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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,713 --> 00:00:06,506 [Paola]                      Smugglers in the Caribbean 2 00:00:06,548 --> 00:00:08,466 have been trafficking migrants              from the islands 3 00:00:08,508 --> 00:00:10,343 into the U.S. for generations. 4 00:00:14,639 --> 00:00:16,474 [Paola]   They're not only             just doing it for the money 5 00:00:16,516 --> 00:00:17,976 but also because they can                get away with it. 6 00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:19,686 I can't speculate as            to what's in a smuggler's head, 7 00:00:19,728 --> 00:00:21,354 and we're gonna do our best                  to stop them. 8 00:00:21,396 --> 00:00:23,106 [Paola]   Do you think                   they have any clue? 9 00:00:24,899 --> 00:00:26,317 [Dexter]                       When the police tell you 10 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:27,527 you're gonna be                     held responsible 11 00:00:27,569 --> 00:00:28,695 for the death of A'Donte, 12 00:00:28,737 --> 00:00:29,821 what was going through                     your mind? 13 00:00:34,117 --> 00:00:36,745 This is all because            of a rule called felony murder. 14 00:00:36,786 --> 00:00:39,539 If someone dies while              a felony's being committed, 15 00:00:39,581 --> 00:00:41,249 then everyone who was involved               in that felony 16 00:00:41,291 --> 00:00:43,043 can be held responsible. 17 00:00:43,084 --> 00:00:44,878 What did you think was an         appropriate punishment for him? 18 00:00:44,919 --> 00:00:46,546 Burglary. 19 00:00:46,588 --> 00:00:48,590 It may not be                       your child today, 20 00:00:48,631 --> 00:00:50,258 but tomorrow                     it can very well be. 21 00:00:50,300 --> 00:00:53,219 dramatic music 22 00:01:04,606 --> 00:01:06,399 [people shouting] 23 00:01:40,140 --> 00:01:41,601 [Paola]                      Off the coast of Florida, 24 00:01:41,643 --> 00:01:43,144 U.S. law enforcement                      authorities 25 00:01:43,186 --> 00:01:45,772 are constantly chasing                 modern-day pirates, 26 00:01:45,814 --> 00:01:48,775 smugglers bringing migrants            in the country illegally. 27 00:01:48,817 --> 00:01:50,985 This onslaught of boats                      is coming 28 00:01:51,027 --> 00:01:53,780 from all over the Caribbean,           but the best launch point 29 00:01:53,822 --> 00:01:56,448 lies just 50 miles off                    Miami's coast. 30 00:01:56,491 --> 00:01:58,284 The island of Bimini                     in the Bahamas 31 00:01:58,326 --> 00:02:01,204 is what's known as                 the gateway to America, 32 00:02:01,246 --> 00:02:03,414 a mere two-hour trip by boat. 33 00:02:08,336 --> 00:02:09,629 Under the cover of night, 34 00:02:09,671 --> 00:02:11,631 clandestine launches                     like this one, 35 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:14,217 filmed earlier this summer             from an abandoned pier, 36 00:02:14,259 --> 00:02:15,969 show the beginning                       of the quiet 37 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:18,471 and often                       successful operations. 38 00:02:38,491 --> 00:02:40,660 We later learned                  that these four migrants 39 00:02:40,702 --> 00:02:42,829 made it safely                    to the United States. 40 00:02:42,871 --> 00:02:44,330 [boat engine revving] 41 00:02:44,372 --> 00:02:47,041 But that's not always                       the case. 42 00:02:47,083 --> 00:02:48,668 [reporter]                   A stunning site on the water, 43 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:51,546 when a boat leads police                  on a wild chase. 44 00:02:51,588 --> 00:02:53,173 On board, a group of migrants 45 00:02:53,214 --> 00:02:55,341 trying to make it                     to South Florida. 46 00:02:55,383 --> 00:02:58,178 [officer] They are now             crashing into the sea wall. 47 00:02:58,219 --> 00:02:59,721 [Paola]                      Smugglers in the Caribbean 48 00:02:59,762 --> 00:03:01,598 have been trafficking migrants              from the island 49 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,892 into the U.S.                        for generations, 50 00:03:03,933 --> 00:03:06,644 dodging both Bahamian                 and U.S. authorities. 51 00:03:06,686 --> 00:03:08,479 But with                       an increased crackdown 52 00:03:08,521 --> 00:03:11,608 along the U.S.-Mexico border            over the past two years, 53 00:03:11,649 --> 00:03:14,027 the numbers here                       have exploded. 54 00:03:14,068 --> 00:03:16,362 The U.S. Coast Guard says                   it has stopped 55 00:03:16,404 --> 00:03:19,198 four times as many migrants               from Cuba and Haiti 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,368 since October                     than all of last year. 57 00:03:25,412 --> 00:03:26,539 [smuggler]                        They can't stop it. 58 00:03:26,581 --> 00:03:28,333 They only can slow it down. 59 00:03:28,374 --> 00:03:30,210 When you see boats moving                  in the night, 60 00:03:30,251 --> 00:03:31,878 they're not going fishing. 61 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:34,631 [Paola]   We were able to make             contact with a smuggler. 62 00:03:34,672 --> 00:03:37,550 He arranges and executes           illegal crossings to Florida, 63 00:03:37,592 --> 00:03:39,219 usually at night. 64 00:03:39,260 --> 00:03:41,888 We agreed not to show              his face or reveal his name. 65 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:44,140 What do you use to navigate                   at night? 66 00:03:44,182 --> 00:03:45,433 My eyes. 67 00:03:45,475 --> 00:03:46,893 [Paola]                         Do you use a GPS? 68 00:03:46,934 --> 00:03:48,561 Not really,                  'cause GPS gets you caught. 69 00:03:48,602 --> 00:03:50,438 -Do you use lights?                         -No. 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:51,898 So you use your eyes?                     That's it. 71 00:03:51,940 --> 00:03:53,900 [smuggler] Yeah.                I can run off the compass. 72 00:03:53,942 --> 00:03:56,069 Like, I know exactly what star                to look for. 73 00:03:56,110 --> 00:03:57,612 Like, see,                     y'all can't see it now, 74 00:03:57,654 --> 00:03:59,072 because the Moon is out, 75 00:03:59,113 --> 00:04:00,823 but the Big Dipper's                     right there. 76 00:04:00,865 --> 00:04:03,117 And the Big Dipper sits             really close to the Moon. 77 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:05,161 -[Paola] Yeah.                  -So you can basically run 78 00:04:05,203 --> 00:04:07,497 and just keep the Moon in          the middle of the Big Dipper. 79 00:04:07,538 --> 00:04:09,290 You can't miss it. 80 00:04:09,332 --> 00:04:12,877 At this point, how many runs        do you think you've done total? 81 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:14,254 Put it like this-- 82 00:04:14,295 --> 00:04:18,049 I've been running              for over 22 years by myself. 83 00:04:18,091 --> 00:04:21,010 Prior to that, I was doing it               with my uncles 84 00:04:21,052 --> 00:04:22,845 and, like, older cousins. 85 00:04:22,887 --> 00:04:26,349 How much does each migrant                   have to pay 86 00:04:26,391 --> 00:04:28,101 in order to get                 into one of these boats? 87 00:04:28,142 --> 00:04:31,354 A Haitian will pay,                     like, 4,500. 88 00:04:31,396 --> 00:04:34,899 A Jamaican will pay, like,                  4,500, 6,500. 89 00:04:34,941 --> 00:04:38,403 And say, like,               we like to say "white people," 90 00:04:38,444 --> 00:04:41,281 they're spending, like,                12 grand, 16 grand, 91 00:04:41,322 --> 00:04:43,449 sometimes almost 20 grand                   per person. 92 00:04:43,491 --> 00:04:46,119 Now, when you get                    into that level, 93 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,454 you're not just dropping off--             you're delivering. 94 00:04:48,496 --> 00:04:51,624 So it's, like--                    let's say Chinese. 95 00:04:51,666 --> 00:04:53,793 You don't drop Chinese off                  on the beach. 96 00:04:53,835 --> 00:04:56,421 Somebody has to be there                 to pick them up, 97 00:04:56,462 --> 00:04:58,298 and then they store them                  somewhere else. 98 00:04:58,339 --> 00:05:00,091 And then                     the Chinese people come, 99 00:05:00,133 --> 00:05:02,844 and then they pay you more,        and then they get their people. 100 00:05:02,885 --> 00:05:05,263 I imagine not everyone                  has a life vest. 101 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:08,099 [smuggler] Nah, not everybody,            sometimes nobody--me. 102 00:05:08,141 --> 00:05:10,810 [Paola] And in the course             of that hour and a half 103 00:05:10,852 --> 00:05:13,980 that it takes you to get there,      how are the migrants feeling? 104 00:05:14,022 --> 00:05:16,399 [smuggler] It's normally be         a lot of praying and talking, 105 00:05:16,441 --> 00:05:18,401 and you don't know              what the hell they be saying. 106 00:05:18,443 --> 00:05:20,445 So I just normally be telling                 everybody, 107 00:05:20,486 --> 00:05:23,197 "Stop praying. Stop talking.          Do that shit in your head." 108 00:05:23,239 --> 00:05:26,075 [Paola]   Bimini smugglers                   don't need faith 109 00:05:26,117 --> 00:05:27,493 to make the crossing. 110 00:05:27,535 --> 00:05:30,079 Piracy is in their blood. 111 00:05:30,121 --> 00:05:34,167 In the 1600 and 1700s             pirates like Sir Francis Drake 112 00:05:34,208 --> 00:05:37,128 and Blackbeard used the            island's proximity to the U.S. 113 00:05:37,170 --> 00:05:39,422 to hide treasures                  and capture their prey. 114 00:05:39,464 --> 00:05:41,507 In more recent history, 115 00:05:41,549 --> 00:05:44,469 smugglers transported cocaine           during the crack epidemic 116 00:05:44,510 --> 00:05:46,346 and booze                       on boats like this one 117 00:05:46,387 --> 00:05:48,348 during Prohibition. 118 00:05:48,389 --> 00:05:51,809 Today human trafficking             is their business of choice. 119 00:05:51,851 --> 00:05:54,145 It can be more lucrative                 than moving drugs 120 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:56,022 and carries lighter sentences. 121 00:05:56,064 --> 00:05:59,567 So what makes the difference        between a successful operation 122 00:05:59,609 --> 00:06:00,943 and an operation that fails? 123 00:06:00,985 --> 00:06:03,237 You just got to go              out there and figure it out. 124 00:06:03,278 --> 00:06:05,782 If you don't leave two o'clock,        you're gonna get caught, 125 00:06:05,823 --> 00:06:07,450 because by the time                that you get to Miami, 126 00:06:07,492 --> 00:06:08,743 it's gonna be daytime. 127 00:06:08,785 --> 00:06:11,954 So the drone, the jet,                   and the chopper 128 00:06:11,996 --> 00:06:14,207 know exactly                   what they're looking for. 129 00:06:14,248 --> 00:06:16,709 But in the night, you can just        drop them off on the beach. 130 00:06:16,751 --> 00:06:17,835 Every boat looks white. 131 00:06:22,924 --> 00:06:25,510 [Paola]   Despite all              their technology and manpower, 132 00:06:25,551 --> 00:06:27,970 the American Coast Guard                is still struggling 133 00:06:28,012 --> 00:06:30,014 to stay one step                       ahead of them. 134 00:06:30,056 --> 00:06:31,599 [Benjamin]   It's an ongoing             cat-and-mouse game, right? 135 00:06:31,641 --> 00:06:33,643 That's the nature                  of criminal networks, 136 00:06:33,684 --> 00:06:35,144 and that's the nature                 of law enforcement. 137 00:06:35,186 --> 00:06:36,896 But many                     do still get away, right? 138 00:06:36,938 --> 00:06:38,689 I mean, we were there, 139 00:06:38,731 --> 00:06:41,859 and we were able to talk           to some smugglers in Bimini, 140 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:43,736 who told us that they're not              only just doing it 141 00:06:43,778 --> 00:06:45,905 for the money but also because         they can get away with it. 142 00:06:45,947 --> 00:06:47,824 I'd love if you'd give me                  those names. 143 00:06:47,865 --> 00:06:49,909 -That'd be great.             -Why don't you have the names? 144 00:06:49,951 --> 00:06:52,578 [person] All right, so we work       with the Bahamian authorities. 145 00:06:52,620 --> 00:06:54,872 -Great.                        -We can't get into 146 00:06:54,914 --> 00:06:56,666 as in depth as you're trying               to get with us... 147 00:06:56,707 --> 00:06:57,708 -[Paola] Okay.                    -...because we're not 148 00:06:57,750 --> 00:06:59,502 the people on land                     in the Bahamas 149 00:06:59,544 --> 00:07:00,795 -[Paola] Yeah, and...                    -Yeah, so... 150 00:07:00,837 --> 00:07:02,964 That's fine. I'm not here             trying to catch anyone. 151 00:07:03,004 --> 00:07:04,507 We're just explaining                    what we saw, 152 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:05,925 and based on the ground-- 153 00:07:05,967 --> 00:07:07,051 [Benjamin] No, and so                to give you an answer 154 00:07:07,093 --> 00:07:08,469 to that question is,                   I can't speculate 155 00:07:08,511 --> 00:07:10,221 as to what's in                    a smuggler's head. 156 00:07:10,263 --> 00:07:12,640 I'm gonna put my forces where        I see that there's a threat, 157 00:07:12,682 --> 00:07:14,267 and we're gonna do our best                 to stop them. 158 00:07:14,308 --> 00:07:17,103 What is the danger               that migrants and smugglers 159 00:07:17,145 --> 00:07:20,314 are taking when they decide         to come to the United States? 160 00:07:20,356 --> 00:07:22,525 [Benjamin] I've spent over half          of my career at sea. 161 00:07:22,567 --> 00:07:23,901 I know how dangerous 162 00:07:23,943 --> 00:07:25,736 the sea can be                 for a professional mariner. 163 00:07:25,778 --> 00:07:27,655 It's unforgiving, and            it can change in an instant. 164 00:07:27,697 --> 00:07:28,823 And the people that are loading 165 00:07:28,865 --> 00:07:30,867 onto these unsafe                  and unseaworthy craft 166 00:07:30,908 --> 00:07:32,618 and attempting to make                   those crossings 167 00:07:32,660 --> 00:07:33,995 are absolutely at risk. 168 00:07:34,036 --> 00:07:36,664 But is Bimini                  at all uniquely different 169 00:07:36,706 --> 00:07:38,583 from other sort of routes            that smugglers are taking 170 00:07:38,624 --> 00:07:40,084 to come to the United States? 171 00:07:40,126 --> 00:07:41,461 [Benjamin] I think, really,             a lot of it has to do 172 00:07:41,502 --> 00:07:42,795 with that proximity piece. 173 00:07:42,837 --> 00:07:44,797 And when you look                  at the overall volume 174 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:47,967 of boat traffic that's crossing     the Florida Straits from Bimini 175 00:07:48,009 --> 00:07:50,302 to the U.S. and back and forth,          on any given weekend, 176 00:07:50,344 --> 00:07:52,221 it's easy to blend in                 with that traffic, 177 00:07:52,263 --> 00:07:54,682 if there were illicit actions                  going on. 178 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:58,644 [Paola]   Bimini is an oasis                   for tourists. 179 00:07:58,686 --> 00:08:01,230 On any given weekend,             fishermen and college students 180 00:08:01,272 --> 00:08:04,442 come from Miami by boat,            unknowingly providing cover 181 00:08:04,484 --> 00:08:07,069 for smugglers who can slip            into the traffic pattern. 182 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:09,197 And it's even worse                     on Spring Break. 183 00:08:09,238 --> 00:08:11,157 [people cheering] 184 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:12,908 Why did you choose                the Bahamas specifically? 185 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:13,910 [Adam]                              It's easier. 186 00:08:13,951 --> 00:08:15,620 We drove to Lauderdale, 187 00:08:15,661 --> 00:08:17,747 got on this boat. 188 00:08:17,788 --> 00:08:21,125 The price was, like,                 700 bucks to do this. 189 00:08:21,167 --> 00:08:22,460 You can't complain. 190 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:24,253 [party music plays] 191 00:08:24,295 --> 00:08:26,255 [Paola]   Smugglers will even use               luxury yachts 192 00:08:26,297 --> 00:08:27,798 to appear                       like American tourists 193 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,300 and evade suspicion, 194 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:31,302 while hiding migrants                      below deck, 195 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:34,180 and the partiers around them                  have no idea 196 00:08:34,222 --> 00:08:36,724 they are helping conceal               the illicit activity. 197 00:08:36,766 --> 00:08:39,644 dramatic music 198 00:08:39,685 --> 00:08:42,188 Migrants looking for smugglers            come here from Cuba, 199 00:08:42,230 --> 00:08:44,357 the Dominican Republic,                 and primarily Haiti 200 00:08:44,398 --> 00:08:46,067 to be taken to the U.S. 201 00:08:46,108 --> 00:08:48,986 While they wait for passage,             restaurants feed them, 202 00:08:49,028 --> 00:08:50,530 and some residents                       are paid off 203 00:08:50,571 --> 00:08:52,198 to hide them in their homes. 204 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,535 A local source told us that         there may be Haitian migrants 205 00:08:55,576 --> 00:08:58,037 in these houses                   that are to my left. 206 00:08:58,079 --> 00:09:00,373 These are houses that look              completely abandoned. 207 00:09:00,414 --> 00:09:02,792 So we're assuming                that these may be houses 208 00:09:02,833 --> 00:09:06,963 where Haitians are holding              before being smuggled 209 00:09:07,004 --> 00:09:08,172 to the United States. 210 00:09:10,424 --> 00:09:11,968 In communities like this one, 211 00:09:12,009 --> 00:09:14,512 finding a smuggler                to get you off the island 212 00:09:14,554 --> 00:09:17,390 is about word of mouth               and making connections. 213 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:21,310 The Haitian residents                      we spoke to 214 00:09:21,352 --> 00:09:23,980 did not want to go on camera          for fear of being arrested. 215 00:09:54,969 --> 00:09:57,430 [Paola]                       Accidents at sea happen 216 00:09:57,471 --> 00:09:59,432 and almost always turn                     to tragedy. 217 00:09:59,473 --> 00:10:01,434 The Coast Guard tonight               has launched a search 218 00:10:01,475 --> 00:10:04,186 for 39 people reported missing                after a boat 219 00:10:04,228 --> 00:10:07,607 believed to be piloted             by human smugglers capsized. 220 00:10:07,648 --> 00:10:10,443 [Paola]   Just last month,             another boat bound for Miami 221 00:10:10,484 --> 00:10:13,946 from the Bahamas sank,              killing 16 Haitian adults 222 00:10:13,988 --> 00:10:15,531 and one child. 223 00:10:15,573 --> 00:10:19,952 The time is never right           to attempt migration by sea. 224 00:10:19,994 --> 00:10:23,122 To those who risk their lives                  doing so, 225 00:10:23,164 --> 00:10:25,625 this risk is not worth taking. 226 00:10:25,666 --> 00:10:27,043 [Paola]   Last summer 227 00:10:27,084 --> 00:10:28,210 Homeland Security Director 228 00:10:28,252 --> 00:10:29,462 Alejandro Mayorkas 229 00:10:29,503 --> 00:10:31,130 warned migrants                       against the risk 230 00:10:31,172 --> 00:10:33,591 of attempting the journey. 231 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:35,801 But the number of migrants                intercepted at sea 232 00:10:35,843 --> 00:10:37,970 has continued to grow. 233 00:10:38,012 --> 00:10:40,848 [person]                       speaking Haitian Creole 234 00:11:01,494 --> 00:11:03,287 [Paola]                       In the past three years, 235 00:11:03,329 --> 00:11:05,164 half of this                 Haitian church's congregation 236 00:11:05,206 --> 00:11:08,668 has left and attempted                 the journey by sea. 237 00:11:08,709 --> 00:11:11,587 Wilcum Derilus fled Haiti 238 00:11:11,629 --> 00:11:13,422 and has witnessed                their desperation firsthand. 239 00:11:13,464 --> 00:11:15,716 [Wilcum]                       speaking Haitian Creole 240 00:11:27,395 --> 00:11:30,815 Do you personally know anyone          that has drowned or died 241 00:11:30,856 --> 00:11:32,692 attempting to reach                  the United States? 242 00:11:32,733 --> 00:11:34,985 [Wilcum] Yes. 243 00:11:35,027 --> 00:11:36,153 -My best friend.                       -[Paola] Mm. 244 00:11:36,195 --> 00:11:37,196 Yeah. 245 00:11:37,238 --> 00:11:40,157 speaking Haitian Creole 246 00:11:55,256 --> 00:11:57,216 [Paola]   With hundreds                of thousands of dollars 247 00:11:57,258 --> 00:11:58,384 on the table, 248 00:11:58,426 --> 00:12:00,845 smugglers have no reason                      to stop. 249 00:12:00,886 --> 00:12:02,930 Before you take these trips              to the United States, 250 00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:04,598 do you warn migrants                    about the risk 251 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,641 that they're about to take? 252 00:12:05,683 --> 00:12:06,767 [smuggler] I don't warn them. 253 00:12:06,809 --> 00:12:08,728 I just asked them,                    could they swim? 254 00:12:08,769 --> 00:12:10,896 And if they say no,                I'm not carrying them. 255 00:12:10,938 --> 00:12:12,732 I don't do kids and teenagers. 256 00:12:12,773 --> 00:12:14,150 Because you're scared             when you take those trips-- 257 00:12:14,191 --> 00:12:15,568 [smuggler]                         I'm not scared. 258 00:12:15,609 --> 00:12:17,319 If you fall overboard              and drown, that's on you. 259 00:12:17,361 --> 00:12:19,238 You already know the risks                   of coming. 260 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,407 You know the risks                of getting in this boat. 261 00:12:21,449 --> 00:12:24,493 Everybody's heard some, like,           really fucked-up story 262 00:12:24,535 --> 00:12:26,871 about somebody dying, 263 00:12:26,912 --> 00:12:29,749 the boat flipped over,                     et cetera. 264 00:12:29,790 --> 00:12:32,418 But you still want                      to go, right? 265 00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:35,713 So accept the fact that that         shit can happen to you, too. 266 00:12:35,755 --> 00:12:38,883 So, so long as you get               a profit from migrants, 267 00:12:38,924 --> 00:12:40,426 you'll keep on trying to make                that journey? 268 00:12:40,468 --> 00:12:42,178 [smuggler]                            Exactly. 269 00:12:42,219 --> 00:12:44,388 As long as you get the money,         you do what you got to do. 270 00:12:44,430 --> 00:12:47,266 dramatic music 271 00:12:50,352 --> 00:12:53,439 [birds chirping] 272 00:12:53,481 --> 00:12:56,442 somber music 273 00:13:06,202 --> 00:13:07,995 [sighs] 274 00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:10,456 I'm gonna miss you                     so much, 'Donte 275 00:13:13,209 --> 00:13:14,919 It makes me angry                     all over again 276 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,421 just thinking about it. 277 00:13:17,463 --> 00:13:19,465 They just don't give a damn                about our life, 278 00:13:19,507 --> 00:13:23,302 just killing us                    like it ain't shit 279 00:13:23,344 --> 00:13:25,554 and getting away with it. 280 00:13:25,596 --> 00:13:27,306 officer] Isn't that the car? 281 00:13:27,348 --> 00:13:29,892 [Dexter]   Seven years ago,                 A'Donte Washington 282 00:13:29,934 --> 00:13:33,103 and a group of four other boys           entered an empty house 283 00:13:33,145 --> 00:13:36,315 in a predominantly white                 suburb in Alabama. 284 00:13:36,357 --> 00:13:37,650 They were stealing things, 285 00:13:37,691 --> 00:13:40,152 like TVs and Xbox games. 286 00:13:40,194 --> 00:13:43,572 Police arrived,                  and one entered the house. 287 00:13:43,614 --> 00:13:44,490 Shots were fired... 288 00:13:44,532 --> 00:13:45,991 [gunshot] 289 00:13:46,033 --> 00:13:47,493 ...including, police say,                    by A'Donte. 290 00:13:47,535 --> 00:13:48,994 [gunshots] 291 00:13:49,036 --> 00:13:50,996 A'Donte ran                        into the backyard, 292 00:13:51,038 --> 00:13:53,707 where he was shot and killed                 by an officer. 293 00:13:56,210 --> 00:13:59,046 The police officer was cleared             of any wrongdoing 294 00:13:59,088 --> 00:14:00,673 and was never charged. 295 00:14:00,714 --> 00:14:04,426 Instead, murder charges fell              on each of the boys. 296 00:14:04,468 --> 00:14:07,847 Now, this is all because          of a rule called felony murder, 297 00:14:07,888 --> 00:14:09,223 which says                      that if somebody dies 298 00:14:09,265 --> 00:14:11,100 while a felony                     is being committed, 299 00:14:11,141 --> 00:14:12,768 then everybody who was involved              in that crime 300 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:14,562 can be held responsible. 301 00:14:14,603 --> 00:14:18,148 Most murder charges require            proof of intent or malice, 302 00:14:18,190 --> 00:14:20,943 but felony murder radically             expands that definition 303 00:14:20,985 --> 00:14:23,445 so that if a qualifying felony                takes place, 304 00:14:23,487 --> 00:14:25,447 you can be charged                    even if the death 305 00:14:25,489 --> 00:14:27,324 is caused by a third party. 306 00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:29,159 And since it falls                    under the umbrella 307 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:30,870 of the traditional definition                   of murder 308 00:14:30,911 --> 00:14:32,329 the sentence in most states 309 00:14:32,371 --> 00:14:34,039 can go up to life                      without parole, 310 00:14:34,081 --> 00:14:35,499 a similar punishment 311 00:14:35,541 --> 00:14:37,668 to if you'd pulled                  the trigger yourself. 312 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:39,128 And so, across the country, 313 00:14:39,169 --> 00:14:41,338 people who never committed                    a homicide 314 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:43,465 are being sentenced                      as murderers. 315 00:14:43,507 --> 00:14:45,676 Last month six teenagers                  allegedly tried 316 00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:47,052 to break into a car. 317 00:14:47,094 --> 00:14:49,221 The owner shot and killed                  one of them. 318 00:14:49,263 --> 00:14:51,640 The five other teens                    were all charged 319 00:14:51,682 --> 00:14:53,058 with the boy's murder. 320 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:54,393 [reporter]                       Tonight Madison police 321 00:14:54,435 --> 00:14:56,020 are searching                        for two suspects 322 00:14:56,061 --> 00:14:57,521 at the center                      of an armed robbery. 323 00:14:57,563 --> 00:15:01,025 The victim was literally                 scared to death. 324 00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:03,319 [reporter]   Those actions                 now have Madison PD 325 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,738 calling                      for felony murder charges. 326 00:15:05,779 --> 00:15:08,490 [Dexter]   The concept or charge                of felony murder 327 00:15:08,532 --> 00:15:10,910 is as old                       as the country itself. 328 00:15:10,951 --> 00:15:13,287 And of the 48 states                with felony murder laws 329 00:15:13,329 --> 00:15:16,540 on the books, in 13 of them,               you can be charged 330 00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:19,543 even if it's the cops                   that kill someone. 331 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:21,754 That's what happened                   to LaKeith Smith. 332 00:15:21,795 --> 00:15:24,882 [scissors snipping] 333 00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:26,717 [BronTina]                     I'm gonna make a shirt. 334 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:30,095 I'm gonna place a picture         of my son LaKeith on the shirt. 335 00:15:30,137 --> 00:15:31,764 It will look like that. 336 00:15:31,805 --> 00:15:33,515 [Dexter]   LaKeith Smith              was the youngest of the boys 337 00:15:33,557 --> 00:15:34,767 who was in the house that day 338 00:15:34,808 --> 00:15:36,685 when A'Donte Washington                      was killed 339 00:15:36,727 --> 00:15:38,395 He was 15 at the time, 340 00:15:38,437 --> 00:15:41,398 and he was sentenced                      to 65 years. 341 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,775 If he serves                       his full sentence, 342 00:15:42,816 --> 00:15:44,234 how old would he be                   when he gets out? 343 00:15:44,276 --> 00:15:46,236 Old. 344 00:15:46,278 --> 00:15:48,364 And I'd be dead. 345 00:15:48,405 --> 00:15:51,367 My mom would be dead.                  My dad'd be dead. 346 00:15:51,408 --> 00:15:55,120 Like, most of them                 that he knows as family 347 00:15:55,162 --> 00:15:57,039 would be dead. 348 00:15:57,081 --> 00:16:00,793 So, even to come home at 73,          what is he coming home to? 349 00:16:00,834 --> 00:16:03,671 What did you think was an         appropriate punishment for him? 350 00:16:03,712 --> 00:16:05,422 Burglary. 351 00:16:05,464 --> 00:16:07,549 And I think it was, like,                  three to ten 352 00:16:07,591 --> 00:16:08,926 or something like that,                  I think it is. 353 00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:12,596 If this crime says                that you get three years, 354 00:16:12,638 --> 00:16:15,099 then, damn it,               you gonna get them three years. 355 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:18,894 And he ended up getting 65           and then down to 55 years. 356 00:16:18,936 --> 00:16:21,480 Right, only because                 they're able to throw 357 00:16:21,522 --> 00:16:23,190 that murder in there. 358 00:16:23,232 --> 00:16:26,068 Sentencings are under way                in Elmore County 359 00:16:26,110 --> 00:16:28,445 for the defendants               in the felony murder cases. 360 00:16:28,487 --> 00:16:30,322 [Dexter]   LaKeith,                  who had charges pending 361 00:16:30,364 --> 00:16:31,991 from a previous case, 362 00:16:32,032 --> 00:16:34,742 was the only one of the boys              to plead not guilty. 363 00:16:34,785 --> 00:16:36,787 He went to trial before                  an all-white jury, 364 00:16:36,828 --> 00:16:38,664 and he lost. 365 00:16:38,706 --> 00:16:39,748 [Dexter]                      What was the plea deal? 366 00:16:39,789 --> 00:16:41,583 -What were they offering?                   -Like, 25. 367 00:16:41,625 --> 00:16:43,335 Yeah, I think it was, like,                   25 years. 368 00:16:43,376 --> 00:16:45,837 -What did he tell you?             -He's just not gonna do it. 369 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:47,964 It wasn't really, say,                   about the time. 370 00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:49,674 It was about the fact that now             you want me to say 371 00:16:49,717 --> 00:16:51,802 I killed my friend out there. 372 00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:54,471 He was shot and killed                by a police officer. 373 00:16:54,512 --> 00:16:56,640 -It was a principle thing?                     -Yeah. 374 00:16:56,682 --> 00:17:00,602 I always told LaKeith                  about the system, 375 00:17:00,644 --> 00:17:03,147 'cause we have people in it. 376 00:17:03,188 --> 00:17:05,190 Once they get                     their hands on you, 377 00:17:05,232 --> 00:17:07,484 there's nothing I can do                      or say, 378 00:17:07,526 --> 00:17:09,194 nothing I can do or say. 379 00:17:10,654 --> 00:17:12,740 [Leroy]                    When you take a case like this 380 00:17:12,781 --> 00:17:15,159 in a hotly conservative state, 381 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,661 a law-and-order county, 382 00:17:17,703 --> 00:17:21,165 you end up with essentially               a death sentence. 383 00:17:21,206 --> 00:17:22,833 [Dexter]                      Leroy Maxwell is a lawyer 384 00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:25,544 who's now working                  on LaKeith Smith's case. 385 00:17:25,586 --> 00:17:28,130 He says it's not just              the length the sentence is. 386 00:17:28,172 --> 00:17:30,966 It's also the sort of people           that felony murder charges 387 00:17:31,008 --> 00:17:32,342 tend to target. 388 00:17:32,384 --> 00:17:34,136 Most jurisdictions                     don't track data 389 00:17:34,178 --> 00:17:36,388 on how felony murder is used. 390 00:17:36,430 --> 00:17:38,766 But there have been                   independent studies 391 00:17:38,807 --> 00:17:41,101 that track convictions,                     sentencing, 392 00:17:41,143 --> 00:17:42,895 and actual imprisonment, 393 00:17:42,936 --> 00:17:45,272 and they all show                     that felony murder 394 00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:48,567 is overwhelmingly applied                to non-white people. 395 00:17:48,609 --> 00:17:50,569 It's the perfect 396 00:17:50,611 --> 00:17:53,155 prosecutorial tool 397 00:17:53,197 --> 00:17:56,658 to sweep as many folks up                   as possible 398 00:17:56,700 --> 00:17:59,411 and brand them as murderers. 399 00:17:59,453 --> 00:18:01,413 Were you surprised               when you heard the verdict? 400 00:18:01,455 --> 00:18:04,166 [Leroy] I was not surprised                of the verdict. 401 00:18:04,208 --> 00:18:07,336 I was surprised                    by the sentencing. 402 00:18:07,377 --> 00:18:09,463 Why does a sentence happen                   like that? 403 00:18:09,505 --> 00:18:12,382 Alabama is a state 404 00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:15,511 where our elected officials 405 00:18:15,552 --> 00:18:19,973 are put on a pedestal            if they're tougher on crime. 406 00:18:20,015 --> 00:18:23,560 If the players involved                    are police 407 00:18:23,602 --> 00:18:25,187 versus young Black men, 408 00:18:25,229 --> 00:18:28,774 we sort of know where            the dominoes are gonna fall. 409 00:18:28,816 --> 00:18:30,984 [Dexter]                       Over the past few years 410 00:18:31,026 --> 00:18:34,029 the racially biased trends              and extreme sentencing 411 00:18:34,071 --> 00:18:36,156 associated with felony murder                 have motivated 412 00:18:36,198 --> 00:18:37,574 at least seven states 413 00:18:37,616 --> 00:18:38,742 to attempt to change all 414 00:18:38,784 --> 00:18:39,785 or parts of 415 00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:41,036 felony murder laws. 416 00:18:41,078 --> 00:18:42,412 But the opposition to those 417 00:18:42,454 --> 00:18:44,206 changes has been strong. 418 00:18:44,248 --> 00:18:46,959 That's partially                 because state prosecutors 419 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,961 aren't interested 420 00:18:49,002 --> 00:18:51,588 in having one of their most            powerful tools taken away. 421 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:54,299 [Eric] Is it an easier theory            of liability to prove 422 00:18:54,341 --> 00:18:56,218 than, for example,                     normal murder? 423 00:18:56,260 --> 00:18:58,303 100%,                     because all you have to do 424 00:18:58,345 --> 00:19:00,806 is prove the underlying felony. 425 00:19:00,848 --> 00:19:03,433 Did they intend to commit                   a robbery? 426 00:19:03,475 --> 00:19:06,603 [Dexter]   Eric Siddall is             a prosecutor in Los Angeles, 427 00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:08,772 and things have recently                   changed here. 428 00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:12,359 In 2018 California amended             their felony murder laws 429 00:19:12,401 --> 00:19:14,236 This restricted the kinds                    of offenses 430 00:19:14,278 --> 00:19:16,280 that were eligible                      for the charge 431 00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:18,740 and allowed hundreds of people       who'd recently been imprisoned 432 00:19:18,782 --> 00:19:20,909 for felony murder                   to petition the courts 433 00:19:20,951 --> 00:19:23,036 for relief                      or reduced sentences. 434 00:19:23,078 --> 00:19:25,122 Eric and a lot                      of his colleagues 435 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:27,416 say that this was a bad idea. 436 00:19:27,457 --> 00:19:29,001 What is the argument 437 00:19:29,042 --> 00:19:31,962 for keeping felony murder laws                on the books? 438 00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:34,214 The argument is that you want         to hold people accountable 439 00:19:34,256 --> 00:19:36,466 for the consequences                   of their actions. 440 00:19:36,508 --> 00:19:40,429 Not every crime ends               with the intended crime. 441 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:42,556 There are certain times              where an intended crime 442 00:19:42,598 --> 00:19:45,142 leads to other                      horrible results. 443 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:48,228 I think the most noteworthy          case is in the Arbery case. 444 00:19:48,270 --> 00:19:51,356 [Dexter]                         In February of 2020, 445 00:19:51,398 --> 00:19:53,692 Ahmaud Arbery was jogging                in his neighborhood 446 00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:55,903 when he was attacked                  by three white men. 447 00:19:55,944 --> 00:19:57,738 [gunshot] 448 00:19:57,779 --> 00:20:00,282 Only one of those men fired            the shot that killed him, 449 00:20:00,324 --> 00:20:02,701 but because of Georgia's                 felony murder law, 450 00:20:02,743 --> 00:20:06,330 the other two men were also             given similar sentences 451 00:20:06,371 --> 00:20:08,498 They're now looking                    at life in prison. 452 00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:10,709 [crowd cheering] 453 00:20:10,751 --> 00:20:13,712 I never thought                   this day would come. 454 00:20:13,754 --> 00:20:14,713 But God is good. 455 00:20:14,755 --> 00:20:15,839 [person] Amen. 456 00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:17,633 [Dexter]                         The sense of justice 457 00:20:17,674 --> 00:20:20,719 that a lot of people felt             at that verdict was real. 458 00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:23,513 So, for a lot of prosecutors, 459 00:20:23,555 --> 00:20:26,225 this verdict is                the success story to point to 460 00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:28,977 to argue that felony murder                  needs to stay. 461 00:20:29,019 --> 00:20:31,230 And Eric says                    that if the Arbery case 462 00:20:31,271 --> 00:20:32,689 had happened in California, 463 00:20:32,731 --> 00:20:34,983 that punishment                  would have been different. 464 00:20:35,025 --> 00:20:37,736 They would have been charged        with simple false imprisonment. 465 00:20:37,778 --> 00:20:39,613 They would be looking                at a maximum sentence 466 00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:41,073 of three years, 467 00:20:41,114 --> 00:20:44,534 and they would only serve               about 50% of that. 468 00:20:44,576 --> 00:20:48,205 -So out in a year and a half.                   -Right. 469 00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:51,917 I think people                would be extremely indignant 470 00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:53,460 and offended by that. 471 00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:55,754 If we want to reform                    felony murder, 472 00:20:55,796 --> 00:20:58,966 the reform should not be          about abolishing the doctrine. 473 00:20:59,007 --> 00:21:01,176 You want your sentences                to be proportional. 474 00:21:01,218 --> 00:21:02,761 Keep the doctrine 475 00:21:02,803 --> 00:21:05,973 and then make sure that            it's administered properly. 476 00:21:06,014 --> 00:21:07,766 [Dexter]                      But even if states change 477 00:21:07,808 --> 00:21:09,601 the length of sentences, 478 00:21:09,643 --> 00:21:11,853 that wouldn't change                 the pattern of people 479 00:21:11,895 --> 00:21:14,940 who are usually targeted            with felony murder charges. 480 00:21:14,982 --> 00:21:17,401 Leroy Maxwell                       says that pattern 481 00:21:17,442 --> 00:21:20,195 is something deeply embedded                 in the system. 482 00:21:20,237 --> 00:21:23,615 [Leroy]   LaKeith Smith was            sentenced to die in prison, 483 00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:27,411 and it came down                    to a societal issue 484 00:21:27,452 --> 00:21:30,455 that we see when it comes             to race and sentencing. 485 00:21:30,497 --> 00:21:33,792 There's more to this            than just guilt and innocence. 486 00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:35,711 There's so much at play 487 00:21:35,752 --> 00:21:38,964 that started 1,000 years                   before that, 488 00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:43,427 from slavery to Black codes        to Jim Crow to over-sentencing, 489 00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:44,636 the War on Drugs, 490 00:21:44,678 --> 00:21:48,098 the demonization                   of Black, young men. 491 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:49,850 I imagine for LaKeith, 492 00:21:49,891 --> 00:21:53,103 that entire burden came down            on him in that moment, 493 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:54,813 and he realized                   that this isn't just 494 00:21:54,855 --> 00:21:56,690 about whether I pulled                 the trigger or not. 495 00:21:56,732 --> 00:21:59,359 There's so much more to it. 496 00:21:59,401 --> 00:22:02,112 tense music 497 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:03,739 [Dexter]   Since I've been here                  in Alabama, 498 00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:05,615 the one person I haven't              been able to speak with 499 00:22:05,657 --> 00:22:07,659 is LaKeith Smith himself. 500 00:22:07,701 --> 00:22:09,494 So he's locked up in there. 501 00:22:09,536 --> 00:22:11,246 And the state intends                to keep him locked up 502 00:22:11,288 --> 00:22:13,040 until he's 70 years old. 503 00:22:13,081 --> 00:22:15,125 We have put in requests          to film an interview with him. 504 00:22:15,167 --> 00:22:16,543 The warden said no. 505 00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:18,170 The Department of Corrections              hasn't responded 506 00:22:18,211 --> 00:22:19,463 to our requests. 507 00:22:19,504 --> 00:22:22,007 So the only thing left                  is a phone call. 508 00:22:23,550 --> 00:22:25,010 Hey, LaKeith, can you hear me? 509 00:22:26,803 --> 00:22:27,971 When the police tell you 510 00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:29,848 that you're gonna be held                   responsible 511 00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:31,767 for the death of A'Donte, 512 00:22:31,808 --> 00:22:33,101 what was going                     through your mind? 513 00:22:44,488 --> 00:22:46,531 When they handed down                   that sentence, 514 00:22:46,573 --> 00:22:48,408 what was going through                     your mind? 515 00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:51,870 You were laughing.                      Why is that? 516 00:22:59,086 --> 00:23:01,380 Is there anything that you          would want to say to A'Donte? 517 00:23:06,551 --> 00:23:07,594 Sorry? Why is that? 518 00:23:12,307 --> 00:23:14,851 [indistinct chatter,                   person laughing] 519 00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:17,145 'Donte, you got your              whole family here with you. 520 00:23:17,187 --> 00:23:20,273 [indistinct chatter] 521 00:23:20,315 --> 00:23:22,150 [Dexter] Do you blame LaKeith            for your son's death? 522 00:23:22,192 --> 00:23:23,735 [Vernice] No. 523 00:23:23,777 --> 00:23:26,238 He asked me, did I blame him?          And he kept apologizing. 524 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:29,491 I told him,                "No, I don't blame you at all, 525 00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:31,326 "'cause you ain't the one                that killed him. 526 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:33,161 "And I don't think                 you should be in there 527 00:23:33,203 --> 00:23:35,414 "for my baby murder, when you        not the one that killed him." 528 00:23:35,455 --> 00:23:38,500 You want LaKeith                       to come home. 529 00:23:38,542 --> 00:23:40,919 I feel like he shouldn't do                 another day, 530 00:23:40,961 --> 00:23:43,422 -and he needs to come home.               -[Dexter] Right. 531 00:23:43,463 --> 00:23:46,758 LaKeith Smith filed                    an appeal in 2018. 532 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,885 That was denied. 533 00:23:48,927 --> 00:23:50,929 His new attorney has filed                 another petition 534 00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:52,347 for a retrial. 535 00:23:52,389 --> 00:23:53,723 But there's no guarantee 536 00:23:53,765 --> 00:23:56,017 that that one                    will go through either. 537 00:23:56,059 --> 00:23:58,937 Still,                     his family hasn't given up. 538 00:24:00,647 --> 00:24:01,648 [BronTina]                       Everybody outside? 539 00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:04,151 [Dexter]                       This is the eighth year 540 00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:06,027 that LaKeith's mom               is celebrating his birthday 541 00:24:06,069 --> 00:24:07,154 without him. 542 00:24:07,195 --> 00:24:10,115 But this year she's not alone. 543 00:24:10,157 --> 00:24:12,242 LaKeith's case                   has also gotten support 544 00:24:12,284 --> 00:24:15,454 of the family members                   of Breonna Taylor, 545 00:24:15,495 --> 00:24:19,332 Jacob Blake, and George Floyd. 546 00:24:19,374 --> 00:24:21,418 [BronTina]                 I appreciate all the love, man. 547 00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:23,670 Listen, we gonna get              these babies some justice. 548 00:24:23,712 --> 00:24:25,547 -That's right.                  -From A'Donte to LaKeith. 549 00:24:25,589 --> 00:24:28,508 But God gave my boy a heart                    to say, 550 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:30,469 "No, I'm not gonna take                    this plea. 551 00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:32,471 I'm not gonna take this deal." 552 00:24:32,512 --> 00:24:34,723 We gonna fight this thing.               We gonna fight it. 553 00:24:34,764 --> 00:24:36,558 It may not be                      your child today. 554 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,934 -Whoo.                        -[person] Yes, Lord. 555 00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:39,728 It may not be                     your nephew today, 556 00:24:39,769 --> 00:24:42,898 your daughter today,               your homegirl time today, 557 00:24:42,939 --> 00:24:44,941 but tomorrow                    it could very well be. 558 00:24:44,983 --> 00:24:46,401 [person]                    That's right. That's right. 559 00:24:46,443 --> 00:24:49,321 dramatic music 55699

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