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In April 2020, the United
States' Department of Defense
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took the unprecedented decision
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to declassify and release
to the world's media
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three previously
classified recordings
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made by US Navy pilots,
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showing what the DoD
described simply as
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"unexplained aerial phenomena".
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The recordings,
made between 2004 and 2015,
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appear to show a kind of
circular flying object,
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which might at one time have
been labelled a flying saucer.
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Upon its release, the footage
went viral on social media
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and, unusually, was accompanied by no explanation from
the authorities
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as to what the flying discs
might be.
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The accompanying press release
simply stated:
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A marked change in approach
from the Cold War era,
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which, as we shall see,
was a time of denial,
lies and admitted cover-ups
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by some of the United States'
most powerful institutions.
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The state of New Mexico
on the southern border of
the United States,
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where in July 1947,
the town of Roswell
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became the sight of one of
the most notorious cover-ups
in American history,
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although the repercussions
wouldn't be felt until several
decades into the future.
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A rancher named
William Mack Brazel
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was out riding when he stumbled upon a large amount of
mysterious-looking wreckage.
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Brazel informed
the local sheriff,
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who, in turn, reported
the wreckage to the Army
Air Force Base at Roswell,
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believing it to be the result
of some kind of military
air exercise.
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Air Force intelligence officer
Jesse Marcel
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drove out to the ranch and collected some of the wreckage,
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and is said to have been
so excited by the strange
other-worldly material
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that he rushed home in the early hours to show pieces of it
to his family.
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At the time, recent press
reports of lights in the sky
and flying saucers
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in other parts of the country
had already piqued
the public interest.
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So when local Air Force
press officer Walter Haut
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issued a press release,
claiming that the Air Force
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was in possession of a flying
disc, the story became
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an international
sensation overnight.
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The matter was referred
to General Roger M Ramey
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of the Eighth Air Force
in Fort Worth, Texas,
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and it was here that
the story was to be quashed
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almost as quickly
as it had been born.
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General Ramey ordered
a press conference,
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at which he showed off some
sections of what was purported
to be the famous wreckage.
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The news reports issued
the following day
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were anticlimactic,
to say the least.
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Indeed, the fragments on display at the press conference -
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small pieces of wood,
rubber and tinfoil -
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were less than impressive,
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and with that, public interest
in the story waned.
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Locally, however, many insisted that the material displayed
by General Ramey
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did not come from
the Roswell wreckage.
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And stories of Air Force personnel threatening witnesses
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and rumours of a second,
more extensive crash site,
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which was hidden from the
public, ensured that the story
would never quite die.
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Gary Heseltine is
the founder and editor of
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"UFO Truth Magazine".
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I, personally, have met
many of the top searchers
involved in the Roswell story.
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But I think there is something
like 800 witnesses loosely
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based throughout the decades
that have been traced
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and, without a shadow of
a doubt, it's a cover-up
by the US Air Force,
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the US Government and was
one of the pinnacle things
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that set us on a path of
ufology, the modern era.
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It was decades later,
under intense pressure
from UFO researchers,
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that the US Air Force
was finally forced to admit
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the water balloon
story was a lie.
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We were in a cold war
and there was a real fear
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of Soviet expansion and
there'd be a Third World War,
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which would, of course,
have been a nuclear atomic war,
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which would have probably
decimated the entire Earth.
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And I think that was
a genuine reason why
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they didn't want people to
think, well, actually there
might be aliens as well,
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and that's another treat -
we could have an alien invasion.
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Personally, I don't think
it stacks up longer term.
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As we shall see, there had
been a cover-up at Roswell.
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But a cover-up of what?
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In 1948, the US Air Force began to take an official interest
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in the UFO phenomenon.
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The US Air Force decided to
create a project called
Project Sign.
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And I think in the early days,
this was a serious attempt
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to study what was genuinely
baffling sightings,
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often by military personnel,
commercial pilots.
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People were genuinely
interested in the subject
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and they set up this
Project Sign
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with the intention of
trying to get to the truth.
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Project Sign was headed up
by General Nathan Twining
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and was established
in response both to
the incident at Roswell
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and another major sighting
that also took place in 1947.
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Mount Rainier, Washington State.
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On June 24th, 1947,
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a civilian pilot
named Kenneth Arnold
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was flying his light aircraft
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in search of a downed
Marine Corps' transport plane,
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for which the Air Force
was offering a reward.
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Instead of the transport plane, Arnold encountered a series
of strange lights,
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which as he approached them
appeared to be
saucer-shaped craft
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flying in formation
at incredible speed.
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Arnold knew the layout
of the mountains,
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and he knew the distances
between two peaks,
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which proved advantageous
because he saw them
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pass the beginning of one peak
and he knew the distance
between the other peak.
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So he was able to calculate
the speed from the first one
to reaching the second one.
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And he concluded that it was
about 1,200 miles an hour.
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Arnold provided a report of
the incident to the Air Force,
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who, he said, took it seriously.
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He also spoke to reporters and the subsequent news stories
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are thought to represent
the first-ever published use
of the term "flying saucer",
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based on Arnold's descriptions.
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However, the subsequent
Air Force report into
the incident was dismissive.
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Public awareness of
the flying saucer issue
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increased further in 1948,
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thanks to a highly publicised
incident over Kentucky.
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January 7th, 1948,
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the Godman Army Airfield
in Kentucky
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receives multiple reports
of some kind of unidentified
airborne object.
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The object remained in view
for over an hour
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and was witnessed by
numerous senior officers,
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none of whom were able
to identify it.
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Flight Commander
Captain Thomas Mantell
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was conducting a routine
training flight nearby
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and was ordered by the
control tower to investigate
the strange object.
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Mantell, who was flying
without an oxygen mask,
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climbed to 15,000 feet
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and radioed the tower that
he had the object in sight
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and was giving chase.
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That was the last report
he made.
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The wreckage of his plane
was later found
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90 miles south
of Godman Airfield.
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The story of an heroic Air Force pilot losing his life
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in pursuit of a flying saucer
caught the public imagination
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and was widely reported
by the press.
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But again, the Air Force report attempted to explain away
the entire incident
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with an astonishingly
unlikely conclusion.
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By the end of 1948,
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they looked over
about 1,000 reports
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during that 12-month period.
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And they came up with a report
called "The Estimate
of the Situation".
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"The Estimate of the Situation"
concluded that,
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almost certainly, some of
the sightings involved
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interplanetary craft,
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which was a term of the day
in 1948.
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And that was sent to a General,
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who was supposed to send it on
to the President.
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The General said, "No, we're not
having that as a conclusion."
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And basically, ordered
that all copies be burned.
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With the vast majority of
the incidents recorded
in Project Sign
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being dismissed as mistaken sightings of everyday phenomena,
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the project was closed down
by Air Force Chief of Staff
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General Hoyt Vandenberg,
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on the basis that it was
a waste of time and resources.
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They were genuinely good guys
trying to get to the truth
on Project Sign.
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They were replaced by a whole
new team of investigators,
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but with a clearly
different remit.
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And that remit was,
from '48 onwards,
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with Project Grudge,
which is to debunk everything.
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According to a 1999 report by
Gerald Haines of the National
Reconnaissance Office,
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the intention
of the debunking remit
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was to alleviate public
anxiety over UFOs.
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But a less charitable conclusion would be that sightings
were explained away
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in order to discourage public
curiosity about such events.
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In any case, in the only
official report
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ever produced by Project Grudge,
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hundreds of incidents
and sightings
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recorded throughout
the 1940s
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were dismissed in a variety
of creative ways.
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And the report's final
conclusion was that:
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By the end of the decade,
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Project Grudge was quietly
being wrapped up.
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In the early 1950s,
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two incidents, in particular,
reawakened
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the Air Force's interest
in UFOs.
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The first of these took place
in Lubbock, Texas,
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in August 1951,
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when a group of professors from the Texas Technical College
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witnessed a number of
mysterious lights
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moving in a U- or V-shaped
formation.
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Several days later,
the same group of men
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witnessed the lights again
and, separately,
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a student at the college claimed to have photographed the lights.
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The photographs, though never
confirmed to be genuine,
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were widely publicised,
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necessitating an official
Air Force response,
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which was to declare the mystery lights were most likely birds
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reflecting the glow from recently installed street lamps.
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The second incident, however,
was not so easy to dismiss.
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One of the biggest events
that took place
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in UFO history
was actually in 1952,
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when over two
successive weekends
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multiple UFOs were seen
visually and on radar
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over the capital,
Washington DC.
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It began on the 19th July, 1952,
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when a Washington DC
aircraft controller
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spotted numerous objects
on his radar
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that did not match any scheduled aircraft or flight plans.
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The readings were confirmed
by other operators,
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while witnesses saw
bright lights moving at
incredible speeds
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over the White House.
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Two jet fighters were scrambled to intercept the mystery
aircraft.
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But before the planes
could reach Washington,
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all of the objects had
vanished from the radar.
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As soon as they
were seen on radar,
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they despatched the pilots
to go up, vectored to the area,
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and then, mysteriously,
they would disappear.
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When the jets subsequently
left the area to refuel,
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the UFOs reappeared,
suggesting a controlled,
intelligent behaviour
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that could not be dismissed
as birds or errant
weather balloons.
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Over two successive weekends,
there were multiple incursions
over Washington DC
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and despite planes
being sent up,
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they could never find them.
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And yet,
the top radar guy said,
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you know, we had nine hours
on one particular weekend
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where these objects
were buzzing around.
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And he said,
these were real aircraft.
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These were machines. These were
not temperature inversions.
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These were not swamp gas.
These were not Venus.
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And he was convinced that there
was real objects being seen.
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Mysterious aircraft in the
vicinity of the White House
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was a potential threat
to national security
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and the subsequent investigation went all the way to the top.
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Whilst public statements
announced that the radar blips
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had been caused by
"temperature inversions",
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behind the scenes,
plans were being formulated
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for a new Air Force project
to investigate UFOs,
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named Project Blue Book.
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And this time, the CIA was
to become actively involved.
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The CIA were tasked
at one point
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to investigate UFOs,
but it was all done in secret.
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But their role was not to
investigate the validity
or truthfulness
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of UFO cases, it was really,
"How do we manage
public perception?"
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And what they did,
they commissioned
the Robertson Panel,
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the scientists, which in 1953,
that created, in a sense,
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the theme of the debunking
programme,
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which has been followed
ever since.
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In the 1999
Gerald Haines' report,
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he admits that the CIA
had been monitoring
the Air Force's investigations
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into UFOs since 1947.
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But a decision had been made to keep the intelligence agencies' interest in such matters
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a closely guarded secret.
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A classified CIA memo
from the time stated:
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The Central Intelligence Agency was established in 1947
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as a response to the growing
threat from the Soviet Union.
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But it could be argued
that it quickly developed
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a tendency towards
spying on and controlling
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the American public.
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This is evidenced
by the agency's attitude
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towards the supposed threat
represented by UFOs.
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Rather than assist in
the Air Force investigations,
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the CIA suggested a media
campaign of public debunking
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to "educate" the population
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and discourage them from
reporting UFO incidents.
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According to the Haines report, this was to include:
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Most people aren't aware
that the CIA commissioned
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a panel of top scientists
of the day.
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And they said, "How do we strip
the aura that the public have,
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the fascination the public
generally have for
this mystery?"
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And they concluded, after
two days of talking about this,
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that the best way to strip
the aura of flying saucers,
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which was the term of the day
in the '50s,
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was to debunk it
in all forms of media,
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ie, film, TV, radio, newspaper.
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And so, if you think about it,
that's what's happened.
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And America control the subject
of UFOs worldwide, historically.
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And so, literally,
anybody born after 1953,
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has lived in a genuine world
of a debunking programme.
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When the CIA did undertake
investigations,
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secrecy and outright deception
were standard operating
procedure.
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Once such incident outlined
in the Gerald Haines report
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took place in 1955.
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Two elderly sisters contacted
the Journal of Space Flight
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to say that they had intercepted a strange alien code
on their radio
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and had made a recording
of the broadcast.
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For some reason, this caught the attention of the CIA-backed
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Office of Scientific
Intelligence,
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and a field officer
named Dewelt Walker
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Was despatched to interview
the sisters and to make
a copy of the recording.
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Rather than admit to the CIA's
involvement in such
an investigation,
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Walker told the sisters that
he worked for the Air Force.
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The recording, when analysed,
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turned out to be nothing
more than some accidentally
intercepted Morse code
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and the incident was forgotten, until two years later,
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when an independent
UFO researcher
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decided to follow up
on the case
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and wrote to the Air Force asking for clarification around who had taken the recording
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and what had been done with it.
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The result was a lengthy
correspondence
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in which the Air Force
and the CIA
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attempted to shift the
responsibility to another
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unnamed government agency,
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before finally stating that
the recording had been
destroyed to save file space.
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This was not
an isolated incident
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and it may even be the case
that the celebrated
urban legend
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of the mysterious
"Men In Black",
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unnamed agents who are said
to appear out of nowhere
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in response to reports
of UFO sightings,
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might actually be down to CIA
agents acting suspiciously
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and refusing to
identify themselves.
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Over the next decade,
Project Blue Book
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increasingly became
a bureaucratic exercise
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in box ticking and debunking
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with the barest minimum of
investigative work undertaken.
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Any report of
a balloon-like object
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was recorded as a balloon.
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Any mysterious light in the sky was simply a star,
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the planet Venus or the Moon.
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Project Blue Book
is littered with cases.
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You could have four aviation
pilots all looking at
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a triangular object
in front of them,
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from four different
aircraft perspectives,
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and they'd say it was Venus
or temperature inversions.
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Reports and press releases
from the project
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began attracting criticism
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from UFO researchers
and reputable witnesses,
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who felt that their testimony
and professionalism
was being undermined.
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One such example came
in the summer of 1955.
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The Oklahoma Highway Patrol
reported that an Air Force
base near Oklahoma City
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had tracked up to four UFOs
simultaneously
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and that several of them
had descended very rapidly,
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from about 22,000 feet
to about 4,000 feet
in just a few seconds,
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which was well beyond
the capabilities of any
conventional aircraft.
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At the same time, eyewitnesses
saw multi-coloured lights
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and mysterious diamond-shaped
aerial objects.
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Project Blue Book concluded
that witnesses had
simply mistaken
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the planet Jupiter and bright
stars, such as Rigel
and Betelgeuse,
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for something more sinister.
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However, this report was
ridiculed when independent
experts pointed out
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that these stars and planets
are not visible from
Oklahoma in the summer.
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You would literally have
to be on the other side of
the planet to have seen them.
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Not to mention the fact
that the UFOs
were tracked on radar,
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which is unlikely to have
picked up a planet located
365 million miles from Earth.
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Similarly, in 1966,
two police officers
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spotted a disc-shaped, silvery
object with a bright light
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emanating from its underside in the sky above Ravenna, Ohio.
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The police officers gave chase,
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following the object at high
speed for over half an hour,
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with officers from several
other jurisdictions
joining in the pursuit.
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The event made national news
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and a report was duly submitted to Project Blue Book,
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where the official response
was that the officers must
have been, at various points,
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chasing a satellite, a star
and even the Moon.
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The officers, one of whom was a former Air Force pilot himself,
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angrily rejected this finding
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and even Ohio Congressman
J William Stanton
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commented on the incident.
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Prophetic words for
Project Blue Book.
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The three US Air Force projects,
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Sign, Grudge and Blue Book,
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basically, ran for 22 years
but by '69, it closed.
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Why did it close?
Well, that's quite simple.
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They found a mechanism
and a way to close it.
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And the mechanism was
to ask a university
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and it went to a guy
called Edward Condon
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and it became known
as the Condon Committee.
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And basically, they had
a two-year contract
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to look at all of the best
evidence, in theory,
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and make conclusions
to the US Air Force.
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Well, literally, on day one,
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Condon, who was a very
well-regarded physicist,
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he privately said,
this is just a paper exercise.
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We already know
it's a load of rubbish.
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As with Project Sign
and Project Grudge,
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the Condon Committee
delivered a final report,
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which was long on pages
but short on revelations.
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A panel chaired by Yale
astronomer Gerald M Clemence
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studied the report for
six weeks and concluded that:
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What you had, literally,
from the late '40s onwards,
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until it finished for 20 years,
was a debunking programme
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and we kind of know and always
suspected as UFO researchers
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that many of the best cases
never found their way
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into what should have been
this definitive project,
Project Blue Book.
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And we know that
because General Bolender
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00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,440
actually admitted in
the late '60s and early '70s
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that there was
a secret programme
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and the best cases didn't
go into Project Blue Book.
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So I think the general
conclusion is as we look back
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on the history of ufology
is that for many, many years
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the... Project Blue Book
and certainly Project Grudge
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were nothing but public
relations exercises
for the public.
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OK, Neil, we can see you
coming down the ladder now.
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It's one small step for man,
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one giant leap for mankind.
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In 1969, the very
same year that Project Blue
Book was disbanded,
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NASA achieved what many
had thought impossible,
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and some still think impossible,
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00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,600
sending Neil Armstrong,
Buzz Aldrin and
Michael Collins to the Moon
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and bringing them back alive.
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It was inevitable that
the validity of such
an extraordinary achievement
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would be called into question
and thousands of conspiracy
theorists around the world
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00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,480
soon began pointing out what
appear to be strange anomalies
400
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in the images and footage
presented to the public.
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Mismatched shadows and evidence of tampering in photographs,
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00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,800
together with questionable
physics and the lack of stars
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00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,800
in the footage
from the Moon's surface.
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00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,920
More intriguing still is
the staggering admission from
NASA in more recent years
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that much of the original
footage and telemetry data
from the Apollo Moon flights
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has apparently been "lost".
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00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,480
Critics immediately jumped
on this admission as
further evidence
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00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960
that NASA had something to hide.
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00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,480
If you think about it,
if we had the technology
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to get to the Moon in 1969,
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don't you find it a bit
bizarre, even for the most
ardent sceptic,
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to think, well, if we could
do it in '69, why haven't
we been back since '72?
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Which was the last mission.
It really doesn't make sense.
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And actually, you find,
in the world of conspiracy,
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that some people will say,
"Actually, the Moon missions
didn't actually happen."
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I think they did. I personally
think that the footage
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of Neil Armstrong
touching the ground.
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I don't think we had
the means to do that live.
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00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,640
And I think that was recreated
in a studio, but I personally
think we did go to the Moon.
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00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,520
But undoubtedly, there's
a lot of cover-ups.
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00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,800
[man] Oh, it's beautiful,
Mike, it really is.
422
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,480
So, were the Moon
landings really faked,
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or was NASA hiding something
even more extraordinary?
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There's a huge amount of data
that would say that, um,
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things were seen
en route to the Moon,
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00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,680
that things were seen possibly
on the Moon, the far side
of the Moon.
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00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,880
I mean, there's bits of
footage where, absolutely
unambiguous footage,
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00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000
where you see a lovely
colour shot of the Lander
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00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,440
coming back towards
the main craft and a UFO,
430
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160
a white sphere,
passes underneath.
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00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,760
UFO researchers have scoured
the photographs and footage
from NASA missions
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00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,040
looking for unusual
or unexplained objects,
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00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,360
and even NASA personnel
have spoken out on the issue.
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00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Apollo 14 astronaut
Edgar Mitchell
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00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,600
stated that he believed 90%
of reported UFO sightings
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00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,160
were the result
of alien activity.
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00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,800
And that he personally was
aware of several UFO visits
during his career,
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00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,480
and that each one
had been covered up.
439
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,280
In interviews, he spoke of
a secret cabal in the government
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00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,280
that was studying alien bodies
recovered at Roswell.
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00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,440
NASA issued a terse statement
in response:
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00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,400
Mitchell later
retracted the claims,
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00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,160
stating they were
just speculation.
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00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,800
Similarly, celebrated
Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin
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00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,440
once claimed to have seen
strange lights
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00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,560
flying alongside the astronauts en route to the Moon.
447
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,720
But later stated that his words had been taken out of context
and misunderstood.
448
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,600
The idea of secret UFO bases
on the Moon
449
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,160
stemmed from claims that
private ham radio operators
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00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,760
had managed to record
secret off-air transmissions
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00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,600
between the Apollo 11 crew
and Houston from
the surface of the Moon.
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00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,040
Allegedly, on Apollo 11,
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00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,080
Neil Armstrong went over
the air to say that UFOs
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are parked up, as it were,
on a crater rim
looking down at them.
455
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,720
These craters
are huge, enormous!
456
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,880
-Oh, my God!
457
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,920
You wouldn't believe it!
458
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,040
I'm telling you, there are
other spacecraft out there,
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00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,240
lined up on the far side
of the crater edge.
460
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,400
They're on the Moon
watching us.
461
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,960
462
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,640
The actual
recordings have never emerged,
463
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,120
but the idea of aliens
on the Moon took hold,
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00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:55,480
with hundreds of researchers
scouring images
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00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,680
of the Moon's surface
for signs of hidden bases,
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00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,040
with some claiming that
the clearest images
were deleted by NASA.
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00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,440
NASA denies this.
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00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,640
Do I think that there's
a potential cover-up?
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00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,440
Yeah, I think there's evidence
to say that there's a secret
space programme,
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but it's to what extent.
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00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,280
I certainly don't think
it's fleets and fleets
472
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,000
of huge battlecruisers
in space, like
a "Star Trek" scenario.
473
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,960
But I do think we probably
have done a lot of other
stuff in space,
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missions that
nobody's aware of.
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00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:44,320
And if you think that
some kind of contact has
been made - ET on the Moon -
476
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,760
I think that's
entirely conceivable,
477
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,360
because I really don't
understand why we've
not been back.
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479
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The Rendlesham Forest incident
is considered by UFO researchers
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to be second only to Roswell
in terms of its significance.
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Britain's most famous case
is what's called the
Rendlesham Forest incident.
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And it's regarded now
in UFO historical terms
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as being up there with Roswell,
that's how good the case is.
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And some people would say
that in many ways it's
a better case than Roswell
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because it contains
more evidence.
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It began on December 26th, 1980,
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at RAF Woodbridge, a military
base in southern England,
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which was, at the time, being used by the American Air Force.
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A security patrol near
the east gate of the base
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saw strange lights in the sky,
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which appeared to be
descending into nearby
Rendlesham Forest.
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The next day, servicemen
searching the forest
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found three small impressions
on the ground
in a triangular pattern,
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as well as burn marks and
broken branches on nearby trees.
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All indications that some
kind of triangular craft
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had made a landing
in the forest.
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Even more dramatically,
the following night,
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a small team led by
the deputy base commander,
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Lieutenant Colonel
Charles Halt,
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went out to the site
with a Geiger counter
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to check for radioactivity.
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Halt was recording the event
using a small Dictaphone
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when something
incredible happened.
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3:05. We see
strange strobe-like flashes
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to the... rather sporadic,
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but there's definitely
something, some kind
of phenomenon.
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3:05. At about ten degrees,
horizon, directly north,
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we've got two strange objects,
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er, half-moon shape, dancing
about with coloured
lights on 'em.
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At, er, guess to be about five
to ten miles out, maybe less.
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This was an audio tape that
he did into a little Dictaphone
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and he made a series
of audio commentaries,
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little updates on it
over four or five hours.
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So he'll give a regular update.
He'll say, "We're now
crossing the creek.
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"We can see an object,"
blah, blah, blah.
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But one of the exciting
things that happened
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is that at one point
they see an object
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move towards them, stop
above their heads at 1,000 feet
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and then shine a light
akin to a laser beam
down at their feet.
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Watch. straight ahead, off my flashlight there, sir.
There it is.
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I see it, too.
What is it?
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-We don't know, sir.
-Can I get some of those?
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It's a strange,
small red light.
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Looks to be maybe a quarter to
a half mile, maybe further out.
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There is no doubt about it,
there's some type of strange
flashing red light ahead.
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-Sir, it's yellow.
-I saw a yellow
tinge in it, too. Weird!
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-Pieces of it are shooting off! -At eleven o'clock.
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There is no doubt about it.
This is weird!
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Two weeks
after the incident,
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Lieutenant Halt
submitted a memorandum
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recording what he had witnessed,
which was released in 1983,
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under the Freedom
of Information Act.
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But at the time, there
didn't seem to be any will
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to investigate
the incident further.
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He put in a one-page memo
of three paragraphs
that he sent to the MOD
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and, supposedly, the MOD said,
"Ah, there's nowt to this."
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Even though it mentioned
in the first paragraph
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that there was a landed
triangular craft of
unknown origin.
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But interest in the case
was reignited
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when the story made its way
into the press in 1983.
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The News of the World did
a big full-page "UFOs land
in Suffolk, it's official".
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The result was a media
debunking that rivalled
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those seen in Project
Blue Book years earlier.
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The moving light was identified as being the beam from
a nearby lighthouse.
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And the three star-like objects were just that - stars.
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Some of the explanations
given by the sceptics are...
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For example... I mean, this is
UFOs seen over multiple nights.
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This isn't just one UFO,
it's multiple and 14 or 15
separate incidents
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over several consecutive nights.
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And yet they would say
they were all done
by a lighthouse!
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To counter the growing
scepticism about the event,
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in 2010, the now retired
Colonel Halt
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signed a notarised affidavit
clarifying what he saw.
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Most importantly,
this new affidavit destroys
the lighthouse theory.
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Whilst critics have pointed
out that Halt's description
of the lights in the affidavit
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does not match the one
he gave in his original memo,
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his dramatic cassette recording,
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the authenticity of which
is not in dispute,
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remains as
persuasive evidence
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that something extraordinary
happened in Rendlesham
Forest that night.
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Here he comes from
the south. He's coming
toward us now.
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Now we're observing what
appears to be a beam
coming down to the ground.
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This is unreal.
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It's a very complicated case
but, suffice to say,
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that what you have is
US Air Force police officers
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guarding nuclear weapons,
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and, basically,
over several nights,
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they have various encounters
with various shaped UFOs.
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And I'm involved and
I've been for the last
two and a half years
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in researching the case
from the ground up,
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by going through everything
back to day one.
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And we've uncovered
a lot of new evidence.
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Of all the cases
reported worldwide,
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95% have a mundane explanation,
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which is atmospherics,
pure misidentification, etc.
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Just plain mistakes,
but then we're always left
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with a residue of 5% of cases
and that gets the UFO
researchers interested.
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And then they delve down
into those cases.
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And then you lose another 2%
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because they're identified
after investigation.
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But you will always have this
residue of, say, about 2% to 3%.
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Those cases are the ones
that you should look at.
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In spite of the best efforts
of the CIA and other
authorities,
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by the 1990s, public interest in UFOs was at an all-time high
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and the formally debunked
Roswell incident
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once again came to the attention of UFO researchers.
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They interviewed hundreds
of people who claimed
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to have had a connection
with the events of 1947.
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Their conclusions were that
at least one alien spacecraft
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crashed near Roswell.
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Alien bodies had been recovered
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and a government cover-up of
the incident had taken place.
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Such was the popularity
of the story
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and the allegations that
something had been covered up,
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the Air Force issued
a 1994 report,
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along with
this publicity film,
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which aimed to put
the controversy to rest.
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The report revealed
for the first time,
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that the wreckage found
on the Brazel Ranch was
not from a weather balloon,
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but was, in fact, from an
experimental high-altitude
listening device
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that was being flown by the Air Force as part of a programme
named Project Mogul
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and was designed to detect
far-off nuclear detonations,
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part of the Cold War arms race
with the Soviet Union.
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The report went on to suggest
that people who claim
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to have seen alien bodies
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had most likely been witness
to nothing more than mannequins
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or crash-test dummies, which
were frequently employed by
the Air Force
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when testing experimental
aircraft.
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But for many UFO researchers,
the Project Mogul explanation
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is barely any more credible
than General Ramey's
weather balloon story.
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It was a big mistake and made
it worse for the Air Force,
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because they found out that
Project Mogul didn't operate
until the mid-'50s,
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when this occurred in 1947,
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and it used human six-foot
sized plastic objects that
were dropped from planes.
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Well, when we talk about
the bodies that were
reported and recovered,
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the aliens, allegedly,
recovered, they were
three feet in height.
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Three or four feet high,
so looked nothing like
six-foot, plastic dummies.
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So, again, that made their
stance on an explanation
as untenable really.
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Researchers also point to the
immediate reaction of the men
at Roswell Airbase,
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particularly Major Jesse Marcel.
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Marcel was not only an Air Force intelligence officer,
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he was part of the elite
509th Bomb Group,
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which was responsible
for the deployment of
the Hiroshima atomic bomb.
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The idea that Marcel couldn't
recognise and identify
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the wreckage of an Air Force
high-altitude balloon,
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even an experimental
Project Mogul balloon,
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and the breadth and scope
of the subsequent cover-up,
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suggests that whatever
was being hidden,
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it wasn't a simple balloon-
mounted listening device.
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It's created an ongoing debate
for many, many years.
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And I have no doubt
that a UFO crashed.
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And I have no doubt that
certain pieces of material
were recovered.
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As we would do. If a UFO crashed
outside my window now,
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the police would get called,
it would get cordoned off,
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the military would turn up,
it would be carted off and
you'd never see it again.
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Marcel himself maintained
for the rest of his life
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that what he saw
at the Brazel Ranch
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was something not of this Earth.
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The general rule is, if anybody
knows anything about aviation,
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is that even stealth aircraft,
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for example the F-117,
a little back-wing plane...
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Well, that was first flown
in about '75
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and yet it didn't become
public until 1991 with
the first Gulf War.
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So for 16 years that was
in stealth, in secret mode,
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while it was being developed
and it's roughly 15 to 20 years
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before it makes
mainstream confirmation.
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Well, you've got a conundrum
there because if these objects
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are flying around
since the 1940s,
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well, OK, then it's a super
secret, man-made object.
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The general rule is 20 years.
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The fact that it hasn't come out
in 70 years says it's not ours.
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The 1990s were also
an interesting time for NASA,
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with frequent
Space Shuttle missions
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providing researchers with
new footage to analyse.
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There is one particular sequence
that I'm very impressed with
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as a researcher, which is
called the tether sequence.
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Again, we're
just moving into sunrise.
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81 nautical miles now
from Columbia.
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On February 25th, 1996,
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the Space Shuttle Columbia
was attempting to deploy
a tethered satellite system,
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designed to investigate new
sources of spacecraft power
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and ways to study Earth's
upper atmosphere.
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But five hours
into the experiment,
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the tether broke and
the satellite floated away.
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And a video recording of
the event appeared to show
something extraordinary.
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Dozens of unidentified objects
floating in space
around the tether.
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Franklin,
we see a long line,
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a couple of star-like things
and a lot of things
swimming in the foreground.
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Can you describe
what you're seeing?
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These things are flashing,
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they seem to self-illuminated,
they pass underneath it.
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There's literally hundreds
of these things
all swarming around it.
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The astronauts commenting
on what they were recording,
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made no particular mention
of the strange phenomena,
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which were later dismissed
as space debris and
ice particles.
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And they're trying to say,
"Oh, this is ice particles."
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But a lot of research has
been done into that footage
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and you can actually track
each of the objects.
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And so objects will
suddenly appear.
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They'll go around it and
then come back on themselves.
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They'll stop and then they'll
go left or stop and go right.
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So they, you know, they seem
to under intelligent control.
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There's a long line.
It's, er, it's the tether.
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And there's a little bit of
debris that... that kinda
flies with us.
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Now, with the International
Space Station cameras
operating 24/7,
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providing rolling coverage
of outer space,
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researchers are
also working 24/7
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to examine the footage
for anomalies,
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in the belief that it can
only be a matter of time
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before something is captured
that cannot be debunked.
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NASA itself comes under
suspicion as being possibly
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a front, a public
relations exercise.
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And there are some, you know,
really kinda geeky people
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who spend their lifetime
going through archives
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of thousands of
Apollo photographs
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to find a couple of
anomaly photographs
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which can't be explained and
we owe them a debt of gratitude,
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because most people
wouldn't do that.
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But they do find
some very good stuff
that can't be explained.
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And similarly, there are people
who study the space footage
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and there are anomalies,
but a lot of people suspect
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that the best evidence of things
in space has been hidden away.
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There is no two ways about it,
if you study the subject,
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if you were to intelligently
look at the very,
very best cases,
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you would thing these
would be front-page news.
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00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,080
And the fact that they're not
means that there has to be
710
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,280
a reason why they're not
on the front page.
711
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,080
Now, I think, in a strange way,
President Trump
712
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,360
has kind of legitimised
the term "fake news".
713
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,600
And that wasn't really
recognised in the mainstream.
714
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:47,640
But now we have fake news
and "disinformation"
715
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,160
is now a real watch word
in modern society.
716
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,760
Well, it wasn't for many
decades, but now it's
an accepted thing
717
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,440
and, believe me, there is
so much disinformation
718
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,760
on the UFO subject.
And I always say this,
719
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,560
that if the public really
were to be presented
with the best evidence,
720
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,360
that 3% of best cases,
there would be no doubt
721
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,760
the ET phenomenon was real.
722
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,320
Despite the earlier claim that
there had been no serious
government interest
723
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,880
in the UFO phenomenon since the closure
of Project Blue Book in 1969,
724
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:28,000
in December 2017, there was
a surprise admission from
the Pentagon.
725
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,040
In fact, a secret study
into UFOs entitled
726
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,640
"The Advanced Aviation Threat
Identification Programme"
727
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,520
had been operating
for the last five years
728
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,880
with a total budget
of over $20 million.
729
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,360
I think the Pentagon
admissions in 2017
730
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,800
really did open
the Pandora's box,
731
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,520
because it can only lead
one way.
732
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,000
You can't actually put that
information back now.
733
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,360
The programme was
initiated in 2007,
734
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,560
by then Senate majority
leader Harry Reid,
735
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,240
who in 2009, wrote a letter
to the Deputy Secretary
of Defense,
736
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,320
which contained some
intriguing sentences.
737
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,440
The announcement coincided
with the release by
the New York Times
738
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,840
of leaked UFO footage,
recorded by US Naval pilots,
739
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,520
which was later released
officially by the Pentagon
in 2020.
740
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,720
There's a whole fleet
of them. Look on my SA.
741
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,800
My gosh!
742
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,920
They're all going against
the wind. The wind's
120 knots to the west.
743
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,400
Look at that thing, dude!
744
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,440
There's been so much
frustration and lies told.
745
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,960
However, in 16th December, 2017,
746
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,720
the Pentagon admitted that
these things were real
747
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,560
and they didn't know what
they were flying around
the airspace.
748
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,680
And so that changed
the goalposts.
749
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,640
And so now, we're actually
I think definitely on a path
750
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,280
to, um... to...
751
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,960
Within the next three to five
years I think significant events
752
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,960
will push the door open.
753
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,760
Together with the release
of the footage,
754
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,680
came admissions from the
Office of Naval Intelligence
755
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,800
that they were still holding
highly classified documents
756
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,720
pertaining to UFOs.
757
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,000
An official statement
from the Navy read:
758
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,200
But with modern
image-sharing technology
759
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,320
and instant access
to data of all kinds,
760
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,840
it's seems the time of
governments being able to
761
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,680
restrict access to information
is coming to an end,
762
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,120
despite the best efforts
of the mainstream media
763
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:28,840
and the California tech giants.
764
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,640
UFO researchers yearn for
what's called "Disclosure"
with a big D.
765
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,320
When it's on every TV channel
that there's this open
admission that there's contact.
766
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,000
That ET is real
and it's been visiting us.
767
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,600
That's what we're all
kind of working towards
768
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,520
and we've been working towards
that for the last 70 years
769
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,360
in this, what was classed as,
a modern era.
770
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,160
I think we are moving
in the right direction
771
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,120
and I think with technology and
the world that we live in now,
772
00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:01,040
of mass media, and the way
we can instantly get stuff
around the world,
773
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:06,560
I think it's all looking good
for a major announcement
in the next few years.
774
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,760
One thing that comes from
Disclosure with a big D
775
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,280
is that the world will need to
finally be truthful.
776
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,360
So if that happens,
777
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,720
then the world will be
in a very different place
778
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,920
and, in terms of history,
the history of the 20th century
779
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,800
and the first part
of the 21st century
780
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,840
will have to be rewritten.
781
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,480
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