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Bobby said it would be easier with your consent. 13 00:00:50,066 --> 00:00:52,066 You want to use a piano? 14 00:00:52,132 --> 00:00:54,666 - Yes. - In your opening argument? 15 00:00:54,732 --> 00:00:58,799 Yes. What I lack in lyric, I make up for in melody. 16 00:00:59,832 --> 00:01:01,899 He wants to do what? Well, he thinks he-- 17 00:01:01,966 --> 00:01:04,532 You will not turn my courtroom into theater, Mr. Heric. 18 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:09,032 No, Your Honor, listen, I know it sounds insane, which you probably all think I am anyway. 19 00:01:09,099 --> 00:01:12,832 Music sells! It's only a matter of time before lawyers use it in the courtroom. 20 00:01:12,899 --> 00:01:14,766 I just want to be the first. 21 00:01:14,832 --> 00:01:18,632 I'm willing to show you if it'll help demonstrate my intent. 22 00:01:18,699 --> 00:01:20,666 Go ahead. Ahh. 23 00:01:24,866 --> 00:01:26,766 ♪ [ Piano ] 24 00:01:26,832 --> 00:01:29,432 ♪ There's a dead guy Everybody thinks I killed him ♪ 25 00:01:29,499 --> 00:01:31,966 ♪ There's a dead guy In life he was a pest ♪ 26 00:01:32,032 --> 00:01:34,466 ♪ Took a knife right in the chest ♪ 27 00:01:34,532 --> 00:01:36,566 ♪ Everybody says it's me But it wasn't Can you see the dead guy ♪ 28 00:01:36,632 --> 00:01:39,332 ♪ He's the dead guy ♪ 29 00:01:41,399 --> 00:01:43,899 Something like that. I still have to work on the ending. 30 00:01:43,966 --> 00:01:46,532 There will be no piano. 31 00:01:57,999 --> 00:01:59,599 [ Line Ringing ] 32 00:02:06,899 --> 00:02:08,366 [ Cell Door Opens, Closes ] 33 00:02:14,266 --> 00:02:18,799 [ Sirens Wailing ] 34 00:02:34,698 --> 00:02:38,265 You know how rough it'll be. There's gonna be a lot of people in that courtroom. 35 00:02:38,332 --> 00:02:40,465 Everything is public record. 36 00:02:40,532 --> 00:02:45,498 I want to do this, Ellenor. I'm tired of pretending that it doesn't bother me. 37 00:02:45,565 --> 00:02:49,365 I'm tired of just walking away. You sure? 38 00:02:49,432 --> 00:02:52,965 I'm sure. Okay. 39 00:02:53,032 --> 00:02:54,965 10:00. 40 00:02:57,198 --> 00:02:59,398 I'll see you at the courthouse. 41 00:03:06,932 --> 00:03:10,365 You turned down 75,000? 42 00:03:10,432 --> 00:03:13,265 I'm a little concerned you're not seeing straight on this one. 43 00:03:13,332 --> 00:03:16,332 - I beg your pardon? - Well, the woman didn't suffer any damages. 44 00:03:16,398 --> 00:03:18,565 Seventy-five is not enough. Ellenor, 45 00:03:18,632 --> 00:03:21,432 you're a little hypersensitive when it comes to obesity-- let's face facts. 46 00:03:21,498 --> 00:03:25,498 Our client was ridiculed in front of a lot of people. My hypersensitivity-- 47 00:03:25,565 --> 00:03:27,398 Did you make the client aware of the offer? 48 00:03:27,465 --> 00:03:29,665 Of course I did. She rejected it. 49 00:03:29,732 --> 00:03:34,365 Did you tell her to reject it? 50 00:03:34,432 --> 00:03:38,598 I made my client aware of the offer. She elected to go to trial. 51 00:03:41,798 --> 00:03:44,365 I'm assigning Lindsay to second chair. 52 00:03:44,432 --> 00:03:47,298 I don't need Lindsay to second chair this case! 53 00:03:47,365 --> 00:03:51,765 I'm assigning Lindsay to second chair. 54 00:03:56,498 --> 00:03:58,498 Great. You have to stick me in the middle? 55 00:03:58,565 --> 00:04:00,765 I just need an objective eye. I don't think Ellenor-- 56 00:04:00,832 --> 00:04:02,632 I mean, you see the way she reacts to Joey Heric. 57 00:04:02,698 --> 00:04:06,898 Joey Heric calls her "hippo" and "Dumbo". I don't think she overreacts at all. 58 00:04:06,965 --> 00:04:09,965 It was a Dunk-The-Clown booth, Lindsay. 59 00:04:10,032 --> 00:04:13,065 All I ask is that you watchdog. She'll take it out on me. 60 00:04:13,132 --> 00:04:14,832 It's all me. She knows that. 61 00:04:17,898 --> 00:04:20,398 [ Door Opens ] 62 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:29,698 Members of the jury, the defendant has decided to be his own counsel. 63 00:04:29,765 --> 00:04:31,932 He has no legal training, and as such... 64 00:04:31,998 --> 00:04:35,132 I expect there could be procedural and evidentiary mistakes... 65 00:04:35,198 --> 00:04:37,898 made by the defendant in the course of this trial. 66 00:04:37,965 --> 00:04:41,198 You're not to attach any relevance to procedural mistakes. 67 00:04:41,265 --> 00:04:45,198 You're not to draw any bias on the question of the defendant's guilt or innocence... 68 00:04:45,265 --> 00:04:48,198 based on his performance as an attorney. 69 00:04:48,265 --> 00:04:52,498 Mr. Heric, I will instruct you again. 70 00:04:52,565 --> 00:04:54,998 If there is objection from the prosecution, 71 00:04:55,065 --> 00:04:58,365 you will wait for my ruling on that objection before you proceed. 72 00:04:58,432 --> 00:05:01,698 Are you clear, sir? Yes, Your Honor. 73 00:05:01,765 --> 00:05:04,998 Ms. Gamble, are you ready to open? 74 00:05:05,065 --> 00:05:07,032 Yes, Your Honor. 75 00:05:07,098 --> 00:05:09,065 We'll hear from you. 76 00:05:09,132 --> 00:05:11,065 I'm-- I'm sorry. 77 00:05:11,132 --> 00:05:15,065 But I suppose in all my-- my preparation and my, uh, nervousness, 78 00:05:15,132 --> 00:05:19,032 I'm embarrassed to say that I've, uh-- I've left something out. 79 00:05:19,098 --> 00:05:22,365 - What's that? - I have to pee. 80 00:05:22,432 --> 00:05:26,198 [ Crowd Chuckling ] 81 00:05:26,265 --> 00:05:29,698 The bailiff will take the defendant to the men's room. 82 00:05:29,765 --> 00:05:32,098 We'll adjourn for five minutes. 83 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:34,365 [ Crowd Chattering ] 84 00:05:34,432 --> 00:05:36,532 This is so embarrassing. 85 00:05:41,865 --> 00:05:45,732 This is how Marty Andleman looked when the police arrived. 86 00:05:45,798 --> 00:05:48,298 This is Marty Andleman's last expression. 87 00:05:48,365 --> 00:05:50,365 Dead. 88 00:05:50,432 --> 00:05:55,865 When the police showed up, the defendant was there with his three lawyers. 89 00:05:55,932 --> 00:06:00,798 The evidence will show that the defendant fatally stabbed Marty Andleman. 90 00:06:00,865 --> 00:06:04,732 The evidence will show that the defendant and the victim were lovers, 91 00:06:04,798 --> 00:06:06,698 that they were on the verge of a break-up... 92 00:06:06,765 --> 00:06:12,798 and that that breakup could potentially cost the defendant more than two million dollars. 93 00:06:12,865 --> 00:06:16,032 I won't keep you long, ladies and gentlemen. It's pretty simple. 94 00:06:16,098 --> 00:06:19,732 That man committed murder. 95 00:06:19,798 --> 00:06:22,198 The evidence will prove this quickly... 96 00:06:22,265 --> 00:06:24,398 and undeniably. 97 00:06:36,898 --> 00:06:40,265 Let's address the first question. 98 00:06:40,332 --> 00:06:44,632 What man would want to defend himself in a trial where his life was on the line? 99 00:06:44,698 --> 00:06:50,298 Ms. Gamble will say that the evidence proves undeniably that I committed murder. 100 00:06:50,365 --> 00:06:53,565 Only thing is... I didn't. 101 00:06:53,632 --> 00:06:56,998 Did I stab him, yes? 102 00:06:57,065 --> 00:06:58,965 But it was in self-defense. 103 00:06:59,032 --> 00:07:02,098 I'll tell you here now, though I don't think it has any probative value, 104 00:07:02,165 --> 00:07:06,532 my three lawyers at the scene, even they thought I did it. 105 00:07:06,598 --> 00:07:08,465 Objection. Sustained. 106 00:07:08,532 --> 00:07:11,032 Don't tell us what other people thought, Mr. Heric. 107 00:07:11,098 --> 00:07:15,898 Uh... I'm merely offering this to answer the question-- 108 00:07:15,965 --> 00:07:20,332 Why in God's name would he represent himself? 109 00:07:20,398 --> 00:07:25,432 Well, I do so because, as far as I know, I'm the only one convinced of my innocence. 110 00:07:25,498 --> 00:07:31,298 I'm not gonna hire an attorney to argue something to a jury that he doesn't believe himself. 111 00:07:31,365 --> 00:07:36,898 Yes, the evidence will show my prints on that weapon. 112 00:07:36,965 --> 00:07:39,198 But they will also show Marty Andleman's. 113 00:07:39,265 --> 00:07:43,332 Because what really happened that night, ladies and gentlemen, 114 00:07:43,398 --> 00:07:46,065 is that Marty Andleman tried to kill me. 115 00:07:47,798 --> 00:07:52,232 We were on the verge of a split-up, and he was emotionally upset. 116 00:07:52,298 --> 00:07:55,332 And he tried to kill me. 117 00:07:55,398 --> 00:07:57,465 I'm not gonna go into the facts now, 118 00:07:57,532 --> 00:07:59,365 but I will say the evidence will show... 119 00:07:59,432 --> 00:08:02,665 that he came at me with the very knife that I stabbed him with. 120 00:08:02,732 --> 00:08:04,965 That we wrestled with that knife. 121 00:08:05,032 --> 00:08:08,598 That both of our hands were on it, and in the process of that struggle, 122 00:08:08,665 --> 00:08:11,665 the knife went into him, not me. 123 00:08:13,698 --> 00:08:18,332 Did I run? No. Did I try to cover up evidence? No. 124 00:08:18,398 --> 00:08:22,132 Did I know how it would look? Of course. 125 00:08:22,198 --> 00:08:24,932 That's why I called my lawyers. 126 00:08:24,998 --> 00:08:28,565 Let's face it. Gay lovers, one's dead, we all know how it looks. 127 00:08:28,632 --> 00:08:32,232 But how it looks is not how it is. 128 00:08:32,298 --> 00:08:35,198 And what this comes down to is prosecution's gonna say, "Convict him. 129 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:40,832 You have to convict him. He was the only one who was there." 130 00:08:40,898 --> 00:08:45,965 And I will say, "Believe me. You have to believe me. 131 00:08:46,032 --> 00:08:50,798 Because I was the only one who was there." 132 00:09:09,331 --> 00:09:12,998 Hey! Baldy! Get a little lemon Pledge for that shine, would ya? 133 00:09:13,065 --> 00:09:16,731 Oh, oh, oh! Hey, look over there! [ Snorts ] 134 00:09:16,798 --> 00:09:19,831 Come on, pig! Oink so we know you're comin'! 135 00:09:19,898 --> 00:09:23,065 [ Gasps ] Oh, I'm terribly sorry. 136 00:09:23,131 --> 00:09:26,265 It's a cow. Moo! 137 00:09:26,331 --> 00:09:28,931 [ Laughing ] 138 00:09:28,998 --> 00:09:31,631 That's the whole act. 139 00:09:31,698 --> 00:09:36,798 The clown insults everybody who walks by to make them angry enough to want to play the game. 140 00:09:36,865 --> 00:09:39,065 To put down two dollars to get three baseballs... 141 00:09:39,131 --> 00:09:41,831 and try to dunk this obnoxious bastard into the water. 142 00:09:41,898 --> 00:09:43,865 We've all seen this. 143 00:09:43,931 --> 00:09:48,765 This kind of booth has been on the midways at state fairs and carnivals for 60 years. 144 00:09:48,831 --> 00:09:51,065 Did the clown insult the plaintiff? 145 00:09:51,131 --> 00:09:55,365 Yes. Did he do anything to her that he didn't do to anybody else? 146 00:09:55,431 --> 00:09:57,398 No. 147 00:09:57,465 --> 00:10:02,665 Did he or the carnival have any malicious intent toward this woman? 148 00:10:02,731 --> 00:10:04,998 Of course not. 149 00:10:05,065 --> 00:10:07,965 You call a person fat. You abuse her. 150 00:10:08,031 --> 00:10:11,231 You encourage a crowd of people to laugh at her physicality. 151 00:10:11,298 --> 00:10:16,398 And when she's hurt, you say no intent. Didn't mean it. 152 00:10:16,465 --> 00:10:18,831 The day he died? 153 00:10:18,898 --> 00:10:20,931 The very day. 154 00:10:20,998 --> 00:10:24,298 And what did Mr. Andleman say to you, Doctor? 155 00:10:24,365 --> 00:10:28,298 Basically, that he was very afraid for his life... 156 00:10:28,365 --> 00:10:32,465 - and that he thought Mr. Heric might try to kill him. - Did he say why? 157 00:10:32,531 --> 00:10:36,198 Well, he had been getting a lot of veiled threats over the last few weeks. 158 00:10:36,265 --> 00:10:39,931 - Veiled threats? - Yes. Mr. Heric would say things like, 159 00:10:39,998 --> 00:10:43,398 "How's your heart?" Uh, "Feeling any chest pains?" 160 00:10:43,465 --> 00:10:48,131 - You might want to object to this. - Shh. 161 00:10:48,198 --> 00:10:53,265 And why, specifically, did he feel in danger on this day, Dr. Timmi? 162 00:10:53,331 --> 00:10:56,898 Because he was about to break-up with Mr. Heric. 163 00:10:56,965 --> 00:10:59,365 And he said that he was a violent man... 164 00:10:59,431 --> 00:11:03,131 and moreover, he was not a man who would lose, 165 00:11:03,198 --> 00:11:05,698 who would let himself be bested. 166 00:11:05,765 --> 00:11:10,465 - [ Heric ] Marty Andleman said that he was afraid of me? - Yes, he did. 167 00:11:10,531 --> 00:11:14,231 - Afraid I would kill him? - Yes. 168 00:11:14,298 --> 00:11:18,131 Doctor, you were, uh, treating him for mental problems? 169 00:11:18,198 --> 00:11:23,631 I am not comfortable discussing my patient's problems in open court. 170 00:11:23,698 --> 00:11:26,565 You're not comfortable? What are you doing sitting in that chair? 171 00:11:26,631 --> 00:11:31,731 I'm sitting here because the prosecution sent me a summons. 172 00:11:31,798 --> 00:11:35,498 Yes, well, you will answer this man's questions. Patient privilege doesn't apply anymore. 173 00:11:35,565 --> 00:11:39,698 He suffered from paranoid personality disorder. You diagnosed it. 174 00:11:39,765 --> 00:11:44,431 - A slight paranoid disorder, yes. - I'm... no doctor, certainly. 175 00:11:44,498 --> 00:11:50,165 But according to the, uh, Diagnostic Manual for Mental Disorders, 176 00:11:50,231 --> 00:11:54,031 "a pervasive and unwarranted tendency... 177 00:11:54,098 --> 00:11:56,731 "to interpret the actions of people... 178 00:11:56,798 --> 00:12:00,365 as deliberately threatening." 179 00:12:00,431 --> 00:12:02,931 Is that a fair diagnosis of the, uh, disorder? 180 00:12:02,998 --> 00:12:08,031 - Yes. But-- - And Mr. Andleman suffered from this disorder, slight? 181 00:12:08,098 --> 00:12:10,731 Yes. He suffer from anything else? 182 00:12:10,798 --> 00:12:13,698 Clinical depression? Yes. 183 00:12:13,765 --> 00:12:16,165 He ever talk about suicide? 184 00:12:16,231 --> 00:12:18,998 Oh, are you now suggesting that he committed suicide, Mr. Heric? 185 00:12:19,065 --> 00:12:22,965 No, Doctor, I'm merely asking you did he ever contemplate suicide? 186 00:12:23,031 --> 00:12:24,998 Yes. 187 00:12:25,065 --> 00:12:27,698 Since you asked for my suggestion, is it a terrible leap then... 188 00:12:27,765 --> 00:12:32,698 to say that a person who would consider suicide might consider homicide? 189 00:12:32,765 --> 00:12:34,798 I don't think-- Uh, Doctor, my question is, 190 00:12:34,865 --> 00:12:40,631 is it entirely inconsistent that a person might be both suicidaland homicidal? 191 00:12:40,698 --> 00:12:43,165 No. 192 00:12:43,231 --> 00:12:45,198 One last question, then I'll let you go. 193 00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:49,365 I know that you loathe to talk about your patients. 194 00:12:49,431 --> 00:12:53,865 Did Marty Andleman manifest a tendency toward violence? 195 00:12:54,998 --> 00:12:57,231 Yes. 196 00:12:57,298 --> 00:12:59,898 Thank you. That's all. 197 00:13:09,731 --> 00:13:14,431 We were just walking through the fair grounds and suddenly he started in, into a microphone. 198 00:13:14,498 --> 00:13:16,498 The clown? Yes. 199 00:13:16,565 --> 00:13:21,365 -Do you remember what he said? -Things like, "I guess the Titanic didn't sink after all." 200 00:13:21,431 --> 00:13:24,798 He asked whether or not I had named the quintuplets... 201 00:13:24,865 --> 00:13:27,665 or was I just waiting for them to be born first. 202 00:13:27,731 --> 00:13:30,731 And he called me a bunch of things. 203 00:13:30,798 --> 00:13:34,431 - Do you remember the things that he called you? - Cow. 204 00:13:34,498 --> 00:13:38,131 Pig. Rhode Island. 205 00:13:38,198 --> 00:13:40,698 [ Chuckles ] 206 00:13:40,765 --> 00:13:42,998 And then what did you do? 207 00:13:43,065 --> 00:13:46,931 I tried to smile and pretend I thought it was funny. 208 00:13:46,998 --> 00:13:50,865 Everybody else was laughing, so I just kept walking. 209 00:13:50,931 --> 00:13:53,031 Smiling. You walked away? 210 00:13:53,098 --> 00:13:58,765 Yes. And he said, "When she turns a cheek, she really turns a cheek." 211 00:13:58,831 --> 00:14:03,098 - Marsha, were you alone? - No, I was with a man. 212 00:14:03,165 --> 00:14:07,831 I was on a first date. It was very embarrassing for him too. 213 00:14:07,898 --> 00:14:09,998 And then what happened? 214 00:14:10,065 --> 00:14:12,031 Well, he told me it was nothin' to get upset about. 215 00:14:12,098 --> 00:14:15,665 And I tried to pretend it didn't bother me. 216 00:14:15,731 --> 00:14:21,131 But... after the date, I went home and I cried. 217 00:14:21,198 --> 00:14:22,931 And your date? 218 00:14:24,631 --> 00:14:26,598 I never saw him again. 219 00:14:26,665 --> 00:14:29,131 Marsha, here's the question. 220 00:14:30,465 --> 00:14:33,665 Why choose to relive this again in a courtroom? 221 00:14:33,731 --> 00:14:38,965 I went to a state fair on a Sunday afternoon. 222 00:14:39,031 --> 00:14:41,231 I was minding my own business. 223 00:14:41,298 --> 00:14:44,231 And for the entertainment of others, a carnival employee... 224 00:14:44,298 --> 00:14:48,298 started insulting my physical appearance for profit. 225 00:14:48,365 --> 00:14:51,465 I am not ashamed of taking that seriously. 226 00:14:51,531 --> 00:14:54,765 When I walk down a street... 227 00:14:54,831 --> 00:14:58,831 and people yell things at me, 228 00:14:58,898 --> 00:15:02,198 the shame should not be mine. 229 00:15:02,265 --> 00:15:04,665 It should be theirs. 230 00:15:08,365 --> 00:15:12,565 From the entry, the knife was plunged in. 231 00:15:12,631 --> 00:15:16,698 It had to have had a certain amount of velocity to it, there was no mashing of the skin. 232 00:15:16,765 --> 00:15:18,798 By velocity, you mean? 233 00:15:18,865 --> 00:15:24,265 Like this. It couldn't have happened in a struggle the way he says. 234 00:15:24,331 --> 00:15:26,531 Are you sure? 235 00:15:26,598 --> 00:15:31,098 He describes a situation in which both had their hands on it and were pushing. 236 00:15:31,165 --> 00:15:35,798 I'm sorry, but you don't just push a knife through a sternum. 237 00:15:35,865 --> 00:15:37,798 This was a massive blow. 238 00:15:37,865 --> 00:15:40,165 It was no struggle. 239 00:15:40,231 --> 00:15:43,031 Do you have an opinion as to how Mr. Andleman was stabbed? 240 00:15:43,098 --> 00:15:45,865 I do, based on the trajectory of the wound. 241 00:15:45,931 --> 00:15:48,698 May I show you? Of course. 242 00:15:48,765 --> 00:15:51,398 The victim was sitting. 243 00:15:51,465 --> 00:15:55,465 The killer came up from behind him and over the top. 244 00:15:55,531 --> 00:15:59,698 He drove the knife in... like this. 245 00:15:59,765 --> 00:16:03,731 We're talking about a lot of force here. 246 00:16:03,798 --> 00:16:08,565 Now the reason I have a problem, Doctor, is that you're completely wrong. 247 00:16:08,631 --> 00:16:10,565 And it leads me to ask... 248 00:16:10,631 --> 00:16:13,398 how many other people have been falsely convicted by your ridiculous theories? 249 00:16:13,465 --> 00:16:15,731 Objection. Sustained. 250 00:16:15,798 --> 00:16:20,365 Okay, look, I'm not going to debate you on forensics, trajectory, velocity equations, 251 00:16:20,431 --> 00:16:23,298 because the truth is I know nothing about any of it. 252 00:16:23,365 --> 00:16:25,931 But I certainly do know that Marty Andleman didn't die the way you say he did. 253 00:16:25,998 --> 00:16:28,365 - Objection. - Sustained. 254 00:16:28,431 --> 00:16:32,198 You're not allowed to give arguments at this point, Mr. Heric. Just ask questions. 255 00:16:32,265 --> 00:16:36,898 Sir, in 1987, did you testify against a man named Alex Beauregard? 256 00:16:38,798 --> 00:16:42,398 - Yes. - Your testimony went to trajectory, angle of wound-- 257 00:16:42,465 --> 00:16:45,331 - It was another stabbing death, right? - Yes, I believe that's correct. 258 00:16:45,398 --> 00:16:48,131 Mr. Beauregard was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison. 259 00:16:48,198 --> 00:16:52,998 - Yes. - Two years later, somebody else confessed to the crime. 260 00:16:53,065 --> 00:16:55,498 The conviction was overturned and Mr. Beauregard was released. Did you know that? 261 00:16:55,565 --> 00:16:57,665 Yes. 262 00:16:57,731 --> 00:17:01,231 And your analysis of wound trajectory turned out to be wrong in that case, didn't it? 263 00:17:01,298 --> 00:17:03,298 Yes. 264 00:17:03,365 --> 00:17:06,131 A crime you essentially convicted him of with your testimony. 265 00:17:06,198 --> 00:17:10,431 - So mistakes do happen. - I'm not mistaken here, Mr. Heric. 266 00:17:10,498 --> 00:17:13,265 Mistakes do happen. Yes or no? 267 00:17:15,898 --> 00:17:19,398 - Yes. - Thank you. 268 00:17:19,465 --> 00:17:23,365 Oh, one last question. Did you ever apologize to Mr. Beauregard? 269 00:17:23,431 --> 00:17:26,031 No. 270 00:17:26,098 --> 00:17:28,865 Gee. 271 00:17:38,598 --> 00:17:40,498 100,000, that's as high as-- No. 272 00:17:40,565 --> 00:17:43,465 Look, bring it up to 200,000. I'll try to sell it. 200,000? 273 00:17:43,531 --> 00:17:46,598 Look, you saw the faces on the jury. They're not-- The jury hasn't heard our side. 274 00:17:46,665 --> 00:17:49,365 Fine. Well, tell 'em your side, but 100,000's not enough. We'll give you a quick answer. 275 00:17:49,431 --> 00:17:53,498 I gave him the answer. We have to take the offer to the client. 276 00:17:53,565 --> 00:17:56,265 We'll get right back to you. Thanks. 277 00:17:57,531 --> 00:17:59,665 Don't you undermine me, Lindsay. 278 00:17:59,731 --> 00:18:03,298 You can't reject an offer without making the client aware of it, Ellenor. 279 00:18:08,031 --> 00:18:10,465 We'll offer manslaughter, eight years. 280 00:18:10,531 --> 00:18:13,531 What? 281 00:18:13,598 --> 00:18:17,898 Manslaughter. It's a moral victory. But it's not a victory. 282 00:18:17,965 --> 00:18:19,798 Well, it's as good as it's gonna get. 283 00:18:19,865 --> 00:18:22,731 It's as good as you'll offer. I'll get better. 284 00:18:22,798 --> 00:18:25,398 Manslaughter. Yes or no? 285 00:18:25,465 --> 00:18:28,465 Gee. Decisions. Decisions. No. 286 00:18:28,531 --> 00:18:30,398 [ Bobby ] Joey! I said no. 287 00:18:30,465 --> 00:18:32,398 Oh, geez. 288 00:18:36,998 --> 00:18:39,398 Are you crazy? They're offering eight years. 289 00:18:39,465 --> 00:18:42,998 That's because they know they've lost. They still got a great case. 290 00:18:43,065 --> 00:18:45,231 And if you weren't in favor of me going off to prison, 291 00:18:45,298 --> 00:18:48,498 I might actually attach some credibility to your insipid little opinions. 292 00:18:48,565 --> 00:18:51,465 Hey, you can do what you want to do, but you committed cold-blooded murder, 293 00:18:51,531 --> 00:18:53,965 and you get an offer of manslaughter? 294 00:18:54,031 --> 00:18:57,398 As sick as you are, you can't be that stupid. 295 00:18:57,465 --> 00:18:59,898 Stupid? 296 00:18:59,965 --> 00:19:02,998 Stupid would be listening to you! 297 00:19:03,065 --> 00:19:05,831 Touch me again and I will hurt you. 298 00:19:05,898 --> 00:19:08,931 You think I can't or I won't, 299 00:19:08,998 --> 00:19:11,865 then, yeah, you are stupid! 300 00:19:18,372 --> 00:19:20,239 I don't want her on the case. Hold on-- 301 00:19:20,306 --> 00:19:23,306 No! I don't want her! Fine. My malpractice premium is high enough already. 302 00:19:23,372 --> 00:19:27,639 -Look, Lindsay, part of negotiating a good settlement-- -Look, don't bully me, Ellenor. 303 00:19:27,706 --> 00:19:29,472 You know I'm right, so don't even try-- That's enough! 304 00:19:29,539 --> 00:19:31,572 You know what? You don't get it. 305 00:19:31,639 --> 00:19:33,706 That fat people face a discrimination, you just don't get it, 306 00:19:33,772 --> 00:19:37,839 and that is exactly why Marsha is bringing this case, so people like you will get it. 307 00:19:37,906 --> 00:19:40,006 - I'm a fat bigot now? - I didn't say that. 308 00:19:40,072 --> 00:19:43,506 -Say it if you think it. -But while we're launching accusations of hypersensitivity. 309 00:19:43,572 --> 00:19:45,372 Oh, please. Come on. We're all on the same side here. 310 00:19:45,439 --> 00:19:48,172 You're in the middle of a trial. Work it out. 311 00:19:48,239 --> 00:19:51,372 Both of you! [ Door Opens, Closes ] 312 00:19:51,439 --> 00:19:54,139 Eugene. I need you with me this morning too. Can you come? 313 00:19:54,206 --> 00:19:56,706 It's just for the day. Sure. 314 00:19:58,106 --> 00:20:00,972 And according to Mr. Andleman's life insurance policy, 315 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:03,439 who would stand to inherit in the event of his death? 316 00:20:03,506 --> 00:20:06,206 Uh, the defendant. Joey Heric. 317 00:20:06,272 --> 00:20:08,639 And how much would he stand to inherit, sir? 318 00:20:08,706 --> 00:20:11,806 $2.3 million. 319 00:20:11,872 --> 00:20:13,806 Thank you. 320 00:20:14,939 --> 00:20:16,839 [ Judge ] Mr. Heric? 321 00:20:16,906 --> 00:20:18,839 No questions, Your Honor. 322 00:20:18,906 --> 00:20:20,972 You may step down. 323 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:22,939 Ms. Gamble? 324 00:20:25,706 --> 00:20:28,739 Your Honor, the Commonwealth calls Joey Heric. 325 00:20:28,806 --> 00:20:32,672 - [ Crowd Murmuring ] - Can she do that? 326 00:20:34,306 --> 00:20:36,572 Uh, Your Honor, could we adjourn to chambers? 327 00:20:41,339 --> 00:20:46,039 I have a Fifth Amendment right not to testify. She can't call me as a witness. 328 00:20:46,106 --> 00:20:50,872 - He has testified, Your Honor, he therefore waived his right. - What are you talking about? 329 00:20:50,939 --> 00:20:56,072 Mr. Heric put facts into evidence in his opening. He told his side of the story. 330 00:20:56,139 --> 00:20:59,206 I'm entitled, therefore, to cross-examine his version of the events. 331 00:20:59,272 --> 00:21:02,172 Opening argument is not evidence. I know that. I'm not even a lawyer. 332 00:21:02,239 --> 00:21:06,339 But he used it to get in evidence. He testified in the narrative. 333 00:21:06,406 --> 00:21:08,672 Even so, I'm not inclined to punish him for a mistake, 334 00:21:08,739 --> 00:21:12,606 - not when it comes to his self-incrimination. - A mistake? 335 00:21:12,672 --> 00:21:17,139 Come on. Do we really think he didn't know exactly what he was doing? 336 00:21:17,206 --> 00:21:19,539 He told his side of the story. 337 00:21:19,606 --> 00:21:23,872 And by not taking the stand, he figured to shield himself from cross-examination. 338 00:21:23,939 --> 00:21:26,172 That's the whole reason he chose to represent himself. 339 00:21:26,239 --> 00:21:29,539 So he could testify and not be subject to cross-examination. 340 00:21:29,606 --> 00:21:32,372 You give me way too much credit. 341 00:21:32,439 --> 00:21:36,839 Your Honor, he said in his opening that the evidencewill show it was self-defense. 342 00:21:36,906 --> 00:21:40,272 The evidence will show that Marty Andleman came at him. 343 00:21:40,339 --> 00:21:42,172 Where's that evidence gonna come from? 344 00:21:42,239 --> 00:21:45,739 Mr. Heric, do you plan to call witnesses to put those facts in? 345 00:21:45,806 --> 00:21:48,339 How can I call witnesses? I was the only one there. 346 00:21:48,406 --> 00:21:51,272 Exactly. Making you the only witness. 347 00:21:52,739 --> 00:21:55,572 I think I agree with the district attorney. 348 00:21:55,639 --> 00:21:58,739 You've put testimony into this trial. She can cross-examine. 349 00:21:58,806 --> 00:22:01,072 Your Honor-- That's what you get, Mr. Heric, 350 00:22:01,139 --> 00:22:02,972 when you choose to defend yourself. 351 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:05,472 You've put yourself in a hole. You'll have to dig yourself out. 352 00:22:05,539 --> 00:22:09,139 Fine. 353 00:22:09,206 --> 00:22:13,672 Helen, you come right at me. 354 00:22:20,706 --> 00:22:25,339 I won't deny the clown is mean-spirited. 355 00:22:25,406 --> 00:22:29,039 The truth is, that's why that booth draws the crowds, 356 00:22:29,106 --> 00:22:31,339 because the clown is so outrageous. 357 00:22:31,406 --> 00:22:33,739 Does the carnival impose any limitations? 358 00:22:33,806 --> 00:22:37,039 Certainly. No, uh, obscene language. 359 00:22:37,106 --> 00:22:40,539 No picking on people with disabilities, no picking on kids. 360 00:22:40,606 --> 00:22:43,006 Obviously, no racial or religious remarks. 361 00:22:43,072 --> 00:22:46,906 - But as to general physicality? - Yes, it's really all about that. 362 00:22:46,972 --> 00:22:52,172 The big nose, the bald head, the bad figure, the bad clothing. 363 00:22:52,239 --> 00:22:55,139 His job is to antagonize the people... 364 00:22:55,206 --> 00:22:59,139 so that they become angry enough that they want to dunk him. 365 00:22:59,206 --> 00:23:02,906 - So you do draw limitations on what your clowns can say? - Yes. 366 00:23:02,972 --> 00:23:06,906 And if my colleague were to pass by, your clown wouldn't remark on his race? 367 00:23:06,972 --> 00:23:10,772 No. He would probably go right for that big bald head. 368 00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:12,939 [ Ellenor ] Come on. I've been to a few comedy clubs. 369 00:23:13,006 --> 00:23:16,372 I've heard some pretty hard-biting racist humor getting big laughs. 370 00:23:16,439 --> 00:23:19,306 I mean, if it's funny. We wouldn't allow that. 371 00:23:19,372 --> 00:23:22,406 But why? Everybody knows it's just a clown act. What's the big deal? 372 00:23:22,472 --> 00:23:24,939 I see nothing funny in racism. 373 00:23:25,006 --> 00:23:28,606 And I don't tolerate it in any form at any one of my carnivals. 374 00:23:28,672 --> 00:23:31,172 So you do see something funny in fat people. 375 00:23:31,239 --> 00:23:34,239 You'll tolerate making fun of fat people. 376 00:23:34,306 --> 00:23:37,439 Yes? Yes. 377 00:23:37,506 --> 00:23:40,106 And, Mr. Johnson, your tolerance of this kind of abuse, 378 00:23:40,172 --> 00:23:43,972 is it that you're unaware of the hurt you cause to people like my client? 379 00:23:44,039 --> 00:23:47,572 Or is it that you just disregard that kind of pain? 380 00:23:47,639 --> 00:23:50,139 We never meant to hurt your client, Ms. Frutt. 381 00:23:50,206 --> 00:23:52,139 Are you aware that you did hurt her? 382 00:23:52,206 --> 00:23:53,972 Obviously, we're aware now. 383 00:23:54,039 --> 00:23:56,739 And since you became aware of it, that these words hurt, 384 00:23:56,806 --> 00:24:00,372 have you instructed your clowns to stop ridiculing fat people? 385 00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:03,572 No. 386 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:10,839 Her whole plan will be to get to that other murder. The judge suppressed that. 387 00:24:10,906 --> 00:24:14,672 But if she somehow gets you to open a door on it, she can get it admitted. 388 00:24:14,739 --> 00:24:16,506 What do you mean "open the door"? 389 00:24:16,572 --> 00:24:19,939 Well, she'll ask, "What do you mean Marty had a temper?" 390 00:24:20,006 --> 00:24:23,072 She wants you to answer that he threatened to kill Peter Fineman. 391 00:24:23,139 --> 00:24:26,806 If you give any inkling of anything to do with that other case, 392 00:24:26,872 --> 00:24:29,372 it'll get in. 393 00:24:29,439 --> 00:24:31,406 The jury will learn that you killed somebody else. 394 00:24:31,472 --> 00:24:33,539 And if that happens, you can kiss your ass good-bye, Joey. 395 00:24:35,839 --> 00:24:39,772 [ Sighs ] Okay. 396 00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:42,739 Joey. 397 00:24:42,806 --> 00:24:46,272 She is very good. 398 00:24:49,406 --> 00:24:51,572 Any evidence that Mr. Andleman could be homicidal? 399 00:24:51,639 --> 00:24:54,272 You heard his own psychiatrist say so. 400 00:24:54,339 --> 00:24:56,206 Yes, well, any other evidence? 401 00:24:56,272 --> 00:24:58,606 Did you ever see such homicidal tendencies? 402 00:24:58,672 --> 00:25:00,572 Yes. When? 403 00:25:00,639 --> 00:25:03,739 - The night he tried to kill me. - The night you killed him? 404 00:25:03,806 --> 00:25:05,439 In self-defense. 405 00:25:05,506 --> 00:25:07,706 Did he ever threaten to kill you before? No. 406 00:25:07,772 --> 00:25:10,406 Did he ever threaten to kill anybody else? 407 00:25:10,472 --> 00:25:13,439 I believe for the purpose of this trial, the judge has instructed us not to talk... 408 00:25:13,506 --> 00:25:19,006 about any other occasion where he may have or may have not threatened to kill anybody else. 409 00:25:19,072 --> 00:25:20,806 That's right. 410 00:25:20,872 --> 00:25:24,639 You say he came at you with the knife? Yes. 411 00:25:24,706 --> 00:25:27,306 - And you thought he would kill you. - Yes. 412 00:25:27,372 --> 00:25:30,439 So you decided to kill him instead. Well-- 413 00:25:30,506 --> 00:25:33,172 - You didn't first try to get the knife away? - Yes, I did, but I couldn't. 414 00:25:33,239 --> 00:25:35,072 And you struggled. Yes. 415 00:25:35,139 --> 00:25:39,106 Tell me, at what point during the struggle did you say to yourself, 416 00:25:39,172 --> 00:25:41,172 "I'm going to kill him?" 417 00:25:41,239 --> 00:25:43,639 I never decided to kill him, Ms. Gamble. 418 00:25:43,706 --> 00:25:46,906 My intent was for him not to kill me. 419 00:25:46,972 --> 00:25:49,906 -Yes, and to accomplish that you decided you would kill him. -That isn't so. 420 00:25:49,972 --> 00:25:52,572 Mr. Heric, you said yourself you intended to kill him. 421 00:25:52,639 --> 00:25:54,572 I never said any such thing. You grabbed the knife. 422 00:25:54,639 --> 00:25:57,006 I said I killed him in self-defense. 423 00:25:57,072 --> 00:26:00,472 Yes, and that is a deliberate act. You deliberately killed him. 424 00:26:00,539 --> 00:26:02,806 It was a struggle. Are you listening? 425 00:26:02,872 --> 00:26:04,939 Mr. Heric, you can't have it both ways. 426 00:26:05,006 --> 00:26:09,106 Were you trying to wrestle the knife away or were you trying to kill him? 427 00:26:09,172 --> 00:26:11,672 I was trying to wrestle the knife away when it went into him. 428 00:26:11,739 --> 00:26:14,672 - You thrust it into him. - It went into him during the struggle. 429 00:26:14,739 --> 00:26:18,339 - It went in by accident? - Yes. I never intended to kill him. 430 00:26:18,406 --> 00:26:20,372 How many ways can I say it? 431 00:26:20,439 --> 00:26:22,939 You said it perfectly. 432 00:26:30,806 --> 00:26:34,539 Have you ever stabbed and killed anybody else, Mr. Heric? 433 00:26:36,006 --> 00:26:40,139 Did you not hear my question, Mr. Heric? Your Honor-- 434 00:26:40,206 --> 00:26:44,339 Your Honor, you ruled if he argued accident, the other case would be admissible. 435 00:26:44,406 --> 00:26:47,539 - Well, he just argued accident. - Objection. 436 00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:50,906 - I'll allow it. - Now wait a second! - Mr. Donnell, sit down. 437 00:26:50,972 --> 00:26:54,206 Have you ever killed anybody else by stabbing, Mr. Heric? 438 00:26:54,272 --> 00:26:59,239 - That's suppressed. Your Honor, that's suppressed. - Not anymore. 439 00:26:59,306 --> 00:27:02,239 Did you kill a former lover by stabbing him in the chest with a knife? 440 00:27:02,306 --> 00:27:04,472 Yes or no, sir? 441 00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:07,972 All right. Well, I'll just keep asking until I get an answer. 442 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:12,972 Did you kill a former lover by stabbing him to his death with a kitchen knife? 443 00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,472 - Did you kill a former lover-- - I plead the Fifth Amendment. 444 00:27:15,539 --> 00:27:19,706 Oh, you can't do that, sir. See, you were already granted immunity on that, 445 00:27:19,772 --> 00:27:22,872 so the Fifth Amendment isn't available to you now. 446 00:27:22,939 --> 00:27:25,039 Let me ask again. 447 00:27:25,106 --> 00:27:29,972 Did you kill City Councilman Peter Fineman by stabbing him to his death with a kitchen knife? 448 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:34,706 - Yes or no? Did you kill-- - I don't remember. 449 00:27:34,772 --> 00:27:37,672 You don't remember? 450 00:27:39,306 --> 00:27:41,939 Did you testify under oath that you killed him? 451 00:27:46,139 --> 00:27:48,272 Yes. 452 00:27:49,806 --> 00:27:52,272 Your Honor, I have no more questions. 453 00:28:01,739 --> 00:28:04,306 [ Judge ] Mr. Heric, you may step down. 454 00:28:07,472 --> 00:28:10,239 Mr. Heric, you may step down. 455 00:28:10,306 --> 00:28:13,206 I think I should tell now. 456 00:28:13,272 --> 00:28:16,206 - Could we adjourn, please? - I want to tell! 457 00:28:16,272 --> 00:28:18,206 Your Honor? 458 00:28:18,272 --> 00:28:22,406 Mr. Heric, do you know where you are? 459 00:28:22,472 --> 00:28:24,906 I'm in deep trouble. 460 00:28:27,306 --> 00:28:29,406 I want to tell. 461 00:28:29,472 --> 00:28:34,406 I did kill Peter Fineman. 462 00:28:34,472 --> 00:28:36,839 But I didn't kill Marty. 463 00:28:38,072 --> 00:28:39,972 He killed himself. 464 00:28:41,539 --> 00:28:44,272 [ Judge ] I beg your pardon? 465 00:28:44,339 --> 00:28:46,906 He framed me. 466 00:28:46,972 --> 00:28:50,972 That would be going to some length to get somebody in trouble, don't you think? 467 00:28:52,906 --> 00:28:57,772 We were breaking up. But I was leaving him. 468 00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:01,572 He picked up the kitchen knife and he started laughing. 469 00:29:02,806 --> 00:29:05,272 "They're all gonna think you did it, Joey. 470 00:29:06,339 --> 00:29:08,239 "You killed Peter this way. 471 00:29:08,306 --> 00:29:12,272 "And when they find me in your apartment with a knife in my chest, 472 00:29:12,339 --> 00:29:15,872 they'll all blame you." 473 00:29:15,939 --> 00:29:18,572 And he laughed some more. 474 00:29:18,639 --> 00:29:22,206 "You'll never get the insurance money... 475 00:29:22,272 --> 00:29:26,239 "because they'll all think you did it, and you'll be in jail. 476 00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:30,206 And even if they learn the truth, my insurance doesn't cover suicide." 477 00:29:30,272 --> 00:29:32,472 And he smiled at me. 478 00:29:35,239 --> 00:29:39,372 And he said, "I finally got you, Joey. 479 00:29:39,439 --> 00:29:43,739 I bested you. I win. You lose." 480 00:29:46,872 --> 00:29:51,939 And with that, he thrust the knife into his chest. 481 00:29:56,006 --> 00:30:00,606 Then why-- why did you claim it was self-defense? 482 00:30:00,672 --> 00:30:02,572 Nobody beats me. 483 00:30:04,739 --> 00:30:07,839 I wasn't going to let him win. 484 00:30:09,672 --> 00:30:13,572 Self-defense, I still get the money. 485 00:30:13,639 --> 00:30:17,939 But even if I didn't, I wasn't gonna let you win. 486 00:30:23,639 --> 00:30:26,939 Y-Your Honor, we need to call one more witness. 487 00:30:27,006 --> 00:30:29,906 I couldn't let him win. 488 00:30:37,756 --> 00:30:42,656 When you form a conclusion about people based on appearance, 489 00:30:42,722 --> 00:30:46,256 it's bigotry, it's prejudice. 490 00:30:46,322 --> 00:30:49,189 And as politically correct as this country has become, 491 00:30:49,256 --> 00:30:51,456 the prejudice against fat people, 492 00:30:51,522 --> 00:30:54,322 well, that one's not so bad, is it? 493 00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:56,789 I mean, we're to blame. It's our own fault. 494 00:30:56,856 --> 00:31:01,289 We must eat too much, we're lazy, we're not disciplined, we're sloppy. 495 00:31:01,356 --> 00:31:03,356 You know, I was at a movie theater once, 496 00:31:03,422 --> 00:31:06,956 and they showed a fat person at the beach in a bathing suit. 497 00:31:07,022 --> 00:31:10,256 And the audience openly cringed and groaned. 498 00:31:10,322 --> 00:31:15,189 And nobody, nobody was ashamed to do so. 499 00:31:15,256 --> 00:31:19,356 You see, every billboard, every fashion magazine... 500 00:31:19,422 --> 00:31:21,789 tells us to be ashamed of our bodies. 501 00:31:21,856 --> 00:31:24,856 Be thin. Be thin. 502 00:31:24,922 --> 00:31:28,189 Would my client like to be thinner? I don't know. 503 00:31:28,256 --> 00:31:30,122 I can tell you I certainly would. 504 00:31:30,189 --> 00:31:35,622 Does she struggle with her weight? I don't know. I can tell you I do. 505 00:31:35,689 --> 00:31:41,389 But does that mean we should be ashamed of our bodies? Absolutely not. 506 00:31:41,456 --> 00:31:45,856 I don't expect the bigotry to end with the wave of a wand. 507 00:31:45,922 --> 00:31:48,189 It has been going on for so long. 508 00:31:48,256 --> 00:31:52,156 It's gonna take a long time to stop it. 509 00:31:52,222 --> 00:31:56,522 But if we are to stop it, we need a beginning. 510 00:31:56,589 --> 00:31:59,122 For somebody, one jury, 511 00:31:59,189 --> 00:32:03,556 to say that it is prejudice, and that it is not okay. 512 00:32:06,022 --> 00:32:10,589 This is a very, very brave woman. 513 00:32:10,656 --> 00:32:13,156 I so admire her. 514 00:32:15,756 --> 00:32:20,456 And I promise you it was not easy for her to come into this courtroom-- 515 00:32:26,489 --> 00:32:29,389 Please help her to give the courage to other fat people... 516 00:32:29,456 --> 00:32:33,689 to stand up and say "enough." 517 00:32:34,989 --> 00:32:37,289 Enough. 518 00:32:40,722 --> 00:32:44,189 Well, we seem to sue over everything these days, don't we? 519 00:32:44,256 --> 00:32:47,722 Wrongful termination. Sexual harassment. 520 00:32:47,789 --> 00:32:52,056 Now it's just insults. 521 00:32:52,122 --> 00:32:55,589 What about the Little League game where the third baseman taunts the batter? 522 00:32:55,656 --> 00:32:58,756 And what about the movie that shows the fat woman on the beach? 523 00:32:58,822 --> 00:33:02,922 What about the movies and the-- and the TV shows that ridicule someone's appearance? 524 00:33:02,989 --> 00:33:04,956 What are we gonna do? 525 00:33:05,022 --> 00:33:07,889 Shut them down? 526 00:33:07,956 --> 00:33:12,056 The cattlemen sued Oprah... 527 00:33:12,122 --> 00:33:14,656 for criticizing a hamburger. 528 00:33:14,722 --> 00:33:18,122 Where and when is this going to stop? 529 00:33:18,189 --> 00:33:20,989 I don't like the clown bit. 530 00:33:21,056 --> 00:33:23,122 I thought it was insensitive. 531 00:33:24,689 --> 00:33:29,689 But this guy was dressed up as a clown. 532 00:33:29,756 --> 00:33:34,689 This running off to court every time your feelings are hurt? Come on. 533 00:33:36,356 --> 00:33:39,989 We're becoming a nation of victims. 534 00:33:40,056 --> 00:33:42,689 Who's next? 535 00:33:50,556 --> 00:33:54,122 You have to trust me now, Joey. I'm taking over. 536 00:33:54,189 --> 00:33:56,756 I call the shots and you have to trust me. 537 00:33:56,822 --> 00:33:58,722 Why do you even want to help me? 538 00:33:58,789 --> 00:34:02,489 I'm not sure that I even do. But I'm on this case, 539 00:34:02,556 --> 00:34:05,422 and I have to make the legal decisions that I think are necessary. 540 00:34:05,489 --> 00:34:08,322 Now, Dr. Jordan. 541 00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:12,756 He won't agree to testify unless you wear hand and leg restraints. 542 00:34:12,822 --> 00:34:14,789 Why? 543 00:34:14,856 --> 00:34:18,022 He doesn't think that you'll be able to tolerate some of his testimony. 544 00:34:23,956 --> 00:34:28,156 [ Bobby ] How long did you treat Joey Heric? Mmm, almost six years. 545 00:34:28,222 --> 00:34:31,722 Is it possible that the man sitting there... 546 00:34:31,789 --> 00:34:36,889 would rather face murder charges than admit he was outsmarted? 547 00:34:36,956 --> 00:34:41,289 Not only is it possible, I would consider it almost probable. 548 00:34:41,356 --> 00:34:43,289 [ Bobby ] What kind of narcissism are we talking about here? 549 00:34:43,356 --> 00:34:46,589 The same kind of narcissism that prevented you raising insanity. 550 00:34:46,656 --> 00:34:50,622 This man needs to believe he is mentally superior. Look at him. 551 00:34:50,689 --> 00:34:54,656 He sits there, half-dead, not because he's looking at a conviction, 552 00:34:54,722 --> 00:34:56,422 he probably doesn't even care about that. 553 00:34:56,489 --> 00:35:01,689 He's near catatonic because that woman tricked him. 554 00:35:01,756 --> 00:35:04,989 She outmaneuvered him on this witness stand. 555 00:35:05,056 --> 00:35:11,022 Any punishment you give him won't be as bad as what he's suffering right now. 556 00:35:12,789 --> 00:35:14,756 This is a bit much for me. 557 00:35:14,822 --> 00:35:16,722 I don't doubt that. 558 00:35:16,789 --> 00:35:22,522 The man's willing to risk a life term in prison rather than just say, 559 00:35:22,589 --> 00:35:26,156 "Gee, my lover one-upped me by trying to kill himself"? 560 00:35:26,222 --> 00:35:29,622 Trying to make sense of him is futile, Ms. Gamble. 561 00:35:29,689 --> 00:35:34,422 He has an acute narcissistic disorder. He needs to win. 562 00:35:34,489 --> 00:35:40,256 - And would that need to win apply to this trial, Doctor? - Excuse me? 563 00:35:40,322 --> 00:35:42,589 Wouldn't Joey feel an overwhelming need to win this trial? 564 00:35:42,656 --> 00:35:44,856 Yes, he would. 565 00:35:44,922 --> 00:35:48,722 - And he's a brilliant man, isn't he? - He's a genius. 566 00:35:48,789 --> 00:35:54,189 Given his genius and his need to win, is it possible, after I caught him on the stand, 567 00:35:54,256 --> 00:35:56,489 is it possible that he manufactured... 568 00:35:56,556 --> 00:35:59,289 this wonderful story about Marty killing himself? 569 00:36:01,789 --> 00:36:04,689 That is possible. 570 00:36:04,756 --> 00:36:09,656 Does it have to make sense, this kind of narcissistic disorder? 571 00:36:09,722 --> 00:36:12,456 It defies sense or logic. 572 00:36:12,522 --> 00:36:18,189 As Dr. Jordan testified, a narcissist can't bear criticism of any kind. 573 00:36:18,256 --> 00:36:21,456 Imagine when the man he loved looked him in the eye, smiled at him and said, 574 00:36:21,522 --> 00:36:25,689 "I've outsmarted you. I schemed you out of your insurance money. 575 00:36:25,756 --> 00:36:27,989 I beat you." 576 00:36:28,056 --> 00:36:31,622 This man doesn't lose. 577 00:36:31,689 --> 00:36:33,956 [ Helen ] No, he doesn't. 578 00:36:34,022 --> 00:36:36,989 And he wasn't going to lose this one, was he? 579 00:36:37,056 --> 00:36:41,456 He orchestrated an immunity agreement after the first murder. 580 00:36:41,522 --> 00:36:43,556 And here he is today, 581 00:36:43,622 --> 00:36:48,122 suddenly saying that the second victim took his own life. 582 00:36:48,189 --> 00:36:51,022 Maybe his best mind game of all. 583 00:36:51,089 --> 00:36:53,422 [ Bobby ] Well, how can anybody be sure? 584 00:36:53,489 --> 00:36:57,056 You heard his story, it sounded real and he was the only one there. 585 00:36:57,122 --> 00:37:02,456 And his treating doctor said his story is not only possible, it is probable. 586 00:37:03,656 --> 00:37:05,456 Probable. 587 00:37:05,522 --> 00:37:10,689 And the victim's doctor testified that Marty Andleman didshow suicidal tendencies. 588 00:37:10,756 --> 00:37:12,689 You heard that. 589 00:37:12,756 --> 00:37:17,256 [ Helen ] Joey Heric laughed after the first murder. He's laughing at me now. 590 00:37:17,322 --> 00:37:22,022 The only remaining question: Does he get to laugh at you? 591 00:37:24,822 --> 00:37:27,289 [ Crowd Chattering ] 592 00:37:29,856 --> 00:37:31,856 [ Man ] Please be seated. 593 00:37:31,922 --> 00:37:34,556 The Honorable Adam Clarke, presiding. 594 00:37:43,422 --> 00:37:45,422 Madame Foreperson, we'll hear from you. 595 00:37:49,556 --> 00:37:53,856 "In the matter of Marsha Belsonversus New England Carnival Company, 596 00:37:53,922 --> 00:37:57,456 "on the count of intentional infliction of emotional distress, 597 00:37:57,522 --> 00:38:00,622 "we find in favor of the plaintiff... 598 00:38:00,689 --> 00:38:02,789 "and order the defendant to pay damages... 599 00:38:02,856 --> 00:38:05,589 in the amount of $330,000. 600 00:38:08,022 --> 00:38:11,622 [ Judge Clarke ] The jury is dismissed with the thanks of the court. We're adjourned. 601 00:38:11,689 --> 00:38:13,589 [ Gavel Raps ] 602 00:38:20,289 --> 00:38:22,789 If you tell anybody I cried, I break your head. 603 00:38:22,856 --> 00:38:26,022 I understand. [ Chuckles ] 604 00:38:29,956 --> 00:38:33,556 [ Chains Jingling ] 605 00:38:37,156 --> 00:38:40,289 [ Jingling Continues ] 606 00:39:02,522 --> 00:39:05,989 Members of the jury, you have your verdict? 607 00:39:06,056 --> 00:39:08,022 We do, Your Honor. 608 00:39:08,089 --> 00:39:10,556 Will the defendant please rise? 609 00:39:15,922 --> 00:39:18,422 What say you? 610 00:39:18,489 --> 00:39:21,622 "In the matter of the Commonwealth versus Joseph Heric... 611 00:39:21,689 --> 00:39:24,256 "on the charge of murder in the first degree, 612 00:39:24,322 --> 00:39:27,589 we find the defendant Joseph Heric... not guilty." 613 00:39:27,656 --> 00:39:29,422 [ Crowd Chattering ] 614 00:39:34,122 --> 00:39:37,289 [ Judge ] The defendant is free to go. 615 00:39:37,356 --> 00:39:40,522 Members of the jury, thank you for your service. We're adjourned. 616 00:39:40,589 --> 00:39:42,489 [ Gavel Raps ] 617 00:39:52,122 --> 00:39:54,222 [ Lock Unlocking ] 618 00:40:08,922 --> 00:40:12,922 Several of the jurors polled say they really do think he committed the murder, 619 00:40:12,989 --> 00:40:15,222 but they just couldn't be positive. 620 00:40:15,289 --> 00:40:18,089 The only thing we can be sure of, as of right now, 621 00:40:18,156 --> 00:40:21,289 Joey Heric is once again a free man. 622 00:40:21,356 --> 00:40:23,389 [ Woman On TV ] Thank you, Robert. 623 00:40:23,456 --> 00:40:27,822 Elsewhere today, a fiery mid-air collision took the life of-- 624 00:40:27,889 --> 00:40:31,822 Maybe I should keep some of this stuff. Souvenirs. 625 00:40:31,889 --> 00:40:34,222 Research, in case I ever need it again. 626 00:40:34,289 --> 00:40:37,689 Joey... get some help. [ Security Door Buzzes ] 627 00:40:39,289 --> 00:40:41,222 It's just so hard to find, Bobby. 628 00:40:41,289 --> 00:40:44,622 Well... still here. 629 00:40:44,689 --> 00:40:47,456 Thought you'd be out placing a personal by now. 630 00:40:47,522 --> 00:40:49,422 Cute. 631 00:40:49,489 --> 00:40:53,356 "Failed at love twice, willing to take another stab. 632 00:40:53,422 --> 00:40:55,956 Forever yours, Lovesick." 633 00:40:56,022 --> 00:40:59,256 Kinda gets you right here, doesn't it? 634 00:40:59,322 --> 00:41:01,489 I know you're a murderer. 635 00:41:01,556 --> 00:41:06,222 Yes. But do you know I killed Marty? 636 00:41:06,289 --> 00:41:09,156 I'll tell you this, Dorothy. 637 00:41:09,222 --> 00:41:14,056 When you had me on the stand, you really had me. 638 00:41:14,122 --> 00:41:16,589 I got sexually stimulated a little. 639 00:41:16,656 --> 00:41:21,456 Yeah, I could have wanted to deny that Marty killed himself. 640 00:41:21,522 --> 00:41:26,656 That I couldn't bear the idea of losing to him. Oh, you're right. 641 00:41:26,722 --> 00:41:32,589 I could have made it all up to avoid losing to you. 642 00:41:32,656 --> 00:41:35,022 It's so damn confusing. 643 00:41:37,189 --> 00:41:41,122 That's why narcissism is such a bugger. 644 00:41:41,189 --> 00:41:43,722 Can't live with it, but you can date. 645 00:42:15,089 --> 00:42:16,956 [ Woman ] You stinker! 56521

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