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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:27,379 --> 00:01:29,881 Going to Montserrat was like going into a dream. 2 00:01:31,258 --> 00:01:32,634 It's always different. 3 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:35,596 Reality's always different from what you think it will be. 4 00:01:43,395 --> 00:01:48,400 I love the idea of wilderness on the edge of civilization. 5 00:01:49,192 --> 00:01:56,158 I think the volcano itself is a kind of presiding spirit over the island, 6 00:01:56,283 --> 00:01:58,535 and it definitely gives you a sense 7 00:01:58,619 --> 00:02:02,748 that you're living on the edge of something seismic. 8 00:02:08,754 --> 00:02:13,008 When the volcano went off, that was a pinnacle point of change. 9 00:02:13,175 --> 00:02:16,720 A point where nothing was ever gonna be quite the same again. 10 00:02:16,845 --> 00:02:21,600 In the way we recorded, in the way that music was dealt with. 11 00:02:21,683 --> 00:02:24,895 Those magical moments are gonna be no longer. 12 00:02:28,482 --> 00:02:32,444 It was a glorious dream that George Martin had. 13 00:02:32,569 --> 00:02:35,280 And it's so sad, as always, 14 00:02:35,405 --> 00:02:40,827 to see a glorious dream come to an end and be destroyed. 15 00:02:41,828 --> 00:02:43,914 It's Atlantis now, isn't it? 16 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:44,057 (♪ "HOT HOT HOT" BY ARROW) 17 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:50,772 ♫ Ole, ole, ole, ole 18 00:03:51,314 --> 00:03:54,901 ♫ Ole, ole, ole, ole 19 00:03:55,026 --> 00:03:56,611 3 Feeling hot, hot, hot 20 00:03:59,030 --> 00:04:00,907 3 Feeling hot, hot, hot 21 00:04:02,325 --> 00:04:05,579 VYE ROBINSON: Montserrat's in the Caribbean. It's very close to Antigua. 22 00:04:05,704 --> 00:04:09,124 But because it's so small, it really is that hidden gem. 23 00:04:09,291 --> 00:04:12,252 They used to call it the Hidden Gem and the Emerald Isle of the Caribbean. 24 00:04:12,377 --> 00:04:15,797 Montserrat was colonized by the Irish. That's why the island is so different 25 00:04:15,922 --> 00:04:19,843 because it's just a really friendly place, it's just got a magic about it. 26 00:04:19,968 --> 00:04:23,388 4 Keep your spirit, come on, let's do it! 27 00:04:23,513 --> 00:04:24,973 3 Feeling hot, hot, hot 28 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:28,143 DESMOND RILEY: We had one big superstar. 29 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:32,272 Mighty Arrow. Everybody around the world would know Arrow, Hot Hot Hot. 30 00:04:32,397 --> 00:04:34,816 That's our music. We call it soca music. 31 00:04:35,776 --> 00:04:38,195 JUSTIN "HERO" CASSELL: Soca is a hybrid of calypso music. 32 00:04:38,361 --> 00:04:43,283 Calypso music originated in Nigeria and came to the West Indies. 33 00:04:43,408 --> 00:04:46,536 These islands, you know, they were part of the slave trade. 34 00:04:46,661 --> 00:04:49,539 And then you had the calypso carnivals. 35 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:53,335 I Keep people rockin' 36 00:04:53,877 --> 00:04:56,171 MINETTA ALLEN FRANCIS: Montserrat is just a lovely place. 37 00:04:56,338 --> 00:04:58,840 There is an atmosphere in Montserrat 38 00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:01,760 that just makes you want to live in Montserrat. 39 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:08,183 MIDGE URE: There was no doubt there was a magic on Montserrat. 40 00:05:08,350 --> 00:05:11,686 This island was kind of untouched. 41 00:05:11,812 --> 00:05:16,399 There were no big corporate signs for chain restaurants. 42 00:05:16,525 --> 00:05:18,819 And here was no American money in there, 43 00:05:18,902 --> 00:05:22,697 just these old shacks and tin roofs, 44 00:05:22,823 --> 00:05:25,826 and brightly colored and painted beautifully. 45 00:05:25,909 --> 00:05:28,411 And you felt as though you were in a time warp. 46 00:05:28,537 --> 00:05:32,833 This little island had a heart that you could feel, you know? 47 00:05:35,794 --> 00:05:39,673 KNOPFLER: It didn't have the sophistication you'd feel straight away 48 00:05:39,798 --> 00:05:43,718 if you went to Antigua or anywhere else like that. 49 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:47,472 It was far more innocent, far more quiet. 50 00:05:48,974 --> 00:05:51,226 STING: There's definitely a mystique about the island. 51 00:05:51,393 --> 00:05:53,687 It's quite a place, actually. It's really dramatic. 52 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:56,857 These, you know, very sheer cliffs. 53 00:05:56,982 --> 00:05:59,359 And, of course, the fertility of the island 54 00:05:59,484 --> 00:06:04,614 is a function of this volcanic ash that comes down periodically. 55 00:06:04,739 --> 00:06:06,908 It hadn't come down for a long time, 56 00:06:07,033 --> 00:06:10,996 but the island was blooming and blossoming, everything grew. 57 00:06:11,121 --> 00:06:15,500 I often wonder why George Martin chose a volcanic island 58 00:06:15,625 --> 00:06:17,919 to put his beautiful studio on. 59 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:19,588 (BIG BEN CHIMES) 60 00:06:26,511 --> 00:06:30,265 Originally, Dad, he was a mad visionary in lots of ways. 61 00:06:30,432 --> 00:06:32,726 I think always liked the idea of pushing boundaries. 62 00:06:32,851 --> 00:06:34,853 Think about what he did with the Beatles in the '60s. 63 00:06:34,936 --> 00:06:37,314 He pushed the boundaries with the recording studios. 64 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,899 He wanted to do something different. 65 00:06:39,441 --> 00:06:41,443 I bust a string straight away. 66 00:06:42,444 --> 00:06:43,778 (RUNS FINGERS UP KEYBOARD) 67 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:46,323 There were some great moments singing, Paul, but it wasn't the one. 68 00:06:46,489 --> 00:06:49,284 It's the second one out of every three is the one. 69 00:06:49,451 --> 00:06:52,621 Do you want to hear any of it before you do any more or go straight for another? 70 00:06:52,746 --> 00:06:55,248 JOHN LENNON: They either say that George Martin did everything 71 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:57,709 or the Beatles did everything. It was neither one, you know? 72 00:06:58,418 --> 00:07:03,632 He had a very great musical knowledge and background. 73 00:07:03,757 --> 00:07:06,676 So he could translate for us and suggest a lot of things. 74 00:07:06,801 --> 00:07:08,762 We'd be saying we want it to go... 75 00:07:08,887 --> 00:07:10,513 000-000 and eee-eee. 76 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:14,225 He'd say, "Well, look, chaps, I thought of this this afternoon. 77 00:07:14,351 --> 00:07:16,937 Last night, I was talking to..." whoever he was talking to. 78 00:07:17,062 --> 00:07:18,605 "And I came up with this." 79 00:07:18,730 --> 00:07:21,650 And we'd say, "Great. Great. We'll put it on here." 80 00:07:21,775 --> 00:07:24,277 It's hard to say who did what, you know? 81 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:26,613 I mean, he taught us a lot. I'm sure we taught him a lot. 82 00:07:26,738 --> 00:07:29,324 GERRY BECKLEY: A record producer is not like a film producer. 83 00:07:29,491 --> 00:07:31,952 A record producer is much more like a film director. 84 00:07:32,077 --> 00:07:35,038 One thing that was unique to George that a lot of producers didn't have 85 00:07:35,163 --> 00:07:37,832 is that he was also the arranger. 86 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:41,628 That's very often a completely different person, different element. 87 00:07:41,753 --> 00:07:43,672 In George's case, his work as an arranger 88 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:47,217 would be, for example, the strings in Eleanor Rigby or something. 89 00:07:47,342 --> 00:07:50,387 If you think of some of the famous producers of our time, 90 00:07:50,553 --> 00:07:53,640 the wall of sound, Phil Spector, 91 00:07:53,765 --> 00:07:56,810 where he controlled every note of every instrument 92 00:07:56,935 --> 00:08:00,397 and was just a tyrant and stuff, George was not at all like that. 93 00:08:00,563 --> 00:08:03,358 But there was a serious element 94 00:08:03,525 --> 00:08:09,239 of just kind of good Pythonesque British crazy in there. 95 00:08:09,364 --> 00:08:10,740 Just a lovely combination. 96 00:08:10,865 --> 00:08:15,870 (& "THREE AMERICAN SKETCHES: II. OLD BOSTON" BY GEORGE MARTIN) 97 00:08:21,001 --> 00:08:25,588 He knew how to get from you the best that you could give. 98 00:08:25,714 --> 00:08:28,133 Which was extraordinary, in the most wonderful way. 99 00:08:28,258 --> 00:08:32,053 Elegant, gentlemanly, loving, nurturing way. 100 00:08:32,178 --> 00:08:34,931 He would make any musician a much better musician 101 00:08:35,015 --> 00:08:36,683 by spending five minutes with them. 102 00:08:36,808 --> 00:08:39,686 You can put a very soft flute against a huge brass chord 103 00:08:39,811 --> 00:08:41,104 and still make it sound loud. 104 00:08:41,229 --> 00:08:43,815 And then cut up the tape, threw it up in the air, 105 00:08:43,940 --> 00:08:46,359 until it settled down on the ground, and joined them up again together. 106 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:50,280 So it just became like a patchwork quilt. 107 00:08:50,405 --> 00:08:52,323 This is the kind of thing you can do on a recording, 108 00:08:52,449 --> 00:08:54,409 which you obviously couldn't possibly do it live 109 00:08:54,576 --> 00:08:56,536 because it is making up music as you go along. 110 00:08:56,661 --> 00:09:00,582 He's largely responsible, along with the Beatles, 111 00:09:00,707 --> 00:09:05,962 for giving everybody that came after them in music a career. 112 00:09:06,046 --> 00:09:11,468 What the Beatles did with their albums, no one will ever top that. 113 00:09:12,010 --> 00:09:15,346 NEWSREEL: It is a moment in history that may one day be known 114 00:09:15,472 --> 00:09:19,059 as the day the British Empire was no more. 115 00:09:19,184 --> 00:09:23,188 The Beatles have decided to call it a day. 116 00:09:23,313 --> 00:09:25,482 BECKLEY: Well, a lot of things happened at that time. 117 00:09:25,648 --> 00:09:29,402 Obviously, the Beatles broke up, and so, George was free from EMI. 118 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:31,821 So I guess he became his own boss. 119 00:09:31,946 --> 00:09:34,866 But frankly, if you're known as the Beatles' producer, 120 00:09:34,991 --> 00:09:36,367 anything you do after that, 121 00:09:36,493 --> 00:09:39,454 it's virtually impossible to get anywhere near that. 122 00:09:39,621 --> 00:09:41,581 GILES MARTIN: I think my dad was tired of the confines 123 00:09:41,706 --> 00:09:43,750 of a very rigid company structure, 124 00:09:43,875 --> 00:09:46,586 which was Abbey Road, or EMI Studios as it was at the time. 125 00:09:46,711 --> 00:09:49,631 And he wanted to build a place which was more artist friendly. 126 00:09:49,756 --> 00:09:51,883 Abbey Road obviously created great music, 127 00:09:52,008 --> 00:09:53,676 but they always found... 128 00:09:53,802 --> 00:09:55,595 I mean, the fridge was locked every night. 129 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,182 They had to break in to get milk for their cups of tea. 130 00:09:59,307 --> 00:10:02,393 Even the loo roll had Abbey Road on it, so you wouldn't steal it. 131 00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:05,396 It was very much a... It was like a proper English factory. 132 00:10:05,522 --> 00:10:09,192 MALCOLM ATKIN: There's no doubt in my mind that George had a vision 133 00:10:09,317 --> 00:10:12,737 of how recording could or should be done. 134 00:10:12,862 --> 00:10:18,910 Through the '70s was a period of great excess in the music business. 135 00:10:19,369 --> 00:10:25,083 Um, it was an era when there wasn't such a thing as a budget. 136 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:27,544 There was a need to make some music. 137 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:31,256 COOPER: The '70s was one of the most exciting periods 138 00:10:31,381 --> 00:10:33,967 in musical recording time. 139 00:10:34,092 --> 00:10:36,511 And a few times, I've been in EMI, Abbey Road, 140 00:10:36,678 --> 00:10:41,057 and normally I would bump into George, but he wasn't there. 141 00:10:41,141 --> 00:10:44,018 And I wondered what was going on, and they said, 142 00:10:44,144 --> 00:10:47,480 "He's making his own studio now. AIR London it's gonna be called.” 143 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:51,818 ' Will you meet me in the middle? 144 00:10:51,943 --> 00:10:55,071 I Will you meet me in the air? 145 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:56,531 DAVE HARRIES: We had four studios. 146 00:10:56,698 --> 00:10:59,367 Oxford Circus, right in the middle of town. 147 00:10:59,492 --> 00:11:03,121 And it was so successful, you know, it was a hit factory. 148 00:11:03,204 --> 00:11:07,876 (♫ "SISTER GOLDEN HAIR" BY AMERICA) 149 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:36,529 There's a momentum shift which happens with successful studios. 150 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:38,698 But I think my dad wanted to do something different 151 00:11:38,823 --> 00:11:39,824 in the recording space. 152 00:11:39,949 --> 00:11:41,576 He wanted to record in a different location. 153 00:11:41,743 --> 00:11:43,912 Then he built AIR and he thought, "Where next?" 154 00:11:44,037 --> 00:11:47,040 George was looking for something, you know, 155 00:11:47,165 --> 00:11:49,209 which wasn't in the middle of London. 156 00:11:49,292 --> 00:11:52,921 Somewhere where the people could come and record, 157 00:11:53,046 --> 00:11:56,466 and his plan was there'd be a lack of hangers-on. 158 00:11:56,591 --> 00:11:59,427 It would just be them and their families. 159 00:11:59,552 --> 00:12:03,306 HARRIES: Then he had an idea that he would put a studio on a boat. 160 00:12:03,431 --> 00:12:05,808 He had a boat in line, which we went and looked at, 161 00:12:05,934 --> 00:12:09,103 a great big, big boat, and we were going to put a studio in the middle 162 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:12,023 so we could go to anywhere in the world and record people. 163 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:16,277 Then he realized that just the diesel generators would make a noise 164 00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:18,196 in every single recording he made. 165 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:21,616 So then he looked at islands, looked at Island Paradise, 166 00:12:21,783 --> 00:12:25,078 looked at that idea about building a studio and found Montserrat. 167 00:12:25,203 --> 00:12:27,664 HARRIES: And suddenly, he comes up to me and says, 168 00:12:27,830 --> 00:12:30,541 "Dave, we're flying out to Montserrat. I want to show you something. 169 00:12:30,667 --> 00:12:33,753 I've just bought a house and I've bought an estate, 170 00:12:33,878 --> 00:12:36,589 and I want you to build a studio there." 171 00:12:41,344 --> 00:12:43,554 I'd read about Montserrat in a Canadian magazine. 172 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,057 They described it, "The Emerald Isle of the Caribbean." 173 00:12:46,182 --> 00:12:48,559 So, I went there for a few days and fell in love with the place, 174 00:12:48,685 --> 00:12:53,064 and with the people, because they're such gentle people. 175 00:12:53,189 --> 00:12:57,026 And I loved it so much, I bought a place, simple as that. 176 00:12:57,151 --> 00:12:59,779 KNOPFLER: Montserrat, for George, was something more 177 00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:02,573 than just a commercial operation. 178 00:13:02,699 --> 00:13:05,076 He'd fallen in love with Montserrat. 179 00:13:06,202 --> 00:13:08,413 And he had something else in his mind, 180 00:13:08,538 --> 00:13:14,210 just to be able to tie in creativity with being in a special place. 181 00:13:14,919 --> 00:13:18,715 COOPER: George's idea was to take people out of an environment, 182 00:13:18,881 --> 00:13:21,301 to put them into harmony with nature, 183 00:13:21,426 --> 00:13:26,306 but also have time together to talk, to have dialogue. 184 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:27,974 And what he knew would happen 185 00:13:28,099 --> 00:13:30,977 was that for a lot of bands who had never been in that situation, 186 00:13:31,102 --> 00:13:37,442 that would evoke new ways of thinking, and therefore, new musical ideas. 187 00:13:37,567 --> 00:13:39,652 If you look at Montserrat on a map or had visited it 188 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:42,113 at that stage in 1976, '77, 189 00:13:42,238 --> 00:13:44,365 you'd never think, "Let's build a recording studios here." 190 00:13:44,490 --> 00:13:47,327 In the same way you start building the studios, you don't think, 191 00:13:47,452 --> 00:13:50,621 "Let's get Rupert Neve to build a custom desk and put it in this space.” 192 00:13:50,747 --> 00:13:54,208 HARRIES: The heart of any studio is the mixing console. 193 00:13:54,334 --> 00:13:58,504 Geoff Emerick was quite involved in what was gonna go on in Montserrat. 194 00:13:58,629 --> 00:14:05,053 So Geoff didn't want to use a current type of Neve console. 195 00:14:05,178 --> 00:14:07,388 So Rupert redesigned the desk. 196 00:14:07,513 --> 00:14:12,268 He said, "It will wipe everything else off the planet, this desk." 197 00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:14,062 AIR Studios, part of AIR's fame 198 00:14:14,187 --> 00:14:20,109 was that it had these three incredible-sounding Neve consoles. 199 00:14:20,234 --> 00:14:22,070 And they had one at AIR Montserrat. 200 00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:26,074 Neve desks, to me, it sounded musical. 201 00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:28,159 You could actually tune into something, 202 00:14:28,284 --> 00:14:30,119 you could bring out the character of something. 203 00:14:30,244 --> 00:14:33,456 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 204 00:14:36,125 --> 00:14:39,379 GILES MARTIN: Putting a recording desk in a studios 205 00:14:39,462 --> 00:14:41,172 in a big city has its own problems. 206 00:14:41,297 --> 00:14:44,467 Putting a recording studio on Montserrat, 207 00:14:44,592 --> 00:14:48,012 which really had no transport links at all at that stage, 208 00:14:48,137 --> 00:14:50,390 was the ultimate challenge. 209 00:14:50,473 --> 00:14:55,311 And it was very brave of them, too, because if something went really wrong, 210 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:59,273 your closest port of call was Miami. 211 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:02,819 You can imagine this huge two-ton box, 212 00:15:03,986 --> 00:15:06,906 with the most extraordinary piece of equipment inside of it, 213 00:15:07,031 --> 00:15:09,534 with about 30 builders all round it, 214 00:15:09,659 --> 00:15:13,371 and they rolled it off the back of the truck onto the oil drums. 215 00:15:13,454 --> 00:15:16,124 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 216 00:15:37,395 --> 00:15:39,439 PRESENTER: He's recognized as the greatest record producer 217 00:15:39,564 --> 00:15:41,607 the industry has seen. George Martin. 218 00:15:41,732 --> 00:15:43,276 (APPLAUSE) 219 00:15:43,401 --> 00:15:46,737 What are you up to right now? You have an interest in a studio abroad. 220 00:15:46,863 --> 00:15:49,532 Recently, I built a studio out in the Caribbean. 221 00:15:49,657 --> 00:15:52,326 This reminds me of it, by the way. (LAUGHS) 222 00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:54,245 So I spend quite a lot of time out there. 223 00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:56,706 And that was Montserrat in the West Indies. 224 00:15:56,831 --> 00:15:58,458 I hope I get a lot of people there. 225 00:15:58,583 --> 00:16:01,461 (5 "VOLCANO" BY JIMMY BUFFET) 226 00:16:09,385 --> 00:16:14,098 BUFFET: We were, I believe, the second band that recorded there, 227 00:16:14,223 --> 00:16:17,143 and, you know, I love island culture and I love the island people, 228 00:16:17,268 --> 00:16:21,272 and I lived on my boat off and on down there for 20 years. 229 00:16:21,397 --> 00:16:25,151 So I didn't have to go back to London or New York or Nashville to record it. 230 00:16:25,776 --> 00:16:28,863 And I was able to take those songs that were written there 231 00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:32,909 and go into that studio that was built by George Martin. 232 00:16:33,075 --> 00:16:36,037 You couldn't get anybody who had a better reputation at that time. 233 00:16:36,162 --> 00:16:38,372 It was a lovely working environment 234 00:16:38,498 --> 00:16:42,877 because you didn't leave, I would say, the arena of creativity. 235 00:16:43,044 --> 00:16:46,672 You were constantly involved in the creation of this music, 236 00:16:46,797 --> 00:16:48,633 as opposed to, like, being in Nashville, 237 00:16:48,758 --> 00:16:51,928 because to me, there are two ways that you go into the studio. 238 00:16:52,094 --> 00:16:55,932 You can go in and look for perfection, or you can try to capture the magic. 239 00:16:56,098 --> 00:16:58,476 I've always been a "capture the magic" guy. 240 00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:00,811 4 Now, I don't know 241 00:17:02,104 --> 00:17:03,564 ♫ I don't know 242 00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:07,151 ♫ I don't know where I'm a-gonna go 243 00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:09,028 3 When the volcano blows 244 00:17:09,153 --> 00:17:10,196 3 One more now 245 00:17:10,321 --> 00:17:11,656 ♫ I don't know 246 00:17:11,781 --> 00:17:12,865 ♫ He don't know 247 00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:14,367 ♫ I don't know 248 00:17:14,492 --> 00:17:15,660 ♫ He don't know 249 00:17:15,785 --> 00:17:17,870 ♫ I don't know where I'm a-gonna go 250 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:19,497 3 When the volcano blows 251 00:17:19,580 --> 00:17:21,290 ♫ Mr. Utley 252 00:17:21,415 --> 00:17:25,127 But then, we had a few problems. (LAUGHS) 253 00:17:25,253 --> 00:17:27,672 At the time, they were not funny 254 00:17:27,797 --> 00:17:30,841 because there was a bit of a colonial aspect to things 255 00:17:30,967 --> 00:17:33,469 that did not fare well with the American band. 256 00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:36,847 We were in having drinks, meeting everybody. 257 00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:38,808 As we went to order the drinks, 258 00:17:38,933 --> 00:17:41,561 you had to do it one at a time and have a slip down, 259 00:17:41,644 --> 00:17:44,105 you had to put it in and pay for it at the time. 260 00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:47,608 And this did not go over well with the Coral Reefer Band. 261 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:52,280 So the studio manager at the time, a guy named Denny Bridges, I remember, 262 00:17:52,405 --> 00:17:58,995 I said, "This is kinda odd for us, sir. Can't we kind of speed this up? 263 00:17:59,161 --> 00:18:01,163 We can have fun here, 264 00:18:01,289 --> 00:18:03,874 but we're here for two hours trying to pay for the drinks." 265 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,751 He said, "That's just the way we do it here." 266 00:18:05,876 --> 00:18:10,298 And I just said, "Why don't I just buy the whole fucking bar?" (LAUGHS) 267 00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:13,092 ♪ Ground, she's a-moving under me 268 00:18:15,469 --> 00:18:18,139 I Tidal waves out on the sea 269 00:18:21,142 --> 00:18:22,893 The thing was when we first got there, 270 00:18:23,019 --> 00:18:25,855 we didn't know what we were gonna call the record. 271 00:18:25,980 --> 00:18:27,315 And we saw the volcano. 272 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,485 This was a dormant volcano that was, like, a tourist attraction. 273 00:18:31,611 --> 00:18:35,990 You could walk from, like, here to you and that was the vent of the volcano. 274 00:18:36,157 --> 00:18:37,950 It was... (WHOOSHING SOUND) 275 00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:43,581 It was kind of fun to go up there, and I was intrigued by that volcano 276 00:18:43,664 --> 00:18:47,418 that was, you know, sitting there that was so accessible. 277 00:18:47,543 --> 00:18:49,253 The volcano. 278 00:18:49,378 --> 00:18:53,591 I don't think anybody gave the volcano more than a sort of sideways glance 279 00:18:53,674 --> 00:18:54,800 when we went down there. 280 00:18:54,925 --> 00:19:00,139 There was this thing called a soufriére, which was a bubbling sulfur springs, 281 00:19:00,264 --> 00:19:02,516 but it was seen as one of the local tourist attractions. 282 00:19:02,642 --> 00:19:04,477 It wasn't seen as anything dangerous. 283 00:19:04,602 --> 00:19:08,064 I was always like, "Are you sure you wanna be on this island with this?" 284 00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:11,275 Because the volcano was always sort of not going off, 285 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,696 but it was always, like, a possibility. It was never, like, completely quiet. 286 00:19:15,821 --> 00:19:19,158 You'd sit on the veranda and just listen. 287 00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:23,913 And... I remember thinking a few times, 288 00:19:24,038 --> 00:19:27,458 "Well, what if that volcano suddenly went off?" 289 00:19:27,583 --> 00:19:30,169 I'm from Chicago, we don't do volcanoes. 290 00:19:30,294 --> 00:19:32,296 (I "BOOGIE WONDERLAND" BY EARTH, WIND & FIRE") 291 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:33,673 I Dance 292 00:19:35,049 --> 00:19:37,176 ♫ Boogie wonderland 293 00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:39,637 3 Ha, ha! 294 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,721 I Dance 295 00:19:42,056 --> 00:19:43,057 ♫ Boogie wonderland 296 00:19:43,224 --> 00:19:44,684 VERDINE WHITE: When we went to Montserrat, 297 00:19:44,809 --> 00:19:46,435 we had been coming off all those hit records, 298 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,814 those big hits, and we wanted to pull away from that 299 00:19:49,939 --> 00:19:54,110 and be grounded, cos we were musicians first. 300 00:19:54,276 --> 00:19:56,862 So we wanted to go back to our roots and just play some music. 301 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:04,787 For us, the biggest thing was the whole experience of just going there. 302 00:20:04,912 --> 00:20:09,959 And I had heard the ladies that were working in the field with the machetes, 303 00:20:10,084 --> 00:20:13,921 when they were bringing our equipment from the airport to the studio, 304 00:20:14,046 --> 00:20:17,508 you know, the big cases with Earth, Wind & Fire on them, 305 00:20:17,633 --> 00:20:20,386 they had their machetes and they dropped them and applauded. 306 00:20:21,387 --> 00:20:24,598 Cos they knew we were coming. They just applauded the cases. 307 00:20:24,724 --> 00:20:27,810 We hadn't even gotten there yet. And it was beautiful. 308 00:20:27,935 --> 00:20:32,732 & Why do you hang your head 309 00:20:33,441 --> 00:20:38,279 ♫ And never, never satisfy the loneliness you tread 310 00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:44,326 ♫ Spending your life in the falling rain... 311 00:20:44,452 --> 00:20:48,873 If anything, I think because of where it was, 312 00:20:48,998 --> 00:20:51,333 it touched our spirit in a different kind of way. 313 00:20:51,459 --> 00:20:54,670 You didn't feel anything other than just joy in the music. 314 00:20:54,754 --> 00:20:57,423 There was no rush either, there was no clock. 315 00:20:57,548 --> 00:20:59,759 And by being away from everything and everybody 316 00:20:59,842 --> 00:21:02,470 and from, "We need another hit record, we need another hit record." 317 00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:05,473 And we just put that aside, and said, "We're gonna do a double record." 318 00:21:05,598 --> 00:21:08,392 You know... And we're just gonna play some music. 319 00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:12,563 And we actually mapped out the whole record there. 320 00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:14,940 Top to bottom, just in conversation. 321 00:21:15,065 --> 00:21:18,360 It was the early '80s. Record company budgets were reasonable, 322 00:21:18,486 --> 00:21:23,157 and afforded artists to go and take over a studio for a while, 323 00:21:23,324 --> 00:21:24,575 a residential studio. 324 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:28,329 So when you went to Montserrat, it was yours. 325 00:21:28,454 --> 00:21:30,122 It was your environment. 326 00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:34,585 Your bar, your kitchen, your whole place. 327 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:39,465 So it was something that was really quite special. 328 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:43,344 There weren't many residential studios of that quality. 329 00:21:43,469 --> 00:21:48,224 It was like it was all one big band. It was like everybody was in the band. 330 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:52,394 George the cook was in the band, the housekeeper was in the band. 331 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,231 It just all kind of overlapped, it was not separate. 332 00:21:55,397 --> 00:21:58,067 It was like one big beautiful thing. 333 00:21:58,192 --> 00:22:01,111 FRANCIS: Earth, Wind & Fire were very lovely. 334 00:22:01,237 --> 00:22:03,906 They came right here in this house. 335 00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:08,577 I invite them to come for dinner. Some of them came. 336 00:22:08,702 --> 00:22:12,081 And when they came, I had a daughter, a pretty daughter. 337 00:22:12,206 --> 00:22:13,833 One of them wanted the daughter, 338 00:22:13,958 --> 00:22:17,336 but he didn't get that chance. (LAUGHS) 339 00:22:17,461 --> 00:22:21,465 STEVE JACKSON: The staff all had their own quirks. 340 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:22,883 Blues, one of the drivers, 341 00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:25,845 whenever he wanted to say something, he'd go, "Let me talk." 342 00:22:25,928 --> 00:22:28,764 Earth, Wind & Fire have a track on that album called Let Me Talk. 343 00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:32,893 For a band to come in and write a song about a driver, 344 00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:34,854 must've had an influence. 345 00:22:34,979 --> 00:22:37,481 I think in order to build a studio that people love, 346 00:22:37,606 --> 00:22:39,525 it's all based around the staff. 347 00:22:39,650 --> 00:22:41,652 Montserrat was a bit like Fawlty Towers. 348 00:22:41,777 --> 00:22:44,113 It had these crazy characters running around. 349 00:22:44,238 --> 00:22:48,576 Because it was a single studio space, with no other bands there, 350 00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:51,620 the characters that worked in the studios themselves 351 00:22:51,745 --> 00:22:53,664 became part of people's lives. 352 00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:56,584 Tappy Morgan, or George Morgan, was the chef. 353 00:22:56,709 --> 00:22:58,002 He was great. He was very emotional. 354 00:22:58,127 --> 00:23:01,463 We all remember George, the chef, I think. 355 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:05,384 He was quite an imposing gentleman. 356 00:23:05,509 --> 00:23:07,595 GEORGE "TAPPY" MORGAN: That was the best job 357 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,929 I ever had in my entire life. 358 00:23:09,054 --> 00:23:14,101 Every band... gave me a big tip. 359 00:23:14,226 --> 00:23:16,020 And you know the reason why? 360 00:23:16,145 --> 00:23:19,315 Because I made them good food. And everybody was happy. 361 00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:24,069 Phil Collins, Eric Clapton, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Paul McCartney. 362 00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:29,950 All the guys liked the island. They called it Strangers' Paradise. 363 00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:32,703 (I " HAPPINESS” BY BASS OVER BABYLON) 364 00:23:42,838 --> 00:23:44,340 Do you want something else to drink? 365 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:07,237 We would all be in the office, and we had this telex machine. 366 00:24:07,363 --> 00:24:10,908 Remember we didn't have email or any of this stuff in those days. 367 00:24:10,991 --> 00:24:15,037 We would be there, and suddenly you would hear tap, tap, tap... 368 00:24:15,162 --> 00:24:18,207 And we would walk out there and have a look. 369 00:24:18,332 --> 00:24:22,962 "Paul McCartney, 2nd February to 28th February." 370 00:24:23,045 --> 00:24:24,380 And that would be it. 371 00:24:24,546 --> 00:24:27,466 (HUMS MELODY) 372 00:24:29,635 --> 00:24:31,053 Something like that. 373 00:24:31,178 --> 00:24:34,932 ♫ I've been wandering without you by my side 374 00:24:35,015 --> 00:24:38,143 ♫ Without you by my side 375 00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:42,481 I know what it is. You need to go to the G. 376 00:24:42,606 --> 00:24:44,733 (SINGS) 377 00:24:46,193 --> 00:24:49,738 MCCARTNEY: After the Beatles, none of us wanted to work with George. 378 00:24:49,863 --> 00:24:52,783 It wasn't that we didn't want to be produced by him. 379 00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:58,205 We all would have loved the discipline and the expertise that George has, 380 00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:00,290 but it was that he'd been associated with the Beatles. 381 00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:02,710 GEORGE MARTIN: We were very apprehensive about it to begin with, 382 00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:03,877 both of us I think, 383 00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:07,131 because although we've been very good friends over the years, 384 00:25:07,256 --> 00:25:12,177 not having actually had to have the hassles of working, 385 00:25:12,302 --> 00:25:15,014 we were all a little bit not sure about it. 386 00:25:15,097 --> 00:25:19,893 GILES MARTIN: At that stage, Paul was working with my father near London 387 00:25:20,019 --> 00:25:22,771 on two albums, Tug of War and Pipes of Peace, 388 00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:25,190 and my father persuaded Paul to go to Montserrat. 389 00:25:25,315 --> 00:25:29,403 ATKIN: Because I was the chief engineer, I got the call from George, like, 390 00:25:29,570 --> 00:25:31,196 "You built this place." 391 00:25:31,321 --> 00:25:35,075 If Paul McCartney's coming in and it's a success, 392 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,828 it's like getting the housekeeping seal of approval. 393 00:25:37,953 --> 00:25:39,663 So, it better work. 394 00:25:39,788 --> 00:25:43,625 REPORTER: It's now 14 hours since John Lennon was shot here, 395 00:25:43,751 --> 00:25:47,296 at the entrance to the Dakota Building on West 72nd Street 396 00:25:47,421 --> 00:25:50,049 in the center of New York. In those 14 hours, 397 00:25:50,174 --> 00:25:54,053 there has been a crowd here standing in more or less silent vigils. 398 00:25:54,136 --> 00:25:57,056 The flowers have been piling up at the gate. 399 00:26:06,774 --> 00:26:09,401 GEORGE MARTIN: I feel frightfully sorry for Yoko and Sean, 400 00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:12,071 and all the people who loved him so much. 401 00:26:12,154 --> 00:26:15,908 I also feel very angry, that it's such a senseless thing to happen, 402 00:26:16,033 --> 00:26:19,119 that one of the great people that have happened this century 403 00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:22,331 can be just wiped out by madness. I'm very angry about it. 404 00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:30,798 ATKIN: Paul came down to the island, 405 00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:33,884 sadly only a few weeks after Lennon died. 406 00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:36,887 And it was touch and go before Christmas 407 00:26:37,012 --> 00:26:39,515 as to whether this actually was going to happen. 408 00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:42,601 They were very, very nervous. 409 00:26:42,726 --> 00:26:46,021 An entire security firm from New York City flew down 410 00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:47,940 ahead of the band arriving. 411 00:26:49,024 --> 00:26:53,862 And they would go everywhere, just to protect the band. 412 00:26:53,987 --> 00:26:57,282 And they didn't even have a good time, because they were just being a nuisance. 413 00:26:57,407 --> 00:26:59,118 You don't need that security in Montserrat. 414 00:27:00,035 --> 00:27:02,538 ROSE WILLOCK: You need to understand, that in Montserrat, 415 00:27:02,704 --> 00:27:08,001 if you're a cricketer or an athlete, 416 00:27:08,127 --> 00:27:10,087 people will be asking for your autograph. 417 00:27:10,170 --> 00:27:14,049 If you're a musician, they hear you on the radio all the time, no big deal. 418 00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:16,301 So they sent their security guards packing. 419 00:27:16,426 --> 00:27:20,472 They would chill out in Kinsale, in Salem, at the local bars. 420 00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:22,516 Just chill out like how we are right now, 421 00:27:22,683 --> 00:27:25,269 and drink and get drunk and carry on and all of that, no big deal. 422 00:27:25,769 --> 00:27:28,647 I Well, I used to fly when I was a kid 423 00:27:28,772 --> 00:27:32,109 ♫ And I didn't cry if it hurt a bit 424 00:27:32,192 --> 00:27:34,987 ♪ On a carpet ride to a foreign land 425 00:27:35,112 --> 00:27:37,990 ♪ At the time of Davy Crockett 426 00:27:39,533 --> 00:27:42,202 4 But it wasn't always such a pretty sight 427 00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:45,789 ♫ Cos we used to fight like cats and dogs 428 00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:48,834 4 Till we made it up in the ballroom 429 00:27:50,586 --> 00:27:56,091 ♪ Ballroom dancing made a man of me 430 00:27:56,884 --> 00:27:59,678 ♫ One, two, three, four 431 00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:04,183 JACKSON: Paul turned up with a whole entourage of stars. 432 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:07,853 Through Carl Perkins and Stanley Clarke on bass 433 00:28:07,978 --> 00:28:09,771 and Stevie Wonder, of course. 434 00:28:09,897 --> 00:28:11,857 MCCARTNEY: I had this song called Ebony and Ivory , 435 00:28:11,982 --> 00:28:14,359 which is about harmony between races. 436 00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:16,236 Because it was Ebony and Ivory 437 00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:19,239 I thought, "I'll be the ivory, so I need an ebony."” 438 00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:23,619 So, I thought my best choice would be Stevie Wonder, if I could get him. 439 00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:29,166 So, I telephoned Stevie and said, "Do you like the idea of doing this?" 440 00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:32,836 And he said, "Yeah." So he came down to Montserrat. 441 00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:35,380 (I "EBONY AND IVORY" BY PAUL MCCARTNEY AND STEVIE WONDER) 442 00:28:35,505 --> 00:28:40,260 & Ebony and ivory 443 00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:45,891 ♫ Live together in perfect harmony 444 00:28:46,016 --> 00:28:50,520 ♪ Side by side on my piano keyboard 445 00:28:50,646 --> 00:28:55,609 ♫ Oh Lord, why don't we? 446 00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:58,904 JACKSON: I think they liked the whole experience. 447 00:28:59,029 --> 00:29:03,951 When the recording was going well and everything was happening, 448 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:07,246 they'd take some time off, and they wanted to go and play. 449 00:29:07,371 --> 00:29:10,624 So they'd go down to the local bar and they would jam. 450 00:29:10,999 --> 00:29:13,543 There was one night, Stevie said to me, 451 00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:16,630 "I wanna go and play somewhere. Can you fix it up?" I said, "Sure." 452 00:29:16,797 --> 00:29:21,343 I phoned up the Agouti and I said, "Is your piano plugged in on the stage?" 453 00:29:21,468 --> 00:29:24,179 And they said, "Yeah, but we're just about to close." 454 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:28,267 And I said, "No, don't do that. Don't you close tonight." 455 00:29:28,350 --> 00:29:30,435 And Stevie went down there and played. 456 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,272 He played there till four in the morning. 457 00:29:35,274 --> 00:29:38,068 WONDER:{ I've enjoyed my stay here in Montserrat 458 00:29:38,193 --> 00:29:39,987 (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) 459 00:29:42,239 --> 00:29:44,783 3 You know, this is my first time coming out 460 00:29:45,826 --> 00:29:47,494 So, at the end of the night... 461 00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:50,289 At that time, we were playing for ten percent of the bar. 462 00:29:50,414 --> 00:29:53,458 Whatever the bar take was, we would get ten percent. 463 00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:56,295 That night, we got a lot of money 464 00:29:56,420 --> 00:30:00,507 because Stevie Wonder left US$5,000 in the bar for the band. 465 00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:03,885 So among the five of us, we got about US$1,000 each. 466 00:30:04,011 --> 00:30:05,971 That was our biggest payday. (LAUGHS) 467 00:30:06,096 --> 00:30:07,639 For us, in Montserrat, 468 00:30:08,598 --> 00:30:13,020 it was just amazing. There's not a word to describe that. 469 00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:16,815 And in some place else, you couldn't pay for it. 470 00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:20,861 ♫ And you know my friend, Paul McCartney 471 00:30:23,071 --> 00:30:25,824 ♪ One of the nicest people I've ever met 472 00:30:25,949 --> 00:30:27,743 (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) 473 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,708 I And the members of this band 474 00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:38,003 4 And all the people at the studio and staff 475 00:30:38,128 --> 00:30:41,173 3 I never will forget 476 00:30:45,052 --> 00:30:49,014 I want everybody to say this. Say it. Wait. 477 00:30:49,139 --> 00:30:50,515 3 Montserrat 478 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,683 Say it. 479 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:54,478 - AUDIENCE: ♫ Montserrat - WONDER: It Montserrat 480 00:30:54,603 --> 00:30:56,021 Say it. 481 00:30:56,146 --> 00:30:58,565 - AUDIENCE: & Montserrat - WONDER AND AUDIENCE: & Montserrat 482 00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:00,525 WONDER: Say it. 483 00:31:00,650 --> 00:31:02,444 ATKIN: When Stevie Wonder arrived, 484 00:31:02,569 --> 00:31:05,739 he and Paul were having such a good time in the studio, 485 00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:07,574 the sessions were overrunning 486 00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:11,370 and Paul, I think he had Air Force Two booked 487 00:31:11,495 --> 00:31:14,247 to go back from Antigua back to London. 488 00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:16,917 I can remember sitting next to the telex machine 489 00:31:17,042 --> 00:31:19,419 and this huge great telex comes rattling through saying, 490 00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:21,380 "If you don't get here in the next two hours, 491 00:31:21,505 --> 00:31:23,507 we have to change the crews out again 492 00:31:23,632 --> 00:31:26,676 and it will cost you another $10,000," or whatever it was. 493 00:31:26,802 --> 00:31:31,390 And I just kind of turned to John at the time and just said, 494 00:31:32,349 --> 00:31:35,936 "That's about what we're charging him a week, isn't it?" (LAUGHS) 495 00:31:40,565 --> 00:31:44,736 JACKSON: When the band finished, we took them all to the airport, 496 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:49,741 we loaded them on their planes, waved our bye-byes, and they all left. 497 00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:53,995 We would all drive up to St George's Hill 498 00:31:54,121 --> 00:31:57,541 and we would all sit up there, maybe having a beer, 499 00:31:57,666 --> 00:32:01,753 really not saying much, just clearing our heads. 500 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,214 And then, OK, back to the studio. 501 00:32:04,339 --> 00:32:07,843 And that was it. Relaxation over and we'd get back. 502 00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:11,847 But that was special, we'd just gotten through a gig, 503 00:32:12,013 --> 00:32:14,683 and everything was done, everything was fine. 504 00:32:14,808 --> 00:32:17,602 Now we were going back to get ready for the next one. 505 00:32:17,727 --> 00:32:22,732 1981, we didn't have a day off. We worked back to back. 506 00:32:22,858 --> 00:32:25,277 (5 "ROXANNE" BY THE POLICE) 507 00:32:27,154 --> 00:32:30,866 ANDY SUMMERS: We were coming out of the punk scene in London, 508 00:32:31,032 --> 00:32:35,745 which went from about 1977 to about 1980. 509 00:32:35,871 --> 00:32:37,289 Then it sort of petered out. 510 00:32:37,414 --> 00:32:40,459 But it was a wonderful, colorful moment in music history. 511 00:32:40,584 --> 00:32:44,337 It was the crucible for The Police, that's where we started. 512 00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:46,631 3 Roxanne 513 00:32:47,757 --> 00:32:50,510 4 You don't have to put on the red light 514 00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:52,888 STING: The Police made three albums 515 00:32:53,054 --> 00:33:00,145 in dingy, sunless recording studios in England and in Holland, 516 00:33:00,270 --> 00:33:03,982 where we would work from ten in the evening till dawn. 517 00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:07,861 And we lived that kind of existence for a couple of years. 518 00:33:10,906 --> 00:33:14,075 Welcome to MTV Music Television, 519 00:33:14,201 --> 00:33:18,205 the world's first 24-hour stereo video music channel. 520 00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:22,083 STING: I think the success of The Police really was a happy accident, 521 00:33:22,209 --> 00:33:26,588 because it was the beginning of the MTV era, 522 00:33:26,713 --> 00:33:31,218 and we had a whole slew of videos we'd already made 523 00:33:31,343 --> 00:33:36,598 and there was this channel, custom-built to receive these videos. 524 00:33:36,723 --> 00:33:43,522 And we became a staple on MTV, which, of course, added to our success. 525 00:33:44,481 --> 00:33:46,691 - STING: It's nice to be here in Athens. - (CHEERING) 526 00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:51,363 What do you call the place? Athena or something? 527 00:33:52,155 --> 00:33:54,366 STEWART COPELAND: By the third album, we'd had a couple of hits 528 00:33:54,491 --> 00:33:55,867 and the record company are saying, 529 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:59,538 "This is now going to be the big one, if you get this next album right." 530 00:33:59,621 --> 00:34:02,374 And the record company were there with us to ensure 531 00:34:02,499 --> 00:34:06,044 that we did not stray from the path of commercial success. 532 00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:11,633 So, for the next album we went 12 hours' flight away from the record company, 533 00:34:11,758 --> 00:34:15,220 down in the Caribbean, at Montserrat Studios. 534 00:34:15,345 --> 00:34:16,930 3 As I walk into a room 535 00:34:17,097 --> 00:34:18,682 ♫ I'm a three-line whip 536 00:34:18,807 --> 00:34:20,392 ♪ I'm the sort of thing they ban 537 00:34:20,517 --> 00:34:21,726 ♪ I'm a walking disaster 538 00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:23,395 ♫ I'm a demolition man 539 00:34:26,231 --> 00:34:29,943 STING: And it just looked like we would have died and gone to heaven. 540 00:34:30,110 --> 00:34:35,574 Because there was a tropical sea and beautiful skies, 541 00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:39,786 and jungle and a swimming pool right outside of the studio. 542 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:44,082 And you could actually see the daylight through the studio. 543 00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:47,586 This was sort of the rock-star dream. 544 00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:51,506 A fantastic state-of-the-art studio in the Caribbean. 545 00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:53,967 I mean, this was it, this was like the Beatles or something. 546 00:34:54,134 --> 00:34:57,846 We sort of reached the pinnacle with going to those studios. 547 00:34:57,971 --> 00:34:59,639 STING: George would come in occasionally, 548 00:34:59,764 --> 00:35:01,099 but he wasn't our producer. 549 00:35:01,224 --> 00:35:03,351 Our producer was a man called Hugh Padgham. 550 00:35:03,476 --> 00:35:08,148 George was more of a presiding genius around. 551 00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:11,651 He was rarely in the studio with us. 552 00:35:12,569 --> 00:35:15,280 The team were wonderful. They looked after us. 553 00:35:15,405 --> 00:35:20,493 I would run up the hill every morning from the villa and jump in the pool, 554 00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:24,623 and then write lyrics or write a tune, and then make the album. 555 00:35:24,706 --> 00:35:27,667 I developed a relationship with the island 556 00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:29,502 and the people who live there. 557 00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:34,633 I learned to windsurf on Montserrat. I was taught by a guy called Danny. 558 00:35:34,758 --> 00:35:38,219 He was very patient with me because I was a very slow learner. 559 00:35:38,345 --> 00:35:41,848 He's a very brilliant man, very good friend of mine. 560 00:35:42,932 --> 00:35:44,184 Respects me much. 561 00:35:44,309 --> 00:35:50,190 He said, "Danny, you taught me something that I'd never known how to do. 562 00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:53,026 The people teach me or taught me things, 563 00:35:53,193 --> 00:35:56,279 they are my hero, and you are one of my hero." 564 00:35:56,404 --> 00:35:58,198 Right, the dance steps. 565 00:35:58,323 --> 00:36:00,742 (SNAPS FINGERS) 566 00:36:03,787 --> 00:36:06,790 4 Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh 567 00:36:07,791 --> 00:36:10,418 4 Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh 568 00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:14,506 4 Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh 569 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:18,093 4 Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh 570 00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:22,389 4 Whoa-oh-oh-oh, whoa-oh 571 00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:27,268 OLIVER: We did some backing vocals for The Police. 572 00:36:27,686 --> 00:36:29,062 RILEY: It was quite funny, actually. 573 00:36:29,229 --> 00:36:32,899 Twice, I went into the studio to do backing vocals. 574 00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:34,067 They're the same. 575 00:36:34,234 --> 00:36:36,403 - Everybody come and sing. - Everybody come and sing. 576 00:36:36,528 --> 00:36:39,948 - They wanted, like, a choir. - Sound like a choir. 577 00:36:40,073 --> 00:36:42,534 (BACKING TRACK PLAYS) 578 00:36:42,659 --> 00:36:44,577 - Hang on, stop. - (MUSIC STOPS) 579 00:36:44,703 --> 00:36:46,287 OK, I understand. 580 00:36:46,413 --> 00:36:49,207 COPELAND: By this time in our career, our main songwriter had a technique, 581 00:36:49,332 --> 00:36:52,419 which is to not reveal his songs until we needed them. 582 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:57,757 And this song came in and we heard the demo, 583 00:36:57,882 --> 00:36:59,634 and we all could hear right away 584 00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:03,304 that the demo Sting made by himself, it's already a hit. 585 00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:05,098 Just put that sucker out right away. 586 00:37:05,265 --> 00:37:08,601 But that didn't suit our self-image as a band. 587 00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:11,980 (SONG CONTINUES) 588 00:37:15,608 --> 00:37:19,070 And we tried every way. The punk version, the reggae version. 589 00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:23,116 And so, eventually, one morning I arrived in the studio, "Fuck it! 590 00:37:23,283 --> 00:37:26,745 Just fucking play your fucked-up demo, 591 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:29,831 just fucking... just tell me where the fucking changes are!" 592 00:37:29,956 --> 00:37:33,001 I knew where the changes were, because we'd tried it every which way. 593 00:37:33,126 --> 00:37:35,670 It's a complicated song with a lot of different parts. 594 00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:38,548 And so, "OK, roll tape and I'll play with the demo." 595 00:37:38,673 --> 00:37:41,551 And we did, and the record that is the record 596 00:37:41,676 --> 00:37:46,347 is that morning recording of that song in one take. 597 00:37:46,473 --> 00:37:49,017 4 Every little thing she does is magic 598 00:37:49,142 --> 00:37:51,728 ♪ Everything she do just turns me on 599 00:37:52,395 --> 00:37:54,856 ♪ Even though my life before was tragic 600 00:37:54,981 --> 00:37:57,650 ♫ Now I know my love for her goes on 601 00:37:57,776 --> 00:38:01,279 4 Every little thing she does is magic 602 00:38:01,404 --> 00:38:03,531 ♪ Everything she do just turns me on 603 00:38:03,656 --> 00:38:06,451 ♪ Even though my life before was tragic 604 00:38:06,576 --> 00:38:10,497 ♫ Now I know my love for her goes on 605 00:38:10,622 --> 00:38:13,374 Then we recorded in the studio. 606 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:18,338 I think Andy was dancing on George's prized mixing desk, 607 00:38:18,463 --> 00:38:20,215 which didn't go down well with Mr. Martin. 608 00:38:20,381 --> 00:38:22,759 But he didn't harm it. He was very light. 609 00:38:22,842 --> 00:38:24,511 We just had fun, it was a fun video. 610 00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:25,678 ♫ Magic 611 00:38:25,804 --> 00:38:28,640 ♫ Magic, magic, magic 612 00:38:28,765 --> 00:38:31,392 ♫ Whoa-oh 613 00:38:31,518 --> 00:38:33,394 3 Yo-oh 614 00:38:34,521 --> 00:38:37,565 ♪ Fe-oh-oh-oh, oh 615 00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:40,527 SUMMERS: Being on an island like that, you can be in the bungalow 616 00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:43,154 in a dry, dusty patch of sand down near the beach, 617 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:45,824 and you'll be on your own, there is no one else. 618 00:38:45,949 --> 00:38:49,702 So it was kind of isolating, and it brought out some really good things. 619 00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:52,497 Ghost in the Machine was another major hit album, 620 00:38:52,622 --> 00:38:57,210 but my wife called me and said, "I want to get divorced," that's it. 621 00:38:57,377 --> 00:39:03,174 In fact, I think was all three of us probably got divorced 622 00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:06,719 or started divorce proceedings during Ghost in the Machine. 623 00:39:10,515 --> 00:39:16,062 STING: It was a period of stratospheric success. 624 00:39:16,604 --> 00:39:21,401 The part of that, the speed and the size of that success, 625 00:39:21,526 --> 00:39:24,404 also distorts your perception of it. 626 00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:28,741 And we were so filled with this forward momentum, 627 00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:31,953 we didn't really get a chance to appreciate it, 628 00:39:32,078 --> 00:39:36,249 except for Montserrat, which allowed us to calm down. 629 00:39:36,416 --> 00:39:38,418 (SERENE MUSIC) 630 00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:58,187 COOPER: Music is the liquid architecture of our emotions, 631 00:39:58,313 --> 00:39:59,772 and George was a wonderful architect. 632 00:39:59,898 --> 00:40:03,651 He had a way of putting things in place, in the right place. 633 00:40:03,776 --> 00:40:08,948 In a place that was comfortable and a place that grew, it was fruitful. 634 00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:13,620 (BIRDS CALL) 635 00:40:13,745 --> 00:40:16,456 () "BENNIE AND THE JETS" BY ELTON JOHN) 636 00:40:16,581 --> 00:40:18,917 (CHEERING) 637 00:40:23,463 --> 00:40:26,424 ♪ Hey, kids, shake it loose together 638 00:40:26,549 --> 00:40:29,302 4 The spotlight's hitting something... 639 00:40:29,469 --> 00:40:33,473 The first main wave of success for Elton and the band 640 00:40:33,598 --> 00:40:40,605 was really from, like, 1971, '72 till '76. 641 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:43,232 Just a four-piece with Elton, me, Dee and Nigel. 642 00:40:43,358 --> 00:40:46,069 We'd made all those classic records in the '70s, 643 00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:48,947 and then there was a gap where we weren't all together. 644 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:50,949 We all did different things. Elton retired. 645 00:40:51,074 --> 00:40:56,788 And he called me in '81 and said, "I'm gonna put the band back together." 646 00:40:58,206 --> 00:40:59,207 I don't know. 647 00:40:59,332 --> 00:41:03,628 CHRIS THOMAS: I was recording with Elton, in Paris, 648 00:41:03,753 --> 00:41:06,172 and we weren't getting much done. 649 00:41:06,881 --> 00:41:12,512 Um... that's the diplomatic answer. (LAUGHS) 650 00:41:12,637 --> 00:41:15,974 I spoke to Elton's manager. 651 00:41:16,057 --> 00:41:19,560 He went to see Elton, and all of a sudden... 652 00:41:19,686 --> 00:41:23,564 This was, I think, on a Tuesday and we were flying back to London. 653 00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:27,318 And I was told that we were actually going to Montserrat on Friday. 654 00:41:30,613 --> 00:41:34,200 We arrived there, and it was just such a shock to suddenly be there. 655 00:41:34,325 --> 00:41:38,121 It was like, "Oi! What are we doing here?" (LAUGHS) 656 00:41:38,246 --> 00:41:41,541 We had a couple of days to get over the jetlag, and then we were off. 657 00:41:41,666 --> 00:41:43,668 NIGEL OLSSON: Montserrat was a whole different deal. 658 00:41:43,793 --> 00:41:47,046 The room was fantastic. It just had a great atmosphere. 659 00:41:47,171 --> 00:41:50,967 It had George all over it, the studio. It was just so cool. 660 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:54,554 I hadn't got any material before I arrived in Montserrat, 661 00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:57,140 and I wrote 12 songs there. 662 00:41:57,265 --> 00:41:59,684 It's always the danger that you might not be able to write. 663 00:41:59,809 --> 00:42:01,102 So I quite like that. 664 00:42:01,227 --> 00:42:03,396 For the first half an hour when I was trying to write, 665 00:42:03,563 --> 00:42:05,273 I couldn't write anything and I was panicking. 666 00:42:05,398 --> 00:42:09,193 But the way we write, it's very strange. With Bernie and I, it's something... 667 00:42:09,318 --> 00:42:11,821 It just works, there's a magic there. 668 00:42:11,946 --> 00:42:14,157 Until Too Low for Zero, with Elton and Bernie, 669 00:42:15,158 --> 00:42:16,576 it had been all over the place. 670 00:42:16,701 --> 00:42:19,871 They hadn't been together much, hadn't been writing together. 671 00:42:19,996 --> 00:42:23,041 And this was the first album back. It was all Bernie. 672 00:42:24,042 --> 00:42:26,085 And all the original band. 673 00:42:26,210 --> 00:42:29,547 So it was quite a remarkable event. 674 00:42:29,672 --> 00:42:31,716 OLSSON: We were all on the same wavelength. 675 00:42:31,841 --> 00:42:35,136 We didn't have to tell each other how it should be. 676 00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:40,349 And the beauty also was that we heard the songs being written. 677 00:42:40,475 --> 00:42:42,477 So we were in there from the start. 678 00:42:42,643 --> 00:42:45,855 (I "I GUESS THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES"” BY ELTON JOHN) 679 00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:54,947 JOHNSTONE: I remember the day 680 00:42:55,073 --> 00:42:57,658 that we wrote I Guess That's Why They Call It the Blues, 681 00:42:57,784 --> 00:43:01,412 because to me, it's one of the greatest love songs of all time. 682 00:43:01,579 --> 00:43:05,083 And we wrote it in 20 minutes. Again, it wasn't like a big thing. 683 00:43:05,208 --> 00:43:08,252 It was like, "OK, this, this, this. Yeah, that sounds great.” 684 00:43:08,377 --> 00:43:10,213 And, "Let's get the guys in, let's record it." 685 00:43:10,338 --> 00:43:14,926 3 And I guess that's why they call it the blues 686 00:43:15,051 --> 00:43:17,386 ♪ Time on my hands 687 00:43:17,512 --> 00:43:21,015 ♪ Could be time spent with you 688 00:43:21,099 --> 00:43:23,768 ♪ Laughing like children 689 00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:27,105 ♫ Living like lovers 690 00:43:27,230 --> 00:43:29,816 4 Rolling like thunder 691 00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:32,819 I Under the covers 692 00:43:34,195 --> 00:43:37,740 3 And I guess that's why they call it the blues 693 00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,785 THOMAS: There was something about being on the same site. 694 00:43:40,910 --> 00:43:46,290 It has this strange effect of bringing everybody together. 695 00:43:46,415 --> 00:43:48,793 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 696 00:43:51,671 --> 00:43:54,924 One day, Elton said, "Where'd did you go last night?" 697 00:43:55,049 --> 00:43:58,094 I said, "We went to this new place. We found this new place." 698 00:43:58,177 --> 00:44:00,847 He said, "Where is it?" I said, "I'll show you." 699 00:44:00,972 --> 00:44:03,683 So, we were driving along 700 00:44:03,808 --> 00:44:07,311 and we go past this totally rundown place 701 00:44:07,436 --> 00:44:10,022 with a bit of corrugated iron over the top. 702 00:44:10,148 --> 00:44:12,483 And Elton goes, "I love places like that. 703 00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:14,360 Nobody ever invites me to places like that." 704 00:44:14,485 --> 00:44:16,279 I'm going, "Yeah, sure!" 705 00:44:16,404 --> 00:44:18,823 It's, you know, the bloke who lives in the Ritz all the time. 706 00:44:18,948 --> 00:44:20,700 So, we went there. 707 00:44:20,825 --> 00:44:25,037 All right now, this is where we do portionable dining. 708 00:44:25,163 --> 00:44:28,207 MORGAN: The Village Place was just like ordinary place, 709 00:44:28,332 --> 00:44:30,334 like in the ghetto, 710 00:44:30,459 --> 00:44:34,505 where everybody hangs around and they serve chicken wings 711 00:44:34,672 --> 00:44:37,842 and you go into the bar and have some bush rum. 712 00:44:38,217 --> 00:44:40,720 RILEY: But I liked Elton John very much, 713 00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:43,931 because he makes the whole place lively, very lively. 714 00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:47,518 Yeah, whenever he come here, man, he just come out, 715 00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:49,478 - and start dancing. - He's a good guy. 716 00:44:49,604 --> 00:44:52,148 Just dancing in the yard. 717 00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:53,858 RILEY: He was a good guy. 718 00:44:53,983 --> 00:44:57,111 OLIVER: He would take off his shades and give it to whoever wanted it. 719 00:44:57,195 --> 00:45:02,116 Whenever he goes to the Village Place, the bar is open until he leave. 720 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,494 Open bar. Anybody who come here, you get free drinks. 721 00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:10,041 He runs an open tab. That's him. He's very generous. 722 00:45:10,541 --> 00:45:13,711 Guys that are down, he brings them up, you know? 723 00:45:13,836 --> 00:45:15,129 (UPBEAT MUSIC) 724 00:45:15,213 --> 00:45:16,756 MICHAEL PAUL STAVROU: After dinner, 725 00:45:18,216 --> 00:45:22,553 we would all congregate back into the control room with pifia coladas 726 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:24,764 and sit back and listen to the album. 727 00:45:24,889 --> 00:45:31,020 And then, Elton would play it again. And then, a third time. 728 00:45:31,145 --> 00:45:33,481 About a week into the album, 729 00:45:33,606 --> 00:45:38,986 everybody went to bed after playing the album through only once, 730 00:45:39,111 --> 00:45:40,279 which upset Elton. 731 00:45:40,404 --> 00:45:42,907 He started ranting about something about throwing... 732 00:45:43,032 --> 00:45:45,576 "It was a shit album. I'm gonna throw the tapes in the pool." 733 00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:49,413 And Mike, very, very swiftly, brilliant idea, 734 00:45:49,538 --> 00:45:53,459 gave him about six blank two-inch tapes. 735 00:45:54,085 --> 00:45:56,379 Elton went out and threw the whole lot in the swimming pool. 736 00:45:56,504 --> 00:45:57,630 That could've been the album. 737 00:45:57,797 --> 00:46:00,258 (& "I'M STILL STANDING" BY ELTON JOHN) 738 00:46:06,889 --> 00:46:09,058 When we were working on Too Low for Zero, 739 00:46:09,183 --> 00:46:11,519 Dee had been suffering from cancer. 740 00:46:12,061 --> 00:46:15,439 So he wasn't in the studio all the time. 741 00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:18,859 Then we got a phone call one morning saying, 742 00:46:18,985 --> 00:46:21,821 "Nigel can't come in. He's not very well.” 743 00:46:21,946 --> 00:46:25,074 So Elton went, "What the fuck?" 744 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:28,869 He said, "They're all dropping like flies!" (LAUGHS) 745 00:46:28,995 --> 00:46:33,708 And over there in the distance, there's a kind of shelf by the window 746 00:46:33,874 --> 00:46:35,626 separating the control room and the studio, 747 00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:38,504 and there's this huge cloud of marijuana smoke. 748 00:46:38,629 --> 00:46:41,173 And lying there, absolutely prone, 749 00:46:41,299 --> 00:46:46,053 was Adrian who was in charge of all the logistics for the recordings. 750 00:46:46,178 --> 00:46:49,640 Out of this smoke this voice said, "Well, I'm still standing." 751 00:46:49,807 --> 00:46:54,020 Elton and I just looked at each other, we just collapsed with laughter. 752 00:46:54,145 --> 00:46:56,689 Then, the next minute, Elton picked himself up, 753 00:46:56,856 --> 00:46:59,442 phoned up Bernie and said, "I want you to write this song." 754 00:46:59,567 --> 00:47:01,402 ♪ I'm still standing 755 00:47:01,527 --> 00:47:02,945 ♫ Better than I ever did 756 00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:06,407 ♪ Looking like a true survivor 757 00:47:07,033 --> 00:47:09,201 ♫ Feeling like a little kid 758 00:47:10,328 --> 00:47:14,999 ♪ I'm still standing after all this time 759 00:47:15,124 --> 00:47:18,669 ♪' Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind 760 00:47:20,338 --> 00:47:22,381 3 I'm still standing... 761 00:47:23,132 --> 00:47:25,259 JOHNSTONE: George Martin came down 762 00:47:25,343 --> 00:47:27,511 when we were there doing Too Low for Zero. 763 00:47:27,636 --> 00:47:31,182 And later on, Chris told me that George had said to him 764 00:47:32,350 --> 00:47:34,727 that he couldn't believe the chemistry 765 00:47:34,894 --> 00:47:39,148 that was happening between the four of us in the studio. And... 766 00:47:40,149 --> 00:47:45,363 The only thing that he could liken it to was when he worked with the Beatles. 767 00:47:45,446 --> 00:47:48,491 When we heard that, it was like, "Shit, OK, I like that." 768 00:47:48,616 --> 00:47:51,535 I've got the same people around me now as I did 15 years ago. 769 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:53,371 We've been through ups and downs. 770 00:47:53,454 --> 00:47:56,582 And the pleasure of it all is being able to share it with these people, 771 00:47:56,707 --> 00:47:58,959 and after all that time, still be with them, 772 00:47:59,085 --> 00:48:01,253 and I think we're playing better. 773 00:48:02,254 --> 00:48:03,506 And it feels fantastic 774 00:48:03,631 --> 00:48:06,509 to be able to get a second chance at having that enthusiasm. 775 00:48:06,634 --> 00:48:09,804 And so, that more than anything else, it means a lot to me. 776 00:48:09,970 --> 00:48:12,598 ♫ It's a little bit funny 777 00:48:13,557 --> 00:48:16,143 ♪ This feeling inside... 778 00:48:16,268 --> 00:48:17,228 (LAUGHTER) 779 00:48:17,353 --> 00:48:19,105 3 I'm not one of those 780 00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:20,815 (LAUGHTER CONTINUES) 781 00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:23,484 I Who can easily hide... 782 00:48:23,609 --> 00:48:27,488 ROBINSON: We did all have good, fun times. He did three albums with us. 783 00:48:27,613 --> 00:48:31,158 One time, he said that he was leaving at 21st December. 784 00:48:31,283 --> 00:48:35,329 We were all getting excited because Montserrat's carnival is at Christmas. 785 00:48:35,413 --> 00:48:40,209 So, we're all thinking, "Soon as the band have gone, we'll all be partying." 786 00:48:40,334 --> 00:48:43,546 And he's like, "I think I'll stay." So he stayed. 787 00:48:44,463 --> 00:48:45,548 We had a fantastic time. 788 00:48:45,673 --> 00:48:48,676 It was like a big family, sitting at the table, enjoying Christmas. 789 00:48:48,801 --> 00:48:54,140 So, maybe with Elton, the excesses were very, very big, 790 00:48:54,265 --> 00:48:55,391 but it didn't make him happy. 791 00:48:55,474 --> 00:48:58,602 It might not have been anything to do with Montserrat, 792 00:48:58,727 --> 00:49:02,940 but he did have an experience that quite changed him, obviously. 793 00:49:03,065 --> 00:49:06,819 (SINGING AND SAXOPHONE SOLO) 794 00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:15,411 OLSSON: It was a place that was put there 795 00:49:15,494 --> 00:49:20,374 for people to understand themselves, to inspire the world. 796 00:49:20,458 --> 00:49:24,879 Because there was a lot of stuff came out of Montserrat that is forever. 797 00:49:25,045 --> 00:49:27,631 - One, two. - One, two. 798 00:49:28,591 --> 00:49:33,012 COOPER: In London, I was often overdubbing in the studios 799 00:49:33,137 --> 00:49:34,889 on work that had come from Montserrat. 800 00:49:35,055 --> 00:49:37,308 I would say sometimes, "This is from Montserrat." 801 00:49:37,433 --> 00:49:38,809 They'd say, "How did you know?" 802 00:49:38,976 --> 00:49:40,978 I'd say, "I can hear it, believe it or not." 803 00:49:41,103 --> 00:49:44,148 There's something in the air that's surrounding these notes. 804 00:49:44,273 --> 00:49:47,776 There's a sympathy between the notes, an understanding. 805 00:49:47,902 --> 00:49:49,737 That can only come when you're working with George 806 00:49:49,862 --> 00:49:51,739 or in one of his environments. 807 00:49:51,864 --> 00:49:53,365 (I "RIO" BY DURAN DURAN) 808 00:49:55,576 --> 00:50:01,165 3 Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand 809 00:50:02,124 --> 00:50:04,001 3 Just like that river 810 00:50:04,126 --> 00:50:07,421 4 Twisting through a dusty land 811 00:50:08,297 --> 00:50:10,424 IAN LITTLE: The '80s was probably 812 00:50:10,508 --> 00:50:15,221 one of the most inventive decades for pop music. 813 00:50:15,721 --> 00:50:20,434 You'd had the punk movement in '76, '77, then you had new wave, 814 00:50:20,518 --> 00:50:23,395 bridged the gap from the '70s into the '80s. 815 00:50:23,521 --> 00:50:26,357 And then you had this thing called the New Romantics, 816 00:50:26,482 --> 00:50:30,027 which was Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, Culture Club. 817 00:50:30,152 --> 00:50:32,196 And Duran were the biggest of the bunch. 818 00:50:32,321 --> 00:50:34,323 (FANS SHRIEK) 819 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:44,542 RHODES: We'd just finished the Rio album, 820 00:50:44,667 --> 00:50:46,085 and we were chasing The Police, 821 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:48,921 because they were a little bit older than us. 822 00:50:49,088 --> 00:50:52,383 They were ahead of us in America, and it was time to make another album. 823 00:50:52,508 --> 00:50:55,052 And then we thought, "We can't go back to England.” 824 00:50:55,177 --> 00:50:59,181 Because it was just a little too crazy with all the hysteria at that point. 825 00:50:59,306 --> 00:51:01,517 We couldn't really move in the street. 826 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,811 So we wanted to get as far away as we could. 827 00:51:03,936 --> 00:51:08,691 AIR Studios Montserrat looked very appealing from the brochures. 828 00:51:08,816 --> 00:51:12,820 And, of course, having George Martin involved, 829 00:51:12,945 --> 00:51:16,240 we figured that everything's gonna be perfect there. 830 00:51:16,365 --> 00:51:18,242 (♫ "THE REFLEX" BY DURAN DURAN) 831 00:51:21,996 --> 00:51:26,500 RHODES: When we arrived, it was like being in a surrealist painting. 832 00:51:27,376 --> 00:51:31,338 You go, and there's black sand everywhere, and the volcano, 833 00:51:31,463 --> 00:51:34,675 and these giant iguanas. 834 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,511 One thing that was a bit of a shock 835 00:51:37,595 --> 00:51:42,099 was that we were used to living our lives 836 00:51:42,224 --> 00:51:45,311 completely under media scrutiny. 837 00:51:45,436 --> 00:51:48,105 And it was days when you'd wake up 838 00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:52,026 and there'd be someone hiding in your hedge in your front garden. 839 00:51:52,192 --> 00:51:56,572 You'd have to draw the curtains quickly when you're having breakfast. 840 00:51:57,698 --> 00:52:02,036 So, suddenly there, there was no one. 841 00:52:02,202 --> 00:52:07,249 It was like suddenly going under water and there was silence. 842 00:52:07,374 --> 00:52:09,335 (INSECTS CHIRRUP) 843 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,341 (♫ "THE REFLEX" BY DURAN DURAN) 844 00:52:21,305 --> 00:52:23,974 LITTLE: In Montserrat, we had fun. 845 00:52:24,141 --> 00:52:26,852 We're not that straight-laced. We're making rock 'n' roll. 846 00:52:26,977 --> 00:52:29,021 When we first arrived, 847 00:52:29,188 --> 00:52:33,692 and when we made it known to the staff at the studio 848 00:52:33,817 --> 00:52:35,527 that we wanted some grass, 849 00:52:35,653 --> 00:52:39,740 within, I don't know, 15 minutes, some kid arrived with a plant 850 00:52:39,865 --> 00:52:42,785 that he just uprooted and stuck in a carrier bag. 851 00:52:43,535 --> 00:52:49,208 RHODES: For Simon, he loves sunshine and he loves being outdoors 852 00:52:49,333 --> 00:52:51,293 and he loves boats and water. 853 00:52:51,418 --> 00:52:56,006 So it was a dream to be able to be at a studio in the Caribbean, 854 00:52:56,173 --> 00:53:01,303 do a few hours' work, then go off and have fun in the sea. 855 00:53:01,428 --> 00:53:06,100 For me, really hot climates and isolation, 856 00:53:06,266 --> 00:53:11,355 personally are not so great for creativity 857 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,067 when you wanna do something with a little experimentation. 858 00:53:15,234 --> 00:53:20,114 And so I really had a bit of personality clash with it creatively. 859 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,868 And I ended up working into the night mostly in the studio, 860 00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:28,580 because there was no disruptions, people weren't running out of the door 861 00:53:28,706 --> 00:53:30,708 to jump in the swimming pool every five minutes. 862 00:53:30,833 --> 00:53:33,085 And I could actually focus on things. 863 00:53:33,252 --> 00:53:35,963 But, having said that, when we were there, 864 00:53:36,088 --> 00:53:39,550 we got the basis for the Seven and the Ragged Tiger album, 865 00:53:39,675 --> 00:53:42,678 The Reflex and The Union of the Snake. 866 00:53:42,761 --> 00:53:46,223 ♫ The reflex is a lonely child 867 00:53:46,348 --> 00:53:50,227 & Who's waiting by the park 868 00:53:50,352 --> 00:53:53,897 ♪ The reflex is in charge of finding 869 00:53:54,022 --> 00:53:57,735 3 Treasure in the dark 870 00:53:57,860 --> 00:54:00,988 4 And watching over lucky clover... 871 00:54:01,697 --> 00:54:05,909 Being in Montserrat, you certainly felt isolated from the real world. 872 00:54:06,034 --> 00:54:11,165 It did end up feeling like we were disconnected from the fans 873 00:54:11,331 --> 00:54:13,584 because we were just living in paradise, 874 00:54:13,709 --> 00:54:17,337 and that's why we decided we need to finish the album in a city. 875 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,134 RHODES: We went to Montserrat with all good intentions, 876 00:54:22,301 --> 00:54:25,095 and to George Martin's great credit, 877 00:54:25,262 --> 00:54:28,974 he pulled off something that was pretty extraordinary. 878 00:54:29,099 --> 00:54:36,607 But I'm not sure that we were in the right headspace 879 00:54:36,732 --> 00:54:39,401 to make the kind of record there 880 00:54:39,526 --> 00:54:43,572 that might have been a little more chilled. 881 00:54:43,697 --> 00:54:46,450 We wanted to make something full of energy. 882 00:54:46,575 --> 00:54:48,452 Duran Duran came, and they were young. 883 00:54:48,577 --> 00:54:52,331 As they were there, I think two of them celebrated their 21st birthday. 884 00:54:52,456 --> 00:54:54,625 And they were at the height of their fame. 885 00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:59,963 So, of course, they were probably wanting to be in the jet-set place. 886 00:55:00,088 --> 00:55:01,799 So, it wasn't exactly right for them. 887 00:55:01,924 --> 00:55:05,886 We had some other bands like Ultravox. They were young at the time. 888 00:55:06,011 --> 00:55:08,305 Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, they came. 889 00:55:08,430 --> 00:55:10,015 But it was right for them 890 00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:12,684 because they were ready to enjoy what Montserrat offered. 891 00:55:31,912 --> 00:55:33,789 LOU REED: We went to Montserrat once and recorded. 892 00:55:33,872 --> 00:55:35,332 That wasn't a good experience for me. 893 00:55:35,457 --> 00:55:39,336 Palm trees and the ocean and the sand's too relaxing. 894 00:55:39,461 --> 00:55:40,671 I need to hear traffic. 895 00:55:47,427 --> 00:55:52,015 JOHNSTONE: They sold Valium over the counter, which was fucking insane 896 00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:54,601 because you'd walk into the store and go, 897 00:55:54,726 --> 00:55:57,729 "I'll have a bottle of shampoo, packet of razorblades, 898 00:55:57,855 --> 00:55:59,857 50 Valium and a Mars bar." 899 00:56:04,236 --> 00:56:08,156 We got on this little plane, propeller plane. 900 00:56:08,282 --> 00:56:11,827 And the pilot's got a joint in his hand. 901 00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:14,788 I'm going, "This doesn't look too safe.” 902 00:56:20,127 --> 00:56:23,297 I've seen bands that came down and... 903 00:56:24,590 --> 00:56:28,719 changed, like, their work pattern. 904 00:56:28,844 --> 00:56:32,681 They say it themselves. "Wow! We did such and such in two days. 905 00:56:32,806 --> 00:56:35,726 It's unbelievable. We've never done that before. That was a six-week job." 906 00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:43,650 HARRIES: The place was like that. It made you intense. 907 00:56:43,775 --> 00:56:47,654 It sort of intensified everything that you were. 908 00:56:47,779 --> 00:56:52,618 But it also got a reputation for a place where you could get things done. 909 00:56:52,743 --> 00:56:56,121 One of the things that happened with a lot a very famous people 910 00:56:56,246 --> 00:56:59,750 was they lost sight of how they became famous. 911 00:56:59,875 --> 00:57:01,793 Coming to an island like this, 912 00:57:01,919 --> 00:57:05,005 you were shoved straight back into each other's faces 913 00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:06,715 and you had to go and make another album. 914 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,926 But at the moment, I want to have a fight. 915 00:57:09,009 --> 00:57:11,261 Much better television than your questions, 916 00:57:11,428 --> 00:57:12,638 - I promise you. - OK. 917 00:57:12,763 --> 00:57:16,892 - Shall we film me whopping Sting? - Yes. That would be great. 918 00:57:16,975 --> 00:57:19,019 SUMMERS: The Police, album one, album two, 919 00:57:19,144 --> 00:57:21,563 it was us against the world. 920 00:57:21,688 --> 00:57:24,775 By the time we got up to Synchronicity , we were world-famous, 921 00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:27,945 everything had changed, and it was, "Why should we be a band anymore?" 922 00:57:28,070 --> 00:57:29,655 (TUNES GUITAR) 923 00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:31,323 Shall we tune the guitar for you, man? 924 00:57:31,490 --> 00:57:33,116 SUMMERS: So when we got back to Montserrat, 925 00:57:33,241 --> 00:57:35,953 we were so isolated from each other, 926 00:57:36,078 --> 00:57:38,872 that it got really difficult to... 927 00:57:38,956 --> 00:57:41,708 you know, imagine being in the studio and making a record. 928 00:57:41,833 --> 00:57:43,168 It was sort of icy. 929 00:57:43,293 --> 00:57:45,462 COPELAND: We went there for the isolation, 930 00:57:45,587 --> 00:57:48,256 but we soon found that without anything else around us, 931 00:57:48,382 --> 00:57:51,009 we had only each other to drive each other bananas. 932 00:57:51,134 --> 00:57:55,138 And we all saw the irony of it, 933 00:57:55,263 --> 00:57:57,683 although we were screaming and shouting at each other, 934 00:57:57,808 --> 00:58:03,146 that here we were in this paradise, which we soon turned into a living hell. 935 00:58:03,271 --> 00:58:04,982 MAN: Yeah! 936 00:58:05,065 --> 00:58:07,275 (GUITAR PLAYING) 937 00:58:09,194 --> 00:58:11,989 SUMMERS: I was the only one, personally, the guitar player 938 00:58:12,114 --> 00:58:14,783 in the studio itself, this recording room. 939 00:58:14,908 --> 00:58:18,787 Then there was the control room, where the Neve desk was. 940 00:58:18,912 --> 00:58:24,001 Sting was in there playing his bass, and Stewart was up in the dining room. 941 00:58:24,084 --> 00:58:26,253 We were playing together, but weren't seeing each other. 942 00:58:26,378 --> 00:58:28,964 We were all completely isolated and playing through headphones, 943 00:58:29,047 --> 00:58:30,173 which was sort of bizarre. 944 00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:32,509 What they all wanted in those days, 945 00:58:32,634 --> 00:58:35,303 this is a different period of recording techniques, 946 00:58:35,429 --> 00:58:37,431 was perfect separation. 947 00:58:37,597 --> 00:58:38,849 And that's what we had, 948 00:58:38,974 --> 00:58:41,977 and that's what we were gonna be as people too, perfect separation. 949 00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:45,022 COPELAND: I did not like recording in the dining room, 950 00:58:45,105 --> 00:58:48,191 because it was lonely and grumpy. 951 00:58:48,316 --> 00:58:52,571 And it wasn't the feeling of what I liked about the band, 952 00:58:52,696 --> 00:58:55,157 which was the interaction. 953 00:58:55,282 --> 00:58:58,326 That's what we did live and what's so exciting. 954 00:58:58,452 --> 00:59:02,330 But it was quite miserable. I couldn't wait to get off that island 955 00:59:02,456 --> 00:59:04,666 and put it behind me, and have it done. 956 00:59:05,417 --> 00:59:09,796 STING: Well, the conflict in the band is kind of storied 957 00:59:09,921 --> 00:59:12,007 and it may well be exaggerated. 958 00:59:12,883 --> 00:59:18,013 But for me, it was a function of the creative process. 959 00:59:18,096 --> 00:59:22,434 You have three alpha males trying to forge something 960 00:59:22,601 --> 00:59:25,270 that points in one direction and not three. 961 00:59:26,813 --> 00:59:29,232 We weren't physically aggressive with each other, 962 00:59:29,357 --> 00:59:31,193 but it got pretty heated in there 963 00:59:31,318 --> 00:59:36,114 but really because we cared passionately about what each of us were doing. 964 00:59:36,907 --> 00:59:41,286 And, um... But it was not easy. 965 00:59:41,411 --> 00:59:45,123 It was great to have an environment around us where you could escape to. 966 00:59:45,248 --> 00:59:48,251 I could go walking in the hills. 967 00:59:48,376 --> 00:59:50,754 In fact, I went up to the volcano a couple of times. 968 00:59:50,879 --> 00:59:55,008 You'd come back smelling of sulfur. People would think you'd been to hell. 969 00:59:55,092 --> 00:59:56,426 WOMAN: So, back to the top? 970 00:59:56,593 --> 00:59:58,220 - (MUSIC PLAYING) - (TAPE STOPS) 971 00:59:58,345 --> 01:00:03,350 It's OK. All right, yeah, it sounds OK. It's C, F and A now, yeah. 972 01:00:03,475 --> 01:00:05,227 SUMMERS: We got to a point fairly early on 973 01:00:05,352 --> 01:00:07,187 where we almost couldn't speak to each other. 974 01:00:07,312 --> 01:00:11,399 It was tense, the atmosphere was tense, like we shouldn't be doing this anymore. 975 01:00:11,525 --> 01:00:13,151 We need a producer. 976 01:00:13,276 --> 01:00:16,113 I said, "What about George Martin? He produced the Beatles. Surely?" 977 01:00:16,238 --> 01:00:19,991 And we were up there, so he'll probably take the job. 978 01:00:20,117 --> 01:00:22,994 Sting and Stewart said, "Well, you go and get him then." 979 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,454 So I said, "Right, I will." 980 01:00:24,621 --> 01:00:27,958 We sat down and he said, "Would you like a cup of tea?" 981 01:00:28,083 --> 01:00:30,335 I said I'd have a cup of tea. So we're having a cup of tea. 982 01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:32,796 I start to tell him about the problems with the band. 983 01:00:32,921 --> 01:00:36,383 And I said, "We'd like you to come over and produce us." 984 01:00:36,508 --> 01:00:38,385 He said, "Um... not sure.” 985 01:00:38,510 --> 01:00:40,762 Maybe he wasn't in the producing mood at that point. 986 01:00:40,887 --> 01:00:43,765 He said, "I think you can sort it out. You're grown-ups. 987 01:00:43,890 --> 01:00:47,185 Come on, I think you can do it. There's a lot at stake here." 988 01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:51,022 So, we had a very nice time having tea and chatting. 989 01:00:51,148 --> 01:00:54,317 I walked all the way back across the valley in the beating heat, 990 01:00:54,442 --> 01:00:57,028 and we were all incredibly polite to one another 991 01:00:57,154 --> 01:00:59,364 and very nice for the rest of the album. 992 01:00:59,489 --> 01:01:00,532 That cured it. 993 01:01:00,699 --> 01:01:03,118 (♫ "EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE" BY THE POLICE) 994 01:01:15,422 --> 01:01:18,049 4 Every breath you take 995 01:01:19,176 --> 01:01:21,845 4 Every move you make 996 01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:25,098 ♪ Every bond you break 997 01:01:25,182 --> 01:01:27,142 4 Every step you take 998 01:01:27,225 --> 01:01:29,102 ♫ I'll be watching you... 999 01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:31,354 COPELAND: Every Breath You Take was very different 1000 01:01:31,479 --> 01:01:33,190 from most of our other recordings, 1001 01:01:33,273 --> 01:01:35,734 because it was pieced together bit by bit. 1002 01:01:35,859 --> 01:01:40,488 It was another song that we knew was a huge hit. 1003 01:01:40,614 --> 01:01:46,077 Do not mess with it, do not get in the way of a big hit. 1004 01:01:46,203 --> 01:01:51,208 So every element was recorded completely separately. 1005 01:01:51,291 --> 01:01:54,127 And the result is actually kinda cool. 1006 01:01:54,211 --> 01:01:57,964 It's very composed, all the parts are very composed. 1007 01:01:58,381 --> 01:02:02,928 And at the same time, emotionally very powerful. 1008 01:02:03,053 --> 01:02:07,098 ♪ Since you've gone I've been lost without a trace 1009 01:02:07,224 --> 01:02:11,228 ♪ I dream at night I can only see your face 1010 01:02:11,353 --> 01:02:15,398 ♪ I look around but it's you I can't replace 1011 01:02:15,523 --> 01:02:19,527 ♫ I feel so cold and I long for your embrace 1012 01:02:19,653 --> 01:02:27,661 ♪ I keep cryin', "Baby, baby, please” 1013 01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:36,336 You know, maybe the best music comes out of this sort of tension. 1014 01:02:36,461 --> 01:02:37,545 I've always believed that. 1015 01:02:37,671 --> 01:02:42,217 I think that The Police had three distinct personalities 1016 01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:45,762 which were not the ideal bedmates, because we weren't mellow guys. 1017 01:02:45,887 --> 01:02:51,685 But I think that firecracker complex is what sort of fuels the music. 1018 01:02:51,851 --> 01:02:55,063 In hindsight, it was worth it, and we could all see... 1019 01:02:55,188 --> 01:03:00,110 When we had calmed down, left the island and we went back to the real world, 1020 01:03:00,235 --> 01:03:01,569 all those battles that we'd fought 1021 01:03:01,695 --> 01:03:05,156 and arguments about what we were gonna do and how we were gonna do it, 1022 01:03:05,282 --> 01:03:08,326 they were worth it, because it really did light the thing up. 1023 01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:11,955 And we all can say that if I'd had my way every day, 1024 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,582 it wouldn't have been a great album that it was. 1025 01:03:14,708 --> 01:03:17,794 If we had let Sting get away with every commandment, 1026 01:03:17,919 --> 01:03:22,173 and if Andy had put in every guitar solo, uh... 1027 01:03:22,299 --> 01:03:23,967 it wouldn't have been the same thing. 1028 01:03:24,092 --> 01:03:28,972 We kind of needed each other to restrain and incite each other. 1029 01:03:29,097 --> 01:03:30,807 ♫ I'll be watching you 1030 01:03:30,932 --> 01:03:32,976 4 Every move you make 1031 01:03:33,101 --> 01:03:34,811 4 Every vow you break 1032 01:03:34,936 --> 01:03:37,105 ♪ Every smile you fake 1033 01:03:37,230 --> 01:03:39,065 ♫ I'll be watching you 1034 01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:40,942 ♪ Every single day 1035 01:03:41,067 --> 01:03:43,403 ♪ Every word you say... 1036 01:03:43,528 --> 01:03:46,448 STING: Synchronicity was our biggest success. 1037 01:03:46,573 --> 01:03:48,450 It had songs like Every Breath You Take, 1038 01:03:48,575 --> 01:03:52,579 and King of Pain and Wrapped Around Your Finger. 1039 01:03:52,704 --> 01:03:57,834 But I did decide during that recording that I didn't want to do this again. 1040 01:03:57,959 --> 01:04:02,088 That we had achieved everything we set out to do as a band, 1041 01:04:02,213 --> 01:04:06,760 and achieved it tenfold, a hundredfold more than our expectations, 1042 01:04:06,926 --> 01:04:11,264 and so, after that, I figured it would just be diminishing returns. 1043 01:04:11,348 --> 01:04:16,353 So I wanted to use the momentum we'd gained to set out on my own. 1044 01:04:16,436 --> 01:04:21,399 After we finished the Police album, Sting stays there for a bit of a holiday 1045 01:04:21,524 --> 01:04:26,363 and the next band in is Dire Straits, and the rest is history. 1046 01:04:26,905 --> 01:04:33,036 I I want my MTV 1047 01:04:34,704 --> 01:04:36,790 I want my MTV! 1048 01:04:36,956 --> 01:04:42,337 KNOPFLER: I've seen on MTV The Police doing an ad for it. 1049 01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:47,592 And I thought, "If I stick that to Don't Stand So Close to Me, 1050 01:04:48,802 --> 01:04:51,054 those notes, that would fit." 1051 01:04:51,971 --> 01:04:56,476 Anyway, we were recording Money for Nothing , 1052 01:04:56,601 --> 01:04:59,938 and I said to somebody, "I wish Sting was here." 1053 01:05:00,063 --> 01:05:03,108 And somebody said, "Well, he is here, he's on holiday." 1054 01:05:03,233 --> 01:05:05,402 (& "MONEY FOR NOTHING" BY DIRE STRAITS) 1055 01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:16,704 Ow! 1056 01:05:30,343 --> 01:05:31,469 ♫ Listen here, now 1057 01:05:31,594 --> 01:05:33,388 3 That ain't workin' 1058 01:05:33,471 --> 01:05:34,806 4 That's the way you do it 1059 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,767 3 You play the guitar on your MTV... 1060 01:05:38,768 --> 01:05:41,020 Trudie said to me, "That's gonna be such a huge hit." 1061 01:05:41,146 --> 01:05:44,607 I said, "I dunno, it's OK." 1062 01:05:44,732 --> 01:05:48,528 Of course, it was the biggest hit of that year, so I was very... 1063 01:05:48,653 --> 01:05:51,114 very proud to have been on that, but it's purely a function 1064 01:05:51,239 --> 01:05:53,992 of just being in the right place at the right time. 1065 01:05:54,117 --> 01:05:56,035 ♫ We are the sultans 1066 01:05:57,412 --> 01:06:00,623 ♪ Yeah, we are the sultans of swing 1067 01:06:00,748 --> 01:06:02,500 ♪ That's right... 1068 01:06:05,420 --> 01:06:08,506 KNOPFLER: There'd been something going on with the other albums. 1069 01:06:08,631 --> 01:06:13,678 There'd been a sort of a build-up, because we were playing live 1070 01:06:13,803 --> 01:06:17,182 and there was a big demand to see the band live. 1071 01:06:17,307 --> 01:06:21,352 Because the feeling was that not only could we do it all live, 1072 01:06:21,478 --> 01:06:24,355 but it was better than playing the records. 1073 01:06:24,481 --> 01:06:27,275 That was reaching a sort of critical mass. 1074 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,486 (GUITAR SOLO) 1075 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,409 NEIL DORSFMAN: Mark wanted to try something different 1076 01:06:36,493 --> 01:06:38,786 in the approach to recording Brothers in Arms. 1077 01:06:38,912 --> 01:06:42,123 After we did Love Over Gold, we were both displeased 1078 01:06:42,248 --> 01:06:45,293 with how analogue tape would change the sound of our recordings 1079 01:06:45,418 --> 01:06:46,377 while we were doing it. 1080 01:06:46,503 --> 01:06:49,172 Dire Straits' manager was conscious of that 1081 01:06:49,297 --> 01:06:53,009 and encouraged Mark to record the album digitally and mix it digitally. 1082 01:06:53,134 --> 01:06:57,680 So, it was an all-digital recording ultimately winding up on CD. 1083 01:06:57,805 --> 01:07:00,183 And it was one of the first records to be done that way, 1084 01:07:00,308 --> 01:07:04,187 and I think he wanted the time and the peace and quiet of Montserrat 1085 01:07:04,312 --> 01:07:05,647 to do it there. 1086 01:07:05,772 --> 01:07:07,732 () "SO FAR AWAY" BY DIRE STRAITS) 1087 01:07:23,915 --> 01:07:27,919 KNOPFLER: If you come into a studio from Oxford Circus, 1088 01:07:28,086 --> 01:07:29,671 you'll be slightly hyper. 1089 01:07:29,796 --> 01:07:32,215 You've come out of the Tube, or wherever you've come from, 1090 01:07:32,340 --> 01:07:35,969 and you're in a different mental place. 1091 01:07:36,135 --> 01:07:40,765 When you come from the track up to the studio in Montserrat, 1092 01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:42,642 you go in the kitchen, you see George 1093 01:07:42,767 --> 01:07:44,852 and you get a cup of coffee and you're wandering around. 1094 01:07:44,978 --> 01:07:48,064 And it's just more of a home studio vibe. 1095 01:07:48,189 --> 01:07:52,235 But there's no getting away from the fact that that kind of life, 1096 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,281 a rum-punch evening and a later start kind of a thing, 1097 01:07:56,406 --> 01:08:01,160 it will start to worm its way into your work methods. 1098 01:08:01,286 --> 01:08:03,746 GUY FLETCHER: It would be a lie to say we came away from there 1099 01:08:03,871 --> 01:08:07,584 without being touched deeply by the place. 1100 01:08:07,709 --> 01:08:11,629 The sound of the island does come across on the record. 1101 01:08:12,672 --> 01:08:15,550 3 You're so far away from me 1102 01:08:17,010 --> 01:08:20,096 3 You're so far, I just can't see 1103 01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:23,641 3 You're so far away from me 1104 01:08:25,310 --> 01:08:28,688 3 You're so far away from me 1105 01:08:28,813 --> 01:08:31,316 DORSFMAN: I mean, it was almost too chill in a way. 1106 01:08:31,441 --> 01:08:35,737 I remember, we were doing some track a couple of weeks into the record, 1107 01:08:35,862 --> 01:08:39,282 and I was looking out and everybody was in a towel 1108 01:08:39,407 --> 01:08:42,619 with sun cream on the nose, sunglasses. 1109 01:08:42,702 --> 01:08:45,455 They were playing, like, 40 beats per minute. 1110 01:08:45,580 --> 01:08:49,208 I was like, "We're making a record here! What is this?" 1111 01:08:49,334 --> 01:08:51,377 It was too mellow. 1112 01:08:51,502 --> 01:08:55,590 At any time in the studio, it's very easy to lose perspective, 1113 01:08:55,673 --> 01:08:58,676 especially when you're locked up and it becomes your whole world. 1114 01:08:58,801 --> 01:09:01,137 In fact, George Martin, down in Montserrat said to me, 1115 01:09:01,262 --> 01:09:04,932 "You know, Neil, a producer can either drive the bus 1116 01:09:05,058 --> 01:09:09,896 or he can sit next to the driver with the roadmap, you know?" 1117 01:09:10,021 --> 01:09:14,692 And it was up to me to sort of keep that energy higher, 1118 01:09:14,817 --> 01:09:16,694 because the record, I think, was suffering. 1119 01:09:16,819 --> 01:09:20,782 KNOPFLER: Neil would be one of the most important people in my history. 1120 01:09:20,907 --> 01:09:24,911 You know, it's due to him that we got back on track. 1121 01:09:25,036 --> 01:09:29,207 We were there a long time before trying to get it going, but... 1122 01:09:29,999 --> 01:09:35,380 Once we hit a groove we recorded the album very quickly, really fast. 1123 01:09:35,505 --> 01:09:39,342 All the Brothers in Arms album was done in a few days. 1124 01:09:39,467 --> 01:09:41,469 () "WALK OF LIFE" BY DIRE STRAITS) 1125 01:09:51,312 --> 01:09:55,066 FLETCHER: In a lot of our spare time, we used to go down to the beach, 1126 01:09:55,233 --> 01:09:57,819 and we soon noticed there were a couple of windsurf boards, 1127 01:09:57,944 --> 01:10:00,738 and that Danny was offering to teach windsurfing. 1128 01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:04,367 I becomes friends with the Dire Straits band. 1129 01:10:05,118 --> 01:10:07,829 That's after I had taught Alan Clark and Guy Fletcher to windsurf. 1130 01:10:07,954 --> 01:10:12,083 So one day after I and Alan Clark went windsurfing and come out, Alan said, 1131 01:10:12,250 --> 01:10:14,585 "I'm taking you up to the AIR Studios for lunch." 1132 01:10:14,711 --> 01:10:17,213 I said, "OK," and I went up 1133 01:10:17,338 --> 01:10:20,800 and they're there, and they're mixing the music they did. 1134 01:10:21,718 --> 01:10:25,430 I started dancing to the music, and then he said to me, 1135 01:10:26,681 --> 01:10:30,643 "You know I wrote a song on you dancing?" I said, 1136 01:10:30,727 --> 01:10:36,899 "Mark, that's going to be a damn big recording hit for you. 1137 01:10:37,024 --> 01:10:38,860 I'm predicting to you, 1138 01:10:38,985 --> 01:10:42,822 that is going to be your biggest album that you ever make." 1139 01:10:42,947 --> 01:10:45,783 Now, it's one of the biggest album in the world. 1140 01:10:45,908 --> 01:10:47,744 Everybody loves the song Walk of Life. 1141 01:10:48,453 --> 01:10:50,288 4 He do the song about the sweelt-lovin' woman 1142 01:10:50,413 --> 01:10:52,373 ♪ He do the song about the knife 1143 01:10:53,583 --> 01:10:55,293 ♫ He do the walk 1144 01:10:55,418 --> 01:10:57,378 3 Do the walk of life 1145 01:10:57,879 --> 01:10:59,756 I Yeah, he do the walk of life... 1146 01:10:59,881 --> 01:11:02,550 DORSFMAN: Brothers in Arms was one of the first all-digital recordings, 1147 01:11:02,675 --> 01:11:07,472 and that in tandem with MTV blowing up at the same time, 1148 01:11:07,597 --> 01:11:09,390 I think that's a huge reason 1149 01:11:09,515 --> 01:11:11,934 why everything changed for the band at that point. 1150 01:11:12,059 --> 01:11:14,103 OK, best British LP. 1151 01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:16,189 Brothers in Arms, Dire Straits. 1152 01:11:16,355 --> 01:11:17,815 (CHEERING) 1153 01:11:19,859 --> 01:11:22,820 KNOPFLER: I didn't have a clue about how successful the album was. 1154 01:11:22,945 --> 01:11:26,073 I don't think we did. Never thought about it. 1155 01:11:26,199 --> 01:11:31,579 When Philips invented the CD and then brought it out, 1156 01:11:31,704 --> 01:11:34,832 that just coincided with the release of Brothers. 1157 01:11:34,957 --> 01:11:39,962 So they took that and used it as, "This is what CD sounds like." 1158 01:11:40,087 --> 01:11:43,508 And then, they used all their sales outlets to play the record. 1159 01:11:43,633 --> 01:11:48,429 So that was an additional thing that just happened by a fluke, really. 1160 01:11:48,554 --> 01:11:51,390 DORSFMAN: In the '80s, somebody smart figured out 1161 01:11:51,516 --> 01:11:54,060 that you can make a boatload of money in the record business. 1162 01:11:54,185 --> 01:11:56,771 And with the cheapness of CDs, 1163 01:11:56,854 --> 01:12:02,610 to make a CD, to fully manufacture, everything was less than a dollar. 1164 01:12:02,735 --> 01:12:05,404 So, there was a calculation there, 1165 01:12:05,530 --> 01:12:09,700 and like everything in the modern world, it quickly became monetized. 1166 01:12:10,117 --> 01:12:15,039 MAN: There was a lot of excitement associated with the coming of the CD. 1167 01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:16,833 The consumer loved it. 1168 01:12:16,958 --> 01:12:20,753 As a result, the record industry exploded at that point. 1169 01:12:20,837 --> 01:12:23,381 (I "BUSTIN' AT THE SEAMS" BY ROBIN LOXLEY AND WOLFGANG BLACK) 1170 01:12:29,095 --> 01:12:31,180 GLOVER: It was a real shot in the arm, coming to Montserrat. 1171 01:12:31,347 --> 01:12:34,350 It was a real special event for us. 1172 01:12:34,475 --> 01:12:38,938 It still is, it's in our memories, it's still our favorite album. 1173 01:12:48,531 --> 01:12:51,617 ROBINSON: For us, the Rolling Stones coming to the studio was a big thing. 1174 01:12:51,742 --> 01:12:55,955 Because obviously, George is more associated with the Beatles, 1175 01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:00,084 and we'd had Keith Richards in doing the X-Pensive Winos and it was fabulous. 1176 01:13:00,209 --> 01:13:03,462 OLIVER: I was talking to Keith Richards before, 1177 01:13:03,588 --> 01:13:05,673 when he came to do his solo. 1178 01:13:05,798 --> 01:13:07,675 He did a solo record. 1179 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,885 I was talking to him 1180 01:13:09,010 --> 01:13:12,847 and I told him, "The Rolling Stones is one of my favorite bands."” 1181 01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:15,683 I asked him if they were coming back together. 1182 01:13:15,808 --> 01:13:20,396 And he said to me, "I am the only man who could put the band back together, 1183 01:13:20,521 --> 01:13:23,190 and I'm going to put it back together and we'll come here and record.” 1184 01:13:23,316 --> 01:13:25,735 - And they did come to Montserrat. - Yeah, man. 1185 01:13:25,860 --> 01:13:29,405 Keith has always insisted that Mick is the lead singer, 1186 01:13:29,530 --> 01:13:32,491 as he is in the Rolling Stones, and he shouldn't do anything else. 1187 01:13:32,617 --> 01:13:33,993 They just weren't getting on. 1188 01:13:34,118 --> 01:13:35,620 (CHEERING) 1189 01:13:35,745 --> 01:13:37,830 REPORTER: We might as well start by posing the question 1190 01:13:37,914 --> 01:13:39,916 of whether the release of a Mick Jagger solo album 1191 01:13:40,041 --> 01:13:41,751 means the end of the Rolling Stones? 1192 01:13:41,876 --> 01:13:47,506 I'd done stuff with other people and the odd thing here and there. 1193 01:13:47,632 --> 01:13:51,177 I'd obviously played with other bands and jammed around, 1194 01:13:51,302 --> 01:13:53,220 but I thought it was a good moment 1195 01:13:53,346 --> 01:13:56,098 to break the pattern of just doing a Stones album 1196 01:13:56,223 --> 01:14:00,311 and just do something of my own for a change and step out a bit. 1197 01:14:00,478 --> 01:14:04,982 If Mick's albums had have been blockbusters, so to speak, 1198 01:14:05,107 --> 01:14:07,735 whatever that means, uh... 1199 01:14:09,487 --> 01:14:13,658 it would be very unlikely that I would be leaving tomorrow, 1200 01:14:13,783 --> 01:14:16,035 to start making a new Stones album. 1201 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,829 (♫ "BLINDED BY THE SUN" BY NICK NOLAN) 1202 01:14:23,793 --> 01:14:25,044 KIMSEY: Going down to Montserrat, 1203 01:14:25,169 --> 01:14:27,171 I was quite fearful of going down with the Stones, 1204 01:14:27,296 --> 01:14:32,218 because working on four or five albums with them previously, 1205 01:14:32,343 --> 01:14:35,846 I knew that they were very much city bound. 1206 01:14:35,972 --> 01:14:37,974 (STEEL DRUM MUSIC) 1207 01:14:40,351 --> 01:14:45,815 I think they were quite amazed how normal everybody was, really. 1208 01:14:45,940 --> 01:14:49,610 It's like when a band like the Stones suddenly appears on the island, 1209 01:14:49,735 --> 01:14:55,366 the expectation can be something so big, it can freak you out. 1210 01:14:55,908 --> 01:14:59,537 MORGAN: Keith Richards, all the guys, 1211 01:14:59,662 --> 01:15:04,667 they drink a lot, they smoke a lot, they eat a lot. 1212 01:15:04,792 --> 01:15:08,004 As I say, they were a whole set of good guys. 1213 01:15:08,087 --> 01:15:10,506 (DRUM ROLL) 1214 01:15:10,631 --> 01:15:12,717 (LAUGHTER) 1215 01:15:12,842 --> 01:15:14,093 (GUITAR PLAYING) 1216 01:15:14,218 --> 01:15:17,179 Don't go mad on the drums though, OK? 1217 01:15:17,304 --> 01:15:19,515 KIMSEY: Looking at the body language 1218 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,351 between, especially Mick and Keith in Montserrat, 1219 01:15:22,518 --> 01:15:24,353 it was very different to what I'd seen, 1220 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:29,900 and this was one of the most friendly and warming atmospheres 1221 01:15:30,026 --> 01:15:31,694 I've seen between Mick and Keith. 1222 01:15:36,198 --> 01:15:38,284 3 Our heartbeats 1223 01:15:39,660 --> 01:15:42,288 RICHARDS: We both agreed the best thing for the both of us 1224 01:15:42,413 --> 01:15:43,998 is to get together. Like, nobody else. 1225 01:15:44,081 --> 01:15:47,460 And it's very strange that it's easy between the two of us. 1226 01:15:47,626 --> 01:15:50,755 It's when other people are around that it can be a problem. 1227 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,632 I think after the second day, we had three or four songs already. 1228 01:15:53,758 --> 01:15:56,635 When you start off on a roll like that, it helps, you know? 1229 01:15:57,595 --> 01:16:01,682 KIMSEY: Peter Mensch and Cliff Burnstein came down, 1230 01:16:01,807 --> 01:16:04,477 and we were listening back to Mixed Emotions. 1231 01:16:04,643 --> 01:16:06,353 Peter Mensch was talking to Keith 1232 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,815 suggesting that an arrangement change should be made. 1233 01:16:09,940 --> 01:16:14,612 At which point, Keith delved into his doctor's bag, 1234 01:16:14,737 --> 01:16:17,948 one of these beautiful old leather doctor's bags, 1235 01:16:18,074 --> 01:16:22,620 and bought out a knife and pinned it between his legs, 1236 01:16:22,745 --> 01:16:25,956 and said to Peter something in the terms of, 1237 01:16:26,082 --> 01:16:30,336 "Listen, sonny, nobody tells the Rolling Stones how to write a song.” 1238 01:16:30,461 --> 01:16:34,673 Which I thought was classic, wonderful. And the arrangement never changed. 1239 01:16:34,799 --> 01:16:37,968 If I get up there, we need another chord in there. 1240 01:16:38,094 --> 01:16:42,765 - I think we have to take another minor. - Yeah, one more minor, F, F and G. 1241 01:16:42,890 --> 01:16:46,143 ♫ With mixed emotions 1242 01:16:46,894 --> 01:16:50,815 ♪ And you're not the only one 1243 01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:57,113 I like it. 1244 01:16:57,238 --> 01:17:03,369 KIMSEY: Montserrat was a huge part of rebooting the Stones, 1245 01:17:03,494 --> 01:17:07,039 helping them get back together, particularly Mick and Keith. 1246 01:17:07,123 --> 01:17:09,667 It was pretty sad when we all left 1247 01:17:09,792 --> 01:17:13,879 because they hadn't been that close for such a long time. 1248 01:17:14,004 --> 01:17:16,465 There was a sense of, um, you know, 1249 01:17:16,632 --> 01:17:19,468 when you finish school for the first time and you all break up. 1250 01:17:19,635 --> 01:17:22,138 It was a bit like that, breaking up for the summer holidays. 1251 01:17:22,263 --> 01:17:24,431 They weren't going to see each other for a long time. 1252 01:17:24,557 --> 01:17:26,225 RICHARDS: One, two, three. 1253 01:17:26,350 --> 01:17:29,186 (♫ "MIXED EMOTIONS" BY THE ROLLING STONES) 1254 01:17:32,815 --> 01:17:35,067 ♪ Button your lip, baby 1255 01:17:36,068 --> 01:17:37,736 4 Button your coat 1256 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,782 ♫ Let's go out dancing 1257 01:17:43,075 --> 01:17:44,410 ♫ Let's rock and roll 1258 01:17:46,495 --> 01:17:49,206 ♫ You're not the only one 1259 01:17:49,999 --> 01:17:52,251 & With mixed emotions... 1260 01:17:53,335 --> 01:17:54,587 (CHEERING) 1261 01:17:54,753 --> 01:17:56,172 JAGGER: Good morning, everybody. 1262 01:17:56,297 --> 01:17:59,758 We're very pleased to announce that we are doing a big tour this year. 1263 01:17:59,884 --> 01:18:03,053 And we've got a new album which comes out and that's called Steel Wheels. 1264 01:18:03,179 --> 01:18:05,431 The first single's called Mixed Emotions. 1265 01:18:05,556 --> 01:18:07,183 I know you're dying to ask questions, 1266 01:18:07,308 --> 01:18:09,894 like, "Will this be the last tour you ever do?" 1267 01:18:10,436 --> 01:18:14,190 KIMSEY: Well, the Stones were the last band to record in Montserrat. 1268 01:18:14,273 --> 01:18:18,068 There's been a few studios that they've been the last people to record in, 1269 01:18:18,194 --> 01:18:21,488 but they're not the reason that they've closed down. 1270 01:18:21,614 --> 01:18:24,074 It's always an act of God. 1271 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,203 The thing about the Stones is that they do this thing 1272 01:18:27,328 --> 01:18:29,914 where, in the old days, they used to trash things. 1273 01:18:30,039 --> 01:18:34,960 They said, "This is what we usually do. On the last day, we trash the place." 1274 01:18:35,085 --> 01:18:36,921 In a way, Hurricane Hugo did it for them 1275 01:18:37,046 --> 01:18:40,883 because as soon as they'd gone, the hurricane hit. 1276 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,429 GEORGE MARTIN: Hurricane Hugo wiped us out, it wiped the island out almost. 1277 01:18:46,305 --> 01:18:48,766 There are only 12,000 people living on the island, 1278 01:18:48,891 --> 01:18:52,978 and 11,000 of them lost their homes. It was pretty devastating. 1279 01:18:53,103 --> 01:18:55,022 But they picked themselves up 1280 01:18:55,147 --> 01:18:57,274 and it took a year, or a bit more than a year 1281 01:18:57,399 --> 01:18:59,318 to get back anything like normal. 1282 01:19:02,321 --> 01:19:06,283 I wasn't able to get to Montserrat after the hurricane 1283 01:19:06,408 --> 01:19:08,244 until after about six weeks. 1284 01:19:08,911 --> 01:19:11,455 So I got a flash lamp and I went into the studio 1285 01:19:11,580 --> 01:19:13,791 to see how that had fared. 1286 01:19:13,916 --> 01:19:17,753 Went over to the piano and opened the keyboard, 1287 01:19:17,878 --> 01:19:23,175 and all the ivory keys were covered in green mold. 1288 01:19:23,259 --> 01:19:26,762 And I realized then we were done. 1289 01:19:32,768 --> 01:19:37,356 ATKIN: By the time the hurricane hit, it was becoming a burden to them. 1290 01:19:37,481 --> 01:19:41,235 The kind of budgets that people had were long gone. 1291 01:19:41,318 --> 01:19:45,072 The accountants were really starting to dig into the music business, 1292 01:19:45,197 --> 01:19:49,201 and it wasn't the era that we built it for. 1293 01:19:53,414 --> 01:19:55,874 GILES MARTIN: I think technology changed, things moved to digital. 1294 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,252 And so, just the equipment levels... 1295 01:19:58,335 --> 01:20:00,504 Recording studios started changing a lot. 1296 01:20:00,629 --> 01:20:02,298 They became more accessible, 1297 01:20:02,423 --> 01:20:04,717 album budgets started getting cut. All of these things. 1298 01:20:07,803 --> 01:20:10,431 KNOPFLER: Recording studios, they all have a shelf-life, 1299 01:20:10,556 --> 01:20:17,313 because in the end, they are ruled by forces that are bigger than us. 1300 01:20:17,438 --> 01:20:19,398 BECKLEY: I think the demise of the album 1301 01:20:19,523 --> 01:20:23,193 is directly related to the shift from analog to digital. 1302 01:20:23,319 --> 01:20:27,281 A lot of the restrictions we dealt with in recording analog 1303 01:20:27,364 --> 01:20:32,578 were lovely parameters to keep the reins kinda tight. 1304 01:20:32,703 --> 01:20:35,247 And with digital came unlimited options, 1305 01:20:35,331 --> 01:20:38,751 and I think things took a pretty serious shift at that change. 1306 01:20:40,502 --> 01:20:43,213 ROBINSON: It's as if there is something there 1307 01:20:43,339 --> 01:20:46,216 that drew all that music, drew all that creativity, 1308 01:20:46,342 --> 01:20:48,427 and then it was like, "The power's gone now." 1309 01:20:48,552 --> 01:20:50,471 So, that's finished and move on. 1310 01:20:58,937 --> 01:21:00,939 WILLOCK: We heard that our volcano was dormant, 1311 01:21:01,065 --> 01:21:04,568 but we never understood until our volcano started erupting 1312 01:21:04,693 --> 01:21:07,404 that dormant actually meant potentially active. 1313 01:21:08,405 --> 01:21:10,240 And so, I was in the studio. 1314 01:21:10,366 --> 01:21:15,162 One of the technicians came and said, "Rose, the volcano is erupting.” 1315 01:21:15,287 --> 01:21:17,039 (RUMBLING) 1316 01:21:41,647 --> 01:21:46,527 I sat before the microphone, I said, "Everybody, I know that you are scared. 1317 01:21:46,652 --> 01:21:50,447 If you feel like praying, pray. If you feel like crying, cry. 1318 01:21:50,572 --> 01:21:53,826 But I'll be here, I'll be here with you all the way. 1319 01:21:53,992 --> 01:21:57,746 All the time, I'll be here, just keep listening to the radio station. 1320 01:21:57,913 --> 01:22:01,667 This is Rose. It's gonna be OK. Just stay with me." 1321 01:22:06,296 --> 01:22:08,048 CASSELL: The sky was just, like, frightening. 1322 01:22:08,173 --> 01:22:11,343 Especially, I can remember the first ash plume 1323 01:22:11,427 --> 01:22:13,137 that went up about 60,000 feet. 1324 01:22:13,262 --> 01:22:15,722 The whole island, you have bright sunshine like this, 1325 01:22:15,848 --> 01:22:18,684 and suddenly it's like night, you can't see a thing. 1326 01:22:19,977 --> 01:22:21,437 WOMAN: No one's here. 1327 01:22:21,562 --> 01:22:26,108 RILEY: For me, it was a very, very bad experience, it was very scary. 1328 01:22:26,233 --> 01:22:29,027 Because one night, they tell you to go back home. 1329 01:22:29,153 --> 01:22:31,738 Before the night is out, you gotta move in the middle of the night again, 1330 01:22:31,864 --> 01:22:36,285 and the next day you don't know what to do, where you're gonna sleep. 1331 01:22:36,410 --> 01:22:40,038 Because all your mind, "Should I go home? 1332 01:22:40,164 --> 01:22:41,457 Should I stay in the shelter?" 1333 01:22:41,582 --> 01:22:43,333 You don't know what to do. You're confused. 1334 01:22:43,459 --> 01:22:45,294 (EXPLOSION) 1335 01:23:04,021 --> 01:23:07,774 CASSELL: And you know, we didn't understand the magnitude of an eruption, 1336 01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:09,234 what it can do to an island. 1337 01:23:09,359 --> 01:23:13,655 It entirely changed the entire landscape in Montserrat and the whole country. 1338 01:23:13,780 --> 01:23:16,783 And I was amazed what could happen. 1339 01:23:20,704 --> 01:23:25,083 SILCOTT: Many, almost all Montserratians were displaced. 1340 01:23:25,792 --> 01:23:28,587 Whether they were on that side or this side, 1341 01:23:28,712 --> 01:23:31,256 it was a rough time for everyone here. 1342 01:23:31,381 --> 01:23:34,718 And you just had to go somewhere else and start over. 1343 01:23:35,344 --> 01:23:36,720 I hate the volcano. 1344 01:23:36,845 --> 01:23:40,682 I hated the fact that it did so much to Montserrat. 1345 01:23:48,106 --> 01:23:50,442 STING: I remember sailing past Montserrat 1346 01:23:50,526 --> 01:23:53,487 a few years after the volcano erupted, 1347 01:23:53,570 --> 01:23:56,114 and sailing past Plymouth 1348 01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:00,035 and just seeing what looked like a nuclear winter. 1349 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,287 It was covered in white dust. 1350 01:24:02,412 --> 01:24:07,209 This thriving, bustling Caribbean town was a ghost town. 1351 01:24:07,334 --> 01:24:10,629 And it was frightening and upsetting, 1352 01:24:10,754 --> 01:24:13,257 because I had so many happy memories of that place 1353 01:24:13,382 --> 01:24:16,969 with my bandmates, my children, my family. 1354 01:24:17,135 --> 01:24:23,058 It makes me actually kind of tear up when I think about it because... 1355 01:24:23,934 --> 01:24:28,397 it's a special place that was taken away, 1356 01:24:28,522 --> 01:24:32,359 that will never be the same again. 1357 01:24:32,484 --> 01:24:37,698 You can never go back and get that same energy again. 1358 01:24:37,823 --> 01:24:40,617 And for the people that lived there, 1359 01:24:40,742 --> 01:24:46,248 for them to lose everything in just one fleeting instant, 1360 01:24:46,373 --> 01:24:47,833 it devastates me. 1361 01:25:15,152 --> 01:25:17,738 WILLOCK: Most of us cried, because we lost our town. 1362 01:25:18,864 --> 01:25:22,409 We'd lost that important, integral part of our history. 1363 01:25:23,702 --> 01:25:26,455 And I can close my eyes and I'm still back there. 1364 01:25:32,252 --> 01:25:36,465 But since the volcanic activity, Montserrat has grown in size, 1365 01:25:36,590 --> 01:25:40,927 and for me, I consider it to be a pleasure to be around at this time 1366 01:25:41,053 --> 01:25:43,555 to see my island grow. 1367 01:25:43,639 --> 01:25:47,934 Because look at all the ash and the new fertilizer it has brought. 1368 01:25:48,060 --> 01:25:52,606 And so, I consider the volcano to be a perpetual part of who we are. 1369 01:26:00,656 --> 01:26:03,492 JUDY MARTIN: You can't really walk around the estate now. 1370 01:26:04,701 --> 01:26:08,747 And so, I feel it was of a time. 1371 01:26:09,498 --> 01:26:13,543 And now it should slowly go back to the jungle where it came from. 1372 01:26:19,966 --> 01:26:22,928 DORSFMAN: The '80s are like a hundred years in the rear-view mirror. 1373 01:26:23,053 --> 01:26:28,225 It was a very special time, and quality of studio, and vibe-wise, 1374 01:26:28,350 --> 01:26:32,729 the '80s was like the Renaissance, the golden era of studio recording. 1375 01:26:37,067 --> 01:26:40,696 COPELAND: Those studios are kind of an era that has gone. 1376 01:26:40,779 --> 01:26:44,700 Some types of music are best recorded in a big room, 1377 01:26:44,825 --> 01:26:48,829 but you just get your drums in that big room for a day, 1378 01:26:48,954 --> 01:26:52,749 and then you go back home and fiddle with it on your own gear at home. 1379 01:26:52,874 --> 01:26:55,752 It's just not the way artists make records anymore. 1380 01:26:59,047 --> 01:27:02,300 URE: There's footage of that place, there are photographs of that place, 1381 01:27:02,426 --> 01:27:06,513 there are living memories of that place. That's history. 1382 01:27:06,638 --> 01:27:10,100 Whether it's around today, 1383 01:27:10,267 --> 01:27:13,270 it's something that we still carry with us, 1384 01:27:13,395 --> 01:27:15,814 the ones who were lucky enough to experience it. 1385 01:27:15,939 --> 01:27:19,067 It's still vibrant and alive to us. 1386 01:27:22,404 --> 01:27:24,531 BECKLEY: As technology has evolved to the point 1387 01:27:24,656 --> 01:27:28,535 where, unbelievable, and people make whole albums on their phone. 1388 01:27:28,660 --> 01:27:33,749 But I think the actual ingredients, when you conceive of something, 1389 01:27:33,832 --> 01:27:37,586 head, and your heart, your hands to play an instrument, 1390 01:27:37,711 --> 01:27:40,380 you use some kind of a recording device to put it down, 1391 01:27:40,505 --> 01:27:42,674 those elements haven't changed. 1392 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,062 GEORGE MARTIN: It's like seeing something you've created 1393 01:27:56,188 --> 01:27:58,982 falling into disrepair. 1394 01:27:59,649 --> 01:28:01,818 But it's like everything in life, isn't it? 1395 01:28:01,943 --> 01:28:03,904 Everything has a period. 1396 01:28:04,029 --> 01:28:07,407 You know, you bring something out of nothing, 1397 01:28:07,532 --> 01:28:11,411 and it always goes back to nothing again, whatever. 1398 01:28:12,704 --> 01:28:14,873 GILES MARTIN: My father was a man who got enormous pleasure 1399 01:28:14,998 --> 01:28:18,168 from other people's happiness. He passed away years ago, 1400 01:28:18,335 --> 01:28:21,588 but he passed away as a very content man with what he'd done with his life. 1401 01:28:21,713 --> 01:28:23,965 And Montserrat was a huge part of that life, 1402 01:28:24,090 --> 01:28:27,761 and a huge part of a dream that he fulfilled in doing something amazing. 1403 01:28:28,136 --> 01:28:33,725 I think that it had its natural end, and that it was closure for him. 1404 01:28:34,893 --> 01:28:38,104 (TUNES GUITAR) 1405 01:28:39,564 --> 01:28:41,441 Shall we tune the guitar for you, man? 1406 01:28:41,566 --> 01:28:44,820 COOPER: George knew the space between the notes 1407 01:28:44,903 --> 01:28:48,323 was as exciting as the note you played. 1408 01:28:48,448 --> 01:28:53,578 That rhythm that keeps us alive, the heartbeat, it's in all of us. 1409 01:28:53,703 --> 01:28:55,914 It's the heartbeat you hear in your mother's womb 1410 01:28:56,039 --> 01:28:57,541 that entices you out to dance. 1411 01:28:57,666 --> 01:29:01,336 And we need that. We need to touch base with what we do as human beings. 1412 01:29:01,461 --> 01:29:05,382 And what better an example than making music? 1413 01:29:05,507 --> 01:29:07,133 And it's about collaboration. 1414 01:29:07,259 --> 01:29:12,514 It's about the dream that George had of that wonderful space in Montserrat 1415 01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:15,851 where you had the sun, the sea, nature, 1416 01:29:16,852 --> 01:29:19,396 each other's company and music. 1417 01:29:19,521 --> 01:29:21,523 () "WALK OF LIFE" BY DIRE STRAITS) 1418 01:29:36,705 --> 01:29:37,622 4 Whoo-hoo 1419 01:29:39,291 --> 01:29:40,292 4 Whoo-hoo 1420 01:29:46,590 --> 01:29:49,676 ♪ Here comes Johnny singing oldies, goldies 1421 01:29:49,801 --> 01:29:52,178 ♫ "Be-Bop-A-Lula”, baby, "What'd I Say” 1422 01:29:52,304 --> 01:29:54,890 ♪ Here comes Johnny singing "I Gotta Woman" 1423 01:29:55,015 --> 01:29:57,893 3 Down in the tunnel trying to make it pay 1424 01:29:57,976 --> 01:30:00,812 4 He got the action, he got the motion 1425 01:30:00,896 --> 01:30:03,857 3 Oh, yeah, the boy can play 1426 01:30:03,940 --> 01:30:06,151 3 Dedication, devotion 1427 01:30:06,276 --> 01:30:08,737 ♪ And turning all the night time into the day 1428 01:30:08,862 --> 01:30:11,239 4 He do the song about the sweelt-lovin' woman 1429 01:30:11,406 --> 01:30:13,158 ♪ He do the song about the knife 1430 01:30:14,326 --> 01:30:18,622 3 He do the walk, do the walk of life 1431 01:30:18,747 --> 01:30:20,790 4 Yeah, he do the walk of life 1432 01:30:26,922 --> 01:30:28,214 4 Whoo-hoo 1433 01:30:31,426 --> 01:30:34,095 ♪ Here comes Johnny gonna tell you the story 1434 01:30:34,220 --> 01:30:36,932 ♫ Hand me down my walkin' shoes 1435 01:30:37,015 --> 01:30:39,684 ♪ Here comes Johnny with the power and the glory 1436 01:30:39,809 --> 01:30:42,687 ♫ Backbeat the talkin' blues 1437 01:30:42,812 --> 01:30:45,649 ♪ He got the action, he got the motion 1438 01:30:45,774 --> 01:30:48,109 3 Oh, yeah, the boy can play 1439 01:30:48,234 --> 01:30:50,737 3 Dedication, devotion 1440 01:30:50,862 --> 01:30:53,198 4 Turning all the night time into the day 1441 01:30:53,323 --> 01:30:55,784 ♪ The song about the sweet-lovin' woman 1442 01:30:55,909 --> 01:30:58,453 ♪ He do the song about the knife 1443 01:30:58,578 --> 01:31:02,582 4 And he do the walk, he do the walk of life 1444 01:31:03,291 --> 01:31:05,210 4 Yeah, he do the walk of life 1445 01:31:19,307 --> 01:31:20,558 4 Whoo-hoo-hoo 1446 01:31:26,982 --> 01:31:29,859 ♪ Here comes Johnny singing oldies, goldies 1447 01:31:29,985 --> 01:31:32,404 ♫ "Be-Bop-A-Lula”, baby, "What'd I Say” 1448 01:31:32,570 --> 01:31:35,073 ♪ Here comes Johnny singing "I Gotta Woman" 1449 01:31:35,198 --> 01:31:38,034 ♫ Down in the tunnels trying to make it pay 1450 01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:40,870 4 He got the action, he got the motion 1451 01:31:40,996 --> 01:31:43,665 3 Oh, yeah, the boy can play 1452 01:31:43,790 --> 01:31:46,209 3 Dedication, devotion 1453 01:31:46,334 --> 01:31:48,795 ♪ And turning all the night time into the day 1454 01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,506 4 And after all the violence and double talk 1455 01:31:51,631 --> 01:31:54,092 3 There's just a song in all the trouble and the strife 1456 01:31:54,217 --> 01:31:58,638 ♫ You do the walk, yeah, you do the walk of life 1457 01:31:58,763 --> 01:32:00,724 & Hmm, they do the walk of life 1458 01:32:04,144 --> 01:32:05,186 4 Whoo-hoo 1459 01:32:21,870 --> 01:32:23,038 4 Whoo-hoo-hoo 1460 01:32:33,089 --> 01:32:34,549 4 Whoo-hoo-hoo 1461 01:32:37,677 --> 01:32:38,678 4 Whoo-hoo 1462 01:32:44,267 --> 01:32:46,019 4 Whoo-hoo-hoo 1463 01:35:04,949 --> 01:35:09,120 Subtitles: [YUNO Media Group 121931

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