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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,124 --> 00:00:17,482 ♪ 2 00:00:17,768 --> 00:00:20,269 [monitor continues beeping] 3 00:01:01,437 --> 00:01:03,637 [anzilotti] this is richard cottingham. 4 00:01:03,755 --> 00:01:06,681 By all accounts, he's dying. 5 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,625 Personally, I think he's like a cockroach and 6 00:01:08,652 --> 00:01:10,235 He just lives forever. 7 00:01:24,126 --> 00:01:25,550 In the world of serial killers, 8 00:01:25,552 --> 00:01:26,885 I would rank richard cottingham 9 00:01:26,887 --> 00:01:28,629 Up there with the worst of them. 10 00:01:28,747 --> 00:01:30,330 [reporter] ...Firemen were the first to arrive on the 11 00:01:30,448 --> 00:01:32,649 Scene at about 9:30 this morning. 12 00:01:32,676 --> 00:01:34,559 Two women were found decapitated, 13 00:01:34,561 --> 00:01:36,394 With their hands cut off as well. 14 00:01:36,396 --> 00:01:39,455 ♪ 15 00:01:39,517 --> 00:01:42,659 It could be up to 100 women that he's killed... 16 00:01:42,686 --> 00:01:44,812 New jersey, and beyond. 17 00:01:44,930 --> 00:01:48,482 He's flown under the radar all this time... 18 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,985 Because he's not given up all of his crimes. 19 00:01:52,304 --> 00:01:54,429 ♪ 20 00:01:54,448 --> 00:02:00,252 After 18 years of time with this savage... 21 00:02:00,254 --> 00:02:04,397 I've been able to get a number of confessions. 22 00:02:04,416 --> 00:02:07,159 It was a flat-out negotiation. 23 00:02:07,277 --> 00:02:08,852 He's the king of all deals. 24 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:13,173 It's all about, "what are you gonna do for me?" 25 00:02:13,292 --> 00:02:15,509 That was a big thing for him, control. 26 00:02:15,627 --> 00:02:17,602 ♪ 27 00:02:17,604 --> 00:02:21,690 My game with him was to get him to confess... 28 00:02:21,692 --> 00:02:24,852 To bring a measure of peace and 29 00:02:24,970 --> 00:02:27,262 Closure to the victims' families. 30 00:02:27,380 --> 00:02:29,189 Their minds, over these decades, 31 00:02:29,308 --> 00:02:32,284 Race with theories and race with suspects, 32 00:02:32,286 --> 00:02:35,520 Some of whom were in their own families. 33 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,547 They want to know what happened. 34 00:02:37,575 --> 00:02:39,307 ♪ 35 00:02:39,368 --> 00:02:42,460 Richard cottingham is responsible for a lot more. 36 00:02:42,462 --> 00:02:45,889 ♪ 37 00:02:45,916 --> 00:02:47,465 I was not done with him. 38 00:02:47,467 --> 00:02:50,394 You can take all the serial killers there's ever been. 39 00:02:50,421 --> 00:02:52,588 There's not been one like me. 40 00:02:57,595 --> 00:03:03,974 ♪ 41 00:03:04,368 --> 00:03:10,580 ♪ 42 00:03:10,608 --> 00:03:16,570 ♪ 43 00:03:16,688 --> 00:03:21,591 ♪ 44 00:03:21,619 --> 00:03:25,245 ♪ 45 00:03:25,364 --> 00:03:27,489 ♪ 46 00:03:27,607 --> 00:03:28,765 In the year 2000, 47 00:03:28,792 --> 00:03:32,844 I was assigned a series of cold cases. 48 00:03:32,846 --> 00:03:38,391 The majority of them were from 1974 through 1965. 49 00:03:38,510 --> 00:03:41,644 ♪ 50 00:03:41,646 --> 00:03:44,614 When I pulled the cases, the evidence officer 51 00:03:44,642 --> 00:03:48,435 Gives me boxes and boxes and boxes... 52 00:03:48,553 --> 00:03:50,528 Report after report, 53 00:03:50,530 --> 00:03:52,622 Lab results after lab results, 54 00:03:52,650 --> 00:03:54,775 Crime scene photo after crime scene photo. 55 00:03:54,893 --> 00:03:57,294 ♪ 56 00:03:57,321 --> 00:04:00,964 I was pretty much the new guy in the homicide squad and, 57 00:04:00,991 --> 00:04:03,875 This was an overwhelming and daunting task... 58 00:04:03,877 --> 00:04:06,728 For somebody that was kind of 59 00:04:06,789 --> 00:04:09,806 Green around the gills. 60 00:04:09,833 --> 00:04:12,550 What I didn't know when I first started digging through 61 00:04:12,552 --> 00:04:15,862 Those files was that it would ignite a fire inside of me. 62 00:04:15,881 --> 00:04:19,299 ♪ 63 00:04:19,418 --> 00:04:22,319 There were twelve cases. 64 00:04:22,346 --> 00:04:25,397 There were a number of girls that were 65 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:27,824 Either last seen hitchhiking... 66 00:04:27,851 --> 00:04:30,852 Or had been picked up by a stranger. 67 00:04:30,971 --> 00:04:33,330 Ultimately, raped and then murdered, 68 00:04:33,357 --> 00:04:37,742 Dumped in and around bergen county. 69 00:04:37,744 --> 00:04:40,562 Bergen county is situated in the northern part of 70 00:04:40,564 --> 00:04:43,006 New jersey, and it is just across the hudson river 71 00:04:43,033 --> 00:04:45,325 From new york city. 72 00:04:45,444 --> 00:04:47,619 ♪ 73 00:04:47,738 --> 00:04:50,330 The whole community was in shock. 74 00:04:50,449 --> 00:04:52,924 Kids stopped walking home from school. 75 00:04:52,926 --> 00:04:54,776 All these girls were innocent. 76 00:04:54,837 --> 00:04:57,612 Innocent kids. 77 00:04:57,673 --> 00:05:00,507 You know, they had a life ahead of them. 78 00:05:00,625 --> 00:05:02,751 There were a lot of theories. 79 00:05:02,869 --> 00:05:05,695 They never found who did it. 80 00:05:05,723 --> 00:05:07,848 And it went on for a long time. 81 00:05:07,966 --> 00:05:09,607 ♪ 82 00:05:09,609 --> 00:05:10,925 Everybody was a suspect. 83 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:13,186 Even back in the beginning days... 84 00:05:13,305 --> 00:05:16,706 The priest of the church was a suspect. 85 00:05:16,734 --> 00:05:18,466 ♪ 86 00:05:18,527 --> 00:05:20,618 It never seemed to go anywhere. 87 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:23,355 Guy going around killing girls from bergen county, 88 00:05:23,473 --> 00:05:27,050 You figure somebody knew something. 89 00:05:27,077 --> 00:05:29,052 My life changed immediately. 90 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:30,871 I had no more sister. 91 00:05:30,989 --> 00:05:32,889 My family wanted answers. 92 00:05:32,916 --> 00:05:38,378 Who, where, when, why? We had no idea. 93 00:05:38,497 --> 00:05:41,139 You go from one as young as 13, and then, 94 00:05:41,141 --> 00:05:44,885 You know, one as old as 29 years old. 95 00:05:45,003 --> 00:05:46,702 They're wildly different in some aspects 96 00:05:46,764 --> 00:05:48,855 Of their victimology. 97 00:05:48,857 --> 00:05:50,540 ♪ 98 00:05:50,601 --> 00:05:53,393 At the time, the community of bergen county is just really 99 00:05:53,512 --> 00:05:55,653 On edge, and the police are just all-in trying to 100 00:05:55,655 --> 00:05:57,655 Figure out if there's any commonalities 101 00:05:57,657 --> 00:05:59,583 Between these killings. 102 00:05:59,610 --> 00:06:01,751 They're not finding any. 103 00:06:01,779 --> 00:06:03,753 ♪ 104 00:06:03,781 --> 00:06:06,406 They had several main suspects... 105 00:06:06,525 --> 00:06:08,758 Who may or may not have been involved. 106 00:06:08,786 --> 00:06:10,985 ♪ 107 00:06:11,104 --> 00:06:14,990 There was a convicted rapist, raymond alves. 108 00:06:14,992 --> 00:06:17,992 He claimed he'd killed 15 women, 109 00:06:18,111 --> 00:06:21,012 And he was up for parole. 110 00:06:21,014 --> 00:06:24,499 There was robert reldan, a former honor student 111 00:06:24,659 --> 00:06:27,469 Who had been involved in rapes. 112 00:06:27,587 --> 00:06:29,704 Another suspect was joe kallinger, 113 00:06:29,765 --> 00:06:31,840 Who was known as 'the shoemaker' for a knife that 114 00:06:31,958 --> 00:06:35,619 He used in a murder spree in three states, 115 00:06:35,646 --> 00:06:37,771 Which ended in bergen county... 116 00:06:37,889 --> 00:06:41,032 With the death of a nurse. 117 00:06:41,034 --> 00:06:44,027 I went through all these suspects. 118 00:06:44,187 --> 00:06:48,556 I flew all over the country following leads. 119 00:06:48,617 --> 00:06:50,450 And they all went nowhere. 120 00:06:50,569 --> 00:06:52,727 The one name that I couldn't eliminate 121 00:06:52,788 --> 00:06:55,038 Was richard cottingham. 122 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:01,094 Richard cottingham in 1980, 123 00:07:01,096 --> 00:07:06,466 Had been convicted of killing five women. 124 00:07:06,585 --> 00:07:08,051 Three were in new york city, 125 00:07:08,211 --> 00:07:10,228 Two were in bergen county. 126 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:13,080 Those killings in times square dubbed him 127 00:07:13,142 --> 00:07:16,826 'the torso killer' by the new york media. 128 00:07:16,854 --> 00:07:19,512 Because several of the victims had 129 00:07:19,631 --> 00:07:21,982 Their heads cut off, their hands cut off, 130 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:23,817 And the room lit on fire. 131 00:07:23,935 --> 00:07:25,735 ♪ 132 00:07:25,896 --> 00:07:27,803 He ultimately got caught in bergen county 133 00:07:27,865 --> 00:07:30,248 Trying to rape and kill another woman... 134 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:34,569 At a local motel in hasbrouck heights, new jersey. 135 00:07:34,687 --> 00:07:36,846 [news] cottingham is being held in a jail adjacent to 136 00:07:36,874 --> 00:07:38,590 The bergen county courthouse. 137 00:07:38,592 --> 00:07:40,500 He was originally charged with aggravated sexual 138 00:07:40,619 --> 00:07:42,811 Assault and attempted murder of a woman thought to be 139 00:07:42,813 --> 00:07:46,089 A prostitute on may 22nd, in a jersey motel. 140 00:07:46,249 --> 00:07:49,593 [anzilotti] of these 12 cold case homicides that 141 00:07:49,753 --> 00:07:51,169 I'm investigating, some of them were 142 00:07:51,287 --> 00:07:54,731 All centered around this area. 143 00:07:54,733 --> 00:07:59,027 Cottingham was incarcerated since his arrest in 1980. 144 00:07:59,029 --> 00:08:01,771 In the years that followed, some nypd detectives, 145 00:08:01,932 --> 00:08:04,590 As well as bergen county detectives attempted to 146 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:08,578 Gain his cooperation in unsolved murders. 147 00:08:08,580 --> 00:08:11,031 Unfortunately, it never materialized into anything. 148 00:08:11,149 --> 00:08:17,721 ♪ 149 00:08:17,748 --> 00:08:19,723 Everything I knew about him at that point was 150 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:22,726 Focused in the late 70s, up until 1980. 151 00:08:22,753 --> 00:08:24,127 Had no idea if he could have been operating 152 00:08:24,287 --> 00:08:26,621 In the 60s or early 70s. 153 00:08:26,739 --> 00:08:28,231 But certainly, it was a possibility 154 00:08:28,258 --> 00:08:30,108 Just based on his age. 155 00:08:30,110 --> 00:08:32,159 So, he was always just lingering in the back of 156 00:08:32,179 --> 00:08:34,646 My head as like, hey, one day, I gotta get to this guy 157 00:08:34,648 --> 00:08:36,890 Cottingham and see if he's good for any of these. 158 00:08:37,008 --> 00:08:41,728 ♪ 159 00:08:41,846 --> 00:08:44,231 In 2003, I got promoted to sergeant, 160 00:08:44,349 --> 00:08:46,066 And that's when I moved on to the street crimes unit. 161 00:08:46,184 --> 00:08:48,752 It was known as the special investigations squad. 162 00:08:48,779 --> 00:08:49,811 And as a sergeant, 163 00:08:49,929 --> 00:08:51,938 I was responsible for a number of detectives. 164 00:08:52,056 --> 00:08:54,741 We were putting together really big cases. 165 00:08:54,859 --> 00:08:56,760 But in between there, I made sure I always 166 00:08:56,787 --> 00:09:00,764 Found the time for my cold case work. 167 00:09:00,791 --> 00:09:02,715 There was many a Sunday night 168 00:09:02,717 --> 00:09:04,901 Where I'd put the kids to bed and, 169 00:09:04,903 --> 00:09:07,103 I would take an a to z file full of reports and 170 00:09:07,130 --> 00:09:10,014 Crime scene photos... 171 00:09:10,016 --> 00:09:12,108 And just pour a glass of wine at my dining room table 172 00:09:12,135 --> 00:09:13,701 And just... 173 00:09:13,762 --> 00:09:15,779 Spend hours poring over the cases and taking notes, 174 00:09:15,806 --> 00:09:17,781 Just on my own time. 175 00:09:17,808 --> 00:09:19,999 Doing these cold cases was not my only job or 176 00:09:20,018 --> 00:09:22,602 My only assignment, by any stretch. 177 00:09:22,721 --> 00:09:26,197 You've got a whole bunch of cases that you're assigned to. 178 00:09:26,199 --> 00:09:28,032 You've got other homicides, 179 00:09:28,034 --> 00:09:31,795 You've got active organized crime investigations. 180 00:09:31,955 --> 00:09:35,282 Yet, you had to find time to work the cold cases 181 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,119 Because we never, ever close them. 182 00:09:39,237 --> 00:09:40,862 Never. 183 00:09:40,980 --> 00:09:43,256 [anzilotti] having daughters... 184 00:09:43,258 --> 00:09:46,101 And then investigating the rapes and murders of these 185 00:09:46,128 --> 00:09:49,220 Young girls, as teenagers, really hit home for me. 186 00:09:49,222 --> 00:09:50,855 And I wanted to give these families 187 00:09:50,857 --> 00:09:52,849 Some sense of justice. 188 00:09:52,851 --> 00:09:58,079 ♪ 189 00:09:58,140 --> 00:10:00,715 I just grew so attached to these cases. 190 00:10:00,833 --> 00:10:02,976 I knew them inside and out. 191 00:10:03,094 --> 00:10:05,161 I had been studying them for years, 192 00:10:05,188 --> 00:10:06,813 Kind of on a part-time basis, 193 00:10:06,931 --> 00:10:09,816 And got very passionate about it. 194 00:10:09,934 --> 00:10:11,726 But I wasn't making any inroads, 195 00:10:11,844 --> 00:10:15,630 And that really just nagged at me. 196 00:10:15,657 --> 00:10:16,823 I never wanted to forget them, 197 00:10:16,941 --> 00:10:18,842 I never wanted to give up on them. 198 00:10:18,869 --> 00:10:21,085 ♪ 199 00:10:21,087 --> 00:10:25,890 In just researching some different suspects... 200 00:10:25,892 --> 00:10:28,885 The name richard cottingham kept coming up again. 201 00:10:28,887 --> 00:10:31,129 ♪ 202 00:10:31,247 --> 00:10:33,748 I was aware that other detectives before me had 203 00:10:33,866 --> 00:10:37,861 Tried to speak to cottingham, and he never cooperated. 204 00:10:37,888 --> 00:10:40,029 How am I going to get this guy cottingham to talk to me? 205 00:10:40,057 --> 00:10:44,342 ♪ 206 00:10:44,460 --> 00:10:47,187 By sheer coincidence, cottingham was housed in the 207 00:10:47,305 --> 00:10:50,874 Same prison, on the same wing with 'the iceman'. 208 00:10:50,901 --> 00:10:54,903 ♪ 209 00:10:55,021 --> 00:10:59,032 Besides these 12 cold cases involving young females, 210 00:10:59,150 --> 00:11:01,109 I was also looking into a number of 211 00:11:01,227 --> 00:11:04,220 Other cold case homicides... 212 00:11:04,247 --> 00:11:08,132 Some of which involved mob-style hits. 213 00:11:08,134 --> 00:11:12,386 This led me to richard 'the iceman' kuklinski. 214 00:11:12,388 --> 00:11:14,956 The iceman was at that time incarcerated for 215 00:11:15,074 --> 00:11:16,791 A number of homicides that he had committed 216 00:11:16,909 --> 00:11:18,718 In and around bergen county. 217 00:11:18,837 --> 00:11:22,188 He purported himself to be a hitman for the mob. 218 00:11:22,190 --> 00:11:24,357 He was very boastful about his killings, 219 00:11:24,359 --> 00:11:26,726 And his ties to the mafia. 220 00:11:26,845 --> 00:11:29,078 It is new jersey, and we're certainly well-known, 221 00:11:29,106 --> 00:11:31,748 Especially back then, for our traditional organized crime. 222 00:11:31,775 --> 00:11:33,233 The typical la cosa nostra, 223 00:11:33,351 --> 00:11:35,810 Soprano-style organized crime cases: 224 00:11:35,928 --> 00:11:37,237 Loansharking, illegal gambling, 225 00:11:37,355 --> 00:11:40,824 Extortion, prostitution. 226 00:11:40,984 --> 00:11:43,459 Kuklinski got the nickname 'the iceman' 227 00:11:43,461 --> 00:11:46,246 Because he actually killed somebody, 228 00:11:46,364 --> 00:11:48,264 Put them in a freezer to try and change the body 229 00:11:48,291 --> 00:11:50,266 Temperature to fool the medical examiner. 230 00:11:50,293 --> 00:11:53,086 ♪ 231 00:11:53,204 --> 00:11:54,971 Well, he got caught eventually for it so, 232 00:11:54,973 --> 00:11:56,305 I don't know how much it worked, but... 233 00:11:56,307 --> 00:11:58,258 All these guys think they're so ----ing smart. 234 00:11:58,376 --> 00:12:00,443 ♪ 235 00:12:00,470 --> 00:12:02,095 I spent hundreds of hours with him. 236 00:12:02,213 --> 00:12:04,480 I'd have him transported up from the prison. 237 00:12:04,482 --> 00:12:06,825 He'd stay at the bergen county jail. 238 00:12:06,827 --> 00:12:08,184 Eventually, I developed a 239 00:12:08,344 --> 00:12:11,212 Relationship with him. Really good 240 00:12:11,273 --> 00:12:13,547 He began to trust me enough that I got a number of 241 00:12:13,549 --> 00:12:15,191 Unsolved homicides out of him. 242 00:12:15,351 --> 00:12:17,051 ♪ 243 00:12:17,112 --> 00:12:19,946 Rob built such a relationship with kuklinski that 244 00:12:20,064 --> 00:12:22,874 Kuklinski became rob's informant... 245 00:12:22,876 --> 00:12:27,119 On anything that kuklinski could come up with. 246 00:12:27,238 --> 00:12:30,473 I figured this might be a way to get to cottingham. 247 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:33,309 One particular interview, I bring up his name. 248 00:12:33,336 --> 00:12:35,144 And I'm like, "hey, do you know this guy, cottingham?" 249 00:12:35,172 --> 00:12:38,982 And kuklinski had the most, just vile reaction, 250 00:12:39,009 --> 00:12:42,302 And he just was like, "I hate that scumbag." 251 00:12:42,420 --> 00:12:44,012 And he's like, "what kind of an animal 252 00:12:44,130 --> 00:12:46,097 Does these things to women?" 253 00:12:55,892 --> 00:12:59,352 ♪ 254 00:12:59,470 --> 00:13:01,579 Richard kuklinski, known as 'the iceman', 255 00:13:01,581 --> 00:13:04,115 Was housed in new jersey state prison. 256 00:13:04,234 --> 00:13:07,418 The iceman is probably one of the most foreboding 257 00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:10,330 Individuals I've ever seen in my life. 258 00:13:10,448 --> 00:13:12,590 He was like 6"8, 259 00:13:12,592 --> 00:13:15,076 Just a huge human being. 260 00:13:15,194 --> 00:13:17,094 He had a hair-trigger temper. 261 00:13:17,096 --> 00:13:19,263 This is unwarranted. 262 00:13:19,265 --> 00:13:21,432 Unnecessary. 263 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:24,252 These guys watch too many movies. 264 00:13:24,370 --> 00:13:26,437 He could be a really scary dude. 265 00:13:26,439 --> 00:13:29,073 ♪ 266 00:13:29,075 --> 00:13:31,142 The strange twist to my relationship with the iceman 267 00:13:31,261 --> 00:13:34,153 Is that during our conversations... 268 00:13:34,155 --> 00:13:37,098 When I asked kuklinski about cottingham, 269 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:41,302 It became quickly evident that he despised cottingham. 270 00:13:41,363 --> 00:13:44,272 To kind of get this from this big, giant of a, 271 00:13:44,390 --> 00:13:45,973 Of a guy who kills people, 272 00:13:46,034 --> 00:13:48,827 And now he's got his own moral code 273 00:13:48,945 --> 00:13:51,128 Where he's disgusted by this other killer. 274 00:13:51,130 --> 00:13:54,207 So, he began to cooperate with me and kind of 275 00:13:54,325 --> 00:13:56,084 Give me some dirt on cottingham. 276 00:14:27,191 --> 00:14:28,983 Turns out- kuklinski explains to me- 277 00:14:29,101 --> 00:14:31,244 Cottingham ran an illegal gambling operation 278 00:14:31,362 --> 00:14:33,170 Within the prison. 279 00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:35,506 ♪ 280 00:14:35,508 --> 00:14:39,026 So, he used to run like, like football and baseball and 281 00:14:39,087 --> 00:14:41,345 All sorts of gambling through these tickets, right? 282 00:14:41,347 --> 00:14:44,348 Like, like an illegal lottery. 283 00:14:44,350 --> 00:14:47,001 And I decided that that would be my in. 284 00:14:47,119 --> 00:14:51,589 ♪ 285 00:14:51,707 --> 00:14:54,100 In early 2004, the super bowl 286 00:14:54,218 --> 00:14:57,528 That year was in houston, texas. 287 00:14:57,530 --> 00:14:59,414 I'd never been to a super bowl. 288 00:14:59,416 --> 00:15:01,274 ♪ 289 00:15:01,392 --> 00:15:03,384 I thought it'd be really cool if me and my dad 290 00:15:03,445 --> 00:15:06,370 Took the trip out there, and took in the game. 291 00:15:06,372 --> 00:15:08,981 I had amazing seats. 292 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:11,442 The only thing that detracted from my super bowl experience 293 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,212 Was the anxiousness and the anxiety... 294 00:15:15,214 --> 00:15:17,214 Wondering whether this plan that I had 295 00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:19,191 Was actually going to work. 296 00:15:19,210 --> 00:15:20,877 ♪ 297 00:15:21,037 --> 00:15:24,288 Having years of prior experience 298 00:15:24,407 --> 00:15:26,140 In the organized crime squad, 299 00:15:26,142 --> 00:15:27,383 Investigating illegal gambling, 300 00:15:27,543 --> 00:15:30,411 Doing undercover work, purporting to be a bookmaker, 301 00:15:30,472 --> 00:15:33,489 I understand there's no crazier gambling day 302 00:15:33,516 --> 00:15:35,399 Than super bowl Sunday. 303 00:15:35,401 --> 00:15:39,053 ♪ 304 00:15:39,171 --> 00:15:42,482 In the weeks that led up to that super bowl Sunday, 305 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,392 I made all the arrangements with 306 00:15:44,510 --> 00:15:46,152 The investigators at the prison, 307 00:15:46,270 --> 00:15:49,322 Gave them all the information they needed to... 308 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,433 Enact my plan... 309 00:15:52,494 --> 00:15:55,753 For cottingham's cell to be raided by prison officials 310 00:15:55,755 --> 00:16:00,424 The morning after super bowl Sunday. 311 00:16:00,426 --> 00:16:02,259 When they searched his cell, 312 00:16:02,261 --> 00:16:04,078 They found evidence of the gambling operation, 313 00:16:04,196 --> 00:16:08,174 And cottingham was thrown into the hole. 314 00:16:08,292 --> 00:16:10,251 In the prison system, 'the hole' was 315 00:16:10,369 --> 00:16:12,645 Basically solitary confinement. 316 00:16:12,647 --> 00:16:14,563 ♪ 317 00:16:14,565 --> 00:16:15,974 You were removed from your cell, 318 00:16:16,092 --> 00:16:17,517 All your privileges were revoked. 319 00:16:17,635 --> 00:16:19,777 You didn't go outside, you had no fresh air. 320 00:16:19,779 --> 00:16:21,821 There's no air conditioning. 321 00:16:21,823 --> 00:16:25,132 The new jersey prison at the time was old and, 322 00:16:25,251 --> 00:16:27,193 It was not fun. 323 00:16:27,311 --> 00:16:29,270 ♪ 324 00:16:29,388 --> 00:16:30,621 Several days later, 325 00:16:30,623 --> 00:16:33,457 I go down to the prison with my partner. 326 00:16:33,459 --> 00:16:36,536 ♪ 327 00:16:36,654 --> 00:16:38,112 They pull him out of the hole, 328 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:40,723 And bring him to an interview room. 329 00:16:40,750 --> 00:16:44,210 I see this nearly 60-year-old guy, 330 00:16:44,328 --> 00:16:48,381 Long white beard... Belly. 331 00:16:48,499 --> 00:16:52,493 Looking like a santa claus with a really bad hangover. 332 00:16:52,554 --> 00:16:54,403 You know, his eyes were bloodshot. 333 00:16:54,405 --> 00:16:57,223 He's dripping in sweat. 334 00:16:57,341 --> 00:16:59,133 And I just looked at him and told him, 335 00:16:59,251 --> 00:17:00,651 "I'm the reason you're in there." 336 00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:05,473 ♪ 337 00:17:05,591 --> 00:17:08,492 He looked at me with some pretty wild eyes. 338 00:17:08,494 --> 00:17:10,177 And I didn't even give him a chance to respond and was 339 00:17:10,238 --> 00:17:12,663 Just like, "I am going to make your life a living hell 340 00:17:12,665 --> 00:17:14,449 Unless we have a conversation." 341 00:17:33,786 --> 00:17:35,762 He, of course, did not confess to anything. 342 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,521 Didn't agree to anything. 343 00:17:37,523 --> 00:17:39,673 The only thing he would agree to is... 344 00:17:39,792 --> 00:17:42,435 That he would be willing to have continued 345 00:17:42,553 --> 00:17:45,104 Conversations with me on one condition. 346 00:17:45,223 --> 00:17:46,697 And that condition was, 347 00:17:46,699 --> 00:17:48,532 If I ever tried to mess with him again like this, 348 00:17:48,534 --> 00:17:50,367 Our relationship would be over. 349 00:17:50,369 --> 00:17:52,719 ♪ 350 00:17:52,781 --> 00:17:54,872 Thankfully, my gut intuition told me 351 00:17:54,874 --> 00:17:57,283 That he wasn't bluffing, 352 00:17:57,401 --> 00:17:59,693 And that the right move was to just try and 353 00:17:59,812 --> 00:18:04,548 Begin to schmooze him and begin to develop a trust. 354 00:18:04,550 --> 00:18:06,125 I needed to 355 00:18:06,244 --> 00:18:08,385 Take a different tact than that initial approach. 356 00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:10,721 That the tough guy routine wasn't going to work with him. 357 00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:15,392 ♪ 358 00:18:15,394 --> 00:18:20,297 ♪ 359 00:18:20,416 --> 00:18:24,485 I started with richard cottingham in early 2004. 360 00:18:24,487 --> 00:18:26,813 I had no idea what cases he might be responsible for. 361 00:18:26,931 --> 00:18:29,148 It was just a feeling that maybe he was 362 00:18:29,267 --> 00:18:31,408 Responsible for some of them. 363 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:34,261 ♪ 364 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,657 I was visiting him at the prison. 365 00:18:37,775 --> 00:18:40,843 I just told him, "hey, I think you committed crimes 366 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:42,703 Long before you were arrested." 367 00:19:13,311 --> 00:19:15,194 I spent a lot of time with him to try and build a 368 00:19:15,313 --> 00:19:17,572 Relationship, but he refused to talk about anything new. 369 00:19:37,743 --> 00:19:41,478 Anzilotti understood he was in it for the long game. 370 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,316 And that means he's going to spend a lot of time and 371 00:19:45,318 --> 00:19:49,228 Come away with nothing, time after time after time. 372 00:19:49,347 --> 00:19:52,823 But, if he played it right and he stayed vigilant 373 00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:55,492 For the weak spots, 374 00:19:55,494 --> 00:19:57,236 The openings... 375 00:19:57,355 --> 00:19:59,830 He would be able to get information. 376 00:19:59,832 --> 00:20:02,333 ♪ 377 00:20:02,335 --> 00:20:04,619 And it's difficult to... 378 00:20:04,737 --> 00:20:06,579 Spend hours with someone and feel like 379 00:20:06,697 --> 00:20:08,339 You're not accomplishing anything. 380 00:20:08,341 --> 00:20:12,326 But like water dropping on a rock, okay... 381 00:20:12,444 --> 00:20:15,588 Eventually the rock begins to smooth out and change. 382 00:20:15,706 --> 00:20:18,758 You're going to crack it. 383 00:20:18,876 --> 00:20:22,503 Rob was persistent, he never gave up. 384 00:20:22,621 --> 00:20:24,871 Rob anzilotti was handpicked because of 385 00:20:24,933 --> 00:20:29,143 Who rob anzilotti was. He was just a great cop. 386 00:20:29,528 --> 00:20:33,880 ♪ 387 00:20:33,942 --> 00:20:36,383 I did not always want to be a cop. 388 00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:40,921 I was kind of a, you know, confused, mixed up teenager. 389 00:20:40,923 --> 00:20:43,707 I didn't know what the hell I wanted to do. 390 00:20:43,709 --> 00:20:45,693 My mom was a nurse. 391 00:20:45,811 --> 00:20:48,895 I always kind of just had a thing about helping people. 392 00:20:48,915 --> 00:20:51,882 So, I became a paramedic. 393 00:20:51,884 --> 00:20:53,534 Worked in newark for a while. 394 00:20:53,652 --> 00:20:55,962 It was during the crack epidemic, very violent city. 395 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,905 Saw a lot of, lot of crazy stuff. 396 00:20:58,967 --> 00:21:00,724 That's what brought me to law enforcement, 397 00:21:00,726 --> 00:21:02,876 Just seeing how hard the cops worked and 398 00:21:03,037 --> 00:21:04,461 What they had to deal with. 399 00:21:04,580 --> 00:21:06,880 I loved it from the minute I put the uniform on. 400 00:21:06,999 --> 00:21:09,033 ♪ 401 00:21:09,035 --> 00:21:11,802 That same passion that I felt when I first put the uniform 402 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,388 On was only amplified and magnified 403 00:21:14,506 --> 00:21:16,665 When I became a detective. 404 00:21:16,693 --> 00:21:18,000 In 2004, I was a sergeant in the 405 00:21:18,027 --> 00:21:20,394 Special investigations squad. 406 00:21:20,512 --> 00:21:22,746 The new chief formed that squad and hand-picked 407 00:21:22,748 --> 00:21:24,915 The people that go into it. 408 00:21:24,917 --> 00:21:27,084 I was given a lot of leeway to do... 409 00:21:27,086 --> 00:21:29,086 Whatever I felt, without anyone 410 00:21:29,088 --> 00:21:31,755 Interrupting me dealing with cottingham. 411 00:21:31,757 --> 00:21:33,974 ♪ 412 00:21:33,976 --> 00:21:35,901 Once I was talking to richard cottingham 413 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,928 For those early months, 414 00:21:37,930 --> 00:21:40,689 He would give me absolutely nothing. 415 00:21:40,717 --> 00:21:42,766 It was worse than pulling teeth, 416 00:21:42,768 --> 00:21:45,753 It was like just hitting a brick wall all the time. 417 00:21:45,913 --> 00:21:47,571 There was no way for me to let it go, 418 00:21:47,573 --> 00:21:49,790 Because at some point, to let it go 419 00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:51,534 Would be a complete failure, 420 00:21:51,561 --> 00:21:53,627 And I couldn't accept failure. 421 00:21:53,688 --> 00:21:56,914 I really saw these baby steps as an opportunity to get 422 00:21:56,916 --> 00:22:00,559 Where I needed to go with these 12 cold cases. 423 00:22:00,677 --> 00:22:02,786 The best way to get there was 424 00:22:02,788 --> 00:22:04,530 To just get him talking all the time, 425 00:22:04,648 --> 00:22:07,533 And he grew comfortable talking about crimes 426 00:22:07,651 --> 00:22:09,793 That the world knew he committed already, 427 00:22:09,795 --> 00:22:13,831 Crimes he went to trial on, crimes he was convicted of. 428 00:22:13,949 --> 00:22:17,893 Prior to his arrest, he went on this murderous... 429 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,121 Frenzy, in just a handful of weeks, 430 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,049 When he was hunting prostitutes. 431 00:22:44,847 --> 00:22:50,851 ♪ 432 00:22:50,912 --> 00:22:53,670 I was on routine patrol that morning. 433 00:22:53,672 --> 00:22:55,055 ♪ 434 00:22:55,057 --> 00:22:58,675 And then, that first call on the radio came through. 435 00:22:58,677 --> 00:23:00,753 ♪ 436 00:23:00,871 --> 00:23:03,589 "go down to the quality inn. 437 00:23:03,707 --> 00:23:06,016 There's a report of a woman screaming in a room." 438 00:23:06,018 --> 00:23:08,185 ♪ 439 00:23:08,187 --> 00:23:11,063 As I pulled into the motel parking lot, 440 00:23:11,065 --> 00:23:14,191 There was a man waving frantically. 441 00:23:14,193 --> 00:23:17,027 He says, "there's a man with a gun." 442 00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:20,606 ♪ [suspenseful] ♪ 443 00:23:25,563 --> 00:23:28,054 We received a radio message 444 00:23:28,074 --> 00:23:32,118 About a woman screaming at the quality motel... 445 00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:35,045 In hasbrouck heights, on route 17. 446 00:23:35,047 --> 00:23:37,664 ♪ 447 00:23:37,783 --> 00:23:39,959 When I came into the small lobby, 448 00:23:40,077 --> 00:23:42,645 Down the hallway from around the corner, 449 00:23:42,672 --> 00:23:45,873 I saw a man running towards me. 450 00:23:45,991 --> 00:23:48,817 He was carrying a satchel, 451 00:23:48,845 --> 00:23:50,911 And he had a gun. 452 00:23:50,972 --> 00:23:52,972 As he rounded the corner... 453 00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:56,008 I yelled, "stop, don't move!" 454 00:23:56,126 --> 00:24:00,479 He stopped approximately one inch from the barrel. 455 00:24:00,598 --> 00:24:03,056 Had he moved his right hand, 456 00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:04,733 I would have pulled the trigger. 457 00:24:04,894 --> 00:24:07,052 There was no ifs, ands, or buts. 458 00:24:07,071 --> 00:24:10,489 He dropped all his parcels on the ground. 459 00:24:10,608 --> 00:24:13,099 He says, "I didn't do anything. 460 00:24:13,161 --> 00:24:16,587 I was with a hooker and got scared." 461 00:24:16,589 --> 00:24:18,755 His name was richard cottingham. 462 00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:22,743 ♪ 463 00:24:22,861 --> 00:24:26,004 Inside the room, they found a young female 464 00:24:26,006 --> 00:24:30,100 Identified as leslie o'dell. 465 00:24:30,102 --> 00:24:34,013 Leslie o'dell was naked. 466 00:24:34,131 --> 00:24:38,124 She had handcuffs on her ankles. 467 00:24:38,186 --> 00:24:40,928 She recounted a story about 468 00:24:41,046 --> 00:24:43,764 How she had met a male in new york, 469 00:24:43,882 --> 00:24:47,968 And he had taken her to the motel. 470 00:24:48,029 --> 00:24:50,971 Leslie o'dell was working as a streetwalker 471 00:24:51,032 --> 00:24:52,956 In new york city. 472 00:24:52,958 --> 00:24:55,868 Cottingham was able to convince her to come with him 473 00:24:55,986 --> 00:24:57,861 Under the promise that he would give her money so 474 00:24:57,980 --> 00:25:01,682 She could get out of the prostitution business. 475 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,300 So, she got into the car with cottingham, 476 00:25:03,302 --> 00:25:05,336 They went to new jersey. 477 00:25:05,654 --> 00:25:07,621 ♪ 478 00:25:07,739 --> 00:25:12,125 Next thing you know, they end up in the quality inn motel. 479 00:25:12,244 --> 00:25:14,978 What started out as a simple sexual encounter 480 00:25:14,980 --> 00:25:18,632 Suddenly escalated with bondage and torture. 481 00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:21,134 ♪ 482 00:25:21,253 --> 00:25:23,637 He was just beginning. 483 00:25:23,755 --> 00:25:26,156 ♪ 484 00:25:26,158 --> 00:25:29,893 He handcuffed her on her ankles because 485 00:25:29,895 --> 00:25:32,980 He was afraid she was going to escape. 486 00:25:33,098 --> 00:25:35,741 She had adhesive tape on her mouth. 487 00:25:35,859 --> 00:25:38,335 ♪ 488 00:25:38,337 --> 00:25:41,838 He cut her in the area of her breasts, 489 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,083 Burned her with a cigarette... 490 00:25:44,201 --> 00:25:47,086 Sodomized her. 491 00:25:47,204 --> 00:25:50,589 At some point, he decides he wants a tongue bath, 492 00:25:50,708 --> 00:25:53,759 Which means he wants her to lick him all over his body. 493 00:25:53,877 --> 00:25:55,168 But in order to do that, 494 00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:58,264 He has to take the tape off her mouth. 495 00:25:58,382 --> 00:26:01,858 She saw an opportunity, she lets out a scream. 496 00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:07,030 ♪ 497 00:26:07,032 --> 00:26:09,032 [knocking] 498 00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:10,867 Richard cottingham is standing behind 499 00:26:10,869 --> 00:26:12,945 Leslie o'dell with a knife to her back: 500 00:26:13,063 --> 00:26:16,873 "tell her everything's okay." 501 00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:20,619 "is everything okay?" "yes." 502 00:26:20,738 --> 00:26:23,196 At this point, he realizes the jig is up. 503 00:26:23,315 --> 00:26:25,882 ♪ 504 00:26:25,884 --> 00:26:28,719 Everything begins to collapse. 505 00:26:28,721 --> 00:26:30,796 Richard cottingham's going to be under arrest. 506 00:26:30,914 --> 00:26:33,816 ♪ 507 00:26:33,843 --> 00:26:35,759 And now they have a living witness. 508 00:26:35,878 --> 00:26:40,872 ♪ 509 00:26:40,891 --> 00:26:43,800 After leslie ann o'dell is rescued by the police, 510 00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:45,969 They find a number of things. 511 00:26:45,971 --> 00:26:47,904 They find a bottle of whiskey. 512 00:26:47,906 --> 00:26:50,240 And he was known to be a big drinker. 513 00:26:50,242 --> 00:26:52,693 And encouraged his victims to drink. 514 00:26:52,811 --> 00:26:55,829 He would use drugs to drug his victims, 515 00:26:55,831 --> 00:26:57,898 Barbiturates and other downers, so to speak, 516 00:26:58,016 --> 00:27:00,817 To kind of relax them, and then get them to pass out. 517 00:27:00,936 --> 00:27:02,903 You know, clearly, this is a mouth gag. 518 00:27:03,021 --> 00:27:05,164 Put it in, he would put it in somebody's mouth, 519 00:27:05,282 --> 00:27:07,407 Tie the collar around. 520 00:27:07,409 --> 00:27:09,910 And, that would be a way to keep them silent. 521 00:27:10,028 --> 00:27:11,795 These chokers that I assume he would put on 522 00:27:11,914 --> 00:27:13,113 His victim's neck. 523 00:27:13,232 --> 00:27:14,915 So, these two pair of handcuffs. 524 00:27:15,075 --> 00:27:17,158 I have two daughters and, and for me, 525 00:27:17,219 --> 00:27:20,012 It comes to like I just couldn't fathom, you know, 526 00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:22,848 Having one of my loved ones, one of my daughters... 527 00:27:22,966 --> 00:27:24,850 Be brutally attacked like this by an animal. 528 00:27:24,968 --> 00:27:26,259 He's got kids. 529 00:27:26,378 --> 00:27:29,963 He's got a girl, he has a wife that he didn't abuse, 530 00:27:30,024 --> 00:27:31,190 As far as I know. 531 00:27:31,308 --> 00:27:33,692 And yet, look at what he's doing to total strangers. 532 00:27:33,811 --> 00:27:35,327 I think he thought he was untouchable. 533 00:27:35,329 --> 00:27:39,698 ♪ 534 00:27:39,817 --> 00:27:41,200 Having looked at the crime scene photos 535 00:27:41,318 --> 00:27:42,959 Of leslie ann o'dell, 536 00:27:42,961 --> 00:27:45,462 There were some similarities to some of the unsolved 537 00:27:45,464 --> 00:27:48,131 Cold cases that I had been looking at. 538 00:27:48,133 --> 00:27:51,368 Some of the victims of these cold cases had ligature marks 539 00:27:51,486 --> 00:27:53,704 On their ankles, on their wrists. 540 00:27:53,822 --> 00:27:56,990 Some were found tied up. 541 00:27:57,051 --> 00:27:59,401 By letting him just talk and ramble, 542 00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:02,979 I'm learning what makes him tick... 543 00:28:02,981 --> 00:28:04,815 And that was really, really important 544 00:28:04,817 --> 00:28:07,150 In those early years. 545 00:28:07,152 --> 00:28:08,744 He would talk in general terms about 546 00:28:08,771 --> 00:28:10,470 What he would call 'hunting'. 547 00:28:10,589 --> 00:28:12,489 So, I began to learn about, like, 548 00:28:12,491 --> 00:28:14,108 Some of his killing methods. 549 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,869 Does this guy have a beef with women? 550 00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:45,505 Is there something in his past that led him 551 00:28:45,624 --> 00:28:47,933 To become this killer that he is? 552 00:28:48,051 --> 00:28:50,026 I really had no idea. 553 00:28:50,028 --> 00:28:51,995 ♪ 554 00:28:52,114 --> 00:28:56,074 Richard cottingham was a young family man. 555 00:28:56,076 --> 00:28:59,928 He lived in lodi, new jersey. 556 00:28:59,989 --> 00:29:02,388 A wife, three children... 557 00:29:02,550 --> 00:29:06,118 Had a good job in the computer division of 558 00:29:06,236 --> 00:29:09,821 Blue cross blue shield in new york. 559 00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:14,384 He was a smart individual, but very manipulative. 560 00:29:14,386 --> 00:29:16,386 ♪ 561 00:29:16,388 --> 00:29:19,389 His parents were decent people. 562 00:29:19,391 --> 00:29:22,300 He didn't come from a bad home. 563 00:29:22,302 --> 00:29:25,295 He comes from a catholic background. 564 00:29:25,413 --> 00:29:26,472 He's always told me that 565 00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:28,182 He's not your typical serial killer. 566 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,107 Richard cottingham oversimplifies 567 00:30:11,109 --> 00:30:13,535 What it means to be a serial killer. 568 00:30:13,562 --> 00:30:17,280 And he seems to think that they all enjoy killing, 569 00:30:17,282 --> 00:30:18,265 And that isn't true. 570 00:30:18,383 --> 00:30:21,117 Only some of them enjoy killing. 571 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:25,138 Many of them do exactly what he did- or said he did- 572 00:30:25,199 --> 00:30:29,192 Which is to torture someone, and then 573 00:30:29,311 --> 00:30:31,461 Remove the witness... 574 00:30:31,463 --> 00:30:34,222 And that is a lot of serial killers. 575 00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:36,041 He fits that. 576 00:31:06,282 --> 00:31:08,665 Because of the way that 577 00:31:08,667 --> 00:31:13,245 Leslie o'dell was abused... 578 00:31:13,363 --> 00:31:17,099 Made us suspect immediately 579 00:31:17,126 --> 00:31:19,267 That there was a connection to 580 00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:22,270 A number of unsolved homicides 581 00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:25,332 That occurred at the same motel. 582 00:31:25,450 --> 00:31:30,520 ♪ 583 00:31:30,522 --> 00:31:37,193 ♪ 584 00:31:37,195 --> 00:31:41,448 A maid cleaning room 132, while she's vacuuming, 585 00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:44,550 Bumps into something under the bed. 586 00:31:44,612 --> 00:31:47,203 She looks under the bed, she lets out a scream. 587 00:31:47,205 --> 00:31:50,157 ♪ 588 00:31:59,242 --> 00:32:01,368 On may 22nd, 1980, 589 00:32:01,486 --> 00:32:04,963 Cottingham is caught at the quality inn in 590 00:32:05,082 --> 00:32:07,966 Hasbrouck heights as he tries to flee the scene... 591 00:32:08,085 --> 00:32:13,229 After attempting to kill leslie o'dell. 592 00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:15,382 Staff had been totally on high alert, 593 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:18,977 As had the local police, because just weeks earlier... 594 00:32:19,096 --> 00:32:22,389 Another dead body was found stuffed under a bed 595 00:32:22,507 --> 00:32:25,442 In that same quality inn motel. 596 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,703 What the investigators find is 19-year-old, 597 00:32:28,705 --> 00:32:31,122 Valerie street... 598 00:32:31,124 --> 00:32:33,033 A known prostitute who had just recently been arrested 599 00:32:33,151 --> 00:32:35,068 For prostitution offenses. 600 00:32:35,186 --> 00:32:38,029 ♪ 601 00:32:38,148 --> 00:32:41,399 Valerie ann street was naked. 602 00:32:41,418 --> 00:32:43,343 She had what appeared to be 603 00:32:43,345 --> 00:32:47,673 Adhesive residue around her mouth. 604 00:32:47,791 --> 00:32:52,010 She had handcuffs on her wrists. 605 00:32:52,129 --> 00:32:55,772 There was a latent fingerprint that was lifted 606 00:32:55,774 --> 00:32:57,307 From the handcuffs, 607 00:32:57,426 --> 00:33:01,578 And that print was retained. 608 00:33:01,580 --> 00:33:04,514 Richard explained to me that he graduated- 609 00:33:04,632 --> 00:33:05,832 So to speak- 610 00:33:05,834 --> 00:33:11,104 To really focusing on raping and murdering prostitutes 611 00:33:11,222 --> 00:33:14,140 Because he felt that they were 612 00:33:14,201 --> 00:33:18,628 Less accountable in society. 613 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:21,206 He has a story where, 614 00:33:21,324 --> 00:33:24,284 "women would do anything I wanted." 615 00:33:24,402 --> 00:33:26,211 Which just tells you 616 00:33:26,329 --> 00:33:30,623 He would only go for women that would yield to him- 617 00:33:30,742 --> 00:33:33,643 For money or because they were young and scared and 618 00:33:33,645 --> 00:33:35,645 Didn't know what else to do. 619 00:33:35,647 --> 00:33:37,447 ♪ 620 00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:41,217 Because of the similarities amongst those cases, 621 00:33:41,336 --> 00:33:44,529 We weren't just interested in what occurred with 622 00:33:44,531 --> 00:33:48,308 O'dell, we were interested in other things. 623 00:33:48,426 --> 00:33:53,163 Almost three years before valerie ann street's murder, 624 00:33:53,165 --> 00:33:56,950 Another homicide had occurred at the quality inn. 625 00:33:57,235 --> 00:34:02,338 ♪ 626 00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:05,475 Maryann carr was a young, attractive 627 00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:09,345 X-ray technician... 628 00:34:09,347 --> 00:34:13,291 Who lived with her husband in an apartment 629 00:34:13,409 --> 00:34:16,336 At ledgewood terrace in little ferry. 630 00:34:16,338 --> 00:34:20,690 Her husband had been away on a business trip. 631 00:34:20,692 --> 00:34:22,692 When he attempted to get a hold of her, 632 00:34:22,694 --> 00:34:24,544 He wasn't able to. 633 00:34:24,605 --> 00:34:27,180 And after several tries he became concerned. 634 00:34:27,298 --> 00:34:31,626 ♪ 635 00:34:31,653 --> 00:34:35,113 The next morning, I was notified 636 00:34:35,232 --> 00:34:39,709 That a body had been found in the parking area 637 00:34:39,711 --> 00:34:42,996 Of the quality inn motel in hasbrouck heights. 638 00:34:43,314 --> 00:34:50,253 ♪ 639 00:34:50,372 --> 00:34:54,758 Maryann was lying near the parking area, 640 00:34:54,876 --> 00:34:58,703 Next to a chain link fence. 641 00:34:58,705 --> 00:35:02,549 She's wearing her white x-ray tech uniform. 642 00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:05,585 She is lying and kind of curled up, 643 00:35:05,746 --> 00:35:07,737 Where she obviously had been dumped. 644 00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:10,348 ♪ 645 00:35:10,466 --> 00:35:14,236 There are ligature marks on her hands and her feet. 646 00:35:14,396 --> 00:35:16,788 There are tears in her uniform. 647 00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:18,565 Somebody had sexually assaulted her and then 648 00:35:18,683 --> 00:35:20,342 Redressed her. 649 00:35:20,369 --> 00:35:22,752 She had been strangled. 650 00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:24,830 ♪ 651 00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:30,927 You know, of my 12 cold cases involving these young women, 652 00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:32,495 The overwhelming majority of them were 653 00:35:32,614 --> 00:35:35,598 Either strangled or suffocated. 654 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,137 ♪ 655 00:35:40,255 --> 00:35:44,182 It was a mystery. 656 00:35:44,301 --> 00:35:47,927 And there was no connection whatsoever between 657 00:35:48,046 --> 00:35:50,763 Maryann carr and valerie street... 658 00:35:50,882 --> 00:35:54,225 ♪ 659 00:35:54,344 --> 00:35:56,953 Until they caught richard cottingham 660 00:35:56,955 --> 00:35:59,622 Running from the building. 661 00:35:59,624 --> 00:36:01,533 ♪ 662 00:36:01,651 --> 00:36:05,887 We compared cottingham's fingerprint to 663 00:36:05,914 --> 00:36:08,239 The latent fingerprint on 664 00:36:08,358 --> 00:36:10,767 Valerie ann street's handcuffs. 665 00:36:10,885 --> 00:36:13,703 ♪ 666 00:36:13,821 --> 00:36:16,590 And it was a homerun. 667 00:36:16,708 --> 00:36:18,550 We knew we had the right guy. 668 00:36:42,433 --> 00:36:45,835 He would not admit his guilt in any of it. 669 00:36:45,837 --> 00:36:48,371 It was like a game of cat and mouse between the two of us. 670 00:37:26,736 --> 00:37:28,561 You can't feed anything to them and 671 00:37:28,622 --> 00:37:30,805 Put thoughts in their head. 672 00:37:30,832 --> 00:37:33,566 And that's also part of what this whole 673 00:37:33,627 --> 00:37:35,868 Kind of grind is with him because, you know, 674 00:37:35,987 --> 00:37:37,887 He had no fear in talking about the things 675 00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:39,389 He was already convicted of, 676 00:37:39,391 --> 00:37:41,724 But he refused to talk about anything new. 677 00:37:41,726 --> 00:37:42,908 ♪ 678 00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:45,303 He's not just willing to just sit there and say to me, 679 00:37:45,422 --> 00:37:48,414 "in 1969, I remember killing this 15-year-old." 680 00:37:48,475 --> 00:37:50,566 It's not like that with him. 681 00:37:50,568 --> 00:37:51,734 You kind of have to just get 682 00:37:51,736 --> 00:37:55,888 These little bits and pieces and put it together. 683 00:37:56,007 --> 00:37:59,909 You're getting something, but you don't want the guy 684 00:37:59,911 --> 00:38:01,653 To know you're getting something, 685 00:38:01,771 --> 00:38:03,913 Because he's trying to control that 686 00:38:03,915 --> 00:38:05,490 Piece of information. 687 00:38:05,608 --> 00:38:07,826 And you have to be very cool about it... 688 00:38:07,944 --> 00:38:09,828 Because he could shut it down and say, 689 00:38:09,946 --> 00:38:11,738 "that's it, no more talking." 690 00:38:11,856 --> 00:38:16,926 'cause he realizes he just lost leverage. 691 00:38:16,928 --> 00:38:19,762 That's not okay for someone who needs control. 692 00:38:19,764 --> 00:38:25,844 ♪ 693 00:38:25,962 --> 00:38:29,906 We executed a search warrant at his house... 694 00:38:30,024 --> 00:38:33,351 And on his vehicles. 695 00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:37,580 He had a locked room in the basement. 696 00:38:37,582 --> 00:38:40,116 His wife, janet, was asked about that, 697 00:38:40,118 --> 00:38:42,635 And she said, "yes, that is his room. 698 00:38:42,696 --> 00:38:45,438 I know nothing about it. He keeps it locked, 699 00:38:45,556 --> 00:38:47,807 And I'm not allowed in there." 700 00:38:47,868 --> 00:38:51,627 She was in the process of filing for divorce from him. 701 00:38:51,629 --> 00:38:53,538 They had trouble in the marriage. 702 00:39:10,006 --> 00:39:12,982 His wife had said she was going to leave him and 703 00:39:12,984 --> 00:39:15,393 Take his three kids with her. 704 00:39:15,512 --> 00:39:20,607 He blames that for the reason why he got, "sloppy". 705 00:39:48,044 --> 00:39:50,186 He doesn't want a divorce, necessarily, 706 00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:54,690 But that he cannot let her be the one in charge of that... 707 00:39:54,692 --> 00:39:58,194 And she was, she's the one who made the first move. 708 00:39:58,196 --> 00:40:00,763 Someone who is a narcissist like he is, 709 00:40:00,882 --> 00:40:03,650 His children are extensions of himself. 710 00:40:03,768 --> 00:40:05,759 There's an ownership thing there. 711 00:40:05,821 --> 00:40:08,554 She will not take them. 712 00:40:08,615 --> 00:40:11,874 She will not take the stability of his life. 713 00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:16,863 ♪ 714 00:40:16,981 --> 00:40:21,292 Inside that locked room were a number of items: 715 00:40:21,294 --> 00:40:27,031 Money, some pornography magazines, 716 00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:29,141 Women's jewellery, 717 00:40:29,143 --> 00:40:31,970 Some articles of women's clothing. 718 00:40:32,088 --> 00:40:34,714 ♪ 719 00:40:34,832 --> 00:40:37,475 These were all books that were found in cottingham's 720 00:40:37,594 --> 00:40:40,812 Residence when the detectives searched his house. 721 00:40:40,930 --> 00:40:45,708 So, like, "sex victims: Stories of surrender". 722 00:40:45,827 --> 00:40:47,092 There's, "the prisoner of the sheik," 723 00:40:47,254 --> 00:40:50,155 And a woman tied up on the cover. 724 00:40:50,273 --> 00:40:52,866 "tied up teasers," with two women tied to a bed. 725 00:40:55,686 --> 00:40:56,769 "the boyfriend's revenge". 726 00:40:56,830 --> 00:40:59,164 Two men who look like they're about to rape a woman. 727 00:40:59,282 --> 00:41:01,040 So, finding these books, I'm sure the detectives 728 00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:02,742 When they found them were like, 729 00:41:02,860 --> 00:41:05,745 "wow, we just found gold here." 730 00:41:05,863 --> 00:41:09,098 Once bergen county connected those cases... 731 00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:10,766 They're going to find out that 732 00:41:10,768 --> 00:41:13,603 It was much bigger than they thought it was. 733 00:41:13,605 --> 00:41:15,621 Firemen were the first to arrive at the scene 734 00:41:15,682 --> 00:41:17,590 At about 9:30 this morning. 735 00:41:17,708 --> 00:41:19,534 They were responding to a report of a fire in 736 00:41:19,561 --> 00:41:22,111 A west side hotel room. 737 00:41:22,113 --> 00:41:25,181 They find two young, nude bodies 738 00:41:25,299 --> 00:41:27,692 With no heads and hands. 739 00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:30,069 It was something out of a horror movie. 740 00:41:37,621 --> 00:41:45,968 ♪ 741 00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:47,962 The new york city fire department was called to the 742 00:41:48,122 --> 00:41:51,065 Travel inn hotel on west 42nd street 743 00:41:51,225 --> 00:41:52,800 On a report of a fire. 744 00:41:52,961 --> 00:41:56,237 ♪ 745 00:41:56,264 --> 00:41:58,648 They went into the room, they dragged the 746 00:41:58,650 --> 00:42:00,908 Body of a nude female from the room. 747 00:42:00,936 --> 00:42:03,653 ♪ 748 00:42:03,655 --> 00:42:05,638 Pulled it into the hallway, was about to give 749 00:42:05,798 --> 00:42:08,750 Mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, but there was no head. 750 00:42:08,777 --> 00:42:13,220 ♪ [suspenseful] ♪ 751 00:42:13,281 --> 00:42:15,273 And in an effort to cover up that homicide, 752 00:42:15,391 --> 00:42:18,609 Their heads and hands had been removed and severed and 753 00:42:18,728 --> 00:42:19,761 Taken from the scene. 754 00:42:19,788 --> 00:42:21,763 To this day, they've never been found. 755 00:42:21,790 --> 00:42:24,082 ♪ 756 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,669 There were marks on their legs, arm, back, buttocks, 757 00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:30,121 Incised marks, but also puncture marks. 758 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,890 ♪ 759 00:42:32,892 --> 00:42:35,777 You're dealing with a psychopathic sexual sadist. 760 00:42:35,804 --> 00:42:38,354 This was pure evil. 761 00:42:38,356 --> 00:42:40,981 [news] today police search for clues into the death of 762 00:42:40,983 --> 00:42:42,950 The young women, both white and about 763 00:42:43,111 --> 00:42:44,902 19 to 20 years old. 764 00:42:44,904 --> 00:42:47,363 A spokesman said the cuts were very clean. 765 00:42:47,365 --> 00:42:49,715 Probably inflicted with a butcher's tool, 766 00:42:49,776 --> 00:42:52,110 A surgical instrument, or sword. 767 00:42:52,228 --> 00:42:56,297 ♪ 768 00:42:56,324 --> 00:43:00,601 These two women had been held in that room for three days: 769 00:43:00,662 --> 00:43:02,704 November 29th to December 2nd. 770 00:43:36,931 --> 00:43:40,825 ♪ 771 00:43:40,943 --> 00:43:42,827 In an effort to identify the victims 772 00:43:42,945 --> 00:43:45,012 From the travel inn hotel, 773 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,849 They came up with the creative idea of actually 774 00:43:47,876 --> 00:43:52,261 Putting the victims' clothes on a mannequin... 775 00:43:52,263 --> 00:43:58,267 And then putting a picture of that in the newspaper. 776 00:43:58,269 --> 00:44:00,762 The news was all over the place. 777 00:44:00,922 --> 00:44:02,930 ♪ 778 00:44:03,091 --> 00:44:05,516 He was called the 'torso killer'. 779 00:44:05,802 --> 00:44:09,987 ♪ 780 00:44:09,989 --> 00:44:12,782 After two months, someone from new jersey 781 00:44:12,784 --> 00:44:15,117 Recognized the clothing of one person 782 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,845 From the midtown torso case. 783 00:44:17,906 --> 00:44:21,090 ♪ 784 00:44:21,092 --> 00:44:23,384 That resulted in the positive identification 785 00:44:23,411 --> 00:44:26,053 Of deedeh goodarzi. 786 00:44:26,081 --> 00:44:28,055 She was a prostitute. 787 00:44:28,083 --> 00:44:29,773 ♪ 788 00:44:29,793 --> 00:44:31,709 [news] miss goodarzi was born in kuwait and 789 00:44:31,828 --> 00:44:33,986 Came to the us when she was 14. 790 00:44:34,047 --> 00:44:36,138 Her family lives in trenton, nj. 791 00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:38,140 Police are still looking for information about the 792 00:44:38,142 --> 00:44:40,902 Other victim, last seen wearing these clothes. 793 00:44:40,929 --> 00:44:43,237 ♪ 794 00:44:43,264 --> 00:44:45,715 Unfortunately, the second victim- to this day- 795 00:44:45,833 --> 00:44:47,074 Remains a jane doe. 796 00:44:47,102 --> 00:44:48,801 The investigators, despite their best efforts, 797 00:44:48,919 --> 00:44:51,078 Have never been able to identify her. 798 00:44:51,106 --> 00:44:52,713 ♪ 799 00:44:52,774 --> 00:44:55,141 Four months later, the body of yet another prostitute is 800 00:44:55,259 --> 00:44:59,011 Found murdered at the hotel seville in times square. 801 00:44:59,072 --> 00:45:03,131 When the body was recovered, there were no clothes. 802 00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:04,817 He had taken the clothes. 803 00:45:04,935 --> 00:45:08,079 [sirens continue] 804 00:45:13,177 --> 00:45:15,436 Firefighters were called to the hotel seville, 805 00:45:15,463 --> 00:45:18,889 Which is at 29th street and madison avenue. 806 00:45:19,008 --> 00:45:22,184 Once again, a hotel room was on fire. 807 00:45:22,186 --> 00:45:26,280 Inside the hotel room was a nude body of a victim. 808 00:45:26,307 --> 00:45:29,917 ♪ 809 00:45:29,978 --> 00:45:31,844 The body had been burned 810 00:45:32,004 --> 00:45:35,089 With the same type of torture marks 811 00:45:35,091 --> 00:45:38,292 That were on the girls at the midtown torso case. 812 00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:41,838 ♪ 813 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,299 And this time, the offender had defeminized the victim, 814 00:45:45,326 --> 00:45:47,969 Removing both of her breasts. 815 00:45:47,996 --> 00:45:50,137 And that was pretty shocking because the breasts 816 00:45:50,165 --> 00:45:51,973 Were then put on the headboard, 817 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,308 Presented by the offender to the authorities. 818 00:45:54,335 --> 00:45:58,104 ♪ 819 00:45:58,131 --> 00:46:00,314 That was a hotel room from hell. 820 00:46:00,341 --> 00:46:02,341 Only satan could tell you what went on in there. 821 00:46:22,572 --> 00:46:24,096 The victim at the hotel seville 822 00:46:24,157 --> 00:46:25,740 Was another prostitute. 823 00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:28,009 She was identified as jean ann reyner. 824 00:46:28,036 --> 00:46:32,755 ♪ 825 00:46:32,757 --> 00:46:35,090 As I researched the cases that cottingham had been 826 00:46:35,092 --> 00:46:38,352 Convicted of, they were all so brutal in nature. 827 00:46:38,379 --> 00:46:41,188 Decapitation, defeminizing. 828 00:46:41,216 --> 00:46:45,100 And, those were very different than 829 00:46:45,102 --> 00:46:47,028 The 12 cold cases of these young women in 830 00:46:47,055 --> 00:46:49,847 Bergen county that I was investigating. 831 00:46:49,966 --> 00:46:51,423 So, at times I questioned: 832 00:46:51,542 --> 00:46:53,409 Am I wasting my time with cottingham? 833 00:46:53,411 --> 00:46:56,070 Is he even responsible for any of these? 834 00:46:56,072 --> 00:46:58,463 But, as the interviews went on and on 835 00:46:58,483 --> 00:47:00,041 Over the months and years, 836 00:47:00,068 --> 00:47:02,376 Cottingham would constantly explain to me that 837 00:47:02,403 --> 00:47:04,862 He always changed up his mo. 838 00:47:04,981 --> 00:47:07,048 So, he didn't want the police to think 839 00:47:07,075 --> 00:47:09,075 Any of these killings were related. 840 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,556 It didn't take the new york authorities less than a 841 00:47:15,583 --> 00:47:18,117 New york minute to connect these cases. 842 00:47:18,235 --> 00:47:19,560 And that's when new york communicated 843 00:47:19,587 --> 00:47:21,921 With bergen county. 844 00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:24,489 A new york detective saw the paper, and said, 845 00:47:24,509 --> 00:47:28,569 "listen, this might be our case." 846 00:47:28,596 --> 00:47:31,997 The new york city homicide task force 847 00:47:32,058 --> 00:47:35,810 Wanted to come over and view our evidence 848 00:47:35,970 --> 00:47:38,712 To see if there was a connection to three of 849 00:47:38,714 --> 00:47:42,308 Their open homicides that occurred 850 00:47:42,426 --> 00:47:46,511 Within months of cottingham's arrest. 851 00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:49,073 They had executed a search warrant 852 00:47:49,191 --> 00:47:51,258 At his house in lodi, new jersey. 853 00:47:51,286 --> 00:47:53,094 They came upon a room that 854 00:47:53,121 --> 00:47:56,171 Even cottingham's wife was not allowed in. 855 00:47:56,173 --> 00:47:58,599 His trophy room. 856 00:47:58,626 --> 00:48:00,918 Serial killers, they collect 857 00:48:01,037 --> 00:48:03,028 Trophies of their victims. 858 00:48:03,189 --> 00:48:04,505 Kind of like a hunting trophy, 859 00:48:04,665 --> 00:48:07,066 Proof of the kill. 860 00:48:07,184 --> 00:48:09,184 That's how the cases were linked to new york, 861 00:48:09,186 --> 00:48:11,003 With the trophy room. 862 00:48:11,121 --> 00:48:12,446 So, this was big. 863 00:48:12,473 --> 00:48:14,281 Our evidence was in new jersey. 864 00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:15,933 ♪ 865 00:48:24,035 --> 00:48:26,035 After cottingham's arrest, 866 00:48:26,037 --> 00:48:28,279 A search of his residence finds 867 00:48:28,397 --> 00:48:33,542 A necklace that ultimately is tied back to jean reyner. 868 00:48:33,544 --> 00:48:37,663 ♪ 869 00:48:37,782 --> 00:48:39,615 Jean ann reyner had been arrested 870 00:48:39,733 --> 00:48:42,117 A few days prior to the homicide, 871 00:48:42,236 --> 00:48:46,455 And in the bci picture is the necklace on her neck. 872 00:48:46,573 --> 00:48:48,290 It's an exact match. 873 00:48:48,409 --> 00:48:51,010 ♪ 874 00:48:51,128 --> 00:48:53,679 There's still a very sick, sick killer on the loose. 875 00:48:53,798 --> 00:48:56,140 The man who cut off the, the heads and hands 876 00:48:56,258 --> 00:48:58,417 Of two women in a manhattan hotel room. 877 00:48:58,478 --> 00:49:01,570 Now, the police have a lot more questions than answers. 878 00:49:01,572 --> 00:49:03,222 It was three days ago that news center 4 told you 879 00:49:03,340 --> 00:49:05,391 Police in new jersey believe they had a suspect in 880 00:49:05,509 --> 00:49:07,501 The brutal killings of several prostitutes. 881 00:49:07,528 --> 00:49:09,052 That report was confirmed today, 882 00:49:09,072 --> 00:49:10,479 With the arrest of a man by the name of 883 00:49:10,597 --> 00:49:12,156 Richard cottingham. 884 00:49:31,268 --> 00:49:34,436 [laughing] 885 00:49:34,438 --> 00:49:36,588 We never offered him a deal. 886 00:49:36,707 --> 00:49:40,092 ♪ 887 00:49:40,210 --> 00:49:43,354 We laid all of this out before the grand jury, 888 00:49:43,472 --> 00:49:45,781 And the grand jury returned an indictment 889 00:49:45,783 --> 00:49:48,667 For the crimes of assault and kidnapping 890 00:49:48,669 --> 00:49:50,594 Against leslie ann o'dell, 891 00:49:50,613 --> 00:49:54,639 With crime of murder against valerie ann street. 892 00:49:54,659 --> 00:49:57,109 ♪ 893 00:49:57,269 --> 00:49:59,628 But it was entirely circumstantial against 894 00:49:59,630 --> 00:50:02,456 Maryann carr, but her murder was also included 895 00:50:02,616 --> 00:50:04,466 In the same indictment. 896 00:50:04,468 --> 00:50:06,651 ♪ 897 00:50:06,671 --> 00:50:09,230 He pled not guilty and took every case to trial. 898 00:50:09,257 --> 00:50:11,306 Would not cooperate, would not... 899 00:50:11,308 --> 00:50:13,342 Admit his guilt in any of it. 900 00:50:13,461 --> 00:50:15,553 ♪ 901 00:50:15,671 --> 00:50:18,355 The thing that put him at the scene of the 902 00:50:18,357 --> 00:50:21,650 Valerie ann street case was the fingerprint 903 00:50:21,652 --> 00:50:24,219 That had been taken off of the handcuffs 904 00:50:24,338 --> 00:50:27,322 That were on her body. 905 00:50:27,324 --> 00:50:29,875 ♪ 906 00:50:29,877 --> 00:50:32,644 We brought in leslie ann o'dell. 907 00:50:32,763 --> 00:50:35,205 She was very reluctant to come to testify, 908 00:50:35,207 --> 00:50:37,249 But she was cooperative. 909 00:50:37,409 --> 00:50:41,487 She was very matter of fact, she remembered everything. 910 00:50:41,605 --> 00:50:44,356 She got on the stand and just levelled him. 911 00:50:44,417 --> 00:50:46,100 "he drugged me, raped me. 912 00:50:46,127 --> 00:50:50,195 He, he cut my breasts." 913 00:50:50,256 --> 00:50:53,299 And he just sat there stone-faced. 914 00:50:53,417 --> 00:50:56,569 But it didn't seem to faze him. 915 00:50:56,571 --> 00:50:58,737 He thought, "ain't gonna matter. 916 00:50:58,739 --> 00:51:02,758 I'm going to testify, and I'll explain all of this." 917 00:51:02,876 --> 00:51:05,260 He was running the show, it was his show. 918 00:51:05,379 --> 00:51:08,247 ♪ 919 00:51:08,274 --> 00:51:10,749 So, he did take the stand. 920 00:51:10,777 --> 00:51:14,369 His demeanor was very calm. 921 00:51:14,371 --> 00:51:16,797 Mr. Cottingham thought somehow that 922 00:51:16,824 --> 00:51:18,690 He was going to beat the wrap. 923 00:51:18,809 --> 00:51:21,077 ♪ 924 00:51:21,195 --> 00:51:23,804 He admitted that he engaged in 925 00:51:23,831 --> 00:51:28,309 Sadomasochistic sexual activity. 926 00:51:28,336 --> 00:51:32,404 He claimed it was all consensual... 927 00:51:32,465 --> 00:51:34,723 That this was all a game. 928 00:51:34,725 --> 00:51:37,318 ♪ 929 00:51:37,345 --> 00:51:40,304 He had lives within lives within lives. 930 00:51:40,422 --> 00:51:42,731 ♪ 931 00:51:42,733 --> 00:51:44,266 His mother came in every day. 932 00:51:44,385 --> 00:51:47,386 And his sister, which was even worse, 933 00:51:47,504 --> 00:51:50,648 Because they still believed in him. 934 00:51:50,766 --> 00:51:52,650 And I'd say, "mrs. Cottingham, 935 00:51:52,768 --> 00:51:54,527 This is not good." 936 00:51:54,645 --> 00:51:56,629 "oh, oh, no, no, no, he's innocent, 937 00:51:56,656 --> 00:51:59,581 He's innocent." "okay..." 938 00:51:59,583 --> 00:52:02,401 ♪ 939 00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:06,205 If cottingham's mother dismissed... 940 00:52:06,323 --> 00:52:09,408 The things she's learning that he did, 941 00:52:09,526 --> 00:52:11,685 She is already the role model for 942 00:52:11,712 --> 00:52:14,930 His minimization at what he did. 943 00:52:14,932 --> 00:52:18,359 If it doesn't matter to her, and that's the woman 944 00:52:18,386 --> 00:52:23,681 Who raised him, it certainly does not matter to him. 945 00:52:23,799 --> 00:52:25,774 If convicted on all counts, 946 00:52:25,776 --> 00:52:27,351 Cottingham faces a maximum of 947 00:52:27,469 --> 00:52:31,689 274 years in prison, plus life. 948 00:52:31,807 --> 00:52:35,434 And he still faces trial in new york city for the murders 949 00:52:35,552 --> 00:52:38,437 And mutilations of two midtown prostitutes. 950 00:52:38,555 --> 00:52:42,624 That trial comes after this one's finished. 951 00:52:42,626 --> 00:52:44,717 The jury was not out very long, 952 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,662 About a day and a half. 953 00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:49,381 The sentence he received really ensured 954 00:52:49,383 --> 00:52:53,285 That he would never see the light of day. 955 00:52:53,403 --> 00:52:56,596 After that, he was taken over to new york, 956 00:52:56,598 --> 00:52:58,382 Where he was tried for the homicides that 957 00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:00,642 He had committed in new york city. 958 00:53:00,644 --> 00:53:05,981 ♪ 959 00:53:05,983 --> 00:53:08,967 By 1984, richard cottingham is 960 00:53:09,086 --> 00:53:10,744 Sentenced to five life sentences 961 00:53:10,771 --> 00:53:12,638 Between new york and new jersey. 962 00:53:12,756 --> 00:53:14,990 ♪ 963 00:53:14,992 --> 00:53:17,693 Effectively put away for the remainder of his days. 964 00:53:17,811 --> 00:53:22,114 ♪ 965 00:53:22,399 --> 00:53:27,336 ♪ 966 00:53:27,338 --> 00:53:29,871 Fast forward to 2004. 967 00:53:29,873 --> 00:53:32,041 I spent hundreds of hours with him at the prison. 968 00:53:32,343 --> 00:53:37,696 ♪ 969 00:53:37,757 --> 00:53:39,531 I had these 12 cold cases. 970 00:53:39,592 --> 00:53:41,608 I thought he could be good for some of them. 971 00:53:41,636 --> 00:53:44,419 And yet, I was just making no progress. 972 00:53:44,538 --> 00:53:47,598 I tried everything I could think of. 973 00:53:47,716 --> 00:53:49,967 Cottingham went to catholic grammar school. 974 00:53:50,085 --> 00:53:53,028 I've tried to play the religious theme on him 975 00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:55,030 As well, knowing that he had that background. 976 00:53:55,032 --> 00:53:57,507 Told him to cleanse his soul. 977 00:53:57,526 --> 00:53:59,610 This is another way that he can... 978 00:53:59,728 --> 00:54:01,487 Kind of make peace with god. 979 00:54:28,665 --> 00:54:32,401 I've played that theme over and over and over. 980 00:54:32,403 --> 00:54:34,419 Trying to draw an ounce of empathy out of him 981 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,571 For the victims' families. 982 00:54:36,573 --> 00:54:37,889 ♪ 983 00:54:38,050 --> 00:54:39,707 The family members have a tremendous 984 00:54:39,709 --> 00:54:41,668 Thirst for information. It just never goes away. 985 00:54:41,696 --> 00:54:44,746 They want to know what happened. 986 00:54:44,748 --> 00:54:46,581 Over the years he would say, 987 00:54:46,583 --> 00:54:47,992 "why would I do that if it's going to hurt me?" 988 00:55:09,773 --> 00:55:14,626 ♪ 989 00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:16,920 The three children were obviously adults now. 990 00:55:16,939 --> 00:55:19,948 He claimed that he had a sensitivity towards 991 00:55:19,950 --> 00:55:22,735 His children reading about him in the newspaper. 992 00:55:44,884 --> 00:55:45,883 Every time you think you're making progress 993 00:55:46,001 --> 00:55:47,642 With this guy he throws another excuse on 994 00:55:47,644 --> 00:55:51,889 Why he's not willing to give you what you need. 995 00:55:52,007 --> 00:55:54,016 Eventually he complained... 996 00:55:54,134 --> 00:55:56,000 He didn't like when I visited him at the prison 997 00:55:56,162 --> 00:55:58,503 Because the other inmates knew that 998 00:55:58,564 --> 00:55:59,971 He was getting pulled out. 999 00:56:00,090 --> 00:56:02,066 ♪ 1000 00:56:02,184 --> 00:56:03,734 It looks like he's a rat. 1001 00:56:18,692 --> 00:56:21,660 I thought for sure at any given moment, 1002 00:56:21,778 --> 00:56:24,755 He's going to completely tank on me and stop it. 1003 00:56:35,192 --> 00:56:37,935 ♪ 1004 00:56:38,053 --> 00:56:39,578 Early on, richard was complaining that 1005 00:56:39,696 --> 00:56:42,364 I was visiting him at the prison. 1006 00:56:42,366 --> 00:56:45,200 There's a process in a prison, right. 1007 00:56:45,202 --> 00:56:47,510 Just because I'm a detective, I didn't just get to walk in 1008 00:56:47,630 --> 00:56:49,204 The prison and go up to his cell and be like, 1009 00:56:49,206 --> 00:56:50,280 "hey, richard, how are you?" 1010 00:56:50,399 --> 00:56:52,950 They'd have to get guards to bring him down so, 1011 00:56:53,068 --> 00:56:56,545 He would walk past the prison population. 1012 00:56:56,547 --> 00:56:58,213 You know, it doesn't go over well with the 1013 00:56:58,215 --> 00:57:00,549 Prison population, he's cooperating with the police. 1014 00:57:00,551 --> 00:57:03,552 Even if all he's telling on is himself. 1015 00:57:03,554 --> 00:57:05,220 He would have to walk past the iceman, 1016 00:57:05,222 --> 00:57:07,131 And the iceman would quietly chuckle to himself. 1017 00:57:07,249 --> 00:57:08,841 He knew exactly where he was going. 1018 00:57:20,262 --> 00:57:22,237 He wanted me to get him out of the prison and say, 1019 00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:23,889 You know, "bring me up to bergen county 1020 00:57:24,007 --> 00:57:26,241 Where these guys don't see what I'm doing." 1021 00:57:26,243 --> 00:57:30,946 ♪ 1022 00:57:31,064 --> 00:57:33,824 It gave me an excuse to bring him onto my home turf, 1023 00:57:33,942 --> 00:57:36,401 Where I can control the visit better. 1024 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,829 ♪ 1025 00:57:38,947 --> 00:57:40,347 Just me and a partner would go down, pick him up, 1026 00:57:40,374 --> 00:57:42,157 Drive him up to bergen county, 1027 00:57:42,275 --> 00:57:44,409 Talk to him for hours, drive him back. 1028 00:57:44,528 --> 00:57:48,446 ♪ 1029 00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:50,482 I would keep him overnight. 1030 00:57:50,484 --> 00:57:53,010 We put him in our own cellblock. 1031 00:57:53,128 --> 00:57:54,603 ♪ 1032 00:57:54,605 --> 00:57:56,513 The next morning, pull him out and start all over again. 1033 00:57:56,632 --> 00:57:58,440 Feed him an egg sandwich, a cup of coffee, 1034 00:57:58,442 --> 00:58:01,943 And we'd go at it again. 1035 00:58:01,945 --> 00:58:04,930 It was just a total cat and mouse game that we would play. 1036 00:58:05,048 --> 00:58:07,191 ♪ 1037 00:58:07,309 --> 00:58:10,068 Each of us was trying to play the other. 1038 00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:44,152 There was no way to talk about murders 1039 00:58:44,154 --> 00:58:45,896 All day long and... 1040 00:58:46,014 --> 00:58:48,065 Think I would get anywhere with him. 1041 00:58:48,183 --> 00:58:50,158 If I was really going to build trust with this guy, 1042 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,327 There had to be times where he felt like, you know, 1043 00:58:52,329 --> 00:58:54,071 I was just being his friend... 1044 00:58:54,189 --> 00:58:56,498 As despicable and disgusting as that is. 1045 00:58:56,500 --> 00:59:00,077 ♪ 1046 00:59:00,195 --> 00:59:03,505 We'd have him up and, sometimes just play cards. 1047 00:59:03,507 --> 00:59:05,991 ♪ 1048 00:59:06,109 --> 00:59:07,342 I'd have six detectives in my office, 1049 00:59:07,344 --> 00:59:09,177 And we'd sit around and play poker, 1050 00:59:09,179 --> 00:59:11,380 After we were done interrogating him for a day. 1051 00:59:11,498 --> 00:59:14,049 ♪ 1052 00:59:14,167 --> 00:59:17,502 Even though he's treating him like a human... 1053 00:59:17,621 --> 00:59:20,430 He's an animal. 1054 00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:22,424 It's hard to sit down with the devil and 1055 00:59:22,542 --> 00:59:24,810 Make believe you're the same. 1056 00:59:25,128 --> 00:59:26,511 ♪ 1057 00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:28,605 He just kept putting obstacle after obstacle in front of me 1058 00:59:28,724 --> 00:59:31,233 On why he wouldn't talk about another case. 1059 00:59:48,076 --> 00:59:53,964 He's the type of offender who trusts in language. 1060 00:59:54,082 --> 00:59:56,725 He thinks that if he puts things into his 1061 00:59:56,727 --> 01:00:01,062 Own narrative, he will control reality, 1062 01:00:01,064 --> 01:00:05,550 He will control what his crimes mean. 1063 01:00:05,669 --> 01:00:09,621 You're dealing with a clever, malignant narcissist. 1064 01:00:09,623 --> 01:00:12,332 Richard cottingham is playing a game for, 1065 01:00:12,359 --> 01:00:14,501 "what can I get out of this?" 1066 01:00:14,528 --> 01:00:16,094 So, he wanted something back. 1067 01:00:16,155 --> 01:00:20,264 "what are you going to do for me?" 1068 01:00:20,326 --> 01:00:22,751 There were a few staples that richard always wanted, 1069 01:00:22,753 --> 01:00:24,235 And that kept him happy. 1070 01:00:24,354 --> 01:00:25,587 And they were relatively simple, 1071 01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:27,589 So why not give them to him? 1072 01:00:27,591 --> 01:00:30,308 ♪ 1073 01:00:30,310 --> 01:00:32,761 He loved pizza from a certain pizza place. 1074 01:00:32,763 --> 01:00:35,205 I'd send detectives go pick up a couple of pies. 1075 01:00:35,323 --> 01:00:37,432 He loved sausage and extra cheese pizza. 1076 01:00:37,434 --> 01:00:39,283 ♪ 1077 01:00:39,303 --> 01:00:42,971 He liked donuts from dunkin' donuts. 1078 01:00:43,090 --> 01:00:46,524 There were times he'd ask for cheeseburgers. 1079 01:00:46,526 --> 01:00:50,128 If it starts with a deck of cards, or a pizza, 1080 01:00:50,189 --> 01:00:53,231 It's almost like a trading, a horse trading going on. 1081 01:00:55,385 --> 01:00:59,363 After I met his demands... 1082 01:00:59,481 --> 01:01:02,240 He began to cooperate with me. 1083 01:01:37,185 --> 01:01:39,753 He began to open up about the past. 1084 01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:42,497 This is where I would sense the opening to be like, 1085 01:01:42,499 --> 01:01:45,349 Let me try and get something from him. 1086 01:01:45,411 --> 01:01:47,819 We did one day get to the point of 1087 01:01:47,937 --> 01:01:50,171 Doing what we call like a 'queen for a day', 1088 01:01:50,173 --> 01:01:52,523 Which is a proffer agreement where we say, 1089 01:01:52,584 --> 01:01:54,525 "you're going to come in, whatever you tell us today 1090 01:01:54,586 --> 01:01:56,086 Is not going to be used against you 1091 01:01:56,204 --> 01:01:58,513 In a court of law." 1092 01:01:58,515 --> 01:02:00,090 During that proffer session, 1093 01:02:00,208 --> 01:02:03,334 He gave a little bit of detail... 1094 01:02:03,453 --> 01:02:08,356 That he killed a housewife in October of 1967. 1095 01:02:08,358 --> 01:02:10,267 He said that he believed that she had children. 1096 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,429 This was the break I'd been waiting for. 1097 01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:41,631 ♪ 1098 01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:43,675 We're finally here. We're finally at this moment. 1099 01:03:00,101 --> 01:03:06,990 ♪ 1100 01:03:07,108 --> 01:03:09,392 Of all the unsolved homicides that 1101 01:03:09,411 --> 01:03:12,937 I had been looking at involving young women... 1102 01:03:12,998 --> 01:03:17,400 Nancy vogel was really the only one that had children. 1103 01:03:17,419 --> 01:03:20,428 So, it was just that little tidbit that made me then 1104 01:03:20,430 --> 01:03:22,188 Go get the file, look at it and 1105 01:03:22,216 --> 01:03:26,026 Really start studying the vogel homicide. 1106 01:03:26,053 --> 01:03:27,602 Nancy vogel was a 29-year-old 1107 01:03:27,604 --> 01:03:30,030 Married mother of two. 1108 01:03:30,057 --> 01:03:32,423 Her children were nine and five years old. 1109 01:03:32,542 --> 01:03:35,443 ♪ 1110 01:03:35,445 --> 01:03:38,263 1967 was a, was a different, different world. 1111 01:03:38,381 --> 01:03:45,436 ♪ 1112 01:03:45,555 --> 01:03:47,622 In little ferry, we had a... 1113 01:03:47,624 --> 01:03:50,534 A typical italian setup- the two-family house 1114 01:03:50,652 --> 01:03:53,111 With the finished basement where everyone ate and my 1115 01:03:53,229 --> 01:03:55,446 Grandmother lived upstairs, we lived in the middle. 1116 01:03:55,565 --> 01:03:57,982 ♪ 1117 01:03:58,001 --> 01:03:59,167 She was always happy, 1118 01:03:59,286 --> 01:04:00,318 She was always doing things for us. 1119 01:04:00,379 --> 01:04:04,597 She always- you know, she's the perfect mom. 1120 01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:06,541 We used to, every year, go to wildwood and 1121 01:04:06,659 --> 01:04:08,293 Having fun on the beach. 1122 01:04:08,411 --> 01:04:10,762 Always laughing. 1123 01:04:11,047 --> 01:04:13,548 ♪ 1124 01:04:13,666 --> 01:04:17,227 And then, it was a day or two before Halloween. 1125 01:04:17,345 --> 01:04:21,155 My life would change. 1126 01:04:21,157 --> 01:04:24,309 My sister went to my father about 2, 3 o'clock 1127 01:04:24,427 --> 01:04:27,495 In the morning and said, "mommy's not home." 1128 01:04:27,497 --> 01:04:31,908 ♪ 1129 01:04:32,027 --> 01:04:33,668 By the time I woke up, it was, you know, 1130 01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:36,321 8, 9 o'clock in the morning. 1131 01:04:36,439 --> 01:04:39,507 People were at the house, and it was frantic, chaos. 1132 01:04:39,509 --> 01:04:41,918 ♪ 1133 01:04:42,037 --> 01:04:44,087 My father and my uncle- which is my mother's brother- 1134 01:04:44,205 --> 01:04:45,196 Went to the police department. 1135 01:04:45,257 --> 01:04:46,998 They were driving around town looking for her, 1136 01:04:47,116 --> 01:04:51,502 Calling friends and relatives that she might have been with. 1137 01:04:51,621 --> 01:04:54,188 She was missing for a day or two. 1138 01:04:54,190 --> 01:05:01,104 ♪ 1139 01:05:01,222 --> 01:05:04,365 I was in 6th grade, and I came home 1140 01:05:04,367 --> 01:05:06,701 From catholic school with my friend. 1141 01:05:06,703 --> 01:05:10,204 And there was a car over here that did not look familiar. 1142 01:05:10,206 --> 01:05:13,241 And, we looked into the car, and we saw something 1143 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,377 That looked like a mannequin. 1144 01:05:16,379 --> 01:05:17,954 It was indeed not a mannequin, 1145 01:05:18,073 --> 01:05:20,548 And it was a woman. 1146 01:05:20,550 --> 01:05:22,383 ♪ 1147 01:05:22,385 --> 01:05:24,102 She was wedged between the 1148 01:05:24,220 --> 01:05:27,130 Back of the front seat and on the floor. 1149 01:05:27,248 --> 01:05:29,841 Her arms were tied, and she was naked. 1150 01:05:30,226 --> 01:05:31,768 ♪ 1151 01:05:31,770 --> 01:05:35,079 So, we ran in the house to call the police. 1152 01:05:35,098 --> 01:05:36,263 They're like, "a dead body?" 1153 01:05:36,265 --> 01:05:37,415 I'm like, "yes, I think there's a dead body 1154 01:05:37,476 --> 01:05:40,042 In the car in front of my house." 1155 01:05:40,162 --> 01:05:42,053 They came immediately. 1156 01:05:42,213 --> 01:05:45,131 They dusted the door for prints. 1157 01:05:45,292 --> 01:05:48,159 And, news people came, and they were taking pictures. 1158 01:05:48,161 --> 01:05:51,287 ♪ 1159 01:05:51,405 --> 01:05:53,264 Neighbors from all over the place were down, 1160 01:05:53,425 --> 01:05:56,234 Asking questions. Nothing happened here, ever. 1161 01:05:56,352 --> 01:05:58,419 So, it was huge. 1162 01:05:58,421 --> 01:06:01,498 ♪ 1163 01:06:01,616 --> 01:06:04,258 So my grandmother was making us lunch. 1164 01:06:04,260 --> 01:06:07,187 ♪ 1165 01:06:07,214 --> 01:06:08,413 And my sister opens the door, 1166 01:06:08,531 --> 01:06:10,431 And it was the newspaper, saying, 1167 01:06:10,433 --> 01:06:13,084 "now that you found out that your mother's dead, 1168 01:06:13,202 --> 01:06:15,178 How do you feel about it?" 1169 01:06:15,296 --> 01:06:17,180 And my sister was like, shocked. 1170 01:06:17,298 --> 01:06:18,748 And then, they came into the house, 1171 01:06:18,767 --> 01:06:21,351 And they talked to my grandmother, my nanny. 1172 01:06:21,469 --> 01:06:22,560 And, in italian, 1173 01:06:22,679 --> 01:06:25,129 She sent them to hell and cursed them out. 1174 01:06:25,148 --> 01:06:27,223 ♪ 1175 01:06:27,341 --> 01:06:29,317 It was bad. 1176 01:06:29,436 --> 01:06:33,196 I just remember just watching everybody yelling and crying 1177 01:06:33,314 --> 01:06:36,791 And not really understanding it. 1178 01:06:36,793 --> 01:06:39,460 So, that's how we found out. 1179 01:06:39,462 --> 01:06:45,041 ♪ 1180 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,301 The cops, you know, worked diligently 1181 01:06:47,303 --> 01:06:49,804 On the case back in 1967. 1182 01:06:49,806 --> 01:06:51,397 Documentation of what was done 1183 01:06:51,425 --> 01:06:53,474 Wasn't up to today's standards. 1184 01:06:53,476 --> 01:06:55,810 And we find this a lot of times in our cold case files, 1185 01:06:55,812 --> 01:06:58,238 That there's just not a lot of information about 1186 01:06:58,265 --> 01:06:59,647 What was done, and what, 1187 01:06:59,649 --> 01:07:01,632 What wasn't done. You know, 1188 01:07:01,751 --> 01:07:05,486 ♪ 1189 01:07:05,488 --> 01:07:06,604 She left her house, 1190 01:07:06,723 --> 01:07:08,355 Telling her family she was going to 1191 01:07:08,357 --> 01:07:12,660 The shopping center in little ferry, new jersey. 1192 01:07:12,662 --> 01:07:14,145 Three days later, her body was found 1193 01:07:14,263 --> 01:07:16,497 In the back seat of her car... 1194 01:07:16,499 --> 01:07:19,734 On a side street in ridgefield park, new jersey. 1195 01:07:19,852 --> 01:07:22,245 Raped, beaten, and strangled. 1196 01:07:25,533 --> 01:07:28,526 In this case, we saw who they were going after. 1197 01:07:28,587 --> 01:07:31,771 There was nothing obvious. 1198 01:07:31,798 --> 01:07:33,256 It was a big story at the time, 1199 01:07:33,374 --> 01:07:37,427 And it also grew over time. 1200 01:07:37,545 --> 01:07:39,854 Cottingham was never considered a suspect 1201 01:07:39,856 --> 01:07:41,372 In the murder of nancy vogel, 1202 01:07:41,433 --> 01:07:46,186 Until he directed me to that case. 1203 01:07:46,346 --> 01:07:49,263 When you solve a cold case, you don't just simply 1204 01:07:49,382 --> 01:07:52,383 Take a person's word that, "I did it." 1205 01:07:52,444 --> 01:07:55,703 There were quite a few more details. 1206 01:07:55,705 --> 01:07:57,205 ♪ 1207 01:07:57,207 --> 01:07:59,557 She was acquainted with richard cottingham. 1208 01:07:59,618 --> 01:08:02,410 Cottingham lived in little ferry at the time. 1209 01:08:21,473 --> 01:08:24,540 In her own rambler vehicle, there were brown 1210 01:08:24,559 --> 01:08:26,717 Shopping bags in the back of the vehicle. 1211 01:08:26,836 --> 01:08:30,638 ♪ 1212 01:08:30,756 --> 01:08:34,742 There were relatively recent purchases at the valley fair. 1213 01:08:34,744 --> 01:08:37,578 ♪ 1214 01:08:37,580 --> 01:08:39,489 We knew that there was a 1215 01:08:39,607 --> 01:08:42,583 Sexual overtone to the crime, 1216 01:08:42,585 --> 01:08:44,452 That she had been strangled. 1217 01:09:13,382 --> 01:09:16,617 Here was that independent proof, 1218 01:09:16,619 --> 01:09:19,570 Along with other things. 1219 01:09:19,572 --> 01:09:22,264 Despite the fact that he pointed me in the direction 1220 01:09:22,284 --> 01:09:26,627 Of the nancy vogel case and gave me some details that... 1221 01:09:26,629 --> 01:09:29,463 Convinced me he was responsible for that murder, 1222 01:09:29,465 --> 01:09:32,617 He refused to give the full confession. 1223 01:09:32,735 --> 01:09:34,785 It was such a game of trying to be like, 1224 01:09:34,904 --> 01:09:37,563 Who is in control of this relationship that we have? 1225 01:09:37,591 --> 01:09:40,341 He did not want to give this confession. 1226 01:09:56,851 --> 01:09:58,651 Every time I thought we were going to get there, 1227 01:09:58,811 --> 01:09:59,877 He would say, 1228 01:09:59,879 --> 01:10:01,587 "well, you didn't come through with this for me. 1229 01:10:01,615 --> 01:10:03,497 What about the attorney general's office? 1230 01:10:03,499 --> 01:10:04,665 How do I know that they won't step in? 1231 01:10:04,667 --> 01:10:05,833 What if... 1232 01:10:05,835 --> 01:10:06,910 What if your boss leaves and there's a new boss and 1233 01:10:07,028 --> 01:10:09,412 He says, 'no, I want to charge the guy'?" 1234 01:10:09,530 --> 01:10:10,896 And, "how are you going to prove to me that 1235 01:10:10,957 --> 01:10:13,433 You're going to keep it out of the media? 1236 01:10:13,460 --> 01:10:14,659 What about the family members, 1237 01:10:14,661 --> 01:10:15,526 When you tell the family? 1238 01:10:15,587 --> 01:10:17,545 What if they go to the press?" 1239 01:10:17,664 --> 01:10:20,473 It was constantly this back and forth 1240 01:10:20,475 --> 01:10:22,942 Like bickering between the two of us over what the 1241 01:10:22,969 --> 01:10:25,595 "conditions" would be of this confession. 1242 01:10:46,734 --> 01:10:49,710 I came through on my end with all of his asks, 1243 01:10:49,712 --> 01:10:51,712 And it built up such a level of trust, 1244 01:10:51,714 --> 01:10:52,730 And then finally I was like, 1245 01:10:52,791 --> 01:10:54,432 "I'm not doing another ----ing thing for you 1246 01:10:54,459 --> 01:10:57,794 Until we get one." 1247 01:10:57,912 --> 01:11:01,555 And then finally, back in 2010, one visit, 1248 01:11:01,557 --> 01:11:05,376 I just broke him down and he agreed to confess. 1249 01:11:05,494 --> 01:11:07,728 ♪ 1250 01:11:07,730 --> 01:11:09,063 We're going on the record. 1251 01:11:09,065 --> 01:11:11,599 I was literally... 1252 01:11:11,718 --> 01:11:13,718 ----Ing in my pants. 1253 01:11:13,836 --> 01:11:16,587 ♪ 1254 01:11:16,648 --> 01:11:19,740 It's time to pay the piper. 1255 01:11:19,742 --> 01:11:23,411 I'm finally going to learn how he killed this person, 1256 01:11:23,413 --> 01:11:24,862 In his own words. 1257 01:11:45,935 --> 01:11:47,768 It's now 2010. 1258 01:11:47,770 --> 01:11:50,363 I've spent the last six years 1259 01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:52,440 Grinding away with this guy, 1260 01:11:52,442 --> 01:11:54,925 Trying to solve at least one of these 1261 01:11:55,086 --> 01:11:57,503 12 cold cases that I have. 1262 01:11:57,564 --> 01:11:59,338 He balked and balked and balked, 1263 01:11:59,399 --> 01:12:00,573 And then finally I would say, 1264 01:12:00,575 --> 01:12:02,650 "we're doing it now. We're doing it right now." 1265 01:12:02,769 --> 01:12:04,877 And I would flip the switch, and be like, 1266 01:12:04,904 --> 01:12:06,529 "I've had enough, let's go." 1267 01:12:46,020 --> 01:12:47,753 When I put the tape recorder on the table, 1268 01:12:47,781 --> 01:12:50,664 He actually like, pushed his chair back and began to sweat. 1269 01:12:50,666 --> 01:12:52,241 ♪ 1270 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,594 It was a visceral reaction on his part... 1271 01:12:54,621 --> 01:12:57,488 Once we started going. 1272 01:12:57,606 --> 01:12:58,506 He looks like he's going to 1273 01:12:58,508 --> 01:13:00,600 Back down from confessing to it. 1274 01:13:00,627 --> 01:13:03,769 He's shying away from the recorder. 1275 01:13:03,797 --> 01:13:05,588 It's six years in the making. 1276 01:13:05,706 --> 01:13:08,091 And now, you know, I'm praying that 1277 01:13:08,209 --> 01:13:10,927 He doesn't panic so much that he shuts down. 1278 01:13:29,038 --> 01:13:30,704 I kind of had to bring him back on track to 1279 01:13:30,706 --> 01:13:32,873 Make sure that he didn't kind of, you know, 1280 01:13:32,875 --> 01:13:34,784 ---- The bed on me and say, "I don't want to do this." 1281 01:14:16,185 --> 01:14:18,511 He's very calm and matter of fact, 1282 01:14:18,538 --> 01:14:21,681 And it's as if he has no feelings about it whatsoever. 1283 01:14:21,708 --> 01:14:23,140 He doesn't seem to have any remorse. 1284 01:14:23,168 --> 01:14:25,126 He doesn't seem to have empathy. 1285 01:15:00,963 --> 01:15:03,055 So, to sit across from somebody, 1286 01:15:03,082 --> 01:15:04,890 And hear them tell... 1287 01:15:04,918 --> 01:15:07,727 The story of a brutal rape and murder as if it's 1288 01:15:07,754 --> 01:15:09,545 An everyday occurrence in their life, 1289 01:15:09,664 --> 01:15:11,138 As if it's the same as me telling you a story about 1290 01:15:11,256 --> 01:15:13,040 Going to the grocery store and buying a gallon of milk, 1291 01:15:13,158 --> 01:15:15,051 Is, is disturbing. 1292 01:15:15,169 --> 01:15:19,931 ♪ 1293 01:15:51,947 --> 01:15:55,967 I didn't get him to confess to that case until 2010. 1294 01:15:56,085 --> 01:15:59,595 Six frigging years later. 1295 01:15:59,714 --> 01:16:02,189 And in between there was hundreds of hours. 1296 01:16:02,191 --> 01:16:05,101 And that's how obstinate the guy could be and how stubborn. 1297 01:16:05,219 --> 01:16:09,697 ♪ 1298 01:16:09,699 --> 01:16:13,033 We talked to the family after the confession. 1299 01:16:13,035 --> 01:16:15,795 I had bill and his sister karen, 1300 01:16:15,822 --> 01:16:17,021 And some other family members 1301 01:16:17,139 --> 01:16:19,965 Come into the prosecutor's office. 1302 01:16:19,993 --> 01:16:22,451 We wanted the family to hear it first. 1303 01:16:22,570 --> 01:16:26,046 Never, ever, ever have them read it in a newspaper. 1304 01:16:26,048 --> 01:16:27,698 And because of this type of a case, 1305 01:16:27,816 --> 01:16:31,294 We wanted to meet them personally. 1306 01:16:31,412 --> 01:16:34,872 I didn't know who richard cottingham was or anything. 1307 01:16:34,990 --> 01:16:37,300 Rob reaches over, he goes, "bill, 1308 01:16:37,418 --> 01:16:39,969 Don't go home and google richard cottingham. 1309 01:16:40,087 --> 01:16:43,764 Don't do that yet. It's not the same thing." 1310 01:16:43,883 --> 01:16:45,825 ♪ 1311 01:16:45,852 --> 01:16:48,235 You're now able to answer a lot of questions. 1312 01:16:48,237 --> 01:16:50,021 And sometimes I wonder... 1313 01:16:50,139 --> 01:16:53,816 Is it better sometimes to have the questions unanswered? 1314 01:16:53,934 --> 01:16:55,893 Or to get the answers, even though the 1315 01:16:56,011 --> 01:17:01,081 Answers themselves may cause you more pain? 1316 01:17:01,083 --> 01:17:04,242 My mom was always watching out over me. 1317 01:17:04,244 --> 01:17:07,012 And that's my biggest thing, I really feel that 1318 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,333 She was taken before her time. 1319 01:17:10,451 --> 01:17:12,259 And throughout the whole thing, they just kept saying, 1320 01:17:12,261 --> 01:17:14,186 "you have to keep it quiet, you have to keep it quiet. 1321 01:17:14,213 --> 01:17:16,172 You can't tell anybody." and I agreed. 1322 01:17:16,290 --> 01:17:19,266 ♪ 1323 01:17:19,268 --> 01:17:22,269 Keeping quiet is a- was hard. 1324 01:17:22,271 --> 01:17:24,196 Very, very hard. 1325 01:17:24,223 --> 01:17:25,789 ♪ 1326 01:17:25,850 --> 01:17:27,683 One of the reasons why we want to 1327 01:17:27,802 --> 01:17:30,686 Honor cottingham's request, as much as we don't 1328 01:17:30,805 --> 01:17:33,097 Want to honor anything the man has to say, 1329 01:17:33,215 --> 01:17:36,283 Is we want to do this for the next family, 1330 01:17:36,285 --> 01:17:38,786 For the next father, for the next mother, 1331 01:17:38,788 --> 01:17:40,045 For the next sibling. 1332 01:17:40,073 --> 01:17:42,681 We want him to continue to tell us things. 1333 01:17:42,842 --> 01:17:46,385 You always want to solve these cold cases. 1334 01:17:46,412 --> 01:17:48,779 After getting that first confession, 1335 01:17:48,897 --> 01:17:50,873 I was hoping that this was finally the moment 1336 01:17:50,991 --> 01:17:53,042 That the dam would break, and... 1337 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,787 He would open up about other cases. 1338 01:17:56,905 --> 01:17:58,972 To get him to go to court was really important to me, 1339 01:17:58,974 --> 01:18:01,825 It was important to me for the victim's family. 1340 01:18:01,886 --> 01:18:03,068 This was the first one, 1341 01:18:03,096 --> 01:18:07,047 And I just wanted that foundation laid. 1342 01:18:07,166 --> 01:18:09,141 And that took some time and some convincing. 1343 01:18:09,301 --> 01:18:12,110 ♪ 1344 01:18:12,112 --> 01:18:14,079 Richard cottingham was already serving 1345 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,339 Multiple life terms. 1346 01:18:16,359 --> 01:18:18,325 The plea deal was, 1347 01:18:18,327 --> 01:18:20,085 "you're going to get another life term. 1348 01:18:20,113 --> 01:18:22,996 Nothing less. A life for a life." 1349 01:18:22,998 --> 01:18:25,123 And he was okay with that. 1350 01:18:25,125 --> 01:18:27,218 ♪ 1351 01:18:27,245 --> 01:18:29,945 You know, he just didn't want to be in the public eye. 1352 01:18:30,063 --> 01:18:32,331 He didn't want his kids to know 1353 01:18:32,491 --> 01:18:34,333 The real, true monster that he was. 1354 01:18:58,450 --> 01:19:03,020 ♪ 1355 01:19:03,138 --> 01:19:04,280 I had to convince him that 1356 01:19:04,398 --> 01:19:05,781 We were not going to put out a press release, 1357 01:19:05,900 --> 01:19:06,857 We weren't going to make a big 1358 01:19:06,975 --> 01:19:09,042 Dog and pony show about it. 1359 01:19:09,044 --> 01:19:10,544 ♪ 1360 01:19:10,546 --> 01:19:14,306 The actual court date was in August of 2010. 1361 01:19:14,333 --> 01:19:16,475 ♪ 1362 01:19:16,502 --> 01:19:19,378 In an effort to really keep it out of the newspapers and, 1363 01:19:19,538 --> 01:19:23,390 And quiet, we made it late in the day. 1364 01:19:23,392 --> 01:19:24,875 We can't keep the public out 1365 01:19:24,993 --> 01:19:26,218 Or we can't keep the media out of the court, 1366 01:19:26,378 --> 01:19:29,154 But there was very, very little likelihood that the 1367 01:19:29,182 --> 01:19:31,824 Press would be lurking around the courthouse at say, 1368 01:19:31,851 --> 01:19:35,978 4:30, 5 o'clock in the afternoon. 1369 01:19:36,096 --> 01:19:38,330 The only people that were really in the court was the 1370 01:19:38,357 --> 01:19:41,241 Prosecutor, myself, 1371 01:19:41,243 --> 01:19:43,335 Some other homicide detectives, 1372 01:19:43,362 --> 01:19:45,412 The vogel family... 1373 01:19:45,414 --> 01:19:48,340 Of course, cottingham, his defense attorney, 1374 01:19:48,367 --> 01:19:50,659 And judge venezia. 1375 01:19:50,945 --> 01:19:53,012 ♪ 1376 01:19:53,039 --> 01:19:54,914 My role was simple. 1377 01:19:55,074 --> 01:19:58,751 I was asked to take a plea. 1378 01:19:58,911 --> 01:20:00,352 And I was told, 1379 01:20:00,379 --> 01:20:04,414 "we'd like to make this short and sweet. 1380 01:20:04,533 --> 01:20:08,844 The plea, sentence, done." 1381 01:20:08,963 --> 01:20:11,196 And did I do that? For the most part, I did. 1382 01:20:11,224 --> 01:20:13,941 ♪ 1383 01:20:13,943 --> 01:20:17,202 Ah, it didn't exactly go as planned. 1384 01:20:17,230 --> 01:20:21,023 Your conduct and your history 1385 01:20:21,141 --> 01:20:23,984 Is beyond appalling. 1386 01:20:24,103 --> 01:20:26,019 ♪ 1387 01:20:26,138 --> 01:20:29,106 Judge venezia started really hammering him. 1388 01:20:29,224 --> 01:20:31,408 It doesn't detract from the fact that I think you are 1389 01:20:31,527 --> 01:20:34,378 An absolutely despicable human being, 1390 01:20:34,380 --> 01:20:37,056 And I use that word sparingly. 1391 01:20:37,083 --> 01:20:40,033 ♪ 1392 01:20:40,152 --> 01:20:42,260 I thought at any given moment he's gonna say, 1393 01:20:42,262 --> 01:20:43,929 "you know what, judge, I'm not guilty. 1394 01:20:43,931 --> 01:20:44,913 I didn't do this," 1395 01:20:45,032 --> 01:20:47,900 Or somehow sabotage the confession he gave. 1396 01:20:47,927 --> 01:20:49,902 I was waiting for him to turn to me and say, 1397 01:20:49,929 --> 01:20:51,262 "I'm not doing this." 1398 01:20:59,655 --> 01:21:05,267 ♪ 1399 01:21:05,385 --> 01:21:06,643 So, we bring him into court 1400 01:21:06,803 --> 01:21:08,779 In front of judge donald venezia. 1401 01:21:08,898 --> 01:21:11,565 ♪ 1402 01:21:11,683 --> 01:21:14,410 We explained it in no uncertain terms that... 1403 01:21:14,528 --> 01:21:17,504 We were not looking for fanfare in this thing. 1404 01:21:17,506 --> 01:21:20,507 We wanted to quietly give closure to the family. 1405 01:21:20,509 --> 01:21:23,252 ♪ 1406 01:21:23,370 --> 01:21:26,847 We needed it just quick and quiet. 1407 01:21:26,849 --> 01:21:28,832 ♪ 1408 01:21:28,951 --> 01:21:31,018 Bring him to the courtroom at a set time that we had 1409 01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:34,430 Made arrangements for, sentence him right there. 1410 01:21:34,548 --> 01:21:38,434 Everything was perfect. 1411 01:21:38,552 --> 01:21:41,028 They want to get it over with, I get it. 1412 01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:45,849 And I was told, "we'd like to make this short and sweet." 1413 01:21:45,968 --> 01:21:50,720 ♪ 1414 01:21:50,781 --> 01:21:52,856 For the first time, I see richard cottingham 1415 01:21:52,975 --> 01:21:54,708 Walking down the hallway. 1416 01:21:54,710 --> 01:21:56,285 ♪ 1417 01:21:56,403 --> 01:21:58,561 He looks like santa claus with his long, long beard. 1418 01:21:58,623 --> 01:22:00,639 He's overweight and whatnot. 1419 01:22:00,666 --> 01:22:03,367 This is nothing that I imagined. 1420 01:22:03,485 --> 01:22:04,567 So, you know, as a little kid, 1421 01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:05,644 You say your mother was murdered, 1422 01:22:05,671 --> 01:22:09,373 You think it's like a big monster, bad... 1423 01:22:09,491 --> 01:22:12,559 Ugly, terrible person. 1424 01:22:12,561 --> 01:22:15,062 And here's... He's nothing. 1425 01:22:15,064 --> 01:22:18,632 He's a shell of a man. 1426 01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:21,435 It was, you know, kind of both exhilarating and 1427 01:22:21,553 --> 01:22:22,937 Frustrating all at the same time. 1428 01:22:23,055 --> 01:22:25,088 It's hard to put into words. 1429 01:22:25,207 --> 01:22:27,382 The culmination of six years' worth of work 1430 01:22:27,401 --> 01:22:30,402 Coming down to this. 1431 01:22:30,562 --> 01:22:32,796 I never thought that I'd have the opportunity there, 1432 01:22:32,798 --> 01:22:36,316 Mr. Cottingham, 1433 01:22:36,435 --> 01:22:38,827 To really witness somebody 1434 01:22:38,946 --> 01:22:42,331 Who has the makeup that you do. 1435 01:22:42,449 --> 01:22:45,926 Your conduct and your history 1436 01:22:45,928 --> 01:22:48,445 Is beyond appalling. 1437 01:22:48,506 --> 01:22:49,579 And that, very frankly, 1438 01:22:49,698 --> 01:22:51,973 When you end up wherever you end up, 1439 01:22:51,975 --> 01:22:55,477 I suggest you dress with light clothes 'cause it's 1440 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,647 Usually pretty hot where I think you're going. 1441 01:22:58,649 --> 01:23:00,982 In the middle of the court proceeding, 1442 01:23:00,984 --> 01:23:02,926 The judge just begins to berate him, 1443 01:23:03,045 --> 01:23:04,536 And I'm watching it go south. 1444 01:23:04,563 --> 01:23:07,706 And I'm just like, this is so ----ing bad. 1445 01:23:07,733 --> 01:23:11,018 I don't think I've ever had the ability 1446 01:23:11,136 --> 01:23:14,438 Nor desire to ever, like... 1447 01:23:14,556 --> 01:23:18,458 Witness the devil in my courtroom. 1448 01:23:18,460 --> 01:23:23,071 But I think I see him today in you. 1449 01:23:23,190 --> 01:23:26,466 You see me in the row, right behind him, 1450 01:23:26,468 --> 01:23:27,768 And I'm like literally slumping down 1451 01:23:27,886 --> 01:23:30,921 With the, "oh, ----". 1452 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,640 It doesn't detract from the fact that I think you are 1453 01:23:33,642 --> 01:23:36,610 An absolutely despicable human being and 1454 01:23:36,612 --> 01:23:39,738 I use that word sparingly. 1455 01:23:39,765 --> 01:23:41,815 Very difficult to look people in the eye, 1456 01:23:41,817 --> 01:23:43,058 Who lost a loved one, 1457 01:23:43,177 --> 01:23:45,802 Because of the outrageous deed of somebody 1458 01:23:45,921 --> 01:23:47,971 Who's standing twelve feet from you, 1459 01:23:48,090 --> 01:23:49,672 And twelve feet from them. 1460 01:23:49,734 --> 01:23:52,826 Whether you're a judge or not, you're a human being. 1461 01:23:52,828 --> 01:23:56,813 ♪ 1462 01:23:56,932 --> 01:23:58,924 It wasn't, you know, typically what you see 1463 01:23:58,951 --> 01:24:00,167 Out of a judge in a courtroom, 1464 01:24:00,169 --> 01:24:01,577 But I think in this particular case, 1465 01:24:01,695 --> 01:24:03,737 He needed to hear that. 1466 01:24:03,855 --> 01:24:05,522 ♪ 1467 01:24:05,583 --> 01:24:09,859 I'm glad he did that, I'm glad he stood up. 1468 01:24:09,861 --> 01:24:12,529 Then, the judge literally forced him to turn around and 1469 01:24:12,548 --> 01:24:15,624 Apologize to bill vogel and his sister. 1470 01:24:15,742 --> 01:24:17,151 Why don't you turn around and tell them, 1471 01:24:17,269 --> 01:24:19,595 'cause what's left of 'em are in the audience over there. 1472 01:24:19,713 --> 01:24:22,172 Why don't you, why don't you man up a little bit there? 1473 01:24:22,290 --> 01:24:24,725 I want you to look at them in the eye and tell them. 1474 01:24:24,843 --> 01:24:27,027 Huh? How about that? Why don't you do that? 1475 01:24:27,029 --> 01:24:30,030 I am very sorry for all the pain I've caused you. 1476 01:24:30,148 --> 01:24:32,691 I really mean that. 1477 01:24:32,851 --> 01:24:35,718 His narrative is reality to him, 1478 01:24:35,780 --> 01:24:39,873 And the judge in the room punctures that... 1479 01:24:39,875 --> 01:24:43,877 Because he was helpless. 1480 01:24:43,879 --> 01:24:45,621 ♪ 1481 01:24:45,739 --> 01:24:47,714 When it was all over, 1482 01:24:47,716 --> 01:24:49,699 I escorted him out. 1483 01:24:49,818 --> 01:24:53,128 Cottingham stopped, turned to me... 1484 01:24:53,247 --> 01:24:55,956 And says, "you will never get me to ----ing do this again." 1485 01:24:56,074 --> 01:24:58,908 ♪ 1486 01:24:58,969 --> 01:25:00,803 Six years of work. 1487 01:25:00,921 --> 01:25:03,547 2004 to 2010. 1488 01:25:03,665 --> 01:25:06,550 I finally get him to confess... 1489 01:25:06,668 --> 01:25:09,069 And I just lost this guy forever. 1490 01:25:09,071 --> 01:25:11,788 ♪ 1491 01:25:11,790 --> 01:25:15,392 After cottingham confessed to the murder of nancy vogel, 1492 01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:17,861 He told me that murder was not his first. 1493 01:25:27,089 --> 01:25:28,664 It got my mind thinking of... 1494 01:25:28,782 --> 01:25:30,499 How many could be out there? 1495 01:25:30,617 --> 01:25:32,668 I'm convinced that he's good for more than just 1496 01:25:32,786 --> 01:25:35,003 The one that he's confessed to, 1497 01:25:35,122 --> 01:25:38,065 But I still have 11 of these cases unsolved. 1498 01:25:38,183 --> 01:25:44,187 ♪ 1499 01:25:44,189 --> 01:25:46,956 She would have fought for her life. 1500 01:25:47,017 --> 01:25:48,750 A rope was reportedly tied around 1501 01:25:48,769 --> 01:25:50,251 One of the girls' necks. 1502 01:25:50,271 --> 01:25:53,254 There's this fear that went through everybody. 1503 01:25:53,274 --> 01:25:55,865 She was just headed home. 1504 01:25:55,867 --> 01:25:57,860 Is there anything more powerful than 1505 01:25:57,978 --> 01:26:00,954 Believing you are god? 1506 01:26:00,956 --> 01:26:03,215 Once he had them in the car... 1507 01:26:03,242 --> 01:26:05,108 They were his. 1508 01:26:05,227 --> 01:26:07,644 I was not done with him. 1509 01:26:07,763 --> 01:26:09,872 I'm not letting this guy get away with it. 1510 01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:11,582 It was the game. 1511 01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:14,667 It was like the perfect murder every time. 1512 01:26:14,669 --> 01:26:17,212 How am I ever going to get back on track? 111548

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