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[Casey Hammer] My grandfather
lived in Holmby Hills,
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which is the neighborhood
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right between
Wilshire Boulevard
and Sunset
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in Westwood.
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It's the elite of the elite.
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And now, we're gonna come
up on the right side,
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is my grandfather's house.
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There's his house,
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and we would park
right here in front,
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and then we would get up
and race up the stairs.
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And that front window
was Grandpa's office.
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[newscaster] As president
of Occidental Petroleum,
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Armand Hammer turned it
into the 11th largest
oil company
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in the United States.
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[Casey] The Hammer name
wielded a lot of prestige
and power.
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[man] And the two
grandchildren,
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Michael and Casey,
would you please stand up?
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[Casey] We were always
hanging out with royalty
at these parties,
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and we would get training,
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and we would learn
how to address the royalty.
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It was just this
kind of secret society,
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kind of inner circle
of the elite.
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[Prince Charles] How on Earth
do they expect us
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to get anything done
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without money?
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[Casey] People were so curious
about that lifestyle,
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about all that wealth.
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On the outside,
we were a perfect family.
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-[woman] Hi, Casey!
-Come on in.
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Watch your step.
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But beneath it all was
a dark world of deceit,
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betrayal, and corruption...
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...and that's why
I'm coming forward now.
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It's time to stop the cycle.
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So, this is a picture
of the Hammer family,
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and there's my father, Julian.
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I'm standing behind him.
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You have my brother, Michael,
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and then,
in the center of the shot
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is my grandfather,
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and he's holding Armie.
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[man] How did Armie Hammer
go from Hollywood golden boy
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to an alleged abuser
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in the space
of one evening in January?
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[woman] When all this
came out about Armie,
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I was not shocked.
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[newscaster] Sexually graphic
texts and DMs
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of dominating, BDSM,
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and even cannibalism
began trending.
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[woman] This behavior,
it's deep-rooted.
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[Casey] My father,
Julian Hammer,
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is Armie's grandfather.
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When my mother met my father,
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they ended up in Tijuana,
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drunk on the back
of a motorcycle,
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and getting married.
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And my mother had no idea
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that my father was
Armand Hammer's son.
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Had no idea about the wealth,
had no idea about any of it.
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And then, when my father
got married,
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my grandfather decided
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that my father needed
to be responsible
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now that he had a wife.
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I was born in 1960.
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We moved to Pacific Palisades,
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which was near the coast
in California.
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But my father was such a mess.
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He was always drunk,
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and you just never knew
what kind of condition
he was in.
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There was a lot going on
behind closed doors.
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Christmases were probably
my favorite time of year.
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It was a big deal.
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It was like
a department store.
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We all got piles and piles
of Christmas presents.
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That's my brother, Michael,
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Armie's father...
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...and there he is,
riding a little motorcycle.
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I should be
somewhere in there.
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I remember one year,
it was Christmas Eve.
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I was young, maybe five,
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and I still believed
in Santa Claus.
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[distant shouting]
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After I had gone to bed,
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I heard screaming.
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[indistinct shouting]
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My father and mother
were fighting,
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and he was threatening
to kill her.
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[arguing continues]
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-[slaps]
-[woman yelps]
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[Casey] My father slapped
my mom really hard,
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and I just remember
seeing blood splatter.
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She made me go back to my room
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and told me that everything
was gonna be okay,
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and if I didn't
go right to sleep,
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Santa Claus wasn't gonna come.
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As a little girl,
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when you're seeing your mom
get beat up by your father,
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and blood running down
the front of her body,
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and her screaming,
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you don't really understand
what's happening.
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I can't tell you
how many times
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I would get under my covers
as a little girl
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and put my fingers
in my ears and sing...
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...because I didn't
wanna hear the noise.
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I didn't wanna hear
the screaming...
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...because you can't
make it stop.
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As we got older, my father...
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He just got worse
and worse and worse.
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In the middle of the night,
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my mom would collect me,
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and we would grab
what we could
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and get in the car
and drive down the hill
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and go to a motel...
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...and wait until the sun
came up...
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...until my father
cooled down,
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and then we would go
back to the house.
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That happened a lot.
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It always escalated.
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You didn't know
what was gonna happen next.
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My mom had been
threatening to leave.
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But my grandfather
always said,
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"If you leave my son,
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I'll ruin you and make
your life miserable,"
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and, you know,
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"You won't have a penny."
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My grandfather had very
powerful attorneys back then.
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The public persona
turned into,
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"I can take everything
away from you
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with one stroke of the pen."
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So it was a frightening,
scary energy
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that my grandfather had.
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The Hammer family name
had to be pristine.
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You couldn't be the reason
for the black mark.
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While my grandfather
was alive,
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you played by his rules,
or you got cut off.
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We were taught
that Big Brother's
always watching.
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You can't get away from it.
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My grandfather had files
on anybody you dated
or any of your friends.
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[telephone ringing]
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[Casey on recording] You would
pick up your phone
to talk to someone,
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and you would hear a click,
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and you knew
you were being recorded.
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You didn't make a move
without thinking about,
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"What if Grandpa finds out?"
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[Mariann Vitamanti]
Casey's grandfather
controlled his family.
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He controlled everything.
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That has to be scary,
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to know that there are people
watching you all the time.
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"Walk the straight and narrow.
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I see you.
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You don't see me,
but I see you."
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[Casey] I like to say
that our lives were
like a chessboard,
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and my grandfather basically
controlled all the moves.
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[applause]
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But I had no idea
about half of the things
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my grandfather did
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and how powerful
he really was.
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-[all applauding]
-[host] Well, look
who is here.
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He happens to be
president and CEO
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of Occidental Petroleum
in Los Angeles.
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Maybe I should say he is
also one of the wealthiest
men in the world.
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Please welcome
Dr. Armand Hammer.
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[applause]
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[Casey] My grandfather built
an oil empire
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that up until his death
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was, I believe,
the 16th largest company
in the world.
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[host] Well, that's
a pretty good hand
for a rich guy.
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Everything he touched
turned to gold.
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[Neil Lyndon] I worked
for Armand Hammer
from 1986 to 1989
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as one of his political
and media consultants.
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And I saw him exercise
access around the world
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which was unparalleled
for a private individual.
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He could, at will,
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enter the Kremlin.
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I help him, he helps me.
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It is mutual.
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We do not discuss secrets,
just business.
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[Lyndon] Buckingham Palace,
the White House...
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They were all at his disposal
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and at his bidding.
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[machine beeps]
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-[John F. Kennedy] Mr. Hammer?
-[Armand Hammer] Yes?
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[John F. Kennedy] Oh, this is
the President, how are you?
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[Armand Hammer] Oh, hello,
President Kennedy, I'm glad
to hear from you again.
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[Casey] I remember once
asking my grandfather
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why he wasn't President
of the United States,
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and he laughed
and said there wasn't
enough power in it.
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I mean, even now,
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people are still
so fascinated.
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This stuff didn't start
with Armie.
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He is the great-grandson
of Armand Hammer,
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an oil tycoon
whose son, Julian,
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who would be Armie's
grandfather, was insane.
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He beat the living daylights
out of his wife...
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I was definitely
pulling in eyeballs,
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like, just by sharing
the things that I was
looking into.
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I had so many tips coming in,
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and it wasn't just
tips about Armie.
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It was just tips
about the whole family.
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[clicks]
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By virtue of sharing
the story,
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Candice and I found each other
on Instagram,
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and we started talking
about the case.
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I didn't even know
who Armand Hammer was,
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and looking into him
and his son,
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and his son after that,
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and then Armie,
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it was so many people
in this family that had
a sort of history.
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[Lauren Skae] People were
absolutely dumbfounded.
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What are the odds
that there would be
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so many generations
of a family
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behaving so badly?
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What became
readily apparent to us
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was that there was still
a lot of things to uncover.
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[Casey] My mom had always said
that she stayed with my father
as long as she did
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because of my grandfather.
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So, it was a never-ending
cycle for a very long time.
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But then finally, I was 11,
and she'd had enough,
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and we went
down the street
to the motel...
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...and this time,
we didn't go back.
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When my parents got divorced,
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my grandfather kept
to his word,
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and my father destroyed
my mother in court.
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My father ended up
only paying, like,
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$200 a month's child support.
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My mom said that
the biggest regret of her life
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was letting Michael decide
to stay with my father.
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It was a while
before my mother let me
go down and visit my father.
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I just remember,
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it was the house I grew up in,
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so it was familiar,
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but yet, there were
tons of people.
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It was a lot of drinking...
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...a lot of
smoke-filled rooms,
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a lot of screaming,
a lot of loud music...
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...a lot of drugs.
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He always had, like,
16 or 17-year-old
girls around,
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not much older than I was,
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five or six years older,
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and he called them
his "housekeepers."
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[man laughing]
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It was code
for his girlfriends.
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I believe it was...
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...sexual, in a sense
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where they were usually
sitting on each other's laps
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or kissing or fondling
each other.
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It was almost
like giant orgies.
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Michael, my brother,
would bring his friends
up to party,
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and they would
hit on them, as well.
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The drugs were free-flowing,
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so it was a very
free atmosphere.
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Casey was one
of my best friends.
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I don't remember
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when the first time
I met Mike was,
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but he was always around.
256
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Casey and I would go
to Julian's,
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her father's house.
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As you walk in,
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there was a big bowl
of cocaine
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and a very, kind of,
"help yourself" attitude.
261
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It was an environment
where old men
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and young girls
and cocaine, and...
263
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It was shocking.
264
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[camera shutter clicks]
265
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Your parents aren't
supposed to do that.
266
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One time at a party,
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I had come out of my bedroom
the next morning,
268
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and everyone was passed out
all over the floor.
269
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I remember walking
by the couch,
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and there were
polaroid pictures of one
of my father's housekeepers,
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and at the time, I thought
she was eating an ice cream,
272
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because that's what you did
when you were little.
273
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I kept looking at the pictures
274
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trying to figure out
what was happening,
275
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and that's how I realized
that it wasn't an ice cream,
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that it was attached to a man.
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One of the pictures,
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in the background was
this figure in the corner,
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in a chair, watching.
280
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I recognized that that
was my father.
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Being born in that family
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and watching the behavior,
283
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it was my normal.
284
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I mean, how do you know
it's wrong when that's
all you know?
285
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So, when my father
and my brother
286
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surrounded themselves with
young, impressionable women
287
00:16:23,903 --> 00:16:26,091
that would basically do
anything that they asked...
288
00:16:27,133 --> 00:16:29,632
...that was
the mentality I saw.
289
00:16:30,883 --> 00:16:33,279
Women were disposable
in the Hammer family.
290
00:16:49,251 --> 00:16:52,342
[Armie Hammer] So, [sighs]
I had to move rooms.
291
00:16:52,342 --> 00:16:53,835
They had to move my room
292
00:16:53,904 --> 00:16:55,778
'cause of some, like,
noise complaints or something.
293
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I think they said it was 417.
294
00:17:00,814 --> 00:17:02,376
Oh, here it is.
295
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[Candice Cronkhite]
A major news publication
posted a video,
296
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and it showed Armie
holding his phone,
297
00:17:11,231 --> 00:17:12,551
walking into his room.
298
00:17:12,551 --> 00:17:15,155
[Armie] All right,
so far, so good.
299
00:17:16,404 --> 00:17:18,523
Uh, that bed looks
pretty comfy.
300
00:17:18,523 --> 00:17:23,280
[Cronkhite] He just
glosses over a woman
on all fours in lingerie
301
00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,779
and goes out and shows
out the balcony.
302
00:17:25,779 --> 00:17:27,655
[Armie] Yeah, boy!
303
00:17:27,655 --> 00:17:29,252
It's like, "Look how much
power I have.
304
00:17:29,322 --> 00:17:31,648
I have a lady
just sitting right here,
305
00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:34,530
waiting for me to do
whatever I ask her to
306
00:17:34,530 --> 00:17:35,885
and she's staying quiet."
307
00:17:35,885 --> 00:17:37,342
[cell phone chimes]
308
00:17:41,857 --> 00:17:45,780
I was getting
information via DMs
309
00:17:45,780 --> 00:17:48,281
saying that this is
his Finsta account,
310
00:17:48,281 --> 00:17:49,982
"el-_destructo-_86."
311
00:17:51,198 --> 00:17:54,113
Finsta just means
"fake Instagram."
312
00:17:54,113 --> 00:17:56,093
and these are often
used by celebrities
313
00:17:56,093 --> 00:17:57,378
that have a private account
314
00:17:57,448 --> 00:17:58,802
separate from
their public ones.
315
00:18:00,155 --> 00:18:01,823
On this private
Instagram account,
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00:18:01,823 --> 00:18:04,357
he basically posted
anything he wanted.
317
00:18:04,426 --> 00:18:07,378
Where his public one
was very curated,
318
00:18:07,447 --> 00:18:10,295
this one, he was
posting videos
319
00:18:10,365 --> 00:18:12,864
of him engaging
in sexual things,
320
00:18:12,864 --> 00:18:14,358
him doing drugs.
321
00:18:16,337 --> 00:18:18,316
It was pretty wild.
322
00:18:19,566 --> 00:18:22,031
He really wasn't hiding
what he was doing.
323
00:18:24,218 --> 00:18:27,587
He had posted a picture
of him on the toilet
324
00:18:27,657 --> 00:18:29,740
with a drug test, saying,
325
00:18:29,740 --> 00:18:34,531
"All negative.
My body is a finely tuned
toxicant processing unit."
326
00:18:34,531 --> 00:18:39,116
Indicating that
he definitely took drugs
and he passed a drug test.
327
00:18:39,116 --> 00:18:40,470
Shit's getting weird.
328
00:18:45,156 --> 00:18:46,198
[man] More, one more.
329
00:18:48,387 --> 00:18:51,234
[smacks lips]
Yep, got it all. [hissing]
330
00:18:51,234 --> 00:18:55,991
It's just such a reflection
of how above the law
this man thinks he is,
331
00:18:55,991 --> 00:18:59,012
that he is not only
in a car taking drugs
332
00:18:59,012 --> 00:19:00,262
and drinking while driving,
333
00:19:00,921 --> 00:19:02,345
but videotaping it...
334
00:19:02,345 --> 00:19:03,838
[can pops open]
335
00:19:03,907 --> 00:19:05,782
...and posting it,
336
00:19:05,782 --> 00:19:09,115
because he thinks it's cool
to show his friends.
337
00:19:10,575 --> 00:19:11,721
[sighs] Ah.
338
00:19:13,526 --> 00:19:15,471
[Cronkhite] It seems
like each generation
339
00:19:15,471 --> 00:19:19,151
was impacted
with a number of women
340
00:19:19,221 --> 00:19:21,860
who had been wronged
by the Hammer family.
341
00:19:21,929 --> 00:19:25,159
[photographer shouts]
Armie, looking up here.
Right here, over here for me.
342
00:19:25,159 --> 00:19:27,866
[Skae] It's hard
to imagine one person
behaving that badly.
343
00:19:31,617 --> 00:19:33,839
To hear that
it's been going on
for so many generations
344
00:19:33,908 --> 00:19:35,297
is kind of unimaginable.
345
00:19:44,847 --> 00:19:46,512
[producer] There we go.
346
00:19:46,512 --> 00:19:48,596
[Edward Epstein] My name
is Edward Jay Epstein.
347
00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:50,402
Everything okay?
348
00:19:51,930 --> 00:19:56,652
In 1980,
The New York Times came to me
349
00:19:56,722 --> 00:19:59,882
and asked if I wanted to write
a profile on Armand Hammer,
350
00:19:59,882 --> 00:20:00,923
so I did.
351
00:20:02,277 --> 00:20:05,715
I began traveling
with Armand Hammer.
352
00:20:05,785 --> 00:20:08,215
I went all over the world
with him,
353
00:20:08,215 --> 00:20:09,847
got to know him pretty well.
354
00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:15,264
One of the things
that intrigued me about Hammer
355
00:20:15,264 --> 00:20:17,139
was that his public persona
356
00:20:17,139 --> 00:20:21,306
was purposely divorced
from his private activities.
357
00:20:24,327 --> 00:20:28,806
Armand controlled everyone,
including women,
358
00:20:28,806 --> 00:20:32,174
and Hammer in his life
had three marriages.
359
00:20:32,174 --> 00:20:34,987
Well, you haven't been
unlucky in love then?
360
00:20:35,056 --> 00:20:38,701
[Epstein] The first was
in Russia with Olga.
361
00:20:38,701 --> 00:20:40,473
[Armand] She wanted
a career in Hollywood
362
00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:42,140
and I was here in New York.
363
00:20:42,140 --> 00:20:43,390
It didn't last.
364
00:20:44,015 --> 00:20:45,057
We were divorced.
365
00:20:46,341 --> 00:20:49,118
[Epstein] The second
was with Angela...
366
00:20:49,118 --> 00:20:51,724
[Armand] Unfortunately,
she was an alcoholic,
367
00:20:51,724 --> 00:20:54,327
and after ten years
of putting up with her,
368
00:20:54,327 --> 00:20:55,264
I divorced her.
369
00:20:56,620 --> 00:20:58,842
[Lyndon]
Armand's wife, Angela...
370
00:21:00,577 --> 00:21:05,092
...in her divorce testimony,
she said that he,
371
00:21:05,162 --> 00:21:09,363
"willfully, maliciously,
and deliberately pursued
a course of conduct,
372
00:21:09,432 --> 00:21:13,425
employed techniques,
tactics and practices
373
00:21:13,495 --> 00:21:18,113
calculated and designed
to destroy her will.
374
00:21:18,113 --> 00:21:21,411
He threatened her with serious
bodily violence and injury,
375
00:21:21,411 --> 00:21:25,578
and to beat her brains out
by brandishing a metal pipe.
376
00:21:28,808 --> 00:21:30,786
'I feared my husband.
377
00:21:30,786 --> 00:21:34,537
He is a master
of psychological warfare.'"
378
00:21:38,287 --> 00:21:39,953
[Armand]
My present wife, Frances,
379
00:21:39,953 --> 00:21:42,871
we've been married 31 years
and this is the happiest...
380
00:21:42,871 --> 00:21:44,642
31 years of my life.
381
00:21:44,642 --> 00:21:46,135
Well, what's the moral
of this story?
382
00:21:47,176 --> 00:21:49,156
Well, we must never give up.
383
00:21:49,989 --> 00:21:51,551
[audience laughing]
384
00:21:53,426 --> 00:21:57,281
[Epstein] Armand Hammer
considered his relations
with women
385
00:21:57,351 --> 00:22:00,163
as a means
of getting something.
386
00:22:00,163 --> 00:22:02,351
They served a purpose to him.
387
00:22:03,114 --> 00:22:05,580
He married Frances
for her money.
388
00:22:07,141 --> 00:22:09,434
She gave him the money
that allowed him
389
00:22:09,434 --> 00:22:12,663
to go into the oil
business in a big way.
390
00:22:12,663 --> 00:22:15,615
[reporter] Dr. Armand Hammer
and his third wife, Frances,
391
00:22:15,684 --> 00:22:17,558
took a $100,000 gamble
392
00:22:17,558 --> 00:22:20,198
when they invested
in Occidental Petroleum,
393
00:22:20,268 --> 00:22:22,247
a small and struggling
oil company.
394
00:22:24,226 --> 00:22:26,761
[Epstein] As far as
the public was concerned,
395
00:22:26,830 --> 00:22:30,581
Armand did not have
extra-marital relationships.
396
00:22:30,581 --> 00:22:32,872
But in truth, he always
had mistresses,
397
00:22:32,872 --> 00:22:34,956
and he always womanized.
398
00:22:37,246 --> 00:22:41,206
He looked for young
women who he could
control completely.
399
00:22:43,081 --> 00:22:45,373
You have this page,
400
00:22:45,373 --> 00:22:47,699
you got a lot of pictures
of the different women
in his life,
401
00:22:47,768 --> 00:22:50,269
but this page, I wanna
show the picture up here.
402
00:22:50,269 --> 00:22:52,456
That's a woman
named Martha Kauffman...
403
00:22:52,456 --> 00:22:54,018
[Epstein] It was
Martha Kauffman, yes.
404
00:22:54,018 --> 00:22:57,561
-...but down here, the same
woman is Hilary Gibson...
-[Epstein] Right.
405
00:22:57,561 --> 00:23:00,164
...who are these two people?
Are they the same person?
406
00:23:00,998 --> 00:23:03,741
I interviewed Martha Kauffman
407
00:23:03,811 --> 00:23:05,686
also known as Hilary Gibson,
408
00:23:05,686 --> 00:23:08,012
one of Hammer's mistresses.
409
00:23:08,082 --> 00:23:11,936
She told me that his wife,
Frances, found out
410
00:23:11,936 --> 00:23:15,304
she was having a liaison
with her husband.
411
00:23:15,374 --> 00:23:19,019
Frances laid
down the law and said,
412
00:23:19,019 --> 00:23:20,616
"you have to get
rid of this woman."
413
00:23:20,686 --> 00:23:23,395
So, rather than
give up his mistress,
414
00:23:23,395 --> 00:23:27,978
he found a solution that
was typical to the kinds
of solutions he found.
415
00:23:27,978 --> 00:23:31,623
He had Martha Kauffman
change her name.
416
00:23:32,388 --> 00:23:33,498
Hilary Gibson.
417
00:23:34,888 --> 00:23:37,458
Wear a white wig...
418
00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:41,138
...and pretended
to his wife that she
was a different woman.
419
00:23:41,208 --> 00:23:43,534
[interviewer]
And Frances, his wife
never figured it out?
420
00:23:43,604 --> 00:23:44,922
No.
421
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,269
What he demanded was control
of every part of her life
422
00:23:50,269 --> 00:23:51,520
including her identity.
423
00:23:52,701 --> 00:23:55,687
It was all in his nature
424
00:23:55,687 --> 00:23:59,472
of a man who totally
wanted to control
425
00:23:59,472 --> 00:24:03,118
a woman that he
viewed as a object
426
00:24:03,187 --> 00:24:05,722
not as a human being.
427
00:24:09,368 --> 00:24:12,076
"Martha Kauffman,
Armand's mistress,
428
00:24:12,145 --> 00:24:15,618
had to be available to meet
his schedule at short notice.
429
00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:19,541
He gave her two beepers
to alert her to his calls.
430
00:24:19,541 --> 00:24:22,493
He prohibited her
from seeing other men,
431
00:24:22,562 --> 00:24:26,313
and to make sure of her
whereabouts in Los Angeles,
432
00:24:26,313 --> 00:24:29,958
he had a homing device
installed in her car
433
00:24:29,958 --> 00:24:31,869
and a tap placed
on her phone."
434
00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:34,021
...He had my location
on his phone...
435
00:24:34,021 --> 00:24:36,418
"He also controlled
her vacation schedule.
436
00:24:37,668 --> 00:24:41,522
She had to submit
to his sexual demands
437
00:24:41,522 --> 00:24:45,793
even when she considered
them extremely humiliating."
438
00:24:45,793 --> 00:24:48,848
...something is very
degrading, very belittling...
439
00:24:48,918 --> 00:24:50,827
Unfortunately, not shocked.
440
00:24:50,897 --> 00:24:53,640
This is exactly
the kind of things...
441
00:24:54,682 --> 00:24:56,314
...I experienced. This is...
442
00:24:59,231 --> 00:25:00,411
...extremely humiliating.
443
00:25:02,182 --> 00:25:03,292
I resonate with that.
444
00:25:05,724 --> 00:25:08,953
Armie is so consuming.
445
00:25:10,411 --> 00:25:11,731
He does whatever
he wants, but...
446
00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:15,307
...you're his.
447
00:25:15,377 --> 00:25:17,148
Completely.
448
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,808
[Cronkhite] I kept looking
more into the archives
of newspaper articles
449
00:25:32,878 --> 00:25:37,391
trying to find more content
relating to the overlaps
450
00:25:37,391 --> 00:25:39,475
and parallels between
each generation.
451
00:25:41,662 --> 00:25:43,607
"Son of Armand Hammer Seized.
452
00:25:43,607 --> 00:25:47,981
Julian Hammer, 47-year-old son
of industrialist Armand Hammer
453
00:25:47,981 --> 00:25:51,246
was arrested at his Pacific
Palisades home Thursday night
454
00:25:51,316 --> 00:25:55,204
for allegedly
threatening a man in his
home with a shotgun.
455
00:25:55,204 --> 00:25:58,329
Hammer brandished the weapon
after returning home
456
00:25:58,329 --> 00:26:02,288
and finding 19-year-old
Gary Bowers there
with Cathe Boal, 28.
457
00:26:02,358 --> 00:26:04,892
Hammer reportedly
said to Bowers,
458
00:26:04,962 --> 00:26:08,121
'hold it, take another step
and I'll blow you apart.'"
459
00:26:11,316 --> 00:26:13,400
[interviewer]
460
00:26:16,316 --> 00:26:17,462
Stop!
461
00:26:17,462 --> 00:26:18,400
[clapper]
462
00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:24,545
[interviewer 2]
463
00:26:24,545 --> 00:26:26,768
You're welcome
and Casey's welcome.
464
00:26:26,837 --> 00:26:29,129
I'm doing this for Casey.
[chuckling]
465
00:26:31,837 --> 00:26:35,275
I met Julian Hammer
in the mid-70s.
466
00:26:35,275 --> 00:26:38,504
He needed someone
to come and clean the house
467
00:26:38,504 --> 00:26:40,484
and he offered me the job.
468
00:26:41,630 --> 00:26:43,609
I had just had a child,
469
00:26:43,609 --> 00:26:45,484
so I was able to bring
my son up there
470
00:26:45,484 --> 00:26:47,706
while I was
cleaning the house.
471
00:26:52,498 --> 00:26:56,213
The first day I came
to work, there was
a big party going on.
472
00:26:56,213 --> 00:26:57,671
It was a gambling party,
473
00:26:57,671 --> 00:26:58,852
it had been going
on for a couple days,
apparently.
474
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:04,477
Everybody in Pacific
Palisades that lived there
475
00:27:04,547 --> 00:27:05,797
knew about Julian.
476
00:27:09,686 --> 00:27:13,400
He was always in really nice
pajamas and a beautiful robe
477
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,998
and slippers and stuff.
478
00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:16,525
That's how he entertained.
479
00:27:18,089 --> 00:27:22,464
Because he was the Hugh
Hefner of Pacific Palisades.
480
00:27:24,652 --> 00:27:28,506
As days went on, he started
kinda opening up to me
481
00:27:28,506 --> 00:27:33,228
about the real him instead
of being the phony
482
00:27:33,297 --> 00:27:36,666
with all of the people coming
up and partying and stuff.
483
00:27:38,645 --> 00:27:42,499
He was a real charmer,
he knew how to get his way,
484
00:27:42,499 --> 00:27:46,145
and he was just suave,
you know, when he
wanted to be.
485
00:27:48,124 --> 00:27:50,833
As time went on we
just got real close.
486
00:27:53,402 --> 00:27:55,104
When my son was
nine months old,
487
00:27:55,172 --> 00:27:59,062
Julian convinced me that
I should leave my husband.
488
00:27:59,131 --> 00:28:03,090
We had probably
been seeing each other
around six months or so
489
00:28:03,090 --> 00:28:05,903
and we, um, got engaged.
490
00:28:07,396 --> 00:28:11,250
He seemed to be more
possessive as time went on.
491
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,986
He didn't want me
to have any friends.
492
00:28:13,646 --> 00:28:15,382
Just him.
493
00:28:15,382 --> 00:28:19,167
I was naive, really,
I guess you might say,
494
00:28:19,237 --> 00:28:22,083
but I thought if I could
give him enough love
495
00:28:22,152 --> 00:28:24,236
that maybe I could change him.
496
00:28:24,236 --> 00:28:26,319
Which, of course,
you don't change anybody,
497
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:27,848
but I didn't know that then.
498
00:28:39,688 --> 00:28:44,028
One night, I convinced
him that it was time for him
to take me out.
499
00:28:44,028 --> 00:28:47,918
And after we had dinner,
he wanted to stop at a bar.
500
00:28:47,987 --> 00:28:52,189
-[disco music playing]
-♪ I will go away ♪
501
00:28:52,257 --> 00:28:55,591
Julian started hanging
around with the guys in there
502
00:28:55,591 --> 00:28:58,507
and kind of flirting
around with the guys.
503
00:28:59,967 --> 00:29:01,980
I got jealous,
I didn't like the idea
504
00:29:02,050 --> 00:29:03,613
that he's flirting
with these guys.
505
00:29:03,613 --> 00:29:06,530
"Why aren't you flirting
with me? Why are you
flirting with these guys?"
506
00:29:06,530 --> 00:29:09,897
Then I started realizing
it was a gay bar.
507
00:29:09,966 --> 00:29:13,821
♪ Phunkee man, phunkee man ♪
508
00:29:13,821 --> 00:29:15,523
He did not want to leave.
509
00:29:17,051 --> 00:29:20,591
I just got so upset,
I just walked out of the bar,
510
00:29:20,591 --> 00:29:22,884
walked across the street,
put my thumb out.
511
00:29:26,669 --> 00:29:28,197
Within, like, five minutes,
512
00:29:28,197 --> 00:29:30,419
this really nice
guy pulled over
513
00:29:30,489 --> 00:29:32,883
and he took me
to Julian's house.
514
00:29:34,447 --> 00:29:37,711
And as he started to leave,
Julian pulled up.
515
00:29:38,926 --> 00:29:41,114
And that's
when everything escalated
516
00:29:41,114 --> 00:29:43,509
'cause Julian saw
him at the door...
517
00:29:45,072 --> 00:29:49,031
...and got upset that
a man had brought me home.
518
00:29:51,461 --> 00:29:53,926
The go-to was always a gun.
519
00:29:53,926 --> 00:29:56,253
That was his thing when he
got mad like a little baby.
520
00:29:56,323 --> 00:29:58,961
"I'm gonna go get my gun
and I'm gonna shoot you."
521
00:29:59,864 --> 00:30:01,739
That was his
way to get control.
522
00:30:02,677 --> 00:30:04,343
[faint arguing]
523
00:30:06,878 --> 00:30:08,405
Oh, boy.
524
00:30:09,587 --> 00:30:13,614
"Julian Hammer, 47,
son of industrialist
Armand Hammer,
525
00:30:13,614 --> 00:30:17,365
was arrested
on suspicion of assault
with a deadly weapon
526
00:30:17,365 --> 00:30:20,212
and released
on a $1,000 bail."
527
00:30:21,462 --> 00:30:24,240
Somehow or another
I always would give into him
528
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,983
thinking, "all right,
this time it'll be better,
this time it'll be better."
529
00:30:28,233 --> 00:30:29,449
Unfortunately, it never was.
530
00:30:32,053 --> 00:30:34,761
Few days later,
we got in an argument,
531
00:30:34,761 --> 00:30:36,635
and I saw the gun in his
hand and I just said,
532
00:30:36,635 --> 00:30:39,345
"you are not gonna pull
that gun out on me,
533
00:30:39,345 --> 00:30:40,802
you're not gonna
point it at me,"
534
00:30:40,802 --> 00:30:42,470
and that's
when I went for the gun.
535
00:30:43,650 --> 00:30:44,865
[gunshot]
536
00:30:44,865 --> 00:30:46,011
The gun went off.
537
00:30:47,088 --> 00:30:49,762
My nine-month-old
son was in the same room.
538
00:30:49,762 --> 00:30:51,984
He was only a few feet away,
539
00:30:52,052 --> 00:30:54,658
and so it could have
ricocheted and hit him
and killed him.
540
00:30:56,845 --> 00:30:59,658
So, that was it, I left,
that was it, it was over.
541
00:31:01,116 --> 00:31:02,887
[Vitamanti]
There's no consequence.
542
00:31:04,067 --> 00:31:06,047
Well, what message
are you sending?
543
00:31:07,886 --> 00:31:11,776
"So what? What's gonna
happen to me? I'm a Hammer."
544
00:31:13,304 --> 00:31:15,596
Nothing ever
happened to Julian
545
00:31:15,596 --> 00:31:19,554
because Armand Hammer had
the money to make it go away.
546
00:31:21,742 --> 00:31:23,512
[Cathe Boal]
Bottom line, he could
do whatever he wanted.
547
00:31:24,276 --> 00:31:25,839
He could get away with murder.
548
00:31:27,089 --> 00:31:28,547
And he did.
549
00:31:37,922 --> 00:31:39,867
[Cronkhite] Armie Hammer's
great grandfather, Julian,
550
00:31:39,867 --> 00:31:42,784
was arrested
for manslaughter in 1955.
551
00:31:42,784 --> 00:31:45,909
His old friend, Bruce,
came to LA to celebrate
his birthday,
552
00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:48,860
and reminded him
that Julian owed him $400,
553
00:31:48,930 --> 00:31:51,118
and then Julian
shot him two times.
554
00:31:51,118 --> 00:31:54,034
This all happened when Sue
was pregnant with Armie's
father, Michael.
555
00:31:56,152 --> 00:31:59,035
[Casey] The story that
he told us was self-defense,
556
00:31:59,902 --> 00:32:03,305
but my mom was
very quick to tell me,
557
00:32:03,305 --> 00:32:05,944
"no, your father just
murdered someone
in cold blood."
558
00:32:07,785 --> 00:32:09,764
[Epstein] Armand Hammer
got a phone call
559
00:32:09,764 --> 00:32:11,882
saying that his son
had just shot someone.
560
00:32:12,577 --> 00:32:14,660
And so, to save not his son,
561
00:32:15,528 --> 00:32:17,680
but to save his
own reputation...
562
00:32:19,139 --> 00:32:24,244
...he actually delivered
$50,000 in cash to his lawyer,
563
00:32:24,244 --> 00:32:28,132
basically quashing
the charges against his son,
564
00:32:28,202 --> 00:32:30,910
stopping his son from going
to prison for murder.
565
00:32:33,132 --> 00:32:35,494
[Boal] And he didn't
even seem like he was
really bothered
566
00:32:35,494 --> 00:32:39,174
in that he shot his friend
over the gambling debt.
567
00:32:39,244 --> 00:32:42,091
He talked to me just
nonchalant about it.
568
00:32:42,161 --> 00:32:44,556
[Casey] You could get
away with murder,
you could do anything.
569
00:32:44,556 --> 00:32:47,161
There was no accountability.
570
00:32:50,112 --> 00:32:52,195
[Cronkhite] Each generation,
571
00:32:52,265 --> 00:32:55,633
the men learned very early
that money makes things
go away.
572
00:32:56,675 --> 00:32:58,098
It keeps people quiet.
573
00:32:59,765 --> 00:33:01,536
[Epstein] After the murder,
574
00:33:01,536 --> 00:33:04,974
Julian was given
a position by Armand Hammer
575
00:33:04,974 --> 00:33:09,071
at Occidental Petroleum
out of the public eye.
576
00:33:10,425 --> 00:33:15,078
Julian eventually began
doing things for his father,
577
00:33:15,078 --> 00:33:18,828
illegal things like
helping his father
578
00:33:18,828 --> 00:33:23,203
surreptitiously record
conversations.
579
00:33:26,432 --> 00:33:29,905
Julian set him
up with a hidden microphone
580
00:33:29,975 --> 00:33:32,891
and wired 'em up as
we've seen in police movies.
581
00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:37,786
So, he became part
of the secretive world.
582
00:33:37,786 --> 00:33:39,662
A spy world, if you want.
583
00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:47,093
Armand Hammer understood
the criminal mind.
584
00:33:47,093 --> 00:33:49,697
That if you're wired
and have someone on tape,
585
00:33:50,530 --> 00:33:52,197
you have control over them.
586
00:34:07,267 --> 00:34:11,225
[Joseph Finder] The perception
of Hammer in the early 1980s
587
00:34:11,225 --> 00:34:14,073
was that he was
a humanitarian,
588
00:34:14,142 --> 00:34:16,329
a philanthropist,
589
00:34:16,329 --> 00:34:18,031
he was a billionaire,
590
00:34:18,101 --> 00:34:20,809
basically,
whose mission in life
591
00:34:20,809 --> 00:34:23,136
was to bring
about world peace.
592
00:34:24,872 --> 00:34:27,719
A few of us who were
writing about Hammer
593
00:34:27,788 --> 00:34:33,136
were finding out there
was this story there
594
00:34:33,206 --> 00:34:36,365
that the press had
not gotten a hold of.
595
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,386
How do you do,
ladies and gentlemen.
596
00:34:41,157 --> 00:34:45,324
[Finder] Hammer had
successfully buried
the story of his past.
597
00:34:46,574 --> 00:34:48,102
[Cronkhite]
In the Hammer family tree,
598
00:34:48,102 --> 00:34:50,705
you have Armie Hammer
and his father, Michael,
599
00:34:50,705 --> 00:34:53,519
his father, Julian,
his father, Armand,
600
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:55,394
and his father, Julius.
601
00:34:55,394 --> 00:34:57,165
I'm here to talk about Julius.
602
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:01,226
[Epstein] Julius Hammer
had come to America
603
00:35:01,226 --> 00:35:04,769
like many
of the Jews of Russia.
604
00:35:05,845 --> 00:35:09,144
He was also a doctor,
but more than that,
605
00:35:09,144 --> 00:35:12,998
he became
an active politician.
606
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,436
[Finder]
Julius Hammer was a founder
607
00:35:16,436 --> 00:35:18,207
of the American
Communist Party.
608
00:35:22,582 --> 00:35:26,853
[Epstein] When his
son in 1898 was born,
609
00:35:26,853 --> 00:35:31,263
he named him Armand
Hammer after the symbol...
610
00:35:32,477 --> 00:35:35,082
...of the Communist
Party in Russia.
611
00:35:35,082 --> 00:35:36,644
The arm and the hammer.
612
00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:44,562
[Finder] The Russians
used the Hammer family
613
00:35:44,562 --> 00:35:49,144
through Julius Hammer
to channel money
into New York,
614
00:35:49,144 --> 00:35:53,833
fund the Communist Party
and then steal technology,
615
00:35:53,833 --> 00:35:58,000
and trade secrets
from the United States.
616
00:36:00,916 --> 00:36:03,937
After years of research,
617
00:36:03,937 --> 00:36:07,167
the CIA concluded
that Armand Hammer
618
00:36:07,167 --> 00:36:11,542
was used to collect
information for the KGB.
619
00:36:12,584 --> 00:36:15,500
He was an agent
of the Soviet Union.
620
00:36:17,375 --> 00:36:20,222
[Epstein] Armie's great
grandfather, Armand Hammer,
621
00:36:20,222 --> 00:36:25,188
goes to Moscow
to take over what his
father had built there.
622
00:36:27,271 --> 00:36:32,896
[Finder] Armand Hammer
became an agent of his
father's company.
623
00:36:32,896 --> 00:36:36,438
He was a money launderer,
he was a courier
624
00:36:36,438 --> 00:36:40,187
for funds that were channeled
625
00:36:40,187 --> 00:36:44,390
to Soviet espionage
in the United States.
626
00:36:44,459 --> 00:36:48,244
It was secret, it was illegal,
it was dangerous.
627
00:36:48,244 --> 00:36:52,168
[Epstein] Behind every great
fortune is a great crime.
628
00:36:52,168 --> 00:36:54,807
Certainly behind
the Hammer fortune...
629
00:36:56,022 --> 00:37:00,744
...there were a great
number of great crimes.
630
00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:11,474
[reporter] The time
for successful capitalists
631
00:37:11,544 --> 00:37:14,563
earning profits in the height
of communism was over,
632
00:37:14,563 --> 00:37:16,856
and Dr. Armand Hammer
decided to leave
633
00:37:16,856 --> 00:37:19,703
because he realized his
businesses would never triumph
634
00:37:19,772 --> 00:37:22,065
under Stalin's crushing rule.
635
00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:28,766
[Finder] When Hammer
arrived in the U.S.
in the early 1930s...
636
00:37:28,836 --> 00:37:32,690
...there was still this fear
of Russia and communism,
637
00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:36,579
so, one of his most
important missions
638
00:37:36,648 --> 00:37:38,628
was to bury his past.
639
00:37:38,628 --> 00:37:41,370
Dr. Hammer, I must show this
audience a picture of Olga.
640
00:37:43,836 --> 00:37:45,295
This is your first wife here.
641
00:37:45,295 --> 00:37:46,336
There she is.
642
00:37:47,170 --> 00:37:49,808
What didn't fit
in with his legend
643
00:37:49,808 --> 00:37:52,898
of being an American who
just happened to be in Russia
644
00:37:52,898 --> 00:37:56,753
was that he had a Russian
wife and a Russian child
645
00:37:56,753 --> 00:37:59,288
born in Moscow, Julian.
646
00:37:59,356 --> 00:38:01,962
So, he tried to create
as much distance as he could.
647
00:38:03,142 --> 00:38:05,607
He even had
a paternity test taken
648
00:38:05,607 --> 00:38:10,087
in the hopes that it would
show that his son, Julian...
649
00:38:11,337 --> 00:38:12,898
...was not really his son.
650
00:38:14,288 --> 00:38:16,650
It was very sad when I
heard the whole story
651
00:38:16,650 --> 00:38:19,358
from Julian's point of view.
652
00:38:19,358 --> 00:38:23,004
He knew he was
always thought of as
an embarrassment.
653
00:38:24,462 --> 00:38:25,712
An albatross.
654
00:38:27,413 --> 00:38:31,129
So, the relationship between
Armand and Julian
655
00:38:31,129 --> 00:38:34,463
was a relationship
of a father trying to hide...
656
00:38:35,747 --> 00:38:36,753
...his son.
657
00:38:36,753 --> 00:38:39,567
And his only son
from the world.
658
00:38:48,525 --> 00:38:51,337
[Casey] My father and brother
hated each other.
659
00:38:51,337 --> 00:38:55,227
They constantly were arguing
and bickering and fighting.
660
00:38:55,297 --> 00:38:57,172
But on the outside
in front of Grandpa,
661
00:38:57,172 --> 00:38:59,498
they were patting
each other on the back
662
00:38:59,498 --> 00:39:01,234
and being so phony
and superficial.
663
00:39:02,831 --> 00:39:05,401
My brother wanted
to surpass my father,
664
00:39:05,401 --> 00:39:07,484
but my father wasn't
gonna let that happen.
665
00:39:08,839 --> 00:39:11,998
[Boal] Julian was very jealous
of Michael. That I saw.
666
00:39:11,998 --> 00:39:15,019
He was very jealous,
he was very rough on Michael.
667
00:39:15,089 --> 00:39:16,338
Very mean to Michael.
668
00:39:17,379 --> 00:39:19,567
I did see a pattern there.
669
00:39:19,567 --> 00:39:22,588
That Julian, I think,
was hard on his children
670
00:39:22,588 --> 00:39:25,506
because Armand
was hard on Julian.
671
00:39:36,339 --> 00:39:38,249
The second trip I took
from Washington
672
00:39:38,318 --> 00:39:40,645
down to visit my father...
673
00:39:42,311 --> 00:39:44,395
...everyone was drinking
way too much...
674
00:39:45,228 --> 00:39:47,589
[music playing in background]
675
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:49,499
[Casey] ...and my father
offered my brother
676
00:39:49,499 --> 00:39:51,478
$1 million for his girlfriend.
677
00:39:51,548 --> 00:39:53,666
[faint arguing]
678
00:39:54,776 --> 00:39:58,319
My brother, it was like
a monster unleashed.
679
00:40:01,548 --> 00:40:05,819
They both said,
"I'm gonna kill you,"
and they ran outside,
680
00:40:05,819 --> 00:40:09,291
and when I finally
circled the building,
681
00:40:09,291 --> 00:40:12,278
I saw police had
separated them.
682
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,341
The cops didn't arrest
either one of 'em,
683
00:40:16,341 --> 00:40:20,646
and let them both drive away
intoxicated as they were,
684
00:40:20,716 --> 00:40:24,188
and Michael's girlfriend
ended up going with my father
685
00:40:24,257 --> 00:40:28,008
quote unquote
to tame the situation.
686
00:40:29,674 --> 00:40:31,792
She was older than
most of the girls.
687
00:40:31,862 --> 00:40:34,709
Probably 19.
688
00:40:34,779 --> 00:40:38,251
She ended up living
with my father for, like,
another eight months.
689
00:40:43,563 --> 00:40:47,279
When I graduated from high
school, my grandfather said,
690
00:40:47,279 --> 00:40:50,959
"you're now going
to the University of San Diego
because your brother's there."
691
00:40:52,938 --> 00:40:56,341
USD was a Catholic
private school,
692
00:40:56,341 --> 00:40:58,424
2000 students,
so, it was very small.
693
00:41:01,238 --> 00:41:03,668
Michael was larger
than life on the campus,
694
00:41:03,737 --> 00:41:05,647
meaning he had a reputation.
695
00:41:05,716 --> 00:41:09,675
Him and his friends
are partying and just, um,
all kinds of things.
696
00:41:11,446 --> 00:41:14,987
Michael was
the life-of-the-party guy.
697
00:41:14,987 --> 00:41:17,175
He was the leader of the guys.
698
00:41:17,175 --> 00:41:19,467
When their group
would come in,
699
00:41:19,467 --> 00:41:21,863
Michael would always
be front and center.
700
00:41:22,731 --> 00:41:25,718
He was almost
the stereotypical
701
00:41:25,718 --> 00:41:29,189
wealthy kid that you see
in teen movies.
702
00:41:29,259 --> 00:41:31,481
What was his, uh, slogan?
703
00:41:31,551 --> 00:41:35,231
I think he even wanted
T-shirts made that said,
"Decadence, a way of life."
704
00:41:37,071 --> 00:41:39,468
[family friend]
He kind of always had
a different girl.
705
00:41:39,468 --> 00:41:43,252
It would be one
of those things where,
you know,
706
00:41:43,321 --> 00:41:45,300
"Do we really have
to get to know her?
707
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,315
There will just
be a new one next week."
708
00:41:48,253 --> 00:41:51,239
It didn't matter what room
he was in,
709
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,717
he commanded your attention,
he wanted your attention.
710
00:41:55,717 --> 00:41:58,461
Almost every single one
711
00:41:58,531 --> 00:42:01,239
of Casey's closest friends
712
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,573
ended up sleeping with Michael
at some point or another.
713
00:42:06,865 --> 00:42:10,719
[Casey] One night, I had found
a photo album in his closet.
714
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,045
And it was a lot
of naked people
715
00:42:13,115 --> 00:42:14,677
in the pictures, like an orgy,
716
00:42:14,677 --> 00:42:17,733
and there was cash,
and there were drugs,
717
00:42:17,802 --> 00:42:20,024
and there was a gun
in the closet as well.
718
00:42:22,212 --> 00:42:24,399
Michael was mirroring
my father
719
00:42:24,469 --> 00:42:28,114
and showing early signs
of what my father was like.
720
00:42:28,114 --> 00:42:30,441
It was scary.
721
00:42:33,045 --> 00:42:34,921
[Wendy Williams]
My name is Wendy Williams.
722
00:42:34,990 --> 00:42:38,462
Casey Hammer
and Michael Hammer
723
00:42:38,531 --> 00:42:39,990
are my cousins.
724
00:42:41,552 --> 00:42:44,366
I thought that they were
just wealthy,
725
00:42:44,366 --> 00:42:47,178
they had this wonderful life,
726
00:42:47,178 --> 00:42:49,921
when it was not
like that at all.
727
00:42:52,491 --> 00:42:56,380
Michael was pretty reckless
when he was younger.
728
00:42:58,219 --> 00:42:59,470
I remember Armand Hammer
729
00:42:59,470 --> 00:43:02,908
coming in to intervene
with Michael.
730
00:43:04,088 --> 00:43:07,526
He was making very
specific demands
731
00:43:07,594 --> 00:43:10,304
of how Michael's life
was going to be.
732
00:43:11,241 --> 00:43:12,942
Basically, there would
be no money
733
00:43:13,012 --> 00:43:16,588
unless he cleaned up his life
734
00:43:16,658 --> 00:43:18,984
and did what Armand...
735
00:43:20,234 --> 00:43:21,276
...wanted.
736
00:43:22,388 --> 00:43:25,513
Which was, come work
for the company.
737
00:43:28,776 --> 00:43:31,763
[family friend] It always
appeared that Michael
738
00:43:31,763 --> 00:43:33,672
was the Hammer heir.
739
00:43:34,471 --> 00:43:37,214
And Casey was,
740
00:43:37,284 --> 00:43:39,089
for a lack of a better way
to say it,
741
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:44,818
"Just be nice and be pretty
and we'll take care of you."
742
00:43:44,888 --> 00:43:48,325
[Casey] Michael had
gotten back into graces
with my grandfather
743
00:43:48,325 --> 00:43:50,826
and then was hired at Oxy.
744
00:43:51,972 --> 00:43:54,055
And so, Michael saw
745
00:43:54,055 --> 00:43:56,902
he could try and manipulate
my grandfather,
746
00:43:56,972 --> 00:44:00,652
or get, you know,
above my father's hierarchy.
747
00:44:03,777 --> 00:44:06,555
[orchestra playing]
748
00:44:06,555 --> 00:44:10,027
[woman singing]
♪ Happy birthday ♪
749
00:44:10,096 --> 00:44:11,590
♪ To you ♪
750
00:44:11,660 --> 00:44:16,242
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
751
00:44:16,242 --> 00:44:18,326
[Casey] Grandpa would
throw parties all the time.
752
00:44:19,611 --> 00:44:21,382
We would get invited,
753
00:44:21,451 --> 00:44:24,994
and it was a select few 2,000
of his closest friends.
754
00:44:26,903 --> 00:44:29,716
And it was who's who
in Hollywood
if you got invited.
755
00:44:29,784 --> 00:44:34,055
It's now my great privilege
to introduce Mr. Gregory Peck.
756
00:44:34,055 --> 00:44:36,348
[jazz music playing]
757
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,036
[Casey] It was a huge deal
when they were like,
758
00:44:46,036 --> 00:44:49,473
"Armand Hammer
is hosting Prince Charles
and Lady Diana."
759
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:57,112
So, yeah, it was pretty cool
when you got to tell people
that you were there.
760
00:44:59,508 --> 00:45:01,870
My father was forced
to show up
761
00:45:01,870 --> 00:45:03,953
at a function or a party,
762
00:45:03,953 --> 00:45:06,487
and just didn't wanna
have anything to do with it.
763
00:45:07,911 --> 00:45:10,724
Whereas my brother
wanted it so deeply...
764
00:45:11,974 --> 00:45:15,723
...to take his place
as heir apparent
to the throne.
765
00:45:18,988 --> 00:45:22,704
I tried watching
the HBO show Succession.
766
00:45:23,884 --> 00:45:25,724
I got through
three episodes...
767
00:45:26,662 --> 00:45:28,051
...and I had to turn it off.
768
00:45:31,176 --> 00:45:33,259
Everyone's brown-nosing
each other
769
00:45:33,328 --> 00:45:37,842
and saying fake stuff,
and everyone hates each other
on the inside,
770
00:45:37,912 --> 00:45:40,933
but on the outside
they're all pretending
to get along.
771
00:45:40,933 --> 00:45:44,371
Magnify Succession
a million times,
772
00:45:44,371 --> 00:45:47,600
and it was literally
my family.
773
00:45:56,767 --> 00:45:59,301
Michael was 27, 28,
when he first met
774
00:45:59,370 --> 00:46:01,871
Armie's mother, Dru.
775
00:46:04,683 --> 00:46:07,948
He was flying first class
and he was really drunk,
776
00:46:08,017 --> 00:46:10,760
and I guess Dru
was sitting next to him.
777
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,121
And she said before she
got off the airplane,
778
00:46:13,121 --> 00:46:14,476
she was planning to marry him.
779
00:46:16,594 --> 00:46:19,302
She was very religious
780
00:46:19,371 --> 00:46:23,018
and very not like
what Michael goes out with.
781
00:46:23,018 --> 00:46:24,789
So when he got off
the airplane
782
00:46:24,789 --> 00:46:26,802
and he was saying,
"I met someone,"
783
00:46:26,872 --> 00:46:28,330
we were all like,
"Sure, okay."
784
00:46:28,330 --> 00:46:30,552
And then when we met Dru,
785
00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:33,955
we just thought,
"Oh, that's never gonna last."
786
00:46:33,955 --> 00:46:38,121
But my grandfather rolled out
the red carpet for her
and her parents.
787
00:46:39,163 --> 00:46:41,698
He wanted Michael and Dru
to get married,
788
00:46:41,768 --> 00:46:46,143
because this was a wholesome,
Tulsa, wealthy family
789
00:46:46,143 --> 00:46:48,365
that was very religious,
790
00:46:48,365 --> 00:46:53,227
and my grandfather believed
that Dru could change Michael.
791
00:46:53,227 --> 00:46:57,220
After we got out of college,
Michael came over one night
to Casey's house
792
00:46:57,290 --> 00:47:01,039
and introduced this woman
as his fiance,
and we got to know her.
793
00:47:02,637 --> 00:47:05,311
But then he was
with other girls
794
00:47:05,311 --> 00:47:07,602
who went out with us,
795
00:47:07,602 --> 00:47:09,720
and, you know, we would
ask questions like,
796
00:47:09,790 --> 00:47:13,019
"Oh, did you break up
with your fiance?"
797
00:47:13,019 --> 00:47:16,491
"No, no, she's fine.
She just couldn't
come out tonight."
798
00:47:20,415 --> 00:47:24,165
[Casey] When they got married,
it was a big, elaborate,
to-do in Tulsa
799
00:47:24,165 --> 00:47:26,977
where who's who was invited.
800
00:47:26,977 --> 00:47:28,019
It was a giant wedding.
801
00:47:29,686 --> 00:47:31,908
When Dru gave birth to Armie,
802
00:47:31,978 --> 00:47:34,513
they would parade him
around to Grandpa's.
803
00:47:34,582 --> 00:47:36,596
Everyone fawned all over him.
804
00:47:39,166 --> 00:47:42,187
I remember being
at Michael and Dru's house
in the Palisades.
805
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:46,075
Armie, just this little,
cute towhead little boy,
806
00:47:46,145 --> 00:47:48,020
comes up to me.
807
00:47:48,020 --> 00:47:49,374
And Michael says,
"Are you gonna give
808
00:47:49,374 --> 00:47:51,458
your aunt Casey
a hug goodbye?"
809
00:47:51,458 --> 00:47:53,645
[laughing] And he kicked me
in the shins.
810
00:47:55,833 --> 00:47:58,541
I was like, "You're such
a little brat."
811
00:47:58,541 --> 00:48:03,332
But God forbid you touch
or say anything bad to Armie.
812
00:48:03,332 --> 00:48:06,493
He was given
Armand Douglas Hammer,
after my grandfather.
813
00:48:07,638 --> 00:48:10,000
He was the prince, the crown,
814
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,707
the continuation
of the Hammer name,
815
00:48:12,707 --> 00:48:14,791
so the whole Hammer family
could live again
816
00:48:14,791 --> 00:48:16,493
in a whole another generation.
817
00:48:23,472 --> 00:48:25,625
-Armand Hammer--
-Dr. Armand Hammer--
818
00:48:25,625 --> 00:48:28,126
Self-made millionaire
Armand Hammer is dead.
819
00:48:28,126 --> 00:48:30,416
He died last night
at the age of 92.
820
00:48:34,583 --> 00:48:38,438
[Casey] I was living in Hawaii
when I got a phone call
821
00:48:38,438 --> 00:48:41,077
that my grandfather
had passed.
822
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:43,195
And...
823
00:48:44,723 --> 00:48:46,876
...it was the phone call
that you never thought
824
00:48:46,876 --> 00:48:48,751
was gonna happen.
It was from Michael.
825
00:48:50,105 --> 00:48:54,064
I remember
dropping the phone...
826
00:48:55,210 --> 00:48:59,792
...and the room spinning.
827
00:48:59,792 --> 00:49:03,439
[newscaster 1] Armand Hammer,
philanthropist, art collector,
and industrialist...
828
00:49:03,439 --> 00:49:06,911
It was a huge deal.
The coverage was incredible.
829
00:49:06,980 --> 00:49:10,140
[newscaster 2] From 1921,
Hammer was making deals...
830
00:49:10,209 --> 00:49:14,689
[Casey] I just remember
being at the airport getting
ready to board my flight,
831
00:49:14,689 --> 00:49:18,856
and on all the monitors
and TV screens,
"Armand Hammer Dies."
832
00:49:18,856 --> 00:49:21,599
[newscaster 3] Armand Hammer,
the son of one of the founders
833
00:49:21,668 --> 00:49:24,620
of the American
Communist Party,
acquired Occidental...
834
00:49:24,689 --> 00:49:26,668
[Casey] You couldn't
get away from it.
835
00:49:27,224 --> 00:49:28,960
It was just surreal.
836
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,085
I hope that when I pass on,
I will have left the world
837
00:49:32,085 --> 00:49:34,203
a little better than
when I found it.
838
00:49:40,836 --> 00:49:42,607
[Casey] Michael had called me,
839
00:49:42,607 --> 00:49:46,878
and Grandpa was still
dead on the bed
840
00:49:46,878 --> 00:49:48,961
while he was
looting the house.
841
00:49:50,558 --> 00:49:53,128
There were five vans
out front,
842
00:49:53,128 --> 00:49:55,940
and Michael and Dru
bringing down tapestries
843
00:49:55,940 --> 00:49:58,023
and taking things
from the house.
844
00:49:59,204 --> 00:50:00,837
I had flown in that morning.
845
00:50:00,837 --> 00:50:04,587
I rented a car and I remember
driving to my father's house.
846
00:50:04,587 --> 00:50:08,579
I was just trying
to make sense of everything.
847
00:50:08,649 --> 00:50:12,087
Few days later, we were called
into Arthur Groman's office,
848
00:50:12,087 --> 00:50:15,212
who was my grandfather's
best friend and attorney,
849
00:50:15,212 --> 00:50:17,815
and that was where
the reading of the will was.
850
00:50:23,372 --> 00:50:26,497
Michael was on my right
and my father
was across from me.
851
00:50:28,441 --> 00:50:32,192
Arthur Groman's
reading through it and saying,
852
00:50:32,192 --> 00:50:33,893
"And I leave my granddaughter,
853
00:50:33,962 --> 00:50:38,476
Casey Layne Hammer,
$250,000 in cash."
854
00:50:38,545 --> 00:50:40,837
Let's see what else.
855
00:50:40,837 --> 00:50:43,442
"And I leave Julian Hammer,
my son...
856
00:50:44,726 --> 00:50:46,601
...$500,000.
857
00:50:46,671 --> 00:50:49,831
Pay off his house and car
and debts.
858
00:50:51,185 --> 00:50:55,734
And I leave
Michael Armand Hammer
the Rolls-Royce."
859
00:50:55,734 --> 00:50:58,859
[child laughing]
860
00:50:58,859 --> 00:51:02,088
[Casey] And then
the last paragraph or so was,
861
00:51:02,088 --> 00:51:04,414
"And the executor
of the estate
862
00:51:05,213 --> 00:51:06,810
is Michael Armand Hammer
863
00:51:07,505 --> 00:51:10,837
and his wife, Dru Ann Hammer."
864
00:51:13,998 --> 00:51:16,568
My grandfather had
865
00:51:16,568 --> 00:51:19,102
$40 million of cash left.
866
00:51:21,290 --> 00:51:23,373
I got $250,000,
867
00:51:23,373 --> 00:51:25,457
my father got $500,000...
868
00:51:26,603 --> 00:51:29,172
...everything else got
passed on to Michael.
869
00:51:30,214 --> 00:51:32,402
At that point, you're like,
"Wait, what?"
870
00:51:33,755 --> 00:51:36,707
You don't think
you're hearing any of it.
871
00:51:38,548 --> 00:51:42,610
And my father starts
going off,
872
00:51:42,610 --> 00:51:45,041
"What do you mean,
you get the Rolls-Royce?
873
00:51:45,110 --> 00:51:47,541
I want the Rolls-Royce."
And I'm like,
874
00:51:47,610 --> 00:51:49,694
in my mind, thinking,
875
00:51:49,694 --> 00:51:52,610
"You don't even
understand the gravity
of what just happened."
876
00:51:53,444 --> 00:51:55,770
It made no sense.
877
00:51:55,839 --> 00:51:58,444
And when I asked when
the new will was signed...
878
00:51:59,486 --> 00:52:01,812
...it was in October.
879
00:52:01,881 --> 00:52:04,172
Forty days later,
my grandfather died.
880
00:52:16,916 --> 00:52:19,174
[Epstein] The expectation
of his family members
881
00:52:19,174 --> 00:52:21,604
was he was a billionaire.
882
00:52:21,673 --> 00:52:23,756
And then when
his will was read...
883
00:52:25,216 --> 00:52:26,570
...they learned
that he wasn't.
884
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,883
He had given away
most of his money.
885
00:52:34,209 --> 00:52:38,167
So, the Hammer family
was left basically fighting
among themselves.
886
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:44,209
Michael decided he would grab
as much of the money
887
00:52:44,279 --> 00:52:46,605
and as much of the power
as he could,
888
00:52:46,674 --> 00:52:50,042
and as executive,
there were very few people
to oppose him.
889
00:52:52,647 --> 00:52:55,147
[Casey] It was like checkmate.
890
00:52:55,216 --> 00:52:58,341
Michael was putting the screws
to my father and I,
891
00:52:58,341 --> 00:53:00,946
and my brother told my mother,
892
00:53:00,946 --> 00:53:03,758
"Casey's just a casualty,"
893
00:53:03,758 --> 00:53:06,397
because he hated
my father so much,
894
00:53:06,397 --> 00:53:08,029
he wanted him out
on the street.
895
00:53:10,737 --> 00:53:15,356
To have Michael,
who professed himself
as a man of God,
896
00:53:15,425 --> 00:53:17,752
doing this to my father
and myself...
897
00:53:22,023 --> 00:53:25,321
...it's not about
the inheritance as much
as it is about
898
00:53:26,155 --> 00:53:27,508
just being acknowledged.
899
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,843
I was completely left out.
900
00:53:32,197 --> 00:53:34,696
That's really sad
when you realize that
901
00:53:34,696 --> 00:53:38,586
[voice shaking]
you don't have any family
or anybody who love you.
902
00:53:42,856 --> 00:53:44,732
I don't know how
to process all of that.
903
00:53:45,565 --> 00:53:47,023
I just, um...
904
00:53:48,238 --> 00:53:49,280
...yeah.
905
00:53:51,398 --> 00:53:52,927
It didn't end well.
906
00:54:02,822 --> 00:54:06,086
Armie talked a lot about
the evilness
907
00:54:06,156 --> 00:54:08,691
of the men in his family.
908
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,510
His dad, his grandpa,
his great-grandpa.
909
00:54:12,510 --> 00:54:15,462
But he didn't sound like
he was ashamed of it.
910
00:54:15,531 --> 00:54:18,761
It's almost like it was
a badge of honor.
911
00:54:26,816 --> 00:54:29,178
After the Sedona night
with the ropes,
912
00:54:29,178 --> 00:54:31,712
Armie's pulling me
even closer.
913
00:54:36,087 --> 00:54:39,629
We go to Dallas
and meet his mom.
914
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,046
He warned me that
it would be interesting.
915
00:54:46,817 --> 00:54:49,386
And that, it was.
916
00:54:51,262 --> 00:54:55,324
She's just like Armie,
she's gorgeous, tall,
really beautiful.
917
00:54:56,783 --> 00:54:58,484
They both command a room.
918
00:54:58,553 --> 00:55:00,150
You know,
they have a presence.
919
00:55:03,033 --> 00:55:06,921
At dinner, Armie was talking
920
00:55:06,991 --> 00:55:10,463
negatively about his father.
921
00:55:10,532 --> 00:55:14,005
And she just blurted out,
"You need to give him
some slack,
922
00:55:14,075 --> 00:55:17,304
because this happened to him
923
00:55:17,304 --> 00:55:20,117
when he was younger."
924
00:55:21,505 --> 00:55:25,325
And it was something
that I should not
have been there for.
925
00:55:30,151 --> 00:55:34,214
Nobody could have
been prepared for what
I heard that night.
926
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,637
It was just some
deep-rooted family trauma.
927
00:55:45,326 --> 00:55:48,277
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