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Precious died very soon
after your last meeting.
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Is there anything
that you can tell us
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that would help us with that?
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No, sorry.
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My sense is there's more to that
than he's admitting.
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He left because
of some inappropriate photos
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he took of a colleague.
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Do you wanna tell me why?
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He said that
you and he were finished.
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Here we are, nine months on,
with no hint of a wedding in sight.
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Precious was a member of a cult -
The Family Of Blessed Light.
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See what you can find out
about them. On it.
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You got a lot to lose, man.
Who are you really, Joseph?
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I can't work like this.
This is not who I am, or how I work.
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Let's reset.
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If I were to decide
to bring things forward,
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how much notice would you need?
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'All We Do'
by Oh Wonder
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# All we do is hide away
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# All we do is
All we do is hide away
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# All we do is lie in wait
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# All we do is
All we do is lie in wait
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# I've been upside down
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# I don't want to be
The right way round
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# Can't find paradise
On the ground. #
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Hi. This is Llagavelly Farm?
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It is. How can I help you?
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DS Murray Boulting.
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Metropolitan Police.
I'm looking for David Bell.
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What is it you need to know?
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Maybe I can help?
Is he here?
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If you'd like to follow me.
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You're not 21 any more, Tony Hume.
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You need to slow down.
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That was me slowing down.
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A boozy break from work.
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Well, exactly.
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You shouldn't need a break from work
because you shouldn't be working.
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What are you even
still trying to prove?
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I don't know.
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I just know the older I get,
the more I see the mistakes.
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The things I didn't achieve.
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The wrongs I did.
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Oh, what wrongs?
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You haven't done any wrongs.
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Not proper ones, anyway.
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Well, I have, love.
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Decades of them.
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You did what you thought was
the right thing at the time and...
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Not just politics.
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There were other things I never...
I don't want to hear, Tony.
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We all have things
we wish we'd done differently.
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That's life.
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We move on.
We don't live in the past.
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So, is this anything to do
with Precious Falade?
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The only trouble we ever had here
was with Precious.
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We're all sinners, right?
But Precious...
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What? "Thou shalt have
no other gods before me."
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I'm not with you.
Mammon, DS Boulting.
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That's who she betrayed him for.
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God of money.
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Right.
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She was 15 when he got her pregnant.
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He was 42, your dear leader.
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He's right there.
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He was here for a couple of nights,
and then he left.
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Have you tried his work?
Yeah. They said he was off sick.
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Oh.
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He's in there, isn't he?
Jess, he's not.
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Steve, are you in there?
Please...
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If he's in there, Nick,
I swear to f...
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Jess... calm down.
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I am calm. Totally calm.
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Did he tell you
he was fucking my sister?
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Just in case you were thinking
of standing up for him.
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He was what?
Just get him to call me.
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You need to leave.
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I thought I'd wait.
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I thought I owed you that.
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You owe me nothing.
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So, what was it...
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when you asked me
to marry you that night?
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A genuine proposal.
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Really?
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Completely.
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Because, sitting here, right now...
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..it slightly feels like
maybe it was just...
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because you were so lost.
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No.
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No. At the time, it...
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..it felt utterly genuine.
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"At the time".
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And now?
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I don't know what's going on, Sal.
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I'm as thrown as you are.
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About where we are. Where I am.
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I feel...
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..so stuck.
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And... lost.
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Yeah.
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Now, certainly.
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And almost the unkindest cut of all
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is that's the most you've said to me
about it in nine months.
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Because I...
I felt you were jealous.
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Right.
Which, as I said, I completely get.
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So... listen.
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Let's not make any decisions
right now.
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But I do need to tell you
how I'm feeling.
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Of course.
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And how I'm feeling is that,
actually, with time,
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I think we could probably
ride this out.
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Probably.
Definitely.
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Except, erm...
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..then I got pregnant.
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And it made me realise
how much I do actually want a baby.
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And how much you don't.
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And that's quite a big thing.
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So I'm gonna go
and stay with my mum.
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We can keep talking, but...
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..I need a break,
to have a bit of a think.
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Of course.
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I'm... so, so sorry, my love.
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Yeah. Me too.
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'Hi, this is Karol,
leave a message.'
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Hi, Karol,
this is DS Frances Lingley again.
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Appreciate it
if you could return my call.
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My colleague DI Khan and I
need to speak with you
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following your earlier interview.
Call me back ASAP, please.
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Bailed?
'Last night.'
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Had some posh lawyer
on his case, apparently.
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OK, er... and to his home address?
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'Hang on. Let me check.'
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Joseph Bell's
apparently been bailed.
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So I'm thinking
if we go to his flat,
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then we might need firearms support?
Oh...
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You wanna call the boss?
Which one?
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Yeah, no,
better to be safe than sorry.
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Yeah, I'll put a call in to TFC.
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OK, thanks, Fran.
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Hey.
Hey, Sunny.
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How you doing?
Er...
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Dreadful.
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Ah.
You?
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My partner left last night,
so, er, same.
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Crap. I'm sorry.
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Well, how about we distract
ourselves with some work?
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I like it.
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Does anyone call you Jessie?
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James, as in Jessie...?
Yeah, no, no. No.
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I get the reference.
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On account of everyone I have met
making the exact same joke.
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Oh, sorry.
The thought just occurred to me.
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Jesus! We're in worse bloody trouble
than I thought.
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Time to go.
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Where we going again?
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Just away from London for now.
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Right.
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And you don't need to worry
about money, babe.
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Money ain't gonna be a problem...
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Armed police!
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Armed police,
face down on the floor, now!
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Put your hands on your head.
Hands behind your head!
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Put your hands on your head.
Stay there!
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Bedroom clear!
Kitchen clear!
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That's my stuff, man,
my personal stuff.
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I never stole none of that, bro,
so look after it, yeah,
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or I'll fuck you up.
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A sugar daddy?
That was Niamh's description.
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Any name?
Just said he was an older man.
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So are we saying
that we think this was Hume?
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That'd explain how Precious
might have had a key to the house.
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This relationship was supposed
to have happened when?
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She said Precious talked about him
the very last time
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she was up at the farm.
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Niamh always assumed
that's why she never came back.
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And we definitively know
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that David Bell did die
three months before the murder?
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Yeah, I checked with Bangor General
on the way back.
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He died on April the 12th, 2016,
of lung cancer.
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Lots to think about there. Er, Kaz?
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So, Joseph Bell's been arrested
at his flat,
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having been bailed two nights ago
with a 10K surety.
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Where's he get that kind of money?
His own sugar daddy.
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And possible motives
for HIM killing her?
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A row that escalated
and could have been precipitated
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by multiple things.
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Drugs, money, her being on the game,
her not being on the game.
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Also, when you look at
the Zoom interviews I did,
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then simple old-fashioned revenge
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starts to look like
a fairly good motive.
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Be good to be able to place him
at the house at some point.
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It's funny you should say that,
because I've been doing
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a bit of record-checking
of Precious's bank statements.
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And started with the assumption
it was unlikely she had no phone,
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and was linking
debit card payments...
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..to possible phone shops,
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newsagents, corner shops, etc,
and, bingo!
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This here.
Sorry.
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Ebele Falade's here, Guv.
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OK, thank you. Go on.
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Yeah, so this is a £30 card payment
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made to a small phone shop in Acton.
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Where did you get it?
Doesn't matter.
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It matters to me.
Same as you telling me
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what the police wanted
to speak to you about matters.
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I've already told you.
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It was an old client of mine
who sadly died,
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and they just wanted
some background on her.
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They couldn't do it in a phone call?
Apparently not.
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It's not my problem.
Can we move on, please?
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Serge spoke to one
of the French officers this morning.
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Explained the situation
with the children,
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that you live with us,
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that you are effectively
their stepfather.
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And they said you were
a person of interest in a murder.
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Which might have a sexual element.
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It's not true, Elise.
You must know that not be true.
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Look at me.
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Look at me.
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You need to leave.
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Please...
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Now, please.
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OK, thank you. Bye, now.
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Boss, have you got a minute?
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I just spoke
to social services again.
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Er, yeah, one sec.
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Guv?
Yeah?
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Erm, so I just spoke to HR
at West London Social Services,
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and they've confirmed Karol Wojski
vehemently denied the allegation,
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but then also refused
to hand his phone over.
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So, he was sacked or resigned?
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It was agreed he could just resign
on mental health grounds,
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with no complaint on his record.
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And when he left,
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another employee came forward
with a similar allegation.
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So, what are we thinking?
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Maybe there was some sort of
sexual misdemeanour with Precious
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that escalated?
OK.
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Make an application for all his
work email correspondence for 2016,
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with particular reference,
obviously, to Precious.
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Guv.
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You all right?
Yes.
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So, my guess is
she'll probably go "no comment".
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So as discussed, the trick'll be
to goad her in to talking. Yep.
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In terms of motive,
we have a row that got out of hand
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about money, or sex work,
or Precious stealing from her.
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Or a row that got out of hand about
how terrible a mother Abele was.
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Or what a terrible daughter
Precious was.
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Spoilt for choice.
Mm.
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So, when we spoke on Tuesday,
you said the last time
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that you saw your daughter
was on her birthday,
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on the 15th of January,
is that correct?
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Yes.
Now showing Ms Falade exhibit EF001.
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Can you confirm
that this mobile number
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was once registered to you?
256
00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,960
No idea.
OK.
257
00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,960
Showing exhibit EF002.
258
00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,960
So, this was the address attached
to the debit card
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that purchased that contract.
260
00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,160
Do you recognise that?
Yes.
261
00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,960
Was that your home address
between March 2014 and May 2015?
262
00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:43,960
Yes.
263
00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,960
So it would be reasonable to assume
that this was your number, right?
264
00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,960
No comment.
OK.
265
00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,960
Here is exhibit EF003.
266
00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,160
Do you recognise that number?
267
00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,960
No.
268
00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,320
OK, so that number was attached
to a pay-as-you-go SIM which we -
269
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through various bank
and telecom records -
270
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have identified as having
been bought by your daughter.
271
00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,960
Here's the thing, Bele.
272
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On the 26th of June, 2016,
the night we think she died,
273
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the number we believe was yours
274
00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,960
called the number
we believe was your daughter's.
275
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,640
Do you have any comment on that?
276
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,960
No.
D'you remember the call?
277
00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:26,960
From six years ago?
278
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The day your daughter died.
279
00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,960
No.
Well, the call happened at 18:27.
280
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It lasted three minutes
and 12 seconds.
281
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No recollection at all?
No.
282
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,960
At 18:24, just before
you called your daughter,
283
00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,960
you also received a call from
an as yet unidentified number.
284
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,960
Do you recall that?
No.
285
00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,960
OK, er, any recollection,
just 12 days before this,
286
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,480
of having a row with her
outside the house where she died?
287
00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,960
What row?
288
00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:02,640
A neighbour called the police,
it was so loud,
289
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,960
and detailed hearing
the younger of the two women
290
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,960
calling her assailant "Mum".
291
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,800
Her assailant?!
I never fucking touched her.
292
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,960
So you were there,
but you never touched her?
293
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,960
No... No comment.
294
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,960
Fine. Moving on.
295
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,960
Can I ask you
why you never mentioned
296
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that Precious had
foetal alcohol spectrum disorder?
297
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,960
Because she didn't.
298
00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,960
All her medical and social service
records say that she did.
299
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,960
Because she told them that she did.
300
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,320
Because she was small
and struggled at school
301
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,960
so wanted someone to blame.
302
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,960
Did you drink while pregnant?
303
00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,960
No. I mean, we know that you have
a history of alcohol issues.
304
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,960
You told us yourself.
Not when I was pregnant.
305
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,320
You see...
306
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,960
..I think you're denying the FASD
307
00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,000
because it had been a source
of huge conflict
308
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,960
between Precious and you, hadn't it?
309
00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,960
No comment.
Which you wanted to keep from us,
310
00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:01,960
that you rowed - often violently -
311
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,960
many, many times
about this very subject.
312
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,960
No comment.
313
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,960
Did you have another row with her
the night of June 26th? No.
314
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,960
Maybe it got out of hand.
She was a volatile woman.
315
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,960
I wasn't even with her.
316
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,480
Maybe you didn't mean to hurt her.
Maybe it was an accident. Look...
317
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,960
I did...
318
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,960
the best I could for her.
319
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,960
And I'm sorry
if that wasn't good enough.
320
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,480
And... if I wasn't good enough.
321
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,480
But I'm confused as to why
322
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,960
she devoted so much of her life
to hating me.
323
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,960
Because, really, what a waste.
324
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,960
And I didn't have
an ideal childhood,
325
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,320
but you move on, don't you?
326
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:54,960
So like I say, I am genuinely sorry
if I failed her.
327
00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:01,960
But I can tell you honestly
that I never hit her.
328
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,960
I never hurt her.
329
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,960
And I certainly never killed her.
330
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:22,960
It happens.
331
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,480
There you go.
Oh, thank you.
332
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,320
What, people shift their views
as they get older?
333
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,960
I mean, generally,
it tends to go the other way,
334
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,000
from left to right.
335
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,960
And it's rarely as complete
as Hume's, but it does happen.
336
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,960
So, he was pretty conservative
originally?
337
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,960
He was a classic Thatcherite
338
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,480
who'd lecture anyone
that would listen.
339
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,960
You didn't spend
what you didn't have.
340
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,960
Basically a version
of her "housewife fallacy".
341
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,000
That you run a country like a home,
don't accumulate debt.
342
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,960
And then?
And then, sometime late 2016,
343
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,640
just six years after he more or less
invented austerity for Osborne,
344
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,960
he declares the opposite.
That, actually, an economy
345
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,960
is profoundly different
from a household,
346
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,960
and we should be borrowing
and spending hugely
347
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:07,960
on public services.
348
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,960
So, does anyone have any idea
what brought this shift around?
349
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:12,960
Not really.
350
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,960
I mean, some people thought
it was his cancer diagnosis in 2014.
351
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,160
OK. Except he was still a vociferous
campaigner for budget cuts
352
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,800
all through his treatment,
so I didn't really buy that.
353
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,960
Huh! Some people
thought it was Brexit,
354
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,000
because he was a Remainer.
355
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,000
There was an argument that austerity
had a part to play in them losing,
356
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,800
but anyone with half a brain
knew that austerity
357
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,960
was just one small part of that,
so...
358
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,960
So?
359
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,960
I think it was a woman.
360
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,800
Deleted?
Sorry.
361
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,960
Is that standard here?
Not at all.
362
00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:03,960
This was all deleted by him,
by Karol Wojski.
363
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,960
So when you say deleted...?
Well, exactly.
364
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,960
It depends how tech savvy he was,
because not much is gone forever.
365
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,960
But how much time and money
do you have?
366
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,960
I'll call my boss.
367
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,960
I don't know what you did
or what you didn't do,
368
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,960
but for what it's worth...
369
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,960
..I've always thought of you
as a good guy.
370
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,960
I love you, man.
371
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,320
And he said that he saw him with her
in the spring of 2016
372
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,960
on the pavement
outside Portcullis House,
373
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,960
as Hussein was returning from a run.
374
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,960
How did he know it wasn't
a colleague, or just a friend or...?
375
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,160
Yeah, he said he saw
that they were rowing,
376
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,960
and that there was just something
in the way that they were together
377
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,960
that to him, at least, suggested
it was an intimate relationship.
378
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,000
Did you show him a photo
of Precious?
379
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,960
Yeah. He couldn't say
one way or another on the face,
380
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960
but he did remember
very specifically
381
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,160
that the woman with Hume was petite
382
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,960
and that she was probably mixed-race
or Mediterranean-looking.
383
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,960
OK.
Erm...
384
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,160
And then just one last thing.
385
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,960
As I was researching
his early years,
386
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,960
Wallingham, Cambridge,
the City, etc,
387
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,960
I came across
a rather interesting detail.
388
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,960
Look at the second paragraph down,
under "Early Life".
389
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,960
So, the first company
that Hume worked for,
390
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,960
between 1968 and 1973,
391
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,800
was Morgan Lavelle.
392
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,960
The same company
that Ebele Falade walked into
393
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,960
with an air pistol nine years later.
394
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,960
Oh, man.
395
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,960
Where are we
with finding our doorman?
396
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,640
Er, I've been mainly
prioritising this.
397
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,960
Well, we need to speak
to the doorman ASAP,
398
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,320
because that, Kaz,
that is fucking gold.
399
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,960
'You have one new message.'
400
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,960
'Hi there, this is DS Lingley.
401
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,960
'Thanks for your message,
and great you're back in the UK.
402
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,960
'If you could present yourself
at Bishop Street Police Station,
403
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,480
'NW1, ASAP, please ask for me.
404
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,960
'That would be really helpful.
Thank you.'
405
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,960
So, the owner of the firearm
we think is our murder weapon...
406
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,960
Elton King?
'Yeah.'
407
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,960
We found him.
He's happy to talk to us.
408
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,160
OK, nice one.
Can you set something up tomorrow?
409
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,160
'On it now. Night, boss.'
410
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,960
Night.
411
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,960
And so what we propose
three months out from launch
412
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,960
is that I step away
from the Bath position.
413
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,960
My commis chef is more than ready
to take the reins... Sorry.
414
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,960
You were right.
It's... all just... noise.
415
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,960
I'm... I'm so...
416
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,960
..sorry to have wasted your time.
417
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,160
I...
418
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,800
It was a mistake.
It was my mistake.
419
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,960
I am so sorry.
420
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,000
I'm really sorry. I'll...
421
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,960
I'll be right back.
422
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,960
Bele.
423
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,960
Now, we don't remotely expect you to
tell us where the gun is, Mr King.
424
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,800
All we want to know is
if there is a possibility
425
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,960
that Joseph Bell
could have had access to it
426
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,640
after you were arrested.
427
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,960
I 100% know he had access to it.
428
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,640
OK. How?
429
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,320
Cos it was him that used it
in the robbery, not me.
430
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,960
He was the one with you?
431
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,800
And when I got pulled,
I was happy to take the flak for it,
432
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,480
on the assumption
he'd look after me inside.
433
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,960
Send me shit, look after my lady.
434
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,800
Except I never heard from him again.
So, yeah...
435
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,960
he had access to the gun,
cos I gave it to him.
436
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,960
And you'd be prepared to make
a statement to that effect?
437
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,160
Too fucking right I would.
438
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,000
So, we know the payments came
from a Coombe & Co account.
439
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,960
We just need to know now who,
or what, DSH is.
440
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,960
Except, unfortunately,
441
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,800
I'm not at liberty
to disclose that information.
442
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,960
Oh, I'm sorry. My mistake.
Yes, you are.
443
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,960
My colleague DS Boulting
sent through a disclosure form.
444
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,960
It's the bank's rules, I'm afraid.
445
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,960
We can return with a warrant
446
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,160
and spend a few days
turning the whole place over.
447
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,960
It's your call.
448
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,960
I'll need to speak to my boss.
449
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,960
I'll wait.
450
00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:00,960
When I was 17
and just pregnant with Precious...
451
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,960
I came home from school one day
452
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:09,960
to find that my grandmother had
invited Pastor Muyulu to our house
453
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,160
to perform an exorcism on me.
454
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,960
I refused to cooperate
and fought them both off.
455
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,960
But then when I came back
a few days later...
456
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,000
to get my stuff
before I left for good,
457
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,960
I found my grandfather there
on his own.
458
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,960
He was a strong man still,
only in his early 50s,
459
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,960
and he told me that if we got
rid of it before I started to show,
460
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,960
then I wouldn't shame them
and the community,
461
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,960
like my mum had.
462
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,960
He tied me up
and forced a funnel into my mouth...
463
00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,960
..and poured half a litre of vodka
down me.
464
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,960
Apart from giving me a taste
for the stuff,
465
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,960
whatever he did
over the next couple of hours
466
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,960
obviously didn't work, because...
467
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,000
..Precious survived.
468
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,960
That, and the way
that they raised me,
469
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,960
damaged me for life.
470
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,960
And in here.
471
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,960
The constant sense of shame
and guilt...
472
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,160
..about my mum messed me up.
473
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,960
So the first time I got sober,
in my early 30s...
474
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,960
..I tried to get help.
475
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960
And for a few years, I was lucky.
476
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,640
You know,
the referrals would sometimes get me
477
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,960
an hour of therapy once a week,
for a couple of months.
478
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,960
But then even that dwindled
to waiting lists
479
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,960
and apologies from overworked GPs.
480
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,800
So, you...
481
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,320
you find your own therapy,
don't you?
482
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,960
The drink sometimes.
483
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960
Or love.
484
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,960
The best, I think.
485
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,960
But the... the damage
is still in there.
486
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,960
So, how about I tell you
where we are, what we know.
487
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,960
Showing the suspect exhibit JR1,
488
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,960
a copy of a triangulation document
supplied by KZK Mobile.
489
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,960
So, this document details that on
the 26th of June, 2016, at 18:49,
490
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,960
a phone that we believe
belonged to you
491
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,960
called a phone registered
to your grandmother, Ebele Falade.
492
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,800
That call was connected
via a phone mast
493
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,960
just 200 yards
from 64 Waterman Road.
494
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,480
So basically, what we're saying is,
495
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,960
that on the night
that your mother died,
496
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,960
we can place you in or near the
house in which her body was found.
497
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,160
D'you have any response to that?
498
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,960
No comment.
Did you make that call?
499
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,960
No comment.
Were you there, J?
500
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,960
No comment.
501
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,960
Do you remember Elton King, Joseph?
502
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,960
No comment.
He remembers you.
503
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,960
Not that fondly, I'm sorry to say.
504
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,960
No comment.
505
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,480
That wasn't actually a question,
but thanks for the response.
506
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,960
Did you look after a gun
for Mr King, Joseph?
507
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,320
No comment.
Did you keep it
508
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,960
while he went to prison
for a robbery
509
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,960
that you were also involved in?
No comment.
510
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,960
Did you have it with you
when you went to see your mother
511
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480
on the night of 26th June, 2016?
No comment.
512
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,960
Did you get into a row with her,
Joseph?
513
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,960
No comment.
514
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,960
Because we know things
were difficult between you.
515
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,960
We spoke to many people who looked
after you when you were growing up.
516
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,960
Teachers, social workers,
your foster parent, Alan Barker.
517
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,960
He told us
what your mum put you through,
518
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,480
and I know that she was wrestling
with her own demons, but...
519
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,960
..no child should have to deal with
what you did.
520
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960
The people
that she made you encounter.
521
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,960
The innocence
that was taken away from you.
522
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,960
So we understand if it was a row
that got out of hand
523
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,960
and your anger
got the better of you.
524
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,960
Maybe it was even an accident.
525
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,960
But why don't you tell us
your side of the story?
526
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,960
You don't understand a thing.
527
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,960
Joseph...
And you can shut the fuck up.
528
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,960
So help us.
529
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,000
I'm not Joseph Bell.
530
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,960
I'm sorry?
531
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,960
I'm not Joe.
532
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,960
It's not J for Joseph.
It's J for Jay.
533
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,160
I'm Joe's half-brother.
534
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,960
My birth was never registered.
535
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,160
My mum didn't want me
taken in to care like Joe was.
536
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,960
So... So, what about schools
and healthcare?
537
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,640
I lived between my mum and my dad
till I was 11.
538
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,960
He home-schooled me a bit.
539
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,320
So, how old are you?
21.
540
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,960
So you were 14 when your mum died?
541
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Nearly 15.
542
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,960
And did you go to your dad, then?
543
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,480
No, he died in 2015.
544
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,480
And who was your father?
545
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,800
Eric Royce.
546
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,960
OK. And where did he live?
547
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,960
With, erm... a travelling community.
548
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,960
So, er...
549
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,960
How did you survive in London,
550
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,960
I presume on your own,
from the age of 14?
551
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,960
I did fine. I was already old, man.
552
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,960
I stole. Lived on the streets.
553
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,960
Got jobs in markets,
lived in squats.
554
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,960
Then when I was 16, I...
555
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,480
I adopted my brother's identity
to gain access to his benefits.
556
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,960
OK. Did your brother
not need his identity?
557
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,320
You can leave now.
558
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,960
Jay, I'm here to help...
Leave, bruv.
559
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,960
I'll wait outside.
560
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,960
No.
561
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Why didn't your brother
need his identity?
562
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Did something happen to him, Jay?
563
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,960
Something connected
to the night of the 26th?
564
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,480
There's people out there, man,
565
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,960
who'd wanna hurt me
cos of what I've seen.
566
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,320
So I'm not saying any more.
567
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,960
We wouldn't let that happen.
568
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,960
We wouldn't let anyone hurt you.
569
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,160
Yeah, people used to say that
to Joe.
570
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,960
All day long.
571
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,960
People like you,
telling him he could trust them.
572
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,960
That they'd look after him.
573
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,800
And they were lying.
574
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,960
All of them, man.
575
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,960
All of them.
576
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,960
So I ain't telling you a thing.
577
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,960
'So, good news, bad news.'
578
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,960
The bad news is that all his e-mails
to her have gone from our server.
579
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,960
And I mean properly gone.
He knew what he was doing.
580
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,960
OK. And the good news?
581
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,960
Just because of how and where
our systems store stuff,
582
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,480
there are two from her to him
undeleted,
583
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,960
and I think you'll find them
interesting.
584
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,960
So, this is the first,
585
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,000
as I say, from Precious Falade
to Karol Wojski,
586
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,960
sent on the 26th of June at 14:23.
587
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,960
"Hi, Karol, you left your laptop
here earlier, unlocked.
588
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,960
"Couldn't resist a peek
at your photos.
589
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,960
"Some interesting pics.
590
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,960
"How much would you not want me
to share these with your boss?
591
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,960
"Call or text. I'm here tonight."
592
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,160
And then this is the other one.
593
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,960
And at the bottom here,
594
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,960
you can see his reply
to her first email.
595
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,960
That would be the 27th.
596
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,480
And she just replies, "Bring 2K."
Oh...
597
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,960
There was a laptop logged
on her son's arrest sheet.
598
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,960
So, is it possible to determine
who's this is?
599
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,960
Is it obviously Joe Royce's?
600
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,960
If it is, he's barely used it
in the last few years.
601
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,960
There's no internet history,
no updates, no emails.
602
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,960
So, when you say
the last few years...?
603
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Last real activity was mid-2016.
604
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,960
So this is his mum's.
605
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,960
I think that's pretty likely.
OK.
606
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,960
Also, I need you to find
and download any stored photos,
607
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,960
look for anything, erm, tagged
and nominated to a Karol Wojski.
608
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,960
Right.
Yep.
609
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,960
Yep.
Call me ASAP if you find anything.
610
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,960
Cheers.
611
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,960
His brother?!
'Half.
612
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,960
'At least, that's what he told me.'
613
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,960
There was no bloody brother,
half or otherwise.
614
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,640
I'm just telling you what he said.
615
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,960
'Is he still in there?
616
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,800
'Are they still questioning him?'
Yes.
617
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,960
Look, just try to get him out,
Graham, whoever the hell he is.
618
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,960
And then what?
619
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,960
'Just...
Oh, I've got another call coming in.
620
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:57,960
'Just try to get him out.'
621
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,960
Ben.
'Tony.'
622
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,960
Long time.
'Indeed.'
623
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,960
How are you?
'Er, listen, not a social call.'
624
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,960
Er, we've had a rather unfortunate
incident in the bank today,
625
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,960
involving a police officer
626
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,960
asking about an account you set up
in the late '80s?
627
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Right. And, er...
what did you tell them?
628
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,800
Well, you know I always try
to preserve anonymity, but, er...
629
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,960
..I had to tell them, I'm afraid.
630
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,800
'About both standing orders.'
631
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,960
Fran Lingley.
632
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,960
'Fran, it's Gordy Watson
on the front desk.'
633
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Hey, Gordy, what's up?
634
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,800
'So, I just had the weirdest call
regarding the Precious Falade case.
635
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,960
'Can you come down?'
636
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,160
So, how do we prove
if he's telling the truth?
637
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,480
It's hard.
638
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,800
But DNA from him, his mum,
both his alleged fathers...
639
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,960
Who are both dead, and may not be
on any of our systems.
640
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,960
And how long's that gonna take,
if it's even possible?
641
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,960
Not your problem.
642
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,000
I'm not sure
you're even his brief any more.
643
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,960
And even if he is lying
about who he says he is...
644
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,960
you still have no good evidence
to connect him to your murder.
645
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,960
As I said...
I think you'll find I am his brief,
646
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,960
as soon as I tell him
I can get him bailed.
647
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,640
Guv.
648
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,960
Erm, I need a word.
It's pretty urgent.
649
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,960
We'll get right back to you on that.
650
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,960
And did the caller say
who the body was?
651
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,800
A young man named Joseph Bell.
652
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Jesus.
Yeah.
653
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,960
And I assume the caller
didn't say who he was?
654
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,960
No.
How weird they make the call now.
655
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,160
Can we trace where the call
came from? We're working on it.
656
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,960
And did he say where specifically
in the garden he was buried?
657
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,640
No, but I checked the address
he gave on Google Maps.
658
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,960
It's a small ground floor flat
in Greenford.
659
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,960
The garden's 50 by 30, so...
660
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,960
OK. Thanks, Fran.
OK.
661
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,960
So, we get a dog unit down there...
662
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,960
What about Jay Royce?
663
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,800
Brief's right.
We've got nothing to hold him.
664
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,000
Bail him to return next week.
665
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000
OK.
666
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,960
Sunny, when they found the bullet,
did they keep looking for others?
667
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,960
I'll call Morten.
Get him back in there.
668
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,960
Mr Blackwood?
Yeah?
669
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,800
Karen Willets, Bishop Street nick.
670
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,960
I was wondering
if you could give me five minutes?
671
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,640
Yeah.
672
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,960
Where were they?
673
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,960
In a file imaginatively named
"Karol Wojsack pics".
674
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,800
So, this is not Jay's.
675
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,960
Everything on here would suggests to
me this is Precious Falade's laptop.
676
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,640
When was the file made?
677
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,960
26th of June, 2016.
678
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,960
Downloaded from an email
sent from a Hotmail address,
679
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,960
also created on the 26th of June.
680
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,960
About 20 minutes or so
before the e-mail was sent, in fact.
681
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,640
So she creates a Hotmail account
on Wojski's laptop
682
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,960
to send the photos to this to hers?
683
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,800
Yeah.
684
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,320
How many are there?
43.
685
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,160
On the tube, buses, shops...
It's obviously his thing.
686
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,960
Daryl, you're a genius.
Can you send them to me? Yep.
687
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,800
When?
'About ten minutes ago.'
688
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,960
And what's he doing?
689
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,960
Has he... Has he come
to pick some stuff up or...?
690
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,960
I don't think so.
He's playing with the kids.
691
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,960
'He just dropped a bag
in the spare room
692
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,960
'and said he'd cook.'
OK, well, erm...
693
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,960
Look, you head on, Mum,
and, erm... I'll call you later, OK?
694
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,160
Sorry.
695
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,960
Go on, then.
Go find him. Good boy.
696
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,960
Lingley.
'Got a Karol Wojski down here
697
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,320
'asking for you.'
698
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,960
Can you get him to take a seat
and tell him I'll be down in 20?
699
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,960
Here!
700
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,320
Good boy.
701
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,960
Mr Hume, Gatwick?
Yes. Gatwick, please.
702
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,160
And we just felt that there was
a bit of a discrepancy between you,
703
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,960
obviously, thinking it was
704
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,960
a serious enough incident
to call the police,
705
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,960
and then what you went on to say
in court.
706
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,960
Well, yes.
707
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:02,960
Yes, there was.
Thanks.
708
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,960
OK.
709
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,960
But can I ask you why?
710
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,960
Because it was suggested to me
after the arrest...
711
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,960
..that if I wanted to keep my job...
712
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,960
..I downplay the incident.
713
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,480
Suggested by who?
714
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,960
One of the directors.
715
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Which one?
I'd prefer not to say.
716
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,960
Well, according to my research,
717
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,480
Anthony Hume's father
was on the board of directors.
718
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,960
Was it him?
719
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,960
And was there anything else
he asked you to change?
720
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,960
Anything else
that you didn't tell the court?
721
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,960
What she was shouting,
when she came through the door.
722
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Which was?
723
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,960
"I wanna speak to my dad.
724
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,480
"I want to speak
to Tony fucking Hume."
725
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,960
Hold on.
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