> 00:59:54,623
Did you hear me?
993
00:59:56,393 --> 00:59:57,543
Jamie.
994
00:59:59,113 --> 01:00:03,543
Why can't you go on with the case?
You've got to, Dad.
995
01:00:03,633 --> 01:00:07,152
Well, these things
are never that easy, son.
996
01:00:07,153 --> 01:00:10,663
I've let you all down. I'm sorry.
997
01:00:15,513 --> 01:00:16,623
Jake.
998
01:00:22,433 --> 01:00:24,023
USHER: All rise.
999
01:00:26,513 --> 01:00:27,833
Mrs Mills.
1000
01:00:28,673 --> 01:00:31,340
My clients haven't contacted me.
1001
01:00:31,433 --> 01:00:33,912
Has anyone gone to inquire
after Mrs Bridges' health?
1002
01:00:33,913 --> 01:00:36,872
Yes. Might we have
a further adjournment?
1003
01:00:36,873 --> 01:00:38,912
This is intolerable.
The claimants have declared
1004
01:00:38,913 --> 01:00:39,992
they're not going on with their claim.
1005
01:00:39,993 --> 01:00:43,392
Are we now going to wait
for my learned friend to persuade them?
1006
01:00:43,393 --> 01:00:46,432
- No one is trying to persuade them.
- That's what it looks like.
1007
01:00:46,433 --> 01:00:47,952
Well, your people put pressure on them.
1008
01:00:47,953 --> 01:00:49,592
Now, that's enough.
Address the court, not each other.
1009
01:00:49,593 --> 01:00:50,992
No one put pressure
on your corrupt clients.
1010
01:00:50,993 --> 01:00:52,152
The Home Office did.
1011
01:00:52,153 --> 01:00:54,392
One more word out of either of you,
I will hold you in contempt.
1012
01:00:54,393 --> 01:00:56,352
This is absolutely absurd.
This has nothing to do with...
1013
01:00:56,353 --> 01:00:59,187
The Government, the Home Office...
1014
01:01:01,233 --> 01:01:03,352
I've had enough of this. Get them out.
1015
01:01:03,353 --> 01:01:05,143
Adjourn it, please.
1016
01:01:05,233 --> 01:01:06,423
Ladies!
1017
01:01:18,913 --> 01:01:20,472
Are you after my job, Brian?
1018
01:01:20,473 --> 01:01:23,832
Uh, it's not for the Judge, Rita.
Mrs Channing asked for it.
1019
01:01:23,833 --> 01:01:24,912
What a cheek.
1020
01:01:24,913 --> 01:01:27,712
Let her instructing solicitor
get her tea from the lobby.
1021
01:01:27,713 --> 01:01:30,552
Well, she doesn't drink
vending machine tea, Rita.
1022
01:01:30,553 --> 01:01:32,552
She said she wanted a proper cup of tea.
1023
01:01:32,553 --> 01:01:34,832
- Asked for a proper cup, I see.
- And some cake.
1024
01:01:34,833 --> 01:01:39,250
Is that what she asked for?
She is the absolute limit.
1025
01:01:39,473 --> 01:01:42,632
I don't think it's for you to fetch
and carry for these barristers, Brian.
1026
01:01:42,633 --> 01:01:45,232
I know, Rita,
but you know what she's like.
1027
01:01:45,233 --> 01:01:47,472
Any idea how long the Judge is going
to keep them locked up in there?
1028
01:01:47,473 --> 01:01:50,552
Well, until they learn
to behave themselves.
1029
01:01:50,553 --> 01:01:52,912
Well, in that case,
I'd better remove the file I've hidden
1030
01:01:52,913 --> 01:01:54,830
in the Battenberg cake.
1031
01:01:54,953 --> 01:01:57,787
- Take it back, Brian.
- Yes, Rita.
1032
01:02:04,793 --> 01:02:08,312
Have you forgotten Mrs Mills
and Mrs Channing, Judge?
1033
01:02:08,313 --> 01:02:11,230
Haven't they killed each other yet?
1034
01:02:12,473 --> 01:02:14,263
I'll go and see them.
1035
01:02:36,993 --> 01:02:38,023
Oh!
1036
01:02:41,113 --> 01:02:42,312
George, you're driving me mad.
1037
01:02:42,313 --> 01:02:44,872
Well, you did the same to me
for a very, very long time.
1038
01:02:44,873 --> 01:02:46,712
- That was all in the past.
- Oh, how convenient.
1039
01:02:46,713 --> 01:02:49,672
This is just a clever ploy
to get your clients back on board.
1040
01:02:49,673 --> 01:02:52,752
Your boyfriend got Sussex police to put
pressure on Jake Bridges to quit!
1041
01:02:52,753 --> 01:02:54,792
- Oh, very good.
- Of course he did.
1042
01:02:54,793 --> 01:02:59,552
- Go to hell! For God's sake!
- George, live in the real world!
1043
01:02:59,553 --> 01:03:00,952
Do you two want to spend
the night in here?
1044
01:03:00,953 --> 01:03:02,752
This is completely outrageous!
1045
01:03:02,753 --> 01:03:05,432
Let the usher know
when you're ready to apologise.
1046
01:03:05,433 --> 01:03:08,433
- John, John!
- I want to speak to...
1047
01:03:08,473 --> 01:03:09,503
Oh!
1048
01:03:13,953 --> 01:03:17,203
- They want to apologise, Judge.
- Good.
1049
01:03:17,873 --> 01:03:20,873
Ask Mrs Mills to join me, would you?
1050
01:03:33,673 --> 01:03:37,757
- Everyone had given up on you.
- Are we too late?
1051
01:03:38,033 --> 01:03:40,367
I'll tell the Judge's clerk.
1052
01:03:44,553 --> 01:03:46,832
- Come in.
- Mrs Mills, Judge.
1053
01:03:46,833 --> 01:03:48,263
Thanks, Coop.
1054
01:03:50,873 --> 01:03:54,290
- Your clients are back.
- Yes, thank you.
1055
01:03:55,393 --> 01:03:58,560
Your second expert'll need to be good.
1056
01:04:01,393 --> 01:04:04,912
- How are things with Marc?
- Fine. Why wouldn't they be?
1057
01:04:04,913 --> 01:04:06,423
I live in hope.
1058
01:04:07,033 --> 01:04:09,117
I came here to apologise.
1059
01:04:11,553 --> 01:04:14,712
Did Charlie talk to you
about Mrs Hussein?
1060
01:04:14,713 --> 01:04:17,792
- She did.
- Are you going to take the case?
1061
01:04:17,793 --> 01:04:19,312
She hasn't got any money.
1062
01:04:19,313 --> 01:04:21,832
- Legal aid.
- Refused six times.
1063
01:04:21,833 --> 01:04:24,792
So, suddenly money is an issue for you?
1064
01:04:24,793 --> 01:04:27,552
You live in this rarefied atmosphere
of large pensions.
1065
01:04:27,553 --> 01:04:30,220
- I have to pay for mine.
- Yeah.
1066
01:04:30,913 --> 01:04:33,330
You'll need a good solicitor.
1067
01:04:34,913 --> 01:04:39,072
Charlie found one. We're having a con
with Mrs Hussein this evening.
1068
01:04:39,073 --> 01:04:40,103
Oh.
1069
01:04:41,233 --> 01:04:43,592
No, Michael's at cello practice
until 6:00.
1070
01:04:43,593 --> 01:04:46,672
Oh, Brian Mansridge will go to court,
so who knows?
1071
01:04:46,673 --> 01:04:50,272
He was reluctant. Why don't you talk
him through all the evidence first?
1072
01:04:50,273 --> 01:04:52,690
- We're not allowed to.
- Hmm.
1073
01:04:54,393 --> 01:04:57,632
I'm still being pressed
by the South African government.
1074
01:04:57,633 --> 01:05:00,672
They want me to return and give evidence
about these drugs we tested.
1075
01:05:00,673 --> 01:05:02,072
- Marc, is this serious?
- Hmm?
1076
01:05:02,073 --> 01:05:06,672
No, no, it's all about politicking
and pharmaceutical companies.
1077
01:05:06,673 --> 01:05:08,923
I hope Brian proves useful.
1078
01:05:09,753 --> 01:05:13,792
I've got to go. I've got a con.
I've decided to help Mrs Hussein.
1079
01:05:13,793 --> 01:05:16,593
Oh! Will I see you later?
1080
01:05:16,673 --> 01:05:20,090
- Might stay at my place tonight.
- Right.
1081
01:05:21,913 --> 01:05:22,983
Bye.
1082
01:05:28,673 --> 01:05:30,632
How did you amass all this evidence?
1083
01:05:30,633 --> 01:05:34,552
I lost my husband, three children
and seven grandchildren,
1084
01:05:34,553 --> 01:05:36,637
it makes you resourceful.
1085
01:05:37,313 --> 01:05:39,752
My husband was a member
of the Government.
1086
01:05:39,753 --> 01:05:41,543
I knew my way around.
1087
01:05:42,113 --> 01:05:44,352
But you weren't affected by DU.
1088
01:05:44,353 --> 01:05:47,020
No. I wish to God I'd gone, too.
1089
01:05:50,353 --> 01:05:53,192
The parallel leukemic clusters around
Dumfries and Galloway
1090
01:05:53,193 --> 01:05:56,432
where the British Army tests DU shells,
is that on record?
1091
01:05:56,433 --> 01:05:58,992
- I have all the sources.
- All?
1092
01:05:58,993 --> 01:06:02,192
Well, they also test for the Americans.
1093
01:06:02,193 --> 01:06:04,592
It's against their law
to do it back home.
1094
01:06:04,593 --> 01:06:08,352
Uh, when Mrs Hussein tried to get
more evidence,
1095
01:06:08,353 --> 01:06:10,832
the health authorities
said there were no clusters.
1096
01:06:10,833 --> 01:06:15,352
But I got the emails from the health
authorities admitting that there are.
1097
01:06:15,353 --> 01:06:17,437
Did you get them legally?
1098
01:06:18,873 --> 01:06:20,943
They lied, Mrs Mills.
1099
01:06:22,353 --> 01:06:24,023
It might not help.
1100
01:06:25,513 --> 01:06:29,763
Look, my dear,
I'm very encouraged by your interest,
1101
01:06:29,953 --> 01:06:34,663
but don't underestimate your government
or the Americans.
1102
01:06:36,473 --> 01:06:42,640
Sometimes, Mrs Hussein, our courts prove
totally independent of government.
1103
01:06:43,833 --> 01:06:46,832
If this Hussein woman gets to court,
it'll be a disaster.
1104
01:06:46,833 --> 01:06:50,472
- It is likely, Alan.
- The Cabinet is seriously worried.
1105
01:06:50,473 --> 01:06:53,512
Well, unless and until the Executive
changes the rules,
1106
01:06:53,513 --> 01:06:55,632
we can't interfere with due process..
1107
01:06:55,633 --> 01:06:58,272
Democracy sometimes makes
for poor management.
1108
01:06:58,273 --> 01:07:01,832
They're trying to organise a wholly
reliable judge for it.
1109
01:07:01,833 --> 01:07:04,917
Oh, well, that's something, at least.
1110
01:07:07,673 --> 01:07:11,552
- Can we get this to court, Jo?
- Your Dad seems to think so.
1111
01:07:11,553 --> 01:07:14,632
- Do you miss him?
- Did he ask you to ask?
1112
01:07:14,633 --> 01:07:17,883
No, of course not. He wouldn't do that.
1113
01:07:20,153 --> 01:07:23,903
I miss his incisive mind
and his sense of fun.
1114
01:07:26,793 --> 01:07:31,072
Charlie, what would you think of someone
who didn't let you into his room,
1115
01:07:31,073 --> 01:07:32,713
kept it for best?
1116
01:07:32,953 --> 01:07:36,620
- Is that what Marc does?
- No, someone else.
1117
01:07:37,393 --> 01:07:41,432
- Jo, I think we're being followed.
- What? Where?
1118
01:07:41,433 --> 01:07:46,072
There. Man in the Audi.
I'm sure he was at the Law Library.
1119
01:07:46,073 --> 01:07:48,192
- Are you sure?
- Come on, let's go and ask him.
1120
01:07:48,193 --> 01:07:50,193
No, Charlie, be careful.
1121
01:07:53,073 --> 01:07:56,073
Well, perhaps Mrs Hussein was right.
1122
01:07:57,313 --> 01:08:01,563
We shouldn't underestimate
the Government's concern.
1123
01:08:05,633 --> 01:08:06,783
Morag.
1124
01:08:08,793 --> 01:08:12,752
I hear you've been given a ticket to
hear cases in the administrative court.
1125
01:08:12,753 --> 01:08:14,753
I'm not sure why, Monty.
1126
01:08:15,033 --> 01:08:17,912
You could take the Hussein
judicial review.
1127
01:08:17,913 --> 01:08:21,472
Oh, it's far too complicated.
I'm just a girl, after all.
1128
01:08:21,473 --> 01:08:25,783
Mmm. No, I think you provide
an excellent solution.
1129
01:08:25,873 --> 01:08:29,207
I'll have my clerk send over the papers.
1130
01:08:42,033 --> 01:08:43,992
Have I caught my lord
in a state of undress?
1131
01:08:43,993 --> 01:08:45,952
A bit late in the morning.
1132
01:08:45,953 --> 01:08:50,712
- Have you got a moment?
- Yeah, sure, I'm on my way to court.
1133
01:08:50,713 --> 01:08:55,312
Monty's just offered me the judicial
review into the MOD's decision.
1134
01:08:55,313 --> 01:08:59,032
- Is it a poison chalice?
- Depends what you decide.
1135
01:08:59,033 --> 01:09:00,950
I suggested you for it.
1136
01:09:01,353 --> 01:09:02,383
Ah!
1137
01:09:05,153 --> 01:09:09,992
Mr Mansridge, can you say what,
if any, damage you've seen to humans
1138
01:09:09,993 --> 01:09:14,672
as the result of microwaves generated
from cell phones and their masts?
1139
01:09:14,673 --> 01:09:17,032
Positive conclusive damage, I can't.
1140
01:09:17,033 --> 01:09:20,352
As a neurosurgeon,
my area of expertise is the brain.
1141
01:09:20,353 --> 01:09:24,432
There's a suggestion that both phones
and masts cause tumours.
1142
01:09:24,433 --> 01:09:26,392
Are you seeing these
with more frequency?
1143
01:09:26,393 --> 01:09:31,432
There has been an increase, but it's not
conclusive that masts are the cause.
1144
01:09:31,433 --> 01:09:33,792
Can you tell the court
how big an increase?
1145
01:09:33,793 --> 01:09:38,152
Percentage-wise, probably 400-500%
over the last 10 years.
1146
01:09:38,153 --> 01:09:40,112
In hard numbers, please.
1147
01:09:40,113 --> 01:09:43,072
- Uh, four to five per 100,000.
- Thank you.
1148
01:09:43,073 --> 01:09:45,990
But as I say, these are not proven.
1149
01:09:46,753 --> 01:09:48,832
Well, then, is it your opinion
1150
01:09:48,833 --> 01:09:50,952
that phone masts
are the cause of the increase?
1151
01:09:50,953 --> 01:09:54,870
Possibly. In the absence
of any other evidences.
1152
01:10:02,633 --> 01:10:05,792
Have you found a connection between
Motor Neurone Disease
1153
01:10:05,793 --> 01:10:10,512
and the effects of phone base stations
such as in TETRA masts?
1154
01:10:10,513 --> 01:10:12,023
Not personally.
1155
01:10:12,673 --> 01:10:18,472
There are reports that calcium efflux
occurs, but it's not a proven fact.
1156
01:10:18,473 --> 01:10:22,912
Well, then can you tell me your view on
low-level radiation such as microwaves?
1157
01:10:22,913 --> 01:10:26,512
I've written several papers on the
effects of microwaves on the brain.
1158
01:10:26,513 --> 01:10:30,632
My first concern started with
the emergence of digital cell phones,
1159
01:10:30,633 --> 01:10:33,392
to give mobile phones
their correct name.
1160
01:10:33,393 --> 01:10:36,392
Over the past 12 years
have your concerns changed?
1161
01:10:36,393 --> 01:10:38,352
Well, nothing has confirmed that theory.
1162
01:10:38,353 --> 01:10:40,912
Although we do know that
electromagnetic waves
1163
01:10:40,913 --> 01:10:45,152
going into our bodies make them act
like aerials and generate electricity.
1164
01:10:45,153 --> 01:10:48,432
This goes to ground through the path
of least resistance,
1165
01:10:48,433 --> 01:10:50,632
hormones, antibodies,
neurotransmitters.
1166
01:10:50,633 --> 01:10:52,592
Is this necessarily harmful?
1167
01:10:52,593 --> 01:10:55,192
As an occasional occurrence,
probably not.
1168
01:10:55,193 --> 01:10:58,352
The destination of hormones,
antibodies, neurotransmitters
1169
01:10:58,353 --> 01:11:00,152
is the surface of a cell.
1170
01:11:00,153 --> 01:11:03,592
Here, useful chemicals can pass through
the membrane into the cell
1171
01:11:03,593 --> 01:11:05,677
and poisons can come out.
1172
01:11:06,033 --> 01:11:08,552
This is the process cells go through
all the while.
1173
01:11:08,553 --> 01:11:11,352
But if we change the charge
on each carrier,
1174
01:11:11,353 --> 01:11:13,512
as when we're hit
with low-level radiation,
1175
01:11:13,513 --> 01:11:15,872
then the beneficial substances
may not go in
1176
01:11:15,873 --> 01:11:19,232
and the poisons may not come out
and then you get cell breakdown.
1177
01:11:19,233 --> 01:11:21,067
This is just a theory?
1178
01:11:23,033 --> 01:11:25,832
Well, the effects
of low-level radiation is, yes.
1179
01:11:25,833 --> 01:11:30,672
But certainly some sort of overload
is causing more serious illnesses.
1180
01:11:30,673 --> 01:11:33,007
I see, thank you. Mrs Mills.
1181
01:11:33,793 --> 01:11:37,833
Is Motor Neurone Disease
one possible illness?
1182
01:11:38,633 --> 01:11:40,303
Well, I can't say.
1183
01:11:40,593 --> 01:11:44,552
Only that I would not wish to live
in close proximity to something as...
1184
01:11:44,553 --> 01:11:46,720
well, aggressive as TETRA.
1185
01:11:48,513 --> 01:11:50,432
Why is it so aggressive?
1186
01:11:50,433 --> 01:11:52,912
Well, as a result of pulsating waves,
1187
01:11:52,913 --> 01:11:56,712
we get the accumulative effect
of 400 million particles,
1188
01:11:56,713 --> 01:12:00,272
neutrons, going through our bodies
every second.
1189
01:12:00,273 --> 01:12:03,032
Now, the theory is that this suppresses
the immune system
1190
01:12:03,033 --> 01:12:06,032
so we get colds for longer,
longer illnesses,
1191
01:12:06,033 --> 01:12:09,533
depression, anxiety
and even brain tumours.
1192
01:12:13,193 --> 01:12:14,913
DEED: Mrs Channing.
1193
01:12:19,833 --> 01:12:24,072
Is there evidence that the phone mast
caused these problems?
1194
01:12:24,073 --> 01:12:26,490
Hard evidence? Of course not.
1195
01:12:26,953 --> 01:12:30,552
Nor epidemiological studies to support
this theory?
1196
01:12:30,553 --> 01:12:34,632
No. No independent epidemiological
studies have been conducted.
1197
01:12:34,633 --> 01:12:37,512
The Government's never insisted
on a long-term study
1198
01:12:37,513 --> 01:12:41,112
into the safety of cell phones
before they were marketed.
1199
01:12:41,113 --> 01:12:42,543
Why was that?
1200
01:12:43,393 --> 01:12:45,893
Because they were deemed safe?
1201
01:12:47,153 --> 01:12:50,472
Mr Mansridge, you were an observer
on the Stewart Committee
1202
01:12:50,473 --> 01:12:52,472
when it reported on mobile phones.
1203
01:12:52,473 --> 01:12:53,807
Yes, yes, I was.
1204
01:12:53,833 --> 01:12:56,352
Well, did this report raise
widespread concerns
1205
01:12:56,353 --> 01:12:58,712
about mobile phones and their masts?
1206
01:12:58,713 --> 01:13:00,903
No. No, it didn't.
1207
01:13:01,353 --> 01:13:05,432
Because presumably you were
all part of the Government
1208
01:13:05,433 --> 01:13:10,512
and industry-wide conspiracy
to make everyone ill in 10 years' time
1209
01:13:10,513 --> 01:13:12,512
so that they had no customers.
1210
01:13:12,513 --> 01:13:14,347
No, no, of course not.
1211
01:13:15,113 --> 01:13:18,592
Can you say how
Motor Neurone Disease occurs?
1212
01:13:18,593 --> 01:13:21,313
I can't. Not categorically.
1213
01:13:22,513 --> 01:13:25,013
Can anyone point to its cause?
1214
01:13:25,353 --> 01:13:28,103
Not in any papers I've ever seen.
1215
01:13:30,953 --> 01:13:34,943
Thank you. Is MND on the increase?
1216
01:13:35,953 --> 01:13:40,792
It's on the rise, year by year by
about 40% over the last 10 years, yes.
1217
01:13:40,793 --> 01:13:43,103
Caused by phone masts?
1218
01:13:44,513 --> 01:13:46,463
I can't say that.
1219
01:13:50,473 --> 01:13:54,390
Well, thank you, Mr Mansridge.
You are released.
1220
01:13:59,753 --> 01:14:03,472
Mrs Channing, would you like to call
your expert back-to-back?
1221
01:14:03,473 --> 01:14:08,752
Yes. Professor Carol Churchill
of the Institute of Scientific Research.
1222
01:14:08,753 --> 01:14:13,503
Right. Well, perhaps tomorrow.
Mrs Mills has another case.
1223
01:14:28,153 --> 01:14:29,832
Jo, I thought you wouldn't make it.
1224
01:14:29,833 --> 01:14:33,667
Sorry. My last witness
was a complete disaster.
1225
01:14:37,873 --> 01:14:41,792
My lady, are we to assume that
this application falls away?
1226
01:14:41,793 --> 01:14:42,823
Ah!
1227
01:14:44,593 --> 01:14:47,023
Get Charlie's wig out to her.
1228
01:14:47,113 --> 01:14:49,632
Mrs Mills, I was about
to find for the Attorney.
1229
01:14:49,633 --> 01:14:53,392
I do apologise, my lady. I have trouble
trying to be in two places at once.
1230
01:14:53,393 --> 01:14:56,393
MORAG: I do understand your problem.
1231
01:14:56,753 --> 01:14:57,823
Mr Attorney.
1232
01:14:57,913 --> 01:15:03,392
The application for judicial review
by Mrs Hussein has no basis in law.
1233
01:15:03,393 --> 01:15:06,192
The MOD must not be answerable
to an Iraqi citizen,
1234
01:15:06,193 --> 01:15:09,912
the widow of a minister
in a then-enemy government.
1235
01:15:09,913 --> 01:15:12,580
Is Mrs Hussein an Iraqi citizen?
1236
01:15:12,633 --> 01:15:19,133
She gave up her British citizenship at
the request of her husband 30 years ago.
1237
01:15:19,993 --> 01:15:23,752
The information the court
would be asking the MOD to release
1238
01:15:23,753 --> 01:15:25,503
is highly classified.
1239
01:15:25,513 --> 01:15:28,232
It would be of undoubted benefit
to an enemy.
1240
01:15:28,233 --> 01:15:29,792
Is there a likely enemy?
1241
01:15:29,793 --> 01:15:33,072
Well, the terrorist cells
that breed so easily in a free society.
1242
01:15:33,073 --> 01:15:35,712
With all due respect to the Attorney,
1243
01:15:35,713 --> 01:15:39,272
I do think he's trying to shut the
stable door after the horse has bolted.
1244
01:15:39,273 --> 01:15:43,472
There are reams of material
on depleted uranium on the internet.
1245
01:15:43,473 --> 01:15:46,672
How it's used,
how it's incorporated into tank shells,
1246
01:15:46,673 --> 01:15:49,152
what its devastating effects are.
1247
01:15:49,153 --> 01:15:52,570
- Do you have copies of this?
- Yes, I do.
1248
01:15:57,953 --> 01:15:59,273
Thank you.
1249
01:16:02,193 --> 01:16:04,632
Well, despite this,
we were in a state of war.
1250
01:16:04,633 --> 01:16:09,392
And as such, the army is both governed
and protected by the law of war.
1251
01:16:09,393 --> 01:16:14,272
If every action in a state of war
was subject to judicial review,
1252
01:16:14,273 --> 01:16:16,712
well, the government
simply couldn't function.
1253
01:16:16,713 --> 01:16:19,872
Life in government would be difficult,
I agree.
1254
01:16:19,873 --> 01:16:22,032
But now there is much judicial support
1255
01:16:22,033 --> 01:16:25,432
for proper legality,
even in times of peril.
1256
01:16:25,433 --> 01:16:29,433
As Lord Atkin famously said in 1942,
discentente,
1257
01:16:29,513 --> 01:16:35,013
"In this country, amid the clash
of arms, the laws are not silent."
1258
01:16:35,033 --> 01:16:40,533
I'll hear Mrs Mills' argument
before I hear you close, Mr Attorney.
1259
01:16:43,073 --> 01:16:48,312
Does being at war allow for the slow,
tortuous death of non-combatants
1260
01:16:48,313 --> 01:16:50,103
long after ceasefire?
1261
01:16:50,393 --> 01:16:54,752
I'm not up on modern warfare.
However, it would seem to me...
1262
01:16:54,753 --> 01:16:56,352
The hearing was very brief.
1263
01:16:56,353 --> 01:16:59,232
Oh. It's not over,
it's just the opening skirmish.
1264
01:16:59,233 --> 01:17:02,832
Now the judge has to decide whether
the MOD's decision should be reviewed.
1265
01:17:02,833 --> 01:17:05,752
- But will she hear it if she does?
- Hopefully.
1266
01:17:05,753 --> 01:17:07,392
But the Government won't give in easily.
1267
01:17:07,393 --> 01:17:11,223
And I won't give up.
I'd rather die first.
1268
01:17:11,553 --> 01:17:13,803
I'm sure they realise that.
1269
01:17:18,473 --> 01:17:19,663
Here.
1270
01:17:19,753 --> 01:17:21,023
MARC: Hi.
1271
01:17:22,273 --> 01:17:25,912
The clerk said you were still here.
I thought you might like some dinner.
1272
01:17:25,913 --> 01:17:28,632
Did you speak to Brian Mansridge?
1273
01:17:28,633 --> 01:17:31,792
- Jo, I did warn you.
- The Bridges are going to lose.
1274
01:17:31,793 --> 01:17:33,792
Yes, but Brian isn't to blame,
nor are you.
1275
01:17:33,793 --> 01:17:36,912
I was the one
who persuaded them to carry on.
1276
01:17:36,913 --> 01:17:41,552
I'd hoped we could convince
the judge that those masts cause MND.
1277
01:17:41,553 --> 01:17:44,192
Mansridge's evidence was important.
You should have spoken to him.
1278
01:17:44,193 --> 01:17:45,392
And told him what?
1279
01:17:45,393 --> 01:17:48,432
How to present his argument
in a more positive light.
1280
01:17:48,433 --> 01:17:50,272
You could have taken
a few more risks for us.
1281
01:17:50,273 --> 01:17:52,107
Jo, it's not my fault.
1282
01:17:54,073 --> 01:17:58,383
No, I know.
But sometimes you have to take a risk.
1283
01:17:59,593 --> 01:18:01,427
Let's get some dinner.
1284
01:18:08,033 --> 01:18:09,143
Help.
1285
01:18:11,953 --> 01:18:14,870
I'm sure you'll be fine eventually.
1286
01:18:18,033 --> 01:18:20,283
Well, I like the meanwhile.
1287
01:18:21,993 --> 01:18:23,103
Good.
1288
01:18:24,553 --> 01:18:28,472
My spies tell me Mrs Justice Hughes
went straight to Deed.
1289
01:18:28,473 --> 01:18:31,112
Are your spies more reliable than mine?
1290
01:18:31,113 --> 01:18:32,952
Can you also tell me
what they talked about?
1291
01:18:32,953 --> 01:18:34,703
She will eventually.
1292
01:18:35,353 --> 01:18:40,520
- Can you trust this woman?
- Oh, I'm very confident about her.
1293
01:18:42,193 --> 01:18:44,912
Professor Churchill,
is there any evidence
1294
01:18:44,913 --> 01:18:49,343
that microwaves in low doses
from TETRA masts
1295
01:18:49,433 --> 01:18:50,832
can do us any harm?
1296
01:18:50,833 --> 01:18:55,152
No. Long periods of exposure
could possibly cause problems.
1297
01:18:55,153 --> 01:18:56,992
Has this ever been demonstrated?
1298
01:18:56,993 --> 01:19:00,512
Rats subjected to prolonged exposure
of pulsed waves
1299
01:19:00,513 --> 01:19:02,832
did develop a change in cells.
1300
01:19:02,833 --> 01:19:05,823
And how long was that exposure?
1301
01:19:05,913 --> 01:19:08,823
150 continuous days.
1302
01:19:09,833 --> 01:19:11,872
Do rats use phones, professor?
1303
01:19:11,873 --> 01:19:15,040
I've never tried to call one, my lord.
1304
01:19:20,873 --> 01:19:21,943
Mrs Mills.
1305
01:19:25,553 --> 01:19:28,072
Isn't the ultimate test on humans?
1306
01:19:28,073 --> 01:19:30,032
That's the ultimate test
for all products.
1307
01:19:30,033 --> 01:19:33,032
That doesn't make them unsafe
when they reach the market.
1308
01:19:33,033 --> 01:19:37,072
Since radiation from TETRA penetrates
deeper into the head,
1309
01:19:37,073 --> 01:19:39,432
isn't that a cause for concern?
1310
01:19:39,433 --> 01:19:43,850
Some scientists do subscribe
to that concern, I don't.
1311
01:19:44,953 --> 01:19:48,992
A person living in close proximity
to a TETRA mast
1312
01:19:48,993 --> 01:19:51,952
is likely to develop
changes in their cells.
1313
01:19:51,953 --> 01:19:54,453
That hasn't been demonstrated.
1314
01:19:58,153 --> 01:20:00,712
(SIGHS) Do you have any interest
in the phone companies
1315
01:20:00,713 --> 01:20:03,047
who develop this technology?
1316
01:20:04,833 --> 01:20:10,192
- Yes, I'm on the advisory committee.
- And who pays that committee?
1317
01:20:10,193 --> 01:20:12,777
The phone companies, naturally.
1318
01:20:14,753 --> 01:20:16,073
Thank you.
1319
01:20:18,833 --> 01:20:20,263
Mrs Channing.
1320
01:20:20,753 --> 01:20:25,272
Why are the phone companies paying
this committee, Professor?
1321
01:20:25,273 --> 01:20:28,607
To ensure their technology remains safe.
1322
01:20:32,073 --> 01:20:34,712
Neil, you're stupid
not taking action against Bridges.
1323
01:20:34,713 --> 01:20:38,192
That threat of prosecution wasn't enough
to stop their proceeding with the case.
1324
01:20:38,193 --> 01:20:40,152
Makes the Home Office look toothless.
1325
01:20:40,153 --> 01:20:43,152
To go ahead
would make us appear vindictive.
1326
01:20:43,153 --> 01:20:46,070
We both stand to lose a great deal.
1327
01:20:46,633 --> 01:20:52,300
George is convinced the judge can't do
other than rule in our favour.
1328
01:21:03,033 --> 01:21:07,950
This is more pleasant than coffee
with most judges, my lady.
1329
01:21:07,993 --> 01:21:11,512
I still can't get used to that, Ian.
I think I'm being sent up.
1330
01:21:11,513 --> 01:21:13,503
(CHUCKLES) Unlikely.
1331
01:21:14,353 --> 01:21:17,687
I can't tell you my decision
in the case.
1332
01:21:20,553 --> 01:21:22,592
Are we standing on ceremony?
1333
01:21:22,593 --> 01:21:24,843
I have yet to arrive at it.
1334
01:21:25,113 --> 01:21:30,030
I hope Mr Justice Deed isn't proving
too influential, Morag.
1335
01:21:33,953 --> 01:21:38,453
- Have you been spying on me?
- The Home Secretary has.
1336
01:21:43,313 --> 01:21:45,397
How do you read her, Ian?
1337
01:21:45,673 --> 01:21:47,632
Frankly, I'm not too hopeful.
1338
01:21:47,633 --> 01:21:49,550
I'll alert the Cabinet.
1339
01:22:09,273 --> 01:22:12,152
- Where's Mrs Hussein?
- Been trying to get her all morning.
1340
01:22:12,153 --> 01:22:15,070
- (GAVEL BANGING)
- USHER: All rise.
1341
01:22:24,193 --> 01:22:26,032
Is the Attorney General not present?
1342
01:22:26,033 --> 01:22:30,192
He's being detained in
the House of Commons, my lady.
1343
01:22:30,193 --> 01:22:31,712
Is Mrs Hussein not here, either?
1344
01:22:31,713 --> 01:22:33,963
We're trying to locate her.
1345
01:22:34,033 --> 01:22:36,552
I am of the opinion that
permission should be granted
1346
01:22:36,553 --> 01:22:40,712
to allow a full oral hearing
at a time and date to be determined.
1347
01:22:40,713 --> 01:22:43,112
Is there any indication of
when that might be, my lady?
1348
01:22:43,113 --> 01:22:44,272
Is there a time constraint?
1349
01:22:44,273 --> 01:22:49,190
Mrs Hussein's permitted time
in this country is running out.
1350
01:22:49,793 --> 01:22:51,152
Would you give me a moment,
my lady?
1351
01:22:51,153 --> 01:22:52,473
Certainly.
1352
01:22:52,953 --> 01:22:54,593
JO: Where is she?
1353
01:22:57,233 --> 01:22:58,633
What?
1354
01:22:58,713 --> 01:23:01,713
Perhaps you'd share your excitement.
1355
01:23:07,153 --> 01:23:09,992
Mrs Hussein has been arrested
under the Prevention of Terrorism Act.
1356
01:23:09,993 --> 01:23:11,663
She's in Belmarsh.
1357
01:23:13,193 --> 01:23:15,943
That will not affect any hearing.
1358
01:23:20,233 --> 01:23:21,503
All rise.
1359
01:23:21,913 --> 01:23:23,503
USHER: All rise.
1360
01:23:28,993 --> 01:23:30,343
Ian!
1361
01:23:30,593 --> 01:23:32,792
How dare you walk out
of my court in that fashion!
1362
01:23:32,793 --> 01:23:35,433
Your court? Who put you there?
1363
01:23:35,513 --> 01:23:38,097
However I got there, I'm there.
1364
01:23:39,073 --> 01:23:42,632
I would suggest you're being influenced
by Mr Justice Deed.
1365
01:23:42,633 --> 01:23:45,392
It's a bad influence
that will put you out of favour.
1366
01:23:45,393 --> 01:23:48,393
Then you will need friends. My lady.
1367
01:23:53,353 --> 01:23:54,783
On what grounds?
1368
01:23:54,873 --> 01:23:58,123
The Home Office did it. I guarantee it.
1369
01:24:08,273 --> 01:24:09,503
Charlie!
1370
01:24:10,433 --> 01:24:11,952
- Where is he?
- What's going on?
1371
01:24:11,953 --> 01:24:14,592
- What's the matter?
- Where is he?
1372
01:24:14,593 --> 01:24:16,832
You did this.
Of all the cheap, despicable tricks.
1373
01:24:16,833 --> 01:24:18,832
Charlie, I will not
have you talking to Neil like this.
1374
01:24:18,833 --> 01:24:21,552
- He had Mrs Hussein arrested.
- Oh, don't be ridiculous.
1375
01:24:21,553 --> 01:24:22,912
There's no doubting
whose daughter you are.
1376
01:24:22,913 --> 01:24:24,063
So deny it.
1377
01:24:24,153 --> 01:24:27,272
The Americans have asked us
to hold on to her pending extradition.
1378
01:24:27,273 --> 01:24:30,112
She's been passing information
to Iraqi insurgents in Baghdad.
1379
01:24:30,113 --> 01:24:32,672
Well, I'm going to get her out.
1380
01:24:32,673 --> 01:24:34,463
Oh, is she?
1381
01:24:37,673 --> 01:24:39,192
What are you gonna do, Chaz?
Storm the citadel?
1382
01:24:39,193 --> 01:24:41,952
- Yeah, I feel like it.
- Then storm it with law, my darling.
1383
01:24:41,953 --> 01:24:43,272
Arm yourself with the law.
1384
01:24:43,273 --> 01:24:45,952
We will take apart
every syllable of the PTA.
1385
01:24:45,953 --> 01:24:47,992
Meanwhile, you just arm yourself
with a good left hook,
1386
01:24:47,993 --> 01:24:50,432
because one of us
is gonna floor Haughton.
1387
01:24:50,433 --> 01:24:51,832
- Yes?
- (CHUCKLES) Yes.
1388
01:24:51,833 --> 01:24:54,232
Good. Well, we'll do that then,
'cause that's my idea
1389
01:24:54,233 --> 01:24:56,400
and my ideas are the best.
1390
01:25:00,393 --> 01:25:03,872
The evidence about the effects
of low-level radiation
1391
01:25:03,873 --> 01:25:07,040
from phone masts is scandalously thin.
1392
01:25:08,153 --> 01:25:13,570
From base stations in the TETRA system,
it is almost non-existent.
1393
01:25:14,073 --> 01:25:15,903
The industry tells us
1394
01:25:15,993 --> 01:25:19,827
that no harm results from
either phone or mast.
1395
01:25:19,913 --> 01:25:22,712
Yet in one report, Dr Gerald Highland
1396
01:25:22,713 --> 01:25:26,192
of the International Institute
of Biophysics said,
1397
01:25:26,193 --> 01:25:29,232
"It is criminally irresponsible
to permit the roll-out
1398
01:25:29,233 --> 01:25:33,112
"of a technology
which has undergone minimal testing
1399
01:25:33,113 --> 01:25:38,113
"and where what testing has been done
shows health problems."
1400
01:25:38,913 --> 01:25:44,352
That TETRA masts pulsate at a rate
dangerously close to human brainwaves
1401
01:25:44,353 --> 01:25:47,672
was something
the Stewart Committee warned about.
1402
01:25:47,673 --> 01:25:51,712
The claimant, Mrs Bridges,
developed Motor Neurone Disease,
1403
01:25:51,713 --> 01:25:55,752
it's alleged, from living
under a TETRA base station
1404
01:25:55,753 --> 01:25:58,432
that Rotherwas Council allowed
One-Way phones
1405
01:25:58,433 --> 01:26:01,433
to put on the top of her flat block.
1406
01:26:02,073 --> 01:26:07,143
Five other tenants have also
developed Motor Neurone Disease.
1407
01:26:09,073 --> 01:26:11,592
Statistically, this is an aberration.
1408
01:26:11,593 --> 01:26:15,872
And written evidence for the defence
suggests that such aberrations
1409
01:26:15,873 --> 01:26:19,063
occur elsewhere
without a mast present.
1410
01:26:20,633 --> 01:26:25,717
These were not supported by long-term
epidemiological studies.
1411
01:26:27,313 --> 01:26:30,512
It is the view of the court
that the Government has failed
1412
01:26:30,513 --> 01:26:32,903
the general public miserably
1413
01:26:33,713 --> 01:26:38,072
by ignoring the internationally accepted
precautionary principle
1414
01:26:38,073 --> 01:26:40,407
when weighing unknown risks.
1415
01:26:41,353 --> 01:26:44,272
It has allowed untested phone masts
in general
1416
01:26:44,273 --> 01:26:46,833
and TETRA masts in particular
1417
01:26:47,953 --> 01:26:53,370
to be sited around the country
near homes, schools and workplaces.
1418
01:26:54,913 --> 01:26:57,032
Therefore, on the balance
of probabilities,
1419
01:26:57,033 --> 01:27:00,223
it is more likely than not, I find,
1420
01:27:00,313 --> 01:27:03,072
that the TETRA mast
on top of Harbury House
1421
01:27:03,073 --> 01:27:09,323
was a significant contributing factor
in Mrs Bridges' Motor Neurone Disease.
1422
01:27:10,393 --> 01:27:11,583
Thank you.
1423
01:27:11,673 --> 01:27:14,752
I am ordering Rotherwas Council
to give the Bridges
1424
01:27:14,753 --> 01:27:17,792
and residents of Harbury House
back their piece of mind
1425
01:27:17,793 --> 01:27:20,377
by removing the mast forthwith.
1426
01:27:22,713 --> 01:27:25,872
They must also alert all other residents
of the presence
1427
01:27:25,873 --> 01:27:28,873
and potential danger of phone masts.
1428
01:27:29,713 --> 01:27:33,112
I am awarding as general damages
for nuisance to Mrs Bridges
1429
01:27:33,113 --> 01:27:36,073
the sum of? 100,000.
1430
01:27:36,753 --> 01:27:41,312
The quantum of damages for personal
injury was agreed between counsel
1431
01:27:41,313 --> 01:27:48,223
earlier as a global sum of? 858,346,
including interest.
1432
01:27:49,033 --> 01:27:52,283
I further award the claimants this sum.
1433
01:27:57,753 --> 01:27:59,983
Hi, you coming my way?
1434
01:28:03,473 --> 01:28:04,623
John.
1435
01:28:09,433 --> 01:28:12,392
John, your ruling was very courageous.
1436
01:28:12,393 --> 01:28:13,583
Was it?
1437
01:28:14,233 --> 01:28:16,317
Seemed right at the time.
1438
01:28:16,393 --> 01:28:19,752
- It will be appealed.
- Yes, I have no doubt.
1439
01:28:19,753 --> 01:28:23,112
And when you fight it,
you ask the Court of Appeal judges
1440
01:28:23,113 --> 01:28:26,352
to sleep with their families
under a TETRA phone mast.
1441
01:28:26,353 --> 01:28:29,520
That ought to concentrate their minds.
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