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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,283 --> 00:00:09,243 We've all seen James Bond. 2 00:00:09,243 --> 00:00:12,083 The question is, what will it be like? 3 00:00:12,083 --> 00:00:15,123 Will I be asked to kill people? How dangerous will it be? 4 00:00:17,963 --> 00:00:20,083 Most people live in blissful ignorance 5 00:00:20,083 --> 00:00:21,603 of what goes on around them. 6 00:00:21,603 --> 00:00:23,883 It's a spy's job to keep it that way. 7 00:00:28,203 --> 00:00:30,603 I believe till last moment he will recover. 8 00:00:30,603 --> 00:00:33,643 But his heart stopped at the end. 9 00:00:43,803 --> 00:00:47,763 When an intelligence officer is recruiting a spy, 10 00:00:47,763 --> 00:00:50,083 they think of the acronym MICE: 11 00:00:50,083 --> 00:00:55,003 money, ideology, coercion, ego. 12 00:00:57,523 --> 00:01:02,243 Other members of MI6 just don't believe he could possibly be a spy. 13 00:01:02,243 --> 00:01:05,683 Were you, in fact, the third man? No, I was not. 14 00:01:09,443 --> 00:01:12,723 Can you imagine waking up and worrying you might have 15 00:01:12,723 --> 00:01:16,283 said something that would give you away as a traitor? 16 00:01:18,443 --> 00:01:21,803 I heard the voice menacingly uttering these words, 17 00:01:21,803 --> 00:01:27,043 "We know who you are. We know who you're working for. It's over." 18 00:01:56,523 --> 00:01:58,963 The world of espionage is all around us. 19 00:01:58,963 --> 00:02:03,283 It's an unseen world. Operations are playing out all the time. 20 00:02:03,283 --> 00:02:05,003 Narratives we never see or hear. 21 00:02:06,643 --> 00:02:12,763 Deceit and manipulation are... are hard-wired into the profession. 22 00:02:21,523 --> 00:02:23,523 If you can persuade the enemy 23 00:02:23,523 --> 00:02:25,763 that you're approaching from the right flank 24 00:02:25,763 --> 00:02:27,203 rather than the left flank, 25 00:02:27,203 --> 00:02:30,203 then you're going to be able to achieve surprise. 26 00:02:33,643 --> 00:02:37,283 We have to maintain the deceit, because typically, 27 00:02:37,283 --> 00:02:40,523 you're operating in hostile environments. 28 00:02:40,523 --> 00:02:44,483 If you are caught, then the results could be catastrophic. 29 00:02:49,803 --> 00:02:54,763 The absolute bedrock of any intelligence service is deception. 30 00:02:54,763 --> 00:02:56,643 If you're going to work secretly, 31 00:02:56,643 --> 00:03:00,003 you've got to mislead the other side. They mustn't see you coming. 32 00:03:03,563 --> 00:03:07,163 What you need to do is to feed your story to the adversary 33 00:03:07,163 --> 00:03:09,083 through as many channels as possible. 34 00:03:09,083 --> 00:03:11,683 So they begin to believe, "Well, it must be true." 35 00:03:27,443 --> 00:03:29,403 AIR-RAID SIREN BLARES 36 00:03:41,563 --> 00:03:43,563 MORSE CODE MACHINE BLEEPS 37 00:03:53,963 --> 00:03:56,403 My father was a German double agent, 38 00:03:56,403 --> 00:04:00,123 sending information to the German secret services. 39 00:04:00,123 --> 00:04:04,363 He actually worked for the American Army as a liaison officer, 40 00:04:04,363 --> 00:04:08,723 just outside west London. And so he was on the radio, 41 00:04:08,723 --> 00:04:11,043 supplying information to the Germans. 42 00:04:11,043 --> 00:04:14,803 As we got closer and closer to the D-Day landings, 43 00:04:14,803 --> 00:04:17,683 he was reporting on gatherings of troops 44 00:04:17,683 --> 00:04:22,123 and gatherings of senior military officials. 45 00:04:27,803 --> 00:04:32,323 Really detailed, er, war plans about the build-up of troops 46 00:04:32,323 --> 00:04:35,323 that were clearly gonna be landing at Calais. 47 00:04:36,763 --> 00:04:38,523 These troops were assembling, 48 00:04:38,523 --> 00:04:42,283 in anticipation of a major move across the English Channel. 49 00:04:42,283 --> 00:04:47,243 The extraordinary fact is that that was completely fictitious. 50 00:04:48,363 --> 00:04:49,563 The job never existed. 51 00:04:49,563 --> 00:04:52,843 And my father was giving created information 52 00:04:52,843 --> 00:04:55,643 as part of a bigger picture to divert attention away 53 00:04:55,643 --> 00:04:59,363 from the real landings that were gonna take place in Normandy. 54 00:05:22,203 --> 00:05:27,283 With Double Cross, the idea was to run double agents 55 00:05:27,283 --> 00:05:28,723 against Nazi Germany, 56 00:05:28,723 --> 00:05:31,003 and in many cases, for the Germans to think 57 00:05:31,003 --> 00:05:33,163 that they were really their own agents. 58 00:05:35,163 --> 00:05:38,563 It took a particular kind of fiendish intelligence, I think, 59 00:05:38,563 --> 00:05:41,843 to feed material back to the Germans in order to deceive them. 60 00:05:41,843 --> 00:05:47,723 It's about persuading the Germans that we're going to attack 61 00:05:47,723 --> 00:05:50,203 not in Normandy, but in Calais. 62 00:05:51,243 --> 00:05:54,563 It's a long, slow deception 63 00:05:54,563 --> 00:06:00,043 of gradually feeding pieces of intelligence, information, 64 00:06:00,043 --> 00:06:04,203 to the Germans ahead of the landing on the beaches of D-Day. 65 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:12,603 My father was a case officer, 66 00:06:12,603 --> 00:06:17,523 which meant that he had charge of the double agent, 67 00:06:17,523 --> 00:06:21,083 and was responsible for coordinating the information 68 00:06:21,083 --> 00:06:23,123 that they sent back to Germany. 69 00:06:24,803 --> 00:06:27,123 There were some ground rules. 70 00:06:27,123 --> 00:06:30,763 All of the messages sent out by the double agents 71 00:06:30,763 --> 00:06:32,203 were coordinated 72 00:06:32,203 --> 00:06:36,283 because it was vital that not one agent tripped another agent. 73 00:06:44,323 --> 00:06:46,603 The people running this operation 74 00:06:46,603 --> 00:06:49,123 are effectively conducting an orchestra, 75 00:06:49,123 --> 00:06:52,403 and there are different instruments in this orchestra. 76 00:06:52,403 --> 00:06:57,963 In some cases, it's spies who are sending back false information. 77 00:06:57,963 --> 00:07:03,403 In other cases, it's physical things. It's entire phoney armies. 78 00:07:03,403 --> 00:07:08,243 WEST: You'll be able to look and see aircraft and gliders, 79 00:07:08,243 --> 00:07:10,563 landing craft, in river estuaries. 80 00:07:12,203 --> 00:07:13,883 What they weren't aware of 81 00:07:13,883 --> 00:07:17,003 were the tanks were dummy rubber, blow-up tanks. 82 00:07:17,003 --> 00:07:19,283 The landing craft were made of balsa wood. 83 00:07:19,283 --> 00:07:22,803 And many of the aircraft were dummy aircraft 84 00:07:22,803 --> 00:07:25,323 concentrated on airfields in the southeast of England 85 00:07:25,323 --> 00:07:26,763 and East Anglia. 86 00:07:26,763 --> 00:07:30,643 Because that would clearly be the launch point for an attack 87 00:07:30,643 --> 00:07:32,563 across to the Pas de Calais. 88 00:07:34,683 --> 00:07:39,923 It's difficult these days to imagine anything so complex working. 89 00:07:39,923 --> 00:07:42,403 There's great risk with deception 90 00:07:42,403 --> 00:07:45,803 that if the adversary sees through it, 91 00:07:45,803 --> 00:07:49,083 then you've actually given them the one thing 92 00:07:49,083 --> 00:07:52,323 that you were trying to avoid, which is your true intentions. 93 00:07:54,163 --> 00:07:56,243 GERRY: It was desperately important 94 00:07:56,243 --> 00:07:58,763 that the potential build-up of German troops 95 00:07:58,763 --> 00:08:00,723 were diverted away from Normandy, 96 00:08:00,723 --> 00:08:04,123 because otherwise D-Day would stop pretty much dead in its tracks. 97 00:08:04,123 --> 00:08:06,523 MORSE CODE MACHINE BEEPS 98 00:08:06,523 --> 00:08:08,443 And so, agents like my father 99 00:08:08,443 --> 00:08:11,603 carried on sending and transmitting information 100 00:08:11,603 --> 00:08:14,923 that the invasion of Calais was to take place. 101 00:08:16,283 --> 00:08:19,243 SUSTAINED GUNFIRE AND EXPLOSIONS 102 00:08:28,203 --> 00:08:30,603 The German High Command 103 00:08:30,603 --> 00:08:34,443 was convinced by clever multiple deceptions. 104 00:08:34,443 --> 00:08:38,523 They held back a whole German armoured division. 105 00:08:38,523 --> 00:08:41,723 And that may well have saved the Normandy landings, 106 00:08:41,723 --> 00:08:45,963 cos if that armoured division had been opposing the landings, 107 00:08:45,963 --> 00:08:48,683 then it could all have ended very, very badly. 108 00:08:50,323 --> 00:08:53,723 ALDRICH: So this is deception on a massive scale, 109 00:08:53,723 --> 00:08:55,083 and it's so effective 110 00:08:55,083 --> 00:08:59,043 that even after the Allies have landed in Normandy, 111 00:08:59,043 --> 00:09:02,443 the Germans believe that the real attack is a fake. 112 00:09:02,443 --> 00:09:06,403 They believe the deception story so completely. 113 00:09:06,403 --> 00:09:09,203 CHUCKLING: They even continue to believe it 114 00:09:09,203 --> 00:09:11,643 once the allies have landed after D-Day. 115 00:09:11,643 --> 00:09:13,683 It's a remarkable achievement. 116 00:09:16,403 --> 00:09:18,763 Double Cross is not just one of the great operations 117 00:09:18,763 --> 00:09:20,043 of the Second World War, 118 00:09:20,043 --> 00:09:22,763 but it was one of the greatest deception successes in history. 119 00:09:24,803 --> 00:09:29,403 I'm proud of my father. It's an extraordinary achievement. 120 00:09:29,403 --> 00:09:33,763 It's what intelligence has morphed into in the 21st century, 121 00:09:33,763 --> 00:09:35,203 is by and large is the offspring 122 00:09:35,203 --> 00:09:39,043 of the success of the Double Cross system in the Second World War. 123 00:09:39,043 --> 00:09:43,283 There will be thousands of my father's equivalents 124 00:09:43,283 --> 00:09:46,443 wandering the streets of London or Kabul. 125 00:09:46,443 --> 00:09:48,523 So it's kind of, yeah, the game goes on. 126 00:10:15,123 --> 00:10:17,043 MI6 isn't a building full of spies. 127 00:10:17,043 --> 00:10:19,243 It's a building full of intelligence officers. 128 00:10:19,243 --> 00:10:21,043 Intelligence officers recruit agents. 129 00:10:21,043 --> 00:10:23,843 Those agents are the spies that are in their organisations. 130 00:10:25,523 --> 00:10:30,283 An agent is a person who's outside of an intelligence agency. 131 00:10:30,283 --> 00:10:33,723 They're a normal person going about their normal lives, 132 00:10:33,723 --> 00:10:36,163 and they would be approached and recruited 133 00:10:36,163 --> 00:10:39,003 by someone who works for an intelligence agency. 134 00:10:39,003 --> 00:10:42,403 In the UK, we call this person an officer. 135 00:10:42,403 --> 00:10:45,923 And the idea is that every officer should have a range of agents. 136 00:10:45,923 --> 00:10:48,763 A web of agents, if you like, who report on their various targets. 137 00:10:51,003 --> 00:10:55,323 If you can recruit somebody in the enemy organization, 138 00:10:55,323 --> 00:10:59,843 you are effectively crippling your enemy. 139 00:10:59,843 --> 00:11:02,203 And that's what really does damage. 140 00:11:02,203 --> 00:11:05,203 That's the really big win in intelligence circles. 141 00:11:19,163 --> 00:11:22,163 I remember, as a senior military intelligence officer, 142 00:11:22,163 --> 00:11:25,883 reading reports that had come from MI6. 143 00:11:25,883 --> 00:11:30,603 And it was clear from what was being said in those reports 144 00:11:30,603 --> 00:11:32,923 that they had someone inside Al-Qaeda. 145 00:11:36,283 --> 00:11:39,843 One thing you should know about espionage, as well as bomb-making, 146 00:11:39,843 --> 00:11:42,683 the first mistake is your last mistake. 147 00:11:42,683 --> 00:11:45,283 You're not going to live to make another mistake. 148 00:11:54,323 --> 00:11:56,043 RAPID GUNFIRE 149 00:11:57,283 --> 00:12:00,523 He realised that Al-Qaeda were targeting non-combatants, 150 00:12:00,523 --> 00:12:05,323 civilian targets, targeting other Muslims, and killing more Muslims. 151 00:12:05,323 --> 00:12:07,083 That was when it was very clear in his mind, 152 00:12:07,083 --> 00:12:08,443 that's not what he signed up for. 153 00:12:11,843 --> 00:12:18,843 I made the conscious decision to leave, and through some... 154 00:12:18,843 --> 00:12:21,923 you know, some incredible circumstances, 155 00:12:21,923 --> 00:12:25,523 I ended up in the lap of the British intelligence. 156 00:12:32,323 --> 00:12:37,003 That is probably one of the bravest things that he has done, 157 00:12:37,003 --> 00:12:39,723 and it's a mark of how he was trusted 158 00:12:39,723 --> 00:12:43,003 within the Al-Qaeda organisation that he managed to do that. 159 00:12:44,483 --> 00:12:48,883 When you're a spy, you have to really convince yourself 160 00:12:48,883 --> 00:12:54,963 that you are a genuine West-hating, bloodthirsty jihadist, 161 00:12:54,963 --> 00:12:58,043 and you have no qualms whatsoever 162 00:12:58,043 --> 00:13:01,283 about killing all of those who stand in our way. 163 00:13:23,963 --> 00:13:27,043 Every time Aimen will have come out to be debriefed, 164 00:13:27,043 --> 00:13:30,603 they'll have had to make sure that he wasn't compromised. 165 00:13:30,603 --> 00:13:33,563 So that when they do put him back in again, 166 00:13:33,563 --> 00:13:37,843 he won't be arrested by them, tortured, and then killed. 167 00:13:37,843 --> 00:13:42,763 Your task is to absorb everything around you. 168 00:13:42,763 --> 00:13:46,563 You are learning about the camps, locations, 169 00:13:46,563 --> 00:13:51,603 the number of people attending, the names, aliases. 170 00:13:51,603 --> 00:13:54,603 You spend literally, you know, hundreds of hours 171 00:13:54,603 --> 00:13:56,163 reconstructing it again 172 00:13:56,163 --> 00:13:59,043 for the benefit of the intelligence services. 173 00:14:01,323 --> 00:14:05,083 MI6 would provide training to an agent it recruits 174 00:14:05,083 --> 00:14:09,363 about how to be aware of any risk or danger to themselves, 175 00:14:09,363 --> 00:14:12,483 but a lot of times, these agents have to rely on their own wits. 176 00:14:18,483 --> 00:14:23,723 I remember in 1999, in one of the camps, I was in the kitchen. 177 00:14:29,843 --> 00:14:36,523 I distinctly felt the end of a pistol against my spine. 178 00:14:36,523 --> 00:14:40,483 I heard the voice of one of our fellow jihadists in the camp. 179 00:14:40,483 --> 00:14:46,163 "We know who you are, we know who you're working for. It's over." 180 00:14:47,443 --> 00:14:53,283 One wrong word and you are a head shorter and six feet under. 181 00:14:55,123 --> 00:14:59,923 So I told him, in no uncertain terms, "Lower your weapon. 182 00:14:59,923 --> 00:15:05,963 "It is explicitly forbidden to point a gun at a fellow jihadist. 183 00:15:05,963 --> 00:15:08,483 "And I won't tolerate this joke." 184 00:15:17,043 --> 00:15:19,763 It's not an uncommon practice among different organisations 185 00:15:19,763 --> 00:15:22,163 whenever they know they've got a mole somewhere. 186 00:15:22,163 --> 00:15:25,403 They'll do things to shock people and watch what their reaction is, 187 00:15:25,403 --> 00:15:28,283 and this was clearly designed to shock him. 188 00:15:30,003 --> 00:15:33,963 After he left the kitchen, 189 00:15:33,963 --> 00:15:36,443 even though it was November, in Afghanistan, 190 00:15:36,443 --> 00:15:38,443 it was starting to snow, 191 00:15:38,443 --> 00:15:41,563 you know, I was sweating buckets. 192 00:15:44,323 --> 00:15:46,883 It's a mark of the strength of his character 193 00:15:46,883 --> 00:15:49,723 that in that sort of situation, he didn't panic 194 00:15:49,723 --> 00:15:51,203 and give away indicators 195 00:15:51,203 --> 00:15:54,043 to suggest that he was the mole, he was the agent. 196 00:16:14,083 --> 00:16:20,243 Life in the University of Cambridge in the 1930s was very exclusive, 197 00:16:20,243 --> 00:16:25,483 publicly-educated men would be part of a quite intimate circle 198 00:16:25,483 --> 00:16:28,523 that was also quite arrogant. 199 00:16:36,763 --> 00:16:40,403 These are clever people. They can see what's happening in Germany. 200 00:16:40,403 --> 00:16:44,043 They can see what's happening in Italy. And they don't like it. 201 00:16:44,043 --> 00:16:47,723 Who are the people who are resisting fascism in the mid-1930s? 202 00:16:47,723 --> 00:16:49,243 It's the communists. 203 00:16:51,203 --> 00:16:55,083 Communism is seen as the answer, 204 00:16:55,083 --> 00:17:01,443 but it's not necessarily seen as in conflict, surprisingly, 205 00:17:01,443 --> 00:17:02,963 with being British. 206 00:17:09,323 --> 00:17:12,323 The Soviet Union had decided on a new policy 207 00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:14,843 that they would target undergraduates 208 00:17:14,843 --> 00:17:16,203 at the best universities 209 00:17:16,203 --> 00:17:18,163 who were likely to go on to good jobs. 210 00:17:18,163 --> 00:17:22,843 They're saying to their recruits "Just stay in the background, 211 00:17:22,843 --> 00:17:26,123 "go into Whitehall, go into Westminster, go into politics. 212 00:17:26,123 --> 00:17:29,923 "In the future, you're going to be useful to us." 213 00:17:42,523 --> 00:17:46,803 He was won over by the cause, not as a concept or an ideology, 214 00:17:46,803 --> 00:17:49,883 but as an action that he could take. 215 00:17:49,883 --> 00:17:52,203 He was young and he was impassioned 216 00:17:52,203 --> 00:17:54,603 and he felt like he could change the world. 217 00:17:56,363 --> 00:17:59,163 Kim went to Westminster, he went to Cambridge, 218 00:17:59,163 --> 00:18:02,883 he was part of that upper-class, British, stiff-upper-lip, 219 00:18:02,883 --> 00:18:04,723 "don't dwell too much on your emotions, 220 00:18:04,723 --> 00:18:06,523 "certain things we never talk about." 221 00:18:06,523 --> 00:18:08,323 So you sort of compartmentalise. 222 00:18:08,323 --> 00:18:10,923 And it sort of breeds an ability to keep secrets. 223 00:18:12,723 --> 00:18:16,563 I think he walked between these two worlds. There was this secret life. 224 00:18:16,563 --> 00:18:21,243 You learn to hide your feelings to, in a sense, play the game, 225 00:18:21,243 --> 00:18:22,443 and you become a chameleon. 226 00:18:25,323 --> 00:18:28,203 NEWSREEL: 'The government's final warning to Hitler has been ignored 227 00:18:28,203 --> 00:18:32,163 'and a state of war once more exists between Great Britain and Germany.' 228 00:18:34,683 --> 00:18:37,443 The Russians were very keen for their recruits 229 00:18:37,443 --> 00:18:39,363 to take a whole variety of jobs. 230 00:18:39,363 --> 00:18:41,843 They clearly targeted all sorts of organisations, 231 00:18:41,843 --> 00:18:45,443 but of course, intelligence services were part of that. 232 00:18:45,443 --> 00:18:47,483 There wasn't time to do checks. 233 00:18:47,483 --> 00:18:51,363 And in those days, it was assumed if you'd been to the right school, 234 00:18:51,363 --> 00:18:53,883 that you would be fine. 235 00:18:58,603 --> 00:19:01,483 Mr Lyubimov, could you give your full name please? 236 00:19:01,483 --> 00:19:04,803 Well, it's Lyubimov Mikhail Petrovic. 237 00:19:08,123 --> 00:19:14,643 I entered the KGB in 1959. 238 00:19:14,643 --> 00:19:19,683 I was sent to Great Britain in 1961, 239 00:19:19,683 --> 00:19:22,323 and worked there until '65. 240 00:19:25,083 --> 00:19:28,643 Kim Philby was a very charming man. 241 00:19:28,643 --> 00:19:33,003 To discover such a person is not so easy. 242 00:19:33,003 --> 00:19:35,883 He was from the establishment. 243 00:19:35,883 --> 00:19:41,163 He was a son of a very important man, a scientist, 244 00:19:41,163 --> 00:19:45,803 and he was closely connected to the British high circles. 245 00:19:45,803 --> 00:19:48,403 And of course, he was trusted. 246 00:19:55,963 --> 00:19:58,643 Philby was, I think, the most successful 247 00:19:58,643 --> 00:20:01,643 at leading that double life, 248 00:20:01,643 --> 00:20:05,323 working his way inside the British Secret Service. 249 00:20:07,323 --> 00:20:09,723 It's sort of a bit of a boys' club. 250 00:20:09,723 --> 00:20:11,723 They all had parents who knew one another, 251 00:20:11,723 --> 00:20:14,683 they all were part of the same elite establishment. 252 00:20:17,763 --> 00:20:22,843 Philby climbs higher and higher within MI6. 253 00:20:22,843 --> 00:20:28,843 And he's ultimately where he wanted to be, head of Section IX. 254 00:20:28,843 --> 00:20:32,883 Ironically, in charge of the Russian desk. 255 00:20:34,083 --> 00:20:36,043 The Russians couldn't believe their luck. 256 00:20:36,043 --> 00:20:38,843 It would've given them a very, very clear advantage 257 00:20:38,843 --> 00:20:41,163 in this crucial moment in the Cold War. 258 00:20:47,683 --> 00:20:50,683 CHARLOTTE PHILBY: It was him who was responsible for keeping tabs 259 00:20:50,683 --> 00:20:53,803 on what they had on the Soviets. 260 00:20:53,803 --> 00:20:56,483 It's something that if you did write it in a novel, 261 00:20:56,483 --> 00:20:59,563 people would think that it was too far-fetched. 262 00:21:26,603 --> 00:21:31,243 When I was operating under alias, I was that person, 263 00:21:31,243 --> 00:21:35,323 there was no question about it. I was not Matthew Dunn. 264 00:21:36,523 --> 00:21:38,243 It is like acting. 265 00:21:38,243 --> 00:21:41,603 Obviously the difference being at the end of a performance, 266 00:21:41,603 --> 00:21:45,323 the actor takes his or her costume off and that's it. 267 00:21:45,323 --> 00:21:49,003 Whereas as intelligence officer, you're living that role 268 00:21:49,003 --> 00:21:52,123 for however long the operation lasts. 269 00:21:54,083 --> 00:21:57,003 HARRY FERGUSON: If you were an officer who was going abroad 270 00:21:57,003 --> 00:22:01,483 as a businessman, you would spend some time shadowing a salesman, 271 00:22:01,483 --> 00:22:04,323 learning the lingo. You've got to be convincing in that role. 272 00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:08,243 And you've actually got to do some of that work. 273 00:22:08,243 --> 00:22:10,563 You are out there undercover, fake identity. 274 00:22:10,563 --> 00:22:14,763 And having to be eternally vigilant does take its wear and tear. 275 00:22:14,763 --> 00:22:16,763 It takes its toll. 276 00:22:18,203 --> 00:22:21,763 At peak, I had 14 aliases. 277 00:22:21,763 --> 00:22:26,523 It's not just a case of having a passport, a credit card... 278 00:22:26,523 --> 00:22:29,963 One has to have a whole life behind that name. 279 00:22:29,963 --> 00:22:31,483 So that would include things like 280 00:22:31,483 --> 00:22:34,563 knowing which schools you've been to, the names of your teachers, 281 00:22:34,563 --> 00:22:37,363 what beer is on draft in your local pub, 282 00:22:37,363 --> 00:22:39,083 what your local cinema is. 283 00:22:39,083 --> 00:22:43,323 The whole backstory. So you have to have answers ready to hand, 284 00:22:43,323 --> 00:22:45,363 in case you get caught out. 285 00:23:16,763 --> 00:23:20,443 Peter and Helen Kroger ran an antiquarian book shop in London, 286 00:23:20,443 --> 00:23:23,523 they lived at Cranley Drive in Ruislip. 287 00:23:23,523 --> 00:23:28,123 They had slightly unusual accents. But to all intents and purposes, 288 00:23:28,123 --> 00:23:31,683 they looked like entirely normal people in the suburbs. 289 00:23:33,243 --> 00:23:35,563 They had a car, they made friends with all the neighbours. 290 00:23:35,563 --> 00:23:39,123 Helen Kroger made a point of having children's parties 291 00:23:39,123 --> 00:23:41,163 and inviting the local neighbours around. 292 00:23:41,163 --> 00:23:44,923 They seemed like an ordinary, if foreign couple 293 00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:48,203 living in that suburban environment. 294 00:23:48,203 --> 00:23:53,523 But there was much more to Peter and Helen Kroger than first met the eye. 295 00:23:58,443 --> 00:24:01,363 NEWSREEL: Ready for her launching and to be given a famous name 296 00:24:01,363 --> 00:24:03,803 at Barrow-in-Furness, a revolutionary ship. 297 00:24:03,803 --> 00:24:07,283 The Royal Navy's first nuclear-powered submarine. 298 00:24:07,283 --> 00:24:12,243 In 1960, Britain was launching the first nuclear submarine 299 00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:13,723 which the United Kingdom had. 300 00:24:13,723 --> 00:24:17,123 I name this ship Dreadnought. 301 00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:20,363 May God bless her and all who sail in her. 302 00:24:22,243 --> 00:24:26,083 Now, Britain was developing a world-beating sonar 303 00:24:26,083 --> 00:24:28,763 for this submarine down at Portland, 304 00:24:28,763 --> 00:24:32,363 the centre of all Britain's, and a lot of NATO research, 305 00:24:32,363 --> 00:24:36,763 into everything secret about underwater warfare. 306 00:24:36,763 --> 00:24:40,443 The KGB had two spies operating inside Portland. 307 00:24:40,443 --> 00:24:42,523 One was a man called Harry Houghton, 308 00:24:42,523 --> 00:24:46,963 and the other was his mistress, called Ethel Gee. 309 00:24:46,963 --> 00:24:49,083 PHONE RINGS 310 00:25:02,643 --> 00:25:05,363 My father was in counter-intelligence. 311 00:25:05,363 --> 00:25:09,403 He had a lot of charm, managed to get people to cooperate 312 00:25:09,403 --> 00:25:13,883 by sympathising with their position, you know, 313 00:25:13,883 --> 00:25:17,083 not just simply telling them they jolly well had to cooperate. 314 00:25:17,083 --> 00:25:20,363 One of the things that my father really didn't like 315 00:25:20,363 --> 00:25:25,443 was he didn't like people pretending to be something they weren't. 316 00:25:30,323 --> 00:25:33,563 MI5 set a surveillance team onto Harry Houghton. 317 00:25:37,283 --> 00:25:40,843 And he came up to London with his girlfriend, Ethel Gee. 318 00:25:48,523 --> 00:25:54,763 And he met, outside the Old Vic, a mysterious man. 319 00:25:56,323 --> 00:25:59,803 And MI5 discovered his name was Gordon Lonsdale. 320 00:25:59,803 --> 00:26:04,563 And the early evidence suggested he was a Canadian businessman. 321 00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:07,083 NEWSREEL: They found that he was certainly in business, 322 00:26:07,083 --> 00:26:09,443 associated with some small companies 323 00:26:09,443 --> 00:26:10,923 operating from the second floor 324 00:26:10,923 --> 00:26:13,443 of number 19 Wardour Street in the West End. 325 00:26:13,443 --> 00:26:16,643 The seedy characters of Harry Houghton 326 00:26:16,643 --> 00:26:20,003 and then Gordon Lonsdale, who lived in Soho in the '60s. 327 00:26:20,003 --> 00:26:21,803 These were, kind of, characters 328 00:26:21,803 --> 00:26:23,883 which you almost couldn't make up now, 329 00:26:23,883 --> 00:26:25,683 but were very much of their time. 330 00:26:39,083 --> 00:26:43,123 Elwell took the top off and discovered, hidden in the bottom, 331 00:26:43,123 --> 00:26:48,523 one-time encoding pads, which were the trademark of the KGB. 332 00:26:48,523 --> 00:26:54,243 There was this moment of realisation by MI5 that they had on their hands 333 00:26:54,243 --> 00:26:56,003 a top KGB spy. 334 00:26:56,003 --> 00:27:01,563 He clearly was a very sophisticated operator. 335 00:27:01,563 --> 00:27:04,043 I mean, brilliant, actually, when you think about it. 336 00:27:04,043 --> 00:27:08,243 My father did have great sensitivity as an investigator. 337 00:27:08,243 --> 00:27:13,003 He had this ability to put himself into Gordon Lonsdale's mind. 338 00:27:22,283 --> 00:27:25,643 Peter and Helen Kroger weren't Peter and Helen Kroger at all. 339 00:27:25,643 --> 00:27:29,883 Their real identity was Lona and Morris Cohen, 340 00:27:29,883 --> 00:27:32,803 and these were top KGB spies 341 00:27:32,803 --> 00:27:37,443 who were recruited by the KGB at the end of the 1930s. 342 00:27:44,603 --> 00:27:48,203 Gordon Lonsdale was their controller, and he, on the one hand, 343 00:27:48,203 --> 00:27:50,683 dealt with Harry Houghton and Ethel Gee 344 00:27:50,683 --> 00:27:53,403 and collected the material from them. 345 00:27:53,403 --> 00:27:56,923 And then he took it over to the Krogers. 346 00:27:56,923 --> 00:28:01,163 The Krogers would send the material to Moscow by means of microdots. 347 00:28:01,163 --> 00:28:08,083 So this is about using sophisticated filming to reduce documents down, 348 00:28:08,083 --> 00:28:09,603 really, to the size of a pinhead. 349 00:28:09,603 --> 00:28:13,603 This is 1960s advanced spy technology. 350 00:28:13,603 --> 00:28:17,523 And because Peter Kroger was an antiquarian book seller, 351 00:28:17,523 --> 00:28:22,603 he would replace the full stops... Think of it, just the full stop, 352 00:28:22,603 --> 00:28:25,043 with a photograph of a secret document. 353 00:28:30,883 --> 00:28:32,963 So when the trial took place, 354 00:28:32,963 --> 00:28:35,483 there was massive international publicity about it. 355 00:28:35,483 --> 00:28:38,403 People could not believe the idea 356 00:28:38,403 --> 00:28:41,443 that antiquarian book sellers living in Ruislip 357 00:28:41,443 --> 00:28:44,803 might have been running a spy base out of their home, 358 00:28:44,803 --> 00:28:47,003 and it did give rise to that question, 359 00:28:47,003 --> 00:28:51,043 "Well, who else might be a spy? Who else next door might be a spy?" 360 00:28:51,043 --> 00:28:54,603 And so this kind of spy fever certainly takes hold in the '60s, 361 00:28:54,603 --> 00:28:58,083 and there's talk of spies and traitors and deception everywhere. 362 00:28:58,083 --> 00:29:03,963 It sounds like fiction, but it's fact. It happened here. 363 00:29:10,323 --> 00:29:13,843 NEWSREEL: The Brandenburg Gate in Berlin was once as proud a landmark 364 00:29:13,843 --> 00:29:15,283 as the Arc de Triomphe. 365 00:29:15,283 --> 00:29:18,563 Now it marks the dividing line between East and West. 366 00:29:18,563 --> 00:29:20,643 Between the two parts of Berlin. 367 00:29:34,523 --> 00:29:40,723 A lot of the spy fiction that we love mirrors reality, 368 00:29:40,723 --> 00:29:44,243 and often written by those that were intelligence officers. 369 00:29:44,243 --> 00:29:46,643 They've inhabited that world, they understand it, 370 00:29:46,643 --> 00:29:49,443 so that fact and fiction just blurs. 371 00:29:52,563 --> 00:29:55,083 I had an obsession with authenticity, 372 00:29:55,083 --> 00:29:57,643 or the search for authenticity, 373 00:29:57,643 --> 00:30:00,403 and that made me, well, frankly, 374 00:30:00,403 --> 00:30:03,603 travel to almost all the places I mentioned in the books. 375 00:30:03,603 --> 00:30:06,123 That derived, really, from The Day Of The Jackal. 376 00:30:06,123 --> 00:30:08,603 I wanted to see the real thing. 377 00:30:15,083 --> 00:30:18,523 If you're going into that world at all, absolutely vital 378 00:30:18,523 --> 00:30:20,123 that you have a cover story, 379 00:30:20,123 --> 00:30:23,883 and the best cover story of them all is true. 380 00:30:23,883 --> 00:30:27,363 I was a foreign correspondent in East Germany, 381 00:30:27,363 --> 00:30:31,723 who legitimately asks questions and reports back, 382 00:30:31,723 --> 00:30:33,603 supposedly to his editor, 383 00:30:33,603 --> 00:30:36,843 but maybe to someone else, apart from the editor. 384 00:30:36,843 --> 00:30:40,963 I knew my office was bugged. My bedroom was bugged. 385 00:30:40,963 --> 00:30:42,683 My sitting room was bugged. 386 00:30:42,683 --> 00:30:45,643 And whenever I went out onto the street, there they were behind me. 387 00:30:47,483 --> 00:30:49,843 I could just stay in East Germany 388 00:30:49,843 --> 00:30:52,803 for three, four, five, six days at a time. 389 00:30:52,803 --> 00:30:56,323 And while there, I could do whatever was wanted, 390 00:30:56,323 --> 00:31:00,083 deliver a message, pick up a message, observe and report back. 391 00:31:09,323 --> 00:31:12,563 Because David Cornwell was a serving intelligence officer, 392 00:31:12,563 --> 00:31:14,363 he decided that he needed a pseudonym. 393 00:31:14,363 --> 00:31:17,763 So he adopted the pseudonym John Le Carre. 394 00:31:17,763 --> 00:31:18,963 John Le Carre, of course, 395 00:31:18,963 --> 00:31:22,843 specialised in books about deception, dissimulation. 396 00:31:22,843 --> 00:31:26,363 Um, pretending not to be what you are and to be what you're not, 397 00:31:26,363 --> 00:31:27,483 and getting away it. 398 00:31:28,883 --> 00:31:30,563 He made occasional trips into Berlin, 399 00:31:30,563 --> 00:31:32,963 which was then an island inside East Germany, 400 00:31:32,963 --> 00:31:34,843 and he found out that the East Germans 401 00:31:34,843 --> 00:31:38,123 were erecting a wall dividing the city in half. 402 00:31:38,123 --> 00:31:42,403 And it became the dominant symbol of John Le Carre's breakthrough novel, 403 00:31:42,403 --> 00:31:43,843 The Spy Who Came In From The Cold. 404 00:31:46,803 --> 00:31:49,963 It was one of the last major feature films made in black and white, 405 00:31:49,963 --> 00:31:51,723 and it was deliberately done 406 00:31:51,723 --> 00:31:56,043 in order to give a sense of the, kind of, bleakness of the Cold War. 407 00:31:56,043 --> 00:31:58,083 Everything was grey and dark. 408 00:31:58,083 --> 00:32:00,723 SIREN BLARES 409 00:32:05,003 --> 00:32:07,363 Halt! Halt! 410 00:32:08,563 --> 00:32:10,723 GUNFIRE 411 00:32:17,803 --> 00:32:22,283 Prior to that, it was assumed that all espionage was just gentlemen, 412 00:32:22,283 --> 00:32:25,683 all public school, all jolly good chaps. 413 00:32:25,683 --> 00:32:29,123 John Le Carre was the first to say, "No, it's not like that at all. 414 00:32:29,123 --> 00:32:33,043 "It's down there, dark and devious and mucky, 415 00:32:33,043 --> 00:32:36,083 "and involving treachery and betrayal." 416 00:32:44,523 --> 00:32:46,603 What the hell do you think spies are? 417 00:32:46,603 --> 00:32:48,843 Moral philosophers measuring everything they do 418 00:32:48,843 --> 00:32:50,563 against the word of God or Karl Marx? 419 00:32:50,563 --> 00:32:54,443 They're not. They're just a bunch of seedy, squalid bastards like me. 420 00:32:54,443 --> 00:32:58,123 But the real world of espionage is about deception, 421 00:32:58,123 --> 00:33:01,923 and sometimes the horrible penalties of failure to deceive - 422 00:33:01,923 --> 00:33:03,483 being caught. 423 00:33:36,963 --> 00:33:39,603 You bury your nervousness so deep 424 00:33:39,603 --> 00:33:42,363 in order to make sure that it doesn't show. 425 00:33:42,363 --> 00:33:48,123 From dawn all the way until mid-afternoon, 426 00:33:48,123 --> 00:33:50,483 that is where we are experimenting 427 00:33:50,483 --> 00:33:52,763 and blowing up new kind of explosives, 428 00:33:52,763 --> 00:33:55,803 or testing, you know, the latest batch 429 00:33:55,803 --> 00:33:58,123 of poisons or chemical weapons. 430 00:34:00,963 --> 00:34:04,883 Al-Qaeda were very interested in particularly chemical weapons 431 00:34:04,883 --> 00:34:07,883 and did a lot of work in Afghanistan 432 00:34:07,883 --> 00:34:12,403 trying to produce a small, compact, viable, chemical 433 00:34:12,403 --> 00:34:14,963 improvised explosive device 434 00:34:14,963 --> 00:34:17,963 that could be used to kill and maim people. 435 00:34:19,323 --> 00:34:24,283 These are bombs, or chemical gas devices 436 00:34:24,283 --> 00:34:29,683 to be left on trains, insides cinemas, nightclubs. 437 00:34:29,683 --> 00:34:34,123 There are no civilians as far as our enemies are concerned. 438 00:34:37,163 --> 00:34:42,243 A chemical bomb or a biological bomb going off on the New York Subway 439 00:34:42,243 --> 00:34:46,123 or the UK Underground would have a devastating impact. 440 00:34:58,283 --> 00:35:04,363 Whenever agents come across nuggets of information, like Aimen did, 441 00:35:04,363 --> 00:35:08,123 that's when you get something that is so important to get out, 442 00:35:08,123 --> 00:35:11,123 especially if it's... if there's a timeliness attached to it, 443 00:35:11,123 --> 00:35:15,683 the agent will take additional risks to get the information out 444 00:35:15,683 --> 00:35:17,403 so they can try and stop the attack. 445 00:35:18,723 --> 00:35:21,683 If you are nervous, it'll show. 446 00:35:21,683 --> 00:35:24,523 The first mistake is your last mistake. 447 00:35:24,523 --> 00:35:27,203 You're not going to live to make another mistake, 448 00:35:27,203 --> 00:35:30,003 and therefore, you have to be absolutely careful. 449 00:35:30,003 --> 00:35:32,043 If he got caught, he would've been tortured 450 00:35:32,043 --> 00:35:34,443 for as long as they could have tortured him for, 451 00:35:34,443 --> 00:35:38,723 and then killed in a very, very painful and extreme way. 452 00:35:41,963 --> 00:35:44,403 We're looking at a rucksack-sized device, you know, 453 00:35:44,403 --> 00:35:45,923 maybe a couple of kilos. 454 00:35:45,923 --> 00:35:49,003 Now, in the confines of an underground train, 455 00:35:49,003 --> 00:35:53,483 we're talking five or six people may be killed by the explosion. 456 00:35:54,963 --> 00:35:57,043 But hundreds killed by the panic. 457 00:35:58,563 --> 00:36:01,003 If you've got a thousand people on a Tube train 458 00:36:01,003 --> 00:36:05,043 and everybody's trying to get out at the same time, at the full sprint, 459 00:36:05,043 --> 00:36:07,923 one can imagine how horrific that would be. 460 00:36:16,363 --> 00:36:17,963 Aimen was lucky. 461 00:36:17,963 --> 00:36:21,643 He didn't blow his cover, and managed to get the information out 462 00:36:21,643 --> 00:36:24,443 in a timely way that allowed the attack to be intercepted. 463 00:36:25,963 --> 00:36:29,163 The role of double agents, the role of people like Aimen, 464 00:36:29,163 --> 00:36:31,443 was fundamental. 465 00:36:31,443 --> 00:36:37,043 Without people who are prepared to do the most dangerous things, 466 00:36:37,043 --> 00:36:39,323 and take the most heinous risks, 467 00:36:39,323 --> 00:36:44,163 we would be a lot less safe in our beds here in the UK. 468 00:37:16,483 --> 00:37:19,603 When Philby was posted to Washington, 469 00:37:19,603 --> 00:37:22,763 it expanded his access dramatically. 470 00:37:22,763 --> 00:37:26,403 Cos it gives you access to the FBI and the CIA. 471 00:37:26,403 --> 00:37:30,283 He's a star British intelligence officer. 472 00:37:30,283 --> 00:37:32,123 He's at the height of his game. 473 00:37:32,123 --> 00:37:34,523 He's being groomed to be head of MI6. 474 00:37:34,523 --> 00:37:38,643 He's at the centre of this whole operation, 475 00:37:38,643 --> 00:37:41,803 whilst passing not only British intelligence, 476 00:37:41,803 --> 00:37:47,243 but intelligence which the Americans are sharing with us. 477 00:37:47,243 --> 00:37:50,563 That's also being sent to the Russians. 478 00:37:50,563 --> 00:37:54,203 He was obviously calculating, but he was also opportunistic. 479 00:37:54,203 --> 00:37:56,523 And I think that's to do with personality. 480 00:37:56,523 --> 00:37:59,923 That's just fundamentally about being able to charm 481 00:37:59,923 --> 00:38:02,523 and persuade people that you are the version of yourself 482 00:38:02,523 --> 00:38:04,563 that you want them to see. 483 00:38:18,123 --> 00:38:23,363 The Cambridge Five were in the Cabinet Office in Bletchley Park, 484 00:38:23,363 --> 00:38:27,163 in MI6, MI5, they had agents everywhere. 485 00:38:27,163 --> 00:38:29,043 It was so lax, the security, 486 00:38:29,043 --> 00:38:32,803 that they were able to just, with impunity, go in and out 487 00:38:32,803 --> 00:38:36,563 and remove literally thousands and thousands of documents. 488 00:38:36,563 --> 00:38:38,443 LYUBIMOV: These Magnificent Five, 489 00:38:38,443 --> 00:38:41,963 they're unique in the history of espionage. 490 00:38:41,963 --> 00:38:46,483 They supplied the information about all the talks in the Cabinet, 491 00:38:46,483 --> 00:38:48,363 all the Cabinet papers. 492 00:38:48,363 --> 00:38:51,203 So it was such an amount of information. 493 00:38:51,203 --> 00:38:54,843 CORERA: This was a cosy establishment club 494 00:38:54,843 --> 00:38:57,643 of people who were friends and knew each other, 495 00:38:57,643 --> 00:38:59,723 and who covered for each other. 496 00:39:01,723 --> 00:39:04,203 LOWNIE: There were suspicions about them. 497 00:39:04,203 --> 00:39:06,363 The problem was they were never really followed up. 498 00:39:06,363 --> 00:39:09,603 No-one wanted people to report on each other, 499 00:39:09,603 --> 00:39:12,803 because it was sort of like school. It was telling tales. 500 00:39:12,803 --> 00:39:15,563 So there were a lot of close calls. 501 00:39:19,043 --> 00:39:21,683 Very gradually, very slowly, 502 00:39:21,683 --> 00:39:26,323 Western code breakers start to make some inroads. 503 00:39:26,323 --> 00:39:31,243 Not very much, but enough to identify some of these agents. 504 00:39:36,043 --> 00:39:37,483 Suspicion starts to fall 505 00:39:37,483 --> 00:39:39,843 on the fact that there might be a spy in Washington. 506 00:39:39,843 --> 00:39:42,523 And they point to the fact that there'd been a spy 507 00:39:42,523 --> 00:39:44,723 in the British Embassy in Washington, 508 00:39:44,723 --> 00:39:47,403 and suspicion eventually falls on Donald Maclean, 509 00:39:47,403 --> 00:39:48,883 one of the Cambridge Five. 510 00:39:56,643 --> 00:39:59,203 They were worried, they were under surveillance, 511 00:39:59,203 --> 00:40:03,323 they were being bugged. And the escape plan was put into operation. 512 00:40:12,283 --> 00:40:14,803 It captured people's imagination. 513 00:40:14,803 --> 00:40:17,883 I mean, people love spy films, and this wilderness of mirrors, 514 00:40:17,883 --> 00:40:20,203 of trying to work out what's really going on. 515 00:40:20,203 --> 00:40:24,123 There was a real worry that we were on the point of another war. 516 00:40:24,123 --> 00:40:28,723 Now the cracks are beginning to appear, and for Philby, 517 00:40:28,723 --> 00:40:32,603 the attention turns to him as a possible third man. 518 00:40:32,603 --> 00:40:35,643 If there was a third man, were you, in fact, the third man? 519 00:40:35,643 --> 00:40:37,403 No, I was not. 520 00:40:37,403 --> 00:40:39,923 Do you think there was one? No comment. 521 00:40:39,923 --> 00:40:44,243 Why didn't he run? In the 1950s, he's accused. 522 00:40:44,243 --> 00:40:46,643 And he brasses it out. 523 00:40:46,643 --> 00:40:51,403 CHARLOTTE PHILBY: At that stage, there aren't many options open. 524 00:40:51,403 --> 00:40:56,243 He'd first become embroiled in this world aged 19 or 20. 525 00:40:56,243 --> 00:40:58,843 He was used to it. 526 00:40:58,843 --> 00:41:00,443 He knew no other way of being, 527 00:41:00,443 --> 00:41:03,283 other than living as two separate characters 528 00:41:03,283 --> 00:41:06,803 and having to do so with a great sense of conviction. 529 00:41:08,643 --> 00:41:12,563 CORERA: Kim Philby, I think, had a unique hardness of his character, 530 00:41:12,563 --> 00:41:16,363 an ability to deceive and maintain deception, 531 00:41:16,363 --> 00:41:19,323 in the way he was able to betray his colleagues. 532 00:41:26,163 --> 00:41:28,603 "Is he the third man?", they ask. 533 00:41:28,603 --> 00:41:31,203 There've been these questions in Parliament about him. 534 00:41:31,203 --> 00:41:35,283 And he just brazenly lies and denies it all. 535 00:41:35,283 --> 00:41:38,003 INTERVIEWER: The Foreign Secretary has said that, in the past, 536 00:41:38,003 --> 00:41:39,763 you had communist associations. 537 00:41:39,763 --> 00:41:41,723 Is that why you were asked to resign? 538 00:41:41,723 --> 00:41:45,923 I was asked to resign because of an imprudent association. 539 00:41:45,923 --> 00:41:48,763 That was your association with Burgess. Correct. 540 00:41:48,763 --> 00:41:51,323 What about these alleged communist associations? 541 00:41:51,323 --> 00:41:53,003 Can you say anything about that? 542 00:41:53,003 --> 00:41:55,243 The last time I spoke to a communist, 543 00:41:55,243 --> 00:42:00,603 knowing him to be a communist, was some time in 1934. 544 00:42:00,603 --> 00:42:03,723 The man is clearly lying. He's got a smirk on his face, 545 00:42:03,723 --> 00:42:07,963 you know, when he's denying it. I don't find it very convincing. 546 00:42:09,083 --> 00:42:13,683 Other members of MI6 just don't believe he could possibly be a spy. 547 00:42:13,683 --> 00:42:16,203 They almost don't want to confront the possibility 548 00:42:16,203 --> 00:42:18,243 that their friend, Kim Philby, 549 00:42:18,243 --> 00:42:21,003 a person many looked up to as the future of MI6, 550 00:42:21,003 --> 00:42:24,323 could possibly be a traitor. They just do not want to believe it. 551 00:42:26,243 --> 00:42:31,203 Of the Cambridge Five, Philby is the star. 552 00:42:31,203 --> 00:42:36,803 Perhaps Philby is the greatest spy of the 20th century. 553 00:43:18,603 --> 00:43:21,603 Anna Chapman is the glamorous daughter 554 00:43:21,603 --> 00:43:24,683 of a high-ranking intelligence officer 555 00:43:24,683 --> 00:43:27,683 who was sent to New York to glean secrets 556 00:43:27,683 --> 00:43:29,523 which she would then send back to Moscow. 557 00:43:29,523 --> 00:43:31,363 It sounds like something out of Ian Fleming 558 00:43:31,363 --> 00:43:32,643 because it basically was. 559 00:43:34,763 --> 00:43:37,243 The KGB have had two types of spies. 560 00:43:37,243 --> 00:43:40,803 They've had the legal ones that operate out of embassies, 561 00:43:40,803 --> 00:43:43,683 and then they've had what are known as the illegal spies. 562 00:43:43,683 --> 00:43:47,163 CORERA: An illegal doesn't have diplomatic immunity. 563 00:43:47,163 --> 00:43:51,323 They are pretending, for instance, to be a businessman or a book seller 564 00:43:51,323 --> 00:43:52,843 or something like that. 565 00:43:52,843 --> 00:43:56,523 And that means if they're arrested, they can go to jail. 566 00:43:57,603 --> 00:44:02,203 You pass them in the street, they look like your fellow citizens, 567 00:44:02,203 --> 00:44:03,563 but they're not. 568 00:44:10,523 --> 00:44:14,363 Anna Chapman comes over as a teenager to the UK 569 00:44:14,363 --> 00:44:17,323 and she falls in love and marries a young British man 570 00:44:17,323 --> 00:44:19,963 and gets a British passport. 571 00:44:19,963 --> 00:44:24,763 It's not clear exactly when she becomes an active agent. 572 00:44:26,283 --> 00:44:29,763 And at one point, she goes back to Russia and she comes back to the UK, 573 00:44:29,763 --> 00:44:32,363 and starts expressing an interest in going to America. 574 00:44:32,363 --> 00:44:35,163 And it does seem suspicious, as if it might have been an order 575 00:44:35,163 --> 00:44:37,003 from Russian intelligence. 576 00:44:49,243 --> 00:44:52,483 Now I know a lot of people introduce me to someone else, 577 00:44:52,483 --> 00:44:54,403 and those introduce me to someone else. 578 00:44:54,403 --> 00:44:58,323 So now I know where to go if I have something to solve. 579 00:44:59,763 --> 00:45:02,443 She has the ability of someone 580 00:45:02,443 --> 00:45:05,243 to engage with influencers in Washington, 581 00:45:05,243 --> 00:45:07,523 and to gain the ear of individuals. 582 00:45:08,963 --> 00:45:12,803 So there's often deception in different elements of spying. 583 00:45:12,803 --> 00:45:15,083 It's not necessarily about trying to steal secrets 584 00:45:15,083 --> 00:45:18,243 from people in government in the way that, for instance, Kim Philby did. 585 00:45:18,243 --> 00:45:20,523 It's about spotting people who are influential, 586 00:45:20,523 --> 00:45:22,643 who are on their way up, who know the gossip, 587 00:45:22,643 --> 00:45:23,923 who know the inside track. 588 00:45:23,923 --> 00:45:27,243 It's about reporting back on those people to Moscow. 589 00:45:32,003 --> 00:45:36,883 We do know that the US had sources within Russian intelligence 590 00:45:36,883 --> 00:45:40,083 who were able to tip off the United States 591 00:45:40,083 --> 00:45:45,083 about the presence of ten illegals living in the United States. 592 00:45:46,323 --> 00:45:51,763 So while she was doing her spying, they were watching her, 593 00:45:51,763 --> 00:45:54,163 they were surveilling her. 594 00:45:54,163 --> 00:45:57,923 The FBI and CIA decide to move towards arresting 595 00:45:57,923 --> 00:45:59,683 those Russian spies in America. 596 00:45:59,683 --> 00:46:02,883 They round up the illegals, including Anna Chapman. 597 00:46:04,283 --> 00:46:05,643 And so she was busted 598 00:46:05,643 --> 00:46:08,523 and repatriated back to Russia in a spy swap. 599 00:46:12,723 --> 00:46:16,403 IN RUSSIAN: 600 00:47:06,923 --> 00:47:09,283 I did what I did not to make money, 601 00:47:09,283 --> 00:47:14,243 but to help prevent the defeat of a new system. 602 00:47:14,243 --> 00:47:16,483 It came as an enormous surprise 603 00:47:16,483 --> 00:47:18,883 to the then-ministers in the government. 604 00:47:18,883 --> 00:47:23,683 They'd no idea that this individual had been identified 605 00:47:23,683 --> 00:47:26,763 as being a Soviet spy. 606 00:47:26,763 --> 00:47:31,923 I thought that perhaps some of what I had access to 607 00:47:31,923 --> 00:47:35,803 might be useful in helping Russia 608 00:47:35,803 --> 00:47:41,043 to keep abreast of Britain, America, and Germany. 609 00:47:41,043 --> 00:47:44,443 And it's a remarkable moment because people are asking questions. 610 00:47:44,443 --> 00:47:46,683 Well, firstly, "Why did she do it?" 611 00:47:46,683 --> 00:47:50,043 Secondly, "Why was she not caught?" 612 00:47:55,563 --> 00:47:59,843 Her mother had been recruited into Soviet intelligence, 613 00:47:59,843 --> 00:48:02,803 had been active in the 1920s as a spy. 614 00:48:02,803 --> 00:48:07,483 So in a way, Melita Norwood had been radicalised 615 00:48:07,483 --> 00:48:09,443 from a very, very early age. 616 00:48:10,883 --> 00:48:13,683 She was recruited in 1934, 617 00:48:13,683 --> 00:48:18,043 and, of course, then she was only 22 years of age. 618 00:48:26,563 --> 00:48:29,803 Her position is working as a secretary 619 00:48:29,803 --> 00:48:34,603 for a company engaged on Tube Alloys, on nuclear research. 620 00:48:37,483 --> 00:48:41,083 This is a top-secret project. It's the atomic bomb. 621 00:48:41,083 --> 00:48:44,403 Not even... You know, the Cabinet doesn't know about it. 622 00:48:44,403 --> 00:48:47,683 She's sitting in the back room taking notes, 623 00:48:47,683 --> 00:48:51,003 nobody really suspected her. 624 00:48:51,003 --> 00:48:56,043 Her lowly position means that she is often underestimated 625 00:48:56,043 --> 00:48:59,363 in the information she could collect. 626 00:48:59,363 --> 00:49:02,083 Actually, she's in a key position as the secretary 627 00:49:02,083 --> 00:49:05,363 who can see all the information and provide it to the Russians. 628 00:49:05,363 --> 00:49:10,563 NEWSREEL: Melita Norwood, now 87 years old, great grandmother. 629 00:49:10,563 --> 00:49:13,883 Yet it is claimed she was the most important British female agent 630 00:49:13,883 --> 00:49:15,803 ever recruited by the KGB. 631 00:49:15,803 --> 00:49:20,083 In 1999, I telephone her and she said, 632 00:49:20,083 --> 00:49:23,083 "Oh! I've been a very, very naughty girl. 633 00:49:23,083 --> 00:49:27,923 "I'm afraid I've got the world's press camped in my front garden 634 00:49:27,923 --> 00:49:30,323 "wanting to interview me about my past." 635 00:49:30,323 --> 00:49:32,763 Which seems to have been a bit colourful. 636 00:49:33,923 --> 00:49:36,283 When it emerged that she had been a spy, 637 00:49:36,283 --> 00:49:38,883 there was this question about what to do about it. 638 00:49:38,883 --> 00:49:42,123 And I think in MI5, they clearly thought, 639 00:49:42,123 --> 00:49:45,163 "Well, she's old, she's not active any more, 640 00:49:45,163 --> 00:49:48,563 "there's no risk," so nothing is done. 641 00:49:52,323 --> 00:49:57,083 The Soviet Union, the KGB, were masters of using illegals. 642 00:49:57,083 --> 00:50:00,563 They really hold up these spies as, if you like, the pinnacle of spying. 643 00:50:00,563 --> 00:50:03,963 Those people who are able and willing to go under deep cover 644 00:50:03,963 --> 00:50:07,603 into the west or other countries, potentially for decades. 645 00:50:09,603 --> 00:50:12,363 It is the undercover spy, that sleeper, 646 00:50:12,363 --> 00:50:18,563 who the Soviets were very, very good at putting in place, 647 00:50:18,563 --> 00:50:20,363 who were the most successful. 648 00:50:20,363 --> 00:50:25,483 And I wouldn't be surprised if they were still capable of doing it. 649 00:50:25,483 --> 00:50:27,723 And still do so. 650 00:50:43,083 --> 00:50:47,083 HARRY FERGUSON: I would say the most dangerous time is when your agent 651 00:50:47,083 --> 00:50:49,043 is trying to communicate their intelligence. 652 00:50:49,043 --> 00:50:52,283 They may be photographing a document or taking a sample. 653 00:50:52,283 --> 00:50:56,683 But the point where they have to communicate that intelligence to you 654 00:50:56,683 --> 00:51:00,523 as the officer, so that you can get it back, that's tricky 655 00:51:00,523 --> 00:51:02,123 because you might be being watched. 656 00:51:04,203 --> 00:51:06,763 If something goes wrong and that person is discovered, 657 00:51:06,763 --> 00:51:10,283 it is the agent, really, who's gonna face the consequences. 658 00:51:10,283 --> 00:51:13,963 What they often need to rely on is their own wit and imagination 659 00:51:13,963 --> 00:51:17,323 in order to deal with the threats that they face. 660 00:51:19,363 --> 00:51:22,403 If you're in a very hostile environment and your cover is blown, 661 00:51:22,403 --> 00:51:24,123 you get out as quickly as possible 662 00:51:24,123 --> 00:51:26,163 and you will have an exfiltration plan, 663 00:51:26,163 --> 00:51:28,523 which has been worked out before the operation. 664 00:51:28,523 --> 00:51:32,523 It might be as simple as jump in your car, drive to the border, 665 00:51:32,523 --> 00:51:34,403 just head straight over it. 666 00:51:35,963 --> 00:51:39,243 INGRAM: You'll have rehearsed it on tabletops and all the rest of it, 667 00:51:39,243 --> 00:51:41,803 just to go through all of the different stages. 668 00:51:41,803 --> 00:51:44,883 It happens with all of the high-grade agents that are there 669 00:51:44,883 --> 00:51:48,043 that may be in a position where you need to extract them. 670 00:52:15,603 --> 00:52:20,723 AIMEN: I received a text message form an Al-Qaeda associate of mine. 671 00:52:20,723 --> 00:52:25,003 He was telling me, you know, "Go to the Times Magazine website." 672 00:52:25,003 --> 00:52:28,483 It says, "Human intelligence source uncover a plot 673 00:52:28,483 --> 00:52:33,483 "to attack a New York subway using chemical weapons." 674 00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:35,763 And I realised, basically, that I was the source. 675 00:52:40,683 --> 00:52:44,323 Aimen was, luckily, out of Afghanistan, 676 00:52:44,323 --> 00:52:47,363 and out of Al-Qaeda's immediate control. 677 00:52:49,243 --> 00:52:53,443 He was named in an article that got published. 678 00:52:54,963 --> 00:52:59,723 It contained leaked intelligence from the CIA 679 00:52:59,723 --> 00:53:01,963 and stupidly, they used my first real name. 680 00:53:05,003 --> 00:53:06,963 There were clear suspicions in Al-Qaeda, 681 00:53:06,963 --> 00:53:10,043 so they knew there was a mole there somewhere. 682 00:53:10,043 --> 00:53:11,763 A group like Al-Qaeda is aware 683 00:53:11,763 --> 00:53:14,243 of the danger of infiltrators in its ranks. 684 00:53:14,243 --> 00:53:16,323 And if Aimen Dean had been discovered, 685 00:53:16,323 --> 00:53:18,163 he'd have almost certainly been killed. 686 00:53:18,163 --> 00:53:20,403 There will have been contingency plans put in place 687 00:53:20,403 --> 00:53:22,963 that he will have known very little about, 688 00:53:22,963 --> 00:53:25,563 but they'll have all been worked out beforehand 689 00:53:25,563 --> 00:53:28,323 as to how to potentially get him out of there. 690 00:53:32,203 --> 00:53:35,283 I immediately called my handlers back in London, 691 00:53:35,283 --> 00:53:38,243 even though it was Sunday, and I was told basically that, 692 00:53:38,243 --> 00:53:40,923 "Sorry to tell you, but your spying days are over." 693 00:53:48,843 --> 00:53:51,923 When you're sharing intelligence, the intelligence comes out, 694 00:53:51,923 --> 00:53:54,763 you've got no indication as to who the individual is, 695 00:53:54,763 --> 00:53:57,443 or the individuals are that's supplying that intelligence. 696 00:53:57,443 --> 00:53:59,403 National agencies, when they get jealous, 697 00:53:59,403 --> 00:54:02,003 will task some of their team to find out who it is. 698 00:54:02,003 --> 00:54:06,523 And I think that's how Aimen's name then got into discussion. 699 00:54:06,523 --> 00:54:10,283 And it's very dangerous, and that's almost certainly what happened here. 700 00:54:15,763 --> 00:54:19,243 Given the fact that I caused the death of at least one or two 701 00:54:19,243 --> 00:54:23,723 of their senior leaders in Saudi Arabia, I would say yes, 702 00:54:23,723 --> 00:54:27,523 they are angry, enough to try to kill me twice. 703 00:54:28,563 --> 00:54:32,843 Betraying them is an act of honour, not an act of dishonour. 704 00:55:15,523 --> 00:55:18,123 CORERA: The evidence is strong enough that MI6 705 00:55:18,123 --> 00:55:20,443 can no longer really resist 706 00:55:20,443 --> 00:55:22,723 the thing that they've been trying to deny for so long, 707 00:55:22,723 --> 00:55:26,563 that this man who'd worked at the very heart of MI6 708 00:55:26,563 --> 00:55:27,923 is actually a spy. 709 00:55:29,923 --> 00:55:32,683 And one of Philby's friends, Nicholas Elliott, 710 00:55:32,683 --> 00:55:36,203 is sent out to Beirut, where Philby is living, to confront him. 711 00:55:36,203 --> 00:55:39,603 WEST: Nicholas Elliott said that when he knocked on the door, 712 00:55:39,603 --> 00:55:43,563 Philby had said the equivalent of, "What took you so long?" 713 00:55:43,563 --> 00:55:46,683 He was offered an immunity from prosecution 714 00:55:46,683 --> 00:55:50,723 by the Attorney General, which he accepted. 715 00:55:50,723 --> 00:55:52,523 And he then made a confession. 716 00:55:54,363 --> 00:55:55,723 It does look like Philby 717 00:55:55,723 --> 00:55:58,643 still manages to pull the wool over his friend's eyes 718 00:55:58,643 --> 00:56:01,083 and convinces him that he's willing to talk 719 00:56:01,083 --> 00:56:04,403 and that perhaps there's some kind of deal to be done. 720 00:56:04,403 --> 00:56:08,483 But a few days after having handed that confession, 721 00:56:08,483 --> 00:56:10,483 he simply disappeared. 722 00:56:24,283 --> 00:56:29,283 QUESTIONER: Do you think MI6 wanted Philby to escape from Beirut? 723 00:56:29,283 --> 00:56:32,083 No, I don't think so, 724 00:56:32,083 --> 00:56:36,843 because they wanted him to collaborate with them again. 725 00:56:38,403 --> 00:56:43,963 And therefore, we decided to take him away from Beirut by boat. 726 00:56:45,283 --> 00:56:49,923 He collected his things, he didn't say goodbye to his wife. 727 00:56:55,283 --> 00:56:57,523 CHARLOTTE: I've spent a lot of time trying to imagine 728 00:56:57,523 --> 00:57:01,083 how he must have felt boarding that freight liner in Beirut 729 00:57:01,083 --> 00:57:04,483 to Moscow, knowing that he could never come back. 730 00:57:04,483 --> 00:57:06,963 Knowing that his children and his friends and everyone 731 00:57:06,963 --> 00:57:08,403 would soon know the truth. 732 00:57:20,683 --> 00:57:24,443 He was reserving a whole part of himself and his life 733 00:57:24,443 --> 00:57:27,803 and keeping that secret from his wife and his children. 734 00:57:27,803 --> 00:57:33,243 And the mental impact that must have, I just think is huge. 735 00:57:35,123 --> 00:57:37,723 Can you imagine waking up every morning and... 736 00:57:37,723 --> 00:57:40,443 and just having that moment of worrying 737 00:57:40,443 --> 00:57:42,843 that you might have said something 738 00:57:42,843 --> 00:57:45,443 that would give you away as a traitor? 739 00:58:05,723 --> 00:58:08,243 Deception has always been at the heart of spying 740 00:58:08,243 --> 00:58:12,043 because spies work by hiding who they really are. 741 00:58:13,523 --> 00:58:16,643 Is it intelligence? Is it covert action? 742 00:58:16,643 --> 00:58:18,483 It's a little bit of all those things, 743 00:58:18,483 --> 00:58:24,123 which is why deception is such a challenging area of spy artistry. 744 00:58:26,363 --> 00:58:29,523 If you think of the stakes, you'll tighten up. 745 00:58:29,523 --> 00:58:33,643 You've got to act naturally, while at the same time, 746 00:58:33,643 --> 00:58:36,443 doing one of the most unnatural things in the world. 747 00:58:38,323 --> 00:58:42,963 The profession exists to intrude covertly into other people's lives, 748 00:58:42,963 --> 00:58:44,923 to collect information about them, 749 00:58:44,923 --> 00:58:49,083 to understand the risk that that person might pose. 750 00:58:51,643 --> 00:58:55,203 This is a crucial part of the job which has remained unchanged. 751 00:59:03,323 --> 00:59:07,843 Assassination is something that any service could do, 752 00:59:07,843 --> 00:59:09,763 but doesn't necessarily have to do. 753 00:59:09,763 --> 00:59:12,323 There was enough Novichok there 754 00:59:12,323 --> 00:59:15,483 to kill tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people. 755 00:59:15,483 --> 00:59:19,923 Putin and Litvinenko themselves are personal enemies. 756 00:59:19,923 --> 00:59:21,963 The order is kill Litvinenko. 757 00:59:21,963 --> 00:59:24,003 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 62193

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