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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:03,317 --> 00:00:06,067 (dramatic music) 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:17,660 --> 00:00:19,810 - [QAnon] Have you ever wondered why we go to war? 5 00:00:19,810 --> 00:00:22,431 Or why you never seem to be able to get out of debt? 6 00:00:22,730 --> 00:00:25,420 Why there is poverty, division, and crime? 7 00:00:25,420 --> 00:00:28,070 What if I told you there was a reason for it all? 8 00:00:28,070 --> 00:00:31,980 Fellow slaves, it's time to buckle your seat-belt. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,335 - [Louise] The QAnon conspiracy theory 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,640 has taken off around the world. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,800 - [QAnon] And we are all enslaved by a hidden enemy. 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,540 - [Louise] The bizarre ideology 13 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:44,194 has attracted millions of believers worldwide, 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,590 including a large number in Australia, 15 00:00:46,615 --> 00:00:50,015 fueled by the lockdowns during COVID-19. 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,440 - [QAnon] To achieve this victory 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,073 against the greatest force of evil the world has ever known. 18 00:00:56,740 --> 00:00:59,560 - I really look at it as like a force of nature. 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,270 It's like a coronavirus of the mind. 20 00:01:01,270 --> 00:01:02,728 - [Crowd] USA! 21 00:01:02,753 --> 00:01:04,166 USA! 22 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:05,320 - [Louise] In America, 23 00:01:05,330 --> 00:01:07,990 QAnon's dark and divisive politics 24 00:01:07,990 --> 00:01:09,989 have fueled ugly conflict. 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,023 In Australia, it has led to families being split apart. 26 00:01:16,230 --> 00:01:18,860 - We've watched the change over these last years 27 00:01:18,860 --> 00:01:20,720 be quite dramatic. 28 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,295 That's what raises our concern, 29 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:25,507 that we do have family members who are involved. 30 00:01:26,024 --> 00:01:28,820 (solemn music) 31 00:01:28,820 --> 00:01:30,570 - [Louise] The Stewart family in Sydney 32 00:01:30,570 --> 00:01:34,370 are among those deeply concerned over QAnon spread, 33 00:01:34,395 --> 00:01:36,424 as they've watched their son and brother, 34 00:01:36,449 --> 00:01:39,983 Tim Stewart, become immersed in its beliefs. 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,840 - Tim believes that the world 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,580 has really been taken over by satanic paedophiles, 37 00:01:47,580 --> 00:01:49,692 or Luciferian paedophiles, they call them, 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,990 and that is represented by the left, so the radical left. 39 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,870 And if you don't believe in the QAnon perspectives, 40 00:01:57,895 --> 00:01:59,658 then you're a paedophile enabler. 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,175 - [Louise] Tim Stewart has been a close family friend 42 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,563 of Prime Minister Scott Morrison, 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,992 and has reportedly boasted about his access to the PM. 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,450 - I would think that someone 45 00:02:14,450 --> 00:02:16,815 in a position like Prime Minister Morrison 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,640 would want to condemn those views 47 00:02:18,943 --> 00:02:21,135 and indicate strongly to the public 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,120 that they have no bearing on his official actions, 49 00:02:24,140 --> 00:02:26,760 on his responsibilities, nor on his world view. 50 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,225 - I find it deeply offensive 51 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,280 that there would be any suggestion 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,334 that I would have any involvement or support 53 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:37,560 for such a dangerous organization. 54 00:02:37,585 --> 00:02:38,965 I clearly do not. 55 00:02:39,045 --> 00:02:40,445 - Tonight on Four Corners, 56 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:42,990 we hear for the first time from a family 57 00:02:42,990 --> 00:02:45,660 who have watched with alarm as their son 58 00:02:45,660 --> 00:02:49,840 has descended into an extremist political conspiracy, 59 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,070 and they share their concerns about his relationship 60 00:02:53,070 --> 00:02:55,133 with the Prime Minister of Australia. 61 00:02:56,220 --> 00:02:59,220 (inquisitive music) 62 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,360 On Sydney's suburban fringe, 63 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,240 the Stewart clan sits down to dinner. 64 00:03:12,250 --> 00:03:13,805 - First toast of the evening, 65 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:15,729 here's to life's journey, still going on. 66 00:03:15,754 --> 00:03:16,849 - Yes. - Still going on. 67 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,930 - And we're all in it. 68 00:03:17,970 --> 00:03:20,653 - Yeah. - We sure are. 69 00:03:20,653 --> 00:03:22,600 - [Val] It's good to be together. 70 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,100 - [Louise] Over recent years, 71 00:03:24,125 --> 00:03:27,095 the conversation during these family gatherings 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,351 has often been tainted by a dark topic, 73 00:03:30,390 --> 00:03:35,080 the apocalyptic ideology of the far right conspiracy theory, 74 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,510 QAnon, which has split this family. 75 00:03:37,510 --> 00:03:38,990 - Yep, definitely. - Cheers. 76 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,535 - [Val] We have watched the change over these last years 77 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,135 be quite dramatic, and a lot of that was to do with QAnon. 78 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,394 - It's not often that I get home. 79 00:03:47,510 --> 00:03:50,550 - [Louise] You are a mother who still loves her son. 80 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:51,661 - Yes. 81 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,135 - [Louise] And would like to maintain 82 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,240 a relationship with him. 83 00:03:55,250 --> 00:03:58,499 How is it as a mom, watching this? 84 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,040 - It's not pleasant, and you know, 85 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,220 the relationship has become quite strained 86 00:04:05,220 --> 00:04:07,226 over this last year. 87 00:04:07,552 --> 00:04:09,402 - It's like a conversion, 88 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,640 and there is that religious undertone to QAnon. 89 00:04:13,730 --> 00:04:17,650 And so, constantly donning the armour of God 90 00:04:17,690 --> 00:04:20,200 and things like that, because they are out there 91 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,410 having to fight against the Satanists 92 00:04:22,410 --> 00:04:23,730 that have taken over the world. 93 00:04:23,827 --> 00:04:26,018 (solemn music) 94 00:04:26,370 --> 00:04:29,390 - [Louise] Val and Brian Stewart and their daughter, Karen, 95 00:04:29,390 --> 00:04:32,943 have decided to speak out as a warning to others. 96 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:37,090 What has prompted them is witnessing 97 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,393 51-year-old Tim Stewart descend into the world of QAnon. 98 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,790 - Tim believes that the world 99 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,540 has really been taken over by satanic paedophiles, 100 00:04:49,580 --> 00:04:52,060 or Luciferian paedophiles, they call them, 101 00:04:52,060 --> 00:04:55,480 and that that is represented by the left, 102 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,063 so, the radical left. 103 00:04:57,350 --> 00:04:59,748 - [QAnon] Keeping the public informed when the deep state war 104 00:04:59,772 --> 00:05:01,300 breaks out onto the surface. 105 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:03,420 - [Karen] They believe there's a spiritual warfare 106 00:05:03,420 --> 00:05:07,707 being waged and that they have knowledge of this. 107 00:05:07,707 --> 00:05:09,650 And so, that they're on a crusade 108 00:05:09,650 --> 00:05:12,120 to make sure that the Satanists are overthrown 109 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,210 and things like that. 110 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,880 - [QAnon] The world is currently experiencing 111 00:05:15,890 --> 00:05:18,900 a dramatic covert war of biblical proportions, 112 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:21,006 literally the fight for earth, 113 00:05:21,006 --> 00:05:23,215 between the forces of good and evil. 114 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,875 - [Miles] QAnon really came onto the radar screen 115 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,113 in October of 2017 on a website called 4Chan. 116 00:05:33,343 --> 00:05:35,758 - [QAnon] May God bless America. 117 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,001 - Where individuals propagated this conspiracy theory 118 00:05:41,710 --> 00:05:43,832 that the United States government 119 00:05:43,856 --> 00:05:45,895 was secretly being run 120 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,280 by a cabal of Satan-worshiping, 121 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:51,610 cannibalistic child predators 122 00:05:51,610 --> 00:05:54,460 who were running a global sex trafficking ring 123 00:05:54,460 --> 00:05:57,855 and were hell-bent on undermining Donald Trump 124 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,239 while he was in office. 125 00:05:59,270 --> 00:06:03,065 Now, this conspiracy theory was not only untrue, 126 00:06:03,090 --> 00:06:06,403 it was, in my view, indiscriminately crazy. 127 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,187 - [QAnon] That's why we have Q. 128 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,800 - [Louise] The conspiracy theory 129 00:06:09,820 --> 00:06:14,046 was started by an anonymous online figure known as Q, 130 00:06:14,394 --> 00:06:16,116 who has never been identified. 131 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,788 - [QAnon] Came to be called The Great Awakening. 132 00:06:19,090 --> 00:06:22,270 - Someone started posting as a secret insider 133 00:06:22,270 --> 00:06:24,780 in the U.S. government, calling themselves Q 134 00:06:24,780 --> 00:06:27,220 as a reference to the Q-level security clearance, 135 00:06:27,220 --> 00:06:28,550 which doesn't actually exist 136 00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:30,150 outside of the Department of Energy. 137 00:06:30,150 --> 00:06:33,170 And in the initial Q Drop, saying that Hillary Clinton 138 00:06:33,170 --> 00:06:34,840 would be arrested the next day, 139 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:36,330 which obviously did not happen, 140 00:06:36,330 --> 00:06:39,510 but over time, this individual or this group of individuals, 141 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:41,400 and it's still not clear who exactly it was, 142 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,877 continued to post and continued to gather a following. 143 00:06:45,251 --> 00:06:48,750 (ominous music) 144 00:06:48,750 --> 00:06:51,135 - [Louise] Miles Taylor was the chief of staff 145 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,280 at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security 146 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:56,067 in the Trump administration. 147 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,000 - It was clear to me in late 2018 and early 2019 148 00:07:01,010 --> 00:07:04,731 that these conspiracy theory trends like QAnon 149 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,735 were a danger to the country, 150 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,148 and that the vitriolic rhetoric 151 00:07:09,173 --> 00:07:10,733 on some of these message boards 152 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,330 could jump the tracks into violence very, very easily. 153 00:07:14,330 --> 00:07:15,680 We were worried about that, 154 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,030 and it wasn't just a law enforcement concern. 155 00:07:18,030 --> 00:07:21,753 We started to view it as a real national security threat. 156 00:07:24,090 --> 00:07:27,815 - [Louise] In the United States, the FBI has declared QAnon 157 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,674 a potential domestic terrorism threat, 158 00:07:31,290 --> 00:07:33,203 but that hasn't happened in Australia. 159 00:07:34,855 --> 00:07:38,013 According to the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, 160 00:07:38,038 --> 00:07:40,758 Australia is the fourth largest country 161 00:07:40,783 --> 00:07:43,996 for QAnon-related activity online. 162 00:07:46,075 --> 00:07:47,720 - In March 2020, we had, obviously, 163 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,320 the outbreak of COVID-19, 164 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,700 and along with that came a lot of 165 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:52,438 sort of associated mental health pressures. 166 00:07:52,662 --> 00:07:55,062 And we know that belief in conspiracy theories 167 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,180 is quite closely linked to, you know, 168 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,859 various mental health stresses. 169 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,640 And so, we saw an explosion of conspiracy activity 170 00:08:01,670 --> 00:08:03,700 around the world, including in Australia. 171 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:06,450 And as part of that, we did see QAnon 172 00:08:06,450 --> 00:08:08,100 come to Australia in a more significant way 173 00:08:08,100 --> 00:08:09,300 than it had been before. 174 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,710 - I think people forget that coronavirus, initially, 175 00:08:13,735 --> 00:08:14,865 when it first came out, it was 176 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,443 very traumatic for a lot of people. 177 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,960 No one knew where this virus had really come from, right? 178 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,580 There was very little information. 179 00:08:21,580 --> 00:08:24,170 It came on so fast, governments were shutting down, 180 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:26,370 people were scared, it was traumatic, 181 00:08:26,370 --> 00:08:28,044 and they go searching for answers. 182 00:08:28,934 --> 00:08:32,653 - [Louise] Recent university graduate Jitarth Jadeja 183 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:35,020 is a moderator of an online forum 184 00:08:35,050 --> 00:08:37,440 for people who've lost family members 185 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,460 to what they call The Cult. 186 00:08:39,900 --> 00:08:42,380 The QAnon casualties Reddit group 187 00:08:42,380 --> 00:08:47,283 has about 160,000 members, including in Australia. 188 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,580 - The power of QAnon is not even really about the beliefs. 189 00:08:51,580 --> 00:08:54,160 The power is the behavioral change 190 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,380 that it causes in a believer. 191 00:08:56,380 --> 00:08:59,049 It's destructive to the person themselves 192 00:08:59,049 --> 00:09:02,240 and their relationships, their family and friends. 193 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,050 Every day, I see stories of families being ripped apart, 194 00:09:06,050 --> 00:09:07,748 people's children 195 00:09:07,772 --> 00:09:09,743 being kicked out of the house by their parents, 196 00:09:09,743 --> 00:09:12,815 people having to call off marriages after decades, 197 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,735 people's parents, you know, 198 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,906 accusing them of wanting their children to die. 199 00:09:19,430 --> 00:09:22,513 So, it is the saddest place on the internet. 200 00:09:24,347 --> 00:09:26,897 - [Louise] Jitarth was completely engrossed 201 00:09:26,922 --> 00:09:29,995 in the conspiracy theory for a year and a half. 202 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,360 One of his biggest regrets 203 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,710 is that he got one of his relatives involved. 204 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,878 - And we would talk for hours, four or five hours, 205 00:09:37,903 --> 00:09:39,183 just standing in front of the, 206 00:09:39,230 --> 00:09:40,840 standing in the kitchen, just talking. 207 00:09:40,865 --> 00:09:44,695 And the moment I got out, I realised, 208 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:45,920 like, what have I done? 209 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,440 What have I done? 210 00:09:47,450 --> 00:09:49,290 And I tried, I've tried to talk to him. 211 00:09:49,290 --> 00:09:50,381 I've tried to get him out. 212 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,400 It doesn't work. 213 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:54,639 (ominous music) 214 00:09:54,672 --> 00:09:58,342 - [Louise] Tim Stewart, a town planner and former bankrupt, 215 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,453 was an early follower of QAnon in Australia. 216 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,260 Around 2017, he started a blog called Sideways Step, 217 00:10:07,260 --> 00:10:11,363 for expansive thinkers and spiritual explorers. 218 00:10:12,660 --> 00:10:16,760 One of the posts is titled "The Reason for the Treason", 219 00:10:16,785 --> 00:10:20,015 a conversation for The Great Awakening. 220 00:10:20,060 --> 00:10:21,930 - [Tim] The Great Awakening is revealing 221 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:24,240 that dark forces have found their way 222 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,733 into the highest levels of influence. 223 00:10:29,470 --> 00:10:30,830 - So, the idea of The Great Awakening, 224 00:10:30,830 --> 00:10:33,040 and also of The Storm, is sort of linked to the idea 225 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,990 that there will be some sort of cataclysmic awakening 226 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:37,380 of all the people around the world, 227 00:10:37,380 --> 00:10:40,044 as sort of the scales drop from their eyes and they see, 228 00:10:40,044 --> 00:10:43,350 they see this global satanic paedophile cabal 229 00:10:43,350 --> 00:10:44,970 for what they truly are. 230 00:10:44,970 --> 00:10:47,470 And the idea is that that Donald Trump, in some way, 231 00:10:47,470 --> 00:10:49,210 was going to bring on The Storm, 232 00:10:49,210 --> 00:10:51,204 which would lead to The Great Awakening. 233 00:10:51,204 --> 00:10:53,470 (quizzical music) 234 00:10:53,470 --> 00:10:54,690 - [Louise] Tim Stewart's blog 235 00:10:54,690 --> 00:10:57,940 lays out a central belief of QAnon, 236 00:10:57,940 --> 00:11:01,810 that leftist elites are running a paedophile ring 237 00:11:01,810 --> 00:11:04,550 that harvests children's blood. 238 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:06,010 - [Tim] The true nature of these crimes 239 00:11:06,010 --> 00:11:08,850 shows that humans are being treated as a commodity, 240 00:11:08,850 --> 00:11:12,180 and human energy is being harvested without permission. 241 00:11:12,180 --> 00:11:14,760 Furthermore, it is focused on children, 242 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,150 who are more innocent and unaware. 243 00:11:17,150 --> 00:11:19,480 Why do evil people wish to rob a young child 244 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,950 of their virginity? 245 00:11:20,950 --> 00:11:22,760 Why do they drink blood? 246 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,640 Why do they need to sacrifice humans? 247 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,440 - [Louise] In Australia, Tim Stewart rose to prominence 248 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,027 in local QAnon circles when his Twitter account, 249 00:11:32,027 --> 00:11:37,027 @BurnedSpy34, was included in a post by Q, 250 00:11:37,410 --> 00:11:41,383 known as a Q Drop that users have to decode. 251 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,100 - That's how a lot of these QAnon influencers 252 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:48,630 got their start and sort of first came to the attention 253 00:11:48,630 --> 00:11:50,320 of the rest of the QAnon community. 254 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,112 And so, we know from archived versions 255 00:11:53,112 --> 00:11:57,750 of the BurnedSpy Twitter account that in early 2019, 256 00:11:57,750 --> 00:12:00,980 he had sort of around 1700 followers, 257 00:12:00,980 --> 00:12:05,980 and that by late 2019, had, you know, 20,000-odd followers. 258 00:12:06,660 --> 00:12:08,872 - [Louise] The Stewart family watched in alarm 259 00:12:08,872 --> 00:12:12,562 as Tim's beliefs became an obsession. 260 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,280 - It's really outlandish, 261 00:12:14,290 --> 00:12:16,320 and we've heard things, from the queen 262 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,210 being a shape-shifting lizard to all sorts of things, 263 00:12:20,210 --> 00:12:22,950 where a being a might come down and do some training 264 00:12:22,950 --> 00:12:25,700 in astral projection and time traveling 265 00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:27,350 and things like that. 266 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:29,960 - [Louise] Your son that believes that Donald Trump 267 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,441 is saving the world from leftist paedophiles. 268 00:12:33,441 --> 00:12:34,673 - Yes, that is so. 269 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,360 - [Louise] And your son believes and has said to you 270 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,030 that he believes that both Jacinda Ardern, 271 00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:45,010 the New Zealand Prime Minister, 272 00:12:45,010 --> 00:12:49,220 and Michelle Obama, the former First Lady, are actually men. 273 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,960 - Yes, that has been said to me, yes. 274 00:12:51,970 --> 00:12:55,260 - If people wear red shoes, then they're wearing red 275 00:12:55,260 --> 00:12:56,980 so that, when babies are slaughtered 276 00:12:56,980 --> 00:12:59,320 and the blood falls on the ground, 277 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,248 that no one will see the blood spatter. 278 00:13:02,248 --> 00:13:05,710 And there's been tweets from them that say 279 00:13:05,710 --> 00:13:09,040 if you don't believe in the QAnon perspectives, 280 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,042 then you're a paedophile enabler. 281 00:13:11,042 --> 00:13:13,375 (bird caws) 282 00:13:14,212 --> 00:13:16,795 (gentle music) 283 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:28,360 - [Louise] At the same time that Tim Stewart 284 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,170 was descending into QAnon, 285 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:32,730 one of his old friends ascended 286 00:13:32,730 --> 00:13:36,050 to the highest office in the land. 287 00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:40,833 Scott Morrison became Prime Minister in August 2018. 288 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:46,050 Tim Stewart's wife, Lynelle, has been best friends 289 00:13:46,050 --> 00:13:49,073 with Scott Morrison's wife, Jenny, for decades. 290 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,605 The two couples cemented their friendships 291 00:13:53,605 --> 00:13:57,823 at their local Baptist church in the early 1990s. 292 00:14:01,257 --> 00:14:04,340 - It was a close one, there's no doubt about that. 293 00:14:04,340 --> 00:14:07,040 The two girls in particular have known each other 294 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,885 for high school onwards. 295 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,155 And then, the two men who married the two girls 296 00:14:13,180 --> 00:14:15,107 became friends as well along the way. 297 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,927 - [Val] They've had a lifelong friendship together. 298 00:14:18,952 --> 00:14:20,255 - [Louise] Would you say best friends? 299 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,294 - Oh, yes, I would say best friends, yes. 300 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:26,714 - [Val] Jenny was Lynelle's maid of honor, 301 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,406 and Lynelle was Jenny and Scott's bridesmaid. 302 00:14:31,030 --> 00:14:33,613 (solemn music) 303 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,710 - [Louise] Jenny Morrison describes Lynelle Stewart 304 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:42,495 on her Facebook page as her dear old friend. 305 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,937 Lynelle says Jenny is a precious treasure 306 00:14:45,962 --> 00:14:47,375 and a forever friend. 307 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,600 When Mr. Morrison entered parliament, 308 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,323 the Stewarts were delighted. 309 00:14:56,686 --> 00:15:00,326 - Tim was invited to attend Scott's maiden speech. 310 00:15:00,350 --> 00:15:01,690 He was excited. 311 00:15:01,690 --> 00:15:05,800 So was I, when Scott was elected. 312 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,143 - The member for Cook. 313 00:15:08,490 --> 00:15:10,940 - Mr. Speaker, it is with humility. 314 00:15:10,940 --> 00:15:12,340 - I thought it was rather a privilege 315 00:15:12,340 --> 00:15:16,260 that Tim was one of those who received the invitation. 316 00:15:16,260 --> 00:15:19,402 I would imagine that any incumbent, 317 00:15:19,402 --> 00:15:22,940 speaking for the first time would ask people to attend 318 00:15:22,940 --> 00:15:24,983 who were in some way special to him. 319 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:29,540 - [Louise] When Tim and Lynelle Stewart 320 00:15:29,565 --> 00:15:34,601 celebrated their 24th wedding anniversary in August 2017, 321 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,720 then-Treasurer Scott Morrison sent his congratulations 322 00:15:38,740 --> 00:15:41,487 on Lynelle's Facebook page. 323 00:15:41,487 --> 00:15:43,290 "Happy anniversary, guys. 324 00:15:43,290 --> 00:15:45,480 Still remember you telling Jen and I 325 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,310 a very long time ago in our little flat in Bronte 326 00:15:49,310 --> 00:15:51,697 that you had an amazing guy. 327 00:15:51,722 --> 00:15:52,729 You were right." 328 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,200 These photos, which they shared on Facebook, 329 00:15:57,220 --> 00:15:58,850 are from the following year, 330 00:15:58,850 --> 00:16:01,650 when the Morrison family holidayed with the Stewarts 331 00:16:01,650 --> 00:16:03,883 on the New South Wales south coast. 332 00:16:05,220 --> 00:16:06,580 When the Morrisons moved into 333 00:16:06,580 --> 00:16:10,189 the Prime Minister's residence in Sydney, Kirribilli House, 334 00:16:10,393 --> 00:16:14,756 Lynelle Stewart was hired to work as a household attendant. 335 00:16:17,111 --> 00:16:19,901 - Lynelle was looking after the children and the dog, 336 00:16:19,926 --> 00:16:24,461 even before she was employed, so certainly was helping out. 337 00:16:25,010 --> 00:16:27,712 She's technically employed by Prime Minister and cabinet, 338 00:16:27,712 --> 00:16:31,110 and her role has been to assist 339 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:34,193 in looking after the children and things like that. 340 00:16:38,063 --> 00:16:40,953 - [Louise] Lynelle Stewart has frequently posted photographs 341 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,365 from Kirribilli on her social media, 342 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,650 including this one of her and her husband, 343 00:16:46,650 --> 00:16:48,893 Tim Stewart, in 2018. 344 00:16:49,873 --> 00:16:53,153 The families even celebrated New Year's Eve together 345 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,985 at the Prime Minister's residence. 346 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,965 In January 2019, Tim Stewart shared these photos 347 00:16:59,990 --> 00:17:02,993 from Kirribilli, saying he was house sitting. 348 00:17:03,550 --> 00:17:05,593 The little boy is his son. 349 00:17:06,919 --> 00:17:08,329 - I didn't think it was an uncommon thing 350 00:17:08,354 --> 00:17:10,203 for them to be there, not at all. 351 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,540 I can see there's photos from New Year's Eve there 352 00:17:13,540 --> 00:17:14,870 and things like that. 353 00:17:14,870 --> 00:17:16,125 We've seen that, yep. 354 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,440 (ominous music) 355 00:17:18,940 --> 00:17:20,410 - Tim Stewart liked to boast 356 00:17:20,410 --> 00:17:22,743 about his friendship with Scott Morrison. 357 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,720 One associate who says he heard these boasts 358 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,370 was Eliahi Priest, 359 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,459 a self-styled online anti-corruption crusader, 360 00:17:33,484 --> 00:17:36,184 who was questioned by counter-terrorism police 361 00:17:36,209 --> 00:17:38,391 after social media posts where he said 362 00:17:38,416 --> 00:17:41,627 he'd successfully hacked the Prime Minister's office. 363 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:47,090 Priest, who met Tim Stewart once in 2018, 364 00:17:47,090 --> 00:17:51,433 claims Stewart said he could pass information to the PM. 365 00:17:54,050 --> 00:17:57,380 - Tim had said that he could make evidence I had 366 00:17:57,380 --> 00:18:00,050 about government corruption available to the Prime Minister 367 00:18:00,050 --> 00:18:01,830 and have the Prime Minister of Australia 368 00:18:01,830 --> 00:18:03,182 act on that evidence. 369 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:06,970 - [Louise] Priest says Tim Stewart sent him this picture 370 00:18:06,970 --> 00:18:09,383 of Tim and Scott Morrison together. 371 00:18:11,299 --> 00:18:14,355 - I can't emphasise enough how close 372 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,120 Tim said the families were, 373 00:18:16,140 --> 00:18:18,887 which was why he said there was a way, 374 00:18:18,887 --> 00:18:20,950 due to that closeness, 375 00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:23,993 that he could influence the Prime Minister. 376 00:18:26,815 --> 00:18:29,445 - At the time, Scott Morrison was preparing 377 00:18:29,470 --> 00:18:32,617 for one of his first acts as Prime Minister, 378 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,288 a national apology to survivors 379 00:18:35,313 --> 00:18:38,116 of institutional child sexual abuse. 380 00:18:39,505 --> 00:18:41,675 Eliahi Priest set up a meeting 381 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:43,492 with Tim Stewart and others. 382 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,095 The group wanted the phrase ritual sexual abuse 383 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:51,000 included in the national apology. 384 00:18:52,220 --> 00:18:54,120 - So, when the QAnon conspiracy 385 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:55,620 is using the term ritual abuse, 386 00:18:55,620 --> 00:18:59,310 they're using it as synonymous with child torture, 387 00:18:59,310 --> 00:19:02,980 cannibalism, really the most gross 388 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,308 and vivid and graphic allegations 389 00:19:06,332 --> 00:19:09,030 of child abuse that you can imagine. 390 00:19:09,030 --> 00:19:11,470 It has been folded into a set of beliefs 391 00:19:11,470 --> 00:19:13,817 about the United States government 392 00:19:13,817 --> 00:19:18,655 in which there are high-powered, high-profile individuals 393 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,240 who secretly engage in these strange satanic ceremonies. 394 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,800 - [Louise] Eliahi Priest showed Four Corners 395 00:19:25,810 --> 00:19:28,576 messages he says Tim Stewart sent him, 396 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:30,695 referring to his attempts 397 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,760 to get the words ritual abuse into the apology. 398 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,510 - [Tim] I am organizing an intimate strategy for the PM, 399 00:19:38,530 --> 00:19:40,962 RE: the ritual phrase. 400 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,930 Okay, mate, I'm just preparing a message 401 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,673 to Scott now RE: Monday. 402 00:19:45,595 --> 00:19:47,712 Once he's awake, mate, he will kick ass. 403 00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:52,615 - [Louise] Priest says he also received a text message 404 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Tim Stewart said he had sent to his wife, Lynelle. 405 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,480 - [Tim] An army of victims and therapists 406 00:19:58,490 --> 00:20:00,840 would specifically love it if Scott's apology 407 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,292 referenced ritual abuse victims. 408 00:20:03,855 --> 00:20:07,146 This exact wording is a key phrase for victims. 409 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,160 Think of this like a code that sends a direct 410 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,581 and clear message that they have been heard 411 00:20:12,610 --> 00:20:14,003 by Scott, specifically. 412 00:20:17,310 --> 00:20:19,643 (bird caws) 413 00:20:24,201 --> 00:20:27,010 - [Journalist] Hundreds of survivors of child sexual abuse 414 00:20:27,010 --> 00:20:28,700 in the nation's institutions 415 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:31,260 will gather at Parliament House in Canberra this morning 416 00:20:31,260 --> 00:20:33,210 for an apology from the Prime Minister. 417 00:20:34,690 --> 00:20:37,695 - [Louise] On the 22nd of October, 2018, 418 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,699 Parliament House opened its doors to abuse survivors 419 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,511 and their supporters for the apology by Scott Morrison. 420 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,855 - There was a lot of people waiting for a long time 421 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,200 for this apology. 422 00:20:51,890 --> 00:20:54,600 We felt like we were a part of history. 423 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,295 We wanted it to be the moment of change. 424 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,760 We really believed that this was the turning around 425 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:03,280 of the tragedy of sexual assault 426 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,003 against children in the nation. 427 00:21:06,750 --> 00:21:09,320 - [Louise] That morning, Tim Stewart's texts 428 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,322 to Eliahi Priest suggested he was feeling confident. 429 00:21:14,065 --> 00:21:15,173 - [Tim] Good morning, mate. 430 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,226 I think Scott is going to do it. 431 00:21:17,595 --> 00:21:19,396 Pretty sure speech is at 11. 432 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,615 I hope he says it. 433 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,888 Scott is very aware of the enormity of today. 434 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,677 - Government business, notice number one, 435 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,870 motion that relating to the national apology 436 00:21:28,870 --> 00:21:30,840 to victims and survivors 437 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,168 of institutional child sexual abuse. 438 00:21:33,193 --> 00:21:35,563 - [Louise] At 11 a.m., the Prime Minister rose 439 00:21:35,610 --> 00:21:37,670 to deliver the historic speech. 440 00:21:37,670 --> 00:21:40,760 - I move that the house apologise 441 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,895 to the victims and survivors 442 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,085 of institutional child sexual abuse. 443 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,785 It happened anywhere a predator 444 00:21:49,810 --> 00:21:51,895 thought they could get away with it, 445 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,175 and the systems within these organizations 446 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,800 allowed it to happen and turned a blind eye. 447 00:22:01,150 --> 00:22:05,100 It happened day after day, week after week, 448 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:08,383 month after month, decade after decade, 449 00:22:09,305 --> 00:22:10,678 unrelenting torment. 450 00:22:11,810 --> 00:22:14,190 - The speech was received, I think, tremendously well. 451 00:22:14,190 --> 00:22:17,240 It was taken in the spirit that it was offered, 452 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,210 which was, I think a spirit of generosity, 453 00:22:20,210 --> 00:22:23,000 a spirit of repentance and regret. 454 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,250 And that's something that survivors of sexual abuse 455 00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:26,260 don't often get. 456 00:22:26,260 --> 00:22:27,640 They don't often get someone saying 457 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,180 I'm sorry that this has happened to you. 458 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:31,055 I regret that this has happened to you. 459 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:37,699 - The crimes of ritual sexual abuse happened in schools, 460 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,240 churches, youth groups, scout troops, 461 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,089 orphanages, foster homes. 462 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,580 - [Louise] But close observers of the process 463 00:22:47,620 --> 00:22:50,391 were taken aback by the use of the phrase 464 00:22:50,416 --> 00:22:52,763 ritual sexual abuse. 465 00:22:53,156 --> 00:22:54,630 - Ritual child sexual abuse 466 00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:57,200 wasn't a focus of the royal commission. 467 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,575 It wasn't evident in the reports or in the recommendations, 468 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,920 and so, certainly there were questions about 469 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:04,450 where did this phrase come from? 470 00:23:04,450 --> 00:23:05,610 How did it arise? 471 00:23:05,610 --> 00:23:09,100 How did it come to be in the Prime Minister's speech 472 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:10,402 in the manner that it was? 473 00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:12,960 I'm in contact with international networks 474 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,320 of mental health workers, 475 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,780 particularly who treat children and adults 476 00:23:16,780 --> 00:23:18,895 who have been subject to sexual exploitation, 477 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,194 and I was contacted, I was emailed. 478 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,730 People reached out about this phrase. 479 00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:26,080 It is a phase that we're aware of. 480 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,478 It's a very sensitive phrase. 481 00:23:27,910 --> 00:23:29,560 - The use of the phrase ritual sex abuse 482 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,280 would have been taken as validation 483 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,710 of the conspiracy theory by QAnon followers, 484 00:23:33,710 --> 00:23:36,480 because it's a person in authority using this phrase, 485 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,823 which appears to directly reference the conspiracy theory. 486 00:23:41,690 --> 00:23:44,410 - [Louise] Despite being asked repeatedly, 487 00:23:44,410 --> 00:23:48,230 the Prime Minister has not answered Four Corners' questions 488 00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:50,780 on the record about whether Tim Stewart 489 00:23:50,780 --> 00:23:53,015 passed on information to him 490 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,240 about the wording of the apology. 491 00:23:57,637 --> 00:23:59,737 Immediately after the apology, 492 00:23:59,762 --> 00:24:02,902 Tim Stewart began tweeting triumphantly 493 00:24:02,927 --> 00:24:07,259 using his Twitter account @BurnedSpy34. 494 00:24:08,010 --> 00:24:10,890 - [Tim] What a great speech, @ScottMorrisonMP, 495 00:24:10,890 --> 00:24:13,373 acknowledging the victims of ritual abuse. 496 00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:16,829 A new conversation began today in Australia. 497 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,240 It was a stepping stone to be sure, 498 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,237 but we took the step. 499 00:24:21,237 --> 00:24:24,800 @ScottMorrisonMP took control of the narrative powerfully 500 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,273 and commenced phase one of our restoration. 501 00:24:28,290 --> 00:24:30,090 - [Louise] Tim Stewart's son, Jesse, 502 00:24:30,090 --> 00:24:32,455 who is also a QAnon follower, 503 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,319 celebrated on Twitter using QAnon codes and hashtags. 504 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,640 - [Jesse] You know The Great Awakening is in full swing 505 00:24:40,650 --> 00:24:44,110 when the Australian Prime Minister, @ScottMorrisonMP, 506 00:24:44,110 --> 00:24:46,050 mentions ritual abuse. 507 00:24:46,050 --> 00:24:47,513 Scott is a patriot. 508 00:24:50,236 --> 00:24:51,970 - So, within the QAnon community, 509 00:24:51,970 --> 00:24:54,290 when it was first reported BurnedSpy and Scott Morrison 510 00:24:54,290 --> 00:24:55,500 had some kind of relationship 511 00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:57,320 or moved in the same social circles, 512 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,827 that was taken as a tacit approval 513 00:24:59,827 --> 00:25:03,440 or tacit proof of this plan 514 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,170 of the conspiracy of The Great Awakening, 515 00:25:06,170 --> 00:25:08,320 of where the good guys would take over, 516 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,840 that maybe Scott Morrison's on board. 517 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,600 You know, and as much as, 518 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,050 I wish I didn't have to say this, 519 00:25:15,050 --> 00:25:19,020 but it's true that the lack of condemnation 520 00:25:19,020 --> 00:25:21,335 and the lack of response 521 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:26,057 to that relationship by Scott Morrison, 522 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,095 and I don't like saying that, 523 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,135 because I don't- I actually like him, 524 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,400 that was, like, people just thought that it was, 525 00:25:32,410 --> 00:25:34,415 it was low key approval, that's it. 526 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,817 And it boosted the authenticity of the movement. 527 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,200 - [Louise] Eliahi Priest texted Tim Stewart 528 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,190 about other issues he wanted Stewart to raise 529 00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:45,710 with the Prime Minister, 530 00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:47,800 such as his claim that school students 531 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,403 were being taught about homosexual sex. 532 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,726 Tim Stewart replied. 533 00:25:52,966 --> 00:25:54,426 - [Tim] I'm in shock. 534 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,473 This is going straight to Scott. 535 00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:00,790 - [Louise] The Prime Minister did not respond on the record 536 00:26:00,790 --> 00:26:03,560 to Four Corners' questions about why 537 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,473 the words ritual abuse were included in the apology. 538 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,830 A spokesperson for the Prime Minister has previously said. 539 00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:13,480 - [Spokesperson] The term ritual is one 540 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,620 that the Prime Minister heard 541 00:26:14,620 --> 00:26:16,710 directly from the abuse survivors, 542 00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:18,730 and the National Apology to Victims 543 00:26:18,730 --> 00:26:21,500 and Survivors of Child Sexual Abuse Reference Group 544 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,650 he met with in the lead up to the apology, 545 00:26:23,650 --> 00:26:26,410 and refers not just to the ritualized way 546 00:26:26,410 --> 00:26:28,840 or patterns in which so many crimes were committed, 547 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,753 but also to the frequency and repetition of them. 548 00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:36,160 - [Louise] Four Corners has spoken to most of the members 549 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,723 of the reference group and seen their formal written advice. 550 00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:44,833 The phrase ritual abuse is not mentioned. 551 00:26:46,090 --> 00:26:48,698 - We honor every survivor in this country. 552 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,120 We love you, we hear you, and we honor you. 553 00:26:53,130 --> 00:26:56,320 - [Louise] Watching Scott Morrison's apology at home 554 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,440 was Tim Stewart's sister, Karen, 555 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,193 who had their parents, Val and Brian by her side. 556 00:27:03,070 --> 00:27:07,430 - When I heard the word ritual in that speech, 557 00:27:07,455 --> 00:27:09,455 my phone next to me buzzed, 558 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,609 and it was a family member saying, did you hear that? 559 00:27:12,634 --> 00:27:15,950 Did you hear that? That's the first time that's ever been said 560 00:27:15,950 --> 00:27:17,573 in the Australian parliament. 561 00:27:24,430 --> 00:27:26,430 - [Louise] The apology had particular significance 562 00:27:26,430 --> 00:27:30,215 for Karen Stewart, who says she was sexually assaulted 563 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,541 when she was a child. 564 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,335 - A speech that was to empower us, 565 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,515 to make us feel like we'd been heard, 566 00:27:37,540 --> 00:27:39,967 to take us seriously, we achieved all that. 567 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,375 So, in the one speech, I received that, 568 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,840 and then the word ritual pops in there, 569 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,700 and I felt that that snatched it away, 570 00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:51,770 because it was a signal to another group of people 571 00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:53,883 that are not there for my healing. 572 00:27:56,550 --> 00:27:59,110 - [Louise] Karen Stewart's experience echoes that 573 00:27:59,110 --> 00:28:02,935 of so many survivors, in both the abuse 574 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,400 and how the institution responded. 575 00:28:06,717 --> 00:28:08,990 Karen was 14 when she says 576 00:28:08,990 --> 00:28:11,678 she was repeatedly sexually assaulted 577 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,880 by two young men from her church community. 578 00:28:16,757 --> 00:28:19,487 She told her parents and her brother, Tim, 579 00:28:19,512 --> 00:28:21,665 who supported her through the aftermath. 580 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,220 - Even though we didn't know the details, 581 00:28:26,220 --> 00:28:29,020 the details, at the time, didn't matter to us. 582 00:28:29,020 --> 00:28:32,095 What mattered was something horrible had happened 583 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:35,090 that was emotionally destroying. 584 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,960 - I noticed a girl who had lost a softness of character 585 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,880 that had previously been there, 586 00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:45,592 somebody who became hard, somebody who sought values 587 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,116 that were not those that we'd instilled within her. 588 00:28:48,150 --> 00:28:51,330 There was a change that took place. 589 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,690 - [Louise] And looking back on it now, 590 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,330 like, as an adult who sort of knows 591 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,090 a lot more about the world, 592 00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:59,330 what do you think that young girl was going through? 593 00:28:59,615 --> 00:29:00,763 - Trauma. 594 00:29:02,930 --> 00:29:04,963 Trauma that I didn't understand. 595 00:29:06,430 --> 00:29:07,460 Sorry, 596 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,914 I'm doing what I don't want to do, 597 00:29:09,941 --> 00:29:11,523 so just give me a moment. 598 00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:16,975 - [Louise] The pastor of the church eventually conceded 599 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,440 that a serious crime was committed against Karen. 600 00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:25,323 In 2011, Karen reported the assaults to police. 601 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,868 They decided there was insufficient 602 00:29:27,892 --> 00:29:29,423 evidence to proceed. 603 00:29:31,930 --> 00:29:33,600 - The emotional effect and the trauma, 604 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,571 we have since learned, is never out of her mind. 605 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,281 And for us, as a whole family, 606 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:42,414 we've had now 30 years 607 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,400 of what has been trauma and traumatic. 608 00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:50,645 It's huge, it doesn't go away, ever. 609 00:29:52,185 --> 00:29:55,018 (thunder rumbles) 610 00:29:56,202 --> 00:29:59,202 (suspenseful music) 611 00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:10,320 - [Louise] Karen Stewart's experience as a survivor 612 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,455 has amplified her distress 613 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,198 over her brother's obsession with QAnon 614 00:30:15,223 --> 00:30:19,456 and its discredited theory about ritual sexual abuse. 615 00:30:23,770 --> 00:30:25,913 - They talk about saving the children, 616 00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:29,370 but I was that child. 617 00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:31,841 I was once the child that they claim they're saving. 618 00:30:32,370 --> 00:30:35,552 My life is the worse for having QAnon in it. 619 00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:40,410 That was one of the moments where I recognised 620 00:30:40,410 --> 00:30:44,430 that my brother cared more about QAnon 621 00:30:44,430 --> 00:30:47,495 than about the healing of people 622 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,280 in relation to their own child sexual abuse. 623 00:30:52,210 --> 00:30:55,020 - QAnon hasn't made the world a better place for survivors. 624 00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:57,280 It hasn't made the world a better place for children. 625 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,415 We can't point to one positive development or advancement 626 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,815 that has been driven by QAnon, 627 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,440 and it risks submerging, you know, legitimate issues, 628 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,745 legitimate disclosures within a conspiracy culture. 629 00:31:10,745 --> 00:31:13,328 (solemn music) 630 00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:25,490 - [Louise] In the past couple of years, 631 00:31:25,490 --> 00:31:28,900 Karen Stewart has become estranged from her brother, Tim, 632 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:32,533 and their political beliefs have become even more polarized. 633 00:31:34,940 --> 00:31:38,360 Karen ran as a state candidate for the Greens, 634 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,640 while Tim Stewart's views became extreme 635 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,143 and sometimes bizarre. 636 00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:49,300 - Tim would be in a place that I knew I couldn't follow. 637 00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:53,840 And so, that's what began to create a division between us, 638 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,950 because I couldn't go to the same places 639 00:31:55,950 --> 00:31:57,710 that he would consider he was in, 640 00:31:57,710 --> 00:32:02,193 and believe what he believed and support what he supports. 641 00:32:02,295 --> 00:32:03,895 (typing on keyboard) 642 00:32:04,330 --> 00:32:06,710 - [Louise] For families affected by QAnon, 643 00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:08,483 it's a common experience. 644 00:32:09,550 --> 00:32:11,210 - When I was deep into QAnon, 645 00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:14,320 it destroyed beyond repair a lot, 646 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,200 if not most, of my relationships, 647 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,204 because, at some point, you can't not talk about QAnon. 648 00:32:20,510 --> 00:32:22,970 You're like this homeless guy on the street, 649 00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:24,660 shouting about judgment day. 650 00:32:24,660 --> 00:32:28,150 And even then, it's not a discussion. 651 00:32:28,150 --> 00:32:31,340 You're not talking to the person, you're talking at them, 652 00:32:31,340 --> 00:32:33,370 and they're standing there and sitting there 653 00:32:33,370 --> 00:32:36,410 and you can see, like, the disinterest in their eyes. 654 00:32:36,410 --> 00:32:39,590 You can see the almost disdain and the pity, 655 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:41,573 but you cannot stop yourself. 656 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,480 - [Louise] Tim Stewart and his son Jesse 657 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:49,350 have become increasingly well known in the QAnon world. 658 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,189 - There's quite a story with you two. 659 00:32:51,214 --> 00:32:53,224 - [Louise] In November, they were interviewed 660 00:32:53,250 --> 00:32:55,353 on a YouTube QAnon talk show. 661 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,400 - [Jesse] Thanks for having me on. It's an honor to be here. 662 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,410 - [Louise] Both appeared using their online personas, 663 00:33:00,410 --> 00:33:04,740 Burn Notice for Tim and Negan HQ for Jesse. 664 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,060 The hosts applauded the father and son duo. 665 00:33:09,855 --> 00:33:12,045 - [Tim] It was actually kind of good. 666 00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:15,390 We could really start looking at things together 667 00:33:15,390 --> 00:33:19,230 and exploring stuff together, once we knew who we were. 668 00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:20,836 - [Host] What a great bond. 669 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,677 I mean, that's just the great thing. 670 00:33:22,690 --> 00:33:24,310 You're both, like, separate patriots 671 00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:26,300 that found out you were patriots in the same war, 672 00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:29,015 in the same troop and the same battalion. 673 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,081 - [Tim] (chuckles) Yeah. 674 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,730 - [Host] You didn't answer a question, Burn, who Q was. 675 00:33:35,002 --> 00:33:36,542 Who do you think Q is? 676 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,680 - [Tim] Whether it's a, you know, 677 00:33:39,690 --> 00:33:42,590 cosmic social experiment on humanity, 678 00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:46,630 or a really clever person from the NSA, 679 00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:49,154 that's just, you know, gone out on their own and gone rogue. 680 00:33:49,179 --> 00:33:50,200 - [Host] Yeah. 681 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,826 - [Tim] Whatever the case is, it's worth keeping an eye on. 682 00:33:53,849 --> 00:33:56,849 (suspenseful music) 683 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,143 (crowd cheers) 684 00:34:06,868 --> 00:34:08,633 (crowd sings) 685 00:34:08,633 --> 00:34:09,777 (horn blows) 686 00:34:09,777 --> 00:34:11,420 - [Louise] Before the U.S. election, 687 00:34:11,420 --> 00:34:13,438 Tim Stewart re-posted a comment 688 00:34:13,438 --> 00:34:18,438 on the far right social media platform, Gab, saying. 689 00:34:18,507 --> 00:34:20,537 - [Tim] It is our obligation to overthrow 690 00:34:20,562 --> 00:34:22,782 the tyrannical ruling class. 691 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,760 - Two more days. - After Joe Biden 692 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,420 won the election, Tim Stewart posted. 693 00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:30,275 - [Tim] The Deep State have committed open electoral fraud 694 00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,115 in full view of the world. 695 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,235 Things are about to get very messy 696 00:34:34,260 --> 00:34:35,929 for those who commit treason, 697 00:34:35,954 --> 00:34:39,137 and for those who aid and abet those committing treason. 698 00:34:40,350 --> 00:34:42,055 - [Louise] Jesse Stewart wrote. 699 00:34:42,055 --> 00:34:43,980 - [Jesse] We shall go on to the end. 700 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:46,250 We shall fight on a global scale. 701 00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:48,630 We shall fight in the fields and in the streets. 702 00:34:48,940 --> 00:34:50,466 We shall never surrender. 703 00:34:50,983 --> 00:34:52,873 Our movement beyond the seas, 704 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,335 armed and guarded by the QAnon Fleet, 705 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,720 would carry on the struggle. 706 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,282 - [Louise] The subject of Tim Stewart's beliefs 707 00:35:02,307 --> 00:35:04,947 and his relationship with the Prime Minister 708 00:35:04,972 --> 00:35:08,063 has been raised in the Senate three times. 709 00:35:08,570 --> 00:35:10,961 - Please don't make assertions about what I'm doing. 710 00:35:10,986 --> 00:35:14,996 - [Louise] In October 2019, Labour Senator Penny Wong 711 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,620 raised questions about Lynelle Stewart's employment 712 00:35:18,645 --> 00:35:20,415 at Kirribilli House. 713 00:35:20,450 --> 00:35:22,390 - Is a close friend of the Prime Minister 714 00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:24,080 one of Australia's leading proponents 715 00:35:24,105 --> 00:35:26,031 of the QAnon conspiracy theory? 716 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,069 Is a partner of that person on the Prime Minister's staff? 717 00:35:30,510 --> 00:35:32,820 Has a QAnon conspiracist been invited 718 00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:36,200 to either the Kirribilli or the lodge? 719 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,920 And another assertion in the story is that 720 00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:40,200 information from this person 721 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,550 has been passed directly to the Prime Minister. 722 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:46,633 Has the department, in this- 723 00:35:46,658 --> 00:35:48,320 - So, I'm taking all of these questions on notice. 724 00:35:48,345 --> 00:35:50,024 - Yeah, I understood that. Yeah, I understood that. 725 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,086 - [Louise] The Prime Minister's department later responded, 726 00:35:54,111 --> 00:35:57,531 saying that the personal relationships of the PM's staff 727 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,225 were not a matter for the department, 728 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,880 and that it had no knowledge of the other issues raised. 729 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,690 Soon after this Senate hearing, 730 00:36:06,715 --> 00:36:09,935 Scott Morrison posted a jovial comment 731 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,962 on Tim Stewart's Facebook page. 732 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,782 "Happy birthday, Tim Stewart. 733 00:36:14,807 --> 00:36:18,017 Nice to see the mullet out of the time capsule." 734 00:36:18,042 --> 00:36:20,429 Tim replied, "Thanks, mate." 735 00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:26,079 - I don't understand why the Prime Minister 736 00:36:26,104 --> 00:36:28,944 would want to be seen to be with someone 737 00:36:28,990 --> 00:36:31,710 who has such radical beliefs. 738 00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:35,040 That's not who I would want any Prime Minister, 739 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,680 regardless of who they are, hanging around with, 740 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,500 hearing the sorts of things that come out of Tim's mouth 741 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:43,123 in relation to QAnon. 742 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,760 - [Louise] The Stewart family recall how, that year, 743 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,120 Tim and Lynelle Stewart told them 744 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,520 that they were hoping to holiday in Hawaii 745 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,273 with the Morrisons over summer. 746 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,520 - Tim and Lynelle were just sharing 747 00:36:58,530 --> 00:37:00,568 that there was a holiday planned in Hawaii, 748 00:37:00,568 --> 00:37:02,710 and my impression was that it was going to be 749 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:04,668 a heap up of quite a few families, 750 00:37:04,692 --> 00:37:06,170 which would include many 751 00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:08,230 who've been going to Hawaii for years. 752 00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:10,375 They would have all been involved. 753 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,240 Scott and Jenny were going to go as well. 754 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,662 That was mentioned. 755 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,475 (helicopter blades whirr) 756 00:37:18,685 --> 00:37:21,352 (ominous music) 757 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:28,400 - [Louise] In December 2019, 758 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,970 during the Black Summer bush fires, 759 00:37:30,970 --> 00:37:35,138 the Prime Minister went on leave and flew to Honolulu. 760 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,175 - [Journalist] Prime Minister Scott Morrison 761 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,920 has attracted criticism for holidaying in Hawaii 762 00:37:39,945 --> 00:37:42,779 as blazes continue to burn across the country. 763 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,668 - [Louise] After photographs emerged on social media, 764 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,246 Mr. Morrison rang in to a radio station. 765 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,840 - [Scott] The girls and Jen, they love holidaying in Hawaii, 766 00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:54,621 and so, we've had a few nice days here. 767 00:37:56,510 --> 00:37:59,577 - [Louise] Mr. Morrison was forced to cut short his trip, 768 00:37:59,602 --> 00:38:03,945 the same day as Tim Stewart's family flew to Hawaii. 769 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,044 - [Scott] The girls and Jen will stay on, 770 00:38:07,069 --> 00:38:09,043 and stay out the rest of the time we had booked here, 771 00:38:09,090 --> 00:38:11,057 but I know Australians will understand this, 772 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:13,480 and they'll be pleased I'm coming back, I'm sure. 773 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,550 But they know that, you know, I don't hold a hose, mate, 774 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,143 and I don't sit in the control room. 775 00:38:19,035 --> 00:38:21,195 - [Louise] The Prime Minister did not respond 776 00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:24,160 on the record to Four Corners' questions 777 00:38:24,190 --> 00:38:26,013 about the Hawaii trip. 778 00:38:26,485 --> 00:38:29,630 (solemn music) 779 00:38:29,630 --> 00:38:30,670 In the past year, 780 00:38:30,670 --> 00:38:33,980 as part of a global crackdown on QAnon accounts, 781 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,960 Twitter has permanently suspended 782 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,760 Tim and Jesse Stewart's accounts 783 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,062 for engaging in coordinated, harmful activity. 784 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,260 - It's public interest- - In October last year, 785 00:38:47,260 --> 00:38:48,849 the concerns about Tim Stewart 786 00:38:48,849 --> 00:38:51,710 were again raised in the Senate. 787 00:38:51,710 --> 00:38:54,340 - Are you aware that the Prime Minister's close friend 788 00:38:54,340 --> 00:38:55,760 has been banned from Twitter 789 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,940 for what the social media platform describes 790 00:38:57,940 --> 00:39:00,003 as coordinated, harmful activity? 791 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:02,590 - I mean, I'm not sure that 792 00:39:03,830 --> 00:39:08,200 you can characterize that person, 793 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,680 whom I don't know, 794 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,893 based on the fact that the wife is employed, 795 00:39:14,770 --> 00:39:17,140 having gone through all of the relevant checks. 796 00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:19,406 I mean, I don't know that that's reasonable. 797 00:39:19,406 --> 00:39:22,077 The only thing that I'm aware of is that, 798 00:39:22,077 --> 00:39:24,337 as has been confirmed by Ms. Foster, 799 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:29,320 is that the woman concerned has been employed. 800 00:39:29,330 --> 00:39:31,330 There doesn't seem to be any suggestion 801 00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:34,020 that there is anything concerned. 802 00:39:34,020 --> 00:39:36,750 - [Louise] The Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet 803 00:39:36,750 --> 00:39:39,150 was also asked about the inclusion 804 00:39:39,150 --> 00:39:43,810 of the phrase ritual abuse in the 2018 apology. 805 00:39:43,810 --> 00:39:45,240 - So, there's an allegation that 806 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:47,423 there were changes to the speech, 807 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,310 including, and this seems farfetched, 808 00:39:51,310 --> 00:39:54,372 but I think it would be useful to put it to you, 809 00:39:54,372 --> 00:39:57,250 to make sure it's refuted, 810 00:39:57,250 --> 00:40:00,910 that this close associate had urged a change 811 00:40:00,910 --> 00:40:02,070 to the Prime Minister's speech, 812 00:40:02,070 --> 00:40:05,360 to use a different word, the word being ritual. 813 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,240 So I'm just thinking, I'm asking, 814 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,010 can we use this opportunity to make clear 815 00:40:11,010 --> 00:40:12,520 that isn't the case? 816 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,029 - So, Senator, I don't know. 817 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,520 I've just asked all of my staff openly 818 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,900 if anyone has any information. 819 00:40:20,930 --> 00:40:22,800 It would appear that the answer is no. 820 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,530 So, the best I can do is take that on notice. 821 00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:25,870 - [Senator] Okay, that's fine. 822 00:40:25,870 --> 00:40:28,713 - [Louise] No answer to that question was provided. 823 00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:32,550 Jesse Stewart blamed members of his family 824 00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:33,860 for the Twitter ban, 825 00:40:33,860 --> 00:40:36,293 and sent them threatening text messages. 826 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,760 - [Jesse] You better tread lightly, also. 827 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,430 Wanna play with fire, and you will get burned. 828 00:40:42,430 --> 00:40:43,894 Watch yourself, buddy. 829 00:40:44,462 --> 00:40:47,920 I'll make you lot famous, all of you. 830 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,567 Fuck around and find out. 831 00:40:51,460 --> 00:40:53,775 - [Louise] Your grandson, Jesse, 832 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,925 has sent threatening messages to the rest of your family. 833 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,160 - Yes, very much so. 834 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,040 Yeah, that's been for a period of just over a year 835 00:41:03,065 --> 00:41:05,725 that that's been happening, yes. 836 00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:06,925 Things escalated. 837 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,531 - My mother, a lovely woman, was, 838 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,400 I don't know if I can swear on this, 839 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,870 but called it a cowardly mother fucker, 840 00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:19,020 so these are not your standard responses to a grandmother. 841 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,000 And so, they were quite concerning, 842 00:41:22,010 --> 00:41:25,630 and at that point we recognised, all right, 843 00:41:25,630 --> 00:41:27,570 there's a level of radicalization 844 00:41:27,570 --> 00:41:31,133 that is very different to even a year prior to that. 845 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,000 - [Louise] Late last year, 846 00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:36,655 the Stewart family became so concerned 847 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,841 they took the extraordinary step 848 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,695 of reporting Tim and Jesse Stewart 849 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:46,080 to the National Security Hotline several times. 850 00:41:46,090 --> 00:41:48,788 - So, it was at that moment that we decided 851 00:41:48,788 --> 00:41:51,530 we can make excuses for lots of things, 852 00:41:51,530 --> 00:41:55,295 but if we're under threat and our safety is a concern, 853 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,280 we have to legitimately inform somebody, 854 00:41:58,290 --> 00:42:01,134 'cause we no longer know these people. 855 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,615 So, we did make a report to the authorities 856 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,589 to ensure that we were doing the right thing 857 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,086 as community members. 858 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,433 - I don't know what might happen in Australia, 859 00:42:11,460 --> 00:42:13,780 but that's what raises our concern, 860 00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:16,600 that we do have family members who are involved in something 861 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,073 that could finish up being a threat to Australia. 862 00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:24,660 - [Louise] The director general of ASIO, 863 00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:28,790 Australia's top spy chief, has also been informed 864 00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:32,183 about the activities of Tim and Jesse Stewart. 865 00:42:33,907 --> 00:42:36,997 Tim Stewart told Four Corners. 866 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,270 - [Tim] I am too busy to read questions 867 00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:41,880 relating to the nonsense that's been put out there, 868 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,871 which are just hit pieces. 869 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,440 I don't promote or support any kind of violence. 870 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,665 - Four Corners has learned that Lynelle Stewart 871 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,177 stopped working at Kirribilli House 872 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:55,869 at the end of last year. 873 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,671 Scott Morrison did not respond on the record 874 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,855 to Four Corners' questions 875 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,480 about whether he and Tim Stewart are still friends. 876 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,840 - I think it's important for the Prime Minister 877 00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:13,415 and any other national leader to disavow individuals, 878 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,240 either within their orbit or outside of their orbit, 879 00:43:16,270 --> 00:43:19,326 who harbor these types of extremist views. 880 00:43:19,351 --> 00:43:21,495 That's really important, and look, I understand, 881 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,175 again, we all have friends and family members 882 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,360 that have unorthodox views, 883 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:29,380 but when you're put in a position of public trust, 884 00:43:29,380 --> 00:43:31,380 you have to maintain the public's trust. 885 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:36,680 - [Louise] In recent months, Tim Stewart has shared posts 886 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:41,137 of Donald Trump calling the U.S. election The Big Lie, 887 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,055 and has reposted conspiracies 888 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,240 equating vaccines with Nazi-ism. 889 00:43:51,210 --> 00:43:53,508 Jesse Stewart has started criticizing 890 00:43:53,532 --> 00:43:55,561 Scott Morrison online. 891 00:43:55,970 --> 00:43:57,735 - [Jesse] If governments start going the route 892 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,575 of vaccine coercion, mandates, 893 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,240 restrictions for those who refuse, vaccine passport, 894 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,550 or any other draconian idea, 895 00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:08,870 then mother fuckers are getting lynched. 896 00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:10,709 Call me extreme, crazy. 897 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:11,834 I don't give a fuck. 898 00:44:12,270 --> 00:44:14,654 Fuck around and find out, Australian government. 899 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,770 - [Louise] On April 28, in response to a post 900 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,986 about corrupt politicians, Jesse Stewart said. 901 00:44:21,011 --> 00:44:24,821 - [Jesse] I'd pay two grand to see certain people hanged. 902 00:44:24,860 --> 00:44:28,130 - [Jesse] In an email to Four Corners, Jesse Stewart said 903 00:44:28,130 --> 00:44:31,130 he was referring to traitors and paedophiles. 904 00:44:31,973 --> 00:44:35,930 He described himself as a shitposter and satirist, 905 00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:40,747 and said, "I never have, nor will participate in violence." 906 00:44:43,060 --> 00:44:47,070 - The experience of watching someone become radicalized 907 00:44:47,070 --> 00:44:50,500 is the most unusual thing. 908 00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:53,020 We know how we get to know a stranger, 909 00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:55,140 and bit by bit with every conversations, 910 00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:57,413 you become to either like them or not like them, 911 00:44:57,413 --> 00:45:01,320 and you can start a long-term relationship with a friend 912 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,145 because of how that's panned out, 913 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,480 but we never talk about what might happen 914 00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:07,310 if it goes in reverse. 915 00:45:07,310 --> 00:45:12,130 So, the loving and caring brother and nephew, 916 00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:13,240 it went in reverse. 917 00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,596 They became strangers. 918 00:45:15,596 --> 00:45:17,866 - This is a question for you, Senator Birmingham. 919 00:45:17,866 --> 00:45:19,190 - [Louise] Three weeks ago, 920 00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:22,520 questions were again raised in Senate estimates 921 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,427 about the Prime Minister's view of Tim Stewart's beliefs. 922 00:45:26,427 --> 00:45:28,470 - So, the questions relate to whether or not 923 00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:31,820 the Prime Minister had anything to say about comments 924 00:45:31,820 --> 00:45:35,103 by his friend and QAnon proponent, a Mr. Tim Stewart, 925 00:45:35,103 --> 00:45:37,890 describing the day of the Capitol Hill attack 926 00:45:37,890 --> 00:45:40,263 as one of the greatest days on earth. 927 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,240 Crikey also asked the PM what measures, 928 00:45:44,251 --> 00:45:46,450 if any, were in place to prevent Mr. Stewart 929 00:45:46,450 --> 00:45:48,580 having access to confidential information 930 00:45:48,580 --> 00:45:50,183 about the Prime Minister. 931 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,720 What are the answers to those questions? 932 00:45:53,897 --> 00:45:57,575 - Well, Senator Wong, in terms of, 933 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,890 if you want to pose those questions, 934 00:45:59,890 --> 00:46:01,730 I'll happily take them on notice for you 935 00:46:01,730 --> 00:46:05,945 in terms of a response being provided. 936 00:46:06,620 --> 00:46:10,924 - Do you agree that a friend of Mr Morrison's 937 00:46:10,924 --> 00:46:13,540 who adheres to these theories 938 00:46:13,540 --> 00:46:16,163 is a possible vector for foreign interference? 939 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,784 - Senator, 940 00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:23,143 I am not aware of the nature of the relationship, 941 00:46:24,461 --> 00:46:27,073 so in that sense, 942 00:46:27,073 --> 00:46:30,760 it's to some extent a hypothetical, 943 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,970 but I can certainly assure you that 944 00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:34,420 the Prime Minister takes 945 00:46:35,410 --> 00:46:39,836 his security obligations seriously, 946 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,240 and is alert to all threats 947 00:46:44,274 --> 00:46:48,655 that security agencies brief him on. 948 00:46:49,165 --> 00:46:51,110 - [Louise] There has still been no response 949 00:46:51,110 --> 00:46:53,403 to the questions taken on notice. 950 00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:58,540 Four Corners contacted the Prime Minister 951 00:46:58,540 --> 00:47:02,407 with a detailed list of questions five weeks ago, 952 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,048 and followed up with his office more than 20 times. 953 00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:07,481 - Last question. 954 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,195 - [Louise] On June the fourth, 955 00:47:09,220 --> 00:47:11,769 the Prime Minister was asked at a press conference 956 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,652 about Four Corners' story. 957 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,750 - Are you concerned the ABC's involved 958 00:47:15,775 --> 00:47:17,795 in so-called vigilante journalism? 959 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,395 Were the allegations put to you, 960 00:47:19,420 --> 00:47:20,830 and what is your connection to the man 961 00:47:20,830 --> 00:47:22,100 at the center of that story? 962 00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:25,340 - I find it deeply offensive that there would be 963 00:47:25,340 --> 00:47:28,760 any suggestion that I would have any involvement 964 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,584 or support for such a dangerous organization. 965 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,756 I clearly do not. 966 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,782 It's also just very disappointing that Four Corners, 967 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,904 in their inquiries, 968 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,160 would seek to cast this aspersion, not just against me, 969 00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:44,149 but by members of my own family. 970 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,641 I just think that's really poor form. 971 00:47:47,666 --> 00:47:48,798 - [Louise] Two days later, 972 00:47:48,823 --> 00:47:50,523 a spokesman for the Prime Minister 973 00:47:50,555 --> 00:47:53,485 provided a one paragraph statement 974 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,597 on the record to the program. 975 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,360 - [Spokesperson] This is a personally motivated slur 976 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,566 against the Prime Minister and his family 977 00:48:00,770 --> 00:48:02,260 by a Four Corners program 978 00:48:02,260 --> 00:48:04,860 that is already facing serious questions 979 00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:08,750 about the accuracy, bias, and credibility of its journalism, 980 00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:10,110 that is now giving credence 981 00:48:10,110 --> 00:48:12,640 to irrational Twitter conspiracy theorists, 982 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,190 and raising the profile of what the Prime Minister 983 00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:18,663 clearly deems and discredited and dangerous fringe group. 984 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,640 (suspenseful music) 985 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,088 - You'll have to serve each other. 986 00:48:34,113 --> 00:48:35,552 Pass it around. 987 00:48:35,552 --> 00:48:38,221 (family chatters) 988 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:41,040 We popped over to see them all the other day, 989 00:48:41,070 --> 00:48:43,800 so it was quite lovely to get a few photos 990 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,680 and feel part of that very extended family 991 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,413 that we don't always get to see. 992 00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:53,150 - [Louise] The Stewart clan is deeply troubled 993 00:48:53,150 --> 00:48:55,780 by the breakdown of their family. 994 00:48:55,780 --> 00:48:58,543 They haven't given up on Jesse and Tim. 995 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,604 - I'm not a psychologist, I'm his mum. 996 00:49:02,951 --> 00:49:06,357 And I hope that, one day, some of this might be in the past, 997 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:11,160 but I know that there are just concerns that we would have 998 00:49:11,170 --> 00:49:14,450 in hearing and watching some of what has happened 999 00:49:14,450 --> 00:49:17,233 over, particularly, this last year or so. 1000 00:49:20,385 --> 00:49:23,195 - I think almost all of us have broken down on the phone, 1001 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,713 trying to explain the loss of a family member. 1002 00:49:29,271 --> 00:49:31,530 And I know my mother has viewed it, 1003 00:49:31,530 --> 00:49:33,760 she's described it as grieving, 1004 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,030 grieving the loss of someone who's still alive. 1005 00:49:37,055 --> 00:49:40,577 And that's a very confusing emotion, 1006 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,390 and I feel for her in that, and Dad. 1007 00:49:51,376 --> 00:49:54,126 (dramatic music) 75410

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