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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:21,934 --> 00:00:25,460 [Instrumental music] 4 00:00:25,634 --> 00:00:28,419 KIRK: This is the big mother question for people, 5 00:00:28,593 --> 00:00:29,899 no matter what your background is 6 00:00:30,073 --> 00:00:31,727 or what your belief systems are: 7 00:00:31,901 --> 00:00:34,338 is there any real justice in the world 8 00:00:34,512 --> 00:00:36,732 and why do bad things happen to good people? 9 00:00:36,906 --> 00:00:38,864 If there is a God of love and power 10 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:41,911 and he can heal and he can do miracles, 11 00:00:42,085 --> 00:00:44,653 why doesn't he heal all the amputees 12 00:00:44,827 --> 00:00:48,787 and eradicate cancer and pain and suffering 13 00:00:48,961 --> 00:00:51,616 and all these kinds of things? 14 00:00:51,790 --> 00:00:53,488 Where is this God? 15 00:00:53,662 --> 00:00:55,751 And so I want to answer that question based 16 00:00:55,925 --> 00:00:57,883 on what we can know from experience, 17 00:00:58,058 --> 00:00:59,668 and from history, and from God's word. 18 00:00:59,842 --> 00:01:01,931 There's always going to be a question mark 19 00:01:02,105 --> 00:01:03,889 this side of heaven. 20 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:05,282 I think we get to find out 21 00:01:05,456 --> 00:01:07,067 the big answers on the other side 22 00:01:07,241 --> 00:01:11,723 in ways that will, you know, amaze and thrill us. 23 00:01:11,897 --> 00:01:14,726 But for now, how do we get through? 24 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:16,728 How do we deal with it in a way 25 00:01:16,902 --> 00:01:18,948 that doesn't make us want to just crawl into a hole and die 26 00:01:19,122 --> 00:01:22,299 and give up all faith or hope 27 00:01:22,473 --> 00:01:24,823 that God is there and that he cares? 28 00:01:24,997 --> 00:01:27,957 I think, I think about it even more now that I'm a father. 29 00:01:28,131 --> 00:01:29,828 My wife and I have six precious little kids. 30 00:01:30,002 --> 00:01:33,180 There's nothing in the world that I wouldn't give up 31 00:01:33,354 --> 00:01:36,792 to keep them healthy and happy. 32 00:01:36,966 --> 00:01:38,881 And my wife and I have been serving at a camp 33 00:01:39,055 --> 00:01:41,840 for terminally-sick children for the last 20 years 34 00:01:42,014 --> 00:01:46,280 and so we've met over 100 families who are struggling 35 00:01:46,454 --> 00:01:49,326 with things like cancer and terminal illnesses 36 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,721 and this is a question that comes up every summer for us: 37 00:01:52,895 --> 00:01:56,028 Why doesn't God heal my baby girl? 38 00:01:56,203 --> 00:01:58,901 As a dad, I wanna fix things. 39 00:01:59,075 --> 00:02:01,643 I wanna fix problems and the one problem 40 00:02:01,817 --> 00:02:05,386 that I would do anything to be able to fix, I can't fix. 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:11,131 I can't...I can't make this, this cancer go away. 42 00:02:11,305 --> 00:02:12,828 And so, yeah, it's a question 43 00:02:13,002 --> 00:02:14,917 that's been on my mind a long time. 44 00:02:15,091 --> 00:02:25,841 [Vocalizing] ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, ohhhh...♪ 45 00:02:26,015 --> 00:02:29,888 [Instrumental music] 46 00:02:38,114 --> 00:02:42,466 KIRK: Well, actually I got home, I actually got home with Jack. 47 00:02:43,815 --> 00:02:46,166 Um, where were we? 48 00:02:48,994 --> 00:02:51,475 What was... Oh, I was at Living Waters. 49 00:02:53,303 --> 00:02:55,958 Um, we got home in three hours of traffic 50 00:02:56,132 --> 00:02:57,742 and the funny things was, 51 00:02:57,916 --> 00:02:59,744 is that I was talking with Chelsea on the way home 52 00:02:59,918 --> 00:03:02,399 and she was telling me about the day. 53 00:03:02,573 --> 00:03:03,400 And I was telling her about all the things 54 00:03:03,574 --> 00:03:04,575 that we accomplished. 55 00:03:04,749 --> 00:03:06,055 We went down to a local college 56 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:07,535 and were witnessing to these kids. 57 00:03:07,709 --> 00:03:09,276 Had some great witnessing conversations. 58 00:03:09,450 --> 00:03:12,192 Got to share the gospel with them, you know. 59 00:03:12,366 --> 00:03:13,802 They stepped right into an apologetic trap 60 00:03:13,976 --> 00:03:16,239 and I was like, "Yes!" 61 00:03:16,413 --> 00:03:20,112 You know... [chuckles] and a great day of witnessing. 62 00:03:20,287 --> 00:03:23,681 And I get home, Jack was in the house before me, 63 00:03:23,855 --> 00:03:25,683 and as I'm just gathering stuff out of my Jeep he says, 64 00:03:25,857 --> 00:03:28,817 "Dad, Luke said Matt died." 65 00:03:28,991 --> 00:03:30,949 I said, "What?" 66 00:03:31,123 --> 00:03:33,430 And he says, "Well, that's what Luke said." 67 00:03:33,604 --> 00:03:36,390 So I got on my phone and I called, uh, 68 00:03:36,564 --> 00:03:41,873 I called Matt's dad and he answered, "Hello?" 69 00:03:42,047 --> 00:03:44,572 "James, it's Kirk." 70 00:03:44,746 --> 00:03:45,964 "Hey, Kirk." 71 00:03:46,138 --> 00:03:47,531 I said, "What's going on? 72 00:03:47,705 --> 00:03:49,272 I heard something's going on with Matt? 73 00:03:49,446 --> 00:03:52,449 I don't know anything. What happened?" 74 00:03:52,623 --> 00:03:58,107 And he just said, "Well, Matthew went home 75 00:03:58,281 --> 00:04:00,370 to be with the Lord today." 76 00:04:00,544 --> 00:04:04,896 [Somber instrumental music] 77 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:06,420 KIRK: I was like, "Wow." 78 00:04:06,594 --> 00:04:08,073 You know, I was expecting it, 79 00:04:08,248 --> 00:04:10,380 because I knew he was that sick, he was days away, 80 00:04:10,554 --> 00:04:13,427 but, you know, just, you know, you hear that news 81 00:04:13,601 --> 00:04:15,429 and I had just seen him. 82 00:04:15,603 --> 00:04:17,692 So, you know, you get that lump in your throat where, 83 00:04:17,866 --> 00:04:19,824 you know, your throat closes up and you can't talk. 84 00:04:19,998 --> 00:04:22,827 And so he was, he was pretty choked up 85 00:04:23,001 --> 00:04:25,613 and he was just saying how... 86 00:04:25,787 --> 00:04:28,442 he told the story that... [sniffs] 87 00:04:28,616 --> 00:04:29,878 He said, "Yeah, Matt, 88 00:04:30,052 --> 00:04:32,315 Matt went to be with the Lord today." 89 00:04:32,489 --> 00:04:34,970 He said, "He went peacefully, he went quietly." 90 00:04:37,451 --> 00:04:39,409 And he told the story of how, you know, 91 00:04:39,583 --> 00:04:41,890 they were with him pretty much 24/7. 92 00:04:42,064 --> 00:04:43,761 He was sleeping in their bed 93 00:04:43,935 --> 00:04:51,203 and how he had a real hard time breathing last night 94 00:04:51,378 --> 00:04:55,033 and they gave him some medicine to help him sleep. 95 00:04:55,207 --> 00:05:00,604 And then the next day they just left for just a few minutes 96 00:05:00,778 --> 00:05:04,782 to go get some lunch in the living room, in the kitchen, 97 00:05:04,956 --> 00:05:08,090 and their daughter had a funny feeling 98 00:05:08,264 --> 00:05:11,093 and she went back in to check on him. 99 00:05:11,267 --> 00:05:14,966 And she came out and said, "I think Matt's not breathing." 100 00:05:17,186 --> 00:05:19,406 And he was gone. 101 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:25,586 [Somber instrumental music] 102 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,634 KIRK: When I was talking with Matthew's dad he said, 103 00:05:30,808 --> 00:05:34,769 "You know, the hardest part is," he said, 104 00:05:34,943 --> 00:05:39,556 "A couple days ago, Matt was laying in his bed 105 00:05:39,730 --> 00:05:41,210 and I was sitting on the side of his bed 106 00:05:41,384 --> 00:05:46,911 and he looked at me and he said, 'Dad,' 107 00:05:47,085 --> 00:05:49,914 he put his hand on his chest and he said, 108 00:05:50,088 --> 00:05:53,309 'Dad, I feel so weak. 109 00:05:53,483 --> 00:05:56,704 I don't have anything left in here.'" 110 00:05:56,878 --> 00:05:58,923 Then he held up his arms, and he said, 111 00:05:59,097 --> 00:06:01,752 he made a circle with his fingers and said, 112 00:06:01,926 --> 00:06:04,973 "But Dad, my arms are this big." 113 00:06:05,147 --> 00:06:11,936 And he said, "I don't know if I can make it this time, Dad." 114 00:06:12,110 --> 00:06:16,201 'Cause he had been battling cancer for ten years. 115 00:06:16,376 --> 00:06:18,116 And then he looked at his dad, he said, 116 00:06:18,290 --> 00:06:19,988 "He looked me right in the eyes and he said, 117 00:06:20,162 --> 00:06:26,560 'Dad, can you fix me?'" 118 00:06:26,734 --> 00:06:30,607 And his dad said, "Buddy, the only one 119 00:06:30,781 --> 00:06:34,568 who can help me fix you right now is God." 120 00:06:34,742 --> 00:06:38,223 And he said Matthew just looked down 121 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:43,185 and just nodded his head and he knew... 122 00:06:43,359 --> 00:06:47,668 that God was not gonna heal him this time. 123 00:06:58,026 --> 00:07:01,551 KIRK: Of course, the question that we can't help but ask is, 124 00:07:01,725 --> 00:07:04,598 God, why did you let this happen to such a good family? 125 00:07:04,772 --> 00:07:09,559 James and Marcy Sandgren, they love you. 126 00:07:09,733 --> 00:07:11,343 Matthew loves you. 127 00:07:11,518 --> 00:07:13,084 Kylie loves you. 128 00:07:13,258 --> 00:07:14,521 The whole family goes to church every Sunday. 129 00:07:14,695 --> 00:07:16,087 They sing songs. 130 00:07:16,261 --> 00:07:18,002 They're still singing songs on Sunday. 131 00:07:18,176 --> 00:07:19,961 Why didn't you heal their son? 132 00:07:20,135 --> 00:07:21,136 Where are you in this? 133 00:07:21,310 --> 00:07:22,964 Why did you let this happen? 134 00:07:23,138 --> 00:07:25,662 This is the faith-wrecking question of so many people. 135 00:07:25,836 --> 00:07:28,926 This is the question that turns Christians into atheists. 136 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:33,801 Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people 137 00:07:33,975 --> 00:07:37,282 when we know he could stop those bad things? 138 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:39,850 Does it mean that God doesn't exist, like some wanna say? 139 00:07:40,024 --> 00:07:41,852 Does it mean that God does exist, 140 00:07:42,026 --> 00:07:44,638 but that he's not able to stop it? 141 00:07:44,812 --> 00:07:48,337 Or maybe he doesn't know it's gonna happen until it happens. 142 00:07:48,511 --> 00:07:52,472 Or is it that God is able, but that he doesn't care? 143 00:07:52,646 --> 00:07:56,258 Or he's just not listening to you and your prayers. 144 00:07:56,432 --> 00:07:58,086 But this was a good family. 145 00:07:58,260 --> 00:08:00,044 If you can't answer the question, 146 00:08:00,218 --> 00:08:03,831 "Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people," 147 00:08:04,005 --> 00:08:05,876 it can destroy your faith 148 00:08:06,050 --> 00:08:08,705 and prevent you from moving forward in your life. 149 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:10,054 You'll go crazy. 150 00:08:10,228 --> 00:08:12,970 But to answer that question 151 00:08:13,144 --> 00:08:17,148 requires understanding the character and nature of God, 152 00:08:17,322 --> 00:08:21,457 the one who made all this and is allowing these things to happen. 153 00:08:21,631 --> 00:08:24,547 But understanding that is like trying to pour 154 00:08:24,721 --> 00:08:26,506 the entire ocean into this coffee cup. 155 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,595 It just won't fit; it's too much information. 156 00:08:28,769 --> 00:08:30,553 So what do you do? 157 00:08:30,727 --> 00:08:34,905 Well, the best way I know how to get a grip on what God is doing 158 00:08:35,079 --> 00:08:36,690 is looking into the book that he wrote 159 00:08:36,864 --> 00:08:39,693 and understanding that there is an author 160 00:08:39,867 --> 00:08:44,393 who is writing the greatest story in the world. 161 00:08:44,567 --> 00:08:48,266 The great drama of life is being enacted right now 162 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,051 on the stage of this world 163 00:08:50,225 --> 00:08:52,662 and you and I are characters playing roles in this. 164 00:08:52,836 --> 00:08:54,664 And I'm not saying this just because I'm an actor, 165 00:08:54,838 --> 00:08:57,841 it's because that's really what's going on. 166 00:08:58,015 --> 00:09:04,152 And everybody we know, everything we experience, 167 00:09:04,326 --> 00:09:06,807 every mountain, every stream, every ocean, every bird, 168 00:09:06,981 --> 00:09:09,244 every sun, every moon, every star 169 00:09:09,418 --> 00:09:11,681 are props that have been placed strategically 170 00:09:11,855 --> 00:09:15,859 where they are in order to assist 171 00:09:16,033 --> 00:09:20,516 and ultimately make sure that this story is told. 172 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:26,914 And right in the middle of this story written by God, history, 173 00:09:27,088 --> 00:09:29,351 you and I are making real-world choices 174 00:09:29,525 --> 00:09:31,745 with real-world consequences 175 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:37,185 and somehow God is steering the whole thing. 176 00:09:37,359 --> 00:09:39,709 So let's go back to the very beginning of the story. 177 00:09:42,712 --> 00:09:44,627 This is dirt. 178 00:09:44,801 --> 00:09:49,110 God's whole story starts with, with dirt. 179 00:09:49,284 --> 00:09:54,942 [Instrumental music] 180 00:09:55,116 --> 00:09:56,465 KIRK: He makes the dirt. 181 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:59,860 He calls it the land, the earth. 182 00:10:00,034 --> 00:10:07,781 [Instrumental music] 183 00:10:07,955 --> 00:10:12,829 KIRK: And in the dirt, he causes seeds to come forth 184 00:10:13,003 --> 00:10:16,485 that grow into plants and fruit-bearing trees 185 00:10:16,659 --> 00:10:22,709 and then he takes the dirt and forms a man out of it. 186 00:10:22,883 --> 00:10:25,668 And God takes the dirt 187 00:10:25,842 --> 00:10:28,540 and causes a mist to come up from the dirt 188 00:10:28,715 --> 00:10:30,586 and cover the face of the ground. 189 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,330 So he's working with mud and shapes a creature 190 00:10:35,504 --> 00:10:37,985 that is made in his own image. 191 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:40,422 He breathes the breath of life into his nostrils 192 00:10:40,596 --> 00:10:44,208 and he becomes a living creature, 193 00:10:44,382 --> 00:10:46,080 the main character of the story. 194 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,259 [Breath Blowing] 195 00:10:51,433 --> 00:11:01,312 [Instrumental music] 196 00:11:01,486 --> 00:11:16,240 [Instrumental music] 197 00:11:16,414 --> 00:11:21,289 [Instrumental music] 198 00:11:21,463 --> 00:11:36,260 [Instrumental music] 199 00:11:36,434 --> 00:11:41,309 [Instrumental music] 200 00:11:41,483 --> 00:11:52,276 [Instrumental music] 201 00:11:52,450 --> 00:11:55,366 [Loud Crash of Thunder] 202 00:11:58,456 --> 00:12:01,938 KIRK: And this creature is called man, Adam. 203 00:12:02,112 --> 00:12:03,635 He is made of the earth, that's what Adam means, 204 00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:05,942 it means earth, it means dirt. 205 00:12:06,116 --> 00:12:09,685 And he's not like any of the other creatures. 206 00:12:09,859 --> 00:12:11,556 Not only is he made in the image of God, 207 00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:14,603 he's given the authority to rule over every other creature. 208 00:12:14,777 --> 00:12:17,606 He's given privilege and authority 209 00:12:17,780 --> 00:12:20,565 to name every other living creature. 210 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:24,221 I mean, when you have authority to name something 211 00:12:24,395 --> 00:12:28,138 that means you have authority over their life. 212 00:12:28,312 --> 00:12:31,446 And Adam's naming everything, elephants, giraffes. 213 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:34,754 And so here he's, he's naming animals as they go by, 214 00:12:34,928 --> 00:12:37,104 male and female, and male and female. 215 00:12:37,278 --> 00:12:40,107 And it had to have been just a pounding question 216 00:12:40,281 --> 00:12:43,893 in his own mind, "Where is the female for me? 217 00:12:44,067 --> 00:12:45,503 Where is my partner? 218 00:12:45,677 --> 00:12:48,289 Where is the counterpart, someone for me? 219 00:12:48,463 --> 00:12:51,248 Everyone else has one, but I don't." 220 00:12:51,422 --> 00:12:54,948 This was the only thing that was not good in the story, 221 00:12:55,122 --> 00:12:59,648 but Adam had no ability to provide for himself 222 00:12:59,822 --> 00:13:02,651 what he so desperately needed to make it good. 223 00:13:02,825 --> 00:13:05,045 He was incapable of doing that. 224 00:13:05,219 --> 00:13:08,788 He needs someone else to provide that for him. 225 00:13:08,962 --> 00:13:11,965 And then Adam gets put into a deep sleep 226 00:13:12,139 --> 00:13:13,662 and while he's sleeping, 227 00:13:13,836 --> 00:13:18,145 God is busy forming a new creature for him. 228 00:13:18,319 --> 00:13:20,930 It would come out of his side and this creature would be 229 00:13:21,104 --> 00:13:24,804 something that his eyes had never seen, 230 00:13:24,978 --> 00:13:28,590 with a voice that his ears had never heard, 231 00:13:28,764 --> 00:13:31,985 and something his mind never could have imagined. 232 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:36,859 She would be bone of his bones, flesh of his flesh, 233 00:13:37,033 --> 00:13:40,428 and they would be naked and not ashamed. 234 00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:48,392 [Dramatic Crashing Sound] 235 00:13:50,699 --> 00:14:00,535 [Instrumental music] 236 00:14:00,709 --> 00:14:15,550 [Instrumental music] 237 00:14:15,724 --> 00:14:20,555 [Instrumental music] 238 00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:35,526 [Instrumental music] 239 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:40,575 [Instrumental music] 240 00:14:40,749 --> 00:14:55,546 [Instrumental music] 241 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,595 [Instrumental music] 242 00:15:00,769 --> 00:15:15,523 [Instrumental music] 243 00:15:15,697 --> 00:15:20,571 [Instrumental music] 244 00:15:20,745 --> 00:15:35,499 [Instrumental music] 245 00:15:35,673 --> 00:15:40,548 [Instrumental music] 246 00:15:40,722 --> 00:15:54,605 [Instrumental music] 247 00:15:54,779 --> 00:15:56,825 KIRK: So now man is no longer alone. 248 00:15:56,999 --> 00:16:00,002 He has his woman and the two of them are beautifully, 249 00:16:00,176 --> 00:16:03,832 perfectly designed to compliment one another. 250 00:16:04,006 --> 00:16:06,356 The two have become one flesh. 251 00:16:06,530 --> 00:16:09,533 Adam says, "This is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. 252 00:16:09,707 --> 00:16:12,058 She shall be called woman." 253 00:16:12,232 --> 00:16:16,149 He names her and they become one flesh. 254 00:16:16,323 --> 00:16:18,151 So here you have, just think about this, 255 00:16:18,325 --> 00:16:21,023 here you have God taking 256 00:16:21,197 --> 00:16:23,373 the creature he made in his image, 257 00:16:23,547 --> 00:16:26,811 breaking him into two, removing part of him, 258 00:16:26,986 --> 00:16:30,337 he becomes two, and then the two become one. 259 00:16:30,511 --> 00:16:34,428 So one becomes two, two become one, 260 00:16:34,602 --> 00:16:37,692 and that oneness is seen most clearly in the birth 261 00:16:37,866 --> 00:16:40,216 of that union of male and female, 262 00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:43,306 a child that's half dad and half mom. 263 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,788 There's a picture of complete humanity right there 264 00:16:46,962 --> 00:16:49,573 in marriage and the birth of a child. 265 00:16:49,747 --> 00:16:53,577 And then God gives them the assignment, 266 00:16:53,751 --> 00:16:55,840 the great mission, 267 00:16:56,015 --> 00:16:59,844 and that is to be fruitful... multiply, 268 00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:02,151 have lots and lots of babies and fill the earth 269 00:17:02,325 --> 00:17:05,024 and subdue it, rule it, 270 00:17:05,198 --> 00:17:08,157 take dominion over all of God's creation. 271 00:17:08,331 --> 00:17:10,246 Just as God used heaven as the pattern 272 00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:13,249 for the Garden of Eden, everything was perfect, 273 00:17:13,423 --> 00:17:15,251 everything was good, everything provided. 274 00:17:15,425 --> 00:17:18,211 It was very good. 275 00:17:18,385 --> 00:17:21,083 Adam and Eve were to use the garden as a pattern 276 00:17:21,257 --> 00:17:22,737 for the rest of the world, 277 00:17:22,911 --> 00:17:27,002 to bless the world, to heavenize the world... 278 00:17:27,176 --> 00:17:28,960 and make it beautiful. 279 00:17:29,135 --> 00:17:32,225 Adam had one job and it was to tend and keep the garden. 280 00:17:32,399 --> 00:17:35,619 In other words, to cultivate and guard, 281 00:17:35,793 --> 00:17:38,361 to beautify and protect. 282 00:17:38,535 --> 00:17:42,365 Well, if I said that to you, "Guard this. 283 00:17:42,539 --> 00:17:46,500 Protect what has been entrusted to you." 284 00:17:46,674 --> 00:17:49,590 The obvious question you should be asking yourself is, 285 00:17:49,764 --> 00:17:51,766 "From what?" 286 00:17:51,940 --> 00:17:56,858 And this is the worst part of the story, up until this point. 287 00:17:57,032 --> 00:17:59,078 Adam is in the garden with his wife, 288 00:17:59,252 --> 00:18:00,731 the most precious thing in the garden. 289 00:18:00,905 --> 00:18:02,081 He is to be protecting her, 290 00:18:02,255 --> 00:18:04,474 beautifying her, doing his job... 291 00:18:08,522 --> 00:18:11,699 and a serpent enters the garden. 292 00:18:11,873 --> 00:18:14,223 This is exactly what Adam should have been watching for. 293 00:18:14,397 --> 00:18:17,966 He should have smelled him a mile away 294 00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:20,708 and ran to him and crushed his head 295 00:18:20,882 --> 00:18:23,450 the second that he saw him, 296 00:18:23,624 --> 00:18:26,583 especially after he saw what he was doing to his wife. 297 00:18:26,757 --> 00:18:32,676 This is the ultimate breakdown of a man's responsibility. 298 00:18:32,850 --> 00:18:39,379 This is a story of a man throwing his wife under the bus 299 00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:44,514 and using her as a guinea pig in the human experiment. 300 00:18:44,688 --> 00:18:47,038 Remember God had said to Adam, 301 00:18:47,213 --> 00:18:48,736 "The day that you eat of this fruit, 302 00:18:48,910 --> 00:18:51,521 you will surely die." 303 00:18:51,695 --> 00:18:56,265 And the Serpent says, did God really say...? 304 00:18:56,439 --> 00:19:00,095 God did not really mean that you will die. 305 00:19:00,269 --> 00:19:02,706 He just knows that if you eat of this fruit, 306 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,665 you will become like him. 307 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:06,536 Surely you won't die." 308 00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:11,585 So who's telling the truth here, God or the Serpent? 309 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:17,765 And so Adam allows his wife to be deceived by the serpent. 310 00:19:17,939 --> 00:19:22,378 He fails to protect her, he fails to guard her 311 00:19:22,552 --> 00:19:27,862 and he watches while he stands there with her, 312 00:19:28,036 --> 00:19:32,345 the story says, and watches her eat. 313 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:39,743 [Instrumental music] 314 00:19:39,917 --> 00:19:49,797 [Singing and music] 315 00:19:49,971 --> 00:20:04,768 [Singing and music] 316 00:20:04,942 --> 00:20:09,817 [Singing and music] 317 00:20:09,991 --> 00:20:24,745 [Singing and music] 318 00:20:24,919 --> 00:20:29,793 [Singing and music] 319 00:20:29,967 --> 00:20:44,721 [Singing and music] 320 00:20:44,895 --> 00:20:49,770 [Singing and music] 321 00:20:49,944 --> 00:21:04,741 [Singing and music] 322 00:21:04,915 --> 00:21:09,790 [Singing and music] 323 00:21:09,964 --> 00:21:24,195 [Singing and music] 324 00:21:24,370 --> 00:21:34,205 [Dramatic instrumental music] 325 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:49,220 [Dramatic instrumental music] 326 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:54,225 [Dramatic instrumental music] 327 00:21:54,400 --> 00:22:06,325 [Dramatic instrumental music] 328 00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:18,249 [Crow cawing] Caw, caw... 329 00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:24,821 [Crow cawing] Caw, caw... 330 00:22:24,995 --> 00:22:27,084 [Singing and music] 331 00:22:27,258 --> 00:22:28,869 KIRK: And we all know what happens in the story next. 332 00:22:29,043 --> 00:22:30,653 God comes looking for Adam, "Adam, where are you?" 333 00:22:30,827 --> 00:22:31,698 Well, Adam and Eve are hiding. 334 00:22:31,872 --> 00:22:33,308 They're running from God. 335 00:22:33,482 --> 00:22:35,484 They're filled with guilt and shame and fear 336 00:22:35,658 --> 00:22:38,139 and they're covering themselves with fig leaves. 337 00:22:38,313 --> 00:22:41,098 And then God pronounces a curse on the serpent 338 00:22:41,272 --> 00:22:44,667 and the ground and on Eve's childbearing 339 00:22:44,841 --> 00:22:45,625 because he knows that they're gonna have kids, 340 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:47,235 it's gonna be difficult, 341 00:22:47,409 --> 00:22:51,108 and then he clothes them in skins of animals. 342 00:22:51,282 --> 00:22:52,936 Now why did God do that? 343 00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:55,765 Was it because the fig leaves were gonna wear out 344 00:22:55,939 --> 00:22:57,550 and this was a better covering? 345 00:22:57,724 --> 00:23:02,163 Probably, but have you ever thought about this: 346 00:23:02,337 --> 00:23:05,558 God clothed them in the skins of beasts 347 00:23:05,732 --> 00:23:09,344 because they had just listened to a beast. 348 00:23:09,518 --> 00:23:11,346 Maybe it was a reminder of their sin. 349 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,305 God is saying if you're gonna act like beasts, 350 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,787 you're gonna look like beasts. 351 00:23:17,961 --> 00:23:20,137 Because people always end up looking like 352 00:23:20,311 --> 00:23:22,226 the gods they follow. 353 00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:35,849 [Somber instrumental music] 354 00:23:36,023 --> 00:23:42,769 ♪ It's been so long, long hard days ♪ 355 00:23:42,943 --> 00:23:48,775 ♪ and they don't say God's changed my ways. ♪ 356 00:23:48,949 --> 00:23:58,175 ♪ Change my ways, those evil ways. ♪ 357 00:23:58,349 --> 00:24:04,878 ♪ So I set out across that way 358 00:24:05,052 --> 00:24:11,537 ♪ to strike them down, to make them pay. ♪ 359 00:24:11,711 --> 00:24:22,722 ♪ Change their ways, their evil ways. ♪ 360 00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:29,163 ♪ But I can't cry, whoa. 361 00:24:29,337 --> 00:24:36,823 ♪ And I won't hide, whoa, hey! 362 00:24:36,997 --> 00:24:41,436 ♪ My evil ways 363 00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:50,271 [Instrumental music] 364 00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:56,669 ♪ I found how their hate grow cold ♪ 365 00:24:56,843 --> 00:25:03,197 ♪ That God rise up and damn my soul ♪ 366 00:25:03,371 --> 00:25:09,769 ♪ 'cause I ain't changed, changed my ways. ♪ 367 00:25:09,943 --> 00:25:13,076 ♪ I ain't changed. 368 00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:19,387 ♪ So I won't hide, whoa. 369 00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:25,872 ♪ And I won't hide, whoa. 370 00:25:26,046 --> 00:25:32,574 ♪ No, I can't hide, yeah, whoa. ♪ 371 00:25:32,748 --> 00:25:41,104 ♪ I can't hide, hey... my evil ways. ♪ 372 00:25:41,278 --> 00:25:51,158 [Instrumental music] 373 00:25:51,332 --> 00:26:06,086 [Instrumental music] 374 00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:14,703 [Instrumental music] 375 00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:21,057 ♪ But I can't hide, whoa 376 00:26:21,231 --> 00:26:27,411 ♪ And I won't hide, whoa, yeah 377 00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:34,114 ♪ I can't hide, whoa. 378 00:26:34,288 --> 00:26:43,602 ♪ No, I can't hide, hey... my evil ways ♪♪♪ 379 00:26:45,821 --> 00:26:49,172 KIRK: The first human being's blood has just been spilled. 380 00:26:49,346 --> 00:26:51,958 There is a person dead for the first time 381 00:26:52,132 --> 00:26:55,178 in God's perfect world. 382 00:26:55,352 --> 00:26:58,747 I mean, if you're gonna tell a story about a family 383 00:26:58,921 --> 00:27:01,228 and the family has two boys, 384 00:27:01,402 --> 00:27:03,012 the worst thing that can happen 385 00:27:03,186 --> 00:27:04,840 is you have one of the boys kills the other one 386 00:27:05,014 --> 00:27:08,017 and the one that dies is the good one. 387 00:27:08,191 --> 00:27:09,540 It wasn't the bad kid that died, 388 00:27:09,715 --> 00:27:10,672 it was the good one, the innocent one, 389 00:27:10,846 --> 00:27:12,500 the one who did the right thing. 390 00:27:12,674 --> 00:27:18,201 His blood is spilled and God protects the murderer. 391 00:27:18,375 --> 00:27:20,203 The bad guy doesn't die, the good guy dies 392 00:27:20,377 --> 00:27:24,338 and then God places a mark on Cain 393 00:27:24,512 --> 00:27:27,210 and it was a mark that protected him. 394 00:27:27,384 --> 00:27:31,998 That told everyone around him if you come after Cain, 395 00:27:32,172 --> 00:27:37,873 I am coming after you, with this mark on this beast. 396 00:27:38,047 --> 00:27:40,093 I mean, we could almost wonder 397 00:27:40,267 --> 00:27:42,356 if this isn't the first mark of the beast, 398 00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:47,622 the original mark of the beast, and it's a mark of protection. 399 00:27:47,796 --> 00:27:50,581 Why is this happening? 400 00:27:50,756 --> 00:27:52,192 I mean, if I were writing the story 401 00:27:52,366 --> 00:27:57,937 I'd have the bad guy die and the good one win, 402 00:27:58,111 --> 00:27:59,808 but that's not what happens. 403 00:28:03,507 --> 00:28:05,292 What's going on? 404 00:28:05,466 --> 00:28:11,907 [Somber instrumental music] 405 00:28:12,081 --> 00:28:14,344 KIRK: When we ask these big questions about why, 406 00:28:14,518 --> 00:28:16,216 why do these things happen? 407 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:24,180 Why does pain and suffering exist in a world like this? 408 00:28:24,354 --> 00:28:26,313 We gotta get a perspective 409 00:28:26,487 --> 00:28:28,881 that is much bigger than where we are right now 410 00:28:29,055 --> 00:28:30,709 and we open up the Bible. 411 00:28:32,406 --> 00:28:34,147 This is God's story and this is where he explains 412 00:28:34,321 --> 00:28:37,454 how to make sense of this world that we're living in. 413 00:28:37,628 --> 00:28:39,326 But when we open it up, 414 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:41,850 we start out with this wild story of creating a world 415 00:28:42,024 --> 00:28:43,591 and a universe out of nothing. 416 00:28:43,765 --> 00:28:46,159 And then God creates man out of dirt 417 00:28:46,333 --> 00:28:49,336 and then he creates a woman out of a side of a man 418 00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:52,121 and we think, wow, that's amazing, and it's beautiful 419 00:28:52,295 --> 00:28:54,907 and I can buy that. 420 00:28:55,081 --> 00:28:57,779 Then we can see how man falls into rebellion and sin 421 00:28:57,953 --> 00:28:59,825 and then there's the story of Cain and Abel 422 00:28:59,999 --> 00:29:01,304 and that's a very sad story, 423 00:29:01,478 --> 00:29:02,828 but you can, you can believe that. 424 00:29:03,002 --> 00:29:04,351 You see people doing horrible things 425 00:29:04,525 --> 00:29:06,005 and taking people's lives. 426 00:29:06,179 --> 00:29:08,137 But that's a story about brothers and bad things 427 00:29:08,311 --> 00:29:09,617 that they're doing to one another 428 00:29:09,791 --> 00:29:11,314 and we can believe that 429 00:29:11,488 --> 00:29:13,360 because we see that happening all the time. 430 00:29:13,534 --> 00:29:17,886 But then the story takes this drastic turn to what God does. 431 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:19,453 The world gets so filled with violence 432 00:29:19,627 --> 00:29:21,498 and corruption and wickedness, 433 00:29:21,672 --> 00:29:27,461 God decides to unleash a giant flood. 434 00:29:27,635 --> 00:29:32,161 He decides to break open the great fountains of the deep 435 00:29:32,335 --> 00:29:34,598 and the windows of heaven open up 436 00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:36,992 and water floods the whole world 437 00:29:37,166 --> 00:29:39,081 to the point where everything dies. 438 00:29:39,255 --> 00:29:41,780 Everything that has breath on the land and in the air 439 00:29:41,954 --> 00:29:45,566 completely perishes, except for one man, Noah, 440 00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:47,786 and those who are with him on the Ark. 441 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,178 From a storytelling point of view, 442 00:29:49,352 --> 00:29:51,224 that is such a hard sell. 443 00:29:51,398 --> 00:29:53,313 It's funny because I've been in plenty of meetings where 444 00:29:53,487 --> 00:29:55,532 you're trying to pitch a story to Hollywood executives 445 00:29:55,706 --> 00:29:57,230 and you're trying to convince them 446 00:29:57,404 --> 00:29:59,101 that this is the greatest story in the world. 447 00:29:59,275 --> 00:30:00,886 -EXECUTIVE: Hey, Mr. Cameron. -KIRK: Good to see ya. 448 00:30:01,060 --> 00:30:02,583 -EXECUTIVE 2: How you doing? -KIRK: Good to see ya. 449 00:30:02,757 --> 00:30:04,541 EXECUTIVE 3: Hey, Mr. Cameron, good to see ya. 450 00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:07,806 KIRK: But if this was the story and this was the script... 451 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:10,939 EXECUTIVE: How's it goin'? How's Jack? 452 00:30:11,113 --> 00:30:13,202 KIRK: That I had to pitch as a story. 453 00:30:13,376 --> 00:30:14,682 EXECUTIVE: So, what's next? 454 00:30:14,856 --> 00:30:16,815 Give it to us. 455 00:30:16,989 --> 00:30:18,599 KIRK: I can't even imagine getting to the point 456 00:30:18,773 --> 00:30:20,514 where I tell them that the hero of the story 457 00:30:20,688 --> 00:30:27,956 actually floods the entire world that he made and everyone dies. 458 00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:30,089 Because God gives man a choice 459 00:30:30,263 --> 00:30:32,656 to either obey him or to rebel against him 460 00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:35,964 and man chooses to rebel against him, as you know, 461 00:30:36,138 --> 00:30:39,359 that sends the whole world down a path of destruction. 462 00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:40,969 I would imagine that they would say to me 463 00:30:41,143 --> 00:30:42,405 you need to go back to scriptwriting school. 464 00:30:42,579 --> 00:30:44,364 Clearly, you missed a few classes. 465 00:30:44,538 --> 00:30:47,541 That's not how you endear the hero to the audience. 466 00:30:47,715 --> 00:30:49,673 We see the apex of evil. 467 00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,371 EXECUTIVE: Hmmm. 468 00:30:51,545 --> 00:30:54,113 KIRK: We see humanity is destroying itself. 469 00:30:54,287 --> 00:31:00,728 This part in the story is such, it's such a hard sell. 470 00:31:00,902 --> 00:31:04,427 And before man destroys the entire world, 471 00:31:04,601 --> 00:31:07,604 God steps in and he raises up a man named Noah. 472 00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:11,913 [Silence] 473 00:31:12,087 --> 00:31:14,089 KIRK: Who has a, who has a heart after God... 474 00:31:14,263 --> 00:31:15,743 EXECUTIVE: Hero. 475 00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:17,179 KIRK: He's blameless in the sight of God... 476 00:31:17,353 --> 00:31:18,659 EXECUTIVE: Hero. [makes trumpet noise] 477 00:31:18,833 --> 00:31:19,616 KIRK: Who begins calling everyone else 478 00:31:19,790 --> 00:31:21,575 to turn from evil... 479 00:31:21,749 --> 00:31:23,098 -EXECUTIVE 2: Oh, he saved them. -KIRK: And turn back to God. 480 00:31:23,272 --> 00:31:25,187 EXECUTIVE: He's a savior. He's a savior. 481 00:31:25,361 --> 00:31:27,668 KIRK: And the way God commissions him to build a giant ship. 482 00:31:27,842 --> 00:31:29,017 EXECUTIVE 3: Like a cruise ship? 483 00:31:29,191 --> 00:31:30,758 EXECUTIVE 2: Ooh, cruise ship. 484 00:31:30,932 --> 00:31:32,499 EXECUTIVE: Oh, I like that. 485 00:31:32,673 --> 00:31:33,543 EXECUTIVE 3: I'm thinking like a cruise ship maybe. 486 00:31:33,717 --> 00:31:35,328 That can appeal to people. 487 00:31:35,502 --> 00:31:37,808 Who doesn't like a cruise ship? I know I do. I do! 488 00:31:37,983 --> 00:31:40,159 EXECUTIVE: Midnight buffet! 489 00:31:40,333 --> 00:31:42,465 Ooh, attention travelers, Midnight Buffet. 490 00:31:42,639 --> 00:31:44,250 EXECUTIVE 3: I know you got that martini deal. 491 00:31:44,424 --> 00:31:45,729 EXECUTIVE: Like how many desserts can you have 492 00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:47,427 at like, one in the morning? 493 00:31:47,601 --> 00:31:49,255 EXECUTIVE 2: I gained ten pounds on my last cruise. 494 00:31:49,429 --> 00:31:51,474 KIRK: Hey guys, guys, I know we all love cruise ships, 495 00:31:51,648 --> 00:31:55,304 but this is not...this is not about a cruise ship. 496 00:31:55,478 --> 00:32:01,528 It's a three-story, massive cargo barge. 497 00:32:01,702 --> 00:32:04,879 With Noah and his family, they're inside together 498 00:32:05,053 --> 00:32:07,621 with two of every kind of animal... 499 00:32:07,795 --> 00:32:10,493 EXECUTIVE: Well, but he's, 500 00:32:10,667 --> 00:32:11,755 he's with his family and the animals? 501 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:13,322 KIRK: Yes. 502 00:32:13,496 --> 00:32:14,454 EXECUTIVE 2: All right, this is where 503 00:32:14,628 --> 00:32:16,456 the family movie comes in. 504 00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:17,544 EXECUTIVE 3: The animals could possibly talk to each other. 505 00:32:17,718 --> 00:32:18,588 Kids love talking animals. 506 00:32:18,762 --> 00:32:19,285 EXECUTIVE: Absolutely. 507 00:32:19,459 --> 00:32:21,026 KIRK: No. 508 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,289 There is a complete deluge of the entire world 509 00:32:23,463 --> 00:32:25,465 and everyone in all the world... 510 00:32:25,639 --> 00:32:27,336 EXECUTIVE: Gets into these cities, I'm seeing it, cities. 511 00:32:27,510 --> 00:32:30,035 And everyone's on these floating cities. 512 00:32:30,209 --> 00:32:31,775 They're like pirates, but they create 513 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:33,995 all their own little sub world and culture. 514 00:32:34,169 --> 00:32:35,518 EXECUTIVE 3: Yes, that's a great idea. 515 00:32:35,692 --> 00:32:37,085 EXECUTIVE: Right, with animals, 516 00:32:37,259 --> 00:32:39,131 they have to live with sea creatures. 517 00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:41,089 And everyone forms like a, like a republic. 518 00:32:41,263 --> 00:32:44,223 KIRK: No floating cities. [murmuring] 519 00:32:44,397 --> 00:32:47,878 One ship with Noah and his family and the animals. 520 00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:51,012 EXECUTIVE: So where are all the people? 521 00:32:51,186 --> 00:32:52,840 KIRK: Drowned... dead. 522 00:32:53,014 --> 00:32:55,190 EXECUTIVE 3: It kind of portrays God as the enemy here. 523 00:32:55,364 --> 00:32:57,932 EXECUTIVE 2: Are we talking like babies and families? 524 00:32:58,106 --> 00:32:59,412 EXECUTIVE: When you say everyone, 525 00:32:59,586 --> 00:33:01,109 you mean just locally in that area. 526 00:33:01,283 --> 00:33:03,764 KIRK: Everyone's bad, and not local, worldwide. 527 00:33:03,938 --> 00:33:05,287 Everywhere, the whole world. 528 00:33:05,461 --> 00:33:08,725 Everyone dies except Noah and his family. 529 00:33:08,899 --> 00:33:10,684 And the reason God does this... 530 00:33:10,858 --> 00:33:13,730 EXECUTIVE: If we go back to the boat and the animal thing. 531 00:33:13,904 --> 00:33:17,386 [All talking at once] 532 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,084 EXECUTIVE 3: And the more I visualize this, 533 00:33:19,258 --> 00:33:21,086 I see this more as a cartoon, more than a... 534 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:22,261 EXECUTIVE 2: Well, the animals talk. 535 00:33:22,435 --> 00:33:23,740 EXECUTIVE 3: Yeah, absolutely. 536 00:33:23,914 --> 00:33:25,177 EXECUTIVE: What if they don't know 537 00:33:25,351 --> 00:33:26,917 that there are snakes on the boat? 538 00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:28,310 EXECUTIVE 3: That would be great, I like that. 539 00:33:28,484 --> 00:33:29,746 EXECUTIVE: "Hey! Who's going to feed us?" 540 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,747 Right? A cobra's like, "Oh!" [laughs] 541 00:33:30,921 --> 00:33:32,010 That would be good... 542 00:33:32,184 --> 00:33:33,446 KIRK: And then the water recedes, 543 00:33:33,620 --> 00:33:35,796 the boat rests on a mountain. 544 00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:39,365 Noah...Noah comes out of the ship 545 00:33:39,539 --> 00:33:42,063 and he sees in the sky a giant rainbow. 546 00:33:42,237 --> 00:33:44,152 EXECUTIVE: If we could make this more about the rainbow. 547 00:33:44,326 --> 00:33:46,633 Like, this is the story of the rainbow. 548 00:33:46,807 --> 00:33:49,201 This is not the story of God, 549 00:33:49,375 --> 00:33:51,029 "I'm angry, I'm going to flood everybody!" 550 00:33:51,203 --> 00:33:52,987 But how about we sort of make this, you know, 551 00:33:53,161 --> 00:33:55,946 have you ever wanted to know where the rainbow comes from? 552 00:33:56,121 --> 00:33:57,209 I can even see a song. 553 00:33:57,383 --> 00:33:59,037 ♪ Have you ever wondered 554 00:33:59,211 --> 00:34:00,255 ♪ where the rainbow comes from? ♪ 555 00:34:00,429 --> 00:34:02,127 EXECUTIVE: Focus on the rainbow. 556 00:34:02,301 --> 00:34:04,999 EXECUTIVE 2: I can see kids all over the world 557 00:34:05,173 --> 00:34:05,869 painting rainbows in their rooms. 558 00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:07,958 EXECUTIVE: Yeah. 559 00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:08,742 EXECUTIVE 3: Things would spike on Pinterest, that's for sure. 560 00:34:08,916 --> 00:34:10,265 EXECUTIVE: Yeah. 561 00:34:10,439 --> 00:34:11,440 KIRK: Well, then God sends out a dove 562 00:34:11,614 --> 00:34:13,051 and this dove comes back... 563 00:34:13,225 --> 00:34:14,052 EXECUTIVE 2: How about an eagle? Not a dove. 564 00:34:14,226 --> 00:34:16,141 EXECUTIVE: Yeah. 565 00:34:16,315 --> 00:34:18,795 And that eagle, pfhtt, kind of comes to me 566 00:34:18,969 --> 00:34:20,406 in slow motion like ramping, 567 00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:22,756 you know, what I mean, like, "Pfft." "Caw!" 568 00:34:22,930 --> 00:34:24,627 EXECUTIVE 2: That's good. 569 00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:26,803 Well, he lands right... 570 00:34:26,977 --> 00:34:28,588 it could even be a falcon. 571 00:34:28,762 --> 00:34:31,678 EXECUTIVE: Even better, yet... Noah, "pfft," right? 572 00:34:31,852 --> 00:34:34,333 And then comes down and just perches right there. 573 00:34:34,507 --> 00:34:36,161 EXECUTIVE 3: That's our hero moment. 574 00:34:36,335 --> 00:34:36,987 EXECUTIVE: You know what that is, guys? 575 00:34:37,162 --> 00:34:38,772 Poster moment. 576 00:34:38,946 --> 00:34:40,730 EXECUTIVE 3: Hello! EXECUTIVE: Poster moment... 577 00:34:40,904 --> 00:34:41,688 EXECUTIVE 2: I can see it, yeah. You know, we can actually... 578 00:34:41,862 --> 00:34:45,257 [Instrumental music] 579 00:34:45,431 --> 00:34:46,997 EXECUTIVE: Back to you, Kirk. 580 00:34:47,172 --> 00:34:48,477 KIRK: Guys, this is not a kids' story. 581 00:34:48,651 --> 00:34:50,479 The story can't change. 582 00:34:50,653 --> 00:34:53,569 The story has to be this way. 583 00:34:53,743 --> 00:34:56,616 EXECUTIVE: I think what we're all saying here is 584 00:34:56,790 --> 00:35:01,360 this is a fantastic movie, we love, we love the story, 585 00:35:01,534 --> 00:35:03,666 we love where you're going, we love all the characters... 586 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,451 EXECUTIVE 3: And we love you, Kirk. 587 00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:09,716 EXECUTIVE: We love... we're all huge, huge fans. 588 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:11,718 EXECUTIVE 3: Look at that smile. EXECUTIVE: Kirky Kirk fans. 589 00:35:11,892 --> 00:35:12,893 My neighbor was like, "You're working with Kirk?" 590 00:35:13,067 --> 00:35:14,373 I was like,"Yeah." 591 00:35:14,547 --> 00:35:16,244 He's like, "Tell Kirk I love him." 592 00:35:16,418 --> 00:35:18,116 But what I don't want to do is go back to my neighbor 593 00:35:18,290 --> 00:35:20,944 when they ask and say what kind of movie is Kirk making 594 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,208 and I say, well, he's making a movie 595 00:35:23,382 --> 00:35:27,342 about a God who floods the whole world. 596 00:35:27,516 --> 00:35:30,998 But, and I want you to hear me on this, 597 00:35:31,172 --> 00:35:33,435 from a marketing standpoint, 598 00:35:33,609 --> 00:35:38,527 from a storytelling standpoint, if we focus on the ark, 599 00:35:38,701 --> 00:35:47,623 the family, the adventure, the animals and the rainbow, 600 00:35:47,797 --> 00:35:50,104 and sort of try to skip over... 601 00:35:50,278 --> 00:35:52,889 I'm not saying you can't have this part, 602 00:35:53,063 --> 00:35:58,199 but if we just focus on those three elements, 603 00:35:58,373 --> 00:36:01,985 that's a story people want to hear. 604 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:08,601 You don't want to be telling a story about death. 605 00:36:08,775 --> 00:36:12,561 It's not what people want to hear. 606 00:36:12,735 --> 00:36:17,175 People don't want to go to a movie and hear about death. 607 00:36:19,394 --> 00:36:23,006 [Instrumental music] 608 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:24,878 EXECUTIVE [in echo]: People don't want to go to a movie 609 00:36:25,052 --> 00:36:28,882 and hear about death. 610 00:36:29,056 --> 00:36:38,892 [Instrumental music] 611 00:36:39,066 --> 00:36:53,863 [Instrumental music] 612 00:36:54,037 --> 00:36:58,912 [Instrumental music] 613 00:36:59,086 --> 00:37:13,840 [Instrumental music] 614 00:37:14,014 --> 00:37:18,888 [Instrumental music] 615 00:37:19,062 --> 00:37:33,860 [Instrumental music] 616 00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:38,908 [Instrumental music] 617 00:37:39,082 --> 00:37:49,528 [Instrumental music] 618 00:37:49,702 --> 00:37:53,793 KIRK: The problem with stories that we think we know so well 619 00:37:53,967 --> 00:37:59,059 is that sometimes we become so familiar with them 620 00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:03,368 that we get confused because we overlook details 621 00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:05,892 that actually make the story make sense, 622 00:38:06,066 --> 00:38:10,418 the details that actually complete the whole story. 623 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,900 Think of Adam and Eve. 624 00:38:14,074 --> 00:38:18,252 It's easy to be caught up with the serpent and the rebellion 625 00:38:18,426 --> 00:38:19,688 and the fruit on the tree 626 00:38:19,862 --> 00:38:21,995 and God pronouncing a death sentence 627 00:38:22,169 --> 00:38:24,737 and being expelled from the Garden. 628 00:38:24,911 --> 00:38:30,569 But what should captivate us above all other things 629 00:38:30,743 --> 00:38:33,441 is the fact that God is demonstrating 630 00:38:33,615 --> 00:38:36,618 his mercy and his kindness, 631 00:38:36,792 --> 00:38:41,536 his care, his protection and his grace towards them. 632 00:38:41,710 --> 00:38:45,061 I mean, think about it, God did not kill Adam and Eve. 633 00:38:45,235 --> 00:38:46,236 He didn't abandon them. 634 00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:49,544 He didn't throw them into Hell. 635 00:38:49,718 --> 00:38:51,372 He begins providing for them. 636 00:38:51,546 --> 00:38:53,505 He gives them clothes, he gives them food. 637 00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:55,507 he gives them more children. 638 00:38:55,681 --> 00:38:58,074 He sends angels to watch over them 639 00:38:58,248 --> 00:39:00,686 and He gives them a promise. 640 00:39:00,860 --> 00:39:03,689 When they were filled with guilt and shame and fear, 641 00:39:03,863 --> 00:39:05,299 He gives them a promise 642 00:39:05,473 --> 00:39:07,823 that must have filled them with hope. 643 00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:11,914 A promise that God would send someone, a descent of Eve, 644 00:39:12,088 --> 00:39:19,095 who would crush that serpent's head and fix all of this. 645 00:39:19,269 --> 00:39:21,402 When you're standing in the midst of a crime scene, 646 00:39:21,576 --> 00:39:25,014 it's easy to notice and be shocked 647 00:39:25,188 --> 00:39:27,408 by bloodstains on the ground, 648 00:39:27,582 --> 00:39:29,323 but what should shock us even more 649 00:39:29,497 --> 00:39:31,586 at this point in the story is 650 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,591 the grace and patience and kindness of God. 651 00:39:36,765 --> 00:39:38,898 Think about it, if ever there was a time 652 00:39:39,072 --> 00:39:42,423 where God could have said, "I am done with the human race. 653 00:39:42,597 --> 00:39:46,122 I am going to end this right now," it was here. 654 00:39:46,296 --> 00:39:49,517 Adam rebelled against God. 655 00:39:49,691 --> 00:39:52,390 And the apple didn't fall far from the tree. 656 00:39:52,564 --> 00:39:57,873 Now his son murders his brother and lies to God's face. 657 00:39:58,047 --> 00:40:01,964 While he was talking to God, God heard Abel's blood crying 658 00:40:02,138 --> 00:40:07,274 through Cain's lying teeth, but God didn't kill him. 659 00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:08,754 And he didn't forget about Abel. 660 00:40:08,928 --> 00:40:11,887 He wasn't oblivious to Abel's cry. 661 00:40:12,061 --> 00:40:16,283 Abel's blood had a voice and it cried out from the ground 662 00:40:16,457 --> 00:40:19,242 and reached God's ears in Heaven, 663 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:23,682 and Abel made it into the Faith Hall of Fame. 664 00:40:23,856 --> 00:40:27,947 He's been given a lasting legacy and will be forever remembered 665 00:40:28,121 --> 00:40:30,079 as an example of someone who approached God 666 00:40:30,253 --> 00:40:32,995 the right way, by faith. 667 00:40:33,169 --> 00:40:35,607 There's only one world. 668 00:40:35,781 --> 00:40:38,044 The world that Adam and Eve lived in, 669 00:40:38,218 --> 00:40:41,439 Cain and Abel lived in, is the same world that we live in. 670 00:40:41,613 --> 00:40:45,051 We breathe the same air, we walk on the same ground 671 00:40:45,225 --> 00:40:47,619 and we look at the same ocean. 672 00:40:47,793 --> 00:40:49,316 During the days of Noah, 673 00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:52,145 this was not about God destroying the world, 674 00:40:52,319 --> 00:40:55,714 humanity was destroying itself. 675 00:40:55,888 --> 00:40:58,064 Men had filled the world with so much wickedness 676 00:40:58,238 --> 00:41:01,633 and violence that they were going to completely kill 677 00:41:01,807 --> 00:41:03,156 and annihilate one another. 678 00:41:03,330 --> 00:41:05,811 All they needed was more time, 679 00:41:05,985 --> 00:41:09,031 but God mercifully steps in and cuts that short. 680 00:41:09,205 --> 00:41:12,992 He puts a period at the end to stop evil. 681 00:41:13,166 --> 00:41:16,648 [Waves crashing] 682 00:41:16,822 --> 00:41:19,172 KIRK: He packs the whole world up into a wooden box 683 00:41:19,346 --> 00:41:22,828 and fills it with everything needed for a brand new world. 684 00:41:23,002 --> 00:41:25,308 He floats it on top of the ocean 685 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:28,921 while he deals with all of the evil below. 686 00:41:29,095 --> 00:41:32,141 And when He's finished, it rests on the top of a mountain 687 00:41:32,315 --> 00:41:34,535 and He opens the wooden box 688 00:41:34,709 --> 00:41:37,538 and everything is there to start all over. 689 00:41:37,712 --> 00:41:41,063 A new man, a new woman, children, a family, 690 00:41:41,237 --> 00:41:44,197 food, animals. 691 00:41:44,371 --> 00:41:45,285 Noah plants a vineyard. 692 00:41:45,459 --> 00:41:46,939 We're back in a garden. 693 00:41:47,113 --> 00:41:50,159 We're starting over, a new and better world 694 00:41:50,333 --> 00:41:54,076 is being birthed through tragedy. 695 00:41:54,250 --> 00:41:58,559 [Instrumental music] 696 00:41:58,733 --> 00:42:00,866 KIRK: The world has been born again. 697 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,651 And then God gives them a promise, 698 00:42:03,825 --> 00:42:08,395 a brilliant sign in the sky, a rainbow. 699 00:42:11,137 --> 00:42:15,358 KIRK: Let's think for a minute about the rainbow, 700 00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:16,969 The promise that God put in the sky, 701 00:42:17,143 --> 00:42:20,320 this symbol that would be a permanent promise 702 00:42:20,494 --> 00:42:23,366 that He would never again use water 703 00:42:23,541 --> 00:42:25,194 to flood and destroy the world. 704 00:42:25,368 --> 00:42:28,981 It's interesting that the word "rainbow" is not the word 705 00:42:29,155 --> 00:42:33,202 that God uses when he promises Noah. 706 00:42:33,376 --> 00:42:36,597 The word he uses is "bow," just simply my bow. 707 00:42:36,771 --> 00:42:38,468 He says, I'll place my bow in the clouds. 708 00:42:38,643 --> 00:42:41,733 I will hang my bow in the clouds. 709 00:42:41,907 --> 00:42:43,865 Well, what's God's bow? 710 00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:46,999 His bow is only one thing, 711 00:42:47,173 --> 00:42:51,612 it's what God says he will bend and he will dip the arrows 712 00:42:51,786 --> 00:42:55,355 and point them at the hearts of his enemies. 713 00:42:55,529 --> 00:42:59,011 God's bow is his weapon of judgment, 714 00:42:59,185 --> 00:43:04,016 it's a war bow of wrath aimed at his enemies. 715 00:43:04,190 --> 00:43:05,974 And God's saying, I'm going to hang that up in the clouds. 716 00:43:06,148 --> 00:43:07,759 He's putting it away. 717 00:43:07,933 --> 00:43:12,024 He's not using it, he's hanging it in the clouds. 718 00:43:12,198 --> 00:43:14,592 In essence, he's suspending his judgment 719 00:43:14,766 --> 00:43:16,811 and he will no longer use water to flood 720 00:43:16,985 --> 00:43:18,987 and destroy all flesh and the world. 721 00:43:19,161 --> 00:43:22,251 But have you ever noticed how the bow is positioned? 722 00:43:22,425 --> 00:43:23,731 How it's oriented? 723 00:43:23,905 --> 00:43:26,299 Look at the way it's hanging. 724 00:43:26,473 --> 00:43:28,693 It's hanging like this. 725 00:43:28,867 --> 00:43:31,130 If it were a bow, the string would be stretched 726 00:43:31,304 --> 00:43:33,219 along the horizon. 727 00:43:33,393 --> 00:43:34,699 And where is the bow pointed? 728 00:43:34,873 --> 00:43:36,309 Where would the arrows be directed? 729 00:43:36,483 --> 00:43:38,790 Where? 730 00:43:38,964 --> 00:43:41,575 Up to Heaven. 731 00:43:41,749 --> 00:43:43,185 Where is God? 732 00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:45,579 In Heaven. 733 00:43:45,753 --> 00:43:49,061 [Instrumental music] 734 00:43:49,235 --> 00:43:53,413 KIRK: The next time we see God pouring out his judgment 735 00:43:53,587 --> 00:43:57,591 and wrath for the sin of the whole world 736 00:43:57,765 --> 00:44:03,597 is at the cross where Jesus Christ hangs and dies. 737 00:44:03,771 --> 00:44:09,821 He, himself, God himself, becomes a man, a perfect man 738 00:44:09,995 --> 00:44:11,649 and then he takes upon himself 739 00:44:11,823 --> 00:44:16,044 the judgment for the sin of the world. 740 00:44:16,218 --> 00:44:20,440 Could the rainbow possibly be pointing to that day? 741 00:44:20,614 --> 00:44:33,845 [Instrumental music] 742 00:44:34,019 --> 00:44:38,937 KIRK: When God's judgment and wrath comes to him 743 00:44:39,111 --> 00:44:41,766 instead of upon his creation? 744 00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:51,819 [Instrumental music] 745 00:44:51,993 --> 00:45:06,704 [Instrumental music] 746 00:45:06,878 --> 00:45:11,796 [Instrumental music] 747 00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:26,767 [Instrumental music] 748 00:45:26,941 --> 00:45:30,684 [Instrumental music] 749 00:45:30,858 --> 00:45:33,643 KIRK: I mean, let's just fill in the distance 750 00:45:33,818 --> 00:45:39,824 between the bow and the cross. 751 00:45:39,998 --> 00:45:42,783 God washes the world clean of sin, 752 00:45:42,957 --> 00:45:45,351 he drowns evil and gives man a brand new chance. 753 00:45:45,525 --> 00:45:49,355 You have a new beginning, but you have the same old heart 754 00:45:49,529 --> 00:45:51,792 and the same pattern starts to emerge again. 755 00:45:51,966 --> 00:45:53,533 Man is pushing God away. 756 00:45:53,707 --> 00:45:55,578 He wants to get out from under the authority of God 757 00:45:55,753 --> 00:45:57,885 and make a name for himself. 758 00:45:58,059 --> 00:46:00,322 And bad goes to worse 759 00:46:00,496 --> 00:46:02,498 and eventually you come to the Tower of Babel 760 00:46:02,672 --> 00:46:05,110 where they're all together as one people, 761 00:46:05,284 --> 00:46:08,113 in one place, with one language. 762 00:46:08,287 --> 00:46:10,463 You have a one-world government 763 00:46:10,637 --> 00:46:13,553 building a tower to reach to the heavens, 764 00:46:13,727 --> 00:46:16,948 so that we will not be scattered all over the earth. 765 00:46:17,122 --> 00:46:19,864 Well, that's exactly what God told them to do. 766 00:46:20,038 --> 00:46:21,604 He told it to Adam, "Be fruitful and multiply," 767 00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:23,519 spread out and fill the earth. 768 00:46:23,693 --> 00:46:25,391 He told the same thing to Noah. 769 00:46:25,565 --> 00:46:27,697 And that's precisely what they're not doing. 770 00:46:27,872 --> 00:46:31,179 So God confuses their language, they have no more communication 771 00:46:31,353 --> 00:46:35,096 and they are forced to scatter and disperse. 772 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:37,838 And all of that develops into the Babylonian Empire 773 00:46:38,012 --> 00:46:40,362 and then we see the Assyrian Empire. 774 00:46:40,536 --> 00:46:45,019 These are cultures of death, human sacrifice, idolatry, 775 00:46:45,193 --> 00:46:47,152 wickedness, violence, immorality. 776 00:46:47,326 --> 00:46:50,590 Moving into the Greek Empire and the Roman Empire. 777 00:46:50,764 --> 00:46:54,028 And the Romans conquered the Greeks militarily 778 00:46:54,202 --> 00:46:58,206 but the Greeks' morality infected and conquered Rome 779 00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:01,688 and brought Rome to the darkest, bleakest, 780 00:47:01,862 --> 00:47:04,691 most wicked culture on the planet. 781 00:47:04,865 --> 00:47:07,694 This was a culture of death. 782 00:47:07,868 --> 00:47:10,088 Now meanwhile, we see that God 783 00:47:10,262 --> 00:47:12,264 has still not given up on his plan 784 00:47:12,438 --> 00:47:14,135 and he is starting a brand new nation 785 00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:16,137 in the middle of this culture of death. 786 00:47:16,311 --> 00:47:19,053 He raises up a man named Abraham, who starts a nation 787 00:47:19,227 --> 00:47:21,708 through his family called Israel. 788 00:47:21,882 --> 00:47:25,233 And it's through these promises 789 00:47:25,407 --> 00:47:32,023 that God brings that man, that new and better Adam 790 00:47:32,197 --> 00:47:36,897 into that ultimate culture of death, 791 00:47:37,071 --> 00:47:42,990 that the Son of God, the author of life, is born. 792 00:47:43,164 --> 00:47:53,044 [Instrumental music] 793 00:47:53,218 --> 00:48:07,972 [Instrumental music] 794 00:48:08,146 --> 00:48:13,020 [Instrumental music] 795 00:48:13,194 --> 00:48:27,992 [Instrumental music] 796 00:48:28,166 --> 00:48:33,040 [Instrumental music] 797 00:48:33,214 --> 00:48:45,487 [Instrumental music] 798 00:48:45,661 --> 00:48:48,577 KIRK: Let's just talk about Jesus for a minute. 799 00:48:48,751 --> 00:48:55,671 [Instrumental music] 800 00:48:55,845 --> 00:49:01,155 KIRK: This is the man that God promised Eve in the Garden 801 00:49:01,329 --> 00:49:03,288 would come as one of her descendants 802 00:49:03,462 --> 00:49:05,507 and crush the serpent's head. 803 00:49:05,681 --> 00:49:10,991 [Instrumental music] 804 00:49:11,165 --> 00:49:14,342 KIRK: Precisely what her husband Adam did not do. 805 00:49:14,516 --> 00:49:19,565 [Instrumental music] 806 00:49:19,739 --> 00:49:21,175 KIRK: The last Adam, Jesus, 807 00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:23,525 was the one who would protect his bride. 808 00:49:23,699 --> 00:49:27,312 [Instrumental music] 809 00:49:27,486 --> 00:49:29,662 KIRK: Adam failed to protect her in the Garden. 810 00:49:29,836 --> 00:49:32,752 Jesus succeeds and is victorious in a garden 811 00:49:32,926 --> 00:49:33,927 and he protects his bride. 812 00:49:34,101 --> 00:49:35,973 He crushes the serpent's head. 813 00:49:38,410 --> 00:49:41,543 KIRK: He is the one who is going to reverse the curse. 814 00:49:41,717 --> 00:49:44,546 This is the new and better Adam, the last Adam, 815 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:46,766 who is going to raise the dead, 816 00:49:46,940 --> 00:49:49,116 heal the sick, give sight to the blind, 817 00:49:49,290 --> 00:49:51,771 turn water into wine, feed thousands 818 00:49:51,945 --> 00:49:57,124 and restore the whole world back to its maker 819 00:49:57,298 --> 00:49:59,648 and his people back to their mission 820 00:49:59,822 --> 00:50:03,261 of heavenizing the earth. 821 00:50:03,435 --> 00:50:07,221 He comes and fulfills all the law and the prophets 822 00:50:07,395 --> 00:50:10,007 and then his own people kill him. 823 00:50:10,181 --> 00:50:20,060 [Instrumental music] 824 00:50:20,234 --> 00:50:28,373 [Instrumental music] 825 00:50:28,547 --> 00:50:30,375 KIRK: I mean, that's how the story goes. 826 00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:36,685 It's Jesus facing his own team being fully corrupted, 827 00:50:36,859 --> 00:50:41,603 a religious hypocrisy that is at its worst and the Roman Empire, 828 00:50:41,777 --> 00:50:43,562 which is in charge of the whole world. 829 00:50:43,736 --> 00:50:49,437 And together they conspire to kill Jesus. 830 00:50:49,611 --> 00:50:51,613 But then he's resurrected. 831 00:50:51,787 --> 00:50:54,834 So hopes are back up that he is who he said he was. 832 00:50:55,008 --> 00:50:57,315 That this was the redeemer who would set people free 833 00:50:57,489 --> 00:51:00,187 from fear and guilt and shame and death. 834 00:51:00,361 --> 00:51:03,451 This really was him, but then he leaves. 835 00:51:03,625 --> 00:51:06,933 He's only back for 40 days and then he leaves. 836 00:51:07,107 --> 00:51:09,849 And he leaves his followers in this culture of death, 837 00:51:10,023 --> 00:51:13,418 which has only gotten worse. 838 00:51:13,592 --> 00:51:16,508 They were sawed in half, they were fed to the lions, 839 00:51:16,682 --> 00:51:21,861 they were burned at the stake, they were crucified upside down. 840 00:51:22,035 --> 00:51:26,170 More tragedy in the story. 841 00:51:26,344 --> 00:51:30,261 At what point does God say, "Enough?" 842 00:51:30,435 --> 00:51:34,047 Enough of death, I'm done with it. 843 00:51:37,355 --> 00:51:41,837 KIRK: It's exactly at the moment that Jesus dies on the cross. 844 00:51:42,011 --> 00:51:48,235 Jesus flips death on its head by dying for his enemies. 845 00:51:48,409 --> 00:51:54,459 You see, all throughout history, the manifesto of empires was 846 00:51:54,633 --> 00:51:57,592 you kill your enemies and take over the world. 847 00:51:57,766 --> 00:52:00,726 Jesus comes in and says, I'm going to show you 848 00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:03,598 how you use death to change the world. 849 00:52:03,772 --> 00:52:07,167 And in love, he comes and lays down his own life 850 00:52:07,341 --> 00:52:09,778 for his enemies. 851 00:52:09,952 --> 00:52:19,832 [Instrumental music] 852 00:52:20,006 --> 00:52:34,760 [Instrumental music] 853 00:52:34,934 --> 00:52:39,808 [Instrumental music] 854 00:52:39,982 --> 00:52:44,987 [Instrumental music] 855 00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:48,556 KIRK: Three days after he was placed into a tomb, 856 00:52:48,730 --> 00:52:51,124 everything changed. 857 00:52:51,298 --> 00:52:53,692 Nothing is the same. 858 00:52:53,866 --> 00:52:56,869 The funeral is no longer the finish. 859 00:52:57,043 --> 00:53:01,047 The grave is not the goal. 860 00:53:01,221 --> 00:53:04,355 Jesus said, "Unless a kernel of wheat 861 00:53:04,529 --> 00:53:08,794 falls to the ground and dies, it remains alone. 862 00:53:08,968 --> 00:53:16,497 But if it dies, it will multiply and produce abundant fruit." 863 00:53:16,671 --> 00:53:21,676 Matthew is a seed who was planted in the earth 864 00:53:21,850 --> 00:53:26,638 and already I'm seeing signs of life. 865 00:53:26,812 --> 00:53:29,423 Every graveyard is a garden. 866 00:53:29,597 --> 00:53:32,513 In fact, they used to be called Grave Gardens 867 00:53:32,687 --> 00:53:34,385 because they're full of seeds, 868 00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:38,954 people who love God planted in the earth. 869 00:53:39,128 --> 00:53:42,697 And one day each of those seeds, like Matthew, 870 00:53:42,871 --> 00:53:45,570 will burst through the mud on top of their grave 871 00:53:45,744 --> 00:53:48,486 into a brand new world. 872 00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:53,055 When Jesus rose from the grave, that was his victory lap. 873 00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:55,754 The battle had already been won. 874 00:53:55,928 --> 00:54:01,368 The resurrection was good publicly humiliating evil. 875 00:54:01,542 --> 00:54:03,936 This was life swallowing up death. 876 00:54:04,110 --> 00:54:06,504 This was rubbing the Devil's nose in the fact 877 00:54:06,678 --> 00:54:11,422 that he had just been stripped, de-fanged and neutered. 878 00:54:11,596 --> 00:54:13,554 And when Jesus ascended into heaven, 879 00:54:13,728 --> 00:54:16,427 he wasn't abandoning his disciples, 880 00:54:16,601 --> 00:54:19,473 he was going to his father to present all the spoils 881 00:54:19,647 --> 00:54:22,215 from his decisive win. 882 00:54:22,389 --> 00:54:25,436 He had just won his bride, he defeated the Devil 883 00:54:25,610 --> 00:54:27,481 and he was going to sit down on his throne 884 00:54:27,655 --> 00:54:31,355 and receive all authority, power and dominion 885 00:54:31,529 --> 00:54:34,662 both in heaven and on earth. 886 00:54:34,836 --> 00:54:37,361 He put all his enemies under his feet. 887 00:54:37,535 --> 00:54:39,450 I can even hear the words of the father saying, 888 00:54:39,624 --> 00:54:43,584 "Well done, son. Well done." 889 00:54:43,758 --> 00:54:47,022 And the son saying, "There's just one more thing, 890 00:54:47,196 --> 00:54:49,547 let's give 'em power." 891 00:54:49,721 --> 00:54:52,724 And the story goes on to the whole world being lit up 892 00:54:52,898 --> 00:54:56,597 with the good news that light overcomes darkness. 893 00:54:56,771 --> 00:55:01,863 That love overcomes hatred and life overcomes death. 894 00:55:02,037 --> 00:55:12,918 [Instrumental music] 895 00:55:13,092 --> 00:55:16,704 KIRK: We have a God who is not immune to pain and suffering. 896 00:55:16,878 --> 00:55:22,710 [Instrumental music] 897 00:55:22,884 --> 00:55:25,887 KIRK: He's not a God who's sitting out on a cloud somewhere 898 00:55:26,061 --> 00:55:29,456 with his arms and legs crossed and his eyes closed, 899 00:55:29,630 --> 00:55:33,373 with a smile on his face, not paying attention 900 00:55:33,547 --> 00:55:36,768 or not caring about the things that are happening right here. 901 00:55:36,942 --> 00:55:45,472 [Instrumental music] 902 00:55:45,646 --> 00:55:48,083 KIRK: He stepped into it. 903 00:55:48,257 --> 00:55:51,913 He entered our world of flesh and blood, 904 00:55:52,087 --> 00:55:54,046 of pain and suffering. 905 00:55:54,220 --> 00:55:58,398 [Instrumental music] 906 00:55:58,572 --> 00:56:02,620 KIRK: Of tears and death, he tasted it, 907 00:56:02,794 --> 00:56:08,843 he's experienced it, he fully, completely gets it. 908 00:56:09,017 --> 00:56:19,332 [Instrumental music] 909 00:56:19,506 --> 00:56:24,293 KIRK: He hung on a cross, alone, 910 00:56:24,468 --> 00:56:27,732 nails through his hands and his feet, 911 00:56:27,906 --> 00:56:32,650 his arms and his legs twisted, his back ripped open, 912 00:56:32,824 --> 00:56:36,393 his face bleeding from the thorn pricks around his head. 913 00:56:36,567 --> 00:56:40,571 his mouth dry and unbearably thirsty, 914 00:56:40,745 --> 00:56:43,704 plunged into God-forsaken darkness. 915 00:56:43,878 --> 00:56:56,238 [Instrumental music] 916 00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,893 KIRK: And he did it for us. 917 00:56:59,067 --> 00:57:03,289 He understands, he can help. 918 00:57:03,463 --> 00:57:05,987 That's the God that's for me. 919 00:57:06,161 --> 00:57:09,077 That's the God that's for you. 920 00:57:09,251 --> 00:57:20,132 [Instrumental music] 921 00:57:20,306 --> 00:57:22,221 KIRK: I know there's a question mark 922 00:57:22,395 --> 00:57:24,876 that still hangs over the subject of suffering. 923 00:57:25,050 --> 00:57:27,008 Why? 924 00:57:27,182 --> 00:57:32,274 Why didn't you heal my friend when I know you could have? 925 00:57:32,449 --> 00:57:42,937 [Instrumental music] 926 00:57:43,111 --> 00:57:47,899 KIRK: Why doesn't he heal your pain or my pain? 927 00:57:48,073 --> 00:57:51,903 But I have a peace about Matthew's life and death. 928 00:57:52,077 --> 00:57:55,036 I watched his mother and his father and his sister 929 00:57:55,210 --> 00:57:57,778 walk Matthew to the gates of Heaven. 930 00:57:57,952 --> 00:58:04,524 [Instrumental music] 931 00:58:04,698 --> 00:58:07,484 KIRK: One father handing his son to another 932 00:58:07,658 --> 00:58:10,312 and I have peace about that 933 00:58:10,487 --> 00:58:13,751 because I've already seen my God use 934 00:58:13,925 --> 00:58:17,145 the most horrific and tragic events in history 935 00:58:17,319 --> 00:58:20,366 for the greatest things in the world. 936 00:58:20,540 --> 00:58:22,324 He was there at the fall. 937 00:58:22,499 --> 00:58:23,761 He was there at the flood. 938 00:58:23,935 --> 00:58:25,371 He didn't take his hands off the wheel. 939 00:58:25,545 --> 00:58:27,982 He was there in the crucifixion. 940 00:58:28,156 --> 00:58:32,465 And the worst, most tragic thing that has even happened 941 00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:36,643 to the most perfect and pure and innocent person turns out 942 00:58:36,817 --> 00:58:41,256 to be the greatest thing the world has even seen. 943 00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:47,741 It brought the salvation of God to the world. 944 00:58:47,915 --> 00:58:52,354 And so I have hope that every tragedy in my life and in yours, 945 00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:55,314 every future tragedy and every future pain 946 00:58:55,488 --> 00:58:57,403 and struggle and suffering and death, 947 00:58:57,577 --> 00:59:03,191 God can and will use those things for his greater glory 948 00:59:03,365 --> 00:59:07,282 and for our good, because that's what he's been doing all along. 949 00:59:07,456 --> 00:59:11,330 Through all of the pain and the suffering and the grief, 950 00:59:11,504 --> 00:59:16,248 God is working out this same unstoppable purpose for you. 951 00:59:16,422 --> 00:59:18,729 He's forming in you the character needed 952 00:59:18,903 --> 00:59:22,036 for the assignment that he has for you. 953 00:59:22,210 --> 00:59:27,172 Every father, every daughter, every mother, every son, 954 00:59:27,346 --> 00:59:31,263 he's creating a sense of commitment in you. 955 00:59:31,437 --> 00:59:35,528 God is developing a confidence that only those who experience 956 00:59:35,702 --> 00:59:39,445 trials and tragedy can have. 957 00:59:39,619 --> 00:59:42,753 Only though a Matthew kind of process 958 00:59:42,927 --> 00:59:45,843 can you have that unshakable faith 959 00:59:46,017 --> 00:59:48,585 and overwhelming confidence in God 960 00:59:48,759 --> 00:59:53,372 because he is a God of purpose. 961 00:59:53,546 --> 00:59:57,985 And he floods your heart with a compassion for other people 962 00:59:58,159 --> 01:00:02,337 so that you can help them when they go through trials. 963 01:00:02,511 --> 01:00:04,731 What's being created in you 964 01:00:04,905 --> 01:00:07,778 because of your painful experience, 965 01:00:07,952 --> 01:00:10,084 this is the very apex, 966 01:00:10,258 --> 01:00:16,656 the ultimate expression of the very heart of God to others. 967 01:00:16,830 --> 01:00:21,661 And that God of purpose and love and power 968 01:00:21,835 --> 01:00:24,490 somehow transforms that question mark 969 01:00:24,664 --> 01:00:31,366 into an exclamation point for me and reminds me that God is good, 970 01:00:31,540 --> 01:00:37,155 we can trust him, and his purposes are unstoppable. 971 01:00:37,329 --> 01:00:47,208 [Instrumental music] 972 01:00:47,382 --> 01:00:53,084 [Instrumental music] 973 01:01:12,494 --> 01:01:25,812 [Instrumental music] 974 01:01:25,986 --> 01:01:31,862 ♪ I cut my teeth on the back of an old church pew, ♪ 975 01:01:32,036 --> 01:01:37,563 ♪ I learned to walk in the ways of light and truth ♪ 976 01:01:37,737 --> 01:01:43,047 ♪ and I was told not to speak till I was spoken to. ♪ 977 01:01:43,221 --> 01:01:45,963 ♪ I heard it preached, 978 01:01:46,137 --> 01:01:48,487 ♪ what I should and I should not do ♪ 979 01:01:48,661 --> 01:01:49,880 ♪ and the choir sang... 980 01:01:50,054 --> 01:01:55,363 ♪ Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh... ♪ 981 01:01:55,537 --> 01:02:00,629 ♪ Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh 982 01:02:00,804 --> 01:02:03,241 ♪ I tried to be a good boy, 983 01:02:03,415 --> 01:02:06,331 ♪ but I ain't a boy no more. 984 01:02:06,505 --> 01:02:12,076 ♪ I've seen some things that a man just can't ignore ♪ 985 01:02:12,250 --> 01:02:17,951 ♪ and this world's gonna see what I'm standing for. ♪ 986 01:02:18,125 --> 01:02:24,001 ♪ I've kept my peace, but I can't hold my tongue anymore. ♪ 987 01:02:24,175 --> 01:02:29,571 ♪ You can't buy my silence, you can't still my voice, ♪ 988 01:02:29,746 --> 01:02:36,404 ♪ you can't keep me quiet, I will bring the noise. ♪ 989 01:02:36,578 --> 01:02:41,105 ♪ Try to beat me down, tell me to shut my mouth ♪ 990 01:02:41,279 --> 01:02:47,764 ♪ but there's a time to speak and the time is now... ♪ 991 01:02:47,938 --> 01:02:53,465 ♪ Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh... ♪ 992 01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:58,731 ♪ Woh, oh oh oh oh oh oh 993 01:02:58,905 --> 01:03:03,910 ♪ The squeaky wheel is always getting greased. ♪ 994 01:03:04,084 --> 01:03:06,652 ♪ Well, I've been sitting still, ♪ 995 01:03:06,826 --> 01:03:10,090 ♪ parked here on the side of the street. ♪ 996 01:03:10,264 --> 01:03:15,226 ♪ Always tiptoeing, trying not to wake the beast ♪ 997 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,445 ♪ oh, but here I come, 998 01:03:17,619 --> 01:03:21,754 ♪ all you monsters had better run from me. ♪ 999 01:03:21,928 --> 01:03:27,194 ♪ You can't buy my silence, you can't still my voice, ♪ 1000 01:03:27,368 --> 01:03:34,201 ♪ you can't keep me quiet, I will bring the noise. ♪ 1001 01:03:34,375 --> 01:03:38,902 ♪ Try to beat me down, tell me to shut my mouth ♪ 1002 01:03:39,076 --> 01:03:47,127 ♪ but there's a time to speak and the time is now... ♪ 1003 01:03:47,301 --> 01:03:57,572 ♪ Oh, the time is now, yeah, it's now. ♪ 1004 01:03:57,746 --> 01:04:02,708 ♪ Oh, the time is, time is now, yeah. ♪ 1005 01:04:02,882 --> 01:04:08,279 ♪ Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh... ♪ 1006 01:04:08,453 --> 01:04:13,632 ♪ Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh. 1007 01:04:13,806 --> 01:04:19,246 ♪ You can't buy my silence, you can't still my voice, ♪ 1008 01:04:19,420 --> 01:04:26,340 ♪ you can't keep me quiet, I will bring the noise. ♪ 1009 01:04:26,514 --> 01:04:30,997 ♪ Try to beat me down, tell me to shut my mouth ♪ 1010 01:04:31,171 --> 01:04:37,003 ♪ but there's a time to speak and the time is now ♪ 1011 01:04:37,177 --> 01:04:42,574 ♪ You can't buy my silence, you can't still my voice, ♪ 1012 01:04:42,748 --> 01:04:49,276 ♪ you can't keep me quiet, I will bring the noise. ♪ 1013 01:04:49,450 --> 01:04:53,890 ♪ Try to beat me down, tell me to shut my mouth ♪ 1014 01:04:54,064 --> 01:05:00,809 ♪ but there's a time to speak and the time is now... ♪ 1015 01:05:00,984 --> 01:05:05,902 ♪ Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh... ♪ 1016 01:05:06,076 --> 01:05:11,908 ♪ Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh 1017 01:05:12,082 --> 01:05:17,783 ♪ Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh... ♪ 1018 01:05:17,957 --> 01:05:22,919 ♪ Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh 75297

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