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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,888 --> 00:00:08,192 If I say the word holocaust what brings to mind 2 00:00:09,728 --> 00:00:11,008 I mentioned something like this 3 00:00:12,544 --> 00:00:13,568 Concentration camp 4 00:00:14,848 --> 00:00:15,872 Barbed wire 5 00:00:16,384 --> 00:00:17,664 Train loads of victim 6 00:00:18,432 --> 00:00:20,224 Gas Chambers and crematoria 7 00:00:22,272 --> 00:00:23,808 Places like a house fits 8 00:00:24,064 --> 00:00:25,600 And the system of mass murder 9 00:00:28,672 --> 00:00:34,816 I think most of us assume that this was always the predetermined destination 10 00:00:35,072 --> 00:00:39,168 Designed from the outset and some great master plan of extermination 11 00:00:40,448 --> 00:00:41,216 It wasn't 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:48,384 It wasn't a master plan for this it's Origins were chaotic and spont 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:54,784 Genius 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,392 An improvised Mass executions 15 00:00:59,648 --> 00:01:05,536 It's believed the more than a million Jews were murdered 16 00:01:06,304 --> 00:01:12,448 In thousands of random killings that erupted all across Eastern Europe 17 00:01:13,216 --> 00:01:19,360 In the Holocaust of bullets 18 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,368 Largely lost 19 00:01:30,624 --> 00:01:36,768 Forgotten for more than 80 years this first chapter of the greatest crime in 20 00:01:37,792 --> 00:01:40,352 Is now being fully revealed for the first time 21 00:01:41,376 --> 00:01:43,936 Thanks to newly discovered aerial photographs 22 00:01:44,448 --> 00:01:46,496 An advances in forensic detection 23 00:01:48,288 --> 00:01:49,568 Finding lost victims 24 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,896 Uncovering the true scale of The Killing 25 00:01:54,944 --> 00:01:59,808 He began in Earnest in the midst of Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941 26 00:02:01,088 --> 00:02:04,416 Atrocities grew in scale and savagery 27 00:02:08,256 --> 00:02:10,048 Until just 6 months later 28 00:02:10,304 --> 00:02:12,096 Bullets gave way to gas 29 00:02:12,608 --> 00:02:13,888 In the first death camps 30 00:02:14,144 --> 00:02:15,680 Of the final solution 31 00:02:17,472 --> 00:02:23,616 My name is James Belgian I'm a historian and Holocaust 32 00:02:23,872 --> 00:02:30,016 Specialist at the Imperial War Museum and this film tells a story that has never been fully 33 00:02:31,552 --> 00:02:37,696 Of the crucial 6 months that ignited the Holocaust 34 00:02:57,152 --> 00:02:59,712 If you going to search for the events that started the Holocaust 35 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,808 Cambridge University Library might seem a strange place to look 36 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,160 But a researcher here 37 00:03:08,416 --> 00:03:09,952 Thinks he can find that start 38 00:03:10,464 --> 00:03:13,024 Using second world war aerial archives 39 00:03:16,096 --> 00:03:17,120 How are you good to see 40 00:03:19,168 --> 00:03:20,960 Let me show you what we've been putting together 41 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:22,752 This is 42 00:03:23,008 --> 00:03:26,592 Map of the German reconnaissance and our survey photography 43 00:03:26,848 --> 00:03:28,896 Taken during the second World War 44 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:39,136 I have photographs taken by the Germans primarily over Central and Eastern Europe 45 00:03:39,904 --> 00:03:44,512 But if we're looking for the ramshackle beginnings of the Holocaust as it were the sort of ad 46 00:03:45,024 --> 00:03:46,048 The start of it 47 00:03:48,096 --> 00:03:49,120 One of the things 48 00:03:58,336 --> 00:04:00,384 They have a photographing evidence of Aaron crimes 49 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,176 And there's a good example of this 50 00:04:03,968 --> 00:04:05,248 Possibly 51 00:04:14,464 --> 00:04:17,280 The German border here 52 00:04:22,399 --> 00:04:26,751 The Jewish inhabitants it was about 20% 30% Jewish before the war 53 00:04:27,775 --> 00:04:28,799 They would have 54 00:04:29,055 --> 00:04:29,823 In the houses 55 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:31,871 Of the two Jewish streets here 56 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:34,175 I'm listening 57 00:04:34,943 --> 00:04:37,759 And on the 22nd of 58 00:04:38,015 --> 00:04:43,135 June 1941 of course the Germans pushed East and within 59 00:04:43,903 --> 00:04:46,207 Literally 24 hours of coming over the 60 00:04:46,975 --> 00:04:48,511 The board of the Germans are destroyed 61 00:04:50,559 --> 00:04:51,583 You can see 62 00:04:52,863 --> 00:04:54,143 How are you here was burned 63 00:04:54,399 --> 00:04:54,911 Turn that 64 00:04:55,679 --> 00:05:01,823 You're so striking to me that these forces come through here from this direction and I mean literally what within a few 100 m of the German 65 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:03,359 What do they come through and they 66 00:05:03,615 --> 00:05:04,895 This this 67 00:05:05,151 --> 00:05:07,199 Incident happens here so quickly 68 00:05:07,711 --> 00:05:09,503 So soon so close 69 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:10,783 Well look at 70 00:05:11,807 --> 00:05:12,575 If you look 71 00:05:26,399 --> 00:05:28,959 It's not part of the Agricultural landscape is not a path 72 00:05:29,471 --> 00:05:30,751 I think this is a trench 73 00:05:31,263 --> 00:05:32,799 We have certain amount of 74 00:05:35,359 --> 00:05:37,407 To sort of indicate that this is precisely where 75 00:05:37,663 --> 00:05:39,199 The Jewish men have been marched 76 00:05:39,455 --> 00:05:42,015 Up up the street in which they had lived 77 00:05:43,295 --> 00:05:44,319 I'm with then shot to death 78 00:05:44,831 --> 00:05:45,599 Unbur 79 00:05:46,367 --> 00:05:47,135 In that Trench 80 00:05:48,671 --> 00:05:49,695 So I've been up 81 00:05:50,719 --> 00:05:54,815 I've been circling this question how do we get to the huge 82 00:05:55,327 --> 00:05:58,911 Boss catastrophic Act of mass violence mass murder 83 00:06:00,447 --> 00:06:01,471 And it's possible 84 00:06:02,239 --> 00:06:03,007 Likely 85 00:06:04,287 --> 00:06:05,055 Is where it began 86 00:06:05,823 --> 00:06:06,591 Sorry 87 00:06:09,663 --> 00:06:12,479 If Chris has found a possible start point for the holoca 88 00:06:12,991 --> 00:06:14,783 Why is it in the Soviet Union 89 00:06:15,039 --> 00:06:16,831 As late as 1941 90 00:06:17,855 --> 00:06:23,999 Head 91 00:06:24,255 --> 00:06:28,863 Always envisage the world free of his two great enemies Jews 92 00:06:29,375 --> 00:06:30,399 Communists 93 00:06:30,655 --> 00:06:36,799 By 19 94 00:06:37,055 --> 00:06:38,591 40 he conquered half of Europe 95 00:06:39,103 --> 00:06:42,175 And have millions of Jews rounded up and putting ghettos 96 00:06:44,223 --> 00:06:47,807 His intention had always been to get rid of them entirely 97 00:06:48,063 --> 00:06:51,135 But there was no concrete plan for how to do it 98 00:06:51,647 --> 00:06:55,231 Then June 1941 99 00:06:55,743 --> 00:07:01,887 He sets out to destroy his other great enemy Bolshevik communism 100 00:07:08,543 --> 00:07:14,687 Hitler had always branded communism a Jew 101 00:07:14,943 --> 00:07:21,087 Conspiracy so his invasion of the Soviet Union offered the perfect opportunity 102 00:07:21,343 --> 00:07:26,207 To Target both enemies at once 103 00:07:26,463 --> 00:07:32,607 Dodge day on the border of Soviet Lithuania and Nazi Germany was right on the front 104 00:07:32,863 --> 00:07:39,007 I'm lying of that invasion 105 00:07:39,263 --> 00:07:45,407 The Vermont today sweat into this whole area 106 00:07:45,663 --> 00:07:51,807 I will charge with this instruction from Hitler and the commanders of the army that this was a war of annihilation they were coming 107 00:07:52,063 --> 00:07:58,207 Going through this space to decimate it the order 108 00:07:58,463 --> 00:08:04,607 What's for communism to be eradicated 109 00:08:04,863 --> 00:08:08,959 No specific order was given to kill Jews 110 00:08:09,215 --> 00:08:13,823 Yeah there was a monument here in God's day 111 00:08:14,079 --> 00:08:17,151 Exactly where Chris's photos showed a trench 112 00:08:23,551 --> 00:08:25,087 It's on the 24th of June 113 00:08:25,343 --> 00:08:28,159 2 days off to the gym invasion of the Soviet Union 114 00:08:28,671 --> 00:08:29,951 Come on they're in this area 115 00:08:30,207 --> 00:08:31,231 My name is Burma 116 00:08:31,487 --> 00:08:33,791 Instructed the 200g should be rounded up 117 00:08:34,303 --> 00:08:35,839 They should be bought here 118 00:08:37,631 --> 00:08:38,399 They should be 119 00:08:40,191 --> 00:08:44,031 Tend to think of military orders within the German Army at this period 120 00:08:44,287 --> 00:08:45,311 Is all coming from the top 121 00:08:45,823 --> 00:08:49,151 The people at the top telling the people on the ground what to do that's not what happens here 122 00:08:50,687 --> 00:08:55,039 Really important because actually what happens is people on the ground like Burma take their own in 123 00:08:56,319 --> 00:09:00,671 Hitler was always wanted to remove juice from Europe and here these men take the initiative 124 00:09:00,927 --> 00:09:03,743 Way possible 125 00:09:06,303 --> 00:09:12,447 To murder and it starts a process of mass murder 126 00:09:12,703 --> 00:09:18,847 The spreads by Wildfire across this whole territory and the numbers grow and they grow 127 00:09:19,103 --> 00:09:22,687 And they grow 128 00:09:22,943 --> 00:09:29,087 Hitler's head of security was SS Chief Heinrich Himmler Himmler 129 00:09:29,343 --> 00:09:35,487 Created special killing squads called inserts Groupon to follow in the wake of the army and eradicate Hitler's polit 130 00:09:35,743 --> 00:09:36,255 Enemies 131 00:09:39,071 --> 00:09:41,119 Capitalizing on Burma's initiative 132 00:09:41,375 --> 00:09:42,655 His deputy hydr 133 00:09:43,167 --> 00:09:46,495 Issued an instruction that any Jew working for the communist state 134 00:09:47,263 --> 00:09:48,031 Must be shot 135 00:09:51,615 --> 00:09:54,687 For Ein sets gripping teams were ready to carry out that order 136 00:09:54,943 --> 00:09:57,759 Across all newly conquered Soviet territory 137 00:09:59,807 --> 00:10:02,111 I'm following onto scorpion a from God's day 138 00:10:02,367 --> 00:10:03,135 Into Latvia 139 00:10:03,903 --> 00:10:05,439 And a town called Leah Pia 140 00:10:05,951 --> 00:10:12,095 Here there was another fierce battle for 141 00:10:12,351 --> 00:10:18,495 Told the city 142 00:10:18,751 --> 00:10:23,615 Dinosaurs 143 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:26,175 In the aftermath of the battle 144 00:10:26,687 --> 00:10:29,759 Yes assignments Groupon went in search of Hitler's enemies 145 00:10:32,319 --> 00:10:33,855 And we can see what they did with them 146 00:10:34,367 --> 00:10:37,439 In a unique piece of film shot by a German serviceman 147 00:10:40,767 --> 00:10:43,071 In the opening of this film here we see a 148 00:10:43,327 --> 00:10:44,863 Looks to be freshly dug 149 00:10:45,375 --> 00:10:48,447 Then the answer is gripping soldiers Milling around waiting 150 00:10:49,983 --> 00:10:53,823 And is this really hideous since fantasipation and then 151 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:56,127 We see why we see a truck arrive 152 00:10:56,383 --> 00:10:58,431 And people being loaded off the back of it 153 00:10:58,943 --> 00:10:59,711 We can see 154 00:11:00,223 --> 00:11:04,319 Play the Jews we know the Jews because they're wearing patches on their front and their back 155 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:09,183 The Germans but around them 156 00:11:09,951 --> 00:11:11,231 We see spectators 157 00:11:11,487 --> 00:11:15,839 Around here we see members of the Navy here military here 158 00:11:16,863 --> 00:11:18,399 Amongst them just people 159 00:11:18,911 --> 00:11:20,447 They're there in huge numbers 160 00:11:20,959 --> 00:11:27,103 They're smoking they're talking the clamoring to get a closer look to see what's about to happen 161 00:11:28,383 --> 00:11:32,991 Group of the group come and the people stay and they watch it 162 00:11:36,575 --> 00:11:39,135 Hey we can see this man just looking into the camera 163 00:11:39,391 --> 00:11:45,535 Suggest that he can see that he's being filmed as this is happening he knows that this has been captured in the people we watch 164 00:11:46,815 --> 00:11:47,583 When he's gone 165 00:12:02,175 --> 00:12:08,319 It's horrible 166 00:12:10,367 --> 00:12:16,511 It's it's almost as if shooting Jesus become spectator sport 167 00:12:18,047 --> 00:12:21,375 A few weeks after the invasion 168 00:12:23,167 --> 00:12:29,311 So the Vermont to start to push further into Soviet territory the answer coming behind them and they're finding more 169 00:12:29,567 --> 00:12:31,359 Jewish communities to Target 170 00:12:31,615 --> 00:12:35,455 And they're keeping the running title of it as they go they want to be able to report those figures 171 00:12:46,463 --> 00:12:47,743 Impetus this this 172 00:12:49,023 --> 00:12:49,791 Constantly 173 00:12:50,047 --> 00:12:53,119 Find more juice to kill let me see that recorded here 174 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,959 Of August 41 175 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:06,943 And now they include you didn't and you didn't kinda 176 00:13:07,199 --> 00:13:07,711 Women 177 00:13:07,967 --> 00:13:08,991 Children 178 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:15,391 Is only taking a few weeks from those first Murders At guys died for this 179 00:13:15,647 --> 00:13:19,999 To accelerate here 180 00:13:22,815 --> 00:13:23,327 It says 181 00:13:25,887 --> 00:13:27,679 614 people 182 00:13:35,103 --> 00:13:38,431 The Nazis wanted to do more than just kill their victims 183 00:13:40,223 --> 00:13:44,575 They wanted to erase them from memory 184 00:13:45,599 --> 00:13:49,183 The graves of many tens of thousands have never been found 185 00:13:51,487 --> 00:13:54,047 And that matters to Dr Harry Joel 186 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:55,327 So much so 187 00:13:55,839 --> 00:14:01,983 He's devoted his career to finding them you can't just hide the buttons 188 00:14:02,751 --> 00:14:08,895 The bodies will be found 189 00:14:09,151 --> 00:14:15,295 I'm trying to as a physical geographer Jim morphologist and people such as myself and academ 190 00:14:15,551 --> 00:14:16,319 Thanks and others need to say 191 00:14:17,855 --> 00:14:20,671 Let's take our tools that we use for other 192 00:14:21,695 --> 00:14:22,463 Research projects 193 00:14:22,975 --> 00:14:24,767 And let's apply them to the Holocaust 194 00:14:26,815 --> 00:14:28,095 We need to put closer to this 195 00:14:29,887 --> 00:14:30,911 It does line up brill 196 00:14:31,935 --> 00:14:32,959 For smoking building 197 00:14:33,727 --> 00:14:34,751 But if I smoke stack 198 00:14:35,263 --> 00:14:38,591 Would be just beyond that modern building on the other side of it 199 00:14:39,103 --> 00:14:41,151 So we can't see the pit from here but if we back up 200 00:14:41,407 --> 00:14:43,455 Harry what's with fellow us academic 201 00:14:43,711 --> 00:14:44,735 Dr Phil read 202 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:46,527 There's the 203 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:49,087 And every summer for the last 7 years 204 00:14:49,599 --> 00:14:53,695 They've been bringing teams of students to Eastern Europe in search of Holocaust victims 205 00:14:53,951 --> 00:14:56,255 We have a different perspective on it now but 206 00:14:56,511 --> 00:14:57,535 If we look up 207 00:14:58,047 --> 00:15:01,119 Birth to students are they're standing where the crowd was stand 208 00:15:01,887 --> 00:15:02,399 And 209 00:15:02,655 --> 00:15:03,423 Today 210 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:05,215 They're looking for the men in the film 211 00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:07,519 But then as they run 212 00:15:07,775 --> 00:15:10,591 Look there's Lighthouse you can see the lighthouse right there 213 00:15:10,847 --> 00:15:11,359 That's it 214 00:15:11,615 --> 00:15:15,711 The film gives them a landmarks they can locate on historic air photos of the site 215 00:15:16,479 --> 00:15:19,295 Allowing them to triangulate where the men were shot 216 00:15:19,807 --> 00:15:21,343 And where they should start their search 217 00:15:21,599 --> 00:15:23,903 But here's that road where they would have taken people 218 00:15:25,183 --> 00:15:26,207 And then we see all those 219 00:15:26,719 --> 00:15:27,487 Cars parked 220 00:15:27,743 --> 00:15:29,279 And where they're actually dropped off 221 00:15:29,535 --> 00:15:33,119 So I think that's a good spot for in the video where they're getting out of the trucks 222 00:15:33,631 --> 00:15:35,423 There's actually a structure right there 223 00:15:36,191 --> 00:15:39,519 And cuz you can see the people up on this side and people up on this side 224 00:15:40,031 --> 00:15:42,335 And then they would run to the pit over here 225 00:15:42,591 --> 00:15:43,359 So the 226 00:15:43,615 --> 00:15:44,895 To me is right out here in front of 227 00:15:46,175 --> 00:15:47,711 At least that's the place to start 228 00:15:55,391 --> 00:16:01,535 Today at law forbids any physical disturbance of the dead so they're digging 229 00:16:01,791 --> 00:16:07,935 With radio waves ground penetrating radar gives them the ability to image 230 00:16:08,191 --> 00:16:09,727 Any large feature buried in the Earth 231 00:16:10,751 --> 00:16:15,871 Like a mass grave after a few hours 232 00:16:16,127 --> 00:16:18,431 They find what appears to be a buried Trench 233 00:16:18,687 --> 00:16:23,039 But it's facing the wrong way to be the one in the film 234 00:16:23,295 --> 00:16:25,343 Literally in that direction 235 00:16:25,855 --> 00:16:31,999 Right so it's almost 90° off of we expecting looking at the photos and taking a look at it here 236 00:16:33,023 --> 00:16:37,119 Maybe means that you're multiple trenches and you know the video is just one point in time 237 00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:39,423 Where that particular trench is being used 238 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:42,495 So there could be trenches everywhere 239 00:16:45,311 --> 00:16:47,615 Off the multiple passes of the GPR 240 00:16:48,127 --> 00:16:50,687 Another trench appears beneath the tarmac 241 00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:52,735 And this one 242 00:16:52,991 --> 00:16:54,783 Lines up exactly with the film 243 00:16:58,367 --> 00:17:03,231 As we take a look at this trench it's pretty impressive you know this is 38 M long 244 00:17:03,999 --> 00:17:07,071 Get all this probably the first or second time I've ever seen something like this 245 00:17:07,327 --> 00:17:08,863 I mean it stands out very clearly 246 00:17:09,375 --> 00:17:11,935 I mean from all the time spent watching the video 247 00:17:12,191 --> 00:17:16,543 It fits very well with what we imagine the angle would be the trench coming in towards the Fortress 248 00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:20,127 And you know they were basically brought into the trench 249 00:17:20,639 --> 00:17:23,199 And fell against this side when they were shot 250 00:17:26,783 --> 00:17:28,063 All the pieces of the puzzle 251 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:29,087 Are here yeah 252 00:17:29,343 --> 00:17:31,647 But at the same time there's more work to do 253 00:17:31,903 --> 00:17:32,671 Oh certainly 254 00:17:34,975 --> 00:17:41,119 The men in the film have finally been found 255 00:17:41,375 --> 00:17:45,215 But it's clear there were more people shot buried here than anyone ever realized 256 00:17:47,775 --> 00:17:49,823 I'm further along the same stretch of coast 257 00:17:50,335 --> 00:17:52,639 A few months after Leah pies men 258 00:17:52,895 --> 00:17:59,039 Thousands of women and children were shot and buried in the sands 259 00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:02,623 No one knows exactly how many 260 00:18:02,879 --> 00:18:04,415 Where that bodies lie 261 00:18:10,815 --> 00:18:16,447 Is there any since the fall of the Soviet Union the mass Graves like these 262 00:18:16,703 --> 00:18:21,567 Lost for over 80 years of being forensically investigated for the first time 263 00:18:23,871 --> 00:18:28,223 The Pioneers like Harry and Phil are just scratching the surface of a Monumental task 264 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:37,183 In Latvia there are more than 265 00:18:37,439 --> 00:18:38,975 Expected Holocaust sites 266 00:18:39,743 --> 00:18:41,791 Most of yet to be fully explored 267 00:18:43,327 --> 00:18:49,471 The same is true and neighboring Lithuania with more than 200 suspected sites 268 00:18:49,727 --> 00:18:52,031 What seems extraordinary 269 00:18:52,287 --> 00:18:56,383 Is it that was a single insect scrub a team a fewer than a thousand men 270 00:18:56,639 --> 00:19:02,783 To account for an estimated quarter of a million deaths across both countries 271 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:09,183 There's only one way that was possible and it's one of the most dist 272 00:19:09,439 --> 00:19:12,255 Disturbing aspects of this entire story 273 00:19:13,279 --> 00:19:14,047 Widespre 274 00:19:14,303 --> 00:19:15,583 Local complicity 275 00:19:19,423 --> 00:19:21,471 And there's evidence of that happening here 276 00:19:21,983 --> 00:19:28,127 In the Lithuanian town of elitist so we're just driving into 277 00:19:28,383 --> 00:19:34,527 To the town now from exactly the same direction that the Germans came in 278 00:19:34,783 --> 00:19:40,927 On the 22nd of June 1941 so on the very start to The Invasion this is where 279 00:19:41,183 --> 00:19:47,327 They were coming from and behind them with these answers grouper Soldiers with this task of 280 00:19:47,583 --> 00:19:50,655 Looking for the town's Jews 281 00:19:51,167 --> 00:19:53,727 They found them in the town and the surrounding villages 282 00:19:55,007 --> 00:19:57,311 And according to Nazi records 283 00:19:57,823 --> 00:20:00,895 Nearly two and a half thousand Jews were rounded up 284 00:20:01,151 --> 00:20:07,295 And bought to be murdered in the nearby Forest 285 00:20:07,551 --> 00:20:12,671 The town and the very same road driven on three the center of elitist becomes 286 00:20:12,927 --> 00:20:14,719 I see Harris 287 00:20:14,975 --> 00:20:21,119 It's becoming a disorder trying and now we're in forest 288 00:20:21,375 --> 00:20:27,519 Oh I find really really chilling and really un 289 00:20:27,775 --> 00:20:33,919 Is the fact that it's walking distance from the middle of the town 290 00:20:34,175 --> 00:20:37,759 But who bought the thousands of Jews here 291 00:20:38,783 --> 00:20:43,903 And who killed them 292 00:20:45,183 --> 00:20:46,207 Because the SS 293 00:20:46,463 --> 00:20:49,535 Have fewer than a dozen men stationed in this area 294 00:20:53,631 --> 00:20:58,239 I'm here to meet the leader of Lithuania surviving Jewish community 295 00:21:00,543 --> 00:21:04,127 Find a quick lanski believes her grandmother was killed in this Forest 296 00:21:05,919 --> 00:21:07,199 And she may have discovered 297 00:21:07,455 --> 00:21:08,735 Who the killers were 298 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:17,184 My grandparents work while it's educated people and doing my grandmother was a doctor 299 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:17,952 The hospital 300 00:21:21,792 --> 00:21:27,936 Then the worst started and my grandmother was taken from the street and 301 00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:29,984 By the local people 302 00:21:33,312 --> 00:21:34,592 And then what happened 303 00:21:34,848 --> 00:21:37,408 And what happened after that nobody know 304 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,712 But in any way 305 00:21:39,968 --> 00:21:41,504 She did not 306 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,272 Come 307 00:21:48,672 --> 00:21:51,232 I asked the genocide Center 308 00:21:51,744 --> 00:21:52,768 Obviously ain't 309 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,864 To do the research for me especially on alet 310 00:21:58,656 --> 00:22:00,704 And it's written here clear 311 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,008 That in 1941 312 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,056 In August 313 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,432 There were my Skilling of Jewish children 314 00:22:11,712 --> 00:22:13,248 And women 315 00:22:14,528 --> 00:22:16,320 The victims were 316 00:22:16,576 --> 00:22:18,368 To go into the 317 00:22:18,624 --> 00:22:20,928 To jump into the pits to lie 318 00:22:21,696 --> 00:22:22,976 Then they wear short 319 00:22:26,816 --> 00:22:31,168 All the people who used to work in the prison took part 320 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,728 Together with the student 321 00:22:33,984 --> 00:22:35,264 Off a little 322 00:22:37,056 --> 00:22:37,568 So this 323 00:22:37,824 --> 00:22:43,968 Local school students 324 00:22:44,224 --> 00:22:47,040 Came together with the policeman vs 325 00:22:48,064 --> 00:22:52,672 And they consumes that what my uncle used to tell me that probably 326 00:22:52,928 --> 00:22:56,512 She is classmates who killed her his mother 327 00:23:00,096 --> 00:23:03,680 Funny that is such a difficult thing to comprehend the idea that it was 328 00:23:04,192 --> 00:23:06,752 It was your parents friends from school 329 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,800 He was some of the ones who 330 00:23:09,056 --> 00:23:13,408 Actually participating in this process they must have known her they must 331 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,224 Public unions in elevation 332 00:23:17,248 --> 00:23:22,368 Doesn't matter that they were citizens of Lithuania that they live in the same city 333 00:23:22,624 --> 00:23:23,136 But 334 00:23:23,648 --> 00:23:25,184 It should be you going to rain 335 00:23:26,208 --> 00:23:26,976 Should be 336 00:23:27,232 --> 00:23:27,744 Killed 337 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,024 And they wake 338 00:23:29,536 --> 00:23:30,816 To only cry 339 00:23:31,584 --> 00:23:32,096 Was being Jewish 340 00:23:34,144 --> 00:23:34,912 That's enough 341 00:23:40,544 --> 00:23:42,080 Zenaida kuklianski 342 00:23:42,336 --> 00:23:45,664 And more than 2,000 other Jews were murdered here 343 00:23:46,688 --> 00:23:48,480 Not solely by Nazis 344 00:23:48,736 --> 00:23:51,552 But also by their fellow citizens 345 00:23:54,624 --> 00:23:56,672 No one knows what any of them are buried 346 00:23:57,184 --> 00:24:01,792 There was a cluster of monuments here in the forest 347 00:24:02,304 --> 00:24:07,680 But they will put up relatively recently and no one knows if they Mark any actual burials 348 00:24:10,496 --> 00:24:16,640 I do not know where my grandmother is I would like very much to know 349 00:24:16,896 --> 00:24:19,200 Where is her means 350 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,344 The sculptures I think is more like art pieces not like 351 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,928 The document pieces and I do not see 352 00:24:29,184 --> 00:24:34,048 Enya information here about the people 353 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:40,704 When were they killed how many people were killed where the women are where the children 354 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,776 That's where we are missing that 355 00:24:45,312 --> 00:24:47,104 We just do not know where they 356 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,224 On up 357 00:24:53,248 --> 00:24:57,600 Fine it's invited Harry and Phil down from Leah Pia to try and put that right 358 00:24:59,648 --> 00:25:00,672 For this Forest 359 00:25:01,184 --> 00:25:01,952 Holds a puzzle 360 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,304 We know in August September 1941 361 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,864 We had approximately 2002 362 00:25:09,376 --> 00:25:11,680 Being executed and buried at this 363 00:25:12,448 --> 00:25:13,216 The flags in 364 00:25:13,984 --> 00:25:14,752 Red white 365 00:25:15,776 --> 00:25:18,848 The the idea that they're here is interesting 366 00:25:20,896 --> 00:25:21,408 But 367 00:25:21,664 --> 00:25:24,480 Where are they buried are they all buried at this location 368 00:25:24,992 --> 00:25:28,832 Or they buried at other locations within this larger Forest 369 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,368 And so 370 00:25:30,624 --> 00:25:32,416 Our job is to try to find those sites 371 00:25:36,512 --> 00:25:42,656 The medicine elitist Forest 372 00:25:42,912 --> 00:25:49,056 Trouble me for another reason the elements of local collaboration 373 00:25:49,568 --> 00:25:50,848 And what happened here 374 00:25:51,104 --> 00:25:53,408 Was just the tip of the iceberg 375 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,504 Her treat some lithuanians that determined to lay bare 376 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,648 I'm heading to a small town just 20 km from elitist 377 00:26:03,904 --> 00:26:06,720 To me it's a prominent author and Holocaust researcher 378 00:26:06,976 --> 00:26:08,768 Cold router vanagata 379 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,144 Route to introduces me to 94-year-old on a rodrika 380 00:26:14,912 --> 00:26:17,728 Taylor James's 381 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:26,176 I want to grow up here among the town's Jewish population 382 00:26:26,688 --> 00:26:28,992 And she is the last known surviving Witness 383 00:26:29,248 --> 00:26:30,528 To their mass murder 384 00:26:33,088 --> 00:26:36,160 So we go with her and in my car okay 385 00:26:36,416 --> 00:26:37,440 It's very nice to meet you 386 00:26:41,792 --> 00:26:42,560 Is that comfortable 387 00:27:16,608 --> 00:27:21,728 The massacre on the witness took place on September 9th 388 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,288 1941 389 00:27:25,056 --> 00:27:27,104 Not in the dark of a large Forest 390 00:27:27,616 --> 00:27:31,200 It's in the Open Fields in front of the house she lived in as a child 391 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,320 What happened on that day 392 00:27:37,088 --> 00:27:38,624 Hey chill I put a day 393 00:27:39,136 --> 00:27:45,280 They bought yesterday about to say that yeah yeah a lot of people being March down 394 00:27:46,304 --> 00:27:47,328 And when did you see the first 395 00:27:47,584 --> 00:27:51,168 People coming 396 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,448 Football 397 00:27:52,704 --> 00:27:54,496 It was going to break 398 00:27:54,752 --> 00:27:56,032 They heard the screaming 399 00:27:56,288 --> 00:27:58,592 That smoke a cry and screaming 400 00:28:02,432 --> 00:28:04,736 Come back we'll take 401 00:28:04,992 --> 00:28:11,136 Proskiller insurance 402 00:28:17,792 --> 00:28:22,656 Don't worry everybody 403 00:28:23,936 --> 00:28:27,008 Was going to tell me I will shower with you man and then we heard the shooting 404 00:28:27,264 --> 00:28:29,056 And who who was in the column 405 00:28:33,664 --> 00:28:35,456 Yahoo news 406 00:28:35,712 --> 00:28:39,040 Don't you forget 407 00:28:39,552 --> 00:28:42,880 Opportunity 408 00:28:43,136 --> 00:28:46,720 Well very good and children will be or being shot in 409 00:28:47,232 --> 00:28:52,352 And when you heard the shots you realize what was happening 410 00:29:07,968 --> 00:29:14,112 You'll give us that give give a circus 411 00:29:14,368 --> 00:29:20,512 Couldn't get me I'll go to the destination 412 00:29:20,768 --> 00:29:26,912 Yeah it's about 413 00:29:27,168 --> 00:29:31,776 I just passed this might in my head 414 00:29:32,032 --> 00:29:37,920 This is butramonis 415 00:29:38,176 --> 00:29:39,456 What most of the victims lived 416 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,528 It's historic heart lies empty 417 00:29:42,784 --> 00:29:44,064 Because that September Day 418 00:29:44,832 --> 00:29:46,624 740 Jews 419 00:29:47,392 --> 00:29:49,440 80% of the town's population 420 00:29:50,208 --> 00:29:51,232 Were murdered 421 00:29:53,024 --> 00:29:54,048 The question is 422 00:29:54,816 --> 00:29:55,584 Who buy 423 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,448 The killers were listening killer squad from alito's 424 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,240 Coming to get rid of the juice 425 00:30:02,496 --> 00:30:08,640 So we talking about lithuanians killing yes of the living room 426 00:30:09,152 --> 00:30:12,224 But those the policeman and the partisans were neighbors of the Jew 427 00:30:13,248 --> 00:30:16,832 And the whole process throughout has been managed by these people's Neighbors 428 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,024 Another town nearby 429 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,608 And they are the ones who do the shooting they're the ones with their fingers on the tree 430 00:30:28,864 --> 00:30:30,400 The neighbors are taking the propert 431 00:30:32,704 --> 00:30:33,984 That's quite a thought isn't it 432 00:30:35,008 --> 00:30:39,616 And then they move into the houses around here presumably they take over the town and all the Jews are gone 433 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,408 In one night 434 00:30:41,664 --> 00:30:42,432 In one night 435 00:30:44,224 --> 00:30:50,368 It's clear that the Holocaust here was much more than just a series of spontaneous Acts 436 00:30:50,624 --> 00:30:56,768 It was rapidly evolving into organized ethnic cleansing on a massive scale 437 00:31:03,424 --> 00:31:09,568 In Elite's Forest Harry and Phil think they may have stumbled on the biggest Mass grave 438 00:31:09,824 --> 00:31:15,968 I've ever seen 439 00:31:16,224 --> 00:31:22,368 I mean obviously we're walking at a lower area that has 440 00:31:22,624 --> 00:31:26,976 Went to our left amount of stuff 441 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:29,792 I mean 442 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,072 Human 443 00:31:31,584 --> 00:31:32,096 Bill 444 00:31:33,632 --> 00:31:34,144 Most 445 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,680 Wow human belt 446 00:31:36,448 --> 00:31:39,008 I mean I mean small copper but I mean the idea 447 00:31:39,776 --> 00:31:41,824 That where you are was where the trench would be 448 00:31:42,336 --> 00:31:44,128 And here you would be lining up people 449 00:31:44,384 --> 00:31:47,200 Being shot falling into the transfer you are 450 00:31:47,968 --> 00:31:48,992 Then burying 451 00:31:49,504 --> 00:31:51,040 With that settlement that you have 452 00:31:51,296 --> 00:31:53,600 And then continuing that along here 453 00:31:55,136 --> 00:31:55,904 Potentially months 454 00:31:59,232 --> 00:32:01,280 This is a trench we could have thousands of people 455 00:32:02,048 --> 00:32:03,840 This is one that is is not 456 00:32:05,632 --> 00:32:06,400 The discovery 457 00:32:06,656 --> 00:32:08,704 Is the result of resolute detective work 458 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,568 Because the trench is nowhere near any of the Holocaust monuments 459 00:32:16,128 --> 00:32:17,920 So we checked out the area of the monument 460 00:32:18,944 --> 00:32:22,272 All the data indicated really that there was nothing there 461 00:32:22,784 --> 00:32:25,600 So I went back to the air photos to try to find something 462 00:32:25,856 --> 00:32:26,880 That potentially fit 463 00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:30,208 A large number of bodies could be buried 464 00:32:30,464 --> 00:32:30,976 And 465 00:32:31,488 --> 00:32:35,072 This is a 1944 luftwaffe air photographs of this area 466 00:32:35,328 --> 00:32:36,608 And if we zoom in 467 00:32:38,912 --> 00:32:44,288 What's interesting about it is this is the road that we come in on and these two roads that are coming off of it 468 00:32:44,544 --> 00:32:47,360 And this particular road is essentially a road to nowhere 469 00:32:47,872 --> 00:32:50,176 So ride the guys in the middle of a forest 470 00:32:51,456 --> 00:32:51,968 And stop 471 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:52,992 I 472 00:32:53,248 --> 00:32:54,528 Yes I would agree with that 473 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,112 But there is testimony of a family member soon after 474 00:32:58,368 --> 00:33:00,160 Her father and brother were murdered 475 00:33:00,416 --> 00:33:01,696 A visiting this site 476 00:33:02,208 --> 00:33:02,976 And seeing 477 00:33:03,232 --> 00:33:06,816 The evidence of trenches that were so fresh that they were staying with blood 478 00:33:07,584 --> 00:33:09,120 So that's what's at the end of the road yes 479 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,424 That's what prompted us 480 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,448 Start the look 481 00:33:12,704 --> 00:33:15,520 In this particular area 482 00:33:15,776 --> 00:33:18,336 Going on this and then one person will be moving the line 483 00:33:18,592 --> 00:33:21,920 I'm in a pond close inspection we found a series of trenches 484 00:33:22,176 --> 00:33:24,736 Leading up to at least visually 485 00:33:24,992 --> 00:33:26,528 Potentially the largest Trench 486 00:33:27,552 --> 00:33:30,112 This may be a mass grave or series of mass Graves 487 00:33:30,368 --> 00:33:31,648 There are tens of thousand 488 00:33:31,904 --> 00:33:32,672 The people bar 489 00:33:36,512 --> 00:33:37,792 The evidence is compelling 490 00:33:38,304 --> 00:33:39,584 But it's only circumstantial 491 00:33:41,376 --> 00:33:43,936 The only way they can be sure they found a mass burial 492 00:33:44,448 --> 00:33:46,240 Is to look beneath the surface 493 00:33:46,752 --> 00:33:49,056 Cuz they did so effectively at Leo pay 494 00:33:51,104 --> 00:33:56,224 So what we've done at this site is we started collecting a grid with ground penetrating radar 495 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,040 And I'll show you a time slice as we go down into the sub 496 00:33:59,552 --> 00:34:03,136 And remarkably you know this we never know what we're going to get 497 00:34:03,392 --> 00:34:04,928 We see this feature right here 498 00:34:05,696 --> 00:34:08,512 This is what we are interpreting as a burial 499 00:34:09,024 --> 00:34:14,144 Cuz that's a normal list within the rest of this here it's really something distincts right now 500 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,192 And so now we can start calculating 501 00:34:16,448 --> 00:34:17,984 The dimensions of a trench 502 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,544 And it's not just here and goes all the way up 503 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,080 Where this linear feature goes 504 00:34:22,336 --> 00:34:23,872 And goes all the way down 505 00:34:24,128 --> 00:34:28,480 Right downstairs and it does a right hand turn down there 506 00:34:28,992 --> 00:34:30,016 And there's 507 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,552 I 508 00:34:31,808 --> 00:34:35,904 We can't even start doing the calculations we were just looking at the data right now 509 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,768 This is a large feature 510 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,608 And then we have seven to four seven to 11 M here 511 00:34:44,864 --> 00:34:46,400 Fun on the tapes here but take a look 512 00:34:46,912 --> 00:34:49,728 All the trees have been taken out at 7 m 513 00:34:49,984 --> 00:34:51,776 And they're gone all the way to 11 m 514 00:34:52,288 --> 00:34:53,056 All the way down this 515 00:34:53,568 --> 00:34:58,944 Walking past every day I wouldn't I wouldn't have noticed this detail how do you know I wouldn't have made it but now you pointed out it seems so obvious 516 00:34:59,712 --> 00:35:00,480 The clearly 517 00:35:00,736 --> 00:35:01,504 Something 518 00:35:02,016 --> 00:35:05,344 Has happened to this earth something has disrupted 519 00:35:06,112 --> 00:35:07,904 The continuity of this space 520 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,488 When when we take I mean I just take a look out here we thought there was going to be nothing out here 521 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,304 And we see some you know linear features and things like that 522 00:35:15,072 --> 00:35:18,912 I you know I'm shocked when I walk around now I'm looking at things and it's like 523 00:35:19,168 --> 00:35:21,472 Potentially we are sitting on thousands 524 00:35:21,728 --> 00:35:23,776 Of executed Jews at this 525 00:35:27,104 --> 00:35:33,248 We could work here for years and years is one more and just find more yeah yeah 526 00:35:37,856 --> 00:35:41,184 Experience of being here today has been a really Stark 527 00:35:41,696 --> 00:35:44,512 Reminder of the point about taking 528 00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:45,536 Jewish individual 529 00:35:45,792 --> 00:35:46,816 Into a song like this 530 00:35:47,072 --> 00:35:50,400 I murdered him 531 00:35:50,912 --> 00:35:52,960 When the Nazis come into 532 00:35:53,216 --> 00:35:55,264 These territories they 533 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,080 And various different ways and embarrassed different to capacities 534 00:35:58,336 --> 00:36:00,128 Different people who prepared 535 00:36:00,896 --> 00:36:01,664 To support it 536 00:36:02,432 --> 00:36:06,528 Allow it to happen but sometimes to become directly 537 00:36:06,784 --> 00:36:07,296 Involved 538 00:36:08,064 --> 00:36:09,088 To become the people who 539 00:36:10,368 --> 00:36:11,136 The people 540 00:36:11,648 --> 00:36:12,672 With that fingers on the trig 541 00:36:16,256 --> 00:36:18,048 It's so important to remember 542 00:36:18,304 --> 00:36:20,352 Did the Nazis were at the center of this 543 00:36:20,608 --> 00:36:21,888 But they didn't act alone 544 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,424 They required 545 00:36:23,936 --> 00:36:25,728 The active participation of 546 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:29,056 Hundreds of thousands of people they couldn't have done it 547 00:36:29,568 --> 00:36:30,336 Without that 548 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,856 Like a lot of formerly occupied Eastern European nations 549 00:36:42,624 --> 00:36:45,440 Molding with you idea has a history problem 550 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,048 Because the truth of its role in the Holocaust 551 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,352 He's finally coming out of the ground 552 00:36:53,632 --> 00:36:56,448 And it's being obliged to face up to it by writers 553 00:36:56,704 --> 00:36:57,984 Like roots of anagator 554 00:36:58,496 --> 00:36:59,264 Another 50 555 00:37:00,032 --> 00:37:01,056 The people who come to 556 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,408 Rachel this is something that you've gone to Great Lengths to investigate 557 00:37:05,664 --> 00:37:06,944 What happens when you did that 558 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,528 Michael about the color girls was published 559 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,368 It became a bestseller but the action was very violent 560 00:37:14,624 --> 00:37:18,464 Some people accepted it but majority of my nation didn't accept 561 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,000 And I became 562 00:37:20,256 --> 00:37:24,864 Like any of the country because I was like defaming my own people 563 00:37:25,632 --> 00:37:29,472 And they called me a Jewish w**** 564 00:37:29,984 --> 00:37:31,776 So and then 565 00:37:32,032 --> 00:37:34,080 You know people were attacking me and 566 00:37:34,336 --> 00:37:36,128 Spitting at me on the street 567 00:37:36,896 --> 00:37:37,664 I 568 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:44,064 And in the long run I had to leave the country for a while until they forgive not forgive me but forgive me 569 00:37:44,576 --> 00:37:47,904 So speaking out came a great personal cost to you 570 00:37:48,672 --> 00:37:49,440 I don't regret 571 00:37:49,696 --> 00:37:51,232 Yes you did but I don't 572 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,584 I don't know that it will be such a violet direction that would have done it anyway 573 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,656 Because I spoke for the victims this is my Army 574 00:37:59,168 --> 00:38:02,240 $200,000 people this is Miami they gave me a lot of 575 00:38:03,008 --> 00:38:04,800 And if you publish the book today 576 00:38:05,056 --> 00:38:06,848 Do you think you would get the same reaction 577 00:38:07,104 --> 00:38:08,640 They won't be put in published 578 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,272 And nobody asked me nobody would write the book about the holoc 579 00:38:14,784 --> 00:38:16,832 Because people know that you lose your friends 580 00:38:17,088 --> 00:38:18,880 And you get you become a public en 581 00:38:19,136 --> 00:38:25,024 So what is said when this comes up and conversation what is it what do you say 582 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,608 So they would say it wasn't us it wasn't us kind of 583 00:38:28,864 --> 00:38:29,376 I mean 584 00:38:29,632 --> 00:38:35,008 I told my friend that I'm coming to see the Germany with him with a BBC crew 585 00:38:35,264 --> 00:38:36,288 And said 586 00:38:37,056 --> 00:38:39,360 Are you going to tell the whole world again 587 00:38:39,616 --> 00:38:41,152 And the same our country 588 00:38:42,176 --> 00:38:45,760 And tell everybody that you know we kill the Jews and things kill the Jews 589 00:38:46,272 --> 00:38:46,784 I said 590 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,832 Yes she said why 591 00:38:49,088 --> 00:38:50,880 I said because they did 592 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,208 Bloody uneducated 593 00:38:54,976 --> 00:39:01,120 Uneducated the school hasn't educated us our parents hasn't educate us 594 00:39:01,376 --> 00:39:02,912 Grandparate to speak about 595 00:39:03,168 --> 00:39:04,192 Who could 596 00:39:04,448 --> 00:39:05,728 Ask about what 597 00:39:06,752 --> 00:39:10,336 Moment Calico subject is closed 598 00:39:10,848 --> 00:39:11,872 I don't know for how long 599 00:39:18,528 --> 00:39:19,040 Years ago 600 00:39:19,552 --> 00:39:22,112 Many lithuanians welcome the invading Nazis 601 00:39:22,368 --> 00:39:24,928 For what seemed at the time to be a very sound reason 602 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,232 Because the Nazis 603 00:39:27,488 --> 00:39:33,632 Will liberating them from communism the same nationalist response 604 00:39:33,888 --> 00:39:35,936 Manifested across all the Baltic states 605 00:39:36,704 --> 00:39:42,848 As well as large parts of Ukraine 606 00:39:43,104 --> 00:39:49,248 What's the fire from Blue terrorist everywhere National 607 00:39:49,504 --> 00:39:51,552 To find the Flames of anti-communism 608 00:39:52,832 --> 00:39:55,392 And the Nazis pushed the myth of that communism 609 00:39:55,904 --> 00:40:02,048 Has a Jewish conspiracy 610 00:40:04,096 --> 00:40:08,960 Has Hitler's invasion of the USSR reached its fullest extent coercion 611 00:40:09,216 --> 00:40:12,032 And complicity across territories under Nazi control 612 00:40:12,288 --> 00:40:18,176 I love the SS to initiate nearly 2,000 atrocities across seven countries 613 00:40:18,432 --> 00:40:19,200 From the Baltic 614 00:40:19,712 --> 00:40:20,736 The Black Sea 615 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,088 Scaling up their murderous ambition in Village after Village 616 00:40:25,344 --> 00:40:26,624 Town Off The Town 617 00:40:34,048 --> 00:40:35,328 Has victim numbers grew 618 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,424 The SS developed a system for ensuring maximum efficiency 619 00:40:39,936 --> 00:40:40,960 A minimal pan 620 00:40:42,752 --> 00:40:45,824 It began with a calming ruse 621 00:40:46,592 --> 00:40:48,384 Jews were told to assemble with money 622 00:40:48,896 --> 00:40:49,408 Belongings 623 00:40:50,176 --> 00:40:51,200 I'm warm clothing 624 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,040 So they waited patiently 625 00:40:55,808 --> 00:40:57,344 Expecting to be deported 626 00:40:59,904 --> 00:41:01,184 They will let away in groups 627 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,976 Often buy local police 628 00:41:03,744 --> 00:41:04,256 To be shot 629 00:41:10,912 --> 00:41:16,544 When the Germans took the Ukrainian capital 630 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,616 Keith in late September 1941 631 00:41:20,128 --> 00:41:22,688 They claim their biggest Soviet City so far 632 00:41:23,456 --> 00:41:26,272 With tens of thousands of Jews 633 00:41:28,576 --> 00:41:30,112 And that says Commander 634 00:41:30,368 --> 00:41:31,392 Friedrich yekel 635 00:41:31,648 --> 00:41:33,440 So the chance to perfect mass murder 636 00:41:33,696 --> 00:41:35,232 On a Monumental scale 637 00:41:38,816 --> 00:41:41,888 He issued the standard order to the city's Jews to assemble 638 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:54,943 Then he had them at school today out of town by local police along this road to a 639 00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:55,711 Continue to Deep 640 00:41:56,479 --> 00:41:58,015 Half kilometer Long Ravine 641 00:41:58,527 --> 00:41:59,807 Cool babinya 642 00:42:03,903 --> 00:42:05,951 Here they were strip naked 643 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,511 Ready for the waiting guns 644 00:42:21,311 --> 00:42:22,079 New Virginia 645 00:42:25,663 --> 00:42:27,711 The account's plan was carefully engineered 646 00:42:28,479 --> 00:42:30,015 Yet Dina prone to shaver 647 00:42:30,527 --> 00:42:31,295 Survived it 648 00:42:33,855 --> 00:42:35,135 That is difficult 649 00:42:46,911 --> 00:42:48,959 Onion physical science 650 00:42:59,967 --> 00:43:01,759 More beautiful 651 00:43:09,695 --> 00:43:15,839 You're too supposed to hit 652 00:43:16,095 --> 00:43:22,239 These are the belongings of those 653 00:43:22,495 --> 00:43:25,823 Those who didn't Escape 654 00:43:26,335 --> 00:43:29,663 On 29th and 30th September 1941 655 00:43:30,175 --> 00:43:32,991 The accounts men shot 33, 656 00:43:33,247 --> 00:43:35,551 771 men 657 00:43:36,063 --> 00:43:36,575 Women 658 00:43:37,087 --> 00:43:43,231 And children 659 00:43:43,487 --> 00:43:44,511 700 people 660 00:43:44,767 --> 00:43:46,559 An hour 661 00:43:46,815 --> 00:43:52,959 For 2 days 662 00:43:53,215 --> 00:43:59,103 Popping you was the biggest single Massacre of the Holocaust thus far 663 00:44:00,383 --> 00:44:02,943 Yes it would become just one notable landmark 664 00:44:03,711 --> 00:44:06,271 In a continental killing spree 665 00:44:22,399 --> 00:44:28,543 By the end of 1941 over a million people have been killed under the hail of bullets that the Nazis and their 666 00:44:28,799 --> 00:44:29,567 Operators are throwing 667 00:44:30,591 --> 00:44:32,895 $25,000 murdered here in Riga 668 00:44:34,431 --> 00:44:36,479 Murdered here in counter 669 00:44:37,759 --> 00:44:38,783 In pain already 670 00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:40,575 It means $30, 671 00:44:40,831 --> 00:44:43,135 In Kiev 34, 672 00:44:43,391 --> 00:44:45,183 Incoming expodolski we've got 673 00:44:45,439 --> 00:44:48,767 $25,000 and down in Odessa we've got 30,000 674 00:44:49,023 --> 00:44:52,863 Hundreds of thousands of Jews and thousands more between all of these places 675 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:56,959 It doesn't start as a plan of total Annihilation that's something evolves 676 00:44:57,215 --> 00:44:59,007 It's part of these operations here 677 00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:01,055 Well they've been able to do here 678 00:45:01,567 --> 00:45:07,711 Conceptualizing something within there within their minds they hadn't previously anticipated in this way they can kill them they 679 00:45:10,783 --> 00:45:12,063 Across the whole territory 680 00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:14,879 But the largest number of Jews still alive here 681 00:45:15,135 --> 00:45:16,415 In occupied pilot 682 00:45:16,927 --> 00:45:18,719 The living in ghettos they're living in 683 00:45:18,975 --> 00:45:20,767 Terrible conditions they suffered 684 00:45:21,023 --> 00:45:22,303 Cooling later in this period 685 00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:25,887 But there's been no Central plans for nihilate them until now 686 00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:33,823 What changes the end of 1941 687 00:45:40,479 --> 00:45:44,575 When the Nazi sit out to murder the millions of Jews languishing in their ghettos 688 00:45:44,831 --> 00:45:50,975 They did not use millions of bullets 689 00:45:51,231 --> 00:45:57,375 By the end of 194 690 00:45:58,655 --> 00:46:01,471 After more than a million individual murders 691 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,263 My shooting 692 00:46:03,775 --> 00:46:06,079 Had become unsustainable 693 00:46:08,127 --> 00:46:09,663 And when we look at these photos 694 00:46:09,919 --> 00:46:12,479 We start to understand why that is 695 00:46:12,991 --> 00:46:14,015 Can see here 696 00:46:14,271 --> 00:46:15,295 These young men 697 00:46:15,807 --> 00:46:18,111 Effacing of the human beings 698 00:46:18,879 --> 00:46:19,647 I'm killing them 699 00:46:21,183 --> 00:46:22,207 Miss seeing 700 00:46:23,487 --> 00:46:24,511 What are they doing 701 00:46:25,535 --> 00:46:26,303 First hand 702 00:46:27,071 --> 00:46:28,095 Face to face 703 00:46:29,887 --> 00:46:32,703 I'm not sending us he's become really concerned about 704 00:46:33,215 --> 00:46:35,775 The mental health of the people that are doing it 705 00:46:36,799 --> 00:46:38,335 Never the people that have been killed 706 00:46:38,591 --> 00:46:39,871 People that are doing it 707 00:46:42,687 --> 00:46:43,455 They know 708 00:46:43,967 --> 00:46:45,503 If that's something 709 00:46:46,271 --> 00:46:46,783 Which 710 00:46:47,807 --> 00:46:49,855 Is going to be impossible for them 711 00:46:50,367 --> 00:46:53,695 To deal with they talk about it it's a burdening of the Soul 712 00:46:56,255 --> 00:46:59,583 There's reports here of these soldiers getting nausea 713 00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:01,631 Nervous tension during the massacres 714 00:47:02,399 --> 00:47:04,703 In many cases Killers suffered vomiting attack 715 00:47:05,215 --> 00:47:08,799 Will develop severe eczema or other psychosomatic disorders 716 00:47:09,311 --> 00:47:11,103 You know that this this sense that 717 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:12,639 Did this 718 00:47:13,151 --> 00:47:14,943 Generation will be corrupted 719 00:47:15,711 --> 00:47:16,223 Forever 720 00:47:16,479 --> 00:47:20,063 In the name of the re 721 00:47:23,135 --> 00:47:25,951 The other big factor was location 722 00:47:30,047 --> 00:47:33,631 Everything's happened so far everything that I've looked at 723 00:47:33,887 --> 00:47:40,031 Has happened a long way from the heart of Germany it's in this kind of this wild East in the Nazi imagination 724 00:47:40,287 --> 00:47:44,383 Different place with different things can happen different permissibility we see here 725 00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:50,783 The absolutely Indescribable scene of Carnage and it's so public and it's so barbaric and it's completely 726 00:47:51,551 --> 00:47:53,087 And even the Nazis 727 00:47:53,343 --> 00:47:54,111 Finess 728 00:47:54,623 --> 00:47:56,159 What kind of scene unconscionable 729 00:47:56,927 --> 00:47:57,439 Killing 730 00:47:57,951 --> 00:48:01,279 Punches of thousands millions of people is something they can accept 731 00:48:01,535 --> 00:48:03,583 But from that perspective things develop 732 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:05,631 There are ways that it should be done 733 00:48:05,887 --> 00:48:06,655 And this isn't 734 00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:17,151 So they need to find a new means of mass murder 735 00:48:17,407 --> 00:48:18,687 That can be scaled up 736 00:48:19,711 --> 00:48:20,479 That can be 737 00:48:20,735 --> 00:48:21,247 Efficient 738 00:48:22,271 --> 00:48:23,039 That can be 739 00:48:23,295 --> 00:48:24,063 Secret 740 00:48:24,831 --> 00:48:26,367 And that can be 741 00:48:26,879 --> 00:48:27,647 Civilized 742 00:48:28,415 --> 00:48:29,183 In that 743 00:48:29,439 --> 00:48:30,975 Much more closely aligned 744 00:48:31,231 --> 00:48:32,511 This new Germany 745 00:48:33,023 --> 00:48:34,559 The Hitler wants to create 746 00:48:36,863 --> 00:48:41,215 One of the men's tossed with finding those new civilized ways of killing 747 00:48:41,727 --> 00:48:42,751 Was an SS major 748 00:48:43,007 --> 00:48:45,311 Could Herbert Langer 749 00:48:48,383 --> 00:48:49,407 And this Forest 750 00:48:49,663 --> 00:48:52,479 Called casimir's biscopy in the west of Poland 751 00:48:52,991 --> 00:48:55,807 Is what language was given to use as a laboratory 752 00:49:04,511 --> 00:49:07,071 The team of researchers from across Poland 753 00:49:07,327 --> 00:49:10,911 Is attempting to find the evidence left behind by Lang as experiments 754 00:49:13,983 --> 00:49:19,615 Traces of mass Graves can be seen in the Nazis own aerial photographs 755 00:49:20,127 --> 00:49:23,711 Elvis crematorium 756 00:49:24,223 --> 00:49:27,295 Hopes that will help locate extraordinary events described 757 00:49:27,551 --> 00:49:30,111 And I witness testimony 758 00:49:35,999 --> 00:49:37,535 This is part of our team 759 00:49:38,303 --> 00:49:43,423 Hello Sebastian University 760 00:49:43,935 --> 00:49:49,567 And Simone hello hello 761 00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:52,383 Nice to meet you nice to meet you too thank you 762 00:49:53,151 --> 00:49:54,175 Say what if we 763 00:49:54,431 --> 00:49:55,199 Found here 764 00:49:56,991 --> 00:49:57,503 Okay 765 00:49:58,271 --> 00:50:00,831 That this is this depression here 766 00:50:01,087 --> 00:50:05,951 This this message and 767 00:50:06,975 --> 00:50:09,279 It could be the Musgrave we are looking for 768 00:50:09,535 --> 00:50:11,839 Just where I was standing now 769 00:50:12,863 --> 00:50:18,495 From one perspective it can look like just a regular mask Gray from the water time 770 00:50:18,751 --> 00:50:19,775 However 771 00:50:20,031 --> 00:50:24,127 We know from a single testimony we have 772 00:50:24,383 --> 00:50:26,943 Of a pre-work vet polish vet 773 00:50:27,455 --> 00:50:33,343 Who was brought here as a prisoner political prisoner he was brought here with the other posts 774 00:50:34,111 --> 00:50:35,903 Forced to assist the Germans 775 00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:39,999 In killing a Jewish people from a neighboring 776 00:50:40,255 --> 00:50:40,767 Ghett 777 00:50:41,023 --> 00:50:44,351 So people were brought in cards here alive 778 00:50:44,863 --> 00:50:47,167 The pits were already 779 00:50:47,423 --> 00:50:48,703 Waiting for them 780 00:50:49,471 --> 00:50:50,751 They were not shot 781 00:50:51,007 --> 00:50:52,799 They were just 782 00:50:53,055 --> 00:50:54,847 They were just covered with 783 00:50:55,103 --> 00:50:55,871 Quick lime 784 00:50:56,127 --> 00:50:58,431 And burned inside the pit 785 00:50:58,687 --> 00:50:59,967 Incident Doug p 786 00:51:01,247 --> 00:51:02,527 Quit climb into the pit 787 00:51:02,783 --> 00:51:04,831 Brought containers with water 788 00:51:05,343 --> 00:51:08,927 Brought people inside brought containers with water and put 789 00:51:09,183 --> 00:51:10,463 The water inside 790 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:11,231 What 791 00:51:11,487 --> 00:51:13,279 What made the quick line to 792 00:51:13,535 --> 00:51:14,047 Re 793 00:51:14,303 --> 00:51:16,095 Chemically boil 794 00:51:16,351 --> 00:51:18,399 Repeat boiling people 795 00:51:18,911 --> 00:51:19,679 Inside 796 00:51:20,191 --> 00:51:22,239 And this is what we know from this 797 00:51:22,495 --> 00:51:25,823 Testimony of a Polish that he was here for from the very 798 00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:29,919 Beginning Until the End first afterwards with other post 799 00:51:30,175 --> 00:51:31,967 To bury the victims 800 00:51:35,295 --> 00:51:36,831 Right where we are here there was a 801 00:51:37,087 --> 00:51:38,111 How much people 802 00:51:39,391 --> 00:51:40,159 Boil the 803 00:51:40,415 --> 00:51:40,927 Correct 804 00:51:42,463 --> 00:51:43,487 Do you know how long it took 805 00:51:43,743 --> 00:51:45,791 According to some cabbage several hours 806 00:51:48,863 --> 00:51:49,375 We think 807 00:51:49,631 --> 00:51:50,399 That 808 00:51:50,655 --> 00:51:52,703 Experimental killing side here 809 00:51:53,471 --> 00:51:54,495 Why was Thunder yeah 810 00:51:55,263 --> 00:51:56,287 They were just trying out 811 00:51:57,055 --> 00:51:58,591 Different ways he has different type of 812 00:51:59,103 --> 00:51:59,871 Killing 813 00:52:06,271 --> 00:52:10,623 It's believed Langer killed 3,000 Jews here in a series of Trials 814 00:52:11,391 --> 00:52:13,439 Which included not just lime pits 815 00:52:13,951 --> 00:52:15,743 But Mobile Gas fans 816 00:52:19,071 --> 00:52:22,143 It was just a pure technical like a rehearsal 817 00:52:23,167 --> 00:52:26,239 Which method would be the most effective efficient 818 00:52:26,495 --> 00:52:31,359 As if the Nazis were just getting ready for the big task that was ahead 819 00:52:31,871 --> 00:52:34,431 Meaning killing the European jewelry 820 00:52:35,455 --> 00:52:36,223 Clearly 821 00:52:36,479 --> 00:52:38,271 Does an intention is being 822 00:52:38,527 --> 00:52:41,855 Consolidated from within the heart of the Nazi 823 00:52:42,367 --> 00:52:47,743 Hierarchino from Hitler from the top down there's this idea of this intention is becoming more and more and more 824 00:52:47,999 --> 00:52:49,023 Determined towards 825 00:52:49,535 --> 00:52:51,583 Final Solution which is about 826 00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:53,375 Complete Annihilation but of course 827 00:52:53,887 --> 00:52:55,167 As an intention 828 00:52:55,679 --> 00:53:01,823 That is meaningless without the means of achieving it and that's what we see the actual practical means of achieving 829 00:53:06,175 --> 00:53:07,711 They are drawing conclusions 830 00:53:08,223 --> 00:53:10,527 Lime is expensive 831 00:53:10,783 --> 00:53:14,367 Gas in Vegas was also inconvenient 832 00:53:14,623 --> 00:53:20,767 So it just drives longer to a natural conclusion that it doesn't work we need to think about 833 00:53:21,023 --> 00:53:22,303 About something else 834 00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:26,911 Took my experimentation but this is 835 00:53:27,167 --> 00:53:29,983 The people that have been experimental done are real 836 00:53:30,495 --> 00:53:33,311 People I mean yes 837 00:53:37,407 --> 00:53:41,759 How to ask his team continues to search the forest for more of Langer's victims 838 00:53:42,271 --> 00:53:48,415 The longer himself concluded that the 839 00:53:48,671 --> 00:53:54,815 Mom said he was looking for did not lie in forests he'd found the most 840 00:53:55,071 --> 00:54:01,215 Most efficient killing agent was gas but it needed to be used in a completely different location 841 00:54:01,471 --> 00:54:07,615 Well like I 842 00:54:07,871 --> 00:54:14,015 Realized in fact was that the future of mass murder lay in the past 843 00:54:14,271 --> 00:54:20,415 In an old SS prison called 47 844 00:54:20,671 --> 00:54:23,487 Hey in 1939 845 00:54:23,743 --> 00:54:27,583 Langa have been part of a project called action T4 846 00:54:29,887 --> 00:54:33,215 T4 was created to purge the Third Reich of the disabled 847 00:54:33,727 --> 00:54:35,519 For the Nazis called 848 00:54:36,031 --> 00:54:42,175 I'm worthy of life 849 00:54:42,431 --> 00:54:48,575 And the key to t4's efficiency Lang a recall 850 00:54:49,087 --> 00:54:51,903 Had been to bring the victims to the means of killing 851 00:54:52,415 --> 00:54:54,463 Inside a special secure 852 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,255 Facility 853 00:54:56,511 --> 00:54:58,047 In this quiet old 854 00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:02,655 Langer had improvised A Whole New Concept in mass murder 855 00:55:13,663 --> 00:55:15,711 Well maybe the world's first gas chamber 856 00:55:24,927 --> 00:55:26,207 People will end up here 857 00:55:26,463 --> 00:55:28,255 The doors were close behind them 858 00:55:29,535 --> 00:55:34,399 When they're ruling clay was put around the edges outside to see it off 859 00:55:35,423 --> 00:55:38,495 And then chips will put through openings in the door 860 00:55:38,751 --> 00:55:41,311 Three days Chiefs carbon monoxide was pumped 861 00:55:41,823 --> 00:55:43,359 Concealed bottles 862 00:55:44,383 --> 00:55:45,919 People would wait outside 863 00:55:47,711 --> 00:55:50,015 When there was no more noise inside 864 00:55:50,271 --> 00:55:52,319 Because I knew that when he was dead 865 00:55:56,159 --> 00:56:00,511 For the end of 1941 has become clear the Hitler's ambition 866 00:56:00,767 --> 00:56:06,911 Is to murder every single Jew across not your partner Nazi Allied Europe and in 867 00:56:07,167 --> 00:56:07,935 To do that 868 00:56:08,191 --> 00:56:09,983 He needs the necessary scale 869 00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:14,847 It need 870 00:56:15,103 --> 00:56:17,663 Development and it's the development of our idea 871 00:56:17,919 --> 00:56:19,199 Which is what leads us 872 00:56:36,095 --> 00:56:37,119 So these ends 873 00:56:37,631 --> 00:56:38,911 Contain ashes 874 00:56:40,959 --> 00:56:43,263 Different camps across Europe 875 00:56:44,543 --> 00:56:46,847 Olympic confronted Me is from helmet 876 00:56:47,359 --> 00:56:53,503 Tell him that is where her Belanger went directly from here and it became the first death camp 877 00:56:53,759 --> 00:56:59,391 I'm from not a network was develops the led to the murder of millions of people 878 00:57:00,415 --> 00:57:01,695 And it'll started 879 00:57:26,527 --> 00:57:29,855 From early 1942 880 00:57:30,111 --> 00:57:36,255 Millions of Jews were taken from all across Nazi occupied Europe and sent to EXT 881 00:57:36,511 --> 00:57:37,279 Elimination camps 882 00:57:37,535 --> 00:57:43,423 Like this one to become no more than us 883 00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:49,823 A memory it took just 884 00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:55,967 Months to get here from the first bullet fired in the East how did that happen 885 00:58:02,879 --> 00:58:09,023 Of course there was Hitler's poison 886 00:58:09,279 --> 00:58:10,303 This ideology 887 00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:16,703 But it needed more than ideology that needed 888 00:58:16,959 --> 00:58:23,103 Tons of thousands of ordinary people to portray a neighbor 889 00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:26,431 Will turn their backs and say nothing 890 00:58:26,687 --> 00:58:32,831 To help round up and Rob to sign an order pull 891 00:58:33,087 --> 00:58:39,231 Trigger or open a valve 892 00:58:41,535 --> 00:58:42,559 To see others 893 00:58:42,815 --> 00:58:44,607 The sufficiently different from them 894 00:58:46,143 --> 00:58:46,911 To be killed 68526

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