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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,628 --> 00:00:02,546 Doctor Who. It's one of Britain's 2 00:00:02,547 --> 00:00:04,346 biggest television successes, 3 00:00:04,348 --> 00:00:06,549 both here in the U.K. and abroad. 4 00:00:08,251 --> 00:00:10,429 Now over 50 years old and broadcast 5 00:00:10,430 --> 00:00:14,732 all over the world, I say that's quite impressive. 6 00:00:14,734 --> 00:00:17,869 Over the years, the show has seen many changes. 7 00:00:17,871 --> 00:00:20,838 So far we've traveled with eleven doctors and... 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,375 An awful lot of companions. 9 00:00:26,879 --> 00:00:28,279 And things are about to change again. 10 00:00:28,281 --> 00:00:30,748 Companion Clara Oswald is about to begin 11 00:00:30,750 --> 00:00:32,083 a whole new adventure 12 00:00:32,085 --> 00:00:34,919 as actor Peter Capaldi steps onboard the TARDIS 13 00:00:34,921 --> 00:00:37,922 to become the twelfth Doctor. 14 00:00:39,525 --> 00:00:41,826 I spent three years playing the fifth Doctor, 15 00:00:41,828 --> 00:00:43,895 but now I want to know what life is like 16 00:00:43,897 --> 00:00:45,196 as the Doctor's companion, 17 00:00:45,198 --> 00:00:47,165 so I'm beginning a journey of my own. 18 00:00:47,167 --> 00:00:50,001 I want to know what it takes to be the ultimate 19 00:00:50,003 --> 00:00:51,369 Doctor Who companion. 20 00:00:51,371 --> 00:00:52,371 Can it be done? 21 00:00:52,372 --> 00:00:53,738 I'm about to find out. 22 00:00:55,266 --> 00:00:59,266 # Doctor Who# The Ultimate Companion Original Air Date on August 16, 2013 23 00:00:59,290 --> 00:01:05,290 == sync, corrected by elderman == @elder_man 24 00:01:13,985 --> 00:01:17,220 Coming up on my quest for the ultimate companion, 25 00:01:17,222 --> 00:01:20,724 I meet up with the ultimate in Doctor Who talent. 26 00:01:20,726 --> 00:01:23,460 I get the chance to speak to Clara Oswald herself, 27 00:01:23,462 --> 00:01:24,628 actor Jenna Coleman. 28 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:26,963 The new Doctor ruffles her feathers 29 00:01:26,965 --> 00:01:29,099 in a way that the other Doctor didn't. 30 00:01:29,101 --> 00:01:31,368 I take a stroll down memory lane 31 00:01:31,370 --> 00:01:33,336 with former companion Noel Clarke. 32 00:01:33,338 --> 00:01:35,772 The companions makes it relatable to the guy at home 33 00:01:35,774 --> 00:01:38,008 who's like, "well, I can't quite be the Doctor, 34 00:01:38,010 --> 00:01:41,111 but I could be the companion." 35 00:01:41,113 --> 00:01:43,280 Got it? Thank you. Yeah. 36 00:01:43,282 --> 00:01:46,816 I go to America and hear from the very popular 37 00:01:46,818 --> 00:01:48,618 John Barrowman. 38 00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:50,020 Once you are in this -- I call it 39 00:01:50,022 --> 00:01:51,621 the who family, you're there for 40 00:01:51,623 --> 00:01:53,056 the rest of your life. 41 00:01:53,058 --> 00:01:55,125 I walk the corridors of the Doctor Who studios 42 00:01:55,127 --> 00:01:56,493 with showrunner Steven Moffat. 43 00:01:56,495 --> 00:01:57,961 The companion goes on 44 00:01:57,963 --> 00:02:00,363 a different journey from being just an ordinary person 45 00:02:00,365 --> 00:02:01,898 sometimes to being a superhero. 46 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:03,566 I go to the movies to see 47 00:02:03,568 --> 00:02:05,135 the tenth Doctor, David Tennant, 48 00:02:05,137 --> 00:02:06,936 back on the big screen. 49 00:02:06,938 --> 00:02:09,639 He seems drawn back to the idea of a soulmate. 50 00:02:09,641 --> 00:02:13,009 And I hear exclusively from the new twelfth Doctor, 51 00:02:13,011 --> 00:02:14,244 actor Peter Capaldi. 52 00:02:14,246 --> 00:02:16,513 There's a little bit of me that likes hearing 53 00:02:16,515 --> 00:02:20,950 Clara shout, "Doctor, Doctor!" As we run down the corridor. 54 00:02:25,756 --> 00:02:27,057 Oh, hello. 55 00:02:27,059 --> 00:02:29,626 I'm just trying to get my trusty TARDIS moving again. 56 00:02:29,628 --> 00:02:31,227 It's been well over 30 years since 57 00:02:31,229 --> 00:02:32,896 I began my time as the fifth Doctor, 58 00:02:32,898 --> 00:02:36,733 and they've finally given me a copy of the manual. 59 00:02:36,735 --> 00:02:38,535 Fascinating. 60 00:02:38,537 --> 00:02:41,938 It's all coming back to me. 61 00:02:41,940 --> 00:02:44,307 As Tom Baker's fourth Doctor regenerated, 62 00:02:44,309 --> 00:02:47,277 my time onboard the TARDIS as the fifth Doctor began. 63 00:02:49,046 --> 00:02:51,247 Together with my trusty companions, 64 00:02:51,249 --> 00:02:52,849 it was quite an experience. 65 00:03:00,057 --> 00:03:02,892 My time as the Doctor provided plenty of adventures 66 00:03:02,894 --> 00:03:05,095 as I traveled through space and time, 67 00:03:05,097 --> 00:03:07,797 but like the Time Lords that had gone before me, 68 00:03:07,799 --> 00:03:09,065 I didn't travel alone. 69 00:03:09,067 --> 00:03:12,135 The Doctor's always needed a companion, 70 00:03:12,137 --> 00:03:14,804 or two or three, to assist him in 71 00:03:14,806 --> 00:03:16,973 his time-traveling adventures 72 00:03:16,975 --> 00:03:20,877 and to get him out of the occasional scrape, or two. 73 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:23,346 Or three. 74 00:03:23,348 --> 00:03:25,982 You can see where I'm going with this, can't you? 75 00:03:25,984 --> 00:03:30,453 No? Okay. It's time for a clip. 76 00:03:30,455 --> 00:03:32,322 Even today, 77 00:03:32,324 --> 00:03:34,491 the Doctor's companion, Clara Oswald, 78 00:03:34,493 --> 00:03:37,660 can be relied upon to get him out of trouble 79 00:03:37,662 --> 00:03:39,963 and to occasionally save his life. 80 00:03:39,965 --> 00:03:42,432 No. Please. 81 00:03:42,434 --> 00:03:43,434 If this works, 82 00:03:43,435 --> 00:03:45,502 get out of here as fast as you can 83 00:03:45,504 --> 00:03:47,971 and spare me a thought now and then. 84 00:03:47,973 --> 00:03:50,473 No. Clara. 85 00:03:54,545 --> 00:03:55,912 In fact, do you know what? 86 00:03:55,914 --> 00:03:58,748 Run. 87 00:03:58,750 --> 00:04:00,550 Run, you clever boy. 88 00:04:00,552 --> 00:04:03,119 And remember me. 89 00:04:05,222 --> 00:04:07,190 No. Clara! 90 00:04:07,192 --> 00:04:11,027 Being a Doctor's companion, often the Doctor's lifesaver, 91 00:04:11,029 --> 00:04:14,497 is a big responsibility, so just what does it take? 92 00:04:14,499 --> 00:04:16,032 I want to find out for myself, 93 00:04:16,034 --> 00:04:17,867 what type of characters are they? 94 00:04:17,869 --> 00:04:19,736 Is there a formula or a blueprint 95 00:04:19,738 --> 00:04:21,571 to create a Doctor Who companion, 96 00:04:21,573 --> 00:04:23,673 and if so, what would it take to create 97 00:04:23,675 --> 00:04:25,608 the ultimate Doctor Who companion? 98 00:04:25,610 --> 00:04:28,244 So, with my trusty TARDIS now up and running, 99 00:04:28,246 --> 00:04:31,147 I think it's time I took one last trip to find out. 100 00:04:44,562 --> 00:04:47,997 The Doctor is a strange and unknowable man. 101 00:04:47,999 --> 00:04:50,099 He's -- you might be fascinated by him 102 00:04:50,101 --> 00:04:51,768 and in a way seduced by him, 103 00:04:51,770 --> 00:04:53,703 but you don't ever quite know him. 104 00:04:53,705 --> 00:04:55,004 You don't even know his name. 105 00:04:55,006 --> 00:04:56,739 So the main character of Doctor Who, 106 00:04:56,741 --> 00:04:58,608 in most cases, the person whose journey 107 00:04:58,610 --> 00:05:00,944 you're watching is actually the companion's journey. 108 00:05:00,946 --> 00:05:02,812 They're not just the Doctor's companion. 109 00:05:02,814 --> 00:05:04,714 In a way, the Doctor's their companion. 110 00:05:04,716 --> 00:05:08,017 It's about Rose Tyler or Amy Pond or Clara Oswald. 111 00:05:08,019 --> 00:05:10,320 It's their story, their journey, 112 00:05:10,322 --> 00:05:12,722 how that begins and how that ends. 113 00:05:12,724 --> 00:05:15,892 It's not that the companion is important to Doctor Who. 114 00:05:15,894 --> 00:05:18,895 You could almost argue the companion is Doctor Who. 115 00:05:18,897 --> 00:05:21,164 She is the person or he is the person 116 00:05:21,166 --> 00:05:24,100 who is asking that question embodied in the title. 117 00:06:11,973 --> 00:06:13,974 Ever since the first Doctor, 118 00:06:13,976 --> 00:06:16,910 there have been companions, and when it came to my Doctor, 119 00:06:16,912 --> 00:06:18,178 I was spoiled for choice. 120 00:06:18,180 --> 00:06:20,580 I had five in total, and they were all 121 00:06:20,582 --> 00:06:23,183 very different to each other. 122 00:06:23,185 --> 00:06:26,219 To help me gain a better idea 123 00:06:26,221 --> 00:06:28,021 of what it was like to travel with 124 00:06:28,023 --> 00:06:30,691 the Doctor back then, I've invited round 125 00:06:30,693 --> 00:06:32,959 Janet Fielding, who played Tegan, 126 00:06:32,961 --> 00:06:35,095 and Sarah Sutton, who played Nyssa 127 00:06:35,097 --> 00:06:37,364 to get an insider's point of view. 128 00:06:38,986 --> 00:06:40,557 The main reason I've asked you here 129 00:06:40,558 --> 00:06:42,025 is I'm set on a mission. 130 00:06:42,027 --> 00:06:44,694 I'm on a quest to discover if it's possible 131 00:06:44,696 --> 00:06:46,829 to design the ultimate companion. 132 00:06:46,831 --> 00:06:50,433 And as in my mind, you two were ultimate companions... 133 00:06:50,435 --> 00:06:52,735 Well said. Good answer. 134 00:06:52,737 --> 00:06:54,103 So far. 135 00:06:54,696 --> 00:06:56,722 I just wondered if you have any ideas about, you know, 136 00:06:56,723 --> 00:06:58,789 what makes an ultimate companion, 137 00:06:58,791 --> 00:07:01,025 what qualities do they have to have? 138 00:07:01,027 --> 00:07:03,194 Well, to me the Doctor perhaps sees 139 00:07:03,196 --> 00:07:05,863 the problem-solving thing in a different way. 140 00:07:05,865 --> 00:07:08,432 'Cause if the assistant or companion, beg your pardon, 141 00:07:08,434 --> 00:07:10,201 wasn't there getting into trouble, 142 00:07:10,203 --> 00:07:12,670 then the Doctor would have just gone off 143 00:07:12,672 --> 00:07:15,706 and done his own thing, solved something in one way, 144 00:07:15,708 --> 00:07:18,175 and maybe the companion makes the Doctor 145 00:07:18,177 --> 00:07:20,778 see things through a different perspective. 146 00:07:20,780 --> 00:07:21,780 Do you agree? 147 00:07:21,781 --> 00:07:23,948 Yes, of course, but isn't it true, 148 00:07:23,950 --> 00:07:26,050 or maybe it wasn't so true, then, 149 00:07:26,052 --> 00:07:29,020 that we see the TARDIS and the Doctor's adventures 150 00:07:29,022 --> 00:07:31,022 through the eyes of the companion? 151 00:07:31,024 --> 00:07:33,324 I think it's truer now, isn't it? 152 00:07:33,326 --> 00:07:34,558 Yeah, I think so. 153 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:35,926 It's much truer now. 154 00:07:35,928 --> 00:07:37,695 I think the companions now, 155 00:07:37,697 --> 00:07:42,475 much more -- you know, you relate to them much more. 156 00:07:42,965 --> 00:07:45,767 So let's see how the companions' 157 00:07:45,768 --> 00:07:47,501 relationship with the Doctor has changed. 158 00:07:47,503 --> 00:07:49,069 Cue Clara. 159 00:07:53,941 --> 00:07:55,909 Draft. 160 00:07:59,547 --> 00:08:01,982 Fancy a week in ancient Mesopotamia 161 00:08:01,984 --> 00:08:03,784 followed by future Mars? 162 00:08:03,786 --> 00:08:04,818 Will there be cocktails? 163 00:08:04,820 --> 00:08:08,021 On the Moon. 164 00:08:08,023 --> 00:08:09,556 The Moon'll do. 165 00:08:09,558 --> 00:08:11,224 Ha ha! 166 00:08:11,226 --> 00:08:13,460 What they've discovered in the new series, 167 00:08:13,462 --> 00:08:16,196 it seems to me, is just how to make 168 00:08:16,198 --> 00:08:18,899 the companions just more important. 169 00:08:39,101 --> 00:08:41,868 The doctors were more emotionally remote 170 00:08:41,870 --> 00:08:44,004 in the '80s, weren't they? 171 00:08:44,006 --> 00:08:45,171 Yes. 172 00:08:45,173 --> 00:08:47,641 So the whole point was that you weren't -- 173 00:08:47,643 --> 00:08:50,277 your characters weren't very emotional. 174 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:52,078 You were complete outsiders. 175 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,781 Whereas you notice -- especially I notice 176 00:08:54,783 --> 00:08:57,517 with Matt Smith, watching the interaction 177 00:08:57,519 --> 00:08:59,486 between him, Rory, and Amy, 178 00:08:59,488 --> 00:09:03,323 and he does that with a certain air of wistfulness. 179 00:09:05,359 --> 00:09:08,061 2,000 years. 180 00:09:08,063 --> 00:09:11,931 The boy who waited. 181 00:09:11,933 --> 00:09:14,734 Good on you, mate. 182 00:09:20,041 --> 00:09:22,475 Have you got any contributions in terms of 183 00:09:22,477 --> 00:09:25,245 what traits and qualities I should put on my list 184 00:09:25,247 --> 00:09:26,746 for my ultimate companion? 185 00:09:26,748 --> 00:09:29,449 It's that likability, and you have to have 186 00:09:29,451 --> 00:09:31,117 a fallibility, I think you do, 187 00:09:31,119 --> 00:09:32,919 you have to have flaws, you know? 188 00:09:32,921 --> 00:09:34,487 I think the flaws, actually, 189 00:09:34,489 --> 00:09:37,123 I'm beginning to realize the flaws are as important, 190 00:09:37,125 --> 00:09:38,391 really, as the qualities. 191 00:09:38,393 --> 00:09:40,827 To create the drama. 192 00:09:40,829 --> 00:09:43,396 Well, thank you both very much for coming along, 193 00:09:43,398 --> 00:09:45,632 and it's been very useful to talk to you. 194 00:09:52,007 --> 00:09:53,782 As Clara Oswald is about to start 195 00:09:53,783 --> 00:09:56,818 a new journey with a new Doctor played by actor 196 00:09:56,820 --> 00:09:59,086 Peter Capaldi, I want to know what she should expect 197 00:09:59,088 --> 00:10:02,490 when a new Doctor begins his time on the TARDIS. 198 00:10:02,492 --> 00:10:03,858 No, no! 199 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,828 Please don't change. 200 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:20,374 So I've met up with actress Nicola Bryant, 201 00:10:20,376 --> 00:10:23,344 who played my American companion Peri Brown, 202 00:10:23,346 --> 00:10:25,112 to find out how she managed 203 00:10:25,114 --> 00:10:27,748 when I regenerated from the fifth Doctor 204 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:30,151 into Colin Baker's new sixth Doctor. 205 00:10:30,153 --> 00:10:32,353 You had it particularly difficult, 206 00:10:32,355 --> 00:10:34,856 and it's a problem that Jenna Coleman is 207 00:10:34,858 --> 00:10:36,858 about to come up against, and that is that up to now, 208 00:10:36,860 --> 00:10:38,092 you did two very nice stories 209 00:10:38,094 --> 00:10:40,027 with me as the Doctor, including, actually, 210 00:10:40,029 --> 00:10:42,196 one of the greatest Doctor Who stories ever made, 211 00:10:42,198 --> 00:10:44,532 "The Caves of Androzani," and then at the end of that, 212 00:10:44,534 --> 00:10:47,168 suddenly, whoosh, I turn into Colin Baker, 213 00:10:47,170 --> 00:10:50,504 and you have a completely different Doctor to deal with. 214 00:10:50,506 --> 00:10:53,007 Now, we built up a kind of relationship 215 00:10:53,009 --> 00:10:54,442 over those two stories. 216 00:10:54,444 --> 00:10:56,043 How difficult was it then to move on? 217 00:10:56,045 --> 00:10:58,813 I think in terms of the character, 218 00:10:58,815 --> 00:11:02,083 in terms of Peri, you just, like an actor, 219 00:11:02,085 --> 00:11:04,886 you have to be incredibly flexible. 220 00:11:04,888 --> 00:11:06,954 I think the reason she stayed -- 221 00:11:06,956 --> 00:11:09,156 'cause you have to find the reason. 222 00:11:09,158 --> 00:11:11,459 Why am I staying with this new Doctor 223 00:11:11,461 --> 00:11:14,862 who in my case was particularly cantankerous and difficult? 224 00:11:19,234 --> 00:11:20,534 Doctor? 225 00:11:20,536 --> 00:11:22,203 You were expecting someone else? 226 00:11:24,206 --> 00:11:25,740 I...I...I... 227 00:11:25,742 --> 00:11:28,109 Those three "I's" in one breath makes you sound 228 00:11:28,111 --> 00:11:29,877 a rather egotistical young lady. 229 00:11:29,879 --> 00:11:31,913 And I look at Doctor Who now, 230 00:11:31,915 --> 00:11:34,148 and I just wondered how you viewed 231 00:11:34,150 --> 00:11:36,918 the Doctor Who now in the sense that I think 232 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,754 when it came back, from Rose onwards, really, 233 00:11:39,756 --> 00:11:43,090 the companion became so much more of an important part. 234 00:11:43,092 --> 00:11:45,359 I have to say that when I saw Rose, 235 00:11:45,361 --> 00:11:48,195 it was almost like her journey was the journey 236 00:11:48,197 --> 00:11:50,097 that I wanted Peri to go on. 237 00:11:50,099 --> 00:11:52,833 I love you. 238 00:11:55,137 --> 00:11:57,171 Quite right, too. 239 00:12:01,209 --> 00:12:02,576 And I suppose... 240 00:12:04,613 --> 00:12:06,881 It's my last chance to say it. 241 00:12:12,688 --> 00:12:14,889 Rose Tyler -- 242 00:13:06,164 --> 00:13:07,832 Okay, 243 00:13:07,834 --> 00:13:10,501 I think we've established on top of everything else, 244 00:13:10,503 --> 00:13:12,837 we doctors give the companions a big problem. 245 00:13:12,839 --> 00:13:15,206 No sooner do we welcome them into the TARDIS, 246 00:13:15,208 --> 00:13:17,575 make them feel really at home, and we suddenly 247 00:13:17,577 --> 00:13:19,677 turn into someone completely different. 248 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,113 They have to be the ultimate in adaptability 249 00:13:23,115 --> 00:13:26,050 and yet know exactly what they want. 250 00:13:28,787 --> 00:13:31,856 Clara is an unusual one because she has to 251 00:13:31,858 --> 00:13:34,325 go through two doctors, in fact. 252 00:13:34,327 --> 00:13:36,961 Several more if you count the 50th. 253 00:13:36,963 --> 00:13:40,498 And Clara being I suppose a girl who likes 254 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:43,901 everything in its box, quite in control, 255 00:13:43,903 --> 00:13:46,670 quite sort of perfect in a way, 256 00:13:46,672 --> 00:13:49,106 um, has a great time with the Matt Smith Doctor 257 00:13:49,108 --> 00:13:50,908 because he rolls over on his back 258 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:53,110 and she tickles his tummy and that's fine. 259 00:13:53,112 --> 00:13:55,312 She gets all the adoration she requires 260 00:13:55,314 --> 00:13:57,481 and she puts him back in his police box 261 00:13:57,483 --> 00:14:00,417 when she's bored of him and goes back to a normal life. 262 00:14:00,419 --> 00:14:02,920 Then along comes the Peter Capaldi Doctor, 263 00:14:02,922 --> 00:14:05,589 and things change, rather, but you'll have to 264 00:14:05,591 --> 00:14:07,525 keep watching to find out how. 265 00:14:11,563 --> 00:14:14,064 It's fair to say that the tenth Doctor 266 00:14:14,066 --> 00:14:16,233 recruited a diverse range of companions, 267 00:14:16,235 --> 00:14:19,270 so who better to ask about what makes an ultimate companion 268 00:14:19,272 --> 00:14:21,539 than the man himself, actor David Tennant? 269 00:14:21,541 --> 00:14:24,909 Right, okay, so, David, thank you very much 270 00:14:24,911 --> 00:14:27,878 for spending some time and coming along today. 271 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,581 I wanted to ask you, why do you think the Doctor 272 00:14:30,583 --> 00:14:31,782 needs a companion? 273 00:14:31,784 --> 00:14:34,218 When he periods of traveling alone, 274 00:14:34,220 --> 00:14:38,188 which my Doctor certainly did, he seems drawn back to the idea 275 00:14:38,190 --> 00:14:42,693 of a soulmate after not very much time on his own. 276 00:14:42,695 --> 00:14:47,031 I think perhaps he doesn't like his own company. 277 00:14:47,033 --> 00:14:49,133 Do you find that different companions 278 00:14:49,135 --> 00:14:51,435 complemented the Doctor in different ways? 279 00:14:51,437 --> 00:14:54,071 How did you find playing with different companions 280 00:14:54,073 --> 00:14:55,372 affecting the way you -- 281 00:14:55,374 --> 00:14:57,708 Well, I suppose one of the difficult things 282 00:14:57,710 --> 00:14:58,876 in the character that 283 00:14:58,878 --> 00:15:01,045 any kind of heroic character that kind of 284 00:15:01,047 --> 00:15:03,447 can't change too much or the series is broken, 285 00:15:03,449 --> 00:15:05,416 you kind of -- you're always looking 286 00:15:05,418 --> 00:15:07,918 for new ways to explore who that character is, 287 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,020 and one of the best ways of doing that 288 00:15:10,022 --> 00:15:12,523 is by giving them a different opposite number, 289 00:15:12,525 --> 00:15:14,592 and to change the kind of dynamics of 290 00:15:14,594 --> 00:15:17,061 those opposite numbers, to show different aspects 291 00:15:17,063 --> 00:15:19,263 of that continuing character's personality. 292 00:15:19,265 --> 00:15:21,465 But talking about it affecting the dynamics, 293 00:15:21,467 --> 00:15:23,534 we have a clip here of you in the TARDIS, 294 00:15:23,536 --> 00:15:26,203 and I thought, as I say, I had three and that was a lot. 295 00:15:26,205 --> 00:15:27,371 Look at this. 296 00:15:27,373 --> 00:15:28,839 Cue the curtains! 297 00:15:28,841 --> 00:15:31,775 It's like the Saturday morning pictures all over again. 298 00:15:32,844 --> 00:15:35,512 Sarah, hold that. Mickey, you hold that. 299 00:15:35,514 --> 00:15:37,514 'Cause you know why this TARDIS is always 300 00:15:37,516 --> 00:15:39,116 rattling about the place? Rose, that, there. 301 00:15:39,118 --> 00:15:40,417 It was designed to have six pilots, 302 00:15:40,419 --> 00:15:41,952 and I have to do it single-handed. 303 00:15:41,954 --> 00:15:43,354 Martha, keep that level. 304 00:15:43,356 --> 00:15:45,723 But not anymore. Jack, there you go, steady that. 305 00:15:45,725 --> 00:15:48,692 Now we can fly this thing -- n--no, Jackie, 306 00:15:48,694 --> 00:15:49,793 no, no, not you. 307 00:15:49,795 --> 00:15:51,462 Don't touch anything. Just... 308 00:15:51,464 --> 00:15:53,364 Stand back. 309 00:15:53,366 --> 00:15:56,066 All right, then. Off we go. 310 00:16:01,006 --> 00:16:03,240 So there you are dealing with the multidynamics 311 00:16:03,242 --> 00:16:05,042 of an enormous number of companions. 312 00:16:05,044 --> 00:16:06,044 I couldn't even -- 313 00:16:06,045 --> 00:16:07,478 almost as many as you had. 314 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,113 Almost as many, yeah, 315 00:16:09,115 --> 00:16:10,881 and in that scene, for example, 316 00:16:10,883 --> 00:16:12,916 I thought, you know, you were playing 317 00:16:12,918 --> 00:16:15,452 multi-comedic facets of those various companions 318 00:16:15,454 --> 00:16:17,388 that you'd picked up along the way, 319 00:16:17,390 --> 00:16:19,390 and it is quite important, isn't it? 320 00:16:19,392 --> 00:16:21,592 I mean, apart from imparting information, 321 00:16:21,594 --> 00:16:23,694 it's also a chance to have a bit of fun. 322 00:16:23,696 --> 00:16:26,096 Yes, I suppose, otherwise it can be a bit dour, 323 00:16:26,098 --> 00:16:28,766 can't it, and I suppose there's always going to be -- 324 00:16:28,768 --> 00:16:32,403 because the Doctor's always going to be older, 325 00:16:32,405 --> 00:16:36,874 wiser, alien, and the companion tends to be younger, human, 326 00:16:36,876 --> 00:16:40,110 there's a disparity there which lends itself 327 00:16:40,112 --> 00:16:42,346 to comedy, I guess, as well. 328 00:16:42,348 --> 00:16:45,015 Absolutely. So what do you think that our companion -- 329 00:16:45,017 --> 00:16:47,084 are there things that you could actually 330 00:16:47,086 --> 00:16:49,953 lay down and say a companion needs to have these qualities? 331 00:16:49,955 --> 00:16:52,523 You need to have a certain courage. 332 00:17:54,725 --> 00:18:00,695 A wanderlust, um, and I suppose 333 00:18:00,697 --> 00:18:02,664 a sense of themself, a sense -- 334 00:18:02,666 --> 00:18:04,532 you need someone who can stand up to him. 335 00:18:04,534 --> 00:18:06,701 So confidence. 336 00:18:06,703 --> 00:18:07,769 Needs a lot of confidence. 337 00:18:07,771 --> 00:18:08,937 Excellent, it's been really helpful. 338 00:18:08,939 --> 00:18:11,506 Good, I'm delighted to be of service. 339 00:18:11,508 --> 00:18:12,540 Thank you. 340 00:18:14,593 --> 00:18:16,827 One of the most obvious things I can see 341 00:18:16,829 --> 00:18:18,462 when it comes to being a companion 342 00:18:18,464 --> 00:18:20,131 is that they have to be courageous 343 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:24,001 in the face of danger, and for the companions, 344 00:18:24,003 --> 00:18:28,239 when the Doctor's around, danger is never far away. 345 00:18:28,241 --> 00:18:31,942 So to find out what it takes to step up and stare danger 346 00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:35,646 right between the eyes, I'm meeting up with someone who, 347 00:18:35,648 --> 00:18:38,716 well, let's just say they learnt to be brave. 348 00:18:38,718 --> 00:18:41,018 Ah. 349 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:42,353 I think he's here. 350 00:18:42,355 --> 00:18:43,554 Hello, sir. 351 00:18:43,556 --> 00:18:45,723 How are you? I'm good. How are you doing? 352 00:18:45,725 --> 00:18:47,324 Nice to see you. Yeah, you too. 353 00:18:47,326 --> 00:18:48,426 The truth is, Noel, 354 00:18:48,428 --> 00:18:50,394 I've always wanted to meet someone 355 00:18:50,396 --> 00:18:52,229 in the middle of Chelsea bridge. 356 00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:53,330 Well, we're meeting. 357 00:18:53,332 --> 00:18:55,633 No, the thing is, I've been set this quest 358 00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:58,169 to discover a design for the ultimate companion, 359 00:18:58,171 --> 00:18:59,904 and we've asked various people 360 00:18:59,906 --> 00:19:02,440 for suggestions about what it takes to make 361 00:19:02,442 --> 00:19:03,607 an ultimate companion. 362 00:19:03,609 --> 00:19:05,476 What's interesting about your case 363 00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:07,445 is that you didn't start off as one, 364 00:19:07,447 --> 00:19:09,947 it seemed to me, anyway, correct me if I'm wrong. 365 00:19:09,949 --> 00:19:12,783 You seemed to start off as a slightly weedly, 366 00:19:12,785 --> 00:19:14,185 almost dumped boyfriend. 367 00:19:14,187 --> 00:19:16,220 Yeah, very much so, very much so. 368 00:19:16,222 --> 00:19:18,289 I think that was sort of the idea. 369 00:19:28,433 --> 00:19:29,700 Originally the character 370 00:19:29,702 --> 00:19:31,902 was only supposed to be in for three episodes, 371 00:19:31,904 --> 00:19:33,804 you know, because it was such a weedly, 372 00:19:33,806 --> 00:19:35,372 you know, scaredy-cat character. 373 00:19:35,374 --> 00:19:37,641 They knew that the Doctor wouldn't really like him 374 00:19:37,643 --> 00:19:39,944 and they knew the fans wouldn't really take to him, 375 00:19:39,946 --> 00:19:42,613 and so he was supposed to be that sort of take-for-granted -- 376 00:19:42,615 --> 00:19:44,882 take his girlfriend for granted type of boyfriend. 377 00:19:44,884 --> 00:19:47,084 A fat lot good you were. 378 00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:52,189 Nesting Consciousness? 379 00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:53,824 Easy. Right, then. 380 00:19:53,826 --> 00:19:55,926 I'll be off. 381 00:19:55,928 --> 00:19:58,028 Unless, I don't know. 382 00:19:58,030 --> 00:20:00,030 You could come with me. 383 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:01,065 Don't. 384 00:20:01,067 --> 00:20:03,434 He's an alien, he's a thing! 385 00:20:03,436 --> 00:20:05,102 He's not invited. 386 00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:08,038 You did then become gradually more heroic 387 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,607 as the series went on. 388 00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:11,675 Like real life, obviously. 389 00:20:36,677 --> 00:20:38,677 There's an argument, of course, 390 00:20:38,679 --> 00:20:41,447 that the companion, since the series came back, 391 00:20:41,449 --> 00:20:43,682 that the companions are as important 392 00:20:43,684 --> 00:20:46,519 if not sometimes more important than the Doctor. 393 00:20:46,521 --> 00:20:47,887 I think they ground it. 394 00:20:47,889 --> 00:20:49,788 I think they ground the show. 395 00:20:49,790 --> 00:20:51,590 They bring the real life element. 396 00:20:51,592 --> 00:20:53,592 You know, Rose with Mickey and Jackie 397 00:20:53,594 --> 00:20:56,762 and then, you know, Martha and her family and Donna and, 398 00:20:56,764 --> 00:20:58,297 the companions bring that, 399 00:20:58,299 --> 00:21:00,399 and I think it makes it relatable 400 00:21:00,401 --> 00:21:02,134 to the guy at home who's like, 401 00:21:02,136 --> 00:21:04,336 "well, I can't quite be the Doctor, 402 00:21:04,338 --> 00:21:06,772 but I could be the companion," you know? 403 00:21:06,774 --> 00:21:08,841 So it's a combination, what you need, 404 00:21:08,843 --> 00:21:11,510 and I guess you have it, is a combination 405 00:21:11,512 --> 00:21:13,646 of uniqueness and yet everyman. 406 00:21:13,648 --> 00:21:15,748 The everyman, yeah. Which is a fantastic quality to have. 407 00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:17,816 Well, thanks very much. 408 00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:19,418 Thank you so much for having me. 409 00:21:21,621 --> 00:21:24,123 I'm beginning to get a good idea 410 00:21:24,125 --> 00:21:26,725 of the elements that help make a companion. 411 00:21:26,727 --> 00:21:29,228 So far, I've realized that the companions 412 00:21:29,230 --> 00:21:31,964 have to be keen on adventure, 413 00:21:31,966 --> 00:21:34,500 they have to be adaptable, heroic, even. 414 00:21:34,502 --> 00:21:37,469 But what about the actors who play the companion? 415 00:21:37,471 --> 00:21:40,239 They have to take this part and make it their own, 416 00:21:40,241 --> 00:21:43,142 face all the challenges thrown at them by the Doctor, 417 00:21:43,144 --> 00:21:45,244 and yet make their companion unique. 418 00:21:45,246 --> 00:21:47,379 Just as actor Jenna Coleman has. 419 00:21:47,381 --> 00:21:50,783 Hello. 420 00:21:50,785 --> 00:21:51,884 Clara Oswald. 421 00:21:51,886 --> 00:21:54,053 Yeah? Clara Oswin Oswald? 422 00:21:54,055 --> 00:21:55,988 Just Clara Oswald. What was that middle one? 423 00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:58,057 Do you remember me? 424 00:21:58,059 --> 00:21:59,858 No. 425 00:21:59,860 --> 00:22:01,327 Should I? Who are you? 426 00:22:01,329 --> 00:22:02,561 The Doctor. 427 00:22:02,563 --> 00:22:03,729 No? 428 00:22:03,731 --> 00:22:04,897 The Doctor? 429 00:22:04,899 --> 00:22:06,699 Doctor Who? 430 00:22:06,701 --> 00:22:08,767 No, just the Doctor. 431 00:22:09,736 --> 00:22:12,071 Actually, sorry, could you just ask me that again? 432 00:22:12,073 --> 00:22:14,306 Could I what? Just ask me that question again? 433 00:22:14,308 --> 00:22:15,941 Doctor Who. 434 00:22:15,943 --> 00:22:17,009 Okay, just once more. 435 00:22:17,011 --> 00:22:18,043 Doctor Who? 436 00:22:18,045 --> 00:22:19,045 Oh, yeah. 437 00:22:19,046 --> 00:22:21,180 Ooh. 438 00:22:21,182 --> 00:22:22,182 Do you know, 439 00:22:22,183 --> 00:22:24,350 I never realized how much I enjoy 440 00:22:24,352 --> 00:22:26,785 hearing that said out loud. Thank you. 441 00:22:26,787 --> 00:22:29,255 Okay. Hey, no! Clara! 442 00:22:32,025 --> 00:22:36,362 The main thing about auditions is that when they work, 443 00:22:36,364 --> 00:22:39,598 you start off explaining the character 444 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,568 to the actor or actress, and then, 445 00:22:42,570 --> 00:22:44,703 in the course of a successful audition, 446 00:22:44,705 --> 00:22:46,972 they start explaining the character to you 447 00:22:46,974 --> 00:22:49,675 and the way they act, and it just happens sometimes, 448 00:22:49,677 --> 00:22:50,709 it just catches fire. 449 00:22:50,711 --> 00:22:52,511 It's the easiest thing in the world 450 00:22:52,513 --> 00:22:54,713 to spot a successful audition, to spot a star. 451 00:22:54,715 --> 00:22:55,981 It really is. 452 00:22:55,983 --> 00:22:58,384 The stardom is not difficult to see. 453 00:22:58,386 --> 00:23:00,586 With Jenna as Clara, 454 00:23:00,588 --> 00:23:02,888 I remember very vividly, there was just a moment 455 00:23:02,890 --> 00:23:05,424 when she and Matt were reacting to something together, 456 00:23:05,426 --> 00:23:07,092 and I thought, "oh, my goodness, 457 00:23:07,094 --> 00:23:08,360 she absolutely gets it. 458 00:23:08,362 --> 00:23:10,729 She gets what kind of storytelling this is." 459 00:23:10,731 --> 00:23:12,931 And she's got a wonderful face and wonderful eyes, 460 00:23:12,933 --> 00:23:13,933 she was so funny, 461 00:23:13,934 --> 00:23:15,034 she was fast. 462 00:23:15,036 --> 00:23:16,602 She was just perfect. 463 00:23:16,604 --> 00:23:19,371 But, you know, there was no expertise 464 00:23:19,373 --> 00:23:21,607 on my part involved in that. 465 00:23:21,609 --> 00:23:23,709 Maybe some expertise on the part of Andy Pryor, 466 00:23:23,711 --> 00:23:25,577 the casting director, but not on my part. 467 00:23:25,579 --> 00:23:27,946 Anyone could have spotted that that was the right girl, 468 00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:30,115 'cause she was brilliant, and brilliance is very, 469 00:23:30,117 --> 00:23:31,750 very easy to detect. 470 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:39,311 I'm meeting Doctor Who's 471 00:23:39,312 --> 00:23:41,590 casting director, Andy Pryor. 472 00:23:42,993 --> 00:23:44,187 So with regards to 473 00:23:44,188 --> 00:23:46,288 the companion, presumably they give you 474 00:23:46,290 --> 00:23:48,757 a certain amount of parameters to make your job 475 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:50,659 a little bit easier, so you can go 476 00:23:50,661 --> 00:23:53,261 and look for the characteristics that they require. 477 00:23:53,263 --> 00:23:55,430 Well, as with all casting, really, 478 00:23:55,432 --> 00:23:57,099 it is driven by the writing. 479 00:23:57,101 --> 00:23:59,334 You know, the key and crucial thing 480 00:23:59,336 --> 00:24:01,436 is the writing and the interpreting that 481 00:24:01,438 --> 00:24:03,371 in the casting the best way you can. 482 00:24:03,373 --> 00:24:05,107 Quite often with the companion, 483 00:24:05,109 --> 00:24:07,709 the showrunner will have had an idea about 484 00:24:07,711 --> 00:24:10,312 what kind of character he wants them to be. 485 00:24:10,314 --> 00:24:12,881 But really, until you get the scenes on the page, 486 00:24:12,883 --> 00:24:15,150 the dialogue on the page, and you can hear 487 00:24:15,152 --> 00:24:18,286 the characters speaking, then it's quite difficult 488 00:24:18,288 --> 00:24:20,122 to make a full judgement on it. 489 00:24:20,124 --> 00:24:23,391 Now, presumably there was some kind of balance 490 00:24:23,393 --> 00:24:26,528 that you looked for when the Doctor was Matt 491 00:24:26,530 --> 00:24:29,664 and the companion was Jenna and now you have 492 00:24:29,666 --> 00:24:31,099 a different Doctor. 493 00:24:31,101 --> 00:24:34,636 I suppose what I'm saying is that you need an actor 494 00:24:34,638 --> 00:24:37,973 who can sort of play the part across the board, 495 00:24:37,975 --> 00:24:39,541 you know, very adaptable. 496 00:24:39,543 --> 00:24:42,010 Yes, I mean, one of the difficulties is that, 497 00:24:42,012 --> 00:24:44,112 you know, you can't predict chemistry 498 00:24:44,114 --> 00:24:46,081 until you put two actors together, 499 00:24:46,083 --> 00:24:48,683 and then when you change Doctor, you don't quite know 500 00:24:48,685 --> 00:24:50,919 what's going to happen, I think the companion 501 00:24:50,921 --> 00:24:53,955 has the great benefit of already having been established 502 00:24:53,957 --> 00:24:59,227 in that case, and Jenna had established Clara brilliantly 503 00:24:59,229 --> 00:25:01,496 by the time we'd cast Peter, 504 00:25:01,498 --> 00:25:04,733 and I think that's probably helpful for another actor, 505 00:25:04,735 --> 00:25:06,768 in this case Peter, coming in, 506 00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:09,938 to have somebody there who sort of knows the ropes, 507 00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:13,842 so it ends up becoming quite a sort of mutual support thing 508 00:25:13,844 --> 00:25:15,043 between the two actors. 509 00:25:15,045 --> 00:25:16,745 So, meeting Andy has been very useful. 510 00:25:16,747 --> 00:25:19,514 It's clear that our ultimate companion 511 00:25:19,516 --> 00:25:23,485 has to be a good actor but also have a strong personality. 512 00:25:23,487 --> 00:25:26,922 You see, the companion is how we view the TARDIS. 513 00:25:26,924 --> 00:25:30,859 It's who we share all our time-traveling experiences with. 514 00:25:30,861 --> 00:25:33,228 We really do have to like them. 515 00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:36,631 Really has to be the right person for the job. 516 00:25:43,806 --> 00:25:46,308 Since the return of the show in 2004, 517 00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:49,244 each companion has had their own theme music, 518 00:25:49,246 --> 00:25:51,846 from Rose to Martha, from Donna to Amy, 519 00:25:51,848 --> 00:25:53,548 and now, of course, Clara. 520 00:25:53,550 --> 00:25:57,152 Each has had a piece of music dedicated to them. 521 00:25:57,154 --> 00:26:00,255 I want to find out why. 522 00:26:01,701 --> 00:26:03,534 So I've come to a recording studio 523 00:26:03,535 --> 00:26:06,722 in London to speak to the man who penned all of those themes, 524 00:26:06,723 --> 00:26:09,623 Doctor Who's composer, Murray Gold. 525 00:26:10,609 --> 00:26:13,944 So, Murray, thanks very much for helping us out with this. 526 00:26:13,946 --> 00:26:15,913 Tell us about Clara's theme. 527 00:26:15,915 --> 00:26:18,215 Well, that's a good case in point, 528 00:26:18,217 --> 00:26:21,819 because Clara came in at a time when the stories had become 529 00:26:21,821 --> 00:26:24,288 very melodramatic, and you could see 530 00:26:24,290 --> 00:26:28,559 that she was sort of off-the-cuff and flighty 531 00:26:28,561 --> 00:26:33,497 and smart and didn't have a lot of baggage, you know. 532 00:26:33,499 --> 00:26:35,899 She had a freshness about her. 533 00:26:35,901 --> 00:26:38,802 And so I wanted to carry that through in the music. 534 00:26:43,608 --> 00:26:44,808 Hello? 535 00:26:44,810 --> 00:26:46,410 Hello! 536 00:27:53,712 --> 00:27:57,847 So, Murray, with my design for the ultimate Doctor's companion, 537 00:27:57,849 --> 00:28:00,583 what would you -- what themes would you 538 00:28:00,585 --> 00:28:04,688 be reflecting in the music for the ultimate companion? 539 00:28:04,690 --> 00:28:06,156 Ultimate companion? 540 00:28:06,158 --> 00:28:09,426 She's just curious and tells the Doctor the truth 541 00:28:09,428 --> 00:28:13,163 and also hides the truth, and there's a bunch of opposites 542 00:28:13,165 --> 00:28:15,031 all contained in one person, 543 00:28:15,033 --> 00:28:18,768 and I don't know, it's a difficult task, 544 00:28:18,770 --> 00:28:20,470 that, ultimate -- 545 00:28:20,472 --> 00:28:24,274 Okay, I'll let you know. Okay. Please do. 546 00:28:25,354 --> 00:28:27,456 One of the main responsibilities about playing 547 00:28:27,457 --> 00:28:29,991 the Doctor's companion is what it means to the fans. 548 00:28:29,993 --> 00:28:32,794 How will you be received, how will it change your life? 549 00:28:32,796 --> 00:28:35,029 Well, to find out, I'm off to Houston, Texas, 550 00:28:35,031 --> 00:28:37,632 and the good old U.S. of "A" to talk to John Barrowman, 551 00:28:37,634 --> 00:28:39,200 who played Captain Jack Harkness, 552 00:28:39,202 --> 00:28:40,368 see what he thinks. 553 00:28:40,370 --> 00:28:43,771 Only problem is, what did I do with the TARDIS? 554 00:28:43,773 --> 00:28:46,240 Ah! 555 00:28:48,178 --> 00:28:53,214 Ah. Seems like I still have the hang of flying this thing. 556 00:28:53,216 --> 00:28:55,249 Yes, this definitely looks like Texas. 557 00:28:55,251 --> 00:28:57,318 Now all I have to do is track down John 558 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,755 among all these fans. 559 00:29:00,757 --> 00:29:02,557 There's quite a lot of them. 560 00:29:14,562 --> 00:29:17,787 Captain Jack Harkness, played by actor John Barrowman, 561 00:29:17,788 --> 00:29:19,822 proved to be one of Doctor Who's 562 00:29:19,824 --> 00:29:22,157 most popular characters, and for John, 563 00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:24,960 playing the part of the Doctor's companion 564 00:29:24,962 --> 00:29:26,795 literally changed his life. 565 00:29:26,797 --> 00:29:28,130 I think he came with us. 566 00:29:28,132 --> 00:29:29,531 How do you mean, from earth? 567 00:29:29,533 --> 00:29:32,267 Must have been clinging to the outside of the TARDIS. 568 00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:33,836 All the way through the vortex? 569 00:29:33,838 --> 00:29:35,004 Wow, that's very him. 570 00:29:35,006 --> 00:29:36,105 What, do you know him? 571 00:29:36,107 --> 00:29:37,940 Friend of mine. 572 00:29:37,942 --> 00:29:39,942 Used to travel with me back in the old days. 573 00:29:39,944 --> 00:29:42,344 But he's... 574 00:29:42,346 --> 00:29:43,846 I'm sorry, there's no heartbeat. 575 00:29:43,848 --> 00:29:45,214 There's nothing. 576 00:29:45,216 --> 00:29:46,448 He's dead. 577 00:29:46,450 --> 00:29:48,517 Aaah! 578 00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:50,185 Oh, so much for me! 579 00:29:50,187 --> 00:29:52,254 It's all right, breathe deep, I've got you. 580 00:29:52,256 --> 00:29:55,024 Captain Jack Harkness. 581 00:29:55,026 --> 00:29:56,692 And who are you? 582 00:29:56,694 --> 00:29:57,694 Martha Jones. 583 00:29:57,695 --> 00:29:59,395 Nice to meet you, Martha Jones. 584 00:29:59,397 --> 00:30:01,330 Oh, don't start! 585 00:30:01,332 --> 00:30:02,564 I was only saying hello. 586 00:30:02,566 --> 00:30:03,566 I don't mind. 587 00:30:05,969 --> 00:30:07,202 Got it? Yeah. 588 00:30:07,204 --> 00:30:09,972 Thank you, awesome. Thank you very much. 589 00:30:09,974 --> 00:30:13,008 John is appearing at a science fiction convention 590 00:30:13,010 --> 00:30:15,344 where fans are gathering to meet 591 00:30:15,346 --> 00:30:17,179 their favorite superheroes and companions. 592 00:30:17,181 --> 00:30:18,714 Now I've found him, 593 00:30:18,716 --> 00:30:21,383 I just need to get his attention. 594 00:30:21,385 --> 00:30:24,053 John! Any chance you could make this -- 595 00:30:24,055 --> 00:30:26,288 just hold on a minute, okay? 596 00:30:26,290 --> 00:30:28,057 Just about five minutes. 597 00:30:28,059 --> 00:30:29,491 Five minutes? Okay. 598 00:30:31,695 --> 00:30:34,797 There you go, is that okay? 599 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,533 John, it's been 20 minutes. 600 00:30:37,535 --> 00:30:40,369 It's probably going to be an hour, 601 00:30:40,371 --> 00:30:41,970 so just hang tight. 602 00:30:41,972 --> 00:30:45,507 To hell with this. 603 00:30:45,509 --> 00:30:47,209 I'm telling you, 604 00:30:47,211 --> 00:30:48,644 they learn to fly a TARDIS, 605 00:30:48,646 --> 00:30:50,612 they think they can rule the world! 606 00:30:52,783 --> 00:30:55,217 So, John, obviously there's an enormous number 607 00:30:55,219 --> 00:30:57,853 of fans here today, and an enormous number of them 608 00:30:57,855 --> 00:30:59,054 are waiting to see you 609 00:30:59,056 --> 00:31:00,456 as Captain Jack. 610 00:31:00,458 --> 00:31:05,027 Now, if we were searching, say, for the ultimate companion, 611 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:08,097 how important is it to find someone who is prepared 612 00:31:08,099 --> 00:31:11,633 to be a companion for the rest of their lives? 613 00:31:11,635 --> 00:31:15,137 It's really important, because the identity that 614 00:31:15,139 --> 00:31:17,573 the fans have through the companion 615 00:31:17,575 --> 00:31:19,174 is their connection to the Doctor, 616 00:31:19,176 --> 00:31:21,276 and the fans, I think, then relate to something 617 00:31:21,278 --> 00:31:25,314 that is within the companion themselves, 618 00:31:25,316 --> 00:31:29,485 so if the companion, whether it is someone 619 00:31:29,487 --> 00:31:31,353 like Sarah Jane or it's a Captain Jack 620 00:31:31,355 --> 00:31:34,056 or a Rose Tyler or a Martha Jones, 621 00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:36,558 all of those -- 622 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,861 all of those characters then connect with 623 00:31:38,863 --> 00:31:41,563 somebody in the audience, but you have to realize 624 00:31:41,565 --> 00:31:43,866 once you are in this -- I call it 625 00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:44,967 the Who family, 626 00:31:44,969 --> 00:31:46,568 you're there for the rest of your life. 627 00:31:46,570 --> 00:31:47,769 It is the longest job. 628 00:31:47,771 --> 00:31:49,938 It is the longest job in show business. 629 00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:52,908 You never leave. But it's the most gratifying, 630 00:31:53,171 --> 00:31:56,640 because once you're in there and the kind of adulation 631 00:31:56,642 --> 00:31:59,709 that you get from the fans, because, you know, 632 00:31:59,711 --> 00:32:01,912 I see young -- I have a little, 633 00:32:01,914 --> 00:32:05,215 like, seven year old boy dressed up as Captain Jack 634 00:32:05,217 --> 00:32:08,151 and his best friend dressed up as, you know, 635 00:32:08,153 --> 00:32:11,855 David as the Doctor, and for me, that's like, 636 00:32:11,857 --> 00:32:13,456 they're just seeing it for the first time, 637 00:32:13,458 --> 00:32:15,025 so it's generations, generations that are 638 00:32:15,027 --> 00:32:17,260 going to continue to watch it, so if you are a companion, 639 00:32:17,262 --> 00:32:18,828 you must take this onboard that you're 640 00:32:18,830 --> 00:32:20,630 going to be there for the rest of your life. 641 00:32:20,632 --> 00:32:24,034 The way it was played and the way it was written 642 00:32:24,036 --> 00:32:27,570 in the script, I guess the way you played it, 643 00:32:27,572 --> 00:32:31,207 was completely open, you know, heart on sleeve, 644 00:32:31,209 --> 00:32:33,543 and that's really the one essential quality 645 00:32:33,545 --> 00:32:36,012 I think a companion has to have if the audience 646 00:32:36,014 --> 00:32:37,180 is to relate to them. 647 00:32:37,182 --> 00:32:39,149 Well, yeah, because they have to -- 648 00:32:39,151 --> 00:32:41,985 like I said, they're the connection to the Doctor, 649 00:32:41,987 --> 00:32:43,753 but for a companion, 650 00:32:43,755 --> 00:32:45,555 if you're going to be a good one, 651 00:32:45,557 --> 00:32:48,425 you've got to allow the Doctor to shine and be the Doctor, 652 00:32:48,427 --> 00:32:50,293 but you've also got to make your mark. 653 00:32:50,295 --> 00:32:52,329 So if you had to distill just one of 654 00:32:52,331 --> 00:32:54,030 the qualities of a companion 655 00:32:54,032 --> 00:32:56,733 that you enjoy playing the most, what would it be? 656 00:32:56,735 --> 00:32:59,402 This is going to -- it might be a weird answer. 657 00:32:59,404 --> 00:33:01,871 Yes, it was being the hero. It was being... 658 00:33:01,873 --> 00:33:05,809 The -- you know, the flirtatious, fun one, 659 00:33:05,811 --> 00:33:07,811 but it was also being 660 00:33:07,813 --> 00:33:10,380 the companion. 661 00:33:10,382 --> 00:33:14,250 And that may be not a description of what you -- 662 00:33:14,252 --> 00:33:17,620 how you can play it, but part of the joy 663 00:33:17,622 --> 00:33:19,789 was being part of his team, 664 00:33:19,791 --> 00:33:21,958 and that to me -- 665 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,160 so if that answers the question, 666 00:33:24,162 --> 00:33:25,462 that's what it was. 667 00:33:25,464 --> 00:33:28,631 Excellent. Finally, I don't suppose it's possible, 668 00:33:28,633 --> 00:33:30,767 is it, to get you to sign this? 669 00:33:30,769 --> 00:33:33,136 Well, I did make you wait for an hour. 670 00:33:33,138 --> 00:33:36,673 I did, and -- I don't have a pen on me. 671 00:33:36,675 --> 00:33:39,676 Anybody have a pen? 672 00:33:39,678 --> 00:33:41,578 I've got a fan here. 673 00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:44,948 Don't worry, I'll... I'll come back tomorrow. 674 00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:47,150 All right. Thanks, Peter. 675 00:33:47,152 --> 00:33:48,418 God love you. 676 00:33:51,822 --> 00:33:55,091 It's always interesting when the doctors like Captain Jack. 677 00:33:55,093 --> 00:33:58,728 So, it's back into the TARDIS and back to the U.K., 678 00:33:58,730 --> 00:34:01,498 where I've got one last stop on my journey. 679 00:34:02,345 --> 00:34:03,345 Let's see if I can 680 00:34:03,346 --> 00:34:04,842 find the man behind the current series 681 00:34:04,843 --> 00:34:06,609 of Doctor Who, Steven Moffat, 682 00:34:06,611 --> 00:34:09,379 to see what he thinks makes the ultimate companion. 683 00:34:11,463 --> 00:34:12,748 Now, when you were young 684 00:34:12,749 --> 00:34:14,582 and you used to watch the program, 685 00:34:14,584 --> 00:34:16,461 did you want to be the Doctor 686 00:34:16,462 --> 00:34:18,295 or did you want to be a companion? 687 00:34:18,297 --> 00:34:21,165 I can only ever remember myself wanting to be a companion. 688 00:34:21,167 --> 00:34:23,167 Oh, you always want to be a companion, 689 00:34:23,169 --> 00:34:24,935 because the Doctor is unknowable, 690 00:34:24,937 --> 00:34:26,970 and you want that TARDIS to materialize 691 00:34:26,972 --> 00:34:29,406 at the end of your road and you to be invited in 692 00:34:29,408 --> 00:34:31,875 and go on an adventure and let the Doctor take on 693 00:34:31,877 --> 00:34:34,478 the heavy work and explain stuff while you get to be 694 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,180 sort of excited and interested. 695 00:34:36,182 --> 00:34:38,415 It never happened. 696 00:34:38,417 --> 00:34:40,517 But I think the show is the closest I've got. 697 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:42,124 But would you have accepted that invitation? 698 00:34:42,125 --> 00:34:44,025 This is why -- I don't think I'd ever be 699 00:34:44,027 --> 00:34:45,192 brave enough to accept it. 700 00:34:45,194 --> 00:34:47,461 We asked people, and this is what we came up with 701 00:34:47,463 --> 00:34:49,797 in terms of a list of the qualities, the attributes, 702 00:34:49,799 --> 00:34:51,699 that maybe the ultimate companion needs. 703 00:34:51,701 --> 00:34:53,968 A sense of adventure, obviously, I guess, 704 00:34:53,970 --> 00:34:56,003 adaptable, suddenly you're on Earth, 705 00:34:56,005 --> 00:34:58,339 next minute you're in some other universe. 706 00:34:58,341 --> 00:34:59,974 Got to appeal to the fans. 707 00:34:59,976 --> 00:35:01,809 Right, yes, yes. 708 00:35:01,811 --> 00:35:04,245 And be unique. 709 00:35:04,247 --> 00:35:07,014 Unique but identical in all the other respects. 710 00:35:07,016 --> 00:35:09,350 You see, the thing that I thought was, 711 00:35:09,352 --> 00:35:12,319 the companion, the same time as maybe being unique, 712 00:35:12,321 --> 00:35:14,388 they are everyman and everywoman. 713 00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:16,857 I mean, they ask the Doctor the questions 714 00:35:16,859 --> 00:35:19,627 that we sitting at home watching the program -- 715 00:35:19,629 --> 00:35:21,262 would want to ask, yeah. 716 00:35:21,264 --> 00:35:23,898 They are. I mean, I think sometimes it's reductive 717 00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:27,101 to say that they're just there to give the viewers' viewpoint. 718 00:35:27,103 --> 00:35:29,703 They're also in a way kind of the main character. 719 00:35:29,705 --> 00:35:32,811 They -- sorry. It's their journey 720 00:35:32,812 --> 00:35:37,047 that you're following, you know, how they're changed 721 00:35:37,048 --> 00:35:38,217 by the experience of the Doctor. 722 00:35:38,218 --> 00:35:41,720 The Doctor, you know, for all the changes he's faced, 723 00:35:41,722 --> 00:35:43,365 he's sort of the same as he ever was, 724 00:35:43,366 --> 00:35:44,966 but the companion goes on a different journey 725 00:35:44,968 --> 00:35:46,801 from being just an ordinary person 726 00:35:46,803 --> 00:35:49,637 sometimes to being a superhero, so it's often their story. 727 00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:53,007 So now we have, of course, a new Doctor coming up, 728 00:35:53,009 --> 00:35:54,909 and a companion who has been 729 00:35:54,911 --> 00:35:57,712 passed from Matt Smith to Peter Capaldi. 730 00:35:57,714 --> 00:36:00,648 How is this going to affect her character? 731 00:36:00,650 --> 00:36:02,617 I think it's rather exciting, actually. 732 00:36:02,619 --> 00:36:04,052 He's very, very different. 733 00:36:04,054 --> 00:36:06,621 We just got to the point with Matt's Doctor and Jenna 734 00:36:06,623 --> 00:36:09,190 that they feel really comfortable, it's a proper unit, 735 00:36:09,192 --> 00:36:11,826 and you sort of feel she's completely in control of it, 736 00:36:11,828 --> 00:36:13,161 which is what Clara likes. 737 00:36:13,163 --> 00:36:15,830 She likes to be completely in control of her puppy Doctor 738 00:36:15,832 --> 00:36:17,599 and she can go off every Wednesday, 739 00:36:17,601 --> 00:36:20,301 have an adventure with him, put him back in the blue box, 740 00:36:20,303 --> 00:36:21,636 go back to work. 741 00:36:21,638 --> 00:36:23,839 She likes that, it's cool, and she tells him what to do. 742 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,608 Along comes the Capaldi Doctor, and suddenly he's sort of 743 00:36:26,610 --> 00:36:28,910 rebooted to a very difficult to control, 744 00:36:28,912 --> 00:36:30,378 slightly unreasonable man, 745 00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:33,681 and she starts to have to be the human interface 746 00:36:33,683 --> 00:36:35,817 between the old Scottish monster 747 00:36:35,819 --> 00:36:38,086 and the humanity he's trying to save. 748 00:36:38,088 --> 00:36:39,721 So a nice challenge for her. 749 00:36:39,723 --> 00:36:41,389 It's been brilliant, yeah. She's so funny in this. 750 00:36:41,391 --> 00:36:43,124 I'm looking forward to it. 751 00:36:43,126 --> 00:36:44,659 Would you like to meet her? 752 00:36:44,661 --> 00:36:46,361 I wouldn't mind. 753 00:36:46,363 --> 00:36:49,430 I'll have a word. 754 00:36:52,372 --> 00:36:54,474 So, with Steven's encouragement, 755 00:36:54,475 --> 00:36:56,809 I'm about to find out from Jenna Coleman 756 00:36:56,811 --> 00:36:59,345 what's in store for Clara in the next series 757 00:36:59,347 --> 00:37:01,347 as a new Doctor enters our lives. 758 00:37:01,349 --> 00:37:05,184 I've been sent on this mission to try and discover 759 00:37:05,186 --> 00:37:06,752 what it takes to be 760 00:37:06,754 --> 00:37:10,856 an ultimate companion, and so before we go on to 761 00:37:10,858 --> 00:37:13,325 actually how you've made Clara a very special companion, 762 00:37:13,327 --> 00:37:14,860 what do you think the essential 763 00:37:14,862 --> 00:37:17,296 qualities are for a Doctor Who companion? 764 00:37:17,298 --> 00:37:20,733 I think ultimately, and kind of going back 765 00:37:20,735 --> 00:37:23,802 to all the companions that I've seen, 766 00:37:23,804 --> 00:37:27,439 is I think one word that I'd use is "spirit," 767 00:37:27,441 --> 00:37:30,209 and, yeah, an adventurous streak, 768 00:37:30,211 --> 00:37:32,311 always to have that kind of 769 00:37:32,313 --> 00:37:35,180 bold, human spirit throughout all of the adventures, 770 00:37:35,182 --> 00:37:37,416 and I think that's the thing in common. 771 00:37:37,418 --> 00:37:39,218 And would you say that's what 772 00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:40,552 you've latched onto most? 773 00:37:40,554 --> 00:37:43,222 'Cause you seem to have a tremendous amount of fun. 774 00:37:43,224 --> 00:37:45,724 Obviously I'm talking now about the last season, 775 00:37:45,726 --> 00:37:48,227 but you seem to have a tremendous amount of fun 776 00:37:48,229 --> 00:37:50,429 in your sort of repartee with the Doctor. 777 00:37:50,431 --> 00:37:52,064 Yeah, it is, isn't it? 778 00:37:52,066 --> 00:37:56,101 I mean, even me as Jenna just coming in to work every day 779 00:37:56,103 --> 00:37:58,904 and getting to go to all those places 780 00:37:58,906 --> 00:38:02,675 and travel it in that way and kind of just adventure, 781 00:38:02,677 --> 00:38:05,844 just to have adventure and just live a life 782 00:38:05,846 --> 00:38:09,214 traveling with Doctor Who as your best friend. 783 00:38:09,216 --> 00:38:12,217 Did you really know what you were getting yourself into 784 00:38:12,219 --> 00:38:13,752 when you became a companion? 785 00:38:13,754 --> 00:38:15,754 Had you watched the series before? 786 00:38:15,756 --> 00:38:17,156 No, I hadn't. Really? 787 00:38:17,158 --> 00:38:19,358 It was off-- I was -- I think I was 18, 788 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,293 19 when the series came back on, 789 00:38:21,295 --> 00:38:23,529 so it was never in my childhood at all, 790 00:38:23,531 --> 00:38:26,865 but it's always something that's kind of in your psyche, 791 00:38:26,867 --> 00:38:29,368 you're always aware of it, you see it -- 792 00:38:29,370 --> 00:38:32,237 it's all over, it's -- I think it's such a part 793 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,472 of British culture. 794 00:38:33,474 --> 00:38:35,498 Was there a sort of BBC handbook 795 00:38:35,499 --> 00:38:37,298 for companions they gave you that you could go, 796 00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:38,733 "I see, that's how I'm meant to be"? 797 00:38:38,735 --> 00:38:40,969 No. I do remember actually going for -- 798 00:38:40,971 --> 00:38:42,904 I remember going into the BBC for 799 00:38:42,906 --> 00:38:45,540 my first audition with Matt, and I just remember 800 00:38:45,542 --> 00:38:48,143 being sat in a canteen and I was eating a salad 801 00:38:48,145 --> 00:38:50,745 and I just looked up and there's literally like 802 00:38:50,747 --> 00:38:52,414 a cardboard cutout of Matt 803 00:38:52,416 --> 00:38:54,949 just like stood like right next to me, 804 00:38:54,951 --> 00:38:57,585 so, you know, you've kind of got an awareness 805 00:38:57,587 --> 00:39:01,810 of, okay, this show is quite unique. 806 00:39:01,811 --> 00:39:03,277 Yes, no, absolutely. 807 00:39:03,279 --> 00:39:05,913 And one of the things that's come up 808 00:39:05,915 --> 00:39:08,750 when we've been talking to people about 809 00:39:08,752 --> 00:39:11,552 the ultimate companion is adaptability. 810 00:39:11,554 --> 00:39:14,622 Now, they gave you possibly the hardest job 811 00:39:14,624 --> 00:39:17,625 that they've given any companion, I think, 812 00:39:17,627 --> 00:39:20,077 because there you were, going along very, very nicely, 813 00:39:20,078 --> 00:39:23,146 with the eleventh Doctor, and then they swapped 814 00:39:23,148 --> 00:39:24,396 doctors on you, and not only that, 815 00:39:24,397 --> 00:39:27,416 they swapped from the youngest Doctor 816 00:39:27,417 --> 00:39:32,553 there has ever been to I believe shall we say most mature Doctor. 817 00:39:32,555 --> 00:39:38,116 How has that affected the way that you play Clara? 818 00:39:38,117 --> 00:39:40,384 I think what has kind of happened is 819 00:39:40,386 --> 00:39:43,321 everything feels like it's kind of been inverted, 820 00:39:43,323 --> 00:39:47,774 and I think with what's -- with going from Matt's Doctor, 821 00:39:47,775 --> 00:39:52,720 to this young, vibrant guy who has kind of 822 00:39:52,721 --> 00:39:55,640 got this old spirit, it feels kind of inverted now, 823 00:39:55,641 --> 00:39:57,755 so we have Peter's Doctor, but he's got this 824 00:39:57,756 --> 00:40:01,023 kind of young, boyish spirit, and in a way, 825 00:40:01,025 --> 00:40:04,927 the relationship has totally -- it's just been totally inverted, 826 00:40:04,929 --> 00:40:07,230 the dynamics have shifted so much. 827 00:40:07,232 --> 00:40:09,232 That must be interesting as an actress 828 00:40:09,234 --> 00:40:10,900 to play that as well, isn't it? 829 00:40:10,902 --> 00:40:13,069 Yeah, and to go along with that kind of -- 830 00:40:13,071 --> 00:40:15,571 of what it does to her, and I think in a way, 831 00:40:15,573 --> 00:40:18,107 it kind of -- it ruffles her -- the new Doctor 832 00:40:18,109 --> 00:40:21,244 ruffles her feathers in a way that the other Doctor didn't, 833 00:40:21,246 --> 00:40:24,347 and I think she finds him a lot harder to control, almost, 834 00:40:24,349 --> 00:40:27,350 and to kind of keep on a leash because he's just this -- 835 00:40:27,352 --> 00:40:30,219 You're the senior partner now, of course, aren't you, 836 00:40:30,221 --> 00:40:32,655 so maybe you have to sort of show him how -- 837 00:40:32,657 --> 00:40:34,991 help him find his feet in the TARDIS. 838 00:40:34,993 --> 00:40:37,994 I suppose so, but it's never really felt like that at all. 839 00:40:37,996 --> 00:40:39,028 I mean, 840 00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:40,863 what advice can you give to Peter Capaldi? 841 00:40:40,865 --> 00:40:42,465 He's just, you know, he's a genius. 842 00:40:42,467 --> 00:40:44,300 I'm particularly excited about it, 843 00:40:44,302 --> 00:40:46,769 because I grew up, you see, with William Hartnell 844 00:40:46,771 --> 00:40:49,338 and Patrick Troughton, so older doctors, 845 00:40:49,340 --> 00:40:51,641 and while I've immensely enjoyed the younger doctors, 846 00:40:51,643 --> 00:40:53,643 and indeed I've always said I started a trend 847 00:40:53,645 --> 00:40:55,378 for younger doctors, but there you go, 848 00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:57,280 I'm quite -- I'm very excited that now 849 00:40:57,282 --> 00:41:00,516 we're having -- almost sort of going back to basics. 850 00:41:00,518 --> 00:41:02,718 He is the Doctor, he -- he has -- 851 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,755 even his physicality -- you'll see so many things, 852 00:41:05,757 --> 00:41:08,691 like one weird thing that I noticed straight away 853 00:41:08,693 --> 00:41:11,160 was his hands, like, he's just got this 854 00:41:11,162 --> 00:41:14,030 doctorish quality to the way he walks and runs, 855 00:41:14,032 --> 00:41:15,064 and... 856 00:41:15,066 --> 00:41:17,467 He is the Doctor. He is, he is, yeah. 857 00:41:17,469 --> 00:41:20,036 Thank you very much. Thank you. 858 00:41:20,038 --> 00:41:23,239 There's just one person left to ask about companions, 859 00:41:23,241 --> 00:41:26,108 the new twelfth Doctor himself, Peter Capaldi. 860 00:41:26,110 --> 00:41:28,811 Now, I've been set on this mission to see if 861 00:41:28,813 --> 00:41:31,547 I can come up with a design for the ultimate 862 00:41:31,549 --> 00:41:34,450 Doctor Who companion, and I just wondered if -- 863 00:41:34,452 --> 00:41:37,286 how you felt that your relationship with Clara 864 00:41:37,288 --> 00:41:40,490 has changed from Matt Smith's relationship with Clara, 865 00:41:40,492 --> 00:41:42,758 has -- is it essentially different? 866 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,628 I think it's changed, yeah, very significantly, 867 00:41:45,630 --> 00:41:48,931 because clearly, you know, although the Doctor 868 00:41:48,933 --> 00:41:51,801 is the same age, he appears much older. 869 00:41:51,803 --> 00:41:55,605 So it just changed the dynamic in a very interesting way. 870 00:41:55,607 --> 00:41:59,075 I think he's crazy about her, 871 00:41:59,077 --> 00:42:03,346 but in a totally sort of innocent way. 872 00:42:03,348 --> 00:42:05,748 What's come up in my conversations with 873 00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:08,184 various people, they've said, you know, 874 00:42:08,186 --> 00:42:11,120 companions, apart from being certainly courageous, 875 00:42:11,122 --> 00:42:13,689 being strong-willed, but they also have to 876 00:42:13,691 --> 00:42:15,892 adapt very well, and it sounds like 877 00:42:15,894 --> 00:42:18,628 you are pushing the limits of that, adapting, 878 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:19,762 for a companion. 879 00:42:19,764 --> 00:42:22,398 Yeah, I think the show's changed quite a lot, 880 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,034 and I think the stories are largely told now 881 00:42:25,036 --> 00:42:27,203 through the eyes of the companion, 882 00:42:27,205 --> 00:42:29,472 which wasn't always the case before, 883 00:42:29,474 --> 00:42:32,074 but they also serve the function in doing it. 884 00:42:32,076 --> 00:42:33,910 A key Doctor Who thing which I've always 885 00:42:33,912 --> 00:42:35,244 loved about Doctor Who was 886 00:42:35,246 --> 00:42:39,282 the ability to balance the sort of banal and domestic 887 00:42:39,284 --> 00:42:48,457 with the epic and exotic and spectacular space monster 888 00:42:48,459 --> 00:42:50,660 kind of orientated kinds of worlds 889 00:42:50,662 --> 00:42:54,263 with the pedestrian precinct with the overflowing litter bin, 890 00:42:54,265 --> 00:42:57,900 so with Clara, she has a very -- 891 00:42:57,902 --> 00:43:02,405 we see a lot of her life, which, you know, 892 00:43:02,407 --> 00:43:05,708 she has -- she's a teacher, I call her at school. 893 00:43:06,677 --> 00:43:09,111 And it's quite a -- you know, it's quite a tough job. 894 00:43:09,113 --> 00:43:11,113 It's a good job and she does it very well, 895 00:43:11,115 --> 00:43:13,983 but we saw her colleagues, we see her students. 896 00:43:13,985 --> 00:43:15,384 You've been running. 897 00:43:15,386 --> 00:43:16,686 Are you okay? 898 00:43:16,688 --> 00:43:20,156 There was a call for you at the office. 899 00:43:20,158 --> 00:43:21,924 From your Doctor. 900 00:43:21,926 --> 00:43:24,460 I think it's one of the great achievements 901 00:43:24,462 --> 00:43:26,562 of the series since it came back 902 00:43:26,564 --> 00:43:30,399 is the companion is a much more exciting part 903 00:43:30,401 --> 00:43:33,369 for someone to play, I think, and you complement 904 00:43:33,371 --> 00:43:36,372 and makes it, you know, for a great relationship. 905 00:43:36,374 --> 00:43:38,107 I think it's very important. 906 00:43:38,109 --> 00:43:41,177 I think it's -- the Doctor without a companion is -- 907 00:43:41,179 --> 00:43:43,913 you know, you maybe get away with one episode 908 00:43:43,915 --> 00:43:46,415 or something like that just as a novelty, 909 00:43:46,417 --> 00:43:49,485 but he needs somebody to ground him 910 00:43:49,487 --> 00:43:52,622 for the audience to see the wonders, 911 00:43:52,624 --> 00:43:55,591 you know, through the companion's eyes. 912 00:43:55,593 --> 00:43:58,394 And there is a little bit of me that likes 913 00:43:58,396 --> 00:44:00,963 hearing Clara shout, "Doctor, Doctor!" 914 00:44:00,965 --> 00:44:03,232 As we run down a corridor. 915 00:44:03,234 --> 00:44:06,202 But I love that about it. 916 00:44:06,204 --> 00:44:07,803 Well, thank you very much indeed for your help. 917 00:44:07,805 --> 00:44:09,372 I'm going to add all those things to my list. 918 00:44:09,374 --> 00:44:11,140 Thanks again. It's been a great pleasure. 919 00:44:11,142 --> 00:44:13,275 It's been a great pleasure to meet you, Doctor. 920 00:44:13,277 --> 00:44:15,177 Thank you, Doctor. Good to meet you at last. 921 00:44:16,399 --> 00:44:18,433 Well, here I am at the end of my journey, 922 00:44:18,435 --> 00:44:20,568 and I think it's safe to say that I now know 923 00:44:20,570 --> 00:44:22,871 more about a companion's life than I did before. 924 00:44:22,873 --> 00:44:24,572 Essentially, they're adventurous, 925 00:44:24,574 --> 00:44:26,775 heroic individuals who adapt to their doctors 926 00:44:26,777 --> 00:44:28,476 and manage to keep them in check. 927 00:44:28,478 --> 00:44:31,346 More importantly, they're our way into the TARDIS, 928 00:44:31,348 --> 00:44:33,615 our way of traveling with the Doctor. 929 00:44:33,617 --> 00:44:35,951 Their journeys are constantly changing, 930 00:44:35,953 --> 00:44:38,620 and as the twelfth Doctor enters Clara's life, 931 00:44:38,622 --> 00:44:40,889 her journey is about to change again, 932 00:44:40,891 --> 00:44:43,124 and our journey with the both of them 933 00:44:43,126 --> 00:44:44,492 is just about to begin. 934 00:44:44,494 --> 00:44:46,594 Is there an ultimate companion? 935 00:44:46,596 --> 00:44:49,898 Well, I don't know, but one thing is certain -- 936 00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:52,901 being a companion is the ultimate position 937 00:44:52,903 --> 00:44:53,622 onboard the TARDIS. 72672

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