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Narrator: In Scotland,
one of the nation's
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best-known whisky-makers has
built a new distillery.
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Dropped into the hillside above
the River Spey,
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it's unlike any other.
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[intense piano music]
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It could be a structure from
the Cold War,
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or something out of
James Bond...
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A year after it was opened,
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it's become a stop
on the tourist trail,
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and not just for the whisky.
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The competition to design this
most unusual of distilleries
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was won by the London-based
partnership
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of Richard Rogers, Graham Stirk
and Ivan Harbour.
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And to Graham Stirk fell
the task of re-imagining
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an age-old process for
the 21st century.
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Graham Stirk: The whole point
was the mystery revealed.
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Suddenly this distillery
pops up.
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And the mystery revealed was why
we were very interested in...
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The word we used in the
presentation was this is...
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this is Jules Verne.
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This is something where you find
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a piece of almost Victorian
engineering buried
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and still functioning below
ground.
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And it was the contrast of
the two which was actually
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really, really important.
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[intense and quick piano music]
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[upbeat percussive
ensemble music]
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Narrator: Few architects can
afford to work in a building
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they designed.
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Graham Stirk does.
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His office is
in Leadenhall Street
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in the City of London,
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in the building affectionately
known as the 'Cheesegrater',
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which sprang from his drawing
board in 2000
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and cost its developers
£340 million.
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From his desk he can see -
and almost touch -
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the Lloyds Headquarters,
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on which he worked over
thirty years ago,
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when he first joined
Richard Rogers,
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the architect who gave the world
the Pompidou Centre.
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The Lloyd's Building is still
a source of wonder to him...
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[rhythmic piano ensemble music]
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Graham: When I joined, Lloyds of
London was a hole in the ground.
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They'd done Pompidou, so...
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..and...
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..it's interesting...
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..coming out of college
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and then finding yourself
on something like that,
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I mean, maybe some people are
cooler than I,
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but I... I found it...
God, I was...
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..I found it terrifying.
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And... it's all pre- computer,
as well.
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Lloyds of London. So, it's all
hand drawn.
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Try to find your way around it.
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The first year was...
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..I learnt a great deal.
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Narrator: Graham Stirk came to
work for Richard Rogers in 1983,
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rapidly became a director,
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and, in 2007, Rogers changed
the name of his practice
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to reflect Stirk and
Ivan Harbour's contribution
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to the business.
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There's a name and a reputation
to live up to.
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Which means there is pressure in
Graham Stirk's everyday life,
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though you would hardly know it.
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With his team, he's become used
to drawing buildings,
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which are complex,
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not only in their appearance,
but also in the way they work.
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And, over the years,
he's adjusted his mind
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to design at scale - something
not all architects achieve.
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[rhythmic and whimsical
piano music]
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Size marks out his buildings,
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and may have influenced
the Scottish whisky giant,
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Macallan, when it chose him
to design a new distillery
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and visitor experience on their
site in north-east Scotland,
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Speyside, the spiritual home
of the many firms -
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big and small,
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which produce what Scots like
to call 'the water of life.'
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[fervent string music]
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But, first, there was a
competition to be won,
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which meant a crash course
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in the mechanics of whisky
production.
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Graham: I found... I found it
fascinating
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and went, what? What do this...
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..what does this equipment
look like?
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So, we were Googling what
the equipment was like,
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we were... well, so we got all
the stills wrong,
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the wrong shapes
in the first one.
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Was... what does... and
then... what...
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the... you know, we were trying
to understand
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what this equipment was,
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and then we realised as well
at the competition,
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we knew it wasn't going to be
a modern art gallery.
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It wasn't going to be this
beautiful,
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cool space with a few beautiful
stills sat within it, you know?
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It's an industrial production.
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And at that time, this idea
of moving it into a big,
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rectangular building with
circular...
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..each circle represents,
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what is required to make
five million litres
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of whiskey a year.
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And so we... we decided in terms
of the legibility
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that each would then represent
something that would inform
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the bulge in... in the roof.
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I suppose the artistry is...
it's not all the same.
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Where does one enter
the building?
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And, which is why when they
rock, they roll
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and then one goes higher
to signal the entrance.
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[intriguing orchestral music]
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Narrator: Graham Stirk's first
sketches included a diagram
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that showed the component parts
of production.
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Then came a series of sketches
of the humped roofs
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that would eventually sit above
the whisky-producing stills.
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The sketch was inputted
to a computer
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and refined into a wire
diagram modelling
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not only the overall shape, but
also the individual squares
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that would make up the roof...
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..squares which would contain
vegetation
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to help it blend into
the landscape.
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And, the wire diagram,
a 2D image on a screen,
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was turned into a physical
model,
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so that the team could get up
close and personal
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with the spaces they were
designing.
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But, through all the iterations
of the design,
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from plans to technical
drawings,
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the scheme never moved far
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from Graham Stirk's first
sketch.
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[playful string orchestral
music]
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[suspenseful single notes]
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Graham Hutcheon: Graham Stirk
kind of hit it on the head.
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He got the lie of the land
right,
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he got... sympathy with the
environment it was in,
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and he came up with some really
interesting ideas
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from the roof to the
visitor centre
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being part of the whole building
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and that kind of symbiosis
of brand and operations
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was really, really well
understood.
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He kind of got the hard wire.
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[emotive piano music]
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Two things inspired us.
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The design and the concept as...
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..as presented,
and Graham himself.
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The passion - he's quite a
quiet and reserved individual,
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but the passion come out of him
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when he presented this... this
wonderful concept.
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And actually what we've got in
reality is not too far removed
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from the original concept that
was presented in 2012.
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[striking single note from
an organ]
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Graham Stirk: It's a thing that
sometimes we use,
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it's... it begins as a diagram,
but the diagram,
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you can't start with a diagram
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and just follow a logical
process
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and arrive at a building.
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You have to test the
architectural possibilities
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of how something can resolve
the complexity
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of this problem elegantly, and
begin to give meaning and drama
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to the process that's taking
place within,
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in this particular instance.
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You have to artificially
accelerate...
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..where a building may head,
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because you need to create
visual images.
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It's... we used to do it with
evocative sketches.
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It's difficult to hide
or to keep loose,
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especially with our form
of architecture
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it's not something you just say
that's the image.
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You know, these things take
an awful lot of evolution.
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[emotive orchestral music]
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Narrator: There is a marked
difference between designing
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for the City of London
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and designing for the
countryside of Scotland.
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Graham Stirk didn't immediately
walk the site,
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but thinking about it from his
desk in London
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he realised that his building
must complement
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the surrounding hills,
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blend in... ideally sink in,
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though his team knew that would
be expensive.
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[emotive string music]
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Graham Stirk: I prefer to test
ideas and then view something.
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Mainly because it's so possible
to be able to explore things
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through terrain relationships.
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The idea of making it part
of the landscape
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was which form of architecture
do we derive.
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We... if we were in
an open field
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or in a valley as
a stand-alone building,
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you could create something
that sits
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as a very beautiful contrast
to that.
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This had a backdrop
of a whole series
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of maturation facility
buildings,
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which basically hold much of the
spirit for ten years minimum.
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And then you had a small village
adjacent to it,
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which is the existing facility,
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which has its utilitarian
components
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and the older maturation sheds.
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What form of architecture
do you introduce?
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So, our view was to make
something
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which was of a landscape,
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but very clearly a man-made
landscape.
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Graham Hutcheon: Whether in
London or here, we met him,
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and the ideas would just come
rolling out
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and he'd draw them down
and nothing is discarded.
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He keeps all the drawings,
and they're in a book, actually,
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and many of these sketches
he did.
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And they became part
of the process.
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So, he has a talent, there's
no doubt about that,
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that it's terrific to watch.
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But as an engineer myself,
as an engineer,
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what I was impressed by Graham
and his team
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is he understood the
practicalities of what
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they were doing.
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Can you build it?
Can you make it?
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It gave our construction team
some real challenges,
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to be perfectly honest.
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But they got through it and they
got through it together.
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And if it didn't work,
they'd tweak it
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and change the design as they
went along.
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But fundamentally,
the team were terrific.
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It was a great experience over
39 months of a build, yeah.
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Narrator: Though the new
distillery would be sunk
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into the hillside,
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its roof would be there
for all to see.
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It would take its cue from
the surrounding hills
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and it would be a good
example of something architects
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often talk about,
form following function.
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Toby Jeavons: The roof is the
response to the landscape.
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It is deliberately rotational
in its form,
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which is a reflection
of the arrangement,
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the very particular arrangement,
of the production equipment
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that we laid down in these
repetitive cells.
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It's also very much a system.
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So, the accentuation over
the visitor experience
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obviously gives you that
slightly cathedral like space
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as a visitor, particularly when
you move into...
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..from the compression
of the entrance
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out into the visitor experience.
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And then the notion of this sort
of exhibition space here,
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the roof geometry flattens out,
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and the idea is that
it's an extrusion.
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In theory it could keep going.
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It's no longer a response
to the production equipment
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that is happening underneath.
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So yeah, it's localised,
so it's an approach
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and a response to the activities
that are happening beneath.
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We don't have a fermentation
room and a still room.
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We have a cell of production
that...
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..that collectively produces
five million litres of...
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..of spirits.
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That can then be replicated
numerous times.
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Once there was a decision
to want to respond sensitively
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in this location...
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..the essence of a concept,
I think,
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began to form.
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was so radically different
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from anything on Speyside,
where most distilleries
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have grown up organically
and operate on a small scale.
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That there was a question mark
over whether Macallan
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would be prepared to invest the
money required to realise it.
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And, if the answer was yes,
would they stay the course
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over four years of construction,
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footing the bill for
the smart interior
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whose details the architect
and his team believed
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were as important
as the exterior.
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Graham Hutcheon: And my mantra
was we cannot remove
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the design intent.
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Regardless of the pressures
we're under from...
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..there's always budgetary
pressures
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in these kind of projects
and companies go down
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and you've got to change
the supplier.
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The design intent
was fundamental.
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We had to deliver the wow factor
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that we were trying to deliver
from the very outset.
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So yeah, we had to hold the
line, we had to work together,
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we had to compromise,
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and agree a way forward,
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and it was a very refreshing
experience.
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Richard Rogers,
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now Lord Rogers of Riverside,
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for the Pompidou Centre
in Paris, 1971,
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and the
Lloyd's Register Headquarters
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in the City of London, in 1988.
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Today, his practice thrives
on the work of 200 staff
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led by the two partners whose
names were added to the practice
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in 2007...
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..Ivan Harbour,
his 'Maggie's Centre' in London
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and Terminal four
at Madrid Airport,
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both won the Stirling Prize.
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And, Graham Stirk, born in
Leeds, a good drawer at school,
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later a scholarship student at
the Architectural Association,
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who was introduced to Richard
Rogers in the early 1980s,
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and never looked back.
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Nearly four decades later,
Graham Stirk takes the credit
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for projects such as
Number One Hyde Park,
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and the Leadenhall Building,
the Wedge,
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that became to Londoners
the 'Cheesegrater'.
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Graham Stirk: This building
is interesting.
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Having worked on Lloyds of
London 30-odd years earlier,
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this was a speculative office
building
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that had no known end user
at that time.
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We were opposite the most
bespoke headquarters building
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for a world organisation on the
opposite side of the road.
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And the prospect is terrifying.
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When the... you know,
the budget similarities
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of the legibility of Lloyds,
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which is a beautiful diagram,
as you fully know...
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..and how does one manifest that
same level of clarity
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of communicating and celebrating
everything that's necessary
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to make a modern building work,
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it's a trip round the size
museum,
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slightly more elegantly
presented,
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is... the prospect is terrifying
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and the whole mechanisms,
cost profiles,
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regulations, everything have all
changed since then.
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So, we have to kind of keep
moving with each of the shifts
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to see whether we could
actually...
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..we can't replicate it.
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But we can still be
as communicative
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with what it is we're trying
to... design.
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Narrator: The Leadenhall
Building was adjusted
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during its design, to lean back.
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Why? To protect views
of St Paul's Cathedral.
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It was just one of the moments
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that gave Graham Stirk
sleepless nights.
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Graham Stirk: I suppose
at that time,
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we fill our site.
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Historically, building towers
was always about
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being able to give the residual
amount of site
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over to public space.
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This had to create something
unusual,
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it would create a lot more
permeability,
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where if you've ever...
I now work in...
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..in the city of London.
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It is incredibly congested
public realm.
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It's too valuable for anything
to be given up.
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So, the creation of something
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that could begin to create
incidental spatial drama
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as one moves through
the streets is important.
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It's... essentially, it's
a creation of public realm,
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inception of the plan so
you can't see the public spacing
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from the air.
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Confidence comes with you at
different particular stages
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when things are going well.
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It's a temporary,
fleeting thing.
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It's a real drag, if I was
honest. It's a real drag.
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And... I suppose there are times
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when you talk in hindsight
of how excited and fantastic.
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There are other times when it's
really difficult. Really ugly.
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And... stressful.
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But in a sense you are part
of a much wider process.
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I suppose it's trying
to maintain some sense
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of integrity within
a much wider field
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of decision making processes
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that are involved in large
scale buildings.
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Narrator: The Leadenhall
Building
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took fourteen years of Graham
Stirk's life, from 2000 to 2014.
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But in 2004,
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he also started sketching
something very different,
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a new winery for a co-operative
in the Ribera del Duero region
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of Spain.
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Looking back, we can see some of
the shapes he would later use
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on the distillery in Scotland.
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Graham Stirk: I think it's
important sometimes
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to have a very powerful...
philosophic approach,
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which doesn't necessarily mean
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that you're producing
a particular style of building
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that you then wish to kind
of test against
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lots of different typologies.
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So, building an agro-industrial
shed in Protos
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was... will make a very, very
beautiful, noble shed.
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And it's beautifully expressive
of how it's made.
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It communicates through a glass
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where people can see the
processes that take place.
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It creates a very, very
beautiful public realm.
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Most of these buildings have
to have a relationship
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not only to those that are
using the building,
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but also those that
don't use it.
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So, we have to oscillate between
the expectations of our client
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and the wider expectations
of society.
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Narrator: The winery in Spain
was designed for the weather.
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Graham Stirk could afford
to make a light structure.
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In Scotland, something chunkier
would be required.
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And it would be bigger...
much bigger.
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It would be unique.
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[romantic string orchestral
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Graham Stirk: I mean, for us,
we're trying to... you know,
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like everyone, we're trying
to find a relevant vocabulary
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for the 21st century.
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[stirring orchestral music]
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Narrator: Perhaps the
greatest challenge
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in the art of architecture
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is ensuring that what you draw
is what you get.
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It's one thing to conceptualise
a building,
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from the initial sketch through
computer renders
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to the technical drawings that
will be used on site.
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It is quite another to be there
when your design is executed.
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And the road to that point can
be very long.
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Toby Jeavons: There were many
challenges over the way,
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so it's... it's...
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..it's a scheme of very high
ambition,
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located in a fairly remote part
of the country.
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It required the absolute
commitment of everybody involved
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from all of the design team,
the client, principally,
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who had the original ambition to
do something quite different
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within the industry.
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Down to all of the contractors
involved.
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I think the level
of coordination
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that has been achieved,
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which was something that we
aspired to do collectively
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as a team, is a testament to
that commitment and hard work
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that everybody put in.
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That's... that's sort of
manifest in two distinct areas,
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I think. First of all
is the integration
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between the process equipment,
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the actual whiskey making
equipment,
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and the hardware of the
building, if we will.
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Both within the logistic
coordination
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of bringing all of this
production equipment into place.
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The various integration of...
of the computer modelling
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that was used and exchanged both
between the design,
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the building shell and core
design team,
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and the process engineers
and Forsyths
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who were leading the design
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and installation
of the process equipment.
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That I think is fantastic,
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and the way in which all the
process equipment
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sits within this open
grillage...
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..gantry floor, is something
to be seen.
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And then the coordination
of the timber roof.
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So, the timber roof, with its
primary steel support,
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and the concrete,
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is similarly the integration
coordination required
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for those three component parts
to come together,
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in the location, potentially in
the weather, working at height.
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I think they were some
real challenges,
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which were set to the
whole team.
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All the timber's coming from
Austria.
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The primary steelwork's made
in... just outside York.
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So, that final level of design
integration was essential,
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and then the physical tolerances
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of bringing these component
parts together.
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No-one wanted to be the weak
link that drops the ball.
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Narrator: The art of
architecture
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became the art of construction
as the engineers took
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Graham Stirk's design and
created it on the ground...
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including the unique
timber roof.
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Bob Lang: Timber is a
particularly appropriate
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material here, because it is
lightweight, and in engineering,
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you can actually reach
a situation
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where you're putting material in
to haul material up
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So, what we did was to make the
permanent structure
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as light as we could, and also
take advantage of the geometry,
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because there was inherent
stiffness in the geometry.
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However, the... the concrete
structure,
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the bit that retains the earth,
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is... is... is almost
completely divorced
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from the timber roof.
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That is to say the roof sits
on the concrete.
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It's quite often the case
that the walls
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that hold the earth back will be
resisted by the roof.
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We completely didn't want that.
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So, any... any lateral force,
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any disturbing force
of the roof,
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is taken by this steel
structure here.
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So any... could be snow that's
banked heavily on one side,
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it could be the wind, it could
be some thermal movement,
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several, several things.
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But the whole of the lateral
resistance
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is taken in this frame here.
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And this frame has two purposes.
One is to take the lateral load.
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The other one is to take
the vertical load.
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So vertical load.
Lateral load goes here.
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Only vertical load goes into
the surrounding structure.
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And what that means is that
the timber can be as light
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as we can possibly make it,
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because we're not imposing
extraneous forces
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from the earth on it.
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Narrator: Artists' impressions
and models can only go so far.
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As the actual building emerged
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the project architect, on site
every two weeks,
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began to wonder how it would
be received
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by the residents of Speyside.
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Toby Jeavons: I think the local
community liked it.
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It was clearly a building
of some quality
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and I think everybody
appreciated that
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and they knew what that would do
to the local economy,
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the local tourism, the local
workforce opportunities.
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So, I think it very positively
received.
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And the... the sympathetic way
in which it was a response
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to the landscape,
I think was very well received.
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Both at the formal, public
consultation that happened
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as part of the planning process
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and then just anecdotally during
the course of construction.
495
00:28:12,931 --> 00:28:15,655
I think they're very
appreciative of the fact
496
00:28:15,793 --> 00:28:22,310
that it wasn't a... a sort of
arrogant, bombastic gesture.
497
00:28:22,448 --> 00:28:24,310
Graham Hutcheon: So I had
responsibility for delivering
498
00:28:24,448 --> 00:28:25,551
the project.
499
00:28:25,689 --> 00:28:27,310
But the day to day management
was my team.
500
00:28:27,448 --> 00:28:29,482
And I think they had some
rocky roads.
501
00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:32,068
And Graham warned us early doors
502
00:28:32,206 --> 00:28:34,655
that we would have some
interesting challenges
503
00:28:34,793 --> 00:28:37,137
along the way, whether it's
materials selection
504
00:28:37,275 --> 00:28:41,344
or budget or one or two serious
decisions we had to make
505
00:28:41,482 --> 00:28:42,862
with the visitor centre.
506
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,068
But we got through it,
507
00:28:44,206 --> 00:28:45,758
and I think the relationship was
very, very good.
508
00:28:45,896 --> 00:28:47,965
The relationship with
the architect was very good,
509
00:28:48,103 --> 00:28:50,448
as was the relationship with
the construction company,
510
00:28:50,586 --> 00:28:52,655
and the process organisations
we used.
511
00:28:52,793 --> 00:28:55,689
And we had to work
in a collaborative way
512
00:28:55,827 --> 00:28:56,896
to deliver what we delivered.
513
00:29:00,344 --> 00:29:02,379
Narrator: When Rogers, Stirk,
Harbour and partners
514
00:29:02,517 --> 00:29:05,000
won the competition to design
this distillery,
515
00:29:05,137 --> 00:29:08,068
Macallan's idea was that there
would be a visitor centre
516
00:29:08,206 --> 00:29:11,275
alongside, but separate.
517
00:29:11,413 --> 00:29:13,793
Graham Stirk and his team
thought it should, instead,
518
00:29:13,931 --> 00:29:15,551
be part of the main building.
519
00:29:15,689 --> 00:29:18,310
But, the idea of having
the public in a space,
520
00:29:18,448 --> 00:29:20,689
which was also occupied
by millions of litres
521
00:29:20,827 --> 00:29:22,103
of flammable alcohol
522
00:29:22,241 --> 00:29:25,413
would give Health and
Safety Officers nightmares.
523
00:29:25,551 --> 00:29:27,034
Graham Stirk: The process
of achieving that
524
00:29:27,172 --> 00:29:28,827
was pretty difficult.
525
00:29:31,241 --> 00:29:33,241
But if you didn't have
the naivete
526
00:29:33,379 --> 00:29:37,482
of trying to make that
special... experience
527
00:29:37,620 --> 00:29:41,241
of being able to walk in
the main still house
528
00:29:41,379 --> 00:29:47,655
and see all of this... this...
oh, iceberg of pot stuff,
529
00:29:47,793 --> 00:29:49,965
because mostly when you see
whiskey, you see stills.
530
00:29:50,103 --> 00:29:54,586
You don't see all this massive
other vessels
531
00:29:54,724 --> 00:29:56,379
that are vital in the process.
532
00:29:56,517 --> 00:30:00,379
For us, it's about... there's
a word they used,
533
00:30:00,517 --> 00:30:06,172
which is integrity, and what you
are seeing - I suppose it is.
534
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:08,655
It's about the integrity
of the experience.
535
00:30:12,206 --> 00:30:13,793
Toby Jeavons: Locating
the visitor experience
536
00:30:13,931 --> 00:30:15,758
hard up against
the production facility
537
00:30:15,896 --> 00:30:18,862
meant that we needed
a separating wall.
538
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,206
It was always very important
539
00:30:20,344 --> 00:30:22,655
that you could see from
the visitor experience,
540
00:30:22,793 --> 00:30:26,103
and we knew that the end
of the visitor experience
541
00:30:26,241 --> 00:30:30,724
is likely to be your opportunity
to taste the product,
542
00:30:30,862 --> 00:30:35,068
is going to be the bar, and
a dwelling... a dwelling space.
543
00:30:35,206 --> 00:30:37,931
And so from this location,
it was always very important
544
00:30:38,068 --> 00:30:40,000
you could look back into
the production facility
545
00:30:40,137 --> 00:30:41,931
see all of the component parts,
546
00:30:42,068 --> 00:30:43,413
and also from the lower level,
547
00:30:43,551 --> 00:30:45,655
where you've made your way into
the visitor experience,
548
00:30:45,793 --> 00:30:49,103
that again, you've got this full
ten metre tall glass wall
549
00:30:49,241 --> 00:30:51,862
that allows you to see all
of the production.
550
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000
Because some visitors may not
actually then choose
551
00:30:54,137 --> 00:30:55,241
to do the tour.
552
00:30:55,379 --> 00:30:56,827
So, they can be in the visitor
experience,
553
00:30:56,965 --> 00:31:00,310
which is free for all to enter
and still see this.
554
00:31:00,448 --> 00:31:04,827
To achieve a two hour firewall
to this scale in glazing
555
00:31:04,965 --> 00:31:06,241
was quite a challenge.
556
00:31:06,379 --> 00:31:08,379
And after looking at a number
of options,
557
00:31:08,517 --> 00:31:12,275
we decided that a sprinkler
based, drencher system
558
00:31:12,413 --> 00:31:15,275
would be the most appropriate
way to deal with this,
559
00:31:15,413 --> 00:31:16,793
whilst keeping the glazing
as clear
560
00:31:16,931 --> 00:31:19,620
and as transparent
as possible.
561
00:31:19,758 --> 00:31:22,793
[striking ensemble music]
562
00:31:25,448 --> 00:31:28,586
Narrator: Something like this
had never been done before.
563
00:31:28,724 --> 00:31:31,068
Testing a prototype of
the glass firewall alone
564
00:31:31,206 --> 00:31:33,586
cost half a million pounds.
565
00:31:34,448 --> 00:31:35,827
But it was worth it.
566
00:31:35,965 --> 00:31:39,517
The distillery and the visitor
centre became one.
567
00:31:41,862 --> 00:31:44,896
[emotive piano ensemble music]
568
00:32:03,655 --> 00:32:05,310
Graham Hutcheon: You've got
to put yourself
569
00:32:05,448 --> 00:32:07,517
in the architect's head,
I guess.
570
00:32:07,655 --> 00:32:09,413
I mean, he came up, he knew
the views,
571
00:32:09,551 --> 00:32:11,172
he knew the views to the Ben,
572
00:32:11,310 --> 00:32:13,551
the views to the Spey, the views
along the building,
573
00:32:13,689 --> 00:32:15,000
before it was built.
574
00:32:15,137 --> 00:32:17,862
So, he had the concept
15 metres up
575
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,172
from the ground to see what it's
going to look like,
576
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:22,068
how it's going to lie,
how it fits,
577
00:32:22,206 --> 00:32:23,827
the view right down
the building.
578
00:32:23,965 --> 00:32:26,000
And that's their expertise,
I guess.
579
00:32:26,137 --> 00:32:27,344
They have a vision
580
00:32:27,482 --> 00:32:29,827
and an ability to turn that
vision into reality,
581
00:32:29,965 --> 00:32:32,344
and it's really very,
very interesting
582
00:32:32,482 --> 00:32:34,137
to see it come out for real.
583
00:32:35,172 --> 00:32:38,172
[orchestral crescendo]
584
00:32:45,827 --> 00:32:48,862
[emotive orchestral music]
585
00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:01,241
Narrator: The Macallan
Distillery on Speyside
586
00:33:01,379 --> 00:33:03,379
has been open for less
than a year,
587
00:33:03,517 --> 00:33:06,310
yet it looks almost untouched.
588
00:33:09,241 --> 00:33:12,724
It's a huge task keeping all
this glass and steel
589
00:33:12,862 --> 00:33:14,724
free from smear and stains,
590
00:33:14,862 --> 00:33:16,758
keeping the visitor-centre
fresh,
591
00:33:16,896 --> 00:33:18,965
ordering the tables and chairs
592
00:33:19,103 --> 00:33:20,965
with such architectural
precision
593
00:33:21,103 --> 00:33:24,241
that they appear part of
Graham Stirk's design.
594
00:33:24,379 --> 00:33:27,379
[whimsical orchestral music]
595
00:33:38,586 --> 00:33:40,586
There is regimentation
everywhere.
596
00:33:41,827 --> 00:33:43,103
The bottles on the whisky wall,
597
00:33:43,241 --> 00:33:45,896
representing almost 200 years
of distilling
598
00:33:46,034 --> 00:33:47,379
are lit by invisible lights,
599
00:33:47,517 --> 00:33:51,103
part of a multi-million pound
illumination scheme.
600
00:33:54,896 --> 00:33:58,379
The copper stills, made by
a firm just down the road
601
00:33:58,517 --> 00:34:01,103
march together in absolute
alignment,
602
00:34:01,241 --> 00:34:02,655
glowing in the morning light,
603
00:34:02,793 --> 00:34:05,965
waiting for the first
of the day's visitors.
604
00:34:09,448 --> 00:34:11,586
They will come not just
to taste,
605
00:34:11,724 --> 00:34:15,137
but to see this new temple to
the art of whisky production.
606
00:34:16,620 --> 00:34:18,827
And they will see it through
the eyes of an architect
607
00:34:18,965 --> 00:34:21,517
who worked on the Lloyds
building all those years ago,
608
00:34:21,655 --> 00:34:24,344
and who still believes
on showing visitors
609
00:34:24,482 --> 00:34:26,068
how a building works.
610
00:34:28,862 --> 00:34:29,896
Graham Stirk: To some extent,
611
00:34:30,034 --> 00:34:33,724
we really did say a number
of times,
612
00:34:33,862 --> 00:34:35,103
we'll make it
613
00:34:35,241 --> 00:34:38,103
the most beautifully coordinated
distillery on earth.
614
00:34:38,241 --> 00:34:41,172
And obviously we can't do
that alone.
615
00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:43,827
We have to hope it's...
you know,
616
00:34:43,965 --> 00:34:45,689
specialists who understand this,
617
00:34:45,827 --> 00:34:48,275
but they set up a fantastic
relationship
618
00:34:48,413 --> 00:34:52,000
with our team to be able to do
what is essentially
619
00:34:52,137 --> 00:34:55,000
this arranged around a circle
and the pipes.
620
00:34:55,137 --> 00:34:57,517
If you look down there,
it's all symmetrical.
621
00:34:57,655 --> 00:34:58,862
And the whole point is,
622
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,275
every part of it you can
actually see the complexity,
623
00:35:02,413 --> 00:35:06,724
which has been treated with
the same amount of care.
624
00:35:06,862 --> 00:35:08,758
And it's the care
of craftsmanship.
625
00:35:09,689 --> 00:35:10,862
And the care of craftsmanship
626
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,724
it's not...
it's just a big statement
627
00:35:12,862 --> 00:35:15,586
and then it's all through there
and we'll show you a few stills.
628
00:35:16,275 --> 00:35:17,655
It's everything.
629
00:35:17,793 --> 00:35:22,413
Everything is visible, and it's
not using fancy materials.
630
00:35:22,551 --> 00:35:26,689
It's just beautifully,
carefully coordinated.
631
00:35:26,827 --> 00:35:31,413
What do modern buildings bring
beyond supergraphic shapes?
632
00:35:31,551 --> 00:35:35,827
How can you describe what...
how they function,
633
00:35:35,965 --> 00:35:37,896
how they work, and celebrate it
634
00:35:38,034 --> 00:35:41,586
and make it into a beautiful,
beautiful pieces
635
00:35:41,724 --> 00:35:43,793
that are given different scales
636
00:35:43,931 --> 00:35:49,000
and hierarchies within the
overall complexity of the image?
637
00:35:49,137 --> 00:35:52,137
[fervent orchestral music]
638
00:36:16,275 --> 00:36:17,413
Narrator: Graham Stirk wanted
639
00:36:17,551 --> 00:36:21,310
to show all parts of the process
of making whisky
640
00:36:21,448 --> 00:36:24,275
but, from his first design,
one was missing,
641
00:36:24,413 --> 00:36:27,241
simply because it was not part
of the original brief.
642
00:36:29,379 --> 00:36:32,896
On this historic site sits
thousands of barrels of whisky
643
00:36:33,034 --> 00:36:35,241
quietly ageing in casks
644
00:36:35,379 --> 00:36:37,551
that have previously been used
to mature sherry
645
00:36:37,689 --> 00:36:40,586
in the bodegas of
Jerez de la Frontera.
646
00:36:40,724 --> 00:36:43,241
But this vital element was not
to be shown
647
00:36:43,379 --> 00:36:45,655
in the new building, until
the design was altered
648
00:36:45,793 --> 00:36:50,620
to include a cave privée, a sort
of 'holy of holies'
649
00:36:50,758 --> 00:36:52,827
into which small groups
are escorted
650
00:36:52,965 --> 00:36:56,206
to pay homage to the
'water of life'.
651
00:36:57,275 --> 00:37:00,344
[soulful piano]
652
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,724
Graham Hutcheon: The cave privée
planned bar
653
00:37:03,862 --> 00:37:07,620
was on a plain bit of paper,
he just hand drew it.
654
00:37:07,758 --> 00:37:09,931
And many of his concepts were
hand drawn.
655
00:37:10,068 --> 00:37:11,413
And then they produced a model,
656
00:37:11,551 --> 00:37:13,034
obviously, when they were
further down the process.
657
00:37:13,172 --> 00:37:15,448
And all these hand drawings,
658
00:37:15,586 --> 00:37:17,689
to scale, I don't know how
he does it,
659
00:37:17,827 --> 00:37:18,965
became a reality.
660
00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:22,931
Graham Stirk: The scaling
of these
661
00:37:23,068 --> 00:37:28,379
start to reflect some of the
incredible ingenuity
662
00:37:28,517 --> 00:37:32,137
of all of those groups
of engineers, you know,
663
00:37:32,275 --> 00:37:36,206
everyone involved, how one can
create something
664
00:37:36,344 --> 00:37:41,724
that starts to say something
beyond pure art.
665
00:37:45,172 --> 00:37:48,172
[soulful piano music]
666
00:37:50,379 --> 00:37:53,000
Graham Hutcheon: We had our...
A number of openings
667
00:37:53,137 --> 00:37:56,965
over a week, and we brought some
clients and some guests,
668
00:37:57,103 --> 00:37:59,206
and we had this wow factor.
669
00:38:03,620 --> 00:38:07,793
Sitting in the project it was
relief more than anything else,
670
00:38:07,931 --> 00:38:09,620
that it was finally done.
671
00:38:09,758 --> 00:38:11,172
We've still got snagging to do,
672
00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:13,172
we know the project's
still to go on.
673
00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:16,379
But to everybody else,
that was the day,
674
00:38:16,517 --> 00:38:18,172
and I think it was
a relief for me.
675
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:19,517
Certainly for me and my team.
676
00:38:20,931 --> 00:38:24,448
[emotive piano ensemble music]
677
00:38:24,586 --> 00:38:26,000
Now, we're starting to enjoy it
678
00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:29,068
because we're getting people
coming to see what we've done,
679
00:38:29,206 --> 00:38:31,862
and most are impressed,
I believe.
680
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,827
And we think we've done a pretty
good job at the end of the day.
681
00:38:35,965 --> 00:38:39,000
[striking piano music]
682
00:38:43,931 --> 00:38:46,275
The really scary thing is once
you've built it,
683
00:38:46,413 --> 00:38:49,103
will it produce the spirit you
wanted it to produce?
684
00:38:49,241 --> 00:38:50,689
And that's the real secret.
685
00:38:53,137 --> 00:38:56,137
[serenading classical piano]
686
00:39:08,517 --> 00:39:13,931
Graham Stirk: As it's evolved,
I... it's... it's gone beyond
687
00:39:14,068 --> 00:39:16,413
what I imagined,
688
00:39:16,551 --> 00:39:21,620
and sometimes... sometimes,
you know,
689
00:39:21,758 --> 00:39:23,275
I've always been involved
690
00:39:23,413 --> 00:39:26,344
but not at the same intensity
as the first few years.
691
00:39:26,482 --> 00:39:30,620
But it's interesting, the points
of principle hang clear,
692
00:39:30,758 --> 00:39:34,965
but then each piece then
finds a more...
693
00:39:35,103 --> 00:39:38,448
..a more elegant way of
manifesting itself
694
00:39:38,586 --> 00:39:40,793
from those first aspirations.
695
00:39:42,482 --> 00:39:46,689
People don't really teach you
to do big, urban buildings.
696
00:39:46,827 --> 00:39:50,551
You might do a few but
the process of learning,
697
00:39:50,689 --> 00:39:53,896
to go from what you're
exploring as a student
698
00:39:54,034 --> 00:39:56,275
to then suddenly:
699
00:39:57,862 --> 00:40:00,551
You're not handed it. It's like,
well, have a go.
700
00:40:00,689 --> 00:40:02,551
You have to evolve that.
701
00:40:02,689 --> 00:40:05,068
But there's something about
Macallan for me, personally,
702
00:40:05,206 --> 00:40:06,827
that took me back to a period
703
00:40:06,965 --> 00:40:12,482
where actually it made you want
to go into... into architecture.
704
00:40:12,620 --> 00:40:15,793
It was the primary reasons why
you want to go into it.
705
00:40:18,482 --> 00:40:23,034
I suppose everyone secretly
wants to be, you know,
706
00:40:23,172 --> 00:40:25,448
involved in something that
people
707
00:40:25,586 --> 00:40:31,103
beyond your own field might find
fantastic, attractive, exciting.
708
00:40:31,241 --> 00:40:34,137
And that's... it's... you don't
always get that.
709
00:40:37,275 --> 00:40:38,620
We're incredibly proud of it.
710
00:40:38,758 --> 00:40:41,586
Absolutely thrilled to
pieces with it.
711
00:40:43,068 --> 00:40:46,068
[soulful piano music]
712
00:42:15,206 --> 00:42:16,758
Narrator: Next time...
713
00:42:18,758 --> 00:42:21,344
In Washington, the scene
of the biggest protest
714
00:42:21,482 --> 00:42:23,724
in the history of America's
civil rights movement,
715
00:42:23,862 --> 00:42:26,068
the British architect
Sir David Adjaye
716
00:42:26,206 --> 00:42:29,344
has designed a museum
for the ages.
717
00:42:29,482 --> 00:42:32,000
It documents the struggle by
African-Americans
718
00:42:32,137 --> 00:42:33,793
to be "free at last".
719
00:42:35,379 --> 00:42:39,068
This is a very important piece
of democratic theatre
720
00:42:39,206 --> 00:42:41,931
and the African-American
community felt that
721
00:42:42,068 --> 00:42:44,482
they should be represented,
their narrative about their
722
00:42:44,620 --> 00:42:47,551
contribution to what America is
needed to be represented.
723
00:42:52,206 --> 00:42:55,000
I made a conscious decision that
the building was not going to be
724
00:42:55,137 --> 00:42:56,517
a vessel just to put things in.
725
00:42:56,655 --> 00:42:58,827
It wasn't going to be just
a sort of piece of architecture
726
00:42:58,965 --> 00:43:02,172
that would have something
put in it that had a disconnect.
727
00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:04,068
It felt that the story
was so prescient
728
00:43:04,206 --> 00:43:07,275
that the building had to also be
part of the narrative.
729
00:43:07,413 --> 00:43:09,103
It had to be part of the story.
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