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It's about the cost of genius. 5 00:00:16,083 --> 00:00:19,666 [woman 1] It's a story about how you survive in a world 6 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:23,125 when you have a very specific gift that makes you harder to understand. 7 00:00:23,208 --> 00:00:26,500 I think she looks to chess as very much an escape. 8 00:00:26,583 --> 00:00:28,125 [man 2] Although it tells that story 9 00:00:28,208 --> 00:00:31,541 about a child genius working up to a world level, 10 00:00:31,625 --> 00:00:33,916 it's actually still more about her demons. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 [music intensifies] 12 00:00:39,291 --> 00:00:42,250 That's right, I can still… Can I still move another piece? 13 00:00:42,333 --> 00:00:45,083 -[man 3] No, it's touch-move. -[all laughing] 14 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:48,208 {\an8}Scott sent me the book to read before I met him, 15 00:00:48,291 --> 00:00:50,916 and I devoured the book in about an hour. 16 00:00:51,416 --> 00:00:54,875 I fell in love with Beth immediately, and there was a really strong kinship. 17 00:00:54,958 --> 00:00:59,083 [man 1] This character is, you know, essentially, her own antagonist, 18 00:00:59,166 --> 00:01:01,875 {\an8}and I was fascinated. I'd never read a character like this. 19 00:01:01,958 --> 00:01:04,875 Somebody who is so brilliant and so self-destructive, 20 00:01:04,958 --> 00:01:09,125 and in a world that she was already kind of not a part of. 21 00:01:09,208 --> 00:01:11,750 -Are you sure you wanna do this? -I'm sure. 22 00:01:11,833 --> 00:01:13,541 We don't have a women's section. 23 00:01:14,541 --> 00:01:17,916 {\an8}Back in the 1950s, there were  very few females turning to chess. 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,708 {\an8}They weren't given the opportunities. 25 00:01:19,791 --> 00:01:22,958 Beth trying to make her way in a male-dominated discipline and world 26 00:01:23,041 --> 00:01:25,125 is something that's quite distinctive and unusual. 27 00:01:25,208 --> 00:01:29,958 {\an8}Tevis was writing with an understanding of the next century, almost. 28 00:01:30,041 --> 00:01:31,166 It's quite brilliant. 29 00:01:31,250 --> 00:01:32,083 How old are you? 30 00:01:33,125 --> 00:01:35,625 Never mind. Don't answer that. It'll just depress me. 31 00:01:35,708 --> 00:01:37,875 -Mm. I'm 36. -[chuckles] 32 00:01:37,958 --> 00:01:41,125 She's so centered in how intelligent she is 33 00:01:41,208 --> 00:01:45,041 that she doesn't necessarily think of herself as a woman first, 34 00:01:45,125 --> 00:01:47,958 and I do think that there is something to that, 35 00:01:48,041 --> 00:01:51,875 because you're experiencing the '60s through her 36 00:01:51,958 --> 00:01:55,083 in the way that she just automatically assumes that she is equal. 37 00:01:55,666 --> 00:01:56,958 Am I good enough now? 38 00:01:57,583 --> 00:01:59,375 To tell you the truth of it, child… 39 00:02:01,250 --> 00:02:02,416 you're astounding. 40 00:02:04,625 --> 00:02:05,666 [crew 1] Mark-up. 41 00:02:05,750 --> 00:02:07,250 [Frank] And action! 42 00:02:07,333 --> 00:02:08,791 Almost ten years ago, 43 00:02:08,875 --> 00:02:12,833 Bill Horberg had brought up the book to me as something that I might wanna do. 44 00:02:12,916 --> 00:02:15,333 We briefly flirted with doing it as a feature, 45 00:02:15,416 --> 00:02:17,958 and Allan Scott had written quite a nice script, 46 00:02:18,041 --> 00:02:19,708 and nothing ever came of it. 47 00:02:19,791 --> 00:02:22,500 It was very hard to get a movie like that made at the time. 48 00:02:23,041 --> 00:02:26,500 Then, right after I finished Godless, I had this revelation, 49 00:02:26,583 --> 00:02:27,833 and I said to him, 50 00:02:27,916 --> 00:02:29,875 "What about The Queen's Gambit as a miniseries?" 51 00:02:30,458 --> 00:02:36,375 The overriding interest I've always had is to make it powerfully emotional. 52 00:02:36,458 --> 00:02:38,333 And I think when you extend something, 53 00:02:38,416 --> 00:02:40,750 you get the time to follow all kinds of paths 54 00:02:40,833 --> 00:02:42,458 and all kinds of themes. 55 00:02:42,541 --> 00:02:44,500 What I really wanted to focus on, 56 00:02:44,583 --> 00:02:47,500 and the challenge in turning it into a miniseries, for me, 57 00:02:47,583 --> 00:02:52,208 was making sure that what you're really invested in is her. 58 00:02:52,291 --> 00:02:54,750 Someday, you're gonna be all alone, 59 00:02:55,541 --> 00:02:58,333 so you need to figure out how to take care of yourself. 60 00:02:58,416 --> 00:03:02,416 [Taylor-Joy] She's come from a home life, and just a lot in life, 61 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:05,750 that has left her feeling very unstable. 62 00:03:05,833 --> 00:03:07,875 She doesn't really know where she's going to end up. 63 00:03:08,458 --> 00:03:09,791 What's that game called? 64 00:03:09,875 --> 00:03:11,625 It's called chess. 65 00:03:12,541 --> 00:03:13,875 Will you teach me? 66 00:03:13,958 --> 00:03:17,875 I think Beth's first true connection 67 00:03:17,958 --> 00:03:19,375 is with Mr. Shaibel. 68 00:03:19,458 --> 00:03:22,625 It's with somebody who she feels understands 69 00:03:22,708 --> 00:03:25,333 not only her gift, but how her brain works. 70 00:03:25,416 --> 00:03:27,583 Also, somebody who can tell her "no." 71 00:03:27,666 --> 00:03:30,916 -You have resigned the game. -You didn't tell me that in the rules. 72 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,041 It's not a rule. 73 00:03:32,625 --> 00:03:33,791 It's sportsmanship. 74 00:03:34,291 --> 00:03:37,166 And then I think she's got a wonderful friendship with Jolene, 75 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:39,958 and that comes from a place of both understanding 76 00:03:40,041 --> 00:03:43,583 that they're very different, and yet, have come from the exact same place. 77 00:03:44,208 --> 00:03:45,750 Most of us are lifers. 78 00:03:46,583 --> 00:03:48,416 Been here a long time. 79 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:50,708 {\an8}I would say she's kind of like a mother to Beth, 80 00:03:50,791 --> 00:03:52,458 {\an8}in her own little way. 81 00:03:52,541 --> 00:03:56,750 They're not adopted for the majority of their lives, 82 00:03:56,833 --> 00:03:59,291 so they kind of do need to depend on each other in that place. 83 00:04:00,166 --> 00:04:01,791 [man 4] Green's to even your disposition. 84 00:04:01,875 --> 00:04:04,833 Orange and brown's for building a strong body. Take 'em both. 85 00:04:04,916 --> 00:04:09,083 In the early '60s, late '50s, it was very common to give… 86 00:04:09,166 --> 00:04:11,250 children in orphanages tranquilizers 87 00:04:11,333 --> 00:04:13,250 to make them easier to handle. 88 00:04:13,833 --> 00:04:17,791 So, yeah, she becomes addicted to tranquilizers 89 00:04:17,875 --> 00:04:20,250 and sedatives when she's nine. 90 00:04:20,333 --> 00:04:23,791 Well, the trick with addiction, with drinking or drugs or anything, 91 00:04:23,875 --> 00:04:27,458 is making sure that you empathize with the character, 92 00:04:27,541 --> 00:04:29,708 and still tell a compelling story. 93 00:04:32,333 --> 00:04:35,916 Sleight of hand, for me, was humor sometimes. 94 00:04:36,583 --> 00:04:37,541 [pills clattering] 95 00:04:37,625 --> 00:04:40,416 There's a long sequence where she steals the pills, 96 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:42,416 and that was as funny as it is harrowing. 97 00:04:43,083 --> 00:04:44,166 Elizabeth! 98 00:04:45,333 --> 00:04:46,333 [crash] 99 00:04:49,166 --> 00:04:51,875 As she gets older, she forms many addictions. 100 00:04:52,458 --> 00:04:55,375 She discovers alcohol when she's about 15. 101 00:04:55,458 --> 00:04:57,083 [coughs] It's good. 102 00:04:57,166 --> 00:04:58,958 And consummates that relationship. 103 00:04:59,041 --> 00:05:01,416 ['60s guitar music playing] 104 00:05:02,833 --> 00:05:06,666 Anybody who's dealing with problems of addiction is their own worst enemy. 105 00:05:07,291 --> 00:05:10,291 She keeps self-destructing along the way. 106 00:05:10,375 --> 00:05:11,291 [grunts] 107 00:05:11,375 --> 00:05:14,500 There's a moment when she's been on a particularly tough bender, 108 00:05:15,083 --> 00:05:17,625 and she meets the first person that she ever played, 109 00:05:17,708 --> 00:05:19,750 who's another girl called Annette Packer. 110 00:05:19,833 --> 00:05:23,208 I-- I knew you were going places, and that meant something to me. 111 00:05:24,125 --> 00:05:27,291 That whole exchange was really, really tricky and rough to do, 112 00:05:27,375 --> 00:05:32,041 because I just had to be in this state of "everything is falling apart." 113 00:05:32,125 --> 00:05:35,083 "And you looked up to me, and now I have to carry that shame." 114 00:05:35,166 --> 00:05:37,458 Like, she was just-- She was an angry bird. 115 00:05:37,541 --> 00:05:38,916 I'm worried about you. 116 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:41,166 What on earth for? [scoffs] 117 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:43,583 For me, the whole story is organized around that. 118 00:05:43,666 --> 00:05:46,833 Is she gonna lose hold of herself, or is she gonna be able to make it? 119 00:05:46,916 --> 00:05:50,583 "She shows the assurance of a player twice her age." 120 00:05:53,375 --> 00:05:55,625 That's national recognition, dear. 121 00:05:55,708 --> 00:05:57,041 She's also addicted to winning. 122 00:05:57,125 --> 00:05:59,041 [thrilling music playing] 123 00:06:01,375 --> 00:06:04,250 She's addicted to feeling like she is in control. 124 00:06:04,333 --> 00:06:07,708 Chess is the one thing she feels like she can control, 125 00:06:07,791 --> 00:06:09,666 that, on that board, she's in charge. 126 00:06:09,750 --> 00:06:13,208 Whenever she's moving those pieces around, she's at home. 127 00:06:13,875 --> 00:06:14,708 I'll win. 128 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:17,375 I have every confidence. 129 00:06:17,458 --> 00:06:19,750 You do feel for the relationship 130 00:06:19,833 --> 00:06:22,541 that both Mrs. Wheatley and Beth have together. 131 00:06:22,625 --> 00:06:26,291 And Mari played her with deep empathy, and, I think, sympathy. 132 00:06:26,375 --> 00:06:29,125 For the role of Mrs. Wheatley, I had been telling Bill Horberg 133 00:06:29,208 --> 00:06:31,250 that it's someone like Marielle Heller, 134 00:06:31,333 --> 00:06:33,750 and Bill said to me, "Why don't you just cast her?" 135 00:06:34,916 --> 00:06:37,000 And as you can see, she's extraordinary. 136 00:06:37,583 --> 00:06:39,375 Things are beginning to happen. 137 00:06:41,625 --> 00:06:45,583 Beth is very obsessive, full stop. 138 00:06:45,666 --> 00:06:49,083 Like, I think that is just something that is intrinsic to her. 139 00:06:49,166 --> 00:06:51,666 Harry, it'll be check once the pawn moves and the knight trades. 140 00:06:52,333 --> 00:06:54,208 -Can't you see that? -No, I can't. 141 00:06:54,291 --> 00:06:56,666 -I can't find it that fast. -Well, wish you could. 142 00:06:56,750 --> 00:06:59,458 When your brain works that quickly, it can drive you a bit mad. 143 00:06:59,541 --> 00:07:03,875 But I also think that she is aware that her gift makes her special. 144 00:07:03,958 --> 00:07:08,166 [woman 2] Sometimes, people find patterns or meaning where there aren't any. 145 00:07:08,250 --> 00:07:09,791 What does that have to do with me? 146 00:07:09,875 --> 00:07:12,166 Well, creativity and psychosis often go hand in hand. 147 00:07:12,250 --> 00:07:13,458 [camera clicks] 148 00:07:13,541 --> 00:07:16,541 I do think she's, like, consistently worried that she's a bit crazy. 149 00:07:16,625 --> 00:07:19,416 {\an8}Beth has visions of seeing a chess board on the ceiling. 150 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:20,500 This is in the book. 151 00:07:20,583 --> 00:07:21,916 She looks up to the ceiling 152 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,291 and imagines the position and the places of the pieces. 153 00:07:25,375 --> 00:07:29,041 Did you ever go over games in your head? I mean, play all the way through 'em? 154 00:07:29,875 --> 00:07:30,791 Doesn't everybody? 155 00:07:30,875 --> 00:07:32,750 The person that she feels closest to, 156 00:07:32,833 --> 00:07:36,166 I think, in terms of the way that her brain works, is actually Benny. 157 00:07:36,250 --> 00:07:38,291 {\an8}There's a little bit of a reflection in each other, 158 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:39,916 {\an8}even though they're vastly different. 159 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,916 But I think he enjoys getting into mind games, 160 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,708 into other people's heads, and he sees that in Beth. 161 00:07:45,791 --> 00:07:47,875 -I don't know if I'm good enough. -You're the best. 162 00:07:47,958 --> 00:07:51,000 His reassurance kind of makes her feel a bit more calm. 163 00:07:51,083 --> 00:07:54,333 But I do think that she's juggling a very fine line of, like, 164 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,291 "Am I insane or am I a genius?" 165 00:07:58,375 --> 00:08:00,333 And I've been watching your games, you… 166 00:08:01,250 --> 00:08:02,625 You attack like Alekhine. 167 00:08:02,708 --> 00:08:03,875 You can reach for your best, 168 00:08:03,958 --> 00:08:06,500 but it only really matters if other people see it as well. 169 00:08:06,583 --> 00:08:09,666 And I think Benny appreciates Beth's talent when he sees it 170 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:11,666 and finds that attractive from the get-go. 171 00:08:17,416 --> 00:08:18,708 [Frank] And action! 172 00:08:20,041 --> 00:08:24,291 [Frank] To make chess cinematic is… is impossible. 173 00:08:25,291 --> 00:08:29,375 And I realized I want the chess that we do show to be accurate enough, 174 00:08:29,458 --> 00:08:33,708 but I really am focusing on the stakes around the games 175 00:08:33,791 --> 00:08:35,333 and the players themselves. 176 00:08:35,416 --> 00:08:38,208 Beth Harmon, in particular, and the idea, for me, 177 00:08:38,291 --> 00:08:40,125 visually, was to get inside her. 178 00:08:40,625 --> 00:08:44,041 I found the strongest points is just being on people's faces and their reaction. 179 00:08:44,125 --> 00:08:47,375 Even if you don't understand chess, you know the seriousness 180 00:08:47,458 --> 00:08:49,583 and the drama that they're going through. 181 00:08:49,666 --> 00:08:51,375 -[chess clock ticking] -I resign. 182 00:08:54,750 --> 00:08:55,666 [crew 2] Cut! 183 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:57,375 -[crew 3] Cutting! -[crew 4] And one. 184 00:08:57,458 --> 00:09:01,666 Steven Meizler is quite good at shaping just very little light, 185 00:09:01,750 --> 00:09:03,083 and very natural light, 186 00:09:03,166 --> 00:09:06,250 and-and finding little spots that create its own drama. 187 00:09:06,875 --> 00:09:07,791 Sweet dreams. 188 00:09:10,416 --> 00:09:13,500 The show really shifts along with Beth's perspective. 189 00:09:13,583 --> 00:09:16,708 Every time I got to go onto a new set, 190 00:09:16,791 --> 00:09:20,333 I was always completely blown away by the way that it looked. 191 00:09:20,416 --> 00:09:22,958 [thrilling orchestral music playing] 192 00:09:24,958 --> 00:09:27,125 [Frank] Uli Hanisch is a genius. 193 00:09:27,208 --> 00:09:29,625 I came to Berlin because I wanted to work with him. 194 00:09:29,708 --> 00:09:32,208 But we've shot Mexico City here, and Las Vegas, 195 00:09:32,291 --> 00:09:35,875 and Paris, Russia, pieces of New York, and Lexington, Kentucky. 196 00:09:36,625 --> 00:09:37,458 Well, now. 197 00:09:38,125 --> 00:09:39,250 [chuckles] 198 00:09:39,333 --> 00:09:43,250 {\an8}What Beth does is traveling, uh, and playing chess at tournaments, 199 00:09:43,333 --> 00:09:48,458 and so we have, like, hotel rooms, airplanes, hotel lobbies, restaurants, 200 00:09:48,541 --> 00:09:50,916 ballroom kind of situation for each tournament. 201 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,375 So, it was our target to, um-- 202 00:09:53,458 --> 00:09:55,583 -To repeat, but… [laughs] -To repeat. 203 00:09:55,666 --> 00:09:57,083 -…make it different. -Yeah, exactly. 204 00:09:57,166 --> 00:10:01,333 I asked for a pleasant room, and I believe they gave me one. 205 00:10:01,416 --> 00:10:04,083 -[warm orchestral music playing] -[Mrs. Wheatley laughs] 206 00:10:04,166 --> 00:10:06,791 This here is a pretty special location in Berlin. 207 00:10:06,875 --> 00:10:10,250 It's the Haus Cumberland, and we turned it into a hotel in Paris. 208 00:10:10,333 --> 00:10:12,791 What will you have, then, for your one drink? 209 00:10:12,875 --> 00:10:15,375 Must be special if it is your only one. 210 00:10:15,458 --> 00:10:17,041 -[crew 5] Awesome. -[crew 6] That's a cut. 211 00:10:17,125 --> 00:10:20,958 [Frank] For me, every set I would walk on would be a fantastic place to shoot. 212 00:10:21,041 --> 00:10:22,541 The whole crew would come on the set, 213 00:10:22,625 --> 00:10:27,041 and you would hear 50 people, 100 people oohing and aahing about these locations. 214 00:10:29,458 --> 00:10:33,541 Benny's apartment was interesting because we shot the exterior in Toronto. 215 00:10:33,625 --> 00:10:34,458 [light switch clicks] 216 00:10:34,541 --> 00:10:38,291 [Frank] And then Uli designed this basement apartment that was amazing, 217 00:10:38,375 --> 00:10:41,416 and, right away, I started changing the scene 218 00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:44,083 because of so many good things in the set. 219 00:10:44,166 --> 00:10:46,666 -…what you thought. -[Taylor-Joy] I love it. It's so good. 220 00:10:46,750 --> 00:10:50,000 The cinematography, the costumes, the production design, 221 00:10:50,083 --> 00:10:51,916 they're all, for me, part of the same thing. 222 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,750 We spend a lot of time talking about where Beth is at in the story. 223 00:10:56,833 --> 00:10:59,291 We had so much fun coming up with the look for this 224 00:10:59,375 --> 00:11:01,750 because, again, we got to grow up with Beth. 225 00:11:01,833 --> 00:11:05,958 {\an8}When I first read the script, I had in my mind that Beth was a redhead. 226 00:11:06,041 --> 00:11:08,708 Funny enough, Anya also felt this. 227 00:11:08,791 --> 00:11:12,000 [Taylor-Joy] When I first read it, I was like, "She needs to have red hair, 228 00:11:12,083 --> 00:11:14,375 because I want her to be completely identifiable, 229 00:11:14,458 --> 00:11:15,833 even if she doesn't want to be," 230 00:11:15,916 --> 00:11:19,000 and he had thought the exact same thing, so we just started off on a good foot. 231 00:11:20,208 --> 00:11:21,791 It was all wigs. I couldn't-- 232 00:11:21,875 --> 00:11:24,125 I was very happy to dye my hair, but I just couldn't… 233 00:11:24,208 --> 00:11:28,541 There were days when we were going between five different ages in a day, 234 00:11:28,625 --> 00:11:31,083 and that's just not possible with your own hair. 235 00:11:31,166 --> 00:11:34,250 So, we had baby Beth, we had sexy kitten, and we had glamour-puss. 236 00:11:34,333 --> 00:11:37,083 To sell the age, the younger, the less makeup, 237 00:11:37,166 --> 00:11:40,000 and then you slowly add very, very small adjustments 238 00:11:40,083 --> 00:11:41,833 until you start seeing her older. 239 00:11:41,916 --> 00:11:44,000 She basically gets more of these eyelashes. 240 00:11:44,083 --> 00:11:45,791 So, her eyes become sexier. 241 00:11:45,875 --> 00:11:47,000 Wow. 242 00:11:47,916 --> 00:11:48,750 Thanks. 243 00:11:49,250 --> 00:11:52,416 Beth has a thing for flare, as you can see in the show. 244 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:54,791 She, um… She likes the finer things in life. 245 00:11:54,875 --> 00:11:56,791 She-- She starts to really, really like clothes. 246 00:11:56,875 --> 00:12:00,916 With the costume designer, with Gabriele, her wardrobe is just amazing. 247 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,291 She would have a pallet book and all of the dresses, 248 00:12:04,375 --> 00:12:06,458 and the different wardrobe that Beth would be wearing. 249 00:12:06,541 --> 00:12:08,750 But more than that, we'd spend a lot of time 250 00:12:09,250 --> 00:12:11,416 talking about where Beth is at in the story. 251 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,958 {\an8}In the beginning, Beth is always determined by other people, 252 00:12:15,041 --> 00:12:18,583 {\an8}by her mother or dresses in the orphanage, 253 00:12:18,666 --> 00:12:23,166 and later on, she is alone, and she discovers more her body. 254 00:12:23,250 --> 00:12:25,375 She has power being feminine. 255 00:12:27,208 --> 00:12:30,250 [Frank] As we go forward, you know, she's more and more glamorous. 256 00:12:30,333 --> 00:12:33,041 There's a point where she dresses up like a pop musician 257 00:12:33,125 --> 00:12:35,916 that she sees on TV for a brief period of time. 258 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,166 She experienced that searching for cool is difficult 259 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:42,000 because the cool doesn't exist, 260 00:12:42,083 --> 00:12:46,000 and her search for cool is, actually, her search for herself. 261 00:12:47,333 --> 00:12:48,291 [Frank] At the very end, 262 00:12:48,375 --> 00:12:51,583 when she's kind of finally comfortable in the world of chess, 263 00:12:51,666 --> 00:12:54,666 Gabriele found this beautiful, long, white coat, 264 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:56,833 with this white hat from Moscow, 265 00:12:56,916 --> 00:12:59,166 and you realize she looks like the white queen. 266 00:13:05,166 --> 00:13:07,583 [Taylor-Joy] What's fascinating about watching her grow up is… 267 00:13:07,666 --> 00:13:10,541 she puts on all of these different personas. 268 00:13:10,625 --> 00:13:13,333 Who the hell are you? 269 00:13:13,416 --> 00:13:16,083 It is incredibly sad, because it's basically just saying 270 00:13:16,166 --> 00:13:18,750 that she just doesn't feel like she's enough without them. 271 00:13:18,833 --> 00:13:20,208 You are very beautiful. 272 00:13:21,916 --> 00:13:24,375 -I don't see myself that way. -Then you are blind. 273 00:13:24,458 --> 00:13:27,083 It's not a physical loneliness that she's suffering from. 274 00:13:27,166 --> 00:13:29,500 It's an emotional and intellectual one. 275 00:13:29,583 --> 00:13:33,458 I think this is why the miniseries is becoming more prominent, 276 00:13:33,541 --> 00:13:37,416 because you can explore these richer, more complex stories. 277 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:41,458 Having the opportunity to spend time with Beth in this way, 278 00:13:41,541 --> 00:13:44,125 and not just see all of the wins, but all of the hard work 279 00:13:44,208 --> 00:13:47,041 with the sacrifices that it takes to get to the wins. 280 00:13:47,541 --> 00:13:51,000 I think, hopefully, that just builds a lot of empathy for somebody who… 281 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,333 I, selfishly, really, really care about. 282 00:13:53,416 --> 00:13:55,791 -[crowd cheering] -[orchestral music playing] 26360

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