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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,450 --> 00:00:14,630 [respirators hissing] 2 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,250 [dramatic music] 3 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,120 [dramatic music continues] 4 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,640 - Acute radiation syndrome. 5 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,960 That's the term the coroner will use on his report. 6 00:01:04,960 --> 00:01:06,160 Just after the bit where he calls this 7 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,440 the most dangerous post-mortem 8 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,240 ever undertaken in the western world. 9 00:01:10,620 --> 00:01:12,650 You'll need a lead coffin is the other thing. 10 00:01:12,650 --> 00:01:13,620 For the radiation. 11 00:01:15,310 --> 00:01:18,000 - So polonium poisoning? 12 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:18,870 - Essentially. 13 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:20,080 Pharyngeal damage, 14 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,490 confirming the fact it was ingested orally. 15 00:01:22,490 --> 00:01:23,910 Liver and kidneys were worse affected, 16 00:01:23,910 --> 00:01:25,840 but all his organs suffered severe atrophy 17 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,090 resulting in an almost total state of internal, you know... 18 00:01:31,190 --> 00:01:32,260 - No. 19 00:01:32,260 --> 00:01:33,090 - Well, 20 00:01:35,850 --> 00:01:36,680 sludge. 21 00:01:39,820 --> 00:01:41,270 - Right. 22 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:42,100 Thank you. 23 00:01:47,790 --> 00:01:49,140 So what did they do it with? 24 00:01:49,140 --> 00:01:51,000 [dramatic music] 25 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,660 - Sorry? 26 00:01:52,660 --> 00:01:54,450 - What did they use to administer it? 27 00:01:55,390 --> 00:01:56,350 Or was it a bottle? 28 00:01:56,350 --> 00:01:58,670 Some sort of food stuff or... 29 00:01:58,670 --> 00:02:00,560 Probably none of our business. 30 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Sorry. 31 00:02:02,460 --> 00:02:04,080 - No, no, it's okay. 32 00:02:07,330 --> 00:02:08,260 It's more than okay. 33 00:02:08,260 --> 00:02:09,120 Thank you. 34 00:02:17,060 --> 00:02:20,550 [Geiger counter clicking] 35 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,520 [speaking foreign language] 36 00:02:56,140 --> 00:02:58,760 - A guilty man would never do that. 37 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,040 - No. 38 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,520 - Not unless he's got a sick mind. 39 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:04,140 - Exactly. 40 00:03:04,140 --> 00:03:05,280 - So, like I said, we're gonna change the locks 41 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,490 and the landline number. 42 00:03:06,490 --> 00:03:07,800 Not because anything to worry about, 43 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,010 it's more just for peace of mind. 44 00:03:09,010 --> 00:03:10,910 - Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. 45 00:03:10,910 --> 00:03:12,290 - And the name of the landlord? 46 00:03:12,290 --> 00:03:15,290 - Boris Berezovsky, he's a friend of the family. 47 00:03:17,570 --> 00:03:20,260 - They can't get to you here. Mrs. Litvinenko. 48 00:03:20,260 --> 00:03:21,820 - He's right. 49 00:03:21,820 --> 00:03:24,720 The people who did it are thousands of miles away. 50 00:03:26,370 --> 00:03:29,240 [horns honking] 51 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,900 - Olly, how long 'til we get to the hotel? 52 00:03:31,900 --> 00:03:35,930 [speaking foreign language] 53 00:03:35,930 --> 00:03:36,760 [phone beeping] 54 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:37,590 - Nearly there. 55 00:03:38,940 --> 00:03:40,490 - Oh, hang on, wrong phone. 56 00:03:47,910 --> 00:03:50,330 Right our contact is Ingrid Campbell. 57 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:52,740 She wants to meet at noon tomorrow. 58 00:03:52,740 --> 00:03:54,570 - Funny place to keep your mobile. 59 00:03:54,570 --> 00:03:56,440 - No, we've all got one. 60 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,160 It's everything on these. 61 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,240 Find two numbers saved in the contacts. 62 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,650 One's mine, the other's each other's. 63 00:04:02,650 --> 00:04:04,000 That's all we'll ever need. 64 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,550 Yeah, Campbell's gonna introduce us 65 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:08,170 to someone from the prosecutor's office. 66 00:04:08,170 --> 00:04:11,350 - And they'll connect us with Lugovoy and Kovtun? 67 00:04:11,350 --> 00:04:12,280 - Maybe. 68 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,830 - Or at least someone who will. 69 00:04:13,830 --> 00:04:15,530 - Maybe, not necessarily. 70 00:04:15,530 --> 00:04:16,770 - Right. 71 00:04:16,770 --> 00:04:17,840 - Well we do know where they are. 72 00:04:19,050 --> 00:04:20,600 Well, how we gonna know they'll talk? 73 00:04:21,570 --> 00:04:22,840 - We don't. 74 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:25,160 - You said the Russians had agreed to cooperate. 75 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:25,980 - They have. 76 00:04:25,980 --> 00:04:26,950 Whatever that means. 77 00:04:29,090 --> 00:04:31,680 Look, we are here in their country 78 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,540 asking for their help to prove 79 00:04:33,540 --> 00:04:36,100 that their people killed someone on our patch. 80 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:38,310 And we've got no guarantees of getting anything. 81 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:41,030 We're here purely and simply because there's a chance. 82 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,350 Okay? 83 00:04:45,250 --> 00:04:48,010 [dramatic music] 84 00:04:52,050 --> 00:04:53,700 - [Jim] Olly was saying they've got all kinds here. 85 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:56,010 They've got Top Shop, Body Shop, they've got M&S. 86 00:04:56,010 --> 00:04:57,460 He's been here before. 87 00:04:57,460 --> 00:04:58,980 - [Tarpey] It's globalization. 88 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:00,810 - Yeah but those are all the things that we've given them. 89 00:05:00,810 --> 00:05:02,060 I mean, you tell me one thing 90 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:03,510 the Russians have put on our high street. 91 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:05,370 - What, apart from polonium you mean? 92 00:05:05,370 --> 00:05:06,990 You know, state sponsored assassination 93 00:05:06,990 --> 00:05:09,300 coming soon to a high street near you. 94 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:11,060 That's proper globalization. 95 00:05:12,130 --> 00:05:15,900 [speaking foreign language] 96 00:05:25,220 --> 00:05:26,040 Hmm. 97 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,130 [phone line crackling] 98 00:05:47,270 --> 00:05:49,900 [phone ringing] 99 00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:50,930 Hello? 100 00:05:50,930 --> 00:05:52,690 - [Jim] My burner's not working. 101 00:05:52,690 --> 00:05:53,520 Nor's Gadney's. 102 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,420 - Nor's mine. 103 00:05:55,420 --> 00:05:56,590 - [Jim] You think it's them? 104 00:05:56,590 --> 00:05:58,350 - Oh, it's probably us. 105 00:05:58,350 --> 00:05:59,870 Us and our shitty phones. 106 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:02,080 - [Jim] I didn't like the look 107 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,570 of that bloke who checked this in. 108 00:06:03,570 --> 00:06:05,330 - Well, the Russian prosecutor knows we're here 109 00:06:05,330 --> 00:06:06,810 but that's it. 110 00:06:06,810 --> 00:06:10,330 Anyone else, this whole trip's totally under the radar. 111 00:06:12,780 --> 00:06:13,640 You get some kip. 112 00:06:20,930 --> 00:06:23,410 - Moscow, MI6, radiation. 113 00:06:23,410 --> 00:06:26,930 Strip it all away and what we've got 114 00:06:26,930 --> 00:06:30,390 is something that everyone in this room 115 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:32,870 has worked on dozens of times before, 116 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:34,910 a murder. 117 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,500 We've got victim, crime scene, we've even got suspects. 118 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:45,570 But what we don't have is a weapon. 119 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:46,680 That's what's missing. 120 00:06:48,090 --> 00:06:51,130 You know we've got Colonel Mustard, the ballroom, 121 00:06:51,130 --> 00:06:53,550 but using what, we don't know. 122 00:06:53,550 --> 00:06:54,890 - Yeah, we do though, don't we? 123 00:06:54,890 --> 00:06:55,820 It's polonium-210. 124 00:06:55,820 --> 00:06:57,100 - No, no, no. 125 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:58,410 You see, hat's what I've been thinking. 126 00:06:58,410 --> 00:07:00,040 But polonium's not the weapon. 127 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,900 Polonium is just the thing that killed him 128 00:07:01,900 --> 00:07:03,420 after they put it in his tea. 129 00:07:03,420 --> 00:07:06,390 - But we can link polonium to Lugovoy and Kovtun 130 00:07:06,390 --> 00:07:07,350 because of the plane. 131 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:09,150 - Yeah, but is that enough? 132 00:07:09,150 --> 00:07:11,740 That plane has been in and out of Russia, 133 00:07:11,740 --> 00:07:14,740 the home of polonium, since this happened. 134 00:07:15,910 --> 00:07:18,090 What's to stop the Russians attributing 135 00:07:18,090 --> 00:07:19,810 polonium we found on the plane 136 00:07:19,810 --> 00:07:21,710 to any other person on that plane 137 00:07:21,710 --> 00:07:23,960 who's come into contact with it? 138 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,920 Look, we all agree that polonium was in the tea. 139 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,480 What we need to do is find the item or items 140 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,170 that the polonium was held in 141 00:07:33,170 --> 00:07:36,040 and we need to link that to these two, 142 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,390 Dmitry Kovtun and, most importantly, Andrey Lugovoy. 143 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:44,910 That way, anything they tell Tarpey and the team in Moscow 144 00:07:44,910 --> 00:07:46,460 can be directly contradicted. 145 00:07:49,190 --> 00:07:50,260 Think of it this way, 146 00:07:51,470 --> 00:07:53,500 if polonium-210 is the bullet, 147 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,160 what we need to find is the gun. 148 00:07:57,470 --> 00:07:59,890 - I want to lead on the weapon search. 149 00:07:59,890 --> 00:08:02,480 Or whatever we're calling it. 150 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,820 You had Tarpey lead on Moscow, 151 00:08:03,820 --> 00:08:05,760 despite him not knowing the case. 152 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,620 I can see how you arrived at that decision, 153 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:09,790 you two go way back and he's trusted and what have you 154 00:08:09,790 --> 00:08:13,250 but I made a personal promise to Marina Litvinenko and- 155 00:08:13,250 --> 00:08:14,070 - Great. 156 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,600 I was gonna ask you anyway, 157 00:08:23,260 --> 00:08:24,190 Martin Svensson. 158 00:08:25,090 --> 00:08:26,360 - [Brent] Who? 159 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,920 - He's the manager of the Millennium Motel. 160 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,510 Give him a ring. 161 00:08:31,710 --> 00:08:34,060 Tell him we're paying him another visit. 162 00:08:34,060 --> 00:08:37,200 [dramatic music] 163 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,860 [speaking foreign language] 164 00:08:48,590 --> 00:08:51,180 [door buzzing] 165 00:09:05,260 --> 00:09:07,850 [door buzzing] 166 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,410 - Ms. Campbell. - You're early. 167 00:09:12,410 --> 00:09:13,690 - Sorry. - No, it's good. 168 00:09:13,690 --> 00:09:15,830 The Russian prosecutor got here an hour ago. 169 00:09:15,830 --> 00:09:17,970 All the usual cliches apply I'm afraid. 170 00:09:17,970 --> 00:09:19,380 If you're early, they're earlier. 171 00:09:19,380 --> 00:09:21,250 If you're on time, they'll keep you waiting. 172 00:09:21,250 --> 00:09:24,730 Your phones don't work but is it them or is it you? 173 00:09:24,730 --> 00:09:25,560 - And. 174 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:26,420 - I'm sorry. 175 00:09:26,420 --> 00:09:27,980 - Which is it? 176 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:29,460 - Them, probably. 177 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:30,880 As my predecessor used to say, 178 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,840 if they'd included mind games in the Moscow Olympics, 179 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,260 they'd have swept the board. 180 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,000 Gentlemen, Nika Privalova from the prosecutor's office. 181 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,760 [speaking foreign language] 182 00:09:54,420 --> 00:09:56,110 - Then let's do it in English. 183 00:09:57,590 --> 00:10:01,490 You want to interview Andrey Lugovoy y Dmitri Kovtun, da? 184 00:10:01,490 --> 00:10:02,700 - That is correct. 185 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:05,570 And we thank you for your help in this. 186 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,780 - You have list of questions? 187 00:10:08,780 --> 00:10:10,330 - Well, there are certain things 188 00:10:10,330 --> 00:10:12,710 we'll be looking to talk to them about, certainly. 189 00:10:12,710 --> 00:10:14,330 - You need list of questions. 190 00:10:14,330 --> 00:10:16,060 You give questions to me. 191 00:10:16,060 --> 00:10:18,300 After this, we arrange. 192 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:20,030 - So you know where they are? 193 00:10:20,030 --> 00:10:21,130 - Yes. 194 00:10:21,130 --> 00:10:23,130 - And we can definitely talk to them? 195 00:10:23,130 --> 00:10:24,790 - Lugovoy, yes, no problem. 196 00:10:25,790 --> 00:10:27,210 - And Kovtun? 197 00:10:27,210 --> 00:10:28,620 - Kovtun 198 00:10:28,620 --> 00:10:29,620 Yes. 199 00:10:30,730 --> 00:10:34,150 But Kovtun, you have to be very fast. 200 00:10:34,150 --> 00:10:36,110 Kovtun is serious. 201 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,630 - How do you mean, serious? 202 00:10:39,630 --> 00:10:42,400 - Kovtun is sick. 203 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,400 From polonium. 204 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:46,260 - Just to be clear, 205 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:50,160 you're saying that Kovtun has also been poisoned? 206 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,680 - Yes. 207 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:54,890 - As in, he's ingested some polonium accidentally? 208 00:10:54,890 --> 00:10:56,690 - No. [dramatic music] 209 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:59,580 Kovtun is a victim of poison. 210 00:10:59,580 --> 00:11:00,410 - By whom? 211 00:11:00,410 --> 00:11:02,240 By Lugovoy? 212 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,830 - No. 213 00:11:03,830 --> 00:11:05,830 By Alexander Litvinenko. 214 00:11:12,770 --> 00:11:15,050 - Number four, describe the reasons 215 00:11:15,050 --> 00:11:16,150 for your meetings with Litvinenko 216 00:11:16,150 --> 00:11:17,670 in October, November this year. 217 00:11:18,780 --> 00:11:19,950 Number five, 218 00:11:19,950 --> 00:11:21,610 can you give an account for your movements 219 00:11:21,610 --> 00:11:23,230 on the afternoon of November 1st? 220 00:11:23,230 --> 00:11:24,400 - All right, that's the one. 221 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,340 That's the one we definitely need to ask. 222 00:11:26,340 --> 00:11:28,270 That's our best chance to trip them up. 223 00:11:28,270 --> 00:11:29,100 - Yeah. 224 00:11:30,750 --> 00:11:34,140 [keypad beeping] 225 00:11:34,140 --> 00:11:36,660 - So the plan is to meet Privalova, 226 00:11:36,660 --> 00:11:38,730 give her the questions and following in convoy 227 00:11:38,730 --> 00:11:40,900 to the hospital to see Dmitri Kovtun. 228 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,530 You need to make a phone call. 229 00:11:45,530 --> 00:11:46,700 - Yeah. 230 00:11:46,700 --> 00:11:48,010 - The one on the right, the red phone. 231 00:11:48,010 --> 00:11:49,080 That's secure. [dramatic music] 232 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,880 - Thank you. 233 00:11:54,710 --> 00:11:56,020 - Nice one, this is huge. 234 00:11:57,710 --> 00:11:59,270 Just remember Tarpey, it's worth nothing 235 00:11:59,270 --> 00:12:00,300 unless it's on tape. 236 00:12:02,540 --> 00:12:04,030 - I know you know. 237 00:12:04,030 --> 00:12:07,310 It's just good to remind ourselves of these things. 238 00:12:09,410 --> 00:12:10,730 Right, good man. 239 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:15,420 Kovtun, they're interviewing him tonight. 240 00:12:16,490 --> 00:12:18,080 Finally we're getting somewhere. 241 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,250 - Certainly sir, if you don't mind waiting. 242 00:12:25,770 --> 00:12:27,780 - Guess they want me to wait in the bar. 243 00:12:31,370 --> 00:12:32,750 - This is the one. 244 00:12:32,750 --> 00:12:34,330 This was the table. 245 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:37,990 - So this was Litvinenko's seat? 246 00:12:37,990 --> 00:12:39,200 - No, this is. 247 00:12:40,380 --> 00:12:41,690 You're in Lugovoy's. 248 00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:44,030 He was sitting where you are. 249 00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:47,210 Confident, relaxed. 250 00:12:47,210 --> 00:12:49,420 Eyes on the door, waiting. 251 00:12:49,420 --> 00:12:51,970 Then I'd have come in, hurried in, 252 00:12:51,970 --> 00:12:53,630 'cause you brought the meeting forward. 253 00:12:53,630 --> 00:12:56,700 Sat down to find the tea already here. 254 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:58,010 Already ordered. 255 00:12:58,010 --> 00:12:59,840 Already getting cold. 256 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,020 - So why drink it? 257 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,610 You knew the risks, you didn't consume anything 258 00:13:04,610 --> 00:13:05,950 you hadn't bought yourself 259 00:13:05,950 --> 00:13:08,780 at your lunch with Scaramella a few hours before. 260 00:13:08,780 --> 00:13:10,470 So why, why, 261 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:13,580 in here, did you drink? 262 00:13:13,580 --> 00:13:15,170 - Cause you're my boss. 263 00:13:15,170 --> 00:13:16,760 - No Lugovoy wasn't Litvinenko's boss. 264 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,660 - Not boss but, you know, superior. 265 00:13:20,930 --> 00:13:22,490 An alpha male. 266 00:13:22,490 --> 00:13:25,800 You exert a certain level of social control over others. 267 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,040 Men your own age. 268 00:13:28,530 --> 00:13:32,950 And when you ask people to do things, they tend to do them. 269 00:13:36,090 --> 00:13:38,300 - Are we still talking about Lugovoy, Brent? 270 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,650 - Can I get you gentlemen a drink? 271 00:13:43,650 --> 00:13:45,370 - No, thank you. - I'll have... 272 00:13:45,370 --> 00:13:49,060 We're actually waiting for someone. 273 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:51,620 In fact, here he is look. 274 00:13:51,620 --> 00:13:54,280 [horn sounding] 275 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:12,850 - [Tarpey] You all right? 276 00:14:12,850 --> 00:14:14,230 - Well if he has been poisoned, he's in the right place. 277 00:14:14,230 --> 00:14:15,470 Hospital No. 6 is where 278 00:14:15,470 --> 00:14:17,370 they treated the victims of Chernobyl. 279 00:14:17,370 --> 00:14:19,200 Oh, she also told me that, under Russian law, 280 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,820 all police interviews must be completed by 10:00 PM. 281 00:14:23,060 --> 00:14:24,550 - Why is that even a rule? 282 00:14:24,550 --> 00:14:26,410 - Get in Tarps. - Fine. 283 00:14:27,860 --> 00:14:29,660 - Can't get through tonight, we'll come back tomorrow. 284 00:14:29,660 --> 00:14:31,560 - Not an option either. 285 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,110 His health's getting worse apparently. 286 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:35,700 They're making it very clear this is a one off. 287 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:37,840 You're lucky to be seeing you at all. 288 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,080 - Come on! 289 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,880 They wanna help or not? 290 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,260 It's nearly seven. 291 00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:44,290 Cutting it a bit fine. 292 00:14:44,290 --> 00:14:45,500 Could you ask him 293 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:46,710 how long it's gonna take to get there please? 294 00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:50,440 [speaking foreign language] 295 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,440 - 20 minutes, apparently. 296 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,170 [speaking foreign language] 297 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,100 - What? 298 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:03,100 What does that mean? 299 00:15:06,310 --> 00:15:09,010 - Every guest has one glass and one cup in their room 300 00:15:09,010 --> 00:15:11,800 to make tea or coffee or whatever they like. 301 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,530 - And these are the same cups and glasses 302 00:15:13,530 --> 00:15:14,910 you use in the restaurant? 303 00:15:14,910 --> 00:15:17,330 - Same as restaurant, same as Pine Bar. 304 00:15:18,670 --> 00:15:20,160 - So, how many are we talking? 305 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,750 - And these are just a clean ones? 306 00:15:30,750 --> 00:15:32,410 Well, you asked for it Brent. 307 00:15:34,170 --> 00:15:35,100 Let's get cracking. 308 00:15:42,940 --> 00:15:43,830 - It's taking forever. 309 00:15:43,830 --> 00:15:46,150 This is a joke. 310 00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:47,420 20 minutes? 311 00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:49,500 It's been two hours! 312 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:52,770 [speaking foreign language] 313 00:15:52,770 --> 00:15:53,810 - It's just up ahead. 314 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,950 Okay, listen. 315 00:15:56,950 --> 00:15:58,500 Obviously they're running the clock out on us 316 00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:01,090 so, when we get in there, we're not gonna ask any questions, 317 00:16:01,090 --> 00:16:03,060 we're not gonna complain about delays. 318 00:16:03,060 --> 00:16:05,170 That'll only cause more delays. 319 00:16:05,170 --> 00:16:08,130 So we just do as we're told and we get on with it. 320 00:16:08,130 --> 00:16:09,310 - Apparently the hospital 321 00:16:09,310 --> 00:16:11,280 are providing hazmat suits for you. 322 00:16:12,310 --> 00:16:13,140 - Okay. 323 00:16:16,110 --> 00:16:18,140 - I thought this was supposed to be under the radar. 324 00:16:18,140 --> 00:16:19,040 [indistinct shouting] 325 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,420 Ignore them. 326 00:16:20,420 --> 00:16:22,460 Let's push past the bullshit 327 00:16:22,460 --> 00:16:23,460 and get this done. 328 00:16:25,290 --> 00:16:30,290 [speaking foreign language] [dramatic music] 329 00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:47,690 - Here. 330 00:16:47,690 --> 00:16:48,520 You change. 331 00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:52,040 But please, keep these outside. 332 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,730 - We need to record the interview. 333 00:16:53,730 --> 00:16:56,220 - We will record, it's all prepared. 334 00:16:56,220 --> 00:16:57,150 - Okay. 335 00:16:57,150 --> 00:16:58,430 Then, after it's finished, 336 00:16:58,430 --> 00:16:59,360 we're gonna need a copy of the tape. 337 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:00,290 - [Privalova] No problem. 338 00:17:00,290 --> 00:17:01,330 - I need your guarantee on that. 339 00:17:01,330 --> 00:17:02,780 - No problem. 340 00:17:02,780 --> 00:17:05,950 But please, only two persons inside the interview. 341 00:17:05,950 --> 00:17:06,880 - Two. 342 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,090 - [Privalova] Two, it's a rule. 343 00:17:08,090 --> 00:17:09,060 - Whose rule, whose rule is that now? 344 00:17:09,060 --> 00:17:10,020 - Tarps. 345 00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:11,780 Remember what you said. 346 00:17:11,780 --> 00:17:12,610 - Okay. 347 00:17:12,610 --> 00:17:13,860 Then, in that case, 348 00:17:13,860 --> 00:17:16,030 it will be DC Oliver Gadney for his Russian 349 00:17:16,030 --> 00:17:19,340 and myself, DI Brian Tarpey. 350 00:17:19,340 --> 00:17:20,170 Thank you. 351 00:17:26,250 --> 00:17:27,940 Fast as we can boys. 352 00:17:39,670 --> 00:17:42,920 [indistinct muttering] 353 00:17:47,790 --> 00:17:48,790 - [Jim] Questions. 354 00:17:48,790 --> 00:17:49,890 - Thanks. 355 00:17:49,890 --> 00:17:52,070 Right, let's get in there. 356 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,720 - Gentlemen, this is Dmitry Kovtun. 357 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:36,560 This is Dmitri Kovtun? 358 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,150 - This is Dmitri Kovtun. 359 00:18:40,940 --> 00:18:42,120 - [Olly] Okay. 360 00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:48,190 [speaking foreign language] 361 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,370 - If it was green tea, 362 00:18:55,370 --> 00:18:59,820 we can rule out the espresso cups and the milk jugs. 363 00:18:59,820 --> 00:19:02,070 And the sugar bowls and the sauce are unlikely 364 00:19:02,070 --> 00:19:05,930 to have had any direct contact with any liquid, right? 365 00:19:05,930 --> 00:19:07,140 So what does that leave? 366 00:19:08,730 --> 00:19:11,040 - Tea pots, cups? 367 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,530 - Does this mean we must stop using these items? 368 00:19:13,530 --> 00:19:14,910 - It would be wise. 369 00:19:14,910 --> 00:19:17,250 - But we have been using them all this time. 370 00:19:17,250 --> 00:19:18,840 - He's got a point. 371 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,260 The poisoning took place when? 372 00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:21,570 November 1st? 373 00:19:21,570 --> 00:19:23,330 And what's the date today? 374 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:25,160 - December 5th. 375 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,130 - So during all that time, this stuff's been in constant use 376 00:19:28,130 --> 00:19:30,540 and every time a cup gets used, it gets washed? 377 00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:33,790 So, even if that's once a day, 378 00:19:33,790 --> 00:19:35,380 they'll still all have been put through 379 00:19:35,380 --> 00:19:37,930 an industrial strength dishwasher 380 00:19:37,930 --> 00:19:40,310 over 30 times since the poisoning took place. 381 00:19:42,140 --> 00:19:44,970 And nobody who has drunk from any of these cups 382 00:19:44,970 --> 00:19:46,870 has suffered any ill effects? 383 00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:48,390 - That we know of. 384 00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:49,980 - I'm thinking the chances of us 385 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:52,810 getting any kind of reading here are, 386 00:19:52,810 --> 00:19:55,360 well, ludicrously small. 387 00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:58,640 Feels like a waste of time. 388 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,470 I'm sorry. 389 00:20:01,130 --> 00:20:04,780 [speaking foreign language] 390 00:21:10,750 --> 00:21:13,130 - [Jim] What a total waste of time. 391 00:21:13,130 --> 00:21:15,230 - It's the bandages I don't get. 392 00:21:15,230 --> 00:21:16,370 - What the hell have bandages 393 00:21:16,370 --> 00:21:17,890 got to do with polonium poisoning? 394 00:21:17,890 --> 00:21:19,380 - Well, Privalova says she'll get us the tapes. 395 00:21:19,380 --> 00:21:22,280 She gave me her word, whatever that means. 396 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,590 Says she'll keep us up to date on Lugovoy. 397 00:21:24,590 --> 00:21:26,630 - Oh, who's playing him, Al Pacino? 398 00:21:28,870 --> 00:21:30,660 Lugovoy's the important one. 399 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,110 He's the killer. 400 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:34,360 I mean there. 401 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:37,600 Physically there, at the table, making it happen. 402 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,400 If we can get him, and I mean the real him, 403 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,300 we get a statement, they can't stop us using it. 404 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:44,780 For all their f-ing about 405 00:21:44,780 --> 00:21:46,510 they can't stop us doing that and using it against him. 406 00:21:46,510 --> 00:21:47,300 They just can't. 407 00:21:53,170 --> 00:21:55,170 [Tarpey groaning] [dramatic music] 408 00:21:55,170 --> 00:21:56,690 - You alright mate? 409 00:21:56,690 --> 00:21:58,000 - What you want? 410 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,730 You want a beer or a water or something? 411 00:22:00,730 --> 00:22:01,660 - I'm fine. 412 00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:04,660 You guys carry on. 413 00:22:04,660 --> 00:22:05,490 I'll... 414 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,490 Just get hold of Clive. 415 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:12,430 All right mate, sleep well. 416 00:22:48,150 --> 00:22:51,090 [Tarpey vomiting] 417 00:22:54,890 --> 00:22:56,440 - [Radio] We'll be examining the impact 418 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,100 of Mr. Litvinenko's death on relations with Russia. 419 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,060 Britain's former ambassador to Moscow 420 00:23:01,060 --> 00:23:02,760 tells us the political relationship 421 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,590 between Russia and the West is at its lowest point 422 00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:07,660 since the collapse of the Soviet Union. 423 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,660 - Can you leave that? 424 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:13,870 - It's a table, it's not a desk. 425 00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:15,490 Last time I checked. 426 00:23:15,490 --> 00:23:17,010 - I work from home Brent. 427 00:23:17,010 --> 00:23:17,840 - I know. 428 00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:20,980 - We don't have an office. 429 00:23:20,980 --> 00:23:23,810 - No we don't, we could. 430 00:23:23,810 --> 00:23:25,230 - That's the nursery. 431 00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:28,990 - Yeah but it's not a nursery is it? 432 00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:31,130 - We said while there's a chance it might be, 433 00:23:31,130 --> 00:23:35,030 even if it's only a tiny chance, we should wait. 434 00:23:35,030 --> 00:23:36,100 - Yes, while- 435 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:37,830 - As long as it takes. 436 00:23:38,690 --> 00:23:40,280 That's what we said. 437 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,620 You promised. 438 00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:43,240 - [TV] Absolutely, yes. 439 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,730 But I mean as President Putin himself said yesterday, 440 00:23:45,730 --> 00:23:47,420 so far, there isn't any... 441 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,150 - Everything all right? 442 00:23:55,150 --> 00:23:57,330 - I've been trying to get a hold of Brian. 443 00:23:57,330 --> 00:24:00,360 [phone line beeping] 444 00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:06,410 - Just give me a sec. 445 00:24:06,410 --> 00:24:09,170 [dramatic music] 446 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,320 [knocking] 447 00:24:27,390 --> 00:24:28,630 Tarps! 448 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:32,470 Tarps, it's me mate, it's time to get up. 449 00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:46,690 All right? 450 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,760 - [Ingrid] It won't be polonium. 451 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,210 - [Tarpey] Yeah, you still think it was deliberate. 452 00:24:52,210 --> 00:24:53,420 - If it was, it's just their way 453 00:24:53,420 --> 00:24:55,010 of putting the shits up you. 454 00:24:55,010 --> 00:24:58,980 - Well, without oversharing, it did the direct opposite. 455 00:24:58,980 --> 00:24:59,800 I can tell you. 456 00:25:00,910 --> 00:25:01,810 Thank you. 457 00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:09,090 Anyway, why were you at the hotel in the first place? 458 00:25:09,090 --> 00:25:10,370 - I couldn't reach you by phone. 459 00:25:10,370 --> 00:25:11,510 - Why were you trying to ring me? 460 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:12,990 - Because Privalova's contacted me. 461 00:25:12,990 --> 00:25:14,580 She's been in touch with Lugovoy. 462 00:25:14,580 --> 00:25:15,850 - And? 463 00:25:15,850 --> 00:25:17,100 - [Ingrid] He'll see you later on today. 464 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:18,820 Apparently he's very keen to help. 465 00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:21,650 [dramatic music] 466 00:25:23,210 --> 00:25:24,140 - I've gotta get back to the hotel, 467 00:25:24,140 --> 00:25:26,310 start prepping the questions. 468 00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:28,800 First, I need to use the red phone. 469 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,290 [phone ringing] 470 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:39,290 - Timmons. 471 00:25:39,290 --> 00:25:40,530 - We've got him, Lugovoy. 472 00:25:40,530 --> 00:25:41,980 He's talking to us five, our time. 473 00:25:41,980 --> 00:25:43,570 The interview with Kovtum was a complete farce. 474 00:25:43,570 --> 00:25:45,230 He turned up covered in bandages. 475 00:25:45,230 --> 00:25:46,260 I'm not sure it was even him. 476 00:25:46,260 --> 00:25:47,440 - How's this any different? 477 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,710 - He's asked to speak to us. 478 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:49,720 - Oh right. 479 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,550 Well, you know what to do. 480 00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:52,930 Get down there and get him 481 00:25:52,930 --> 00:25:54,650 on everything that happened that day. 482 00:25:54,650 --> 00:25:55,620 And what else? 483 00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:56,520 - Get it all on tape. 484 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,280 - Get it all on tape. 485 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,070 Exactly. 486 00:25:59,070 --> 00:25:59,900 - On it guv. 487 00:26:09,390 --> 00:26:10,560 - It's about to go public 488 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,120 that we're treating this as a murder inquiry. 489 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:14,190 - But we're not. 490 00:26:14,190 --> 00:26:15,570 - Internally we have been. 491 00:26:15,570 --> 00:26:17,540 - Yeah, but externally we're not. 492 00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:18,810 We made sure not to do that 493 00:26:18,810 --> 00:26:20,920 because it would damage our chances in Moscow. 494 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,200 - I know. 495 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,200 - We're asking for their help, Peter. 496 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,030 We're not accusing them, well, not officially. 497 00:26:26,030 --> 00:26:27,410 - Clive, I know. 498 00:26:27,410 --> 00:26:30,410 - My lot are about to question Lugovoy 499 00:26:30,410 --> 00:26:32,520 without knowing the rest of the world 500 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,760 thinks they're there under false pretenses. 501 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,000 I mean, who announced this? 502 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,420 - [Peter] Nobody, it's a leak. 503 00:26:37,420 --> 00:26:38,590 - From who? 504 00:26:38,590 --> 00:26:40,350 Not everyone wants us doing this. 505 00:26:40,350 --> 00:26:41,180 - Like who? 506 00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:42,670 - Does it matter? 507 00:26:42,670 --> 00:26:44,390 The fact is it's going out on the news this afternoon. 508 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:45,560 - Is it? 509 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,980 How do you know? 510 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:48,840 - Because ITN just called me for confirmation. 511 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,670 - Friggin... 512 00:26:56,820 --> 00:26:59,510 [phone ringing] 513 00:27:11,490 --> 00:27:14,490 [phoneline beeping] 514 00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:17,870 Tarpey's burner number. 515 00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:18,840 - Burners are broken. 516 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,360 - What a... 517 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:23,330 I need the number of the Hotel Belorusskaya Duncan. 518 00:27:23,330 --> 00:27:24,850 Give me a minute. 519 00:27:24,850 --> 00:27:26,880 - The last email I sent you, the hotel number's on there. 520 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,710 - Right. 521 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,570 - [Tarpey] Sorry. 522 00:27:32,610 --> 00:27:34,960 - Feeling better? - Yeah. 523 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,440 Lugovoy, 524 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,270 he's on. 525 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,210 - We think they've got Lugovoy but 526 00:27:47,210 --> 00:27:49,900 only if the media don't screw it up. 527 00:27:52,530 --> 00:27:54,430 [phone ringing] 528 00:27:54,430 --> 00:27:55,670 [speaking foreign language] 529 00:27:55,670 --> 00:27:57,880 - Yeah, Brian Tarpey please, room 614. 530 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,640 Failing that, Jim Dawson or... 531 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,740 Gadney? - Oliver Gadney. 532 00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:02,680 - Oliver Gadney. 533 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,090 - I'm sorry. 534 00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:05,330 I'm afraid none of those guests are currently with us. 535 00:28:05,330 --> 00:28:06,820 Is there anything else I can help you with? 536 00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:07,990 - No, no. 537 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:08,790 Thank you. 538 00:28:16,030 --> 00:28:17,620 - Have you got a minute? 539 00:28:17,620 --> 00:28:18,420 - You know what? 540 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:21,970 Suddenly I do. 541 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,670 - "The chances of us finding our weapon 542 00:28:27,670 --> 00:28:31,530 or getting any kind of a reading are ludicrously small." 543 00:28:31,530 --> 00:28:34,670 That's the phrase the woman from the HPA used. 544 00:28:34,670 --> 00:28:37,610 Then I was thinking, ludicrously small, 545 00:28:37,610 --> 00:28:39,090 it's not zero, is it? 546 00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:44,440 And sometimes, sometimes in life, 547 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,720 just because the chances of a positive outcome are small 548 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,450 or take time does not mean it's not worth trying, does it? 549 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,450 - Okay. 550 00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:59,220 But let's have them start with the teapots. 551 00:28:59,220 --> 00:29:02,870 The green tea was served in a pot, that's what he told you. 552 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:05,080 And there ain't as many of those. 553 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,360 - Guv, it's starting. 554 00:29:13,540 --> 00:29:15,090 - [TV] At around noon today, 555 00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:18,480 the Taliban in Southern Helmand province. 556 00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:22,890 - Now, it was being treated as a suspicious death. 557 00:29:22,890 --> 00:29:25,790 But in the last half hour, Scotland Yard have confirmed 558 00:29:25,790 --> 00:29:27,280 that they are now treating the poisoning 559 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,250 of Alexander Litvinenko as murder. 560 00:29:29,250 --> 00:29:30,900 - There you go, you see 561 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,770 Russians ain't gonna like that. 562 00:29:33,770 --> 00:29:35,980 Brent, dind me that teapot. 563 00:29:39,910 --> 00:29:42,120 - The interview is off. - Off? 564 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,050 What do you mean off? 565 00:29:43,050 --> 00:29:44,950 - You said, "Unexplained death." 566 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:45,950 - It is unexplained. 567 00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:47,570 - Now you're saying murder. 568 00:29:47,570 --> 00:29:48,850 - We're not calling it that. 569 00:29:48,850 --> 00:29:50,400 - Yes, you. 570 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,850 British government. 571 00:29:51,850 --> 00:29:53,930 - Even if we did think that, it makes no difference. 572 00:29:53,930 --> 00:29:55,200 Not to Lugovoy. 573 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,240 - Mr. Lugovoy does not do interview. 574 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,520 - Mr. Lugovoy denies murder, yeah? 575 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,690 - Of course. 576 00:30:01,690 --> 00:30:03,660 - Mr. Lugovoy is friend of Litvinenko? 577 00:30:03,660 --> 00:30:04,760 - Yes. 578 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,940 - Then what difference does it make 579 00:30:05,940 --> 00:30:06,770 what the British government calls it? 580 00:30:06,770 --> 00:30:07,800 What anyone calls it? 581 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,970 He can tell us what happened. 582 00:30:08,970 --> 00:30:10,800 He can set us straight. 583 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,430 Or has he got something to hide? 584 00:30:16,530 --> 00:30:19,330 - Okay, you get changed. 585 00:30:19,330 --> 00:30:20,680 And wait. 586 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,400 And please, two people only. 587 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,090 - No, this time I need three. 588 00:30:25,090 --> 00:30:27,920 - If police wants to talk to the patient, two only. 589 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:28,890 - We didn't ask him. 590 00:30:28,890 --> 00:30:30,960 - It is a rule. - He asked us. 591 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,910 We're gonna need a copy of that tape. 592 00:30:45,940 --> 00:30:47,250 - You will have. 593 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,470 [speaking foreign language] 594 00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:14,550 - He recalls little about the meeting. 595 00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:17,480 Not very memorable. 596 00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:22,140 - That's not true is it Mr. Lugovoy? 597 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,320 - I mean, this is the meeting 598 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,080 where you were poisoned by Alexander Litvinenko. 599 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,840 [speaking foreign language] 600 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,630 - You arranged the meeting. 601 00:32:31,630 --> 00:32:33,910 [speaking foreign language] 602 00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:35,910 - You ordered tea in advance. 603 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:37,640 [speaking foreign language] 604 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,920 - He sat down, he drank it. 605 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,510 [speaking foreign language] 606 00:32:42,510 --> 00:32:46,610 - Yet, somehow, he's the one who's ended up poisoning you. 607 00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:50,830 And with the most lethal substance known to man. 608 00:32:50,830 --> 00:32:54,830 [speaking foreign language] 609 00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:57,140 - [Tarpey] A substance only available in Russia. 610 00:32:57,140 --> 00:33:01,040 [speaking foreign language] 611 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,980 - Where he hadn't been for six years. 612 00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:04,940 [speaking foreign language] 613 00:33:04,940 --> 00:33:06,630 - I mean, I could think of more 614 00:33:09,530 --> 00:33:11,430 forgettable encounters. 615 00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:15,200 [speaking foreign language] 616 00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:09,590 - [Olly] He maintains it came from Sasha. 617 00:34:09,590 --> 00:34:12,150 That Sasha requested the meeting, 618 00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:14,980 that polonium does nothing to him. 619 00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:17,980 [speaking foreign language] 620 00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:19,190 - [Olly] Next question. 621 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,160 - You could ask him why it's taken a month 622 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,570 for polonium to take effect. 623 00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:43,560 - Here's a question, 624 00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:46,390 why, if he's gonna be like this, 625 00:34:46,390 --> 00:34:48,700 did he ask to meet with us in the first place? 626 00:34:50,050 --> 00:34:52,360 - I came here because I wanted to wish you 627 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,020 good luck with your inquiry. 628 00:34:59,580 --> 00:35:03,610 Trust me, Brian, you're going to need it. 629 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:13,210 - [Tarpey] That's one lie after another. 630 00:35:13,210 --> 00:35:14,830 - He didn't deny buying the tea. 631 00:35:14,830 --> 00:35:16,350 That's another thing. 632 00:35:16,350 --> 00:35:18,350 I mean, you know, he pretty much denied everything else. 633 00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:19,840 - And he also got a time wrong. 634 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,460 He said they got back to the hotel at four. 635 00:35:21,460 --> 00:35:22,630 - [Jim] When it was off past three. 636 00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:23,910 - And those were the 30 minutes 637 00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:25,330 they used to get the polonium ready. 638 00:35:25,330 --> 00:35:27,330 - Yep, old Lugovoy's really put his foot in it. 639 00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:28,850 - Privalova's got the tapes. 640 00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:33,260 They've also done transcripts, you can have those today. 641 00:35:33,260 --> 00:35:34,680 - The catch being... 642 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,750 - No catch. 643 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:37,230 Just one stipulation. 644 00:35:37,230 --> 00:35:39,300 They want you to collect them from their officers, 645 00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:40,410 hand them over officially and mark 646 00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:41,620 the end of the visit and so on. 647 00:35:41,620 --> 00:35:42,580 Which I thought sounded reasonable. 648 00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:45,140 So, if we're open to that chaps, 649 00:35:45,140 --> 00:35:47,380 you could be on a plane home early evening. 650 00:35:51,630 --> 00:35:54,350 [dramatic music] 651 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,600 [speaking foreign language] 652 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,180 - Just keep moving. 653 00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:38,290 [speaking foreign language] 654 00:36:38,290 --> 00:36:42,370 - You ever get the feeling you're being followed? 655 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:55,310 - On behalf of the Prosecutor General 656 00:36:55,310 --> 00:36:56,830 of the Russian Federation, 657 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,490 tapes of your conversation, 658 00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:11,910 transcripts from your conversation. 659 00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:20,200 Is there anything more we can do to assist your inquiry? 660 00:37:22,060 --> 00:37:22,860 - No. 661 00:37:33,350 --> 00:37:34,250 - Thank you gents. 662 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,250 - Look. 663 00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:40,980 The photographers, every last one of them have gone. 664 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,570 - They wanted it all on record 665 00:37:44,570 --> 00:37:46,050 how helpful they've all been. 666 00:37:47,710 --> 00:37:50,540 [dramatic music] 667 00:37:55,130 --> 00:37:56,370 - What's goodbye again? 668 00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:59,170 [speaking foreign language] 669 00:37:59,170 --> 00:38:00,480 - Yeah 670 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,490 that. 671 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:30,720 - [Tippon] Well, welcome back fellas. 672 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,200 - So who do you want first, Kovtun or Lugovoy? 673 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,140 - Well, according to you, Kovtun wasn't even Kovtun. 674 00:38:35,140 --> 00:38:36,860 So let's have Lugovoy. 675 00:38:36,860 --> 00:38:38,310 - Yeah. 676 00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:39,970 Claimed he'd been poisoned then strolls in there 677 00:38:39,970 --> 00:38:42,520 like he'd just been watching the Monaco grand prix. 678 00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:47,460 - Okay. 679 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:52,640 - Press play. 680 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,120 - It's playing. - Oh. 681 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,290 [silence] 682 00:39:00,020 --> 00:39:02,650 [chuckling] 683 00:39:02,650 --> 00:39:05,340 - There's always a bit of blank, start of the tape. 684 00:39:05,340 --> 00:39:06,550 - [Tippon] Oh is there? 685 00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:08,060 - Usually yeah, before it... 686 00:39:08,060 --> 00:39:09,130 - Right. - You know? 687 00:39:22,910 --> 00:39:23,840 - How much blank we talking? 688 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,570 - Try forwarding it a bit. 689 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,060 [silence] 690 00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:56,180 It's... 691 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,150 Excuse me. 692 00:40:11,710 --> 00:40:13,540 - At least we have the transcript. 693 00:40:13,540 --> 00:40:14,820 - Yeah, it means nothing. 694 00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:19,070 You could have written it for all anyone knows. 695 00:40:27,250 --> 00:40:30,660 Listen, you did what I asked. 696 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:34,740 You went there, you got the interviews, 697 00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:37,050 you got the tapes like I asked you. 698 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,600 And think of it this way, 699 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,640 that blank tape proves they're guilty. 700 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,230 Proves we're on the right track. 701 00:40:45,610 --> 00:40:47,160 Otherwise why would they do it? 702 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,620 - Yeah. - Now you go home. 703 00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:52,100 Get yourself some rest mate. 704 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:52,860 Alight? 705 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,730 [dramatic music] - Yeah. 706 00:40:56,730 --> 00:40:57,520 Thanks. 707 00:42:16,250 --> 00:42:19,080 [thunder rolling] 708 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,300 [bells tolling] 709 00:43:12,070 --> 00:43:13,830 - You went to Moscow. 710 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,690 - We went. 711 00:43:15,690 --> 00:43:18,180 It was a productive trip. 712 00:43:19,830 --> 00:43:22,110 We all now agree who's responsible. 713 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,120 I wish I had better news. 714 00:43:33,230 --> 00:43:34,400 - Do you know this man? 715 00:43:35,610 --> 00:43:37,230 Boris Berezovsky. 716 00:43:37,230 --> 00:43:40,270 He turned his back on Russia. 717 00:43:42,130 --> 00:43:43,130 He helped Sasha. 718 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,690 He help Anatoly and me. 719 00:43:47,930 --> 00:43:49,210 Today he tell me, 720 00:43:50,310 --> 00:43:54,830 "Marina, they murder your husband. 721 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,430 They call you, they try to frighten you. 722 00:44:00,430 --> 00:44:01,560 They go back to Russia. 723 00:44:02,570 --> 00:44:03,810 They're never coming back. 724 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,330 To get justice, it is almost impossible. 725 00:44:11,260 --> 00:44:16,100 Maybe it's time to join your country. 726 00:44:18,820 --> 00:44:23,350 Sasha give you and your wife a better life. 727 00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:26,420 Go forward and enjoy, for Sasha." 728 00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:30,040 [dramatic music] 729 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,670 - And what did you say to that? 730 00:44:38,290 --> 00:44:39,880 - I think about it. 731 00:44:41,050 --> 00:44:41,880 Of course. 732 00:44:45,820 --> 00:44:47,160 I think about it 733 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,130 and then I say, "No, 734 00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:55,930 we keep fighting. 735 00:44:59,550 --> 00:45:03,490 There is chance, even tiny chance. 736 00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:07,800 This is what we do for Sasha." 737 00:45:32,210 --> 00:45:35,040 [machine beeping] 738 00:45:48,050 --> 00:45:50,810 [dramatic music] 739 00:46:18,770 --> 00:46:21,460 [gentle music] 51014

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