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You look like my other babies. 13 00:00:56,515 --> 00:00:58,517 Yeah, you have teeth. 14 00:00:58,517 --> 00:01:00,060 Good baby. 15 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:02,646 So, somehow they’re making their way in here, 16 00:01:02,646 --> 00:01:06,024 and they’re having their litters or they’re being dropped off. 17 00:01:06,024 --> 00:01:08,610 We used to take them home, but we can’t take them all home. 18 00:01:08,610 --> 00:01:10,320 -That’s the problem. -I know. 19 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:11,863 (meowing) 20 00:01:11,863 --> 00:01:14,491 (forklift beeping) 21 00:01:14,491 --> 00:01:15,826 (meowing) 22 00:01:15,826 --> 00:01:18,578 (thudding) 23 00:01:18,578 --> 00:01:20,580 (engine starting) 24 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:30,507 ♪ 25 00:01:37,514 --> 00:01:39,016 (cat cooing) 26 00:01:39,016 --> 00:01:48,859 ♪ 27 00:01:48,859 --> 00:01:51,361 (birds chirping) 28 00:01:51,361 --> 00:01:55,532 ♪ 29 00:01:55,532 --> 00:01:57,451 (whirring) 30 00:01:59,244 --> 00:02:01,955 It is a feline free for all in Cornwall, 31 00:02:01,955 --> 00:02:04,958 as feral cats have taken over neighborhoods. 32 00:02:04,958 --> 00:02:08,253 They may be cuddly and cute, but in Cornwall feral cats 33 00:02:08,253 --> 00:02:10,797 have become a big problem. 34 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:12,424 They’re breeding and feeding, 35 00:02:12,424 --> 00:02:14,051 and they’re using the whole street 36 00:02:14,051 --> 00:02:15,969 as a litter box. 37 00:02:15,969 --> 00:02:17,971 Some residents are embracing the cats, 38 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:20,515 leaving food around. 39 00:02:20,515 --> 00:02:22,642 Well, getting everyone to agree on a solution 40 00:02:22,642 --> 00:02:24,978 is much like herding cats. 41 00:02:24,978 --> 00:02:27,689 Residents and volunteers alike just want the city 42 00:02:27,689 --> 00:02:29,900 to stop pussyfooting around. 43 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:31,985 It’s a catastrophe. 44 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:38,033 ♪ 45 00:02:38,033 --> 00:02:40,994 The city of Cornwall dropped the ball many years ago. 46 00:02:40,994 --> 00:02:43,205 There should have been money into the budget every year. 47 00:02:43,205 --> 00:02:45,957 We wouldn’t be in this predicament now. 48 00:02:45,957 --> 00:02:48,543 We wouldn’t be. 49 00:02:48,543 --> 00:02:51,463 I am Mary Jane Proulx from Cornwall, Ontario. 50 00:02:51,463 --> 00:02:54,299 Lived here all my life. 51 00:02:54,299 --> 00:02:55,926 Growing up I had rabbits and guinea pigs, 52 00:02:55,926 --> 00:02:58,261 and all kinds of animals. 53 00:02:58,261 --> 00:03:00,097 I remember trying to save little birds 54 00:03:00,097 --> 00:03:02,182 whenever I was, like, 8 years old. 55 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:03,683 No, they all died, 56 00:03:03,683 --> 00:03:06,520 but at least I tried to save them. 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,772 I do the right thing, and I expect everybody else 58 00:03:08,772 --> 00:03:10,524 to do the right thing and I get very, very mad 59 00:03:10,524 --> 00:03:12,818 when people don’t do the right thing. 60 00:03:12,818 --> 00:03:16,488 I want to slap people sometimes, but I don’t. 61 00:03:16,488 --> 00:03:19,783 I love cats, and I don’t want cats to be poisoned, 62 00:03:19,783 --> 00:03:21,743 or to be, you know, shot or trapped, 63 00:03:21,743 --> 00:03:23,954 and whatever done to it. 64 00:03:23,954 --> 00:03:27,791 It’s not their fault why they’re out there right now. 65 00:03:27,791 --> 00:03:30,502 Something has to be done. 66 00:03:30,502 --> 00:03:32,337 So, I started my own organization 67 00:03:32,337 --> 00:03:34,131 called Cat Trap, 68 00:03:34,131 --> 00:03:36,633 and we believe in the program TNR, 69 00:03:36,633 --> 00:03:38,301 trap, neuter, and return. 70 00:03:38,301 --> 00:03:40,637 After we bring them to the vet, we put them back out 71 00:03:40,637 --> 00:03:42,931 where we got them from, into the colonies. 72 00:03:42,931 --> 00:03:45,392 Because they’re all together, they’re all like family. 73 00:03:45,392 --> 00:03:47,352 ♪ 74 00:03:47,352 --> 00:03:51,606 I think the first time we did any trapping was like 15 cats. 75 00:03:51,606 --> 00:03:53,692 That was, like, wow, it was quite amazing, 76 00:03:53,692 --> 00:03:56,278 and then it just snowballed after that. 77 00:03:56,278 --> 00:03:57,863 I wanna help people. 78 00:03:57,863 --> 00:03:59,698 So, my name is out there. 79 00:03:59,698 --> 00:04:02,742 I like to knock on doors, I like to talk to people. 80 00:04:02,742 --> 00:04:05,954 Well, I mean, I have a nice piece of property here, 81 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:07,539 and I got cats pooping all over it. 82 00:04:07,539 --> 00:04:10,292 I got a cute little dog, likes to roll in it, 83 00:04:10,292 --> 00:04:11,960 and I don’t think it’s right. 84 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,504 I pay high taxes, and I expect some stuff cleaned up, 85 00:04:14,504 --> 00:04:15,922 and they’re not doing it. 86 00:04:15,922 --> 00:04:18,717 I called the city and said, "What are you gonna do with these cats?" 87 00:04:18,717 --> 00:04:20,302 They turned around, told me they have a bylaw for dogs 88 00:04:20,302 --> 00:04:21,553 but not for cats. 89 00:04:21,553 --> 00:04:23,722 I told them, "Bullshit," and hung up. 90 00:04:23,722 --> 00:04:26,349 We found ’em dead on the lawn right there, 91 00:04:26,349 --> 00:04:27,976 some babies and that. 92 00:04:27,976 --> 00:04:30,937 We found some babies over there on the track line. 93 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:34,232 He’s found some dead ones on his property over there. 94 00:04:34,232 --> 00:04:37,778 It’s too bad, you know, just cats all over. 95 00:04:37,778 --> 00:04:39,446 It’s frustrating. 96 00:04:39,446 --> 00:04:41,031 I’ve dealt with neighbors fighting with each other. 97 00:04:41,031 --> 00:04:42,866 That’s not good, you don’t wanna fight with your neighbor 98 00:04:42,866 --> 00:04:44,409 over something like that. 99 00:04:44,409 --> 00:04:46,995 It’s not the cats’ fault, it’s our fault. 100 00:04:46,995 --> 00:04:48,914 Let’s take responsibility now. 101 00:04:48,914 --> 00:04:51,625 ♪ 102 00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:54,419 That’s okay. 103 00:04:54,419 --> 00:04:57,464 Hear that noise, it’s okay, you’re okay. 104 00:04:57,464 --> 00:05:00,008 So, Mellissa, she’s awesome, I call her my other daughter. 105 00:05:00,008 --> 00:05:02,177 I do. 106 00:05:02,177 --> 00:05:04,429 She’s a hard, hard worker. 107 00:05:04,429 --> 00:05:07,516 She’s doing her rescue all on her own. 108 00:05:07,516 --> 00:05:09,434 Plus, she works. 109 00:05:09,434 --> 00:05:11,895 She just loves animals, it’s just DNA. 110 00:05:11,895 --> 00:05:13,313 Yeah. 111 00:05:13,313 --> 00:05:15,315 We don’t want fleas on your face. 112 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:17,567 (water streaming) 113 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:20,362 I’ve rescued several litters from the dump, 114 00:05:20,362 --> 00:05:22,656 and they call me, "Can you come pick up these kittens?" 115 00:05:22,656 --> 00:05:24,157 Or, "Can I bring them to you?" 116 00:05:24,157 --> 00:05:26,326 ♪ 117 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:29,538 My name’s Mellissa, I run Tiny But Mighty Kitten Rescue, 118 00:05:29,538 --> 00:05:32,749 and I save kittens. 119 00:05:32,749 --> 00:05:35,752 Cats specifically, I mean, at least in Cornwall, 120 00:05:35,752 --> 00:05:37,546 the city doesn’t fund to help them, 121 00:05:37,546 --> 00:05:40,799 and a lot of people find that the cats are disposable. 122 00:05:40,799 --> 00:05:43,093 Kitten gets old, not as cute, 123 00:05:43,093 --> 00:05:45,178 put them outside, they’re not fixed. 124 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:47,639 What do you think happens? 125 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:50,392 I get a lot of messages, a minimum of 5 per day of, 126 00:05:50,392 --> 00:05:52,060 "Can you take this kitten I found?" 127 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:53,895 So, if I have space, I can take them. 128 00:05:53,895 --> 00:05:55,981 First, get them spayed, neutered, vaccinated, 129 00:05:55,981 --> 00:05:57,524 dewormed, microchipped, 130 00:05:57,524 --> 00:05:59,359 and then I find families for them. 131 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:01,194 ♪ 132 00:06:01,194 --> 00:06:03,822 I don’t have a clue how many litters I’ve saved. 133 00:06:03,822 --> 00:06:06,283 I lost track. 134 00:06:06,283 --> 00:06:09,494 (meowing) 135 00:06:09,494 --> 00:06:13,164 ♪ 136 00:06:13,164 --> 00:06:15,333 (flags flapping) 137 00:06:19,254 --> 00:06:20,922 ♪ 138 00:06:20,922 --> 00:06:22,799 There has always been a large number of cats 139 00:06:22,799 --> 00:06:24,426 in this area, and it’s primarily due to 140 00:06:24,426 --> 00:06:26,970 the lack of spaying and neutering. 141 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:29,014 My name’s Bonnie Bishop, and I’m an associate director 142 00:06:29,014 --> 00:06:31,057 with the Ontario SPCA. 143 00:06:31,057 --> 00:06:33,268 ♪ 144 00:06:33,268 --> 00:06:35,437 We call ourselves here an animal shelter, 145 00:06:35,437 --> 00:06:38,356 and we have 12 of them across the province of Ontario. 146 00:06:38,356 --> 00:06:40,734 ♪ 147 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:43,445 (indistinct remarks) 148 00:06:43,445 --> 00:06:46,323 In this community, for example, we have been inundated 149 00:06:46,323 --> 00:06:49,117 with a large number of cats for many years. 150 00:06:49,117 --> 00:06:51,911 We represent 30 percent of the intake of cats 151 00:06:51,911 --> 00:06:53,455 in the province of Ontario. 152 00:06:53,455 --> 00:06:56,207 (dogs barking) 153 00:06:56,207 --> 00:06:58,918 We have limited cage space here, and we’ve had days where people 154 00:06:58,918 --> 00:07:01,421 have shown up with up to as many as 20 cats, 155 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:03,173 and think that we can take those animals in 156 00:07:03,173 --> 00:07:04,799 on that given day. 157 00:07:04,799 --> 00:07:07,844 Here in Cornwall, there’s no program currently 158 00:07:07,844 --> 00:07:09,888 that the city runs to pick up stray cats, 159 00:07:09,888 --> 00:07:11,514 so the public literally picks them up 160 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:14,517 and brings them in to us. 161 00:07:14,517 --> 00:07:16,186 We talk to a lot of people that come in, 162 00:07:16,186 --> 00:07:19,272 and when we had a waitlist, say, "Ah, just gonna go dump it somewhere. " 163 00:07:19,272 --> 00:07:22,233 Not acceptable, it’s not acceptable to dump an animal. 164 00:07:22,233 --> 00:07:24,569 Those animals, they become prey for something else. 165 00:07:24,569 --> 00:07:26,655 And also, they are now being forced to hunt 166 00:07:26,655 --> 00:07:28,948 and fend for themselves in a way that they’ve never 167 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:31,242 had to do before. 168 00:07:31,242 --> 00:07:33,161 No, I believe cats should be indoors. 169 00:07:33,161 --> 00:07:35,455 (meowing) 170 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:38,375 (purring) 171 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:44,839 ♪ 172 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:47,926 The domestic cats that we have in our homes, 173 00:07:47,926 --> 00:07:50,512 we see them in our house as being this loveable, 174 00:07:50,512 --> 00:07:54,307 adorable creature, and then we put them outside. 175 00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:56,476 They engage in very similar behaviors 176 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:59,479 to what wild cats would do. 177 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:02,148 -I keep getting this cat. -Yeah. 178 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:04,150 That’s a new one. 179 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:05,652 My name is Elizabeth Gow, 180 00:08:05,652 --> 00:08:09,698 and I study what cats do when we can’t find them, 181 00:08:09,698 --> 00:08:11,991 and I do that using a variety 182 00:08:11,991 --> 00:08:14,703 of different specialized cameras. 183 00:08:14,703 --> 00:08:17,497 (photos snapping) 184 00:08:17,497 --> 00:08:26,256 ♪ 185 00:08:26,256 --> 00:08:28,508 They can get up to all kinds of mayhem. 186 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:30,468 They can cross busy roads. 187 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:33,096 They can go into sewer drains, 188 00:08:33,096 --> 00:08:35,390 climb trees, stalk, 189 00:08:35,390 --> 00:08:37,642 kill animals. 190 00:08:37,642 --> 00:08:40,395 And so, on one of the concerns with cats is their impacts 191 00:08:40,395 --> 00:08:42,230 on biodiversity. 192 00:08:42,230 --> 00:08:45,692 They are not from here, and when they’re outside, 193 00:08:45,692 --> 00:08:48,945 they are technically an invasive species. 194 00:08:48,945 --> 00:08:50,864 They engage in very similar behaviors 195 00:08:50,864 --> 00:08:52,490 to what wild cats would do. 196 00:08:52,490 --> 00:08:54,993 So, they will hunt animals when they find them. 197 00:08:54,993 --> 00:08:56,995 (cat snarling) 198 00:08:56,995 --> 00:08:58,913 (bird crying) 199 00:08:58,913 --> 00:09:02,417 (snarling) 200 00:09:02,417 --> 00:09:11,134 ♪ 201 00:09:11,134 --> 00:09:14,220 (rustling) 202 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:16,055 It’s a golden crowned kinglet. 203 00:09:16,055 --> 00:09:18,558 This tiny little one here. 204 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:20,310 ♪ 205 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:21,603 So, and here is a little warbler, 206 00:09:21,603 --> 00:09:22,979 the northern perulla. 207 00:09:22,979 --> 00:09:25,690 It’s got a little golden chest here. 208 00:09:25,690 --> 00:09:27,817 Well, cats will eat just about any bird 209 00:09:27,817 --> 00:09:30,862 they can get near. 210 00:09:30,862 --> 00:09:33,031 Brown creeper, 211 00:09:33,031 --> 00:09:35,617 so named ’cause it goes up the tree trunk. 212 00:09:35,617 --> 00:09:37,202 A woodpecker. 213 00:09:37,202 --> 00:09:39,913 In Canada alone, about 250 million, 214 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:43,625 250 million birds are killed every year 215 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:45,251 by domestic cats. 216 00:09:45,251 --> 00:09:53,009 ♪ 217 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:55,595 I’m Bridget Stutchbury, my specialty is studying 218 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:57,639 migratory songbirds to understand 219 00:09:57,639 --> 00:09:59,224 why their populations are declining 220 00:09:59,224 --> 00:10:01,017 and what we can do to help them. 221 00:10:01,017 --> 00:10:03,102 (birds chirping) 222 00:10:03,102 --> 00:10:05,396 Birds are what I call blue collar workers. 223 00:10:05,396 --> 00:10:07,440 They move seeds around, 224 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,568 they eat insects, and if they weren’t eating the insects, 225 00:10:10,568 --> 00:10:13,279 the insects’ populations are gonna explode 226 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:15,031 and damage the trees. 227 00:10:15,031 --> 00:10:17,659 And, so, when you take, like, a really important player 228 00:10:17,659 --> 00:10:21,120 in an ecosystem, and just take it out altogether, 229 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,623 then things are going to change in that ecosystem. 230 00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:25,291 The forest won’t be as healthy, 231 00:10:25,291 --> 00:10:27,168 the air won’t be as clean. 232 00:10:27,168 --> 00:10:30,088 You can have this huge cascading effect. 233 00:10:30,088 --> 00:10:31,673 (thudding) 234 00:10:31,673 --> 00:10:34,008 (bird chirping) 235 00:10:34,008 --> 00:10:37,136 Well, it’s not simply a matter of there being no birds. 236 00:10:37,136 --> 00:10:40,265 Cats certainly hunt native small mammal species. 237 00:10:40,265 --> 00:10:43,852 So, these are native mice, chipmunks, small rodents, 238 00:10:43,852 --> 00:10:46,688 rabbits, all kinds of small animals. 239 00:10:46,688 --> 00:10:49,482 They also can transmit diseases. 240 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:51,568 One is feline leukemia virus. 241 00:10:51,568 --> 00:10:53,570 So, they might be able to transfer into 242 00:10:53,570 --> 00:10:55,238 wild cat populations. 243 00:10:55,238 --> 00:10:58,533 These are cougars, and bobcats, and lynx. 244 00:10:58,533 --> 00:11:00,451 But, I don’t think that people are really paying attention 245 00:11:00,451 --> 00:11:01,786 to the problem. 246 00:11:01,786 --> 00:11:04,831 The impacts of cats are really, really massive. 247 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:06,666 We need to not be losing species 248 00:11:06,666 --> 00:11:08,710 to maintain our own health as humans. 249 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:10,837 ♪ 250 00:11:10,837 --> 00:11:15,300 I am part of the Canadian task force. 251 00:11:15,300 --> 00:11:17,468 We’re trying to find the best solutions 252 00:11:17,468 --> 00:11:20,972 to solve this cat problem that we have. 253 00:11:20,972 --> 00:11:24,058 The first step in any sort of management undertaking 254 00:11:24,058 --> 00:11:26,227 is to know, well, where is the problem? 255 00:11:26,227 --> 00:11:28,104 ♪ 256 00:11:28,104 --> 00:11:30,231 There’s typically more cats in areas 257 00:11:30,231 --> 00:11:32,317 where there’s more poverty. 258 00:11:32,317 --> 00:11:34,360 People don’t tend to spay and neuter their cats 259 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,987 when they can’t afford it. 260 00:11:35,987 --> 00:11:39,198 And also are more likely to put their cats outside. 261 00:11:39,198 --> 00:11:40,950 And if you think of a cat produces anywhere from 262 00:11:40,950 --> 00:11:43,536 2 to upwards of 18 offspring, 263 00:11:43,536 --> 00:11:45,872 that’s a lot of cats and kittens. 264 00:11:45,872 --> 00:11:48,082 (meowing) 265 00:11:48,082 --> 00:11:54,047 ♪ 266 00:11:54,047 --> 00:11:56,007 (meowing) 267 00:11:56,007 --> 00:11:58,885 ♪ 268 00:11:58,885 --> 00:12:00,553 (beeping) 269 00:12:00,553 --> 00:12:02,639 ♪ 270 00:12:02,639 --> 00:12:04,432 (beeping) 271 00:12:04,432 --> 00:12:06,017 (meowing) 272 00:12:06,017 --> 00:12:07,852 ♪ 273 00:12:07,852 --> 00:12:10,271 (whirring) 274 00:12:13,691 --> 00:12:16,110 (water streaming) 275 00:12:18,863 --> 00:12:20,740 (clinking) 276 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:23,368 (whirring) 277 00:12:23,368 --> 00:12:25,870 ♪ 278 00:12:25,870 --> 00:12:27,622 (meowing) 279 00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:30,083 ♪ 280 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:33,795 I actually learned by watching videos online, 281 00:12:33,795 --> 00:12:35,254 for the most part. 282 00:12:35,254 --> 00:12:37,966 I had my vet train me in certain things. 283 00:12:37,966 --> 00:12:41,010 Besides that, though, I learned it all online. 284 00:12:41,010 --> 00:12:42,512 ♪ 285 00:12:42,512 --> 00:12:43,930 (meowing) 286 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:45,974 You ready, babe? 287 00:12:45,974 --> 00:12:48,518 Here you go, love, here, no. 288 00:12:48,518 --> 00:12:53,940 ♪ 289 00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:56,693 These guys were orphaned at 2 weeks old. 290 00:12:56,693 --> 00:12:58,861 (slurping) 291 00:12:58,861 --> 00:13:01,197 They were actually in decent shape, 292 00:13:01,197 --> 00:13:05,284 but usually they don’t come in great shape when I get them. 293 00:13:05,284 --> 00:13:06,703 (purring) 294 00:13:06,703 --> 00:13:07,912 Are you purring? 295 00:13:07,912 --> 00:13:10,456 Good boy. 296 00:13:10,456 --> 00:13:12,875 She’s Maisie, the only girl. 297 00:13:12,875 --> 00:13:15,128 There’s Flynn. 298 00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:18,548 Nicky, and the big one, Logan. 299 00:13:18,548 --> 00:13:21,801 And Jackson. 300 00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:23,094 Is that you? 301 00:13:23,094 --> 00:13:24,554 (kissing) 302 00:13:24,554 --> 00:13:27,265 Crazy boy. 303 00:13:27,265 --> 00:13:28,850 (zipping) 304 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:30,601 Who’s next? 305 00:13:30,601 --> 00:13:32,520 I only need one kid. 306 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,356 Oh, one kid. 307 00:13:35,356 --> 00:13:36,816 Watch out. 308 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:38,776 Oh. 309 00:13:38,776 --> 00:13:40,236 I mean, it’s nonstop. 310 00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:42,363 I bottle feed every four hours right now, 311 00:13:42,363 --> 00:13:43,948 so it’s never ending. 312 00:13:43,948 --> 00:13:45,616 Literally never ending. 313 00:13:45,616 --> 00:13:48,202 And I even do this while I am supposed to be working. 314 00:13:48,202 --> 00:13:49,871 Oh. 315 00:13:49,871 --> 00:13:51,789 I love it for the most part. 316 00:13:51,789 --> 00:13:53,624 Sometimes it’s stressful, like when they 317 00:13:53,624 --> 00:13:55,710 aspirate on their milk, 318 00:13:55,710 --> 00:13:59,047 or if there ’s a medical problem. 319 00:13:59,047 --> 00:14:00,256 But, when they’re healthy like this, 320 00:14:00,256 --> 00:14:02,216 it’s pretty easy. 321 00:14:02,216 --> 00:14:04,677 (purring) 322 00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:06,054 What do you want? 323 00:14:06,054 --> 00:14:07,680 You already ate. 324 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:10,767 ♪ 325 00:14:10,767 --> 00:14:13,227 When they leave, it’s, like, really heartbreaking, 326 00:14:13,227 --> 00:14:14,687 but ultimately, I guess, worth it 327 00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:16,647 because they find forever homes. 328 00:14:16,647 --> 00:14:18,691 ♪ 329 00:14:18,691 --> 00:14:21,319 You get attached, that’s for sure. 330 00:14:21,319 --> 00:14:23,863 Are you done? 331 00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:25,531 Geez, 332 00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:27,492 that was so much. 333 00:14:27,492 --> 00:14:29,577 Okay, you’re done. 334 00:14:29,577 --> 00:14:32,705 ♪ 335 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:35,208 (meowing) 336 00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:40,922 ♪ 337 00:14:40,922 --> 00:14:43,341 (purring) 338 00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:50,890 (birds chirping) 339 00:14:50,890 --> 00:15:00,733 ♪ 340 00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:13,704 Feral cats are certainly something 341 00:15:13,704 --> 00:15:15,957 myself as an ecologist are concerned about, 342 00:15:15,957 --> 00:15:20,253 because they will hunt many, many animals a day, 343 00:15:20,253 --> 00:15:21,879 because they have to eat them 344 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:25,174 much, much more than an owned cat. 345 00:15:25,174 --> 00:15:26,676 No, I don’t think there is sort of 346 00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:29,262 a one-size-fits-all solution to try to reduce 347 00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:32,890 the number of cats that are not owned that run wild, 348 00:15:32,890 --> 00:15:34,392 the stray and feral cats. 349 00:15:34,392 --> 00:15:36,435 There’s a few different strategies, 350 00:15:36,435 --> 00:15:39,355 one being euthanasia. 351 00:15:39,355 --> 00:15:41,566 Trap, neuter, release, or TNR, 352 00:15:41,566 --> 00:15:44,527 and that involves capturing cats and neutering them, 353 00:15:44,527 --> 00:15:46,737 so they can’t reproduce, vaccinating them, 354 00:15:46,737 --> 00:15:48,489 and then returning them. 355 00:15:48,489 --> 00:15:50,158 (purring) 356 00:15:50,158 --> 00:15:52,451 (birds chirping) 357 00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:54,453 A lot of people in Cornwall want to put them down, 358 00:15:54,453 --> 00:15:56,038 they want to euthanize. 359 00:15:56,038 --> 00:15:57,832 I don’t agree with that. 360 00:15:57,832 --> 00:16:00,751 (whirring) 361 00:16:00,751 --> 00:16:10,761 ♪ 362 00:16:10,761 --> 00:16:13,306 Even though there’s only two of us, it didn’t matter. 363 00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:14,932 We had signs, we walked in. 364 00:16:14,932 --> 00:16:16,642 We were sort of making a lot of noise, 365 00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:19,812 so then all of the media came out started to talk to us 366 00:16:19,812 --> 00:16:22,481 because we had our signs, and we had the kitten. 367 00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:24,066 They wanted to know, "Why are you here?" 368 00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:25,359 -You know? -And, "Why are you bringing 369 00:16:25,359 --> 00:16:27,111 -a kitten?" -Yeah, so we continued 370 00:16:27,111 --> 00:16:29,822 -every two weeks. -Yep. 371 00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:33,075 Whenever we did protest we had like 300 comments, 372 00:16:33,075 --> 00:16:35,953 250 probably against us. 373 00:16:35,953 --> 00:16:37,413 So, that means they’re not really thinking 374 00:16:37,413 --> 00:16:38,789 outside of the box. 375 00:16:38,789 --> 00:16:40,875 I want people to think outside the box. 376 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:45,922 ♪ 377 00:16:45,922 --> 00:16:48,549 Will they back down? Will they support us? 378 00:16:48,549 --> 00:16:49,967 Time will tell. 379 00:16:49,967 --> 00:16:51,844 But, if they don’t, if they say, "Oh, okay, no, 380 00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:54,096 we don’t have the money," whatever, we will continue 381 00:16:54,096 --> 00:16:55,473 what we have been doing. 382 00:16:55,473 --> 00:16:57,183 We are not gonna let this go 383 00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:59,352 until there is money in the budget. 384 00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:01,270 -Agree? I agree. -Agreed. 385 00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:02,730 Yeah. 386 00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:05,316 (whirring) 387 00:17:05,316 --> 00:17:07,443 There are some people in any community of course 388 00:17:07,443 --> 00:17:10,154 who would say, well, you know, hate to put it this way, 389 00:17:10,154 --> 00:17:12,073 but, "Shoot them. " 390 00:17:12,073 --> 00:17:14,116 We’ve moved beyond that, I’m sorry. 391 00:17:14,116 --> 00:17:16,786 My name is Christopher Rogers, I am the supervisor 392 00:17:16,786 --> 00:17:18,579 by-law enforcement for the city of Cornwall. 393 00:17:18,579 --> 00:17:20,539 ♪ 394 00:17:20,539 --> 00:17:22,333 It’s easy to assess that 395 00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:23,709 this is something unique to this community. 396 00:17:23,709 --> 00:17:25,086 It is not. 397 00:17:25,086 --> 00:17:27,338 The other municipalities have set up programs, 398 00:17:27,338 --> 00:17:29,215 usually subsidized programs, so let’s be real, 399 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:30,675 it’s about money. 400 00:17:30,675 --> 00:17:40,601 ♪ 401 00:17:42,186 --> 00:17:46,023 Calgary is celebrated as a prime example 402 00:17:46,023 --> 00:17:49,026 of what it takes to manage 403 00:17:49,026 --> 00:17:51,570 and stabilize cat populations. 404 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:53,698 They have ample resources. 405 00:17:53,698 --> 00:17:55,741 They’re a rich city. 406 00:17:55,741 --> 00:17:57,243 We are not Calgary. 407 00:17:57,243 --> 00:17:58,953 (whirring) 408 00:17:58,953 --> 00:18:03,082 Simply not a matter of helping to support TNR programs. 409 00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:05,584 It comes down to, I believe, financial ability. 410 00:18:05,584 --> 00:18:07,086 (engine puttering) 411 00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:10,631 Cornwall was formerly a heavy industrial town. 412 00:18:10,631 --> 00:18:12,049 That is no more. 413 00:18:12,049 --> 00:18:14,510 Those very-well-paying jobs are gone. 414 00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:16,178 (beeping) 415 00:18:16,178 --> 00:18:17,763 And again, we’re talking about setting aside 416 00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:20,433 fair chunks of change to deal with cats, 417 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:21,934 when there are people in this city 418 00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:24,729 who have to decide whether they want 419 00:18:24,729 --> 00:18:26,480 to pay the rent or eat. 420 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,566 (chewing) 421 00:18:28,566 --> 00:18:31,360 (clinking) 422 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,613 (whirring) 423 00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:36,907 (clicking) 424 00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:42,663 ♪ 425 00:18:42,663 --> 00:18:45,750 (thudding) 426 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:49,170 (clinking) 427 00:18:49,170 --> 00:18:53,090 So, for my rescue, people can drop off empties and donations, 428 00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:55,092 which helps pay the vet bills. 429 00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:56,510 (clinking) 430 00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:58,637 Big ones are worth 20 cents. 431 00:18:58,637 --> 00:19:01,098 Small ones are worth 10 cents. 432 00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:02,350 So, every bit helps. 433 00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:05,186 And, um, yeah, cash them in. 434 00:19:05,186 --> 00:19:08,606 (clinking) 435 00:19:08,606 --> 00:19:11,359 ♪ 436 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,611 It costs a lot to run a rescue when you’re one person 437 00:19:13,611 --> 00:19:15,237 doing it yourself. 438 00:19:15,237 --> 00:19:16,739 But, here we are. 439 00:19:16,739 --> 00:19:18,324 I mean, hopefully this city steps up 440 00:19:18,324 --> 00:19:20,284 and helps people like me 441 00:19:20,284 --> 00:19:23,204 who are trying to do their part, I guess. 442 00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:31,170 ♪ 443 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:33,839 I don’t know what it is, but it’s half rewarding 444 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:35,299 and half devastating. 445 00:19:35,299 --> 00:19:37,676 So, I do rescue and I go home. 446 00:19:37,676 --> 00:19:40,429 Like, I don’t have a social life or anything, 447 00:19:40,429 --> 00:19:42,890 so, kittens. 448 00:19:44,975 --> 00:19:47,228 (rattling) 449 00:19:47,228 --> 00:19:49,563 (whirring) 450 00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:53,776 She’s a fighter, she’s a big fighter. 451 00:19:53,776 --> 00:19:55,694 She’s like, what, 27 maybe. 452 00:19:55,694 --> 00:19:58,864 I don’t think I was that much of a fighter at that age. 453 00:19:58,864 --> 00:20:01,909 I’m learning, as she’s learning, that we have one fight. 454 00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:04,537 That’s to help the cats in Cornwall. 455 00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:08,290 ♪ 456 00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:11,168 The problem started in East End. 457 00:20:11,168 --> 00:20:13,838 Low income area unfortunately. 458 00:20:13,838 --> 00:20:16,340 And if they’re not fixed, you’re gonna have kittens, 459 00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:18,384 and kittens, kittens. . that’s the problem. 460 00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:19,844 (meowing) 461 00:20:19,844 --> 00:20:21,846 Some people still aren’t getting it, 462 00:20:21,846 --> 00:20:23,722 which is very maddening to us. 463 00:20:23,722 --> 00:20:25,599 And we see things more than the councilors, 464 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:27,435 like, they have no idea. 465 00:20:27,435 --> 00:20:28,853 You know, a couple of them said, "Well, it’s not 466 00:20:28,853 --> 00:20:30,688 in my neighborhood," but if you don’t fix 467 00:20:30,688 --> 00:20:33,065 the problem now, it will be in your neighborhood. 468 00:20:34,692 --> 00:20:36,861 So, whenever it all came about with the cats, 469 00:20:36,861 --> 00:20:39,947 I thought to myself, "How can I make people talk? 470 00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:41,824 How can I make people talk?" 471 00:20:41,824 --> 00:20:45,870 ♪ 472 00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:47,413 I’m gonna run. 473 00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:51,041 I’m gonna run for municipal election. 474 00:20:51,041 --> 00:20:52,501 I had one sign. 475 00:20:52,501 --> 00:20:55,296 This is my one election sign right here. 476 00:20:55,296 --> 00:20:56,839 And I put the sign all over, 477 00:20:56,839 --> 00:20:58,591 and then people will think, "Oh, my God, 478 00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:01,343 she has all these signs" . no, I only had one sign, okay. 479 00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:04,597 -You ready? -There we go. 480 00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:06,098 Easy come, easy go. 481 00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:08,601 ♪ 482 00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,394 And I had one ad in the newspaper, 483 00:21:10,394 --> 00:21:12,521 which was amazing, because usually 484 00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:14,690 the people would have a picture of their face, you know. 485 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:18,194 No, no, not me, I had a picture of a bloody cat in a trap. 486 00:21:18,194 --> 00:21:20,154 ♪ 487 00:21:20,154 --> 00:21:22,907 As I said, a vote for me was a vote for the cats. 488 00:21:22,907 --> 00:21:25,451 Got a couple emails saying, "Oh, my God, I can’t believe 489 00:21:25,451 --> 00:21:27,286 you’re running just on this platform," 490 00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:29,038 and I said, "Yes, yes, I am. " 491 00:21:29,038 --> 00:21:30,372 But, that was fine, you’re gonna 492 00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:32,124 have haters everywhere. 493 00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:33,542 You just deal with ’em. 494 00:21:33,542 --> 00:21:36,629 ♪ 495 00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:38,839 Time to go find out the election results. 496 00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:40,674 ♪ 497 00:21:40,674 --> 00:21:41,967 We’re doing well, we are. 498 00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:43,511 I wanted 400. 499 00:21:43,511 --> 00:21:45,054 This is awesome. 500 00:21:45,054 --> 00:21:47,515 I know I’m not gonna get in. 501 00:21:47,515 --> 00:21:49,433 I knew that from the beginning, but this is 502 00:21:49,433 --> 00:21:52,937 an awareness campaign, and this is where we’re at. 503 00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:55,856 So, we were looking at the screen, Mellissa and I, 504 00:21:55,856 --> 00:21:58,400 and, "Oh, my God, it’s going up. " 505 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,694 ♪ 506 00:22:00,694 --> 00:22:02,988 I was hoping maybe for 500 votes, 507 00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:05,783 and I got 1,532 votes 508 00:22:05,783 --> 00:22:09,036 all over my one platform. 509 00:22:09,036 --> 00:22:11,914 So, that was pretty good, got people talking. 510 00:22:11,914 --> 00:22:13,999 ♪ 511 00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:16,043 Well, there should be a program where they at least 512 00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:18,295 capture them and spay or neuter them, 513 00:22:18,295 --> 00:22:20,756 and, uh, you know, but they don’t. 514 00:22:20,756 --> 00:22:22,841 Seems like it’s a never-ending circle 515 00:22:22,841 --> 00:22:25,052 for years and years, and honestly, 516 00:22:25,052 --> 00:22:27,888 I think that by now it would change 517 00:22:27,888 --> 00:22:30,057 much more than this. 518 00:22:30,057 --> 00:22:32,935 -That’s minor. -I think there’s a lot 519 00:22:32,935 --> 00:22:35,646 more important things to be looking at 520 00:22:35,646 --> 00:22:38,399 than cats. 521 00:22:38,399 --> 00:22:40,150 Well, my way of looking at them is, 522 00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:41,610 they’re better to put them to sleep 523 00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:44,822 than letting ’em die cruelly 524 00:22:44,822 --> 00:22:47,533 Last time it was pigeons, four years ago, 525 00:22:47,533 --> 00:22:51,036 and now it’s cats, so we have all nature, 526 00:22:51,036 --> 00:22:53,747 creatures we have to deal with. 527 00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:56,250 If you own a cat, they should be in the house, 528 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:58,836 and you should take them to the vet regularly. 529 00:22:58,836 --> 00:23:00,671 But, a lot of people don’t think that way, 530 00:23:00,671 --> 00:23:02,548 you know, they believe, eh, should be outside, 531 00:23:02,548 --> 00:23:05,426 and they don’t really care for them. 532 00:23:05,426 --> 00:23:07,386 ♪ 533 00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:09,805 Well, I’d like for the city to be involved in it 534 00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:12,057 and get them fixed. 535 00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:13,517 Right now they’re doing nothing at all. 536 00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:15,185 It’s just going out of control. 537 00:23:15,185 --> 00:23:17,354 They wanna talk about feral cats, 538 00:23:17,354 --> 00:23:21,108 talk. . okay, talk about bugs. 539 00:23:21,108 --> 00:23:24,528 Do you think Cornwall has a problem with cats? 540 00:23:24,528 --> 00:23:28,198 No, I would say we have a problem with people. 541 00:23:28,198 --> 00:23:30,492 ♪ 542 00:23:30,492 --> 00:23:34,747 They’ll end up staying in that pile of a mess over there. 543 00:23:34,747 --> 00:23:36,290 Unwanted cats. 544 00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:38,375 So, we put food and water, 545 00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:41,003 because I can’t let them starve. 546 00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:42,838 ♪ 547 00:23:42,838 --> 00:23:45,883 When I look into their eyes, it’s like I feel like 548 00:23:45,883 --> 00:23:48,677 I can see their soul, and I feel like 549 00:23:48,677 --> 00:23:50,679 their loneliness or their pain, 550 00:23:50,679 --> 00:23:52,848 and I just. . I just have to help. 551 00:23:55,893 --> 00:23:58,187 Typically invasive species are viewed as being 552 00:23:58,187 --> 00:23:59,730 quite harmful. 553 00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:01,398 But, unfortunately, how we view cats 554 00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:03,317 is much different ’cause our deep connection 555 00:24:03,317 --> 00:24:05,736 with our pets. 556 00:24:05,736 --> 00:24:08,614 It’s very easy for me to say, "Go keep your cat inside. " 557 00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:11,200 But, the reality is that that’s not always easy. 558 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,618 We’re working with human behavior, 559 00:24:12,618 --> 00:24:14,411 and we’re also working with cat behavior, 560 00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:17,039 and that’s what makes them a very complicated 561 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:20,250 and complex conservation issue. 562 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:22,836 In neighborhoods where people don’t have a lot of money, 563 00:24:22,836 --> 00:24:24,588 these neighborhoods may benefit from 564 00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:27,299 subsidized spay and neuter, 565 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:29,968 and also education campaigns that are targeted 566 00:24:29,968 --> 00:24:31,762 in those neighborhoods that can help reduce 567 00:24:31,762 --> 00:24:34,181 the number of cats that are being thrown outside. 568 00:24:34,181 --> 00:24:36,517 ♪ 569 00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:39,019 (meowing) 570 00:24:39,019 --> 00:24:41,647 ♪ 571 00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:44,066 (whirring) 572 00:24:46,902 --> 00:24:48,904 The neighbors here next door 573 00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:51,782 were furious about the cats. 574 00:24:51,782 --> 00:24:54,660 Didn’t want me feeding ’em, nothing, 575 00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:58,997 and they eventually had to move away. 576 00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:01,500 It was the fact that a pair of kittens 577 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:04,211 came along and were looking for food, 578 00:25:04,211 --> 00:25:07,506 and then I had five kittens come along looking for food, 579 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:09,383 and I fed them. 580 00:25:09,383 --> 00:25:10,968 That’s how it started. 581 00:25:10,968 --> 00:25:13,512 ♪ 582 00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:15,848 Twice a day that I come down with a dish 583 00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:17,975 of dry and wet food. 584 00:25:17,975 --> 00:25:20,561 ♪ 585 00:25:20,561 --> 00:25:22,771 I’m not sure if it’s a problem of cats 586 00:25:22,771 --> 00:25:24,648 or a problem of mice. 587 00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:26,775 They’re not around, there’s more mice. 588 00:25:26,775 --> 00:25:29,445 There’s even a rat showed up here. 589 00:25:29,445 --> 00:25:32,573 I mean, I don’t particularly want them in my home, 590 00:25:32,573 --> 00:25:35,075 so having the cats around 591 00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:37,411 is part of life. 592 00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:41,957 (birds chirping) 593 00:25:41,957 --> 00:25:44,376 (rustling) 594 00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:49,506 Everyone’s doing really well. 595 00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:51,467 They all had their surgeries and are recovered 596 00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:54,386 so they can go to their forever homes. 597 00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:56,305 Hey, babes. 598 00:25:56,305 --> 00:25:59,683 So, everyone’s, like, a full-on kitten now. 599 00:25:59,683 --> 00:26:02,102 Proper kitten, no more bottles. 600 00:26:02,102 --> 00:26:03,812 Jackson took the longest. 601 00:26:03,812 --> 00:26:07,316 He was still eight weeks old and on a bottle. 602 00:26:07,316 --> 00:26:10,110 He ended up with almost 60,000 Likes 603 00:26:10,110 --> 00:26:12,821 on his little photo, so my page blew up 604 00:26:12,821 --> 00:26:14,072 after that a little bit. 605 00:26:14,072 --> 00:26:16,450 (ticking) 606 00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:18,702 They’re really easy going because they’re used to people. 607 00:26:18,702 --> 00:26:19,912 I mean, that’s all they know, right? 608 00:26:19,912 --> 00:26:22,206 They didn’t have a cat mom. 609 00:26:22,206 --> 00:26:24,708 Babe, my new pants. 610 00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:27,586 My new pants, love. 611 00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:30,464 And they just are obsessed with everybody. 612 00:26:30,464 --> 00:26:32,424 Hey, buddy. 613 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:33,675 You like people, eh? 614 00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:34,927 No. 615 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,054 No thanks, no thanks, no thanks. 616 00:26:37,054 --> 00:26:40,224 (rustling) 617 00:26:40,224 --> 00:26:42,643 (chimes dinging) 618 00:26:46,772 --> 00:26:48,774 Have they been around for a long time? 619 00:26:48,774 --> 00:26:50,692 I’ve been looking after these guys 620 00:26:50,692 --> 00:26:53,612 for two months. 621 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:56,073 A man moved in next door to a lady 622 00:26:56,073 --> 00:26:58,909 that was helping feed a colony. 623 00:26:58,909 --> 00:27:01,537 And within 24 hours of him being there, 624 00:27:01,537 --> 00:27:03,497 he put poison in the water. 625 00:27:03,497 --> 00:27:05,749 Two moms and two litters were found dead 626 00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:07,543 all over the backyard. 627 00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:11,129 I think there’s probably about eight cats went down. 628 00:27:11,129 --> 00:27:14,341 Within days, they turned up, 629 00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:17,010 and they were just little kittens. 630 00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:18,637 There was kittens found dead on the road. 631 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:21,431 There was one cat decapitated by this man. 632 00:27:21,431 --> 00:27:22,891 The cats scattered in all directions, 633 00:27:22,891 --> 00:27:25,143 and they came this way. 634 00:27:25,143 --> 00:27:28,313 So, that’s why I inherited these little guys. 635 00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:29,982 So, that’s Guimauve, 636 00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:31,483 and the other little boy, 637 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,569 that’s George. 638 00:27:33,569 --> 00:27:35,529 Oh, my God, he’s so cute. 639 00:27:37,447 --> 00:27:40,325 So, how many cats do you think are actually around here then? 640 00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:42,953 I usually have six guaranteed. 641 00:27:42,953 --> 00:27:44,621 (meowing) 642 00:27:44,621 --> 00:27:45,873 You wanna just come with me for a second? 643 00:27:45,873 --> 00:27:48,166 I’ll show you. 644 00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:51,378 Lisa, because she’s not part of this, is staying away. 645 00:27:51,378 --> 00:27:52,588 -Really? -Well, she doesn’t wanna 646 00:27:52,588 --> 00:27:54,715 come in here, so I brought a crate out 647 00:27:54,715 --> 00:27:56,758 and put straw inside. 648 00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:59,052 But, she keeps having lots of kittens. 649 00:27:59,052 --> 00:28:01,138 She needs to be caught. 650 00:28:01,138 --> 00:28:03,974 -Oh. -Last winter. . 651 00:28:03,974 --> 00:28:05,183 -Mellissa? -Yeah? 652 00:28:05,183 --> 00:28:07,185 -She ate her babies. -Ate them? 653 00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:11,189 I was like, "I didn’t know cats did that. " 654 00:28:13,066 --> 00:28:14,693 It’s gonna be an interesting winter. 655 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,111 Mhm. 656 00:28:16,111 --> 00:28:18,614 (bird cawing) 657 00:28:18,614 --> 00:28:28,540 ♪ 658 00:28:47,225 --> 00:28:49,603 The cats are dying. 659 00:28:49,603 --> 00:28:51,605 A lot of them do freeze, 660 00:28:51,605 --> 00:28:54,608 and they’re also starving. 661 00:28:54,608 --> 00:28:57,235 I believe tonight is gonna be -11, 662 00:28:57,235 --> 00:28:59,488 and that’s pretty cold. 663 00:28:59,488 --> 00:29:00,989 So, we’re gonna be doing some trapping 664 00:29:00,989 --> 00:29:02,658 in the next couple of days. 665 00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:04,284 We put the traps out with some food, 666 00:29:04,284 --> 00:29:07,621 and a lot of times we just wait around. 667 00:29:07,621 --> 00:29:09,915 So, hopefully we have five to six cats 668 00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:12,459 tomorrow morning, and going to the vet. 669 00:29:12,459 --> 00:29:14,878 (whirring) 670 00:29:17,714 --> 00:29:20,050 ♪ 671 00:29:20,050 --> 00:29:21,510 -Morning. -Good morning. 672 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:23,720 How are you? You’re supposed to be sleeping. 673 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,598 I know. 674 00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:27,891 Here we go. 675 00:29:27,891 --> 00:29:29,768 Oh, smaller, yes. 676 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:31,186 Hey, there he is. 677 00:29:31,186 --> 00:29:32,437 Yes, hello. 678 00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:33,647 -Okay, got it? -Yeah. 679 00:29:33,647 --> 00:29:34,773 You take. . you take this one. 680 00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:36,441 -Okay. -Okay? 681 00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,360 Maarten and I, we’re the only two people in Cornwall 682 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,820 that do the trapping. 683 00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:43,448 75 cats over 3 years, which is quite good. 684 00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:46,076 Maarten, strong willed, hard head. 685 00:29:46,076 --> 00:29:47,619 Loves animals for sure. 686 00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:48,954 He’s a good friend. 687 00:29:48,954 --> 00:29:50,914 We both love cats, and we have to do 688 00:29:50,914 --> 00:29:53,625 what we have to do. 689 00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:55,335 (indistinct remarks) 690 00:29:55,335 --> 00:29:56,837 But, I’ve been dealing with Lynda for five years, 691 00:29:56,837 --> 00:29:59,589 so she knows what’s going on. 692 00:29:59,589 --> 00:30:01,883 -Probably 4:00. -Okay, I’ll be here. 693 00:30:01,883 --> 00:30:03,260 Okay, thanks, talk to you later. 694 00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:05,178 -Appreciate it. -Bye. 695 00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:09,349 ♪ 696 00:30:09,349 --> 00:30:11,727 (thudding) 697 00:30:11,727 --> 00:30:15,022 Here in Cornwall the vet charges way too much money. 698 00:30:15,022 --> 00:30:18,525 So, that’s why we go to Saint-Zotique, Quebec. 699 00:30:18,525 --> 00:30:22,446 So, the prices in Saint-Zotique are about $130 for a male, 700 00:30:22,446 --> 00:30:24,489 and $155 for a female. 701 00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:28,201 To get a cat spayed or neutered in Cornwall is $500. 702 00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:30,746 ♪ 703 00:30:30,746 --> 00:30:33,248 (meowing) 704 00:30:33,248 --> 00:30:37,961 ♪ 705 00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:40,464 (clicking) 706 00:30:40,464 --> 00:30:42,758 ♪ 707 00:30:42,758 --> 00:30:44,718 We’re gonna take the traps in first, right? 708 00:30:44,718 --> 00:30:45,927 -Yeah. -Yeah, we’ll come back 709 00:30:45,927 --> 00:30:47,512 for the carriers. 710 00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:49,181 ♪ 711 00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:51,099 Right, big fella? 712 00:30:51,099 --> 00:30:52,392 Not happy, eh? 713 00:30:52,392 --> 00:30:53,894 This ones a scared one. 714 00:30:53,894 --> 00:30:56,438 Here, don’t worry, nobody’s gonna hurt ya. 715 00:30:56,438 --> 00:30:59,524 You’re gonna be fine. 716 00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:01,443 -Hello, good morning. -How are you? 717 00:31:01,443 --> 00:31:02,736 Good, how are you? 718 00:31:02,736 --> 00:31:05,238 (speaking French) 719 00:31:05,238 --> 00:31:07,157 ♪ 720 00:31:07,157 --> 00:31:10,660 So, from here, Jen takes ’em into that room, 721 00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:14,164 checks them over and everything. 722 00:31:14,164 --> 00:31:16,625 (creaking) 723 00:31:16,625 --> 00:31:19,169 (phone ringing) 724 00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:21,296 -How many traps am I paying for? -Three. 725 00:31:21,296 --> 00:31:23,298 -Three, yep. -Three traps? 726 00:31:23,298 --> 00:31:26,468 I was able to raise the funds through my supporters 727 00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:30,597 for the three or four that are getting done today. 728 00:31:30,597 --> 00:31:33,558 (meowing) 729 00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:35,477 I have to constantly ask people for money, 730 00:31:35,477 --> 00:31:37,270 which I really hate doing. 731 00:31:37,270 --> 00:31:39,815 But, if I don’t ask for help, then we don’t make progress. 732 00:31:39,815 --> 00:31:41,608 (buzzing) 733 00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:45,237 We need a better plan, we have tons of kittens being born, 734 00:31:45,237 --> 00:31:48,281 tons of ferals reproducing, like, it’s just never ending. 735 00:31:48,281 --> 00:31:51,201 (humming) 736 00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:54,538 There’s like so many of them dying outside, the cats, 737 00:31:54,538 --> 00:31:56,206 they’re dying outside. 738 00:31:56,206 --> 00:31:59,292 (buzzing) 739 00:31:59,292 --> 00:32:01,169 (phone ringing) 740 00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:07,676 (beeping) 741 00:32:09,719 --> 00:32:12,139 (speaking French) 742 00:32:17,686 --> 00:32:20,188 (clinking) 743 00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:22,607 (beeping) 744 00:32:24,985 --> 00:32:26,570 My name is Lousie Lavallé 745 00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:28,989 I’m a veterinarian who does surgeries, 746 00:32:28,989 --> 00:32:32,742 principally spaying and neutering for shelter cats, 747 00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:35,579 community cats, people with low income. 748 00:32:35,579 --> 00:32:38,081 (indistinct remarks) 749 00:32:38,081 --> 00:32:44,629 ♪ 750 00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:47,257 I would like municipalities or governments 751 00:32:47,257 --> 00:32:50,594 having regulations, so every animal that is sold 752 00:32:50,594 --> 00:32:54,598 in a pet store or from breeders are fixed. 753 00:32:54,598 --> 00:32:56,850 Because, me, I’m doing sterilization. 754 00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:59,853 But, the problem, I’m always doing sterilization. 755 00:32:59,853 --> 00:33:01,396 I want this to decrease. 756 00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:03,773 But, if there is always animals coming 757 00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:05,567 that are not sterilized. 758 00:33:05,567 --> 00:33:07,736 (beeping) 759 00:33:07,736 --> 00:33:09,487 It’s like when you have a problem 760 00:33:09,487 --> 00:33:11,573 with your water and your tap. 761 00:33:11,573 --> 00:33:14,534 The water is running over the sink on your floor. 762 00:33:14,534 --> 00:33:17,579 You’re gonna get a towel to remove all the water. 763 00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:20,707 But, you’re gonna close the tap first, okay. 764 00:33:20,707 --> 00:33:24,127 That’s the same thing for the cats. 765 00:33:24,127 --> 00:33:27,297 Somebody has to close the tap. 766 00:33:27,297 --> 00:33:29,799 (beeping) 767 00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:37,641 ♪ 768 00:33:37,641 --> 00:33:40,060 (chimes dinging) 769 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:47,359 (indistinct remarks) 770 00:33:49,277 --> 00:33:51,488 Yeah, that’s the one. 771 00:33:51,488 --> 00:33:52,989 Okay, you. 772 00:33:54,616 --> 00:33:57,410 -Thank you, Lynda. -You’re welcome, thank you. 773 00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:04,125 (meowing) 774 00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:09,339 (chirping) 775 00:34:09,339 --> 00:34:12,342 Wow, that’s fascinating. 776 00:34:12,342 --> 00:34:15,053 ♪ 777 00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:17,681 The TNR cats always come together in a group. 778 00:34:17,681 --> 00:34:19,474 ♪ 779 00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:21,518 (meowing) 780 00:34:21,518 --> 00:34:23,812 ♪ 781 00:34:23,812 --> 00:34:25,438 Oh, that’s, uh, Guimauve. 782 00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:27,357 (meowing) 783 00:34:27,357 --> 00:34:30,110 The water’s frozen. 784 00:34:30,110 --> 00:34:33,363 He’s pulling the water bowl towards him. 785 00:34:33,363 --> 00:34:35,573 He’s trying to break the ice. 786 00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:38,743 ♪ 787 00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:40,996 He’s pretty determined to get a drink. 788 00:34:40,996 --> 00:34:43,164 ♪ 789 00:34:43,164 --> 00:34:44,666 He’s using his head. 790 00:34:44,666 --> 00:34:46,418 ♪ 791 00:34:46,418 --> 00:34:48,878 That’s hilarious. 792 00:34:48,878 --> 00:34:50,964 Guimauve, he’s very, very curious, 793 00:34:50,964 --> 00:34:54,342 and he’s the one I’m most concerned about in the summer. 794 00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:56,720 He’s going to get himself in trouble. 795 00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,139 ♪ 796 00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:00,932 Maybe if people could see these movies of them, 797 00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:05,103 they wouldn’t be so anxious, you know, to hurt them, 798 00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:07,439 poison them, trap them. 799 00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:10,984 Like the guy that poisoned all the cats on the street. 800 00:35:10,984 --> 00:35:12,569 (cat mewing) 801 00:35:12,569 --> 00:35:14,446 When people like me are feeding the feral cats, 802 00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:16,656 they’re no longer going into the garbage. 803 00:35:16,656 --> 00:35:18,575 There’s no fights on the street. 804 00:35:18,575 --> 00:35:20,910 But still, people don’t want the cats. 805 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:22,954 ♪ 806 00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:24,873 I don’t know why he’s chubby like that, 807 00:35:24,873 --> 00:35:27,667 but he’s got a real cute, lovable character. 808 00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:31,004 ♪ 809 00:35:31,004 --> 00:35:32,422 He would have made a good pet. 810 00:35:32,422 --> 00:35:40,347 ♪ 811 00:35:40,347 --> 00:35:41,931 The cats are all over. 812 00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:44,142 I am finding out more and more from other people 813 00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:46,644 that they are having problems as well 814 00:35:46,644 --> 00:35:49,064 and they are feeding ten cats or more. 815 00:35:49,064 --> 00:35:51,107 I am thinking, okay, how many houses, 816 00:35:51,107 --> 00:35:52,776 how many people are doing this? 817 00:35:52,776 --> 00:35:54,861 I can’t save them all. 818 00:35:54,861 --> 00:35:56,863 As of three weeks ago, 819 00:35:56,863 --> 00:35:59,240 we were about 5,000 still in debt 820 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:00,909 and that’s a lot of money. 821 00:36:00,909 --> 00:36:02,911 That’s crazy. 822 00:36:02,911 --> 00:36:05,622 The city of Cornwall. It’s just frustrating. 823 00:36:05,622 --> 00:36:08,375 It takes so friggin’ long to get anywhere. 824 00:36:08,375 --> 00:36:10,168 Which, I get, like, it’s not their priority, 825 00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:14,089 but. . the kittens are coming. 826 00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:16,591 Truly, I think they’re ignoring us right now. 827 00:36:16,591 --> 00:36:21,304 (telephone ringing) 828 00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:23,973 You have reached the building and bylaw department. 829 00:36:23,973 --> 00:36:26,309 If you are calling to schedule an inspection 830 00:36:26,309 --> 00:36:28,353 or to make a bylaw complaint, 831 00:36:28,353 --> 00:36:30,605 please leave me a message and I’ll call you back. 832 00:36:30,605 --> 00:36:31,940 Thank you. 833 00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:33,566 (dial tone) 834 00:36:33,566 --> 00:36:36,694 ♪ 835 00:36:36,694 --> 00:36:39,114 (hum of passing traffic) 836 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:45,912 We’re both getting fed up. 837 00:36:45,912 --> 00:36:49,082 Like it’s time to get the money into the budget. 838 00:36:49,082 --> 00:36:51,543 Like, don’t fool around with us anymore, we’re done. 839 00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:53,086 ♪ 840 00:36:53,086 --> 00:36:54,546 Next week is Christmas, 841 00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:56,339 and I’m thinking about the bloody cats. 842 00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:57,924 Minus twenty or whatever. 843 00:36:57,924 --> 00:36:59,759 That kills me, it really does. 844 00:36:59,759 --> 00:37:02,679 So you sort of feel defeated in a way. 845 00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:05,682 But you can’t let it get you down, 846 00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:07,809 you gotta keep on going. 847 00:37:07,809 --> 00:37:10,728 I got hooked up with a woman named Brigit 848 00:37:10,728 --> 00:37:12,439 and I had no idea, 849 00:37:12,439 --> 00:37:15,150 Lynda lives like one minute away around the corner. 850 00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:19,654 So close, we’re talking like another 10 cats in one house. 851 00:37:19,654 --> 00:37:21,990 Her and her husband, they’re feeding the cats 852 00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:24,242 but they’re also multiplying because they can’t afford 853 00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,411 to spay or neuter them. 854 00:37:26,411 --> 00:37:28,163 We should have a meeting one night, we should all 855 00:37:28,163 --> 00:37:30,790 get together and just try and get other people involved. 856 00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:32,584 I want to find out if there’s more houses like this. 857 00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:34,294 -I really, really do. -I’m sure there is 858 00:37:34,294 --> 00:37:36,713 because I’ve heard rumors and neighbors talk. 859 00:37:36,713 --> 00:37:39,174 So there’s a couple of people down the street here 860 00:37:39,174 --> 00:37:42,177 who are feeding and I want to find out who it is. 861 00:37:42,177 --> 00:37:43,761 There’s a cat right there, there’s a cat right there, 862 00:37:43,761 --> 00:37:46,431 right across the street. 863 00:37:46,431 --> 00:37:48,892 There’s lots of cats here. 864 00:37:48,892 --> 00:37:51,186 I’ve left three traps at Brigit’s, 865 00:37:51,186 --> 00:37:53,146 gone over everything with her, 866 00:37:53,146 --> 00:37:54,647 and hopefully all goes well. 867 00:37:54,647 --> 00:38:02,238 ♪ 868 00:38:02,238 --> 00:38:04,199 (crow cawing) 869 00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:07,827 ♪ 870 00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:09,204 My name is Brigit Lueck 871 00:38:09,204 --> 00:38:12,123 and I am just recently from Vancouver. 872 00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:14,083 Oh my God. 873 00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:16,753 I came here and I’m like, "What’s up with all the cats? 874 00:38:16,753 --> 00:38:18,254 They’re, like, everywhere. " 875 00:38:18,254 --> 00:38:19,464 Okay. 876 00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:20,840 ♪ 877 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,134 Here, there is no organized strategy 878 00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:25,512 around the feral cats. 879 00:38:25,512 --> 00:38:27,138 A lot of people are pretty overwhelmed. 880 00:38:27,138 --> 00:38:29,098 Like, that’s kind of what happened with us too 881 00:38:29,098 --> 00:38:30,391 when we came here. 882 00:38:30,391 --> 00:38:32,060 Can you get that one? 883 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:34,020 We just couldn’t, you know, 884 00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:39,359 neuter like 12 cats that are coming through, right? 885 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:43,071 So it’s an overwhelming situation at the moment. 886 00:38:43,071 --> 00:38:44,781 -How are you? -Hello. 887 00:38:44,781 --> 00:38:46,199 Hey, how are you? 888 00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:47,909 It’s okay. You have a pretty tail too, eh? 889 00:38:47,909 --> 00:38:50,578 Different colors. Different colors. 890 00:38:50,578 --> 00:38:51,871 Okay. 891 00:38:51,871 --> 00:38:54,290 (hum of passing traffic) 892 00:38:56,876 --> 00:38:59,420 He’s really heavy. 893 00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:02,632 I think it’s a male just by the size of his face 894 00:39:02,632 --> 00:39:04,008 and of his neck. 895 00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:07,345 They develop more muscle when they are male 896 00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:09,430 because of the testosterone. 897 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:11,057 Of course, he’s still stressed, 898 00:39:11,057 --> 00:39:13,768 but we’re going to try to have him come here. 899 00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:16,020 Come, come. 900 00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:18,648 -(cat hisses) -Okay. 901 00:39:18,648 --> 00:39:20,066 (hisses) 902 00:39:20,066 --> 00:39:22,694 ♪ 903 00:39:22,694 --> 00:39:24,487 (clippers buzzing) 904 00:39:24,487 --> 00:39:31,744 ♪ 905 00:39:31,744 --> 00:39:33,538 (cat meowing) 906 00:39:33,538 --> 00:39:35,248 Okay. 907 00:39:35,248 --> 00:39:36,457 Ready? Hold on. 908 00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:38,751 ♪ 909 00:39:38,751 --> 00:39:39,961 Perfect. 910 00:39:39,961 --> 00:39:41,170 Happy. 911 00:39:41,170 --> 00:39:42,213 Great. 912 00:39:42,213 --> 00:39:44,674 Okay. Ohh. 913 00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:52,682 ♪ 914 00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:56,269 (crows cawing) 915 00:39:58,229 --> 00:40:00,815 Are you alert? I put a little bit of food here 916 00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:03,067 just to see if she’d eat and she did eat. 917 00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:05,653 So she’s alert, and I think ready to go. 918 00:40:05,653 --> 00:40:08,615 ♪ 919 00:40:08,615 --> 00:40:10,491 (cat mewling) 920 00:40:10,491 --> 00:40:20,418 ♪ 921 00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:25,131 (cat yowling) 922 00:40:25,131 --> 00:40:27,967 Okay. This one is a little bit upset. 923 00:40:27,967 --> 00:40:31,971 That’s also a good sign because she’s a fighter, obviously. 924 00:40:31,971 --> 00:40:33,931 (cat yowling) 925 00:40:33,931 --> 00:40:41,105 ♪ 926 00:40:41,105 --> 00:40:44,484 (cat yowling) 927 00:40:44,484 --> 00:40:46,235 You ready, pumpkin? 928 00:40:48,363 --> 00:40:49,822 (bird cawing) 929 00:40:49,822 --> 00:40:52,825 ♪ 930 00:40:52,825 --> 00:40:54,410 Taking his time, actually. 931 00:40:54,410 --> 00:41:03,711 ♪ 932 00:41:06,381 --> 00:41:08,341 (crunching) 933 00:41:08,341 --> 00:41:09,801 (bird chittering) 934 00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:16,975 ♪ 935 00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:18,309 That’s it. 936 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:20,186 Three trapped, three released. 937 00:41:20,186 --> 00:41:25,566 ♪ 938 00:41:25,566 --> 00:41:28,611 Right now, I don’t think science has really figured out 939 00:41:28,611 --> 00:41:30,530 what is best in all situations. 940 00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:32,573 It’s hard to say if trap-neuter-release 941 00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:35,618 is actually effective at reducing cat populations. 942 00:41:35,618 --> 00:41:38,496 We might reduce the original number of cats 943 00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:40,707 that were in a trap-neuter-release colony, 944 00:41:40,707 --> 00:41:42,959 but you can still have cats come into that colony 945 00:41:42,959 --> 00:41:44,961 from other areas. 946 00:41:44,961 --> 00:41:48,256 For it to be effective, it would need to be continuous. 947 00:41:48,256 --> 00:41:50,341 Every cat that comes into that population, 948 00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:52,844 we’d need to make sure that it is spayed or neutered. 949 00:41:52,844 --> 00:42:02,770 ♪ 950 00:42:06,065 --> 00:42:08,526 ♪ 951 00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:10,862 (soft lapping) 952 00:42:10,862 --> 00:42:12,280 (soft mewing) 953 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,740 (bell jingling) 954 00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:16,367 Boys, boys. 955 00:42:16,367 --> 00:42:18,327 You’re such bad boys, stop. 956 00:42:18,327 --> 00:42:20,705 ♪ 957 00:42:20,705 --> 00:42:23,416 (cats mewing, chittering) 958 00:42:23,416 --> 00:42:31,799 ♪ 959 00:42:31,799 --> 00:42:33,968 They all have homes, we’re just waiting to figure out 960 00:42:33,968 --> 00:42:37,722 when the families can arrange for me to drop them off. 961 00:42:37,722 --> 00:42:39,223 I just prefer to see where they’re going 962 00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:40,850 because it makes me feel a little bit better 963 00:42:40,850 --> 00:42:43,144 when they leave me. 964 00:42:43,144 --> 00:42:46,397 So, yeah, I always drop them off no matter how far it is. 965 00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:47,398 Get back down. 966 00:42:47,398 --> 00:42:49,108 (she laughs) 967 00:42:49,108 --> 00:42:51,986 Monkey, that’s why we don’t open the window. 968 00:42:51,986 --> 00:42:56,157 Today, he is going to go to his forever home, unfortunately. 969 00:42:56,157 --> 00:42:57,575 Well, I mean, it’s bittersweet. 970 00:42:57,575 --> 00:42:59,702 It’s happy because he’s gonna have more space 971 00:42:59,702 --> 00:43:02,330 and a family who can give him more attention. 972 00:43:02,330 --> 00:43:05,458 But it’s always bittersweet when they leave. 973 00:43:05,458 --> 00:43:07,210 (soft purring) 974 00:43:07,210 --> 00:43:14,175 ♪ 975 00:43:14,175 --> 00:43:15,843 Ready to go, bud? 976 00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:17,762 (meowing) 977 00:43:23,267 --> 00:43:28,064 ♪ 978 00:43:28,064 --> 00:43:29,816 (soft meowing) 979 00:43:29,816 --> 00:43:39,742 ♪ 980 00:43:47,875 --> 00:43:52,255 Jackson must wonder what’s going on today. 981 00:43:52,255 --> 00:43:54,382 -Hello! -Go see! 982 00:43:54,382 --> 00:43:55,842 Let him go. 983 00:43:55,842 --> 00:43:57,885 What’s that? 984 00:43:57,885 --> 00:43:59,303 Just let him do his thing, honey. 985 00:43:59,303 --> 00:44:00,763 Are you purring, lovebug? 986 00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:01,931 (meowing) 987 00:44:01,931 --> 00:44:11,858 ♪ 988 00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:26,289 Okay, we have microchip information. 989 00:44:26,289 --> 00:44:28,374 So you send it back to them with your information 990 00:44:28,374 --> 00:44:30,334 so that it changes over to you instead of me. 991 00:44:30,334 --> 00:44:31,377 Okay. 992 00:44:31,377 --> 00:44:34,630 This is his vaccination record. 993 00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:36,632 Okay. 994 00:44:36,632 --> 00:44:38,134 And it does say he’s due for his next one, 995 00:44:38,134 --> 00:44:39,427 so you’ve made that appointment. 996 00:44:39,427 --> 00:44:41,095 Yup. 997 00:44:41,095 --> 00:44:43,472 So then when I go to my November 11th appointment, 998 00:44:43,472 --> 00:44:44,891 I’ll just bring that and that’s. . 999 00:44:44,891 --> 00:44:46,142 You can. 1000 00:44:46,142 --> 00:44:48,436 to show them what he’s had done, right? 1001 00:44:48,436 --> 00:44:51,480 Okay, okay. Perfect. 1002 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,150 -Easy enough. -Mm-hm. 1003 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:56,319 That’s it. 1004 00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:58,946 Your mama’s going, your mama, she going? 1005 00:44:58,946 --> 00:45:00,615 Yeah. 1006 00:45:00,615 --> 00:45:03,159 -Yeah. -He might be getting sleepy. 1007 00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,661 You need to give him a big squeeze and a big hug. 1008 00:45:05,661 --> 00:45:07,413 Bye, babe. 1009 00:45:07,413 --> 00:45:09,415 Say, you did a good job, Mama. 1010 00:45:09,415 --> 00:45:11,334 Hey? Look at you. 1011 00:45:11,334 --> 00:45:12,919 ♪ 1012 00:45:12,919 --> 00:45:14,295 Yeah. 1013 00:45:14,295 --> 00:45:15,922 Aww. 1014 00:45:15,922 --> 00:45:25,848 ♪ 1015 00:45:31,812 --> 00:45:33,522 How are you feeling right now? 1016 00:45:33,522 --> 00:45:35,942 Fine, actually, because they’re such great people 1017 00:45:35,942 --> 00:45:37,735 that it makes it just, like, easy. 1018 00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:42,114 ♪ 1019 00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:44,909 (rumble of car and passing traffic) 1020 00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:49,330 (bird cawing) 1021 00:45:49,330 --> 00:45:53,376 ♪ 1022 00:45:53,376 --> 00:45:55,461 The TNR was wonderful, 1023 00:45:55,461 --> 00:45:58,047 but they’re collecting friends. 1024 00:45:58,047 --> 00:46:03,260 ♪ 1025 00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:04,637 (cat mews) 1026 00:46:04,637 --> 00:46:10,142 ♪ 1027 00:46:10,142 --> 00:46:11,644 (cat mewing) 1028 00:46:11,644 --> 00:46:17,900 ♪ 1029 00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:19,652 (food rattling in can) 1030 00:46:19,652 --> 00:46:22,905 ♪ 1031 00:46:22,905 --> 00:46:26,033 I don’t mind the ones that I was made responsible for, 1032 00:46:26,033 --> 00:46:27,618 the ones that got TNR’d. 1033 00:46:27,618 --> 00:46:29,996 It’s that now I’m seeing multiple cats 1034 00:46:29,996 --> 00:46:31,789 that I haven’t seen before 1035 00:46:31,789 --> 00:46:34,208 and I don’t know how they communicate with each other, 1036 00:46:34,208 --> 00:46:37,795 how they all end up understanding that that house 1037 00:46:37,795 --> 00:46:40,631 has two little females that are not fixed 1038 00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:43,509 and there’s males coming from blocks away 1039 00:46:43,509 --> 00:46:45,761 to mate with the cats. 1040 00:46:45,761 --> 00:46:47,513 I mean, all you need is two cats out, right? 1041 00:46:47,513 --> 00:46:49,515 One male, one female, and off we go again. 1042 00:46:49,515 --> 00:46:51,559 ♪ 1043 00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:55,229 And it’s going to be a real issue with neighbors. 1044 00:46:55,229 --> 00:46:56,939 A real issue. 1045 00:46:56,939 --> 00:46:59,692 There’s going to be some very unhappy neighbors. 1046 00:46:59,692 --> 00:47:01,193 I’m afraid for the cats in the summer, 1047 00:47:01,193 --> 00:47:03,237 like I can’t protect them. 1048 00:47:03,237 --> 00:47:05,156 ♪ 1049 00:47:05,156 --> 00:47:07,074 (crow cawing) 1050 00:47:07,074 --> 00:47:08,451 ♪ 1051 00:47:08,451 --> 00:47:10,369 Australia is taking drastic measures 1052 00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:12,371 to control its cat population. 1053 00:47:12,371 --> 00:47:14,331 Government officials are launching a campaign 1054 00:47:14,331 --> 00:47:16,500 to kill more than two million cats. 1055 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,545 Ecologists say feral cats are responsible for the extinctions 1056 00:47:19,545 --> 00:47:23,340 of more than two dozen native Australian species. 1057 00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:25,342 What to do with all these stray cats 1058 00:47:25,342 --> 00:47:27,762 has long been a problem here. 1059 00:47:27,762 --> 00:47:30,723 Japan has vowed to control the wild cat problem 1060 00:47:30,723 --> 00:47:32,558 in time for the Olympic Games. 1061 00:47:32,558 --> 00:47:38,022 (announcer speaking in French) 1062 00:47:38,022 --> 00:47:39,982 Cats are an invasive species, 1063 00:47:39,982 --> 00:47:43,110 so bad, they’re killing billions of animals a year. 1064 00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:45,362 ♪ 1065 00:47:45,362 --> 00:47:47,364 It’s an instinct in cats 1066 00:47:47,364 --> 00:47:50,576 when they see something small move along in front of them 1067 00:47:50,576 --> 00:47:52,578 they just have to go for it. 1068 00:47:52,578 --> 00:47:55,081 It’s not the cats’ fault at all. 1069 00:47:57,708 --> 00:47:59,919 ♪ 1070 00:47:59,919 --> 00:48:02,463 I’m Hannah Lockwood and I research 1071 00:48:02,463 --> 00:48:06,300 the impact of domestic cats on prey populations. 1072 00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,260 So, this is a cat skull. 1073 00:48:08,260 --> 00:48:10,638 First, you’ll notice these huge eyes 1074 00:48:10,638 --> 00:48:13,557 which gives them great depth perception for stalking 1075 00:48:13,557 --> 00:48:16,352 and pouncing on prey. 1076 00:48:16,352 --> 00:48:19,188 They also have a separate organ 1077 00:48:19,188 --> 00:48:21,857 which is located behind the retina, 1078 00:48:21,857 --> 00:48:26,779 and that bounces light back through the retina and back out. 1079 00:48:26,779 --> 00:48:28,447 And that’s why you get the eye shine 1080 00:48:28,447 --> 00:48:32,451 if you ever take a photo of a cat with the flash on. 1081 00:48:32,451 --> 00:48:35,788 This is a bank vole skull, 1082 00:48:35,788 --> 00:48:38,499 and it would get it just straight by the neck 1083 00:48:38,499 --> 00:48:40,918 and eat it pretty much whole 1084 00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:43,712 and then deliver a killing bite with their sharp teeth. 1085 00:48:43,712 --> 00:48:46,549 ♪ 1086 00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:48,843 So that’s the cat skull. 1087 00:48:50,511 --> 00:48:54,098 (car horn honks) 1088 00:48:54,098 --> 00:48:56,392 The issue of there being cats in the environment 1089 00:48:56,392 --> 00:48:58,644 is one of the few, I think, 1090 00:48:58,644 --> 00:49:02,106 solvable environmental issues that we have. 1091 00:49:02,106 --> 00:49:03,524 And so it’s going to be up to us, 1092 00:49:03,524 --> 00:49:05,317 and that includes cat owners, 1093 00:49:05,317 --> 00:49:07,570 it’s going to include our shelter systems, 1094 00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:10,447 it’s going to include governments as well. 1095 00:49:10,447 --> 00:49:12,324 We all generally want the same thing. 1096 00:49:12,324 --> 00:49:14,410 We want what’s best for cats. 1097 00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:17,246 We want to reduce the number of cats that are outside, 1098 00:49:17,246 --> 00:49:18,539 and we want to reduce the impacts 1099 00:49:18,539 --> 00:49:20,374 that they have on the environment. 1100 00:49:20,374 --> 00:49:21,876 So, something’s happened here. It looks like the cat p. . 1101 00:49:21,876 --> 00:49:23,169 oop, yeah, it did. 1102 00:49:23,169 --> 00:49:27,298 There’s a chipmunk in its mouth. 1103 00:49:27,298 --> 00:49:29,842 And it’s dropped the chipmunk now. 1104 00:49:29,842 --> 00:49:32,720 So, there’s a few things we’re hoping to do with this work 1105 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,096 and maybe there’s guidelines 1106 00:49:34,096 --> 00:49:36,056 that we can come about from this study 1107 00:49:36,056 --> 00:49:37,725 that can help cat owners. 1108 00:49:37,725 --> 00:49:40,311 If they do feel they have to put their cat outside, 1109 00:49:40,311 --> 00:49:42,188 we can provide some guidelines on what’s best 1110 00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:44,732 for their cat. 1111 00:49:44,732 --> 00:49:46,233 -Hey, come on in. -Hello, how are you? 1112 00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:48,694 Good, come on in. 1113 00:49:48,694 --> 00:49:52,781 Okay, I’ll show you two videos here. 1114 00:49:52,781 --> 00:49:54,700 ♪ 1115 00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:56,202 So, I think he’s just in your yard. 1116 00:49:56,202 --> 00:49:58,037 Maybe he’s in someone else’s yard. 1117 00:49:58,037 --> 00:50:00,289 You see his head. 1118 00:50:00,289 --> 00:50:01,582 He’s doing something, he just caught something. 1119 00:50:01,582 --> 00:50:02,750 -Oh, oh! -Mouse. 1120 00:50:02,750 --> 00:50:05,753 No! Little critter. 1121 00:50:05,753 --> 00:50:07,004 So that’s in his jaws right now? 1122 00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:09,298 -That’s in his jaws. -Oh man. 1123 00:50:09,298 --> 00:50:10,966 Oh my gosh! 1124 00:50:10,966 --> 00:50:13,928 Yeah, so he actually captured stuff. 1125 00:50:13,928 --> 00:50:16,764 ♪ 1126 00:50:16,764 --> 00:50:19,016 Look what you’ve done. Are you proud of yourself? 1127 00:50:19,016 --> 00:50:22,436 ♪ 1128 00:50:22,436 --> 00:50:25,147 So, when I talk to cat owners, 1129 00:50:25,147 --> 00:50:27,691 I try to talk about whether a cat 1130 00:50:27,691 --> 00:50:31,028 should belong inside or if it should be outside. 1131 00:50:31,028 --> 00:50:33,364 And certainly, we know that when cats are outside, 1132 00:50:33,364 --> 00:50:34,949 they get more exercise. 1133 00:50:34,949 --> 00:50:38,619 But the risk to the cat of being outside, in my opinion, 1134 00:50:38,619 --> 00:50:41,288 is far greater than those benefits. 1135 00:50:41,288 --> 00:50:43,207 And what cat owners really care about 1136 00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:45,209 is their cats and their cats’ wellbeing. 1137 00:50:45,209 --> 00:50:47,586 ♪ 1138 00:50:47,586 --> 00:50:49,171 Comin’ out, bud? 1139 00:50:49,171 --> 00:50:50,714 (whistles) 1140 00:50:50,714 --> 00:50:57,680 ♪ 1141 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,723 Well, I think the public well understands 1142 00:50:59,723 --> 00:51:02,309 that cats sometimes kill other animals. 1143 00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:03,644 I mean, they’re predators 1144 00:51:03,644 --> 00:51:04,812 and that’s what they’re designed to do, 1145 00:51:04,812 --> 00:51:07,106 and cats are not malicious. . 1146 00:51:07,106 --> 00:51:09,149 or maybe they are in some cases. . 1147 00:51:09,149 --> 00:51:12,236 but, again, the problem is, there are just so many cats, 1148 00:51:12,236 --> 00:51:14,280 uh, and they’re so good at what they do, 1149 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,865 that, uh, literally, millions of birds 1150 00:51:16,865 --> 00:51:19,994 are being killed every year and they can least afford it. 1151 00:51:19,994 --> 00:51:22,621 We need to help these populations that are declining 1152 00:51:22,621 --> 00:51:25,416 because they’re really integral to our forest 1153 00:51:25,416 --> 00:51:27,334 and grassland ecosystems. 1154 00:51:27,334 --> 00:51:28,794 A healthy nature. 1155 00:51:28,794 --> 00:51:30,921 And somebody’s cat might bring back one bird 1156 00:51:30,921 --> 00:51:32,423 every couple of weeks and they think, 1157 00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:34,591 "Well, that’s too bad. Bad kitty. " 1158 00:51:34,591 --> 00:51:35,884 It’s not really a problem 1159 00:51:35,884 --> 00:51:38,387 until you count up how many cats there are. 1160 00:51:38,387 --> 00:51:41,265 And with millions of cats in Canada, that adds up. 1161 00:51:41,265 --> 00:51:43,892 That makes a huge difference. 1162 00:51:43,892 --> 00:51:46,353 That’s okay. Come on. 1163 00:51:46,353 --> 00:51:47,688 (mewing) 1164 00:51:50,149 --> 00:51:52,026 Yes, baby. Hi. 1165 00:51:52,026 --> 00:51:53,193 Yes. 1166 00:51:53,193 --> 00:51:56,322 I lost three babies recently. 1167 00:51:56,322 --> 00:52:00,117 One just never grew, he was like newborn size at two weeks old. 1168 00:52:00,117 --> 00:52:02,369 And the other one, she was born without a bladder. 1169 00:52:02,369 --> 00:52:05,039 So they had to euthanize her right there. 1170 00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:06,582 She was only four weeks old. 1171 00:52:06,582 --> 00:52:10,377 ♪ 1172 00:52:10,377 --> 00:52:12,796 Look at your little faces. 1173 00:52:12,796 --> 00:52:14,214 (soft mewing) 1174 00:52:14,214 --> 00:52:15,632 Are you nursin’ ’em? 1175 00:52:15,632 --> 00:52:18,510 I cry for a few days but then it’s. . move on, 1176 00:52:18,510 --> 00:52:20,846 ’cause I still had other ones to save, so. . 1177 00:52:20,846 --> 00:52:28,479 ♪ 1178 00:52:28,479 --> 00:52:32,649 These are my two foster babies, Indy and Ace. 1179 00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:37,488 They were being given away at four weeks old, 1180 00:52:37,488 --> 00:52:41,450 which is obviously too young, so I took them. 1181 00:52:41,450 --> 00:52:47,289 ♪ 1182 00:52:47,289 --> 00:52:49,792 -They are doing fine? -They’re doing good. 1183 00:52:49,792 --> 00:52:52,461 I had antibiotics ready but I didn’t need it. 1184 00:52:52,461 --> 00:52:53,629 Okay, good. 1185 00:52:53,629 --> 00:52:59,176 ♪ 1186 00:52:59,176 --> 00:53:00,469 -You did a good job. -Thank you. 1187 00:53:00,469 --> 00:53:02,513 -They are pretty big. -Yup. 1188 00:53:02,513 --> 00:53:05,057 So. . Okay, two pounds and a quarter. 1189 00:53:05,057 --> 00:53:09,311 ♪ 1190 00:53:09,311 --> 00:53:11,271 -She didn’t even know. -No, no, no. 1191 00:53:11,271 --> 00:53:12,398 ♪ 1192 00:53:12,398 --> 00:53:14,316 Mellissa, she’s well organized. 1193 00:53:14,316 --> 00:53:15,984 ♪ 1194 00:53:15,984 --> 00:53:18,612 It’s not everybody that can deal with orphans. 1195 00:53:18,612 --> 00:53:21,698 ♪ 1196 00:53:21,698 --> 00:53:26,161 Giving is good, giving your time with the animal is good, 1197 00:53:26,161 --> 00:53:28,914 but you have to realize that you have 1198 00:53:28,914 --> 00:53:34,253 a certain limit because. . 1199 00:53:34,253 --> 00:53:36,255 you can get lost. 1200 00:53:36,255 --> 00:53:38,507 (cats meowing) 1201 00:53:38,507 --> 00:53:42,761 ♪ 1202 00:53:42,761 --> 00:53:44,972 Okay, so this is both certificates. 1203 00:53:44,972 --> 00:53:47,975 -Okay, thank you. -You’re welcome. 1204 00:53:47,975 --> 00:53:57,901 ♪ 1205 00:54:00,195 --> 00:54:02,281 Most of us see a roaming cat as a nuisance 1206 00:54:02,281 --> 00:54:04,283 that defecates in our garden bed, 1207 00:54:04,283 --> 00:54:06,160 it mates at one o’clock in the morning 1208 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,829 in the middle of the street, that’s the level of our concern. 1209 00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:13,834 But cats do impact negatively on our environment. 1210 00:54:13,834 --> 00:54:17,212 The only humane way to deal with the cat population 1211 00:54:17,212 --> 00:54:19,548 is through spay and neutering them. 1212 00:54:19,548 --> 00:54:22,426 Without it, it’s totally uncontrolled. 1213 00:54:22,426 --> 00:54:24,136 And my feeling was 1214 00:54:24,136 --> 00:54:28,390 that people expected something to be done about it. 1215 00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:31,894 So we conducted a survey basically saying, 1216 00:54:31,894 --> 00:54:34,563 what do you think about it, what a bylaw might look like? 1217 00:54:34,563 --> 00:54:36,398 ♪ 1218 00:54:36,398 --> 00:54:39,693 One of the leading questions, of course, was 1219 00:54:39,693 --> 00:54:42,446 do you think we have a cat overpopulation problem 1220 00:54:42,446 --> 00:54:45,949 in Cornwall and that something needs to be done about it? 1221 00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:47,826 Bestow ownership on individuals, 1222 00:54:47,826 --> 00:54:50,412 require that all cats be kept indoors unless supervised, 1223 00:54:50,412 --> 00:54:53,373 limit the number of cats in the household to two. 1224 00:54:53,373 --> 00:54:55,792 Very important, of course, to have community input. 1225 00:54:55,792 --> 00:55:05,719 ♪ 1226 00:55:10,224 --> 00:55:11,892 We’ve been affected by it. 1227 00:55:11,892 --> 00:55:14,353 It’s quite an ongoing issue. 1228 00:55:14,353 --> 00:55:17,397 It’s getting out of control, that’s for sure. 1229 00:55:17,397 --> 00:55:19,316 We have to do something about it. 1230 00:55:19,316 --> 00:55:20,817 ♪ 1231 00:55:20,817 --> 00:55:26,156 We were simply surprised at the level of response 1232 00:55:26,156 --> 00:55:28,534 to a cat problem. 1233 00:55:28,534 --> 00:55:37,125 ♪ 1234 00:55:37,125 --> 00:55:38,919 This is not my neighbor’s problem, 1235 00:55:38,919 --> 00:55:40,379 this is not my problem, 1236 00:55:40,379 --> 00:55:42,839 this is the entire community’s problem 1237 00:55:42,839 --> 00:55:44,508 and it’s not going to go away. 1238 00:55:44,508 --> 00:55:48,428 We have to accept that something has to be done about it 1239 00:55:48,428 --> 00:55:51,765 and there’s probably going to be a cost to that. 1240 00:55:51,765 --> 00:55:55,394 What I recommended to council is that in the 2020 budget 1241 00:55:55,394 --> 00:55:59,982 we allocate $40,000 to subsidizing the cost 1242 00:55:59,982 --> 00:56:01,358 of spay and neutering. 1243 00:56:01,358 --> 00:56:03,026 That’s a start. 1244 00:56:03,026 --> 00:56:11,535 ♪ 1245 00:56:11,535 --> 00:56:14,329 The bylaw that Chris wants to try and get through, 1246 00:56:14,329 --> 00:56:15,872 "If you feed it, you own it," 1247 00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:17,541 that is scaring people. 1248 00:56:17,541 --> 00:56:19,167 I don’t want people to be scared 1249 00:56:19,167 --> 00:56:20,377 and I don’t want people to say, 1250 00:56:20,377 --> 00:56:21,878 "Oh Lord, there’s a cat out there, 1251 00:56:21,878 --> 00:56:23,630 we can’t be responsible for it. " 1252 00:56:23,630 --> 00:56:33,432 ♪ 1253 00:56:33,432 --> 00:56:36,310 The fact that somebody has enough charity 1254 00:56:36,310 --> 00:56:40,856 to give an animal a little better chance to survive 1255 00:56:40,856 --> 00:56:44,318 means you own them is a strange one, 1256 00:56:44,318 --> 00:56:46,778 as far as I’m concerned. 1257 00:56:46,778 --> 00:56:51,617 It goes along with the idea that if you give somebody some money 1258 00:56:51,617 --> 00:56:55,120 when they’re begging that you own that person. 1259 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,247 Makes just as much sense. 1260 00:56:57,247 --> 00:57:00,626 ♪ 1261 00:57:00,626 --> 00:57:03,045 People like Lynda, she’s going to take care of them, 1262 00:57:03,045 --> 00:57:06,590 and even if the bylaw passes many people are still going to. 1263 00:57:06,590 --> 00:57:08,216 They don’t want to see the cats suffer, 1264 00:57:08,216 --> 00:57:10,302 so I don’t blame them. 1265 00:57:12,179 --> 00:57:15,307 Simply feeding a cat, absolutely, that’s important. 1266 00:57:15,307 --> 00:57:17,351 But if that cat is not spayed and neutered, 1267 00:57:17,351 --> 00:57:19,811 it’s fueling a cat population 1268 00:57:19,811 --> 00:57:22,564 that we’re trying to get under control. 1269 00:57:22,564 --> 00:57:24,274 I should just put it down here. 1270 00:57:26,193 --> 00:57:27,986 (bird chirping) 1271 00:57:27,986 --> 00:57:31,031 (hum of passing traffic) 1272 00:57:31,031 --> 00:57:33,700 ♪ 1273 00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:35,118 The city of Cornwall could become 1274 00:57:35,118 --> 00:57:36,953 the first municipality in Ontario 1275 00:57:36,953 --> 00:57:39,665 to require cats to be kept indoors. 1276 00:57:39,665 --> 00:57:42,209 City staff are proposing a cat bylaw 1277 00:57:42,209 --> 00:57:43,794 with a number of suggestions: 1278 00:57:43,794 --> 00:57:46,254 all cats must be spayed and neutered, 1279 00:57:46,254 --> 00:57:48,465 felines must be kept indoors, 1280 00:57:48,465 --> 00:57:51,927 and most extreme, anybody who feeds a stray cat 1281 00:57:51,927 --> 00:57:54,054 legally becomes its owner. 1282 00:57:54,054 --> 00:57:57,808 But that report came out in May and nothing has happened since. 1283 00:57:57,808 --> 00:58:00,143 (giggling) 1284 00:58:00,143 --> 00:58:01,812 You feel sleepy? 1285 00:58:01,812 --> 00:58:03,397 (kittens mewing) 1286 00:58:03,397 --> 00:58:05,816 We’ve gone through a whole kitten season 1287 00:58:05,816 --> 00:58:07,067 and there’s still no money in the budget, 1288 00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:09,319 so it is frustrating. 1289 00:58:09,319 --> 00:58:12,239 There’s the purring. Good girl. 1290 00:58:14,533 --> 00:58:16,576 But hopefully moving forward, 1291 00:58:16,576 --> 00:58:19,579 there will be more help for kittens like them 1292 00:58:19,579 --> 00:58:21,498 because I can’t keep up. 1293 00:58:21,498 --> 00:58:23,125 (mewing) 1294 00:58:24,876 --> 00:58:27,421 (hum of passing traffic) 1295 00:58:27,421 --> 00:58:29,047 How are the cats? 1296 00:58:29,047 --> 00:58:30,757 ♪ 1297 00:58:30,757 --> 00:58:32,134 The weather’s getting better, 1298 00:58:32,134 --> 00:58:35,595 they were wandering a little bit more. 1299 00:58:35,595 --> 00:58:37,389 Then Guimauve disappeared. 1300 00:58:37,389 --> 00:58:39,057 ♪ 1301 00:58:39,057 --> 00:58:43,228 He was here, he ate his evening meal with the rest of them. 1302 00:58:43,228 --> 00:58:45,063 Spencer and Guimave, I have a picture 1303 00:58:45,063 --> 00:58:47,190 of the two of them snuggled up together 1304 00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:49,609 and then that was it, Guimauve didn’t come back. 1305 00:58:49,609 --> 00:58:51,319 ♪ 1306 00:58:51,319 --> 00:58:53,739 I know he’s not lost in the area 1307 00:58:53,739 --> 00:58:56,825 because he had such a strong tie to that porch. 1308 00:58:56,825 --> 00:58:59,953 And I think Guimauve, his stomach told him where to go 1309 00:58:59,953 --> 00:59:03,123 and a trap that’s set will have food. 1310 00:59:03,123 --> 00:59:08,920 ♪ 1311 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,339 I did some looking around. 1312 00:59:11,339 --> 00:59:13,884 There’s three neighbors that have traps here. 1313 00:59:13,884 --> 00:59:16,303 ♪ 1314 00:59:16,303 --> 00:59:18,013 When I ask them, they won’t answer, 1315 00:59:18,013 --> 00:59:21,475 so that’s difficult, knowing that somebody probably 1316 00:59:21,475 --> 00:59:23,059 has done something. 1317 00:59:23,059 --> 00:59:24,770 ♪ 1318 00:59:24,770 --> 00:59:26,980 My neighbors were aware what I was doing. 1319 00:59:26,980 --> 00:59:28,815 ♪ 1320 00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:31,693 There’s a lot of people that just aren’t on board. 1321 00:59:31,693 --> 00:59:33,028 It was really tragic. 1322 00:59:33,028 --> 00:59:35,030 ♪ 1323 00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:37,949 Spencer spent about three or four days wandering around, 1324 00:59:37,949 --> 00:59:39,451 crying, looking for Guimauve, 1325 00:59:39,451 --> 00:59:41,077 they were really close. 1326 00:59:41,077 --> 00:59:43,371 ♪ 1327 00:59:43,371 --> 00:59:45,081 They have souls. 1328 00:59:45,081 --> 00:59:47,876 They can’t think like humans, but they have souls. 1329 00:59:47,876 --> 00:59:49,419 So you do feel responsible, 1330 00:59:49,419 --> 00:59:52,172 that it was my duty to keep them safe. 1331 00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:54,382 But there’s no boundaries for feral cats. 1332 00:59:54,382 --> 00:59:58,053 ♪ 1333 00:59:58,053 --> 01:00:00,472 (wind blowing, birds chirping) 1334 01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:15,153 ♪ 1335 01:00:15,153 --> 01:00:16,863 It’s pretty worldwide now. 1336 01:00:16,863 --> 01:00:19,699 I have people from all over following, which is crazy. 1337 01:00:19,699 --> 01:00:23,286 ♪ 1338 01:00:23,286 --> 01:00:26,206 If nobody ever talked about it, we wouldn’t make progress. 1339 01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:28,542 So, I’m glad that people are starting to realize 1340 01:00:28,542 --> 01:00:30,126 that we have a problem 1341 01:00:30,126 --> 01:00:31,753 and they’re going to have to do something. 1342 01:00:31,753 --> 01:00:34,297 ♪ 1343 01:00:34,297 --> 01:00:38,093 (wind blowing) 1344 01:00:38,093 --> 01:00:42,305 (thunder rumbling) 1345 01:00:42,305 --> 01:00:44,683 -I’m hot. -Anybody gonna come and join us? 1346 01:00:44,683 --> 01:00:48,728 (thunder rumbling) 1347 01:00:48,728 --> 01:00:50,438 Okay, let’s move. . wanna move over, 1348 01:00:50,438 --> 01:00:52,315 so we’re not blocking. 1349 01:00:52,315 --> 01:00:55,110 Stand right in front of the doorway. 1350 01:00:55,110 --> 01:00:56,778 Is your sign waterproof? 1351 01:00:56,778 --> 01:00:58,363 I have no idea. 1352 01:00:58,363 --> 01:01:00,115 ♪ 1353 01:01:00,115 --> 01:01:01,867 (car horn honks, woman yells) 1354 01:01:01,867 --> 01:01:03,702 Hey, maybe. . 1355 01:01:03,702 --> 01:01:05,620 We have people. 1356 01:01:05,620 --> 01:01:06,705 Over there. 1357 01:01:06,705 --> 01:01:07,956 (car horns honking) 1358 01:01:07,956 --> 01:01:09,416 I don’t know them. 1359 01:01:09,416 --> 01:01:10,625 -Are they with us? -Yeah. 1360 01:01:10,625 --> 01:01:12,043 -Really? -I think so. 1361 01:01:12,043 --> 01:01:13,461 Thank you! 1362 01:01:13,461 --> 01:01:15,005 (car horns honking) 1363 01:01:15,005 --> 01:01:16,548 ♪ 1364 01:01:16,548 --> 01:01:20,010 (car horns honking, people cheering) 1365 01:01:20,010 --> 01:01:22,012 Hi, I’m Mellissa. Nice to meet you. 1366 01:01:22,012 --> 01:01:23,763 -Hi, Mellissa. -Thanks for coming, guys. 1367 01:01:23,763 --> 01:01:25,056 You’re so welcome. 1368 01:01:25,056 --> 01:01:26,808 -Love all your signs. -Thank you! 1369 01:01:26,808 --> 01:01:29,811 -Very nice, wow. -Yours are waterproof. 1370 01:01:29,811 --> 01:01:31,897 (laughter) 1371 01:01:31,897 --> 01:01:33,815 Thanks so much for everything you do, by the way. 1372 01:01:33,815 --> 01:01:36,234 I follow the page like a crazy person. 1373 01:01:36,234 --> 01:01:37,611 (overlapping chatter) 1374 01:01:37,611 --> 01:01:40,405 -This is good. -I know, I wanna get a picture. 1375 01:01:40,405 --> 01:01:43,158 (car horns honking, cheering) 1376 01:01:43,158 --> 01:01:45,493 Let’s get started. Sorry for the delay. 1377 01:01:45,493 --> 01:01:49,289 It’s nice to have a full council chamber. 1378 01:01:49,289 --> 01:01:50,957 The recommendation is that council 1379 01:01:50,957 --> 01:01:52,792 implement a cat control bylaw 1380 01:01:52,792 --> 01:01:54,753 vitally supported by funding, 1381 01:01:54,753 --> 01:01:56,421 in support of a five-year timeline 1382 01:01:56,421 --> 01:01:59,591 in which all owned cats are to be desexed. 1383 01:01:59,591 --> 01:02:02,260 Councillor Grant, you’re seconding. 1384 01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:03,261 Debate. 1385 01:02:03,261 --> 01:02:05,013 So, Your Worship, 1386 01:02:05,013 --> 01:02:08,558 I’m not completely convinced we can necessarily implement 1387 01:02:08,558 --> 01:02:10,185 all these regulations. 1388 01:02:10,185 --> 01:02:14,272 How do we realistically expect to enforce 1389 01:02:14,272 --> 01:02:16,399 some of these provisions? 1390 01:02:16,399 --> 01:02:19,194 I mean, to say, "All cats have to be kept indoors. " 1391 01:02:19,194 --> 01:02:22,530 Well, if there’s a random cat wandering the neighborhood, 1392 01:02:22,530 --> 01:02:25,700 how do we know who officially owns that cat? 1393 01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:28,078 Are we going to give this person a ticket? 1394 01:02:28,078 --> 01:02:29,913 Through you, Madam Mayor, that’s why it’s vital 1395 01:02:29,913 --> 01:02:31,456 that cats be licensed. 1396 01:02:31,456 --> 01:02:33,667 So, hopefully, that cat that is roaming 1397 01:02:33,667 --> 01:02:37,128 can be linked to its owner by virtue of a tag. 1398 01:02:37,128 --> 01:02:38,672 Okay, thank you. 1399 01:02:38,672 --> 01:02:40,799 Councillor Bergeron and then Councillor Grant. 1400 01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:42,008 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 1401 01:02:42,008 --> 01:02:44,344 So, when you say cats must be kept inside, 1402 01:02:44,344 --> 01:02:47,305 as long as they were controlled in their own yard, 1403 01:02:47,305 --> 01:02:49,641 would you accept that, or. . 1404 01:02:49,641 --> 01:02:52,978 So, it’s really about ensuring that once a cat is outside 1405 01:02:52,978 --> 01:02:54,521 that it’s supervised. 1406 01:02:54,521 --> 01:02:55,897 Yes, yeah. 1407 01:02:55,897 --> 01:02:58,942 One thing I want to think about is long term 1408 01:02:58,942 --> 01:03:00,777 and if everybody’s religious in this 1409 01:03:00,777 --> 01:03:03,196 we won’t have a cat problem because we won’t have any cats. 1410 01:03:03,196 --> 01:03:04,614 (crowd murmuring) 1411 01:03:04,614 --> 01:03:07,117 When you think about it, so, I mean. . 1412 01:03:07,117 --> 01:03:09,327 Through you, Madam Mayor, no bylaw 1413 01:03:09,327 --> 01:03:11,287 is a hundred percent enforceable. 1414 01:03:11,287 --> 01:03:13,707 There’s a speed limit out here, in front of this building, 1415 01:03:13,707 --> 01:03:15,792 it’s 50 kilometers an hour. 1416 01:03:15,792 --> 01:03:18,086 Uh, I’m sure if I asked everyone in this room 1417 01:03:18,086 --> 01:03:20,463 if they have exceeded that 50 miles an hour, 1418 01:03:20,463 --> 01:03:22,173 if they were honest, they’d say yes. 1419 01:03:22,173 --> 01:03:24,592 Bylaws, they build expectation 1420 01:03:24,592 --> 01:03:27,762 and certainly, there’s that carrot that says, 1421 01:03:27,762 --> 01:03:30,932 "Oh, if you don’t live up to that expectation, 1422 01:03:30,932 --> 01:03:34,227 there could be punitive repercussions. " 1423 01:03:34,227 --> 01:03:36,479 I live in the West End, and I don’t. . 1424 01:03:36,479 --> 01:03:39,524 we don’t have a roaming cat problem, that I know. 1425 01:03:39,524 --> 01:03:41,693 Yes, you do. Yes, you do. 1426 01:03:41,693 --> 01:03:43,445 Is there an area in town that’s more concentrated 1427 01:03:43,445 --> 01:03:47,532 and is more concerned where this bylaw would really be effective? 1428 01:03:47,532 --> 01:03:49,367 This has been going on since, 1429 01:03:49,367 --> 01:03:52,829 I think I was in council 15 years ago 1430 01:03:52,829 --> 01:03:54,831 and we were talking about feral cats then. 1431 01:03:54,831 --> 01:03:56,791 Something has to be done, 1432 01:03:56,791 --> 01:03:59,711 and we’re going to do it tonight. 1433 01:03:59,711 --> 01:04:03,506 So I’m going to call the vote. 1434 01:04:03,506 --> 01:04:04,716 All in favor? 1435 01:04:04,716 --> 01:04:06,176 (crowd murmuring) 1436 01:04:06,176 --> 01:04:07,802 Carried. 1437 01:04:07,802 --> 01:04:09,095 Thank you. 1438 01:04:09,095 --> 01:04:10,722 (applause, cheering) 1439 01:04:10,722 --> 01:04:12,432 (chatter) 1440 01:04:12,432 --> 01:04:13,641 We did it! 1441 01:04:13,641 --> 01:04:14,809 -We did it. -We did it. 1442 01:04:14,809 --> 01:04:15,977 -So far. -Yeah. 1443 01:04:15,977 --> 01:04:17,896 We still have progress to make. 1444 01:04:17,896 --> 01:04:19,814 We can’t, there’s no way it’s going backwards now. 1445 01:04:19,814 --> 01:04:21,232 No, there’s just no way. 1446 01:04:21,232 --> 01:04:23,068 They can’t now. 1447 01:04:23,068 --> 01:04:25,904 If it’s a five-year plan, that’s still really long. 1448 01:04:25,904 --> 01:04:29,115 That’s a lot of kittens that could be born in five years. 1449 01:04:29,115 --> 01:04:32,869 But five years is still better than zero years. 1450 01:04:32,869 --> 01:04:34,996 Like, at least we’re moving forward. 1451 01:04:34,996 --> 01:04:37,332 And finally, they’re going to do something about it. 1452 01:04:37,332 --> 01:04:40,085 A lot of them don’t agree on the "Feed it, you own it" bylaw, 1453 01:04:40,085 --> 01:04:43,171 which I don’t either, but that’s one of the problems. 1454 01:04:43,171 --> 01:04:45,799 We’ll figure it out over the years and we’ll iron it out. 1455 01:04:45,799 --> 01:04:47,550 ♪ 1456 01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:49,928 The lifespan of cats is much shorter 1457 01:04:49,928 --> 01:04:52,222 if you have them as outdoor cats, 1458 01:04:52,222 --> 01:04:54,682 and yet some cat owners still believe, 1459 01:04:54,682 --> 01:04:57,685 "My cat will be unhappy if it’s indoors, 1460 01:04:57,685 --> 01:05:00,021 so I’d rather let it outside where it’s dangerous. " 1461 01:05:00,021 --> 01:05:04,067 ♪ 1462 01:05:04,067 --> 01:05:05,985 I mean, humans are smart, 1463 01:05:05,985 --> 01:05:09,322 but at the same time, they’re very simpleminded 1464 01:05:09,322 --> 01:05:11,866 because it’s an easy fix 1465 01:05:11,866 --> 01:05:15,370 to encourage people to keep their cats indoors. 1466 01:05:15,370 --> 01:05:17,789 It’s harder to put the forest back. 1467 01:05:17,789 --> 01:05:25,463 ♪ 1468 01:05:25,463 --> 01:05:28,299 Mellissa Alepins and Mary Jane Proulx. 1469 01:05:28,299 --> 01:05:29,676 Extraordinary people, 1470 01:05:29,676 --> 01:05:32,679 extraordinarily compassionate, caring, 1471 01:05:32,679 --> 01:05:36,391 and, you know, not expecting any sort of acknowledgement for it. 1472 01:05:36,391 --> 01:05:40,728 Just doing it out of sheer compassion and caring. 1473 01:05:40,728 --> 01:05:43,773 After all, we domesticated these animals, right? 1474 01:05:43,773 --> 01:05:45,608 They can no longer look after themselves. 1475 01:05:45,608 --> 01:05:48,027 ♪ 1476 01:05:48,027 --> 01:05:49,988 I guess at this point, we’re just waiting to see 1477 01:05:49,988 --> 01:05:52,866 when they’re gonna actually make the money official 1478 01:05:52,866 --> 01:05:55,577 and then pass the bylaws. 1479 01:05:55,577 --> 01:05:57,662 I’ll probably do this forever. 1480 01:05:57,662 --> 01:06:01,207 I love it, so in that sense, it’s good that there’s no end, 1481 01:06:01,207 --> 01:06:03,626 but it’s really sad because these are generally orphans 1482 01:06:03,626 --> 01:06:06,337 that I take, so they don’t have a mom. 1483 01:06:06,337 --> 01:06:08,965 And it took us, Mellissa and I, to fight this hard. 1484 01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:11,467 We had to have protests and we had to fight, 1485 01:06:11,467 --> 01:06:13,761 and I had to run for council. 1486 01:06:13,761 --> 01:06:16,306 Like run for council, me run for council? Come on. 1487 01:06:16,306 --> 01:06:19,267 ♪ 1488 01:06:19,267 --> 01:06:21,603 It pays to fight. It really does. 1489 01:06:21,603 --> 01:06:23,771 If you have a passion and if you believe 1490 01:06:23,771 --> 01:06:26,316 you’re doing the right thing, do it. 1491 01:06:26,316 --> 01:06:28,985 ♪ 1492 01:06:28,985 --> 01:06:31,404 A cat can have thousands of babies 1493 01:06:31,404 --> 01:06:32,864 and then their babies have babies 1494 01:06:32,864 --> 01:06:34,824 and then their babies have babies. 1495 01:06:34,824 --> 01:06:36,159 It just never ends. 1496 01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:38,244 ♪ 1497 01:06:38,244 --> 01:06:39,662 Never ends. 1498 01:06:39,662 --> 01:06:49,589 ♪ 1499 01:07:19,118 --> 01:07:20,787 (cat meowing) 1500 01:07:24,624 --> 01:07:34,550 ♪ 1501 01:08:36,112 --> 01:08:39,115 ♪ 99836

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