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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,624 --> 00:00:06,834 - Nobody has forgotten what it was like 2 00:00:06,868 --> 00:00:10,248 to live here in that decade where Baton Rouge 3 00:00:10,286 --> 00:00:13,456 had the biggest murder rate in the country. 4 00:00:13,496 --> 00:00:14,526 - Everybody was scared. 5 00:00:14,566 --> 00:00:16,146 He was going after all ages. 6 00:00:16,188 --> 00:00:18,048 - Sheriff detectives say they found a nude body 7 00:00:18,087 --> 00:00:19,567 of a 43-year-old woman. 8 00:00:19,605 --> 00:00:21,605 - She was stabbed ever 80 times. 9 00:00:21,642 --> 00:00:24,612 - [Man] He grabbed her, was on top of her, 10 00:00:24,645 --> 00:00:25,845 was strangling her. 11 00:00:25,887 --> 00:00:26,817 - [News Anchor] The body of a woman 12 00:00:26,854 --> 00:00:28,304 has been found at Whiskey Bay. 13 00:00:28,338 --> 00:00:29,858 - Where they were bleeding, chopped up. 14 00:00:29,891 --> 00:00:31,861 He used like a hand blade. 15 00:00:31,893 --> 00:00:33,313 - This is a white female. 16 00:00:33,343 --> 00:00:35,733 - There were approximately 60 women 17 00:00:35,759 --> 00:00:38,489 who were murdered or went missing. 18 00:00:38,521 --> 00:00:40,591 - [Reporter] The mall is another place where police 19 00:00:40,626 --> 00:00:43,626 have advised women to be especially careful. 20 00:00:43,664 --> 00:00:46,674 - People were just seeing that happen and think who's next? 21 00:00:46,701 --> 00:00:48,671 - It was pretty tense here for a while. 22 00:00:48,703 --> 00:00:50,223 - I am pissed off. 23 00:00:50,257 --> 00:00:51,397 [tense music] 24 00:00:51,430 --> 00:00:53,880 - And then other bodies start to turn up. 25 00:00:53,915 --> 00:00:55,365 - It has happened again. 26 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,610 - Strangulation. 27 00:00:56,642 --> 00:00:58,202 - [Man] Both were sexually mutilated. 28 00:00:58,230 --> 00:00:59,680 - [Woman] This killer was attacking 29 00:00:59,714 --> 00:01:02,174 all over south Louisiana. 30 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,860 - Every single day about the serial killer 31 00:01:05,893 --> 00:01:08,413 or even the potential of another victim. 32 00:01:08,447 --> 00:01:10,757 - Every day we don't get this guy in jail 33 00:01:10,794 --> 00:01:12,904 could be another person that dies. 34 00:01:12,934 --> 00:01:16,704 - To go from such a friendly, laid-back town 35 00:01:16,731 --> 00:01:20,871 to this [thunder crackles] terrifying place to live. 36 00:01:20,908 --> 00:01:24,808 Everybody in South Louisiana had been affected 37 00:01:24,843 --> 00:01:26,673 by this serial killer. 38 00:01:26,707 --> 00:01:30,537 [thunder crackles] [ominous music] 39 00:01:30,573 --> 00:01:33,753 ♪ They call me 40 00:01:33,783 --> 00:01:36,483 ♪ The butcher in the Bayou 41 00:01:36,510 --> 00:01:39,550 ♪ They call me 42 00:01:39,582 --> 00:01:42,242 ♪ The butcher in the Bayou 43 00:01:42,274 --> 00:01:45,354 ♪ They call me 44 00:01:45,381 --> 00:01:48,251 ♪ The butcher in the Bayou 45 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,150 ♪ The butcher in the Bayou 46 00:01:51,180 --> 00:01:54,800 ♪ The butcher in the Bayou 47 00:01:59,912 --> 00:02:03,192 [taut strings music] 48 00:02:04,745 --> 00:02:06,745 - Baton Rouge was pretty laid-back, 49 00:02:07,610 --> 00:02:10,720 especially around LSU's campus. 50 00:02:10,751 --> 00:02:13,241 Folks would walk to and from Tigerland 51 00:02:13,271 --> 00:02:14,821 to go to Reggie's, to go to Fred's, 52 00:02:14,858 --> 00:02:16,548 to go to some of the bars there. 53 00:02:16,584 --> 00:02:18,904 - As far as I can recall, I'd never remember 54 00:02:18,931 --> 00:02:21,521 there being any threat of any crime. 55 00:02:21,555 --> 00:02:23,205 I mean, I'm sure there was something going, you know, 56 00:02:23,246 --> 00:02:24,866 always going around somewhere, 'cause they always do, 57 00:02:24,903 --> 00:02:27,353 but even the areas surrounding LSU, 58 00:02:27,388 --> 00:02:28,318 I remember it being safe. 59 00:02:28,355 --> 00:02:30,315 It was just a bunch of kids. 60 00:02:30,357 --> 00:02:32,767 [taut music] 61 00:02:36,777 --> 00:02:37,877 - My name is Susan Mustafa. 62 00:02:37,916 --> 00:02:40,846 I'm a true crime author and serial killer expert. 63 00:02:40,884 --> 00:02:43,784 I moved to Baton Rouge in 2000 64 00:02:43,818 --> 00:02:44,918 because my sister told me 65 00:02:44,957 --> 00:02:46,647 it was a safe place to live. 66 00:02:46,683 --> 00:02:49,863 [ominous music] 67 00:02:49,893 --> 00:02:51,213 Charlotte Murray Pace, 68 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,450 or Murray, as her family called her, 69 00:02:53,483 --> 00:02:56,383 had just graduated from LSU 70 00:02:56,417 --> 00:02:59,727 and was planning to move to Atlanta 71 00:02:59,765 --> 00:03:03,835 at the end of the summer of 2002. 72 00:03:04,839 --> 00:03:07,699 She had recently moved to a new townhouse 73 00:03:07,739 --> 00:03:09,529 with her roommate, Rebecca, 74 00:03:09,568 --> 00:03:13,468 and on May 31st, she was at her new home 75 00:03:13,503 --> 00:03:15,473 when someone knocked at the door. 76 00:03:16,713 --> 00:03:19,583 In South Louisiana, everybody's friendly. 77 00:03:19,613 --> 00:03:21,483 If someone knocks at your door, 78 00:03:21,511 --> 00:03:22,861 you don't look through the peephole. 79 00:03:22,892 --> 00:03:23,762 You answer your door, 80 00:03:23,789 --> 00:03:24,859 "Hi, how you doing?" 81 00:03:24,894 --> 00:03:26,484 So Charlotte Murray Pace, 82 00:03:26,516 --> 00:03:29,376 on the afternoon of May 31st, 83 00:03:29,416 --> 00:03:31,726 opened her door to a killer. 84 00:03:31,763 --> 00:03:34,733 [suspenseful music] 85 00:03:37,596 --> 00:03:40,246 [siren blaring] 86 00:03:41,807 --> 00:03:42,907 - My name is Pat Englade. 87 00:03:42,946 --> 00:03:45,946 I was Chief of Police for the city of Baton Rouge, 88 00:03:45,984 --> 00:03:49,884 starting in the year 2000 through to the end of 2004. 89 00:03:51,507 --> 00:03:53,987 Well, I was actually, I was leaving an event that day, 90 00:03:54,026 --> 00:03:57,686 and I got a phone call from my chief of detectives, 91 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,480 who told me that we had had a female that was killed 92 00:04:01,517 --> 00:04:03,857 just adjacent to the LSU campus. 93 00:04:05,314 --> 00:04:07,354 While it was unusual, 94 00:04:07,385 --> 00:04:09,935 it was not something that was not heard of. 95 00:04:10,802 --> 00:04:12,462 As we talked about the case, 96 00:04:12,493 --> 00:04:15,013 they said it was a very gruesome crime scene. 97 00:04:15,047 --> 00:04:16,497 It was very bad. 98 00:04:16,532 --> 00:04:17,842 [suspenseful music] 99 00:04:17,878 --> 00:04:20,638 - There were definitely signs of a struggle 100 00:04:20,674 --> 00:04:22,684 in that apartment, 101 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:24,820 that Charlotte Murray Pace fought back. 102 00:04:24,850 --> 00:04:28,270 - She was stabbed ever 80 times in her own apartment. 103 00:04:29,338 --> 00:04:31,718 [suspenseful music] 104 00:04:31,754 --> 00:04:32,624 - [Woman] It was horrific. 105 00:04:32,651 --> 00:04:36,071 It was one of the most brutal things 106 00:04:36,103 --> 00:04:39,003 that had ever happened in the city of Baton Rouge. 107 00:04:40,970 --> 00:04:42,490 - But she fought back. 108 00:04:42,523 --> 00:04:44,563 I remember the coroner telling me, 109 00:04:44,594 --> 00:04:45,874 he was like, you know, "I could tell 110 00:04:45,906 --> 00:04:48,766 that this victim really, really put up a fight." 111 00:04:48,805 --> 00:04:50,635 - She fought for her life. 112 00:04:50,669 --> 00:04:51,909 She scratched him. 113 00:04:51,946 --> 00:04:55,426 She got his skin cells under her fingernails. 114 00:04:55,467 --> 00:04:58,817 [suspenseful music] 115 00:04:58,850 --> 00:05:01,820 - This was a young, beautiful woman 116 00:05:01,853 --> 00:05:03,823 who this shouldn't have happened to. 117 00:05:03,855 --> 00:05:05,925 And it was in a safe area. 118 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,900 And police had no idea who had committed this crime. 119 00:05:10,931 --> 00:05:13,521 [suspenseful music] 120 00:05:13,554 --> 00:05:15,144 - Little early in the game at that point 121 00:05:15,176 --> 00:05:19,526 to figure out whether we had some kind of domestic issue. 122 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,600 At that point, we really didn't know what was going on. 123 00:05:22,632 --> 00:05:26,122 We just knew that we had a young white female 124 00:05:26,153 --> 00:05:29,403 violently killed and probably raped. 125 00:05:29,432 --> 00:05:31,952 [suspenseful music] 126 00:05:31,986 --> 00:05:33,946 - For those of us that were faculty at LSU, 127 00:05:33,988 --> 00:05:36,678 I mean the thought that a star pupil 128 00:05:36,715 --> 00:05:37,845 that had performed so well 129 00:05:37,889 --> 00:05:42,449 and had such a great academic career as a young woman, 130 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,000 and thinking of her future, I mean, it was very, 131 00:05:46,035 --> 00:05:47,445 I mean, alarming wouldn't be the word for it, 132 00:05:47,485 --> 00:05:48,865 it was just depressing. 133 00:05:50,557 --> 00:05:52,967 [somber music] 134 00:05:55,182 --> 00:05:58,052 [upbeat music] 135 00:05:58,081 --> 00:06:00,641 - Baton Rouge has always been a very friendly town 136 00:06:00,670 --> 00:06:03,020 and the people here have always gotten along. 137 00:06:03,052 --> 00:06:05,162 - We grew up where you trusted your neighbors 138 00:06:05,192 --> 00:06:07,992 and your kids were able to run free. 139 00:06:08,022 --> 00:06:09,132 [audience cheering] 140 00:06:09,161 --> 00:06:14,411 - It's a small town atmosphere with a city demeanor. 141 00:06:15,996 --> 00:06:18,956 - Baton Rouge is pretty bad as far as crime rate goes. 142 00:06:18,999 --> 00:06:20,899 You can't turn on TV without hearing 143 00:06:20,932 --> 00:06:23,492 about some homicide in Baton Rouge. 144 00:06:23,521 --> 00:06:25,111 - Meanwhile, we have some important new answers 145 00:06:25,143 --> 00:06:26,973 about the body of a woman found murdered 146 00:06:27,007 --> 00:06:29,457 on Pride Port Hudson Road three weeks ago. 147 00:06:29,492 --> 00:06:31,222 - Sheriff detectives say they found the nude body 148 00:06:31,252 --> 00:06:32,982 of a 43-year-old woman. 149 00:06:33,013 --> 00:06:35,053 - We have learned from our own eyes 150 00:06:35,084 --> 00:06:36,194 that this is a white female. 151 00:06:36,223 --> 00:06:38,983 - The body was found just south of the LSU campus. 152 00:06:42,471 --> 00:06:45,131 [suspenseful music] 153 00:06:45,163 --> 00:06:47,923 - Baton Rouge is surrounded by water. 154 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:50,439 There are bayous and spillways. 155 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:53,829 So, lots of places that you could dump a body 156 00:06:53,861 --> 00:06:55,101 and not be seen. 157 00:06:55,138 --> 00:06:57,038 [suspenseful music] 158 00:06:57,071 --> 00:06:59,591 - And around 2002, we start having 159 00:06:59,626 --> 00:07:02,936 strange plethora of murders taking place. 160 00:07:02,974 --> 00:07:05,084 This was developing a pattern 161 00:07:05,114 --> 00:07:06,984 and when it leaked out to the public, 162 00:07:07,012 --> 00:07:09,122 the public became alarmed. 163 00:07:09,152 --> 00:07:13,742 And so the public became completely astonished 164 00:07:13,778 --> 00:07:18,508 to the point where the whole metropolis area 165 00:07:18,541 --> 00:07:21,271 of central Louisiana went on lockdown. 166 00:07:21,302 --> 00:07:24,032 - We had almost 30 unsolved murders, 167 00:07:24,064 --> 00:07:25,694 and that's just women. 168 00:07:25,721 --> 00:07:27,691 - That year, Baton Rouge 169 00:07:27,723 --> 00:07:30,483 had the biggest murder rate in the country. 170 00:07:33,245 --> 00:07:36,245 [taut strings music] 171 00:07:47,984 --> 00:07:50,504 For most people, when August is over, 172 00:07:50,539 --> 00:07:53,819 you think summer's over, but in south Louisiana, 173 00:07:53,852 --> 00:07:55,032 that's just not the case. 174 00:07:55,060 --> 00:07:57,130 September is hot. 175 00:07:58,685 --> 00:08:01,165 It is at the height of hurricane season. 176 00:08:01,204 --> 00:08:04,074 The Gulf of Mexico is super warm, 177 00:08:04,104 --> 00:08:06,694 which gives rise to hurricanes, 178 00:08:06,727 --> 00:08:09,247 and people in Louisiana leave their windows, 179 00:08:09,281 --> 00:08:14,111 their doors open, to try to combat the sweltering heat. 180 00:08:15,322 --> 00:08:18,152 [suspenseful music] 181 00:08:22,191 --> 00:08:27,201 Gina Wilson Green was vivacious and beautiful. 182 00:08:28,162 --> 00:08:32,032 She was a nurse, who lived her life 183 00:08:32,063 --> 00:08:33,243 to try to help people. 184 00:08:33,271 --> 00:08:35,171 [suspenseful music] 185 00:08:35,204 --> 00:08:38,934 She lived on Stanford Avenue in Baton Rouge, 186 00:08:38,966 --> 00:08:42,556 which is an area that's not far from LSU. 187 00:08:42,591 --> 00:08:46,771 She had a cute little cottage that she lived in. 188 00:08:46,802 --> 00:08:48,842 She enjoyed living by herself, 189 00:08:48,873 --> 00:08:52,843 but in the days before September 23rd, 2001, 190 00:08:52,877 --> 00:08:55,667 she told her mother that she felt like 191 00:08:55,707 --> 00:08:57,677 someone was watching her. 192 00:08:57,709 --> 00:09:00,129 [suspenseful music] 193 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,160 On the night of September 23rd, 194 00:09:02,196 --> 00:09:05,056 Gina Wilson Green went to bed like she did, 195 00:09:05,096 --> 00:09:06,786 preparing to get up to go to work 196 00:09:06,822 --> 00:09:08,242 the next morning. 197 00:09:08,271 --> 00:09:09,721 [suspenseful music] 198 00:09:09,756 --> 00:09:13,966 At 3:47 a.m., her alarm went off in her home. 199 00:09:14,001 --> 00:09:15,311 The security company called. 200 00:09:15,347 --> 00:09:18,037 She assured them that everything was okay. 201 00:09:18,074 --> 00:09:19,564 And she went back to sleep. 202 00:09:20,249 --> 00:09:23,249 [suspenseful music] 203 00:09:24,736 --> 00:09:27,876 The next morning, she didn't show up for work. 204 00:09:27,912 --> 00:09:32,682 One of her coworkers went to her home and went inside. 205 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:34,990 And as he walked down the hall, 206 00:09:35,022 --> 00:09:38,162 he saw Gina lying face down on her bed, 207 00:09:38,198 --> 00:09:39,918 with her arm hanging off. 208 00:09:39,958 --> 00:09:41,718 And he called police. 209 00:09:41,753 --> 00:09:43,203 When police arrived at Gina's home, 210 00:09:43,237 --> 00:09:44,857 the back door was unlocked. 211 00:09:44,894 --> 00:09:47,004 They discovered articles of clothing 212 00:09:47,034 --> 00:09:48,384 along the way to her bedroom. 213 00:09:49,727 --> 00:09:52,107 - Gina Green was found in her bed. 214 00:09:52,143 --> 00:09:53,213 She was naked. 215 00:09:53,247 --> 00:09:54,657 She had been strangled. 216 00:09:54,697 --> 00:09:56,767 It appeared that she'd actually been strangled 217 00:09:56,803 --> 00:10:00,153 in the hallway, and that they had moved her body, 218 00:10:00,185 --> 00:10:02,285 at some point, into her bed. 219 00:10:02,325 --> 00:10:04,155 [suspenseful music] 220 00:10:04,189 --> 00:10:09,259 - The attack seemed personal because, you know, 221 00:10:09,298 --> 00:10:12,718 she had been killed with the killer's own hands. 222 00:10:12,750 --> 00:10:16,750 So police didn't quite know where to look 223 00:10:16,788 --> 00:10:20,928 to try to find the person who had violated Gina 224 00:10:20,965 --> 00:10:22,375 in this manner. 225 00:10:22,414 --> 00:10:25,874 But no clues really emerged outside of the fact 226 00:10:25,901 --> 00:10:28,731 that one of her neighbors told police 227 00:10:28,766 --> 00:10:31,766 that they saw a white man in a white pickup truck 228 00:10:34,288 --> 00:10:37,808 driving off that night from Gina's house. 229 00:10:37,844 --> 00:10:41,404 [taut strings music] 230 00:10:41,433 --> 00:10:44,893 [bright strings music] 231 00:10:50,891 --> 00:10:53,271 In Baton Rouge, the Mississippi River 232 00:10:53,307 --> 00:10:55,167 runs around the city, 233 00:10:55,206 --> 00:10:58,276 and levees are built to protect the city 234 00:10:58,312 --> 00:11:00,182 whenever the river floods. 235 00:11:00,211 --> 00:11:03,731 And joggers like to jog along the top of the levee. 236 00:11:03,766 --> 00:11:07,176 It makes a great place to have an uninterrupted run. 237 00:11:07,218 --> 00:11:08,908 And it's beautiful scenery. 238 00:11:08,944 --> 00:11:10,264 - I bought the house here because 239 00:11:10,290 --> 00:11:11,460 I was a runner at that time, 240 00:11:11,498 --> 00:11:13,018 and I bought the house here 241 00:11:13,051 --> 00:11:14,811 so I could run around the lakes. 242 00:11:14,846 --> 00:11:17,116 [taut strings music] 243 00:11:17,159 --> 00:11:19,199 That's what a lot of runners did. 244 00:11:19,230 --> 00:11:22,510 Particularly, long-distance runners would run on the levee. 245 00:11:22,543 --> 00:11:26,063 And so you could go out and then you could either run 246 00:11:26,099 --> 00:11:29,139 one way to downtown, or run the other way 247 00:11:29,171 --> 00:11:32,421 into a more rural part of River Road in the levee. 248 00:11:35,418 --> 00:11:39,768 - Christine Moore was an LSU student, very athletic, 249 00:11:39,802 --> 00:11:42,362 who enjoyed jogging down River Road, 250 00:11:42,391 --> 00:11:44,261 safe area of Baton Rouge. 251 00:11:44,289 --> 00:11:46,329 But on this particular day, 252 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,780 as she was jogging, 253 00:11:47,810 --> 00:11:49,950 someone approached her. 254 00:11:49,985 --> 00:11:52,985 [suspenseful music] 255 00:11:54,368 --> 00:11:59,408 She parked her car at Farr Horse Activity Center 256 00:11:59,442 --> 00:12:04,412 and went off on her jog on the morning of the 23rd of May. 257 00:12:04,447 --> 00:12:06,797 And two days later, her car 258 00:12:06,829 --> 00:12:09,799 would still be parked in the parking lot. 259 00:12:09,832 --> 00:12:12,902 Her attacker must have grabbed her unexpectedly 260 00:12:12,939 --> 00:12:15,389 because Christine was very fit 261 00:12:15,424 --> 00:12:18,774 and she could have warded off most offenders, 262 00:12:18,807 --> 00:12:22,287 but she was unable to get away from this one. 263 00:12:22,327 --> 00:12:26,257 And he took her, he beat her, and he killed her. 264 00:12:26,297 --> 00:12:29,157 And then he left her body in a bayou. 265 00:12:29,196 --> 00:12:32,056 [suspenseful music] 266 00:12:32,096 --> 00:12:35,406 - Her remains were found down here 267 00:12:35,444 --> 00:12:37,794 by Ebenezer Baptist Church, 268 00:12:39,413 --> 00:12:42,353 which is a older, an African American church 269 00:12:42,382 --> 00:12:45,322 that's right on the levee, right across from the levee. 270 00:12:45,350 --> 00:12:49,110 And that was where they found her skeletal remains. 271 00:12:49,147 --> 00:12:51,317 [suspenseful music] 272 00:12:51,356 --> 00:12:54,496 - Christine's body would not be found for a month. 273 00:12:55,844 --> 00:12:58,404 It was pretty brazen for Christine's attacker 274 00:12:58,432 --> 00:13:01,402 to leave her right in that particular area, 275 00:13:01,435 --> 00:13:04,085 because there was so much traffic in that area. 276 00:13:04,128 --> 00:13:05,368 And on Sunday mornings, 277 00:13:05,405 --> 00:13:08,125 all of the churchgoers gather outside. 278 00:13:08,166 --> 00:13:11,236 They have dinner on the ground, which is here. 279 00:13:11,273 --> 00:13:14,313 It's a picnic outdoors after Sunday worship. 280 00:13:14,345 --> 00:13:18,415 And it was actually some deacons at the church 281 00:13:18,452 --> 00:13:23,222 who discovered a human skull on the grounds of the church 282 00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:24,460 right next to the bayou. 283 00:13:25,321 --> 00:13:27,361 [pensive music] 284 00:13:27,392 --> 00:13:29,912 - You know, to be honest, I mean, 285 00:13:29,947 --> 00:13:34,567 she wasn't the kind of girl that would disappear. 286 00:13:34,606 --> 00:13:37,886 And so everybody really presumed 287 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,610 that the killer had gotten her. 288 00:13:40,612 --> 00:13:43,372 [somber music] 289 00:13:44,547 --> 00:13:45,997 And so they're telling women, 290 00:13:46,032 --> 00:13:47,862 "Don't run the levees by yourself. 291 00:13:47,896 --> 00:13:49,066 Don't go early in the morning. 292 00:13:49,104 --> 00:13:50,424 Don't go after dark. 293 00:13:50,450 --> 00:13:53,590 Don't wear earplugs in your ears." 294 00:13:53,625 --> 00:13:56,485 And it was definitely a heightened sense 295 00:13:56,525 --> 00:13:58,455 of security at that time. 296 00:13:58,492 --> 00:14:00,252 I mean, everybody was scared. 297 00:14:00,287 --> 00:14:03,217 We all knew we all were in danger. 298 00:14:03,256 --> 00:14:04,596 He was going after all ages. 299 00:14:04,636 --> 00:14:06,326 And so even though at that time, 300 00:14:06,362 --> 00:14:09,232 I was mid-40s to late 40s, I mean, 301 00:14:09,262 --> 00:14:11,682 I definitely felt that I needed to be careful 302 00:14:11,712 --> 00:14:13,132 and that I could be a victim 303 00:14:13,162 --> 00:14:15,232 just like everybody else could have been. 304 00:14:17,615 --> 00:14:21,065 [mellow strings music] 305 00:14:24,691 --> 00:14:27,871 [suspenseful music] 306 00:14:32,285 --> 00:14:34,425 - Connie Lynn Warner was sitting in her home, 307 00:14:34,459 --> 00:14:37,359 cross stitching, which is something that she enjoyed doing. 308 00:14:37,393 --> 00:14:39,603 Her daughter, Tracy, was away for the evening. 309 00:14:41,121 --> 00:14:42,991 That night, someone broke into her home 310 00:14:43,020 --> 00:14:44,920 and changed everything for Connie. 311 00:14:46,092 --> 00:14:48,302 Her body would be found a few days later 312 00:14:48,335 --> 00:14:51,165 by the Capitol Lake, near downtown Baton Rouge. 313 00:14:52,581 --> 00:14:55,001 - The suspect evidently gained entry into the house. 314 00:14:55,032 --> 00:14:57,522 And that's where the attack began. 315 00:14:57,551 --> 00:14:59,521 Struggle all the way into the bedroom area. 316 00:14:59,553 --> 00:15:02,353 She was carried outside of the house. 317 00:15:02,384 --> 00:15:05,704 We saw blood droplets by the washer-dryer, 318 00:15:05,732 --> 00:15:09,492 which no one ever comes in that way or goes out that way. 319 00:15:09,529 --> 00:15:11,459 Her car was used to transport her body 320 00:15:11,496 --> 00:15:13,016 to the site down in Baton Rouge, 321 00:15:13,050 --> 00:15:14,430 where she was dumped out, 322 00:15:14,465 --> 00:15:16,985 and brought back to the scene. 323 00:15:17,019 --> 00:15:19,129 Connie Warner's body was in terrible condition. 324 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:22,509 Hurricane Andrew had came through Louisiana about that time, 325 00:15:22,542 --> 00:15:25,682 wiped out any evidence or anything that could give us 326 00:15:25,717 --> 00:15:28,997 a clue to what may have happened to her. 327 00:15:29,031 --> 00:15:32,171 You do not have murders like that in Zachary. 328 00:15:32,207 --> 00:15:34,517 Last one I could think of might have been 329 00:15:34,554 --> 00:15:36,454 five or six years before that. 330 00:15:36,487 --> 00:15:39,077 And before that, probably 10 to 20 years. 331 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:40,660 It just didn't happen in Zachary. 332 00:15:42,424 --> 00:15:45,674 [mellow strings music] 333 00:15:52,192 --> 00:15:53,682 This town was a small knit community, 334 00:15:53,711 --> 00:15:55,641 around two or 3,000 people. 335 00:15:55,678 --> 00:15:57,268 On Sundays after church would go down 336 00:15:57,301 --> 00:15:59,061 to a local watering hole, 337 00:15:59,096 --> 00:16:02,306 swim, and then get-togethers and that. 338 00:16:02,340 --> 00:16:03,760 [mellow strings music] 339 00:16:03,790 --> 00:16:06,000 I know this area like the back of my hand. 340 00:16:06,034 --> 00:16:08,384 So, I mean, coming up on Highway 64 341 00:16:08,415 --> 00:16:09,515 was a two-lane street now. 342 00:16:09,554 --> 00:16:10,734 It has three different names, 343 00:16:10,762 --> 00:16:15,352 Highway 64, Church Street, and Main Street. 344 00:16:15,388 --> 00:16:17,558 So this was two-lane at one time. 345 00:16:17,597 --> 00:16:20,147 Across the way over there was a movie theater. 346 00:16:20,186 --> 00:16:21,496 And like I said, the fire department's there. 347 00:16:21,532 --> 00:16:24,502 At one time, that was a grocery store. 348 00:16:24,535 --> 00:16:26,735 So you have a lot of traffic coming through Zachary. 349 00:16:29,367 --> 00:16:31,647 People work together here to make sure 350 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,610 this is a great place to live and to own a business. 351 00:16:33,647 --> 00:16:36,127 I mean, this is what Zachary's all about. 352 00:16:36,167 --> 00:16:37,507 We're helping each other. 353 00:16:37,548 --> 00:16:40,208 You know, I've lived here since '69. 354 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,550 It's always been great for me. 355 00:16:42,587 --> 00:16:45,587 [suspenseful music] 356 00:16:48,628 --> 00:16:52,078 We're coming up on where Connie Warner lived at. 357 00:16:52,114 --> 00:16:54,324 This is the neighborhood Oak shadows. 358 00:16:54,358 --> 00:16:56,258 Most of the streets in here, all the streets in here 359 00:16:56,291 --> 00:17:00,671 are biblical names, Saul, Eli, Leviticus, Job. 360 00:17:00,709 --> 00:17:03,059 [suspenseful music] 361 00:17:03,091 --> 00:17:04,611 This is where she lived at right there. 362 00:17:04,644 --> 00:17:06,584 That was her house. 363 00:17:06,611 --> 00:17:09,411 Her car was parked right underneath the carport. 364 00:17:09,442 --> 00:17:11,272 You know, where the door is right there, 365 00:17:11,306 --> 00:17:12,616 that's where her washroom was at. 366 00:17:12,652 --> 00:17:14,722 That's where he brought her body out 367 00:17:14,757 --> 00:17:16,377 and put her in the car and took off 368 00:17:16,414 --> 00:17:18,804 and went dumped her body in Baton Rouge now. 369 00:17:18,830 --> 00:17:20,490 She never let nobody in the house. 370 00:17:20,522 --> 00:17:23,422 So we knew that, and that was the scary part about it. 371 00:17:23,456 --> 00:17:26,076 He evidently conned his way into the house. 372 00:17:26,114 --> 00:17:28,364 I know some of the tricks that this suspect would use 373 00:17:28,392 --> 00:17:29,882 sometimes to get in these houses. 374 00:17:29,910 --> 00:17:31,500 "My car has broke down. 375 00:17:31,533 --> 00:17:34,123 I need to borrow your phone," and stuff like that. 376 00:17:34,156 --> 00:17:36,706 And that goes back to some of the other cases we worked. 377 00:17:38,229 --> 00:17:40,749 - Nobody really had any clues 378 00:17:40,783 --> 00:17:44,343 as to what had happened to Connie Lynn Warner. 379 00:17:44,373 --> 00:17:47,203 The police investigated and tried to find 380 00:17:47,238 --> 00:17:48,578 who the killer was, 381 00:17:48,619 --> 00:17:52,759 but he had left no evidence behind him. 382 00:17:52,795 --> 00:17:55,065 So basically, her case went cold. 383 00:17:58,629 --> 00:18:01,629 [suspenseful music] 384 00:18:04,290 --> 00:18:05,710 It was a dark night. 385 00:18:05,739 --> 00:18:09,609 Two teenagers were parked in the Buhler Plains Cemetery, 386 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,680 which is located near Oak Shadows subdivision. 387 00:18:12,712 --> 00:18:14,922 [suspenseful music] [rain pouring] 388 00:18:14,955 --> 00:18:16,605 It was storming that night. 389 00:18:16,647 --> 00:18:20,307 Louisiana has these horrible thunderstorms 390 00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:23,590 that can seem close to hurricanes at times. 391 00:18:23,619 --> 00:18:25,139 [thunder rumbling] 392 00:18:25,173 --> 00:18:27,833 Teenagers were making out in the car 393 00:18:27,865 --> 00:18:30,895 when the door opens and a man wielding an ax 394 00:18:30,937 --> 00:18:32,797 began hacking at them. 395 00:18:32,835 --> 00:18:34,315 [suspenseful music] 396 00:18:34,354 --> 00:18:35,914 - One of our officers was driving down the road, 397 00:18:35,942 --> 00:18:38,702 saw the dome light on, drove up, 398 00:18:38,738 --> 00:18:41,808 and he saw them in the car. 399 00:18:41,844 --> 00:18:44,264 They were bleeding, chopped up a little bit or, 400 00:18:44,295 --> 00:18:47,885 what I mean that he used like a hand blade to chop 'em. 401 00:18:49,197 --> 00:18:51,367 It was a pretty violent case, you know, 402 00:18:51,406 --> 00:18:53,366 had a lot of cuts on 'em and stuff like that, 403 00:18:53,408 --> 00:18:54,718 had cuts in the roof of the car 404 00:18:54,754 --> 00:18:57,584 where he was using the hack blade to, you know, 405 00:18:57,619 --> 00:18:59,169 hack at 'em a little bit there. 406 00:19:00,622 --> 00:19:02,762 They were right in this area coming up right here 407 00:19:02,796 --> 00:19:05,626 where this cross is at, right here on the roadway. 408 00:19:05,661 --> 00:19:07,731 And like I said, we found fishing rods 409 00:19:07,767 --> 00:19:09,667 and a jacket right here in this area, 410 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:11,840 along with the blade that he was cutting them up with. 411 00:19:11,874 --> 00:19:13,364 So evidently, he was coming back 412 00:19:13,393 --> 00:19:14,573 through the wood line there. 413 00:19:14,601 --> 00:19:18,261 But they were parked right in this vicinity right here. 414 00:19:18,295 --> 00:19:21,295 [suspenseful music] 415 00:19:25,716 --> 00:19:26,646 - [Susan] Both of these teenagers 416 00:19:26,682 --> 00:19:29,752 were deeply traumatized by this experience. 417 00:19:29,789 --> 00:19:31,199 They were just hanging out, 418 00:19:31,239 --> 00:19:32,719 wanting to spend some time with each other, 419 00:19:32,757 --> 00:19:35,657 and a madman changed their lives. 420 00:19:37,521 --> 00:19:39,801 - He had cut them, one in the head and one in the leg, 421 00:19:39,833 --> 00:19:41,973 and was about to do some more damage 422 00:19:42,008 --> 00:19:43,558 and cut them up some more. 423 00:19:43,596 --> 00:19:45,696 But the police car pulled into here, 424 00:19:45,736 --> 00:19:48,286 behind the two victims' car. 425 00:19:48,325 --> 00:19:50,835 And the suspect saw that, reached back in, 426 00:19:50,879 --> 00:19:54,779 and grabbed the keys and ran off into a south direction. 427 00:19:55,746 --> 00:19:58,986 He saw the opportunity, saw a female in there. 428 00:19:59,025 --> 00:20:00,505 He figured he had that hack blade. 429 00:20:00,544 --> 00:20:02,864 He could overpower 'em and, you know, 430 00:20:02,891 --> 00:20:05,481 kill them and get his sexual gratification. 431 00:20:05,514 --> 00:20:07,724 But for some reason, the cop saw it, 432 00:20:07,758 --> 00:20:11,658 drove up and that stopped the whole scene there. 433 00:20:11,693 --> 00:20:13,733 [suspenseful music] 434 00:20:13,764 --> 00:20:15,704 - Because the police were on the scene 435 00:20:15,731 --> 00:20:16,871 as this was happening, 436 00:20:16,905 --> 00:20:19,835 they took this very seriously, 437 00:20:19,873 --> 00:20:21,883 but no link was made 438 00:20:21,910 --> 00:20:24,400 between the attack on the teenagers 439 00:20:24,430 --> 00:20:26,570 and Connie Lynn Warner's body 440 00:20:26,604 --> 00:20:28,814 that had been found in Baton Rouge. 441 00:20:28,848 --> 00:20:31,298 Even though the cemetery was right next 442 00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:34,753 to the subdivision that Connie Lynn Warner lived in, 443 00:20:34,785 --> 00:20:35,985 it seemed too different. 444 00:20:36,027 --> 00:20:38,477 There was not a lot of similarities 445 00:20:38,513 --> 00:20:41,693 in what had happened in each instance. 446 00:20:41,723 --> 00:20:44,903 So police did not link these two cases. 447 00:20:44,933 --> 00:20:48,013 [suspenseful music] 448 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:50,729 Randi Mebruer was a beautiful young woman 449 00:20:50,766 --> 00:20:52,766 who lived in Oak Shadows subdivision, 450 00:20:52,803 --> 00:20:55,913 one block over from where Connie Lynn Warner 451 00:20:55,944 --> 00:20:58,714 had lived six years before. 452 00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:00,850 Randi was a home healthcare nurse. 453 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,430 She had a three-year-old son named Michael. 454 00:21:03,469 --> 00:21:06,329 She was recently divorced, living by herself, 455 00:21:06,368 --> 00:21:07,678 raising her son. 456 00:21:08,853 --> 00:21:10,993 On the night of April 18th, 1998, 457 00:21:11,028 --> 00:21:12,888 Randi Mebruer disappeared. 458 00:21:14,065 --> 00:21:15,755 The next morning, her neighbor 459 00:21:15,791 --> 00:21:18,861 spotted her son, Michael, in her front yard. 460 00:21:18,898 --> 00:21:21,348 And he had blood all over him. 461 00:21:21,383 --> 00:21:24,353 [suspenseful music] 462 00:21:26,008 --> 00:21:27,318 - This is Randi Mebruer's house 463 00:21:27,355 --> 00:21:29,115 where she was abducted and murdered at. 464 00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:31,769 Next door was the neighbor where her child 465 00:21:31,807 --> 00:21:33,597 had left out the house and went next door, 466 00:21:33,637 --> 00:21:36,467 stating, "I wanna play with your children." 467 00:21:36,502 --> 00:21:37,682 You know, the neighbor said, 468 00:21:37,710 --> 00:21:38,990 "Well, let's go talk to your mama." 469 00:21:39,021 --> 00:21:42,441 And he stated that mama was not there. 470 00:21:42,473 --> 00:21:43,683 The neighbor came next door 471 00:21:43,716 --> 00:21:45,646 and saw the pool of blood on the carport, 472 00:21:45,683 --> 00:21:49,003 but also saw the blood and different things 473 00:21:49,031 --> 00:21:51,381 throughout the house that were in disarray. 474 00:21:51,413 --> 00:21:53,803 The neighbor backed out and called the police department. 475 00:21:53,829 --> 00:21:56,069 That's when we arrived on the scene here. 476 00:21:56,107 --> 00:21:58,657 [suspenseful music] 477 00:21:58,696 --> 00:22:00,556 - When they walked into Randi's home, 478 00:22:00,595 --> 00:22:03,935 the scene that they found there was horrific. 479 00:22:03,977 --> 00:22:06,837 There was blood in her bedroom. 480 00:22:06,877 --> 00:22:10,047 There was a bloody hand print on Michael's door, 481 00:22:10,087 --> 00:22:12,497 on the door of her child. 482 00:22:12,538 --> 00:22:14,608 There was blood in the living room. 483 00:22:16,058 --> 00:22:17,538 - You know, it's a pretty violent scene. 484 00:22:17,577 --> 00:22:20,857 We see the contacts of the victim in the floor 485 00:22:20,891 --> 00:22:23,031 where she was drug from the bedroom outside. 486 00:22:23,065 --> 00:22:27,475 And, of course, her car was used to remove her body. 487 00:22:27,518 --> 00:22:29,828 And also, her car keys were missing. 488 00:22:29,865 --> 00:22:31,895 [suspenseful music] 489 00:22:31,936 --> 00:22:32,936 We searched the area. 490 00:22:32,972 --> 00:22:34,772 We used helicopters. 491 00:22:34,801 --> 00:22:35,731 We used boats. 492 00:22:35,768 --> 00:22:36,838 We used trucks. 493 00:22:36,872 --> 00:22:38,742 We went all out in the back woods of these areas, 494 00:22:38,771 --> 00:22:40,701 looking and searching for weeks. 495 00:22:40,738 --> 00:22:41,878 Never found her body. 496 00:22:41,912 --> 00:22:44,882 [suspenseful music] 497 00:22:44,915 --> 00:22:48,675 - For police, this was almost an open and shut case 498 00:22:48,712 --> 00:22:52,062 because Randi had recently been divorced 499 00:22:52,094 --> 00:22:57,104 and like many people in that situation, it wasn't amicable. 500 00:22:58,031 --> 00:23:00,481 The police immediately began looking 501 00:23:00,517 --> 00:23:02,897 into Randi's ex-husband, Michael. 502 00:23:03,934 --> 00:23:06,904 They had a strange relationship. 503 00:23:06,937 --> 00:23:10,007 They were divorced, but they still saw each other. 504 00:23:10,043 --> 00:23:12,493 They were occasionally intimate with each other, 505 00:23:12,529 --> 00:23:14,979 but they would also fight with each other. 506 00:23:15,014 --> 00:23:17,054 - We brought him in and talked to him, 507 00:23:17,085 --> 00:23:18,805 put him on a polygraph. 508 00:23:18,845 --> 00:23:19,845 He failed the polygraph. 509 00:23:19,881 --> 00:23:21,681 That was concerning to us. 510 00:23:21,710 --> 00:23:23,090 My thoughts were, you know, 511 00:23:23,125 --> 00:23:24,885 why would you leave your child like that? 512 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,750 You know, maybe you wanna escape the murder charge, 513 00:23:26,784 --> 00:23:28,654 but why would you leave your child like that 514 00:23:28,683 --> 00:23:31,513 in that type of scene, blood everywhere? 515 00:23:31,548 --> 00:23:33,238 And to him to see all that, 516 00:23:33,273 --> 00:23:35,693 what kind of trauma would that give that child? 517 00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:40,070 [suspenseful music] 518 00:23:40,108 --> 00:23:41,448 - My name's Todd Morris. 519 00:23:41,489 --> 00:23:42,769 I'm a major with the East Baton Rouge 520 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,150 Parish Sheriff's Office. 521 00:23:44,181 --> 00:23:46,181 In the early 2000s, I was an investigator 522 00:23:46,217 --> 00:23:48,767 with the Louisiana Department of Justice. 523 00:23:48,806 --> 00:23:49,906 While working cases there, 524 00:23:49,945 --> 00:23:52,085 we were contacted by the Zachary Police Department 525 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:54,050 and requested some assistance 526 00:23:54,087 --> 00:23:55,987 in an unsolved missing persons, 527 00:23:56,020 --> 00:23:58,020 the missing person being Randi Mebruer, 528 00:23:58,057 --> 00:24:00,607 and then an unsolved homicide investigation 529 00:24:00,646 --> 00:24:02,056 of Connie Warner, 530 00:24:02,095 --> 00:24:04,505 which the Zachary Police Department were investigating. 531 00:24:04,546 --> 00:24:06,616 While looking at Randi Mebruer and Connie Warner, 532 00:24:06,652 --> 00:24:08,102 the main similarities we were looking at 533 00:24:08,136 --> 00:24:11,066 that they were both from the same neighborhood. 534 00:24:11,104 --> 00:24:12,804 Zachary's a very small subdivision. 535 00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:15,070 Both of these female victims 536 00:24:15,108 --> 00:24:16,968 were both from the same subdivision. 537 00:24:18,111 --> 00:24:19,841 Randi Mebruer was a missing person, 538 00:24:19,872 --> 00:24:22,082 so her remains had not been located. 539 00:24:22,115 --> 00:24:25,075 There was an exhaustive amount of searching, going back, 540 00:24:25,118 --> 00:24:29,048 interviewing family members, friends, acquaintances, 541 00:24:29,088 --> 00:24:34,088 trying to figure out, you know, what happened to Randi. 542 00:24:35,025 --> 00:24:36,225 And so that was a very trying also, too, 543 00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:37,787 because you had the family wanting to know 544 00:24:37,821 --> 00:24:40,031 where their loved one's remains were, 545 00:24:40,064 --> 00:24:41,654 what happened to her, and then of course, 546 00:24:41,687 --> 00:24:43,687 you had to speculate, did she just run off? 547 00:24:43,723 --> 00:24:45,173 Well, we didn't believe that. 548 00:24:45,207 --> 00:24:46,827 We knew that she just didn't abandon her family. 549 00:24:46,864 --> 00:24:48,974 And we felt like foul play was involved 550 00:24:49,004 --> 00:24:50,804 and something had happened to Randi. 551 00:24:52,007 --> 00:24:55,007 [suspenseful music] 552 00:24:55,045 --> 00:24:56,765 - My name is Natasha Poe and I worked 553 00:24:56,805 --> 00:24:58,665 for the Louisiana State Police Crime Lab 554 00:24:58,704 --> 00:25:01,124 in Baton Rouge in the early 2000s. 555 00:25:02,673 --> 00:25:05,063 My degree is actually in forensic science 556 00:25:05,089 --> 00:25:07,199 and part of getting a forensics degree, 557 00:25:07,229 --> 00:25:09,089 you have to an internship in a crime lab. 558 00:25:09,128 --> 00:25:10,958 So I did a summer internship 559 00:25:10,992 --> 00:25:12,862 in the Jackson Crime Lab in Mississippi, 560 00:25:12,890 --> 00:25:14,750 and I actually fell in love with it. 561 00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:17,829 And that was actually the summer of the OJ Simpson trial. 562 00:25:17,861 --> 00:25:20,001 And that was one of the big, I guess, 563 00:25:20,035 --> 00:25:23,345 eye-opening cases for forensics that actually made TV, 564 00:25:23,383 --> 00:25:25,733 that people actually got to see in America. 565 00:25:25,765 --> 00:25:28,105 And after that, forensics exploded. 566 00:25:28,147 --> 00:25:31,357 [suspenseful music] 567 00:25:31,391 --> 00:25:33,291 When I started, I was putting what they call 568 00:25:33,324 --> 00:25:34,984 the physical evidence unit, 569 00:25:35,016 --> 00:25:37,606 and that unit encompassed what was then serology, 570 00:25:37,639 --> 00:25:39,989 which is kind of the precursor to DNA. 571 00:25:40,021 --> 00:25:42,301 But we were also able to do crime scenes. 572 00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:45,233 I was qualified to do latent print processing, 573 00:25:45,267 --> 00:25:47,297 ultimately shoe prints and tire tracks. 574 00:25:47,338 --> 00:25:49,648 So kind of had a very diverse background 575 00:25:49,686 --> 00:25:51,716 in understanding evidence, but you know, 576 00:25:51,757 --> 00:25:54,137 of course, we didn't know the power of DNA 577 00:25:54,173 --> 00:25:56,873 back in the early 1990s. 578 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:57,970 Even though there were some labs, 579 00:25:58,004 --> 00:26:00,904 like maybe the FBI lab and some of the other few, 580 00:26:00,938 --> 00:26:03,078 other public laboratories in bigger states 581 00:26:03,113 --> 00:26:05,183 that already had DNA testing online, 582 00:26:05,218 --> 00:26:07,878 Louisiana just wasn't one of those states yet. 583 00:26:07,911 --> 00:26:09,811 [taut music] 584 00:26:09,844 --> 00:26:13,054 - We went back and pulled victims 585 00:26:13,088 --> 00:26:16,608 that died under certain circumstances. 586 00:26:16,644 --> 00:26:19,894 We used the areas in which those ladies died, 587 00:26:21,096 --> 00:26:22,676 and we pooled all the records to see 588 00:26:22,719 --> 00:26:26,169 if we had any DNA on any of these cases. 589 00:26:26,205 --> 00:26:29,205 And Gina Green was one of them. 590 00:26:29,242 --> 00:26:30,832 - My name is Angela Ross. 591 00:26:30,865 --> 00:26:32,965 Back in the early 2000s, I was employed 592 00:26:33,005 --> 00:26:34,965 at the Louisiana State Police Crime Lab 593 00:26:35,007 --> 00:26:36,177 as a DNA analyst. 594 00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:39,151 We assumed that there was a sexual assault. 595 00:26:39,183 --> 00:26:41,253 So you processed her sexual assault kit. 596 00:26:42,462 --> 00:26:45,092 I did not get a DNA profile from a male 597 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,330 on any of the evidence from her body. 598 00:26:48,676 --> 00:26:50,986 I processed her shirt. 599 00:26:51,023 --> 00:26:53,203 And when I was processing her shirt, 600 00:26:53,232 --> 00:26:56,272 there was a small blood stain on where 601 00:26:56,304 --> 00:26:59,244 I would position the elbow of the shirt. 602 00:27:00,308 --> 00:27:03,898 And when I processed that sample, 603 00:27:03,932 --> 00:27:06,692 I was able to identify a male DNA profile. 604 00:27:07,867 --> 00:27:10,077 - Angela Ross and Julia Naylor happened to be 605 00:27:10,111 --> 00:27:11,771 just be sitting at the break room table, 606 00:27:11,802 --> 00:27:13,082 having coffee one morning. 607 00:27:13,114 --> 00:27:14,874 And they were talking about two of the cases 608 00:27:14,909 --> 00:27:16,049 that they were working. 609 00:27:16,082 --> 00:27:17,432 - Another colleague, Jim Churchman, 610 00:27:17,463 --> 00:27:20,403 who had so many years of experience, 611 00:27:20,431 --> 00:27:24,401 he asked us, "Well, did you compare your DNA profiles?" 612 00:27:24,435 --> 00:27:27,915 And I remember looking at him thinking, "You're crazy." 613 00:27:27,956 --> 00:27:30,366 - They occurred at different years. 614 00:27:30,407 --> 00:27:32,787 They were very different situational-wise. 615 00:27:32,823 --> 00:27:35,383 Whereas the MOs of the cases were completely different, 616 00:27:35,412 --> 00:27:36,792 didn't have any reason to think 617 00:27:36,827 --> 00:27:38,307 that the cases would be connected. 618 00:27:38,346 --> 00:27:39,966 - Gina Green was strangled. 619 00:27:40,003 --> 00:27:42,283 Charlotte Murray Pace was stabbed over 80 times. 620 00:27:42,315 --> 00:27:46,075 I really don't see the similarities here, do you? 621 00:27:46,112 --> 00:27:48,252 He goes, "Well, just compare 'em anyway." 622 00:27:48,287 --> 00:27:49,357 I'm like, "All right." 623 00:27:49,391 --> 00:27:50,251 Okay, we'll do that. 624 00:27:50,289 --> 00:27:52,219 So we didn't even rush. 625 00:27:52,256 --> 00:27:54,256 Julie and I just finished our coffee. 626 00:27:54,293 --> 00:27:56,163 We went back to our office and we said, 627 00:27:56,191 --> 00:27:57,991 "All right, pull out your DNA profile. 628 00:27:58,021 --> 00:27:59,261 I'll pull up mine." 629 00:27:59,298 --> 00:28:00,888 And one of us started calling it out 630 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,130 and the other one started looking at it. 631 00:28:03,164 --> 00:28:05,414 And within a very short amount of time, 632 00:28:05,442 --> 00:28:08,272 we realized that they were the same DNA profile. 633 00:28:09,411 --> 00:28:12,861 [mellow strings music] 634 00:28:25,393 --> 00:28:27,083 - My name is Archer Lee. 635 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,779 I'm currently the chief deputy 636 00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:30,850 of the West Louisiana Sheriff's Office. 637 00:28:32,296 --> 00:28:34,256 In 1999, I'm employed 638 00:28:34,298 --> 00:28:36,918 by the St Francisville Police Department. 639 00:28:36,956 --> 00:28:40,436 And I get a complainant who comes in 640 00:28:40,477 --> 00:28:43,097 and she gives a statement about a man 641 00:28:43,135 --> 00:28:45,275 peeping in her window. 642 00:28:45,309 --> 00:28:49,039 Her neighbor, Diane Holloway, told her 643 00:28:49,072 --> 00:28:52,772 that she had seen this same man on numerous occasions, 644 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,980 peeping in the windows and lurking around the apartment. 645 00:28:57,356 --> 00:29:00,256 - My name is Collette Dwyer, and in 1999, 646 00:29:00,290 --> 00:29:04,090 I lived north of Baton Rouge in St. Francisville, Louisiana. 647 00:29:06,468 --> 00:29:08,848 I was coming in from work at 11 o'clock, 648 00:29:08,885 --> 00:29:10,325 and as I was walking one direction, 649 00:29:10,369 --> 00:29:14,859 he was coming the other, and we just passed by, 650 00:29:14,891 --> 00:29:16,201 and he looked at me and asked me 651 00:29:16,237 --> 00:29:17,787 if I wanted to go have a drink. 652 00:29:19,550 --> 00:29:21,310 And introduced himself. 653 00:29:23,037 --> 00:29:24,277 I told him, "No." 654 00:29:24,314 --> 00:29:25,904 And I went on in my apartment 655 00:29:25,936 --> 00:29:28,346 and he continued in his direction. 656 00:29:29,837 --> 00:29:32,807 I'd say it got to where I was seeing him 657 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,360 at least two to three times a week. 658 00:29:35,394 --> 00:29:39,024 I got home one evening and I was unlocking my door, 659 00:29:39,053 --> 00:29:41,023 and my door opened inward. 660 00:29:41,055 --> 00:29:42,985 By the time I even realized what happened, 661 00:29:43,022 --> 00:29:44,472 he was in my kitchen, 662 00:29:44,506 --> 00:29:47,336 getting him a glass of water or looking for a beer. 663 00:29:49,097 --> 00:29:52,857 And I'm just standing there looking at him like, okay. 664 00:29:52,894 --> 00:29:55,174 So then he said, "Well, can we talk?" 665 00:29:56,449 --> 00:29:57,929 And I said, "Okay." 666 00:29:57,968 --> 00:30:00,068 Well, my door opened and I had a rocking chair, 667 00:30:00,108 --> 00:30:03,418 so I sat in it and he sat in the couch. 668 00:30:03,456 --> 00:30:05,316 It never dawned on me to realize 669 00:30:05,355 --> 00:30:07,425 really what was going on, like how he knew 670 00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:09,460 where my dishes were, any of that. 671 00:30:09,497 --> 00:30:12,187 So we sat there and had a conversation 672 00:30:12,224 --> 00:30:14,364 and he wanted to move in with me 673 00:30:14,398 --> 00:30:16,878 and I never met him before. 674 00:30:16,918 --> 00:30:20,508 And then he wanted to get to know me better 675 00:30:20,542 --> 00:30:24,372 and take care of me, was his idea. 676 00:30:26,307 --> 00:30:28,517 At that time, I just got out of a divorce 677 00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:29,590 and I didn't wanna have anything 678 00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:31,280 to do with men at that time. 679 00:30:31,312 --> 00:30:32,872 It was just me and my kids. 680 00:30:34,556 --> 00:30:38,106 So, that's when I decided to go ahead and turn him in, 681 00:30:38,146 --> 00:30:42,386 just for, so the cops would know what was going on. 682 00:30:42,426 --> 00:30:45,046 [suspenseful music] 683 00:30:45,084 --> 00:30:48,544 - At that point, we really 684 00:30:48,570 --> 00:30:50,370 actively got involved in the case. 685 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,330 So we got Collette in, 686 00:30:52,367 --> 00:30:55,057 and did a formal interview with her. 687 00:30:55,094 --> 00:30:57,614 She did give us a name of a person. 688 00:30:57,648 --> 00:31:00,098 We developed a picture lineup, 689 00:31:00,134 --> 00:31:02,214 showed her that six-picture lineup. 690 00:31:02,239 --> 00:31:05,039 She picked this person out of the lineup 691 00:31:05,070 --> 00:31:10,080 and we let Diane Holloway look at a picture lineup as well. 692 00:31:11,421 --> 00:31:13,531 And she picked the same identical person out of the lineup 693 00:31:13,561 --> 00:31:17,361 as being the guy that was seen lurking around 694 00:31:17,392 --> 00:31:19,712 their apartment building on numerous occasions. 695 00:31:19,739 --> 00:31:22,539 [suspenseful music] 696 00:31:22,570 --> 00:31:25,230 In August of '99, I developed 697 00:31:25,262 --> 00:31:28,372 an arrest warrant for peeping Tom, 698 00:31:28,403 --> 00:31:32,483 and we encountered him three or four days later, 699 00:31:32,511 --> 00:31:35,481 somewhere around the 19th of August. 700 00:31:35,514 --> 00:31:36,724 We went to his residence, 701 00:31:36,756 --> 00:31:39,136 told him I had an arrest warrant for him. 702 00:31:39,173 --> 00:31:41,183 Of course, he resisted a little bit. 703 00:31:41,209 --> 00:31:43,489 "No, you don't have a warrant for me." 704 00:31:43,522 --> 00:31:47,462 So eventually, we arrest him and we bring him to jail. 705 00:31:47,491 --> 00:31:51,981 He bonded out of jail as the months pass. 706 00:31:52,013 --> 00:31:55,603 He actually came to court and he realized that, 707 00:31:55,637 --> 00:31:58,257 you know, our case was really solid on him. 708 00:32:00,435 --> 00:32:03,225 So this is the courthouse here in west Louisiana. 709 00:32:03,266 --> 00:32:06,606 It was probably built in the early 1900s. 710 00:32:08,409 --> 00:32:13,409 This is actually the courtroom back in late 1999. 711 00:32:14,587 --> 00:32:16,557 He came in, we had a preliminary exam. 712 00:32:16,589 --> 00:32:19,629 I testified, Collette testified. 713 00:32:19,661 --> 00:32:23,671 He actually elected not to go to trial and he pled guilty. 714 00:32:26,082 --> 00:32:28,392 It felt like it was the start of 715 00:32:28,429 --> 00:32:29,669 his reign of terror 716 00:32:30,603 --> 00:32:32,643 for the next couple of years. 717 00:32:32,674 --> 00:32:35,644 [taut strings music] 718 00:32:50,347 --> 00:32:51,657 - My name is Tony Clayton. 719 00:32:51,693 --> 00:32:54,323 In 2002, I was a special prosecutor 720 00:32:54,351 --> 00:32:56,281 for East Baton Rouge Parish 721 00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:58,109 District Attorney Doug Moro. 722 00:32:58,148 --> 00:33:01,078 Breaux, Louisiana is about 45, 50 miles 723 00:33:01,117 --> 00:33:02,597 outside of Baton Rouge. 724 00:33:02,635 --> 00:33:05,635 Well, we had a lady by the name of Dianne Alexander 725 00:33:05,673 --> 00:33:08,713 who had left Walmart and came back to her home. 726 00:33:08,745 --> 00:33:11,125 And her home was at mobile home. 727 00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:15,612 And someone knocked on the door and she went to the door. 728 00:33:15,648 --> 00:33:20,168 She only cracked the door to peep at this individual. 729 00:33:20,205 --> 00:33:22,755 And that guy asked her, said, "Ma'am, I need some help. 730 00:33:22,793 --> 00:33:26,143 Can you tell me if the Montgomerys live around here?" 731 00:33:26,176 --> 00:33:30,316 And she said, "Sorry, sir, I don't know any Montgomerys." 732 00:33:30,353 --> 00:33:32,363 And then he said, "Do you know if they live 733 00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:34,629 in this trailer park area?" 734 00:33:34,667 --> 00:33:36,077 She said, "No, I don't." 735 00:33:36,117 --> 00:33:38,597 Then he said, "Can you ask your husband?" 736 00:33:38,637 --> 00:33:40,357 And a mistake on her part, 737 00:33:40,397 --> 00:33:43,157 and she said, "My husband's not home." 738 00:33:44,574 --> 00:33:47,134 And then he followed up, "Maybe you can ask your children." 739 00:33:47,163 --> 00:33:49,683 And she said, "Sir, I'm home alone. 740 00:33:49,717 --> 00:33:51,127 There are no Montgomery's here. 741 00:33:51,167 --> 00:33:52,687 And I don't know anyone." 742 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,760 And the moment she made the statement that no one's home... 743 00:33:55,792 --> 00:33:57,862 [suspenseful music] 744 00:33:57,897 --> 00:34:02,177 - He changed in an instant from this affable, 745 00:34:02,212 --> 00:34:04,422 very seemingly nice young man 746 00:34:04,456 --> 00:34:08,666 into this aggressively violent offender 747 00:34:08,701 --> 00:34:12,121 who pushed his way in and started strangling her 748 00:34:12,153 --> 00:34:13,403 and beating her. 749 00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:16,300 - He grabbed her, was on top of her, 750 00:34:16,330 --> 00:34:20,750 was strangling her, beating her, trying to rape her. 751 00:34:20,782 --> 00:34:24,172 - He tried to take advantage of her sexually. 752 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,860 And I apologize for what I'm about to say, 753 00:34:26,892 --> 00:34:29,342 but his body wouldn't perform, 754 00:34:29,377 --> 00:34:30,617 for lack of a better way of putting it. 755 00:34:30,654 --> 00:34:32,554 - Well, he was in the process. 756 00:34:32,587 --> 00:34:34,587 He had taken a phone cord 757 00:34:34,624 --> 00:34:37,214 and had wrapped it around her neck. 758 00:34:37,247 --> 00:34:38,867 And I assume he was in a position 759 00:34:38,904 --> 00:34:40,254 to strangle her to death. 760 00:34:40,285 --> 00:34:41,765 We're assuming that. 761 00:34:41,803 --> 00:34:45,263 - Dianne Alexander would've become another homicide victim 762 00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:47,710 and likely would have been removed from the home, 763 00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:51,230 but her son came home right at that time 764 00:34:51,261 --> 00:34:52,781 when she was being assaulted. 765 00:34:52,814 --> 00:34:55,374 - When he heard that, for some reason, 766 00:34:55,403 --> 00:34:58,203 he took a piece of the phone cord with him, 767 00:34:58,234 --> 00:35:00,344 fled out the door. 768 00:35:00,374 --> 00:35:02,554 When the son saw what happened to his mother, 769 00:35:02,583 --> 00:35:05,173 he jumped in the car and chased him for several miles 770 00:35:05,206 --> 00:35:07,616 and lost him, but he took a good look at the car, 771 00:35:07,657 --> 00:35:10,757 the color of the car, and particularly, dent in the car. 772 00:35:10,798 --> 00:35:13,348 - Dianne Alexander calls police. 773 00:35:13,387 --> 00:35:16,487 And when they arrived, they couldn't believe 774 00:35:16,528 --> 00:35:19,738 how brutally she had been beaten. 775 00:35:19,772 --> 00:35:21,742 [suspenseful music] [camera clicking] 776 00:35:21,774 --> 00:35:23,744 Her eyes were swollen shut. 777 00:35:25,330 --> 00:35:28,710 She was traumatized by what had happened to her. 778 00:35:28,747 --> 00:35:31,507 They brought her to the hospital and at the hospital, 779 00:35:31,543 --> 00:35:35,443 she was able to help police create a sketch of her attacker, 780 00:35:35,478 --> 00:35:38,518 which police would later use to try to find him. 781 00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:41,550 [suspenseful music] 782 00:35:44,556 --> 00:35:46,176 - That report gets the Baton Rouge police, 783 00:35:46,213 --> 00:35:49,663 and we have a description of what this guy looks like. 784 00:35:49,699 --> 00:35:51,739 - They didn't really give it much thought 785 00:35:51,770 --> 00:35:54,670 because her description of her attacker 786 00:35:54,704 --> 00:35:58,474 did not match what they had learned in Baton Rouge, 787 00:35:58,501 --> 00:36:01,781 from now three of the crime scenes where witnesses 788 00:36:01,814 --> 00:36:04,404 had described the white man in a white pickup truck. 789 00:36:07,924 --> 00:36:11,344 [upbeat strings music] 790 00:36:13,412 --> 00:36:17,762 Two months after Murray Pace had been so brutally killed, 791 00:36:17,796 --> 00:36:19,826 a murder would happen in the city 792 00:36:19,867 --> 00:36:22,207 that would change everything. 793 00:36:22,249 --> 00:36:25,249 [suspenseful music] 794 00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:32,710 Pam Kinamore was the owner of an antique store 795 00:36:32,742 --> 00:36:36,402 in Denham Springs, Louisiana called Comforts and Joys, 796 00:36:36,435 --> 00:36:38,775 which pretty much expressed her personality. 797 00:36:38,817 --> 00:36:41,717 [suspenseful music] 798 00:36:41,751 --> 00:36:43,891 - She was apparently doing paperwork, whatever, 799 00:36:43,925 --> 00:36:46,405 'cause somebody rode by at 10:30 800 00:36:46,445 --> 00:36:48,515 and apparently saw her still in the store 801 00:36:48,551 --> 00:36:51,351 about to shut it down. 802 00:36:51,381 --> 00:36:54,521 [suspenseful music] 803 00:36:54,557 --> 00:36:58,557 - She closed the store and she had a bunch of boxes 804 00:36:58,595 --> 00:37:01,425 full of antiques that she wanted to take home to price, 805 00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:03,640 that she had not had time to do that day. 806 00:37:04,774 --> 00:37:07,924 Her husband, Byron, was at the local casino 807 00:37:07,949 --> 00:37:10,679 having an evening with friends, 808 00:37:10,711 --> 00:37:15,721 and Pam drove to her home in Briarwood Estates. 809 00:37:16,889 --> 00:37:19,339 She picked up the boxes out of her car 810 00:37:19,375 --> 00:37:20,955 and she unlocked her door. 811 00:37:20,997 --> 00:37:23,717 She walked in her house carrying the boxes 812 00:37:23,758 --> 00:37:24,898 and kicked the door behind her, 813 00:37:24,932 --> 00:37:29,322 forgetting that she had left her keys in the doorknob. 814 00:37:29,350 --> 00:37:31,010 [suspenseful music] [camera clicking] 815 00:37:31,041 --> 00:37:33,421 She went into her bedroom. 816 00:37:33,458 --> 00:37:35,008 She got ready to take a bath. 817 00:37:35,045 --> 00:37:36,625 She climbed in the bathtub 818 00:37:36,668 --> 00:37:38,808 and as she sat in that bathtub, 819 00:37:38,842 --> 00:37:41,332 relaxing after a long day of work, 820 00:37:41,362 --> 00:37:45,442 a man entered her bathroom and physically took her, 821 00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:47,920 struggling, from her bathtub. 822 00:37:47,955 --> 00:37:50,405 [suspenseful music] 823 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,510 And he carried the struggling woman, 824 00:37:52,546 --> 00:37:55,786 still alive, to his vehicle, 825 00:37:55,825 --> 00:37:57,065 drove through the neighborhood, 826 00:37:57,102 --> 00:37:59,832 and as he drove down Airline Highway, 827 00:37:59,863 --> 00:38:02,943 a woman that was behind his vehicle 828 00:38:02,970 --> 00:38:05,870 noticed that there was a woman in the front seat 829 00:38:05,904 --> 00:38:08,984 that had turned around, and it was something about her eyes, 830 00:38:09,010 --> 00:38:11,320 almost like she begging for help. 831 00:38:11,358 --> 00:38:13,808 The woman in the vehicle behind them 832 00:38:13,843 --> 00:38:16,813 jotted down part of the license plate 833 00:38:16,846 --> 00:38:21,846 right before the man who had taken Pam Kinamore took off. 834 00:38:22,783 --> 00:38:24,853 [suspenseful music] 835 00:38:24,888 --> 00:38:26,818 - We also had a witness that came forward, 836 00:38:26,856 --> 00:38:29,886 who said, "I was driving on the Interstate 837 00:38:29,928 --> 00:38:32,688 and I was following this white truck. 838 00:38:32,724 --> 00:38:34,384 It was being driven by a white male. 839 00:38:34,415 --> 00:38:36,865 And I saw a woman who appeared 840 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:40,460 to be either unconscious or incapacitated. 841 00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:41,940 I don't know, maybe she was asleep, 842 00:38:41,974 --> 00:38:44,464 but she was slumped down in the car." 843 00:38:44,494 --> 00:38:46,744 [suspenseful music] 844 00:38:46,772 --> 00:38:50,022 - The same vehicle was spotted on Interstate 10. 845 00:38:50,051 --> 00:38:52,641 An 18-wheeler was driving alongside of it 846 00:38:52,675 --> 00:38:55,435 and happened to look down and see a naked woman 847 00:38:55,471 --> 00:38:57,511 slumped over in the front seat. 848 00:38:57,542 --> 00:38:59,922 The 18-wheeler driver called police. 849 00:39:01,131 --> 00:39:05,071 - So now you essentially have three different witnesses, 850 00:39:05,101 --> 00:39:10,111 all saying, essentially, white male driving a white truck. 851 00:39:11,694 --> 00:39:14,014 The witness said that the truck got off at the Whiskey exit. 852 00:39:15,939 --> 00:39:18,009 [taut strings music] 853 00:39:18,045 --> 00:39:20,075 - The killer took Pam Kinamore 854 00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:23,116 through a wooded area right next to the bay. 855 00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:25,920 He raped her. 856 00:39:25,949 --> 00:39:27,639 He beat her. 857 00:39:27,675 --> 00:39:29,705 He stabbed her, 858 00:39:29,746 --> 00:39:33,816 and he sliced her throat so viciously 859 00:39:33,854 --> 00:39:35,134 that he almost beheaded her. 860 00:39:36,063 --> 00:39:39,933 [suspenseful music] 861 00:39:39,963 --> 00:39:43,103 - In this area, Pam Kinamore's body was found. 862 00:39:44,071 --> 00:39:44,971 And as you can see, 863 00:39:45,003 --> 00:39:48,593 it is very remote, very desolate place. 864 00:39:48,627 --> 00:39:50,527 It's a killing field. 865 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,430 It's isolated, it's dark, it's dangerous, 866 00:39:55,462 --> 00:40:00,052 and obviously a very good place for criminals to operate. 867 00:40:01,019 --> 00:40:02,989 [taut strings music] 868 00:40:03,021 --> 00:40:05,511 The body was somewhat deteriorated, 869 00:40:05,541 --> 00:40:07,961 but we were able, of course, to identify her 870 00:40:07,991 --> 00:40:10,991 and obtain forensic evidence from her. 871 00:40:11,029 --> 00:40:12,959 And it's a shame that such a beautiful person 872 00:40:12,996 --> 00:40:15,756 wound up in such a horrible place. 873 00:40:16,966 --> 00:40:19,996 [mellow strings music] 874 00:40:21,867 --> 00:40:25,077 - I was driving in from work and on the radio, 875 00:40:25,112 --> 00:40:28,462 they had said Pam Kinamore's murder happened. 876 00:40:28,495 --> 00:40:32,255 And I had a flash, something told me, 877 00:40:32,291 --> 00:40:34,261 I thought I knew who it was. 878 00:40:34,293 --> 00:40:36,993 So I called the hotline and I told them, 879 00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:39,710 "I think I know who y'all might be interested 880 00:40:39,747 --> 00:40:40,847 in just checking out." 881 00:40:42,267 --> 00:40:46,097 Well, they supposed to give you a number, to identify. 882 00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:47,243 They didn't. 883 00:40:47,272 --> 00:40:48,652 So I left my message. 884 00:40:48,687 --> 00:40:51,027 I talked to whoever it was and then I hung up. 885 00:40:52,726 --> 00:40:54,936 Well, I never heard back from anybody. 886 00:40:55,832 --> 00:40:56,942 Nobody ever called. 887 00:40:58,007 --> 00:40:59,767 - Once Pam Kinamore's case happened, 888 00:40:59,802 --> 00:41:02,112 I think that's what brought the attention necessary 889 00:41:02,149 --> 00:41:03,149 to really get the ball rolling. 890 00:41:03,184 --> 00:41:06,084 But it also brought the attention of, you know, 891 00:41:06,118 --> 00:41:08,948 "Oh, my goodness, what is going on here?" 892 00:41:08,983 --> 00:41:11,093 [somber music] 893 00:41:11,123 --> 00:41:15,023 - We knew we had DNA from the Murray Pace case. 894 00:41:15,058 --> 00:41:18,128 So what we just decided at that point, 895 00:41:18,165 --> 00:41:20,885 we would go ahead and volunteer that information 896 00:41:20,926 --> 00:41:21,886 to the Sheriff's Office 897 00:41:21,927 --> 00:41:24,757 because we were working these cases separately 898 00:41:24,792 --> 00:41:26,142 at this point in time. 899 00:41:26,173 --> 00:41:28,873 I remember talking to the sheriff and I said, 900 00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:32,080 "We had another white female that was killed. 901 00:41:32,110 --> 00:41:35,560 The similarities aren't exactly striking together." 902 00:41:35,596 --> 00:41:38,076 And I said, "But it may be worth running DNA 903 00:41:38,116 --> 00:41:41,286 if you have some, and let's see what we have here. 904 00:41:41,326 --> 00:41:46,156 If there's anything, we can make it come together that way 905 00:41:46,193 --> 00:41:49,653 and see if there's any correlation between the two cases." 906 00:41:51,785 --> 00:41:53,645 - There was a significant amount of decomposition 907 00:41:53,683 --> 00:41:55,343 with Pam Kinamore, unfortunately, 908 00:41:55,374 --> 00:41:59,214 but they were still able to get a DNA profile 909 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:01,100 from her cervical swab that also matched 910 00:42:01,139 --> 00:42:02,759 the DNA profile that we had obtained 911 00:42:02,796 --> 00:42:04,176 already in our evidence. 912 00:42:04,211 --> 00:42:06,321 [suspenseful music] 913 00:42:06,351 --> 00:42:08,081 - The murders of Gina Wilson Green 914 00:42:08,111 --> 00:42:08,941 and Charlotte Murray Pace 915 00:42:08,974 --> 00:42:11,014 had already been linked by police. 916 00:42:11,045 --> 00:42:14,145 Within days, Pam Kinamore would be added 917 00:42:14,186 --> 00:42:16,186 to that list, making it three, 918 00:42:16,223 --> 00:42:19,613 the unfortunate number that makes for a serial killer. 919 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,920 [suspenseful music] 920 00:42:21,953 --> 00:42:25,203 [taut energetic music] 66960

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