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How old are you now?
96.
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Yeah, 96.
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{\an8}I'll be 97 next March.
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{\an8}First match I went to
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{\an8}was 1931.
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I was seven.
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So 90 years of following them?
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- Up and down.
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Up and down.
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And a football team
is not just a football team.
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{\an8}It is something
that really brings together
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{\an8}the community in a way
that nothing else does.
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There's a magic about football
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{\an8}that not everyone will get,
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{\an8}but the die-hard Wrexham fans
I know certainly get it.
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{\an8}"Three brothers
who will be going to Wembley
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{\an8}to support Wrexham AFC with
a combined age of 254 years."
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{\an8}That's it.
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{\an8}Had, uh, highs.
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{\an8}I've had very lows.
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It gives people
a real sense of community
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and camaraderie
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and belonging to something
in a way that, without it,
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they just wouldn't have.
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And-and-and how dare somebody
come from outside the area
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and-and try to take that away
from people?
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[singing] Every day,
it's a-getting closer
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Going faster
than a roller coaster
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Love like yours
will surely come my way
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A-hey, a-hey-hey
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{\an8}Every day,
it's a-getting faster
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{\an8}Everyone said,
"Go ahead and ask her"
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Love like yours
will surely come my way
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A-hey, a-hey-hey
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Love like yours
will surely come my way
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Is it teatime for you now?
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Oh-ho-ho-ho.
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Are you hungry?
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Are you ready for your tea?
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Right, buddy,
after we finish this...
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you're not going to be able
to sit and watch telly.
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Mommy and Daddy have got
to watch something
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on the telly.
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And it's about the football.
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Some people are worried
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that Ryan Reynolds
and his friend
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are just doing it
to make money.
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So that's what people
want to know:
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why have they chosen Wrexham?
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Just to make sure
that they're--
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they're doing it for a reason
that's a good reason.
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There were some people
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who bought Wrexham Football
Club who didn't want it.
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They wanted to knock
the football stadium down.
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They wanted to knock?
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So that they could
make money.
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These are turbulent times
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{\an8}for Wrexham Football Club.
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{\an8}Its future is on a knife-edge
amid talks of debts amounting
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{\an8}to millions
and asset stripping.
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Going back to the early 2000s,
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the football club had a number
of challenges.
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It had owners who, eh,
who-who frankly that-that
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their sole reason for ownership
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was not for the betterment
of the football club,
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and the football club
was in danger.
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For the last two years,
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this club has been owned
by one man,
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{\an8}and tonight we unravel
the truth
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{\an8}behind rumors surrounding
Alex Hamilton.
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Alex Hamilton was actually
the-the owner
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of the football club,
but another gentleman, eh,
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was, eh, was-was sort
of fronting the ownership
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for a while,
and-and we didn't know
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Alex Hamilton
was in-in the background.
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Two years ago,
Alex Hamilton
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bought the controlling share
of Wrexham Football Club.
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Keeping his own identity secret,
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he installed a business
associate as chairman.
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Mark Guterman
was a controversial choice
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among fans.
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He'd already taken
local rivals Chester
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into administration
and relegated
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from the football league.
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The club was sold
to those two people,
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and their, uh, idea of what
the value of this football club
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didn't really revolve around it
being a football club.
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A former solicitor
who lives here in Cheshire,
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Alex Hamilton was struck off
by the Law Society
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two years ago for charges
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including allegations
of mortgage fraud.
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He appealed, and most
of the charges against him,
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including the mortgage fraud,
were withdrawn.
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Reinstated last year,
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Hamilton now describes himself
as a property developer.
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This was a time of, you know,
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a lot of redevelopment work
going on around the UK.
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There was a bit more money
flowing around again
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{\an8}in the economy and people were
looking for opportunities.
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{\an8}Small football clubs are
always financially vulnerable,
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{\an8}and this has long been the case
in England and Wales.
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Wrexham were in that position now.
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They were vulnerable,
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and I think these guys
spotted that vulnerability
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and recognized
that in this big stadium site
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that you have here,
which is on the edge of town,
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it's a prime position
potentially for redevelopment.
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The Racecourse
is the premier sports ground
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in North Wales.
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The Ground has a long history,
and fans recently invested
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in its future by buying bricks
in the new stand.
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There's lots of building work
going on here.
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It's a prime site at the main
gateway to the town.
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If it had planning permission,
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the Racecourse could be worth
at least £10 million...
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just the kind of land
a property developer
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might dream of finding.
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Well, the history,
the present,
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and the future
of Wrexham Football Club
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is interwoven
with the Racecourse stadium.
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Without
the Racecourse stadium,
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there is no Wrexham AFC.
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If the stadium goes,
the football team goes.
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So the club doesn't
currently own the Racecourse.
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{\an8}We pay approximately $150,000
a year to lease the stadium.
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{\an8}Moreover, the club is also
on the hook for any updates,
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refurbishments,
enhancements that we wanna do,
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and we've been able
to do a few of those.
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But what we really wanna do
is return the stadium
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to being the crown jewel
of North Wales.
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But sadly, we have an entire
stand called "the Kop"
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that is, for all intents
and purposes, condemned,
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and we can't do anything
with that
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until the club once again
owns the Racecourse...
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which is proving to be...
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difficult?
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{\an8} Hey, Shaun?
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{\an8}Can we get an update on, um,
where we are with the purchase
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{\an8}of the, uh, freehold
for the Racecourse?
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{\an8}Um, it's proving to be, uh,
a challenge.
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{\an8}The-the title deeds are old.
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{\an8}The Land Registry plans
aren't as clear as you'd hope.
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{\an8}Um, we're just reviewing them
all to get them all together,
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{\an8}and we're gonna get there
as quick as we can.
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{\an8}There's nothing
that we can do to--
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{\an8}to maybe to help speed it up
or-or expedite in some way?
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{\an8}Well, some of these laws were
drawn up in the 1400s,
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{\an8}so they-they didn't anticipate
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{\an8}the pace at which people
would want to do things.
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{\an8}It is frustrating,
and it's annoying
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{\an8}and, uh, it's hard to--
it's hard to give you a--
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{\an8}a rationale as to why
it should take this long
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{\an8}other than these things do.
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{\an8}I mean, I-I'm all
for due process,
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{\an8}but we-we made a promise.
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{\an8}It's in our original
mission statement.
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{\an8}The Racecourse needs to be back
in club hands.
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{\an8}Everybody wants it to be back
in club hands.
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{\an8}And yet months and months
and months go by.
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{\an8}And the-I-look, my frustration
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{\an8}is that we can't start
on the development process.
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{\an8}Do we have a rough estimate
as to when we'll have
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{\an8}some kind of answer?
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{\an8}No, other than it can't take
that much longer.
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{\an8}Holy...
- I mean, it's just--
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{\an8}it's Kafkaesque.
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{\an8}Like, we are--
we're-we're trapped.
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{\an8}And what-and what's worse
is we're even on record
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{\an8}since we promised it
that-that we're actually
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{\an8}on with it and we've got
everything in place.
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{\an8}I'm amazed we've not had any--
had any more questions
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{\an8}from the public and the fans
as to why it's taking--
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{\an8}why it's taking
this length of time.
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{\an8}Okay, well, I guess
we'll talk later.
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{\an8}Uh, bye, guys.
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Oh, he's all on his own.
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Can he make it five?
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We are, uh,
one of the oldest clubs
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in the world.
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Uh, and that's quite
impressive in itself.
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No doubt about that
in terms of Wrexham.
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The Racecourse itself
is the oldest existing
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international venue
that still hosts football.
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Better football,
better prospects
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{\an8}to get what we so desire
in Wrexham.
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The name "the Racecourse"
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was 'cause the venue
was a racecourse.
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{\an8}The local authorities
wouldn't allow betting,
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{\an8}and-and so the tenancy
dropped off
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{\an8}and-and the football
took over... kept the name.
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{\an8}
Can he make it five?
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{\an8}And Jones makes it five!
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{\an8}It's just been our
home for all our existence.
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When Alex Hamilton
took over the club,
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the Ground was owned
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by Wolverhampton
& Dudley Brewery.
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They leased it to the club
for £1 a year.
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The club approached the
brewery to buy the freehold.
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And the very same day
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that the brewery sold
the Ground
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to Wrexham Football Club,
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it was immediately transferred
to another company,
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Damens Limited.
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Damens is wholly owned
by Alex Hamilton.
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So the Ground
belonged to one company
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and the club
belonged to another.
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But both were controlled
by Alex Hamilton.
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Their idea
was to separate the club
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from the stadium
and then bulldoze the stadium
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and turn it into, um,
into a profit.
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So they had, um, a plan,
and it was a plan
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to basically kill
the football club, effectively.
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They took all the investment
out over a period
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so it wasn't overt initially.
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But it became apparent
that things weren't--
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bills weren't getting paid effectively.
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{\an8}The Inland Revenue
is currently charging the club
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{\an8}£150 a day in interest
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{\an8}on a debt
of more than £800,000.
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Earlier this year,
things got so bad
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the bailiffs were called in.
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They assessed
the club's assets
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down to the last plastic seat,
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floodlight, and lawn mower.
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If the tax bill
remains unpaid,
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those assets will be seized.
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You know, I couldn't believe
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that they would treat the fans
like that.
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It's a--
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Sorry.
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You know,
'cause we loved it so much
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and they were just destroying
it for money.
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And it was just so frustrating.
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{\an8}Mr. Hamilton refused
our requests for an interview.
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We went to the Racecourse,
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where he was attending
a board meeting.
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Wales' Week In Week Out program.
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{\an8}I wanted to ask you,
are you sure that the transfer
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{\an8}of the Racecourse Ground into
your private campaign is legal?
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{\an8}- We came here...
- Can you answer that question?
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{\an8}We came here to deal with
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{\an8}a son passing away.
- Asset stripping as well.
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{\an8}
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{\an8}Mr. Hamilton,
please answer my questions.
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{\an8}I came here
to deal with one topic,
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{\an8}which is a personal one
of irregular support--
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{\an8}
You've been in a board meeting.
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{\an8}You've been in a board meeting.
Mr. Hamilton,
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{\an8}you are being accused
of asset stripping this club.
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{\an8}What do you have to say
about that?
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{\an8}Gop. Total rubbish.
It's not rubbish.
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{\an8}Why have you transferred
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{\an8}the freehold of this club
into your own--
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{\an8}why have you transferred...
- Excuse me a moment.
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{\an8}The freehold of this club...
Excuse me.
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{\an8}Into your own company?
Why have you done that?
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{\an8}I had to deal with
passing away.
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Please stop and talk
to us, Mr. Hamilton.
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These are really
important issues
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we want to discuss with you.
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Mr. Hamilton
was not at the funeral.
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He was attending a directors'
meeting at the club.
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Fans were getting worried.
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They organized mass opposition
to Alex Hamilton's plans.
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He had dropped a bombshell.
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He said the Racecourse
would have to be sold
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if the club was to survive.
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Last July, he served
a legal notice on the club
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to leave the Racecourse
within a year.
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After 130 years,
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this season could be the last
that Wrexham play there.
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We will not surrender!
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{\an8}
The supporters rallied round
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{\an8}and really fought hard.
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And I was only a kid and we
were walking round the Ground
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with-with banners
and, you know,
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just anything
to save your club.
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There was a lot of--
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you could call it
guerilla warfare really.
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It was a--
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a campaign that was taken
to their front doorsteps.
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{\an8}- The fans got together.
- Mm, yep.
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{\an8}- Yeah.
- And said, "We'll have
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{\an8}to do something drastic."
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Yeah, we did.
Mm.
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And so we did.
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The fans gathered
in the town in Cheshire
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just over the border,
where Alex Hamilton lived,
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and they marched
through the town
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protesting against
his ownership
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of the football club.
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It signaled
a declaration of war
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against the chairman.
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The very same day,
Alex Hamilton responded.
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{\an8}He'd walked up
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{\an8}and started talking
to a few people there.
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{\an8}And this-this was in a week
where he'd described the fans
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{\an8}as lowlife scum, and there
he was in the middle of 'em.
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{\an8}
Fans thought his actions
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{\an8}were an attempt
to incite trouble.
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{\an8} We-we think
he went on there
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{\an8}in the hope
that somebody would hit him,
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{\an8}so that he could, uh,
make a great political capital
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{\an8}out of the fact
that we were football hooligans
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{\an8}and what have you.
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Hamilton has since
been advised by the police
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not to attend home matches
at his own club.
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In a fit of rage,
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he decided
that he was gonna resign.
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And he scrawled it down
on a napkin.
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Basically, I think,
wrote, "I resign"
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and signed it "Alex Hamilton."
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That was him saying,
"I want out,"
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and that was them saying,
"Great. Fine. Off you go."
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{\an8}Hey, hi, hi, hi, hi.
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Have you heard
from Shaun recently
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about the Racecourse purchase?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it is taking
a long, long,
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long, long, long fucking time.
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Um, but I also, you know,
I also recognize
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that this is not
a simple thing.
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I think the thing
that drives me crazy
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is that this is not a process
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that is in place
to protect people.
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In fact, the people
that are getting fucked
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are the people
that are marginalized
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that are the ones
that get fucked over
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always in these kinds of...
Rob tends to be
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a bit of a hothead.
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Rob's like-if you were
in a burning building,
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Rob is-Rob is the first guy
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who's gonna run
into that building
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and-and pull you out.
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I might look
at, like, the version
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where we all get out.
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Like, okay.
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Like...
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That window is molten lava.
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I'm not gonna run through there
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because I won't make it
to the person.
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Like, wait,
let's just take a second
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and think about this.
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So yeah. So what I'm saying is,
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everyone would die
in my version.
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Just Rob would die in his.
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You're so much more patient
than me--you're so patient.
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I'm not so much more patient.
I just drink more.
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Is that what I need to do?
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I should just drink.
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And if you need
any, uh, any gin,
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I-I got a guy.
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Oh, okay. All right.
354
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Well... all right, I guess
we'll just keep waiting.
355
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We'll just keep waiting.
Um, yeah.
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Waiting is, uh,
my favorite color.
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I will, uh, I will talk
to you very, very soon
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and uh, miss ya, love ya.
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Miss you, love you,
miss you, love you, bye.
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He's too nice.
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He's too nice.
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It just-it drives me crazy.
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Not him being nice.
That doesn't drive me crazy.
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It drives me crazy
that we have to...
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just keep waiting.
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We're past the due process
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of-of protecting everybody involved.
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We're-we're, uh,
we're months past that.
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It's-it's literally waiting
for some lawyer
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to call another lawyer
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who's then gotta call
a committee
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and the committee meets
once every three months.
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And if they miss that
because someone's got the flu,
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then it gets kicked
to the bottom of the pile
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and another lawyer
has to call another lawyer,
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and in-and in the interim,
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it's the team and the town
that get fucked over
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because in-under the auspices
of protecting the club,
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it's hurting the club
because we can't do
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any renovation.
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We can't do any real updating
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because everything
has to go through this process.
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And so we have this plan
to-to revitalize
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the-the-the stadium,
and we can't do anything
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until we get this information,
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so needless to say,
I'm a little bit frustrated
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and Ryan is not
because he's drunk or whatever.
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{\an8}
So Wrexham is a small town.
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{\an8}We had the mines starting
to close down.
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{\an8}We had the Steelworks, and
that was closing down as well.
391
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{\an8}And that has an effect
with the football club.
392
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{\an8}The rent became too much.
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{\an8}So in 2014, the supporters got
together and saved the club.
394
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{\an8}We had to raise £100,000.
It was just amazing.
395
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{\an8}Kids were bringing piggy banks.
396
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{\an8}But we survived.
Yeah.
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{\an8}We survived.
We did.
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{\an8}We rose again like a phoenix
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{\an8}of the ashes.
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00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:33,469
{\an8}You know, this is how--
this is how bully
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{\an8}Wrexham fans are.
We come together
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{\an8}and we raised £127,000
in one day to save the club.
403
00:17:39,183 --> 00:17:40,726
{\an8}And Chester didn't
when they were--
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{\an8}when they were going bust.
405
00:17:42,186 --> 00:17:43,812
{\an8}Their fans didn't rally round.
406
00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:45,230
{\an8}They went dead. Boomf.
407
00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:47,357
{\an8}Wrexham fans wouldn't allow
that to happen.
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{\an8}Oh, that's when--
that's when we took over.
409
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{\an8}When we managed to get control
of it,
410
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{\an8}that really was one
of the highlights for me.
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{\an8}Regardless of what we won
with-with trophies and things.
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{\an8}That was marvelous,
but to think
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{\an8}that we could safeguard
the club,
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{\an8}that was just fantastic,
you know?
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{\an8}And-and...
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oh, gosh.
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On one hand, the club
was in safe hands again now,
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but on the other, it's actually
quite an expensive business
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running a football club.
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It's ordinary Joes
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with whatever they can afford.
422
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You know, the minimum
some people are putting in it
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is £12 a year.
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You know,
some people contribute
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a lot more than that.
426
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Some people only put
in the minimum amount
427
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but then do lots
of volunteering
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and-and-and contributing
in other ways.
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{\an8}
Walked up mountains literally.
430
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{\an8}Walked up Snowdon, didn't they?
Yes.
431
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{\an8}To raise money...
Yes.
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{\an8}For the club.
Yeah.
433
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{\an8}And didn't we do a-a collection
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{\an8}for the wages once? BOTH: Yep.
435
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{\an8}- Yes.
- Yep, yep.
436
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{\an8}Yeah, pulled together
to pay wages.
437
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{\an8}
We just passed a hat around.
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{\an8}Kenny Pemberton...
- Yeah, people--
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{\an8}His house.
- Yeah, people put...
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{\an8}Gosh.
Put money in and--
441
00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:04,518
{\an8}well, we all did, didn't we?
- Mm.
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{\an8}And we've got a lot
to be grateful
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{\an8}to the-to the Trust for.
444
00:19:08,272 --> 00:19:10,149
{\an8}And all those people
who worked so hard.
445
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{\an8}Yeah, yeah.
- I mean, we're members,
446
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,319
{\an8}but there's people
that worked harder than us.
447
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{\an8}Gosh, yeah.
- Gosh.
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Frankly, the club
has been struggling
449
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from that point onwards
to this very day.
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If the club doesn't do so well
451
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{\an8}and the attendance goes down,
452
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{\an8}then the manager doesn't get
as much money
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{\an8}as he was expecting to get
to invest in his football side,
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and so the football team
isn't quite as good again.
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So it's been an issue
that's followed the club
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through all the years
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that the fans have been
in control.
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{\an8}
It's an outdoor setting,
459
00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:47,686
{\an8}so it does wear and tear, weathers.
460
00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:49,938
{\an8}It needs work all the time.
461
00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:52,566
{\an8}Obviously, behind the goal,
we've seen "the Kop,"
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{\an8}uh, was closed 'cause we just
didn't have the money
463
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{\an8}to-to keep it open.
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{\an8}Oh, God.
It's all leaking, isn't it?
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{\an8}Uh, we used to get, uh, people
complaining that the r--
466
00:20:00,908 --> 00:20:02,492
{\an8}when on a rainy day,
the rain was coming through
467
00:20:02,576 --> 00:20:04,620
{\an8}and dripping on them.
468
00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:07,164
{\an8}They just drain money,
don't they, football grounds?
469
00:20:07,164 --> 00:20:08,999
The club lost control
of the stadium
470
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and the club began
this inexorable slide down
471
00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:13,754
through the tiers
into this position
472
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that it now finds itself in,
in this fifth tier.
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00:20:16,882 --> 00:20:20,344
So it had a-it had
a seismic impact on the club.
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I didn't see a lot of hope
under the Trust ownership
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00:20:22,596 --> 00:20:24,431
and that's not a dig
at them because, you know,
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they've put their time in
and I respect them for it.
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So it's not a dig at them
in the slightest.
478
00:20:28,727 --> 00:20:30,103
I just didn't see
an out for the club.
479
00:20:30,187 --> 00:20:31,980
I didn't see a--
I didn't see a way forward.
480
00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:35,192
Um, a lot of fans didn't see
a way forward.
481
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You know, those times
were real bad, real low,
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really low because you--you
knew we didn't have the money
483
00:20:40,739 --> 00:20:41,990
to get players.
484
00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:44,326
You knew players
weren't getting paid on time.
485
00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:46,578
So it was just
a knock-on effect
486
00:20:46,662 --> 00:20:49,039
and it was-it was a terrible
time to be a fan.
487
00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:50,666
It's been...
it's been a terrible time
488
00:20:50,666 --> 00:20:52,251
to be a fan for a long time now
489
00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:53,460
to say the truth.
490
00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:55,295
Sam walked in and he said,
"You'll never guess
491
00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:57,339
who's bought
Wrexham Football Club."
492
00:20:57,339 --> 00:20:58,674
And I said, "Who?"
493
00:20:58,674 --> 00:21:00,592
He said, "Ryan Reynolds
and Rob McElhenney."
494
00:21:00,676 --> 00:21:01,927
I said...
495
00:21:01,927 --> 00:21:04,263
"As in Ryan Reynolds
496
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:07,182
as in actor and Rob"--
I said, "I don't know him."
497
00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:09,142
He said, "Oh, yeah,
you wouldn't know him.
498
00:21:09,226 --> 00:21:10,811
Always Sunny in Philadelphia."
I said,
499
00:21:10,811 --> 00:21:12,354
"Oh, yes. Right, okay."
500
00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:13,981
Uh, I said, "You're joking."
501
00:21:13,981 --> 00:21:15,357
"Nope, that's right," he said.
502
00:21:15,357 --> 00:21:16,441
"They've bought it."
I said,
503
00:21:16,525 --> 00:21:18,110
"I can't believe it."
504
00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:22,864
{\an8}Funny though, how, you know,
a little bit of good news...
505
00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:23,949
{\an8}- Rubs off.
- Suddenly boosts
506
00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:25,117
{\an8}everything up.
- Rubs off.
507
00:21:25,117 --> 00:21:27,035
{\an8}- Yeah.
- Yeah, I mean, that's amazing.
508
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,120
{\an8}Isn't it?
- Mm.
509
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,413
What's happening now for me
510
00:21:29,413 --> 00:21:32,416
is reward, um,
511
00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:34,293
for the-the effort
and the sacrifices
512
00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:36,086
that supporters have put into
football club over the years.
513
00:21:36,086 --> 00:21:38,046
{\an8}And when they came
into buy it this time,
514
00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:40,590
{\an8}I was a bit suspicious
and I thought,
515
00:21:40,674 --> 00:21:43,385
{\an8}"You know, are they going
to love the club like we do?
516
00:21:43,385 --> 00:21:47,764
{\an8}"Are they really going
to-to have
517
00:21:47,848 --> 00:21:51,184
{\an8}the-the best interests
of the club at heart?"
518
00:21:51,268 --> 00:21:52,853
{\an8}And I just hope
they don't let us down.
519
00:21:52,853 --> 00:21:55,063
{\an8}You know, it's, um,
you know, we--
520
00:21:55,147 --> 00:21:57,107
{\an8}well, we pray
that they don't let us down.
521
00:21:57,107 --> 00:21:58,525
- They better not.
- Yeah.
522
00:21:58,525 --> 00:22:00,068
You-you wouldn't cross
a Wrexham fan.
523
00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:02,321
Don't, 'cause Wrexham--
Wrexham fans don't forgive...
524
00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:04,156
- They don't forgive easily.
- Very easily.
525
00:22:15,584 --> 00:22:17,085
You have some news
526
00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:18,712
for us?
527
00:22:18,712 --> 00:22:20,714
{\an8}Is it good news?
- Well, it is.
528
00:22:20,714 --> 00:22:23,759
{\an8}After, uh, many months
of trying
529
00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:25,969
{\an8}and, uh, frustration,
530
00:22:26,053 --> 00:22:27,429
{\an8}I would like
to congratulate you.
531
00:22:27,429 --> 00:22:30,015
{\an8}You are now the proud owners
of the Racecourse Ground.
532
00:22:30,015 --> 00:22:32,184
{\an8}- Whoa!
- Yes!
533
00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:34,644
{\an8}Oh, my God! RYAN: Come on!
534
00:22:34,728 --> 00:22:35,896
{\an8}There we go!
535
00:22:35,896 --> 00:22:38,357
{\an8}Wrexham AFC
owns the Racecourse Ground
536
00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:39,941
{\an8}and, uh,
you've made it possible
537
00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:42,694
{\an8}and, you know, and keeping--
and keeping true to your words
538
00:22:42,778 --> 00:22:45,572
{\an8}in the mission statement,
so congratulations.
539
00:22:45,572 --> 00:22:47,282
{\an8}Truly, you have made it
possible--
540
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:51,661
{\an8}you, um, HK and Shaun
and-and-and Ryan.
541
00:22:51,745 --> 00:22:53,955
{\an8}Like, I-I've just--
I-I hadn't--
542
00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:56,249
{\an8}I lost my patience
with it so long ago
543
00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:58,043
{\an8}that I had to check out of it completely
544
00:22:58,043 --> 00:22:59,503
{\an8}and I just appreciate you guys.
545
00:22:59,503 --> 00:23:01,129
{\an8}This is why Shaun wanted
to do it over Zoom
546
00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:03,340
{\an8}is he-he wanted
to see your angry,
547
00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:05,467
{\an8}scrunched-up,
sad little face, Rob,
548
00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:07,636
{\an8}blossom into a smile.
549
00:23:07,636 --> 00:23:09,846
{\an8}Having the oldest international
550
00:23:09,930 --> 00:23:12,682
{\an8}football club on the planet
under our stewardship
551
00:23:12,766 --> 00:23:14,434
{\an8}is, like, both elation
552
00:23:14,518 --> 00:23:17,145
{\an8}and weirdly,
I can feel an ulcer growing
553
00:23:17,229 --> 00:23:18,772
{\an8}as we speak.
554
00:23:18,772 --> 00:23:20,565
{\an8}Oh, have you got the email
I've just sent you?
555
00:23:20,649 --> 00:23:22,526
{\an8}'Cause there is a second bit
of news today.
556
00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:23,902
{\an8}Oh!
If you open--
557
00:23:23,902 --> 00:23:24,986
{\an8}If you-so there you go.
558
00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:26,154
{\an8}So if you want to open it up,
559
00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:29,366
{\an8}they are your first
rendered images
560
00:23:29,366 --> 00:23:31,159
{\an8}of the new stand
561
00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:33,286
{\an8}the AFL architects
have put together for us.
562
00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:34,371
{\an8}- Wow!
- Oh.
563
00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:35,789
{\an8}Wow.
564
00:23:35,789 --> 00:23:39,501
{\an8}That is a big-time football
stadium right there.
565
00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:41,545
{\an8}That is a--
- And that's just one stand.
566
00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:42,879
{\an8}That's just "the Kop" stand.
- Yeah.
567
00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:44,589
{\an8}So-so what would be
the next stand
568
00:23:44,673 --> 00:23:45,799
{\an8}that we would do?
- Ugh, give him an inch,
569
00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:47,050
{\an8}he'll take a mile, Shaun.
570
00:23:47,134 --> 00:23:48,343
{\an8}I'm so sorry about--
571
00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:50,470
{\an8}Wait, when can we--when can we
show this to the public?
572
00:23:50,554 --> 00:23:54,141
{\an8}Uh, I need to go through the
Council with Levelling Up Fund.
573
00:23:54,141 --> 00:23:57,102
{\an8}We probably need
to warn a couple of people
574
00:23:57,102 --> 00:23:59,020
{\an8}at the Council
it's coming out,
575
00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:01,356
{\an8}and then we can arrange
a public launch
576
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,151
{\an8}and I think it'd be really
useful to do that
577
00:24:04,151 --> 00:24:05,402
{\an8}because you have
to have a pre--
578
00:24:05,402 --> 00:24:07,988
{\an8}uh, a pre-application
consultation period--
579
00:24:07,988 --> 00:24:10,949
{\an8}A pre-application
consultation period?
580
00:24:10,949 --> 00:24:12,117
{\an8}
More bureaucracy, I know.
581
00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:14,327
{\an8}But at least--
- It's incredible.
582
00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:15,996
{\an8}Let's just put it out.
Let's just put it out.
583
00:24:15,996 --> 00:24:17,497
{\an8}Let's just put it out.
At least, at least--
584
00:24:17,581 --> 00:24:19,166
{\an8}no, don't just put it out yet.
585
00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:21,501
{\an8}We-I'll-I'll give you the--
I'll give you the nod
586
00:24:21,585 --> 00:24:22,878
{\an8}when you can put it out.
- Incredible.
587
00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:24,337
{\an8}Thank you, Shaun.
Thank you for that great news.
588
00:24:24,421 --> 00:24:25,422
{\an8}Pleasure.
That is so neat.
589
00:24:25,422 --> 00:24:26,882
{\an8}We're putting out the video.
590
00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:28,091
{\an8}We're putting out the video,
we're putting out the video.
591
00:24:28,175 --> 00:24:29,217
{\an8}Bye, love you, love you, bye.
- Oh, boy.
592
00:24:29,301 --> 00:24:30,969
{\an8}- Okay, bye.
- Bye, bye, bye, bye.
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