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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:53,850 --> 00:00:56,187 My name is Joy White. I'm here to see Ann Pettway. 2 00:00:56,252 --> 00:00:58,322 Does she know you're coming? 3 00:00:58,587 --> 00:01:00,023 No. 4 00:01:00,089 --> 00:01:03,929 Park over there, I'll put you through security. 5 00:01:19,073 --> 00:01:21,343 I was on my way to school and my water broke. 6 00:01:21,608 --> 00:01:22,944 We almost didn't make it. 7 00:01:23,010 --> 00:01:24,278 What's your name, honey? 8 00:01:24,345 --> 00:01:26,148 Joy. Joy White. 9 00:01:26,213 --> 00:01:28,850 - And, Joy, how old are you? - She's 16. 10 00:01:28,915 --> 00:01:30,752 And this is your first pregnancy? 11 00:01:30,817 --> 00:01:31,885 Yes! 12 00:01:31,952 --> 00:01:33,220 - Name? - Ann Pettway. 13 00:01:33,286 --> 00:01:35,223 You want to tell me what happened, Ann? 14 00:01:35,288 --> 00:01:37,158 I started having pains, so I came here. 15 00:01:37,223 --> 00:01:39,360 - Is this your first pregnancy? - No! 16 00:01:39,625 --> 00:01:41,295 Is there anybody you want us to call? 17 00:01:41,361 --> 00:01:43,097 - No. No! No! - A family member? 18 00:01:46,866 --> 00:01:48,735 Scalpel. 19 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,803 Push! 20 00:01:50,869 --> 00:01:52,939 - Push, now--come on! - You're almost there! 21 00:01:53,004 --> 00:01:55,308 Scissors... 22 00:01:55,373 --> 00:01:57,678 Forceps... 23 00:01:57,742 --> 00:01:58,877 and suction, please. 24 00:01:58,943 --> 00:02:02,082 Big push! 25 00:02:15,725 --> 00:02:18,062 - I told you it was a girl. - But I was sure! 26 00:02:18,127 --> 00:02:20,231 Your mom owes me a chocolate cake now. 27 00:02:23,299 --> 00:02:27,072 - I always wanted a baby girl. - Yeah? 28 00:02:27,136 --> 00:02:30,675 Don't nobody love a guy like his baby girl. 29 00:02:30,739 --> 00:02:35,347 Isn't she beautiful? 30 00:02:35,410 --> 00:02:38,983 She looks just like you. 31 00:02:39,046 --> 00:02:41,418 She's got your eyes. 32 00:02:41,682 --> 00:02:42,984 What are we gonna call her? 33 00:02:43,050 --> 00:02:45,087 I am not naming her after your mom. 34 00:02:45,152 --> 00:02:47,857 I guess Carl Jr out of the question. 35 00:02:47,922 --> 00:02:50,426 Who says? 36 00:02:55,294 --> 00:02:58,400 Carlina Renae White. 37 00:02:58,464 --> 00:03:00,835 Daddy's little girl. 38 00:03:02,968 --> 00:03:04,805 We love you. 39 00:03:07,372 --> 00:03:09,409 No! I did everything right. 40 00:03:09,474 --> 00:03:11,344 Everything right! 41 00:03:11,409 --> 00:03:14,248 I didn't drink--I didn't smoke! 42 00:03:14,312 --> 00:03:17,116 - Why did this happen again? - The blood work shows 43 00:03:17,181 --> 00:03:19,184 some abnormalities with your hormone levels. 44 00:03:19,249 --> 00:03:21,354 What?! I don't even know what you sayin'! 45 00:03:21,418 --> 00:03:24,757 It is unlikely that you could sustain a full-term pregnancy. 46 00:03:24,821 --> 00:03:26,791 Mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. I don't even believe you. 47 00:03:26,857 --> 00:03:28,493 Stop lying! Stop lying! - Nurse! 48 00:03:28,758 --> 00:03:30,429 Stop lying-- what you do with my baby?! 49 00:03:30,494 --> 00:03:32,764 Nurse! You need to calm down. 50 00:03:32,829 --> 00:03:35,233 What'd you do with my baby-- I'll find her myself! 51 00:03:35,298 --> 00:03:37,235 I'll find her myself! Get some Ativan! 52 00:03:37,300 --> 00:03:40,305 - I want to know where it is! - Hold her down! 53 00:03:40,370 --> 00:03:42,440 What did you do with my baby?! 54 00:03:42,505 --> 00:03:46,411 This is my grandbaby, 55 00:03:46,475 --> 00:03:48,980 Carlina Renae White. 56 00:03:49,044 --> 00:03:50,980 Oh, precious. 57 00:03:51,045 --> 00:03:53,850 Why she's named after her father instead of me, I don't know, 58 00:03:53,915 --> 00:03:56,520 but the Lord works in mysterious ways. 59 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,891 Can we bow our heads? 60 00:04:01,956 --> 00:04:05,228 Heavenly Father, we'd like to thank you 61 00:04:05,292 --> 00:04:08,331 for bringing this healthy little girl into our family. 62 00:04:08,395 --> 00:04:12,402 May she always know how it feels to be loved. 63 00:04:12,465 --> 00:04:13,968 Amen. - Amen. 64 00:04:14,034 --> 00:04:16,772 - Amen. - Amen! 65 00:04:16,836 --> 00:04:19,040 What's that Carlina-- I think she said, "Let's eat!" 66 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:22,944 Let's eat. 67 00:04:23,008 --> 00:04:25,346 She's gorgeous. 68 00:04:25,411 --> 00:04:27,848 Welcome home, sweetie pie. 69 00:04:27,913 --> 00:04:29,816 How is she? 70 00:04:29,881 --> 00:04:33,020 She hasn't eaten in days--she just lays there. 71 00:04:33,084 --> 00:04:35,956 We need the bed. 72 00:04:36,020 --> 00:04:37,923 Should we try the psych ward? 73 00:04:37,989 --> 00:04:40,560 Nah, there's no beds there, either. 74 00:04:44,795 --> 00:04:47,901 Miss Pettway... 75 00:04:47,965 --> 00:04:49,367 Your vitals look good. 76 00:04:49,433 --> 00:04:52,438 We can have you out of here this afternoon. 77 00:04:52,502 --> 00:04:54,505 How's that sound? 78 00:05:02,945 --> 00:05:05,417 Have you thought of other alternatives? 79 00:05:05,481 --> 00:05:08,185 You can foster a child, you can adopt a baby... 80 00:05:08,250 --> 00:05:12,224 My wife and I adopted just last year. 81 00:05:12,287 --> 00:05:16,093 Nobody's gonna give me no baby. 82 00:05:49,087 --> 00:05:50,557 # All night # 83 00:05:50,622 --> 00:05:52,993 # All day # 84 00:05:53,057 --> 00:05:57,064 # Angels watching over me, my Lord # 85 00:05:57,128 --> 00:05:59,933 # All night # 86 00:05:59,998 --> 00:06:02,235 # All day # 87 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:06,341 # Angels watching over me # # 88 00:06:12,608 --> 00:06:15,915 Are you ready? 89 00:06:15,978 --> 00:06:17,448 To try on shoes? 90 00:06:17,514 --> 00:06:20,987 No, you know--for the baby. 91 00:06:21,050 --> 00:06:24,356 Because you look like you're about ready to drop. 92 00:06:24,419 --> 00:06:28,026 You're carrying it high... like it's a girl. 93 00:06:28,090 --> 00:06:30,561 Is this your first? 94 00:06:30,625 --> 00:06:32,428 I had one last year. 95 00:06:32,494 --> 00:06:34,931 You won't sleep, but you'll love it. 96 00:06:34,996 --> 00:06:36,431 You'll see. 97 00:06:36,497 --> 00:06:38,434 Now how do those feel? 98 00:06:43,037 --> 00:06:45,542 Ma'am? 99 00:06:45,606 --> 00:06:49,179 I think they're kinda tight-- can I get a size up? 100 00:06:49,243 --> 00:06:51,413 I'll go check. 101 00:07:06,658 --> 00:07:09,363 Good morning, Doctor. 102 00:07:09,427 --> 00:07:12,099 Her history? 103 00:07:12,163 --> 00:07:14,101 The patient's had three miscarriages, 104 00:07:14,165 --> 00:07:15,501 and according to her blood work, 105 00:07:15,567 --> 00:07:18,038 it appears her body is too weak to have a child. 106 00:07:18,102 --> 00:07:21,308 But, like I told her, there's a cure for everything 107 00:07:21,372 --> 00:07:24,444 if you're willing to take matters in your own hands. 108 00:07:26,310 --> 00:07:27,979 Yes, Doctor? 109 00:07:35,385 --> 00:07:37,322 I knew you'd have a solution. 110 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,664 I just took it again--it's 104! 111 00:07:47,730 --> 00:07:50,134 I'm leaving right now. 112 00:07:50,198 --> 00:07:53,705 No, Carl--tell your boss you're leaving now. 113 00:07:53,968 --> 00:07:56,305 Meet me at the hospital? 114 00:07:56,370 --> 00:07:57,305 Okay, bye. 115 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,180 # All night, all day # 116 00:08:03,244 --> 00:08:07,184 # Angels watching over me, my Lord # 117 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:12,187 # All night, all day # 118 00:08:12,252 --> 00:08:16,126 # Angels watching over me, my Lord # 119 00:08:16,189 --> 00:08:17,724 Uh, the children's ward-- where is it? 120 00:08:17,990 --> 00:08:21,062 - # All night, all day # - Thanks. 121 00:08:21,127 --> 00:08:24,166 # Angels watching over me # # 122 00:08:29,201 --> 00:08:31,405 I never should have took her to the park. 123 00:08:31,470 --> 00:08:33,674 It was too soon. - It's not your fault. 124 00:08:33,738 --> 00:08:37,212 No, no--maybe I'm not ready to take care of a child. 125 00:08:37,275 --> 00:08:39,679 I'm just-- I'm just too tired. 126 00:08:39,743 --> 00:08:42,014 You are a great mother. 127 00:08:43,414 --> 00:08:46,720 It's gonna be fine, right? 128 00:08:46,784 --> 00:08:50,657 Our baby is gonna be fine. 129 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,757 Oh, girl, yeah! 130 00:08:53,022 --> 00:08:54,558 I see this all the time. 131 00:08:54,624 --> 00:08:56,561 Babies bounce back faster than us. 132 00:08:56,626 --> 00:09:00,165 See? 133 00:09:02,731 --> 00:09:04,434 What's your baby's name? 134 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:07,071 Carlina. 135 00:09:07,135 --> 00:09:08,671 - Your name Carl, right? - Yeah. 136 00:09:08,737 --> 00:09:11,709 That's cute--I like that. 137 00:09:11,773 --> 00:09:15,547 Okay, we're giving her antibiotics now, 138 00:09:15,610 --> 00:09:18,349 and the fever should break by morning. 139 00:09:18,413 --> 00:09:20,583 Did you want to stay the night with her? 140 00:09:20,648 --> 00:09:22,551 I may have to get back to work. 141 00:09:22,617 --> 00:09:24,453 I'll make a call. - Okay. 142 00:09:24,518 --> 00:09:27,156 Okay. 143 00:09:27,221 --> 00:09:31,295 You're gonna be okay. 144 00:09:33,326 --> 00:09:37,333 ...on hold, line two--on hold, line two. 145 00:09:37,397 --> 00:09:39,200 - Hey. 146 00:09:39,265 --> 00:09:41,702 - Hey. - Hey. 147 00:09:41,767 --> 00:09:44,639 - What's your name? - It's Joy. 148 00:09:44,703 --> 00:09:47,341 I just want to tell you I overheard you earlier, 149 00:09:47,406 --> 00:09:49,777 and you're a good mother, Joy. - You think so? 150 00:09:49,842 --> 00:09:53,281 - Yeah, girl, I can see it. - Thank you, Miss... 151 00:09:53,345 --> 00:09:55,549 - You know what else I can see? - What's that? 152 00:09:55,614 --> 00:09:58,085 - You tired! - I am. 153 00:09:58,149 --> 00:10:00,553 The baby keeps me up. - Oh, she keep you up, right? 154 00:10:00,618 --> 00:10:03,690 The baby keeps me up. 155 00:10:03,754 --> 00:10:07,294 Why don't you go home and rest for a few hours? 156 00:10:07,358 --> 00:10:08,727 I should stay here. 157 00:10:08,792 --> 00:10:11,330 Girl, don't be silly--for what? 158 00:10:11,395 --> 00:10:13,699 All you're gonna be doin' is sittin' round here waitin'. 159 00:10:13,764 --> 00:10:16,169 We got your number--if anything happen, we'll call you. 160 00:10:16,233 --> 00:10:18,438 I don't want to leave her here alone. 161 00:10:18,502 --> 00:10:20,839 Joy, the baby don't cry for you. 162 00:10:21,104 --> 00:10:23,541 You cry for the baby. 163 00:10:23,606 --> 00:10:25,877 I tell you what-- I tell you what. 164 00:10:26,143 --> 00:10:28,747 I'll watch her myself. 165 00:10:28,811 --> 00:10:30,314 Okay. 166 00:10:30,380 --> 00:10:32,584 Maybe a quick shower, just... 167 00:10:32,649 --> 00:10:34,719 I'll just go home and pick up a few things. 168 00:10:34,784 --> 00:10:38,323 - I got you, I got it-- I tell you, I got it. 169 00:10:38,387 --> 00:10:39,889 I gotta get back to work. 170 00:10:40,156 --> 00:10:42,260 Can you run me home on your way back? 171 00:10:42,324 --> 00:10:45,530 Let's go. 172 00:10:45,594 --> 00:10:47,229 I'll be back soon. 173 00:10:47,295 --> 00:10:48,865 Please look out for my baby. 174 00:10:49,130 --> 00:10:50,398 I got you--I got you. 175 00:10:50,465 --> 00:10:52,535 Go on... go. - Okay. 176 00:10:54,302 --> 00:10:56,506 ...to radiology, please. 177 00:10:56,571 --> 00:10:58,741 ...to radiology. 178 00:10:58,806 --> 00:11:00,675 # Watchin' over me # 179 00:11:00,741 --> 00:11:03,745 # All day # 180 00:11:03,810 --> 00:11:06,182 # All night # 181 00:11:06,246 --> 00:11:09,317 # Angels watchin' over me # 182 00:11:44,681 --> 00:11:46,751 Oh! 183 00:11:46,816 --> 00:11:49,288 Oh no! 184 00:11:49,352 --> 00:11:53,226 # All day, all night # 185 00:11:53,289 --> 00:11:57,563 Ange-- 186 00:12:08,503 --> 00:12:10,840 I haven't seen you around before. 187 00:12:10,905 --> 00:12:14,211 - I just started. - That explains it. 188 00:12:14,275 --> 00:12:15,844 The only way to survive the late shift 189 00:12:15,909 --> 00:12:18,981 is by making sure you get plenty of sleep on your day off. 190 00:12:19,247 --> 00:12:21,451 I'll keep that in mind, thank you. 191 00:12:26,953 --> 00:12:29,591 Have a nice night. 192 00:12:33,325 --> 00:12:37,499 Just keep the meter running--I'll be right back. 193 00:12:51,776 --> 00:12:54,013 It's okay! 194 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:55,714 It's okay! 195 00:12:55,780 --> 00:12:57,783 It's okay. 196 00:12:57,848 --> 00:13:01,487 I got you-- I got you now. 197 00:13:01,551 --> 00:13:03,488 I got you. 198 00:13:14,363 --> 00:13:16,867 Hello? 199 00:13:16,932 --> 00:13:21,040 Yes, this is Carlina White's mother. 200 00:13:21,303 --> 00:13:24,677 No, I left her at the hospital. 201 00:13:24,740 --> 00:13:29,281 Wh-What's wrong? 202 00:13:29,344 --> 00:13:30,746 Missing?! 203 00:13:30,812 --> 00:13:32,782 What do you mean she's missing? 204 00:13:32,847 --> 00:13:35,719 What the hell happened?! 205 00:13:37,618 --> 00:13:38,988 Detective Dalton, N.Y.P.D. 206 00:13:39,053 --> 00:13:41,023 Between 2:30 and 3:30 a.m. 207 00:13:41,288 --> 00:13:43,592 medical personnel, or someone posing as medical personnel, 208 00:13:43,657 --> 00:13:44,959 removed your daughter from the ward. 209 00:13:45,024 --> 00:13:46,394 Will she hurt my baby? 210 00:13:46,460 --> 00:13:47,995 I can't answer that, Miss White. 211 00:13:48,061 --> 00:13:50,298 Security cameras--there's gotta be something on those. 212 00:13:50,363 --> 00:13:52,734 Unfortunately, cameras aren't working today. 213 00:13:52,798 --> 00:13:54,033 Fingerprints! 214 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:56,370 We can only match them if the perpetrator 215 00:13:56,435 --> 00:13:58,372 has committed a crime in New York. 216 00:13:58,437 --> 00:14:00,040 We believe the kidnapper worked at the hospital 217 00:14:00,305 --> 00:14:01,808 or pretended to work at the hospital, 218 00:14:01,874 --> 00:14:04,445 so we're scouring files. - How long is that gonna take? 219 00:14:04,509 --> 00:14:05,844 - I can't answer that, Miss White. 220 00:14:05,910 --> 00:14:07,580 Well, maybe you can answer this. 221 00:14:07,646 --> 00:14:12,321 How are you gonna find my baby? 222 00:14:12,383 --> 00:14:14,053 Why don't you tell us what you know. 223 00:14:14,318 --> 00:14:15,787 Did you speak to anyone privately? 224 00:14:15,853 --> 00:14:17,890 - No. - Yes, that nurse, remember? 225 00:14:17,954 --> 00:14:20,794 - Yeah, she told me, "The baby don't cry for you. 226 00:14:20,858 --> 00:14:24,497 "You cry for the baby." 227 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,665 That lady was trying to get me to leave! 228 00:14:26,729 --> 00:14:29,468 - Did you get her name? - She wasn't wearing a tag. 229 00:14:29,532 --> 00:14:31,969 - Can you describe her? - She was black-- 230 00:14:32,034 --> 00:14:34,338 - Around my complexion-- - O-older-- 231 00:14:34,403 --> 00:14:35,873 - --heavy-set... 232 00:14:35,938 --> 00:14:39,344 Like she just had a baby... 233 00:14:39,408 --> 00:14:41,345 Or just lost one. 234 00:15:02,562 --> 00:15:05,501 We have reason to believe that this woman is involved 235 00:15:05,565 --> 00:15:07,635 in the kidnapping of Carlina White. 236 00:15:07,701 --> 00:15:10,540 The city of New York has posted a 10,000 reward 237 00:15:10,603 --> 00:15:12,674 for any tip leading to the baby's return. 238 00:15:12,739 --> 00:15:15,043 This is the first time in the history of this city 239 00:15:15,107 --> 00:15:17,612 that a child's been taken from the hospital. 240 00:15:17,676 --> 00:15:19,646 Sir, another comment? 241 00:15:21,513 --> 00:15:23,149 I want my baby back. 242 00:15:23,415 --> 00:15:24,985 She didn't have to do that to me. 243 00:15:25,050 --> 00:15:27,754 I was carrying her for nine months. 244 00:15:27,819 --> 00:15:30,691 She didn't have to take her from me. 245 00:15:34,492 --> 00:15:36,762 I think the lady's just scared 246 00:15:36,828 --> 00:15:39,666 because she thinks we're gonna press charges, 247 00:15:39,730 --> 00:15:41,066 but I just want to tell her, 248 00:15:41,131 --> 00:15:43,503 "I won't press charges against you. 249 00:15:43,567 --> 00:15:45,604 Just bring our daughter back." 250 00:15:48,504 --> 00:15:52,411 - Ohh, hiiii! - Hey! 251 00:15:52,475 --> 00:15:54,445 I need a picture! Eh--stop--awww! 252 00:15:57,179 --> 00:15:59,082 - Hey! - Hi! 253 00:16:02,484 --> 00:16:04,554 - Okay, be careful now. - Okay. 254 00:16:04,619 --> 00:16:05,988 - Be careful. - Okay. 255 00:16:06,054 --> 00:16:08,057 She been a little sick. 256 00:16:08,122 --> 00:16:11,462 I got you. 257 00:16:11,526 --> 00:16:14,530 Hi! - That's my girl! 258 00:16:14,595 --> 00:16:17,634 Hey, baby! - What's your name, baby? 259 00:16:17,698 --> 00:16:19,735 - Say, "My name's Nejdra Nance." 260 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,039 "My name Nejdra Nance." - Where's your daddy, Nejdra? 261 00:16:23,103 --> 00:16:25,641 - "My daddy's out working today." 262 00:16:25,706 --> 00:16:27,775 Dealing drugs ain't working. 263 00:16:31,444 --> 00:16:33,079 You look like a Netty 264 00:16:33,145 --> 00:16:35,717 I'm-a call you Netty 265 00:16:35,782 --> 00:16:37,618 You hear that, Netty? 266 00:16:37,683 --> 00:16:40,789 I'm your Auntie Cassandra. I'm gonna get the bottle. 267 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,664 Excuse me, miss, my daughter's been kidnapped. 268 00:16:51,729 --> 00:16:53,966 If you could give me a call if you see her-- 269 00:16:54,032 --> 00:16:56,503 Excuse me, sir, my daughter's been-- 270 00:16:56,567 --> 00:16:58,069 Excuse me, sir-- 271 00:17:06,843 --> 00:17:11,719 Hey. 272 00:17:13,216 --> 00:17:15,587 I spoke to my boss. 273 00:17:15,651 --> 00:17:17,488 I'm gonna get that raise 274 00:17:17,553 --> 00:17:19,556 so we can start looking for our own place. 275 00:17:19,621 --> 00:17:21,124 Don't bother. 276 00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:23,159 They're never gonna find her. - Yes, they will. 277 00:17:23,225 --> 00:17:24,928 Carl, just stop. 278 00:17:24,993 --> 00:17:28,499 Why are you so mad at me? 279 00:17:28,563 --> 00:17:30,700 Joy, no one could have known this would happen. 280 00:17:30,765 --> 00:17:32,602 It was late, a shift change, 281 00:17:32,667 --> 00:17:35,873 the cameras not working-- it was like a perfect storm! 282 00:17:35,936 --> 00:17:38,074 I keep thinking about that night-- 283 00:17:38,138 --> 00:17:41,011 that... nurse, 284 00:17:41,075 --> 00:17:43,179 all those things she said to me. 285 00:17:43,244 --> 00:17:46,950 She--I called a lawyer today. 286 00:17:47,013 --> 00:17:49,885 Somebody's gotta pay for this. 287 00:17:49,949 --> 00:17:51,719 Somebody's gotta pay. 288 00:17:57,723 --> 00:17:59,760 When's her birthday? 289 00:17:59,825 --> 00:18:02,563 July 31. 290 00:18:02,627 --> 00:18:06,634 Why did it take you three weeks to bring her around? 291 00:18:06,698 --> 00:18:08,067 They kept us in the hospital 292 00:18:08,132 --> 00:18:11,071 for a little while. - And you didn't call nobody? 293 00:18:11,135 --> 00:18:13,239 I didn't want to bother folks. 294 00:18:13,304 --> 00:18:15,307 - I ain't "folks"-- I'm your sister. 295 00:18:15,573 --> 00:18:18,745 Okay. I started having contractions. 296 00:18:18,809 --> 00:18:20,212 I didn't want to take no chances, 297 00:18:20,278 --> 00:18:21,813 so I went straight to the hospital. 298 00:18:21,879 --> 00:18:24,149 I didn't want no problems. 299 00:18:24,214 --> 00:18:25,784 I got there. 300 00:18:25,849 --> 00:18:28,988 They didn't think she was gonna make it. 301 00:18:29,052 --> 00:18:30,854 But she did. 302 00:18:35,291 --> 00:18:38,998 You're my little miracle baby, Nejdra. 303 00:18:39,061 --> 00:18:42,167 You're my little miracle baby. 304 00:19:00,781 --> 00:19:03,953 It's been nearly a year that 19-day-old Carlina White 305 00:19:04,017 --> 00:19:06,122 was snatched from a Harlem hospital. 306 00:19:06,186 --> 00:19:08,823 Parents have filed a 100 million lawsuit 307 00:19:08,888 --> 00:19:10,324 against the city 308 00:19:10,590 --> 00:19:13,595 that charges lax security and shoddy hiring practices. 309 00:19:13,660 --> 00:19:15,997 Carlina's life is priceless. 310 00:19:16,062 --> 00:19:18,099 No settlement in the world could ever measure up 311 00:19:18,164 --> 00:19:19,866 to having my daughter back. 312 00:19:19,932 --> 00:19:22,704 I can't believe the police haven't found my daughter yet. 313 00:19:22,768 --> 00:19:24,905 In the beginning, there were helicopters 314 00:19:24,970 --> 00:19:27,040 and police officers everywhere, 315 00:19:27,105 --> 00:19:29,809 but it all died down rather fast. 316 00:19:29,874 --> 00:19:31,711 Detective Dalton? 317 00:19:31,776 --> 00:19:34,314 I need some good news. - We're working on it. 318 00:19:34,379 --> 00:19:37,016 You said you'd find her. 319 00:19:37,081 --> 00:19:38,851 Look, there was a woman. 320 00:19:38,916 --> 00:19:41,620 Someone saw her at the hospital, then on the train with a baby. 321 00:19:41,685 --> 00:19:43,655 We're checking-- - If Carlina was a white girl, 322 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,924 you'd have found her by now. - You really believe that? 323 00:19:45,989 --> 00:19:48,293 At least she'd still be in the papers. 324 00:19:48,358 --> 00:19:51,798 - What do you want me to say? - I want you to keep your word. 325 00:19:51,862 --> 00:19:53,966 Find my daughter. 326 00:19:59,301 --> 00:20:01,338 - And that's 43.96. 327 00:20:01,403 --> 00:20:03,173 Cleanup in aisle 2. 328 00:20:03,238 --> 00:20:06,644 Cleanup in aisle 2. - Here you go. 329 00:20:06,708 --> 00:20:09,680 Keith, I need an authorization. 330 00:20:09,744 --> 00:20:12,749 Hold on a second, Mrs. Alexander. 331 00:20:12,814 --> 00:20:16,320 Is there a problem? 332 00:20:16,384 --> 00:20:18,755 Uh, no--there's just been an uptick in fraud. 333 00:20:18,819 --> 00:20:20,722 We just need to verify this quickly. 334 00:20:20,787 --> 00:20:22,758 I got cash. 335 00:20:22,823 --> 00:20:25,695 Sure. Thank you. 336 00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:28,296 Okay. 337 00:20:28,361 --> 00:20:30,331 Hold on a second, Mrs. Alexander. 338 00:20:30,397 --> 00:20:32,100 - What? - Your change. 339 00:20:32,165 --> 00:20:34,402 Marcus, can you come to the deli? 340 00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:36,202 Marcus to the deli. 341 00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:45,180 Auntie Cassandra's gonna get you some milk. 342 00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:47,348 Ugh, we're out of milk. 343 00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:49,884 That's why I went to the store. 344 00:20:49,948 --> 00:20:52,820 That's why I went to the store-- get my baby some milk! 345 00:20:52,884 --> 00:20:55,388 Yes! Mwah! You miss me? 346 00:20:55,453 --> 00:20:58,057 Yes, you did! 347 00:20:58,121 --> 00:21:00,927 Oh, baby. 348 00:21:03,293 --> 00:21:05,363 What you gonna do with that? 349 00:21:05,429 --> 00:21:07,900 I am gonna make Nejdra a new outfit. 350 00:21:07,964 --> 00:21:10,001 A dress and a hat--you like it? - That's sweet. 351 00:21:10,066 --> 00:21:11,869 I like that. - It's sweet, right? 352 00:21:11,935 --> 00:21:13,304 I like that--I like that one. 353 00:21:13,369 --> 00:21:15,741 Her daddy's taking us out for her first birthday, 354 00:21:15,805 --> 00:21:18,176 and l want us to look extra nice. 355 00:21:18,241 --> 00:21:21,947 You need to cut him loose and get yourself a job. 356 00:21:22,010 --> 00:21:23,947 For your information, 357 00:21:24,012 --> 00:21:26,817 Miss Holier-Than-Thou, I gots me a job. 358 00:21:26,882 --> 00:21:28,351 Well, let me show you 359 00:21:28,416 --> 00:21:30,853 what we been doin' all day. - No! 360 00:21:30,918 --> 00:21:32,955 I'll go with you, mama! 361 00:21:34,422 --> 00:21:41,334 Come here, precious! 362 00:21:41,395 --> 00:21:43,365 Hi, mama! 363 00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:45,200 - You did it! - That's right! 364 00:21:45,266 --> 00:21:47,302 We'd like to open up three accounts. 365 00:21:47,367 --> 00:21:49,505 One in my name. 366 00:21:49,770 --> 00:21:51,740 One in mine. 367 00:21:51,805 --> 00:21:54,809 And one is a trust in the name of Carlina White. 368 00:21:54,873 --> 00:21:56,210 And she is? 369 00:21:56,276 --> 00:21:58,480 Our daughter. 370 00:21:58,744 --> 00:22:01,950 That's good planning-- where's the little one? 371 00:22:02,014 --> 00:22:05,387 - Do you see her? - Uh, Carlina's not with us, 372 00:22:05,450 --> 00:22:07,053 but we're hoping she will be soon. 373 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,225 Well, our minimum deposit is 100 per account. 374 00:22:10,289 --> 00:22:12,392 Is that okay? 375 00:22:21,765 --> 00:22:24,269 That's almost half a million dollars. 376 00:22:24,334 --> 00:22:26,939 What do you have to do to make that kind of money? 377 00:22:27,004 --> 00:22:28,907 It was a settlement, okay? 378 00:22:32,875 --> 00:22:34,378 Want to get a coffee or something? 379 00:22:34,444 --> 00:22:36,313 - I'm gonna be late. - How about tonight? 380 00:22:36,378 --> 00:22:38,515 - I can't. - You can't keep avoiding me. 381 00:22:38,781 --> 00:22:42,154 I've got to get to class. 382 00:22:42,217 --> 00:22:45,223 How's the studying going? 383 00:22:45,287 --> 00:22:47,958 Carl, I know you've been trying, 384 00:22:48,023 --> 00:22:50,995 but every time I look at you, I see Carlina. 385 00:22:51,059 --> 00:22:52,461 I see her face. 386 00:22:52,527 --> 00:22:55,266 I see her eyes. 387 00:22:55,330 --> 00:22:57,467 I don't want to be angry anymore. 388 00:22:57,532 --> 00:22:59,435 It's my fault, right? 389 00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:02,037 We both left the hospital that night. 390 00:23:02,102 --> 00:23:04,039 You think you're the only one that's angry. 391 00:23:04,104 --> 00:23:05,841 There's not a day goes by 392 00:23:05,906 --> 00:23:08,043 I don't think about what our lives could've been like 393 00:23:08,108 --> 00:23:10,077 if this didn't happen. 394 00:23:10,143 --> 00:23:12,046 I'm sorry. 395 00:23:12,111 --> 00:23:14,014 I just... can't. 396 00:23:17,249 --> 00:23:19,120 I just can't. 397 00:23:22,321 --> 00:23:25,059 Hey, what's up, cutie? 398 00:23:25,123 --> 00:23:28,395 Don't you ever talk to strangers, you hear me? 399 00:23:28,459 --> 00:23:31,032 What do you do if a stranger tries to give you candy? 400 00:23:31,096 --> 00:23:33,567 - I scream "No!" and run. - Good. Good. 401 00:23:33,831 --> 00:23:35,868 - Do I gotta go? - Yes, you gotta go. 402 00:23:35,933 --> 00:23:37,302 Can't you teach me? 403 00:23:37,368 --> 00:23:39,071 Mama can't teach you everything, baby. 404 00:23:39,136 --> 00:23:41,073 Don't you want to grow up and be smart, 405 00:23:41,138 --> 00:23:43,542 like the Huxtables on TV? - I don't wanna go to school! 406 00:23:43,607 --> 00:23:45,377 Look here-- don't test me today, okay? 407 00:23:45,442 --> 00:23:47,345 Don't test me today-- do you hear me? 408 00:23:47,411 --> 00:23:49,347 Do you hear me? 409 00:23:49,412 --> 00:23:51,382 Yes. 410 00:23:54,417 --> 00:23:57,122 Don't be upset, okay? 411 00:23:57,187 --> 00:23:58,522 Mama just loves you so much 412 00:23:58,588 --> 00:24:01,259 that she wants what's best for you. 413 00:24:01,323 --> 00:24:04,529 You mama's miracle baby, Nejdra. 414 00:24:04,593 --> 00:24:07,231 Can I get a smile? 415 00:24:07,295 --> 00:24:09,099 You can do better than that! 416 00:24:09,164 --> 00:24:11,601 Come on, give me a smile! 417 00:24:11,866 --> 00:24:13,469 Come on. 418 00:24:13,535 --> 00:24:15,170 Mwah... let's go to school, big girl. 419 00:24:17,304 --> 00:24:21,112 # The blinds are pulled # - Hurry up, mama--it's time! 420 00:24:21,175 --> 00:24:23,345 What'd I tell you about bothering me this early? 421 00:24:23,411 --> 00:24:27,484 # With both of us, this house might bust # 422 00:24:27,547 --> 00:24:33,191 I'm comin'! 423 00:24:33,253 --> 00:24:35,189 # And all this family # 424 00:24:35,255 --> 00:24:38,326 I'm comin'. 425 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:41,362 # We're gonna have a merry Christmas, babe # 426 00:24:41,427 --> 00:24:46,303 # A very merry Christmas, baby # - Let's see what you got. 427 00:24:46,365 --> 00:24:49,269 - # A merry Christmas, babe # - Are all these for me? 428 00:24:49,333 --> 00:24:52,506 - # Very merry Christmas, baby # 429 00:24:52,570 --> 00:24:54,507 Yeah, you been a good girl this year, 430 00:24:54,572 --> 00:24:56,676 so here--open this one first. 431 00:24:56,941 --> 00:24:58,377 No, no, no--open this one. 432 00:24:58,443 --> 00:25:00,112 Open this one first. 433 00:25:00,177 --> 00:25:03,216 - Here! - Look, baby. 434 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,519 # The old neighborhood always looked so good # 435 00:25:06,583 --> 00:25:10,324 And this one's for you. 436 00:25:10,387 --> 00:25:13,358 # We say hello to the friends we can and can't remember # 437 00:25:13,423 --> 00:25:16,060 I know you want to do hair when you grow up, 438 00:25:16,125 --> 00:25:18,062 so I say you could practice on her. 439 00:25:18,127 --> 00:25:20,965 # Then the handbells ring # - Can I brush it now? 440 00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:22,532 Can I, please? - Yeah, yeah. 441 00:25:22,598 --> 00:25:25,537 Go get my brush. # And then the children sing # 442 00:25:25,601 --> 00:25:27,470 I don't get no sugar--what? 443 00:25:27,535 --> 00:25:29,105 Huh? 444 00:25:29,171 --> 00:25:31,341 # The fireplace is on the embers # 445 00:25:31,406 --> 00:25:32,941 And Netty, hurry up, 446 00:25:33,007 --> 00:25:34,944 'cause we're already late to your grandma's house. 447 00:25:35,009 --> 00:25:40,185 # You and me and all this family # 448 00:25:40,247 --> 00:25:43,119 Mm... all these presents? 449 00:25:43,184 --> 00:25:46,088 You didn't have but two pennies to rub together last month. 450 00:25:46,153 --> 00:25:48,189 Ain't you gonna open it? 451 00:25:48,254 --> 00:25:50,626 Huh... well, whatever you're doin', 452 00:25:50,691 --> 00:25:52,961 you better watch out before you end up 453 00:25:53,026 --> 00:25:54,963 in a prison cell right next to Netty's daddy. 454 00:25:55,028 --> 00:25:56,964 Why don't you see what you got? 455 00:25:57,030 --> 00:25:58,665 You're acting like a prison guard yourself. 456 00:25:58,731 --> 00:26:00,634 - I'm just sayin'-- - I'm just sayin', 457 00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:02,970 it's Christmas-- why don't you enjoy yourself? 458 00:26:03,035 --> 00:26:04,972 # The old neighborhood # 459 00:26:05,037 --> 00:26:09,578 # always looked so good each December # 460 00:26:09,641 --> 00:26:11,544 Remember that day? 461 00:26:11,609 --> 00:26:14,649 # We say hello to the friends we can and can't remember # 462 00:26:14,713 --> 00:26:16,983 Thank you. 463 00:26:17,048 --> 00:26:20,687 - Mama, where's your brush? - Um, it's in my top drawer. 464 00:26:20,751 --> 00:26:22,554 And, Netty, get a move on, all right? 465 00:26:22,619 --> 00:26:25,993 We ain't got all day. 466 00:26:26,056 --> 00:26:27,592 I can't find it. 467 00:26:27,658 --> 00:26:32,066 Well, it's in there, but you gotta go. 468 00:26:32,128 --> 00:26:34,233 Fine. 469 00:26:34,297 --> 00:26:36,367 Bye, mama. 470 00:26:36,432 --> 00:26:39,639 Bye... Netty. 471 00:26:44,773 --> 00:26:48,447 Excuse me, I'm looking for a Detective Dalton. 472 00:26:48,510 --> 00:26:51,514 Oh, he retired last week. 473 00:26:51,580 --> 00:26:55,586 Can I help you? 474 00:26:55,649 --> 00:26:57,286 I'm Joy White. 475 00:26:57,352 --> 00:26:59,556 My daughter Carlina White was kidnapped 476 00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:01,457 16 years ago. 477 00:27:01,522 --> 00:27:03,091 I'm here to look at the book. 478 00:27:03,156 --> 00:27:05,261 Yeah, he told me you were gonna come by. 479 00:27:05,325 --> 00:27:07,162 Uh, let's see here. 480 00:27:07,227 --> 00:27:11,234 Here. 481 00:27:11,298 --> 00:27:13,200 Not a lot of new faces in the book 482 00:27:13,266 --> 00:27:14,669 since last month, though. 483 00:27:14,734 --> 00:27:16,536 Here, have a seat. 484 00:27:21,707 --> 00:27:24,244 I'll never forget hers. 485 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:26,714 "The baby don't cry for you. 486 00:27:26,779 --> 00:27:29,283 You cry for the baby." 487 00:27:36,186 --> 00:27:38,157 When were you gonna tell me? 488 00:27:38,222 --> 00:27:41,661 What? 489 00:27:41,726 --> 00:27:44,564 Ride or die, right? 490 00:27:44,628 --> 00:27:47,400 Besties. 491 00:27:47,464 --> 00:27:50,503 Ann ain't stupid. 492 00:27:50,567 --> 00:27:54,073 And when she find out, she gonna be real mad. 493 00:27:54,137 --> 00:27:57,109 - What if she kicks me out? - Come live with me. 494 00:27:57,173 --> 00:27:58,608 Will you tell her for me? 495 00:27:58,674 --> 00:28:01,479 Mmmm... we'll tell her together 496 00:28:01,544 --> 00:28:03,714 when I get back from Atlanta. 497 00:28:05,848 --> 00:28:07,784 You know you're my girl, right? 498 00:28:07,849 --> 00:28:08,850 Mm-hmm. 499 00:28:09,118 --> 00:28:11,155 # Everybody move, man # 500 00:28:11,219 --> 00:28:13,222 # Just groove, players gotta do your dance # 501 00:28:13,287 --> 00:28:15,391 # Just breathe, ladies better choose a man # 502 00:28:15,456 --> 00:28:17,193 # Let's go, let's go, let's go # 503 00:28:17,258 --> 00:28:20,130 # Just clap # # 504 00:28:20,194 --> 00:28:22,698 I'm-a have to beat these boys off her with a stick. 505 00:28:22,763 --> 00:28:25,234 Least she got better taste than you do. 506 00:28:25,298 --> 00:28:27,803 - Oh, no, you ain't gonna start. - Hey, hey... 507 00:28:27,868 --> 00:28:30,205 - You ain't startin'! - 'Cause I'm scared of you. 508 00:28:30,270 --> 00:28:32,407 I'm really scared of you. - Oh, you should be. 509 00:28:32,472 --> 00:28:33,874 You should be. 510 00:28:34,141 --> 00:28:36,745 Huh! Huh! Huh! Huh! 511 00:28:36,809 --> 00:28:40,182 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! 512 00:28:41,747 --> 00:28:45,655 Why don't you go say something to your guests, please? 513 00:28:48,355 --> 00:28:50,592 And stand still. 514 00:28:50,657 --> 00:28:52,393 - Hi, y'all. - Hey. 515 00:28:52,458 --> 00:28:56,132 So glad you guys could all come to my "Sweet 16." 516 00:28:56,195 --> 00:28:59,267 It's really nice to have all my friends here today. 517 00:28:59,331 --> 00:29:01,568 I don't know what I'd do without you guys. 518 00:29:01,633 --> 00:29:03,268 All y'all are me. 519 00:29:03,334 --> 00:29:06,406 Know what I'm sayin'? 520 00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:19,418 # Dudes can't pick that up # 521 00:29:19,483 --> 00:29:22,388 # Slackin' in the game so I came here to pick that up # 522 00:29:22,452 --> 00:29:23,887 # Just clap Everybody movin', man # 523 00:29:24,153 --> 00:29:25,923 # Just groove players gotta do your dance # 524 00:29:26,189 --> 00:29:28,159 What I tell you-- 525 00:29:28,224 --> 00:29:30,194 - --about getting all close up with these boys? 526 00:29:30,259 --> 00:29:32,596 - We weren't doing nothing. - I know what I'm talking about. 527 00:29:32,661 --> 00:29:34,664 All right, people, party's over. 528 00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:38,404 You all need to go home. 529 00:29:38,467 --> 00:29:39,735 We are home. 530 00:29:39,801 --> 00:29:41,571 Go inside. 531 00:29:41,636 --> 00:29:42,905 Why? 532 00:29:43,171 --> 00:29:45,575 Because we said so. 533 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,541 Becau-- 534 00:29:46,607 --> 00:29:48,211 Becau-- 535 00:29:48,276 --> 00:29:50,413 Last time I checked, 536 00:29:50,478 --> 00:29:52,615 it was legal to stand on the street. 537 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,418 - Come on, mama, let's go. - Get your hands off me, girl. 538 00:29:55,482 --> 00:29:57,752 I ain't scared of these cops! 539 00:29:59,619 --> 00:30:01,255 - Is there a problem? - No! 540 00:30:01,321 --> 00:30:03,559 - Yes... you. 541 00:30:03,623 --> 00:30:06,261 - Mama, he's serious. - So am I! 542 00:30:06,325 --> 00:30:07,896 This is my house. 543 00:30:07,961 --> 00:30:09,763 This is my street! 544 00:30:09,828 --> 00:30:11,732 My street! 545 00:30:11,797 --> 00:30:13,300 What are you on, ma'am? 546 00:30:13,366 --> 00:30:16,839 What am I-- 547 00:30:16,902 --> 00:30:18,939 I'm high on life. 548 00:30:19,204 --> 00:30:22,543 All right--I'm high on life. 549 00:30:22,607 --> 00:30:26,581 Go inside... right now. 550 00:30:26,644 --> 00:30:28,915 - Or what? - You need to stop and be quiet. 551 00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:30,950 Get your hands off me, girl! 552 00:30:31,215 --> 00:30:34,287 Don't you touch. 553 00:30:34,351 --> 00:30:36,289 Or what? 554 00:30:36,353 --> 00:30:38,256 What you gonna do? 555 00:30:38,321 --> 00:30:40,258 Huh? 556 00:30:40,323 --> 00:30:41,959 You gonna beat me in the street? 557 00:30:42,225 --> 00:30:44,395 You gonna beat me in the street like Rodney King? 558 00:30:44,461 --> 00:30:46,631 What you gonna do?! - What's goin' on? 559 00:30:46,696 --> 00:30:48,533 They violatin' my human rights. 560 00:30:48,598 --> 00:30:50,535 That's what's goin' on. - You're coming with me. 561 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,402 - I ain't goin'-- - Officer, wait! Wait! 562 00:30:52,468 --> 00:30:54,672 Please, please, wait-- I'll take her back in the house. 563 00:30:54,737 --> 00:30:56,673 You don't have to beg for me, girl. 564 00:30:56,738 --> 00:30:58,575 These cops ain't got nothin' on me! 565 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,643 Get off me--I can walk-- I can walk! 566 00:31:00,709 --> 00:31:03,681 Get off me! 567 00:31:09,584 --> 00:31:11,487 Bless us, Lord, 568 00:31:11,552 --> 00:31:13,555 make us thankful 569 00:31:13,621 --> 00:31:15,958 through Christ our Lord. 570 00:31:16,023 --> 00:31:20,464 And, Lord, as we celebrate Carlina's 16th birthday, 571 00:31:20,527 --> 00:31:23,933 please keep her safe and happy. 572 00:31:23,997 --> 00:31:26,034 And I humbly ask 573 00:31:26,299 --> 00:31:27,935 you bring her back to me 574 00:31:28,001 --> 00:31:30,505 when you see fit. 575 00:31:30,569 --> 00:31:33,908 Amen. 576 00:31:33,972 --> 00:31:37,446 Are you gonna do this every year on her birthday? 577 00:31:37,510 --> 00:31:39,680 I will... 578 00:31:39,745 --> 00:31:42,416 until Carlina comes home or I die. 579 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,717 That's not healthy. 580 00:31:44,782 --> 00:31:47,954 So you a psychologist now? 581 00:31:48,019 --> 00:31:51,893 We're just saying maybe it's time to let her go. 582 00:31:51,956 --> 00:31:54,627 If, God forbid, 583 00:31:54,691 --> 00:31:58,365 something happened to you or your sister, 584 00:31:58,428 --> 00:32:00,666 would you want me to let it go? 585 00:32:10,506 --> 00:32:12,610 Hi, Carl. 586 00:32:12,675 --> 00:32:14,745 Thank you for the flowers. 587 00:32:14,810 --> 00:32:16,747 Thanks for the card. 588 00:32:16,812 --> 00:32:18,514 How are the kids? 589 00:32:18,580 --> 00:32:20,684 My oldest boy just got his learner's permit 590 00:32:20,748 --> 00:32:22,919 last month. - Now that can't be good. 591 00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:25,989 You ain't lying. 592 00:32:26,054 --> 00:32:28,993 Really, Carl, how are you? 593 00:32:29,057 --> 00:32:32,530 Well, you know, this is always 594 00:32:32,593 --> 00:32:34,830 one of the hardest days of the year for me. 595 00:32:34,895 --> 00:32:38,435 Me, too. 596 00:32:38,499 --> 00:32:40,435 Hey, sis, so how was the interview? 597 00:32:40,501 --> 00:32:42,705 Well... I got the job! 598 00:32:44,371 --> 00:32:46,541 Yeah, Cassie-- Iook at you! 599 00:32:46,606 --> 00:32:48,643 Yeah, I'm gonna be moving down there. 600 00:32:48,708 --> 00:32:50,745 Atlanta is real nice. 601 00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:52,647 The streets are full of hard-working brothers 602 00:32:52,712 --> 00:32:54,581 with suits... suits! - Mm-hmm! 603 00:32:54,646 --> 00:32:56,951 I don't care if they all look like Denzel, 604 00:32:57,016 --> 00:32:58,952 it's too damn hot down there for me. 605 00:32:59,017 --> 00:33:01,422 So maybe Netty could come down there. 606 00:33:01,486 --> 00:33:04,458 It's a great place to start a family. 607 00:33:04,523 --> 00:33:07,494 What you talking about? 608 00:33:07,558 --> 00:33:10,563 I can get a job... 609 00:33:10,628 --> 00:33:12,832 and, uh, a place for me and the baby. 610 00:33:21,105 --> 00:33:22,740 - You pregnant? - Wait... 611 00:33:22,805 --> 00:33:25,611 before you get mad, remember how you were at that age. 612 00:33:25,675 --> 00:33:28,514 No. No. 613 00:33:28,578 --> 00:33:31,416 No grandbaby of mine is gonna be raised in no Atlanta. 614 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,052 We puttin' a child-pen right here. 615 00:33:34,117 --> 00:33:37,823 - You're not mad? - No, girl, I'm happy! 616 00:33:37,886 --> 00:33:40,423 I'm happy-- I'm gonna be a grandmama! 617 00:33:40,489 --> 00:33:42,693 Is it a girl? 618 00:33:42,758 --> 00:33:44,427 Is it a girl--it's a girl? 619 00:33:44,492 --> 00:33:47,164 Oh, my God, I want a girl-- I want a girl! 620 00:33:47,429 --> 00:33:49,633 Well, we gotta get prenatal vitamins 621 00:33:49,697 --> 00:33:51,834 and a checkup. - We might need a bigger place. 622 00:33:51,899 --> 00:33:53,736 How are we gonna pay for all this? 623 00:33:53,801 --> 00:33:55,971 I can pay! 624 00:33:56,036 --> 00:33:57,974 The state will pay for some of it. 625 00:33:58,038 --> 00:34:01,945 No grandbaby of mine is gonna be raised by no welfare. 626 00:34:02,008 --> 00:34:04,980 I can pay. 627 00:34:05,044 --> 00:34:08,919 Credit card. 628 00:34:08,982 --> 00:34:13,022 We'll get her in the system just in case, okay? 629 00:34:18,724 --> 00:34:20,793 Hey, did you find my birth certificate? 630 00:34:20,859 --> 00:34:22,696 I need to go to the appointment soon. 631 00:34:22,761 --> 00:34:23,996 It's here somewhere. 632 00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:25,965 I'll handle it when I get home from work. 633 00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:28,067 That's what you said Iast week. 634 00:34:28,132 --> 00:34:31,605 I'll handle it when I get home from work. 635 00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:35,476 I promise. 636 00:35:25,084 --> 00:35:27,054 Next. 637 00:35:33,259 --> 00:35:35,596 Here are the forms and... 638 00:35:35,661 --> 00:35:38,666 my birth certificate. - Okay. 639 00:35:49,106 --> 00:35:50,909 We have no record of your birth. 640 00:35:50,975 --> 00:35:52,110 What? 641 00:35:52,176 --> 00:35:54,915 No Nejdra Nance born July 31, 1987? 642 00:35:54,979 --> 00:35:58,018 Bridgeport, Connecticut. 643 00:35:58,082 --> 00:36:00,786 We have no Nejdra Nance in the system. 644 00:36:00,851 --> 00:36:03,856 I didn't make it up-- can you check again? 645 00:36:08,724 --> 00:36:11,262 - This document is a forgery. - No, it's not. 646 00:36:15,230 --> 00:36:18,169 Don't make me call the police. 647 00:36:24,673 --> 00:36:27,277 I'd like to thank the DJ for starting my set off 648 00:36:27,542 --> 00:36:29,211 on a racist note. 649 00:36:29,277 --> 00:36:31,581 Everybody else came up to-- 650 00:36:31,645 --> 00:36:33,715 What did you do with my real birth certificate? 651 00:36:33,781 --> 00:36:37,020 Have you lost your mind-- I was watching that! 652 00:36:37,083 --> 00:36:41,225 The state of Connecticut has no record of my birth. 653 00:36:41,288 --> 00:36:43,993 - Who told you that? - I went downtown 654 00:36:44,057 --> 00:36:46,327 with the fake certificate I found in your closet. 655 00:36:51,130 --> 00:36:53,668 - You went in my room? - To find my birth certificate. 656 00:36:53,733 --> 00:36:55,736 I done told you about goin' in my room! 657 00:36:55,802 --> 00:36:57,838 - They almost called-- - I done told you! 658 00:36:57,904 --> 00:37:00,675 They almost called the cops on me! 659 00:37:00,739 --> 00:37:02,209 What's goin' on? 660 00:37:02,274 --> 00:37:05,045 Why don't I have a real birth certificate? 661 00:37:05,109 --> 00:37:07,782 Why?! 662 00:37:07,846 --> 00:37:09,715 She left you and she never came back. 663 00:37:09,780 --> 00:37:11,116 What? 664 00:37:11,182 --> 00:37:13,252 She was a friend of your father's. 665 00:37:13,318 --> 00:37:16,022 - What are you talkin' about? - Your mother. 666 00:37:16,086 --> 00:37:17,756 She left you on my doorstep. 667 00:37:20,324 --> 00:37:23,830 You're not my real mother? 668 00:37:23,893 --> 00:37:26,097 She left you 669 00:37:26,162 --> 00:37:29,301 because she knew I'd raise you right. 670 00:37:29,365 --> 00:37:32,003 And I did. 671 00:37:32,068 --> 00:37:35,274 I did raise you right, didn't I? 672 00:37:35,338 --> 00:37:37,675 - What was her name? - Didn't I? 673 00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:39,944 What was my mother's name? 674 00:37:40,008 --> 00:37:42,145 You don't--you don't even need to know all that. 675 00:37:42,210 --> 00:37:44,647 Yes, I do. 676 00:37:44,712 --> 00:37:47,717 All that matters right now is you and me. 677 00:37:50,618 --> 00:37:53,857 You call me "Little Ann..." 678 00:37:53,921 --> 00:37:57,093 'cause I look just like you. 679 00:37:57,157 --> 00:38:00,063 You pretended to be my real mother. 680 00:38:00,127 --> 00:38:03,700 What--how could you lie like that? 681 00:38:03,764 --> 00:38:06,703 To me? 682 00:38:10,003 --> 00:38:12,040 Netty... 683 00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,209 Now you can't be mad at me for that now. 684 00:38:16,275 --> 00:38:18,278 Come here-- come on, don't be like that. 685 00:38:18,343 --> 00:38:21,716 Come here. 686 00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:24,252 Now you can't be mad at me! 687 00:38:24,316 --> 00:38:26,953 I took you out of a bad situation, 688 00:38:27,018 --> 00:38:29,021 and I did my best for you. 689 00:38:29,086 --> 00:38:32,026 I did my best for you-- that's all you need to know. 690 00:38:35,426 --> 00:38:37,429 Look here. 691 00:38:37,694 --> 00:38:40,332 Netty... I did my best. 692 00:38:46,169 --> 00:38:49,007 What--Netty... Netty! 693 00:38:49,072 --> 00:38:52,243 Netty! 694 00:38:56,813 --> 00:38:58,815 You sure you don't want me to stay 695 00:38:58,881 --> 00:39:01,352 till you have the baby? - We'll be fine. 696 00:39:01,417 --> 00:39:03,821 You could always come stay with me. 697 00:39:03,885 --> 00:39:06,256 I mean it. 698 00:39:06,321 --> 00:39:08,759 You and that baby are always welcome. 699 00:39:08,824 --> 00:39:10,459 Tell me the truth. 700 00:39:10,724 --> 00:39:13,697 Did you know? 701 00:39:13,761 --> 00:39:16,967 She told me she gave birth to you, and I believed her. 702 00:39:17,031 --> 00:39:19,301 Why--Why did you believe her? 703 00:39:19,366 --> 00:39:22,940 I didn't think she would lie about something like that. 704 00:39:23,003 --> 00:39:25,874 Look, Netty, here's the truth. 705 00:39:25,939 --> 00:39:27,709 I don't care who gave birth to you. 706 00:39:27,774 --> 00:39:30,946 But I do. 707 00:39:31,010 --> 00:39:33,047 You sure you want to know? 708 00:39:33,112 --> 00:39:35,916 'Cause the truth don't always turn out the way you want. 709 00:39:35,982 --> 00:39:37,984 Cassie, if I don't know who I am, 710 00:39:38,050 --> 00:39:40,254 how am I gonna tell my baby who she is? 711 00:39:42,788 --> 00:39:44,490 - All right, I got the last two. 712 00:39:50,828 --> 00:39:53,867 Here you go. 713 00:40:00,270 --> 00:40:02,073 I'm gonna miss you, girl. 714 00:40:07,210 --> 00:40:09,347 Baby on the doorstep? 715 00:40:09,412 --> 00:40:12,918 You gonna have to tell her more than that. 716 00:40:18,087 --> 00:40:20,424 Mind your business, Cassie. 717 00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:27,964 You be careful. 718 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:34,972 Call me! 719 00:40:54,086 --> 00:40:56,089 She was a tiny figure 720 00:40:56,155 --> 00:40:57,457 they knew for a tiny time, 721 00:40:57,523 --> 00:40:59,995 but 17 years after she was snatched away, 722 00:41:00,059 --> 00:41:02,329 the ache remains. - I feel it in my spirit. 723 00:41:02,394 --> 00:41:04,163 --says Joy White, 724 00:41:04,228 --> 00:41:05,799 the mother of the abducted child, 725 00:41:05,864 --> 00:41:07,499 who works for a financial brokerage firm. 726 00:41:07,566 --> 00:41:10,003 I use that name as my e-mail address, 727 00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:12,939 - Someone out there has her-- I could walk past her any day, 728 00:41:13,004 --> 00:41:14,973 and she wouldn't know her own father. 729 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:16,442 Back to you, Bill. 730 00:41:27,317 --> 00:41:30,556 "Dear Oprah... 731 00:41:30,820 --> 00:41:32,556 "I'm writing to you because... 732 00:41:32,822 --> 00:41:35,159 "I can't think of anyone else who can help me. 733 00:41:38,127 --> 00:41:40,397 "I've recently found out the woman who raised me 734 00:41:40,463 --> 00:41:43,569 "is not my mother. 735 00:41:43,832 --> 00:41:45,434 "I had a healthy baby girl 736 00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:49,040 "and moved to Atlanta to be near my aunt. 737 00:41:49,104 --> 00:41:52,910 "My baby makes me happy, 738 00:41:52,974 --> 00:41:55,178 "but inside, I feel lost. 739 00:41:58,212 --> 00:42:01,985 "Can you help me find my parents? 740 00:42:02,048 --> 00:42:05,922 "I need to know the truth in a life filled with lies. 741 00:42:05,986 --> 00:42:08,557 "Sincerely... 742 00:42:08,622 --> 00:42:10,959 Nejdra Nance." 743 00:42:11,024 --> 00:42:13,428 Smile! 744 00:42:13,493 --> 00:42:15,028 Perfect. 745 00:42:15,094 --> 00:42:17,999 - Have a great day, beautiful! - Bye! 746 00:42:18,063 --> 00:42:20,333 Bye! 747 00:42:20,398 --> 00:42:22,937 - My name is... - Maya Nance. 748 00:42:23,002 --> 00:42:25,272 I'm 6 years old. - And I live in... 749 00:42:25,337 --> 00:42:28,543 - Atlanta, Georgia. - But I was born in... 750 00:42:28,607 --> 00:42:31,244 - Bridgeport... Con-nect-i-cut. 751 00:42:31,308 --> 00:42:33,146 Very good-- that's hard to say. 752 00:42:33,211 --> 00:42:35,415 Your teacher's gonna be very happy. 753 00:42:35,479 --> 00:42:37,249 - Mama? - Mm-hmm? 754 00:42:37,314 --> 00:42:40,421 Were you born in Con-nect-i-cut, too? 755 00:42:40,484 --> 00:42:43,188 I don't know where I was born, baby, 756 00:42:43,253 --> 00:42:46,158 but I'm gonna find out. 757 00:43:02,671 --> 00:43:05,208 - Look at this. - You on that web site again? 758 00:43:05,273 --> 00:43:08,613 No, look at this-- she was born July 15, 1987. 759 00:43:08,677 --> 00:43:10,179 That's about right. 760 00:43:10,245 --> 00:43:12,582 I was born July 31, 1987. 761 00:43:12,647 --> 00:43:16,053 You think it's me? 762 00:43:16,116 --> 00:43:17,686 Mm... that baby ain't you. 763 00:43:17,951 --> 00:43:19,588 She got too much hair. 764 00:43:19,654 --> 00:43:22,025 She looks just like Maya did. 765 00:43:22,089 --> 00:43:24,092 Look again, for real. 766 00:43:32,131 --> 00:43:34,435 She does look like you did at that age. 767 00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:36,670 "Carlina Renae White was last seen 768 00:43:36,935 --> 00:43:39,140 in the Harlem Hospital Children's Ward." 769 00:43:39,205 --> 00:43:40,941 Hm-mmm... Ann's twisted, 770 00:43:41,006 --> 00:43:44,278 but she wouldn't have done all that. 771 00:43:44,342 --> 00:43:47,281 Call the number. 772 00:43:49,114 --> 00:43:51,016 Center for Missing and Exploited Children... 773 00:43:51,082 --> 00:43:52,585 This is Keith. 774 00:43:52,650 --> 00:43:54,653 I may have information on a missing child. 775 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,488 Well, we're not sure she's missing. 776 00:43:56,553 --> 00:43:59,091 She's missing. 777 00:43:59,156 --> 00:44:01,126 She thinks she was abducted from a hospital. 778 00:44:01,192 --> 00:44:02,594 Is the child in immediate danger? 779 00:44:02,659 --> 00:44:04,629 No, but we been trying to get information 780 00:44:04,695 --> 00:44:06,965 for the last five years with no luck. 781 00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:08,532 Can you tell me something about her? 782 00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:10,601 - Like what? - How old is she? 783 00:44:10,666 --> 00:44:13,438 - 23. - And her race? 784 00:44:13,502 --> 00:44:15,607 I guess African-American-- could be Dominican. 785 00:44:15,671 --> 00:44:17,508 Probably African-American. 786 00:44:17,573 --> 00:44:20,010 Does she have any identifying characteristics-- 787 00:44:20,075 --> 00:44:23,147 any birthmarks? - No. 788 00:44:23,212 --> 00:44:25,516 Yes, she has a birthmark on her right arm. 789 00:44:25,580 --> 00:44:27,283 Right, a birthmark. 790 00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:30,187 Who is "she"-- who's missing? 791 00:44:30,251 --> 00:44:32,756 Me. 792 00:44:33,020 --> 00:44:34,758 I am. 793 00:44:35,022 --> 00:44:37,260 Keith, take a look at this. 794 00:44:37,325 --> 00:44:39,996 Okay, we took the photograph that Nejdra Nance sent us 795 00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:41,630 of her at 6 months, 796 00:44:41,695 --> 00:44:44,600 and the one Joy White sent us of Baby Carlina at 9 days old. 797 00:44:44,665 --> 00:44:47,069 We did an aging progression sequence on both, 798 00:44:47,134 --> 00:44:49,071 and I think we have a match. 799 00:45:09,053 --> 00:45:11,658 Carlina's alive! 800 00:45:11,722 --> 00:45:15,028 Oh, God--praise God! 801 00:45:15,093 --> 00:45:18,331 My baby's alive-- it's Carlina! 802 00:45:18,396 --> 00:45:21,534 My daughter-- she's alive. 803 00:45:27,271 --> 00:45:29,375 What's up? 804 00:45:29,439 --> 00:45:31,408 They think they found her. 805 00:45:31,474 --> 00:45:33,211 My God. 806 00:45:33,276 --> 00:45:35,213 She's living in Atlanta. 807 00:45:35,278 --> 00:45:36,647 How do they know it's her? 808 00:45:36,712 --> 00:45:38,715 We have to take DNA tests. 809 00:45:38,781 --> 00:45:42,822 We shouldn't get our hopes up. 810 00:45:43,084 --> 00:45:44,822 Look at this, Carl. 811 00:45:48,623 --> 00:45:50,760 She has my eyes. 812 00:45:53,227 --> 00:45:56,166 Oh, my God, Joy, I-- 813 00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:58,500 It's her. 814 00:45:58,565 --> 00:46:00,402 We found our baby girl! 815 00:46:31,496 --> 00:46:35,202 - "He secretly wept at night. - "...at night. 816 00:46:35,266 --> 00:46:39,841 "He felt nobody wanted him. 817 00:46:40,103 --> 00:46:42,875 "Why am I d-- 818 00:46:43,139 --> 00:46:47,481 "different from my brothers?" 819 00:46:47,543 --> 00:46:50,716 Oh, look at you readin'! 820 00:46:50,780 --> 00:46:53,418 Look at you! 821 00:46:53,483 --> 00:46:56,254 - He's not ugly. - He ugly for a duckling. 822 00:46:57,887 --> 00:46:59,857 - Grandma? - Yeah, baby? 823 00:47:00,122 --> 00:47:02,259 Why do you live so far away? 824 00:47:02,324 --> 00:47:04,327 I want you to come live with us one day. 825 00:47:04,393 --> 00:47:07,264 Oh, that' sweet, baby-- maybe one day. 826 00:47:07,328 --> 00:47:10,868 Mama, Grandma Ann might come live with us one day. 827 00:47:11,132 --> 00:47:13,536 Maya, will you leave me and Grandma 828 00:47:13,601 --> 00:47:16,908 alone for a minute? 829 00:47:17,171 --> 00:47:19,376 - All right, bye, Smarty-Pants. - Bye. 830 00:47:19,441 --> 00:47:21,443 - We gonna read later, okay? - Okay. 831 00:47:21,509 --> 00:47:25,149 All right-- she readin' so good! 832 00:47:29,217 --> 00:47:31,888 I need to know about my parents. 833 00:47:34,421 --> 00:47:36,758 Netty, I didn't come down here to argue with you. 834 00:47:36,823 --> 00:47:38,893 Mama, no matter what you say, 835 00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:43,366 as long as it's the truth, I won't get mad. 836 00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:46,468 I promise. 837 00:47:48,234 --> 00:47:52,375 You want to know the truth? 838 00:47:52,438 --> 00:47:54,708 Hmm? - Yes. 839 00:47:54,773 --> 00:47:56,877 Okay. 840 00:48:01,379 --> 00:48:03,950 Your mama was a crack ho. 841 00:48:04,215 --> 00:48:06,620 You was a crack baby-- she didn't want you, 842 00:48:06,684 --> 00:48:09,890 so I took you in, and now you sittin' up here 843 00:48:09,954 --> 00:48:11,891 treatin' me like I did something wrong. 844 00:48:11,956 --> 00:48:14,794 Puttin' me on trial like I did something wrong... 845 00:48:14,858 --> 00:48:17,630 when I did the right thing. 846 00:48:17,694 --> 00:48:19,431 You know what I shoulda done? 847 00:48:19,496 --> 00:48:21,633 I shoulda left your little crackhead behind 848 00:48:21,698 --> 00:48:23,634 out on the street, just like your mama. 849 00:48:23,699 --> 00:48:25,669 - Get out! - It's in the genes! 850 00:48:25,734 --> 00:48:27,305 - Get out! - Get out?! 851 00:48:27,370 --> 00:48:28,972 Girl, who you think you're talkin' to? 852 00:48:29,238 --> 00:48:31,676 I'm talkin' to you-- I want you out of my house. 853 00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:33,644 Take all your stuff and get out. 854 00:48:33,709 --> 00:48:37,715 All I wanted was-- 855 00:48:37,779 --> 00:48:41,319 All I wanted was the truth. 856 00:48:41,383 --> 00:48:43,252 That's all. 857 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,259 I don't need this! 858 00:49:12,611 --> 00:49:15,383 Hello. 859 00:49:15,447 --> 00:49:17,784 Is Joy White there? 860 00:50:02,890 --> 00:50:05,729 Thanks. 861 00:50:20,607 --> 00:50:22,811 Baby. 862 00:50:26,379 --> 00:50:29,551 It's you. 863 00:50:29,615 --> 00:50:31,785 Here, let me get a hug. 864 00:50:35,955 --> 00:50:37,892 You must be Maya. 865 00:50:37,957 --> 00:50:40,861 Ohh... 866 00:50:53,070 --> 00:50:55,942 Carlina, this is your Aunt Lisa. 867 00:50:56,006 --> 00:50:58,076 She's been crying all day. 868 00:50:58,341 --> 00:51:00,678 And this is your auntie and your uncle. 869 00:51:00,743 --> 00:51:03,415 There's your cousin back there. 870 00:51:04,647 --> 00:51:07,686 This is your half-sister Tina. 871 00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:09,887 And this is your half-brother Trey. 872 00:51:09,952 --> 00:51:11,855 How y'all doin', everybody? 873 00:51:11,921 --> 00:51:13,823 This is my daughter, Maya. 874 00:51:13,889 --> 00:51:17,095 Praise be to God! 875 00:51:17,359 --> 00:51:19,061 Welcome home, child! 876 00:51:19,127 --> 00:51:21,464 I'm your Grandmother Elizabeth. 877 00:51:21,530 --> 00:51:23,099 Thank you, Grandmother. 878 00:51:28,569 --> 00:51:30,572 Let us pray. 879 00:51:36,476 --> 00:51:38,446 Heavenly Father, 880 00:51:38,512 --> 00:51:42,686 You are a mystery we cannot comprehend. 881 00:51:42,749 --> 00:51:45,386 None of us know why we are meant to suffer, 882 00:51:45,451 --> 00:51:47,789 but we do believe in Your infinite wisdom. 883 00:51:47,854 --> 00:51:51,961 There is always a reason and a purpose. 884 00:51:52,025 --> 00:51:55,698 We hope that one day you will reveal it. 885 00:51:55,761 --> 00:51:57,764 And we pray that one day 886 00:51:57,829 --> 00:52:00,167 we will forgive those that took Carlina away. 887 00:52:01,533 --> 00:52:03,770 Most of all, we thank you 888 00:52:03,834 --> 00:52:06,640 for returning our lost daughters to us. 889 00:52:06,704 --> 00:52:08,908 Amen. - Amen. 890 00:52:08,973 --> 00:52:12,145 Amen. 891 00:52:16,513 --> 00:52:18,048 We didn't know what you'd like, 892 00:52:18,114 --> 00:52:20,686 so we made you macaroni and cheese, and... 893 00:52:20,751 --> 00:52:22,955 curry chicken 894 00:52:23,019 --> 00:52:25,690 and lasagna and ox-tail soup. 895 00:52:28,058 --> 00:52:29,860 And that's just to start. 896 00:52:49,010 --> 00:52:51,681 You got your daddy's eyes. 897 00:52:51,745 --> 00:52:53,515 And I love music. 898 00:52:53,581 --> 00:52:56,687 That's because I used to sing to you when you were a baby. 899 00:52:56,750 --> 00:52:59,722 I'm a neat freak-- I clean all the time. 900 00:52:59,787 --> 00:53:01,756 I know where she got that from. 901 00:53:01,822 --> 00:53:04,826 I wish you would have gotten some of the same from me, too. 902 00:53:06,459 --> 00:53:08,529 Was the woman who snatched you a neat freak? 903 00:53:08,595 --> 00:53:10,565 Not like me and Joy. 904 00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:13,668 Is it true that the news said you grew up on welfare? 905 00:53:13,732 --> 00:53:15,068 - Tina! - And drugs... 906 00:53:15,134 --> 00:53:17,505 They said the woman who raised you was on drugs. 907 00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:19,706 - That's enough! - I just want to know 908 00:53:19,771 --> 00:53:22,208 about her life. - It's okay. 909 00:53:22,473 --> 00:53:25,111 The house I grew up in was nothin' like this. 910 00:53:25,176 --> 00:53:29,784 And the woman that took me is nothin' like Joy. 911 00:53:29,847 --> 00:53:33,521 But you can't believe everything you hear on the news. 912 00:53:38,055 --> 00:53:41,194 Where'd you learn how to do hair like this? 913 00:53:41,258 --> 00:53:44,162 When I was 6, this Christmas, 914 00:53:44,227 --> 00:53:47,232 my mom got me a doll. - Your mom? 915 00:53:53,736 --> 00:53:55,840 Styling's a good skill to have. 916 00:53:55,904 --> 00:53:57,507 I know. 917 00:53:57,573 --> 00:54:00,010 I just started working at this hair salon part-time 918 00:54:00,075 --> 00:54:02,646 I know I'll always be able to make money as a stylist. 919 00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:05,014 People will spend their rent money on their hair. 920 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,986 But what are you thinking about college? 921 00:54:09,049 --> 00:54:12,523 I don't know yet. 922 00:54:12,586 --> 00:54:15,124 Carlina... 923 00:54:15,189 --> 00:54:17,726 we may not have the past together, 924 00:54:17,791 --> 00:54:20,162 but we will have a future. 925 00:54:23,664 --> 00:54:26,035 Are you mad at Ann Pettway? 926 00:54:26,099 --> 00:54:29,038 - What do you think? - Was she mean? 927 00:54:29,102 --> 00:54:31,973 Was she scary-- what was she like? 928 00:54:32,037 --> 00:54:34,776 She had two sides. 929 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,677 One time she got so mad at me 930 00:54:36,742 --> 00:54:39,279 that she hit me in the face with a shoe. 931 00:54:39,544 --> 00:54:41,614 Then she felt so bad she figured out a way 932 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,117 to sneak me and all my friends into the movies. 933 00:54:44,182 --> 00:54:47,154 Wow... a shoe? 934 00:54:49,821 --> 00:54:51,890 What was it like for you, growing up here? 935 00:54:51,956 --> 00:54:54,025 Wasn't perfect. 936 00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:58,098 Ma was always worried something would happen to me or Trey. 937 00:54:58,161 --> 00:55:01,634 We didn't have much freedom. 938 00:55:01,698 --> 00:55:04,036 You know, she cried a lot for you. 939 00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:06,705 I'm sorry. 940 00:55:06,769 --> 00:55:08,739 Yeah, well, she's happy now, 941 00:55:08,805 --> 00:55:11,644 so even if the DNA doesn't match, 942 00:55:11,708 --> 00:55:15,014 can you still come visit? 943 00:55:15,077 --> 00:55:17,781 Just you being here gives her hope. 944 00:55:22,684 --> 00:55:24,153 Hey, it's me. 945 00:55:24,219 --> 00:55:26,690 What took you so long to call? 946 00:55:26,754 --> 00:55:28,591 We had a big family dinner. 947 00:55:28,656 --> 00:55:31,728 - Is DNA back? - They're my parents--I know it. 948 00:55:31,792 --> 00:55:36,200 Kinda feels like home. - That's great. 949 00:55:36,263 --> 00:55:38,300 Why don't you sound happy for me? 950 00:55:38,365 --> 00:55:41,838 Netty, just don't forget who you are. 951 00:55:41,901 --> 00:55:45,040 Okay? 952 00:56:01,854 --> 00:56:03,856 - Hey! - You're late. 953 00:56:03,922 --> 00:56:05,991 You were supposed to be here an hour ago. 954 00:56:06,056 --> 00:56:08,729 Sorry, I got held up at work. 955 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,637 What? 956 00:56:18,702 --> 00:56:20,872 Do I have somethin' on my face or somethin'? 957 00:56:20,937 --> 00:56:23,007 Nah. 958 00:56:23,072 --> 00:56:25,778 You don't understand what me and your mother went through. 959 00:56:25,842 --> 00:56:29,648 Just seeing you standing here... 960 00:56:31,647 --> 00:56:35,053 So... if you could do anything today, 961 00:56:35,117 --> 00:56:37,354 what would you do? 962 00:56:37,419 --> 00:56:40,792 I'd like to do a girl thing, like get my hair done, 963 00:56:40,855 --> 00:56:43,694 but... - But what? 964 00:56:43,758 --> 00:56:45,227 I'll take you. 965 00:56:45,293 --> 00:56:47,665 - Might feel strange having a man come with me. 966 00:56:47,729 --> 00:56:51,001 Well, I ain't a man-- I'm your dad. 967 00:56:51,065 --> 00:56:53,436 - Papers haven't come back yet. - You giving me attitude? 968 00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:56,740 Sorry. 969 00:56:56,804 --> 00:56:59,743 I've never had a father before. 970 00:57:33,236 --> 00:57:34,740 It's positive. 971 00:57:34,805 --> 00:57:36,307 It's positive? 972 00:57:36,373 --> 00:57:38,778 Thank you, God. 973 00:57:38,843 --> 00:57:42,249 - Mmm! - Mmm! 974 00:57:42,312 --> 00:57:45,718 - It's a miracle! - I knew it. 975 00:57:45,782 --> 00:57:48,219 I knew it... from the first time I saw that picture. 976 00:57:48,284 --> 00:57:50,321 Oh, the phone's been ringin' off the hook. 977 00:57:50,386 --> 00:57:54,260 The press is comin' by tomorrow to interview us here. 978 00:57:54,323 --> 00:57:57,061 It's official now, Maya. 979 00:57:57,125 --> 00:57:58,728 You can call me "Grandma." 980 00:57:58,794 --> 00:58:00,998 Just like Grandma Ann? 981 00:58:06,868 --> 00:58:08,871 Aw, come here! 982 00:58:08,936 --> 00:58:12,242 - Mmm! - Mmm! 983 00:58:12,306 --> 00:58:14,944 We can come down to Atlanta next weekend 984 00:58:15,009 --> 00:58:17,179 and help you and Maya move up here. 985 00:58:25,085 --> 00:58:26,922 Carlina White, who was kidnapped 986 00:58:26,987 --> 00:58:29,257 from Harlem Hospital over 22 years ago 987 00:58:29,322 --> 00:58:31,024 solved her own kidnapping. 988 00:58:31,090 --> 00:58:33,093 She will be reunited with her biological parents-- 989 00:58:35,260 --> 00:58:38,499 --today in what is sure to be an emotional reunion. 990 00:58:38,764 --> 00:58:41,235 In local news, police say a propane explosion 991 00:58:41,299 --> 00:58:43,771 destroyed a suburban Charlotte house 992 00:58:43,835 --> 00:58:46,840 that killed a toddler and injured 17 other people. 993 00:58:46,905 --> 00:58:49,109 Investigators are on the scene now. 994 00:58:49,173 --> 00:58:51,310 In other news, Michelle Obama... 995 00:59:24,573 --> 00:59:26,242 I'm Special Agent Thompson. 996 00:59:26,307 --> 00:59:28,811 Thank you for coming in. - Happy to help out. 997 00:59:28,876 --> 00:59:31,114 It's the kind of case that haunts you even into retirement. 998 00:59:31,179 --> 00:59:33,349 Is there anything that didn't make it into this file? 999 00:59:33,414 --> 00:59:35,283 We interviewed just about anyone breathing 1000 00:59:35,348 --> 00:59:37,286 at Harlem Hospital that night-- a number of people 1001 00:59:37,350 --> 00:59:39,388 I.D another woman besides Pettway as the perp. 1002 00:59:39,453 --> 00:59:41,256 We tracked her down to Baltimore, 1003 00:59:41,321 --> 00:59:43,358 but couldn't pin it on her. - Your gut? 1004 00:59:43,423 --> 00:59:45,058 It's the woman who raised her. 1005 00:59:45,124 --> 00:59:47,294 I'm about to run into another conference--what's up? 1006 00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:48,930 Have you heard from Ann? 1007 00:59:48,995 --> 00:59:50,297 - No, why? - The police 1008 00:59:50,362 --> 00:59:52,133 came looking for here-- they say she disappeared. 1009 00:59:52,198 --> 00:59:55,036 She's not answering her phone--I'm worried. 1010 00:59:55,101 --> 00:59:57,505 Look the conference is about to start--I gotta go. 1011 01:00:25,195 --> 01:00:27,934 - Fill it up, please. - Yeah, sure. 1012 01:00:34,937 --> 01:00:36,874 Nope. 1013 01:00:36,939 --> 01:00:38,608 This one's declined. 1014 01:00:38,874 --> 01:00:40,877 Oh. 1015 01:00:44,579 --> 01:00:47,016 Try that one. - Okay. 1016 01:00:54,321 --> 01:00:56,024 Hunh-unh. 1017 01:00:56,089 --> 01:00:59,629 Sorry. 1018 01:00:59,893 --> 01:01:03,266 Can I pay another way? 1019 01:01:03,329 --> 01:01:04,900 Cash. 1020 01:01:07,534 --> 01:01:09,604 I got a computer in the-- 1021 01:01:09,669 --> 01:01:13,442 --car. 1022 01:01:13,505 --> 01:01:15,575 Lady... 1023 01:01:15,641 --> 01:01:18,213 we don't take computers. 1024 01:01:18,277 --> 01:01:20,079 Mm-hmm? 1025 01:01:20,146 --> 01:01:22,450 Yeah. 1026 01:01:22,514 --> 01:01:25,252 All right. 1027 01:01:30,655 --> 01:01:32,625 ...23 years ago, 1028 01:01:32,690 --> 01:01:35,327 White has reunited with her biological parents. 1029 01:01:35,393 --> 01:01:38,331 Pettway is believed to be in the tri state area. 1030 01:01:48,938 --> 01:01:51,242 How do I feel? 1031 01:01:51,307 --> 01:01:54,446 I feel complete. 1032 01:01:54,510 --> 01:01:56,714 I've always dreamed about this. 1033 01:01:56,978 --> 01:01:59,316 Now after 23 years... 1034 01:01:59,380 --> 01:02:01,151 I can sleep. 1035 01:02:01,216 --> 01:02:03,955 Do you have anything to say to Ann Pettway? 1036 01:02:04,019 --> 01:02:05,621 I want her to suffer. 1037 01:02:05,687 --> 01:02:08,024 I want her to do time like I suffered 1038 01:02:08,089 --> 01:02:10,494 for 23 years. 1039 01:02:10,558 --> 01:02:13,129 Carl, you said before you didn't want to press charges. 1040 01:02:13,194 --> 01:02:14,563 Do you still feel that way, 1041 01:02:14,628 --> 01:02:16,431 or have your feelings changed over the years? 1042 01:02:16,496 --> 01:02:18,467 Well they have changed over the years, 1043 01:02:18,532 --> 01:02:21,036 but right about now, whatever the court decides, 1044 01:02:21,101 --> 01:02:23,171 that's all right with me. 1045 01:02:23,236 --> 01:02:25,306 I don't want to say too much about it, 1046 01:02:25,371 --> 01:02:28,343 because I got other things in my heart. 1047 01:02:28,407 --> 01:02:30,979 Can I get a shot of the three of you, please? 1048 01:02:31,044 --> 01:02:32,179 Sure. 1049 01:02:32,245 --> 01:02:34,147 Great. 1050 01:02:34,213 --> 01:02:36,551 How about a kiss on the cheek by both parents? 1051 01:02:38,583 --> 01:02:41,055 Nice, thank you. 1052 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,689 - All right, thanks. - Carlina, 1053 01:02:42,754 --> 01:02:45,024 do you have anything to say about Ann Pettway? 1054 01:02:45,089 --> 01:02:47,694 Is it true she was drug-addicted and abusive? 1055 01:02:51,195 --> 01:02:53,098 When I look at Joy White, 1056 01:02:53,164 --> 01:02:55,201 I see me. 1057 01:02:55,266 --> 01:02:57,403 With Ann, my mother, 1058 01:02:57,468 --> 01:03:00,005 the other lady-- I don't know what to call her-- 1059 01:03:00,070 --> 01:03:02,642 I would always be searching for things we had in common, 1060 01:03:02,706 --> 01:03:05,343 but we had nothing in common. 1061 01:03:05,408 --> 01:03:07,378 All right, no more questions-- we gotta go. 1062 01:03:07,443 --> 01:03:09,514 Thanks--thank you-- excuse me. 1063 01:03:09,579 --> 01:03:11,683 Hey. 1064 01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:18,291 Can you believe this? 1065 01:03:18,354 --> 01:03:21,693 Oh, God is so good. 1066 01:03:21,757 --> 01:03:24,462 Hello? 1067 01:03:24,526 --> 01:03:26,630 Hello? 1068 01:03:28,529 --> 01:03:30,332 So what do you think, Carlina? 1069 01:03:30,398 --> 01:03:32,702 She wants to fly us to Chicago and everything. 1070 01:03:32,767 --> 01:03:35,372 I don't feel like sittin' on Oprah's couch for an hour 1071 01:03:35,436 --> 01:03:37,071 talkin' about Ann. 1072 01:03:39,106 --> 01:03:40,541 What's wrong? 1073 01:03:40,607 --> 01:03:43,612 Cassandra's flippin' out, and Ann's missing. 1074 01:03:43,677 --> 01:03:46,214 You don't have to worry about them anymore. 1075 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,049 They're not your family, Carlina. 1076 01:03:51,550 --> 01:03:54,622 I know it's you-- say something! 1077 01:03:57,256 --> 01:04:00,294 - I know this looks bad. - You stole my life! 1078 01:04:00,358 --> 01:04:01,694 Is that her--is that Ann? 1079 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,598 Just give her a minute-- it's okay. 1080 01:04:04,662 --> 01:04:07,300 Look, just give me a minute, and I'm-a straighten this out. 1081 01:04:07,365 --> 01:04:09,235 I'm-a straighten it out, okay? 1082 01:04:09,301 --> 01:04:11,070 Either you did it or you didn't. 1083 01:04:11,135 --> 01:04:13,573 You never take responsibility for anything! 1084 01:04:13,638 --> 01:04:17,711 Netty! 1085 01:04:28,318 --> 01:04:30,188 Federal Bureau of Investigation, 1086 01:04:30,253 --> 01:04:32,423 How can I help you? 1087 01:04:40,429 --> 01:04:42,733 My name is Ann Pettway. 1088 01:04:42,797 --> 01:04:44,400 I'm here to straighten out this mess. 1089 01:04:44,466 --> 01:04:46,403 Where's your boss? 1090 01:04:51,405 --> 01:04:53,509 Tell me what happened. 1091 01:04:59,513 --> 01:05:03,219 There was this girl, 1092 01:05:03,283 --> 01:05:05,620 and she loved dolls-- 1093 01:05:08,255 --> 01:05:12,596 - --all kind of dolls, 1094 01:05:12,658 --> 01:05:16,767 but she got tired of these dolls because... 1095 01:05:16,829 --> 01:05:18,865 they couldn't walk. 1096 01:05:19,131 --> 01:05:21,468 They couldn't talk. 1097 01:05:21,533 --> 01:05:23,770 They couldn't love her back. 1098 01:05:23,835 --> 01:05:27,441 So she got pregnant... 1099 01:05:27,505 --> 01:05:29,275 three times. 1100 01:05:31,675 --> 01:05:34,815 And every time the baby died. 1101 01:05:38,181 --> 01:05:40,419 And that wasn't fair, was it? 1102 01:05:45,555 --> 01:05:47,626 Was it? 1103 01:05:47,691 --> 01:05:50,463 No. 1104 01:05:50,527 --> 01:05:52,497 It wasn't fair. 1105 01:05:57,167 --> 01:06:00,205 She just wanted somebody to love her back. 1106 01:06:02,338 --> 01:06:04,375 Ann Pettway, you're under arrest 1107 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,512 for the kidnapping of Carlina Renae White. 1108 01:06:14,349 --> 01:06:16,252 Will you tell my daughter now? 1109 01:06:22,890 --> 01:06:25,895 Why don't we get a mani-pedi? 1110 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,531 I think it's time to go home. 1111 01:06:28,595 --> 01:06:30,967 Ok, let's go home. 1112 01:06:31,231 --> 01:06:33,536 No, I mean back home to Atlanta. 1113 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,505 No, don't--you-- 1114 01:06:36,570 --> 01:06:38,406 Am I being too pushy? 1115 01:06:38,471 --> 01:06:40,241 No! No, it's not that. 1116 01:06:40,306 --> 01:06:42,343 I appreciate all of this, really I do. 1117 01:06:43,843 --> 01:06:46,448 A reporter told me about the trust fund, 1118 01:06:46,512 --> 01:06:48,248 and I was hoping to take that money, 1119 01:06:48,313 --> 01:06:49,849 close out my life in Atlanta, 1120 01:06:49,915 --> 01:06:51,885 and--I don't know-- 1121 01:06:51,951 --> 01:06:53,787 maybe get a place up here. 1122 01:06:53,853 --> 01:06:56,691 That way I'd be closer. 1123 01:06:56,754 --> 01:06:58,425 Carlina... 1124 01:06:58,490 --> 01:07:00,360 What? 1125 01:07:04,762 --> 01:07:07,734 The trust fund dissolved when you were 21. 1126 01:07:07,798 --> 01:07:09,301 What happened to it? 1127 01:07:09,367 --> 01:07:11,971 We needed that money. 1128 01:07:12,235 --> 01:07:15,407 Were you ever gonna tell me? 1129 01:07:15,472 --> 01:07:17,409 I'm sorry, Carlina. 1130 01:07:17,474 --> 01:07:19,010 I-- 1131 01:07:20,843 --> 01:07:22,880 Hey, Carlina, do you have a quote? 1132 01:07:22,945 --> 01:07:24,982 Carlina White! Carlina! 1133 01:07:25,247 --> 01:07:27,250 Ann Pettway turned herself in--any thoughts? 1134 01:07:27,316 --> 01:07:29,653 Do you have anything to say to Ann Pettway? 1135 01:07:29,718 --> 01:07:32,290 - No comment. - How was the reunion? 1136 01:07:32,354 --> 01:07:34,558 We want to hear your side of the story! 1137 01:07:36,024 --> 01:07:39,664 Auntie! 1138 01:07:39,728 --> 01:07:42,833 Hey, pretty girl! 1139 01:07:42,898 --> 01:07:44,900 Did you miss me? - Mm-hmm. 1140 01:07:44,965 --> 01:07:47,303 Could you come to New York with us next time? 1141 01:07:47,368 --> 01:07:48,870 - W-- - Maya, 1142 01:07:48,936 --> 01:07:51,908 go put your stuff in your room-- I'll be there in a minute. 1143 01:07:51,972 --> 01:07:53,774 - 'kay. - Netty: 'kay. 1144 01:07:56,510 --> 01:07:58,780 - So you heard the news? 1145 01:07:58,845 --> 01:08:00,548 - I saw it on TV. 1146 01:08:00,614 --> 01:08:02,350 Her lawyers want to meet with you 1147 01:08:02,415 --> 01:08:04,051 so they can discuss strategy. 1148 01:08:04,316 --> 01:08:06,721 I can't. 1149 01:08:06,785 --> 01:08:08,788 You can and you will. 1150 01:08:08,854 --> 01:08:11,659 She's family. 1151 01:08:11,723 --> 01:08:13,026 Netty, you hear me? 1152 01:08:13,291 --> 01:08:15,495 You can't leave her hangin'. - Look, 1153 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,732 I'm goin' by Carlina now. - You're Netty to me. 1154 01:08:18,796 --> 01:08:21,735 - But my name is Carlina. - Your name is Nejdra. 1155 01:08:21,799 --> 01:08:23,936 Not according to my birth certificate. 1156 01:08:33,944 --> 01:08:36,449 - Rise and shine! - Stop bangin'! 1157 01:08:36,513 --> 01:08:39,585 Rise and shine! 1158 01:08:46,054 --> 01:08:48,058 Pettway. 1159 01:09:37,035 --> 01:09:38,905 You gotta make her. 1160 01:09:38,970 --> 01:09:41,040 If they convict me, it's 25 to life. 1161 01:09:41,105 --> 01:09:43,577 She don't wanna testify, and she don't wanna see you. 1162 01:09:43,641 --> 01:09:45,378 You gotta make her! 1163 01:09:45,443 --> 01:09:47,613 I can't keep cleanin' up after you where Netty's concerned. 1164 01:09:47,678 --> 01:09:50,015 She's her own person. - Cassie... 1165 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,052 Ann, you took that child's life from her, 1166 01:09:53,116 --> 01:09:56,656 then you kept her in the dark about her family for years. 1167 01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,425 You had plenty of opportunity to make this right, 1168 01:09:59,489 --> 01:10:02,494 but you didn't. 1169 01:10:02,559 --> 01:10:04,896 What am I supposed to do now? 1170 01:10:34,488 --> 01:10:37,594 That woman took everything from us. 1171 01:10:37,657 --> 01:10:39,762 All rise. 1172 01:10:46,866 --> 01:10:49,905 How does the defendant plead? 1173 01:10:49,968 --> 01:10:52,874 My client pleads "not guilty," Your Honor. 1174 01:10:52,938 --> 01:10:55,709 - Not guilty?! What? 1175 01:11:10,454 --> 01:11:12,624 "Dear Nejdra, 1176 01:11:12,689 --> 01:11:15,595 "I think of you every day. 1177 01:11:15,659 --> 01:11:19,699 "I miss you and Maya so much it makes me want to cry. 1178 01:11:19,762 --> 01:11:22,634 "I hope I see you soon. 1179 01:11:22,698 --> 01:11:25,136 Love, your mother." 1180 01:11:28,137 --> 01:11:30,508 Has she returned any of your calls? 1181 01:11:30,572 --> 01:11:32,075 I've left five messages. 1182 01:11:32,141 --> 01:11:34,010 Carl, we can't lose her this time--we can't. 1183 01:11:34,076 --> 01:11:36,045 Now that's enough, all right, excuse me. 1184 01:11:36,111 --> 01:11:38,081 What will you do in the future? 1185 01:11:38,146 --> 01:11:40,618 Joy? Joy! Give us a statement, please. 1186 01:11:40,682 --> 01:11:43,086 Hi, Carlina, it's your mom. 1187 01:11:43,151 --> 01:11:46,724 I can't believe I can actually say that to you now. 1188 01:11:46,787 --> 01:11:49,626 Listen, I tried to call you the other day 1189 01:11:49,690 --> 01:11:51,092 and never heard back. 1190 01:11:51,158 --> 01:11:53,997 I tried texting you, never heard back. 1191 01:11:54,061 --> 01:11:55,898 Carlina, please call me and your father. 1192 01:11:55,963 --> 01:11:58,100 We need to hear from you. 1193 01:12:24,255 --> 01:12:26,994 Now I am happy 1194 01:12:27,057 --> 01:12:29,629 my daughter came back to me, 1195 01:12:29,694 --> 01:12:32,165 The problem we're having right now is just... 1196 01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:34,967 it's hard for her to cope with us. 1197 01:12:35,031 --> 01:12:37,569 She hasn't been with us for 23 years. 1198 01:12:37,634 --> 01:12:40,138 Is there anything you'd like to say to Carlina? 1199 01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:45,776 I love you. 1200 01:12:45,841 --> 01:12:48,213 I want you to come back. 1201 01:12:48,277 --> 01:12:51,182 Give us a chance. 1202 01:12:51,246 --> 01:12:54,251 Let's make-- make up for lost time. 1203 01:12:54,316 --> 01:12:57,121 I was on such a high when I was first reunited 1204 01:12:57,186 --> 01:12:59,088 with my daughter. 1205 01:12:59,154 --> 01:13:01,925 You couldn't tell me nothin' you know? 1206 01:13:01,990 --> 01:13:04,595 I was floatin' on air. 1207 01:13:04,659 --> 01:13:07,196 That was a great moment. 1208 01:13:07,261 --> 01:13:09,698 And then one day after telling her story 1209 01:13:09,763 --> 01:13:11,800 to "The New York Post," 1210 01:13:11,865 --> 01:13:14,302 she changed. 1211 01:13:14,568 --> 01:13:16,605 In just that day. 1212 01:13:16,670 --> 01:13:19,041 I think it had a lot to do with the Pettway family. 1213 01:13:19,105 --> 01:13:22,745 She asked a lot of questions about the money-- 1214 01:13:22,808 --> 01:13:24,679 the trust fund 1215 01:13:24,744 --> 01:13:27,048 and the 10,000 reward. 1216 01:13:27,112 --> 01:13:28,916 That money's gone. 1217 01:13:28,981 --> 01:13:31,853 It really hurts because it's about money. 1218 01:13:31,918 --> 01:13:35,591 She won't return my calls. 1219 01:13:48,165 --> 01:13:50,370 I'd like to change my phone number. 1220 01:13:54,939 --> 01:13:57,310 Where's Grandpa Carl? 1221 01:13:57,374 --> 01:13:59,277 He's in New York. 1222 01:13:59,342 --> 01:14:01,613 Where's Grandma Joy? 1223 01:14:01,678 --> 01:14:03,180 She's in New York, too. 1224 01:14:03,246 --> 01:14:05,283 Can we visit her soon? 1225 01:14:05,347 --> 01:14:08,053 I don't know. 1226 01:14:08,117 --> 01:14:10,054 Where's Grandma Ann? 1227 01:14:10,119 --> 01:14:11,955 What's with all the questions? 1228 01:14:12,020 --> 01:14:14,224 Where's Grandma Ann? 1229 01:14:14,289 --> 01:14:16,059 She went away. 1230 01:14:16,124 --> 01:14:17,894 Is she mad at me? 1231 01:14:20,361 --> 01:14:22,999 No, baby, she's not mad at you. 1232 01:14:23,064 --> 01:14:25,969 Sometimes people do bad things. 1233 01:14:26,033 --> 01:14:28,838 When they get caught, they have to go away. 1234 01:14:28,903 --> 01:14:31,942 Did she say she was sorry? 1235 01:14:32,006 --> 01:14:33,808 When I do something bad, 1236 01:14:33,873 --> 01:14:36,879 I say sorry, and you give me a hug. 1237 01:14:42,082 --> 01:14:45,421 Ms. Johnson, 1238 01:14:45,684 --> 01:14:47,789 What is your relationship to the defendant? 1239 01:14:47,853 --> 01:14:50,057 Ann Pettway is my sister. 1240 01:14:50,122 --> 01:14:54,029 What you're saying she did was despicable, 1241 01:14:54,093 --> 01:14:57,332 but I love my sister. 1242 01:14:57,395 --> 01:14:59,767 She's not perfect. 1243 01:14:59,831 --> 01:15:02,803 She's deeply flawed. 1244 01:15:02,867 --> 01:15:05,438 But she loves Netty 1245 01:15:05,703 --> 01:15:07,974 Ann is a good mother. 1246 01:15:10,074 --> 01:15:13,780 Ann Pettway knows she caused a lot of pain. 1247 01:15:13,844 --> 01:15:16,348 She'd had several miscarriages, 1248 01:15:16,412 --> 01:15:19,987 and she never believed she'd be able to be a parent. 1249 01:15:20,050 --> 01:15:23,856 So in my opinion, she did kidnap Carlina White, 1250 01:15:23,919 --> 01:15:27,861 and she as much as confessed to it in my office. 1251 01:15:46,707 --> 01:15:48,744 Get up. 1252 01:15:51,145 --> 01:15:52,915 Get up now. 1253 01:15:55,349 --> 01:15:58,888 What happened to your phone? 1254 01:15:58,951 --> 01:16:01,324 I disconnected it. 1255 01:16:01,388 --> 01:16:03,925 Needed to just drop out. 1256 01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:06,260 Well, you need to drop back in. 1257 01:16:06,325 --> 01:16:08,930 Why--so I can help Ann? 1258 01:16:08,995 --> 01:16:11,099 Because you have a life to live. 1259 01:16:11,164 --> 01:16:12,833 Whose life am I livin'? 1260 01:16:12,898 --> 01:16:14,468 Joy's? 1261 01:16:14,733 --> 01:16:16,168 Ann's? Yours? 1262 01:16:16,234 --> 01:16:18,438 If I spend time with Joy, I'm betrayin' you. 1263 01:16:18,503 --> 01:16:21,008 If I spend time with you and we talk about Ann, 1264 01:16:21,073 --> 01:16:23,444 I'm betrayin' Joy. 1265 01:16:30,247 --> 01:16:34,021 Look, I know this has been hard on you. 1266 01:16:34,085 --> 01:16:36,956 I know I helped make it hard on you. 1267 01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:40,761 Look, you can call yourself Carlina or Nejdra. 1268 01:16:40,824 --> 01:16:42,259 I don't care. 1269 01:16:42,325 --> 01:16:44,830 It doesn't matter to me what you call yourself. 1270 01:16:44,895 --> 01:16:46,797 Point is... 1271 01:16:46,862 --> 01:16:48,999 you gotta get up and get on with your life. 1272 01:16:49,064 --> 01:16:51,836 I just keep wonderin' what my life woulda been... 1273 01:16:54,336 --> 01:16:57,508 had I grown up with my real parents. 1274 01:16:57,772 --> 01:16:59,142 Okay. 1275 01:17:01,509 --> 01:17:03,513 But where do you go from here? 1276 01:17:22,495 --> 01:17:24,398 Mmm! 1277 01:17:27,434 --> 01:17:29,538 Thank you for comin'. 1278 01:17:36,841 --> 01:17:39,981 - About the money-- - Carlina... 1279 01:17:40,044 --> 01:17:44,052 Nobody told us to set up that trust fund. 1280 01:17:44,115 --> 01:17:46,419 We had it for 21 years, 1281 01:17:46,484 --> 01:17:48,521 and if I had to do it all over again, 1282 01:17:48,586 --> 01:17:50,389 I never would have spent it. 1283 01:17:50,455 --> 01:17:52,559 It's not about the money. 1284 01:17:52,823 --> 01:17:54,392 You could have told me. 1285 01:17:54,458 --> 01:17:56,195 But-- 1286 01:17:56,260 --> 01:17:58,464 I'm just tired of people keepin' things from me. 1287 01:18:01,431 --> 01:18:03,233 I'm sorry. 1288 01:18:05,835 --> 01:18:08,072 Why didn't you look harder? 1289 01:18:08,137 --> 01:18:09,940 Excuse me? 1290 01:18:10,006 --> 01:18:13,044 Anyone who knows me knows how much I want to find my parents. 1291 01:18:13,108 --> 01:18:15,413 I searched and searched for you. 1292 01:18:15,478 --> 01:18:17,280 Why didn't you look harder? 1293 01:18:17,345 --> 01:18:20,284 Carlina, you have no idea 1294 01:18:20,348 --> 01:18:22,986 how hard we looked. 1295 01:18:23,051 --> 01:18:25,020 I knocked on more doors-- 1296 01:18:25,085 --> 01:18:27,123 I passed out more flyers, 1297 01:18:27,188 --> 01:18:30,060 than you could have ever imagined. 1298 01:18:30,124 --> 01:18:33,430 We couldn't find you! 1299 01:18:33,494 --> 01:18:37,168 But... we never stopped looking. 1300 01:18:37,231 --> 01:18:39,267 Sorry. 1301 01:18:44,603 --> 01:18:48,611 There's been so much pain. 1302 01:18:50,876 --> 01:18:54,082 I just want you to be happy, Carlina. 1303 01:18:54,146 --> 01:18:56,517 But I'm just not ready. 1304 01:18:56,581 --> 01:18:58,651 I'm not ready to leave my whole life 1305 01:18:58,916 --> 01:19:01,889 and start over as Carlina White. 1306 01:19:05,289 --> 01:19:09,263 You know, for the past 23 years, 1307 01:19:09,327 --> 01:19:13,568 I've talked to you in my head... 1308 01:19:13,630 --> 01:19:16,903 and in my dreams. 1309 01:19:16,967 --> 01:19:20,373 All this time, you been a part of my life. 1310 01:19:22,372 --> 01:19:24,375 And you've only just found out about me. 1311 01:19:29,111 --> 01:19:32,016 We'll take it slow. 1312 01:20:16,522 --> 01:20:18,993 My name is Joy White, 1313 01:20:19,057 --> 01:20:20,692 and I'm here to see Ann Pettway. 1314 01:20:20,959 --> 01:20:23,630 - Does she know you're coming? - No. 1315 01:20:23,694 --> 01:20:26,132 Park over there-- we'll put you through security. 1316 01:20:54,056 --> 01:20:57,495 I could just slap that smile off your face. 1317 01:20:57,559 --> 01:20:59,629 Is that why you're here? 1318 01:20:59,694 --> 01:21:02,065 I came here 1319 01:21:02,130 --> 01:21:04,435 because I have to find a way to forgive you. 1320 01:21:11,372 --> 01:21:14,311 Why did you do it to me? 1321 01:21:14,375 --> 01:21:17,447 From over here, it don't look like nothin' been done to you. 1322 01:21:19,279 --> 01:21:21,449 What you so upset for? 1323 01:21:21,514 --> 01:21:22,649 You got her now. 1324 01:21:22,715 --> 01:21:25,687 I may have Carlina now, 1325 01:21:25,751 --> 01:21:29,091 but you stole 23 years of my life. 1326 01:21:29,155 --> 01:21:32,060 I wasn't there when Carlina took her first step. 1327 01:21:32,124 --> 01:21:34,394 I didn't get to see her go to the prom. 1328 01:21:34,460 --> 01:21:38,301 I wasn't there when she had my grandbaby. 1329 01:21:38,364 --> 01:21:41,068 Those are moments I'll never have. 1330 01:21:41,132 --> 01:21:43,503 - I lost three babies. - I lost a child! 1331 01:21:43,567 --> 01:21:45,738 I didn't go around stealin' nobody's babies! 1332 01:21:45,804 --> 01:21:47,740 See, that's what I'm sayin'-- you lost one. 1333 01:21:47,805 --> 01:21:50,544 I lost three-- I heard you got two more now. 1334 01:21:50,608 --> 01:21:53,079 They told me I couldn't have none. 1335 01:21:53,143 --> 01:21:56,048 - That's no excuse! - I needed that child, okay? 1336 01:22:02,319 --> 01:22:05,157 I saw y'all on TV, 1337 01:22:05,221 --> 01:22:07,826 and I thought about givin' her back. 1338 01:22:08,090 --> 01:22:10,462 But then Netty would look up at me. 1339 01:22:13,496 --> 01:22:16,335 People started sayin' we looked alike. 1340 01:22:16,399 --> 01:22:18,736 They even called her "Little Ann." 1341 01:22:20,668 --> 01:22:23,173 Every day, she became more and more mine. 1342 01:22:23,238 --> 01:22:24,740 She wasn't yours-- she was mine! 1343 01:22:24,805 --> 01:22:28,547 I fed her! 1344 01:22:28,609 --> 01:22:30,446 I clothed her! 1345 01:22:30,512 --> 01:22:32,214 I taught her right from wrong! 1346 01:22:32,279 --> 01:22:34,683 That little girl who you paradin' around 1347 01:22:34,748 --> 01:22:37,086 on TV and everything-- 1348 01:22:37,151 --> 01:22:39,522 I did that! 1349 01:22:42,321 --> 01:22:44,259 You should be thankin' me. 1350 01:22:44,323 --> 01:22:46,394 - I should be thankin' you? - Thank me! 1351 01:22:46,459 --> 01:22:49,131 It's takin' all I got not to jump across this table 1352 01:22:49,195 --> 01:22:52,266 and kill you. 1353 01:22:56,568 --> 01:22:59,440 I know you hate me. 1354 01:22:59,504 --> 01:23:01,708 And I know, somebody like you, 1355 01:23:01,773 --> 01:23:04,478 you'll never understand this. 1356 01:23:04,543 --> 01:23:06,279 Somebody like you, you know-- 1357 01:23:06,343 --> 01:23:10,285 --you got a lot of love in your life. 1358 01:23:10,347 --> 01:23:12,752 Me... 1359 01:23:12,816 --> 01:23:15,521 I been lovin' people and lovin' people 1360 01:23:15,586 --> 01:23:17,723 and doin' for people... 1361 01:23:19,656 --> 01:23:21,659 It's one thing to love somebody, 1362 01:23:21,724 --> 01:23:24,563 but it's another thing for somebody to love you back. 1363 01:23:27,764 --> 01:23:31,504 Netty loved me back. 1364 01:23:33,535 --> 01:23:36,908 I ain't ever felt that before. 1365 01:23:46,214 --> 01:23:49,386 You could have taken any other child in that nursery. 1366 01:23:51,352 --> 01:23:53,856 Why'd you take mine? 1367 01:23:53,921 --> 01:23:56,258 Was it 'cause I was young? 1368 01:23:56,323 --> 01:23:58,895 It didn't' have nothin' to do with you, Ms. White. 1369 01:23:59,159 --> 01:24:01,229 It had everything to do with me! 1370 01:24:01,295 --> 01:24:03,666 It had everything to do with me! 1371 01:24:19,245 --> 01:24:22,284 On August 4, 1987... 1372 01:24:25,518 --> 01:24:27,388 I went to Harlem Hospital. 1373 01:24:30,288 --> 01:24:31,758 I took a child. 1374 01:24:34,225 --> 01:24:35,929 I got back on the train, 1375 01:24:36,194 --> 01:24:38,231 I went back home, 1376 01:24:38,296 --> 01:24:40,767 And I raised her as my own. 1377 01:24:44,201 --> 01:24:46,204 I knew it was wrong. 1378 01:24:58,681 --> 01:24:59,984 Ann Pettway. 1379 01:25:03,486 --> 01:25:06,992 You've pleaded guilty to one count of kidnapping. 1380 01:25:08,824 --> 01:25:11,295 In light of your confession, 1381 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,532 the court hereby sentences you to 12 years in prison. 1382 01:25:30,977 --> 01:25:32,781 That's it? 1383 01:25:32,846 --> 01:25:34,715 That's what our suffering's worth? 1384 01:25:34,780 --> 01:25:36,551 I thought it was a mandatory life sentence. 1385 01:25:36,616 --> 01:25:38,353 She plea bargained. 1386 01:25:38,418 --> 01:25:40,688 I lost you, I lost my family-- 1387 01:25:40,753 --> 01:25:42,355 I lost everything. 1388 01:25:42,422 --> 01:25:43,924 We gotta appeal this. 1389 01:25:43,989 --> 01:25:46,661 We just gotta live with it. 1390 01:25:46,725 --> 01:25:49,730 All of it. 1391 01:25:49,794 --> 01:25:51,932 I have a few questions for you, Carlina. 1392 01:25:51,996 --> 01:25:54,736 Or would you prefer I called you Nejdra? 1393 01:25:54,799 --> 01:25:57,805 Or Netty? 1394 01:25:57,869 --> 01:26:00,573 I'm not Nejdra. 1395 01:26:00,638 --> 01:26:02,408 That's the name that was forced on me. 1396 01:26:05,543 --> 01:26:07,980 I'm not Carlina. 1397 01:26:08,045 --> 01:26:10,784 That's the name that was taken from me. 1398 01:26:19,455 --> 01:26:20,925 My name is Netty 1399 01:26:25,027 --> 01:26:27,499 That's the name that feels more like me... 1400 01:26:35,737 --> 01:26:38,609 ...the name that feels most like home. 1401 01:26:58,557 --> 01:27:00,930 Grandma! 1402 01:29:11,713 --> 01:29:13,716 It's a story of grief... 1403 01:29:13,782 --> 01:29:16,119 Will you please bring my baby back, please? 1404 01:29:18,453 --> 01:29:21,692 ...and longing... 1405 01:29:21,756 --> 01:29:24,427 Carlina would always be on my mind every day. 1406 01:29:24,491 --> 01:29:26,429 ...betrayal... 1407 01:29:26,493 --> 01:29:28,598 Where did you get me from? 1408 01:29:28,662 --> 01:29:32,101 She destroyed my life and my family. 1409 01:29:32,165 --> 01:29:34,202 ...and discovery. 1410 01:29:34,267 --> 01:29:36,537 Now to an unbelievable reunion... 1411 01:29:36,603 --> 01:29:38,473 She made this happen herself. 1412 01:29:38,538 --> 01:29:40,842 She's the hero in this. 1413 01:29:40,907 --> 01:29:43,545 I got my answers now to things that happened in my life. 1414 01:29:43,610 --> 01:29:46,314 But Carlina White's newfound family 1415 01:29:46,378 --> 01:29:50,052 faced some hard realities. 1416 01:29:50,116 --> 01:29:52,587 Everything happened too fast, 1417 01:29:52,651 --> 01:29:55,355 and we're all strangers to each other. 1418 01:29:55,421 --> 01:29:57,691 It's hard to build a relationship 1419 01:29:57,756 --> 01:30:00,026 with someone that you don't even know. 1420 01:30:00,091 --> 01:30:03,263 These stories aren't always happy-ever-after. 1421 01:30:03,328 --> 01:30:05,532 They take time. 1422 01:30:05,596 --> 01:30:08,233 Now, for the first time on television, 1423 01:30:08,298 --> 01:30:10,502 Carlina, her birth parents, 1424 01:30:10,567 --> 01:30:14,041 and the family that raised her tell the true story 1425 01:30:14,104 --> 01:30:17,610 behind a reunion that captivated the world. 1426 01:30:28,550 --> 01:30:30,721 In January 2011, 1427 01:30:30,786 --> 01:30:33,157 an assistant in a hair salon near Atlanta 1428 01:30:33,221 --> 01:30:36,493 discovered she was really Carlina White, 1429 01:30:36,557 --> 01:30:39,163 abducted as an infant from Harlem Hospital 1430 01:30:39,227 --> 01:30:43,200 23 years earlier. 1431 01:30:43,263 --> 01:30:45,636 But though she had found her true family, 1432 01:30:45,700 --> 01:30:47,235 in the months afterward, 1433 01:30:47,301 --> 01:30:50,607 she still had not made her way home. 1434 01:30:50,671 --> 01:30:52,574 I still have that family 1435 01:30:52,639 --> 01:30:54,709 that don't really know me. 1436 01:30:54,774 --> 01:30:56,879 I was brought up differently, 1437 01:30:56,943 --> 01:31:00,449 and I'm an adult as well so it's like, 1438 01:31:00,513 --> 01:31:02,717 it's gonna take a little bit more time. 1439 01:31:02,781 --> 01:31:05,487 She have the family that she was brought up with, 1440 01:31:05,551 --> 01:31:06,920 and she don't know me, 1441 01:31:06,986 --> 01:31:09,423 she don't know, you know, her real mom. 1442 01:31:09,488 --> 01:31:11,525 This is not easy. 1443 01:31:11,589 --> 01:31:16,065 You don't just wipe out 23 years of history and-- 1444 01:31:16,128 --> 01:31:19,767 and have everything revert to where it was, uh, 1445 01:31:19,831 --> 01:31:22,001 on that day in 1987. 1446 01:31:30,974 --> 01:31:32,644 She was a sweet baby 1447 01:31:32,710 --> 01:31:35,214 in the time that I had with her. 1448 01:31:35,278 --> 01:31:39,352 Joy White was 16 years old in 1987, 1449 01:31:39,416 --> 01:31:41,286 when she found out she was pregnant 1450 01:31:41,351 --> 01:31:45,992 by her then-boyfriend, 22-year-old Carl Tyson. 1451 01:31:46,055 --> 01:31:47,490 We started talking about it. 1452 01:31:47,556 --> 01:31:49,493 She said she wanted to keep the baby, 1453 01:31:49,558 --> 01:31:51,428 then that's when we really had to sit down 1454 01:31:51,493 --> 01:31:53,597 and talk to our parents. 1455 01:31:53,662 --> 01:31:55,732 I had to explain to my mother, 1456 01:31:55,797 --> 01:31:58,067 you know, what was going on, and... 1457 01:31:58,132 --> 01:32:01,205 she was upset at first, but she was very supportive 1458 01:32:01,269 --> 01:32:03,806 throughout the whole thing. 1459 01:32:03,871 --> 01:32:05,474 It was a long pregnancy, 1460 01:32:05,540 --> 01:32:08,111 running two weeks past the due date. 1461 01:32:08,175 --> 01:32:11,581 By July 15th, Joy had had enough. 1462 01:32:11,644 --> 01:32:14,751 I got tired of being pregnant, so, uh, 1463 01:32:14,814 --> 01:32:16,317 what I did was I walked 1464 01:32:16,383 --> 01:32:19,087 all the way from 125th Street and Broadway, 1465 01:32:19,151 --> 01:32:21,489 and I walked down to 34th Street, 1466 01:32:21,555 --> 01:32:23,491 and then after that, I went into labor, 1467 01:32:23,556 --> 01:32:25,593 and I had her. 1468 01:32:27,226 --> 01:32:30,532 She named the baby Carlina Renae White. 1469 01:32:30,596 --> 01:32:32,433 The first name was for Carl, 1470 01:32:32,498 --> 01:32:34,902 the second was Joy's middle name. 1471 01:32:34,967 --> 01:32:36,469 That was a wonderful feeling. 1472 01:32:36,534 --> 01:32:38,604 Here was a little girl I was going to raise, 1473 01:32:38,669 --> 01:32:41,175 that I was gonna be able to take to the park. 1474 01:32:41,239 --> 01:32:43,610 Joy brought the baby home 1475 01:32:43,674 --> 01:32:45,545 to her mother's apartment in Harlem. 1476 01:32:45,610 --> 01:32:48,114 We all used to just stand and look at her. 1477 01:32:48,178 --> 01:32:50,950 You know how I'm talkin' about-- What a beautiful little girl. 1478 01:32:51,015 --> 01:32:53,719 Very pretty, always smiling, 1479 01:32:53,784 --> 01:32:55,921 but she had some lungs on her. 1480 01:32:55,986 --> 01:32:58,323 She used to cry, cry, cry-- 1481 01:32:58,387 --> 01:33:00,625 cry a whole lot. 1482 01:33:00,689 --> 01:33:02,427 Joy was just learning 1483 01:33:02,492 --> 01:33:03,961 to take care of her baby 1484 01:33:04,026 --> 01:33:08,334 when Carlina spiked a high fever, 104 degrees. 1485 01:33:08,396 --> 01:33:10,434 On the evening of August 4th, 1486 01:33:10,499 --> 01:33:13,504 Joy and Carl rushed their 19-day-old baby 1487 01:33:13,568 --> 01:33:16,340 to the emergency room at Harlem Hospital, 1488 01:33:16,404 --> 01:33:18,375 where she had been born. 1489 01:33:18,440 --> 01:33:20,176 The doctors found that Carlina 1490 01:33:20,241 --> 01:33:22,679 had swallowed some fluid during the delivery, 1491 01:33:22,744 --> 01:33:24,881 and now she had an infection. 1492 01:33:26,713 --> 01:33:28,451 I was upset because, you know, 1493 01:33:28,516 --> 01:33:30,453 that was my baby and she was sick. 1494 01:33:30,518 --> 01:33:32,955 And then when they told me that they have to keep her, 1495 01:33:33,020 --> 01:33:34,322 you know, I was really, 1496 01:33:34,387 --> 01:33:36,023 you know, upset. 1497 01:33:36,089 --> 01:33:37,992 As Joy cried in the hallway 1498 01:33:38,058 --> 01:33:39,960 outside the pediatric ward, 1499 01:33:40,026 --> 01:33:44,668 a woman dressed in white comforted her. 1500 01:33:44,730 --> 01:33:47,001 She came up to me-- she seen me crying, 1501 01:33:47,066 --> 01:33:48,735 and she came up to me and said, 1502 01:33:48,801 --> 01:33:50,470 "Don't cry-- here's a piece of tissue. 1503 01:33:50,536 --> 01:33:52,573 Don't worry--everything is gonna be okay." 1504 01:33:52,638 --> 01:33:55,343 And, um, she kinda made me feel better, you know, 1505 01:33:55,407 --> 01:33:57,376 at that time, because I was, like, so upset 1506 01:33:57,441 --> 01:33:59,847 I didn't know what to do. 1507 01:33:59,911 --> 01:34:02,248 Joy decided to head home to clean up 1508 01:34:02,313 --> 01:34:03,948 and get a little rest. 1509 01:34:04,014 --> 01:34:06,219 I'm 16 years old-- I'm a young girl. 1510 01:34:06,284 --> 01:34:08,220 I didn't know any better at the time. 1511 01:34:08,285 --> 01:34:11,391 I think the hospital is safe. 1512 01:34:11,454 --> 01:34:15,129 She fell asleep, but not for long. 1513 01:34:15,192 --> 01:34:17,129 Someone knocked on the door, 1514 01:34:17,194 --> 01:34:19,765 and there was two detectives standing at the door. 1515 01:34:19,829 --> 01:34:21,431 I said, "Carlina died?" 1516 01:34:21,498 --> 01:34:22,800 He said, "No." 1517 01:34:22,866 --> 01:34:25,103 He says, "Somebody took her from the hospital." 1518 01:34:27,836 --> 01:34:30,775 So I called Joy, and I said, "Joy!" 1519 01:34:30,839 --> 01:34:32,676 and she came running up here and I said, 1520 01:34:32,741 --> 01:34:35,145 "Somebody done took Carlina," and she couldn't believe me. 1521 01:34:35,210 --> 01:34:38,249 She was hollerin' out, "Oh no, not my baby!" 1522 01:34:38,313 --> 01:34:40,116 I get this phone call. 1523 01:34:40,182 --> 01:34:42,486 Get on the phone, Joy in the background crying, 1524 01:34:42,550 --> 01:34:44,420 "Carl, someone stole our baby!" 1525 01:34:44,485 --> 01:34:46,021 I said, "What are you talking about?" 1526 01:34:46,087 --> 01:34:48,959 I ran to the hospital. 1527 01:34:49,023 --> 01:34:51,494 They had detectives all over the place. 1528 01:34:51,558 --> 01:34:52,793 They had helicopters. 1529 01:34:52,859 --> 01:34:54,729 They had sniffing dogs. 1530 01:34:54,794 --> 01:34:58,368 They had, uh, I mean, it was everybody out there. 1531 01:34:58,431 --> 01:35:00,903 Nobody couldn't tell me anything at the time. 1532 01:35:00,967 --> 01:35:03,004 We had a big conference in-- with the hospital 1533 01:35:03,069 --> 01:35:05,673 and everybody that's worked on that ward that night 1534 01:35:05,738 --> 01:35:07,808 sit at the table, and nobody knew anything. 1535 01:35:10,943 --> 01:35:12,578 As they talked about the night, 1536 01:35:12,644 --> 01:35:16,952 Joy remembered the woman in white who had comforted her. 1537 01:35:17,014 --> 01:35:18,952 And I was like "Oh my God!" 1538 01:35:19,016 --> 01:35:20,487 You know, "It was that lady!" 1539 01:35:22,386 --> 01:35:24,656 She saw me crying. 1540 01:35:24,723 --> 01:35:26,625 She knew my baby was in that treatment room 1541 01:35:26,690 --> 01:35:29,262 and she said, "Stop crying." 1542 01:35:29,326 --> 01:35:31,431 It turned out many people in the hospital 1543 01:35:31,495 --> 01:35:33,498 had seen the woman hanging around, 1544 01:35:33,564 --> 01:35:36,201 especially in the pediatric ward. 1545 01:35:36,266 --> 01:35:38,169 Parents thought she worked there. 1546 01:35:38,235 --> 01:35:40,539 Staff members thought she was a parent, 1547 01:35:40,603 --> 01:35:42,273 or a volunteer. 1548 01:35:42,338 --> 01:35:44,008 I really thought she was a nurse. 1549 01:35:44,073 --> 01:35:46,444 So--I mean, she dressed just like a nurse. 1550 01:35:46,508 --> 01:35:49,313 But she had no name tag. 1551 01:35:49,378 --> 01:35:51,014 Obviously the woman 1552 01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,284 is some type of a hanger-on in the hospital. 1553 01:35:53,348 --> 01:35:54,951 That's typical behavior, 1554 01:35:55,016 --> 01:35:58,155 according to those who study infant abductors. 1555 01:35:58,219 --> 01:35:59,789 They will go to hospitals 1556 01:35:59,854 --> 01:36:01,424 and birthing centers. 1557 01:36:01,489 --> 01:36:03,259 They will walk the halls. 1558 01:36:03,324 --> 01:36:05,026 They'll look at the nursery. 1559 01:36:05,093 --> 01:36:07,530 They will identify particular children 1560 01:36:07,595 --> 01:36:09,699 that might be of interest to them. 1561 01:36:11,198 --> 01:36:13,402 Police in Harlem launched a frantic search, 1562 01:36:13,467 --> 01:36:16,472 combing the hospital and surrounding buildings. 1563 01:36:16,536 --> 01:36:19,308 They released pictures of baby Carlina, 1564 01:36:19,372 --> 01:36:22,044 hoping someone would recognize her. 1565 01:36:22,108 --> 01:36:23,611 Time is the enemy 1566 01:36:23,677 --> 01:36:25,413 in the search for a missing child, 1567 01:36:25,478 --> 01:36:28,517 and that's particularly true with an infant or a newborn. 1568 01:36:28,580 --> 01:36:31,320 Because you want to respond, 1569 01:36:31,383 --> 01:36:33,386 generate visibility 1570 01:36:33,452 --> 01:36:35,054 before the abductor gets 1571 01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,657 to where the abductor's trying to get. 1572 01:36:37,722 --> 01:36:40,527 When the woman in white left Harlem Hospital, 1573 01:36:40,591 --> 01:36:42,996 there were security cameras in place, 1574 01:36:43,060 --> 01:36:44,830 but they weren't working. 1575 01:36:44,895 --> 01:36:48,035 That left very little information to go on. 1576 01:36:48,098 --> 01:36:50,904 No one can actually document that woman 1577 01:36:50,968 --> 01:36:52,503 as the one leaving the hospital. 1578 01:36:52,569 --> 01:36:55,206 We have no one seeing a woman fitting that description 1579 01:36:55,272 --> 01:36:58,143 leaving the hospital with a child in tow. 1580 01:36:58,208 --> 01:36:59,978 Joy and Carl, 1581 01:37:00,043 --> 01:37:01,880 and other witnesses from the hospital 1582 01:37:01,945 --> 01:37:05,618 helped police develop a sketch of the woman in white. 1583 01:37:05,681 --> 01:37:07,885 Then they identified a mug shot 1584 01:37:07,950 --> 01:37:10,522 of a woman who looked like the sketch. 1585 01:37:10,586 --> 01:37:13,290 Detectives questioned her in the week after the abduction, 1586 01:37:13,355 --> 01:37:15,092 but she had an alibi 1587 01:37:15,157 --> 01:37:17,661 and there were no other strong leads. 1588 01:37:17,726 --> 01:37:21,332 We've received over 50 calls from the public, 1589 01:37:21,396 --> 01:37:23,465 and, uh, we are thoroughly investigating 1590 01:37:23,531 --> 01:37:25,368 all of the information that we have received. 1591 01:37:25,432 --> 01:37:27,436 Sometimes they said, "Oh, we have a lead," 1592 01:37:27,501 --> 01:37:29,504 and then turn around and it's no lead. 1593 01:37:29,570 --> 01:37:32,575 And you'd be like, "Oh, man, did they forget about us? 1594 01:37:32,639 --> 01:37:34,342 "Come on, man, this is our baby." 1595 01:37:34,407 --> 01:37:37,212 You know, sometimes I wonder if I had a whole lot of money, 1596 01:37:37,277 --> 01:37:39,949 would they find my baby in a couple of days? 1597 01:37:42,115 --> 01:37:45,821 My sense is that N.Y.P.D. responded quickly, 1598 01:37:45,885 --> 01:37:49,491 took it seriously, attempted to use the media. 1599 01:37:49,555 --> 01:37:53,896 I think this was a failure on many levels, 1600 01:37:53,958 --> 01:37:58,635 not the least of which was that America's hospitals 1601 01:37:58,697 --> 01:38:01,869 hadn't really thought about, or paid attention 1602 01:38:01,933 --> 01:38:05,105 to these kinds of problems in the 1980's. 1603 01:38:05,169 --> 01:38:06,839 The lack of attention allowed 1604 01:38:06,904 --> 01:38:09,509 several infant abductions in the late '80's. 1605 01:38:09,574 --> 01:38:11,043 Though they were unrelated, 1606 01:38:11,108 --> 01:38:13,947 they all followed a similar pattern. 1607 01:38:14,011 --> 01:38:16,081 Typically, the abductor 1608 01:38:16,146 --> 01:38:18,850 was someone almost always a woman 1609 01:38:18,915 --> 01:38:20,585 who would walk into the hospital, 1610 01:38:20,650 --> 01:38:23,388 find a smock hanging up in a closet, 1611 01:38:23,452 --> 01:38:25,088 pick the baby up 1612 01:38:25,154 --> 01:38:27,157 out of a bassinet in the mother's room 1613 01:38:27,223 --> 01:38:28,258 or in the nursery, 1614 01:38:28,324 --> 01:38:30,494 walk off the floor, out of the hospital, 1615 01:38:30,559 --> 01:38:32,228 out of their lives. 1616 01:38:37,198 --> 01:38:38,902 In the days and weeks 1617 01:38:38,967 --> 01:38:40,869 that followed Carlina's abduction, 1618 01:38:40,935 --> 01:38:44,742 Joy did everything she could to keep attention on the case. 1619 01:38:44,806 --> 01:38:47,243 I did any interview that I could possibly do, 1620 01:38:47,308 --> 01:38:49,512 you know, to talk about her. 1621 01:38:49,576 --> 01:38:51,880 I want my baby back. 1622 01:38:51,946 --> 01:38:54,617 She didn't have to do that to me. 1623 01:38:54,681 --> 01:38:56,216 I had her. 1624 01:38:56,283 --> 01:38:57,985 I was carrying her for nine months. 1625 01:38:58,051 --> 01:38:59,754 She didn't have to take her from me. 1626 01:38:59,820 --> 01:39:02,191 The loss was devastating. 1627 01:39:02,255 --> 01:39:05,461 It was hard for me, because I couldn't sleep. 1628 01:39:05,524 --> 01:39:07,060 Every night I had to take, like, 1629 01:39:07,126 --> 01:39:10,733 sleeping pills every night, because I could not sleep. 1630 01:39:10,796 --> 01:39:13,534 Police run out of leads, 1631 01:39:13,598 --> 01:39:16,437 media spotlight dims, 1632 01:39:16,501 --> 01:39:19,072 but these parents don't forget. 1633 01:39:24,643 --> 01:39:27,247 This is a picture of me with, um, 1634 01:39:27,311 --> 01:39:29,782 Carlina's stroller. 1635 01:39:29,847 --> 01:39:31,317 Empty stroller. 1636 01:39:31,382 --> 01:39:33,352 I was always hoping that, you know, 1637 01:39:33,417 --> 01:39:35,153 one day she could come back, 1638 01:39:35,218 --> 01:39:37,155 and could sit back in that stroller again. 1639 01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:45,997 In August 1987, 1640 01:39:46,061 --> 01:39:48,132 a young woman named Ann Pettway 1641 01:39:48,197 --> 01:39:50,802 got off the train in Bridgeport, Connecticut, 1642 01:39:50,867 --> 01:39:53,471 with a baby girl. 1643 01:39:53,535 --> 01:39:57,108 She was just 60 miles northeast of New York City, 1644 01:39:57,172 --> 01:39:59,242 where Carlina White had been abducted 1645 01:39:59,307 --> 01:40:01,912 from Harlem Hospital. 1646 01:40:01,977 --> 01:40:03,713 Bridgeport was home for Ann, 1647 01:40:03,777 --> 01:40:05,915 but she hadn't been around in a few months. 1648 01:40:05,980 --> 01:40:09,219 When she left, her family believed she was pregnant, 1649 01:40:09,282 --> 01:40:12,055 and now she was ready to show off the baby. 1650 01:40:12,119 --> 01:40:14,189 It wasn't a issue, 1651 01:40:14,254 --> 01:40:17,159 because she was pregnant, so it wasn't to say, 1652 01:40:17,224 --> 01:40:20,430 "Oh, where did you get a baby?" 1653 01:40:20,494 --> 01:40:21,929 You know, she was pregnant, 1654 01:40:21,995 --> 01:40:23,932 so you come home with your child. 1655 01:40:25,264 --> 01:40:27,768 Infant abductions are relatively rare. 1656 01:40:27,833 --> 01:40:32,776 There were fewer than 300 from 1983 to 2010. 1657 01:40:32,838 --> 01:40:34,908 But experts have been able to develop 1658 01:40:34,973 --> 01:40:37,143 a profile of the perpetrators, 1659 01:40:37,209 --> 01:40:40,815 and it seems Ann Pettway fit that profile to a tee. 1660 01:40:40,878 --> 01:40:43,115 Overwhelmingly, the abductor 1661 01:40:43,181 --> 01:40:45,183 is a woman--maybe a woman 1662 01:40:45,249 --> 01:40:48,990 who has miscarried, who has lost a baby. 1663 01:40:49,053 --> 01:40:52,426 These cases are more often driven 1664 01:40:52,489 --> 01:40:55,093 by a psychological need 1665 01:40:55,159 --> 01:40:57,028 to keep a particular man in a life, 1666 01:40:57,093 --> 01:40:58,529 keep a relationship alive, 1667 01:40:58,595 --> 01:41:01,801 than it is for the baby, per se. 1668 01:41:01,865 --> 01:41:05,438 So it is-- it's a very manipulative tool 1669 01:41:05,501 --> 01:41:07,571 uh, that these women use. 1670 01:41:07,636 --> 01:41:09,507 The man Ann was trying 1671 01:41:09,572 --> 01:41:11,374 to keep in her life at the time 1672 01:41:11,440 --> 01:41:13,778 was Derek Nance, a local drug dealer. 1673 01:41:13,842 --> 01:41:15,712 She would later tell the FBI 1674 01:41:15,777 --> 01:41:17,680 that she wanted to have his baby, 1675 01:41:17,746 --> 01:41:20,318 but had suffered several miscarriages. 1676 01:41:20,382 --> 01:41:22,419 She named the new baby Nejdra, 1677 01:41:22,484 --> 01:41:26,758 but the family always called her Netty. 1678 01:41:26,821 --> 01:41:29,425 The Pettway family was a large clan, 1679 01:41:29,490 --> 01:41:32,061 spread across Bridgeport's East Side. 1680 01:41:32,125 --> 01:41:34,028 There are so many of us. 1681 01:41:34,094 --> 01:41:36,933 You can walk down the street and see 20 family members. 1682 01:41:36,997 --> 01:41:39,067 I remember just growin' up 1683 01:41:39,132 --> 01:41:40,567 with a lot of cousins, 1684 01:41:40,633 --> 01:41:43,638 havin' a lot of family events together-- 1685 01:41:43,703 --> 01:41:47,911 cookouts, parties--and it was just family-orientated. 1686 01:41:47,974 --> 01:41:50,678 She didn't really need friends because we were there. 1687 01:41:50,743 --> 01:41:53,647 We were her friends and her family. 1688 01:41:53,712 --> 01:41:56,116 What's better to have than family? 1689 01:41:56,180 --> 01:41:57,784 In the Pettway family, 1690 01:41:57,849 --> 01:42:00,186 Netty became known as an entertainer. 1691 01:42:00,251 --> 01:42:01,787 Every September, 1692 01:42:01,853 --> 01:42:04,791 they'll have a family reunion at the park, 1693 01:42:04,855 --> 01:42:07,894 and they'll have dance contests, 1694 01:42:07,958 --> 01:42:09,828 and she'll get involved in it. 1695 01:42:09,893 --> 01:42:12,398 I was just into the entertainment-- 1696 01:42:12,462 --> 01:42:14,834 just growin' up, believing one day 1697 01:42:14,898 --> 01:42:16,768 that I would have been a star. 1698 01:42:16,833 --> 01:42:19,605 But there was another side to her, as well. 1699 01:42:19,669 --> 01:42:23,810 She always liked to be to herself sometimes. 1700 01:42:23,873 --> 01:42:28,881 To this day she's still quiet and to herself. 1701 01:42:28,945 --> 01:42:31,816 That quiet girl found her own outlet. 1702 01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:36,521 At the age of ten, she began writing poems. 1703 01:42:36,585 --> 01:42:39,690 I just like to write-- it expresses me. 1704 01:42:39,754 --> 01:42:41,891 When Netty wasn't with her cousins, 1705 01:42:41,956 --> 01:42:44,026 she was home with Ann Pettway. 1706 01:42:44,091 --> 01:42:46,195 For years it was just the two of them, 1707 01:42:46,260 --> 01:42:50,701 until Ann had a baby boy when Netty was 11. 1708 01:42:50,765 --> 01:42:55,074 Ann is a very outspoken, Ioving person. 1709 01:42:55,137 --> 01:42:56,506 She made sure Nejdra 1710 01:42:56,571 --> 01:42:59,610 had everything she wanted and everything she needed. 1711 01:42:59,674 --> 01:43:01,309 Ann was fairly strict 1712 01:43:01,375 --> 01:43:02,443 with her daughter though. 1713 01:43:02,509 --> 01:43:05,114 She disciplined her when she needed disciplining. 1714 01:43:05,179 --> 01:43:07,683 It was, "You have to go home, go to school 1715 01:43:07,747 --> 01:43:09,518 go to Brittany's house..." 1716 01:43:09,583 --> 01:43:12,120 But she still let us have our fun as children, 1717 01:43:12,185 --> 01:43:15,491 but she did have that strict side to her. 1718 01:43:15,555 --> 01:43:20,464 The young Netty didn't dare talk back. 1719 01:43:20,526 --> 01:43:22,663 You didn't ask questions why you should do it. 1720 01:43:22,728 --> 01:43:25,466 It was just, "You do it because they told you." 1721 01:43:25,530 --> 01:43:26,766 And that's how I grew up. 1722 01:43:26,832 --> 01:43:29,203 I mean, from my uncles, my aunts--everybody. 1723 01:43:29,267 --> 01:43:31,071 According to police reports, 1724 01:43:31,136 --> 01:43:33,607 Ann ran into some trouble over the years. 1725 01:43:33,672 --> 01:43:37,679 She was arrested in 1991,'93, and '97 1726 01:43:37,742 --> 01:43:40,914 on charges of drug possession and larceny. 1727 01:43:40,978 --> 01:43:43,550 Netty had no idea at the time. 1728 01:43:43,614 --> 01:43:45,317 I really wasn't exposed 1729 01:43:45,383 --> 01:43:48,822 to everything that she was going through... 1730 01:43:48,886 --> 01:43:51,523 until I got older. 1731 01:43:51,588 --> 01:43:55,095 As a child growin' up, you're not into adult business, 1732 01:43:55,158 --> 01:43:57,729 so those things we wouldn't know. 1733 01:44:00,663 --> 01:44:02,365 Netty did shuttle back and forth 1734 01:44:02,431 --> 01:44:04,168 to Ann's mother's home, 1735 01:44:04,233 --> 01:44:06,170 although she was given a different reason 1736 01:44:06,235 --> 01:44:07,737 for the moves. 1737 01:44:07,802 --> 01:44:10,475 I stayed with my grandmother when I attended school, 1738 01:44:10,539 --> 01:44:12,943 'cause I was going based on her address. 1739 01:44:13,007 --> 01:44:14,745 I went to school in a better district, 1740 01:44:14,809 --> 01:44:16,512 so I stayed with her. 1741 01:44:16,577 --> 01:44:20,351 Other grandkids who needed somewhere to stay 1742 01:44:20,415 --> 01:44:23,454 or have some type of issues going on, 1743 01:44:23,517 --> 01:44:26,389 they'll come and stay with my mom, 1744 01:44:26,453 --> 01:44:29,425 and Netty was one of 'em that stayed. 1745 01:44:29,489 --> 01:44:33,296 And most of the time, the kids choose to stay with my mom. 1746 01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,497 Through her childhood, 1747 01:44:35,562 --> 01:44:37,832 no one in the immediate family 1748 01:44:37,897 --> 01:44:41,036 seems to have questioned Nejdra's parentage. 1749 01:44:41,100 --> 01:44:43,437 There was no suspicion that Nejdra was not Ann's daughter. 1750 01:44:43,502 --> 01:44:45,739 I knew she looked a little bit different, 1751 01:44:45,804 --> 01:44:47,841 but we all look a little bit different 1752 01:44:47,906 --> 01:44:49,375 in the family. 1753 01:44:49,441 --> 01:44:51,979 And Netty had no reason to question it either. 1754 01:44:52,043 --> 01:44:54,381 If anything, I probably thought my dad wasn't my dad. 1755 01:44:54,446 --> 01:44:56,516 I just figured, okay, maybe I look like my dad, 1756 01:44:56,581 --> 01:44:58,050 but I don't know who he is. 1757 01:44:58,115 --> 01:45:01,154 But, I thought that she was my mom, 1758 01:45:01,218 --> 01:45:04,257 for me growing up. 1759 01:45:04,321 --> 01:45:05,890 In fact, of course, 1760 01:45:05,957 --> 01:45:09,530 her real mother was 60 miles away in New York City, 1761 01:45:09,593 --> 01:45:15,270 still dreaming of her missing baby, Carlina. 1762 01:45:15,331 --> 01:45:16,834 No other leads. 1763 01:45:16,900 --> 01:45:18,702 They just had crazy people call, saying that, 1764 01:45:18,768 --> 01:45:20,738 you know, they may have seen Carlina, 1765 01:45:20,803 --> 01:45:23,040 this or that, whatever, but it was nothing... 1766 01:45:23,105 --> 01:45:25,810 Joy and Carl split up 1767 01:45:25,874 --> 01:45:27,410 after Carlina was kidnapped, 1768 01:45:27,476 --> 01:45:30,949 but together, they sued Harlem Hospital for negligence 1769 01:45:31,013 --> 01:45:35,019 in allowing their baby to be taken. 1770 01:45:35,082 --> 01:45:36,553 Anybody could come to a hospital, 1771 01:45:36,618 --> 01:45:38,253 you're supposed to have security around them. 1772 01:45:38,319 --> 01:45:39,822 And you're supposed to watch them. 1773 01:45:39,887 --> 01:45:42,259 That--that's your job. 1774 01:45:42,323 --> 01:45:45,796 I think if they had more security at the time, 1775 01:45:45,859 --> 01:45:48,631 this probably would have never happened. 1776 01:45:48,696 --> 01:45:51,100 Eventually, in 1992, 1777 01:45:51,164 --> 01:45:55,038 they won a settlement of 750,000. 1778 01:45:55,101 --> 01:45:58,741 They put some of it aside for Carlina. 1779 01:45:58,805 --> 01:46:00,842 We had that hope, our daughter was coming back. 1780 01:46:00,906 --> 01:46:03,478 So that's why me and Joy decided to start this trust fund. 1781 01:46:03,542 --> 01:46:06,147 So, if she was to be found by 21 years old, 1782 01:46:06,212 --> 01:46:07,614 she would have it. 1783 01:46:07,679 --> 01:46:09,616 Meanwhile, all Carlina's parents 1784 01:46:09,681 --> 01:46:11,951 could do was wait. 1785 01:46:12,017 --> 01:46:14,388 This is somethin' that you can't explain 1786 01:46:14,452 --> 01:46:16,857 when you have a missing child, 1787 01:46:16,921 --> 01:46:18,791 but it always stayed with me. 1788 01:46:18,856 --> 01:46:20,326 She was always on my mind. 1789 01:46:20,391 --> 01:46:22,595 I always wondered where she was at. 1790 01:46:22,660 --> 01:46:24,964 I would get on trains, and I would look at girls, 1791 01:46:25,029 --> 01:46:27,333 and I would just think that maybe that's her. 1792 01:46:35,638 --> 01:46:37,341 As decades passed, 1793 01:46:37,406 --> 01:46:39,343 the kidnapping of Carlina White, 1794 01:46:39,408 --> 01:46:42,046 stolen as an infant from Harlem Hospital, 1795 01:46:42,111 --> 01:46:44,548 became a cold case. 1796 01:46:44,613 --> 01:46:47,418 After all, how do you find a missing baby 1797 01:46:47,483 --> 01:46:51,223 after so many years? 1798 01:46:51,286 --> 01:46:53,991 Later on in the years, things kind of, 1799 01:46:54,056 --> 01:46:55,658 you know, died down. 1800 01:46:55,723 --> 01:46:57,726 They just--think they lost hope. 1801 01:46:57,792 --> 01:47:00,697 I didn't, but I-- I think they lost hope. 1802 01:47:00,762 --> 01:47:02,999 As often happens with these cases, 1803 01:47:03,064 --> 01:47:04,867 it became the purview 1804 01:47:04,932 --> 01:47:08,905 of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. 1805 01:47:08,968 --> 01:47:11,774 The experts there know that infant abductors 1806 01:47:11,838 --> 01:47:14,777 usually take good care of their captives. 1807 01:47:14,841 --> 01:47:17,245 We were convinced from day one 1808 01:47:17,310 --> 01:47:20,516 that Carlina White was out there somewhere, 1809 01:47:20,580 --> 01:47:23,619 no doubt with a different name, 1810 01:47:23,682 --> 01:47:27,489 no doubt with no recollection or any inkling 1811 01:47:27,552 --> 01:47:30,391 that she, in fact, was a missing child. 1812 01:47:32,557 --> 01:47:34,761 The way the center 1813 01:47:34,826 --> 01:47:36,228 keeps these cases in the public eye 1814 01:47:36,294 --> 01:47:38,231 is with age progressions, 1815 01:47:38,296 --> 01:47:40,466 using the last-known picture of the child, 1816 01:47:40,531 --> 01:47:42,768 and information about her family, 1817 01:47:42,833 --> 01:47:46,674 to guess what she might look like as she grows up. 1818 01:47:46,737 --> 01:47:49,108 It doesn't do much good to circulate the photograph 1819 01:47:49,172 --> 01:47:52,511 of a 19-day-old child 1820 01:47:52,575 --> 01:47:54,378 if she's now 5 years old, 1821 01:47:54,444 --> 01:47:57,149 or 10 years old, or 23 years old. 1822 01:47:57,213 --> 01:48:01,454 That was based on her sister, and I used that photograph 1823 01:48:01,517 --> 01:48:04,256 to create Carlina's age progression, 1824 01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:06,691 based on Mom's statement that her half-sister 1825 01:48:06,755 --> 01:48:09,660 looked just like Carlina when they were born. 1826 01:48:09,724 --> 01:48:12,797 So... can't argue with Mom on that. 1827 01:48:12,861 --> 01:48:15,465 Carlina's mother Joy made her own effort 1828 01:48:15,529 --> 01:48:18,937 to keep the story alive and public. 1829 01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,137 What I remember the most about Joy White 1830 01:48:21,202 --> 01:48:25,008 was the fact that she never gave up. 1831 01:48:25,072 --> 01:48:28,044 And periodically, Joy would be in the media, 1832 01:48:28,108 --> 01:48:30,412 in New York, or elsewhere. 1833 01:48:30,477 --> 01:48:33,081 Sometimes I--I go to sleep, I think about her. 1834 01:48:33,147 --> 01:48:38,289 Sometimes I wake up thinkin' about her. 1835 01:48:38,351 --> 01:48:40,989 I did a lot of interviews over the years 1836 01:48:41,053 --> 01:48:43,057 because I wanted to find my daughter. 1837 01:48:43,122 --> 01:48:46,126 I wanted her back, you know, with me, and um, 1838 01:48:46,192 --> 01:48:48,930 I really believed that she was out there somewhere, 1839 01:48:48,994 --> 01:48:50,864 and I wanted to get that message out 1840 01:48:50,929 --> 01:48:53,733 that her mother wanted her to come back home. 1841 01:48:53,798 --> 01:48:55,601 Joy never stopped believing 1842 01:48:55,667 --> 01:48:57,537 that Carlina was alive. 1843 01:48:57,602 --> 01:48:59,439 I always knew that Carlina would probably 1844 01:48:59,504 --> 01:49:02,308 look for her birth certificate or something, or-- 1845 01:49:02,373 --> 01:49:05,679 or try to find out who her real mom was. 1846 01:49:05,742 --> 01:49:10,016 And in 2005, that's exactly what happened. 1847 01:49:10,079 --> 01:49:11,516 The girl called Nejdra, 1848 01:49:11,581 --> 01:49:13,585 still living in Bridgeport Connecticut, 1849 01:49:13,650 --> 01:49:15,687 found out she was pregnant. 1850 01:49:15,752 --> 01:49:18,189 She had a serious boyfriend at the time 1851 01:49:18,254 --> 01:49:20,891 and was excited about having a baby. 1852 01:49:20,956 --> 01:49:22,592 The only problem was... 1853 01:49:22,658 --> 01:49:25,095 she didn't have health insurance. 1854 01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:26,563 She asked for help 1855 01:49:26,629 --> 01:49:31,371 from the woman she always called "Mom"... Ann Pettway. 1856 01:49:31,433 --> 01:49:33,303 I questioned her about, um, 1857 01:49:33,368 --> 01:49:35,805 my social security card, my birth certificate. 1858 01:49:35,870 --> 01:49:37,673 She just said she'd handle it, you know, 1859 01:49:37,739 --> 01:49:39,441 get everything right for me. 1860 01:49:39,507 --> 01:49:41,077 I don't have to worry about it. 1861 01:49:41,142 --> 01:49:44,281 But, I started gettin' impatient. 1862 01:49:44,345 --> 01:49:47,517 Nejdra snooped among Ann's papers 1863 01:49:47,581 --> 01:49:51,354 until she found one that looked like a birth certificate. 1864 01:49:51,418 --> 01:49:54,290 She brought it in to apply for insurance. 1865 01:49:57,757 --> 01:49:59,827 They told me to take the paper 1866 01:49:59,892 --> 01:50:02,062 and leave out they office before I get arrested. 1867 01:50:02,127 --> 01:50:05,767 And, I just looked at the lady like, 1868 01:50:05,831 --> 01:50:08,002 "I'm just tryin' to get, you know, prenatal care. 1869 01:50:08,067 --> 01:50:10,103 "I need to go to the doctor 'cause I'm pregnant." 1870 01:50:10,169 --> 01:50:12,373 And she was like, "Well, this is fraud." 1871 01:50:12,438 --> 01:50:15,276 The birth certificate was a fake. 1872 01:50:15,339 --> 01:50:18,746 The clerk called the woman who had made it, Ann Pettway. 1873 01:50:18,809 --> 01:50:22,115 Now Ann had to give Nejdra an explanation. 1874 01:50:22,180 --> 01:50:24,551 When she got back home from work that night, 1875 01:50:24,615 --> 01:50:25,984 she came into my room. 1876 01:50:26,050 --> 01:50:28,053 I was hangin' up my clothes in my closet 1877 01:50:28,118 --> 01:50:33,628 and she sat on my bed and said, um, "I'm sorry." 1878 01:50:33,690 --> 01:50:35,225 And tears started fallin' outta her eyes, 1879 01:50:35,292 --> 01:50:37,562 and I was like, "What are you sorry about?" 1880 01:50:37,627 --> 01:50:39,529 and she was like, "I'm just--I'm sorry. 1881 01:50:39,596 --> 01:50:43,971 "Um, I wish I coulda told you," you know. 1882 01:50:44,033 --> 01:50:46,170 She was just like, "Your mom just left you there. 1883 01:50:46,235 --> 01:50:48,339 She just left you there and she never came back." 1884 01:50:48,404 --> 01:50:50,140 I'm like, "What?" 1885 01:50:50,205 --> 01:50:54,346 She just basically told me that she wasn't my mom-- 1886 01:50:54,409 --> 01:50:57,515 that someone left me and she took me in 1887 01:50:57,579 --> 01:50:59,449 and basically took care of me. 1888 01:50:59,514 --> 01:51:01,951 The news that Nejdra was not Ann's child 1889 01:51:02,016 --> 01:51:03,919 surprised the whole family, 1890 01:51:03,985 --> 01:51:07,291 but the close-knit Pettway clan closed ranks. 1891 01:51:07,354 --> 01:51:09,458 No one cared about it, truthfully. 1892 01:51:09,523 --> 01:51:12,060 To me, she-she-she was always my family, 1893 01:51:12,125 --> 01:51:14,262 and she will always be my family. 1894 01:51:14,327 --> 01:51:15,596 Meanwhile, 1895 01:51:15,662 --> 01:51:18,166 the Connecticut Department of Child and Families, 1896 01:51:18,231 --> 01:51:21,870 or D.C.F., opened a file on Nejdra's case, 1897 01:51:21,934 --> 01:51:24,606 But there wasn't a lot of information to go on, 1898 01:51:24,670 --> 01:51:26,607 and Ann wasn't much help. 1899 01:51:26,672 --> 01:51:28,508 It's like, she don't remember anything. 1900 01:51:28,573 --> 01:51:31,412 She don't talk about it. 1901 01:51:31,476 --> 01:51:35,350 I asked her several times. 1902 01:51:35,413 --> 01:51:38,085 Ann claimed Nejdra had been born in New Haven, 1903 01:51:38,149 --> 01:51:40,453 but there was no record of the birth. 1904 01:51:40,518 --> 01:51:42,555 D.C.F. took DNA samples 1905 01:51:42,620 --> 01:51:45,092 and confirmed that Ann wasn't the mother, 1906 01:51:45,156 --> 01:51:47,627 but they said they couldn't help Nejdra find out who was. 1907 01:51:47,691 --> 01:51:50,195 I was like, "Can you take my blood at least 1908 01:51:50,260 --> 01:51:52,330 to match it up with someone that's out there?" 1909 01:51:52,395 --> 01:51:54,098 They was like, "That's TV stuff." 1910 01:51:54,164 --> 01:51:56,568 D.C.F. found out-- they didn't do nothin'. 1911 01:51:56,633 --> 01:51:58,970 What would you do if they say that's not your mother 1912 01:51:59,035 --> 01:52:00,805 but they not finding your mother? 1913 01:52:00,870 --> 01:52:02,840 It was like I'm startin' from scratch. 1914 01:52:02,905 --> 01:52:05,075 I don't know anything--I don't-- I don't have any names, 1915 01:52:05,141 --> 01:52:07,645 no area where they from, no background, no nothin'. 1916 01:52:07,709 --> 01:52:10,214 Nejdra, who had always kept to herself 1917 01:52:10,279 --> 01:52:13,083 --writing poems rather than sharing her feelings-- 1918 01:52:13,148 --> 01:52:15,853 kept this news to herself as well. 1919 01:52:15,917 --> 01:52:19,123 She dealt with it on her own, basically. 1920 01:52:19,187 --> 01:52:21,624 You would've never known that there was speculation 1921 01:52:21,689 --> 01:52:23,859 that she was her mother, that she wasn't her mother-- 1922 01:52:23,924 --> 01:52:25,560 you never would've known any of that. 1923 01:52:25,626 --> 01:52:27,462 I'm still healthy, I'm still alive, 1924 01:52:27,527 --> 01:52:30,299 and I just gotta move forward, And that's how I looked at it. 1925 01:52:30,364 --> 01:52:34,672 Besides, she had her own baby to look after now. 1926 01:52:34,734 --> 01:52:38,908 On May 6, 2005, Nejdra gave birth to a daughter. 1927 01:52:38,971 --> 01:52:41,242 She named her Samani. 1928 01:52:41,307 --> 01:52:43,310 That was the best thing that happened to her. 1929 01:52:43,376 --> 01:52:45,012 She loves her. 1930 01:52:45,078 --> 01:52:49,084 To have a daughter that's just like you 1931 01:52:49,147 --> 01:52:52,453 is the one thing she could've ever asked for. 1932 01:52:52,517 --> 01:52:54,822 And eventually that daughter 1933 01:52:54,887 --> 01:52:57,758 and the revelations around her birth 1934 01:52:57,822 --> 01:53:01,128 would lead Nejdra to uncover the secrets of her own birth. 1935 01:53:03,994 --> 01:53:07,668 I thank God that she had a daughter 1936 01:53:07,731 --> 01:53:08,933 so that she could find me. 1937 01:53:12,001 --> 01:53:13,472 In 2005, 1938 01:53:13,537 --> 01:53:16,441 the girl called Nejdra was 17 years old, 1939 01:53:16,505 --> 01:53:18,243 living in Bridgeport, Connecticut, 1940 01:53:18,307 --> 01:53:20,412 with her new daughter, Samani. 1941 01:53:20,476 --> 01:53:21,978 She'd found out 1942 01:53:22,044 --> 01:53:25,016 that the woman she had always called Mom, Ann Pettway, 1943 01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,119 in fact was not her mother. 1944 01:53:28,183 --> 01:53:30,587 Still, as she graduated from high school 1945 01:53:30,652 --> 01:53:32,489 and moved out on her own, 1946 01:53:32,554 --> 01:53:34,791 she kept up a relationship with Ann 1947 01:53:34,856 --> 01:53:38,463 and with the entire Pettway family. 1948 01:53:38,526 --> 01:53:41,131 In 2009, she moved near Atlanta, 1949 01:53:41,195 --> 01:53:44,834 where more members of the Pettway family lived. 1950 01:53:44,898 --> 01:53:48,872 I just wanted a new atmosphere for me and my daughter. 1951 01:53:48,936 --> 01:53:52,777 Nejdra found a job as an assistant in a hair salon, 1952 01:53:52,839 --> 01:53:56,880 and she worked to build a life for herself and her daughter. 1953 01:53:56,943 --> 01:54:02,286 She's a very down-to-earth... strict mom. 1954 01:54:02,347 --> 01:54:04,853 - P-e-n-r...So-- 1955 01:54:04,917 --> 01:54:06,386 - P-e... - Yeah. 1956 01:54:06,452 --> 01:54:08,189 It's cut off so I read the rest. 1957 01:54:08,254 --> 01:54:10,992 She makes sure Samani does her homework. 1958 01:54:11,055 --> 01:54:14,295 She makes sure she's on point with everything she needs to do. 1959 01:54:14,358 --> 01:54:16,697 She's actually a great mother. 1960 01:54:16,762 --> 01:54:18,664 But being a mother 1961 01:54:18,729 --> 01:54:20,899 made Nejdra wonder about her own mother. 1962 01:54:20,966 --> 01:54:23,470 Wait, don't tell me... um-- 1963 01:54:23,534 --> 01:54:25,771 Some days I wake up and look at my daughter 1964 01:54:25,836 --> 01:54:28,073 and wonder, "Who do I look like?" 1965 01:54:28,138 --> 01:54:29,607 Every so often, 1966 01:54:29,673 --> 01:54:32,612 she would trawl the Internet looking for clues. 1967 01:54:35,679 --> 01:54:38,451 Mainly around July, 1968 01:54:38,515 --> 01:54:42,154 the summertime, when my birthday come around-- 1969 01:54:42,218 --> 01:54:44,522 'cause I already knew that my birthday 1970 01:54:44,586 --> 01:54:46,557 wasn't the date that I was born on. 1971 01:54:46,622 --> 01:54:48,459 Still intensely private, 1972 01:54:48,524 --> 01:54:51,328 she told no one what she was doing. 1973 01:54:51,392 --> 01:54:53,663 That's something I guess that she harbored, 1974 01:54:53,729 --> 01:54:55,798 which I know ate her up inside. 1975 01:54:55,864 --> 01:54:57,800 That was a journey that Nejdra 1976 01:54:57,865 --> 01:55:02,173 had to search and endure on her own. 1977 01:55:02,236 --> 01:55:05,008 But in the fall of 2010, 1978 01:55:05,072 --> 01:55:08,946 Nejdra asked her aunt Cassandra for help. 1979 01:55:09,010 --> 01:55:10,445 She was like, "You know, 1980 01:55:10,511 --> 01:55:12,915 "I still want to find my mom 1981 01:55:12,979 --> 01:55:16,518 "and see who my family is." 1982 01:55:16,583 --> 01:55:19,621 And I said, "If you want me to help you, I'll help you." 1983 01:55:19,685 --> 01:55:23,091 I think that was a chapter in her life 1984 01:55:23,156 --> 01:55:25,927 that she needed to complete 1985 01:55:25,991 --> 01:55:28,763 in order to move forward with her life. 1986 01:55:28,828 --> 01:55:30,497 Neither of them thought about 1987 01:55:30,562 --> 01:55:32,565 what finding out the truth would mean for Ann Pettway... 1988 01:55:33,965 --> 01:55:37,237 ...the woman who raised Nejdra. 1989 01:55:37,302 --> 01:55:39,539 The week before Christmas, 1990 01:55:39,604 --> 01:55:42,810 they began to search for answers. 1991 01:55:42,874 --> 01:55:44,743 Nejdra had always looked for stories 1992 01:55:44,808 --> 01:55:46,945 of missing children from Connecticut, 1993 01:55:47,010 --> 01:55:50,049 since Ann had told her she was born in New Haven. 1994 01:55:50,113 --> 01:55:54,120 This time, she decided to cast a wider net. 1995 01:55:54,184 --> 01:55:57,156 I was just reading through articles 1996 01:55:57,220 --> 01:55:58,922 about African-Americans, Hispanics-- 1997 01:55:58,988 --> 01:56:02,462 anything that was missing around the New England area, 1998 01:56:02,525 --> 01:56:06,900 and I came across that baby picture. 1999 01:56:06,962 --> 01:56:10,102 I thought it looked like it could be me. 2000 01:56:10,165 --> 01:56:12,436 And just how the dates were adding up-- 2001 01:56:12,501 --> 01:56:14,872 it was a little close to my birthday, 2002 01:56:14,936 --> 01:56:17,641 so I got kinda stuck on the whole concept of it-- 2003 01:56:17,706 --> 01:56:21,679 everything about the whole article and the picture. 2004 01:56:21,742 --> 01:56:24,547 The picture she found was of Carlina White, 2005 01:56:24,612 --> 01:56:27,049 stolen as a baby from Harlem Hospital 2006 01:56:27,114 --> 01:56:31,388 in August 1987. 2007 01:56:31,451 --> 01:56:33,254 And I'm like, "Auntie, 2008 01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:34,922 Don't you think this look like me?" 2009 01:56:34,987 --> 01:56:36,591 It look like her, 2010 01:56:36,656 --> 01:56:40,396 but the only thing that was in question for me was the hair. 2011 01:56:40,459 --> 01:56:43,064 It seemed like too much hair. 2012 01:56:45,131 --> 01:56:47,401 The picture was on the web site 2013 01:56:47,466 --> 01:56:50,772 of the National Center for Missing and Exploited children, 2014 01:56:50,836 --> 01:56:54,142 which had followed Carlina's case for years. 2015 01:56:54,205 --> 01:56:56,677 Nejdra called the center's hotline 2016 01:56:56,741 --> 01:56:59,146 and spoke to Jordan Wood. 2017 01:56:59,210 --> 01:57:01,013 She had strong suspicions. 2018 01:57:01,078 --> 01:57:03,182 I'm explaining to her my whole story. 2019 01:57:03,247 --> 01:57:05,117 There were problems with her birth certificate 2020 01:57:05,182 --> 01:57:07,286 and her other documents, so that was her main concern 2021 01:57:07,351 --> 01:57:08,887 and her main reason for feeling 2022 01:57:08,953 --> 01:57:11,791 that she was possibly abducted as an infant. 2023 01:57:11,855 --> 01:57:13,892 She just said, "I feel that my parents 2024 01:57:13,957 --> 01:57:15,560 "are still out there Iooking for me, 2025 01:57:15,626 --> 01:57:18,063 "not knowing that I'm going by another name 2026 01:57:18,128 --> 01:57:20,131 and another social security number." 2027 01:57:20,196 --> 01:57:22,133 Nejdra did not tell Jordan 2028 01:57:22,198 --> 01:57:24,869 that she had seen the picture of Carlina White. 2029 01:57:24,934 --> 01:57:27,673 I don't know exactly if that was me in that picture. 2030 01:57:27,736 --> 01:57:29,439 I just called to see 2031 01:57:29,504 --> 01:57:32,009 if someone could match it up and just let me know. 2032 01:57:32,074 --> 01:57:33,810 I could definitely hear 2033 01:57:33,875 --> 01:57:35,845 a lot of frustration in her voice. 2034 01:57:35,910 --> 01:57:38,281 She had gone to other agencies before she came to us, 2035 01:57:38,347 --> 01:57:40,884 and she hadn't gotten anywhere, 2036 01:57:40,949 --> 01:57:42,752 um, so, you know, out of frustration, 2037 01:57:42,817 --> 01:57:46,089 she said, "I--I don't know who I am." 2038 01:57:46,154 --> 01:57:48,123 Jordan took Nejdra's information 2039 01:57:48,189 --> 01:57:50,158 and a complete physical description 2040 01:57:50,223 --> 01:57:53,228 and passed it to the center's analysts. 2041 01:57:53,293 --> 01:57:56,599 We knew, based upon Netty's age, 2042 01:57:56,663 --> 01:58:00,470 that we could rule out cases prior to 1987. 2043 01:58:00,533 --> 01:58:03,705 But then we began to look at a wide range of cases 2044 01:58:03,769 --> 01:58:05,940 subsequent to 1987. 2045 01:58:06,005 --> 01:58:07,640 The child could've been taken when she was 2046 01:58:07,706 --> 01:58:10,745 1 or 2 or even 3 years old 2047 01:58:10,809 --> 01:58:13,581 and not have any memory of her-- of her birth parents. 2048 01:58:13,645 --> 01:58:15,749 Finally, the analysts came up 2049 01:58:15,814 --> 01:58:18,151 with what they believed was the best match-- 2050 01:58:18,216 --> 01:58:19,886 Carlina White. 2051 01:58:19,951 --> 01:58:22,588 On January 4, 2011, 2052 01:58:22,653 --> 01:58:26,026 a caseworker called Joy White, Carlina's mother. 2053 01:58:26,089 --> 01:58:28,194 I was at work when he called me, 2054 01:58:28,258 --> 01:58:32,199 and I was like, "You found my daughter?" 2055 01:58:32,262 --> 01:58:34,499 So I left my desk, and I went downstairs 2056 01:58:34,564 --> 01:58:36,501 and I just started crying, 2057 01:58:36,566 --> 01:58:38,569 and I started screaming. 2058 01:58:38,635 --> 01:58:40,270 The caseworker sent pictures 2059 01:58:40,336 --> 01:58:42,406 of the girl they'd identified as Carlina 2060 01:58:42,471 --> 01:58:45,243 to Joy and Carlina's father, Carl. 2061 01:58:45,307 --> 01:58:47,245 And when he emailed me those pictures, 2062 01:58:47,309 --> 01:58:49,313 I sat there and I cried. 2063 01:58:49,378 --> 01:58:52,316 She looked just like Joy used to look like in the day. 2064 01:58:52,380 --> 01:58:54,852 Then I called Joy up-- I said, "Joy." 2065 01:58:54,917 --> 01:58:57,288 she said, "Yeah"-- I said, "Joy, 2066 01:58:57,352 --> 01:58:59,255 she look like she could be our daughter." 2067 01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,591 And then Joy got another call. 2068 01:59:01,656 --> 01:59:05,029 And she said, "Hi, Mom," and that touched me. 2069 01:59:05,092 --> 01:59:06,929 She had me on speaker--we talked. 2070 01:59:06,994 --> 01:59:08,629 My aunts was in the background yellin', 2071 01:59:08,695 --> 01:59:10,698 saying "come home"-- they knew it was me. 2072 01:59:10,764 --> 01:59:12,134 Nobody couldn't believe it. 2073 01:59:12,199 --> 01:59:15,572 We were all in here going crazy--so happy. 2074 01:59:15,635 --> 01:59:17,038 Joy notified 2075 01:59:17,103 --> 01:59:19,207 the New York City police department. 2076 01:59:19,272 --> 01:59:21,542 I said, "Hello, my name is Joy White, 2077 01:59:21,607 --> 01:59:23,277 "and I'm the mother of Carlina White 2078 01:59:23,342 --> 01:59:26,247 "that was missin' in 1987, 2079 01:59:26,312 --> 01:59:28,783 and she have been found." 2080 01:59:33,151 --> 01:59:35,789 In January 2011, 2081 01:59:35,853 --> 01:59:39,227 more than 23 years after a baby named Carlina White 2082 01:59:39,290 --> 01:59:41,527 was stolen from Harlem Hospital, 2083 01:59:41,593 --> 01:59:46,435 she was reunited with her birth parents, Joy and Carl. 2084 01:59:46,497 --> 01:59:49,636 Okay, big smile. 2085 01:59:49,700 --> 01:59:52,605 I was nervous-- I was definitely nervous. 2086 01:59:52,669 --> 01:59:54,472 You want some bread for that pasta? 2087 01:59:54,537 --> 01:59:56,440 She flew up here from Atlanta, 2088 01:59:56,506 --> 01:59:59,245 her and my granddaughter, and I made sure that, uh, 2089 01:59:59,309 --> 02:00:00,944 all the family was here. 2090 02:00:01,010 --> 02:00:02,947 They--all the-- all my family came over, 2091 02:00:03,012 --> 02:00:06,251 and we cooked, and we just enjoyed each other. 2092 02:00:06,315 --> 02:00:09,320 Look, we go, um, forehead and everything over here. 2093 02:00:09,384 --> 02:00:13,793 Carlina, she was a sweet, adorable, beautiful girl, 2094 02:00:13,855 --> 02:00:17,027 And right away I seen Carl, her father's, eyes. 2095 02:00:17,092 --> 02:00:19,529 "Oh God," I said, "you got your father's eyes." 2096 02:00:19,594 --> 02:00:21,899 So I hugged her, and I'm like, "Oh my God." 2097 02:00:21,963 --> 02:00:23,432 She saw tears comin' from my eyes. 2098 02:00:23,498 --> 02:00:25,033 I said, "I can't believe this." 2099 02:00:25,099 --> 02:00:28,104 Joy comin' downstairs, and Joy said, "That's our baby." 2100 02:00:28,168 --> 02:00:29,838 And I say, "Yeah, that's our baby." 2101 02:00:29,903 --> 02:00:31,841 At the time, the reunion 2102 02:00:31,905 --> 02:00:34,176 was everything they had hoped for. 2103 02:00:34,241 --> 02:00:36,979 When she was here, it was like, uh, 2104 02:00:37,043 --> 02:00:40,149 nothin' never happened, like she was never lost. 2105 02:00:40,212 --> 02:00:41,916 I didn't feel anything else but happiness. 2106 02:00:41,981 --> 02:00:43,383 She would say to me, like, 2107 02:00:43,449 --> 02:00:45,052 "Why're you staring at me like that?" 2108 02:00:45,118 --> 02:00:47,455 I don't think that she understood 2109 02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:49,122 how much I missed her, 2110 02:00:49,188 --> 02:00:52,293 and I couldn't believe that she was in front of me, 2111 02:00:52,357 --> 02:00:54,094 and it was just, oh God-- 2112 02:00:54,159 --> 02:00:56,029 it was just so unbelievable. 2113 02:00:56,094 --> 02:00:58,031 The whole thing is unbelievable. 2114 02:00:58,096 --> 02:00:59,698 But after the reunion... 2115 02:01:01,098 --> 02:01:02,701 ...problems quickly developed. 2116 02:01:02,767 --> 02:01:06,006 The story of the young woman who discovered her true identity 2117 02:01:06,070 --> 02:01:07,873 became big news. 2118 02:01:07,938 --> 02:01:10,009 Now to an unbelievable reunion... 2119 02:01:10,074 --> 02:01:12,445 23-year-old Carlina White of Georgia 2120 02:01:12,509 --> 02:01:14,546 had long suspected she wasn't related 2121 02:01:14,611 --> 02:01:16,548 to the people who raised her. 2122 02:01:16,613 --> 02:01:18,917 By the time she was headed home to Atlanta, 2123 02:01:18,982 --> 02:01:22,188 where she lived, the media had descended. 2124 02:01:22,251 --> 02:01:25,024 I think she was a little overwhelmed, 2125 02:01:25,088 --> 02:01:29,095 and I think she was a little spooked 2126 02:01:29,159 --> 02:01:32,866 by the attention. 2127 02:01:32,929 --> 02:01:35,633 The media attention had another consequence. 2128 02:01:35,698 --> 02:01:38,503 The Pettway family, who she'd grown up with as Nejdra, 2129 02:01:38,568 --> 02:01:41,840 now heard the whole story. 2130 02:01:41,904 --> 02:01:44,742 I found out about it on the news. 2131 02:01:44,807 --> 02:01:47,278 My emotions were so mixed up. 2132 02:01:47,342 --> 02:01:49,646 I was sad. 2133 02:01:49,711 --> 02:01:52,650 I was happy that she got the answers that she wanted. 2134 02:01:52,714 --> 02:01:54,584 I was--it was just a bunch of-- 2135 02:01:54,649 --> 02:01:56,786 a ball of emotions all in me. 2136 02:01:56,851 --> 02:01:58,955 Everybody was really happy for her, 2137 02:01:59,020 --> 02:02:01,657 and they told her, "You found your family, 2138 02:02:01,722 --> 02:02:04,727 but we'll still be your family also." 2139 02:02:04,791 --> 02:02:06,327 Once I did reach out, 2140 02:02:06,393 --> 02:02:09,465 they said that nothing really changed for them. 2141 02:02:09,529 --> 02:02:11,032 They still loved me the same way. 2142 02:02:11,098 --> 02:02:12,800 I'm still their cousin. 2143 02:02:12,865 --> 02:02:15,269 But there was still a big question: 2144 02:02:15,335 --> 02:02:17,572 What would happen to Ann Pettway, 2145 02:02:17,637 --> 02:02:19,473 whom authorities believed was the one 2146 02:02:19,538 --> 02:02:22,777 who took baby Carlina from Harlem Hospital? 2147 02:02:22,841 --> 02:02:25,913 When police went looking for her in North Carolina, 2148 02:02:25,977 --> 02:02:28,816 where she'd moved, she was gone. 2149 02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:32,152 Her sister says she wanted to bring her 13-year-old son 2150 02:02:32,217 --> 02:02:35,256 to be with her family in Bridgeport Connecticut. 2151 02:02:35,319 --> 02:02:38,024 They make it out to be like she was 2152 02:02:38,088 --> 02:02:40,827 some crazed animal or something like that, 2153 02:02:40,891 --> 02:02:43,362 and--and it wasn't like that. 2154 02:02:43,427 --> 02:02:47,101 She knew she had to go and take care of her responsibilities, 2155 02:02:47,164 --> 02:02:50,102 and that's what she went to go do. 2156 02:02:51,635 --> 02:02:53,805 On January 23, 2011, 2157 02:02:53,870 --> 02:02:57,409 Ann turned herself in to authorities in Bridgeport. 2158 02:02:57,473 --> 02:03:01,447 She gave a statement saying she had caused a lot of pain, 2159 02:03:01,510 --> 02:03:03,513 but she pled "not guilty" 2160 02:03:03,579 --> 02:03:06,216 to the kidnapping charge brought against her. 2161 02:03:06,281 --> 02:03:07,917 She's upset. 2162 02:03:07,983 --> 02:03:10,787 Um, she's concerned about the impact this has 2163 02:03:10,851 --> 02:03:13,056 on all the members of her family. 2164 02:03:13,121 --> 02:03:14,857 For every court hearing, 2165 02:03:14,922 --> 02:03:17,894 members of the Pettway family and Carlina White's family 2166 02:03:17,959 --> 02:03:19,996 were on hand. 2167 02:03:20,060 --> 02:03:21,864 She act like nothin' never happened, 2168 02:03:21,929 --> 02:03:24,166 like she didn't do anything, and, um, 2169 02:03:24,231 --> 02:03:27,570 she have no remorse whatsoever. 2170 02:03:27,634 --> 02:03:31,040 My stomach feels sick when I see her. 2171 02:03:31,104 --> 02:03:33,608 But for Carlina, who was raised by Ann, 2172 02:03:33,673 --> 02:03:36,245 the subject was more complicated. 2173 02:03:36,309 --> 02:03:39,013 I would just like to know what's the reason behind it. 2174 02:03:39,077 --> 02:03:40,915 I want to know her side of the story, 2175 02:03:40,980 --> 02:03:42,349 because I don't know her side. 2176 02:03:42,414 --> 02:03:44,786 Watching the woman who raised her face jail time 2177 02:03:44,850 --> 02:03:47,654 was difficult, especially because she was 2178 02:03:47,719 --> 02:03:50,257 the one who set it in motion. 2179 02:03:50,322 --> 02:03:52,793 I didn't acknowledge that she was gonna go to jail, 2180 02:03:52,857 --> 02:03:55,929 and get tooken away, you know, from my brother, 2181 02:03:55,994 --> 02:03:57,196 and they're separated, 2182 02:03:57,261 --> 02:03:59,298 and now he has to come up without his mom. 2183 02:03:59,363 --> 02:04:01,433 I'm-a speak from my heart. 2184 02:04:01,499 --> 02:04:03,936 If I was able to give her another chance, I would. 2185 02:04:04,001 --> 02:04:06,338 Her serving time is... 2186 02:04:06,402 --> 02:04:08,240 not gonna do much. 2187 02:04:08,305 --> 02:04:09,507 The disagreement 2188 02:04:09,572 --> 02:04:11,475 over what should happen to Ann Pettway 2189 02:04:11,541 --> 02:04:15,515 caused a serious rift. 2190 02:04:15,578 --> 02:04:17,815 I think that they should lock her up, 2191 02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:19,415 and, um, throw away the key. 2192 02:04:19,481 --> 02:04:21,551 I think that she needs to do life, uh, 2193 02:04:21,616 --> 02:04:26,360 for what she did to me. 2194 02:04:26,421 --> 02:04:28,859 The anger that they givin' off 2195 02:04:28,923 --> 02:04:31,495 is only satisfyin' them. 2196 02:04:31,559 --> 02:04:34,331 It's like, you doin' that, 2197 02:04:34,395 --> 02:04:36,899 not carin' about how I'm feelin'. 2198 02:04:36,964 --> 02:04:40,203 And other disagreements developed. 2199 02:04:40,267 --> 02:04:42,337 At the reunion, a story came out 2200 02:04:42,402 --> 02:04:46,276 that Ann had mistreated Carlina as she was growing up. 2201 02:04:46,340 --> 02:04:49,245 She told me that she used to beat her with a shoe 2202 02:04:49,309 --> 02:04:51,880 and leave a shoe print on her face. 2203 02:04:51,944 --> 02:04:55,451 And, um, when she told me that, I cried. 2204 02:04:55,514 --> 02:04:57,618 For someone else to take my daughter 2205 02:04:57,683 --> 02:04:59,920 and to treat her that way, you know, 2206 02:04:59,986 --> 02:05:01,788 that was very hurtful. 2207 02:05:04,189 --> 02:05:08,330 The story caused a crisis in the Pettway family. 2208 02:05:08,393 --> 02:05:12,501 Me and Nejdra sat and cried, 2209 02:05:12,564 --> 02:05:17,039 and it hurt us so bad, because it wasn't that bad. 2210 02:05:17,101 --> 02:05:20,307 She was loved-- she was not mistreated. 2211 02:05:20,371 --> 02:05:22,074 There was no abuse. 2212 02:05:22,139 --> 02:05:24,176 I don't look at it as me being abused. 2213 02:05:24,241 --> 02:05:28,382 It's just, I guess, the words that they put out there, 2214 02:05:28,445 --> 02:05:31,617 They take, you know, what you say, mix it up 2215 02:05:31,681 --> 02:05:34,286 and make it sound as how they want it to be. 2216 02:05:36,185 --> 02:05:38,490 And then there was the question of money. 2217 02:05:38,554 --> 02:05:40,624 In a family where no one had much, 2218 02:05:40,689 --> 02:05:43,294 it became a contentious issue. 2219 02:05:43,358 --> 02:05:46,697 The settlement that Joy and Carl received from Harlem Hospital 2220 02:05:46,761 --> 02:05:49,399 had long since been spent. 2221 02:05:49,464 --> 02:05:51,935 Things were, uh, rocky, 2222 02:05:51,999 --> 02:05:53,603 with, you know, far as, uh, 2223 02:05:53,668 --> 02:05:55,938 the financial situation. 2224 02:05:56,003 --> 02:05:57,706 Um, I have kids. 2225 02:05:57,772 --> 02:05:59,841 Carl have kids, and, um, 2226 02:05:59,907 --> 02:06:01,944 we used the money to live. 2227 02:06:02,008 --> 02:06:06,350 That was a choice that we had to make at the time. 2228 02:06:06,413 --> 02:06:09,285 Carlina insisted it didn't matter. 2229 02:06:09,349 --> 02:06:12,455 I could care less about that money, 2230 02:06:12,518 --> 02:06:15,458 'cause I didn't have it from the beginning. 2231 02:06:15,521 --> 02:06:18,561 I was searchin' just to find who I was. 2232 02:06:18,625 --> 02:06:22,498 The situation, so promising in January 2011, 2233 02:06:22,561 --> 02:06:24,231 fell apart quickly. 2234 02:06:24,296 --> 02:06:26,533 She went back home, 2235 02:06:26,598 --> 02:06:29,637 so we haven't seen her since. 2236 02:06:29,701 --> 02:06:31,704 As winter turned to spring, 2237 02:06:31,770 --> 02:06:33,339 there was no second reunion. 2238 02:06:33,404 --> 02:06:36,643 In fact, there was very little communication. 2239 02:06:36,707 --> 02:06:38,777 Wow, it's like I found her and, um, 2240 02:06:38,843 --> 02:06:40,913 but she's still lost. 2241 02:06:40,978 --> 02:06:43,583 It's eatin' Joy up inside 2242 02:06:43,648 --> 02:06:46,887 to know that her daughter is alive, 2243 02:06:46,951 --> 02:06:49,021 and her daughter's not with her. 2244 02:06:49,086 --> 02:06:52,625 Her daughter's turnin' back to the people that's kidnapped her. 2245 02:06:52,689 --> 02:06:55,728 When people all of a sudden are found, 2246 02:06:55,792 --> 02:06:58,663 then there's this great, uh, brouhaha, 2247 02:06:58,727 --> 02:07:00,697 and excitement and celebration, 2248 02:07:00,762 --> 02:07:03,235 there's sort of like a halo effect that takes place, 2249 02:07:03,299 --> 02:07:06,137 and you believe everything's gonna be great from now on, 2250 02:07:06,201 --> 02:07:09,206 but these are very difficult, complicated issues. 2251 02:07:09,270 --> 02:07:12,243 They're not easily resolved. 2252 02:07:12,307 --> 02:07:14,144 Dr. Geoffrey Greif has interviewed 2253 02:07:14,209 --> 02:07:16,713 many people who were abducted as children, 2254 02:07:16,777 --> 02:07:19,249 and followed them as they became adults. 2255 02:07:19,313 --> 02:07:20,849 He says the division 2256 02:07:20,915 --> 02:07:23,352 between Carlina and her birth parents is typical. 2257 02:07:23,417 --> 02:07:25,654 There were a lot of people I've interviewed 2258 02:07:25,719 --> 02:07:28,524 who did not know that they'd even been kidnapped. 2259 02:07:28,588 --> 02:07:30,759 That would cause you to question 2260 02:07:30,824 --> 02:07:33,829 the previous 15 or 20 years of your life, 2261 02:07:33,894 --> 02:07:36,598 because you don't know what to believe anymore 2262 02:07:36,662 --> 02:07:39,801 when something that significant has been told to you 2263 02:07:39,865 --> 02:07:42,336 that's not true. 2264 02:07:42,401 --> 02:07:43,670 For the birth parents, 2265 02:07:43,736 --> 02:07:45,739 there is a different set of issues to reconcile. 2266 02:07:45,804 --> 02:07:47,374 All of the sudden, 2267 02:07:47,439 --> 02:07:49,342 they've received the child back in their life, 2268 02:07:49,408 --> 02:07:51,812 and they are apt to treat the child 2269 02:07:51,876 --> 02:07:54,347 as if the child was still very young. 2270 02:07:54,412 --> 02:07:57,384 They have to step back a long ways 2271 02:07:57,448 --> 02:07:59,953 and try and realize who this person is now 2272 02:08:00,018 --> 02:08:04,058 and try and construct a meaningful relationship 2273 02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:06,358 based on who the person is now, 2274 02:08:06,424 --> 02:08:09,195 not who they wish the person could've been 2275 02:08:09,259 --> 02:08:11,229 had they raised her. 2276 02:08:11,294 --> 02:08:12,696 Joy White said that was 2277 02:08:12,762 --> 02:08:14,832 just what she wanted to do. 2278 02:08:14,897 --> 02:08:17,167 I was havin' trouble when it first happened, 2279 02:08:17,233 --> 02:08:19,805 but I had to sit down and I had to analyze everything 2280 02:08:19,869 --> 02:08:21,739 and now I feel really bad. 2281 02:08:21,804 --> 02:08:24,175 I feel sorry for her. 2282 02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:26,009 I feel bad for her, 2283 02:08:26,075 --> 02:08:28,178 because I know that she's going through something emotion, 2284 02:08:28,244 --> 02:08:29,579 because I am too. 2285 02:08:29,644 --> 02:08:32,349 I'm her mother, and I'm going through somethin' right now. 2286 02:08:32,413 --> 02:08:34,250 But building a relationship would mean 2287 02:08:34,315 --> 02:08:36,485 accepting that her daughter was still loyal 2288 02:08:36,551 --> 02:08:39,657 to the Pettway family. 2289 02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:43,226 I'm-a have a relationship with that family, 2290 02:08:43,290 --> 02:08:45,360 and if y'all want a relationship with me 2291 02:08:45,425 --> 02:08:47,262 y'all have to be able to accept 2292 02:08:47,327 --> 02:08:49,964 that I'm still going to be affiliated with that family. 2293 02:08:50,029 --> 02:08:52,501 I look at it as I should be free to be able-- 2294 02:08:52,566 --> 02:08:54,436 to speak to who I want to speak to, 2295 02:08:54,501 --> 02:08:56,605 to consider who I want to be my aunt, 2296 02:08:56,669 --> 02:08:59,241 want to be my uncle, my cousins and my friends. 2297 02:08:59,305 --> 02:09:01,676 Even her name was an issue. 2298 02:09:01,740 --> 02:09:04,412 Legally, she was changing it to Carlina, 2299 02:09:04,477 --> 02:09:08,317 but she said she would always be Netty. 2300 02:09:08,379 --> 02:09:12,054 Nejdra and Carlina is like in between two families, 2301 02:09:12,117 --> 02:09:13,919 so one side know Nejdra, 2302 02:09:13,985 --> 02:09:15,154 the other side know Carlina. 2303 02:09:15,220 --> 02:09:16,522 So Netty is just me. 2304 02:09:16,588 --> 02:09:18,057 Go ahead, girl. 2305 02:09:18,122 --> 02:09:20,259 She was receiving help from psychologists 2306 02:09:20,324 --> 02:09:23,596 at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. 2307 02:09:23,660 --> 02:09:25,397 Netty is really a good person-- 2308 02:09:25,462 --> 02:09:28,968 really a caring person who is in the middle, 2309 02:09:29,032 --> 02:09:31,403 uh, of a--of a storm. 2310 02:09:31,467 --> 02:09:34,372 I mean, she goes from being the mom of a 5-year-old 2311 02:09:34,437 --> 02:09:37,242 with questions about her history 2312 02:09:37,307 --> 02:09:41,113 to being in the center of a media frenzy, 2313 02:09:41,176 --> 02:09:43,915 with everybody wanting a piece of her 2314 02:09:43,979 --> 02:09:46,450 and everybody wanting to talk to her 2315 02:09:46,515 --> 02:09:49,220 and use her and manipulate her. 2316 02:09:49,284 --> 02:09:53,492 And she needs some time, and some space, 2317 02:09:53,555 --> 02:09:56,459 and the ability to sort through all of this. 2318 02:09:56,524 --> 02:09:58,094 We're trying to help her do that. 2319 02:09:58,159 --> 02:10:00,429 I think that, um, one day, she'll come along, 2320 02:10:00,494 --> 02:10:02,698 and she'll understand 2321 02:10:02,763 --> 02:10:05,000 what her real mother is goin' through. 2322 02:10:05,065 --> 02:10:07,235 Carlina, listen. 2323 02:10:07,300 --> 02:10:09,604 You know your mother and father love you. 2324 02:10:09,670 --> 02:10:12,708 We had a happy beginnin', 2325 02:10:12,772 --> 02:10:14,542 and we can still make this happy. 2326 02:10:14,607 --> 02:10:16,510 We all want to see you. 2327 02:10:16,576 --> 02:10:20,282 You don't know how much love you have from all of us. 2328 02:10:20,346 --> 02:10:21,849 Through it all, 2329 02:10:21,914 --> 02:10:24,852 the young woman who found out she was Carlina White 2330 02:10:24,917 --> 02:10:26,919 said she was glad she did. 2331 02:10:26,985 --> 02:10:29,022 I look at every day as a better day 2332 02:10:29,087 --> 02:10:31,492 for me to just wake up and acknowledge 2333 02:10:31,557 --> 02:10:33,092 that I do know who I am. 2334 02:10:33,158 --> 02:10:35,061 I know who my parents are. 2335 02:10:35,126 --> 02:10:37,029 I'm good at just knowin' that. 2336 02:10:37,095 --> 02:10:39,566 And she, too, hoped that someday, 2337 02:10:39,630 --> 02:10:43,269 she would share her life with that family as well. 160077

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