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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,125 --> 00:00:13,389 [Casey Hammer] My grandfather lived in Holmby Hills, 2 00:00:13,389 --> 00:00:15,334 which is the neighborhood 3 00:00:15,334 --> 00:00:18,875 right between Wilshire Boulevard and Sunset 4 00:00:18,875 --> 00:00:20,681 in Westwood. 5 00:00:20,681 --> 00:00:23,355 It's the elite of the elite. 6 00:00:25,647 --> 00:00:29,535 And now, we're gonna come up on the right side, 7 00:00:29,605 --> 00:00:31,306 is my grandfather's house. 8 00:00:32,348 --> 00:00:34,223 There's his house, 9 00:00:34,223 --> 00:00:36,583 and we would park right here in front, 10 00:00:36,583 --> 00:00:39,604 and then we would get up and race up the stairs. 11 00:00:42,140 --> 00:00:44,917 And that front window was Grandpa's office. 12 00:00:46,723 --> 00:00:49,328 [newscaster] As president of Occidental Petroleum, 13 00:00:49,397 --> 00:00:53,251 Armand Hammer turned it into the 11th largest oil company 14 00:00:53,251 --> 00:00:55,543 in the United States. 15 00:00:55,543 --> 00:00:58,877 [Casey] The Hammer name wielded a lot of prestige and power. 16 00:00:59,710 --> 00:01:01,794 [man] And the two grandchildren, 17 00:01:01,794 --> 00:01:05,578 Michael and Casey, would you please stand up? 18 00:01:05,578 --> 00:01:08,807 [Casey] We were always hanging out with royalty at these parties, 19 00:01:08,876 --> 00:01:10,855 and we would get training, 20 00:01:10,855 --> 00:01:15,960 and we would learn how to address the royalty. 21 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:19,502 It was just this kind of secret society, 22 00:01:19,502 --> 00:01:22,523 kind of inner circle of the elite. 23 00:01:22,523 --> 00:01:25,579 [Prince Charles] How on Earth do they expect us 24 00:01:25,648 --> 00:01:27,558 to get anything done 25 00:01:28,287 --> 00:01:29,641 without money? 26 00:01:31,482 --> 00:01:34,641 [Casey] People were so curious about that lifestyle, 27 00:01:34,710 --> 00:01:36,274 about all that wealth. 28 00:01:38,565 --> 00:01:42,106 On the outside, we were a perfect family. 29 00:01:42,106 --> 00:01:44,746 -[woman] Hi, Casey! -Come on in. 30 00:01:45,857 --> 00:01:47,073 Watch your step. 31 00:01:51,517 --> 00:01:54,502 But beneath it all was a dark world of deceit, 32 00:01:54,502 --> 00:01:56,100 betrayal, and corruption... 33 00:01:58,462 --> 00:02:00,545 ...and that's why I'm coming forward now. 34 00:02:02,108 --> 00:02:04,191 It's time to stop the cycle. 35 00:02:50,685 --> 00:02:55,234 So, this is a picture of the Hammer family, 36 00:02:55,234 --> 00:03:00,964 and there's my father, Julian. 37 00:03:00,964 --> 00:03:02,943 I'm standing behind him. 38 00:03:03,811 --> 00:03:05,373 You have my brother, Michael, 39 00:03:06,207 --> 00:03:08,151 and then, in the center of the shot 40 00:03:08,151 --> 00:03:09,609 is my grandfather, 41 00:03:10,477 --> 00:03:12,457 and he's holding Armie. 42 00:03:15,894 --> 00:03:19,436 [man] How did Armie Hammer go from Hollywood golden boy 43 00:03:19,506 --> 00:03:20,582 to an alleged abuser 44 00:03:20,652 --> 00:03:22,631 in the space of one evening in January? 45 00:03:22,631 --> 00:03:24,923 [woman] When all this came out about Armie, 46 00:03:24,923 --> 00:03:26,311 I was not shocked. 47 00:03:26,380 --> 00:03:28,463 [newscaster] Sexually graphic texts and DMs 48 00:03:28,463 --> 00:03:30,374 of dominating, BDSM, 49 00:03:30,443 --> 00:03:32,561 and even cannibalism began trending. 50 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:35,895 [woman] This behavior, it's deep-rooted. 51 00:03:47,319 --> 00:03:49,297 [Casey] My father, Julian Hammer, 52 00:03:49,297 --> 00:03:50,999 is Armie's grandfather. 53 00:03:52,736 --> 00:03:54,924 When my mother met my father, 54 00:03:54,924 --> 00:03:56,799 they ended up in Tijuana, 55 00:03:56,799 --> 00:03:58,673 drunk on the back of a motorcycle, 56 00:03:58,673 --> 00:04:00,548 and getting married. 57 00:04:00,548 --> 00:04:02,250 And my mother had no idea 58 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,479 that my father was Armand Hammer's son. 59 00:04:05,549 --> 00:04:08,985 Had no idea about the wealth, had no idea about any of it. 60 00:04:08,985 --> 00:04:12,458 And then, when my father got married, 61 00:04:12,528 --> 00:04:13,882 my grandfather decided 62 00:04:13,882 --> 00:04:15,966 that my father needed to be responsible 63 00:04:15,966 --> 00:04:17,737 now that he had a wife. 64 00:04:21,590 --> 00:04:23,500 I was born in 1960. 65 00:04:24,334 --> 00:04:26,279 We moved to Pacific Palisades, 66 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,292 which was near the coast in California. 67 00:04:30,792 --> 00:04:33,570 But my father was such a mess. 68 00:04:34,508 --> 00:04:36,035 He was always drunk, 69 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:39,508 and you just never knew what kind of condition he was in. 70 00:04:42,251 --> 00:04:44,612 There was a lot going on behind closed doors. 71 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:03,780 Christmases were probably my favorite time of year. 72 00:05:04,613 --> 00:05:05,863 It was a big deal. 73 00:05:05,863 --> 00:05:07,668 It was like a department store. 74 00:05:07,738 --> 00:05:10,445 We all got piles and piles of Christmas presents. 75 00:05:12,356 --> 00:05:14,197 That's my brother, Michael, 76 00:05:14,197 --> 00:05:15,550 Armie's father... 77 00:05:16,905 --> 00:05:19,648 ...and there he is, riding a little motorcycle. 78 00:05:23,572 --> 00:05:25,864 I should be somewhere in there. 79 00:05:30,794 --> 00:05:33,051 I remember one year, it was Christmas Eve. 80 00:05:33,676 --> 00:05:35,794 I was young, maybe five, 81 00:05:35,864 --> 00:05:37,982 and I still believed in Santa Claus. 82 00:05:39,093 --> 00:05:40,655 [distant shouting] 83 00:05:40,655 --> 00:05:42,148 After I had gone to bed, 84 00:05:42,218 --> 00:05:43,607 I heard screaming. 85 00:05:43,676 --> 00:05:45,448 [indistinct shouting] 86 00:05:45,448 --> 00:05:48,468 My father and mother were fighting, 87 00:05:48,468 --> 00:05:51,003 and he was threatening to kill her. 88 00:05:51,003 --> 00:05:53,364 [arguing continues] 89 00:05:53,364 --> 00:05:55,238 -[slaps] -[woman yelps] 90 00:05:55,238 --> 00:05:58,781 [Casey] My father slapped my mom really hard, 91 00:05:58,781 --> 00:06:01,420 and I just remember seeing blood splatter. 92 00:06:02,219 --> 00:06:03,990 She made me go back to my room 93 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:05,969 and told me that everything was gonna be okay, 94 00:06:05,969 --> 00:06:08,157 and if I didn't go right to sleep, 95 00:06:08,157 --> 00:06:09,822 Santa Claus wasn't gonna come. 96 00:06:12,462 --> 00:06:13,989 As a little girl, 97 00:06:13,989 --> 00:06:19,093 when you're seeing your mom get beat up by your father, 98 00:06:19,093 --> 00:06:22,670 and blood running down the front of her body, 99 00:06:23,468 --> 00:06:24,615 and her screaming, 100 00:06:24,615 --> 00:06:26,004 you don't really understand what's happening. 101 00:06:27,740 --> 00:06:29,095 I can't tell you how many times 102 00:06:29,095 --> 00:06:31,907 I would get under my covers as a little girl 103 00:06:31,907 --> 00:06:34,199 and put my fingers in my ears and sing... 104 00:06:35,379 --> 00:06:37,637 ...because I didn't wanna hear the noise. 105 00:06:37,637 --> 00:06:40,379 I didn't wanna hear the screaming... 106 00:06:41,699 --> 00:06:43,574 ...because you can't make it stop. 107 00:06:50,866 --> 00:06:53,887 As we got older, my father... 108 00:06:53,887 --> 00:06:55,866 He just got worse and worse and worse. 109 00:07:00,554 --> 00:07:02,116 In the middle of the night, 110 00:07:02,116 --> 00:07:04,408 my mom would collect me, 111 00:07:04,408 --> 00:07:07,047 and we would grab what we could 112 00:07:07,047 --> 00:07:09,199 and get in the car and drive down the hill 113 00:07:09,929 --> 00:07:11,214 and go to a motel... 114 00:07:13,366 --> 00:07:16,075 ...and wait until the sun came up... 115 00:07:19,443 --> 00:07:21,526 ...until my father cooled down, 116 00:07:21,526 --> 00:07:23,159 and then we would go back to the house. 117 00:07:24,756 --> 00:07:26,110 That happened a lot. 118 00:07:28,576 --> 00:07:30,137 It always escalated. 119 00:07:30,137 --> 00:07:32,256 You didn't know what was gonna happen next. 120 00:07:34,964 --> 00:07:37,360 My mom had been threatening to leave. 121 00:07:37,429 --> 00:07:40,173 But my grandfather always said, 122 00:07:40,243 --> 00:07:42,464 "If you leave my son, 123 00:07:42,464 --> 00:07:45,451 I'll ruin you and make your life miserable," 124 00:07:45,451 --> 00:07:46,700 and, you know, 125 00:07:46,700 --> 00:07:48,159 "You won't have a penny." 126 00:07:48,159 --> 00:07:50,694 My grandfather had very powerful attorneys back then. 127 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:55,764 The public persona turned into, 128 00:07:55,764 --> 00:07:58,472 "I can take everything away from you 129 00:07:58,472 --> 00:08:00,556 with one stroke of the pen." 130 00:08:01,597 --> 00:08:05,972 So it was a frightening, scary energy 131 00:08:06,632 --> 00:08:08,403 that my grandfather had. 132 00:08:09,721 --> 00:08:13,368 The Hammer family name had to be pristine. 133 00:08:13,368 --> 00:08:16,840 You couldn't be the reason for the black mark. 134 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,993 While my grandfather was alive, 135 00:08:18,993 --> 00:08:21,736 you played by his rules, or you got cut off. 136 00:08:25,452 --> 00:08:28,924 We were taught that Big Brother's always watching. 137 00:08:28,994 --> 00:08:31,181 You can't get away from it. 138 00:08:31,181 --> 00:08:36,112 My grandfather had files on anybody you dated or any of your friends. 139 00:08:36,182 --> 00:08:38,299 [telephone ringing] 140 00:08:38,369 --> 00:08:40,868 [Casey on recording] You would pick up your phone to talk to someone, 141 00:08:40,868 --> 00:08:42,570 and you would hear a click, 142 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,307 and you knew you were being recorded. 143 00:08:46,425 --> 00:08:49,098 You didn't make a move without thinking about, 144 00:08:49,098 --> 00:08:51,911 "What if Grandpa finds out?" 145 00:08:51,911 --> 00:08:54,932 [Mariann Vitamanti] Casey's grandfather controlled his family. 146 00:08:54,932 --> 00:08:56,911 He controlled everything. 147 00:08:57,953 --> 00:09:00,800 That has to be scary, 148 00:09:00,870 --> 00:09:04,307 to know that there are people watching you all the time. 149 00:09:05,696 --> 00:09:07,154 "Walk the straight and narrow. 150 00:09:07,952 --> 00:09:08,925 I see you. 151 00:09:09,724 --> 00:09:12,119 You don't see me, but I see you." 152 00:09:14,030 --> 00:09:17,223 [Casey] I like to say that our lives were like a chessboard, 153 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:20,349 and my grandfather basically controlled all the moves. 154 00:09:20,349 --> 00:09:21,460 [applause] 155 00:09:21,460 --> 00:09:25,592 But I had no idea about half of the things 156 00:09:25,592 --> 00:09:26,912 my grandfather did 157 00:09:28,058 --> 00:09:30,176 and how powerful he really was. 158 00:09:30,246 --> 00:09:32,849 -[all applauding] -[host] Well, look who is here. 159 00:09:32,849 --> 00:09:34,725 He happens to be president and CEO 160 00:09:34,725 --> 00:09:36,704 of Occidental Petroleum in Los Angeles. 161 00:09:36,704 --> 00:09:39,829 Maybe I should say he is also one of the wealthiest men in the world. 162 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:41,600 Please welcome Dr. Armand Hammer. 163 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,996 [applause] 164 00:09:45,593 --> 00:09:47,572 [Casey] My grandfather built an oil empire 165 00:09:47,641 --> 00:09:49,864 that up until his death 166 00:09:49,934 --> 00:09:52,955 was, I believe, the 16th largest company in the world. 167 00:09:52,955 --> 00:09:55,697 [host] Well, that's a pretty good hand for a rich guy. 168 00:09:55,766 --> 00:09:58,927 Everything he touched turned to gold. 169 00:09:58,927 --> 00:10:03,094 [Neil Lyndon] I worked for Armand Hammer from 1986 to 1989 170 00:10:03,162 --> 00:10:08,927 as one of his political and media consultants. 171 00:10:08,997 --> 00:10:14,725 And I saw him exercise access around the world 172 00:10:14,725 --> 00:10:17,886 which was unparalleled for a private individual. 173 00:10:18,823 --> 00:10:21,185 He could, at will, 174 00:10:21,185 --> 00:10:22,886 enter the Kremlin. 175 00:10:22,954 --> 00:10:25,038 I help him, he helps me. 176 00:10:25,456 --> 00:10:26,497 It is mutual. 177 00:10:28,581 --> 00:10:32,157 We do not discuss secrets, just business. 178 00:10:32,226 --> 00:10:35,143 [Lyndon] Buckingham Palace, the White House... 179 00:10:35,143 --> 00:10:37,123 They were all at his disposal 180 00:10:37,123 --> 00:10:39,414 and at his bidding. 181 00:10:40,282 --> 00:10:41,914 [machine beeps] 182 00:10:41,914 --> 00:10:43,477 -[John F. Kennedy] Mr. Hammer? -[Armand Hammer] Yes? 183 00:10:43,477 --> 00:10:45,386 [John F. Kennedy] Oh, this is the President, how are you? 184 00:10:45,386 --> 00:10:48,928 [Armand Hammer] Oh, hello, President Kennedy, I'm glad to hear from you again. 185 00:10:52,226 --> 00:10:55,074 [Casey] I remember once asking my grandfather 186 00:10:55,143 --> 00:10:58,061 why he wasn't President of the United States, 187 00:10:58,061 --> 00:11:01,601 and he laughed and said there wasn't enough power in it. 188 00:11:03,165 --> 00:11:04,449 I mean, even now, 189 00:11:04,518 --> 00:11:06,915 people are still so fascinated. 190 00:11:06,915 --> 00:11:08,512 This stuff didn't start with Armie. 191 00:11:08,582 --> 00:11:11,116 He is the great-grandson of Armand Hammer, 192 00:11:11,186 --> 00:11:13,200 an oil tycoon whose son, Julian, 193 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:15,770 who would be Armie's grandfather, was insane. 194 00:11:15,770 --> 00:11:18,096 He beat the living daylights out of his wife... 195 00:11:19,310 --> 00:11:22,541 I was definitely pulling in eyeballs, 196 00:11:22,541 --> 00:11:26,082 like, just by sharing the things that I was looking into. 197 00:11:26,082 --> 00:11:28,062 I had so many tips coming in, 198 00:11:28,062 --> 00:11:29,763 and it wasn't just tips about Armie. 199 00:11:29,832 --> 00:11:31,916 It was just tips about the whole family. 200 00:11:32,437 --> 00:11:33,894 [clicks] 201 00:11:33,894 --> 00:11:36,915 By virtue of sharing the story, 202 00:11:36,915 --> 00:11:40,040 Candice and I found each other on Instagram, 203 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,479 and we started talking about the case. 204 00:11:44,416 --> 00:11:47,159 I didn't even know who Armand Hammer was, 205 00:11:47,159 --> 00:11:50,388 and looking into him and his son, 206 00:11:50,388 --> 00:11:51,534 and his son after that, 207 00:11:52,021 --> 00:11:53,478 and then Armie, 208 00:11:53,513 --> 00:11:56,917 it was so many people in this family that had a sort of history. 209 00:11:58,722 --> 00:12:01,326 [Lauren Skae] People were absolutely dumbfounded. 210 00:12:01,396 --> 00:12:03,479 What are the odds that there would be 211 00:12:03,479 --> 00:12:06,082 so many generations of a family 212 00:12:06,082 --> 00:12:07,646 behaving so badly? 213 00:12:08,618 --> 00:12:10,493 What became readily apparent to us 214 00:12:10,563 --> 00:12:12,855 was that there was still a lot of things to uncover. 215 00:12:18,792 --> 00:12:23,272 [Casey] My mom had always said that she stayed with my father as long as she did 216 00:12:23,272 --> 00:12:25,459 because of my grandfather. 217 00:12:25,459 --> 00:12:29,348 So, it was a never-ending cycle for a very long time. 218 00:12:29,418 --> 00:12:32,889 But then finally, I was 11, and she'd had enough, 219 00:12:32,959 --> 00:12:35,564 and we went down the street to the motel... 220 00:12:37,543 --> 00:12:39,834 ...and this time, we didn't go back. 221 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,598 When my parents got divorced, 222 00:12:45,667 --> 00:12:47,682 my grandfather kept to his word, 223 00:12:47,750 --> 00:12:50,703 and my father destroyed my mother in court. 224 00:12:51,744 --> 00:12:54,105 My father ended up only paying, like, 225 00:12:54,105 --> 00:12:56,397 $200 a month's child support. 226 00:12:58,063 --> 00:13:02,023 My mom said that the biggest regret of her life 227 00:13:02,023 --> 00:13:05,148 was letting Michael decide to stay with my father. 228 00:13:09,453 --> 00:13:13,307 It was a while before my mother let me go down and visit my father. 229 00:13:15,807 --> 00:13:17,266 I just remember, 230 00:13:17,336 --> 00:13:19,105 it was the house I grew up in, 231 00:13:19,105 --> 00:13:21,398 so it was familiar, 232 00:13:21,398 --> 00:13:23,308 but yet, there were tons of people. 233 00:13:25,704 --> 00:13:27,439 It was a lot of drinking... 234 00:13:29,003 --> 00:13:30,878 ...a lot of smoke-filled rooms, 235 00:13:31,954 --> 00:13:34,523 a lot of screaming, a lot of loud music... 236 00:13:35,878 --> 00:13:37,128 ...a lot of drugs. 237 00:13:39,141 --> 00:13:45,461 He always had, like, 16 or 17-year-old girls around, 238 00:13:45,461 --> 00:13:47,441 not much older than I was, 239 00:13:47,441 --> 00:13:49,038 five or six years older, 240 00:13:49,106 --> 00:13:50,774 and he called them his "housekeepers." 241 00:13:50,774 --> 00:13:51,816 [man laughing] 242 00:13:51,816 --> 00:13:53,795 It was code for his girlfriends. 243 00:13:55,704 --> 00:13:56,850 I believe it was... 244 00:13:58,378 --> 00:13:59,627 ...sexual, in a sense 245 00:13:59,627 --> 00:14:04,212 where they were usually sitting on each other's laps 246 00:14:04,212 --> 00:14:07,684 or kissing or fondling each other. 247 00:14:08,726 --> 00:14:11,086 It was almost like giant orgies. 248 00:14:11,086 --> 00:14:14,767 Michael, my brother, would bring his friends up to party, 249 00:14:14,837 --> 00:14:17,232 and they would hit on them, as well. 250 00:14:17,232 --> 00:14:18,900 The drugs were free-flowing, 251 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:21,226 so it was a very free atmosphere. 252 00:14:23,171 --> 00:14:25,184 Casey was one of my best friends. 253 00:14:25,254 --> 00:14:26,921 I don't remember 254 00:14:26,921 --> 00:14:30,497 when the first time I met Mike was, 255 00:14:31,192 --> 00:14:32,442 but he was always around. 256 00:14:34,976 --> 00:14:36,921 Casey and I would go to Julian's, 257 00:14:36,921 --> 00:14:38,101 her father's house. 258 00:14:38,588 --> 00:14:40,671 As you walk in, 259 00:14:40,671 --> 00:14:43,483 there was a big bowl of cocaine 260 00:14:43,483 --> 00:14:47,338 and a very, kind of, "help yourself" attitude. 261 00:14:49,629 --> 00:14:53,067 It was an environment where old men 262 00:14:53,067 --> 00:14:56,852 and young girls and cocaine, and... 263 00:14:58,067 --> 00:15:00,290 It was shocking. 264 00:15:02,581 --> 00:15:03,693 [camera shutter clicks] 265 00:15:03,693 --> 00:15:05,358 Your parents aren't supposed to do that. 266 00:15:07,269 --> 00:15:09,525 One time at a party, 267 00:15:09,525 --> 00:15:12,860 I had come out of my bedroom the next morning, 268 00:15:12,860 --> 00:15:15,603 and everyone was passed out all over the floor. 269 00:15:17,686 --> 00:15:20,047 I remember walking by the couch, 270 00:15:20,047 --> 00:15:25,777 and there were polaroid pictures of one of my father's housekeepers, 271 00:15:25,777 --> 00:15:30,048 and at the time, I thought she was eating an ice cream, 272 00:15:30,048 --> 00:15:33,589 because that's what you did when you were little. 273 00:15:36,505 --> 00:15:38,103 I kept looking at the pictures 274 00:15:38,173 --> 00:15:40,603 trying to figure out what was happening, 275 00:15:40,672 --> 00:15:44,943 and that's how I realized that it wasn't an ice cream, 276 00:15:44,943 --> 00:15:47,236 that it was attached to a man. 277 00:15:51,437 --> 00:15:52,861 One of the pictures, 278 00:15:52,861 --> 00:15:56,125 in the background was this figure in the corner, 279 00:15:56,125 --> 00:15:58,000 in a chair, watching. 280 00:16:00,882 --> 00:16:03,312 I recognized that that was my father. 281 00:16:06,541 --> 00:16:08,278 Being born in that family 282 00:16:08,278 --> 00:16:11,091 and watching the behavior, 283 00:16:11,091 --> 00:16:13,521 it was my normal. 284 00:16:13,591 --> 00:16:17,445 I mean, how do you know it's wrong when that's all you know? 285 00:16:17,445 --> 00:16:20,292 So, when my father and my brother 286 00:16:20,361 --> 00:16:23,903 surrounded themselves with young, impressionable women 287 00:16:23,903 --> 00:16:26,091 that would basically do anything that they asked... 288 00:16:27,133 --> 00:16:29,632 ...that was the mentality I saw. 289 00:16:30,883 --> 00:16:33,279 Women were disposable in the Hammer family. 290 00:16:49,251 --> 00:16:52,342 [Armie Hammer] So, [sighs] I had to move rooms. 291 00:16:52,342 --> 00:16:53,835 They had to move my room 292 00:16:53,904 --> 00:16:55,778 'cause of some, like, noise complaints or something. 293 00:16:55,778 --> 00:16:59,321 I think they said it was 417. 294 00:17:00,814 --> 00:17:02,376 Oh, here it is. 295 00:17:04,147 --> 00:17:07,655 [Candice Cronkhite] A major news publication posted a video, 296 00:17:07,655 --> 00:17:11,231 and it showed Armie holding his phone, 297 00:17:11,231 --> 00:17:12,551 walking into his room. 298 00:17:12,551 --> 00:17:15,155 [Armie] All right, so far, so good. 299 00:17:16,404 --> 00:17:18,523 Uh, that bed looks pretty comfy. 300 00:17:18,523 --> 00:17:23,280 [Cronkhite] He just glosses over a woman on all fours in lingerie 301 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,779 and goes out and shows out the balcony. 302 00:17:25,779 --> 00:17:27,655 [Armie] Yeah, boy! 303 00:17:27,655 --> 00:17:29,252 It's like, "Look how much power I have. 304 00:17:29,322 --> 00:17:31,648 I have a lady just sitting right here, 305 00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:34,530 waiting for me to do whatever I ask her to 306 00:17:34,530 --> 00:17:35,885 and she's staying quiet." 307 00:17:35,885 --> 00:17:37,342 [cell phone chimes] 308 00:17:41,857 --> 00:17:45,780 I was getting information via DMs 309 00:17:45,780 --> 00:17:48,281 saying that this is his Finsta account, 310 00:17:48,281 --> 00:17:49,982 "el-_destructo-_86." 311 00:17:51,198 --> 00:17:54,113 Finsta just means "fake Instagram." 312 00:17:54,113 --> 00:17:56,093 and these are often used by celebrities 313 00:17:56,093 --> 00:17:57,378 that have a private account 314 00:17:57,448 --> 00:17:58,802 separate from their public ones. 315 00:18:00,155 --> 00:18:01,823 On this private Instagram account, 316 00:18:01,823 --> 00:18:04,357 he basically posted anything he wanted. 317 00:18:04,426 --> 00:18:07,378 Where his public one was very curated, 318 00:18:07,447 --> 00:18:10,295 this one, he was posting videos 319 00:18:10,365 --> 00:18:12,864 of him engaging in sexual things, 320 00:18:12,864 --> 00:18:14,358 him doing drugs. 321 00:18:16,337 --> 00:18:18,316 It was pretty wild. 322 00:18:19,566 --> 00:18:22,031 He really wasn't hiding what he was doing. 323 00:18:24,218 --> 00:18:27,587 He had posted a picture of him on the toilet 324 00:18:27,657 --> 00:18:29,740 with a drug test, saying, 325 00:18:29,740 --> 00:18:34,531 "All negative. My body is a finely tuned toxicant processing unit." 326 00:18:34,531 --> 00:18:39,116 Indicating that he definitely took drugs and he passed a drug test. 327 00:18:39,116 --> 00:18:40,470 Shit's getting weird. 328 00:18:45,156 --> 00:18:46,198 [man] More, one more. 329 00:18:48,387 --> 00:18:51,234 [smacks lips] Yep, got it all. [hissing] 330 00:18:51,234 --> 00:18:55,991 It's just such a reflection of how above the law this man thinks he is, 331 00:18:55,991 --> 00:18:59,012 that he is not only in a car taking drugs 332 00:18:59,012 --> 00:19:00,262 and drinking while driving, 333 00:19:00,921 --> 00:19:02,345 but videotaping it... 334 00:19:02,345 --> 00:19:03,838 [can pops open] 335 00:19:03,907 --> 00:19:05,782 ...and posting it, 336 00:19:05,782 --> 00:19:09,115 because he thinks it's cool to show his friends. 337 00:19:10,575 --> 00:19:11,721 [sighs] Ah. 338 00:19:13,526 --> 00:19:15,471 [Cronkhite] It seems like each generation 339 00:19:15,471 --> 00:19:19,151 was impacted with a number of women 340 00:19:19,221 --> 00:19:21,860 who had been wronged by the Hammer family. 341 00:19:21,929 --> 00:19:25,159 [photographer shouts] Armie, looking up here. Right here, over here for me. 342 00:19:25,159 --> 00:19:27,866 [Skae] It's hard to imagine one person behaving that badly. 343 00:19:31,617 --> 00:19:33,839 To hear that it's been going on for so many generations 344 00:19:33,908 --> 00:19:35,297 is kind of unimaginable. 345 00:19:44,847 --> 00:19:46,512 [producer] There we go. 346 00:19:46,512 --> 00:19:48,596 [Edward Epstein] My name is Edward Jay Epstein. 347 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:50,402 Everything okay? 348 00:19:51,930 --> 00:19:56,652 In 1980, The New York Times came to me 349 00:19:56,722 --> 00:19:59,882 and asked if I wanted to write a profile on Armand Hammer, 350 00:19:59,882 --> 00:20:00,923 so I did. 351 00:20:02,277 --> 00:20:05,715 I began traveling with Armand Hammer. 352 00:20:05,785 --> 00:20:08,215 I went all over the world with him, 353 00:20:08,215 --> 00:20:09,847 got to know him pretty well. 354 00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:15,264 One of the things that intrigued me about Hammer 355 00:20:15,264 --> 00:20:17,139 was that his public persona 356 00:20:17,139 --> 00:20:21,306 was purposely divorced from his private activities. 357 00:20:24,327 --> 00:20:28,806 Armand controlled everyone, including women, 358 00:20:28,806 --> 00:20:32,174 and Hammer in his life had three marriages. 359 00:20:32,174 --> 00:20:34,987 Well, you haven't been unlucky in love then? 360 00:20:35,056 --> 00:20:38,701 [Epstein] The first was in Russia with Olga. 361 00:20:38,701 --> 00:20:40,473 [Armand] She wanted a career in Hollywood 362 00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:42,140 and I was here in New York. 363 00:20:42,140 --> 00:20:43,390 It didn't last. 364 00:20:44,015 --> 00:20:45,057 We were divorced. 365 00:20:46,341 --> 00:20:49,118 [Epstein] The second was with Angela... 366 00:20:49,118 --> 00:20:51,724 [Armand] Unfortunately, she was an alcoholic, 367 00:20:51,724 --> 00:20:54,327 and after ten years of putting up with her, 368 00:20:54,327 --> 00:20:55,264 I divorced her. 369 00:20:56,620 --> 00:20:58,842 [Lyndon] Armand's wife, Angela... 370 00:21:00,577 --> 00:21:05,092 ...in her divorce testimony, she said that he, 371 00:21:05,162 --> 00:21:09,363 "willfully, maliciously, and deliberately pursued a course of conduct, 372 00:21:09,432 --> 00:21:13,425 employed techniques, tactics and practices 373 00:21:13,495 --> 00:21:18,113 calculated and designed to destroy her will. 374 00:21:18,113 --> 00:21:21,411 He threatened her with serious bodily violence and injury, 375 00:21:21,411 --> 00:21:25,578 and to beat her brains out by brandishing a metal pipe. 376 00:21:28,808 --> 00:21:30,786 'I feared my husband. 377 00:21:30,786 --> 00:21:34,537 He is a master of psychological warfare.'" 378 00:21:38,287 --> 00:21:39,953 [Armand] My present wife, Frances, 379 00:21:39,953 --> 00:21:42,871 we've been married 31 years and this is the happiest... 380 00:21:42,871 --> 00:21:44,642 31 years of my life. 381 00:21:44,642 --> 00:21:46,135 Well, what's the moral of this story? 382 00:21:47,176 --> 00:21:49,156 Well, we must never give up. 383 00:21:49,989 --> 00:21:51,551 [audience laughing] 384 00:21:53,426 --> 00:21:57,281 [Epstein] Armand Hammer considered his relations with women 385 00:21:57,351 --> 00:22:00,163 as a means of getting something. 386 00:22:00,163 --> 00:22:02,351 They served a purpose to him. 387 00:22:03,114 --> 00:22:05,580 He married Frances for her money. 388 00:22:07,141 --> 00:22:09,434 She gave him the money that allowed him 389 00:22:09,434 --> 00:22:12,663 to go into the oil business in a big way. 390 00:22:12,663 --> 00:22:15,615 [reporter] Dr. Armand Hammer and his third wife, Frances, 391 00:22:15,684 --> 00:22:17,558 took a $100,000 gamble 392 00:22:17,558 --> 00:22:20,198 when they invested in Occidental Petroleum, 393 00:22:20,268 --> 00:22:22,247 a small and struggling oil company. 394 00:22:24,226 --> 00:22:26,761 [Epstein] As far as the public was concerned, 395 00:22:26,830 --> 00:22:30,581 Armand did not have extra-marital relationships. 396 00:22:30,581 --> 00:22:32,872 But in truth, he always had mistresses, 397 00:22:32,872 --> 00:22:34,956 and he always womanized. 398 00:22:37,246 --> 00:22:41,206 He looked for young women who he could control completely. 399 00:22:43,081 --> 00:22:45,373 You have this page, 400 00:22:45,373 --> 00:22:47,699 you got a lot of pictures of the different women in his life, 401 00:22:47,768 --> 00:22:50,269 but this page, I wanna show the picture up here. 402 00:22:50,269 --> 00:22:52,456 That's a woman named Martha Kauffman... 403 00:22:52,456 --> 00:22:54,018 [Epstein] It was Martha Kauffman, yes. 404 00:22:54,018 --> 00:22:57,561 -...but down here, the same woman is Hilary Gibson... -[Epstein] Right. 405 00:22:57,561 --> 00:23:00,164 ...who are these two people? Are they the same person? 406 00:23:00,998 --> 00:23:03,741 I interviewed Martha Kauffman 407 00:23:03,811 --> 00:23:05,686 also known as Hilary Gibson, 408 00:23:05,686 --> 00:23:08,012 one of Hammer's mistresses. 409 00:23:08,082 --> 00:23:11,936 She told me that his wife, Frances, found out 410 00:23:11,936 --> 00:23:15,304 she was having a liaison with her husband. 411 00:23:15,374 --> 00:23:19,019 Frances laid down the law and said, 412 00:23:19,019 --> 00:23:20,616 "you have to get rid of this woman." 413 00:23:20,686 --> 00:23:23,395 So, rather than give up his mistress, 414 00:23:23,395 --> 00:23:27,978 he found a solution that was typical to the kinds of solutions he found. 415 00:23:27,978 --> 00:23:31,623 He had Martha Kauffman change her name. 416 00:23:32,388 --> 00:23:33,498 Hilary Gibson. 417 00:23:34,888 --> 00:23:37,458 Wear a white wig... 418 00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:41,138 ...and pretended to his wife that she was a different woman. 419 00:23:41,208 --> 00:23:43,534 [interviewer] And Frances, his wife never figured it out? 420 00:23:43,604 --> 00:23:44,922 No. 421 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,269 What he demanded was control of every part of her life 422 00:23:50,269 --> 00:23:51,520 including her identity. 423 00:23:52,701 --> 00:23:55,687 It was all in his nature 424 00:23:55,687 --> 00:23:59,472 of a man who totally wanted to control 425 00:23:59,472 --> 00:24:03,118 a woman that he viewed as a object 426 00:24:03,187 --> 00:24:05,722 not as a human being. 427 00:24:09,368 --> 00:24:12,076 "Martha Kauffman, Armand's mistress, 428 00:24:12,145 --> 00:24:15,618 had to be available to meet his schedule at short notice. 429 00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:19,541 He gave her two beepers to alert her to his calls. 430 00:24:19,541 --> 00:24:22,493 He prohibited her from seeing other men, 431 00:24:22,562 --> 00:24:26,313 and to make sure of her whereabouts in Los Angeles, 432 00:24:26,313 --> 00:24:29,958 he had a homing device installed in her car 433 00:24:29,958 --> 00:24:31,869 and a tap placed on her phone." 434 00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:34,021 ...He had my location on his phone... 435 00:24:34,021 --> 00:24:36,418 "He also controlled her vacation schedule. 436 00:24:37,668 --> 00:24:41,522 She had to submit to his sexual demands 437 00:24:41,522 --> 00:24:45,793 even when she considered them extremely humiliating." 438 00:24:45,793 --> 00:24:48,848 ...something is very degrading, very belittling... 439 00:24:48,918 --> 00:24:50,827 Unfortunately, not shocked. 440 00:24:50,897 --> 00:24:53,640 This is exactly the kind of things... 441 00:24:54,682 --> 00:24:56,314 ...I experienced. This is... 442 00:24:59,231 --> 00:25:00,411 ...extremely humiliating. 443 00:25:02,182 --> 00:25:03,292 I resonate with that. 444 00:25:05,724 --> 00:25:08,953 Armie is so consuming. 445 00:25:10,411 --> 00:25:11,731 He does whatever he wants, but... 446 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:15,307 ...you're his. 447 00:25:15,377 --> 00:25:17,148 Completely. 448 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,808 [Cronkhite] I kept looking more into the archives of newspaper articles 449 00:25:32,878 --> 00:25:37,391 trying to find more content relating to the overlaps 450 00:25:37,391 --> 00:25:39,475 and parallels between each generation. 451 00:25:41,662 --> 00:25:43,607 "Son of Armand Hammer Seized. 452 00:25:43,607 --> 00:25:47,981 Julian Hammer, 47-year-old son of industrialist Armand Hammer 453 00:25:47,981 --> 00:25:51,246 was arrested at his Pacific Palisades home Thursday night 454 00:25:51,316 --> 00:25:55,204 for allegedly threatening a man in his home with a shotgun. 455 00:25:55,204 --> 00:25:58,329 Hammer brandished the weapon after returning home 456 00:25:58,329 --> 00:26:02,288 and finding 19-year-old Gary Bowers there with Cathe Boal, 28. 457 00:26:02,358 --> 00:26:04,892 Hammer reportedly said to Bowers, 458 00:26:04,962 --> 00:26:08,121 'hold it, take another step and I'll blow you apart.'" 459 00:26:11,316 --> 00:26:13,400 [interviewer] 460 00:26:16,316 --> 00:26:17,462 Stop! 461 00:26:17,462 --> 00:26:18,400 [clapper] 462 00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:24,545 [interviewer 2] 463 00:26:24,545 --> 00:26:26,768 You're welcome and Casey's welcome. 464 00:26:26,837 --> 00:26:29,129 I'm doing this for Casey. [chuckling] 465 00:26:31,837 --> 00:26:35,275 I met Julian Hammer in the mid-70s. 466 00:26:35,275 --> 00:26:38,504 He needed someone to come and clean the house 467 00:26:38,504 --> 00:26:40,484 and he offered me the job. 468 00:26:41,630 --> 00:26:43,609 I had just had a child, 469 00:26:43,609 --> 00:26:45,484 so I was able to bring my son up there 470 00:26:45,484 --> 00:26:47,706 while I was cleaning the house. 471 00:26:52,498 --> 00:26:56,213 The first day I came to work, there was a big party going on. 472 00:26:56,213 --> 00:26:57,671 It was a gambling party, 473 00:26:57,671 --> 00:26:58,852 it had been going on for a couple days, apparently. 474 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:04,477 Everybody in Pacific Palisades that lived there 475 00:27:04,547 --> 00:27:05,797 knew about Julian. 476 00:27:09,686 --> 00:27:13,400 He was always in really nice pajamas and a beautiful robe 477 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,998 and slippers and stuff. 478 00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:16,525 That's how he entertained. 479 00:27:18,089 --> 00:27:22,464 Because he was the Hugh Hefner of Pacific Palisades. 480 00:27:24,652 --> 00:27:28,506 As days went on, he started kinda opening up to me 481 00:27:28,506 --> 00:27:33,228 about the real him instead of being the phony 482 00:27:33,297 --> 00:27:36,666 with all of the people coming up and partying and stuff. 483 00:27:38,645 --> 00:27:42,499 He was a real charmer, he knew how to get his way, 484 00:27:42,499 --> 00:27:46,145 and he was just suave, you know, when he wanted to be. 485 00:27:48,124 --> 00:27:50,833 As time went on we just got real close. 486 00:27:53,402 --> 00:27:55,104 When my son was nine months old, 487 00:27:55,172 --> 00:27:59,062 Julian convinced me that I should leave my husband. 488 00:27:59,131 --> 00:28:03,090 We had probably been seeing each other around six months or so 489 00:28:03,090 --> 00:28:05,903 and we, um, got engaged. 490 00:28:07,396 --> 00:28:11,250 He seemed to be more possessive as time went on. 491 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,986 He didn't want me to have any friends. 492 00:28:13,646 --> 00:28:15,382 Just him. 493 00:28:15,382 --> 00:28:19,167 I was naive, really, I guess you might say, 494 00:28:19,237 --> 00:28:22,083 but I thought if I could give him enough love 495 00:28:22,152 --> 00:28:24,236 that maybe I could change him. 496 00:28:24,236 --> 00:28:26,319 Which, of course, you don't change anybody, 497 00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:27,848 but I didn't know that then. 498 00:28:39,688 --> 00:28:44,028 One night, I convinced him that it was time for him to take me out. 499 00:28:44,028 --> 00:28:47,918 And after we had dinner, he wanted to stop at a bar. 500 00:28:47,987 --> 00:28:52,189 -[disco music playing] -♪ I will go away ♪ 501 00:28:52,257 --> 00:28:55,591 Julian started hanging around with the guys in there 502 00:28:55,591 --> 00:28:58,507 and kind of flirting around with the guys. 503 00:28:59,967 --> 00:29:01,980 I got jealous, I didn't like the idea 504 00:29:02,050 --> 00:29:03,613 that he's flirting with these guys. 505 00:29:03,613 --> 00:29:06,530 "Why aren't you flirting with me? Why are you flirting with these guys?" 506 00:29:06,530 --> 00:29:09,897 Then I started realizing it was a gay bar. 507 00:29:09,966 --> 00:29:13,821 ♪ Phunkee man, phunkee man ♪ 508 00:29:13,821 --> 00:29:15,523 He did not want to leave. 509 00:29:17,051 --> 00:29:20,591 I just got so upset, I just walked out of the bar, 510 00:29:20,591 --> 00:29:22,884 walked across the street, put my thumb out. 511 00:29:26,669 --> 00:29:28,197 Within, like, five minutes, 512 00:29:28,197 --> 00:29:30,419 this really nice guy pulled over 513 00:29:30,489 --> 00:29:32,883 and he took me to Julian's house. 514 00:29:34,447 --> 00:29:37,711 And as he started to leave, Julian pulled up. 515 00:29:38,926 --> 00:29:41,114 And that's when everything escalated 516 00:29:41,114 --> 00:29:43,509 'cause Julian saw him at the door... 517 00:29:45,072 --> 00:29:49,031 ...and got upset that a man had brought me home. 518 00:29:51,461 --> 00:29:53,926 The go-to was always a gun. 519 00:29:53,926 --> 00:29:56,253 That was his thing when he got mad like a little baby. 520 00:29:56,323 --> 00:29:58,961 "I'm gonna go get my gun and I'm gonna shoot you." 521 00:29:59,864 --> 00:30:01,739 That was his way to get control. 522 00:30:02,677 --> 00:30:04,343 [faint arguing] 523 00:30:06,878 --> 00:30:08,405 Oh, boy. 524 00:30:09,587 --> 00:30:13,614 "Julian Hammer, 47, son of industrialist Armand Hammer, 525 00:30:13,614 --> 00:30:17,365 was arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon 526 00:30:17,365 --> 00:30:20,212 and released on a $1,000 bail." 527 00:30:21,462 --> 00:30:24,240 Somehow or another I always would give into him 528 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,983 thinking, "all right, this time it'll be better, this time it'll be better." 529 00:30:28,233 --> 00:30:29,449 Unfortunately, it never was. 530 00:30:32,053 --> 00:30:34,761 Few days later, we got in an argument, 531 00:30:34,761 --> 00:30:36,635 and I saw the gun in his hand and I just said, 532 00:30:36,635 --> 00:30:39,345 "you are not gonna pull that gun out on me, 533 00:30:39,345 --> 00:30:40,802 you're not gonna point it at me," 534 00:30:40,802 --> 00:30:42,470 and that's when I went for the gun. 535 00:30:43,650 --> 00:30:44,865 [gunshot] 536 00:30:44,865 --> 00:30:46,011 The gun went off. 537 00:30:47,088 --> 00:30:49,762 My nine-month-old son was in the same room. 538 00:30:49,762 --> 00:30:51,984 He was only a few feet away, 539 00:30:52,052 --> 00:30:54,658 and so it could have ricocheted and hit him and killed him. 540 00:30:56,845 --> 00:30:59,658 So, that was it, I left, that was it, it was over. 541 00:31:01,116 --> 00:31:02,887 [Vitamanti] There's no consequence. 542 00:31:04,067 --> 00:31:06,047 Well, what message are you sending? 543 00:31:07,886 --> 00:31:11,776 "So what? What's gonna happen to me? I'm a Hammer." 544 00:31:13,304 --> 00:31:15,596 Nothing ever happened to Julian 545 00:31:15,596 --> 00:31:19,554 because Armand Hammer had the money to make it go away. 546 00:31:21,742 --> 00:31:23,512 [Cathe Boal] Bottom line, he could do whatever he wanted. 547 00:31:24,276 --> 00:31:25,839 He could get away with murder. 548 00:31:27,089 --> 00:31:28,547 And he did. 549 00:31:37,922 --> 00:31:39,867 [Cronkhite] Armie Hammer's great grandfather, Julian, 550 00:31:39,867 --> 00:31:42,784 was arrested for manslaughter in 1955. 551 00:31:42,784 --> 00:31:45,909 His old friend, Bruce, came to LA to celebrate his birthday, 552 00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:48,860 and reminded him that Julian owed him $400, 553 00:31:48,930 --> 00:31:51,118 and then Julian shot him two times. 554 00:31:51,118 --> 00:31:54,034 This all happened when Sue was pregnant with Armie's father, Michael. 555 00:31:56,152 --> 00:31:59,035 [Casey] The story that he told us was self-defense, 556 00:31:59,902 --> 00:32:03,305 but my mom was very quick to tell me, 557 00:32:03,305 --> 00:32:05,944 "no, your father just murdered someone in cold blood." 558 00:32:07,785 --> 00:32:09,764 [Epstein] Armand Hammer got a phone call 559 00:32:09,764 --> 00:32:11,882 saying that his son had just shot someone. 560 00:32:12,577 --> 00:32:14,660 And so, to save not his son, 561 00:32:15,528 --> 00:32:17,680 but to save his own reputation... 562 00:32:19,139 --> 00:32:24,244 ...he actually delivered $50,000 in cash to his lawyer, 563 00:32:24,244 --> 00:32:28,132 basically quashing the charges against his son, 564 00:32:28,202 --> 00:32:30,910 stopping his son from going to prison for murder. 565 00:32:33,132 --> 00:32:35,494 [Boal] And he didn't even seem like he was really bothered 566 00:32:35,494 --> 00:32:39,174 in that he shot his friend over the gambling debt. 567 00:32:39,244 --> 00:32:42,091 He talked to me just nonchalant about it. 568 00:32:42,161 --> 00:32:44,556 [Casey] You could get away with murder, you could do anything. 569 00:32:44,556 --> 00:32:47,161 There was no accountability. 570 00:32:50,112 --> 00:32:52,195 [Cronkhite] Each generation, 571 00:32:52,265 --> 00:32:55,633 the men learned very early that money makes things go away. 572 00:32:56,675 --> 00:32:58,098 It keeps people quiet. 573 00:32:59,765 --> 00:33:01,536 [Epstein] After the murder, 574 00:33:01,536 --> 00:33:04,974 Julian was given a position by Armand Hammer 575 00:33:04,974 --> 00:33:09,071 at Occidental Petroleum out of the public eye. 576 00:33:10,425 --> 00:33:15,078 Julian eventually began doing things for his father, 577 00:33:15,078 --> 00:33:18,828 illegal things like helping his father 578 00:33:18,828 --> 00:33:23,203 surreptitiously record conversations. 579 00:33:26,432 --> 00:33:29,905 Julian set him up with a hidden microphone 580 00:33:29,975 --> 00:33:32,891 and wired 'em up as we've seen in police movies. 581 00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:37,786 So, he became part of the secretive world. 582 00:33:37,786 --> 00:33:39,662 A spy world, if you want. 583 00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:47,093 Armand Hammer understood the criminal mind. 584 00:33:47,093 --> 00:33:49,697 That if you're wired and have someone on tape, 585 00:33:50,530 --> 00:33:52,197 you have control over them. 586 00:34:07,267 --> 00:34:11,225 [Joseph Finder] The perception of Hammer in the early 1980s 587 00:34:11,225 --> 00:34:14,073 was that he was a humanitarian, 588 00:34:14,142 --> 00:34:16,329 a philanthropist, 589 00:34:16,329 --> 00:34:18,031 he was a billionaire, 590 00:34:18,101 --> 00:34:20,809 basically, whose mission in life 591 00:34:20,809 --> 00:34:23,136 was to bring about world peace. 592 00:34:24,872 --> 00:34:27,719 A few of us who were writing about Hammer 593 00:34:27,788 --> 00:34:33,136 were finding out there was this story there 594 00:34:33,206 --> 00:34:36,365 that the press had not gotten a hold of. 595 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,386 How do you do, ladies and gentlemen. 596 00:34:41,157 --> 00:34:45,324 [Finder] Hammer had successfully buried the story of his past. 597 00:34:46,574 --> 00:34:48,102 [Cronkhite] In the Hammer family tree, 598 00:34:48,102 --> 00:34:50,705 you have Armie Hammer and his father, Michael, 599 00:34:50,705 --> 00:34:53,519 his father, Julian, his father, Armand, 600 00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:55,394 and his father, Julius. 601 00:34:55,394 --> 00:34:57,165 I'm here to talk about Julius. 602 00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:01,226 [Epstein] Julius Hammer had come to America 603 00:35:01,226 --> 00:35:04,769 like many of the Jews of Russia. 604 00:35:05,845 --> 00:35:09,144 He was also a doctor, but more than that, 605 00:35:09,144 --> 00:35:12,998 he became an active politician. 606 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,436 [Finder] Julius Hammer was a founder 607 00:35:16,436 --> 00:35:18,207 of the American Communist Party. 608 00:35:22,582 --> 00:35:26,853 [Epstein] When his son in 1898 was born, 609 00:35:26,853 --> 00:35:31,263 he named him Armand Hammer after the symbol... 610 00:35:32,477 --> 00:35:35,082 ...of the Communist Party in Russia. 611 00:35:35,082 --> 00:35:36,644 The arm and the hammer. 612 00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:44,562 [Finder] The Russians used the Hammer family 613 00:35:44,562 --> 00:35:49,144 through Julius Hammer to channel money into New York, 614 00:35:49,144 --> 00:35:53,833 fund the Communist Party and then steal technology, 615 00:35:53,833 --> 00:35:58,000 and trade secrets from the United States. 616 00:36:00,916 --> 00:36:03,937 After years of research, 617 00:36:03,937 --> 00:36:07,167 the CIA concluded that Armand Hammer 618 00:36:07,167 --> 00:36:11,542 was used to collect information for the KGB. 619 00:36:12,584 --> 00:36:15,500 He was an agent of the Soviet Union. 620 00:36:17,375 --> 00:36:20,222 [Epstein] Armie's great grandfather, Armand Hammer, 621 00:36:20,222 --> 00:36:25,188 goes to Moscow to take over what his father had built there. 622 00:36:27,271 --> 00:36:32,896 [Finder] Armand Hammer became an agent of his father's company. 623 00:36:32,896 --> 00:36:36,438 He was a money launderer, he was a courier 624 00:36:36,438 --> 00:36:40,187 for funds that were channeled 625 00:36:40,187 --> 00:36:44,390 to Soviet espionage in the United States. 626 00:36:44,459 --> 00:36:48,244 It was secret, it was illegal, it was dangerous. 627 00:36:48,244 --> 00:36:52,168 [Epstein] Behind every great fortune is a great crime. 628 00:36:52,168 --> 00:36:54,807 Certainly behind the Hammer fortune... 629 00:36:56,022 --> 00:37:00,744 ...there were a great number of great crimes. 630 00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:11,474 [reporter] The time for successful capitalists 631 00:37:11,544 --> 00:37:14,563 earning profits in the height of communism was over, 632 00:37:14,563 --> 00:37:16,856 and Dr. Armand Hammer decided to leave 633 00:37:16,856 --> 00:37:19,703 because he realized his businesses would never triumph 634 00:37:19,772 --> 00:37:22,065 under Stalin's crushing rule. 635 00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:28,766 [Finder] When Hammer arrived in the U.S. in the early 1930s... 636 00:37:28,836 --> 00:37:32,690 ...there was still this fear of Russia and communism, 637 00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:36,579 so, one of his most important missions 638 00:37:36,648 --> 00:37:38,628 was to bury his past. 639 00:37:38,628 --> 00:37:41,370 Dr. Hammer, I must show this audience a picture of Olga. 640 00:37:43,836 --> 00:37:45,295 This is your first wife here. 641 00:37:45,295 --> 00:37:46,336 There she is. 642 00:37:47,170 --> 00:37:49,808 What didn't fit in with his legend 643 00:37:49,808 --> 00:37:52,898 of being an American who just happened to be in Russia 644 00:37:52,898 --> 00:37:56,753 was that he had a Russian wife and a Russian child 645 00:37:56,753 --> 00:37:59,288 born in Moscow, Julian. 646 00:37:59,356 --> 00:38:01,962 So, he tried to create as much distance as he could. 647 00:38:03,142 --> 00:38:05,607 He even had a paternity test taken 648 00:38:05,607 --> 00:38:10,087 in the hopes that it would show that his son, Julian... 649 00:38:11,337 --> 00:38:12,898 ...was not really his son. 650 00:38:14,288 --> 00:38:16,650 It was very sad when I heard the whole story 651 00:38:16,650 --> 00:38:19,358 from Julian's point of view. 652 00:38:19,358 --> 00:38:23,004 He knew he was always thought of as an embarrassment. 653 00:38:24,462 --> 00:38:25,712 An albatross. 654 00:38:27,413 --> 00:38:31,129 So, the relationship between Armand and Julian 655 00:38:31,129 --> 00:38:34,463 was a relationship of a father trying to hide... 656 00:38:35,747 --> 00:38:36,753 ...his son. 657 00:38:36,753 --> 00:38:39,567 And his only son from the world. 658 00:38:48,525 --> 00:38:51,337 [Casey] My father and brother hated each other. 659 00:38:51,337 --> 00:38:55,227 They constantly were arguing and bickering and fighting. 660 00:38:55,297 --> 00:38:57,172 But on the outside in front of Grandpa, 661 00:38:57,172 --> 00:38:59,498 they were patting each other on the back 662 00:38:59,498 --> 00:39:01,234 and being so phony and superficial. 663 00:39:02,831 --> 00:39:05,401 My brother wanted to surpass my father, 664 00:39:05,401 --> 00:39:07,484 but my father wasn't gonna let that happen. 665 00:39:08,839 --> 00:39:11,998 [Boal] Julian was very jealous of Michael. That I saw. 666 00:39:11,998 --> 00:39:15,019 He was very jealous, he was very rough on Michael. 667 00:39:15,089 --> 00:39:16,338 Very mean to Michael. 668 00:39:17,379 --> 00:39:19,567 I did see a pattern there. 669 00:39:19,567 --> 00:39:22,588 That Julian, I think, was hard on his children 670 00:39:22,588 --> 00:39:25,506 because Armand was hard on Julian. 671 00:39:36,339 --> 00:39:38,249 The second trip I took from Washington 672 00:39:38,318 --> 00:39:40,645 down to visit my father... 673 00:39:42,311 --> 00:39:44,395 ...everyone was drinking way too much... 674 00:39:45,228 --> 00:39:47,589 [music playing in background] 675 00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:49,499 [Casey] ...and my father offered my brother 676 00:39:49,499 --> 00:39:51,478 $1 million for his girlfriend. 677 00:39:51,548 --> 00:39:53,666 [faint arguing] 678 00:39:54,776 --> 00:39:58,319 My brother, it was like a monster unleashed. 679 00:40:01,548 --> 00:40:05,819 They both said, "I'm gonna kill you," and they ran outside, 680 00:40:05,819 --> 00:40:09,291 and when I finally circled the building, 681 00:40:09,291 --> 00:40:12,278 I saw police had separated them. 682 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,341 The cops didn't arrest either one of 'em, 683 00:40:16,341 --> 00:40:20,646 and let them both drive away intoxicated as they were, 684 00:40:20,716 --> 00:40:24,188 and Michael's girlfriend ended up going with my father 685 00:40:24,257 --> 00:40:28,008 quote unquote to tame the situation. 686 00:40:29,674 --> 00:40:31,792 She was older than most of the girls. 687 00:40:31,862 --> 00:40:34,709 Probably 19. 688 00:40:34,779 --> 00:40:38,251 She ended up living with my father for, like, another eight months. 689 00:40:43,563 --> 00:40:47,279 When I graduated from high school, my grandfather said, 690 00:40:47,279 --> 00:40:50,959 "you're now going to the University of San Diego because your brother's there." 691 00:40:52,938 --> 00:40:56,341 USD was a Catholic private school, 692 00:40:56,341 --> 00:40:58,424 2000 students, so, it was very small. 693 00:41:01,238 --> 00:41:03,668 Michael was larger than life on the campus, 694 00:41:03,737 --> 00:41:05,647 meaning he had a reputation. 695 00:41:05,716 --> 00:41:09,675 Him and his friends are partying and just, um, all kinds of things. 696 00:41:11,446 --> 00:41:14,987 Michael was the life-of-the-party guy. 697 00:41:14,987 --> 00:41:17,175 He was the leader of the guys. 698 00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:19,467 When their group would come in, 699 00:41:19,467 --> 00:41:21,863 Michael would always be front and center. 700 00:41:22,731 --> 00:41:25,718 He was almost the stereotypical 701 00:41:25,718 --> 00:41:29,189 wealthy kid that you see in teen movies. 702 00:41:29,259 --> 00:41:31,481 What was his, uh, slogan? 703 00:41:31,551 --> 00:41:35,231 I think he even wanted T-shirts made that said, "Decadence, a way of life." 704 00:41:37,071 --> 00:41:39,468 [family friend] He kind of always had a different girl. 705 00:41:39,468 --> 00:41:43,252 It would be one of those things where, you know, 706 00:41:43,321 --> 00:41:45,300 "Do we really have to get to know her? 707 00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,315 There will just be a new one next week." 708 00:41:48,253 --> 00:41:51,239 It didn't matter what room he was in, 709 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,717 he commanded your attention, he wanted your attention. 710 00:41:55,717 --> 00:41:58,461 Almost every single one 711 00:41:58,531 --> 00:42:01,239 of Casey's closest friends 712 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,573 ended up sleeping with Michael at some point or another. 713 00:42:06,865 --> 00:42:10,719 [Casey] One night, I had found a photo album in his closet. 714 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,045 And it was a lot of naked people 715 00:42:13,115 --> 00:42:14,677 in the pictures, like an orgy, 716 00:42:14,677 --> 00:42:17,733 and there was cash, and there were drugs, 717 00:42:17,802 --> 00:42:20,024 and there was a gun in the closet as well. 718 00:42:22,212 --> 00:42:24,399 Michael was mirroring my father 719 00:42:24,469 --> 00:42:28,114 and showing early signs of what my father was like. 720 00:42:28,114 --> 00:42:30,441 It was scary. 721 00:42:33,045 --> 00:42:34,921 [Wendy Williams] My name is Wendy Williams. 722 00:42:34,990 --> 00:42:38,462 Casey Hammer and Michael Hammer 723 00:42:38,531 --> 00:42:39,990 are my cousins. 724 00:42:41,552 --> 00:42:44,366 I thought that they were just wealthy, 725 00:42:44,366 --> 00:42:47,178 they had this wonderful life, 726 00:42:47,178 --> 00:42:49,921 when it was not like that at all. 727 00:42:52,491 --> 00:42:56,380 Michael was pretty reckless when he was younger. 728 00:42:58,219 --> 00:42:59,470 I remember Armand Hammer 729 00:42:59,470 --> 00:43:02,908 coming in to intervene with Michael. 730 00:43:04,088 --> 00:43:07,526 He was making very specific demands 731 00:43:07,594 --> 00:43:10,304 of how Michael's life was going to be. 732 00:43:11,241 --> 00:43:12,942 Basically, there would be no money 733 00:43:13,012 --> 00:43:16,588 unless he cleaned up his life 734 00:43:16,658 --> 00:43:18,984 and did what Armand... 735 00:43:20,234 --> 00:43:21,276 ...wanted. 736 00:43:22,388 --> 00:43:25,513 Which was, come work for the company. 737 00:43:28,776 --> 00:43:31,763 [family friend] It always appeared that Michael 738 00:43:31,763 --> 00:43:33,672 was the Hammer heir. 739 00:43:34,471 --> 00:43:37,214 And Casey was, 740 00:43:37,284 --> 00:43:39,089 for a lack of a better way to say it, 741 00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:44,818 "Just be nice and be pretty and we'll take care of you." 742 00:43:44,888 --> 00:43:48,325 [Casey] Michael had gotten back into graces with my grandfather 743 00:43:48,325 --> 00:43:50,826 and then was hired at Oxy. 744 00:43:51,972 --> 00:43:54,055 And so, Michael saw 745 00:43:54,055 --> 00:43:56,902 he could try and manipulate my grandfather, 746 00:43:56,972 --> 00:44:00,652 or get, you know, above my father's hierarchy. 747 00:44:03,777 --> 00:44:06,555 [orchestra playing] 748 00:44:06,555 --> 00:44:10,027 [woman singing] ♪ Happy birthday ♪ 749 00:44:10,096 --> 00:44:11,590 ♪ To you ♪ 750 00:44:11,660 --> 00:44:16,242 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 751 00:44:16,242 --> 00:44:18,326 [Casey] Grandpa would throw parties all the time. 752 00:44:19,611 --> 00:44:21,382 We would get invited, 753 00:44:21,451 --> 00:44:24,994 and it was a select few 2,000 of his closest friends. 754 00:44:26,903 --> 00:44:29,716 And it was who's who in Hollywood if you got invited. 755 00:44:29,784 --> 00:44:34,055 It's now my great privilege to introduce Mr. Gregory Peck. 756 00:44:34,055 --> 00:44:36,348 [jazz music playing] 757 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,036 [Casey] It was a huge deal when they were like, 758 00:44:46,036 --> 00:44:49,473 "Armand Hammer is hosting Prince Charles and Lady Diana." 759 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:57,112 So, yeah, it was pretty cool when you got to tell people that you were there. 760 00:44:59,508 --> 00:45:01,870 My father was forced to show up 761 00:45:01,870 --> 00:45:03,953 at a function or a party, 762 00:45:03,953 --> 00:45:06,487 and just didn't wanna have anything to do with it. 763 00:45:07,911 --> 00:45:10,724 Whereas my brother wanted it so deeply... 764 00:45:11,974 --> 00:45:15,723 ...to take his place as heir apparent to the throne. 765 00:45:18,988 --> 00:45:22,704 I tried watching the HBO show Succession. 766 00:45:23,884 --> 00:45:25,724 I got through three episodes... 767 00:45:26,662 --> 00:45:28,051 ...and I had to turn it off. 768 00:45:31,176 --> 00:45:33,259 Everyone's brown-nosing each other 769 00:45:33,328 --> 00:45:37,842 and saying fake stuff, and everyone hates each other on the inside, 770 00:45:37,912 --> 00:45:40,933 but on the outside they're all pretending to get along. 771 00:45:40,933 --> 00:45:44,371 Magnify Succession a million times, 772 00:45:44,371 --> 00:45:47,600 and it was literally my family. 773 00:45:56,767 --> 00:45:59,301 Michael was 27, 28, when he first met 774 00:45:59,370 --> 00:46:01,871 Armie's mother, Dru. 775 00:46:04,683 --> 00:46:07,948 He was flying first class and he was really drunk, 776 00:46:08,017 --> 00:46:10,760 and I guess Dru was sitting next to him. 777 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,121 And she said before she got off the airplane, 778 00:46:13,121 --> 00:46:14,476 she was planning to marry him. 779 00:46:16,594 --> 00:46:19,302 She was very religious 780 00:46:19,371 --> 00:46:23,018 and very not like what Michael goes out with. 781 00:46:23,018 --> 00:46:24,789 So when he got off the airplane 782 00:46:24,789 --> 00:46:26,802 and he was saying, "I met someone," 783 00:46:26,872 --> 00:46:28,330 we were all like, "Sure, okay." 784 00:46:28,330 --> 00:46:30,552 And then when we met Dru, 785 00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:33,955 we just thought, "Oh, that's never gonna last." 786 00:46:33,955 --> 00:46:38,121 But my grandfather rolled out the red carpet for her and her parents. 787 00:46:39,163 --> 00:46:41,698 He wanted Michael and Dru to get married, 788 00:46:41,768 --> 00:46:46,143 because this was a wholesome, Tulsa, wealthy family 789 00:46:46,143 --> 00:46:48,365 that was very religious, 790 00:46:48,365 --> 00:46:53,227 and my grandfather believed that Dru could change Michael. 791 00:46:53,227 --> 00:46:57,220 After we got out of college, Michael came over one night to Casey's house 792 00:46:57,290 --> 00:47:01,039 and introduced this woman as his fiance, and we got to know her. 793 00:47:02,637 --> 00:47:05,311 But then he was with other girls 794 00:47:05,311 --> 00:47:07,602 who went out with us, 795 00:47:07,602 --> 00:47:09,720 and, you know, we would ask questions like, 796 00:47:09,790 --> 00:47:13,019 "Oh, did you break up with your fiance?" 797 00:47:13,019 --> 00:47:16,491 "No, no, she's fine. She just couldn't come out tonight." 798 00:47:20,415 --> 00:47:24,165 [Casey] When they got married, it was a big, elaborate, to-do in Tulsa 799 00:47:24,165 --> 00:47:26,977 where who's who was invited. 800 00:47:26,977 --> 00:47:28,019 It was a giant wedding. 801 00:47:29,686 --> 00:47:31,908 When Dru gave birth to Armie, 802 00:47:31,978 --> 00:47:34,513 they would parade him around to Grandpa's. 803 00:47:34,582 --> 00:47:36,596 Everyone fawned all over him. 804 00:47:39,166 --> 00:47:42,187 I remember being at Michael and Dru's house in the Palisades. 805 00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:46,075 Armie, just this little, cute towhead little boy, 806 00:47:46,145 --> 00:47:48,020 comes up to me. 807 00:47:48,020 --> 00:47:49,374 And Michael says, "Are you gonna give 808 00:47:49,374 --> 00:47:51,458 your aunt Casey a hug goodbye?" 809 00:47:51,458 --> 00:47:53,645 [laughing] And he kicked me in the shins. 810 00:47:55,833 --> 00:47:58,541 I was like, "You're such a little brat." 811 00:47:58,541 --> 00:48:03,332 But God forbid you touch or say anything bad to Armie. 812 00:48:03,332 --> 00:48:06,493 He was given Armand Douglas Hammer, after my grandfather. 813 00:48:07,638 --> 00:48:10,000 He was the prince, the crown, 814 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,707 the continuation of the Hammer name, 815 00:48:12,707 --> 00:48:14,791 so the whole Hammer family could live again 816 00:48:14,791 --> 00:48:16,493 in a whole another generation. 817 00:48:23,472 --> 00:48:25,625 -Armand Hammer-- -Dr. Armand Hammer-- 818 00:48:25,625 --> 00:48:28,126 Self-made millionaire Armand Hammer is dead. 819 00:48:28,126 --> 00:48:30,416 He died last night at the age of 92. 820 00:48:34,583 --> 00:48:38,438 [Casey] I was living in Hawaii when I got a phone call 821 00:48:38,438 --> 00:48:41,077 that my grandfather had passed. 822 00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:43,195 And... 823 00:48:44,723 --> 00:48:46,876 ...it was the phone call that you never thought 824 00:48:46,876 --> 00:48:48,751 was gonna happen. It was from Michael. 825 00:48:50,105 --> 00:48:54,064 I remember dropping the phone... 826 00:48:55,210 --> 00:48:59,792 ...and the room spinning. 827 00:48:59,792 --> 00:49:03,439 [newscaster 1] Armand Hammer, philanthropist, art collector, and industrialist... 828 00:49:03,439 --> 00:49:06,911 It was a huge deal. The coverage was incredible. 829 00:49:06,980 --> 00:49:10,140 [newscaster 2] From 1921, Hammer was making deals... 830 00:49:10,209 --> 00:49:14,689 [Casey] I just remember being at the airport getting ready to board my flight, 831 00:49:14,689 --> 00:49:18,856 and on all the monitors and TV screens, "Armand Hammer Dies." 832 00:49:18,856 --> 00:49:21,599 [newscaster 3] Armand Hammer, the son of one of the founders 833 00:49:21,668 --> 00:49:24,620 of the American Communist Party, acquired Occidental... 834 00:49:24,689 --> 00:49:26,668 [Casey] You couldn't get away from it. 835 00:49:27,224 --> 00:49:28,960 It was just surreal. 836 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,085 I hope that when I pass on, I will have left the world 837 00:49:32,085 --> 00:49:34,203 a little better than when I found it. 838 00:49:40,836 --> 00:49:42,607 [Casey] Michael had called me, 839 00:49:42,607 --> 00:49:46,878 and Grandpa was still dead on the bed 840 00:49:46,878 --> 00:49:48,961 while he was looting the house. 841 00:49:50,558 --> 00:49:53,128 There were five vans out front, 842 00:49:53,128 --> 00:49:55,940 and Michael and Dru bringing down tapestries 843 00:49:55,940 --> 00:49:58,023 and taking things from the house. 844 00:49:59,204 --> 00:50:00,837 I had flown in that morning. 845 00:50:00,837 --> 00:50:04,587 I rented a car and I remember driving to my father's house. 846 00:50:04,587 --> 00:50:08,579 I was just trying to make sense of everything. 847 00:50:08,649 --> 00:50:12,087 Few days later, we were called into Arthur Groman's office, 848 00:50:12,087 --> 00:50:15,212 who was my grandfather's best friend and attorney, 849 00:50:15,212 --> 00:50:17,815 and that was where the reading of the will was. 850 00:50:23,372 --> 00:50:26,497 Michael was on my right and my father was across from me. 851 00:50:28,441 --> 00:50:32,192 Arthur Groman's reading through it and saying, 852 00:50:32,192 --> 00:50:33,893 "And I leave my granddaughter, 853 00:50:33,962 --> 00:50:38,476 Casey Layne Hammer, $250,000 in cash." 854 00:50:38,545 --> 00:50:40,837 Let's see what else. 855 00:50:40,837 --> 00:50:43,442 "And I leave Julian Hammer, my son... 856 00:50:44,726 --> 00:50:46,601 ...$500,000. 857 00:50:46,671 --> 00:50:49,831 Pay off his house and car and debts. 858 00:50:51,185 --> 00:50:55,734 And I leave Michael Armand Hammer the Rolls-Royce." 859 00:50:55,734 --> 00:50:58,859 [child laughing] 860 00:50:58,859 --> 00:51:02,088 [Casey] And then the last paragraph or so was, 861 00:51:02,088 --> 00:51:04,414 "And the executor of the estate 862 00:51:05,213 --> 00:51:06,810 is Michael Armand Hammer 863 00:51:07,505 --> 00:51:10,837 and his wife, Dru Ann Hammer." 864 00:51:13,998 --> 00:51:16,568 My grandfather had 865 00:51:16,568 --> 00:51:19,102 $40 million of cash left. 866 00:51:21,290 --> 00:51:23,373 I got $250,000, 867 00:51:23,373 --> 00:51:25,457 my father got $500,000... 868 00:51:26,603 --> 00:51:29,172 ...everything else got passed on to Michael. 869 00:51:30,214 --> 00:51:32,402 At that point, you're like, "Wait, what?" 870 00:51:33,755 --> 00:51:36,707 You don't think you're hearing any of it. 871 00:51:38,548 --> 00:51:42,610 And my father starts going off, 872 00:51:42,610 --> 00:51:45,041 "What do you mean, you get the Rolls-Royce? 873 00:51:45,110 --> 00:51:47,541 I want the Rolls-Royce." And I'm like, 874 00:51:47,610 --> 00:51:49,694 in my mind, thinking, 875 00:51:49,694 --> 00:51:52,610 "You don't even understand the gravity of what just happened." 876 00:51:53,444 --> 00:51:55,770 It made no sense. 877 00:51:55,839 --> 00:51:58,444 And when I asked when the new will was signed... 878 00:51:59,486 --> 00:52:01,812 ...it was in October. 879 00:52:01,881 --> 00:52:04,172 Forty days later, my grandfather died. 880 00:52:16,916 --> 00:52:19,174 [Epstein] The expectation of his family members 881 00:52:19,174 --> 00:52:21,604 was he was a billionaire. 882 00:52:21,673 --> 00:52:23,756 And then when his will was read... 883 00:52:25,216 --> 00:52:26,570 ...they learned that he wasn't. 884 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,883 He had given away most of his money. 885 00:52:34,209 --> 00:52:38,167 So, the Hammer family was left basically fighting among themselves. 886 00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:44,209 Michael decided he would grab as much of the money 887 00:52:44,279 --> 00:52:46,605 and as much of the power as he could, 888 00:52:46,674 --> 00:52:50,042 and as executive, there were very few people to oppose him. 889 00:52:52,647 --> 00:52:55,147 [Casey] It was like checkmate. 890 00:52:55,216 --> 00:52:58,341 Michael was putting the screws to my father and I, 891 00:52:58,341 --> 00:53:00,946 and my brother told my mother, 892 00:53:00,946 --> 00:53:03,758 "Casey's just a casualty," 893 00:53:03,758 --> 00:53:06,397 because he hated my father so much, 894 00:53:06,397 --> 00:53:08,029 he wanted him out on the street. 895 00:53:10,737 --> 00:53:15,356 To have Michael, who professed himself as a man of God, 896 00:53:15,425 --> 00:53:17,752 doing this to my father and myself... 897 00:53:22,023 --> 00:53:25,321 ...it's not about the inheritance as much as it is about 898 00:53:26,155 --> 00:53:27,508 just being acknowledged. 899 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,843 I was completely left out. 900 00:53:32,197 --> 00:53:34,696 That's really sad when you realize that 901 00:53:34,696 --> 00:53:38,586 [voice shaking] you don't have any family or anybody who love you. 902 00:53:42,856 --> 00:53:44,732 I don't know how to process all of that. 903 00:53:45,565 --> 00:53:47,023 I just, um... 904 00:53:48,238 --> 00:53:49,280 ...yeah. 905 00:53:51,398 --> 00:53:52,927 It didn't end well. 906 00:54:02,822 --> 00:54:06,086 Armie talked a lot about the evilness 907 00:54:06,156 --> 00:54:08,691 of the men in his family. 908 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,510 His dad, his grandpa, his great-grandpa. 909 00:54:12,510 --> 00:54:15,462 But he didn't sound like he was ashamed of it. 910 00:54:15,531 --> 00:54:18,761 It's almost like it was a badge of honor. 911 00:54:26,816 --> 00:54:29,178 After the Sedona night with the ropes, 912 00:54:29,178 --> 00:54:31,712 Armie's pulling me even closer. 913 00:54:36,087 --> 00:54:39,629 We go to Dallas and meet his mom. 914 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,046 He warned me that it would be interesting. 915 00:54:46,817 --> 00:54:49,386 And that, it was. 916 00:54:51,262 --> 00:54:55,324 She's just like Armie, she's gorgeous, tall, really beautiful. 917 00:54:56,783 --> 00:54:58,484 They both command a room. 918 00:54:58,553 --> 00:55:00,150 You know, they have a presence. 919 00:55:03,033 --> 00:55:06,921 At dinner, Armie was talking 920 00:55:06,991 --> 00:55:10,463 negatively about his father. 921 00:55:10,532 --> 00:55:14,005 And she just blurted out, "You need to give him some slack, 922 00:55:14,075 --> 00:55:17,304 because this happened to him 923 00:55:17,304 --> 00:55:20,117 when he was younger." 924 00:55:21,505 --> 00:55:25,325 And it was something that I should not have been there for. 925 00:55:30,151 --> 00:55:34,214 Nobody could have been prepared for what I heard that night. 926 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,637 It was just some deep-rooted family trauma. 927 00:55:45,326 --> 00:55:48,277 [producer] 72698

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