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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,440 When I was a small boy, my parents used to drive me 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:12,760 round historic churches, searching out whatever looked interesting or odd. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,960 But soon they realised that they had created a monster. 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,560 The history of the Christian Church became my life's work. 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:29,200 For me, no other subject can rival its scale and drama. 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,040 For two thousand years, 7 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,720 Christianity has been one of the great players in world history, 8 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,000 ..inspiring faith, 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,960 but also squalid politics. 10 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,920 It is an epic story starring a cast of extraordinary people, 11 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,920 from Jesus himself and the first apostles 12 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,680 to empresses, kings and popes. 13 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,920 CROWD CHEERS 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,680 From reformers and champions of human conscience 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,960 to crusaders and sadists. 16 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:13,600 Religious belief can transform us for good or ill. 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,160 It has brought human beings to acts of criminal folly 18 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,240 as well as the highest achievements of goodness and creativity. 19 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,080 I will tell the story of both extremes. 20 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:34,040 Christianity has survived persecution, 21 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,120 splits, 22 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,800 wars of religion, 23 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,600 mockery, hatred. 24 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:45,760 Today there are two billion Christians - a third of humanity. 25 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,600 Protestant, 26 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:53,320 Catholic, Orthodox, Pentecostal and many more. 27 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Deep down the Christian faith boasts a shared core, but what is it? 28 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,680 In modern Europe, Christianity seems threatened 29 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,640 by the apathy of a secular society. 30 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,040 Will it survive? 31 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,280 Can it? 32 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,480 I'm chasing the story of Christianity across the globe, 33 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,520 coming face to face with people who have got their own take 34 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,640 on this 2,000-year-old adventure. 35 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:31,920 And where better to start than in the city which first knew Jesus the Christ? 36 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:33,680 Jerusalem. 37 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,480 RADIO PLAYS POP MUSIC 38 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,560 I'm in Jerusalem for a very good reason, 39 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,440 but it's probably not what you think. 40 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,920 We've all heard something of the Christian story. 41 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,360 Jesus, the wandering Jewish teacher, crucified by the Romans. 42 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,880 Paul, who had hunted down Christians until on the road to Damascus, 43 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:36,320 he experienced a blinding vision of Jesus Christ resurrected from the dead. 44 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,200 Paul's new-found zeal focused on people beyond the Jews - Gentiles. 45 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,120 It took him far from Jerusalem, to Rome, and it reshaped not just 46 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,760 the faith of Christ but in the end, all estern civilisation. 47 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,440 That's the familiar story of the origins of Christianity. 48 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,560 But I'm here in Jerusalem because I want to look for something else. 49 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,880 You can find clues here in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. 50 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,560 The Church is said to have been built where Jesus was crucified and buried. 51 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,360 At its heart is what's believed to be his tomb. 52 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Somehow the followers of Jesus became convinced that he rose from here to new life. 53 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,360 The belief that Jesus can overcome death is 54 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,520 the most difficult and troubling affirmation of the Christian faith. 55 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,840 Over 20 centuries it's made Christians act in heroic, 56 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:54,880 joyful, beautiful, terrible ways. 57 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,440 It's made this one of the holiest sites on earth. 58 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,320 You see, at heart Christianity is a personality cult. 59 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,960 Its core is the unprecedented idea that God became human, 60 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,080 not in a pharaoh, a king or even an emperor, 61 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,320 but in a humble peasant from Galilee. 62 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,760 And the conviction that you can meet Jesus, the son of God, 63 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,960 and transform your life is a compelling message. 64 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,320 It's what drove Christianity's relentless expansion. 65 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:40,200 But the Church built around the tomb of Jesus is also the starting point for a forgotten story, 66 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,400 a story that may overturn your preconceptions about early Christianity. 67 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,080 Pride of place in this building goes to two churches. 68 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,600 This chapel belongs to the Greek Orthodox Church. 69 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,240 Orthodoxy is a large part of the Christian story. 70 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,120 The other church with a strong presence here is actually 71 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,840 the biggest in the modern world - 72 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:07,880 Catholicism. 73 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,360 HE INTONES 74 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,280 Orthodoxy and Catholicism dominated Christianity in Europe, 75 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:20,040 in the West, for its first 15,000 years. 76 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:28,400 But as you walk around the edges of the Church you can't fail to notice other curious little chapels. 77 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,400 They're not Western or European, 78 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,640 they're Middle Eastern or African. 79 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,080 And they tell a very different story about the origins of Christianity. 80 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:45,640 Around the back of Christ's tomb is Egypt's Coptic Church. 81 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:52,680 There are plenty of other Churches represented here, but you need to know where to look. 82 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,160 Now this is the chapel of the Syriac Orthodox Church, 83 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,400 which the Greek Orthodox of course would call unorthodox. 84 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Back outside and through a side door leading up to the roof, you'll find the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. 85 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Many versions of Christian history would make this unorthodox too 86 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:25,200 and yet it's far older than better-known versions of Christianity, like Protestantism. 87 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:32,120 It's easy for tourists to dismiss these ancient churches as quaint, 88 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,000 irrelevant even, but that would be a big mistake. 89 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:42,200 These chapels contain vital clues to the story I want to tell. 90 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,160 Because the origins of the Christian faith are not in the West, 91 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,640 but here in these ancient Churches of the East. 92 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,000 For centuries Christianity flourished in the East. 93 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,640 And indeed at one point it was poised to triumph in Asia, maybe even in China. 94 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,120 The headquarters of Christianity might well have been Baghdad rather than Rome. 95 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,320 And if that had happened Western Christianity would have been very different. 96 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,120 I will trace that huge voyage... 97 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,880 ..from Jerusalem to Syria, 98 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,200 through Central Asia, 99 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,480 to the far reaches of the Asian continent. 100 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:36,920 In my journey, I'll discover how the Christian faith survived worlds away from Jerusalem. 101 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,280 I'm not giving you a history of Christian theology, though I won't 102 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,440 be afraid to plunge you into many ancient arguments about Christian faith. 103 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,640 The main character here is not Jesus or the gospels. 104 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,400 It is in fact the Church, 105 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,000 the institution of Christian faith that has fought its way through history. 106 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:13,960 It all started here in Jerusalem, when the first followers of Jesus formed a Jewish Christian Church. 107 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,440 It was led by James, whom the gospels call the brother of Jesus. 108 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,520 Here in the Old City is the Armenian Cathedral of St James. 109 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,560 His tomb is said to lie below the high altar. 110 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:42,160 The Jerusalem church probably would have remained the headquarters of a single unified Christianity. 111 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,760 But in the year 70, disaster struck. 112 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,200 A rebellion of Jews against the Romans ended in a siege of Jerusalem. 113 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:08,200 As troops finally broke into the city, the Temple went up in flames. 114 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Today its Western Wall is all that remains. 115 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,320 Christians quit the city before the siege. 116 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:34,680 Now the fledgling faith would have to survive outside its Jewish homeland. 117 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:36,880 But could it adapt? 118 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,120 That's the big test facing any world religion. 119 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,840 With Jerusalem gone where would Gentile Christians look now? 120 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,120 Well, you might think obviously west to Rome, because that's where Paul had gone. 121 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,920 But at the time it would not have seemed obvious at all. 122 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,200 Paul had been killed in Rome. So had the Apostle Peter. 123 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,160 What if you take the other road out of Jerusalem - east? 124 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,080 Today this is Urfa in south-east Turkey. 125 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,400 In the first century it was called Edessa, 126 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,080 capital of a small kingdom, 127 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,560 and wealthy because it controlled part of the main trade route east. 128 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,480 Edessa is special, because its ruler King Abgar set an important precedent here. 129 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:43,360 He chose to show his personal devotion to Jesus by adopting Christianity as the Kingdom's 130 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,040 official state religion, at least 100 years before the Romans did. 131 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,520 For the last 17 centuries, Christianity has been repeatedly linked with the state, 132 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:00,160 so in the United Kingdom, the monarch is still Supreme Governor of the Church of England. 133 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,480 And this is where it all started - in the ancient Eastern Christian kingdom of Edessa. 134 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,160 And Edessa pioneered something else that has become inseparable from Christianity... 135 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,000 HE SINGS 136 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,200 Church music. 137 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,560 Christian Edessa has long since disappeared. 138 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:47,120 After the First World War it became a community in exile, over the border in neighbouring Syria. 139 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,240 This is the only surviving descendent of that ancient Church. 140 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,280 CONGREGATION SINGS 141 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:08,200 But its liturgical chant is still based on the distinctive tradition of Edessa. 142 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:25,240 These hymns are derived from the poetry of the great 4th century Syrian theologian St Ephrem. 143 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,040 And he was building on an even earlier tradition from these lands, 144 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,160 echoing the music of the Roman Empire. 145 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,360 I found that service very touching because what we were hearing was 146 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,440 the ghost of the music of the streets and market places, 147 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,400 seized by the Church, turned into psalms and hymns, taken 148 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,280 across the western Mediterranean, 149 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,640 turned into the music of the whole Church - 150 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,160 Latin Gregorian Chant, Johann Sebastian Bach, 151 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:58,200 even the tambourines and guitars of the Pentecostals. All come from here. 152 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,480 But at the start of the 4th century, hymn singing 153 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:11,160 would have been the last thing on the minds of Christians in the western half of the Roman Empire. 154 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,520 HORN BLARES 155 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,680 In the West, most Christians wouldn't be singing the public 156 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:18,040 praises of God because it was too dangerous. 157 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Successive Roman Emperors from Nero onwards persecuted Christianity. 158 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,280 They hated it. I expect most Romans would've agreed with them. 159 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,440 In the early 4th Century, a betting man might have put 160 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,560 his money on Christianity becoming a major religion here in the East, 161 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,400 but then something completely unexpected happened in the West. 162 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:41,520 A new Roman Emperor, Constantine, made Christianity his own. 163 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,080 Out went the old gods and goddesses of pagan Rome. 164 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,800 In came the one God of the Christians. 165 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,920 It was a turning point in the history of the Christian faith. 166 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,320 It was more than a 100 years after the King of Edessa had made Christianity his official religion. 167 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:07,800 But to be the state religion of a whole Empire was something else altogether. 168 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:16,240 The ability to reinvent itself would become a hallmark of Christianity. 169 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,720 But this was the greatest reinvention of them all. 170 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:26,280 It meant an end to persecution. It brought power and wealth. 171 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,720 It gave the Christian faith the chance of becoming a universal religion. 172 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,960 From this moment, a Church of the Roman Empire emerged. 173 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,200 In theory, it embraced Christians in the Eastern Empire as well as the West. 174 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:59,000 But in the East, many Christians were unimpressed by the new alliance, even hostile. 175 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:05,560 At stake were fundamental disagreements about the direction the faith should take. 176 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:10,080 Jesus had told people to abandon wealth, not to ally with the rich and powerful. 177 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Remember his joke about a rich man wanting to enter the kingdom 178 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,720 of Heaven was like a camel trying to get through the eye of a needle? 179 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,200 Some Christians actually listened to what Jesus had said. 180 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,000 It was Eastern Christians here in Syria who led the way... 181 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,960 ..showing Western Christianity a pattern for spiritual life. 182 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,000 We call this pattern monasticism. 183 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,160 A way of life involving isolation from the world, 184 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,840 austerity, 185 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,720 and suffering. 186 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,920 In the north of Syria there is one of the oddest souvenirs of the new 187 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,280 religious movement in Eastern Christianity. 188 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,240 For almost 40 years a holy man called St Simeon 189 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,320 lived on top of a stone column. 190 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,480 He's now known as a pillar saint or Stylite. 191 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,480 I am actually really excited to be here, because I first saw a picture 192 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,840 of this when I was eight and I never thought I'd come here and now I am. I'm here. 193 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,480 And there it is, the stump of his pillar. 194 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,400 Among all the other pillars you can see. 195 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,680 it's the thing which looks shapeless. 196 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,200 You've gotta imagine this stump 30ft high or whatever it was. 197 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,000 Very strange sight indeed. 198 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,160 It's still pretty strange. 199 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,800 Crowds came to see St Simeon sitting on his pillar. 200 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,920 The church was built around it after his death. 201 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,200 And it's pilgrims who made the pillar look so strange. 202 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,160 In their search for healing souvenirs, they whittled it down 203 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,440 until it looks like a well-sucked holy lollipop. 204 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,080 St Simeon is the most famous of many Syrian hermits 205 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,040 who tried to come closer to God by punishing their bodies. 206 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,640 For them, suffering was the road to salvation and they tried to inspire others to follow. 207 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,440 According to the Syrian enthusiast for St Simeon's Church I met, 208 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,640 this approach set Eastern Christians apart from the West. 209 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,600 St Simeon here, 210 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,200 he was on the crossing of two main roads 211 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,600 between Aleppo and Antioch, between Apamea 212 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:54,280 and Syrius, so that was a crossing where many people used to pass with their caravan or whatever. 213 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,800 That's interesting because the stereotype in Europe of the hermit 214 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,080 is someone who goes away from the world, 215 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,560 yet this man is right in the middle of things. 216 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Yeah, therefore as you said, when you see the man 217 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:11,800 as a Stylite - vertical connection - he is between the land and God. 218 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,920 He is like a lighthouse. Exactly. Here is a man, 219 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:20,720 who's suffered more than most people in his life. What is it that makes him want to suffer? 220 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,640 Christians at the beginning of Christianity here, 221 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,280 they were thinking, "We are passing by in this life. 222 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,640 "We should suffer. This is a valley of the tears. 223 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,400 "Our day will be in the next life where we will see God. 224 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,000 "We will be in Heaven, in paradise. 225 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,000 "We should suffer here to deserve the other one." 226 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,320 A clear divide was growing between East and West. 227 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,720 Even as the Roman Emperor was making Christianity powerful and wealthy, 228 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,640 here on its Eastern borders, many preferred a faith which denied the temptations of the world. 229 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:05,280 Some started to gather in communities where they could follow God in purity and simplicity. 230 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:09,920 They created the very first monasteries. 231 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,720 The new institution of monastic life eventually 232 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,320 reshaped Christianity when the Western Roman Empire fell apart. 233 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,560 Monks turned their holiness into power, 234 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,000 and power is always a problem for the Church. 235 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,400 People want it, and they'll fight to get it. 236 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,200 And their fight gets mixed up with what they believe about God. 237 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Constantine may well have thought that Christianity would reunite his vast empire. 238 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,080 In fact the opposite happened. It deepened existing divisions. 239 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:49,600 Constantine presided over four rival centres of Christian authority. 240 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:57,200 Antioch, in modern day Turkey, was the main focus in the East. 241 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,360 Further south was Alexandria in Egypt. 242 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,720 The Bishop of Rome was the Pope, 243 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,000 honoured in the West as successor to the Apostle Peter. 244 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,760 And trying to mediate between these rival centres 245 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,840 was Constantine's new capital, 246 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,280 Constantinople, present day Istanbul. 247 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:29,800 From the beginning, Christians had argued over passionately held beliefs. 248 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,160 But from here in his new capital, the Emperor watched in horror 249 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,040 as the unity of the faith was tested to its limits. 250 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,320 Matters came to a head over a question at the heart of the Christian faith. 251 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,400 Who exactly was Jesus and what was his relationship to God? 252 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,640 Christians believe that God is all-powerful, the creator of the universe, 253 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,360 and Jesus is the son of God, 254 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:06,240 but he's also a flesh and blood man who died on the cross. 255 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,920 Now a man who died on a cross surely can't be the same as the creator of the universe. 256 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,080 How then are they both the One God? 257 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:23,800 According to a thoughtful but maverick Egyptian priest, Jesus was not the same as God. 258 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,520 The priest's name was Arius. He claimed that it was impossible for God, 259 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,560 who is perfect and indivisible, 260 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,280 to have created the human being Jesus out of himself. 261 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,120 But hang on. If Jesus Christ is not fully God, then is his death 262 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:43,640 on the cross enough to save you from your sins and get you to Heaven? 263 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,280 If you care about the afterlife and they did, that's the biggest question you can ask. 264 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,960 The power of Christian belief lay in its claim to wipe away all 265 00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:00,960 the misery that humans feel about sin and death, our guilt and shame. 266 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,720 Christ died to give us the chance to have an infinitely better life. 267 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,560 Arius' view could be seen to undermine all this. 268 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,720 And so he was condemned. 269 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,240 Yet the fact was many Christians had said the same over the previous 270 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:25,080 three centuries, here on the shores of the Bosphorus as much as anywhere else. 271 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:31,880 But Constantine couldn't allow this divisive idea to split the Church and in the process, his Empire. 272 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,680 He had to put a stop to it. 273 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,960 Just a few hours out of Istanbul is one of the most important sites 274 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,600 in Christianity's turbulent history. 275 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,200 Bishops from across the Empire were summoned to solve the crisis 276 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,520 in an Imperial Palace now thought to be submerged beneath this lake. 277 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,600 Today the town here is called Iznik. 278 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:26,200 Back in the 4th century it was the city of Nicaea, the setting for the famous Council of Nicaea. 279 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,720 There had been church councils before, but this was the first held in the presence of an Emperor. 280 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:37,600 And it was Constantine, who proposed the vital statement which he hoped would send everyone home satisfied. 281 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,200 The phrase was that Jesus was "of one substance" with the Father. 282 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,400 In Greek, that's homoousios. 283 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,640 # I believe in one God... # 284 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,040 After many more arguments over the next half century, 285 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,320 this phrase stayed at the heart 286 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,800 of one of the most important Christian texts of all time. 287 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,400 # ..in one Lord Jesus Christ... # 288 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,680 We call it the Nicene Creed, and it's still recited 289 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,000 in everyday worship throughout the Christian world. 290 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,840 # ..being of one substance with the Father... # 291 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:23,680 It states that God is equally the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit. 292 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,560 They are three in one, 293 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,200 the Trinity. 294 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,520 # Amen. # 295 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,960 The Emperor must have breathed a sigh of relief. 296 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Emperors longed for unity. 297 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,920 Inconveniently for them, Christians repeatedly valued truth rather more. 298 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,520 A hundred years later, in 428, a clever but tactless scholar 299 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,120 was appointed the new Bishop of Constantinople, 300 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,680 Nestorius. 301 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,120 Bishop Nestorius wasted little time in plunging the Church 302 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:21,920 into a fresh quarrel about the nature of Jesus. 303 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,240 It would end the unity of the Church once and for all and in the process 304 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,360 consolidate eastern Christianity as a distinct and formidable force. 305 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,880 Now I'll try to get to the heart of what might seem a very technical argument. 306 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,440 After Nicaea, we know that Jesus Christ is of one substance with the Father, so he's divine. 307 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,120 But he's also a man. So he's human. 308 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:52,880 He has two natures but he's one person. 309 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,560 How does that actually work? 310 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,120 Nestorius understood the two natures in Christ 311 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,360 as being something like oil and water contained in a glass. 312 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:08,280 Although they are in the same container, they remain quite separate. 313 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,440 So in Christ there are two separate natures - human and divine. 314 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,080 It seemed a neat and satisfying formula, 315 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,040 especially for Christians seeking salvation. 316 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,640 If Jesus was fully human, people could identify with him 317 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,880 and if he was fully divine, he could grant the gift of eternal life. 318 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,520 But many thought it too neat. 319 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,720 The Bishop of Alexandria in Egypt, called Cyril, was appalled. 320 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,800 Separating out the two natures of Jesus tore Christ in two. 321 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,960 Imagine a glass containing water and wine. They mix indivisibly. 322 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,360 So, Cyril argued, it is with Christ. 323 00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:00,080 His human and divine natures come together as one. 324 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,240 Cyril's followers squared up to Nestorius. 325 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,400 This really was a fight to the death because understanding exactly how Jesus was God 326 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,320 explained how he was powerful enough to save you from Hell. 327 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,880 At first Cyril seemed to have the upper hand. 328 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,440 He had Nestorius hounded out of Constantinople 329 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,920 and banished to a remote Egyptian prison. 330 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,200 But Nestorius' supporters remained. 331 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,360 And so once again a Roman Emperor was left fearing that his state would fracture. 332 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,920 He had to call yet more councils. 333 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:55,280 Eventually in 451 the bishops of the Empire gathered just across the straits from Constantinople 334 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,440 for another landmark council in Church history. 335 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:06,600 The Council of Chalcedon met to define the future of Christian faith. 336 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,320 The Council met just over there. 337 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,720 It tried to do what all Emperors want, to sign up everyone to a middle of the road settlement. 338 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,200 When you do that, it always helps to have a few troops around. 339 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,520 So the Council decreed a compromise. 340 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,600 In essence it backed Nestorius' oil and water emphasis - 341 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,920 that whilst here on earth Christ the divine and human being was 342 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,560 "recognised in two natures, without confusion, without change". 343 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:49,560 But in a nod to Cyril's followers, it straightaway added "without division, without separation". 344 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,800 And that compromise is how the Churches which descend from the Emperor's Christianity, 345 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,080 the Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox, 346 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,000 have understood the mystery of Jesus ever since. 347 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,720 But frankly it was a fairly shabby deal that left plenty of people unhappy. 348 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Cyril's supporters were naturally angry, 349 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:21,360 but the followers of Nestorius felt marginalised and insulted too. 350 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Nestorius had died a heretic in exile. 351 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:32,960 And even though Chalcedon used some of his theological language, it did nothing to restore his reputation. 352 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,360 The losers of the council of Chalcedon refused to fall into line. 353 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,880 It was a watershed. Imperial and non-imperial Christianity would never be reconciled. 354 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,960 Instead something new happened. 355 00:30:53,960 --> 00:31:00,160 The church split for the first time, something that would happen many more times in its history. 356 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:07,000 The imperial Church now found itself focused solely on the Mediterranean. 357 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,960 It had no choice. 358 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,480 Eastern Christians were not going to be pushed around by the Emperor. 359 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,880 But unlike their Western cousins, Christians in the East would now have to survive 360 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,960 in the midst of hostile and alien religions, without the backing of an Emperor. 361 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,800 You might think it would be the end of them. 362 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,760 But in any religion, apparent misfortune can be a spur, 363 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,440 even stimulate expansion. 364 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:47,120 For Eastern Christians this was the start of a great adventure, 365 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:54,400 to take what they believed was the true and First Christianity to the far ends of Asia. 366 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,640 In the 6th century, on the eastern fringes of the Roman Empire, 367 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,840 Syria was emerging as an alternative Christian centre of gravity to the West. 368 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,280 HE CHANTS 369 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,080 THEY ANSWER 370 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,960 Priests sympathetic to Cyril of Alexandria's mixed water and wine view 371 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,000 of Christ, were secretly consecratedas Bishops. 372 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,720 A new Eastern Church was born. 373 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,560 It's now called the Syriac Orthodox Church. 374 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:54,640 Today its priests are trained at its headquarters just outside Damascus. 375 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,800 The seminary offers a glimpse of what Imperial Western Christianity 376 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,640 might have looked like if Chalcedon had chosen in favour of Cyril. 377 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,080 Instead of the rational, tidy Christianity of the West, 378 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,920 this is a faith which glories in mystery. 379 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,400 It pays meticulous attention to ritual... 380 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,360 ..in particular to the quality of the performance. 381 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,400 MEN SING IN UNISON 382 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,440 One of the tutors at the seminary, Father Fady, 383 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:45,160 suggested to me Eastern Christianity is more in touch with its origins than the West. 384 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,800 What do you think is lacking in the Western Church tradition? 385 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,880 Well, you find the liturgy in the East to be so much richer in symbolism. 386 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,800 The way people communicate is not only through words, but through 387 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,080 gestures, through the way, you know, the person is expressing himself 388 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,880 through his body, or voice, tune or whatever. 389 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,360 Now this is very different from how Western spirituality has developed, 390 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,440 which was always through philosophy, so you always have theologians who 391 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,800 are philosophers, but in the East, you always have theologians 392 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,120 who are either poets, or maybe icon drawers or whatever. 393 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:37,600 All Christian worship is drama, full of sign and symbol. 394 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,120 But what Father Fady is claiming is that Eastern Christianity has made 395 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,680 a priority of passing down gestures, 396 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,240 which take you right back to the beginnings of the Church. 397 00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:00,880 When the priest lifts the communion bread for example, it symbolizes Jesus rising from the dead. 398 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,680 You could say that the most important assertion 399 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,880 of the Syriac Orthodox Church is its claim to authenticity. 400 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,520 Key sections of this service are in the ancient language called Syriac. 401 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,720 It's a dialect of Aramaic, 402 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,320 the actual language which Jesus spoke. 403 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,000 What makes me so enthusiastic about my Church is that 404 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,160 the Church speaks the language of Christ, 405 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,800 so if you want to read the history of the Church or the spirituality 406 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,080 of the Church, you really need Syriac in order to access all the manuscripts 407 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,920 and you know the writings of the early Church. 408 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,160 Here, on the fringes of the Roman Empire, 409 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,160 was a Christianity now fully in charge of its own destiny. 410 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,840 These Syrian Christians honoured the memory of Cyril 411 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,640 and other Christians felt the same way. 412 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,360 Go to the ancient Church of Egypt, the Copts, or the ancient Church of Ethiopia, 413 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,160 and you'll find that they've not yet forgiven the Roman Emperor for the Council of Chalcedon. 414 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,240 But just as confidence was growing among Eastern Christians, 415 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:49,480 in the 7th century the whole of Christianity, 416 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,920 East and West, found itself in danger. 417 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,680 It had to face up to a rival, 418 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,960 a new militant faith... 419 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,480 Islam. 420 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,960 Followers of the prophet Muhammad began their push out 421 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,080 from the Arabian peninsula in 632, 422 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,240 conquering much of the known world with astonishing speed. 423 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:23,480 Islam brought huge damage to Imperial Christianity. 424 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,920 As it travelled west, it wiped out much of the southern provinces of the old Roman Empire, 425 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,840 It reached across north Africa, 426 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,920 into Spain, and into Sicily and Italy. 427 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,200 It even threatened mighty Constantinople. 428 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,760 That fight between Imperial Christianity and Islam 429 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,360 for the soul of Europe lasted centuries. 430 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,440 But the conflict also had an Eastern front. 431 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:10,680 This is one of the world's oldest mosques, the Great Umayyad Mosque. 432 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,240 It was built at the heart of a new Muslim Empire 433 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:20,120 ruled by the Umayyad Dynasty from here in Damascus. 434 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,640 Crude modern versions of history see the coming of Islam 435 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:30,520 as a "clash of civilisations", in which Islam quickly wiped out Eastern Christianity. 436 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,400 But the truth is rather different. 437 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,280 Here there was more of an encounter of civilisations. 438 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,880 Much like the destruction of Jerusalem in the 1st century, 439 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,360 the arrival of Islam was indeed a crisis point for Christians. 440 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:52,000 But Christianity proved it could meet this new challenge to its survival. 441 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,040 The Umayyads didn't have the resources or the inclination to force conversion on Christians. 442 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,480 In fact, they did deals with local leaders. 443 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,440 Christians did become second-class citizens and later rulers 444 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,760 even forced Christians to wear distinctive yellow clothing. 445 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,600 Much later, European Christians would do that to Jews. 446 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,880 Despite all that there is evidence that Christianity did influence Islam. 447 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,400 Christianity played a part in shaping Muslim worship. 448 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,600 It even affected its doctrine. 449 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,240 The Umayyad Mosque stands on the site of a Christian Church 450 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,600 and still contains a shrine said to be the tomb of John the Baptist, 451 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,680 this Christian saint is honoured as a prophet in Islam. 452 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:52,320 But perhaps most remarkable is the likelihood that the act of prostration during Muslim prayer 453 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,680 was originally inspired by Eastern Christian tradition. 454 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:03,760 I discussed all this with Islamic scholar and Syrian politician Mouhammad Habash. 455 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,720 According to our faith in Islam. 456 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:09,600 we believe all prophets, 457 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:14,760 as prophet of God and as messengers of God, but Jesus Christ has more. 458 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,240 In our faith, we believe him as a spirit of God 459 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:23,920 and we believe he is coming back exactly in this white minaret. 460 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,440 Oh, this white minaret. This white minaret - 461 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,800 it's named Jesus Minaret, because Prophet Mohammad he said. 462 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,360 "By God Jesus Christ is coming back to you 463 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,200 "exactly in white minaret in Damascus." 464 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,560 And here we are in this great courtyard and it's really quite natural to take our shoes off 465 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,720 but I have also seen the same thing in the sanctuary of a Christian church during the Holy Eucharist, 466 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,400 so do you think it's possible that such customs 467 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,960 are actually borrowed by Islam in its first days from Christianity? 468 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,720 My colleagues in parliament, he mentioned this one to leave off your 469 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:04,480 shoes and how to pray. He said in all the churches, 470 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:11,040 in all Christian sects, you can find the same praying as Islam, five times every day, 471 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:17,920 and you can find people who pray on the land, not on church. Believe me there is 472 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,720 more in common than you think between Islam and Christianity. 473 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,720 As Christians here learned how to live side-by-side with Islam, 474 00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:38,720 one group of Eastern Christians was about to get an unexpected new lease of life. 475 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,880 Remember Nestorius, the Bishop who won the day at Chalcedon, but still came off the loser? 476 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,520 Well, adapting to the challenge of Islam 477 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:58,640 provided just the spur his followers needed to embark on their own great Christian venture in the East. 478 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,080 Nestorius died in exile in Egypt, but his supporters 479 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,480 helped build a church independent of both Imperial Christianity 480 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,480 and the Syriac Orthodox Church. 481 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,600 They based their headquarters further east, in modern Iraq. 482 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,200 They called themselves, 483 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,640 appropriately, the Church of the East. 484 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,520 THEY CHANT 485 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,720 This is one of the Church's Iraqi congregations. 486 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,240 It's had a presence in what is now Iraq for over 15,000 years. 487 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:58,960 Only recent wars have forced this congregation to worship in exile across the Syrian border. 488 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,720 It's naturally proud of its ancient lineage. 489 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:09,760 But in fact it has a much bigger significance in the history of Christianity. 490 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,040 That's because these Eastern Christians persuaded their Muslim rulers that they 491 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,280 had unique skills to offer. 492 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,880 Skills gained during the time they spent 493 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,600 arguing about the nature of Christ. 494 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:35,800 They turned Greek theology, literature and philosophy into their native Syriac to argue the case. 495 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,240 They became the think tank of the middle east. 496 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,600 So when the new Muslim Empire wanted to translate Greek science and philosophy into Arabic 497 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,640 it was to the ancestors of these Christians that it naturally turned. 498 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,120 We in the West owe the Church of the East a huge debt. 499 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,880 Much of what we know about Greek learning, 500 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,480 from medicine to astronomy and even the system of Arabic numerals in use today, 501 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,440 all come to us courtesy of those Christian translators. 502 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:31,840 The value of the scholars to their Muslim rulers ensured that the Church thrived. 503 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:42,080 Within 200 years of the rise of Islam, Patriarch Timothy I of the Church of the East 504 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,320 presided from the Abbasid capital of Baghdad 505 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:50,480 over an area that extended from Jerusalem to Central Asia 506 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,480 even to India, which was home to a thriving Church. 507 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,480 Its descendants are still there. 508 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,960 Everywhere in this vast area, Timothy was known by the ancient 509 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:08,080 Syriac title of respect for a religious leader, "Mar". 510 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:13,640 Maybe a quarter of all Christians saw Mar Timothy as their spiritual leader - 511 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,840 probably as many as the Bishop who was Pope in Rome. 512 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:28,800 So here in Syria and Central Asia, Christianity had passed a crucial test. 513 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,120 In contrast to the West, it was unable to rely on military strength 514 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,960 and so had learned to make the most of persuasion, 515 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,640 negotiation. 516 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,840 But Christianity is at heart a missionary faith, 517 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,480 and in the Abbasid Empire, conversion from Islam was forbidden. 518 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,160 So the Eastern Church had to find other ways to expand. 519 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:59,240 The solution was as radical as the later expansion of Western Christianity in the Americas. 520 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:03,800 The Church of the Middle East decided to spread to the Far East. 521 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,120 Christianity is now so identified with the West that we've forgotten 522 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:41,800 that long ago the belief that God became man in Jesus found fertile ground in the Far East. 523 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:48,240 But that's exactly what happened in 7th century China. 524 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,440 And we're beginning to understand how Christianity may have managed to survive in such an alien culture. 525 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:11,560 I met Martin Palmer, a writer on early Chinese Christianity who believes he's found the smoking gun. 526 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:18,120 The missing evidence from the Christian presence in China in the 7th century. 527 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:24,160 That's around the same time as Christianity was beginning to convert Anglo-Saxons in England. 528 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,360 Martin came across a map of modern day Shaanxi Province, 529 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:39,760 where there was thought to be a long lost 7th century Christian monastery called Da Qin. 530 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:45,600 To find it he needed to pinpoint an identifiable traditional Chinese landmark. 531 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,920 This map was a very faded pencil map, so I got out 532 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,040 a huge magnifying glass, put a whopping great light on it, 533 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,320 looked at this, read the characters and then suddenly realising I knew exactly where it was... Wow. 534 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:03,360 ..because the next temple up on this map was Lao Guan Dai 535 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,720 and that's the temple over there. 536 00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:10,080 OK. Right on that hill, that wooded hill over there. 537 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,440 Lao Guan Dai was the most important Daoist Temple in Tang Dynasty China. 538 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,680 GONG RESONATES 539 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,800 And now on a hillside, just across from that Temple, 540 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,120 Martin was looking for evidence of a Christian monastery. 541 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,800 The monastery seemed to have a tall typically Chinese feature, 542 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,800 a pagoda. 543 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,360 And that's exactly what Martin found, only a mile away. 544 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,560 It was in a terrible state then. 545 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,440 Now the Chinese have given it a good deal of TLC, 546 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,280 because it is such an extraordinary survival. 547 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:04,520 We arrived to find a 115-year-old nun and I know this is beginning 548 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,200 to sound like Indiana Jones, but she made tea for us 549 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,440 and I was desperately looking to see if I could find something with a cross on it, 550 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,120 so I went up the hill just to look down on it 551 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,680 and that's when I realised this was a Christian site. 552 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,360 How? 553 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,200 All Daoist, Buddhist and Confucianist temples face south, 554 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,080 that's the geomantic, the feng shui direction of Chinese temples. Yep. 555 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,640 All historical Christian churches face east as you know... Yep, east, west, yep. 556 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:37,480 ..better than anybody else. This terrace cut into the side of the hill runs east, west. 557 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:43,440 So I ran down the hill going, "Yes, yes, I know it's true, I know it's true!" 558 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,880 And the Buddhist nun kind of drew herself up to her full height of five feet and stared me 559 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,720 in the knee caps and went, "What's going on?" So I said, 560 00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:53,880 "Well, we think that this might once upon a time have been 561 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,040 "a very ancient Christian church", and she drew herself up even more and she went, 562 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,640 "Well, of course, it was the most famous Christian church in China. Didn't you know that?" 563 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,160 THEY LAUGH 564 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,520 There are moments, Diarmaid, when you just sort of think, "Thank you, God!" 565 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,000 The Christian monastery seems to have adopted typical Chinese architecture. 566 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,440 Inside the building there are sculptures, which Martin believes 567 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:28,120 survive from the Pagoda's Christian days. But when we tried to take a look, we hit a problem. 568 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,000 SHE SHOUTS 569 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,280 HE SHOUTS 570 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,680 Today the ground floor of the pagoda is a Buddhist Temple. 571 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,080 And some locals have had enough of world interest in the building 572 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,320 as an historical Christian site. 573 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,840 In spite of lengthy negotiations, I was not going to get inside. 574 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,400 I've a certain sympathy for the angry villagers. 575 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,880 When my sort of Western Christian culture bludgeoned its way by force into China 576 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,520 in the 19th century, it humiliated the Chinese. 577 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,800 They've not forgotten that. 578 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,680 But when long before, the Church of the East 579 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,800 arrived on the scene, it was very different. 580 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,240 And Martin was keen to show me more about the differences. 581 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:35,240 An hour's drive away is the capital of the Tang Dynasty, Chang'an, modern day Xi'an. 582 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:42,440 It is home to a remarkable museum of ancient stone-carved records known as stelae. 583 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,000 The so-called Forest of Stelae is really an ancient library 584 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,280 of classic Confucian writings, Chinese poetry and history. 585 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,960 And there are other stelae gathered from around this imperial capital. 586 00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:07,320 One of these great stones is quite breathtaking when you realise what it is, 587 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,840 nothing less than an ancient commemoration 588 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,280 of the Church of the East in China dating back to 781. 589 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,080 And this is it. This is the Da Qin Stone. There's the words "Da Qin". 590 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:26,200 Now Da Qin means a big empire in the West. 591 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,440 The Chinese knew that there was a whopping great Empire, somewhere to the West. 592 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,720 Now, whether they were referring to Rome or the Byzantine Empire 593 00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:37,200 or the Syrian Empire, we're not sure, but what they're saying is, 594 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,200 "This is the Western Empire's religion of brightness". 595 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,000 There's the word for religion, there's brightness, 596 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,960 and that was the name that the Chinese Christians gave 597 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,680 to their own religion, the religion of light. 598 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,800 But can I show you one other thing which will link you back to Syria where you've just been... Right. 599 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,600 ..with China, because round here, on the walls here, 600 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,040 can you see how we've got some Syriac texts... 601 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,840 Oh, yes. 602 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,960 ..and then underneath the Chinese names. Yeah. 603 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,560 And each one of the Chinese names starts with the same character 604 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,920 and that's the character for Mar meaning... 605 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,080 Oh, Priest! Exactly. Yes, yes. 606 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,200 Now what strikes me standing by all these 607 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,160 great stones is that this Christian one is just like all the others. 608 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,720 Exactly, exactly. So here we are in the year 781 609 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:33,360 in the greatest empire in the greatest period 610 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,920 of Chinese Civilisation that there has ever been 611 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,920 and we have Christianity coming, proud of its roots, 612 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,400 but also able to mix and move amongst the Chinese 613 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,920 with great ease. 614 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,680 Indeed, wherever they went, Eastern Christians seemed to find sympathy 615 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,520 in societies very different from theirs. 616 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,760 So the mystery is what happened to the Church of the East? 617 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:14,400 We know that in the 9th Century a new Chinese Emperor turned against all foreign religion. 618 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,760 The Church seemed to disappear. 619 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,280 This was the examination hall, but it also had a religious function. 620 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:26,920 But Martin has an intriguing theory that rather than vanish, the Church may have gone underground. 621 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,880 We have a record. Marco Polo, who comes in the late 13th century 622 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,400 loathed the Church of the East. He was a good Catholic, hated them. 623 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,920 He says that 700,000 hidden Christians re-emerged. 624 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,720 Now he probably underestimates, because he didn't like them. 625 00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:48,480 Yes, he's talking about a huge number. Huge number. 626 00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:53,320 So if Chinese people were prepared to put that much effort into Christianity, 627 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,080 what is it that has made Christianity Chinese? 628 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:01,600 Well, I think whereas the Church in the West, once it had conquered the Roman Empire, doesn't meet another 629 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:07,760 literate culture, other than Islam with which it has a few problems, until the 15th century, 630 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:14,360 the Church of the East is engaging with the greatest intellectual centres the world has. 631 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,480 And therefore the kind of Christianity they developed was a Christianity of dialogue, 632 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,480 not of conquest. They never... Never was the Church of the East imperial. 633 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,320 It was a Church of merchants, not of the military, 634 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,440 and that is a huge difference, because merchants like to arrive at a compromise. 635 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:53,400 Eastern Christianity's ability to adapt and spread without an army to back it 636 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,400 may have helped it survive in China at least until the 9th century. 637 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:05,920 By then Western Christianity had only just begun to make inroads into central and northern Europe. 638 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,880 That's a point that's often been missed. 639 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,440 You might say the Church of the East failed in China. 640 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,160 It never gained permanent favour from Emperors. 641 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,120 It worshipped in a foreign language, Syriac. It seemed to fade away. 642 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,000 But if Martin's right, it didn't completely. 643 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,560 And maybe the Christianity we know needs to regain its ancient ability to listen. 644 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,320 Today, Christianity is seen as a Western faith. 645 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:49,160 Indeed, many in the Muslim world would see "Western" lifestyles as "Christian" lifestyles. 646 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,920 But Christianity is not by origin a "Western" religion. 647 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,600 Its beginnings are in the Middle East, where there still exist 648 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:02,760 Churches which have been Eastern since the earliest Christian era. 649 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,280 The story of the first Christianity tells us that the Christian faith 650 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:14,480 is in fact hugely diverse with many identities. 651 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,840 And it shows us that far from being a "clash of civilisations", 652 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:26,160 in the East, the encounter between Islam and Christianity enriched both faiths. 653 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:33,000 And yet, for all of Christianity's ability to re-invent itself, 654 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,600 it was ultimately eclipsed across most of Asia. 655 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:43,400 It suffered too many misfortunes - massacre, plague, persecution. 656 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,400 Islam suffered them too, 657 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,240 but Islam had enough powerful friends to survive. 658 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,400 In the next episode of my history of Christianity, I will follow 659 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,440 the western road out of Jerusalem, to Rome and beyond. 660 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:15,680 And there we will see what happens to Christianity when it has powerful friends. 661 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,800 Why not take part in the Open University's online survey - 662 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,080 "What does it mean to be a Christian today?" 663 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,840 At... 664 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,280 ..and follow the links. 665 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,600 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 666 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,720 E-mail subtitling@bbc.co.uk 61307

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