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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:17,059 --> 00:00:19,311 I think it's time now to sweeten the air 4 00:00:19,394 --> 00:00:21,021 with a little entertainment. 5 00:00:21,104 --> 00:00:25,317 But not on the principle of escapism, but on the principle of affirmation. 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,364 And there's scarcely a more affirmative artist in 7 00:00:30,447 --> 00:00:33,992 the musical world than my old friend whom I'm going to bring out now, 8 00:00:34,910 --> 00:00:39,623 on the theory that music hath charms to soothe the savage breast. 9 00:00:41,583 --> 00:00:43,168 And because he is, 10 00:00:43,836 --> 00:00:46,964 past all question, one of the greatest influences 11 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:50,509 in American music 12 00:00:50,592 --> 00:00:53,512 and the greatest influence in jazz of all time. 13 00:00:54,263 --> 00:00:57,850 It's my great pleasure to bring you my great friend, 14 00:00:58,684 --> 00:00:59,685 Louis Armstrong. 15 00:01:43,562 --> 00:01:45,731 The whole world embraced Louis Armstrong. 16 00:01:45,814 --> 00:01:49,860 He was bringing a gift, the gift of a presentness 17 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:52,446 and a naturalness and a depth of insight. 18 00:01:52,529 --> 00:01:55,407 And the ability to act on those insights in the moment. 19 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:57,701 And it was in a difficult form like music. 20 00:01:57,784 --> 00:02:02,831 And that type of electric virtuosity has not been seen before or since. 21 00:02:12,799 --> 00:02:13,842 Without him, 22 00:02:13,926 --> 00:02:16,512 many things that happen today in jazz would not be possible. 23 00:02:16,595 --> 00:02:20,224 And I think that Mr. Armstrong has not gotten a good deal 24 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:21,725 of the credit that's due to him. 25 00:02:32,653 --> 00:02:36,281 He has been the number one man in his department. 26 00:02:36,365 --> 00:02:39,993 He is really the ambassador of the whole thing, 27 00:02:40,077 --> 00:02:41,995 so there will never be another one like this. 28 00:03:42,014 --> 00:03:44,683 Well, he was a very, very deep person. 29 00:03:44,766 --> 00:03:48,395 He was very much aware of world activities, 30 00:03:48,478 --> 00:03:49,855 what was happening everywhere. 31 00:03:49,938 --> 00:03:52,649 We would have our discussions at home. 32 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:55,360 He had been asked by many reporters in interviews 33 00:03:55,444 --> 00:03:58,071 what did he think about a certain particular thing. 34 00:03:58,155 --> 00:04:01,033 And Louis would say, "Well, man, you know, I'm just a musician." 35 00:04:01,116 --> 00:04:02,910 He never would come out publicly 36 00:04:02,993 --> 00:04:08,707 because his theory was that "what I say carries a lot of weight." 37 00:04:08,790 --> 00:04:12,419 And he says, "And I just won't do it." But at home, he had his opinions. 38 00:04:30,395 --> 00:04:34,233 American people, they the most grandest people on Earth. 39 00:04:34,316 --> 00:04:37,319 And I'm from America, well, quite naturally, 40 00:04:37,402 --> 00:04:39,363 I don't have no fucking flag 41 00:04:39,446 --> 00:04:41,240 other than a Black flag. 42 00:04:55,671 --> 00:04:56,922 Thank you, folks. 43 00:05:02,261 --> 00:05:03,846 Thank you. 44 00:05:03,929 --> 00:05:07,349 Now I'll be glad when you're dead You rascal you 45 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,562 I'll be glad when you're dead You rascal you 46 00:05:12,229 --> 00:05:14,606 Boy, when you're laying six feet deep 47 00:05:14,690 --> 00:05:16,733 No more fried chicken will you eat 48 00:05:17,734 --> 00:05:18,735 Oh, you dog 49 00:05:18,819 --> 00:05:20,529 I know that'll break your heart 50 00:05:21,363 --> 00:05:23,991 My father would say, "You have to check Pops out." 51 00:05:24,074 --> 00:05:25,576 I was going, "Man, I don't want Pops." 52 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:27,786 In New Orleans, too, where so much what we call 53 00:05:27,870 --> 00:05:29,288 "Uncle Tomming" goes on. 54 00:05:29,371 --> 00:05:30,998 Playing Dixie, shuffling. 55 00:05:31,081 --> 00:05:33,834 In my time, I hated that with an unbelievable passion. 56 00:05:34,543 --> 00:05:37,004 When I was growing up, there was no way for me to even express 57 00:05:37,087 --> 00:05:40,674 the type of anger and hatred I had toward that type of behavior. 58 00:05:41,175 --> 00:05:43,302 So, I could not appreciate Armstrong. 59 00:05:43,802 --> 00:05:46,805 But when I left New Orleans, and I was in New York at that time, 60 00:05:46,889 --> 00:05:48,265 my father sent me a tape. 61 00:05:48,348 --> 00:05:50,851 He said, "Man, why don't you learn one of these Pops solos?" 62 00:06:05,991 --> 00:06:08,285 So I put it on and I started to work on it. 63 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:10,537 Man, I could not play this solo at all. 64 00:06:11,038 --> 00:06:13,332 Just the endurance of Louis Armstrong. 65 00:06:13,415 --> 00:06:15,709 He never stopped playing. He was always up around high B's. 66 00:06:15,792 --> 00:06:18,545 And when we got to the final chorus, I called my father. 67 00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:21,757 I said, "Man, I didn't understand about Pops." 68 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,842 He just started laughing. He said, "That's right." 69 00:06:43,946 --> 00:06:46,365 Louis loved his home in Queens. 70 00:06:46,448 --> 00:06:49,868 Some people said that it wasn't palatial enough. 71 00:06:51,161 --> 00:06:53,080 And he didn't wanna move anywhere else. 72 00:06:54,748 --> 00:06:58,669 When tape came on the scene, Louis became enamored of that. 73 00:06:58,752 --> 00:07:02,256 And he used it most of all for conversations. 74 00:07:02,339 --> 00:07:05,133 He had friends come to the house, and he would tape it. 75 00:07:05,801 --> 00:07:10,848 Louis had a lot of, sort of, what I would describe as archival materials. 76 00:07:10,931 --> 00:07:12,766 I mean, tapes and things like that. 77 00:07:12,850 --> 00:07:16,061 He had his own study. It was taboo to everyone. 78 00:07:16,144 --> 00:07:18,856 That was his. He'd close that door and nobody bothered him. 79 00:07:18,939 --> 00:07:21,191 He had his tapes and everything of his was in there. 80 00:07:21,692 --> 00:07:25,195 I've heard a lot of reel-to-reels of Pops just talking. 81 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:26,697 Everyday life recordings. 82 00:07:27,239 --> 00:07:28,699 His humanity comes through. 83 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,831 I got tapes on my wall in my den. 84 00:07:36,415 --> 00:07:40,002 For 40 years, Lucille had one of them Tandbergs 85 00:07:40,085 --> 00:07:42,754 put up there with two tapes together. 86 00:07:42,838 --> 00:07:46,633 That really knocked me out because we couldn't afford no den 87 00:07:46,717 --> 00:07:48,093 in them early days. 88 00:07:48,177 --> 00:07:50,179 No, we've gotta sleep in that room. 89 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,473 -Now you got a den. -Now I got a den. 90 00:07:53,557 --> 00:07:57,811 I got all of my tapes around the walls and just pick out what I wanna hear. 91 00:07:58,770 --> 00:08:01,523 He was the busiest person, taking care of things when he was home. 92 00:08:01,607 --> 00:08:03,275 It was his relaxation. 93 00:08:04,067 --> 00:08:08,572 He would sit up in his study for hours and hours, 94 00:08:08,655 --> 00:08:09,948 indexing his tapes. 95 00:08:10,032 --> 00:08:13,243 And he has a hobby of cutting out pictures, 96 00:08:13,327 --> 00:08:18,415 you know, and paste them up on the ceiling in his den, all over the walls. 97 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:20,918 I've got scrapbooks that Louis had 98 00:08:21,001 --> 00:08:24,087 that were made up when he first played the Palladium back in '32. 99 00:08:24,171 --> 00:08:28,509 Most of the pictures and the newspaper write-ups have gone yellow. 100 00:08:29,051 --> 00:08:30,594 People asked all the time, 101 00:08:30,677 --> 00:08:32,179 "Why is he recording these tapes? 102 00:08:32,261 --> 00:08:35,307 Why is he writing down all of his thoughts?" 103 00:08:35,390 --> 00:08:36,517 And all this kind of stuff. 104 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,852 He knew that one day they were gonna write about him in the history books. 105 00:08:39,937 --> 00:08:43,774 And so he wanted to make sure all sides of him-- good, bad, ugly-- 106 00:08:43,857 --> 00:08:47,569 were gonna be captured and preserved by himself. 107 00:08:47,653 --> 00:08:48,862 Not by anybody else. 108 00:08:54,993 --> 00:08:57,996 Hello, folks. This is old Louis "Satchmo" Armstrong. 109 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,123 I just finished this concert here and 110 00:09:00,624 --> 00:09:04,169 I feel good 'cause I had a nice supper of Wiener schnitzels. 111 00:09:06,296 --> 00:09:09,675 Glad to see you around and dig the concerts. 112 00:09:09,758 --> 00:09:12,970 We've been playing every night around the neighborhood cities. 113 00:09:13,053 --> 00:09:15,305 So, later. Goodbye. 114 00:09:36,994 --> 00:09:40,205 Louis Armstrong is the prime minister of the world of jazz. 115 00:09:40,289 --> 00:09:42,207 He and his trumpet are at the summit. 116 00:09:42,291 --> 00:09:44,751 His European concerts have broken all records. 117 00:09:44,835 --> 00:09:48,755 Satchmo is one of our more valuable items for export. 118 00:09:48,839 --> 00:09:51,967 His recordings are hot on both sides of the iron curtain. 119 00:10:02,186 --> 00:10:05,272 Satchmo, you always draw an audience, don't you? 120 00:10:05,355 --> 00:10:08,609 Yeah, man. That shows you there's cats in all walks of life. 121 00:10:16,658 --> 00:10:18,660 He broke so many barriers. 122 00:10:18,744 --> 00:10:22,998 He would be the first Black performer to open up a club, 123 00:10:23,081 --> 00:10:25,417 a ballroom, a radio station. 124 00:10:26,084 --> 00:10:33,008 He was the first Black movie performer to have his name above the title. 125 00:10:49,775 --> 00:10:51,193 Don't you ever get tired? 126 00:10:51,944 --> 00:10:55,239 Well, daddy, I'm just a little beat from my youth. 127 00:10:55,322 --> 00:10:56,990 You had quite a session here tonight. 128 00:10:57,074 --> 00:11:02,037 Yeah, we just start playing it the same as we did in the tailgates in New Orleans. 129 00:11:02,829 --> 00:11:04,414 It's the same music. 130 00:11:04,498 --> 00:11:06,250 And it's universal, daddy. 131 00:11:09,002 --> 00:11:15,008 Yes, way down yonder in New Orleans 132 00:11:15,843 --> 00:11:19,555 Man, you should have made All those scenes 133 00:11:19,638 --> 00:11:21,348 "Just saying 'Hello, folks' 134 00:11:21,431 --> 00:11:24,434 over a microphone sounds simple and innocent, doesn't it? 135 00:11:25,018 --> 00:11:27,437 But I remember when it wasn't so simple. 136 00:11:27,521 --> 00:11:31,775 Back in 1931, I was invited to play in my hometown, 137 00:11:31,859 --> 00:11:36,822 New Orleans, at a fancy nightclub, the Suburban Gardens." 138 00:11:43,287 --> 00:11:47,416 You spent a lot of time in New Orleans, in the South, looking for signs. 139 00:11:47,499 --> 00:11:51,044 You see a restroom that said, "White Gentlemen." 140 00:11:51,128 --> 00:11:53,005 This always was a put-down. 141 00:11:53,088 --> 00:11:56,133 So, you saw that flashing in your face all the time. 142 00:11:57,801 --> 00:12:00,095 The only way Louis would agree to go to New Orleans 143 00:12:00,179 --> 00:12:02,181 was on his own private train. 144 00:12:02,806 --> 00:12:08,187 Which meant that we could have our private car, our cooks, 145 00:12:08,270 --> 00:12:10,689 chefs, porters and things like that. 146 00:12:10,772 --> 00:12:13,066 In New Orleans, we're, quite naturally, 147 00:12:13,150 --> 00:12:15,277 the first band on the radio down there… 148 00:12:15,777 --> 00:12:17,362 Fleischmann's Yeast presents 149 00:12:17,446 --> 00:12:19,156 another great half hour of entertainment, 150 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:21,658 featuring music by Louis Armstrong and his orchestra. 151 00:12:21,742 --> 00:12:24,453 And you never heard of no spade playing on no radio 152 00:12:24,536 --> 00:12:26,538 in those days. Just starting. 153 00:12:26,622 --> 00:12:29,499 The night we opened, there's all the white boys 154 00:12:29,583 --> 00:12:31,043 that I was raised with, you know. 155 00:12:31,126 --> 00:12:33,587 Sitting up there, sharp. 156 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:36,465 They done got rich. Maybe their fathers done left 'em the-- 157 00:12:36,548 --> 00:12:38,926 the produce places and different things 158 00:12:39,009 --> 00:12:41,053 that when we was kids we used to hang around. 159 00:12:41,136 --> 00:12:45,140 And after school, we'd go out in the lots and play cowboys and Indians 160 00:12:45,224 --> 00:12:47,309 with old broken slates and things like that. 161 00:12:47,392 --> 00:12:48,769 You know what I mean? We-- 162 00:12:48,852 --> 00:12:50,395 We was the Indians, of course. 163 00:12:52,314 --> 00:12:55,442 And at that time, there was no mixing of the races at all. 164 00:12:55,526 --> 00:12:57,528 The only way our people could hear the band 165 00:12:58,195 --> 00:13:00,989 was to come out and sit along the levee and hear-- 166 00:13:01,073 --> 00:13:03,325 and hear the music from the-- from a distance. 167 00:13:11,834 --> 00:13:15,254 They had 50,000 Negroes on the levee to hear my music. 168 00:13:15,337 --> 00:13:17,673 See, and I had been away about nine or ten years 169 00:13:17,756 --> 00:13:19,675 and I done got northern-fied. 170 00:13:19,758 --> 00:13:22,803 I done forgot about a whole lot of that foolishness down there, you know? 171 00:13:22,886 --> 00:13:26,515 The night we're opening, and I'm charming, 172 00:13:26,598 --> 00:13:29,643 and there's-- place pack and jam. 173 00:13:29,726 --> 00:13:35,274 But this night, they done brought this man up to-- "It's a big deal, now. 174 00:13:35,357 --> 00:13:37,276 You bring on Louis Armstrong. 175 00:13:37,359 --> 00:13:40,195 He's a New Orleans boy and blah, blah, blah." 176 00:13:40,988 --> 00:13:44,825 But a second before this cat had to go to that mic 177 00:13:44,908 --> 00:13:47,536 and bring me on, he walked away. 178 00:13:47,619 --> 00:13:52,666 Say, "I just can't introduce that nigger. Can't do it." 179 00:13:52,749 --> 00:13:56,378 They got me and told me what he says. I said, "Well, don't worry about it." 180 00:13:56,461 --> 00:13:58,714 You know? I said, "Give me that card, boys." 181 00:13:58,797 --> 00:14:01,300 And I walked to that mic. And when I went into… 182 00:14:02,885 --> 00:14:05,929 Pale moon shining 183 00:14:06,013 --> 00:14:09,349 Man, you thought the walls was coming in. 184 00:14:09,433 --> 00:14:14,771 Now the pale moon's shining 185 00:14:15,606 --> 00:14:18,525 On the fields below 186 00:14:20,611 --> 00:14:26,200 The folks are crooning soft and low 187 00:14:27,659 --> 00:14:30,704 You needn't tell me, boy 188 00:14:31,330 --> 00:14:34,750 Because I know, yes 189 00:14:35,959 --> 00:14:40,214 When it's sleepy time down South, yes 190 00:14:40,297 --> 00:14:42,716 And this announcer's standing there. 191 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:45,344 He said, "I didn't know this would happen in the South in New Orleans. 192 00:14:45,427 --> 00:14:46,803 Never happened before." 193 00:14:46,887 --> 00:14:49,640 So, they fired him and everything, and I took over myself. 194 00:14:57,022 --> 00:15:03,737 Good evening, everybody 195 00:15:09,826 --> 00:15:12,496 It was particularly galling for him to go home 196 00:15:12,579 --> 00:15:15,791 after being lionized the way he was around the world 197 00:15:15,874 --> 00:15:18,001 and see the same type of prejudice. 198 00:15:18,085 --> 00:15:21,547 His feelings were perpetually hurt by the nation 199 00:15:21,630 --> 00:15:24,132 and the injustice that he knew when he was a boy. 200 00:15:25,676 --> 00:15:27,928 Pops grew up very hard. 201 00:15:28,011 --> 00:15:29,388 It's been said, Pops, 202 00:15:29,471 --> 00:15:32,015 that you were brought up in abject poverty. 203 00:15:32,099 --> 00:15:33,767 You didn't have money when you were a kid, though. 204 00:15:33,851 --> 00:15:37,396 We always had money. I could shoot craps, sold newspapers, 205 00:15:37,479 --> 00:15:39,523 and I always hustled on the-- 206 00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:42,401 with the quartet and a little guitar, just sit and go busking. 207 00:15:42,484 --> 00:15:44,361 And I always had a pocket full of money. 208 00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:48,115 You know, in 1915, you had five dollars, you had a whole lot of money. 209 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:51,285 And I didn't ever have to beg nobody for nothing all my life. 210 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:54,079 Always a kid that had some get-up about him. 211 00:15:56,748 --> 00:15:59,877 I was born in James Alley, they called it. 212 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:04,506 It's back of town. That's the real New Orleans. 213 00:16:07,342 --> 00:16:09,595 We have a photo of your mama I wanna show everybody. 214 00:16:09,678 --> 00:16:13,015 -Yeah. That's my mother there, Mayann. -How did she discipline you? 215 00:16:13,098 --> 00:16:15,142 What did she do when you did something wrong? 216 00:16:15,225 --> 00:16:17,060 She had to whip the hell out of us both. 217 00:16:18,228 --> 00:16:20,230 And, man, she hit me like a man. 218 00:16:20,314 --> 00:16:22,691 And then she married Willie Armstrong. 219 00:16:23,442 --> 00:16:27,446 I mean, I'm only going by what they tell me along that line. 220 00:16:27,988 --> 00:16:30,532 'Cause as long as I can remember, they wasn't together. 221 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:33,911 We didn't have much money and things like that. 222 00:16:33,994 --> 00:16:36,955 But we lived and enjoyed good food. And-- 223 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:38,540 -You had a lot of fun? -Yeah. 224 00:16:38,624 --> 00:16:41,752 My mother could take 15 cents and go to the Poydras Market 225 00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:43,837 and come back and cook a meal. 226 00:16:43,921 --> 00:16:46,256 And you had to lick your fingers, it was just so good. 227 00:16:46,340 --> 00:16:48,383 -You know what I mean? Yes, sir. -For 15 cents? 228 00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:50,219 In those days, you could take a newspaper, 229 00:16:50,302 --> 00:16:51,803 and I'd go to the fish market 230 00:16:51,887 --> 00:16:55,474 and buy a whole newspaper full of fish heads. 231 00:16:56,266 --> 00:16:58,227 Just plain, chopped-off fish heads 232 00:16:58,310 --> 00:17:00,646 that they wouldn't use, they put aside. 233 00:17:00,729 --> 00:17:03,106 Yeah. That'd be garbage for them, wouldn't it? 234 00:17:03,190 --> 00:17:05,901 Well, they just ain't got time to do what we did with-- 235 00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:07,861 -Yeah. -My mother would get them fish heads 236 00:17:07,944 --> 00:17:10,906 and cook 'em and put a lot of canned tomatoes in 'em 237 00:17:11,490 --> 00:17:14,451 and call it court bouillon and serve it on top of some rice. 238 00:17:14,535 --> 00:17:17,996 Boy, you talking about beautiful food. And delicious. 239 00:17:19,164 --> 00:17:23,001 And the next morning, I'd go to school with a cabbage sandwich. 240 00:17:23,085 --> 00:17:25,045 Kids would be begging for a bite. 241 00:17:25,796 --> 00:17:27,923 -No kidding? -Absolutely. Yeah. 242 00:17:29,299 --> 00:17:31,218 New Orleans was a stomping ground. 243 00:17:31,301 --> 00:17:33,387 Well, they played every type of music. 244 00:17:33,470 --> 00:17:38,183 Everyone, no doubt, had a different style. They had every class. 245 00:17:38,267 --> 00:17:40,769 We had Spanish. We had coloreds. We had whites. 246 00:17:41,478 --> 00:17:44,147 I was working for some Jewish people at seven years old. 247 00:17:44,231 --> 00:17:47,359 They had a rags-and-bones yard. 248 00:17:47,442 --> 00:17:49,444 And then we used to go down to the red-light district 249 00:17:49,528 --> 00:17:53,156 and deliver stone coal, five cents a water bucket. 250 00:17:53,949 --> 00:17:57,202 I've got those coal cart blues 251 00:17:57,786 --> 00:18:00,747 I'm really all confused 252 00:18:00,831 --> 00:18:04,293 I'm 'bout to lose my very mind 253 00:18:04,376 --> 00:18:08,589 It always worry, worry me all the time 254 00:18:08,672 --> 00:18:11,216 The center of entertainment in New Orleans was Storyville, 255 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:13,594 the notorious red-light district. 256 00:18:13,677 --> 00:18:17,472 "The Negroes were only allowed to work in the red-light district. 257 00:18:17,556 --> 00:18:20,058 Most of the help was Negroes. 258 00:18:20,142 --> 00:18:23,228 They were paid good salaries and had a longtime job. 259 00:18:23,312 --> 00:18:26,899 The pay was swell no matter what your vocation was. 260 00:18:29,318 --> 00:18:32,404 No mixing at the guest tables at no time. 261 00:18:32,487 --> 00:18:37,242 As far as to buy a little trim, that was absolutely out of the question." 262 00:18:37,326 --> 00:18:39,995 Down in the district, the red-light district. 263 00:18:40,078 --> 00:18:41,788 As you call them, "prostitutes," 264 00:18:41,872 --> 00:18:43,957 where they get five dollars for a job, 265 00:18:44,041 --> 00:18:46,835 the whores where I'm talking about, up in my neighborhood, 266 00:18:46,919 --> 00:18:49,338 they get 50 cents to a dollar. 267 00:18:50,631 --> 00:18:52,382 Well, quite naturally, 268 00:18:52,466 --> 00:18:56,136 they're standing there with nothing on but a chemise. 269 00:18:56,220 --> 00:18:58,931 We'd call 'em teddies at the time, you know. 270 00:18:59,014 --> 00:19:03,227 So, there I'd be, a little boy, and put some coal on the grates, you know. 271 00:19:03,727 --> 00:19:07,105 Quite naturally, you gotta take a mug there right quick. 272 00:19:07,189 --> 00:19:09,691 If they'd seen me, they'd have slapped me down. 273 00:19:11,318 --> 00:19:12,903 Yeah, I actually did all that. 274 00:19:13,654 --> 00:19:16,240 But I used to hear all that good music too. 275 00:19:19,201 --> 00:19:21,161 That's how I got a chance to hear Bunk Johnson, 276 00:19:21,245 --> 00:19:24,331 Manuel Perez, and all the best bands and everything, you see? 277 00:19:24,414 --> 00:19:27,918 -They were all in the red-light district? -Yeah, they-- Each corner had a band. 278 00:19:28,001 --> 00:19:29,586 Cabarets, they called them, see? 279 00:19:30,671 --> 00:19:32,005 And we'd dance. 280 00:19:33,215 --> 00:19:34,967 And I'd be waving at 'em all. 281 00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:37,970 And when they'd go inside, we had to go to bed and sleep. 282 00:19:40,472 --> 00:19:44,977 New Year's Eve, 1912. Louis and his pals were out on the street. 283 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:47,855 And they were celebrating and making noise like everybody else. 284 00:19:47,938 --> 00:19:50,232 And somehow, Louis got hold of a .38 revolver. 285 00:19:50,858 --> 00:19:53,694 I found this pistol. Got blanks in it. 286 00:19:53,777 --> 00:19:56,572 But the noise is what everybody give you. 287 00:19:56,655 --> 00:19:59,575 So when I look around, a little guy was shooting 288 00:19:59,658 --> 00:20:02,494 a little old six-shooter across the street. You know. 289 00:20:04,371 --> 00:20:06,373 So, I was singing in a little quartet, you know, 290 00:20:06,456 --> 00:20:08,625 we used to go around and pass the hat, you know. 291 00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:11,879 And they called me Dipper at that time. Dippermouth, you know. 292 00:20:11,962 --> 00:20:13,213 They say, "Get him, Dipper." 293 00:20:13,297 --> 00:20:15,799 And I reached up there to grab the .38 and… 294 00:20:18,427 --> 00:20:19,636 and brighten it up 295 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,140 until that detective was hugging me and I said, "Oh…" 296 00:20:25,225 --> 00:20:26,977 In those days, the cops would whip your head 297 00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:29,897 and then ask you your name afterwards, you know? 298 00:20:29,980 --> 00:20:33,192 And you think that's something that's changed? 299 00:20:33,734 --> 00:20:36,862 Well, I haven't been down there in so long. I'm gonna go down and see. 300 00:20:38,530 --> 00:20:39,823 And I couldn't get away from him. 301 00:20:39,907 --> 00:20:41,825 He took me down to the juvenile court 302 00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:45,662 and then, the next day, they took me out to the orphanage. 303 00:20:45,746 --> 00:20:48,457 It was called Colored Waif's Home for Boys. 304 00:20:49,625 --> 00:20:51,877 When was the first time in your life 305 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,129 that you actually picked up a horn? 306 00:20:55,005 --> 00:20:58,217 That was, you know, when I went to the orphanage. 307 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,219 I was about 13. 308 00:21:00,302 --> 00:21:04,681 This is the first horn that Louis Armstrong ever owned. 309 00:21:04,765 --> 00:21:09,895 We did not have much money, but we are proud of encouraging him. 310 00:21:10,646 --> 00:21:12,523 The little brass band was very good, 311 00:21:12,606 --> 00:21:16,276 and Mr. Davis made the boys play a little of every kind of music. 312 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:18,445 When he first arrived at your home, 313 00:21:18,529 --> 00:21:20,822 could you tell right away he wanted to be a musician? 314 00:21:20,906 --> 00:21:22,616 -We could, yes. -How could you tell that? 315 00:21:22,699 --> 00:21:25,869 Because he organized quartets, singing, 316 00:21:25,953 --> 00:21:29,289 then he introduced dancing out there, tap dancing. 317 00:21:29,373 --> 00:21:32,417 The boys would clap and sing, and he'd sing and dance. 318 00:21:32,501 --> 00:21:34,002 Then when I did get him to play 319 00:21:34,086 --> 00:21:35,879 "When the Saints Go Marching In," 320 00:21:35,963 --> 00:21:37,339 "Put On Your Old Grey Bonnet," 321 00:21:37,422 --> 00:21:39,091 there was a high note to be out on 322 00:21:39,174 --> 00:21:41,552 -because it was at the end of the strain. -Yeah. 323 00:21:41,635 --> 00:21:43,679 None of the other boys couldn't make it. 324 00:21:43,762 --> 00:21:45,347 And I couldn't make it myself. 325 00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:48,058 But he would blow the high C above the staff 326 00:21:48,141 --> 00:21:49,852 to let us know that's the end of the strain. 327 00:21:50,686 --> 00:21:53,021 Every day I practiced faithfully 328 00:21:53,105 --> 00:21:54,815 on the lessons Mr. Davis gave me. 329 00:21:54,898 --> 00:22:00,487 I became so good on the cornet that one day Mr. Davis said to me, 330 00:22:00,571 --> 00:22:03,490 "Louis, I'm going to make you leader of the band." 331 00:22:03,574 --> 00:22:06,034 I jumped straight up into the air. 332 00:22:07,327 --> 00:22:09,621 You see, what people don't understand, in New Orleans, 333 00:22:09,705 --> 00:22:12,374 the majority of the musicians haven't had the opportunity 334 00:22:12,457 --> 00:22:14,001 of having a teacher. 335 00:22:14,084 --> 00:22:16,920 And they only pick up an instrument and just fool around with it 336 00:22:17,004 --> 00:22:20,924 until they begin to try to get some kind of tone or notes out of it. 337 00:22:21,508 --> 00:22:22,843 And that's how they started. 338 00:22:24,344 --> 00:22:26,597 We had military training in the orphanage. 339 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,390 And "Star-Spangled Banner," 340 00:22:28,473 --> 00:22:31,935 we was taught that was our national anthem. 341 00:22:33,478 --> 00:22:36,231 And you're supposed to stand up and salute. 342 00:22:38,025 --> 00:22:41,486 And I was taught to play that tune 343 00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:45,407 with every spark I had in my soul. 344 00:22:45,490 --> 00:22:48,327 On our lands we was taught. 345 00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:53,290 And when we play it, that's the feeling I have. 346 00:22:53,373 --> 00:22:56,460 And then they hoist that flag. 347 00:23:01,465 --> 00:23:03,967 Note for note, I still remember. 348 00:23:12,768 --> 00:23:15,938 Do you have a happy feeling when you play that song? 349 00:23:16,021 --> 00:23:18,440 I feel that I'm somebody. 350 00:23:18,524 --> 00:23:19,566 Yeah. 351 00:23:20,317 --> 00:23:22,611 When I finish playing "Star-Spangled Banner," 352 00:23:22,694 --> 00:23:29,284 I feel just as proud as anybody that ever picked up a gun, 353 00:23:29,368 --> 00:23:33,914 shouldered a rifle, and said, "Forward march." 354 00:23:41,713 --> 00:23:45,551 I was with James Baldwin, listening to Louis, 355 00:23:45,634 --> 00:23:47,427 and he played a great set. 356 00:23:47,511 --> 00:23:51,682 And then he ended with "The Star-Spangled Banner." 357 00:23:52,766 --> 00:23:55,352 And James turned to me, and he said, 358 00:23:55,435 --> 00:23:59,064 "You know, that's the first time I've liked that song." 359 00:24:01,984 --> 00:24:04,236 What he heard from Louis 360 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:10,617 did away with all the stuff that was accumulated around it. 361 00:24:11,285 --> 00:24:16,123 And just in the purity that Louis brought to it 362 00:24:16,206 --> 00:24:18,584 made him appreciate it. 363 00:24:19,209 --> 00:24:23,046 Everybody talks about Hendrix and "The Star-Spangled Banner." 364 00:24:30,888 --> 00:24:34,016 But Armstrong was performing it as early as World War II. 365 00:24:34,099 --> 00:24:37,227 You know, right after Pearl Harbor, he started putting it in his repertoire. 366 00:24:37,311 --> 00:24:41,481 And he is going on stage and pouring his soul into that song. 367 00:24:41,565 --> 00:24:42,774 And there's pride, 368 00:24:42,858 --> 00:24:46,403 but there's also a tremendous amount of hurt every time you hear him play it. 369 00:24:46,486 --> 00:24:51,325 Louis Armstrong was coming from a 40-year memory of what slavery was. 370 00:24:51,408 --> 00:24:54,620 He understood that there was a battle in this country, 371 00:24:54,703 --> 00:24:58,123 so he was trying to use his music to transform and reform 372 00:24:58,207 --> 00:25:01,251 and lead the country closer to its higher ideals. 373 00:25:13,722 --> 00:25:18,519 Who, if anybody, was the biggest influence on your early life? 374 00:25:18,602 --> 00:25:20,354 -What, in music? -In music. 375 00:25:20,437 --> 00:25:21,730 King Oliver. 376 00:25:21,813 --> 00:25:25,067 'Cause I-- Outside of the Waif's Home, the orphanage. 377 00:25:25,150 --> 00:25:26,568 When I got out, he took me over. 378 00:25:26,652 --> 00:25:30,113 And he always told me, "Never play a lot of that jiujitsu music. 379 00:25:30,197 --> 00:25:32,324 Play the lead. You got a good tone, 380 00:25:32,407 --> 00:25:35,118 and you know how to phrase, and it says something." 381 00:25:36,578 --> 00:25:40,415 And I carried his cornet when he wasn't blowing and marching. 382 00:25:40,499 --> 00:25:43,001 And the police would have been running me out the parade. 383 00:25:43,085 --> 00:25:44,419 You know, I stayed with him on it. 384 00:25:44,503 --> 00:25:45,504 But that's my man. 385 00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:48,841 You play in that hot sun, you know, with that uniform on, 386 00:25:48,924 --> 00:25:51,885 and he put a hanky on his neck to keep the sun off his neck. 387 00:25:51,969 --> 00:25:53,512 And he was really blowing that horn. 388 00:26:00,143 --> 00:26:03,522 When the authorities closed down sinful old Storyville, 389 00:26:03,605 --> 00:26:07,442 more than 200 musicians suddenly found themselves out of work. 390 00:26:07,526 --> 00:26:10,112 King Oliver had left town anyhow for Chicago, 391 00:26:10,195 --> 00:26:12,072 where they had heard that their kind of music, 392 00:26:12,155 --> 00:26:13,615 called jazz up north, 393 00:26:13,699 --> 00:26:15,075 was getting very popular. 394 00:26:15,576 --> 00:26:19,913 "I have always been crazy over Joe Oliver and his playing. 395 00:26:19,997 --> 00:26:22,958 So when Joe sent for me to join him in Chicago, 396 00:26:23,041 --> 00:26:25,752 I was happy because I knew I'd feel at home 397 00:26:25,836 --> 00:26:27,045 and he'd see after me." 398 00:26:32,092 --> 00:26:33,260 Chicago was about 399 00:26:33,343 --> 00:26:37,181 the second most popular section for Black people in the country. 400 00:26:37,264 --> 00:26:40,142 It was a great migration point where people went off 401 00:26:40,225 --> 00:26:43,228 from Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas. 402 00:26:43,312 --> 00:26:44,646 You could walk to Chicago, 403 00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:48,692 just keep walking if you had enough muscles in your legs. 404 00:26:49,776 --> 00:26:51,111 I'd have gone back home 405 00:26:51,195 --> 00:26:53,947 if I knew I'd be pushed out into all them tall buildings. 406 00:26:54,531 --> 00:26:56,992 Finally, I went to the Lincoln Garden… 407 00:26:59,369 --> 00:27:00,621 and played that music. 408 00:27:01,413 --> 00:27:06,543 I was so happy I did not know what to do. I had hit the big time. 409 00:27:06,627 --> 00:27:08,754 I was up north with the greats. 410 00:27:08,837 --> 00:27:11,840 I was playing with my idol, the king. 411 00:27:11,924 --> 00:27:16,762 All of my boyhood dreams had come true at last. 412 00:27:19,765 --> 00:27:23,644 All along, I'd been hearing from all the musicians about Little Louis, 413 00:27:23,727 --> 00:27:25,812 and what a good trumpet player he was gonna be. 414 00:27:25,896 --> 00:27:29,316 So, when he brought Little Louis over to Dreamland to meet me, 415 00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:32,027 Little Louis was 226 pounds. 416 00:27:32,110 --> 00:27:33,820 So I said, "Little Louis? 417 00:27:33,904 --> 00:27:36,532 How come you call him Little Louis as big as he is?" 418 00:27:36,615 --> 00:27:39,284 I wasn't impressed at all. I was very disappointed. 419 00:27:39,368 --> 00:27:42,829 I probably would have never paid any attention to Louis's playing 420 00:27:42,913 --> 00:27:45,415 if King Oliver hadn't said to me one night 421 00:27:46,041 --> 00:27:48,126 that Louis could play better than he could. 422 00:27:48,877 --> 00:27:50,921 He says, "But as long as I keep him with me, 423 00:27:51,004 --> 00:27:54,424 he won't be able to get ahead of me. I'll still be the king." 424 00:27:54,508 --> 00:27:56,802 After he told me that, I started listening. 425 00:27:56,885 --> 00:28:00,138 But when we got this recording date in Richmond, Indiana, for Gennett, 426 00:28:00,222 --> 00:28:01,932 in trying to get the balance, 427 00:28:02,432 --> 00:28:04,643 Joe and Louis stood right next to each other, 428 00:28:04,726 --> 00:28:05,936 as they always had, 429 00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:08,897 and you couldn't hear a note that Joe was playing 430 00:28:08,981 --> 00:28:11,108 and only could hear Louis. 431 00:28:11,191 --> 00:28:13,026 So he said, "Well, I gotta do something." 432 00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:17,072 So they put Louis about 15 feet away, over in the corner, from the band. 433 00:28:17,823 --> 00:28:21,785 And Louis was sitting in the co-- standing in the corner, looking so sad. 434 00:28:21,869 --> 00:28:24,705 You know, he thought it was bad for him to have to be separated from the band. 435 00:28:24,788 --> 00:28:26,707 And so, I looked at him and smiled 436 00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:28,917 to reassure him that he was all right, you know. 437 00:28:29,501 --> 00:28:30,961 And then I said to myself, 438 00:28:31,044 --> 00:28:36,842 "Now, if they have to put him that far away in order to hear Joe, 439 00:28:36,925 --> 00:28:38,218 he's gotta be better." 440 00:28:38,302 --> 00:28:39,469 Then I was convinced. 441 00:28:43,932 --> 00:28:46,810 Then Louis and I started getting to be sweethearts. 442 00:28:46,894 --> 00:28:48,687 Then we decided to get married. 443 00:28:49,563 --> 00:28:53,442 I told him, I said, "Now, I don't want to be married to a second trumpet player." 444 00:28:53,525 --> 00:28:54,818 He says, "What are you talking about?" 445 00:28:54,902 --> 00:28:57,237 I said, "Well, I don't want to be married to second trumpet. 446 00:28:57,321 --> 00:28:58,530 I want you to play first." 447 00:28:58,614 --> 00:29:00,782 He said, "Well, I can't play first. Joe's playing first." 448 00:29:00,866 --> 00:29:02,534 I said, "Well, that's why you gotta quit." 449 00:29:02,618 --> 00:29:04,119 He said, "I can't quit Mr. Joe. 450 00:29:04,203 --> 00:29:06,580 Mr. Joe sent for me, and I can't quit him." 451 00:29:06,663 --> 00:29:09,041 I said, "Well, it's Mr. Joe or me." 452 00:29:12,419 --> 00:29:16,131 I listened very carefully when Lil told me 453 00:29:16,215 --> 00:29:18,634 to always play the lead. 454 00:29:18,717 --> 00:29:21,803 He played 30 or 50 high notes, high C's, 455 00:29:21,887 --> 00:29:23,847 on this one tune they were playing. 456 00:29:23,931 --> 00:29:27,309 And the next day, everybody on the street was talking about it. 457 00:29:31,897 --> 00:29:34,107 People would come to two or three shows 458 00:29:34,191 --> 00:29:35,984 waiting for him to miss it one day. 459 00:29:36,068 --> 00:29:37,110 So, he said to me, 460 00:29:37,194 --> 00:29:39,404 "Do you know people are coming to the show four or five times 461 00:29:39,488 --> 00:29:40,948 to hear me miss that F?" 462 00:29:41,031 --> 00:29:43,367 I said, "Yeah? Well, make some G's at home." 463 00:29:43,992 --> 00:29:46,161 So, he started blowing around the house. 464 00:29:47,204 --> 00:29:49,039 I said, "Oh, my God. Why did I say that?" 465 00:29:52,626 --> 00:29:55,379 He never misses hitting that high note, does he, folks? 466 00:29:55,462 --> 00:29:57,422 Armstrong extends the range of the horn, 467 00:29:57,506 --> 00:30:00,050 ending every show with hundreds of high C's. 468 00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:03,929 Just from that, more and more musicians start playing higher notes. 469 00:30:04,012 --> 00:30:06,932 He really perfects the art of improvisation. 470 00:30:07,015 --> 00:30:08,517 He shows the world what it could be. 471 00:30:09,685 --> 00:30:11,854 Tommy Rockwell had heard him, 472 00:30:11,937 --> 00:30:17,359 so it was he who suggested that he form an recording outfit. 473 00:30:17,442 --> 00:30:21,697 And as a result, it was called Louis Armstrong's Hot Five. 474 00:30:28,328 --> 00:30:29,872 Do that thing, Papa Dip. 475 00:30:30,581 --> 00:30:32,457 You didn't work in clubs with the-- 476 00:30:32,541 --> 00:30:36,003 No, we never did think about nothing like that. 477 00:30:36,086 --> 00:30:40,507 We just make up them things and scat. Yeah. 478 00:30:40,591 --> 00:30:41,967 Wait. "Make up them things." 479 00:30:42,050 --> 00:30:43,468 -What do you mean? -Make up those tunes. 480 00:30:43,552 --> 00:30:45,554 -Just in the studio? -Yeah, sure. 481 00:30:45,637 --> 00:30:47,014 Say, don't you know it 482 00:30:49,141 --> 00:30:51,435 There's a rumor that you invented scat. Is that true? 483 00:30:51,518 --> 00:30:56,064 Well, they claim when we was recording "Heebie Jeebies," 484 00:30:56,148 --> 00:30:58,150 we get down to this part for the second chorus, 485 00:30:58,233 --> 00:30:59,526 and I drop the paper. 486 00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:02,237 President in the control booth, he says, "Keep on singing." 487 00:31:02,321 --> 00:31:03,155 -See? -Yeah. 488 00:31:03,238 --> 00:31:06,116 Well, that brought back memories of when I was a kid, 489 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,659 going around in the quartet. 490 00:31:07,743 --> 00:31:09,912 You know, Rampart Street in New Orleans. 491 00:31:10,412 --> 00:31:12,748 Whenever we'd get to a part we didn't know the words, 492 00:31:12,831 --> 00:31:15,667 we'd go to scatting and blowing like a trumpet, 493 00:31:15,751 --> 00:31:16,752 or something like that. 494 00:31:16,835 --> 00:31:19,129 And it came to me just like that. 495 00:31:24,885 --> 00:31:27,095 When he's scatting, the notes he's picking, 496 00:31:27,179 --> 00:31:29,389 and how sophisticated the melodies he's creating-- 497 00:31:29,473 --> 00:31:31,350 Louis Armstrong is never out of tune. 498 00:31:31,433 --> 00:31:34,019 He could do with his voice what he could do with his horn. 499 00:31:34,102 --> 00:31:36,313 When people sang in those days, 500 00:31:36,396 --> 00:31:38,941 they often sang in a very corny manner like… 501 00:31:39,024 --> 00:31:40,567 And I love you 502 00:31:41,068 --> 00:31:42,736 And you and me 503 00:31:42,819 --> 00:31:44,321 And the baby makes three 504 00:31:44,404 --> 00:31:45,948 Dinah 505 00:31:46,907 --> 00:31:49,493 Is there anyone finer 506 00:31:51,036 --> 00:31:53,372 In the state of Carolina? 507 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,794 If there is and you know her Know her 508 00:31:58,877 --> 00:32:01,004 But Armstrong came in with another kind of thing 509 00:32:01,088 --> 00:32:02,631 where he had that kind of… 510 00:32:04,550 --> 00:32:06,051 you know. 511 00:32:06,802 --> 00:32:08,554 Oh, Dinah 512 00:32:08,637 --> 00:32:11,890 Is there anyone finer In the state of Carolina? 513 00:32:11,974 --> 00:32:14,601 If there is and you know Show me 514 00:32:14,685 --> 00:32:16,854 Dinah With her Dixie eyes blazin' 515 00:32:16,937 --> 00:32:18,605 How I love to sit and gaze 516 00:32:18,689 --> 00:32:20,524 Into the eyes of Dinah Lee 517 00:32:20,607 --> 00:32:21,984 Babe, every night 518 00:32:22,067 --> 00:32:23,861 When I shake with fright, oh 519 00:32:23,944 --> 00:32:25,946 'Cause my Dinah might Change her mind 520 00:32:28,198 --> 00:32:31,243 Armstrong completely changes the way people sing. 521 00:32:31,326 --> 00:32:33,912 I'm talking soul singing. I'm talking Ray Charles. 522 00:32:33,996 --> 00:32:36,373 I'm talking Sam Cooke. I'm talking James Brown. 523 00:32:36,456 --> 00:32:40,169 I'm talking hip-hop. I'm talking funk. I'm talking pop music. 524 00:32:40,252 --> 00:32:42,254 I'm talking rock and roll. I'm talking the Beatles. 525 00:32:42,337 --> 00:32:45,507 Anybody who has basically uttered a sound 526 00:32:45,591 --> 00:32:49,720 on American pop radio in the last 90 years, 527 00:32:49,803 --> 00:32:52,431 it's because of Louis Armstrong's innovations. 528 00:33:08,739 --> 00:33:10,449 I met Louis on records. 529 00:33:10,532 --> 00:33:13,535 That "West End Blues" was a very, very moving experience, 530 00:33:13,619 --> 00:33:16,121 and it actually made a jazz fan out of me 531 00:33:16,205 --> 00:33:19,666 and ultimately found the direction for my whole career, 532 00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:21,460 as it did for so many people. 533 00:33:22,127 --> 00:33:23,921 "West End Blues" was a miniature masterpiece. 534 00:33:29,843 --> 00:33:34,264 I would say that jazz almost stems from Louis Armstrong. 535 00:33:34,348 --> 00:33:35,849 People are accustomed to saying, 536 00:33:35,933 --> 00:33:38,393 and I've heard it said a lot, that he was a genius. 537 00:33:38,477 --> 00:33:41,396 But very few people talk about why he was a genius 538 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,608 and what it was that his particular form of genius did. 539 00:33:49,613 --> 00:33:52,491 I could say now that what he was really doing 540 00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:55,869 was playing music for which there was no accounting 541 00:33:55,953 --> 00:33:57,829 in his immediate environment. 542 00:33:57,913 --> 00:34:01,625 Louis Armstrong is the first important soloist 543 00:34:01,708 --> 00:34:06,380 because he is the first to break away from Western harmony 544 00:34:07,172 --> 00:34:10,175 and to reintroduce the melodic 545 00:34:10,259 --> 00:34:13,929 and rhythmic developments of African music. 546 00:34:19,976 --> 00:34:20,978 Stop it! Stop it! 547 00:34:21,061 --> 00:34:23,438 You are playing notes between flat and natural. 548 00:34:23,522 --> 00:34:27,484 It's like discovering a secret scale just made for this type of music. 549 00:34:27,568 --> 00:34:31,822 The so-called jazz scale is used only melodically. 550 00:34:31,905 --> 00:34:33,156 That is, in the tune. 551 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,786 In the harmony underneath, we still use our old unflatted notes 552 00:34:38,954 --> 00:34:41,415 against the flatted note in the tune. 553 00:34:41,498 --> 00:34:43,708 So that causes a dissonance to happen. 554 00:34:43,792 --> 00:34:45,668 Jazz pianists are always using this dissonance. 555 00:34:45,752 --> 00:34:47,504 I'm sure it sounds familiar to you. 556 00:34:47,588 --> 00:34:49,505 And there's a reason for it. 557 00:34:49,590 --> 00:34:53,010 It's because they are looking for a note that isn't actually there, 558 00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:56,054 but which lies somewhere between the two. 559 00:34:56,554 --> 00:34:58,307 This is called a quarter tone. 560 00:34:59,057 --> 00:35:03,604 The quarter tone comes to us from Africa, which is, after all, the cradle of jazz 561 00:35:04,188 --> 00:35:06,857 and where quarter tones are everyday stuff. 562 00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:08,734 Now, ladies and gentlemen, 563 00:35:08,817 --> 00:35:11,361 we gonna take a little trip through the jungles this time, 564 00:35:11,862 --> 00:35:13,572 and we want y'all to travel with us. 565 00:35:14,198 --> 00:35:16,658 That tiger's running so fast. 566 00:35:16,742 --> 00:35:20,287 Gonna take a few choruses to catch him, so I want y'all to count with me. 567 00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:21,371 Yes, sir. 568 00:35:21,455 --> 00:35:24,208 Because this son-of-a-trumpet is gonna get away from you this time. 569 00:35:24,291 --> 00:35:26,251 Lay it out there, boys. I'm ready. 570 00:35:31,131 --> 00:35:34,593 At this time in his career, Louis was having problems with managers, 571 00:35:34,676 --> 00:35:37,471 and, inevitably, the gangsters took a hand in his affairs. 572 00:35:39,765 --> 00:35:41,767 There were certain interests in New York 573 00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:43,644 who thought the trumpet king belonged there. 574 00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:51,818 The gangster which was the toughest man in Chicago at that time, Frankie Foster, 575 00:35:51,902 --> 00:35:54,154 he said, "You know you're going to New York tomorrow?" 576 00:35:54,238 --> 00:35:56,657 I told him, "I didn't know nothing about that. 577 00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:58,242 Nobody told me nothing about it." 578 00:35:58,325 --> 00:36:00,244 I said, "Excuse me a minute. I'm going back on the stand." 579 00:36:00,327 --> 00:36:01,954 He said, "You're going to New York tomorrow." 580 00:36:02,037 --> 00:36:03,705 That's when he pulled that .45. 581 00:36:05,165 --> 00:36:08,001 I said, "Well, maybe I am going to New York." 582 00:36:10,796 --> 00:36:13,757 The whole business end of music at that time 583 00:36:13,841 --> 00:36:15,759 was controlled by white people. 584 00:36:15,843 --> 00:36:17,010 They were not all crooks. 585 00:36:17,094 --> 00:36:18,804 They were not all manipulating Black people, 586 00:36:18,887 --> 00:36:20,806 but quite a few of them were. 587 00:36:20,889 --> 00:36:23,183 It was very difficult for a Black musician 588 00:36:23,267 --> 00:36:26,436 not to be very bitter about the entire system at that time. 589 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,106 But Louis was one of those few, rare people 590 00:36:29,189 --> 00:36:31,275 that never gave the impression of being bitter, 591 00:36:31,358 --> 00:36:32,943 whether it was under the surface or not. 592 00:36:33,026 --> 00:36:36,989 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Mr. Armstrong. 593 00:36:37,781 --> 00:36:41,076 And we're gonna swing one of the good old good ones for you. 594 00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:44,037 Beautiful number, "I Cover the Waterfront." 595 00:36:44,121 --> 00:36:46,456 "I Cover the Waterfront," I like it. 596 00:36:48,625 --> 00:36:49,626 One, two. 597 00:37:16,153 --> 00:37:19,531 In 1932, first time I went to Europe. 598 00:37:20,616 --> 00:37:22,618 We used to travel by boats. 599 00:37:22,701 --> 00:37:24,995 Johnny Collins was my manager then. 600 00:37:25,495 --> 00:37:27,664 Didn't they give you the name of Satchmo over here? 601 00:37:27,748 --> 00:37:29,416 Yeah. Given by Fuzzy Brooks. 602 00:37:29,917 --> 00:37:32,836 He was the editor of the Melody Maker at that time. 603 00:37:33,629 --> 00:37:37,257 When I arrived in Plymouth, England, on the ship, 604 00:37:37,341 --> 00:37:39,718 and then somebody's going up there, "Hello, Satchmo." 605 00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:43,889 When I went all through Europe and everything with different cats, 606 00:37:43,972 --> 00:37:46,433 you know, trying to be managing things, 607 00:37:46,517 --> 00:37:48,936 I said, "These are the people I don't want to be bothered with. 608 00:37:49,019 --> 00:37:51,522 They're doing everything but protecting their trumpet." 609 00:37:51,605 --> 00:37:53,273 See, I had a manager who would-- 610 00:37:53,357 --> 00:37:55,776 who would grab all the money out the box office. 611 00:37:55,859 --> 00:37:57,653 You know, that frantic stuff, you know. 612 00:37:57,736 --> 00:37:59,613 I say, "Well, that ain't what I wanna do." 613 00:37:59,696 --> 00:38:02,866 Around about that time that Louis Armstrong found out 614 00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:08,997 that his managing director, Mr. Collins, was making £20,000 a week for him, 615 00:38:09,081 --> 00:38:13,252 and Louis was getting, say, about £100 a week. 616 00:38:13,335 --> 00:38:16,129 And he asked for more money, 617 00:38:16,213 --> 00:38:20,342 and Mr. Collins, he used some beautiful adjectives. 618 00:38:20,425 --> 00:38:23,887 I said, "Listen, cocksucker, you might be my manager 619 00:38:23,971 --> 00:38:25,806 and you might be the biggest shit, 620 00:38:26,306 --> 00:38:29,142 and book me in the biggest places in the world, 621 00:38:29,226 --> 00:38:32,229 but when I get out on that fucking stage with that horn and get in trouble, 622 00:38:32,312 --> 00:38:33,480 you can't save me." 623 00:38:33,564 --> 00:38:35,774 He said, "Take that nigger off the boat." 624 00:38:35,858 --> 00:38:38,235 Got to brawling, goddamn it. 625 00:38:38,318 --> 00:38:39,653 Shit. 626 00:38:41,530 --> 00:38:43,532 They gonna have this shit under control. 627 00:38:44,283 --> 00:38:46,159 And there's a big bottle of wine. 628 00:38:46,243 --> 00:38:47,786 All I had to do was take it like that. 629 00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:50,205 And the bald-headed motherfucker had his head down. 630 00:38:50,289 --> 00:38:54,626 And said, "I gotta just tap it like a pansy and kill the motherfucker." 631 00:38:55,377 --> 00:38:57,129 See, but the first thing I thought, 632 00:38:57,212 --> 00:38:59,131 all of them Black cocksuckers in Harlem who'd say, 633 00:38:59,214 --> 00:39:01,425 "I knew he would blow his top someday." 634 00:39:01,508 --> 00:39:03,844 I don't know why… "Fuck it. I got this shit." 635 00:39:03,927 --> 00:39:05,929 "Go on and eat your meal, man." 636 00:39:06,013 --> 00:39:08,182 Not that I hadn't been called a nigger before. 637 00:39:08,682 --> 00:39:10,559 He fired Collins. He got rid of him. 638 00:39:10,642 --> 00:39:12,144 But Collins had a contract on him. 639 00:39:12,227 --> 00:39:15,189 So, Louis remembered that he had worked for Joe Glaser, 640 00:39:15,272 --> 00:39:18,901 and that Joe Glaser was tied in with some pretty rough boys around Chicago. 641 00:39:18,984 --> 00:39:23,071 So Louis got in touch with Joe, and he told Joe, he said, 642 00:39:23,155 --> 00:39:25,699 "I'm having a lot of trouble with this guy managing me." 643 00:39:25,782 --> 00:39:26,950 He said, "I'm kind of scared." 644 00:39:27,034 --> 00:39:29,161 He said, "I don't know what he's gonna try to do to me." 645 00:39:29,244 --> 00:39:32,164 He says, "But I want you for my manager." 646 00:39:34,583 --> 00:39:37,794 The toughest guy in the honky-tonk that runs the gambling, 647 00:39:37,878 --> 00:39:40,005 he knew I was getting ready to come up north, 648 00:39:40,506 --> 00:39:42,549 and this is the pep talk he gave me. 649 00:39:42,633 --> 00:39:46,637 He said, "Look here, son. I like the way you blow that quail." 650 00:39:47,221 --> 00:39:48,263 Talking about my cornet. 651 00:39:48,347 --> 00:39:50,349 I knew what he was talking about. I said, "Yeah." 652 00:39:50,432 --> 00:39:52,809 He said, "Now, you go up north 653 00:39:53,685 --> 00:39:59,274 and always have a white man behind you to say, 'That's my nigger.'" 654 00:39:59,358 --> 00:40:01,443 And that's the way he put it to me. 655 00:40:01,527 --> 00:40:03,570 Now, you can figure that out yourself. 656 00:40:04,404 --> 00:40:05,656 That was the talk. 657 00:40:06,156 --> 00:40:09,243 And Joe Glaser came right in the scene. 658 00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:11,662 -What did the-- -We were just like that. 659 00:40:11,745 --> 00:40:17,000 Because he knew I wanted to blow my horn, and he saw to that. 660 00:40:17,084 --> 00:40:18,377 I said, "This is my man." 661 00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:20,546 I said, "You tend to business, Daddy Glaser. 662 00:40:20,629 --> 00:40:22,798 And I'll blow the horn. And that's where it is." 663 00:40:22,881 --> 00:40:25,217 And it's been over twenty-some years 664 00:40:25,801 --> 00:40:27,970 and we ain't even signed a contract. 665 00:40:29,346 --> 00:40:30,722 Joe Glaser's a nigga. 666 00:40:31,682 --> 00:40:33,809 Joe Glaser loves Negroes. 667 00:40:33,892 --> 00:40:35,394 He was raised with niggas. 668 00:40:35,477 --> 00:40:38,647 -He went to school with them. -That's right. That's right. 669 00:40:38,730 --> 00:40:42,484 You know, I always felt there was a weird relationship 670 00:40:42,568 --> 00:40:44,778 between Joe Glaser and Louis. 671 00:40:44,862 --> 00:40:47,155 And I felt Louis was exploited. 672 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,992 Louis believes that he never would've made it without Joe Glaser. 673 00:40:50,075 --> 00:40:51,326 I think he wouldn't have. 674 00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:54,037 -That's possible? -Quite possible. 675 00:40:54,121 --> 00:40:57,082 You got to have good management. I don't care how great you are. 676 00:40:57,165 --> 00:41:01,753 Good management goes hand in hand with success and talent. 677 00:41:01,837 --> 00:41:04,047 He never wanted anything to do with business, right? 678 00:41:04,131 --> 00:41:06,592 He never even hired the guys in his band. 679 00:41:06,675 --> 00:41:09,178 He just wanted to concentrate on that horn. 680 00:41:23,775 --> 00:41:25,694 Glaser-- On the strength of being with Louis-- 681 00:41:25,777 --> 00:41:27,196 Louis used to tell us stories 682 00:41:27,279 --> 00:41:29,865 about they used to ride the bus down South with Glaser, 683 00:41:29,948 --> 00:41:32,659 and Glaser didn't-- None of them hardly had enough to eat with. 684 00:41:32,743 --> 00:41:36,121 But on the strength of that, Louis started getting real popular. 685 00:41:36,205 --> 00:41:39,082 Glaser started getting good PR for Louis. 686 00:41:42,461 --> 00:41:47,341 By 1935, there were probably some who hadn't heard of Louis Armstrong, 687 00:41:47,424 --> 00:41:50,135 and perhaps even those few were erased that year 688 00:41:50,219 --> 00:41:52,721 when he recorded "La Cucaracha," 689 00:41:52,804 --> 00:41:55,641 "Red Sails in the Sunset," "On Treasure Island." 690 00:41:57,142 --> 00:41:58,727 In the summer of 1936, 691 00:41:58,810 --> 00:42:01,355 he said to me, "We're going on a tour of one-night stands. 692 00:42:01,438 --> 00:42:05,150 Why don't you ride along in the bus so you can see what it's like?" 693 00:42:05,234 --> 00:42:08,862 It was a very exhausting trip for musicians in those days. 694 00:42:08,946 --> 00:42:11,281 There were no air-conditioned buses at that time. 695 00:42:11,365 --> 00:42:13,158 Now, we've traveled 800 miles. 696 00:42:13,242 --> 00:42:15,702 You know, you get up, you can't hardly stand up. 697 00:42:15,786 --> 00:42:19,039 You'd think he would take it easy the first few sets or something like that. 698 00:42:19,122 --> 00:42:23,043 No, you'd get in there and that first number, boy. 699 00:42:23,126 --> 00:42:24,461 Pow, pow, pow. 700 00:42:24,545 --> 00:42:26,922 There was no letup. He was there to entertain the people. 701 00:42:27,005 --> 00:42:29,216 And believe me, that's what he believed in. 702 00:42:29,716 --> 00:42:33,053 No other leader I know would've put up with what he had to go through. 703 00:42:33,136 --> 00:42:36,139 Louis became attached to laxatives. 704 00:42:36,223 --> 00:42:38,559 When you traveled on the band bus with him, 705 00:42:38,642 --> 00:42:42,229 and you didn't know too much about laxatives, 706 00:42:42,855 --> 00:42:46,942 he would find a way for you to imbibe some of it. 707 00:42:47,025 --> 00:42:51,363 When I first got to know him, it was Pluto Water. 708 00:42:51,446 --> 00:42:55,993 But then come Swiss Kriss, which he really got to like. 709 00:42:56,827 --> 00:42:59,746 Enjoy the fun of eager living. 710 00:43:00,247 --> 00:43:05,419 That radiant, refreshed feeling that comes from everyday regularity. 711 00:43:05,502 --> 00:43:11,717 Don't think for once that Swiss Kriss wasn't in the rudimentals of my life. 712 00:43:14,428 --> 00:43:16,096 But I always did believe in herbs. 713 00:43:16,180 --> 00:43:18,265 -My mother always-- -Believed in? 714 00:43:18,348 --> 00:43:19,349 -Herbs. -Herbs. 715 00:43:19,433 --> 00:43:22,186 How do you say it? "Herbs"? "Erbs"? 716 00:43:22,269 --> 00:43:24,146 No, I say, "Hoibs." 717 00:43:24,229 --> 00:43:25,689 Well. Okay. 718 00:43:25,772 --> 00:43:26,857 -Well, I'll say "herbs." -Herbs. 719 00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:28,775 -You know what I'm talking about. -Herbs. Right. 720 00:43:28,859 --> 00:43:30,777 -They make you trot. -Pardon? 721 00:43:30,861 --> 00:43:32,237 Anyway. 722 00:43:32,321 --> 00:43:35,282 Have some and just leave it all behind you, daddy. 723 00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:39,620 He believed that the laxatives 724 00:43:39,703 --> 00:43:43,540 were of primary, significance to your health. 725 00:43:44,291 --> 00:43:45,751 His doctor traveled with him. 726 00:43:45,834 --> 00:43:49,171 Dr. Schiff told us, "Don't try to emulate this guy at home 727 00:43:49,254 --> 00:43:52,883 because you'd die, probably tomorrow." 728 00:43:52,966 --> 00:43:56,970 Louis was perhaps the strongest guy I ever worked around 729 00:43:57,054 --> 00:44:00,807 because he didn't try to live carefully or anything like this. 730 00:44:00,891 --> 00:44:03,977 He lived the way he wanted to live, and to heck with it. 731 00:44:04,061 --> 00:44:05,479 That's how he lived, you know. 732 00:44:09,775 --> 00:44:11,443 At five o'clock in the morning, 733 00:44:11,527 --> 00:44:13,403 Louis Armstrong had to be rushed to the hospital. 734 00:44:15,197 --> 00:44:19,743 Louis had a case history of a bad heart for a long time. 735 00:44:19,826 --> 00:44:22,120 We did a thing over in Spoleto, Italy, 736 00:44:23,121 --> 00:44:25,666 and he had a pretty bad heart attack over there. 737 00:44:26,583 --> 00:44:28,794 In Spoleto, Italy, 738 00:44:29,378 --> 00:44:32,840 they sent to Rome to get this special nurse in. 739 00:44:32,923 --> 00:44:34,132 She was here fast. 740 00:44:34,716 --> 00:44:36,593 Oh, yeah. She was good-looking too. 741 00:44:36,677 --> 00:44:39,263 Well, I ain't went with that. I'm trying to get well now. 742 00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:43,350 When she said, "Uh-huh, Satchmo, eh?" 743 00:44:43,433 --> 00:44:46,478 -She come with this thermometer, you know? -Uh-huh. 744 00:44:47,062 --> 00:44:48,730 I said, "What you gonna do with that?" 745 00:44:48,814 --> 00:44:50,065 She said… 746 00:44:50,148 --> 00:44:51,441 And this thermometer… 747 00:44:51,525 --> 00:44:52,818 I said, "Okay. Ah." 748 00:44:52,901 --> 00:44:53,986 "Ah, what?" 749 00:44:55,404 --> 00:44:57,739 Like, "Y'all trying to kill me." 750 00:44:58,782 --> 00:45:01,577 Now here is one of the miracles of show business, 751 00:45:01,660 --> 00:45:06,456 because when Louis Armstrong was with us in Spoleto, Italy, 752 00:45:06,540 --> 00:45:09,126 certainly Bob Precht and I never thought to see him alive again 753 00:45:09,209 --> 00:45:12,421 because, as you know, he was desperately sick over there. 754 00:45:12,504 --> 00:45:17,301 On the verge of dying, recovered and is now back playing his horn. 755 00:45:17,801 --> 00:45:22,639 Nah, I ain't gonna give nobody None of my jelly roll 756 00:45:24,933 --> 00:45:28,562 Give you none of it To save your soul 757 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,870 Ain't gonna give nobody None of my jelly roll, jelly roll 758 00:45:47,915 --> 00:45:51,001 You see, the other day I met a man from Zanzibar 759 00:45:52,127 --> 00:45:56,006 who was telling me quite a lot about racial prejudice. 760 00:45:56,089 --> 00:45:58,383 -Where? -In East Africa. 761 00:45:58,884 --> 00:46:00,844 What, Africa? You get it all over the world. 762 00:46:00,928 --> 00:46:02,721 Right here, you get prejudice. Are you kidding? 763 00:46:03,931 --> 00:46:05,933 -They were-- -All over the world. 764 00:46:06,016 --> 00:46:07,726 -Not only in Africa. -Many places. 765 00:46:07,809 --> 00:46:09,770 -Right here, you get prejudice. -Here? 766 00:46:09,853 --> 00:46:11,522 Yeah, everywhere. 767 00:46:11,605 --> 00:46:14,942 -How is it here? -Well, essence of it all over. 768 00:46:15,651 --> 00:46:17,778 Have you any examples of it here? 769 00:46:17,861 --> 00:46:19,947 Well, you can see a whole lot of example-- 770 00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:22,282 I can go out there right now, within an hour's time 771 00:46:22,366 --> 00:46:25,661 and see five situations where there's race prejudice. 772 00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:29,039 The discrimination was unbelievable. 773 00:46:29,122 --> 00:46:32,084 I think you had to be part of it, 774 00:46:32,167 --> 00:46:33,669 or to be very close to it, 775 00:46:33,752 --> 00:46:37,339 to get any idea of what it was like to be Black in those days. 776 00:46:37,422 --> 00:46:39,174 It seemed, on the surface, 777 00:46:39,258 --> 00:46:43,720 that a lot of Black musicians and Black people were accepting it 778 00:46:43,804 --> 00:46:46,390 or were trying to live with it as best they could. 779 00:46:46,473 --> 00:46:50,644 But the resentment, you know, understandably, was tremendous. 780 00:46:51,144 --> 00:46:53,564 And the conditions for living-- 781 00:46:53,647 --> 00:46:57,025 I mean, just for finding a place to stay overnight, you know, 782 00:46:57,609 --> 00:46:59,736 finding a place to go get something to eat-- 783 00:46:59,820 --> 00:47:03,115 Everything presented its difficulties because everything was segregated. 784 00:47:03,198 --> 00:47:05,033 And I'm talking about even in New York. 785 00:47:05,117 --> 00:47:09,162 But it was tragic, what you had to go with this discrimination. 786 00:47:09,246 --> 00:47:10,789 And you had to be tough. 787 00:47:10,873 --> 00:47:13,292 'Cause discrimination, in a sneaky sort of way, 788 00:47:13,375 --> 00:47:17,171 killed a whole lot of musicians because they couldn't understand the code. 789 00:47:19,173 --> 00:47:23,886 "Do you know I played 99 million hotels I couldn't stay at? 790 00:47:23,969 --> 00:47:27,347 When I was coming along, a Black man had hell. 791 00:47:28,056 --> 00:47:32,895 On the road, he couldn't find no place to eat, sleep, or use the toilet. 792 00:47:33,395 --> 00:47:37,191 Service station cats see a bus of colored bandsmen drive up, 793 00:47:37,274 --> 00:47:39,651 and they would sprint to lock their restroom doors. 794 00:47:40,861 --> 00:47:42,821 One time in Dallas, Texas, 795 00:47:42,905 --> 00:47:46,617 some ofay stops me as I enter this hotel where I'm blowing the show-- 796 00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,203 me in a goddamn tuxedo, now-- 797 00:47:49,286 --> 00:47:52,331 and tells me I gotta come around to the back door." 798 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,419 In Memphis, at the bus station, 799 00:47:57,503 --> 00:48:00,339 they claimed that the bus needed some work done on it 800 00:48:00,422 --> 00:48:02,508 and they were gonna take it back to have it overhauled. 801 00:48:02,591 --> 00:48:06,053 At that particular time, all the guys in Louis's band were young 802 00:48:06,136 --> 00:48:08,931 and just about as obstinate a bunch of people 803 00:48:09,014 --> 00:48:11,642 as you ever met in your life if they thought they were right. 804 00:48:11,725 --> 00:48:13,727 When nobody would give up the bus, 805 00:48:13,810 --> 00:48:17,940 then they sent for the police and arrested us for inciting a riot. 806 00:48:18,023 --> 00:48:20,776 With the intention of burning up all of our baggage and everything, 807 00:48:20,859 --> 00:48:22,277 luggage and everything, 808 00:48:22,361 --> 00:48:24,154 and putting us in the hoosegow, which they did. 809 00:48:24,238 --> 00:48:26,073 They arrested us all. 810 00:48:26,156 --> 00:48:29,284 He was playing in Los Angeles one time. I don't remember where. 811 00:48:29,368 --> 00:48:33,580 And I, along with some other friends, drove out to hear him play. 812 00:48:34,081 --> 00:48:37,292 And we got to this place, we were put-- given a table, 813 00:48:37,376 --> 00:48:38,752 and Louis saw me. 814 00:48:38,836 --> 00:48:40,671 He was in the middle of a radio broadcast. 815 00:48:40,754 --> 00:48:42,798 And then the broadcast was over, 816 00:48:42,881 --> 00:48:44,758 and he disappeared in back. 817 00:48:44,842 --> 00:48:45,968 And I waited. 818 00:48:46,510 --> 00:48:49,012 I thought he'd come over and have a drink, 819 00:48:49,096 --> 00:48:51,098 or a Coca-Cola or a cup of coffee or something. 820 00:48:51,181 --> 00:48:53,725 And he never showed up. I waited about ten minutes. 821 00:48:53,809 --> 00:48:56,395 And finally, I thought, "Well, what's wrong?" I went backstage. 822 00:48:56,478 --> 00:48:58,772 He was back there with his little typewriter. 823 00:48:58,856 --> 00:49:00,899 He was always writing these marvelous letters he wrote. 824 00:49:00,983 --> 00:49:03,610 And I said, "Hi, Pops." He said, "Hey, Artie. How you been?" 825 00:49:03,694 --> 00:49:06,238 I said, "I thought I understood you to indicate 826 00:49:06,321 --> 00:49:07,739 that you'd come over to the table." 827 00:49:07,823 --> 00:49:09,950 He looked at me. He said, "Man, I can't come to your table." 828 00:49:10,033 --> 00:49:12,536 And I said, "Why?" He said, "Oh, they don't allow me to sit-- 829 00:49:12,619 --> 00:49:14,663 Well, I can't sit at the tables out there." 830 00:49:15,247 --> 00:49:17,249 Well, I looked at him in total astonishment. 831 00:49:17,332 --> 00:49:21,170 My first reaction was, "Well, why the hell are you playing these places?" 832 00:49:21,253 --> 00:49:24,715 My next reaction was the practical one of, you play where you gotta play. 833 00:49:25,215 --> 00:49:28,552 And Louis was not in a what we now call civil rights fight. 834 00:49:28,635 --> 00:49:32,723 Louis was in a-- in an individual fight to survive. 835 00:49:32,806 --> 00:49:36,351 I guess his own inner dignity was able to make him prevail 836 00:49:36,435 --> 00:49:39,313 over all these awful conditions he must have worked with. 837 00:49:40,314 --> 00:49:42,816 "As time went on and I made a reputation, 838 00:49:43,483 --> 00:49:45,152 I had to put it in my contracts 839 00:49:45,235 --> 00:49:48,071 that I would not play no place I couldn't stay at. 840 00:49:48,572 --> 00:49:54,036 I was the first Negro in the business to crack them big, white hotels. 841 00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:56,663 Oh, yeah. I pioneered, Pops." 842 00:50:02,669 --> 00:50:05,547 People got tired of that situation, 843 00:50:05,631 --> 00:50:10,010 you know, that-- the separate this and the separate that. 844 00:50:10,093 --> 00:50:13,096 If a man is able and capable enough 845 00:50:13,889 --> 00:50:19,019 and could put the things together, what a leader wants, he's-- 846 00:50:19,102 --> 00:50:21,396 and he wants to hire 'em, he'd hire 'em. 847 00:50:25,150 --> 00:50:29,238 Old rockin' chair's got me 848 00:50:29,321 --> 00:50:31,573 Old rockin' chair got you, father 849 00:50:31,657 --> 00:50:34,076 What a marvelous, democratic thing music is. 850 00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:36,203 That's right. We went everywhere together. 851 00:50:36,286 --> 00:50:39,665 And we never had a hard word or nothing. 852 00:50:39,748 --> 00:50:41,875 We didn't worry about, you know, color. 853 00:50:41,959 --> 00:50:43,919 …gin, son 854 00:50:44,002 --> 00:50:47,381 You know you don't drink gin, father 855 00:50:47,464 --> 00:50:50,300 I mean, in the early days, we did this. 856 00:50:50,384 --> 00:50:52,135 When those things wasn't happening, 857 00:50:52,219 --> 00:50:55,806 Jack and I was busting those down barriers. 858 00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:59,351 Hitting the South there, and just going all over. 859 00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:02,688 Some guy asked me, 860 00:51:02,771 --> 00:51:04,773 he said, "Man, you're gonna take Jack Teagarden?" 861 00:51:04,857 --> 00:51:07,609 I said "Now, who am I to tell a white man he can't go down South?" 862 00:51:09,152 --> 00:51:12,614 And it's all through New Orleans, Texas… 863 00:51:14,157 --> 00:51:16,368 I guess, more than all of the laws, 864 00:51:16,451 --> 00:51:21,081 music has had more to do with better race relations through the years. 865 00:51:21,164 --> 00:51:23,125 -Hasn't it, Pops? -It's done a lot. 866 00:51:23,208 --> 00:51:26,503 You remember that white boy, he's a sailor or something, 867 00:51:27,004 --> 00:51:29,798 On one of these battleships at Pearl Harbor? 868 00:51:30,299 --> 00:51:31,884 And he caught my show. 869 00:51:31,967 --> 00:51:35,596 And come to find out, he has damn near every record I made 870 00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:38,557 from childhood, even his parents. 871 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,852 But still and all, he expressed himself. 872 00:51:41,935 --> 00:51:45,480 He come up, and he shook my hand after the whole show was over, didn't he? 873 00:51:46,064 --> 00:51:50,235 And he said, "You know, I don't like Negroes." 874 00:51:50,319 --> 00:51:53,530 Right to my fucking face, that motherfucker told me. 875 00:51:53,614 --> 00:51:57,492 And so I said, "Well, I admire your goddamn sincerity." 876 00:51:58,327 --> 00:52:00,078 He said, "I don't like Negroes, 877 00:52:00,162 --> 00:52:02,331 but you one son of a bitch I'm crazy about, baby." 878 00:52:02,414 --> 00:52:03,415 Didn't he? 879 00:52:03,498 --> 00:52:06,084 There, now, you take the majority of white people. 880 00:52:06,168 --> 00:52:09,796 There's two-thirds of them don't like niggers. 881 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,260 But they always got one nigger that they just crazy about, goddamn it. 882 00:52:17,054 --> 00:52:18,055 Ain't that a bitch? 883 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,687 Pops, he faced a lot of challenges, 884 00:52:25,771 --> 00:52:28,649 and he always faced them with style 885 00:52:28,732 --> 00:52:32,778 and maintained his sanity and his joy and his embrace of life. 886 00:52:32,861 --> 00:52:36,823 And it was not a simpleminded happiness. It was a transcendent joy. 887 00:52:40,494 --> 00:52:44,331 He had a blessing inside of him that he was acutely aware of. 888 00:52:46,124 --> 00:52:50,212 I remember when I was a neighbor of Louis Armstrong. 889 00:52:50,754 --> 00:52:54,466 We lived within one block of one another 890 00:52:54,550 --> 00:52:58,095 in Corona, Queens, New York, for 15 years. 891 00:52:58,178 --> 00:53:00,681 I went over to his house to wish him a happy birthday… 892 00:53:02,975 --> 00:53:04,977 and to bring him a little present. 893 00:53:05,060 --> 00:53:11,567 And I wound up getting a present myself and also a present for my wife, Lorraine. 894 00:53:12,651 --> 00:53:14,403 If you had a hard-luck story 895 00:53:14,486 --> 00:53:17,197 and you needed something, and you came to Louis, you got it. 896 00:53:17,281 --> 00:53:18,407 This is a throwback. 897 00:53:18,490 --> 00:53:21,743 It's been instilled in him in the old days of-- in New Orleans, 898 00:53:21,827 --> 00:53:23,161 when Louis was a youth coming up. 899 00:53:23,245 --> 00:53:25,038 It was a way of life down there. 900 00:53:25,122 --> 00:53:26,456 They were all poor, 901 00:53:26,957 --> 00:53:29,209 and the one that had a little more than the other 902 00:53:29,793 --> 00:53:32,754 saw to it that the one that has less had a little bit. 903 00:53:32,838 --> 00:53:34,214 So he never outgrew it. 904 00:53:34,298 --> 00:53:36,133 He liked to get to know the people. 905 00:53:36,216 --> 00:53:38,760 That's where it was at with Louis, and I think everyone knows that. 906 00:53:38,844 --> 00:53:41,805 You can see Louis-- see that in all the years 907 00:53:42,389 --> 00:53:44,433 and with all of the success that Louis has had, 908 00:53:45,142 --> 00:53:48,520 Louis still remained the man in the street himself. 909 00:53:50,814 --> 00:53:53,859 Royal Theatre was in a poor Negro neighborhood. 910 00:53:54,484 --> 00:53:56,570 Real poor people, I'm telling you. 911 00:53:57,196 --> 00:53:59,323 Until we arrived in town, 912 00:53:59,406 --> 00:54:02,951 it was actually colder-- 913 00:54:03,035 --> 00:54:08,415 I'm telling you, it was colder than a well digger's-- Well, you know the rest. 914 00:54:08,498 --> 00:54:14,379 And when I heard about those poor people who couldn't afford to buy hard coal, 915 00:54:14,463 --> 00:54:16,006 I bought it for them. 916 00:54:16,507 --> 00:54:20,677 I went to the coal yard, ordered a ton of coal, 917 00:54:20,761 --> 00:54:25,224 and had the company to deliver it to the lobby of the Royal Theatre. 918 00:54:25,974 --> 00:54:31,271 And had all the folks who needed coal to help themselves, 919 00:54:31,355 --> 00:54:33,315 which made them very happy. 920 00:54:33,398 --> 00:54:38,070 Of course, it all made me stick out my chest with pride. 921 00:54:39,404 --> 00:54:43,033 To be in his presence, to see the power that he had-- 922 00:54:43,116 --> 00:54:44,660 See, you'd go in his dressing room, 923 00:54:44,743 --> 00:54:49,081 he'd be sitting up, in his underwear, with a towel around his lap 924 00:54:49,164 --> 00:54:52,918 and one around his shoulders and had a white handkerchief on his head. 925 00:54:53,001 --> 00:54:56,129 And he put that grease around his lips. 926 00:54:56,213 --> 00:54:58,465 Looked like a minstrel man, you know, with the white. 927 00:54:58,549 --> 00:55:01,134 And laughing. Natural, see, the way he is. 928 00:55:01,218 --> 00:55:05,931 And in the room, you'll see maybe two nuns, a streetwalker. 929 00:55:06,014 --> 00:55:09,184 You see maybe a guy that's come out of penitentiary. 930 00:55:09,268 --> 00:55:11,645 You see a rabbi. You see a priest. 931 00:55:12,271 --> 00:55:16,275 All of the different levels of society in a dressing room. 932 00:55:16,358 --> 00:55:18,110 And he's talking to all of 'em. 933 00:55:20,362 --> 00:55:21,822 I'd like you to meet my son. 934 00:55:21,905 --> 00:55:24,992 First time we see important-looking whites 935 00:55:25,075 --> 00:55:29,329 be so, like putty in the presence of a figure 936 00:55:29,413 --> 00:55:33,458 who had opened up the world of music to new heights, you know? 937 00:55:35,085 --> 00:55:36,962 Now you know I don't lie much 938 00:55:45,721 --> 00:55:49,933 Fellas she can't get The fellas she ain't met 939 00:55:53,562 --> 00:55:56,231 Louis, you had, obviously, a very eventful life. 940 00:55:56,315 --> 00:55:58,525 Ever since I've known you, they've been making a film on you. 941 00:55:58,609 --> 00:56:01,236 They make a whole lot of films now. You know? 942 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,989 Well, now I hear they're finally gonna do a film on you. 943 00:56:04,072 --> 00:56:06,408 Yeah. Glad they can't come up to me and say, 944 00:56:06,491 --> 00:56:09,453 "You must be a movie star. I can tell by the film on your teeth." 945 00:56:12,206 --> 00:56:14,416 "Hollywood fascinates me. 946 00:56:14,499 --> 00:56:17,336 Everywhere I go, there's a warm greeting for me. 947 00:56:17,419 --> 00:56:22,633 But you still have some small-minded prop men, carpenters, callboys. 948 00:56:22,716 --> 00:56:26,970 One of the moments that dragged me the most happened in 1952 949 00:56:27,554 --> 00:56:29,473 during the making of Glory Alley." 950 00:56:34,269 --> 00:56:39,107 Glory Alley, Glory Alley 951 00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:44,738 Hear that trumpet moan in Glory Alley 952 00:56:45,364 --> 00:56:48,116 And this ofay, he wasn't nothing but a callboy. 953 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:53,247 He called, the extras and different things. 954 00:56:53,330 --> 00:56:55,040 Then he'll come to the stars' dressing room, 955 00:56:55,123 --> 00:56:57,000 let them know when they want them for the camera. 956 00:56:57,084 --> 00:56:59,461 And he was hanging around on the set all the time. 957 00:56:59,545 --> 00:57:00,796 -You know what I mean? -Yeah. 958 00:57:00,879 --> 00:57:02,756 So now, he'll come up, 959 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,009 "Mr. Gilbert Roland, Ms. Caron," and everything. 960 00:57:06,093 --> 00:57:09,012 And then he'll come to my dressing room with a whole lot of bullshit. 961 00:57:09,096 --> 00:57:10,931 "Satchmo, you better come on out there, 962 00:57:11,014 --> 00:57:14,184 or they'll send in Harry James." 963 00:57:14,268 --> 00:57:15,978 I said, "Listen, you cocksucker. 964 00:57:16,061 --> 00:57:18,438 If they wanted Harry James, they'd have had him in front." 965 00:57:18,522 --> 00:57:21,233 I said, "The first place, he ain't gonna play what I played out there." 966 00:57:21,316 --> 00:57:23,193 He said, "Why?" I said, "'Cause he can't." 967 00:57:23,277 --> 00:57:25,946 Just had to be a nasty son of a bitch with him. 968 00:57:26,029 --> 00:57:30,033 And I said, "You take it-- You tell MGM to shove that picture up their ass." 969 00:57:30,117 --> 00:57:31,410 Then he left me alone. 970 00:57:31,493 --> 00:57:33,537 I said, "I don't-- I ain't a movie star nohow." 971 00:57:33,620 --> 00:57:36,290 I said, "Why you hand me that shit? 'Cause I'm colored?" 972 00:57:36,373 --> 00:57:39,793 I didn't appreciate it. I'm just showing you what I go through for no reason. 973 00:57:39,877 --> 00:57:43,380 You take the smallest fucking peckerwood, 974 00:57:43,463 --> 00:57:45,924 hand you that shit, and the big bosses appreciate you. 975 00:57:46,008 --> 00:57:47,843 He made as many as 30 films. 976 00:57:47,926 --> 00:57:52,264 The Glenn Miller Story, the way he's cast in that is very positive. 977 00:57:52,347 --> 00:57:56,852 Yes, Basin Street is the street 978 00:57:58,437 --> 00:58:00,898 Where the folks really meet 979 00:58:01,565 --> 00:58:02,566 Who is he? 980 00:58:03,442 --> 00:58:05,986 Who? Louis Armstrong. 981 00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:11,450 A Song Was Born, what Louis does there is just performing. 982 00:58:12,951 --> 00:58:16,205 They took a reet jungle beat Brought it to Basin Street 983 00:58:16,288 --> 00:58:19,041 And that's how jazz was born 984 00:58:19,124 --> 00:58:22,127 In High Society, he is Louis Armstrong. 985 00:58:28,133 --> 00:58:30,886 Hello, Dolly! Of course, it's the last one. 986 00:58:30,969 --> 00:58:34,556 -Well, hello, Dolly -Look who's here. 987 00:58:35,307 --> 00:58:38,143 -This is Louis, Dolly -Hello, Louis. 988 00:58:38,769 --> 00:58:41,605 It's so nice to have you back 989 00:58:41,688 --> 00:58:43,357 Where you belong 990 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,651 They didn't write a whole lot of parts, 991 00:58:45,734 --> 00:58:47,236 you know, character parts-- 992 00:58:47,319 --> 00:58:51,823 They just let me be myself in pictures. That's what made it awful nice. 993 00:58:51,907 --> 00:58:56,036 We all can't be Reinhardts and things like that. 994 00:58:56,537 --> 00:58:58,163 So they just tell me, "Be yourself." 995 00:58:59,122 --> 00:59:02,459 All my days were happiness 'cause I'm born with nothing, 996 00:59:03,085 --> 00:59:04,670 come here with nothing. 997 00:59:04,753 --> 00:59:06,755 And I come through the world, 998 00:59:06,839 --> 00:59:10,884 whatever nothing I had, I enjoyed playing the music. 999 00:59:10,968 --> 00:59:14,221 And what little advancement or whatever it was, 1000 00:59:14,304 --> 00:59:16,682 it was more than I had at all times. 1001 00:59:16,765 --> 00:59:20,519 And right now, it's still more than I had. 1002 00:59:20,602 --> 00:59:23,647 And the fans are still happy with Satchmo. 1003 00:59:23,730 --> 00:59:27,943 And I wouldn't give a damn if they had ten trillion dollars. 1004 00:59:28,026 --> 00:59:32,447 They can't be no happier than Louis "Satchmo" Armstrong and Lucille. 1005 00:59:32,531 --> 00:59:38,078 We never want an estate where servants be falling all over each other. 1006 00:59:38,161 --> 00:59:41,874 They're working for colored people. And then-- We don't wanna go through that. 1007 00:59:41,957 --> 00:59:44,459 And I want to live the life that I come through 1008 00:59:44,543 --> 00:59:51,008 with what Mayann, my mother, taught me… enjoy the rudimentals. 1009 00:59:51,091 --> 00:59:52,342 To hell with the rest of it. 1010 00:59:58,515 --> 01:00:01,727 I'm confessin' that I love you 1011 01:00:04,897 --> 01:00:08,775 Tell me, do you love me too? 1012 01:00:11,111 --> 01:00:15,407 I'm confessin' that I need you 1013 01:00:16,408 --> 01:00:18,160 Honest, I do 1014 01:00:18,660 --> 01:00:22,456 Oh, baby, need you every moment 1015 01:00:22,539 --> 01:00:23,665 Oh, yeah? 1016 01:00:23,749 --> 01:00:25,626 Lucille, how did he propose? I mean-- 1017 01:00:25,709 --> 01:00:27,503 -What did he say to you? -Well, actually-- 1018 01:00:27,586 --> 01:00:31,298 -How long did you know him? -About two years. 1019 01:00:31,882 --> 01:00:33,592 -Two years? -Oh, yes. 1020 01:00:33,675 --> 01:00:35,969 Well, it wasn't love at first sight then, was it, Louis? 1021 01:00:36,053 --> 01:00:37,638 Plenty love going on then. 1022 01:00:39,389 --> 01:00:41,141 But not at first sight. I see. 1023 01:00:41,225 --> 01:00:43,268 Well, you know, I'm Louis's fourth wife. 1024 01:00:43,352 --> 01:00:44,394 -I see. -Uh-huh. 1025 01:00:44,478 --> 01:00:48,273 And he was separated from his third wife. 1026 01:00:48,357 --> 01:00:50,776 And so the-- We couldn't marry. 1027 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,612 And he kept saying, "Well, you just stick around, 1028 01:00:53,695 --> 01:00:55,489 you know, wait for Pops. 1029 01:00:55,572 --> 01:00:57,407 And I'll get a divorce." You know. 1030 01:00:57,491 --> 01:00:59,368 And he's taking care of-- This woman's getting alimony. 1031 01:00:59,451 --> 01:01:01,662 -She's not about to give him up. -Yeah. 1032 01:01:01,745 --> 01:01:03,205 And I just laughed. 1033 01:01:04,623 --> 01:01:07,000 He just tells me, "Now, you just stay put, you know. 1034 01:01:07,084 --> 01:01:09,628 And one of these days, I'll… 1035 01:01:09,711 --> 01:01:11,713 She'll give me a divorce, and we'll marry." 1036 01:01:11,797 --> 01:01:15,050 -Yeah. -And I'm young. But how long do you wait? 1037 01:01:15,551 --> 01:01:18,512 So I was seen on the scene with the young boys, 1038 01:01:18,595 --> 01:01:19,972 and Louis got tired of that. 1039 01:01:20,055 --> 01:01:21,682 And he says, "Look, I can't hold you down. 1040 01:01:21,765 --> 01:01:22,975 I guess I better marry you." 1041 01:01:23,058 --> 01:01:24,643 -You right. -"I'll get the divorce." 1042 01:01:26,061 --> 01:01:29,523 Am I guessin' that you love me, babe 1043 01:01:29,606 --> 01:01:31,525 Oh, yeah 1044 01:01:32,985 --> 01:01:37,614 Dreaming dreams of you in vain, vain 1045 01:01:40,117 --> 01:01:44,413 I'm confessin' that I love you 1046 01:01:47,249 --> 01:01:48,625 Chops. 1047 01:01:48,709 --> 01:01:52,254 Over again 1048 01:01:58,218 --> 01:02:03,932 Well, what has been to you, the most encouraging things? 1049 01:02:04,516 --> 01:02:08,187 My fourth wife, she fixed a nice home, 1050 01:02:08,687 --> 01:02:12,482 not elaborate, just someplace where you settle down. 1051 01:02:12,566 --> 01:02:14,443 Your castle. 1052 01:02:14,526 --> 01:02:18,530 It's such a pleasure to go home. That's why I canceled the road tour. 1053 01:02:22,075 --> 01:02:27,414 3456 107th Street. 1054 01:02:27,497 --> 01:02:29,750 -107th? -Yeah. Street. 1055 01:02:30,334 --> 01:02:33,629 Corona, New York. The Queens. 1056 01:02:33,712 --> 01:02:37,299 It should be Long Island, but, New York for many. 1057 01:02:38,675 --> 01:02:40,427 We would stay at my apartment, 1058 01:02:40,511 --> 01:02:44,890 but my mother had to get out of her bedroom and sleep in my small room 1059 01:02:44,973 --> 01:02:46,642 so Louis and I could have the large bedroom 1060 01:02:46,725 --> 01:02:49,061 for the few days of-- that we went home. 1061 01:02:49,144 --> 01:02:51,230 So I decided to buy a house. 1062 01:02:51,813 --> 01:02:54,191 And I told Louis, "Let's get a house." 1063 01:02:54,274 --> 01:02:56,985 And he said, "What do you want a house for? 1064 01:02:57,069 --> 01:03:00,322 We'll be traveling. I'll get a hotel room." 1065 01:03:00,405 --> 01:03:03,742 And I wasn't about to be cooped up in a hotel room. 1066 01:03:03,825 --> 01:03:07,412 And after being married to Louis for a few months, 1067 01:03:07,496 --> 01:03:13,001 I found that it wasn't very easy to argue with Louis. 1068 01:03:13,794 --> 01:03:15,504 If he made his mind up about something, 1069 01:03:15,587 --> 01:03:18,924 he was very, very positive that you couldn't change his mind. 1070 01:03:19,007 --> 01:03:21,260 And so he kept not wanting this house. 1071 01:03:21,343 --> 01:03:23,804 And I'm a very stubborn person myself. 1072 01:03:23,887 --> 01:03:26,932 And so I said, "This guy doesn't know what the house is all about." 1073 01:03:27,766 --> 01:03:30,060 I bought the house myself and didn't tell him. 1074 01:03:30,644 --> 01:03:33,355 I had had the house eight months before I told Louis. 1075 01:03:34,356 --> 01:03:36,358 Eight whole months. 1076 01:03:36,441 --> 01:03:40,028 Meanwhile, my mother's writing me about what's happening, 1077 01:03:40,112 --> 01:03:43,031 and they're planting flowers and this, that and the other. 1078 01:03:43,657 --> 01:03:46,618 So finally, I tell him, two weeks before we were to go back to New York. 1079 01:03:46,702 --> 01:03:49,621 And I told him, I said, "Pops, I got something to tell you." 1080 01:03:50,414 --> 01:03:52,541 So he said, "Well, what have you done now?" 1081 01:03:52,624 --> 01:03:53,959 I said, "I haven't done anything-- 1082 01:03:54,042 --> 01:03:56,670 I don't think you're going to be unhappy about what I've done. 1083 01:03:56,753 --> 01:04:00,924 But I wanna-- I have to tell you that we've moved." 1084 01:04:01,008 --> 01:04:03,302 And he said, "We've what?" He said, "We've moved?" 1085 01:04:03,385 --> 01:04:05,387 He said, "That's all right. You got a larger apartment?" 1086 01:04:05,470 --> 01:04:07,139 I said, "No, I bought a house." 1087 01:04:07,222 --> 01:04:11,393 So he looked at me like I was, you know, like I was a cow with seven horns. 1088 01:04:12,060 --> 01:04:15,564 Now he said, "How did you pay for it? You didn't ask me for any money." 1089 01:04:15,647 --> 01:04:19,151 I said, "You have to remember, I have been working for 13 years. 1090 01:04:19,234 --> 01:04:20,944 I have a little money saved up. 1091 01:04:21,028 --> 01:04:24,656 And so, when I approached you about a house and you were so down on it, 1092 01:04:24,740 --> 01:04:28,160 I didn't ask you. I just took my money, and I put the down payment on the house, 1093 01:04:28,243 --> 01:04:29,953 and I've been keeping the payments up." 1094 01:04:30,037 --> 01:04:31,538 I said, "Now that you know about the house, 1095 01:04:31,622 --> 01:04:33,373 you can take the payments over." 1096 01:04:34,458 --> 01:04:36,877 But I've never been able to move Louis from that place. 1097 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,463 Once he got in that place, he loved it. 1098 01:04:58,941 --> 01:05:01,818 Mrs. Armstrong, do you always go with Louis wherever he goes? 1099 01:05:01,902 --> 01:05:02,778 Yes, I do… 1100 01:05:02,861 --> 01:05:04,446 It's your job to look after him? 1101 01:05:04,530 --> 01:05:08,492 That's part of my marital vow to take care of the husband. 1102 01:05:08,575 --> 01:05:13,330 -Yes. -And while I-- We travel a lot. 1103 01:05:13,413 --> 01:05:16,333 We try to maintain a home life wherever we go. 1104 01:05:16,416 --> 01:05:17,918 So we were constantly together. 1105 01:05:18,001 --> 01:05:21,880 There was-- There wasn't that separation, 1106 01:05:21,964 --> 01:05:25,384 as most musicians and wives have. 1107 01:05:26,426 --> 01:05:27,678 But then, I was fortunate 1108 01:05:27,761 --> 01:05:30,138 for the simple reason that Louis wanted me with him. 1109 01:05:31,181 --> 01:05:34,101 And secondly, he could afford to keep me with him. 1110 01:05:34,184 --> 01:05:36,603 And the other chaps couldn't afford to take their families. 1111 01:05:37,396 --> 01:05:39,147 Did it get boring at any time, 1112 01:05:39,231 --> 01:05:42,317 -listening to Louis night after night? -You gotta be kidding. 1113 01:05:42,401 --> 01:05:44,570 -Really? -How could anyone be bored 1114 01:05:44,653 --> 01:05:46,071 with those beautiful notes? 1115 01:05:46,655 --> 01:05:50,450 Yeah, I had a audience with the pope. 1116 01:05:51,076 --> 01:05:52,995 You had an audience with the pope? 1117 01:05:54,288 --> 01:05:56,039 And I remember that morning, 1118 01:05:56,123 --> 01:05:59,042 there was 10,000 people there waiting just to see him. 1119 01:05:59,710 --> 01:06:01,879 And my wife, she's dressed for the occasion, 1120 01:06:01,962 --> 01:06:06,175 had on a outfit with a black veil. 1121 01:06:06,258 --> 01:06:07,968 And I'm sharp. 1122 01:06:09,052 --> 01:06:11,638 So he asked me, "Have you any children?" 1123 01:06:12,514 --> 01:06:16,101 I said, "Well, no, daddy. But we still wailing." 1124 01:06:16,185 --> 01:06:17,186 And-- 1125 01:06:37,706 --> 01:06:39,833 Now, let's talk about pot. 1126 01:06:39,917 --> 01:06:42,002 Yeah. 1127 01:06:42,085 --> 01:06:44,421 I'm only sorry you couldn't be here with us longer. 1128 01:06:44,505 --> 01:06:45,797 I wish you could have gotten higher. 1129 01:06:45,881 --> 01:06:48,050 But why don't you go and say hello to the folks on the panel? 1130 01:06:48,133 --> 01:06:49,927 Well, I'm getting higher next time round. 1131 01:06:51,887 --> 01:06:55,682 Mary… wouna. 1132 01:06:55,766 --> 01:07:02,064 Honey, you sure was good and I enjoyed you very much. 1133 01:07:03,357 --> 01:07:06,693 Marijuana is more of a medicine than dope. 1134 01:07:09,738 --> 01:07:12,908 Why did he do it? Well, because it relaxes you. 1135 01:07:13,534 --> 01:07:15,994 It does something to your hearing. 1136 01:07:16,078 --> 01:07:19,623 And if you're a musician, it does something to your playing. 1137 01:07:23,418 --> 01:07:26,421 "I have to go through the whole world with this horn, 1138 01:07:26,505 --> 01:07:27,965 making millions happy, 1139 01:07:28,048 --> 01:07:32,928 and at the same time ducking and dodging cops, dicks, so forth. 1140 01:07:33,846 --> 01:07:37,140 Why? 'Cause they say it's against the law. 1141 01:07:37,224 --> 01:07:40,477 I'm not so particular about having a permit to carry a gun. 1142 01:07:41,103 --> 01:07:45,190 All I want is a permit to carry that good shit." 1143 01:07:45,274 --> 01:07:48,777 On the West Coast, California, in 1931, 1144 01:07:49,319 --> 01:07:53,448 when I got busted, it was during our intermission. 1145 01:07:53,532 --> 01:07:57,286 Two big, healthy dicks-- detectives, that is-- 1146 01:07:57,369 --> 01:08:01,623 come from behind a car, man, and say to us, 1147 01:08:02,499 --> 01:08:04,710 "We'll take the roach, boys." 1148 01:08:04,793 --> 01:08:10,424 I spent nine days in the downtown Los Angeles city jail. 1149 01:08:10,507 --> 01:08:13,844 And when all of those prisoners looked up 1150 01:08:13,927 --> 01:08:20,267 and saw me walk in with this great big deputy sheriff, 1151 01:08:20,350 --> 01:08:24,770 they all en masse started, "Hey, Louis Armstrong!" 1152 01:08:25,354 --> 01:08:28,317 The judge gave me a suspended sentence, 1153 01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:33,404 and I went to work that night, wailed just like nothing happened. 1154 01:09:08,982 --> 01:09:10,108 Ladies and gentlemen, 1155 01:09:10,817 --> 01:09:12,653 Louis Armstrong has told me 1156 01:09:12,736 --> 01:09:17,032 that his most honored ambition is being fulfilled tonight 1157 01:09:17,115 --> 01:09:19,576 in playing with the New York Philharmonic. 1158 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,412 I should say that it is rather we, 1159 01:09:23,497 --> 01:09:26,166 on the longer-haired side of the fence, 1160 01:09:26,250 --> 01:09:30,962 who are honored in that when we play "The Saint Louis Blues," 1161 01:09:31,046 --> 01:09:35,008 we are only doing a blown-up imitation of what he does. 1162 01:09:35,591 --> 01:09:38,386 And what he does is real and true 1163 01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:41,765 and honest and simple, and even noble. 1164 01:09:49,481 --> 01:09:53,902 I never shall forget the first time we went to Africa in 1956. 1165 01:09:57,781 --> 01:09:59,199 "My God, darling. 1166 01:10:00,075 --> 01:10:03,287 I had no idea I would be so thrillingly received 1167 01:10:03,370 --> 01:10:07,791 by my brothers and sisters in my homeland, Africa." 1168 01:10:09,251 --> 01:10:13,672 This is, though, a tour to make friends and influence people. 1169 01:10:13,755 --> 01:10:16,758 Well, I guess that's the idea when they did it. 1170 01:10:16,842 --> 01:10:20,637 But all-- We want to get out there and blow for them cats. They're all fans. 1171 01:10:22,806 --> 01:10:25,809 Yeah, we got off the plane and… 1172 01:10:25,893 --> 01:10:29,646 All for you Lord, for you, Louis 1173 01:10:39,323 --> 01:10:40,532 La la la 1174 01:10:44,244 --> 01:10:48,290 The attendance was so fantastic that there wasn't a place to hold it 1175 01:10:48,373 --> 01:10:51,043 except the polo grounds, which was just a big stadium. 1176 01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:12,397 And then one of the chiefs said to Louis, "Hello, Satchmo." 1177 01:11:12,481 --> 01:11:13,607 And Louis told me, he said, 1178 01:11:13,690 --> 01:11:15,943 "See that, Moms? They even got my records in the bush." 1179 01:11:16,026 --> 01:11:18,320 You know, everybody knows Pops. 1180 01:11:27,788 --> 01:11:30,290 -I had a wonderful time. -I take it you did. 1181 01:11:30,374 --> 01:11:32,584 Yeah, they had about nine tribes down there. 1182 01:11:32,668 --> 01:11:36,004 That's-- That come from miles away just to dance with us. 1183 01:11:36,713 --> 01:11:39,800 And in one of those tribes, they had a chick swinging there, 1184 01:11:39,883 --> 01:11:40,884 looked just like my mother. 1185 01:11:40,968 --> 01:11:43,595 Man, I made the cameraman call her over here 1186 01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:46,640 and let her put a couple of Wiggle Waggle Woos on there for me. 1187 01:11:53,438 --> 01:11:54,690 Here's a song we did 1188 01:11:54,773 --> 01:11:57,484 that was all about one of the big events of the year 1189 01:11:57,568 --> 01:11:58,819 in my hometown, 1190 01:11:58,902 --> 01:12:01,363 the Zulu Parade in Mardi Gras week. 1191 01:12:02,197 --> 01:12:07,077 But it wasn't until 1949, 23 years after I made this record, 1192 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:11,331 that they elected Satchmo to be the king of the Zulus. 1193 01:12:18,755 --> 01:12:20,174 I got to New Orleans, 1194 01:12:20,257 --> 01:12:22,926 and it was like everybody was crazy in that city. 1195 01:12:23,010 --> 01:12:24,344 Everybody was packing the streets, 1196 01:12:24,428 --> 01:12:26,388 and there were all kinds of racial paradoxes, 1197 01:12:26,471 --> 01:12:29,600 like the Zulus were prepared to present Louis that night 1198 01:12:29,683 --> 01:12:32,352 in a concert at Booker T. Washington Auditorium. 1199 01:12:32,436 --> 01:12:35,439 Armstrong's All Star Band has played 45 minutes 1200 01:12:35,522 --> 01:12:40,652 of New Orleans's own Dixieland music to an enthusiastic capacity crowd. 1201 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:42,905 I went to the concert, and I saw 1202 01:12:42,988 --> 01:12:45,908 Black spectators seated on the left and the center aisles, 1203 01:12:45,991 --> 01:12:47,868 while the whites were over on the right aisle. 1204 01:12:47,951 --> 01:12:50,454 But on the stage, I saw Louis and Jack Teagarden 1205 01:12:50,537 --> 01:12:51,872 with their arms around each other, 1206 01:12:51,955 --> 01:12:55,209 radiating interracial brotherhood, singing a duet. 1207 01:12:55,709 --> 01:12:58,170 And I saw white officials shaking hands with Louis on stage, 1208 01:12:58,253 --> 01:13:01,298 and congratulating him, and paying tribute to his talent. 1209 01:13:01,381 --> 01:13:02,883 I saw Louis bursting with pride 1210 01:13:02,966 --> 01:13:05,802 when the mayor of New Orleans gave him the keys to the city. 1211 01:13:05,886 --> 01:13:07,554 That was the week he made the cover of Time. 1212 01:13:07,638 --> 01:13:10,015 It was on every white newsstand in town. 1213 01:13:10,098 --> 01:13:12,100 On behalf of the people of New Orleans, 1214 01:13:12,184 --> 01:13:15,354 the city with a colorful past and a promising future, 1215 01:13:15,437 --> 01:13:17,481 we want to present you the key to the city. 1216 01:13:18,315 --> 01:13:19,983 To Louis Armstrong. 1217 01:13:20,067 --> 01:13:22,110 Thank you very much, Mayor. 1218 01:13:22,194 --> 01:13:24,947 This is really a treat. This is the thrill of my life. 1219 01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:27,199 But I also knew that there were hundreds of places 1220 01:13:27,282 --> 01:13:29,576 to which those keys would never admit him. 1221 01:13:33,372 --> 01:13:35,541 When he was king, everybody was getting out. 1222 01:13:35,624 --> 01:13:40,838 People that didn't get out on Carnival, they going out to see Louis Armstrong, 1223 01:13:40,921 --> 01:13:42,047 king of the Zulu. 1224 01:13:42,756 --> 01:13:44,299 And there was so many people. 1225 01:13:44,383 --> 01:13:46,385 Everything got held up, you know what I mean? 1226 01:13:46,468 --> 01:13:48,053 It was stopping everything, 1227 01:13:48,136 --> 01:13:50,180 and he just had to get off the float, you know. 1228 01:13:50,264 --> 01:13:52,724 'Cause sooner or later, man, he might have got hurt up there. 1229 01:13:52,808 --> 01:13:53,809 You understand me? 1230 01:13:55,227 --> 01:13:58,647 Rex was the biggest parade of all the white parades. 1231 01:13:58,730 --> 01:14:01,191 And by white, I mean it was what it was. It was segregated. 1232 01:14:01,275 --> 01:14:04,486 But Zulu was like the height of everything. 1233 01:14:04,570 --> 01:14:07,865 So, for Pops, he wanted to be the king of Zulu his entire life. 1234 01:14:07,948 --> 01:14:11,076 The king of Zulu would dress up in blackface. 1235 01:14:11,743 --> 01:14:12,995 That's what he did. 1236 01:14:13,078 --> 01:14:16,707 So Louis Armstrong did it, and it became, you know, a crime. 1237 01:14:18,792 --> 01:14:21,378 -That was a great thing then… -Yeah. 1238 01:14:21,461 --> 01:14:25,090 …'cause what's going on now with all these marches and organizations, 1239 01:14:25,174 --> 01:14:28,594 they won't let it happen no more now, you know, all that makeup. 1240 01:14:29,553 --> 01:14:31,263 First thing about blackface is 1241 01:14:31,346 --> 01:14:34,057 we have to understand that it comes out of minstrelsy. 1242 01:14:34,141 --> 01:14:37,394 Minstrelsy was not invented to elevate Negroes. 1243 01:14:38,103 --> 01:14:44,735 Minstrelsy was invented to get jobs for white guys who were imitating Negroes. 1244 01:14:46,236 --> 01:14:50,240 Now, what it became, ironically, 1245 01:14:50,324 --> 01:14:57,289 was the first mass popular phenomenon in American culture. 1246 01:15:03,504 --> 01:15:05,797 You have to know what the tradition is. 1247 01:15:06,507 --> 01:15:09,134 So it's people everywhere who don't know what that tradition is. 1248 01:15:09,218 --> 01:15:12,054 All they're seeing is a blackface minstrel, 1249 01:15:12,137 --> 01:15:13,931 but he wasn't looking at it like that. 1250 01:15:14,014 --> 01:15:16,600 You had a lot of traditions and things that you had 1251 01:15:16,683 --> 01:15:20,395 that were viable and good and meaningful. 1252 01:15:21,104 --> 01:15:24,274 And then, during the movement, we threw all of that stuff out. 1253 01:15:24,358 --> 01:15:26,902 Dancing a certain way, cheesing, Tomming. 1254 01:15:27,694 --> 01:15:30,280 And we didn't want to be a part of any of that. 1255 01:15:35,285 --> 01:15:36,954 "And after the funeral, 1256 01:15:37,037 --> 01:15:39,623 with just Sonny and me alone in the empty kitchen, 1257 01:15:40,374 --> 01:15:43,544 I tried to find out something about him. 1258 01:15:44,294 --> 01:15:45,546 'What do you want to do?' 1259 01:15:46,171 --> 01:15:48,632 'I want to play jazz,' he said. 1260 01:15:49,132 --> 01:15:51,844 'You mean-- like Louis Armstrong?' 1261 01:15:52,469 --> 01:15:54,388 His face closed as though I'd struck him. 1262 01:15:54,972 --> 01:15:58,767 'No, I'm not talking about none of that old-time, down-home crap.'" 1263 01:15:59,476 --> 01:16:04,106 Pops, how much do you think you've lost out of-- 1264 01:16:04,606 --> 01:16:07,067 not your own life and certainly not your own pride, 1265 01:16:07,150 --> 01:16:10,529 but out of commercial life by being born Black in a white country? 1266 01:16:10,612 --> 01:16:13,073 No, I don't look at it that way. 1267 01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:17,494 Your color don't mean shit to me if you're a dumb son of a bitch. 1268 01:16:18,203 --> 01:16:19,204 You understand? 1269 01:16:19,288 --> 01:16:22,708 Right, so, are you a man or mouse? It's up to you. 1270 01:16:23,208 --> 01:16:26,795 A lot of young people resented the way 1271 01:16:26,879 --> 01:16:30,632 they thought Armstrong was too submissive to the United States. 1272 01:16:30,716 --> 01:16:33,468 If you coming up in the '50s and '60s, 1273 01:16:33,552 --> 01:16:34,928 there's a different aesthetic, 1274 01:16:35,012 --> 01:16:38,098 a different kind of attitude, political attitude, in the street. 1275 01:16:38,182 --> 01:16:41,935 And they didn't understand Louis because Louis was always affable, 1276 01:16:42,019 --> 01:16:42,895 always smiling. 1277 01:16:46,773 --> 01:16:47,774 Yay! 1278 01:16:47,858 --> 01:16:51,737 Keeps that Georgia on my mind 1279 01:16:51,820 --> 01:16:53,572 Yeah 1280 01:16:53,655 --> 01:16:55,365 Mmm 1281 01:16:57,075 --> 01:17:00,621 They don't realize that Louis was doing that 1282 01:17:00,704 --> 01:17:02,664 when he was around his friends. 1283 01:17:03,457 --> 01:17:05,959 -He was acting the same way. -That's right. 1284 01:17:06,043 --> 01:17:08,212 But when you do it in front of white folks 1285 01:17:08,295 --> 01:17:11,840 and try to make them enjoy what you feel-- 1286 01:17:11,924 --> 01:17:13,342 -That's what he was doing. -Right! 1287 01:17:13,425 --> 01:17:15,010 -They call him Uncle Tom. -Yes. 1288 01:17:15,093 --> 01:17:20,641 Oh, you can bend her legs Bend her arms and bathe her too 1289 01:17:22,809 --> 01:17:24,728 Let's fly down or drive down To New Orleans 1290 01:17:24,811 --> 01:17:27,606 First time you misplace words and do that shit, 1291 01:17:27,689 --> 01:17:29,942 they gonna say you Uncle Tomming. And goddamn it-- 1292 01:17:30,025 --> 01:17:33,612 And every fucking nationality comedian stays right in this category. 1293 01:17:33,695 --> 01:17:35,489 Look at the Jew, doesn't he use his dialect? 1294 01:17:35,572 --> 01:17:37,449 I ain't supposed to be no comedian. 1295 01:17:37,533 --> 01:17:38,951 That's just everyday life, you know. 1296 01:17:39,034 --> 01:17:41,370 "Suppose" my ass. You are a natural comedian. 1297 01:17:41,453 --> 01:17:42,955 Yeah, well, that's all right. 1298 01:17:43,038 --> 01:17:46,124 A lot of his film roles, the early ones, I never liked those. 1299 01:17:46,208 --> 01:17:49,837 For my generation to see him singing to horses and stuff, 1300 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,298 or the kind of way Black people acted in films, 1301 01:17:53,382 --> 01:17:54,842 it's not just Louis Armstrong. 1302 01:17:54,925 --> 01:17:57,052 Gosh all, git up 1303 01:17:57,135 --> 01:17:59,513 How'd they get so lit up? 1304 01:17:59,596 --> 01:18:02,140 Gosh all, git up 1305 01:18:02,224 --> 01:18:04,643 How'd they get that size? 1306 01:18:04,726 --> 01:18:07,354 Archie got his nose broke for fighting a nigga 1307 01:18:07,437 --> 01:18:10,023 'cause he didn't like the way he talked about me. 1308 01:18:10,107 --> 01:18:12,901 This smug motherfucker said, "Louis Armstrong, 1309 01:18:12,985 --> 01:18:14,403 Uncle Tom nigga." 1310 01:18:14,486 --> 01:18:17,573 When the fuck have I "Uncle Tommed" in my life? 1311 01:18:17,656 --> 01:18:19,449 I tell ya. All you have to do is 1312 01:18:19,533 --> 01:18:22,744 break up your face and mug, and a nigga say you're Uncle Tom. 1313 01:18:22,828 --> 01:18:26,081 -I'm there blowing this fucking horn… -A man got expressions, you know? 1314 01:18:27,749 --> 01:18:30,252 Most of the fellas I grew up with, myself included, 1315 01:18:30,335 --> 01:18:32,171 we used to laugh at Louis Armstrong. 1316 01:18:33,005 --> 01:18:34,464 We knew he could play the horn, 1317 01:18:34,548 --> 01:18:37,426 but that didn't save him from our malice and our ridicule. 1318 01:18:38,010 --> 01:18:40,679 Everywhere we'd look, there would be old Louis. 1319 01:18:41,346 --> 01:18:46,727 Sweat popping, eyes bugging, mouth wide open, grinning, 1320 01:18:46,810 --> 01:18:49,271 oh, my Lord, from ear to ear. 1321 01:18:50,522 --> 01:18:52,191 "Ooftah," we called it. 1322 01:18:52,858 --> 01:18:57,529 Mopping his brow, ducking his head, doing his thing for the white man. 1323 01:18:57,613 --> 01:18:59,907 Oh, yeah. 1324 01:19:02,326 --> 01:19:08,040 It wasn't until 1966, when we were working together 1325 01:19:08,123 --> 01:19:12,461 on a picture in New York with Sammy Davis Jr., Cicely Tyson, 1326 01:19:13,212 --> 01:19:14,755 that I got to know Louis better. 1327 01:19:16,465 --> 01:19:18,842 One day, we'd broken for lunch, 1328 01:19:18,926 --> 01:19:20,677 and I decided to stay inside. 1329 01:19:21,178 --> 01:19:23,347 It was quiet, so I thought everybody had gone. 1330 01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:26,642 I went back on the set to lie down on the bed, 1331 01:19:28,810 --> 01:19:34,191 and there was Louis by the door, sitting in a chair, 1332 01:19:34,274 --> 01:19:38,362 staring up and out into space 1333 01:19:39,947 --> 01:19:41,615 with the saddest, 1334 01:19:41,698 --> 01:19:45,160 most heartbreaking expression I've ever seen on a man's face. 1335 01:19:47,996 --> 01:19:49,915 I just stared at him for a moment. 1336 01:19:51,333 --> 01:19:54,837 And then when I tried to turn and sneak away, 1337 01:19:56,213 --> 01:19:57,673 the noise snapped Louis out of it. 1338 01:19:57,756 --> 01:20:00,217 And all of a sudden, there was that professional grin again, 1339 01:20:00,300 --> 01:20:01,301 mouth wide open. 1340 01:20:01,385 --> 01:20:03,303 He whipped out his handkerchief, mopped his brow. 1341 01:20:03,387 --> 01:20:04,972 "Hey, Pops, 1342 01:20:05,055 --> 01:20:08,433 look like you cats trying to starve old Louis to death, yeah." 1343 01:20:09,726 --> 01:20:12,145 I put on my face and grinned right back. 1344 01:20:15,482 --> 01:20:16,650 But it wasn't funny. 1345 01:20:18,569 --> 01:20:19,570 Not anymore. 1346 01:20:22,364 --> 01:20:25,659 What I saw in that look shook me. 1347 01:20:27,661 --> 01:20:28,912 It was my father. 1348 01:20:29,872 --> 01:20:31,123 My uncle. 1349 01:20:31,874 --> 01:20:34,793 Myself, down through the generations, 1350 01:20:35,794 --> 01:20:37,921 doing exactly what Louis had had to do, 1351 01:20:38,755 --> 01:20:39,882 for the same reason, 1352 01:20:41,383 --> 01:20:42,384 to survive. 1353 01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:45,262 I never laughed at Louis after that, 1354 01:20:47,389 --> 01:20:52,728 for beneath that gravel voice and that shuffle, 1355 01:20:55,105 --> 01:21:01,486 under all that mouth with more teeth than a piano had keys, 1356 01:21:04,156 --> 01:21:08,160 was a horn that could kill a man. 1357 01:21:09,077 --> 01:21:13,207 That horn is where Louis had kept his manhood hid all those years. 1358 01:21:13,832 --> 01:21:16,043 Enough for him, enough for all of us. 1359 01:21:39,441 --> 01:21:41,944 I understand you're somewhat of a politician. 1360 01:21:42,027 --> 01:21:43,820 Do you know anything about politics? 1361 01:21:43,904 --> 01:21:45,906 No. No. 1362 01:21:45,989 --> 01:21:49,952 Politics… I don't think you could print that-- 1363 01:21:50,911 --> 01:21:54,623 that are African golfers, and stuff like that. 1364 01:21:55,249 --> 01:21:59,545 We confuse what we perceived as the social demeanor 1365 01:22:00,379 --> 01:22:02,923 in that context of lynching-- 1366 01:22:03,423 --> 01:22:06,176 You understand? Overt segregation. 1367 01:22:06,260 --> 01:22:09,596 And we thought that Louis was submitting to that. 1368 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,725 Sometimes I feel 1369 01:22:14,685 --> 01:22:16,603 Like a motherless child 1370 01:22:16,687 --> 01:22:21,108 You know, Louis's expression was musical and artistic 1371 01:22:21,191 --> 01:22:22,526 and transcended that. 1372 01:22:22,609 --> 01:22:25,362 When it was possible for Louis to speak, he spoke. 1373 01:22:31,368 --> 01:22:33,203 Louis was very sensitive 1374 01:22:33,287 --> 01:22:38,584 when people did something that he felt-- I guess the word would be "unethical." 1375 01:22:39,585 --> 01:22:43,130 What about you? Do you think the colored students will show up? 1376 01:22:43,213 --> 01:22:45,215 If I got anything to do with it, they won't show up. 1377 01:22:45,299 --> 01:22:48,552 Well, I think it's a breaking point of the school integration. 1378 01:22:48,635 --> 01:22:51,263 I don't feel that they should have a right to go to school. 1379 01:22:51,346 --> 01:22:54,349 Oh, when the saints 1380 01:22:54,433 --> 01:22:56,226 When the saints 1381 01:22:56,977 --> 01:22:59,229 Go marching in 1382 01:22:59,313 --> 01:23:01,815 Go marching in 1383 01:23:01,899 --> 01:23:06,820 -When the saints go marching in -Yeah 1384 01:23:06,904 --> 01:23:08,822 Oh, yeah 1385 01:23:09,323 --> 01:23:14,786 I want to be in that number 1386 01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:16,830 Oh, yeah 1387 01:23:17,581 --> 01:23:23,545 When the saints come marching in 1388 01:23:25,672 --> 01:23:28,133 -When the saints -Oh, when the saints 1389 01:23:28,217 --> 01:23:30,844 -Go marching in -Are marching in 1390 01:23:30,928 --> 01:23:34,223 Who's gonna play on the day That the saints go marching in? 1391 01:23:34,306 --> 01:23:37,976 Well, man The mostest and the greatest 1392 01:23:38,060 --> 01:23:40,270 From the oldest to the latest 1393 01:23:40,354 --> 01:23:42,606 Gonna play in the band In the big bandstand 1394 01:23:42,689 --> 01:23:44,066 When the saints go marching in 1395 01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:46,777 -Now, Louis, how about Brahms? -He ain't no bum. 1396 01:23:46,860 --> 01:23:48,278 Little Rock, Arkansas. 1397 01:23:48,362 --> 01:23:49,821 The white population are determined 1398 01:23:49,905 --> 01:23:53,325 to prevent colored students from going to the school their own children attend. 1399 01:23:53,408 --> 01:23:55,994 And Mozart composed With all he had 1400 01:23:56,078 --> 01:23:58,622 With symphonies And operas and all that jazz 1401 01:23:58,705 --> 01:24:01,959 Later, the Central High School of Little Rock storm center was sealed off 1402 01:24:02,042 --> 01:24:03,085 by orders of the governor, 1403 01:24:03,168 --> 01:24:05,170 who called out the state National Guard. 1404 01:24:05,754 --> 01:24:08,966 Oh, when the saints Go marching in 1405 01:24:09,049 --> 01:24:10,217 Oh, when the saints 1406 01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:13,053 Colored youngsters arrived under safe conduct by the guards, 1407 01:24:13,136 --> 01:24:15,764 but no sooner had they arrived than they were off again. 1408 01:24:15,848 --> 01:24:18,308 Arkansas had evidently decided to make its own laws 1409 01:24:18,392 --> 01:24:19,560 on the subject of integration. 1410 01:24:19,643 --> 01:24:24,398 Go marching in 1411 01:24:25,774 --> 01:24:27,818 What are you gonna tell the Russians 1412 01:24:27,901 --> 01:24:30,320 when they ask you about the Little Rock incident? 1413 01:24:30,404 --> 01:24:32,739 It all depends what time they send me over there. 1414 01:24:32,823 --> 01:24:36,034 I don't think they should send me unless they straighten that mess down South. 1415 01:24:36,118 --> 01:24:39,997 Two, four, six, eight! We don't want to integrate! 1416 01:24:42,416 --> 01:24:47,546 They've been ignoring the Constitution. Although they're taught it in school. 1417 01:24:47,629 --> 01:24:49,923 But when they go home, their parents tell them different. 1418 01:24:50,007 --> 01:24:51,508 Say, "You don't have to abide by it 1419 01:24:51,592 --> 01:24:54,011 because we've been getting away with it a hundred years. 1420 01:24:54,094 --> 01:24:57,806 So, nobody tells on each other, so don't bother with it." 1421 01:24:57,890 --> 01:25:02,019 So, if they ask me what's happening if I go now, I can't tell a lie. 1422 01:25:02,102 --> 01:25:05,522 That's one thing. There's no worth lying the way I feel about it. 1423 01:25:06,023 --> 01:25:07,774 -Thank you, Louis. -Okay. 1424 01:25:08,317 --> 01:25:09,610 Now I'll say this to you. 1425 01:25:09,693 --> 01:25:12,988 I'll never open the public schools in Little Rock 1426 01:25:13,071 --> 01:25:15,657 on an integrated basis until the people say so. 1427 01:25:17,659 --> 01:25:19,703 You know, there's a certain type of naivete 1428 01:25:19,786 --> 01:25:21,038 that a country like this has, 1429 01:25:21,121 --> 01:25:24,750 in those who are super patriotic and they don't see anything. 1430 01:25:25,459 --> 01:25:27,085 It's just, "Everything we do is great." 1431 01:25:27,169 --> 01:25:31,173 And then those who are not patriotic at all and see that we don't do anything. 1432 01:25:31,757 --> 01:25:34,092 Louis Armstrong was not in either camp. 1433 01:25:34,593 --> 01:25:37,888 And I dare say that he was actually more in the forefront of civil rights 1434 01:25:37,971 --> 01:25:39,640 in terms of making statements 1435 01:25:40,140 --> 01:25:43,227 than a lot of the so-called modern musicians of that time were. 1436 01:25:43,310 --> 01:25:46,146 And even when he said what he said about Eisenhower in the '50s. 1437 01:25:46,230 --> 01:25:48,273 Yeah, he was upset about segregation. 1438 01:25:48,941 --> 01:25:51,360 Well, he said that as far as he was concerned, 1439 01:25:51,443 --> 01:25:53,487 Ike and the government could go to hell, 1440 01:25:54,071 --> 01:25:57,950 and he sang his version of "The Star-Spangled Banner" to me 1441 01:25:58,033 --> 01:26:00,285 with very dirty lyrics. 1442 01:26:00,369 --> 01:26:05,457 "Oh, say, can you mothers-- MFs see by the MF early light." 1443 01:26:06,124 --> 01:26:07,334 He was very mad. 1444 01:26:08,210 --> 01:26:10,420 Then he said a number of things, 1445 01:26:10,963 --> 01:26:15,843 one of which was, "As for Orval Faubus, he's just an ignorant plowboy." 1446 01:26:15,926 --> 01:26:17,678 Well, I think it's a damn shame 1447 01:26:17,761 --> 01:26:21,473 for people to be so deceitful and two-faced. 1448 01:26:21,557 --> 01:26:23,433 I mean, that governor. 1449 01:26:23,517 --> 01:26:24,935 I mean, I bet you right now, 1450 01:26:25,018 --> 01:26:27,896 he's got an old colored mammy there nursing his baby. 1451 01:26:27,980 --> 01:26:32,109 The nation alone, I mean, is misguided, cold-blooded. 1452 01:26:32,192 --> 01:26:33,819 Shame just to keep it up. 1453 01:26:33,902 --> 01:26:34,903 They can't stand it. 1454 01:26:34,987 --> 01:26:36,989 I mean, how can they rest well at night 1455 01:26:37,072 --> 01:26:39,074 thinking they have to go through that tomorrow? 1456 01:26:39,157 --> 01:26:42,160 The kids, they're only doing what their parents told 'em. 1457 01:26:43,161 --> 01:26:44,496 They wouldn't do it if-- 1458 01:26:45,497 --> 01:26:48,333 I mean, the colored people who, at the end of the day, 1459 01:26:48,417 --> 01:26:52,171 they-- I don't know why, but, uh, when they throw their… 1460 01:26:52,254 --> 01:26:54,548 We throw our heart in it and everything, 1461 01:26:54,631 --> 01:26:56,884 because we're just doing it for our country. 1462 01:26:57,718 --> 01:27:01,054 Everybody was astonished when Louis did it publicly, 1463 01:27:01,138 --> 01:27:05,392 but privately he had expressed stuff like that all his life. 1464 01:27:05,475 --> 01:27:10,856 You know, he was very conscious of what we now call civil rights. 1465 01:27:10,939 --> 01:27:14,067 He blew up. He put it on the line. 1466 01:27:14,151 --> 01:27:17,821 You know, and, of course, he had very, very bad comments 1467 01:27:17,905 --> 01:27:21,074 from our political leaders about making this particular statement. 1468 01:27:21,158 --> 01:27:24,161 That-- You know, they interviewed Adam Clayton Powell. 1469 01:27:24,244 --> 01:27:25,996 They interviewed Sammy Davis. 1470 01:27:26,079 --> 01:27:27,539 They put Pops down 1471 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,876 because they said he was a musician, he didn't know what he was talking about. 1472 01:27:30,959 --> 01:27:32,836 Louis was that kind of person. 1473 01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,213 He-- Either he said nothing, 1474 01:27:34,296 --> 01:27:35,339 and when he got angry, 1475 01:27:35,422 --> 01:27:38,217 he said what was in his heart and his mind. 1476 01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:41,803 It seems that the White House was waiting for 1477 01:27:41,887 --> 01:27:44,097 some big name to speak out, 1478 01:27:44,181 --> 01:27:46,308 and Louis made his statement today, 1479 01:27:46,391 --> 01:27:48,727 and the troops were in Little Rock the next morning. 1480 01:27:48,810 --> 01:27:52,898 After he'd made the statement, he sent Eisenhower a wire saying that 1481 01:27:52,981 --> 01:27:56,151 "If you will go in with the troops, I'll go with you." 1482 01:27:57,277 --> 01:27:58,987 That's little known, you know… 1483 01:28:00,030 --> 01:28:01,949 You know, it's a funny thing. 1484 01:28:02,032 --> 01:28:05,452 Nobody really stopped to really dig Pops, and it's an unfortunate thing. 1485 01:28:05,536 --> 01:28:08,080 He felt it deeply. He really did. 1486 01:28:08,580 --> 01:28:10,582 A prophet is without honor in his own country. 1487 01:28:10,666 --> 01:28:11,959 That's it. 1488 01:28:12,626 --> 01:28:14,211 Yes 1489 01:28:14,294 --> 01:28:15,295 Great. 1490 01:28:15,838 --> 01:28:18,465 We're gonna do this once more. Louis, and say… 1491 01:28:18,549 --> 01:28:20,926 Set man free 1492 01:28:21,009 --> 01:28:22,469 -Me too? -We-- No. 1493 01:28:22,553 --> 01:28:23,595 When they get through… 1494 01:28:23,679 --> 01:28:25,138 Set man free 1495 01:28:25,222 --> 01:28:30,102 They say I look like God 1496 01:28:30,185 --> 01:28:34,314 In the image of God Created he them 1497 01:28:34,398 --> 01:28:37,734 Could God be Black? 1498 01:28:37,818 --> 01:28:40,195 My God 1499 01:28:40,279 --> 01:28:45,367 The Real Ambassadors. It was meant to be a stage show. 1500 01:28:45,450 --> 01:28:49,454 And unfortunately, it never made it to Broadway. 1501 01:28:50,247 --> 01:28:52,416 The tale of it was 1502 01:28:52,499 --> 01:28:57,462 that jazz represented America in a very special way 1503 01:28:57,546 --> 01:29:02,134 and that jazz musicians were the real ambassadors, 1504 01:29:02,217 --> 01:29:05,137 not politicians or speech makers. 1505 01:29:05,220 --> 01:29:07,931 Can it be? 1506 01:29:08,015 --> 01:29:09,558 Hallelujah 1507 01:29:09,641 --> 01:29:12,269 He brought the same thing to every song he sang, 1508 01:29:12,352 --> 01:29:13,687 understanding the human condition. 1509 01:29:13,770 --> 01:29:16,190 Any kind of lyrics, he could just imbue with that. 1510 01:29:16,690 --> 01:29:19,443 That understanding, it's like a-- It's a spiritual thing. 1511 01:29:19,526 --> 01:29:21,904 It's a depth and an insight. 1512 01:29:21,987 --> 01:29:26,575 He's watching all the Earth 1513 01:29:27,159 --> 01:29:31,288 The simple emotional impact of jazz has cut through all kinds of barriers. 1514 01:29:31,371 --> 01:29:33,999 Louis Armstrong has become an extraordinary kind of… 1515 01:29:34,082 --> 01:29:35,751 roaming ambassador of goodwill. 1516 01:29:35,834 --> 01:29:37,878 Well, you might say he's America's ambassador with a horn. 1517 01:29:38,462 --> 01:29:41,715 I'm the real ambassador 1518 01:29:42,508 --> 01:29:47,346 It is evident I was sent By government to take your place 1519 01:29:47,429 --> 01:29:49,348 All I do is play the blues 1520 01:29:49,431 --> 01:29:53,101 See, Jack, I think you're wrong about me being the ambassador. 1521 01:29:53,185 --> 01:29:56,104 I think jazz is the ambassador. 1522 01:29:56,188 --> 01:30:00,734 Well, I might be the courier that takes the message over there. 1523 01:30:00,817 --> 01:30:03,654 But it's jazz that does the talking. 1524 01:30:03,737 --> 01:30:07,658 My horn and me have traveled from Sweden to Spain, 1525 01:30:07,741 --> 01:30:10,118 and when I played Berlin, 1526 01:30:10,202 --> 01:30:12,913 a lot of them cats jumped the iron fence to hear old Satchmo. 1527 01:30:15,541 --> 01:30:18,669 Which proves that music is stronger than nations. 1528 01:30:18,752 --> 01:30:20,754 I don't know much about politics, 1529 01:30:20,838 --> 01:30:23,090 but I know these people in foreign countries 1530 01:30:23,173 --> 01:30:26,510 hear all kinds of things about America, 1531 01:30:26,593 --> 01:30:28,929 some good, some bad. 1532 01:30:29,012 --> 01:30:31,723 I'm pretty sure what comes out of this horn 1533 01:30:31,807 --> 01:30:34,434 makes them feel better about us. 1534 01:30:35,394 --> 01:30:38,772 One thing is sure, they know a trumpet ain't no cannon. 1535 01:30:41,066 --> 01:30:44,862 It ought to be possible for American consumers of any color 1536 01:30:45,571 --> 01:30:49,825 to receive equal service in places of public accommodation, 1537 01:30:50,325 --> 01:30:54,580 such as hotels and restaurants and theaters and retail stores, 1538 01:30:55,330 --> 01:30:59,376 without being forced to resort to demonstrations in the street. 1539 01:30:59,459 --> 01:31:01,253 When you return to the United States, 1540 01:31:01,336 --> 01:31:05,048 do you intend to take a more active part in civil rights? 1541 01:31:05,132 --> 01:31:10,470 They have other people, politicians, who take care of things like that. 1542 01:31:10,554 --> 01:31:16,768 And so the best I can do is, put a little something in their till. 1543 01:31:16,852 --> 01:31:18,145 And that's my part. 1544 01:31:18,812 --> 01:31:22,608 That's the best I can do. Because I love everybody. 1545 01:31:22,691 --> 01:31:25,235 I mean, the white people, 1546 01:31:25,319 --> 01:31:28,405 they're my greatest fans all through the South. 1547 01:31:28,488 --> 01:31:32,409 We stay in the best hotels, and they give us the best courtesies, 1548 01:31:32,492 --> 01:31:38,165 and my biggest audience is people all over the United States. 1549 01:31:38,665 --> 01:31:41,251 So I can't abuse either one. 1550 01:31:42,085 --> 01:31:47,716 So I don't ignore the march and the-- whatever it is. 1551 01:31:47,799 --> 01:31:52,095 I just do my little part by putting a little money in my part. 1552 01:31:52,804 --> 01:31:55,265 Which some of them don't do, but I do. 1553 01:31:55,349 --> 01:31:57,643 You understand Pops? That's right. 1554 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,440 "For me, if I'd be out somewhere marching with a sign 1555 01:32:03,524 --> 01:32:05,776 and some cat hits me in my chops, 1556 01:32:05,859 --> 01:32:06,944 I'm finished. 1557 01:32:07,027 --> 01:32:10,072 A trumpet man gets hit in the chops, and he's through. 1558 01:32:10,614 --> 01:32:13,784 If my people don't dig me the way that I am, I'm sorry. 1559 01:32:14,451 --> 01:32:17,996 If they don't go along with me giving my dough instead of marching… 1560 01:32:19,164 --> 01:32:21,375 Well, every cat's entitled to his opinion. 1561 01:32:22,084 --> 01:32:25,796 But that's the way I figure I can help out and still keep working. 1562 01:32:25,879 --> 01:32:29,633 If they let me alone on this score, I'll do my part in my way. 1563 01:32:29,716 --> 01:32:33,554 Pops, I come out of a part of the South where it ain't no way in the world 1564 01:32:33,637 --> 01:32:35,556 you can forget you're colored. 1565 01:32:35,639 --> 01:32:38,267 My own mother went through hell down there. 1566 01:32:38,350 --> 01:32:40,519 My grandma used to have tears in her eyes 1567 01:32:40,602 --> 01:32:43,689 when she'd talk about the lynchings and all that crap. 1568 01:32:43,772 --> 01:32:48,026 Even myself, I've seen things that would make my flesh crawl. 1569 01:32:48,735 --> 01:32:53,115 But it wasn't a damn thing I could do about it and keep on breathing." 1570 01:32:53,699 --> 01:32:56,994 Louis, how much weight have you lost? You're skinny as a rail. 1571 01:32:57,494 --> 01:32:59,663 Well, I don't know, 1572 01:32:59,746 --> 01:33:03,250 around 40, 45 pounds, like that, in a couple of months. 1573 01:33:03,333 --> 01:33:05,794 Just took it easy, you know, and-- 1574 01:33:05,878 --> 01:33:07,671 What'd you do about the wardrobe? 1575 01:33:07,754 --> 01:33:10,299 Well, I just got rid of it. I mean, it was a pleasure. 1576 01:33:10,382 --> 01:33:12,467 You can't take them up but once. 1577 01:33:12,551 --> 01:33:15,012 So, I took it up once, and it was still too big. 1578 01:33:15,095 --> 01:33:16,096 So that was it. 1579 01:33:17,973 --> 01:33:19,725 Mr. Armstrong, everybody calls you Louis, 1580 01:33:19,808 --> 01:33:21,268 -and I hope I can. -Yes. 1581 01:33:21,351 --> 01:33:24,146 You've been very sick the last couple of years. How you feeling? 1582 01:33:24,229 --> 01:33:28,317 Well, I feel fine now, you know, and like the old saying, 1583 01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:29,776 "I've left it all behind me." 1584 01:33:29,860 --> 01:33:32,070 You went into the intensive care unit twice. 1585 01:33:32,154 --> 01:33:33,363 Twice, yeah, yeah. 1586 01:33:33,447 --> 01:33:35,657 Did you think your life was coming to an end? 1587 01:33:35,741 --> 01:33:38,660 A man going into intensive care twice, 1588 01:33:38,744 --> 01:33:40,704 you know, he's looking right at Gabriel, 1589 01:33:40,787 --> 01:33:41,788 and he's calling me. 1590 01:33:41,872 --> 01:33:43,832 He wants to blow a duet with me. 1591 01:33:45,250 --> 01:33:48,420 But I said, "No, daddy, your union card ain't straight. 1592 01:33:48,504 --> 01:33:49,630 I better wait." 1593 01:33:51,965 --> 01:33:54,718 When I was in the Beth Israel Hospital, 1594 01:33:54,801 --> 01:33:58,430 boy, I got boxes and boxes of mail 1595 01:33:58,514 --> 01:34:01,016 from everywhere over the waters. 1596 01:34:01,099 --> 01:34:05,854 "Come on, Satch, get out of that bed and come blow. We're waiting for you." 1597 01:34:06,772 --> 01:34:09,733 Hello, Louis. This is Enrico. 1598 01:34:10,526 --> 01:34:16,156 I hope you are getting better, and we are all praying for you. 1599 01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,034 How many more years do you think you'll be blowing that horn? 1600 01:34:19,117 --> 01:34:21,078 Well, I'll be blowing all my life. 1601 01:34:21,161 --> 01:34:23,205 I mean, that's the way it'll be, you know. 1602 01:34:23,288 --> 01:34:28,627 And I-- Even if I'll be teaching some kids or something, I'll always be around music. 1603 01:34:28,710 --> 01:34:32,089 Satchmo, you've been everywhere and done just about everything. 1604 01:34:32,172 --> 01:34:34,883 Is there anything you haven't done that you'd like to do? 1605 01:34:34,967 --> 01:34:38,720 Yeah, keep living. I ain't finished yet. 1606 01:34:42,015 --> 01:34:44,184 I see trees of green 1607 01:34:46,937 --> 01:34:49,147 Red roses too 1608 01:34:50,148 --> 01:34:55,988 I see them bloom for me and you 1609 01:34:56,655 --> 01:35:00,325 And I think to myself 1610 01:35:02,077 --> 01:35:06,456 What a wonderful world 1611 01:35:10,377 --> 01:35:14,131 I see skies of blue 1612 01:35:14,214 --> 01:35:18,468 There's a zillion people who dug that tune the way I did it when I felt it 1613 01:35:19,178 --> 01:35:23,557 because there's so much in "Wonderful World" 1614 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:29,188 that brings me back to my neighborhood where I live in Corona, New York. 1615 01:35:29,771 --> 01:35:32,774 Lucille and I, ever since we married, 1616 01:35:32,858 --> 01:35:35,986 we've been right there in that block. 1617 01:35:36,069 --> 01:35:39,823 And everybody keeps their little homes up like we do. 1618 01:35:39,907 --> 01:35:41,992 And it's just like one big family. 1619 01:35:42,075 --> 01:35:45,579 I saw three generations come up in them blocks. 1620 01:35:45,662 --> 01:35:46,872 So that's why I can say, 1621 01:35:46,955 --> 01:35:52,336 I hear babies cry and 1622 01:35:52,419 --> 01:35:55,923 I've watched them grow 1623 01:35:56,006 --> 01:36:01,970 They'll learn much more Than I'll ever know 1624 01:36:02,721 --> 01:36:05,766 And I think to myself 1625 01:36:07,809 --> 01:36:12,523 What a wonderful world 1626 01:36:15,359 --> 01:36:22,366 Yes, I think to myself 1627 01:36:23,659 --> 01:36:30,666 What a wonderful world 1628 01:36:33,752 --> 01:36:38,882 My doctor came to hear me blow, and he was perfectly satisfied. 1629 01:36:38,966 --> 01:36:42,261 He examined me thoroughly 1630 01:36:42,344 --> 01:36:46,932 to see if my blowing affected the old ticker, you know. 1631 01:36:47,015 --> 01:36:52,563 And the beats were perfectly normal. 1632 01:36:52,646 --> 01:36:55,774 Yeah. 1633 01:36:55,858 --> 01:36:59,653 Happy birthday to you 1634 01:37:00,153 --> 01:37:04,449 Happy birthday, dear Louis 1635 01:37:05,075 --> 01:37:10,372 Happy birthday to you 1636 01:37:10,455 --> 01:37:14,126 This is seven-- seventy steps. 1637 01:37:15,252 --> 01:37:17,379 And ten more steps, I'll be in heaven. 1638 01:37:20,132 --> 01:37:21,967 It had been my opinion 1639 01:37:22,050 --> 01:37:24,803 that Louis was gonna drop dead on stage one day. 1640 01:37:25,387 --> 01:37:28,348 I didn't feel bad about that because if he had to go, I think, 1641 01:37:28,432 --> 01:37:30,767 "What better way to go than doing the thing you love to do?" 1642 01:37:39,276 --> 01:37:44,239 A lot of us would be very happy to have accomplished 1643 01:37:44,323 --> 01:37:46,867 to the extent that he did what we originally set out to do. 1644 01:37:47,659 --> 01:37:50,746 He had all the material things that he needed, but more importantly, 1645 01:37:50,829 --> 01:37:54,499 he had the respect and the love of millions of people. 1646 01:37:54,583 --> 01:37:57,836 I mean, literally millions, all over the world. 1647 01:37:58,420 --> 01:38:00,214 What more could any man ask for? 1648 01:38:01,215 --> 01:38:06,512 The night Louis passed, I had no idea, this man-- 1649 01:38:06,595 --> 01:38:08,680 He disappointed-- He was doing so well. 1650 01:38:08,764 --> 01:38:10,307 It was a shock to me. 1651 01:38:10,390 --> 01:38:12,518 And he was telling me, he says, "You know, I feel good." 1652 01:38:12,601 --> 01:38:14,478 He says, "You know, I've got to get back to work." 1653 01:38:14,561 --> 01:38:20,692 So that's the mood Louis was in on the 5th of July of 1971. 1654 01:39:06,321 --> 01:39:09,199 Music kept Louis "Satchmo" Armstrong rolling 1655 01:39:09,283 --> 01:39:10,742 for 71 years, 1656 01:39:10,826 --> 01:39:14,454 until this morning when he died in his sleep in his home in New York. 1657 01:39:14,538 --> 01:39:18,000 He had been battling heart and kidney ailments for years. 1658 01:39:18,083 --> 01:39:20,878 We aren't saying goodbye to Louis tonight, 1659 01:39:20,961 --> 01:39:23,255 for a man's music does not die with him. 1660 01:39:23,338 --> 01:39:24,965 Certainly not this man's. 1661 01:39:25,048 --> 01:39:27,926 While we can only guess how Beethoven played the piano 1662 01:39:28,010 --> 01:39:30,512 or Mozart conducted an orchestra, 1663 01:39:30,596 --> 01:39:34,641 the sounds of Louis singing, playing, or just plain talking 1664 01:39:34,725 --> 01:39:37,311 will live as long as there is anyone to listen. 1665 01:39:38,187 --> 01:39:41,690 Well, he was a great artist and a very sweet man. 1666 01:39:42,524 --> 01:39:45,527 Down-to-earth, a lovely neighbor, 1667 01:39:46,945 --> 01:39:50,073 he was a regular, and he just loved to be around people. 1668 01:39:50,157 --> 01:39:54,411 He was more of a friend instead of celebrity in the neighborhood. 1669 01:40:03,045 --> 01:40:05,130 Bobby Hackett, learn anything from him? 1670 01:40:05,923 --> 01:40:08,634 To me, Pops was truly an immortal man. 1671 01:40:09,218 --> 01:40:11,887 And the truth of the matter is that he will never die. 1672 01:40:12,471 --> 01:40:16,183 I think what he left will always be heard all over the world and enjoyed, 1673 01:40:16,934 --> 01:40:21,021 and a very gentle reminder to everybody to love thy neighbor 1674 01:40:21,104 --> 01:40:23,023 and cut out the nonsense. 1675 01:40:23,607 --> 01:40:25,359 He was a man that was beloved 1676 01:40:25,442 --> 01:40:28,320 with a certain depth and intensity that you cannot fathom. 1677 01:40:28,820 --> 01:40:30,948 It was 'cause of how he touched people. 1678 01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:55,138 Well, folks, that was my life, and I enjoyed all of it. 1679 01:40:55,722 --> 01:40:56,807 Yes, I did. 1680 01:40:57,432 --> 01:40:59,518 I don't feel ashamed at all. 1681 01:41:00,310 --> 01:41:06,233 My life has always been an open book, so I have nothing to hide. 1682 01:41:07,025 --> 01:41:10,612 Bye-bye. Love aplenty. 1683 01:41:11,530 --> 01:41:17,578 Soul foodly, "Satchmo" Louis Armstrong. 1684 01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,334 This is one number I like to do, folks, 1685 01:41:24,418 --> 01:41:28,338 and it tells you a whole lot about my life. 1686 01:41:28,422 --> 01:41:30,340 I can't tell it all, you know. 1687 01:41:30,424 --> 01:41:32,509 But let's give you a good synopsis. 1688 01:41:47,816 --> 01:41:54,031 When I was born long ago 1689 01:41:56,950 --> 01:42:01,997 July the 4th, 19-0-0 1690 01:42:04,458 --> 01:42:11,089 It was back of town in James Alley 1691 01:42:13,175 --> 01:42:18,889 A boy from New Orleans 1692 01:42:20,516 --> 01:42:27,231 When I was only five or so 1693 01:42:29,691 --> 01:42:34,905 Down Rampart Street I used to go 1694 01:42:36,949 --> 01:42:43,330 That's when I heard The great King Oliver 1695 01:42:45,374 --> 01:42:51,255 Blowing jazz from New Orleans 1696 01:42:52,881 --> 01:42:56,677 Now folks, all these years… 1697 01:42:59,221 --> 01:43:00,973 I've had a ball. 1698 01:43:05,352 --> 01:43:07,312 Thank you, Lord. 1699 01:43:09,940 --> 01:43:11,692 And I thank you all. 1700 01:43:14,611 --> 01:43:18,240 You are very kind 1701 01:43:19,783 --> 01:43:23,161 To old Satchmo, yes 1702 01:43:24,496 --> 01:43:26,373 Nice looking boy, ain't he? 1703 01:43:27,332 --> 01:43:34,339 A boy from New Orleans 134899

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