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There's a perfection
about Clydesdales.
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They are incredible athletes,
incredibly graceful
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in their movement.
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Just big personalities.
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It makes you feel small and humbled
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and incredibly privileged
to be with them.
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They're beautiful.
They are just beautiful.
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In order to have a Clydesdale
become your partner,
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you really have to put your ego
to the side and really be there
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for that creature...
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..that depends on you.
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I see them as just the most
amazing breed.
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It's a treasure trove of positive
traits and characteristics
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that I absolutely am passionate
that we should not lose.
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You only need to look at the herd
books to see that it's diminishing,
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there are far fewer horses.
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You don't need to be an expert
to know that. That's just obvious.
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I started asking questions of
the people who bred the horses,
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and they were telling me shocking
stories of the breed entering
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what they call
the extinction vortex,
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when a number of factors
come together
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and, unless you react quickly,
the whole breed
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can just collapse.
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So I could either pretend
I hadn't heard that,
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or else I could do
something about it.
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It's now or never.
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We've really got
to save this breed.
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They touch the soul.
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They really do.
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I'm Janice Kirkpatrick,
I'm a designer.
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I have a business in Glasgow
with my husband,
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an architect called Ross Hunter.
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We met when we were students.
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This is perfect...
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We work for some of
the big global players.
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British Airways, banks like RBS,
a lot of... Janice!
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Am I not allowed to say that?
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No.
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I suppose I've always been a big
kid my whole life, in lots of ways.
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I like toys. I like bikes.
The power is remarkable.
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Horses are the same.
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I think women at a young age
identify with the power a horse
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can give them, and it's exciting.
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I was always interested
in the Clydesdale horse
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through my love of horses,
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but also through design.
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30-odd years
of practising as a designer,
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I've come to truly believe
that old is gold.
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And, for me, the Clydesdale
is very much this kind of a thing.
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Do you remember
when horses were here?
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Yeah. But, I mean, I can remember
when there was horses here,
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but there's not much of it left.
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Oh, boy...
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This is a barn that would
have at one time
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had several horses in it.
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These would have been big horses.
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Clydesdales, the pre-eminent breed.
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The best breed.
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The most highly bred horses
in human history.
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And people were immensely
proud of their horses.
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The breed was born in
the Clyde Valley,
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to the south-west of Glasgow.
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Everything that came from the Clyde
was of incredible quality.
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You know, the ships,
the locomotives, steam engines.
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And the Clydesdale horse.
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ARCHIVE FOOTAGE: In the lowlands
of Scotland,
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let's not forget the great work
that's been done,
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and is still being done,
by the ploughman and his good
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servant, the horse. The heavy horse.
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Scotland's pride and joy -
the Clydesdale.
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You need a really well assembled
musculoskeletal frame
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to get great power from the rear end
of a horse,
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because it's the great power
that gives it its ability
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to push into a collar and move,
you know, a tonne weight.
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And it's also the power you need
for a great riding horse.
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That's where the big horse race
started.
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The race to create
the biggest horses,
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which could produce the most power
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that would fuel the
agricultural revolutions
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and Industrial Revolution.
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PA SYSTEM: Second - Ronnie Black,
number 10.
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And third - number 11,
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Amazing Grace, from Sandy Aitken.
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Well done, Sandy.
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APPLAUSE
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I love coming to shows like this
because it really reminds me
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of just how long the Clydesdale
has been part
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of our culture, our history.
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That's a nice one.
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Is it square buckles, or...?
Yeah, it's proper square buckles.
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They're always putting
a hand on them and stroking them
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and trying to make them...
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Try and get them to be your friend.
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Mess on legs.
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But we don't panic.
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It's a proper kind of Clydesdale
show as well.
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There's a bit of a focus about it.
Well, the only one that really gets
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big numbers in that scenario
is the Highland. Highland, yeah.
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PA SYSTEM: Those who are taking
part in the pairs competition...
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I think my earliest memory
is of being at
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what must have been a country fair
or a fete in Dumfries.
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And I must have been really wee,
not much more than a toddler.
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I remember gripping onto the front
of the saddle and looking down,
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and the movement of the horse
going like that,
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and thinking, "Oh!"
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When, I think, I was seven,
I started proper riding lessons.
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Thereafter, I became hooked.
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When I was a kid, shows
with Clydesdale horses
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would have been packed and it would
have been really exciting,
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it would have been a real
celebration -
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go and see the big horses.
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Today, it's a much thinner affair,
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there are fewer people
and older people.
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Some of the older photography,
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when they had dappled greys,
they had horses of all colours,
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which I think would have been
quite amazing to see.
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Today, there's really only one
colour of horse, and that's brown.
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And also there's not many horses.
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Well, this class that's just
being shown just now,
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in the mid '90s there could have
been 20 in that class,
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and there are three today.
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So we're not...
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..quite sure why.
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And that was number 27
from Charles Jamieson...
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The overwhelming fact of
the Clydesdale is that the horse
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and everything that
surrounds it is ageing.
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Catalogues are available
from the marquee
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at the top end of the arena.
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Good morning, everybody.
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Good morning, Joseph.
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Ugh...
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Hello, Phoebe.
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When I went to Glasgow School
of Art, I was 18
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and the awful thing was
I had to sell my horse
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because no-one else in the family
rode, and it scarred me very deeply.
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I still have
a lot of regret over it.
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I always had a heartening to go
back and to ride again.
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So I decided I wanted a Clydesdale.
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I wanted a black one.
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The blacks really appealed to me.
And it's a personal thing -
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I just think that they look amazing.
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I had a look around and I couldn't
find any black horses in the UK.
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So I ended up with this one.
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He's an American Clydesdale...
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..from Oregon.
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Joe.
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He's got a really expressive face.
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He's very old-fashioned
in style.
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He's a big horse by any...any
measure.
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He's about....just a shade
under 18 hands.
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Woo!
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What makes the Clydesdale
so special is, for me,
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just the sheer power of them.
They are just magnificent.
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Guys like Joe can be so light,
absolutely light as a feather,
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and when you get that power
with the lightness,
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it's a really special thing.
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When I'd made the decision to get
a black Clydesdale, I got
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really interested in why there were
no black horses in the UK.
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What had happened
to the black horses?
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Where had they gone?
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I'm on my way to meet
Shona Harrison, whose partner,
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John Zawadski, sadly died
a few months ago.
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John was a real expert
in the Clydesdale world,
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and he travelled up and down the UK
to visit different shows.
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I think this is it.
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There's quite a lot
of horses around,
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a lot of stables round about,
as well. Yeah, there are.
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And there's a livery yard up there.
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I was born here, but I lived at
a farm further up the road.
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And then as soon as my dad
and all that retired and the farms
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were sold two years after that,
John and I bought the place back.
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Shona's family have been
in Clydesdales for generations,
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and I'm really hoping that she
can tell me more
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about John's thoughts on the breed.
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Come into John's office.
I'd love to!
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A lot of it's just as he left it,
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because it's going to take a long
time to go through things.
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Just watch the steps.
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Photographs galore.
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Fantastic.
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There's one called Grand National
that's used as a...
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It's W Johnson, 1918.
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I'm very interested in how the
horses change over the centuries.
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They definitely have changed
a lot. Over here...
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It's a very organised man.
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..as I was saying, the breed
histories are all down here.
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Clydesdale Horse Society history.
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All that up there's the history
of Clydesdale Horse Society.
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Just amazing. All the original
documents like newsletters, letters
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from the secretary,
that sort of thing.
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I'm just amazed.
It's not at all what I expected.
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What a job he's done.
It's just amazing.
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These are stallions, 19th century.
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So he's pieced together
all the stallion information.
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This is going back decades and
decades, you know, like centuries.
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It's a cornucopia.
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I've never known anything like it!
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So did John map out the bloodlines?
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Yes, he's got the male bloodlines.
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Oh, my God!
The illustrations, like, pre-camera.
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That's your Prince of Wales again.
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John Zawadski's bloodlines.
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And he's got two male bloodlines,
one for Prince of Wales and one
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for Darnley, both of whom
were foundation stallions.
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It's like layers thick with
information, bloodlines and people
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exchanging horses over hundreds
of miles and continents.
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What strikes me about these
documents is they were people
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with a long term view, building
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this industrial power plant
of an animal.
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Just glorious! Gorgeous.
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Shona's collection includes antique
sales catalogues from Scotland's
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most famous breeder
of Clydesdales, Lawrence Drew.
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They are just exceptional,
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I've never seen catalogues
like this ever.
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They are absolutely exceptional.
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It's a sale catalogue for
the Rolls Royces of horses.
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Lawrence Drew, he knew he was doing.
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You know, when you look at Prince
of Wales, I'm sure there
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must be a note somewhere
about his colour,
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but he looks like
a very black horse.
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I've not seen a Clydesdale stallion
in the herd today
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that looks like this horse.
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Ross-o! Mm-hmm?
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This is the treat.
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Oh, aye.
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Wow. It's the catalogue for
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the dispersal sale of
Lawrence Drew's herd.
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This is 150 years old.
That's amazing.
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That's Prince of Wales,
one of the foundation sires.
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And these are all drawn.
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Wow. It's just awesome.
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What a size of a horse!
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Look at that! It's incredible.
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A lovely smile as well!
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I would too, I think, if I were him!
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I missed this the first time.
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And I looked at the next page,
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and then I flicked back and I found
that. Does this still exist?
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I don't know.
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Merryton was where the first
Clydesdale horses
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were really created.
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So what had happened
to the black horses?
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I started to dig.
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At Merryton, there's a big arch
entrance with what looks like
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a statue of a Clydesdale horse
on top, and lots of people
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arriving with their horses.
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I'm relieved to find
that Merryton was still a farm.
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It looks like the baronial tower
is still there and many
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of the original buildings.
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It'd be really nice
to track down some
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of those black Clydesdale
bloodlines,
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because the breed originally
had a strong black component.
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Merryton. This is where
Lawrence Drew had his operation.
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He was absolutely clear
that his horses
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weren't just to be beautiful.
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They had to be functional,
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and, boy, they had to be sound.
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Merryton is where it all began.
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Your dad said that it was
70 years, I think, he arrived
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here after Lawrence Drew had left.
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Did he tell you stories
about Lawrence Drew's era?
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One of the things I remember Dad
saying was that many
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of the stable hands
were actually female.
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Gosh, it's absolutely huge.
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It's stunning, isn't it?
It's really lovely.
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I love the colour of the sandstone
and the different textures.
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I think these will be oak beams.
They are lovely.
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Big building.
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And it's been for big horses.
The dimensions...
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Dad said... Well, you can see where
the stalls were,
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you know, straight in front. Uh-huh.
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That was where the
original stalls were.
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Do you see the height in
the dimension of them?
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The big upright and then...
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I think Dad said there was 22.
22.
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I mean, when this was full
it must have been quite some sight,
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and there'd just be those gorgeous
horse bottoms all lined up.
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Merryton was owned by the Hamiltons.
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The Dukes of Hamilton were
immensely wealthy.
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Merryton was one of the big farms
on the Duke of Hamilton's estate,
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and Lawrence Drew was one of
the Duke of Hamilton's men.
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It's really interesting to be here
in Chatelherault, where the Dukes
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of Hamilton had their power base.
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And they thought on a big scale.
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Their horse breeding
was on that same grand scale.
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Lawrence Drew,
he was an entrepreneur.
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He was a showman.
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Drew knew where he was going
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with the commercial part
of the business.
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Thousands of horses were exported,
and because this was very much
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a business, they were building
a brand and this was a big plan.
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This was a worldwide plan.
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This was about exporting
to Australia and Russia and Italy
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and North America and Canada.
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And the blacks had been exported
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as being amongst the highest
quality.
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It would have been quite
a busy place.
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But it's very quiet now.
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If Drew had lived, I would just
love to have seen
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what he could have bred.
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But he died,
hence the dispersal sale.
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This sale would have drawn people
from all over the world,
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and apparently 6,000 people
attended it.
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So all of his stock, which was
really, you know, a treasure trove
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of the breed, it was being dispersed
throughout the world.
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I had a hunch that, because
Clydesdale horses had been exported,
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that there was a package
of genetic material
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that had been exported with them.
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I want to understand more
about the underlying health
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of the Scottish herd...
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..and get a snapshot of whether
or not our gene pool is healthy.
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I quickly discovered that the UK
has a very small and shrinking pool
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of Clydesdale horses, which means
it's very hard to keep the breed
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healthy in the future.
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I looked a bit further and started
talking to people about it,
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talking to the vets about it,
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and they started telling me
about problems with the breed.
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I started asking questions of
the people who bred the horses.
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We lost five one year in a summer.
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And they were telling me shocking
stories of the mortality rate
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and issues of breeding,
like massively
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reduced fertility in mares
and stallions,
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and increased foal mortality,
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which means there are
simply fewer horses
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and there's less genetic diversity.
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Clear signals of the breed
entering what they call
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the extinction vortex.
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And, unless you react quickly,
the whole breed can just collapse.
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And that changed everything.
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Everyone knows there's a problem.
Nobody knows what the solution is,
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and nobody wants to act first.
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I just found it just incredibly sad.
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So, like, I couldn't possibly not
try and do something about it.
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I really needed to go and speak
to some scientists
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to find out exactly
what was happening.
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The first thing we need to find out
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is how healthy is the herd
in Scotland?
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I'm going to find somebody -
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somebody who has the knowledge
to find out
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what's happening and what needs
to be done.
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Secondly, we need to find out
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if there is an issue
with inbreeding.
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And the most important question
is can the breed survive?
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That is the really big question.
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Hi. Hi, I'm trying to get
through to Jessica Petersen.
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RINGING
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Hi, Janice.
Thanks for taking this call.
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I really appreciate it.
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I'm really hoping that you can help
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unravel this Clydesdale mystery.
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I'm trying to understand
how viable the genetic population
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is in our Clydesdale horses
in Scotland.
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I'm wondering if there's
a way that we can measure that,
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if that would be something
that you could help with.
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It seems like something
that we could get at
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using genetic data.
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How diverse is this population?
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Are the Scottish horses different
than North American horses?
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So definitely something
that's up my alley.
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Jessica has agreed to do a genetic
study of the Clydesdale populations
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in the USA, Canada and the UK,
and in order to do this
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she needs DNA from horses
in all three countries.
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By collecting that DNA, she can get
a snapshot of the diversity
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and therefore the health
of the populations
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in those respective countries.
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So Jessica is going to get 50
samples from Canada,
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50 samples from the USA,
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which leaves me to get 50 samples
from the UK, and that gives us 150
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hair follicle samples,
which is 150 bits of horse DNA.
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That should be great.
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We should be good to go with that.
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This is my little tool kit
for my genetic collections.
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It requires the breeder to provide
a hair sample
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of around 30 to 40 follicles,
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which are pulled from the mane
or the tail.
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And that's really it.
Then they're placed in a stamped,
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addressed envelope
and sent back to me.
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So it's not a huge job
for people to do.
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I'm going to do three horses
this morning.
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Joe is in his usual domain,
which is here.
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That's us.
That's our first sample.
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So that's about, I would say, 30, 40
hairs, with the roots intact.
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Stick that in an envelope.
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What I'm going to do this
afternoon is contact breeders
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in the UK independently, explain
to them the project
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and ask them to participate.
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Hi, it's Janice Kirkpatrick
trying to reach Caroline Reynolds
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regarding the Clydesdale
DNA information.
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VOICEOVER: There's this feeling
generally
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within the kind of Clydesdale owners
in Scotland and in the UK
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that everything's just OK.
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You know, they see the horse
outside in the field
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and the horse looks healthy,
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and I don't think we've quite got
the urgency of the situation.
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But people have been actually
OK about it, saying,
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"Yes, we will do it."
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Thanks. Thank you.
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Need to count the bags.
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One, two, three, four...
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You're a star. Thank you.
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It would just really help.
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16 samples. Fantastic.
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I'm the sort of individual behind
the Clydesdale project.
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Another two. I've got another two.
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Ah. Blackstone.
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Thank you, Bob.
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Two, three, four. 36...
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..so far, so we need another 14.
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Thank you so much. Bye.
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49, 50.
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We actually have...we have
50 samples.
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We've got 50 samples.
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That means that we've actually
managed to find
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enough DNA to do our survey
of the Clydesdale population.
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It's really good.
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This just came in the post
for you, Janice. Oh.
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Thanks, Zoe.
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These are the results
of the DNA analysis.
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Ah.
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"Data generated from these samples
support what you suspected.
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"Based upon the relative isolation
and small population size
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"of Clydesdales in Scotland,
they do have less diversity
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"than Clydesdales studied
from North America."
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And there is an increase
in inbreeding
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within the Scottish population.
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Jessica, I've only skimmed it, but
it seems that our hunch was right,
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that there is an issue
with genetic diversity.
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So, yes, the concern about
the Scottish population
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being very small in size held true
in that inbreeding estimates
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of the horses in Scotland
were generally quite a bit
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higher than from horses
in North America.
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And that goes back again
to the small population size
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where, if there's just not
a whole lot of horses,
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you're going to be mating relatives
to relatives, whether or not
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you are intending to do so.
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For the first time, I think
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we have definitive scientific
genetic proof
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that the Clydesdale herd
in Scotland is in danger.
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We have to do something about it.
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It suddenly dawned on me
that I could maybe bring back some
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new genetic material, new genetic
Clydesdale material to Scotland
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that would give it some diversity
and some sustainability.
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The very best horses were exported
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because they commanded
the highest prices.
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They were exported to Canada
from Glasgow, from Liverpool,
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and then from Canada they
went down into the United States
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and South America.
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When the genetic material
was dispersed, some pretty big herds
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were founded across Canada,
and some of the black bloodlines
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are in these herds today, the black
bloodlines that have their roots
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in the old stud books in Scotland.
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What I'm looking for
is a great-looking
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and great-performing
pregnant breeding mare,
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so I can create black Clydesdale
horses in Scotland.
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I think the time has now come
for the horse to come back home
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again to the place it was created.
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It's important that I bring
a horse back into the UK
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that is as different as possible
genetically from the horses
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that we have at the moment
because by doing that
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I will strengthen and widen
and deepen the genetic pool.
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Most Clydesdales exported
from Scotland
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ended up here, in Ontario.
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Many of them passed through
a really famous farm
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in Pickering Township,
which is just outside Toronto.
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We come here, where so many
of those horses landed,
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and it's like this...
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..almost Scottish-looking
landscape that's not unfamiliar.
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This place is called Thistle Ha',
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and it's where the Miller
family had their operations.
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The Miller family pretty much
controlled the transatlantic trade
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in Clydesdale horses
all that time ago.
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Welcome to Thistle Ha' Inn.
Oh, thank you. It's a lovely house.
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So this is a portrait
of my great-grandfather.
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He settled this farm
as a pioneer in 1839.
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It was the family business
in Canada and the United States.
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I recognise this name - Lord Harry.
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This Lord Harry poster
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was advertising when the horse is
available for breeding mares.
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It's wonderful.
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And he's by the very famous
Prince of Wales.
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So this is going right back
to the beginning of the herd books.
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Bred by Lawrence Drew,
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which was a famous Scottish
Clydesdale breeder.
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This is beautiful.
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He was a champion everywhere
he was shown.
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He was an unbeatable horse.
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What's amazing is that the Miller
family were the first and biggest
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importers of Clydesdales
from Scotland into Canada,
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and this small farm was once
the centre
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of the international
Clydesdale trade.
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After the Civil War,
they had to start rebuilding
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everything in the United States.
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A lot of horses were killed
in battles, so they came to Canada
495
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,120
to re-establish their herd.
496
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:12,360
The other thing that was
happening too
497
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,600
was the opening of the prairies.
498
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:22,480
To plough, harvest, cultivate a farm
that ran from horizon to horizon,
499
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,440
the Clydesdale was king.
500
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,480
TRAIN WHISTLE BLOWS
501
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,680
Wow.
502
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,160
TRAIN WHISTLE BLOWS
503
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,040
I've come to Saskatchewan
because there are
504
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,280
descendants of the original
horses that were exported
505
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,400
from Scotland to Canada
all these years ago.
506
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,600
SAT NAV: Turn left at the stop sign.
507
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,880
Here we go.
508
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,000
Yeah, I think we've got some
Clydesdales.
509
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,360
It's just such an amazing country.
It's so big,
510
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,680
you know, flat and vast
and endless.
511
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,080
It's so different from Scotland
and the land that we bred
512
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,000
those horses on originally.
513
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:50,400
With me I have got John Hankinson,
who is a longstanding good friend.
514
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,320
He's an equine manipulator.
515
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,000
He's a master farrier.
516
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,040
He's got a whole bunch of tools
in his box.
517
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,320
Let's just go in this way.
Is this it?
518
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,360
Yeah.
519
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,600
We're here.
520
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,600
At last!
521
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,840
CHILD SHOUTING
522
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,200
Janice, how are we doing?
Good to see you. Good to see you.
523
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,400
The place looks so different.
This is John. Hi there.
524
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,640
How are you doing? This is Derek.
Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.
525
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,880
Derek Cey is from a family of
Clydesdale breeders.
526
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,400
I think they're in their fifth
generation of Clydesdale breeding.
527
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,240
CAR HORN BLARES
528
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,760
They're coming.
529
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,880
They're coming. Look at the sight!
530
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,320
Awesome.
531
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,600
DEREK WHISTLES
532
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,800
Come on.
533
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,160
Hello.
534
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,560
Hello!
535
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,880
It's just great.
This is what I came here for.
536
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,120
It's just... It's like swimming
with horses.
537
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,320
It's just brilliant.
SHE LAUGHS
538
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,000
I mean, Derek's herd is vast
compared to anything
539
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,640
I can look at at home.
540
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,600
And it's very moving because it
evokes the images of these huge
541
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,880
studs that we had in Scotland
100 years ago, 150 years ago.
542
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,200
It's just such a treat to see that.
543
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,080
CHATTER
544
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,720
First impression -
is that where you start?
545
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:48,480
Janice was looking for a sound
horse, who's going to remain sound
546
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,080
for the next ten years.
547
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,360
John is so used to looking
548
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,480
at the minor discrepancies
in horse movement.
549
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,200
This is years spent looking at
thoroughbreds, where you're looking
550
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,240
at, you know, every time
they plant their feet
551
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:05,680
what bit strikes the ground -
is it the outside, is it the inside?
552
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,280
It takes years to kind of
tune your eye into that.
553
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,400
And one of my biggest
problems coming out here
554
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,520
was, like, if I came out on my own,
555
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,240
I'm never going to see
half this stuff.
556
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,320
I just do not have the skill
and experience to pick out
557
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,400
those little bits and pieces.
558
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,520
My face should tell you how I feel
about horse shopping today.
559
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,560
I'm very excited about it.
560
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,920
All of our land is named
around here, so we are going
561
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,280
to Keasey Pasture.
562
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,840
We'll be going to see Jack.
563
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,840
He is one of our three main
stallions in our operation.
564
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,760
Nice, big, gentle giant, and he
565
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,160
has his core mares with him
566
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,280
that he's been hanging out
with all summer, so...
567
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,800
It's going to be
a very long few days.
568
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,240
There's a lot of horses
to look at.
569
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:07,520
Can't wait to get started!
570
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,040
OK, so that's a yearling.
571
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,320
Mitzi is just behind,
if you want to have a better
572
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,640
look at her while she's
standing there.
573
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,480
So this is Mitzi.
This is Mitzi, yeah. Mitzi's nice.
574
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,560
How are you doing, my dear? Eh?
575
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,200
That is Bacardi,
nice little fancy mare.
576
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,960
I've got to be really objective.
577
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,960
When I see a horse I like,
I'll write down the name,
578
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,480
I'll take a photograph
on my phone.
579
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,520
I want a horse that has a good
length of neck,
580
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:09,000
because you need that in order
to produce a good riding horse.
581
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,160
It needs its neck to balance.
582
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,760
It needs big hindquarters.
583
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,680
Not fat hindquarters -
big, muscular hindquarters.
584
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,240
That's where the power comes.
585
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:19,280
The limbs have got to be straight.
586
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:29,480
I also want a horse that has got
really great rhythm, great movement,
587
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,240
that has got a kind of cadence
to its step.
588
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,520
Amber, a three-year-old.
589
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,440
She's got a little bit
of an attitude.
590
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,040
Can we take a closer look at her?
Yeah, you betcha.
591
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,080
She caught my eye, she caught John's
eye, and she's got nice shoulder...
592
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,280
All her zones are good.
593
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,760
And she's actually got quite
a nice rear end.
594
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,960
What do you think?
595
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:02,200
Yeah, I like it. Yeah. Yeah.
596
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,240
The other thing about Amber is
she is in foal.
597
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,920
Derek thinks it's
Willow Way Nightlight,
598
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,760
who is the big black stallion.
599
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,080
So that adds a different dimension.
600
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,880
He's quite a rare black
bloodline from an excellent
601
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,520
herd of Clydesdales.
602
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,440
A lot of checkmarks
you've got going there and stuff.
603
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,280
I'd like to see that book
when you're all done.
604
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,200
It's tiring because
you're concentrating.
605
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,480
You're thinking, I mustn't mess
this up. I mustn't miss something.
606
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,000
So where do you keep your
good ones, Derek?
607
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,400
THEY LAUGH
You know how that works.
608
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,280
So, Janice, what are your thoughts?
609
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,160
I really liked Amber.
610
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,800
What did you think?
611
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,320
I think you've mentioned the one
that I've got on my sort of list
612
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,080
as being the prime candidate.
613
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,040
She's in foal.
She's got the right attitude.
614
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,400
She's got a nice action.
615
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,280
She's good, clean-limbed.
Looks to tick all the boxes.
616
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,680
As I say, she, at the moment,
is the one that I'm thinking
617
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,720
is probably
the best one for you.
618
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,800
What's the plan now? Are we going
to do the hands on bit?
619
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,600
I think that would be a good idea.
620
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,080
I wanted a pair of eyes
on this horse
621
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,560
and a pair of hands
on this horse.
622
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,480
John's a very, very good judge
of how a horse
623
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,400
is put together physically.
624
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,440
That's you.
625
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,600
So far, so good.
626
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,240
John's also got a good feel
for personalities.
627
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,640
This is good.
628
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,960
A hell of a girl.
629
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,200
I like this one.
630
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,720
What are you...?
631
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:32,360
Awesome. Awesome? Yeah.
632
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,440
Thank you, John.
633
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,200
She's a cracking girl, isn't she?
She's... Yeah. Fabulous.
634
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,240
Hey, good girl.
635
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,800
And I think that really
affected John.
636
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,080
Very rarely he ever finds
a horse that tries so hard.
637
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,400
And he was just amazed that this
horse, which was really a wild
638
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,600
horse, was trying so hard
to understand what he wanted.
639
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,440
Team hug.
640
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,560
Team hug. Thank you.
641
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,640
I'm so pleased
that you came with me.
642
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,360
That's the right horse.
643
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,760
Her energy is just amazing.
644
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,760
Hey there.
645
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,600
VOICE ON PHONE:
Have you organised it?
646
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Yes, I've not organised it all
but, yes, we have a horse.
647
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,240
You are going to love her.
648
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,080
John is absolutely
in love with her.
649
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,680
Like, unbelievably in love with her.
650
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,920
What this horse is bringing
over is a whole toolkit of genetic
651
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,800
lovely things that could, you know,
take the Scottish herd in different
652
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,160
directions, and that for me
is really exciting.
653
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,720
This isn't just about even my
lifetime - this is about, you know,
654
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,560
other people's lifetimes.
655
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,240
Of all breeds, the Clydesdale
deserves a future.
656
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,880
Good run? Oh, not too bad.
657
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,680
Ah, so... Nice to meet you.
658
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,080
This is Amber.
659
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,360
Her maiden voyage.
660
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Come on, sweets.
661
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,760
Do you want to give her
a last petting?
662
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,240
Just everybody walk up
nice and slow there.
663
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:46,480
Oh. Atta girl.
664
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,840
All right.
665
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,440
CHILDREN: Bye, Amber!
There you guys go.
666
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,160
She's now got the beginning of
a very big journey to Scotland,
667
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,000
back to Clydesdale heartland.
668
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,520
Copy for your records.
Thank you.
669
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,600
That's everything done here.
670
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,880
So today is D-Day.
671
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,360
It really is the conclusion
of Amber's journey over here.
672
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,960
She's had 3,000 kilometres by road
and then another...
673
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,160
She's had an eight-hour journey
674
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,320
from Chicago that's been delayed
for five hours.
675
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,720
So she's going to be fairly tired.
676
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,440
I'm really looking
forward to seeing her.
677
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,200
My husband Ross hasn't seen
her at all.
678
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,200
So it's a big deal
for both of us, really.
679
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,240
Amber coped ridiculously well
with the travel.
680
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,080
It's now beginning to feel
a bit like Christmas.
681
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,720
I'm very relieved that
she is so...cool with everything.
682
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:34,720
She just looks really alert,
really interested in it all.
683
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,000
She's not fazed by it.
So that's good.
684
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,480
Oh...
685
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:56,360
Yeah, I don't need your help.
686
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,080
You're such a pest!
687
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,160
Come on, missus.
688
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,560
This is our Canadian lady.
689
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Don't be cheeky.
690
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,400
She's very cheeky.
691
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,120
I don't call my horses
by their pedigree names.
692
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,680
It's quite nice just to hang with
them for a while and find out
693
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,840
what their characters are like.
694
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,200
She just doesn't feel like an Amber.
695
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,640
She's not an amber light.
696
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,280
This horse is a full-on green light.
697
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,760
She was just so audacious
that I decided to call her
698
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,960
Jesse James after the outlaw.
699
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,800
Good girl. Good girl.
700
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,880
Right, Steve-o.
701
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,440
We've got John Morris, my local vet,
702
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,280
coming to have a look at Jesse.
703
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,720
SHE SIGHS
704
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:57,200
I'm knackered!
705
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,760
Is this your new girl, Janice?
706
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,040
This certainly is. Good girl.
707
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,040
Good girl.
708
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,040
All right, so these are the
identification documents
709
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,200
for the Clydesdale Horse Society.
710
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,120
She looks a very different type.
711
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,040
It's interesting to see
that there was another line
712
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,400
of Clydesdales differentiated
in another country.
713
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,240
In terms of her pregnancy,
714
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:32,200
we don't know quite how far on
she is.
715
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,960
It's really very difficult
to try and get a date.
716
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,720
It's not unusual to find that people
sit up for about two weeks
717
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:41,160
waiting for their mare to foal,
718
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,280
and then they go to bed
because they're so tired,
719
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,360
and then guess what happens -
they foal that night.
720
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,320
And are there any particular
features of a Clydesdale birth
721
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,960
as opposed to a normal horse birth?
722
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:58,880
Clydesdales can be more difficult.
723
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,520
If the foal is not in the right
position, then they can get stuck.
724
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,800
Beyond that, there's a sort of inner
sack - normally the foal bursts
725
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,960
through that, as part of
the birth process.
726
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,120
But if the foal is born
and the sack is over its face,
727
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,760
then it can't breathe.
728
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:21,640
It's quite scary stuff, actually,
729
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,880
especially when it's horses
that you love.
730
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,400
If things go wrong,
they go terribly wrong,
731
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,760
and they go wrong very,
very quickly.
732
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,240
I've got a very good imagination.
733
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:37,280
I'm very good at imagining
horror stories.
734
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,800
To re-establish a viable Clydesdale
herd in Scotland
735
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,360
is going to require a lot
of support.
736
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,760
The change from the wooden plough,
737
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,920
sort of early 1800s, through to your
738
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,800
typical Scottish ploughs
to your North America...
739
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,080
Is that a Ronaldsay plough, the
little, tiny mobile one? Yes. Ah.
740
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,600
Bob Powell's
an agricultural historian.
741
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,880
He understands everything
Clydesdale, and there's not much
742
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,480
he doesn't know about this horse.
Like me,
743
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,200
he thinks there's a really deep,
almost ancient passion
744
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,440
for the Clydesdale
that I need to tap into.
745
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,280
The old boys that I speak to,
746
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,280
they really miss the horses,
by and large, you know?
747
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,280
People used to ignore me when I went
748
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,480
through the countryside
on a normal horse.
749
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,440
The moment I started riding
Clydesdales,
750
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,040
old guys would open gates for me,
they'd stand and talk,
751
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,840
they'd tell me stuff.
752
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,160
There was a clear... Some of
it's misty-eyed, I'm sure,
753
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,120
but I think they also missed
the companionship.
754
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,240
Oh, I mean, there's no doubt.
755
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:02,520
I mean, going into a stable
and having something sort of snuffle
756
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,640
at you, and it's a warm body
and it's living...
757
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,720
..I mean, is different.
758
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:11,080
And, you know, a lot of these
old guys, I mean, some of them
759
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,880
may have never worked horses,
but their fathers will have had them
760
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,360
and they'll have been in the
stables when they were kids.
761
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,560
Yeah. And the memory's still there.
The memory's still there. Yeah.
762
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,240
And, you know, for all of us,
whatever our memories are,
763
00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:27,440
for most of us, anyway, you know,
764
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,120
they bring back happy times.
They all smile.
765
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,960
One thing that's become
really clear to me about how we save
766
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:41,400
the Clydesdale is, if we can't tie
it to a hopeful future, it will die.
767
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:47,800
I really want to create
the world centre for this horse
768
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,640
that has got some permanence,
that's got some
769
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,760
sustainability going forward.
770
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,440
That builds some value
into the horses...
771
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,600
..so that there's a market of people
who want to buy them and look
772
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,120
after them and enjoy them
and keep breeding them.
773
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,080
The actual archway is 17th century.
774
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,720
I've not been here for years.
775
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:37,920
Absolutely years.
776
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,680
I think Pollock Park stables
are fabulous.
777
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,120
They are fabulous.
778
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,560
They are beautiful
early 18th-century stables.
779
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,040
So they fit entirely with
the story of the Clydesdale.
780
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,600
It's actually done well
to stay up so well. It has.
781
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,880
The roof's not exactly straight
and I see the pigeons have moved in
782
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,520
but it's not the worst.
783
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:03,800
So these would have been
the original stables.
784
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,200
Tell a few stories.
785
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,120
Lots of teeth marks and foot marks,
but no horses.
786
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,080
Be great to get them back again.
Oh, it certainly would.
787
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,040
That's the plan. Yes, I hope so.
788
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,640
It seems to me that Pollock
House stables is a bit of a gift
789
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,440
because it's right in the centre of
Glasgow, in the Clyde Valley -
790
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,680
the source of this
amazing Clydesdale horse.
791
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,280
I'm doing a brain dump,
792
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,840
which just gets out of my head
and onto a whiteboard
793
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:02,360
the different dimensions
of this project.
794
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:09,600
Pollock Park could be the thing
that helps save the horse.
795
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,640
I'm going to start speaking to the
people who actually own the park,
796
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,800
which is Glasgow City Council.
797
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,320
Hello. Hello, hello.
Nice to meet you. how are you?
798
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,560
I'm very well, thanks.
Good. Come in, please.
799
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,200
Thanks for taking time to see me.
No, a pleasure.
800
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,040
So, Janice, the stable blocks
at Pollock House and in the park
801
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,760
have obviously been derelict
and mainly unused for many years,
802
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,240
many decades in some parts
of the building.
803
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:54,040
In terms of being able to bring them
back to life and use them
804
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,920
differently, what is the plan
that you've brought today?
805
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:02,040
Well, it's really bringing
the horse back to Glasgow.
806
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:06,440
It's quite interesting,
when you look at the buildings
807
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,480
on the estate, I hadn't been down
to see them for decades, actually.
808
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,080
The side that's nearest the river
is the biggest problem.
809
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,720
And apparently it's been shored up
since either the late '50s
810
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,560
or the early '60s.
811
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,960
But it's all repairable
812
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,000
and it's in much better condition
than I thought.
813
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,760
It can help us be better.
814
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,800
It can also help save the horse.
815
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,120
Great. I mean, I think
that's really exciting.
816
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,920
There's so much potential
behind that story.
817
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,040
It's something that we should
certainly be supporting as a city.
818
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,440
That's a Clydesdale.
819
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,360
It is such a cracking painting.
820
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,680
There's a little grey
in the background as well.
821
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,520
Absolutely wonderful.
822
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,800
The murals tell
the story of Glasgow,
823
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,240
and I think a pride of place
for the Clydesdale.
824
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:12,800
Trying to keep sight of Jesse today
because she's really close to giving
825
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,840
birth, and I don't want her to creep
off and give birth in the field
826
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,680
shelter or in some other
corner of the field.
827
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,640
She loves having her udders
scratched.
828
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,360
That's a huge udder.
829
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,680
I mean, that udder feels and
looks pretty fully formed.
830
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,080
There's always a worry,
you always think about
831
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,400
what's going to go wrong.
832
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,680
I try very hard to make
sure that Ross is at home
833
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,120
when we're in this foaling window.
834
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,120
But it could happen during the day,
I could be on my own.
835
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,480
The muscles around her pelvis
are slackening off,
836
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,320
ready for her giving birth.
837
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,400
Because things happen
really quickly in foaling,
838
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,760
this is me being organised.
839
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,040
I didn't want to get caught up in
the action and not know what to do.
840
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,960
At what point does it get dangerous?
841
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,320
Just watching the time again,
with the foal standing, sucking.
842
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,760
There's a one, two, three
rule, which is foal standing
843
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,560
within an hour, sucking within two
hours, and placenta passed
844
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,960
within three hours.
845
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,440
If anything goes wrong,
it goes catastrophically wrong
846
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,840
very, very quickly.
847
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:05,920
We installed a little Wi-Fi camera,
which is brilliant
848
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:11,160
because it connects to my mobile
phone or my other devices,
849
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,880
and it means I can watch what's
happening in the foaling box
850
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,600
so I can check during the night
and just see where she's at,
851
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,000
and if there's much movement, the
camera tells me there's movement.
852
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,920
All we can do now is wait.
853
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:15,280
I want to bring people together
who have an interest in the future
854
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,520
of the Clydesdale horse
in Pollock Park.
855
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,600
So, breeders' societies,
856
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,600
there are those of us
who are individuals.
857
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,120
There's no real mechanism for us
all to come together, you know?
858
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,280
There's people know people,
you know, see people at shows
859
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:43,080
and all the rest, but actually
as a group with a common passion,
860
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,840
it doesn't really exist.
861
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,080
Around 30% of Clydesdale foals
are dying from a range of disorders
862
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,480
commonly associated with
a diminishing population
863
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,800
and a thinning gene pool,
and compared to most other kind
864
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,000
of common horse breeds,
deaths are really rare.
865
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,720
So 30% is a huge number.
866
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,240
And it's heartbreaking.
867
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,600
It's heartbreaking for breeders
and it's heartbreaking for the mares
868
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,560
who can carry their foals for a year
before they give birth.
869
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,240
We can do something about it.
870
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,920
What I'd like to do now
is to explore how we might create
871
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,200
a sustainable world centre
here in Pollock Park.
872
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,320
Pollock stables -
873
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,040
something that's vibrant,
that's world-class.
874
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,840
I have been involved
in this project.
875
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,120
It makes sense to me, and this is
the moment when I discover
876
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,760
if it is actually going to make
sense to anybody else.
877
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,080
SHE LAUGHS
878
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,760
So there's a lot riding on it.
879
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,600
All breeders as well,
880
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,040
I think we need to actually
work as one.
881
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,520
We need to research old methods, try
to find a way of replicating that,
882
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,720
look at what's missing.
883
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,200
We're seeing how important
884
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,720
it is to have somebody like Janice,
who has the energy and drive
885
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,840
to just say to people,
"Let's do it."
886
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,040
The urgency of the situation
to sort the gene pool out
887
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,920
and have a breeding plan that will
ensure the health
888
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,040
and the continuity of this breed.
889
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,960
It was really good, really positive.
Really positive.
890
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,080
I really feel that we can make
something happen.
891
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,360
I feel very good about it.
892
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,800
You know when something feels
right, you just know it.
893
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,240
Hi there. It's Janice Kirkpatrick
at Lindsayston.
894
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,640
I've a mare who I think
might foal tonight.
895
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,240
Thank you. Thanks.
896
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,320
It got to half past five
in the morning and...
897
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:08,960
Nothing was happening. ..nothing.
898
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,440
So I went back to sleep.
899
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,120
HORSE WHINNIES SOFTLY
900
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,080
I don't like looking back at that
bit of film very much.
901
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,200
The foal can't breathe on her own
yet because her face is completely
902
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,960
covered in this amniotic sack
that has to be removed.
903
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,040
And Jesse needs
to break the sack,
904
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,240
she needs to do it quickly
so the foal doesn't suffocate.
905
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,840
Jesse just instinctively knows
that she's got to get the sack
906
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,640
off the face of her foal
and help her breathe.
907
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,160
Woke up again...
908
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,440
..ten past six, and...
909
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,640
..there's this little white face
peering out from the straw
910
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,560
at the back of the loose box.
911
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,400
Absolutely shocked.
912
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,360
It was like, where the
hell did that come from?
913
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,200
Ross is going, "There's a face!
914
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,960
"There's a face!" I woke Janice up.
915
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,800
It's a wee girl!
916
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,160
A wee girl!
917
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,160
That's a good girl.
918
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,200
Yeah. Your beautiful foal, yeah.
919
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,040
Yeah, that's a good girl.
920
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,280
HORSE WHINNIES
921
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,760
That's your mum!
922
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,520
When Jesse was pregnant,
923
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,800
I was convinced that this foal
wanted to be called Snowy,
924
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,840
and Ross thought I was mad.
925
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,800
She's got a big white face, and
she's this weird lavender colour
926
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,200
with flecks of white through
her coat, so she is quite
927
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,600
a snowy horse.
928
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,960
She'll go pretty much black.
929
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,360
Thanks for coming along, John.
I really appreciate it.
930
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,040
She's finding it really hard
to stand.
931
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:35,120
And we've just been doing a
combination of letting her sleep...
932
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,120
..she then gets up. She can actually
latch onto the teat now,
933
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,240
but she can't stand for long.
934
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,360
Oh, oh... She's so slippy.
935
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:06,120
We really want to get Snowy
standing so that she can suckle
936
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,360
from Jesse and get milk, especially
the first milk, which is called
937
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,560
colostrum, which has got
antibodies in it, which will help
938
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,280
build her immune system.
939
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:21,360
And that's one of the things
that can cause mortality in foals,
940
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,680
is not getting enough colostrum.
941
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:35,200
We thought, oh, my God,
something's going wrong here.
942
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,240
The structure of the foal's stomach
changes after eight hours
943
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,160
and it becomes impossible
for the foal then to benefit
944
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,680
from this immunity given to it
by its mothers milk.
945
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,080
John wants to make sure
that we've got her immune system
946
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,080
kicked in, so he's going to...he's
putting a tube into her stomach and
947
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,520
putting in...quite a lot of
colostrum.
948
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:20,280
He's got to be very careful to get
the tube into the stomach,
949
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:21,800
not the lungs.
950
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,680
See it there? Yeah.
951
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,200
And if we can see it... Yeah.
It's in the right place.
952
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,840
..it means it's not in the airway.
It's away down here.
953
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,440
Snowy's... Snore and drink
at the same time.
954
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,600
Just pull it off. That's good.
955
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,800
There we go. Well done.
956
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,680
So all that milk in you,
you're going to be strong now.
957
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,080
There we go.
958
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:59,200
Now she's had some colostrum,
the biggest problem is getting
959
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,880
them up and getting them sucking
within a reasonable amount of time.
960
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,760
Yeah, good girl.
961
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,880
Up we go...
962
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,680
Get it right here,
you're a wee bit too far back again.
963
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,760
She's going for the right bit.
964
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,120
It's always in my mind that
I could lose a foal,
965
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,560
I could lose a mare.
966
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,160
I really, really, really want
this foal to suckle.
967
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,680
The sooner she can stand up
on her own and suck, the better.
968
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,720
If only she could stand
on her own, it would be perfect.
969
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,600
HORSE WHINNIES
970
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,560
Whoa!
971
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,960
And we're up!
972
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,400
Oh!
973
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,440
That's it...
974
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,640
Are you going to be a big grey girl?
Are you?
975
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,480
Are you going to be a black roan?
976
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:11,840
Are you going to be black?
977
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,240
Have you got little teeth?
Are these your teeth?
978
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,400
They're tiny teeth.
979
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,000
Imagine having tiny little teeth
like that.
980
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:23,840
Yeah.
981
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,680
Good girl.
982
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,680
So I never intended to have spent
this year
983
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,280
like I've spent this year.
984
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,720
I really, really love my
Clydesdales.
985
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,400
Come.
986
01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:00,640
I think they're brilliant big people
to hang with,
987
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,120
and I think the world's a better
place for them being here.
988
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,280
Come on, Janice.
989
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,600
THEY LAUGH
990
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:15,200
I believe I've at least
started the journey of helping
991
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,480
them flourish again.
992
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,000
I have a great belief that others
will join me.
993
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,680
How could you not be excited
about something like this,
994
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,640
that was created
in this place?
995
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,160
We need to be proud of it
and own it and embrace it,
996
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,040
and make sure it has
a bright, shiny future.
997
01:13:40,305 --> 01:14:40,411
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