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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,724 --> 00:00:09,724 [laughs] 2 00:00:11,275 --> 00:00:12,585 Are you going night night? 3 00:00:13,655 --> 00:00:14,685 Night night. 4 00:00:15,172 --> 00:00:16,342 Hey, good night. 5 00:00:17,241 --> 00:00:18,621 Listen good night. 6 00:00:18,655 --> 00:00:19,895 -Okay. -Good night. 7 00:00:19,931 --> 00:00:20,971 [laughs] 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:21,970 Sweet dreams. 9 00:00:22,793 --> 00:00:23,793 See you tomorrow. 10 00:00:24,827 --> 00:00:25,657 I love you. 11 00:00:25,689 --> 00:00:26,899 [mumbles] 12 00:00:26,931 --> 00:00:27,971 Peace out, dude. 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:28,830 No! 14 00:00:28,862 --> 00:00:30,792 [both laugh] 15 00:00:30,827 --> 00:00:32,517 [Kat] Lacey was a great mom. 16 00:00:32,551 --> 00:00:35,031 Garnett, he was a happy little boy. 17 00:00:35,068 --> 00:00:37,548 He didn't have a care in the world. 18 00:00:45,275 --> 00:00:46,925 [woman chuckling] 19 00:00:50,344 --> 00:00:52,344 [laughing] 20 00:01:02,448 --> 00:01:06,788 I remember Lacey posting this picture. 21 00:01:06,827 --> 00:01:10,407 And, clearly, you can see by the look on his face, he's excited. 22 00:01:10,448 --> 00:01:12,448 He was excited for a new adventure. 23 00:01:14,068 --> 00:01:16,278 The whole scenario is completely 24 00:01:17,413 --> 00:01:20,213 loaded with what ifs, what ifs, what ifs. 25 00:01:20,724 --> 00:01:21,834 Nana. 26 00:01:21,862 --> 00:01:23,142 Nana. 27 00:01:23,172 --> 00:01:24,072 Papa. 28 00:01:24,103 --> 00:01:25,763 Na-Papa. 29 00:01:27,448 --> 00:01:29,028 I guess when something like this happens, 30 00:01:29,068 --> 00:01:32,028 it makes you, literally, go back and rethink everything. 31 00:01:33,206 --> 00:01:34,656 [male news reporter 1] Detectives started searching 32 00:01:34,689 --> 00:01:37,169 the Chestnut Ridge Fellowship Community. 33 00:01:37,206 --> 00:01:41,026 The retirement center was where Lacey Spears worked and lived with her son. 34 00:01:45,275 --> 00:01:47,235 [opening theme music playing] 35 00:01:58,103 --> 00:02:00,003 [intense music playing] 36 00:02:00,034 --> 00:02:01,524 [bird caws] 37 00:02:04,206 --> 00:02:06,276 So, right now, we're at the base 38 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:07,930 of the Fellowship Community, 39 00:02:07,965 --> 00:02:09,785 the property stretches over here. 40 00:02:10,655 --> 00:02:12,475 This is where Lacey Spears lived. 41 00:02:13,206 --> 00:02:14,926 After incident that happened, 42 00:02:14,965 --> 00:02:17,065 we were coming here several times a week 43 00:02:17,103 --> 00:02:20,723 to interview different people, to talk to different people in the community. 44 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,520 Pretty much, uh, this is where the investigation started. 45 00:02:28,103 --> 00:02:31,523 The Fellowship Community, they keep to themselves. 46 00:02:31,551 --> 00:02:34,931 So, when people keep to themselves, 47 00:02:34,965 --> 00:02:38,135 the unknown creates mysteries in people's minds, 48 00:02:38,172 --> 00:02:40,142 and they don't know what's going on with them. 49 00:02:40,172 --> 00:02:43,342 But there wasn't a lot of crime going on here at all. 50 00:02:43,379 --> 00:02:45,379 That is, until this case. 51 00:02:54,241 --> 00:02:56,481 [Mallory] Decatur is a small town, 52 00:02:56,517 --> 00:03:00,237 that everyone knows everyone and it's really homey. 53 00:03:00,275 --> 00:03:02,165 Very nice, family town. 54 00:03:03,689 --> 00:03:05,139 A lot of people moved back from college 55 00:03:05,172 --> 00:03:06,832 to raise their kids here. 56 00:03:10,689 --> 00:03:13,169 When I was in kindergarten, I met Lacey. 57 00:03:13,206 --> 00:03:17,096 She was in my class and she was my very best friend. 58 00:03:17,137 --> 00:03:19,857 I remember we'd play dress up in kindergarten. 59 00:03:19,896 --> 00:03:21,856 Our teacher had this big box 60 00:03:21,896 --> 00:03:24,476 and you could just go through it and pick out anything. 61 00:03:24,517 --> 00:03:27,207 We always were playing house. 62 00:03:27,241 --> 00:03:30,141 And she would always want to be the mom, 63 00:03:30,172 --> 00:03:31,932 and I would always have to be the dad. 64 00:03:31,965 --> 00:03:34,925 She always wanted to make sure she was taking care of the babies. 65 00:03:34,965 --> 00:03:37,475 You could just tell, she always wanted to be a mom. 66 00:03:37,517 --> 00:03:39,067 That was the life she wanted. 67 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,970 [Kat] This used to be childcare network. 68 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,930 This is where Lacey and I used to work together, 69 00:03:53,965 --> 00:03:57,965 where she had the infant room and I had the toddler room. 70 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,070 Miss Lacey was one of the best childcare provider teachers 71 00:04:02,103 --> 00:04:05,863 a parent with a new child could ever ask for. 72 00:04:05,896 --> 00:04:08,336 She cared for them as if they were her own. 73 00:04:09,310 --> 00:04:11,030 At childcare network, 74 00:04:11,068 --> 00:04:13,998 probably the best memory was the Subway lunches every day. 75 00:04:14,034 --> 00:04:18,174 That was, literally, our lunch every day for a year. 76 00:04:18,206 --> 00:04:20,476 She would eat half a sub, and I'd eat the other half of the sub 77 00:04:20,517 --> 00:04:21,897 while the babies were napping. 78 00:04:22,620 --> 00:04:25,480 That was our gossip hour. 79 00:04:25,517 --> 00:04:28,517 We talked about everything and nothing, all at the same. 80 00:04:29,517 --> 00:04:31,277 Lacey was very young, 81 00:04:31,310 --> 00:04:35,170 but she seemed like she had her whole life figured out at 20. 82 00:04:35,206 --> 00:04:38,546 Like, "I'm going to finish school, I want a baby." 83 00:04:38,586 --> 00:04:39,966 But she didn't want a man. 84 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000 She didn't want a baby daddy or anything like that. 85 00:04:43,034 --> 00:04:45,174 She knew that she could do it on her own. 86 00:04:45,206 --> 00:04:49,786 Nobody ever understood how she was going to do it on her own financially. 87 00:04:49,827 --> 00:04:51,447 But she made it work. 88 00:04:59,034 --> 00:05:01,414 She was over the moon. 89 00:05:01,448 --> 00:05:04,378 "I'm pregnant. I'm pregnant. I can't wait. I can't believe it." 90 00:05:04,413 --> 00:05:08,243 And that's when we started picking out names over our Subway lunches. 91 00:05:10,241 --> 00:05:14,071 And she was like, "Well, what do you think about Garnett Paul Spears?" 92 00:05:14,103 --> 00:05:16,383 And I said, "Lacey, you can't do that." 93 00:05:16,413 --> 00:05:18,213 I said, "His initials will be GPS. 94 00:05:19,172 --> 00:05:20,382 Why would you do that to him?" 95 00:05:20,965 --> 00:05:22,475 She was like, 96 00:05:22,517 --> 00:05:23,787 "Only you would think of that." 97 00:05:23,827 --> 00:05:25,547 I said, "You're welcome." 98 00:05:25,586 --> 00:05:27,586 [hospital monitor beeping] 99 00:05:30,655 --> 00:05:32,855 The day Garnett-Paul Thompson Spears was born 100 00:05:32,896 --> 00:05:34,856 was absolutely amazing. 101 00:05:34,896 --> 00:05:37,236 She did great delivering. 102 00:05:37,275 --> 00:05:39,895 He came out happy and healthy. 103 00:05:41,896 --> 00:05:45,206 He was perfect, in every essence of the word, he was perfect. 104 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,140 But when Lacey had his birth certificate done, 105 00:05:56,172 --> 00:05:58,002 there was no father's name listed. 106 00:05:59,965 --> 00:06:03,375 [Mallory] At first, I just thought, 107 00:06:03,413 --> 00:06:05,413 you know, "The dad wasn't involved," 108 00:06:05,448 --> 00:06:07,068 something along those lines. 109 00:06:07,103 --> 00:06:10,763 And then, I read on her blog how, you know, he was taken from her. 110 00:06:13,068 --> 00:06:16,138 [reading] "One year ago today, my soul mate and son's father 111 00:06:16,172 --> 00:06:19,902 was involved in an automobile accident that claimed his life," she wrote. 112 00:06:19,931 --> 00:06:22,661 "I was in no way prepared for this experience. 113 00:06:22,689 --> 00:06:27,209 I lost a part of myself that horrible night and I'll never get it back. 114 00:06:27,241 --> 00:06:31,001 He had a beautiful country accent, a heart-warming smile, 115 00:06:31,034 --> 00:06:33,344 joyous laugh and an amazing soul. 116 00:06:33,379 --> 00:06:36,479 We miss him every morning and every night." 117 00:06:37,241 --> 00:06:38,381 I thought, "That is terrible, 118 00:06:38,413 --> 00:06:41,073 and here she is, raising this kid, and he has no dad." 119 00:06:42,241 --> 00:06:44,341 It broke my heart. 120 00:06:44,379 --> 00:06:45,719 She's doing everything she can, 121 00:06:45,758 --> 00:06:47,688 and, now, she's lost the love of her life. 122 00:06:50,517 --> 00:06:52,137 Lacey was an open book 123 00:06:52,896 --> 00:06:54,166 until it came to that. 124 00:06:54,206 --> 00:06:55,476 And then she was like, 125 00:06:56,172 --> 00:06:58,622 very, very private. 126 00:06:58,655 --> 00:07:00,095 She didn't want to talk about. 127 00:07:03,482 --> 00:07:06,662 As soon as she came home, and was feeling better and everything like that, 128 00:07:06,689 --> 00:07:08,519 she was back in day care, 129 00:07:08,551 --> 00:07:12,381 and Garnett was with her and, um. 130 00:07:12,413 --> 00:07:14,343 She was like any other new mom. 131 00:07:14,379 --> 00:07:15,689 Everything was amazing. 132 00:07:16,689 --> 00:07:18,069 And then this. 133 00:07:22,344 --> 00:07:24,314 [hospital monitor beeping] 134 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,310 One day, she called in sick, 135 00:07:30,344 --> 00:07:34,284 and I was having to cover her shifts and my shifts. 136 00:07:34,310 --> 00:07:38,070 I said, "Why? Why is Lacey not coming in today? Where is Lacey?" 137 00:07:38,103 --> 00:07:41,143 She said, "Garnett's bleeding from his eyes and his ears." 138 00:07:41,172 --> 00:07:43,072 I'm just, "I'm sorry, how? 139 00:07:43,965 --> 00:07:46,515 Do we know how this is happening?" 140 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,590 With regard to Garnett's health, he had, um, 141 00:07:52,620 --> 00:07:56,520 what the doctors would term a, "Failure to thrive," issue. 142 00:07:58,620 --> 00:08:02,660 The early issue that Garnett was having, was the acid reflux. 143 00:08:02,689 --> 00:08:07,139 The constant acid reflux into his esophagus 144 00:08:07,172 --> 00:08:09,382 can cause long-term damage to him. 145 00:08:09,413 --> 00:08:13,903 And what they did was a surgical procedure of his stomach 146 00:08:13,931 --> 00:08:18,031 in order to prevent the acid from refluxing back up into his esophagus, 147 00:08:18,068 --> 00:08:20,068 into his, you know, his windpipe. 148 00:08:20,103 --> 00:08:22,313 One of the other issues that needed to be addressed 149 00:08:22,344 --> 00:08:26,834 was his ability to get nourishment from eating. 150 00:08:26,862 --> 00:08:30,762 And because he was not a consistent eater as a baby, 151 00:08:30,793 --> 00:08:35,693 the doctors in Alabama determined that he needed another medical procedure, 152 00:08:35,724 --> 00:08:39,554 and that medical procedure was to insert a feeding tube 153 00:08:39,586 --> 00:08:43,616 which went from the outside of his abdomen in directly into his stomach. 154 00:08:43,655 --> 00:08:45,825 It's called a G-tube. 155 00:08:45,862 --> 00:08:48,622 [Kat] Every time he was in the hospital, that's when I would call her, 156 00:08:48,655 --> 00:08:50,025 "Hey, what's going on with Garnett?" 157 00:08:51,034 --> 00:08:53,524 "He's fine. He's laying here asleep." 158 00:08:53,551 --> 00:08:55,101 She was always by his side. 159 00:08:56,689 --> 00:08:57,999 [Lacey] Look at the front of him. 160 00:08:58,586 --> 00:08:59,716 Look at the front of him. 161 00:08:59,758 --> 00:09:01,998 What's special about him? Look at his belly. 162 00:09:03,689 --> 00:09:05,619 Oh, what is it? Oh, that. 163 00:09:05,655 --> 00:09:06,925 What does he have? 164 00:09:10,206 --> 00:09:12,406 [Lacey] He has a G-tube just like you. 165 00:09:40,655 --> 00:09:43,375 [Mallory] I learned about the moving to New York on Facebook, 166 00:09:43,413 --> 00:09:45,453 and the reasoning was that 167 00:09:45,482 --> 00:09:48,242 this would be the best way for her to take care of him. 168 00:09:48,275 --> 00:09:51,375 [Riebling] One of the points that was important to Lacey 169 00:09:51,413 --> 00:09:54,413 in moving to the Fellowship Community 170 00:09:54,448 --> 00:09:58,478 was the type of lifestyle, sort of, like a farm environment. 171 00:09:59,413 --> 00:10:02,143 And eating holistically, 172 00:10:02,172 --> 00:10:06,932 and eating natural foods was important to her. 173 00:10:06,965 --> 00:10:09,165 Plus, given all the medical concerns 174 00:10:09,206 --> 00:10:11,656 that Garnett had for his digestion, 175 00:10:11,689 --> 00:10:14,689 feeding and everything like that, that was also 176 00:10:15,724 --> 00:10:18,214 a recommended, sort of, lifestyle 177 00:10:18,241 --> 00:10:21,411 from the types of doctors that she was dealing with. 178 00:10:22,241 --> 00:10:23,551 -Go? -[Lacey] Go. 179 00:10:31,758 --> 00:10:33,968 [Kat] The last time I seen her and Garnett, 180 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,590 we had lunch at Chick-fil-A. 181 00:10:36,758 --> 00:10:39,378 And she was moving to New York. 182 00:10:40,379 --> 00:10:41,719 [Lacey] What do we need to do? 183 00:10:41,758 --> 00:10:43,448 [with a lisp] Get the show on the road. 184 00:10:43,482 --> 00:10:44,622 [Lacey] Get the what on the road? 185 00:10:44,655 --> 00:10:46,545 The show on the road. 186 00:10:46,586 --> 00:10:48,306 [Kat] I remember kissing Garnett on the cheek 187 00:10:48,344 --> 00:10:49,834 and telling him Aunt Kathy loved him. 188 00:10:51,482 --> 00:10:54,142 And I said, "You be good for Mama." 189 00:11:02,310 --> 00:11:04,070 Lacey always promised to visit, 190 00:11:04,103 --> 00:11:05,523 but when she moved to New York, 191 00:11:06,862 --> 00:11:08,002 I never saw her again. 192 00:11:29,068 --> 00:11:30,898 That's the picture that Lacey had posted 193 00:11:30,931 --> 00:11:32,971 when they were in New York. 194 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,760 And that was also his first day of kindergarten. 195 00:11:36,517 --> 00:11:37,997 "I walked to school." 196 00:11:38,034 --> 00:11:41,104 I remember Lacey posting this picture. 197 00:11:41,137 --> 00:11:43,757 His favorite color was red, definitely. 198 00:11:47,172 --> 00:11:49,172 Almost everything he wore was red. 199 00:11:49,551 --> 00:11:50,591 Whoa! 200 00:11:52,344 --> 00:11:53,454 [Kat] He had a red cape, 201 00:11:53,482 --> 00:11:56,972 he had red shoes and he was so proud of them. 202 00:11:58,344 --> 00:12:00,594 He was so excited. 203 00:12:00,620 --> 00:12:04,030 Whatever journey she drug him on, he was excited for it. 204 00:12:15,758 --> 00:12:20,098 [Lacey] ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 205 00:12:20,137 --> 00:12:21,447 Blow your candles out. 206 00:12:23,103 --> 00:12:24,213 What? 207 00:12:24,793 --> 00:12:26,243 Oh, they all blowed out. 208 00:12:26,275 --> 00:12:27,515 [Lacey] Happy birthday, Garnett. 209 00:12:29,965 --> 00:12:32,995 [Kat] She had Garnett's whole life on social media. 210 00:12:34,172 --> 00:12:37,282 I tried to keep up with it, but she would have oodles, 211 00:12:37,310 --> 00:12:42,030 like, hundreds and hundreds of thousands on Facebook and Instagram. 212 00:12:42,068 --> 00:12:45,448 Sometimes she would post about his medical illnesses. 213 00:12:45,482 --> 00:12:49,102 That this was so many times that he'd been in the hospital 214 00:12:49,137 --> 00:12:52,377 or Garnett had another seizure. 215 00:12:52,413 --> 00:12:54,213 It was just gut wrenching. 216 00:12:57,620 --> 00:12:59,410 [Mallory] She was such a loving mother, 217 00:12:59,448 --> 00:13:02,448 and she wanted the best for her son, 218 00:13:02,482 --> 00:13:05,692 and her followers were really positive toward her. 219 00:13:05,724 --> 00:13:07,074 And there were some people on there 220 00:13:07,103 --> 00:13:09,663 that just followed her that she'd never even met before. 221 00:13:09,689 --> 00:13:11,309 They were just so supportive. 222 00:13:16,620 --> 00:13:18,620 [hospital monitor beeping] 223 00:13:23,448 --> 00:13:25,828 [Riebling] Garnett's sodium level was dangerously high, 224 00:13:25,862 --> 00:13:28,002 and there are physical reactions 225 00:13:28,034 --> 00:13:30,594 that the body has as a result. 226 00:13:30,620 --> 00:13:35,720 He complained of issues with eating, vomiting, retching, 227 00:13:35,758 --> 00:13:37,618 and what they need to do 228 00:13:37,655 --> 00:13:40,925 is they need to reverse the effects 229 00:13:40,965 --> 00:13:43,165 of the hypernatremia, the elevated salt level. 230 00:13:43,827 --> 00:13:46,377 Part of the evaluation was, 231 00:13:46,413 --> 00:13:47,863 "What was the cause." 232 00:13:47,896 --> 00:13:49,996 The doctors did not know. 233 00:13:54,103 --> 00:13:57,413 [Kat] His sodium levels were extremely accelerated. 234 00:13:57,448 --> 00:14:00,138 "So is he having a chemical reaction? Is this chemical? 235 00:14:00,172 --> 00:14:03,142 Is, like, body chemicals, are they imbalanced? 236 00:14:03,172 --> 00:14:05,212 Is that why his sodium is elevated?" 237 00:14:05,241 --> 00:14:07,001 And I called her and I was like, 238 00:14:07,034 --> 00:14:08,554 "Lacey, what are they telling you? 239 00:14:08,586 --> 00:14:10,896 They have to have answers at this point." 240 00:14:10,931 --> 00:14:13,141 And she was like, "They're not telling me anything. 241 00:14:13,172 --> 00:14:16,552 They're just saying his sodium levels are through the roof." 242 00:14:22,137 --> 00:14:24,897 [Riebling] Throughout the day on January 19th, 243 00:14:24,931 --> 00:14:28,661 what you see on the video from the hospital 244 00:14:28,689 --> 00:14:31,379 is that they give him medications 245 00:14:31,413 --> 00:14:34,833 to abate the symptoms that he's having. 246 00:14:34,862 --> 00:14:38,662 And over the course of the next 24 to 36 hours, 247 00:14:38,689 --> 00:14:41,239 Garnett Spears, by everyone's account, 248 00:14:41,275 --> 00:14:45,025 returns to his baseline neurological state. 249 00:14:45,068 --> 00:14:47,068 He's talking, he's laughing, 250 00:14:47,103 --> 00:14:49,663 he's able to communicate as he normally would. 251 00:14:50,931 --> 00:14:52,831 [Kat] Lacey had posted on Facebook 252 00:14:52,862 --> 00:14:55,312 that the hospital was going to release him 253 00:14:55,344 --> 00:14:57,414 and he was going to go home 'cause he was healthy, 254 00:14:57,448 --> 00:15:00,548 his sodium levels had leveled out to safe levels. 255 00:15:00,586 --> 00:15:02,206 I was most definitely relieved. 256 00:15:02,241 --> 00:15:04,411 "Okay, finally, he's going to get to go home." 257 00:15:05,241 --> 00:15:06,311 [Mallory] She posted a picture, 258 00:15:06,344 --> 00:15:08,314 and he had all this stuff on his head, 259 00:15:08,344 --> 00:15:09,554 and he was sitting in the bed eating, 260 00:15:09,586 --> 00:15:13,206 and she's looking at him so peacefully and sweet. 261 00:15:13,241 --> 00:15:14,211 He was so happy. 262 00:15:14,241 --> 00:15:15,901 He looked like he was going to be all right. 263 00:15:17,655 --> 00:15:19,335 And... 264 00:15:19,379 --> 00:15:21,789 And then, it was weird because the next thing I know, 265 00:15:21,827 --> 00:15:23,027 he was having seizures. 266 00:15:25,034 --> 00:15:26,664 [Riebling] So what happens later in the day, 267 00:15:26,689 --> 00:15:28,929 is that Garnett's symptoms return, 268 00:15:28,965 --> 00:15:31,205 but they're worse this time. 269 00:15:31,241 --> 00:15:32,831 Garnett is prompting his mother 270 00:15:32,862 --> 00:15:34,212 that he has to go to the bathroom, 271 00:15:34,241 --> 00:15:36,001 and he does this repeatedly. 272 00:15:37,551 --> 00:15:40,281 That night, she checks on Garnett. 273 00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:44,070 And you can you can see in her reaction, 274 00:15:44,103 --> 00:15:47,523 um, the emotion and the fear of what's happening. 275 00:15:47,551 --> 00:15:50,001 She looks at his face and she recoils, 276 00:15:50,034 --> 00:15:51,904 and then, immediately sprints out of the room. 277 00:15:51,931 --> 00:15:54,171 She was screaming for help. 278 00:15:54,206 --> 00:15:56,516 She was desperate for help. 279 00:15:56,551 --> 00:16:01,281 You could really get a sense and a feel for her terror in that moment. 280 00:16:01,310 --> 00:16:06,860 And a determination was made to airlift Garnett from Nyack 281 00:16:06,896 --> 00:16:08,276 to Westchester County Medical Center. 282 00:16:14,241 --> 00:16:16,591 [Mallory] I was at work and I read the post 283 00:16:16,620 --> 00:16:19,380 they were airlifting him to a different hospital. 284 00:16:19,413 --> 00:16:20,553 And I was thinking, "Oh my stars, 285 00:16:20,586 --> 00:16:22,446 like, this really escalated really quickly. 286 00:16:22,482 --> 00:16:23,692 What is going on?" 287 00:16:23,724 --> 00:16:25,724 So I made sure to keep my phone by me 288 00:16:25,758 --> 00:16:29,378 so I knew, you know, I could keep up with the update. 289 00:16:29,413 --> 00:16:31,693 You know, she was very good about posting and making sure 290 00:16:31,724 --> 00:16:35,034 that we were all up to date on what was going on. 291 00:16:45,137 --> 00:16:48,967 [Kat] It was probably somewhere between 24 and 48 hours later, 292 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,100 she posted that he had took an immediate turn for the worse 293 00:16:54,137 --> 00:16:56,137 and he was on life support. 294 00:16:56,172 --> 00:16:58,552 There was a life support post 295 00:16:58,586 --> 00:17:02,756 and then, there was a post about saying the doctors had come in 296 00:17:02,793 --> 00:17:05,143 and said that Garnett is brain dead. 297 00:17:09,931 --> 00:17:11,211 And then, 298 00:17:13,034 --> 00:17:15,974 it was probably six hours after that. 299 00:17:17,310 --> 00:17:21,660 The last post was, "Garnett the Great journeyed onward." 300 00:17:23,413 --> 00:17:24,693 I fell to the floor. 301 00:17:25,827 --> 00:17:27,237 I couldn't believe it. 302 00:17:28,413 --> 00:17:29,723 He was gone. 303 00:17:30,896 --> 00:17:31,896 A boat. 304 00:17:35,689 --> 00:17:36,689 [sniffles] 305 00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:42,143 Okay, how do I... 306 00:17:45,793 --> 00:17:47,693 Hop. Ah. 307 00:17:47,724 --> 00:17:49,764 He was absolutely full of life. 308 00:17:49,793 --> 00:17:51,383 He was just like Lacey. 309 00:17:51,413 --> 00:17:53,143 He was full of life, he was happy. 310 00:17:53,172 --> 00:17:54,722 He got up in a good mood. 311 00:17:54,758 --> 00:17:55,998 [laughs] 312 00:17:56,034 --> 00:18:00,384 [Kat] There was nothing you could do to make him sad. 313 00:18:00,413 --> 00:18:01,663 [Garnett] Whoa. 314 00:18:02,793 --> 00:18:05,413 He was, I mean, he was just the sweetest little boy. 315 00:18:06,448 --> 00:18:07,588 And he loved his Mama. 316 00:18:11,862 --> 00:18:12,932 [laughs] 317 00:18:13,862 --> 00:18:15,902 I went home, and all the way home, 318 00:18:15,931 --> 00:18:17,521 I cried, and I cried, and I cried 319 00:18:17,551 --> 00:18:21,071 and I went, got my son and I held on to him and I just cried. 320 00:18:21,103 --> 00:18:23,453 It was just so much to think about. 321 00:18:23,482 --> 00:18:26,552 Here he was, in that bed, a few hours ago, and now he's died. 322 00:18:27,310 --> 00:18:28,970 We just didn't understand why. 323 00:18:30,413 --> 00:18:32,413 [laughing] 324 00:18:53,172 --> 00:18:54,762 My name is Daniel Carfi. 325 00:18:54,793 --> 00:18:57,033 I was a detective 326 00:18:57,068 --> 00:18:59,098 assigned to the Westchester County Police 327 00:18:59,137 --> 00:19:00,517 in Hawthorne, New York. 328 00:19:00,551 --> 00:19:02,621 And I was called by my supervisor. 329 00:19:02,655 --> 00:19:04,855 He had information that he had received 330 00:19:04,896 --> 00:19:09,276 from Detective Kirk Budnick from the Ramapo Police Department, 331 00:19:09,310 --> 00:19:11,660 that there was a child in the Medical Center. 332 00:19:12,344 --> 00:19:13,794 I was met by a doctor, 333 00:19:13,827 --> 00:19:16,857 and that doctor gave me some background, what had happened. 334 00:19:16,896 --> 00:19:20,996 The child, he had come from another hospital with high sodium levels. 335 00:19:21,034 --> 00:19:22,104 Quite frankly, I'm not a doctor, 336 00:19:22,137 --> 00:19:24,447 I didn't know what does this mean. 337 00:19:24,482 --> 00:19:27,032 And she, basically, explained to me 338 00:19:27,068 --> 00:19:31,138 that she believed it was a good possibility 339 00:19:31,172 --> 00:19:35,522 that it was an outside source causing the sodium levels to be so high. 340 00:19:35,551 --> 00:19:37,621 Basically, the child was poisoned. 341 00:19:48,275 --> 00:19:51,585 I do remember seeing and being around Lacey. 342 00:19:51,620 --> 00:19:54,140 She would sit in the doorway, 343 00:19:54,172 --> 00:19:57,792 and she would watch Garnett play on the playground just a little bit, 344 00:19:57,827 --> 00:20:00,787 and that she would do that in the early mornings 345 00:20:00,827 --> 00:20:02,447 before everybody else got here. 346 00:20:02,482 --> 00:20:04,902 She would let him, kind of, get some of that early morning energy out. 347 00:20:07,379 --> 00:20:09,519 'Cause he was full of energy, just like his mama. 348 00:20:09,551 --> 00:20:12,031 I'm pretty sure she gave him coffee every morning. 349 00:20:12,068 --> 00:20:13,378 He acted like it. 350 00:20:14,586 --> 00:20:17,336 But, I mean, he listened to his mama. 351 00:20:17,379 --> 00:20:21,209 I don't recall ever seeing him 352 00:20:21,241 --> 00:20:24,281 not be just a normal, happy little boy. 353 00:20:42,448 --> 00:20:44,518 [Carfi] Obviously, we start with the mother, right? 354 00:20:44,551 --> 00:20:46,931 She's the closest with the child. 355 00:20:46,965 --> 00:20:48,235 She's a single mom. 356 00:20:48,275 --> 00:20:50,375 She's with him all the time. 357 00:20:50,413 --> 00:20:52,723 When I first talked to Lacey, she had a demeanor 358 00:20:52,758 --> 00:20:54,858 of a caring mother, 359 00:20:54,896 --> 00:20:56,656 and, really, wanted to know 360 00:20:56,689 --> 00:20:58,519 what mistake the hospital made. 361 00:20:58,551 --> 00:21:02,791 My thought, at the time, was maybe he got the wrong medication. 362 00:21:03,724 --> 00:21:05,624 That was my first guess, 363 00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:07,445 the hospital did not handle it right. 364 00:21:07,482 --> 00:21:11,312 They're under investigation for something they did wrong 365 00:21:11,344 --> 00:21:13,034 because this child should still be alive, 366 00:21:13,068 --> 00:21:14,928 like, this was so dramatic. 367 00:21:14,965 --> 00:21:17,585 And traumatic, I mean, it just went so fast. 368 00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:21,620 It seemed like something happened in between the steps. 369 00:21:21,655 --> 00:21:25,275 Like, there was something missing that I didn't know. 370 00:21:25,310 --> 00:21:29,860 [Budnick] We got the list of all the medicines that the doctors had put him on, 371 00:21:29,896 --> 00:21:33,236 and we started looking it up to see what they actually were. 372 00:21:33,275 --> 00:21:36,235 And from all the initial research that we did, 373 00:21:36,275 --> 00:21:39,585 nothing appeared that it could spike a sodium level like that. 374 00:21:39,620 --> 00:21:42,450 So the only way that something could have happened 375 00:21:42,482 --> 00:21:44,522 was it would have had to been introduced into his body. 376 00:21:52,241 --> 00:21:54,621 [Mallory] One day, I was contacted by detectives. 377 00:21:54,655 --> 00:21:57,995 They were just asking me questions about the Lacey. 378 00:21:58,034 --> 00:22:01,004 It really took me for a loop. 379 00:22:01,034 --> 00:22:02,864 I was like, "There is no way. 380 00:22:02,896 --> 00:22:04,066 That is her baby. 381 00:22:04,103 --> 00:22:05,663 Like, she adores him. 382 00:22:05,689 --> 00:22:08,169 She is, like, the best mom. 383 00:22:08,206 --> 00:22:09,616 Like, no way possible." 384 00:22:12,551 --> 00:22:13,761 [chuckles sharply] 385 00:22:14,172 --> 00:22:15,172 Mama. 386 00:22:15,206 --> 00:22:16,276 [Lacey] Where did you go? 387 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:18,340 I'm here, you play with me. 388 00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:19,589 [Lacey] I am playing with you. 389 00:22:19,620 --> 00:22:21,620 Play with me in the bathtub. 390 00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:29,999 [Budnick] When we started to go through her social media, 391 00:22:30,034 --> 00:22:32,074 you could see that Lacey would post 392 00:22:32,103 --> 00:22:35,663 when Garnett was in hospitals or going to doctors. 393 00:22:35,689 --> 00:22:39,139 So it was a road map for us to follow. 394 00:22:39,172 --> 00:22:42,452 What we learned was Garnett, in his first year of life, 395 00:22:42,482 --> 00:22:44,722 had been to the hospital or to a doctor 396 00:22:44,758 --> 00:22:47,688 for serious claims over 24 times. 397 00:22:47,724 --> 00:22:50,694 The things his mother would take him for were severe. 398 00:22:50,724 --> 00:22:53,594 She would complain about seizure activity, 399 00:22:53,620 --> 00:22:56,070 throwing up, not being able to eat. 400 00:22:56,103 --> 00:22:58,933 It just seemed like an awful lot. 401 00:22:58,965 --> 00:23:01,585 [Kat] She had made the statement more than one time 402 00:23:01,620 --> 00:23:03,720 that Garnett wasn't thriving. 403 00:23:03,758 --> 00:23:06,098 He wasn't getting the nutrients he needed. 404 00:23:06,137 --> 00:23:07,237 And I would question her 405 00:23:07,275 --> 00:23:08,615 because there's just certain things 406 00:23:08,655 --> 00:23:10,685 that just doesn't make sense to me. 407 00:23:10,724 --> 00:23:14,004 How is he not getting the nutrients he needs when you breastfed him? 408 00:23:14,034 --> 00:23:15,344 [Lacey] Get a big bite. 409 00:23:18,551 --> 00:23:20,721 [indistinct] 410 00:23:20,758 --> 00:23:23,098 [woman] Good stuff, huh? 411 00:23:23,137 --> 00:23:25,787 [Mallory] I started looking back at a lot of stuff. 412 00:23:25,827 --> 00:23:27,857 And then, I remember that I had a friend 413 00:23:27,896 --> 00:23:29,656 that actually hung out with Garnett, 414 00:23:29,689 --> 00:23:31,069 and he was eating hot dogs. 415 00:23:31,103 --> 00:23:33,523 She was like, "He ate everything and he wanted another one." 416 00:23:33,551 --> 00:23:35,171 She was like, "He was starving." 417 00:23:35,206 --> 00:23:36,446 I was like, "Oh, my goodness." 418 00:23:37,137 --> 00:23:38,617 Butterfly. 419 00:23:38,655 --> 00:23:41,065 [woman] Yeah, butterfly toast. 420 00:23:41,103 --> 00:23:44,413 [Carfi] I had looked at hundreds and hundreds of pictures. 421 00:23:44,448 --> 00:23:47,068 Hundreds of pictures, and many, many videos. 422 00:23:47,103 --> 00:23:50,723 He would be eating cookies or eating ice cream. 423 00:23:50,758 --> 00:23:52,588 Whenever he was eating, 424 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:54,170 you know, I would look at him and say, 425 00:23:54,206 --> 00:23:56,096 "This kid doesn't appear to be sick 426 00:23:56,137 --> 00:23:57,517 or have any trouble eating." 427 00:23:57,551 --> 00:23:59,341 Mommy, hey. 428 00:23:59,379 --> 00:24:01,409 [Carfi] Talking to doctors and nurses, 429 00:24:01,448 --> 00:24:03,408 we learned that the feeding tube 430 00:24:03,448 --> 00:24:04,998 should have really been taken out at some point. 431 00:24:05,551 --> 00:24:07,481 Doctors, nurses, 432 00:24:07,517 --> 00:24:12,897 medical professionals would give Lacey advice that she would just not take. 433 00:24:12,931 --> 00:24:15,001 She would not do what they said. 434 00:24:15,034 --> 00:24:16,794 In fact, sometimes, she would get angry, 435 00:24:16,827 --> 00:24:20,337 shut them down, not talk to them again as a result. 436 00:24:20,379 --> 00:24:25,279 [Budnick] Every time Lacey was told that the feeding tube was an issue, 437 00:24:25,310 --> 00:24:29,830 she would either move away or she would change doctors. 438 00:24:29,862 --> 00:24:31,452 [Carfi] She kept moving around, 439 00:24:31,482 --> 00:24:33,622 eventually, moving out of state. 440 00:24:33,655 --> 00:24:35,655 So she goes from Alabama to Florida, 441 00:24:35,689 --> 00:24:36,899 and, eventually, New York. 442 00:24:36,931 --> 00:24:40,001 Nothing seemed to change by changing states. 443 00:24:40,034 --> 00:24:43,314 Garnett's symptoms were still there. 444 00:24:43,344 --> 00:24:45,524 [Budnick] During that period of time, online, 445 00:24:45,551 --> 00:24:48,621 she would put out there how sick her child was. 446 00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:51,375 She was getting attention from people around the world. 447 00:24:51,413 --> 00:24:53,103 Oh, girl. 448 00:24:53,137 --> 00:24:55,787 She got a lot of attention. 449 00:24:55,827 --> 00:24:58,617 She posts everything and, like, 450 00:24:58,655 --> 00:25:01,685 it's almost like she flirted with oversharing. 451 00:25:01,724 --> 00:25:04,314 Like, why did I have to see 452 00:25:04,344 --> 00:25:06,484 that Garnett was basically dying on Facebook? 453 00:25:07,413 --> 00:25:10,763 Why did anybody need to see that? 454 00:25:10,793 --> 00:25:14,283 I think Lacey craved attention and she craved to be the center of attention. 455 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:20,030 She was a very quiet person, but wanted to be seen. 456 00:25:20,068 --> 00:25:22,928 [Mallory] A lot of people ended up giving her diapers and food 457 00:25:22,965 --> 00:25:27,335 and toys, clothes, they gave her all kinds of things. 458 00:25:27,379 --> 00:25:30,899 I donated money and a lot of people donated money. 459 00:25:30,931 --> 00:25:35,551 So there's a way on Facebook, you can just directly deposit in someone's account. 460 00:25:35,586 --> 00:25:39,026 [Kat] At that time, I didn't know how she got her money, 461 00:25:39,068 --> 00:25:44,168 but she always had money to do whatever she wanted to. 462 00:25:44,206 --> 00:25:46,996 It wasn't, "Oh, I have to wait till my payday," 463 00:25:47,034 --> 00:25:49,484 'cause you know, normal people live paycheck to paycheck. 464 00:25:49,517 --> 00:25:51,617 If she wanted something, she went and got it. 465 00:25:51,655 --> 00:25:55,275 I was friends with her on one of her accounts. 466 00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:59,620 And I didn't know that she had multiple Facebook accounts. 467 00:25:59,655 --> 00:26:02,205 If you're blocked, you don't know it exists. 468 00:26:03,172 --> 00:26:06,972 She kept that a really good secret. 469 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,860 [Budnick] It appeared that she had three different accounts that she would post on. 470 00:26:11,896 --> 00:26:14,476 Some of them would be for family, 471 00:26:14,517 --> 00:26:15,997 some would be for close friends, 472 00:26:16,034 --> 00:26:20,174 and then, others were for just everybody else that would log on. 473 00:26:20,206 --> 00:26:23,786 [Carfi] One of them talked a lot about Garnett's father, 474 00:26:23,827 --> 00:26:25,997 a gentleman named Blake Robinson, 475 00:26:26,034 --> 00:26:28,484 who had died in a car crash. 476 00:26:28,517 --> 00:26:31,587 But we found out that he was still alive. 477 00:26:42,344 --> 00:26:44,314 [Mallory] I remember, like, right after high school 478 00:26:44,344 --> 00:26:46,974 at a football game, I saw her. 479 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,480 And she had a little boy with her, 480 00:26:49,517 --> 00:26:52,207 and I asked her, "Who is this little boy?" 481 00:26:52,241 --> 00:26:53,931 And she said that it was her son. 482 00:26:55,344 --> 00:26:57,694 And I thought, "Wow, I didn't realize that she had a son 483 00:26:57,724 --> 00:26:59,384 'cause that means she would've been pregnant in high school, 484 00:26:59,413 --> 00:27:00,663 and I don't remember that." 485 00:27:00,689 --> 00:27:03,209 And, later, I found out that it wasn't her little boy. 486 00:27:06,724 --> 00:27:09,414 And I remember going back and asking her after she had Garnett. 487 00:27:09,448 --> 00:27:10,998 I was like, "Don't you have two little boys?" 488 00:27:11,034 --> 00:27:13,244 And she was like, "No, I just have him." 489 00:27:15,137 --> 00:27:16,237 It blew me away. 490 00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:19,834 And I just remember a group of girls talking 491 00:27:19,862 --> 00:27:22,452 and one of the girls was like, "You know, that's Lacey, 492 00:27:22,482 --> 00:27:23,902 you don't know what to believe." 493 00:27:34,206 --> 00:27:36,756 [Carfi] There were things that Lacey would post, 494 00:27:36,793 --> 00:27:38,833 claiming that Garnett's father 495 00:27:38,862 --> 00:27:41,762 was a former police officer from Alabama 496 00:27:41,793 --> 00:27:44,723 who perished in a car crash some years earlier. 497 00:27:45,862 --> 00:27:47,692 But early on, I knew I couldn't believe her 498 00:27:47,724 --> 00:27:51,034 when she told the story about Garnett's father, Blake Robinson, 499 00:27:51,068 --> 00:27:53,688 because the picture we found in her social media 500 00:27:53,724 --> 00:27:55,144 was a screenshot of another person 501 00:27:55,172 --> 00:27:57,312 who was not the real Blake Robinson. 502 00:27:57,344 --> 00:27:59,794 Blake Robinson is an actual person. 503 00:28:04,862 --> 00:28:07,242 [Budnick] Blake was alive and well when we spoke with him. 504 00:28:07,275 --> 00:28:12,785 He was actually a deputy in the Sheriff's Department down where she lived. 505 00:28:12,827 --> 00:28:16,027 He had gone out on a date with her twice, 506 00:28:16,068 --> 00:28:18,828 and never had anything to do with her after that. 507 00:28:18,862 --> 00:28:21,072 He had no idea that she was claiming this. 508 00:28:21,103 --> 00:28:22,453 He couldn't even come up with a reason 509 00:28:22,482 --> 00:28:26,102 why she picked him to say he was the father. 510 00:28:29,724 --> 00:28:33,104 [Carfi] Garnett's real father turned out to be Christopher Hill, 511 00:28:33,137 --> 00:28:36,307 who was a neighbor of Lacey 512 00:28:36,344 --> 00:28:38,074 when she lived in Decatur, Alabama 513 00:28:38,103 --> 00:28:39,933 with her sister in an apartment complex. 514 00:28:39,965 --> 00:28:43,205 And there came an opportunity that we spoke to Chris, 515 00:28:43,241 --> 00:28:45,311 and he explained us the whole relationship 516 00:28:45,344 --> 00:28:47,864 that he had with Lacey, how he met her. 517 00:28:47,896 --> 00:28:51,856 And, you know, how he helped her put some baby furniture together 518 00:28:51,896 --> 00:28:54,586 and that's what ignited their relationship. 519 00:28:54,620 --> 00:28:59,000 Chris was very open to being Garnett's father, 520 00:28:59,034 --> 00:29:01,144 wanted to be Garnett's father early on, 521 00:29:01,172 --> 00:29:05,792 and was actually there the day she gave birth and was asked to leave. 522 00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:09,447 And told to stay away and go away or she'd call the police. 523 00:29:09,482 --> 00:29:12,242 So he obeyed her wishes and stayed back. 524 00:29:12,275 --> 00:29:16,065 But a paternity test later on, which Chris agreed to, 525 00:29:16,103 --> 00:29:19,523 it was determined that he was, in fact, the father. 526 00:29:19,551 --> 00:29:23,411 [Kat] I had looked him up on Facebook 'cause I was being nosy. 527 00:29:23,448 --> 00:29:28,138 And the most recent post he had posted was, 528 00:29:28,172 --> 00:29:31,312 "Today is a difficult day, I lost a son I never had." 529 00:29:35,586 --> 00:29:38,786 I can't help but think that Garnett will always be in the back of his mind. 530 00:29:42,103 --> 00:29:44,103 [Mallory] I learned about that from a detective. 531 00:29:44,137 --> 00:29:45,997 And I'm just like, "Whoa." 532 00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:49,034 You know, "This is a lot to take in." 533 00:29:49,068 --> 00:29:51,548 I remember looking back on her Facebook, 534 00:29:51,586 --> 00:29:54,856 and seeing that he had posted and saying, "Our sweet child." 535 00:29:56,172 --> 00:29:58,212 I was in a lot of shock. 536 00:29:58,241 --> 00:30:00,481 So I was thinking... 537 00:30:00,517 --> 00:30:03,547 I still wanted to believe the good in her 538 00:30:03,586 --> 00:30:06,446 but everything she told anyone was a lie. 539 00:30:06,482 --> 00:30:09,932 "So if in the passing days, you see a police car as you drive, 540 00:30:09,965 --> 00:30:14,095 walk up on a dragonfly, perhaps you see an owl one night, 541 00:30:14,137 --> 00:30:16,407 think of us, our journey, and most of all, Blake." 542 00:30:18,551 --> 00:30:19,861 She should have wrote books. 543 00:30:21,965 --> 00:30:23,165 That's a great story. 544 00:30:24,965 --> 00:30:27,445 It's just heart-breaking that she would write something like this 545 00:30:27,482 --> 00:30:28,762 and it never happened. 546 00:30:38,827 --> 00:30:41,997 [Kat] Around that time, I talked to her on the phone. 547 00:30:42,034 --> 00:30:45,384 She told me, she said, "Be careful what you say. 548 00:30:45,413 --> 00:30:49,313 I can't talk about a lot 'cause I'm being watched. 549 00:30:49,344 --> 00:30:51,004 I think they think I did it. 550 00:30:51,034 --> 00:30:53,934 Kathy, I didn't do it. Kathy, I didn't do it." 551 00:30:53,965 --> 00:30:56,895 I said, "Why would they think you did it? 552 00:30:56,931 --> 00:30:58,931 What support do they have? 553 00:30:58,965 --> 00:31:04,475 I mean, they're not just going to blatantly assume and make that accusation. 554 00:31:05,241 --> 00:31:06,901 Lacey, what's going on?" 555 00:31:08,103 --> 00:31:09,793 "I can't talk about it right now. 556 00:31:11,689 --> 00:31:12,899 I love you." 557 00:31:12,931 --> 00:31:14,101 And hung up the phone. 558 00:31:15,379 --> 00:31:17,789 And I remember telling my first husband, 559 00:31:18,827 --> 00:31:19,997 "Something's not right." 560 00:31:22,068 --> 00:31:26,688 [Carfi] It was all part of a bigger picture, a puzzle, if you will. 561 00:31:26,724 --> 00:31:28,144 We knew the why. 562 00:31:28,172 --> 00:31:30,102 Of course, I wanted to know if she did this. 563 00:31:30,137 --> 00:31:33,307 We needed to know how the high sodium came about. 564 00:31:34,206 --> 00:31:36,546 We just needed the smoking gun. 565 00:31:40,206 --> 00:31:41,896 [suspenseful music playing] 566 00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:51,970 This is property of the Fellowship. 567 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,660 When we came here to do the search warrant, 568 00:31:53,689 --> 00:31:58,999 I didn't know what to expect from the people that ran the community. 569 00:31:59,034 --> 00:32:02,244 But they couldn't have been more cooperative with us. 570 00:32:02,275 --> 00:32:04,445 When we walked into the apartment, 571 00:32:05,206 --> 00:32:07,376 the whole house was neat. 572 00:32:08,068 --> 00:32:09,478 Nothing was out of place. 573 00:32:09,517 --> 00:32:10,717 Toys were put away, 574 00:32:10,758 --> 00:32:14,378 almost as if she cleaned it up right before we got there. 575 00:32:14,413 --> 00:32:17,593 That's when we came across, what we looked at, 576 00:32:17,620 --> 00:32:19,410 it looked like a shrine was set up. 577 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,720 There was a picture of Garnett on a table 578 00:32:25,758 --> 00:32:28,828 with these holistic medicines lined up 579 00:32:28,862 --> 00:32:31,622 that Lacey had explained to Detective Carfi 580 00:32:31,655 --> 00:32:33,405 that that's what she was treating him with. 581 00:32:34,862 --> 00:32:37,212 All of the medicines on the list were there, 582 00:32:37,241 --> 00:32:40,411 along with a large container of table salt. 583 00:32:44,413 --> 00:32:46,833 In the middle of the room was a feeding machine 584 00:32:46,862 --> 00:32:50,902 with a feeding bag, some type of formula that was in the bag. 585 00:32:52,482 --> 00:32:53,932 The following morning, 586 00:32:53,965 --> 00:32:57,305 I received a call from someone from the Fellowship 587 00:32:57,344 --> 00:33:01,214 stating that one of Lacey's friends, Valerie, 588 00:33:01,241 --> 00:33:05,311 reported that she received a phone call from Lacey 589 00:33:05,344 --> 00:33:08,554 asking her to come to the apartment, 590 00:33:08,586 --> 00:33:13,096 go in, remove the feeding bag that was on the pump, 591 00:33:13,137 --> 00:33:16,827 and destroy it and not tell anybody. 592 00:33:16,862 --> 00:33:20,452 Those items were brought to the Westchester County Police, 593 00:33:20,482 --> 00:33:23,622 where I brought them to the medical lab to have them tested. 594 00:33:23,655 --> 00:33:25,965 It was determined that in one of the feeding bags, 595 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,830 mixed in with this baby formula 596 00:33:27,862 --> 00:33:31,032 that she was feeding Garnett through his feeding tube, 597 00:33:31,068 --> 00:33:34,098 was the equivalent of 69 salt packets. 598 00:33:45,137 --> 00:33:46,307 [Budnick] We were, at this point... 599 00:33:46,344 --> 00:33:49,974 I, actually, felt that we had enough to arrest her. 600 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,690 And then, at a certain point, I was informed that there was actually a video 601 00:33:55,724 --> 00:34:00,724 in Nyack Hospital that gave a view of Garnett's bed. 602 00:34:01,896 --> 00:34:03,686 I got a copy of that video. 603 00:34:04,482 --> 00:34:06,832 Phew. 604 00:34:06,862 --> 00:34:09,412 I remember sitting at my desk, I was watching the video. 605 00:34:10,482 --> 00:34:12,242 I couldn't believe what I saw. 606 00:34:13,517 --> 00:34:16,787 And I watched it over and over and over. 607 00:34:16,827 --> 00:34:18,927 Slow motion. Stop. Pause. 608 00:34:18,965 --> 00:34:22,095 I called people over, I said, "Look at this, tell me what you see. 609 00:34:22,137 --> 00:34:24,407 I'm not going to tell you what I see, you tell me what you see." 610 00:34:24,448 --> 00:34:25,658 And we all saw the same thing. 611 00:34:40,448 --> 00:34:45,718 [Carfi] The tape, basically, showed Garnett lying sideways across his mother's legs, 612 00:34:45,758 --> 00:34:49,028 and he seems happy and ready to be discharged. 613 00:34:49,068 --> 00:34:52,858 And then, the doctors come in. 614 00:34:52,896 --> 00:34:56,516 They were telling her that, "Garnett looks great, we're going to discharge you." 615 00:34:57,965 --> 00:35:02,065 Soon as those doctors and nurses leave, a few moments later, 616 00:35:02,103 --> 00:35:05,553 Lacey walks by with what appears to be a feeding tube in her hand. 617 00:35:07,965 --> 00:35:11,375 It appeared that in her one hand she has a container. 618 00:35:11,413 --> 00:35:13,663 She brought that into that bathroom 619 00:35:13,689 --> 00:35:15,449 that would connect up to his feeding tube. 620 00:35:18,344 --> 00:35:20,454 [Carfi] She had brought salt to the hospital 621 00:35:20,482 --> 00:35:23,622 and was giving it to him through his feeding tube. 622 00:35:27,103 --> 00:35:30,553 It was just a horrific, horrific scene to watch. 623 00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:34,585 [Kat] Remember the first time I seen, "The video." 624 00:35:35,724 --> 00:35:37,284 And that's when it all set in. 625 00:35:41,275 --> 00:35:44,335 And my exact words were, "Hang her." 626 00:35:47,689 --> 00:35:51,719 "She doesn't deserve to breathe the same oxygen as anybody else." 627 00:35:56,724 --> 00:36:00,764 The very last conversation with Lacey, after Garnett passed, 628 00:36:00,793 --> 00:36:03,003 she said, "Kathy, I was screaming, 629 00:36:03,034 --> 00:36:05,524 'Help my baby, help my baby,' and they wouldn't help him. 630 00:36:05,551 --> 00:36:08,241 The nurses just stood there and looked at him." 631 00:36:08,896 --> 00:36:10,516 It's not even what happened. 632 00:36:11,172 --> 00:36:12,862 It's all on camera. 633 00:36:15,896 --> 00:36:17,966 She said, "Do you believe I killed Garnett?" 634 00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:21,280 And I said, "Yes, I do." 635 00:36:21,310 --> 00:36:22,970 [female news reporter] The medical examiner of Westchester County 636 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,860 says 5-year-old Garnett Spears was murdered. 637 00:36:26,896 --> 00:36:29,476 [male news reporter 2] She spent, roughly, half an hour to 45 minutes 638 00:36:29,517 --> 00:36:30,967 inside the police station 639 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,310 before being led away in an unmarked black car just right of me here. 640 00:36:35,344 --> 00:36:37,554 She's headed to Westchester County Court, 641 00:36:37,586 --> 00:36:39,446 where she is expected to be arraigned. 642 00:36:41,034 --> 00:36:44,414 We were informed by several doctors that there was a chance 643 00:36:44,448 --> 00:36:47,718 that this was a case of Munchausen by proxy. 644 00:37:05,172 --> 00:37:08,552 When I first heard the term, I, obviously, went back to my office 645 00:37:08,586 --> 00:37:12,376 and I researched everything I could on the illness. 646 00:37:12,413 --> 00:37:17,003 And I realized that, most of the articles that I read 647 00:37:17,034 --> 00:37:18,864 had indicators, if you will, 648 00:37:18,896 --> 00:37:21,586 on people who suffer from Munchausen syndrome by proxy. 649 00:37:22,965 --> 00:37:26,475 Lacey Spears met those indicators. 650 00:37:26,517 --> 00:37:27,717 She fit the bill. 651 00:37:31,931 --> 00:37:34,211 -[judge 1] Are you Lacey Spears? -Yes, sir. 652 00:37:34,241 --> 00:37:35,901 [judge 1] Do you waver reading and enter a plea of not guilty? 653 00:37:35,931 --> 00:37:37,281 We waver reading and enter pleas of not guilty 654 00:37:37,310 --> 00:37:38,830 to both counts of the indictment. 655 00:37:38,862 --> 00:37:42,102 Lacey was being charged with murder in a second degree, 656 00:37:42,137 --> 00:37:45,547 and assault in the first degree. 657 00:37:45,586 --> 00:37:49,406 I was the partner and the lead trial attorney for Lacey Spears. 658 00:37:51,206 --> 00:37:53,756 Our client is telling us it wasn't her. 659 00:37:55,862 --> 00:38:00,172 She was 100% innocent of what occurred. 660 00:38:00,206 --> 00:38:02,516 And she never wavered from that position. 661 00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:08,662 So the only rational response to that is, "We're going to go to trial." 662 00:38:12,862 --> 00:38:15,762 [Riebling] Lacey took Garnett to Nyack Hospital for medical care. 663 00:38:15,793 --> 00:38:16,903 Lacey shows us 664 00:38:18,206 --> 00:38:19,476 how much she loved Garnett. 665 00:38:20,931 --> 00:38:23,171 How much he cared for him. 666 00:38:23,206 --> 00:38:25,926 Most importantly, the very, very deep regard 667 00:38:25,965 --> 00:38:27,855 that she had for the value of his life. 668 00:38:29,931 --> 00:38:33,171 [Carfi] I felt like somebody has to stand up for Garnett. 669 00:38:33,206 --> 00:38:36,406 Somebody has to get justice for Garnett 670 00:38:36,448 --> 00:38:38,858 somehow, someway, in this case. 671 00:38:42,896 --> 00:38:47,856 We explained to the jury about the sodium that was found in the feeding bag. 672 00:38:50,586 --> 00:38:53,656 And we played the video. 673 00:38:53,689 --> 00:39:00,549 I thought that video evidence would seal any jury's thoughts on giving a guilty verdict. 674 00:39:00,586 --> 00:39:03,926 [judge 2] Members of the jury answering through your foreperson... 675 00:39:03,965 --> 00:39:07,335 She was able to fool a lot of people for a long time. 676 00:39:07,379 --> 00:39:11,549 [judge 2] ...How say you as to count one murder in the second degree? 677 00:39:11,586 --> 00:39:13,476 Not guilty or guilty? 678 00:39:13,517 --> 00:39:15,307 But you could fool all the people. 679 00:39:16,482 --> 00:39:18,282 [foreperson] Guilty. 680 00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:19,900 [judge 2] Is this verdict unanimous? 681 00:39:19,931 --> 00:39:21,071 [foreperson] Yes. 682 00:39:32,896 --> 00:39:35,096 [laughs] Peekaboo! 683 00:39:37,758 --> 00:39:40,688 My opinion of Lacey Spears is that she is pure evil. 684 00:39:42,827 --> 00:39:45,657 What led her to do it? I don't know. 685 00:39:45,689 --> 00:39:50,859 We did talk to other investigators who've done Munchausen by proxy cases. 686 00:39:50,896 --> 00:39:54,856 A lot of them led us to believe that once a child is old enough 687 00:39:54,896 --> 00:39:59,026 to explain to other people what's happening to them, 688 00:39:59,068 --> 00:40:03,338 they're really not useful to their abuser. 689 00:40:03,379 --> 00:40:05,589 And a lot of times, that's when the child will be killed. 690 00:40:06,344 --> 00:40:07,794 Can you say your ABCs. 691 00:40:07,827 --> 00:40:10,967 A, B, C, C, C. [laughs] 692 00:40:11,931 --> 00:40:13,931 [Kat] My heart won't let me believe 693 00:40:15,068 --> 00:40:16,718 that Lacey wanted to kill him. 694 00:40:18,551 --> 00:40:20,481 I'll never 695 00:40:20,517 --> 00:40:24,687 believe that she wanted to intentionally take his life. 696 00:40:26,310 --> 00:40:28,410 I will spend the rest of my life 697 00:40:29,413 --> 00:40:30,723 feeling and knowing 698 00:40:32,379 --> 00:40:36,069 that she made him sick because she enjoyed the attention. 699 00:40:37,793 --> 00:40:40,793 She bragged about it too much to not enjoy it. 700 00:40:40,827 --> 00:40:43,137 I think in her mind, she thought, 701 00:40:43,172 --> 00:40:45,452 if she made him just a little sicker, 702 00:40:45,482 --> 00:40:48,692 enough to get a spike in that sodium, 703 00:40:48,724 --> 00:40:50,484 that his stay would be continued. 704 00:40:51,137 --> 00:40:52,477 But it was too much. 705 00:40:56,827 --> 00:40:58,097 How do you do that? 706 00:41:00,206 --> 00:41:02,166 I mean, he was just the sweetest little boy. 707 00:41:04,620 --> 00:41:08,520 [Mallory] Garnett was such a happy kid, and he was loved. 708 00:41:13,241 --> 00:41:14,521 He was just full of life, 709 00:41:14,551 --> 00:41:17,101 and when you looked at his picture, you felt full of life. 710 00:41:19,586 --> 00:41:22,026 Ooh, oh, my goodness, okay. 711 00:41:26,586 --> 00:41:28,586 There's a lot of feelings I haven't felt in a long time. 712 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:30,100 [laughs] No, it's okay. 713 00:41:30,137 --> 00:41:32,207 This is for Garnett. This is for Garnett. 714 00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:37,377 It's so emotional for me. 715 00:41:38,655 --> 00:41:41,515 It's also making me angry. 716 00:41:42,689 --> 00:41:44,449 In that moment, he needed someone. 717 00:41:45,068 --> 00:41:46,208 How scared he must be. 718 00:41:46,241 --> 00:41:47,591 Like that's the thing that hit me, 719 00:41:47,620 --> 00:41:49,030 how scared he must be. 720 00:41:50,827 --> 00:41:54,237 He fought to survive, when in reality, 721 00:41:54,275 --> 00:41:56,825 he fought to survive from what she was doing to him 722 00:41:56,862 --> 00:41:57,862 from the beginning. 723 00:41:58,965 --> 00:42:00,785 I just don't know how a parent could do that. 55349

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