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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,944 --> 00:00:14,074 ORSON: I like houses when they're empty. 2 00:00:14,122 --> 00:00:15,812 I like the quiet. 3 00:00:15,862 --> 00:00:17,862 I like the space. 4 00:00:17,908 --> 00:00:20,778 Sometimes I just sit there before the caravan comes 5 00:00:20,824 --> 00:00:24,954 and I just breathe it all in. 6 00:00:25,002 --> 00:00:27,392 I think spaces look better without people in them, 7 00:00:27,439 --> 00:00:29,099 don't you think? 8 00:00:29,137 --> 00:00:30,837 KRISTEN: So that's why you killed them? 9 00:00:32,357 --> 00:00:34,447 I mean, that's a bit simplistic, isn't it, 10 00:00:34,490 --> 00:00:37,280 killing them because I like space? 11 00:00:37,319 --> 00:00:40,279 Occam's razor. Simpler is truer. 12 00:00:40,322 --> 00:00:43,672 So help me get the timeline straight, Orson. 13 00:00:43,716 --> 00:00:46,456 Who'd you stab first? Mr. or Mrs. Gilbert? 14 00:00:48,808 --> 00:00:50,598 [phone buzzing] 15 00:00:53,161 --> 00:00:54,421 Who's Lila? 16 00:01:00,907 --> 00:01:02,567 Let's focus, Orson. 17 00:01:02,605 --> 00:01:04,475 Who'd you stab first, 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,790 the husband or the wife? 19 00:01:05,825 --> 00:01:06,995 I don't remember stabbing anyone. 20 00:01:09,699 --> 00:01:12,139 Do you remember Mrs. Bentley?[woman screaming] 21 00:01:12,180 --> 00:01:14,060 Two weeks ago, 22 00:01:14,095 --> 00:01:16,405 you stabbed her eight times, then raped her. 23 00:01:16,445 --> 00:01:18,445 And the Lawrences. 24 00:01:18,490 --> 00:01:20,710 Their six-year-old son, do you remember him? 25 00:01:22,407 --> 00:01:24,497 I blacked out. 26 00:01:24,540 --> 00:01:26,110 I already said. 27 00:01:26,150 --> 00:01:28,550 Do you think I'm lying? 28 00:01:28,587 --> 00:01:30,457 I think there are three families dead. 29 00:01:30,502 --> 00:01:32,192 And I think you're facing life 30 00:01:32,243 --> 00:01:34,153 without the possibility of parole. 31 00:01:34,202 --> 00:01:35,762 I think if you wanted to help me, 32 00:01:35,812 --> 00:01:37,462 you could take a short test. 33 00:01:38,684 --> 00:01:39,944 To see if I'm lying? 34 00:01:41,992 --> 00:01:44,902 These are... 35 00:01:44,951 --> 00:01:48,911 567 true or false statements. 36 00:01:48,955 --> 00:01:51,005 You answer as honestly as you can. 37 00:01:51,044 --> 00:01:52,914 Sure. 38 00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:55,619 Not going anywhere. 39 00:01:55,658 --> 00:01:58,098 True or false. "I like mechanics magazines." 40 00:01:58,139 --> 00:02:00,189 [chuckles] Are you serious? 41 00:02:00,228 --> 00:02:01,838 False. 42 00:02:01,881 --> 00:02:04,571 "I think I'd enjoy working as a librarian." 43 00:02:04,623 --> 00:02:06,323 False. 44 00:02:06,364 --> 00:02:08,584 "I have diarrhea once or more a month." 45 00:02:08,627 --> 00:02:11,937 [laughs] False, but thanks for asking. 46 00:02:11,978 --> 00:02:14,118 "I like the sound of a woman screaming." 47 00:02:19,812 --> 00:02:20,812 Orson? 48 00:02:25,775 --> 00:02:28,695 After responding to 567 true or false statements, 49 00:02:28,734 --> 00:02:32,084 the defendant scored an 80 on the MMPI-2 validity scale. 50 00:02:32,129 --> 00:02:34,089 That places him well within the "deceitful" range. 51 00:02:34,131 --> 00:02:35,951 Which means we can't trust his insistence 52 00:02:36,002 --> 00:02:38,302 that he blacked out during the crime? 53 00:02:38,353 --> 00:02:39,303 Not with any degree of certainty. 54 00:02:39,354 --> 00:02:40,264 Thank you, Ms. Bouchard. 55 00:02:40,311 --> 00:02:42,221 Nothing further. 56 00:02:42,270 --> 00:02:44,100 You are a full-time employee 57 00:02:44,141 --> 00:02:45,441 of the Queens D.A.'s office, Ms. Bouchard? 58 00:02:45,490 --> 00:02:46,670 No. Really? 59 00:02:46,709 --> 00:02:48,239 That surprises me because you work 60 00:02:48,276 --> 00:02:50,016 almost exclusively with the D.A.'s office. 61 00:02:50,060 --> 00:02:52,760 I'm an independent contractor.How many times have you testified 62 00:02:52,802 --> 00:02:53,802 for the Queens D.A., Ms. Bouchard? 63 00:02:53,846 --> 00:02:55,586 34 times over two years. 64 00:02:55,631 --> 00:02:57,501 And how many times have you declared a defendant sane? 65 00:02:57,546 --> 00:02:59,546 KRISTEN: A forensic psychologist doesn't declare a defendant... 66 00:02:59,591 --> 00:03:01,201 BOUTELLA: How many times have you determined 67 00:03:01,245 --> 00:03:03,685 the defendant had the mental capacity to be prosecuted? 68 00:03:03,726 --> 00:03:05,946 34 times.Good to know you don't work for the D.A.'s office. 69 00:03:05,989 --> 00:03:07,649 CORMIER: Objection.BOUTELLA: I'll rephrase. 70 00:03:07,686 --> 00:03:09,166 If you didn't testify 71 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:10,950 the way the prosecution wanted, 72 00:03:10,994 --> 00:03:13,084 wouldn't they stop hiring you, ma'am? 73 00:03:13,126 --> 00:03:14,256 My guess is they'd only stop hiring me 74 00:03:14,302 --> 00:03:15,782 if I stopped telling the truth. 75 00:03:15,825 --> 00:03:17,265 So let's talk about the truth, Ms. Bouchard. 76 00:03:17,305 --> 00:03:18,525 Is my client possessed? 77 00:03:20,482 --> 00:03:22,742 CORMIER: Objection. Relevance?BOUTELLA: I'd like to establish 78 00:03:22,788 --> 00:03:24,528 the relevance, if I may, Your Honor.Go ahead. 79 00:03:24,573 --> 00:03:26,663 Is my client possessed by a demon? 80 00:03:28,229 --> 00:03:29,799 A-Are you referring to demons 81 00:03:29,839 --> 00:03:31,409 metaphorically or clinically? 82 00:03:31,449 --> 00:03:33,329 BOUTELLA: Here's an affidavit from my expert witness, 83 00:03:33,364 --> 00:03:35,674 Dr. Leland Townsend. 84 00:03:35,714 --> 00:03:37,884 He claims the defendant has taken on the voice 85 00:03:37,934 --> 00:03:40,544 and characteristics of a demonic presence named Roy. 86 00:03:40,589 --> 00:03:42,809 Do you refute this? 87 00:03:54,864 --> 00:03:56,604 Are you with him? 88 00:03:56,648 --> 00:03:57,778 What? 89 00:03:57,823 --> 00:03:59,693 Are you with the defense expert? 90 00:03:59,738 --> 00:04:02,008 Tell him coaching the defendant is illegal. 91 00:04:02,045 --> 00:04:03,915 I spent 18 hours with LeRoux; 92 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,360 he never once mentioned demons 93 00:04:05,396 --> 00:04:07,916 or showed any signs of possession. 94 00:04:07,964 --> 00:04:09,314 Hello. 95 00:04:09,357 --> 00:04:11,707 She's accusing us of coaching him. 96 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:13,370 It's not gonna work. 97 00:04:13,404 --> 00:04:14,624 Ms. Bouchard, 98 00:04:14,666 --> 00:04:16,316 please take this. 99 00:04:16,364 --> 00:04:17,494 For your own protection. 100 00:04:18,583 --> 00:04:20,413 Trust me, you may need it. 101 00:04:23,196 --> 00:04:25,936 Do you know the "Our Father"? 102 00:04:25,982 --> 00:04:28,852 Again, there's no demonic possession? No. 103 00:04:28,898 --> 00:04:31,598 My wife believes in that stuff, I don't. 104 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,430 Why is the defense saying you're possessed 105 00:04:33,468 --> 00:04:35,208 by a demon named Roy? 106 00:04:35,252 --> 00:04:36,772 I have no idea. 107 00:04:36,819 --> 00:04:38,129 So it's your position that you blacked out 108 00:04:38,168 --> 00:04:40,088 during the killings, and that's it. 109 00:04:40,126 --> 00:04:42,126 Yep. Thank you. 110 00:04:49,397 --> 00:04:50,837 Are you Catholic, Orson? 111 00:04:50,876 --> 00:04:52,056 No. 112 00:04:52,095 --> 00:04:53,315 Are you? 113 00:04:53,357 --> 00:04:55,357 Not anymore. 114 00:05:01,191 --> 00:05:03,541 What does that mean to you? 115 00:05:14,552 --> 00:05:16,812 Our Father who art in Heaven, 116 00:05:16,859 --> 00:05:20,479 hallowed be Thy name. 117 00:05:20,515 --> 00:05:22,695 Thy kingdom come, 118 00:05:22,734 --> 00:05:23,824 Thy will be done... 119 00:05:25,563 --> 00:05:27,043 Quis sicut bestia? 120 00:05:27,086 --> 00:05:28,526 Guard! 121 00:05:28,566 --> 00:05:29,826 Guard! 122 00:05:29,872 --> 00:05:31,782 [Orson shouting in Latin] 123 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:32,840 Settle down! 124 00:05:32,875 --> 00:05:36,575 I will ascend! I will ascend! 125 00:05:36,618 --> 00:05:40,188 I will ascend! I will ascend! 126 00:05:40,230 --> 00:05:42,190 [guard shouts indistinctly] 127 00:05:42,232 --> 00:05:44,142 [alarm blaring] 128 00:05:44,190 --> 00:05:45,980 I can no longer support this. 129 00:05:46,018 --> 00:05:47,808 Excuse me?I can no longer support 130 00:05:47,846 --> 00:05:49,456 a diagnosis of APD. 131 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:51,420 You think this guy's possessed? 132 00:05:51,459 --> 00:05:52,939 No, but I need to assess for hallucinations, 133 00:05:52,982 --> 00:05:54,112 delusions... 134 00:05:54,157 --> 00:05:55,727 The judge wants your opinion now. 135 00:05:55,767 --> 00:05:58,247 Right. And my opinion is: we need more time. 136 00:05:58,291 --> 00:06:00,901 I'll meet you two in court. 137 00:06:05,037 --> 00:06:07,087 You've had a shock, Kristen. 138 00:06:07,126 --> 00:06:09,566 I understand your ambivalence, 139 00:06:09,607 --> 00:06:11,827 but you're not at a university, 140 00:06:11,870 --> 00:06:14,440 you're here cashing our checks. 141 00:06:14,482 --> 00:06:17,612 I'm here to tell the truth. 142 00:06:17,659 --> 00:06:20,449 Which is, I need you on the stand 143 00:06:20,488 --> 00:06:23,448 to confirm your earlier testimony. 144 00:06:23,491 --> 00:06:25,661 Or what? 145 00:06:25,710 --> 00:06:28,460 Or... 146 00:06:28,496 --> 00:06:31,626 we'll have to reconsider our relationship. 147 00:06:31,673 --> 00:06:33,893 That's all. 148 00:06:33,936 --> 00:06:36,066 I'll see you in court. 149 00:06:40,899 --> 00:06:45,519 Your Honor, if I could have just one more second of your time. 150 00:06:45,556 --> 00:06:46,946 Is there a problem? No. 151 00:06:46,992 --> 00:06:48,682 I know this is unorthodox, 152 00:06:48,733 --> 00:06:50,953 speaking to you outside of the courtroom... 153 00:06:50,996 --> 00:06:53,176 [continues indistinctly] 154 00:06:53,216 --> 00:06:55,216 You want someone to lie for you on the stand, 155 00:06:55,261 --> 00:06:57,301 you can get someone else, not me. 156 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:58,400 Your Honor. 157 00:07:13,889 --> 00:07:15,849 [train chugging] 158 00:07:15,891 --> 00:07:17,711 [train whistle blowing] 159 00:07:20,591 --> 00:07:22,111 [classical music playing][indistinct chatter] 160 00:07:22,158 --> 00:07:24,158 Mom! Mom! Thank God you're home! 161 00:07:24,203 --> 00:07:26,113 Daughters! 162 00:07:26,162 --> 00:07:28,162 [overlapping chatter] 163 00:07:31,733 --> 00:07:33,423 So what's this? 164 00:07:33,474 --> 00:07:35,174 The distance between the stars. 165 00:07:35,214 --> 00:07:36,084 Well, of course. What was I thinking? 166 00:07:36,128 --> 00:07:37,698 I was making a rocket ship. 167 00:07:37,739 --> 00:07:38,739 That's beautiful.[overlapping chatter] 168 00:07:38,783 --> 00:07:41,083 Where's Grandma? Have we eaten her? 169 00:07:41,133 --> 00:07:43,303 She's in the backyard. Laura wants it outside. 170 00:07:43,353 --> 00:07:45,183 What have you got behind your back? 171 00:07:45,224 --> 00:07:47,534 I've got nothing behind my back. Let's get this cleaned up. 172 00:07:47,575 --> 00:07:48,615 How long have you been on the laptop? 173 00:07:48,663 --> 00:07:50,313 It's homework. 174 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,540 Are you sure? LEXIS: What happened to your arm? 175 00:07:51,579 --> 00:07:54,629 Nothing. Let's, um, let's clean this up. 176 00:07:54,669 --> 00:07:56,199 [overlapping chatter] 177 00:07:56,235 --> 00:07:57,935 How far off's dinner?Ten minutes. 178 00:07:57,976 --> 00:08:00,586 The oven's out, so we're getting Grubhub instead. 179 00:08:00,631 --> 00:08:01,801 What did happen to your arm? 180 00:08:01,850 --> 00:08:03,330 Oh, nothing. 181 00:08:03,373 --> 00:08:04,803 [playing "Happy Birthday to You" on violin] 182 00:08:04,853 --> 00:08:06,893 Oh, my gosh.[girls laughing] 183 00:08:06,942 --> 00:08:09,372 KRISTEN: So, what's wrong with the stove? 184 00:08:09,422 --> 00:08:10,942 SHERYL: It's just old like this house. 185 00:08:10,989 --> 00:08:14,039 Oh, but, luckily, your husband sent a check. 186 00:08:14,079 --> 00:08:16,089 Can Iread it, please? 187 00:08:16,125 --> 00:08:17,475 $900. [sighs] 188 00:08:17,518 --> 00:08:19,348 That's how much Andy thinks you need for the month. 189 00:08:19,389 --> 00:08:20,789 He says he'll be home soon, 190 00:08:20,825 --> 00:08:22,435 because that's when he'll be done climbing. 191 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:23,569 Isn't that nice of him? Mom. 192 00:08:23,611 --> 00:08:24,951 You take care of the kids, 193 00:08:25,003 --> 00:08:26,263 you pay the bills, 194 00:08:26,309 --> 00:08:27,619 you have the full-time job, and he's, what, 195 00:08:27,658 --> 00:08:29,448 off in Nepal climbing things. 196 00:08:29,486 --> 00:08:32,356 He's actually making money guiding people up Everest. 197 00:08:32,402 --> 00:08:34,662 Not as much as he could in an office in Manhattan. 198 00:08:34,709 --> 00:08:36,369 GIRL: Mom, pizza's here! 199 00:08:36,406 --> 00:08:37,626 GIRL 2: Pizza's here, Mom! 200 00:08:37,668 --> 00:08:39,538 Don't poison them against their father. 201 00:08:39,583 --> 00:08:41,453 I don't have to, honey, 202 00:08:41,498 --> 00:08:43,028 he's doing that all by himself. 203 00:08:45,458 --> 00:08:46,508 Thank you.You're welcome. 204 00:08:48,636 --> 00:08:50,076 Don't stay out too late. 205 00:08:50,115 --> 00:08:51,985 Never! Of course not. 206 00:08:52,030 --> 00:08:54,040 [screaming][train chugging] 207 00:08:58,341 --> 00:08:59,861 Cake! 208 00:08:59,908 --> 00:09:02,568 ♪ Happy birthday to you 209 00:09:02,606 --> 00:09:05,396 ♪ You look like a monkey 210 00:09:05,435 --> 00:09:08,435 ♪ And you smell like one, too. 211 00:09:08,481 --> 00:09:10,911 KRISTEN: "The man in black was hanging in space, 212 00:09:10,962 --> 00:09:12,522 "clinging to the sheer rock face, 213 00:09:12,573 --> 00:09:14,573 "700 feet above the water. 214 00:09:14,618 --> 00:09:16,928 "The Sicilian watched, fascinated. 215 00:09:16,968 --> 00:09:18,758 "'You know,' he said, 216 00:09:18,796 --> 00:09:21,146 'since I've made a study of death and dying...'" 217 00:09:21,190 --> 00:09:23,240 No, do the voice. 218 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:25,149 [with Sicilian accent]: "'You know,' he said, 219 00:09:25,194 --> 00:09:28,324 "'since I've made a study of a-death and a-dying, 220 00:09:28,371 --> 00:09:30,111 and am a great expert...'" 221 00:09:30,155 --> 00:09:31,855 [train chugging nearby] 222 00:09:31,896 --> 00:09:34,156 LILA: Mom. 223 00:09:34,203 --> 00:09:37,033 A man called wanting me to give you a message. 224 00:09:37,075 --> 00:09:38,595 Okay. 225 00:09:38,642 --> 00:09:41,122 He said we'd be homeless if you didn't repay the loan. 226 00:09:41,166 --> 00:09:42,686 I left the number by the phone. 227 00:09:42,733 --> 00:09:46,303 Can we get Dad to call him? 228 00:09:46,345 --> 00:09:48,435 It's just what's left of my student loan. 229 00:09:48,478 --> 00:09:51,348 They always say scary things to scare family members. 230 00:09:51,394 --> 00:09:52,564 Just ignore them. 231 00:09:52,613 --> 00:09:54,613 Okay. Okay. [kisses] 232 00:09:54,658 --> 00:09:56,878 Good night.Good night, Mom. 233 00:09:56,921 --> 00:09:59,661 234 00:09:59,707 --> 00:10:01,357 Don't you dare call my kids. 235 00:10:01,404 --> 00:10:03,754 You want to scare me, you scare me. 236 00:10:03,798 --> 00:10:05,978 Or I swear, I'm gonna take that money I still owe you 237 00:10:06,017 --> 00:10:07,937 and burn it on my lawn. 238 00:10:17,855 --> 00:10:20,035 [train chugging] 239 00:10:20,075 --> 00:10:21,465 [exhales sharply] 240 00:10:22,817 --> 00:10:25,297 [doorbell buzzing] 241 00:10:25,341 --> 00:10:26,991 Hello? Oh. 242 00:10:27,038 --> 00:10:28,568 Sorry. 243 00:10:28,605 --> 00:10:30,735 Your work gave me this as your office address. 244 00:10:30,781 --> 00:10:33,471 Oh, yeah, it's... uh, my home address, too. 245 00:10:33,523 --> 00:10:37,303 I heard about your encounter with Mr. LeRoux. 246 00:10:37,353 --> 00:10:39,093 I'm sorry.It's okay. 247 00:10:39,137 --> 00:10:40,227 Are you all right? 248 00:10:40,269 --> 00:10:41,449 Yeah, I'm-I'm fine. 249 00:10:41,487 --> 00:10:43,667 I, uh... thank you. 250 00:10:43,707 --> 00:10:46,057 I also heard that the prosecution 251 00:10:46,101 --> 00:10:48,451 isn't using you as an expert witness anymore, 252 00:10:48,494 --> 00:10:50,754 and I, uh, 253 00:10:50,801 --> 00:10:54,761 wanted to discuss an opportunity. 254 00:10:54,805 --> 00:10:56,985 Sorry, I don't get much heat out here. 255 00:10:57,025 --> 00:10:58,985 Oops. 256 00:10:59,027 --> 00:11:01,077 Oh... [chuckles] 257 00:11:01,116 --> 00:11:02,116 That's okay. 258 00:11:04,859 --> 00:11:06,779 [Kristen clears throat] 259 00:11:06,817 --> 00:11:08,337 Is this you? 260 00:11:08,384 --> 00:11:09,644 Yeah. 261 00:11:09,690 --> 00:11:11,430 You're a climber? 262 00:11:11,474 --> 00:11:13,304 I was. 263 00:11:16,392 --> 00:11:17,522 Seven Summits? 264 00:11:17,567 --> 00:11:19,487 Yes. 265 00:11:19,525 --> 00:11:21,305 Oh. I count five. 266 00:11:21,353 --> 00:11:22,523 I gave up. 267 00:11:22,572 --> 00:11:24,742 Why? 268 00:11:24,792 --> 00:11:26,662 Children. 269 00:11:27,969 --> 00:11:30,189 This your climbing partner? 270 00:11:30,232 --> 00:11:31,442 My husband. 271 00:11:34,453 --> 00:11:36,283 Thanks a lot for the job offer, 272 00:11:36,325 --> 00:11:38,105 but I can't work for the defense. 273 00:11:38,153 --> 00:11:40,023 I'm not with the defense. 274 00:11:40,068 --> 00:11:41,938 I don't understand. 275 00:11:43,158 --> 00:11:45,118 I work for the Catholic Church. 276 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,690 David Acosta. 277 00:11:47,728 --> 00:11:50,078 Why were you in with LeRoux? 278 00:11:50,121 --> 00:11:51,901 I was interviewing him to see whether he was possessed. 279 00:11:53,516 --> 00:11:55,696 So you're a priest?No. 280 00:11:55,736 --> 00:11:57,176 An assessor. 281 00:11:57,215 --> 00:11:58,995 [laughing]: I don't know what that is. 282 00:11:59,043 --> 00:12:03,523 Well, the church has a backlog of about 500,000 requests 283 00:12:03,569 --> 00:12:05,659 for exorcisms and, uh, miracle appraisals. 284 00:12:05,702 --> 00:12:08,662 And my colleague Ben and I are hired by the church 285 00:12:08,705 --> 00:12:10,705 to investigate unexplained phenomenon 286 00:12:10,751 --> 00:12:12,921 and to recommend whether there should be an exorcism 287 00:12:12,970 --> 00:12:14,760 or further research. 288 00:12:15,930 --> 00:12:18,150 I didn't know that was a job. 289 00:12:18,193 --> 00:12:20,453 It is. 290 00:12:23,851 --> 00:12:25,801 I'm sorry. It was a really 291 00:12:25,853 --> 00:12:27,413 long day, and I... 292 00:12:27,463 --> 00:12:30,033 Mrs. LeRoux, uh, asked us to assess her husband Orson. 293 00:12:30,074 --> 00:12:32,074 She thinks he's possessed. 294 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,950 Unfortunately, he won't talk with us anymore, 295 00:12:34,992 --> 00:12:37,162 but he will talk to you. 296 00:12:37,212 --> 00:12:39,032 Um, he seems to like you. 297 00:12:39,083 --> 00:12:41,513 We want to hire you to help us assess him. 298 00:12:43,044 --> 00:12:45,044 Just to be up front with you, Mr., um... 299 00:12:45,089 --> 00:12:46,359 Acosta.Acosta. 300 00:12:46,395 --> 00:12:47,835 I don't believe in all that-- 301 00:12:47,875 --> 00:12:49,395 devils and possession. 302 00:12:49,441 --> 00:12:51,611 That's okay. 303 00:12:51,661 --> 00:12:53,221 See, the problem with my job is 304 00:12:53,271 --> 00:12:56,881 that possession looks a lot like insanity, and... 305 00:12:56,927 --> 00:12:59,847 insanity looks a lot like possession. 306 00:12:59,887 --> 00:13:03,547 I need someone to help me distinguish between the two. 307 00:13:03,586 --> 00:13:06,106 You don't care that I don't believe? 308 00:13:06,154 --> 00:13:08,244 I do not. 309 00:13:13,422 --> 00:13:15,902 How much do you pay? 310 00:13:15,946 --> 00:13:17,646 311 00:13:33,355 --> 00:13:35,875 EMILY: I woke up in the middle of the night, 312 00:13:35,923 --> 00:13:37,703 and Orson wasn't in bed, 313 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:39,840 so I went downstairs. 314 00:13:42,059 --> 00:13:44,279 He had just gotten back from the hospital 315 00:13:44,322 --> 00:13:47,802 after he fell at work, so I was worried. 316 00:13:47,848 --> 00:13:49,938 He was talking to himself. 317 00:13:49,980 --> 00:13:52,120 I shook him, but he didn't wake up. 318 00:13:52,156 --> 00:13:54,506 And this is what led you to believe he was possessed? 319 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:58,300 No. He always talked to himself, 320 00:13:58,336 --> 00:14:00,906 but this time, someone talked back. 321 00:14:00,948 --> 00:14:02,518 That's why 322 00:14:02,558 --> 00:14:04,428 I called your parish.BEN: What did this, 323 00:14:04,473 --> 00:14:06,733 uh, voice... sound like? 324 00:14:06,779 --> 00:14:08,479 Quiet. 325 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,350 Like a whisper. I recorded it if that helps. 326 00:14:14,657 --> 00:14:16,487 Yes, it-it does. 327 00:14:16,528 --> 00:14:19,058 This was a few nights in a row, so I recorded 328 00:14:19,096 --> 00:14:21,536 the last one. 329 00:14:22,883 --> 00:14:24,753 EMILY: Orson? 330 00:14:24,797 --> 00:14:25,887 Baby, what's wrong? 331 00:14:27,017 --> 00:14:29,017 Orson? 332 00:14:31,282 --> 00:14:33,062 [guttural whispering] 333 00:14:38,986 --> 00:14:40,116 [guttural breathing] 334 00:14:43,077 --> 00:14:44,867 [whispering continuing] 335 00:14:58,527 --> 00:14:59,707 ORSON: Turn that off. 336 00:14:59,745 --> 00:15:01,355 I'm gonna need your new pass... 337 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:03,189 [phone beeps off] 338 00:15:04,794 --> 00:15:06,794 So, uh, 339 00:15:06,839 --> 00:15:10,059 this is what-- a haunting? 340 00:15:10,104 --> 00:15:11,624 It's an infestation. 341 00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:13,420 What's that? 342 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:15,810 A haunting. 343 00:15:18,329 --> 00:15:20,469 I thought this was about possession. 344 00:15:20,505 --> 00:15:22,075 Well, the theory is 345 00:15:22,116 --> 00:15:24,246 that an infestation leads to a possession. 346 00:15:24,292 --> 00:15:27,252 First, the, uh, demon takes over the house, 347 00:15:27,295 --> 00:15:29,385 and then it takes over the person. 348 00:15:29,427 --> 00:15:30,777 Supposedly. 349 00:15:30,820 --> 00:15:32,260 You don't believe in it? 350 00:15:34,650 --> 00:15:36,570 I believe it pays the rent. 351 00:15:38,610 --> 00:15:40,010 [clears throat] 352 00:15:42,353 --> 00:15:43,963 Are you good? 353 00:15:44,007 --> 00:15:45,837 [door closes] 354 00:15:45,878 --> 00:15:47,878 Why do you want me doing this? 355 00:15:47,924 --> 00:15:49,704 I want your honest opinion. 356 00:15:49,752 --> 00:15:51,232 I want your skepticism. 357 00:15:51,275 --> 00:15:53,275 Well, then... 358 00:15:53,321 --> 00:15:54,751 You're leading her on. 359 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,020 In what way? 360 00:15:57,064 --> 00:15:58,544 Well, she's desperate for these killings 361 00:15:58,587 --> 00:16:00,767 to have some supernatural meaning, 362 00:16:00,806 --> 00:16:02,416 but he didn't murder seven people 363 00:16:02,460 --> 00:16:03,940 because there's whispering in his house. 364 00:16:03,984 --> 00:16:05,114 Then we'll find that out. 365 00:16:05,159 --> 00:16:06,769 Yeah, you keep saying that, 366 00:16:06,812 --> 00:16:08,592 but I don't need to check every broomstick 367 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,340 to know that broomsticks don't fly. 368 00:16:10,381 --> 00:16:12,251 [chuckles] 369 00:16:12,296 --> 00:16:14,256 Do you think science can answer every question? 370 00:16:15,473 --> 00:16:17,213 Yes, I do. 371 00:16:17,258 --> 00:16:19,048 I do. Just not all at once. 372 00:16:19,086 --> 00:16:22,006 So there are no mysteries? No miracles? 373 00:16:23,699 --> 00:16:26,049 A doctor creates a hearing aid for a deaf man 374 00:16:26,093 --> 00:16:27,703 who hears music for the first time. 375 00:16:27,746 --> 00:16:29,706 That's a miracle. 376 00:16:29,748 --> 00:16:33,098 Philae probe lands on a comet 100 million miles away, 377 00:16:33,143 --> 00:16:35,923 a comet traveling at 11,000 miles per hour. 378 00:16:35,972 --> 00:16:37,192 That is a miracle. 379 00:16:37,234 --> 00:16:38,714 They just happen to exist. 380 00:16:38,757 --> 00:16:40,327 They're real. 381 00:16:40,368 --> 00:16:44,068 But ghosts and demons and that thing on her phone 382 00:16:44,111 --> 00:16:46,281 or whatever it was-- 383 00:16:46,330 --> 00:16:48,380 I don't know what to do with that. 384 00:16:50,682 --> 00:16:54,032 Ten years ago I decided to drop out and travel the world, 385 00:16:54,077 --> 00:16:55,777 and the farther I got from America, 386 00:16:55,818 --> 00:16:59,218 the more I realized how little I knew. 387 00:16:59,256 --> 00:17:02,916 I saw a shaman in Kyzyl transfer his soul to a dying child. 388 00:17:04,479 --> 00:17:07,009 I saw a woman in the Indus Plains come back to life 389 00:17:07,047 --> 00:17:09,047 after drowning for 20 minutes. 390 00:17:09,092 --> 00:17:12,182 Science is only good for repeatable phenomenon. 391 00:17:12,226 --> 00:17:14,056 And most of life-- 392 00:17:14,097 --> 00:17:16,837 the most interesting parts-- 393 00:17:16,882 --> 00:17:18,232 don't repeat. 394 00:17:18,275 --> 00:17:20,495 So science doesn't recognize it. 395 00:17:21,844 --> 00:17:23,674 Hmm. 396 00:17:29,156 --> 00:17:30,896 You think it's medical? 397 00:17:30,940 --> 00:17:33,380 Well, he had a fall that put him in the hospital 398 00:17:33,421 --> 00:17:34,891 right before the killings. 399 00:17:34,944 --> 00:17:36,374 That was news to me. 400 00:17:36,424 --> 00:17:38,384 Meaning?There are injuries 401 00:17:38,426 --> 00:17:40,346 to the frontal lobe that can result in violent behavior. 402 00:17:40,384 --> 00:17:42,034 And seizures that look like possession. 403 00:17:43,257 --> 00:17:45,307 I don't know. 404 00:17:46,521 --> 00:17:48,601 I'm checking into it. 405 00:17:50,090 --> 00:17:52,140 [man shouting in Latin] 406 00:17:52,179 --> 00:17:53,919 [continues shouting] 407 00:18:18,466 --> 00:18:21,036 The most dangerous situations are never the ones you'd think. 408 00:18:21,077 --> 00:18:23,207 [jet whooshes past]It's never the, uh, 409 00:18:23,253 --> 00:18:27,123 Mexican drug war or being embedded in Afghanistan. 410 00:18:27,170 --> 00:18:30,310 It's the food poisoning in Pakistan. 411 00:18:31,696 --> 00:18:32,746 [taps keyboard] 412 00:18:33,959 --> 00:18:36,049 [soft whooshing] 413 00:18:36,092 --> 00:18:37,832 [gentle clattering] 414 00:18:48,452 --> 00:18:50,492 [whispering] 415 00:19:07,036 --> 00:19:08,776 [rain falling outside] 416 00:19:21,964 --> 00:19:23,964 Oh, this is stupid. 417 00:19:25,707 --> 00:19:27,497 [whispering] 418 00:19:37,284 --> 00:19:38,984 [whispering] 419 00:19:55,606 --> 00:19:56,736 [low, guttural growling] 420 00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:07,357 It's not real. 421 00:20:07,401 --> 00:20:10,181 It's just a dream. 422 00:20:11,274 --> 00:20:12,924 [growling continuing] 423 00:20:37,648 --> 00:20:40,048 Your eyes are open. 424 00:20:40,085 --> 00:20:42,305 That's a weird way to dream... 425 00:20:42,349 --> 00:20:43,749 Kristen. 426 00:20:45,003 --> 00:20:46,873 It's a night terror. 427 00:20:46,918 --> 00:20:48,618 Oh. 428 00:20:48,659 --> 00:20:50,619 Of course I am. 429 00:20:50,661 --> 00:20:53,311 Tell me, can a night terror do this? 430 00:20:55,187 --> 00:20:57,717 [urinating] 431 00:20:57,755 --> 00:20:59,665 Just close your eyes. 432 00:20:59,714 --> 00:21:01,674 Just press your eyes shut. 433 00:21:01,716 --> 00:21:02,846 You'll wake up. 434 00:21:04,284 --> 00:21:05,804 Not yet. 435 00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:08,380 Keep them open. 436 00:21:11,203 --> 00:21:12,633 Hi. 437 00:21:12,683 --> 00:21:14,983 George is the name. Good to meet you. 438 00:21:15,033 --> 00:21:18,033 [gasps] Are you wearing any underwear? 439 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,610 For your new boss, David? 440 00:21:23,825 --> 00:21:26,215 Hey, you got a scar down here. 441 00:21:26,262 --> 00:21:27,652 What is that, a cesarean? 442 00:21:27,698 --> 00:21:30,268 [yelling] 443 00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:31,580 [yelling continues] 444 00:21:31,615 --> 00:21:33,005 Mom? Mom, wake up! Mom? Mom?Mom, wake up! 445 00:21:33,051 --> 00:21:34,571 [all clamoring] 446 00:21:34,618 --> 00:21:35,708 [grunts]Mom, wake up! 447 00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:37,500 You were screaming. 448 00:21:37,534 --> 00:21:39,234 You woke us up.Oh, my gosh. 449 00:21:39,275 --> 00:21:41,665 I'm sorry. I... I had a nightmare. 450 00:21:41,712 --> 00:21:44,362 What a horrible... 451 00:21:44,411 --> 00:21:46,491 LYNN: What's wrong? What is it? 452 00:21:55,204 --> 00:21:57,514 [sighs] Nothing. 453 00:21:57,554 --> 00:21:59,514 I just left the window open. 454 00:21:59,556 --> 00:22:02,296 LAURA: I get nightmares, too, sometimes. 455 00:22:02,342 --> 00:22:05,302 And my teacher punches me in the face, and... 456 00:22:05,345 --> 00:22:06,565 That doesn't happen.Also, it does... 457 00:22:06,607 --> 00:22:08,397 Yes, it does!Yeah, it does. 458 00:22:08,435 --> 00:22:10,615 [overlapping chatter]LAURA: I'm seven years old, 459 00:22:10,654 --> 00:22:13,224 so what's the point?![overlapping chatter] 460 00:22:13,265 --> 00:22:15,355 [indistinct, overlapping chatter] 461 00:22:15,398 --> 00:22:17,358 All right. I'm okay, guys. 462 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,750 Back to bed.No. 463 00:22:18,793 --> 00:22:20,353 I'm sleeping here. 464 00:22:20,403 --> 00:22:22,533 Me, too!I'm so tired, Mom. 465 00:22:22,579 --> 00:22:24,109 [overlapping chatter] 466 00:22:24,146 --> 00:22:25,796 Come on, Mom.Yeah, right here. 467 00:22:25,843 --> 00:22:27,973 All right, but just one night. 468 00:22:28,019 --> 00:22:29,499 Okay.Yes! 469 00:22:29,543 --> 00:22:31,063 [roars][girls scream] 470 00:22:31,109 --> 00:22:33,989 [all laughing]Mom! 471 00:22:34,025 --> 00:22:35,675 LAURA: Mom.[overlapping chatter] 472 00:22:37,202 --> 00:22:38,982 [shushing] 473 00:23:00,574 --> 00:23:02,184 A night terror? Hmm.KRISTEN: Yeah. 474 00:23:02,227 --> 00:23:04,447 You ever had a night terror before?No, never. 475 00:23:04,491 --> 00:23:06,491 How do you know it wasn't just a nightmare? 476 00:23:06,536 --> 00:23:08,496 My eyes were open and I had sleep paralysis. 477 00:23:08,538 --> 00:23:10,148 I also saw a shadow figure. 478 00:23:10,192 --> 00:23:12,232 In the literature, there's always talk of shadow figures. 479 00:23:12,281 --> 00:23:13,581 Incubus? 480 00:23:13,630 --> 00:23:15,070 He took off my underwear, 481 00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:18,470 talked about my cesarean and my... 482 00:23:18,505 --> 00:23:21,075 relationship with my boss, so yeah. 483 00:23:21,116 --> 00:23:23,986 Your boss at the D.A.'s office?Yes. 484 00:23:24,032 --> 00:23:25,812 No. It's a different job. 485 00:23:27,775 --> 00:23:29,385 What job? 486 00:23:29,429 --> 00:23:32,699 Well, I'm working with someone who's, um... 487 00:23:34,564 --> 00:23:36,214 ...looking into demonic possession 488 00:23:36,261 --> 00:23:37,871 and its effect on crime. 489 00:23:37,915 --> 00:23:39,695 Really?Yeah. 490 00:23:39,743 --> 00:23:41,483 How does that work? 491 00:23:41,528 --> 00:23:42,968 I'm not sure. 492 00:23:43,007 --> 00:23:45,057 I'm, uh, only doing it temporarily 493 00:23:45,096 --> 00:23:46,886 to pay off my student loans.Okay. 494 00:23:46,924 --> 00:23:50,014 Uh, look, i-it's very odd for night terrors 495 00:23:50,058 --> 00:23:51,718 to start in your 30s, all right? My guess 496 00:23:51,755 --> 00:23:55,065 is it's a momentary disruption in N3 sleep cycles. 497 00:23:55,106 --> 00:23:57,066 I'm gonna prescribe you some diazepam, 498 00:23:57,108 --> 00:23:58,718 and I just want you to take it if... 499 00:23:58,762 --> 00:24:01,462 Here is how it works. 500 00:24:01,504 --> 00:24:05,244 The soap clogs the dishwasher filter. 501 00:24:05,290 --> 00:24:08,120 That creates what's, uh, called an embouchure hole. 502 00:24:08,163 --> 00:24:09,903 That's kind of what you see in a flute. 503 00:24:09,947 --> 00:24:11,947 And when that hole gets smaller, 504 00:24:11,993 --> 00:24:13,343 it creates a sound. 505 00:24:13,385 --> 00:24:14,605 So you're saying that the dishwasher 506 00:24:14,648 --> 00:24:16,438 caused the whispering? 507 00:24:16,476 --> 00:24:18,526 I'm saying that the dishwasher 508 00:24:18,565 --> 00:24:21,615 created this sound. 509 00:24:23,787 --> 00:24:25,787 [guttural whispering] 510 00:24:28,488 --> 00:24:29,838 Is that what you heard? 511 00:24:34,668 --> 00:24:37,198 You killed Santa Claus for her. 512 00:24:37,235 --> 00:24:39,065 Yeah. They never like it, none of them. 513 00:24:39,107 --> 00:24:41,767 You do this a lot? Kill Santa?More now 514 00:24:41,805 --> 00:24:43,285 since Ghost Hunters. 515 00:24:43,328 --> 00:24:46,248 People watch that show, they jump at every sound. 516 00:24:46,288 --> 00:24:48,288 I never heard whispering in my house until last night. 517 00:24:48,333 --> 00:24:49,503 That's the power of suggestion. 518 00:24:49,552 --> 00:24:51,292 There's an explanation for everything, 519 00:24:51,336 --> 00:24:54,466 but people would rather believe in ghosts, demons. 520 00:24:54,514 --> 00:24:56,124 So, how'd you get connected to this job? 521 00:24:56,167 --> 00:24:57,557 David. 522 00:24:57,604 --> 00:24:59,434 I was a contractor at the rectory. 523 00:24:59,475 --> 00:25:00,825 He asked me to help. 524 00:25:00,868 --> 00:25:02,828 Why's he do it? 525 00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:04,790 BEN: David? 526 00:25:04,828 --> 00:25:06,138 He is a believer. 527 00:25:06,177 --> 00:25:08,007 He's bought the whole thing. 528 00:25:08,049 --> 00:25:10,839 Uh, devils, angels, demons, Satan. 529 00:25:10,878 --> 00:25:12,618 Hmm.He's training to be a priest. 530 00:25:12,662 --> 00:25:14,092 Really? 531 00:25:14,142 --> 00:25:17,842 Yeah. Two years into a five-year program. 532 00:25:17,885 --> 00:25:19,885 Mm-hmm, okay.Don't give up. 533 00:25:22,106 --> 00:25:23,156 [grunts] 534 00:25:23,194 --> 00:25:25,194 I don't know if I like this-- 535 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,120 you two working together. 536 00:25:27,155 --> 00:25:28,505 I feel ganged up on. 537 00:25:28,548 --> 00:25:30,818 Yeah, that's too bad.Wow. 538 00:25:30,854 --> 00:25:32,204 You're in a bad mood. 539 00:25:32,247 --> 00:25:34,337 No, I'm just not working with the court anymore, 540 00:25:34,379 --> 00:25:36,819 so I don't have to pretend to be impartial. 541 00:25:38,645 --> 00:25:40,685 Kristen and I have a lot in common. 542 00:25:40,734 --> 00:25:42,774 She likes to walk up to the edge of the cliff 543 00:25:42,823 --> 00:25:44,653 and stare off into the abyss. 544 00:25:44,694 --> 00:25:46,654 She said you spoke Latin last time. 545 00:25:46,696 --> 00:25:47,746 I don't speak Latin. 546 00:25:47,784 --> 00:25:49,084 Does Roy? 547 00:25:49,133 --> 00:25:50,653 Who's Roy? 548 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:53,530 The demon that speaks through you. 549 00:25:53,573 --> 00:25:55,053 Never heard of him. 550 00:25:58,055 --> 00:25:59,575 Do you remember this from last time? 551 00:26:03,887 --> 00:26:04,887 Aah! 552 00:26:04,932 --> 00:26:07,322 [laughs] 553 00:26:07,369 --> 00:26:10,419 Was that scary enough for you? 554 00:26:10,459 --> 00:26:12,549 What's this, another test?Write out the alphabet 555 00:26:12,592 --> 00:26:14,332 until you get to the 14th letter. 556 00:26:14,376 --> 00:26:15,986 Why? 557 00:26:16,030 --> 00:26:17,600 Humor me. Or don't. 558 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,780 We'll just go home early. 559 00:26:18,815 --> 00:26:20,645 You like having an audience. 560 00:26:20,687 --> 00:26:23,037 The worst thing would be for you to lose your audience. 561 00:26:27,694 --> 00:26:29,214 DAVID: What does this tell us? 562 00:26:29,260 --> 00:26:31,180 KRISTEN: Well, there's some drooping in the penmanship. 563 00:26:31,219 --> 00:26:33,659 That could be from inflammation or... 564 00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:35,100 nothing. 565 00:26:35,136 --> 00:26:36,876 I'd need more tests. 566 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,800 Okay. I'll arrange for some more time tomorrow. 567 00:26:39,836 --> 00:26:41,186 Good.Good work. 568 00:26:41,229 --> 00:26:43,059 Thanks. 569 00:26:44,188 --> 00:26:46,538 So, you're, uh... 570 00:26:46,582 --> 00:26:49,932 you're training to be a-a priest? 571 00:26:49,977 --> 00:26:52,027 I am. 572 00:26:52,066 --> 00:26:54,376 Does that surprise you? 573 00:26:54,416 --> 00:26:57,676 I don't know, you... just don't seem like the type. 574 00:26:57,724 --> 00:26:59,554 Well, I kicked around the world a lot. 575 00:26:59,595 --> 00:27:02,035 Felt like the right time to commit to something. 576 00:27:02,076 --> 00:27:03,906 And you? 577 00:27:03,947 --> 00:27:06,777 You don't seem like a thrill-seeking type. 578 00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:09,260 Oh, I'm... I'm not. 579 00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:11,790 That's not what Climbingmagazine says. 580 00:27:11,825 --> 00:27:13,865 Oh. [chuckles] 581 00:27:13,914 --> 00:27:15,874 You did a little googling?It says you're one of the first women 582 00:27:15,916 --> 00:27:18,616 to climb El Capitan's nose in one day. 583 00:27:18,658 --> 00:27:20,708 And you, uh... 584 00:27:20,747 --> 00:27:23,097 you don't like the food in Pakistan, I hear. 585 00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:25,150 [laughs]: Oh, God. 586 00:27:25,186 --> 00:27:26,886 That interview. 587 00:27:32,933 --> 00:27:36,373 You know I'm just doing this to pay off my student loans, right? 588 00:27:36,414 --> 00:27:37,854 I do. 589 00:27:37,894 --> 00:27:39,634 [keys jingle] 590 00:27:40,810 --> 00:27:42,210 See you tomorrow? 591 00:27:42,246 --> 00:27:43,766 Yeah, absolutely. 592 00:27:47,687 --> 00:27:49,557 593 00:28:03,050 --> 00:28:05,060 594 00:28:26,726 --> 00:28:28,726 [low, guttural growling] 595 00:28:44,352 --> 00:28:46,392 It's George. 596 00:28:46,441 --> 00:28:48,131 Did I wake you? 597 00:28:56,059 --> 00:28:57,499 You're not real. 598 00:28:57,539 --> 00:29:01,159 I have 567 true or false statements. 599 00:29:01,195 --> 00:29:02,805 Answer as honestly as you can. 600 00:29:02,849 --> 00:29:04,509 There are no wrong answers, 601 00:29:04,546 --> 00:29:07,156 but just to make this fun... 602 00:29:07,201 --> 00:29:09,761 a finger for every wrong answer. 603 00:29:09,812 --> 00:29:11,202 These are my thoughts. 604 00:29:11,248 --> 00:29:13,338 I'm scaring myself with my thoughts. 605 00:29:13,381 --> 00:29:15,771 "I like mechanics magazines."You're not here. 606 00:29:15,818 --> 00:29:17,348 I'm scaring myself.Kristen, 607 00:29:17,385 --> 00:29:18,515 you have to answer. 608 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,740 "I like mechanics magazines." 609 00:29:24,435 --> 00:29:26,395 Okay. 610 00:29:26,437 --> 00:29:29,047 [screams] 611 00:29:29,092 --> 00:29:31,052 [whimpers] False. 612 00:29:32,313 --> 00:29:33,963 Good. 613 00:29:35,185 --> 00:29:37,055 [gasps] 614 00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:39,720 "I have diarrhea once or more a month." 615 00:29:39,755 --> 00:29:40,845 False. 616 00:29:40,887 --> 00:29:44,157 "I was flirting with David Acosta today 617 00:29:44,194 --> 00:29:46,544 even though I'm married." 618 00:29:46,588 --> 00:29:48,198 False. 619 00:29:48,242 --> 00:29:50,282 Sorry, Kristen. 620 00:29:50,331 --> 00:29:52,681 Wrong answer. 621 00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:53,594 [whimpers] 622 00:29:54,770 --> 00:29:57,340 Oh. 623 00:29:57,381 --> 00:29:59,731 "Oh, boo-hoo, 624 00:29:59,775 --> 00:30:01,385 my finger's gone." 625 00:30:01,429 --> 00:30:03,699 Poor baby. 626 00:30:03,735 --> 00:30:05,175 Lightning round. 627 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,750 "I am attracted to Acosta... 628 00:30:09,785 --> 00:30:11,005 sexually." 629 00:30:11,047 --> 00:30:13,307 True. 630 00:30:13,354 --> 00:30:15,314 "I'm a lapsed Catholic, 631 00:30:15,356 --> 00:30:17,186 "a lapsed mountain climber, 632 00:30:17,227 --> 00:30:18,707 "a lapsed psychologist. 633 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:22,320 Everything I do, I quit." 634 00:30:23,843 --> 00:30:25,803 Kristen? 635 00:30:25,845 --> 00:30:28,105 Come on. 636 00:30:28,151 --> 00:30:29,631 I can't read it. 637 00:30:30,675 --> 00:30:32,545 What?Wernicke's area 638 00:30:32,590 --> 00:30:34,070 is a region in the brain responsible 639 00:30:34,114 --> 00:30:36,334 for interpreting language, and it's dormant during sleep. 640 00:30:36,377 --> 00:30:39,467 That's why you can't read text in a dream. 641 00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:41,560 This is a dream, 642 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:43,129 and you don't exist. 643 00:30:44,951 --> 00:30:46,901 Well, 644 00:30:46,953 --> 00:30:48,513 if I don't exist, then... 645 00:30:48,563 --> 00:30:51,173 this won't hurt. 646 00:30:51,218 --> 00:30:53,178 [gasps] 647 00:31:05,275 --> 00:31:07,055 Goodbye, George. 648 00:31:08,496 --> 00:31:10,496 [sighs] 649 00:31:16,286 --> 00:31:17,636 KRISTEN: Take your time. Just reproduce the drawing 650 00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:18,859 as best you can. 651 00:31:20,769 --> 00:31:22,949 Your wife asked us to assess 652 00:31:22,989 --> 00:31:25,999 whether a supernatural force was influencing you, Orson. 653 00:31:26,035 --> 00:31:27,865 We're here to help you. 654 00:31:30,648 --> 00:31:32,308 Look, we can always go home, 655 00:31:32,346 --> 00:31:33,866 but then you've lost your audience. 656 00:31:47,187 --> 00:31:48,927 [whispering]: What's he doing? 657 00:31:53,149 --> 00:31:55,289 Roy? 658 00:31:55,325 --> 00:31:58,245 Non solus sum. 659 00:31:58,285 --> 00:32:01,245 Sexaginta nostri sunt. 660 00:32:01,288 --> 00:32:03,768 60 other than yourself? 661 00:32:03,812 --> 00:32:06,242 Yes. 662 00:32:06,293 --> 00:32:08,813 And you know one of them. 663 00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:10,170 I do? 664 00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:11,960 No, not you, idiot. 665 00:32:14,692 --> 00:32:16,822 Her. 666 00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:19,138 Oh, well, that's too bad, 'cause I don't believe in demons. 667 00:32:20,176 --> 00:32:22,356 Well, they believe in you. 668 00:32:24,398 --> 00:32:26,878 Especially the one last night. 669 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,370 What are you talking about? 670 00:32:33,624 --> 00:32:35,274 George. 671 00:32:36,453 --> 00:32:38,283 How was he? 672 00:32:39,717 --> 00:32:41,677 Yes. 673 00:32:41,719 --> 00:32:44,989 David doesn't know about George, does he? 674 00:32:46,420 --> 00:32:49,210 But I do. 675 00:32:49,249 --> 00:32:52,869 Your little late-night visitor. 676 00:32:52,904 --> 00:32:55,124 Red eyes. 677 00:32:55,168 --> 00:32:58,218 The bad teeth. 678 00:32:58,258 --> 00:33:02,088 Kissing your little cesarean scar. 679 00:33:02,131 --> 00:33:04,041 Your panties. 680 00:33:04,090 --> 00:33:06,570 How cute. 681 00:33:06,614 --> 00:33:09,924 And he's going to visit you tonight 682 00:33:09,965 --> 00:33:13,405 and every single night. 683 00:33:13,447 --> 00:33:15,667 Collos filiarum 684 00:33:15,710 --> 00:33:18,800 tuarum jugulabit Georgiu... 685 00:33:20,845 --> 00:33:22,585 What was that about? 686 00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:24,380 Who's George?I don't know. 687 00:33:24,414 --> 00:33:25,674 How could he have known? 688 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,730 Known what? 689 00:33:26,764 --> 00:33:29,204 A shadow figure was in my dream. 690 00:33:29,245 --> 00:33:30,765 Called himself George. 691 00:33:30,812 --> 00:33:34,032 He talked about my underwear, my scar. 692 00:33:34,076 --> 00:33:35,256 Did you tell anybody about this? 693 00:33:35,295 --> 00:33:36,775 No. 694 00:33:36,818 --> 00:33:38,038 No one. 695 00:33:40,648 --> 00:33:42,178 What'd he say in Latin at the end? 696 00:33:44,956 --> 00:33:48,006 Tell me. 697 00:33:48,047 --> 00:33:49,697 "George will slash the throats of your daughters." 698 00:33:53,008 --> 00:33:55,838 Sometimes the devil just says things to provoke. 699 00:33:58,492 --> 00:34:00,402 It just doesn't make sense. 700 00:34:01,495 --> 00:34:03,065 I know you believe in this stuff. 701 00:34:03,105 --> 00:34:04,585 I don't. 702 00:34:04,628 --> 00:34:06,808 How could he have known? 703 00:34:12,854 --> 00:34:14,944 I think I know what happened. 704 00:34:14,986 --> 00:34:16,776 705 00:34:25,388 --> 00:34:28,128 [indistinct chatter nearby] 706 00:34:28,174 --> 00:34:29,564 Who'd you talk to? 707 00:34:29,610 --> 00:34:31,140 Kristen. Wh... 708 00:34:31,177 --> 00:34:32,657 E-Excuse me. Could you come back? 709 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:34,360 No, I need to know now. 710 00:34:34,397 --> 00:34:36,357 Who'd you talk to about my session yesterday? 711 00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:39,969 Excuse me, Judy. I'm sorry. 712 00:34:40,011 --> 00:34:42,101 I never told anyone about our session. 713 00:34:42,144 --> 00:34:44,054 Well, someone knew what I told you about-- the shadow figure, 714 00:34:44,103 --> 00:34:45,843 my thoughts on my boss-- and you're the only one I've told. 715 00:34:45,887 --> 00:34:47,147 Well, it didn't come from me. 716 00:34:47,193 --> 00:34:49,153 I-I have... would never say anything 717 00:34:49,195 --> 00:34:50,805 to anybody about that kind of thing. 718 00:34:50,848 --> 00:34:53,198 You take notes during our sessions. Where are they? 719 00:34:53,242 --> 00:34:55,412 They're locked in my file cabinets, they always are. 720 00:34:55,462 --> 00:34:57,502 I'd like to see them.That's not really necessary. 721 00:34:57,551 --> 00:35:00,371 Kurt. I need to see them now. 722 00:35:12,522 --> 00:35:14,082 [horns honking] 723 00:35:14,133 --> 00:35:15,353 Randy. 724 00:35:15,395 --> 00:35:17,305 Who else visited LeRoux in the last two days? 725 00:35:17,353 --> 00:35:20,133 Why?Because someone slipped him stolen information. 726 00:35:20,182 --> 00:35:22,572 I don't know. Just you two. 727 00:35:22,619 --> 00:35:24,359 We have to sign in every time we see him. 728 00:35:24,404 --> 00:35:25,364 Who else signed in? 729 00:35:25,405 --> 00:35:28,015 You know I can't show you that. 730 00:35:28,059 --> 00:35:30,069 Well, I have to sign in again. 731 00:35:36,459 --> 00:35:37,769 Seriously? 732 00:35:37,808 --> 00:35:38,938 Almost done. 733 00:35:41,943 --> 00:35:43,333 Who's L. Townsend? 734 00:35:43,379 --> 00:35:45,819 I couldn't tell you even if I knew. 735 00:35:54,782 --> 00:35:57,472 BOUTELLA: Your Honor, we've already been through this. 736 00:35:57,524 --> 00:35:59,174 Overruled again. 737 00:35:59,221 --> 00:36:01,091 And you've seen this demonic possession 738 00:36:01,136 --> 00:36:02,266 when you interviewed Orson LeRoux? 739 00:36:02,311 --> 00:36:03,311 On three occasions. 740 00:36:03,356 --> 00:36:04,706 And what did he say? 741 00:36:04,748 --> 00:36:05,798 He said... 742 00:36:15,063 --> 00:36:17,193 He said that a demon named Roy 743 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,419 had committed the murders. 744 00:36:19,459 --> 00:36:21,859 We've seen your report, but if you could summarize 745 00:36:21,896 --> 00:36:23,336 your conclusion, Dr. Townsend. 746 00:36:23,376 --> 00:36:24,896 LELAND: Certainly. 747 00:36:24,942 --> 00:36:26,722 In my professional opinion... 748 00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:28,820 749 00:36:28,859 --> 00:36:30,949 Kurt, do you know a forensic psychologist named Townsend? 750 00:36:30,992 --> 00:36:33,122 Robin. 751 00:36:33,168 --> 00:36:34,908 Do we know a Dr. Townsend? 752 00:36:34,952 --> 00:36:36,122 Is that the guy who was here yesterday 753 00:36:36,171 --> 00:36:38,171 about an appointment? 754 00:36:38,217 --> 00:36:40,397 Kristen, there was a man here who wanted to pay for a session, 755 00:36:40,436 --> 00:36:42,086 but he left before we could get his contact info. 756 00:36:42,133 --> 00:36:43,263 What'd he look like? 757 00:36:43,309 --> 00:36:44,269 Brown hair, glasses. 758 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:45,530 About five-eight. 759 00:36:45,572 --> 00:36:46,612 He broke into your filing cabinet, 760 00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:47,970 took your notes, Kurt. 761 00:36:48,009 --> 00:36:49,929 He's got everything I ever told you. 762 00:36:59,716 --> 00:37:00,976 Dr. Townsend. 763 00:37:01,022 --> 00:37:03,802 Ah. Ms. Bouchard. 764 00:37:03,851 --> 00:37:05,281 My loyal opposition. 765 00:37:05,331 --> 00:37:07,981 Why did you give my therapy notes to a serial killer? 766 00:37:16,167 --> 00:37:19,567 You're in way over your head, Ms. Bouchard. 767 00:37:19,606 --> 00:37:23,266 Why don't you leave this to the professionals? 768 00:37:23,305 --> 00:37:24,265 Who are the professionals? 769 00:37:24,306 --> 00:37:26,306 Your boy toy Acosta. 770 00:37:26,352 --> 00:37:27,392 LeRoux. 771 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,660 The 60. 772 00:37:28,702 --> 00:37:30,182 Who are the 60? 773 00:37:30,225 --> 00:37:32,485 People who know who you are now. 774 00:37:32,532 --> 00:37:36,052 Hey, that session number 37 was a juicy one, wasn't it? 775 00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:38,670 "I just want my daughters gone so I can have my freedom." 776 00:37:38,712 --> 00:37:42,282 Just say the word, Kristen, and, poof, they're gone. 777 00:37:42,324 --> 00:37:44,324 No one blames you, no guilt, 778 00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:46,900 just four little caskets. 779 00:37:46,937 --> 00:37:48,507 Go to hell.With pleasure. 780 00:37:48,548 --> 00:37:50,548 In fact, I'll make room for your daughters. 781 00:37:50,593 --> 00:37:52,113 Well, what do we have here? 782 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,600 The priest in training. 783 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,210 Don't you have altar boys to rape? 784 00:37:55,250 --> 00:37:56,340 Leland. 785 00:37:56,382 --> 00:37:57,902 You have no power here. 786 00:37:57,948 --> 00:37:59,258 She doesn't believe. 787 00:37:59,298 --> 00:38:01,738 That's when I'm at my best. 788 00:38:01,778 --> 00:38:03,958 Don't you remember? 789 00:38:03,998 --> 00:38:05,218 Julia. 790 00:38:05,260 --> 00:38:07,750 Crying on her knees. 791 00:38:07,784 --> 00:38:09,784 Weepy little bitch. 792 00:38:09,830 --> 00:38:10,880 [grunts] 793 00:38:10,918 --> 00:38:12,658 [laughing] 794 00:38:14,835 --> 00:38:17,185 [groans] What was that? 795 00:38:17,228 --> 00:38:19,928 Whatever happened to nonviolence? 796 00:38:19,970 --> 00:38:22,280 It's provisional. 797 00:38:22,321 --> 00:38:25,451 Oh, is that what Jesus said? 798 00:38:25,498 --> 00:38:27,418 [laughs] 799 00:38:38,424 --> 00:38:39,724 Now it's my turn. 800 00:38:39,773 --> 00:38:41,603 Are you good? 801 00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:46,870 Who's Julia? 802 00:38:48,825 --> 00:38:50,605 A friend. 803 00:38:53,917 --> 00:38:55,617 This guy Townsend-- you know him? 804 00:38:57,443 --> 00:39:00,573 I've seen him. 805 00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:02,630 In other... 806 00:39:02,665 --> 00:39:04,845 guises. 807 00:39:04,885 --> 00:39:06,235 I don't... W-W... 808 00:39:06,277 --> 00:39:07,887 What does that mean? 809 00:39:14,590 --> 00:39:16,420 There are people in this world 810 00:39:16,462 --> 00:39:19,892 who are... connectors. 811 00:39:19,943 --> 00:39:21,723 They influence people. 812 00:39:21,771 --> 00:39:25,641 They have day jobs. Uh, teachers, stockbrokers, 813 00:39:25,688 --> 00:39:28,348 uh... expert witnesses. 814 00:39:28,387 --> 00:39:30,087 They pretend to be normal, 815 00:39:30,127 --> 00:39:31,917 but their real pursuit is... 816 00:39:34,958 --> 00:39:36,178 ...evil. 817 00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:39,400 Encouraging others to do evil. 818 00:39:39,441 --> 00:39:42,091 Y-You don't have to believe in the supernatural 819 00:39:42,139 --> 00:39:44,319 to know that there are people out there who do bad things 820 00:39:44,359 --> 00:39:46,449 and encourage others to do bad things 821 00:39:46,492 --> 00:39:48,402 for the sheer pleasure of it. 822 00:39:48,450 --> 00:39:51,150 Psychopaths.Yes. 823 00:39:51,192 --> 00:39:54,232 This is where our beliefs overlap. 824 00:39:54,282 --> 00:39:56,232 Because that man is a psychopath 825 00:39:56,284 --> 00:39:57,984 who feels less alone 826 00:39:58,025 --> 00:40:00,805 when he gets others to do what he does. 827 00:40:05,424 --> 00:40:07,994 The world is getting worse 828 00:40:08,035 --> 00:40:11,035 because evil is no longer isolated. 829 00:40:11,081 --> 00:40:12,821 Bad people are talking to each other. 830 00:40:14,476 --> 00:40:17,046 They're connected. 831 00:40:17,087 --> 00:40:18,137 Through social media. 832 00:40:18,175 --> 00:40:19,215 Yes. 833 00:40:22,658 --> 00:40:25,798 So you think Townsend connected with LeRoux online? 834 00:40:25,835 --> 00:40:29,665 And encouraged him to kill. 835 00:40:29,709 --> 00:40:30,839 But the police had LeRoux's computer. 836 00:40:30,884 --> 00:40:32,364 There was nothing there. 837 00:40:38,587 --> 00:40:41,417 What did LeRoux say on that recording? 838 00:40:41,460 --> 00:40:43,290 ORSON [on recording]: Turn that off. 839 00:40:43,331 --> 00:40:45,021 I'm gonna need your new pass... 840 00:40:45,072 --> 00:40:48,112 "Password." That's what he was saying. 841 00:40:48,162 --> 00:40:49,772 He needs your new log-in password. 842 00:40:49,816 --> 00:40:51,426 That has nothing to do with possession. 843 00:40:51,470 --> 00:40:53,300 Emily, we think someone was in touch with Orson, 844 00:40:53,341 --> 00:40:54,861 through social media, 845 00:40:54,908 --> 00:40:56,038 encouraging him to do these crimes. 846 00:40:56,083 --> 00:40:57,603 Someone... 847 00:40:57,650 --> 00:40:59,480 demonic. 848 00:41:08,574 --> 00:41:10,744 Ah, just the woman I want to see. 849 00:41:12,795 --> 00:41:14,275 Good afternoon, Mr. LeRoux. 850 00:41:14,318 --> 00:41:16,888 I have 567 true or false statements. 851 00:41:16,930 --> 00:41:18,370 That again? 852 00:41:18,409 --> 00:41:19,719 I like the picture of the dog better. 853 00:41:19,759 --> 00:41:21,159 DAVID: It's your last test. 854 00:41:21,195 --> 00:41:23,375 Well, hello to you, too, David. 855 00:41:23,414 --> 00:41:25,324 I should tell you that Kristen 856 00:41:25,373 --> 00:41:27,333 thinks about you all the time. 857 00:41:27,375 --> 00:41:30,205 Dirty, disgusting sexual fantasies. 858 00:41:30,247 --> 00:41:31,637 True or false? "I wake up every morning 859 00:41:31,684 --> 00:41:32,644 feeling refreshed and optimistic." 860 00:41:32,685 --> 00:41:35,385 Answer it or we'll leave. 861 00:41:35,426 --> 00:41:38,906 True, but I prefer the diarrhea question. 862 00:41:38,952 --> 00:41:41,512 "I use my wife's e-mail account to avoid detection." 863 00:41:44,958 --> 00:41:46,658 True or false, Orson? 864 00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:49,529 Where are you getting this? 865 00:41:49,571 --> 00:41:50,911 DAVID: Your wife's computer. 866 00:41:50,964 --> 00:41:53,054 She gave us your password. 867 00:41:54,271 --> 00:41:56,011 False."I logged on 868 00:41:56,056 --> 00:41:59,146 "to 4chan and talked about my fantasies of killing 869 00:41:59,189 --> 00:42:01,539 and necrophilia."False. 870 00:42:01,583 --> 00:42:03,933 "That's where Leland Townsend found me and sent me 871 00:42:03,977 --> 00:42:05,287 these photos." 872 00:42:05,326 --> 00:42:07,456 None of this is true. 873 00:42:07,502 --> 00:42:09,542 I want back in my cell. Guard! 874 00:42:09,591 --> 00:42:11,411 You get used to that cell, Orson. 875 00:42:11,462 --> 00:42:13,722 You didn't black out, you knew what you were doing. 876 00:42:13,769 --> 00:42:15,559 You just wanted to get away with rape and murder. 877 00:42:15,597 --> 00:42:17,037 I said I want out! 878 00:42:17,077 --> 00:42:19,077 Oh, you're never getting out.[door opening] 879 00:42:19,122 --> 00:42:21,682 You're 48 years old and prisons have good health care, 880 00:42:21,734 --> 00:42:23,824 so you'll die when you're 100. 881 00:42:23,866 --> 00:42:27,266 That's 18,980 sunrises and sunsets. 882 00:42:27,304 --> 00:42:30,174 And you'll miss every single one of them. 883 00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:31,840 You're a bitch. 884 00:42:31,874 --> 00:42:34,574 Oh, boy, do you have that right. 885 00:42:39,490 --> 00:42:41,240 CORMIER: Where are these from? 886 00:42:41,275 --> 00:42:42,585 His wife's account. 887 00:42:42,624 --> 00:42:44,884 These are e-mails from the defense expert Townsend, 888 00:42:44,931 --> 00:42:47,061 coaching LeRoux on how to win an insanity plea. 889 00:42:47,107 --> 00:42:49,637 How he could use Latin to fake possession. 890 00:42:49,675 --> 00:42:52,545 So this proves I was right, then. 891 00:42:52,591 --> 00:42:54,721 I was right and you were wrong. 892 00:42:54,767 --> 00:42:56,727 Yep. Good job. 893 00:42:56,769 --> 00:42:59,509 [train whistle blows] 894 00:43:01,948 --> 00:43:04,778 By the way, I fixed your whispering problem. 895 00:43:04,820 --> 00:43:07,090 Your pilot light was out on your stove. 896 00:43:07,127 --> 00:43:08,347 Thank you. 897 00:43:08,389 --> 00:43:09,439 You're welcome. 898 00:43:10,739 --> 00:43:12,089 What is this and why? 899 00:43:12,132 --> 00:43:14,692 These are margaritas. 900 00:43:14,743 --> 00:43:17,003 Why would anyone drink this? 901 00:43:17,050 --> 00:43:18,060 KRISTEN: They're fast. 902 00:43:18,094 --> 00:43:19,664 Yeah, so are horse tranquilizers. 903 00:43:19,705 --> 00:43:22,185 Uh. So, Ben. 904 00:43:22,229 --> 00:43:23,669 I've got our next assignment. 905 00:43:23,709 --> 00:43:24,839 Hmm. 906 00:43:24,884 --> 00:43:26,314 And it's not demonic possession. 907 00:43:26,363 --> 00:43:27,403 What is it? 908 00:43:27,451 --> 00:43:29,191 A miracle. 909 00:43:29,236 --> 00:43:30,676 And there's video. 910 00:43:30,716 --> 00:43:31,846 There's a video of the miracle? 911 00:43:31,891 --> 00:43:34,061 Mm.Of course there is. 912 00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:35,730 Where is this? 913 00:43:35,764 --> 00:43:37,024 A hospital. 914 00:43:37,070 --> 00:43:38,250 So it's a medical miracle. 915 00:43:38,288 --> 00:43:39,418 Yeah, you could say that. 916 00:43:39,463 --> 00:43:41,853 Mm. Is she joining us? 917 00:43:41,901 --> 00:43:42,941 I don't know. 918 00:43:42,989 --> 00:43:44,209 Are you joining us? 919 00:43:47,384 --> 00:43:50,034 I mean, I could have a look. 920 00:43:50,083 --> 00:43:52,043 Captioning sponsored by CBS 921 00:43:52,085 --> 00:43:54,085 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 96440

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