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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,309 --> 00:00:19,649 You know, I meet a lot of young groups and I say, 2 00:00:19,650 --> 00:00:22,305 "I can't read music or write it." 3 00:00:22,314 --> 00:00:24,190 They go, "What?" 4 00:00:24,191 --> 00:00:27,861 And it's like... "Well, that doesn't work. 5 00:00:28,278 --> 00:00:31,738 Well, if you've done this, how could you do it without..." 6 00:00:31,740 --> 00:00:34,870 But it means that it's here. It's not on a bit of paper. 7 00:00:35,244 --> 00:00:38,955 Playing upbeat music 8 00:00:54,012 --> 00:00:55,891 I tell kids who want to learn the piano, 9 00:00:55,892 --> 00:00:58,429 I say, "Okay, here's you go. Start with middle C." 10 00:00:58,433 --> 00:00:59,809 We all know that. 11 00:00:59,810 --> 00:01:01,519 It's the first thing in a piano lesson. 12 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,230 And then think about like the Eddie Cochran thing. 13 00:01:04,231 --> 00:01:08,691 Playing music notes 14 00:01:08,694 --> 00:01:11,988 I say, "Well, that's... that's a chord, if you play those together." 15 00:01:11,989 --> 00:01:12,909 plays chord on piano 16 00:01:12,910 --> 00:01:16,156 "And you just got that, remember this and that. 17 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:20,209 So you do that. One space. Finger. One space. Finger." 18 00:01:20,581 --> 00:01:24,375 So there you've got the chord. I say, you know, "We started there." 19 00:01:24,376 --> 00:01:25,206 Mm‐hmm. 20 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:29,755 ‐ And so, you could kind of write a song... with that. 21 00:01:29,756 --> 00:01:31,926 ‐ Yeah. Yeah. ‐ But if you just move this up one, 22 00:01:31,927 --> 00:01:33,505 plays higher music chord 23 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:35,050 it's the same shape. ‐ Yeah. 24 00:01:35,053 --> 00:01:36,391 ‐ You've got another chord. ‐ Yeah. 25 00:01:36,392 --> 00:01:37,558 ‐ Now you've got two chords. 26 00:01:37,559 --> 00:01:39,306 Playing musical chords 27 00:01:39,308 --> 00:01:41,434 Move it up again, you got three chords. 28 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:42,015 Yeah. 29 00:01:42,019 --> 00:01:43,769 And move it up again, you got four chords. 30 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:45,899 - Yeah. Yeah. - And then again, you got five. 31 00:01:45,900 --> 00:01:47,315 And then now you've got six. 32 00:01:47,316 --> 00:01:49,025 Well, you don't need more than that. ‐ Yeah. 33 00:01:49,026 --> 00:01:51,856 ‐ So you can now put permutations of that... 34 00:01:51,862 --> 00:01:54,112 ‐ Yeah. ‐ and you get songs, you know, like... 35 00:01:59,286 --> 00:01:59,946 Yeah. 36 00:02:09,046 --> 00:02:11,296 ‐ Oh oh oh 37 00:02:11,298 --> 00:02:13,048 Baby baby yeah 38 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:16,969 But it's that same little shape. 39 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:18,010 ‐ Yeah. 40 00:02:18,013 --> 00:02:21,353 ‐ But that shape is a marvelous shape 41 00:02:22,226 --> 00:02:25,846 You can do anything with that shape 42 00:02:29,608 --> 00:02:30,278 You know? 43 00:02:30,279 --> 00:02:32,065 Did your dad teach you that shape? 44 00:02:32,069 --> 00:02:33,399 ‐ No, we figured that out from... 45 00:02:34,780 --> 00:02:35,780 ‐ Yeah. 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,574 ‐ We had to know this to do Jerry Lee Lewis. 47 00:02:38,575 --> 00:02:39,275 ‐ Yeah. 48 00:02:39,284 --> 00:02:42,286 ‐ Oh, baby, a whole lotta shakin' goin' on 49 00:02:42,287 --> 00:02:43,287 Yeah. 50 00:02:46,083 --> 00:02:49,544 ‐ So once you figure that... 51 00:02:49,545 --> 00:02:52,375 playing chords 52 00:02:52,381 --> 00:02:55,466 So it really gets super fascinating, I think. 53 00:02:55,467 --> 00:02:56,837 ‐ Absolutely. ‐ You know, you, 54 00:02:56,844 --> 00:02:58,394 you've got all the chords you can play with, 55 00:02:58,395 --> 00:03:01,766 put those in permutations, then mess with the bass notes. 56 00:03:01,767 --> 00:03:03,135 Obvious thing to do is to do 57 00:03:03,141 --> 00:03:05,226 the... the note 58 00:03:05,227 --> 00:03:07,347 one octave down that relates to that chord. 59 00:03:07,354 --> 00:03:08,360 Plays lower chord 60 00:03:08,361 --> 00:03:09,435 But you can do... 61 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:11,479 playing melody 62 00:03:11,483 --> 00:03:12,483 ‐ Harmony. 63 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:17,198 ‐ And you, you're getting really dramatic now. 64 00:03:22,286 --> 00:03:23,286 ‐ Yeah. 65 00:03:24,162 --> 00:03:27,502 ‐ And I think that's all we ever did, you know, just experimented. 66 00:03:27,916 --> 00:03:30,916 Uh, with John doing Imagine, you could hear that's him... 67 00:03:32,129 --> 00:03:33,169 Yeah. 68 00:03:33,172 --> 00:03:35,301 ‐ It's just sort of what we'd learned based on that. 69 00:03:35,302 --> 00:03:36,716 Playing rock music on piano 70 00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:37,717 ‐ Yeah. 71 00:03:39,761 --> 00:03:42,600 ‐ I saw John Legend the other night, and John's doing this... 72 00:03:42,601 --> 00:03:43,808 playing chords on piano 73 00:03:43,809 --> 00:03:46,637 I forget what the song was. And then he sort of goes... 74 00:03:51,106 --> 00:03:52,856 But that's, that's those... 75 00:03:52,858 --> 00:03:55,068 ‐ Yeah. Yeah. 76 00:03:55,402 --> 00:03:58,112 ‐ You, you know, if you put some nice soul stuff over that... 77 00:03:58,530 --> 00:04:02,780 I got pain, I got my pain in my heart 78 00:04:02,784 --> 00:04:03,784 - You know? - Yeah. 79 00:04:08,498 --> 00:04:09,578 Or... 80 00:04:09,583 --> 00:04:12,376 When I find myself in times of trouble 81 00:04:12,377 --> 00:04:14,917 Mother Mary comes to me 82 00:04:14,922 --> 00:04:16,422 Same chords. ‐ Wow. 83 00:04:16,423 --> 00:04:18,093 ‐ Words of wisdom 84 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:19,715 Let it be 85 00:04:20,969 --> 00:04:21,509 Wow. 86 00:04:21,512 --> 00:04:24,392 ‐ Let it be, let it be 87 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:27,765 Let it be, let it be 88 00:04:28,727 --> 00:04:30,807 'Cause there will be an answer 89 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:33,065 Let it be 90 00:04:34,525 --> 00:04:39,605 Let It Be playing 91 00:04:54,670 --> 00:04:57,550 Let it be, let it be 92 00:04:58,048 --> 00:05:01,298 Let it be, yeah, let it be 93 00:05:02,636 --> 00:05:05,555 There will be an answer 94 00:05:05,556 --> 00:05:09,426 Let it be 95 00:05:17,359 --> 00:05:19,989 Song ends 96 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:24,615 Our favorite composer was Bach in the Beatles 97 00:05:24,616 --> 00:05:26,784 'cause it was nearest to what we were doing. 98 00:05:26,785 --> 00:05:28,695 And we would just say, "Just put a beat behind it." 99 00:05:28,704 --> 00:05:29,834 ‐ Yeah. 100 00:05:32,791 --> 00:05:33,711 Yeah. 101 00:05:33,712 --> 00:05:34,959 ‐ It'd be, it'd be better. 102 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,544 ‐ Yeah. ‐ It'd be better then. 103 00:05:36,545 --> 00:05:37,245 ‐ Yeah. 104 00:05:37,254 --> 00:05:40,047 ‐ What I liked about it was the mathematical thing, 105 00:05:40,048 --> 00:05:41,048 so that you kind of go... 106 00:05:41,049 --> 00:05:42,758 plays notes 107 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:43,929 Or Eleanor Rigby... 108 00:05:43,930 --> 00:05:45,636 playing higher notes 109 00:05:45,637 --> 00:05:49,177 You do that. So you go one, two, three, four. 110 00:05:49,183 --> 00:05:51,313 And then you found out this is what they were doing. 111 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:55,902 One. Two. 112 00:05:56,648 --> 00:05:57,648 And then it... 113 00:05:58,775 --> 00:06:02,565 You know, so you put those together and then on top of it, you might put... 114 00:06:02,571 --> 00:06:05,781 playing quick high notes 115 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:11,204 So you've got, like, you know, two or four or eight. 116 00:06:11,205 --> 00:06:13,164 ‐ Yeah. Yeah. In the same space. ‐ Very simple mathematics. 117 00:06:13,165 --> 00:06:14,575 ‐ Yeah, yeah, yeah. ‐ It's all happening together, 118 00:06:14,583 --> 00:06:18,173 so it gives this lovely feel of something satisfying. 119 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:23,216 Eleanor. 120 00:06:23,217 --> 00:06:24,217 ‐ Let's do it. 121 00:06:24,801 --> 00:06:25,801 ‐ Aah! 122 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,057 Ah, look at all the lonely people! 123 00:06:33,644 --> 00:06:37,980 Ah, look at all the lonely people! 124 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:42,317 Eleanor Rigby 125 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:46,369 Picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been 126 00:06:47,658 --> 00:06:51,158 Lives in a dream waits at the window 127 00:06:51,161 --> 00:06:53,001 ‐ So that's where they've done. Yeah. 128 00:06:53,872 --> 00:06:55,042 I remember... 129 00:06:57,459 --> 00:07:01,087 showing this to George, uh, Martin 130 00:07:01,088 --> 00:07:04,338 and we'd already done Yesterday, 131 00:07:04,341 --> 00:07:05,551 so this was like, 132 00:07:06,802 --> 00:07:09,262 it'd be nice to... I think this song could suit, 133 00:07:09,721 --> 00:07:12,309 but instead of a quartet, it was now an octet. 134 00:07:12,310 --> 00:07:14,767 Again, just to do something a bit different. 135 00:07:15,352 --> 00:07:18,362 And I brought it in like, a little bit like... ‐ Yeah. 136 00:07:19,356 --> 00:07:20,606 ‐ Yeah, I brought it in like... 137 00:07:22,401 --> 00:07:24,031 Eleanor Rigby 138 00:07:31,577 --> 00:07:33,494 And then George would show me. 139 00:07:33,495 --> 00:07:35,365 He would say, "Well, okay, that's sort of rock and roll." 140 00:07:35,372 --> 00:07:36,212 plays chord 141 00:07:36,213 --> 00:07:38,536 So all pretty much in one octave. 142 00:07:38,542 --> 00:07:39,542 Mm‐hmm. 143 00:07:40,294 --> 00:07:44,755 ‐ But he would then say, "Okay, so a cello would go there 144 00:07:44,756 --> 00:07:48,296 "and then a viola would go there, 145 00:07:48,302 --> 00:07:49,342 and then..." 146 00:07:50,387 --> 00:07:52,007 So he would separate all the notes. 147 00:07:52,014 --> 00:07:52,604 Yeah. 148 00:07:52,605 --> 00:07:56,058 ‐ And that's a fabulous orchestration that, that he did. 149 00:07:57,060 --> 00:07:59,730 ‐ And this doesn't have the piano in it? 150 00:08:00,230 --> 00:08:02,110 You wrote it on the piano and then decided to... ‐ Yeah, that was... 151 00:08:02,111 --> 00:08:04,357 Yeah, that was the thing because, you know, Yesterday, 152 00:08:04,359 --> 00:08:06,529 there'd just been the one guitar. ‐ Yeah. 153 00:08:06,530 --> 00:08:09,488 ‐ So we decided we'd kind of try and go a little bit further... ‐ Yeah. 154 00:08:09,489 --> 00:08:13,739 ‐ And just have this, and then I would sing to this. 155 00:08:13,744 --> 00:08:17,834 You know, so I'd show George the chords. He would then transpose it. 156 00:08:18,832 --> 00:08:21,292 Then George would talk to the musicians, sort of say... 157 00:08:22,336 --> 00:08:25,256 I want it kind of really, bam, bam, quite bright. 158 00:08:25,257 --> 00:08:28,255 Staccato. 159 00:08:28,258 --> 00:08:29,758 And they got into it. ‐ Yeah. 160 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,550 ‐ They loved it, you know. 161 00:08:30,552 --> 00:08:33,059 It's a nice, nice little arrangement on its own. 162 00:08:33,060 --> 00:08:34,925 ‐ Yeah. ‐ And then I sang it. 163 00:08:34,932 --> 00:08:36,852 And I didn't think I was singing it well. 164 00:08:37,267 --> 00:08:40,977 I remember talking to George, "I'm not singing this." 165 00:08:40,979 --> 00:08:42,809 He said, "No, it's okay. It's good." 166 00:08:42,814 --> 00:08:45,566 He was calming me down. ‐ Mm. 167 00:08:45,567 --> 00:08:47,357 ‐ And then we double tracked it. ‐ Mm. 168 00:08:47,361 --> 00:08:50,029 ‐ I think probably because I didn't think I'd sung it well, 169 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:51,320 so then... "Double track it." 170 00:08:51,323 --> 00:08:53,163 We cover any sins. 171 00:08:53,951 --> 00:08:57,995 ‐ When you first heard it played by the octet... 172 00:08:57,996 --> 00:08:59,786 ‐ Mm. ‐ ...what was the feeling like? 173 00:08:59,790 --> 00:09:01,499 ‐ It was very exciting, actually. 174 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:03,540 Downstairs in Abbey Road, 175 00:09:03,544 --> 00:09:06,003 the eight guys assembled 176 00:09:06,004 --> 00:09:08,256 and they did it live. 177 00:09:08,257 --> 00:09:09,627 ‐ Did you listen from the control room? 178 00:09:09,633 --> 00:09:10,883 Do you remember? ‐ Yeah. 179 00:09:10,884 --> 00:09:12,931 I would, I would kind of go down and say hi 180 00:09:12,932 --> 00:09:14,718 and, you know, listen to it down there. 181 00:09:14,721 --> 00:09:15,389 ‐ Yeah. 182 00:09:15,390 --> 00:09:16,929 ‐ Which is always nice first. ‐ Yeah. 183 00:09:16,932 --> 00:09:19,310 ‐ Then you go up and see what the engineers are making of it. 184 00:09:19,311 --> 00:09:19,937 ‐ Yeah. 185 00:09:19,938 --> 00:09:21,725 ‐ You know, they'd put it all together. ‐ Yeah. 186 00:09:21,728 --> 00:09:23,808 ‐ Put the right little bits of fairy dust on it. 187 00:09:23,814 --> 00:09:24,314 ‐ Yeah. 188 00:09:24,315 --> 00:09:27,191 ‐ And they, they now made it like a record. 189 00:09:29,778 --> 00:09:33,818 It's funny. On the EMI desk that we first worked on, 190 00:09:33,824 --> 00:09:36,294 there was the thing on the end of the desk here, 191 00:09:36,295 --> 00:09:37,785 a little switch. 192 00:09:37,786 --> 00:09:41,866 You'd put it up for classical and then down for pop. 193 00:09:41,874 --> 00:09:44,384 So ours was always in the pop position. 194 00:09:45,085 --> 00:09:46,544 It was funny 'cause we, 195 00:09:46,545 --> 00:09:49,205 we took things very on face value. 196 00:09:49,214 --> 00:09:50,256 ‐ Yeah. 197 00:09:50,257 --> 00:09:53,717 ‐ "Why have they got a better set of EQs than we've got?" 198 00:09:54,344 --> 00:09:56,182 They said, "No, it's not better. 199 00:09:56,183 --> 00:09:59,390 "Pop, you need more of these, sort of aggression and so and so. 200 00:09:59,391 --> 00:10:02,601 Classical, it's more, it's sort of more mellow and stuff." 201 00:10:02,603 --> 00:10:04,395 But that was our way of thinking. 202 00:10:04,396 --> 00:10:05,356 ‐ Yeah. 203 00:10:05,357 --> 00:10:07,145 ‐ "Wait a minute. How come they've got that? 204 00:10:08,066 --> 00:10:09,316 We want a bit of..." 205 00:10:11,028 --> 00:10:14,447 classical music playing 206 00:10:18,243 --> 00:10:21,287 With Penny Lane, I'd come into the studio 207 00:10:21,288 --> 00:10:24,707 and the night before I happened to be watching on television 208 00:10:24,708 --> 00:10:27,208 the Brandenburg Concerto. Bach. 209 00:10:27,211 --> 00:10:28,089 ‐ Yeah. 210 00:10:28,090 --> 00:10:30,004 ‐ I'd just kind of got it on the background almost, you know. 211 00:10:30,005 --> 00:10:30,835 I'm listening to it. 212 00:10:30,839 --> 00:10:33,299 And then there's a little trumpet, 213 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:36,385 very high little trumpet that Bach uses. 214 00:10:36,386 --> 00:10:38,556 ‐ Mm. ‐ And I came in the next day, 215 00:10:38,557 --> 00:10:40,595 I said to George, I said, "George, wha..." Martin. 216 00:10:40,599 --> 00:10:42,639 ‐ Yeah. ‐ I said "What was that?" 217 00:10:42,643 --> 00:10:44,563 He said, "Oh, that's a piccolo trumpet." 218 00:10:53,403 --> 00:10:55,073 Funny thing about George, he knew 219 00:10:55,697 --> 00:10:57,406 all the best players... ‐ Yeah. 220 00:10:57,407 --> 00:10:59,487 ‐ from the classical orchestras. 221 00:10:59,493 --> 00:11:01,543 And there's a guy called David Mason 222 00:11:01,544 --> 00:11:04,667 who was a really good player. 223 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,667 And so we just booked him. ‐ Yeah. 224 00:11:07,668 --> 00:11:09,627 ‐ So we go in there and we've done the track, 225 00:11:09,628 --> 00:11:12,208 and we're ready to put this, we've left room for a solo. 226 00:11:12,214 --> 00:11:14,632 George and David sort of say, 227 00:11:14,633 --> 00:11:17,393 "Okay, so what do we, what do we want to play?" 228 00:11:17,803 --> 00:11:19,013 And I go, um, 229 00:11:22,266 --> 00:11:23,806 And they go, "Okay, hang on." 230 00:11:23,809 --> 00:11:25,019 And they're writing it down. 231 00:11:26,478 --> 00:11:28,396 So we were kind of making it up on the spot. 232 00:11:28,397 --> 00:11:28,977 ‐ Yeah. 233 00:11:28,981 --> 00:11:31,440 And so I went... 234 00:11:31,441 --> 00:11:34,361 and put, like, an impossible high note. 235 00:11:34,862 --> 00:11:37,362 And David Mason turns to me, he says, 236 00:11:37,364 --> 00:11:39,365 "Well, that's officially 237 00:11:39,366 --> 00:11:42,196 out of the range of the piccolo trumpet even." 238 00:11:42,744 --> 00:11:45,830 And I kind of give him a look like, "Yeah." 239 00:11:45,831 --> 00:11:48,624 Like, "You can do it," you know. 240 00:11:48,625 --> 00:11:50,705 He goes, "Okay." 241 00:11:51,545 --> 00:11:53,665 So he plays it and it's, uh, 242 00:11:54,214 --> 00:11:55,724 it haunted him for the rest of his life, you know. 243 00:11:55,725 --> 00:11:57,586 ‐ Let's hear this. ‐ Yeah. 244 00:11:57,593 --> 00:12:00,094 Penny Lane playing 245 00:12:00,095 --> 00:12:01,425 ‐ The flute's beautiful too. 246 00:12:02,764 --> 00:12:05,104 ‐ Yeah, I think it's a mix of the two. 247 00:12:08,061 --> 00:12:11,439 Trumpet playing high notes 248 00:12:14,526 --> 00:12:15,436 Wow! 249 00:12:15,444 --> 00:12:19,280 Trumpet continues 250 00:12:19,281 --> 00:12:20,371 ‐ It's singing. ‐ Yeah. 251 00:12:23,952 --> 00:12:26,871 Penny Lane is in my ears 252 00:12:26,872 --> 00:12:29,042 ‐ Whoa! ‐ That was cool. 253 00:12:33,962 --> 00:12:37,672 ‐ Four of fish and finger pies 254 00:12:37,674 --> 00:12:40,676 In summer, meanwhile back 255 00:12:40,677 --> 00:12:44,637 Behind the shelter in the middle of a roundabout 256 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,640 A pretty nurse is selling... 257 00:12:46,642 --> 00:12:48,561 ‐ It's a groove you can listen to all day. 258 00:12:48,562 --> 00:12:50,400 You know, it's just like... ‐ Yeah. 259 00:12:50,896 --> 00:12:52,806 ‐ That feeling doesn't get old. 260 00:12:53,357 --> 00:12:55,567 ‐ She is anyway 261 00:12:56,235 --> 00:12:57,895 Very strange 262 00:12:57,903 --> 00:13:01,697 Penny Lane is in my ears... 263 00:13:01,698 --> 00:13:03,278 ‐ Now these are more funky. 264 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:04,325 ‐ Yeah. 265 00:13:04,326 --> 00:13:07,196 Trumpet playing 266 00:13:08,163 --> 00:13:12,166 ‐ I don't think this is David. This is other players. 267 00:13:12,167 --> 00:13:14,957 ‐ I sit and meanwhile back 268 00:13:16,630 --> 00:13:19,340 ‐ I never heard that before. Crash sound. It was cool. 269 00:13:19,341 --> 00:13:21,217 I've heard it. Yeah. Yeah. 270 00:13:21,218 --> 00:13:22,298 ‐ Oh. 271 00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:23,892 ‐ They're so, they're so high. 272 00:13:29,268 --> 00:13:31,268 Ridiculous. ‐ Beautiful. 273 00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:39,944 Song ends 274 00:13:39,945 --> 00:13:42,105 ‐ And that's an example, there at the end, that... 275 00:13:42,114 --> 00:13:43,281 Yeah. 276 00:13:43,282 --> 00:13:46,200 ‐ I mean, anyone else would go, "Oh, that's feedback." 277 00:13:46,201 --> 00:13:47,331 ‐ Yeah. ‐ "Let's get rid of it." 278 00:13:47,332 --> 00:13:48,867 And it well might be feedback. 279 00:13:48,871 --> 00:13:50,081 I don't remember. ‐ Yeah. 280 00:13:50,082 --> 00:13:52,248 ‐ But with us, going, "No, it sounds good." 281 00:13:52,249 --> 00:13:53,499 ‐ Yeah. ‐ You know, "It's great. 282 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:54,840 It's fine," you know. 283 00:13:55,252 --> 00:13:59,005 So we'd leave accidents a lot of the time. ‐ Yeah. 284 00:13:59,006 --> 00:14:01,716 Would the engineers ever fight back, like, if you did something 285 00:14:01,717 --> 00:14:03,797 and didn't like the way the meters were looking or anything like that? 286 00:14:03,802 --> 00:14:05,011 ‐ In the beginning, yeah. ‐ Yeah. 287 00:14:05,012 --> 00:14:06,512 - Because they're trained... - Yeah. 288 00:14:06,513 --> 00:14:08,556 By the record company 289 00:14:08,557 --> 00:14:10,057 to follow the meters. 290 00:14:10,058 --> 00:14:11,388 You're not supposed to go in the red. 291 00:14:11,393 --> 00:14:13,102 - Yeah. - Obviously, you know. 292 00:14:13,103 --> 00:14:15,443 But we'd say, "No, go in the red. Go in the red." 293 00:14:16,023 --> 00:14:18,611 'Cause it would make the guitars, like, hot, 294 00:14:18,612 --> 00:14:21,859 make an acoustic guitar, like, into an electric guitar. 295 00:14:21,862 --> 00:14:23,612 ‐ Yeah. ‐ These days, it's not so easy. 296 00:14:23,614 --> 00:14:26,949 These older boards, you could defeat them. 297 00:14:26,950 --> 00:14:29,327 If we went into the red, it would distort a bit. 298 00:14:29,328 --> 00:14:29,998 ‐ Yeah. 299 00:14:29,999 --> 00:14:32,205 ‐ Now they're rather good, and they can handle it. 300 00:14:32,206 --> 00:14:32,996 ‐ I see. 301 00:14:32,998 --> 00:14:34,248 ‐ Which is a pity. ‐ Yeah. 302 00:14:34,249 --> 00:14:36,129 ‐ Because, you know, we used to love that. 303 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,050 ‐ Would you ever, after recording a guitar song, 304 00:14:39,051 --> 00:14:42,546 decide to reinforce the guitars with piano or... 305 00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:43,839 ‐ Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. 306 00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:45,430 Sometimes, it's really a good idea. 307 00:14:45,431 --> 00:14:47,047 Say you've got a little bass part. 308 00:14:47,054 --> 00:14:48,934 ‐ Yeah. ‐ And the bass is doing a... 309 00:14:53,393 --> 00:14:55,811 Then you can come... playing piano 310 00:14:57,981 --> 00:15:00,358 That combined with a bass is a great sound. 311 00:15:00,359 --> 00:15:01,029 Yeah. 312 00:15:01,030 --> 00:15:03,396 - This gives it the punch. - Yeah. 313 00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:05,530 The attack. 314 00:15:05,531 --> 00:15:06,781 - Yeah. - Yeah. 315 00:15:06,782 --> 00:15:11,536 Playing up‐tempo music 316 00:15:18,877 --> 00:15:19,877 Yeah. 317 00:15:20,587 --> 00:15:22,837 This reminds me a bit of the piano 318 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,010 that's still there in Abbey Road, actually. 319 00:15:25,011 --> 00:15:27,588 We used to call it Mrs. Mills' piano 320 00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:30,101 'cause there was a pianist who did all this sort of... 321 00:15:30,102 --> 00:15:31,267 plays piano and hums 322 00:15:31,268 --> 00:15:33,345 And you're like... 323 00:15:33,350 --> 00:15:35,226 I can't play it. Stride. 324 00:15:35,227 --> 00:15:39,105 Playing upbeat music 325 00:15:45,195 --> 00:15:47,864 And Mrs. Mills' piano inspired that. 326 00:15:47,865 --> 00:15:48,815 ‐ Hmm. ‐ You know? 327 00:15:48,824 --> 00:15:50,580 I mean, I wrote it at home. ‐ Yeah. 328 00:15:50,581 --> 00:15:54,246 ‐ But it was like, "No, got to do this on that funky little piano." 329 00:15:54,788 --> 00:15:56,328 And songs like that, 330 00:15:56,331 --> 00:15:58,961 um, I like to kind of change my voice a bit. 331 00:15:59,418 --> 00:16:01,798 So I like to sort of get a harder voice. 332 00:16:01,799 --> 00:16:04,875 Lady Madonna 333 00:16:04,882 --> 00:16:06,801 - Instead of... - Lady Madonna 334 00:16:06,802 --> 00:16:08,800 - So you're going... - Lady Madonna 335 00:16:09,428 --> 00:16:11,218 Children at your feet 336 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,184 Wonder how you manage to make ends meet 337 00:16:16,185 --> 00:16:18,055 Lady Madonna 338 00:16:18,562 --> 00:16:19,604 Yeah 339 00:16:19,605 --> 00:16:21,105 ‐ So the singer would be the same guy 340 00:16:21,106 --> 00:16:22,896 who's playing that piano part, makes sense. 341 00:16:22,900 --> 00:16:24,278 ‐ Yeah. ‐ It's almost like a character study. 342 00:16:24,279 --> 00:16:25,279 ‐ Yeah. Yeah. 343 00:16:25,694 --> 00:16:28,494 I‐I... It's one of the things I'd like to do, you know. 344 00:16:29,573 --> 00:16:34,076 Instruments tuning on recording vocalizing on recording 345 00:16:34,077 --> 00:16:35,995 ‐ Love that sound of the tape starting. 346 00:16:35,996 --> 00:16:37,286 ‐ Yeah. It's such a good sound. 347 00:16:37,289 --> 00:16:38,869 Three, four. 348 00:16:38,874 --> 00:16:43,174 Paul McCartney & Wings' Band On The Run playing 349 00:16:46,965 --> 00:16:48,965 I sit and watch all the children. 350 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,050 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Walking by... 351 00:16:52,971 --> 00:16:54,521 They seem to say to me... 352 00:16:54,932 --> 00:16:57,232 I couldn't tell what she was thinking. 353 00:16:59,144 --> 00:17:00,154 But I knew 354 00:17:01,104 --> 00:17:02,734 it was through. 355 00:17:06,068 --> 00:17:10,908 ‐ Yeah, my, my record label, they've got studios everywhere, you know. 356 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,330 Brazil. China. 357 00:17:13,825 --> 00:17:16,245 And I was into tenor guitar. 358 00:17:19,748 --> 00:17:21,078 Little sort of Africany thing. 359 00:17:21,542 --> 00:17:24,172 So I liked that, so I just plunked for Lagos. 360 00:17:24,173 --> 00:17:25,379 Let's go there. 361 00:17:26,421 --> 00:17:27,801 Okay, now go, boy. 362 00:17:27,802 --> 00:17:32,088 Stuck inside these four walls 363 00:17:33,762 --> 00:17:35,309 Sent inside forever 364 00:17:35,310 --> 00:17:37,715 ‐ Really good vocal. It's a good vocal. 365 00:17:37,724 --> 00:17:39,694 ‐ It's a nice, like, gentle little... 366 00:17:39,695 --> 00:17:44,185 ‐ Never seeing no one 367 00:17:45,607 --> 00:17:49,647 Nice again 368 00:17:50,696 --> 00:17:53,656 Like you 369 00:17:54,408 --> 00:17:58,995 Mama, you 370 00:17:58,996 --> 00:18:00,616 ‐ I'm drumming on this too. 371 00:18:01,832 --> 00:18:03,379 Couple of members of my band 372 00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:05,535 rang me up the night before we were due to leave. 373 00:18:05,544 --> 00:18:06,844 They said, "We're not coming." 374 00:18:07,462 --> 00:18:08,712 For an hour or so, it was like, 375 00:18:08,714 --> 00:18:10,761 "Oh, what a bummer. I don't believe it," 376 00:18:10,762 --> 00:18:12,297 you know, "God," you know. 377 00:18:12,301 --> 00:18:16,637 And then a sort of optimistic spirit came back, 378 00:18:16,638 --> 00:18:18,057 and I sort of thought, 379 00:18:18,058 --> 00:18:20,176 "You know what? We're going to make a record." 380 00:18:24,646 --> 00:18:25,646 ‐ Yeah. 381 00:18:27,608 --> 00:18:28,608 There was a little period 382 00:18:28,609 --> 00:18:32,319 when certain people started writing, like, "rock opera." 383 00:18:32,321 --> 00:18:32,861 ‐ Yeah. 384 00:18:32,863 --> 00:18:36,073 ‐ It was kind of nice. It was, like, different. 385 00:18:36,867 --> 00:18:38,287 So I thought I could have a go at it. 386 00:18:38,288 --> 00:18:44,115 Band On the Run continues 387 00:18:48,045 --> 00:18:50,254 ‐ Is that a Moog? ‐ Yeah. 388 00:18:50,255 --> 00:18:52,755 ‐ If I ever get out of here 389 00:18:53,175 --> 00:18:55,715 Thought of giving it all away 390 00:18:56,094 --> 00:18:58,644 To a registered charity 391 00:18:59,014 --> 00:19:01,182 All I need is a pint a day 392 00:19:01,183 --> 00:19:03,643 If I ever get outta here 393 00:19:04,144 --> 00:19:06,812 If we ever get outta here 394 00:19:14,947 --> 00:19:19,534 Music crescendos 395 00:19:19,535 --> 00:19:21,945 ‐ Yeah, again, unexpected twists and turns. 396 00:19:21,954 --> 00:19:23,544 ‐ Yeah. Yeah. ‐ Cinematic. 397 00:19:23,545 --> 00:19:27,329 ‐ Well, the rain exploded with a mighty crash 398 00:19:27,334 --> 00:19:30,004 As we fell into the sun 399 00:19:31,129 --> 00:19:35,216 And the first one said to the second one there 400 00:19:35,217 --> 00:19:38,637 "I hope you're having fun" 401 00:19:39,096 --> 00:19:41,516 Band on the run 402 00:19:42,891 --> 00:19:45,434 Band on the run 403 00:19:45,435 --> 00:19:50,145 So we went to Lagos where the studio was just being kind of finished, 404 00:19:50,148 --> 00:19:51,607 but it was good. 405 00:19:51,608 --> 00:19:57,278 And I had with me the tapes of all the songs for the album. 406 00:19:57,281 --> 00:19:57,951 ‐ Mm‐hmm. 407 00:19:57,952 --> 00:20:01,028 ‐ However, we were warned, whatever you do, 408 00:20:01,034 --> 00:20:04,004 don't go out late in certain areas. 409 00:20:04,454 --> 00:20:07,373 And, so of course, we go to a friend's house, 410 00:20:07,374 --> 00:20:08,834 and we go out late at night. 411 00:20:09,459 --> 00:20:12,299 Hippies. We just did not listen to anyone. 412 00:20:12,838 --> 00:20:14,048 So a car pulls up. 413 00:20:14,631 --> 00:20:16,181 The guy gets out of the car, 414 00:20:17,217 --> 00:20:20,427 and, and I go into Liverpool mode. 415 00:20:20,429 --> 00:20:23,429 I go, "Oh, that is so nice of you." 416 00:20:24,141 --> 00:20:26,231 "You're going to give us a lift. No, get back in your car." 417 00:20:26,232 --> 00:20:28,306 So I bundle him back in the car. ‐ Yeah. 418 00:20:28,312 --> 00:20:31,062 Five of them jumped out the car, one of them had a knife. 419 00:20:31,982 --> 00:20:34,317 Linda's, aah! Screaming at them. 420 00:20:34,318 --> 00:20:38,157 So they took all our stuff, including my demos for Band On The Run. 421 00:20:38,158 --> 00:20:40,775 That was the only thing I was really pissed about. 422 00:20:40,782 --> 00:20:41,532 ‐ Yeah. 423 00:20:41,533 --> 00:20:45,293 ‐ And so now we had to make the album with just three of us, 424 00:20:45,294 --> 00:20:48,706 me, Linda, and Denny, without the demo recordings. 425 00:20:48,707 --> 00:20:49,787 ‐ Yes. 426 00:20:49,791 --> 00:20:52,001 ‐ And so, again, we just thought, 427 00:20:52,002 --> 00:20:54,629 "Right, let's do this." 428 00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:57,340 And we just became determined 429 00:20:57,341 --> 00:21:01,469 to, to make it a... a good record. 430 00:21:01,470 --> 00:21:04,010 ‐ Yeah, the band on the run 431 00:21:05,265 --> 00:21:07,675 Band on the run 432 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,520 ‐ Do you feel like by going there, it impacted the album? 433 00:21:13,524 --> 00:21:15,194 ‐ I was kind of half wondering 434 00:21:15,195 --> 00:21:18,986 whether we'd pick up a lot of African vibes 435 00:21:18,987 --> 00:21:20,905 and maybe musicians, 436 00:21:20,906 --> 00:21:22,446 bit Graceland thing, you know. ‐ Yeah. 437 00:21:22,449 --> 00:21:24,575 ‐ Um, but we didn't. 438 00:21:24,576 --> 00:21:28,036 The only thing happened was I went to see Fela Kuti. 439 00:21:28,580 --> 00:21:30,870 Singing ITT 440 00:21:30,874 --> 00:21:31,794 ‐ Long time ago 441 00:21:31,795 --> 00:21:34,130 ‐ Na for them culture to carry shit 442 00:21:34,131 --> 00:21:35,457 ‐ Long time ago 443 00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:37,632 ‐ During the time them come colonize us 444 00:21:37,633 --> 00:21:38,965 ‐ Long time ago 445 00:21:38,966 --> 00:21:41,175 ‐ Them come teach us to carry shit 446 00:21:41,176 --> 00:21:42,466 ‐ Long time ago 447 00:21:42,469 --> 00:21:44,599 ‐ Long, long, long, long time ago 448 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,055 ‐ Long time ago 449 00:21:54,314 --> 00:21:56,154 This was at the Afrika Shrine, 450 00:21:56,859 --> 00:21:59,529 - which was his club outside Lagos. - Yeah. 451 00:22:00,404 --> 00:22:03,865 ‐ You're sitting right by him. Front row seats. 452 00:22:03,866 --> 00:22:04,986 ‐ Yeah. 453 00:22:04,992 --> 00:22:07,076 What was the energy in the room like? 454 00:22:07,077 --> 00:22:08,447 ‐ The energy was great. It was all... 455 00:22:08,453 --> 00:22:10,121 ‐ Were people dancing or... ‐ Yeah. 456 00:22:10,122 --> 00:22:11,042 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Yeah. 457 00:22:11,043 --> 00:22:14,789 When he came on and his band kicked in, whoa. 458 00:22:14,793 --> 00:22:16,794 I still remember the riff. 459 00:22:16,795 --> 00:22:19,964 Playing ITT on piano 460 00:22:30,517 --> 00:22:31,517 ‐ So cool. 461 00:22:32,102 --> 00:22:33,402 ‐ And his whole band kicked in. 462 00:22:39,693 --> 00:22:41,493 So there was Fela at the front 463 00:22:41,494 --> 00:22:43,526 with a little piano. 464 00:22:44,281 --> 00:22:48,121 And the middle, at the back, he's got two conga players. 465 00:22:48,577 --> 00:22:50,407 - They're like the rhythm box. - Yeah. 466 00:22:50,412 --> 00:22:53,414 They're just going... 467 00:22:53,415 --> 00:22:54,735 They're keeping that same rhythm. 468 00:22:55,334 --> 00:22:58,211 This side and that side, like stereo, 469 00:22:58,212 --> 00:23:01,302 and he's got the shakers... 470 00:23:02,883 --> 00:23:04,893 And the drummer, he would go... 471 00:23:08,514 --> 00:23:09,639 Fills. 472 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,310 ‐ Kind of fills. ‐ Yeah. Yeah. 473 00:23:11,311 --> 00:23:12,428 Two guitars. 474 00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:14,103 One's the tenor guitar, 475 00:23:14,104 --> 00:23:16,362 and the other one's a little bit more lead guitar. 476 00:23:16,813 --> 00:23:18,013 Then he's got his sax section. 477 00:23:23,529 --> 00:23:27,529 The music was so incredible that I wept, 478 00:23:28,784 --> 00:23:30,794 just when it hit on the groove. 479 00:23:38,836 --> 00:23:42,546 That was one of the greatest music moments in my life. 480 00:23:42,548 --> 00:23:45,218 ‐ Yeah. Yeah. It sounds incredible. ‐ Hearing that song live. 481 00:23:47,636 --> 00:23:48,796 ‐ Beautiful. 482 00:23:48,804 --> 00:23:50,724 I'm going to play something else, 483 00:23:50,725 --> 00:23:52,642 a very different energy. 484 00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:57,440 ‐ What you got now? ‐ I've got this one. 485 00:23:59,189 --> 00:24:00,519 It will be fun to hear. 486 00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:04,068 Don't go 487 00:24:04,069 --> 00:24:08,489 Jumping waterfalls 488 00:24:09,366 --> 00:24:14,906 Please keep to the lake 489 00:24:14,913 --> 00:24:16,623 ‐ It's a pretty little song this. Yeah. 490 00:24:17,541 --> 00:24:19,250 He said modestly. 491 00:24:19,251 --> 00:24:22,001 ‐ People who jump waterfalls 492 00:24:22,004 --> 00:24:27,974 Sometimes can make mistakes 493 00:24:29,011 --> 00:24:31,261 And I need love 494 00:24:31,263 --> 00:24:34,974 ‐ This is also, even though it's not an electronic song, 495 00:24:34,975 --> 00:24:37,595 this melody is very today. 496 00:24:37,603 --> 00:24:39,653 This is a very modern melody. ‐ You think so? 497 00:24:39,654 --> 00:24:40,936 ‐ I know so. 498 00:24:40,939 --> 00:24:43,439 It's like un... It doesn't... 499 00:24:43,442 --> 00:24:45,992 This sounds like you could hear this now 500 00:24:46,820 --> 00:24:48,410 in an unusual way. 501 00:24:49,364 --> 00:24:52,867 ‐ And it wouldn't be the same 502 00:24:52,868 --> 00:24:55,998 If you ever should decide 503 00:24:56,413 --> 00:25:00,333 To go away 504 00:25:05,172 --> 00:25:08,632 ‐ It kind of did get lost on the album, 505 00:25:08,634 --> 00:25:12,386 but sort of deep fans know that one. ‐ Yeah. 506 00:25:12,387 --> 00:25:14,767 Yes. ‐ And often write to me about it. 507 00:25:15,349 --> 00:25:18,684 ‐ Yeah, yeah. ‐ I think I slightly regretted 508 00:25:18,685 --> 00:25:21,095 that the strings on it 509 00:25:21,104 --> 00:25:23,731 are just a little weedy, synth little things. 510 00:25:23,732 --> 00:25:25,612 ‐ I think that might be part what makes it modern, though. 511 00:25:25,613 --> 00:25:27,109 ‐ Maybe. Well... 512 00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:28,738 ‐ Do you know, it's like... I don't know. It's the‐ 513 00:25:28,739 --> 00:25:30,655 ‐ Hey, you know, the thing is I can have regrets. 514 00:25:30,656 --> 00:25:31,696 They don't have to be right. 515 00:25:31,698 --> 00:25:33,368 Do you know what I'm saying? 516 00:25:33,369 --> 00:25:35,617 I think all of us, we go, "Oh, we should've done that." 517 00:25:35,619 --> 00:25:37,099 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Somebody else will say, "No. 518 00:25:37,829 --> 00:25:39,958 You don't need to. That‐that's fine." So... 519 00:25:39,959 --> 00:25:42,917 ‐ But I don't see you as someone, as having a lot of regrets, 520 00:25:42,918 --> 00:25:44,338 looking back on music that you made. 521 00:25:44,339 --> 00:25:45,456 ‐ Not really. No. 522 00:25:46,505 --> 00:25:47,875 Forge ahead. 523 00:25:47,881 --> 00:25:49,091 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Constantly. 524 00:25:49,424 --> 00:25:50,434 And, um, 525 00:25:51,426 --> 00:25:52,636 well, that's what I love. 526 00:25:53,428 --> 00:25:55,098 That's what I love about it. ‐ Yeah. 527 00:25:55,099 --> 00:25:56,967 ‐ Music. Life. 528 00:25:57,724 --> 00:26:01,185 That there's, there's always that next little song... 529 00:26:01,186 --> 00:26:02,016 ‐ Yeah. 530 00:26:02,020 --> 00:26:05,190 ‐ that you can be thinking about or writing. 531 00:26:05,566 --> 00:26:07,686 Soft melody 532 00:26:07,693 --> 00:26:09,363 You know, I'm writing a thing at the moment. 533 00:26:09,364 --> 00:26:12,864 Mid‐tempo music playing 534 00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:16,450 Oh. 535 00:26:18,245 --> 00:26:19,245 That's great. 536 00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:20,580 That's great. 537 00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:30,549 ‐ Life can be hard 538 00:26:31,675 --> 00:26:32,795 But then 539 00:26:32,801 --> 00:26:34,681 ‐ So good. ‐ That's when we start 540 00:26:35,262 --> 00:26:38,182 To put it together again 541 00:26:39,474 --> 00:26:41,100 She leads me on 542 00:26:41,101 --> 00:26:42,226 ‐ Yeah. 543 00:26:42,227 --> 00:26:45,855 ‐ And I'm enchanted by her beauty 544 00:26:49,610 --> 00:26:50,610 ‐ Yeah. 545 00:26:52,154 --> 00:26:53,237 Incredible. 546 00:26:53,238 --> 00:26:54,818 ‐ Oh good, man. Oh great. ‐ Really good. 547 00:26:54,823 --> 00:26:57,830 ‐ I goofed it a bit, but... ‐ No, but it sounds like it... 548 00:26:57,831 --> 00:27:00,076 The beauty of it is, when I hear it, it sounds like, 549 00:27:00,078 --> 00:27:02,038 "Oh, this is a song that's always been around." 550 00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,039 You know like it... In a good way. ‐ Like "You know this one." 551 00:27:04,041 --> 00:27:05,750 ‐ But not in a way that I've actually heard it before, 552 00:27:05,751 --> 00:27:08,751 but in a, like, "Oh yeah, this is like one of those songs 553 00:27:08,754 --> 00:27:10,132 that feels like it's in the air." 554 00:27:10,133 --> 00:27:11,550 ‐ Yeah. ‐ Do you know what I mean? 555 00:27:11,551 --> 00:27:13,628 ‐ That's what I've sort of done all my life. 556 00:27:13,634 --> 00:27:15,640 That's what I'm still doing. ‐ Yeah. Yeah. 557 00:27:15,641 --> 00:27:19,556 ‐ Just trying to discover just a little thing that sounds nice. 558 00:27:20,224 --> 00:27:22,225 Someone said Mozart once said, 559 00:27:22,226 --> 00:27:24,516 "I write the notes that like each other." 560 00:27:25,771 --> 00:27:27,190 And I like that. ‐ Yeah. 561 00:27:27,191 --> 00:27:29,229 ‐ I like that. Sounds good to me. ‐ Yeah. Yeah. 562 00:27:30,067 --> 00:27:32,947 Playing Blackbird 563 00:27:38,575 --> 00:27:43,115 Blackbird singing in the dead of night 564 00:27:43,121 --> 00:27:47,081 Take these broken wings and learn to fly 565 00:27:48,377 --> 00:27:51,507 All your life 566 00:27:52,214 --> 00:27:57,468 You were only waiting for this moment to arise 567 00:28:02,474 --> 00:28:06,274 Blackbird singing in the dead of night 568 00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:11,280 Take these sunken eyes and learn to see 569 00:28:12,234 --> 00:28:15,284 All your life 570 00:28:16,071 --> 00:28:21,075 You were only waiting for this moment to be free 571 00:28:21,076 --> 00:28:25,866 Blackbird fly 572 00:28:26,248 --> 00:28:30,585 Blackbird fly 573 00:28:30,586 --> 00:28:34,546 Into the light of the dark black night 574 00:28:51,315 --> 00:28:52,315 Yeah, right, I know. 575 00:28:56,904 --> 00:28:58,324 Okay, man, great. 576 00:29:02,910 --> 00:29:04,660 Night 577 00:29:04,661 --> 00:29:09,331 Blackbird resumes 578 00:29:18,675 --> 00:29:23,215 Blackbird fly 579 00:29:23,722 --> 00:29:27,975 Blackbird fly 580 00:29:27,976 --> 00:29:31,854 Into the light of the dark black night 581 00:29:35,776 --> 00:29:40,446 Blackbird singing in the dead of night 582 00:29:40,447 --> 00:29:43,867 Take these broken wings and learn to fly 583 00:29:45,661 --> 00:29:48,831 All your life 584 00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:54,210 You were only waiting for this moment to arise 585 00:29:54,586 --> 00:30:00,336 You were only waiting for this moment to arise 42543

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