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Silent Killer
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It's there.
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- Over here.
- Here.
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They're here, Gilly,
they'll get you into hospital.
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They'll help you breathe.
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I managed to get her breathing again.
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How are you doing, love?
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- She's got Motor Neurone Disease.
- Okay, we'll get her sorted.
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Is Mum going to be okay?
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If you could look in on Mrs Reed.
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- Okay, fine.
- Thank you.
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Mr Bridges, I'm Marc Thompson.
Are these your sons?
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Yes. Jack, that's Jamie.
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Could we have a word in private?
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We know about Mum's condition.
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Well, perhaps we could go to my office.
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- Can we see her, doctor?
- Yes, they're bringing her up now.
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You know, she's terrified of hospital.
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Look, Mr Bridges,
your wife is very seriously ill.
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There's tremendous pressure
on her heart and lungs.
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Couldn't she get a heart
and lung transplant?
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Well, even if we found
someone suitable as a donor,
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it wouldn't halt the deterioration.
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I'm sorry.
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Judge, a lady just wandered into court
looking for justice.
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(CHUCKLES) That's novel.
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Maybe she should just write
to Scotland Yard.
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- She wants to sue the Government.
- Don't we all?
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Her husband, three children
and seven grandchildren were killed.
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- How?
- Well, she says they were poisoned
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by depleted uranium used by
the British army in its shells.
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She was married to a former member
of the Iraqi Government.
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Will you see her?
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I'm not inclined to, Coop.
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I said I'd ask you.
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It seems very well-documented,
Mrs Hussein.
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What you really need is a lawyer,
not a judge.
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All the lawyers turn me down.
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It'll be a hard fight.
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I read about you in the newspapers.
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Oh.
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You're my last hope.
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- Can I keep these?
- Yes.
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I have plenty of copies.
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No Vera, Monty?
I thought you were hearing a rape case?
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Hmm, it hasn't got
interesting enough for her yet.
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Is that any good?
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It's not bad.
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Hmm, they've got better
at the vegetarian options.
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Can you take this directions hearing
in the phone masts case?
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Not really.
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Mrs Mills and my ex-wife
are for each of the parties.
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Well, I see neither as an
absolute impediment.
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They might.
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The claimant is likely to die
if we delay.
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She alleges that the signal from
these types of mast caused her illness.
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I've had the master of the rolls on,
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telling me how sensitive this
whole matter is for the Government
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and the Solicitor General.
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- The Home Office has an interest.
- How?
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The masts carry police communications.
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The Home Office is loath
to abandon them.
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Won't it be the taxpayer
who's the loser again if they do?
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And your old friend Tim Listfield.
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Well, it was his company
that put up the masts.
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Would you take a look at this?
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An Iraqi widow wants to sue
the Government
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over the use of depleted uranium
in shells.
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Well, that'll waste everyone's time.
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Read the papers.
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You take the directions hearing,
I'll look at the widow's papers.
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- My lord?
- I'll have the homity pie.
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Is this at the instigation
of the Home Office, Ian?
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The Home Secretary wouldn't presume,
considering who's for the defendant.
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No, the Attorney expressed a concern
as Head of the Bar.
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He need have no concern. Please.
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Thank you.
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It's how it will look, John.
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What's really behind this move, Ian?
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Frankly, money.
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The Home Office's entire
Safe Communications System is at stake.
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And if they've got it wrong
and the claimant
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really has developed
Motor Neurone Disease?
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We might have to consider her
a casualty of progress.
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Why couldn't you have grabbed
this phone mast hearing?
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- Not a safe pair of hands.
- Deed shouldn't be hearing it
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with Mrs Mills and Mrs Channing
on opposite sides.
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- They're both past items.
- That's not what I've heard.
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Do you have good sources?
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None as good as you.
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Enough gossip.
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I want to take your mind on something
the Lord Chief Justice is floating.
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John, do you have a moment?
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Yeah, sure, I'm reading for a case.
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- How's it looking?
- Difficult.
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- Are you sitting down here?
- Not yet.
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Are you seeing your ex-wife?
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Well, there was a recent case in which
I granted her injunctive relief.
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Don't be clever, John.
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I thought you weren't into emotion.
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Well, as attractive as she is,
we were never compatible,
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it took us a while to find that out.
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She's before you in the phone mast case.
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Along with Jo Mills.
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There's a move not to let you hear it.
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Thank you.
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The Chief wondered if you'd like to be
our representative
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at one of The Hague
War Crimes Tribunals.
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Is that going to keep me out of trouble?
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No. I could pop over at weekends
or you could pop back.
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Why doesn't the Chief ask me himself?
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It's rather like the honours list.
He'd sooner not be openly turned down.
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He knows that we're friendly.
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Does he know how friendly?
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If he did, he wouldn't be
so friendly towards me.
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It's an offer that most High Court
judges would give their ears for.
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Then what's he asking me for, then?
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Oh, you have a reputation for fairness,
you strive to be just,
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you're outspoken in your opinions on
what you think is wrong with society.
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Is that a requirement for the job
in The Hague?
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I would think not.
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On the other hand,
the Chief may want to see
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some of those stuffed shirts out there
brought down a peg or two.
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Is it possible he's working
with the Home Office
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to get me off this phone mast case?
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Well, that begs the question.
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Who might they get who would
serve their purposes better?
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Well, I'm not going to give them
the opportunity, Joe.
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Oh, yeah?
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Bye.
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Bye.
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Hello there. Hello, Mimi.
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Coop, ask Mrs Mills to spare me
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a few moments at the end of the day,
would you, please?
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- Just Mrs Mills, Judge?
- I'll see Mrs Channing separately.
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Okay.
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Judge, Mrs Mills didn't feel it
appropriate to meet you.
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Not ever?
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She didn't say.
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Oh, do me a favour, Brian.
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Anything at all for you, Rita,
I've got the kettle on.
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No, I need somebody to look after Mimi.
The Judge has disappeared.
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- What, into thin air?
- I'm assuming...
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It's difficult to keep up
with him these days.
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Perhaps you shouldn't try, Rita.
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Well, I suppose I could look after her.
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It's just I'm not very good
with animals. Dogs make me nervous.
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What, tiny little Mimi?
It's only for a short while.
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She won't bite, Brian,
she's vegetarian.
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Yeah, so is the Judge.
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Back.
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Nice doggie.
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- (KNOCKING ON DOOR)
- Here.
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Sir John Deed is here, miss.
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Oh. Tell him I've gone.
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Uh... The thing is, he's here.
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No, I'm shortly to appear before him.
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That's what he's here about.
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- Thank you, Tony.
- I'll organise you some tea.
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It's not that sort of occasion,
thank you, Tony.
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- What?
- Nothing. Nothing.
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I need to take your view
about my hearing this case.
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- Did you ask to hear it?
- No, Monty Everard asked me to.
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Does George have a view?
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I'm talking to both sides.
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Then can we rely on your impartiality?
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Can you rely on anybody for that?
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It's especially important here.
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Marc and I have set a date
for our wedding.
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I see. When?
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During the boys' half-term.
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Oh, well.
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That seems indecently hasty.
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It's what we want.
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Is your case going to be ready?
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Well, it's now or never
for this claimant,
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- she's so very ill.
- Hmm.
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You look good.
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Aren't you going to wish me well?
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I'm not sure that I want to see you
happily married.
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My mind is made up.
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Well, see you in court.
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Well, at least in your current mood
you won't favour Jo.
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- George, I never did that.
- It looked that way.
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And are you equally concerned that
I might be prejudiced towards her?
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There's an awful lot riding on this case
for the Government.
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George, you shouldn't tell me that.
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As if you didn't know.
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Was it Neil who got the Chief to
offer me the War Crimes job?
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Well, very possibly. It's not the
most sought-after judicial office.
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Would you like to have dinner?
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With a little more notice, maybe.
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I'm meeting Neil at the Commons.
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All right.
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This Iraqi's widow has something, John,
but she's going about it the wrong way.
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How should she go about it?
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Judicial review of the MOD's refusal
to order an inquiry into the use of DU.
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I mean, she'll get nowhere
trying to claim
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that her family died as a direct result
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of our troops using depleted uranium
in their tank shells.
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Is there a case under the 1998 Act?
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The Lord Justice Rix and
Mr Justice Forbes made that quite clear.
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- Hmm.
- The deaths of relatives
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of the claimants in Iraq at the time
when UK was an occupying power
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did not fall within the scope
of the European Convention.
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No, she should seek judicial review,
john, it's clear-cut.
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Well, why don't you hear it?
You've got a ticket.
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I'm not sure I can.
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She'll need a decent lawyer.
Would Mrs Mills run with it?
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She's not very accommodating
to me at present.
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Well, she seems made for it.
Yep, I'm late.
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Why, I've never seen him so animated.
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Yes, I think we've got him hooked.
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USHER: All rise.
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Mrs Channing.
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There is no good legal
foundation for this.
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Mrs Bridges' claim that
she fell to Motor Neurone Disease
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as a result of a mobile phone mast
on a block of flats
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owned by Rotherwas Council
is without evidential foundation.
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The defence is based on
the Court of Appeal's ruling
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that on the balance of probabilities,
there is no real risk from phone masts.
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Instead, there is only a perceived risk.
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And as such, there is no reason
for stopping masts.
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T-Mobile UK Ltd and others
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and the Secretary of State
and Harrogate Borough Council,
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decided by the Court of Appeal, 2004.
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Yes, I am familiar with the ruling.
Mrs Channing, thank you. Mrs Mills?
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The type of mast referred to in the case
my learned friend cited
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are very different from the mast
on top of the block
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where Mr and Mrs Bridges live.
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This is a TETRA mast,
which emits pulsed waves
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at 17.6 megahertz in phases of four.
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These types of masts
are used by the police
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for their internal communications.
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17.6 megahertz is very close to the
16 megahertz brainwaves in humans,
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and as such, cause brain dysfunction.
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One such dysfunction is the depletion
of calcium in the brain,
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a significant contributory factor
in Motor Neurone Disease.
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Mrs Bridges has developed this illness
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since the mast was erected
on top of their flat.
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Five other people,
from a total of 198 in the block,
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have also developed
Motor Neurone Disease.
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Three people, including Mr Bridges,
have developed stomach cancer,
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whilst two have leukaemia.
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Statistically, one person in 100,000 is
likely to develop any of these diseases.
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We would ask that you set this down
for a full hearing
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at the earliest possible date.
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Mrs Channing.
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According to Disraeli, there are lies,
damned lies, and statistics.
250
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The statistics my learned friend
has presented do not form a case.
251
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The head of the Institute of
Scientific Research
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said recently that there is no link
between phone masts and ill health
253
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other than neurosis from perceived risk.
254
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Their lordship's ruling in the
Court of Appeal was that
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we cannot halt progress simply because
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we believe these things
are making us ill.
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Thank you, Mrs Channing.
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I don't think we could infer
quite such a sweeping conclusion
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from the Court of Appeal's decision.
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Technology and social knowledge of it
is very developmental
261
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and so should the law be.
262
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The Court of Appeal did not freeze-dry
this important part of common law.
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I am going to set this down
for a hearing. Mr Harrison?
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Yes, my lord. The earliest date
would be the 29th, I'm afraid.
265
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Hmm, is there nothing sooner?
How frail is Mrs Bridges' health?
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Her most recent medical prognosis.
The matter is very urgent.
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- All right. Mr Harrison?
- You could fit it
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at the beginning of next week, my lord.
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- Monday?
- Hmm.
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All right, Monday? Monday it is.
271
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But, my lord, that hardly gives us
time enough to assemble our witnesses.
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You must have known of this possibility,
Mrs Channing. Do your best.
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10:00, Monday.
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USHER: All rise.
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Ask Mrs Mills to join me
in chambers, would you, Coop?
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Just Mrs Mills, Judge?
277
00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:29,347
Mrs Channing's not going to be
interested in the Iraqi widow, is she?
278
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,039
Mrs Mills, the Judge wants a word.
279
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,439
- Is it a summons or a request?
- Oh, it's a request.
280
00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,159
Well, perhaps he's going to offer you
something to win you back.
281
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,994
George, he has more chance
of winning you back.
282
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- (KNOCKING ON DOOR)
- Yeah.
283
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- Mrs Mills, Judge.
- Do you want some tea?
284
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Got a lot of work to get ready
before Monday.
285
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Thanks, Coop.
286
00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:02,510
How's Michael? Mimi misses him.
287
00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,239
He's involved in so many
activities at school,
288
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getting home at the weekend
seems like a distraction.
289
00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,890
Doesn't he like going home?
290
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,000
What's this about, John?
291
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,590
Have you heard from Mrs Hussein,
292
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the widow of a former minister
in the Iraqi Government?
293
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:20,839
Should I have?
294
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,359
She's written to prominent lawyers
looking for abstract justice.
295
00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:25,119
She wants to sue the Government
296
00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:29,287
over the use of depleted uranium
in shells in Iraq.
297
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,279
- You're an obvious choice.
- Well, clearly not obvious enough.
298
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,159
Come on. You're hardly an unknown.
299
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,399
Then how come I'm not the youngest
High Court judge on the bench?
300
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,519
Perhaps I chose the wrong person
to sleep with.
301
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,159
But you were never
very good at choosing.
302
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,559
Well, who pursued me
when I was his pupil,
303
00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,719
even when my husband was dying?
304
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,399
Well, I feel guilty about that,
but I don't regret it.
305
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,599
No, you said regret was a waste of life.
306
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,600
I do regret how I treated you.
I wish I could put that right.
307
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,879
I am still in love with you.
308
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,439
No, John, you're pursuing something
you can no longer have,
309
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,439
whilst pursuing someone
you obviously can.
310
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,550
Ouch.
311
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,630
Jo, I will carry on loving you
no matter what you do, or I do.
312
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,759
Don't, John, please. It's not just Marc
I have to think about,
313
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:28,879
there's Michael, too.
314
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,719
We could start again.
We could do it better.
315
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,990
No, John.
316
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,030
It's too late.
I am marrying Michael's father.
317
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,479
Would you read Mrs Hussein's file?
318
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,897
- I haven't got time. I need a life.
- Jo.
319
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,870
This is your life.
320
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,279
So will your neurosurgeon
actually give evidence for us?
321
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,399
Yeah, I'm sure he will.
322
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,400
Well, I need all the help I can get.
323
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,919
It's going to be hard to prove
phone masts cause Motor Neurone Disease.
324
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,679
- Did Mr Mansridge tell you that?
- No, of course not.
325
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,799
Why... Why are you
putting these plates out?
326
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,959
Oh, did you want to eat out?
327
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,999
No, I don't want this china used!
328
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,119
Why? Is there something wrong with them?
329
00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:19,470
Jo! You constantly question what I ask.
330
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,159
It's like I'm being cross-examined
by you the whole time.
331
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,159
- No, I wasn't doing that.
- I asked you not to use them.
332
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,310
- Marc, what's wrong?
- It's just the two of us.
333
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,679
Aren't the boys home tonight?
334
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,759
No, they had to do something at school.
I did tell you.
335
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,990
We lead such busy lives.
336
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,504
What's wrong? You are so tense.
337
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,087
- Nothing.
- Is it something I've done?
338
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,670
No.
339
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,670
(EXHALES) I may...
340
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,159
I may have to go back to South Africa,
341
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,799
answer questions about some procedures
I helped pioneer.
342
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,800
What sort of procedures?
343
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,030
Can I help?
344
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,604
No, it's nothing, really,
it's just stupid people.
345
00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:15,270
Sorry.
346
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:28,047
Uh, justice may demand that Mrs Hussein
gets a hearing in an English court,
347
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,239
which she has no hope in hell of
doing so, not even with you pushing it.
348
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,519
It won't stop me trying, Joe.
349
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,639
Yeah, but the cost to the Government,
should she win, would be colossal.
350
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,359
And what's that got to do with justice?
351
00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,150
Well, when hasn't it?
352
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,239
If the use of depleted uranium
is as extensive as she claims,
353
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,999
then the whole area
would be contaminated.
354
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:55,079
Those radioactive particles have a half
life of four and a half billion years.
355
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,919
Well, the present government expects
to be in office that long.
356
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,039
Yeah, well, there is
favourable jurisprudence here.
357
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,550
Uh, the Rachel Lubbe case.
358
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,319
The defendant in that case controlled,
from England,
359
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,439
the actions of those running
the asbestos mines in South Africa.
360
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,230
If Mrs Hussein can prove,
as Mrs Lubbe did,
361
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:20,159
that substantial justice would
not be done in the local jurisdiction,
362
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,870
then England can be ruled
the forum conveniens.
363
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,710
But it'd be a long, hard
legal wrangle, John.
364
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,217
- It might be worth trying, though.
- Yes.
365
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:41,910
- Jo?
- Hmm?
366
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,417
- It's gone 2:00.
- Yeah, I'm almost done.
367
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,239
You can't push yourself like this
the whole time.
368
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,559
This Iraqi woman lost her entire family.
369
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,359
She wants the British use
of depleted uranium
370
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,759
to be publicly reviewed in court.
371
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,344
Well, it won't bring them back.
372
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,110
No.
373
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,950
Darling, I'm always concerned
for how this will exhaust you.
374
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,999
Why don't you think about yourself more,
maybe take on less work?
375
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,167
Especially with our wedding coming up.
376
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,470
Yes, I will. I promise you.
377
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,759
CHARLIE: Unreal. Breakfast at 9:00
on a Saturday.
378
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,039
You never used to get out of bed before
midday when you were a teenager. Thanks.
379
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,520
I still don't.
380
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,799
How's that stalking barrister of yours?
381
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,120
He's okay.
382
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,999
I don't want a serious relationship
right now. He'd be competition.
383
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,250
How's it going with you and dame Morag?
384
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,159
Nothing's gonna change with you and Jo,
Dad, until you change.
385
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,750
I remain eternally optimistic.
386
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,320
On what basis?
387
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,924
You going to do this research for me?
388
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,479
Why not? I've only got three cases
I'm running and no social life.
389
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,599
- You're too conscientious.
- How can you not be, Dad?
390
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,039
Well, most barristers recognise
391
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,799
that 85% of their clients
who get to court are guilty.
392
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,119
- You didn't.
- Yeah, well,
393
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,799
I didn't have a social life, either.
394
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,279
And here I am agreeing to help
a potential litigant access to justice
395
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,030
like there's a shortage of cases.
396
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,599
I get it from you, then.
397
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,759
Well, you could have been like your mum.
398
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,640
Well thought of, well placed, well paid.
399
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,679
Yeah, but she's not happy, though,
is she?
400
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,097
I'd be surprised if she was,
living with a politician.
401
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,154
I'll do your research.
402
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,407
On the internet, in the small hours,
instead of going clubbing.
403
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,790
- Michael?
- Yeah?
404
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,719
That's pretty impressive.
405
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,999
Could you live in one of those?
406
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,110
Yeah.
407
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,684
Are you glad you're back?
408
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,439
School's much better.
England seems very crowded.
409
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,679
Huh, it's gonna get worse.
410
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,359
The Government wants to build
another four million houses.
411
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:24,439
They can build them in South Africa.
There's loads of room there.
412
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,479
Michael, do your brothers
ever talk about their mother?
413
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,730
No, they're not allowed to.
414
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,957
- Why not?
- She did leave them, Jo.
415
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,630
Hmm. Do they miss her?
416
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,970
Best not to talk about her.
417
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,119
- How serious are you at Scrabble?
- Well, we can beat Dad.
418
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,920
So can I. We mustn't go in there.
419
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,239
- Why? It's the sitting room.
- Dad doesn't like us in his room.
420
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,519
- Well, we'll be very tidy.
- He doesn't want us to.
421
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,759
He says there has to be one room
in the house that doesn't get messed up.
422
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,594
I'll take responsibility. Come on.
423
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,110
Come on, you.
424
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,959
Is the Lord Chancellor joining us?
425
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,599
He hopes to shortly,
along with the Lord Chief Justice.
426
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,999
Well, the Chief is really the
only person who can remove Deed.
427
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,917
From this current case?
428
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,439
You know he can't do that,
Home Secretary.
429
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,599
The Home Office has spent 2.6 billion
on this phone system.
430
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,119
We hope to recoup some of this
by selling it to police forces abroad.
431
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:44,439
If there's a huge negative impact
from this case, we won't be able to.
432
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,279
Well, worse still, Ian, if the system
is flawed, it will have to be removed.
433
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,280
The system isn't flawed.
434
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,199
Yeah, well, there are questions.
435
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,999
No, it's in court because of
the perversity of our judges.
436
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,417
The case has some merit, sir.
437
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,719
Isn't this meeting to ensure it hasn't?
438
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,559
If you pressure Deed, Percy,
he does the opposite to what you want.
439
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,399
I thought Deed was in a
compromised position
440
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,359
for failing to report his daughter
to the Bar Council.
441
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,079
It's a minor peccadillo, Home Secretary.
442
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,400
Oh, is it?
443
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,919
We should discuss Mr Justice Deed's
long and medium-term future, sir.
444
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,159
Neither of which helps the Home Office
over its current predicament.
445
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,199
Well, it might for future crises, Percy.
446
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,450
What we need is for the courts
to function smoothly.
447
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,759
Then the proposal is?
448
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,399
In the medium term, sir,
it might be very convenient
449
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,759
if by chance Sir John were to be
called for jury service.
450
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,594
Is this quite serious?
451
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,839
I mean, that would only tie him up
for a fortnight.
452
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,257
And isn't selection supposed
to be random?
453
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,799
Yes, it is, sir.
454
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:57,217
The right sort of trial, however, could
last a lot, lot longer than two weeks.
455
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,087
And long-term?
456
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,999
Send him off to The Hague
to represent our side
457
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,039
at one of the War Crimes Tribunals.
458
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,719
Where he causes as many problems.
459
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,679
Then they'd be for the
Foreign Office to deal with.
460
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,799
My problem is current, Ian.
461
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,799
The master of the rolls feels
Mr Justice Deed must be bound
462
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,199
by the Appeal Court's ruling
in the previous phone masts case.
463
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,999
Ah, if Deed was constrained by rules
and judicial precedence,
464
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,750
I'd feel encouraged, Mr James.
465
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,230
He never has been.
466
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,039
JAMES: Then he would be appealed, sir.
467
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,707
This had better not go that far.
468
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,304
Send me an email with the
Lord Chancellor's view. Percy.
469
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,710
DEED: Mrs Mills.
470
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,679
With your leave,
because of Mrs Bridges' frail health,
471
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,519
I'd like to call her before the experts.
472
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,630
Sure.
473
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,919
Are you Gillian Bridges
of 64 Harbury House
474
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,079
and are you a computer operator?
475
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,910
Yes, but I can't work.
476
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,639
Can you tell the court
what happened to you?
477
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,390
About three and a half years ago,
478
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,750
I began to feel drained, so tired.
479
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,279
Eventually, I could barely
get out of bed.
480
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,719
What did your doctor say?
481
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,590
He thought it was chronic fatigue.
Then later, ME.
482
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,960
Then my husband got ill.
483
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,950
He was a policeman,
so he was always physically fit.
484
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,604
But he kept feeling sick.
485
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,030
The doctors found stomach cancer.
486
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,919
Can you recall any incident
that caused a life change?
487
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,420
The mast they put on our roof.
488
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,760
Four years ago now.
489
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,799
That was the start
of everyone's troubles.
490
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,919
What happened?
491
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,004
The council sold the roof space
to One-Way, the phone company.
492
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,319
They had a contract to put in
this TETRA system for the police.
493
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,639
- Were you warned about this?
- No. They didn't ask our permission.
494
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,759
- Was there no sort of consultation?
- The council said it was legal.
495
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,350
- Do you own your flat?
- Yes. 24 others do, too.
496
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,000
But the council hold the head lease.
497
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,680
I see. Thank you.
498
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,119
Mrs Bridges, did you notice any changes
following the siting of the mast?
499
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,119
When the phone company switched it on,
500
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,790
it was like suddenly
I was shocked awake.
501
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,600
It happened dozens of times a night.
502
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,879
Did it affect anyone else
in the building?
503
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,470
Nearly everyone.
504
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,590
And at the school just behind us,
505
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,270
23 children were sent home
506
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,910
with headaches, dizziness
and nosebleeds
507
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,919
in the first week
the mast was switched on.
508
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,159
Did they know that the mast
had been switched on?
509
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,190
No.
510
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,830
No one warned them.
511
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,390
When we complained,
512
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,980
the council's Health and Safety Officer
said the mast was harmless.
513
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,559
The police were using them
up and down the country.
514
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,560
"They were perfectly safe," he said.
515
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Thank you.
516
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,959
Did your husband use this system
when he was a policeman?
517
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,390
Yes. A lot of officers
had similar symptoms.
518
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,704
Jake started doing research
on the internet.
519
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:33,784
He found that the Police Federation
had commissioned its own report.
520
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,430
Policemen weren't just getting ill,
three died.
521
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,519
Not just from the masts,
522
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,679
but from the receivers
they carried on their belts.
523
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,150
Mrs Bridges, we don't know
if that is so, do we?
524
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,734
Unless you have clear proof?
525
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,750
No.
526
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,279
Did the Federation publish its report?
527
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,390
They sat on it,
528
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,319
- under pressure from the Home Office.
- Ah...
529
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,479
Do you know that for a fact,
Mrs Bridges?
530
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,510
No.
531
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,999
But we think that's what happened.
532
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,279
You see, that might prove the case,
but unless you show it so,
533
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,759
I can't make any use of it when I come
to make my judgement, you see?
534
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,910
Go on.
535
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,760
Did you read the report?
536
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,710
Yes.
537
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,759
Do you want to take a rest,
Mrs Bridges?
538
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,790
No.
539
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,959
Mrs Bridges, what was it in that report
540
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,919
that you thought the Home Office
wanted to suppress?
541
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,920
My lord...
542
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,839
Well, fortunately we don't
have an impressionable jury,
543
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,590
do we, Mrs Channing?
544
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,607
But be careful, Mrs Mills.
545
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,320
Mrs Bridges?
546
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,630
It said that this government,
547
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,030
its scientists and the phone industry
548
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,590
will be responsible
for more civilian deaths
549
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,597
- in peacetime...
- Hey?
550
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,254
...than all the terrorist organisations
put together.
551
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,030
Mrs Bridges, before you fell ill,
552
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,287
did you work at home on a computer
or in an office?
553
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,390
Both. Mostly at an office.
554
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,494
Was it a big office with many computers?
555
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,560
About 30 or so.
556
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,199
And how long did you work there?
557
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,310
About seven years,
558
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,927
until illness forced me to give it up.
559
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:54,319
Did you ever come across a report
by Professor Ian Kennedy Martin,
560
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,520
low-level frequency radiation,
the sort emitted from computers,
561
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:05,710
indeed by television sets,
light bulbs, electrical wiring?
562
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,430
No.
563
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,799
Well, if you had, Mrs Bridges,
564
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,950
and before you were made aware
of TETRA phone masts,
565
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,599
you might be suing
the computer manufacturer
566
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,767
or even your ex-employers.
567
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,039
Professor Kennedy Martin
ascribes to computer use
568
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,874
all the symptoms that you ascribe
to a harmless phone mast.
569
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,519
Mrs Mills returned the Mrs Hussein file.
570
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,550
She said she's too busy.
571
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,974
- Has she gone?
- She was on her way out.
572
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,390
George?
573
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,340
Was your day better than mine?
574
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,599
The victim was in the witness box.
575
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,399
Fortunately, we don't have a jury
and the medical evidence
576
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,799
can't prove the source
of Motor Neurone Disease.
577
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,919
You have to win this, George.
578
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,279
I've spent an awful lot of taxpayers'
money on this phone system
579
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,759
and I'm going to have
to spend an awful lot more
580
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,839
getting it right if it goes pear-shaped.
581
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,679
It's not just the money.
582
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,479
It'd look like we don't care
about our policemen or anyone else.
583
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,159
Well, there's no research
that says these masts are dangerous.
584
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,744
None says they're safe, either.
585
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,079
You'd better shower and change
or we'll be late.
586
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,639
Oh, I don't know if I want to go.
587
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,950
I've spent rather a lot on a new dress!
588
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,799
He's dying to see you. There's Monty.
589
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,319
Ah, Monty.
Nice to see one friendly face.
590
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,639
Ah, you're the guest of honour.
591
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,599
I didn't give these people the pay rise
they wanted.
592
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,679
Oh, I'm sure
they don't blame you, darling.
593
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Hello, Vera.
594
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,279
- Did someone paint that dress on you?
- Oh!
595
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,364
To think, I once had a figure like that
before I had children.
596
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,599
Is anyone getting a drink
597
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,399
or are we all going to be breathalysed
when we get out of here?
598
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,599
I mean, it's all right for you.
You've still got your official car.
599
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,399
Well, I don't drink alcohol, Monty.
600
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,990
Well, we do.
601
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,270
Oh.
602
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,439
- There we are, Vera...
- Hmm.
603
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,590
Monty.
604
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,070
Oh, don't go. Thank you.
605
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,510
Oh, Tim! How nice.
606
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,310
George.
607
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,839
You look like
you've just stepped off the catwalk.
608
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,639
Well, I could stand here
and listen to this all evening.
609
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,040
Is Neil here?
610
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,230
Hmm?
611
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,799
I suppose he's had to play the host.
612
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,199
The Home Office
are paying for this, after all.
613
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,439
Oh, I thought my company was.
614
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,690
Hmm. Well, the champagne
is rather good.
615
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,799
Uh, you know Monty and Vera Everard,
Tim Listfield.
616
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,679
Yeah. Uh, if you'll excuse me, George.
617
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,279
Hmm. What's got into him, Vera?
618
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,070
I'll go and find out.
619
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,559
How's your case going, George?
620
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,590
Oh. Early days.
621
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,359
My company stands to lose
a lot of money.
622
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,360
You know we're in front of the Deed?
623
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,110
Deja vu.
624
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,950
Hardly, Tim.
625
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,960
Gosh, I miss you.
626
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,719
Would you like to have dinner one night?
627
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:45,280
What? Just me?
628
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,670
Would Neil care?
629
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,094
Well, that depends
what you have in mind.
630
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,310
I'd better find him.
631
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,519
I'm surprised you've got the nerve
to turn up, Tim.
632
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,759
The Home Office had the nerve
to ask my company to pay.
633
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,677
Oh, I didn't know that.
634
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,344
I thought it was rapprochement.
635
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,679
There is a sensitive case going on
involving One-Way's phone system.
636
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,439
Well, neither my company
nor the Home Office is being sued.
637
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,199
Your company installed the system
for the police.
638
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,450
It could track back to you and me, Tim.
639
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,247
We should talk about that.
640
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,719
Let's have breakfast.
641
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:35,970
Home Secretary. Hello, Tim.
642
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,359
He's wanted, is he, Percy?
643
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,870
They are ready.
644
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,070
I'll have my assistant
fix up a meeting, Neil.
645
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Do you want to meet him?
646
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,150
I'll think about it.
647
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,999
Right. Mrs Mills, come with me, please.
648
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,919
- Well, just give me a minute.
- No, no, this won't wait. Come on.
649
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,270
Okay.
650
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,127
How do we like our towels?
651
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,754
Clean. Fresh-smelling.
652
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,870
Neatly folded.
Yours and mine in their own places.
653
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,999
Is it to do with hygiene?
654
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,239
Well, cross-infection in hospital
can be devastating.
655
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,599
- But Marc...
- Hmm.
656
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,239
We're not in hospital.
657
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:36,990
See, now you're being a lawyer,
argumentative.
658
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,119
Why don't we celebrate
our differences? Hmm?
659
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,230
Okay.
660
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,679
Marc, the other day when I was
playing Scrabble with the boys...
661
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,879
- Mmm-hmm.
- ...they wouldn't go
662
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,999
into the sitting room.
They said it was your room.
663
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,750
Yeah. That's right.
It's a sanctuary of order.
664
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,040
Marc, the whole house is.
665
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,719
What's this, a speech for the defence?
666
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,159
Look, children need boundaries.
667
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,994
Better off with them, aren't they?
668
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,680
I suppose.
669
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,397
They are well-behaved, I grant you.
670
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,634
I've got a really,
really early start tomorrow.
671
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,030
USHER: All rise.
672
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,080
Mrs Mills.
673
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,919
I'm afraid Mrs Bridges
is not well enough to be recalled.
674
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,959
Is she likely to be well enough
in the near future?
675
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,959
Well, her lungs are collapsing
due to her chest muscles wasting.
676
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,399
- We might have a result there.
- I think we might.
677
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,879
Do you have another witness available?
678
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,214
Yes, Professor Richard Brams.
He's emeritus professor
679
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:25,279
of Molecular Neurology
at Oxford University.
680
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,280
- A leading expert?
- He is. He may not admit it.
681
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,879
Professor Brams, have you
read the May 2000 report
682
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,279
of the Independent Expert Group
on mobile phones and health,
683
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,079
- the Stewart report?
- You know I've read it
684
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,997
and what I think of it.
685
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,279
Nevertheless, Professor,
can you open your bundle?
686
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,510
It's bundle C, item three.
687
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,359
I don't think any more of it
than I did when it was written.
688
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,777
Less, in fact, on reflection.
689
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,679
- Why is that?
- This technology moves on daily,
690
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,199
- the Stewart report hasn't.
- Are you saying it's out of date?
691
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,959
It is. There was useful information
in the report,
692
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,630
mostly hidden.
693
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,559
The report basically says
that mobile phones are safe to use.
694
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,670
They're not.
695
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,799
Uh, phone masts are more dangerous,
TETRA masts more dangerous still...
696
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,399
In your opinion, Professor.
697
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,400
Yes, everything I say is my opinion.
698
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,319
Why are TETRA masts so dangerous,
uh, your opinion, Professor?
699
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,150
Because pulsed electromagnetic waves
at 17.6 megahertz
700
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:37,399
interfere with our natural brain rhythm.
701
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,279
Even Stewart warned against
using any communication instruments
702
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,590
that pulse above 16 megahertz
for that very reason.
703
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,319
Have you examined the mast
on top of Harbury House?
704
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,880
You know I did.
705
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,279
Yes, Professor. Can you tell the court
what type of mast it is?
706
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:01,350
Yeah. It's a TETRA mast
pulsating at 17.6 megahertz.
707
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,079
In excess of the 16 megahertz
advised by the Stewart Committee.
708
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,710
Hmm. 17.6 is in excess of 16!
709
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,159
What happens to people
710
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,839
when they're exposed
to this sort of electromagnetic pulse?
711
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,679
I don't know. All people are different.
They react in different ways.
712
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,239
If you want to ask me what's likely,
713
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:30,319
a great deal of cellular change
takes place in the brain
714
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,479
to people living near a mast.
715
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,319
Are these changes beneficial?
716
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,599
There are never beneficial changes
in cells from low-level radiation.
717
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,919
Is exposure to low-level waves
harmful, then?
718
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,799
That's what scientists
are continually arguing about.
719
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,990
Those that are employed
720
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,199
by the manufacturers of this technology
say they're not.
721
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,679
I am of the opinion that low-level
electromagnetic radiation
722
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,030
leads to heart problems,
blood problems, tumours,
723
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,719
calcium interference,
reduction of night-time melatonin.
724
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,639
People sleeping within range
of a TETRA mast,
725
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,439
such as the one
where Mr and Mrs Bridges live,
726
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,639
- could be severely affected.
- Oh.
727
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,719
- Increased arthritis.
- Goodness.
728
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:15,879
Ear problems, leukaemia,
childhood cancer,
729
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,919
sleep problems, depression...
730
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,839
Is there some difficulty, Mrs Channing?
731
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,110
- No, my lord.
- Hmm. Mrs Mills.
732
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,239
Is all this information well-documented?
733
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:27,270
It is.
734
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,439
And even more serious
is microwave radiation
735
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,599
changes the permeability
of the blood-brain barrier.
736
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,430
What happens then?
737
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:42,070
Well, uh, microwaves
affect the particles in the body
738
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,439
by changing their size.
739
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,320
They can change them
both smaller and larger.
740
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,399
By changing the permeability
at the blood-brain barrier
741
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,439
and changing the size of the particles,
742
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,719
unwanted particles
can enter or leave the brain.
743
00:44:56,720 --> 00:45:01,030
It's likely that calcium particles
leaving the brain
744
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,537
caused Mrs Bridges'
Motor Neurone Disease.
745
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,270
Mrs Channing.
746
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,639
Are you an expert
on Motor Neurone Disease, Professor?
747
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,799
I'm expressing an opinion.
748
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,884
Is it not true
that no one knows the cause of MND?
749
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:28,230
Microwaves change the permeability
of the blood-brain barrier,
750
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,550
calcium efflux results.
751
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,039
That's little more than coincidence,
is it not?
752
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,320
Well, if all these so-called
coincidences are piled
753
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,270
one on top of another,
754
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,279
there comes a point
we have to consider it a fact.
755
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,839
Had you proceeded
with your brain research on that basis,
756
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,159
then tried to get it peer reviewed,
you'd have been laughed at.
757
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,199
That is the only way
a lot of science can go forward,
758
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,750
by hypothesis, by imaginative leaps.
759
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,079
You said, in both oral
and written evidence,
760
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,990
that the mast
on Mr and Mrs Bridges' block
761
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,519
gives off microwaves,
762
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,430
that these can cause damage
in cells, in humans...
763
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,937
And animals. Animals as well.
764
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,159
Police dogs and horses
kept in police stations
765
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,719
where they've got TETRA masts
are adversely affected.
766
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:23,839
There's no conclusive proof
767
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,239
that microwaves
cause such problems, is there?
768
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:28,574
What do you call conclusive?
769
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,437
What the courts accept.
770
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,790
Courts of law cannot test
matters of science.
771
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,719
This point has been made time and again.
772
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:41,879
All courts of law can do
is to accept the opinion of scientists
773
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,630
when we say "an effect
follows a given cause".
774
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:51,750
It's my opinion that low-level radiation
is bio-accumulative.
775
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,319
What does that mean, Professor?
776
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,879
When massive radiation
hits the cells of a body,
777
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,759
then the immune system
responds with vitamins
778
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,480
to repair the site.
779
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,799
Unfortunately, the immune system
doesn't recognise low-level radiation
780
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,239
which accumulates in the cells,
causing them to break down.
781
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:16,490
When it does,
it's too late for the body to respond.
782
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,679
Are you saying, then, that everyone
will be adversely affected?
783
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,439
Well, assuming the theory is true.
784
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,239
No, no, no, no. Not necessarily.
785
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,907
Just as not every smoker
dies of lung cancer.
786
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,919
It depends how close you live to a mast
what your susceptibility is.
787
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,919
So, what in your opinion
is the danger zone?
788
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,479
Up to two kilometres.
The closer you are, the more at risk.
789
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,230
This is a theory, Professor.
There is no conclusive proof.
790
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:46,470
The converse is true, too.
791
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,550
There was conclusive proof
that thalidomide was safe,
792
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,667
that smoking wasn't a problem,
that beef was safe to eat.
793
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,839
The Home Office sought the opinion
of my colleagues at Oxford
794
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,630
about TETRA masts and they chose
to ignore their advice
795
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:07,150
not to go ahead.
796
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,999
Calm down, darling,
the report wasn't conclusive.
797
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,439
But why didn't you warn me?
798
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,319
I didn't want to worry you.
Are you cross?
799
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,159
Well, it made me look a fool.
800
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,399
Deed wouldn't think that of you.
I'm sure he wouldn't, darling.
801
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,470
Neil, what's going on?
802
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,599
Your own scientists
condemned the TETRA system.
803
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,599
This is a big setback.
You're taking it much too lightly.
804
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,079
The Prime Minister assured me
we're not walking away from this,
805
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,414
especially after
such a huge expenditure.
806
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,310
We'll see it through.
807
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,759
Do you want them to pat me down
to see if I'm bugged?
808
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,919
I'll rely on our mutual interest
in these phone masts.
809
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,754
Now, what can be done?
810
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,359
Too late to do much
now you've let it get to court.
811
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,639
For such a powerful man, Tim,
you have a small understanding
812
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,079
of how the Judiciary
and the Executive work.
813
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,759
You need a businessman
running things, Neil.
814
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,677
What's your solution
for dealing with this case?
815
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,719
If you can't take the case out of court,
816
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:51,304
take the court out of the case.
817
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:53,560
Negotiate.
818
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,359
There must be something
the Bridges want.
819
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,359
I suspect all they want, Tim,
is their health back.
820
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,360
There is something else.
821
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:07,970
You tell me what.
It mustn't look like capitulation.
822
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,639
Detective Sergeant Bridges
823
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,559
won't want to be prosecuted
for corruption.
824
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,910
Was he corrupt?
825
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,834
He was a policeman, Neil.
His entire squad was on the take.
826
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,079
Two former colleagues
will give evidence to that effect
827
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,330
if you can guarantee them
immunity from prosecution.
828
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,519
Tim, you still manage
to take one's breath away
829
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,359
with the most startlingly direct action.
830
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,679
Can you guarantee
these two policemen immunity?
831
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,347
Of course. We'd need to look at
what evidence you've got.
832
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,670
USHER: All rise.
833
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,134
Mrs Mills, do you wish
to re-examine Professor Brams?
834
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,240
It is with regret
835
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,719
that I have to inform the court
that my client is withdrawing her claim.
836
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,054
Has her health deteriorated?
837
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,364
There was no explanation.
838
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,639
Would you like an adjournment
to inquire after her health?
839
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,719
That's hardly fair to my clients.
840
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:35,799
Mrs Channing,
the determination of this case
841
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,359
has potentially significant
social repercussions.
842
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,359
Having amassed
all of this written argument,
843
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,359
it's important to clarify the reasons
for its apparent abandonment.
844
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,359
This is all very odd,
and I don't like oddities in my court.
845
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,159
- Mrs Mills.
- An adjournment would be helpful.
846
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,279
- All right. How long would you like?
- Uh, would you hear an argument
847
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,279
as to why we must not continue
with this?
848
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,680
Yeah. Go on.
849
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,039
Rule 38 of the Civil Procedure Rules
permits discontinuation of a case
850
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,599
without judicial authority being sought.
851
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,719
Moreover, I would like
to address your lordship
852
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:10,039
on a matter of human rights
jurisprudence
853
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,359
in relation to issues of conclusiveness
in civil litigation.
854
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,470
I have in mind the reasoning
855
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:22,030
in Perez de Rada Cavanilles and Spain
in 1998,
856
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,590
29 EHR 109.
857
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:26,839
Perez de Rada...?
858
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:27,870
Cavanilles.
859
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,000
All right.
860
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,839
Well, in Williams and Cowle in 2000,
Lord Justice Mummery
861
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,039
wisely observed
that we must resist the temptation
862
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,879
to turn a court hearing
into a human rights seminar.
863
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,919
However, not being familiar
with this particular case,
864
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,919
Mrs Channing, I will adjourn
to consider it properly.
865
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,119
My clerk will inform you
when I have done so.
866
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,279
- How long might that be?
- My clerk will inform you.
867
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,790
USHER: All rise.
868
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:01,239
You had that very point raised at
the Strand earlier this year, Judge.
869
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:02,670
Really, Coop?
870
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,070
Must have forgotten.
871
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,479
I beg you to reconsider
going on with the case.
872
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,319
No. You can't make us.
I've made my decision.
873
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,199
- And what about Mrs Bridges?
- She's not well enough.
874
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,200
But was it her decision?
875
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,759
This is a terribly important test case.
876
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,639
A lot of people are suffering
because of these masts,
877
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,199
- a lot of policemen, too.
- Then someone else can do it.
878
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,839
Your wife has the strongest case.
879
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,839
You can't win, Mrs Mills,
not against those people.
880
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,559
Has something happened
that you haven't told me?
881
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,644
I've given you my answer.
882
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,710
I'll call you, Jake.
883
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,630
JAKE: Mrs Mills?
884
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,230
That looks unhealthy.
885
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,430
What?
886
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,350
You're eating alone.
887
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,399
Yeah, you know,
sometimes I just can't be bothered
888
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,817
to go out and pick anyone up.
889
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,879
This is a side of you
I've not seen before.
890
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,550
I have my moments.
891
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,319
Jack Bridges was got at,
that's why he stopped.
892
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,320
Got at how?
893
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,959
A former colleague told him
he'd be prosecuted for corruption
894
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,679
if he went on with the case,
he'd lose his pension.
895
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,839
- Had he given them cause?
- Why would I ask him that?
896
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,519
Does he realise his former colleague
897
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,839
could be arrested
for not coming forward sooner?
898
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,799
Of course. Doesn't help him.
899
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,479
Is he going to continue with the case?
900
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,399
I need to get him immunity
from prosecution.
901
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,830
Can you help?
902
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,599
Only the Attorney can do that.
903
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,039
Well, can I bring him
to your chambers tomorrow?
904
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,199
For what reason?
905
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,799
I don't know. You'll think of something.
906
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,799
Well, who do you think
is behind all this, then?
907
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,639
Well, it's obvious.
The Home Secretary and Tim Listfield.
908
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,159
- Evidence?
- John, since when did Listfield
909
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,839
ever leave evidence behind him?
910
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,007
He's got the most to lose.
911
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,399
All right, bring him to chambers
at 10:30 tomorrow morning...
912
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,319
Thank you.
George will have to be there as well.
913
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,470
Yeah.
914
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,799
And if he does go on with this,
915
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,467
you'd better be sure
of your other witnesses.
916
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,639
MARC: Why must everything be as
Deed says? He dominates everything.
917
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,359
JO: I need your client's evidence.
MARC: I told you, I can't make him.
918
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,079
JO: These people are dying.
Does that mean nothing to him?
919
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,159
Look, Jo, if you haven't got a case,
you haven't.
920
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,959
And nothing I or Brian Mansridge says
will change that.
921
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,199
JO: Michael's mother died
from a brain tumour
922
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,759
caused by a cell phone.
Does that mean nothing?
923
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,559
I don't want to discuss this
in front of the children.
924
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,150
Yeah, I'm sorry.
925
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,559
But have you actually
asked Mr Mansridge?
926
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,039
Look, why don't we just drop this,
get the dinner started
927
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,919
and we discuss it later, hmm?
928
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,754
- I don't think I can stay.
- What?
929
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,919
Do you have to go?
930
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,279
Oh, I'm sorry, darling.
I've got too much work.
931
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,197
See you at the weekend.
932
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:35,919
I have no knowledge of this.
It's shameful to suggest that I have.
933
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,599
George, no one is suggesting that.
934
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,959
Well, then, why have you
brought Mr Bridges here like this?
935
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,159
If what Mr Bridges claims is true,
936
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,519
then the officer concerned
will be arrested.
937
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,199
But who would risk such consequences
when the case isn't even winnable?
938
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,679
Even so, the police inspector
939
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,679
making the allegations
will be interviewed.
940
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,750
Ah!
941
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,719
Were you involved in what
your former colleague alleged?
942
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:58,599
- George, you know better than that.
- I wasn't.
943
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,359
Well, then, you have nothing to fear.
944
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,879
Only another court case.
Another I probably can't win.
945
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,319
Another endless nightmare for my family!
946
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,570
- Excuse me, my lord.
- Hmm.
947
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,414
Can't you give him immunity?
948
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,839
Only the Attorney can do that.
949
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,439
He won't be very well-disposed
if you push on with Mrs Hussein's case.
950
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,039
What have you got on that one?
951
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,759
All the details of the South African
asbestos cases, Lubbe v. Cape PLC.
952
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,959
The claimants won the right to sue here.
953
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,719
I haven't really studied them,
but couldn't they help Mrs Hussein?
954
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,199
- It's not easily argued, I don't think.
- You could take this case, Dad.
955
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,700
The Lord Chancellor
would jump all over me.
956
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,559
All right. I'll talk to the Attorney.
957
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,439
The consequences for government
and manufacturing in this country
958
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,479
would be too awful
if the DU case went forward.
959
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,679
- It certainly should go forward.
- Not in front of you, John.
960
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,959
Well, it depends on how long
Mrs Hussein has to wait.
961
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,279
She's, uh, she's a bit mad, isn't she?
962
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,759
How would you feel
if you'd lost your spouse,
963
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,479
your children and your grandchildren?
964
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,279
Yes, but did she lose them,
as she claims, to depleted uranium?
965
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,780
That's a question for a judge.
966
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,239
Deed is very keen to get immunity
from prosecution for the ex-policeman.
967
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,679
Well, he certainly can't have that.
968
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,039
Bridges will have to take his chances
if they go on with the case.
969
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,040
That's for me to decide.
970
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:32,279
Yes, I can't be seen to be involved,
with George in the case.
971
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,839
There's a risk it will look like it came
from the Home Office.
972
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,590
It certainly didn't.
973
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,519
Is Deed planning to hear
the Iraqi widow case?
974
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,959
- No, he's not so foolish.
- Well, perhaps we should encourage him.
975
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,079
Are we still pushing this idea
of jury service for Deed?
976
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,639
It's the most effective option.
977
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,799
He must dismiss this phone masts case.
978
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,884
We're still trying, Neil.
979
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,737
What are you going to do
about Mr Bridges?
980
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,359
Well, if the threat was to prevent
the case from proceeding,
981
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,479
it's perverting the course of justice,
isn't it?
982
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,564
You'd need good evidence.
983
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,400
- Yeah.
- Oh, thank you.
984
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,439
Do you have a ticket
for the administrative court?
985
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,550
Yeah.
986
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:24,679
You could review the MOD's refusal to
hold an inquiry into depleted uranium.
987
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,199
Wouldn't your asking me carry the
same prejudice as you hearing it?
988
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,617
Mmm-hmm, yes,
you'd get a lot of pressure.
989
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,799
You could give me chapter and verse
on the Judiciary's inviolable right
990
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,967
not to be interfered with.
991
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,577
You should go to school, Jamie.
It's best.
992
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,990
Did you hear me?
993
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,910
Jamie.
994
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,910
Why can't you go on with the case?
You've got to, Dad.
995
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,519
Well, these things
are never that easy, son.
996
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,030
I've let you all down. I'm sorry.
997
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:18,990
Jake.
998
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,390
USHER: All rise.
999
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,200
Mrs Mills.
1000
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,707
My clients haven't contacted me.
1001
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,279
Has anyone gone to inquire
after Mrs Bridges' health?
1002
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,239
Yes. Might we have
a further adjournment?
1003
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,279
This is intolerable.
The claimants have declared
1004
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,359
they're not going on with their claim.
1005
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,759
Are we now going to wait
for my learned friend to persuade them?
1006
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,799
- No one is trying to persuade them.
- That's what it looks like.
1007
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,319
Well, your people put pressure on them.
1008
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,959
Now, that's enough.
Address the court, not each other.
1009
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,359
No one put pressure
on your corrupt clients.
1010
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:54,519
The Home Office did.
1011
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,759
One more word out of either of you,
I will hold you in contempt.
1012
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,719
This is absolutely absurd.
This has nothing to do with...
1013
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,554
The Government, the Home Office...
1014
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,719
I've had enough of this. Get them out.
1015
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,510
Adjourn it, please.
1016
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,790
Ladies!
1017
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,839
Are you after my job, Brian?
1018
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,199
Uh, it's not for the Judge, Rita.
Mrs Channing asked for it.
1019
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,279
What a cheek.
1020
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,079
Let her instructing solicitor
get her tea from the lobby.
1021
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,919
Well, she doesn't drink
vending machine tea, Rita.
1022
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,919
She said she wanted a proper cup of tea.
1023
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,199
- Asked for a proper cup, I see.
- And some cake.
1024
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,617
Is that what she asked for?
She is the absolute limit.
1025
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,999
I don't think it's for you to fetch
and carry for these barristers, Brian.
1026
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,599
I know, Rita,
but you know what she's like.
1027
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,839
Any idea how long the Judge is going
to keep them locked up in there?
1028
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,919
Well, until they learn
to behave themselves.
1029
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,279
Well, in that case,
I'd better remove the file I've hidden
1030
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,197
in the Battenberg cake.
1031
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,154
- Take it back, Brian.
- Yes, Rita.
1032
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,679
Have you forgotten Mrs Mills
and Mrs Channing, Judge?
1033
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,597
Haven't they killed each other yet?
1034
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,630
I'll go and see them.
1035
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:40,390
Oh!
1036
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:44,679
George, you're driving me mad.
1037
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,239
Well, you did the same to me
for a very, very long time.
1038
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,079
- That was all in the past.
- Oh, how convenient.
1039
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,039
This is just a clever ploy
to get your clients back on board.
1040
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,119
Your boyfriend got Sussex police to put
pressure on Jake Bridges to quit!
1041
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,159
- Oh, very good.
- Of course he did.
1042
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,919
- Go to hell! For God's sake!
- George, live in the real world!
1043
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,319
Do you two want to spend
the night in here?
1044
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,119
This is completely outrageous!
1045
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,799
Let the usher know
when you're ready to apologise.
1046
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,800
- John, John!
- I want to speak to...
1047
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:11,870
Oh!
1048
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,570
- They want to apologise, Judge.
- Good.
1049
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,240
Ask Mrs Mills to join me, would you?
1050
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:40,124
- Everyone had given up on you.
- Are we too late?
1051
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,734
I'll tell the Judge's clerk.
1052
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,199
- Come in.
- Mrs Mills, Judge.
1053
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,630
Thanks, Coop.
1054
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,657
- Your clients are back.
- Yes, thank you.
1055
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,927
Your second expert'll need to be good.
1056
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,279
- How are things with Marc?
- Fine. Why wouldn't they be?
1057
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,790
I live in hope.
1058
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,484
I came here to apologise.
1059
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,079
Did Charlie talk to you
about Mrs Hussein?
1060
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,159
- She did.
- Are you going to take the case?
1061
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,679
She hasn't got any money.
1062
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,199
- Legal aid.
- Refused six times.
1063
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,159
So, suddenly money is an issue for you?
1064
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,919
You live in this rarefied atmosphere
of large pensions.
1065
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,587
- I have to pay for mine.
- Yeah.
1066
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,697
You'll need a good solicitor.
1067
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,439
Charlie found one. We're having a con
with Mrs Hussein this evening.
1068
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,470
Oh.
1069
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,959
No, Michael's at cello practice
until 6:00.
1070
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,039
Oh, Brian Mansridge will go to court,
so who knows?
1071
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,639
He was reluctant. Why don't you talk
him through all the evidence first?
1072
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,057
- We're not allowed to.
- Hmm.
1073
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,999
I'm still being pressed
by the South African government.
1074
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,039
They want me to return and give evidence
about these drugs we tested.
1075
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,439
- Marc, is this serious?
- Hmm?
1076
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:09,039
No, no, it's all about politicking
and pharmaceutical companies.
1077
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,290
I hope Brian proves useful.
1078
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:16,159
I've got to go. I've got a con.
I've decided to help Mrs Hussein.
1079
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,960
Oh! Will I see you later?
1080
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,457
- Might stay at my place tonight.
- Right.
1081
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:25,350
Bye.
1082
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:32,999
How did you amass all this evidence?
1083
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,919
I lost my husband, three children
and seven grandchildren,
1084
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,004
it makes you resourceful.
1085
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,119
My husband was a member
of the Government.
1086
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,910
I knew my way around.
1087
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,719
But you weren't affected by DU.
1088
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,387
No. I wish to God I'd gone, too.
1089
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,559
The parallel leukemic clusters around
Dumfries and Galloway
1090
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,799
where the British Army tests DU shells,
is that on record?
1091
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,359
- I have all the sources.
- All?
1092
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,559
Well, they also test for the Americans.
1093
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,959
It's against their law
to do it back home.
1094
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,719
Uh, when Mrs Hussein tried to get
more evidence,
1095
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,199
the health authorities
said there were no clusters.
1096
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,719
But I got the emails from the health
authorities admitting that there are.
1097
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,804
Did you get them legally?
1098
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,310
They lied, Mrs Mills.
1099
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,390
It might not help.
1100
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,130
Look, my dear,
I'm very encouraged by your interest,
1101
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:37,030
but don't underestimate your government
or the Americans.
1102
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:45,007
Sometimes, Mrs Hussein, our courts prove
totally independent of government.
1103
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,199
If this Hussein woman gets to court,
it'll be a disaster.
1104
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,839
- It is likely, Alan.
- The Cabinet is seriously worried.
1105
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,879
Well, unless and until the Executive
changes the rules,
1106
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,999
we can't interfere with due process..
1107
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,639
Democracy sometimes makes
for poor management.
1108
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,199
They're trying to organise a wholly
reliable judge for it.
1109
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,284
Oh, well, that's something, at least.
1110
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,919
- Can we get this to court, Jo?
- Your Dad seems to think so.
1111
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,999
- Do you miss him?
- Did he ask you to ask?
1112
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,250
No, of course not. He wouldn't do that.
1113
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,270
I miss his incisive mind
and his sense of fun.
1114
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,439
Charlie, what would you think of someone
who didn't let you into his room,
1115
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,080
kept it for best?
1116
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,987
- Is that what Marc does?
- No, someone else.
1117
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,799
- Jo, I think we're being followed.
- What? Where?
1118
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:48,439
There. Man in the Audi.
I'm sure he was at the Law Library.
1119
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,559
- Are you sure?
- Come on, let's go and ask him.
1120
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,560
No, Charlie, be careful.
1121
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,440
Well, perhaps Mrs Hussein was right.
1122
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,930
We shouldn't underestimate
the Government's concern.
1123
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,150
Morag.
1124
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,119
I hear you've been given a ticket to
hear cases in the administrative court.
1125
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,120
I'm not sure why, Monty.
1126
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,279
You could take the Hussein
judicial review.
1127
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,839
Oh, it's far too complicated.
I'm just a girl, after all.
1128
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,150
Mmm. No, I think you provide
an excellent solution.
1129
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,574
I'll have my clerk send over the papers.
1130
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,359
Have I caught my lord
in a state of undress?
1131
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,319
A bit late in the morning.
1132
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:53,079
- Have you got a moment?
- Yeah, sure, I'm on my way to court.
1133
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,679
Monty's just offered me the judicial
review into the MOD's decision.
1134
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,399
- Is it a poison chalice?
- Depends what you decide.
1135
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,317
I suggested you for it.
1136
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:04,750
Ah!
1137
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:12,359
Mr Mansridge, can you say what,
if any, damage you've seen to humans
1138
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:17,039
as the result of microwaves generated
from cell phones and their masts?
1139
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,399
Positive conclusive damage, I can't.
1140
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,719
As a neurosurgeon,
my area of expertise is the brain.
1141
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,799
There's a suggestion that both phones
and masts cause tumours.
1142
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,759
Are you seeing these
with more frequency?
1143
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:33,799
There has been an increase, but it's not
conclusive that masts are the cause.
1144
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,159
Can you tell the court
how big an increase?
1145
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,519
Percentage-wise, probably 400-500%
over the last 10 years.
1146
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,479
In hard numbers, please.
1147
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:45,439
- Uh, four to five per 100,000.
- Thank you.
1148
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:48,357
But as I say, these are not proven.
1149
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,199
Well, then, is it your opinion
1150
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,319
that phone masts
are the cause of the increase?
1151
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,237
Possibly. In the absence
of any other evidences.
1152
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,159
Have you found a connection between
Motor Neurone Disease
1153
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:12,879
and the effects of phone base stations
such as in TETRA masts?
1154
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,390
Not personally.
1155
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:20,839
There are reports that calcium efflux
occurs, but it's not a proven fact.
1156
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:25,279
Well, then can you tell me your view on
low-level radiation such as microwaves?
1157
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,879
I've written several papers on the
effects of microwaves on the brain.
1158
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,999
My first concern started with
the emergence of digital cell phones,
1159
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,759
to give mobile phones
their correct name.
1160
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,759
Over the past 12 years
have your concerns changed?
1161
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,719
Well, nothing has confirmed that theory.
1162
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,279
Although we do know that
electromagnetic waves
1163
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,519
going into our bodies make them act
like aerials and generate electricity.
1164
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,799
This goes to ground through the path
of least resistance,
1165
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,999
hormones, antibodies,
neurotransmitters.
1166
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,959
Is this necessarily harmful?
1167
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,559
As an occasional occurrence,
probably not.
1168
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,719
The destination of hormones,
antibodies, neurotransmitters
1169
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,519
is the surface of a cell.
1170
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,959
Here, useful chemicals can pass through
the membrane into the cell
1171
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,044
and poisons can come out.
1172
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,919
This is the process cells go through
all the while.
1173
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,719
But if we change the charge
on each carrier,
1174
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,879
as when we're hit
with low-level radiation,
1175
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,239
then the beneficial substances
may not go in
1176
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,599
and the poisons may not come out
and then you get cell breakdown.
1177
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,434
This is just a theory?
1178
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,199
Well, the effects
of low-level radiation is, yes.
1179
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:33,039
But certainly some sort of overload
is causing more serious illnesses.
1180
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,374
I see, thank you. Mrs Mills.
1181
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:40,200
Is Motor Neurone Disease
one possible illness?
1182
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,670
Well, I can't say.
1183
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,919
Only that I would not wish to live
in close proximity to something as...
1184
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,087
well, aggressive as TETRA.
1185
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,799
Why is it so aggressive?
1186
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,279
Well, as a result of pulsating waves,
1187
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,079
we get the accumulative effect
of 400 million particles,
1188
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,639
neutrons, going through our bodies
every second.
1189
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,399
Now, the theory is that this suppresses
the immune system
1190
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,399
so we get colds for longer,
longer illnesses,
1191
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,900
depression, anxiety
and even brain tumours.
1192
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,280
DEED: Mrs Channing.
1193
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,439
Is there evidence that the phone mast
caused these problems?
1194
01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:28,857
Hard evidence? Of course not.
1195
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,919
Nor epidemiological studies to support
this theory?
1196
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,999
No. No independent epidemiological
studies have been conducted.
1197
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,879
The Government's never insisted
on a long-term study
1198
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,479
into the safety of cell phones
before they were marketed.
1199
01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:44,910
Why was that?
1200
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,260
Because they were deemed safe?
1201
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,839
Mr Mansridge, you were an observer
on the Stewart Committee
1202
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,839
when it reported on mobile phones.
1203
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,174
Yes, yes, I was.
1204
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,719
Well, did this report raise
widespread concerns
1205
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,079
about mobile phones and their masts?
1206
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,270
No. No, it didn't.
1207
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,799
Because presumably you were
all part of the Government
1208
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:12,879
and industry-wide conspiracy
to make everyone ill in 10 years' time
1209
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,879
so that they had no customers.
1210
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,714
No, no, of course not.
1211
01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:20,959
Can you say how
Motor Neurone Disease occurs?
1212
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,680
I can't. Not categorically.
1213
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,380
Can anyone point to its cause?
1214
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,470
Not in any papers I've ever seen.
1215
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:37,310
Thank you. Is MND on the increase?
1216
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:43,159
It's on the rise, year by year by
about 40% over the last 10 years, yes.
1217
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,470
Caused by phone masts?
1218
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,830
I can't say that.
1219
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,757
Well, thank you, Mr Mansridge.
You are released.
1220
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,839
Mrs Channing, would you like to call
your expert back-to-back?
1221
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:11,119
Yes. Professor Carol Churchill
of the Institute of Scientific Research.
1222
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,870
Right. Well, perhaps tomorrow.
Mrs Mills has another case.
1223
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,199
Jo, I thought you wouldn't make it.
1224
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:36,034
Sorry. My last witness
was a complete disaster.
1225
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:44,159
My lady, are we to assume that
this application falls away?
1226
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,190
Ah!
1227
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,390
Get Charlie's wig out to her.
1228
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:51,999
Mrs Mills, I was about
to find for the Attorney.
1229
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,759
I do apologise, my lady. I have trouble
trying to be in two places at once.
1230
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,760
MORAG: I do understand your problem.
1231
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,190
Mr Attorney.
1232
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:05,759
The application for judicial review
by Mrs Hussein has no basis in law.
1233
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,559
The MOD must not be answerable
to an Iraqi citizen,
1234
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,279
the widow of a minister
in a then-enemy government.
1235
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,947
Is Mrs Hussein an Iraqi citizen?
1236
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:21,500
She gave up her British citizenship at
the request of her husband 30 years ago.
1237
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,119
The information the court
would be asking the MOD to release
1238
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:27,870
is highly classified.
1239
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,599
It would be of undoubted benefit
to an enemy.
1240
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,159
Is there a likely enemy?
1241
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,439
Well, the terrorist cells
that breed so easily in a free society.
1242
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:38,079
With all due respect to the Attorney,
1243
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,639
I do think he's trying to shut the
stable door after the horse has bolted.
1244
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,839
There are reams of material
on depleted uranium on the internet.
1245
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,039
How it's used,
how it's incorporated into tank shells,
1246
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,519
what its devastating effects are.
1247
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,937
- Do you have copies of this?
- Yes, I do.
1248
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:01,640
Thank you.
1249
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,999
Well, despite this,
we were in a state of war.
1250
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:11,759
And as such, the army is both governed
and protected by the law of war.
1251
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:16,639
If every action in a state of war
was subject to judicial review,
1252
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,079
well, the government
simply couldn't function.
1253
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,239
Life in government would be difficult,
I agree.
1254
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,399
But now there is much judicial support
1255
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,799
for proper legality,
even in times of peril.
1256
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,800
As Lord Atkin famously said in 1942,
discentente,
1257
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:37,380
"In this country, amid the clash
of arms, the laws are not silent."
1258
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:42,900
I'll hear Mrs Mills' argument
before I hear you close, Mr Attorney.
1259
01:16:45,440 --> 01:16:50,679
Does being at war allow for the slow,
tortuous death of non-combatants
1260
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,470
long after ceasefire?
1261
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:57,119
I'm not up on modern warfare.
However, it would seem to me...
1262
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,719
The hearing was very brief.
1263
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,599
Oh. It's not over,
it's just the opening skirmish.
1264
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,199
Now the judge has to decide whether
the MOD's decision should be reviewed.
1265
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,119
- But will she hear it if she does?
- Hopefully.
1266
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,759
But the Government won't give in easily.
1267
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,590
And I won't give up.
I'd rather die first.
1268
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,170
I'm sure they realise that.
1269
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,030
Here.
1270
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,390
MARC: Hi.
1271
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,279
The clerk said you were still here.
I thought you might like some dinner.
1272
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,999
Did you speak to Brian Mansridge?
1273
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,159
- Jo, I did warn you.
- The Bridges are going to lose.
1274
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,159
Yes, but Brian isn't to blame,
nor are you.
1275
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,279
I was the one
who persuaded them to carry on.
1276
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:43,919
I'd hoped we could convince
the judge that those masts cause MND.
1277
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,559
Mansridge's evidence was important.
You should have spoken to him.
1278
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:47,759
And told him what?
1279
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,799
How to present his argument
in a more positive light.
1280
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,639
You could have taken
a few more risks for us.
1281
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,474
Jo, it's not my fault.
1282
01:17:56,440 --> 01:18:00,750
No, I know.
But sometimes you have to take a risk.
1283
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,794
Let's get some dinner.
1284
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:11,510
Help.
1285
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,237
I'm sure you'll be fine eventually.
1286
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,650
Well, I like the meanwhile.
1287
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:25,470
Good.
1288
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,839
My spies tell me Mrs Justice Hughes
went straight to Deed.
1289
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,479
Are your spies more reliable than mine?
1290
01:18:33,480 --> 01:18:35,319
Can you also tell me
what they talked about?
1291
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,070
She will eventually.
1292
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:42,887
- Can you trust this woman?
- Oh, I'm very confident about her.
1293
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,279
Professor Churchill,
is there any evidence
1294
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,710
that microwaves in low doses
from TETRA masts
1295
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,199
can do us any harm?
1296
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:57,519
No. Long periods of exposure
could possibly cause problems.
1297
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,359
Has this ever been demonstrated?
1298
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,879
Rats subjected to prolonged exposure
of pulsed waves
1299
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,199
did develop a change in cells.
1300
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,190
And how long was that exposure?
1301
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,190
150 continuous days.
1302
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,239
Do rats use phones, professor?
1303
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,407
I've never tried to call one, my lord.
1304
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,310
Mrs Mills.
1305
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,439
Isn't the ultimate test on humans?
1306
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:32,399
That's the ultimate test
for all products.
1307
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,399
That doesn't make them unsafe
when they reach the market.
1308
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,439
Since radiation from TETRA penetrates
deeper into the head,
1309
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:41,799
isn't that a cause for concern?
1310
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:46,217
Some scientists do subscribe
to that concern, I don't.
1311
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,359
A person living in close proximity
to a TETRA mast
1312
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,319
is likely to develop
changes in their cells.
1313
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,820
That hasn't been demonstrated.
1314
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,079
(SIGHS) Do you have any interest
in the phone companies
1315
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,414
who develop this technology?
1316
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:12,559
- Yes, I'm on the advisory committee.
- And who pays that committee?
1317
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,144
The phone companies, naturally.
1318
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,440
Thank you.
1319
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:22,630
Mrs Channing.
1320
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:27,639
Why are the phone companies paying
this committee, Professor?
1321
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,974
To ensure their technology remains safe.
1322
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:37,079
Neil, you're stupid
not taking action against Bridges.
1323
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,559
That threat of prosecution wasn't enough
to stop their proceeding with the case.
1324
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,519
Makes the Home Office look toothless.
1325
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,519
To go ahead
would make us appear vindictive.
1326
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,437
We both stand to lose a great deal.
1327
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:54,667
George is convinced the judge can't do
other than rule in our favour.
1328
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:10,317
This is more pleasant than coffee
with most judges, my lady.
1329
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,879
I still can't get used to that, Ian.
I think I'm being sent up.
1330
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,870
(CHUCKLES) Unlikely.
1331
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:20,054
I can't tell you my decision
in the case.
1332
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,959
Are we standing on ceremony?
1333
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,210
I have yet to arrive at it.
1334
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:32,397
I hope Mr Justice Deed isn't proving
too influential, Morag.
1335
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,820
- Have you been spying on me?
- The Home Secretary has.
1336
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,764
How do you read her, Ian?
1337
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:49,999
Frankly, I'm not too hopeful.
1338
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,917
I'll alert the Cabinet.
1339
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,519
- Where's Mrs Hussein?
- Been trying to get her all morning.
1340
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,437
- (GAVEL BANGING)
- USHER: All rise.
1341
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,399
Is the Attorney General not present?
1342
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,559
He's being detained in
the House of Commons, my lady.
1343
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,079
Is Mrs Hussein not here, either?
1344
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,330
We're trying to locate her.
1345
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,919
I am of the opinion that
permission should be granted
1346
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,079
to allow a full oral hearing
at a time and date to be determined.
1347
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,479
Is there any indication of
when that might be, my lady?
1348
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:46,639
Is there a time constraint?
1349
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:51,557
Mrs Hussein's permitted time
in this country is running out.
1350
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,519
Would you give me a moment,
my lady?
1351
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:54,840
Certainly.
1352
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:56,960
JO: Where is she?
1353
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,000
What?
1354
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,080
Perhaps you'd share your excitement.
1355
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,359
Mrs Hussein has been arrested
under the Prevention of Terrorism Act.
1356
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,030
She's in Belmarsh.
1357
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,310
That will not affect any hearing.
1358
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:23,870
All rise.
1359
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,870
USHER: All rise.
1360
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:32,710
Ian!
1361
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,159
How dare you walk out
of my court in that fashion!
1362
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,800
Your court? Who put you there?
1363
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,464
However I got there, I'm there.
1364
01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:44,999
I would suggest you're being influenced
by Mr Justice Deed.
1365
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,759
It's a bad influence
that will put you out of favour.
1366
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,760
Then you will need friends. My lady.
1367
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,150
On what grounds?
1368
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,490
The Home Office did it. I guarantee it.
1369
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:11,870
Charlie!
1370
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,319
- Where is he?
- What's going on?
1371
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,959
- What's the matter?
- Where is he?
1372
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,199
You did this.
Of all the cheap, despicable tricks.
1373
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,199
Charlie, I will not
have you talking to Neil like this.
1374
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,919
- He had Mrs Hussein arrested.
- Oh, don't be ridiculous.
1375
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,279
There's no doubting
whose daughter you are.
1376
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:26,430
So deny it.
1377
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,639
The Americans have asked us
to hold on to her pending extradition.
1378
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,479
She's been passing information
to Iraqi insurgents in Baghdad.
1379
01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:35,039
Well, I'm going to get her out.
1380
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,830
Oh, is she?
1381
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,559
What are you gonna do, Chaz?
Storm the citadel?
1382
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,319
- Yeah, I feel like it.
- Then storm it with law, my darling.
1383
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:45,639
Arm yourself with the law.
1384
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,319
We will take apart
every syllable of the PTA.
1385
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,359
Meanwhile, you just arm yourself
with a good left hook,
1386
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,799
because one of us
is gonna floor Haughton.
1387
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,199
- Yes?
- (CHUCKLES) Yes.
1388
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,599
Good. Well, we'll do that then,
'cause that's my idea
1389
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,767
and my ideas are the best.
1390
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:06,239
The evidence about the effects
of low-level radiation
1391
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,407
from phone masts is scandalously thin.
1392
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:15,937
From base stations in the TETRA system,
it is almost non-existent.
1393
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:18,270
The industry tells us
1394
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:22,194
that no harm results from
either phone or mast.
1395
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,079
Yet in one report, Dr Gerald Highland
1396
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,559
of the International Institute
of Biophysics said,
1397
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,599
"It is criminally irresponsible
to permit the roll-out
1398
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,479
"of a technology
which has undergone minimal testing
1399
01:25:35,480 --> 01:25:40,480
"and where what testing has been done
shows health problems."
1400
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:46,719
That TETRA masts pulsate at a rate
dangerously close to human brainwaves
1401
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,039
was something
the Stewart Committee warned about.
1402
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:54,079
The claimant, Mrs Bridges,
developed Motor Neurone Disease,
1403
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:58,119
it's alleged, from living
under a TETRA base station
1404
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,799
that Rotherwas Council allowed
One-Way phones
1405
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,800
to put on the top of her flat block.
1406
01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:09,510
Five other tenants have also
developed Motor Neurone Disease.
1407
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:13,959
Statistically, this is an aberration.
1408
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:18,239
And written evidence for the defence
suggests that such aberrations
1409
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,430
occur elsewhere
without a mast present.
1410
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:28,084
These were not supported by long-term
epidemiological studies.
1411
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,879
It is the view of the court
that the Government has failed
1412
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,270
the general public miserably
1413
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:40,439
by ignoring the internationally accepted
precautionary principle
1414
01:26:40,440 --> 01:26:42,774
when weighing unknown risks.
1415
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,639
It has allowed untested phone masts
in general
1416
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,200
and TETRA masts in particular
1417
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:55,737
to be sited around the country
near homes, schools and workplaces.
1418
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,399
Therefore, on the balance
of probabilities,
1419
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,590
it is more likely than not, I find,
1420
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,439
that the TETRA mast
on top of Harbury House
1421
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:11,690
was a significant contributing factor
in Mrs Bridges' Motor Neurone Disease.
1422
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:13,950
Thank you.
1423
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,119
I am ordering Rotherwas Council
to give the Bridges
1424
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,159
and residents of Harbury House
back their piece of mind
1425
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,744
by removing the mast forthwith.
1426
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,239
They must also alert all other residents
of the presence
1427
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,240
and potential danger of phone masts.
1428
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,479
I am awarding as general damages
for nuisance to Mrs Bridges
1429
01:27:35,480 --> 01:27:38,440
the sum of? 100,000.
1430
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:43,679
The quantum of damages for personal
injury was agreed between counsel
1431
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:50,590
earlier as a global sum of? 858,346,
including interest.
1432
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,650
I further award the claimants this sum.
1433
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,350
Hi, you coming my way?
1434
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:06,990
John.
1435
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,759
John, your ruling was very courageous.
1436
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:15,950
Was it?
1437
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,684
Seemed right at the time.
1438
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,119
- It will be appealed.
- Yes, I have no doubt.
1439
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:25,479
And when you fight it,
you ask the Court of Appeal judges
1440
01:28:25,480 --> 01:28:28,719
to sleep with their families
under a TETRA phone mast.
1441
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,887
That ought to concentrate their minds.
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