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- Nobody has forgotten
what it was like
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to live here in that
decade where Baton Rouge
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had the biggest murder
rate in the country.
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- Everybody was scared.
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He was going after all ages.
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- Sheriff detectives say
they found a nude body
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of a 43-year-old woman.
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- She was stabbed ever 80 times.
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- [Man] He grabbed
her, was on top of her,
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was strangling her.
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- [News Anchor]
The body of a woman
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has been found at Whiskey Bay.
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- Where they were
bleeding, chopped up.
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He used like a hand blade.
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- This is a white female.
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- There were
approximately 60 women
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who were murdered
or went missing.
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- [Reporter] The mall is
another place where police
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have advised women to
be especially careful.
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- People were just seeing that
happen and think who's next?
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- It was pretty tense
here for a while.
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- I am pissed off.
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[tense music]
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- And then other bodies
start to turn up.
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- It has happened again.
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- Strangulation.
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- [Man] Both were
sexually mutilated.
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- [Woman] This
killer was attacking
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all over south Louisiana.
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- Every single day
about the serial killer
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or even the potential
of another victim.
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- Every day we don't
get this guy in jail
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could be another
person that dies.
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- To go from such a
friendly, laid-back town
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to this [thunder crackles]
terrifying place to live.
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Everybody in South
Louisiana had been affected
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by this serial killer.
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[thunder crackles]
[ominous music]
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♪ They call me
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♪ The butcher in the Bayou
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♪ They call me
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♪ The butcher in the Bayou
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♪ They call me
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♪ The butcher in the Bayou
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♪ The butcher in the Bayou
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♪ The butcher in the Bayou
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[taut strings music]
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- Baton Rouge was
pretty laid-back,
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especially around LSU's campus.
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Folks would walk to
and from Tigerland
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to go to Reggie's,
to go to Fred's,
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to go to some of the bars there.
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- As far as I can recall,
I'd never remember
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there being any
threat of any crime.
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I mean, I'm sure there was
something going, you know,
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always going around somewhere,
'cause they always do,
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but even the areas
surrounding LSU,
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I remember it being safe.
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It was just a bunch of kids.
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[taut music]
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- My name is Susan Mustafa.
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I'm a true crime author
and serial killer expert.
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I moved to Baton Rouge in 2000
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because my sister told me
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it was a safe place to live.
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[ominous music]
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Charlotte Murray Pace,
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or Murray, as her
family called her,
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had just graduated from LSU
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and was planning
to move to Atlanta
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at the end of the
summer of 2002.
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She had recently moved
to a new townhouse
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with her roommate, Rebecca,
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and on May 31st, she
was at her new home
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when someone
knocked at the door.
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In South Louisiana,
everybody's friendly.
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If someone knocks at your door,
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you don't look
through the peephole.
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You answer your door,
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"Hi, how you doing?"
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So Charlotte Murray Pace,
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on the afternoon of May 31st,
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opened her door to a killer.
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[suspenseful music]
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[siren blaring]
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- My name is Pat Englade.
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I was Chief of Police for
the city of Baton Rouge,
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starting in the year 2000
through to the end of 2004.
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Well, I was actually, I was
leaving an event that day,
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and I got a phone call from
my chief of detectives,
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who told me that we had had
a female that was killed
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just adjacent to the LSU campus.
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While it was unusual,
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it was not something
that was not heard of.
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As we talked about the case,
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they said it was a very
gruesome crime scene.
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It was very bad.
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[suspenseful music]
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- There were definitely
signs of a struggle
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in that apartment,
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that Charlotte Murray
Pace fought back.
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- She was stabbed ever 80
times in her own apartment.
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[suspenseful music]
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- [Woman] It was horrific.
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It was one of the
most brutal things
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that had ever happened in
the city of Baton Rouge.
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- But she fought back.
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I remember the
coroner telling me,
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he was like, you
know, "I could tell
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that this victim really,
really put up a fight."
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- She fought for her life.
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She scratched him.
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She got his skin cells
under her fingernails.
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[suspenseful music]
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- This was a young,
beautiful woman
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who this shouldn't
have happened to.
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And it was in a safe area.
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And police had no idea who
had committed this crime.
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[suspenseful music]
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- Little early in the
game at that point
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to figure out whether we had
some kind of domestic issue.
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At that point, we really
didn't know what was going on.
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We just knew that we
had a young white female
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violently killed
and probably raped.
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[suspenseful music]
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- For those of us that
were faculty at LSU,
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I mean the thought
that a star pupil
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that had performed so well
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and had such a great academic
career as a young woman,
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and thinking of her future,
I mean, it was very,
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I mean, alarming wouldn't
be the word for it,
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it was just depressing.
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[somber music]
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[upbeat music]
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- Baton Rouge has always
been a very friendly town
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and the people here have
always gotten along.
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- We grew up where you
trusted your neighbors
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and your kids were
able to run free.
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[audience cheering]
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- It's a small town atmosphere
with a city demeanor.
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- Baton Rouge is pretty bad
as far as crime rate goes.
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You can't turn on
TV without hearing
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about some homicide
in Baton Rouge.
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- Meanwhile, we have some
important new answers
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about the body of a
woman found murdered
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on Pride Port Hudson
Road three weeks ago.
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- Sheriff detectives say
they found the nude body
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of a 43-year-old woman.
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- We have learned
from our own eyes
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that this is a white female.
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- The body was found just
south of the LSU campus.
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[suspenseful music]
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- Baton Rouge is
surrounded by water.
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There are bayous and spillways.
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So, lots of places that
you could dump a body
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and not be seen.
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[suspenseful music]
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- And around 2002,
we start having
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strange plethora of
murders taking place.
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This was developing a pattern
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and when it leaked
out to the public,
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the public became alarmed.
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And so the public became
completely astonished
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to the point where the
whole metropolis area
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of central Louisiana
went on lockdown.
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- We had almost 30
unsolved murders,
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and that's just women.
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- That year, Baton Rouge
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had the biggest murder
rate in the country.
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[taut strings music]
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For most people,
when August is over,
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you think summer's over,
but in south Louisiana,
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that's just not the case.
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September is hot.
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It is at the height
of hurricane season.
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The Gulf of Mexico
is super warm,
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which gives rise to hurricanes,
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and people in Louisiana
leave their windows,
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their doors open, to try to
combat the sweltering heat.
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[suspenseful music]
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Gina Wilson Green was
vivacious and beautiful.
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She was a nurse,
who lived her life
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to try to help people.
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[suspenseful music]
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She lived on Stanford
Avenue in Baton Rouge,
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which is an area that's
not far from LSU.
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She had a cute little
cottage that she lived in.
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She enjoyed living by herself,
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but in the days before
September 23rd, 2001,
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she told her mother
that she felt like
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someone was watching her.
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[suspenseful music]
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On the night of September 23rd,
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Gina Wilson Green went
to bed like she did,
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preparing to get
up to go to work
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the next morning.
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[suspenseful music]
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At 3:47 a.m., her alarm
went off in her home.
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The security company called.
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She assured them that
everything was okay.
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And she went back to sleep.
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[suspenseful music]
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The next morning, she
didn't show up for work.
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One of her coworkers went
to her home and went inside.
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And as he walked down the hall,
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he saw Gina lying
face down on her bed,
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with her arm hanging off.
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And he called police.
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When police arrived
at Gina's home,
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the back door was unlocked.
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They discovered
articles of clothing
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along the way to her bedroom.
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- Gina Green was
found in her bed.
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She was naked.
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She had been strangled.
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It appeared that she'd
actually been strangled
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in the hallway, and that
they had moved her body,
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at some point, into her bed.
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[suspenseful music]
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- The attack seemed
personal because, you know,
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she had been killed with
the killer's own hands.
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So police didn't quite
know where to look
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to try to find the person
who had violated Gina
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in this manner.
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But no clues really
emerged outside of the fact
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that one of her
neighbors told police
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that they saw a white man
in a white pickup truck
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driving off that night
from Gina's house.
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[taut strings music]
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[bright strings music]
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In Baton Rouge, the
Mississippi River
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runs around the city,
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and levees are built
to protect the city
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whenever the river floods.
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And joggers like to jog
along the top of the levee.
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It makes a great place to
have an uninterrupted run.
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And it's beautiful scenery.
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- I bought the
house here because
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I was a runner at that time,
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and I bought the house here
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so I could run around the lakes.
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[taut strings music]
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That's what a lot
of runners did.
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Particularly, long-distance
runners would run on the levee.
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And so you could go out and
then you could either run
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one way to downtown,
or run the other way
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into a more rural part of
River Road in the levee.
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- Christine Moore was an
LSU student, very athletic,
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who enjoyed jogging
down River Road,
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safe area of Baton Rouge.
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But on this particular day,
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as she was jogging,
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someone approached her.
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[suspenseful music]
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She parked her car at
Farr Horse Activity Center
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and went off on her jog on the
morning of the 23rd of May.
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And two days later, her car
258
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would still be parked
in the parking lot.
259
00:12:09,832 --> 00:12:12,902
Her attacker must have
grabbed her unexpectedly
260
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because Christine was very fit
261
00:12:15,424 --> 00:12:18,774
and she could have warded
off most offenders,
262
00:12:18,807 --> 00:12:22,287
but she was unable to
get away from this one.
263
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And he took her, he beat
her, and he killed her.
264
00:12:26,297 --> 00:12:29,157
And then he left
her body in a bayou.
265
00:12:29,196 --> 00:12:32,056
[suspenseful music]
266
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- Her remains were
found down here
267
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by Ebenezer Baptist Church,
268
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which is a older, an
African American church
269
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that's right on the levee,
right across from the levee.
270
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And that was where they
found her skeletal remains.
271
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[suspenseful music]
272
00:12:51,356 --> 00:12:54,496
- Christine's body would
not be found for a month.
273
00:12:55,844 --> 00:12:58,404
It was pretty brazen
for Christine's attacker
274
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to leave her right in
that particular area,
275
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because there was so much
traffic in that area.
276
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And on Sunday mornings,
277
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all of the churchgoers
gather outside.
278
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They have dinner on the
ground, which is here.
279
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It's a picnic outdoors
after Sunday worship.
280
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And it was actually some
deacons at the church
281
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who discovered a human skull
on the grounds of the church
282
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right next to the bayou.
283
00:13:25,321 --> 00:13:27,361
[pensive music]
284
00:13:27,392 --> 00:13:29,912
- You know, to be
honest, I mean,
285
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she wasn't the kind of
girl that would disappear.
286
00:13:34,606 --> 00:13:37,886
And so everybody really presumed
287
00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,610
that the killer had gotten her.
288
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[somber music]
289
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And so they're telling women,
290
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"Don't run the
levees by yourself.
291
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Don't go early in the morning.
292
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Don't go after dark.
293
00:13:50,450 --> 00:13:53,590
Don't wear earplugs
in your ears."
294
00:13:53,625 --> 00:13:56,485
And it was definitely
a heightened sense
295
00:13:56,525 --> 00:13:58,455
of security at that time.
296
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I mean, everybody was scared.
297
00:14:00,287 --> 00:14:03,217
We all knew we all
were in danger.
298
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He was going after all ages.
299
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And so even though at that time,
300
00:14:06,362 --> 00:14:09,232
I was mid-40s to
late 40s, I mean,
301
00:14:09,262 --> 00:14:11,682
I definitely felt that
I needed to be careful
302
00:14:11,712 --> 00:14:13,132
and that I could be a victim
303
00:14:13,162 --> 00:14:15,232
just like everybody
else could have been.
304
00:14:17,615 --> 00:14:21,065
[mellow strings music]
305
00:14:24,691 --> 00:14:27,871
[suspenseful music]
306
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- Connie Lynn Warner
was sitting in her home,
307
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cross stitching, which
is something that
she enjoyed doing.
308
00:14:37,393 --> 00:14:39,603
Her daughter, Tracy, was
away for the evening.
309
00:14:41,121 --> 00:14:42,991
That night, someone
broke into her home
310
00:14:43,020 --> 00:14:44,920
and changed
everything for Connie.
311
00:14:46,092 --> 00:14:48,302
Her body would be
found a few days later
312
00:14:48,335 --> 00:14:51,165
by the Capitol Lake, near
downtown Baton Rouge.
313
00:14:52,581 --> 00:14:55,001
- The suspect evidently
gained entry into the house.
314
00:14:55,032 --> 00:14:57,522
And that's where
the attack began.
315
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Struggle all the way
into the bedroom area.
316
00:14:59,553 --> 00:15:02,353
She was carried
outside of the house.
317
00:15:02,384 --> 00:15:05,704
We saw blood droplets
by the washer-dryer,
318
00:15:05,732 --> 00:15:09,492
which no one ever comes in
that way or goes out that way.
319
00:15:09,529 --> 00:15:11,459
Her car was used to
transport her body
320
00:15:11,496 --> 00:15:13,016
to the site down in Baton Rouge,
321
00:15:13,050 --> 00:15:14,430
where she was dumped out,
322
00:15:14,465 --> 00:15:16,985
and brought back to the scene.
323
00:15:17,019 --> 00:15:19,129
Connie Warner's body was
in terrible condition.
324
00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:22,509
Hurricane Andrew had
came through Louisiana
about that time,
325
00:15:22,542 --> 00:15:25,682
wiped out any evidence or
anything that could give us
326
00:15:25,717 --> 00:15:28,997
a clue to what may
have happened to her.
327
00:15:29,031 --> 00:15:32,171
You do not have murders
like that in Zachary.
328
00:15:32,207 --> 00:15:34,517
Last one I could think
of might have been
329
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five or six years before that.
330
00:15:36,487 --> 00:15:39,077
And before that,
probably 10 to 20 years.
331
00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:40,660
It just didn't
happen in Zachary.
332
00:15:42,424 --> 00:15:45,674
[mellow strings music]
333
00:15:52,192 --> 00:15:53,682
This town was a
small knit community,
334
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around two or 3,000 people.
335
00:15:55,678 --> 00:15:57,268
On Sundays after
church would go down
336
00:15:57,301 --> 00:15:59,061
to a local watering hole,
337
00:15:59,096 --> 00:16:02,306
swim, and then
get-togethers and that.
338
00:16:02,340 --> 00:16:03,760
[mellow strings music]
339
00:16:03,790 --> 00:16:06,000
I know this area like
the back of my hand.
340
00:16:06,034 --> 00:16:08,384
So, I mean, coming
up on Highway 64
341
00:16:08,415 --> 00:16:09,515
was a two-lane street now.
342
00:16:09,554 --> 00:16:10,734
It has three different names,
343
00:16:10,762 --> 00:16:15,352
Highway 64, Church
Street, and Main Street.
344
00:16:15,388 --> 00:16:17,558
So this was two-lane
at one time.
345
00:16:17,597 --> 00:16:20,147
Across the way over there
was a movie theater.
346
00:16:20,186 --> 00:16:21,496
And like I said, the
fire department's there.
347
00:16:21,532 --> 00:16:24,502
At one time, that
was a grocery store.
348
00:16:24,535 --> 00:16:26,735
So you have a lot of traffic
coming through Zachary.
349
00:16:29,367 --> 00:16:31,647
People work together
here to make sure
350
00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,610
this is a great place to
live and to own a business.
351
00:16:33,647 --> 00:16:36,127
I mean, this is what
Zachary's all about.
352
00:16:36,167 --> 00:16:37,507
We're helping each other.
353
00:16:37,548 --> 00:16:40,208
You know, I've lived
here since '69.
354
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,550
It's always been great for me.
355
00:16:42,587 --> 00:16:45,587
[suspenseful music]
356
00:16:48,628 --> 00:16:52,078
We're coming up on where
Connie Warner lived at.
357
00:16:52,114 --> 00:16:54,324
This is the neighborhood
Oak shadows.
358
00:16:54,358 --> 00:16:56,258
Most of the streets in here,
all the streets in here
359
00:16:56,291 --> 00:17:00,671
are biblical names, Saul,
Eli, Leviticus, Job.
360
00:17:00,709 --> 00:17:03,059
[suspenseful music]
361
00:17:03,091 --> 00:17:04,611
This is where she
lived at right there.
362
00:17:04,644 --> 00:17:06,584
That was her house.
363
00:17:06,611 --> 00:17:09,411
Her car was parked right
underneath the carport.
364
00:17:09,442 --> 00:17:11,272
You know, where the
door is right there,
365
00:17:11,306 --> 00:17:12,616
that's where her
washroom was at.
366
00:17:12,652 --> 00:17:14,722
That's where he
brought her body out
367
00:17:14,757 --> 00:17:16,377
and put her in the
car and took off
368
00:17:16,414 --> 00:17:18,804
and went dumped her
body in Baton Rouge now.
369
00:17:18,830 --> 00:17:20,490
She never let
nobody in the house.
370
00:17:20,522 --> 00:17:23,422
So we knew that, and that
was the scary part about it.
371
00:17:23,456 --> 00:17:26,076
He evidently conned
his way into the house.
372
00:17:26,114 --> 00:17:28,364
I know some of the tricks
that this suspect would use
373
00:17:28,392 --> 00:17:29,882
sometimes to get
in these houses.
374
00:17:29,910 --> 00:17:31,500
"My car has broke down.
375
00:17:31,533 --> 00:17:34,123
I need to borrow your
phone," and stuff like that.
376
00:17:34,156 --> 00:17:36,706
And that goes back to some
of the other cases we worked.
377
00:17:38,229 --> 00:17:40,749
- Nobody really had any clues
378
00:17:40,783 --> 00:17:44,343
as to what had happened
to Connie Lynn Warner.
379
00:17:44,373 --> 00:17:47,203
The police investigated
and tried to find
380
00:17:47,238 --> 00:17:48,578
who the killer was,
381
00:17:48,619 --> 00:17:52,759
but he had left no
evidence behind him.
382
00:17:52,795 --> 00:17:55,065
So basically, her
case went cold.
383
00:17:58,629 --> 00:18:01,629
[suspenseful music]
384
00:18:04,290 --> 00:18:05,710
It was a dark night.
385
00:18:05,739 --> 00:18:09,609
Two teenagers were parked in
the Buhler Plains Cemetery,
386
00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,680
which is located near
Oak Shadows subdivision.
387
00:18:12,712 --> 00:18:14,922
[suspenseful music]
[rain pouring]
388
00:18:14,955 --> 00:18:16,605
It was storming that night.
389
00:18:16,647 --> 00:18:20,307
Louisiana has these
horrible thunderstorms
390
00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:23,590
that can seem close to
hurricanes at times.
391
00:18:23,619 --> 00:18:25,139
[thunder rumbling]
392
00:18:25,173 --> 00:18:27,833
Teenagers were
making out in the car
393
00:18:27,865 --> 00:18:30,895
when the door opens and
a man wielding an ax
394
00:18:30,937 --> 00:18:32,797
began hacking at them.
395
00:18:32,835 --> 00:18:34,315
[suspenseful music]
396
00:18:34,354 --> 00:18:35,914
- One of our officers was
driving down the road,
397
00:18:35,942 --> 00:18:38,702
saw the dome light on, drove up,
398
00:18:38,738 --> 00:18:41,808
and he saw them in the car.
399
00:18:41,844 --> 00:18:44,264
They were bleeding,
chopped up a little bit or,
400
00:18:44,295 --> 00:18:47,885
what I mean that he used like
a hand blade to chop 'em.
401
00:18:49,197 --> 00:18:51,367
It was a pretty
violent case, you know,
402
00:18:51,406 --> 00:18:53,366
had a lot of cuts on
'em and stuff like that,
403
00:18:53,408 --> 00:18:54,718
had cuts in the roof of the car
404
00:18:54,754 --> 00:18:57,584
where he was using the
hack blade to, you know,
405
00:18:57,619 --> 00:18:59,169
hack at 'em a little bit there.
406
00:19:00,622 --> 00:19:02,762
They were right in this
area coming up right here
407
00:19:02,796 --> 00:19:05,626
where this cross is at,
right here on the roadway.
408
00:19:05,661 --> 00:19:07,731
And like I said, we
found fishing rods
409
00:19:07,767 --> 00:19:09,667
and a jacket right
here in this area,
410
00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:11,840
along with the blade that
he was cutting them up with.
411
00:19:11,874 --> 00:19:13,364
So evidently, he was coming back
412
00:19:13,393 --> 00:19:14,573
through the wood line there.
413
00:19:14,601 --> 00:19:18,261
But they were parked right
in this vicinity right here.
414
00:19:18,295 --> 00:19:21,295
[suspenseful music]
415
00:19:25,716 --> 00:19:26,646
- [Susan] Both of
these teenagers
416
00:19:26,682 --> 00:19:29,752
were deeply traumatized
by this experience.
417
00:19:29,789 --> 00:19:31,199
They were just hanging out,
418
00:19:31,239 --> 00:19:32,719
wanting to spend some
time with each other,
419
00:19:32,757 --> 00:19:35,657
and a madman
changed their lives.
420
00:19:37,521 --> 00:19:39,801
- He had cut them, one in
the head and one in the leg,
421
00:19:39,833 --> 00:19:41,973
and was about to
do some more damage
422
00:19:42,008 --> 00:19:43,558
and cut them up some more.
423
00:19:43,596 --> 00:19:45,696
But the police car
pulled into here,
424
00:19:45,736 --> 00:19:48,286
behind the two victims' car.
425
00:19:48,325 --> 00:19:50,835
And the suspect saw
that, reached back in,
426
00:19:50,879 --> 00:19:54,779
and grabbed the keys and ran
off into a south direction.
427
00:19:55,746 --> 00:19:58,986
He saw the opportunity,
saw a female in there.
428
00:19:59,025 --> 00:20:00,505
He figured he had
that hack blade.
429
00:20:00,544 --> 00:20:02,864
He could overpower
'em and, you know,
430
00:20:02,891 --> 00:20:05,481
kill them and get his
sexual gratification.
431
00:20:05,514 --> 00:20:07,724
But for some reason,
the cop saw it,
432
00:20:07,758 --> 00:20:11,658
drove up and that stopped
the whole scene there.
433
00:20:11,693 --> 00:20:13,733
[suspenseful music]
434
00:20:13,764 --> 00:20:15,704
- Because the police
were on the scene
435
00:20:15,731 --> 00:20:16,871
as this was happening,
436
00:20:16,905 --> 00:20:19,835
they took this very seriously,
437
00:20:19,873 --> 00:20:21,883
but no link was made
438
00:20:21,910 --> 00:20:24,400
between the attack
on the teenagers
439
00:20:24,430 --> 00:20:26,570
and Connie Lynn Warner's body
440
00:20:26,604 --> 00:20:28,814
that had been found
in Baton Rouge.
441
00:20:28,848 --> 00:20:31,298
Even though the
cemetery was right next
442
00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:34,753
to the subdivision that
Connie Lynn Warner lived in,
443
00:20:34,785 --> 00:20:35,985
it seemed too different.
444
00:20:36,027 --> 00:20:38,477
There was not a
lot of similarities
445
00:20:38,513 --> 00:20:41,693
in what had happened
in each instance.
446
00:20:41,723 --> 00:20:44,903
So police did not
link these two cases.
447
00:20:44,933 --> 00:20:48,013
[suspenseful music]
448
00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:50,729
Randi Mebruer was a
beautiful young woman
449
00:20:50,766 --> 00:20:52,766
who lived in Oak
Shadows subdivision,
450
00:20:52,803 --> 00:20:55,913
one block over from
where Connie Lynn Warner
451
00:20:55,944 --> 00:20:58,714
had lived six years before.
452
00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:00,850
Randi was a home
healthcare nurse.
453
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,430
She had a three-year-old
son named Michael.
454
00:21:03,469 --> 00:21:06,329
She was recently divorced,
living by herself,
455
00:21:06,368 --> 00:21:07,678
raising her son.
456
00:21:08,853 --> 00:21:10,993
On the night of
April 18th, 1998,
457
00:21:11,028 --> 00:21:12,888
Randi Mebruer disappeared.
458
00:21:14,065 --> 00:21:15,755
The next morning, her neighbor
459
00:21:15,791 --> 00:21:18,861
spotted her son, Michael,
in her front yard.
460
00:21:18,898 --> 00:21:21,348
And he had blood all over him.
461
00:21:21,383 --> 00:21:24,353
[suspenseful music]
462
00:21:26,008 --> 00:21:27,318
- This is Randi Mebruer's house
463
00:21:27,355 --> 00:21:29,115
where she was abducted
and murdered at.
464
00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:31,769
Next door was the
neighbor where her child
465
00:21:31,807 --> 00:21:33,597
had left out the house
and went next door,
466
00:21:33,637 --> 00:21:36,467
stating, "I wanna play
with your children."
467
00:21:36,502 --> 00:21:37,682
You know, the neighbor said,
468
00:21:37,710 --> 00:21:38,990
"Well, let's go
talk to your mama."
469
00:21:39,021 --> 00:21:42,441
And he stated that
mama was not there.
470
00:21:42,473 --> 00:21:43,683
The neighbor came next door
471
00:21:43,716 --> 00:21:45,646
and saw the pool of
blood on the carport,
472
00:21:45,683 --> 00:21:49,003
but also saw the blood
and different things
473
00:21:49,031 --> 00:21:51,381
throughout the house
that were in disarray.
474
00:21:51,413 --> 00:21:53,803
The neighbor backed out and
called the police department.
475
00:21:53,829 --> 00:21:56,069
That's when we arrived
on the scene here.
476
00:21:56,107 --> 00:21:58,657
[suspenseful music]
477
00:21:58,696 --> 00:22:00,556
- When they walked
into Randi's home,
478
00:22:00,595 --> 00:22:03,935
the scene that they
found there was horrific.
479
00:22:03,977 --> 00:22:06,837
There was blood in her bedroom.
480
00:22:06,877 --> 00:22:10,047
There was a bloody hand
print on Michael's door,
481
00:22:10,087 --> 00:22:12,497
on the door of her child.
482
00:22:12,538 --> 00:22:14,608
There was blood in
the living room.
483
00:22:16,058 --> 00:22:17,538
- You know, it's a
pretty violent scene.
484
00:22:17,577 --> 00:22:20,857
We see the contacts of
the victim in the floor
485
00:22:20,891 --> 00:22:23,031
where she was drug from
the bedroom outside.
486
00:22:23,065 --> 00:22:27,475
And, of course, her car was
used to remove her body.
487
00:22:27,518 --> 00:22:29,828
And also, her car
keys were missing.
488
00:22:29,865 --> 00:22:31,895
[suspenseful music]
489
00:22:31,936 --> 00:22:32,936
We searched the area.
490
00:22:32,972 --> 00:22:34,772
We used helicopters.
491
00:22:34,801 --> 00:22:35,731
We used boats.
492
00:22:35,768 --> 00:22:36,838
We used trucks.
493
00:22:36,872 --> 00:22:38,742
We went all out in the
back woods of these areas,
494
00:22:38,771 --> 00:22:40,701
looking and searching for weeks.
495
00:22:40,738 --> 00:22:41,878
Never found her body.
496
00:22:41,912 --> 00:22:44,882
[suspenseful music]
497
00:22:44,915 --> 00:22:48,675
- For police, this was
almost an open and shut case
498
00:22:48,712 --> 00:22:52,062
because Randi had
recently been divorced
499
00:22:52,094 --> 00:22:57,104
and like many people in that
situation, it wasn't amicable.
500
00:22:58,031 --> 00:23:00,481
The police immediately
began looking
501
00:23:00,517 --> 00:23:02,897
into Randi's
ex-husband, Michael.
502
00:23:03,934 --> 00:23:06,904
They had a strange relationship.
503
00:23:06,937 --> 00:23:10,007
They were divorced, but
they still saw each other.
504
00:23:10,043 --> 00:23:12,493
They were occasionally
intimate with each other,
505
00:23:12,529 --> 00:23:14,979
but they would also
fight with each other.
506
00:23:15,014 --> 00:23:17,054
- We brought him in
and talked to him,
507
00:23:17,085 --> 00:23:18,805
put him on a polygraph.
508
00:23:18,845 --> 00:23:19,845
He failed the polygraph.
509
00:23:19,881 --> 00:23:21,681
That was concerning to us.
510
00:23:21,710 --> 00:23:23,090
My thoughts were, you know,
511
00:23:23,125 --> 00:23:24,885
why would you leave
your child like that?
512
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,750
You know, maybe you wanna
escape the murder charge,
513
00:23:26,784 --> 00:23:28,654
but why would you leave
your child like that
514
00:23:28,683 --> 00:23:31,513
in that type of scene,
blood everywhere?
515
00:23:31,548 --> 00:23:33,238
And to him to see all that,
516
00:23:33,273 --> 00:23:35,693
what kind of trauma would
that give that child?
517
00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:40,070
[suspenseful music]
518
00:23:40,108 --> 00:23:41,448
- My name's Todd Morris.
519
00:23:41,489 --> 00:23:42,769
I'm a major with
the East Baton Rouge
520
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,150
Parish Sheriff's Office.
521
00:23:44,181 --> 00:23:46,181
In the early 2000s,
I was an investigator
522
00:23:46,217 --> 00:23:48,767
with the Louisiana
Department of Justice.
523
00:23:48,806 --> 00:23:49,906
While working cases there,
524
00:23:49,945 --> 00:23:52,085
we were contacted by the
Zachary Police Department
525
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:54,050
and requested some assistance
526
00:23:54,087 --> 00:23:55,987
in an unsolved missing persons,
527
00:23:56,020 --> 00:23:58,020
the missing person
being Randi Mebruer,
528
00:23:58,057 --> 00:24:00,607
and then an unsolved
homicide investigation
529
00:24:00,646 --> 00:24:02,056
of Connie Warner,
530
00:24:02,095 --> 00:24:04,505
which the Zachary Police
Department were investigating.
531
00:24:04,546 --> 00:24:06,616
While looking at Randi
Mebruer and Connie Warner,
532
00:24:06,652 --> 00:24:08,102
the main similarities
we were looking at
533
00:24:08,136 --> 00:24:11,066
that they were both from
the same neighborhood.
534
00:24:11,104 --> 00:24:12,804
Zachary's a very
small subdivision.
535
00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:15,070
Both of these female victims
536
00:24:15,108 --> 00:24:16,968
were both from the
same subdivision.
537
00:24:18,111 --> 00:24:19,841
Randi Mebruer was
a missing person,
538
00:24:19,872 --> 00:24:22,082
so her remains had
not been located.
539
00:24:22,115 --> 00:24:25,075
There was an exhaustive amount
of searching, going back,
540
00:24:25,118 --> 00:24:29,048
interviewing family members,
friends, acquaintances,
541
00:24:29,088 --> 00:24:34,088
trying to figure out, you
know, what happened to Randi.
542
00:24:35,025 --> 00:24:36,225
And so that was a
very trying also, too,
543
00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:37,787
because you had the
family wanting to know
544
00:24:37,821 --> 00:24:40,031
where their loved
one's remains were,
545
00:24:40,064 --> 00:24:41,654
what happened to her,
and then of course,
546
00:24:41,687 --> 00:24:43,687
you had to speculate,
did she just run off?
547
00:24:43,723 --> 00:24:45,173
Well, we didn't believe that.
548
00:24:45,207 --> 00:24:46,827
We knew that she just
didn't abandon her family.
549
00:24:46,864 --> 00:24:48,974
And we felt like foul
play was involved
550
00:24:49,004 --> 00:24:50,804
and something had
happened to Randi.
551
00:24:52,007 --> 00:24:55,007
[suspenseful music]
552
00:24:55,045 --> 00:24:56,765
- My name is Natasha
Poe and I worked
553
00:24:56,805 --> 00:24:58,665
for the Louisiana
State Police Crime Lab
554
00:24:58,704 --> 00:25:01,124
in Baton Rouge in
the early 2000s.
555
00:25:02,673 --> 00:25:05,063
My degree is actually
in forensic science
556
00:25:05,089 --> 00:25:07,199
and part of getting
a forensics degree,
557
00:25:07,229 --> 00:25:09,089
you have to an internship
in a crime lab.
558
00:25:09,128 --> 00:25:10,958
So I did a summer internship
559
00:25:10,992 --> 00:25:12,862
in the Jackson Crime
Lab in Mississippi,
560
00:25:12,890 --> 00:25:14,750
and I actually fell
in love with it.
561
00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:17,829
And that was actually the
summer of the OJ Simpson trial.
562
00:25:17,861 --> 00:25:20,001
And that was one of
the big, I guess,
563
00:25:20,035 --> 00:25:23,345
eye-opening cases for forensics
that actually made TV,
564
00:25:23,383 --> 00:25:25,733
that people actually
got to see in America.
565
00:25:25,765 --> 00:25:28,105
And after that,
forensics exploded.
566
00:25:28,147 --> 00:25:31,357
[suspenseful music]
567
00:25:31,391 --> 00:25:33,291
When I started, I was
putting what they call
568
00:25:33,324 --> 00:25:34,984
the physical evidence unit,
569
00:25:35,016 --> 00:25:37,606
and that unit encompassed
what was then serology,
570
00:25:37,639 --> 00:25:39,989
which is kind of the
precursor to DNA.
571
00:25:40,021 --> 00:25:42,301
But we were also able
to do crime scenes.
572
00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:45,233
I was qualified to do
latent print processing,
573
00:25:45,267 --> 00:25:47,297
ultimately shoe prints
and tire tracks.
574
00:25:47,338 --> 00:25:49,648
So kind of had a very
diverse background
575
00:25:49,686 --> 00:25:51,716
in understanding
evidence, but you know,
576
00:25:51,757 --> 00:25:54,137
of course, we didn't
know the power of DNA
577
00:25:54,173 --> 00:25:56,873
back in the early 1990s.
578
00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:57,970
Even though there
were some labs,
579
00:25:58,004 --> 00:26:00,904
like maybe the FBI lab
and some of the other few,
580
00:26:00,938 --> 00:26:03,078
other public laboratories
in bigger states
581
00:26:03,113 --> 00:26:05,183
that already had
DNA testing online,
582
00:26:05,218 --> 00:26:07,878
Louisiana just wasn't
one of those states yet.
583
00:26:07,911 --> 00:26:09,811
[taut music]
584
00:26:09,844 --> 00:26:13,054
- We went back
and pulled victims
585
00:26:13,088 --> 00:26:16,608
that died under
certain circumstances.
586
00:26:16,644 --> 00:26:19,894
We used the areas in
which those ladies died,
587
00:26:21,096 --> 00:26:22,676
and we pooled all
the records to see
588
00:26:22,719 --> 00:26:26,169
if we had any DNA on
any of these cases.
589
00:26:26,205 --> 00:26:29,205
And Gina Green was one of them.
590
00:26:29,242 --> 00:26:30,832
- My name is Angela Ross.
591
00:26:30,865 --> 00:26:32,965
Back in the early
2000s, I was employed
592
00:26:33,005 --> 00:26:34,965
at the Louisiana
State Police Crime Lab
593
00:26:35,007 --> 00:26:36,177
as a DNA analyst.
594
00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:39,151
We assumed that there
was a sexual assault.
595
00:26:39,183 --> 00:26:41,253
So you processed her
sexual assault kit.
596
00:26:42,462 --> 00:26:45,092
I did not get a DNA
profile from a male
597
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,330
on any of the evidence
from her body.
598
00:26:48,676 --> 00:26:50,986
I processed her shirt.
599
00:26:51,023 --> 00:26:53,203
And when I was
processing her shirt,
600
00:26:53,232 --> 00:26:56,272
there was a small
blood stain on where
601
00:26:56,304 --> 00:26:59,244
I would position the
elbow of the shirt.
602
00:27:00,308 --> 00:27:03,898
And when I processed
that sample,
603
00:27:03,932 --> 00:27:06,692
I was able to identify
a male DNA profile.
604
00:27:07,867 --> 00:27:10,077
- Angela Ross and Julia
Naylor happened to be
605
00:27:10,111 --> 00:27:11,771
just be sitting at
the break room table,
606
00:27:11,802 --> 00:27:13,082
having coffee one morning.
607
00:27:13,114 --> 00:27:14,874
And they were talking
about two of the cases
608
00:27:14,909 --> 00:27:16,049
that they were working.
609
00:27:16,082 --> 00:27:17,432
- Another colleague,
Jim Churchman,
610
00:27:17,463 --> 00:27:20,403
who had so many
years of experience,
611
00:27:20,431 --> 00:27:24,401
he asked us, "Well, did you
compare your DNA profiles?"
612
00:27:24,435 --> 00:27:27,915
And I remember looking at
him thinking, "You're crazy."
613
00:27:27,956 --> 00:27:30,366
- They occurred at
different years.
614
00:27:30,407 --> 00:27:32,787
They were very different
situational-wise.
615
00:27:32,823 --> 00:27:35,383
Whereas the MOs of the cases
were completely different,
616
00:27:35,412 --> 00:27:36,792
didn't have any reason to think
617
00:27:36,827 --> 00:27:38,307
that the cases
would be connected.
618
00:27:38,346 --> 00:27:39,966
- Gina Green was strangled.
619
00:27:40,003 --> 00:27:42,283
Charlotte Murray Pace was
stabbed over 80 times.
620
00:27:42,315 --> 00:27:46,075
I really don't see the
similarities here, do you?
621
00:27:46,112 --> 00:27:48,252
He goes, "Well, just
compare 'em anyway."
622
00:27:48,287 --> 00:27:49,357
I'm like, "All right."
623
00:27:49,391 --> 00:27:50,251
Okay, we'll do that.
624
00:27:50,289 --> 00:27:52,219
So we didn't even rush.
625
00:27:52,256 --> 00:27:54,256
Julie and I just
finished our coffee.
626
00:27:54,293 --> 00:27:56,163
We went back to our
office and we said,
627
00:27:56,191 --> 00:27:57,991
"All right, pull out
your DNA profile.
628
00:27:58,021 --> 00:27:59,261
I'll pull up mine."
629
00:27:59,298 --> 00:28:00,888
And one of us started
calling it out
630
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,130
and the other one
started looking at it.
631
00:28:03,164 --> 00:28:05,414
And within a very
short amount of time,
632
00:28:05,442 --> 00:28:08,272
we realized that they
were the same DNA profile.
633
00:28:09,411 --> 00:28:12,861
[mellow strings music]
634
00:28:25,393 --> 00:28:27,083
- My name is Archer Lee.
635
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,779
I'm currently the chief deputy
636
00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:30,850
of the West Louisiana
Sheriff's Office.
637
00:28:32,296 --> 00:28:34,256
In 1999, I'm employed
638
00:28:34,298 --> 00:28:36,918
by the St Francisville
Police Department.
639
00:28:36,956 --> 00:28:40,436
And I get a complainant
who comes in
640
00:28:40,477 --> 00:28:43,097
and she gives a
statement about a man
641
00:28:43,135 --> 00:28:45,275
peeping in her window.
642
00:28:45,309 --> 00:28:49,039
Her neighbor, Diane
Holloway, told her
643
00:28:49,072 --> 00:28:52,772
that she had seen this same
man on numerous occasions,
644
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,980
peeping in the windows and
lurking around the apartment.
645
00:28:57,356 --> 00:29:00,256
- My name is Collette
Dwyer, and in 1999,
646
00:29:00,290 --> 00:29:04,090
I lived north of Baton Rouge
in St. Francisville, Louisiana.
647
00:29:06,468 --> 00:29:08,848
I was coming in from
work at 11 o'clock,
648
00:29:08,885 --> 00:29:10,325
and as I was walking
one direction,
649
00:29:10,369 --> 00:29:14,859
he was coming the other,
and we just passed by,
650
00:29:14,891 --> 00:29:16,201
and he looked at me and asked me
651
00:29:16,237 --> 00:29:17,787
if I wanted to go have a drink.
652
00:29:19,550 --> 00:29:21,310
And introduced himself.
653
00:29:23,037 --> 00:29:24,277
I told him, "No."
654
00:29:24,314 --> 00:29:25,904
And I went on in my apartment
655
00:29:25,936 --> 00:29:28,346
and he continued
in his direction.
656
00:29:29,837 --> 00:29:32,807
I'd say it got to
where I was seeing him
657
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,360
at least two to
three times a week.
658
00:29:35,394 --> 00:29:39,024
I got home one evening and
I was unlocking my door,
659
00:29:39,053 --> 00:29:41,023
and my door opened inward.
660
00:29:41,055 --> 00:29:42,985
By the time I even
realized what happened,
661
00:29:43,022 --> 00:29:44,472
he was in my kitchen,
662
00:29:44,506 --> 00:29:47,336
getting him a glass of
water or looking for a beer.
663
00:29:49,097 --> 00:29:52,857
And I'm just standing there
looking at him like, okay.
664
00:29:52,894 --> 00:29:55,174
So then he said,
"Well, can we talk?"
665
00:29:56,449 --> 00:29:57,929
And I said, "Okay."
666
00:29:57,968 --> 00:30:00,068
Well, my door opened and
I had a rocking chair,
667
00:30:00,108 --> 00:30:03,418
so I sat in it and
he sat in the couch.
668
00:30:03,456 --> 00:30:05,316
It never dawned on me to realize
669
00:30:05,355 --> 00:30:07,425
really what was going
on, like how he knew
670
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:09,460
where my dishes
were, any of that.
671
00:30:09,497 --> 00:30:12,187
So we sat there and
had a conversation
672
00:30:12,224 --> 00:30:14,364
and he wanted to move in with me
673
00:30:14,398 --> 00:30:16,878
and I never met him before.
674
00:30:16,918 --> 00:30:20,508
And then he wanted to
get to know me better
675
00:30:20,542 --> 00:30:24,372
and take care of
me, was his idea.
676
00:30:26,307 --> 00:30:28,517
At that time, I just
got out of a divorce
677
00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:29,590
and I didn't wanna have anything
678
00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:31,280
to do with men at that time.
679
00:30:31,312 --> 00:30:32,872
It was just me and my kids.
680
00:30:34,556 --> 00:30:38,106
So, that's when I decided
to go ahead and turn him in,
681
00:30:38,146 --> 00:30:42,386
just for, so the cops would
know what was going on.
682
00:30:42,426 --> 00:30:45,046
[suspenseful music]
683
00:30:45,084 --> 00:30:48,544
- At that point, we really
684
00:30:48,570 --> 00:30:50,370
actively got
involved in the case.
685
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,330
So we got Collette in,
686
00:30:52,367 --> 00:30:55,057
and did a formal
interview with her.
687
00:30:55,094 --> 00:30:57,614
She did give us a
name of a person.
688
00:30:57,648 --> 00:31:00,098
We developed a picture lineup,
689
00:31:00,134 --> 00:31:02,214
showed her that
six-picture lineup.
690
00:31:02,239 --> 00:31:05,039
She picked this person
out of the lineup
691
00:31:05,070 --> 00:31:10,080
and we let Diane Holloway look
at a picture lineup as well.
692
00:31:11,421 --> 00:31:13,531
And she picked the
same identical person
out of the lineup
693
00:31:13,561 --> 00:31:17,361
as being the guy that
was seen lurking around
694
00:31:17,392 --> 00:31:19,712
their apartment building
on numerous occasions.
695
00:31:19,739 --> 00:31:22,539
[suspenseful music]
696
00:31:22,570 --> 00:31:25,230
In August of '99, I developed
697
00:31:25,262 --> 00:31:28,372
an arrest warrant
for peeping Tom,
698
00:31:28,403 --> 00:31:32,483
and we encountered him
three or four days later,
699
00:31:32,511 --> 00:31:35,481
somewhere around
the 19th of August.
700
00:31:35,514 --> 00:31:36,724
We went to his residence,
701
00:31:36,756 --> 00:31:39,136
told him I had an
arrest warrant for him.
702
00:31:39,173 --> 00:31:41,183
Of course, he
resisted a little bit.
703
00:31:41,209 --> 00:31:43,489
"No, you don't have
a warrant for me."
704
00:31:43,522 --> 00:31:47,462
So eventually, we arrest him
and we bring him to jail.
705
00:31:47,491 --> 00:31:51,981
He bonded out of jail
as the months pass.
706
00:31:52,013 --> 00:31:55,603
He actually came to court
and he realized that,
707
00:31:55,637 --> 00:31:58,257
you know, our case was
really solid on him.
708
00:32:00,435 --> 00:32:03,225
So this is the courthouse
here in west Louisiana.
709
00:32:03,266 --> 00:32:06,606
It was probably built
in the early 1900s.
710
00:32:08,409 --> 00:32:13,409
This is actually the
courtroom back in late 1999.
711
00:32:14,587 --> 00:32:16,557
He came in, we had
a preliminary exam.
712
00:32:16,589 --> 00:32:19,629
I testified, Collette testified.
713
00:32:19,661 --> 00:32:23,671
He actually elected not to go
to trial and he pled guilty.
714
00:32:26,082 --> 00:32:28,392
It felt like it was the start of
715
00:32:28,429 --> 00:32:29,669
his reign of terror
716
00:32:30,603 --> 00:32:32,643
for the next couple of years.
717
00:32:32,674 --> 00:32:35,644
[taut strings music]
718
00:32:50,347 --> 00:32:51,657
- My name is Tony Clayton.
719
00:32:51,693 --> 00:32:54,323
In 2002, I was a
special prosecutor
720
00:32:54,351 --> 00:32:56,281
for East Baton Rouge Parish
721
00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:58,109
District Attorney Doug Moro.
722
00:32:58,148 --> 00:33:01,078
Breaux, Louisiana is
about 45, 50 miles
723
00:33:01,117 --> 00:33:02,597
outside of Baton Rouge.
724
00:33:02,635 --> 00:33:05,635
Well, we had a lady by the
name of Dianne Alexander
725
00:33:05,673 --> 00:33:08,713
who had left Walmart and
came back to her home.
726
00:33:08,745 --> 00:33:11,125
And her home was at mobile home.
727
00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:15,612
And someone knocked on the
door and she went to the door.
728
00:33:15,648 --> 00:33:20,168
She only cracked the door
to peep at this individual.
729
00:33:20,205 --> 00:33:22,755
And that guy asked her, said,
"Ma'am, I need some help.
730
00:33:22,793 --> 00:33:26,143
Can you tell me if the
Montgomerys live around here?"
731
00:33:26,176 --> 00:33:30,316
And she said, "Sorry, sir, I
don't know any Montgomerys."
732
00:33:30,353 --> 00:33:32,363
And then he said, "Do
you know if they live
733
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:34,629
in this trailer park area?"
734
00:33:34,667 --> 00:33:36,077
She said, "No, I don't."
735
00:33:36,117 --> 00:33:38,597
Then he said, "Can
you ask your husband?"
736
00:33:38,637 --> 00:33:40,357
And a mistake on her part,
737
00:33:40,397 --> 00:33:43,157
and she said, "My
husband's not home."
738
00:33:44,574 --> 00:33:47,134
And then he followed up, "Maybe
you can ask your children."
739
00:33:47,163 --> 00:33:49,683
And she said, "Sir,
I'm home alone.
740
00:33:49,717 --> 00:33:51,127
There are no Montgomery's here.
741
00:33:51,167 --> 00:33:52,687
And I don't know anyone."
742
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,760
And the moment she made the
statement that no one's home...
743
00:33:55,792 --> 00:33:57,862
[suspenseful music]
744
00:33:57,897 --> 00:34:02,177
- He changed in an
instant from this affable,
745
00:34:02,212 --> 00:34:04,422
very seemingly nice young man
746
00:34:04,456 --> 00:34:08,666
into this aggressively
violent offender
747
00:34:08,701 --> 00:34:12,121
who pushed his way in and
started strangling her
748
00:34:12,153 --> 00:34:13,403
and beating her.
749
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:16,300
- He grabbed her,
was on top of her,
750
00:34:16,330 --> 00:34:20,750
was strangling her, beating
her, trying to rape her.
751
00:34:20,782 --> 00:34:24,172
- He tried to take
advantage of her sexually.
752
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,860
And I apologize for
what I'm about to say,
753
00:34:26,892 --> 00:34:29,342
but his body wouldn't perform,
754
00:34:29,377 --> 00:34:30,617
for lack of a better
way of putting it.
755
00:34:30,654 --> 00:34:32,554
- Well, he was in the process.
756
00:34:32,587 --> 00:34:34,587
He had taken a phone cord
757
00:34:34,624 --> 00:34:37,214
and had wrapped it
around her neck.
758
00:34:37,247 --> 00:34:38,867
And I assume he
was in a position
759
00:34:38,904 --> 00:34:40,254
to strangle her to death.
760
00:34:40,285 --> 00:34:41,765
We're assuming that.
761
00:34:41,803 --> 00:34:45,263
- Dianne Alexander would've
become another homicide victim
762
00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:47,710
and likely would have been
removed from the home,
763
00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:51,230
but her son came home
right at that time
764
00:34:51,261 --> 00:34:52,781
when she was being assaulted.
765
00:34:52,814 --> 00:34:55,374
- When he heard that,
for some reason,
766
00:34:55,403 --> 00:34:58,203
he took a piece of the
phone cord with him,
767
00:34:58,234 --> 00:35:00,344
fled out the door.
768
00:35:00,374 --> 00:35:02,554
When the son saw what
happened to his mother,
769
00:35:02,583 --> 00:35:05,173
he jumped in the car and
chased him for several miles
770
00:35:05,206 --> 00:35:07,616
and lost him, but he took
a good look at the car,
771
00:35:07,657 --> 00:35:10,757
the color of the car, and
particularly, dent in the car.
772
00:35:10,798 --> 00:35:13,348
- Dianne Alexander calls police.
773
00:35:13,387 --> 00:35:16,487
And when they arrived,
they couldn't believe
774
00:35:16,528 --> 00:35:19,738
how brutally she
had been beaten.
775
00:35:19,772 --> 00:35:21,742
[suspenseful music]
[camera clicking]
776
00:35:21,774 --> 00:35:23,744
Her eyes were swollen shut.
777
00:35:25,330 --> 00:35:28,710
She was traumatized by
what had happened to her.
778
00:35:28,747 --> 00:35:31,507
They brought her to the
hospital and at the hospital,
779
00:35:31,543 --> 00:35:35,443
she was able to help police
create a sketch of her attacker,
780
00:35:35,478 --> 00:35:38,518
which police would later
use to try to find him.
781
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:41,550
[suspenseful music]
782
00:35:44,556 --> 00:35:46,176
- That report gets the
Baton Rouge police,
783
00:35:46,213 --> 00:35:49,663
and we have a description
of what this guy looks like.
784
00:35:49,699 --> 00:35:51,739
- They didn't really
give it much thought
785
00:35:51,770 --> 00:35:54,670
because her description
of her attacker
786
00:35:54,704 --> 00:35:58,474
did not match what they
had learned in Baton Rouge,
787
00:35:58,501 --> 00:36:01,781
from now three of the crime
scenes where witnesses
788
00:36:01,814 --> 00:36:04,404
had described the white man
in a white pickup truck.
789
00:36:07,924 --> 00:36:11,344
[upbeat strings music]
790
00:36:13,412 --> 00:36:17,762
Two months after Murray Pace
had been so brutally killed,
791
00:36:17,796 --> 00:36:19,826
a murder would
happen in the city
792
00:36:19,867 --> 00:36:22,207
that would change everything.
793
00:36:22,249 --> 00:36:25,249
[suspenseful music]
794
00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:32,710
Pam Kinamore was the
owner of an antique store
795
00:36:32,742 --> 00:36:36,402
in Denham Springs, Louisiana
called Comforts and Joys,
796
00:36:36,435 --> 00:36:38,775
which pretty much
expressed her personality.
797
00:36:38,817 --> 00:36:41,717
[suspenseful music]
798
00:36:41,751 --> 00:36:43,891
- She was apparently
doing paperwork, whatever,
799
00:36:43,925 --> 00:36:46,405
'cause somebody rode by at 10:30
800
00:36:46,445 --> 00:36:48,515
and apparently saw
her still in the store
801
00:36:48,551 --> 00:36:51,351
about to shut it down.
802
00:36:51,381 --> 00:36:54,521
[suspenseful music]
803
00:36:54,557 --> 00:36:58,557
- She closed the store and
she had a bunch of boxes
804
00:36:58,595 --> 00:37:01,425
full of antiques that she
wanted to take home to price,
805
00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:03,640
that she had not had
time to do that day.
806
00:37:04,774 --> 00:37:07,924
Her husband, Byron,
was at the local casino
807
00:37:07,949 --> 00:37:10,679
having an evening with friends,
808
00:37:10,711 --> 00:37:15,721
and Pam drove to her home
in Briarwood Estates.
809
00:37:16,889 --> 00:37:19,339
She picked up the
boxes out of her car
810
00:37:19,375 --> 00:37:20,955
and she unlocked her door.
811
00:37:20,997 --> 00:37:23,717
She walked in her house
carrying the boxes
812
00:37:23,758 --> 00:37:24,898
and kicked the door behind her,
813
00:37:24,932 --> 00:37:29,322
forgetting that she had left
her keys in the doorknob.
814
00:37:29,350 --> 00:37:31,010
[suspenseful music]
[camera clicking]
815
00:37:31,041 --> 00:37:33,421
She went into her bedroom.
816
00:37:33,458 --> 00:37:35,008
She got ready to take a bath.
817
00:37:35,045 --> 00:37:36,625
She climbed in the bathtub
818
00:37:36,668 --> 00:37:38,808
and as she sat in that bathtub,
819
00:37:38,842 --> 00:37:41,332
relaxing after a
long day of work,
820
00:37:41,362 --> 00:37:45,442
a man entered her bathroom
and physically took her,
821
00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:47,920
struggling, from her bathtub.
822
00:37:47,955 --> 00:37:50,405
[suspenseful music]
823
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,510
And he carried the
struggling woman,
824
00:37:52,546 --> 00:37:55,786
still alive, to his vehicle,
825
00:37:55,825 --> 00:37:57,065
drove through the neighborhood,
826
00:37:57,102 --> 00:37:59,832
and as he drove down
Airline Highway,
827
00:37:59,863 --> 00:38:02,943
a woman that was
behind his vehicle
828
00:38:02,970 --> 00:38:05,870
noticed that there was a
woman in the front seat
829
00:38:05,904 --> 00:38:08,984
that had turned around, and it
was something about her eyes,
830
00:38:09,010 --> 00:38:11,320
almost like she
begging for help.
831
00:38:11,358 --> 00:38:13,808
The woman in the
vehicle behind them
832
00:38:13,843 --> 00:38:16,813
jotted down part of
the license plate
833
00:38:16,846 --> 00:38:21,846
right before the man who had
taken Pam Kinamore took off.
834
00:38:22,783 --> 00:38:24,853
[suspenseful music]
835
00:38:24,888 --> 00:38:26,818
- We also had a witness
that came forward,
836
00:38:26,856 --> 00:38:29,886
who said, "I was driving
on the Interstate
837
00:38:29,928 --> 00:38:32,688
and I was following
this white truck.
838
00:38:32,724 --> 00:38:34,384
It was being driven
by a white male.
839
00:38:34,415 --> 00:38:36,865
And I saw a woman who appeared
840
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:40,460
to be either unconscious
or incapacitated.
841
00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:41,940
I don't know, maybe
she was asleep,
842
00:38:41,974 --> 00:38:44,464
but she was slumped
down in the car."
843
00:38:44,494 --> 00:38:46,744
[suspenseful music]
844
00:38:46,772 --> 00:38:50,022
- The same vehicle was
spotted on Interstate 10.
845
00:38:50,051 --> 00:38:52,641
An 18-wheeler was
driving alongside of it
846
00:38:52,675 --> 00:38:55,435
and happened to look down
and see a naked woman
847
00:38:55,471 --> 00:38:57,511
slumped over in the front seat.
848
00:38:57,542 --> 00:38:59,922
The 18-wheeler
driver called police.
849
00:39:01,131 --> 00:39:05,071
- So now you essentially have
three different witnesses,
850
00:39:05,101 --> 00:39:10,111
all saying, essentially, white
male driving a white truck.
851
00:39:11,694 --> 00:39:14,014
The witness said that the truck
got off at the Whiskey exit.
852
00:39:15,939 --> 00:39:18,009
[taut strings music]
853
00:39:18,045 --> 00:39:20,075
- The killer took Pam Kinamore
854
00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:23,116
through a wooded area
right next to the bay.
855
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:25,920
He raped her.
856
00:39:25,949 --> 00:39:27,639
He beat her.
857
00:39:27,675 --> 00:39:29,705
He stabbed her,
858
00:39:29,746 --> 00:39:33,816
and he sliced her
throat so viciously
859
00:39:33,854 --> 00:39:35,134
that he almost beheaded her.
860
00:39:36,063 --> 00:39:39,933
[suspenseful music]
861
00:39:39,963 --> 00:39:43,103
- In this area, Pam
Kinamore's body was found.
862
00:39:44,071 --> 00:39:44,971
And as you can see,
863
00:39:45,003 --> 00:39:48,593
it is very remote,
very desolate place.
864
00:39:48,627 --> 00:39:50,527
It's a killing field.
865
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,430
It's isolated, it's
dark, it's dangerous,
866
00:39:55,462 --> 00:40:00,052
and obviously a very good
place for criminals to operate.
867
00:40:01,019 --> 00:40:02,989
[taut strings music]
868
00:40:03,021 --> 00:40:05,511
The body was somewhat
deteriorated,
869
00:40:05,541 --> 00:40:07,961
but we were able, of
course, to identify her
870
00:40:07,991 --> 00:40:10,991
and obtain forensic
evidence from her.
871
00:40:11,029 --> 00:40:12,959
And it's a shame that
such a beautiful person
872
00:40:12,996 --> 00:40:15,756
wound up in such
a horrible place.
873
00:40:16,966 --> 00:40:19,996
[mellow strings music]
874
00:40:21,867 --> 00:40:25,077
- I was driving in from
work and on the radio,
875
00:40:25,112 --> 00:40:28,462
they had said Pam
Kinamore's murder happened.
876
00:40:28,495 --> 00:40:32,255
And I had a flash,
something told me,
877
00:40:32,291 --> 00:40:34,261
I thought I knew who it was.
878
00:40:34,293 --> 00:40:36,993
So I called the hotline
and I told them,
879
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:39,710
"I think I know who
y'all might be interested
880
00:40:39,747 --> 00:40:40,847
in just checking out."
881
00:40:42,267 --> 00:40:46,097
Well, they supposed to give
you a number, to identify.
882
00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:47,243
They didn't.
883
00:40:47,272 --> 00:40:48,652
So I left my message.
884
00:40:48,687 --> 00:40:51,027
I talked to whoever it
was and then I hung up.
885
00:40:52,726 --> 00:40:54,936
Well, I never heard
back from anybody.
886
00:40:55,832 --> 00:40:56,942
Nobody ever called.
887
00:40:58,007 --> 00:40:59,767
- Once Pam Kinamore's
case happened,
888
00:40:59,802 --> 00:41:02,112
I think that's what brought
the attention necessary
889
00:41:02,149 --> 00:41:03,149
to really get the ball rolling.
890
00:41:03,184 --> 00:41:06,084
But it also brought the
attention of, you know,
891
00:41:06,118 --> 00:41:08,948
"Oh, my goodness, what
is going on here?"
892
00:41:08,983 --> 00:41:11,093
[somber music]
893
00:41:11,123 --> 00:41:15,023
- We knew we had DNA from
the Murray Pace case.
894
00:41:15,058 --> 00:41:18,128
So what we just
decided at that point,
895
00:41:18,165 --> 00:41:20,885
we would go ahead and
volunteer that information
896
00:41:20,926 --> 00:41:21,886
to the Sheriff's Office
897
00:41:21,927 --> 00:41:24,757
because we were working
these cases separately
898
00:41:24,792 --> 00:41:26,142
at this point in time.
899
00:41:26,173 --> 00:41:28,873
I remember talking to
the sheriff and I said,
900
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:32,080
"We had another white
female that was killed.
901
00:41:32,110 --> 00:41:35,560
The similarities aren't
exactly striking together."
902
00:41:35,596 --> 00:41:38,076
And I said, "But it may
be worth running DNA
903
00:41:38,116 --> 00:41:41,286
if you have some, and let's
see what we have here.
904
00:41:41,326 --> 00:41:46,156
If there's anything, we can
make it come together that way
905
00:41:46,193 --> 00:41:49,653
and see if there's any
correlation between
the two cases."
906
00:41:51,785 --> 00:41:53,645
- There was a significant
amount of decomposition
907
00:41:53,683 --> 00:41:55,343
with Pam Kinamore,
unfortunately,
908
00:41:55,374 --> 00:41:59,214
but they were still able
to get a DNA profile
909
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:01,100
from her cervical
swab that also matched
910
00:42:01,139 --> 00:42:02,759
the DNA profile
that we had obtained
911
00:42:02,796 --> 00:42:04,176
already in our evidence.
912
00:42:04,211 --> 00:42:06,321
[suspenseful music]
913
00:42:06,351 --> 00:42:08,081
- The murders of
Gina Wilson Green
914
00:42:08,111 --> 00:42:08,941
and Charlotte Murray Pace
915
00:42:08,974 --> 00:42:11,014
had already been
linked by police.
916
00:42:11,045 --> 00:42:14,145
Within days, Pam
Kinamore would be added
917
00:42:14,186 --> 00:42:16,186
to that list, making it three,
918
00:42:16,223 --> 00:42:19,613
the unfortunate number that
makes for a serial killer.
919
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,920
[suspenseful music]
920
00:42:21,953 --> 00:42:25,203
[taut energetic music]
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