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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,640 MUSIC: Beethoven's 5th Symphony in C Minor 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,880 Traditionally, the story of Western classical music 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,480 is told as one great male genius after another. 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,840 Across the centuries, many composers have been inspired by female singers 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,040 to write dazzling roles for women. 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,280 But what about works written by a female composer? 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,240 That's a different matter altogether. 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,240 I can count on the fingers of one hand 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,480 the ones that I've performed in. 10 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:38,320 I'm an opera singer who's studied and performed all over the world. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,080 OPERATIC SINGING 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,560 And only now am I seeing female composers taken seriously. 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,880 Because the truth is that women, 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,480 despite facing all kinds of challenges, have always composed. 15 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:57,400 They've produced great works, like this one by Florence Price. 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,440 It's just that time has not been kind, or even 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,120 fair, in preserving their legacy. 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,560 So why is that? 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,160 From all the female composers over the past millennium, I've picked 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,440 five exceptional ones who helped shape Western musical history. 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Women who had to fight to fulfil their ambitions 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,880 and overcome the obstacles that society placed in their way. 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,760 Through incredible talent... 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,600 By the time she was 20 years old she was a superstar. 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,600 ..and dogged determination. 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,200 This was her piano and she would say occasionally 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,560 she would find herself like this, asleep on the keys. 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,600 It's a story that will take us 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,400 from the creative powerhouse of the medieval convent, 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,880 to the beauty and brutality of Florence's Medici court. 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,680 From conflicted sexual politics in the 19th century, 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,280 to blatant discrimination in the 20th. 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Each of my composers found fame in her lifetime, 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,760 but then disappeared into obscurity. 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,560 Only some have gained recognition again. 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,840 All of them have stories that deserve to be told 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,240 and music that deserves to be heard. 38 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,080 In 1934, at London's Royal Albert Hall, 39 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,920 a birthday concert celebrated Dame Ethel Smyth, 40 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:34,320 one of the first women who had her music performed at the Proms. 41 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,000 Smyth, whose work is largely forgotten now, 42 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,640 once wrote, "The whole English attitude towards 43 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:44,080 "women in fields of art is ludicrous and uncivilised. 44 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,800 "How you compose is what matters." 45 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,720 Smyth was a passionate suffragette during the time 46 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,120 when women were campaigning for the right to vote. 47 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,560 She even wrote the movement's anthem, The March of the Women, 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,120 a song so well known that at a rally here at the Albert Hall in 1911, 49 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,280 the crowd burst into a spontaneous rendition of it. 50 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,240 # March, march, swing you along 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,080 # Wide blows our banner and hope is waking. # 52 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,520 So this is where Ethel Smyth conducted her rousing chorus, 53 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,120 March of the Women. 54 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,760 Yes, back in 1911, this hall would have been filled with people 55 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,560 supporting the suffragette and suffragist movement. 56 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,360 She had written the music. You can hear their voices now. 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,520 She was handed her baton by Emmeline Pankhurst, no less. 58 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,920 "I feel I must fight for my music", Smyth once said. 59 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,360 At every stage in a young girl's live, 60 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,200 there were barriers put in her way and the really sad thing is, 61 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,760 we don't know of the 99% of women who were silenced 62 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,560 early on in their careers, who had the talent, 63 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,680 had exceptional ability, but simply did not have access to 64 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,480 education, support and even when they do succeed 65 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,120 in writing music, then they don't have access to the 66 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,960 spaces for that music to be performed. 67 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:12,760 The composers who managed to surmount the numerous barriers - 68 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,920 how did they manage it? 69 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,040 There is a T-shirt that says something like, you know, 70 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,920 "Well-behaved women rarely make history." 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,200 So determination, I think, is the key quality of every woman 72 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,960 who continued to pursue her compositional career. 73 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:37,440 I think, also, a kind of sheer love of creation, of making that music. 74 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,040 All that is found in the story of Hildegard, who lived 75 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,040 here in the German town of Bingen in the 12th century, 76 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:53,520 and revolutionised her era's main musical form, religious song. 77 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,000 And her story shows how a composer's work 78 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,400 can disappear for centuries before attracting a new audience. 79 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,680 Hildegard is the very first composer in the history of Western music, 80 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:10,240 male or female, who we really know about. And what a composer she was. 81 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,840 For me, her music is genuinely spine-tingling, 82 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:15,800 and way ahead of its time. 83 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,800 Hildegard's soaring compositions anticipated polyphony, 84 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,200 the combination of melodies 85 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,000 in a single verse that became the foundation of Western music. 86 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,840 What's even more remarkable is that she achieved 87 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:41,640 all of this in an era when the church stuck rigidly to 88 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:47,320 St Paul's doctrine that women should remain silent in churches. 89 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,120 They weren't even allowed to join in with the singing. 90 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,480 They had to mime along. 91 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,840 BARITONE CLASSICAL SINGING 92 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:04,200 In a male-dominated society based on the Bible, Eve's role in the fall 93 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,200 from grace cast women as seductresses, 94 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,400 whose voices led men astray. 95 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Instead of an arranged marriage, 96 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,960 Hildegard was placed in a convent by her parents when she was eight. 97 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,680 Ironically, nuns had more musical freedom than most other women. 98 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,240 You put them in a convent, they can sing as much as they like. 99 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,880 And, my God, there is some fabulous music. 100 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,040 They're safe, they're sequestered 101 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,160 and their music can take you to the divine. 102 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,920 Hildegard ended up running the convent and her own music was 103 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:45,000 inspired by a remarkable series of visions in 1141. 104 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,440 Can you tell us a little bit about these visions? 105 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:53,840 She says, "There, in my 43rd year, there was coming very 106 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:57,840 "brilliant, fury light out of heaven. 107 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:01,840 "And this light was flooding my mind." 108 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:08,200 And then she hears a heavenly voice and this voice commands, 109 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,400 "Tell and write down what you see and hear." 110 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,960 So contrary to our commonly held beliefs that people are very 111 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,040 restricted in the convent life, 112 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,280 Hildegard suddenly had an almost divine freedom to compose. 113 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:31,000 In every aspect, she was creating her own universe. A visionary. 114 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,600 A visionary universe. She is doing strange things in her monastery. 115 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Nuns are standing in the choir, 116 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,360 they have open hair, 117 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,200 they wear golden crowns. 118 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,880 They have silk garments on. 119 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,640 She must have been aware that she was ahead of her time. 120 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:58,320 Yes, because you can easily hear and detect something, this is Hildegard. 121 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Because she has a very, so to say, ecstatic language. 122 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,320 SOPRANO CLASSICAL SINGING 123 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,520 Over the next decade, Hildegard composed 77 musical pieces 124 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,320 sung by her nuns at religious ceremonies and, fortunately, 125 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,880 they were collected, along with her other writings, in illuminated 126 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,480 manuscripts like this one, dating from around 1150. 127 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Until the Middle Ages, music was an oral tradition. 128 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,720 It was in monasteries 129 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,200 and convents like Hildegard's that scribes first wrote it down. 130 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:43,360 This is the only surviving volume of Hildegard's collected works 131 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,920 that she was directly involved in putting together. 132 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,000 It looks like a treasure trove. 133 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,840 These are individual sheets of music that were used to 134 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,600 sing from in Hildegard's abbey. 135 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,440 You can see here stains on the music. 136 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Stitches, even, in the parchment. 137 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,240 Quite familiar to people who really get a lot of wear 138 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,280 and tear out of their music, like I do. 139 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,880 What a piece of history. 140 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,640 SOPRANO CLASSICAL SINGING 141 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,360 Translated from the Latin, Hildegard's language is not 142 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,440 what I'd expected from a woman closeted behind convent walls. 143 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:40,000 It's overflowing with exuberance and even sensual imagery. 144 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Greenness and gardens, growth and fire. 145 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,720 And purity and womanhood. 146 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,200 BELL TOLLS 147 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,560 This Benedictine abbey near Bingen 148 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:08,520 is still run in Hildegard's name, 149 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,240 and the sisters here still sing 150 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,000 Hildegard's revolutionary compositions. 151 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,560 Back then, the musical rules - laid down by men, of course - 152 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,920 stressed simplicity and austerity. 153 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,400 But in Hildegard's far more expansive pieces, words and melodies 154 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:30,080 flow and work together, so I've come for a lesson in how to sing one. 155 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:36,520 # Caritas. # 156 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,120 That's all you need. It's not so easy. No, it is not. 157 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,840 I'm looking at what you're reading here and it looks very 158 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,480 different to the music I've grown up reading my whole life. 159 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,480 How can you describe what this is? 160 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:06,480 The most important thing is that you have sort of meditated the text. 161 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:12,160 We have in this music a very near connection between the text 162 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,560 and the melody. This connection gives 163 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:17,400 what you have to do with the melody. 164 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,040 Also, the accent of the word is important. 165 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,240 CA-ritas. CA-ritas. 166 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,320 And not Carit-AS. Of course. It's the accent from the Latin word. 167 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,400 # Ca-a-a-a... # 168 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,800 And then you have the flow from the first accent of this word. 169 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,920 And we have to consider here, 170 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,640 when you have two notes on the same level, you have to sing both. 171 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:42,880 You have to... 172 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,160 # Aa-aa-aa... # OK. 173 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,280 That's also important for the flow of the melody. OK. 174 00:11:52,160 --> 00:12:06,240 # Caritas. # 175 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,320 Caritas means love. Yes. 176 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,880 And you will find in the Bible, "God is love." 177 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,440 And this is the image of God for Hildegard. 178 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,520 Abundat in omnia. 179 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,640 Which means flowing in everything. In everything. That's right. 180 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,960 MUSIC: Caritas by Hildegard von Bingen 181 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Hildegard created a kind of republic of women within her 182 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,760 convent walls, united by shared musical experience. 183 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,880 We all know the emotional power of singing. 184 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,280 And we all know the emotional power of hearing other 185 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,600 voices around you and becoming part of a whole. 186 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,320 And you were singing music of the beauty at which Hildegard was 187 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,440 composing it, then you were part, in all senses, of something bigger. 188 00:12:54,680 --> 00:13:00,520 Hildegard died in 1179 at the grand old age of 81. 189 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,680 Her remains are contained in a gold casket here at the parish 190 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:06,000 church of St Hildegard. 191 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,720 During her lifetime, Hildegard was something of a celebrity in Germany. 192 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,040 But over the centuries, 193 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,360 two male French monks called Adam of St Victor and Leonine 194 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,960 have been credited as the earliest identifiable composers. 195 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,160 The first mention in a reference book of Hildegard's music 196 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,080 only came in the late 20th century. 197 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,000 Then in 1983, a CD called A Feather on the Breath of God 198 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,160 brought her compositions to a much wider audience. 199 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,880 Albums of very early music didn't exactly fly off the shelves. 200 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,080 And so there was very little expectation for commercial success. 201 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,120 In fact, even the sound engineer had said, "Lovely music. 202 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,200 "Shame no-one will buy it." But boy, was he wrong! 203 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Hildegard's music struck a chord with audiences 204 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,960 and that album sold over half a million copies. 205 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,640 Nearly 1,000 years since Hildegard composed it, 206 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,280 her music has been receiving the attention it deserves. 207 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,920 And I think she would have liked 208 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,120 some of the surprising ways it's been reinvented. 209 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,880 PERCUSSIVE AND METALLIC SOUNDS 210 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Like this 2012 ambient album produced by Guy Sigsworth, 211 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,800 whose clients include Madonna and Bjork. 212 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,840 I didn't want this to be a kind of hair shirt, difficult, purist 213 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,560 classical record that would kind of scare people off. 214 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,680 Because to me, Hildegard's music has a kind of generosity, 215 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,280 a sort of ravishing luxury to it. 216 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,600 STRINGS RESONATE 217 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,360 And so I wanted to make sure that we were true to that. 218 00:14:51,120 --> 00:15:03,120 # Caritas. # 219 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,400 Therefore, I wanted to find colours that you could complement 220 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,520 these beautiful rhapsodic melodies. 221 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,440 You're not taking liberties with the music. 222 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,280 You're discovering the liberties that are in the music. 223 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,720 And that's what I was trying to do with Hildegard. 224 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,920 My next composer lived here in the Italian 225 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,160 city of Florence in the 17th century. 226 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Like Hildegard before her, Francesca Caccini lived in an era where 227 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,320 young women's choices were incredibly restricted. 228 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,200 If they don't get put into convents, then they will have to be married. 229 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,000 Because they cannot be respectable and autonomous if they're not. 230 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Once they're married, that means becoming a breeding 231 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,760 cow for children. And there's no room for them 232 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,360 to have any kind of professional engagement in the world. 233 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,600 STRING MUSIC PLAYS 234 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,960 Yet Francesca Caccini managed to become one of her generation's 235 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,560 most successful composers. So how did she do it? 236 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,040 Hard work, determination, 237 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,800 incredible talent, of course, 238 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,280 played their part. 239 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,680 But Caccini was born lucky, too. 240 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,000 VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYS 241 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,680 In the 17th century, 242 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,560 a beautiful singing voice was much prized in Italian music 243 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,600 with composer Claudio Monteverdi in Venice 244 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,200 pioneering the new art form of opera. 245 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,000 And since the late 1500s, 246 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,920 Italian courts had allowed female servants to become paid singers. 247 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Some of them began to compose, too. 248 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,600 RENAISSANCE CHORAL MUSIC 249 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,960 The Florentine court was ruled over 250 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,080 by the all-powerful Medici clan. 251 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,760 During the Renaissance, the Medicis were generous patrons of the arts. 252 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,600 But they governed Florence with an iron fist. 253 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,920 It was full of creativity and full of beauty. 254 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:11,120 But it was equally, I think, full of corruption and brutality. 255 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,560 You know, they may look civilised, 256 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,040 They may look cultured, 257 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,840 but if your daughter-in-law or your brother-in-law 258 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,760 causes trouble, there is a dungeon. 259 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,400 There is a prison. 260 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,400 RENAISSANCE CHORAL MUSIC 261 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,920 In 1607, 20-year-old Caccini found a place with the Medicis, whose 262 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,360 main residence was here at the Pitti Palace. 263 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:38,520 She was basically a servant, but a servant whose job was to sing 264 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,760 and compose music. 265 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,880 So here we are in the main palace of the Medicis. 266 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,840 So how did their court help the careers of female 267 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,800 artists like Caccini? 268 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Well, first of all, we have to remember that Florence at that 269 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,560 time was one of the most important, 270 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,080 if not the most important city, in Italy, and perhaps in the world. 271 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,640 So this was like being in Hollywood. 272 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,600 How successful was Francesca Caccini as a singer and a composer? 273 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,280 She was probably the first diva in history. 274 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,400 She was a very talented girl. 275 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,160 She made her grand debut when she was 13-years-old and 276 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:23,480 by the time she was 20-years-old, she was a superstar here at court. 277 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,720 So what was working life like, day-to-day, for Francesca Caccini? 278 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,800 She was the main teacher in the palace. 279 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,760 And also she had to compose music on demand, you know. 280 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,960 She was commissioned music with very short notice. 281 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,080 Something like, 282 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,840 "Hey, hey, Francesca, we need a new piece for next week." 283 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,080 Caccini was incredibly prolific, 284 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,920 yet her music is not well known today. 285 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,840 To me, her songs feel very modern, 286 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,400 soulful and even bluesy. 287 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,360 I wanted to try singing one. 288 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,160 First sight reading but... We try. We try. 289 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,320 SHE SINGS IN ITALIAN 290 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,600 Caccini, like all woman of her era, 291 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,440 lived under strict guidelines for virtuous behaviour. 292 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,840 "Her own singing voice..." 293 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,600 a contemporary Christopher Bronzini wrote, 294 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,440 "..had such stunning effects 295 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,200 "on her listeners that she changed them from what they had been." 296 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,400 A great compliment, but hazardous, too. 297 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:18,680 Florence's courtesans were notorious for singing that lured men into sin. 298 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,200 So song would be connected with Eve and the temptress. 299 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,840 RENAISSANCE SOPRANO SINGING 300 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,240 Perhaps this is why Bronzini was at pains to stress that 301 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,400 Caccini wasn't favoured by the gifts of nature. 302 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,640 In other words, she wasn't attractive. 303 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,200 Because women who had the whole package 304 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,240 were just way too threatening. 305 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,000 RESONANT STRING MUSIC 306 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,400 But Caccini thrived both as a singer and composer of 307 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,040 vocal and theatrical works. 308 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,120 The Medicis, who owned the rights to her music, 309 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,280 even paid for some of them to be published. 310 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,120 I've come to Florence's National Central Library to examine 311 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:11,840 an edition of Caccini's songs from 1618, when she was 31. 312 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,240 There are only three of these that survived 313 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,920 and this one I'm holding here is the best preserved of them. 314 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,280 The first thing that's so interesting about this is 315 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,560 that the biggest thing in the title 316 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,640 is the name of the Cardinale de Medici. 317 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,280 So you can see immediately, Francesca Caccini, you know, 318 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,120 had to play by the rules of the game. 319 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,200 But the songs can feel slightly subversive. 320 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,840 Like the piece I sang earlier. 321 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,920 This is a lament 322 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,960 that talks about... 323 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,440 ..a burning desire. 324 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,000 SHE SINGS IN ITALIAN 325 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,720 There's a b natural. 326 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,640 Now, this note, this b natural, 327 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,240 is not a part of this key. 328 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:18,000 To me, sort of expresses, like, a spur of colour. 329 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,640 A spur of desire. 330 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,240 And in fact, the text that she chose to make this note 331 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:30,720 appear on is, "You can well see in my face my torment." 332 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,600 And, you know, I look at this text 333 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,840 and we've got a woman here who is 334 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,040 constrained by the rules of court life. 335 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,600 The phrase starts to expand as well, 336 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,040 to reflect this desire to reach out. 337 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,720 But, of course, she has to turn back... 338 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,040 ..to her key, to her constraints. 339 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,920 LIVELY VIOLIN MUSIC 340 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,320 In 1621, the death of Grand Duke Cosimo II allowed 341 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Caccini to write what is said to 342 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,920 be the first surviving opera by a woman. 343 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,400 Cosimo's son was only 11 and until he came of age, his mother, 344 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,440 the formidable Maria Maddalena, ruled the Medici court as regent. 345 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,120 You did get occasionally very powerful women. 346 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:24,360 We had Queen Elizabeth I in England. 347 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:26,040 In fact, at this time, 348 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,840 the Florentine court was entirely run by women. 349 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,520 And a lot of the opera really is justifying the fact that 350 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,160 women can rule. 351 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,320 LUTE MUSIC 352 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,960 Of course, this was done while being suitably pious and virtuous. 353 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,480 Though other operas written at the time featured remarkable women, 354 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,720 36-year-old Caccini's stands out for its celebration of female strength. 355 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,800 Melissa, a good sorceress, rescues Ruggiero, 356 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,560 a knight, from the clutches of an evil sorceress. 357 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,040 LUTE MUSIC CONTINUES 358 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,200 The real superhero of the story is Melissa. 359 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,400 And Melissa may well have been based on the character 360 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,160 of the archduchess herself, Maria Maddalena. 361 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,560 RENAISSANCE MUSIC PLAYS 362 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,320 The premiere of The Liberation of Ruggiero took place here, 363 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,040 at Maddalena's Villa di Poggio Imperiale. 364 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,320 Imagine the scene. 365 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:29,400 It's February 3rd 1625, the day of the Villa's grand opening, 366 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,000 and all the great and the good in Florentine society 367 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,720 are arriving in the carriages up a beautiful wide avenue. 368 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,520 The high point of the celebrations is the premiere of Caccini's 369 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,280 proto-opera. 370 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:48,640 It took place not inside, but in a loggia, an outside covered gallery. 371 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,600 ITALIAN OPERATIC SINGING 372 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:01,800 It's a major piece of music. 373 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,520 It's not just a little interesting piece because it's by a woman. 374 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,280 In the four centuries since, 375 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,560 performances of Caccini's opera have been rare. 376 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,000 This version, set in Edwardian Brighton, 377 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,680 is one of the first times it's been staged in Britain. 378 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,400 THEY SING IN ITALIAN 379 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,400 She was brought up singing concerted music for female voices. 380 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,920 That's the real characteristic of this opera that makes it glorious. 381 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,720 THEY SING IN ITALIAN 382 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,120 The whole moral of the story, at the end, which is 383 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:53,360 the final chorus, really, is that it's all right. 384 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:57,720 Women can rule, but men can still be men and women can still be women. 385 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,000 THEY SING IN ITALIAN 386 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,160 And I have heard rumours of other performances that might be mounted, 387 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,200 so if we've started something like that, then I'm totally thrilled. 388 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,680 APPLAUSE 389 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,560 SOFT STRING MUSIC 390 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,240 Not long after Caccini's death, around 1641, 391 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,360 the Age of Enlightenment began in Europe. 392 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,880 You might have thought this championing of reason 393 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,840 and liberty over dogma and tradition would help 394 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,240 transform the lives of women like my next composer, Clara Schumann. 395 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,520 But instead, their very ability to be creative was questioned. 396 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,360 The 18th century philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau had 397 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:58,400 proclaimed, "Women in general possess 398 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,360 "no artistic sensibility nor genius. 399 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:05,040 "Their creations are as cold and pretty as women. 400 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,040 "They have an abundance of spirit but lack soul." 401 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,720 In Clara Schumann's time, there are plenty of men 402 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,280 and women who still believe that. 403 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,680 SOFT PIANO PLAYING 404 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,720 Clara was born Clara Weick here in Leipzig in 1819. 405 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,560 Piano works by German composers like Johann Sebastian Bach 406 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160 and Ludwig van Beethoven were all the rage. 407 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,240 And Clara, like many middle and upper-class girls, 408 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,600 learned to play the piano. 409 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,960 Most just played for family and friends at home, 410 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,160 but Clara was a prodigy. 411 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,120 And her father Friedrich was what today we might call a Tiger Dad. 412 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,280 Mozart's piano concerts as a child half a century before had 413 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,560 left the public hungry for more - 414 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,840 even if the performer was a girl. 415 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,720 There was good money to be made, too, 416 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,680 as long as the stage image was suitably demure. 417 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,840 She needed to appear slightly melancholy, 418 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,400 the girl with the sad eyes. 419 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,440 A certain innocence tying in with that. 420 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,640 And it was cultivated really ruthlessly by the family, 421 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,160 whereas behind the scenes, Clara was actually quite feisty. 422 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,880 But women of this era were expected to keep feistiness under wraps. 423 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,640 In the 19th century, the piano was one of the very few 424 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,000 instruments considered acceptable for a woman to play. 425 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,560 And the reasoning for this has to do with the male 426 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,400 perception of the female body. 427 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,200 To start with, I'm sitting down, 428 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,680 so this would preserve my modesty, apparently. 429 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,600 Also, there are no rapid, unladylike movements. 430 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Unlike the violin, which was considered very unsuitable, 431 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,320 all that head bending and rapid arm movements, 432 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,920 not to mention the frisson from the feminine-like curves 433 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200 of the instrument itself. 434 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,680 And the cello? 435 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,040 Don't even go there. 436 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,920 Clara gave her first solo concert aged 11. 437 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,320 And by her mid-teens, 438 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,920 she'd become one of Europe's great concert pianists. 439 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Mostly she performed other people's work, 440 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,040 but the custom was that pianists would also play some of their own. 441 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,040 And composing was often a joy for Clara, who once wrote, 442 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,360 "There's nothing that surpasses the joy of creation." 443 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,400 Clara's father encouraged her to compose. 444 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,640 It might not have been for the best of reasons, 445 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,240 but they were good, hard-headed commercial reasons. 446 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,040 He could put his daughter up there as not only the virtuoso of 447 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,760 her generation, but as somebody who could just write 448 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,280 a piano concerto at 15. 449 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,120 For decades, pianist Lucy Parham has championed 450 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Clara's piano works, including that precocious piano concerto. 451 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,640 It starts like that and the piano has this beautiful long solo, 452 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,440 which was really unusual at that time. 453 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,160 It's so lyrical but it's also... It's got quite a lot of depth. 454 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,880 I imagine her as being a woman, 455 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,680 or a child at that point, who was 456 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,360 kept very much at home, you know, under the tutelage of her father. 457 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,360 So, really, music was the only way 458 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,440 she could let out all these feelings. 459 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,360 It's very beautiful, but then we've had the Annee, 460 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,000 and then she goes into all these flying, tense double thirds 461 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,160 and she's like, "Look what I can do, I'm really clever." 462 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,440 Clara draws on the passionate, tempestuous 463 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,600 music of 19th-century Romanticism. 464 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,760 This was rather radical, 465 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,440 as women were supposed to compose gentle, undemanding pieces. 466 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,920 And that's the opening. Gosh. 467 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,440 But there was a critic who said that if the name of the composer were not 468 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,840 in the title, one would never have known it was written by a woman. 469 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,800 And they were right. Because it's so full of passion and strength. 470 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,160 She was a strong woman. 471 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,600 Clara's father worried what would happen to her composing 472 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,520 when she married. 473 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,520 At the time, a wife's only priority was supposed to be her husband 474 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,400 and children. 475 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,880 And Freidrich wasn't happy 476 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,800 when Clara fell for one of his own students, Robert Schumann. 477 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,400 Robert would become one of the 19th century's greatest composers. 478 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,560 And his relationship with Clara is 479 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,680 one of music's great love affairs, 480 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,720 encoded in their compositions. 481 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,920 Like this nocturne by Clara. 482 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,480 This piece is really significant because it has a little 483 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,160 motif in it that pervaded their whole relationship. 484 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,400 And it starts like this... 485 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,720 So this five note, which is the five letters of her name, for Clara. 486 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,400 This theme was used by Robert 487 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,920 in some of his most famous compositions. 488 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,640 I mean, the fantasy starts like... 489 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,880 So you have... # Doo-da-da-da... # 490 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,720 There it is. 491 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,120 And even the notes at the beginning, these are the five notes. 492 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,720 So they would send each other compositions 493 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,000 and this theme meant that they were thinking of one and other. 494 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,920 It was like saying, "I love you." 495 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,640 But it was in music. It's so romantic. It's so romantic. 496 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,280 And Robert Schumann described this as, "Like the buds before the wings 497 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,760 "of colour are exploded into open splendour." 498 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,640 And that would have meant so much to her 499 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,480 because she really lacked confidence 500 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,360 and when he said something 501 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:53,960 beautiful about her compositions, it gave her confidence to compose more. 502 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,720 But progressive as he was, Robert was also a creature of his time. 503 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,240 "Men stand higher than women", he wrote. 504 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,680 Robert, in the end, for all his grand words about compositional 505 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,160 collaboration, about how they were both going to 506 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,160 develop their art together, in the end, he wanted his tea on the table. 507 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,560 This is a reproduction of a book that Robert gave to Clara as 508 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,120 a Christmas present in 1839, the year before they married. 509 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,480 His initials are here. R.S. 510 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,240 He had a special cover made 511 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:33,240 and embossed with gold lettering saying, 512 00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:35,600 "Meiner Hausfrau gewidmet", 513 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,240 which means, "Dedicated to my housewife." 514 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:40,960 This is a cookbook. 515 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,280 Clara herself had written to Robert earlier in the year, "I will 516 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,160 "do everything possible to set myself up so well 517 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,960 "that you're at peace." 518 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,760 But she'd also written, "Must I bury my art now? 519 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,920 "Love is all very beautiful but, but..." 520 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,240 After marriage, the couple lived in an apartment in this building here. 521 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,400 Clara refused to give up her concerts, but she seemed to 522 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,760 accept that her composing was not as important as his. 523 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,760 At public recitals, Clara performed new works by Robert. 524 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,720 Her own were only performed at home. 525 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,360 Add children into the mix - and Robert's developing mental 526 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,360 illness - and it's surprising she wrote music at all. 527 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:32,680 Yet in 1846, Clara composed a masterpiece - this piano trio. 528 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,280 The story of this piano trio is even more poignant 529 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,360 when you consider what Clara was dealing with at the time. 530 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,880 Not only did she have four young children, 531 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,880 but she was pregnant with a fifth, which then miscarried. 532 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,200 And as if that wasn't enough, 533 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,720 Robert also had a mental collapse during the same time. 534 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,720 Despite all of this, 535 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:05,840 Clara still found great satisfaction in writing her trio. 536 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,760 She said, "There is nothing better than composing something oneself, 537 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,920 "then hearing it played." 538 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,640 But when Robert wrote his own piano trio shortly after, 539 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,040 all of her self-doubt crept back in. 540 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,040 Of course her piece, she said, 541 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,320 "Remains the work of a woman." 542 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,920 SOFT PIANO MUSIC 543 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,800 It's only in the 21st century that interest has really 544 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,880 revived in the 50 or so piano works Clara Schumann left behind. 545 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,040 After Robert's death, Clara spent the next 40 years 546 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,720 focused on his legacy, rather than her own. 547 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,160 She stopped composing completely. 548 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,840 The fact that she chose performance over composition, I think 549 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,600 speaks to that powerful idea that women are allowed on stage to 550 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,560 perform other people's works. 551 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,560 They are interpreters, they are muses. 552 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,360 She once wrote, "A woman must not desire to compose. 553 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,480 "There has never yet been one able to do it. 554 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,760 "Should I expect to be the one?" 555 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,240 It feels like a great loss. 556 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,720 For Clara, personally, and for all of us 557 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:29,800 who missed out on more works from this incredibly talented woman. 558 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,040 What could Clara Schumann have achieved today? 559 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,120 I think she would have achieved superstardom. 560 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,120 She would probably have had her pieces played at the Proms 561 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,480 and she would have, you know, been a real composer-pianist 562 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,480 in the tradition of all the great composer-pianists. 563 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:57,880 By the 1930s, the situation of women in Western music was improving. 564 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,480 Female musicians in Britain 565 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,760 and America now played in full-size symphony orchestras. 566 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:09,280 But performances of symphonies by female composers remained rare. 567 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,600 American composer Florence Price was especially aware 568 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,160 of the obstacles she faced with this piece, her Symphony Number One. 569 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:32,360 "I have two handicaps", she once wrote. "Those of sex and race. 570 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,440 "I'm a woman and I have negro blood in my veins." 571 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,400 But it was performed by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra in 1933. 572 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:45,360 The premiere was a genuinely historic event. 573 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,600 The first performance by a major orchestra of a symphony 574 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,880 by an African-American woman. 575 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,160 And the perception was rapturous. 576 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,080 One critic wrote that it was a faultless work 577 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,240 worthy of a place in the regular repertoire. 578 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,040 So how did Price pull this off? 579 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,680 Price's story and music are grounded here, in America's Deep South. 580 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,880 She was born in 1887 in Arkansas. 581 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,960 Society remained segregated. 582 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,320 Slavery had only been abolished 20 years earlier. 583 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,840 Price's family was middle-class, 584 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,560 but like these African-American children, 585 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,840 she grew up immersed in gospel songs and spirituals. 586 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,480 Price studied music at college and began to create a unique 587 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,320 musical style, mixing romanticism with gospel. 588 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,960 And in 1912, she married and started a family. 589 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,320 But there was still racial violence by mobs 590 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,200 and groups like the Ku Klux Klan. 591 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,480 After a brutal lynching in Arkansas in 1927, 592 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,320 the family moved to Chicago. 593 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,160 Florence Price's story isn't one of those fairy tales where 594 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,760 she moves to the big city and everything works out fine. 595 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,600 In 1931, she made a difficult decision to divorce her 596 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,720 husband, who'd become abusive. 597 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:21,600 And she suddenly found herself raising two children on her own. 598 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,440 So she went out to work, making money by playing the organ to 599 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,120 accompany silent movie screenings 600 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,360 and composing radio jingles. 601 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,080 And somehow, she still carved out the time 602 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,120 to write her own compositions. 603 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,320 PIANO MUSIC 604 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,800 She wrote orchestral and chamber works, violin and piano concertos. 605 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,920 PIANO MUSIC CONTINUES 606 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,480 And arrangements of traditional spirituals, 607 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,480 one of which was sung in 1939 at a momentous concert in Washington DC. 608 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,320 NEWS ARCHIVE: The nation's most impressive Easter demonstration. 609 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,640 75,000 massed before Lincoln Memorial to hear 610 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,680 Marian Anderson, coloured contralto, make her capital 611 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,120 debut at the great emancipator's shrine. 612 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,600 Washington's Concert Hall refused to let a non-white artist 613 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,680 perform inside. Eleanor Roosevelt, the First Lady, was furious 614 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,320 and the concert was moved outdoors. 615 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,920 This historic set closed with Price's 616 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,600 arrangement of My Soul's Been Anchored in the Lord. 617 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,480 # In the Lord, in the Lord 618 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,640 # My soul's been anchored in the Lord 619 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,280 # In the Lord, in the Lord 620 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,680 # My soul's been anchored in the Lord. # 621 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,800 Of course, singing styles have changed since the 1930s. 622 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,800 So how should a contemporary, classically-trained 623 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,040 singer like me approach My Soul's Been Anchored in the Lord? 624 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,800 # In the Lord... # 625 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,800 I went to meet Mica Paris, whose background is in gospel music. 626 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,000 The first thing I'm thinking about is I have to evoke enough emotion 627 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,680 so that the audience are totally taken by the message. 628 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,960 And think about how each lyric is going to pierce the person 629 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,400 listening. This first phrase, it's a short phrase, "In de Lord", 630 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,480 so how do you start to sing it? You're going to go... 631 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:30,320 # In the Lord... # 632 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,840 And you hear the church, 633 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,960 because that's why the church is so brilliant because that acoustic... 634 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:41,160 # In the Lord, in the Lord. # 635 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,640 And give it a bit of welly. 636 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,000 You see what happens. 637 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,680 You start to feel something. Shall we sing it together? 638 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,160 Yeah. Let's try. 639 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:59,080 # In the Lord. # 640 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,480 Nice. Good, right? It felt good. It feels good, right? Yeah. 641 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,560 I mean, when we were singing it together it felt really reflective, 642 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,920 like it could be something that is both happy and melancholy. 643 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,240 At the same time, yeah. If you remember, this comes from slavery. 644 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:17,200 And in those times of slavery, 645 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,840 it was the spiritual songs that got them through. 646 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,680 When they were on those cotton fields, 647 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,440 they were trying to keep motivated... 648 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,360 Keep going. ..keep going. And that's where gospel comes from. 649 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,040 Gospel comes from that time of that's all they had. 650 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,720 # In the Lord 651 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:39,000 # In the Lord 652 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:48,640 # My soul's been anchored in the Lord. # 653 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,880 That was dope. Am I allowed to say that? I can't believe it. 654 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,600 That was gorgeous. 655 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,840 By the early 1950s, Price's work was performed across the USA 656 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,080 and here in London, too. 657 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,400 The Royal Albert Hall, founded by Queen Victoria to promote 658 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,640 the arts, was now bringing music to the masses via the Proms. 659 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:21,720 And in 1950, Marian Anderson also performed here... 660 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,880 ..as I discovered in the archives. 661 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,400 And she does an amazing programme with many of the great composers. 662 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,760 Bach, Brahms, Donizetti, Britten and at the very end, 663 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,880 she saved for last, My Soul's Been Anchored in the Lord. 664 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,280 After Price's death in 1953, 665 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,800 her sweeping melodies fell out of favour, 666 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,840 replaced by the harder edged music of modernism. 667 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,280 But recently, interest in her has rekindled. 668 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,880 Especially since 2009, 669 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,040 when dozens of scores were found 670 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,080 in an abandoned house in Illinois 671 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,040 that Price used as a summer home. 672 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,160 They included two lost violin concertos 673 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,400 and an unheard fourth Symphony. 674 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,480 Dr Shirley Thompson, a British composer, selected one of these 675 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:22,080 newly-found works to be performed and recorded the very first time. 676 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,200 The piece she picked is Price's concert overture number two. 677 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:31,120 The power is in this depth of feeling, which is not, 678 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,160 I don't think it's an easy thing to achieve 679 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,600 but I think she just has that timing that can make it happen. 680 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,000 In the musical style that Price pioneered, 681 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,600 this concerto weaves together the themes from three spirituals, 682 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,320 including Let My People Go. 683 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,880 I love the way that she uses harmonic progression. 684 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,560 I love her confidence in that journey. 685 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,120 She doesn't rush there, she just takes her time. 686 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,600 I think her pacing is perfect. 687 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,720 I think it adds this soul to classical music and the repertoire. 688 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,800 I think it brings this majesty to, and dignity to, what has happened 689 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,880 in the cotton fields, to what those people, my forefathers, suffered. 690 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,720 For conductor Jane Glover, it's an opportunity to champion 691 00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:57,120 the work of a forgotten composer who deserves a wider audience. 692 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,120 It's thrilling to play it, 693 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,480 knowing that it's been sitting in a box in a private 694 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,200 house on the south side of Chicago for decades. 695 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,960 And here we are doing it. 696 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,200 The only thing that matters is quality. 697 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,640 I think it certainly deserves a place in programmes from now on. 698 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,760 GENTLE VIOLIN MUSIC 699 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,400 In early 20th-century Britain, my last composer, 700 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,440 Elizabeth Maconchy, blazed a trail through institutional sexism 701 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,040 and the familiar challenges of family life. 702 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,560 By the time Maconchy moved to London from Ireland in 1923, 703 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,280 suffragette protests had helped many British women gain the vote. 704 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,360 But much of the musical establishment still refused 705 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,960 to take women seriously. 706 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,200 Maconchy arrived at the Royal College of Music at a time 707 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,360 when many of the tutors like the composer 708 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,480 Ralph Vaughan Williams were promoting 709 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,440 a British pastoral school of music. 710 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,880 But Maconchy preferred cutting-edge continental 711 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,360 composers like Bela Bartok. 712 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,280 Bartok was a big influence for her? 713 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,440 I think so, yes. 714 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,760 And most of the tutors and professors there were not 715 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,320 really involved in new music, so they would kind of go, "Oh!" 716 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,000 Like this if she played a chord that 717 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,680 instead of being that, was that. 718 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,480 But that's Bartok. It's not a wrong note. 719 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,400 And ingrained sexism reared its ugly head 720 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,320 when Maconchy applied for the prestigious Mendelssohn scholarship. 721 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,160 The head of the college came up to 722 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,400 me and congratulated me on getting the scholarship. 723 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,960 And I said, "But I didn't get it, you gave it to David Evans." 724 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,120 And he said, "Oh, they must have changed it after I'd left. 725 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,040 "Anyway, if we'd given to you'd only have got married 726 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,800 "and never written another note." 727 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,920 Well, I did get married but I did continue to write many notes. 728 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,800 Maconchy's husband, 729 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,240 William LeFanu, was a great supporter of his wife's composing. 730 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,720 And in 1930, some of Maconchy's many notes led to sudden success 731 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:40,560 when this piece, The Land, was accepted at the Proms. 732 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,080 Both Vaughan Williams and Holst were there at the Proms 733 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,680 and Holst went up to my father and said, 734 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,480 "Keep her at it, keep her at it." 735 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,920 He did know that he didn't need to keep her at it, 736 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,560 because my mother was absolutely so strong in her 737 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,520 vocation as a composer. Nothing would make her swerve from it. 738 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,320 Maconchy was just 23 when The Land was performed. 739 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,560 "Girl composer triumphs", wrote one newspaper. 740 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:14,920 That kind of attitude meant it took Maconchy nearly a decade to find 741 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,160 a publishing deal. 742 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,120 One found that there was a great prejudice against girls. 743 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,560 Publishers particularly, or concert promoters, 744 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,240 they only thought of them as able to write little things like 745 00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:27,760 piano pieces and songs, not as serious composers. 746 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,080 And as for getting performances, 747 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,760 there was no way. 748 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,960 So, in 1931, a remarkable group of women got together and set 749 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,000 up their own London showcase for new composers, 750 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,920 including works by Maconchy. 751 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,560 This building behind me used to be the Mercury Theatre where 752 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,880 these ground-breaking performances took place. 753 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,880 But Maconchy's modernist-influenced music wasn't entirely to the 754 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,080 taste of the critics. 755 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,480 Some couldn't get past the fact that, oh, my goodness, 756 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,800 there are women composers composing pieces of, and I quote, 757 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,000 "Almost aggressive virility." 758 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:16,840 And the one lone man was producing somewhat effeminate little songs. 759 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,120 That's what you get when you do a concert based on women's music. 760 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,840 As modernist music became more mainstream in the 1940s and '50s, 761 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,880 Maconchy's career went from strength to strength. 762 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,000 These are programmes from premieres of Maconchy's 763 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,800 works at Royal Albert Hall. 764 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,800 The earliest in 1942. 765 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,280 Maconchy in a line-up with Mendelssohn, 766 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,880 Brahms, Dvorak and Tchaikovsky. 767 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,360 That's a pretty good line-up. 768 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,000 Maconchy's favourite musical form was the string quartet. 769 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,640 She wrote 13. 770 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,360 She said the thrill of composing them 771 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,480 was like combining the intuition and skill of a poet with 772 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,080 the excitement of driving a four horse carriage. 773 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,080 In the early 1940s, Britain had endured 774 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,960 the traumas of German bombing during the Blitz. 775 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,760 And this unsettling piece, 776 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,960 Maconchy's string quartet number four, struck a chord. 777 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,600 Along with Benjamin Britten's Symphony Number One, 778 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,560 Maconchy's continued composing was seen as a sign of British pluck 779 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,440 and creativity in the face of adversity. 780 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,800 Her fourth quartet was recorded by the BBC, broadcast across Europe. 781 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,760 It was a symbol that the show would go on. 782 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,560 And people loved its intensity, 783 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,280 its drive, its seriousness. 784 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,440 And for a moment, they even forgot that it was a woman who composed it, 785 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,480 because there were greater things at stake. 786 00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,600 Maconchy's personal favourite, the fifth quartet, followed in 1948. 787 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,960 It's played here by students from the Royal College of Music. 788 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,320 The group call themselves the Maconchy Quartet. 789 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,160 Nicola, the fifth string quartet was composed while both you 790 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,440 and your sister were ill. Yes. I think it's remarkable. 791 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,400 My sister had appendicitis, she was in Dublin. 792 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,280 My parents were in Ireland. 793 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,200 And then they had come back to England 794 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,160 because I was in Great Ormond Street because I'd had an adverse reaction 795 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:58,720 to a vaccination. So somehow, despite this, my mother found the 796 00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:03,200 space, even at such a worrying time, to write this wonderful quartet. 797 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,480 Like Clara Schumann, Maconchy had to manage the competing 798 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,840 demands of motherhood and creativity. 799 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,880 She did so with her usual grit and determination. 800 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,760 I can remember her playing the piano. When I'd gone to bed 801 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,960 and my sister had gone to bed, and we'd hear the piano. 802 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,040 It sounds rather romantic but it wasn't, really, 803 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,200 it was because it was the only time in the day she had to compose. 804 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,520 And in a similar way to Schumann, Maconchy wrestled with 805 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,200 self-doubt and writers block. 806 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,120 She was a very severe self critic. 807 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,720 She used to write here at this piano, 808 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:48,840 and she'd have the manuscript paper up here, 809 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,600 and then she'd throw it on the floor. 810 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,560 I've always scrapped a great deal 811 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,320 and used a great deal of manuscript paper. 812 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,160 Because I think you either write the Mozart and Schubert way 813 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,160 with the music just running down your pen onto the paper, 814 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,800 or the Beethoven way, which is 815 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,960 the hard way, with awful heart searchings 816 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,880 and scrappings and so on. 817 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,600 And that's really the way I write. 818 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,000 In 1952, one of these painfully delivered pieces, 819 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,680 Proud Thames, won a competition to be London's Coronation overture. 820 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,880 Against all the odds, Maconchy was becoming a national treasure. 821 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,880 She went on to be appointed chair of the Composers Guild of Great Britain, 822 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,400 and was even made a Dame of the British Empire. 823 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,520 And yet, since Maconchy's death 824 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,600 she's become known as one of our finest lost composers. 825 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,040 Her works have become much harder to find in the repertoire than 826 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,680 those of her male contemporaries, like Vaughan Williams or Britten. 827 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,440 Is it that she writes this quite dense, cerebral music? 828 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,480 Then again, other people wrote music like that, 829 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,760 they just happened to be men. 830 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,720 And we still hear their music. 831 00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:17,040 I don't like to accept the depressing truth that it 832 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,960 simply has to be the fact that she was a woman working in a world 833 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,800 that was, and to some extent still remains, 834 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,000 ruled by a set of values or a set of ideas about what makes 835 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,520 a great composer. And one of those things is to be born a man. 836 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,920 So how far have we actually come in the new millennium? 837 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,960 And how much is still left to do? 838 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,640 In 2013, Marin Alsop became the first woman to conduct 839 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,240 the Last Night of the Proms. 840 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,960 I'm incredibly honoured and proud to have this title. 841 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,840 But I have to say, I'm still quite shocked that it can be 2013 842 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,480 and there can be firsts for women. 843 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,160 Marin, what is it like to be a woman in classical music today? 844 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,600 Well, I think it's a much more positive outlook 845 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:22,320 and I think it's a moment of optimism and hope, but also 846 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,600 it's a moment where we can't let our guard down. 847 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,600 We have to continue to be vigilant about creating opportunities. 848 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,280 Particularly for female composers. Yes. 849 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,440 Do find the avenues opening up for them? 850 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,040 I think female composers would say that 851 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,440 there's certainly more opportunity now than there was. 852 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,120 And as a composer, you have to try things on the orchestra 853 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,640 and without those opportunities, really, 854 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,600 I don't think greatness can really exist. 855 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,960 And how important is it for the next generation of female composers 856 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,720 and conductors to know about the women who came before them, 857 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,040 and know these histories? This is critical. 858 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:06,280 Having a sense of history behind you, you know, and in front 859 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:13,480 of you, so that you feel supported is essential to feeling entitled. 860 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,320 Women need to know these stories. 861 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,320 They need to celebrate the stories. 862 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,280 Yet in 2016, 863 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,080 there were as many performances 864 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,080 of Shostakovich's string quartets in just one week, 865 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:34,040 as there have been of Maconchy's in the previous five years. 866 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,960 And the truth is, the female composers we've looked at represent 867 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:45,240 only a tiny sample of an estimated 6,000 whose work has been forgotten. 868 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,400 There's still a long way to go. 117966

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