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Well it's very exciting
to be back in Rome again.
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At every turn
there's something
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of historical
significance.
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Look at that.
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It's literally like you're
living inside a museum.
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Even if you've never
been to Rome,
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you've been to Rome.
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Its stories have been told and
retold on stage and screen,
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the city of toga's
and gladiators,
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power and intrigue,
empire and ruin,
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and of course La Dolce Vita -
the good life.
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I'm Stanley Tucci.
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I'm Italian on both sides
and I'm travelling across Italy
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to discover how the food
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in each of this
country's 20 regions
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is as unique as the people
and their past...
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The famous ancients of Rome
once ruled the world...
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...but I'm here to discover
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how it's the food
of ordinary Romans
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that has conquered our hearts.
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But I'm going to warn you,
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if you're on a low
carb diet beware...
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...you're going to see a lot
of pasta in this show.
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I mean, like, a lot of it.
Like, a lot.
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I'm sorry.
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I've been visiting Rome
for decades.
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Its beauty and history
still leave me breathless
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but sometimes it's difficult
to find a good meal
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if you don't know
where to look.
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Rome is situated in Lazio,
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a region sometimes overlooked
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in favour of its grander
gastronomic neighbors
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like Tuscany
and Umbria.
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But Lazio has fed Rome
for centuries
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and every part of
the sheep and pigs raised here
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is put to use
in kitchens across the city
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to make deeply
flavorsome food.
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To start my journey,
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I'm catching up
with my old friend Claudia.
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She's lived here
virtually her whole life...
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-There you are.
-...and her cardinal rule
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for good food is, 'when in
Rome, eat as the Romans do.'
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-Are you OK? Good.
-I'm good. You OK?
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-I'm so happy to see you.
-It was a long time.
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It was a long time.
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Somehow almost 30
years has slipped by
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since we first became friends
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when we worked on a movie
here together.
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I think that you came
first time for a...
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Well, the very first time
was like '95.
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No, I think '93, because it
was the Undercover Blues.
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-I didn't know I was that old.
-I know, me neither.
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Let's not mention it.
[LAUGHTER]
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Claudia wants to take me
for a classic Roman pasta lunch
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but with an hour to kill,
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we decide to get
a coffee and reminisce.
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Well the San Calisto
is a real institution.
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That's where we went
a long time ago.
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Yeah, yeah, we were there
every evening, you know.
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Back in the '90s
we used to hang out
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in a great café in Trastavere,
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a grimy part of town, very much
on the wrong side of the river.
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-Here we are.
-Yeah, and here we are.
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And I was pleased to hear
it was still going strong.
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-So you remember Marcello?
-Yes I do, I do.
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Look what's there. The picture
you gave them in '93.
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It's exactly in the same place.
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I think nothing changed
in this place.
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No it hasn't changed.
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A little espresso
would be just enough
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to whet our appetites
before we go to lunch...
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...or so I thought.
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-I know, I know.
-What's that?
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-That's...
-Who's joining us?
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These are maritozzi,
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Roman breakfast with
a 2,000-year-old history.
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You cannot resist one of these.
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In the Middle Ages they were
one of the few sweet things
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the church allowed you
to eat during Lent...
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...it doesn't seem
very saintly to me.
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-[TUCCI] Is it like a brioche?
-Yeah, it's like a brioche.
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-'Cause it looks like a brioche.
-And it's even healthier
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compared to this.
This is bomba con la crema.
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It's fried. It's a sort of donut
with egg cream.
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But Italians don't eat breakfast
like Americans eat breakfast
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or the British eat breakfast
or the Dutch eat breakfast.
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[TUCCI] Yeah, 'cause they don't
do eggs and bacon and...
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-It's always something sweet.
-Yeah.
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Nice to see you again.
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As we staggered off
our breakfast
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and headed through Trastevere,
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I noticed that the area was
much busier and hipper
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than years ago.
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This was the poor quarters,
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you see the buildings,
as nice as they are,
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-are very small.
-Right.
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And then of course,
as it happens
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you know, the old quarters
got very trendy and everybody
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-wanted to live here.
-Yeah and they become
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-more gentrified and... Yeah.
-Yeah.
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The city may be changing,
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but one thing
that's as constant
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as the ancient landmarks
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is how much people in Rome
love their pasta.
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Four star dishes in particular
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have become an emblem
of the city
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and Claudia is taking me
to find out more
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at a place she says
is the Pantheon of pasta...
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[TUCCI] The restaurant
is fully booked...
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-But we don't care. [LAUGHS]
-Yeah, we don't care.
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Well tell me some more
about pasta in Rome.
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Pasta in Rome is like,
you eat it every day.
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I mean you don't live
without pasta.
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Every day?
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And everybody has its own recipe
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and of course it's the best
ever, you know,
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and yours is nothing
compared to mine.
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Right, it's true. It does
become very territorial
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-doesn't it?
-Yeah.
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Romans revere what they call
The Four Pastas.
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[TUCCI] Nice to see you,
thank you for having me.
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Simple but iconic dishes
of staggering deliciousness.
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They are creamy Cacio e Pepe,
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made with mainly sheep's
cheese and pepper.
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The ancient Gricia,
which has added pork.
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Its luxurious cousin Carbonara,
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which is elevated
with egg yolks.
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And finally, our lunch
today, Amatriciana,
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made with tomatoes...
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...and this Roman favourite,
Guanciale, fatty pork cheek.
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[TUCCI] The Guanciale
are a base
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for a lot of different
dishes in Rome.
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We would normally
use pancetta
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but the taste
is totally different.
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-Terrible. Terrible.
-No.
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-No, no, terrible.
-Yes.
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[TUCCI] Thank you.
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[TUCCI] Thank you so much.
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-It's very good.
-[TUCCI] [SPEAKS ITALIAN]
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Pasta's delicious. Delicious.
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The sauce is actually quite
light, which is nice,
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and the guanciale
are really delicate.
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Yeah, yeah it is.
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No, no. I kept some space
in my stomach for this.
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Ah. Because we didn't
eat the...
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-My god.
-No.
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Across this city,
every single day,
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Romans eat pasta
that has ancient bonds
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to their surrounding
countryside.
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Now it's hard to imagine,
but this iconic food
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was once at risk
of being banned in Italy...
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Sitting at the big, warm,
carbohydrate-loaded heart
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of Italian cuisine is pasta.
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And fittingly
for the nation's capital,
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Rome is obsessed
with the stuff.
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I've been promised
the best carbonara in the city
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and I've been told to come
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to the working-class
backstreets
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behind Termini Station
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and to ask for the Don.
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[TUCCI] Tell me what you do.
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I'm passionate about
popular food
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and for a long time
I made a show
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where I play vinyl music disc
and that's...
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-Like a DJ? As a DJ.
-As a DJ, yeah.
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But at the same time...
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Daniele di Michele is a chef,
historian and DJ
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who cooks Italian food
while he spins records.
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His stage name is Don Pasta.
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Oh I have seen some
of the stuff...
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-Yeah, yeah. It's crazy.
-Oh it's really fantastic.
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I was pretending for the
audience that I didn't know,
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-but why lie?
-It's a joke.
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It's really great.
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Don Pasta has promised me
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the greatest dish of Spaghetti
Carbonara I've ever tasted,
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and on the way he tells me
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why pasta matters
so much to him.
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I realised that Italian food
is popular food,
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roots food.
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Italian food is the resistance
of the normal people
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or the working-class people
that eat well
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because the working-class people
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create the roots
of Italian food.
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Yes.
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Today we may think
of a bowl of pasta
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as the ultimate comfort food
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but there's a distinctly
uncomfortable history
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of Italians fighting oppression
through pasta.
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In the early 1930s,
Mussolini and his fascists
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imposed import bans
on various foreign goods.
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This lead to food shortages,
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malnutrition and
a lack of wheat
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which raised the prospect of
Italian tables with no pasta.
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[SPEAKS ITALIAN]
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In typical style, rather than
lifting the import bans,
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Mussolini tried to convince
Italians that eating pasta
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would make them weak, lazy
and even sexually impotent
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and that a high protein diet
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would make them more productive
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and war-like.
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The campaign was clearly
not a success.
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When the fascism arrived
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a big part of Italy
is with Mussolini...
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-Yeah.
-...but 30-40%
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is against Mussolini.
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In fact pasta actually became
a powerful symbol
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of the resistance
against his fascist regime.
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Armed with their guns
and sheets of pasta
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many of the Partisans
who stood up to Mussolini
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lived in these very streets.
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[ARCHIVE] And the great
access railyards
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from which troops and supplies
are poured into Southern Italy
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are blasted...
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[TUCCI] During World War Two,
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this area bore the brunt
of Allied bombings
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that aimed to disrupt
the nearby rail hub.
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Tragically, over a thousand
people were killed.
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This is in essence
like a monument.
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Yeah, you can see
the effect of the war.
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Yeah.
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People died, the families died,
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and all this area is bombed.
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This particular square
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was home to a hugely popular
local trattoria
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before the war.
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The owner's wife and all
but one of their children died
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when their building was
hit during the bombing.
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After the war, the local
community raised funds
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for the surviving
father and son
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to reopen the restaurant again.
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The boy started work here
aged just eight
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and amazingly
he's still here today.
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The story of Roman food,
Aldo Pomudollo.
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[TUCCI] Aldo...
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Beautiful.
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Aldo now runs the restaurant
alongside his daughter Rossana.
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People come from
across the city,
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and apparently further afield,
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to enjoy the comfort
of Aldo's family food.
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So tell me about carbonara.
Carbonara is a Roman dish
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but we don't know
when it was invented, right?
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One story I'd always heard
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is that carbonara came about
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when the American soldiers
in Rome during the war
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started missing their
bacon and eggs from back home
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and wanted them added
to spaghetti.
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Aldo, however,
has his own theory.
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It seems some things are
destined to remain Roman myths.
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What everyone can agree on
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is that the carbonara here
is incredible.
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You have basically
four ingredients -
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pasta, eggs, the guanciale,
and cheese. That's it.
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But when I try it at home
it's never this good.
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My mother does that too.
256
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You could just die now.
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When I taste pasta like this,
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I understand why it remains
so important to this city.
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Rome may be the seat
of power and religion
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but it's overwhelmingly
a working class town.
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This is simple food that has
been elevated over centuries
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by people making the best
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of what little they
had available.
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They are rightly proud
that their humble food
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has come to define Italy
to the entire world.
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I've headed five miles
out of the city centre
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using the newly
extended Metro line.
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Romans have a reputation
for resisting change
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and the arrival
of the subway in 2014
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has shaken up old poor
neighborhoods of the city,
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nowhere more so
than Centocelle.
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I'm meeting Massimiliano
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who's the editor of Italy's
most prestigious food journal
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to find out what's going on.
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Gentrification is moving
in on this neighborhood
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and food is on the front line.
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[MASSIMILIANO] The
neighbourhood was born
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during the Roman Empire.
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Centocelle is a Roman name,
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cento carceri
is '100 jails' in English.
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-100 jails?
-Jails, yeah, exactly.
282
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There may never have actually
been one hundred jails here,
283
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but what this area does have
is three new subway stations
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all within close proximity.
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[MASSIMILIANO] These things
change up the game, OK?
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A lot of people came here
to try to invest a bit.
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-Is this where we're going?
-Yeah, it's here.
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Let's go in and see
what he's got.
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Centocelle has long had
a rough reputation.
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That's changing fast though
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and one place that's seen
by some as ground zero
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for the transformation
of the neighbourhood is a deli.
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Vincenzo opened this place
well before the Metro arrived.
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He wanted to rehabilitate
the surrounding Lazio region's
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mediocre reputation for food
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and bring the best
of the countryside
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back for his neighbors
to enjoy at fair prices.
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-Can I taste some?
-Ah, si! [LAUGHS]
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Pecorino cheese
is made from sheep's milk
300
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and Rome is famous for it.
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Historically the animals were
raised all around Lazio
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as a cheaper alternative
to cattle and crops.
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Vincenzo goes a step further
than most sellers
304
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and searches in some
unlikely places
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for cheese that also
helps his community.
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-What does that mean?
-[MASSIMILIANO] In a jail.
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-In a jail. Jail. Jail.
-In a jail.
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Oh OK.
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Only in Italy would an ancient
cheese recipe
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be saved by prisoners.
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Right, yeah.
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Yeah, that's delicious. Mmm.
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As well as sheep's milk cheese,
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pork finds its way into almost
every dish I've had in Rome.
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Historically, pigs were raised
all around the city
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because they need less space
than other animals.
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To me, Vincenzo is doing
something amazing.
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Now people come here from
around the city
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to this once
overlooked suburb.
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But over the past few years,
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another 50 to 60 food places
have opened up nearby.
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Romans are renowned for their
stubborn resistance to change.
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I guess it's what's kept this
city standing for centuries.
324
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But Massimiliano wants to show
me another café in the area,
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one of many that have opened
in recent years.
326
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I wasn't fully prepared
for what we found.
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Oh my lord
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It's hard to imagine,
but a few months ago
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this place was a thriving
café and bookshop
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called La Peccora Elettrica
- The Electric Sheep.
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On the night of
April 25th, 2019,
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Alessandra's café
was firebombed.
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She set about rebuilding
her business
334
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but shockingly, the night
before she was due to reopen,
335
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the attackers struck again.
336
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Three local businesses
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have now been attacked
like this here in Centocelle,
338
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including a pizza place
and this jazz bar.
339
00:22:59,334 --> 00:23:02,293
The police still haven't found
who's responsible.
340
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Because Alessandra hosted
community events at the café,
341
00:23:05,819 --> 00:23:08,125
including anti-fascist talks,
342
00:23:08,169 --> 00:23:10,693
suspicion has fallen
on the far right.
343
00:23:10,737 --> 00:23:12,565
But others here blame
local criminals
344
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protecting their old turf
345
00:23:14,523 --> 00:23:18,788
or even anti-gentrification
campaigners.
346
00:23:18,832 --> 00:23:22,444
But is this happening
in other parts of Rome too?
347
00:23:36,327 --> 00:23:39,287
When change happens,
Romans resist,
348
00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:43,334
but whoever did this has made
it dangerous to sell food.
349
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It seems brutal to attack
350
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restaurants and cafes
in this city
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that is united in its love
of eating together.
352
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Tucked in a curve
of the River Tiber
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is Testaccio, once known
as the belly of Rome,
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home to the old slaughterhouses
355
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that supplied 19th and 20th
Century Romans with meat.
356
00:24:13,539 --> 00:24:15,192
So tell me about this place.
357
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This is the Ex Mattatoio,
the retired slaughterhouse...
358
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...and for about a hundred
years, until the 1970s,
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it's where most large
Roman animals were slaughtered
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basically from lambs
all the way up through steer.
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This four square mile site
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will be redeveloped
into a cultural area.
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But for now, signs of its
former life are everywhere.
364
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You can still see the tracks
that the carcasses move on.
365
00:24:40,087 --> 00:24:42,742
Oh yeah, for the carcasses,
yeah.
366
00:24:42,785 --> 00:24:45,092
Katie Parla is a renowned
food writer
367
00:24:45,135 --> 00:24:49,444
who swapped New Jersey for Rome
almost 20 years ago.
368
00:24:49,488 --> 00:24:51,272
[KATIE] You got the
veal pavilion here...
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Oh. Vitellara.
370
00:24:52,403 --> 00:24:54,057
Skinning happened there.
371
00:24:54,101 --> 00:24:55,624
-Right.
-The Pellanda.
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00:24:55,668 --> 00:24:58,584
[KATIE] It's an organised place
with so many pavilions.
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-Covering a vast area.
-Right.
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00:25:00,411 --> 00:25:03,153
And really influencing
the types of foods
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that would be eaten just across
the street at the trattorias
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00:25:06,592 --> 00:25:08,855
of the late 19th and
early 20th Century.
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00:25:13,337 --> 00:25:17,211
In butchery, the animal
is quartered and those cuts
378
00:25:17,254 --> 00:25:19,779
went straight to the upper
and middle-class kitchens
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00:25:19,822 --> 00:25:21,432
everything that's left over,
380
00:25:21,476 --> 00:25:23,870
the blood, brains
and intestines,
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was called the quinto quarto -
the fifth quarter -
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00:25:28,091 --> 00:25:30,441
and those were left
to the poor.
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Some workers were even paid
in offal instead of money,
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so they had little choice
but to make the best of it.
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00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:42,453
One restaurant keeping these
historic flavours alive
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00:25:42,497 --> 00:25:44,586
and taking them into
the 21st Century
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00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:46,501
is Santo Palato.
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If you know how to cook offal,
you can turn the poorest guts
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into the richest of dishes...
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00:25:51,637 --> 00:25:53,552
[KATIE] We're hungry right?
391
00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:55,423
-Starving.
-Follow me.
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00:25:55,466 --> 00:25:56,816
I haven't eaten in like an hour.
393
00:25:56,859 --> 00:25:58,818
...and Katie wants
me to meet Sara,
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a young chef
with a growing reputation
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00:26:01,516 --> 00:26:04,693
for doing amazing things
with innards.
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00:26:04,737 --> 00:26:06,434
-[SARA] Bonjourno.
-[TUCCI] Stanley.
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00:26:11,482 --> 00:26:13,615
[KATIE] She's gonna make
a frittata for us
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00:26:13,659 --> 00:26:15,965
and it's topped
with chicken innards.
399
00:26:16,009 --> 00:26:20,448
So everything we focus on here
in your restaurant is offal.
400
00:26:20,491 --> 00:26:22,102
-Yes.
-Yes, good.
401
00:26:27,455 --> 00:26:31,328
-One egg per person. OK. Yep.
-Yes.
402
00:26:39,336 --> 00:26:41,251
-...throughout the day.
-Oh yeah.
403
00:26:41,295 --> 00:26:43,297
Have it for breakfast,
lunch, dinner. Yeah.
404
00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:45,299
-I like it in a sandwich.
-[TUCCI] Yes in a sandwich.
405
00:26:45,342 --> 00:26:47,780
That's what I used to take
when I was a kid to school.
406
00:26:47,823 --> 00:26:49,651
Yeah. I'm very down with that.
407
00:26:49,695 --> 00:26:51,697
Chef Sara gave up
medical school
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00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:54,569
to pursue her dream
of opening a restaurant.
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00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:57,224
[TUCCI] Woah, yes.
410
00:27:10,367 --> 00:27:12,282
[TUCCI] So the stomach, the
heart and the liver.
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00:27:12,326 --> 00:27:13,196
[SARA] Yes.
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00:27:22,858 --> 00:27:27,080
In Rome you find frittata and
chicken organs, but separately.
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00:27:27,123 --> 00:27:28,690
-[TUCCI] But separately.
-[KATIE] Yeah,
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00:27:28,734 --> 00:27:29,996
and she has combined them.
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00:27:39,614 --> 00:27:40,528
[KATIE] It's ready.
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00:27:42,486 --> 00:27:43,836
[TUCCI] Oh wow.
417
00:27:46,403 --> 00:27:49,450
-[KATIE] Smell it. Wow, rich.
-[TUCCI] Oh yeah that's nice.
418
00:27:49,493 --> 00:27:51,974
Don't forget about this bread.
419
00:27:52,018 --> 00:27:55,586
-Oh wow, yeah, nice and hot too.
-[KATIE] So good. Yeah.
420
00:27:56,631 --> 00:27:59,460
Mmm. That's great.
421
00:27:59,503 --> 00:28:00,809
Thank you. [LAUGHS]
422
00:28:02,506 --> 00:28:05,727
-Great.
-This is really special.
423
00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:06,902
And I think it's
a really good demonstration
424
00:28:06,946 --> 00:28:09,078
of what Sara does really well
425
00:28:09,122 --> 00:28:10,732
which is taking Roman classic
flavours and combining them...
426
00:28:10,776 --> 00:28:12,386
-Yeah. Yeah.
-...in a way that's new
427
00:28:12,429 --> 00:28:15,911
but not like revolutionary
or extra contemporary
428
00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:19,436
they just make sense
in the cuisine today.
429
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,482
Sara gets her scalpel
into some beef heart
430
00:28:21,525 --> 00:28:24,311
and we take a seat
in the dining room.
431
00:28:25,181 --> 00:28:26,443
What's that?
432
00:28:35,757 --> 00:28:38,847
Really, this is a really
unusual texture too isn't it?
433
00:28:38,891 --> 00:28:43,286
Alright so if we break down
what the offal are
434
00:28:43,330 --> 00:28:46,507
we have heart, liver,
lungs, stomach...
435
00:28:47,638 --> 00:28:48,727
-Brain.
-...brain,
436
00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:50,511
-sweetbreads...
-...intestines...
437
00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:51,686
-...intestines...
-...snout.
438
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:53,427
-Snout?
-Cartilaginous things
439
00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:54,950
-on the face?
-Oh yeah.
440
00:28:54,994 --> 00:28:56,778
The whole head really,
if you think about it.
441
00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:58,606
The whole head. Yeah.
442
00:28:58,649 --> 00:29:01,783
If pasta is the first pillar
of Roman food
443
00:29:01,827 --> 00:29:06,179
the astonishing use of offal
is definitely the second.
444
00:29:06,222 --> 00:29:09,008
Somehow poor Romans
turn these unpromising cuts
445
00:29:09,051 --> 00:29:13,403
into sheer culinary poetry.
446
00:29:13,447 --> 00:29:14,578
Yeah.
447
00:29:27,809 --> 00:29:31,421
-[TUCCI] Dude, I love oxtail.
-[KATIE] I'm so into it.
448
00:29:31,465 --> 00:29:34,381
-[KATIE] So tasty.
-That's really good.
449
00:29:34,424 --> 00:29:37,471
And this is definitely a more
carnivorous city than it is
450
00:29:37,514 --> 00:29:39,429
-a fish eating city.
-Without question, yeah.
451
00:29:39,473 --> 00:29:42,171
-Even though we're 15 miles
from the sea...
452
00:29:42,215 --> 00:29:44,826
-I know.
-That was really really far
453
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:46,828
in pre-1970s standards
454
00:29:46,872 --> 00:29:49,265
before ice and refrigeration
became more common.
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00:29:49,309 --> 00:29:50,484
[TUCCI] Yeah.
456
00:29:50,527 --> 00:29:52,181
[KATIE] So this is
that honeycomb tripe
457
00:29:52,225 --> 00:29:54,444
with all those really
beautiful pockets.
458
00:29:54,488 --> 00:29:57,012
[KATIE] Lots of nice stomach
geometry going on.
459
00:29:57,056 --> 00:29:58,971
I've never heard it described
as stomach geometry.
460
00:29:59,014 --> 00:30:02,061
It makes it sound much,
much more palatable.
461
00:30:02,104 --> 00:30:05,891
-That is really good.
-It's boiled multiple times
462
00:30:05,934 --> 00:30:08,719
often with vinegar, that
tenderises it and cleans it,
463
00:30:08,763 --> 00:30:10,591
and then it's cooked
in tomato sauce
464
00:30:10,634 --> 00:30:11,940
with pecorino and mint.
465
00:30:11,984 --> 00:30:13,724
-So in Rome...
-Pecorino and mint?
466
00:30:13,768 --> 00:30:16,075
Yeah. In Rome this is really
the only way you find tripe,
467
00:30:16,118 --> 00:30:18,468
in fact the dish is called
''Trippa alla Romana'
468
00:30:18,512 --> 00:30:20,340
and go to another place,
Florence included,
469
00:30:20,383 --> 00:30:23,125
and the tripe
is prepared differently.
470
00:30:23,169 --> 00:30:26,389
Stewed stomach may not sound
appealing, I know,
471
00:30:26,433 --> 00:30:31,873
but believe me, these are
really tasty flavours.
472
00:30:31,917 --> 00:30:34,180
The Roman poor didn't have much
to work with,
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00:30:34,223 --> 00:30:36,095
but against the odds,
they wound up
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00:30:36,138 --> 00:30:38,967
making some of the very
best food in the city.
475
00:30:39,011 --> 00:30:43,145
What can I say? Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much Katie.
476
00:31:12,740 --> 00:31:13,784
Thank you, thank you.
477
00:31:13,828 --> 00:31:15,612
We're here in Rome
478
00:31:15,656 --> 00:31:19,007
and it's the most wonderful
time of the year.
479
00:31:19,051 --> 00:31:21,923
No, it's not Christmas,
480
00:31:21,967 --> 00:31:24,230
it's artichoke season.
481
00:31:26,972 --> 00:31:28,625
Right now, markets
across the city
482
00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:30,453
are humming with the
sound of people
483
00:31:30,497 --> 00:31:33,413
hacking away
at Rome's favourite vegetable.
484
00:31:35,850 --> 00:31:40,550
So show me the artichokes.
485
00:31:40,594 --> 00:31:42,770
As I've been finding out,
with Roman food,
486
00:31:42,813 --> 00:31:44,728
you sometimes have
to dig a little
487
00:31:44,772 --> 00:31:46,165
to get to the good stuff.
488
00:31:46,208 --> 00:31:48,080
So this is for the
Carciofi Ro...
489
00:31:48,123 --> 00:31:49,908
-Alla Romana.
-...alla Romana.
490
00:31:49,951 --> 00:31:53,824
Or alla Giudia
491
00:31:53,868 --> 00:31:56,175
Once trimmed, they
can be deep fried
492
00:31:56,218 --> 00:31:58,742
to make one of my all-time
favourite Roman foods.
493
00:31:58,786 --> 00:32:03,051
Carciofi alla Giudia -
Jewish fried artichokes.
494
00:32:03,095 --> 00:32:06,750
You know my grandmother
and my mother would make these.
495
00:32:06,794 --> 00:32:08,796
Ask anyone here
and they'll tell you
496
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:10,711
that this weird
looking vegetable
497
00:32:10,754 --> 00:32:13,801
is a definitive Roman food...
498
00:32:13,844 --> 00:32:15,759
-Thank you so much.
-Thank you.
499
00:32:15,803 --> 00:32:17,587
-Bye-bye.
-Ciao, ciao, ciao.
500
00:32:17,631 --> 00:32:20,939
...but what I love is that
under those rough outer leaves
501
00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:22,941
it contains an entire history.
502
00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:26,205
A story of how
society's outcasts
503
00:32:26,248 --> 00:32:29,730
can change the habits
of an entire city.
504
00:32:32,907 --> 00:32:34,778
These picturesque ruins
505
00:32:34,822 --> 00:32:38,652
once contained the misery
of Rome's Jewish ghetto.
506
00:32:38,695 --> 00:32:40,741
From the 1500s onwards,
507
00:32:40,784 --> 00:32:42,743
the city's entire
Jewish community
508
00:32:42,786 --> 00:32:44,701
was locked in this walled area,
509
00:32:44,745 --> 00:32:48,314
only allowed to leave to do
menial jobs in the daytime
510
00:32:48,357 --> 00:32:50,707
before being locked in
at night.
511
00:33:16,516 --> 00:33:19,649
Italia Tagliacozzo
is in her 80s
512
00:33:19,693 --> 00:33:21,651
and has lived here
her whole life.
513
00:33:30,269 --> 00:33:34,012
When the Nazis seized Rome
in October 1943,
514
00:33:34,055 --> 00:33:35,839
the ghetto was a sitting target
515
00:33:35,883 --> 00:33:39,930
and it's 1,204 residents were
sent to the gas chambers.
516
00:33:39,974 --> 00:33:42,803
Italia was one of just
a handful who escaped
517
00:33:42,846 --> 00:33:45,153
when her uncle hid her
outside the city.
518
00:33:51,464 --> 00:33:53,422
For the few who survived,
519
00:33:53,466 --> 00:33:56,512
food became a vital link
back to their past.
520
00:33:58,514 --> 00:34:01,474
The Jews of Rome had lived
in poverty for centuries
521
00:34:01,517 --> 00:34:04,955
and were forced to rely on
the cheapest of ingredients.
522
00:34:25,585 --> 00:34:27,891
Using typical Roman
inventiveness,
523
00:34:27,935 --> 00:34:30,285
the Jews transformed
unloved ingredients
524
00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:33,419
like anchovies, eggplants
and artichokes
525
00:34:33,462 --> 00:34:36,291
into dishes that
the entire city
526
00:34:36,335 --> 00:34:39,425
would eventually
take to its heart.
527
00:34:39,468 --> 00:34:43,211
Alongside pasta and offal,
the influence of Jewish cooking
528
00:34:43,255 --> 00:34:46,780
is the third pillar
of Roman cuisine today.
529
00:34:46,823 --> 00:34:48,651
Italia set up a restaurant
530
00:34:48,695 --> 00:34:51,567
serving the best Jewish food
in the ghetto.
531
00:35:05,842 --> 00:35:08,584
In this kitchen, Italia
and her crack team
532
00:35:08,628 --> 00:35:12,980
raise the humble artichoke
into food for the ages.
533
00:35:18,203 --> 00:35:20,118
-Georgio.
-Georgio.
534
00:35:31,955 --> 00:35:35,742
OK, so this is that
535
00:35:35,785 --> 00:35:36,873
that was done yesterday -
536
00:35:36,917 --> 00:35:37,874
cooked in the oil
537
00:35:37,918 --> 00:35:39,137
and then refrigerated.
538
00:35:43,228 --> 00:35:45,012
Alright so he's
spreading out the leaves.
539
00:35:45,055 --> 00:35:46,622
So cooked, pre-cooked
540
00:35:54,108 --> 00:35:55,718
Look at how beautiful that is.
541
00:36:15,782 --> 00:36:20,874
That's the best one I've had.
That is delicious.
542
00:36:20,917 --> 00:36:24,094
It's so addictive.
It's like eating candy.
543
00:36:24,138 --> 00:36:27,185
You just can't stop,
it's so crispy.
544
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,113
That people love. Yeah.
545
00:36:48,031 --> 00:36:50,512
This dish tells a story.
546
00:36:50,556 --> 00:36:53,123
It has survived
the darkest of times
547
00:36:53,167 --> 00:36:56,214
and links us to a past
that was almost wiped out.
548
00:36:56,257 --> 00:37:00,914
To me it's a type of historical
monument in Italian cooking,
549
00:37:00,957 --> 00:37:02,655
now beloved by everyone,
550
00:37:02,698 --> 00:37:05,353
and proudly embraced
by the entire city.
551
00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:17,104
It's my last night in Rome.
552
00:37:17,147 --> 00:37:19,933
During my time here, I've
learned that, above all else,
553
00:37:19,976 --> 00:37:24,633
food in Italy is about who you
are and where you're from.
554
00:37:26,983 --> 00:37:30,160
But where does that leave you
if you're an outsider?
555
00:37:30,204 --> 00:37:32,293
I've come to Bistro 64,
556
00:37:32,337 --> 00:37:34,904
a restaurant that has won a
Michelin star for serving up
557
00:37:34,948 --> 00:37:38,038
some of the best Italian food
in the city.
558
00:37:38,081 --> 00:37:39,387
The surprising thing is
559
00:37:39,431 --> 00:37:41,607
that the chef is an
out-of-towner...
560
00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:43,391
...and no he's not
from Naples,
561
00:37:43,435 --> 00:37:45,175
or even Milan,
562
00:37:45,219 --> 00:37:47,221
he's from Japan.
563
00:37:50,050 --> 00:37:52,139
-Stanley.
-Kotaro.
564
00:37:52,182 --> 00:37:54,315
-Nice to meet you.
-Pleasure. Nice to meet you too.
565
00:37:56,099 --> 00:37:59,364
Kotaro Noda was lured here
20 years ago
566
00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:03,019
by his obsession with the
flavours of Italian cuisine.
567
00:38:16,903 --> 00:38:19,862
Noda's food has won praise
for its creativity
568
00:38:19,906 --> 00:38:23,170
but tonight he's making
the simplest Roman classic.
569
00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:24,998
It's one of the famous
Four Pastas,
570
00:38:25,041 --> 00:38:26,695
cacio e pepe,
571
00:38:26,739 --> 00:38:29,829
literally 'cheese and pepper.'
572
00:38:34,137 --> 00:38:36,314
There are just three
main ingredients
573
00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:37,880
but it takes great skill
574
00:38:37,924 --> 00:38:40,535
to make this Roman
favourite perfect.
575
00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:57,683
Of course,
another Italian kitchen secret.
576
00:39:28,322 --> 00:39:30,498
Could take a while.
577
00:39:40,595 --> 00:39:45,078
I know you may be thinking
this is ludicrously simple food
578
00:39:45,121 --> 00:39:47,341
but believe me,
it's extraordinary
579
00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:49,387
and don't just
take my word for it.
580
00:39:50,736 --> 00:39:55,610
Where's Karen? Karen? Come here.
581
00:39:55,654 --> 00:39:57,046
Right.
582
00:39:57,090 --> 00:39:58,134
-OK.
-OK. OK.
583
00:39:58,178 --> 00:39:59,919
This is Karen who
works with us,
584
00:39:59,962 --> 00:40:02,443
one of the producers.
She's from Rome.
585
00:40:02,487 --> 00:40:04,793
-So you tell us what you think.
-OK. OK. No pressure.
586
00:40:04,837 --> 00:40:07,448
No. No pressure, no pressure.
He's not nervous at all.
587
00:40:07,492 --> 00:40:09,319
[NODA] I'm not nervous.
588
00:40:09,363 --> 00:40:11,060
[TUCCI] He doesn't care
about our opinion.
589
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,549
-[NODA] Va bene?
-It's divine. Yes, it's so good.
590
00:40:21,593 --> 00:40:23,551
It's perfectly creamy.
591
00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:27,120
It's not too intense, it's not
overloaded with flavour.
592
00:40:27,163 --> 00:40:28,338
-Yeah.
-It's the perfect
593
00:40:28,382 --> 00:40:29,644
-amount of pepper...
-Yeah.
594
00:40:29,688 --> 00:40:31,341
And it really respects,
you know,
595
00:40:31,385 --> 00:40:34,432
how it would be cooked
in a family.
596
00:40:49,577 --> 00:40:51,623
There's always a secret.
597
00:40:51,666 --> 00:40:54,321
There's always a secret, that's
true. There's always a secret.
598
00:40:54,364 --> 00:40:56,192
When it comes to food,
599
00:40:56,236 --> 00:40:58,978
Romans know what they like
and like what they know.
600
00:40:59,021 --> 00:41:01,197
Beyond his masterful take
on the classics
601
00:41:01,241 --> 00:41:03,939
Noda's menu is full of
incredible innovations,
602
00:41:03,983 --> 00:41:06,768
from sweetbreads with heart
603
00:41:06,812 --> 00:41:10,555
to purple potato cream
with plum gelato.
604
00:41:10,598 --> 00:41:13,035
I was curious how the city
had taken to his creations.
605
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:41,107
The downside of Rome
being so steeped in history
606
00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:43,762
is that sometimes great things
are resisted
607
00:41:43,805 --> 00:41:47,722
because they're new and not
what people are used to.
608
00:41:47,766 --> 00:41:51,160
Missing food this good
is a real shame.
609
00:41:52,422 --> 00:41:54,816
I'm sorry.
610
00:41:54,860 --> 00:41:56,470
But here's the thing -
611
00:41:56,514 --> 00:42:00,343
the one thing Romans can't
resist is a good meal
612
00:42:00,387 --> 00:42:02,041
and I'm hopeful that soon
613
00:42:02,084 --> 00:42:05,348
Noda's food will be another
culinary landmark
614
00:42:05,392 --> 00:42:08,134
in this eternal city.
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