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WILLIAM SHATNER: You know,
I've been around for a while.
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Met some interesting people,
done some crazy things.
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So you just might think
that there's not much that
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can take me by surprise.
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You'd be wrong.
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The world is full of
stories and science and
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things that amaze and
confound me every single day,
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incredible mysteries that
keep me awake at night.
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Some I can answer.
Others just defy logic.
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NARRATOR: Does the human
mind possess powers beyond
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our comprehension?
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A housewife's psychic
vision helps crack
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a major murder case.
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ETTA SMITH: I never wanted
to be so wrong in my life.
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NARRATOR: Can crimes be
solved with psychic power?
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A Californian man
remembers every moment
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from every day
of his life.
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BOB PETRELLA: I can
remember something so
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clearly and then I go wow,
that was forty-one years ago.
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NARRATOR: Is total
recall possible?
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And a faith healer cures
terminal disease with prayer.
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Is it a miracle, or an amazing
display of mind over matter?
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TRAPPERJACK KELLER: If this
was just placebo effect,
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you would find a
handful of stories.
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You don't. You have thousands.
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WILLIAM SHATNER: Yeah,
it's a weird world.
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And I love it.
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[♪]
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WILLIAM SHATNER:
The human brain.
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It's the most complex,
advanced and many would
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say beautiful
thing in nature.
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But how much do
we know about it?
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Well here's some
facts for you.
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Did you know that it
can process over 70,000
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thoughts a day?
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BRAIN: This is actually
a cow brain so it's more
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like seven thoughts.
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WILLIAM SHATNER: Or that
it has over 10,000 miles
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of blood vessels?
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BRAIN: Could you put it back
please? I need that.
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WILLIAM SHATNER: Or that
it doesn't feel pain?
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BRAIN: Ouch, that hurts.
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WILLIAM SHATNER: But these
amazing abilities are
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really only the
tip of the iceberg.
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The big question is what
don't we know about this
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incredible stuff?
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What else can it do?
This is so great.
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Your brain generates
between ten and
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twenty-three watts of
power, enough energy to
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power a light bulb.
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Impressive, huh?
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BRAIN: This is pathetic.
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WILLIAM SHATNER:
Weird or what?
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NARRATOR: 1980. Los Angeles,
California.
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A massive police search
grips the small suburban
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community of local
housewife Etta Smith.
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ETTA SMITH: I think we
were a little edgy because
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having things like that happen
wasn't the everyday practice.
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NARRATOR: A hospital nurse
is missing and feared dead.
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Astoundingly, Etta was
about to find herself at
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the center of the
investigation -
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in the most bizarre way.
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ETTA SMITH: I made it a
point to listen to the
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news during the day about
this nurse missing and the
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news said they were making
a house-to-house search.
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At the moment that they
said house-to-house
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search, everything
went haywire.
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It was like I was
seeing a movie.
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I began to see this area.
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I saw a trail, I
saw a dirt path.
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I saw something white
through the bushes and I,
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I knew where it was.
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NARRATOR: For the first
time in her life, Etta's
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had a psychic vision.
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She's convinced she knows
where the nurse is.
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She's terrified
and confused.
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ETTA SMITH: I didn't know
what to think of it.
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There's some things that
you just can't explain away.
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I'm arguing with myself.
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Should I go
tell the police?
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They're gonna
think I'm crazy.
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But what if she's there
and she needs help?
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NARRATOR: Etta decides
to drive to where she
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believes the nurse to
be - a nearby canyon.
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Just being there seems
to increase her newfound
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psychic abilities.
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ETTA SMITH: I see a big
spray of dirt and tire
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marks and I laid my hands
into the tire prints, and
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as soon as I did I could
feel trauma, I mean bad.
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By then, my heart is
just fluttering and I'm
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thinking all I want to
do is get out of here.
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NARRATOR: Fighting her fear,
Etta follows her instinct.
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ETTA SMITH: Down the
embankment, out the dirt
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path, I see something.
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There was white
nurse's shoes.
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And I said oh my
God, it's her.
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I never wanted to be
so wrong in my life.
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All I could think of was
run, get out of here,
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get to the police.
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NARRATOR: When the police
arrive, Etta's in for a
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huge shock.
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Instead of thanking her,
they're convinced she must
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have had something to
do with the murder.
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To her horror,
she's arrested.
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ETTA SMITH: It
was shocking.
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I cried 'til I
couldn't cry anymore.
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Strip-searched me, put
me in a cell by myself.
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It was a nightmare.
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NARRATOR: After four days
behind bars, Etta is
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finally released.
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Soon after, the killers
- three local men - are
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arrested and convicted
of rape and murder.
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Etta sues the police for
false arrest, and after
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six years of legal
battles she wins.
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But even now, Etta
struggles to make sense
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of the whole thing.
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ETTA SMITH: I don't know
if it was her spirit that
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came and touched me to
allow me to have the
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vision that I had.
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I, I don't know. I, it's
one of those mysteries.
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NARRATOR: What did Etta
Smith experience that day?
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Did she have a genuine
psychic vision?
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Remarkably, many psychic
detectives claim to solve
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crimes by means of
mysterious insights.
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Is this possible?
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JOE NICKELL: I'd say there
are two kinds of psychics
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- those who have no
psychic ability but
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believe they do and we
call them fantasizers.
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The other type also has no
psychic ability, they know
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they don't and we
call them charlatans.
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NARRATOR: Joe Nickell
researches paranormal claims.
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He believes there's no
such thing as psychic
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vision or extrasensory
perception.
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JOE NICKELL: The history
of ESP has been a history
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of self-deception,
deception, wishful
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thinking, playing games
with statistics, and not
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one person has been able
to do anything meaningful.
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NARRATOR: But if psychic
ability doesn't exist,
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how do psychic detectives
achieve such amazing results?
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JOE NICKELL: The typical
psychic engages in
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something we call
retrofitting or after the
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fact matching.
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You throw out some
so-called clues -
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I'm getting water, I see a
tall structure - and then
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the next thing you know
the search party found the
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remains and in comes the
psychic saying, you know,
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I mentioned water and that
body was found near a
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creek or a pond or Riverside
Drive or a water tower.
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Remember the tall
structure I mentioned?
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And they get by with this.
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NARRATOR: Did Etta Smith
just make a lucky guess?
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JOE NICKELL: It's not so
simple that everyone who
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claims to be a psychic
is a simple fraud.
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Some, some of course are.
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But some are simply
self-deceived.
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They're what would
generally be called a
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fantasy-prone personality.
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And they believe that what
they imagine seems very
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real to them and yet they
have no special powers.
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The average psychic
detective is no use to police.
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In my opinion, they
provide no real evidence,
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they create false hope,
and they have done it at
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the expense of promoting
ignorance and superstition
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in our society.
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WILLIAM SHATNER: I see a
long life full of riches
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and a man name Stephen.
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Does that ring a bell?
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You know many of us have
been to palm readers,
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fortune tellers, people
who claim to have amazing
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psychic abilities who are
really nothing but fakes.
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But Etta Smith wasn't someone
performing cheap tricks.
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She saw something in her
mind even the police
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couldn't understand.
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Would she do it just
for fame and fortune?
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Or is she truly psychic?
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No Stephen?
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What about Harry?
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NARRATOR: Are
psychics real?
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How did Etta Smith
help solve a murder?
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TANA HOY: Etta definitely
had a psychic vision.
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She had a
clairvoyant vision.
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NARRATOR: A Los Angeles
woman has a strange and
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sudden vision which helps
police solve a murder.
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Was it a genuine
psychic phenomenon?
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Popular psychic
Tana Hoy thinks so.
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TANA HOY: When I first
read Etta's story my
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reaction that I had was
wow, this woman had a
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spontaneous
psychic memory.
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I believe that the spirit
was drawing her, pulling
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her to go and
find her body.
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NARRATOR: If anyone can
testify to how important
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psychic visions can be
to the police, it's Hoy.
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He's helped investigators
solve a double-homicide
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and, while on live radio,
predicted a terrorist
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attack ninety minutes
before the Oklahoma City
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bombing in 1995.
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TANA HOY: A person can
hear a word, a phrase, and
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it will awaken a psychic
memory or a psychic vision
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within that person.
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She's awakened this
vision and she saw the
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canyon where the body was.
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That's an example of
clairvoyant experience:
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clear seeing.
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And when she placed her
hand in the tire tracks
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she was making a direct
connection with the energy
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imprint of the vehicle.
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Etta definitely had
a psychic vision.
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She had a
clairvoyant vision.
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NARRATOR: But if Etta's
vision was for real,
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why didn't the police
believe her?
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TANA HOY: We're going back
to 1980 so back then we
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didn't have the awareness of
psychics that we have today.
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Today we see TV shows and we
see psychics on talk shows.
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I don't feel that she would
have been arrested today.
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NARRATOR: So given their
remarkable successes,
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should detectives add
psychics to the force?
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TANA HOY: A lot of
psychics when they work
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with police departments they
don't do it for publicity.
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They do it to help
and give back.
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So it happens a lot more
than we ever hear about.
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NARRATOR: But did Etta
Smith really see something
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with her mind?
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Psychology professor
Tim Moore thinks not.
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TIM MOORE: I think Etta
may have overheard
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information in the
community without fully
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processing it at the time that
she acquired it, but later
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on it registered and prompted
her to go to the police.
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NARRATOR: Moore believes
something in Etta's
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unconscious memory
triggered what she thought
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was a psychic vision.
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Psychologists call it
source misattribution.
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TIM MOORE: Source
misattribution - you have
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information to which you falsely
attribute having acquired
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as a result of experience
when in fact it's been
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suggested to you or provided
to you by someone else.
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NARRATOR: Etta Smith wasn't
the killer, so how could she
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have any idea where
the body was?
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TIM MOORE: My
understanding is that the
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actual culprits were
blabbermouths and they
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talked about what
they had done in their
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neighbourhood, which
was her neighbourhood.
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psychic vision be mistaken
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for random information she
had nothing to do with?
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TIM MOORE: If Etta's not
concentrating on the
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information at the time
that she's hearing it
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because it's not the focus
of her attention,
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the information nevertheless
gets in but she doesn't
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remember the source.
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At some later date she
hears information on the
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news that the police are
looking for a missing body.
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hazily or without
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appreciating how she came
by that information.
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NARRATOR: But how could Etta
have known the exact location
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of the body - the precise
road in the right canyon?
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TIM MOORE: I believe she's
familiar with the area so
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the original information
could easily have
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triggered a cognitive map.
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The canyon roads there,
for example, are pretty
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distinctive.
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just on the basis of what
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she overheard where
the body probably was.
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I mean that's
not a stretch.
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NARRATOR: Did the
unexpected recall of
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a hidden memory lead
Etta to the body?
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Or did she experience a
genuine psychic event,
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which helped solve a case
the police could not?
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Whatever the truth, this
story is most definitely
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weird or what?
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SHATNER: You know, the
human brain has been
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evolving for
uhhh - hold it.
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How long has it
been evolving?
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DIRECTOR: 2.5
million years.
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WILLIAM SHATNER: 2.5 million
years. Got it. Okay.
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ASSISTANT: 903
Baker, take 2 marker.
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DIRECTOR: Action.
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WILLIAM SHATNER: You know,
the human brain has been
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evolving for two and a
half million years but
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perhaps one of the
greatest things that sets
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us apart from any other
creature is the power of -
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damn!
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ASSISTANT: 903,
take three, marker.
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DIRECTOR: Action.
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SHATNER: You know, the
human brainas been
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evolving for two and a
half million years but
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perhaps one of the
greatest things that sets us
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apart from any other creature
is the power of our memory.
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[Applause]
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Where
are my keys?
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Oh wow.
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NARRATOR: They say that
everyone has a special
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talent, and in Bob
Petrella's case that's
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certainly true.
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But he possesses something
so special it sets him
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apart from the
rest of humankind.
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BOB PETRELLA: The
reaction kind of varies.
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A lot of people are
amazed, a lot of people
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call it a phenomena that's
strange and unusual.
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NARRATOR: Even old friends
are still shocked when
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they see Bob's
power on display.
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FEMALE FRIEND: Very
good. Very good.
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MALE FRIEND:
May 18th, 1980.
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BOB: Oh, that's
Mount St. Helens.
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MALE FRIEND: Nerve gas
attack in Tokyo Subway.
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BOB: March 20th, '95.
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MALE FRIEND: Correct.
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FEMALE FRIEND: Princess
Diana's wedding.
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BOB: July 29th, '81.
It was a Wednesday.
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NARRATOR: It may seem that
Bob just has a gift for
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remembering trivia, but
there's much more to his
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incredible talent.
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He can remember nearly
every single moment from
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every single
day of his life.
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BOB: I threw a bowl of
soup on the ceiling on
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March 13th, '75.
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BOB PETRELLA: Sometimes
they think you're lying.
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They think you're
making it up.
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NARRATOR: But every fact Bob
pulls from his mind is correct.
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His memory is
somehow perfect.
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MALE FRIEND:
When's my birthday?
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BOB: November 8th.
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MALE FRIEND:
What's the year?
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BOB: Sixty-eight.
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MALE FRIEND: What day
of the week was it?
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BOB: Friday.
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MALE FRIEND: What were
you doing that day?
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BOB: I was at a football
game watching Beaver Falls
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play Oakville.
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Beaver Falls got
beat, I think 28 to 7.
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NARRATOR: Unbelievable
though it seems,
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Bob remembers every detail of
every experience he's ever had.
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FEMALE FRIEND: It's
a little unnerving.
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BOB PETRELLA: Sometimes I
even amaze myself and I'll
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remember mundane things
about when I got a haircut
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or what I had for
lunch on a certain day.
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A lot of people are like,
they look at you and just
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totally amazed.
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NARRATOR: But how
is this possible?
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We all know our memory
is far from complete.
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Words and names stick on
the tips of our tongues,
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to say nothing of the
inconsequential details of
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daily life.
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MALE FRIEND: May 1st. Let's go
back May 1st. Ten years.
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BOB: What was that?
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Well May 1st, '91 I was
wrapping up a job at
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Pacific State University.
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That was a Tuesday and
that was the NFL draft.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah and then
May 1st '81 I was house
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sitting in Laurel Canyon for
this woman named Autumn Bond.
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NARRATOR: Incredibly,
Bob's not the only person
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with a perfect memory.
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He is part of an
exclusive club.
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Around twenty people
worldwide have what
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scientists now call super
autobiographical memory -
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the ability to remember every
single day of their lives.
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BOB PETRELLA: Yeah,
the amazing part to me
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sometimes is I can
remember something so
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clearly and then I'll go wow,
that was forty-one years ago.
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I'm not sure how it works.
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It came natural to me.
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WILLIAM SHATNER: A man
with a super memory that can
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remember the tiniest detail
from every part of his life?
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Now that's impressive.
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But he's not the only one.
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You see I've got some
tricks of the trade myself.
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For instance I've
forgotten where I put my
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phone and to stimulate my
memory I use another phone
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to uh call it.
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And then I listen and then
I simply head towards the
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source of the sound and I
should find it in the last
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place I was doing
something important.
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Okay. I know it's in here.
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No. Come on.
Yeah. No. Ah you see?
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[phone rings]
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It works every time.
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Hello?
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The ice cream is in
the refrigerator.
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NARRATOR: So what explains
Bob Petrella's incredible gift?
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Could the rest of us
have this super-power?
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JAMES MCGAUGH: We all
have this capacity.
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NARRATOR: A Californian
man has an incredible gift.
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He's able to remember
every detail of
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every day of his life.
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Does he possess a
kind of super power?
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GARY MARCUS: When I first
heard about um this idea
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it didn't smell
right to me.
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NARRATOR: Gary Marcus is
a cognitive scientist.
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He believes people with
super memory might not
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be so super after all.
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GARY MARCUS: I think
what's really happening in
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this syndrome is that
people are really spending
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a lot of time studying
their own lives.
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People might try to
remember the past
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because they want to
hold on to it.
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It's not necessarily
voluntary though.
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Most of us if we're
interested in something
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don't obsess over it.
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I think one thing that
often happens in this
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syndrome is people are
particularly interested
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in the details of
their own lives.
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NARRATOR: So is super memory
just a form of obsession?
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To find out, Marcus spent
time with other people who
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also claim they have it.
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GARY MARCUS: I think that
people who have studied
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this phenomena have
focused on what the people
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who have the phenomena
are good at but with the
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person that I tested that
had this kind of syndrome
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I kind of focused on some
things that I thought they
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might be bad at
and indeed were.
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NARRATOR: When given
standard memory tests,
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like recalling lists of
words, Marcus found people
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with so-called super
memory did no better than
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anyone else.
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GARY MARCUS: The idea of
photographic memory is a
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myth and there's no human
being that really has the
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level of control over their
memory that a computer does.
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People with superior
autobiographical memory
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get really good at
memorizing the details of
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their own lives but it doesn't
extend to everything.
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If they're not interested
in it they're not gonna to
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remember it.
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NARRATOR: So has Bob
simply chosen to
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obsessively memorize
his entire life?
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Not everyone is convinced.
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FEMALE FRIEND: See I
don't even remember this!
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NARRATOR: Dr. James
McGaugh was the first
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psychologist to
study super memory.
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JAMES MCGAUGH: The most
surprising thing about
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this ability to me is what
surprises everybody -
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the fact that it can
be done at all.
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NARRATOR: After
interviewing more than a
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dozen people with super
memory, he's convinced
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they are not
merely obsessive.
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JAMES MCGAUGH: One of our
subjects made this very
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clear when somebody
suggested that all that
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she does is sit around and
re-rehearse all of her
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information and she said
let me get this straight.
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I have a full time job
and I have a life and I'm
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supposed to be sitting
around re-rehearsing all
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of those experiences.
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Highly unlikely.
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NARRATOR: McGaugh feels
that people like Bob are
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a real phenomena with
memories way, way beyond
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that of even
the best minds.
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JAMES MCGAUGH: An average
person can learn to do
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some memory tricks.
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There are individuals who
have memorized the number
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Pi out to 30,000 places.
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But that type of ability
is restricted to that kind
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of information.
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People with superior
autobiographical memory
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capture their daily
experiences and it doesn't
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really make much
difference what kind of
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information it is,
they just hold it.
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NARRATOR: But if it's not
an obsession, how else
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would they remember their
lives in such detail?
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McGaugh is working on
an incredible theory.
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JAMES MCGAUGH: One
possibility is that we all
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store all this information
about all of our
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experiences in our
brain someplace.
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We all have this capacity
and they are able to tap
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this capacity in
ways that we can't.
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NARRATOR: But how come
people like Bob are able
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to do this and the
rest of us can't?
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JAMES MCGAUGH: We're
beginning to find that
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there are some regions of
the brains of our subjects
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who have this strong
memory that are larger
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than the same regions in
control subjects of the
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same age and sex.
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NARRATOR: It's believed
part of the brain called
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the caudate nuclei is
seven times larger in
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people with super memory.
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Could this somehow
explain Bob's gift?
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JAMES MCGAUGH: If the
human brain is capable of
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doing that, that tells us
that the human brain has
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this amazing capacity.
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There's something really
important here, something
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unique and something
important.
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NARRATOR: Do super
memorizers have turbo
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charged brains?
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Or is there another answer
to this mystery of the mind?
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BOB: And I say okay and I
see the year and I see the
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month and then it
cues in to the day.
486
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NARRATOR: A man has
an amazing ability.
487
00:24:44,533 --> 00:24:46,733
He can remember almost
every moment from every
488
00:24:46,867 --> 00:24:48,027
day of his life.
489
00:24:48,166 --> 00:24:51,926
But how?
490
00:24:52,066 --> 00:24:54,496
Dr. Mary Spiller is a
psychologist at the
491
00:24:54,633 --> 00:24:56,473
University of East London.
492
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,500
She believes super memory
could be explained by a
493
00:24:58,633 --> 00:25:02,573
medical condition
called synesthesia.
494
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:05,370
MARY SPILLER: Synesthesia
is probably best thought
495
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:07,730
of as a crossing
of the senses.
496
00:25:07,867 --> 00:25:10,227
So someone with
synesthesia, when they
497
00:25:10,367 --> 00:25:12,667
hear music they may see
colours or when they hear
498
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,830
words they might
have tastes.
499
00:25:14,967 --> 00:25:17,827
So for example, the word
tomorrow might taste like bacon.
500
00:25:17,967 --> 00:25:22,267
The word computer might
taste like ice cream.
501
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,730
NARRATOR: It's an amazing
concept, but how could it
502
00:25:23,867 --> 00:25:27,267
result in super memory?
503
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,330
Dr. Spiller believes
people like Bob may have a
504
00:25:29,467 --> 00:25:30,897
rare form of the
condition, called
505
00:25:31,033 --> 00:25:33,533
time-space synesthesia.
506
00:25:33,667 --> 00:25:35,867
MARY SPILLER: People with
time-space synesthesia see time.
507
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,800
For example, someone may
think of the months of the
508
00:25:38,934 --> 00:25:42,274
year as being located in a
circle around their body.
509
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,930
So January could be here
and then February, March,
510
00:25:47,066 --> 00:25:49,266
April, May and so on
around their body and this
511
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,030
can work for
years as well.
512
00:25:52,166 --> 00:25:54,426
NARRATOR: Could the
ability to see time allow
513
00:25:54,567 --> 00:25:57,597
people to keep their
memories perfectly organized?
514
00:25:57,734 --> 00:25:59,274
MARY SPILLER: So if you
ask the synesthete where
515
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,730
is this particular Monday
in 1978, they always know
516
00:26:02,867 --> 00:26:05,997
where in space that moment
in time is, almost as if
517
00:26:06,133 --> 00:26:07,803
they're looking it up
in a filing cabinet.
518
00:26:07,934 --> 00:26:10,404
This gives people with
time-space synesthesia an
519
00:26:10,533 --> 00:26:12,303
advantage when it comes
to remembering
520
00:26:12,433 --> 00:26:13,803
when things happened.
521
00:26:13,934 --> 00:26:15,434
NARRATOR: Sure enough,
when people with super
522
00:26:15,567 --> 00:26:17,767
memory are asked to
remember an event,
523
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:19,300
they speak like they
are seeing it.
524
00:26:19,433 --> 00:26:21,173
BOB: And I see
where May 1st is.
525
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:25,670
I see the year and I see
the month and then it cues
526
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,170
into the day.
527
00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:29,770
NARRATOR: Could this be
proof that Bob and others with
528
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:34,970
super memory have some form
of time-space synesthesia?
529
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:36,070
MARY SPILLER: I think it's
definitely possible that
530
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,600
other individuals
with highly superior
531
00:26:37,734 --> 00:26:41,434
autobiographical memory could
have time-space synesthesia.
532
00:26:41,567 --> 00:26:43,667
Having a 3D sense of time
could potentially have
533
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,300
huge benefits for someone
when storing memories.
534
00:26:48,433 --> 00:26:51,273
NARRATOR: Does the ability
to see time explain Bob's
535
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,000
near total recall?
536
00:26:55,133 --> 00:26:57,503
Or is it because he has a
slightly different brain
537
00:26:57,633 --> 00:26:59,403
than the rest of us?
538
00:26:59,533 --> 00:27:03,573
Or, are people with super
memory such fans of their
539
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:06,700
own lives they can't stand
to forget a minute of it?
540
00:27:06,834 --> 00:27:08,934
Weird or what?
541
00:27:09,066 --> 00:27:18,496
[♪]
542
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,530
WILLIAM SHATNER: You know it was
mybirthday the other day.
543
00:27:23,667 --> 00:27:28,427
As you can see I got some
really great presents.
544
00:27:28,567 --> 00:27:31,727
The problem is with this
new fangled packaging,
545
00:27:31,867 --> 00:27:34,297
it's a miracle if
you can get them out!
546
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,700
Hang on.
547
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,000
This should do the job.
548
00:27:58,166 --> 00:28:01,866
Oh well at least
I got it open.
549
00:28:03,266 --> 00:28:06,166
But do miracles, even
small ones, have a
550
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:08,100
rational explanation?
551
00:28:08,233 --> 00:28:12,473
Or are they gifts from a
divine and superior power?
552
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,970
Or are they
something else?
553
00:28:16,333 --> 00:28:18,703
NARRATOR: In 1993, Julie
Spohn was living a happy
554
00:28:18,834 --> 00:28:23,304
life with her children
and husband Greg, but one
555
00:28:23,433 --> 00:28:28,733
August night her life was
suddenly ripped apart.
556
00:28:28,867 --> 00:28:31,667
GREG SPOHN: We were having
a dinner and suddenly
557
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,130
Julie sat down and I heard
a cracking sound like a
558
00:28:36,266 --> 00:28:41,426
broken baseball bat and saw
her head fall to the table.
559
00:28:41,567 --> 00:28:43,397
NARRATOR: In a horrible
freak accident, Julie had
560
00:28:43,533 --> 00:28:47,803
smashed her head on a
shelf behind her seat.
561
00:28:47,934 --> 00:28:49,874
GREG SPOHN: And that's the
last time I saw my wife
562
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,970
for many years as far
as the Julie I knew.
563
00:28:55,066 --> 00:28:57,166
JULIE SPOHN: I'd fractured
the temporal bone in the
564
00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:02,600
back of my head and which led
to a significant brain bleed.
565
00:29:02,734 --> 00:29:04,204
NARRATOR: It's a
very serious injury.
566
00:29:04,333 --> 00:29:08,333
In that moment, Julie's
world turned upside-down.
567
00:29:10,433 --> 00:29:12,003
JULIE SPOHN: For the next
thirteen years to put it
568
00:29:12,133 --> 00:29:14,233
bluntly my life
was pure hell.
569
00:29:14,367 --> 00:29:19,097
I literally had headaches
every single day.
570
00:29:19,233 --> 00:29:21,503
I had visual problems.
571
00:29:21,633 --> 00:29:26,773
I couldn't walk.
I couldn't sleep.
572
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:28,470
NARRATOR: Julie visited
some of the best doctors
573
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,200
and specialists in the
world, but they were unanimous.
574
00:29:33,333 --> 00:29:36,773
Julie's brain injury would
leave her in excruciating
575
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:40,170
pain for the
rest of her life.
576
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:42,970
JULIE SPOHN: I lived
at my lowest point.
577
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:47,470
Part of me was
terrified for my life.
578
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,770
NARRATOR: But then one
afternoon in 2008, Julie
579
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:55,370
sees a TV show featuring
a controversial faith healer.
580
00:29:55,500 --> 00:30:01,130
Immediately she knows something
phenomenal is happening.
581
00:30:01,266 --> 00:30:02,926
JULIE SPOHN: It was
just incredible.
582
00:30:03,066 --> 00:30:05,496
I just had a really
distinct peace come about
583
00:30:05,633 --> 00:30:11,273
me and I thought I really
want to go see this man.
584
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:15,030
NARRATOR: The faith healer
is Ohio-based
585
00:30:15,166 --> 00:30:18,796
anesthesiologist
Dr. Issam Nemeh.
586
00:30:18,934 --> 00:30:23,204
He claims to heal terminal
illnesses through prayer.
587
00:30:24,567 --> 00:30:27,497
Two months after seeing
him on TV, Julie decides
588
00:30:27,633 --> 00:30:29,103
to meet him.
589
00:30:30,367 --> 00:30:32,267
JULIE SPOHN: And when
Dr. Nemeh walked in
590
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,230
I started feeling a great
deal of warmth in my lower
591
00:30:35,367 --> 00:30:41,897
back and I'm automatically
thinking okay wait a minute.
592
00:30:42,033 --> 00:30:44,173
What can be
happening already?
593
00:30:46,166 --> 00:30:48,166
NARRATOR: Could the power
of Dr. Nemeh's prayer
594
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:51,030
really be having
an effect on Julie?
595
00:30:51,166 --> 00:30:52,996
GREG SPOHN: The life came
back into her eyes that
596
00:30:53,133 --> 00:30:55,903
had been gone for all
these years and I just saw
597
00:30:56,033 --> 00:31:01,303
a total transformation in
all aspects of muscle tone
598
00:31:01,433 --> 00:31:03,833
and colour and
warmth and just life.
599
00:31:03,967 --> 00:31:07,327
It was really amazing.
600
00:31:07,467 --> 00:31:10,297
NARRATOR: Incredibly,
Julie's pain is gone.
601
00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:12,503
The headaches disappear.
Her vision comes back.
602
00:31:12,633 --> 00:31:14,433
She can move
normally again.
603
00:31:14,567 --> 00:31:16,367
JULIE SPOHN: And I said I
don't think I need this
604
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:17,700
cane anymore and I
proceeded to walk right
605
00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:20,604
out to the car and get
in the car all by myself
606
00:31:20,734 --> 00:31:23,574
which I couldn't
do before.
607
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,430
It was obvious something
major had happened.
608
00:31:27,567 --> 00:31:28,997
NARRATOR: Her doctors
can't explain her
609
00:31:29,133 --> 00:31:34,103
recovery, but Julie
has no doubts.
610
00:31:34,233 --> 00:31:36,703
JULIE SPOHN: I definitely
feel like I received a miracle.
611
00:31:36,834 --> 00:31:39,874
There's no other
explanation for it.
612
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,500
NARRATOR: But Julie
is far from alone.
613
00:31:42,633 --> 00:31:46,233
Thousands claim that Nemeh's
prayers have healed them.
614
00:31:46,367 --> 00:31:48,967
SLABY: The lord took the pain
from me, relieved me of it.
615
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:52,530
DELORES: I had my own
personal miracle.
616
00:31:52,667 --> 00:31:55,597
NARRATOR: From cancer to
multiple sclerosis,
617
00:31:55,734 --> 00:31:57,974
it appears no disease,
ailment or condition
618
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:01,400
is too powerful for
Nemeh's healing powers.
619
00:32:01,533 --> 00:32:04,103
As word spreads, people
travel from all over the
620
00:32:04,233 --> 00:32:09,273
world to attend
his services.
621
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,130
But what's happening
to people like Julie?
622
00:32:12,266 --> 00:32:14,296
Are they really
experiencing miracles
623
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:16,703
at the hands of a
faith healer?
624
00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:18,604
Or is their recovery an
incredible demonstration
625
00:32:18,734 --> 00:32:21,834
of the power of the mind?
626
00:32:21,967 --> 00:32:23,067
GILBERT ROSS: Is
it psychological?
627
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Well of course it's
psychological.
628
00:32:33,233 --> 00:32:35,073
NARRATOR: An Ohio doctor
claims to cure terminal
629
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,900
diseases through prayer.
630
00:32:37,033 --> 00:32:40,533
Is he really a
miracle worker?
631
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,497
Gilbert Ross is the
medical director of the
632
00:32:42,633 --> 00:32:45,603
American Council on
Science and Health.
633
00:32:45,734 --> 00:32:47,674
Being a skeptic is
part of his job.
634
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,130
GILBERT ROSS: Merely
because the patient
635
00:32:50,266 --> 00:32:54,766
undergoes a uh miraculous
recovery after seeing a
636
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:58,100
faith healer in no way
means that the faith healer
637
00:32:58,233 --> 00:33:03,673
had any actual active role
in the, in the improvement.
638
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,370
NARRATOR: Ross has a more
rational explanation.
639
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:08,770
He believes the power of
healing comes from the
640
00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:14,070
extraordinary power
of the human mind.
641
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,300
GILBERT ROSS: The
successful faith healing
642
00:33:16,433 --> 00:33:20,103
is entirely the result
of the placebo effect.
643
00:33:20,233 --> 00:33:22,833
It's purely dependent upon
the patient's belief that
644
00:33:22,967 --> 00:33:25,667
the faith healing
is effective.
645
00:33:27,333 --> 00:33:28,673
NARRATOR: The placebo
effect is a recognized
646
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,870
medical phenomenon.
647
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,570
People who believe they are
getting treated get better.
648
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:39,570
Incredibly, in some
clinical trials,
649
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:43,770
placebos have proven more
effective than surgery.
650
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:45,730
GILBERT ROSS: If you give
the patient a jar of sugar
651
00:33:45,867 --> 00:33:48,827
pills and you encourage
them to believe that it's a,
652
00:33:48,967 --> 00:33:51,167
some sort of medication
that will help them,
653
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:54,770
you can provoke a placebo
response, which may have
654
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:56,930
some actual
beneficial effect.
655
00:33:57,066 --> 00:33:58,296
NARRATOR: Nobody knows
exactly how it is that
656
00:33:58,433 --> 00:34:00,733
placebos can be so
powerful, but it's
657
00:34:00,867 --> 00:34:04,127
accepted that the mind has
awesome healing abilities
658
00:34:04,266 --> 00:34:08,296
and that just believing in
a cure is a powerful medicine.
659
00:34:08,433 --> 00:34:10,503
GILBERT ROSS: The placebo
effect is real in that a
660
00:34:10,633 --> 00:34:13,103
certain percentage of
patients will feel better
661
00:34:13,233 --> 00:34:14,833
just from the
intervention.
662
00:34:14,967 --> 00:34:16,367
Is it psychological?
663
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,030
Well of course it's
psychological if you're
664
00:34:18,166 --> 00:34:19,896
not administering an
active ingredient but that
665
00:34:20,033 --> 00:34:23,473
doesn't mean that it's not
real and it, it doesn't
666
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,030
mean that it's not
biochemical or
667
00:34:25,166 --> 00:34:26,496
physiological either.
668
00:34:26,633 --> 00:34:28,003
NARRATOR: So can this
phenomena explain
669
00:34:28,133 --> 00:34:29,573
Dr. Nemeh's success?
670
00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:33,200
Could faith healing be a
placebo that cures only
671
00:34:33,333 --> 00:34:35,733
because people believe?
672
00:34:35,867 --> 00:34:38,467
GILBERT ROSS: Patients who
have strong beliefs and
673
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,030
spirituality including
religion would be more
674
00:34:42,166 --> 00:34:45,596
receptive to all sorts of
placebo effects including
675
00:34:45,734 --> 00:34:47,234
faith healing.
676
00:34:47,367 --> 00:34:49,997
It has to do with some
kind of ritual and the
677
00:34:50,133 --> 00:34:54,733
patient's sincere belief
that what they're going
678
00:34:54,867 --> 00:34:58,867
through with the faith
healer is going to help them.
679
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,270
NARRATOR: Can the success
stories of faith healers
680
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,700
like Dr. Nemeh be explained
by medical mind over matter?
681
00:35:06,834 --> 00:35:08,034
TRAPPERJACK KELLER: If
this was just placebo
682
00:35:08,166 --> 00:35:10,166
effect, if it was just
temporary you would find a
683
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:11,630
handful of stories.
684
00:35:11,767 --> 00:35:15,897
You don't. You have hundreds,
you have thousands.
685
00:35:16,033 --> 00:35:18,173
NARRATOR: Christian radio
host Trapperjack Keller
686
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:20,300
has no doubt that Dr.
Nemeh is performing
687
00:35:20,433 --> 00:35:25,073
bona fide miracles, something
he's witnessed first hand.
688
00:35:26,467 --> 00:35:27,967
TRAPPERJACK KELLER: I have
retinitis pigmentosa.
689
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:29,200
I'm legally blind.
690
00:35:29,333 --> 00:35:32,973
It's a degenerative
retinal disease but twice
691
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:35,200
in the eleven years
I've known Dr. Nemeh my
692
00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:36,973
vision's been
fully restored.
693
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,700
Both amazing dramatic
moments that certainly got
694
00:35:39,834 --> 00:35:41,274
my attention.
695
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,970
NARRATOR: But how can
someone perform these cures?
696
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:47,870
Where does Dr. Nemeh's
healing power come from?
697
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,970
TRAPPERJACK KELLER: He's
not doing the healing.
698
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:51,070
He takes no credit for it.
699
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,230
God does it all but he
gets to be the spectator.
700
00:35:54,367 --> 00:35:56,067
He gets to
watch it happen.
701
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,530
He's the connector.
702
00:35:58,667 --> 00:36:00,567
NARRATOR: So how
does it work?
703
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,270
What does Dr. Nemeh
do at his services?
704
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,200
TRAPPERJACK KELLER:
Something happens and it
705
00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:11,533
happens over and over again,
thousands of times over.
706
00:36:11,667 --> 00:36:13,667
I've seen people with MS,
I've seen people with
707
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,870
blindness, people who've
been told they're going to
708
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,400
die of cancer suddenly
literally in the blink of
709
00:36:18,533 --> 00:36:22,803
an eye the tumour is gone.
710
00:36:22,934 --> 00:36:25,534
NARRATOR: For Keller,
Dr. Nemeh's healings are
711
00:36:25,667 --> 00:36:29,767
part of a tradition as old
as Christianity itself.
712
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:31,030
TRAPPERJACK KELLER: The
healing stories are
713
00:36:31,166 --> 00:36:32,466
written about
in the Bible.
714
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,800
You know, you take it back
to Jesus time and then the
715
00:36:33,934 --> 00:36:38,034
apostles were healing and
you realize that it's
716
00:36:38,166 --> 00:36:39,766
always been there.
717
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:41,530
Absolutely.
718
00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:43,127
There are so many stories
about miraculous healings
719
00:36:43,266 --> 00:36:44,466
from the apostles.
720
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,900
Nothing's changed,
nothing's changed.
721
00:36:48,033 --> 00:36:49,933
NARRATOR: But
why Dr. Nemeh?
722
00:36:50,066 --> 00:36:55,596
Why is it that he has the
gift and not anyone else?
723
00:36:55,734 --> 00:36:56,874
TRAPPERJACK KELLER: I
believe Dr. Nemeh was put
724
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,530
on this earth to help
people find their way to
725
00:36:59,667 --> 00:37:05,227
God, and God gave him an
extra portion of faith and
726
00:37:05,367 --> 00:37:08,467
that faith is being
utilized beautifully.
727
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,730
Miracles are happening
to get your attention.
728
00:37:13,133 --> 00:37:15,073
WILLIAM SHATNER: This
is an incredible story.
729
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,170
But is it just
that, a story?
730
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:22,100
Do faith healers hold the
power to heal the sick or
731
00:37:22,233 --> 00:37:24,733
the dying in the
palm of their hands?
732
00:37:24,867 --> 00:37:28,197
Do they possess something
that science cannot
733
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:32,873
identify, something
beyond this world?
734
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,800
Or are they less
than angels?
735
00:37:37,734 --> 00:37:41,174
NARRATOR: Is Dr. Nemeh
performing modern day miracles?
736
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:44,530
Should we take faith
healers seriously?
737
00:37:44,667 --> 00:37:46,767
TERENCE HINES: Faith
healers are either knowing
738
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:49,570
or unconscious frauds.
739
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,270
NARRATOR: Thousands of
seriously ill people
740
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,600
report being cured at the
hands of a faith healer.
741
00:38:05,867 --> 00:38:08,867
Some say it's a miracle.
742
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,230
Others think it's all simply
the power of suggestion.
743
00:38:13,367 --> 00:38:14,967
TERENCE HINES: Faith
healers are either knowing
744
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:17,930
or unconscious frauds,
that they use various
745
00:38:18,066 --> 00:38:20,366
conscious tricks to lead
people to believe that
746
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:23,070
they've been healed when
they have not been healed.
747
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,830
NARRATOR: Terence Hines is
a professor of psychology
748
00:38:27,967 --> 00:38:30,867
at Pace University,
New York.
749
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,270
He takes a rational
approach to Dr. Nemeh's
750
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,500
success stories.
751
00:38:35,633 --> 00:38:36,973
TERENCE HINES: The
patient's own belief that
752
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:39,130
they're going to be cured
I think certainly plays a role.
753
00:38:39,266 --> 00:38:41,726
Getting people excited so
that they won't feel pain
754
00:38:41,867 --> 00:38:44,627
through perhaps endorphin
release is another trick.
755
00:38:44,767 --> 00:38:46,527
Endorphins are the body's
natural painkillers.
756
00:38:46,667 --> 00:38:49,227
They're released under,
under situations of high
757
00:38:49,367 --> 00:38:50,767
stress and arousal.
758
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,330
So the patient will in
fact believe, incorrectly,
759
00:38:53,467 --> 00:38:55,727
that they've been cured.
760
00:38:55,867 --> 00:38:58,397
NARRATOR: Hines has
spent time undercover
761
00:38:58,533 --> 00:39:00,703
investigating
faith healers.
762
00:39:00,834 --> 00:39:04,334
He found that in some cases
they relied on trickery.
763
00:39:04,467 --> 00:39:05,627
TERENCE HINES: We went
undercover at a faith
764
00:39:05,767 --> 00:39:08,267
healing meeting held in
Brooklyn, New York and
765
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,330
about halfway through the
healing session an elderly
766
00:39:11,467 --> 00:39:14,897
gentleman was, was brought
up onstage in a wheelchair.
767
00:39:15,033 --> 00:39:17,803
The faith healer laid his
hands on this gentleman in
768
00:39:17,934 --> 00:39:20,174
the wheelchair and
bade him walk and this
769
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:22,600
gentleman got out of his
wheelchair, walked up and
770
00:39:22,734 --> 00:39:24,504
down the stage to
great applause.
771
00:39:24,633 --> 00:39:26,333
It was a miracle.
772
00:39:26,467 --> 00:39:28,867
But, in fact, one of the
other members of the team
773
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,430
had noticed this gentleman
walk into the meeting hall
774
00:39:31,567 --> 00:39:35,067
under his own power
earlier in the performance.
775
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,700
As he neared the stage,
one of the faith healer's
776
00:39:37,834 --> 00:39:39,804
assistants walked up to
him and said sir, would
777
00:39:39,934 --> 00:39:41,474
you like a wheelchair?
778
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,970
So this gentleman sits
in the wheelchair.
779
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:45,700
Forty-five minutes later,
he finds himself brought
780
00:39:45,834 --> 00:39:47,674
up onstage and
asked to walk.
781
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,100
Well he can walk.
782
00:39:49,233 --> 00:39:51,973
That's how a miracle
is performed.
783
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,400
NARRATOR: But why would
some faith healers set out
784
00:39:54,533 --> 00:39:56,103
to dupe people?
785
00:39:56,233 --> 00:40:01,203
According to Hines,
it's a profitable game.
786
00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:02,703
TERENCE HINES: All faith
healers that I've come
787
00:40:02,834 --> 00:40:06,304
across don't charge admission
to their, to their services.
788
00:40:06,433 --> 00:40:07,633
It's free.
789
00:40:07,767 --> 00:40:09,927
Uh but at the, during the
service they certainly ask
790
00:40:10,066 --> 00:40:11,496
for donations.
791
00:40:11,633 --> 00:40:13,073
At the faith healing
meeting I went to, I
792
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,930
became a volunteer
usher and I was given a
793
00:40:15,066 --> 00:40:19,496
collection bucket, ye big,
and I thought, they're
794
00:40:19,633 --> 00:40:21,403
crazy if they're gonna
to get this thing filled
795
00:40:21,533 --> 00:40:22,903
with, with money.
796
00:40:23,033 --> 00:40:24,173
I was the crazy one.
797
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:26,530
I was pushing the fifty,
hundred dollar bills and
798
00:40:26,667 --> 00:40:28,527
twenty dollar bills
down into the bucket.
799
00:40:28,667 --> 00:40:31,267
I think I probably cleared
about 6,000 dollars.
800
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,830
Now there were
twelve ushers.
801
00:40:32,967 --> 00:40:36,167
Twelve times six is 72,000
dollars taken out of that
802
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:38,030
community in one night.
803
00:40:38,166 --> 00:40:41,126
I would call it a
license to steal.
804
00:40:41,266 --> 00:40:43,466
NARRATOR: Hines believes
it's easy to hoodwink
805
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,600
people into believing
they've been cured.
806
00:40:45,734 --> 00:40:48,174
To prove it, he set up a
demonstration of the power
807
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:50,370
of suggestion.
808
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:52,470
TERENCE HINES: So we have
an actor who will play a
809
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,130
doctor, a healer, and one
of the gimmicks that he
810
00:40:55,266 --> 00:40:57,266
has is a neurostimulator.
811
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,130
The patient will be told
this will reduce their pain.
812
00:41:02,266 --> 00:41:03,666
NARRATOR: In fact, the
neurostimulator is
813
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,070
a classic placebo - a
prop that does nothing.
814
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:10,073
TERENCE HINES: And what we
expect to find is that a number
815
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,070
of people, not everybody,
but a number of people
816
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,070
will say my God, my pain's
really gone, I can feel that.
817
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,130
NARRATOR: The first
volunteer reports a pain
818
00:41:19,266 --> 00:41:20,326
in her ankle.
819
00:41:20,467 --> 00:41:24,127
Our fake doctor assures
her he can help.
820
00:41:24,266 --> 00:41:25,366
DOCTOR: So I'm
gonna turn it on.
821
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:26,670
I want you to keep
breathing and when I turn
822
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,970
it on you're gonna feel
the energy coming out
823
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:30,630
through your head, okay?
824
00:41:30,767 --> 00:41:31,827
Here we go.
825
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,670
Do you feel the difference
that this is making already?
826
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,370
WOMAN: Yeah it
feels, it's relaxing.
827
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:41,870
DOCTOR: Phenomenal.
Look at that.
828
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,270
She's moving it
all ready, right?
829
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,700
WOMAN: Yeah.
830
00:41:44,834 --> 00:41:46,034
WOMAN: I didn't see how it
would work but actually
831
00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:48,066
like I had a pain like
right at the top of my
832
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,430
foot and now - I couldn't
even like bend it but now
833
00:41:50,567 --> 00:41:52,067
it seems to be better.
834
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,330
Like I can move it.
835
00:41:53,467 --> 00:41:56,667
It doesn't hurt
as bad anymore.
836
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,470
NARRATOR: Hines' theory
seems to prove correct as
837
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,530
volunteer after volunteer
are easily deceived by the
838
00:42:01,667 --> 00:42:04,327
fake doctor, so much so he
feels it might have been
839
00:42:04,467 --> 00:42:06,597
a profitable day.
840
00:42:06,734 --> 00:42:08,204
TERENCE HINES: The people
who, who reported a
841
00:42:08,333 --> 00:42:10,803
positive change probably
would've given a donation.
842
00:42:10,934 --> 00:42:13,174
Not a huge amount because
again they didn't come
843
00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:14,430
prepared for that.
844
00:42:14,567 --> 00:42:16,367
But yes, I suspect a
donation could've been
845
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,870
wrung from them.
846
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,330
NARRATOR: So are faith
healers conmen who prey on
847
00:42:23,467 --> 00:42:27,097
the weak and vulnerable?
848
00:42:27,233 --> 00:42:29,033
Or can healers like
Dr. Nemeh channel
849
00:42:29,166 --> 00:42:32,896
science-defying miracles
into ailing bodies?
850
00:42:33,033 --> 00:42:35,703
Or is it simply that our
own minds are so medically
851
00:42:35,834 --> 00:42:39,234
potent that people like
Julie can heal themselves
852
00:42:39,367 --> 00:42:41,997
with the power of belief?
853
00:42:42,133 --> 00:42:45,003
Weird or what?
854
00:42:45,133 --> 00:42:55,103
[♪]
855
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:00,430
NARRATOR: So there we
have it, three stories
856
00:43:00,567 --> 00:43:05,227
exploring the untapped
power of the human mind.
857
00:43:05,367 --> 00:43:08,967
A woman's paranormal
vision helps solve a murder.
858
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:13,700
Can horrific crimes be
solved by psychic powers?
859
00:43:13,834 --> 00:43:15,304
A Californian man can
remember nearly every
860
00:43:15,433 --> 00:43:18,433
moment from every
day of his life.
861
00:43:18,567 --> 00:43:22,897
Can we all one day
have total recall?
862
00:43:23,033 --> 00:43:24,973
And a faith healer cures
terminal illnesses
863
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:27,270
through prayer.
864
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,430
Is it a modern day
miracle, or an awesome
865
00:43:29,567 --> 00:43:33,027
demonstration of
mind over matter?
866
00:43:33,166 --> 00:43:35,366
You decide.
867
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:36,800
WILLIAM SHATNER: Join me
again next time for more
868
00:43:36,934 --> 00:43:39,374
stories that will
undoubtedly be
869
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:41,900
weird or what?
870
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,370
[♪]
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