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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,074 Subtitles downloaded from Podnapisi.NET 2 00:00:18,936 --> 00:00:21,896 On my first day of law school, my professor says two things. 3 00:00:21,980 --> 00:00:25,066 First, "From this day forward, when your mother says she loves you, 4 00:00:25,150 --> 00:00:27,860 - "get a second opinion." - And? 5 00:00:27,945 --> 00:00:29,946 "If you want justice, go to a whorehouse. 6 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:32,699 "If you want to get fucked, go to court." 7 00:00:32,783 --> 00:00:33,741 Naomi! 8 00:00:33,826 --> 00:00:35,952 Let's say you have a client who you know is guilty... 9 00:00:36,036 --> 00:00:37,537 No, don't even start with that. 10 00:00:37,621 --> 00:00:40,248 Our justice system doesn't care about that, and neither do I. 11 00:00:40,332 --> 00:00:43,042 Every defendant, no matter who he is, regardless of what he's done, 12 00:00:43,127 --> 00:00:46,087 has the right to the best defense his attorney can provide. Period. 13 00:00:46,171 --> 00:00:48,548 - So where were you with the truth? - Truth? 14 00:00:50,676 --> 00:00:53,219 - How do you mean? Naomi! - Coming. 15 00:00:53,303 --> 00:00:56,222 I'm not sure how many ways there are to mean it. 16 00:00:56,306 --> 00:00:57,432 You think there's only one? 17 00:00:57,516 --> 00:00:58,933 - I can't do this. - You're late. 18 00:00:59,017 --> 00:01:00,810 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay. 19 00:01:00,894 --> 00:01:02,687 Actually, you're right, you know. 20 00:01:02,771 --> 00:01:04,772 - There is only one that matters. - Marty, hold still, please. 21 00:01:04,857 --> 00:01:05,982 My version of it, 22 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:09,652 the one I create in the minds of those 12 men and women sitting on a jury. 23 00:01:09,737 --> 00:01:11,821 Now, if you want to, you can call it something else. 24 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:15,950 The... The illusion of truth, if you want. It's up to you. 25 00:01:16,034 --> 00:01:18,286 - Good. Yeah. - Yeah? 26 00:01:20,164 --> 00:01:21,873 Jack, is that it? You need some more stuff? 27 00:01:21,957 --> 00:01:23,291 - Yeah. - Tomorrow afternoon? 28 00:01:23,375 --> 00:01:26,836 - Yeah. - All right, I'll have my secretary set it up. 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,045 Okay. 30 00:01:33,135 --> 00:01:35,219 - This is a cover story, right? - Yeah. 31 00:01:35,304 --> 00:01:36,929 Yeah. Okay, bye. 32 00:03:41,513 --> 00:03:44,265 Saint Michael's Boys Choir. Thank you. Thank you. 33 00:03:44,349 --> 00:03:46,392 - What a talented group. - Tell you after. 34 00:03:46,476 --> 00:03:48,019 - Sure. - Right now, ladies and gentlemen, 35 00:03:48,103 --> 00:03:49,812 we're gonna have a brief photo session 36 00:03:49,897 --> 00:03:52,398 while we have the boys here with His Excellency. 37 00:03:52,482 --> 00:03:53,983 I'll be back in a few minutes. 38 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:57,194 Please bear with us, enjoy your dessert and thank you. 39 00:03:57,279 --> 00:03:59,488 - Yes. - Here we go. Okay. 40 00:04:03,285 --> 00:04:04,952 Good, good. 41 00:04:08,665 --> 00:04:10,249 - Thank you. - Thank you. 42 00:04:10,334 --> 00:04:11,375 Thank you. 43 00:04:22,721 --> 00:04:25,765 Thanks. Marty. What an unexpected surprise. 44 00:04:25,849 --> 00:04:28,643 Well, I'm here to help our friendly prosecutor off the hook. 45 00:04:28,727 --> 00:04:31,187 - Excuse me. - What's it gonna cost? 46 00:04:31,855 --> 00:04:36,442 - A lot less than the alternative. - Tomorrow at my office, 9:30. 47 00:04:39,404 --> 00:04:42,198 - Is this on? Yes, it is. - Your Excellency. Nice to see you again. 48 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:45,409 Ladies and gentlemen, we have come to the heart of the matter, 49 00:04:45,494 --> 00:04:47,995 the reason we've all gathered together here tonight. 50 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,957 This is the fifth straight year that it's been my privilege 51 00:04:51,041 --> 00:04:52,959 to serve as your master of ceremonies 52 00:04:53,043 --> 00:04:55,753 for The Chicago Bar Association and Catholic Charities Ball. 53 00:04:55,837 --> 00:04:58,214 I'm afraid you're gonna have to put that out. 54 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:00,549 It's a bar, for Christ's sake. 55 00:05:00,801 --> 00:05:04,261 Tonight, due to your generous efforts, 56 00:05:04,346 --> 00:05:07,306 we've broken last year's record in terms of attendees and the amount 57 00:05:07,391 --> 00:05:09,308 - of money raised for the Archbishop's... - I thought you quit. 58 00:05:09,393 --> 00:05:10,810 - ...charity, and I think that deserves... - I cut down. 59 00:05:10,894 --> 00:05:12,395 ...a big round of applause. 60 00:05:13,271 --> 00:05:18,067 - You look beautiful. Cut your hair? - Yeah. A few months ago. 61 00:05:18,235 --> 00:05:20,820 And now, as it has been my pleasure for the last four years... 62 00:05:20,904 --> 00:05:24,699 - Want to dance? - There isn't any music. 63 00:05:25,575 --> 00:05:26,867 Sure there is. 64 00:05:26,952 --> 00:05:31,080 ...longtime State's Attorney, God love him, Mr. John Shaughnessy. 65 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:41,340 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, 66 00:05:41,425 --> 00:05:43,342 - and my personal thanks... - Come on. 67 00:05:43,427 --> 00:05:45,177 All you have to do is turn around. 68 00:05:45,262 --> 00:05:47,346 I thought you liked it better like this. 69 00:05:47,431 --> 00:05:50,182 That way you don't have to look at the person. 70 00:05:50,267 --> 00:05:51,434 Mean. 71 00:05:51,601 --> 00:05:53,602 Considering the hour, I'll try to keep... 72 00:05:53,687 --> 00:05:55,104 Look at me. 73 00:05:55,397 --> 00:05:57,523 First of all, I want to thank all of you for coming out tonight 74 00:05:57,607 --> 00:05:59,358 to support the Archbishop... 75 00:05:59,443 --> 00:06:03,112 Come on, let's go find a bar you can still smoke in. 76 00:06:03,196 --> 00:06:04,697 Thanks for the invite, 77 00:06:04,781 --> 00:06:08,284 but I don't like one-night stands all that much. 78 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:12,955 - We saw each other for months. - It was a one-night stand, Marty. 79 00:06:14,082 --> 00:06:16,125 It just lasted six months. 80 00:06:25,427 --> 00:06:27,053 Thank you, John. 81 00:06:28,346 --> 00:06:29,972 Well, I must say 82 00:06:30,057 --> 00:06:33,392 I haven't seen this many lawyers and politicians 83 00:06:33,477 --> 00:06:36,562 gathered together in one place since confession this morning. 84 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:50,868 There is no way the People are gonna tolerate 85 00:06:50,952 --> 00:06:55,081 a monetary award to a cockroach who deserves 20 to life. 86 00:06:55,165 --> 00:06:59,418 He may be your client, but Joey Pinero is a hard-case felon. 87 00:06:59,503 --> 00:07:00,586 Dealing, racketeering, 88 00:07:00,670 --> 00:07:04,048 - money-laundering, attempted murder. - Did you say "alleged," Yancy? 89 00:07:04,132 --> 00:07:06,425 I didn't hear you say... Did you hear him say "alleged"? 90 00:07:06,510 --> 00:07:08,886 Mr. Pinero has never been convicted of anything. 91 00:07:08,970 --> 00:07:10,971 Cops jumped him, left him bleeding in the snow. 92 00:07:11,056 --> 00:07:12,807 It's a miracle he survived. 93 00:07:12,891 --> 00:07:16,143 Having said that, I'm not opposed to a settlement. 94 00:07:18,188 --> 00:07:21,107 1 .5 million, and Pinero leaves the state. 95 00:07:26,613 --> 00:07:29,198 You can't limit a citizen's right to live wherever he wants to. 96 00:07:29,282 --> 00:07:30,741 Legally, that's unenforceable. 97 00:07:30,826 --> 00:07:33,911 Whether or not it's enforceable or just a gentlemen's agreement, 98 00:07:33,995 --> 00:07:36,455 Mr. Pinero will know what we want. 99 00:07:39,543 --> 00:07:41,085 Get the answer you're looking for. 100 00:07:41,169 --> 00:07:43,796 Don't sit around and chat. It's been a pleasure. 101 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,090 You're worse than the fucking thugs you represent. 102 00:07:46,174 --> 00:07:47,716 That's enough, Bud. It's over. 103 00:07:47,801 --> 00:07:51,011 - Obviously, I've got to run this by him. - You're on 40 % commission, Marty. 104 00:07:51,096 --> 00:07:54,890 I have nothing but confidence your recommendation will prevail. 105 00:07:54,975 --> 00:07:56,600 Thank you, John. 106 00:08:51,615 --> 00:08:52,907 My hand! 107 00:08:55,785 --> 00:08:57,119 Oh, shit. 108 00:10:00,809 --> 00:10:02,101 - Hey. - Mr. Vail. 109 00:10:02,185 --> 00:10:03,686 How you doing? 110 00:10:17,951 --> 00:10:19,326 Nice tune. 111 00:10:26,084 --> 00:10:28,502 So, what'd they say? 112 00:10:28,586 --> 00:10:33,299 Take it or leave it all for 1.5 million. From Shaughnessy himself. 113 00:10:35,385 --> 00:10:37,052 What do you think? 114 00:10:39,681 --> 00:10:41,348 I think we should take it, 115 00:10:41,433 --> 00:10:42,975 unless you want to spend the next two years of your life 116 00:10:43,059 --> 00:10:44,226 tied up in appellate court. 117 00:10:44,311 --> 00:10:46,729 - No, fuck that. Close it. - Done. 118 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,567 Okay. 119 00:10:59,576 --> 00:11:00,909 Your shot. 120 00:11:02,329 --> 00:11:04,788 There's one more little thing. 121 00:11:06,583 --> 00:11:09,793 They want you... They want you to leave the state. 122 00:11:10,253 --> 00:11:13,422 - They want you to disappear. - Disappear? 123 00:11:15,216 --> 00:11:19,762 - That's good. Same bullshit, right? - What? What are you talking about? 124 00:11:22,766 --> 00:11:25,851 I keep getting these offers from these guys, Marty. 125 00:11:25,935 --> 00:11:27,603 What offers? 126 00:11:27,687 --> 00:11:30,773 Well, a couple of months ago, a cop walks in here. 127 00:11:30,857 --> 00:11:35,069 He says, "You testify against Alderman Martinez, 128 00:11:35,153 --> 00:11:37,571 "and we'll owe you, Joey. 129 00:11:37,655 --> 00:11:40,157 "Say he did you favors, say he's on your payroll," 130 00:11:40,241 --> 00:11:43,118 shit like that, right? So I tell him to go fuck himself. 131 00:11:43,203 --> 00:11:45,829 Why? Because Martinez is a good man. 132 00:11:45,914 --> 00:11:47,122 He's the only one holding out 133 00:11:47,207 --> 00:11:50,751 while the others try to turn South River into high-rent condos. 134 00:11:50,835 --> 00:11:54,129 - Why didn't you tell me this before? - Why? 135 00:11:54,214 --> 00:11:56,382 'Cause this shit happens every day. 136 00:11:56,466 --> 00:11:58,258 I didn't think it had anything to do with this. 137 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:59,802 - You don't? - Hey. 138 00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:01,303 I've spent a lot of money in this place. 139 00:12:01,388 --> 00:12:03,722 - They've spent a lot more, a lot more. - I built a clinic here. 140 00:12:03,807 --> 00:12:06,600 - These people depend on me. - I don't give a shit. 141 00:12:06,684 --> 00:12:09,144 Send them checks from California. 142 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:21,990 I respect your advice, Marty, but I can't take it. 143 00:12:22,075 --> 00:12:23,742 I'll take the money, but I ain't going anywhere. 144 00:12:23,827 --> 00:12:26,578 - This is my home. - I don't like it, Joey. 145 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:32,167 - So what are they gonna do, kill me? - They tried once. 146 00:12:33,711 --> 00:12:36,839 How are they going to kill a man who never sleeps? 147 00:12:36,923 --> 00:12:38,590 - Get the money. - You're too much. 148 00:12:38,675 --> 00:12:40,926 - Hey. - Yeah. 149 00:12:41,010 --> 00:12:43,220 That song you like? Fourth cut. 150 00:12:45,056 --> 00:12:47,224 - Very nice, thank you. - Yeah. 151 00:13:05,368 --> 00:13:07,953 Christ, we got enough fucking cops here? 152 00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:10,372 No doubt, the police are gonna have their hands full with this one. 153 00:13:10,457 --> 00:13:12,124 Captain Stenner, can you tell us anything right now? 154 00:13:12,208 --> 00:13:14,293 I don't know anything. I just got here. 155 00:13:14,377 --> 00:13:16,753 Captain Stenner, can you tell us what's going on? 156 00:13:16,838 --> 00:13:18,005 Andy, I haven't seen anything yet. 157 00:13:18,089 --> 00:13:20,132 As soon as I go inside, I'll come out and tell you, okay? 158 00:13:20,216 --> 00:13:21,592 All right. 159 00:13:41,029 --> 00:13:44,198 You should be home in bed, Abel. It's going around. 160 00:13:44,282 --> 00:13:46,408 I'll consider that, Harvey. 161 00:13:50,371 --> 00:13:53,081 - Christ. - What a mess, huh? 162 00:14:12,936 --> 00:14:16,396 Sam, you got all you need? Okay, gently roll him over. 163 00:14:28,117 --> 00:14:29,618 Police! Stop! 164 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:33,247 Right thumb and forefinger severed. 165 00:14:33,331 --> 00:14:39,795 Symbol "B32.156" is carved into the chest. 166 00:14:46,386 --> 00:14:50,639 - Body temperature, still warm. - Captain, we got a live one on the run. 167 00:15:13,496 --> 00:15:16,415 You can see now, a passing train has separated the fleeing suspect... 168 00:15:16,499 --> 00:15:18,750 You want to know what I hate? I'll tell you what I hate. 169 00:15:18,835 --> 00:15:20,002 I hate when they go on and on 170 00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:22,170 about what big fucking whores the defense attorneys are. 171 00:15:22,255 --> 00:15:23,880 ...the suspect is headed into the train... 172 00:15:23,965 --> 00:15:26,425 We're the bad guys. You know why? 173 00:15:26,509 --> 00:15:27,843 'Cause we're always sitting next to some creep, 174 00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:29,595 we start to look creepy, you know? 175 00:15:29,679 --> 00:15:30,804 Plus, they assume they're guilty. 176 00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:33,390 You know, they assume they did it, and, like, we know or something. 177 00:15:33,474 --> 00:15:36,435 You don't know. You don't ask. You don't care. 178 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:38,312 You do the goddamn job. 179 00:15:38,396 --> 00:15:40,439 It's not like they're your friends, for Christ's sake. 180 00:15:40,523 --> 00:15:42,524 ...there's no telling where the suspect may have gone... 181 00:15:42,609 --> 00:15:45,152 Well, some are your friends, but... 182 00:15:55,872 --> 00:15:57,998 So, why'd you leave the State's Attorney's Office? 183 00:15:58,708 --> 00:16:00,208 Dead-end job. 184 00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:05,881 You either... You either run for office, or you end up a judge. 185 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:08,800 Why become an umpire when you can play ball? 186 00:16:08,885 --> 00:16:11,845 ...continue to pour into the area around Saint Michael's 187 00:16:11,929 --> 00:16:13,597 and the Archbishop's mansion. 188 00:16:31,741 --> 00:16:33,867 Over here! He's over here! 189 00:16:39,374 --> 00:16:41,583 We will, of course, stay with this shocking story 190 00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:44,169 as it continues to unfold throughout the day. 191 00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:45,712 Now, what we do know right now 192 00:16:45,797 --> 00:16:49,007 is that at approximately 11:08 this morning, this... 193 00:16:49,092 --> 00:16:51,635 So, when did you know you had them? 194 00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:54,429 Now, at this hour, the scene at Saint Michael's is crowded... 195 00:16:54,514 --> 00:16:56,056 - What? Sorry. - Was there a moment 196 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:58,308 during the Pinero trial when you said to yourself, 197 00:16:58,393 --> 00:17:00,018 "I've got them"? 198 00:17:01,479 --> 00:17:03,689 The day I took the case. Excuse me. 199 00:17:03,773 --> 00:17:05,065 ...the shocking murder this morning 200 00:17:05,149 --> 00:17:07,609 of one of Chicago's most beloved figures, 201 00:17:07,694 --> 00:17:11,029 Archbishop Richard Rushman, has left the city just numb. 202 00:17:11,114 --> 00:17:13,699 Okay, I understand we have Andy live. Let's go to Andy. 203 00:17:13,783 --> 00:17:14,950 Diann, we have just learned 204 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:17,703 that Chicago police have arrested a 19-year-old man 205 00:17:17,787 --> 00:17:20,539 tentatively identified as Aaron Stampler. 206 00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:22,124 Now, according to Captain Abel Stenner... 207 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:25,085 We're gonna have to reschedule. Call my office, okay? I'm sorry. 208 00:17:25,169 --> 00:17:28,046 ...underneath McCormick Place just minutes after the murder... 209 00:17:29,966 --> 00:17:33,510 ...through cold-blooded savagery, a beacon of hope has been taken from us. 210 00:17:33,594 --> 00:17:35,053 Law offices of Martin Vail. 211 00:17:35,138 --> 00:17:37,305 - You got the news on, by any chance? - Yeah, we're watching it. 212 00:17:37,432 --> 00:17:40,100 All right, I want you to call Sullivan in Judge Trotter's office. 213 00:17:40,184 --> 00:17:41,685 Find out where they took him, and call me right back. 214 00:17:41,769 --> 00:17:42,811 I'm at The Alibi. 215 00:17:42,979 --> 00:17:44,980 - A lot of guys are gonna want this one. - Okay. 216 00:17:45,940 --> 00:17:47,566 The police have taken the first steps, 217 00:17:47,650 --> 00:17:50,026 acting with speed and determination with the arrest. 218 00:18:11,215 --> 00:18:12,716 Are you taking the Stampler case? 219 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,926 Andy, I'm sorry. I can't talk to you about anything. 220 00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:17,471 Thank you very much. 221 00:18:18,556 --> 00:18:20,307 When are you gonna talk? 222 00:18:21,976 --> 00:18:24,436 - State's Attorney left yet? - Yeah. Yancy, no less. 223 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,314 - Yeah? P.D.? - Come and gone. Lockup! 224 00:18:28,649 --> 00:18:31,526 - Give my best to your brother. - Yeah, sure. 225 00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:35,655 I'd like to see him alone, if I could. 226 00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:37,199 All right, but I'm gonna have to lock you in. 227 00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:38,700 Understood. 228 00:19:06,938 --> 00:19:08,647 You know who I am? 229 00:19:09,607 --> 00:19:13,068 Well, no. No, sir. No, I don't. 230 00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:18,573 My name is Martin Vail. I'm what you call a big-shot attorney. 231 00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:22,536 I don't... I don't have no money. 232 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:24,120 No, I didn't think you did. 233 00:19:24,205 --> 00:19:26,832 I'm willing to take your case pro bono, 234 00:19:26,916 --> 00:19:30,836 which means you get all of my expertise and hard work for free. 235 00:19:32,255 --> 00:19:33,338 Or, if you want to, 236 00:19:33,422 --> 00:19:37,175 you could get the $40,000-a-year, court-appointed public defender, 237 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:39,469 who will almost certainly escort you personally to death row. 238 00:19:39,554 --> 00:19:41,346 Your choice. 239 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,598 No. No, sir. I... 240 00:19:44,934 --> 00:19:47,352 I'd surely be grateful for anything you could do for me. 241 00:19:47,436 --> 00:19:52,315 You're welcome. Now, your full name is? 242 00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:58,446 My... Aaron Luke Stampler. 243 00:20:00,783 --> 00:20:02,075 Stampler. 244 00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:06,663 - You from Kentucky, Aaron? - Yes, sir. I'm from Creekside. 245 00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:09,791 Does it say that there? 246 00:20:12,670 --> 00:20:15,297 How long you been here in Chicago? 247 00:20:15,673 --> 00:20:19,968 Well, two years next month, I think. 248 00:20:20,845 --> 00:20:23,722 - Have you ever been arrested? - No. No, sir. 249 00:20:27,977 --> 00:20:30,520 So how do you know the Archbishop? 250 00:20:33,816 --> 00:20:38,069 I was begging on the street up on Wacker Drive, 251 00:20:40,489 --> 00:20:43,658 Bishop Rushman came by in his Cadillac. 252 00:20:44,827 --> 00:20:47,829 He saw me, and he stopped. 253 00:20:49,165 --> 00:20:53,960 He took me into Savior House. I work as an altar boy. 254 00:20:54,629 --> 00:20:56,671 I sing in his choir. 255 00:20:57,048 --> 00:20:59,674 How long were you there at Savior House? 256 00:21:00,176 --> 00:21:01,760 Year, year and a half. 257 00:21:01,844 --> 00:21:04,846 You're supposed to leave when you're 18, 258 00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:11,561 but Bishop Rushman let me stay on way past my 19th birthday. 259 00:21:13,189 --> 00:21:15,023 That was nice of him. 260 00:21:18,194 --> 00:21:19,861 Yes. Yes, it was. 261 00:21:22,865 --> 00:21:26,326 Aaron, did you have any reason to dislike the Archbishop? 262 00:21:26,410 --> 00:21:29,746 Dislike? No. No, sir. 263 00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:33,249 He was like a father to me. 264 00:21:33,334 --> 00:21:34,960 Yeah, but you... 265 00:21:36,879 --> 00:21:38,922 How do I say this? Were... 266 00:21:40,007 --> 00:21:42,842 Were you in the room when he was murdered? 267 00:21:45,721 --> 00:21:47,722 How can you explain that? 268 00:21:49,016 --> 00:21:52,060 There was someone else in that room, Mr. Vail. 269 00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:56,314 - There was a third person? - Yes, sir. 270 00:21:56,399 --> 00:21:57,357 Did you tell the police this? 271 00:21:57,441 --> 00:22:00,986 Yes. Yes, I did, but they didn't believe me. 272 00:22:01,070 --> 00:22:03,488 All right. Well, you tell me now. 273 00:22:04,907 --> 00:22:09,244 I was returning a book to Bishop Rushman's library. 274 00:22:10,538 --> 00:22:14,749 I heard noise, so I went back into his... In his bedroom. 275 00:22:18,254 --> 00:22:21,840 Bishop Rushman was laying on the floor. 276 00:22:21,924 --> 00:22:24,926 There was blood all over everything. 277 00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:32,308 And then I seen a shadow. I seen a person leaning over Bishop Rushman. 278 00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:39,315 He looked up and then he came at me, and that's when I lost time. 279 00:22:40,943 --> 00:22:43,403 What does that mean, "lost time"? 280 00:22:44,113 --> 00:22:47,365 I blacked out. 281 00:22:48,284 --> 00:22:50,952 It just... It happens to me sometimes. 282 00:22:52,705 --> 00:22:56,875 I just... I have spells. 283 00:22:56,959 --> 00:23:00,086 I have spells. I lose time. I can't... 284 00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:03,673 I can't remember nothing. 285 00:23:08,888 --> 00:23:13,308 Why did you run from the police, Aaron, if you didn't do anything wrong? 286 00:23:13,809 --> 00:23:15,101 Well, when... 287 00:23:15,186 --> 00:23:18,271 When I woke up, I was covered in blood. 288 00:23:19,815 --> 00:23:25,445 I didn't know what to do. I got scared. I heard sirens, so I ran. 289 00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:29,074 Look, I know how it looks, Mr. Vail, but I swear... 290 00:23:29,158 --> 00:23:31,076 Yeah, I don't need you to try to convince me, Aaron. 291 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,744 I just want you to answer my questions. 292 00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:35,371 But I didn't do this. You've got to believe me. 293 00:23:35,456 --> 00:23:38,041 No, I don't have to believe you. I don't care. 294 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:39,167 I'm your attorney, 295 00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:44,798 which means I am your mother, your father, best friend and your priest. 296 00:23:46,342 --> 00:23:49,010 In other words, I don't want you talking to anyone but me from now on. 297 00:23:49,095 --> 00:23:51,971 Not the cops, not the press, not the other guys in the cells here, 298 00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:55,809 nobody without my permission, you understand? Yeah? 299 00:23:57,019 --> 00:23:59,479 - Yes. Yes, I do. - All right. 300 00:24:00,356 --> 00:24:03,441 Now the important stuff. What's your suit size? 301 00:24:05,027 --> 00:24:08,363 - My what? - Suit size. What, you're about a 38? 302 00:24:13,244 --> 00:24:15,286 I don't know. 303 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:18,748 - About a 38 long. - Okay. 304 00:24:19,667 --> 00:24:20,959 Stampler was flushed by the police 305 00:24:21,043 --> 00:24:23,670 from his hiding place in the bushes behind the cathedral. 306 00:24:23,754 --> 00:24:26,589 The police chased him through the train yard, just north of McCormick Place, 307 00:24:26,674 --> 00:24:29,425 almost losing him as he scrambled over tracks 308 00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:32,512 before an oncoming train, separating him from the police. 309 00:24:32,596 --> 00:24:33,596 In a later development, 310 00:24:33,681 --> 00:24:36,099 prominent local criminal defense attorney Martin Vail 311 00:24:36,183 --> 00:24:39,102 is believed to have visited Stampler at the Maxwell Street Precinct... 312 00:24:39,186 --> 00:24:43,106 After a brief chase across the rail yard behind Saint Michael's Cathedral, 313 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:46,317 Stampler was apprehended in a hole beneath train tracks. 314 00:24:46,402 --> 00:24:50,905 - Are you gonna defend this man? - Andy, I'm sorry. I can't... 315 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,490 Thank you very much. Thank you. 316 00:24:54,410 --> 00:24:56,744 We've taken the first step in the process. 317 00:24:56,829 --> 00:24:59,038 I can now take your questions. 318 00:24:59,123 --> 00:25:01,624 Can you tell us anything about the altar-boy group 319 00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:04,419 - that Aaron Stampler was part of? - Not much at this time. 320 00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:07,505 Have you ruled out the involvement of any of the other altar boys? 321 00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:10,258 We have no reason to suspect anyone other than Stampler. 322 00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:12,385 He had access to the Archbishop's quarters. 323 00:25:12,469 --> 00:25:14,554 He was caught fleeing the area of Saint Michael's. 324 00:25:14,638 --> 00:25:16,639 The blood-soaked Aaron Stampler was chased 325 00:25:16,724 --> 00:25:17,974 down under McCormick Place, 326 00:25:18,058 --> 00:25:20,351 but not before he was almost killed by a passing train. 327 00:25:20,436 --> 00:25:22,520 Law office of Martin Vail. 328 00:25:23,272 --> 00:25:25,106 He's gonna call you as soon as he gets in. 329 00:25:25,191 --> 00:25:27,358 I know. I promise you. Okay, thank you very much. 330 00:25:27,443 --> 00:25:28,902 - Naomi! - Yeah. 331 00:25:28,986 --> 00:25:30,069 - Talk to you later. Bye. - Hey. 332 00:25:30,154 --> 00:25:31,946 Sorry I'm late. We have a new client. 333 00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:35,033 - I was afraid you were gonna say that. - Who? 334 00:25:35,117 --> 00:25:37,368 You know what they're calling him already? 335 00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:39,954 - The Butcher Boy of Saint Mike's. - I like that. 336 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:41,581 Well, that's good. You're gonna be hearing it a lot. 337 00:25:41,665 --> 00:25:43,750 This kid who chopped up the Archbishop, he's our new client? 338 00:25:43,834 --> 00:25:45,210 Tommy, you're gonna have to try harder 339 00:25:45,294 --> 00:25:47,462 to get the word "allegedly" into your vocabulary, 340 00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:49,130 - especially if you want to be a lawyer. - Here you go. 341 00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:50,965 - Tommy, you want coffee? - No. No, thanks. 342 00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:54,219 All right. He admits he was in the room when the killing occurred, 343 00:25:54,303 --> 00:25:56,137 but he didn't actually see it happen. 344 00:25:56,263 --> 00:25:57,513 - Can I stop you right there? - No. 345 00:25:57,598 --> 00:25:59,891 He was returning a book to the Archbishop. 346 00:25:59,975 --> 00:26:02,894 He heard loud noises in the bedroom. 347 00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:05,396 He went in. He sees a figure, 348 00:26:05,481 --> 00:26:09,484 someone in the shadows kneeling over the body. He blacks out. 349 00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:10,777 Next thing he knows, 350 00:26:10,861 --> 00:26:12,946 sirens are screaming, he's covered in blood. 351 00:26:13,030 --> 00:26:15,114 The cops find him in a train tunnel. 352 00:26:15,199 --> 00:26:17,492 He's got the Archbishop's ring in his pocket. 353 00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:18,868 He stole the Archbishop's ring? 354 00:26:18,953 --> 00:26:22,080 I didn't say that. I said it was in his pocket. 355 00:26:25,626 --> 00:26:27,001 Is that it? 356 00:26:29,838 --> 00:26:30,922 Yep. 357 00:26:32,967 --> 00:26:36,636 That's... That's bullshit, Marty. 358 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,597 That's the worst bullshit story I've ever heard in my entire life. 359 00:26:39,682 --> 00:26:43,643 Now it's our bullshit story. Okay, let's get to work. 360 00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:46,938 Now, the name of the game here is motive, 361 00:26:47,022 --> 00:26:48,940 as in, the prosecution doesn't have one. 362 00:26:49,024 --> 00:26:50,441 So what we have to do here 363 00:26:50,526 --> 00:26:53,569 is prove that someone else could have committed the crime. 364 00:26:53,654 --> 00:26:55,571 Then we can establish reasonable doubt. 365 00:26:55,656 --> 00:26:58,449 So I want to know everything I can about this guy, everything he was into. 366 00:26:58,534 --> 00:27:02,745 We go to database, go to Hall of Records, IRS files. 367 00:27:02,830 --> 00:27:05,123 - Even his so-called charities. - So-called? 368 00:27:05,207 --> 00:27:07,875 The guy was a priest, for Christ's sake. 369 00:27:08,377 --> 00:27:13,423 Naomi, write this down. B-32.156. 370 00:27:13,507 --> 00:27:15,258 That was carved into the Archbishop's chest. 371 00:27:15,342 --> 00:27:17,010 - Allegedly. - No. 372 00:27:17,094 --> 00:27:19,804 That was a fact, but I appreciate the effort, Tommy. 373 00:27:19,888 --> 00:27:21,306 Thanks. 374 00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:23,641 I also need case histories on murder by stabbing, 375 00:27:23,726 --> 00:27:26,602 murder by mutilation, murder by religion. 376 00:27:26,687 --> 00:27:29,480 - Also, I'm gonna need a psychiatrist. - You're telling me. 377 00:27:29,565 --> 00:27:31,733 And not the kind that lives in a witness box, either. 378 00:27:31,817 --> 00:27:33,318 I need a real one this time, 379 00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:34,861 and someone who knows about amnesia. 380 00:27:34,945 --> 00:27:38,740 - What does he look like in person? - The Butcher Boy? 381 00:27:41,535 --> 00:27:43,328 Like a Boy Scout. 382 00:27:43,412 --> 00:27:47,415 A Boy Scout with a merit badge in carving. 383 00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:51,878 The Archbishop was a close personal friend of Mr. Shaughnessy. 384 00:27:51,962 --> 00:27:54,630 He came to me earlier this morning and asked me who was my best man, 385 00:27:54,715 --> 00:27:56,924 - I said you. - Thank you. 386 00:27:58,427 --> 00:28:00,720 I trust, Mr. Shaughnessy, if I am to prosecute this case, 387 00:28:00,804 --> 00:28:04,098 I'll be given the authority which comes with the assignment. 388 00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:08,686 You're the one trying the case, but let's establish one thing at the outset. 389 00:28:08,771 --> 00:28:10,772 I want the death penalty. 390 00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:13,775 I'd like an opportunity to go over the case 391 00:28:13,859 --> 00:28:15,109 before we make a determination 392 00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:16,694 on whether or not to seek the death penalty. 393 00:28:16,779 --> 00:28:18,529 I'm open to anything you have to say, Janet, 394 00:28:18,614 --> 00:28:21,115 but in my mind there's no debate. 395 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:25,703 Did he say anything, the boy they picked up? 396 00:28:25,788 --> 00:28:27,663 Yeah. He didn't do it. 397 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:30,541 It's a slam dunk, Janet. 398 00:28:31,377 --> 00:28:33,795 Excuse me. I appreciate your faith in me, 399 00:28:33,879 --> 00:28:35,213 and I don't mean to be argumentative... 400 00:28:35,297 --> 00:28:36,839 Hey, that's what we pay you for. 401 00:28:36,924 --> 00:28:39,842 ...but if it's as open and shut as you say it is, then you don't need me. 402 00:28:39,927 --> 00:28:44,555 The P.D. will plead no contest, throw the kid on the mercy of the court. 403 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:51,062 - There's not a public defender. - He's got a lawyer already? Who? 404 00:28:55,192 --> 00:28:59,028 Hey, I'm Martin Vail. I'm defending Aaron Stampler. 405 00:29:00,155 --> 00:29:04,409 - I need to inspect the murder site. - The Butcher Boy? 406 00:29:04,493 --> 00:29:07,245 Thank you. Yes. I forgot his real name. 407 00:29:13,502 --> 00:29:16,337 What's the matter, Marty, lost your faith? 408 00:29:17,381 --> 00:29:18,881 Looking for a little religion? 409 00:29:18,966 --> 00:29:20,091 Now tell me, Counselor, 410 00:29:20,175 --> 00:29:23,261 which one of us is the true headline-chaser here? 411 00:29:23,345 --> 00:29:27,181 - Unlike you, I was assigned to this case. - Yeah? Think you're up to it? 412 00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:30,435 Sell the book rights yet, or are you gonna wait a while? 413 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:32,562 Want to see some pictures? 414 00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:37,483 Come on. They're kind of cute. 415 00:29:42,072 --> 00:29:46,451 I think you'll agree they clearly show the heinous nature of the crime. 416 00:29:50,205 --> 00:29:52,081 A small piece of advice, 417 00:29:52,166 --> 00:29:54,584 don't use the word "heinous" in a courtroom. 418 00:29:54,668 --> 00:29:56,752 Half the jury won't know what you're talking about. 419 00:29:56,837 --> 00:29:58,337 One small piece of advice, 420 00:29:58,422 --> 00:30:00,798 I'm not sitting second chair to you anymore. 421 00:30:00,883 --> 00:30:03,676 In case you hadn't noticed, I graduated. 422 00:30:07,598 --> 00:30:11,309 - I had no reason to leave. - You had every reason to leave. 423 00:30:11,393 --> 00:30:12,477 How can you still work for them? 424 00:30:12,561 --> 00:30:16,105 What? You really expect me to trot out after you, Marty? 425 00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:21,152 Quit, just because you did? I don't need a Mercedes. 426 00:30:21,236 --> 00:30:24,405 I don't need to see my face on the evening news. 427 00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:32,288 You knew I was coming here, didn't you? 428 00:30:32,748 --> 00:30:35,291 You knew I would defend him. That's why you took the case. 429 00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:36,584 You asked Shaughnessy for this, didn't you? 430 00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:38,419 Oh, please. 431 00:30:40,172 --> 00:30:42,924 What's the matter, Marty, you nervous? 432 00:30:43,884 --> 00:30:47,762 Been a while since you rubbed up against a woman with a brain? 433 00:30:50,265 --> 00:30:53,518 What is the matter? You tired? You haven't been sleeping well? 434 00:30:53,602 --> 00:30:55,811 You're the one with the score to settle, Marty. 435 00:30:55,896 --> 00:30:57,813 I sleep great at night. 436 00:31:36,019 --> 00:31:37,812 - Hi. - Hey. 437 00:32:05,132 --> 00:32:06,340 Thanks. 438 00:32:08,051 --> 00:32:11,637 - Hey. Where is he? - Over here. 439 00:32:31,033 --> 00:32:32,783 All right, we'll be sitting at a table together, 440 00:32:32,868 --> 00:32:35,244 along with two of my associates. Now, once the charges are read, 441 00:32:35,329 --> 00:32:37,955 the judge is gonna ask you how you plead. 442 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,333 - Not guilty. - No. 443 00:32:40,417 --> 00:32:43,210 - But I'm not guilty, Mr. Vail. - I don't care. It doesn't matter. 444 00:32:43,295 --> 00:32:45,171 You can keep your mouth shut. You don't say anything. 445 00:32:45,255 --> 00:32:47,840 Well, you're going to say I'm not guilty. 446 00:32:47,924 --> 00:32:49,717 I'll say whatever I say. You don't have to worry about it. 447 00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:51,761 - But, Mr. Vail... - This is exactly what I'm talking about. 448 00:32:51,845 --> 00:32:54,805 This can't go on in the courtroom, so you might as well get used to it now. 449 00:32:54,890 --> 00:32:57,642 I speak. You do not speak. 450 00:32:57,726 --> 00:32:59,602 Your job is just to sit there and look innocent. 451 00:32:59,686 --> 00:33:01,479 Well, I am innocent. 452 00:33:02,564 --> 00:33:04,565 That's it! That's exactly how I want you to look. 453 00:33:04,650 --> 00:33:06,651 That's exactly it. Now, can you remember that? 454 00:33:06,735 --> 00:33:08,778 Look in the mirror if you have to. That's the look. 455 00:33:08,862 --> 00:33:11,989 I don't have to. This is how I always look. 456 00:33:12,074 --> 00:33:15,993 Well, then you're way ahead of the game already, aren't you? 457 00:33:16,078 --> 00:33:17,495 Don't smile. 458 00:33:20,082 --> 00:33:21,290 Don't. 459 00:33:30,217 --> 00:33:31,592 Mr. Vail, can we have a statement? 460 00:33:31,677 --> 00:33:33,094 No. We're gonna find out what happened here. 461 00:33:33,178 --> 00:33:35,888 How can you defend Aaron Stampler in the face of all this public pressure? 462 00:33:35,972 --> 00:33:37,264 The only pressure is to find the truth. 463 00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:38,683 ...with the Archbishop's blood on him. 464 00:33:38,767 --> 00:33:41,227 You've been talking to the police again, haven't you? I told you not to. 465 00:33:41,311 --> 00:33:42,645 As usual, they get everything wrong. 466 00:33:42,729 --> 00:33:43,771 Come on. How're you gonna explain 467 00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,439 the fact that he had blood-soaked clothing on him? 468 00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:46,691 - We all saw that. - At this juncture, 469 00:33:46,775 --> 00:33:47,858 I'm not going to explain it at all. 470 00:33:47,943 --> 00:33:49,944 I've only recently been retained in this case. 471 00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:53,614 Significant facts are in dispute here and continue to be in dispute. 472 00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:56,409 Marty, you're a master at putting the victim on trial 473 00:33:56,493 --> 00:33:57,785 to help your own client. 474 00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:59,995 That's going to be very difficult in this case. 475 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,665 A victim in this case is my client. 476 00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:05,876 We have two victims here, no suspects. Thank you very much. 477 00:34:05,961 --> 00:34:07,044 Are you worried about his safety, Marty? 478 00:34:07,129 --> 00:34:08,546 No. Thank you. 479 00:34:22,811 --> 00:34:24,061 It's not a case. 480 00:34:24,146 --> 00:34:26,939 I don't think there'll be any question about the verdict. 481 00:34:33,447 --> 00:34:34,739 All rise. 482 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:38,701 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. 483 00:34:39,661 --> 00:34:43,706 - Bailiff? - State v. Aaron Stampler. 484 00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:46,041 Is everyone here? Sit down. Is everyone here? 485 00:34:46,126 --> 00:34:48,085 Yes, Your Honor. 486 00:34:48,170 --> 00:34:49,754 Madam Prosecutor? 487 00:34:49,838 --> 00:34:52,214 The State charges the prisoner, Aaron Stampler, 488 00:34:52,299 --> 00:34:54,759 with the crime of murder in the first degree. 489 00:34:54,843 --> 00:34:56,552 How does your client plead, Counselor? 490 00:34:56,636 --> 00:34:57,762 Your Honor, if it pleases the court, 491 00:34:57,846 --> 00:35:01,098 I need time to make a complete psychiatric evaluation 492 00:35:01,183 --> 00:35:02,266 before any charges are brought against us. 493 00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:05,019 State has more than enough evidence to warrant the allegations, Your Honor. 494 00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:06,896 I agree. Motion denied. 495 00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:09,774 Mr. Stampler, 496 00:35:09,858 --> 00:35:11,776 do you understand the charges brought against you? 497 00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:14,111 - Yes. Yes, I... - Your Honor, I direct my client 498 00:35:14,196 --> 00:35:15,321 not to answer that question 499 00:35:15,405 --> 00:35:18,616 on the grounds that his response may tend to incriminate him. 500 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:19,784 The defendant is taking the Fifth 501 00:35:19,868 --> 00:35:21,619 on whether or not he understands the charges? 502 00:35:21,703 --> 00:35:25,247 Yes, Your Honor. Until we have a complete psychological evaluation, 503 00:35:25,332 --> 00:35:28,959 he will be taking the Fifth on any and all questions posed to him. 504 00:35:29,044 --> 00:35:33,756 State v. Appleby for your review of precedent. 505 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,216 Thank you. 506 00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:54,026 No, no, I can't do that. No. 507 00:35:57,697 --> 00:35:59,156 What do you want? 508 00:35:59,241 --> 00:36:03,077 I'm looking for the room a kid named Aaron Stampler stayed in. 509 00:36:04,955 --> 00:36:08,082 - You the police? - I'm his uncle. 510 00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:14,899 - Thanks. - Well, hey. 511 00:37:24,993 --> 00:37:27,912 - This is Alex's. - Who's Alex? 512 00:37:27,996 --> 00:37:32,249 - He's one of the other altar boys. - An altar boy? 513 00:37:32,334 --> 00:37:35,085 An altar boy was wearing this? 514 00:37:35,170 --> 00:37:37,421 Well, not at the mass. 515 00:37:39,174 --> 00:37:41,425 Well, this altar boy attacked a colleague of mine. 516 00:37:41,509 --> 00:37:43,427 He hurt him pretty bad. 517 00:37:47,515 --> 00:37:49,516 What do you think he was doing there in your room? 518 00:37:49,601 --> 00:37:51,185 - My room? - Yeah. 519 00:37:53,855 --> 00:37:57,483 I can't... I don't know. 520 00:37:57,567 --> 00:38:00,736 - I mean, I don't have nothing. - You know where I could find him? 521 00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:02,780 Who? Alex? 522 00:38:04,491 --> 00:38:07,868 - No, I don't... I don't know where he is. - You don't? 523 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:11,538 - Who's Linda? - Linda? 524 00:38:22,717 --> 00:38:24,468 She your girlfriend? 525 00:38:26,054 --> 00:38:30,599 - Where is she? I'd like to talk to her. - I don't know where she is. 526 00:38:30,684 --> 00:38:33,477 Why is it that I get this feeling you're not telling me something, Aaron? 527 00:38:33,561 --> 00:38:36,563 - I'm telling you the truth. - I don't think so. 528 00:38:36,648 --> 00:38:39,733 Are you surprised that Alex attacked my friend? 529 00:38:40,944 --> 00:38:45,531 - No. No, I mean, he has a temper. - Yeah. Yeah, I'd say so. 530 00:38:47,701 --> 00:38:50,869 Let me ask you this. Do you think it could be Alex 531 00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:54,373 who was that figure you saw at the Archbishop's room? 532 00:38:55,375 --> 00:38:59,753 - I... Alex? I couldn't be sure. - But it could be him? 533 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,964 I don't know. 534 00:39:02,048 --> 00:39:04,550 Aaron, you're not understanding this. The State wants you dead. 535 00:39:04,634 --> 00:39:07,136 If you don't help me, that's exactly what they're gonna get. 536 00:39:07,220 --> 00:39:08,303 I... 537 00:39:11,057 --> 00:39:13,934 I'm trying. I can't remember. 538 00:39:14,436 --> 00:39:17,688 I don't understand. Why would Alex want to do such a thing? 539 00:39:17,772 --> 00:39:21,108 For his own reasons. He... Maybe someone hired him. 540 00:39:23,028 --> 00:39:26,238 - Hired by who? - I don't know. Forget it. 541 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:32,161 What I need to know is, do you think he's capable of doing it? 542 00:39:32,245 --> 00:39:34,246 I don't know. He... 543 00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:39,418 I don't know who's capable of such a thing, Mr. Vail. 544 00:39:45,425 --> 00:39:47,134 - Thanks. - Sure. 545 00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:50,554 So he claims there was someone else in the room 546 00:39:50,638 --> 00:39:52,806 and that he can't remember. 547 00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:56,727 And you want me to look into this amnesia question 548 00:39:56,811 --> 00:39:59,563 - and see what he actually knows. - Yeah. 549 00:39:59,647 --> 00:40:01,982 What if he knows he did it? 550 00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:06,028 The major causes of amnesia are substance abuse, seizures, 551 00:40:06,112 --> 00:40:08,447 head injuries and malingering. 552 00:40:11,326 --> 00:40:13,911 I think the kid's telling the truth. 553 00:40:15,705 --> 00:40:16,830 Okay. 554 00:40:17,832 --> 00:40:20,084 Then let's get something straight. 555 00:40:20,168 --> 00:40:22,586 I'm more than happy to go in and analyze him. 556 00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:25,005 In fact, I'm looking forward to it. 557 00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:28,425 But I won't go in there to validate his story, understood? 558 00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:32,179 - You do your job, I do mine. - That's right. 559 00:40:32,263 --> 00:40:34,056 Listen, if I think it's necessary, 560 00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:37,810 I'd want to get an MRI, EEG, and neuropsych testing, agreed? 561 00:40:37,894 --> 00:40:40,938 - Yes, Doctor. Good night, Doctor. - Good night. 562 00:40:47,028 --> 00:40:49,363 I'll be recording our meetings for Mr. Vail, 563 00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:52,616 so what we talk about isn't as confidential the way it might be 564 00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:55,410 if you were to be consulting with a doctor for help. 565 00:40:55,495 --> 00:40:56,870 He may even call me as a witness, 566 00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:59,123 so if you have any questions about what I've just said, 567 00:40:59,207 --> 00:41:01,250 you should raise them now, while he's still here. 568 00:41:01,376 --> 00:41:04,545 - No, ma'am. I understand. - Good. 569 00:41:05,672 --> 00:41:09,049 - So, okay. I think we'll be fine. - All right. 570 00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:12,052 - I'll see you later. All right. - Okay. 571 00:41:12,137 --> 00:41:13,220 Bye. 572 00:41:21,187 --> 00:41:23,313 Mr. Vail told me that there was a period of time 573 00:41:23,398 --> 00:41:26,441 surrounding the Archbishop's death that you don't remember. 574 00:41:26,526 --> 00:41:30,821 - Is that right? - Yeah. Yes. I lost the time. 575 00:41:32,282 --> 00:41:34,867 I mean, I blacked out. 576 00:41:36,077 --> 00:41:39,830 - Have you had these blackouts before? - Yes. Yes, I have. 577 00:41:39,914 --> 00:41:43,167 When's the first time you remember them happening? 578 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,048 They started when I was about 12, maybe. 579 00:41:50,133 --> 00:41:52,843 Were your parents aware of what was happening to you? 580 00:41:52,927 --> 00:41:57,556 No. My mother was dead. 581 00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:00,684 And your father? 582 00:42:03,438 --> 00:42:08,358 No. No. No. He was not a nice man. 583 00:42:08,443 --> 00:42:12,196 - Did you seek treatment? - Did I what? 584 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,823 Did you see a doctor for them? 585 00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:19,328 No. No. 586 00:42:19,412 --> 00:42:23,332 You don't go see a doctor in Creekside unless your leg's broke. 587 00:42:32,175 --> 00:42:36,011 - Hey. Can I talk to you? - Talk. 588 00:42:36,095 --> 00:42:40,891 - Excuse us. I'll bring her right back. - How dare you. What am I? 589 00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:43,018 I'm some kind of chess piece you can just move around? 590 00:42:43,102 --> 00:42:47,648 - I was in the middle of my lunch. - When are we getting all the discovery? 591 00:42:47,732 --> 00:42:48,774 What do you want, Marty? 592 00:42:48,858 --> 00:42:50,317 I want to know when we're getting all the discovery. 593 00:42:50,443 --> 00:42:53,403 - I've got motions to file. - No, you don't. 594 00:42:53,488 --> 00:42:55,781 You're looking to make a deal. 595 00:42:57,325 --> 00:42:58,784 I have no authority to deal. 596 00:42:58,868 --> 00:43:01,578 I haven't discussed this with my client. What's your excuse? 597 00:43:01,663 --> 00:43:03,705 Well, if I thought we needed to make a deal, 598 00:43:03,790 --> 00:43:05,207 I have all the authority I want. 599 00:43:05,291 --> 00:43:08,377 Bullshit! Shaughnessy wants the whole shot on this, 600 00:43:08,461 --> 00:43:10,379 and he's using you to get it. 601 00:43:10,463 --> 00:43:12,130 Anybody in your position would deal this down 602 00:43:12,215 --> 00:43:13,340 to murder with no death penalty. 603 00:43:13,424 --> 00:43:17,678 My position? We have a fucking great case. 604 00:43:17,762 --> 00:43:19,554 Great case? 605 00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:23,433 Lack of prior record, no eyewitness, no confession, no motive. 606 00:43:23,518 --> 00:43:25,060 Hard evidence. 607 00:43:26,145 --> 00:43:28,438 I assume this conversation means you're not going with insanity, 608 00:43:28,523 --> 00:43:32,025 which is a shame. My shrinks would have torn him apart. 609 00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:36,697 By the way, your pleading the Fifth on the charges was brilliant. 610 00:43:36,781 --> 00:43:38,407 - It was good, wasn't it? - Yeah. 611 00:43:38,491 --> 00:43:39,866 I liked it. 612 00:43:41,202 --> 00:43:44,705 You lose this case, you take the fall, not Shaughnessy. 613 00:43:46,833 --> 00:43:50,460 - Talk to me. - We're going to trial, Marty. 614 00:43:52,463 --> 00:43:54,339 All right, all it takes is one, 615 00:43:54,424 --> 00:43:57,134 just one juror that doesn't believe he did it. 616 00:43:57,218 --> 00:43:59,845 One juror, with a kid his age, looks into that face... 617 00:43:59,929 --> 00:44:03,056 I've got to admit, that face is great. Are you prepping him to take the stand? 618 00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:05,392 That stutter, it's priceless. 619 00:44:09,063 --> 00:44:12,774 Marty, don't tell me you think he didn't do it. 620 00:44:14,193 --> 00:44:17,362 What, has little Aaron Stampler gotten to you? 621 00:44:17,447 --> 00:44:21,992 We're not just talking about jail here. It's about ending someone's life. 622 00:44:22,076 --> 00:44:23,994 If you're wrong and Shaughnessy's made you do this, 623 00:44:24,078 --> 00:44:27,289 - you gonna be able to live with it? - I'll live. 624 00:44:29,959 --> 00:44:31,626 See you in court. 625 00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:37,466 Your Honor, we stipulate that murder was done here. 626 00:44:37,550 --> 00:44:39,843 Therefore, these photographs have no remaining probative value. 627 00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:42,763 This is not just murder. This is a case of mutilation and torture. 628 00:44:42,847 --> 00:44:46,016 The only reason the prosecution wants to show these gory pictures to the jury 629 00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:47,309 - is shock appeal. - That is not true, Your Honor. 630 00:44:47,393 --> 00:44:49,353 - They should be excluded, absolutely. - They clearly identify 631 00:44:49,437 --> 00:44:50,812 the heinous nature of the crime, 632 00:44:50,897 --> 00:44:52,522 and they connect the defendant, 633 00:44:52,607 --> 00:44:54,733 who was found covered in blood, to the crime scene. 634 00:44:54,817 --> 00:44:56,234 - Prejudicial. - I beg to differ. 635 00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:58,528 - Beg all you want. I don't... - Counsel, please. 636 00:44:58,613 --> 00:45:00,614 The photographs are in, Mr. Vail. 637 00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:01,740 Now, would you two like a recess 638 00:45:01,824 --> 00:45:03,784 so you can carry on this discussion in private? 639 00:45:03,868 --> 00:45:05,744 I'm sorry, Your Honor, but this is too much. 640 00:45:05,828 --> 00:45:07,120 Next thing you know, he'll be objecting 641 00:45:07,205 --> 00:45:09,831 if we want to bring in the murder weapon. 642 00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:14,669 Well, now that she brings it up... 643 00:45:19,467 --> 00:45:21,551 This is a public building. 644 00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:29,643 Excuse me, Mr. Vail. 645 00:45:31,521 --> 00:45:33,647 Would you sign this for me? 646 00:45:37,110 --> 00:45:40,821 Tell me about Linda. Mr. Vail said she was your girlfriend. 647 00:45:41,989 --> 00:45:43,323 Yes. Yes, she was. 648 00:45:43,408 --> 00:45:45,826 How'd you meet? 649 00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:50,580 Well, we was both at the Savior House. I was an altar boy, 650 00:45:50,665 --> 00:45:54,167 and she was doing work for Bishop Rushman. 651 00:45:55,545 --> 00:45:58,672 - What was the relationship like? - Me and Linda? 652 00:46:00,425 --> 00:46:04,261 She's real cultural. Real cultural and very smart. 653 00:46:04,345 --> 00:46:07,097 We had a nice time together. 654 00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:12,436 We might get married. 655 00:46:14,397 --> 00:46:16,523 Were you sleeping together? 656 00:46:20,653 --> 00:46:24,823 - Well, that's private. - I know. I have to ask the question. 657 00:46:24,907 --> 00:46:27,868 Were you having a sexual relationship, Aaron? 658 00:46:30,455 --> 00:46:32,789 Yeah, yes, yes, we were. 659 00:46:32,874 --> 00:46:36,460 Were you sleeping with anyone else at the time? 660 00:46:36,544 --> 00:46:39,379 - No. - Was she? 661 00:46:48,973 --> 00:46:51,308 Has she been to see you, Aaron? 662 00:46:58,941 --> 00:47:01,902 - Well, well, no, but... - And that upsets you. 663 00:47:05,907 --> 00:47:08,742 No. No. Thing is, she went away. 664 00:47:10,912 --> 00:47:12,996 She went away for a while. 665 00:47:13,623 --> 00:47:18,001 She left before this happened. I don't even think... 666 00:47:18,085 --> 00:47:20,629 Don't even think she knows about it. 667 00:47:33,643 --> 00:47:35,018 - Yo, boss. - Hey. 668 00:47:35,102 --> 00:47:37,896 - You got something for me? - Yeah. 669 00:47:37,980 --> 00:47:39,856 There's nothing cataloged at the downtown branch 670 00:47:39,941 --> 00:47:42,067 under the numbers B32156. 671 00:47:42,151 --> 00:47:44,861 But I don't think the "B" is a "B." I think it's an eight. 672 00:47:44,946 --> 00:47:47,989 I think the knife slipped. 832156. 673 00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:51,535 "Thomas Jefferson"? I don't think he did it. 674 00:47:51,619 --> 00:47:54,037 All right. Well, you're not gonna be much happier with this. 675 00:47:54,121 --> 00:47:58,208 A list of the Archbishop's charities and his foundation's investments. 676 00:47:58,292 --> 00:48:01,753 Nothing startling here, except for how many there are. 677 00:48:03,965 --> 00:48:06,508 Wait a minute here. What's this? 678 00:48:06,592 --> 00:48:10,262 What was he doing with the South River deal? Pull that up. 679 00:48:13,140 --> 00:48:15,058 Who are the investors? 680 00:48:17,645 --> 00:48:19,062 Shaughnessy? 681 00:48:20,189 --> 00:48:22,649 That's Joey Pinero's neighborhood. 682 00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:26,152 See this lot here? This all used to be houses. 683 00:48:26,445 --> 00:48:29,739 In fact, there was a house over there on the corner 684 00:48:30,324 --> 00:48:33,994 where I kissed my first girlfriend. Got her pregnant, too. 685 00:48:34,996 --> 00:48:37,080 - Hell of a kiss, Joey. - Oh, yeah. 686 00:48:37,164 --> 00:48:40,083 Anyway, this whole neighborhood's gonna end up high-rent condos 687 00:48:40,167 --> 00:48:42,252 if those guys get their way. 688 00:48:42,336 --> 00:48:45,755 That's why I'm gonna buy back the lot with the settlement you got me. 689 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:46,840 - You heard about that, right? - Yeah. 690 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,092 - The money? - Who hasn't? 691 00:48:49,176 --> 00:48:52,470 - Marty's the best, man. - Just doing my job. 692 00:48:52,555 --> 00:48:54,889 Yeah. A million fucking five, he's just doing his job. 693 00:48:54,974 --> 00:48:58,768 Alderman, Joey tells me a cop came around, 694 00:48:58,853 --> 00:49:00,895 wanted him to set you up. 695 00:49:01,939 --> 00:49:03,440 It's typical. 696 00:49:04,317 --> 00:49:07,235 Can't buy me, so they try and buy a brother. 697 00:49:07,820 --> 00:49:10,196 See, most people assume that this land we're walking on 698 00:49:10,281 --> 00:49:14,659 belongs to the railroad, but it doesn't. It belongs to the church. 699 00:49:15,745 --> 00:49:17,162 The church? 700 00:49:19,498 --> 00:49:22,042 - So that's the Rushman Foundation? - That's right. 701 00:49:22,126 --> 00:49:24,919 Along with a bunch of rich developers. 702 00:49:25,004 --> 00:49:27,797 - Including John Shaughnessy? - Yeah. 703 00:49:27,882 --> 00:49:30,550 Then they got greedy, started buying up all the land 704 00:49:30,635 --> 00:49:33,970 and old buildings around the church property, 705 00:49:34,055 --> 00:49:35,847 then tearing it down. 706 00:49:35,931 --> 00:49:38,141 Our old neighborhood was gonna disappear. 707 00:49:38,225 --> 00:49:39,768 So I went to the Archbishop and I said, 708 00:49:39,852 --> 00:49:43,521 "What are you doing to these people? They're poor. 709 00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:46,816 "They're getting kicked out of their homes, 710 00:49:46,901 --> 00:49:48,234 "and they're Catholic." 711 00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:49,569 Fucking A. 712 00:49:49,654 --> 00:49:52,280 He listened. I couldn't believe it. 713 00:49:53,949 --> 00:49:56,326 He told them to stop developing around the church property. 714 00:49:56,410 --> 00:49:57,410 So the partners are left 715 00:49:57,495 --> 00:50:00,163 holding these empty buildings they can't knock down 716 00:50:00,247 --> 00:50:02,165 - and land they can't build on. - That's right. 717 00:50:02,249 --> 00:50:05,001 Shaughnessy loses millions. 718 00:50:05,086 --> 00:50:07,212 Look, if I need you to, will you testify? 719 00:50:07,296 --> 00:50:10,674 Who, me? Yeah. Easy. 720 00:50:10,758 --> 00:50:13,259 Just change out of this suit, put on a Brooks Brothers 721 00:50:13,344 --> 00:50:15,261 - with loafers and tassels, you bet. - Joey, thank you. 722 00:50:15,346 --> 00:50:16,846 Thank you. Not you. 723 00:50:18,849 --> 00:50:20,016 Sure. 724 00:50:21,268 --> 00:50:22,894 I'll testify. 725 00:50:25,815 --> 00:50:27,691 Well, you know what people think. 726 00:50:27,775 --> 00:50:29,693 Think this great city runs itself. 727 00:50:29,777 --> 00:50:34,698 They think it gets up, goes to work and climbs into bed at night just like we do. 728 00:50:34,782 --> 00:50:35,865 They're unaware of what it takes 729 00:50:35,950 --> 00:50:38,535 to make sure the whole damn thing doesn't break down. 730 00:50:38,619 --> 00:50:41,705 Crime, fires, riots, 731 00:50:41,789 --> 00:50:44,332 the goddamn water pipes bursting under the city. 732 00:50:44,417 --> 00:50:46,876 Christ, what a fucking mess that was. 733 00:50:46,961 --> 00:50:48,670 And who does the water commissioner call? 734 00:50:48,754 --> 00:50:53,133 The contractor who built it? No. He calls me. They all call me. 735 00:50:56,554 --> 00:50:58,680 God damn, this is terrific. 736 00:50:59,515 --> 00:51:03,435 They call me, because I keep the peace. 737 00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:06,312 That's my job. 738 00:51:06,397 --> 00:51:09,441 This city doesn't burn because I won't permit it. 739 00:51:09,525 --> 00:51:12,026 I'm the great negotiator. 740 00:51:12,111 --> 00:51:13,987 You think people get that? 741 00:51:14,071 --> 00:51:17,782 Truth is, they don't care. Dumb bastards don't even vote. 742 00:51:17,867 --> 00:51:20,118 All they want to do is eat, sleep, watch TV 743 00:51:20,202 --> 00:51:22,912 and occasionally fuck their wives. 744 00:51:22,997 --> 00:51:24,914 Guess we should all thank you. 745 00:51:25,875 --> 00:51:27,542 You're welcome. 746 00:51:28,836 --> 00:51:31,504 John, you need some new material. 747 00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:35,008 I've heard this "great city" speech 10 times already. 748 00:51:37,845 --> 00:51:41,598 Your boy Pinero's not honoring his side of the deal. 749 00:51:41,682 --> 00:51:43,266 Is that what this dinner was about? Pinero? 750 00:51:43,350 --> 00:51:44,851 In part. 751 00:51:45,853 --> 00:51:50,106 I told him what the deal is. He's a grownup. What's the other part? 752 00:51:52,193 --> 00:51:53,735 I understand your assistant's been digging around 753 00:51:53,819 --> 00:51:56,696 in the Archbishop's financial affairs. 754 00:51:57,323 --> 00:51:58,907 Yeah. Well... 755 00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:07,290 How much did you lose 756 00:52:07,374 --> 00:52:10,460 when he pulled the plug from South River, John? 757 00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:14,130 Let me tell you something. 758 00:52:14,215 --> 00:52:15,590 It's a mistake to stick your thumb 759 00:52:15,674 --> 00:52:18,134 in the eyes of the most powerful people in the city. 760 00:52:18,219 --> 00:52:20,804 It's not their eyes I'm aiming for. 761 00:52:24,517 --> 00:52:26,935 Do not fuck with me, Marty. 762 00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:43,368 Pipes are bursting again, John. 763 00:53:00,761 --> 00:53:04,097 In the most anticipated murder trial in recent Chicago history, 764 00:53:04,181 --> 00:53:07,308 former State's Attorney prosecutor Martin Vail will lead 765 00:53:07,393 --> 00:53:10,395 with his opening statement on behalf of Aaron Stampler... 766 00:53:10,479 --> 00:53:12,146 The prosecution's case is headed 767 00:53:12,231 --> 00:53:14,732 by Assistant State's Attorney Janet Venable. Venable was... 768 00:53:14,817 --> 00:53:17,652 Richard Rushman was a man of God. 769 00:53:17,736 --> 00:53:21,698 He spent his life giving to the people of Chicago. 770 00:53:21,782 --> 00:53:23,116 He was a beacon of inspiration, 771 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,202 not only as a spiritual leader, but as a citizen. 772 00:53:26,287 --> 00:53:28,705 ...will deliver his opening statement tomorrow on behalf of defendant... 773 00:53:28,789 --> 00:53:30,582 My name is Martin Vail, 774 00:53:30,666 --> 00:53:33,793 and the reason I'm here, and the reason you're here, 775 00:53:33,878 --> 00:53:36,629 is to make sure that the whole truth is known. 776 00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:38,882 Now, we can begin to learn the truth 777 00:53:38,966 --> 00:53:42,051 by talking about what the prosecution does not want you to hear. 778 00:53:42,136 --> 00:53:46,556 Do not be fooled by the defendant's innocent appearance and demeanor. 779 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,935 Aaron Stampler sat in judgment of Archbishop Rushman 780 00:53:51,020 --> 00:53:53,813 and determined that not only should he die, 781 00:53:53,898 --> 00:53:56,232 but he should die the most brutal way possible. 782 00:53:56,317 --> 00:53:58,568 Aaron was arrested within minutes of the Archbishop's death. 783 00:53:58,652 --> 00:54:00,737 We all know that. We all saw it on television. 784 00:54:00,821 --> 00:54:04,407 But why? Because he was convenient. 785 00:54:04,491 --> 00:54:07,410 Because there was enormous pressure on the police to solve this crime. 786 00:54:07,494 --> 00:54:11,915 The evidence will show that Aaron Stampler stalked, ambushed 787 00:54:11,999 --> 00:54:14,250 and savagely murdered this great man. 788 00:54:14,335 --> 00:54:16,169 The prosecution does not want you to hear 789 00:54:16,253 --> 00:54:18,129 about the other altar boys in the church choir 790 00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:20,006 who have mysteriously disappeared. 791 00:54:20,090 --> 00:54:21,716 At the close of evidence, ladies and gentlemen, 792 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,928 you will learn that Aaron Stampler had everything he needed 793 00:54:25,012 --> 00:54:26,679 for the perfect assassination. 794 00:54:26,764 --> 00:54:32,268 Using this knife, Aaron Stampler repeatedly stabbed 795 00:54:32,353 --> 00:54:37,065 at the Archbishop's chest, his genitals, his eyes. 796 00:54:37,149 --> 00:54:40,568 They don't want you to hear that the Archbishop made investments 797 00:54:40,653 --> 00:54:42,654 on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church 798 00:54:42,738 --> 00:54:45,865 and that those investments resulted in huge losses 799 00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:48,076 for some very, very powerful people. 800 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,788 They don't want you to hear about the 20 death threats this year alone 801 00:54:51,872 --> 00:54:54,123 that the Archbishop received prior to his death. 802 00:54:54,208 --> 00:54:58,378 And they really don't want you to hear about their theory of motive. 803 00:54:58,462 --> 00:55:00,713 And why is that? Very simple. 804 00:55:03,175 --> 00:55:05,009 They don't have one. 805 00:55:08,138 --> 00:55:10,890 Inspector Woodside, can you explain to the court 806 00:55:10,975 --> 00:55:12,976 where these sneakers came from? 807 00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:16,479 They were taken off the defendant when he was apprehended. 808 00:55:16,563 --> 00:55:19,649 And what was the result of the bloodstain analysis done on them? 809 00:55:19,733 --> 00:55:22,360 The result of the analysis proved to be human blood 810 00:55:22,444 --> 00:55:24,988 matching the blood type and DNA characteristics 811 00:55:25,072 --> 00:55:26,531 of Archbishop Rushman. 812 00:55:26,615 --> 00:55:29,325 What do the bloody footprints surrounding the body tell you? 813 00:55:29,410 --> 00:55:32,412 The killer left a pattern of bloody footprints 814 00:55:32,496 --> 00:55:34,038 around the area of the struggle, 815 00:55:34,123 --> 00:55:37,000 as indicated by the spread of blood through the room. 816 00:55:37,084 --> 00:55:38,710 All right, yes or no, Inspector? 817 00:55:38,794 --> 00:55:42,255 Could there have been a third person in the Archbishop's quarters that morning? 818 00:55:42,339 --> 00:55:43,923 There is no evidence to suggest that. 819 00:55:44,008 --> 00:55:46,175 But there's no evidence to prove there wasn't. 820 00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:47,343 No. 821 00:55:47,428 --> 00:55:49,512 And after the struggle, what happened then? 822 00:55:49,596 --> 00:55:53,099 Well, analysis suggests that the killer was startled during the mutilation 823 00:55:53,183 --> 00:55:55,643 and ran from the bedroom down the stairs. 824 00:55:55,728 --> 00:56:01,441 Is it possible, Inspector, that the real killer, a third person, 825 00:56:02,151 --> 00:56:03,609 who maybe was smart enough 826 00:56:03,694 --> 00:56:08,031 not to tramp a whole freeway of blood through the whole place here, 827 00:56:08,115 --> 00:56:11,534 couldn't this third person have placed the defendant's prints 828 00:56:11,618 --> 00:56:14,037 on the knife while he was passed out? 829 00:56:14,121 --> 00:56:16,039 Mr. Vail, anything is possible. 830 00:56:16,123 --> 00:56:19,500 So, clearly, the victim suffered a great number of stab wounds? 831 00:56:19,585 --> 00:56:23,379 Yes, he did, 78. He tried to defend himself. 832 00:56:23,464 --> 00:56:26,049 And that explains the cuts on the hands and the forearms. 833 00:56:26,133 --> 00:56:29,135 Doctor, isn't it a fact that you can't be sure 834 00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:35,058 whether more than one person inflicted these 78 stab and incise wounds? 835 00:56:35,142 --> 00:56:37,977 That's true, Counselor. It could've been more than one person, but I doubt it. 836 00:56:38,062 --> 00:56:40,772 From your analysis of the knife wounds, Dr. Weil, 837 00:56:40,856 --> 00:56:44,233 do you have an opinion whether the killer was left-handed or right-handed? 838 00:56:44,318 --> 00:56:47,070 Well, the incise wound to the throat and most of the chest wounds 839 00:56:47,154 --> 00:56:50,364 were made from an angle that strongly suggests that a left-handed person 840 00:56:50,449 --> 00:56:51,532 was using the knife. 841 00:56:51,617 --> 00:56:53,701 To your knowledge, is the defendant left-handed? 842 00:56:53,786 --> 00:56:54,911 Yes, he is. 843 00:56:54,995 --> 00:56:57,246 Well, then it's possible that a right-handed person 844 00:56:57,331 --> 00:57:01,209 could've deliberately used his left hand to inflict some of these wounds. 845 00:57:01,293 --> 00:57:02,710 Yes, I suppose that is possible. 846 00:57:02,795 --> 00:57:05,088 Then it would be reasonable to assume 847 00:57:05,172 --> 00:57:08,633 that there was, in fact, a third person there at the crime scene? 848 00:57:08,717 --> 00:57:11,636 Reasonable, no. But it is possible. 849 00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,471 Then following opening statements, 850 00:57:13,555 --> 00:57:15,473 it was a day of strong and detailed testimony 851 00:57:15,557 --> 00:57:17,600 from the prosecution's first witnesses, 852 00:57:17,684 --> 00:57:20,019 Cook County Forensics Chief Harvey Woodside 853 00:57:20,104 --> 00:57:22,522 and Cook County Medical Examiner Emile Weil. 854 00:57:22,606 --> 00:57:24,690 It was also a day of tough cross-examination 855 00:57:24,775 --> 00:57:25,942 of Woodside and Weil 856 00:57:26,026 --> 00:57:28,111 by Stampler defense attorney Martin Vail. 857 00:57:28,195 --> 00:57:29,654 By most accounts, though, the prosecution... 858 00:57:30,197 --> 00:57:31,906 Captain Stenner, I would like to thank you 859 00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:33,950 for all the time you've given us today, 860 00:57:34,034 --> 00:57:36,327 but, finally, I would like to turn your attention 861 00:57:36,411 --> 00:57:39,789 to the symbol carved into the Archbishop's chest. 862 00:57:39,873 --> 00:57:43,292 Now would you please tell the jury about that, Captain? 863 00:57:43,377 --> 00:57:49,048 Yes. The letter and the numbers B32.156 864 00:57:49,133 --> 00:57:50,925 were carved into the Archbishop's chest. 865 00:57:51,009 --> 00:57:52,552 What you just described, 866 00:57:52,636 --> 00:57:55,263 have you been able to find an identical reference anywhere? 867 00:57:55,347 --> 00:57:56,973 I believe so, yes. 868 00:57:57,057 --> 00:58:02,812 The symbol B32.156 is actually catalog code for a book 869 00:58:02,896 --> 00:58:06,983 discovered in a private reading room located in the church basement. 870 00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:11,946 That particular number, the B32 part, refers to a book, 871 00:58:12,030 --> 00:58:14,991 The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne. 872 00:58:15,075 --> 00:58:20,955 When we opened the book to Page 156, we discovered an underlined passage. 873 00:58:22,749 --> 00:58:26,460 Would you please read this underlined passage to the court? 874 00:58:29,381 --> 00:58:32,341 "No man, for any considerable period, 875 00:58:32,426 --> 00:58:36,429 "can wear one face to himself and another to the multitude 876 00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:40,600 "without finally getting bewildered as to which may be the true." 877 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,060 Thank you. 878 00:58:46,982 --> 00:58:48,941 What does that passage mean to you, Captain? 879 00:58:49,026 --> 00:58:51,903 Objection. He's a policeman, not an English professor. 880 00:58:51,987 --> 00:58:54,739 His interpretation would be speculative and irrelevant. 881 00:58:54,823 --> 00:58:56,616 I didn't hear her ask for an expert opinion. 882 00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:58,784 The witness can answer. 883 00:58:59,912 --> 00:59:02,038 Well, to me, it's simple. 884 00:59:02,122 --> 00:59:05,041 The killer thought that his victim was two-faced, 885 00:59:05,125 --> 00:59:06,584 dishonest in some way. 886 00:59:06,668 --> 00:59:08,502 In your experience, Captain, 887 00:59:08,587 --> 00:59:12,381 do killers ever intentionally leave clues to their motive? 888 00:59:12,466 --> 00:59:14,884 Not often, but it happens. 889 00:59:20,891 --> 00:59:22,141 Thanks. 890 00:59:22,935 --> 00:59:24,977 - Thanks, man. - Yeah, sure. 891 00:59:25,437 --> 00:59:28,022 Did you underline that book? 892 00:59:28,106 --> 00:59:30,691 - Did I what? - Did you underline that book? 893 00:59:30,776 --> 00:59:33,861 - No. No, Mr. Vail. - No? 894 00:59:33,946 --> 00:59:37,615 No. Mr. Vail. I never even opened The Scarlet Letter. 895 00:59:37,699 --> 00:59:40,701 I don't like Hawthorne. 896 00:59:40,786 --> 00:59:43,246 I tried to read that one about the house with the seven somethings 897 00:59:43,330 --> 00:59:46,415 in high school. I couldn't even get past Page 10. 898 00:59:48,168 --> 00:59:52,255 I mean, I weren't the only one using Bishop Rushman's library. 899 00:59:52,631 --> 00:59:55,007 You know what? Everybody borrowed books from Bishop Rushman. 900 00:59:55,092 --> 00:59:56,342 He encouraged it. 901 00:59:56,426 --> 00:59:58,511 His altar boys and staff, everyone was in there. 902 00:59:58,595 --> 00:59:59,887 Guard? 903 01:00:01,848 --> 01:00:03,266 Thanks. 904 01:00:10,357 --> 01:00:12,650 You don't give up, do you? 905 01:00:17,364 --> 01:00:19,991 So you didn't know anything about that? 906 01:00:20,075 --> 01:00:22,326 - No. - What about the impact of... 907 01:00:22,411 --> 01:00:25,121 Look, I can't talk to you right now. My office will call you, all right? 908 01:00:25,205 --> 01:00:27,498 - Yeah. Thanks. - Okay, bye. Yeah, I'll see you. 909 01:00:29,334 --> 01:00:31,252 - Bye. - Bye. 910 01:00:38,385 --> 01:00:40,052 What the fuck happened in there? 911 01:00:41,096 --> 01:00:44,348 I guess that eight was a "B" after all. 912 01:00:45,392 --> 01:00:48,519 You think this is funny? We're losing this case. 913 01:00:49,855 --> 01:00:51,981 What the hell happened, Tommy? How could you have missed that? 914 01:00:52,065 --> 01:00:53,149 Marty, there are 50 of them, 915 01:00:53,233 --> 01:00:54,984 plus the entire Chicago Police Department. 916 01:00:55,068 --> 01:00:57,528 How was I to know he had a private reading room in the church basement? 917 01:00:57,612 --> 01:00:59,363 - It's your job to know. - Fuck, Marty, you want my job? 918 01:00:59,448 --> 01:01:00,948 No. I want you to do your fucking job! 919 01:01:01,033 --> 01:01:02,658 Marty, come on. 920 01:01:03,744 --> 01:01:05,369 I'm working on a third-man defense here. 921 01:01:05,454 --> 01:01:06,996 Do you know that? Have you figured that out yet? 922 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,582 I don't have a third man. You know why I don't have a third man? 923 01:01:09,666 --> 01:01:12,126 'Cause you can't fucking find him! That's why. 924 01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:14,086 Is it that hard to find one indigent kid? 925 01:01:14,171 --> 01:01:17,256 Look, maybe we already got the kid who did this. 926 01:01:17,674 --> 01:01:21,010 We have to at least consider the possibility that he did it. 927 01:01:21,094 --> 01:01:22,553 All the hard evidence is pointing towards him, 928 01:01:22,637 --> 01:01:24,055 and you keep refusing to even look at it. 929 01:01:24,139 --> 01:01:27,975 I'm not refusing to look at anything! I don't think he did it! 930 01:01:28,727 --> 01:01:29,852 Look, you two, 931 01:01:29,936 --> 01:01:31,979 we're up there in a couple of days, and we got dick! 932 01:01:32,064 --> 01:01:34,607 So I wish the two of you'd do your fucking goddamn jobs, all right? 933 01:01:34,691 --> 01:01:36,025 Fuck! 934 01:01:49,623 --> 01:01:52,541 It must have been hard for you to come here to Chicago. 935 01:01:52,626 --> 01:01:54,668 You didn't know anybody. 936 01:01:55,462 --> 01:01:56,962 No. Nobody. 937 01:01:57,714 --> 01:01:59,632 Didn't have any money? 938 01:02:01,134 --> 01:02:02,635 No, nothing. 939 01:02:04,054 --> 01:02:08,641 I want to talk more about your girlfriend, Linda, now. Can we, Aaron? 940 01:02:10,477 --> 01:02:12,520 - No. - Why not? 941 01:02:17,109 --> 01:02:18,275 Aaron. 942 01:02:23,865 --> 01:02:26,534 I'm sorry. 943 01:02:28,787 --> 01:02:31,831 Do you think we can do this later? 944 01:02:31,915 --> 01:02:37,753 - No, I want to stay with this for a minute. - I'm just feeling a little tired. 945 01:02:37,838 --> 01:02:41,340 I know. Why does talking about Linda Forbes upset you? 946 01:02:43,802 --> 01:02:45,219 It doesn't. 947 01:02:46,388 --> 01:02:49,557 I just don't want to talk about it right now. 948 01:02:49,683 --> 01:02:54,728 - Why not? Are you all right? - No, my head hurts. 949 01:02:56,356 --> 01:02:58,983 Okay, okay, I'm sorry. Let me just fix this. 950 01:03:04,531 --> 01:03:06,282 Hey, you know what I can do with this thing? 951 01:03:06,366 --> 01:03:08,742 No, how the fuck should I know? 952 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,539 Jesus Christ. 953 01:03:22,716 --> 01:03:23,883 Aaron? 954 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:34,685 What? 955 01:03:36,396 --> 01:03:38,230 What were you saying? 956 01:03:57,250 --> 01:03:58,792 Come on. 957 01:06:26,608 --> 01:06:27,900 Stop him! 958 01:06:30,654 --> 01:06:32,446 Who the fuck are you? What do you want? 959 01:06:32,530 --> 01:06:33,906 What do you want, God damn it? I'll kill you! 960 01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:36,325 I don't think so, Alex. Drop it. 961 01:06:37,077 --> 01:06:38,327 Drop it. 962 01:06:43,041 --> 01:06:46,251 - Remember me? - My name is Martin Vail. 963 01:06:46,336 --> 01:06:47,670 I don't give a fuck what your name is. 964 01:06:47,754 --> 01:06:50,381 - You got no right doing this to me. - I have every fucking right! 965 01:06:50,465 --> 01:06:53,175 I'm Aaron Stampler's attorney, you little shit! 966 01:06:53,259 --> 01:06:56,929 Now, what do you know about the Archbishop's murder? 967 01:06:59,432 --> 01:07:00,766 Nothing. 968 01:07:00,850 --> 01:07:02,351 Where the fuck do you think you're going? 969 01:07:02,435 --> 01:07:04,645 Bullshit! Don't fuck with us. 970 01:07:05,939 --> 01:07:07,815 I swear I know nothing. 971 01:07:08,817 --> 01:07:10,150 Well, then, what were you doing over there? 972 01:07:10,235 --> 01:07:13,696 What were you doing at Aaron's house? What were you looking for? 973 01:07:13,780 --> 01:07:16,824 - A tape. - A tape? Videotape? 974 01:07:16,908 --> 01:07:18,450 - Yeah. - Of what? 975 01:07:23,164 --> 01:07:24,540 Sex stuff. 976 01:07:25,542 --> 01:07:27,042 Sex stuff? 977 01:07:27,502 --> 01:07:30,003 What, I have to draw a picture for you? 978 01:07:30,088 --> 01:07:31,130 Who? 979 01:07:31,965 --> 01:07:33,048 Who? 980 01:07:34,008 --> 01:07:35,342 Me, Linda. 981 01:07:39,139 --> 01:07:40,222 And Aaron? 982 01:07:40,306 --> 01:07:43,142 Yeah. He shot it, too, for the Archbishop. 983 01:07:44,477 --> 01:07:45,728 Are you telling... 984 01:07:45,812 --> 01:07:50,899 Are you telling me that Archbishop Rushman is involved with sex stuff? 985 01:07:50,984 --> 01:07:53,902 Yeah, he called it "purging the devil." 986 01:07:53,987 --> 01:07:56,155 He'd say a sermon for 10 minutes, and then he'd tell us what to do. 987 01:07:56,239 --> 01:07:59,908 - You're full of shit. - I don't give a fuck what you believe! 988 01:07:59,993 --> 01:08:02,244 Hey, hey, hey. What? What? 989 01:08:02,328 --> 01:08:04,204 What were you going to do with the tape? 990 01:08:04,289 --> 01:08:05,914 - What were you going to do? - Trash it. 991 01:08:05,999 --> 01:08:08,000 I was gonna throw it away. 992 01:08:08,084 --> 01:08:09,918 Just one. One tape. Just one tape. 993 01:08:10,003 --> 01:08:12,838 Yeah. Yeah. One. He'd use the same one. He'd keep recording over and over. 994 01:08:12,922 --> 01:08:14,673 So what made you think Aaron had this? 995 01:08:14,758 --> 01:08:18,260 I don't know. I thought maybe he got it, and he went back and killed him. 996 01:08:18,344 --> 01:08:22,139 - I mean, he did kill him, right? - No, he didn't. 997 01:08:24,017 --> 01:08:26,810 So where's this girl? Where's Linda? 998 01:08:27,395 --> 01:08:28,896 I don't know. 999 01:08:32,150 --> 01:08:34,902 She freaked out! She panicked. She split. 1000 01:08:34,986 --> 01:08:37,529 I don't know. I'm not expecting any postcards. 1001 01:08:43,203 --> 01:08:46,288 Look at me. Look at me. 1002 01:08:56,341 --> 01:08:58,425 Get him the fuck out of here, Tommy. 1003 01:09:00,220 --> 01:09:02,805 - Where to? - A warm bunk and three meals a day. 1004 01:09:02,889 --> 01:09:07,434 - You can't arrest me! You're not a cop! - I used to be. Does that work for you? 1005 01:09:35,004 --> 01:09:37,256 - Look who's here. - Don't get up. Finish it. 1006 01:09:37,340 --> 01:09:39,341 - It's a good article. - You know the rules. 1007 01:09:39,425 --> 01:09:41,677 Don't disturb anything. Don't remove anything. 1008 01:09:41,761 --> 01:09:43,387 If you do, it's my ass. 1009 01:09:43,471 --> 01:09:46,181 Yeah, mine, too. I won't touch anything. 1010 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,534 Excuse me. 1011 01:10:57,545 --> 01:10:59,880 ...preach the gospel to every... 1012 01:11:05,345 --> 01:11:06,511 Hello. 1013 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,432 - What are you guys watching? - Wait a minute. 1014 01:11:10,516 --> 01:11:13,810 Go to her. Good. 1015 01:11:15,104 --> 01:11:20,525 Now help her. That's it, Aaron. Good. 1016 01:11:22,195 --> 01:11:23,779 Linda, help out. 1017 01:11:24,822 --> 01:11:27,866 Good. Take off her blouse, Aaron. 1018 01:11:29,994 --> 01:11:33,538 That's it. Now help him, Linda. 1019 01:11:34,749 --> 01:11:38,710 Isn't that sweet, Linda? Good. That's it. 1020 01:11:40,129 --> 01:11:41,713 Now, take him in your mouth. 1021 01:11:41,798 --> 01:11:44,257 - Here's motive. - Aaron, 1022 01:11:44,717 --> 01:11:46,510 take her from behind. 1023 01:11:47,220 --> 01:11:50,722 - Aaron, take her from behind. - Jesus Christ. 1024 01:11:54,602 --> 01:11:55,811 Thanks. 1025 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,361 487113 report to... 1026 01:12:05,738 --> 01:12:08,073 - I need to talk to him alone. - I think there's something 1027 01:12:08,157 --> 01:12:11,660 - we should discuss. - I need to be alone with my client. 1028 01:12:23,006 --> 01:12:24,589 Do you trust me? 1029 01:12:25,925 --> 01:12:27,050 Do... 1030 01:12:27,427 --> 01:12:29,428 Yes, yes, of course I do. 1031 01:12:29,804 --> 01:12:32,264 Good. Because I don't trust you. 1032 01:12:37,979 --> 01:12:40,105 I'll lay it all out for you. 1033 01:12:43,067 --> 01:12:45,902 I'm losing this case. You know why I'm losing this case? 1034 01:12:45,987 --> 01:12:48,947 'Cause my fucking client is fucking lying to me. 1035 01:12:49,032 --> 01:12:51,700 - I never lied to you. - Bullshit! 1036 01:12:53,411 --> 01:12:55,704 That's it. No more bullshit. No more games. 1037 01:12:57,457 --> 01:12:59,541 Everybody thinks you did this, everybody. 1038 01:12:59,625 --> 01:13:02,044 I'm the only one who believes you, and I am that close. 1039 01:13:02,128 --> 01:13:05,589 So I want it all out. All of it. Right now, right here. 1040 01:13:07,633 --> 01:13:09,801 Did you underline that book? 1041 01:13:10,636 --> 01:13:13,805 Hey, hey. Hey, look at me. Did you underline that book? 1042 01:13:14,140 --> 01:13:17,476 - No, I didn't. - I don't believe you. 1043 01:13:18,186 --> 01:13:19,644 - That is bullshit. - I told... 1044 01:13:19,729 --> 01:13:23,273 I don't fucking believe you! I saw the tape! 1045 01:13:24,984 --> 01:13:28,278 I saw the tape. I know what he did to you. I want to hear it from you. 1046 01:13:28,362 --> 01:13:29,571 No! No! No! 1047 01:13:29,655 --> 01:13:31,573 Tell me the whole thing. Don't fucking do this. 1048 01:13:31,657 --> 01:13:33,784 I want you to tell me the truth, and do not even think of lying. 1049 01:13:33,868 --> 01:13:35,452 You fucking killed him, didn't you? You did it! 1050 01:13:35,536 --> 01:13:36,912 - You killed him. You're so full of shit! - No! 1051 01:13:36,996 --> 01:13:39,372 You did it, didn't you? Tell me the truth. Don't lie to me. 1052 01:13:39,457 --> 01:13:42,084 You little fuck! You did it. You killed him! You son of a bitch! 1053 01:13:42,168 --> 01:13:44,336 - You fucking killed him! - No! 1054 01:13:44,629 --> 01:13:46,505 What the hell do you want from me now? 1055 01:13:46,589 --> 01:13:49,758 Quit your crying! I can't understand a goddamn word you're saying. 1056 01:13:49,842 --> 01:13:52,344 You little sissy! You make me sick! 1057 01:13:56,307 --> 01:13:58,975 - Looky here. Who the fuck are you? - Who the fuck are you? 1058 01:13:59,060 --> 01:14:02,020 This is my cell, Jack! Who the fuck are you? 1059 01:14:05,942 --> 01:14:09,361 I got you now. You're the lawyer. 1060 01:14:11,114 --> 01:14:12,697 - You his lawyer, ain't you? - Yeah. 1061 01:14:12,782 --> 01:14:15,242 Yeah, with your fancy suit. I heard about you. 1062 01:14:15,993 --> 01:14:19,371 Well, my, my, you sure fucked this one up, Counselor. 1063 01:14:19,789 --> 01:14:22,124 It sounds to me like they're gonna shoot old Aaron so full of poison 1064 01:14:22,208 --> 01:14:24,417 it's gonna come out his eyes! 1065 01:14:25,336 --> 01:14:27,129 - Where is Aaron? - Aaron's crying off 1066 01:14:27,213 --> 01:14:29,339 in some corner somewhere. You scared him off! 1067 01:14:29,423 --> 01:14:31,800 You've got to deal with me now, boy. 1068 01:14:31,884 --> 01:14:34,886 I ought to give you a beating on principle. Look at me. 1069 01:14:35,513 --> 01:14:38,223 You ever come in here and pull any of that tough-guy shit on Aaron again, 1070 01:14:38,307 --> 01:14:40,225 I will kick your fucking ass to Sunday! 1071 01:14:40,309 --> 01:14:43,687 - Do you understand me? - I understand you. I understand. 1072 01:14:43,771 --> 01:14:47,107 Aaron gets in trouble, he calls you. You're the man. 1073 01:14:47,525 --> 01:14:49,609 Well, Aaron couldn't kick his own ass. 1074 01:14:49,694 --> 01:14:52,404 I mean, you seen him, with the... 1075 01:14:53,072 --> 01:14:54,156 Yeah. 1076 01:14:54,907 --> 01:14:57,159 Jesus Christ, he can't handle anything. 1077 01:14:57,243 --> 01:15:00,829 He sure as shit couldn't handle all that preacher's blood, could he? 1078 01:15:00,913 --> 01:15:03,582 If he'd done like I told him, we wouldn't be in this mess, 1079 01:15:03,666 --> 01:15:05,750 but he got scared, and... 1080 01:15:06,544 --> 01:15:10,005 Ran off, got hisself caught, the stupid little shit. 1081 01:15:10,089 --> 01:15:13,091 So Aaron did kill Rushman. 1082 01:15:13,634 --> 01:15:16,136 Hell, no! Jesus Christ, where did they find you? 1083 01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:20,265 Ain't you been listening to me? Aaron don't have the guts to do nothing. 1084 01:15:21,726 --> 01:15:23,268 It was me, boy. 1085 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:25,562 - It was me. - It was you. 1086 01:15:25,646 --> 01:15:28,732 - It was you. It was you. - Yes, it was. 1087 01:15:28,816 --> 01:15:32,861 He come crying to me like always, stuttering and whining. 1088 01:15:33,196 --> 01:15:37,324 "I can't take it no more, Roy. You got to help me. 1089 01:15:37,408 --> 01:15:39,284 "Please, please, Roy." 1090 01:15:39,911 --> 01:15:41,828 I said, "Shut your mouth, you little girl! 1091 01:15:41,913 --> 01:15:43,413 "Grow up. Be a man. Take care of yourself." 1092 01:15:43,497 --> 01:15:45,081 - Be a man, yeah. - Know what I'm saying? 1093 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,670 So your name is Roy? 1094 01:15:51,672 --> 01:15:54,674 Oh, Jesus, I'm sorry. Yeah. What is it? Marty? 1095 01:15:54,967 --> 01:15:56,051 - Yeah. - Hey, listen, Marty. 1096 01:15:56,135 --> 01:15:58,303 I'm dying for a smoke. Do you have a cigarette on you? 1097 01:15:58,387 --> 01:16:01,389 - No, I quit. - Fuck that. 1098 01:16:02,475 --> 01:16:05,060 I can't live without them. There's got to be a butt around here somewhere. 1099 01:16:05,144 --> 01:16:06,228 Roy. 1100 01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:10,565 Roy, tell me about Linda. 1101 01:16:12,818 --> 01:16:14,402 - Linda? - Linda, yeah. 1102 01:16:14,487 --> 01:16:15,820 Well, who the fuck cares about Linda? 1103 01:16:15,905 --> 01:16:18,573 Well, I care about Linda. I'd like to know about Linda. 1104 01:16:18,658 --> 01:16:20,033 That little tramp. Let me tell you something. 1105 01:16:20,117 --> 01:16:22,577 Everybody had a piece of her, you know what I'm saying? 1106 01:16:22,662 --> 01:16:24,371 I mean, she had Aaron wrapped up so tight, 1107 01:16:24,455 --> 01:16:25,914 he actually thought she was his girlfriend. 1108 01:16:25,998 --> 01:16:28,667 It was pathetic. She broke his heart. 1109 01:16:29,001 --> 01:16:34,047 So that's why you had to kill Rushman, because of the sex stuff. 1110 01:16:36,842 --> 01:16:38,677 You've seen the tape. 1111 01:16:40,846 --> 01:16:43,098 Answer me, you son of a bitch! 1112 01:16:44,016 --> 01:16:48,353 Do you think I'm playing with you? I will break your fucking neck! 1113 01:16:49,563 --> 01:16:51,231 I'm going to ask you again. Have you seen that tape? 1114 01:16:51,315 --> 01:16:52,774 I saw the tape. Yeah, of course I saw the tape. 1115 01:16:52,858 --> 01:16:55,694 God damn it, God damn it. I told him to get that tape. 1116 01:16:55,820 --> 01:16:58,154 I said, "Get the fucking tape. It's motive, you asshole!" 1117 01:16:58,239 --> 01:16:59,864 This is going to fuck everything up, Marty. 1118 01:16:59,949 --> 01:17:01,783 Don't you show that to a goddamn person! 1119 01:17:01,867 --> 01:17:02,993 - Do you understand me? - Yes. Yes. 1120 01:17:03,077 --> 01:17:04,411 - Do you understand me? - Yes. Shit. 1121 01:17:04,704 --> 01:17:06,162 - Aaron. - Damn! 1122 01:17:51,751 --> 01:17:53,168 Mr. Vail? 1123 01:17:59,842 --> 01:18:01,968 Yeah, I'm right here, Aaron. 1124 01:18:26,786 --> 01:18:29,454 He did it. The little fuck did it. 1125 01:18:32,625 --> 01:18:34,626 How could I have missed that? 1126 01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:36,961 - Do I need stitches? - No. 1127 01:18:40,424 --> 01:18:44,260 He didn't do it. Aaron has no idea what just happened in there. 1128 01:18:44,929 --> 01:18:47,389 I kept seeing all the signs, the big ones. 1129 01:18:47,473 --> 01:18:50,141 The abusive background, these repeated blackouts, 1130 01:18:50,226 --> 01:18:51,476 the ellipses in thought. 1131 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,144 He's ambidextrous. That's what I was trying to tell you 1132 01:18:53,229 --> 01:18:54,396 when you came in tonight. 1133 01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:59,818 Look, you may be thrilled by all this, but I'm fucked. I don't have a case. 1134 01:19:00,569 --> 01:19:03,446 It's textbook multiple personality disorder. 1135 01:19:03,531 --> 01:19:05,407 Put me on the stand. I'll testify. 1136 01:19:06,075 --> 01:19:07,492 He's insane. 1137 01:19:08,536 --> 01:19:13,415 I can't. I can't change plea in the middle of a trial. 1138 01:19:14,542 --> 01:19:16,251 The judge would never allow it. 1139 01:19:16,335 --> 01:19:19,504 Besides, insanity is the hardest thing to prove. 1140 01:19:20,423 --> 01:19:21,548 Okay. 1141 01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:25,260 My professional opinion? 1142 01:19:26,429 --> 01:19:29,514 This is not a criminal we're dealing with. It's a sick kid. 1143 01:19:29,598 --> 01:19:33,143 He's sitting in a cell, and it's not where he belongs. 1144 01:19:39,859 --> 01:19:41,568 You got an aspirin? 1145 01:20:40,294 --> 01:20:42,420 Come on, Connerman, ask it. 1146 01:20:43,506 --> 01:20:44,756 Ask what? 1147 01:20:47,092 --> 01:20:49,844 The question you wanted to ask me before. 1148 01:20:50,930 --> 01:20:53,097 I don't understand, Mr. Vail. 1149 01:20:53,265 --> 01:20:56,518 "How can you defend someone if you know they did it? 1150 01:20:56,602 --> 01:20:57,685 "How can you do that? 1151 01:20:57,770 --> 01:20:59,854 "How can you fucking defend these fucking scumbags?" 1152 01:20:59,939 --> 01:21:02,482 Isn鈥檛 that what you wanted to ask me? It is, isn't it? 1153 01:21:02,566 --> 01:21:04,901 All those fucking coy questions, all that bullshit. 1154 01:21:04,985 --> 01:21:07,946 Bottom line is, "How can you do what you do?" 1155 01:21:13,869 --> 01:21:16,412 You think it's the money, don't you? 1156 01:21:18,999 --> 01:21:22,877 The money's nice. The money's very, very nice, Jack. 1157 01:21:23,837 --> 01:21:26,589 You know, the first thing I ask a new client is, 1158 01:21:27,883 --> 01:21:30,051 "You been saving up for a rainy day? 1159 01:21:30,135 --> 01:21:33,805 "Guess what? It's raining." 1160 01:21:35,975 --> 01:21:39,978 You think it's because I want to see my face on the cover of magazines? 1161 01:21:40,771 --> 01:21:45,775 My 15 seconds on TV? I love it. I fucking love that shit. I really do, 1162 01:21:47,278 --> 01:21:48,820 but guess what. 1163 01:21:49,655 --> 01:21:51,072 It's not it. 1164 01:21:55,035 --> 01:21:57,161 - You go to Las Vegas? - Yeah. 1165 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,416 I don't go to Vegas. Why do you think I don't go to Vegas? 1166 01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:04,127 Marty, it's late. I think that we should both just get up and go... 1167 01:22:04,211 --> 01:22:08,047 Why gamble with money when you can gamble with people's lives? 1168 01:22:11,343 --> 01:22:12,969 That was a joke. 1169 01:22:16,015 --> 01:22:18,016 All right, I'll tell you. 1170 01:22:23,522 --> 01:22:27,775 I believe in the notion that people are innocent until proven guilty. 1171 01:22:28,694 --> 01:22:31,988 I believe in that notion because I choose to believe 1172 01:22:32,406 --> 01:22:34,741 in the basic goodness of people. 1173 01:22:36,035 --> 01:22:40,204 I choose to believe that not all crimes are committed by bad people, 1174 01:22:41,165 --> 01:22:43,041 and I try to understand 1175 01:22:44,251 --> 01:22:47,712 that some very, very good people do some very bad things. 1176 01:23:04,188 --> 01:23:07,065 You know, when I was working for Shaughnessy, 1177 01:23:07,816 --> 01:23:10,109 I did something very, very bad. Maybe 1178 01:23:11,362 --> 01:23:15,198 illegal. I was a prosecutor then. 1179 01:23:16,033 --> 01:23:20,828 This thing that I did, I was very upset by it, and I decided to leave. 1180 01:23:20,913 --> 01:23:24,916 So I left. I became a defending attorney. 1181 01:23:25,250 --> 01:23:28,795 The irony being that everyone assumes I'm fucking lying anyhow. 1182 01:23:29,380 --> 01:23:32,173 So I made myself this little promise that 1183 01:23:35,386 --> 01:23:38,930 I would reserve my lies for other than my public life. 1184 01:23:51,610 --> 01:23:54,779 You print any of this, I'll sue your fucking ass. 1185 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,224 All right, all right, so I made a little mistake. 1186 01:24:23,308 --> 01:24:24,809 No shit. 1187 01:24:25,686 --> 01:24:29,063 What do you want? Want a new suit? I'll buy you a new suit. 1188 01:24:29,148 --> 01:24:32,817 You made a mistake? You told us the third man did it. 1189 01:24:32,901 --> 01:24:36,070 So now you got your third man and a fourth man and a fifth man... 1190 01:24:36,155 --> 01:24:38,489 What are you going to do, Marty? 1191 01:24:38,782 --> 01:24:41,451 I don't know. I really fucked up here. 1192 01:24:42,578 --> 01:24:44,120 You were right. 1193 01:24:44,663 --> 01:24:47,081 So how are you gonna get him off? 1194 01:24:48,208 --> 01:24:50,251 I don't know. 1195 01:24:51,044 --> 01:24:54,338 What I know is, Aaron did not commit first-degree murder. 1196 01:24:54,423 --> 01:24:57,425 - Marty, he stabbed him a billion times... - No, not Aaron. 1197 01:24:58,302 --> 01:25:02,346 To convict someone of a capital crime, the State must prove intent. 1198 01:25:03,265 --> 01:25:04,766 Roy had intent, Aaron didn't. 1199 01:25:04,850 --> 01:25:07,226 Yeah, but the only way to prove that is to change the plea to insanity, 1200 01:25:07,311 --> 01:25:10,605 which we can't do mid-trial, unless you're planning on a career change. 1201 01:25:10,689 --> 01:25:13,441 I could've been mistaken, but I wasn't wrong. 1202 01:25:13,525 --> 01:25:16,986 Aaron is innocent. It's Roy who is guilty. 1203 01:25:17,154 --> 01:25:19,113 This kid doesn't need a lawyer. He needs an exorcist. 1204 01:25:19,198 --> 01:25:22,450 Tom, you are so full of shit. You were not there, and you didn't see it. 1205 01:25:22,534 --> 01:25:26,078 He's one sick motherfucking boy, man, who's been fucked around his whole life 1206 01:25:26,163 --> 01:25:28,998 by his father, by his priest. This kid does not deserve to die, 1207 01:25:29,082 --> 01:25:32,835 and it's our job to make sure that a jury believes he doesn't deserve to die. 1208 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,213 - Okay. - Okay. How do we do it? 1209 01:25:37,216 --> 01:25:40,218 By somehow introducing this whole abuse thing. 1210 01:25:46,892 --> 01:25:48,851 - The tape. - What about the tape? 1211 01:25:48,936 --> 01:25:51,479 That's crazy. That gives him motive. 1212 01:25:51,563 --> 01:25:54,065 No, it looks like that, but it's... 1213 01:25:54,608 --> 01:25:58,653 No, actually, what it does is, it turns this whole thing around. 1214 01:25:58,737 --> 01:26:03,074 It gives concrete documentation of what Rushman did to this kid. 1215 01:26:03,158 --> 01:26:05,743 But we can't put it in. You know that. 1216 01:26:07,246 --> 01:26:09,121 But we're not going to. 1217 01:26:16,129 --> 01:26:17,922 Oh, fuck! 1218 01:26:25,806 --> 01:26:28,766 - Okay. Okay. - Good. 1219 01:27:03,969 --> 01:27:05,553 - Yeah. - What the hell are you doing? 1220 01:27:05,637 --> 01:27:07,889 - Who is this? - You know damn well who it is. 1221 01:27:07,973 --> 01:27:10,308 - Barleycorn's, Marty. Now. - Janet? 1222 01:27:11,184 --> 01:27:13,686 Cute porno. Part of your collection? 1223 01:27:27,451 --> 01:27:28,492 Hey. 1224 01:27:30,621 --> 01:27:33,080 Where did you get it? You steal it 1225 01:27:33,165 --> 01:27:35,291 - from the crime scene? - I don't know anything about this tape. 1226 01:27:35,375 --> 01:27:37,251 - You are such a liar. - Think about it. 1227 01:27:37,336 --> 01:27:39,086 - I have. - Look, if this tape really has on it 1228 01:27:39,171 --> 01:27:40,171 what you say it does, 1229 01:27:40,255 --> 01:27:41,923 last thing I'd do is give it to you. It gives you motive. 1230 01:27:42,007 --> 01:27:43,841 - You had to give it to me. - Why? 1231 01:27:43,926 --> 01:27:46,344 You couldn't introduce it in court. The jury would despise you for it, 1232 01:27:46,428 --> 01:27:48,137 for dishonoring the Bishop's memory. 1233 01:27:48,221 --> 01:27:52,642 But if you get me to show it, motive or no motive, I'm the one who looks bad, 1234 01:27:52,726 --> 01:27:56,270 and you gain sympathy for your poor little abused boy. 1235 01:27:57,856 --> 01:28:00,191 - You think so? - I hate you. 1236 01:28:02,819 --> 01:28:04,278 Don't use it. 1237 01:28:06,198 --> 01:28:08,532 I have no intention of using it. 1238 01:28:10,702 --> 01:28:12,870 - The usual, Stu. - You got it. 1239 01:28:19,211 --> 01:28:20,962 You're up to even more than that, aren't you? 1240 01:28:21,046 --> 01:28:22,338 I'm not up to anything. 1241 01:28:22,422 --> 01:28:24,632 You're opening a door, you think I'm going to walk through it? 1242 01:28:24,716 --> 01:28:26,676 There's going to be a tiger on the other end, and I don't... 1243 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,302 You know who'd be really upset if you used it? 1244 01:28:28,387 --> 01:28:29,804 - I just told you... - Shaughnessy. 1245 01:28:29,888 --> 01:28:31,722 - Fuck him. - Fuck him? 1246 01:28:31,807 --> 01:28:33,057 Fuck you. 1247 01:28:37,229 --> 01:28:38,688 Thanks a lot. 1248 01:28:41,692 --> 01:28:44,235 All right, if this is not your motive, what is? 1249 01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:45,903 I have motive. 1250 01:28:46,363 --> 01:28:47,989 Yeah, what is it? 1251 01:28:49,574 --> 01:28:51,575 I'm really gonna tell you. 1252 01:28:52,452 --> 01:28:55,037 Well, you better tell the jury pretty soon. Time's running out. 1253 01:28:55,122 --> 01:28:56,539 Here you go. 1254 01:28:59,084 --> 01:29:01,293 You think you've got me. 1255 01:29:03,380 --> 01:29:08,801 You think because you know me as well as you do, you know how I think. 1256 01:29:09,761 --> 01:29:12,263 Well, I know how you think. 1257 01:29:18,186 --> 01:29:20,271 You know what I'm thinking? 1258 01:29:26,153 --> 01:29:28,279 What happened to your face? 1259 01:29:30,699 --> 01:29:33,117 I bumped it into a medicine cabinet. 1260 01:29:38,081 --> 01:29:40,916 No, Marty, that was a girl on her way out. 1261 01:29:47,007 --> 01:29:49,050 Maybe we should come back here later. 1262 01:29:49,134 --> 01:29:50,760 Later? Well, they close in 10 minutes. 1263 01:29:50,844 --> 01:29:52,178 No, after. 1264 01:29:53,138 --> 01:29:54,764 After the trial. 1265 01:29:56,475 --> 01:29:58,601 When we've got nothing to lose. 1266 01:30:02,647 --> 01:30:05,775 How can your timing be so good in a courtroom 1267 01:30:05,859 --> 01:30:08,360 and so bad in real life? 1268 01:30:11,406 --> 01:30:14,992 I'll think about it later. I hate you too much right now. 1269 01:30:27,214 --> 01:30:28,464 You got a visitor. 1270 01:30:30,217 --> 01:30:31,634 Here she comes. 1271 01:30:34,137 --> 01:30:35,846 - Talk to you later. - Okay. 1272 01:30:36,932 --> 01:30:37,932 Janet. 1273 01:30:39,017 --> 01:30:40,184 Morning. 1274 01:30:44,689 --> 01:30:46,190 So where's the tape? 1275 01:30:47,192 --> 01:30:49,360 There's some pretty ugly stuff on that tape. 1276 01:30:50,028 --> 01:30:53,197 - Yes, there is. - Who would've thought? 1277 01:30:55,367 --> 01:30:59,161 - Where did it come from? - Landed on my front door last night. 1278 01:30:59,246 --> 01:31:00,663 - No note. - Vail? 1279 01:31:01,164 --> 01:31:03,374 - Who else? - Clever prick. 1280 01:31:04,668 --> 01:31:06,502 What do you think he's up to? 1281 01:31:07,295 --> 01:31:09,171 - I honestly don't know. - Cut the crap, Janet. 1282 01:31:09,256 --> 01:31:12,424 You know him pretty goddamn well. You were balling him, for Christ's sake. 1283 01:31:14,553 --> 01:31:16,679 - Where is it? - At home. 1284 01:31:19,891 --> 01:31:22,143 I have some advice for you. 1285 01:31:22,561 --> 01:31:26,522 My advice for you, if you really have aspirations beyond this particular office, 1286 01:31:26,606 --> 01:31:30,401 is to pick up that little handbag of yours, go home right now and destroy this tape 1287 01:31:30,485 --> 01:31:33,320 you should've destroyed, like I did, the minute you received it. 1288 01:31:34,990 --> 01:31:36,740 You don't think Vail has a copy? 1289 01:31:37,284 --> 01:31:39,493 You don't think there's an original? 1290 01:31:43,415 --> 01:31:46,375 It's Stampler that's on trial, not the Catholic Church, 1291 01:31:46,501 --> 01:31:49,920 and if you haven't found another motive to hang him on, then God help you. 1292 01:32:01,308 --> 01:32:02,641 All rise. 1293 01:32:05,020 --> 01:32:06,520 Please, sit down. 1294 01:32:11,776 --> 01:32:12,902 Madam Prosecutor. 1295 01:32:19,784 --> 01:32:20,993 Miss Venable. 1296 01:32:22,954 --> 01:32:24,622 The State calls Thomas Goodman. 1297 01:32:26,541 --> 01:32:27,791 Objection, Your Honor. 1298 01:32:27,876 --> 01:32:29,043 Prosecution knows full well 1299 01:32:29,127 --> 01:32:31,754 that Mr. Goodman is my investigator in this case, 1300 01:32:31,838 --> 01:32:35,007 and under the Work Product Rule, he can't be compelled to testify. 1301 01:32:35,091 --> 01:32:36,550 Permission to approach the bench, Your Honor? 1302 01:32:36,635 --> 01:32:37,885 Granted. 1303 01:32:44,601 --> 01:32:46,644 Important evidence has just come into my possession 1304 01:32:46,728 --> 01:32:48,646 which I believe this witness can authenticate. 1305 01:32:48,730 --> 01:32:52,149 That's Mr. Vail's privilege. If Mr. Vail doesn't want Mr. Goodman to testify, 1306 01:32:52,234 --> 01:32:54,068 Mr. Goodman doesn't testify. 1307 01:32:54,152 --> 01:32:55,819 Make a decision, Mr. Vail. 1308 01:32:59,699 --> 01:33:02,159 Mr. Goodman, have you ever been to my apartment? 1309 01:33:02,410 --> 01:33:04,954 - No. - By that I mean my apartment building. 1310 01:33:05,830 --> 01:33:06,914 Allegedly. 1311 01:33:06,998 --> 01:33:09,583 I'm sorry, you're confused. Either you have or you haven't. 1312 01:33:09,668 --> 01:33:11,669 "Allegedly" doesn't figure into it. 1313 01:33:12,087 --> 01:33:15,589 I have been there, yes. 1314 01:33:15,674 --> 01:33:19,343 - Why did you go there? - I was delivering something. 1315 01:33:19,427 --> 01:33:20,636 For whom? 1316 01:33:23,181 --> 01:33:24,348 Martin Vail. 1317 01:33:24,849 --> 01:33:28,894 Mr. Vail sent you to deliver something to me. 1318 01:33:28,979 --> 01:33:30,688 - Yes. - What was it? 1319 01:33:33,108 --> 01:33:34,275 A videotape. 1320 01:33:34,359 --> 01:33:37,486 Could this have been the tape you delivered for Mr. Vail? 1321 01:33:37,570 --> 01:33:39,655 I have a feeling it is, yes. 1322 01:33:39,739 --> 01:33:41,949 The People place this half-inch videocassette tape 1323 01:33:42,033 --> 01:33:44,785 - in evidence, Your Honor. - So ordered. Bailiff, please index. 1324 01:33:44,869 --> 01:33:49,039 Now, where did Mr. Vail get this tape, if it is indeed the same one? 1325 01:33:49,124 --> 01:33:53,335 He took it from the closet of Archbishop Rushman. 1326 01:33:53,420 --> 01:33:55,170 - He stole it. - No, no, he borrowed it. 1327 01:33:55,255 --> 01:33:58,132 Once I made the transfer for him, I returned it, so... 1328 01:33:59,009 --> 01:34:01,760 Can you describe for me what's on this tape? 1329 01:34:01,845 --> 01:34:04,847 There was a sermon by Archbishop Rushman on it, 1330 01:34:04,931 --> 01:34:08,350 a rehearsal of a sermon, I should say, followed by 1331 01:34:11,521 --> 01:34:15,149 - a kind of home movie. - A home movie? Of what? 1332 01:34:15,525 --> 01:34:17,401 - Some altar boys. - And? 1333 01:34:18,570 --> 01:34:20,571 - A girl. - Doing what? 1334 01:34:22,991 --> 01:34:25,534 An altar-boy lesson of some kind? 1335 01:34:27,871 --> 01:34:29,538 Having sex. 1336 01:34:31,416 --> 01:34:32,499 Quiet. 1337 01:34:33,043 --> 01:34:34,501 A porno movie. 1338 01:34:35,128 --> 01:34:38,005 - Yes. - Yes. Now. 1339 01:34:38,089 --> 01:34:43,010 How is it, do you think, that this tape, this porno tape, 1340 01:34:43,094 --> 01:34:47,222 was in the Archbishop's closet in order for Mr. Vail to find it there? 1341 01:34:47,307 --> 01:34:51,352 - He was the... The director. - Who was? 1342 01:34:51,436 --> 01:34:54,438 - Archbishop Rushman. - Quiet in the court! 1343 01:34:56,900 --> 01:34:59,902 And was the defendant one of the altar boys 1344 01:34:59,986 --> 01:35:02,780 performing in the Archbishop's home movie? 1345 01:35:03,782 --> 01:35:06,241 - Yes, he was. - Was his girlfriend? 1346 01:35:06,326 --> 01:35:08,577 I believe her name is Linda Forbes. 1347 01:35:09,287 --> 01:35:10,788 Yes, she was. 1348 01:35:11,039 --> 01:35:14,750 And did it appear to you that the defendant was enjoying 1349 01:35:14,834 --> 01:35:17,669 performing in this film with his girlfriend? 1350 01:35:17,754 --> 01:35:19,880 No, he does not. 1351 01:35:20,465 --> 01:35:22,257 I will not ask you, Mr. Goodman, 1352 01:35:22,342 --> 01:35:25,219 if you think we have just uncovered motive here. 1353 01:35:25,303 --> 01:35:28,806 We will decide that for ourselves once we've all seen the videotape. 1354 01:35:30,141 --> 01:35:31,600 No further questions. 1355 01:35:34,145 --> 01:35:36,271 Does Defense wish to cross? 1356 01:35:39,859 --> 01:35:42,861 - No, Your Honor. - Court's in recess. 1357 01:35:42,987 --> 01:35:46,407 Bailiff, please set up for the tape. Mr. Goodman, you're excused. 1358 01:35:50,995 --> 01:35:52,830 Thanks for the advice. 1359 01:35:58,586 --> 01:36:02,548 - Mr. Vail said she was your girlfriend. - Yes. Yes, she was. 1360 01:36:02,632 --> 01:36:06,009 - How'd you meet? - We was both at the Savior House. 1361 01:36:07,804 --> 01:36:10,180 I was an altar boy, 1362 01:36:10,265 --> 01:36:15,686 and she was working for Bishop Rushman. 1363 01:36:15,895 --> 01:36:16,937 Doing what? 1364 01:36:23,403 --> 01:36:25,863 Were you sleeping with anyone else at the time? 1365 01:36:26,865 --> 01:36:29,575 - No. - Was she? 1366 01:36:31,369 --> 01:36:33,370 No. 1367 01:36:35,707 --> 01:36:37,541 Has she been to see you, Aaron? 1368 01:36:38,501 --> 01:36:42,254 - Yeah? No, I'm still here. - No. 1369 01:36:44,382 --> 01:36:46,717 - What? - Does that upset you? 1370 01:37:08,990 --> 01:37:10,407 Okay. 1371 01:37:29,677 --> 01:37:33,138 Mr. Vail, are you prepared to proceed with your first witness? 1372 01:37:45,944 --> 01:37:49,071 Yes, Your Honor. The Defense calls John Shaughnessy. 1373 01:37:54,619 --> 01:37:56,036 The People object, Your Honor. 1374 01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,121 Mr. Shaughnessy has never been identified as a possible witness. 1375 01:37:58,206 --> 01:37:59,998 - Your Honor, may I approach? - Yes, you may. 1376 01:38:00,083 --> 01:38:01,458 Thank you. 1377 01:38:05,046 --> 01:38:08,215 My client is on trial for his life, here. He's always maintained that there was 1378 01:38:08,299 --> 01:38:10,968 - someone else in that bedroom. - And you think Mr. Shaughnessy 1379 01:38:11,052 --> 01:38:12,344 can somehow confirm that? 1380 01:38:12,428 --> 01:38:14,388 Your Honor, the Constitution of the United States 1381 01:38:14,472 --> 01:38:15,889 takes precedence here, 1382 01:38:15,974 --> 01:38:19,059 permitting the calling of any witness to promulgate evidence of innocence. 1383 01:38:19,143 --> 01:38:21,520 That's clearly stated in the Sixth Amendment. 1384 01:38:21,604 --> 01:38:23,939 It's also profound in Brady vs. Maryland. 1385 01:38:26,067 --> 01:38:28,485 Mr. Shaughnessy, do you serve on the board 1386 01:38:28,570 --> 01:38:31,446 of an organization known as the Rushman Foundation? 1387 01:38:31,531 --> 01:38:33,657 I have the privilege to be an honorary board member. 1388 01:38:33,741 --> 01:38:36,827 Could you briefly explain the nature and purpose of this foundation? 1389 01:38:36,911 --> 01:38:39,788 The Rushman Foundation was founded by the late archbishop. 1390 01:38:39,872 --> 01:38:44,251 Its purpose is to invest in projects for the greater good of the community. 1391 01:38:44,335 --> 01:38:46,670 The greater good of the community, okay. 1392 01:38:47,171 --> 01:38:51,633 Now, would that be true in the case of the now bankrupt 1393 01:38:51,718 --> 01:38:54,761 - South River Housing Development? - Yes. 1394 01:38:54,846 --> 01:38:59,141 Could you tell the court why the South River project was abandoned? 1395 01:38:59,267 --> 01:39:02,352 There was a difference of opinion as to the costs. 1396 01:39:02,437 --> 01:39:05,063 Wasn't there also a difference of opinion 1397 01:39:05,148 --> 01:39:08,442 between the investors and the late archbishop himself? 1398 01:39:08,526 --> 01:39:11,528 - I don't recall. - Well... 1399 01:39:12,864 --> 01:39:15,532 What kind of money are we talking about here? I mean... 1400 01:39:18,494 --> 01:39:20,871 How much money, Mr. Shaughnessy, 1401 01:39:20,955 --> 01:39:25,834 was invested in this failed South River enterprise? 1402 01:39:29,130 --> 01:39:32,299 - $60 million. - Quiet. 1403 01:39:32,383 --> 01:39:34,760 $60 million! 1404 01:39:36,304 --> 01:39:38,263 Wow, that's a lot of money. 1405 01:39:39,682 --> 01:39:42,643 You and the Archbishop have been friends for, what, 20 years? 1406 01:39:42,727 --> 01:39:45,145 I think it's safe to say the two of you knew each other really well. 1407 01:39:45,229 --> 01:39:46,229 That's right. 1408 01:39:46,314 --> 01:39:48,106 Were you surprised at the content of that tape 1409 01:39:48,191 --> 01:39:50,150 - that Miss Venable submitted? - Yes, of course I was. 1410 01:39:50,234 --> 01:39:52,152 So you've never heard any allegations, 1411 01:39:52,236 --> 01:39:54,321 charges against the Archbishop during that time? 1412 01:39:54,405 --> 01:39:55,864 Not that I recall, no. 1413 01:39:55,948 --> 01:39:59,326 No, especially since you were the State's Attorney for the last 15 years, 1414 01:39:59,410 --> 01:40:02,663 it'd be fair to say that you've supervised all the prosecutions 1415 01:40:02,747 --> 01:40:04,289 in Cook County during that time, 1416 01:40:04,374 --> 01:40:07,334 especially the prosecutions of all the prominent figures. 1417 01:40:07,418 --> 01:40:10,629 I also have a staff of 1,000 of the best prosecutors... 1418 01:40:10,713 --> 01:40:15,717 Yeah, yeah, but as State's Attorney, it was up to you, ultimately, to decide 1419 01:40:15,802 --> 01:40:17,344 who would be indicted and who wouldn't. 1420 01:40:17,428 --> 01:40:19,096 - Yes. - Yeah. Okay. 1421 01:40:21,349 --> 01:40:24,017 Let me just take you back now. 1422 01:40:24,102 --> 01:40:28,730 Let's go back to June, 1985. 1423 01:40:29,065 --> 01:40:32,484 Do you recall any allegations of sexual misconduct 1424 01:40:32,568 --> 01:40:36,029 - against the Archbishop at that time? - I don't recall that, no. 1425 01:40:36,114 --> 01:40:40,492 No? Do you recall a young man by the name of Michael O'Donnell 1426 01:40:40,576 --> 01:40:45,122 who came to the felony review unit at your office? 1427 01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:51,211 I have no idea what you're talking about, 1428 01:40:51,295 --> 01:40:52,671 - Counselor. - You don't? 1429 01:40:52,755 --> 01:40:54,381 This is so confusing to me, 1430 01:40:54,465 --> 01:40:57,384 because I have this document here 1431 01:40:57,468 --> 01:40:59,761 from the Chicago Metropolitan Police Department, 1432 01:40:59,846 --> 01:41:03,890 and it says that, yes, Michael O'Donnell spoke to the supervisor of that unit 1433 01:41:03,975 --> 01:41:07,728 over a period of two weeks, explaining to him, in graphic detail, 1434 01:41:07,812 --> 01:41:11,440 sexual abuse he suffered at the hands of Archbishop Rushman. 1435 01:41:11,524 --> 01:41:12,524 Quiet. 1436 01:41:12,608 --> 01:41:16,737 Isn鈥檛 it also true, Mr. State's Attorney, that you then decided that your friend, 1437 01:41:16,821 --> 01:41:20,323 Archbishop Rushman, was not going to stand trial for any of it? 1438 01:41:21,909 --> 01:41:23,994 He owed you big time, John. 1439 01:41:24,245 --> 01:41:27,831 You must have been really pissed off when he pulled out of South River. 1440 01:41:28,166 --> 01:41:29,332 What happened? What was it? 1441 01:41:29,417 --> 01:41:32,043 He just finally said, "I can't take it anymore"? He said, "No!" 1442 01:41:32,128 --> 01:41:34,463 - Mr. Vail. - So you and your investors... 1443 01:41:34,547 --> 01:41:36,798 - Mr. Vail. - ...had 60 million reasons to kill him! 1444 01:41:36,883 --> 01:41:39,384 - You little cocksucker! - That's it. Witness dismissed. 1445 01:41:39,469 --> 01:41:42,095 This court's in recess. Vail, in my chambers now. 1446 01:41:42,180 --> 01:41:45,056 That's for Joey Pinero, you little shithead. 1447 01:41:49,187 --> 01:41:50,854 Start looking for a job. 1448 01:42:00,907 --> 01:42:04,576 If you think you can use my courtroom to wage personal vendettas 1449 01:42:04,660 --> 01:42:07,704 and settle old scores, you are sorely mistaken. 1450 01:42:08,289 --> 01:42:11,583 I'm striking Shaughnessy's testimony from the record as irrelevant, 1451 01:42:11,667 --> 01:42:14,544 and I'm holding you in contempt to the tune of $10,000. 1452 01:42:15,213 --> 01:42:18,799 So what you're telling me is, I can't get a fair trial in your courtroom, is that it? 1453 01:42:18,883 --> 01:42:22,511 Be very, very careful, Mr. Vail. You're on dangerous ground here. 1454 01:42:22,595 --> 01:42:25,305 Fine, fine. You want me to make that check out to you, Judge? 1455 01:42:25,389 --> 01:42:27,599 Do you want me to take you off this case? 1456 01:42:27,934 --> 01:42:31,603 You're making a mockery of my courtroom, and I'm not going to allow it. 1457 01:42:31,771 --> 01:42:36,900 I suggest you start representing your client and stop representing yourself. 1458 01:42:45,952 --> 01:42:47,035 ...do this later? 1459 01:42:47,119 --> 01:42:49,913 No, I want to stay with this for a minute. 1460 01:42:51,082 --> 01:42:55,085 - I'm feeling very, very tired. - Yeah, I know. 1461 01:42:55,419 --> 01:42:58,088 Why does talking about Linda Forbes upset you? 1462 01:42:59,215 --> 01:43:00,841 It doesn't. I just... 1463 01:43:01,968 --> 01:43:05,136 - Okay, okay. - I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 1464 01:43:08,558 --> 01:43:10,892 Hey, you know what I can do with this thing? 1465 01:43:10,977 --> 01:43:12,769 How the fuck should I know? 1466 01:43:21,946 --> 01:43:25,866 Dr. Arrington, how much time have you spent with Aaron Stampler? 1467 01:43:26,158 --> 01:43:27,617 Around 60 hours. 1468 01:43:27,702 --> 01:43:30,537 And what did you find in the course of your evaluation? 1469 01:43:30,621 --> 01:43:34,374 I found that Mr. Stampler suffers from an acute disassociative condition, 1470 01:43:34,458 --> 01:43:36,877 specifically, multiple personality disorder. 1471 01:43:36,961 --> 01:43:38,128 Objection, Your Honor. 1472 01:43:38,212 --> 01:43:41,214 Now, Dr. Arrington is only stating what she herself has personally observed. 1473 01:43:41,299 --> 01:43:43,174 - Your Honor. - Counselors. 1474 01:43:45,219 --> 01:43:48,138 - Now, I know what you're doing. - Will you excuse us for a minute? 1475 01:43:50,808 --> 01:43:52,809 Your Honor, if he wants to question his client's sanity... 1476 01:43:52,894 --> 01:43:56,187 Your Honor, I'm trying to establish a medical basis for amnesia here. 1477 01:43:56,272 --> 01:43:59,399 That is not what he's doing. He's saying he's crazy. 1478 01:43:59,775 --> 01:44:03,320 - Are you? - No, I am not. 1479 01:44:03,404 --> 01:44:07,574 I'll allow you to proceed with this witness if you're very, very careful. 1480 01:44:07,658 --> 01:44:10,827 Absolutely. Yes. 1481 01:44:10,912 --> 01:44:13,038 Write down that he said that. 1482 01:44:13,539 --> 01:44:15,040 All right, where were we? 1483 01:44:20,421 --> 01:44:24,132 Now, could Aaron Stampler 1484 01:44:24,216 --> 01:44:28,762 have been present during the murder of Archbishop Rushman 1485 01:44:28,846 --> 01:44:30,847 - and not remember it? - Yes, he could. 1486 01:44:30,932 --> 01:44:33,016 Okay. Could you explain that, please? 1487 01:44:33,225 --> 01:44:35,769 Mr. Stampler's state at the time of the offense was such that 1488 01:44:35,853 --> 01:44:37,938 his body could be present at a homicide 1489 01:44:38,022 --> 01:44:40,440 and yet his mind would be unable to recall it. 1490 01:44:40,858 --> 01:44:43,360 - And how is that possible? - The neurological mechanism 1491 01:44:43,444 --> 01:44:46,196 that would make this possible began with the early abuse 1492 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,031 suffered at the hands of his father. 1493 01:44:48,115 --> 01:44:50,533 In defense, Aaron's psyche splintered 1494 01:44:50,618 --> 01:44:53,578 and helped him to create two separate personalities. 1495 01:44:53,663 --> 01:44:55,705 - Your Honor. - I didn't say it. 1496 01:44:55,790 --> 01:44:58,458 - I did not say it... - You've been warned twice now. 1497 01:44:58,542 --> 01:45:00,502 Do you really wanna pursue this line of questioning? 1498 01:45:00,586 --> 01:45:04,047 And I suggest you think long and hard before answering. 1499 01:45:06,717 --> 01:45:09,260 Your Honor, just one last question. 1500 01:45:14,183 --> 01:45:16,226 All right, Dr. Arrington, 1501 01:45:17,687 --> 01:45:22,649 in your opinion, is Aaron Stampler capable of murder? 1502 01:45:22,733 --> 01:45:24,567 No, he is not. He is far too traumatized 1503 01:45:24,652 --> 01:45:26,820 to express normal anger and frustration. 1504 01:45:26,904 --> 01:45:28,989 He keeps his emotions repressed, 1505 01:45:29,073 --> 01:45:31,658 which is why he created Roy, who is capable of such a crime. 1506 01:45:31,742 --> 01:45:34,244 - Objection, Your Honor. - That's enough, Mr. Vail. 1507 01:45:34,370 --> 01:45:38,039 The jury will disregard this witness' last statement, as will the court. 1508 01:45:38,124 --> 01:45:39,416 - Thank you very much. - Madam Prosecutor, 1509 01:45:39,500 --> 01:45:42,043 - do you wish to cross? - You bet I do. 1510 01:45:44,422 --> 01:45:47,841 Since you brought it up, against the instructions of the court, 1511 01:45:47,925 --> 01:45:49,342 I'm curious to know, 1512 01:45:49,427 --> 01:45:52,846 is multiple personality disorder your primary area of expertise? 1513 01:45:52,930 --> 01:45:54,973 It's not my primary field, no. 1514 01:45:55,057 --> 01:45:58,601 Is forensic psychiatry your primary area of expertise? 1515 01:45:59,103 --> 01:46:01,604 - No, I'm a neuropsychologist. - I see. 1516 01:46:02,023 --> 01:46:04,941 So you have no forensic experience, 1517 01:46:05,026 --> 01:46:08,611 and you're more of, let's say, an academic? 1518 01:46:09,989 --> 01:46:13,283 Then you will forgive this rather academic question. 1519 01:46:13,951 --> 01:46:16,995 I'm driving in my car, somebody cuts me off. 1520 01:46:17,079 --> 01:46:19,039 I think to myself, "I could just kill that guy," 1521 01:46:19,123 --> 01:46:20,707 but I don't, now do I? 1522 01:46:20,791 --> 01:46:22,625 - I would hope not. - That's right. 1523 01:46:22,710 --> 01:46:26,379 Things happen to us. People wrong us, 1524 01:46:26,464 --> 01:46:28,923 but we don't all go around inventing psychopaths 1525 01:46:29,008 --> 01:46:31,009 to do our dirty work for us, now, do we, Doctor? 1526 01:46:31,093 --> 01:46:34,262 I'm not suggesting you suffer from multiple personality, Miss Venable. 1527 01:46:34,346 --> 01:46:37,223 - I'm saying Mr. Stampler does. - Yes, I know. We heard. 1528 01:46:39,185 --> 01:46:43,480 You have also testified that you have met this... 1529 01:46:43,564 --> 01:46:44,898 What was his name again? 1530 01:46:44,982 --> 01:46:46,399 - Roy. - Roy what? 1531 01:46:46,984 --> 01:46:49,235 - He didn't give a last name. - I see. 1532 01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:53,406 Did this Roy tell you that he had murdered the Archbishop? 1533 01:46:53,491 --> 01:46:56,117 Mr. Vail was alone with him at the time. I was watching through the window, 1534 01:46:56,202 --> 01:46:59,370 but soon after that I was in the room and saw both Roy 1535 01:46:59,455 --> 01:47:01,790 and his transformation back to Aaron. 1536 01:47:02,666 --> 01:47:08,254 Did you happen to tape this appearance of Aaron... 1537 01:47:09,673 --> 01:47:14,177 I'm sorry. I am sorry. I just cannot get used to this name. 1538 01:47:14,261 --> 01:47:16,679 - Roy. - Did you? 1539 01:47:18,474 --> 01:47:21,184 - No, the tape was off. - Off? 1540 01:47:23,395 --> 01:47:28,399 So you have no record whatsoever of his appearance. 1541 01:47:28,692 --> 01:47:29,943 - No. - No. 1542 01:47:32,363 --> 01:47:35,115 Does Aaron Stampler know the difference between right and wrong? 1543 01:47:35,199 --> 01:47:36,241 Yes, he does. 1544 01:47:36,325 --> 01:47:39,077 If Aaron Stampler butchered the Archbishop, would he know... 1545 01:47:39,161 --> 01:47:40,286 Objection, Your Honor. 1546 01:47:40,371 --> 01:47:43,748 If Aaron Stampler murdered the Archbishop, 1547 01:47:43,833 --> 01:47:48,253 - would he know he'd broken the law? - Yes, he would, but it wasn't Aaron... 1548 01:47:48,379 --> 01:47:52,465 Yes, I know, Doctor. It was Roy. 1549 01:47:55,761 --> 01:47:59,055 That's all. No further questions, Your Honor. 1550 01:47:59,181 --> 01:48:00,640 Witness may step down. 1551 01:48:00,724 --> 01:48:03,726 Miss Venable, if you would like to re-open the Prosecution's case 1552 01:48:03,811 --> 01:48:05,311 and call the State's psychiatrist, 1553 01:48:05,396 --> 01:48:08,565 - I will certainly agree to it. - No, I... 1554 01:48:08,649 --> 01:48:10,233 I don't think that's necessary, Your Honor. 1555 01:48:10,317 --> 01:48:12,068 I think we all get the picture here. 1556 01:48:12,903 --> 01:48:16,322 Mr. Vail, are you ready to proceed? 1557 01:48:19,118 --> 01:48:20,910 Would you like a recess? 1558 01:49:26,227 --> 01:49:27,310 Roy? 1559 01:49:28,812 --> 01:49:29,979 Aaron. 1560 01:49:33,943 --> 01:49:36,027 Could you tell us a little about your relationship 1561 01:49:36,111 --> 01:49:37,987 with Archbishop Rushman? 1562 01:49:38,572 --> 01:49:43,284 Well, he was like a father to me. I loved him very much. 1563 01:49:43,369 --> 01:49:45,078 Why did you love him? 1564 01:49:45,663 --> 01:49:46,829 Why? 1565 01:49:48,123 --> 01:49:52,085 Well, he saved my life. 1566 01:49:52,336 --> 01:49:57,298 He was the only person who ever treated me like I was worth anything. 1567 01:49:57,675 --> 01:50:00,426 Stop your whining, you little girl. Be a man. 1568 01:50:04,181 --> 01:50:07,517 Now, we've all seen that tape that you were in, Aaron. 1569 01:50:08,477 --> 01:50:09,852 How did that make you feel? 1570 01:50:09,937 --> 01:50:12,730 Did it change your feelings about Archbishop Rushman? 1571 01:50:13,023 --> 01:50:14,023 No. 1572 01:50:15,401 --> 01:50:18,194 He was a wonderful man. 1573 01:50:18,279 --> 01:50:19,904 So you didn't feel anger towards him 1574 01:50:19,989 --> 01:50:22,365 about being forced to perform in that tape? 1575 01:50:23,033 --> 01:50:26,869 No, he did everything for me. 1576 01:50:27,037 --> 01:50:30,123 There wasn't nothing else I could do for him, and he needed it. 1577 01:50:30,207 --> 01:50:32,458 Do you know someone named Roy? 1578 01:50:35,504 --> 01:50:36,879 No, I don't. 1579 01:50:37,631 --> 01:50:40,425 You heard Dr. Arrington's testimony about 1580 01:50:40,509 --> 01:50:42,760 what she and I saw there at the jail. 1581 01:50:43,220 --> 01:50:46,055 Aaron, some pretty strange things going on there. Do you remember? 1582 01:50:46,140 --> 01:50:48,516 I heard what she said, but I don't remember any of that. 1583 01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,435 - No recollection? - No, sir. 1584 01:50:50,519 --> 01:50:52,854 Did you kill Archbishop Rushman? 1585 01:50:54,857 --> 01:50:56,733 No, sir, I did not. 1586 01:51:02,698 --> 01:51:03,781 Thank you. 1587 01:51:06,618 --> 01:51:08,077 Your witness. 1588 01:51:15,586 --> 01:51:18,212 Mr. Stampler, would you like some water? 1589 01:51:22,217 --> 01:51:24,761 - No, ma'am. - You sure? 1590 01:51:26,430 --> 01:51:28,473 Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. 1591 01:51:36,398 --> 01:51:40,526 Mr. Stampler, did you believe that the Archbishop wore masks? 1592 01:51:43,655 --> 01:51:45,782 I'm sorry, what did you say? 1593 01:51:46,075 --> 01:51:50,203 Do you think he acted one way in public and another way in private? 1594 01:51:51,246 --> 01:51:53,247 No, I didn't think that. 1595 01:51:54,083 --> 01:51:56,459 Isn鈥檛 that why you underlined the Hawthorne passage? 1596 01:51:59,004 --> 01:52:00,421 Mr. Stampler? 1597 01:52:03,384 --> 01:52:05,343 No, I did not underline that book. 1598 01:52:05,427 --> 01:52:08,137 - You didn't underline it? - No, ma'am. 1599 01:52:08,222 --> 01:52:11,766 And you didn't carve the numbers referring to that passage into his chest? 1600 01:52:11,850 --> 01:52:15,728 No, no, ma'am, I did not. I told you I... 1601 01:52:15,813 --> 01:52:17,313 You loved him. 1602 01:52:18,732 --> 01:52:20,858 You loved him like a father. 1603 01:52:21,151 --> 01:52:24,654 Even though he made you and your girlfriend 1604 01:52:24,738 --> 01:52:28,157 perform demeaning sexual acts for his own gratification. 1605 01:52:28,700 --> 01:52:30,952 No, you don't understand. He... 1606 01:52:31,995 --> 01:52:36,082 There was no other way for him to cast out his own demons. 1607 01:52:36,166 --> 01:52:38,709 - He needed it. - He needed to get off, Aaron. 1608 01:52:38,794 --> 01:52:40,128 That's what he was doing. 1609 01:52:40,212 --> 01:52:44,424 That's what he needed you for, to perform like a circus animal. 1610 01:52:44,508 --> 01:52:47,218 - That was your function in his life. - No. 1611 01:52:47,302 --> 01:52:51,097 Mr. Stampler, I'm gonna ask you straight, because I am tired, 1612 01:52:51,181 --> 01:52:53,641 and I've had just about all I can take of this sordidness, 1613 01:52:53,725 --> 01:52:54,934 and I wanna go home, 1614 01:52:55,018 --> 01:52:59,272 and I wanna wash my hands, and I wanna forget all about you 1615 01:52:59,356 --> 01:53:01,441 and Archbishop Rushman. 1616 01:53:01,525 --> 01:53:05,361 Did the Archbishop force you and your girlfriend and others 1617 01:53:05,446 --> 01:53:09,282 to perform sexual acts while he watched? Yes or no? 1618 01:53:12,202 --> 01:53:15,121 - Yes, he did, but... - Yes. Yes, he forced you. 1619 01:53:15,539 --> 01:53:19,208 He forced you using a threat of expulsion from Savior House 1620 01:53:19,293 --> 01:53:23,671 and a life on the street with no heat and no water and no food. 1621 01:53:23,755 --> 01:53:27,842 He put you in front of a camera! He made you take off your clothes! 1622 01:53:27,926 --> 01:53:30,678 And you don't think that that's another side? 1623 01:53:31,138 --> 01:53:32,930 Another face of a man that we all thought... 1624 01:53:33,015 --> 01:53:34,891 - No! No. - Do you know what I would do 1625 01:53:34,975 --> 01:53:37,477 if someone did that to me? I would kill him. I wouldn't hesitate. 1626 01:53:37,561 --> 01:53:39,020 - No. - I would stab him 1627 01:53:39,104 --> 01:53:40,897 78 times with a butcher knife! 1628 01:53:40,981 --> 01:53:44,150 I would chop off his fingers! I would slash his throat open! 1629 01:53:44,234 --> 01:53:45,985 I would carve numbers into his chest! 1630 01:53:46,069 --> 01:53:49,113 I would gouge out his eyes! I swear to God. 1631 01:53:51,241 --> 01:53:52,742 But that's me. 1632 01:54:01,752 --> 01:54:03,002 No further questions, Your Honor. 1633 01:54:03,086 --> 01:54:04,504 Where the hell do you think you're going? 1634 01:54:04,588 --> 01:54:05,796 - Excuse me? - Hey, you look at me 1635 01:54:05,881 --> 01:54:08,257 - when I'm talking to you, bitch! - Mr. Stampler. 1636 01:54:08,342 --> 01:54:10,092 - Fuck you, lady! Come here! - That's it. 1637 01:54:10,177 --> 01:54:12,053 Order! Bailiff! Order! 1638 01:54:13,138 --> 01:54:17,558 Come here! You wanna play rough? Let's play rough. Come on. Back off! 1639 01:54:17,643 --> 01:54:20,102 - Roy! Take it easy. - Keep coming, asshole. 1640 01:54:20,187 --> 01:54:22,188 You'll see if I don't break her fucking neck. 1641 01:54:22,272 --> 01:54:24,023 - Roy, come here. I gotta talk to you. - Fuck you, Marty! 1642 01:54:24,107 --> 01:54:26,567 - I'm walking out of here. Now, slow... - It's me. 1643 01:54:31,323 --> 01:54:34,033 No! No! Don't you... 1644 01:54:35,619 --> 01:54:36,619 No! 1645 01:54:42,459 --> 01:54:44,835 - You okay? - Yeah. Yeah, I'm okay. 1646 01:55:11,947 --> 01:55:14,615 Don't even think of lighting that cigarette, Miss Venable. 1647 01:55:20,664 --> 01:55:23,332 - How's your neck? - I'll live. 1648 01:55:23,542 --> 01:55:25,209 I could call a doctor. 1649 01:55:25,711 --> 01:55:30,798 Mr. Shaughnessy just called to inform me there will be no mistrial, 1650 01:55:30,882 --> 01:55:33,217 - as if that was his right. - I can't believe 1651 01:55:33,302 --> 01:55:35,678 that scumbag has the balls to call here. 1652 01:55:35,846 --> 01:55:37,013 No, thanks. 1653 01:55:37,389 --> 01:55:39,890 What matters to me is what you have to say. 1654 01:55:39,975 --> 01:55:42,393 Obviously, your case has been damaged. 1655 01:55:43,937 --> 01:55:46,772 In fairness to the Prosecution, I would declare a mistrial, 1656 01:55:46,857 --> 01:55:49,525 regardless of what Monsieurs Shaughnessy and Vail think, 1657 01:55:49,610 --> 01:55:51,068 if that's what you want. 1658 01:55:51,153 --> 01:55:54,155 The Prosecution doesn't wanna try this case again, even if it could, 1659 01:55:54,239 --> 01:55:57,283 which it can't, at least not by me. 1660 01:55:57,367 --> 01:56:00,202 And I think I can guarantee you there's no one 1661 01:56:00,370 --> 01:56:05,708 in the DA's office who will, so it's up to you. 1662 01:56:06,168 --> 01:56:08,669 I'm going to dismiss the jury in favor of a bench trial 1663 01:56:08,754 --> 01:56:11,297 and a blind plea of not guilty by reason of insanity. 1664 01:56:11,381 --> 01:56:12,882 - Yes? - Yeah. 1665 01:56:12,966 --> 01:56:14,967 The defendant will be remanded to Elgin 1666 01:56:15,052 --> 01:56:17,053 for an evaluation period of 30 days. 1667 01:56:17,137 --> 01:56:19,472 Let them decide the term of his commitment. 1668 01:56:19,556 --> 01:56:21,015 Do either of you have a problem with that? 1669 01:56:21,099 --> 01:56:22,767 Your Honor, he'll be out in a month. 1670 01:56:22,851 --> 01:56:25,853 Take it up with the Legislature, Miss Venable. 1671 01:56:28,857 --> 01:56:30,399 I'm going home. 1672 01:56:35,530 --> 01:56:37,239 - Your Honor. - No, Mr. Vail, 1673 01:56:37,324 --> 01:56:39,784 I am not refunding your contempt fine, 1674 01:56:39,868 --> 01:56:42,328 and the next time you wanna get a client off on insanity, 1675 01:56:42,412 --> 01:56:43,871 you plead that way, 1676 01:56:43,955 --> 01:56:46,082 or I'll have you disbarred. 1677 01:57:14,695 --> 01:57:19,073 - You okay? - Am I okay? Do I seem okay? 1678 01:57:19,616 --> 01:57:22,993 I get attacked by this sick twist, I've lost the case, I'm out of a job. 1679 01:57:23,078 --> 01:57:26,831 No, Marty. I'm not particularly okay, but, hey, you won, 1680 01:57:26,915 --> 01:57:29,875 justice was done. Who the hell cares, right? 1681 01:57:31,420 --> 01:57:33,003 Congratulations. 1682 01:57:39,386 --> 01:57:41,178 You knew, didn't you? 1683 01:57:41,555 --> 01:57:44,390 You knew if I went after him, he'd wig out up there. 1684 01:57:44,474 --> 01:57:48,227 Well, I knew he'd come out if he was threatened. 1685 01:57:48,311 --> 01:57:50,563 And who better to do that than me? 1686 01:57:51,815 --> 01:57:53,232 You used me. 1687 01:57:57,446 --> 01:57:59,572 Yeah, I did. I had no choice. 1688 01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:05,619 What did I use, by the way, that was so terrible? 1689 01:58:05,912 --> 01:58:09,749 I knew you'd do your job. I knew you'd stand up to Shaughnessy. 1690 01:58:09,958 --> 01:58:12,877 I knew you'd try to win the case. Now, what's wrong with that? 1691 01:58:12,961 --> 01:58:14,754 I lost my fucking job! 1692 01:58:14,838 --> 01:58:16,547 And that's good. You should've left him years ago. 1693 01:58:16,631 --> 01:58:19,592 Christ, Marty, why is it you always think you know what's right for me? 1694 01:58:19,676 --> 01:58:21,135 Because I'm arrogant. 1695 01:58:23,180 --> 01:58:24,555 I'm very, 1696 01:58:26,391 --> 01:58:28,350 very arrogant. 1697 01:58:39,196 --> 01:58:41,030 - You wanna dance? - No. 1698 01:58:42,574 --> 01:58:43,991 - Sure? - Yeah. 1699 01:58:47,287 --> 01:58:49,705 All you have to do is turn around. 1700 01:58:55,378 --> 01:58:56,420 No. 1701 01:58:58,548 --> 01:58:59,715 No. 1702 01:59:09,309 --> 01:59:11,268 I have to see my client. 1703 01:59:54,855 --> 01:59:57,231 - I'd like a minute alone with him. - Are you sure? 1704 01:59:57,315 --> 01:59:59,024 Yeah. I'm sure. 1705 02:00:10,829 --> 02:00:12,037 You okay? 1706 02:00:15,959 --> 02:00:17,459 My head hurts. 1707 02:00:19,004 --> 02:00:21,630 You don't remember what just happened? 1708 02:00:24,968 --> 02:00:30,014 - No? - I lost time again. 1709 02:00:31,057 --> 02:00:33,517 Well, I got some good news. 1710 02:00:34,644 --> 02:00:36,562 They've agreed to stop the trial. 1711 02:00:36,646 --> 02:00:39,231 They're gonna be sending you to a hospital. 1712 02:00:39,733 --> 02:00:41,358 You can get the help you need. 1713 02:00:43,278 --> 02:00:48,157 Now, there's a very good chance you can get out someday soon. 1714 02:00:51,620 --> 02:00:52,703 Yeah. 1715 02:00:57,417 --> 02:00:59,209 I can't believe it. 1716 02:01:00,170 --> 02:01:04,340 - I don't know what to say, Mr. Vail. - That's all right, Aaron. That's okay. 1717 02:01:04,424 --> 02:01:07,301 I knew, the minute you came into my cell, 1718 02:01:07,385 --> 02:01:10,137 I knew everything was gonna be okay. 1719 02:01:10,221 --> 02:01:12,848 You saved my life. 1720 02:01:16,853 --> 02:01:18,103 Yeah. 1721 02:01:19,898 --> 02:01:21,315 I got to go. 1722 02:01:23,693 --> 02:01:28,405 - When will I see you again? - Well, that's up to the courts now. 1723 02:01:29,991 --> 02:01:33,786 I don't want you to worry, Aaron. I'm gonna stay on top of this, okay? 1724 02:01:40,710 --> 02:01:42,044 Thank you. 1725 02:01:43,296 --> 02:01:46,131 All right. You give me a call if you need to. Okay? 1726 02:01:46,216 --> 02:01:47,591 - I will. - All right. 1727 02:01:50,762 --> 02:01:52,930 - Hey, Mr. Vail? - Yeah. 1728 02:01:54,724 --> 02:01:58,936 Will you tell Miss Venable I'm sorry? 1729 02:02:00,772 --> 02:02:03,565 Tell her I hope her neck is okay. 1730 02:02:04,609 --> 02:02:05,734 Yeah. 1731 02:02:22,752 --> 02:02:26,255 - What did you just say? - What? 1732 02:02:27,716 --> 02:02:30,718 You told me you don't remember. You black out. 1733 02:02:34,264 --> 02:02:36,682 So how do you know about her neck? 1734 02:02:51,990 --> 02:02:55,409 Well, good for you, Marty. 1735 02:02:57,078 --> 02:02:58,954 I was gonna let it go. 1736 02:02:59,122 --> 02:03:02,499 You was looking so happy just now. I was thinking... 1737 02:03:03,626 --> 02:03:06,045 But to tell you the truth, I'm glad you figured it, 1738 02:03:06,129 --> 02:03:08,714 'cause I have been dying to tell you. 1739 02:03:09,716 --> 02:03:11,675 I just didn't know who you'd wanna hear it from, you know. 1740 02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:14,803 I mean, Aaron or Roy, or Roy or Aaron. 1741 02:03:15,263 --> 02:03:17,181 Well, I'll let you in on a little secret, 1742 02:03:17,265 --> 02:03:21,143 sort of a client-attorney privilege type of a secret. You know what I mean? 1743 02:03:22,020 --> 02:03:25,773 It don't matter who you hear it from. It's the same story. 1744 02:03:30,403 --> 02:03:33,489 I just 1745 02:03:33,573 --> 02:03:35,657 had to kill Linda, Mr. Vail. 1746 02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:39,787 That cunt just got what she deserved. 1747 02:03:43,166 --> 02:03:47,211 But cutting up that son of a bitch Rushman, 1748 02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:52,091 that was just a fucking work of art. 1749 02:04:00,391 --> 02:04:02,726 You're good. You are really good. 1750 02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:06,355 Yeah, I did get caught, though, didn't I? 1751 02:04:10,568 --> 02:04:14,696 So there never... There never was a Roy? 1752 02:04:16,032 --> 02:04:20,077 Jesus Christ, Marty. If that's what you think, I'm disappointed in you. 1753 02:04:20,161 --> 02:04:21,787 I don't mind telling you. 1754 02:04:24,541 --> 02:04:28,836 There never was an Aaron, Counselor. 1755 02:04:37,804 --> 02:04:40,180 Come on, Marty, I thought you had it figured there at the end. 1756 02:04:40,265 --> 02:04:41,640 The way you put me on the stand like that, 1757 02:04:41,724 --> 02:04:43,684 that was fucking brilliant, Marty. 1758 02:04:43,768 --> 02:04:45,352 And that whole thing, that, "Act like a man," 1759 02:04:45,436 --> 02:04:47,646 Jesus, I knew exactly what you wanted from me. 1760 02:04:47,730 --> 02:04:49,857 It was like we were dancing, Marty! 1761 02:04:49,941 --> 02:04:52,401 - Guard. - Come on. Don't be like that, Marty. 1762 02:04:53,862 --> 02:04:58,407 We did it, man. We fucking did it. We're a great team, you and me. 1763 02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:01,451 You think I could've done this without you? 1764 02:05:01,536 --> 02:05:03,036 You're just feeling a little anger here 1765 02:05:03,121 --> 02:05:05,956 because you started to care about old Aaron. I can understand that, 1766 02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:10,127 but, you know, love hurts, Marty. What can I say? 1767 02:05:11,045 --> 02:05:14,673 Hey, I'm just kidding, bud! I didn't mean to hurt your feelings! 1768 02:05:14,757 --> 02:05:17,092 What else was I supposed to do? 1769 02:05:17,427 --> 02:05:18,927 Hey, you're gonna thank me down the road, 1770 02:05:19,012 --> 02:05:21,930 'cause this is gonna toughen you right up, Martin Vail! 1771 02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:25,107 145168

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