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Something
cool about the desert.
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It
Is a trippy place.
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The obvious, big sky,
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vast amounts of space...
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Sounds cheesy
but you soak it up.
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And you know, I think that it
comes through in the music,
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it really does.
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If you live in the
middle of the city,
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there's places people go
where no one's around.
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Whereas in the desert, you know,
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I just have to go,
like, two streets over
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and I was looking at
basically a horizon,
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and I wouldn't see pavement,
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a building, or a power pole.
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It was on the edge of
infinity there, you know.
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I was like, "Fuck this, man.
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"There's nothing out here
and it's way too far away
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"from everything," you know,
'cause it was literally still,
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you know, not built yet.
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Coachella Valley,
this is our desert,
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this is the whole thing.
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10 East.
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Right there, boom.
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Highway 111, Palm Springs,
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yeah, coming right into town,
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this is where we are.
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Cathedral City, Rancho Mirage.
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That's all of Palm
Springs back in the '30s.
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Very little, right?
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My great-grandfather had a
cactus garden right there.
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He came to the desert
in the early 1900s
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and homesteaded,
pioneering white family,
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and took this thing
around finding water.
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So my granmda and my great-uncle
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were the first white people
born in Palm Springs,
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which sound insane,
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but it was just Indians.
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There was no, kind of weird,
second-class thing happening.
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They were poor white people
and they were poor Indians.
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* Waiting on a guilt trip
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* Sitting out the flu
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* Dying for a repeat
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* Taking it for two.
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This is my favorite
back route right here.
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This is the last
little neighborhood.
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Little zone.
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That used to be my
family's trailer park,
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now it's a Motel 6.
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* So low she rose
up like the sun
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* Up like the sun,
up like the sun
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* So low she rose
up like the sun *
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Best neighborhood in
Palm Springs right here.
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For as uptight as, you
know, America might be,
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you've got your leather
gay shop right there
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with all the, you know,
paddles, ball gags,
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locks and chambers,
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then you got killer
Mexican restaurant,
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and you got the Tool Shed,
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leather boy gay bar.
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And then you got all-nude
girls across the street,
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and you've got legalized
marijuana, Big I,
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right there too,
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so this is a very...
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It's a perfect
little neighborhood.
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You know, weed,
drugs, girls, boys,
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and good Mexican food.
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The
desert's great.
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Well, I appreciate it more now
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that I'm seven
hours away from it.
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* Lucifer's here
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* He sleeps in the rear
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* Can't understand him
and it's all that I hear.
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But there's
things I miss about it, though.
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It's nice to come back.
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We're setting the stuff up,
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everybody's gonna
have a good time.
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It's not as hot
as people thought,
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so everything seems good.
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It's how it goes.
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Try to make a nice
show for the people.
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Have some fun.
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There's venues down
in the desert now.
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There's a couple bars that
do music every weekend.
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So, people aren't as desperate
for that kind of stuff
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as they used to be when I
was growing up down there.
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Boredom.
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Growing up, obviously,
you do whatever you do.
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You go out and it's too hot,
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you try to entertain yourself.
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Maybe as a kid you play sports,
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or we liked to skateboard
when we were young.
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Then you hit puberty and you
start to party and chase girls.
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Everybody dates each
other's girlfriends
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because it's such a small town.
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We were waiting for the
scum bus for like a half hour
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in my Chuck Taylors and
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the sidewalk being so
hot that it actually
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was starting to melt and loosen
up the bottom of my shoes.
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It's hard to be cool,
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it's hard to be a
punk in the desert.
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All that shit you
put on to be punk,
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like mascara and hairspray,
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it just starts melting
and it burns your eyes.
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Palm
Springs, where I live,
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you know, it's a resort town.
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The poor people
stayed in the summer,
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and rich people came here
to bourgeois in winter.
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But that's about it,
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it's where old people go
to retire and play golf.
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You know, nothing to do,
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unless you golf,
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which I don't.
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"Sonny Bono,
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"Frank Sinatra, and other
interments of interest."
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Number 151.
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We did a great show at the
Graveyard in Palm Springs.
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The singer for the bands
that I was in then,
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the band was called Valley Days,
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his parents were the caretakers,
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and they went away.
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Sinatra was alive then,
now Sinatra's dead
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and he's buried here.
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You'd see Dean Martin.
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You'd see weird people
like movie stars,
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and then you think
about that generation
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and what they must
have thought of us.
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Palm
Springs at that time
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was dominated by Frank Sinatra
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and his Rat Pack culture.
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He lived in Rancho Mirage,
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which is just outside
of Palm Springs.
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It was far enough
away from their wives
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that they could feel like
they were in another state,
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come here, and get laid.
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They'd bring their
girlfriends out here,
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get drunk, shoot
guns, play golf.
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It was like you were
in another world.
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The whole scene was
around these little lounges
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where Frank Sinatra-type
of musicians
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would sing "New York, New York."
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So there grew up to be
this Ring-a-Ding-Ding
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type of swing culture that
really hated rock and roll
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because Frank Sinatra
hated rock and roll.
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So they basically banned
rock and roll in the 1970s.
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There was no concerts
at all in the mid 1980s.
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Great voice,
mafia connections.
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But you can't stop rock
music from developing,
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you can't stop kids from
practicing their favorite art form,
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so this underground singing
developed, basically.
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To be honest, it
never really got bigger,
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it was always the same size.
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It was always somewhere
between 200 and 600 people.
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And you knew 450 of them.
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When punk rock
was happening in Los Angeles,
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it naturally pervaded the
Coachella Valley, also.
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There was a band
called Target 13
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that was very influential.
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The theme
song to Rodney on the Rock
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was written by Target 13.
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The
leader of that group
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had a skateboard shop in
downtown Palm Springs,
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and so he was kind
of a meeting place
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for a lot of the punkers.
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Myke
Bates, he was the only
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punk rocker in high school
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and he was the only one that
was old enough to have a car,
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that would take you to
a punk rock show in LA.
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Those guys were all
doing the same thing,
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but not so much
generator parties,
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but they set it
for us, you know?
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Yes it rock sound
and stoner rock.
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I'm 47 years old.
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What was in my record
collection growing up?
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It was hard rock.
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Blue Cheer.
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Slade.
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Black Sabbath, of course.
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The most underrated AC DC album
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that Bon Scott didn't sing on.
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Cactus.
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My family influence
was Jackson Browne,
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The Doors, Hendrix,
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and a lot of blues stuff.
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Just a smattering of
blues, Chuck Berry.
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And then...
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To punk.
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Ology, Stooges.
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I forgot to mention the
Ramones in my influences.
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They're number one.
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The Misfits and Black Flag
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and GBH and Exploited.
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GG Allen, of course,
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Glevel Surfers.
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This album changed my life.
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GBH.
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I
Knew when I heard it
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that that was where I belong.
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I think
the desert scene,
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even though it doesn't
sound like punk rock,
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I think it does come back
to the same sensibilities.
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Punk rock's like
one of the few kinds of music
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that there's no
necessity for any kind
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of technical knowledge
when you do it.
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If you had an
amp and a guitar,
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you could play in a band.
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It didn't matter if you
knew how to play or not.
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"You got gear? Let's jam."
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And we'd make noise.
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It's just as much
like a performance art
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as it is proper music, in a way.
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Just pure expression, short
and simple and straight up.
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And no fluff.
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It's kind of
like Florida, too,
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where you get all
these old rich people
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that come here to die.
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And some are cool, and some suck
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and make it hard on the youth.
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Nothing against old people,
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they're cool,
they're just older.
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But when we were kids,
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it felt like it was
us against them.
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They didn't like
us having parties,
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that's why we couldn't do
it in our neighborhoods.
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They don't want purple-haired
kids running around
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you know, looking like
freaks and doing their thing.
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I had no trouble
with the law ever.
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They had trouble with me.
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This big old
skateboard, you know,
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and I'd look over,
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and two cops are in
this undercover car.
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And these two guys are
looking and I was like,
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"I'm jamming, man.
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"I'm jamming."
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And they were laughing.
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And they pulled
right in front of me.
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And fucking smashed me.
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When you tried to do things
like skateboard and stuff,
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police would take
your skateboard
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and roll over it with their
squad car and destroy it.
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You'd go to someone's house
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and just play until
the cops showed up.
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And we would get
busted within, like,
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the first two songs.
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I played, like, garage
parties and fucking
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Mayfair, you know, like hoods.
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There
were no rock clubs,
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so we'd try to play
at the dance clubs.
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People were gonna go,
"Are you gonna behave?"
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And I'm like, "Fuck no."
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You know?
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I mean, what?
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When I'm having a good
time, you're getting mad,
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I understand that.
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People
started slam dancing
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and the big, beef-cake
security guards
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would actually start
macing the crowd.
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And then all of a sudden,
you got girls crying,
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dudes throwing up,
259
00:20:13,947 --> 00:20:15,948
and the cops showing up.
260
00:20:17,116 --> 00:20:18,594
There was a new place
called The Hood.
261
00:20:18,618 --> 00:20:19,962
They're all the same,
262
00:20:19,986 --> 00:20:21,430
it's like a sports bar,
263
00:20:21,454 --> 00:20:23,098
it'll open up and have punk
rock shows for a while,
264
00:20:23,122 --> 00:20:24,757
and then they're done.
265
00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:54,630
Yeah The Hood's
not, like, ideal,
266
00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:57,089
but it's what the desert has.
267
00:20:58,458 --> 00:21:00,503
If you live in the
desert, you can't be picky
268
00:21:00,527 --> 00:21:02,629
about some of that shit.
269
00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:07,476
You're playing in your
mom's garage for so long,
270
00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:09,778
you wanna play out.
271
00:21:09,802 --> 00:21:11,013
For Solarfeast, our first show,
272
00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:12,781
we borrowed a generator,
273
00:21:12,805 --> 00:21:16,376
and we just set up and played
a parking lot downtown.
274
00:21:28,855 --> 00:21:31,266
Suddenly, like a
100 kids and people
275
00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:33,526
were like jumping over a
fence to come see us play.
276
00:22:31,984 --> 00:22:33,462
This is the library.
277
00:22:33,486 --> 00:22:35,254
This is where I work.
278
00:23:04,150 --> 00:23:06,595
Murphy Beds, I heard
he hires, you know,
279
00:23:06,619 --> 00:23:08,664
scumbag rock and
rollers to help him out.
280
00:23:08,688 --> 00:23:11,333
I worked for him a couple times.
281
00:23:11,357 --> 00:23:12,877
That's a
selling point for Murphy Beds.
282
00:23:24,804 --> 00:23:26,815
At 16, the desert
meant nothing more to me
283
00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:28,150
than a dead end,
284
00:23:28,174 --> 00:23:30,910
boring place, full
of old people.
285
00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:33,856
I can appreciate it
a little more now
286
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,691
that I'm...
287
00:23:35,715 --> 00:23:37,626
Pushing 47.
288
00:23:37,650 --> 00:23:42,121
As opposed
to when I was 16.
289
00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:02,050
Through skateboarding,
got turned on to some guys
290
00:24:02,074 --> 00:24:03,576
from Palm Springs.
291
00:24:04,844 --> 00:24:06,188
We had a punk band
292
00:24:06,212 --> 00:24:07,714
called Dead Issue.
293
00:24:12,018 --> 00:24:13,929
Scott Reeder on bass,
294
00:24:13,953 --> 00:24:15,531
me, Alfredo,
295
00:24:15,555 --> 00:24:18,057
and Herb on guitar and vocals.
296
00:24:21,528 --> 00:24:22,871
When I was living
at my mommy's house,
297
00:24:22,895 --> 00:24:25,774
Herb was living out of a car.
298
00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:30,445
That guy is punk rock and
he's been around forever.
299
00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:31,947
Have you
ever seen Scott play bass?
300
00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:33,215
He's definitely,
301
00:24:33,239 --> 00:24:34,483
he's gotta be one of the
rockingest bass players
302
00:24:34,507 --> 00:24:35,608
in the world.
303
00:24:42,148 --> 00:24:43,358
It's fucking insane.
304
00:24:43,382 --> 00:24:46,853
He's so goddamn good,
it's almost bizarre.
305
00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:49,031
I met
Alfredo one night
306
00:24:49,055 --> 00:24:50,723
at a Target 13 show.
307
00:24:51,924 --> 00:24:53,135
I'd
walk up to a party
308
00:24:53,159 --> 00:24:54,070
and I could tell it was
Alfredo playing drums
309
00:24:54,094 --> 00:24:55,971
from like five blocks away.
310
00:24:55,995 --> 00:24:57,139
I didn't know what band it was,
311
00:24:57,163 --> 00:24:58,406
I didn't know what
song they were playing,
312
00:24:58,430 --> 00:24:59,708
but I could tell from
the style of drumming
313
00:24:59,732 --> 00:25:01,810
that it was 'Fredo.
314
00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:02,845
And it
was hard for a drummer
315
00:25:02,869 --> 00:25:04,170
to have a style.
316
00:25:05,805 --> 00:25:09,976
The difference between.
317
00:25:11,143 --> 00:25:12,588
Instantly, you're
in a low-rider.
318
00:25:12,612 --> 00:25:14,322
At the time, he was
playing with Sean Wheeler
319
00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:15,924
in band called Mutual Hatred.
320
00:25:15,948 --> 00:25:18,493
Mutual Hatred, which
was my first punk band,
321
00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:19,728
look at that.
322
00:25:19,752 --> 00:25:20,729
The Cramps at the
Whisky a Go Go.
323
00:25:20,753 --> 00:25:22,965
That's like 1980 or something.
324
00:25:22,989 --> 00:25:24,199
So we made this,
325
00:25:24,223 --> 00:25:25,868
this is the first set
list from the first show
326
00:25:25,892 --> 00:25:27,936
at Alex Fernandez's house.
327
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,271
Petroleum Jelly.
328
00:25:29,295 --> 00:25:31,574
Oh yeah, that's
about masturbation.
329
00:25:31,598 --> 00:25:32,941
Dude, Green Peace Sucks.
330
00:25:32,965 --> 00:25:34,777
This was Alfredo
on drums, right?
331
00:25:34,801 --> 00:25:37,012
May 15...
332
00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:38,180
"Kill the whale, watch him die,
333
00:25:38,204 --> 00:25:39,514
"Ignite his blubber,
make him fry."
334
00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:41,316
"Green Peace sucks.
335
00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:42,484
"Green Peace sucks.
336
00:25:42,508 --> 00:25:43,752
"Turtle meat, I love to eat,
337
00:25:43,776 --> 00:25:44,953
"I thrash and beat
for turtle meat."
338
00:25:44,977 --> 00:25:46,454
"Green Peace sucks.
339
00:25:46,478 --> 00:25:47,556
"Green Peace sucks.
340
00:25:47,580 --> 00:25:48,524
"Kill the seal, take his belt,
341
00:25:48,548 --> 00:25:49,758
"chop it up into a kilt.
342
00:25:49,782 --> 00:25:51,226
"Green Peace sucks,
Green Peace sucks,
343
00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:53,128
"Green Peace sucks,
Green Peace sucks."
344
00:25:53,152 --> 00:25:55,998
It's like 40 seconds long,
you know what I mean?
345
00:25:56,022 --> 00:25:57,465
Kids were so dumb, you know?
346
00:25:57,489 --> 00:25:59,301
We thought that
would be punk to say,
347
00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:00,793
to bum people out.
348
00:26:03,429 --> 00:26:07,542
Sean Wheeler
is one of my heroes.
349
00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:10,336
He's in a band now
called Throw Rag.
350
00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:24,760
We used to have a
band when I was a kid
351
00:26:24,784 --> 00:26:26,461
called Zezo Zee Zaddfrac
352
00:26:26,485 --> 00:26:29,488
and the Dune Buggy
Attack Battalion.
353
00:26:32,859 --> 00:26:36,595
Which was pretty much like
Zodiac Mindwarp but weirder.
354
00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:41,977
This is the band
Zezo Zee Zaddfrac
355
00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:45,047
and the Dune Buggy
Attack Battalion.
356
00:26:45,071 --> 00:26:47,249
This is me, my nice long hair,
357
00:26:47,273 --> 00:26:48,884
my fur vest.
358
00:26:48,908 --> 00:26:51,811
Zezo's whole thing
was like Mad Max
359
00:26:52,812 --> 00:26:53,989
and the Manson Family.
360
00:26:54,013 --> 00:26:55,257
And then dune buggies,
361
00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:56,859
and they were out
in Death Valley.
362
00:26:56,883 --> 00:26:58,493
When Josh and Nick and
those guys were kids,
363
00:26:58,517 --> 00:27:00,528
they seen us play and
they always tell me,
364
00:27:00,552 --> 00:27:03,766
"Wheeler, man, do you
remember that time that
365
00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:06,434
"you had that band and you
played with whoever, man,
366
00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:09,437
"over at Adrian's, man? Wow!"
367
00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:11,006
So that was the whole thing.
368
00:27:11,030 --> 00:27:14,342
Yeah, fur, Max Max, dune
buggies, Charles Manson,
369
00:27:14,366 --> 00:27:16,044
like come on, man.
370
00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:17,746
There's nothing cool
about Charles Manson,
371
00:27:17,770 --> 00:27:19,247
you know what I mean?
372
00:27:19,271 --> 00:27:21,817
You know, I guess it's the
fantasy of hopeless thought
373
00:27:21,841 --> 00:27:23,676
and all that...
what is this? Dig?
374
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:33,595
It's hard to jam when
you're a punk band.
375
00:27:33,619 --> 00:27:35,130
You can
make a bunch of noise
376
00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:38,958
and go through the same four
chords over and over again.
377
00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:46,541
Once you discover that,
then it's like, whoa,
378
00:27:46,565 --> 00:27:48,877
there's way more going
on here than just
379
00:27:48,901 --> 00:27:51,880
high energy...
380
00:27:51,904 --> 00:27:54,974
You know, there's so much
more to music than that.
381
00:28:13,392 --> 00:28:15,938
We converted
the garage into a jam room,
382
00:28:15,962 --> 00:28:18,865
and we just played
music, everyday.
383
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:28,640
Scott had taken off to play
with Whino and The Obsessed.
384
00:28:30,342 --> 00:28:32,487
And then Gary came
and lived with us.
385
00:28:32,511 --> 00:28:35,523
And that's how that
whole thing started
386
00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:36,949
with Yawning Man.
387
00:28:40,987 --> 00:28:43,231
There is a
classic desert guy, you know?
388
00:28:43,255 --> 00:28:45,467
Someone who is not a follower.
389
00:28:45,491 --> 00:28:46,869
He'd
just put on the guitar
390
00:28:46,893 --> 00:28:49,437
and mess with it
with hims thumb.
391
00:28:49,461 --> 00:28:52,407
And it started to
sound kinda cool.
392
00:28:52,431 --> 00:28:53,942
Gary's this
handsome Mexican dude
393
00:28:53,966 --> 00:28:56,144
and together with Boomer
and Larry and Fredo,
394
00:28:56,168 --> 00:28:58,246
it painted such a strange
picture of a band.
395
00:28:58,270 --> 00:29:00,548
The thing is that the
music sounds nothing alike,
396
00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:01,917
but that's the point.
397
00:29:01,941 --> 00:29:03,919
It's such a strange
juxtaposition
398
00:29:03,943 --> 00:29:06,288
of different schools of playing.
399
00:29:06,312 --> 00:29:07,655
It wasn't
so much about creating
400
00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:09,724
this really interesting
thing to listen to
401
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,360
as it was about how
enjoyable it was to play
402
00:29:12,384 --> 00:29:13,552
and just flow.
403
00:29:15,822 --> 00:29:18,033
Mario
is the one guy
404
00:29:18,057 --> 00:29:20,993
that I've always
thought, you know,
405
00:29:22,661 --> 00:29:26,308
deserved most of the
credit for everything.
406
00:29:26,332 --> 00:29:29,444
Boomer had something special
down to his song titles.
407
00:29:29,468 --> 00:29:30,913
"This song's called
'Three-legged Table'."
408
00:29:30,937 --> 00:29:35,017
And I would be like, "wow,
that's fucking deep."
409
00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:37,820
He was always a few
years ahead of his time.
410
00:29:37,844 --> 00:29:39,221
When grunge got big,
411
00:29:39,245 --> 00:29:42,257
initially I was like,
"Mario's been doing something
412
00:29:42,281 --> 00:29:46,394
"down this road for five
years, you know, before this,
413
00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:49,255
"and he ain't
asking for nothing."
414
00:29:50,689 --> 00:29:51,800
Mario is always...
415
00:29:51,824 --> 00:29:53,335
He's always been humble.
416
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,770
He would always
put his band lower.
417
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:57,105
Mario's that kind of human, man,
418
00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:58,340
he's not...
419
00:29:58,364 --> 00:30:01,143
But who plays guitar
like Mario, man? Nobody.
420
00:30:01,167 --> 00:30:03,602
You know what I mean? Fuck.
421
00:30:21,954 --> 00:30:24,723
500
times in a row.
422
00:30:44,476 --> 00:30:46,221
Watching guys
like Boomer when I was 12,
423
00:30:46,245 --> 00:30:47,990
13 years old,
424
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:49,357
I remember thinking
425
00:30:49,381 --> 00:30:52,027
that Boomer was unheckleable.
426
00:30:52,051 --> 00:30:53,595
There was no way you
could say, "You suck!"
427
00:30:53,619 --> 00:30:56,288
He was so... he meant it so much.
428
00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:58,600
And I remember thinking,
429
00:30:58,624 --> 00:31:01,227
"that's what I wanna
be, is unheckleable."
430
00:31:06,165 --> 00:31:09,344
At the time Boomer
was a really big guy.
431
00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,813
And his cousin, Larry,
432
00:31:11,837 --> 00:31:13,481
like a stick skinny.
433
00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:14,749
They were the same height,
434
00:31:14,773 --> 00:31:16,742
so they were just this
beautiful odd couple.
435
00:31:33,792 --> 00:31:37,639
Good
pussy for my man Boomer.
436
00:31:37,663 --> 00:31:41,833
("Good Pussy" by Sean
Wheeler and Zander Schloss
437
00:31:49,475 --> 00:31:51,853
* Call it what you will
438
00:31:51,877 --> 00:31:54,289
* See it how you must
439
00:31:54,313 --> 00:31:59,027
* You got a broken tool when
it comes to those you trust
440
00:31:59,051 --> 00:32:01,563
* You missed the flashing signs
441
00:32:01,587 --> 00:32:04,099
* For you should wake to find
442
00:32:04,123 --> 00:32:05,968
* Good pussy's like heroin
443
00:32:05,992 --> 00:32:09,071
* You're better off
with that cheap wine
444
00:32:09,095 --> 00:32:13,841
* She gonna steal your heart,
she gonna rot your mind
445
00:32:13,865 --> 00:32:18,037
* She gonna make it hard,
brother, for you to do that time
446
00:32:20,406 --> 00:32:22,684
* I told you more than once
447
00:32:22,708 --> 00:32:25,253
* Told you more than twice
448
00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:27,022
* Good pussy's is a fool's game
449
00:32:27,046 --> 00:32:30,025
* You got better rolls with dice
450
00:32:30,049 --> 00:32:32,127
* Now you're running high
451
00:32:32,151 --> 00:32:35,097
* Got your back against the wall
452
00:32:35,121 --> 00:32:36,931
* Good pussy on a mountain top
453
00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:40,035
* But now it's time to fall
454
00:32:40,059 --> 00:32:44,706
* She gonna steal your heart,
she gonna rot your mind
455
00:32:44,730 --> 00:32:48,900
* She gonna make it hard,
brother, for you to do that time
456
00:33:00,846 --> 00:33:03,225
* There really ain't no rainbows
457
00:33:03,249 --> 00:33:05,627
* Falling down on gold
458
00:33:05,651 --> 00:33:07,462
* Good pussy is the devil's tale
459
00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:10,565
* Don't say you ain't been told
460
00:33:10,589 --> 00:33:12,500
* Good pussy is the devil's tale
461
00:33:12,524 --> 00:33:15,103
* don't say you ain't been told
462
00:33:15,127 --> 00:33:17,905
* I know it don't add up
463
00:33:17,929 --> 00:33:20,408
* Count it back from nine
464
00:33:20,432 --> 00:33:22,110
* Good pussy like heroine
465
00:33:22,134 --> 00:33:25,280
* You're better off
with that cheap wine
466
00:33:25,304 --> 00:33:27,015
* Good pussy like heroine
467
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:30,285
* You're better off
with that cheap wine
468
00:33:30,309 --> 00:33:32,020
* Good pussy like heroine
469
00:33:32,044 --> 00:33:37,015
* You're better off
with that cheap wine.
470
00:34:16,922 --> 00:34:19,534
Punk rock, at
that time, punk in the desert,
471
00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:23,729
was allowed for a
huge span of music.
472
00:34:24,930 --> 00:34:27,142
There were a lot less
formal ways to dress,
473
00:34:27,166 --> 00:34:29,211
a lot less formal ways to play
474
00:34:29,235 --> 00:34:31,179
than the word
"punk" implies now.
475
00:34:31,203 --> 00:34:32,814
It was a very open scene.
476
00:34:32,838 --> 00:34:35,283
And there were
varieties of styles
477
00:34:35,307 --> 00:34:37,309
within individual bands.
478
00:34:42,581 --> 00:34:44,526
There wasn't a
particular desert look,
479
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:46,494
or a specific desert sound.
480
00:34:46,518 --> 00:34:49,030
All the bands were very unique
481
00:34:49,054 --> 00:34:51,723
and had their own individuality.
482
00:35:05,504 --> 00:35:07,649
In LA, if
you went to a punk show,
483
00:35:07,673 --> 00:35:09,384
there'd probably
be punk rockers.
484
00:35:09,408 --> 00:35:11,186
In the desert, you're
just gonna go to a party
485
00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:12,320
and whatever band's playing,
486
00:35:12,344 --> 00:35:13,821
everyone's gonna be there,
487
00:35:13,845 --> 00:35:17,159
whether it's the football
players from high school...
488
00:35:17,183 --> 00:35:18,993
It doesn't matter who,
it's just a party.
489
00:35:19,017 --> 00:35:22,264
The party's first, and
you know, format second.
490
00:35:22,288 --> 00:35:25,032
It's just a gathering
of people that are bored
491
00:35:25,056 --> 00:35:27,559
and wanna go somewhere
beer and get laid.
492
00:36:43,134 --> 00:36:45,947
You know, you put these
bands together, they break up.
493
00:36:45,971 --> 00:36:49,417
They reform into something else.
494
00:36:49,441 --> 00:36:51,586
We've been in bands together.
495
00:36:51,610 --> 00:36:55,647
We've been seeing each
other's bands forever.
496
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:40,101
We've been in the same
band but at different times
497
00:37:40,125 --> 00:37:42,737
and we weren't playing
with each other.
498
00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:44,430
Yeah. And us, too.
499
00:37:45,497 --> 00:37:46,497
Yeah.
500
00:37:47,499 --> 00:37:49,935
That's kinda how it
works in the desert.
501
00:38:32,177 --> 00:38:33,244
Punk sucks.
502
00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:37,148
Punk pussies, faggots,
503
00:38:38,216 --> 00:38:40,619
Sabbath, mother fucker, Ozzy.
504
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:43,665
The punkers didn't like
the rock metal heads.
505
00:38:43,689 --> 00:38:46,334
Van Halen, mother fucker.
506
00:38:46,358 --> 00:38:48,403
And I was like, "fuck you, man."
507
00:38:48,427 --> 00:38:50,872
There's like the jammy
Official Dead click,
508
00:38:50,896 --> 00:38:54,509
and then there's the fucking
thrash, heavy metal click.
509
00:38:54,533 --> 00:38:56,911
'Cause we had long hair
and our fucking Nike's.
510
00:38:56,935 --> 00:38:59,280
We were metal-ed out.
511
00:38:59,304 --> 00:39:00,748
There was
a point in school where
512
00:39:00,772 --> 00:39:02,450
all the punkers were pushed out
513
00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:05,711
and all the rocker guys
were beating us up.
514
00:39:07,479 --> 00:39:09,857
* Hey everyone
515
00:39:09,881 --> 00:39:12,326
* Look at me.
516
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:13,628
All those stoners,
517
00:39:13,652 --> 00:39:15,062
they were the enemy.
518
00:39:15,086 --> 00:39:16,330
Those were the kids
we were fighting
519
00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:18,524
when we were punk rockers.
520
00:39:19,991 --> 00:39:21,436
They weren't us yet,
521
00:39:21,460 --> 00:39:25,407
but we became the same
thing that was our enemy.
522
00:39:25,431 --> 00:39:26,574
There's
this sense of community
523
00:39:26,598 --> 00:39:28,676
and respect for other musicians,
524
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,311
and also that...
525
00:39:30,335 --> 00:39:33,415
I would say, kind of an intense
526
00:39:33,439 --> 00:39:35,249
sense of competition
you might have
527
00:39:35,273 --> 00:39:37,251
with your brothers
and sisters in a way.
528
00:39:37,275 --> 00:39:40,779
You know, there's like,
some shit-talking.
529
00:39:42,814 --> 00:39:44,258
When Kyuss was starting,
530
00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:46,093
all you got was a
lot of talk of like,
531
00:39:46,117 --> 00:39:48,763
"Fucking Kyuss is just
trying to be Yawning Man."
532
00:39:48,787 --> 00:39:49,732
If you sounded
like someone else,
533
00:39:49,756 --> 00:39:51,833
you got worse than made fun of,
534
00:39:51,857 --> 00:39:54,469
you got nothing from anybody.
535
00:39:54,493 --> 00:39:57,038
And then Kyuss
had done so well,
536
00:39:57,062 --> 00:39:59,106
that there was almost the
sense that anybody else
537
00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,676
that was making loud
music and doing well
538
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:03,878
was just trying to
fucking be Kyuss.
539
00:40:03,902 --> 00:40:05,112
You know, it's a
little bit of that
540
00:40:05,136 --> 00:40:07,639
small town thing that happens.
541
00:40:17,983 --> 00:40:22,153
I loved my friends, but I
was glad to get away from them.
542
00:40:25,991 --> 00:40:27,602
I was glad to move
to a different town
543
00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:31,606
and have a different
life at the time.
544
00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:34,208
I wanted to be near the water.
545
00:40:34,232 --> 00:40:35,443
And it's not because I surf,
546
00:40:35,467 --> 00:40:36,778
it's not because I go fishing,
547
00:40:36,802 --> 00:40:40,181
it's because it's
not the desert.
548
00:40:40,205 --> 00:40:41,849
I visited San
Francisco with Nick
549
00:40:41,873 --> 00:40:44,710
and I fell in love
with the place.
550
00:40:46,111 --> 00:40:47,546
Oh, look Mike.
551
00:40:52,217 --> 00:40:55,386
What did you think
about Elmer Gantry?
552
00:40:56,788 --> 00:40:57,799
I need to
go out of my house,
553
00:40:57,823 --> 00:40:59,701
have an aperitif
and some coffee,
554
00:40:59,725 --> 00:41:01,769
have someone spit at me,
555
00:41:01,793 --> 00:41:05,631
walk on human shit and
have shows every night.
556
00:41:07,799 --> 00:41:09,477
Couple crackers.
557
00:41:09,501 --> 00:41:11,245
Try to sell me crack.
558
00:41:11,269 --> 00:41:12,270
I like that.
559
00:41:13,705 --> 00:41:16,718
Looks like a phone contract.
560
00:41:16,742 --> 00:41:19,410
That shows promise for Yo Daddy.
561
00:41:20,846 --> 00:41:23,658
Is that Yo Daddy of
Bayview, or Yo Daddy of...
562
00:41:23,682 --> 00:41:24,659
Mission Street.
563
00:41:24,683 --> 00:41:26,427
Yeah, 1288 Mission Street.
564
00:41:26,451 --> 00:41:27,451
Okay.
565
00:41:28,419 --> 00:41:30,321
I know a few Yo Daddies.
566
00:41:31,523 --> 00:41:33,200
There's more
variety, you know?
567
00:41:33,224 --> 00:41:34,224
You want...
568
00:41:35,627 --> 00:41:37,438
I don't know, you
want a she-male dwarf
569
00:41:37,462 --> 00:41:39,273
to piss in your face?
570
00:41:39,297 --> 00:41:42,400
It's easier to find
in San Francisco.
571
00:41:43,735 --> 00:41:45,212
San Francisco is
probably the best choice
572
00:41:45,236 --> 00:41:48,339
of places to move
to from the desert.
573
00:41:50,041 --> 00:41:52,587
We coulda moved to LA but,
574
00:41:52,611 --> 00:41:54,445
LA seems kind of lame.
575
00:41:56,982 --> 00:42:00,161
LA was much worse
than it is now.
576
00:42:00,185 --> 00:42:01,663
In the late 80s and it was like.
577
00:42:01,687 --> 00:42:04,431
Sunset Strip glam-rock bullshit.
578
00:42:04,455 --> 00:42:06,400
Yeah, I don't think
bands in the desert
579
00:42:06,424 --> 00:42:08,259
would wanna come
and be part of that.
580
00:42:12,263 --> 00:42:15,066
It's LA, it's
a big metropolis.
581
00:42:28,714 --> 00:42:31,525
You grew up
hating Los Angeles.
582
00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:33,118
LA, lots of people.
583
00:42:34,085 --> 00:42:36,421
It's just too many people.
584
00:43:09,454 --> 00:43:13,625
I lived in Los
Angeles for about five years.
585
00:43:14,826 --> 00:43:17,304
To finally have this,
586
00:43:17,328 --> 00:43:19,998
it's like living in slow motion.
587
00:43:27,205 --> 00:43:29,374
I can make a lot of noise.
588
00:43:32,277 --> 00:43:35,613
I can't imagine moving
back to the city.
589
00:43:40,886 --> 00:43:42,429
That's just gonna
be in those mellow...
590
00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:43,898
I went to
high school with Zack
591
00:43:43,922 --> 00:43:46,100
and Eric.
592
00:43:46,124 --> 00:43:48,602
And when they wanted to
work here, I was thrilled,
593
00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:49,627
old friends.
594
00:43:58,203 --> 00:44:00,447
They brought in Mario
Lalli and Sean Wheeler
595
00:44:00,471 --> 00:44:02,316
and Joe Dylan, all
these old friends
596
00:44:02,340 --> 00:44:04,485
from the high school
days, the early punk days.
597
00:44:04,509 --> 00:44:05,777
It was awesome.
598
00:44:17,823 --> 00:44:19,424
I love Dali's Lama,
599
00:44:20,591 --> 00:44:23,194
Zach is amazing,
great songwriter.
600
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,011
Making change for people.
601
00:45:04,035 --> 00:45:05,579
They give me bigger bills
602
00:45:05,603 --> 00:45:07,581
and I break them
into smaller bills.
603
00:45:07,605 --> 00:45:10,317
11:45 to 8:00 in the morning.
604
00:45:10,341 --> 00:45:11,843
Rock'n roll hours.
605
00:45:13,912 --> 00:45:16,523
And then I clean the booths,
606
00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:19,050
mop the jiz out of the booths.
607
00:45:21,252 --> 00:45:22,164
Mike works here too,
608
00:45:22,188 --> 00:45:23,530
he's working tomorrow morning.
609
00:45:23,554 --> 00:45:24,766
He's doing the janitor shift,
610
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:27,325
he'll be mopping jiz
tomorrow morning.
611
00:46:52,077 --> 00:46:52,955
That was a lot of fun.
612
00:46:52,979 --> 00:46:54,188
Full moon,
613
00:46:54,212 --> 00:46:57,258
see him play, drink
a beer, kicking back.
614
00:46:57,282 --> 00:46:59,393
When Fatso Jetson was playing
I was on top of your band,
615
00:46:59,417 --> 00:47:02,263
that was awesome, that
was like the old days.
616
00:47:02,287 --> 00:47:04,098
Well, it's not as
cool as playing out
617
00:47:04,122 --> 00:47:07,125
in the middle of the
desert with a generator.
618
00:48:14,392 --> 00:48:18,239
* Itchy brother's gone away
619
00:48:18,263 --> 00:48:22,143
* Itchy brother's gone away
620
00:48:22,167 --> 00:48:26,280
* Itchy brother's gone away
621
00:48:26,304 --> 00:48:30,184
* Itchy brother's gone away
622
00:48:30,208 --> 00:48:34,288
* Itchy brother's gone away
623
00:48:34,312 --> 00:48:38,459
* Itchy brother's gone away
624
00:48:38,483 --> 00:48:42,263
* Itchy brother's gone away
625
00:48:42,287 --> 00:48:46,457
* Itchy brother's gone away.
626
00:48:47,558 --> 00:48:49,060
Thank you, guys.
627
00:50:26,424 --> 00:50:30,071
Just, I
felt stuck here, really.
628
00:50:30,095 --> 00:50:32,830
I still feel like
that sometimes.
629
00:50:35,766 --> 00:50:37,444
It's not a bad place to be
630
00:50:37,468 --> 00:50:39,870
now that I've opened my eyes.
631
00:50:57,188 --> 00:51:01,292
This hill
we're on is called Edom Hill.
632
00:51:05,563 --> 00:51:07,674
A lot of people come up
here and party and shoot
633
00:51:07,698 --> 00:51:09,534
and drink and hangout.
634
00:51:11,936 --> 00:51:14,105
He's dead, but this is the
635
00:51:15,373 --> 00:51:18,185
rare Coachella Valley monkey.
636
00:51:18,209 --> 00:51:20,311
They come up from Mexico.
637
00:51:21,712 --> 00:51:24,882
Looks pretty good
for being dead, huh?
638
00:51:53,944 --> 00:51:56,290
You can go out in the
desert and blow shit up.
639
00:51:56,314 --> 00:51:58,583
You can fucking shoot guns.
640
00:51:59,817 --> 00:52:02,520
Explode things,
ride motorcycles.
641
00:52:05,590 --> 00:52:07,492
And you can play music.
642
00:52:38,456 --> 00:52:39,633
This guy
named Stuart Swezey,
643
00:52:39,657 --> 00:52:41,868
who did a thing called
Desolation Center,
644
00:52:41,892 --> 00:52:43,304
he did two generator parties.
645
00:52:43,328 --> 00:52:45,406
The first one was
with the Minutemen
646
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:48,409
and Einsturzende
Neubauten from Germany.
647
00:52:48,433 --> 00:52:51,845
The second one was with
Red Cross, Meat Puppets,
648
00:52:51,869 --> 00:52:54,815
and a band called Sonic Youth.
649
00:52:54,839 --> 00:52:57,117
I met Mario and
Scott and Alfredo
650
00:52:57,141 --> 00:53:01,054
and they suggested do the
generator show in the desert.
651
00:53:01,078 --> 00:53:04,124
So Mario and Larry bought
their own generator
652
00:53:04,148 --> 00:53:05,983
and did by themselves.
653
00:53:07,117 --> 00:53:08,329
On music talent alone,
654
00:53:08,353 --> 00:53:10,096
Mario deserves an
awful lot of credit,
655
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,268
but also for doing it, and
providing things like that
656
00:53:14,292 --> 00:53:15,460
for the scene.
657
00:53:22,633 --> 00:53:26,804
This would be great place
for a generator party.
658
00:53:27,838 --> 00:53:30,441
Relatively close to the cities,
659
00:53:32,310 --> 00:53:34,721
and it's got one entrance
660
00:53:34,745 --> 00:53:36,990
and it's just surrounded
by these huge canyons,
661
00:53:37,014 --> 00:53:38,492
it's like a big bowl.
662
00:53:38,516 --> 00:53:42,028
And then over here is this
little cave-like canyon,
663
00:53:42,052 --> 00:53:46,400
where it'd be great for
the stage and stuff.
664
00:53:46,424 --> 00:53:50,495
I think the sound would
really just stay in here.
665
00:53:51,962 --> 00:53:53,407
This is the entrance,
666
00:53:53,431 --> 00:53:56,267
so you'd have the
band right here.
667
00:53:57,768 --> 00:54:00,381
You could actually put the
generator back far enough
668
00:54:00,405 --> 00:54:02,640
where you wouldn't hear it.
669
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:22,269
When I was in
Across the River,
670
00:54:22,293 --> 00:54:23,570
we'd set up our gear
671
00:54:23,594 --> 00:54:26,006
and basically practice
outside and just jam.
672
00:54:26,030 --> 00:54:27,274
At night, there's a lot of...
673
00:54:27,298 --> 00:54:28,875
It's really clear and
you can see the stars
674
00:54:28,899 --> 00:54:31,545
and you just feel like
you're just floating around
675
00:54:31,569 --> 00:54:33,070
on a rock.
676
00:54:35,406 --> 00:54:38,885
What we did in the
desert with the generator
677
00:54:38,909 --> 00:54:41,021
is set up,
678
00:54:41,045 --> 00:54:43,314
and play.
679
00:54:49,387 --> 00:54:51,498
And maybe it was shit,
680
00:54:51,522 --> 00:54:53,190
but...
681
00:54:54,291 --> 00:54:56,894
Maybe it was fucking
amazing, too.
682
00:55:04,402 --> 00:55:05,879
There were a lot
of jam sessions
683
00:55:05,903 --> 00:55:09,840
where you really didn't know
exactly where it was gonna go.
684
00:55:12,209 --> 00:55:14,688
It's gonna be the
most amazing feeling,
685
00:55:14,712 --> 00:55:16,423
or you're gonna fall
flat on your face
686
00:55:16,447 --> 00:55:19,950
and it's scary when
you get to that place.
687
00:55:50,581 --> 00:55:52,092
It was just
insane with energy,
688
00:55:52,116 --> 00:55:54,595
and the people were so
excited by the music,
689
00:55:54,619 --> 00:55:58,188
it was something that
you didn't see in LA.
690
00:56:01,125 --> 00:56:03,470
You could have
someone improvising
691
00:56:03,494 --> 00:56:05,706
on an instrument
you didn't expect,
692
00:56:05,730 --> 00:56:09,410
someone singing crazy-like
in a Diamanda Galas style,
693
00:56:09,434 --> 00:56:11,545
it was all whatever.
694
00:56:11,569 --> 00:56:12,879
As real in entertainment
695
00:56:12,903 --> 00:56:16,340
as the Colosseum was
in Rome at the time.
696
00:56:17,775 --> 00:56:19,319
A friend of mine said,
"This is not a rock show,
697
00:56:19,343 --> 00:56:21,422
"this is a tribal ritual."
698
00:56:21,446 --> 00:56:23,289
I think there was a
naked guy running around,
699
00:56:23,313 --> 00:56:25,926
just people boiling with
energy and excitement
700
00:56:25,950 --> 00:56:27,428
and they were so into the music
701
00:56:27,452 --> 00:56:30,030
that we'd never seen before.
702
00:56:30,054 --> 00:56:31,732
We had no idea what was going on
703
00:56:31,756 --> 00:56:33,467
and we could see
there was something
704
00:56:33,491 --> 00:56:36,393
really special going on there.
705
00:56:43,534 --> 00:56:45,779
It needed to
be almost like excessively
706
00:56:45,803 --> 00:56:49,974
whatever style it was in
order to function outside.
707
00:56:53,478 --> 00:56:57,648
If you were gonna be heavy,
you had to be real heavy.
708
00:57:06,824 --> 00:57:08,301
Everyone had four wheel drives
709
00:57:08,325 --> 00:57:11,004
and you'd drive by police
that were buried in the sand
710
00:57:11,028 --> 00:57:14,641
trying to stop you to get
you to help dig them out.
711
00:57:14,665 --> 00:57:15,942
And you'd just roost them,
712
00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:18,545
drive past them.
713
00:57:18,569 --> 00:57:19,813
- There's a party?
- Where's the party?
714
00:57:19,837 --> 00:57:22,182
It was all word of mouth.
715
00:57:22,206 --> 00:57:24,851
And there was the
certain spots that
716
00:57:24,875 --> 00:57:27,087
you knew where it would be.
717
00:57:27,111 --> 00:57:29,456
It'd be the middle of summer,
718
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,659
and me or one of my friends
or someone would go,
719
00:57:32,683 --> 00:57:35,361
"Hey, there's a light up on
the hill at the Nude Bowl,
720
00:57:35,385 --> 00:57:37,864
"let's go," and we'd
go round up our friends
721
00:57:37,888 --> 00:57:41,225
and be up there within
about 20 minutes.
722
00:57:44,461 --> 00:57:46,439
Nude Bowl
was an actual nudist colony
723
00:57:46,463 --> 00:57:49,643
and you know, it just went
defunct, it fell apart.
724
00:57:49,667 --> 00:57:51,111
Beautiful bowl to skateboard,
725
00:57:51,135 --> 00:57:52,779
set up generators,
shoot guns, camp,
726
00:57:52,803 --> 00:57:56,349
do whatever you
want, free for all.
727
00:57:56,373 --> 00:57:58,018
The walls
were up, there was no roof.
728
00:57:58,042 --> 00:57:59,553
People are hanging
in the windows
729
00:57:59,577 --> 00:58:01,488
and on top of the
walls like monkeys.
730
00:58:01,512 --> 00:58:03,681
And it was just beautiful.
731
00:58:18,596 --> 00:58:21,875
I would actually spend my
days there, too, skateboarding.
732
00:58:21,899 --> 00:58:25,169
And then I had a
microphone in my hand.
733
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,538
It's about 20 years too late
734
00:58:51,562 --> 00:58:54,799
but they finally
built a park out here.
735
00:59:00,237 --> 00:59:02,916
They built a Nude Bowl replica.
736
00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:05,786
It's basically just a
replica in the sense that
737
00:59:05,810 --> 00:59:07,978
it's a left-handed kidney.
738
00:59:09,780 --> 00:59:12,192
But yeah, it's good to
see that they're still
739
00:59:12,216 --> 00:59:14,585
remembering it somewhat.
740
00:59:18,188 --> 00:59:20,333
Lots of people, lots of drugs,
741
00:59:20,357 --> 00:59:23,003
lots of freaks,
lots of violence,
742
00:59:23,027 --> 00:59:27,097
lots of, you know, sex.
743
00:59:33,704 --> 00:59:36,316
We used to do a lot of...
744
00:59:36,340 --> 00:59:38,351
We would party a lot.
745
00:59:38,375 --> 00:59:39,786
We were all under
21 back then, too,
746
00:59:39,810 --> 00:59:41,655
so you could drink,
747
00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:44,725
and do different substances.
748
00:59:44,749 --> 00:59:48,518
You'd take acid and
go crazy in the desert.
749
00:59:52,857 --> 00:59:54,601
There's
a fire pit in the pool
750
00:59:54,625 --> 00:59:56,569
and people were skating
around the fire pit.
751
00:59:56,593 --> 00:59:57,938
Like there's flames going.
752
00:59:57,962 --> 00:59:59,439
And bands would be playing
753
00:59:59,463 --> 01:00:01,574
and you'd just see their
shadows through the fire.
754
01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:03,409
The sound...
755
01:00:03,433 --> 01:00:04,911
It hurt.
756
01:00:04,935 --> 01:00:06,680
And then somebody got in
a fight in the swimming pool
757
01:00:06,704 --> 01:00:07,615
and everybody starts yelling,
758
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:09,249
"Two men enter, one man leaves.
759
01:00:09,273 --> 01:00:10,951
"Two men enter, one man leaves."
760
01:00:10,975 --> 01:00:12,552
Gunfire in the background.
761
01:00:12,576 --> 01:00:14,454
Tumbleweeds, people
falling on the cactus.
762
01:00:14,478 --> 01:00:15,922
No rules.
763
01:00:15,946 --> 01:00:17,758
Bands playing above where
the people are fighting
764
01:00:17,782 --> 01:00:19,449
and that was like...
765
01:00:20,751 --> 01:00:22,787
Anarchy.
766
01:00:34,699 --> 01:00:36,810
It was
a bunch of shitheads.
767
01:00:36,834 --> 01:00:37,844
And they're going
around in a circle
768
01:00:37,868 --> 01:00:39,913
creating a typhoon of dust.
769
01:00:39,937 --> 01:00:41,314
Dust would get in the cones
770
01:00:41,338 --> 01:00:43,149
so we'd be playing
with blown-out speakers
771
01:00:43,173 --> 01:00:44,651
and crappy sounding.
772
01:00:44,675 --> 01:00:46,286
And you know, they were
having a great time,
773
01:00:46,310 --> 01:00:47,821
but it was like,
this sounds terrible,
774
01:00:47,845 --> 01:00:49,055
we're playing terrible,
775
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:50,556
and these people
don't fucking care.
776
01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:53,650
And it was the chaos
that they liked.
777
01:01:00,925 --> 01:01:03,761
Roll around in
the fucking dirt.
778
01:01:04,995 --> 01:01:08,608
Roll around in
the fucking dirt.
779
01:01:08,632 --> 01:01:10,310
You don't
know what could happen.
780
01:01:10,334 --> 01:01:14,180
Roll in the dirt, roll in
the dirt, roll in the dirt.
781
01:01:14,204 --> 01:01:15,381
And you're
always on the edge,
782
01:01:15,405 --> 01:01:16,883
you're like keeping your
keys in your pocket,
783
01:01:16,907 --> 01:01:18,484
like, "Oh, fuck, should
I get in the car and go?"
784
01:01:18,508 --> 01:01:20,653
And that was good, that was
genuine, you know what I mean?
785
01:01:20,677 --> 01:01:24,114
That was where it made
it feel more real.
786
01:01:26,683 --> 01:01:28,128
Sometimes it was dark,
787
01:01:28,152 --> 01:01:29,796
like weird, a lot of drama,
788
01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:32,565
people that had to get their
anger out in the desert
789
01:01:32,589 --> 01:01:34,500
an do their thing, get drunk,
throw shit at each other,
790
01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:36,794
whatever they needed to do.
791
01:01:38,328 --> 01:01:39,940
Some nights it would
be Mexican gang members
792
01:01:39,964 --> 01:01:42,342
on LSD with shotguns.
793
01:01:42,366 --> 01:01:45,870
And you'd be like,
"This fucking sucks."
794
01:01:47,772 --> 01:01:50,583
Sometimes the partying
became a huge issue.
795
01:01:50,607 --> 01:01:51,985
And partying's a nice way to put
796
01:01:52,009 --> 01:01:53,920
because it got pretty
797
01:01:53,944 --> 01:01:56,222
self destructive
and pretty crazy,
798
01:01:56,246 --> 01:01:57,991
like sick in a way, you know?
799
01:01:58,015 --> 01:01:59,926
I remember one year,
probably about '95,
800
01:01:59,950 --> 01:02:02,987
I played with Decon
at the Nude Bowl.
801
01:02:04,554 --> 01:02:06,833
In the middle of us playing,
802
01:02:06,857 --> 01:02:08,935
somebody tapped
me on the shoulder
803
01:02:08,959 --> 01:02:10,570
and kept pointing behind me.
804
01:02:10,594 --> 01:02:11,738
I didn't know what
he was talking about
805
01:02:11,762 --> 01:02:13,330
because I was
singing at the time.
806
01:02:20,170 --> 01:02:23,183
I turned around, there was
a fire coming over the hill.
807
01:02:23,207 --> 01:02:25,118
And everybody just
scattered, got in their cars,
808
01:02:25,142 --> 01:02:28,021
tried to get down
as fast as we could.
809
01:02:28,045 --> 01:02:29,722
200 people had to evacuate.
810
01:02:29,746 --> 01:02:31,124
We're started throwing
all the instruments
811
01:02:31,148 --> 01:02:32,325
in different cars.
812
01:02:32,349 --> 01:02:35,752
I don't know how we
got all our stuff, man.
813
01:02:37,121 --> 01:02:38,264
One of
our friends ended up
814
01:02:38,288 --> 01:02:39,766
having to leave his truck there.
815
01:02:39,790 --> 01:02:42,735
It got stuck in the dirt
and his truck burnt.
816
01:02:42,759 --> 01:02:45,271
It totally exploded, burnt up.
817
01:02:45,295 --> 01:02:46,773
And then the next morning,
818
01:02:46,797 --> 01:02:49,843
the whole scene of cops and
everyone that was on the scene
819
01:02:49,867 --> 01:02:51,344
were blaming him.
820
01:02:51,368 --> 01:02:53,613
They thought for insurance
purposes or something,
821
01:02:53,637 --> 01:02:55,281
he burnt his truck.
822
01:02:55,305 --> 01:02:57,317
They're like, "So you're the
guy who started the fire."
823
01:02:57,341 --> 01:02:58,718
"What are you talking about?
824
01:02:58,742 --> 01:02:59,886
"There was a huge party."
825
01:02:59,910 --> 01:03:01,121
They're like, "What?"
826
01:03:01,145 --> 01:03:02,288
He was like, "You
mean you didn't know
827
01:03:02,312 --> 01:03:03,589
"there was a huge party
of like 600 people
828
01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:06,492
"and bands and everything?"
829
01:03:06,516 --> 01:03:10,754
Shows the communication between
law enforcement at the time.
830
01:03:26,803 --> 01:03:29,515
What was great about playing
in the canyons and stuff
831
01:03:29,539 --> 01:03:32,318
is that the police
never knew where it was.
832
01:03:32,342 --> 01:03:33,786
The party would
hide behind the dunes,
833
01:03:33,810 --> 01:03:35,721
low enough down there that
you couldn't really see much.
834
01:03:35,745 --> 01:03:37,223
You'd see maybe a
glow or some crap,
835
01:03:37,247 --> 01:03:38,925
but it wasn't much, you know.
836
01:03:38,949 --> 01:03:40,093
Then they got the helicopters,
837
01:03:40,117 --> 01:03:41,062
and then they got two,
838
01:03:41,086 --> 01:03:42,495
and then within, like, what?
839
01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:44,898
The late '90s?
That shit was done.
840
01:03:44,922 --> 01:03:46,332
You couldn't party
anywhere for more
841
01:03:46,356 --> 01:03:49,526
than like an hour,
an hour and a half.
842
01:03:58,535 --> 01:04:00,446
Layers and layers of paint.
843
01:04:00,470 --> 01:04:01,681
If you look and get close,
844
01:04:01,705 --> 01:04:02,782
you can still see
layers of paint
845
01:04:02,806 --> 01:04:05,075
from all the cool graffiti.
846
01:04:09,446 --> 01:04:10,723
As
The time went on,
847
01:04:10,747 --> 01:04:12,325
kind of like the
scene, actually,
848
01:04:12,349 --> 01:04:14,094
it started to crumble,
849
01:04:14,118 --> 01:04:17,297
and it just became
a slab with no walls
850
01:04:17,321 --> 01:04:18,731
and just trash.
851
01:04:18,755 --> 01:04:20,901
With the hillside burnt,
852
01:04:20,925 --> 01:04:24,028
and a car turned
over in the roadway.
853
01:04:53,323 --> 01:04:56,970
I think it
was a really special place.
854
01:04:56,994 --> 01:04:59,930
Can you imagine?
Look at this view.
855
01:05:30,260 --> 01:05:33,006
We had a contest
856
01:05:33,030 --> 01:05:35,041
back in March, I believe,
857
01:05:35,065 --> 01:05:38,711
and it was the first
annual Nude Bowl Tribute.
858
01:05:38,735 --> 01:05:39,779
A lot of kids showed up,
859
01:05:39,803 --> 01:05:41,948
a lot of really good kids
860
01:05:41,972 --> 01:05:43,483
skating in the contest.
861
01:05:43,507 --> 01:05:47,487
Yeah, I'm sure the younger
generation knows for sure.
862
01:05:47,511 --> 01:05:49,346
All right, here we go.
863
01:05:52,182 --> 01:05:55,828
Oh, that's it.
864
01:05:55,852 --> 01:05:57,697
Good night
865
01:05:57,721 --> 01:06:00,590
for the Nude Bowl.
866
01:06:13,403 --> 01:06:14,647
What the fuck?
867
01:06:14,671 --> 01:06:17,474
Let's try to make a
club in the desert.
868
01:06:30,620 --> 01:06:31,897
Get away.
869
01:06:31,921 --> 01:06:34,434
Hey, hey, no cameras.
870
01:06:34,458 --> 01:06:36,469
PA system, and keg box,
871
01:06:36,493 --> 01:06:39,139
cold beer on tap
and a pizza oven.
872
01:06:39,163 --> 01:06:41,374
And we were just like, "What
would be the perfect situation
873
01:06:41,398 --> 01:06:43,633
"for a rock and roll club?"
874
01:06:44,901 --> 01:06:46,879
A big development
in the scene was
875
01:06:46,903 --> 01:06:49,849
when Mario and his
cousin Larry Lalli
876
01:06:49,873 --> 01:06:52,642
opened Rhythm and
Brews in India.
877
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:55,055
Our gourmet chef.
878
01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:56,556
There we are.
879
01:06:56,580 --> 01:06:58,191
Here I am.
880
01:06:58,215 --> 01:07:00,360
What's
on the menu tonight?
881
01:07:00,384 --> 01:07:01,827
One guess.
882
01:07:01,851 --> 01:07:03,853
The usual?
883
01:07:05,589 --> 01:07:07,467
So that was
even radder than the desert
884
01:07:07,491 --> 01:07:10,103
in a lot of way because
it was comfortable
885
01:07:10,127 --> 01:07:11,604
and you could play pool.
886
01:07:11,628 --> 01:07:13,073
There was actually a
sound system you could hear,
887
01:07:13,097 --> 01:07:14,674
and if the wind was
blowing 80 miles an hour,
888
01:07:14,698 --> 01:07:16,609
your mic stand would
stay standing up.
889
01:07:16,633 --> 01:07:17,843
You know what I mean?
890
01:07:17,867 --> 01:07:19,379
Your cymbals wouldn't
blow off the stands.
891
01:07:19,403 --> 01:07:21,171
It was good for that.
892
01:07:22,939 --> 01:07:23,916
You'd sleep on the couches,
893
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:25,051
get up, clean the place,
894
01:07:25,075 --> 01:07:26,786
open up, have
another band show up,
895
01:07:26,810 --> 01:07:28,254
and Mario would get up and play.
896
01:07:28,278 --> 01:07:29,722
We'd practice there and stuff,
897
01:07:29,746 --> 01:07:31,791
it was like a 24-hour thing.
898
01:07:31,815 --> 01:07:34,060
Sometimes, I remember,
I think it was.
899
01:07:34,084 --> 01:07:35,561
Pigmy Love Circus or
something like that,
900
01:07:35,585 --> 01:07:37,029
played for me and
Mario and Larry
901
01:07:37,053 --> 01:07:38,498
and we had a pitcher
of beer, a pizza,
902
01:07:38,522 --> 01:07:40,032
and us three sitting
there watching the band,
903
01:07:40,056 --> 01:07:41,467
and that was it.
904
01:07:41,491 --> 01:07:44,870
Rhythm and
Brews was my training ground.
905
01:07:44,894 --> 01:07:47,673
I was like 15 at the time.
906
01:07:47,697 --> 01:07:49,109
I was probably
weird to some people
907
01:07:49,133 --> 01:07:51,311
as like a rocker with long hair
908
01:07:51,335 --> 01:07:52,369
and whatever.
909
01:07:53,603 --> 01:07:54,747
But at that place,
910
01:07:54,771 --> 01:07:56,682
I was like, I fit in.
911
01:07:56,706 --> 01:07:57,883
And it was all the time.
912
01:07:57,907 --> 01:07:59,085
There'd be weeknights
913
01:07:59,109 --> 01:08:01,020
where some band would come in
914
01:08:01,044 --> 01:08:02,479
from out of town.
915
01:08:18,195 --> 01:08:20,406
Played just a
few parties out in the desert
916
01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:23,008
and then they'd come to
LA to play real shows.
917
01:08:23,032 --> 01:08:25,678
We'd only play in front
of 40, 50, people,
918
01:08:25,702 --> 01:08:28,348
friends back then, you
drink beer and, you know,
919
01:08:28,372 --> 01:08:30,374
take drugs and whatever.
920
01:08:37,814 --> 01:08:41,060
At that time,
this area was so rich in music
921
01:08:41,084 --> 01:08:44,597
that Mario was looking for
a place to showcase it.
922
01:08:44,621 --> 01:08:46,732
But you had to pay
bills and permits
923
01:08:46,756 --> 01:08:48,201
and deal with the police.
924
01:08:48,225 --> 01:08:52,296
And all that shit ended up
shutting us down after a year.
925
01:08:56,433 --> 01:08:59,111
- They put undercover
cops inside the buildings
926
01:08:59,135 --> 01:09:01,714
and they were just
looking for opportunities
927
01:09:01,738 --> 01:09:03,783
to arrest underage kids.
928
01:09:03,807 --> 01:09:04,618
How old were you
when you were going
929
01:09:04,642 --> 01:09:07,086
to Rhythm and Brews?
930
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:08,288
15?
931
01:09:08,312 --> 01:09:09,522
Were you drinking there?
932
01:09:09,546 --> 01:09:10,756
Absolutely.
933
01:09:10,780 --> 01:09:12,392
Yeah, so, that
didn't help Mario.
934
01:09:12,416 --> 01:09:15,195
Minors in his bar drinking.
935
01:09:15,219 --> 01:09:17,897
Acid in the parking lot.
936
01:09:17,921 --> 01:09:19,632
After
they lost their license,
937
01:09:19,656 --> 01:09:21,267
they got involved in a lawsuit
938
01:09:21,291 --> 01:09:23,403
and all the musicians
got together
939
01:09:23,427 --> 01:09:27,407
and put on a benefit
concert to support Mario
940
01:09:27,431 --> 01:09:30,867
and the scene went
dormant for a while.
941
01:09:49,553 --> 01:09:53,366
It really had
an identity of its own, then.
942
01:09:53,390 --> 01:09:56,168
Kyuss was already
really kicking ass,
943
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:58,194
and Unsound was doing...
944
01:09:59,463 --> 01:10:00,973
You know,
945
01:10:00,997 --> 01:10:04,009
was doing huge parties with
hundreds of people there.
946
01:10:04,033 --> 01:10:04,945
And I think the
scene's changed
947
01:10:04,969 --> 01:10:06,312
every four years of high school.
948
01:10:06,336 --> 01:10:07,780
You know what I mean?
949
01:10:07,804 --> 01:10:09,014
You go through high school,
950
01:10:09,038 --> 01:10:09,950
that's the band
that are playing.
951
01:10:09,974 --> 01:10:11,617
Then those people graduate
952
01:10:11,641 --> 01:10:15,111
and then there's a new
generation of people making music.
953
01:10:18,682 --> 01:10:20,493
Unsound
was like Black Flag,
954
01:10:20,517 --> 01:10:22,495
and Kyuss was like
Black Sabbath, you know?
955
01:10:22,519 --> 01:10:24,063
We were two totally
different things,
956
01:10:24,087 --> 01:10:25,655
but the same thing.
957
01:10:35,899 --> 01:10:40,413
When Kyuss played with
Early On, we were like:
958
01:10:40,437 --> 01:10:41,947
Which is great,
959
01:10:41,971 --> 01:10:44,641
because you need that challenge.
960
01:11:08,932 --> 01:11:10,643
We got a
little bit of press and stuff
961
01:11:10,667 --> 01:11:11,911
locally in the desert newspaper.
962
01:11:11,935 --> 01:11:13,479
That was kind of
cool and I remember
963
01:11:13,503 --> 01:11:14,747
the Flip Side interview.
964
01:11:14,771 --> 01:11:16,382
"Oh man, we made it,
we're in Flip Side,
965
01:11:16,406 --> 01:11:18,241
"the punk rock bible."
966
01:11:22,612 --> 01:11:24,424
Unsound is probably
the one band that
967
01:11:24,448 --> 01:11:27,360
people that would be
into desert rock music
968
01:11:27,384 --> 01:11:30,296
wouldn't know, but they
were one of the best.
969
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,031
We'd go to LA and
they'd get super wasted
970
01:11:32,055 --> 01:11:33,599
and blow it and
piss off the people
971
01:11:33,623 --> 01:11:35,134
that were supposed to
be kissing their ass,
972
01:11:35,158 --> 01:11:36,602
and me and Ian would get in
a knife fight in the kitchen
973
01:11:36,626 --> 01:11:38,571
and Brian Maloney would
puke inside their car.
974
01:11:38,595 --> 01:11:40,473
Whatever the case was, it
was just we weren't ready
975
01:11:40,497 --> 01:11:43,075
to deal with anything
semi-professional.
976
01:11:43,099 --> 01:11:44,044
We couldn't
handle the pressure,
977
01:11:44,068 --> 01:11:45,411
we fell apart.
978
01:11:45,435 --> 01:11:48,004
Unsound died in the early '90s.
979
01:11:54,444 --> 01:11:55,612
Unsound lives.
980
01:11:57,947 --> 01:11:59,115
Unsound rules.
981
01:12:00,517 --> 01:12:01,517
I don't know.
982
01:12:02,452 --> 01:12:04,120
See? Nobody knows.
983
01:12:08,692 --> 01:12:10,370
When I was 13, I was in a band
984
01:12:10,394 --> 01:12:13,205
in Palm Desert called Today.
985
01:12:13,229 --> 01:12:14,674
And while I was in that band,
986
01:12:14,698 --> 01:12:16,942
Chris Cockrell and I decided
to start our own band,
987
01:12:16,966 --> 01:12:19,679
it would be called Katzenjammer.
988
01:12:19,703 --> 01:12:23,383
That would evolve into Kyuss.
989
01:12:23,407 --> 01:12:25,485
Brant got
a friend named Josh Homme
990
01:12:25,509 --> 01:12:27,119
to play guitar.
991
01:12:27,143 --> 01:12:29,254
We thought we were like
a punk band, basically.
992
01:12:29,278 --> 01:12:31,624
We thought we were this
heavy version of a punk band.
993
01:12:31,648 --> 01:12:34,660
Everyone else thought we
were heavy metal, you know?
994
01:12:34,684 --> 01:12:36,662
Which actually bugged the
shit out of me for years.
995
01:12:36,686 --> 01:12:38,631
At one point, we
had Nick Oliveri,
996
01:12:38,655 --> 01:12:41,434
who was another friend
of ours from school
997
01:12:41,458 --> 01:12:43,536
try out on guitar.
998
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,439
Nick was the
one stoner dude that hung out
999
01:12:46,463 --> 01:12:49,475
with all of us guys that
weren't into metal, you know?
1000
01:12:49,499 --> 01:12:52,712
But Nick has definitely
made up for it in punk rock
1001
01:12:52,736 --> 01:12:55,939
in a sense, hasn't he?
1002
01:13:04,180 --> 01:13:08,193
Nick was already known
as the loose canon.
1003
01:13:08,217 --> 01:13:10,463
He was already getting fucked
up before school, you know.
1004
01:13:10,487 --> 01:13:12,398
He was like 14 years old.
1005
01:13:12,422 --> 01:13:15,258
And Nick has one of the most
infectious laughs of all time.
1006
01:13:20,497 --> 01:13:22,442
And
then, of course later
1007
01:13:22,466 --> 01:13:25,044
he replaces me on bass.
1008
01:13:25,068 --> 01:13:28,013
* I lost my job
1009
01:13:28,037 --> 01:13:30,382
* I lost my way
1010
01:13:30,406 --> 01:13:34,578
* But I still got a beer.
1011
01:13:35,745 --> 01:13:37,957
Why they broke
out, I don't know.
1012
01:13:37,981 --> 01:13:39,825
You ever listen to The Wretch?
1013
01:13:39,849 --> 01:13:41,618
The first Kyuss thing?
1014
01:13:43,052 --> 01:13:44,363
I went out and bought it
1015
01:13:44,387 --> 01:13:45,331
and I was like, "This
is the worst shit
1016
01:13:45,355 --> 01:13:47,299
"I ever heard in my life."
1017
01:13:47,323 --> 01:13:48,801
And they put out
a fucking record.
1018
01:13:48,825 --> 01:13:50,503
Yeah, but now you can sell
it for a couple hundred bucks.
1019
01:13:50,527 --> 01:13:54,774
Yeah, but I was like, "Man,
I could put out a record.
1020
01:13:54,798 --> 01:13:57,009
"I could take my
band more seriously
1021
01:13:57,033 --> 01:14:00,179
"and wanna put out
some piece of shit
1022
01:14:00,203 --> 01:14:01,614
"that no one else likes.
1023
01:14:01,638 --> 01:14:02,782
"Fuck yeah."
1024
01:14:02,806 --> 01:14:03,783
When we went to
record our first record,
1025
01:14:03,807 --> 01:14:05,384
Brat and I were 16 years old.
1026
01:14:05,408 --> 01:14:08,387
And we showed up with bass
cabinets for guitar cabinets
1027
01:14:08,411 --> 01:14:10,055
and bass amps for guitar amps.
1028
01:14:10,079 --> 01:14:12,525
The engineer was saying,
"You're gonna have to tune up.
1029
01:14:12,549 --> 01:14:14,894
"And you're gonna have
to get guitar amps.
1030
01:14:14,918 --> 01:14:16,529
"We can't do this like this."
1031
01:14:16,553 --> 01:14:17,997
So is that how
Kyuss influenced you?
1032
01:14:18,021 --> 01:14:20,966
That's how Kyuss
influenced me, yes.
1033
01:14:20,990 --> 01:14:22,334
But I did start liking them
1034
01:14:22,358 --> 01:14:25,428
after a couple of
records after that.
1035
01:14:27,196 --> 01:14:31,143
I had no idea
on the levels of success.
1036
01:14:31,167 --> 01:14:33,345
Kyuss was reaching.
1037
01:14:33,369 --> 01:14:34,647
Heard of them playing in Europe
1038
01:14:34,671 --> 01:14:37,106
and this "stoner rock" title.
1039
01:14:44,213 --> 01:14:46,325
It's weird
when people say that.
1040
01:14:46,349 --> 01:14:48,160
Kyuss started stoner rock.
1041
01:14:48,184 --> 01:14:49,762
When I was in Across the River,
1042
01:14:49,786 --> 01:14:51,497
there were a lot
of jam sessions,
1043
01:14:51,521 --> 01:14:53,523
and Kyuss did that, too.
1044
01:14:56,359 --> 01:14:57,637
I think
people associate it
1045
01:14:57,661 --> 01:14:58,871
with two types of things,
1046
01:14:58,895 --> 01:15:01,974
desert rock with kind
of heavier, dirtier,
1047
01:15:01,998 --> 01:15:04,577
then I think there's also
this kind of spacious,
1048
01:15:04,601 --> 01:15:06,411
almost earthlings vibe.
1049
01:15:06,435 --> 01:15:09,873
The low
tuning was a thing.
1050
01:15:11,274 --> 01:15:12,417
Part
of why we tuned down
1051
01:15:12,441 --> 01:15:14,186
was to try to sound
heavy outside,
1052
01:15:14,210 --> 01:15:17,814
and also because I
couldn't afford a tuner.
1053
01:15:21,050 --> 01:15:22,762
I thought, "This is
something no one's doing
1054
01:15:22,786 --> 01:15:26,098
"that would make us different
before we even played a song."
1055
01:15:26,122 --> 01:15:27,857
I would just go blah.
1056
01:15:33,630 --> 01:15:35,007
They got asked
to open for, what was it...
1057
01:15:35,031 --> 01:15:36,275
Metallica in Australia.
1058
01:15:36,299 --> 01:15:37,710
I remember that was like, what?
1059
01:15:37,734 --> 01:15:40,646
They opened up for Metallica.
1060
01:15:40,670 --> 01:15:42,381
"Those guys suck,
they sold out."
1061
01:15:42,405 --> 01:15:44,950
That's how everyone
was, I'm sure. I'm sure.
1062
01:15:44,974 --> 01:15:47,019
It's funny 'cause
the reaction was like,
1063
01:15:47,043 --> 01:15:50,956
"Pfft. Do well, but
don't do too well."
1064
01:15:50,980 --> 01:15:54,017
What I call punk rock guilt.
1065
01:15:59,656 --> 01:16:02,101
The desert
rock scene was so...
1066
01:16:02,125 --> 01:16:05,437
I'm saying this cautiously
but kind of arrogantly,
1067
01:16:05,461 --> 01:16:06,839
insulated.
1068
01:16:06,863 --> 01:16:09,298
It didn't want any attention.
1069
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,079
Basically, this was a
true underground scene.
1070
01:16:14,103 --> 01:16:16,882
These people were
performing without permits,
1071
01:16:16,906 --> 01:16:19,251
and since this was
really guerrilla style,
1072
01:16:19,275 --> 01:16:21,954
they didn't want the publicity.
1073
01:16:21,978 --> 01:16:24,089
The point
was always just to make
1074
01:16:24,113 --> 01:16:27,192
some music and enjoy playing.
1075
01:16:27,216 --> 01:16:30,395
And I think we've always
been kind of scared
1076
01:16:30,419 --> 01:16:32,922
of turning it into a business.
1077
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,038
If Nirvana didn't
break out, you know,
1078
01:16:39,062 --> 01:16:42,041
punk rock and alternative
out to the world,
1079
01:16:42,065 --> 01:16:45,001
who knows what
would have happened.
1080
01:16:47,704 --> 01:16:51,250
I don't know, would Josh Homme
be playing with Dave Grohl?
1081
01:16:51,274 --> 01:16:53,109
20 years later?
1082
01:16:57,546 --> 01:16:59,058
Kyuss broke up.
1083
01:16:59,082 --> 01:17:02,828
Josh went up to Seattle and
that scene kind of broke up,
1084
01:17:02,852 --> 01:17:05,264
but out of that came
Queens of the Stone Age
1085
01:17:05,288 --> 01:17:09,225
and you know what happened
with Queens of the Stone Age.
1086
01:17:53,269 --> 01:17:55,047
It's hard
to mix art and commerce,
1087
01:17:55,071 --> 01:17:57,082
it's a tough thing.
1088
01:17:57,106 --> 01:18:00,485
And if you can do
that, you know,
1089
01:18:00,509 --> 01:18:02,221
and you're brilliant at it,
1090
01:18:02,245 --> 01:18:03,355
that's awesome.
1091
01:18:03,379 --> 01:18:05,124
We went to elementary
school together,
1092
01:18:05,148 --> 01:18:07,760
and I hated him with a passion
1093
01:18:07,784 --> 01:18:10,353
because our class and his class
1094
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,899
were competing in
every sporting event
1095
01:18:13,923 --> 01:18:15,667
and they'd always kick our ass.
1096
01:18:15,691 --> 01:18:17,226
You look fucking wonderful.
1097
01:18:19,328 --> 01:18:21,306
That dude was always
like very supportive
1098
01:18:21,330 --> 01:18:23,332
of local bands and shit.
1099
01:18:24,734 --> 01:18:25,878
I asked him, "Hey,
can Throw Rag do a.
1100
01:18:25,902 --> 01:18:28,580
"Queens of the Stone Age tour?"
1101
01:18:28,604 --> 01:18:30,349
And he said, "Sure."
1102
01:18:30,373 --> 01:18:31,550
And took us on tour.
1103
01:18:31,574 --> 01:18:33,085
All I did was ask.
1104
01:18:33,109 --> 01:18:36,545
* Heaven smiles above me
1105
01:18:38,748 --> 01:18:42,185
* What a gift here below
1106
01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:49,692
* But no one knows
1107
01:18:53,096 --> 01:18:56,699
* Gift that you give to me
1108
01:18:57,934 --> 01:19:02,038
* No one knows.
1109
01:19:07,610 --> 01:19:08,821
Shit's
all right, man,
1110
01:19:08,845 --> 01:19:10,790
put this shit on a
map, for sure, man.
1111
01:19:10,814 --> 01:19:12,291
It's a success, you know,
1112
01:19:12,315 --> 01:19:14,475
we wouldn't be talking about
the desert, I don't think.
1113
01:19:31,167 --> 01:19:33,813
* Super duper pooper
scooper kissing on my chin
1114
01:19:33,837 --> 01:19:36,648
* Little bratty bunker
squad kicking at my shins
1115
01:19:36,672 --> 01:19:39,518
* Ugly duckling sweetie
pies, everybody friends
1116
01:19:39,542 --> 01:19:42,521
* Stuck in a loopty
loop, everybody wins
1117
01:19:42,545 --> 01:19:45,324
* They win, they win
1118
01:19:45,348 --> 01:19:47,426
* They win
1119
01:19:47,450 --> 01:19:49,862
* Everybody wins
1120
01:19:49,886 --> 01:19:51,430
I know
guys that have been...
1121
01:19:51,454 --> 01:19:53,532
Are really amazing musicians
1122
01:19:53,556 --> 01:19:56,368
and have worked their
asses off all their life.
1123
01:19:56,392 --> 01:19:58,003
"What the f... you're going to...
1124
01:19:58,027 --> 01:19:59,504
"How the fuck do you do that?
1125
01:19:59,528 --> 01:20:03,275
"How did that happen that you
can go to Europe and play?"
1126
01:20:03,299 --> 01:20:06,045
I'm like, "You know,
it's a long story,
1127
01:20:06,069 --> 01:20:09,448
"but it started honestly with
this band from the desert..."
1128
01:20:09,472 --> 01:20:11,917
And I try to explain this
whole thing, you know, like,
1129
01:20:11,941 --> 01:20:13,418
"Started with this
band from the desert
1130
01:20:13,442 --> 01:20:15,654
"that got some success and
they get a couple good tours
1131
01:20:15,678 --> 01:20:17,890
"and then they got
kinda big in Europe
1132
01:20:17,914 --> 01:20:20,092
"and somehow that
ended up in us getting
1133
01:20:20,116 --> 01:20:23,295
"the opportunity to go play
in some fucking pizzeria
1134
01:20:23,319 --> 01:20:25,397
"in Latina, Italy."
1135
01:20:25,421 --> 01:20:27,156
And it's like, "How?"
1136
01:20:28,958 --> 01:20:30,135
I'm super
grateful for that.
1137
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:32,537
And to me, that's success,
1138
01:20:32,561 --> 01:20:34,197
that's huge success.
1139
01:21:08,531 --> 01:21:12,701
* And I feel ashamed
when you work so hard
1140
01:21:14,203 --> 01:21:17,941
* Yeah I feel ashamed when
I see you work so hard *
1141
01:22:11,427 --> 01:22:13,305
It's not...
1142
01:22:13,329 --> 01:22:16,665
Usual that a father
and son will play...
1143
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,002
In the same band.
1144
01:22:20,436 --> 01:22:21,680
Look at Mario
1145
01:22:21,704 --> 01:22:23,082
and look at Herb,
both of them play
1146
01:22:23,106 --> 01:22:24,416
in bands with their sons.
1147
01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:25,650
That's pretty bitchin.
1148
01:22:25,674 --> 01:22:26,586
When I see that, it
makes me wish I woulda
1149
01:22:26,610 --> 01:22:28,287
had a kid 19 years ago.
1150
01:22:28,311 --> 01:22:30,789
My son's in another
band called Nuclear Youth,
1151
01:22:30,813 --> 01:22:34,059
which is, you know,
early 20s, teenage guys.
1152
01:22:34,083 --> 01:22:37,820
And I think there's really
another scene kind of happening.
1153
01:22:41,924 --> 01:22:44,736
They play like
parties and stuff
1154
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,405
and it's like a punk
band playing a party
1155
01:22:46,429 --> 01:22:48,073
and like where we live it's like
1156
01:22:48,097 --> 01:22:50,242
dj's and like techno music.
1157
01:22:50,266 --> 01:22:54,446
So, punk and metal is
still alive in the desert.
1158
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:55,981
And maybe even
tonight, you know,
1159
01:22:56,005 --> 01:22:58,917
some high school party,
some kids parents are out
1160
01:22:58,941 --> 01:23:00,452
and there's a rad
band in high school.
1161
01:23:00,476 --> 01:23:02,378
I'm sure it's happening.
1162
01:23:12,621 --> 01:23:15,034
They're still singing
about the desert and 7/11
1163
01:23:15,058 --> 01:23:16,435
and stuff like that,
1164
01:23:16,459 --> 01:23:18,394
but they're just
doing it...
1165
01:23:40,083 --> 01:23:41,960
They're playing all the time.
1166
01:23:41,984 --> 01:23:44,429
There's parties on
Coachella, Thermal,
1167
01:23:44,453 --> 01:23:45,830
you know, at ranches and stuff.
1168
01:23:45,854 --> 01:23:48,500
And that's really kind
of what it was for us
1169
01:23:48,524 --> 01:23:50,235
back then at that age.
1170
01:23:50,259 --> 01:23:52,737
I wish I'd been around
when all that stuff happened
1171
01:23:52,761 --> 01:23:56,932
'cause it sounds so much
better than what goes down now.
1172
01:24:07,610 --> 01:24:10,089
Another
generation will go through it,
1173
01:24:10,113 --> 01:24:12,281
and it'll be a good thing.
1174
01:24:29,332 --> 01:24:31,776
It didn't matter
what you were on
1175
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,878
or what you aren't on,
1176
01:24:33,902 --> 01:24:36,639
it's still a
surreal environment.
1177
01:27:20,936 --> 01:27:22,414
You think about
going out there
1178
01:27:22,438 --> 01:27:25,216
in the middle of the desert
and playing music for nobody,
1179
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,152
and there's something kind of
romantic about that in a way.
1180
01:27:28,176 --> 01:27:29,654
You know?
1181
01:27:29,678 --> 01:27:31,013
And I like that.
1182
01:28:12,821 --> 01:28:14,599
Such wide, open space,
1183
01:28:14,623 --> 01:28:18,794
that I think a lot of the
bands from around have that.
1184
01:28:21,497 --> 01:28:24,343
What is unique
about the desert
1185
01:28:24,367 --> 01:28:25,844
was the desert, you know,
1186
01:28:25,868 --> 01:28:29,213
that's what is different
than everywhere else.
1187
01:28:29,237 --> 01:28:31,416
Beautiful mountains
and lots of palm trees,
1188
01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:34,218
but there's also
elements of the desert
1189
01:28:34,242 --> 01:28:38,122
that's not so physical,
that are just like...
1190
01:28:38,146 --> 01:28:39,915
Eternal.
1191
01:28:46,422 --> 01:28:48,967
It's
weird and it's cool
1192
01:28:48,991 --> 01:28:50,802
that there's
attention paid to it
1193
01:28:50,826 --> 01:28:53,938
from people that
are not from there.
1194
01:28:53,962 --> 01:28:56,975
Basically, golf and old
people and daydreamers.
1195
01:28:56,999 --> 01:28:59,668
And Swedish people looking
for something special.
1196
01:29:03,639 --> 01:29:08,119
If it will fit into what
they might think it is,
1197
01:29:08,143 --> 01:29:11,656
if they think that it's a
bunch of bands that are heavy,
1198
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:12,857
that sound like Kyuss,
1199
01:29:12,881 --> 01:29:15,527
then no, that's not
what it's about.
1200
01:29:15,551 --> 01:29:18,262
That's never been
what it's about.
1201
01:29:18,286 --> 01:29:22,458
But if they think about it
in the beauty of the desert
1202
01:29:23,325 --> 01:29:25,837
and the purity of the music
1203
01:29:25,861 --> 01:29:26,971
and the bands that
played down there,
1204
01:29:26,995 --> 01:29:28,697
then I think that is true.
1205
01:29:41,510 --> 01:29:45,414
* Bring me three poison arrows
1206
01:29:46,314 --> 01:29:49,260
* Long, straight, and narrow
1207
01:29:49,284 --> 01:29:52,354
* I found bad advice
1208
01:29:54,089 --> 01:29:57,860
* Way down here on the water
1209
01:29:58,927 --> 01:30:02,040
* Words get forgotten
1210
01:30:02,064 --> 01:30:05,300
* Can say what we like
1211
01:30:07,770 --> 01:30:10,649
* Is this love?
1212
01:30:10,673 --> 01:30:13,842
* Can we start again?
1213
01:30:17,379 --> 01:30:20,158
* Comes crashing in
1214
01:30:20,182 --> 01:30:24,629
* Lord knows what
truth to tell the liar
1215
01:30:24,653 --> 01:30:27,566
* The brothers in the fire
1216
01:30:27,590 --> 01:30:30,993
* Turning lies into life
1217
01:30:37,399 --> 01:30:40,545
* To a life of all the lessons
1218
01:30:40,569 --> 01:30:44,740
* Till you still don't
know what's right
1219
01:30:58,487 --> 01:31:01,766
* Is this love?
1220
01:31:01,790 --> 01:31:04,960
* Can we start again?
1221
01:31:08,396 --> 01:31:11,743
* Comes crashing in
1222
01:31:11,767 --> 01:31:14,513
* Is this love?
1223
01:31:14,537 --> 01:31:17,706
* Can we start again?
1224
01:31:21,544 --> 01:31:24,547
* Comes crashing in
1225
01:31:30,285 --> 01:31:34,899
* Bring me three poison arrows
1226
01:31:34,923 --> 01:31:38,169
* Long, straight, and narrow
1227
01:31:38,193 --> 01:31:41,263
* I found bad advice
1228
01:31:43,599 --> 01:31:47,912
* I'm the way down
here on the bottom
1229
01:31:47,936 --> 01:31:50,949
* Words get forgotten
1230
01:31:50,973 --> 01:31:54,142
* We say what we like
1231
01:31:56,712 --> 01:31:59,457
* Is this love?
1232
01:31:59,481 --> 01:32:02,585
* Can we start again?
1233
01:32:05,988 --> 01:32:08,991
* Comes crashing in.
1234
01:32:10,759 --> 01:32:12,637
Are you rolling?
1235
01:32:12,661 --> 01:32:14,897
Wanna roll a joint?
1236
01:35:43,872 --> 01:35:46,050
So
There's a saying
1237
01:35:46,074 --> 01:35:48,019
I've heard from old
India friends of mine,
1238
01:35:48,043 --> 01:35:50,545
"You have sand in your blood."
1239
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:56,251
"Your family, my family,
we got sand in our blood."90918
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