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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:24,886 --> 00:00:29,891 [car engines hum] [crowd murmurs] 4 00:00:32,446 --> 00:00:35,207 - The very first year that we did this, 5 00:00:35,242 --> 00:00:36,622 these people were walkin' by us 6 00:00:36,657 --> 00:00:37,899 and we were right on the other corner 7 00:00:37,934 --> 00:00:41,006 and they'd stumble out after having had some drinks 8 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:43,388 and having a good time and they would always be like, 9 00:00:43,422 --> 00:00:44,561 "What are you guys doing, man? 10 00:00:44,596 --> 00:00:46,287 Why are you campin' out? 11 00:00:46,322 --> 00:00:47,530 This is weird, like what's goin' on?" 12 00:00:47,564 --> 00:00:49,497 We're like, "Oh, you know, Record Store Day." 13 00:00:49,532 --> 00:00:51,051 "Records, people still buy those?" 14 00:00:51,085 --> 00:00:52,707 "Yeah, yeah, yeah, they do, they do." 15 00:00:52,742 --> 00:00:54,640 "Oh, so which one are you looking for?" 16 00:00:55,883 --> 00:00:57,540 - Traditionally, no one says what they want 17 00:00:57,574 --> 00:00:58,886 because they're afraid 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,543 the people in front of 'em will get to it. 19 00:01:00,577 --> 00:01:01,889 - [Crowd Member] Strawberry Shortcake. 20 00:01:01,923 --> 00:01:03,477 [laughs] - [Crowd Member] Yeah. 21 00:01:03,511 --> 00:01:04,857 - What are you here for? - Weezer. 22 00:01:04,892 --> 00:01:06,756 - And she only likes the colorful albums, 23 00:01:06,790 --> 00:01:09,621 so basically anything, Portugal. The Man. 24 00:01:11,209 --> 00:01:13,694 - Record Store Day is my busiest day of the year. 25 00:01:13,728 --> 00:01:15,523 It's bigger than my Christmas, 26 00:01:15,558 --> 00:01:16,869 it's bigger than my Black Friday. 27 00:01:16,904 --> 00:01:19,320 It's all of those days rolled together. 28 00:01:19,355 --> 00:01:21,943 Well we're gonna see more people in one day 29 00:01:21,978 --> 00:01:24,670 than we normally see in two months time. 30 00:01:24,705 --> 00:01:26,776 Hey, hey, can you guys hear me? 31 00:01:26,810 --> 00:01:28,053 We have three stations. 32 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:31,367 So the first station is A through G. 33 00:01:31,401 --> 00:01:34,577 The second station is halfway through the G's through P. 34 00:01:34,611 --> 00:01:36,717 The third is P to Z 35 00:01:36,751 --> 00:01:40,583 and soundtracks are under the name of the movie. 36 00:01:40,617 --> 00:01:42,585 I know you're really all here for "The Crow" 37 00:01:42,619 --> 00:01:44,759 and it's under C. [laughs] 38 00:01:44,794 --> 00:01:47,176 So it's one title per customer, 39 00:01:47,210 --> 00:01:49,557 but as many titles as you want. 40 00:01:49,592 --> 00:01:51,594 - One of my friends brought me here a couple years ago 41 00:01:51,628 --> 00:01:53,596 and I saw a couple albums that I knew that I liked 42 00:01:53,630 --> 00:01:55,115 and then bought a couple of those 43 00:01:55,149 --> 00:01:57,151 and then it just kinda went from there. 44 00:01:57,186 --> 00:01:59,395 I just love that it's kind of a big community 45 00:01:59,429 --> 00:02:00,430 that involves a lot of people. 46 00:02:00,465 --> 00:02:01,328 I really like that. 47 00:02:02,743 --> 00:02:04,572 - These are actually all of my friends 48 00:02:04,607 --> 00:02:05,642 that I only see on Record Store Days. 49 00:02:05,677 --> 00:02:07,610 Like there's faces back here that I recognize 50 00:02:07,644 --> 00:02:08,852 and all these guys, the same thing. 51 00:02:08,887 --> 00:02:10,026 - I don't even know this guy's name, 52 00:02:10,060 --> 00:02:11,441 but I see him every year. 53 00:02:12,615 --> 00:02:14,099 - I'm world famous. - Yeah, yeah. 54 00:02:15,687 --> 00:02:17,758 - [Judy] Okay so this is the fifth one 55 00:02:17,792 --> 00:02:19,967 and this is gonna be the biggest one, right? 56 00:02:20,001 --> 00:02:21,175 And what's the goal? 57 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:22,142 - [Crew] Quack. 58 00:02:22,176 --> 00:02:23,246 - Quick- - Quality- 59 00:02:23,281 --> 00:02:24,178 - Authentic connections. [laughs] 60 00:02:24,213 --> 00:02:26,215 Let's make friends, let's do it. 61 00:02:26,249 --> 00:02:28,700 [upbeat music] 62 00:02:30,184 --> 00:02:34,740 - [Crew] Welcome, go this direction. 63 00:02:34,775 --> 00:02:36,639 - Br through Gs. 64 00:02:36,673 --> 00:02:37,778 Br 52. 65 00:02:37,812 --> 00:02:41,851 ♪ Rise up 66 00:02:41,885 --> 00:02:46,890 ♪ Don't be afraid 67 00:02:47,753 --> 00:02:50,584 ♪ Stand up for your sister 68 00:02:50,618 --> 00:02:53,311 ♪ Gotta drop this charade 69 00:02:53,345 --> 00:02:55,313 [crowd murmurs] 70 00:02:55,347 --> 00:02:56,624 - I'm really excited, 71 00:02:56,659 --> 00:02:58,212 'cause they said it's going like hotcakes. 72 00:02:58,247 --> 00:03:01,457 Right here we go. [laughs] 73 00:03:01,491 --> 00:03:04,977 ♪ Let your heart be your guide 74 00:03:05,012 --> 00:03:07,670 ♪ Your strength can push us through ♪ 75 00:03:07,704 --> 00:03:09,948 - It's really weird because 76 00:03:09,982 --> 00:03:12,330 even my parents and stuff like that are just like 77 00:03:12,364 --> 00:03:13,641 "Why are you getting that stuff? 78 00:03:13,676 --> 00:03:15,471 You have all this stuff on your phone." 79 00:03:15,505 --> 00:03:17,990 I said, "I don't know, it's really cool." 80 00:03:18,025 --> 00:03:19,716 - We are a record family, absolutely. 81 00:03:19,751 --> 00:03:21,960 A very musical household. 82 00:03:21,994 --> 00:03:26,171 - I like this one because it has Minnie Mouse on it. 83 00:03:26,206 --> 00:03:28,035 - It reminds me of when I was little, 84 00:03:28,069 --> 00:03:29,657 like wakin' up in the morning, 85 00:03:29,692 --> 00:03:31,176 hearing like the little scratch 86 00:03:31,211 --> 00:03:33,385 and then some soulful music playing. 87 00:03:33,420 --> 00:03:35,732 And so it kind of takes me back to that vibe. 88 00:03:36,940 --> 00:03:40,427 - A pretty good haul today. - You think? [laughs] 89 00:03:41,738 --> 00:03:43,671 - [Customer] It was a good Record Store Day today. 90 00:03:43,706 --> 00:03:46,674 - I got Fleetwood Mac, Soccer Mommy and Courtney Barnett. 91 00:03:46,709 --> 00:03:49,712 - [Customer] We got a Gorillaz album, Courtney Barnett 92 00:03:50,851 --> 00:03:52,370 and a Weezer record she was after. 93 00:03:53,371 --> 00:03:54,717 [bag crinkles] 94 00:03:54,751 --> 00:03:55,890 - This was a used record. 95 00:03:55,925 --> 00:03:57,340 I've seen these guys five or six times. 96 00:03:57,375 --> 00:03:59,756 Roxy Music, Sublime. 97 00:04:01,275 --> 00:04:02,725 There's another Tangerine Dream 98 00:04:03,898 --> 00:04:07,695 and then the one I really wanted. 99 00:04:07,730 --> 00:04:10,146 ♪ Let's move toward a brighter day ♪ 100 00:04:10,180 --> 00:04:12,217 ♪ Together we can find a better way ♪ 101 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:14,599 ♪ Rise up 102 00:04:16,808 --> 00:04:20,501 [crowd applauds] 103 00:04:20,536 --> 00:04:22,710 - [Crowd Member] All right. 104 00:04:22,745 --> 00:04:23,746 - Vinyl, 105 00:04:23,780 --> 00:04:27,612 it's the only way to make sound solid, 106 00:04:27,646 --> 00:04:31,719 like a solid format, like to bring it into our dimension. 107 00:04:31,754 --> 00:04:35,309 Otherwise it's just invisible vibrations in the air. 108 00:04:35,344 --> 00:04:36,517 - Breaking the seal, 109 00:04:36,552 --> 00:04:39,382 like opening the record for the first time 110 00:04:39,417 --> 00:04:42,420 and putting it on your turntable for the first time 111 00:04:42,454 --> 00:04:45,077 and dropping the needle on the record. 112 00:04:45,112 --> 00:04:47,701 - I love opening the Jethro Tull "Stand Up" gatefold 113 00:04:47,735 --> 00:04:48,805 which has the pop up. 114 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:50,151 That always makes me smile. 115 00:04:50,186 --> 00:04:53,431 - I really like that you can display a vinyl record. 116 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:55,916 I like looking at the art. 117 00:04:55,950 --> 00:04:58,608 I like being able to touch it and hug it 118 00:04:58,643 --> 00:04:59,989 and hold it if I want to. 119 00:05:00,023 --> 00:05:02,543 - You have this physical, 120 00:05:02,578 --> 00:05:05,374 rather substantial thing you're holding 121 00:05:05,408 --> 00:05:07,479 and that thing promises, you know, 122 00:05:07,514 --> 00:05:10,448 a portal into a moment in time 123 00:05:10,482 --> 00:05:12,173 where your favorite band played this song. 124 00:05:12,208 --> 00:05:14,866 - Artists care about vinyl a lot. 125 00:05:16,143 --> 00:05:18,421 Many artists will say, "That's the most important format 126 00:05:18,456 --> 00:05:19,974 with which I present my art." 127 00:05:20,009 --> 00:05:24,462 - We've always released our music on vinyl 128 00:05:24,496 --> 00:05:27,292 and there is never any thought of doing it any differently 129 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:29,087 just because that's what we're into 130 00:05:29,121 --> 00:05:30,537 and I think that's what the people 131 00:05:30,571 --> 00:05:33,747 who buy our music are into. 132 00:05:33,781 --> 00:05:37,337 - It elevates the totality of an album 133 00:05:38,545 --> 00:05:40,478 in a way that I think is kind of beautiful 134 00:05:40,512 --> 00:05:42,238 if you're in love with an album. 135 00:05:42,272 --> 00:05:44,309 - Look at this, it's so pretty. 136 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:47,139 It's got massive artwork that's meant to be looked at, 137 00:05:47,174 --> 00:05:50,833 it's meant to be touched and it [sniffs] smells good. 138 00:05:50,867 --> 00:05:52,835 - When I was in high school I had a huge crush on a guy 139 00:05:52,869 --> 00:05:54,733 and I boxed up some of my records 140 00:05:54,768 --> 00:05:56,908 and I took a turntable over to his house 141 00:05:56,942 --> 00:05:59,048 and I played him vinyl for the first time. 142 00:05:59,082 --> 00:06:03,121 And that's pretty powerful, that worked really well. 143 00:06:03,155 --> 00:06:04,950 - Every record can have its own unique sound 144 00:06:04,985 --> 00:06:07,367 depending on who has owned it, who's touched it, 145 00:06:07,401 --> 00:06:09,092 where it's been. 146 00:06:09,127 --> 00:06:10,818 That's really important to me. 147 00:06:10,853 --> 00:06:15,029 - Sometimes when I want to listen to vinyl just by myself, 148 00:06:15,064 --> 00:06:19,827 I just go right here and just dance. 149 00:06:19,862 --> 00:06:21,691 - You're listening to the whole album, 150 00:06:21,726 --> 00:06:24,176 not just one song that you like. 151 00:06:24,211 --> 00:06:26,282 You can't fast forward. 152 00:06:26,316 --> 00:06:28,249 - Boggles the mind, it's just not the same experience. 153 00:06:28,284 --> 00:06:30,217 I play records for people in here 154 00:06:30,251 --> 00:06:32,426 and it's like the first time they've ever heard the record, 155 00:06:32,461 --> 00:06:34,083 it could be their favorite record. 156 00:06:34,117 --> 00:06:35,947 - I mean that's probably the first thing humans ever did 157 00:06:35,981 --> 00:06:37,880 was to tell stories 158 00:06:37,914 --> 00:06:39,260 and while the way 159 00:06:39,295 --> 00:06:42,298 that we tell them has changed over millennia, 160 00:06:43,851 --> 00:06:46,751 the desire to do it has not. 161 00:06:48,062 --> 00:06:51,652 Personally, I like telling stories through records. 162 00:06:51,687 --> 00:06:54,759 [lighthearted music] 163 00:06:57,727 --> 00:06:59,729 [people murmuring] 164 00:06:59,764 --> 00:07:02,870 - Before I met you, when I was living in Indianapolis, 165 00:07:02,905 --> 00:07:05,355 I got my first record player on my own. 166 00:07:05,390 --> 00:07:07,116 It was pretty cheap, 167 00:07:07,150 --> 00:07:11,569 but I got it because I was just at a point in my life 168 00:07:11,603 --> 00:07:13,985 where I was like, "I want to do what I want do 169 00:07:14,019 --> 00:07:15,676 and I think I would like records," 170 00:07:15,711 --> 00:07:18,092 and I think I would like certain things 171 00:07:18,127 --> 00:07:19,473 that I think I've been avoiding 172 00:07:19,508 --> 00:07:21,993 because I didn't want to be seen a certain way 173 00:07:22,027 --> 00:07:25,410 or looking like I was trying to hop onto some trend, 174 00:07:25,445 --> 00:07:26,929 especially a white people trend. 175 00:07:26,963 --> 00:07:29,449 Like I'm sorry, like it's not that there's anything wrong 176 00:07:29,483 --> 00:07:30,967 with being white, 177 00:07:31,002 --> 00:07:33,073 it's just that I'm not trying to be a black person 178 00:07:33,107 --> 00:07:34,764 that hops onto white people's trends. 179 00:07:34,799 --> 00:07:36,145 That's how you end up, 180 00:07:36,179 --> 00:07:40,149 you know, being a black white supremacist, which I'm not. 181 00:07:40,183 --> 00:07:41,875 So-- 182 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:42,772 A lot of these are new 183 00:07:42,807 --> 00:07:45,050 Like this Mavis Staples is new. 184 00:07:45,085 --> 00:07:47,397 Kelly just got that, "Only for the Lonely." 185 00:07:47,432 --> 00:07:50,953 My husband loves soul music, but please understand 186 00:07:50,987 --> 00:07:53,265 that when he talks about loving soul music, 187 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:55,509 he's really talking about the music 188 00:07:55,544 --> 00:08:00,514 of like a middle-aged, black divorcee in the late-'90's. 189 00:08:01,757 --> 00:08:04,932 Like that's what he's listening to. 190 00:08:04,967 --> 00:08:08,418 We were both in the English department and we were writers. 191 00:08:08,453 --> 00:08:09,937 I think I kind of knew 192 00:08:09,972 --> 00:08:13,631 that Kelly was into older music after that 193 00:08:13,665 --> 00:08:16,703 because when we went on our first date 194 00:08:18,946 --> 00:08:21,501 [laughs] and we went four wheeling on our first date, 195 00:08:21,535 --> 00:08:24,055 he took me four wheeling in the mud. 196 00:08:24,089 --> 00:08:25,574 - She didn't know it was a date. 197 00:08:25,608 --> 00:08:27,541 - I didn't know it was a date, that is true. 198 00:08:27,576 --> 00:08:29,785 And we got in his truck 199 00:08:29,819 --> 00:08:32,512 and we were on our way back to campus 200 00:08:32,546 --> 00:08:35,169 from like this place he had taken me out to 201 00:08:35,204 --> 00:08:38,518 and "Brown-Eyed Girl" came on the radio. 202 00:08:38,552 --> 00:08:41,382 You know he's lookin' at the road like nothin's happenin', 203 00:08:41,417 --> 00:08:45,179 but he slips his hand over and puts it on top of my hand 204 00:08:45,214 --> 00:08:47,216 and I was 205 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:51,427 both like rollin' my eyes and completely charmed. 206 00:08:51,461 --> 00:08:53,981 'Cause I was like, I'm black, of course I have brown eyes, 207 00:08:54,016 --> 00:08:56,984 but also like this is really cute and I love this song 208 00:08:57,019 --> 00:08:59,711 and I really like that he's listening to the song 209 00:08:59,746 --> 00:09:02,058 and like he's playin' the song right now. 210 00:09:02,093 --> 00:09:03,197 - Rolling your eyes and charmed 211 00:09:03,232 --> 00:09:06,407 is probably a common experience. 212 00:09:06,442 --> 00:09:08,030 - It's a common experience, 213 00:09:08,064 --> 00:09:09,618 [Kelly laughs] rolling my eyes 214 00:09:09,652 --> 00:09:13,173 and being also completely charmed, yeah. [sighs] 215 00:09:15,209 --> 00:09:18,040 - Listen, there's something sacred about the whole thing. 216 00:09:18,074 --> 00:09:19,524 12 by 12, 217 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,008 33 rpm, 218 00:09:21,043 --> 00:09:25,737 the visual idea of this thing spinning for 18 minutes. 219 00:09:25,772 --> 00:09:29,016 The idea that a needle, first off, it's a diamond. 220 00:09:29,051 --> 00:09:30,742 I mean it's kids, all the fuckin', 221 00:09:30,777 --> 00:09:32,848 this is like some Zork shit, it's sacred, 222 00:09:32,882 --> 00:09:33,642 you know what I mean? 223 00:09:33,676 --> 00:09:35,091 Like there's a diamond 224 00:09:35,126 --> 00:09:37,715 that's like bumping in between this canyon. 225 00:09:37,749 --> 00:09:40,200 [recording crackles] 226 00:09:40,234 --> 00:09:42,789 [frantic music] 227 00:09:44,204 --> 00:09:48,173 - It's such a horrifying-complex point of consternation 228 00:09:48,208 --> 00:09:51,211 to even think about a stupid little, you know, 229 00:09:51,245 --> 00:09:53,731 stylus moving through this groove. 230 00:09:53,765 --> 00:09:55,560 I mean I'm learning new things every day 231 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:57,217 and I've been doing this for 18 years. 232 00:09:57,251 --> 00:09:59,115 It's actually happened that's someone has walked in before 233 00:09:59,150 --> 00:10:00,738 and, because I'm getting to the point 234 00:10:00,772 --> 00:10:02,843 where I'm old enough now and they're young enough now, 235 00:10:02,878 --> 00:10:05,087 so that someone walks in and says, 236 00:10:05,121 --> 00:10:06,398 "Oh, albums have music on them." 237 00:10:06,433 --> 00:10:08,849 You're like, "This is a music format? 238 00:10:08,884 --> 00:10:09,643 Wow." 239 00:10:09,678 --> 00:10:11,058 He spent the entire time 240 00:10:11,093 --> 00:10:13,095 staring at the needle touching the groove 241 00:10:13,129 --> 00:10:15,166 and watching it move and looking at the speakers 242 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,583 and going back and forth like it was some kind of alchemy. 243 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:22,691 - This is like 100 years old, how is this possible? 244 00:10:22,725 --> 00:10:25,797 - It's magical, it's mind-blowing 245 00:10:25,832 --> 00:10:28,041 how the fuck it works. 246 00:10:28,075 --> 00:10:30,560 ♪ Covering my eyes from far away ♪ 247 00:10:30,595 --> 00:10:32,977 [waves crashing] [record lock groove repeats] 248 00:10:33,011 --> 00:10:35,186 - So sound is vibration. 249 00:10:36,428 --> 00:10:37,913 Frequency 250 00:10:37,947 --> 00:10:41,433 is sound per second 251 00:10:41,468 --> 00:10:46,473 and then music is a unique collection of frequencies. 252 00:10:47,301 --> 00:10:48,751 And that's just moving air 253 00:10:48,786 --> 00:10:50,788 and that's what's beautiful about vinyl is that 254 00:10:50,822 --> 00:10:52,168 it's taking that movement 255 00:10:52,203 --> 00:10:55,965 and making it a solid, tangible artifact. 256 00:10:57,277 --> 00:11:01,315 The way it works is sound is gonna be sent 257 00:11:01,350 --> 00:11:03,179 to these two magnets. 258 00:11:03,214 --> 00:11:06,251 There's a sharp diamond stylus right here 259 00:11:06,286 --> 00:11:10,773 and that's gonna take the mechanical vibrations of the music 260 00:11:10,808 --> 00:11:13,189 and carve it into this blank disk. 261 00:11:14,501 --> 00:11:17,884 When I was first in a band, like around 17, 262 00:11:17,918 --> 00:11:20,369 and like you know really getting a grasp 263 00:11:20,403 --> 00:11:22,474 of what it means to create things. 264 00:11:22,509 --> 00:11:26,133 Just seeing an actual vinyl record and like holding it, 265 00:11:26,168 --> 00:11:31,173 it just made it, like, if I really am proud of this thing 266 00:11:32,001 --> 00:11:33,347 I just put my heart and soul in, 267 00:11:33,382 --> 00:11:36,005 it only makes sense to put my money where my mouth is. 268 00:11:37,179 --> 00:11:40,700 So I started scouring the internet 269 00:11:40,734 --> 00:11:42,011 and was like how could I do this myself, 270 00:11:42,046 --> 00:11:44,186 because I do everything myself, 271 00:11:44,220 --> 00:11:47,189 and that's why the record lathe 272 00:11:47,223 --> 00:11:49,950 became the most viable option for me. 273 00:11:49,985 --> 00:11:50,951 We're ready to cut. 274 00:11:52,401 --> 00:11:53,298 [muted music] 275 00:11:53,333 --> 00:11:55,853 Now it's etching the sound. 276 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,202 It's magic, obviously. 277 00:12:01,617 --> 00:12:02,791 [wondrous music] 278 00:12:02,825 --> 00:12:05,345 - It's so temperamental and difficult 279 00:12:05,379 --> 00:12:07,312 to get every step right. 280 00:12:07,347 --> 00:12:10,350 To write the songs, to have a functional band, 281 00:12:10,384 --> 00:12:13,180 to have a functional vision, to have a good engineer 282 00:12:13,215 --> 00:12:17,150 and a good studio and then a good mastering engineer 283 00:12:17,184 --> 00:12:19,531 and then a good like lacquer cutter 284 00:12:19,566 --> 00:12:23,501 and then a good plater, you know, plating person, 285 00:12:23,535 --> 00:12:24,778 like Gary Salstrom 286 00:12:24,813 --> 00:12:26,538 is the really famous plating person at QRP. 287 00:12:26,573 --> 00:12:29,231 He fuckin' wrote me an email, I was like almost fainted. 288 00:12:29,265 --> 00:12:30,163 This guy's amazing. 289 00:12:31,612 --> 00:12:35,133 [soothing music] 290 00:12:35,168 --> 00:12:36,686 - Unlike compact discs 291 00:12:36,721 --> 00:12:38,274 you're not opening a door and pushing a button 292 00:12:38,309 --> 00:12:41,726 to start a series of events on a computer. 293 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:44,384 We have somebody handling the lacquers. 294 00:12:44,418 --> 00:12:47,767 We make a duplicate of that through a series of cleaning 295 00:12:47,801 --> 00:12:50,390 and sensitizing steps, silver it, 296 00:12:50,424 --> 00:12:52,426 put that in the plating tank, make a master. 297 00:12:53,842 --> 00:12:56,085 This is the mother made from that master. 298 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,293 I listen to that, 299 00:12:57,328 --> 00:12:59,054 make sure it's the quality is what we want, 300 00:12:59,088 --> 00:13:01,297 make any repairs that might need to be done 301 00:13:01,332 --> 00:13:04,956 and then we make a stamper that's gonna press the records. 302 00:13:04,991 --> 00:13:07,717 Stan here is unloading a stamper 303 00:13:07,752 --> 00:13:09,823 that's just been made from a mother 304 00:13:09,858 --> 00:13:12,205 and later on he'll separate those two parts 305 00:13:12,239 --> 00:13:15,933 and the stamper'll go out to the press room 306 00:13:15,967 --> 00:13:17,624 and press records. 307 00:13:17,658 --> 00:13:19,177 If everything's done right, 308 00:13:19,212 --> 00:13:22,077 that stamper is an exact mirror image of the mother. 309 00:13:24,458 --> 00:13:26,667 On a job board at school I found a posting 310 00:13:26,702 --> 00:13:29,774 and I started off just sanding stampers. 311 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:32,190 I realized this is pretty cool. 312 00:13:32,225 --> 00:13:35,884 I can get free records and... [laughs] 313 00:13:35,918 --> 00:13:38,610 This is the vinyl that's gonna press the records. 314 00:13:38,645 --> 00:13:42,338 This is virgin vinyl that we get from a company, TPC, 315 00:13:42,373 --> 00:13:44,789 that's made in Thailand. 316 00:13:44,824 --> 00:13:48,206 The vinyl is heated up in stages, makes a puck. 317 00:13:48,241 --> 00:13:51,347 That puck'll be moved in, onto the center pin of the press 318 00:13:53,073 --> 00:13:55,973 and that's gonna compress into the biscuit. 319 00:13:56,007 --> 00:13:58,320 [press hums] 320 00:13:59,528 --> 00:14:01,875 Record's pressed between the dies, or stampers, 321 00:14:01,910 --> 00:14:03,187 mounted on each side. 322 00:14:05,983 --> 00:14:07,847 It's gonna cut off the excess vinyl 323 00:14:09,918 --> 00:14:11,989 and it comes out the front end. 324 00:14:12,023 --> 00:14:13,818 This is where they're allowed to cool 325 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:16,131 and everything's hand inspected. 326 00:14:16,165 --> 00:14:18,133 Two people in our QC department, 327 00:14:18,167 --> 00:14:19,444 one will be looking at the records 328 00:14:19,479 --> 00:14:20,687 and the other will be listening, 329 00:14:20,721 --> 00:14:22,827 identifying any potential problems. 330 00:14:24,001 --> 00:14:25,312 This is where we do all the listening. 331 00:14:25,347 --> 00:14:26,762 This is Jamie. 332 00:14:26,796 --> 00:14:29,523 He can look at defects and he's checking centering. 333 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:34,459 [laughs] 334 00:14:34,494 --> 00:14:37,669 We want the record to be as concentric as possible, 335 00:14:37,704 --> 00:14:39,637 so it's really critical 336 00:14:39,671 --> 00:14:41,087 and it's probably one of the toughest things 337 00:14:41,121 --> 00:14:42,882 that we have here to get right. 338 00:14:43,710 --> 00:14:44,642 Other than that, 339 00:14:44,676 --> 00:14:45,885 he's listening to it to make sure it's free 340 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:48,163 of any non-fill, tics, pops, 341 00:14:48,197 --> 00:14:50,924 stains, scratches, things like that. 342 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:52,512 I feel guilty sometimes 343 00:14:52,546 --> 00:14:55,066 'cause I get really stressed out about makin' records 344 00:14:55,101 --> 00:14:56,412 and one of my best friends said, 345 00:14:56,447 --> 00:14:58,656 "There's no such thing as a vinyl emergency." 346 00:14:58,690 --> 00:15:00,278 And I try to remember that, 347 00:15:00,313 --> 00:15:03,695 but it's amazing how stressed out you can get. 348 00:15:03,730 --> 00:15:06,733 [upbeat music] 349 00:15:06,767 --> 00:15:08,045 - You know when we're talkin' about vinyl records, 350 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:11,151 the process that we use is incredibly similar 351 00:15:11,186 --> 00:15:13,913 to the process that was used to make records in 1880. 352 00:15:15,155 --> 00:15:16,881 - For the first what, maybe, 353 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:20,574 70-plus years of recorded music, 354 00:15:20,609 --> 00:15:23,474 records, whether they're made vinyl or from shellac, 355 00:15:23,508 --> 00:15:25,579 but the basic form, right, circular. 356 00:15:25,614 --> 00:15:28,479 And that was pretty much the only format that existed. 357 00:15:30,067 --> 00:15:32,345 - [Narrator] Every record is made with the same care 358 00:15:32,379 --> 00:15:35,279 and to the same high-fidelity standards. 359 00:15:35,313 --> 00:15:38,420 - The 12 inch format succeeded 360 00:15:38,454 --> 00:15:40,629 because you can see it from across the street 361 00:15:40,663 --> 00:15:41,941 in a record store window. 362 00:15:43,149 --> 00:15:46,531 - When you talk about the LP era, 363 00:15:46,566 --> 00:15:49,569 what you're talking about is consumer culture 364 00:15:49,603 --> 00:15:52,227 welcoming in large groups of people 365 00:15:52,261 --> 00:15:55,471 who previously were not affluent enough to be targeted. 366 00:15:55,506 --> 00:15:58,750 It was very affordable, it sounded great 367 00:15:58,785 --> 00:16:03,583 and you could have a sort of relatively cheap experience 368 00:16:03,617 --> 00:16:07,138 of urban affluence across all these demographic lines. 369 00:16:08,277 --> 00:16:09,416 - When people were moving into the suburbs, 370 00:16:09,451 --> 00:16:11,660 often the records and the record players 371 00:16:11,694 --> 00:16:12,972 were part of the culture 372 00:16:13,006 --> 00:16:15,560 that they were able to bring into their house. 373 00:16:15,595 --> 00:16:17,459 Records are a piece of art. 374 00:16:17,493 --> 00:16:19,909 - [Announcer] You are going on a ride, 375 00:16:19,944 --> 00:16:22,464 a ride on a diamond tip as it plunges down 376 00:16:22,498 --> 00:16:26,364 through a canyon of sound where music is made. 377 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:28,504 [majestic orchestral music] 378 00:16:28,539 --> 00:16:30,575 - It's probably really not until 1970s 379 00:16:30,610 --> 00:16:33,820 that things like cassettes and then 8-tracks 380 00:16:33,854 --> 00:16:36,547 and of course by the 1980s, the coming of the CD 381 00:16:36,581 --> 00:16:38,652 now provide competition for vinyl. 382 00:16:38,687 --> 00:16:40,171 [audience cheering] [thumping music] 383 00:16:40,206 --> 00:16:41,345 - [Announcer] Phillips announce the next best thing 384 00:16:41,379 --> 00:16:43,519 to live music: compact disc. 385 00:16:44,727 --> 00:16:45,694 [audience roars] [explosive music] 386 00:16:45,728 --> 00:16:46,626 - [Oliver] They were smaller, 387 00:16:46,660 --> 00:16:48,455 in theory, they sounded better. 388 00:16:48,490 --> 00:16:51,458 - [Announcer] Pure sound played by laser. 389 00:16:51,493 --> 00:16:54,634 - Digital is arguably a more perfect format. 390 00:16:54,668 --> 00:16:56,394 It has consistency. 391 00:16:56,429 --> 00:16:57,947 It potentially has a lower noise floor, 392 00:16:57,982 --> 00:17:00,329 a greater dynamic range. 393 00:17:00,364 --> 00:17:04,126 - I think the record industry in some way was saying, 394 00:17:04,161 --> 00:17:05,645 "You don't want your records anymore," 395 00:17:05,679 --> 00:17:07,681 to the general public. 396 00:17:07,716 --> 00:17:09,545 "You have to have CDs." 397 00:17:09,580 --> 00:17:12,134 - Record sales begin to fall off a cliff. 398 00:17:12,169 --> 00:17:13,549 I mean the high point, the zenith, 399 00:17:13,584 --> 00:17:17,070 is around probably "Thriller," right, around 1983 400 00:17:17,105 --> 00:17:20,694 and then everything begins to precipitously drop off 401 00:17:20,729 --> 00:17:22,351 from that point. 402 00:17:22,386 --> 00:17:25,009 - The long-playing album will only be 41 years old this year 403 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:27,322 and already it's headed for early retirement. 404 00:17:27,356 --> 00:17:29,945 Like drive-in movies and gas-guzzling cars, 405 00:17:29,979 --> 00:17:31,705 it's another casualty of progress. 406 00:17:32,913 --> 00:17:35,606 - Records, you know, huge pain in the ass. 407 00:17:37,125 --> 00:17:40,680 [record crashes] [light guitar music] 408 00:17:40,714 --> 00:17:42,268 - [laughs] It's heavy. 409 00:17:42,302 --> 00:17:44,925 - My back is probably not in the best shape it could be 410 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,548 because of vinyl records. 411 00:17:46,582 --> 00:17:49,930 - Every time I've moved I've amassed more records 412 00:17:49,965 --> 00:17:51,553 than the previous time I moved. 413 00:17:51,587 --> 00:17:53,555 So every time it's more and more of a pain in the ass. 414 00:17:53,589 --> 00:17:54,452 [records clatter] 415 00:17:54,487 --> 00:17:55,867 - I don't, you tear my shit. 416 00:17:55,902 --> 00:17:58,525 - It drives me nuts how easy it is to damage, 417 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,114 how easy it is to warp, how easy it is to skip, 418 00:18:01,149 --> 00:18:02,771 how easy it is to break the spine, 419 00:18:02,805 --> 00:18:04,704 how easy it is as a cat owner 420 00:18:04,738 --> 00:18:06,740 to have a shelf full of records 421 00:18:06,775 --> 00:18:09,088 get wrecked in one fell swoop. 422 00:18:09,122 --> 00:18:09,985 [cat meows] 423 00:18:10,019 --> 00:18:12,953 - Ow, no, [sighs] too late. 424 00:18:12,988 --> 00:18:15,404 - I had it in crates 425 00:18:15,439 --> 00:18:16,957 and whenever it would get warm, 426 00:18:16,992 --> 00:18:20,616 I would move them from room to room 427 00:18:20,651 --> 00:18:23,861 because I was like, if they warp, I'm done. 428 00:18:23,895 --> 00:18:26,381 [soothing music] 429 00:18:26,415 --> 00:18:29,729 - Vinyl wasn't perceived to have much value in 1990. 430 00:18:29,763 --> 00:18:31,144 People would bring in all their records 431 00:18:31,179 --> 00:18:34,285 and on top of the pile would be their turntable. 432 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,115 You know it's like, "Here you go." 433 00:18:37,633 --> 00:18:40,464 So we used go to different cities across the East 434 00:18:40,498 --> 00:18:43,536 and we would basically stand in a hotel room 435 00:18:43,570 --> 00:18:45,503 buying records for 10 days straight, 436 00:18:45,538 --> 00:18:48,368 box 'em all up and ship 'em to California. 437 00:18:48,403 --> 00:18:50,439 It was a formula that worked right off the bat. 438 00:18:50,474 --> 00:18:54,719 - But there was this just glut of vinyl 439 00:18:54,754 --> 00:18:56,652 that had been dumped. 440 00:18:56,687 --> 00:18:59,586 Stores just full of records. 441 00:18:59,621 --> 00:19:01,554 - You could be buying these records 442 00:19:01,588 --> 00:19:04,971 that are worth so much now for $5 or less. 443 00:19:05,005 --> 00:19:08,319 - The condition was always, you know, iffy, 444 00:19:08,354 --> 00:19:12,323 but that was an especially good time to find records. 445 00:19:17,604 --> 00:19:20,124 - I always had a fascination with records. 446 00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:23,196 I've also played the drums since I was nine years old 447 00:19:23,231 --> 00:19:25,647 and so I was always in bands, interested in music, 448 00:19:25,681 --> 00:19:29,306 my parents loved music and I loved working in record stores. 449 00:19:29,340 --> 00:19:31,308 It's all I've ever done my entire life 450 00:19:31,342 --> 00:19:32,792 since I got out of high school. 451 00:19:33,896 --> 00:19:36,761 We have three stores now 452 00:19:36,796 --> 00:19:39,454 and each one of them would be considered 453 00:19:39,488 --> 00:19:41,628 the largest record store on the planet. 454 00:19:43,147 --> 00:19:46,771 We became a place for weirdo record geeks like myself 455 00:19:46,806 --> 00:19:49,843 to have a good job and create a community. 456 00:19:50,810 --> 00:19:52,846 It's a perfect job for me. 457 00:19:52,881 --> 00:19:56,264 I get to sleep in late, I get to wear my hair long 458 00:19:56,298 --> 00:19:57,748 and just be myself. 459 00:20:00,820 --> 00:20:02,856 - The record shop in the pre-internet days, 460 00:20:02,891 --> 00:20:07,516 it was where you would go to find your crowd of people, 461 00:20:07,551 --> 00:20:10,036 it was where you would go to find out about music 462 00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:11,831 and records and buy concert tickets 463 00:20:11,865 --> 00:20:14,005 and maybe see a band play. 464 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,285 That's just where anyone who was interested 465 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:19,839 in all that kind of stuff was hanging out. 466 00:20:19,873 --> 00:20:21,910 - Goin' to a record store was part of my life. 467 00:20:21,944 --> 00:20:23,912 It was something I always did, 468 00:20:23,946 --> 00:20:26,535 I never imagined I wouldn't be doing that. 469 00:20:27,571 --> 00:20:29,883 [soft music] 470 00:20:31,747 --> 00:20:34,094 So I was opening a record store in the '90s 471 00:20:34,129 --> 00:20:36,890 and Dr. Dre was just about to drop Snoop. 472 00:20:36,925 --> 00:20:38,996 It was an interesting time. 473 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:40,618 My musical experience was difference 474 00:20:40,653 --> 00:20:42,827 than the older guys who'd opened record stores before me 475 00:20:42,862 --> 00:20:44,864 and everybody's gonna put a little bit of themselves 476 00:20:44,898 --> 00:20:46,452 into their space. 477 00:20:46,486 --> 00:20:49,351 Well I think the typical Sound Garden employee is people 478 00:20:49,386 --> 00:20:53,666 who truly love records and record stores. 479 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:55,288 This is where they'd want to hang out. 480 00:20:55,323 --> 00:20:56,738 We don't care if you have a drink while you're working 481 00:20:56,772 --> 00:20:58,947 or you're high on weed. 482 00:20:58,981 --> 00:21:00,845 We don't really give a shit, you know? 483 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,434 It's not like we're school bus drivers here. 484 00:21:03,469 --> 00:21:05,816 It's a community of people 485 00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:08,059 who are very similar to their customers. 486 00:21:09,923 --> 00:21:13,272 [soft music continues] 487 00:21:13,306 --> 00:21:15,101 - I feel like if you walk into my store 488 00:21:15,135 --> 00:21:16,965 and you can't find something you like, 489 00:21:16,999 --> 00:21:18,656 then I have somehow failed in my mission 490 00:21:18,691 --> 00:21:20,209 to be a record shop. 491 00:21:20,244 --> 00:21:22,764 I want the kid who walks in, 492 00:21:22,798 --> 00:21:24,455 if she's eight or nine years old, 493 00:21:24,490 --> 00:21:25,836 to find her favorite record 494 00:21:25,870 --> 00:21:28,528 and as she develops her own musical taste 495 00:21:28,563 --> 00:21:30,254 over the next 10, 20 years, 496 00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:32,774 she can find everything that she likes 497 00:21:32,808 --> 00:21:34,085 here at the record shop. 498 00:21:36,191 --> 00:21:38,331 - I'd never seen anything like it in my life 499 00:21:38,366 --> 00:21:39,919 and there are people 500 00:21:39,953 --> 00:21:41,645 standing in front of record bins going like this. 501 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:45,787 So I just kind of saddled up to one of the record bins 502 00:21:45,821 --> 00:21:49,031 and I start flipping through and felt like, you know, 503 00:21:49,066 --> 00:21:51,758 this is a world that I wanted to be in. 504 00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,106 - You know you basically are gonna get turned on to things 505 00:21:55,141 --> 00:21:57,937 just by looking this way or that way, 506 00:21:57,971 --> 00:22:00,111 as opposed to having something fed to you 507 00:22:00,146 --> 00:22:01,112 by some logarithm. 508 00:22:02,769 --> 00:22:07,567 - There's a lot of records that only exist as records, 509 00:22:07,602 --> 00:22:11,191 so going into like a dusty record store, 510 00:22:11,226 --> 00:22:13,504 digging under the shelves into the other crates 511 00:22:13,539 --> 00:22:15,955 and it's almost like being an archeologist 512 00:22:15,989 --> 00:22:17,197 and digging out stuff. 513 00:22:17,232 --> 00:22:19,027 - I love digging in the crates. 514 00:22:19,061 --> 00:22:21,340 Unfortunately I always wear a really nice shirt 515 00:22:21,374 --> 00:22:23,790 when I should be wearing a really grungy shirt 516 00:22:23,825 --> 00:22:26,690 to go dig in the crates. 517 00:22:26,724 --> 00:22:28,795 - I think fun is really the bottom line to it all. 518 00:22:28,830 --> 00:22:30,176 It's fun to go to stores. 519 00:22:30,210 --> 00:22:31,695 You bump into somebody you know, 520 00:22:31,729 --> 00:22:32,834 you see what they're buying. 521 00:22:32,868 --> 00:22:35,940 - I go up the block here to Record City, 522 00:22:35,975 --> 00:22:39,841 maybe pop into my bar up there, Westbury Inn, 523 00:22:39,875 --> 00:22:41,118 have a beer. 524 00:22:41,152 --> 00:22:43,569 Yeah, after a beer I definitely get more records. 525 00:22:43,603 --> 00:22:46,503 [couple laughs] 526 00:22:46,537 --> 00:22:49,402 - My strategy is to just be comfortable 527 00:22:49,437 --> 00:22:54,234 and touch all the records in the store. 528 00:22:54,269 --> 00:22:56,754 - I'm a terrible browser. 529 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:59,792 I'm like anything could be in there. 530 00:22:59,826 --> 00:23:01,207 He's like- 531 00:23:01,241 --> 00:23:04,797 - [Couple] Anything could be in there. [laughs] 532 00:23:04,831 --> 00:23:06,557 - And often anything is. 533 00:23:06,592 --> 00:23:08,663 - For people who like to collect records, 534 00:23:08,697 --> 00:23:10,941 the thrill of what might be behind the door 535 00:23:10,975 --> 00:23:13,150 of that little shop, you know, 536 00:23:13,184 --> 00:23:16,705 I've never been stunned to find an MP3. 537 00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:18,327 - Finding something that, 538 00:23:18,362 --> 00:23:20,985 the day before you didn't even previously know existed, 539 00:23:22,193 --> 00:23:24,195 like finding a South African pressing 540 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:25,956 of the first Stooges album. 541 00:23:27,578 --> 00:23:29,615 To most people that's going to seem 542 00:23:30,478 --> 00:23:32,238 entirely inconsequential. 543 00:23:32,272 --> 00:23:33,515 Like, "Oh, is it different music?" 544 00:23:33,550 --> 00:23:35,137 "Oh no, it's the same master that was used 545 00:23:35,172 --> 00:23:37,864 at the Columbia Pitman pressing plant in the United States." 546 00:23:37,899 --> 00:23:39,279 "Oh is it a different cover?" 547 00:23:39,314 --> 00:23:41,074 "No, it's the same picture." 548 00:23:41,109 --> 00:23:42,593 "Well what's different about it?" 549 00:23:42,628 --> 00:23:45,665 "Well they used a slightly different back cover orientation 550 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:47,391 and the center label's different." 551 00:23:48,496 --> 00:23:49,255 "That's it?" 552 00:23:49,289 --> 00:23:50,843 "Yeah, that's it." 553 00:23:50,877 --> 00:23:51,982 That makes... 554 00:23:52,914 --> 00:23:54,812 That's the highlight of a month. 555 00:23:54,847 --> 00:23:57,056 That is really, really exciting. 556 00:23:57,090 --> 00:23:59,679 - Who are the most passionate weirdos? 557 00:24:00,818 --> 00:24:02,855 They're passionate weirdos is who they are 558 00:24:02,889 --> 00:24:04,684 and by the way, I subscribe to that, 559 00:24:04,719 --> 00:24:07,100 you know I am a member of the tribe. 560 00:24:07,929 --> 00:24:10,621 [graceful music] 561 00:24:14,314 --> 00:24:17,663 - Music had been a way of dealing with depression for me, 562 00:24:18,905 --> 00:24:20,217 a way of being less lonely 563 00:24:20,251 --> 00:24:22,702 as I kind of left my hometown very young 564 00:24:22,737 --> 00:24:24,048 and was moving around 565 00:24:24,083 --> 00:24:26,119 and very often didn't have anyone around me. 566 00:24:27,811 --> 00:24:30,261 You know I'm like poor and 18 years old 567 00:24:30,296 --> 00:24:31,884 and what ended up happening is somebody, 568 00:24:31,918 --> 00:24:33,092 who was a little older than me, 569 00:24:33,126 --> 00:24:35,094 took me into their big demo room, sat me down 570 00:24:35,128 --> 00:24:37,303 and played me a live David Bowie recording 571 00:24:37,337 --> 00:24:40,996 on this like $300,000 LYD Dynaudio system 572 00:24:41,031 --> 00:24:42,964 and absolutely wrecked my frame of reference 573 00:24:42,998 --> 00:24:45,069 for what good sound was. 574 00:24:45,104 --> 00:24:47,486 It was like okay, well I can have this emotional experience, 575 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,490 this anti-depressant experience and I can have it be better? 576 00:24:51,524 --> 00:24:52,491 Sign me up. 577 00:24:53,871 --> 00:24:55,286 - I have a nice sound system at home. 578 00:24:55,321 --> 00:24:56,840 I have a very nice turntable. 579 00:24:56,874 --> 00:24:59,118 I keep my records clean 580 00:24:59,152 --> 00:25:02,155 and when I'm listening to a record I have to pay attention. 581 00:25:02,190 --> 00:25:05,089 - See, this is hi-fi, 582 00:25:05,124 --> 00:25:06,574 okay? 583 00:25:06,608 --> 00:25:08,334 High fidelity. 584 00:25:08,368 --> 00:25:10,129 - Audiophiles are the worst. 585 00:25:10,992 --> 00:25:13,650 They are the worst, come on. 586 00:25:13,684 --> 00:25:15,824 They are passionate 587 00:25:15,859 --> 00:25:20,795 about all the wrong things about vinyl records. 588 00:25:22,003 --> 00:25:23,867 They prefer to complain than to just sit back 589 00:25:23,901 --> 00:25:28,457 and ignore that .01% of imperfection here. 590 00:25:29,976 --> 00:25:32,220 And I'm sure this will be used against me in a court of law 591 00:25:32,254 --> 00:25:34,602 and I've just dug my own grave. 592 00:25:34,636 --> 00:25:36,742 I get as much. 593 00:25:36,776 --> 00:25:39,054 - I think the dominant image you see of record collectors 594 00:25:39,089 --> 00:25:41,678 and the media tends to be some version 595 00:25:41,712 --> 00:25:43,576 of "The Simpsons" comic store guy. 596 00:25:43,611 --> 00:25:45,647 - Someone has mixed an "Amazing Spider-Man" in 597 00:25:45,682 --> 00:25:48,581 with the "Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man" series. 598 00:25:48,616 --> 00:25:50,341 This will not stand. 599 00:25:50,376 --> 00:25:52,136 - I'm not saying that's completely false 600 00:25:52,171 --> 00:25:54,691 because I've met people that certainly fit that profile. 601 00:25:54,725 --> 00:25:56,175 But I think over the years, 602 00:25:56,209 --> 00:25:58,833 I've met a very, very diverse array of people 603 00:25:58,867 --> 00:26:00,213 who are into records. 604 00:26:00,248 --> 00:26:01,939 You don't necessarily see that reflected, though, 605 00:26:01,974 --> 00:26:05,080 in the depictions that we have for record collectors. 606 00:26:05,115 --> 00:26:07,048 - Nah, that one's not so great. 607 00:26:08,118 --> 00:26:09,809 This is the one I'd recommend. 608 00:26:09,844 --> 00:26:12,501 It's a, I mean this track alone by Memphis Minnie 609 00:26:12,536 --> 00:26:15,919 is worth about $500 if you own the original 78. 610 00:26:15,953 --> 00:26:17,058 - [Enid] Wow. 611 00:26:17,092 --> 00:26:18,024 [Rebecca snorts] [foot stomps] 612 00:26:18,059 --> 00:26:20,164 - It always has been 613 00:26:20,199 --> 00:26:23,202 kind of a boys club kind of thing historically. 614 00:26:23,236 --> 00:26:27,137 - I think that's a stereotype and I would beg to differ 615 00:26:27,171 --> 00:26:30,243 because I was buying vinyl when I was a teenager 616 00:26:32,245 --> 00:26:36,284 and I'm not a young white male or a middle-aged white, 617 00:26:36,318 --> 00:26:37,872 or I wasn't, yeah. 618 00:26:37,906 --> 00:26:40,115 - The big struggle that the high-end audio industry 619 00:26:40,150 --> 00:26:43,774 has identified for itself is this evolving discussion 620 00:26:43,809 --> 00:26:47,571 that's about how to reach out to women, people of color, 621 00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:49,711 you know all sorts of youth, minority, 622 00:26:49,746 --> 00:26:51,195 all of those sort of sectors 623 00:26:51,230 --> 00:26:53,059 that they've never touched on before. 624 00:26:53,094 --> 00:26:56,097 And ironically, they continue to do the exact things 625 00:26:56,131 --> 00:26:58,996 that are not helpful in that pursuit 626 00:26:59,031 --> 00:27:01,102 and that is to treat women like children 627 00:27:01,136 --> 00:27:02,828 and young people like they're idiots 628 00:27:02,862 --> 00:27:04,933 and people of color like criminals. 629 00:27:04,968 --> 00:27:07,004 If you want to change things, you have to just do it. 630 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:11,319 - The fact that then I thought that vinyl belonged, 631 00:27:11,353 --> 00:27:14,080 in a certain sense, to that certain kind of white man, 632 00:27:14,115 --> 00:27:18,809 was definitely encouraged by the images 633 00:27:18,844 --> 00:27:21,260 whenever anybody was talking about vinyl. 634 00:27:21,294 --> 00:27:22,813 - You guys are snobs. 635 00:27:22,848 --> 00:27:24,056 - No, we're not. 636 00:27:24,090 --> 00:27:25,298 - No, seriously, you're totally elitists. 637 00:27:25,333 --> 00:27:27,473 You feel like the underappreciated scholars 638 00:27:27,507 --> 00:27:30,234 so you shit on the people who know less than you. 639 00:27:30,269 --> 00:27:31,339 - No. - Which is everybody. 640 00:27:31,373 --> 00:27:32,789 - Yeah. - Yes. 641 00:27:32,823 --> 00:27:33,824 - I think a lot of people think 642 00:27:33,859 --> 00:27:34,998 that when you go to a record store, 643 00:27:35,032 --> 00:27:36,482 the owner is gonna be grumpy 644 00:27:36,516 --> 00:27:38,001 and he's gonna sort of judge you 645 00:27:38,035 --> 00:27:39,381 and I've certainly felt that way. 646 00:27:39,416 --> 00:27:44,076 - I've had more than one male cable technician walk in 647 00:27:44,110 --> 00:27:45,146 and look at my records 648 00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:47,700 and say, "Wow, whose records are these?" 649 00:27:47,735 --> 00:27:51,324 If I had a penis, you would assume they were my records. 650 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,568 - Do I feel good when someone's like, 651 00:27:53,602 --> 00:27:55,535 "Oh cool, the DJ is a woman. 652 00:27:55,570 --> 00:27:57,192 That's cool, that's different." 653 00:27:57,227 --> 00:28:00,748 Like, dude, I'm tryin' to just do my job here, 654 00:28:00,782 --> 00:28:02,750 I don't need commentary. 655 00:28:02,784 --> 00:28:04,199 I might be really colorful. 656 00:28:04,234 --> 00:28:06,201 I might have weird records, 657 00:28:06,236 --> 00:28:07,651 but I've been doing this for 10 years 658 00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:09,273 and I know how to run a mixer, 659 00:28:09,308 --> 00:28:10,550 I know how to run a turntable, 660 00:28:10,585 --> 00:28:12,345 I know how to beat match. 661 00:28:12,380 --> 00:28:13,933 Like I know these things 662 00:28:13,968 --> 00:28:18,317 and I'm just ready for people to just assume that I do. 663 00:28:20,181 --> 00:28:21,320 ♪ The stuff that held back 664 00:28:21,354 --> 00:28:22,804 ♪ Do want somebody 665 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:24,081 [vibrant rap music] 666 00:28:24,116 --> 00:28:26,635 - During the low point of vinyl sales, 667 00:28:26,670 --> 00:28:30,122 the one community I think that still held onto it 668 00:28:30,156 --> 00:28:31,192 was really DJs. 669 00:28:32,641 --> 00:28:35,886 When everyone else decided to shift over to other formats, 670 00:28:35,921 --> 00:28:37,405 those particular DJs were always 671 00:28:37,439 --> 00:28:40,546 still gonna stay loyal to vinyl. 672 00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:43,825 - The DJs, you know, they demanded it. 673 00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:45,516 If the labels weren't gonna do it, 674 00:28:45,551 --> 00:28:47,173 there were bootlegs coming out 675 00:28:47,208 --> 00:28:49,624 and I think they were kinda forced into keeping it going 676 00:28:49,658 --> 00:28:51,177 through like the '90s. 677 00:28:51,971 --> 00:28:55,043 [playful scratching music] 678 00:28:55,078 --> 00:28:58,046 It's a medium that lends itself to creativity. 679 00:28:58,081 --> 00:28:59,289 Like there's endless, 680 00:28:59,323 --> 00:29:02,395 like crazy things you can do with vinyl. 681 00:29:04,397 --> 00:29:07,746 [audience cheering] 682 00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:09,195 - With the DJs, we have hip-hop, we have punk, 683 00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:11,197 but in between there there was a layer of kids 684 00:29:11,232 --> 00:29:13,199 that were influenced by hip-hop, 685 00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:14,580 but wanted to do something new, 686 00:29:14,614 --> 00:29:17,307 placing samples together to make beats. 687 00:29:17,341 --> 00:29:20,241 [light music] 688 00:29:20,275 --> 00:29:21,794 - In the 2000s, 689 00:29:21,829 --> 00:29:25,142 digital DJing in a particular vinyl emulation systems 690 00:29:25,177 --> 00:29:27,455 or digital vinyl systems like Serato, 691 00:29:27,489 --> 00:29:29,560 when these began to come online 692 00:29:29,595 --> 00:29:32,218 a lot more DJs were happy to embrace that. 693 00:29:32,253 --> 00:29:35,256 - Control signals come in all different colors, 694 00:29:35,290 --> 00:29:38,569 whether they be vinyl, and sizes. 695 00:29:38,604 --> 00:29:40,675 They also come in CD form 696 00:29:40,709 --> 00:29:43,574 or you can put the file on a USB stick. 697 00:29:43,609 --> 00:29:45,266 - So much to my surprise, 698 00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:48,234 these people who had been DJs since the 1980s, 699 00:29:48,269 --> 00:29:50,823 begin to just liquidate their entire collections. 700 00:29:50,858 --> 00:29:52,756 - We've seen a decrease definitely, 701 00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:54,240 definitely in hip-hop 12 inches 702 00:29:54,275 --> 00:29:55,863 and dance 12 inches over the years. 703 00:29:55,897 --> 00:30:00,799 And I think that DJs now don't spin vinyl as much. 704 00:30:02,007 --> 00:30:04,112 - I had a tour in Japan a while back 705 00:30:04,147 --> 00:30:08,358 and the promoter was like, "Hey, are you gonna bring vinyl?" 706 00:30:08,392 --> 00:30:11,740 And I said, "Well, if I do are they paying more, 707 00:30:11,775 --> 00:30:14,398 'cause I have more baggage fees," and stuff like that. 708 00:30:14,433 --> 00:30:15,158 He goes, "No." 709 00:30:15,192 --> 00:30:16,504 I was like, "Okay. 710 00:30:16,538 --> 00:30:18,575 Well then why would I bring it, you know?" [laughs] 711 00:30:18,609 --> 00:30:20,197 - Boom, that's iPod. 712 00:30:20,232 --> 00:30:22,303 I happen to have one right here in my pocket in fact. 713 00:30:22,337 --> 00:30:23,131 [audience laughing] 714 00:30:23,166 --> 00:30:24,615 There it is right there. 715 00:30:24,650 --> 00:30:26,307 [audience applauding] 716 00:30:26,341 --> 00:30:27,895 [upbeat music] 717 00:30:27,929 --> 00:30:31,519 - [Kurt] It all came crashing down in the Napster era. 718 00:30:31,553 --> 00:30:34,177 - And I just was like, "No, why? 719 00:30:34,211 --> 00:30:36,041 It's here, why change it?" 720 00:30:36,075 --> 00:30:37,905 - It's the era of the MP3 721 00:30:37,939 --> 00:30:40,114 that delivers the coup de grace, if you will. 722 00:30:40,148 --> 00:30:42,771 - [Steve] To have your whole music library with you 723 00:30:42,806 --> 00:30:47,673 at all times is a quantum leap in listening to music. 724 00:30:47,707 --> 00:30:52,160 - I think that music fans took out their anger 725 00:30:52,195 --> 00:30:53,955 or their 726 00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:54,922 distress 727 00:30:54,956 --> 00:30:58,028 with record labels on our shops. 728 00:30:58,063 --> 00:31:02,515 We were the natural go-to for people to express their dismay 729 00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:05,380 with pricing, with availability 730 00:31:05,415 --> 00:31:07,969 and as a result, we were easy prey. 731 00:31:08,004 --> 00:31:09,695 - [Reporter] There is a lot of history here 732 00:31:09,729 --> 00:31:12,249 and it's gonna take a little while to liquidate it all 733 00:31:12,284 --> 00:31:14,527 so you've probably got a couple of months left to come 734 00:31:14,562 --> 00:31:17,772 and get a piece of this history for what it's worth. 735 00:31:17,806 --> 00:31:19,567 - I think there was one year 736 00:31:19,601 --> 00:31:23,226 where I didn't even release anything on vinyl as a label 737 00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:24,330 and I was thinking like. 738 00:31:25,538 --> 00:31:26,919 - And we didn't sell enough of it 739 00:31:26,954 --> 00:31:30,233 to make it worth manufacturing, 740 00:31:30,267 --> 00:31:33,512 you know, 500 of them in order to sell 50. 741 00:31:33,546 --> 00:31:36,342 [car engines hum] 742 00:31:38,413 --> 00:31:40,174 - [Kurt] A lot of record pressing plants 743 00:31:40,208 --> 00:31:41,520 went out of business. 744 00:31:45,351 --> 00:31:47,526 - Music was always really important to me, 745 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,459 but my career was in business. 746 00:31:50,632 --> 00:31:53,256 In the mid-2000s, I kind of reached a point 747 00:31:53,290 --> 00:31:55,396 where I decided that I wanted to find something 748 00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:58,226 that was kind of a smaller, more niche-like business 749 00:31:58,261 --> 00:32:00,677 where I could be more hands-on involved. 750 00:32:01,954 --> 00:32:04,025 And this is where it all began. 751 00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:05,716 That was my old desk. 752 00:32:05,751 --> 00:32:07,442 [light switches click] 753 00:32:07,477 --> 00:32:10,204 I wasn't looking for a vinyl record manufacturer. 754 00:32:10,238 --> 00:32:12,413 It never occurred to me that I might find one of those, 755 00:32:12,447 --> 00:32:16,210 but this business had existed since 1949. 756 00:32:16,244 --> 00:32:19,420 [light switches click] 757 00:32:19,454 --> 00:32:21,456 I knew enough about music and I had enough beliefs 758 00:32:21,491 --> 00:32:23,631 that vinyl's not gonna go away. 759 00:32:23,665 --> 00:32:25,081 I thought it could be something 760 00:32:25,115 --> 00:32:27,531 where it would be a good, stable investment, 761 00:32:27,566 --> 00:32:28,981 I could spend time on it 762 00:32:29,016 --> 00:32:30,431 that would be emotionally meaningful 763 00:32:30,465 --> 00:32:32,433 and I thought I could add value to the business. 764 00:32:32,467 --> 00:32:33,365 Some of this is left. 765 00:32:33,399 --> 00:32:34,607 There's our old break room. 766 00:32:34,642 --> 00:32:37,748 So I bought the company in 2007 767 00:32:37,783 --> 00:32:39,819 and thought it was gonna be stable 768 00:32:39,854 --> 00:32:42,443 and require a little attention, but not a lot. 769 00:32:43,547 --> 00:32:45,135 This is the Motown Suite. 770 00:32:45,170 --> 00:32:48,449 This is where the Motown artists would celebrate 771 00:32:48,483 --> 00:32:50,658 their new record releases. 772 00:32:50,692 --> 00:32:52,591 And they needed a place to come 773 00:32:52,625 --> 00:32:54,248 because they couldn't get space 774 00:32:54,282 --> 00:32:56,975 in the segregated South back in the '60s. 775 00:32:57,009 --> 00:33:00,116 And everything is completely intact 776 00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:00,979 and 777 00:33:02,704 --> 00:33:04,292 I'm sure if these walls could talk, 778 00:33:04,327 --> 00:33:05,673 there'd be some great stories. 779 00:33:07,192 --> 00:33:09,504 A large part of what the company did when I bought it 780 00:33:09,539 --> 00:33:11,955 was they made 12 inch single records for DJs, 781 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:13,405 promotional records. 782 00:33:13,439 --> 00:33:15,994 That's how the major labels would support a new artist. 783 00:33:16,028 --> 00:33:19,652 Scattered throughout here we had three press rooms. 784 00:33:19,687 --> 00:33:22,448 We had seven presses in this little room, 785 00:33:22,483 --> 00:33:24,036 six presses going down there 786 00:33:24,071 --> 00:33:26,280 and another eight presses going back there. 787 00:33:27,557 --> 00:33:30,525 And we shoved an awful lot in this small little building. 788 00:33:31,664 --> 00:33:33,632 Shortly after I bought the company, 789 00:33:33,666 --> 00:33:36,152 the labels decided to discontinue that practice 790 00:33:36,186 --> 00:33:38,085 of producing 12 inch single records. 791 00:33:39,603 --> 00:33:41,122 That had a devastating impact 792 00:33:41,157 --> 00:33:43,814 on this small, stable business that I thought I had bought. 793 00:33:43,849 --> 00:33:46,886 Suddenly it became a very challenged business. 794 00:33:46,921 --> 00:33:48,509 [light switches click] 795 00:33:48,543 --> 00:33:51,063 There's nothing that said it's going to come back 796 00:33:51,098 --> 00:33:54,687 and it got worse before it got better. 797 00:33:54,722 --> 00:33:57,449 [somber music] 798 00:33:59,485 --> 00:34:02,281 [crowds murmur] 799 00:34:03,455 --> 00:34:07,045 - 2007 is sort of considered the bottom. 800 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,599 That year the market sold less than a million units. 801 00:34:10,807 --> 00:34:12,498 I think my wife and I were married, 802 00:34:12,533 --> 00:34:14,431 we were getting ready to move for the third or fourth time, 803 00:34:14,466 --> 00:34:16,813 as you are when you're young and just married, 804 00:34:16,847 --> 00:34:20,713 and it was like, I don't have the space, I'm done. 805 00:34:22,681 --> 00:34:25,270 I got rid of all my records. 806 00:34:31,207 --> 00:34:33,968 - Back then, we were on all in media stories 807 00:34:34,002 --> 00:34:35,659 for actually going out of business 808 00:34:35,694 --> 00:34:37,178 and our business is failing 809 00:34:37,213 --> 00:34:39,180 and I was like, that's a horrible story to tell. 810 00:34:39,215 --> 00:34:42,010 We're like telling people we're not cool anymore 811 00:34:42,045 --> 00:34:44,668 and that's all we have is being cool. 812 00:34:44,703 --> 00:34:48,810 So we held a conference for all the indie record stores 813 00:34:48,845 --> 00:34:51,192 called Noise in the Basement and we were talkin' about 814 00:34:51,227 --> 00:34:54,713 how we can perhaps change the perceptions, 815 00:34:54,747 --> 00:34:56,059 just change the story. 816 00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:57,336 I said, "Hey, maybe we could do something 817 00:34:57,371 --> 00:34:58,682 called Record Store Day." 818 00:34:58,717 --> 00:35:00,615 - Yes, we're gonna throw a party for ourselves. 819 00:35:00,650 --> 00:35:01,651 That seems a little weird, 820 00:35:01,685 --> 00:35:03,653 but let's try it and see what happens. 821 00:35:03,687 --> 00:35:04,688 And if you throw a party, 822 00:35:04,723 --> 00:35:06,656 it's will people show up to your party? 823 00:35:07,484 --> 00:35:09,728 - Vinyl was our only hope 824 00:35:09,762 --> 00:35:12,731 and we just hoped somebody else would give a shit. 825 00:35:12,765 --> 00:35:14,008 ♪ You've been, you've been 826 00:35:14,042 --> 00:35:15,630 ♪ Runnin' through my mind 827 00:35:15,665 --> 00:35:16,942 ♪ And I've been thinkin' that 828 00:35:16,976 --> 00:35:19,565 We can get artists to contribute some tracks, 829 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,601 some 7 inches, 830 00:35:20,635 --> 00:35:22,637 some things that are only exclusive to us. 831 00:35:22,672 --> 00:35:24,570 - The idea is they're limited. 832 00:35:24,605 --> 00:35:27,608 What format lends itself to that? Vinyl. 833 00:35:27,642 --> 00:35:28,643 - Check this out, 834 00:35:28,678 --> 00:35:30,645 this is Chuck D for Record Store Day. 835 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,785 - [Bryan] It was like all the biggies. 836 00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:36,341 Metallica was our first Record Store Day ambassadors. 837 00:35:36,375 --> 00:35:38,481 From there it just continued to grow. 838 00:35:38,515 --> 00:35:40,655 - Of course I'm no stranger to the title ambassador. 839 00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:43,210 - I now have the power to command you 840 00:35:43,244 --> 00:35:45,281 to attend Record Store Day. 841 00:35:45,315 --> 00:35:48,111 - I'm kind of blown away about what it is now. 842 00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:50,803 We started it six years ago 843 00:35:52,011 --> 00:35:54,911 and we only had 30 artists participate. 844 00:35:54,945 --> 00:35:58,984 Now we have 350 artists participating, it's worldwide. 845 00:35:59,018 --> 00:36:02,746 Record Store Day gave me and the employees who work here 846 00:36:02,781 --> 00:36:05,024 an opportunity to continue to work 847 00:36:05,059 --> 00:36:07,303 in an environment we love. 848 00:36:07,337 --> 00:36:10,927 You know we're kinda cool again. 849 00:36:10,961 --> 00:36:13,032 - You know, no accounting for the human heart, 850 00:36:13,067 --> 00:36:15,207 it's a very strange machine. 851 00:36:15,242 --> 00:36:17,727 - As you can see in the room we're sitting in, 852 00:36:17,761 --> 00:36:18,624 I haven't 853 00:36:19,832 --> 00:36:20,626 stopped 854 00:36:21,765 --> 00:36:24,699 then rebuying the records I got rid of, 855 00:36:24,734 --> 00:36:26,149 or just buying more records. 856 00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:28,738 So I was on the wagon is what I'm saying 857 00:36:29,808 --> 00:36:30,843 and now, 858 00:36:32,362 --> 00:36:33,743 I'm drunk with vinyl. 859 00:36:34,813 --> 00:36:36,228 [upbeat music] 860 00:36:36,263 --> 00:36:37,747 - It was just this gradual change 861 00:36:37,781 --> 00:36:39,058 and you all of a sudden realize 862 00:36:39,093 --> 00:36:41,820 that there's more and more stores opening up, 863 00:36:41,854 --> 00:36:43,511 there's more and more online retailers 864 00:36:43,546 --> 00:36:44,788 that are carrying vinyl. 865 00:36:44,823 --> 00:36:47,688 - All sorts of independent entities 866 00:36:47,722 --> 00:36:50,484 continued to make records when the majors weren't. 867 00:36:50,518 --> 00:36:53,176 - And if you have clout as an artist, 868 00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:55,040 you're going to want to have this experience, 869 00:36:55,074 --> 00:36:56,800 not this experience. 870 00:36:56,835 --> 00:36:57,698 - I think that's when we started 871 00:36:57,732 --> 00:36:58,871 to see a younger demographic. 872 00:37:00,390 --> 00:37:03,151 - I think I was like 15 or 16 when my dad bought me 873 00:37:03,186 --> 00:37:04,843 like one of those Crosleys, 874 00:37:04,877 --> 00:37:07,466 not the powder blue one, it was a different color. 875 00:37:08,743 --> 00:37:11,643 And he bought like The Postal Service "Give Up" record, 876 00:37:11,677 --> 00:37:12,540 [laughs] which is kinda funny to me 877 00:37:12,575 --> 00:37:13,852 that that's my first record 878 00:37:13,886 --> 00:37:15,163 'cause it's like kinda ridiculous. 879 00:37:15,198 --> 00:37:18,753 - More attention has been paid in recent years 880 00:37:18,788 --> 00:37:23,793 to reaching an audience where the default setting 881 00:37:25,070 --> 00:37:27,383 is not white dudes of a certain age. 882 00:37:27,417 --> 00:37:31,697 - I definitely think this second generation of record fans 883 00:37:31,732 --> 00:37:35,805 has maybe destigmatized the idea that everyone 884 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:39,705 that likes vinyl is this weird dude with a ponytail, 885 00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:42,536 kinda hangin' out listening to only vinyl. 886 00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:43,709 - When I first started 887 00:37:43,744 --> 00:37:45,470 and I would go to other people's houses, 888 00:37:45,504 --> 00:37:46,816 like their record player was something 889 00:37:46,850 --> 00:37:48,542 that only they could touch 890 00:37:48,576 --> 00:37:51,130 and now you're starting to see that kind of break down. 891 00:37:51,165 --> 00:37:53,754 - And now that it's kind of everywhere 892 00:37:53,788 --> 00:37:58,068 and really easy to order and really easy to come across, 893 00:37:58,103 --> 00:38:00,588 I think more and more people are starting 894 00:38:00,623 --> 00:38:01,831 to listen to vinyl. 895 00:38:02,797 --> 00:38:04,316 - [Billy] And you walk into a record store 896 00:38:04,351 --> 00:38:06,698 and you see families and little kids and men and women. 897 00:38:06,732 --> 00:38:09,494 It's literally not a bunch of old white guys like me. 898 00:38:09,528 --> 00:38:12,773 - People of all colors, all races, 899 00:38:12,807 --> 00:38:14,153 there's absolutely no way to tell 900 00:38:14,188 --> 00:38:17,191 when a person walks in the store what they're gonna buy. 901 00:38:17,225 --> 00:38:19,780 - As a kid, my parents didn't have a record player. 902 00:38:19,814 --> 00:38:21,091 I didn't have a turntable 903 00:38:21,126 --> 00:38:23,680 until I was out of college, really 904 00:38:23,715 --> 00:38:26,959 and that's when I started devotedly collecting records. 905 00:38:26,994 --> 00:38:29,824 [soft celestial music] 906 00:38:29,859 --> 00:38:32,586 So I started going out and seeing DJs playing vinyl 907 00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:34,346 and I thought, "I want to do that." 908 00:38:34,381 --> 00:38:36,521 I have really good records, I have good taste, 909 00:38:36,555 --> 00:38:39,109 why am I not seeing girls up there? 910 00:38:39,144 --> 00:38:42,009 Why do I not see myself up there? 911 00:38:42,043 --> 00:38:44,114 I knew that there were girls out there 912 00:38:44,149 --> 00:38:45,599 that wanted to learn how to DJ, 913 00:38:45,633 --> 00:38:47,463 they just didn't know how to start. 914 00:38:48,809 --> 00:38:50,500 So I wanted to create this platform 915 00:38:50,535 --> 00:38:53,779 for girls to get together to talk about records, 916 00:38:53,814 --> 00:38:58,025 to skill share and that's how Chulita Vinyl Club started. 917 00:38:58,059 --> 00:39:01,166 [lively music] 918 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,755 - I'd never seen women DJ up there before, 919 00:39:03,789 --> 00:39:06,447 so I was like if they could do, then I can do it, too. 920 00:39:07,966 --> 00:39:09,139 - We started with a couple of girls, 921 00:39:09,174 --> 00:39:11,176 two, three girls, including myself 922 00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:14,110 and at the moment we have about 55 girls 923 00:39:14,144 --> 00:39:16,492 in seven different cities. 924 00:39:16,526 --> 00:39:19,978 It's more than just teaching each other how to DJ 925 00:39:20,012 --> 00:39:22,118 or talking about records. 926 00:39:22,152 --> 00:39:24,051 Girls that have never met each other 927 00:39:24,085 --> 00:39:25,363 met at Chulita Vinyl Club 928 00:39:25,397 --> 00:39:28,055 and they're, you know, the best of friends now. 929 00:39:29,332 --> 00:39:31,714 - Everybody's got their own style and own flavor 930 00:39:31,748 --> 00:39:34,855 and I think that's part of the club, you know? 931 00:39:34,889 --> 00:39:37,202 - [Claudia] We have each other's backs. 932 00:39:37,236 --> 00:39:38,652 It's an awesome sisterhood. 933 00:39:41,137 --> 00:39:42,621 - Being able to hold the music 934 00:39:42,656 --> 00:39:45,348 that you're about to put on is really cool. 935 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:48,800 I didn't have a ton of physical music 936 00:39:49,835 --> 00:39:50,836 as a kid 937 00:39:50,871 --> 00:39:52,148 and then I had none 938 00:39:52,182 --> 00:39:54,806 as iTunes became a bigger part of my life. 939 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,842 - What happened in the late '90s, early 2000s, 940 00:39:56,877 --> 00:39:59,224 is that music became very passive. 941 00:39:59,258 --> 00:40:02,227 It became very easy to listen to it through your iPod, 942 00:40:02,261 --> 00:40:04,022 through your device, through your computer, 943 00:40:04,056 --> 00:40:04,816 through your laptop. 944 00:40:04,850 --> 00:40:06,542 - There was this sense 945 00:40:06,576 --> 00:40:08,923 that music was becoming evermore ephemeral 946 00:40:08,958 --> 00:40:12,686 and evermore portable and evermore sort of on the wind. 947 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,066 But at the same time, 948 00:40:14,101 --> 00:40:17,104 there were people who I think in reaction to that 949 00:40:17,138 --> 00:40:20,072 were also interested in having music 950 00:40:20,107 --> 00:40:21,764 that they could hold in their hands. 951 00:40:21,798 --> 00:40:24,905 - I like the ritual of putting a record on and sitting down. 952 00:40:24,939 --> 00:40:29,116 - I definitely like having the physical album 953 00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:32,464 in front of me, putting it on the turntable 954 00:40:32,499 --> 00:40:36,019 and really having that experience of doing nothing else 955 00:40:36,054 --> 00:40:38,125 but listening to that record. 956 00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:39,506 - And then having to kind of pay attention 957 00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:42,750 and go back 20 minutes later and flip the side. 958 00:40:42,785 --> 00:40:46,409 - There are people who are drawn to the inconvenience. 959 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:49,067 There are people who are drawn to inconvenience period 960 00:40:49,101 --> 00:40:52,380 because you feel like you're working for your art 961 00:40:52,415 --> 00:40:53,589 and 962 00:40:53,623 --> 00:40:56,384 streaming strips that away 963 00:40:56,419 --> 00:40:59,077 in the name of convenience and access. 964 00:40:59,111 --> 00:41:02,045 - Now you just bark out a command to some box in the corner 965 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,151 and it plays music for you. 966 00:41:04,185 --> 00:41:06,394 - Alexa, play rock music. 967 00:41:06,429 --> 00:41:07,499 - [Alexa] Rock music. 968 00:41:07,534 --> 00:41:08,845 [hard guitar music] 969 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,951 - I love walking down my hallway at home 970 00:41:10,985 --> 00:41:12,677 and there's just a big wall of records 971 00:41:12,711 --> 00:41:14,092 and I can look at them 972 00:41:14,126 --> 00:41:16,888 and remember the memories associated with them, 973 00:41:16,922 --> 00:41:19,787 like where I got this or this record came from my parents. 974 00:41:19,822 --> 00:41:21,479 - If you catch the bug early on, 975 00:41:21,513 --> 00:41:25,897 it sticks with you and it's a way to go back to a happier, 976 00:41:25,931 --> 00:41:28,209 you know, more innocent time. 977 00:41:28,244 --> 00:41:29,797 - It's like when you're young 978 00:41:29,832 --> 00:41:31,661 and you're discovering things for the first time, 979 00:41:33,525 --> 00:41:35,078 it's so great. 980 00:41:35,113 --> 00:41:38,288 - It's kind of ironic because vinyl is a nostalgic thing, 981 00:41:38,323 --> 00:41:40,601 but I also think it's novel to me 982 00:41:40,636 --> 00:41:44,778 as someone who thinks of music as a digital item. 983 00:41:46,676 --> 00:41:49,921 - When we are buying something we are defining ourselves, 984 00:41:49,955 --> 00:41:51,336 especially younger people. 985 00:41:51,370 --> 00:41:55,029 We're lookin' for ways to tell ourselves who we are. 986 00:41:55,064 --> 00:41:56,134 - "I'm a guy who listens 987 00:41:56,168 --> 00:41:58,032 to Faith No More's 'The Real Thing,'" 988 00:41:58,067 --> 00:41:59,724 and if you're that guy, 989 00:41:59,758 --> 00:42:02,036 every time you open your record cabinet 990 00:42:02,071 --> 00:42:03,348 and you see "The Real Thing," 991 00:42:03,382 --> 00:42:05,557 it's like that's the reflection of the person 992 00:42:05,592 --> 00:42:07,559 that you most idealize in yourself 993 00:42:07,594 --> 00:42:08,940 and you get to take that out 994 00:42:08,974 --> 00:42:11,632 and have this you know sacred event with it. 995 00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:13,013 At the end of the day you're listening 996 00:42:13,047 --> 00:42:14,048 to Faith No More's "The Real Thing," 997 00:42:14,083 --> 00:42:15,671 you're just going about it the long way. 998 00:42:15,705 --> 00:42:18,432 [soothing music] 999 00:42:18,466 --> 00:42:21,055 [wind rustling] 1000 00:42:22,678 --> 00:42:24,576 - My attraction to vinyl has been a combination 1001 00:42:24,611 --> 00:42:26,992 of good association from my childhood 1002 00:42:27,027 --> 00:42:30,478 and also I really like the art form of it, 1003 00:42:30,513 --> 00:42:33,309 that you can display a vinyl record. 1004 00:42:34,517 --> 00:42:35,967 This one 1005 00:42:37,934 --> 00:42:39,211 is special to me 1006 00:42:39,246 --> 00:42:41,731 because it's the very first album cover recreation 1007 00:42:41,766 --> 00:42:46,011 that I did, also it has A Tribe Called Quest break in it. 1008 00:42:46,046 --> 00:42:47,081 People ask me all the time 1009 00:42:47,116 --> 00:42:49,946 how I got started doing album cover recreations 1010 00:42:49,981 --> 00:42:52,155 and there's no real magical story to it. 1011 00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:55,055 It's just that I saw this at my parent's house, 1012 00:42:55,089 --> 00:42:58,921 my parents had at the time a huge orange tabby cat 1013 00:42:58,955 --> 00:43:01,993 and it just hit me like, "Oh, that'd be so funny 1014 00:43:02,027 --> 00:43:06,066 if I could put the cat in as the lion," and anyway. 1015 00:43:07,101 --> 00:43:08,724 It just started with that one 1016 00:43:08,758 --> 00:43:10,898 and I got such a huge reaction, 1017 00:43:10,933 --> 00:43:12,417 people thought it was so funny. 1018 00:43:12,451 --> 00:43:15,040 I was like, "Well if you like that, I'm gonna keep going. 1019 00:43:15,075 --> 00:43:17,353 I'll show you this and this and this." 1020 00:43:17,387 --> 00:43:19,769 I feel like I'm spreading knowledge 1021 00:43:19,804 --> 00:43:22,565 or spreading information about the record. 1022 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,673 I really pride myself on trying to write in the caption 1023 00:43:26,707 --> 00:43:30,469 something about the circumstances 1024 00:43:30,504 --> 00:43:32,057 under which that album was made. 1025 00:43:32,092 --> 00:43:35,820 So who was the producer, who played bass, who played guitar, 1026 00:43:35,854 --> 00:43:36,993 the photographer, too. 1027 00:43:37,925 --> 00:43:39,133 Like before this, 1028 00:43:39,168 --> 00:43:42,102 I had no real way to demonstrate my enthusiasm for music 1029 00:43:42,136 --> 00:43:43,482 because I'm not a musician, 1030 00:43:43,517 --> 00:43:45,864 I tried to be a DJ for a couple of years there, 1031 00:43:45,899 --> 00:43:47,314 but I'm not good at it. 1032 00:43:48,798 --> 00:43:50,179 I'm just a goofball. 1033 00:43:51,663 --> 00:43:53,354 It's just a perfect way to showcase my collection. 1034 00:43:53,389 --> 00:43:55,633 See, pretty convincing, right? 1035 00:43:56,668 --> 00:43:57,980 [laughs] 1036 00:43:58,014 --> 00:44:01,259 [upbeat guitar music] 1037 00:44:09,336 --> 00:44:12,753 - We never really stopped doing vinyl record jackets. 1038 00:44:12,788 --> 00:44:14,997 Did it come close to going away? 1039 00:44:15,031 --> 00:44:18,690 It did and then we saw it comin' back, 1040 00:44:18,725 --> 00:44:23,005 I would say about 12 years ago and it's just slowly grown. 1041 00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,248 One of the things I think that has done that 1042 00:44:25,283 --> 00:44:28,286 is people started making them a little bit more special. 1043 00:44:29,218 --> 00:44:31,358 Direct to board jackets, old style jackets, 1044 00:44:31,392 --> 00:44:35,155 12 inch, 10 inch, 7 inch, box sets 1045 00:44:35,189 --> 00:44:37,157 and lots of specialty items as well. 1046 00:44:40,850 --> 00:44:44,095 What we're kind of known for is we do old style jackets. 1047 00:44:44,129 --> 00:44:45,786 And what the old style jackets are 1048 00:44:45,821 --> 00:44:47,305 is they're printed on paper, 1049 00:44:47,339 --> 00:44:48,996 which is a little bit nicer to print on, 1050 00:44:49,031 --> 00:44:51,343 and then they're mounted to a gatefold blank. 1051 00:44:52,897 --> 00:44:56,176 They automatically get glue put on the backside of them 1052 00:44:56,210 --> 00:45:00,905 and then these blanks are hand mounted onto the sheets 1053 00:45:00,939 --> 00:45:04,287 and the front actually gets turned over 1054 00:45:05,772 --> 00:45:07,221 to the backside. 1055 00:45:07,256 --> 00:45:11,191 Once that's done, you now have the front, 1056 00:45:11,225 --> 00:45:14,815 what we call the cover and the liner side of the gatefold, 1057 00:45:14,850 --> 00:45:17,335 and then now this is what we call the inside spread. 1058 00:45:18,543 --> 00:45:20,027 So this is our smaller press. 1059 00:45:20,062 --> 00:45:24,722 This is a 29-inch Heidelberg, six color with a coater. 1060 00:45:25,861 --> 00:45:30,141 It prints around 8,000 sheets an hour. 1061 00:45:31,694 --> 00:45:33,247 Things are looking really good in our industry. 1062 00:45:33,282 --> 00:45:36,181 Not only is there more work to be done, 1063 00:45:36,216 --> 00:45:39,115 there's more really high-quality packaging to be done. 1064 00:45:39,150 --> 00:45:40,772 This is a flat sheet now, 1065 00:45:40,807 --> 00:45:42,740 but when we die cut, fold and glue, 1066 00:45:42,774 --> 00:45:44,465 this'll be a gatefold jacket. 1067 00:45:46,157 --> 00:45:48,366 I think people started making 'em special 1068 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,058 to get people to buy vinyl instead of downloading. 1069 00:45:51,093 --> 00:45:53,681 Before it was like a single record jacket, 1070 00:45:53,716 --> 00:45:55,407 four color process, single record jacket, 1071 00:45:55,442 --> 00:45:58,100 but now there's just so many special coatings 1072 00:45:58,134 --> 00:46:01,172 and foil stamping and embossing 1073 00:46:01,206 --> 00:46:03,657 and scented or textured coatings. 1074 00:46:03,691 --> 00:46:07,385 Just whatever you can think up, we'll make it on a jacket. 1075 00:46:07,419 --> 00:46:08,869 [lively music] 1076 00:46:08,904 --> 00:46:11,251 Customers will come to us with an idea 1077 00:46:11,285 --> 00:46:13,805 and 90% of the time we'll make it happen 1078 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,220 no matter what it is. 1079 00:46:15,255 --> 00:46:19,259 - Anytime you look at the mass introduction of a format, 1080 00:46:19,293 --> 00:46:20,570 and it's always been this way, 1081 00:46:20,605 --> 00:46:22,089 as it gets more and more accepted, 1082 00:46:22,124 --> 00:46:23,401 then you start to say, 1083 00:46:23,435 --> 00:46:25,610 "Okay, well how can we squeeze more profit 1084 00:46:25,644 --> 00:46:27,612 out of these things we're selling?" 1085 00:46:27,646 --> 00:46:31,443 So in the last throes of, you know, the '90s and the 2000s, 1086 00:46:31,478 --> 00:46:35,413 the packaging gets pulled back, the record gets pulled back. 1087 00:46:35,447 --> 00:46:37,242 It's a wonder any of them survived 1088 00:46:37,277 --> 00:46:39,003 any length of time out in the wild 1089 00:46:39,037 --> 00:46:42,178 because they were so thin and the jackets were so light 1090 00:46:42,213 --> 00:46:46,182 - But eventually people have the great idea, like QRP, 1091 00:46:46,217 --> 00:46:48,978 you know we'll let's do this, but let's really do it. 1092 00:46:49,013 --> 00:46:50,393 Let's make sure 1093 00:46:50,428 --> 00:46:51,981 that the temperature of the biscuit is just right. 1094 00:46:52,016 --> 00:46:53,396 Let's make sure the labels are always dead center. 1095 00:46:53,431 --> 00:46:55,674 Let's make sure that we have remastered the hell 1096 00:46:55,709 --> 00:46:56,952 out of this album 1097 00:46:56,986 --> 00:46:59,782 and that's where I think the maturity happened. 1098 00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:03,855 The average audiophile who would come into our stereo shop 1099 00:47:03,890 --> 00:47:06,409 was not asking for a music server or a CD player anymore, 1100 00:47:06,444 --> 00:47:08,273 they were asking for a turntable. 1101 00:47:08,308 --> 00:47:11,829 - The records are 180 gram, they're beautiful. 1102 00:47:11,863 --> 00:47:14,659 The whole outlay of the jacket is gorgeous. 1103 00:47:14,693 --> 00:47:17,351 It is a full sensory experience 1104 00:47:17,386 --> 00:47:18,974 that is incredibly rewarding. 1105 00:47:20,147 --> 00:47:23,702 - We always start with the vinyl package 1106 00:47:23,737 --> 00:47:27,534 and then the CD design will be based off of that. 1107 00:47:29,363 --> 00:47:33,471 - Probably my favorite physical album cover is, 1108 00:47:33,505 --> 00:47:37,199 it's one by The Format, it was called "Dog Problems" 1109 00:47:37,233 --> 00:47:39,546 and as you open the album, 1110 00:47:39,580 --> 00:47:42,860 like different sections of dogs kind of pop out. 1111 00:47:42,894 --> 00:47:44,137 - Probably one of the bigger things 1112 00:47:44,171 --> 00:47:47,485 that we're known for is nice deluxe packaging. 1113 00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:48,762 And you sit there and you read the liner notes, 1114 00:47:48,796 --> 00:47:50,488 you look at all the great photos 1115 00:47:50,522 --> 00:47:52,386 and you kind of follow along the story of the music 1116 00:47:52,421 --> 00:47:55,010 with the story in the book. 1117 00:47:55,044 --> 00:47:57,357 - The more special you can make the vinyl, 1118 00:47:57,391 --> 00:48:01,464 the more likely it is that people are gonna buy it. 1119 00:48:01,499 --> 00:48:06,504 You want to do limited, special packaging or colored vinyl. 1120 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,333 Don't tell anybody, 1121 00:48:09,610 --> 00:48:13,925 but colored vinyl doesn't sound as good. [laughs] 1122 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,171 - We try to anticipate, is there a novelty aspect 1123 00:48:18,205 --> 00:48:20,449 that makes sense to bring into this? 1124 00:48:20,483 --> 00:48:21,553 There's these little tricks 1125 00:48:21,588 --> 00:48:23,970 and these little sneaks that you learn about 1126 00:48:24,004 --> 00:48:26,869 and so you can have the groove on the record 1127 00:48:26,904 --> 00:48:29,389 start on the inside and play outward. 1128 00:48:31,287 --> 00:48:33,738 - Liquid-filled records and split color records, 1129 00:48:33,772 --> 00:48:35,671 a lot of things that we have done, 1130 00:48:35,705 --> 00:48:38,156 we've done together with the artist. 1131 00:48:38,191 --> 00:48:40,193 Perhaps the strangest of all those requests 1132 00:48:40,227 --> 00:48:42,540 and one that we were willing to manufacture the components, 1133 00:48:42,574 --> 00:48:44,507 but actually not complete the assembly 1134 00:48:44,542 --> 00:48:45,923 was a blood-filled record 1135 00:48:47,234 --> 00:48:50,203 for Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips. 1136 00:48:50,237 --> 00:48:53,102 - In elementary school we used to do these balloon launches 1137 00:48:53,137 --> 00:48:55,070 where everyone in the school got a helium balloon 1138 00:48:55,104 --> 00:48:57,900 and attached to it was a postcard with your name on it 1139 00:48:57,935 --> 00:48:59,212 and you let 'em go. 1140 00:48:59,246 --> 00:49:00,558 I remember some turning up 1141 00:49:00,592 --> 00:49:02,318 in New Hampshire, New England area. 1142 00:49:02,353 --> 00:49:06,115 Like wow, that's hundreds of miles, that's so insane. 1143 00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:07,461 So how can we do that with records? 1144 00:49:07,496 --> 00:49:08,807 So it's with great excitement 1145 00:49:08,842 --> 00:49:12,984 that we release Jack White's "Freedom at 21" on a flexi-disc 1146 00:49:13,019 --> 00:49:15,953 only available via helium balloon launch. 1147 00:49:15,987 --> 00:49:19,094 And we got hundreds upon hundreds of helium balloons 1148 00:49:19,128 --> 00:49:21,475 and we just let 'em go. 1149 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:22,787 I hope you can find one. 1150 00:49:25,134 --> 00:49:27,067 And they started showing up in people's yards, 1151 00:49:27,102 --> 00:49:28,413 people started putting 'em on Ebay, 1152 00:49:28,448 --> 00:49:31,796 people are paying $4,000 for a flexi-disc. 1153 00:49:31,830 --> 00:49:33,901 That, to us, was really, really cool. 1154 00:49:35,282 --> 00:49:37,871 [hopeful music] 1155 00:49:39,631 --> 00:49:43,463 - The toughest thing about opening a brand-new record store 1156 00:49:43,497 --> 00:49:47,467 is that there are already records at Walmart 1157 00:49:47,501 --> 00:49:48,951 and there are already records at Target 1158 00:49:48,986 --> 00:49:50,780 and there's loads of records at Amazon, 1159 00:49:50,815 --> 00:49:53,300 so you really have to offer something unique. 1160 00:49:54,508 --> 00:49:57,235 We try to have a very cool, sort of bohemian vibe 1161 00:49:58,685 --> 00:50:00,618 It sometimes feels like a temple 1162 00:50:00,652 --> 00:50:03,000 where somebody can come in and receive, 1163 00:50:03,034 --> 00:50:04,622 almost like a sacrament, 1164 00:50:04,656 --> 00:50:06,693 receive in the music that might be life-changing music 1165 00:50:06,727 --> 00:50:11,525 or might have extremely intimate relationships with them. 1166 00:50:12,043 --> 00:50:13,010 - [Kat] I will help you with that- 1167 00:50:13,044 --> 00:50:14,632 - [Customer] Do you know anything about this? 1168 00:50:14,666 --> 00:50:15,840 It's got all kinds of signatures all over it, 1169 00:50:15,874 --> 00:50:16,634 but was it anything? 1170 00:50:16,668 --> 00:50:18,256 - It's open? - Yeah, I mean- 1171 00:50:18,291 --> 00:50:21,501 - [Kat] Oh, this is a, oh, this is a Dwight record. 1172 00:50:21,535 --> 00:50:24,228 We bought it, well we got a collection from this guy- 1173 00:50:24,262 --> 00:50:26,540 - [Customer] Okay, I just love the inside with the pictures 1174 00:50:26,575 --> 00:50:27,610 and all that- 1175 00:50:27,645 --> 00:50:29,647 - He wrote, he wrote a lot of things on it. 1176 00:50:29,681 --> 00:50:30,820 We've been open for about six months. 1177 00:50:30,855 --> 00:50:34,031 We opened last October, so October 2018. 1178 00:50:35,515 --> 00:50:37,482 We're really picky about condition 1179 00:50:37,517 --> 00:50:39,967 and we try to source more unusual stuff, 1180 00:50:40,002 --> 00:50:42,211 usually European pressings. 1181 00:50:42,246 --> 00:50:44,731 Something that you would hear and you'd say, "What's this? 1182 00:50:44,765 --> 00:50:47,423 I need to have a copy of this." 1183 00:50:47,458 --> 00:50:49,494 We call ourselves a ma and pa store. 1184 00:50:49,529 --> 00:50:51,462 People come in, we tend to know people's names, 1185 00:50:51,496 --> 00:50:53,429 if we don't we'll ask you your name. 1186 00:50:54,603 --> 00:50:56,053 I've had mothers bring their daughters 1187 00:50:56,087 --> 00:51:00,505 and I feel like I'm sort of a safe shop for them to come to. 1188 00:51:00,540 --> 00:51:02,093 I try to be extremely nice and welcoming 1189 00:51:02,128 --> 00:51:04,544 to everybody who comes into the shop. 1190 00:51:04,578 --> 00:51:05,579 [bell jingles] Hello. 1191 00:51:06,718 --> 00:51:08,237 Don't mind us. - Okay. 1192 00:51:09,204 --> 00:51:10,136 - Hey there. 1193 00:51:14,554 --> 00:51:15,900 - In May of 2008, 1194 00:51:15,934 --> 00:51:18,040 I was left with a company that had a lot of issues 1195 00:51:18,075 --> 00:51:21,354 and we set out to reposition the company 1196 00:51:21,388 --> 00:51:25,427 to be in a place for the day when, lo and behold, 1197 00:51:25,461 --> 00:51:27,601 commercial vinyl started to grow again. 1198 00:51:27,636 --> 00:51:28,637 - All those independent labels 1199 00:51:28,671 --> 00:51:29,948 and independent artists continued 1200 00:51:29,983 --> 00:51:31,985 to make records in the dark ages, 1201 00:51:32,019 --> 00:51:33,780 but you would not have a comeback 1202 00:51:33,814 --> 00:51:36,196 without the majors being involved. 1203 00:51:36,231 --> 00:51:38,025 - I didn't know that this was gonna happen, 1204 00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:39,958 it didn't play out at all like I thought it would, 1205 00:51:39,993 --> 00:51:42,582 but fortunately it came together and worked out okay. 1206 00:51:45,447 --> 00:51:47,897 Building one is where it starts here, 1207 00:51:47,932 --> 00:51:50,762 we receive raw materials. 1208 00:51:52,212 --> 00:51:57,148 - [Billy] You need the records that millions of people want, 1209 00:51:57,183 --> 00:51:59,150 not tens of thousands of people want. 1210 00:52:00,462 --> 00:52:02,084 - So we've now entered building two, 1211 00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,776 which is where we actually manufacture the records. 1212 00:52:06,399 --> 00:52:09,609 - You'll have tens of thousands, possibly hundreds 1213 00:52:09,643 --> 00:52:12,612 of thousands of records pressed for that single title 1214 00:52:12,646 --> 00:52:14,821 and that makes a big difference at the manufacturing level. 1215 00:52:14,855 --> 00:52:16,857 It's just, it's a bigger deal. 1216 00:52:18,583 --> 00:52:21,034 - You've seen a generation that has discovered, 1217 00:52:21,068 --> 00:52:23,657 "Hey, this thing exists out there. 1218 00:52:23,692 --> 00:52:26,419 I love this artist," whether it's Taylor Swift 1219 00:52:26,453 --> 00:52:28,006 or whether it's The Allman Brothers. 1220 00:52:28,041 --> 00:52:31,078 Yes, I can stream it onto my phone, but this thing is real. 1221 00:52:31,113 --> 00:52:32,390 [bright music] 1222 00:52:32,425 --> 00:52:34,116 - "There's nothing new under the sun 1223 00:52:34,151 --> 00:52:36,981 and everything that's old will become new again." 1224 00:52:37,015 --> 00:52:40,674 I realized that's especially true about vinyl 1225 00:52:40,709 --> 00:52:44,644 when I started seeing like portable record players available 1226 00:52:44,678 --> 00:52:46,715 in places like Urban Outfitters 1227 00:52:46,749 --> 00:52:48,026 and they were in different colors, 1228 00:52:48,061 --> 00:52:51,029 I was like, "Oh, my God, it's become a trend." 1229 00:52:51,064 --> 00:52:53,135 ♪ I think I like you 1230 00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:54,861 ♪ I think you like me, too 1231 00:52:54,895 --> 00:52:56,794 - Urban Outfitters is not a record store, 1232 00:52:56,828 --> 00:52:58,623 we are a lifestyle store. 1233 00:52:58,658 --> 00:53:01,971 When we began in the vinyl business, 1234 00:53:02,006 --> 00:53:04,491 we were buying it more as a collectible piece, 1235 00:53:04,526 --> 00:53:06,459 or as a decorative piece. 1236 00:53:06,493 --> 00:53:09,186 And I'll never forget when a record came 1237 00:53:09,220 --> 00:53:10,532 and there was only one 1238 00:53:10,566 --> 00:53:12,119 and it was the weirdest thing being in the store 1239 00:53:12,154 --> 00:53:13,742 is getting one record because you were like, 1240 00:53:13,776 --> 00:53:15,985 "Well A, where is this supposed to go? 1241 00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:17,884 And B, who's gonna ever need vinyl?" 1242 00:53:17,918 --> 00:53:20,231 - I got this from Urban Outfitters 1243 00:53:20,266 --> 00:53:21,715 and I will have a full review 1244 00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:24,891 on the actual record player itself on my blog. 1245 00:53:24,925 --> 00:53:26,755 - [Becky] As the industry has grown, 1246 00:53:26,789 --> 00:53:30,310 we're seeing it also as a way to listen to your music 1247 00:53:30,345 --> 00:53:32,174 on top of also being a collectible. 1248 00:53:33,658 --> 00:53:36,385 One of our top-selling artists is Billie Eilish. 1249 00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:38,836 Just like her, I think what we service 1250 00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:41,597 is that 17-year-old girl that's like experiencing 1251 00:53:41,632 --> 00:53:45,325 and getting to know how amazing it is to own vinyl. 1252 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,397 - Let's see what the pressing looks like. 1253 00:53:48,432 --> 00:53:51,642 Oh, my God it is like white. 1254 00:53:51,676 --> 00:53:54,472 - One of the coolest moments of me ever buying music 1255 00:53:55,715 --> 00:53:57,889 [laughs] was when we released Britney Spears on vinyl. 1256 00:53:59,443 --> 00:54:01,548 When that came out there was just so much press about it 1257 00:54:01,583 --> 00:54:03,826 and so many fans that were so excited 1258 00:54:03,861 --> 00:54:07,347 that they were finally able to really own that album 1259 00:54:07,382 --> 00:54:09,763 in a bigger way than just the CD format. 1260 00:54:09,798 --> 00:54:11,765 - So this what the babe looks like. 1261 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,146 She's a big girl. 1262 00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:15,907 - Our consumer base is typically 18-26 years old, 1263 00:54:15,942 --> 00:54:17,737 so they don't have a lot of disposable income 1264 00:54:17,771 --> 00:54:20,671 and so we find it important to offer them 1265 00:54:20,705 --> 00:54:22,983 that entry-level turntable 1266 00:54:23,018 --> 00:54:24,675 and Crosley's always been a great product 1267 00:54:24,709 --> 00:54:25,745 for that price point. 1268 00:54:28,299 --> 00:54:31,095 [car engines hum] 1269 00:54:32,683 --> 00:54:34,719 - Crosley's provided more turntables 1270 00:54:34,754 --> 00:54:38,033 than anyone else has in the last 10 years. 1271 00:54:38,067 --> 00:54:39,931 [buoyant music] 1272 00:54:39,966 --> 00:54:41,450 When we first started, 1273 00:54:41,485 --> 00:54:44,142 we were mainly servicing people who grew up with vinyl 1274 00:54:44,177 --> 00:54:46,421 and they just wanted to experience it again. 1275 00:54:48,423 --> 00:54:53,117 We started selling Target in 2006, 2007, Urban Outfitters. 1276 00:54:53,151 --> 00:54:56,776 Then we decided to expand outside of just retro 1277 00:54:56,810 --> 00:54:58,295 and make it more fashion based. 1278 00:54:58,329 --> 00:55:02,022 - It introduced a whole new generation 1279 00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:04,922 to vinyl 1280 00:55:04,956 --> 00:55:07,718 and a large percentage of these new listeners are female. 1281 00:55:07,752 --> 00:55:09,202 - [Blogger] I was really debating 1282 00:55:09,236 --> 00:55:11,204 getting the blue or the pink, 1283 00:55:11,238 --> 00:55:14,103 but the blue, in the end, matched my room better. 1284 00:55:15,588 --> 00:55:18,487 - All of the finishes are this light blue color 1285 00:55:18,522 --> 00:55:21,179 and my record player happens to also be a light blue. 1286 00:55:21,214 --> 00:55:23,975 I wouldn't be surprised if the record player was kind of 1287 00:55:24,010 --> 00:55:25,770 in the back of my head going, 1288 00:55:25,805 --> 00:55:28,946 "I would look so good in the apartment." [laughs] 1289 00:55:28,980 --> 00:55:31,638 - People are using our products 1290 00:55:31,673 --> 00:55:34,434 as like an extension of their personality. 1291 00:55:34,469 --> 00:55:35,642 So when you 1292 00:55:36,781 --> 00:55:39,784 search #crosley on Instagram, 1293 00:55:39,819 --> 00:55:42,028 you're gonna see a lot of Crosley shrines. 1294 00:55:42,062 --> 00:55:47,067 There's the Crosley turntable, suitcase-style flipped open, 1295 00:55:48,414 --> 00:55:50,381 cool piece of like mid-century modern furniture. 1296 00:55:50,416 --> 00:55:54,765 There's twinkly lights and like there's always succulents, 1297 00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:56,767 you can't forget succulents. 1298 00:55:56,801 --> 00:55:58,078 So many succulents. 1299 00:56:01,703 --> 00:56:06,190 I don't know that like Gen Z necessarily 1300 00:56:07,502 --> 00:56:09,883 thinks of it as like an old medium. 1301 00:56:09,918 --> 00:56:13,853 My daughter doesn't even know what a CD is, 1302 00:56:13,887 --> 00:56:15,889 but she has a turntable. 1303 00:56:15,924 --> 00:56:18,789 She has a small vinyl collection of like 15 albums, 1304 00:56:18,823 --> 00:56:20,825 mostly Disney. 1305 00:56:20,860 --> 00:56:23,310 You know I had to teach her, "Here's the cueing lever, 1306 00:56:23,345 --> 00:56:24,553 and like drop it manually. 1307 00:56:24,588 --> 00:56:26,762 Like always use this to drop it slowly. 1308 00:56:26,797 --> 00:56:28,557 Always hold the record like this." 1309 00:56:28,592 --> 00:56:32,596 From a young age, she picked up on it super quick. 1310 00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:34,149 - That's pretty much everything, kids. 1311 00:56:34,183 --> 00:56:37,324 Have fun collecting records. 1312 00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:38,533 [sweet guitar music] 1313 00:56:38,567 --> 00:56:41,259 - She just thinks it's always been here 1314 00:56:41,294 --> 00:56:43,434 or it's like this new cool thing, 1315 00:56:43,469 --> 00:56:45,022 which it is a new cool thing. 1316 00:56:50,890 --> 00:56:53,237 - Vinyl can really help you with parenting 1317 00:56:53,271 --> 00:56:56,205 in that being able to talk about music, 1318 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:59,519 hear music and tell a story about an album 1319 00:56:59,554 --> 00:57:03,799 or a period of time, it gives you really nice inroads. 1320 00:57:05,042 --> 00:57:07,769 And I think when you're physically connecting, 1321 00:57:07,803 --> 00:57:09,736 when you're touching something, 1322 00:57:09,771 --> 00:57:11,807 it forges more connection for you 1323 00:57:11,842 --> 00:57:13,947 because you pause and you're talking to each other 1324 00:57:13,982 --> 00:57:16,122 and you're listening to each other in a different way. 1325 00:57:17,813 --> 00:57:20,954 Sunday vinyl is a family tradition 1326 00:57:20,989 --> 00:57:22,542 so I get up in the morning 1327 00:57:22,577 --> 00:57:26,512 and I play whatever the week has been 1328 00:57:26,546 --> 00:57:30,550 and then at dinnertime I play a few records 1329 00:57:30,585 --> 00:57:34,002 that are gonna take us into our next week. 1330 00:57:35,521 --> 00:57:40,284 If it's a blues record, folk music or a jazz record, 1331 00:57:40,318 --> 00:57:42,079 I'm giving something to them. 1332 00:57:43,321 --> 00:57:44,978 [lively dance music] 1333 00:57:45,013 --> 00:57:47,981 We have this day together and we have this time together 1334 00:57:48,016 --> 00:57:50,846 and it's our version of church. 1335 00:57:52,848 --> 00:57:55,472 [brakes squeal] 1336 00:57:56,542 --> 00:57:59,993 - My dad and I, we collect records together 1337 00:58:00,028 --> 00:58:05,033 and it's kinda like a father-son activity that we do. 1338 00:58:05,965 --> 00:58:09,796 I think on this side is like opera, 1339 00:58:09,831 --> 00:58:12,937 maybe, I think, over here is like jazz 1340 00:58:12,972 --> 00:58:16,907 and maybe some early stuff, like '50s, like early '60s. 1341 00:58:16,941 --> 00:58:21,946 Then in the middle it's all this rock because we love rock. 1342 00:58:23,776 --> 00:58:26,295 It's a good thing to discover, like, 1343 00:58:26,330 --> 00:58:29,885 things that I didn't really live, but other people lived. 1344 00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:31,956 Vinyl's still around, 1345 00:58:31,991 --> 00:58:34,580 but like typewriters aren't around anymore. 1346 00:58:36,133 --> 00:58:39,999 Like dialing phones, where you dial stuff, 1347 00:58:40,033 --> 00:58:41,483 those kinda died out. 1348 00:58:41,518 --> 00:58:44,900 Like regular dancing, like ballroom dancing, 1349 00:58:44,935 --> 00:58:47,006 like that really died out. 1350 00:58:48,007 --> 00:58:50,941 This is usually where we put our new stuff, 1351 00:58:50,975 --> 00:58:55,532 like when we go to a record store or swap, 1352 00:58:57,603 --> 00:59:00,571 we put the things here, David Bowie. 1353 00:59:01,745 --> 00:59:04,230 Sometimes I'm in the middle of school 1354 00:59:04,264 --> 00:59:06,335 and like everybody singin' this new pop song 1355 00:59:06,370 --> 00:59:10,063 and I'm like, "Gosh, I feel old." 1356 00:59:10,098 --> 00:59:14,827 Most of the time I'm like this is the right kind of music. 1357 00:59:17,588 --> 00:59:19,590 [frenzied glam rock] 1358 00:59:19,625 --> 00:59:24,664 ♪ So where were the spiders 1359 00:59:25,872 --> 00:59:29,980 ♪ While the flies tried to break our balls ♪ 1360 00:59:30,912 --> 00:59:32,189 At the record swap, 1361 00:59:32,223 --> 00:59:34,363 a lot of the people there were like to my dad, 1362 00:59:34,398 --> 00:59:38,954 "Wow, you did a really good job raising this kid. 1363 00:59:38,989 --> 00:59:43,269 Like he likes what we like, not this new modern pop." 1364 00:59:44,753 --> 00:59:49,137 - In the past, I would have probably been too self-conscious 1365 00:59:50,207 --> 00:59:52,105 to even say what I'm into 1366 00:59:52,140 --> 00:59:55,384 because, oh, you're just gonna get ripped on 1367 00:59:55,419 --> 00:59:56,627 for what you're looking for. 1368 00:59:56,662 --> 00:59:58,077 "Oh, you're just lookin' for garage records? 1369 00:59:58,111 --> 00:59:59,941 Okay whatever, little kid," you know. 1370 00:59:59,975 --> 01:00:01,701 "Tell me when you start liking psychedelic," 1371 01:00:01,736 --> 01:00:03,047 or something like that. 1372 01:00:03,082 --> 01:00:06,085 That would be my impression of the old record show, 1373 01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:09,778 but now it's way more inviting and convivial 1374 01:00:09,813 --> 01:00:12,022 and very, very warming I would say. 1375 01:00:13,195 --> 01:00:14,783 [car engines hum] [upbeat music] 1376 01:00:14,818 --> 01:00:17,130 There are still people who are exclusive about it, 1377 01:00:17,165 --> 01:00:19,201 but they had to realize at some point 1378 01:00:19,236 --> 01:00:21,376 it was either you be inclusive 1379 01:00:21,410 --> 01:00:23,827 or you don't have anyone to sell to. 1380 01:00:28,694 --> 01:00:31,938 - It's been really fun to grow up with the show. 1381 01:00:31,973 --> 01:00:33,940 When I was five years old, I was running around here 1382 01:00:33,975 --> 01:00:36,253 under the tables reading comic books. 1383 01:00:36,287 --> 01:00:38,255 My dad started it in 1981 1384 01:00:38,289 --> 01:00:39,428 and I've sort of been helping out more 1385 01:00:39,463 --> 01:00:40,809 and more the older I got. 1386 01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:45,711 - I'm 45, so I've been doing this for 30 years basically. 1387 01:00:45,745 --> 01:00:49,266 So I've seen every permutation of every job you can have 1388 01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:50,992 in the Austin Record Convention. 1389 01:00:51,026 --> 01:00:52,372 Once I graduated high school, 1390 01:00:52,407 --> 01:00:55,168 I started working at convention headquarters 1391 01:00:55,203 --> 01:00:59,000 and you know we basically run it now. 1392 01:00:59,034 --> 01:01:00,726 - Attention, we're about 15 minutes 1393 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,589 from general admission starting. 1394 01:01:02,624 --> 01:01:05,247 As you can see, there's a lot of people still in a line 1395 01:01:05,282 --> 01:01:07,077 and we've been open for five or six hours, 1396 01:01:07,111 --> 01:01:09,596 so it's pretty incredible. 1397 01:01:09,631 --> 01:01:14,153 - This is one of the biggest shows we've had in a long time. 1398 01:01:14,187 --> 01:01:17,570 We have more dealers than we've had in a lot of years. 1399 01:01:21,125 --> 01:01:23,541 I think it's gonna be a great show for everybody. 1400 01:01:23,576 --> 01:01:25,751 - I want the dealers to be able to make money 1401 01:01:25,785 --> 01:01:27,097 and have a successful show 1402 01:01:27,131 --> 01:01:28,719 and I want the customers to come and be able to spend money 1403 01:01:28,754 --> 01:01:30,169 and be happy with sort of what they're spending 1404 01:01:30,203 --> 01:01:31,722 and what they got for it. 1405 01:01:31,757 --> 01:01:35,692 Like do you want to buy 10-$5 records or one-$50 record? 1406 01:01:36,589 --> 01:01:37,383 - [Meagan] Yes. 1407 01:01:38,556 --> 01:01:39,454 - [Customer] And it's sealed. 1408 01:01:39,488 --> 01:01:40,213 - [Meagan] And it's sealed. 1409 01:01:40,248 --> 01:01:41,145 Thank you very much. 1410 01:01:41,180 --> 01:01:44,355 And it is a DJ promo copy. 1411 01:01:45,736 --> 01:01:47,738 Thanks so much. - Thank you. 1412 01:01:47,773 --> 01:01:49,533 - That's how you sell a $400 record. 1413 01:01:51,604 --> 01:01:54,365 - We were told that this biggest record fair in the world. 1414 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,266 Big stuff, good prices, nice people, nice city. 1415 01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:00,993 - Nice city, yeah, beautiful city. 1416 01:02:01,027 --> 01:02:02,235 - [Nathan] You know hardcore record collectors 1417 01:02:02,270 --> 01:02:04,410 are still a core demographic, you know, 1418 01:02:04,444 --> 01:02:07,206 and no matter what corner of the world they come from 1419 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,207 or what their background is, 1420 01:02:08,241 --> 01:02:09,691 they have a lot in common with each other. 1421 01:02:09,726 --> 01:02:11,762 - I spent enough time in Vietnam 1422 01:02:11,797 --> 01:02:13,074 that I've earned the right to do 1423 01:02:13,108 --> 01:02:15,697 just about what the heck I want to do. 1424 01:02:15,732 --> 01:02:18,217 I paid like three grand for one just the other day, 1425 01:02:18,251 --> 01:02:19,805 for one record. 1426 01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:22,359 - I have been coming to the Austin Record Convention 1427 01:02:22,393 --> 01:02:24,050 since 1985. 1428 01:02:24,085 --> 01:02:26,570 - I'm a veteran, 30 years, plus. 1429 01:02:26,604 --> 01:02:28,330 Love it here, love it. 1430 01:02:28,365 --> 01:02:30,712 - I see a lot of old faces every year 1431 01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:31,955 at the Austin Record Convention, 1432 01:02:31,989 --> 01:02:35,579 but we see a lot of new younger kids, 1433 01:02:35,613 --> 01:02:37,132 we see a lot of people in their 20s, 1434 01:02:37,167 --> 01:02:39,479 we see a lot of parents bringing their little kids, 1435 01:02:39,514 --> 01:02:41,102 which is awesome. 1436 01:02:41,136 --> 01:02:44,105 - Andrea's first record was the new Kacey Musgraves album. 1437 01:02:44,139 --> 01:02:47,591 I'm hoping that she'll have some stuff to like look back on 1438 01:02:47,625 --> 01:02:49,282 and like you know cherish, 1439 01:02:49,317 --> 01:02:50,180 like collector's items and things like that. 1440 01:02:50,214 --> 01:02:51,595 - It's a generational thing now. 1441 01:02:51,629 --> 01:02:53,217 There's more women involved 1442 01:02:53,252 --> 01:02:55,737 and they're bringing their children and their moms, 1443 01:02:55,772 --> 01:02:56,911 which is great. 1444 01:02:56,945 --> 01:02:59,568 I wholeheartedly endorse that. [laughs] 1445 01:02:59,603 --> 01:03:00,984 - I have a big time soft spot for younger people 1446 01:03:01,018 --> 01:03:03,607 who are into it, especially kids, you know, 1447 01:03:03,641 --> 01:03:05,264 and if somebody's a newbie. 1448 01:03:05,298 --> 01:03:06,575 We absolutely love that. 1449 01:03:06,610 --> 01:03:07,818 - We are new record people, 1450 01:03:07,853 --> 01:03:09,406 we've been doin' this for six months 1451 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,822 and it has been absolutely phenomenal. 1452 01:03:11,857 --> 01:03:14,342 - I didn't believe until I heard the difference, so. 1453 01:03:15,861 --> 01:03:17,310 - Well I think it's about how much fun vinyl is, 1454 01:03:17,345 --> 01:03:19,140 how much fun it is to shop for, 1455 01:03:19,174 --> 01:03:20,244 how much fun it it to like meet people 1456 01:03:20,279 --> 01:03:22,384 who are into the things you're into. 1457 01:03:22,419 --> 01:03:23,592 - I started collectin' records 1458 01:03:23,627 --> 01:03:25,387 when I was about eight years old. 1459 01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:30,427 Needless to say, 20,000 records later, it's a disease. 1460 01:03:30,461 --> 01:03:32,463 - There is an endless world of records 1461 01:03:32,498 --> 01:03:34,431 and that's what's like so appealing to me. 1462 01:03:34,465 --> 01:03:38,573 It's cool to be like accepted by that community 1463 01:03:38,607 --> 01:03:41,438 and to be like, you know, a younger girl who sells records. 1464 01:03:41,472 --> 01:03:44,337 - My daughter's here and Nathan's daughter's here 1465 01:03:44,372 --> 01:03:46,270 and she could have gone to a sleepover 1466 01:03:46,305 --> 01:03:49,756 and she was like, "No, I don't miss the record convention." 1467 01:03:49,791 --> 01:03:53,105 And I'm like, "Okay, well great, you're here with us." 1468 01:03:53,139 --> 01:03:54,382 - You know I don't always take the time 1469 01:03:54,416 --> 01:03:56,073 to kind of ponder how beautiful it is, 1470 01:03:56,108 --> 01:03:58,627 but it feels like a reunion in many ways. 1471 01:03:58,662 --> 01:04:00,215 We have people 1472 01:04:00,250 --> 01:04:01,458 who are actually all from different areas of life, 1473 01:04:01,492 --> 01:04:02,355 different ages, different backgrounds, 1474 01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:03,701 but when it comes to this thing, 1475 01:04:03,736 --> 01:04:06,566 we're kind of mostly on the same page already. 1476 01:04:06,601 --> 01:04:07,878 - This is a good one? - Yeah. 1477 01:04:07,913 --> 01:04:08,983 - Let's see. - That's where I would go. 1478 01:04:09,017 --> 01:04:09,846 I'll play it for you. 1479 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,640 - Oh, yeah, if you don't mind. 1480 01:04:14,298 --> 01:04:15,368 - This is the beauty of it for me, 1481 01:04:15,403 --> 01:04:18,095 to talk to people and to do what we're doin' now. 1482 01:04:18,130 --> 01:04:20,442 Just talk about records, talk about music. 1483 01:04:20,477 --> 01:04:23,376 [light jazz music] 1484 01:04:26,932 --> 01:04:28,140 Just take a few minutes. 1485 01:04:28,174 --> 01:04:30,763 It's like wine, you get the bouquet, 1486 01:04:32,938 --> 01:04:36,424 you sip, you listen, the next thing you know... 1487 01:04:36,458 --> 01:04:38,184 Ho! What was that? 1488 01:04:38,219 --> 01:04:39,427 Surprise. 1489 01:04:39,461 --> 01:04:42,050 - For me vinyl's like something that has been in my life 1490 01:04:42,085 --> 01:04:44,294 since I was really small and like, 1491 01:04:48,125 --> 01:04:49,471 [laughs] it's weird, 1492 01:04:49,506 --> 01:04:50,817 I don't really think about this too much, 1493 01:04:50,852 --> 01:04:54,925 but it's just been something that I've had around me 1494 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,479 and it's connected people forever. 1495 01:04:57,514 --> 01:05:00,517 - You put that back in the sleeve, that's your album. 1496 01:05:00,551 --> 01:05:02,484 - Awesome, thank you so much. 1497 01:05:02,519 --> 01:05:04,521 Have a good one. - You, too, man. 1498 01:05:05,418 --> 01:05:08,628 [customers murmuring] 1499 01:05:11,942 --> 01:05:14,531 - I am worried that the music industry, 1500 01:05:14,565 --> 01:05:16,429 the people at the big labels, 1501 01:05:16,464 --> 01:05:19,191 are gonna make a huge mistake again 1502 01:05:19,225 --> 01:05:20,951 the same way they did with CDs. 1503 01:05:20,986 --> 01:05:24,334 They've got kids excited about it 1504 01:05:24,368 --> 01:05:26,439 and you go to buy a reissue record that, 1505 01:05:26,474 --> 01:05:30,616 10 years ago, was $11 or $12, it's now $30 1506 01:05:30,650 --> 01:05:34,689 to buy a new copy of a Beatles record or whatever. 1507 01:05:34,723 --> 01:05:37,450 - Now when I'm a college student I have more expenses 1508 01:05:37,485 --> 01:05:39,901 than just coffee on the weekends. 1509 01:05:39,936 --> 01:05:42,145 If it gets up to the $30 price point, 1510 01:05:42,179 --> 01:05:44,354 I definitely think more about it. 1511 01:05:44,388 --> 01:05:48,220 - I do try to budget with each paycheck. 1512 01:05:48,254 --> 01:05:52,051 I always go over budget, but I have good intentions. 1513 01:05:52,086 --> 01:05:53,604 - What you have to look at is 1514 01:05:53,639 --> 01:05:55,399 by selling this piece of music, 1515 01:05:55,434 --> 01:05:57,470 is the artist being compensated correctly, 1516 01:05:57,505 --> 01:05:59,610 are we actually making the margin that we need as a company 1517 01:05:59,645 --> 01:06:02,441 to keep all of our lights on and keep the people employed, 1518 01:06:02,475 --> 01:06:05,582 and is there enough margin leftover for a record store 1519 01:06:05,616 --> 01:06:07,411 or a retailer of any sort 1520 01:06:07,446 --> 01:06:09,793 to be able to derive the margin they need? 1521 01:06:09,827 --> 01:06:12,347 As long as you're accounting for those three things 1522 01:06:12,382 --> 01:06:15,385 then what you price it at is appropriate. 1523 01:06:15,419 --> 01:06:17,766 - There's so many costs that go into these things 1524 01:06:17,801 --> 01:06:21,287 'cause it is sort of a bespoke artisan-type thing 1525 01:06:21,322 --> 01:06:23,013 that I think people might get angry about something 1526 01:06:23,048 --> 01:06:24,394 or "Why is it so expensive?" 1527 01:06:24,428 --> 01:06:26,430 And you know it's because it costs a lot of money 1528 01:06:26,465 --> 01:06:28,467 to make these things this way. 1529 01:06:28,501 --> 01:06:30,331 [fans murmuring] 1530 01:06:30,365 --> 01:06:32,505 - People take for granted that you must have paid nothin' 1531 01:06:32,540 --> 01:06:34,438 and you're charging too much for things 1532 01:06:34,473 --> 01:06:37,338 and that's just sort of a general view 1533 01:06:37,372 --> 01:06:38,995 that a lot of customers have. 1534 01:06:39,029 --> 01:06:41,445 - When you put in foil stamping and individual numbering 1535 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,826 and it's 180 gram vinyl 1536 01:06:42,860 --> 01:06:44,586 and you actually did full analog mastering, 1537 01:06:44,621 --> 01:06:47,451 like all of these things add cost 1538 01:06:47,486 --> 01:06:49,384 into every single record that you make 1539 01:06:49,419 --> 01:06:52,387 and the margins have to stay the same, 1540 01:06:52,422 --> 01:06:54,527 that means all the pricing has to go up. 1541 01:06:54,562 --> 01:06:59,291 - In 1977, a $10 record would be $35 today. 1542 01:06:59,325 --> 01:07:02,156 We are not charging more for records now. 1543 01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:03,571 - But are the majors, though, horrible, evil people? 1544 01:07:03,605 --> 01:07:07,126 Yeah, sure, yeah, oh yeah we're terrible, we're mean. 1545 01:07:07,161 --> 01:07:08,507 ♪ You make me feel like 1546 01:07:08,541 --> 01:07:12,580 - As more and more people started making vinyl again, 1547 01:07:12,614 --> 01:07:13,926 including the major labels, 1548 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,239 you know, reissuing Beatles records, 1549 01:07:16,273 --> 01:07:19,518 our timelines had to get way longer. 1550 01:07:19,552 --> 01:07:22,072 When it comes to you know a punk band in Berkeley 1551 01:07:22,107 --> 01:07:24,178 that's trying to get their 7 inch out 1552 01:07:24,212 --> 01:07:28,354 and they're you know a year out of being able to do that 1553 01:07:28,389 --> 01:07:31,495 because you have like a million "Lego Movie" LPs 1554 01:07:31,530 --> 01:07:34,498 that are like, whatever. 1555 01:07:34,533 --> 01:07:35,465 No shade. 1556 01:07:35,499 --> 01:07:37,570 ♪ Everything is awesome 1557 01:07:37,605 --> 01:07:38,399 But whatever. 1558 01:07:39,745 --> 01:07:42,058 - There's always going to be a backlog at the plants 1559 01:07:42,092 --> 01:07:43,956 that make the best records 1560 01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:45,647 that take the longest time to make. 1561 01:07:45,682 --> 01:07:47,511 A lot of times I'll get into conversations 1562 01:07:47,546 --> 01:07:49,582 with people about, "Well can you make this faster?" 1563 01:07:49,617 --> 01:07:51,205 I was like, "Well, no, 1564 01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:52,620 because then you're outside the space-time continuum." 1565 01:07:52,654 --> 01:07:54,242 It was like this is physics, 1566 01:07:54,277 --> 01:07:57,211 like it takes a certain number of seconds to make a record. 1567 01:07:57,245 --> 01:08:01,905 [soft music] [car engines hum] 1568 01:08:01,939 --> 01:08:04,908 - I was in the studio and I was like really busy 1569 01:08:04,942 --> 01:08:07,600 'cause I was doing tech work before the band started 1570 01:08:07,635 --> 01:08:10,534 and I was like, "Okay, I gotta call QRP 1571 01:08:10,569 --> 01:08:13,089 and set up the order for my record coming out." 1572 01:08:13,123 --> 01:08:16,230 So I Googled on my phone, QRP 1573 01:08:16,264 --> 01:08:18,163 and I just hit the button, called them 1574 01:08:18,197 --> 01:08:19,888 and I was like, "Hey, my name is John Vanderslice, 1575 01:08:19,923 --> 01:08:22,236 I've had a few orders with you in the past. 1576 01:08:22,270 --> 01:08:23,616 I just wanted to see about lag time 1577 01:08:23,651 --> 01:08:25,411 and maybe setting up an order." 1578 01:08:25,446 --> 01:08:27,448 And so they're like, "Okay, let me put you on hold." 1579 01:08:27,482 --> 01:08:29,277 So they put me on hold, they came back and they said, 1580 01:08:29,312 --> 01:08:31,555 "Yeah, we see a few orders for you." 1581 01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:33,350 "Well do you see my quantity 1582 01:08:33,385 --> 01:08:35,559 for the last record, 'Dagger Beach,' I think it was 2,000?" 1583 01:08:35,594 --> 01:08:37,561 "Hold on, let me put you on hold." 1584 01:08:37,596 --> 01:08:39,977 It was like, man, they don't seem to know anything 1585 01:08:40,012 --> 01:08:41,427 about vinyl production. 1586 01:08:41,462 --> 01:08:44,741 I'm asking them basic questions about like scheduling 1587 01:08:44,775 --> 01:08:46,777 and minimums and who does the plating and et cetera. 1588 01:08:46,812 --> 01:08:48,641 And then I was like, "Okay, I'm gonna call you back," 1589 01:08:48,676 --> 01:08:49,746 it just got confusing. 1590 01:08:49,780 --> 01:08:52,645 And then I hung up and maybe a minute later, 1591 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,751 someone called me and it was a different person 1592 01:08:54,785 --> 01:08:55,683 and it was a guy 1593 01:08:55,717 --> 01:08:58,755 who sounded like kinda car salesman-y. 1594 01:08:58,789 --> 01:09:00,136 Scammy. 1595 01:09:00,170 --> 01:09:02,552 And he's like, "Hey, so I just wanted to clear up, 1596 01:09:02,586 --> 01:09:04,001 so did you want to place an order?" 1597 01:09:04,036 --> 01:09:05,727 And I was like, "Who is this?" 1598 01:09:05,762 --> 01:09:07,660 They're like, "You just called us." 1599 01:09:07,695 --> 01:09:09,800 And I was like, "Why are you calling me?" 1600 01:09:09,835 --> 01:09:12,976 He's like, "Well I was listening in to the phone call." 1601 01:09:13,010 --> 01:09:16,290 No shit. And that's when it hit me, I was like oh, my God. 1602 01:09:16,324 --> 01:09:19,258 I looked at my phone, I was calling a scam company 1603 01:09:19,293 --> 01:09:21,329 and they were pretending to be QRP. 1604 01:09:21,364 --> 01:09:22,641 They knew what I was doing. 1605 01:09:22,675 --> 01:09:27,784 They're lying to me and saying that they saw my orders. 1606 01:09:28,647 --> 01:09:30,442 It was fucking crazy, it was amazing. 1607 01:09:30,476 --> 01:09:33,790 This is in vinyl production. 1608 01:09:33,824 --> 01:09:35,447 Think about this, 1609 01:09:35,481 --> 01:09:36,965 most of these motherfuckers don't even own a turntable, 1610 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,898 so scammers everywhere. 1611 01:09:39,692 --> 01:09:42,626 This is like so typical. 1612 01:09:42,661 --> 01:09:45,215 - The record boom definitely has messed up, 1613 01:09:45,250 --> 01:09:46,803 at some points, the quality. 1614 01:09:48,322 --> 01:09:51,773 For example off center, meaning that the grooves, 1615 01:09:51,808 --> 01:09:53,292 instead of the record needle playing 1616 01:09:53,327 --> 01:09:54,776 and just kind of tracking like this, 1617 01:09:54,811 --> 01:09:57,641 it goes woo, woo, [laughs] you know. 1618 01:09:57,676 --> 01:10:00,334 [sound wavering] 1619 01:10:02,267 --> 01:10:03,440 You know a lot of people, I guess, 1620 01:10:03,475 --> 01:10:05,270 really aren't playing or opening 'em 1621 01:10:05,304 --> 01:10:06,892 or they're not that picky. 1622 01:10:06,926 --> 01:10:08,825 - I despise buying a brand new record, 1623 01:10:08,859 --> 01:10:11,345 putting it on the turntable and having it be warped, 1624 01:10:11,379 --> 01:10:13,657 defective or otherwise made in a way 1625 01:10:13,692 --> 01:10:16,522 that is not up to standards that I would expect. 1626 01:10:16,557 --> 01:10:17,799 I'm not suggesting 1627 01:10:17,834 --> 01:10:20,250 that somehow we're immune from that problem, 1628 01:10:20,285 --> 01:10:22,528 but that's the thing that most upsets me. 1629 01:10:22,563 --> 01:10:23,633 Sometimes even all the people 1630 01:10:23,667 --> 01:10:26,670 that do the best work have problems. 1631 01:10:26,705 --> 01:10:28,051 - It's hard to make a record. 1632 01:10:28,085 --> 01:10:32,055 It's a manual process and it relies on a lot of technology 1633 01:10:32,089 --> 01:10:34,471 that's 100 years old or more. 1634 01:10:34,506 --> 01:10:36,887 [light music] 1635 01:10:39,925 --> 01:10:41,202 - In my previous role, 1636 01:10:41,237 --> 01:10:43,825 I was the head of music partnerships at Google 1637 01:10:43,860 --> 01:10:47,795 and simultaneously was managing bands with my sister 1638 01:10:47,829 --> 01:10:49,452 and one of the things I was seeing 1639 01:10:49,486 --> 01:10:52,765 in my role as a band manager was how many young fans 1640 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,767 were asking for vinyl at the merch tables. 1641 01:10:54,802 --> 01:10:56,700 So the more that this was happening, 1642 01:10:56,735 --> 01:10:59,289 I was starting to order vinyl for my bands 1643 01:10:59,324 --> 01:11:02,741 and it was taking a quoted four to six months to get product 1644 01:11:02,775 --> 01:11:04,915 when you need it quickly. 1645 01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:06,365 So just as a thought experiment 1646 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,471 I put together a business pitch deck. 1647 01:11:08,505 --> 01:11:10,300 I'm just curious if someone would finance this 1648 01:11:10,335 --> 01:11:11,750 and I walked into the bank and I said, 1649 01:11:11,784 --> 01:11:13,821 "I'm looking for loan financing," 1650 01:11:13,855 --> 01:11:16,237 and I walked out with a half a million dollar commitment 1651 01:11:16,272 --> 01:11:18,826 to start a factory. [laughs] 1652 01:11:18,860 --> 01:11:21,587 How we built the factory is meant to be different 1653 01:11:21,622 --> 01:11:23,865 than what you can find at other plants. 1654 01:11:23,900 --> 01:11:25,764 We came in as a new plant, said we're gonna do it better 1655 01:11:25,798 --> 01:11:27,559 and faster than any other plant. 1656 01:11:28,905 --> 01:11:30,907 Well it's almost sacrilegious to some people, 1657 01:11:30,941 --> 01:11:33,565 but we think, what if we brought some more innovation 1658 01:11:33,599 --> 01:11:36,464 to a space that really had seen any in so long? 1659 01:11:36,499 --> 01:11:38,915 You know it's plastic, it's not great for the environment 1660 01:11:38,949 --> 01:11:41,297 and what I asked my team to do with me 1661 01:11:41,331 --> 01:11:43,851 to say hey, these are the inefficiencies we're seeing, 1662 01:11:43,885 --> 01:11:46,129 how can we employ you know a different way of thinking 1663 01:11:46,163 --> 01:11:49,063 that's not, "Oh, that's the way it's always been done"? 1664 01:11:49,097 --> 01:11:53,170 What it's resulted in our records come off so clean. 1665 01:11:53,205 --> 01:11:55,414 I've heard from other pressing plants 1666 01:11:55,449 --> 01:11:57,796 that they'll throw up to 30% of records away. 1667 01:11:57,830 --> 01:12:02,110 We're down to, on a good day, .5%. 1668 01:12:02,145 --> 01:12:05,148 [machines hum] 1669 01:12:05,182 --> 01:12:07,840 [vinyl clatters] 1670 01:12:10,222 --> 01:12:11,948 - The production of records, 1671 01:12:11,982 --> 01:12:14,640 it's not the best thing for the environment at all. 1672 01:12:15,848 --> 01:12:19,024 I think on the flip side, we're simply not producing vinyl 1673 01:12:19,058 --> 01:12:20,853 in the same amounts that we used to. 1674 01:12:20,888 --> 01:12:22,407 So whatever the environmental impact 1675 01:12:22,441 --> 01:12:24,547 would have been a generation ago, 1676 01:12:24,581 --> 01:12:26,480 we are now at a fraction of that. 1677 01:12:26,514 --> 01:12:28,344 - You know vinyl is recyclable, 1678 01:12:28,378 --> 01:12:31,139 you can recycle it and put it into future pressings. 1679 01:12:31,174 --> 01:12:33,210 That is great. 1680 01:12:34,660 --> 01:12:37,145 - So this is our vinyl recycling room. 1681 01:12:37,180 --> 01:12:39,907 When you manufacture a record you have excess vinyl. 1682 01:12:41,184 --> 01:12:43,842 We regrind that and use that, mix it in with virgin 1683 01:12:43,876 --> 01:12:45,844 in subsequent generations of records. 1684 01:12:47,949 --> 01:12:52,713 We have devoted quite a bit of time to our energy systems 1685 01:12:52,747 --> 01:12:56,061 to allow us to recapture and recycle 1686 01:12:56,095 --> 01:12:58,891 what would be essentially exhaust, 1687 01:12:58,926 --> 01:13:00,893 to be more efficient and less wasteful. 1688 01:13:01,998 --> 01:13:05,519 - It's, yeah, as someone who is concerned 1689 01:13:05,553 --> 01:13:10,420 about the environment and tries to take strides 1690 01:13:10,455 --> 01:13:14,769 to be not a litter bug, to recycle, to buy less plastic, 1691 01:13:14,804 --> 01:13:16,495 to do stuff like that, 1692 01:13:16,530 --> 01:13:17,703 here's a wall of stuff 1693 01:13:17,738 --> 01:13:20,810 that's gonna take 40,000 years to degrade. 1694 01:13:20,844 --> 01:13:23,468 We all like to think that these are gonna be very important 1695 01:13:23,502 --> 01:13:26,229 to generations after generations. 1696 01:13:26,263 --> 01:13:28,231 You know this Shangri-Las record, 1697 01:13:28,265 --> 01:13:32,235 somebody's gonna want this in 2075, right? 1698 01:13:32,269 --> 01:13:35,928 - The idea that records can last 70 years is fucking crazy. 1699 01:13:35,963 --> 01:13:37,274 I mean that's crazy. 1700 01:13:37,309 --> 01:13:39,932 My goal is to make a record that sounds good enough 1701 01:13:39,967 --> 01:13:41,727 that someone will listen to it for 20 years. 1702 01:13:41,762 --> 01:13:45,282 - I have records that I've had since I was, you know, 13. 1703 01:13:45,317 --> 01:13:48,044 Do I have most other things that I've had since I was 13? 1704 01:13:48,078 --> 01:13:48,976 No. 1705 01:13:49,010 --> 01:13:50,771 - Lots of things I would happily not have. 1706 01:13:50,805 --> 01:13:52,393 I'll turn off a lot more lights, 1707 01:13:52,428 --> 01:13:54,740 I'll take way shorter showers, 1708 01:13:54,775 --> 01:13:57,571 I'll take way fewer showers to keep my records. 1709 01:13:58,813 --> 01:14:01,264 - You know you deal with these questions 1710 01:14:01,298 --> 01:14:06,131 and the best thing to do is put a record on really loud 1711 01:14:06,165 --> 01:14:09,065 and just try to drown those thoughts out. 1712 01:14:09,099 --> 01:14:12,413 [frantic guitar music] 1713 01:14:19,455 --> 01:14:21,767 - Detroit is known for making things 1714 01:14:21,802 --> 01:14:23,942 and that's what we're doing here at Third Man Pressing. 1715 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,049 A vinyl record pressing plant 1716 01:14:28,084 --> 01:14:30,466 where people can come in the front door, look at vinyl, 1717 01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:34,435 but then go in the back and see records being made 1718 01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:37,956 only really helps, you know, the music industry 1719 01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:40,545 and Detroit really connect. 1720 01:14:40,579 --> 01:14:41,822 - Part of the design 1721 01:14:41,856 --> 01:14:45,515 and the vision from Jack was the heavy, bulky, 1722 01:14:45,550 --> 01:14:47,586 ugly machinery that just kind of sits there 1723 01:14:47,621 --> 01:14:51,072 has all been put behind walls, soundproofed 1724 01:14:51,107 --> 01:14:56,077 and just visually eliminated to create an uncluttered look. 1725 01:14:56,975 --> 01:14:58,804 This is kind of a whole different approach 1726 01:14:58,839 --> 01:14:59,978 to making a product. 1727 01:15:01,497 --> 01:15:05,984 So what Sam is doing is operating two machines right now. 1728 01:15:06,018 --> 01:15:08,607 She's kind of working in tandem here. 1729 01:15:08,642 --> 01:15:09,988 In an eight hour shift, 1730 01:15:10,022 --> 01:15:14,026 she can get anywhere from 1,100 to 1,300 records. 1731 01:15:14,061 --> 01:15:15,372 [machine snaps] 1732 01:15:15,407 --> 01:15:19,031 - Our first year we were around 250,000 pieces, 1733 01:15:19,066 --> 01:15:20,516 the second year around 700 1734 01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:22,794 and this year we're gonna probably come in 1735 01:15:22,828 --> 01:15:24,002 at a million plus. 1736 01:15:25,555 --> 01:15:29,076 - Behind us is the board that has what is on press. 1737 01:15:31,078 --> 01:15:33,321 We are here to press for everybody. 1738 01:15:33,356 --> 01:15:36,980 - It's very important that we support local bands. 1739 01:15:37,015 --> 01:15:39,017 Even though their orders might be smaller, 1740 01:15:39,051 --> 01:15:40,950 but it's extremely important 1741 01:15:40,984 --> 01:15:43,331 that they're able to take, you know, 7-inch records 1742 01:15:43,366 --> 01:15:46,576 or even a 12 inch to their shows. 1743 01:15:46,611 --> 01:15:49,993 - We do recycle as much of the product as possible 1744 01:15:50,028 --> 01:15:52,686 and grind it all down 1745 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,551 and then you can make more records from it. 1746 01:15:55,585 --> 01:15:58,174 Definitely don't want any of it goin' in a landfill. 1747 01:15:58,208 --> 01:16:00,107 - My hope is that kids that visit here, 1748 01:16:01,660 --> 01:16:04,663 you know, dive in and they tell their friends about it 1749 01:16:04,698 --> 01:16:07,252 and then they go and visit their local record stores. 1750 01:16:08,460 --> 01:16:12,084 - A lot of times we get people in on tours 1751 01:16:12,119 --> 01:16:15,363 who have not experienced what vinyl sounds like. 1752 01:16:15,398 --> 01:16:16,606 It can be an eye, 1753 01:16:16,641 --> 01:16:18,850 or let's say ear-opening experience for them 1754 01:16:18,884 --> 01:16:22,232 to be able to experience that for the first time. 1755 01:16:24,131 --> 01:16:25,235 ♪ Write it all the way down 1756 01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:27,548 - You know a record will give you goosebumps. 1757 01:16:27,583 --> 01:16:30,689 If it's a good pressing, good quality, 1758 01:16:30,724 --> 01:16:35,694 the sound of it can really do something to you physically. 1759 01:16:35,729 --> 01:16:36,695 [upbeat dance music] 1760 01:16:36,730 --> 01:16:38,386 - Do I think vinyl sounds better? 1761 01:16:38,421 --> 01:16:39,974 - Better than what? 1762 01:16:40,009 --> 01:16:41,597 - People are like, "Oh yeah, vinyl just sounds better." 1763 01:16:41,631 --> 01:16:43,357 But they don't say it sounds better than. 1764 01:16:43,391 --> 01:16:45,048 - In comparison to streaming, 1765 01:16:45,083 --> 01:16:47,948 in comparison to 8-tracks, in comparison to tapes. 1766 01:16:47,982 --> 01:16:51,192 - I think the whole analog sound 1767 01:16:51,227 --> 01:16:52,642 is more pleasing to the ear. 1768 01:16:52,677 --> 01:16:53,919 - There's something natural 1769 01:16:53,954 --> 01:16:56,059 about like a needle vibrating in a groove 1770 01:16:56,094 --> 01:16:57,198 and creating the sound 1771 01:16:58,648 --> 01:17:01,168 versus the zeroes and ones and everything. 1772 01:17:01,202 --> 01:17:04,343 - If all you've ever done is listen to streaming 1773 01:17:04,378 --> 01:17:06,069 through your AirPods, 1774 01:17:06,104 --> 01:17:07,761 you're not going to have a frame of reference 1775 01:17:07,795 --> 01:17:10,280 to understand, like, "Wow, that's your favorite record?" 1776 01:17:10,315 --> 01:17:12,144 Ooh, let's play your favorite record for you 1777 01:17:12,179 --> 01:17:13,456 on a record player. 1778 01:17:13,490 --> 01:17:15,078 - Like obviously it sounds better 1779 01:17:15,113 --> 01:17:16,908 than listening to something on your laptop's speakers 1780 01:17:16,942 --> 01:17:18,944 'cause your laptop's speakers probably sound like shit, 1781 01:17:18,979 --> 01:17:21,084 but does it sound better than listening to a CD in the car? 1782 01:17:21,119 --> 01:17:23,293 - I just don't get that warmth 1783 01:17:25,019 --> 01:17:26,780 out of CD that I get out of vinyl. 1784 01:17:26,814 --> 01:17:28,195 - I mean they're better than tapes, 1785 01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:31,819 but are they better than the digital streaming? [laughs] 1786 01:17:31,854 --> 01:17:33,062 Um. 1787 01:17:33,096 --> 01:17:37,618 - The idea that a mass-produced cassette sounds worse 1788 01:17:37,653 --> 01:17:39,275 than like a bullshit record, 1789 01:17:39,309 --> 01:17:41,173 it's actually so offensive to me 1790 01:17:41,208 --> 01:17:43,762 because cassettes are hella cheap to make 1791 01:17:43,797 --> 01:17:46,178 and they can sound better than shitty records. 1792 01:17:47,214 --> 01:17:49,665 I find it worth pushing back on. 1793 01:17:49,699 --> 01:17:51,839 - The way everything sounds varies 1794 01:17:51,874 --> 01:17:56,050 depending on a lot of different variables. 1795 01:17:56,085 --> 01:17:59,088 - How you're standing in relation to the speakers, 1796 01:17:59,122 --> 01:18:01,711 what's on the walls, what's on the floor. 1797 01:18:01,746 --> 01:18:05,163 - How well it was recorded, how well it was mastered. 1798 01:18:05,197 --> 01:18:08,166 - Honestly, it depends on the music. 1799 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:09,995 I would never really think to listen 1800 01:18:10,030 --> 01:18:13,171 to the new Ariana Grande on vinyl. 1801 01:18:13,205 --> 01:18:16,346 - The idea that analog is a superior format to digital 1802 01:18:16,381 --> 01:18:18,452 or that digital is superior to analog 1803 01:18:18,486 --> 01:18:20,350 is basically horseshit. 1804 01:18:20,385 --> 01:18:22,318 - If it doesn't actually sound better, 1805 01:18:22,352 --> 01:18:24,113 I could really give a shit 1806 01:18:24,147 --> 01:18:25,493 [Ashley laughs] 1807 01:18:25,528 --> 01:18:27,047 because I like to touch 'em and hold 'em and flip 'em 1808 01:18:27,081 --> 01:18:29,532 and look at 'em and go through the liner notes and- 1809 01:18:29,566 --> 01:18:30,740 - Sliding it out of the sleeve 1810 01:18:30,775 --> 01:18:32,052 and getting it out of the plastic 1811 01:18:32,086 --> 01:18:33,018 and putting it in the MoFi sleeve 1812 01:18:33,053 --> 01:18:34,123 and then putting it on the deck. 1813 01:18:34,157 --> 01:18:36,539 - Lifting up the tone arm and putting it on 1814 01:18:36,573 --> 01:18:39,128 and like trying to put it right on- 1815 01:18:39,162 --> 01:18:41,613 - That experience is far 1816 01:18:41,647 --> 01:18:45,237 and above scrolling through your playlist on your phone. 1817 01:18:45,272 --> 01:18:49,241 - Does it sound great because that was a time in my life 1818 01:18:49,276 --> 01:18:53,211 that it brings me back to or does it really sound that good? 1819 01:18:54,764 --> 01:18:57,215 - I don't necessarily think that vinyl sounds better. 1820 01:18:57,249 --> 01:18:58,906 I think it sounds better for me. 1821 01:18:58,941 --> 01:19:00,183 - There are a lot of different ways 1822 01:19:00,218 --> 01:19:01,875 that I could listen to a song. 1823 01:19:01,909 --> 01:19:05,430 I keep listening to them on vinyl 1824 01:19:05,464 --> 01:19:09,365 because of how it feels, not just how it sounds. 1825 01:19:09,399 --> 01:19:13,231 - But to each their own. 1826 01:19:13,265 --> 01:19:14,784 - This is the burning question in my life 1827 01:19:14,819 --> 01:19:16,924 because now you can free service, 1828 01:19:16,959 --> 01:19:18,926 you can get streaming service. 1829 01:19:18,961 --> 01:19:20,238 [soft music] 1830 01:19:20,272 --> 01:19:23,862 - The reason vinyl sales increases 1831 01:19:23,897 --> 01:19:27,279 and streaming popularity kind of coincide 1832 01:19:27,314 --> 01:19:29,730 is because streaming allows discovery. 1833 01:19:29,765 --> 01:19:34,597 - You literally can sample everything that is out there 1834 01:19:34,631 --> 01:19:37,117 and then make your buying decisions based on that sampling. 1835 01:19:37,151 --> 01:19:38,532 - If I really enjoy a band 1836 01:19:38,566 --> 01:19:42,294 and I listen to their whole albums on streaming services, 1837 01:19:42,329 --> 01:19:45,366 I will definitely make a point to buy the record 1838 01:19:45,401 --> 01:19:48,438 because I do feel passionately enough about them 1839 01:19:48,473 --> 01:19:50,337 that I want to support them in some other way. 1840 01:19:50,371 --> 01:19:51,959 - [Caren] 'Cause you can get the music elsewhere, 1841 01:19:51,994 --> 01:19:54,410 but you can't get the liner notes, 1842 01:19:54,444 --> 01:19:56,412 you can't get the photo booklet. 1843 01:19:56,446 --> 01:19:57,309 - You have gotta have it. 1844 01:19:57,344 --> 01:19:59,311 - This is a different experience 1845 01:19:59,346 --> 01:20:02,590 that is weirdly complete harmony with streaming 1846 01:20:02,625 --> 01:20:04,627 and also the complete opposite of streaming. 1847 01:20:04,661 --> 01:20:05,904 - I think it's cool to be able 1848 01:20:05,939 --> 01:20:08,148 to access so much different music 1849 01:20:09,390 --> 01:20:12,393 and listen to such a diverse kind of array of sounds, 1850 01:20:12,428 --> 01:20:16,259 but I don't know, I really like the sequencing of a record. 1851 01:20:16,294 --> 01:20:17,778 - I kinda go back and forth. 1852 01:20:17,813 --> 01:20:19,297 You know if I'm on the subway 1853 01:20:19,331 --> 01:20:22,472 I'm obviously gonna listen [laughs] to the Spotify version, 1854 01:20:22,507 --> 01:20:25,993 but if I'm settled in my house for the night, 1855 01:20:26,028 --> 01:20:28,962 I would probably reach for the vinyl. 1856 01:20:28,996 --> 01:20:30,791 [water rushing] 1857 01:20:30,826 --> 01:20:34,243 - I just moved to the place where we're here right now 1858 01:20:34,277 --> 01:20:36,245 and we live on top of a mountain here 1859 01:20:36,279 --> 01:20:38,281 and there's two switchbacks that make it, 1860 01:20:38,316 --> 01:20:41,802 so you can only have a certain size moving truck. 1861 01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:45,288 I had to take out all of the records myself 1862 01:20:45,323 --> 01:20:47,773 and we had to be out of the house 1863 01:20:47,808 --> 01:20:50,293 that we were in on moving day 1864 01:20:50,328 --> 01:20:52,502 and you know it's about 13,000 records. 1865 01:20:53,538 --> 01:20:55,436 So what you're talking about is boxes and boxes 1866 01:20:55,471 --> 01:20:57,335 and boxes of dead weight. 1867 01:20:57,369 --> 01:20:59,302 [sighs] [lock rattles] 1868 01:20:59,337 --> 01:21:01,339 Every box that I was moving, 1869 01:21:01,373 --> 01:21:03,617 I was coming face to face with my, you know, 1870 01:21:03,651 --> 01:21:06,068 habitual collecting demons in a way 1871 01:21:06,102 --> 01:21:08,794 that no psychologist could have ever helped me out with 1872 01:21:09,865 --> 01:21:11,107 and I vowed to myself 1873 01:21:11,142 --> 01:21:14,455 that like it was time to stop. [laughs] 1874 01:21:14,490 --> 01:21:15,836 So I have this whole thing now 1875 01:21:15,871 --> 01:21:18,080 where if I get a record, I've gotta get rid of three. 1876 01:21:19,529 --> 01:21:22,463 You know you want your collection to be easily accessible. 1877 01:21:22,498 --> 01:21:23,879 You want every record you pull out 1878 01:21:23,913 --> 01:21:25,811 to something that brings you total joy. 1879 01:21:27,537 --> 01:21:29,436 A good night for me is when I wake up 1880 01:21:29,470 --> 01:21:32,232 and there's a stack of records that are out of their sleeves 1881 01:21:32,266 --> 01:21:34,510 and strewn around and I realize that, man, 1882 01:21:34,544 --> 01:21:36,615 last night I had a really good time, you know? 1883 01:21:36,650 --> 01:21:38,824 And you can't do that if you're gonna treat them 1884 01:21:38,859 --> 01:21:41,344 like some bizarre objects that are in museums 1885 01:21:41,379 --> 01:21:42,587 and things like that. 1886 01:21:42,621 --> 01:21:43,864 When you have a dog, you pet the dog. 1887 01:21:43,899 --> 01:21:45,417 Look, when I have this dog I pet this dog 1888 01:21:45,452 --> 01:21:47,419 and I love this dog like this, 1889 01:21:47,454 --> 01:21:49,559 I don't just put her on a shelf and not worry about her. 1890 01:21:49,594 --> 01:21:52,735 And you know I feel the same way about my records. 1891 01:21:52,769 --> 01:21:53,770 [dog huffs] Yeah. 1892 01:21:53,805 --> 01:21:55,393 [soft music] 1893 01:21:55,427 --> 01:21:56,912 - My mom used to say, "Do you have enough records? 1894 01:21:56,946 --> 01:21:58,499 Don't you have enough? 1895 01:21:58,534 --> 01:22:00,329 When are you gonna have enough?" 1896 01:22:00,363 --> 01:22:02,745 And I said, "Mom, you know you don't get it, Mom. 1897 01:22:02,779 --> 01:22:04,747 There's never enough records." 1898 01:22:04,781 --> 01:22:07,715 And I think 20 years later, you know, 1899 01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:10,511 I think she was right. [laughs] 1900 01:22:10,546 --> 01:22:13,169 We use these like IKEA shelves that fit records perfectly, 1901 01:22:13,204 --> 01:22:14,895 like every record collector knows 'em. 1902 01:22:14,930 --> 01:22:17,863 Like a five-by-five of those, 25 cubes all together, 1903 01:22:17,898 --> 01:22:20,073 that's like the ideal amount of records, right? 1904 01:22:20,107 --> 01:22:22,489 It's enough for you to like have enough to listen to 1905 01:22:22,523 --> 01:22:25,112 and go a little deep, but you don't have too much. 1906 01:22:25,147 --> 01:22:26,458 And that way if you get more records 1907 01:22:26,493 --> 01:22:28,460 you can always like make sure you get rid of 'em after, 1908 01:22:28,495 --> 01:22:30,290 it always fits in there, right? 1909 01:22:31,118 --> 01:22:33,189 It's kinda hard to do. 1910 01:22:33,224 --> 01:22:35,951 I have so much personal history tied up 1911 01:22:35,985 --> 01:22:39,368 in every single record and so I don't know, 1912 01:22:39,402 --> 01:22:41,197 that's something I need to actually practice. 1913 01:22:41,232 --> 01:22:44,097 I haven't got there yet, but one day. 1914 01:22:46,892 --> 01:22:50,586 - My wife, Bev, when she and I found this place 1915 01:22:51,621 --> 01:22:53,140 we had a conversation. 1916 01:22:53,175 --> 01:22:55,729 We loved the place, we knew it was the place for us, 1917 01:22:55,763 --> 01:22:57,075 you know it had a fireplace, 1918 01:22:57,110 --> 01:22:58,456 we're like, "That's really cool," 1919 01:22:58,490 --> 01:23:00,492 and I said, "You know I'm glad 1920 01:23:00,527 --> 01:23:03,530 there's a storage space downstairs 1921 01:23:03,564 --> 01:23:04,980 that comes with the apartment 1922 01:23:05,014 --> 01:23:07,810 because that way I'll have a place to put the vinyl." 1923 01:23:07,844 --> 01:23:11,917 And she's like, "We would never buy a place 1924 01:23:11,952 --> 01:23:14,437 unless you could have your vinyl out. 1925 01:23:14,472 --> 01:23:16,957 You're not gonna put the vinyl in storage." 1926 01:23:16,992 --> 01:23:19,684 And so it was like that just made, you know, 1927 01:23:19,718 --> 01:23:22,169 like she's good peeps. 1928 01:23:22,204 --> 01:23:24,792 - When my future wife first came to my place 1929 01:23:26,001 --> 01:23:27,588 and she saw what was probably 1930 01:23:27,623 --> 01:23:32,628 at least 4 to 5, 6, 7,000 records all packed in this place 1931 01:23:33,456 --> 01:23:37,184 she was like, "Wow." [laughs] 1932 01:23:37,219 --> 01:23:40,877 But you know the cool thing was when we finally got a place 1933 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,467 she was like, "Oh, see this wall right here, 1934 01:23:44,502 --> 01:23:47,367 you could put all your records right here." 1935 01:23:47,401 --> 01:23:49,438 And I was like, man, I really lucked out. 1936 01:23:50,577 --> 01:23:52,648 - When you really love music 1937 01:23:52,682 --> 01:23:55,754 but you can't go buy the music you love and own it, 1938 01:23:56,928 --> 01:23:59,517 learning how to perform it well 1939 01:23:59,551 --> 01:24:02,140 is sort of the replacement for it. 1940 01:24:02,175 --> 01:24:04,453 You know my siblings and I, 1941 01:24:04,487 --> 01:24:07,421 it was never just like, "Oh, come listen to this song 1942 01:24:07,456 --> 01:24:08,905 and let's talk about it. 1943 01:24:08,940 --> 01:24:10,873 Let's talk about why we like this song 1944 01:24:10,907 --> 01:24:13,565 and you know what we're hearing in the song." 1945 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,982 It was like, "No, I'm Beyoncé, you're Michelle, 1946 01:24:17,017 --> 01:24:18,812 you're Kelly, let's go." 1947 01:24:18,846 --> 01:24:20,089 You know what I mean? 1948 01:24:20,124 --> 01:24:21,780 And you know all the words to the song 1949 01:24:21,815 --> 01:24:23,713 and you know all the moves to the song. 1950 01:24:23,748 --> 01:24:25,784 Like I grew up with music 1951 01:24:25,819 --> 01:24:29,098 being mostly in the idea of performance, 1952 01:24:29,133 --> 01:24:31,514 so I need to be able to have my space 1953 01:24:31,549 --> 01:24:33,930 to do my performance [laughs] and enjoy my music. 1954 01:24:33,965 --> 01:24:35,553 - But those big performances 1955 01:24:35,587 --> 01:24:37,486 have really been beneficial to me, too, 1956 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,386 because it's kind of brought back this sense of play. 1957 01:24:41,421 --> 01:24:42,870 It's not just another thing that I know, 1958 01:24:42,905 --> 01:24:44,596 it's a thing I'm experiencing. 1959 01:24:45,563 --> 01:24:48,221 - That's in the teaching each other thing. 1960 01:24:48,255 --> 01:24:51,120 He taught me how to like be curious enough about music 1961 01:24:51,155 --> 01:24:53,605 to not just think about how it makes me feel, 1962 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,366 but also think about where it came from 1963 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,609 and what's the history of this sound. 1964 01:24:57,644 --> 01:24:59,646 But I get him to play. 1965 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,544 - She taught me how to dance again. 1966 01:25:01,579 --> 01:25:03,581 [Ashley laughs] 1967 01:25:03,615 --> 01:25:06,618 She was like Kevin Bacon, I was like that whole town. 1968 01:25:06,653 --> 01:25:09,966 [couple laughs] 1969 01:25:10,001 --> 01:25:10,795 - Basically. 1970 01:25:12,003 --> 01:25:14,833 [crickets chirping] [airplane flying over] 1971 01:25:16,318 --> 01:25:19,424 [faint guitar music] 1972 01:25:21,944 --> 01:25:23,187 - [Kevin] Tell us what you think 1973 01:25:23,221 --> 01:25:26,776 would be a happy next phase of life 1974 01:25:26,811 --> 01:25:28,675 for your records after your gone. 1975 01:25:32,782 --> 01:25:35,060 - [sighs] I'm not gonna cry, Kevin. 1976 01:25:35,095 --> 01:25:40,100 I am 34 years old, so I don't think too hard about wills 1977 01:25:41,239 --> 01:25:44,725 and things like where do my books go, 1978 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,763 where does my, you know, duvet cover go, 1979 01:25:47,797 --> 01:25:50,662 but [laughs] I do have this letter, 1980 01:25:50,697 --> 01:25:52,802 like it's in a Google Doc, 1981 01:25:52,837 --> 01:25:57,221 that my parents are aware of and my boyfriend's aware of. 1982 01:25:59,602 --> 01:26:04,331 So in the letter it says to my parents that 1983 01:26:04,366 --> 01:26:09,371 just when I pass let my boyfriend decide where my records go 1984 01:26:10,544 --> 01:26:12,305 'cause I trust that he'll make sure 1985 01:26:12,339 --> 01:26:15,170 that they're not going to Goodwill, 1986 01:26:15,204 --> 01:26:19,726 they're not going to a place where they won't be 1987 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:20,796 touched 1988 01:26:20,830 --> 01:26:21,590 or enjoyed. 1989 01:26:22,556 --> 01:26:25,352 [heartfelt music] 1990 01:26:26,905 --> 01:26:31,841 I hope that my records will continue to be played. 1991 01:26:33,395 --> 01:26:38,296 It's a funny thing to cry about [laughs] objects 1992 01:26:38,331 --> 01:26:41,196 and not people or creatures, 1993 01:26:41,230 --> 01:26:44,233 but it is really sad to think 1994 01:26:45,752 --> 01:26:50,343 of my collection being separated from each other 1995 01:26:51,033 --> 01:26:52,241 and that conversation 1996 01:26:52,276 --> 01:26:55,244 that they all have together being broken. 1997 01:26:57,936 --> 01:27:00,353 [sniffs] And so, yeah, I wish for my records 1998 01:27:00,387 --> 01:27:04,391 just go to a place where someone is gonna go, 1999 01:27:04,426 --> 01:27:05,841 "Wow, that's a cool record. 2000 01:27:05,875 --> 01:27:08,740 That's a cool cover, I want to see what that's about." 2001 01:27:09,776 --> 01:27:12,054 I hope that someone will discover them 2002 01:27:12,088 --> 01:27:15,126 and have their own stories with them. 2003 01:27:17,301 --> 01:27:18,750 - [Kevin] Love you, old friend. 2004 01:27:20,890 --> 01:27:24,342 - It's so silly, they're records. [sniffs] 2005 01:27:31,142 --> 01:27:32,730 It's so silly. [laughs] 2006 01:27:32,764 --> 01:27:34,801 - No, no, I'd say the same thing. Are you kidding? 2007 01:27:34,835 --> 01:27:36,320 I'm just the one who gets to ask the questions. 2008 01:27:36,354 --> 01:27:37,838 [Ashleyanne laughs] 2009 01:27:37,873 --> 01:27:40,772 - You and I have this in common, that we love vinyl. 2010 01:27:40,807 --> 01:27:42,360 Were it not for music 2011 01:27:42,395 --> 01:27:43,741 we wouldn't be havin' this conversation, right? 2012 01:27:43,775 --> 01:27:45,260 And so I really feel that it is somethin' 2013 01:27:45,294 --> 01:27:47,296 that can be passed on. 2014 01:27:47,331 --> 01:27:48,884 Don't be intimidated 2015 01:27:48,918 --> 01:27:51,335 and don't let the music snobs or collectors 2016 01:27:51,369 --> 01:27:54,579 make you feel like this isn't approachable 'cause it is. 2017 01:27:54,614 --> 01:27:58,514 Even if it's "Best of the '80s," 2018 01:27:58,549 --> 01:27:59,791 go on and get that "Best of the '80s." 2019 01:27:59,826 --> 01:28:01,966 That might change your life. 2020 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,556 [happy music] 2021 01:28:05,590 --> 01:28:08,283 - [Caren] I think we're seeing this pendulum 2022 01:28:08,317 --> 01:28:10,250 swing back toward analog 2023 01:28:10,285 --> 01:28:12,459 because we're gathering around together 2024 01:28:12,494 --> 01:28:14,012 in a much more human way 2025 01:28:15,082 --> 01:28:16,291 and one of the things 2026 01:28:16,325 --> 01:28:18,948 that I hope we learn from vinyl's resurgence 2027 01:28:18,983 --> 01:28:21,779 is this want for human connection. 2028 01:28:24,437 --> 01:28:26,301 - [Stephen] I want to share the things I love 2029 01:28:26,335 --> 01:28:28,164 with people who will love them, 2030 01:28:28,199 --> 01:28:30,028 that's really all that matters to me. 2031 01:28:35,344 --> 01:28:36,587 - [Ashleyanne] When I'm looking through my records 2032 01:28:36,621 --> 01:28:37,933 when I'm gonna play, 2033 01:28:37,967 --> 01:28:39,797 I'm like, "That one reminds me of Paul, 2034 01:28:39,831 --> 01:28:43,456 that one reminds me of Daniel, that one reminds me of Amy." 2035 01:28:43,490 --> 01:28:45,630 I have so many stories of friends 2036 01:28:45,665 --> 01:28:47,701 because we have similar records. 2037 01:28:53,155 --> 01:28:55,157 - [Kat] I want them all to be loved and enjoyed 2038 01:28:55,191 --> 01:28:56,986 and played 'til they're so scratchy 2039 01:28:57,021 --> 01:28:58,505 you can't play them anymore. 2040 01:29:02,682 --> 01:29:04,131 - [Roz] I mean my records, 2041 01:29:04,166 --> 01:29:07,790 all my music is what I have absolute faith in. 2042 01:29:07,825 --> 01:29:11,863 I only have faith in a couple of things to that degree, 2043 01:29:11,898 --> 01:29:15,867 music is one of them, love is the other. 2044 01:29:21,390 --> 01:29:24,462 [vibrant horn music] 2045 01:29:40,167 --> 01:29:45,172 ♪ I'm getting closer to thinking that there's a way out ♪ 2046 01:29:53,146 --> 01:29:57,012 - Oh no, I had never thought about this. 2047 01:29:57,046 --> 01:29:58,945 I'm actually getting like teary-eyed. 2048 01:29:58,979 --> 01:30:01,292 What do I want to happen to my records? 2049 01:30:02,293 --> 01:30:03,984 Oh. 2050 01:30:04,019 --> 01:30:05,676 - If it's my own children, that's great, 2051 01:30:05,710 --> 01:30:06,884 maybe they'll listen to it 2052 01:30:06,918 --> 01:30:08,679 and they'll have memories of their mom. 2053 01:30:08,713 --> 01:30:09,887 But if they don't like it, 2054 01:30:09,921 --> 01:30:10,922 if they're not gonna listen to it, 2055 01:30:10,957 --> 01:30:12,579 if they're just gonna sit in a box 2056 01:30:12,614 --> 01:30:15,271 then I'd rather they sell them to a record store 2057 01:30:15,306 --> 01:30:18,999 and then have the records just sort of disperse out. 2058 01:30:19,034 --> 01:30:22,727 Spread out sort of like ashes to other people to listen to. 2059 01:30:23,935 --> 01:30:25,834 - Can I say, can I be buried with them? 2060 01:30:25,868 --> 01:30:27,007 I don't know. 2061 01:30:27,042 --> 01:30:28,250 - You know he asks me a lot 2062 01:30:28,284 --> 01:30:31,115 what I'm gonna do with the records if he dies. 2063 01:30:31,149 --> 01:30:34,049 That's a question that comes up about once a quarter. 2064 01:30:34,083 --> 01:30:37,742 And my answer changes, 2065 01:30:37,777 --> 01:30:40,780 but essentially is always like 2066 01:30:40,814 --> 01:30:42,747 Mick gets some special records, 2067 01:30:42,782 --> 01:30:44,784 your dad gets some special records 2068 01:30:44,818 --> 01:30:47,234 and I keep everything else. 2069 01:30:47,269 --> 01:30:48,719 - Having been someone 2070 01:30:48,753 --> 01:30:51,169 who listen to my parents' vinyl collection, 2071 01:30:51,204 --> 01:30:52,688 it would be really cool 2072 01:30:52,723 --> 01:30:56,623 to be able to pass the Fessler family love for music 2073 01:30:56,658 --> 01:30:58,314 down to the next generation. 2074 01:30:58,349 --> 01:31:01,801 - As long as it goes somewhere where it'll be loved, 2075 01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:04,148 that's all that matters. 2076 01:31:04,182 --> 01:31:06,253 - When I'm not here anymore, 2077 01:31:06,288 --> 01:31:07,945 my daughter has to have the records 2078 01:31:07,979 --> 01:31:10,326 and I want her to listen to them 2079 01:31:10,361 --> 01:31:14,261 and know that I am always there, I am always with her. 2080 01:31:16,298 --> 01:31:18,507 - No, I did think of that once and I thought, 2081 01:31:18,542 --> 01:31:21,959 you know what, I'm not gonna give 'em to my son. 2082 01:31:21,993 --> 01:31:25,480 The reason why is because I want him 2083 01:31:25,514 --> 01:31:29,000 to have his own experience with records and music. 2084 01:31:29,035 --> 01:31:31,037 - Well a famous book collector said, 2085 01:31:34,385 --> 01:31:36,111 something along the lines of, 2086 01:31:36,145 --> 01:31:38,941 "When I die, my collection should be broken up." 2087 01:31:38,976 --> 01:31:40,080 And people were like, "What are you talking, 2088 01:31:40,115 --> 01:31:41,496 that's amazing." 2089 01:31:41,530 --> 01:31:45,258 He's like, "The only way my collection was able to exist 2090 01:31:45,292 --> 01:31:48,986 was by other great collections also being split up." 2091 01:31:49,020 --> 01:31:49,987 - You gotta pay it forward, 2092 01:31:50,021 --> 01:31:52,437 so I hope that they end up in the used bins 2093 01:31:52,472 --> 01:31:54,543 or the new arrivals bins 2094 01:31:54,578 --> 01:31:57,235 at a high-quality record store near you 2095 01:31:57,270 --> 01:31:58,961 immediately after my demise. 2096 01:32:01,964 --> 01:32:04,967 ♪ I'm gettin' closer to thinking that there's a way out ♪ 2097 01:32:05,002 --> 01:32:09,144 [vibrant horn music continues] 2098 01:32:32,201 --> 01:32:34,997 ♪ I'm gettin' closer to thinking there's a way out. ♪ 2099 01:32:35,032 --> 01:32:37,552 [upbeat music] 155741

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