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We packed Auschwitz
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10,000 of us, 11,000
of us packed Auschwitz
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We were there marching
out, alive, with survivors.
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We were in Auschwitz
and in Birkenau.
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It really was the death
march that they made.
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The people in Auschwitz
taken to Birkenau to march
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to their deaths.
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It was very important for me
to be able to see what I saw it,
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and I heard people
that went throught it
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I remember many years
ago, younger people
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never heard of the Holocaust.
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It was amazing, that from
all corners of the Earth,
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children came to see the place
that this biggest tragedy
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probably the whole human
civilization took place.
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It is my life duty to educate and
to let the kids learn about it
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because I know that I am the
last of those that
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are still alive
who can relate what happened.
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The essence of the March of the Living
is education.
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20 years, we are marching.
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More than one hundred
thousand kids.
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The idea was to bring people
to Poland visiting Majdanek,
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in Auschwitz, in
Birkenau, in Treblinka.
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Then, from here,
going to Israel.
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The real birth of
the Jewish people.
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To come to see a vibrant country,
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exactly the opposite of death.
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Suddenly, they understand
where they come from, who they are.
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These are not only sightseers,
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these were witnesses to history.
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But what will happen in
the future?
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When all the survivors
are gone?
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How will the youth
handle the challenge?
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The Los Angeles delegation of
the 2008 March of the Living,
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who are marching into history
to reverse the death marches.
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We are 158 people strong
with 8 incredible survivors
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We are joining 10,000 Jewish
people in Israel and in Poland.
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We are the last generation
to hear the story first-hand.
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The March of the Living
and the timing,
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you know, end of senior year
before you go off to college
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it's finding out who you are,
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especially my connection to Judaism.
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Because I also think my
belief in God
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really drifted away
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when we started learning
more about the Holocaust
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We're not religious.
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We eat Chinese food every Friday
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that's our Shabbat.
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I've never been to Poland
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I've never seen any
concentration camp before.
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I guess it is hard because
you live in a world,
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you know, media, the things are
always caught on camera,
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and, you know, the internet,
things like that,
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you can see everything and you
can find everything, but because
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it happened so long ago, it
is so disconnected from now.
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I can't even imagine what
happened to them,
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what the survivors saw
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The Vespa makes
me feel young
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I like to drive around
this neighborhood
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It is pretty calm, I'm not
going to the freeway with it,
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and on Sundays sometimes I am going to the
shopping center and back.
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I enjoy the ride on a motorcycle.
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I used to ride the big ones,
in my younger years.
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Blue is my favorite color.
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I live in California,
it's a light color,
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so I think is the right choice.
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When you go in the morning
to the shower,
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and you see the number,
you know, this is real
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When the children were small
and, you know,
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we didn't want to involve the kids,
nothing with that kind of scenario.
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So I told them it was
my telephone number
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and I shouldn't forget it,
so I marked on my hand.
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I lost my youth.
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I was 13 years old.
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We had a very nice life as
children in Berlin,
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and Hitler came into the picture
and changed our lives.
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Let's see what we have
in the refrigerator.
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We have to have lunch pretty soon.
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When friends of mine were
selected,
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they knew where they going.
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They said to me:
"Sigi, please,
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"if you survive...
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you tell the story."
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Well, I try.
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That was: I love coffee, I love tea,
I love boys and they love me.
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I learned that in
Poland, when I was 11.
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I always wanted to be a
pianist since I was small,
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but the world broke out
when I was 8 years old.
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I remember as it was
happening right now.
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My sister said: "Now you go
to school with Polish children."
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And I begged her: "I don't
want to go, they still hate us."
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And, one boy points to
my face: "You scabby Jew!"
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I hit him in the nose.
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And I hit him again with my
left hand, I broke his nose.
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Zoe! Down! Sit.
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The kids tell me never
to say old, to say young
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So, I am saying
I am 77 years young
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and they laugh
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because everybody says
I don't look like it.
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Hold your breath!
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You have to say a vegetable!
You have to say a color!
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Blue pickle.
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We're the Balkans.
We're from the Balkans.
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What are those things down there?
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No, there!
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It is a whale! Wow!
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A whale, like right here.
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There is one girl,
when I was in the 7th grade,
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she was in the 8th, she'd just
randomly walk up to people
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in the hall and: "Are you Jewish?"
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And people'd be like: "Yeah!" And she be
like "I hate Jews. They should all die"
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And then just walk away.
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My mom is full Japanese and
my father Caucasian
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So, I am half and half,
and I am Jewish.
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You guys, it is 45 degrees
in Poland right now.
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What's the time difference
in Poland to the Pacific?
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It is 10 or 9,
something like that.
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It doesn't matter, Going from
Poland to Israel is not big deal.
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I have gone to public
school for my whole life.
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But, in the middle of the 9th grade,
I just decided I couldn't handle it anymore.
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I would never say
that I was Jewish.
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If people ask me,
I sometimes even say:
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"Well you know, my mom is Christian
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I celebrated Christmas growing up."
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It's funny, cause I have
Jewish friends
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that go to Catholic schools,
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but I don't know any Catholics or
Christians that go to a Jewish school.
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I am kind of the token Asian
at my school and, then every
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now and then, they'll
point that I am Jewish.
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But, they're all
Jewish, too, so.
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I have to buy more
than this for our trip.
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I want to go on the march because
my family is from Poland.
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I'll never be able to ge out of my mind
associating Poland with the Holocaust.
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So, I am blonde hair, blue and
green eyes, they changes colors.
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I just don't look Jewish
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So, I could have probably survived
the Holocaust, looking like this.
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I'm almost the perfect Aryan, so
ha on Hitler's face, there are jews like me
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Every morning,
I do calisthenics,
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I jog for about 18 minutes
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if I don't exercise I don't feel
as good as when I do exercise.
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Probably the first 55 years I never
talked to anybody about it,
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including my immediate family.
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My sister was
taken to Auschwitz, I wasn't.
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He was already
in hiding when they took us.
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My mother, father and
four sibblings did not survive.
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All of us went, and I am
the only one who came back
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But, probably the last time
that I'll have a chance to go
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to Poland to see
my family perished.
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And I hope I have the
chance to say Kaddish in Auschwitz.
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I admire him for the
being willing to go.
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I refused to go.
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Come on you, guys!
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Come on you, guys!
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Thank you.
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We arrive right now in Krakow,
the reason that the Nazis set up
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the concentration camps here
in Poland was because this
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was where 3 million Jews lived.
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Poland. I don't know
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I thought it was a
beautiful country.
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It was just all green, all farms,
little cottages on hills,
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it was really pretty.
It still beautiful, there
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you don't want it to be beautiful
in Auschwitz
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The train tracks, that's
where everyone came in from,
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everyone was just brought in through
a cattle-car, on those train tracks.
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My grandmother was on a train
to Auschwitz with her family,
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and partisans blew up the tracks.
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I was 10 when I got there.
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I turned 11 in Auschwitz.
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Only years after the war.
I've always been told,
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"What do you know?
You were a kid!"
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"You are a child, that's it."
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I say that silence
is not an option.
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It is not an option.
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It's huge.
That is so scary.
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WORK SETS YOU FREE.
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There is no, not just older now.
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It's now the Hilton Hotel.
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Everything is beautifully tired.
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And it is really upsetting!
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I can't make up my
mind, what do I want?
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Do I want it to be a museum
or I want it to be deserted?
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I think I want anything that
helps people to understand.
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WORK SETS YOU FREE.
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I think because I was a
teenager,
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I never gave up hope that
I would survive
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When the Germans
came in, I was 15,
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and we were put into the ghettos
and we had to wear the yellow star.
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I never heard of the place Auschwitz,
even though I was an A student.
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What's interesting for a 15
year old is the confusion,
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when we arrived to Auschwitz
we had no idea,
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was happening. And that was of course
the tricks that the Nazis played.
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It's so easy to forget like
we forget many other things.
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And that there is a real
danger about that.
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On the fence, there was a ditch,
right next to the fence.
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That was for that purpose,
that when you electrocuted yourself,
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you could fall in and once a day
they came to pick up the death.
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The dead bodies.
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My sister, she was taken in
and she was here 2 weeks.
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And then she was experimented
on in the block 19.
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17, 18 and 19
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Auschwitz, was like:
"This is so pretty."
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Like this could be a
college campus.
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That's so wrong.
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This is walking through
thinking "what would this look like?"
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And the sad thing is that in my
imagination, it is in black and white.
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I can't imagine
this being in color.
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Like, this actually happened.
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They put the number first.
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And the name, second.
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1,6 million died
in Auschwitz.
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What did they looked like?
What was going on here?
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Where do people live?
Where was everything?
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And I guess it's kind of
hard but you definetly
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had to use your imagination.
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I guess because you're Jewish,
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you pay attention to the
Jewish side of the Holocaust.
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When they show that the
prisoner had to wear badges,
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you know, a plaque, gay,
gipsy, whatever, you know,
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you are not Aryan and
you could have died.
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Oh, my God!
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That woman's 33 years old
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I think that's the worst
thing that could have happened.
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You could have blonde hair and
blue eyes and say, you know
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what if I spoke up? Then I could have
been killed, it's not just a Jewish thing.
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The Holocaust has always been something
I couldn't really comprehend,
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it was shocking,
people of my age,
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they had great futures
ahead of them,
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they were
just murdered brutally,
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it's just terrifying to think that
people can be so heartless to do that.
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The photo was right after
the liberation and one of
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those kids was actually Paula,
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and that was where everything
made real to me
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That's me, yes.
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This is Paula, when
she was liberated
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I was born in a small town
just a few hours away from here.
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And it was called
Ostroviets
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I was one of the six
children, the youngest.
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They kept us in those
wagons for 2 days.
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The men had to go to the
left and the women to the right.
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I don't remember whether
I said goodbye to my father.
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I never saw him again.
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00:30:35,865 --> 00:30:38,276
And I remember my mother
standing behind me and
242
00:30:38,316 --> 00:30:43,115
saying, don't forget to
tell them you are 14.
243
00:30:44,601 --> 00:30:49,110
It seemed to have been the
magic number for workers.
244
00:30:49,516 --> 00:30:52,248
My memory, of
course, it's faded.
245
00:30:52,821 --> 00:30:56,532
After 62 years, 63 years,
246
00:30:56,852 --> 00:30:59,695
I don't remember
seeing the sun,
247
00:30:59,735 --> 00:31:05,660
all I remember is seeing the
particles falling from the sky
248
00:31:06,082 --> 00:31:10,225
What I saw, not only because
I was a child,
249
00:31:10,265 --> 00:31:12,507
especially because
I was a child,
250
00:31:12,547 --> 00:31:16,567
it took many years to be
able to talk about it
251
00:31:17,111 --> 00:31:22,155
Going back to a place like
that for me it was like,
252
00:31:22,617 --> 00:31:24,215
I didn't dream at up.
253
00:34:32,408 --> 00:34:35,491
The gas chamber. You could see
the scratch marks on the wall.
254
00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:40,095
You could see where people were scratching
for their lives trying to find a way out.
255
00:34:40,135 --> 00:34:42,898
And they walked in
to get a shower,
256
00:34:42,938 --> 00:34:46,341
and you know, this was the end of
so many people lives,
257
00:34:46,381 --> 00:34:48,077
and I'm standing
on the same ground
258
00:34:48,376 --> 00:34:50,578
That people could have been
my family members.
259
00:34:54,668 --> 00:34:56,045
I don't wanna walk in
the crematorium.
260
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:58,311
I don't wanna walk through the
showers, but you know,
261
00:34:58,352 --> 00:35:02,315
how many people had the
opportunity to walk in there,
262
00:35:02,355 --> 00:35:03,756
and walk out alive?
263
00:35:33,825 --> 00:35:36,340
- How old are you?
- Sixty.
264
00:35:37,547 --> 00:35:39,509
When the survivors talk,
265
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:40,910
they talk about their family.
266
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:44,674
What happened to them,
what they saw,
267
00:35:44,713 --> 00:35:47,476
and you hear Paula's story,
or Helena's story,
268
00:35:47,516 --> 00:35:49,238
that's just one
person's story.
269
00:35:49,278 --> 00:35:52,881
There are 6 million
other stories, like this
270
00:35:53,366 --> 00:35:55,947
It makes it so much more real.
271
00:36:19,065 --> 00:36:23,350
You can't drive til you're 18. They can drink
when they're 18, and drive when they're 18.
272
00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:26,108
It sucksi
273
00:36:28,895 --> 00:36:32,357
Do you know any
Polish pop musicians?
274
00:36:32,676 --> 00:36:34,359
No
275
00:36:34,399 --> 00:36:38,615
And you think that these peoples's
grandparents, where were they during the war?
276
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,327
What do they know? Do they know that
Auschwitz is 3 miles down the road?
277
00:36:44,488 --> 00:36:46,129
Hold on.
278
00:36:46,530 --> 00:36:48,612
The history of that
country is terrifying to me.
279
00:36:49,045 --> 00:36:51,240
What happened there I don't
think is their fault,
280
00:36:51,265 --> 00:36:53,511
I don't know whose
fault it is,
281
00:36:53,536 --> 00:36:56,339
it is a terifying place
as a Jew to go back to
282
00:36:56,379 --> 00:37:00,447
What you have to
relive while you're there.
283
00:37:53,591 --> 00:37:56,177
I was here almost 2 years.
284
00:37:58,330 --> 00:38:00,852
Each house had 1000 people.
285
00:38:00,877 --> 00:38:05,281
Nine hundred, two
thousand people indoors.
286
00:38:05,321 --> 00:38:08,004
They counted everybody.
287
00:38:08,044 --> 00:38:12,172
They came out and counted, and we
spent almost half the night outside.
288
00:38:15,971 --> 00:38:20,455
When I arrived at the camp,
they opened the train,
289
00:38:20,495 --> 00:38:22,737
it looked to me like a circus.
290
00:38:22,777 --> 00:38:26,861
All those people with stripes.
291
00:38:27,351 --> 00:38:33,667
When you come from the civilization
into something dark.
292
00:38:33,707 --> 00:38:37,275
We were about 1200 people
from those trains.
293
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:42,435
And we were chosen, 13 people.
The rest were taken away.
294
00:38:42,475 --> 00:38:46,465
We went in through the barber, through
the shower, and then the number.
295
00:38:46,988 --> 00:38:51,293
Of course we were asking "Where
are the rest of the people?"
296
00:38:51,598 --> 00:38:54,686
So, to the window, they showed us.
"Do you see the fire?"
297
00:38:54,726 --> 00:38:56,367
"Those big chimneys?"
298
00:38:56,408 --> 00:38:58,690
"This is where they
are coming out."
299
00:39:06,937 --> 00:39:08,440
It doesn't feel good
300
00:39:08,924 --> 00:39:10,901
It's creepy. It's so creepy.
301
00:39:12,662 --> 00:39:16,068
One day we hear that
somebody from somewhere
302
00:39:16,093 --> 00:39:20,589
managed to smuggle
apples into the ghetto.
303
00:39:20,629 --> 00:39:27,716
My dad went to get the apple
and he never came back.
304
00:39:27,756 --> 00:39:33,299
We were about ten of us across,
on this wood with one blanket.
305
00:39:35,354 --> 00:39:42,985
But it was winter time, and we were
standing barefoot for hours on ice.
306
00:39:43,414 --> 00:39:48,134
And somebody comes over everyday and says
one to the right and one to the left.
307
00:39:49,856 --> 00:39:52,979
Did people talk?
Or was everyone separate?
308
00:39:53,019 --> 00:39:56,142
There weren't many subjects
we were discussing.
309
00:39:56,181 --> 00:39:58,361
The only thing that was
important was to get food in
310
00:39:58,386 --> 00:40:02,586
your stomach and survive
through the next day
311
00:40:03,588 --> 00:40:07,792
Holocaust means in
Hebrew "Burnt offering".
312
00:40:08,181 --> 00:40:11,516
Because people were
actually burned.
313
00:40:11,806 --> 00:40:14,585
And as long as the survivors
are here,
314
00:40:14,610 --> 00:40:16,921
and that is not going to
be for very long,
315
00:40:17,223 --> 00:40:20,364
there will be nobody to ask
questions.
316
00:40:20,404 --> 00:40:27,192
So, it is very important, that this a march
to learn a lot about themselves.
317
00:41:09,849 --> 00:41:12,651
I will just tell you the
story of this swimming pool,
318
00:41:12,691 --> 00:41:15,734
because we are standing here.
319
00:41:15,774 --> 00:41:21,139
One day, we were taken to a
baths, and it was hot,
320
00:41:21,179 --> 00:41:22,900
hot, in the middle of the day.
321
00:41:23,427 --> 00:41:26,023
And I see this swimming pool.
322
00:41:26,568 --> 00:41:27,985
And it was a mirage
323
00:41:28,411 --> 00:41:31,668
I was 16 years old
and I didn't think,
324
00:41:31,708 --> 00:41:33,670
I just got
out of the line,
325
00:41:33,710 --> 00:41:38,366
dove in, and swam across the pool,
came out on the other side.
326
00:41:39,499 --> 00:41:40,997
My mother had
a heart attack.
327
00:41:41,037 --> 00:41:45,054
Everybody thought
I would be killed on the spot.
328
00:41:46,858 --> 00:41:48,123
And I wasn't
329
00:41:48,163 --> 00:41:51,006
I wasn't killed and my mother,
of course,
330
00:41:51,046 --> 00:41:53,476
told me I was foolish, but...
331
00:41:55,585 --> 00:42:00,094
Every time we talk a
little bit is lifted up.
332
00:42:00,134 --> 00:42:03,778
So, I wanted to celebrate
my birthday with you
333
00:42:19,843 --> 00:42:21,914
May you have many more years.
334
00:46:56,810 --> 00:47:01,062
My favorite band? Kiss and then
Pantera, and then we got Opeth.
335
00:47:01,087 --> 00:47:03,289
On the bus ride back from
the camp,
336
00:47:03,329 --> 00:47:07,389
the music defintely helped me to relax
and think about of what I saw.
337
00:47:11,016 --> 00:47:12,961
- We're going to Treblinka, right?
- Yeah.
338
00:47:12,986 --> 00:47:14,394
Any other survivors from there?
339
00:47:14,419 --> 00:47:15,929
No Treblinka was just a death camp.
340
00:47:15,954 --> 00:47:19,395
Oh, wow.
341
00:47:20,016 --> 00:47:22,867
One lady she was an
18 year old Polish Catholic,
342
00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:26,344
who hid 12 Jews in the basement
of a Nazi office's house.
343
00:47:26,369 --> 00:47:27,872
For about 2 years.
344
00:47:28,225 --> 00:47:30,889
She was amazing, she wans't
Jewish, she was Catholic.
345
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:32,731
She didn't have, she didn't know any...
346
00:47:32,998 --> 00:47:35,599
Not everybody was forced, you
weren't forced to be a Nazi.
347
00:47:36,030 --> 00:47:39,842
Like the current Pope,
was a Nazi.
348
00:47:40,109 --> 00:47:42,303
When I've found this out, I flipped.
349
00:47:44,780 --> 00:47:46,368
What was your faith like?
350
00:47:46,408 --> 00:47:49,411
I thought I lost God, but
after talking to him,
351
00:47:49,436 --> 00:47:51,773
I realized I really didn't
completely.
352
00:47:52,273 --> 00:47:55,336
I was always hoping to
find the rest of my family.
353
00:47:55,733 --> 00:47:58,452
That's the only thing
that kept me alive
354
00:48:00,726 --> 00:48:02,415
- Any more questions?
- I will...
355
00:48:07,721 --> 00:48:09,362
Wow, it's pretty here.
356
00:48:30,862 --> 00:48:32,330
Where, where do you see?
357
00:48:32,665 --> 00:48:34,027
I guess right here.
358
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:36,298
Oh, it says the 20th July 1942.
359
00:48:36,323 --> 00:48:38,534
- Oh, oh, I see.
- So it was right at the beginning.
360
00:48:38,588 --> 00:48:40,235
I was only nine.
361
00:48:40,266 --> 00:48:44,415
I had braids and blue eyes
362
00:48:44,891 --> 00:48:47,295
He looked into my face,
he thought I was Polish.
363
00:48:47,930 --> 00:48:49,506
The Nazi saved me.
364
00:48:49,961 --> 00:48:55,191
On the 19 of August, and
this is where my parents went
365
00:48:55,231 --> 00:49:01,757
They were burned and the ashes
were thrown into the forest.
366
00:49:02,124 --> 00:49:03,845
That's why they
grow so beautiful.
367
00:49:34,784 --> 00:49:38,910
Treblinka is where my
two sisters were taken.
368
00:49:39,288 --> 00:49:44,609
It's just unreal to bring
almost a million people
369
00:49:44,765 --> 00:49:48,279
to a beautiful place like that.
370
00:49:48,578 --> 00:49:54,565
I never went there, and that's
where I wanted to go desperately.
371
00:49:55,265 --> 00:49:57,647
It was like finishing something.
372
00:49:57,687 --> 00:50:02,492
I can finally say good
bye to my sisters.
373
00:50:09,058 --> 00:50:13,302
- Each stone, has a name.
- Ostrviwiec
374
00:50:13,342 --> 00:50:15,303
O - S - T - R
375
00:50:15,344 --> 00:50:16,985
Ostrviwiec.
376
00:50:20,943 --> 00:50:22,544
It starts with an O.
377
00:50:26,674 --> 00:50:28,075
Is that it?
378
00:50:28,115 --> 00:50:33,687
No. It is O, S, T,
R, V, I, W, I, E, C.
379
00:50:34,011 --> 00:50:35,973
Ostrviwiec.
380
00:50:38,605 --> 00:50:40,006
I will help you find it.
381
00:50:40,086 --> 00:50:41,687
Okay.
382
00:51:27,204 --> 00:51:33,094
And they were 18 years old, and 16.
383
00:51:33,571 --> 00:51:35,853
The prime of their lives.
384
00:51:38,299 --> 00:51:41,581
Have everything to live for.
385
00:51:45,065 --> 00:51:47,362
I was not supposed
to survive.
386
00:51:47,387 --> 00:51:50,190
They were strong and young.
387
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:52,472
And here I am.
388
00:51:52,512 --> 00:51:55,949
They denied me my family.
389
00:51:57,255 --> 00:52:00,058
And they denied
them, their life.
390
00:52:07,941 --> 00:52:09,462
What do you wish for that?
391
00:52:09,487 --> 00:52:13,451
For the Nazis, for those who
did this to your sisters
392
00:52:13,930 --> 00:52:15,203
I don't know
393
00:52:16,438 --> 00:52:19,188
I wish they could feel
the feeling, right now
394
00:52:46,056 --> 00:52:47,478
It's so cruel.
395
00:53:02,860 --> 00:53:06,579
I was walking and I was like, my
feet hurt, but I am wearing shoes.
396
00:53:06,619 --> 00:53:09,828
I'm lucky,
I can't complain if my feet hurt.
397
00:53:10,601 --> 00:53:13,139
I remember saying like:
"I'm starving."
398
00:53:13,164 --> 00:53:17,989
You know, I am just kinda hungry,
I could deal with this, I'm not starving.
399
00:53:18,029 --> 00:53:21,112
It puts it all
into perspection.
400
00:53:21,137 --> 00:53:22,758
Perspective!
401
00:53:47,230 --> 00:53:51,603
In Majdanek, my uncle,
his wife and 3 children,
402
00:53:51,628 --> 00:53:53,877
they were all shot to death.
403
00:53:53,902 --> 00:53:57,145
The feeling was awful just
seeing the monuments,
404
00:53:57,185 --> 00:54:01,349
it was like going to cemetery
without markers.
405
00:54:01,813 --> 00:54:05,047
But, you do know that
your family perish there.
406
00:54:05,556 --> 00:54:08,399
And all I can identify are the ashes.
407
00:54:37,876 --> 00:54:40,213
It looks like a little kitchen.
408
00:54:50,018 --> 00:54:55,678
It's just a room, a hundred feet down, full
of shoes, from the floor to the ceiling.
409
00:54:55,718 --> 00:55:00,391
It's the most little mundane thing, when
youthink: "Oh yeah, people wear shoes".
410
00:55:00,416 --> 00:55:04,406
But when you see, shoes of
thousand of people that died.
411
00:55:04,446 --> 00:55:07,698
It's one of those things,
that you can't ignore it.
412
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,388
- Whoa, there's a deer,
- Oh, my God.
413
00:55:33,413 --> 00:55:35,683
There's a deer that
just ran through
414
00:56:39,459 --> 00:56:44,949
He wrote us a letter that they
were having here a soccer club playing,
415
00:56:44,974 --> 00:56:49,967
orchestras playing, and the work isn't
as hard as they thought it would be.
416
00:56:51,459 --> 00:56:52,744
All phony.
417
00:56:53,365 --> 00:56:54,466
They made him write it.
418
00:56:54,959 --> 00:56:58,646
And I just found out now
when he perish
419
00:56:58,671 --> 00:57:00,610
because I see the date there.
420
00:57:01,123 --> 00:57:05,556
It's unbeliveble that innocent
people just driven in to their deaths.
421
00:57:06,164 --> 00:57:10,318
The eternal question is
always will to be: "why?"
422
00:57:12,965 --> 00:57:14,927
I don't think anybody
has an answer.
423
01:00:08,281 --> 01:00:12,766
Let us now unite our
house and joins our hands here.
424
01:00:12,806 --> 01:00:18,170
With sound of the Shofar
We will begin our March.
425
01:01:08,863 --> 01:01:12,580
Our Torah teacher says:
not to hate, but to remember.
426
01:01:12,620 --> 01:01:16,824
Because there too many that
say it never happened.
427
01:01:16,864 --> 01:01:20,827
And I tell them, that faith
and hope and strength
428
01:01:21,148 --> 01:01:24,453
are the three major things
that made me survive.
429
01:01:29,996 --> 01:01:35,000
This was called the March of the Living
in contrast with the Death March.
430
01:01:35,376 --> 01:01:37,898
And that we need to
celebrate our lives,
431
01:01:37,923 --> 01:01:43,288
and that doesn't take away from
our sorrow and our loss.
432
01:01:43,812 --> 01:01:47,532
As long as we are able
to experience both.
433
01:02:21,666 --> 01:02:23,876
The march in Jerusalem was
completely different.
434
01:02:23,901 --> 01:02:28,098
It was all celebration,
as opposed to memorializing things.
435
01:02:28,286 --> 01:02:30,511
This is us after the Holocaust.
436
01:02:30,536 --> 01:02:33,566
We are surviving, now we're
in Israel surrounded by
437
01:02:33,591 --> 01:02:36,919
millions of Jewish people
celebrating lsrael's birthday.
438
01:02:36,958 --> 01:02:40,379
So, it really was a great
contrast to the trip
439
01:02:49,245 --> 01:02:52,048
Look what these people
created, look how they rose
440
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:54,672
out of the ashes, this
is what happened.
441
01:02:55,055 --> 01:02:57,379
They built Israel,
they created a country.
442
01:05:44,146 --> 01:05:48,630
You know, I'd seen the result of
some of the worst anger and hatred
443
01:05:48,670 --> 01:05:51,393
in the history of the world.
444
01:05:51,963 --> 01:05:53,866
Some of my friends
in school ask me why
445
01:05:53,891 --> 01:05:55,656
I would put myself in a situation where
446
01:05:55,733 --> 01:05:57,173
I would have to
face those things.
447
01:05:57,198 --> 01:06:01,177
But I think once you face
it, that's when you become
448
01:06:01,202 --> 01:06:03,631
someone who is a little more
able to live in the world.
449
01:06:03,656 --> 01:06:07,772
And had a greater
understanding of life.
450
01:06:12,483 --> 01:06:14,692
Previoulsy, I wanted
to hide my past,
451
01:06:14,717 --> 01:06:18,377
not only for other people,
but for myself.
452
01:06:18,928 --> 01:06:22,061
After going to Auschwitz,
all the stories came back,
453
01:06:22,101 --> 01:06:27,065
and I think about it
probably everyday now.
454
01:06:27,105 --> 01:06:31,249
Where I did not think about it before.
Didn't talk about it before
455
01:06:34,855 --> 01:06:39,524
And now, wherever I go and anybody
talks to me about it, I open up.
456
01:06:44,081 --> 01:06:46,002
You know, people ask
how the trip was,
457
01:06:46,042 --> 01:06:48,845
nothing puts it into words.
458
01:06:49,508 --> 01:06:50,837
The things like being there.
459
01:06:50,862 --> 01:06:56,719
And walking in the concentration camps,
being in Israel, being with the survivors,
460
01:07:02,913 --> 01:07:07,622
Like my kids aren't gonna get to go
there listen to the survivors talk.
461
01:07:36,904 --> 01:07:40,547
The young people from today
should appreciate what they have,
462
01:07:40,572 --> 01:07:44,535
the home, food on
the table, school.
463
01:07:44,575 --> 01:07:52,608
I can only say: our
hope is not yet lost.
464
01:07:54,842 --> 01:07:58,428
It's their job now to
carry it on.
465
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,403
and I often feel like maybe
I should stop talking
466
01:08:02,428 --> 01:08:05,271
about the Holocaust
and pay more attention
467
01:08:05,296 --> 01:08:10,060
to Darfur, or some other attrocities
that are happening now.
468
01:08:10,085 --> 01:08:16,835
But I think our story will help
people to understand what can happen.
469
01:08:23,704 --> 01:08:26,787
I think that with this
generation,
470
01:08:26,812 --> 01:08:30,993
there is more hope which
make them become aware of
471
01:08:31,018 --> 01:08:33,602
the suffering
of other people.
472
01:08:35,196 --> 01:08:39,123
I voiced my opinion when
it comes to Darfur, any injustice
473
01:08:39,148 --> 01:08:42,596
that I hear about or
know about for a fact, I voice it
474
01:08:42,621 --> 01:08:44,089
I'll send email to
the White House.
475
01:08:44,114 --> 01:08:45,613
And sure, they don't read all of it,
476
01:08:45,638 --> 01:08:47,996
but the more numbers they
get, that means people care.
477
01:08:52,633 --> 01:08:53,754
How's Israel?
478
01:08:53,787 --> 01:08:57,056
- I now know more people than you.
- Probably.
479
01:08:57,654 --> 01:09:00,106
I think I need to
go back to Israel.
480
01:09:00,131 --> 01:09:02,934
I think it's a good place
for me to go, right now, and
481
01:09:02,959 --> 01:09:06,570
so, I'm going to be a student
at Herbrew University.
482
01:09:07,247 --> 01:09:11,996
When people mention something
that's false or just really ignorant,
483
01:09:12,021 --> 01:09:14,777
I have the confidence
to actually say
484
01:09:14,802 --> 01:09:19,326
I went to a concentration camp and
I stood in the gas chamber like
485
01:09:19,351 --> 01:09:21,840
don't tell me whatever you are telling me,
486
01:09:21,865 --> 01:09:24,029
because I know it is not
true, because I was there.
487
01:09:25,467 --> 01:09:30,832
My family, I wrote a letter to
them, as if they were alive.
488
01:09:31,232 --> 01:09:36,222
How I imagine they
suffered, the last breath they took
489
01:09:36,295 --> 01:09:39,079
in the gas chamber of Auschwitz.
490
01:09:39,502 --> 01:09:45,325
I wrote them the letter that
I'm very sorry that I could not save them.
491
01:09:46,127 --> 01:09:48,488
And I left it there.
492
01:09:49,355 --> 01:09:50,996
And I hope they answer.
493
01:10:14,607 --> 01:10:17,569
So many times,
I wonder why am I alive?
494
01:10:17,594 --> 01:10:22,666
And so many times, my parents,
even though they are dead,
495
01:10:22,691 --> 01:10:28,517
67 and a half years, in my mind
they are still alive and in my heart,
496
01:10:28,777 --> 01:10:30,058
my whole family.
497
01:10:30,083 --> 01:10:32,245
And I see them in my
dreams, very often.
498
01:10:32,270 --> 01:10:35,353
So they are really
alive for me.
499
01:10:35,393 --> 01:10:37,885
This is Dorothy Greenstein.
500
01:10:41,318 --> 01:10:44,197
It was kind of a little
quick mention one day;
501
01:10:44,222 --> 01:10:46,123
the survivors never
got a graduate.
502
01:10:46,163 --> 01:10:48,160
They should
graduate with us.
503
01:10:49,005 --> 01:10:51,808
For the most part most of them,
didn't graduate from high school
504
01:10:51,848 --> 01:10:55,491
because, they were 11-12
when it happened.
505
01:11:06,941 --> 01:11:10,865
Hopefully, there won't
be anymore Holocaust.
506
01:11:10,905 --> 01:11:14,625
Even though it's happening right
now in other parts of the world.
507
01:11:17,484 --> 01:11:19,393
Hope.
508
01:11:19,433 --> 01:11:25,038
I am hoping for the new
generations to change that.
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