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Well done,
you're doing really well. Keep it up.
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We can see your every move now. Fantastic.
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Don't rush. There's no rush. Over.
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It's amazing. Over.
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Go on, Alison.
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- She's done it, she's there.
- Whoo! I feel like...
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This is the most fantastic
day of my life. Over.
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A 33-year-old
mother has become
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the first British woman
to conquer Mount Everest alone
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and without an oxygen supply.
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Alison Hargreaves from Torlundy
near Fort William is
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the only British professional
female mountaineer.
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Alison Hargreaves
had nurtured her ambition
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to conquer Everest without
oxygen since her schooldays.
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After a failed attempt last year,
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driven back by appalling weather,
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the 33-year-old finally sent
word back to her husband by fax
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that she was on top of the world.
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Alison, mother of two,
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reached the summit of Everest,
8848 meters,
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13th of May 1995
at 12:08pm Nepalese time.
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Base to Tom and Kate,
my two children.
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I'm on the highest point in the world
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and I love them dearly. Over.
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Keep your heads up.
Heads up, heads up.
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- Heads up. Heads up.
- Kate. Heads up. Kate.
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Careful. Go that way, Tom.
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Just like as if we're going
skiing. Very straight, Tom.
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You're a mother
of two young children.
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What did they think when mum
come home a world record holder?
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Well, they don't really
understand, I mean,
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they know mum's done something
special 'cause people
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keep asking them
about what mummy's just done.
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Um, but mummy's always
gone off and climbed mountains,
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so to a certain extent,
it's fairly normal.
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Do you think mum is very clever?
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- Yes.
- Why is your mum very clever?
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Because she climbed Mount Everest.
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And she climbed Mount Everest, all on...
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- Her own.
- Without any...
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Oxygen.
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And why is that clever?
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Because it, because it's clever.
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Because it's very clever!
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Shall we pump it out
for your mum because she's a-
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Let's give three cheers for your mum
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'cause she's a record breaker!
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What's next?
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Um, in a couple of weeks' time I'm off
to Pakistan to try and climb K2,
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which is the second-highest in the world.
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So it's not so high, but maybe
a little bit more difficult.
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- So that'll be fun.
- What drives you on?
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Ah. I don't know, something inside.
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I mean, I love climbing mountains and,
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and I love standing on top.
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And to have stood on top
of the highest in the world,
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for me, is just unbelievable.
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Conquering Everest
and K2 in the one season
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without oxygen is unprecedented.
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But as she prepares to set off,
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Alison Hargreaves
is well aware of the dangers.
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When we go climbing,
we obviously minimize the risks,
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and if we thought it was that risky,
we wouldn't go climbing.
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I mean, anybody who, who went
off thinking that, you know,
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there was a, you know, very high
chance they wouldn't come back,
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I think is, is a very,
it's a unfair thing to do,
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especially with their own family.
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Basically, you know,
climbers climb.
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We know our strengths and
our weaknesses, and hopefully
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we can normally make the right
decisions at the right time.
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Tom, what do you think
of your mummy?
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She's very nice and she's,
and she is very clever,
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so she, she'll do it.
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I'm a mole I'm a mole and I live in a hole.
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I'm a mole.
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I had the worst job
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that any parent's ever gonna
have in their life.
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I sat the children down
in a quiet room and, um,
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and told them that their mother
was more than likely dead
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and they wouldn't see her again.
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And she was lost on a storm in K2.
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And Kate cried and shouted,
as small children will,
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and, uh, Tom asked if he and Kate
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could see their mum's last mountain.
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And I didn't think for very long.
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I gave them my promise
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that they would see where their mum died
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and, more importantly,
their mum's last mountain.
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Well, that's it, chaps,
that's the last of the bags.
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Everything's packed,
now all we need is the station.
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- Thank you.
- Take care.
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Look after the kids.
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I will do, don't worry.
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See you all when I come back.
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The passengers
sitting out on the left-hand
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side can have a view of K2
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and the tall treat on to the left to it
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is finally visible.
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Where is K2?
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K2's the pointy one,
straight on the skies here.
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- Over there?
- Yeah, the big pointy one.
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Your mum stood on top of that,
and Everest.
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- That one big pointy.
- Yeah, let's look it up.
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Nobody knows
how life is gonna unfold.
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Nobody knew we were going
to have two smashing children.
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But we did.
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And the one promise we made to each other
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that was totally binding
was that we would always
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bring our children up in the
wide-open spaces, in freedom,
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learning what spirit's about,
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learning what adventure's about,
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enjoying, understanding and accepting
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the wild and beautiful place
of this Earth.
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I wouldn't like to see
Tom and Kate do anything
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that-that people wanted them to do.
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I'd only like to see Tom and Kate have
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the opportunity to do
what they want to do,
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be it bricklayer or brain surgeon.
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But it would be
an awfully hard act for Kate
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to have to follow
the greatest woman climber.
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And even more impossible
to follow as a boy.
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But who knows?
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The mountains, I think, are magnetic.
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There is some sort of force
that pulls you in.
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It's the aura. It's the, the purity.
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The open, vast sky.
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You can see forever.
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And the mountains have this awesome power.
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Oh, my God!
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You can't conquer them.
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They were there before us,
and after we've gone,
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they'll still be there.
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And so i-instead of fighting against them,
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you have to find a way to work with them.
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You have to be in harmony,
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and sometimes they let you
and other times they won't.
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But we're always sort of
pushing ourselves a little bit
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to see how far we can go, you know,
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how far at the edge can we go
before we topple off.
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Danger is very personal to everybody.
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Yes!
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Pushing your own personal
limits is more or less
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going for longer or higher
or faster or harder.
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But never fighting against
the mountain because you can't,
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because they'll always win in the end.
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My relationship with
the mountains is, I would say,
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not completely different to Tom's.
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You know, our love and our drive
is exactly the same,
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but he's got goals in mind.
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He's got, "I wanna do
this peak and this peak
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and this peak and I want to do
this route on this peak
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and this one and this one," and he just
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strives to, to climb.
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It's all he's ever wanted to do, you know?
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That's fine, and that is
and has always been Tom.
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Nobody knows why Tom is the way he is,
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he's just a climber and always will be.
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Anyone that's ever seen
Tom on a mountain
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would say how much like an ibex he is.
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Just so sure-footed. It's hard to explain.
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I've never seen anyone like that.
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I don't know what Tom's plans
are, I've got no idea.
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But if he does take his
climbing to a higher level,
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I definitely want to be a part of it.
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And while he's climbing,
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I'm sure I'll be doing other things.
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I adore to climb mountains,
don't get me wrong,
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but I don't just necessarily
want to get to the top and down again.
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But if I'm climbing with Tom, it's, like,
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200 million times easier
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than if I was doing it with anybody else.
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Anybody else in the entire world.
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Having Tom by my side
is like having protection,
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a helping hand, or just...
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He's a nice person to have next to you
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when you're on the mountain.
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It's so...
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That's a nice thing for
a sister to say, isn't it, Tom?
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- It's very nice, yeah.
- See? I can be nice.
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Ah, okay. I didn't know.
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Sorry, Joe.
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The time is 17 minutes to 9:00,
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the climber, Tom Ballard,
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has just completed a remarkable feat.
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The six great north faces of the Alps,
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all climbed alone, in winter,
in one season.
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He's the son of Alison Hargreaves,
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who did the same thing
in the summer season.
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In 1995, Alison Hargreaves was killed
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after reaching the summit of K2,
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the world's second-highest mountain.
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The six
great peaks of Europe,
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climb the north faces, all in one winter
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sounds an absolutely
miserable business to me.
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How-how difficult was it?
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Uh, the main difficulty is
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getting the right conditions
at the right time.
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And then, you know, I think
that, uh, maybe
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sort of 80% is probably sort of down,
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more down to luck
wi-with the weather, and...
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The thing is, the, the
mountains will always be there.
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You just have to make sure that you are.
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It's just a shame
that climbing
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isn't an Olympic sport because
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we'd be nailed on for gold with you,
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surely, wouldn't we?
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Yeah, it would be nice, actually,
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to have a nice gold medal instead of just
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a nice feeling at the end of the day.
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Well, Tom,
lovely talking to you,
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and continued success.
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I'm sure your mum would be
very proud indeed.
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I think so, too. Thank you very much.
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Alright, all the best.
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That's, uh, Tom Ballard,
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a world-beating British climber.
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And we are proud of him.
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It's, uh, just gone
26 minutes past 11:00. I...
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I genuinely believe,
like his mother had a talent,
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Tom has a fantastic talent,
and I believe that Tom,
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up to this moment in time,
knows how to use that talent.
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But I don't believe in omnipotence.
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The problem is that the game is played,
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particularly if he transfers it
to higher peaks.
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Goes from playing Russian roulette
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with maybe no or one bullet in,
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to playing Russian roulette
with quite a lot of bullets in.
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The search
continues for a British climber
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who's gone missing on
Nanga Parbat, a giant peak
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in Pakistan, nicknamed
the Killer Mountain.
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Two military helicopters are searching
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for Tom Ballard and Italian Daniele Nardi
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as they lost contact over a week ago.
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Tom Ballard, part of
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an East Midlands mountaineering dynasty,
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is regarded as one of
the world's finest alpinists.
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He posts regular updates of his exploits
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to his thousands of followers online.
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His last update was nine days ago.
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Life is "like a holiday,
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while we wait for that
elusive weather window."
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He hasn't been seen since Sunday.
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So... we've got Tom and Daniele
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somewhere high on the spur,
the comms aren't working,
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and that's the last concrete
information we have.
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Kate is in South Africa
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and she said, "How long, dad? How long?"
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And I said, "Look, you know,"
I said "you know me,
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I'm not given to snatching
at things in the air,
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nor am I given to, you know,
letting my emotions run away."
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But seven to ten days, no problem.
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You know, the boy will be cold,
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he might have a bit of frostbite,
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he'll certainly be really bad-tempered,
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but that's the thing we have to remember.
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Hi, Kate. Hello.
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- Can you hear me?
- Yes, I can hear you.
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I was just talking to Luigi,
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that's Daniele's other brother,
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and he said if I was gonna call you,
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then maybe I could just update you.
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That would be very nice, Kate.
263
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So helicopters took off
this morning to go have a look,
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uh, at, uh, possible sighting.
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Um, what they saw, they can't see clearly,
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but what they could see is that
the two, the two bodies,
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and they are bodies
because they're not moving.
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If they are bodies,
80% sure they are bodies.
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One is wearing orange,
one is wearing blue.
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Or they can't be a 100% sure
but like I said,
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they're not moving, so...
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Okay, dear. Okay. And, uh...
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S-so that's what he just told me.
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Okay. So how are you bearing up with that?
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It's heart-breaking, Kate.
I'm, I'm sorry.
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You know, I wish I could,
I wish I could say something
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that could make you feel better
at the moment.
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You, you, you, you really
do need to try and find,
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uh, something to do and help,
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that-that takes your mind off
it so that you can, you can
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go back to, to, to trying
to remember the good times,
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the great times, and, um...
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I don't wanna, dad,
as far as I'm concerned,
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I'm not willing to talk
and think about the good times,
285
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and any, like, any, uh...
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I'm not, we, until we find Tom,
until the rescue is called off,
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I'm not gonna think of
the situation like Tom is dead,
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I don't, I'm not willing to accept it
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until the rescue is being
called off one way or the other.
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So I'm not willing to listen to anyone
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that has anything to say
about Tom being dead,
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because, quite frankly, I know Tom so well
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and I know that he can get
himself out of any situations.
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So if that is, perhaps, Tom lying there,
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then, as far as I'm concerned,
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he's still alive
and we need to go and get him.
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Yeah, well, I'm sure,
I'm sure there's a lot of people
298
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feel that, the same as you do, Kate.
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D-do you want to talk later?
Shall I ring you-
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- I'll talk to you later.
- -Okay, dear.
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- Okay? Lots of love.
- Bye.
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Lots of hugs. Talk to you later.
Au revoir.
303
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- Sure. Au revoir.
- Au revoir, dear.
304
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Well, that's how some people cope,
305
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and, unfortunately, it seems to be the way
306
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Kate is coping, and it's not
a, a happy experience
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'cause there's nothing I can say.
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I suppose
what, what is frustrating Kate
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is the fact is, it is out of her control.
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Probably we will not know very much
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about what was found on the mountain
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till the search is finished,
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but, you know, there is still a chance.
314
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Hello, very good evening to you.
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Rescuers have found the bodies
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of the missing British
mountaineer, Tom Ballard,
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and his Italian climbing
companion, Daniele Nardi,
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in Pakistan.
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Contact was lost with the pair
almost two weeks ago during an ascent
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of one of the world's highest mountains.
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Nanga Parbat, in the Himalayas.
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Mr. Ballard is the son
of Alison Hargreaves,
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who died on a mountain peak, too.
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After hours of searching
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from Pakistani helicopters
and special teams from Spain,
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the Italian ambassador
to Pakistan announced
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the search was over,
as the bodies had been spotted.
328
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Alex Txikon was part of the search team
329
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and was one of the first
to climb Nanga Parbat
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in the winter, just three years ago.
331
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Not so good news,
we spotted the bodies
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of Daniele Nardi and Tom Ballard.
333
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They are in quite difficult
and high altitude area,
334
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which is impossible for us to reach there.
335
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Really super risky to attempt
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any, any, any rescue missions.
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They will stay for always on Nanga Parbat.
338
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,400
You know, it's a very, very sad moment.
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Tom Ballard's mother
Alison Hargreaves, was killed
340
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in a storm while descending
from the summit of K2,
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the world's second-highest mountain,
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about a 100 miles away
from where Tom died.
343
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As captain, I welcome you
on board on flight TK451.
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After another
two to three minutes, uh, uh,
345
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you will, people sitting on
the right will be able to see.
346
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Nanga Parbat and, uh, we'll
commence, insha Allah, descent,
347
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uh, after ten minutes...
348
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It's six months since we lost Tom.
349
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He and Daniele are still up there,
350
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at peace, on Nanga Parbat.
351
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I've been to collect Tom's passport.
352
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,800
That's a big relief to have
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that small red book back
in the family's possession.
354
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:28,680
But it's, it's papers, you know?
355
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,920
It's not, it's not actually Tom.
356
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,880
So it's just paperwork.
357
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,000
The most important thing now for me
358
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is to meet the Italian
ambassador of Pakistan.
359
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He supervised over
the search and rescue efforts
360
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after Tom and Daniele went missing.
361
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,440
So he'll have more information about
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what actually happened to Tom and Daniele.
363
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,200
What happens in,
in Nanga Parbat, apparently,
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is, on that, on the...
365
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,440
on that route is that snow comes down...
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and it snows heavily.
367
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,280
Then it kind of freezes
368
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:24,400
and accumulates
369
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and when it's too heavy,
it just goes down.
370
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And that happens every three to six hours.
371
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,080
So one idea is that there
may have been a ice avalanche,
372
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a serac, which hit them.
373
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:40,320
It was certainly not a snowstorm
374
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because a snowstorm
would've wiped out everything.
375
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And, uh, Alex Txikon,
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00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,960
who we enlisted for the rescue operation,
377
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inferred from the position of the bodies
378
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and, uh, the general conditions
of how they were found,
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that they may have died a different way,
380
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which was, uh, as they were coming down,
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they were still roped,
382
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and, uh, Tom was possibly,
383
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because he's, he's kind of hanging
384
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in a, in an awkward position in the ropes,
385
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,880
he might have gotten tangled in the ropes.
386
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,640
Daniele was going up
to try to, to cut the ropes
387
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,760
or, you know, get freed of the ropes,
388
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,520
and they may have been victim of climate,
389
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,320
of the minus-50 degrees,
and may have died that way.
390
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,720
Alex Txikon used those words.
391
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,840
They have died a cruel death.
392
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,920
I'm sorry. I thought you
actually were aware of all this.
393
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000
No, no, no. Not aware of that at all.
394
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,040
We've, of course,
we don't, didn't ever think
395
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,160
we knew exactly what had happened,
396
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,760
but the story that we took
on board was that...
397
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they climbed,
they went to bed in their tent,
398
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probably very cold up at that altitude,
399
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,200
and sometime during the night,
400
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,920
while they were peacefully asleep,
401
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,680
probably dreaming about climbing,
402
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,120
that a serac
from high above them broke off
403
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,600
and the force just ripped them
straight out of their tent
404
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,720
and threw them off the mountain,
405
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,000
and they would've died
immediately on impact,
406
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,000
uh, from the force, just as,
407
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,920
just as we believe, happened to mum,
408
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,376
that she wouldn't have felt anything,
409
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,960
it just happened so suddenly
410
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,800
that you don't, and that he was asleep.
411
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,960
That was, so that was
kind of reassuring for us,
412
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,000
and that's been for the last
however many months
413
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:27,240
since the accident, that's what
we have thought happened.
414
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,360
And now today, to have heard...
415
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,880
that they were hanging,
416
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,680
dangling, dying slowly,
417
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,120
fully aware of what was going on, um...
418
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,320
and that, and, uh,
419
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,840
his exact words were
that it was a, a, a cruel death.
420
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000
That's, that's really big news.
421
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,760
I could be happier and live easier
422
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,360
knowing that he was at peace.
423
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,640
But to hear that he could've
been really suffering
424
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,680
for a long time,
and we couldn't get to them...
425
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,160
is... heartbreaking.
426
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,320
When I wake up in the morning,
427
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,640
I'm perfectly well aware
428
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,920
that, since that day, uh,
when the news came through,
429
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,400
my world would be completely different...
430
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,960
because...
431
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,240
I never saw a way in which Tom
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00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,600
would come to grieve on mountains early.
433
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,320
Goes right down the side...
434
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,040
It still doesn't seem real sometimes.
435
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,320
You know, I don't,
I don't think it isn't real,
436
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,360
but it is difficult to see it as real.
437
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,120
I think you just have to accept
438
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,680
that Tom is not coming back...
439
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,640
just like his mum didn't,
440
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,640
and you have to work out
a way of living with it.
441
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,360
The last floods, Tom,
were just after your mum died,
442
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,520
and it was like the mountain
shedding tears for her.
443
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,400
It just rained and rained
and stormed and stormed.
444
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,600
And it washed all the roads out.
445
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,520
Your mum's spirit is still here.
446
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,440
It's only your mum's body that's gone.
447
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,056
That doesn't matter, Tom,
your mum's spirit is in
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00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,400
all these mountains,
she's probably just coming back
449
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840
from a good day's climbing today.
450
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,736
There'll be no rest for anybody
now that your mum's around.
451
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,760
Oh, dear.
452
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,400
In 1995 dad brought Tom
and I here for a journey to K2,
453
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,200
which was mum's last mountain.
454
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,000
But now the most important
thing for me is, I'm going to
455
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,640
trek to Nanga Parbat base camp
to visit Tom's last mountain.
456
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,160
It's kind of history repeating itself.
457
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,360
I was only four at the time.
458
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,920
And, yeah, so the only part
of the trek I remember
459
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,360
is that I had a minder.
460
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,520
I had Big Ibrahim, as we called him,
461
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,560
and I, I remember his smell.
462
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,160
I remember his smell.
A nice smell, not a bad smell.
463
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Just a, a warm, safe smell from,
464
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,560
'cause I think I slept a lot
on his, on his neck.
465
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920
I just remember him
always looking after me.
466
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Dear Mr. Jim
and Miss Kate.
467
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,920
When I heard Tom was
climbing Nanga Parbat
468
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,320
I wanted to go
to Base Camp to greet him.
469
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,639
I would have been happy to see him
470
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,520
after such a long time.
471
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,639
And Tom would have been
very surprised to see me.
472
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,320
But it was not to be.
473
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,760
May Allah grant you
strength.
474
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,880
And if you ever
come to Pakistan,
475
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,840
please come to visit
me in my home.
476
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,120
I wanna go across the bridge.
477
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:43,960
You wanna go across the bridge?
478
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,400
You're gonna cross the bridge
with Ibrahim?
479
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,760
I think you can go anywhere
with Ibrahim.
480
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,360
I feel a little bit nervous.
481
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,000
Not nervous, but I've got butterflies.
482
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,080
So it's been 25 years
since I've seen him.
483
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Pretty excited.
484
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,480
Yeah, have a look.
485
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,000
- That's him.
- Yeah.
486
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,680
Can I come?
Okay, I'll leave it down here.
487
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,960
- Hello.
- Hello, how are you?
488
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,200
- How do you?
- Uh, good.
489
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,560
- Good? Yeah, yeah. Welcome.
- Thank you for having me here.
490
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,200
- You're well? Yes. Yes.
- Yes. You're well? Okay.
491
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,800
- Long time.
- Yes. Yes, yes.
492
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,960
I'm big now.
493
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,800
Still smaller than you.
494
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,320
- Good?
- Yes.
495
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,720
Just to translate, yes.
496
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,120
It's good to be here.
497
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,320
Yeah. Yeah.
498
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,280
So, how are you feeling
to see Kate again?
499
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,800
He cannot feel his express...
He cannot feel his express.
500
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,440
- He's so emotional.
- Yeah, same.
501
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,720
He feels very regretted because
502
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,400
it is, somehow it is very nice to see her,
503
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,520
but some o-other point,
504
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,640
it's very sad to see her
without her brother
505
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,760
because she was, he was carrying her
506
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,640
as a, like, child and with his,
with her brother,
507
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,400
and now it is so, so hard
to see her. Yeah.
508
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:21,760
He said I always hoped
I would see her again.
509
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,720
Okay.
510
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,320
Well done. Thank you, Ibrahim.
511
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,800
- Are we there, daddy?
- This is it, love. Yeah.
512
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,280
Thank you.
513
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,000
I also brought for you...
514
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,520
because it's my favorite photograph.
515
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,680
Sleeping, no?
516
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,800
Can you remember,
was Kate heavy on your shoulder?
517
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,640
- Yeah, little heavy.
- -No.
518
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,200
But...
519
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,360
I'm happy Tom and my mum are here.
520
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,560
Yeah.
521
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,440
If anywhere they could be...
522
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,040
it's the most beautiful place in the world
523
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,960
and it's where they wanted to be.
524
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,040
I can, dad.
525
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,880
Oh, look at the mountains, dad.
Look. They're stunning.
526
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,040
I know, the, the sun has come
out again, it's licking
527
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,240
the top of that. That's 6400
meters above sea level.
528
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,080
Big Ibrahim, he has
welcomed us into his home,
529
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,000
and we've had tea and biscuits,
530
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,400
and now he'll join us
on our trek to Nanga Parbat.
531
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,120
- Bye-bye. Bye.
- Yeah.
532
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,280
- Bye.
- Bye.
533
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,960
Somehow the stars
have aligned and we will,
534
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,520
God willing, see Nanga Parbat today.
535
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,160
And actually, it's a very
special day today.
536
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:28,120
It's, it's Tom's birthday today.
Tom would be 31 today.
537
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,920
Happy birthday, Tom.
538
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,720
Even before I was born,
I climbed, uh, the Eiger,
539
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,560
inside my mum's, uh, tummy.
540
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,120
She was, um, six months pregnant with me.
541
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,056
I think she had to find it
a bit difficult with her bump
542
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,360
to squeeze through.
543
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,120
And then when I was first born,
544
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,320
I was always exposed to this environment,
545
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,880
um, and so that must be...
546
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,320
I mean, mountains
are in my blood, I guess.
547
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,000
Mummy?
548
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,216
Good job you're going, isn't it?
549
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:32,520
Good job.
550
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,880
I think you've always got
that thing inside you
551
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,136
that says, you know, whether
you want to be a footballer
552
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,440
or, or anything like that.
553
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,400
Inside you, you know what you want to be
554
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,120
and you know what you want to do.
555
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,880
It's kind of your calling, if you like.
556
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,440
So then I had kind of,
you know, I had a vision
557
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,720
of, you know, I, I knew
what I wanted to do then.
558
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,600
So it's not just a physical thing,
559
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,160
but quite a spiritual experience?
560
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,680
Very much so, yes. Mm.
561
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,400
Definitely, yeah.
562
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,576
So when you're on
the mountains, when you're
563
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,920
climbing, you're in touch
564
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,256
with something deeper within you?
565
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Yes. Yes.
566
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,216
But you never know quite what it is.
567
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,200
It's just, you know, it feels right.
568
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,720
You can tell
that he's totally in control.
569
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,880
Totally at peace with himself.
570
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,040
You know, he's now about
70, 80 feet above the floor,
571
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,680
and, I mean, I know as a realist
that if he falls off now,
572
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,920
or certainly fell off higher up,
573
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,040
the chances are he's gonna get
very seriously hurt.
574
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,120
I've always thought
there is quite a definite line
575
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,640
between good adventure and danger.
576
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,760
And the trick is to make sure
577
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,200
you've always got your feet on the line,
578
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,120
and you don't step over it.
579
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,160
When he's older, it's up to him
580
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:38,360
how far he takes himself
to the edge of that line.
581
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,640
- Do you remember?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
582
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:57,720
- Yeah.
- I tried to carry to you.
583
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,400
- You carry him also.
- Yeah, yeah, also.
584
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Yeah. You carried both.
585
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,520
This is Kipper, and this came
from, this came from my mum.
586
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,920
- So, so it's always with me.
- Yeah, yeah.
587
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,080
I don't know how much
I remember of my mum
588
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,320
and how much I know of my mum
589
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,400
from her appearance in film
590
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,400
and magazines and newspapers,
591
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,840
and my stories that my dad has told me.
592
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,760
It's difficult to differentiate
what's my true memories
593
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,080
and what's come from outside.
594
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,400
Although her physical form is not here,
595
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,520
I feel her in every way,
596
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,800
and especially in the mountains.
597
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,120
Now with Tom also being lost here,
it's like I have to spend
598
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,080
even more time here
because it's where they are.
599
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,720
Now look, this is Nanga Parbat.
600
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,960
- Big lump of a mountain.
- It is, isn't it?
601
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,280
It's ginormous,
and we're still very far away.
602
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,400
It's, it's breathtaking.
603
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,080
I can understand
why he wanted to climb it.
604
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,880
I wanna climb it, too.
605
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,520
Tom was a mountaineer through and through.
606
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,240
He was born to be on the mountains.
607
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,440
He got all of mum's gift
for mountaineering.
608
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,440
And I didn't.
609
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,000
Whoo-hoo!
610
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,840
In my teenage years
611
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,800
I found myself very jealous
of Tom's genius...
612
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,240
Yeah, nice. Brilliant.
613
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,080
...of how talented he was.
614
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,520
Not only that, but also his drive
615
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,840
and how passionate he was
about a certain thing.
616
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,960
And I was always like this,
like that, enjoyed this,
617
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,000
enjoyed that, loved this, loved that.
618
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,440
Hey, hey, hey, hut, hut, hut...
619
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,320
Tom, there was one thing and
it was mountaineering climbing.
620
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,280
And that I envied
621
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,720
'cause he just knew.
622
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,520
Aw, fucker!
623
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,000
Fuck!
624
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,040
This is the kitchen, um, food is
hanging up from various places,
625
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,960
so we can't be attacked
by any animals, wild animals.
626
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,400
Mainly meat. Um, we have the stove.
627
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,960
Uh, all the implement...
Just a normal kitchen, really.
628
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,720
Also sort of partly living room.
Uh, quite open plan.
629
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,720
Um, plenty of fresh air,
good ventilation and nice view.
630
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,080
Uh, stone's throw away from the river.
631
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,440
Yeah, and show me where you sleep.
632
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,680
Uh, uh, I sleep in the van.
633
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,480
The big tent, my father sleeps in there.
634
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,976
That's where we keep
all the stuff in there.
635
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,840
And I sleep in, in the van.
636
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,920
Uh, obviously, it's full
of climbing gear and...
637
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,200
- Uh, Comfortable?
- Yeah, it's very comfortable.
638
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,320
Yeah. Very comfortable.
Uh, in winter it's a bit cold.
639
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,360
And do you miss living in a,
in a house with a bedroom-
640
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:21,600
Not especially, but... no.
Not especially, no.
641
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,440
- You're used to this now?
- Well, yeah.
642
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,320
Been living like this, or even
just without the kitchen,
643
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,680
just with the van, uh,
for the last, uh, four or five years,
644
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,080
so it's quite normal for me now.
645
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:45,360
There is something
very simple and very primeval
646
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,960
about having only one thing to do.
647
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,240
We had nothing else to do
but climb the routes
648
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,720
that Tom wanted to climb.
649
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,680
We just had enough money.
650
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,320
We just had enough equipment
in the early days.
651
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,240
And that's what we did,
652
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,640
which is what made Tom what he was.
653
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,000
His training was like you would
train for Olympics.
654
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,680
Today dry tooling. Ah.
655
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,720
Training for the winter...
656
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,160
in summer.
657
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:24,920
Yeah.
658
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,720
This is not winter.
We're not, we're not tough.
659
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,680
It's, uh, virtual ice,
virtual snow.
660
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,200
Yeah, you have to imagine it's cold,
661
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,080
there is ice, there is snow.
662
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,960
When I'm climbing I become
a part of the mountain itself
663
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,320
and that, and that becomes a part of me.
664
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,760
Um, like, for instance, I'm, I'm
a moving rock or a piece of ice.
665
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,680
You're becoming more,
more in tune with the mountain.
666
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,240
It's a completely different experience.
667
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,280
Because of my sort
of circumstances and my,
668
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,960
the way I am personally
669
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,360
and the fact that I prefer
to be on my own,
670
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,160
I prefer to be away from people.
671
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,096
And the way we sort of live
in a campsite, I think
672
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,920
that's just a help
because I've become fitter.
673
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,280
Always training. He never stopped.
674
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,240
He had, uh, super energy.
675
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,600
I always thought he wasn't, uh,
he wasn't part of this world.
676
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,440
He was like, uh, an alien.
677
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:04,880
- Do you say an alien?
- An alien.
678
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,640
An alien. An alien. Yeah, yeah.
679
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:10,760
He wasn't human.
680
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,960
How did I fall in love with Tom?
681
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,280
Uh, I liked him, first of all,
because he was different.
682
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,960
He had a completely different lifestyle.
683
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,000
Out of the ordinary, you know?
684
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:53,920
No, he was cool, I mean,
because he was authentic.
685
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,840
He was a, a pure person.
686
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,920
He just liked to climb, to be in nature
687
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,680
and to live as he wanted
was important for him.
688
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,400
Of course he made room in his life for me
689
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,320
because we climbed together.
690
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,760
It wouldn't have been possible
if I wasn't a climber.
691
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,000
He wouldn't even have started.
692
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:27,040
I like my life with him because
693
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,000
we could have adventures together,
694
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,920
we could share things.
695
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,680
And that's the most important thing.
696
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,200
The first time actually
we kissed,
697
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,440
it was, uh, when we climbed
the first route,
698
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,920
the first ascent of Baptism
of Fire, actually, called it.
699
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,840
Uh, and, yeah, we were both,
uh, 26 when we met.
700
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Now tilting your head.
701
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:01,880
- Ha-ha. Yeah, it's funny.
- Funny?
702
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,760
- Back with the... Like this?
- Yes.
703
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,120
When I first knew him,
he wasn't well known.
704
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,200
Oh, proper climate, eh?
705
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,720
But the project that made him stand out
706
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,240
was the six north faces.
707
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,160
He was called to do lectures,
708
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,560
they made a film of him.
709
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,360
And so I think his life changed,
710
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,800
and everybody wanted to know him for sure,
711
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,960
somebody so special.
712
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,360
- Hello.
- Hi, nice to meet you.
713
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,040
I met your mother a few times.
714
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,120
In the, in the '80s. And I did
a book on women climbing.
715
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,496
- Yeah, "Women On Top."
- And in this book...
716
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,520
I say openly she was
the greatest mountaineer ever.
717
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,280
- Yeah, I think that's true.
- She's not yet...
718
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,360
No, no one's even close, I think.
Nobody's even got close.
719
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,880
Isn't that the son
of that lady
720
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:01,680
I'm mad about him.
721
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,840
And he's so strong
and handsome.
722
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,920
And you're now becoming
a professional mountaineer?
723
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,880
- Yeah.
- Okay. Okay. All the best.
724
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,360
Thank you very much. After you.
725
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,480
Congratulations.
726
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,720
Ah, thank you very much.
727
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,200
You are very, very figo.
728
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,600
How do you say "figo"?
729
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,400
Everybody loved Tom.
730
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,240
Everybody loved Tom.
731
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,160
My mum was in love with him, oh, my God.
732
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:31,160
Everybody was in love
in my family with Tom.
733
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:33,360
My brothers loved him.
734
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,800
- Gracias.
- You're welcome.
735
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,280
He was simple.
736
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,960
He was simple and very nice
with everybody.
737
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,280
- Have a nice evening.
- Ciao.
738
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,360
But then, of course,
he couldn't judge people and...
739
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,280
Like a child, you know,
740
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,080
that you give him a sweet, he takes it
741
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,800
even if it's not good.
742
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,600
Here comes our guest of honor
Daniele, how are you doing?
743
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,920
Daniele is a great
mountaineer.
744
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,640
And has had
some great triumphs.
745
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:13,016
The first thing
I thought when we met was
746
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,000
you're not a typical mountaineer
747
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,760
I was expecting someone
from the North of Italy.
748
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,840
But, instead, I discovered
you're from Lattina in the South.
749
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,360
Yes, actually I come
from Sezze in Lattina
750
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,800
I come from the hills to go
and climb the 8000m peaks
751
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,040
Daniele always,
uh, wanted to be recognized
752
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,520
as a good mountaineer.
753
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,400
He said he felt like
he was always an outcaster
754
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,240
because he, he came from the south,
755
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,160
because he was not, he told me,
756
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:47,080
"For-for most people in Italy,
I'm not credible."
757
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,320
He wanted to be credible as a mountaineer
758
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,760
because all the important,
the biggest mountaineers, uh,
759
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,360
Italian mountaineers, are from the north.
760
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,960
Here people take the boat
and go to sea, you know?
761
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,920
They don't climb the mountains,
so he was a, he was an outcast,
762
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,840
but he was also a real fighter.
763
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,640
Whoo! Windy!
764
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,360
He was 42,
so he was much older than Tom.
765
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,400
An impressive Himalayan record.
766
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,320
Climbed some big peaks.
767
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,160
But I've never met the guy,
768
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:38,920
I'd never heard of him until Tom told me
769
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,840
that Daniele had suggested
they become climbing partners.
770
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,040
And I think that Daniele
realized what a tour de force
771
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,400
Tom was capable of delivering.
772
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,040
- Soft snow, huh?
- Yeah, it's not very nice.
773
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,560
The first time we met Daniele,
it was in Germany 2016.
774
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,120
He went climbing with him, and, yeah,
775
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,320
for sure he had some experience, Daniele,
776
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,680
I won't say no,
777
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,400
but for sure he wasn't even
close as talented as Tom.
778
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,600
Tom, he was... how you say?
In Italian we say...
779
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,640
He was one of the best in the world.
780
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,680
- Tom?
- Tom, yeah.
781
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,120
We've reached the top.
782
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,040
Yeah!
783
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,280
Daniele told me
that Tom was very strong,
784
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,160
very technical and very focused.
785
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,640
And Daniele thought that
he could be a good companion.
786
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,400
The best companion, maybe.
787
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,800
I'm organizing an
expedition to Pakistan.
788
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,760
To climb an 8000m peak
in winter.
789
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,640
It's a very difficult
mountain to climb.
790
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,680
Which 8000m peak?
791
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,680
Nanga Parbat.
792
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,760
By yourself?
793
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,840
No, with Daniele Nardi.
794
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,960
For him, Nanga Parbat
has always been a dream.
795
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,120
He's already tried to
climb it four times.
796
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,760
I like climbing
with him.
797
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,920
So I said I'll come
with you whenever you want.
798
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,800
And so, this winter
we're going to give it a go.
799
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,360
I wasn't happy
about him going there.
800
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,920
And I tried to convince,
to persuade him not to go.
801
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,640
But then I also thought,
"Okay, I can't really,
802
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,760
because it is his life,
803
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,880
and if he wants to go, he must go."
804
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,920
This expedition
was going to be.
805
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,080
Daniele's fifth attempt to the summit,
806
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,360
but through the Mummery Spur.
807
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,360
He always told me at the beginning,
808
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,160
"I'm not going to Nanga Parbat,
809
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,600
I'm going to the Mummery Spur."
810
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,200
"The Mummery Spur
is the challenge for me."
811
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,560
There are various routes up Nanga Parbat,
812
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,960
the Kinshofer Route and the Messner Route,
813
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,640
but Daniele wasn't interested in those.
814
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,760
He wanted to go up Nanga Parbat
through the Mummery Spur,
815
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,040
which has still not been climbed.
816
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,920
He loved that route because he told me
817
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,200
that it was the most direct to the top
818
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,800
and it was, uh, it was the most elegant.
819
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,880
If you look at the mountain,
820
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,200
it's like a finger pointing to the top,
821
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,600
and he was in love with this fact.
822
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,440
He was with love, in love
with the elegance, you know?
823
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,800
But he talked also about the fact
824
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,040
that this sport could be very dangerous.
825
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,720
Super dangerous. Super dangerous.
826
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,320
It's one of the craziest places
827
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,320
that I ever been in my life, believe me.
828
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,920
It's much more dangerous and risky
829
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,440
than, than, than hard and technical.
830
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,560
It's so dangerous, I will show
you right now. Look at here.
831
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,040
These seracs is totally crazy.
832
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,920
This is huge, great blocks of ice?
833
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,840
Yes, it's all, it's ice, and it's more
834
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,200
than 100 meters of height.
835
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,560
When this serac fell down,
836
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,040
even the avalanches
reached to the base camp,
837
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,200
And-and-and-this is like
an, it's big explosion.
838
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,600
It's, it's, it's huge.
It's massive. It's giant.
839
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,520
Avalanches fall
every week.
840
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,600
Every day,
Sometimes 5 a day.
841
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,720
My brother and I were
forced to come down
842
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:30,520
this route in 1970
in order to save our lives.
843
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,200
But sadly, my brother
then died in an avalanche.
844
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,960
I would only say that
845
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,920
it's best not to go
to that place.
846
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,440
But, everyone has the right
847
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,880
to choose where
they kill themselves.
848
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,960
So when you heard that
Daniele and Tom wanted to climb
849
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,280
the Mummer Spur at that time
of the year...
850
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,920
I wasn't scared,
this, this 7th of January,
851
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,320
I wasn't scared because I knew
852
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,240
that Daniele has the experience.
853
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,240
But with Nanga Parbat,
854
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,080
sometimes I think
climber will become obsessed,
855
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,360
and I think Daniele
was a little bit obsessed
856
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,640
with-with Mummery Spur.
857
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,520
For me, Mummery is
the best dream I can imagine.
858
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,520
Okay, so I use all my energy
859
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,520
and my power to do it for three years.
860
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,960
Daniele Nardi was with us
861
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,160
on the attempts on Nanga Parbat
2014/15, 15/16.
862
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,000
- You sure of that?
- Yes, I bring 2000 meter rope.
863
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:41,000
He knew very well that we show
to the world that Nanga Parbat
864
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,160
was possible in winter
by the Kinshofer Route.
865
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,360
But for Daniele that's not enough,
the classical route.
866
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,720
Daniele Nardi wants to show,
in my opinion,
867
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,560
to the world, that I'm here,
868
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,440
I'm Daniele Nardi and I will try
from Mummery route.
869
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,160
If I introduced you as
a madman trying to kill himself.
870
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,560
Would that be fair?
871
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,760
Not really,
I'm looking for life.
872
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,080
But I am quite mad,
in a way.
873
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,880
How many bodies are
there on Nanga Parbat?
874
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,880
Lots. Too many.
Too many dead.
875
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,360
This is your 5th attempt.
876
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,680
Isn't it a bit
of an obsession?
877
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,160
If you make it to
the top, what will you do?
878
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,600
I think I might cry.
879
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:20,800
And if you don't come
back?
880
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,096
How would you like to
be remembered?
881
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,160
Wow! Good question.
882
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,840
Daniele was a good climber,
883
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,280
but, I think, was drunk on ambition.
884
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,200
But for Tom,
885
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,760
you know, if you are driving
in a car, okay, I'm...
886
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,200
How you say in English?
Say high... when you're...
887
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,680
- Hitchhiking.
- Hitchhiking? The...
888
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,000
And the car stop to you, "hey, hello."
889
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,120
But you are with a, a man
that is totally drunk
890
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,760
and you take the decision to go with him,
891
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,960
and then you crash, and both of you died.
892
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,280
You know you take your decision.
893
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,160
Uh, climbing,
alpinism is not for heroes.
894
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,240
It's not a right thing that
895
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,080
you must be there in danger for months.
896
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,520
It wasn't Tom's style.
897
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,600
I mean, it was completely stupid.
898
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,360
Before he left, he left some
stuff here in Fassa Valley
899
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,240
in my house, and I thought,
900
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,320
"Fuck, this may be
is the last time he is here."
901
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,080
I had that feeling it was
the last time I would see him.
902
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,640
I don't know. Strange.
Premonition, you call it?
903
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,080
Oh. Yeah.
904
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:49,680
Stay in touch, be connected
to our Facebook profile
905
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,440
because we send you our photo,
Twitter, Instagram.
906
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,240
- Please.
- Every hour.
907
01:04:55,320 --> 01:05:00,520
Follow us, Nardi and Ballard, to Pakistan.
908
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,720
Be connected.
909
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:06,520
Yeah! Ooh.
910
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,400
I think we're nearing Halala Bridge.
911
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,160
It seems to be the, uh,
starting point for our trek.
912
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,000
I just feel so happy from inside.
913
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,280
I can't, I can't stop smiling,
even though, obviously,
914
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,640
it's, it's horrible circumstances.
915
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,720
But it doesn't take away the beauty
916
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,080
and the joy of the mountains
in this place.
917
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,960
I think, for Kate,
918
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,160
it comes down to a trip of two halves.
919
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,280
I think first of all
920
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,880
there's the joy of meeting
with Big Ibrahim.
921
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,120
Then, I think, she'll enjoy
seeing, uh, where Tom lies,
922
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:18,280
and, uh, covering the terrain
that Tom covered.
923
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,080
Except, of course, it will be
entirely different in the sense
924
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,880
that, that she's there's in autumn
925
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,440
and he was there in deep winter.
926
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,680
The army you're not behind the plough.
927
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,840
You're in the army now.
928
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,520
You're in the army now.
929
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,600
You're not behind a plough
You'll never get rich...
930
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:51,120
25 years later,
I'm still walking with Katie.
931
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,720
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
932
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,320
It's great. I love it. Yeah.
933
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,160
Oh, it just feels so natural, it's nice.
934
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,080
- But happy. Yeah, yeah.
- Happy?
935
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,280
Together we walk.
936
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,400
He's happy that I'm walking
and not on his shoulders.
937
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:11,040
You know? Yeah, yeah.
938
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,200
I don't think that the
roles have changed in any way.
939
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:22,319
He's most definitely still my minder,
and looking after me.
940
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:26,640
But I'm very conscious
of, of his health as well.
941
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:32,880
It's slightly worrying a little
bit how heavy he's breathing.
942
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,640
He had to stop a lot and, um,
943
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,920
he just doesn't seem like
he's in the best of shapes.
944
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,279
He's retired, so it's understandable.
945
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:45,720
But we're walking together the whole way,
946
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,880
so we'll take care of each other.
947
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:15,720
Nice snow.
948
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:19,000
- You're enjoying?
- Yeah, it's good fun.
949
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,000
Not so easy with these boots, but...
950
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,319
- Yeah.
- Better than walking.
951
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:26,840
- Sure. With snowshoes.
- Ha-ha...
952
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,399
I spent with them, uh,
953
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,880
three weeks going to the base camp,
954
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,880
then I spent some days there,
and then I came back.
955
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:42,319
And, um, I had the feeling
that Tom was really,
956
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:45,439
at the beginning,
was really excited to be there.
957
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,520
And, uh, they were really nice
together. Really nice.
958
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,600
They took care of each other
in a, in a very tender way.
959
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,360
They were like brothers.
960
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,880
And they, they just could look each other
961
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,720
and understand what they were
thinking or what to do.
962
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,440
I don't know Tom so well.
963
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,240
He was so sweet,
but I think there was anger.
964
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,320
Like, uh, a knot of anger
965
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,920
that can explode sometimes.
966
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,880
And, uh...
967
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:37,840
yes, and sadness, yeah.
968
01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:46,560
I think he also felt the pressure
969
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,360
of being Alison's son.
970
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,640
All these stories about his mother,
971
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:02,320
how great she was, uh,
how extraordinary she was.
972
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,000
She was an inspiration,
but she was also, um,
973
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,240
a very heavy heritage.
974
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,760
The way she died
975
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,960
put her in a place
where now she's untouchable.
976
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,920
Higher, higher, higher.
977
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,000
Bit right, bit right.
978
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,000
Not good.
979
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,616
- Yeah!
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
980
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,160
- Go!
- Go!
981
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,240
I don't know how
you organized this expedition
982
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,120
without beer, without wine, without vodka,
983
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,400
without whisky?
984
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,800
No brandy. Fuck.
985
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,720
Karim, really, I do it
986
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,760
because you are Pakistani, so I told-
987
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,440
Come on, man. Why you didn't ask us?
988
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,920
Because I say they are Islam,
989
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,880
they pray five times a day, so...
990
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,320
Islam is moderate Islam now.
991
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,600
- More?
- Yeah, we can drink.
992
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,720
- Really?
- Yeah.
993
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,520
I love it.
994
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,400
In the beginning it was, uh,
995
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,720
you know, it was first time with them.
996
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,800
Four of us, you know,
we had a good relation,
997
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,920
we were understanding each other.
998
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,360
We were learning
from each other, you know?
999
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:35,000
We had a good team I think, yeah.
1000
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,760
Here, Mr. Rahmat.
1001
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:42,160
And, uh, Tom wants to try
some overhangings.
1002
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,040
Wow, great, man.
1003
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,680
Tom was the youngest in our team.
1004
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,720
Was really great person.
1005
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,720
And I thought this is
a good partner, you know?
1006
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,880
It snowed over yesterday,
1007
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,920
so I'm breaking the trail to camp one.
1008
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,320
Um, we gotta find a new way
across the glacier
1009
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,520
because the, the way that we came last,
1010
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,280
uh, the serac is falling down.
1011
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,120
Very cold today. Very clear.
1012
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,120
Absolutely amazing.
1013
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,920
Uh, it's very cold,
we'll stay here tonight,
1014
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,680
then move up to camp two
or here in camp three tomorrow,
1015
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,440
depending on the snow conditions.
1016
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,200
Hopefully there'll be some avalanches
tonight, clear the snow,
1017
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,920
otherwise it's gonna be hard work.
1018
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,520
Basically, it's like a
complete white-out.
1019
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,080
We decided to come here
to Camp 2
1020
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,040
even in these terrible
conditions.
1021
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,560
It hasn't got any worse but it
hasn't got any better either.
1022
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,200
So we're in a bit of an
odd situation.
1023
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,960
We're taking a bit
of a risk but
1024
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,560
we're going to check
Camp 2 and then go back down.
1025
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,160
Beautiful, though.
1026
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,040
Living in the wildness
of nature like this.
1027
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,000
It's truly incredible.
1028
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,680
I have seen huge,
huge crevices there that,
1029
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,320
which I didn't see before.
1030
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,920
It was terrifying
and we have emotions
1031
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,520
to reach higher and higher,
1032
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,640
but if something happened
while climbing there,
1033
01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:18,880
you won't survive.
1034
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,120
Weather's not the best today,
1035
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,840
but, uh, it's hard work
1036
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,280
on the way to camp three.
1037
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,600
Tough snow.
1038
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:37,840
It's the strangest.
1039
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:40,760
Fortunately not too cold.
1040
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,040
Cold enough.
1041
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,120
Hard work.
1042
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,840
Three days, four days, five days.
1043
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,000
Sometimes seven days snowfall.
1044
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:04,120
It destroyed the trail,
it destroyed the camps.
1045
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,920
- Oh. It's gone.
- Yeah.
1046
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,680
If it were, I'm sure it's still there.
1047
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,440
And I think everything inside
will be fine,
1048
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,840
but, you know, the tent,
I don't know, maybe it's broken.
1049
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,440
- Poles may be broken.
- This very place.
1050
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,840
Somewhere underneath
the snow is the tent.
1051
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,720
From this... it's come down, you know?
1052
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,280
Yeah, yeah.
1053
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,120
That line leads to the tent.
1054
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,120
Somewhere underneath the snow.
1055
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,840
Just stupid. I mean...
1056
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,960
He should have been organized
one month before.
1057
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,920
He didn't take much to think about that.
1058
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,280
If you know that
it's very snowy in February...
1059
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,200
I mean, it's not snowy like here.
1060
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,840
Also here you can die from an avalanche.
1061
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,920
But there, why you want to be
there in February?
1062
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,600
Yeah.
1063
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,640
I don't understand.
1064
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,760
I mean, you lose your life.
You're playing with your life.
1065
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,840
I didn't thought that Tom was so reckless.
1066
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,920
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
1067
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:30,520
- Yeah.
- Okay.
1068
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,120
Two hours to find the day.
1069
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,520
- The tent.
- The tent. One tent.
1070
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,120
We need to find that, the other one
1071
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,040
under one m-meter of, of snow.
1072
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,360
I think the Yeti stole the tent.
1073
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:45,000
Yeti.
1074
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,920
Do you think we'll find
another tent tomorrow?
1075
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,600
- I hope so.
- We have to find.
1076
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,680
If we don't find,
we no have more kambals
1077
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,120
for you and for Rahmat.
1078
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,600
Yeah, that's a big problem.
1079
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:57,920
It's a problem.
1080
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:39,040
So we, uh, arrived at camp three,
1081
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,360
but, uh, it doesn't exist anymore.
1082
01:20:41,440 --> 01:20:43,760
Camp three is buried underneath the snow.
1083
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,736
Uh, we dug three holes, three tunnels.
1084
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,120
Can't find anything at all.
1085
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,120
Um, and now the,
1086
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,600
uh, the wind is picking up high up.
1087
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,920
Uh, some very interesting clouds.
1088
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,440
So time to go down.
1089
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,520
Uh, we have to go back down to base camp,
1090
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,040
uh, reorganize, and then, uh,
1091
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,680
when the weather's good, try again.
1092
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,360
In this moment, in this moment
1093
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:16,680
I decided to stop climbing here...
1094
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,880
because I felt this is a signal
1095
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:23,640
to leave the mountain.
1096
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:32,120
I told Daniele, "Look, Daniele,
1097
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,120
it's time to go out."
1098
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:40,280
And what he said, "Karim, I know
this mountain very well."
1099
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,160
"I want to reach the summit."
1100
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,520
I said, "It's up to you."
1101
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,160
"I don't want to lose my life here."
1102
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:54,520
And I told them... I want to go.
1103
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,680
And he, he, he said, "Are you scared?"
1104
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,760
I said, "No, I'm not scared."
1105
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,440
"I'm not scared, but I can come back,
1106
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:08,920
"I can climb again."
1107
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,520
When Tom brought my
gear, which I left in camp two,
1108
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,960
and he brought his harness,
1109
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,520
I thought he would, uh,
abandon the expedition
1110
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,440
and join me to return to home.
1111
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,280
Of course, he was listening the mountains
1112
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,760
and watching the weather,
1113
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,360
watching the dangerous conditions.
1114
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:52,760
I don't know why he didn't
listen at the end,
1115
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,640
at the last moment, at the last chance,
1116
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,600
that he continued.
1117
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,360
This I didn't understand.
1118
01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:17,200
When they had to stay almost 20 days
1119
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,200
after me in base camp...
1120
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,840
they didn't realize the danger
from the mountain.
1121
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:36,680
I think Daniele convinced Tom
1122
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,360
that they can reach the summit.
1123
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,360
I don't know, I think that guy...
1124
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:56,520
Tom, he never judged people.
1125
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:00,320
He never said even half
a bad word about anybody.
1126
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,040
He couldn't even see
1127
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,920
if a person was using him in any way.
1128
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:14,520
And I'm really scared is that
he, that guy manipulated him.
1129
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,120
For sure, I can tell you
1130
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,120
that Daniele didn't manipulate Tom.
1131
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,160
It was not manipulation.
1132
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,840
Tom was really much smarter than this.
1133
01:24:31,480 --> 01:24:36,360
It was like saying that he was
a little bit dumb, you know?
1134
01:24:36,440 --> 01:24:38,120
Little bit stupid.
1135
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,600
Tom was brilliant.
He was not stupid, not at all.
1136
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,680
You don't go to Nanga Parbat
1137
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:53,040
if you're not really, really committed.
1138
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,600
I don't know why
Tom was committed, but he was.
1139
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,280
What a fantastic evening.
1140
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:06,360
Look at the light. Incredible.
1141
01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:09,040
But absolutely stunning.
1142
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,680
I'm a moving rock or a piece of ice.
1143
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,760
I have to be in harmony.
Pushing your own personal...
1144
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,960
Never fighting against
the mountain because you can't.
1145
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,656
They let you, and other times they won't.
1146
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:38,816
They'll always win in the end.
1147
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,440
We have to work with them.
1148
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,120
You have to be in harmony.
1149
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,120
The mountain
change you in a way
1150
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,680
that if you don't,
if you don't experience it,
1151
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,840
you cannot really understand it.
1152
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,920
You are... It can make you another person.
1153
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,440
Things or decisions that, uh,
1154
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,760
here you would never, never take,
1155
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,920
there they seem possible.
1156
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,520
I think that after two months there,
1157
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,200
probably they were not like us.
1158
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,680
Yes, for sure. For sure.
1159
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,120
They were functioning in another way...
1160
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,360
because their body changed there,
1161
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:42,120
deeply, strongly.
1162
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,760
I think he was skinnier.
He lost weight.
1163
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,520
He didn't look fine.
1164
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,600
I don't know,
I see sufferance in his eyes.
1165
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,120
I don't know why.
1166
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:04,200
I never been anxious about him that much.
1167
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:11,600
I say, "Now, now stop it, come back."
1168
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,200
I wanted to buy him a ticket
to come back also.
1169
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,760
The last message I sent him
1170
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,600
was that I'm not happy you're climbing,
1171
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,600
and I said, "It's dangerous," and he say,
1172
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,600
"Bah, no. It's my job."
1173
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,240
"If you don't like it, leave me.'
1174
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,280
I said then, "Better," I mean, because...
1175
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,120
I don't know, I wasn't happy.
1176
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:46,440
I don't know. He sent me a broken heart.
1177
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:50,000
That's it. We didn't leave
each other in a nice way.
1178
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:52,520
Mn-mm.
1179
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,760
It was very hard,
and then after a few days
1180
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,920
I said, "This has to be the end."
1181
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,440
"Love of my life, if I had
never told you."
1182
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:14,280
I was climbing
Nangi, too, at the time,
1183
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,760
but was asked to lead
the search for the two mens.
1184
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,600
Daniele Nardi and Tom Ballard,
they had not made contact
1185
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,600
with base camp for many days.
1186
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,200
Uh, the last communication,
it was with, uh, with Khaleel Bhai.
1187
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,920
They were on camp four on the,
on the ridge, on the Mummery.
1188
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,600
- YOU CAN, CAN YOU SEE THE CAVE?
- YES.
1189
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,760
- It's like a cave.
- Yes.
1190
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,040
They were somewhere in, in, in that area.
1191
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,280
Where is Mummery?
1192
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,440
All of the responsibility
from the family
1193
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,360
is my responsibility,
so I can't make any mistake,
1194
01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:49,120
and I must find, I must find.
1195
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,016
I'm moving from one side
of the helicopter to the other side,
1196
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,600
from one side, and, uh,
with one hand with my camera,
1197
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,280
yes, recording for something,
but I was with my eye
1198
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,520
and totally focused...
and cleaning the window.
1199
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,120
I press a little bit more
1200
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,280
for the pilot to slowly take me here,
1201
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,600
but, "No, Alex, the fuel,
the fuel, the fuel, the fuel,
1202
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,040
it's too risky, too risky."
1203
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:13,840
But I told him why we can't do
1204
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,920
just here, here, here, here, here?
1205
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,280
For me, this 35 minutes,
1206
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,440
they were, uh, eternal.
1207
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:33,840
I saw something strange
in one small rocky point
1208
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,440
and so I flew with drone.
1209
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,600
I saw first a pole, something like black
1210
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,800
and then something orange...
1211
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:57,120
and I think in my mind, "Oh,
if avalanche crashed to them
1212
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,200
and they were in their sleeping bags,
1213
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:00,680
was like, ooh,
1214
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,680
...going on in my, my body.
1215
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,680
Uh, and I start digging
and digging, digging,
1216
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,680
digging the snow.
1217
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,440
We find, uh, the camp two tent
1218
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,840
from Daniele and Tom totally destroyed.
1219
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:18,280
Inside, uh, we see one sleeping bags,
1220
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,520
some pickaxes, no mattresses.
1221
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:26,040
And as you can see here, nothing.
1222
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:27,840
No evidences of life.
1223
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,040
- Today ten days.
- Yes.
1224
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,840
I think Tom would've found...
1225
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,920
Well, I don't think,
I know Tom would've found
1226
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,200
the, the organizing rescues
1227
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,840
and people leaping in and out
of helicopters and all that
1228
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:47,600
really, really offensive.
1229
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,680
Tom would never expect anybody
to rescue him.
1230
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,120
Uh, nor would his mother.
1231
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,440
They would have expected
to get themselves off.
1232
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,360
If you can't get yourselves off
1233
01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:02,920
when you are playing the game at the top,
1234
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,200
then you don't deserve to come off.
1235
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,600
You know, the hardest
thing for me, Chris,
1236
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:20,600
was that I walk in their track.
1237
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:25,200
In their track that was made
by the foot of Tom and Daniele.
1238
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,360
This was the hardest moment
for me in this rescue action.
1239
01:33:29,440 --> 01:33:31,960
It was like a message,
it was like, something like,
1240
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:36,280
wow, so painful, this moment.
1241
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,200
On 5 of March,
we continued to climbing up.
1242
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,920
We-we did twice, okay?
Up and down, up and down.
1243
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:50,360
And we are here,
1244
01:33:50,440 --> 01:33:54,440
in the craziest place
that we can be there.
1245
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,960
Oh, this time very dangerous, the Mummery.
1246
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:01,680
So I think 200 meters and then
we are more safe, no, Ali?
1247
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,240
- Uh, but now we are not safe.
- Okay.
1248
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,280
Not sure, you know,
if they, some seracs fell down,
1249
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,440
we are not safe, not this time.
1250
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,520
Camp one, camp two...
Alex... Over!
1251
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,920
Get out of there!
1252
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,520
An avalanche has swept
the Mummery route...
1253
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,600
It's going to
camp 2... Get out!
1254
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,280
We hear all the time, the seracs,
1255
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,760
how they were crashing, you know?
1256
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,520
And we could not risk anymore,
any single life
1257
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,440
or any single second more
in this crazy place,
1258
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:56,440
so we moved to the base camp.
1259
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,920
We were, there was a telescope
at this point with a tripod.
1260
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,440
I-I took the telescope and
I thought, "Give me a chance."
1261
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,760
- Anchor there. Rope. Rope.
- Yes, yes, this is rope.
1262
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,520
And the, the bodies
are here, you see?
1263
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,120
Down. Look, look down. Look.
1264
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,760
In less than 15 seconds,
I found them.
1265
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,680
This is, you see rope? Fifteen seconds.
1266
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:19,920
Look, look, look, Alex, Alex.
1267
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:30,920
I found the anchor here,
1268
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:32,496
I follow down there,
down there, down there,
1269
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,680
and immediately here, as you can see here,
1270
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,840
this is Tom, down there on the fixed rope,
1271
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:40,680
and up is Daniele.
1272
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,600
When Alex Txikon
found them, finally at last...
1273
01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:57,280
and I knew how they were found,
1274
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,600
that they were close
1275
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,600
and linked with a rope,
1276
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,560
I thought that
at least they were not alone.
1277
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,120
- They were together.
- Yeah, they were together.
1278
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:21,960
- Good?
- Very nice.
1279
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:23,040
It was his destiny.
1280
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,520
I don't know, I don't, I don't
know if I believe in destiny.
1281
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:33,200
We choose. It's our path.
1282
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,120
And I can't blame anybody
about his death, you know?
1283
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:37,680
Because why?
1284
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:39,920
It's not even fair to blame
1285
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:41,760
the climber that he was with.
1286
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,360
He choose to be there, so it's not fair.
1287
01:36:44,440 --> 01:36:48,680
It was his choice,
and we have to respect it.
1288
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,280
Tom was, above all, a solo climber.
1289
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,600
That's where he excelled.
1290
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,840
And I have found myself at times thinking,
1291
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,440
I wish he'd have just stuck
to solo climbing.
1292
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,120
If he could've been soloing,
1293
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:13,360
i-it would've been
a different outcome for Tom.
1294
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:30,760
Tom was a mountain warrior.
1295
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,280
His mum was a mountain warrior.
1296
01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:38,760
You know, Tom will be 30 forever...
1297
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,680
at the peak of his physical...
1298
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,120
doing what he wanted to do,
1299
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,000
where he wanted to do.
1300
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,840
And if nature took him back,
there's nothing we can do...
1301
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,600
apart from raise our hats...
1302
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,520
to a life well-lived.
1303
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,680
Hey? You sad?
1304
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,760
Hey. Don't be sad.
1305
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,680
Look, there's a little cloud
right against it.
1306
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:17,120
Tom, there's a little cloud
right above the top of K2.
1307
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,360
Do you know it's your mum waving to you?
1308
01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:21,360
You see, there's one
little one there waving.
1309
01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:23,840
Looks like an angel's wings.
Can you see it?
1310
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,760
- Is that mummy?
- It could be.
1311
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,040
Can you see it? Right above the summit.
1312
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:31,360
Yeah. Is that mummy, daddy?
1313
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:34,240
Well, I think it's a sign
that your mum knows you're here.
1314
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,240
She's here, Tom.
1315
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,360
She's, she's always there, isn't she?
1316
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:41,920
That's right, she's always there.
1317
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:56,400
It is so sad when you
lose someone from your family.
1318
01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:59,840
A father, a mother
or a brother
1319
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:04,840
Kate is like an orphan
now which is very sad.
1320
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,760
When a person is facing
many problems.
1321
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,680
They can become
stronger in the end.
1322
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,760
Her mother is here
forever
1323
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:21,000
and now Tom is too.
1324
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:36,440
I wanted to...
1325
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,920
embrace the mountain.
1326
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:45,960
I wanted to see what he'd seen,
1327
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,360
try and understand
1328
01:39:48,440 --> 01:39:51,120
what went through his mind...
1329
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:54,280
and just try to get a grasp
1330
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:58,120
of, of how he might have felt being here.
1331
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,880
Nice snow.
1332
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:04,360
And I have completely achieved that.
1333
01:40:04,440 --> 01:40:07,360
And I know what has happened,
I know where he's gone,
1334
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:10,920
I know that his body is never coming back,
1335
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,440
but his spirit will live on forever.
1336
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:19,920
And it'll live on in me
and in the mountains
1337
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,920
and in everyone
that was ever close to him.
1338
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:25,200
Gonna turn and give me a smile?
1339
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:31,440
It's almost like mum's cradling him,
1340
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,200
and they'll be together forever now.
1341
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:46,920
I wish I could be with them.
1342
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,920
But I've still got dad,
1343
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:59,680
and dad and I
will pull through this together.
1344
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,760
And as hard as it is, we know...
1345
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,440
that they did what they wanted to do.
1346
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,680
Whoo-hoo! Yoo-hoo!
1347
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:06,120
It is difficult to
not dwell on what's happened,
1348
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:07,440
of course.
1349
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:13,680
And it's not something
that I'm over in that sense.
1350
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:15,760
It's, uh, it'll be an ongoing process,
1351
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:17,760
I think, my entire life.
1352
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,040
Then it'll get easier, hopefully,
1353
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:21,760
i-in years to come.
1354
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,280
But there is only forward to look.
1355
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:27,920
There's no point looking back.
I'm not going that way.
1356
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:30,520
That's a wonderful thing
to hear, Kate. Absolutely.
1357
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:37,600
I mean, I think since Tom died,
1358
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:42,040
Kate and I have developed a bond
1359
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:46,120
which is, I suppose,
really, truly spiritual.
1360
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:47,760
And th-that's how I feel.
1361
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:51,120
And the thing that I never expected to do
1362
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:55,760
was be able to share
her adventures and joys
1363
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,440
and sadnesses
1364
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,680
in a way that gave me
1365
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,760
unbelievable warmth and pleasure.
1366
01:43:14,440 --> 01:43:18,040
Coming from a climbing legacy,
1367
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:22,040
I always felt just great pride.
1368
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:26,760
But because mum and Tom
were so extraordinary,
1369
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:30,600
I almost have a duty to them
to be extraordinary, too,
1370
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,600
and not just be the average Joe
1371
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:34,960
and to be a little bit more special.
1372
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:01,200
My mum and brother,
the wind beneath my wings.
1373
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,200
I feel your heart beating.
1374
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:22,720
It's wonderful.
1375
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:25,416
Just like when I carried you
over to the window.
1376
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:28,360
It was a windowsill I carried
you over to, when you were born.
1377
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:32,760
It was.
1378
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,720
If I'd have known what a nuisance
you were, I'd have taken you back.
1379
01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:43,840
Have you got one in blue?
1380
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,480
Go, Kate, go.
1381
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,120
Keep waving.
1382
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:05,440
Oh, well done, lass.
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