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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,517 --> 00:00:07,689 Narrator: Opened in May 1873, 2 00:00:07,793 --> 00:00:11,344 Alexandra Palace was hailed as 'The People's Palace'. 3 00:00:11,448 --> 00:00:13,206 Two weeks later, it burned down. 4 00:00:14,448 --> 00:00:16,655 Re-built, it became famous as the first home 5 00:00:16,758 --> 00:00:19,241 of BBC Television in 1936, 6 00:00:19,344 --> 00:00:21,896 and the mast which transmitted the world's first 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,689 fully electronic television pictures survives. 8 00:00:26,206 --> 00:00:28,620 The theatre wasn't so lucky. 9 00:00:28,724 --> 00:00:31,344 Used by the BBC to store props, 10 00:00:31,448 --> 00:00:34,862 it's been hidden from public view for 80 years. 11 00:00:34,965 --> 00:00:37,551 Now, this sleeping beauty has been restored. 12 00:00:38,586 --> 00:00:41,068 But this is no ordinary restoration. 13 00:00:41,172 --> 00:00:44,862 The architects who took it on settled on a design philosophy 14 00:00:44,965 --> 00:00:47,862 that said decay was part of the story... 15 00:00:47,965 --> 00:00:49,275 ..and should stay. 16 00:00:49,379 --> 00:00:52,241 In a sense, it felt like a room that was holding its breath. 17 00:00:52,344 --> 00:00:54,275 You could almost hear the echo 18 00:00:54,379 --> 00:00:57,448 from the last performance when the curtain came down. 19 00:00:57,551 --> 00:01:01,000 And it was just waiting for whatever was coming next. 20 00:02:03,448 --> 00:02:06,103 Narrator: 'Ally Pally' is its nickname. 21 00:02:06,206 --> 00:02:08,758 We know it as a Victorian 'palace for the people' 22 00:02:08,862 --> 00:02:11,206 that has a great hall, an ice rink, 23 00:02:11,310 --> 00:02:14,000 a home for darts and snooker championships, 24 00:02:14,103 --> 00:02:16,655 of concerts by everyone from Pink Floyd to Blur, 25 00:02:16,758 --> 00:02:19,620 and on its roof, visible for miles, 26 00:02:19,724 --> 00:02:21,758 The mast that brought the nation 27 00:02:21,862 --> 00:02:23,827 its first proper television service. 28 00:02:25,655 --> 00:02:28,793 But very few in living memory remember it as a theatre. 29 00:02:30,137 --> 00:02:32,310 That's because the theatre, in the East Wing, 30 00:02:32,413 --> 00:02:34,758 was very soon converted to a cinema 31 00:02:34,862 --> 00:02:38,000 and then given to the BBC for use as a props store 32 00:02:38,103 --> 00:02:41,137 for the many productions broadcast from Alexandra Palace 33 00:02:41,241 --> 00:02:44,620 between 1936 and 1969. 34 00:02:44,724 --> 00:02:48,068 By that time, the theatre had been so bashed about 35 00:02:48,172 --> 00:02:51,655 that it seemed to some the only option was a re-build. 36 00:02:51,758 --> 00:02:55,206 Until architects Feilden Clegg Bradley came along. 37 00:02:57,103 --> 00:03:00,965 The decay was a challenge in that it was about, 38 00:03:01,068 --> 00:03:02,896 in a sense, the fragility of the space, 39 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,620 the fragility of the built fabric, 40 00:03:05,724 --> 00:03:08,517 but the fragility of the character as well. 41 00:03:08,620 --> 00:03:11,000 And something that came across very clearly 42 00:03:11,103 --> 00:03:12,827 from us and from the clients 43 00:03:12,931 --> 00:03:15,482 and we were in total agreement about this is that 44 00:03:15,586 --> 00:03:17,620 what was really important about the space 45 00:03:17,724 --> 00:03:19,896 was to preserve that character. 46 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,896 And in its fragility, it could have been quite easily destroyed 47 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,827 by well meaning repair or by restoration. 48 00:03:26,931 --> 00:03:28,655 So, thinking about what it had to be, 49 00:03:28,758 --> 00:03:31,137 London has got a lot of theatres. 50 00:03:31,241 --> 00:03:32,931 It's got a lot of rooms like that 51 00:03:33,034 --> 00:03:35,000 which are theatres in the West End, 52 00:03:35,103 --> 00:03:39,000 but it doesn't have spaces like that with that character. 53 00:03:39,103 --> 00:03:44,793 So had we erased that pattern of time and past uses, 54 00:03:44,896 --> 00:03:48,172 we would have erased that very unique quality 55 00:03:48,275 --> 00:03:50,103 that made the space so special. 56 00:03:53,241 --> 00:03:55,827 When you're right at the early stage of a project, 57 00:03:55,931 --> 00:03:59,379 there's an immediacy in what you draw 58 00:03:59,482 --> 00:04:02,172 that can't be captured by CAD. 59 00:04:02,275 --> 00:04:04,724 When you do a sketch and when you draw something by hand, 60 00:04:04,827 --> 00:04:08,862 then there's nothing on the page which hasn't been thought about, 61 00:04:08,965 --> 00:04:10,413 at least to a certain degree. 62 00:04:11,896 --> 00:04:14,172 Whereas if you produce a visual, 63 00:04:14,275 --> 00:04:17,758 it might be a very beautiful visual of a space. 64 00:04:17,862 --> 00:04:20,827 It sort of obscures the fact that there are things in there 65 00:04:20,931 --> 00:04:23,172 which haven't necessarily been thought about. 66 00:04:23,275 --> 00:04:25,413 Of course, sometimes that's incredibly useful as well. 67 00:04:25,517 --> 00:04:27,724 You might find something that's totally unexpected. 68 00:04:27,827 --> 00:04:31,862 Be it good or, or bad. 69 00:04:31,965 --> 00:04:34,034 But when you're developing those ideas initially, 70 00:04:34,137 --> 00:04:36,620 there's an immediacy to drawing 71 00:04:36,724 --> 00:04:38,862 which I think is absolutely essential. 72 00:04:42,241 --> 00:04:45,241 Narrator: Bold is the architect who suggests to the owners 73 00:04:45,344 --> 00:04:48,310 of a derelict theatre that there is beauty in decay. 74 00:04:49,586 --> 00:04:52,172 Matt Somerville had to convince the powers-that-be 75 00:04:52,275 --> 00:04:53,896 to go along with his idea. 76 00:04:55,310 --> 00:05:00,551 The story of the theatre particularly is one of decay, 77 00:05:00,655 --> 00:05:04,137 it's actually been derelict for more years 78 00:05:04,241 --> 00:05:07,103 than it's been in operation as an entertainment space. 79 00:05:07,206 --> 00:05:09,172 So that is the theatre's story 80 00:05:09,275 --> 00:05:11,689 and therefore the arrested decay approach was, 81 00:05:11,793 --> 00:05:14,344 was the only way to really truly tell its story. 82 00:05:17,448 --> 00:05:19,482 It's not just a theatre. 83 00:05:19,586 --> 00:05:23,379 It's the...the theatre space is part of the performance. 84 00:05:23,482 --> 00:05:25,758 It's part of the experience. 85 00:05:25,862 --> 00:05:27,965 And I think we've done the right thing 86 00:05:28,068 --> 00:05:30,241 for the right space at the right time. 87 00:05:32,517 --> 00:05:36,965 - Architecture is certainly a collaborative process 88 00:05:37,068 --> 00:05:38,517 and a creation of buildings 89 00:05:38,620 --> 00:05:42,724 and the building process itself relies on an enormous team. 90 00:05:42,827 --> 00:05:46,137 And we are one small part of that within this office 91 00:05:46,241 --> 00:05:49,482 and outside this office are dozens and then hundreds 92 00:05:49,586 --> 00:05:53,137 of people by the time you get to the construction stage. 93 00:05:53,241 --> 00:05:55,724 They all play a role in delivering something. 94 00:05:55,827 --> 00:05:58,793 So it becomes incredibly important to have an idea, 95 00:05:58,896 --> 00:06:01,965 but then to express the idea clearly 96 00:06:02,068 --> 00:06:04,896 so that people understand it and buy into it 97 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,758 and support it and ultimately deliver it. 98 00:06:10,310 --> 00:06:12,275 Narrator: With the restoration of the theatre 99 00:06:12,379 --> 00:06:14,862 would come a renewal of the East Court, 100 00:06:14,965 --> 00:06:17,068 built, like the rest of Alexandra Palace, 101 00:06:17,172 --> 00:06:19,344 to a Victorian scale. 102 00:06:19,448 --> 00:06:22,137 So Matt Somerville's design brief became wider, 103 00:06:22,241 --> 00:06:26,689 and his task to fit all the bits of the jigsaw together. 104 00:06:29,827 --> 00:06:35,034 Starting of course with the iconic 1936 mast. 105 00:06:35,137 --> 00:06:38,379 Which sat on top, sits on top of the BBC Tower. 106 00:06:38,482 --> 00:06:40,724 And this is clearly identifiable. 107 00:06:40,827 --> 00:06:42,586 And from that you then have the, 108 00:06:42,689 --> 00:06:45,448 the great East Court, the railway terminus space. 109 00:06:45,551 --> 00:06:48,206 It has that character of the big glass house 110 00:06:48,310 --> 00:06:51,482 that's right in the middle of the East Wing here. 111 00:06:51,586 --> 00:06:55,689 And then the theatre is off at this end, actually not built. 112 00:06:55,793 --> 00:06:58,689 But this is the theatre foyer 113 00:06:58,793 --> 00:07:01,068 and this is what we called the theatre tower, 114 00:07:01,172 --> 00:07:06,620 originally a story higher, but lost perhaps 40 or 50 years ago 115 00:07:06,724 --> 00:07:08,724 after the, after the Second World War. 116 00:07:08,827 --> 00:07:12,172 But within these spaces, much of what we were doing 117 00:07:12,275 --> 00:07:14,655 is just allowing those spaces to breathe again. 118 00:07:14,758 --> 00:07:17,827 So we opened them to their Victorian proportions. 119 00:07:17,931 --> 00:07:20,344 The BBC during their occupation of all of the East Wing 120 00:07:20,448 --> 00:07:24,000 of the palace had divided this up into little offices. 121 00:07:24,103 --> 00:07:26,862 We had ceilings that stand at office ceiling heights 122 00:07:26,965 --> 00:07:29,724 within rooms that were seven metres high. 123 00:07:29,827 --> 00:07:32,689 Always at the palace there's this, this super scale 124 00:07:32,793 --> 00:07:38,724 in getting back to that Victorian scale was such a, 125 00:07:38,827 --> 00:07:40,034 an easy move, in a way, 126 00:07:40,137 --> 00:07:42,724 but a move that really brought those spaces back to life 127 00:07:42,827 --> 00:07:43,862 and reconnected them. 128 00:07:49,275 --> 00:07:53,206 Narrator: The model helped focus minds on layout and flow. 129 00:07:53,310 --> 00:07:55,068 But what would the architects find 130 00:07:55,172 --> 00:07:57,931 in the real-life version of Alexandra Palace? 131 00:08:00,965 --> 00:08:04,137 Built in the 1870s, it was conceived by Owen Jones, 132 00:08:04,241 --> 00:08:07,034 who had been involved in The Great Exhibition of 1851, 133 00:08:07,137 --> 00:08:09,551 Joseph Paxton's huge glass palace 134 00:08:09,655 --> 00:08:12,275 visited by six million people while it was up, 135 00:08:12,379 --> 00:08:14,068 and the South Kensington Museum 136 00:08:14,172 --> 00:08:15,620 which came to be known as the V&A. 137 00:08:19,931 --> 00:08:22,793 But it was the architects John Johnson and Alfred Meeson 138 00:08:22,896 --> 00:08:25,448 who built Alexandra Palace. 139 00:08:25,551 --> 00:08:27,896 How depressing it must have been to see their building 140 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,413 go up in flames two weeks after it opened. 141 00:08:32,413 --> 00:08:35,206 Undaunted, Meeson, who'd previously helped 142 00:08:35,310 --> 00:08:37,965 Sir Charles Barry build the new Houses of Parliament, 143 00:08:38,068 --> 00:08:41,551 set to and did it all again. 144 00:08:41,655 --> 00:08:45,000 Two years later, the new Alexandra Palace opened, 145 00:08:45,103 --> 00:08:46,275 the one we see today. 146 00:08:48,448 --> 00:08:51,896 - Alexandra Palace was one of the first entertainment palaces 147 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,206 built by the Victorians at a time when Victorians 148 00:08:55,310 --> 00:08:56,793 were first getting their leisure time 149 00:08:56,896 --> 00:08:59,310 and wanted to come out of the big smoke, as such, 150 00:08:59,413 --> 00:09:03,103 and enjoy open space and promenade and be entertained 151 00:09:03,206 --> 00:09:05,896 and, you know, we used to set fire to Pompeii every night as, 152 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,586 as part of the entertainment. 153 00:09:07,689 --> 00:09:09,241 But then of course in the 1930s, 154 00:09:09,344 --> 00:09:12,724 we were the home of the first television service broadcast. 155 00:09:12,827 --> 00:09:15,137 And Alexandra Palace is absolutely woven 156 00:09:15,241 --> 00:09:18,689 into the fabric of English heritage and culture. 157 00:09:20,448 --> 00:09:22,862 Narrator: When it came to Ally Pally's theatre, 158 00:09:22,965 --> 00:09:25,931 John Johnson refused to give it a fly tower. 159 00:09:26,034 --> 00:09:28,689 He thought it would ruin the lines of his creation, 160 00:09:28,793 --> 00:09:30,689 poking above the roof. 161 00:09:30,793 --> 00:09:33,689 So, background scenes would have to come up 162 00:09:33,793 --> 00:09:36,896 through the floor of the stage rather than down from above. 163 00:09:37,931 --> 00:09:41,034 And here is the magic of this theatre. 164 00:09:43,413 --> 00:09:46,137 the five huge lifts beneath the stage survive, 165 00:09:46,241 --> 00:09:48,172 along with smaller lifts 166 00:09:48,275 --> 00:09:51,724 which would propel actors onto the stage in the pantomimes 167 00:09:51,827 --> 00:09:53,931 and melodramas that Victorian audiences loved. 168 00:09:55,344 --> 00:09:59,034 - What we're seeing here is five very wide lifts. 169 00:09:59,137 --> 00:10:01,965 Each one as wide as the proscenium arch itself 170 00:10:02,068 --> 00:10:04,379 on which scenery would have lifted out 171 00:10:04,482 --> 00:10:06,275 through the stage and appeared. 172 00:10:07,103 --> 00:10:09,931 And this contraption here 173 00:10:10,034 --> 00:10:12,137 which is one of my favourite moments in the palace, 174 00:10:12,241 --> 00:10:14,931 this is one of the star traps. 175 00:10:15,034 --> 00:10:19,103 And this would have been used to fire people 176 00:10:19,206 --> 00:10:23,310 eight feet through the stage. 177 00:10:23,413 --> 00:10:27,206 Someone would have stood on this counter weighted platform, 178 00:10:27,310 --> 00:10:31,758 quite small, and been fired out through the stage itself, 179 00:10:31,862 --> 00:10:35,448 accompanied of course by a pyrotechnic puff of smoke. 180 00:10:35,551 --> 00:10:37,448 And you can just imagine the nerve 181 00:10:37,551 --> 00:10:39,793 it would have taken to stand on that, 182 00:10:39,896 --> 00:10:43,000 hoping that the trap would open at the right moment. 183 00:10:50,931 --> 00:10:52,448 Narrator: The basement of the theatre 184 00:10:52,551 --> 00:10:54,241 was one of its parts that survived 185 00:10:54,344 --> 00:10:56,068 the 80 year closure intact. 186 00:10:58,413 --> 00:11:00,655 But, as the architects of today investigated 187 00:11:00,758 --> 00:11:04,586 the rest of the building, they found a different story. 188 00:11:06,275 --> 00:11:10,517 - The building we always thought showed its history very clearly. 189 00:11:10,620 --> 00:11:13,689 It's had quite a tumultuous history. 190 00:11:13,793 --> 00:11:15,482 It was clearly only a theatre 191 00:11:15,586 --> 00:11:18,241 for the first 50 years of its, of its life. 192 00:11:18,344 --> 00:11:19,413 It was a cinema. 193 00:11:19,517 --> 00:11:22,551 It was a hospital and a chapel during its period 194 00:11:22,655 --> 00:11:25,000 as an internment camp in the First World War. 195 00:11:25,103 --> 00:11:28,551 It was the BBC's prop stores. It's been abandoned. 196 00:11:28,655 --> 00:11:31,310 All of those things, I think when you come in here now, 197 00:11:31,413 --> 00:11:34,379 you can read those in the physical fabric of the space 198 00:11:34,482 --> 00:11:35,724 and in the character as well, 199 00:11:35,827 --> 00:11:37,551 so when you look at the walls behind me, 200 00:11:37,655 --> 00:11:40,931 you can see that the dereliction of the building 201 00:11:41,034 --> 00:11:43,862 has left its mark on the fabric 202 00:11:43,965 --> 00:11:46,482 and the cornice that used to join the ceiling 203 00:11:46,586 --> 00:11:49,793 to the walls was removed in order to carry out 204 00:11:49,896 --> 00:11:52,448 some fairly fundamental repairs to the, 205 00:11:52,551 --> 00:11:55,344 the roof structure back in the 1980s. 206 00:11:55,448 --> 00:11:57,793 Some fairly brutal interventions, really. 207 00:11:57,896 --> 00:11:59,034 But in a way, 208 00:11:59,137 --> 00:12:01,103 those interventions saved the fabric 209 00:12:01,206 --> 00:12:04,034 and they're as much of the story of this space, 210 00:12:04,137 --> 00:12:06,655 those, all of the other phases of its use. 211 00:12:12,655 --> 00:12:15,068 The side corridors here were built in the 1920s, 212 00:12:15,172 --> 00:12:19,000 we think partly to deal with fire regulations. 213 00:12:19,103 --> 00:12:21,551 Partly perhaps to do with some poor acoustics. 214 00:12:21,655 --> 00:12:24,344 The space always suffered from its inception 215 00:12:24,448 --> 00:12:25,931 with quite bad acoustics. 216 00:12:26,758 --> 00:12:28,275 And when you look at it, 217 00:12:28,379 --> 00:12:31,275 you realise there is a much more layered character. 218 00:12:31,379 --> 00:12:32,620 There's the Victorian shell. 219 00:12:33,827 --> 00:12:35,206 There are the 1920s insertions, 220 00:12:35,310 --> 00:12:38,310 which include the very decorative plasterwork 221 00:12:38,413 --> 00:12:40,586 on the, on the ceiling as well. 222 00:12:40,689 --> 00:12:43,551 So it hasn't been a static space, by any means. 223 00:12:43,655 --> 00:12:47,103 It's been repaired. It's been restored. 224 00:12:47,206 --> 00:12:49,758 And it's been left to deteriorate. 225 00:12:49,862 --> 00:12:52,896 All of those phases have left their mark in some way. 226 00:12:58,310 --> 00:13:01,344 In the end, it's that 80 years or so 227 00:13:01,448 --> 00:13:05,758 of a lack of modernisation that has saved the space 228 00:13:05,862 --> 00:13:06,896 that we inherited. 229 00:13:08,758 --> 00:13:10,551 Narrator: In Alexandra Palace's theatre, 230 00:13:10,655 --> 00:13:13,137 where to start became the question. 231 00:13:13,241 --> 00:13:15,931 What to repair, what to leave, how to conserve. 232 00:13:16,896 --> 00:13:18,793 It was back to the drawing board. 233 00:13:23,068 --> 00:13:25,068 We started to think about 234 00:13:25,172 --> 00:13:27,482 how we would characterise the approach we were taking, 235 00:13:27,586 --> 00:13:29,413 the arrested decay seemed to capture it, 236 00:13:29,517 --> 00:13:33,620 in that you deal with those processes of decay 237 00:13:33,724 --> 00:13:37,344 or deterioration, we need to, if nothing else, 238 00:13:37,448 --> 00:13:39,965 assure the medium-term future of the building. 239 00:13:40,068 --> 00:13:41,448 We need to make it stable. 240 00:13:41,551 --> 00:13:42,689 We need to keep the water out. 241 00:13:42,793 --> 00:13:45,103 We need to stop it from getting worse. 242 00:13:45,206 --> 00:13:49,137 But then we reveal that condition of the building 243 00:13:49,241 --> 00:13:52,137 as a manifestation of the stories, 244 00:13:52,241 --> 00:13:54,551 the history of the building, and in a way, 245 00:13:54,655 --> 00:13:57,793 that history becomes legible in the surfaces of the theatre 246 00:13:57,896 --> 00:13:59,931 and the other rooms within the palace. 247 00:14:01,517 --> 00:14:04,931 It goes back to that very careful listening 248 00:14:05,034 --> 00:14:08,172 and understanding of what you're dealing with. 249 00:14:08,275 --> 00:14:10,965 Because the last thing that you want to do in a project 250 00:14:11,068 --> 00:14:14,620 is to cover or obscure those qualities 251 00:14:14,724 --> 00:14:17,379 which you're trying to bring out. 252 00:14:17,482 --> 00:14:21,206 So everything that's added is about supporting 253 00:14:21,310 --> 00:14:26,000 the heritage and the history and critically making it viable, 254 00:14:26,103 --> 00:14:30,172 making it capable of being used, perhaps in entirely new ways, 255 00:14:30,275 --> 00:14:33,275 or perhaps just revealing the history 256 00:14:33,379 --> 00:14:34,724 or what was significant. 257 00:14:56,689 --> 00:14:58,413 Narrator: The architect Matt Somerville 258 00:14:58,517 --> 00:15:00,344 came to the Alexandra Palace project 259 00:15:00,448 --> 00:15:02,344 with that useful label 'award winning'. 260 00:15:03,931 --> 00:15:05,724 His work at Chedworth Roman Villa 261 00:15:05,827 --> 00:15:07,896 in the Cotswolds for the National Trust 262 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,000 was recognised by the Royal Institute of British Architects. 263 00:15:13,241 --> 00:15:17,000 The Trust spent £2 million on a new conservation shelter 264 00:15:17,103 --> 00:15:19,896 and visitor and education centre. 265 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,862 Matt: Whenever you're confronted with a side 266 00:15:22,965 --> 00:15:26,965 of particular historic architectural significance, 267 00:15:27,068 --> 00:15:29,758 it's a kind of a puzzle 268 00:15:29,862 --> 00:15:32,275 to unpick what's significant about it, 269 00:15:32,379 --> 00:15:34,793 what's supporting that message, 270 00:15:34,896 --> 00:15:37,000 what is conflicting with the message 271 00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:40,172 or what's detracting from its significance. 272 00:15:40,275 --> 00:15:43,448 So it becomes a disassociation of those layers 273 00:15:43,551 --> 00:15:45,620 to determine which ones we want to reveal, 274 00:15:45,724 --> 00:15:47,241 which ones you want to repress, 275 00:15:47,344 --> 00:15:49,689 and then that informs how you then put something 276 00:15:49,793 --> 00:15:52,758 on top of that to then enhance what you want people 277 00:15:52,862 --> 00:15:55,034 to understand about that particular place. 278 00:15:58,724 --> 00:16:01,482 Narrator: Matt Somerville was walking in the footsteps 279 00:16:01,586 --> 00:16:02,793 of the last people to have a go 280 00:16:02,896 --> 00:16:04,793 at protecting this important site... 281 00:16:04,896 --> 00:16:06,137 ..the Victorians. 282 00:16:08,034 --> 00:16:10,448 We described our approach there as being one of, 283 00:16:10,551 --> 00:16:13,034 having a building that was silent, 284 00:16:13,137 --> 00:16:14,655 because we wanted the archaeology to be 285 00:16:14,758 --> 00:16:16,586 the star of the, of the show. 286 00:16:16,689 --> 00:16:20,241 And that was very much about taking a step back 287 00:16:20,344 --> 00:16:22,379 and doing something which isn't trying to be 288 00:16:22,482 --> 00:16:24,448 in the, in the limelight. 289 00:16:26,379 --> 00:16:28,655 Narrator: Chedworth was opened in 2012 290 00:16:28,758 --> 00:16:31,827 and won an RIBA National award the following year. 291 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,034 Today, Matt Somerville, who's based in Bath, 292 00:16:35,137 --> 00:16:39,172 is involved in a £5 million project to create 293 00:16:39,275 --> 00:16:41,896 a World Heritage Visitor Centre in a building 294 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,862 alongside the Roman Baths that once housed the city laundry. 295 00:16:45,965 --> 00:16:49,206 And, a bit like the Alexandra Palace theatre, 296 00:16:49,310 --> 00:16:50,586 had been all but forgotten. 297 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,793 And you wouldn't think there would be neglect 298 00:16:54,896 --> 00:16:55,931 in the centre of Bath, 299 00:16:56,034 --> 00:17:00,482 but certainly neglected in terms of their public visibility. 300 00:17:01,689 --> 00:17:04,172 This complex of industrial buildings, really, 301 00:17:04,275 --> 00:17:08,413 that supported the Victorian spa and bringing those back to use 302 00:17:08,517 --> 00:17:12,206 as being a way of breathing new life into those buildings. 303 00:17:12,310 --> 00:17:13,724 And again, we've managed to do that 304 00:17:13,827 --> 00:17:17,413 with relatively little intervention 305 00:17:17,517 --> 00:17:19,827 but with key additions just to give the signal 306 00:17:19,931 --> 00:17:22,172 that there's something new and that some things change 307 00:17:22,275 --> 00:17:24,000 and that they're welcoming the public 308 00:17:24,103 --> 00:17:27,068 in a way that's never happened in their history before. 309 00:17:29,275 --> 00:17:31,482 Narrator: In between the Roman Villa at Chedworth 310 00:17:31,586 --> 00:17:33,310 and the Roman Baths in Bath, 311 00:17:33,413 --> 00:17:37,551 Matt Somerville gave six years of his life to Alexandra Palace. 312 00:17:37,655 --> 00:17:39,172 He not only knows the train line 313 00:17:39,275 --> 00:17:41,551 between Bath and London intimately, 314 00:17:41,655 --> 00:17:45,275 he also knows every nook and cranny of the People's Palace. 315 00:17:53,586 --> 00:17:56,551 Sitting in the theatre that he has come to regard as his baby, 316 00:17:56,655 --> 00:17:59,724 Matt Somerville reflects on the challenges 317 00:17:59,827 --> 00:18:02,034 he and the team from Feilden Clegg Bradley faced 318 00:18:02,137 --> 00:18:06,448 adapting a Victorian theatre into a modern performance space. 319 00:18:06,551 --> 00:18:08,655 One that would give theatre companies 320 00:18:08,758 --> 00:18:12,896 the flexibility they required, comply with fire regulations, 321 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,482 but retain the character of John Johnson's creation. 322 00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:22,310 The approach we adopted was, in a sense, 323 00:18:22,413 --> 00:18:24,862 to change everything in that the space had to work 324 00:18:24,965 --> 00:18:27,275 in ways that were never anticipated 325 00:18:27,379 --> 00:18:28,827 by its original designers. 326 00:18:29,896 --> 00:18:32,241 But at the same time, we wanted people 327 00:18:32,344 --> 00:18:35,896 to have the same reaction and the same experience 328 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,965 of the space that we had when we first went in. 329 00:18:39,068 --> 00:18:40,758 I talked before about that wow moment, 330 00:18:40,862 --> 00:18:42,206 when you walk into the room. 331 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:44,551 And if people walk into that space now 332 00:18:44,655 --> 00:18:46,241 and don't have that reaction, 333 00:18:46,344 --> 00:18:49,000 then we'd consider that to be a failure. 334 00:18:49,103 --> 00:18:51,034 So we had to work around, almost surgically, 335 00:18:51,137 --> 00:18:55,655 work around some very fragile, very precious fabric 336 00:18:55,758 --> 00:18:58,482 and carry out some fairly major interventions. 337 00:18:59,689 --> 00:19:01,896 The largest of those interventions 338 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,034 was the removal of the entire floor which used to slope 339 00:19:05,137 --> 00:19:07,758 from the back of the auditorium down towards the stage 340 00:19:07,862 --> 00:19:11,586 at the front, which was great for performances 341 00:19:11,689 --> 00:19:13,413 within the stage, within the proscenium, 342 00:19:13,517 --> 00:19:17,965 but of course what it doesn't allow is more flexibility 343 00:19:18,068 --> 00:19:20,758 to bring performances out into the auditorium 344 00:19:20,862 --> 00:19:23,758 in a way that's flexible and variable. 345 00:19:23,862 --> 00:19:26,000 So we removed the sloping floor 346 00:19:26,103 --> 00:19:27,862 and put in a new flat floor, 347 00:19:27,965 --> 00:19:30,448 and then we re-laid the Victorian boards 348 00:19:30,551 --> 00:19:35,103 very carefully back on top of the new surface. 349 00:19:35,206 --> 00:19:39,172 And to support that with the performance happening 350 00:19:39,275 --> 00:19:40,793 out in the middle of the auditorium 351 00:19:40,896 --> 00:19:43,724 rather than through the proscenium, we had to, 352 00:19:43,827 --> 00:19:46,827 in effect, rebuild the circle balcony 353 00:19:46,931 --> 00:19:50,827 to a much steeper rake directly above the original. 354 00:19:50,931 --> 00:19:53,758 And then having brought the performance out 355 00:19:53,862 --> 00:19:55,413 into the auditorium, 356 00:19:55,517 --> 00:20:00,241 we wanted to envelop that performance with the audience 357 00:20:00,344 --> 00:20:04,000 and we built additional seating on the two side corridors 358 00:20:04,103 --> 00:20:07,103 that had been built into the theatre in the 1920s 359 00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:10,000 along the two long sides of that space. 360 00:20:10,103 --> 00:20:11,000 So suddenly you have, 361 00:20:11,103 --> 00:20:14,000 rather than the performance happening at one end 362 00:20:14,103 --> 00:20:17,620 and everyone looking monodirectionally 363 00:20:17,724 --> 00:20:18,758 at that performance, 364 00:20:18,862 --> 00:20:20,586 you have the performance out in the middle. 365 00:20:20,689 --> 00:20:22,931 You can do performance in the round. 366 00:20:23,034 --> 00:20:25,275 You can do performances on a thrust stage, 367 00:20:25,379 --> 00:20:27,586 or even on a traverse stage. 368 00:20:27,689 --> 00:20:30,103 And they're surrounded now by the audience. 369 00:20:30,206 --> 00:20:32,034 And it creates a space 370 00:20:32,137 --> 00:20:35,275 with a much more intimate character than it had before. 371 00:20:41,068 --> 00:20:43,655 Emma: One of the significant interventions was the floor. 372 00:20:43,758 --> 00:20:46,620 So the floor was on a rake and we had hoped 373 00:20:46,724 --> 00:20:48,862 that the sleeper walls that were under that floor 374 00:20:48,965 --> 00:20:53,103 would be able to carry a new floor to flatten it and be able, 375 00:20:53,206 --> 00:20:54,655 as you see today, in the auditorium, 376 00:20:54,758 --> 00:20:56,034 have a flexible space. 377 00:20:56,137 --> 00:20:57,655 But actually when we lifted the floor, 378 00:20:57,758 --> 00:21:00,379 we discovered that the dwarf walls underneath 379 00:21:00,482 --> 00:21:03,137 had been built by Victorian apprentice builders, 380 00:21:03,241 --> 00:21:06,206 and therefore not quite as strong as we had hoped. 381 00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:07,965 And so then we had to obviously go through 382 00:21:08,068 --> 00:21:09,448 a number of planning applications 383 00:21:09,551 --> 00:21:10,793 and listed building consent, 384 00:21:10,896 --> 00:21:13,586 and again working very closely with our Heritage colleagues 385 00:21:13,689 --> 00:21:16,137 and our conservation colleagues, we were able to come up 386 00:21:16,241 --> 00:21:19,034 with a solution which allowed us to bring the space 387 00:21:19,137 --> 00:21:23,689 into modern capabilities without losing that historical element. 388 00:21:29,068 --> 00:21:34,517 I think that we absolutely were in a moment of time I talk about 389 00:21:34,620 --> 00:21:37,413 where we had the right people with the right vision, 390 00:21:37,517 --> 00:21:39,551 the motivation and the energy 391 00:21:39,655 --> 00:21:41,689 to actually see a project like this through. 392 00:21:41,793 --> 00:21:43,275 Because I'm sure you can appreciate 393 00:21:43,379 --> 00:21:46,241 it takes an awful lot of time and commitment 394 00:21:46,344 --> 00:21:51,034 well beyond the normal 9 to 5 to realise a space like this. 395 00:21:51,137 --> 00:21:53,310 And you know, with our architects, FCBS, 396 00:21:53,413 --> 00:21:56,689 and the extended design team, I think we really came together 397 00:21:56,793 --> 00:21:59,413 as a team and we could, we could see the opportunity. 398 00:21:59,517 --> 00:22:00,862 You could almost smell it. 399 00:22:00,965 --> 00:22:03,137 And so people were really willing to push themselves 400 00:22:03,241 --> 00:22:05,689 that little extra just to make it happen. 401 00:22:32,793 --> 00:22:35,000 Narrator: In the long history of Alexandra palace, 402 00:22:35,103 --> 00:22:37,379 two events stand out. 403 00:22:37,482 --> 00:22:40,482 The first is the fire that destroyed everything 404 00:22:40,586 --> 00:22:45,068 inside its walls two weeks after opening, in 1873. 405 00:22:45,172 --> 00:22:49,172 The second is the fire that, in 1980, almost did the same. 406 00:22:50,517 --> 00:22:52,448 The difference between the two blazes 407 00:22:52,551 --> 00:22:55,965 is that the second spared the East Wing. 408 00:22:56,068 --> 00:22:57,655 John Johnson's theatre survived 409 00:22:57,758 --> 00:23:00,448 along with the famous BBC television mast. 410 00:23:04,862 --> 00:23:07,137 By now, it was owned by Haringey Council 411 00:23:07,241 --> 00:23:10,827 and they took on the job of restoring it after the fire. 412 00:23:10,931 --> 00:23:12,689 It took eight years. 413 00:23:20,586 --> 00:23:23,896 2016 - work has started on the theatre, 414 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,793 hidden from public view for 80 years. 415 00:23:26,896 --> 00:23:29,310 The BBC props department has moved out, 416 00:23:29,413 --> 00:23:30,724 and the builders have moved in. 417 00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:35,862 There will be no wholesale demolition here. 418 00:23:35,965 --> 00:23:38,724 Instead, a careful unpicking of the fabric, 419 00:23:38,827 --> 00:23:40,896 a long process filled with decisions 420 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,448 about what can be kept, what can be let go. 421 00:23:45,241 --> 00:23:47,896 At first, it resembles an archaeological dig 422 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,827 more than a restoration. 423 00:23:49,931 --> 00:23:51,413 There are hints at its history, 424 00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:53,448 a scrap of a flyer for a performance 425 00:23:53,551 --> 00:23:55,103 by Fred Karno's Great Company 426 00:23:55,206 --> 00:23:59,758 of Comedians, Pantomimists, Vocalists and Charming Ladies. 427 00:23:59,862 --> 00:24:01,862 Peeling away layers, 428 00:24:01,965 --> 00:24:05,448 the mechanics of the theatre are uncovered. 429 00:24:05,551 --> 00:24:08,379 It would have been lit by gas when it first opened. 430 00:24:08,482 --> 00:24:09,896 Later, electricity was added, 431 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,655 and the building is a study in 1920s wiring, 432 00:24:12,758 --> 00:24:15,344 with later additions. 433 00:24:15,448 --> 00:24:17,827 It's a revelation for the many of the tradespeople 434 00:24:17,931 --> 00:24:19,655 who live within sight of the palace. 435 00:24:21,034 --> 00:24:22,551 I think it's probably fair to say as well 436 00:24:22,655 --> 00:24:25,275 that so many people who did work on that site 437 00:24:25,379 --> 00:24:28,862 were from the local area and already had a connection 438 00:24:28,965 --> 00:24:31,827 with the place, and you really got a sense of pride 439 00:24:31,931 --> 00:24:35,482 with so many people involved in the making of that project. 440 00:24:35,586 --> 00:24:37,931 They were contributing. 441 00:24:38,034 --> 00:24:40,103 So there was a willingness, certainly, 442 00:24:40,206 --> 00:24:43,172 to, to buy into that, that approach. 443 00:24:46,275 --> 00:24:47,655 Narrator: Scaffolding goes up 444 00:24:47,758 --> 00:24:49,379 to allow the architects and builders 445 00:24:49,482 --> 00:24:52,275 to get up close and personal with part of the theatre 446 00:24:52,379 --> 00:24:54,758 that may give them the most trouble... 447 00:24:54,862 --> 00:24:55,896 ..the ceiling. 448 00:24:58,965 --> 00:25:00,965 Matt: It's effectively two different phases 449 00:25:01,068 --> 00:25:01,931 of construction. 450 00:25:02,034 --> 00:25:04,103 There's the flat ceiling, 451 00:25:04,206 --> 00:25:06,689 which is the original Victorian structure. 452 00:25:06,793 --> 00:25:09,724 It just would have had a painted, decorative scheme 453 00:25:09,827 --> 00:25:12,965 in common with the rest of the palace. 454 00:25:13,068 --> 00:25:14,931 It would have used the simplest materials 455 00:25:15,034 --> 00:25:17,758 to the greatest possible visual effect. 456 00:25:17,862 --> 00:25:21,413 The decorative scheme is 1920s, and that was actually 457 00:25:21,517 --> 00:25:24,758 in very, very good condition comparatively. 458 00:25:24,862 --> 00:25:27,965 But it was the flats that was failing, that was very poor. 459 00:25:28,068 --> 00:25:31,862 We've got chicken wire that was nailed, 460 00:25:31,965 --> 00:25:34,241 thousands of big nails into the ceiling 461 00:25:34,344 --> 00:25:35,862 across the entire surface, 462 00:25:35,965 --> 00:25:38,827 held in place with the wooden battens. 463 00:25:40,793 --> 00:25:42,655 And initially you come into a space like this 464 00:25:42,758 --> 00:25:45,241 and you think we need to take that away, 465 00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:49,103 it's obscuring the reading of the historic fabric. 466 00:25:49,206 --> 00:25:50,965 But it very quickly became apparent 467 00:25:51,068 --> 00:25:52,689 that the more we touched on that ceiling, 468 00:25:52,793 --> 00:25:56,931 given its fragility, the more we were actually going to lose. 469 00:25:57,034 --> 00:26:00,275 So it became an approach of minimum intervention. 470 00:26:00,379 --> 00:26:03,827 The less you intervene, the more you preserve. 471 00:26:03,931 --> 00:26:05,896 And instead of intervening underneath 472 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,896 and taking away all of the chicken wire, well, 473 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,896 now we've taken it away from the elaborate mouldings, 474 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,655 we repaired the ceiling from above instead 475 00:26:14,758 --> 00:26:18,448 in a way which is invisible from within the auditorium. 476 00:26:18,551 --> 00:26:22,103 The level of detail that we went into was extraordinary. 477 00:26:22,206 --> 00:26:24,172 I mean, when this entire space was filled 478 00:26:24,275 --> 00:26:27,620 with the scaffold birdcage, Matt and I spent hours 479 00:26:27,724 --> 00:26:30,241 up at the top of the scaffold having many debates 480 00:26:30,344 --> 00:26:32,689 about how many holes we were leaving in the ceiling, 481 00:26:32,793 --> 00:26:33,862 which holes we were leaving, 482 00:26:33,965 --> 00:26:36,655 where the lats were going to go, where they weren't. 483 00:26:36,758 --> 00:26:39,655 You know, every inch of this space has been thought through 484 00:26:39,758 --> 00:26:42,241 to such a minutiae of detail, 485 00:26:42,344 --> 00:26:44,482 but it was absolutely worth it for the end result. 486 00:26:44,586 --> 00:26:46,103 And I think it's quite easy for people 487 00:26:46,206 --> 00:26:49,655 to come into this space and say, "Oh, well, what have you done?" 488 00:26:49,758 --> 00:26:50,827 But actually, I love that. 489 00:26:50,931 --> 00:26:53,137 It's like this idea that we haven't really done anything. 490 00:26:53,241 --> 00:26:55,655 We've just opened it up to the world once more. 491 00:26:55,758 --> 00:27:00,172 Narrator: The walls of the theatre 492 00:27:00,275 --> 00:27:02,586 have been knocked about over the years but they, 493 00:27:02,689 --> 00:27:05,586 and most of the damage, will stay... 494 00:27:05,689 --> 00:27:08,068 ..even some additions made in the 1920s. 495 00:27:08,172 --> 00:27:11,482 It's all part of the theatre's architectural history. 496 00:27:13,413 --> 00:27:15,862 - Matt and the team that he led at FCBS 497 00:27:15,965 --> 00:27:17,758 really got under the skin 498 00:27:17,862 --> 00:27:20,344 of what Alexandra Palace is actually about. 499 00:27:20,448 --> 00:27:23,965 Not only in the past but also for the future. 500 00:27:24,068 --> 00:27:28,137 And we really wanted this space to elevate Alexandra Palace 501 00:27:28,241 --> 00:27:30,000 onto a cultural landscape, 502 00:27:30,103 --> 00:27:32,000 not only within London but within the UK, 503 00:27:32,103 --> 00:27:34,931 that we probably haven't occupied for a very long time. 504 00:27:36,034 --> 00:27:38,172 And FCBS absolutely understood that, 505 00:27:38,275 --> 00:27:40,000 and that's not to say there weren't challenges 506 00:27:40,103 --> 00:27:42,137 along the way, and sort of many debates 507 00:27:42,241 --> 00:27:43,827 about certain elements of the project, 508 00:27:43,931 --> 00:27:45,448 but we were always on the same page, 509 00:27:45,551 --> 00:27:47,689 and I think that's 100% why 510 00:27:47,793 --> 00:27:50,862 this has been such a successful project in the round. 511 00:27:50,965 --> 00:27:52,724 One of the triumphs for me in this space 512 00:27:52,827 --> 00:27:55,206 is the fact that we were able to lift the floorboards, 513 00:27:55,310 --> 00:27:58,344 number them and put them down exactly as they were, 514 00:27:58,448 --> 00:27:59,413 which again, you know, 515 00:27:59,517 --> 00:28:03,206 just retains this atmosphere that was here originally. 516 00:28:10,448 --> 00:28:12,965 Narrator: In architecture, construction is often seen 517 00:28:13,068 --> 00:28:14,379 as the poor relation, 518 00:28:14,482 --> 00:28:17,000 much less glamorous than the finished work. 519 00:28:17,103 --> 00:28:21,103 At Ally Pally, one man saw the build in another light. 520 00:28:28,241 --> 00:28:29,689 Photographer Keith Armstrong 521 00:28:29,793 --> 00:28:32,379 worked for the construction company and was amazed 522 00:28:32,482 --> 00:28:35,517 to discover that no-one was keeping 523 00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:42,206 a visual record of the project. 524 00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:43,310 He did. 525 00:28:44,137 --> 00:28:45,724 In his spare time. 526 00:28:48,655 --> 00:28:49,965 Every month for two years. 527 00:29:00,379 --> 00:29:03,655 The result is an essay that turns decaying walls, 528 00:29:03,758 --> 00:29:05,586 exposed pipes, scaffolding, 529 00:29:05,689 --> 00:29:09,724 a sagging ceiling and floorboards into art. 530 00:29:32,862 --> 00:29:35,517 Keith Armstrong's labour of love started life 531 00:29:35,620 --> 00:29:38,620 as a possible entry in a photographic competition. 532 00:29:38,724 --> 00:29:40,172 It soon took over his life. 533 00:29:54,482 --> 00:29:57,862 6,000 clicks later, we have a unique portrait 534 00:29:57,965 --> 00:30:01,965 of what went on behind the scenes at Alexandra Palace. 535 00:30:56,275 --> 00:30:58,241 The East Wing of Alexandra Palace 536 00:30:58,344 --> 00:31:00,758 is ready to receive visitors. 537 00:31:00,862 --> 00:31:03,827 Where once the BBC stored outside broadcast trucks, 538 00:31:03,931 --> 00:31:06,379 the graphic artists Art & Believe 539 00:31:06,482 --> 00:31:09,000 have created a spectacular painted floor, 540 00:31:09,103 --> 00:31:12,137 an installation artwork that you can walk on. 541 00:31:23,413 --> 00:31:24,689 But what those who've lived 542 00:31:24,793 --> 00:31:26,862 with Alexandra Palace all their lives, 543 00:31:26,965 --> 00:31:28,758 either looking at it every day or using it, 544 00:31:28,862 --> 00:31:31,103 want to see is the theatre, 545 00:31:31,206 --> 00:31:34,344 that grand space whose seats would once have been filled 546 00:31:34,448 --> 00:31:37,448 with 3,000 people, a secret space 547 00:31:37,551 --> 00:31:39,310 now recovered from dereliction. 548 00:31:41,689 --> 00:31:43,793 First in are the patrons. 549 00:31:43,896 --> 00:31:48,034 People who supported this £27 million restoration. 550 00:31:48,137 --> 00:31:51,000 What would they think of the 'arrested decay'? 551 00:31:56,551 --> 00:31:59,655 I think some people who had been bought their donations 552 00:31:59,758 --> 00:32:01,724 who had not necessarily bought into the project 553 00:32:01,827 --> 00:32:02,931 personally themselves, 554 00:32:03,034 --> 00:32:05,344 took a little bit of explanation. 555 00:32:05,448 --> 00:32:08,344 Did we do it this way because there wasn't enough budget? 556 00:32:08,448 --> 00:32:12,310 Did we do it this way because we ran out of budget? 557 00:32:12,413 --> 00:32:13,827 But no. 558 00:32:13,931 --> 00:32:16,241 It was always the intention and most can be persuaded 559 00:32:16,344 --> 00:32:21,275 that, for some traditionalists who like the pastiche approach, 560 00:32:21,379 --> 00:32:23,758 it will always be difficult to get. 561 00:32:25,758 --> 00:32:27,310 Narrator: Among the first productions 562 00:32:27,413 --> 00:32:30,758 in what's being called 'London's Newest Old Theatre' 563 00:32:30,862 --> 00:32:32,724 is Shakespeare's Richard III, 564 00:32:32,827 --> 00:32:36,034 whose staging masks the original proscenium arch. 565 00:32:38,586 --> 00:32:41,344 But this just demonstrates the flexibility 566 00:32:41,448 --> 00:32:43,655 of the new design, with its thrust stage 567 00:32:43,758 --> 00:32:46,896 and the ability to stage performances in the round. 568 00:32:50,586 --> 00:32:53,000 I was lucky enough to go along to performances 569 00:32:53,103 --> 00:32:56,724 in the first week that the theatre reopened, 570 00:32:56,827 --> 00:32:59,931 and just to feel that space suddenly alive. 571 00:33:00,034 --> 00:33:02,689 I mean, that's what it was waiting for all of that time. 572 00:33:02,793 --> 00:33:04,379 There were hundreds of people in there. 573 00:33:04,482 --> 00:33:06,724 It was filled with music and applause, 574 00:33:06,827 --> 00:33:10,965 and that's when that, I mean, that really becomes tangible. 575 00:33:11,068 --> 00:33:12,379 That's when you appreciate that 576 00:33:12,482 --> 00:33:13,931 that's what the building should be doing 577 00:33:14,034 --> 00:33:17,793 and that's how the building's received and being used. 578 00:33:17,896 --> 00:33:21,448 Narrator: New audiences may find as much interest around them 579 00:33:21,551 --> 00:33:22,862 as in front of them. 580 00:33:22,965 --> 00:33:26,000 They could be sitting next to a hole in the dress circle, 581 00:33:26,103 --> 00:33:29,448 or an apparently crumbling wall. 582 00:33:29,551 --> 00:33:32,517 Matt: That patina that those decades have left 583 00:33:32,620 --> 00:33:36,000 on the fabric of the building, it felt really important in here 584 00:33:36,103 --> 00:33:40,344 not to take away the character that makes a space unique. 585 00:33:40,448 --> 00:33:42,758 And we've seen, actually, photographs 586 00:33:42,862 --> 00:33:45,931 from the 1920s restoration which make it look perfect. 587 00:33:46,034 --> 00:33:50,137 But also strangely characterless. 588 00:33:50,241 --> 00:33:53,448 And what the space now tells beyond that period of, 589 00:33:53,551 --> 00:33:57,034 of repair is a story which is a story of its use 590 00:33:57,137 --> 00:33:59,551 as a theatre, it's falling out of use, 591 00:33:59,655 --> 00:34:04,655 it's used as a prop store, and that period of neglect. 592 00:34:04,758 --> 00:34:07,517 And that is something that just becomes tangible 593 00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:09,310 when you stand in here, 594 00:34:09,413 --> 00:34:10,965 when you get up close to the fabric 595 00:34:11,068 --> 00:34:14,551 and you can see it's clearly, it's clearly not perfect. 596 00:34:14,655 --> 00:34:17,241 But that expresses something about the story of the building, 597 00:34:17,344 --> 00:34:19,000 the history of the building is legible 598 00:34:19,103 --> 00:34:21,137 in all of these surfaces. 599 00:34:23,724 --> 00:34:25,655 Narrator: Lighting rigs have been installed, 600 00:34:25,758 --> 00:34:28,413 a lighting control gallery created above the remains 601 00:34:28,517 --> 00:34:31,689 of the projection box from the theatre's days as a cinema, 602 00:34:31,793 --> 00:34:35,000 and the ceiling has been ingeniously held together. 603 00:34:36,827 --> 00:34:39,344 And there is, at the front of the dress circle, 604 00:34:39,448 --> 00:34:42,827 a microcosm of this unusual restoration. 605 00:34:44,068 --> 00:34:45,862 Looking at the fabric here, 606 00:34:45,965 --> 00:34:48,379 we've got the Victorian flounce 607 00:34:48,482 --> 00:34:51,689 and the curving plaster of the circle balcony. 608 00:34:51,793 --> 00:34:53,758 We've got applied elements, 609 00:34:53,862 --> 00:34:57,172 the applied decorative plaster elements from the 1920s. 610 00:34:57,275 --> 00:34:58,413 And then even looking behind 611 00:34:58,517 --> 00:35:01,103 where this one has been removed here, 612 00:35:01,206 --> 00:35:03,103 we can see if we look very closely, 613 00:35:03,206 --> 00:35:06,000 an element of the Victorian painted scheme. 614 00:35:06,103 --> 00:35:08,965 And then even in light pencil, the initials, 615 00:35:09,068 --> 00:35:12,068 probably of the person who put the plaster element 616 00:35:12,172 --> 00:35:14,103 over the top of that. 617 00:35:14,206 --> 00:35:17,827 So it tells a story of how the space has been treated. 618 00:35:17,931 --> 00:35:21,517 And again, rather than peeling those away, they're just left. 619 00:35:31,172 --> 00:35:34,482 Narrator: The arrested decay has become a talking point. 620 00:35:34,586 --> 00:35:36,896 In covering the opening, the BBC's Arts Editor, 621 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,413 Will Gompertz, labels it a triumph, 622 00:35:39,517 --> 00:35:41,724 gives it five stars and calls it 623 00:35:41,827 --> 00:35:45,000 'shabby chic taken to an entirely new level.' 624 00:35:47,448 --> 00:35:49,517 Entering the theatre was, he said, 625 00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:51,931 so romantic that it was not so much 626 00:35:52,034 --> 00:35:55,620 like stepping back in time as walking into a novel. 627 00:35:59,793 --> 00:36:01,206 - It really is quite wonderful. 628 00:36:01,310 --> 00:36:03,068 I think it still takes my breath away, actually, 629 00:36:03,172 --> 00:36:04,275 every time I come in here, 630 00:36:04,379 --> 00:36:06,172 even though I've been in here a lot obviously 631 00:36:06,275 --> 00:36:08,034 over the time of the project. 632 00:36:08,137 --> 00:36:11,482 I think what really we enjoy is also seeing audiences 633 00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:14,448 coming into the space and they have this gasp of excitement, 634 00:36:14,551 --> 00:36:16,517 sort of like they're urban explorers having found 635 00:36:16,620 --> 00:36:19,379 this hidden gem that's been lost for generations. 636 00:36:21,724 --> 00:36:23,206 And this was a one-shot wonder. 637 00:36:23,310 --> 00:36:25,517 We did not have the opportunity to fail. 638 00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:27,620 It had to be a success. 639 00:36:27,724 --> 00:36:29,586 Because it's so important for the future 640 00:36:29,689 --> 00:36:31,551 of Alexandra Palace that it was. 641 00:36:33,862 --> 00:36:35,068 The performances in the theatre 642 00:36:35,172 --> 00:36:37,689 have been amazing and the feedback to the East Court 643 00:36:37,793 --> 00:36:39,448 and the theatre has just been wonderful. 644 00:36:39,551 --> 00:36:41,689 One of my favourite moments of the whole project 645 00:36:41,793 --> 00:36:44,758 was when we opened the doors to the public 646 00:36:44,862 --> 00:36:47,586 and they came in and they loved it. 647 00:36:47,689 --> 00:36:49,241 And the buzz in this space 648 00:36:49,344 --> 00:36:51,689 is exactly what the palace was made for. 649 00:36:51,793 --> 00:36:54,379 For the public, for their enjoyment. 650 00:37:02,448 --> 00:37:03,862 - It's a massive privilege. 651 00:37:03,965 --> 00:37:08,620 It's an enormous responsibility, as well. 652 00:37:08,724 --> 00:37:10,896 I think it's probably fair to say that in a lifetime, 653 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,620 though, there aren't that many projects like Ally Pally. 654 00:37:13,724 --> 00:37:15,034 I know there will never be anything 655 00:37:15,137 --> 00:37:16,482 quite like Ally Pally again. 656 00:37:16,586 --> 00:37:18,896 It's, it's truly unique. 657 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,482 And there aren't many buildings 658 00:37:20,586 --> 00:37:23,379 about which you can genuinely say they're an icon, 659 00:37:23,482 --> 00:37:26,758 but Ally Pally certainly is an icon. 660 00:37:27,965 --> 00:37:31,000 [applause in background] 661 00:37:46,137 --> 00:37:49,137 Captioned by Ai-Media ai-media.tv 54613

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