All language subtitles for When.Love.is.Gay.Laurent.Gagliardi.1994.1080p.NFB.Web-DL

[RAYMOND FAFARD]:
WE WENT TO A MOVIE AND...

AND WE WERE PLAYING KNEESIES...

AND I WAS FEELING SO EXCITED!

I WAS TREMBLING,

I THOUGHT MY HEART
WAS GOING TO BURST.

AND THEN, HE INVITED ME
OVER TO HIS PLACE...

AND...

THE EXPERIENCE WAS OVERWHELMING.

[RENE OUELLETTE]: MY FIRST
RELATIONSHIPS - LIKE MANY
GUYS IN MY SITUATION -

THEY WERE JUST QUICKIES
IN A PARK, A PUBLIC PLACE.

I CAN HARDLY REMEMBER THEM.

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE GUYS.

THEY WERE PURELY
PHYSICAL RELATIONSHIPS.

[ALAIN THIBAULT]:
FIRST THERE'S THE COCK,

AND THE GUY SUCKING COCK,
AND THE GUY BEING FUCKED,

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK
OF WHEN YOU SEE 2 GAYS TOGETHER.

YOU CAN'T IMAGINE TWO GAYS
CARESSING EACH OTHER,

OR LOVING EACH OTHER,
OR BEING TENDER...

IT'S ALMOST AS IF WE'RE
NOT ENTITLED TO THAT IMAGE.

-WHEN I WAS IN THE NOVITIATE,

THERE WAS A CEREMONY DURING
WHICH WE HAD TO STAND UP

AND, IN THE NAME OF
CHRISTIAN CHARITY, LIST
THE FAULTS OF OUR CLASSMATES.

FOR EXAMPLE, "HE FALLS
ASLEEP DURING THE SERMON"

OR, "HE PICKS FIGHTS."

IT WAS ONE OF THE
WORST DAYS OF MY LIFE...

ALL OR ALMOST ALL THE STUDENTS

- AND THERE WERE ABOUT
50 OF US - GOT UP AND SAID,

"FATHER, I ACCUSE
MY FELLOW NOVICE OF
HAVING A SPECIAL FRIENDSHIP."

THAT EXPRESSION CAME UP
AT LEAST 40 TIMES.

I WAS UTTERLY DESTROYED.

-FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER,

I KNEW I WAS GAY. IT BECAME
A PROBLEM DURING MY ADOLESCENCE.

MY MOTHER WORKED IN A
HAIRDRESSING SALON, WITH
PEOPLE WHO WERE HOMOSEXUAL,

AND MY FATHER WAS ALWAYS
MAKING SNIDE REMARKS ABOUT THEM.

BUT I KNEW THAT I WAS
LIKE THOSE PEOPLE, SO...

IT WAS VERY HARD ON ME.

BUT TO PLEASE MY FAMILY AND
THE PEOPLE AROUND ME, I DECIDED

- THOUGH IT WAS
HARDLY A CHOICE -

THAT I'D LEAD A HETEROSEXUAL
LIFE LIKE A NORMAL PERSON,

TO CURE MYSELF OF MY DIFFERENCE.

[YVES MARTIN]: YOU SAID
A COUPLE OF TIMES,

"DAMN IT, WHY AM I A
FAGGOT?! WHY AM I GAY?"

AND I ANSWERED, "WELL,
THAT'S THE WAY YOU ARE.

"YOU WERE BORN THAT WAY,
THAT'S YOUR CONDITION.

YOU DIDN'T CHOOSE IT,
THAT'S THE WAY YOU ARE."

THAT REALLY GOT TO ME!

PEOPLE WHO KNOW MARTIN
KNOW HE'S FULL OF LIFE.

HE'S VERY CHARMING,

A GUY WHO REALLY KNOWS
HOW TO HAVE A GOOD TIME,

AND I HATED TO HEAR HIM
TALK ABOUT HIMSELF LIKE THAT.

[RAYMOND FAFARD]: I HAD A MAJOR
PROBLEM OF A RELIGIOUS NATURE.

THINGS WERE NOT RIGHT BETWEEN
MY CONFESSOR AND MYSELF.

I TOLD HIM I WAS WITH SOMEONE

AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO
RECONCILE MY SEXUAL RELATIONS

WITH ALWAYS COMING
TO SEEK ABSOLUTION.

AND HE TOLD ME POINTBLANK,

"YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. IF YOU
WANT ME TO GIVE YOU ABSOLUTION,

YOU MUST LEAVE YOUR FRIEND.
THINK IT OVER."

I THOUGHT IT OVER
FOR ONE WHOLE NIGHT

AND THEN I TOLD HIM,
"I'VE MADE UP MY MIND.

"MY PERSONAL TRUTH IS THE LOVE

I HAVE FOR MY FRIEND."

THAT'S WHAT MADE IT
VERY DIFFICULT TO LOVE.

BUT I PREFERRED TO ACCEPT
MYSELF FOR WHO I WAS,

AND I GAVE UP MY RELIGION.

[ALAIN THIBAULT]: THE
DESIRE WAS ALWAYS THERE,

BUT I NEVER GAVE IN TO IT,
BECAUSE OF RELIGION.

I BELIEVED IN MARRIAGE, AND
THAT MARRIAGE IS INDISSOLUBLE.

AND WHEN YOU BELIEVE IN THAT,

- AND YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T
BELIEVE IN ANYTHING ELSE -

WHEN YOU HAVE IDEAS THAT ARE
HOMOSEXUAL AND YOU'VE GOT MEN
ON THE BRAIN, WHAT DO YOU DO?

YOU SUPPRESS THOSE THOUGHTS,
BECAUSE THEY'RE FORBIDDEN.

AT LEAST, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

-ONE DAY MY FATHER
CAME HOME AND HE SAID,

"WHATEVER YOUR PROBLEM IS,
WE'RE READY TO HELP YOU."

ESPECIALLY AS
I WAS THEIR ONLY SON.

BUT ONCE HE KNEW
WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS,

HE COULDN'T HELP ME, BECAUSE OF
THE PREJUDICE AND SHAME HE FELT.

[L. GAGLIARDI]:
WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM?

-THE FACT THAT I HAD COME OUT.

IT MIGHT HAVE WORKED IF
I HAD BEEN PREPARED TO PRETEND

THAT MY LOVER WAS MY ROOMMATE

AND THAT WE WERE JUST
SHARING LIVING EXPENSES...

OR IF I CAME HOME FOR
CHRISTMAS BY MYSELF.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL RIGHT.

[MARTIN BOULIANE]:
I LOVED MY PARENTS.

I THINK THEY KNEW ABOUT MY
SEXUAL ORIENTATION, BUT WE...

WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT.

ONCE MY MOTHER FOUND
GAY MAGAZINES IN MY ROOM.

AFTER THAT SHE ALWAYS LEFT MY
CLEAN CLOTHES OUTSIDE THE DOOR.

SHE NEVER CAME
INTO MY ROOM AGAIN.

I WANTED TO SPARE THEM.
MAYBE IT WAS ONLY A QUESTION...

OF NOT CONFRONTING THEM...
SO I NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT.

WHEN THEY DIED, I FELT RELIEVED.

I WOULDN'T HAVE TO TELL THEM.

-MY FATHER PUT IT
PRETTY PLAINLY.

HE SAID I COULD COME TO
THE HOUSE WHENEVER I LIKED,
BUT MY LOVER COULDN'T.

SO I TOLD HIM THAT
IF HE COULDN'T COME,
I WOULDN'T EITHER.

IN ANY CASE, THE ONLY THING
HE HAD AGAINST DENIS WAS
BEING WHAT I WAS MYSELF.

SO WHATEVER HE HAD AGAINST
HIM, HE HAD AGAINST ME TOO.

I WASN'T INTERESTED

IN MAINTAINING A RELATIONSHIP
WITH MY FATHER.

I NEEDED ALL MY ENERGY
TO ACCEPT MYSELF AS I WAS.

I DIDN'T HAVE ENERGY LEFT OVER
TO MAKE OTHERS ACCEPT ME.

I HAD TO FOCUS ON MYSELF,
THEN ON MYSELF AND MY LOVER,

AND THEN ON THE PEOPLE WHO
ACCEPTED AND LOVED ME AS I WAS.

THOSE WHO COULDN'T WERE
DROPPED PRETTY QUICKLY.

[BENOIT MIGNEAULT]: WHEN
YOU FINALLY DECIDE TO LIVE

YOUR HOMOSEXUALITY FULLY, TO
COME OUT, TO TALK ABOUT IT...

I DON'T MEAN TO... WAVE A
FLAG AND CONSTANTLY REFER
TO YOUR HOMOSEXUALITY,

BUT TO LIVE IT NORMALLY...
THEN YOU REALIZE THAT YOU
HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

YOU HAVE TO SPEAK OUT AND SAY,

"ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I WANT TO
BE ABLE TO WALK ALONG THE STREET

WITHOUT BEING ATTACKED JUST
BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO LOOK GAY!"

[SYLVAIN BISSONNETTE]: FOR
A POLICEMAN TO BE ABLE TO SAY,

"ALL RIGHT! LISTEN,
GUYS, I'M GAY."

I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT HAPPEN
ANYWHERE... IT'LL PROBABLY
HAPPEN SOME DAY.

BUT SOMEONE IN THAT SITUATION,
BEFORE HE COMES OUT,

I THINK HE'LL TAKE HIS TIME
AND LOOK AROUND AT THE PEOPLE

HE'S WORKING WITH,
AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO
APPRECIATE HIM AS A PERSON,

SO THAT AFTERWARDS
THEY'LL JUST SAY,

"OUR COLLEAGUE IS GAY..."

OR MOSLEM, OR WHATEVER.

"HE'S A PERSON
WITH A DIFFERENCE."

I THINK THE PERSON WOULD FEEL
MORE CONFIDENT AFTER OPENING UP,

FEEL FREER.

IT MUST BE HARD FOR SOMEONE TO
GO TO WORK AND TRY TO ACT NORMAL

IT MUST BE HARD FOR SOMEONE TO
GO TO WORK AND TRY TO ACT NORMAL

WHEN DEEP DOWN INSIDE,
HE FEELS VERY DIFFERENT.

IT WOULD BE VERY VERY
DIFFICULT TO WORK.

[PIERRE BELANGER]: AND WE
REFLECT SOCIETY'S ATTITUDES.

SO WE HAVE TO ASK, "HAS SOCIETY
FULLY ACCEPTED HOMOSEXUALS,

OR DO PEOPLE STILL
HAVE RESERVATIONS?"

[RENE OUELLETTE]: I'M VERY HAPPY
TO COME AND SPEAK TO YOU TODAY

BECAUSE, IN A WAY, I'VE BEEN
THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.

I WAS A POLICEMAN
FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS.

AND THEN, AFTER 10 YEARS,
I HAD TO MAKE A CHOICE.

THE QUESTION OF HOMOSEXUALITY
AND THE POLICE WAS...

WELL, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC
DEBATE IN THOSE DAYS.

IT WASN'T AS EASY
AS IT IS TODAY...

SO I DECIDED TO HAND IN
MY RESIGNATION.

WE'RE NOW WORKING TOWARDS
BRINGING GAYS AND THE POLICE

CLOSER TOGETHER.

THERE'S STILL WORK
TO BE DONE ON BOTH SIDES.

MORE AND MORE, WE'RE CLAIMING
FOR OUR COMMUNITY

A CULTURAL DIMENSION

BASED ON OUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE
USUALLY, CULTURAL COMMUNITIES
MEAN ETHNO-CULTURAL COMMUNITIES,

AND WE ARE OBVIOUSLY
NOT AN ETHNIC COMMUNITY.

BUT WE ARE A CULTURAL
COMMUNITY, WITH OUR OWN VALUES
AND OUR OWN WAY OF DOING THINGS,

WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY THE
SAME AS IN... SOCIETY AT LARGE.

THESE DIFFERENCES LEAD
THE POLICE TO APPLY,

- AND SOMETIMES ABUSIVELY,
AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED,
YOU MAY NOT AGREE -

CERTAIN LAWS AND ARTICLES
OF THE CRIMINAL CODE

WHICH DEAL WITH MORALITY.

THE TROUBLE IS THAT THERE'S
A STANDARDIZED CRIMINAL CODE

AND A JURISPRUDENCE
WHICH DEFINE PORNOGRAPHY
FROM A HETEROSEXUAL VIEWPOINT.

AND WHEN THOSE HETEROSEXUAL
STANDARDS ARE IMPOSED ON MY
COMMUNITY, THEY DON'T FIT.

THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT
FOR THE TWO GROUPS TO MEET

AND LEARN TO SPEAK
TO EACH OTHER.

WE WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT
WE'RE JUST PEOPLE, JUST
ORDINARY PEOPLE...

NO WORSE, NO BETTER
THAN ANYBODY ELSE.

-WHEN I FOUND OUT
I WOULD BE WORKING IN THE
GAY VILLAGE, LET ME TELL YOU...

I HAD TO DEAL WITH
MY OWN PREJUDICE.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT KIND
OF AN APPROACH TO TAKE!

HOW WAS I GOING TO WORK?

IN THOSE DAYS, I THOUGHT
OF HOMOSEXUALS AS GUYS WHO
WERE EITHER VERY EFFEMINATE

OR THE OTHER EXTREME,
"MACHO LEATHER MEN"...

AND I THOUGHT, CHRIST! WHEN
I GO INTO ONE OF THOSE PLACES

AND I LOOK AT ONE OF THEM,

WILL HE WANT TO KISS ME OR WHAT?

-LOTS OF GAYS HIDE BEHIND
A FACADE OF NORMALITY.

THEY PLAY THE ROLE
OF A HETEROSEXUAL.

JUST LAST WEEK, AGAIN,

- AND WE'RE GETTING MORE
AND MORE OF THESE CALLS
AT THE CENTRE -

A GUY IN HIS FORTIES,
HOUSE IN THE SUBURBS,
WIFE AND KIDS... SKIDOO,

PILLAR OF THE
COMMUNITY TYPE THING...

HE PHONES IN A STATE OF PANIC,

"I CAN'T HIDE THE FACT
THAT I'M GAY ANYMORE.
WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?"

THAT CREATES A LOT OF PROBLEMS.

BUT SOONER OR LATER,
PEOPLE WHO LIVE LIKE THAT

JUST CAN'T KEEP UP THE PRETENSE
AND THEY HAVE TO... COME OUT.

-BUT DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

I KNOW THAT IF MY FATHER
WALKED OUT TOMORROW

AND ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS GAY,
IT WOULD BE QUITE A SHOCK.

MY FRIENDS WOULD REALLY
START TO LOOK AT ME AND...

I COME FROM A SMALL PLACE SO
WE'D BE THE TALK OF THE TOWN!

-I CAN'T SAY I AGREE,
AND I DO UNDERSTAND.

BUT WHAT I'M TELLING YOU
IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE

WHO, UNABLE TO FACE
THE REJECTION THAT COMES
WITH BEING OPENLY HOMOSEXUAL,

PRETEND TO BE HETEROSEXUALS.

[PIERRE BELANGER]: SOMEONE
WHO'S MARRIED AND HAS CHILDREN
BUT HAS HOMOSEXUAL TENDENCIES,

WHO COMES TO THE VILLAGE
FOR AN EVENING WILL BE LESS
APT TO COOPERATE WITH US.

WHO COMES TO THE VILLAGE
FOR AN EVENING WILL BE LESS
APT TO COOPERATE WITH US.

IF HE GETS ROBBED, HE USUALLY
WON'T FILE A COMPLAINT BECAUSE
HE DOESN'T WANT IT MADE PUBLIC.

BUT A MAN WHO LIVES
HIS HOMOSEXUALITY FULLY

WILL BEHAVE LIKE
ANY OTHER CITIZEN.

-THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ONE,
ON THE OTHER SIDE.

IT'S CALLED...

LES CHAMBRETTES DU VILLAGE.

THERE'S ALSO... YOU SEE THE
HUGE BUILDING OVER THERE?
-HUH, HUH.

[RENE OUELLETTE]: THE DAY
THAT MEN AND WOMEN ARE NO LONGER
ASHAMED OF THEIR HOMOSEXUALITY,

THE DAY THEY STOP
HIDING THAT FACT,

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO FILE
A COMPLAINT. BECAUSE THEN,
THERE WILL BE NOTHING

ANYONE CAN HOLD AGAINST THEM.

WHEN THEY CAN HAVE
STABLE RELATIONSHIPS, MAYBE
THEY'LL START HAVING SAFE SEX.

WE'VE REACHED A POINT NOW WHERE
OUR MESSAGES DON'T GET THROUGH.

WHY BOTHER TELLING PEOPLE TO USE
CONDOMS? THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT.

WHY BOTHER TELLING PEOPLE NOT
TO GO INTO PARKS AT NIGHT
BECAUSE IT'S DANGEROUS?

EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT... BUT
THE PARKS ARE STILL FULL. WHY?

WHEN A GAY ISN'T READY TO COME
OUT, WHERE IS HE SUPPOSED TO GO?

[BENOIT MIGNEAULT]: I'D MUCH
PREFER SOMEONE WHO HAS A REAL
COMING-OUT AT HIS WORKPLACE.

[FRANCOIS FILION]:
SOME PEOPLE CAN'T.

-I KNOW, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO ACT SUPER STRAIGHT AT WORK

AND THEN, GO TO STREET
DEMONSTRATIONS WAVING SIGNS.

IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE.

-YOU CAN'T ALWAYS
COME OUT AT WORK.

TRY WORKING AT GENERAL MOTORS
AND TELLING YOUR COWORKERS

YOU'RE GAY!
-YEAH, I KNOW.

[NADIM MOGHRABI]: YOU DON'T
COME OUT IN THE GAY WORLD.

YOU COME OUT IN THE STRAIGHT
WORLD, WITH YOUR PARENTS,
AT UNIVERSITY, AT WORK...

IT TAKES SOMEBODY
WHO'S PRETTY TOGETHER.

-YOU'RE COMPARING APPLES AND
ORANGES! I MEAN, YOUR PARENTS,
YOUR FAMILY, YOUR FRIENDS,

THAT'S ONE THING. BUT WHERE
YOU WORK, THAT'S NOT THE SAME.

-SOME LAWYERS IN THE STATES
HAVE COME OUT PUBLICLY.

-A LAWYER ISN'T A
CONSTRUCTION WORKER!

-NO, IT'S TOUGH TO
COME OUT IN ANY JOB.

-I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT
EVERYWHERE,

BUT SOME PLACES ARE
MUCH MORE CLOSED...

I ALWAYS COME BACK TO THE
CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND
I COULD FIND OTHER EXAMPLES,

BUT I MEAN... YOU'RE WITH
THESE GUYS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK

AND THEY'RE ALWAYS MAKING
CRACKS ABOUT GAYS, REALLY
DISGUSTING STUFF.

YOU'RE NOT ABOUT TO SAY,
OVER A BALONEY SANDWICH,

"WELL, YESTERDAY,
MY LOVER TOLD ME..."

-AS A HETEROSEXUAL, I WORKED
WITH MARTIN, AND WE HAD TO
GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER.

WE HAD TO GET USED TO
WHO WE WERE AS PEOPLE.

-AND WE TOOK THE TIME TO DO IT.

IT WAS YEARS BEFORE I HAD
MALE HETEROSEXUAL FRIENDS.

LIKE, I DIDN'T ALWAYS
FEEL AT EASE WITH THEM...

AND WITH YOU, WELL...

THERE ARE NO MORE BARRIERS.

-IT'S A PERSON-TO-PERSON
RELATIONSHIP.

-AND THAT'S REASSURING,
BECAUSE AT SOME POINT,

EVEN AT 37 YEARS OLD,

YOU'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING
TO WATCH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING,

AT WORK, WITH PEOPLE
YOU DON'T KNOW TOO WELL.
THERE ARE ALWAYS 2 LEVELS

OF CONVERSATION GOING ON.

-THIS IS A LETTER
FROM MY MOTHER.

IT'S PRETTY HEAVY...

HUH...

"YOU ASKED ME IF
YOU WERE EFFEMINATE.

"I LIED TO YOU, BECAUSE
I WAS VERY UPSET.

"YES, BENOIT, YOU HAVE A VERY
EFFEMINATE MANNER, WHICH YOU
EMPHASIZE BY THE WAY YOU DRESS,

"THE WAY YOU SPEAK,
YOUR ATTITUDE AND BEHAVIOUR.

"IT IS PERFECTLY OBVIOUS
WHAT YOU ARE. I'VE BEEN
AROUND GAYS FOR MANY YEARS,

"AND I RESPECT AND
LIKE THEM A LOT.

"ONLY THEY DON'T FLAUNT
THEIR MARGINALITY.

"THEY LIVE IT WITH DIGNITY.
THEY DON'T DENY WHO THEY ARE,

"BUT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE
ARE OTHER KINDS OF PEOPLE TOO.

"THEY KNOW THAT TO IMPOSE
THEIR DIFFERENCE WOULD ONLY HARM
THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHERS.

"THEY DON'T FEEL THE
NEED TO CONVINCE ANYBODY.
THEY ARE WHO THEY ARE.

"I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT PEOPLE
SAID AFTER YOU LEFT, BECAUSE
YOU WOULD ONLY BE HURT.

I HAVE NO REGRETS. I'M
ONLY TRYING TO TELL YOU
HOW I FEEL..." HEAVY, HUH?

-SUPER MOTHER...

-WELL...

-I DIDN'T THINK I HAD PROBLEMS

WITH MY PARENTS.

MY MOTHER JUST SMILED WHEN
I TOLD HER, "MOM, I'M GOING
OUT WITH SOMEONE."

"OH YES?", SHE SAID.

"HIS NAME IS HUBERT PHILIPPE."
A KNOWING SMILE

FROM MY MOTHER.
I COULD HAVE KILLED HER!

I ASKED HER HOW LONG
SHE'D KNOWN.

"SINCE YOU WERE
A YEAR OLD", SHE SAID.

-WELL, YOU WERE
PRETTY PRECOCIOUS!

-WHEN I TOLD THEM,

MY PARENTS REACTED REALLY
WELL. MY MOTHER CALLED ME
THE NEXT DAY.

SHE TOLD ME THAT MY FATHER
HAD CRIED THAT NIGHT,

BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT IF I LIVED
MY HOMOSEXUALITY, I WOULD RUN UP
AGAINST PREJUDICE,

INTOLERANCE, AND THAT IT
WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME.

-IT WAS MY EX-WIFE
WHO FIRST SPOKE UP.

SHE ADMITTED TO
BEING A LESBIAN.

IT ACTED LIKE A TRIGGER
FOR ME. "I THINK I'M
GAY TOO", I TOLD HER.

IT ACTED LIKE A TRIGGER
FOR ME. "I THINK I'M
GAY TOO", I TOLD HER.

AS SOON AS THAT THOUGHT CROSSED
MY MIND AND I ACTUALLY SAID IT
OUT LOUD, I SWITCHED.

IT WAS LIKE A COIN FLIPPING.

I FELT MYSELF BEING REBORN.

[MARC PARADIS]: THE MORE
OPENLY A HOMOSEXUAL IS ABLE

TO EXPRESS HIS HOMOSEXUALITY
IN SOCIETY,

THE FREER HE WILL BE FROM
THE PROBLEMS SOCIETY MAY
IMPOSE ON HIM...

AND THAT IS A VERY
HEALTHY EXERCISE.

[RINGING]

-CENTRE COMMUNAUTAIRE,
BONJOUR...

O.K., MERCI...

-BONJOUR!
-BONJOUR.

-JE VOUDRAIS SAVOIR C'EST
QUAND, VOTRE PROCHAIN
SOUPER COMMUNAUTAIRE.

[BENOIT MIGNEAULT]: THE ONLY
IMAGES I HAD OF HOMOSEXUALITY

WERE NEGATIVE: ULTRA-EFFEMINATE
PEOPLE, ONE-NIGHT STANDS, DRUGS,
BOOZE...

I COULDN'T IDENTIFY WITH
ANY OF THIS BEHAVIOUR.

THERE WERE NO POSITIVE IMAGES

OF HOMOSEXUALITY
WHEN I WAS YOUNG.

I PRACTICALLY RANSACKED
THE NEIGHBOURHOOD LIBRARIES

LOOKING FOR SOME KIND
OF POSITIVE IMAGE,

BUT THERE WAS ALWAYS AN
UNHAPPY ENDING: EITHER
A SUICIDE,

OR SOMETHING REALLY SAD
THAT PUT YOU RIGHT OFF.

IN SCHOOL, KIDS ARE TOLD
THAT THEY ARE GOING TO
LEAD WONDERFUL LIVES.

THEY WILL BECOME MEN AND
WOMEN, AND THEY WILL HAVE
MARVELOUS EXPERIENCES.

THEY WILL FALL IN LOVE.
IT WILL BE FANTASTIC!

BUT FOR THE HOMOSEXUAL,
IT'S NOT THE SAME THING.
IT'LL BE A SAD STORY.

THAT IS WHEN THE PROBLEMS START.
WHEN YOU GET TO HIGH SCHOOL,

PEOPLE DENY THAT YOUR
ORIENTATION EXISTS.

-AU REVOIR, LES ENFANTS.
A DEMAIN!

[L. GAGLIARDI]: DOES THE LACK
OF HOMOSEXUAL ROLE MODELS

IN TEXTBOOKS BOTHER YOU?

-NO, PERSONALLY, I CAN'T SAY
IT DOES, THOUGH I'D CERTAINLY
PREFER THAT THERE WERE SOME.

AND WHEN SOCIETY IS READY
TO ACCEPT HOMOSEXUALITY
MORE OPENLY,

WE'LL BEGIN TO SEE ROLE
MODELS IN OUR SCHOOL BOOKS.

AT THE MOMENT, THE ONLY WAY
I CAN BRING UP THE TOPIC

OF HOMOSEXUALITY IN SCHOOL,
UNFORTUNATELY, IS BY TALKING
ABOUT AIDS.

[DANY GRAVEL]: CUPID
COULDN'T CARE LESS!

A PROGRAMME FOR THE GAY AND
LESBIAN COMMUNITY OF MONTREAL.

THIS IS DANY GRAVEL.
TODAY, BENOIT MIGNEAULT WILL BE
TALKING TO US ABOUT MASCULINITY.

-OVER THE CENTURIES,

MASCULINITY HAS OFTEN
BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH
DOMINATION, STRENGTH.

WE SPEAK OF POSSESSION,
PENETRATION.

IN SHORT, WE SPEAK
OF THE "FUCKER".

THE FUCKER REPRESENTS STRENGTH.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE MAN BESIDES
YOU BANGS HIS FIST ON THE TABLE,

PEOPLE WILL THINK, "NOW,
THERE'S A MAN FOR YOU;
THERE'S A REAL MAN."

BUT IF THE SAME INDIVIDUAL
STARTS TO CRY,

PEOPLE WILL TAKE HIM
FOR A SISSY,

A WIMP, A FAGGOT...

LET'S LOOK AT HOW
SOCIETY VIEWS WOMEN.

SOCIETY ASSOCIATES WOMEN
WITH SUBMISSION, PASSIVITY;

THEY ARE FUNDAMENTALLY WEAK,
SO TO SPEAK.

AND SO, THEY ARE THE "FUCKED".

THEY SUBMIT TO THE DOMINATION
OF THE FUCKER.

WE CAN OBSERVE THE SAME
MENTALITY IN THE CONDITIONS

WHICH SOCIETY IMPOSES ON
MEN TO MAKE THEM FEEL
TRULY MASCULINE.

THERE'S A CONSTANT THEME:

"YOU'RE A MAN ONLY
IF YOU LOVE A WOMAN."

BUT WHEN YOU'RE HOMOSEXUAL,
YOU DON'T LOVE A WOMAN,
YOU LOVE ANOTHER MAN.

YOU'RE NOT SEEN AS SOMEONE
HAVING A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP
WITH ANOTHER MAN.

YOU'RE CONSIDERED PASSIVE,
SOMEONE WHO SUBMITS TO A
SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP.

YOU DON'T THINK OF A HOMOSEXUAL
COUPLE AS A FUCKER AND A FUCKEE.

NO. IT'S JUST
"SOMEONE BEING FUCKED".

-FOR ME, A BROAD DEFINITION
OF HOMOSEXUALITY WOULD BE

EVERYTHING THAT IS DONE
EXCLUSIVELY AMONG MEN,
BY MEN AND FOR MEN.

BASICALLY, POWER IS
EXERCISED AMONG MEN.

STRUCTURES OF CONTROL
OR RELIGION ARE DOMAINS
STRICTLY RESERVED FOR MEN.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN
INNER SANCTUM OF POWER.

BY THAT, I DON'T MEAN
TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH
THESE POWER STRUCTURES,

NOR DO I MEAN TO SAY THAT
HOMOSEXUALS USE THEIR POWER

IN A POSITIVE WAY.

ON THE CONTRARY!

-BONJOUR, JEROME.
-BONJOUR, RAYMOND.

-BONJOUR, JEROME.
-BONJOUR, RAYMOND.

-COMMENT CA VA?
-CA VA MIEUX, MERCI.

-CA ME FAIT PLAISIR,
MOI AUSSI, DE TE VOIR.

I DON'T SEE WHY IT SHOULD
BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR TWO
MEN TO BECOME A COUPLE.

THE FEELINGS ARE THE SAME.
LOVE IS THE SAME!

IT'S NOT MASCULINE/FEMININE,
IT'S MASCULINE/MASCULINE.

THE FEELINGS ARE
EXACTLY THE SAME.

IT'S THE SAME THRILL,
THE SAME PASSION...

THE SAME BLINDNESS,

THE SAME... EMOTIONS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY DIFFERENCE.

-WHEN I USED TO
TOUCH MY EX-WIFE,

WHEN I MADE LOVE
TO HER, IT WAS GOOD.

BUT I ALWAYS FELT THERE WAS
SOMETHING MISSING, AN ELEMENT
THAT I COULDN'T QUITE DEFINE,

BECAUSE FOR ME, AT THE TIME,
IT WAS TABOO.

I CAME TO TERMS WITH THAT.

AND TODAY, WHEN I'M WITH A MAN
AND I MAKE LOVE TO A MAN,

THE PLEASURE OF STROKING
HIS SKIN, OF BEING PRESSED
AGAINST HIM, IT'S...

IT'S DIFFERENT.

AND IT GOES RIGHT TO
THE DEPTHS OF MY BEING.

AND I AM TRANSPORTED.

[GHISLAIN BIRON]: MY DRAWINGS
ARE STILL TOO PRUDISH,

BUT THEY'RE COMING ALONG.

I'M TRYING TO EXPRESS
WHAT IS ESSENTIAL FOR ME:

SEX.

I WANT THEM MORE EROTIC,
MORE EXPLICIT BUT WITH
THE SAME SENSUALITY.

I WANT TO DEPICT LOVE SCENES

BETWEEN TWO MEN AND TO FEEL
ABSOLUTELY FREE ABOUT IT.

[L. GAGLIARDI]: THEY'RE
NOT REALLY LOVE SCENES.

-YES, THEY'RE LOVE SCENES. IF
TWO GUYS SCREW FOR 5 MINUTES,
THAT'S A LOVE SCENE.

-ISN'T THAT JUST SEX?

-IT'S SEX, BUT
THERE'S ALSO LOVE.

-SO A FIVE-MINUTE QUICKIE IN
A BAR, YOU'D CALL THAT LOVE?

-FIVE MINUTES OF LOVE.

-SO WHAT WOULD YOU CALL A
RELATIONSHIP THAT LASTS 3 YEARS?

-A RELATIONSHIP
THAT LASTS 3 YEARS.

THEY NEEDED 3 YEARS
TO LOVE EACH OTHER.

IF SOME SCREW...

OR TOUCH IN A BAR
FOR JUST 5 MINUTES,

THAT'S ALL THE TIME THEY NEEDED.

-WE HAVE OUR VALUES, WE HAVE
OUR WAY OF DOING THINGS,

AND OUR CULTURE IS HEAVILY
INFLUENCED BY THAT.

IT'S A VERY
IMAGE-DRIVEN CULTURE,

ONE THAT EMPHASIZES
THE MALE BODY.

SOME WOMEN FIND IT
ALMOST PORNOGRAPHIC...

BUT IN OUR CULTURE,
IT'S NOT CONSIDERED PORNOGRAPHY.

[BENOIT MIGNEAULT]: GAYS ARE
VERY ATTRACTED BY A VIRILE LOOK.

THE POLICE, THE ARMY,
THEY ARE ALL ARCHETYPES
WHICH ARE PART OF GAY EROTICISM.

THEY REPRESENT THE ULTIMATE
IN MASCULINITY. IT'S THE
DESIRE TO BE A MAN...

OR TO BE WITH A MAN.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM
AND FANTASIZE,

YOU SEE YOURSELF AS THAT GUY.

NO ONE WILL EVER BOTHER HIM
BECAUSE HE'S SUPER VIRILE.

NOBODY WILL EVER SAY,
"YOU'RE JUST A FAG."

HIS VIRILITY IS NEVER IN DOUBT.

-I WAS 25 AT THE TIME.

HOMOSEXUALITY WAS AT THE
HEIGHT OF ITS MACHO PERIOD.

FOR 20 YEARS, GAYS HAD
BEEN COMING OUT IN THE GAY
COMMUNITY IN NORTH AMERICA,

AND WE HAD FINALLY GONE FROM THE
ARCHETYPAL QUEEN OF THE SIXTIES,

WHEN A MAN WHO WANTED
TO SEDUCE ANOTHER MAN DRESSED UP

AS AN OBJECT OF DESIRE...

THAT IS, HE ADOPTED
FEMALE BEHAVIOUR

IN ORDER TO ATTRACT A MAN.

THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOUR HAS
BECOME... LEGENDARY AMONG GAYS.

NOWADAYS, THE HOMOSEXUAL CAN
JUST BE A MAN IN A RELATIONSHIP
WITH ANOTHER MAN.

SO FROM THE SIXTIES
TO THE EIGHTIES,

SO FROM THE SIXTIES
TO THE EIGHTIES,

THERE WAS A TRANSITION
FROM QUEEN TO MACHO.

[L. GAGLIARDI]: WERE YOU AWARE
THAT THE POLICE ARE PART OF
THE GAYS' FANTASY WORLD?

-NO KIDDING?

I... I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

-I KNEW THAT WEARING LEATHER...
THERE'S A SIMILARITY,

BUT NO, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

[JEAN-GUY LEBLANC]: I WROTE LA
DIFFERENCE DANS LA DIFFERENCE

BECAUSE I FELT
THAT AT UNIVERSITY,

THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO HIDE
THE GAY PHENOMENON.

I THOUGHT THE BOOK MIGHT BE
OF SOME HELP TO HOMOPHILES,

BECAUSE THEY OFTEN CAN'T
UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE
THE OBJECT OF PREJUDICE.

-I DON'T LIKE THE EXPRESSION
"HOMO-SEX-UALITY", BECAUSE
IT'S NOT ALWAYS INSTANT SEX.

I LIKE THE EXPRESSION
"HOMOPHILE", WHICH MEANS
"TO LOVE SOMEONE LIKE YOURSELF",

SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX.

-HOMOPHILE IS THE GENERIC TERM
FOR BOTH HOMOSEXUALS AND GAYS.

HOMOSEXUALS ARE THOSE WHO
DON'T ACCEPT THEMSELVES,

OR WHO LEAD A DOUBLE LIFE,

AND/OR ARE NOT OPEN TO LIVING
EXCLUSIVELY AS HOMOPHILES.

GAYS DO ACCEPT THEMSELVES
AND LEAD EXCLUSIVELY
HOMOPHILE LIVES.

[RAYMOND FAFARD]: GAY CULTURE
IS NOT NECESSARILY PORNOGRAPHY,

SAUNAS, THE GAY VILLAGE.

I CALL THAT "BEHAVIOUR".

FOR ME, CULTURE HAS A
MUCH WIDER CONNOTATION.

IT REFERS TO A BODY OF THINKING
EXPRESSED THROUGH CREATIVITY.

WHEN I THINK OF A NOVELIST
OR A FILMMAKER,

THAT'S WHAT I CALL
"GAY CULTURE".

-IT'S A PARTICULAR
BODY OF LITERATURE,

AS OPPOSED TO
LITERATURE IN GENERAL.

[L. GAGLIARDI]: WHAT'S
SO SPECIAL ABOUT IT?

-WELL, GAY CULTURE SPEAKS
TO PEOPLE ABOUT WHO THEY ARE,

ABOUT THEIR LIVES AS GAYS,

AND THAT'S HOW IT AFFECTS THEM.

THAT'S THE WAY I SEE CULTURE.

IT'S CREATED IN RESPONSE
TO THE COMMON EXPERIENCE
OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE.

IT'S A MEANS BY WHICH THEY
CAN IDENTIFY AMONG THEMSELVES.

-WHAT MAKES BEING GAY DISTINCT
IS HAVING AS AN OBJECT

OF CONTEMPLATION A
BEAUTIFUL MALE BODY.

DOES THIS LITTLE FACT
- THIS FUNDAMENTAL FACT -

MEAN THAT IF I WERE A NOVELIST,

I'D HAVE TO PUT A BEAUTIFUL MALE
BODY IN ALL THE NOVELS I WRITE?

THAT'S THE DISTINCTION I MAKE
WHEN I SPEAK OF CULTURE!

HOMOSEXUAL LITERATURE
DOES NOT EXIST;

LITERATURE EXISTS.

-MY PAINTING LED ME TO DISCOVER

AND APPRECIATE THE ART
OF TOM OF FINLAND.

HE'S DRAWN PRACTICALLY
ALL THE SEXUAL FANTASIES.

THERE'S A LOT OF ENERGY,
A STRONG AESTHETIC SENSE.

SOME MIGHT FIND IT EXCESSIVE
OR EXAGGERATED,

BUT I THINK IT REFLECTS THE
EXTREMES OF OUR FANTASIES.

AND YOU OPEN THE BOOK AND
IT MAKES YOUR HEAD SPIN.

YOU GET REALLY TURNED ON.

YOU CAN'T STAY HOME AFTER YOU'VE
LOOKED AT A BOOK LIKE THAT.

YOU HAVE TO GO OUT.

[SYLVAIN BISSONNETTE]: I DON'T
KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE
HAVE SUPPRESSED THEIR FEELINGS

FOR SO LONG, BUT ONCE THEY
ACCEPT THEMSELVES AS THEY ARE...

WELL, THEY SEEM TO GO
TO THE OTHER EXTREME.

THEY WANT TO COME OUT.

THEY WANT IT KNOWN,

THEY WANT TO BE SEEN.

THEY REALLY WANT TO GO FOR IT.

-YES, I LIKE RAUNCHY BARS.

[L. GAGLIARDI]: WHY?

-I LIKE LOOKING AT GUYS.

I'M FASCINATED BY THE SEXINESS
OF THE GUYS WHO HANG OUT THERE,

THE SEDUCTION GAMES THAT GO ON.

MAYBE IT'S THE DARKNESS...

SOMETIMES IT'S THE ONLY
THING YOU CAN DO IN THERE.

-PERSONALLY, I DON'T
LIKE THE BAR SCENE.

I FIND IT... DEGRADING.

WHEN I LEAVE, I'M ALL IN KNOTS,

BECAUSE THE ENERGY IN
THOSE BARS IS JUST NOT ME.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
BEAUTIFUL BODIES IN THERE,

YOU THINK, "I CAN NEVER
HAVE A BODY LIKE THAT!"

WHEN I USED TO GO TO BARS,
I NEVER FELT THAT I COULD
BE WITH THOSE GUYS,

BECAUSE I THOUGHT...
I NEVER THOUGHT I HAD
A GOOD ENOUGH BODY.

-HAVING GAY FRIENDS IS OKAY;

SITTING AROUND TALKING IS OKAY;

BUT GOING INTO THAT MILIEU? WO!

SO ONE DAY THE GUYS SAID,
"COME ON, COME ON!"

I SAID, "OKAY, BUT
ON ONE CONDITION."

I TOLD MARTIN, "I DON'T
WANT ANYONE HITTING ON ME."

I FIGURED I KNEW WHAT THE
GAY BARS WERE LIKE, THAT
IT GOT PRETTY HOT IN THERE.

SO I TOLD MARTIN, "PRETEND
YOU'RE MY LOVER IF YOU SENSE
SOMEONE COMING ON TO ME..."

[BOTH GUYS]: STICK CLOSE TO ME!

-SO IN WE WENT AND...
IT WAS REALLY SOMETHING!

THE FIRST 15 MINUTES, I KEPT
MY EYES GLUED TO THE FLOOR.

-IN THOSE DAYS, WE WERE
FAR LESS OPEN IN PUBLIC...

BUT WE HAD OUR BARS.

THERE WEREN'T VERY MANY...

THERE WAS THE HAWAIIAN LOUNGE,
FOR INSTANCE.

BUT AT NIGHT, WHEN
WE WENT OUT TO THE BARS,

THERE WAS NO HOLDING US BACK!

-THE THING ABOUT GAY BARS...

YOU KNOW ALL THE GUYS ARE GAY.
THERE'S NEVER ANY QUESTION.

FINALLY, A PLACE WHERE
YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT
THE WAY YOU WANT TO.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!

PEOPLE ARE VERY OPEN,
VERY HONEST, VERY...

NO HOLDS BARRED.
THAT'S WHY WE GO THERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIDE ANYTHING.
THERE'S NO IMAGE TO PROTECT,

JUST THE OPPOSITE. FINALLY,
YOU CAN BE WHO YOU REALLY ARE.

-UNFORTUNATELY, FOR MANY GAYS...

-UNFORTUNATELY, FOR MANY GAYS...

THEIR LIFE IS THE BAR SCENE.

I'VE SAID IT BEFORE: PEOPLE
WHO ARE UNABLE TO LEAD A
GAY LIFE OUTSIDE THE BARS

LIVE IT INSIDE. AND THERE'S
A KIND OF BROTHERHOOD,

OF CAMARADERIE IN THE BARS,

WHICH IS THE ESSENCE
OF THE GAY COMMUNITY.

[L. GAGLIARDI]: BUT FOR
MANY GAYS, BARS HAVE A
NEGATIVE CONNOTATION.

-YES, FOR MANY GAYS...
BARS ARE NEGATIVE.

FOR MANY GAYS,
SAUNAS ARE NEGATIVE.

FOR MANY GAYS, THE GAY
COMMUNITY IS NEGATIVE.

BUT FOR ME... THE COMMUNITY,
THE SAUNAS, THE BARS,

IT'S ALL PART OF
WHO I AM AS A GAY MAN.

IF MY LIFE REVOLVED AROUND
BARS, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

OR IF IT REVOLVED
AROUND THE SAUNAS.

BUT THAT SCENE IS
ALL PART OF WHO I AM.

-THE SAUNA MEANS
MULTIPLE PARTNERS.

IT'S... AN ORGY...

NOT BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER
OF PEOPLE GATHERED TOGETHER,

BUT IT'S AN ORGY IN TERMS
OF DESIRE, SEDUCTION...

YOU SEE BODIES ALMOST NAKED...

YOU SEE THEM IN THE SHOWER...

YOU SEE THEM IN THE BATHS,

IN THE ROOMS...

I FIND IT BEAUTIFUL.

IF YOU NEED TO BE WITH SOMEONE
IN THE SAUNA, IT'S VERY QUICK.

YOU NEED TO TOUCH A BODY.

YOU DON'T WASTE TIME.

THERE'S ALWAYS A BIT
OF A LETDOWN AFTERWARDS,

BUT IF I HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH
SOMEONE FOR 2 MONTHS, 2 YEARS,

I MIGHT END UP
WITH THE SAME FEELING.

SO I GO BETWEEN THE TWO:

BETWEEN THE ANONYMOUS
AND THE PERSONAL.

-ONCE LOVE ENTERED THE PICTURE,

IT WAS OUT OF THE QUESTION -
AT LEAST FOR ME,

BECAUSE I'M MUCH TOO JEALOUS!

I WOULD NEVER HAVE BROUGHT
MY FRIEND TO THOSE PLACES.

WE DID IT AT HOME!

PEOPLE ACCUSE US OF
SLEEPING WITH EVERYONE,

AND I TRULY FIND THAT OFFENSIVE.

IT IS TRUE THAT WHEN WE'RE
YOUNG WE HAVE MANY PARTNERS,

PARTLY BECAUSE THE
OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE.

IT'S ALSO A QUESTION OF YOUTH

AND A VORACIOUS APPETITE AND...

WELL, MAYBE IT CAN BE EXCESSIVE,

BUT IS THERE SUCH A THING
AS EXCESS IN SEXUAL PASSION?

HETEROSEXUALS ARE
JUST AS EXCESSIVE.

I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE.

-WE GAYS TALK MORE ABOUT SEX

BECAUSE WE'RE
MORE OPEN ABOUT IT.

MAYBE WE'VE COME A STEP
FURTHER THAN HETEROSEXUALS.

MAYBE THEY'RE STILL
HIDING BEHIND A MASK.

AND IN MANY RESPECTS, IT'S
STILL TABOO FOR THEM TO
TALK OPENLY ABOUT SEX!

THE FACT THAT WE CAN TALK
ABOUT IT MEANS WE'RE STRONG
ENOUGH TO DROP THE MASK.

WE'RE NOT EMBARRASSED
TO TALK ABOUT IT.

-FOR A LONG TIME, I DIDN'T TELL
YVAN THAT I WAS HIV-POSITIVE.

IT WASN'T SO MUCH...

TO PROTECT MYSELF, IT'S THAT
YOU TRY TO SPARE YOUR FRIENDS.

IT'S STUPID, I PROBABLY
COULD HAVE USED HIS SUPPORT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW...

[YVAN MARTIN]: I SAID TO MARTIN,
"WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME SOONER?"

AND I REMEMBER HIS REACTION...

YOU KNOW, FIRST I SAID,
"IS IT TRUE?"

YOUR EYES FILLED WITH TEARS...

I LOOKED AT YOU AND
I SAID, "LISTEN TO ME:

"NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS
WITH YOUR HEALTH, I'LL
ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU.

"NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

"I'M STILL YOUR FRIEND,
I REALLY CARE FOR YOU!

"AND THAT'S THE WAY
IT WILL ALWAYS BE...

"AND THAT'S THE WAY
IT WILL ALWAYS BE...

FOREVER."

-IT'D BE HARD TO FIND A LOVER
THAT I'M AS COMFORTABLE WITH
AS I AM WITH YVAN.

[RAYMOND FAFARD]:
I HOPE WHEN I'M OLD

- AND I'M GETTING THERE -

THAT THERE WILL BE A
SENIORS' RESIDENCE FOR GAYS.

I DON'T MEAN FOR FLIRTING,
BUT SO WE CAN TALK TO
EACH OTHER OPENLY.

I KNOW THERE ARE GAY FATHERS

AND GAY PEOPLE IN
OLD FOLKS' HOMES TODAY

WHO HAVE TO KEEP UP APPEARANCES
UNTIL THE DAY THEY DIE!

AT MEALS, THEY'RE
BESIDE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE
TERRIBLY UPSET IF THEY KNEW.

"MY GOD, WAS HE
REALLY LIKE THAT?"

"THAT'S HARD TO BELIEVE!"

"DON'T TELL ME HE WAS A FAG?!"

BEYOND A CERTAIN AGE,
YOU DON'T TELL PEOPLE.

MY OWN LIFE HAS
BEEN VERY REWARDING.

THERE WERE TIMES - I CAN
TALK ABOUT THEM LIGHTLY NOW -

BUT... WHEN YOU'RE KICKED OUT
OF A NOVITIATE

AND TWO TELEVISION STATIONS!...

THERE WAS MY REPUTATION,

MY FUTURE, HOW I WAS GOING
TO REBUILD MY LIFE...

AND EACH TIME I HAD
TO START ALL OVER AGAIN.

IT WAS NO BED OF ROSES.

LIFE ISN'T EASY.

BUT AT LEAST I'VE
HAD THE SATISFACTION

OF FULFILLING MYSELF
WITH ANOTHER PERSON...

TWICE IN MY LIFE!

AND THAT'S WONDERFUL.

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