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CONDAL: Episode six was one of the big leaps for us, 9 00:00:29,030 --> 00:00:31,616 because you're not only jumping forward ten years in time, 10 00:00:31,616 --> 00:00:32,867 but you're recasting... 11 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:34,368 you're recasting the show midway through. 12 00:00:34,452 --> 00:00:36,954 We always spoke of it as our second pilot. 13 00:00:40,374 --> 00:00:42,502 You come in on Rhaenyra giving birth, 14 00:00:42,502 --> 00:00:45,296 and then the slow reveal being that this is her third, 15 00:00:45,296 --> 00:00:47,006 and that much time has passed. 16 00:00:47,006 --> 00:00:51,677 There's a ten-year time jump. You see her now husband Laenor. 17 00:00:51,761 --> 00:00:55,181 Harwin Strong, he's the actual father of all of these children. 18 00:00:55,181 --> 00:00:58,643 Viserys is slowly deteriorating, and Alicent, meanwhile, 19 00:00:58,643 --> 00:01:01,479 is strong and in her prime, and sort of running things. 20 00:01:01,479 --> 00:01:03,022 There's a lot of ground to cover. 21 00:01:03,022 --> 00:01:06,984 Making a determined time jump and then changing the main cast, 22 00:01:07,068 --> 00:01:08,778 it's just a brilliant way to do it. 23 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:14,575 We talked a lot about who should shift into being older versions of themselves, 24 00:01:14,867 --> 00:01:19,163 and we felt that Rhaenyra, Alicent, Laena and Laenor, 25 00:01:19,247 --> 00:01:22,416 they were important, they were all interacting with each other heavily, 26 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:24,794 and they had experienced that passage of time together, 27 00:01:24,794 --> 00:01:27,839 and it was a good way of grounding the time jump. 28 00:01:29,298 --> 00:01:30,758 The queen has requested 29 00:01:30,842 --> 00:01:32,301 that the child be brought to her. 30 00:01:32,844 --> 00:01:33,886 Immediately. 31 00:01:37,265 --> 00:01:39,265 Why? 32 00:01:39,265 --> 00:01:40,893 I remember the phrase that Ryan said about Rhaenyra, 33 00:01:40,977 --> 00:01:44,397 which is "she needs to be punk rock, non-conventional." 34 00:01:44,397 --> 00:01:45,940 You're looking at the Targaeryan line, 35 00:01:45,940 --> 00:01:48,359 you're looking at the Emilia Clarke association 36 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:49,735 further down the line. 37 00:01:49,819 --> 00:01:51,821 You know, you're looking at the woman that set everything 38 00:01:51,821 --> 00:01:54,740 in motion, and that has to be a force of nature. 39 00:01:55,283 --> 00:01:59,954 Somebody with intelligence and feels other-worldly. 40 00:01:59,954 --> 00:02:01,205 And that's Emma. 41 00:02:01,289 --> 00:02:06,210 Emma does not fit into a slot that is easy. 42 00:02:06,294 --> 00:02:10,172 Emma is such a striking, unique presence. 43 00:02:10,256 --> 00:02:13,426 When I first saw them in the audition, 44 00:02:13,426 --> 00:02:17,263 it was like I couldn't imagine the role being played by anybody else. 45 00:02:17,555 --> 00:02:21,183 With Alicent and Rhaenyra, we were focusing 46 00:02:21,267 --> 00:02:22,935 on the adult versions first. 47 00:02:23,561 --> 00:02:25,187 I had to keep reminding everybody 48 00:02:25,271 --> 00:02:26,772 the people that were going to be leading the charge 49 00:02:26,856 --> 00:02:28,316 were going to be their younger versions. 50 00:02:29,775 --> 00:02:32,862 Milly Alcock, she read and it was just a gift 51 00:02:32,862 --> 00:02:34,906 from the gods. We were very lucky. 52 00:02:34,906 --> 00:02:37,909 She is a remarkable version for younger Emma. 53 00:02:37,909 --> 00:02:40,244 I see them in the costume and I'm like... 54 00:02:40,328 --> 00:02:41,495 "Is that what I'm gonna... 55 00:02:42,038 --> 00:02:43,080 I look great!" 56 00:02:43,956 --> 00:02:47,793 Rhaenyra. You should be resting after your labors. 57 00:02:48,711 --> 00:02:51,631 Olivia is probably the most seasoned actress of them. 58 00:02:51,631 --> 00:02:55,301 We wanted her in the show. She did such a strong audtition. 59 00:02:55,301 --> 00:02:57,929 We got Olivia to read for Rhaenyra as well 60 00:02:57,929 --> 00:03:00,348 and she did astonishing reads for both of them. 61 00:03:00,890 --> 00:03:05,478 It became clearer that she would be better suited to Alicent, 62 00:03:05,478 --> 00:03:08,397 and certainly, once we'd met Emily, 63 00:03:08,481 --> 00:03:11,275 the pair of them were wonderful. 64 00:03:11,359 --> 00:03:14,111 Olivia, I've been in awe of her work for years, 65 00:03:14,195 --> 00:03:16,656 and so to play the younger version of her 66 00:03:16,656 --> 00:03:17,949 is a blessing. 67 00:03:17,949 --> 00:03:20,826 Miguel and Ryan had said Alicent is probably the character 68 00:03:20,910 --> 00:03:23,037 that changes the most in that time jump. 69 00:03:23,496 --> 00:03:26,123 There are multiple things that we both portrayed 70 00:03:26,207 --> 00:03:29,043 through Alicent that connects the two characters together. 71 00:03:29,043 --> 00:03:33,422 But where my Alicent leaves and where hers begins, 72 00:03:33,506 --> 00:03:35,549 they are almost completely different people. 73 00:03:35,633 --> 00:03:37,718 If Rhaenyra comes into power, 74 00:03:38,386 --> 00:03:40,846 your very life could be forfeit. 75 00:03:41,180 --> 00:03:44,475 I do feel like we lucked out with our Alicents 76 00:03:44,475 --> 00:03:45,810 and our Rhaenyras. 77 00:03:46,268 --> 00:03:48,896 I think for me, it's always about the energy. 78 00:03:49,397 --> 00:03:54,193 Milly and Emily reflected the energy of Emma and Olivia. 79 00:03:54,902 --> 00:03:57,238 The show is very demanding just in terms 80 00:03:57,238 --> 00:03:58,406 of the sheer number of actors 81 00:03:58,406 --> 00:04:00,116 but also the quality of the performer 82 00:04:00,116 --> 00:04:02,034 because they're deeply nuanced roles. 83 00:04:02,118 --> 00:04:03,911 Kate brought forward an amazing pool. 84 00:04:03,995 --> 00:04:07,164 It took a lot of doing but we were able to put together a hell of a cast. 85 00:04:08,749 --> 00:04:11,002 A boy. I've just heard. 86 00:04:11,002 --> 00:04:12,628 - Yes. - Well done. 87 00:04:13,212 --> 00:04:16,590 In order to play Laenor as we find him in episode six, 88 00:04:16,674 --> 00:04:20,845 I really had to know exactly who he was before the time jump. 89 00:04:21,554 --> 00:04:24,306 But I was cast first and started filming 90 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:27,059 and looked up and I saw this person walk in. 91 00:04:27,143 --> 00:04:29,228 And I looked at him, and then he looked at me... 92 00:04:29,312 --> 00:04:31,397 We'd seen each other across the room, and I was like... 93 00:04:31,397 --> 00:04:35,401 I said, "Are you me?" And he went, "Yes." 94 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:41,240 I had some talks with Miguel and he gave me a few treats 95 00:04:41,324 --> 00:04:43,701 about the character that he would say 96 00:04:43,701 --> 00:04:45,536 to the other girls as well, I think. 97 00:04:45,786 --> 00:04:48,372 There are similar things that I'm guessing they'll say 98 00:04:48,456 --> 00:04:50,041 to all of us about our characters. 99 00:04:50,041 --> 00:04:51,250 I haven't met them. 100 00:04:51,250 --> 00:04:53,210 It's going to be exciting to see who they are 101 00:04:53,294 --> 00:04:55,129 and how they interpret the character. 102 00:04:55,671 --> 00:05:00,009 I've never done that part where I've shared with an actor before. 103 00:05:00,009 --> 00:05:04,096 I asked to meet them and Miguel was like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah," 104 00:05:04,180 --> 00:05:05,765 and never set it up. So I was like, 105 00:05:05,765 --> 00:05:09,769 "I think this is a strategic move on their part." 106 00:05:09,769 --> 00:05:13,105 It's a complicated thing because even when you're not watching that work, 107 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:15,274 you are building something together. 108 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:18,235 When I'm Queen, I will create a new order. 109 00:05:21,405 --> 00:05:24,408 It was really important that Miguel direct episode six 110 00:05:24,492 --> 00:05:26,118 to set the tone for the time jump 111 00:05:26,202 --> 00:05:28,162 because the visual tone of the show changes 112 00:05:28,162 --> 00:05:30,581 and becomes less original Game of Thrones 113 00:05:30,581 --> 00:05:32,750 and more specific to House of The Dragon. 114 00:05:32,750 --> 00:05:35,461 We made the decision that instead of jumping 115 00:05:35,461 --> 00:05:38,047 between characters as you normally would, 116 00:05:38,047 --> 00:05:40,466 to stay with each character for a much longer time 117 00:05:40,466 --> 00:05:41,801 so you could settle into their world 118 00:05:41,801 --> 00:05:43,010 and into their head. 119 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:46,555 I think it just routes you into each of their worlds 120 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:48,224 and where they are right away. 121 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:51,519 It was new actors playing new roles. 122 00:05:51,519 --> 00:05:53,771 We were going to spend more time with the characters 123 00:05:53,771 --> 00:05:55,397 actually moving with them. 124 00:05:55,898 --> 00:05:59,443 We're saying to you this person that you got used to, Milly, 125 00:05:59,527 --> 00:06:02,905 is no longer Rhaenyra, she's Emma. 126 00:06:03,572 --> 00:06:06,700 We wanted our audience to have an opportunity 127 00:06:06,784 --> 00:06:09,703 to really examine that particular actor 128 00:06:09,787 --> 00:06:12,039 and feel comfortable with them, 129 00:06:12,123 --> 00:06:13,874 and this seemed like a really good way to do it. 130 00:06:14,125 --> 00:06:17,461 EMMA D'ARCY: For five episodes, an audience have sat with this person, 131 00:06:17,753 --> 00:06:20,297 have fallen in love with this person, 132 00:06:20,548 --> 00:06:21,882 have developed affection for them, 133 00:06:21,966 --> 00:06:23,509 and then suddenly, I'm going to walk in 134 00:06:23,509 --> 00:06:27,179 and change their face and body and tell them to like me. 135 00:06:28,347 --> 00:06:30,599 D'ARCY: You come in on the back foot in a way. 136 00:06:30,850 --> 00:06:35,938 The moment Rhaenyra gives birth, until she meets Alicent 137 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:37,857 was not in the original script. 138 00:06:38,315 --> 00:06:40,651 - She wants to see him. - Now? 139 00:06:40,651 --> 00:06:42,736 I thought, "Well, if we're going to have this set, 140 00:06:42,820 --> 00:06:45,531 I would like us to inhabit it properly," 141 00:06:45,781 --> 00:06:48,617 which is why the opening actually follows our characters 142 00:06:48,701 --> 00:06:51,287 in a single continuous take all the way through. 143 00:06:52,955 --> 00:06:54,832 We are turning back, all right? 144 00:06:54,832 --> 00:06:56,625 We needed to come in on this relationship 145 00:06:56,709 --> 00:06:58,836 that you completely bought and I don't think 146 00:06:58,836 --> 00:07:00,337 there's any other way of buying it 147 00:07:00,421 --> 00:07:02,006 than spending time with them. 148 00:07:02,798 --> 00:07:04,592 What happy news this morning. 149 00:07:04,884 --> 00:07:06,177 Indeed, Your Grace. 150 00:07:06,635 --> 00:07:08,429 We needed everybody to kind of jump in, 151 00:07:08,429 --> 00:07:10,181 and the feeling is if you're gonna hang in 152 00:07:10,181 --> 00:07:12,683 for the first 20 minutes and realize what's going on 153 00:07:12,683 --> 00:07:15,186 and follow it, then you'll be in for the ride. 154 00:07:15,436 --> 00:07:16,854 Action! 155 00:07:20,858 --> 00:07:22,860 Well, we know that we've got the two characters, 156 00:07:22,860 --> 00:07:26,405 so we have to take elements of one across to the other 157 00:07:26,405 --> 00:07:29,033 and vice versa, and you do it to make it look 158 00:07:29,033 --> 00:07:31,410 practically the best that you can. 159 00:07:31,952 --> 00:07:35,915 We used elements of some of the very early episodes of the plaiting. 160 00:07:36,415 --> 00:07:39,126 The wig is obviously the same color palette. 161 00:07:39,793 --> 00:07:41,670 It's lots of little things that we do, 162 00:07:42,004 --> 00:07:44,173 things like eyebrows and lip shape. 163 00:07:44,173 --> 00:07:46,759 I normally find a mole or a freckle or something 164 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:48,761 and continue that across. 165 00:07:48,761 --> 00:07:50,596 We go through a more youthful look 166 00:07:50,596 --> 00:07:52,890 to get the changeover between cast. 167 00:07:53,140 --> 00:07:55,935 Working with Olivia, it was really interesting 168 00:07:55,935 --> 00:07:58,020 to see the development of the character 169 00:07:58,020 --> 00:08:00,940 having jumped on the years, and when we see her, 170 00:08:00,940 --> 00:08:02,733 she's a really confident queen. 171 00:08:02,733 --> 00:08:04,693 We used fantastic fabrics on her. 172 00:08:04,777 --> 00:08:07,988 Really luxurious and extravagant, 173 00:08:08,072 --> 00:08:11,200 and it just carried on the evolvement of the character. 174 00:08:12,034 --> 00:08:14,745 Six-Bravo take two, common board on Echo and Golf. 175 00:08:15,537 --> 00:08:17,537 Action! 176 00:08:17,537 --> 00:08:21,293 The change of age, the change of social situation, 177 00:08:21,377 --> 00:08:24,755 I dressed up Milly and I dressed up Emma. 178 00:08:24,755 --> 00:08:26,632 They are two different personalities, 179 00:08:26,632 --> 00:08:29,176 two different actresses, because there's a difference 180 00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:32,930 between a teenager and a woman. 181 00:08:33,472 --> 00:08:35,266 D'ARCY: The thing that I really like about it is that, 182 00:08:35,266 --> 00:08:38,769 actually, when I think about myself as a younger person, 183 00:08:38,769 --> 00:08:41,647 I don't always recognize them or I perceive them to be 184 00:08:41,647 --> 00:08:43,774 a different person to the one I am now. 185 00:08:44,191 --> 00:08:47,569 I think the poetry and the form is that there's obviously 186 00:08:47,653 --> 00:08:50,739 lots that carries through, but we allow that younger self 187 00:08:50,823 --> 00:08:52,908 to be a different person to an extent. 188 00:08:54,994 --> 00:08:57,162 Emma D'Arcy and Olivia Cooke's portrayal 189 00:08:57,246 --> 00:08:59,456 of Rhaenyra and Alicent are so compelling, 190 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:00,791 that I think you have no choice 191 00:09:00,791 --> 00:09:03,252 but to buckling up and going along for the ride. 192 00:09:23,605 --> 00:09:25,149 We're in Pinto because I really wanted 193 00:09:25,149 --> 00:09:27,401 to shoot something in Spain, and gradually 194 00:09:27,401 --> 00:09:28,986 I was talking myself out of doing 195 00:09:28,986 --> 00:09:31,155 any of the fun stuff on this show, 196 00:09:31,155 --> 00:09:35,492 and generally getting stuck in, like, a quarry in Belfast, 197 00:09:35,576 --> 00:09:37,953 which is where I usually spend most of my time shooting. 198 00:09:40,664 --> 00:09:44,585 So we had seen these photos of this beautiful 199 00:09:44,585 --> 00:09:46,879 Moorish castle in Spain. 200 00:09:47,379 --> 00:09:49,256 I loved that castle from the first time 201 00:09:49,340 --> 00:09:51,050 Jim showed us pictures of it because it looks like 202 00:09:51,050 --> 00:09:53,802 something from Game of Thrones, because the exterior is Moorish 203 00:09:54,053 --> 00:09:56,096 and the interior is sort of Italian revival, 204 00:09:56,180 --> 00:09:58,599 and it's a fantasy place that's real. 205 00:09:59,058 --> 00:10:01,685 When I saw the castle, I was like, "Where is it?" 206 00:10:01,769 --> 00:10:05,105 And then you see it up on a hill and it was just beautiful. 207 00:10:05,189 --> 00:10:07,983 It's something when you're on location that's just special. 208 00:10:10,527 --> 00:10:12,363 I think it's important, I think a show like this, 209 00:10:12,363 --> 00:10:16,367 a lot of it is studio based and I think the more big, grand 210 00:10:16,367 --> 00:10:19,161 location stuff you can do, the better, really, 211 00:10:19,161 --> 00:10:23,207 because it needs to feel outdoors and it needs to have scale. 212 00:10:23,207 --> 00:10:26,585 To Aegon The Conqueror, our exalted Forbear. 213 00:10:28,253 --> 00:10:29,421 Aegon The Conqueror. 214 00:10:29,505 --> 00:10:30,881 To Aegon. 215 00:10:33,384 --> 00:10:35,427 It is a stunning location, 216 00:10:35,511 --> 00:10:36,637 and when you come here 217 00:10:36,637 --> 00:10:38,555 because it's such a solid-looking castle, 218 00:10:38,639 --> 00:10:41,475 you've got no idea how ornate the interior is. 219 00:10:41,725 --> 00:10:45,104 So we wanted to preserve that surprise, if you like. 220 00:10:45,604 --> 00:10:47,815 In some ways, as a concept artist, you can relax a bit 221 00:10:47,815 --> 00:10:49,400 because the architecture is already there, 222 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,235 it's already sort of been designed for you. 223 00:10:51,235 --> 00:10:53,445 So it's just a case of recreating it. 224 00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:57,074 Somewhere as old as that, the first time that was seen, 225 00:10:57,074 --> 00:10:59,576 birds had been living in it for years and years and years, 226 00:10:59,660 --> 00:11:03,330 so it needed a real thorough kind of hazmat clean. 227 00:11:04,706 --> 00:11:05,874 We had to paint the whole thing, 228 00:11:05,958 --> 00:11:07,501 painted all the walls the darker tones. 229 00:11:07,501 --> 00:11:10,546 We built library shelves in there, and turned the whole, 230 00:11:10,546 --> 00:11:14,716 kind of top floor of the courtyard into Daemon's library. 231 00:11:15,634 --> 00:11:18,095 We created about 2000 books in the end, 232 00:11:18,095 --> 00:11:19,096 but we cheated it, 233 00:11:19,388 --> 00:11:22,433 because you only see the front 50 mill of the spine, 234 00:11:22,433 --> 00:11:24,476 and we would cast them out in biscuit foam, 235 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:25,561 which is a lightweight material, 236 00:11:25,894 --> 00:11:28,272 and the finish is what makes it really, 237 00:11:28,272 --> 00:11:31,150 you couldn't tell they weren't full books in the end. 238 00:11:32,568 --> 00:11:34,445 The library was quite challenging, 239 00:11:34,445 --> 00:11:37,239 but the beauty of it is when the light comes through 240 00:11:37,239 --> 00:11:38,907 down the center of the courtyard. 241 00:11:38,991 --> 00:11:41,118 The light that hits all the different furniture, 242 00:11:41,118 --> 00:11:43,954 and color and leather and texture and fabric, 243 00:11:43,954 --> 00:11:45,873 is beautiful, absolutely beautiful. 244 00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:47,791 They are using us. 245 00:11:47,875 --> 00:11:49,251 Refreshing isn't it? 246 00:11:52,004 --> 00:11:53,755 The art department did an amazing job 247 00:11:53,839 --> 00:11:55,132 that it looked so natural, 248 00:11:55,132 --> 00:11:57,885 and it looks that it's always been there, 249 00:11:57,885 --> 00:12:00,721 that at the end, they ask if they can keep it. 250 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:04,850 You have to work around the health and safety elements there that, you know, 251 00:12:04,850 --> 00:12:06,226 people will fall through the floor 252 00:12:06,310 --> 00:12:08,312 if you have too many people in that corner. 253 00:12:08,812 --> 00:12:12,274 But we made it work, and we have to believe it as we found it, 254 00:12:12,274 --> 00:12:14,151 short of putting the bird ship back in. 255 00:12:20,741 --> 00:12:22,701 Six was written by Sara Hess, 256 00:12:22,701 --> 00:12:27,247 and Sara and I have worked together before on House. 257 00:12:27,331 --> 00:12:31,126 She actually wrote the first episode of television that I directed. 258 00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:36,673 It was about getting away from where we had been. 259 00:12:37,299 --> 00:12:42,554 And Pentos is, effectively, you know, it's kind of-- It's Morocco, it's Ibiza. 260 00:12:42,638 --> 00:12:45,390 It's like-- it's somewhere far away that's kind of nice, 261 00:12:45,474 --> 00:12:47,351 and you don't really need to come back from. 262 00:12:48,352 --> 00:12:51,772 It was a little-- just an island, where we were doing all these scenes. 263 00:12:51,772 --> 00:12:55,025 And it really felt, in that moment, like we were far away from everything, 264 00:12:55,025 --> 00:12:57,194 and making this little domestic drama. 265 00:12:57,194 --> 00:13:00,447 And yeah, it has a really interesting feeling to it 266 00:13:00,531 --> 00:13:02,783 that I think is different from everything that's come before it. 267 00:13:02,783 --> 00:13:04,576 We are not minstrels or mummers 268 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:06,870 who play at the pleasure of an alien prince. 269 00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:12,417 The Pentos story in episode six is a bit of a short film. 270 00:13:12,668 --> 00:13:15,212 So much was going on in the Westeros side of the story 271 00:13:15,212 --> 00:13:17,214 that we only had so much time to devote to it. 272 00:13:17,214 --> 00:13:20,926 So we were like, "Okay, what are the three or four key beats that we have to hit? 273 00:13:20,926 --> 00:13:24,096 And how do we dramatize them in a super efficient way 274 00:13:24,096 --> 00:13:25,973 that feels like you're moving through a story quickly, 275 00:13:25,973 --> 00:13:29,017 but not that-- just that you're ticking boxes as you go along?" 276 00:13:29,101 --> 00:13:30,102 This point, that felt natural. 277 00:13:30,102 --> 00:13:31,603 So I think you do it until, you know... 278 00:13:31,687 --> 00:13:33,063 - Let's do the same thing. - Yeah. 279 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,732 Honestly, I mean, I can say this 'cause I didn't write it, Sara wrote it, 280 00:13:35,816 --> 00:13:38,277 but it's one of my favorite sequences in the whole show. 281 00:13:38,277 --> 00:13:39,903 But you are more than this, Daemon. 282 00:13:39,987 --> 00:13:43,156 The man I married is more than this. 283 00:13:49,955 --> 00:13:53,709 Everyone knows that Harwin is, in fact, the father of Rhaenyra's children. 284 00:13:53,959 --> 00:13:57,671 No one will admit it, because the King has decreed that it isn't so. 285 00:13:57,671 --> 00:14:01,508 And this is an opportunity to push Harwin's buttons. 286 00:14:03,468 --> 00:14:05,554 Harwin Strong is from the Riverlands. 287 00:14:05,554 --> 00:14:07,514 That's where the Trident all intersects. 288 00:14:07,598 --> 00:14:09,808 He's known to be an incredible knight. 289 00:14:10,309 --> 00:14:11,893 Strangely enough, they call him Breakbones 290 00:14:11,977 --> 00:14:14,771 because I think he has a reputation for breaking a few bones. 291 00:14:15,105 --> 00:14:18,734 Rowley choreographed quite an elaborate fight between them. 292 00:14:18,734 --> 00:14:22,154 And I came and had a look, and said, "No..." 293 00:14:22,154 --> 00:14:24,031 Most fights are over pretty quickly. 294 00:14:24,031 --> 00:14:25,866 And if someone like Harwin, 295 00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:28,619 who we've established as being a one punch kinda guy, 296 00:14:28,619 --> 00:14:31,997 if he lays into you and you are un-protected, it's over. 297 00:14:32,831 --> 00:14:36,251 Your interest in the princeling's training is quite unusual, Commander. 298 00:14:36,627 --> 00:14:42,049 Most men would only have that kind of devotion towards a cousin, or... a brother... 299 00:14:44,259 --> 00:14:46,259 Or a son. 300 00:14:48,597 --> 00:14:51,433 Harwin gets baited, and he takes the bait. 301 00:14:51,433 --> 00:14:53,185 It was really stupid. 302 00:15:00,233 --> 00:15:03,028 It's really an impulsive reaction to the threat of his family. 303 00:15:03,028 --> 00:15:04,154 Say it again! 304 00:15:04,905 --> 00:15:07,115 Even though he's very adept at fighting back, Cole does not fight back. 305 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:09,826 He takes the blows, because he wants to expose 306 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:12,162 Harwin and Rhaenyra for what they are. 307 00:15:12,162 --> 00:15:13,580 Thought as much. 308 00:15:17,042 --> 00:15:21,254 Ryan and Fabien fight really well. They're skilled and they listen. 309 00:15:21,338 --> 00:15:22,631 So that's the key to it, you know? 310 00:15:23,340 --> 00:15:26,635 There's no arrogance there. They're really easy to work with and really easy to deal with. 311 00:15:26,635 --> 00:15:28,929 I remember when I first got cast I was sort of like, you know, 312 00:15:28,929 --> 00:15:30,597 I said to my agent, I was like, you know, 313 00:15:30,681 --> 00:15:32,057 "The stunt stuff, I want to do myself. 314 00:15:32,057 --> 00:15:34,601 The sword stuff, let me do it. Like, I'm happy to do it." 315 00:15:34,976 --> 00:15:39,314 I regretted that two weeks in after, like, a couple of hours boxing training with Rowley. 316 00:15:39,648 --> 00:15:42,109 Heaving over in the corner, trying to catch my breath, 317 00:15:42,359 --> 00:15:44,403 or, like, on take 50 of trying to swing a punch. 318 00:15:44,403 --> 00:15:46,613 It's, um... It's a lot harder than it looks. 319 00:15:47,114 --> 00:15:49,866 But ultimately, it's like a dance, it's like choreography. 320 00:15:49,950 --> 00:15:52,661 And then doing that dance a number of times once you get there on set. 321 00:15:55,997 --> 00:15:58,375 We are generally working with actors 322 00:15:58,375 --> 00:16:04,756 that have not had four or five seasons of experience on previous seasons. 323 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,051 These guys are all kind of fresh out of the box, especially the children. 324 00:16:08,135 --> 00:16:09,928 So you're teaching them from scratch. 325 00:16:11,012 --> 00:16:13,682 Ryan was helping me get into that moment. 326 00:16:13,682 --> 00:16:15,684 After seeing it, it was really cool. 327 00:16:16,393 --> 00:16:19,688 It was great working with the kids. They're just happy to be there. 328 00:16:19,688 --> 00:16:20,897 Is there anything greater? 329 00:16:21,523 --> 00:16:25,736 You're getting paid money to go skip school and learn to fight with swords. 330 00:16:25,736 --> 00:16:28,405 Say something-- Say something rememberable. 331 00:16:31,533 --> 00:16:32,659 When children are involved, it's always-- 332 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:35,746 It's a totally different situation from when we're dealing with adults. 333 00:16:35,746 --> 00:16:40,208 Every attempt in every situation is done to make everything safe, whether it's adults or children. 334 00:16:40,292 --> 00:16:44,171 There's always that sort of pang of uncontro 335 00:16:44,171 --> 00:16:47,424 when you're handing a rubber weapon to a child. 336 00:16:47,716 --> 00:16:48,884 We've done our fight scene. 337 00:16:49,301 --> 00:16:53,096 And we rehearsed that for months and months leading up to it. 338 00:16:53,805 --> 00:16:56,266 And it went really well. It was great. 339 00:16:57,893 --> 00:17:01,146 We've been working with Rowley and the whole stunt team. 340 00:17:01,146 --> 00:17:04,566 And so, we've been like training and stuff, and learning. 341 00:17:04,566 --> 00:17:07,527 And we've also done rehearsals, so I'm pretty... 342 00:17:07,611 --> 00:17:08,945 I'm pretty set, I think. 343 00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:11,448 Hopefully, I should get it right on the day. 344 00:17:11,865 --> 00:17:13,450 All these scenes are like so cool. 345 00:17:13,450 --> 00:17:16,453 As an actor, you know, you don't get many shows where 346 00:17:16,453 --> 00:17:20,123 you get to be with a dragon or, like, fight with swords. 347 00:17:20,207 --> 00:17:21,583 So it's gonna be awesome. 348 00:17:23,418 --> 00:17:27,005 Those stunts are so well choreographed by the stunt team and Rowley. 349 00:17:27,255 --> 00:17:29,216 And they are amazing. 350 00:17:29,216 --> 00:17:32,469 I mean, they showed us multiple times that day, and before. 351 00:17:32,969 --> 00:17:38,975 And just seeing them do it, I was inspired to be as good as I can, being in that scene. 352 00:17:39,434 --> 00:17:41,645 Yeah, I mean, it's what you dream about, really, as a kid. 353 00:17:41,645 --> 00:17:45,565 I mean, I remember being the age of like five to six and younger, 354 00:17:45,649 --> 00:17:50,654 dreaming about being that sword fighter and that hero or villain. 355 00:17:50,904 --> 00:17:54,991 You know, fighting against my mates, all my boys. 356 00:17:57,244 --> 00:17:58,620 We're doing-- We're doing something-- 357 00:17:58,620 --> 00:18:00,205 - You broke-- - You broke our shot! 358 00:18:00,205 --> 00:18:01,623 Fabien, you ruined the shot! 359 00:18:01,623 --> 00:18:03,542 - Sorry, sorry, sorry. - What are you doing? 360 00:18:11,591 --> 00:18:14,761 Larys found an opportunity where it would be quite good 361 00:18:14,845 --> 00:18:18,515 to maybe get rid of some members of his family. 362 00:18:18,515 --> 00:18:22,561 And he can't do it himself, so he finds desperate people who have nothing to lose. 363 00:18:22,561 --> 00:18:26,231 So he goes into the dungeons where he works, and he finds three prisoners. 364 00:18:26,231 --> 00:18:27,566 And he gives them the option that, 365 00:18:27,566 --> 00:18:29,568 "You can either stay here and die, 366 00:18:29,943 --> 00:18:34,948 or you can come work for me and do some dirty work." 367 00:18:35,532 --> 00:18:38,493 I'm prepared to offer you mercy, 368 00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:41,872 if you're prepared to pay a little price. 369 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,630 Originally written as the whole of Harrenhal burns, 370 00:18:50,714 --> 00:18:54,676 reduced to a set which was not fire retardant. 371 00:18:54,676 --> 00:18:56,678 So we couldn't actually burn anything in it. 372 00:18:56,678 --> 00:18:58,221 And yet, somehow, it worked. 373 00:18:58,513 --> 00:19:02,058 So we were looking for some way in which we could bring this all together. 374 00:19:02,434 --> 00:19:06,271 What if they're just both on the other side of a door, 375 00:19:06,271 --> 00:19:08,732 and all we make is the door and the back wall? 376 00:19:08,732 --> 00:19:10,817 And we ended up with the scene like that. 377 00:19:11,151 --> 00:19:13,151 Harwin! 378 00:19:17,449 --> 00:19:18,909 We're bringing up the fire effects, 379 00:19:18,909 --> 00:19:20,869 so we see a little bit of fire and flame. 380 00:19:20,869 --> 00:19:23,538 So we just used a couple of flame bars, a bit of smoke machine. 381 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:27,125 I did some additional lighting to push some of the warmer light 382 00:19:27,125 --> 00:19:28,710 through the cracks of the doors, so you-- 383 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:30,295 Suggesting a bit of fire. 384 00:19:30,295 --> 00:19:31,963 So we never actually see anyone burn. 385 00:19:32,047 --> 00:19:33,798 And we just did some very simple flame 386 00:19:33,882 --> 00:19:37,302 in the foreground of the camera, the foreground of the shot. 387 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:45,602 Gavin was given at least six proper wrought iron rods to bang the door with. 388 00:19:45,602 --> 00:19:49,981 And he literally bent every single one, which was quite impressive. 389 00:19:50,523 --> 00:19:52,776 They gave me a rubber fire poker, 390 00:19:52,776 --> 00:19:55,278 and I'm hitting this door, and it just-- 391 00:19:55,362 --> 00:19:57,697 It just looked like a wobbly fire poke. 392 00:19:57,948 --> 00:19:59,491 So they gave me a metal one. 393 00:19:59,491 --> 00:20:02,077 And, you know, because you're "in the moment," 394 00:20:02,077 --> 00:20:05,288 I was smashing the absolute s-h-i-t out of this door. 395 00:20:05,372 --> 00:20:10,669 And I bent this proper metal poker in half, screaming at my son. 396 00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:12,045 And I lost my voice. 397 00:20:12,754 --> 00:20:14,089 Harwin! 398 00:20:14,089 --> 00:20:15,674 - Cut! - Cut. 399 00:20:15,674 --> 00:20:17,759 I've broken the prop. I can't speak. 400 00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:20,011 This is a nightmare. 401 00:20:20,095 --> 00:20:22,013 So, we did quite a few takes of that, 402 00:20:22,347 --> 00:20:26,309 which, of course, Miguel likes to keep pushing you to the limit. 403 00:20:26,726 --> 00:20:28,269 And he kinda did that day. 404 00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:31,022 - Um, Ryan? - Yes? 405 00:20:32,565 --> 00:20:35,318 The actor has disabled the door. 406 00:20:37,153 --> 00:20:41,825 Very sad ending for both of them, but it'll make Larys a wonderfully-hated villain. 407 00:20:41,825 --> 00:20:46,162 And me and Gav both joke about, you know, if they need a Ghost of Harrenhal 408 00:20:46,246 --> 00:20:49,124 or someone else under a mask, we can always come back for that later. 409 00:20:50,667 --> 00:20:55,714 Originally, we weren't sure which episode Harwin and Lyonel were going to die in. 410 00:20:55,714 --> 00:20:59,384 It was maybe going to be seven. We weren't sure where to put it. 411 00:20:59,384 --> 00:21:01,428 And we had two deaths by fire, 412 00:21:01,428 --> 00:21:03,722 which felt like it was either going to be too many deaths, 413 00:21:03,722 --> 00:21:07,475 or you just put them together and make it a thematic, side-by-side thing, 414 00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:10,020 which ended up being the best way to go. 415 00:21:15,775 --> 00:21:17,402 Well, Laena made it very clear to us, I think, 416 00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:19,362 earlier in the story, that she doesn't... 417 00:21:19,654 --> 00:21:21,906 she doesn't want to go out the prescribed way. 418 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:24,367 She's a dragon rider. She rides the most fearsome dragon on Earth. 419 00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:28,580 And she wants to... she wants to die a dragon rider's death. I don't think she means tonight. 420 00:21:29,122 --> 00:21:32,000 But, you know, in Game of Thrones, you never know when... 421 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,960 when the stranger's gonna come knocking. 422 00:21:36,296 --> 00:21:37,839 I've reached the limit of my art. 423 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:40,675 So, I feel like the last scene with Laena, 424 00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:43,219 when she decides to die by a dragon, 425 00:21:43,303 --> 00:21:46,014 is actually the scene where we see that she 426 00:21:46,014 --> 00:21:48,850 takes control of her life the first time. 427 00:21:49,184 --> 00:21:53,855 That's kind of the scene, like, "This is-- I am gonna decide how I will die. 428 00:21:53,855 --> 00:21:57,859 I'm not gonna die by some blade of some contentious surgeon. 429 00:21:57,859 --> 00:22:01,071 I'm gonna die by my dragon, 'cause I'm a dragon rider." 430 00:22:01,446 --> 00:22:03,281 It's like her going out with a bang. 431 00:22:05,992 --> 00:22:08,495 It's funny, you know, 'cause people always say, 432 00:22:08,495 --> 00:22:10,663 "Oh, that must have been a really heavy scene to direct." 433 00:22:10,747 --> 00:22:13,541 And I always think to myself, "Oh, this is gonna be a really heavy scene to direct." 434 00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:18,963 But generally speaking, one of the things that lots of actors are incredibly good at doing, 435 00:22:19,047 --> 00:22:23,635 is when they're doing emotionally wrought. 436 00:22:23,885 --> 00:22:27,305 Especially kind of distressing or disturbing scenes, 437 00:22:27,389 --> 00:22:31,142 they find a sense of humor and levity that gets them through it. 438 00:22:31,226 --> 00:22:35,230 And that's infectious, and it creates a very good atmosphere on set. 439 00:22:35,230 --> 00:22:37,482 And this was no exception. 440 00:22:38,525 --> 00:22:41,319 When Miguel was talking to me about the scene, he was like, 441 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:43,696 "So you imagine, you know, you see Vhagar. 442 00:22:43,780 --> 00:22:45,990 You can imagine that truck standing there, that's like Vhagar." 443 00:22:46,074 --> 00:22:48,159 And then he was like, "No, that's Vhagar's face." 444 00:22:48,451 --> 00:22:50,451 She is huge. 445 00:22:50,451 --> 00:22:53,873 Just to imagine like this enormous dragon in front of you was kind of hard. 446 00:22:53,957 --> 00:22:57,418 And then you have this guy standing with a stick and a tennis ball. 447 00:22:57,502 --> 00:22:59,504 And, like, that's Vhagar's eye. 448 00:22:59,504 --> 00:23:02,423 And you're like, "Okay. Let's do this." 449 00:23:02,966 --> 00:23:04,676 I'm happy with the scene, but it was tough. 450 00:23:04,676 --> 00:23:08,263 It was windy. It was cold. And I was barefoot on all the stones. 451 00:23:08,263 --> 00:23:11,182 And there was blood coming everywhere. 452 00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:12,934 But you just do it. 453 00:23:13,810 --> 00:23:18,731 In those kind of circumstances, you just go, "Okay, this is so weird, but I just have to." 454 00:23:19,399 --> 00:23:21,609 Vhagar... Dracarys! 455 00:23:26,948 --> 00:23:27,949 Dracarys! 456 00:23:28,908 --> 00:23:32,495 It's another one of those scenes where it's a human and a dragon interacting. 457 00:23:32,579 --> 00:23:35,248 And it's such an emotional scene. 458 00:23:35,248 --> 00:23:38,126 I'm really hoping they're just absolutely devastated. 459 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,253 Dracarys... 460 00:23:46,301 --> 00:23:48,845 We had a special effects rig up on top of... 461 00:23:49,387 --> 00:23:52,182 a bit of scaffolding that would blast flames. 462 00:23:52,182 --> 00:23:54,225 But obviously, we couldn't do that with Nanna in there. 463 00:23:54,309 --> 00:23:56,686 So, she would do her performance, 464 00:23:56,686 --> 00:23:58,271 then we did all of her coverage. 465 00:23:58,271 --> 00:24:00,440 And then we would get her out of the way. 466 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,859 And then there was a representation of her body shape 467 00:24:02,859 --> 00:24:05,320 out of what looked like a knight. 468 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,487 It was all steel. 469 00:24:07,197 --> 00:24:10,158 It had a wig and it had its own costume. 470 00:24:10,491 --> 00:24:13,745 It was doused in fuel, and then the special effects boys 471 00:24:13,745 --> 00:24:17,248 took great pleasure in blasting it with a flamethrower. 472 00:24:17,332 --> 00:24:18,958 SPEAKER 2: Mark... Action! 473 00:24:22,587 --> 00:24:25,423 I was laughing when I saw that, when they put her on fire. 474 00:24:25,423 --> 00:24:27,967 I was like, "That's me!" But, it looked-- 475 00:24:28,051 --> 00:24:30,094 It's gonna be-- It's gonna be interesting to see 476 00:24:30,178 --> 00:24:34,182 how they've managed to put all the, you know, different parts together. 477 00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:38,019 We used a tool there called Cyclops, 478 00:24:38,019 --> 00:24:42,232 which is Unreal-based software that works on an iPad. So you-- 479 00:24:42,232 --> 00:24:46,903 You know, the Apple iPad has its own motion sensors in there, and it uses that. 480 00:24:46,903 --> 00:24:49,697 You can load a scene in, 481 00:24:50,073 --> 00:24:52,825 and that scene can be a dragon, if you want it to be, 482 00:24:53,076 --> 00:24:55,745 and use it as a framing guide that, you know, 483 00:24:55,745 --> 00:24:59,791 if you tilt up here, that's where Vhagar's head will be. 484 00:24:59,791 --> 00:25:01,918 So, we tried two things. 485 00:25:01,918 --> 00:25:07,423 We tried, one, actually putting an iPhone-based version of the app on the camera. 486 00:25:07,507 --> 00:25:09,759 But most of the time, it actually was me. 487 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:13,638 I would, sort of, kneel down by the camera with my iPad and discuss with the cameraman, 488 00:25:13,638 --> 00:25:18,226 "Look, if you point this way, you'll be seeing Vhagar here." 489 00:25:18,643 --> 00:25:21,938 Angus has done a lot of prep work on those kind of scenes. 490 00:25:21,938 --> 00:25:25,608 So he comes knowing the lenses that he wants to use, 491 00:25:25,692 --> 00:25:27,944 and the camera angles, and the distances. 492 00:25:27,944 --> 00:25:29,862 And we kind of work with him on that. 493 00:25:29,946 --> 00:25:33,574 And the SFX guys have got the flamethrowers and the torches. 494 00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:38,496 It was... It was, kind of a fun night, in a weird way. 495 00:25:38,496 --> 00:25:40,957 We had a wonderful SFX technician. 496 00:25:40,957 --> 00:25:46,087 He had made this incredible flamethrower that he was very excited about. 497 00:25:46,337 --> 00:25:48,506 And we almost couldn't get the flamethrower out, 498 00:25:48,506 --> 00:25:51,801 which was gonna be really sad, 'cause I would've had to report back to him, 499 00:25:52,093 --> 00:25:53,845 "Sorry, didn't use flamethrower." 500 00:25:53,845 --> 00:25:55,054 But instead, we did. 501 00:25:55,138 --> 00:25:58,182 It was a very interesting experience, 502 00:25:58,266 --> 00:26:00,518 and, surprisingly, came out quite well. 503 00:26:00,518 --> 00:26:04,230 And three, two, one... Action! 504 00:26:04,314 --> 00:26:07,317 I remember, I was very nervous coming and doing that rehearsal. 505 00:26:07,317 --> 00:26:10,320 And I remember leaving, I was like, "This is gonna be fun." 506 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,946 That was a nice memory. 43701

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