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We must adjust to changing times...
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...execute the office of President
of the United States...
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I challenge a new generation
of young Americans...
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My biggest fantasy when I was a kid
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was that I would go to see
my favorite band play,
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and someone would come out and say,
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"Sorry, the band can't play tonight,
their drummer broke his fuckin' leg.
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"Unless there's someone
that knows all the songs..."
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Then, of course, I would jump up
and be the greatest drummer in the world.
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I fantasized about that.
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With Nirvana, the process
of making the music
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was so entirely simple and pure and real.
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Kurt was a great lyricist,
he had a beautiful voice,
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and he wrote really simple songs.
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There were things I learned about songwriting
from being in a band with Kurt
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that I don't think anyone else
could have taught me.
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That record, Nevermind, came out
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almost a year to the day
after I had joined the band.
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This song is called Smells Like Teen Spirit.
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Before Dave had joined the band,
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there was a message on my
answering machine from Kurt, saying,
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"Butch! We have the best drummer in the
world! He's the greatest drummer in the world.
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"I'm not kidding you. He's awesome, dude!"
And he hung up.
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About a week later we were in LA
and I walked into a rehearsal space with him.
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And Dave walked up - skinny, long hair...
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"Hey, man, I'm Dave. Nice to meet you."
He was just full of energy.
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I was like, "Let's play.
Play me some songs, you guys."
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And they played Teen Spirit.
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Dave did the...
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...and it just floored me.
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Of course, everybody was telling the band
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that they thought we were great,
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but I don't think the three of us ever believed
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a word of anything anyone was telling us.
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We never thought we were gonna sell
a million records.
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None of us had any idea that it was gonna
completely change my life and their lives.
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But I knew that they sounded really tight
and pretty focused,
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and that they had written
some amazingly powerful songs.
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We knew something was happening
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because the atmosphere of the gigs
just changed.
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They went from being cool, hipster,
underground people in a club
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to, like...
jocks were coming to the show.
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That was the first thing, like,
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"Oh my God, there's jocks here,"
you know?
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"That's kind of strange.
They like our music?
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"You used to kick my fucking ass
for listening to this music."
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I was a really big fan of Nirvana,
like everybody else,
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and I happened to be reading
an interview with Kurt
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where he had mentioned,
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Nirvana was always meant to be a four-piece,
a two-guitar band.
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It was never meant to be a three-piece.
I thought, "Oh, well that's my in."
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Pat is from this legendary punk rock band
called the Germs
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that we all grew up listening to.
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There was no one more badass
than the Germs.
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Germs didn't give a fuck.
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So Pat shows up in Seattle,
and all of us were just like,
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"Oh my God, hey, it's Pat Smear
from the Germs.
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"He's alive?"
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So now Nirvana is hitting the big halls,
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with guitarist Pat Smear
helping to make the loud louder.
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The day before the first rehearsal
I saw my picture on MTV News, saying,
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"Nirvana has a new guitar player, Pat Smear."
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I was like, "My God, it's real! There it is!"
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I don't think Kurt wanted to be
a huge fuckin' rock star.
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And I don't think he could handle
how complicated it had all become.
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No one was very happy with the tour,
or the band.
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So Kurt decided he wants a break,
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even though we're on this tour
you can't get out of,
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because you're a big band
and you get sued.
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We had, like, a week and a half off
in between two legs of the tour.
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I decided to fly home.
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And Kurt went to Rome, where he was
meeting Courtney Love, his wife.
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Hi, I'm Tabitha Soren, with MTV News.
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Nirvana front man Kurt Cobain
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was hospitalized in a coma in Rome, Italy
on Friday morning...
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I turn on the TV, and Kurt was being
wheeled away in an ambulance in Rome.
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I went to the hospital with him, and I didn't
know what to do, because I thought,
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"Do I say, this is Kurt Cobain,
take care of him right away, VIP,"
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or do I say, "This is just some guy,
don't call the press"?
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I finally went with, "This is Kurt Cobain, VIP.
Do something about it."
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Nirvana spokespeople reported
encouraging signs,
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saying they've been told Kurt Cobain
was responding to his name,
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opening his eyes,
and squeezing his wife's hand.
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When he came home,
I remember talking to him on the phone,
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and saying, "Hey man,
I don't want you to die, OK?"
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And he was very apologetic,
"No, I'm sorry, it was a big mistake.
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"I took these pills, I was drinking
this champagne and I was in Rome...
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"It was, just a...
just made a mistake."
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It was really sad. I had a message
from Kurt, but I wasn't home.
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And so whatever help he needed from me,
I couldn't help him.
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And that was the last time
I ever talked to him or saw him.
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When I found out that he had killed himself...
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I was kind of numb.
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I knew that it...
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He was gone,
but I didn't know how to feel.
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Kurt Cobain, a sweet and gifted man,
dead at the age of 27.
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To Courtney Love,
one-year-old Frances Bean Cobain,
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Dave Grohl, Kris Novoselic and Pat Smear,
our deepest sympathies.
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Everybody knew Kurt was in a bad way,
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but that's something
you never expect to happen.
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When someone is that down and out
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you still can't comprehend that they're
actually gonna commit suicide.
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It was terrible.
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After Kurt died, I didn't wanna play music.
I didn't wanna play the drums.
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When Kurt died,
it wasn't just that my friend died.
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It was my whole life kinda died around it
and with him, you know?
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And I quit the music business.
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At some point, I was finally motivated.
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"I'm gonna get myself out of this funk
I've been in for the last eight months."
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Or whatever it was, you know?
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I decided that I was gonna take
my favorite songs
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that I'd written over the last four or five years
that no one had heard...
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and I was going to record them...
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...at a 24-track studio
down the street from my house.
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And it was really exciting,
because I was doing it totally by myself.
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I didn't know why I was doing it.
I just wanted to do something, you know?
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So I booked a week at the studio,
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and at the end of the week, I had a cassette,
and it sounded good.
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And I started thinking,
"I won't put my name on it.
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"People will imagine it's just a band.
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"They won't know it's the guy from Nirvana."
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In the middle of that session,
I get a call at the studio
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that Tom Petty wants me to come
play drums for him on Saturday Night Live.
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I just thought,
"Oh my God, he's a hero of mine."
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And I had the opportunity to join the band
if I wanted to join the band.
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I really had to kind of choose.
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Was I going to play drums with Tom Petty,
or was I gonna start over from scratch
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and be the lead singer
and guitar player of a band,
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do something I'd never done before,
that I was terrified doing?
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Believe me, it was not easy to tell Tom Petty
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that I wasn't going to be his drummer.
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It was not an easy decision to make.
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I can still see my hand
just putting the phone down,
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and thinking, "OK, let's see what happens."
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There was a band in Seattle
called Sunny Day Real Estate.
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And a good friend of mine told me
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that Sunny Day Real Estate
were playing a show,
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and it was gonna be their last show
because they were breaking up.
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My band was falling apart
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about the same time that
Dave found himself without a band.
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We were broken up
while we were doing the tour.
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We decided we weren't gonna do it anymore,
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but had already booked this tour,
so we were like,
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"This will be the last thing we do."
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It was ironic because that was the first tour
that we were playing shows
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where people were actually showing up.
We were like, "Oh, well!"
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I went to the show to see them play,
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knowing it was probably the last time
anyone was gonna see them play.
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And I was watching them thinking,
"That's a really good rhythm section."
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I gave them the cassette, thinking,
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"Hey, check it out.
Maybe we could jam sometime."
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Dave was the first famous person I'd ever met.
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He was just out of Nirvana, you know,
like, that was a very big deal.
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I remember the first time that
Nate and William and I got together to jam.
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It was over at William's parents' house.
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I remember going up
to William's parents' kitchen
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and sitting there after we played,
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and Dave just goes,
"You guys wanna be in the band?"
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And I was like, "Hell yeah!"
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Playing in front of people
was very difficult for me.
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I did have a conversation with Dave
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and I said,
"I don't think that I should do it."
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Dave said, "That's exactly
why you're the guy that has to do it."
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I don't know what that meant
but that convinced me, I guess.
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After that rehearsal, Dave brings up
that he wants a second guitar player,
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and thinks it should be Pat Smear,
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who William and I knew from him having
played in Nirvana and the Germs.
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Then Dave came over,
and he gave me a cassette.
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I listened to that whole tape,
just front to end,
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and I thought it was all great.
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I didn't have anything against Pat.
I didn't know him as a musician or as a person.
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But he lived in Los Angeles,
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and I just thought that was fucking crazy.
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The way I'd grown up,
you were in a band with your friend from school
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that you saw every day.
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You'd go home after school and get together
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at somebody's mom's house or basement
and work it out.
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You can't do that
if the guy lives in Los Angeles.
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Pat came up, we played,
and he was perfect,
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so I got over that "Him living in LA" thing.
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I might have talked to him
about trying to move to Seattle.
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All of us came from bands
that ended prematurely.
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We didn't really talk about our former bands.
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For me, it was always
kind of a touchy subject.
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At this point in time,
Kurt had only been dead for a year,
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and I didn't wanna talk about it.
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So we all entered into this new band
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like it was helping us get through the loss
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of the bands we'd been in before.
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I remember it really vividly,
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Dave saying, like, "Let's have it be fun.
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"Let's have things be out in the open.
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"Let's talk about shit.
Just no drama."
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He was like,
"I don't want it to be a stressful thing.
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"We're not gonna tour into the ground."
And...
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Which I was glad about.
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The first tour that we did,
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was with a musician named Mike Watt.
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He is a legendary punk rock bass player.
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And he asked me if I would tour with him.
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And I said, "Yeah, man.
How about this?
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"I'll be in your band
if my band can open up on tour."
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And Eddie Vedder, from Pearl Jam,
had done the same thing.
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And we said, "Cool,
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"Let's put together a tour
where Eddie's other band,
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"they were called Hovercraft,
my band - Foo Fighters,
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"would open up for Watt,
and we would all be his band."
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It was just this, like,
revolving cast of musicians.
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Each song would have a different line-up.
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Instead of getting a bus for the first tour...
"We'll get a van."
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I'd never done a bus tour, so to me it was
totally obvious, "Yeah, we'll get a van.
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"What, we get to buy a brand new one?
Ha! Awesome!"
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We played six shows a week,
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and the places held maybe anywhere
from 300 to 600 people,
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and Foo Fighters were making
500 bucks a night or something like that.
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As the tour was going on,
the venues were getting bigger,
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and we started having that
really nice but weird sort of pressure.
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There was a lot of attention,
because it was Dave's first tour after Nirvana.
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The shows had
all of these Nirvana fans that came.
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They didn't know the songs
because the record hadn't been out yet.
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So there was a song called Marigold
by Nirvana,
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that Dave had written and sang on.
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It was the only thing they knew to yell out
when we were playing.
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So you'd just hear, "Marigold!"
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Marigold! Marigold! Marigold!
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Shut up!
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And we never played it.
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How weird that must have been for Dave.
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Arriving in record stores Tuesday
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was one of the most buzzed-about
new releases of the year,
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the self-titled debut album by Nirvana drummer
Dave Grohl's new band, Foo Fighters,
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who wowed crowds
on Mike Watt's recent club tour.
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Personally, to me, it was a big deal
when that record came out,
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because rather than go in
and record something as a band,
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we used the stuff I had recorded on my own.
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That cassette.
That's the first record.
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Making their network television debut
right here with us,
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we couldn't be happier,
ladies and gentlemen, Foo Fighters.
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Hi, Jena!
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And the winner is...
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Foo Fighters, Big Me.
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I would like to think of this award
as some sort of closure, it's...
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Stop throwing Mentos at us at our shows.
That's what I'm trying to say.
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There were lots of interviews and,
you know,
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Dave not wanting to talk about Nirvana.
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Every question in every interview
was about Nirvana.
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You can imagine what they were,
like, "Is this song about Kurt?"
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Take any song from the record.
"Is that song about Kurt Cobain?"
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What's it like to be at a press conference
and not be asked any questions?
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Fine with me,
because I didn't wanna answer
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any of the questions that were asked.
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There were some people
that really resented me for starting this band.
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"How dare you fucking start another band."
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They asked me, like,
"Why did you decide to carry on
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"and make music that sounds like Nirvana?"
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I said, "Well, wait a minute.
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"What do you mean,
like loud rock guitars and melodies
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"and cymbals crashing and big-ass drums?
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"'Cause that's what I do.
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"That's... I was in that band and this is, like...
That's what I do.
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"You want me to fuckin' make
a reggae record?"
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The first couple years,
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I really felt like I had to explain
and defend what I was doing,
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because, first of all,
"You're just a drummer.
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"And, what, you're trying to sing?
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"And also, you were in Nirvana,
so what the fuck is this shit?"
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So there's a... You just get to the point
where you just think,
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"Fuck you people."
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I wasn't sure what was gonna happen.
"Can Dave write more songs?
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"How is the writing process gonna work?
Will we suck?"
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I had no idea.
"Does this band have a future?"
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I knew we were gonna be OK
and be able to continue
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after I heard the song My Hero,
'cause it was great.
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There were some songs
that we just started writing
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and throwing into the set.
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There were only a couple songs that we had
that were really good openers.
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I thought, "God, I need to write
an opening song for us."
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In Europe and in England,
when bands play
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the audience don't beat the shit out
of each other like they do in America.
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They do this bounce, right?
Everybody bounces.
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So I wanted to write a song
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that everyone would start bouncing to
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when we first came out and played.
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So I had a melody and a riff idea,
but I didn't know the tempo.
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So I jumped up and down,
and I found a tempo by, like, bouncing.
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The tempo should be this...
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I wrote the song, brought it to sound check,
said, "I have this new song.
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"Let's learn it, so we can open with it
tomorrow night or tonight."
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We sound checked, ran through it,
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the next night we opened with that song,
the audience was going...
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It worked.
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It's like, "Wow, cool. Let's keep it."
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We played, like,
18,000 shows in one year.
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I'm exaggerating, but it felt like.
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Then we just toured a lot!
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Pat was keeping track,
Pat was always...
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Every other day he'd look at me and be like,
"12 months. 13 months. 16 months."
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I was just like...
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I remember each time he would tell me
I'd be like, "No fuckin' way!"
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We've been on tour for so long.
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We've been a band for almost a year now,
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and I'd say about seven months
out of that year has been spent on the road.
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I wasn't some kid who was just like,
"Yeah!" at that point.
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It was just kind of like, you know...
I'm older and I'm lazier...
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What?
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...and still I'm playing the same 20 songs
2 or 300 nights a year.
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This song's called For All The Cows.
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This song is called
For All The Cows.
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It's called For All The Cows.
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This one's called For All The Cows.
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This song is called
For All The Cows.
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The second album that we made -
The Colour And The Shape,
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we decided to work
with this producer named Gil Norton.
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And Gil, at the time,
was famous for making the Pixies records.
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This was my first real recording process.
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Now there's a producer,
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someone who's not just pressing play
but actually is saying, like,
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"I think that should be a C.
And you should also play it in time."
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We went into the studio with Gil
and he worked us hard, real hard.
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I was fucking terrible.
And William was having his own challenges.
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Gil called Nate and I the "rhythmless section".
So that was encouraging.
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I could tell, when I had
to do something a million times,
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that it was taking longer than I wanted,
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and it was my first realization -
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"I'm not a fully-formed musician.
I've got to keep getting better."
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Constantly, there was this feeling that,
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whatever song we were working on,
Dave had a drum...
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a drum part for it already,
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in his head or whatever.
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When I've written a song,
I have kind of a clear idea
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of where the basic root accents should lie.
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That's a fancy way of saying,
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I know what the drums should sound like
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in my head as I'm doing this thing.
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That's not necessarily fair
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to say that as a songwriter, you know,
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who's collaborating with other musicians.
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You're the drummer for a band
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where your singer is the greatest
rock 'n' roll drummer in the world,
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looking over your shoulder waiting for you
to do it as good as him.
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That's just fucked-up pressure.
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Regardless of how good you are,
that's just fucked-up pressure.
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And remember that William was a kid.
He was really young.
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I think that William
played the best that he could.
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And sometimes it was great,
and sometimes it wasn't.
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What sucked about all that was, you know...
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I don't think the drum performances
were the best.
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They didn't...
They weren't horrible.
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If I listen to a song and I don't think
it has the thing that it needs,
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it's not necessarily gonna get past me
and get on an album.
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We left Seattle, and went to Los Angeles
to a different studio
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to finish this thing up.
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And Dave comes in, he's like,
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"Listen, we're gonna redo..."
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"My Poor Brain."
Or whatever the song is.
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"Drum track's not quite right.
Actually, I'm doing the drums on this one.
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"We're just gonna redo it."
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William's up in Seattle
at this point in time.
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They'd call me down and say,
"We need you to come play guitar on a song."
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And I'd go down and I'd be like,
"Well, I already played this song."
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"Well, we did it over."
"Oh, OK."
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You know, do it again.
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I'd go home, then I'd get called again,
"Come down and play."
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I'm like, "All right, cool. Let's do it."
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"I already played this song!"
It just kept happening.
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"What the fuck is going on here?"
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And this happens three or four times,
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like, "Hey, we're gonna try this one again."
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It ended up like, "Wait a minute.
We're just doing this whole album over."
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I remember asking, "Does William know?"
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William's still up in Seattle,
so he doesn't know what's going on
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and that this is happening.
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And I'm stressing pretty hard because
that's gonna be a big problem.
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I was like, "What's going on?
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"Should I book a flight?
I should be down there."
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Dave calls me, like, "Don't come down here."
I was like, "Why?"
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He goes, "I'm redoing a couple of drum tracks."
I was like..."Whoa. OK."
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And I met with Nate.
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I said, "What's going on?
Dave's redoing a couple of the tracks?"
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He goes, "Is that what he told you?"
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I said, "Yeah."
He goes, "He redid 'em all."
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The conversation
that I eventually had with William
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was that I really wanted him
to stay in the band,
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and I really wanted him to be the drummer...
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but...
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I was gonna play drums on the record.
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I don't know whether it was management,
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the record company, Gil,
all of the above, Dave,
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that wanted him to play drums
and didn't want me to play drums,
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but him redoing the drum parts
has never been explained to me.
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It's a tough thing to talk about,
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because I know that William
will never forgive me
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for playing drums on that record.
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I know it.
And I wish things were different.
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But I felt like this is what I had to do
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in order to make this album happen.
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We talked and Dave said,
"I still want you to tour the record."
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And I was just like,
"Dude, I mean, I have to, you know...
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"As it is now, I have to rebuild my soul,
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"or refind it, if you know what I mean.
401
00:32:05,770 --> 00:32:08,364
"If I do that, it's like, 'see ya'.
402
00:32:08,406 --> 00:32:11,341
"So... thanks but no thanks."
403
00:32:12,978 --> 00:32:18,041
It was a really weird time,
and I was young.
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00:32:19,684 --> 00:32:20,946
What the fuck?
405
00:32:32,998 --> 00:32:35,228
I heard on the radio...
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00:32:35,267 --> 00:32:38,634
"Foo Fighters drummer has left the band."
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00:32:40,572 --> 00:32:42,301
I was like, "Whoa! Really?
408
00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:45,070
"I wonder if they have a drummer yet?"
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00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:49,274
I remember vividly my brother saying,
"You should be in this band."
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00:32:49,314 --> 00:32:53,148
I was like, "Well, fuck, yeah,
that'd be great, wouldn't it?
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00:32:53,184 --> 00:32:58,019
"I would love to have been in the Who,
Jane's Addiction and Led Zeppelin too."
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Around that time, Taylor Hawkins
was playing drums with Alanis Morissette.
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And she was blowing up.
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I'd seen him play before, and there's no
question the dude's a monster on the drums.
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00:33:19,678 --> 00:33:24,945
It's funny, 'cause back there's Taylor
just fuckin' like... Just fuckin' killing it.
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00:33:24,983 --> 00:33:26,007
Like, "Oh my God!"
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We all loved Taylor, but he was in a band,
the biggest band around at the time.
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We were kind of in a pinch.
We had just recorded this record,
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and we had to go out and start doing shit.
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So Dave calls him up, like,
"Hey, man, do you know any good drummers?"
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I was like, "Yeah. I'll be your fuckin' drummer!
Let me try out."
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00:33:46,438 --> 00:33:50,738
I remember saying to Taylor, "You realize
we're not as big as Alanis Morissette?"
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I'm like, "I know, but I wanna be in a band.
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"I wanna be part of something like that."
So he said,
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00:33:56,948 --> 00:34:02,784
"Well, if you try out, and if we jam and...
You have to be in the band."
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00:34:02,821 --> 00:34:06,313
Dave called me like, "Remember Taylor?"
I'm like, "Oh yeah."
427
00:34:06,391 --> 00:34:12,352
He's like, "Yeah, I think he'd be the drummer."
And I reacted poorly to that.
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00:34:12,397 --> 00:34:16,629
I was hanging out with Dave and
me and him were bouncing off the walls,
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00:34:16,668 --> 00:34:20,502
and Nate was going, "Oh no,
not another one of these fuckin' guys.
430
00:34:20,538 --> 00:34:22,768
"I can't take two spazzes in one band."
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00:34:22,807 --> 00:34:26,004
I didn't think our personalities were compatible.
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00:34:26,044 --> 00:34:30,606
He's just this, like,
outgoing Southern California surfer dude.
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Say somethin' funny.
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00:34:32,717 --> 00:34:34,685
I don't know anything funny.
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00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,155
I just came from a different world.
I was like, "That guy...
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"He is not a guy I'm gonna be in a band with.
No way."
437
00:34:42,193 --> 00:34:44,161
It's like, "He's really good."
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00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:46,458
"OK."
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00:34:53,538 --> 00:34:56,530
- I hear you got a new drummer?
- Got a new drummer.
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00:34:56,574 --> 00:34:59,202
- From the Alanis Morissette band?
- That's right.
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00:34:59,244 --> 00:35:03,237
His name's Taylor Hawkins, and...
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00:35:03,281 --> 00:35:04,942
Is that his last name?
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00:35:04,983 --> 00:35:06,610
I think it is.
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00:35:06,651 --> 00:35:09,017
- He's really new!
- We just met him.
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00:35:22,133 --> 00:35:23,896
So now Taylor's in the band,
446
00:35:23,935 --> 00:35:26,369
and he comes in his first day of rehearsals,
447
00:35:26,404 --> 00:35:29,464
and Pat quits the band.
448
00:35:29,507 --> 00:35:31,372
Right then and there.
449
00:35:31,409 --> 00:35:36,244
Pat says, "Can I talk to you guys
for a second?" We said, "Yeah, sure."
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We walk outside and he goes,
"I gotta leave the band."
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00:35:41,820 --> 00:35:44,721
I'm like, "What the fuck? Why?"
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00:35:44,756 --> 00:35:48,385
I was just so sick of it.
I was just so sick of the whole thing.
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I didn't wanna go out on another...
you know, bazillion-show tour and...
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I just don't wanna do this anymore.
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00:35:56,401 --> 00:35:58,494
When you join a band the first week,
456
00:35:58,536 --> 00:36:00,504
and one of the members decides...
457
00:36:00,538 --> 00:36:05,237
ever since you've been there, he's gonna quit,
you're like, "Obviously, it's me."
458
00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:08,939
I was shocked. I was shocked.
459
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:11,778
I begged him to stay in the band.
460
00:36:11,816 --> 00:36:15,582
And he said,
"No, man. I'm just not into it anymore."
461
00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:18,646
It was right when we were
about to go out and start our tour,
462
00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:20,715
like, "Here's these new songs."
463
00:36:20,758 --> 00:36:24,785
Pat quits, and so he's kinda got us in a bad...
in a bad spot.
464
00:36:24,829 --> 00:36:28,856
I asked him to stay
until we could get someone to replace him.
465
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:32,336
So we made a deal
that I would tour for six weeks,
466
00:36:32,370 --> 00:36:34,235
till the new guy was ready.
467
00:36:34,272 --> 00:36:37,605
But it stretched out to, I think,
six months maybe.
468
00:36:57,028 --> 00:36:59,428
So Pat has quit the band,
but he's still playing with us.
469
00:36:59,464 --> 00:37:02,900
That gives us some time
to integrate Franz Stahl,
470
00:37:02,934 --> 00:37:04,925
who became
the second guitar player in the band.
471
00:37:04,969 --> 00:37:08,598
I'd known Dave for years.
We grew up in the same city.
472
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,407
He was in my first band,
this punk rock band called Scream.
473
00:37:17,982 --> 00:37:20,849
When I left Scream to join Nirvana,
474
00:37:20,885 --> 00:37:25,515
the one relationship that felt the most strained
was my relationship with Franz.
475
00:37:25,557 --> 00:37:29,584
I think that he resented me for leaving.
476
00:37:30,295 --> 00:37:33,992
It took a while, and then we reconciled
and we became friends again.
477
00:37:34,032 --> 00:37:38,128
That moment where Pat said,
"I don't wanna be in the band anymore,"
478
00:37:38,169 --> 00:37:40,763
I immediately thought,
"I'm gonna call Franz."
479
00:37:41,673 --> 00:37:44,233
I was on tour in Japan
480
00:37:44,275 --> 00:37:47,711
and I get the phone call from Dave
481
00:37:47,745 --> 00:37:52,341
and... he wants to know
if I'd like to join the Foo Fighters.
482
00:37:52,383 --> 00:37:55,511
There wasn't any sort of musical audition.
I just thought,
483
00:37:55,553 --> 00:37:58,579
"Franz, you wanna be in the Foo Fighters?"
He said, "Yes."
484
00:37:58,623 --> 00:38:02,559
And then the next day
I was on the roof of Radio City Music Hall.
485
00:38:02,594 --> 00:38:06,462
Please give a warm welcome to Foo Fighters!
486
00:38:12,370 --> 00:38:16,272
We were playing at the MTV Awards,
on top of the marquee,
487
00:38:16,307 --> 00:38:17,740
as kind of a warm-up act.
488
00:38:17,775 --> 00:38:22,303
And so I played the first song,
and then I quit.
489
00:38:22,347 --> 00:38:24,872
And then Franz came up and he joined.
490
00:38:24,916 --> 00:38:27,043
It happened just so fast.
491
00:38:28,052 --> 00:38:31,988
And I was still jet-lagged from Japan.
492
00:38:32,023 --> 00:38:36,892
Hello! The last song we played
was my last song with the band.
493
00:38:36,928 --> 00:38:41,661
I would like to introduce you to Franz Stahl,
who will be taking over.
494
00:38:41,699 --> 00:38:45,863
Thank you! Rock on, guys!
Foo Fighters!
495
00:38:48,706 --> 00:38:51,869
It was all very new to me,
because I was used to slumming it.
496
00:38:51,909 --> 00:38:55,504
Sleeping on people's floors,
just getting by, you know?
497
00:38:55,546 --> 00:38:57,571
And this was a whole new level.
498
00:38:57,615 --> 00:39:01,346
When I joined the Foo Fighters, it was like,
you know, you made it.
499
00:39:01,386 --> 00:39:06,085
You hit it, and you were getting
recognized for it. It was awesome.
500
00:39:10,294 --> 00:39:14,731
Once Franz joined the band, we did
what we always did, we went on the road.
501
00:39:14,766 --> 00:39:17,599
We played as many places
and as many shows as we could,
502
00:39:17,635 --> 00:39:19,068
and it was starting to grow.
503
00:39:19,103 --> 00:39:21,503
Like, you could see there were 2,000 people,
504
00:39:21,539 --> 00:39:24,565
3,000 people, 4,000 people at gigs.
505
00:39:24,609 --> 00:39:27,806
We were no longer playing
the afternoon slot at the festival,
506
00:39:27,845 --> 00:39:30,211
we were playing the evening slot.
507
00:39:30,248 --> 00:39:32,808
And there was a song on the radio,
Everlong,
508
00:39:32,850 --> 00:39:36,013
and all of a sudden
there were videos on MTV,
509
00:39:36,054 --> 00:39:38,386
and it was happening to us,
510
00:39:38,423 --> 00:39:41,324
that thing that happens to new bands
when they start to get popular.
511
00:39:54,539 --> 00:39:56,473
We got Franz.
512
00:39:56,541 --> 00:39:57,735
I indoctrinated myself.
513
00:39:57,775 --> 00:40:00,073
That's right. Franz joined the band on-air...
514
00:40:00,111 --> 00:40:01,806
That was a great big surprise.
515
00:40:01,846 --> 00:40:04,644
It was awesome.
It's the best year we've had as a band,
516
00:40:04,682 --> 00:40:07,378
and Franz is, you know...
he's the dude.
517
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:14,348
I loved the first two records.
518
00:40:14,392 --> 00:40:18,852
And there wasn't a song
that I didn't enjoy, you know?
519
00:40:18,896 --> 00:40:24,425
And I certainly was looking forward to writing,
520
00:40:24,469 --> 00:40:26,835
and... you know, leaving my mark.
521
00:40:30,842 --> 00:40:32,810
Franz is a great guy.
And a sweet guy.
522
00:40:32,844 --> 00:40:36,007
And I was actually...
got really close with him.
523
00:40:36,047 --> 00:40:37,981
It seemed like it would be perfect.
524
00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:42,884
We were rehearsing and writing
at the time,
525
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,482
and coming up with song ideas...
and Taylor and Nate and I
526
00:40:47,525 --> 00:40:51,017
seemed to have this thing
where we were on the same page,
527
00:40:51,062 --> 00:40:55,465
and we were jamming
and coming up with something together.
528
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,160
And Franz just didn't seem to
find his place in all of that.
529
00:41:01,205 --> 00:41:04,402
In Scream, I wrote all the music,
the majority of it.
530
00:41:04,442 --> 00:41:06,603
My brother would write the lyrics.
531
00:41:06,644 --> 00:41:09,545
So I was always,
I was very hands-on, you know?
532
00:41:09,580 --> 00:41:11,707
But it was Dave's band.
533
00:41:11,749 --> 00:41:13,546
And he writes all the music.
534
00:41:13,618 --> 00:41:16,382
I was kinda leery
of pushing my ideas, you know,
535
00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:21,187
so I wasn't trying to be
as vocal about it.
536
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,627
For some reason,
the four of us together wasn't right.
537
00:41:27,665 --> 00:41:32,693
It never congealed into feeling like a band.
It's just chemistry.
538
00:41:32,737 --> 00:41:35,865
We had a talk with Dave about it
and he didn't wanna hear it,
539
00:41:35,907 --> 00:41:37,932
but he knew what the situation was.
540
00:41:37,975 --> 00:41:42,969
My relationship with Franz was
much different than everybody else's.
541
00:41:43,014 --> 00:41:45,983
I'd known the guy since I was 18.
542
00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:49,679
And we had cut our teeth together.
543
00:41:50,454 --> 00:41:53,787
It was tough, man.
I mean, honestly, like...
544
00:41:53,825 --> 00:41:56,885
It was just, you know,
a great old friend of mine that,
545
00:41:56,928 --> 00:42:00,796
unfortunately,
I was asking to leave the band.
546
00:42:00,865 --> 00:42:03,857
That's not to say he's
not a fucking great musician,
547
00:42:03,935 --> 00:42:06,597
because, of course, everybody knows he is,
548
00:42:06,637 --> 00:42:11,540
but when we worked together as four people...
549
00:42:11,576 --> 00:42:13,976
it just didn't gel, you know?
550
00:42:16,180 --> 00:42:18,273
We got on some kind of conference call
551
00:42:18,316 --> 00:42:21,581
and told him we were
gonna get a different guitar player.
552
00:42:21,619 --> 00:42:25,020
There was a lot of sadness and drama.
It was ugly.
553
00:42:25,056 --> 00:42:27,081
Basically, I got a phone call.
554
00:42:29,393 --> 00:42:31,293
I got a fucking phone call.
555
00:42:32,597 --> 00:42:34,929
And it just all ends right there.
556
00:42:36,434 --> 00:42:39,767
I don't even know how to react,
you know?
557
00:42:39,804 --> 00:42:43,331
There's just no nice way of saying,
"You're out of the band."
558
00:42:46,777 --> 00:42:50,577
I'm not exactly sure what happened.
559
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:54,575
You know, I was in the band...
560
00:42:54,619 --> 00:42:57,247
and, for whatever reason,
I was out of the band.
561
00:42:57,855 --> 00:43:03,725
But, I mean, it was the best two years
of my life, you know?
562
00:43:04,862 --> 00:43:07,330
Most bands go through the same shit
563
00:43:07,365 --> 00:43:11,665
that we had been through
up until that point.
564
00:43:11,702 --> 00:43:13,829
Before anybody's ever heard of them.
565
00:43:13,871 --> 00:43:19,434
Unfortunately, we went through all of
those embarrassing growing pains in public.
566
00:43:21,379 --> 00:43:24,678
By 1998, I would sit down
to do an interview, and people'd say,
567
00:43:24,715 --> 00:43:27,809
"OK, so fuckin'...
Who's in the band right now?
568
00:43:27,852 --> 00:43:30,878
"Has anybody else left
in the last month and a half?"
569
00:43:30,922 --> 00:43:32,753
But there was always Nate.
570
00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:38,026
I was staying at my mother's house,
571
00:43:38,062 --> 00:43:40,030
and I got a call from Nate.
572
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:46,802
I said, "What's up, man?"
He goes, "I gotta leave the band."
573
00:43:46,837 --> 00:43:49,965
And I just thought,
"Oh, Jesus fucking Christ."
574
00:43:50,007 --> 00:43:51,474
I said, "OK."
575
00:43:51,509 --> 00:43:52,976
At this point...
576
00:43:53,010 --> 00:43:56,969
my response to a member leaving
was like, "All right, why?"
577
00:44:00,251 --> 00:44:02,583
Sunny Day Real Estate
had gotten back together.
578
00:44:02,620 --> 00:44:05,487
I had a lot of really formative
experiences with them,
579
00:44:05,523 --> 00:44:07,388
so I had this like...
580
00:44:08,092 --> 00:44:11,994
high-school crush, kind of irrational...
581
00:44:12,029 --> 00:44:15,123
attraction to that project.
582
00:44:16,934 --> 00:44:19,869
And I was tortured, and I called up Dave.
583
00:44:19,904 --> 00:44:21,804
And I was fuckin' pissed.
584
00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:26,105
I think I told him, "OK, you know what?
Call everyone and tell 'em you quit.
585
00:44:26,143 --> 00:44:28,236
"I'm gonna go fuckin' get drunk."
586
00:44:28,279 --> 00:44:31,339
As soon as I got off the phone,
I knew it was the wrong thing to do,
587
00:44:31,382 --> 00:44:34,249
that I was gonna be happier in Foo Fighters.
588
00:44:34,285 --> 00:44:36,412
It was a better thing for me to do.
589
00:44:36,454 --> 00:44:40,049
I called a couple friends...
"I quit the band and I feel weird about it."
590
00:44:40,091 --> 00:44:41,752
"Yeah, 'cause that was a dumb idea."
591
00:44:41,792 --> 00:44:45,387
Me and my buddy Jimmy
took my rental car out to Ribsters,
592
00:44:46,497 --> 00:44:51,059
we got fuckin' shitfaced,
rallied my rental car,
593
00:44:51,102 --> 00:44:54,037
fuckin' threw rocks at it all night,
busted out windows,
594
00:44:54,071 --> 00:44:57,700
drove over people's lawns,
and I wound up stumbling home
595
00:44:57,742 --> 00:45:02,770
and woke up at seven in the morning
in the bedroom that I grew up in as a kid,
596
00:45:02,813 --> 00:45:05,907
with my mom saying,
"David, Nate's on the phone!"
597
00:45:07,952 --> 00:45:09,943
I called him the next morning at 6 am.
598
00:45:09,987 --> 00:45:12,547
I was wigged out
and I think it caught him off guard.
599
00:45:12,590 --> 00:45:15,559
"I don't really wanna quit the band.
I don't know what I was thinking."
600
00:45:15,593 --> 00:45:17,322
He's like, "Good."
601
00:45:17,361 --> 00:45:22,298
I was like, "Yeah.
This is better. Sorry about that."
602
00:45:22,333 --> 00:45:25,131
I was still wasted, too.
I was just lying in bed, like,
603
00:45:25,169 --> 00:45:28,263
"I love you, man.
I'm glad you don't wanna quit."
604
00:45:35,212 --> 00:45:39,945
So we decided that we're gonna make
this next record as a three-piece.
605
00:45:43,821 --> 00:45:46,813
We had just made
this super hyper-produced record,
606
00:45:46,857 --> 00:45:49,121
which we slaved over
and lost two band members.
607
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,722
I thought, "I'm gonna buy a house in Virginia,
build a studio in the basement,
608
00:45:53,764 --> 00:45:57,325
"and we're gonna make this record
without any fuckin' record company
609
00:45:57,368 --> 00:46:00,337
"and no pressure,
and no one telling us what to do."
610
00:46:07,912 --> 00:46:10,540
It was different,
just having the three of us there,
611
00:46:10,581 --> 00:46:13,516
we were starting to form
a good identity for the band.
612
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:31,533
That's when Dave was first starting to become
more comfortable as a lyric writer.
613
00:46:44,482 --> 00:46:48,475
A song like Ain't It The Life,
without realizing what I was doing,
614
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:53,889
I was kind of making this wish list
of all the things in life I wish I had.
615
00:47:04,068 --> 00:47:06,559
We weren't really on a major deadline,
616
00:47:06,604 --> 00:47:11,098
our friend Adam Kasper was down there
engineering and co-producing.
617
00:47:14,245 --> 00:47:16,975
I did all of those vocals sitting on a couch.
618
00:47:17,014 --> 00:47:19,778
It was just a laid-back record, and you hear it.
619
00:47:22,052 --> 00:47:23,246
And the Grammy goes to...
620
00:47:23,287 --> 00:47:24,345
And the Grammy
goes to...
621
00:47:24,388 --> 00:47:26,015
Learn To Fly, Foo Fighters.
622
00:47:26,056 --> 00:47:29,025
There Is Nothing Left To Lose,
Foo Fighters.
623
00:47:29,059 --> 00:47:31,027
We won three Grammys for that record.
624
00:47:31,061 --> 00:47:33,393
I remember standing there
at the podium making the speech,
625
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:36,763
looking out at all those people
in tuxedos and diamonds and shit,
626
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,633
thinking, "I bet you this is
the only record made in a basement
627
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:41,501
"that's gonna win a Grammy this year."
628
00:47:41,539 --> 00:47:43,336
And I was so fuckin' proud.
629
00:47:43,374 --> 00:47:46,138
Take care,
thank you very much, everybody.
630
00:47:48,145 --> 00:47:52,411
Roll camera. OK, and roll sound.
Roll playback!
631
00:47:57,955 --> 00:48:01,288
We take our music really seriously,
but music videos?
632
00:48:01,325 --> 00:48:03,520
They're commercials.
They're candy commercials.
633
00:48:03,561 --> 00:48:07,122
So why not make fun of the process?
634
00:48:13,103 --> 00:48:16,436
But once we got into it,
I started having fun with it.
635
00:48:16,473 --> 00:48:19,931
And it became a trademark for this band.
636
00:48:23,747 --> 00:48:26,079
We try not to take ourselves too seriously.
637
00:48:26,116 --> 00:48:29,244
In videos a lot of times,
you could easily get caught up in that,
638
00:48:29,286 --> 00:48:30,981
"We're playing on a mountaintop."
639
00:48:31,021 --> 00:48:33,387
The wind's blowing in your hair,
640
00:48:33,424 --> 00:48:36,587
and then an eagle flies down
and lands on your shoulder.
641
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:38,525
Or some, you know, like...
642
00:48:52,142 --> 00:48:55,236
I just think that's sort of
an outlet of our humor.
643
00:48:58,115 --> 00:49:02,643
I mean, I've seen Dave do stuff on videos,
where he's bein' such a fuckin' goofball.
644
00:49:02,686 --> 00:49:04,017
I'm not as good at it.
645
00:49:15,633 --> 00:49:18,693
You know, I did try to make us a trio.
646
00:49:18,736 --> 00:49:21,330
Dude, Police! They're a trio!
647
00:49:21,372 --> 00:49:25,365
Musically, we needed more.
More guitar.
648
00:49:25,409 --> 00:49:30,108
Part of the sound of the Foo Fighters
is a lot of guitars. It's just part of the sound.
649
00:49:30,147 --> 00:49:32,206
We argue about it
every time we mix a record,
650
00:49:32,249 --> 00:49:34,911
'cause I always want the drums louder,
and Dave's like,
651
00:49:34,952 --> 00:49:37,284
"It's the Foo Fighters.
The guitars are really loud."
652
00:49:37,321 --> 00:49:40,017
None of us had the right guy that was a friend,
653
00:49:40,057 --> 00:49:42,389
or a friend of a friend...
It wasn't handy.
654
00:49:42,426 --> 00:49:45,224
So we had to have open auditions
for a guitar player.
655
00:49:45,262 --> 00:49:49,198
Pin a note at the Guitar Center, like,
"Guitar player wanted for Foo Fighters."
656
00:49:49,233 --> 00:49:51,167
We wound up in this rehearsal space,
657
00:49:51,201 --> 00:49:54,932
and I just remember
this line of guitar players.
658
00:49:54,972 --> 00:49:57,065
And I was terrified.
659
00:49:59,343 --> 00:50:03,040
It sounded great. I mean, I dig it.
Nice meeting you for the first time.
660
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,605
Hopefully see you again soon.
661
00:50:05,649 --> 00:50:07,549
There's the guy that came in
and hugged everybody.
662
00:50:07,584 --> 00:50:11,987
It was like, "Hi. Hi."
It was like...
663
00:50:12,956 --> 00:50:15,982
There was one kid that came in,
he was so nervous.
664
00:50:16,026 --> 00:50:19,484
He came in, and was like, "What's up?
Will you sign something for me?"
665
00:50:19,530 --> 00:50:22,556
He just immediately wanted us
to sign some shit.
666
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:26,467
We were like, "Yeah, dude, cool it.
It's cool, you know? Just relax.
667
00:50:26,503 --> 00:50:28,596
"Let's hang, you know? Let's talk."
668
00:50:29,506 --> 00:50:32,100
And we hung out and talked a little bit.
669
00:50:32,142 --> 00:50:35,873
And then he went to open up his guitar case,
and it was locked.
670
00:50:35,913 --> 00:50:39,679
He had a brand new guitar,
a brand new case,
671
00:50:39,717 --> 00:50:43,209
and he fucking locked his guitar in it.
672
00:50:43,253 --> 00:50:45,050
And didn't have a key.
673
00:50:47,991 --> 00:50:51,290
We literally did, like,
a week or two of tryouts.
674
00:50:51,328 --> 00:50:54,695
There was one point where it was getting
a little dire, we were like, "Fuck!"
675
00:50:54,732 --> 00:50:57,633
A good friend of mine called me and said,
676
00:50:57,668 --> 00:51:01,798
"Hey, I heard Guns N' Roses
are auditioning guitar players,
677
00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:04,273
"and I think I could get you an audition."
678
00:51:04,308 --> 00:51:07,937
And I was like, "Well, I don't wanna audition
for Guns N' Roses."
679
00:51:07,978 --> 00:51:11,436
But I said, "But I heard the Foo Fighters
guitar player quit.
680
00:51:11,482 --> 00:51:14,178
"Try to get me an audition with Foo Fighters."
681
00:51:14,218 --> 00:51:16,083
Everyone, shake hands with Chris.
682
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,144
Chris!
683
00:51:19,056 --> 00:51:22,116
When Chris came in to audition,
684
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:25,322
we somehow came to the realization
685
00:51:25,362 --> 00:51:31,528
that we met when we were kids
at a punk rock show in Santa Barbara.
686
00:51:31,568 --> 00:51:33,729
Years and years before any of this,
687
00:51:33,771 --> 00:51:36,433
when Dave had been the drummer in Scream,
688
00:51:36,473 --> 00:51:39,135
and I was playing bass
in a band called Rat Pack.
689
00:51:39,176 --> 00:51:40,871
We actually opened up for them.
690
00:51:40,911 --> 00:51:45,371
The fact that he was a part of
that underground punk rock thing
691
00:51:45,416 --> 00:51:46,906
was really important to me.
692
00:51:56,460 --> 00:52:00,191
So we bonded pretty instantly,
because I thought,
693
00:52:00,230 --> 00:52:05,759
"He's gonna get it. He's gonna understand,
and he won't take this shit for granted."
694
00:52:11,375 --> 00:52:13,002
Very good, that's very good, man.
695
00:52:18,749 --> 00:52:22,344
He could sing, and he was a shredder,
and he was a good guy,
696
00:52:22,386 --> 00:52:25,378
and he'd been in bands,
697
00:52:25,422 --> 00:52:28,448
and he didn't smell,
and he was awesome.
698
00:52:28,492 --> 00:52:31,928
So the next day, just all day,
I just sat there by the phone.
699
00:52:31,962 --> 00:52:34,726
And at like, around five or six,
the phone rang
700
00:52:34,765 --> 00:52:36,995
and it was Dave and Taylor.
And they said,
701
00:52:37,034 --> 00:52:41,232
"All right, you know, you got the gig.
We start rehearsing tomorrow.
702
00:52:41,271 --> 00:52:44,763
"Say goodbye to your friends, you're not
gonna see anybody for the next year."
703
00:52:44,808 --> 00:52:48,107
It was like, Chris joined the band
and we had our itinerary ready to go.
704
00:52:48,145 --> 00:52:50,909
"Ready? We're gonna leave for ten years.
Let's go."
705
00:52:50,948 --> 00:52:53,712
The Foos found their new best buddy
in Chris Shiflett,
706
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:57,311
a former member of punk bands
No Use For A Name and 22 Jacks.
707
00:52:57,354 --> 00:53:00,118
I remember wanting
to help Chris feel comfortable.
708
00:53:00,157 --> 00:53:02,421
We went out to dinner a couple of times.
709
00:53:02,459 --> 00:53:06,156
Trying not to have a situation
where he comes in and it's like, "OK, go!"
710
00:53:06,196 --> 00:53:09,461
When I joined Nirvana,
I was the fifth drummer of Nirvana.
711
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:12,958
With Chris, it was maybe the same way,
you know?
712
00:53:13,003 --> 00:53:15,471
He was the third guitar player
of the Foo Fighters.
713
00:53:15,506 --> 00:53:20,000
In the early days of being in the band
I didn't wanna step on anybody's toes.
714
00:53:20,043 --> 00:53:23,604
I didn't even know what...
I didn't know what my place was.
715
00:53:23,647 --> 00:53:28,448
And I was just genuinely, like,
this was everything that I ever wanted -
716
00:53:28,485 --> 00:53:29,850
the dream coming true.
717
00:53:36,260 --> 00:53:39,286
Every time Foo Fighters
would put out a record,
718
00:53:39,329 --> 00:53:42,958
I would get really excited
and miss it so bad.
719
00:53:47,237 --> 00:53:50,297
I found out after being in the band
for a couple months
720
00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:53,104
that they had almost replaced me with Pat.
721
00:53:53,176 --> 00:53:54,973
Pat almost came back,
722
00:53:55,012 --> 00:53:57,845
who they had a lot of history with,
and there was a relationship there.
723
00:53:57,881 --> 00:54:01,339
Dave didn't know that I knew that,
and probably most of them didn't.
724
00:54:01,385 --> 00:54:06,516
There was at least a couple times where
I called Dave and said, "I want back."
725
00:54:06,557 --> 00:54:09,526
Then when it looked like it might
actually happen, I got scared.
726
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,223
After being in the band for a couple months,
I had this feeling,
727
00:54:13,263 --> 00:54:17,256
"This could all end,
and I'm gonna enjoy this while it lasts.
728
00:54:17,301 --> 00:54:20,828
"Because it probably will end
sooner than I want it to."
729
00:54:24,207 --> 00:54:28,667
That third record, we went on the road
with the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
730
00:54:29,846 --> 00:54:32,679
For, like, four months
we toured America with them.
731
00:54:34,718 --> 00:54:36,345
We had never played arenas before.
732
00:54:36,386 --> 00:54:38,877
We hadn't done that arena rock thing.
733
00:54:46,563 --> 00:54:50,021
That's when we started
coming up with jams onstage
734
00:54:50,067 --> 00:54:52,433
and working out, like, a show.
735
00:54:52,469 --> 00:54:55,461
Not a "show,"
not dancers and shit in the show,
736
00:54:55,505 --> 00:55:00,067
but really like kinda work out a good set.
So that it's impressive.
737
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,046
Taylor really drove that home.
It was great.
738
00:55:06,083 --> 00:55:10,076
That changed the band, probably, forever
and made us concentrate more
739
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,951
on really playing together.
740
00:55:11,989 --> 00:55:16,653
We had a stage setup
that we had built for the arena.
741
00:55:16,693 --> 00:55:20,322
It was basically modeled after
the Queen Live Killers record cover,
742
00:55:20,364 --> 00:55:21,729
it was very seventies.
743
00:55:21,765 --> 00:55:25,394
Hi. This is our dressing room,
where we get dressed before we play.
744
00:55:25,435 --> 00:55:27,665
And we had these little uniforms set.
745
00:55:27,704 --> 00:55:29,604
And we brought a wardrobe case
746
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,134
Everything was red and black, or white.
That was our color theme for the tour.
747
00:55:34,177 --> 00:55:37,374
It was the first time we thought
in terms of something like,
748
00:55:37,414 --> 00:55:39,507
"Let's look a certain way on stage."
749
00:55:39,549 --> 00:55:42,074
I had the black shirt with white tie
and black pants.
750
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:44,280
Nate had the red shirt with black tie and...
751
00:55:44,321 --> 00:55:47,119
We looked like Kraftwerk
or something like that.
752
00:55:47,157 --> 00:55:49,091
We were... It was silly, really.
753
00:55:50,794 --> 00:55:54,628
But we put on this show,
and we fuckin' killed it.
754
00:55:59,736 --> 00:56:04,503
OK, we'll see you guys in a town near you,
I hope very soon.
755
00:56:04,541 --> 00:56:06,532
Take care and...
756
00:56:07,611 --> 00:56:08,737
I love you.
757
00:56:20,357 --> 00:56:25,090
It just stands to reason no matter how great
a thing that your life or your job is,
758
00:56:25,128 --> 00:56:27,323
after a while, you need a break.
759
00:56:35,772 --> 00:56:38,400
That was fun
until after two months of doing it.
760
00:56:38,442 --> 00:56:41,434
It feels like Groundhog Day,
all those arenas look the same.
761
00:56:41,478 --> 00:56:44,879
You start bringing the bottle of whisky
to the stage with you.
762
00:56:48,952 --> 00:56:52,854
It started with, "Let's do a shot
before we play." We'd call it "band prayer".
763
00:56:52,889 --> 00:56:57,121
Then that turned into like,
"Let's do ten shots before we play."
764
00:56:59,996 --> 00:57:03,591
And we all started gettin' fuckin' hammered
before we went onstage.
765
00:57:04,501 --> 00:57:06,992
And we got really shitty by the end.
766
00:57:09,606 --> 00:57:14,873
I think that's probably why so many musicians
wind up getting so fucked up,
767
00:57:14,911 --> 00:57:18,176
just 'cause you need something to keep it fun.
768
00:57:20,517 --> 00:57:23,247
Taylor had been struggling with...
769
00:57:24,020 --> 00:57:25,851
with drugs, I think.
770
00:57:26,590 --> 00:57:28,956
He and I had talked about it a few times.
771
00:57:28,992 --> 00:57:33,725
I didn't really know how to deal
with the way you were supposed to be.
772
00:57:33,764 --> 00:57:39,725
I thought that to be a rock 'n' roller
you have to be the fuckin' Keith Richards.
773
00:57:39,770 --> 00:57:43,433
You have to be the dark, partying, fuckin'...
the real deal.
774
00:57:45,041 --> 00:57:48,499
That's the only way it's real rock 'n' roll.
775
00:57:48,545 --> 00:57:49,204
Rock 'n' roll!
776
00:57:49,246 --> 00:57:53,842
I would tell him, I'd say,
"You know, dude, I love you like a brother.
777
00:57:55,118 --> 00:57:58,110
"I'm not a cop. I'm not your dad, whatever.
778
00:57:58,155 --> 00:58:00,953
"But I'm worried about you, you know?"
779
00:58:06,763 --> 00:58:08,253
We were in London,
780
00:58:08,298 --> 00:58:11,756
and we all went out to a bar
across the street from the hotel.
781
00:58:11,802 --> 00:58:14,999
We were having a good time,
and I came back to my room early.
782
00:58:16,273 --> 00:58:21,267
And in the morning I got a call
that he was on his way to the hospital.
783
00:58:22,579 --> 00:58:26,777
We got word that Taylor's in a coma
at the hospital,
784
00:58:26,817 --> 00:58:29,479
and OD'd on, you know,
whatever it was.
785
00:58:29,519 --> 00:58:31,544
I think it was heroin that he did.
786
00:58:32,923 --> 00:58:38,520
And our sound man at the time,
he was like, "Oh yeah, Taylor fucked up.
787
00:58:38,562 --> 00:58:41,326
"He's gonna die, like, he's fuckin' dead."
788
00:58:44,801 --> 00:58:49,670
It was so weird, like, he hadn't died,
but he had overdosed.
789
00:58:50,740 --> 00:58:52,071
And...
790
00:58:53,777 --> 00:58:56,473
I just felt so totally helpless,
you know?
791
00:59:14,564 --> 00:59:16,464
What sort of things do you demand on tour?
792
00:59:16,499 --> 00:59:18,490
Instruments.
793
00:59:20,437 --> 00:59:22,632
So I sat with him...
794
00:59:22,672 --> 00:59:25,402
for those couple weeks.
795
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:28,769
Until he woke up.
796
00:59:28,812 --> 00:59:32,213
And when he woke up,
797
00:59:32,249 --> 00:59:35,184
I said to him,
"Dude, it's gonna be OK."
798
00:59:35,218 --> 00:59:38,312
And he looked at me and he said, "Fuck off!"
799
00:59:38,355 --> 00:59:42,189
And I thought,
"Oh, good, everything's gonna be OK."
800
00:59:42,225 --> 00:59:43,487
Dave's my best friend.
801
00:59:43,526 --> 00:59:47,929
And even more than a best friend,
he's like a brother. He really is.
802
00:59:47,964 --> 00:59:51,229
And, yeah, he was...
as I would be with him,
803
00:59:52,002 --> 00:59:56,268
if something happened to Dave
where he was on the brink of death,
804
00:59:56,339 --> 00:59:59,035
I would be losing my mind.
805
00:59:59,075 --> 01:00:01,009
And he was losing his mind.
806
01:00:05,382 --> 01:00:09,318
So we get back from London
after my fuckin' OD,
807
01:00:09,352 --> 01:00:13,812
and then two months after that,
we start trying to make this record.
808
01:00:13,857 --> 01:00:17,918
But we weren't ready.
And nobody's really into it.
809
01:00:18,528 --> 01:00:20,393
Everyone's playing half-assed.
810
01:00:20,430 --> 01:00:23,297
I'd do something
and Dave would listen and say,
811
01:00:23,333 --> 01:00:27,463
"This has gotta change. This is not working
with the vocals. That's too busy."
812
01:00:27,504 --> 01:00:30,473
I was disagreeing.
I had a shitty attitude 'cause I was pissed.
813
01:00:30,507 --> 01:00:33,635
It was bizarre.
It was my first record with the band.
814
01:00:33,677 --> 01:00:36,441
And I was just
showing up to the studio every day
815
01:00:36,479 --> 01:00:40,779
and was sort of confused, like,
"It's weird, I'm never playing on this.
816
01:00:40,817 --> 01:00:43,809
"I show up at noon every day
and I kinda sit here
817
01:00:43,853 --> 01:00:47,914
"and I eat food and drink coffee
and then I go home.
818
01:00:47,958 --> 01:00:49,220
"What is this?"
819
01:00:49,259 --> 01:00:51,056
There's starting to...
820
01:00:51,094 --> 01:00:53,392
There's a little bit of infighting
821
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:56,991
and whispers of, "Blah-blah's pissed
at blah-blah about wah-dah."
822
01:00:57,033 --> 01:00:59,524
And the vibes just were not happening.
823
01:00:59,569 --> 01:01:02,663
Dave's like, "I feel like you guys
are taking the band for granted.
824
01:01:02,706 --> 01:01:06,107
"It's just, show up, make a record,
and go on and do our thing.
825
01:01:06,142 --> 01:01:09,771
"There's no... You don't have
to show up with a passion for it."
826
01:01:09,813 --> 01:01:10,802
And he had a point.
827
01:01:10,847 --> 01:01:16,808
I would walk in,
listen to what we have, and think,
828
01:01:16,853 --> 01:01:20,448
"I don't really know
if I want anyone to hear this."
829
01:01:20,490 --> 01:01:23,721
The making of that record was a fuckin'...
It sucked.
830
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,728
We finished it, and...
831
01:01:25,762 --> 01:01:28,697
we gave it to our manager, John Silva,
832
01:01:28,732 --> 01:01:31,326
and he was like,
"Well, we could put this out,
833
01:01:31,368 --> 01:01:34,929
"but I don't know if we're gonna be able
to sell any of them."
834
01:01:43,246 --> 01:01:44,474
Immediately following that,
835
01:01:44,514 --> 01:01:47,142
Dave had done a record with
Queens of the Stone Age as their drummer,
836
01:01:47,183 --> 01:01:49,208
and went out and toured on that record.
837
01:01:49,252 --> 01:01:51,152
And was like, "I'm gonna go do this.
838
01:01:51,187 --> 01:01:56,284
"We'll figure out what we're gonna do about
this record that didn't work later."
839
01:01:57,127 --> 01:02:00,028
Dave's not happy with the record
and he wants to shelve it.
840
01:02:00,063 --> 01:02:02,861
And he's also gonna go on tour
with Queens of the Stone Age.
841
01:02:02,899 --> 01:02:06,596
And so it was kind of like,
"Whoa. He's doing what?
842
01:02:06,636 --> 01:02:09,833
"You know, what are we doing again?
What did you say?"
843
01:02:14,911 --> 01:02:17,937
I just started to think that we should stop.
844
01:02:18,815 --> 01:02:20,715
"I don't have to be here,
845
01:02:20,750 --> 01:02:24,550
"and I really fuckin' love
doing this other thing, so...
846
01:02:25,722 --> 01:02:26,711
"fuck it."
847
01:02:26,756 --> 01:02:29,953
He went off with Queens,
and that went on for a little while.
848
01:02:29,993 --> 01:02:33,326
Then we got together to rehearse,
to go play Coachella.
849
01:02:33,363 --> 01:02:35,957
We were signed on to do this show,
850
01:02:35,999 --> 01:02:38,297
where Dave was playing with Queens
the day before,
851
01:02:38,334 --> 01:02:39,631
and then we were playing.
852
01:02:39,669 --> 01:02:41,193
There was so much tension.
853
01:02:41,237 --> 01:02:44,832
Nobody was talking, and we were
just rehearsing to get through these songs.
854
01:02:44,874 --> 01:02:47,365
God bless him, Chris at one point in time
in the rehearsal just goes,
855
01:02:47,410 --> 01:02:49,139
"I don't know if I'm the only one,
856
01:02:49,179 --> 01:02:51,807
"but you could cut the air in here
with a fuckin' knife.
857
01:02:51,848 --> 01:02:53,873
"What the fuck's goin' on?"
Then it was just on.
858
01:02:53,917 --> 01:02:58,320
We had this big fight,
one of the biggest arguments we've ever had.
859
01:02:58,354 --> 01:03:00,117
It was mostly between Taylor and Dave.
860
01:03:00,156 --> 01:03:03,717
They had it out, like this serious discussion.
Stuff that had been pent up.
861
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,560
When I went to play drums with Queens
of the Stone Age, Taylor resented me for that.
862
01:03:07,597 --> 01:03:09,656
What bands are you listening to now?
863
01:03:09,699 --> 01:03:13,260
The new Queens of the Stone Age CD
is amazing, everybody knows that.
864
01:03:13,303 --> 01:03:15,863
He was really upset that
I didn't come see him play drums
865
01:03:15,905 --> 01:03:19,341
and how exciting it was
for him to be back onstage
866
01:03:19,375 --> 01:03:23,812
playing with another band.
I just went through this awful trauma,
867
01:03:23,847 --> 01:03:26,475
and I was supposed to be happy
868
01:03:26,549 --> 01:03:30,144
that Dave's having such a good time.
But I wasn't, you know?
869
01:03:30,186 --> 01:03:33,485
"I'm not fucking happy
for you to go play with another band.
870
01:03:33,523 --> 01:03:36,048
"Why should I be happy for that?"
871
01:03:36,092 --> 01:03:38,856
So Dave was trying to write
the set list for the show,
872
01:03:38,895 --> 01:03:40,886
and we had an argument about it, just,
873
01:03:40,930 --> 01:03:44,388
"You're a fuckin' asshole."
"If you don't like it, you can leave!"
874
01:03:44,434 --> 01:03:48,393
And the next day, I said,
"I will be leaving. As soon as we finish this.
875
01:03:48,438 --> 01:03:51,168
"As soon as we play Coachella
and finish this record,
876
01:03:51,207 --> 01:03:53,573
"do whatever commitments we have,
I'm out of here."
877
01:03:53,610 --> 01:03:56,374
"Look, let's go and do this show,
878
01:03:56,412 --> 01:03:59,108
"and if we never wanna do it again,
then let's not."
879
01:03:59,149 --> 01:04:03,017
"The Foo Fighters are over.
And I'm OK with that."
880
01:04:03,052 --> 01:04:06,715
"OK. That's it. Oh well."
881
01:04:13,530 --> 01:04:15,464
I played two nights at that Coachella.
882
01:04:15,498 --> 01:04:19,366
One with the Foo Fighters,
and one with Queens of the Stone Age.
883
01:04:19,402 --> 01:04:23,930
And Taylor sat and watched Queens
of the Stone Age that night, at Coachella.
884
01:04:24,841 --> 01:04:27,605
At that point, I was OK with it.
I didn't care anymore.
885
01:04:27,644 --> 01:04:31,512
I was like, "Well, this is probably
our last show, so, you know,
886
01:04:31,548 --> 01:04:35,245
"maybe Dave will just end up being
Queens of the Stone Age drummer for now
887
01:04:35,285 --> 01:04:37,685
"or whatever,
and that'll be what it is."
888
01:04:39,889 --> 01:04:42,449
And then we played the next day
and we played great.
889
01:04:49,098 --> 01:04:53,057
Dave was like, a new front man
in front of 10,000, 20,000 people,
890
01:04:53,102 --> 01:04:55,070
however big that fuckin' thing is.
891
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,973
It was really good.
After that, me and Dave went for a walk.
892
01:05:01,010 --> 01:05:06,175
And he said, "Let's go back to Virginia,
record a couple songs."
893
01:05:06,216 --> 01:05:11,745
We made a plan to meet and just jam,
see what happens.
894
01:05:11,788 --> 01:05:14,985
I said, "I have this new song.
It's called Times Like These."
895
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:29,467
Times Like These was basically written
896
01:05:29,505 --> 01:05:32,770
about the band disappearing
for those two or three months.
897
01:05:32,809 --> 01:05:37,405
And me feeling like I wasn't entirely myself.
898
01:05:52,762 --> 01:05:56,323
I just thought,
"OK. I'm not done being in the band.
899
01:05:56,366 --> 01:05:58,630
"I don't know if they are, but I'm not."
900
01:05:59,902 --> 01:06:03,565
It wasn't too long before Dave was excited
to get back to work on the record.
901
01:06:03,606 --> 01:06:05,767
We just started picking all the songs
902
01:06:05,808 --> 01:06:08,333
and going, "Let's re-record that.
We have a week."
903
01:06:08,378 --> 01:06:12,109
And we re-recorded the album
in seven days in my basement.
904
01:06:16,019 --> 01:06:19,045
It was all finished really quickly,
and it had the passion,
905
01:06:19,088 --> 01:06:23,115
it had the feel and sound that was like...
a record we could be proud of.
906
01:06:23,159 --> 01:06:28,392
I remember that being like, the turning point.
Like, "OK, this isn't ending."
907
01:06:32,735 --> 01:06:35,863
We had already spent
three months and a million dollars
908
01:06:35,938 --> 01:06:38,406
on something that we threw away.
909
01:06:38,441 --> 01:06:44,175
The difference between
All My Life and All My Life
910
01:06:44,213 --> 01:06:50,812
was that this one cost a million dollars
and sounded like crap.
911
01:06:50,853 --> 01:06:53,947
This one,
we did in my basement in half an hour
912
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:57,391
and became the biggest fuckin' song
the band ever had.
913
01:07:12,875 --> 01:07:16,003
It was a big record, you know?
Millions of people bought it.
914
01:07:16,045 --> 01:07:19,674
All My Life we just have to play
when we play gigs.
915
01:07:19,716 --> 01:07:22,685
To this day, that's by far
my favorite song to play live.
916
01:07:22,719 --> 01:07:25,415
Every night, good or bad show,
it doesn't matter,
917
01:07:25,455 --> 01:07:29,118
when you get to that part of the set,
it always goes bananas.
918
01:07:29,192 --> 01:07:32,389
If you're having a bad show,
that's the turning point every night.
919
01:07:42,605 --> 01:07:45,597
Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome the Foo Fighters!
920
01:07:46,609 --> 01:07:49,271
Ladies and gentlemen, Foo Fighters.
921
01:07:49,312 --> 01:07:52,406
Please welcome back to the program,
Foo Fighters.
922
01:07:52,749 --> 01:07:53,943
Foo Fighters!
923
01:07:55,118 --> 01:07:57,211
Ladies and gentlemen, Foo Fighters!
924
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,634
We barely got through making a record,
925
01:08:18,674 --> 01:08:21,404
and then started kinda
going up the ranks as a live band.
926
01:08:21,444 --> 01:08:24,174
We didn't have huge success
right up front.
927
01:08:24,213 --> 01:08:28,081
It's been little milestones of things
we've been asked to do and been able to do.
928
01:08:28,117 --> 01:08:30,984
It was a fun time.
We were doing these great tours,
929
01:08:31,020 --> 01:08:34,683
and the shows were getting bigger,
and we were on a good roll.
930
01:08:36,058 --> 01:08:39,357
We'd get asked to play on the MTV Awards,
and we'd show up,
931
01:08:39,395 --> 01:08:41,955
and we'd be
the only fuckin' rock band there.
932
01:08:41,998 --> 01:08:47,163
So it'd be like us and fuckin' boy bands,
girl bands, rappers, solo artists.
933
01:08:47,203 --> 01:08:49,671
After a while we got suspicious, like,
934
01:08:49,705 --> 01:08:53,698
"Wait a minute, do they know who we are
or do they just need a rock band?"
935
01:09:05,488 --> 01:09:06,750
Thank you.
936
01:09:19,302 --> 01:09:20,769
After One By One,
937
01:09:20,803 --> 01:09:25,035
I went home and started demoing
all this really delicate acoustic music.
938
01:09:28,244 --> 01:09:30,576
I thought, "Let's make an album
939
01:09:30,613 --> 01:09:35,312
"where you have one CD
that's all the really heavy rock shit,
940
01:09:35,351 --> 01:09:36,648
"then you have another CD
941
01:09:36,686 --> 01:09:41,123
"that's really beautiful
acoustic-based, lower dynamic stuff."
942
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,123
And we'll tour for six or seven months
on the rock record,
943
01:09:47,163 --> 01:09:50,462
then go out on this theatre tour
doing the acoustic shows.
944
01:09:55,204 --> 01:09:58,401
Since the acoustic record
had additional instrumentation,
945
01:09:58,841 --> 01:10:01,207
I thought, "We need a bigger band."
946
01:10:01,944 --> 01:10:03,844
I always had in the back of my mind
947
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,611
that someday I'll get to come
and play along with them.
948
01:10:09,085 --> 01:10:11,747
And in 2006, Dave called me and said,
949
01:10:11,787 --> 01:10:14,051
"Come out and do
this acoustic tour with me."
950
01:10:16,959 --> 01:10:18,551
I didn't actually know Pat,
951
01:10:18,594 --> 01:10:22,997
but I was aware that there'd been
a couple times through the years
952
01:10:23,032 --> 01:10:25,193
when Dave had almost brought him back.
953
01:10:25,234 --> 01:10:29,000
And so, to me, Pat was just a guy
that wanted my job.
954
01:10:29,038 --> 01:10:33,475
So when I found out about that, I was just like,
"You gotta be fuckin' kidding me."
955
01:10:36,445 --> 01:10:39,414
Pat is a Foo Fighter,
whether he's in the band or not.
956
01:10:39,448 --> 01:10:43,782
He and I have gone through a lot together.
Pat should be in the band.
957
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,011
I definitely thought
it must be awkward for Chris.
958
01:10:47,056 --> 01:10:51,220
So I felt awkward only in that...
"I hope this isn't awkward for you."
959
01:11:00,937 --> 01:11:04,031
The first rehearsal, Pat showed up,
960
01:11:04,073 --> 01:11:06,906
and we actually instantly hit it off,
you know?
961
01:11:06,943 --> 01:11:10,640
I sorta got to be friends with him
over the course of doing those shows.
962
01:11:14,150 --> 01:11:18,246
Clive Davis came to see us play
at one of the acoustic gigs,
963
01:11:18,287 --> 01:11:21,882
and I said, "I think it'd be so cool
if we were that band
964
01:11:21,924 --> 01:11:26,190
"where we did the rock show and
we had all the people that love the rock show,
965
01:11:26,228 --> 01:11:29,322
"and we did the acoustic show and had
all the people that love the acoustic show,
966
01:11:29,365 --> 01:11:31,959
"and they wouldn't necessarily
have to go to both."
967
01:11:32,001 --> 01:11:36,734
And Clive was like,
"Yes, but you can do both together."
968
01:11:36,772 --> 01:11:41,072
In a total Yoda moment.
I was like, "Oh my God, you're right!"
969
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:44,841
And that was the next album,
Echoes, Silence, Patience, & Grace.
970
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,316
Those songs were basically just that.
971
01:11:48,351 --> 01:11:52,617
So that tour and that album before
totally shaped the one that happened after.
972
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:46,561
We were at a point in our career where
we thought things couldn't get any bigger.
973
01:13:46,602 --> 01:13:49,765
We've headlined these festivals,
played these arenas.
974
01:13:49,805 --> 01:13:52,672
We're perfectly happy
with the way things are.
975
01:13:53,242 --> 01:13:57,178
And then John Silva said,
"You guys wanna play Wembley Stadium?"
976
01:13:57,713 --> 01:14:01,479
And I said, "Fuck.
OK, but wait, how big is that place?"
977
01:14:01,517 --> 01:14:05,647
When you do something like that
you put it on sale six months ahead of time
978
01:14:05,688 --> 01:14:08,486
because that's a lot of tickets -
85,000 people.
979
01:14:08,524 --> 01:14:11,288
You need six months
to get rid of all those tickets.
980
01:14:11,327 --> 01:14:15,127
And we sold it out.
I couldn't believe it.
981
01:14:15,164 --> 01:14:19,430
So we put another one on sale,
and it sold out in, like, a few days.
982
01:14:19,468 --> 01:14:23,529
When it sold out like it did,
I think everybody in the band was just like,
983
01:14:23,572 --> 01:14:25,233
"What the fuck?
How did that happen?"
984
01:14:25,274 --> 01:14:28,038
It was this huge responsibility,
this great thing like,
985
01:14:28,077 --> 01:14:31,376
"All right. It's our turn now,
like, we have to make it great."
986
01:14:32,248 --> 01:14:35,115
It was six months
until we had to play the show.
987
01:14:35,751 --> 01:14:40,245
Every night before I went to sleep
for six months, I'd think,
988
01:14:40,289 --> 01:14:42,655
"My God,
I have to play fuckin' Wembley Stadium."
989
01:14:42,691 --> 01:14:45,592
Then I'd wake up in the morning,
like, "We're playing Wembley!"
990
01:15:00,709 --> 01:15:02,870
Wembley is so big,
991
01:15:02,912 --> 01:15:07,645
and it's like this sort of
monster bowl you're playing.
992
01:15:07,683 --> 01:15:11,881
It's just sort of the weight
and the responsibility I put on myself
993
01:15:11,921 --> 01:15:14,253
for a show like that, it's intense.
994
01:15:19,662 --> 01:15:22,995
I remember before the first show,
I was so nervous,
995
01:15:23,032 --> 01:15:26,695
and I somehow got hot sauce
in my eye backstage,
996
01:15:26,735 --> 01:15:27,963
right before we went on,
997
01:15:28,003 --> 01:15:32,303
I was just, "Why now?
Why did this have to happen now?"
998
01:15:32,341 --> 01:15:35,174
You don't just go,
"Yay, they asked us to do this thing
999
01:15:35,211 --> 01:15:38,942
"and we're gonna go and do our best
and see what happens."
1000
01:15:38,981 --> 01:15:42,815
You wanna make sure it becomes
the most memorable show you've done.
1001
01:15:42,885 --> 01:15:45,376
And know that you killed it.
1002
01:15:52,628 --> 01:15:55,597
It was nerve-wracking,
because it's Wembley Stadium.
1003
01:15:55,631 --> 01:15:59,567
And if you've ever been there,
it's so fucking huge.
1004
01:15:59,602 --> 01:16:01,069
It's like an illusion.
1005
01:16:02,204 --> 01:16:06,698
How the fuck did this band
get this fuckin' big?
1006
01:16:06,742 --> 01:16:08,937
Can you tell me that?
1007
01:16:55,391 --> 01:16:58,224
When you have 20,000 people
1008
01:16:58,260 --> 01:17:00,854
and there's nosebleeds
that are so far away,
1009
01:17:00,896 --> 01:17:04,696
you wanna be able to bring everybody in.
1010
01:17:04,733 --> 01:17:07,930
I want the people up there to feel
like they're right there.
1011
01:19:25,407 --> 01:19:28,774
You'd imagine that after playing something
like Wembley Stadium
1012
01:19:28,811 --> 01:19:32,542
and playing to 85,000 people,
"God, what do we do now?"
1013
01:19:32,581 --> 01:19:33,946
Yeah, it's good.
1014
01:19:33,982 --> 01:19:38,385
It's the same way with records, in a way.
This is our seventh record.
1015
01:19:38,420 --> 01:19:42,254
What could we possibly do that's different
than the last thing we had done?
1016
01:19:43,792 --> 01:19:47,455
And I thought, "Well...
I wanna do the next one in the garage."
1017
01:19:52,334 --> 01:19:56,498
It's about making records
the way we used to fucking make records.
1018
01:19:56,538 --> 01:19:59,200
But let's do it with Butch Vig
so it's fucking huge.
1019
01:20:03,412 --> 01:20:09,408
Butch Vig is probably most well known
for doing Nevermind, the Nirvana record.
1020
01:20:09,451 --> 01:20:12,284
But he's done
a ton of stuff through the years.
1021
01:20:12,321 --> 01:20:15,017
He did the last Green Day record
and he was in Garbage,
1022
01:20:15,057 --> 01:20:18,925
and he's been
a working producer for a long time.
1023
01:20:18,961 --> 01:20:22,829
Dave said, "I wanna make
the record in my garage."
1024
01:20:22,865 --> 01:20:27,768
And then he said, "What do you think
about making the record on tape?"
1025
01:20:29,104 --> 01:20:32,938
I wanna get away
from what people think we should do.
1026
01:20:34,710 --> 01:20:36,575
I learned how to make records on tape.
1027
01:20:36,612 --> 01:20:39,513
And there's something
about that process that I love,
1028
01:20:39,548 --> 01:20:44,042
but you can't fix things like
when you're working purely in a digital format.
1029
01:20:44,086 --> 01:20:46,520
That's the first thing I said to the band.
1030
01:20:46,555 --> 01:20:49,820
"If we're gonna do this on tape,
you guys have to play really well.
1031
01:20:49,858 --> 01:20:51,758
"Because nothing's gonna be fixed."
1032
01:20:54,730 --> 01:20:57,460
I think most people have an idea
of how records are made.
1033
01:20:57,499 --> 01:21:00,662
They're made on computers.
You can do whatever with computers,
1034
01:21:00,702 --> 01:21:02,897
but we all grew up
making records on tape.
1035
01:21:02,938 --> 01:21:05,771
It's got a certain sound.
It's got a certain set of limitations.
1036
01:21:05,807 --> 01:21:09,265
You can't go in and just go like,
"Well, that's close enough."
1037
01:21:09,311 --> 01:21:11,279
Wow, this is great!
1038
01:21:11,313 --> 01:21:13,474
Rock n' roll is imperfection and flaws
1039
01:21:13,515 --> 01:21:17,281
and four or five or six or eight people
playing together.
1040
01:21:17,319 --> 01:21:21,255
It's not gonna line up.
It's gonna be a little fucked up. It should be.
1041
01:21:21,290 --> 01:21:23,622
Human beings aren't perfect.
1042
01:21:23,659 --> 01:21:25,286
You wanna say hello?
1043
01:21:25,327 --> 01:21:27,261
Hi!
1044
01:21:27,296 --> 01:21:31,062
What was really different was the environment,
doing it at Dave's house.
1045
01:21:31,099 --> 01:21:34,899
Which is the most comfortable environment
you can imagine.
1046
01:21:34,937 --> 01:21:38,304
It's like...
It's just fun to be there anyways.
1047
01:21:38,340 --> 01:21:41,468
I think the atmosphere of where you're
recording has to come out on the record.
1048
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:42,943
I don't see how it couldn't.
1049
01:21:42,978 --> 01:21:45,572
Look at this crew.
Look at the Hawkins!
1050
01:21:46,181 --> 01:21:48,308
What, are you kidding me?
1051
01:21:48,350 --> 01:21:50,318
The engineers and everybody
at one point were like,
1052
01:21:50,352 --> 01:21:53,082
"OK, we're gonna need this
and this and this.
1053
01:21:53,121 --> 01:21:55,749
"$700,000 worth of outboard gear."
1054
01:21:55,791 --> 01:21:59,818
And Dave's like, "No, no, no.
We're making a record in a garage!"
1055
01:22:06,969 --> 01:22:09,733
I love that we're about
to make an album at home.
1056
01:22:09,771 --> 01:22:13,434
I think the album's gonna sound like that.
I know it will.
1057
01:22:18,380 --> 01:22:20,974
If we need to have
three different drum sounds,
1058
01:22:21,016 --> 01:22:24,110
wouldn't it be cool to have them
crossfade into each other,
1059
01:22:24,152 --> 01:22:26,677
like as the other drum sound's
starting to come up
1060
01:22:26,722 --> 01:22:28,690
and the other one's going back?
1061
01:22:28,724 --> 01:22:32,057
Wouldn't it be cool
if we had a bucket of KFC right now?
1062
01:22:33,996 --> 01:22:36,829
So in recording,
it usually begins with Taylor and I.
1063
01:22:36,865 --> 01:22:39,561
The drums first, with the guitar,
1064
01:22:39,601 --> 01:22:44,561
and at first it's really to see
if Taylor and I
1065
01:22:44,606 --> 01:22:46,699
lock in with each other.
1066
01:23:00,255 --> 01:23:01,381
Did I miss my cue?
1067
01:23:01,423 --> 01:23:02,617
Yes, you did.
1068
01:23:02,658 --> 01:23:06,719
I go through a process,
sort of a self-Ioathing, "I suck" process
1069
01:23:06,762 --> 01:23:08,127
when I'm recording drums.
1070
01:23:08,163 --> 01:23:11,189
I tend to think
I'm the worst drummer in the world.
1071
01:23:12,067 --> 01:23:13,796
Fuck.
1072
01:23:13,835 --> 01:23:16,702
Sorry. I messed up the pattern a little bit.
1073
01:23:16,738 --> 01:23:17,762
OK.
1074
01:23:19,741 --> 01:23:22,403
When I go back and listen to the recording,
1075
01:23:22,444 --> 01:23:25,174
I'm like, "I'm all over the place."
It's not great.
1076
01:23:26,682 --> 01:23:28,616
Why? Why, God, why?
1077
01:23:28,650 --> 01:23:31,175
Sorry, I broke a drumstick!
1078
01:23:31,219 --> 01:23:35,087
Then it slowly evolves
and comes together after a couple hours,
1079
01:23:35,123 --> 01:23:37,353
and I have a drum track I'm really proud of.
1080
01:23:47,002 --> 01:23:48,993
The drums are finished.
1081
01:23:50,906 --> 01:23:54,069
I'm still not sure about These Days.
I could sit there and agonize all day
1082
01:23:54,109 --> 01:23:58,136
over one little snare hit or fuckin'...
the way a groove feels.
1083
01:23:58,180 --> 01:23:59,977
- And you will.
- And I will.
1084
01:24:00,015 --> 01:24:04,008
They'll play it on the radio and you'll go,
"Damn! That fuckin' snare hit!"
1085
01:24:04,052 --> 01:24:07,385
Maybe we should have just ProTooled
the fuck out of this record.
1086
01:24:07,422 --> 01:24:09,788
At least you know it's perfect.
1087
01:24:42,157 --> 01:24:45,615
When you're recording analogue like this,
knowing it can't be fixed
1088
01:24:45,660 --> 01:24:50,120
brings a factor to the way the band thinks
about how they're gonna play.
1089
01:24:50,165 --> 01:24:53,623
For instance, Nate,
before he would do his bass part,
1090
01:24:53,668 --> 01:24:55,727
would go out in the tent
and work out his part,
1091
01:24:55,771 --> 01:24:59,502
so when he came in to play,
he knew everything he was gonna do.
1092
01:25:30,872 --> 01:25:31,930
I think it sounds great.
1093
01:25:31,973 --> 01:25:32,962
It sounds awesome.
1094
01:25:33,008 --> 01:25:34,066
Yeah, it sounds awesome.
1095
01:26:09,344 --> 01:26:11,539
Is the bass or anything doing...
1096
01:26:12,948 --> 01:26:15,849
Is the bass or anything doing
a note coming out of...
1097
01:26:17,719 --> 01:26:21,746
Is there anything like that?
Is that gonna, do you want one?
1098
01:26:28,230 --> 01:26:30,198
- You know what I mean?
- I'd maybe not do that.
1099
01:26:30,232 --> 01:26:31,460
Don't do that.
1100
01:26:33,668 --> 01:26:37,468
That was very non-confrontational.
"Maybe don't do that."
1101
01:26:37,506 --> 01:26:40,134
I would maybe not ever do that in the song.
1102
01:26:40,175 --> 01:26:42,837
I'm the guy that plays the rhythm
straight up the middle.
1103
01:26:42,878 --> 01:26:44,675
And then you have Chris,
1104
01:26:44,746 --> 01:26:49,046
and Chris has a really sharp and clean sense
of melodic playing.
1105
01:26:50,352 --> 01:26:51,751
Then over here, there's Pat.
1106
01:26:51,786 --> 01:26:54,755
And it's like...
when Pat puts on a guitar it just goes...
1107
01:27:05,834 --> 01:27:09,361
All of those things... If they're balanced
it sounds like the Foo Fighters.
1108
01:27:09,404 --> 01:27:11,395
Did we finally get too grungy?
1109
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:16,502
It's never too grungy! I wonder if it's just,
you're losing, like, the notes.
1110
01:27:29,824 --> 01:27:33,487
We've had this expanded band now
for the last couple albums.
1111
01:27:47,542 --> 01:27:50,807
As a musician, it's a dream to be able to play
with as many people
1112
01:27:50,845 --> 01:27:52,836
and do as many different things as you can.
1113
01:27:53,848 --> 01:27:56,715
So where should we start?
What do you wanna start with?
1114
01:27:56,751 --> 01:27:59,481
We gotta get Bob fuckin' rockin' and rollin'.
1115
01:27:59,521 --> 01:28:00,852
What am I doing here?
1116
01:28:00,889 --> 01:28:04,882
I just learned the song, I got it in my head.
What do you want me to do?
1117
01:28:07,262 --> 01:28:12,529
When you meet someone that really helped
you become the musician that you are,
1118
01:28:12,567 --> 01:28:15,365
I really think it's important
to acknowledge that.
1119
01:28:29,250 --> 01:28:31,912
Bob's voice is so signature,
1120
01:28:31,953 --> 01:28:34,217
and to have him come to my fuckin' house
1121
01:28:34,255 --> 01:28:38,214
and do it on my fuckin' record
blows me away.
1122
01:28:38,259 --> 01:28:40,989
All right, cool.
You wanna do the bridge?
1123
01:28:41,029 --> 01:28:42,462
What do you wanna do, Bob?
1124
01:28:42,497 --> 01:28:43,964
Come on in.
1125
01:28:43,999 --> 01:28:46,490
I didn't write the middle section of the song,
1126
01:28:46,534 --> 01:28:50,630
because I wanted to write it with Bob,
while Bob was there.
1127
01:28:55,176 --> 01:28:58,373
But I didn't have the words,
so I sort of explained it,
1128
01:28:58,413 --> 01:29:01,610
and we tried it once just with phonetic crap.
1129
01:29:14,195 --> 01:29:15,492
Is that gonna make sense?
1130
01:29:15,530 --> 01:29:16,622
I think so.
1131
01:29:17,632 --> 01:29:19,930
OK, let me write something really quick.
1132
01:29:21,002 --> 01:29:23,129
OK, five-minute lyrics.
1133
01:29:23,171 --> 01:29:25,435
OK, give me a five-minute lyric break.
1134
01:29:25,473 --> 01:29:26,497
Clock's runnin'.
1135
01:29:33,448 --> 01:29:34,506
Dad?
1136
01:29:34,549 --> 01:29:35,607
Yeah?
1137
01:29:35,650 --> 01:29:37,550
Remember you said you'll swim?
1138
01:29:37,585 --> 01:29:41,146
I know, I have to write these words
really quick, so I can go sing it.
1139
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:42,349
OK.
1140
01:29:45,627 --> 01:29:46,924
OK.
1141
01:29:51,232 --> 01:29:53,359
One, two, you know what to do...
1142
01:30:23,765 --> 01:30:24,891
That sounds so good!
1143
01:30:24,933 --> 01:30:30,200
That is so fucking cool, you guys!
You can hear, it's really good.
1144
01:30:30,238 --> 01:30:32,570
Some of the songs
still had question marks, you know,
1145
01:30:32,607 --> 01:30:35,508
the biggest song being
I Should Have Known.
1146
01:30:35,577 --> 01:30:38,102
That song became sort of the X factor
in the album.
1147
01:31:00,268 --> 01:31:01,462
Yep, that's cool.
1148
01:31:01,503 --> 01:31:02,697
Fuckin' A, right?
1149
01:31:49,250 --> 01:31:51,377
I kinda feel like I Should Have Known
1150
01:31:51,419 --> 01:31:56,379
is a song that's about Dave's past,
1151
01:31:56,424 --> 01:32:00,588
and I think there are definitely references
in there about Nirvana and Kurt.
1152
01:32:01,596 --> 01:32:03,564
Fuckin' A, man.
1153
01:32:03,598 --> 01:32:05,361
That's really good.
1154
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,061
When I first started writing that song,
1155
01:32:07,101 --> 01:32:10,502
it was about someone else
that I was involved with,
1156
01:32:10,538 --> 01:32:12,665
and at the end of the day,
I said to myself,
1157
01:32:12,707 --> 01:32:15,938
"I should have known
that this was gonna happen."
1158
01:32:19,747 --> 01:32:20,873
But when I sing that song,
1159
01:32:20,915 --> 01:32:25,545
it's hard not to think about
all of the times in my life that's happened.
1160
01:32:34,929 --> 01:32:36,021
Hey, Krist!
1161
01:32:36,097 --> 01:32:37,359
Hello!
1162
01:32:38,566 --> 01:32:41,091
We had Krist Novoselic come in and play bass
on I Should Have Known.
1163
01:32:41,135 --> 01:32:43,035
That was a very special moment,
1164
01:32:43,071 --> 01:32:45,596
'cause I had not been in the same room
with Dave and Krist
1165
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,437
since we finished Nevermind.
1166
01:32:55,316 --> 01:32:57,978
It does that back and forth twice,
then it does the turnaround chords.
1167
01:32:58,019 --> 01:33:02,046
Yeah, it goes, D sharp,
G, D sharp, G, F, C,
1168
01:33:02,123 --> 01:33:05,115
then it goes back in D sharp,
G, D sharp...
1169
01:33:05,159 --> 01:33:06,990
It's like a six chord.
1170
01:33:07,028 --> 01:33:08,359
So it goes...
1171
01:33:23,678 --> 01:33:24,702
How was the tone?
1172
01:33:24,746 --> 01:33:26,714
I think it fuckin' sounds gnarly.
1173
01:33:26,748 --> 01:33:29,581
There, it's done. Seriously.
1174
01:33:29,617 --> 01:33:31,084
That's all you get, motherfucker.
1175
01:33:31,119 --> 01:33:34,611
I was not surprised that Dave asked Krist
to play on the record.
1176
01:33:34,656 --> 01:33:39,821
I was surprised it hadn't happened
any other time in the last 16 years.
1177
01:33:39,861 --> 01:33:44,264
You never realize how important
the bass sound is to the sound of a band
1178
01:33:44,299 --> 01:33:47,735
until you put it in another band and go,
"Oh, there it is."
1179
01:34:04,285 --> 01:34:06,276
I think what Krist played on the song
1180
01:34:06,321 --> 01:34:10,724
was the absolute perfect thing for him to do
on a Foo Fighters record.
1181
01:34:25,306 --> 01:34:28,139
I think that might be the ending.
We've found it.
1182
01:34:29,877 --> 01:34:31,003
Yeah, sample my phone.
1183
01:34:31,045 --> 01:34:32,706
The ice cream truck.
1184
01:34:37,218 --> 01:34:40,210
It usually takes us a while to name an album.
1185
01:34:41,656 --> 01:34:44,250
But I decided to call the record
Wasting Light,
1186
01:34:44,292 --> 01:34:46,522
because I honestly feel like
1187
01:34:46,561 --> 01:34:51,362
I don't wanna let one minute of this go
without really feeling it.
1188
01:35:21,729 --> 01:35:25,563
The best way to prepare to playing
to 85,000 people
1189
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,727
is to play at these small club gigs.
1190
01:35:27,769 --> 01:35:31,500
Because that's kind of a true test.
You go to see an arena rock band.
1191
01:35:31,539 --> 01:35:34,565
They're pretty good,
but would they be any good at the Roxy?
1192
01:35:49,991 --> 01:35:51,117
Hold the fuckin'...
1193
01:35:51,159 --> 01:35:52,786
Then bask in the glory for a minute.
1194
01:36:01,035 --> 01:36:06,905
Having Scream be the first band on the bill,
my heroes from my childhood,
1195
01:36:06,941 --> 01:36:10,001
the band that
I dropped out of high school to join,
1196
01:36:10,044 --> 01:36:13,207
to see them sharing the stage
with my band Foo Fighters
1197
01:36:13,247 --> 01:36:16,045
was a really big deal to me.
1198
01:36:22,957 --> 01:36:24,390
Yeah, good night, y'all.
1199
01:36:24,425 --> 01:36:26,256
Thank you.
1200
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,173
You guys wanna hear the new record?
1201
01:36:56,357 --> 01:36:58,416
The Foo Fighters
sound like the Foo Fighters
1202
01:36:58,459 --> 01:37:02,623
because it's me, and Taylor, and Nate,
and Chris, and Pat.
1203
01:37:02,663 --> 01:37:05,530
If it were anyone else, it would sound different.
1204
01:37:05,566 --> 01:37:08,091
You never wanna lose anybody,
1205
01:37:08,136 --> 01:37:12,300
and you never wanna see someone
disappear out of your life,
1206
01:37:12,373 --> 01:37:15,865
but we wouldn't be here
if it were different with William.
1207
01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:18,606
We wouldn't be here
if it were different with Franz.
1208
01:37:18,646 --> 01:37:22,548
I feel bad about the bad things,
I feel good about the good things,
1209
01:37:22,583 --> 01:37:24,710
but I wouldn't change a thing.
1210
01:38:00,488 --> 01:38:02,649
We've worked hard,
and we've made a great band.
1211
01:38:02,690 --> 01:38:05,022
I'm incapable of doing
almost anything else
1212
01:38:05,059 --> 01:38:07,220
at this point in time,
so this is what I do.
1213
01:38:07,261 --> 01:38:11,129
I'm an adult that plays in a rock band.
How about that?
1214
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:24,403
I've had people say in interviews,
1215
01:38:24,445 --> 01:38:27,471
"So, Taylor,
what is it like to be a rock star?"
1216
01:38:27,515 --> 01:38:30,712
And I'm like, "Fuck you.
I'm not a rock star. I'm a musician."
1217
01:38:51,606 --> 01:38:53,904
It's a functional family,
you know what I mean?
1218
01:38:53,941 --> 01:38:56,910
I go to work coming up here,
1219
01:38:56,944 --> 01:38:59,412
and I just fucking laugh all day
and play great music.
1220
01:39:23,437 --> 01:39:26,235
There will probably always, to some extent,
be that feeling,
1221
01:39:26,274 --> 01:39:29,607
"This could all end tomorrow.
Who the fuck knows, you know?"
1222
01:39:29,644 --> 01:39:31,578
We're all pretty lucky that we get to do this
1223
01:39:31,612 --> 01:39:34,479
and we have to enjoy it while it's here
and make the most of it.
1224
01:39:51,499 --> 01:39:57,597
It's a crazy feeling when something goes
from a spark of imagination
1225
01:39:57,638 --> 01:40:00,106
to something you can hold in your hands.
1226
01:40:00,141 --> 01:40:02,075
That first cassette...
1227
01:40:03,344 --> 01:40:06,609
made in five fuckin' days or whatever,
1228
01:40:06,647 --> 01:40:12,381
and here we are. It's just like,
"Whoa. How the fuck did this happen?"
1229
01:40:46,787 --> 01:40:48,880
Honestly, had I taken
this whole career thing seriously,
1230
01:40:48,923 --> 01:40:50,254
I would've named it something else,
1231
01:40:50,291 --> 01:40:52,555
'cause it's the worst fuckin' band name
in the world!
109113
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