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They are just beautiful. 9 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,600 In order to have a Clydesdale become your partner, 10 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,480 you really have to put your ego to the side and really be there 11 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,720 for that creature... 12 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,320 ..that depends on you. 13 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,400 I see them as just the most amazing breed. 14 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,760 It's a treasure trove of positive traits and characteristics 15 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,760 that I absolutely am passionate that we should not lose. 16 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,080 You only need to look at the herd books to see that it's diminishing, 17 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,960 there are far fewer horses. 18 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:32,000 You don't need to be an expert to know that. That's just obvious. 19 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,640 I started asking questions of the people who bred the horses, 20 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,400 and they were telling me shocking stories of the breed entering 21 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,160 what they call the extinction vortex, 22 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,600 when a number of factors come together 23 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,640 and, unless you react quickly, the whole breed 24 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,000 can just collapse. 25 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:57,080 So I could either pretend I hadn't heard that, 26 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,240 or else I could do something about it. 27 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,760 It's now or never. 28 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,520 We've really got to save this breed. 29 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,360 They touch the soul. 30 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,440 They really do. 31 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:36,960 I'm Janice Kirkpatrick, I'm a designer. 32 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,040 I have a business in Glasgow with my husband, 33 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,880 an architect called Ross Hunter. 34 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,080 We met when we were students. 35 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,520 This is perfect... 36 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,480 We work for some of the big global players. 37 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,640 British Airways, banks like RBS, a lot of... Janice! 38 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:55,280 Am I not allowed to say that? 39 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,360 No. 40 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,200 I suppose I've always been a big kid my whole life, in lots of ways. 41 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,080 I like toys. I like bikes. The power is remarkable. 42 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,120 Horses are the same. 43 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,120 I think women at a young age identify with the power a horse 44 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,800 can give them, and it's exciting. 45 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,360 I was always interested in the Clydesdale horse 46 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,960 through my love of horses, 47 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,400 but also through design. 48 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,520 30-odd years of practising as a designer, 49 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,400 I've come to truly believe that old is gold. 50 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,360 And, for me, the Clydesdale is very much this kind of a thing. 51 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,040 Do you remember when horses were here? 52 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,280 Yeah. But, I mean, I can remember when there was horses here, 53 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,080 but there's not much of it left. 54 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,120 Oh, boy... 55 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,840 This is a barn that would have at one time 56 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,360 had several horses in it. 57 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,800 These would have been big horses. 58 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,840 Clydesdales, the pre-eminent breed. 59 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:28,440 The best breed. 60 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,200 The most highly bred horses in human history. 61 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,600 And people were immensely proud of their horses. 62 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:39,480 The breed was born in the Clyde Valley, 63 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,640 to the south-west of Glasgow. 64 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,840 Everything that came from the Clyde was of incredible quality. 65 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,520 You know, the ships, the locomotives, steam engines. 66 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,560 And the Clydesdale horse. 67 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:03,040 ARCHIVE FOOTAGE: In the lowlands of Scotland, 68 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,840 let's not forget the great work that's been done, 69 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:09,000 and is still being done, by the ploughman and his good 70 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,360 servant, the horse. The heavy horse. 71 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,600 Scotland's pride and joy - the Clydesdale. 72 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:24,400 You need a really well assembled musculoskeletal frame 73 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,440 to get great power from the rear end of a horse, 74 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,040 because it's the great power that gives it its ability 75 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,680 to push into a collar and move, you know, a tonne weight. 76 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,920 And it's also the power you need for a great riding horse. 77 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,760 That's where the big horse race started. 78 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,880 The race to create the biggest horses, 79 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,120 which could produce the most power 80 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,600 that would fuel the agricultural revolutions 81 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,560 and Industrial Revolution. 82 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,560 PA SYSTEM: Second - Ronnie Black, number 10. 83 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,000 And third - number 11, 84 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Amazing Grace, from Sandy Aitken. 85 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,960 Well done, Sandy. 86 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,800 APPLAUSE 87 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,320 I love coming to shows like this because it really reminds me 88 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,680 of just how long the Clydesdale has been part 89 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,840 of our culture, our history. 90 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:27,200 That's a nice one. 91 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,800 Is it square buckles, or...? Yeah, it's proper square buckles. 92 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,960 They're always putting a hand on them and stroking them 93 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,880 and trying to make them... 94 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,280 Try and get them to be your friend. 95 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,040 Mess on legs. 96 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,040 But we don't panic. 97 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,000 It's a proper kind of Clydesdale show as well. 98 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,440 There's a bit of a focus about it. Well, the only one that really gets 99 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,960 big numbers in that scenario is the Highland. Highland, yeah. 100 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,560 PA SYSTEM: Those who are taking part in the pairs competition... 101 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,360 I think my earliest memory is of being at 102 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,600 what must have been a country fair or a fete in Dumfries. 103 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,480 And I must have been really wee, not much more than a toddler. 104 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,760 I remember gripping onto the front of the saddle and looking down, 105 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,320 and the movement of the horse going like that, 106 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,280 and thinking, "Oh!" 107 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,560 When, I think, I was seven, I started proper riding lessons. 108 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,000 Thereafter, I became hooked. 109 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,320 When I was a kid, shows with Clydesdale horses 110 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,800 would have been packed and it would have been really exciting, 111 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,640 it would have been a real celebration - 112 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,680 go and see the big horses. 113 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,480 Today, it's a much thinner affair, 114 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,600 there are fewer people and older people. 115 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,080 Some of the older photography, 116 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,160 when they had dappled greys, they had horses of all colours, 117 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,040 which I think would have been quite amazing to see. 118 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:19,600 Today, there's really only one colour of horse, and that's brown. 119 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,880 And also there's not many horses. 120 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,600 Well, this class that's just being shown just now, 121 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,960 in the mid '90s there could have been 20 in that class, 122 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,320 and there are three today. 123 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,880 So we're not... 124 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,920 ..quite sure why. 125 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,440 And that was number 27 from Charles Jamieson... 126 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,640 The overwhelming fact of the Clydesdale is that the horse 127 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,120 and everything that surrounds it is ageing. 128 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,040 Catalogues are available from the marquee 129 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,240 at the top end of the arena. 130 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,760 Good morning, everybody. 131 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:05,720 Good morning, Joseph. 132 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,000 Ugh... 133 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,840 Hello, Phoebe. 134 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,120 When I went to Glasgow School of Art, I was 18 135 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,200 and the awful thing was I had to sell my horse 136 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,800 because no-one else in the family rode, and it scarred me very deeply. 137 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,800 I still have a lot of regret over it. 138 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,880 I always had a heartening to go back and to ride again. 139 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,680 So I decided I wanted a Clydesdale. 140 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,520 I wanted a black one. 141 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,040 The blacks really appealed to me. And it's a personal thing - 142 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,240 I just think that they look amazing. 143 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:07,320 I had a look around and I couldn't find any black horses in the UK. 144 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,520 So I ended up with this one. 145 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,520 He's an American Clydesdale... 146 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,880 ..from Oregon. 147 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:19,600 Joe. 148 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,920 He's got a really expressive face. 149 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,800 He's very old-fashioned in style. 150 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,440 He's a big horse by any...any measure. 151 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,960 He's about....just a shade under 18 hands. 152 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,440 Woo! 153 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,440 What makes the Clydesdale so special is, for me, 154 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,960 just the sheer power of them. They are just magnificent. 155 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,720 Guys like Joe can be so light, absolutely light as a feather, 156 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,080 and when you get that power with the lightness, 157 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,960 it's a really special thing. 158 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,640 When I'd made the decision to get a black Clydesdale, I got 159 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,000 really interested in why there were no black horses in the UK. 160 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,440 What had happened to the black horses? 161 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,560 Where had they gone? 162 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,000 I'm on my way to meet Shona Harrison, whose partner, 163 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,400 John Zawadski, sadly died a few months ago. 164 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,920 John was a real expert in the Clydesdale world, 165 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,800 and he travelled up and down the UK to visit different shows. 166 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,000 I think this is it. 167 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,360 There's quite a lot of horses around, 168 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,200 a lot of stables round about, as well. Yeah, there are. 169 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,920 And there's a livery yard up there. 170 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,720 I was born here, but I lived at a farm further up the road. 171 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,360 And then as soon as my dad and all that retired and the farms 172 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,040 were sold two years after that, John and I bought the place back. 173 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,560 Shona's family have been in Clydesdales for generations, 174 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:18,520 and I'm really hoping that she can tell me more 175 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,920 about John's thoughts on the breed. 176 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,400 Come into John's office. I'd love to! 177 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,120 A lot of it's just as he left it, 178 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,320 because it's going to take a long time to go through things. 179 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,240 Just watch the steps. 180 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,040 Photographs galore. 181 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,640 Fantastic. 182 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,080 There's one called Grand National that's used as a... 183 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,160 It's W Johnson, 1918. 184 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,960 I'm very interested in how the horses change over the centuries. 185 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,120 They definitely have changed a lot. Over here... 186 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,520 It's a very organised man. 187 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,080 ..as I was saying, the breed histories are all down here. 188 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,120 Clydesdale Horse Society history. 189 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,840 All that up there's the history of Clydesdale Horse Society. 190 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,480 Just amazing. All the original documents like newsletters, letters 191 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,160 from the secretary, that sort of thing. 192 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,800 I'm just amazed. It's not at all what I expected. 193 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,280 What a job he's done. It's just amazing. 194 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,680 These are stallions, 19th century. 195 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:14,160 So he's pieced together all the stallion information. 196 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,440 This is going back decades and decades, you know, like centuries. 197 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,240 It's a cornucopia. 198 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,520 I've never known anything like it! 199 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,040 So did John map out the bloodlines? 200 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Yes, he's got the male bloodlines. 201 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,560 Oh, my God! The illustrations, like, pre-camera. 202 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:39,440 That's your Prince of Wales again. 203 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,960 John Zawadski's bloodlines. 204 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,200 And he's got two male bloodlines, one for Prince of Wales and one 205 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,880 for Darnley, both of whom were foundation stallions. 206 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,200 It's like layers thick with information, bloodlines and people 207 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,280 exchanging horses over hundreds of miles and continents. 208 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,920 What strikes me about these documents is they were people 209 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,040 with a long term view, building 210 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,000 this industrial power plant of an animal. 211 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,320 Just glorious! Gorgeous. 212 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Shona's collection includes antique sales catalogues from Scotland's 213 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,880 most famous breeder of Clydesdales, Lawrence Drew. 214 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,400 They are just exceptional, 215 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,760 I've never seen catalogues like this ever. 216 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,960 They are absolutely exceptional. 217 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:41,080 It's a sale catalogue for the Rolls Royces of horses. 218 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,600 Lawrence Drew, he knew he was doing. 219 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,240 You know, when you look at Prince of Wales, I'm sure there 220 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,720 must be a note somewhere about his colour, 221 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,280 but he looks like a very black horse. 222 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,560 I've not seen a Clydesdale stallion in the herd today 223 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,560 that looks like this horse. 224 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,320 Ross-o! Mm-hmm? 225 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,040 This is the treat. 226 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,080 Oh, aye. 227 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,560 Wow. It's the catalogue for 228 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,480 the dispersal sale of Lawrence Drew's herd. 229 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,360 This is 150 years old. That's amazing. 230 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,000 That's Prince of Wales, one of the foundation sires. 231 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,440 And these are all drawn. 232 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,840 Wow. It's just awesome. 233 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,520 What a size of a horse! 234 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,240 Look at that! It's incredible. 235 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,800 A lovely smile as well! 236 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,120 I would too, I think, if I were him! 237 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,880 I missed this the first time. 238 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,160 And I looked at the next page, 239 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,040 and then I flicked back and I found that. Does this still exist? 240 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,160 I don't know. 241 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Merryton was where the first Clydesdale horses 242 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,880 were really created. 243 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,480 So what had happened to the black horses? 244 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,280 I started to dig. 245 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,640 At Merryton, there's a big arch entrance with what looks like 246 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,160 a statue of a Clydesdale horse on top, and lots of people 247 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,000 arriving with their horses. 248 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,840 I'm relieved to find that Merryton was still a farm. 249 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,880 It looks like the baronial tower is still there and many 250 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,760 of the original buildings. 251 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,520 It'd be really nice to track down some 252 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,080 of those black Clydesdale bloodlines, 253 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,200 because the breed originally had a strong black component. 254 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,600 Merryton. This is where Lawrence Drew had his operation. 255 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,320 He was absolutely clear that his horses 256 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,760 weren't just to be beautiful. 257 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,760 They had to be functional, 258 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,120 and, boy, they had to be sound. 259 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,440 Merryton is where it all began. 260 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,000 Your dad said that it was 70 years, I think, he arrived 261 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,800 here after Lawrence Drew had left. 262 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,280 Did he tell you stories about Lawrence Drew's era? 263 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,880 One of the things I remember Dad saying was that many 264 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,720 of the stable hands were actually female. 265 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,880 Gosh, it's absolutely huge. 266 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,960 It's stunning, isn't it? It's really lovely. 267 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,080 I love the colour of the sandstone and the different textures. 268 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:07,880 I think these will be oak beams. They are lovely. 269 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:11,600 Big building. 270 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,480 And it's been for big horses. The dimensions... 271 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,840 Dad said... Well, you can see where the stalls were, 272 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,000 you know, straight in front. Uh-huh. 273 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,920 That was where the original stalls were. 274 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Do you see the height in the dimension of them? 275 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,840 The big upright and then... 276 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,000 I think Dad said there was 22. 22. 277 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,560 I mean, when this was full it must have been quite some sight, 278 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:39,800 and there'd just be those gorgeous horse bottoms all lined up. 279 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,560 Merryton was owned by the Hamiltons. 280 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,920 The Dukes of Hamilton were immensely wealthy. 281 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:58,920 Merryton was one of the big farms on the Duke of Hamilton's estate, 282 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,320 and Lawrence Drew was one of the Duke of Hamilton's men. 283 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,720 It's really interesting to be here in Chatelherault, where the Dukes 284 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,920 of Hamilton had their power base. 285 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,000 And they thought on a big scale. 286 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,400 Their horse breeding was on that same grand scale. 287 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,520 Lawrence Drew, he was an entrepreneur. 288 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,760 He was a showman. 289 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,480 Drew knew where he was going 290 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,120 with the commercial part of the business. 291 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,720 Thousands of horses were exported, and because this was very much 292 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,440 a business, they were building a brand and this was a big plan. 293 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,200 This was a worldwide plan. 294 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,480 This was about exporting to Australia and Russia and Italy 295 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,680 and North America and Canada. 296 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,360 And the blacks had been exported 297 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:56,120 as being amongst the highest quality. 298 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,880 It would have been quite a busy place. 299 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,640 But it's very quiet now. 300 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:15,400 If Drew had lived, I would just love to have seen 301 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,560 what he could have bred. 302 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,280 But he died, hence the dispersal sale. 303 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,120 This sale would have drawn people from all over the world, 304 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:29,960 and apparently 6,000 people attended it. 305 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,280 So all of his stock, which was really, you know, a treasure trove 306 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:43,120 of the breed, it was being dispersed throughout the world. 307 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,240 I had a hunch that, because Clydesdale horses had been exported, 308 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,880 that there was a package of genetic material 309 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,520 that had been exported with them. 310 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,720 I want to understand more about the underlying health 311 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,440 of the Scottish herd... 312 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,200 ..and get a snapshot of whether or not our gene pool is healthy. 313 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:22,000 I quickly discovered that the UK has a very small and shrinking pool 314 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,200 of Clydesdale horses, which means it's very hard to keep the breed 315 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,840 healthy in the future. 316 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,680 I looked a bit further and started talking to people about it, 317 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,160 talking to the vets about it, 318 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,520 and they started telling me about problems with the breed. 319 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,640 I started asking questions of the people who bred the horses. 320 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,080 We lost five one year in a summer. 321 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,520 And they were telling me shocking stories of the mortality rate 322 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,120 and issues of breeding, like massively 323 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:59,080 reduced fertility in mares and stallions, 324 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,040 and increased foal mortality, 325 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,520 which means there are simply fewer horses 326 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,960 and there's less genetic diversity. 327 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,440 Clear signals of the breed entering what they call 328 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,080 the extinction vortex. 329 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,560 And, unless you react quickly, the whole breed can just collapse. 330 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,480 And that changed everything. 331 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,880 Everyone knows there's a problem. Nobody knows what the solution is, 332 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,040 and nobody wants to act first. 333 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,880 I just found it just incredibly sad. 334 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,720 So, like, I couldn't possibly not try and do something about it. 335 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,200 I really needed to go and speak to some scientists 336 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,600 to find out exactly what was happening. 337 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,320 The first thing we need to find out 338 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,200 is how healthy is the herd in Scotland? 339 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,760 I'm going to find somebody - 340 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,400 somebody who has the knowledge to find out 341 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,280 what's happening and what needs to be done. 342 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,760 Secondly, we need to find out 343 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,760 if there is an issue with inbreeding. 344 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:27,600 And the most important question is can the breed survive? 345 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,920 That is the really big question. 346 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,720 Hi. Hi, I'm trying to get through to Jessica Petersen. 347 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,920 RINGING 348 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,920 Hi, Janice. Thanks for taking this call. 349 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,440 I really appreciate it. 350 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,400 I'm really hoping that you can help 351 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,840 unravel this Clydesdale mystery. 352 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:02,480 I'm trying to understand how viable the genetic population 353 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,040 is in our Clydesdale horses in Scotland. 354 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,920 I'm wondering if there's a way that we can measure that, 355 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,760 if that would be something that you could help with. 356 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,720 It seems like something that we could get at 357 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,560 using genetic data. 358 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,840 How diverse is this population? 359 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,800 Are the Scottish horses different than North American horses? 360 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,320 So definitely something that's up my alley. 361 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,880 Jessica has agreed to do a genetic study of the Clydesdale populations 362 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,520 in the USA, Canada and the UK, and in order to do this 363 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,120 she needs DNA from horses in all three countries. 364 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,240 By collecting that DNA, she can get a snapshot of the diversity 365 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,720 and therefore the health of the populations 366 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,920 in those respective countries. 367 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,400 So Jessica is going to get 50 samples from Canada, 368 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,240 50 samples from the USA, 369 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,960 which leaves me to get 50 samples from the UK, and that gives us 150 370 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:09,600 hair follicle samples, which is 150 bits of horse DNA. 371 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760 That should be great. 372 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,600 We should be good to go with that. 373 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:25,120 This is my little tool kit for my genetic collections. 374 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,480 It requires the breeder to provide a hair sample 375 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,360 of around 30 to 40 follicles, 376 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,880 which are pulled from the mane or the tail. 377 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,360 And that's really it. Then they're placed in a stamped, 378 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:41,920 addressed envelope and sent back to me. 379 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,520 So it's not a huge job for people to do. 380 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,640 I'm going to do three horses this morning. 381 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,880 Joe is in his usual domain, which is here. 382 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,720 That's us. That's our first sample. 383 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:11,960 So that's about, I would say, 30, 40 hairs, with the roots intact. 384 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,560 Stick that in an envelope. 385 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,440 What I'm going to do this afternoon is contact breeders 386 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,600 in the UK independently, explain to them the project 387 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,200 and ask them to participate. 388 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,840 Hi, it's Janice Kirkpatrick trying to reach Caroline Reynolds 389 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,240 regarding the Clydesdale DNA information. 390 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,680 VOICEOVER: There's this feeling generally 391 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,600 within the kind of Clydesdale owners in Scotland and in the UK 392 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,440 that everything's just OK. 393 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,360 You know, they see the horse outside in the field 394 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:44,800 and the horse looks healthy, 395 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,920 and I don't think we've quite got the urgency of the situation. 396 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,880 But people have been actually OK about it, saying, 397 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,800 "Yes, we will do it." 398 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,200 Thanks. Thank you. 399 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,320 Need to count the bags. 400 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,280 One, two, three, four... 401 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,000 You're a star. Thank you. 402 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,280 It would just really help. 403 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,160 16 samples. Fantastic. 404 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,080 I'm the sort of individual behind the Clydesdale project. 405 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,760 Another two. I've got another two. 406 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,000 Ah. Blackstone. 407 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,440 Thank you, Bob. 408 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,320 Two, three, four. 36... 409 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,760 ..so far, so we need another 14. 410 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,240 Thank you so much. Bye. 411 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,520 49, 50. 412 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,120 We actually have...we have 50 samples. 413 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,280 We've got 50 samples. 414 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,400 That means that we've actually managed to find 415 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,960 enough DNA to do our survey of the Clydesdale population. 416 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,480 It's really good. 417 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,480 This just came in the post for you, Janice. Oh. 418 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,880 Thanks, Zoe. 419 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:20,720 These are the results of the DNA analysis. 420 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:36,520 Ah. 421 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,960 "Data generated from these samples support what you suspected. 422 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,440 "Based upon the relative isolation and small population size 423 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,880 "of Clydesdales in Scotland, they do have less diversity 424 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,400 "than Clydesdales studied from North America." 425 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,520 And there is an increase in inbreeding 426 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,840 within the Scottish population. 427 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:01,080 Jessica, I've only skimmed it, but it seems that our hunch was right, 428 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,480 that there is an issue with genetic diversity. 429 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,480 So, yes, the concern about the Scottish population 430 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:13,600 being very small in size held true in that inbreeding estimates 431 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,640 of the horses in Scotland were generally quite a bit 432 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,520 higher than from horses in North America. 433 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,200 And that goes back again to the small population size 434 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,920 where, if there's just not a whole lot of horses, 435 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,520 you're going to be mating relatives to relatives, whether or not 436 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,520 you are intending to do so. 437 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,240 For the first time, I think 438 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,680 we have definitive scientific genetic proof 439 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,360 that the Clydesdale herd in Scotland is in danger. 440 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,360 We have to do something about it. 441 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,040 It suddenly dawned on me that I could maybe bring back some 442 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,080 new genetic material, new genetic Clydesdale material to Scotland 443 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,840 that would give it some diversity and some sustainability. 444 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,240 The very best horses were exported 445 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,000 because they commanded the highest prices. 446 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,960 They were exported to Canada from Glasgow, from Liverpool, 447 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,840 and then from Canada they went down into the United States 448 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,720 and South America. 449 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,320 When the genetic material was dispersed, some pretty big herds 450 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,440 were founded across Canada, and some of the black bloodlines 451 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,440 are in these herds today, the black bloodlines that have their roots 452 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,960 in the old stud books in Scotland. 453 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,880 What I'm looking for is a great-looking 454 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,160 and great-performing pregnant breeding mare, 455 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,360 so I can create black Clydesdale horses in Scotland. 456 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,000 I think the time has now come for the horse to come back home 457 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,200 again to the place it was created. 458 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,680 It's important that I bring a horse back into the UK 459 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,560 that is as different as possible genetically from the horses 460 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,760 that we have at the moment because by doing that 461 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,680 I will strengthen and widen and deepen the genetic pool. 462 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,120 Most Clydesdales exported from Scotland 463 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,960 ended up here, in Ontario. 464 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,520 Many of them passed through a really famous farm 465 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,320 in Pickering Township, which is just outside Toronto. 466 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,440 We come here, where so many of those horses landed, 467 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,360 and it's like this... 468 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,960 ..almost Scottish-looking landscape that's not unfamiliar. 469 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,240 This place is called Thistle Ha', 470 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,800 and it's where the Miller family had their operations. 471 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,720 The Miller family pretty much controlled the transatlantic trade 472 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,760 in Clydesdale horses all that time ago. 473 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,480 Welcome to Thistle Ha' Inn. Oh, thank you. It's a lovely house. 474 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,240 So this is a portrait of my great-grandfather. 475 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,760 He settled this farm as a pioneer in 1839. 476 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,240 It was the family business in Canada and the United States. 477 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,320 I recognise this name - Lord Harry. 478 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,440 This Lord Harry poster 479 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,800 was advertising when the horse is available for breeding mares. 480 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,400 It's wonderful. 481 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,160 And he's by the very famous Prince of Wales. 482 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,120 So this is going right back to the beginning of the herd books. 483 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,560 Bred by Lawrence Drew, 484 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,720 which was a famous Scottish Clydesdale breeder. 485 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,800 This is beautiful. 486 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,080 He was a champion everywhere he was shown. 487 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,000 He was an unbeatable horse. 488 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,240 What's amazing is that the Miller family were the first and biggest 489 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,520 importers of Clydesdales from Scotland into Canada, 490 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,520 and this small farm was once the centre 491 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,720 of the international Clydesdale trade. 492 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,560 After the Civil War, they had to start rebuilding 493 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,400 everything in the United States. 494 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,000 A lot of horses were killed in battles, so they came to Canada 495 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,120 to re-establish their herd. 496 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:12,360 The other thing that was happening too 497 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,600 was the opening of the prairies. 498 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:22,480 To plough, harvest, cultivate a farm that ran from horizon to horizon, 499 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,440 the Clydesdale was king. 500 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,480 TRAIN WHISTLE BLOWS 501 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,680 Wow. 502 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,160 TRAIN WHISTLE BLOWS 503 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,040 I've come to Saskatchewan because there are 504 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,280 descendants of the original horses that were exported 505 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,400 from Scotland to Canada all these years ago. 506 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,600 SAT NAV: Turn left at the stop sign. 507 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,880 Here we go. 508 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,000 Yeah, I think we've got some Clydesdales. 509 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,360 It's just such an amazing country. It's so big, 510 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,680 you know, flat and vast and endless. 511 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,080 It's so different from Scotland and the land that we bred 512 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,000 those horses on originally. 513 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:50,400 With me I have got John Hankinson, who is a longstanding good friend. 514 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,320 He's an equine manipulator. 515 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,000 He's a master farrier. 516 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,040 He's got a whole bunch of tools in his box. 517 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,320 Let's just go in this way. Is this it? 518 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,360 Yeah. 519 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,600 We're here. 520 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,600 At last! 521 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,840 CHILD SHOUTING 522 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,200 Janice, how are we doing? Good to see you. Good to see you. 523 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,400 The place looks so different. This is John. Hi there. 524 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,640 How are you doing? This is Derek. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. 525 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,880 Derek Cey is from a family of Clydesdale breeders. 526 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,400 I think they're in their fifth generation of Clydesdale breeding. 527 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,240 CAR HORN BLARES 528 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,760 They're coming. 529 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,880 They're coming. Look at the sight! 530 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,320 Awesome. 531 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,600 DEREK WHISTLES 532 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,800 Come on. 533 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,160 Hello. 534 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,560 Hello! 535 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,880 It's just great. This is what I came here for. 536 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,120 It's just... It's like swimming with horses. 537 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,320 It's just brilliant. SHE LAUGHS 538 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,000 I mean, Derek's herd is vast compared to anything 539 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,640 I can look at at home. 540 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,600 And it's very moving because it evokes the images of these huge 541 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,880 studs that we had in Scotland 100 years ago, 150 years ago. 542 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,200 It's just such a treat to see that. 543 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,080 CHATTER 544 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,720 First impression - is that where you start? 545 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:48,480 Janice was looking for a sound horse, who's going to remain sound 546 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,080 for the next ten years. 547 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,360 John is so used to looking 548 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,480 at the minor discrepancies in horse movement. 549 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,200 This is years spent looking at thoroughbreds, where you're looking 550 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,240 at, you know, every time they plant their feet 551 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:05,680 what bit strikes the ground - is it the outside, is it the inside? 552 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,280 It takes years to kind of tune your eye into that. 553 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,400 And one of my biggest problems coming out here 554 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,520 was, like, if I came out on my own, 555 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,240 I'm never going to see half this stuff. 556 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,320 I just do not have the skill and experience to pick out 557 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,400 those little bits and pieces. 558 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,520 My face should tell you how I feel about horse shopping today. 559 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,560 I'm very excited about it. 560 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,920 All of our land is named around here, so we are going 561 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,280 to Keasey Pasture. 562 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,840 We'll be going to see Jack. 563 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,840 He is one of our three main stallions in our operation. 564 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,760 Nice, big, gentle giant, and he 565 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,160 has his core mares with him 566 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,280 that he's been hanging out with all summer, so... 567 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,800 It's going to be a very long few days. 568 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,240 There's a lot of horses to look at. 569 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:07,520 Can't wait to get started! 570 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,040 OK, so that's a yearling. 571 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,320 Mitzi is just behind, if you want to have a better 572 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,640 look at her while she's standing there. 573 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,480 So this is Mitzi. This is Mitzi, yeah. Mitzi's nice. 574 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,560 How are you doing, my dear? Eh? 575 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,200 That is Bacardi, nice little fancy mare. 576 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,960 I've got to be really objective. 577 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,960 When I see a horse I like, I'll write down the name, 578 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,480 I'll take a photograph on my phone. 579 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,520 I want a horse that has a good length of neck, 580 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:09,000 because you need that in order to produce a good riding horse. 581 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,160 It needs its neck to balance. 582 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,760 It needs big hindquarters. 583 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,680 Not fat hindquarters - big, muscular hindquarters. 584 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,240 That's where the power comes. 585 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:19,280 The limbs have got to be straight. 586 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:29,480 I also want a horse that has got really great rhythm, great movement, 587 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,240 that has got a kind of cadence to its step. 588 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,520 Amber, a three-year-old. 589 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,440 She's got a little bit of an attitude. 590 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,040 Can we take a closer look at her? Yeah, you betcha. 591 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,080 She caught my eye, she caught John's eye, and she's got nice shoulder... 592 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,280 All her zones are good. 593 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,760 And she's actually got quite a nice rear end. 594 00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,960 What do you think? 595 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:02,200 Yeah, I like it. Yeah. Yeah. 596 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,240 The other thing about Amber is she is in foal. 597 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,920 Derek thinks it's Willow Way Nightlight, 598 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,760 who is the big black stallion. 599 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,080 So that adds a different dimension. 600 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,880 He's quite a rare black bloodline from an excellent 601 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,520 herd of Clydesdales. 602 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,440 A lot of checkmarks you've got going there and stuff. 603 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,280 I'd like to see that book when you're all done. 604 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,200 It's tiring because you're concentrating. 605 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,480 You're thinking, I mustn't mess this up. I mustn't miss something. 606 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,000 So where do you keep your good ones, Derek? 607 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,400 THEY LAUGH You know how that works. 608 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,280 So, Janice, what are your thoughts? 609 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,160 I really liked Amber. 610 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,800 What did you think? 611 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,320 I think you've mentioned the one that I've got on my sort of list 612 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,080 as being the prime candidate. 613 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,040 She's in foal. She's got the right attitude. 614 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,400 She's got a nice action. 615 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,280 She's good, clean-limbed. Looks to tick all the boxes. 616 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,680 As I say, she, at the moment, is the one that I'm thinking 617 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,720 is probably the best one for you. 618 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,800 What's the plan now? Are we going to do the hands on bit? 619 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,600 I think that would be a good idea. 620 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,080 I wanted a pair of eyes on this horse 621 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,560 and a pair of hands on this horse. 622 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,480 John's a very, very good judge of how a horse 623 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,400 is put together physically. 624 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,440 That's you. 625 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,600 So far, so good. 626 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,240 John's also got a good feel for personalities. 627 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,640 This is good. 628 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,960 A hell of a girl. 629 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,200 I like this one. 630 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,720 What are you...? 631 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:32,360 Awesome. Awesome? Yeah. 632 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,440 Thank you, John. 633 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,200 She's a cracking girl, isn't she? She's... Yeah. Fabulous. 634 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,240 Hey, good girl. 635 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,800 And I think that really affected John. 636 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,080 Very rarely he ever finds a horse that tries so hard. 637 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,400 And he was just amazed that this horse, which was really a wild 638 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,600 horse, was trying so hard to understand what he wanted. 639 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,440 Team hug. 640 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,560 Team hug. Thank you. 641 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,640 I'm so pleased that you came with me. 642 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,360 That's the right horse. 643 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,760 Her energy is just amazing. 644 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,760 Hey there. 645 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,600 VOICE ON PHONE: Have you organised it? 646 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,640 Yes, I've not organised it all but, yes, we have a horse. 647 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,240 You are going to love her. 648 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,080 John is absolutely in love with her. 649 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,680 Like, unbelievably in love with her. 650 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,920 What this horse is bringing over is a whole toolkit of genetic 651 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,800 lovely things that could, you know, take the Scottish herd in different 652 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,160 directions, and that for me is really exciting. 653 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,720 This isn't just about even my lifetime - this is about, you know, 654 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,560 other people's lifetimes. 655 00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,240 Of all breeds, the Clydesdale deserves a future. 656 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,880 Good run? Oh, not too bad. 657 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,680 Ah, so... Nice to meet you. 658 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,080 This is Amber. 659 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,360 Her maiden voyage. 660 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,200 Come on, sweets. 661 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,760 Do you want to give her a last petting? 662 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,240 Just everybody walk up nice and slow there. 663 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:46,480 Oh. Atta girl. 664 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,840 All right. 665 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,440 CHILDREN: Bye, Amber! There you guys go. 666 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,160 She's now got the beginning of a very big journey to Scotland, 667 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,000 back to Clydesdale heartland. 668 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,520 Copy for your records. Thank you. 669 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,600 That's everything done here. 670 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,880 So today is D-Day. 671 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,360 It really is the conclusion of Amber's journey over here. 672 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,960 She's had 3,000 kilometres by road and then another... 673 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,160 She's had an eight-hour journey 674 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,320 from Chicago that's been delayed for five hours. 675 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,720 So she's going to be fairly tired. 676 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,440 I'm really looking forward to seeing her. 677 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,200 My husband Ross hasn't seen her at all. 678 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,200 So it's a big deal for both of us, really. 679 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,240 Amber coped ridiculously well with the travel. 680 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,080 It's now beginning to feel a bit like Christmas. 681 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,720 I'm very relieved that she is so...cool with everything. 682 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:34,720 She just looks really alert, really interested in it all. 683 00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,000 She's not fazed by it. So that's good. 684 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,480 Oh... 685 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:56,360 Yeah, I don't need your help. 686 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,080 You're such a pest! 687 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,160 Come on, missus. 688 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,560 This is our Canadian lady. 689 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,160 Don't be cheeky. 690 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,400 She's very cheeky. 691 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,120 I don't call my horses by their pedigree names. 692 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,680 It's quite nice just to hang with them for a while and find out 693 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,840 what their characters are like. 694 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,200 She just doesn't feel like an Amber. 695 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,640 She's not an amber light. 696 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,280 This horse is a full-on green light. 697 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,760 She was just so audacious that I decided to call her 698 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,960 Jesse James after the outlaw. 699 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,800 Good girl. Good girl. 700 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,880 Right, Steve-o. 701 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,440 We've got John Morris, my local vet, 702 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,280 coming to have a look at Jesse. 703 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,720 SHE SIGHS 704 00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:57,200 I'm knackered! 705 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,760 Is this your new girl, Janice? 706 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,040 This certainly is. Good girl. 707 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,040 Good girl. 708 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,040 All right, so these are the identification documents 709 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,200 for the Clydesdale Horse Society. 710 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,120 She looks a very different type. 711 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,040 It's interesting to see that there was another line 712 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,400 of Clydesdales differentiated in another country. 713 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,240 In terms of her pregnancy, 714 00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:32,200 we don't know quite how far on she is. 715 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,960 It's really very difficult to try and get a date. 716 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,720 It's not unusual to find that people sit up for about two weeks 717 00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:41,160 waiting for their mare to foal, 718 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,280 and then they go to bed because they're so tired, 719 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,360 and then guess what happens - they foal that night. 720 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,320 And are there any particular features of a Clydesdale birth 721 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,960 as opposed to a normal horse birth? 722 00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:58,880 Clydesdales can be more difficult. 723 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,520 If the foal is not in the right position, then they can get stuck. 724 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,800 Beyond that, there's a sort of inner sack - normally the foal bursts 725 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,960 through that, as part of the birth process. 726 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,120 But if the foal is born and the sack is over its face, 727 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,760 then it can't breathe. 728 00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:21,640 It's quite scary stuff, actually, 729 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,880 especially when it's horses that you love. 730 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,400 If things go wrong, they go terribly wrong, 731 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,760 and they go wrong very, very quickly. 732 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,240 I've got a very good imagination. 733 00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:37,280 I'm very good at imagining horror stories. 734 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,800 To re-establish a viable Clydesdale herd in Scotland 735 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,360 is going to require a lot of support. 736 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,760 The change from the wooden plough, 737 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,920 sort of early 1800s, through to your 738 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,800 typical Scottish ploughs to your North America... 739 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,080 Is that a Ronaldsay plough, the little, tiny mobile one? Yes. Ah. 740 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,600 Bob Powell's an agricultural historian. 741 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,880 He understands everything Clydesdale, and there's not much 742 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,480 he doesn't know about this horse. Like me, 743 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,200 he thinks there's a really deep, almost ancient passion 744 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,440 for the Clydesdale that I need to tap into. 745 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,280 The old boys that I speak to, 746 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,280 they really miss the horses, by and large, you know? 747 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,280 People used to ignore me when I went 748 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,480 through the countryside on a normal horse. 749 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,440 The moment I started riding Clydesdales, 750 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,040 old guys would open gates for me, they'd stand and talk, 751 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,840 they'd tell me stuff. 752 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,160 There was a clear... Some of it's misty-eyed, I'm sure, 753 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,120 but I think they also missed the companionship. 754 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,240 Oh, I mean, there's no doubt. 755 00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:02,520 I mean, going into a stable and having something sort of snuffle 756 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,640 at you, and it's a warm body and it's living... 757 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,720 ..I mean, is different. 758 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:11,080 And, you know, a lot of these old guys, I mean, some of them 759 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,880 may have never worked horses, but their fathers will have had them 760 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,360 and they'll have been in the stables when they were kids. 761 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,560 Yeah. And the memory's still there. The memory's still there. Yeah. 762 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,240 And, you know, for all of us, whatever our memories are, 763 00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:27,440 for most of us, anyway, you know, 764 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,120 they bring back happy times. They all smile. 765 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,960 One thing that's become really clear to me about how we save 766 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:41,400 the Clydesdale is, if we can't tie it to a hopeful future, it will die. 767 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:47,800 I really want to create the world centre for this horse 768 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,640 that has got some permanence, that's got some 769 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,760 sustainability going forward. 770 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,440 That builds some value into the horses... 771 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,600 ..so that there's a market of people who want to buy them and look 772 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,120 after them and enjoy them and keep breeding them. 773 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,080 The actual archway is 17th century. 774 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,720 I've not been here for years. 775 00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:37,920 Absolutely years. 776 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,680 I think Pollock Park stables are fabulous. 777 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,120 They are fabulous. 778 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,560 They are beautiful early 18th-century stables. 779 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,040 So they fit entirely with the story of the Clydesdale. 780 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,600 It's actually done well to stay up so well. It has. 781 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,880 The roof's not exactly straight and I see the pigeons have moved in 782 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,520 but it's not the worst. 783 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:03,800 So these would have been the original stables. 784 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,200 Tell a few stories. 785 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,120 Lots of teeth marks and foot marks, but no horses. 786 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,080 Be great to get them back again. Oh, it certainly would. 787 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,040 That's the plan. Yes, I hope so. 788 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,640 It seems to me that Pollock House stables is a bit of a gift 789 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,440 because it's right in the centre of Glasgow, in the Clyde Valley - 790 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,680 the source of this amazing Clydesdale horse. 791 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,280 I'm doing a brain dump, 792 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,840 which just gets out of my head and onto a whiteboard 793 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:02,360 the different dimensions of this project. 794 00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:09,600 Pollock Park could be the thing that helps save the horse. 795 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,640 I'm going to start speaking to the people who actually own the park, 796 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,800 which is Glasgow City Council. 797 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,320 Hello. Hello, hello. Nice to meet you. how are you? 798 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,560 I'm very well, thanks. Good. Come in, please. 799 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,200 Thanks for taking time to see me. No, a pleasure. 800 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,040 So, Janice, the stable blocks at Pollock House and in the park 801 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,760 have obviously been derelict and mainly unused for many years, 802 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,240 many decades in some parts of the building. 803 00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:54,040 In terms of being able to bring them back to life and use them 804 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,920 differently, what is the plan that you've brought today? 805 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:02,040 Well, it's really bringing the horse back to Glasgow. 806 00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:06,440 It's quite interesting, when you look at the buildings 807 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,480 on the estate, I hadn't been down to see them for decades, actually. 808 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,080 The side that's nearest the river is the biggest problem. 809 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,720 And apparently it's been shored up since either the late '50s 810 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,560 or the early '60s. 811 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,960 But it's all repairable 812 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,000 and it's in much better condition than I thought. 813 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,760 It can help us be better. 814 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,800 It can also help save the horse. 815 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,120 Great. I mean, I think that's really exciting. 816 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,920 There's so much potential behind that story. 817 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,040 It's something that we should certainly be supporting as a city. 818 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,440 That's a Clydesdale. 819 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,360 It is such a cracking painting. 820 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,680 There's a little grey in the background as well. 821 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,520 Absolutely wonderful. 822 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,800 The murals tell the story of Glasgow, 823 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,240 and I think a pride of place for the Clydesdale. 824 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:12,800 Trying to keep sight of Jesse today because she's really close to giving 825 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,840 birth, and I don't want her to creep off and give birth in the field 826 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,680 shelter or in some other corner of the field. 827 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,640 She loves having her udders scratched. 828 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,360 That's a huge udder. 829 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,680 I mean, that udder feels and looks pretty fully formed. 830 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,080 There's always a worry, you always think about 831 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,400 what's going to go wrong. 832 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,680 I try very hard to make sure that Ross is at home 833 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,120 when we're in this foaling window. 834 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,120 But it could happen during the day, I could be on my own. 835 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,480 The muscles around her pelvis are slackening off, 836 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,320 ready for her giving birth. 837 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,400 Because things happen really quickly in foaling, 838 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,760 this is me being organised. 839 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,040 I didn't want to get caught up in the action and not know what to do. 840 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,960 At what point does it get dangerous? 841 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,320 Just watching the time again, with the foal standing, sucking. 842 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,760 There's a one, two, three rule, which is foal standing 843 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,560 within an hour, sucking within two hours, and placenta passed 844 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,960 within three hours. 845 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,440 If anything goes wrong, it goes catastrophically wrong 846 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,840 very, very quickly. 847 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:05,920 We installed a little Wi-Fi camera, which is brilliant 848 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:11,160 because it connects to my mobile phone or my other devices, 849 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,880 and it means I can watch what's happening in the foaling box 850 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,600 so I can check during the night and just see where she's at, 851 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,000 and if there's much movement, the camera tells me there's movement. 852 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,920 All we can do now is wait. 853 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:15,280 I want to bring people together who have an interest in the future 854 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,520 of the Clydesdale horse in Pollock Park. 855 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,600 So, breeders' societies, 856 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,600 there are those of us who are individuals. 857 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,120 There's no real mechanism for us all to come together, you know? 858 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,280 There's people know people, you know, see people at shows 859 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:43,080 and all the rest, but actually as a group with a common passion, 860 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,840 it doesn't really exist. 861 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,080 Around 30% of Clydesdale foals are dying from a range of disorders 862 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,480 commonly associated with a diminishing population 863 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,800 and a thinning gene pool, and compared to most other kind 864 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,000 of common horse breeds, deaths are really rare. 865 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,720 So 30% is a huge number. 866 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,240 And it's heartbreaking. 867 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,600 It's heartbreaking for breeders and it's heartbreaking for the mares 868 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,560 who can carry their foals for a year before they give birth. 869 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,240 We can do something about it. 870 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,920 What I'd like to do now is to explore how we might create 871 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,200 a sustainable world centre here in Pollock Park. 872 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,320 Pollock stables - 873 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,040 something that's vibrant, that's world-class. 874 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,840 I have been involved in this project. 875 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,120 It makes sense to me, and this is the moment when I discover 876 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,760 if it is actually going to make sense to anybody else. 877 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,080 SHE LAUGHS 878 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,760 So there's a lot riding on it. 879 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,600 All breeders as well, 880 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,040 I think we need to actually work as one. 881 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,520 We need to research old methods, try to find a way of replicating that, 882 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,720 look at what's missing. 883 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,200 We're seeing how important 884 01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,720 it is to have somebody like Janice, who has the energy and drive 885 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,840 to just say to people, "Let's do it." 886 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,040 The urgency of the situation to sort the gene pool out 887 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,920 and have a breeding plan that will ensure the health 888 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,040 and the continuity of this breed. 889 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,960 It was really good, really positive. Really positive. 890 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,080 I really feel that we can make something happen. 891 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,360 I feel very good about it. 892 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,800 You know when something feels right, you just know it. 893 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,240 Hi there. It's Janice Kirkpatrick at Lindsayston. 894 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,640 I've a mare who I think might foal tonight. 895 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,240 Thank you. Thanks. 896 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,320 It got to half past five in the morning and... 897 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:08,960 Nothing was happening. ..nothing. 898 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,440 So I went back to sleep. 899 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,120 HORSE WHINNIES SOFTLY 900 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,080 I don't like looking back at that bit of film very much. 901 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,200 The foal can't breathe on her own yet because her face is completely 902 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,960 covered in this amniotic sack that has to be removed. 903 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,040 And Jesse needs to break the sack, 904 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,240 she needs to do it quickly so the foal doesn't suffocate. 905 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,840 Jesse just instinctively knows that she's got to get the sack 906 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,640 off the face of her foal and help her breathe. 907 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,160 Woke up again... 908 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,440 ..ten past six, and... 909 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,640 ..there's this little white face peering out from the straw 910 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,560 at the back of the loose box. 911 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,400 Absolutely shocked. 912 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,360 It was like, where the hell did that come from? 913 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,200 Ross is going, "There's a face! 914 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,960 "There's a face!" I woke Janice up. 915 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,800 It's a wee girl! 916 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,160 A wee girl! 917 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,160 That's a good girl. 918 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,200 Yeah. Your beautiful foal, yeah. 919 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,040 Yeah, that's a good girl. 920 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,280 HORSE WHINNIES 921 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,760 That's your mum! 922 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,520 When Jesse was pregnant, 923 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,800 I was convinced that this foal wanted to be called Snowy, 924 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,840 and Ross thought I was mad. 925 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,800 She's got a big white face, and she's this weird lavender colour 926 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,200 with flecks of white through her coat, so she is quite 927 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,600 a snowy horse. 928 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,960 She'll go pretty much black. 929 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,360 Thanks for coming along, John. I really appreciate it. 930 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,040 She's finding it really hard to stand. 931 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:35,120 And we've just been doing a combination of letting her sleep... 932 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,120 ..she then gets up. She can actually latch onto the teat now, 933 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,240 but she can't stand for long. 934 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,360 Oh, oh... She's so slippy. 935 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:06,120 We really want to get Snowy standing so that she can suckle 936 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,360 from Jesse and get milk, especially the first milk, which is called 937 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,560 colostrum, which has got antibodies in it, which will help 938 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,280 build her immune system. 939 01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:21,360 And that's one of the things that can cause mortality in foals, 940 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,680 is not getting enough colostrum. 941 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:35,200 We thought, oh, my God, something's going wrong here. 942 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,240 The structure of the foal's stomach changes after eight hours 943 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,160 and it becomes impossible for the foal then to benefit 944 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,680 from this immunity given to it by its mothers milk. 945 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,080 John wants to make sure that we've got her immune system 946 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,080 kicked in, so he's going to...he's putting a tube into her stomach and 947 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,520 putting in...quite a lot of colostrum. 948 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:20,280 He's got to be very careful to get the tube into the stomach, 949 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:21,800 not the lungs. 950 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,680 See it there? Yeah. 951 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,200 And if we can see it... Yeah. It's in the right place. 952 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,840 ..it means it's not in the airway. It's away down here. 953 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,440 Snowy's... Snore and drink at the same time. 954 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,600 Just pull it off. That's good. 955 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,800 There we go. Well done. 956 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,680 So all that milk in you, you're going to be strong now. 957 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,080 There we go. 958 01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:59,200 Now she's had some colostrum, the biggest problem is getting 959 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,880 them up and getting them sucking within a reasonable amount of time. 960 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,760 Yeah, good girl. 961 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,880 Up we go... 962 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,680 Get it right here, you're a wee bit too far back again. 963 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,760 She's going for the right bit. 964 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,120 It's always in my mind that I could lose a foal, 965 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,560 I could lose a mare. 966 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,160 I really, really, really want this foal to suckle. 967 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,680 The sooner she can stand up on her own and suck, the better. 968 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,720 If only she could stand on her own, it would be perfect. 969 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,600 HORSE WHINNIES 970 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,560 Whoa! 971 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,960 And we're up! 972 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,400 Oh! 973 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,440 That's it... 974 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,640 Are you going to be a big grey girl? Are you? 975 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,480 Are you going to be a black roan? 976 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:11,840 Are you going to be black? 977 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,240 Have you got little teeth? Are these your teeth? 978 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,400 They're tiny teeth. 979 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,000 Imagine having tiny little teeth like that. 980 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:23,840 Yeah. 981 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,680 Good girl. 982 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,680 So I never intended to have spent this year 983 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,280 like I've spent this year. 984 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,720 I really, really love my Clydesdales. 985 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,400 Come. 986 01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:00,640 I think they're brilliant big people to hang with, 987 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,120 and I think the world's a better place for them being here. 988 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,280 Come on, Janice. 989 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,600 THEY LAUGH 990 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:15,200 I believe I've at least started the journey of helping 991 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,480 them flourish again. 992 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,000 I have a great belief that others will join me. 993 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,680 How could you not be excited about something like this, 994 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,640 that was created in this place? 995 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,160 We need to be proud of it and own it and embrace it, 996 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,040 and make sure it has a bright, shiny future. 997 01:13:40,305 --> 01:14:40,411 Please rate this subtitle at www.osdb.link/88wz2 Help other users to choose the best subtitles80760

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