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[people chanting]
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[narrator] The
early 1980s.
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[reporter]12 million people
are unemployed in our country,
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1.3 million of
them in California,
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more than 150,000 right here
in the Bay Area,
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like this
self-styled Reaganville
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near the railroad tracks
in Berkeley.
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Those are the conditions for
tough times and real
struggle.
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[Regan] I regret to say...
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that we're in the worst
economic mess since
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the Great Depression.
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[upbeat music plays]
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[narrator] The San
Francisco Bay Area,
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located on the Western edge
of the continental United
States,
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has a long history
of supporting new music
and free expression,
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from jazz
experimentation,
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to beat poetry,
to rock and roll.
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By 1980, with the American
economy in recession,
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a new group of teenagers
came of age,
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and they wanted
a new music.
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Something faster,
something heavier,
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something that mirrored
their own lives and not
the previous generations.
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From far away Europe,
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heavy metal sounds were
slowly rippling westward,
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carried by word of mouth,
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a few rare,
imported records,
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some bootleg
cassette tapes,
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and music magazines.
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But California was too
far away for most of
these bands to tour here.
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So the young music fans
of the Bay Area
did what we do best.
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We didn't wait for
the music we wanted.
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We created our own.
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[interviewer] Are we rolling?
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Right, I just want
to say one thing first:
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Posers must die!
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We were out of our minds.
We were kind of crazy.
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We were just kids.
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Kids run amok.
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It was scary, and it was dark.
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It's this outlet for angst.
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I'm Alex Skolnick,
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born and raised
in Berkeley, California.
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Hey, I'm James Hetfield
from Metallica.
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This is the music you don't
want your parents to hear.
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Gary Holt.
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David Ellefson,
bassist for Megadeth.
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I don't need to say my name.
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Everybody watching
this knows who I am. [laughs]
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We were doing it
for chicks and beer,
and I didn't drink.
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My name's Chuck Billy.
I grew up in Dublin, California,
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and the pits were
violent as hell.
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Mark Osegueda from
the San Francisco Bay Area.
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Phil Demmel
from Dublin, California.
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The volume, the craziness,
was epic.
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Wow, we've got to do
more of this.
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Robb Flynn, Oakland, California.
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My name's Rick Hunolt.
I played guitar for Exodus.
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People have passion
for the metal.
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There's no distinction between
the bands and the fans.
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We called it,
"The Land Of Misfit Toys."
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People in our scene,
we felt invincible.
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It was about survival.
It was like... Ah!
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Exodus had the
destruction recipe. [laughs]
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If Exodus was playing,
we were there.
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[whispers]
That's Paul Baloff.
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Kirk came up with a name,
and we were just like, wow.
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What was the question again?
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My name is Lars Ulrich,
and I'm from Denmark.
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Tom Araya. Fucking Slayer.
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Singer and bass player
for Slayer.
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I got goosebumps talking about
it right now, man.
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My name is Paul Bostaph.
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Larry Lalonde,
El Sereno, California.
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Charlie Benante,
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and I'm from
the Bronx, New York.
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Dave Lombardo,
South East, L.A.
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There was an aura of
watching history happen.
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East Bay guys.
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They played before us,
and that was kind of a mistake.
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I am Robert Trujillo.
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I'm from Santa Monica,
California.
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There goes that guy who was
in Metallica. What's he up to?
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It wasn't as exciting as
you thought it would be, was it?
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[theme music plays]
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[Kirk Hammett]
We were far away from the city.
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We were isolated.
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There was nothing to do.
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All we had was music, you know?
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It was a pilgrimage.
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We would mow a few lawns,
save a few bucks,
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take the Alameda across
the county bus transit
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to the BART station,
take BART to Berkeley,
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and walk up to Telegraph.
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Instantly we went to all
the hard rock stuff,
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you know, Aerosmith,
Deep Purple, Black Sabbath,
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Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy.
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Anything and everything that was
around that had an edge,
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that was loud and energetic,
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I just went to.
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Kirk was the first guy
to ever play me, like,
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Uli Roth-era Scorpions,
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and that was the first day
we ever hung out.
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And that was when we met
at his house to go see
Ted Nugent and the Scorpions.
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But there was other stuff
coming out of
England and Germany
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that nobody was really
was partial to on a large scale,
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other than the kids that I knew.
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The kids of my age, uh,
were listening to disco.
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They were listening to pop,
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and I just wasn't really
interested in that.
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We all went to
the same record stores.
There was very few.
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There was something that
I just wasn't getting enough of
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until I heard this
one band called UFO.
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They had the heaviness.
They had the intensity.
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They had the energy.
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They had the musicianship.
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They had a guitar player
that was sent from heaven
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named Michael Schenker.
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Me and John Marshall
became obsessed with UFO.
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[heavy metal music plays]
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[audience applause]
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[Lars Ulrich]
I was hanging out up in Berkeley
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in April or May of 1980,
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and I was walking along
Telegraph Avenue.
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[Erik Lannon]
You'd see him down on Telegraph
and Berkeley all the time.
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[Lars Ulrich] As I was walking,
I heard a Motorhead song.
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[Erik] You could hear
him coming from a block
or two away, you know?
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[Lars] A total character.
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There was this
crazy skinny tall dude.
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[Erik]
Denim vest on, long hair,
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big Thin Lizzy Chinatown patch
on his back,
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and he was playing Motorhead
on his boombox.
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You know, up on his shoulder.
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This is back in the day
when you'd carry
a big boombox that needed,
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like, D cells, like,
ten of them.
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He had this boombox about
this big on his shoulder,
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and he would just be--
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[Erik] Blasting Motorhead,
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and that was Rich Birch.
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This shit was so loud it was
like a Memorex commercial.
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Whoa, who's that guy?
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That seems like somebody
we should know.
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[Kirk] Very quickly
I got invited to hang out
with some of his crew
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and ended up in a place
in the Golden Gate Park
called Strawberry Hill,
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where I met Ron Quintana.
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Ian Kallen.
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It was the beginning
of getting to know
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that crew of people
that were all the
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IronMaiden/Motorhead/
Saxon/Diamond Head/
Merciful Fate fanatics.
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By 1980, music sucked.
1979 sucked worse.
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Being a kid in San Francisco,
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radio was going downhill disco.
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So radio stations
were really bad.
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Luckily there was KUSF,
which could play harder
punk stuff.
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So that's where you'd first
hear UFO maybe once in a while.
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And at high school
I ran into a friend,
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and he said,
"You've got to go to this
store called the Record Vault.
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It's amazing."
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I got on the bus.
I headed up, walked in,
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and it was like
walking into Mecca.
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It was dark. It was cool.
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There was Motorhead playing,
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and all over the walls was
everything that I was into.
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We'd find all this great,
imported metal, you know?
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Budgie, Venom,
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Diamond Head,
and Sweet Savage demos.
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All this stuff that
we really loved that
you weren't going to find at,
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like, Tower Records.
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Back then you'd be
hanging out in the record store
for two, three hours.
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You only have $20 bucks
in your pocket,
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so you were trying to figure out
which two records to buy.
You know, it took a while.
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It was the place everybody came
to find out things.
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It was the place everybody came
to buy their new release,
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to get their copy of
Metal Mania, Ardschok,
Kerrang!,whatever.
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And it was awesome.
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It was an amazing experience
just to go there
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and see all these like minded
people that were there, too,
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shopping for the same stuff,
and they're all wearing vests,
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back patches, and into metal
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and into all this
underground stuff.
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The record stores would have
the albums set up on the wall
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and on a little shelf,
so you could see the cover,
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and there was the first
Iron Maiden album cover
with Eddie on it.
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It was like, oh, shit,
look at that.
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Down in Southern California,
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my place was called
Middle Earth Records.
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You know, you'd have to go in
and order the record.
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There was such an anticipation
around getting it.
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All the different bands,
you know,
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all these different,
unique sounds and styles,
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and we were just--
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We just dove head first into it.
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I gravitated towards
these metal bands because
they were an escape.
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You listen to an
Iron Maiden song,
and they're talking about
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a fantasy that was
no different, in my head,
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to a Stephen King novel.
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Yes, there were murders.
Yes, there were Satanic things.
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It was fantasy.
It didn't make me want to go out
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and slaughter babies
or anything.
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It was an escape
from my suburban,
teenage life.
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This is just
a drawing of Eddie.
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I was a huge Iron Maiden fan,
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and obviously I should've
been paying more attention
in geometry.
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I got a 27 out of 52.
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[narrator]The compact cassette
tape came of age in the 1970s.
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Inexpensive and easy to record,
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tape-traders quickly adopted it
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as a means of spreading
the newest sounds.
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In the pages of Kerrang!,
they would have pen pal ads.
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Kerrang!
would run them for free.
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That's what started everything.
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That's how I found out about
Brian Lew and KJ Doughton.
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KJ had a ton of Maiden,
and so did Brian.
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So that was cool.
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That was another big staple
of the movement.
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Everyone had their demo
and bootleg list,
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and they'd ask for the other
person's list and trade tapes.
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Back then it was
snail mail, tapes,
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stamps, and handwritten letters.
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All of a sudden I was getting
letters from people in Germany,
Holland, France,
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England, New York and Chicago.
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It just opened up
this whole worldview.
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I had been now trading with so
many people, getting tapes
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and fanzines
from England, mainly.
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This list kept growing from two,
three, four, five, six pages.
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Then I realized,
"Well, I want to do a fanzine,"
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and I started
to add pictures in July.
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And it became Metal Mania
by August of 1981.
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When I first met Ron,
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he made me a compilation tape.
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I mean, it was the thing to do.
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It was part of the conversation
back then in the early '80s.
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The thing that maybe
has become the misconception
over the years about
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the tape-trading network is
that we weren't dubbing albums.
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We were dubbing live bootlegs.
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You know, at that time
part of being a music fan,
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is you wanted to own the record.
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You wanted to own
the seven-inch single,
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because it made you feel part
of something bigger.
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In high school,
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they had a guitar class,
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and it was literally 30 people
learning how to play guitar.
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And in that class
was Mark Biederman,
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who was eventually
in Blind Illusion, and Kirk.
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Before Gary was
in the band, you know,
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when it was just Kirk and them.
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They sometimes rehearsed
at our rehearsal space.
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And Kirk and I were
in Mr. Bee's class together,
the guitar class.
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We were kind of just mostly
learning our instruments.
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And you know,
Kirk turned me on to so
many different kinds of music.
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Like, I had never heard
UFO or the Scorpions.
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All we had was music, you know?
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And then when
we got into the music,
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all we had were each other.
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We wanted to take it
to the next level,
so we got instruments.
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And I think that the anger
of being in a place
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that just didn't have enough
to offer, you know,
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the frustration of being bored.
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I think a lot of that got
channeled into our instruments.
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[rock music playing]
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[narrator] In Los Angeles,
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a new heavy metal
was beginning to rise.
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In December of 1980,
a friend of mine and I--
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Who were the only
two people, by the way,
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at the time who knew
anything about the new wave
of heavy metal.
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Went to see Michael Schenker
Group play at a place called
the Country Club in Reseda.
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After the show, my friend John
was in the parking lot,
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and he saw some kid wearing
a Saxon European T-shirt.
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Now, in 1980 nobody knew
who Saxon was in L.A.,
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let alone had
a European T-shirt.
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And that of course was
a kid named Lars Ulrich.
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Fast-forward to when
James and I had the band.
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One thing led to another,
and we started playing in L.A.
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A year-and-a-half or so later,
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we got the idea to do
a compilation album.
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Lars called me up
one day and said,
"If I put together a band,
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can I be on your album?"
Like, of course. Absolutely.
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So Lars and me are always
talking about doing a magazine.
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We need a store, man.
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Let's just start
a club and hang out.
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And Lars, in his way,
you know, he was like,
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"Oh, that's cool.
That's a good idea, man."
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He showed me a list of
his future band or club names.
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So he had, like,
generic, hot-rod-y
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American car names:
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Thunderbolt,
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Metal Mania, Metallica.
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He had a huge list of names.
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That ended up being some band
that starts with an "M".
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I think it was Metallica,
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that we misspelled on
the very first [laughs]
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version of the record.
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Lars always was able
to make things happen.
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Somehow he landed them
a gig opening for Saxon.
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James didn't play guitar.
He just sang.
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And Dave Mustaine played guitar.
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Their set consisted of
"Hit the Lights,"
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"Blitzkrieg" by Blitzkrieg,
and about five
Diamond Head covers.
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That was pretty much it.
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The selection of
the cover songs we did
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I think was a little bit
more involved,
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because we all kind of had
a say in what bands we liked.
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When Metal Mania 5 came
out right after Metallica
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played their very
first shows ever.
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So, Lars helped write
an article about his show
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and this great new band,
Metallica.
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He wrote this little article
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about L.A. heavy metal
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and young metal
attack Metallica,
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and this is the very
first article ever
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of Metallica.
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and of course it was
written by Lars. [laughs]
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But they never really quite
fit in with the L.A. crowd.
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We got gigs when we could,
as many as we could.
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You know, we got kicked out
of a few clubs
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because they thought we were
a punk rock band.
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With Brian Slagel's help,
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we were able to go up
to the San Francisco area
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with a few other L.A. bands.
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Man, it was on.
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[heavy metal plays]
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[Sven Soderlund]
When they came up
to San Francisco,
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and they saw the energy
that was involved,
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they just wanted
to be in that element.
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And it helped them tremendously,
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and it helped us grow as a scene
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in San Francisco
and the Bay Area, as well.
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A lot of bands came out
of the East Bay.
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A lot of musicians came out
of the East Bay.
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The East Bay is
a fucked up place.
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In the '70s and early 80s,
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it had high unemployment,
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high crime rate,
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and it was a boring place.
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My mom worked a lot,
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so like in the daytime
I had a lot of
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free time to myself
to just jam out at home.
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We were ghetto kids, you know?
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We stole shit, you know?
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Like, there's the time
the Wagon Wheel liquor store
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in Pinole burned down, right?
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You know, most people stay away
from burnt out buildings.
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Not Exodus.
We crawled through the wreckage,
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because there was
dozens and dozens of bottles
of alcohol in there.
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I actually met Gary shoplifting
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when we were going
to junior high school.
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We had nothing given to us.
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We stole some
of our first equipment.
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Gary was a friend of mine
from Richmond,
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and he was kind of
helping us out
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with gear and stuff like that.
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Then Kirk gave him
a guitar lesson, and...
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[explosion]
Wow.
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Taught me how
to play guitar, you know?
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I hold a pick the way I do,
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I fret a bar chord the way I do.
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We do it exactly the same,
because he showed me.
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Here's how you hold a pick.
So, all right,
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I'll hold a pick
like that, then.
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It was Kirk saying yeah,
I want to jam with people
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finding guys that played,
and making it happen.
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I remember walking into
this party, not knowing anyone,
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seeing this one short guy
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with hair that was just like
mushroom-shaped, super long,
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[raspy voice]
and he was talking like this
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[normal voice]
and was cracking jokes,
and some of it was pretty funny.
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And he started talking
about music. He's like,
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[mimics voice] "Oh, yeah, Judas
Priest. So heavy, so heavy.
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Oh, Maiden is so heavy,
so heavy."
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And I said to him,
"Hey, bro, you know UFO?"
He goes...
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♪ Rock bottom! ♪
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♪ Rock bottom! ♪
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And starts singing
"Rock Bottom" to me.
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♪ Seventeen
and nature's queen ♪
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I looked at him and said,
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"You're going to be the singer
of our new band, Exodus."
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He's like, "Okay."
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00:16:15,758 --> 00:16:20,000
Then from that minute on
we were inseparable.
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00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,551
His name was Pablo
Nikolaivich Paulakersokoff.
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00:16:22,551 --> 00:16:24,241
It means,
Son of Nicholas in Russian.
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He was a blue blood Russian.
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He was a little tiny guy,
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very aggressive.
A strong, thick,
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100-percent Russian man.
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Paul was Paul,
take it or leave it.
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I mean, he had so much charisma
and so much energy
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that you just wanted
to be around him.
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[heavy metal plays]
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He couldn't sing that well,
but he could sing good enough.
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[singing thrash metal]
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That's where the line-up
really came together,
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you know, it's when
we found the band's voice.
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Baloff wasn't a singer
when we met him.
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He was just a
headbanger like us.
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When Exodus played, they just
got the crowd completely insane.
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[Ron Quintana over radio]
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[heavy thrash metal plays]
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Paul's first show was at
the Ducal Palace in Alameda,
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which is some little
hall pizza joint
kind of place, you know?
399
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And I remember, like,
I knew he was the right guy
for the job
400
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because it was one
of those places that's got a
stage that's about a foot high.
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And next thing you know,
he's over on top of the tables,
402
00:17:53,931 --> 00:17:55,758
and he's just rocking
them fiercely like that,
403
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trying to break them.
It was just fucking awesome.
404
00:17:59,137 --> 00:18:00,862
He checked everyone's attitude
405
00:18:00,862 --> 00:18:02,862
and made sure that
if you're hanging out with us,
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you're into the music,
you knew the music,
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and you weren't an F'ing poser.
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00:18:08,620 --> 00:18:09,655
[heavy metal plays]
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[Brian Slagel]
I was friends with all
the people in San Francisco.
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There was a really great
scene going on up there,
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so I was able to put together
a Metal Massacre show
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at the Stone in San Francisco,
which was one of
the big clubs there.
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So it was going to be
three bands from L.A.
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and I called up Lars
and said, "Hey, one of
the bands dropped out.
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We have this gig up
in San Francisco.
You guys want to do it?"
416
00:18:34,241 --> 00:18:37,206
We weren't one of
the three bigger bands.
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We weren't even first
on the agenda there,
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00:18:39,517 --> 00:18:41,862
but we got invited
when somebody canceled.
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[Dave Mustaine]
So we hopped in Ron McGovney's
pickup truck with our gear,
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and off we went with
a trailer in the back.
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[Dave Mustaine recorded]
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[audience cheering]
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[Erik] There were only
a handful of people there.
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I know a lot of people
claimed to have been there.
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I was actually given
this shirt by their original
bass player, Ron McGovney.
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And that was the most
amazing evening I ever saw,
427
00:19:03,827 --> 00:19:05,689
because in L.A.
they were outcast. Nobody knew.
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00:19:05,689 --> 00:19:09,448
And we went up to San Francisco,
and that place went crazy.
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[narrator] In
September 1982,
430
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Metallica played their first
show in San Francisco.
431
00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:18,448
The reaction was
immediate and explosive.
432
00:19:18,448 --> 00:19:21,482
My mom didn't let me go.
433
00:19:21,482 --> 00:19:24,862
[Ron Quintana]
Dave had this charisma
that just took over the band,
434
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and when Metallica played,
435
00:19:26,620 --> 00:19:28,448
I thought he was going
to be the next superstar
436
00:19:28,448 --> 00:19:31,137
because he was so
crazy on stage,
437
00:19:31,137 --> 00:19:32,896
and funny.
438
00:19:32,896 --> 00:19:35,413
Who the fuck's the frontman,
you or him?
439
00:19:35,413 --> 00:19:37,724
And I liked it because,
you know, I've got a big mouth.
440
00:19:37,724 --> 00:19:39,241
I like to talk. [chuckles]
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[heavy metal plays]
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00:19:41,724 --> 00:19:43,482
Some of those people
that I had befriended
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for the previous
year or two came,
444
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and you felt there was a scene,
445
00:19:48,172 --> 00:19:51,862
sort of a collection
of people that were
really fans of the music,
446
00:19:51,862 --> 00:19:53,655
which was a really
different thing than
447
00:19:53,655 --> 00:19:56,689
what was happening
in L.A. at the time.
448
00:19:56,689 --> 00:19:58,482
So it was a very, uh,
449
00:19:58,482 --> 00:19:59,655
surreal,
450
00:19:59,655 --> 00:20:01,758
transformative experience
for us.
451
00:20:01,758 --> 00:20:04,551
[Brian Lew]
We were all teenagers.
They were in a band onstage.
452
00:20:04,551 --> 00:20:06,517
We were teenagers in the crowd.
453
00:20:06,517 --> 00:20:08,724
And at the time, Metallica were
doing Diamond Head covers,
454
00:20:08,724 --> 00:20:11,827
you know, one of
those bands we didn't think
anybody else knew about.
455
00:20:11,827 --> 00:20:14,000
And when they launched
into "The Prince,"
456
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that's when the bond
with that band
457
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,000
and the Bay Area happened.
If you know that band,
you're a brother.
458
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That was the switch.
459
00:20:21,137 --> 00:20:22,758
Yeah, I remember
that first show,
460
00:20:22,758 --> 00:20:26,965
seeing fans that didn't care
what they looked like.
461
00:20:26,965 --> 00:20:29,206
I mean, they had
cutoff denim and stuff.
462
00:20:29,206 --> 00:20:30,724
They didn't care.
463
00:20:30,724 --> 00:20:34,310
And they were at
the front of the stage,
464
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headbanging, because the
music did that for them.
465
00:20:38,103 --> 00:20:40,413
They weren't gathered around
the bar scene or anything.
466
00:20:40,413 --> 00:20:42,172
They were there for the music.
467
00:20:42,172 --> 00:20:44,724
I think we had a much different
relationship with our fans,
468
00:20:44,724 --> 00:20:47,448
because we were
salt of the earth.
469
00:20:47,448 --> 00:20:51,172
Metallica came up
to the Bay Area to play
the Old Waldorf,
470
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and I remember watching
them thinking,
471
00:20:53,103 --> 00:20:54,965
"Fucking pretty cool."
472
00:20:54,965 --> 00:20:58,827
Then Laaz Rockit came on
and played for literally,
like, 25 people,
473
00:20:58,827 --> 00:21:00,896
and that said a lot to me.
474
00:21:00,896 --> 00:21:04,620
It said a lot to Baloff.
It said to everyone in Exodus.
475
00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:06,724
We were like, okay.
476
00:21:06,724 --> 00:21:10,586
All right, we know
what's working here,
and we know what's not.
477
00:21:10,586 --> 00:21:13,137
Yeah, so Metallica, I first got
hip to them through the demo.
478
00:21:13,137 --> 00:21:15,862
So shortly after that, the band
I was playing with at the time,
479
00:21:15,862 --> 00:21:17,620
Laaz Rockit,
we were playing a show together.
480
00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:19,965
They were playing before us.
Mistake.
481
00:21:19,965 --> 00:21:23,206
Something about Metallica.
They had that special--
482
00:21:23,206 --> 00:21:25,758
That kick,
483
00:21:25,758 --> 00:21:27,275
and you know?
484
00:21:27,275 --> 00:21:29,068
They got that extra boost
of adrenaline that
485
00:21:29,068 --> 00:21:32,310
I think made everyone
step up their game. Everyone.
486
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:34,172
Then we played
a show the next day,
487
00:21:34,172 --> 00:21:38,068
and it was a benefit
for Metal Mania.
488
00:21:38,068 --> 00:21:39,965
It was kind of
a hodgepodge thing
489
00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:43,896
that was put together
in 24 hours.
They needed to find bands.
490
00:21:43,896 --> 00:21:45,758
They had got Metallica.
491
00:21:45,758 --> 00:21:47,517
They asked us to open. We said
sure, we'll open the show.
492
00:21:47,517 --> 00:21:49,931
This is at the Mabuhay Gardens.
493
00:21:49,931 --> 00:21:51,379
We played our show.
494
00:21:51,379 --> 00:21:54,034
Then Metallica came on,
and they played.
495
00:21:54,034 --> 00:21:55,482
And they were just fantastic.
496
00:21:55,482 --> 00:21:57,586
That's when I first met James,
497
00:21:57,586 --> 00:22:00,275
and that's when
I first met Lars.
498
00:22:00,275 --> 00:22:04,896
You know, it's funny
because it was a window into
things to come in my future,
499
00:22:04,896 --> 00:22:06,827
because as I was
talking to Lars,
500
00:22:06,827 --> 00:22:10,827
he got undressed and changed
right in front of me.
501
00:22:10,827 --> 00:22:15,793
I was like, wow,
why is this guy doing that?
502
00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:17,551
Then I realized, oh,
503
00:22:17,551 --> 00:22:20,827
this is, I guess,
what European people do.
504
00:22:20,827 --> 00:22:22,482
[laughs] Because...
505
00:22:22,482 --> 00:22:24,551
You know,
I lived in the East Bay.
506
00:22:24,551 --> 00:22:30,206
All I had to contend with was
rednecks everywhere, you know?
507
00:22:30,206 --> 00:22:33,655
[narrator] Metallica's
legendary demo cassette,
"No Life Til Leather,"
508
00:22:33,655 --> 00:22:37,034
was recorded in
the summer of 1982.
509
00:22:37,034 --> 00:22:40,724
It immediately became a stapleof
the tape-trading underground
510
00:22:40,724 --> 00:22:44,586
and established the band as a
force to be reckoned with.
511
00:22:44,586 --> 00:22:47,620
[Lars] First we did a four-song
demo called "Power Metal,"
512
00:22:47,620 --> 00:22:49,896
and then the infamous
"No Life Til Leather" tape
513
00:22:49,896 --> 00:22:51,758
came a couple months after.
514
00:22:51,758 --> 00:22:54,793
I just started sending it
to all the same people
515
00:22:54,793 --> 00:22:58,413
that I'd been trading
some of this other
underground metal stuff with,
516
00:22:58,413 --> 00:23:02,000
Like the KJ Doughtons
of the world.
517
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,379
Oh, my God,
this is tape is amazing.
518
00:23:03,379 --> 00:23:05,275
It just crushes.
It's unbelievable,
519
00:23:05,275 --> 00:23:07,310
they've come so far.
520
00:23:07,310 --> 00:23:10,724
And I sent Brian
the first Metallica demo,
521
00:23:10,724 --> 00:23:12,620
and I think that's
the first taste he got of it.
522
00:23:18,379 --> 00:23:20,137
[Tony Isabella]
While working at the club,
523
00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:24,344
one of my coworkers had started
to do a Monday night event
524
00:23:24,344 --> 00:23:26,517
called Metal Monday,
525
00:23:26,517 --> 00:23:29,931
and these bands that later
became thrash were presented.
526
00:23:29,931 --> 00:23:33,241
And it was clear this
was a new direction.
527
00:23:33,241 --> 00:23:35,344
[Craig Behrhurst]
Attendance on a Tuesday morning
in any of the high schools
528
00:23:35,344 --> 00:23:38,172
across the Bay Area
was pretty poor.
529
00:23:38,172 --> 00:23:41,000
I can attest to that,
because a lot of us
were still in high school.
530
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,793
[Harold Olmden]
The Bay Area people were
so loyal to the band that
531
00:23:42,793 --> 00:23:44,620
if they didn't like the band,
they would actually
532
00:23:44,620 --> 00:23:47,896
turn their backs on the band
while they were playing.
533
00:23:47,896 --> 00:23:49,793
[Brian] There was a band
called Hans Naughty.
534
00:23:49,793 --> 00:23:51,413
They were based in San Francisco
535
00:23:51,413 --> 00:23:54,965
but with a very much Los Angeles
Sunset Strip aesthetic,
536
00:23:54,965 --> 00:23:56,620
and they were on
the bill with Metallica.
537
00:23:56,620 --> 00:23:59,620
There were fans
that had patches of
538
00:23:59,620 --> 00:24:02,275
obviously their favorite
bands on and what not.
539
00:24:02,275 --> 00:24:05,689
They would show how much
they liked the band
or didn't like the band.
540
00:24:05,689 --> 00:24:07,862
We might've flipped
them off a couple times,
and that got boring.
541
00:24:07,862 --> 00:24:13,655
[K.J. Doughton]
They just quietly turned, and
that was I guess silent protest.
542
00:24:13,655 --> 00:24:15,862
They got across that hey,
you're not a favorite band,
543
00:24:15,862 --> 00:24:20,517
and we're waiting for this one,
the one that's on my back patch.
544
00:24:20,517 --> 00:24:22,586
[Ray Burton]
Cliff came to us and said,
545
00:24:22,586 --> 00:24:25,793
"I'd like to learn
to play bass guitar."
546
00:24:25,793 --> 00:24:27,482
Jan and I said yeah,
547
00:24:27,482 --> 00:24:30,482
so we got him a cheap guitar
and a cheap amplifier,
548
00:24:30,482 --> 00:24:32,655
then started giving him lessons.
549
00:24:32,655 --> 00:24:34,413
And from then on...
550
00:24:35,137 --> 00:24:37,551
it was all Cliff.
551
00:24:37,551 --> 00:24:41,034
I knew about Cliff Burton
from his previous band, Trauma,
552
00:24:41,034 --> 00:24:42,862
because Baloff
knew about Trauma.
553
00:24:42,862 --> 00:24:44,758
Baloff had seen Trauma and said,
"Oh, you got to see this band.
554
00:24:44,758 --> 00:24:48,517
They've got a killer bass player
and a killer guitar player."
555
00:24:48,517 --> 00:24:49,862
He said to me one day,
"Hey, let's--
556
00:24:49,862 --> 00:24:51,413
you want to go
557
00:24:51,413 --> 00:24:55,275
to San Francisco
to see a show at the Stone?"
558
00:24:55,275 --> 00:24:58,482
"What's going on?"
He goes, "Well, let's see
this band Metallica."
559
00:24:58,482 --> 00:25:00,724
Maybe a couple months later,
I was talking to Lars.
560
00:25:00,724 --> 00:25:02,793
He said, "Do you know any good
bass players out there?"
561
00:25:02,793 --> 00:25:06,517
I said, "Well, there's
this band from San Francisco
562
00:25:06,517 --> 00:25:08,965
with this amazing bass player
named Cliff Burton.
563
00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:11,275
I saw him at the
Troubadour a while ago,
coming down and playing again.
564
00:25:11,275 --> 00:25:14,275
"You guys should come."
So Lars was like, "Okay, cool."
565
00:25:14,275 --> 00:25:16,551
The show happens.
Lars and James were there.
566
00:25:16,551 --> 00:25:19,275
I didn't know how far
into the set,
but it was pretty early.
567
00:25:19,275 --> 00:25:21,551
Maybe the second or
third song Lars goes to me,
568
00:25:21,551 --> 00:25:23,172
"That's going
to be our bass player."
569
00:25:23,172 --> 00:25:25,482
[bass plays]
570
00:25:27,482 --> 00:25:30,965
[James Hetfield]
Cliff represented the Bay Area.
571
00:25:30,965 --> 00:25:33,137
He represented a freedom.
572
00:25:33,137 --> 00:25:36,310
He represented a freakness
573
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:39,724
that I didn't know
574
00:25:39,724 --> 00:25:41,827
so much growing up in L.A.
575
00:25:41,827 --> 00:25:45,413
I went and saw Cliff play with
Trauma at the Keystone Berkeley,
576
00:25:45,413 --> 00:25:48,413
and it was no secret
that the band knew
577
00:25:48,413 --> 00:25:50,827
that Cliff was about
to be poached from them.
578
00:25:50,827 --> 00:25:53,413
That's where Cliff belonged,
was in Metallica.
579
00:25:53,413 --> 00:25:56,620
[Ray] Cliff would be talking
to somebody on the phone.
580
00:25:56,620 --> 00:25:58,827
And just talk, talk.
581
00:25:58,827 --> 00:26:00,793
And this went on for,
582
00:26:00,793 --> 00:26:03,206
oh, golly, I'd swear a month.
583
00:26:03,206 --> 00:26:04,724
Finally I said to Jan,
584
00:26:04,724 --> 00:26:07,413
"Who's Cliff talking to on
the phone so much?"
585
00:26:07,413 --> 00:26:10,965
And she said, "Well,
there's a band from Los Angeles
586
00:26:10,965 --> 00:26:13,793
that wants him to join them."
587
00:26:13,793 --> 00:26:16,413
And Cliff said,
588
00:26:16,413 --> 00:26:20,758
"No, I'm not going
to go down to L.A., I said,
589
00:26:20,758 --> 00:26:23,724
"If you guys want me
to join your band,
590
00:26:23,724 --> 00:26:25,758
you can come up
to the Bay Area."
591
00:26:25,758 --> 00:26:28,172
And by golly, here they did.
[laughs]
592
00:26:28,172 --> 00:26:29,275
Then one day...
593
00:26:29,275 --> 00:26:30,448
[phone rings]
594
00:26:30,448 --> 00:26:32,103
Baloff called me up and said,
595
00:26:32,103 --> 00:26:33,965
"That guy Cliff Burton,
bass player for Trauma,
596
00:26:33,965 --> 00:26:38,103
is in Metallica now!"
And I said, "No fucking way."
597
00:26:46,655 --> 00:26:48,689
And then I saw them
at the Stone,
598
00:26:48,689 --> 00:26:52,172
you know, Cliff's first gig
at the Stone. I was just like--
599
00:27:00,689 --> 00:27:03,310
[Gary Holt] It was kind of
like looking in a mirror.
600
00:27:03,310 --> 00:27:05,172
Here's another
band playing, like,
601
00:27:05,172 --> 00:27:07,241
kind of what we are, you know,
602
00:27:07,241 --> 00:27:10,137
their own stamp on it.
But, you know,
603
00:27:10,137 --> 00:27:13,862
I remember just hanging out
and getting hammered that night,
604
00:27:13,862 --> 00:27:16,517
and we just all kind of
said the same thing.
605
00:27:16,517 --> 00:27:18,413
We kind of found our kindred
spirit, you know?
606
00:27:18,413 --> 00:27:20,655
[James]
There was a lot of integrity
607
00:27:20,655 --> 00:27:22,896
in the metal scene
in San Francisco.
608
00:27:22,896 --> 00:27:25,689
Besides going up on
the hill by the park
609
00:27:25,689 --> 00:27:29,275
and just blasting whatever
music we were loving,
610
00:27:29,275 --> 00:27:31,137
booze and music, you know?
611
00:27:31,137 --> 00:27:33,620
That was our collective. That's
where we got to know each other
612
00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:36,000
and really feel like
we had a family.
613
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,413
[man] Cliff is the one that
brought us to the Bay Area.
614
00:27:38,413 --> 00:27:41,827
If you want me in the band,
you got to come up here.
615
00:27:41,827 --> 00:27:44,793
[narrator]
On December 28th, 1982,
616
00:27:44,793 --> 00:27:47,517
Cliff Burton was invited
to play in a small house
in El Cerrito
617
00:27:47,517 --> 00:27:52,379
that would later
come to be known
as the Metallica Mansion.
618
00:27:52,379 --> 00:27:54,275
Part audition,
part rehearsal,
619
00:27:54,275 --> 00:27:56,517
only a lucky few
were there.
620
00:27:56,517 --> 00:27:59,034
No audio exists,
but fortunately for history
621
00:27:59,034 --> 00:28:03,000
Brian Lew brought
his camera and photographed
the new band lineup.
622
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,448
[Brian] At some point Lars
probably called me and said,
623
00:28:05,448 --> 00:28:08,448
"You know, we're going to be
playing with our new bassist."
624
00:28:08,448 --> 00:28:11,206
Ron Quintana was there.
Rich Burch was there.
625
00:28:11,206 --> 00:28:13,827
Ian Callin,
who did Metal Mania
with Ron, was there.
626
00:28:13,827 --> 00:28:16,758
There was a group
of maybe five or six of us.
627
00:28:16,758 --> 00:28:19,206
There's this little room
in El Cerrito,
628
00:28:19,206 --> 00:28:22,172
and that was the living room
where Metallica played
with Cliff for the first time.
629
00:28:22,172 --> 00:28:24,206
And that was it.
630
00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:33,931
Jamming with Cliff
for the first time
in the living room there,
631
00:28:33,931 --> 00:28:37,482
hearing "Seek and Destroy,"
and all of a sudden
he's doing some stuff.
632
00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:40,620
It's like, oh, my God,
this is going to be awesome.
633
00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:44,137
It sort of catapulted
Metallica to another level.
634
00:28:44,137 --> 00:28:49,379
[narrator] In early 1983,
Metallica moved from Los
Angeles to the Bay Area.
635
00:28:49,379 --> 00:28:52,310
A very short window of time
636
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:55,103
with Mustaine in the band
and Cliff in the band,
637
00:28:55,103 --> 00:28:59,103
and rehearsing and a few really
great shows in the Bay Area.
638
00:29:03,310 --> 00:29:08,482
[Dave] That was one of
the things that you could tell
when we played together.
639
00:29:08,482 --> 00:29:13,034
When the lights are off
and the guitars are roaring,
there's a respect.
640
00:29:13,034 --> 00:29:15,103
Just the whole area,
being up there,
641
00:29:15,103 --> 00:29:19,379
getting Cliff onboard,
it felt like home.
642
00:29:19,379 --> 00:29:22,724
Then it came time for us
to play the show at the Stone.
643
00:29:22,724 --> 00:29:25,103
We went on,
and we had a great show.
644
00:29:25,103 --> 00:29:26,275
The place was packed.
645
00:29:26,275 --> 00:29:28,206
And then Metallica came on.
646
00:29:28,206 --> 00:29:30,344
[heavy metal playing]
647
00:29:30,344 --> 00:29:33,310
And it was the first time
that I'd actually been able
648
00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:35,379
to watch the whole show.
649
00:29:35,379 --> 00:29:37,413
As I'm watching them, I thought,
650
00:29:37,413 --> 00:29:39,206
"These guys are fucking great.
651
00:29:39,206 --> 00:29:41,344
They'd be so much
better with me."
652
00:29:45,620 --> 00:29:48,172
[narrator]
In the New York area,
653
00:29:48,172 --> 00:29:51,793
Anthrax was proudly
flying the flag
of the new heavy metal.
654
00:29:51,793 --> 00:29:54,034
[Charlie Benante]
I think we felt
kind of out of it
655
00:29:54,034 --> 00:29:56,068
because we were the only band
656
00:29:56,068 --> 00:29:58,862
on the East Coast that wanted
to do something like this.
657
00:29:58,862 --> 00:30:03,241
We thought it was so cool
that in the Bay Area,
658
00:30:03,241 --> 00:30:05,275
there was this kind of club
659
00:30:05,275 --> 00:30:06,862
of this type of bands
660
00:30:06,862 --> 00:30:09,000
that were gigging around
and just making music.
661
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,310
And I remember Exodus being
one of the first bands,
662
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:13,620
beside Metallica,
663
00:30:13,620 --> 00:30:15,931
that I thought
were fucking great.
664
00:30:15,931 --> 00:30:17,931
I just started getting
the tape out there,
665
00:30:17,931 --> 00:30:22,068
and then we started getting
some good response.
666
00:30:22,068 --> 00:30:25,827
And eventually this
tape ended up in
the hands of Johnny Z.
667
00:30:25,827 --> 00:30:31,034
Around that time we
were meeting with Johnny Z
in New Jersey,
668
00:30:31,034 --> 00:30:32,620
giving him demos.
669
00:30:32,620 --> 00:30:35,068
He was bringing the band
from San Francisco to come over.
670
00:30:35,068 --> 00:30:38,862
[Kirk] Johnny Z came down
to the house with a demo tape,
671
00:30:38,862 --> 00:30:42,551
which was "No Life Til Leather."
We were blown away.
672
00:30:42,551 --> 00:30:45,827
Metallica was always ahead of us
and the other bands, you know?
673
00:30:45,827 --> 00:30:47,724
They were always six months
to a year ahead of us.
674
00:30:47,724 --> 00:30:49,586
They came out with
"Kill Em All"
675
00:30:49,586 --> 00:30:51,896
before any other band
had their records out.
676
00:30:51,896 --> 00:30:56,758
I think "Kill Em All"
really set the tone
for what was going to come.
677
00:30:56,758 --> 00:30:58,379
[narrator] In April 1983,
678
00:30:58,379 --> 00:31:01,724
Dave Mustaine was
let go from Metallica
679
00:31:01,724 --> 00:31:03,103
and replaced by
Kirk Hammett.
680
00:31:03,103 --> 00:31:06,241
We had obviously started
hanging out with Exodus,
681
00:31:06,241 --> 00:31:09,758
and Kirk was definitely
very musically gifted.
682
00:31:09,758 --> 00:31:13,137
And he was also very up
for whatever was going on.
683
00:31:13,137 --> 00:31:15,000
Yeah, Kirk and I
were at this party.
684
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,241
He's like, "Hey, man, come here.
Mark Whitaker just called me.
685
00:31:18,241 --> 00:31:20,586
They want me
to audition for Metallica."
686
00:31:20,586 --> 00:31:22,827
You know, it's like a passing
of the torch, you know?
687
00:31:22,827 --> 00:31:26,896
Like, Kirk giving me the keys
to the family car and saying,
688
00:31:26,896 --> 00:31:29,448
"Here, it's yours now.
Don't blow it up."
689
00:31:31,137 --> 00:31:32,827
As far as the music
was concerned,
690
00:31:32,827 --> 00:31:34,689
Exodus's music was similar
691
00:31:34,689 --> 00:31:37,827
as to what Metallica
was doing already.
692
00:31:37,827 --> 00:31:41,482
I had the chops
to be able to play all
that stuff on "Kill Em All,"
693
00:31:41,482 --> 00:31:42,655
no problem.
694
00:31:42,655 --> 00:31:45,103
That was the least
of my worries,
695
00:31:45,103 --> 00:31:49,655
because even then I knew
that when you go into a band,
there's a certain dynamic.
696
00:31:49,655 --> 00:31:53,517
And if your personality doesn't
work within that band dynamic,
697
00:31:53,517 --> 00:31:56,586
it just won't work.
You won't go anywhere.
698
00:31:56,586 --> 00:31:59,862
[narrator]A group of die-hard
New Jersey metal fans
699
00:31:59,862 --> 00:32:03,379
known as the Old Bridge
Militiatook Metallica into their
home,
700
00:32:03,379 --> 00:32:05,413
the Funhouse.
701
00:32:05,413 --> 00:32:07,517
It's pretty amazing that
the house got a nickname,
702
00:32:07,517 --> 00:32:09,827
which was the Funhouse
because of all the things
that we did down there.
703
00:32:09,827 --> 00:32:12,482
[Ray Dill]
The place was all about fun,
because what did you do there?
704
00:32:12,482 --> 00:32:14,827
-You had dirt bikes happening.
-oh, Yeah.
705
00:32:14,827 --> 00:32:17,931
You had canoe rides.
We hooked a canoe up to a chain.
706
00:32:17,931 --> 00:32:19,931
[Mark] We were welcome
to quite a few places
707
00:32:19,931 --> 00:32:22,034
that maybe shouldn't have.
[laughs]
708
00:32:22,034 --> 00:32:24,137
-The Funhouse--
-Not much to pick from.
709
00:32:24,137 --> 00:32:27,172
-They didn't have much.
-A house with no heat,
sometimes.
710
00:32:27,172 --> 00:32:30,241
[Mark] You know, they supplied
us with the things we needed.
711
00:32:30,241 --> 00:32:31,517
[laughing]
712
00:32:31,517 --> 00:32:33,068
You know,
everybody knew that
713
00:32:33,068 --> 00:32:35,137
we would have
these crazy parties
714
00:32:35,137 --> 00:32:36,620
with the music going crazy.
715
00:32:36,620 --> 00:32:38,482
The sound system was...
716
00:32:38,482 --> 00:32:40,517
I believe it was
a four-channel Onkyo.
717
00:32:40,517 --> 00:32:42,862
[Joe] Yeah, I had the SAE,
but we bought a regular--
718
00:32:42,862 --> 00:32:45,793
-Rack system.
-Yeah, a whole rack system.
719
00:32:45,793 --> 00:32:47,379
Yeah, we just didn't
have the regular speakers.
720
00:32:47,379 --> 00:32:49,275
I guess they
were monitors, right?
721
00:32:49,275 --> 00:32:51,586
Two 12s, two 14s--
whatever.
722
00:32:51,586 --> 00:32:53,172
It went up to
the ceiling of the house.
723
00:32:53,172 --> 00:32:55,172
Run a demo, and then
you're in your bedroom.
724
00:32:55,172 --> 00:32:58,241
It was like, wow,
this is pretty wild.
725
00:32:58,241 --> 00:32:59,724
[narrator]nMeanwhile
back in the East Bay,
726
00:32:59,724 --> 00:33:02,000
Exodus quickly took hold
727
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,758
as the Bay Area's go-to
heavy metal band.
728
00:33:03,758 --> 00:33:07,586
Ruthie's Inn became home
to the burgeoning scene.
729
00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:12,620
Looks like someone's
trying to make a respectable
location out of this place.
730
00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:14,793
Let's open it back up,
Ruthie's Inn. [laughs]
731
00:33:14,793 --> 00:33:17,551
Last time I was down here,
it still had the marquee,
732
00:33:17,551 --> 00:33:20,103
and you could still see
Ruthie's Inn on it.
733
00:33:20,103 --> 00:33:22,896
This place was
as much the epicenter
734
00:33:22,896 --> 00:33:27,793
of the Bay Area thrash scene
as CBGBs was to
the New York punk scene.
735
00:33:27,793 --> 00:33:31,206
I mean, there were so many
clubs prior to Ruthie's,
736
00:33:31,206 --> 00:33:33,482
but this is where
the violence took off.
737
00:33:33,482 --> 00:33:35,379
[laughs] This is where
"Murder in the Front Row"
738
00:33:35,379 --> 00:33:37,482
really did take place.
739
00:33:37,482 --> 00:33:41,275
[Durelle Ali]
My father was Wes Robinson,
born in Port Arthur, Texas.
740
00:33:41,275 --> 00:33:44,655
Came out to
the East Bay about 1933.
741
00:33:44,655 --> 00:33:47,241
He grew up in a household
that was full of music,
742
00:33:47,241 --> 00:33:50,827
and they were
hardcore jazz aficionados.
743
00:33:50,827 --> 00:33:55,620
They would sneak out
late at night to go see
Ella Fitzgerald or the classics.
744
00:33:55,620 --> 00:33:58,827
A lot of the greats.
That started his love of music.
745
00:33:58,827 --> 00:34:00,551
It wasn't so much
that he had a club,
746
00:34:00,551 --> 00:34:03,172
but rather that
he would foster relationships
747
00:34:03,172 --> 00:34:08,586
that would allow him
to use different venues
for performances.
748
00:34:08,586 --> 00:34:09,482
He was a promoter,
749
00:34:09,482 --> 00:34:11,344
and that was the beginning.
750
00:34:11,344 --> 00:34:12,827
And Wes Robinson, you know,
751
00:34:12,827 --> 00:34:14,862
the late, great Wes Robinson,
you know,
752
00:34:14,862 --> 00:34:19,172
booked Exodus at the first ever
show at Ruthie's, a blues club.
753
00:34:19,172 --> 00:34:20,931
[Durelle]
His joy for something
754
00:34:20,931 --> 00:34:23,551
always led his actions into
getting involved with it.
755
00:34:23,551 --> 00:34:26,586
He never got involved
with something just because
756
00:34:26,586 --> 00:34:29,172
he might be able
to make some money at it.
757
00:34:29,172 --> 00:34:30,275
He saw something in it.
758
00:34:30,275 --> 00:34:32,034
I'm not sure what he saw.
759
00:34:32,034 --> 00:34:35,620
Maybe he recognized
from when he was a music fan,
760
00:34:35,620 --> 00:34:36,793
being younger.
761
00:34:36,793 --> 00:34:38,586
Obviously much different music,
762
00:34:38,586 --> 00:34:40,689
but I think he saw some
of that same energy.
763
00:34:40,689 --> 00:34:43,620
So he really helped
nurture the scene.
764
00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:46,137
There were battles
along the way.
765
00:34:46,137 --> 00:34:48,379
There were battles
from the neighborhood.
766
00:34:48,379 --> 00:34:54,137
There was a parking lot across
from Ruthie's that is--
767
00:34:54,137 --> 00:34:57,931
The business is still there.
Big O Tires.
768
00:34:57,931 --> 00:35:00,689
People would throw up in there,
in that parking lot,
769
00:35:00,689 --> 00:35:02,448
and break bottles.
770
00:35:02,448 --> 00:35:05,793
After a while I was like,
these people never complain.
771
00:35:05,793 --> 00:35:08,068
They never call the cops.
They never do anything.
772
00:35:08,068 --> 00:35:11,620
After thinking about it,
I'm like, well, they do sell
tires there, so.
773
00:35:11,620 --> 00:35:14,517
We would party right
across the street at
the Big O parking lot.
774
00:35:14,517 --> 00:35:17,793
Someone would roll up
in their Chevy Nova,
775
00:35:17,793 --> 00:35:20,241
crack the trunk,
and there'd be coolers of beer
776
00:35:20,241 --> 00:35:23,241
and bottles of Jack
and what not.
And we all hung out.
777
00:35:23,241 --> 00:35:27,310
Half the bands
would wait with us
and drink with us, and then,
778
00:35:27,310 --> 00:35:29,068
Oh, got to go into the show.
779
00:35:29,068 --> 00:35:31,862
Well, Exodus shows at
Ruthie's were really crazy.
780
00:35:31,862 --> 00:35:33,965
I mean, I don't think I ever
paid once to get into the show.
781
00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:35,862
Wes would be sitting
at the door.
782
00:35:35,862 --> 00:35:38,793
I would walk by, and he'd
just kind of go like that.
783
00:35:38,793 --> 00:35:40,965
Connie, Pam,
784
00:35:40,965 --> 00:35:42,965
Rebecca, Leah,
785
00:35:42,965 --> 00:35:44,551
those girls were something else,
786
00:35:44,551 --> 00:35:46,862
because there weren't
very many of us at all.
787
00:35:46,862 --> 00:35:49,551
[Conie Taylor] We would go
to the bar. We would sit down.
We would drink.
788
00:35:49,551 --> 00:35:51,413
We didn't have IDs.
We weren't old enough.
789
00:35:51,413 --> 00:35:53,655
But it just sort of happened.
790
00:35:53,655 --> 00:35:56,482
You know, people were dancing,
and the bands were
playing so hard.
791
00:35:56,482 --> 00:35:59,068
It became very human, very fast.
792
00:35:59,068 --> 00:36:00,620
[Gary]
That's when we found our home,
793
00:36:00,620 --> 00:36:02,896
because it was kind of
where we were from.
794
00:36:02,896 --> 00:36:05,206
You know, Rick and Paul
were both from Berkeley.
795
00:36:05,206 --> 00:36:06,482
Robbie was from Berkeley.
796
00:36:06,482 --> 00:36:08,793
Tom and I were from San Pablo.
797
00:36:08,793 --> 00:36:11,034
[Brian]
Exodus at Ruthie's Inn,
a random person would
798
00:36:11,034 --> 00:36:13,068
just record it and send
it off to our pen pal friends.
799
00:36:13,068 --> 00:36:16,172
So you know,
pre "Bonded by Blood,"
800
00:36:16,172 --> 00:36:19,551
this is how
Exodus's music got out.
801
00:36:25,448 --> 00:36:27,655
[Alex Skolnick]
It very quickly became a scene.
802
00:36:27,655 --> 00:36:30,586
It was the place to go.
They have great kamikazes.
803
00:36:30,586 --> 00:36:32,551
You knew never knew what
was going to happen.
804
00:36:32,551 --> 00:36:34,758
You know, some crazy shit
was going to jump off.
805
00:36:34,758 --> 00:36:36,965
Of course, I was young,
and we were all just raging.
806
00:36:36,965 --> 00:36:38,620
It was a party.
807
00:36:38,620 --> 00:36:40,482
[Harold]
The place was really dark,
808
00:36:40,482 --> 00:36:42,862
and you kind of get away
with almost anything there.
809
00:36:42,862 --> 00:36:46,103
I'll never forget one time
going through the crowd,
headbanging and going crazy.
810
00:36:46,103 --> 00:36:47,517
I actually tripped
on some people.
811
00:36:47,517 --> 00:36:50,034
There were some
people having sex.
812
00:36:50,034 --> 00:36:52,172
The shows were classic, dude.
I mean,
813
00:36:52,172 --> 00:36:53,793
it was like Ruthie's Inn,
814
00:36:53,793 --> 00:36:56,379
so hot and humid in there.
The walls would be sweating.
815
00:36:56,379 --> 00:36:59,551
People are hanging off of
plumbing pipes and sprinklers,
816
00:36:59,551 --> 00:37:01,206
and toilets were getting broke.
817
00:37:01,206 --> 00:37:03,413
The place would just
get fucking destroyed,
818
00:37:03,413 --> 00:37:06,172
and they'd still have us back
like two weeks later.
819
00:37:06,172 --> 00:37:09,517
Toby Rage, Andy Anderson,
Lonnie Hunolt...
820
00:37:09,517 --> 00:37:11,275
You know, we'd all take turns.
821
00:37:11,275 --> 00:37:13,551
We called it bowling ball.
822
00:37:13,551 --> 00:37:15,655
It's where people jump on stage,
823
00:37:15,655 --> 00:37:18,758
and you're crouched in
a ducking position by the drums.
824
00:37:18,758 --> 00:37:21,827
You get a running start
and just linebacker them
as hard as you could
825
00:37:21,827 --> 00:37:24,655
down into the crowd, you know?
That was fun.
826
00:37:24,655 --> 00:37:27,275
We were hanging out at
the Big O across the street.
827
00:37:27,275 --> 00:37:28,862
This cat Toby Rage comes up,
828
00:37:28,862 --> 00:37:31,758
and he sees Leroy with
his Mike Tereo hair
829
00:37:31,758 --> 00:37:33,448
and his white Capezios.
830
00:37:33,448 --> 00:37:35,448
And he walks up,
and he just goes...
831
00:37:35,448 --> 00:37:36,827
[spits]
832
00:37:36,827 --> 00:37:38,517
Nice shoes.
833
00:37:38,517 --> 00:37:39,724
Toby Rage was,
834
00:37:39,724 --> 00:37:42,137
again, I never saw
him break character.
835
00:37:42,137 --> 00:37:47,172
I don't know how he...
lived at that level.
836
00:37:47,172 --> 00:37:52,034
I just remember feeling
claustrophobic in there,
837
00:37:52,034 --> 00:37:54,241
but if the music was good,
that was all that mattered.
838
00:37:54,241 --> 00:37:56,793
[Mark Osegueda]
Exodus just owned, and the pits
were violent as hell.
839
00:37:56,793 --> 00:37:58,034
It was just--
840
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,965
It was glorious.
841
00:38:00,965 --> 00:38:03,551
[Brian] You know,
Exodus's group of close friends,
842
00:38:03,551 --> 00:38:05,448
you know, they were called
the Slay Team,
843
00:38:05,448 --> 00:38:08,620
and literally if someone
showed up at Ruthie's Inn
844
00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:11,655
wearing a Motley Crue
or a hair metal band shirt,
845
00:38:11,655 --> 00:38:14,448
they would literally tear
the shirt off the kid's back.
846
00:38:14,448 --> 00:38:17,965
They would cut strips off
of the shirt and tie
them around their wrists,
847
00:38:17,965 --> 00:38:21,862
like scalps, and those aren't
fucking friendship strips.
848
00:38:21,862 --> 00:38:23,551
Those are like war trophies.
849
00:38:23,551 --> 00:38:25,517
[Harold]Lizzie Green,
Baloff's girlfriend,
850
00:38:25,517 --> 00:38:27,172
actually did a comic book
that was based on the Slay Team.
851
00:38:27,172 --> 00:38:30,068
It was just them going out
and killing posers, literally.
852
00:38:30,068 --> 00:38:34,000
Paul and I had this idea that
we were going to make money.
853
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,586
So I draw up this whole comic.
854
00:38:36,586 --> 00:38:38,724
She would sit there
and draw these little comics,
855
00:38:38,724 --> 00:38:42,586
which have now become
the Slay Team comics,
which are famous.
856
00:38:42,586 --> 00:38:45,931
"I can't believe this.
That car just ran him down.
857
00:38:45,931 --> 00:38:48,068
Someone wants to kill us all.
858
00:38:48,068 --> 00:38:52,413
It's the Slay Team,
and they will kill us
all unless we strike back."
859
00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:54,413
So we start a poser war.
860
00:38:54,413 --> 00:38:57,827
This is actually a real person.
We called him Poser Bob.
861
00:38:57,827 --> 00:38:59,827
I don't remember what
Bob's real name is.
862
00:38:59,827 --> 00:39:02,827
He did dress like this.
He had no problem being a poser.
863
00:39:02,827 --> 00:39:04,758
[record scratches]
864
00:39:04,758 --> 00:39:07,862
[narrator]By the way folks,
she's now a nuclear scientist.
865
00:39:07,862 --> 00:39:11,827
I research explosives
for the government,
is the party line,
866
00:39:11,827 --> 00:39:15,551
but I blow shit up for
the government is my line.
867
00:39:15,551 --> 00:39:18,448
[Baloff]
868
00:39:18,448 --> 00:39:20,172
[Mark Devito]
Toby Rage, I mean,
869
00:39:20,172 --> 00:39:23,172
it's like nobody was
going to try posing
870
00:39:23,172 --> 00:39:26,724
if all of a sudden
you were going to get
a Converse footprint
871
00:39:26,724 --> 00:39:28,517
on the side of your head.
872
00:39:28,517 --> 00:39:31,620
I got off the plane the one day,
went to Ruthie's the next day.
873
00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:33,724
People were jumping
on the PA stack.
874
00:39:33,724 --> 00:39:35,758
They were jumping off
into the crowd.
875
00:39:35,758 --> 00:39:38,379
People were standing with
their backs against the stage,
876
00:39:38,379 --> 00:39:39,620
holding their hands like this,
877
00:39:39,620 --> 00:39:41,551
throwing people on.
878
00:39:41,551 --> 00:39:44,724
We had never seen anything
like that in Europe.
879
00:39:44,724 --> 00:39:46,620
[man]
880
00:39:56,965 --> 00:39:58,517
[Pam Behrhorst]
No stage diving for me.
881
00:39:58,517 --> 00:40:00,482
Most of the time
I stood just on the outside
882
00:40:00,482 --> 00:40:03,758
and let some other guys push
the guys in the middle.
883
00:40:03,758 --> 00:40:06,172
Just close enough so you could
still see the band but not get,
884
00:40:06,172 --> 00:40:08,000
you know, run over.
885
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,103
Ruthie's was insane.
886
00:40:10,103 --> 00:40:11,896
We were never real crazy about
887
00:40:11,896 --> 00:40:15,137
keeping people offstage
at that point, you know?
888
00:40:15,137 --> 00:40:17,793
That's what they did, and they
had a damn good time doing it.
889
00:40:17,793 --> 00:40:20,379
If you were a poser or
a dippy girl or something
like that,
890
00:40:20,379 --> 00:40:22,620
they could be terrifying,
but if you were
891
00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:25,793
a friend of theirs
and understood them
or accepted them,
892
00:40:25,793 --> 00:40:27,448
their hearts were so big.
893
00:40:27,448 --> 00:40:30,275
[Brian] One of those defining
moments in any scene,
894
00:40:30,275 --> 00:40:34,448
where that was the show
that inspired the lyrics
to "Bonded by Blood."
895
00:40:34,448 --> 00:40:37,034
I remember it was us and some
rock band playing, right?
896
00:40:37,034 --> 00:40:40,379
And the rock band,
they were up there rocking out
for their sister's band
897
00:40:40,379 --> 00:40:43,068
or whatever with
their drink glasses and left
them on the front of the stage.
898
00:40:43,068 --> 00:40:47,000
When we come on, everybody
starts smashing all the glass.
899
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,586
So people's hands got cut,
900
00:40:48,586 --> 00:40:50,206
-so there was literally--
-Blood upon the stage.
901
00:40:50,206 --> 00:40:51,965
There's literally
blood all over.
902
00:40:51,965 --> 00:40:55,758
And I remember this one girl who
was there to see the rock band
903
00:40:55,758 --> 00:40:58,000
must've saw something
she liked about the band,
904
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,793
and she was up front
and was rocking out, you know,
this is kind of cool.
905
00:41:00,793 --> 00:41:04,482
And Paul reached down
and got a big smear,
a handful of blood,
906
00:41:04,482 --> 00:41:06,275
and just wiped it down her face.
907
00:41:06,275 --> 00:41:10,172
And she just ran out,
ah, screaming.
908
00:41:10,172 --> 00:41:13,758
[Brian] Bonded by Blood
is written by a band
who were in the thick of it.
909
00:41:13,758 --> 00:41:16,517
That song and that album
resonate so much because
910
00:41:16,517 --> 00:41:19,241
it's a product of the scene.
911
00:41:19,241 --> 00:41:21,793
[man singing]
912
00:41:28,965 --> 00:41:31,310
[Brian] You know, if you
listen to it, it's almost
like a documentary in some ways
913
00:41:31,310 --> 00:41:35,931
about those brief years
when this whole Bay Area scene
was just getting going,
914
00:41:35,931 --> 00:41:38,517
like '83 to '85.
915
00:41:38,517 --> 00:41:40,689
[heavy metal music plays]
916
00:42:04,517 --> 00:42:06,551
[narrator] Nobody,
and I mean nobody,
917
00:42:06,551 --> 00:42:08,275
had ever seen
anything like...
918
00:42:08,275 --> 00:42:10,000
Slayer.
919
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,172
[thrash metal music plays]
920
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,103
I remember thinking this
is really interesting, okay?
921
00:42:19,103 --> 00:42:21,551
They're from
Southern California,
922
00:42:21,551 --> 00:42:23,758
but they're faster than...
[chuckles]
923
00:42:23,758 --> 00:42:25,068
any band I've heard.
924
00:42:25,068 --> 00:42:27,068
The imagery, the speed,
925
00:42:27,068 --> 00:42:31,275
and just the heaviness of it all
just kind of took me into this.
926
00:42:31,275 --> 00:42:33,344
Fucking Slayer.
927
00:42:45,034 --> 00:42:48,724
[Dave Lonbardo]
When we went to the Bay Area,
that's where we felt at home,
928
00:42:48,724 --> 00:42:50,689
because L.A. was saturated
929
00:42:50,689 --> 00:42:52,896
and Hollywood was saturated
with glam rock.
930
00:42:52,896 --> 00:42:54,379
We all know what that is,
931
00:42:54,379 --> 00:42:57,137
compared to thrashers
and metal heads.
932
00:42:57,137 --> 00:42:58,137
We were opposite.
933
00:42:58,137 --> 00:42:59,689
When we played,
934
00:42:59,689 --> 00:43:02,137
all I remember
is the enthusiasm of the crowd,
935
00:43:02,137 --> 00:43:04,724
their intensity.
Kids jumping on the stage,
936
00:43:04,724 --> 00:43:07,758
and then they'd just
start walking on people's heads
and shoulders, you know,
937
00:43:07,758 --> 00:43:10,551
because everybody
was just stuck together.
938
00:43:10,551 --> 00:43:12,862
We went up north and did
a show with Exodus,
939
00:43:12,862 --> 00:43:15,379
which blew me away.
940
00:43:15,379 --> 00:43:17,000
[Gary] There's nothing
wrong with imports.
941
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,896
The Bay Area was the epicenter
of the thrash scene,
942
00:43:19,896 --> 00:43:24,103
and if your own region was not
welcoming of you, we would be.
943
00:43:24,103 --> 00:43:26,206
Being from L.A.,
nobody did what we did.
944
00:43:26,206 --> 00:43:28,344
So to be there, hear them,
945
00:43:28,344 --> 00:43:33,068
and think, "oh, my god,
these guys are doing
the same thing we are."
946
00:43:33,068 --> 00:43:34,655
Really heavy music, awesome.
947
00:43:34,655 --> 00:43:37,344
The sounds are awesome.
The band is fucking awesome.
948
00:43:37,344 --> 00:43:39,689
The guys were really cool,
and we got along great.
949
00:43:39,689 --> 00:43:42,241
L.A. was more where
the hair metal was going down.
950
00:43:42,241 --> 00:43:43,931
So we're kind of in O.C.,
951
00:43:43,931 --> 00:43:46,931
and the O.C. crowd was very
similar to the Bay Area crowd,
952
00:43:46,931 --> 00:43:50,344
but the Bay Area crowd
was far more advanced.
953
00:43:50,344 --> 00:43:53,310
I first became aware of
Slayer when Brian Slagel,
954
00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:57,310
who runs Metal Bay Records,
sent me an advanced tape
of Show No Mercy,
955
00:43:57,310 --> 00:43:58,482
their first album.
956
00:43:58,482 --> 00:43:59,931
It was almost like a demo.
957
00:43:59,931 --> 00:44:01,620
Again, it was at the time when
958
00:44:01,620 --> 00:44:04,310
all we cared about
were bands that played fast.
959
00:44:04,310 --> 00:44:10,241
Slayer came up here and played
their first three shows
in January '84,
960
00:44:10,241 --> 00:44:12,655
and the first one was at
the Keystone Berkeley.
961
00:44:12,655 --> 00:44:16,620
If you look at the back cover
of Show No Mercy,
they were wearing eyeliner.
962
00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:18,758
Why do you wear makeup?
[laughs]
963
00:44:18,758 --> 00:44:20,413
You can't call it glam,
964
00:44:20,413 --> 00:44:23,344
and it wasn't really makeup,
but it was eyeliner.
965
00:44:23,344 --> 00:44:25,965
[Tom Araya] Somebody made
the remark, "Why are you guys
wearing that makeup?"
966
00:44:25,965 --> 00:44:28,379
My thought is I'm not
really wearing makeup.
967
00:44:28,379 --> 00:44:32,310
You don't need to be wearing
that stuff, man.
968
00:44:32,310 --> 00:44:34,310
They're all in makeup,
969
00:44:34,310 --> 00:44:37,689
and they have the spandex
and all the trip going on.
970
00:44:37,689 --> 00:44:40,206
I think Kerry might've
had spikes at that point.
971
00:44:40,206 --> 00:44:42,758
Whether you don't know me,
whether you don't know
the guitar,
972
00:44:42,758 --> 00:44:44,862
whether you don't
know much about Slayer,
you know those nails.
973
00:44:44,862 --> 00:44:48,793
They had some shit going on that
I was-- "What the fuck is this?"
974
00:44:48,793 --> 00:44:52,862
People like Andy Anderson
and Toby Rage, like,
the original Slay Team.
975
00:44:52,862 --> 00:44:56,103
They noticed it and started a
chant of "take off the makeup."
976
00:44:56,103 --> 00:45:00,413
Andy even went as far
as going to the men's room
and getting paper towels.
977
00:45:00,413 --> 00:45:02,000
We waved the
paper towels at them.
978
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,586
Slayer did two shows.
979
00:45:03,586 --> 00:45:05,724
They played the
Keystone Berkeley
the night before
980
00:45:05,724 --> 00:45:08,655
and then played Ruthie's
the following night with Exodus.
981
00:45:08,655 --> 00:45:12,000
The Keystone Berkeley show
was the last show they
wore the makeup,
982
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,379
because we told them that shit
won't wash at Ruthie's Inn.
983
00:45:15,379 --> 00:45:17,655
That was it for me.
Took all that shit off.
984
00:45:17,655 --> 00:45:19,551
Was like, "Fuck it,
I don't need that shit."
985
00:45:19,551 --> 00:45:21,931
So I just stuck with
black shirts and leather pants.
986
00:45:21,931 --> 00:45:24,275
[laughs]
987
00:45:24,275 --> 00:45:27,482
[Greg] And after the
Keystone Berkeley show,
we destroyed their hotel.
988
00:45:27,482 --> 00:45:29,034
It was a swath of destruction.
989
00:45:29,034 --> 00:45:31,482
It had to be admired
and appreciated.
990
00:45:31,482 --> 00:45:32,655
It was awesome.
991
00:45:34,655 --> 00:45:37,448
[Fred Cotton]
They had a hotel room at
the Berkeley Plaza Hotel,
992
00:45:37,448 --> 00:45:39,068
and we just destroyed
that place.
993
00:45:39,068 --> 00:45:42,000
Showed up with Tom Hunting,
994
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,034
and these guys were nailing
pizza to the ceiling, man,
995
00:45:45,034 --> 00:45:48,000
and jamming everything
they could in the toilet.
996
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,275
You know, we actually tunneled
a hole through the wall
997
00:45:51,275 --> 00:45:53,758
into the manager's hotel room.
998
00:45:53,758 --> 00:45:57,827
They trashed this motel room
that I had under my name,
999
00:45:57,827 --> 00:46:00,620
because I was the
oldest guy in the band.
1000
00:46:00,620 --> 00:46:03,655
So we had two rooms,
and they trashed them.
1001
00:46:03,655 --> 00:46:06,344
Not too many years ago
now Kerry and I were
having a conversation,
1002
00:46:06,344 --> 00:46:07,793
and somehow that came up.
He was like,
1003
00:46:07,793 --> 00:46:09,586
"Yeah, I got in a lot
of trouble for that."
1004
00:46:09,586 --> 00:46:11,137
That was kind of our
first introduction
1005
00:46:11,137 --> 00:46:13,689
to traveling away from home.
1006
00:46:15,827 --> 00:46:17,482
[narrator] In 1984,
1007
00:46:17,482 --> 00:46:19,482
Wes Robinson organized
a mini-festival
1008
00:46:19,482 --> 00:46:21,724
bringing together
various types of bands.
1009
00:46:21,724 --> 00:46:25,931
Although called Eastern
Front, the festival was
affectionately known as
1010
00:46:25,931 --> 00:46:27,068
Day on the Dirt,
1011
00:46:27,068 --> 00:46:28,827
a sly nod towards Bill Graham's
1012
00:46:28,827 --> 00:46:31,206
much larger Day
on the Green shows.
1013
00:46:31,206 --> 00:46:35,034
[man] It was how we would
envision what a day on
the green should be,
1014
00:46:35,034 --> 00:46:38,413
because these were our heroes.
These were our bands.
1015
00:46:38,413 --> 00:46:42,068
[Brian] And Wes Robinson,
who ran Ruthie's Inn,
organized it.
1016
00:46:42,068 --> 00:46:45,448
It was kind of like
the Woodstock moment of
the Bay Area scene.
1017
00:46:45,448 --> 00:46:49,172
He wanted people to be able
to do what they wanted to do
1018
00:46:49,172 --> 00:46:53,068
and hopefully make
some money at it,
1019
00:46:53,068 --> 00:46:55,206
and if you didn't
make any money,
1020
00:46:55,206 --> 00:46:57,344
at least there was the show.
1021
00:46:57,344 --> 00:47:00,379
[Mark D] This was all at an
aquatic park, which is at
the bottom of Berkeley,
1022
00:47:00,379 --> 00:47:05,206
right across this estuary
that flanks the 80 Interstate.
1023
00:47:05,206 --> 00:47:06,724
The lineup was...
1024
00:47:06,724 --> 00:47:08,931
Slayer, Exodus,
1025
00:47:08,931 --> 00:47:11,758
Possessed, Suicidal Tendencies.
1026
00:47:11,758 --> 00:47:13,793
It's kind of a defining
moment historically,
1027
00:47:13,793 --> 00:47:15,413
because that's
a crossover moment.
1028
00:47:15,413 --> 00:47:17,655
Like, Suicidal was
a hardcore band,
1029
00:47:17,655 --> 00:47:19,896
and they were playing
with Exodus and Slayer,
who are metal bands.
1030
00:47:19,896 --> 00:47:22,551
I know for a fact that
the band could not play L.A.
1031
00:47:22,551 --> 00:47:24,586
when I first joined the band.
1032
00:47:24,586 --> 00:47:26,275
And uh, basically
1033
00:47:26,275 --> 00:47:29,586
Suicidal Tendencies
was banned from Los Angeles.
1034
00:47:29,586 --> 00:47:31,827
Everyone sort of went like,
"Hey, we're not that different."
1035
00:47:31,827 --> 00:47:34,724
We love extreme music.
We fucking hate glam rock.
1036
00:47:34,724 --> 00:47:38,068
We hated all the bullshit
about poser-type shit.
1037
00:47:38,068 --> 00:47:39,586
It was kind of
a defining moment,
1038
00:47:39,586 --> 00:47:41,379
because everyone who
was there were like,
1039
00:47:41,379 --> 00:47:43,862
"Wow, this is pretty cool."
1040
00:47:43,862 --> 00:47:45,551
And you can see all the photos.
1041
00:47:45,551 --> 00:47:49,137
I mean, all those guys
were fast friends already,
1042
00:47:49,137 --> 00:47:52,758
and if not, that solidified it.
1043
00:47:52,758 --> 00:47:54,620
[Tim] That was one
of the first shows where
1044
00:47:54,620 --> 00:47:57,172
I started seeing the camaraderie
of the bands and stuff,
1045
00:47:57,172 --> 00:48:01,000
and I think that's one of
the things that shows
in the pictures, too.
1046
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,068
[Robert Trujillo]
It was just amazing, you know,
the spirit up north,
1047
00:48:04,068 --> 00:48:06,448
experiencing that
positive energy.
1048
00:48:06,448 --> 00:48:08,482
And for me it was all brand new,
1049
00:48:08,482 --> 00:48:11,551
because again, I didn't even
get a chance to play L.A. yet
1050
00:48:11,551 --> 00:48:14,310
with this band
that was from L.A.
1051
00:48:14,310 --> 00:48:17,758
[Brian] It was a fast
and furious pit.
We had plenty of room.
1052
00:48:17,758 --> 00:48:21,000
The dirt was flying,
and it was a great show.
1053
00:48:23,068 --> 00:48:25,896
[Dave Mustaine]
1054
00:48:25,896 --> 00:48:28,724
[narrator]Dave Mustaine began
his new band, Megadeth,
1055
00:48:28,724 --> 00:48:30,344
with a vengeance
1056
00:48:30,344 --> 00:48:31,862
and immediately played
the Bay Area,
1057
00:48:31,862 --> 00:48:35,275
where he was welcomed
with open arms.
1058
00:48:35,275 --> 00:48:38,000
This is Megadeth's first demo
1059
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,206
that Dave recorded after getting
1060
00:48:41,206 --> 00:48:43,034
the original Megadeth together.
1061
00:48:43,034 --> 00:48:45,793
He sent them out to maybe
a half dozen fans and people.
1062
00:48:45,793 --> 00:48:48,137
He handwrote the track
listing on it.
1063
00:48:48,137 --> 00:48:50,068
Dave had this
friend Brian Lew
1064
00:48:50,068 --> 00:48:53,000
who offered to run our fan club,
1065
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,517
which basically consisted
of a post office box.
1066
00:48:55,517 --> 00:48:58,172
One day this letter
shows up that says,
1067
00:48:58,172 --> 00:49:02,000
"Hey, Dave, I hope
your new shit's faster
than Metallica."
1068
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,931
And that night, I kid you not,
1069
00:49:03,931 --> 00:49:06,620
we went to rehearsal
and sped every song up
1070
00:49:06,620 --> 00:49:09,758
by 10 to 20 beats per minute.
I mean, every song.
1071
00:49:09,758 --> 00:49:11,310
So things like
"Skull Beneath the Skin,"
which were like...
1072
00:49:11,310 --> 00:49:13,275
[vocalizing bass]
1073
00:49:14,965 --> 00:49:16,310
Kind of this Sabbath groove...
1074
00:49:16,310 --> 00:49:18,344
[vocalizing drums]
1075
00:49:19,827 --> 00:49:21,793
[guitar plays]
1076
00:49:27,862 --> 00:49:30,758
[man] We'd been to
the Bay Area enough times.
I couldn't tell you how many,
1077
00:49:30,758 --> 00:49:33,931
but we'd been there enough to
where me showing up in Megadeth
1078
00:49:33,931 --> 00:49:36,034
is going to make people
think of Slayer, too.
1079
00:49:36,034 --> 00:49:38,206
I saw Mustaine
playing Metallica.
1080
00:49:38,206 --> 00:49:41,965
Me and Jeff would both sit
in the crowd and go,
"How's he do that?
1081
00:49:41,965 --> 00:49:44,758
How's he playing that
fucking shit and not
looking at his fingers."
1082
00:49:44,758 --> 00:49:46,275
You know, we would just be
amazed that he's just up
there ripping,
1083
00:49:46,275 --> 00:49:47,827
looking over there.
1084
00:49:47,827 --> 00:49:50,655
So I was flattered
when Mustaine came calling.
1085
00:49:50,655 --> 00:49:53,241
[Dave]
There's a lot of crazy folklore
1086
00:49:53,241 --> 00:49:58,344
about those first couple
of days, weeks, and months
after I left New York.
1087
00:49:58,344 --> 00:49:59,655
When I got on the bus,
1088
00:49:59,655 --> 00:50:02,137
I rode all the way
to California.
1089
00:50:02,137 --> 00:50:04,103
Did a lot of soul-searching.
1090
00:50:04,103 --> 00:50:06,482
I had already started
writing lyrics.
1091
00:50:06,482 --> 00:50:09,379
The first lyric I wrote
was to the song
"Set the World Afire,"
1092
00:50:09,379 --> 00:50:10,965
which was called Megadeth.
1093
00:50:10,965 --> 00:50:13,655
And I saw a piece of paper
on the floor of the bus
1094
00:50:13,655 --> 00:50:16,827
that was from
Senator Alan Cranston.
1095
00:50:16,827 --> 00:50:18,448
It was a handbill that
he had put out that said,
1096
00:50:18,448 --> 00:50:20,586
"The arsenal of Megadeath
can't be ready."
1097
00:50:20,586 --> 00:50:22,862
He was talking about
nuclear armament.
1098
00:50:22,862 --> 00:50:24,586
Arsenal of Megadeath,
that's a great line,
1099
00:50:24,586 --> 00:50:26,931
so I wrote it down
and put it in the song.
1100
00:50:26,931 --> 00:50:29,379
Didn't think that,
you know, that would
one day end up being the title.
1101
00:50:29,379 --> 00:50:31,000
My first show was with Megadeth,
1102
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,413
and I remember the first time
watching Mustaine play.
1103
00:50:32,413 --> 00:50:34,034
I just couldn't believe it.
1104
00:50:34,034 --> 00:50:35,586
As a band,
that was the first place
1105
00:50:35,586 --> 00:50:38,068
that we went up
there was Ruthie's.
1106
00:50:38,068 --> 00:50:41,620
That was interesting,
because Ruthie's was so small,
1107
00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:44,206
we'd built this crazy stage
over at Kerry's house.
1108
00:50:44,206 --> 00:50:48,068
You know, I'd ask Kerry
if he would help us until
we'd find a permanent player,
1109
00:50:48,068 --> 00:50:51,862
and we built the stage
because I wanted this
war scene kind of thing.
1110
00:50:51,862 --> 00:50:54,896
When we got up there,
the roof was about this tall,
1111
00:50:54,896 --> 00:50:57,827
and we're trying to
figure out how we're going to
get all our stuff in there.
1112
00:50:57,827 --> 00:50:59,517
It's like, well shit.
1113
00:50:59,517 --> 00:51:01,379
And borrowing every marshal
in the community
1114
00:51:01,379 --> 00:51:03,310
and everything we could
buy out of the recycler.
1115
00:51:03,310 --> 00:51:05,413
You know, you got to kind of
keep your head down.
1116
00:51:05,413 --> 00:51:08,517
If you jump up in the air,
you're going to stick your
head in a light socket.
1117
00:51:08,517 --> 00:51:11,137
He's like, "I'm going to put
together this super group
1118
00:51:11,137 --> 00:51:15,103
that is just going to take
fucking no prisoners, man."
1119
00:51:15,103 --> 00:51:16,448
[heavy metal music plays]
1120
00:51:30,172 --> 00:51:33,655
What I noticed around town
is there were a lot of
people posing, primping,
1121
00:51:33,655 --> 00:51:37,206
and wearing their
studded wristbands from the
shops on Hollywood Boulevard.
1122
00:51:37,206 --> 00:51:41,310
And everybody looked like
Vince Neil or David Lee Roth,
but Dave was the real deal.
1123
00:51:41,310 --> 00:51:45,517
[speed metal music plays]
1124
00:51:45,517 --> 00:51:48,827
Everybody was really
surprised that Mustaine
got booted out of the band,
1125
00:51:48,827 --> 00:51:50,931
because back then he
was almost like the frontman.
1126
00:51:50,931 --> 00:51:52,931
He really had something to
prove after he left Metallica.
1127
00:51:52,931 --> 00:51:55,068
It was incredible how
quick he got it together.
1128
00:51:55,068 --> 00:51:58,793
Megadeth was a band
that was conceptualized
before it was ever a band.
1129
00:51:58,793 --> 00:52:02,758
It was an architectural
blueprint of what
the band was going to be,
1130
00:52:02,758 --> 00:52:07,931
and I think because
that was drafted in Dave
apartment's and my apartment,
1131
00:52:07,931 --> 00:52:11,620
we've had this vision
of what we've been aiming for.
1132
00:52:19,172 --> 00:52:20,413
It's really creative.
1133
00:52:20,413 --> 00:52:21,965
It's a great blend,
1134
00:52:21,965 --> 00:52:24,827
and it's got that punk energy.
1135
00:52:24,827 --> 00:52:26,517
[plays speed guitar]
1136
00:52:29,206 --> 00:52:32,000
When we debuted
the band in the Bay Area,
1137
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,206
to see that frenzy happening.
1138
00:52:34,206 --> 00:52:37,551
A kid reached up and
actually grabs he string
and breaks it off my bass,
1139
00:52:37,551 --> 00:52:39,620
right in the middle of the song.
1140
00:52:39,620 --> 00:52:41,724
I'd never seen
anything like this,
1141
00:52:41,724 --> 00:52:45,172
and people were literally
bleeding on the stage
from headbanging
1142
00:52:45,172 --> 00:52:46,586
and thrashing down front.
1143
00:52:46,586 --> 00:52:50,344
You could feel almost
a tension, you know?
1144
00:52:50,344 --> 00:52:52,000
He's up there trying
to prove himself.
1145
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,551
[indistinct chatter]
1146
00:52:59,517 --> 00:53:02,620
[Brian] They moved
here maybe January '83.
1147
00:53:02,620 --> 00:53:04,206
They were gone in April.
1148
00:53:04,206 --> 00:53:06,724
They came back
for I think a month in June,
1149
00:53:06,724 --> 00:53:08,655
after recording finished.
1150
00:53:08,655 --> 00:53:11,724
Then they were on tour.
So that first year
that they quote-unquote
1151
00:53:11,724 --> 00:53:13,275
moved to the Bay Area,
1152
00:53:13,275 --> 00:53:15,758
they were probably
only here a couple months.
1153
00:53:15,758 --> 00:53:19,137
We really had just come
from out of the underground.
1154
00:53:19,137 --> 00:53:21,206
We recorded Kill Em All.
1155
00:53:21,206 --> 00:53:26,310
We ran back to San Francisco
to give it to all the people
who were our core group.
1156
00:53:26,310 --> 00:53:29,103
It was our opportunity to
1157
00:53:29,103 --> 00:53:31,551
put the scene on
the fucking map.
1158
00:53:31,551 --> 00:53:34,413
Kill Em Allcame out in
December of '83, you know?
1159
00:53:34,413 --> 00:53:37,379
In our second issue
I made the review.
1160
00:53:37,379 --> 00:53:39,655
You know, we had record reviews.
1161
00:53:39,655 --> 00:53:41,758
I said Metallica are going
to get a whole page.
1162
00:53:41,758 --> 00:53:44,482
Nobody knew at the time
how big they're going to get,
1163
00:53:44,482 --> 00:53:46,793
but I said,
"This band is a killer."
1164
00:53:46,793 --> 00:53:48,827
So I made the headline,
"Metal Album of the Year:
1165
00:53:48,827 --> 00:53:50,862
"Kill 'Em All."
1166
00:53:50,862 --> 00:53:55,000
[narrator]Exodus recorded
their definitive
thrash metal masterpiece,
1167
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,827
Bonded by Blood, in 1984.
1168
00:53:57,827 --> 00:54:01,931
Bonded by Blood?
How do you not like
Bonded by Blood?
1169
00:54:01,931 --> 00:54:03,482
I love Exodus,
1170
00:54:03,482 --> 00:54:05,379
especially from that time.
1171
00:54:05,379 --> 00:54:07,034
That's my favorite
Exodus record.
1172
00:54:07,034 --> 00:54:09,689
"Bonded by Blood" was kind of
more anticipated than
1173
00:54:09,689 --> 00:54:12,172
Kill Em Allin a
lot of ways,
1174
00:54:12,172 --> 00:54:16,379
just because we spent
more time with Exodus
than we did with Metallica.
1175
00:54:16,379 --> 00:54:20,206
Basically I ended up
replacing Kirk.
1176
00:54:20,206 --> 00:54:21,862
We were never in
the studio before,
1177
00:54:21,862 --> 00:54:23,827
so we're learning
the process, you know,
1178
00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:26,689
the whole mike thing and how
to keep the guitars in tune,
1179
00:54:26,689 --> 00:54:28,931
because the mike
hears everything--
1180
00:54:28,931 --> 00:54:32,620
Just learning from
the very ground up
how to record an album.
1181
00:54:32,620 --> 00:54:36,310
When we recorded Bonded by
Bloodat Prairie Sun studios,
1182
00:54:36,310 --> 00:54:38,344
our friends would
come up from the Bay Area,
1183
00:54:38,344 --> 00:54:40,241
and we'd party at night.
1184
00:54:40,241 --> 00:54:41,896
They'd get too drunk,
1185
00:54:41,896 --> 00:54:43,896
and there were fistfights and
windows getting broken.
1186
00:54:43,896 --> 00:54:45,586
The whole thing with
"Bonded by Blood" was it's like,
1187
00:54:45,586 --> 00:54:49,482
it's a chemistry
that five kids had.
1188
00:54:49,482 --> 00:54:51,793
Not knowing nothing
about recording.
1189
00:54:51,793 --> 00:54:54,965
We got nine songs together,
1190
00:54:54,965 --> 00:54:58,275
and we just want
to put everything
we have into these songs
1191
00:54:58,275 --> 00:55:00,793
and just capture this vibe.
1192
00:55:00,793 --> 00:55:04,310
It's the craziest thing.
The very first note, man,
is just like...
1193
00:55:05,103 --> 00:55:06,517
[thrash music plays]
1194
00:55:21,310 --> 00:55:24,206
Bonded by Blood
is an amazing album.
1195
00:55:24,206 --> 00:55:26,068
The riffs, the speed.
1196
00:55:26,068 --> 00:55:27,482
That's my Exodus record.
1197
00:55:27,482 --> 00:55:29,482
That's the Exodus record.
1198
00:55:29,482 --> 00:55:34,172
It captured that kind
of youthful angst and anger.
1199
00:55:34,172 --> 00:55:35,827
That was thrash metal.
1200
00:55:35,827 --> 00:55:37,827
That was a Bay Area
thrash metal record, you know?
1201
00:55:37,827 --> 00:55:40,068
So Kill Em All
and Bonded by Blood
1202
00:55:40,068 --> 00:55:43,482
they're kind of like twins,
in a way.
1203
00:55:43,482 --> 00:55:45,310
To this day,
people are just like, man,
1204
00:55:45,310 --> 00:55:46,965
Bonded by Blood,
forget about it.
1205
00:55:46,965 --> 00:55:49,034
There are quite a few covers
from that period of time
1206
00:55:49,034 --> 00:55:51,068
where you kind of look at them
and are like, wow, really?
1207
00:55:51,068 --> 00:55:52,689
But none the less,
1208
00:55:52,689 --> 00:55:54,793
I mean, what was
inside that sleeve
1209
00:55:54,793 --> 00:55:58,517
was nothing but
pure Bay Area thrash.
1210
00:55:58,517 --> 00:56:01,586
What do you guys do with posers?
1211
00:56:01,586 --> 00:56:03,241
-Poser.
-What?
1212
00:56:03,241 --> 00:56:04,172
That guy's a poser.
1213
00:56:04,172 --> 00:56:05,586
What do you teach them?
1214
00:56:05,586 --> 00:56:07,206
[audience]
A lesson in violence!
1215
00:56:07,206 --> 00:56:08,965
Here's a poser right here.
1216
00:56:08,965 --> 00:56:11,241
Some places don't know
that you kill posers.
1217
00:56:11,241 --> 00:56:13,000
Break a poser's leg.
It makes me smile.
1218
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,379
Posers must die!
1219
00:56:14,379 --> 00:56:16,000
There's only one Paul, man.
1220
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,586
[thrash metal plays]
1221
00:56:19,586 --> 00:56:22,344
[Sven] He's the epitome of
what a singer should be,
1222
00:56:22,344 --> 00:56:23,965
because if you weren't into it,
1223
00:56:23,965 --> 00:56:26,896
he's all, "Pummel that poser."
1224
00:56:26,896 --> 00:56:29,689
He'd go on one of those rants
about killing posers onstage,
1225
00:56:29,689 --> 00:56:31,827
and if there were posers
in the crowd, they worried.
1226
00:56:31,827 --> 00:56:34,793
My grandmother makes
more noise than that!
1227
00:56:34,793 --> 00:56:36,586
[audience screams]
1228
00:56:36,586 --> 00:56:39,000
[both] My grandmother makes more
noise than that, and she's dead.
1229
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,655
He would go to
people's houses and completely
trash their house.
1230
00:56:41,655 --> 00:56:45,827
The Exodus guys would be there,
and Paul would kick people out.
1231
00:56:45,827 --> 00:56:47,931
One of the prerequisites
to getting into the party
1232
00:56:47,931 --> 00:56:50,172
was you had to bring
a two-by-four so you
could destroy the place.
1233
00:56:50,172 --> 00:56:53,344
I remember grabbing
a beer bottle and firing
it straight at the fireplace
1234
00:56:53,344 --> 00:56:55,965
right when we walked in,
and it just erupted.
1235
00:56:55,965 --> 00:56:57,793
[Harold] He kind of got away
with a bunch of stuff,
1236
00:56:57,793 --> 00:56:59,551
stuff that was kind of messed up
actually, to be honest.
1237
00:56:59,551 --> 00:57:02,827
He handcuffed someone
to a tree like this.
1238
00:57:02,827 --> 00:57:05,241
He let a live sewer rat loose
in my house one time.
1239
00:57:05,241 --> 00:57:06,758
We'd cut people's hair.
1240
00:57:06,758 --> 00:57:08,965
If you had a Ratt pin.
1241
00:57:08,965 --> 00:57:10,413
A Bon Jovi shirt.
1242
00:57:10,413 --> 00:57:12,068
A Motley Crue shirt
or something like that.
1243
00:57:12,068 --> 00:57:13,931
He'd strip you right
where you stood.
1244
00:57:13,931 --> 00:57:16,413
I'm gonna slice that shirt up.
We'll slice you with it.
1245
00:57:16,413 --> 00:57:19,310
If that's all he did,
they were lucky.
1246
00:57:19,310 --> 00:57:20,931
I remember his place.
1247
00:57:20,931 --> 00:57:24,000
He lived in just a--
He lived on a concrete slab.
1248
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,689
His wolf lived with him, Bidor.
1249
00:57:25,689 --> 00:57:27,793
Bidor and Paul
were pretty much inseparable.
1250
00:57:27,793 --> 00:57:29,413
He had a house-wrecking party.
1251
00:57:29,413 --> 00:57:32,137
Some pretty crazy shit happened
at these parties.
1252
00:57:32,137 --> 00:57:33,862
A lot of beer, a lot of liquor.
1253
00:57:33,862 --> 00:57:35,137
Pictures getting smashed.
1254
00:57:35,137 --> 00:57:36,620
Walls being kicked
in with holes.
1255
00:57:36,620 --> 00:57:38,344
Just slamming our arms down
the hallways,
1256
00:57:38,344 --> 00:57:40,655
just punching
in all the plaster.
1257
00:57:44,827 --> 00:57:46,068
Houses dismantled,
1258
00:57:46,068 --> 00:57:48,206
you know, piece by piece.
1259
00:57:50,724 --> 00:57:55,310
Paul Baloff passed away
following a stroke in 2002.
1260
00:57:55,310 --> 00:57:59,344
He's beloved by his friends
and metal fans everywhere.
1261
00:58:01,689 --> 00:58:05,034
Paul, for what he lacked
in pure musical talent,
1262
00:58:05,034 --> 00:58:07,896
he had all the drive and passion
that you'd ever want,
1263
00:58:07,896 --> 00:58:10,413
could we have done more
to keep him around?
1264
00:58:10,413 --> 00:58:14,103
Probably yeah, might've been
a failure in attempting it.
1265
00:58:14,103 --> 00:58:16,344
I'm happy.
I've got a million memories
1266
00:58:16,344 --> 00:58:23,068
and five billion photographs
worth of fucking awesome
times to look back on.
1267
00:58:23,068 --> 00:58:26,379
He's like the greatest
thrash metal frontman
of all time,
1268
00:58:26,379 --> 00:58:28,379
and he made one album twice.
1269
00:58:37,275 --> 00:58:40,827
We were all by his bedside
in the hospital,
1270
00:58:40,827 --> 00:58:43,206
and Rick and I lowered
him into the ground.
1271
00:58:43,206 --> 00:58:45,482
Fuck, you know, I miss him.
1272
00:58:50,586 --> 00:58:52,206
The legend.
1273
00:58:52,206 --> 00:58:53,206
I miss him every day.
1274
00:58:53,206 --> 00:58:54,482
See you, buddy.
1275
00:59:00,965 --> 00:59:02,655
[narrator]
In the mid 1980s,
1276
00:59:02,655 --> 00:59:04,724
Lars and James lived
at the infamous
1277
00:59:04,724 --> 00:59:07,448
Metallica mansion
in El Cerrito.
1278
00:59:07,448 --> 00:59:09,275
Yes, the Metalla-mansion,
1279
00:59:09,275 --> 00:59:13,517
and that is certainly not one
of our cars right there.
1280
00:59:13,517 --> 00:59:15,724
That Porsche was not parked
there because of us.
1281
00:59:15,724 --> 00:59:18,068
You know, at least with
the Metallica mansion,
1282
00:59:18,068 --> 00:59:21,620
it was literally almost
a straight shot back
from Ruthie's Inn.
1283
00:59:21,620 --> 00:59:24,000
So if there was a show
or whatever at Ruthie's Inn,
1284
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,758
it was a straight shot
almost down San Pablo Avenue
back to their house.
1285
00:59:28,758 --> 00:59:30,206
Definitely a bachelor pad.
1286
00:59:30,206 --> 00:59:32,413
You don't dare go into
the bedrooms at all.
1287
00:59:32,413 --> 00:59:35,206
The front room's covered
with posters and beer bottles.
1288
00:59:35,206 --> 00:59:39,758
I remember pulling all
the furniture out the
front door right here
1289
00:59:39,758 --> 00:59:41,655
and hosting this party.
1290
00:59:41,655 --> 00:59:45,655
We left the turntable and maybe
a couple chairs, maybe a couch,
1291
00:59:45,655 --> 00:59:47,137
and obviously the booze.
1292
00:59:47,137 --> 00:59:48,620
[laughs]
1293
00:59:48,620 --> 00:59:50,689
So music, booze,
and we would just go insane.
1294
00:59:50,689 --> 00:59:53,896
Wrestling and have these
crazy mosh pits in the house.
1295
00:59:53,896 --> 00:59:56,551
Usually we're out partying
in the streets or whatnot,
1296
00:59:56,551 --> 01:00:00,206
so to actually have a place to
go and hang out was pretty cool.
1297
01:00:05,344 --> 01:00:06,862
Even the Metallica house--
1298
01:00:06,862 --> 01:00:08,689
I think Exodus were
there more than Metallica,
1299
01:00:08,689 --> 01:00:11,448
because they were already
on tour constantly.
1300
01:00:11,448 --> 01:00:14,931
[narrator]While touring, lonely
Metallica members wrote
postcards
1301
01:00:14,931 --> 01:00:17,103
to keep in touch with
the scene back home.
1302
01:00:17,103 --> 01:00:19,379
Aww.
1303
01:00:19,379 --> 01:00:21,275
[Mike] Yeah, postcards, letters,
that was the only way
you could keep in contact.
1304
01:00:21,275 --> 01:00:24,344
We'd get in town
and write down what's happening,
1305
01:00:24,344 --> 01:00:26,172
then just send it off.
1306
01:00:26,172 --> 01:00:29,448
All those early
Ruthie's Inn shows
1307
01:00:29,448 --> 01:00:32,965
that were kind of laying
the foundation for the Bay Area
scene were happening.
1308
01:00:32,965 --> 01:00:34,275
Hey, John, how you doing?
1309
01:00:34,275 --> 01:00:36,793
We're jamming and playing.
1310
01:00:36,793 --> 01:00:40,034
Okay, we're going to go party,
go drinking.
1311
01:00:40,034 --> 01:00:41,344
Then you'd flip it over.
1312
01:00:41,344 --> 01:00:42,931
Hey, John, it's 2:00 AM.
1313
01:00:42,931 --> 01:00:45,586
We're here. We're ranging.
We're getting drunk.
1314
01:00:45,586 --> 01:00:48,206
We're drinking beers
and hanging out with Venom.
1315
01:00:48,206 --> 01:00:50,517
Metal up your ass,
right-stack Marshall,
1316
01:00:50,517 --> 01:00:52,620
Lars Ulrich,
drummer in parentheses.
1317
01:00:52,620 --> 01:00:55,103
In hindsight, it was probably
them dealing with all the shit
1318
01:00:55,103 --> 01:00:58,241
that was happening with them.
You know, they were going
to the next level,
1319
01:00:58,241 --> 01:01:00,103
thousand of miles
away from home.
1320
01:01:00,103 --> 01:01:01,931
Being away from home,
being away from your friends,
1321
01:01:01,931 --> 01:01:05,137
being away from your girlfriend.
It was a big deal.
1322
01:01:05,137 --> 01:01:06,724
And they liked to write letters.
1323
01:01:06,724 --> 01:01:08,724
You know, back then we
all wrote letters.
1324
01:01:08,724 --> 01:01:12,448
Flying the flag for the Bay Area
in San Francisco in the scene.
1325
01:01:12,448 --> 01:01:16,241
So it was important for us
to stay in touch with everybody
1326
01:01:16,241 --> 01:01:17,724
that was back at home,
holding the fort.
1327
01:01:17,724 --> 01:01:19,517
[man]
See if you know this one.
1328
01:01:19,517 --> 01:01:21,413
I want you all to scream
it back at me!
1329
01:01:21,413 --> 01:01:22,896
this is titled,
1330
01:01:22,896 --> 01:01:25,655
"Seek and Destroy!"
1331
01:01:27,137 --> 01:01:29,758
["Seek and Destroy" plays]
1332
01:01:40,068 --> 01:01:45,137
Cliff would write me really
long letters from Copenhagen
1333
01:01:46,103 --> 01:01:48,965
in his horrible writing
1334
01:01:48,965 --> 01:01:52,206
and just talk about
how good things were going.
1335
01:01:52,206 --> 01:01:54,482
This tour is great.
1336
01:01:54,482 --> 01:01:56,448
First Aardschok festival
I called Lars.
1337
01:01:56,448 --> 01:01:59,068
If he wanted to open up
for my festival
1338
01:01:59,068 --> 01:02:00,896
because I thought
it was a great band.
1339
01:02:00,896 --> 01:02:03,827
You know, I'd send them money
for plane tickets and stuff.
1340
01:02:03,827 --> 01:02:05,965
It definitely made
a big impression.
1341
01:02:05,965 --> 01:02:09,586
You could already tell
that these guys were
going to go somewhere.
1342
01:02:09,586 --> 01:02:12,172
Everybody knew.
I mean, we all knew.
1343
01:02:12,172 --> 01:02:15,137
Some old black and white
pictures of Metallica
at that show.
1344
01:02:15,137 --> 01:02:18,551
They were so nervous there
around that time to do the show.
1345
01:02:18,551 --> 01:02:22,137
Even though they
were aware, they were
still part of the scene.
1346
01:02:22,137 --> 01:02:24,689
You heard that the band
was blowing people away,
1347
01:02:24,689 --> 01:02:26,344
just like they did
when they started here.
1348
01:02:45,620 --> 01:02:47,931
Lars said no.
We didn't have the cover.
1349
01:02:47,931 --> 01:02:49,310
It was just Kirk on there.
1350
01:02:49,310 --> 01:02:51,586
Tapes were being
copied the next day,
1351
01:02:51,586 --> 01:02:54,448
and they were sent
to Germany, Belgium,
1352
01:02:54,448 --> 01:02:56,241
France, all over the world.
1353
01:03:04,689 --> 01:03:06,551
[Lars]
It wasn't really until James
1354
01:03:06,551 --> 01:03:08,758
started getting some
European shows under his belt
1355
01:03:08,758 --> 01:03:10,724
in the spring of 1984,
1356
01:03:10,724 --> 01:03:15,517
where he started
being able to command the big,
European crowds.
1357
01:03:15,517 --> 01:03:18,241
That's when he became
James Hetfield, the frontman.
1358
01:03:18,241 --> 01:03:20,275
Are we fucking nuts tonight!
1359
01:03:20,275 --> 01:03:23,034
[audience screams]
1360
01:03:23,034 --> 01:03:26,931
[Mike] This was certainly
not the shy kid that was
in high school, hating life.
1361
01:03:26,931 --> 01:03:29,034
This was the kid that
1362
01:03:29,034 --> 01:03:31,103
finally found his voice
1363
01:03:31,103 --> 01:03:35,103
and got to be in a band that was
able to help express it for him.
1364
01:03:38,310 --> 01:03:41,586
We were very aware
there was something brewing
in San Francisco
1365
01:03:41,586 --> 01:03:43,965
that was a little heavier,
a little angrier.
1366
01:03:43,965 --> 01:03:46,413
Exodus, you know,
were definitely part of that.
1367
01:03:46,413 --> 01:03:48,965
[narrator]Blown away by
what he saw in the Bay Area,
1368
01:03:48,965 --> 01:03:52,482
Andre Werheizen booked
Exodus into the Dynamo Club.
1369
01:03:52,482 --> 01:03:55,931
The show has passed into
legendspread by numerous
bootlegs.
1370
01:03:55,931 --> 01:03:58,551
I want to dedicate
this one to Andre over here.
1371
01:03:58,551 --> 01:04:01,137
Who's here because of Andre?
1372
01:04:01,137 --> 01:04:03,689
That was Exodus's
first tour of Europe.
1373
01:04:03,689 --> 01:04:06,551
[man] The only club show
they did was at the Dynamo,
1374
01:04:06,551 --> 01:04:09,793
and they did 300 or 350 people
by themselves.
1375
01:04:09,793 --> 01:04:13,000
More people in there than
I think officially were allowed,
1376
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,620
maybe three times as much,
1377
01:04:14,620 --> 01:04:17,413
because everybody wanted
to see those bands,
1378
01:04:17,413 --> 01:04:20,758
and Dynamo Club was the only
place you could see them.
1379
01:04:41,448 --> 01:04:45,448
From my pen pals, Brian Lew
and Andy Airborne Anderson,
1380
01:04:45,448 --> 01:04:48,724
who was very close with Exodus,
I got some live tapes.
1381
01:04:48,724 --> 01:04:52,172
And we were fascinated. They
were even faster than Metallica.
1382
01:04:52,172 --> 01:04:55,275
They were even
a little bit more intense.
Word got out,
1383
01:04:55,275 --> 01:04:59,172
and word by mouth is
the strongest promotion
that you can get.
1384
01:04:59,172 --> 01:05:01,448
[narrator]While Metallica
were away touring,
1385
01:05:01,448 --> 01:05:03,931
Pam and Connie were
house-sitting the mansion.
1386
01:05:03,931 --> 01:05:06,655
[Connie] We had sort of screwed
up their finances along the way.
1387
01:05:06,655 --> 01:05:08,758
We weren't very good
at balancing checkbooks.
1388
01:05:08,758 --> 01:05:10,620
Mark had just left
the checkbook.
1389
01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:12,931
He left a checkbook
that was signed with checks,
1390
01:05:12,931 --> 01:05:16,931
and we were just supposed
to deposit money and
then give them the checks.
1391
01:05:16,931 --> 01:05:20,413
I had to go to my
very conservative,
Republican mom and dad
1392
01:05:20,413 --> 01:05:22,896
and ask for them
to bail out Metallica.
1393
01:05:22,896 --> 01:05:26,413
So I like to say that my mom,
Mike and Carole Bryant
1394
01:05:26,413 --> 01:05:28,206
sort of saved
the Metallica band.
1395
01:05:28,206 --> 01:05:30,448
-Sorry, guys.
-So there you go.
1396
01:05:30,448 --> 01:05:34,000
-It all worked out.
-It all worked out, yeah.
1397
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,275
New bands were rising
everywhere in the Bay Area,
1398
01:05:37,275 --> 01:05:39,448
inspired by the scene
they were living in.
1399
01:05:39,448 --> 01:05:42,103
Bands like Testament,
Death Angel,
1400
01:05:42,103 --> 01:05:43,896
Violence, Forbidden,
1401
01:05:43,896 --> 01:05:46,586
and Possessed all made their
mark on the metal scene.
1402
01:05:46,586 --> 01:05:50,241
Each year there'd be a band
that would kind of step up
1403
01:05:50,241 --> 01:05:54,275
into the role of being able
to headline a show at, say,
Ruthie's or the Stone.
1404
01:05:54,275 --> 01:05:56,482
Metallica came out
with Kill Em All,
1405
01:05:56,482 --> 01:05:58,344
and they were doing
the Kill Em All For One tour.
1406
01:05:58,344 --> 01:06:00,862
We stood right on
the edge of the pit,
1407
01:06:00,862 --> 01:06:04,862
and we head-banged for
the entire fucking show
when it was Cliff Burton,
1408
01:06:04,862 --> 01:06:07,724
and he's doing
"Anesthesia Pulling Teeth."
1409
01:06:07,724 --> 01:06:09,586
We're like,
these guys are fucking amazing.
1410
01:06:09,586 --> 01:06:12,413
And the whole way
home it was like,
1411
01:06:12,413 --> 01:06:14,000
we're going to start a band,
1412
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,758
we're going to start
playing shows,
1413
01:06:15,758 --> 01:06:17,379
and we're going to play thrash.
1414
01:06:17,379 --> 01:06:19,793
All those people would be going
to the shows at Ruthie's
1415
01:06:19,793 --> 01:06:21,793
in the Bay Area clubs and stuff,
1416
01:06:21,793 --> 01:06:24,586
and basically they kind of
looked up on stage and said,
"I can do that."
1417
01:06:24,586 --> 01:06:28,482
You always hear
the old cats talk about
the Beatles on Ed Sullivan
1418
01:06:28,482 --> 01:06:30,758
and how they picked up
a guitar after they saw that.
1419
01:06:30,758 --> 01:06:33,862
That was my
Beatles/Ed Sullivan moment,
1420
01:06:33,862 --> 01:06:38,068
but if we wanted
to be something,
if we wanted to matter,
1421
01:06:38,068 --> 01:06:40,206
we had to get into Ruthie's.
1422
01:06:40,206 --> 01:06:41,931
And if we could
survive Ruthie's,
1423
01:06:41,931 --> 01:06:43,482
and not get killed,
1424
01:06:43,482 --> 01:06:46,103
and not get booed off the stage,
1425
01:06:46,103 --> 01:06:49,275
and not get the mike
ripped down in front of it
like people were prone to do,
1426
01:06:49,275 --> 01:06:51,551
and survive the Slay Team,
1427
01:06:51,551 --> 01:06:53,758
then that would be the ultimate.
1428
01:06:55,896 --> 01:07:00,241
You can't tell the story of
the San Francisco metal scene
1429
01:07:00,241 --> 01:07:02,758
without talking
about Debbie Abono.
1430
01:07:02,758 --> 01:07:08,482
She managed one of the most
hardcore bands to come out
of the Bay Area,
1431
01:07:08,482 --> 01:07:12,241
which was Possessed, you know,
super Satanic speed metal.
1432
01:07:12,241 --> 01:07:13,896
This is metal mom right here.
1433
01:07:13,896 --> 01:07:17,793
I know there's a few
metal moms across the globe,
1434
01:07:17,793 --> 01:07:19,241
but this was ours.
1435
01:07:19,241 --> 01:07:21,551
I broke my leg at a DRI show.
1436
01:07:21,551 --> 01:07:23,586
She basically nursed me
back to health at her house.
1437
01:07:23,586 --> 01:07:26,034
She was the mom
of the scene, you know?
1438
01:07:26,034 --> 01:07:28,896
Every show she'd
be there for every band.
1439
01:07:28,896 --> 01:07:30,586
She lived at a house in Penol,
1440
01:07:30,586 --> 01:07:32,586
and after parties
we'd be at her house.
1441
01:07:32,586 --> 01:07:35,862
[Alex] She really saw everybody
in that scene as human,
1442
01:07:35,862 --> 01:07:39,448
whereas there was
a lot of demonization...
1443
01:07:40,310 --> 01:07:43,068
of the youth.
1444
01:07:43,068 --> 01:07:46,689
She knew that
we needed a safe place,
1445
01:07:46,689 --> 01:07:49,586
and Debbie Abono's house
was always a safe place.
1446
01:07:49,586 --> 01:07:51,620
-You know, a party would--
-Last a couple of days.
1447
01:07:51,620 --> 01:07:53,379
Last a couple days.
1448
01:07:53,379 --> 01:07:55,724
I know sometimes
I'd be going to school
the next day,
1449
01:07:55,724 --> 01:07:59,689
walking through the people
who were still hanging
out at my house.
1450
01:07:59,689 --> 01:08:02,172
They all knew that
Debbie would take care of them
1451
01:08:02,172 --> 01:08:03,862
if they didn't
have anywhere to go.
1452
01:08:03,862 --> 01:08:06,206
The word-of-mouth kind of got--
Because you go hey, I need this
1453
01:08:06,206 --> 01:08:07,862
or I need that for my band.
1454
01:08:07,862 --> 01:08:09,620
And my mom would go out
and get it for you.
1455
01:08:09,620 --> 01:08:12,172
For me personally,
she helped me a ton.
1456
01:08:12,172 --> 01:08:15,965
I started taking guitar
lessons from Joe Satriani.
I couldn't afford it.
1457
01:08:15,965 --> 01:08:17,068
She paid for it,
1458
01:08:17,068 --> 01:08:18,827
and I couldn't thank her enough.
1459
01:08:18,827 --> 01:08:20,965
There's no way I'd be anywhere
I was right now without Debbie,
1460
01:08:20,965 --> 01:08:24,310
so I'm eternally grateful
for everything she did.
1461
01:08:24,310 --> 01:08:26,965
For young, 16-year-old
Larry Lalonde,
1462
01:08:26,965 --> 01:08:28,827
he's in tenth grade
in high school,
1463
01:08:28,827 --> 01:08:30,448
and they have a record out.
1464
01:08:30,448 --> 01:08:32,310
You know, imagine being
a tenth-grader,
1465
01:08:32,310 --> 01:08:34,551
and you have an actual album.
1466
01:08:34,551 --> 01:08:37,137
And you're playing in clubs.
1467
01:08:37,137 --> 01:08:40,137
I remember kind of showing up
at high school and going hey,
I've got a record,
1468
01:08:40,137 --> 01:08:41,931
and them being like,
yeah, big deal.
1469
01:08:41,931 --> 01:08:43,517
People kind of being like, what,
you think you're hot shit now?
1470
01:08:43,517 --> 01:08:47,275
Then she'd get tapes
constantly in the mail.
1471
01:08:47,275 --> 01:08:49,896
She'd get hundreds of them
from other bands,
1472
01:08:49,896 --> 01:08:51,344
wanting her to manage them.
1473
01:08:51,344 --> 01:08:53,344
Really looked out
for everybody, you know?
1474
01:08:53,344 --> 01:08:54,965
When she managed Forbidden,
1475
01:08:54,965 --> 01:08:56,655
she would go on tour.
1476
01:08:56,655 --> 01:09:01,000
I think she was 57 years old
when she was doing this.
1477
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,793
I mean, just going out
on tour in a van for
two months across America
1478
01:09:04,793 --> 01:09:07,172
at 57 years old.
1479
01:09:07,172 --> 01:09:09,068
Like, that's fucking crazy.
1480
01:09:09,068 --> 01:09:13,482
And it's everything that
the horrors probably that
you've heard of.
1481
01:09:13,482 --> 01:09:16,206
She put up with a lot of
shenanigans from us, you know?
1482
01:09:16,206 --> 01:09:20,413
One time I guess they
had a porno magazine
in the back of the van,
1483
01:09:20,413 --> 01:09:24,379
and they taped a bunch of
pictures to the inside
windows of the van.
1484
01:09:24,379 --> 01:09:26,275
And we come pulling
into a gas station,
1485
01:09:26,275 --> 01:09:30,241
and here's this grandma,
you know, this older lady,
pulling in.
1486
01:09:30,241 --> 01:09:32,206
And then here's the most
obscene pictures on the windows.
1487
01:09:32,206 --> 01:09:35,241
And she couldn't believe
we'd do that stuff.
1488
01:09:50,551 --> 01:09:53,137
I always considered us
the third wave of thrash.
1489
01:09:53,137 --> 01:09:56,482
So it's like Metallica, Slayer,
and Exodus was the first wave.
1490
01:09:56,482 --> 01:10:00,827
Then Testament, Death Angel,
and Violence Forbidden.
1491
01:10:00,827 --> 01:10:04,517
I started auditioning
and just went from band to band
to band, you know?
1492
01:10:04,517 --> 01:10:06,827
And finally it clicked
with Forbidden Evil.
1493
01:10:06,827 --> 01:10:10,103
A band that young could get
a show at Ruthie's Inn,
1494
01:10:10,103 --> 01:10:11,655
and no one would bat an eye.
1495
01:10:11,655 --> 01:10:13,448
We're hanging out Ruthie's Inn
and the Stone.
1496
01:10:13,448 --> 01:10:15,827
We're not supposed to be there,
because we're 14.
1497
01:10:15,827 --> 01:10:19,000
My first show ever
was November 24, 1984,
1498
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,379
Megadeth and Death Angel.
1499
01:10:20,379 --> 01:10:22,068
When they were loading in,
you know,
1500
01:10:22,068 --> 01:10:23,793
we were making fun of them.
1501
01:10:23,793 --> 01:10:25,206
Like, you know, your mom's
driving you to the show.
1502
01:10:25,206 --> 01:10:26,931
Then we'd get all pissed off.
1503
01:10:26,931 --> 01:10:28,827
Why do they always refer
to us as just so young and stuff
1504
01:10:28,827 --> 01:10:30,344
and just focusing on
the fact that we're young?
1505
01:10:30,344 --> 01:10:32,344
It was hard to put
a band together,
1506
01:10:32,344 --> 01:10:34,068
especially if you're 15.
1507
01:10:34,068 --> 01:10:37,586
I also knew that if I could
just get through one show,
1508
01:10:37,586 --> 01:10:40,206
it'll be a positive experience.
I need to do this.
1509
01:10:40,206 --> 01:10:41,965
Alex history--
I'm sure he told you.
1510
01:10:41,965 --> 01:10:44,655
You know, he's 15
and didn't have teenage years.
1511
01:10:44,655 --> 01:10:46,310
He toured the whole time,
you know,
1512
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:48,517
from the first record
to the fifth record.
1513
01:10:48,517 --> 01:10:52,275
We did a record every year
and toured ever year:
five records, five years.
1514
01:10:52,275 --> 01:10:56,413
[narrator] Possessed is
credited withstarting the death
metal genre.
1515
01:10:56,413 --> 01:10:58,448
You know, the whole
Satanic theme was kind of funny.
1516
01:10:58,448 --> 01:11:00,517
I don't think anyone
was actually into Satan.
1517
01:11:00,517 --> 01:11:02,344
It just freaked people out, so.
1518
01:11:12,551 --> 01:11:15,482
[narrator]In August 1985,
Metallica played Bill Graham's
1519
01:11:15,482 --> 01:11:18,275
legendary Day on
the Green festival.
1520
01:11:18,275 --> 01:11:21,827
On a bill that
featurednScorpions and Yngwie
Malmsteen,
1521
01:11:21,827 --> 01:11:24,275
Metallica stole the show.
1522
01:11:24,275 --> 01:11:26,724
I was there.
It was insane.
1523
01:11:26,724 --> 01:11:30,448
Did we all come here to kick
some fucking ass or what?
1524
01:11:30,448 --> 01:11:34,827
The fact that Metallica got
a chance to play at Donington
1525
01:11:34,827 --> 01:11:37,137
and then two weeks later
at Day on the Green
1526
01:11:37,137 --> 01:11:39,310
was just a total mind fuck.
1527
01:11:39,310 --> 01:11:42,482
Me, what I remember
is going in there kind of cold,
1528
01:11:42,482 --> 01:11:44,172
not really knowing
what's going on
1529
01:11:44,172 --> 01:11:47,206
but blown away
1530
01:11:47,206 --> 01:11:49,827
at the consumer satisfaction.
1531
01:11:49,827 --> 01:11:53,310
The audience had so
fervently embraced
1532
01:11:53,310 --> 01:11:56,344
this from the minute
that band set stage that
1533
01:11:56,344 --> 01:11:59,931
it wasn't even a matter of
whether I understood it or not.
1534
01:11:59,931 --> 01:12:02,551
I could tell that these
people understood it,
1535
01:12:02,551 --> 01:12:05,413
and I witnessed the
extraordinary fervor
and enthusiasm.
1536
01:12:05,413 --> 01:12:07,586
It was hard not
to be swept up in it.
1537
01:12:07,586 --> 01:12:12,310
[Alex] With most other bands,
bass is sort of
a background role,
1538
01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:15,241
but with that
version of Metallica,
1539
01:12:15,241 --> 01:12:16,827
it was featured.
1540
01:12:16,827 --> 01:12:19,517
[playing speed guitar]
1541
01:12:19,517 --> 01:12:23,000
Cliff had a very serious
attack to his strings.
1542
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,517
His technique was very abrasive,
1543
01:12:24,517 --> 01:12:26,793
and there was a lot
of power in it.
1544
01:12:26,793 --> 01:12:29,103
It was almost like this
punk attitude coming out
of his fingertips,
1545
01:12:29,103 --> 01:12:34,103
and yet he was very
graceful with his connection
to classical music.
1546
01:12:34,103 --> 01:12:36,034
[heavy metal plays]
1547
01:12:45,586 --> 01:12:49,827
It can't be overstated
what a huge moment that was
1548
01:12:49,827 --> 01:12:53,482
for not just Metallica but for
the whole Bay Area scene.
1549
01:12:53,482 --> 01:12:55,517
The fact that Metallica were
playing at Day on the Green,
1550
01:12:55,517 --> 01:12:58,103
it was like all of us were
playing Day on the Green.
1551
01:12:58,103 --> 01:13:00,758
[James Hatfeild]
Day on the Green has been
around since the '70s.
1552
01:13:00,758 --> 01:13:02,862
For us to be asked
to be part of it.
1553
01:13:02,862 --> 01:13:04,724
Didn't care where
we were on the bill.
1554
01:13:04,724 --> 01:13:10,034
Ratt was placed above Metallica,
which was sacrilegious,
1555
01:13:10,034 --> 01:13:11,448
to say the least.
1556
01:13:11,448 --> 01:13:14,931
So I painted this banner
with the Metallica logo
1557
01:13:14,931 --> 01:13:19,172
crushing down on this rat
that was flipped upside down
1558
01:13:19,172 --> 01:13:20,862
with a little spiked wristband,
1559
01:13:20,862 --> 01:13:23,793
and it was sitting next to
a thing that said rat poison.
1560
01:13:23,793 --> 01:13:28,551
And I got berated by a couple
overweight ladies in spandex.
1561
01:13:28,551 --> 01:13:32,551
You know, fucking Metallica
came out, and they
just took over.
1562
01:13:33,551 --> 01:13:36,172
As soon as they got on stage,
1563
01:13:36,172 --> 01:13:38,862
it was the stone in the pond.
1564
01:13:38,862 --> 01:13:43,034
Concentric circles of violence
spread throughout.
1565
01:13:43,034 --> 01:13:47,034
I remember standing
there stage left and
going there's Metallica,
1566
01:13:47,034 --> 01:13:49,724
and there's 60,000 people.
It's 1985.
1567
01:13:49,724 --> 01:13:51,758
It's like, yeah,
this is really cool.
1568
01:13:51,758 --> 01:13:53,103
[Metallica playing]
1569
01:13:59,862 --> 01:14:02,206
I don't think anyone
had seen a mosh pit,
1570
01:14:02,206 --> 01:14:04,379
and it didn't occur to me to go,
1571
01:14:04,379 --> 01:14:05,655
"And there's going
to be a mosh pit."
1572
01:14:10,896 --> 01:14:12,724
So for the both of us,
1573
01:14:12,724 --> 01:14:15,827
to be there onstage
on Day on the Green,
1574
01:14:15,827 --> 01:14:18,275
it was a huge accomplishment.
1575
01:14:20,758 --> 01:14:24,724
[James] The whole metal
community was excited
and supporting us,
1576
01:14:24,724 --> 01:14:26,586
especially for Cliff
1577
01:14:26,586 --> 01:14:29,896
being from the Bay Area.
It was like heaven for him.
1578
01:14:29,896 --> 01:14:34,103
[Connie] Everyone knows
about that worldwide, so,
he was excited.
1579
01:14:40,275 --> 01:14:43,413
After the Day on the Green show,
we did our normal stuff,
you know?
1580
01:14:43,413 --> 01:14:46,275
James and I went out
to the crowd to throw fruit.
1581
01:14:46,275 --> 01:14:49,275
Fred Rotten Cotton
and a few of the others,
1582
01:14:49,275 --> 01:14:51,758
you know, had some beverages
and just went crazy.
1583
01:14:51,758 --> 01:14:54,310
Took avocados and crammed
through vents.
1584
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:55,655
Air-conditioning vents.
1585
01:14:55,655 --> 01:14:57,517
Just wrecked the
backstage dressing room.
1586
01:14:57,517 --> 01:14:59,896
You know, you're supposed
to trash shit.
1587
01:14:59,896 --> 01:15:01,344
So we did. We destroyed it.
1588
01:15:06,310 --> 01:15:07,965
I called the Metallica house,
1589
01:15:07,965 --> 01:15:09,551
and James answered the phone.
1590
01:15:09,551 --> 01:15:12,896
And I was like,
"We're in trouble."
1591
01:15:12,896 --> 01:15:17,689
Had no clue that, you know,
there's another day after ours.
1592
01:15:17,689 --> 01:15:19,896
You know, another band
has to use your trailer.
1593
01:15:19,896 --> 01:15:23,310
You're going to have to go over
there and talk to Bill.
1594
01:15:23,310 --> 01:15:25,310
I was like, oh, shit,
like I'm being called in.
1595
01:15:25,310 --> 01:15:29,965
He sat me down and said,
"Hey, I know you're a
rock and roll band at heart,
1596
01:15:29,965 --> 01:15:31,655
and breaking shit
and destroying things, you know,
1597
01:15:31,655 --> 01:15:33,379
it might be fun
for a little bit."
1598
01:15:33,379 --> 01:15:35,655
What would you do if
1599
01:15:35,655 --> 01:15:38,068
people came in your home
and behaved this way?
1600
01:15:38,068 --> 01:15:41,103
And James goes, "Well, pretty
much they do every weekend."
1601
01:15:41,103 --> 01:15:43,241
[James] I didn't quite get
what he was trying to say.
1602
01:15:43,241 --> 01:15:47,586
He said, "You guys are talented,
and you're on
a path to destruction."
1603
01:15:47,586 --> 01:15:49,000
He knew.
1604
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,000
He said,
"I've had this same talk
1605
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,965
with Sid Vicious
and with Keith Moon,
1606
01:15:53,965 --> 01:15:56,000
and they didn't listen.
1607
01:15:58,241 --> 01:16:00,379
Maybe you'll listen, maybe not."
1608
01:16:00,379 --> 01:16:04,137
What really happened
was James totally manned up,
1609
01:16:04,137 --> 01:16:07,000
and Bill completely
respected it.
1610
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,862
[James] So I said,
"You know, I'm young.
I'm stupid.
1611
01:16:09,862 --> 01:16:12,965
And thanks for that.
1612
01:16:12,965 --> 01:16:15,862
I appreciate the talk,
and I'll do my best."
1613
01:16:15,862 --> 01:16:17,724
Years later he would go to me,
1614
01:16:17,724 --> 01:16:19,344
"How's James?"
1615
01:16:19,344 --> 01:16:21,172
Well, I haven't really talked
to him lately,
1616
01:16:21,172 --> 01:16:22,931
but I'm sure he's fine.
1617
01:16:22,931 --> 01:16:26,896
To this day I still never
said thank you to him,
1618
01:16:26,896 --> 01:16:29,620
because it did enlighten me
a little bit.
1619
01:16:29,620 --> 01:16:32,724
He made it right
to the best of his ability.
1620
01:16:32,724 --> 01:16:35,482
The next time we came to play
in the backstage area,
1621
01:16:35,482 --> 01:16:38,068
he put Visqueen, Clear plastic,
1622
01:16:38,068 --> 01:16:40,172
over everything.
1623
01:16:40,172 --> 01:16:42,137
The ceiling, the walls,
1624
01:16:42,137 --> 01:16:44,275
the floor, the table.
1625
01:16:44,275 --> 01:16:47,758
He even wrapped
bottles of beer in it, so...
1626
01:16:48,827 --> 01:16:50,310
it would be protected.
1627
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:52,931
[narrator]1986 was an
ear-shattering year
1628
01:16:52,931 --> 01:16:54,344
for thrash metal.
1629
01:16:54,344 --> 01:16:56,206
Metallica, Megadeth,
and Slayer,
1630
01:16:56,206 --> 01:17:00,586
followed by Anthrax, all
released landmark albums.
1631
01:17:00,586 --> 01:17:03,931
I was asking Lars
where this was taken,
1632
01:17:03,931 --> 01:17:06,310
and he says, "I'm pretty sure it
was in Copenhagen."
1633
01:17:14,482 --> 01:17:16,000
[Corinne Lynn]
He would wake up
1634
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,655
and put on his
little boxer shorts.
1635
01:17:19,655 --> 01:17:22,827
And he had a little amp
and his white guitar.
1636
01:17:22,827 --> 01:17:24,931
And it looked like a Gibson,
but it wasn't.
1637
01:17:24,931 --> 01:17:26,379
And he would play.
1638
01:17:27,793 --> 01:17:32,034
He could not wait
to get on the road.
1639
01:17:32,034 --> 01:17:34,172
And Cliff was excited,
as much as he didn't
want to go to Europe.
1640
01:17:34,172 --> 01:17:35,413
It was a short tour.
1641
01:17:35,413 --> 01:17:37,344
He wanted me to look at houses.
1642
01:17:37,344 --> 01:17:41,482
At this point we
had really developed and
were going to live together.
1643
01:17:41,482 --> 01:17:43,827
So he wanted me to
look at houses just around,
1644
01:17:43,827 --> 01:17:45,758
in the East Bay.
1645
01:17:45,758 --> 01:17:47,862
[narrator]
On September 26th, 1986,
1646
01:17:47,862 --> 01:17:50,724
Metallica played
a show in Stockholm, Sweden
1647
01:17:50,724 --> 01:17:53,206
supported by their friends,
Anthrax.
1648
01:17:53,206 --> 01:17:56,275
Anthrax went on ahead
to the next show.
1649
01:17:56,275 --> 01:17:58,000
Metallica never made it.
1650
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,655
In the early hours
of September 27th,
1651
01:18:00,655 --> 01:18:04,965
their tour bus crashed, and
Cliff Burton was killed.
1652
01:18:04,965 --> 01:18:07,724
He was 24 years old.
1653
01:18:07,724 --> 01:18:10,965
I went home and started
calling Cliff
1654
01:18:10,965 --> 01:18:12,172
in Sweden at the hotel.
1655
01:18:12,172 --> 01:18:14,103
I had the itinerary.
1656
01:18:14,103 --> 01:18:16,310
"Oh, no, they haven't
checked in yet."
1657
01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:18,517
Okay, that's weird.
1658
01:18:21,310 --> 01:18:23,206
Try again an hour later.
1659
01:18:25,275 --> 01:18:27,068
That's when she told me.
1660
01:18:28,655 --> 01:18:32,310
It just wasn't even real.
It wasn't possible.
1661
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:35,000
So I immediately called
Cliff's parents.
1662
01:18:36,965 --> 01:18:39,379
I didn't want to be
with anyone else, you know,
1663
01:18:39,379 --> 01:18:41,724
wanted to be with his parents
1664
01:18:41,724 --> 01:18:43,724
and smell his things.
1665
01:18:45,448 --> 01:18:47,655
We don't sit
back and say oh,
1666
01:18:47,655 --> 01:18:51,758
I hope we're big next year
or I hope this or hope that.
1667
01:18:51,758 --> 01:18:53,344
We just go and do it
1668
01:18:53,344 --> 01:18:55,586
and don't put a lot
of thought into
1669
01:18:55,586 --> 01:18:58,034
what might happen
or what could happen.
1670
01:18:58,034 --> 01:19:00,793
We try not to think
too much about the future.
1671
01:19:03,724 --> 01:19:06,827
[James]
Cliff was such a character,
1672
01:19:06,827 --> 01:19:10,862
and he was with us for
that short amount of time.
1673
01:19:10,862 --> 01:19:12,620
Thank God there were
some people filming
1674
01:19:12,620 --> 01:19:14,724
and some friends around
that had cameras.
1675
01:19:16,482 --> 01:19:20,034
To respect that time greatly.
1676
01:19:20,034 --> 01:19:22,724
I am so glad that
he was in my life
1677
01:19:22,724 --> 01:19:26,206
and I got to share some
times with him.
1678
01:19:26,206 --> 01:19:27,724
Someone so close
1679
01:19:27,724 --> 01:19:30,000
and someone who...
1680
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,793
I saw my future with.
1681
01:19:32,793 --> 01:19:35,034
And it was awful.
1682
01:19:35,034 --> 01:19:36,551
It was just awful.
1683
01:19:36,551 --> 01:19:38,724
Most of us were so young
back then that we...
1684
01:19:38,724 --> 01:19:42,034
we really hadn't dealt
with death before.
1685
01:19:42,034 --> 01:19:45,379
[Tim Healy]
The first thing I did was I got
up and headed out to the Vault,
1686
01:19:45,379 --> 01:19:47,655
because I was working
the next day at the store.
1687
01:19:47,655 --> 01:19:50,137
From the minute that
we opened the door,
1688
01:19:50,137 --> 01:19:52,758
it was a constant flood
of people coming in.
1689
01:19:52,758 --> 01:19:55,620
It was the place where
people came to grieve.
1690
01:19:55,620 --> 01:19:59,827
It was the place were
people came to reflect
and tell stories.
1691
01:19:59,827 --> 01:20:03,655
And it was almost
the perfect place to find out,
1692
01:20:03,655 --> 01:20:07,551
because it was home
for all of the scene,
1693
01:20:07,551 --> 01:20:10,344
also for him and those guys.
1694
01:20:11,241 --> 01:20:13,000
What made us survive it was
1695
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:17,241
that community of
those thrashers.
1696
01:20:17,241 --> 01:20:20,241
[Sven] No one ever thought about
1697
01:20:20,241 --> 01:20:22,413
the perils of rock and roll
1698
01:20:22,413 --> 01:20:25,310
or the fact that
tour buses crash
1699
01:20:25,310 --> 01:20:27,482
and people die out there
1700
01:20:27,482 --> 01:20:33,103
doing what we were
all aspired to do, and doing
what he ultimately loved.
1701
01:20:33,103 --> 01:20:35,137
[Charlie Benante]
I know we felt bad,
1702
01:20:35,137 --> 01:20:39,068
but I could only imagine
what each one of
them personally felt.
1703
01:20:39,068 --> 01:20:40,862
Yeah, it was a terrible time.
1704
01:20:40,862 --> 01:20:43,413
A terrible thing.
1705
01:20:43,413 --> 01:20:47,068
[Dave] What I know
about Cliff was that
he was a very gentle soul,
1706
01:20:47,068 --> 01:20:50,793
and we laughed.
1707
01:20:50,793 --> 01:20:52,413
Man, we would laugh.
1708
01:20:52,413 --> 01:20:55,344
You can't ask more
from your kids,
1709
01:20:55,344 --> 01:21:00,655
particularly when you don't
have to say much to them.
1710
01:21:00,655 --> 01:21:05,206
Cliff would just decide
he knew on his own
1711
01:21:05,206 --> 01:21:07,448
what was right
and what was wrong,
1712
01:21:08,517 --> 01:21:10,379
and he...
1713
01:21:10,379 --> 01:21:14,206
practiced it just like
he'd practice his music.
1714
01:21:20,137 --> 01:21:23,413
People forget what you do this.
1715
01:21:23,413 --> 01:21:27,793
It's because think back
to those days when you guys were
in a shitty rehearsal room.
1716
01:21:27,793 --> 01:21:31,241
Nothing else mattered
but just making something.
1717
01:21:31,241 --> 01:21:33,034
That's all you lived for.
1718
01:21:33,034 --> 01:21:35,862
So Metal Allegiance we're just
the guys from the neighborhood.
1719
01:21:35,862 --> 01:21:38,310
We're the friends
that all shared the same
record collection.
1720
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:39,862
It was just a great spirit.
1721
01:21:39,862 --> 01:21:42,448
We said, you know,
maybe we should make a record.
1722
01:21:42,448 --> 01:21:46,655
Just to see what it sounds like
if all of us can actually write
and record some music together.
1723
01:21:51,586 --> 01:21:53,724
The marching orders
for that record, though,
1724
01:21:53,724 --> 01:21:55,689
is we're writing
a thrash metal record.
1725
01:21:55,689 --> 01:21:58,344
Obviously Alex is
involved in that scene.
1726
01:21:58,344 --> 01:21:59,965
We're getting Mark Osegueda,
1727
01:21:59,965 --> 01:22:03,241
Gary Holt, and Chuck Billy.
1728
01:22:03,241 --> 01:22:04,724
We're getting
the Bay Area's best.
1729
01:22:04,724 --> 01:22:07,827
You would hope
this happens everywhere,
1730
01:22:07,827 --> 01:22:09,931
but we're like,
you know, do you think it does?
1731
01:22:09,931 --> 01:22:12,034
Like, no, it's the Bay Area.
It's a special place,
1732
01:22:12,034 --> 01:22:15,793
and we've got some
special people that
are backing each other.
1733
01:22:45,379 --> 01:22:47,344
Why don't we ever get to do
any jams with people, you know?
1734
01:22:47,344 --> 01:22:48,482
And I got approached,
1735
01:22:48,482 --> 01:22:50,551
I'm like, absolutely, please.
1736
01:23:29,482 --> 01:23:31,068
[narrator] Since
the 1980s,
1737
01:23:31,068 --> 01:23:33,413
thrash metal music that was
nurtured in the Bay Area
1738
01:23:33,413 --> 01:23:35,103
extended its reach
around the globe,
1739
01:23:35,103 --> 01:23:39,068
inspiring metal fans
everywhere to crank it up.
1740
01:23:39,068 --> 01:23:41,275
[explosion]
1741
01:23:43,793 --> 01:23:45,344
[heavy metal plays]
1742
01:24:00,241 --> 01:24:02,275
In 2013,
1743
01:24:02,275 --> 01:24:05,379
Gary Holt replaced the late,
great Jeff Hanneman in
Slayer.
1744
01:24:05,379 --> 01:24:06,931
It's kind of weird, you know?
1745
01:24:06,931 --> 01:24:10,344
I got the call from Kerry
to come help them out.
1746
01:24:10,344 --> 01:24:13,965
People who don't know
the background between
the two bands will ask me,
1747
01:24:13,965 --> 01:24:17,172
wow, how's it feel to be
playing with such metal legends?
They're my buddies.
1748
01:24:17,172 --> 01:24:21,655
I think metal fans are the most
devoted of any fans there are.
1749
01:24:21,655 --> 01:24:23,379
They're not fickle.
They like what they like,
1750
01:24:23,379 --> 01:24:26,551
and I think a Slayer fan
is that fan times ten.
1751
01:24:27,862 --> 01:24:29,551
To me it's about humility,
1752
01:24:29,551 --> 01:24:31,517
and I'm more humbled
by the fact that people
1753
01:24:31,517 --> 01:24:33,758
have such an admiration
for the band.
1754
01:24:33,758 --> 01:24:35,655
You hear stories
about some of these people
1755
01:24:35,655 --> 01:24:38,724
that your music made
me strong and held me together
1756
01:24:38,724 --> 01:24:41,241
to get past a certain
point in my life.
1757
01:24:41,241 --> 01:24:43,103
I'm very grateful for that.
1758
01:24:44,206 --> 01:24:46,275
You're getting me
all teary-eyed.
1759
01:24:54,172 --> 01:24:59,586
[narrator]In 2017, Megadeth
won the Grammy for best metal
performance for their album,
1760
01:24:59,586 --> 01:25:00,448
Dystopia.
1761
01:25:00,448 --> 01:25:02,275
[Dave] One thing is for sure,
1762
01:25:02,275 --> 01:25:04,896
This community has a way
of taking care of its own.
1763
01:25:04,896 --> 01:25:09,103
I'm honored that the fans
still like what we're doing.
1764
01:25:09,103 --> 01:25:12,034
It's great to hear.
It feels good.
1765
01:25:19,931 --> 01:25:21,517
Oh, my God!
1766
01:25:23,275 --> 01:25:25,689
-Like wrestlers.
-We're wrestlers.
1767
01:25:25,689 --> 01:25:29,827
[Robert] When we put on our
instruments, we're like
teenagers again.
1768
01:25:29,827 --> 01:25:32,413
We have a good time.
We joke around. We laugh.
1769
01:25:32,413 --> 01:25:34,931
Everything we do revolves
around the jam.
1770
01:25:34,931 --> 01:25:36,551
There seems to be
a certain energy
1771
01:25:36,551 --> 01:25:39,689
and magic that's
very pure about this music.
1772
01:25:41,724 --> 01:25:43,896
In 2016,
1773
01:25:43,896 --> 01:25:46,137
[narrator] Metallica
released Hardwired... to
Self-Destruct
1774
01:25:46,137 --> 01:25:48,862
to massive critical
and commercial acclaim.
1775
01:25:48,862 --> 01:25:51,758
We are super grateful to
still be where we are, you know?
1776
01:25:51,758 --> 01:25:55,896
We're in Mexico City right
here playing in front of
60,000 to 70,000 people
1777
01:25:55,896 --> 01:25:57,586
in one show.
1778
01:25:57,586 --> 01:25:59,517
It blows my mind.
1779
01:25:59,517 --> 01:26:02,413
[chanting]
1780
01:26:02,413 --> 01:26:05,655
[James] It's pretty remarkable
for bands like Megadeth,
Anthrax, Slayer,
1781
01:26:05,655 --> 01:26:09,482
and Exodus are still around
and still playing gigs.
1782
01:26:09,482 --> 01:26:12,793
I tell you, whatever you think
is going to happen to you,
1783
01:26:12,793 --> 01:26:15,413
you have no fricking idea.
You just don't.
1784
01:26:15,413 --> 01:26:19,068
If it wasn't for Cliff
and wasn't for those early
Metallica records,
1785
01:26:19,068 --> 01:26:21,137
I would not be there,
that's for sure,
1786
01:26:21,137 --> 01:26:23,103
and there would be
no Metal Allegiance.
1787
01:26:23,103 --> 01:26:25,586
Cliff was a fun bass player,
1788
01:26:25,586 --> 01:26:27,793
and you can feel that onstage.
1789
01:26:27,793 --> 01:26:31,827
For me, I'm honored
and blessed to be able
to play his bass lines
1790
01:26:31,827 --> 01:26:36,206
and celebrate him and his bass
playing to the world.
1791
01:26:36,206 --> 01:26:37,551
All over the world.
1792
01:26:37,551 --> 01:26:39,586
To take it there and share it.
1793
01:27:03,241 --> 01:27:07,275
If you and I were
sitting in 1982,
1794
01:27:07,275 --> 01:27:10,448
having a conversation
about the East Bay days,
1795
01:27:10,448 --> 01:27:13,137
obviously nobody at that time
1796
01:27:13,137 --> 01:27:14,517
would ever slow down long enough
1797
01:27:14,517 --> 01:27:17,793
to believe that
the music could have
1798
01:27:17,793 --> 01:27:22,206
and the scene could have
that kind of impact and
that kind of longevity.
1799
01:27:22,206 --> 01:27:24,551
[Sven] There's a shirt
that says, I think,
1800
01:27:24,551 --> 01:27:26,655
"Four Albums
And Still No Ballad!"
1801
01:27:26,655 --> 01:27:28,896
And they meant that,
because they weren't
about that, you know?
1802
01:27:28,896 --> 01:27:30,482
They weren't going to do it.
1803
01:27:30,482 --> 01:27:32,413
I love those guys.
They're still my friends.
1804
01:27:32,413 --> 01:27:33,862
They're like my brothers.
1805
01:27:33,862 --> 01:27:36,310
[heavy metal plays]
1806
01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:38,344
We didn't invent music.
We didn't invent metal.
1807
01:27:38,344 --> 01:27:41,103
We just took what we loved,
1808
01:27:41,103 --> 01:27:44,275
and we stood on
the backs of giants
1809
01:27:44,275 --> 01:27:46,413
and put our own two cents in.
1810
01:27:46,413 --> 01:27:49,103
That's all we did,
and out came thrash metal.
1811
01:27:51,379 --> 01:27:54,344
[Kirk] It was a real
happening that had
1812
01:27:54,344 --> 01:27:58,793
real far-reaching impacts
1813
01:27:58,793 --> 01:28:01,103
over music culture over time.
1814
01:28:03,931 --> 01:28:05,827
See, this wasn't here.
1815
01:28:05,827 --> 01:28:09,275
I'm wondering if the stage was
kind of where the bathroom was.
1816
01:28:09,275 --> 01:28:12,620
I think it was,
and this wall was exposed.
1817
01:28:12,620 --> 01:28:16,931
You know, we're talking
35 years ago and shit or more.
1818
01:28:16,931 --> 01:28:20,448
I'm surprised how nice
the park looks.
It's pretty awesome.
1819
01:28:20,448 --> 01:28:22,517
We did a lot of cover tunes.
We did "Gets Your Rocks Off"
1820
01:28:22,517 --> 01:28:25,551
by Def Leppard and "Wasted"
by Def Leppard.
1821
01:28:25,551 --> 01:28:27,724
Half of the first Maiden album.
1822
01:28:27,724 --> 01:28:30,275
Our friend bought Iron Maiden
Ijust because of the cover.
1823
01:28:30,275 --> 01:28:34,137
It was so fresh and new back
then that a lot of people
thought "Running Free"
1824
01:28:34,137 --> 01:28:35,827
was an Exodus original
for a little while.
1825
01:28:35,827 --> 01:28:38,000
We're like, no, sorry.
Can't take credit for that one.
1826
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,862
Yeah, "Prowler."
Like, I love that song
"Prowler."
1827
01:28:41,862 --> 01:28:43,413
That song rocks.
1828
01:28:43,413 --> 01:28:45,655
Kirk used to sing "Another Piece
of Me" by the Scorpions.
1829
01:28:45,655 --> 01:28:47,379
That was in my
high school band room,
1830
01:28:47,379 --> 01:28:50,586
back when I still
went to school.
1831
01:28:50,586 --> 01:28:53,724
[Kirk] It was a perfect storm
of all the people that we needed
1832
01:28:53,724 --> 01:28:58,103
to form a long-lasting
musical scene that went
on to do great things,
1833
01:28:58,103 --> 01:29:02,275
and the amazing thing about it
was we were all young, innocent,
1834
01:29:02,275 --> 01:29:04,482
and didn't know what
the fuck we were doing
1835
01:29:04,482 --> 01:29:06,034
or where it all was going.
1836
01:29:06,034 --> 01:29:08,206
It just happened.
1837
01:29:08,206 --> 01:29:11,551
It was like from heaven.
1838
01:29:11,551 --> 01:29:14,172
It was one of
the greatest times of my life.
1839
01:29:24,172 --> 01:29:26,551
You know, I was telling
somebody this morning
1840
01:29:26,551 --> 01:29:28,379
that I thought
Metallica played here.
1841
01:29:28,379 --> 01:29:31,000
No, no. Kirk Hammett
from Metallica,
1842
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,413
when he was a member
of our band Exodus, played here
when we were 16 years old.
1843
01:29:34,413 --> 01:29:36,241
-No, you guys are Exodus?
-Yeah.
1844
01:29:36,241 --> 01:29:37,965
I've been a fan forever.
1845
01:29:37,965 --> 01:29:39,586
That is so awesome.
You're back.
1846
01:29:39,586 --> 01:29:42,724
[narrator]Exodus continue
to play on around the world,
1847
01:29:42,724 --> 01:29:46,241
and still no
fucking ballads!
1848
01:29:46,241 --> 01:29:48,551
[theme music plays]
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