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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,125 --> 00:00:08,333 MAN: I don't know where any of us would be 2 00:00:08,417 --> 00:00:09,208 without that stage. 3 00:00:09,792 --> 00:00:12,834 MAN 2: Music provided an avenue out of the legacy of slavery. 4 00:00:12,917 --> 00:00:14,208 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ 5 00:00:14,291 --> 00:00:17,875 Will the Apollo continue to be a space of black expression? 6 00:00:18,208 --> 00:00:20,917 Or will it be a shrine to the past? 7 00:00:22,083 --> 00:00:24,750 The Apollo has always represented truth. 8 00:00:24,834 --> 00:00:26,959 TA-NEHISI COATES: They made us into a race, 9 00:00:27,333 --> 00:00:29,417 but we made ourselves into a people. 10 00:00:33,208 --> 00:00:34,625 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 11 00:01:08,125 --> 00:01:10,709 Audrey Hepburn: Dearest Ralph, 12 00:01:10,792 --> 00:01:13,041 As a designer, 13 00:01:13,125 --> 00:01:14,709 you conjure up 14 00:01:14,792 --> 00:01:18,250 all things I most care about. 15 00:01:18,333 --> 00:01:20,375 The country. 16 00:01:20,458 --> 00:01:22,959 Misty mornings. 17 00:01:23,041 --> 00:01:25,667 Summer afternoons. 18 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:28,083 Great open spaces. 19 00:01:28,166 --> 00:01:29,458 Horses. 20 00:01:29,542 --> 00:01:31,500 Corn fields. 21 00:01:31,583 --> 00:01:33,750 Vegetable gardens. 22 00:01:33,834 --> 00:01:35,542 Fireplaces. 23 00:01:35,625 --> 00:01:38,500 And Jack Russell terriers. 24 00:01:40,667 --> 00:01:44,291 Your story is not about friends. 25 00:01:44,375 --> 00:01:46,583 Or fleeting moments. 26 00:01:46,667 --> 00:01:50,500 But about values, and things that last. 27 00:01:52,125 --> 00:01:57,291 You've not only created a total concept of fashion, and style, 28 00:01:57,375 --> 00:02:01,583 but by your consistency, and integrity, 29 00:02:01,667 --> 00:02:03,583 protected it. 30 00:02:03,667 --> 00:02:05,375 Always reminding us 31 00:02:05,458 --> 00:02:08,208 of the best things in life. 32 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:15,125 And if you say something is "very Ralph Lauren ," 33 00:02:15,208 --> 00:02:16,834 you're immediately understood. 34 00:02:20,458 --> 00:02:23,709 (upbeat orchestral music plays) 35 00:04:28,166 --> 00:04:29,792 Ralph Lauren: Everything in this room 36 00:04:29,875 --> 00:04:33,542 is a mix of everything that I love. 37 00:04:33,625 --> 00:04:35,583 So they're gifts of friends, 38 00:04:35,667 --> 00:04:38,542 they're gifts from people in the company. 39 00:04:38,625 --> 00:04:41,083 They all mean something. 40 00:04:41,166 --> 00:04:44,834 And they're not just things. 41 00:04:44,917 --> 00:04:47,625 I'm inspired by everything that I see. 42 00:04:47,709 --> 00:04:49,875 You know, I love old things. 43 00:04:49,959 --> 00:04:53,375 I love cowboy boots, I love details. 44 00:04:53,458 --> 00:04:55,083 I love cars. 45 00:04:55,166 --> 00:04:59,125 They're sort of the beginnings of a concept. 46 00:04:59,208 --> 00:05:03,333 Somehow it all ends up in my clothes. 47 00:05:03,417 --> 00:05:07,291 We ought to work on something that's a little lighter. 48 00:05:07,375 --> 00:05:09,959 This is authentic, but maybe we need to do 49 00:05:10,041 --> 00:05:12,625 a feminine version of that. 50 00:05:12,709 --> 00:05:15,375 I never thought I was in the fashion business. 51 00:05:15,792 --> 00:05:17,750 If someone said, "Are you a fashion designer?" 52 00:05:17,834 --> 00:05:19,291 No, I hate fashion. 53 00:05:19,375 --> 00:05:22,000 Buffy Birrittella: I think anti-fashion was always something 54 00:05:22,083 --> 00:05:24,125 that Ralph was inspired by. 55 00:05:24,208 --> 00:05:26,291 So it really comes out of, 56 00:05:26,375 --> 00:05:28,500 just a gut that Ralph has. 57 00:05:28,583 --> 00:05:30,625 This amazing instinct. 58 00:05:30,709 --> 00:05:33,166 Mary Randolph Carter: Ralph always says, "I never went to fashion school." 59 00:05:33,250 --> 00:05:35,208 He doesn't do his own sketches. 60 00:05:35,291 --> 00:05:38,417 Not all designers do, but many of them do. 61 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:40,667 These are great. I love these. 62 00:05:40,750 --> 00:05:42,417 I think he was freed. 63 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:44,000 I think it was an amazing thing 64 00:05:44,083 --> 00:05:47,000 that he didn't have that training. 65 00:05:47,083 --> 00:05:50,250 Ralph: I didn't have the training to cut the garment, 66 00:05:50,333 --> 00:05:53,125 or do some of the things that designers do. 67 00:05:53,208 --> 00:05:55,000 But I had the eye. 68 00:05:55,083 --> 00:05:58,000 And I don't know where it came from. 69 00:05:58,083 --> 00:06:01,709 When I was growing up, I didn't even know what a designer was. 70 00:06:01,792 --> 00:06:04,375 But my father was an artist. 71 00:06:04,458 --> 00:06:06,000 The color 72 00:06:06,083 --> 00:06:09,750 somehow comes from my father. 73 00:06:14,583 --> 00:06:16,917 My father was a painter. 74 00:06:17,458 --> 00:06:19,417 He made paintings 75 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:21,709 and murals in offices, 76 00:06:21,792 --> 00:06:24,375 and churches and synagogues. 77 00:06:24,458 --> 00:06:26,959 I'd watch him up on scaffolds painting, 78 00:06:27,041 --> 00:06:28,875 and I'd say, "Wow, it's amazing." 79 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:31,417 But I didn't have his talent. 80 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:34,583 But somehow, I was given something else. 81 00:06:35,625 --> 00:06:38,959 The artistry came in another way. 82 00:06:39,291 --> 00:06:41,458 (jazzy music playing) 83 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:49,792 Ralph had this special thing 84 00:06:49,875 --> 00:06:52,000 that rose to the surface. 85 00:06:55,417 --> 00:06:58,709 He had such a great creativity and imagination. 86 00:07:00,125 --> 00:07:04,125 So I always felt a little special about, you know, who I was. 87 00:07:04,208 --> 00:07:07,583 Was I Eddie Fisher? (laughs) Or was I... 88 00:07:07,667 --> 00:07:10,417 whoever the star was at the moment. 89 00:07:19,083 --> 00:07:21,750 When I was a kid, I'd go into a dance, 90 00:07:21,834 --> 00:07:23,417 and the girls, 91 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:25,917 somehow I could feel that they liked me. 92 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,834 And I couldn't figure out what it was, 93 00:07:27,917 --> 00:07:30,041 whether I was really handsome, 94 00:07:30,125 --> 00:07:32,125 or it was my imagination. 95 00:07:33,875 --> 00:07:35,542 But I enjoyed 96 00:07:35,625 --> 00:07:38,667 if someone said I was cute. 97 00:07:41,834 --> 00:07:44,166 Jerry Lauren: He had a natural affinity 98 00:07:44,250 --> 00:07:46,125 for finding things 99 00:07:46,208 --> 00:07:49,542 and putting himself together, 100 00:07:49,625 --> 00:07:51,458 uh, that made him special. 101 00:07:51,542 --> 00:07:54,041 Like, "Where'd you-- Where'd you find that, Ralph?" 102 00:07:56,041 --> 00:07:57,959 Maybe he'd find a local store 103 00:07:58,041 --> 00:08:01,542 that had an old army jacket, and he'd wear that. 104 00:08:03,709 --> 00:08:05,291 But maybe he'd grab a jacket 105 00:08:05,375 --> 00:08:08,083 and then, and was stylish. 106 00:08:08,166 --> 00:08:10,291 And, and it was like, boom. 107 00:08:10,375 --> 00:08:13,709 Everybody looked around and said, "That's great. That's cool." 108 00:08:15,375 --> 00:08:17,583 He just had style. 109 00:08:21,250 --> 00:08:25,792 Calvin Klein: I saw Ralph when I was a teenager. 110 00:08:25,875 --> 00:08:28,750 We both grew up in the Bronx. 111 00:08:28,834 --> 00:08:31,250 I remember seeing him 112 00:08:31,333 --> 00:08:34,291 because he dressed in a way 113 00:08:34,375 --> 00:08:38,166 that was so different from everyone else. 114 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:40,417 And I thought, "How cool," you know, 115 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:43,375 "that he has the courage to walk around like that." 116 00:08:43,458 --> 00:08:46,959 He had a very personal look. 117 00:08:48,375 --> 00:08:49,959 Ralph: When I was 14, 118 00:08:50,041 --> 00:08:52,000 my friend took me up to his house. 119 00:08:52,083 --> 00:08:54,792 And then he opened his father's closet. 120 00:08:54,875 --> 00:08:57,750 I saw all these shoes 121 00:08:57,834 --> 00:08:59,834 with shoe trees in them. 122 00:08:59,917 --> 00:09:02,583 And I said, "Wow, look at that." 123 00:09:02,667 --> 00:09:05,208 I went home and looked at my closet. 124 00:09:05,291 --> 00:09:07,208 It was shoes piled up, 125 00:09:07,291 --> 00:09:10,291 hardly can find one shoe after the other shoe. 126 00:09:11,166 --> 00:09:13,500 I lived in a small little room 127 00:09:13,583 --> 00:09:16,125 with my two older brothers. 128 00:09:16,208 --> 00:09:18,166 I had the cot, 129 00:09:18,250 --> 00:09:20,792 and I realized that I can't wait to get out of here, 130 00:09:20,875 --> 00:09:24,500 so I can have my own drawers and my own things. 131 00:09:26,959 --> 00:09:29,291 I grew up in a very humble way. 132 00:09:29,375 --> 00:09:31,709 My parents were European. 133 00:09:31,792 --> 00:09:35,417 Came to this country when they were 16 and 17 years old. 134 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:38,834 And they took care of us, and, and loved us. 135 00:09:38,917 --> 00:09:42,083 I always had a nice home life with my parents, 136 00:09:42,166 --> 00:09:44,166 and my brothers and sister. 137 00:09:45,792 --> 00:09:49,250 But you are always aspiring. 138 00:09:49,333 --> 00:09:51,291 You set your dreams. 139 00:09:51,375 --> 00:09:54,750 You're looking out at the world a little bit. 140 00:09:54,834 --> 00:09:58,041 Learning that life could be better. 141 00:09:59,959 --> 00:10:03,375 I could see that there was something 142 00:10:03,458 --> 00:10:05,125 that he was creating, 143 00:10:05,208 --> 00:10:07,208 that I think later on, 144 00:10:07,291 --> 00:10:10,083 uh, he would use in his design rooms. 145 00:10:10,166 --> 00:10:13,333 The vision was the same. 146 00:10:13,417 --> 00:10:17,750 He had this idea about lifestyle, 147 00:10:17,834 --> 00:10:19,834 buying into 148 00:10:19,917 --> 00:10:24,500 you can live this way through his clothes. 149 00:10:30,875 --> 00:10:33,500 (indistinct chattering) 150 00:10:36,125 --> 00:10:38,375 I just walk straight there. 151 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,750 -Okay. -Thank you. 152 00:10:42,834 --> 00:10:45,959 Here's your-- Oh, you want to see, Ralph? 153 00:10:46,041 --> 00:10:48,458 Ralph: You know, when models walk into my office, 154 00:10:48,542 --> 00:10:50,583 they're 18 years old. 155 00:10:50,667 --> 00:10:52,750 No sophistication. 156 00:10:54,041 --> 00:10:56,834 -Michel Botbol: Where are you from? -I'm from Germany. 157 00:10:56,917 --> 00:10:59,917 Ralph: All of sudden they become something else. 158 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,250 -Isabella, where are you from? -Brazil. 159 00:11:02,333 --> 00:11:03,458 Take a walk. 160 00:11:03,542 --> 00:11:05,500 Ralph: The star of your movie. 161 00:11:06,792 --> 00:11:08,792 -Hi. -Birrittella: The light went out. 162 00:11:14,125 --> 00:11:16,875 Birrittella: Interesting, but I can't use this. 163 00:11:16,959 --> 00:11:19,792 (indistinct chattering) 164 00:11:19,875 --> 00:11:21,333 -I think she's good. -Yeah. 165 00:11:21,417 --> 00:11:22,667 -All right. Okay. -She's good. 166 00:11:22,750 --> 00:11:24,500 Ralph: I like very natural women. 167 00:11:24,583 --> 00:11:26,208 Not too much makeup. 168 00:11:26,291 --> 00:11:28,959 She just wears a pair of jeans and a T-shirt. 169 00:11:29,041 --> 00:11:32,917 Not the girl with all the fashion and the designer clothes. 170 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,333 And I love long hair. 171 00:11:35,417 --> 00:11:37,083 Hair blowing in the wind, convertible-- 172 00:11:37,166 --> 00:11:40,208 That's what my vision is, what my wife looks like. 173 00:11:49,583 --> 00:11:52,542 Andrew Lauren: My mother is his muse. 174 00:11:52,625 --> 00:11:55,834 She has a great sense of personal style. 175 00:11:55,917 --> 00:11:58,166 Uh, and simplicity. 176 00:11:59,458 --> 00:12:02,291 Dylan Lauren: She's beautiful, and she's very natural. 177 00:12:02,375 --> 00:12:05,333 My dad does not like any makeup on me or her. 178 00:12:05,417 --> 00:12:08,041 He wants very natural beauty. 179 00:12:08,125 --> 00:12:10,959 She really just is so down to earth. 180 00:12:11,041 --> 00:12:13,375 My mom is sort of a tomboy jock 181 00:12:13,458 --> 00:12:15,625 and elegant woman. 182 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,333 David Lauren: My mom walks into a room 183 00:12:20,417 --> 00:12:23,625 and she just looks natural, and dress is flowing, 184 00:12:23,709 --> 00:12:26,542 and he says, "Wow. You look beautiful," he'll say. 185 00:12:26,625 --> 00:12:28,375 And then he'll go into the office and say, 186 00:12:28,458 --> 00:12:30,667 "You should have seen how Ricky walked in. What she did." 187 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:33,000 The way she was dressed, that's what I'm trying to 188 00:12:33,083 --> 00:12:35,667 capture a little bit of that spirit. 189 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:38,250 His different characters come to life, 190 00:12:38,333 --> 00:12:42,166 but they all have pieces of my mom in them. 191 00:12:51,208 --> 00:12:53,667 (train rumbling) 192 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,959 Ralph: I grew up passing Ricky's door 193 00:12:58,041 --> 00:12:59,625 in the Bronx. 194 00:12:59,709 --> 00:13:03,583 But we'd never met. 195 00:13:03,667 --> 00:13:07,667 When I met Ricky, she was 19 and a half years old. 196 00:13:09,166 --> 00:13:10,417 There was an honesty 197 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:13,083 and an integrity to her, and a sweetness, 198 00:13:13,166 --> 00:13:15,583 and by accident, she happened to have been beautiful. 199 00:13:15,667 --> 00:13:19,458 He said, "If I asked you, would you go out with me?" 200 00:13:19,542 --> 00:13:22,834 And I said, "I don't know. Ask and we'll see." 201 00:13:22,917 --> 00:13:26,208 But he thought I was being very clever and coy. I wasn't. 202 00:13:26,291 --> 00:13:29,000 I was innocent, and I said what I felt. 203 00:13:30,458 --> 00:13:32,792 Ralph: I was 24 years old. 204 00:13:32,875 --> 00:13:35,041 And I was not looking to get married. 205 00:13:35,125 --> 00:13:37,750 But we fell in love, and it was like, 206 00:13:37,834 --> 00:13:39,625 after about the fourth date, I thought, 207 00:13:39,709 --> 00:13:41,792 this is the girl I'm gonna marry. 208 00:13:46,875 --> 00:13:48,208 Ricky Lauren: We were children. 209 00:13:48,291 --> 00:13:49,625 We were living there in the Bronx. 210 00:13:49,709 --> 00:13:52,875 I was... We were still kids. (laughs) 211 00:13:52,959 --> 00:13:56,208 We had a small apartment with a Pullman kitchen. 212 00:13:56,291 --> 00:13:58,875 A kitchen that's in the same room as the living room. 213 00:13:58,959 --> 00:14:00,333 We had nothing. 214 00:14:00,417 --> 00:14:03,417 We slept on the floor on a mattress, and-- (laughs) 215 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,125 And that was the beginning. 216 00:14:05,417 --> 00:14:08,667 We had a train above our heads. The El. 217 00:14:08,750 --> 00:14:10,375 It was like a movie. 218 00:14:11,417 --> 00:14:13,000 When we'd hear the noise, 219 00:14:13,083 --> 00:14:14,875 I think it was Barefoot in the Park 220 00:14:14,959 --> 00:14:17,667 when the train went by and the whole room... 221 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:19,500 It's sort of the young, married couple, 222 00:14:19,583 --> 00:14:21,291 and I remember we had a phone and... 223 00:14:21,375 --> 00:14:24,750 The phone was a turquoise Princess. 224 00:14:24,834 --> 00:14:27,875 And I never, ever thought I'd have a tur-- a Princ-- 225 00:14:27,959 --> 00:14:30,083 turquoise Princess phone in my house. 226 00:14:30,166 --> 00:14:32,792 But we loved the phone 'cause it was so modern. 227 00:14:36,875 --> 00:14:39,041 Ricky Lauren: And we'd go down to Greenwich Village, 228 00:14:39,125 --> 00:14:41,709 and there was a store that sold furs. 229 00:14:41,792 --> 00:14:44,041 And they were patchwork furs, very often. 230 00:14:44,125 --> 00:14:46,875 And we'd go searching around for interesting things 231 00:14:46,959 --> 00:14:49,250 that we could decorate the house with. 232 00:14:49,333 --> 00:14:51,083 We had a bulletin board. 233 00:14:51,166 --> 00:14:55,125 And on the bulletin board, we would tack dream pictures. 234 00:14:55,208 --> 00:14:56,542 Things we loved. 235 00:14:56,625 --> 00:14:59,417 Like he would put a Morgan sports car. 236 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:02,000 Or a beautiful place. 237 00:15:03,208 --> 00:15:06,208 Anything that we'd loved at the time. 238 00:15:06,291 --> 00:15:08,333 His father was an artist, 239 00:15:08,417 --> 00:15:11,750 and he was able to do faux bois, which is fake wood. 240 00:15:11,834 --> 00:15:13,417 He painted it. 241 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:17,208 So the walls of the living room were wood. 242 00:15:17,291 --> 00:15:19,125 But not really wood. (laughs) 243 00:15:19,208 --> 00:15:20,750 They were painted. 244 00:15:20,834 --> 00:15:23,750 Ralph: And we painted all the little trim in the house, 245 00:15:23,834 --> 00:15:28,041 and they were wrought-iron. We made 'em like gold. 246 00:15:28,125 --> 00:15:31,458 Ricky Lauren: We stayed up all night long gilding. 247 00:15:31,542 --> 00:15:34,417 It was ridiculous. With those fur rugs, 248 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:37,875 and everything else that we had accumulated. 249 00:15:39,625 --> 00:15:43,375 We didn't have very much, but we were happy with what we had. 250 00:15:48,166 --> 00:15:50,208 This is nice on Vlada. 251 00:15:52,250 --> 00:15:54,083 Ralph: You like that? You want a bag? 252 00:15:54,166 --> 00:15:56,000 Kind of a very cool bag? 253 00:15:56,083 --> 00:15:58,291 Botbol: The one with the studs was cool. 254 00:16:00,417 --> 00:16:02,834 Botbol: Ralph, doesn't have to be exact with the ponytail, 255 00:16:02,917 --> 00:16:04,333 -but there's something chic-- -But when you see her, 256 00:16:04,417 --> 00:16:06,458 when you see her hair up... 257 00:16:06,542 --> 00:16:08,667 -...you want it more dramatic. -Woman: Needs to be more umph. 258 00:16:08,750 --> 00:16:11,792 Ralph: Yeah. Yeah, let me see that. 259 00:16:11,875 --> 00:16:13,583 That looks beautiful. 260 00:16:13,667 --> 00:16:16,375 The bag looks a little rugged. 261 00:16:16,458 --> 00:16:19,792 You know, I didn't know what my story was gonna be. 262 00:16:19,875 --> 00:16:23,125 I didn't say, "I'm gonna be this great fashion designer." 263 00:16:23,208 --> 00:16:24,667 Or whatever you want to call it. 264 00:16:25,625 --> 00:16:30,125 But even as a young man, I had a story 265 00:16:30,208 --> 00:16:33,125 Birrittella: He always had a sense about 266 00:16:33,208 --> 00:16:34,625 what he wanted to look like, 267 00:16:34,709 --> 00:16:37,417 how he wanted his clothes to look. 268 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:39,291 When he was a tie salesman, 269 00:16:39,375 --> 00:16:41,667 he and Ricky had just gotten married. 270 00:16:41,750 --> 00:16:46,000 And he went to a custom tailor, and... 271 00:16:46,083 --> 00:16:49,083 just told him what he wanted. 272 00:16:50,166 --> 00:16:51,959 No training whatsoever. 273 00:16:52,041 --> 00:16:56,583 And he designed his wardrobe with this tailor. 274 00:16:57,709 --> 00:16:59,667 The Daily News Record, 275 00:16:59,750 --> 00:17:03,166 which was the menswear daily newspaper, 276 00:17:03,250 --> 00:17:06,625 did a story on Ralph back in 1964 277 00:17:06,709 --> 00:17:09,625 on his personal style. 278 00:17:09,709 --> 00:17:15,125 This is three years before he started his business. 279 00:17:15,208 --> 00:17:19,166 He was just this dashing man about town 280 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:21,500 who, because he couldn't find 281 00:17:21,583 --> 00:17:23,834 exactly what he wanted in the stores, 282 00:17:23,917 --> 00:17:26,208 was having his clothes custom-made 283 00:17:26,291 --> 00:17:29,166 while he was, uh, a salesman. 284 00:17:30,375 --> 00:17:33,625 Ralph: I just knew what I wanted. 285 00:17:33,709 --> 00:17:35,583 I had this passion to get something 286 00:17:35,667 --> 00:17:37,166 and no one was doing it. 287 00:17:37,250 --> 00:17:38,792 So I'm saying, "I wanna buy a tie. 288 00:17:38,875 --> 00:17:39,875 I wanna wear the white tie." 289 00:17:39,959 --> 00:17:41,291 Then I would go to a tie-maker 290 00:17:41,375 --> 00:17:43,458 and have them make ties for me. 291 00:17:43,542 --> 00:17:45,709 Why I wanted the white tie, 292 00:17:45,792 --> 00:17:48,959 maybe I saw it in old movies and they looked great. 293 00:17:49,041 --> 00:17:52,000 Maybe it was on Fred Astaire, and I liked the look. 294 00:17:52,083 --> 00:17:53,500 ♪ It's just like ♪ 295 00:17:53,583 --> 00:17:55,375 ♪ Looking for a raindrop in the ocean ♪ 296 00:17:55,458 --> 00:17:57,166 Ralph: And I'd say, "I want it, I want that." 297 00:17:57,250 --> 00:17:59,834 ♪ Searching for a dew drop in the dew ♪ 298 00:17:59,917 --> 00:18:02,000 Ralph: But I didn't know where to buy it. 299 00:18:02,083 --> 00:18:03,917 ♪ Still I've gotta find you ♪ 300 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,542 Ralph: Um, I saw 'em in the movies, 301 00:18:05,625 --> 00:18:06,875 but I didn't see 'em in the stores. 302 00:18:06,959 --> 00:18:08,583 ♪ I'm gonna count ♪ 303 00:18:08,667 --> 00:18:10,458 ♪ The folks that we'll meet ♪ 304 00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:12,583 ♪ Look at each face... ♪ 305 00:18:12,667 --> 00:18:15,333 Ralph: I had ideas about newness. 306 00:18:15,417 --> 00:18:17,750 And so I started out making these ties. 307 00:18:17,834 --> 00:18:19,583 And I made them unusual. 308 00:18:19,667 --> 00:18:21,291 My ties were handmade. 309 00:18:21,375 --> 00:18:23,000 They were special. 310 00:18:23,083 --> 00:18:26,250 My mom would sit there with a cousin of hers. 311 00:18:26,333 --> 00:18:29,375 And they'd sew the labels into the neck wear. 312 00:18:29,458 --> 00:18:32,625 And my dad helped Ralph make swatch cards. 313 00:18:32,709 --> 00:18:37,083 And, uh, it was kind of like everybody pitching in. 314 00:18:37,166 --> 00:18:40,291 The office, really, was the tiniest little thing 315 00:18:40,375 --> 00:18:42,000 in the Empire State Building. 316 00:18:42,083 --> 00:18:44,709 And all he had was a drawer. And in the drawer, 317 00:18:44,792 --> 00:18:48,250 he had the samples of the ties and the fabrics. 318 00:18:48,333 --> 00:18:50,792 Ralph: I called the brand "Polo" 319 00:18:50,875 --> 00:18:52,834 because I always loved sports. 320 00:18:52,917 --> 00:18:56,583 And, you know, I-- I thought, well, "I couldn't call it baseball, 321 00:18:56,667 --> 00:18:58,166 or basketball," I said, 322 00:18:58,250 --> 00:19:01,834 and "Polo" sounded sort of sporty. 323 00:19:01,917 --> 00:19:04,375 It sounds like a master plan. It wasn't a master plan. 324 00:19:04,458 --> 00:19:05,959 Not thinking about any of it, 325 00:19:06,041 --> 00:19:07,959 I said, "This is what I want to do. I like these ties. 326 00:19:08,041 --> 00:19:09,959 "I'm gonna make 'em wider. I'm gonna bring 'em over to the store. 327 00:19:10,041 --> 00:19:11,750 I think they're gonna like it." 328 00:19:11,834 --> 00:19:13,667 I brought it over to Bloomingdale's. 329 00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:16,500 'Cause Bloomindale's was the entree into every store. 330 00:19:16,583 --> 00:19:18,458 'Cause every store at that time 331 00:19:18,542 --> 00:19:21,458 was shopping Bloomingdale's to see what was new. 332 00:19:21,542 --> 00:19:25,125 Who the new resource is, what's happening. 333 00:19:25,208 --> 00:19:28,041 And I brought the ties to Bloomingdale's. 334 00:19:28,125 --> 00:19:31,291 The buyer looked at the tie and said, "Ralph, it's too wide. 335 00:19:31,375 --> 00:19:33,917 "And would you make it a little narrower? 336 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,375 "And would you take your label off? 337 00:19:35,458 --> 00:19:37,959 We want to have our store brand." 338 00:19:38,041 --> 00:19:39,959 When our tie buyer 339 00:19:40,041 --> 00:19:42,917 asked him to take the Ralph Lauren label off the ties, 340 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,041 he simply closed up his sample case and walked away. 341 00:19:48,125 --> 00:19:51,500 Ralph: I don't know what gave me the guts to say no. 342 00:19:51,583 --> 00:19:54,166 Not selling to a major store 343 00:19:54,250 --> 00:19:55,875 that was gonna give you all that exposure, 344 00:19:55,959 --> 00:19:58,667 because I want 'em to be the way I designed it, and... 345 00:19:58,750 --> 00:20:01,542 this is the brand, and this is the name. 346 00:20:01,625 --> 00:20:03,000 Jerry Lauren: Right then and there, 347 00:20:03,083 --> 00:20:04,583 that was gonna be his first opportunity 348 00:20:04,667 --> 00:20:06,959 to really do some business, or whatever, 349 00:20:07,041 --> 00:20:08,792 and he walked away. 350 00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:10,375 "Forget about it. 351 00:20:10,458 --> 00:20:11,834 "You don't have to buy my stuff. 352 00:20:11,917 --> 00:20:13,959 I'm not gonna give you your label." 353 00:20:15,291 --> 00:20:17,667 Ricky Lauren: When he told me, 354 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:19,583 it got me kind of nervous. 355 00:20:19,667 --> 00:20:21,250 But I wrote him a letter, 356 00:20:21,333 --> 00:20:23,542 and on-- in the letter, I said, 357 00:20:23,625 --> 00:20:26,000 "I'm not going to be in your way. 358 00:20:26,083 --> 00:20:28,750 "I'm going to wish for you the wings to fly. 359 00:20:28,834 --> 00:20:31,083 "And I'll be there with you. 360 00:20:31,166 --> 00:20:33,917 Whatever you do, I'm there for you." 361 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Ralph: I loved what she wrote. 362 00:20:36,083 --> 00:20:38,875 It was very deep-felt. 363 00:20:38,959 --> 00:20:42,375 Ricky's parents came from Vienna. 364 00:20:42,458 --> 00:20:44,875 They left when Hitler came. 365 00:20:44,959 --> 00:20:48,291 She grew up hearing what they lived through. 366 00:20:48,375 --> 00:20:51,667 And so, she wanted stability. 367 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:54,959 She was saying, "I believe in you. 368 00:20:55,041 --> 00:20:57,792 And I think you're gonna do it." 369 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,542 And I did it. 370 00:21:01,625 --> 00:21:04,417 Bloomingdale's came back to me. 371 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:06,875 -Narrator: The Polo tie, by Ralph Lauren. -(hooves clopping) 372 00:21:06,959 --> 00:21:08,792 -All linen, in 10 smashing colors. -(thwacks) 373 00:21:08,875 --> 00:21:11,500 $12.50 at Bloomindale's, the Father's Day store. 374 00:21:11,583 --> 00:21:13,709 When you have a four-inch tie, 375 00:21:13,792 --> 00:21:16,667 instead of three-inch or two-and-a-half inch, 376 00:21:16,750 --> 00:21:19,500 it changes the way someone looks. 377 00:21:21,291 --> 00:21:22,959 When you had a wide tie, 378 00:21:23,041 --> 00:21:27,583 the next step is you need different shirts and different collars. 379 00:21:27,667 --> 00:21:30,417 Now you had new ties, new shirts, 380 00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:33,875 and you need new suits. 381 00:21:33,959 --> 00:21:36,125 That was the era of the '60s, 382 00:21:36,208 --> 00:21:39,125 the time when the whole men's business 383 00:21:39,208 --> 00:21:41,458 really was going through change. 384 00:21:49,375 --> 00:21:52,709 Ralph: And I found a whole world of, of ideas. 385 00:21:52,792 --> 00:21:55,250 The timing was interesting. 386 00:21:55,333 --> 00:21:57,750 The world was changing. 387 00:21:57,834 --> 00:22:00,375 Fashion was happening for men. 388 00:22:01,542 --> 00:22:03,250 Birrittella: It was the early '60s 389 00:22:03,333 --> 00:22:05,125 when men wore a uniform. 390 00:22:05,208 --> 00:22:10,208 There was just very, very prescribed ways of dressing. 391 00:22:10,291 --> 00:22:15,458 Joel Schumacher: It was the '60s Mad Men era. 392 00:22:17,083 --> 00:22:19,166 Men's clothes 393 00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:22,917 were very-- still very, very conservative. 394 00:22:24,208 --> 00:22:26,333 Ralph: I knew how to do the ties. 395 00:22:26,417 --> 00:22:29,166 But I didn't stop from there. I just kept going. 396 00:22:29,250 --> 00:22:31,125 What am I gonna wear with the ties? 397 00:22:31,208 --> 00:22:33,250 Am I gonna make a shirt? Gonna make a suit? 398 00:22:33,333 --> 00:22:35,959 I found the suit maker. I met the shirt maker. All of a sudden, 399 00:22:36,041 --> 00:22:39,625 they're buying the ties. They're loving the ties. "What else you make, Ralph?" 400 00:22:39,709 --> 00:22:42,208 "I have shirts." 401 00:22:42,291 --> 00:22:46,166 Birrittella: He was doing very flamboyant shirtings. 402 00:22:46,250 --> 00:22:49,000 And these wide lapel suits. 403 00:22:49,083 --> 00:22:51,166 And, uh, so, it was news. 404 00:22:51,250 --> 00:22:54,709 And I was a journalist, so of course, I wrote about him, 405 00:22:54,792 --> 00:22:56,583 because it was fantastic. 406 00:22:57,667 --> 00:23:00,834 He had done this linen belted back suit. 407 00:23:00,917 --> 00:23:05,750 No one was doing wrinkled, unconstructed suits. 408 00:23:05,834 --> 00:23:09,166 You can picture guys in the '30s, 409 00:23:09,250 --> 00:23:13,458 and I immediately thought of Gatsby. 410 00:23:15,291 --> 00:23:16,667 Bridget Foley: He started with, you know, 411 00:23:16,750 --> 00:23:18,083 the kind of clothes that he wanted to wear. 412 00:23:18,166 --> 00:23:20,542 The characters he would like to be. 413 00:23:20,625 --> 00:23:22,291 He wanted to tell stories. 414 00:23:22,375 --> 00:23:24,000 And that was completely new 415 00:23:24,083 --> 00:23:26,625 and revolutionary in the men's arena. 416 00:23:27,792 --> 00:23:31,083 He basically created the menswear industry 417 00:23:31,166 --> 00:23:33,291 as a designer reality. 418 00:23:33,375 --> 00:23:35,375 Ralph: When I was starting out, 419 00:23:35,458 --> 00:23:37,291 uh, the designer name 420 00:23:37,375 --> 00:23:40,542 was not, uh, appealing to men. 421 00:23:40,625 --> 00:23:43,291 They were used to buying in certain companies, 422 00:23:43,375 --> 00:23:45,917 certain brand stores. 423 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,917 But they were not-- Designers were for the women. 424 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,458 And the tailor was for the man. 425 00:23:55,792 --> 00:23:57,375 (indistinct chattering) 426 00:23:57,458 --> 00:23:59,375 Ralph: As long as it has the folds in it, Jerry. 427 00:23:59,458 --> 00:24:02,500 Jerry Lauren: Yeah. I know, I know. 428 00:24:02,583 --> 00:24:06,709 Schumacher: What Ralph did was took some of the great classics, 429 00:24:06,792 --> 00:24:09,834 and made them relevant. 430 00:24:10,834 --> 00:24:12,750 He made them better. 431 00:24:12,834 --> 00:24:15,667 Better fabrics, better fit. 432 00:24:16,667 --> 00:24:18,208 And Ralph's taste... 433 00:24:18,291 --> 00:24:20,417 Bob, if you wanna take off your hat when you're taking it off, 434 00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:22,041 take off your hat. 435 00:24:22,125 --> 00:24:25,000 Schumacher: He has a very critical eye. 436 00:24:25,083 --> 00:24:27,458 And Buffy Birrittella 437 00:24:27,542 --> 00:24:29,458 was so attuned to him 438 00:24:29,542 --> 00:24:33,625 that she knew exactly what he wanted. 439 00:24:33,709 --> 00:24:35,959 (indistinct chatter) 440 00:24:36,041 --> 00:24:38,125 Birrittella: The attention to detail, 441 00:24:38,208 --> 00:24:42,625 whether it's a shirt or a shoulder on a jacket, 442 00:24:42,709 --> 00:24:44,083 those were things that, 443 00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:48,291 you know, he trained my eye on very, very early on. 444 00:24:48,375 --> 00:24:50,500 For chairman of the board, I don't know. 445 00:24:50,583 --> 00:24:52,709 Birrittella: So, when you go out there, 446 00:24:52,792 --> 00:24:53,792 take your time. 447 00:24:53,875 --> 00:24:56,208 Walk back and forth across the T, 448 00:24:56,291 --> 00:24:58,000 and up and down. 449 00:25:02,917 --> 00:25:06,834 One of the things he was trying to do was to meld 450 00:25:06,917 --> 00:25:11,542 the custom tailoring of English Savile Row, 451 00:25:11,625 --> 00:25:14,208 with an American sensibility. 452 00:25:20,083 --> 00:25:22,542 But it was the spirit of the clothes, 453 00:25:22,625 --> 00:25:25,667 not just the technical details of the clothes, 454 00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:28,917 that made me see clothes in a whole other way. 455 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,500 I knew I had to work for him. 456 00:25:33,583 --> 00:25:35,500 Ralph: Buffy was my right arm. 457 00:25:35,583 --> 00:25:38,458 She understood the clothes. I showed her a jacket; she got it. 458 00:25:38,542 --> 00:25:41,000 Her eye was good. 459 00:25:41,083 --> 00:25:43,333 Birrittella: He's very competitive. 460 00:25:43,417 --> 00:25:45,208 Very sure of himself. 461 00:25:45,291 --> 00:25:48,333 He had a real sense about who he was, 462 00:25:48,417 --> 00:25:50,375 and what he wanted to do. 463 00:25:50,458 --> 00:25:53,709 Some would characterize it as cockiness, 464 00:25:53,792 --> 00:25:57,083 but I saw it more as confidence. 465 00:25:57,166 --> 00:25:59,709 He just had a real belief 466 00:25:59,792 --> 00:26:01,375 and passion 467 00:26:01,458 --> 00:26:03,291 about what he was doing. 468 00:26:03,375 --> 00:26:06,959 Ralph came to me and said, "I need a shop." 469 00:26:08,125 --> 00:26:10,917 And in his typical calm, understated way, he said, 470 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,375 "Marvin, if I don't have a shop, 471 00:26:12,458 --> 00:26:14,917 uh, I can't sell to you anymore." 472 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,250 Um, we gave him a shop. 473 00:26:17,333 --> 00:26:20,583 And really planned one in the middle of our main floor. 474 00:26:20,667 --> 00:26:23,208 I mean, going into Bloomingdale's, 475 00:26:23,291 --> 00:26:25,792 I mean, owning a store, 476 00:26:25,875 --> 00:26:27,458 within a store, 477 00:26:27,542 --> 00:26:29,417 I said, "How did Ralph 478 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:31,500 "get on the first floor of Bloomingdale's 479 00:26:31,583 --> 00:26:34,208 where all the bags and the makeup and the jewelry was?" 480 00:26:34,291 --> 00:26:36,750 But no. Ralph was right there. 481 00:26:36,834 --> 00:26:40,250 He had front stage. Always had. 482 00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:42,709 Ralph had the whole picture. 483 00:26:42,792 --> 00:26:45,792 Ralph: Bloomingdale's, Marvin Traub, particularly, 484 00:26:45,875 --> 00:26:48,000 was a believer. 485 00:26:48,667 --> 00:26:51,125 I became their guy. 486 00:26:51,208 --> 00:26:55,166 And they said, "Keep going, Ralph. We want more." 487 00:26:55,959 --> 00:26:57,709 But it grew too fast. 488 00:26:57,792 --> 00:27:01,208 And I didn't have the right bankers at the time. 489 00:27:01,291 --> 00:27:03,542 Schumacher: There was a certain point, 490 00:27:03,625 --> 00:27:04,750 in the very early days, 491 00:27:04,834 --> 00:27:07,875 where Ralph almost lost the whole business. 492 00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:14,959 Birrittella: In the early '70s, 493 00:27:15,041 --> 00:27:18,417 before we started licensing, 494 00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:23,083 the company had overextended at the bank. 495 00:27:23,166 --> 00:27:26,125 The money going out was far extending 496 00:27:26,208 --> 00:27:28,375 the money coming in. 497 00:27:28,458 --> 00:27:32,041 We couldn't even, I believe, make our payroll . 498 00:27:34,834 --> 00:27:37,041 Ralph: I just remember, like, 499 00:27:37,125 --> 00:27:39,875 one of the guys said, "Ralph, you're out of business." 500 00:27:40,917 --> 00:27:43,291 I remember I was so scared. 501 00:27:43,375 --> 00:27:46,417 I was sweating, but it was cold. 502 00:27:47,542 --> 00:27:50,125 What I was worried about? Telling my father. 503 00:27:50,208 --> 00:27:52,667 I thought, the one person, 504 00:27:52,750 --> 00:27:57,875 I had this vision of telling my father I went out of business. 505 00:27:57,959 --> 00:28:01,333 I got up in the morning; it was raining. 506 00:28:01,417 --> 00:28:03,875 And I don't know why, 507 00:28:03,959 --> 00:28:08,250 but I put on a white jacket and white pants. 508 00:28:09,417 --> 00:28:11,625 I hardly ever wear a white suit. 509 00:28:11,709 --> 00:28:13,291 And I was walking in the rain. 510 00:28:13,375 --> 00:28:15,417 And I said to myself, 511 00:28:16,166 --> 00:28:19,125 "I'm gonna make it back. I'm not gonna let this happen." 512 00:28:19,208 --> 00:28:21,667 I went to my partner, Larry Lockman, 513 00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:25,709 and said, "We have to advance credit to the Ralph Lauren company, 514 00:28:25,792 --> 00:28:27,625 "so they can buy piece goods 515 00:28:27,709 --> 00:28:29,500 in order to ship to Bloomingdale's." 516 00:28:29,583 --> 00:28:32,625 Something we hadn't done for other people. 517 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:36,458 Ralph: I saved a little money. 518 00:28:36,542 --> 00:28:39,458 I put everything I had back into the company. 519 00:28:40,917 --> 00:28:43,667 And I, I made it back. 520 00:28:45,792 --> 00:28:48,625 I had a voice. I had a showcase. 521 00:28:48,709 --> 00:28:50,834 I can do this. 522 00:28:50,917 --> 00:28:53,250 Designer as a store, 523 00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:56,542 not just a designer as a tie or a shirt. 524 00:28:56,625 --> 00:28:59,542 A designer as a, as a, as a business. 525 00:28:59,625 --> 00:29:01,291 Ralph: You think you have to convince me? 526 00:29:01,375 --> 00:29:02,792 Or, I feel like-- 527 00:29:02,875 --> 00:29:04,291 -Man: No-- -I'm sitting here, I'm like-- 528 00:29:04,375 --> 00:29:05,959 he's gonna be hard to convince. 529 00:29:06,041 --> 00:29:08,875 -What's, what's strange about this? -Man: No. Just-- 530 00:29:08,959 --> 00:29:11,083 The only thing strange, we should have been there 531 00:29:11,166 --> 00:29:13,291 -two years ago, five years ago. -Man: Right. 532 00:29:13,375 --> 00:29:16,000 Tina Brown: One of the biggest flaws in so many fashion people 533 00:29:16,083 --> 00:29:18,834 is that they're brilliant, they're clever, they have beautiful ideas, 534 00:29:18,917 --> 00:29:20,750 but they really don't have any business sense. 535 00:29:20,834 --> 00:29:24,166 He clearly has an extraordinary business acumen, as well. 536 00:29:25,625 --> 00:29:28,333 Jerry Lauren: Ralph knew exactly what he was doing. 537 00:29:28,417 --> 00:29:30,250 He had a sixth sense 538 00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:33,250 to know what the world needs. 539 00:29:33,333 --> 00:29:36,208 -I don't think so. -Ralph: I'm in the business of fashion. 540 00:29:36,291 --> 00:29:40,250 It sounds like a frivolous thing, and it's not important. 541 00:29:40,333 --> 00:29:45,166 But I think it's important that people express who they are. 542 00:29:45,250 --> 00:29:46,583 Oh, no, no, no, no. 543 00:29:46,667 --> 00:29:50,333 Anna Wintour: Fashion has to be desirable, and... 544 00:29:50,417 --> 00:29:54,041 give somebody some kind of emotional reaction to it. 545 00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:56,125 And, and Ralph sees that, and understands that, 546 00:29:56,208 --> 00:29:59,792 and he, he gives them the, the, the whole package. 547 00:29:59,875 --> 00:30:03,291 (applauding) 548 00:30:03,375 --> 00:30:07,458 Birrittella: He always looked at clothes in a cinematic way. 549 00:30:07,542 --> 00:30:10,417 How they created a character. 550 00:30:12,333 --> 00:30:13,834 What they said. 551 00:30:13,917 --> 00:30:16,917 What images they conjured up. 552 00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:20,250 What moods. 553 00:30:20,333 --> 00:30:22,959 Thinking about the man 554 00:30:23,041 --> 00:30:25,834 as a character in his own movie. 555 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:32,667 Anytime I've ever tried to find a tweed jacket, 556 00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:35,667 or a hacking jacket, or a specific type of trench coat, 557 00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:37,834 you know, like, Rick's trench coat from Casablanca , 558 00:30:37,917 --> 00:30:40,458 or his white dinner jacket, double-breasted dinner jacket, 559 00:30:40,542 --> 00:30:42,000 it doesn't exist anywhere. 560 00:30:42,083 --> 00:30:44,250 And then you'll walk into a Ralph Lauren boutique, 561 00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:46,917 and you're like, "Oh, my God, he's made it." 562 00:30:47,792 --> 00:30:51,250 These are Ralph Lauren pants, and, you know, 563 00:30:51,333 --> 00:30:53,458 he has the kind of things I like. 564 00:30:53,542 --> 00:30:57,333 Tweed jackets, and those kind of shirts, 565 00:30:57,417 --> 00:30:59,083 and corduroy trousers. 566 00:30:59,166 --> 00:31:01,083 But, um, he doesn't dress me. 567 00:31:01,166 --> 00:31:04,709 I'm dressing myself since I was 48. 568 00:31:07,208 --> 00:31:10,834 I've always thought of him as more than just a fashion designer. 569 00:31:10,917 --> 00:31:13,458 Or a business man. I thought of him as a cultural force. 570 00:31:13,542 --> 00:31:16,834 That he changed, uh, the way that we all looked 571 00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:19,125 and how we should dress and how we wanted to. 572 00:31:19,208 --> 00:31:20,667 Mr. Lauren is with us this morning 573 00:31:20,750 --> 00:31:22,458 to talk about what's coming up in men's clothing, 574 00:31:22,542 --> 00:31:24,542 about his own attitude toward design, 575 00:31:24,625 --> 00:31:27,500 and what we can expect to pay in the weeks ahead. 576 00:31:27,583 --> 00:31:29,709 I came from a rural, working-class background, 577 00:31:29,792 --> 00:31:33,709 but I was ambitious, and I didn't want to wear the same suits my father wore. 578 00:31:33,792 --> 00:31:35,291 My father had one suit. 579 00:31:35,375 --> 00:31:37,041 And, you know, he wore it for everything. 580 00:31:37,125 --> 00:31:39,000 But even the best-dressed guys in town 581 00:31:39,083 --> 00:31:41,000 were all in old men's suits, 582 00:31:41,083 --> 00:31:42,375 and I didn't want to do that. 583 00:31:42,458 --> 00:31:43,875 But there were no other choices for us. 584 00:31:43,959 --> 00:31:47,000 And then suddenly, there was this guy Ralph Lauren. 585 00:31:47,083 --> 00:31:49,291 Ralph: There's an attitude about clothes today 586 00:31:49,375 --> 00:31:51,208 that is much more relaxed, 587 00:31:51,291 --> 00:31:53,333 and unfashionable fashion. 588 00:31:53,417 --> 00:31:54,959 And my role, 589 00:31:55,041 --> 00:31:57,542 in terms of what I've believed in and what I wear, 590 00:31:57,625 --> 00:32:00,375 is that I don't really want to look like a fashion plate... 591 00:32:00,458 --> 00:32:02,834 I remember talking to certain people. 592 00:32:02,917 --> 00:32:05,917 They'd say, "Ralph, I'd love to wear what you're wearing, but I can't. 593 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,208 "I, I, I don't know. 594 00:32:08,291 --> 00:32:10,291 "It's not me. I'm-- I like the jeans, 595 00:32:10,375 --> 00:32:12,959 and I like the cowboy boots and the tweed jacket." 596 00:32:13,041 --> 00:32:15,792 Now every guy I know has tweeds, and jeans, 597 00:32:15,875 --> 00:32:17,834 and cowboy boots. 598 00:32:20,667 --> 00:32:24,291 I think Western clothes are as traditional as a tweed jacket. 599 00:32:24,375 --> 00:32:27,208 And I love things that are not fashion. 600 00:32:27,291 --> 00:32:31,583 I love things that have a sense of, of aging. 601 00:32:31,667 --> 00:32:34,625 Have a background of lifestyle behind it. 602 00:32:36,709 --> 00:32:39,458 What I feel I've given is a certain romantic 603 00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:41,458 fantasy to the clothes. 604 00:32:41,542 --> 00:32:44,417 Wei Koh: He finds beauty in every aspect of American culture, 605 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:47,166 whether it be Native American, whether it be cowboy. 606 00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:49,625 Whether it's, the, you know, Ivy League culture. 607 00:32:49,709 --> 00:32:53,291 And he finds the sort of nobility, in each of those. 608 00:32:53,375 --> 00:32:55,125 And he created the best possible versions, 609 00:32:55,208 --> 00:32:57,375 the idealized versions of the clothing. 610 00:33:01,333 --> 00:33:03,375 Ralph Lauren democratized 611 00:33:03,458 --> 00:33:05,792 the whole idea of what was stylish. 612 00:33:05,875 --> 00:33:08,625 And that's the story of America. 613 00:33:08,709 --> 00:33:10,458 He was the first one to say, 614 00:33:10,542 --> 00:33:14,000 "No, you know, I think the guy that is the G.I., 615 00:33:14,083 --> 00:33:16,041 "or the guy that is the cowboy, 616 00:33:16,125 --> 00:33:17,917 "or the guy that's the working man, 617 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,250 he could be just as cool as an aristocrat." 618 00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:27,333 Woody Allen: The key to his success 619 00:33:27,417 --> 00:33:30,542 is an instinctive understanding 620 00:33:30,625 --> 00:33:36,458 that his taste spoke for millions and millions of people. 621 00:33:38,542 --> 00:33:41,250 It wasn't trying to figure out what they like. 622 00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:43,667 It was what he liked. 623 00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:45,458 And he was betting 624 00:33:45,542 --> 00:33:47,625 that what he liked, they would like. 625 00:33:47,709 --> 00:33:50,917 And he was very, very right. 626 00:33:52,041 --> 00:33:54,000 Judith Thurman: You think Ralph Lauren Polo. 627 00:33:54,083 --> 00:33:55,500 That's what you think: Polo. 628 00:33:55,583 --> 00:33:58,875 The most exclusive, kingly sport that there is. 629 00:33:58,959 --> 00:34:00,458 That requires you to own horses, 630 00:34:00,542 --> 00:34:02,667 to know how to ride them. 631 00:34:02,750 --> 00:34:04,542 Ralph Lauren Polo. 632 00:34:04,625 --> 00:34:07,208 Uh, it wouldn't be Ralph Lifshitz Polo. 633 00:34:07,291 --> 00:34:09,041 That wouldn't work. 634 00:34:09,125 --> 00:34:11,458 Jerry Lauren: A lot of people thought that Ralph had changed his name 635 00:34:11,542 --> 00:34:14,250 'cause he wanted it to be more WASP-y. 636 00:34:14,333 --> 00:34:16,542 Absolutely not true. 637 00:34:16,625 --> 00:34:18,750 Aha! 638 00:34:18,834 --> 00:34:20,875 I am the person 639 00:34:20,959 --> 00:34:23,125 who created the name change. 640 00:34:23,208 --> 00:34:25,333 Throughout life, 641 00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:28,375 having a name L-i-f-s-h-i-t-z, 642 00:34:28,458 --> 00:34:30,709 Lifshitz, okay, 643 00:34:30,792 --> 00:34:33,041 was a tough thing to live with. 644 00:34:33,125 --> 00:34:35,375 Ralph and I both went to 645 00:34:35,458 --> 00:34:38,083 the Rabbi Israel Salanter Yeshiva, 646 00:34:38,166 --> 00:34:41,333 and Yeshiva-- even, even though the names were Goldberg, 647 00:34:41,417 --> 00:34:43,375 and Silverberg, and Silverstein, and-- 648 00:34:43,458 --> 00:34:45,208 and Cohen, and-- 649 00:34:45,291 --> 00:34:48,917 Lifshitz, they still, somebody's, "Oh, hi, Shitzy." 650 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,792 There was never a moment 651 00:34:50,875 --> 00:34:53,792 when I want to escape my origins, 652 00:34:53,875 --> 00:34:57,583 but, I said, "Lenny and Ralph. 653 00:34:57,667 --> 00:34:59,166 "I want to tell you something. 654 00:34:59,250 --> 00:35:01,834 "I would like for us to change our names. 655 00:35:01,917 --> 00:35:03,917 "If you guys would like to do it, 656 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,750 I'm ready to do it. I don't need this shit anymore." (laughs) 657 00:35:08,834 --> 00:35:12,166 Richard Cohen: When I read that that always the reference to his name, 658 00:35:12,250 --> 00:35:15,667 I didn't think there was a smidgen of antisemitism there. 659 00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:19,125 It was like, who was this little Jew to tell us how to dress us? 660 00:35:19,208 --> 00:35:21,875 And I wrote a column to defend Ralph Lauren. 661 00:35:21,959 --> 00:35:24,458 He was coming on, you know. He was becoming bigger and bigger. 662 00:35:24,542 --> 00:35:26,917 And they always pointed out that he was from the Bronx 663 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,500 and his name was Lifshitz. It's a real name. 664 00:35:29,583 --> 00:35:31,208 "Aha." Elbow jab. 665 00:35:31,291 --> 00:35:32,792 "Aha, I see. He's just a Lifshitz." 666 00:35:32,875 --> 00:35:35,125 And I resented it. 'Cause I said, 667 00:35:35,208 --> 00:35:38,417 "No. This isn't something bad. This is good." 668 00:35:39,041 --> 00:35:40,792 And I likened Ralph 669 00:35:40,875 --> 00:35:45,291 to the Hollywood moguls of the '30s and the '40s. 670 00:35:45,375 --> 00:35:49,208 L.B. Mayer, who was the head of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer studios. 671 00:35:50,375 --> 00:35:53,166 Sam Goldwyn, another one. 672 00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:57,291 The Warner brothers, all but one, were born overseas. 673 00:35:57,375 --> 00:36:01,667 You can go through the list and say, "They were all immigrants." 674 00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:05,000 These guys had an idea in their head. 675 00:36:05,083 --> 00:36:08,542 They were really good when it came to feeling the pulse 676 00:36:08,625 --> 00:36:10,166 of the American people. 677 00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:12,208 Come this way, sir. 678 00:36:13,959 --> 00:36:16,500 Cohen: And that's the eye of the outsider. 679 00:36:16,583 --> 00:36:18,291 That's what Ralph has. 680 00:36:20,417 --> 00:36:22,750 I thought Ralph Lauren, like these guys, 681 00:36:22,834 --> 00:36:24,417 created a look. 682 00:36:25,875 --> 00:36:27,333 He was telling people, 683 00:36:27,417 --> 00:36:29,500 this is the great American look. 684 00:36:29,583 --> 00:36:32,959 And how do I know it? Because first he saw it in the movies. 685 00:36:33,041 --> 00:36:36,458 All you need is frame now, and you'd be a masterpiece. 686 00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:41,250 Andrew Lauren: My dad is a product of the movies. 687 00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:45,333 He grew up wanting to be like the stars on the silver screen 688 00:36:45,417 --> 00:36:47,333 He loved the style, 689 00:36:47,417 --> 00:36:49,500 the... he had heroes. 690 00:36:49,583 --> 00:36:51,834 And I think those heroes inspired him. 691 00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:57,458 He wanted to be bigger and better than where he came from. 692 00:36:57,542 --> 00:37:02,417 I think he has aspirations to not only dress the part, 693 00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:03,917 but be the man, 694 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,333 and move past his upbringing, 695 00:37:06,417 --> 00:37:08,792 and become somebody special. 696 00:37:10,959 --> 00:37:13,542 Ralph: Movies had a great impact on me, 697 00:37:13,625 --> 00:37:15,959 because they opened a window 698 00:37:16,041 --> 00:37:19,125 to a world that I didn't grow up with. 699 00:37:23,333 --> 00:37:26,792 Thurman: The idealization of the WASP-y American dream 700 00:37:26,875 --> 00:37:28,417 is a Hollywood notion, 701 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:29,750 is a Jewish notion, 702 00:37:29,834 --> 00:37:32,166 is a fashion business notion in America. 703 00:37:34,166 --> 00:37:38,208 And Ralph Lauren's work is very much about class. 704 00:37:38,291 --> 00:37:41,166 About aspiration. 705 00:37:41,250 --> 00:37:42,959 Like Hollywood, 706 00:37:43,041 --> 00:37:46,875 he sold America on a version of the American dream. 707 00:37:48,125 --> 00:37:50,417 (big band music plays) 708 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:54,291 Ralph: I was always inspired by '30s or '40s movies. 709 00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:57,750 Movies made somewhere around the Depression. 710 00:37:57,834 --> 00:38:00,500 They always reminded me of happy, 711 00:38:00,583 --> 00:38:02,500 make-believe glamour. 712 00:38:03,792 --> 00:38:06,291 Those movies have always made me feel good. 713 00:38:07,667 --> 00:38:09,917 Thurman: Could go to the movies for 10 cents, 714 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,125 and watch a comedy set in a penthouse, 715 00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:17,959 in which the ladies were wearing bias-cut charmeuse evening gowns, 716 00:38:18,041 --> 00:38:21,458 and the men were in impeccable white tie or tuxedos, 717 00:38:21,542 --> 00:38:24,458 and everybody was smoking and drinking martinis. 718 00:38:24,542 --> 00:38:26,250 (big band music plays) 719 00:38:26,333 --> 00:38:30,208 Paul Goldberger: This fantasy of the glamour of a beautiful penthouse, 720 00:38:30,291 --> 00:38:32,291 and an elegant party, 721 00:38:32,375 --> 00:38:35,834 is one part of the Ralph Lauren fantasy. 722 00:38:37,333 --> 00:38:39,917 In the Ralph Lauren version of that, 723 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,375 it's only the elegance and the beauty. 724 00:38:44,667 --> 00:38:46,291 Nobody's drunk. 725 00:38:46,375 --> 00:38:50,166 Nobody's throwing a martini glass and smashing it. 726 00:38:52,792 --> 00:38:55,125 Ralph Lauren has always understood 727 00:38:55,208 --> 00:39:00,000 that people want the world to be comfortable. 728 00:39:00,083 --> 00:39:03,917 They don't really want the world to be full of edge, 729 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,500 and harshness and bitterness. 730 00:39:06,583 --> 00:39:09,333 They want the world to be right. 731 00:39:09,417 --> 00:39:12,583 The brand is there to make you smile. 732 00:39:12,667 --> 00:39:17,959 And to make you feel like, you're, you're dressing the part. 733 00:39:18,041 --> 00:39:22,250 Ralph Lauren is not interested in stirring the pot. 734 00:39:24,208 --> 00:39:27,417 He's not interested in the nitty-gritty. 735 00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:31,375 Ken Burns: In another era, he would have been 736 00:39:31,458 --> 00:39:33,333 one of the great producers in Hollywood. 737 00:39:33,417 --> 00:39:36,250 He would have been able to conjure those dreams 738 00:39:36,333 --> 00:39:38,875 that this kid from the Bronx saw 739 00:39:38,959 --> 00:39:42,917 at the movie houses, and wanted to fully engage in. 740 00:39:45,083 --> 00:39:48,542 With Ralph, the proscenium has disappeared, 741 00:39:48,625 --> 00:39:50,625 and he thinks it is possible 742 00:39:50,709 --> 00:39:54,125 to walk through into the screen. 743 00:39:54,208 --> 00:39:57,125 And be fully in those worlds, 744 00:39:57,208 --> 00:39:58,458 just as he was. 745 00:40:03,291 --> 00:40:06,375 Schumacher: He has built his own world 746 00:40:06,458 --> 00:40:09,166 from a very young age. 747 00:40:09,250 --> 00:40:11,083 And in that world, 748 00:40:11,166 --> 00:40:12,333 the romance, 749 00:40:12,417 --> 00:40:14,625 the allure, 750 00:40:14,709 --> 00:40:16,291 the dream, 751 00:40:16,375 --> 00:40:18,000 is alive. 752 00:40:18,083 --> 00:40:19,875 So it's not a dream anymore. 753 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000 It's a dream manifested. 754 00:40:22,083 --> 00:40:25,667 (soft acoustic guitar music plays) 755 00:40:40,834 --> 00:40:43,083 Ralph: I always wanted a beach house. 756 00:40:43,166 --> 00:40:44,625 You know, and had no money. 757 00:40:44,709 --> 00:40:47,583 So Ricky and I would just walk around the beach and say, 758 00:40:47,667 --> 00:40:49,542 "If you could have any way you'd want to live, 759 00:40:49,625 --> 00:40:51,667 how would you want to live?" 760 00:40:53,333 --> 00:40:56,125 This is such a beautiful spot. 761 00:40:57,291 --> 00:40:59,542 I have a very hectic life. 762 00:40:59,625 --> 00:41:02,417 And, you know, when I get away, 763 00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:03,917 I need to get away where, 764 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,458 where I have a simplicity of life. 765 00:41:06,542 --> 00:41:07,750 -Oh. -Slide. 766 00:41:07,834 --> 00:41:10,333 Baby. Yeah. 767 00:41:10,417 --> 00:41:14,375 Ralph: And I do feel that my family comes first. 768 00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:20,125 Ricky Lauren: My birthday money from when I was a little girl 769 00:41:20,208 --> 00:41:23,583 went to starting our family. 770 00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:26,125 And I was an only child. 771 00:41:26,208 --> 00:41:30,875 So having three children was a big deal for me. 772 00:41:30,959 --> 00:41:32,458 I was so happy. 773 00:41:32,542 --> 00:41:36,208 And it was my job to be the mother. 774 00:41:36,834 --> 00:41:38,709 To be there to support Ralph, 775 00:41:38,792 --> 00:41:42,041 as he went forward with his dreams. 776 00:41:42,125 --> 00:41:46,875 And it was important for us all to be part of his dreams. 777 00:41:48,208 --> 00:41:50,750 Living the dreams together. 778 00:41:52,917 --> 00:41:56,208 Ralph: My children were always part of everything. 779 00:41:59,583 --> 00:42:02,625 We weren't very social because I never had time. 780 00:42:02,709 --> 00:42:04,333 I wanted to be with my family. 781 00:42:04,417 --> 00:42:07,875 So on weekends, where everyone's going to everyone's houses, 782 00:42:07,959 --> 00:42:09,750 I remember saying to a friend of mine, I said, 783 00:42:09,834 --> 00:42:12,083 "You know, I'd love to be with you, but it's summer. 784 00:42:12,166 --> 00:42:14,083 I'm gonna be with my family." 785 00:42:14,583 --> 00:42:16,792 I remember walking with Ricky one day, 786 00:42:16,875 --> 00:42:18,583 and in East Hampton 787 00:42:18,667 --> 00:42:21,166 they have parties on the weekends, and... 788 00:42:21,250 --> 00:42:23,333 and all of a sudden we were not invited to anything. 789 00:42:23,417 --> 00:42:25,583 I'd see these people, 790 00:42:25,667 --> 00:42:28,041 you know, cars parked in front of all these-- 791 00:42:28,125 --> 00:42:30,417 cars going to parties, and going to dinner parties. 792 00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:33,375 "I guess they forgot about us, Ricky." 793 00:42:33,458 --> 00:42:35,959 You know, we, we, uh... 794 00:42:36,041 --> 00:42:38,250 Sometimes you want to be invited, 795 00:42:38,333 --> 00:42:40,250 but you don't necessarily want to go. 796 00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:42,208 But when they stop inviting you, then, 797 00:42:42,291 --> 00:42:44,333 then there's a problem. 798 00:42:47,917 --> 00:42:51,333 Wintour: Ralph, he totally believes in the importance of family. 799 00:42:51,417 --> 00:42:53,250 It's rare to see him out and about. 800 00:42:53,333 --> 00:42:56,417 So, Ralph, in a way, is quite isolated. 801 00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,583 And he has a very close-knit group 802 00:42:59,667 --> 00:43:01,709 with whom he feels comfortable, 803 00:43:01,792 --> 00:43:03,375 and can be himself. 804 00:43:03,458 --> 00:43:07,000 His family and people that have been with him for years. 805 00:43:07,083 --> 00:43:10,333 I think he feels most at home and most secure 806 00:43:10,417 --> 00:43:14,750 in these amazing environments that he's created for himself. 807 00:43:14,834 --> 00:43:18,208 And maybe remaining in that cocoon 808 00:43:18,291 --> 00:43:22,834 has kept his vision strong. 809 00:43:30,208 --> 00:43:32,583 Remember, the layering looks good, too. 810 00:43:32,667 --> 00:43:35,125 How many-- Do we have any more of those dresses? 811 00:43:35,208 --> 00:43:38,041 Do we have any more dresses in this? 812 00:43:38,667 --> 00:43:40,500 Do we have more dresses? 813 00:43:42,375 --> 00:43:45,625 After I had success, it built on more success. 814 00:43:45,709 --> 00:43:47,625 We need more of this. Do we have more? 815 00:43:47,709 --> 00:43:50,250 And I started to believe I can do things. 816 00:43:50,333 --> 00:43:52,291 We need more evening. 817 00:43:52,375 --> 00:43:53,834 And it kept coming. 818 00:43:53,917 --> 00:43:57,041 But I didn't think I would ever do women's clothes. 819 00:43:57,333 --> 00:43:59,542 No, lose the color here. 820 00:44:00,208 --> 00:44:02,959 I wanna see how this could look a little sexier. 821 00:44:03,041 --> 00:44:05,375 A little more evening. 822 00:44:05,458 --> 00:44:07,291 -Because it looks a little young. -Mm-hmm. 823 00:44:07,375 --> 00:44:09,667 Ralph: Like, I love the way we look here. 824 00:44:11,709 --> 00:44:13,458 Menswear is easier for me, 825 00:44:13,542 --> 00:44:15,917 'cause I'm a man. I can say, "I want those pants." 826 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,458 But when I'm doing women's clothes, 827 00:44:18,542 --> 00:44:20,250 I feel like I've stretched. 828 00:44:20,333 --> 00:44:23,125 -Yeah, I need these more sophisticated. -...these, these pants. 829 00:44:23,208 --> 00:44:26,125 -Employee 1: Okay. -Employee 2: Yep. Yep, that's cool. 830 00:44:26,208 --> 00:44:27,834 Let's see it without your hat. 831 00:44:31,208 --> 00:44:32,500 I think you can fix this up, 832 00:44:32,583 --> 00:44:34,792 but the white skirt bothers me a little bit. 833 00:44:34,875 --> 00:44:37,375 Employee 3: Right. It's fresher, right, definitely. 834 00:44:37,458 --> 00:44:38,959 -Dynamite. -Right. Okay. 835 00:44:39,041 --> 00:44:41,083 Donna Karan: He knows the fabric. 836 00:44:41,166 --> 00:44:43,000 He knows the silhouette. 837 00:44:43,083 --> 00:44:45,542 -She looks sophisticated. That's what I like. -Yes. Okay. 838 00:44:45,625 --> 00:44:47,667 Karan: He knows what he wants to say. 839 00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:49,500 They look a little too overpowered. 840 00:44:49,583 --> 00:44:53,125 He's shown it all by the people who are gonna bring it in. 841 00:44:53,208 --> 00:44:55,875 And he'll go, that, that, that, that. 842 00:44:55,959 --> 00:44:57,875 Ralph: That's beautiful. Could be day or night. 843 00:44:57,959 --> 00:45:01,083 -Employee: Yeah, agreed. -Ralph: Depends on what we don't have. 844 00:45:01,166 --> 00:45:02,959 -The red could be good. -Yes. 845 00:45:03,041 --> 00:45:07,041 Ralph: This is very sophisticated. We need... let me see that. 846 00:45:11,125 --> 00:45:13,125 That's good. Let me see that. 847 00:45:13,208 --> 00:45:14,917 Brown: One of the great delights of Ralph 848 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,291 is just this sense that his woman can be 849 00:45:17,375 --> 00:45:21,667 in an absolutely drop-dead, incredible, simple black dress. 850 00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:23,792 (indistinct chattering) 851 00:45:23,875 --> 00:45:25,375 Brown: And at the same time, 852 00:45:25,458 --> 00:45:28,709 astride a horse wearing a beautiful silk T-shirt, 853 00:45:28,792 --> 00:45:31,000 and a pair of well-cut jeans. 854 00:45:31,083 --> 00:45:34,041 I just think that he loves women in a way that... 855 00:45:34,125 --> 00:45:37,333 other fashion designers, really, that I can think of, just don't. 856 00:45:37,417 --> 00:45:40,625 He understands women. He respects women. 857 00:45:40,709 --> 00:45:42,625 Birrittella: Maybe she doesn't need the matching belt, 858 00:45:42,709 --> 00:45:44,083 -or the jacket. -Employee: Right. Yeah. 859 00:45:44,166 --> 00:45:46,583 Brown: He celebrates women. 860 00:45:46,667 --> 00:45:48,500 That's good. That's perfect. 861 00:45:48,583 --> 00:45:49,959 That's a great mix. 862 00:45:50,041 --> 00:45:51,750 -Ralph: That's good. -(employees chattering) 863 00:45:51,834 --> 00:45:53,500 Birrittella: Women's wear really started 864 00:45:53,583 --> 00:45:56,625 because Ricky and I were saying, 865 00:45:56,709 --> 00:45:59,250 "Gosh, those are-- Those are great men's clothes. 866 00:45:59,333 --> 00:46:03,000 Make 'em smaller, because we wanna wear 'em." 867 00:46:03,083 --> 00:46:05,917 Ralph: When Ricky first would go shopping, 868 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,875 and she'd go into a boys' store that had 869 00:46:07,959 --> 00:46:11,542 hacking jackets, and so, I'd put the jacket on Ricky. 870 00:46:11,625 --> 00:46:13,250 I'd say, "Oh, that-- that looks great. 871 00:46:13,333 --> 00:46:14,917 I want that. That's what I wanna do." 872 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,000 Ricky Lauren: He said, "Well, I think my muse 873 00:46:18,083 --> 00:46:22,333 "would look wonderful if she wore slacks that were pleated. 874 00:46:22,417 --> 00:46:24,875 "And put her hands in her pockets. 875 00:46:24,959 --> 00:46:26,834 "And, um, you know, 876 00:46:26,917 --> 00:46:29,250 had a great man-tailored jacket." 877 00:46:29,333 --> 00:46:32,250 Or a beautiful silk shirt with a bow. 878 00:46:32,333 --> 00:46:34,875 Or even a necktie. 879 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,834 He was seeing me, 880 00:46:36,917 --> 00:46:40,834 and making things for me the way he thought I would look good. 881 00:46:40,917 --> 00:46:46,000 And he certainly knew how to do the men's tailoring for women. 882 00:46:47,542 --> 00:46:49,750 Birrittella: The first things we did 883 00:46:49,834 --> 00:46:52,000 for women when I first started 884 00:46:52,083 --> 00:46:56,333 were shirts, but they were made in the men's factory. 885 00:46:56,417 --> 00:46:59,125 He had an image in his mind's eye 886 00:46:59,208 --> 00:47:01,250 of what the collar should be. 887 00:47:01,333 --> 00:47:03,000 And the stitches per inch, 888 00:47:03,083 --> 00:47:05,542 and what kind of buttons it should be, 889 00:47:05,625 --> 00:47:08,458 and what the width of the placket should be. 890 00:47:08,542 --> 00:47:10,625 The tailor would go back and make something 891 00:47:10,709 --> 00:47:13,125 and come back and show Ralph, and then we'd fix it, 892 00:47:13,208 --> 00:47:18,000 and tweak it some more, and back and forth, and back and forth. 893 00:47:18,083 --> 00:47:21,917 The attention to every single detail on the shirt 894 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,208 took an entire day, 895 00:47:24,291 --> 00:47:27,875 to fit and perfect one shirt. 896 00:47:29,709 --> 00:47:31,000 At the beginning, 897 00:47:31,083 --> 00:47:33,000 Ralph would have the fashion show 898 00:47:33,083 --> 00:47:37,542 in his office, which was a living room with a fireplace. 899 00:47:37,625 --> 00:47:39,000 And we'd have folding chairs. 900 00:47:39,083 --> 00:47:42,083 And Ralph would stand in front of the fireplace; 901 00:47:42,166 --> 00:47:43,834 he would talk about the clothes. 902 00:47:43,917 --> 00:47:46,250 So it was very informal. 903 00:47:46,333 --> 00:47:48,291 And he had Persian rugs, 904 00:47:48,375 --> 00:47:50,166 and velvet sofas. 905 00:47:50,250 --> 00:47:54,834 And the showrooms were what would have been bedrooms. 906 00:47:54,917 --> 00:47:57,000 Didn't look like anybody else's showroom, 907 00:47:57,083 --> 00:48:00,125 because it was somebody's apartment. 908 00:48:00,208 --> 00:48:03,834 He just loved the idea of this homey place. 909 00:48:05,250 --> 00:48:08,000 Ralph: First small show, I did in my offices. 910 00:48:08,083 --> 00:48:10,041 And I had never been to a fashion show. 911 00:48:10,125 --> 00:48:11,834 After that show, I said, 912 00:48:11,917 --> 00:48:14,750 I called my staff in, which was two people, I think. 913 00:48:14,834 --> 00:48:17,875 And I said, "I just want you to know that this is it. 914 00:48:17,959 --> 00:48:20,375 I wanna quit the women's. I want to leave on top." 915 00:48:20,458 --> 00:48:24,625 I had a good show, and I don't think I could go anywhere else. 916 00:48:24,709 --> 00:48:28,709 How am I gonna do skirts? I don't know anything about skirts and dresses. 917 00:48:28,792 --> 00:48:30,709 I didn't have enough training. 918 00:48:30,792 --> 00:48:33,542 But I found seamstresses and sewers, 919 00:48:33,625 --> 00:48:34,875 and, on 7th Avenue, 920 00:48:34,959 --> 00:48:36,458 and had the sketch, 921 00:48:36,542 --> 00:48:37,667 the looks of the girls 922 00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:39,625 and what I thought they should look like. 923 00:48:39,709 --> 00:48:42,417 And then we made the clothes based on that. 924 00:48:58,625 --> 00:49:01,125 Wintour: Back in the '70s and '80s, 925 00:49:01,208 --> 00:49:05,125 he defined how the American woman was changing. 926 00:49:05,208 --> 00:49:07,667 How a modern woman was emerging. 927 00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:10,542 And what her needs were, and what her life was. 928 00:49:14,750 --> 00:49:18,458 He saw their liberation. He saw their freedom. 929 00:49:19,542 --> 00:49:23,208 Jessica Chastain: Whenever you have a designer putting a woman in a tuxedo, 930 00:49:23,291 --> 00:49:27,083 you're going against the idea of, 931 00:49:27,166 --> 00:49:28,291 and the stereotype, 932 00:49:28,375 --> 00:49:29,875 of what a woman is supposed to be, 933 00:49:29,959 --> 00:49:32,625 and what is she supposed to look like. 934 00:49:32,709 --> 00:49:36,792 Kristin Clotilde Holby: He just had this vision of the Ralph Lauren woman. 935 00:49:36,875 --> 00:49:40,125 Fresh, American, natural, 936 00:49:40,208 --> 00:49:43,750 um, different than what had been going on before. 937 00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:49,166 I'd been modeling for French designers. 938 00:49:49,250 --> 00:49:52,583 Everything was like a caricature. 939 00:49:52,667 --> 00:49:55,166 Purple-fuchsia lipstick, 940 00:49:55,250 --> 00:49:57,166 lacquer on the eyes, 941 00:49:57,250 --> 00:49:59,250 lacquer on the hair. 942 00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:03,166 And Ralph said, "Wash her face. 943 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:05,500 "Brush her hair. 944 00:50:05,583 --> 00:50:07,458 No makeup." 945 00:50:07,542 --> 00:50:11,166 And I remember thinking at the time, 946 00:50:11,250 --> 00:50:14,417 "Oh, my God. This is something new." 947 00:50:16,250 --> 00:50:19,792 I was so stunned, because for the first time, 948 00:50:19,875 --> 00:50:22,125 it was a picture of me. 949 00:50:22,208 --> 00:50:24,417 A picture of a woman. 950 00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:28,959 It wasn't a picture of somebody's beauty ideal. 951 00:50:35,125 --> 00:50:37,166 Brown: I think if Ralph has one regret, 952 00:50:37,250 --> 00:50:40,041 it'll be that he was not a movie director. 953 00:50:41,125 --> 00:50:44,375 I could see just how cinematic his mind is. 954 00:50:44,458 --> 00:50:46,375 When he talks about an ad campaign, 955 00:50:46,458 --> 00:50:49,458 it's not about just, you know, trying to sell his clothes. 956 00:50:49,542 --> 00:50:51,375 He understands, 957 00:50:51,458 --> 00:50:52,750 almost more than anyone I've met, 958 00:50:52,834 --> 00:50:55,291 the, the potency of the American dream. 959 00:50:56,208 --> 00:50:59,500 (soft orchestral music plays) 960 00:51:08,959 --> 00:51:11,458 Andrew Lauren: He had a very big story to tell. 961 00:51:12,125 --> 00:51:14,166 How better to do it 962 00:51:14,250 --> 00:51:16,667 than to have the New York Times magazine come out 963 00:51:16,750 --> 00:51:18,709 and you've got a 17-page spread 964 00:51:18,792 --> 00:51:22,125 of beautiful people. 965 00:51:22,208 --> 00:51:25,625 Beautiful life, beautiful lifestyle. 966 00:51:25,709 --> 00:51:29,542 Something that is aspirational but attainable. 967 00:51:30,291 --> 00:51:33,083 He was the first to do it. 968 00:51:33,166 --> 00:51:34,959 Brown: And when the ads came in, 969 00:51:35,041 --> 00:51:36,500 it was like an event. 970 00:51:36,583 --> 00:51:38,083 People wanted to see that campaign. 971 00:51:38,166 --> 00:51:41,583 It was as much of a, uh, a thing in the culture, 972 00:51:41,667 --> 00:51:45,125 as, um, you know, the release of a new book or film. 973 00:51:45,208 --> 00:51:48,625 Goldberger: As Polo Ralph Lauren began to become 974 00:51:48,709 --> 00:51:50,166 a national presence, 975 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,250 those ads created an image 976 00:51:54,333 --> 00:51:57,583 that was incredibly powerful. 977 00:51:57,667 --> 00:51:59,208 Deeply alluring... 978 00:52:01,291 --> 00:52:04,834 ...and different from what other people were doing. 979 00:52:10,583 --> 00:52:15,250 Mary Randolph Carter: If you look at the early ads, we would go off and shoot 980 00:52:15,333 --> 00:52:18,083 for sometimes two weeks at a time. 981 00:52:18,166 --> 00:52:20,834 And we would pack up all these suitcases. 982 00:52:20,917 --> 00:52:23,458 Men's clothes, then the women's clothes, 983 00:52:23,542 --> 00:52:25,291 and the children's clothes. 984 00:52:25,375 --> 00:52:27,166 And the home collections. 985 00:52:27,250 --> 00:52:31,208 And we'd create, you know, that world. 986 00:52:34,417 --> 00:52:37,250 (indistinct chattering, laughing on screen) 987 00:52:37,333 --> 00:52:40,041 Birrittella: We cast our movies. 988 00:52:40,125 --> 00:52:43,542 Most of them were not models. 989 00:52:43,625 --> 00:52:46,125 One of the men was an architect, 990 00:52:46,208 --> 00:52:48,792 and was the husband of the fashion editor 991 00:52:48,875 --> 00:52:50,834 of Mademoiselle magazine. 992 00:52:50,917 --> 00:52:53,792 And Ralph thought he had great style. 993 00:52:53,875 --> 00:52:55,500 He had this mustache. 994 00:52:55,583 --> 00:52:57,667 We had, you know, sisters of somebody, 995 00:52:57,750 --> 00:53:01,125 and children of, of these people. 996 00:53:01,208 --> 00:53:04,333 Ralph would find some. Bruce would find some. 997 00:53:04,417 --> 00:53:07,542 Buffy would grab something from her-- like a piece of jewelry that, 998 00:53:07,625 --> 00:53:11,458 that she really loved, and Ralph would give us things from his closet. 999 00:53:11,542 --> 00:53:14,417 It wasn't the normal way of working in the fashion business 1000 00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:17,625 where it was storyboarded. 1001 00:53:17,709 --> 00:53:21,417 Birrittella: One of the things that drew Ralph to Bruce Weber, 1002 00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:25,583 Bruce's pictures were very evocative, 1003 00:53:25,667 --> 00:53:28,000 and very real, and very anti-fashion. 1004 00:53:28,083 --> 00:53:31,500 Ralph: Usually you have an agency that comes in. 1005 00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:34,959 They research, and they give you a look. 1006 00:53:35,041 --> 00:53:37,750 I didn't need the agency for that. 1007 00:53:37,834 --> 00:53:40,542 I knew exactly who I was and what I wanted to say. 1008 00:53:40,625 --> 00:53:43,667 And I knew what I wanted for advertising. 1009 00:53:44,792 --> 00:53:46,542 I needed to tell a story. 1010 00:53:46,625 --> 00:53:48,417 Tim Easton: When I was on the set, 1011 00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:51,417 they would give me, uh, all these stories. 1012 00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:53,333 Tim, this is your house. 1013 00:53:53,417 --> 00:53:56,458 Um, you just, uh, inherited it from your uncle. 1014 00:53:56,542 --> 00:53:59,250 But you're trying not to let the other family members know yet. 1015 00:53:59,333 --> 00:54:02,000 And then Isabelle's your wife. 1016 00:54:02,083 --> 00:54:03,917 Dress you up in these beautiful clothes. 1017 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,000 By the time he started shooting, 1018 00:54:07,083 --> 00:54:08,834 I mean, you really believe this. 1019 00:54:11,458 --> 00:54:14,083 Ralph: I pick the girls. I pick the guys. 1020 00:54:14,166 --> 00:54:16,834 I gave them the background. 1021 00:54:19,291 --> 00:54:23,125 Birrittella: It's not even about the clothes. 1022 00:54:23,208 --> 00:54:27,583 It really creates a cinematic vision 1023 00:54:27,667 --> 00:54:29,000 of a life. 1024 00:54:33,417 --> 00:54:35,250 Wintour: In working with Bruce, 1025 00:54:35,333 --> 00:54:37,667 who is such an American photographer, 1026 00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:41,583 and so much adores the American way of life, 1027 00:54:41,667 --> 00:54:43,375 and family, and children, and dogs, 1028 00:54:43,458 --> 00:54:45,500 and horses. 1029 00:54:45,583 --> 00:54:48,959 Together, they created this Ralph Lauren myth 1030 00:54:49,041 --> 00:54:51,709 that exists today. 1031 00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:57,291 Foley: If Ralph is called out for anything, 1032 00:54:57,375 --> 00:54:59,417 and called out is a big phrase, 1033 00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:02,000 because it's very hard to argue with the man's success, 1034 00:55:02,083 --> 00:55:04,250 it is for the constancy 1035 00:55:04,333 --> 00:55:07,291 of his aspirational point of view, 1036 00:55:07,375 --> 00:55:10,083 and his optimistic point of view. 1037 00:55:11,250 --> 00:55:12,959 Thurman: He's a patriot. 1038 00:55:13,041 --> 00:55:16,333 So he channels all these dreams about America, 1039 00:55:16,417 --> 00:55:18,583 uncritically, into his work. 1040 00:55:18,667 --> 00:55:20,917 And everybody is overjoyed to see them, 1041 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,959 because they want to believe that, too. 1042 00:55:24,041 --> 00:55:28,041 Americans are very attached to our Utopian notions. 1043 00:55:31,166 --> 00:55:35,250 Randolph Carter: We'd done some pictures of just this pristine white barn. 1044 00:55:35,333 --> 00:55:37,166 And it was a misty morning. 1045 00:55:37,250 --> 00:55:38,583 And he said, "That's my ad." 1046 00:55:38,667 --> 00:55:41,041 It just said "Ralph Lauren Country." 1047 00:55:41,125 --> 00:55:43,667 There were no models. There was nothing. 1048 00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:46,333 And I just remember Bruce Weber said, 1049 00:55:46,417 --> 00:55:47,917 "That's one of the bravest things I think 1050 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,917 Ralph ever did in advertising." 1051 00:55:51,417 --> 00:55:54,417 You wanted to step into that picture, 1052 00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:56,500 and you wanted to live in that world, 1053 00:55:56,583 --> 00:55:59,208 and you wanted to live in that barn. 1054 00:56:03,333 --> 00:56:05,041 Brown: I think people have sometimes 1055 00:56:05,125 --> 00:56:07,250 sort of dismissed Ralph as a marketer, 1056 00:56:07,333 --> 00:56:09,125 because his advertising campaigns 1057 00:56:09,208 --> 00:56:11,750 were so extraordinarily visionary. 1058 00:56:13,417 --> 00:56:16,500 Burns: You are not just buying an article of clothing. 1059 00:56:16,583 --> 00:56:18,917 You've joined a narrative. 1060 00:56:19,041 --> 00:56:22,625 And that's very different than what fashion is. 1061 00:56:25,875 --> 00:56:28,709 Andre Leon Talley: The ads had a language of elegance. 1062 00:56:28,792 --> 00:56:31,417 And a timeless, classic quality. 1063 00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:33,250 It was a lifestyle that spoke to me 1064 00:56:33,333 --> 00:56:36,542 as a young, aspiring black man in the South. 1065 00:56:36,625 --> 00:56:39,291 It's a classic statement about style. 1066 00:56:41,250 --> 00:56:44,208 Ralph Lauren also broke the codes 1067 00:56:44,291 --> 00:56:46,375 when he had Tyson Beckford 1068 00:56:46,458 --> 00:56:48,583 in those beautiful fitted suits. 1069 00:56:50,125 --> 00:56:53,125 Tyson Beckford: You opened the magazine of GQ and you saw that. 1070 00:56:53,208 --> 00:56:56,166 It was just like, "Oh, my God. What this this? Who is this?" 1071 00:56:56,250 --> 00:56:59,875 Even I said, "Who is this?" You know? 1072 00:56:59,959 --> 00:57:02,125 Bethann Hardison: This young man comes along, 1073 00:57:02,208 --> 00:57:05,500 and I guess it was just in, in Ralph's eye. 1074 00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:09,834 Tyson had something that was street, yet elegant. 1075 00:57:09,917 --> 00:57:11,417 And he was dark, 1076 00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:14,125 and very handsome. 1077 00:57:14,208 --> 00:57:17,417 Beckford: It was the big thing in the black community 1078 00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:19,542 for someone of my color, 1079 00:57:19,625 --> 00:57:21,417 and my mixed race 1080 00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:23,417 to be in something like that. 1081 00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:27,125 No one had done that before on that level. 1082 00:57:27,208 --> 00:57:31,792 Here is a black man in a $3,000, $4,000 suit, 1083 00:57:31,875 --> 00:57:34,417 in a GQ magazine. 1084 00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:36,417 Wall Street guys were lookin' at this, 1085 00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:38,250 and, you know, uh, 1086 00:57:38,333 --> 00:57:42,166 CEOs, businessmen, were looking like, "This suit is nice. 1087 00:57:42,250 --> 00:57:44,875 This is really nice. I need to go get this." 1088 00:57:49,458 --> 00:57:51,667 Wintour: Ralph, he has always, always, 1089 00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:54,959 at a time when it was not so socially acceptable, 1090 00:57:55,041 --> 00:57:56,500 championed diversity. 1091 00:57:56,583 --> 00:57:59,417 He was one of the first to use African-Americans 1092 00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:03,417 in a very meaningful way in his advertising campaigns, 1093 00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:05,709 and in his runway shows. 1094 00:58:06,583 --> 00:58:09,917 It wasn't a token person. 1095 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,750 You know, "Let's just check that box." 1096 00:58:12,834 --> 00:58:17,375 He would use them in remarkably strong images. 1097 00:58:17,458 --> 00:58:20,792 And they would become the face of Ralph Lauren. 1098 00:58:20,875 --> 00:58:23,333 And not many other people were doing it at the time 1099 00:58:23,417 --> 00:58:25,959 that Ralph stood up and did it. 1100 00:58:26,625 --> 00:58:27,917 It was a big deal. 1101 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,208 It was a big deal to have two people of color be in 1102 00:58:31,291 --> 00:58:32,959 a nationwide, 1103 00:58:33,041 --> 00:58:35,709 or worldwide ad campaign. 1104 00:58:37,291 --> 00:58:40,458 Goldberger: When you can create a point of intersection 1105 00:58:40,542 --> 00:58:42,625 between enough popularity 1106 00:58:42,709 --> 00:58:45,208 to make a very large and successful business, 1107 00:58:45,291 --> 00:58:47,208 and enough creativity 1108 00:58:47,291 --> 00:58:49,542 to make it feel interesting, 1109 00:58:49,625 --> 00:58:52,542 then, then you're kind of onto something. 1110 00:58:56,333 --> 00:59:01,792 (upbeat orchestral music plays) 1111 00:59:16,959 --> 00:59:19,375 Birrittella: Ralph has been inspired by so many things 1112 00:59:19,458 --> 00:59:23,500 that he hasn't been confined to one look. 1113 00:59:25,625 --> 00:59:28,417 Ralph: I'm taking things from different worlds. 1114 00:59:29,458 --> 00:59:32,583 And there are certain things that I love. 1115 00:59:34,041 --> 00:59:35,625 Military. 1116 00:59:36,458 --> 00:59:37,792 Safari. 1117 00:59:40,583 --> 00:59:42,583 Western. 1118 00:59:42,667 --> 00:59:44,333 English riding. 1119 00:59:46,291 --> 00:59:48,709 They're all romantic stories. 1120 00:59:50,917 --> 00:59:53,500 When I'm working on the collection, 1121 00:59:53,583 --> 00:59:56,875 I'm thinking of characters and people, 1122 00:59:56,959 --> 00:59:59,417 and movies and books, and... 1123 00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:03,041 They're all part of what goes in and then comes out. 1124 01:00:03,125 --> 01:00:06,750 And things that I never knew I had, 1125 01:00:06,834 --> 01:00:09,583 things that I never knew I carried with me, 1126 01:00:09,667 --> 01:00:12,125 are revealed as I start to work. 1127 01:00:12,625 --> 01:00:14,417 My childhood, 1128 01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:17,291 growing up and my dreams of future, and... 1129 01:00:17,375 --> 01:00:21,667 everything I've experienced, everything that I've seen. 1130 01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:26,542 The creative process to him is, is like breathing. 1131 01:00:26,625 --> 01:00:31,041 There's walls full of clothes and sketches. 1132 01:00:31,125 --> 01:00:33,959 The inspiration can come from anywhere. 1133 01:00:34,041 --> 01:00:37,959 From an old book, from a painting he might have seen. 1134 01:00:38,041 --> 01:00:44,125 Something in a magazine that sparked his imagination. 1135 01:00:44,208 --> 01:00:46,792 Ralph: The movie Aviator was coming out. 1136 01:00:46,875 --> 01:00:48,875 And I said, "That's what I want to do." 1137 01:00:48,959 --> 01:00:52,667 And I just started to work on my next season's collection. 1138 01:00:54,208 --> 01:00:58,375 I had to take that and build a whole world around it. 1139 01:01:00,166 --> 01:01:02,458 Talley: If he's got The Aviator mood, 1140 01:01:02,542 --> 01:01:04,125 he's in a room and there's Amelia Earhart, 1141 01:01:04,208 --> 01:01:06,458 and there might even be Katharine Hepburn. 1142 01:01:06,542 --> 01:01:08,458 So you had done all the research 1143 01:01:08,542 --> 01:01:10,875 of The Aviator looks. 1144 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,166 All of that, it's all in the mood boards. 1145 01:01:14,250 --> 01:01:17,500 These are rooms-- They are mood rooms. 1146 01:01:17,583 --> 01:01:19,583 David Lauren: He's gathering information, 1147 01:01:19,667 --> 01:01:22,417 and it's very kind of free form. 1148 01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:26,959 And the characters, they're coming to him as he's working. 1149 01:01:27,041 --> 01:01:29,750 It's like an artist who keeps adding a layer, 1150 01:01:29,834 --> 01:01:31,917 keeps adding a new color. 1151 01:01:33,542 --> 01:01:36,041 Ralph: It's like building a statue out of clay. 1152 01:01:36,125 --> 01:01:37,917 It's like you take these pieces of clay, 1153 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,542 and you throw it on and then you start to mold it. 1154 01:01:40,625 --> 01:01:43,291 Randolph Carter: Everything is about a story. 1155 01:01:44,333 --> 01:01:46,625 It's never about a blouse, or a pair of pants. 1156 01:01:46,709 --> 01:01:49,709 Birrittella: He's from the same hometown as Antonio Banderas. 1157 01:01:49,792 --> 01:01:53,250 Randolph Carter: He had a vision of the Riviera . 1158 01:01:54,625 --> 01:01:57,000 Gerald and Sara Murphy, 1159 01:01:57,083 --> 01:01:58,375 Picasso, 1160 01:01:58,458 --> 01:02:02,917 the whole expat American thing back in the '30s. 1161 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,625 Ralph: Hemingway had an effect. 1162 01:02:06,834 --> 01:02:09,041 It's just something that spurred you on. 1163 01:02:09,125 --> 01:02:10,875 So sometimes that's a whole collection, 1164 01:02:10,959 --> 01:02:13,500 sometimes it's a little piece of something. 1165 01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:22,542 Randolph Carter: It just takes one spark like that. 1166 01:02:22,625 --> 01:02:27,500 A picture, a little raggy piece of denim, and he's off. 1167 01:02:29,709 --> 01:02:32,083 Birrittella: It's never a literal thing. 1168 01:02:32,166 --> 01:02:36,792 It gives you a sense about the color, the texture. 1169 01:02:37,417 --> 01:02:39,458 The mood of the clothes. 1170 01:02:40,834 --> 01:02:42,750 Ralph: It's about wearability. 1171 01:02:42,834 --> 01:02:44,834 It's about understatement. 1172 01:02:44,917 --> 01:02:46,583 I believe in timelessness 1173 01:02:46,667 --> 01:02:48,083 that doesn't go out with the trend, 1174 01:02:48,166 --> 01:02:49,542 that doesn't go out with age. 1175 01:02:52,208 --> 01:02:56,917 Goldberger: What he does is take things from the world, 1176 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,375 and embrace and synthesize influences. 1177 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:07,125 He is not somebody who created 1178 01:03:07,208 --> 01:03:12,208 an entirely original way of seeing and doing things. 1179 01:03:12,291 --> 01:03:16,208 Ralph Lauren is not where you turn for the cutting edge. 1180 01:03:16,291 --> 01:03:18,375 That, he leaves to other people. 1181 01:03:19,166 --> 01:03:23,583 You do not need to have an intellectual view of fashion 1182 01:03:23,667 --> 01:03:25,625 to like Ralph Lauren's work. 1183 01:03:25,709 --> 01:03:28,834 It, it's, it-- you viscerally respond to it. 1184 01:03:31,583 --> 01:03:34,375 Ralph: Not everything works. 1185 01:03:34,458 --> 01:03:37,458 When you've gotta pull from your toes, 1186 01:03:37,542 --> 01:03:40,667 through your throat to get this thing happen. 1187 01:03:40,750 --> 01:03:43,959 You sort of have to have an editor's eye and say, 1188 01:03:44,041 --> 01:03:46,792 "I don't think this is good. Put it away." 1189 01:03:46,875 --> 01:03:49,166 I always get nervous when you go on vacation. 1190 01:03:49,250 --> 01:03:52,792 -Where am I going? Back-- -After, after you've signed off on everything and then-- 1191 01:03:52,875 --> 01:03:56,083 Maybe Buffy'll get a phone call. "You know, I'm rethinking." 1192 01:03:56,166 --> 01:03:58,750 Birrittella: We started one collection. 1193 01:03:58,834 --> 01:04:02,041 We were halfway through it. 1194 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,625 Bought sample yardage, 1195 01:04:04,709 --> 01:04:08,500 we had walls full of clothes, and sketches, 1196 01:04:08,583 --> 01:04:12,583 and Ralph came back from, from the holidays, 1197 01:04:12,667 --> 01:04:14,166 and said, "It's wrong." 1198 01:04:14,250 --> 01:04:16,333 Ralph: And said, "Wait a minute. 1199 01:04:16,417 --> 01:04:17,875 I can make it more sophisticated, 1200 01:04:17,959 --> 01:04:19,834 because I don't want to look like yesterday. 1201 01:04:19,917 --> 01:04:22,500 The next meeting, everything came off the walls. 1202 01:04:22,583 --> 01:04:25,208 And he said, "I think I want to do something... 1203 01:04:25,917 --> 01:04:29,083 "cleaner, sleeker, more contemporary. 1204 01:04:29,166 --> 01:04:32,625 I think I want to do something beautiful with gray flannel." 1205 01:04:33,250 --> 01:04:36,625 We went and we, we, ordered all... (laughs) 1206 01:04:36,709 --> 01:04:38,125 all new piece goods. 1207 01:04:38,208 --> 01:04:42,333 Cream, cream cashmere, light gray cashmere. 1208 01:04:42,417 --> 01:04:44,458 Beautiful mauves and pinks. 1209 01:04:48,458 --> 01:04:50,458 And it was a scramble. 1210 01:04:50,542 --> 01:04:52,959 But we believe in his instincts. 1211 01:04:53,792 --> 01:04:56,375 And everyone gets on board. 1212 01:05:02,250 --> 01:05:04,041 Brown: He has created a team. 1213 01:05:04,125 --> 01:05:06,000 He sets a template. He has a DNA. 1214 01:05:06,083 --> 01:05:09,917 Everybody understands, absolutely, what Ralph really wants. 1215 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,458 He's had many of the same people working for him for years. 1216 01:05:16,625 --> 01:05:20,166 I don't do anything alone. I work with a team of people. 1217 01:05:21,834 --> 01:05:23,667 My company's like a repertory. 1218 01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:25,500 It's like a family. 1219 01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:29,125 They're good, and they understand. 1220 01:05:29,208 --> 01:05:31,542 It's a team that's been developed 1221 01:05:31,625 --> 01:05:33,333 with my message. 1222 01:05:33,417 --> 01:05:35,583 You can't do this alone. 1223 01:05:35,667 --> 01:05:37,583 The contrast here. 1224 01:05:37,667 --> 01:05:39,792 -Randolph Carter: Yeah, the contrast. -I think that's, that's-- 1225 01:05:39,875 --> 01:05:42,750 Randolph Carter: One of the things that Ralph has always loved 1226 01:05:42,834 --> 01:05:45,250 is contradiction. 1227 01:05:45,333 --> 01:05:48,583 There's an amazing picture of Naomi Campbell, 1228 01:05:48,667 --> 01:05:50,709 wearing like this slinky, 1229 01:05:50,792 --> 01:05:53,000 beautiful, gold, glistening dress. 1230 01:05:53,083 --> 01:05:55,417 And Ralph throws a safari jacket 1231 01:05:55,500 --> 01:05:57,458 over her shoulders. 1232 01:06:03,709 --> 01:06:05,792 Foley: All high-end designers are trying to deal with, 1233 01:06:05,875 --> 01:06:09,291 how do you adapt luxury to the increasingly casual lifestyle? 1234 01:06:09,375 --> 01:06:12,667 But Ralph sort of forged a lifestyle concept 1235 01:06:12,750 --> 01:06:16,458 before it was thing. He did a lot of things before they were things. 1236 01:06:16,542 --> 01:06:17,834 And that's one of them. 1237 01:06:25,250 --> 01:06:30,000 Ralph's whole immersion into performance wear 1238 01:06:30,083 --> 01:06:32,583 and athletic wear was a huge thing. 1239 01:06:32,667 --> 01:06:36,125 And it really grew out of his belief in 1240 01:06:36,208 --> 01:06:38,667 the lifestyle concept. 1241 01:06:38,750 --> 01:06:41,125 Now we have so many people are jumping to do yoga pants. 1242 01:06:41,208 --> 01:06:42,709 Ralph Lauren got into it a long time ago. 1243 01:06:42,792 --> 01:06:45,041 He saw that it wasn't antithetical 1244 01:06:45,125 --> 01:06:48,125 to who he is as a designer or of his message. 1245 01:06:49,625 --> 01:06:51,417 This isn't a change. 1246 01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:53,333 It's an expansion. It's an evolution. 1247 01:06:53,417 --> 01:06:55,417 An extension of casual. 1248 01:06:56,959 --> 01:06:58,500 Koh: And it's funny today 1249 01:06:58,583 --> 01:07:00,125 that all the young guys are talking about wearing, 1250 01:07:00,208 --> 01:07:02,458 you know, track pants, with like, suit jackets. 1251 01:07:02,542 --> 01:07:04,834 And they're like, "This is what's happening right now. 1252 01:07:04,917 --> 01:07:06,500 "It's all about adaptability, 1253 01:07:06,583 --> 01:07:08,083 "and about expressing the relationship 1254 01:07:08,166 --> 01:07:10,291 with the urban environment." I'm like, "Guys. 1255 01:07:10,375 --> 01:07:12,834 Ralph Lauren was doing that 35 years ago." You know? 1256 01:07:12,917 --> 01:07:15,500 Wintour: If you look back at his history, 1257 01:07:15,583 --> 01:07:19,500 you see so much of what designers are thinking about today. 1258 01:07:19,583 --> 01:07:23,333 Taking these very simple items, 1259 01:07:23,417 --> 01:07:25,208 that you see kids wearing on the street, 1260 01:07:25,291 --> 01:07:28,166 whether it's a jogging pant or a parka or a T-shirt. 1261 01:07:28,250 --> 01:07:29,917 And making them fashion. 1262 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,834 And Ralph was the first to do that. 1263 01:07:32,917 --> 01:07:34,041 And to understand that. 1264 01:07:34,125 --> 01:07:37,458 And in a way, to see how street style, 1265 01:07:37,542 --> 01:07:40,458 it would become the world's uniform. 1266 01:07:41,250 --> 01:07:43,208 Ralph: I had the timing. 1267 01:07:43,291 --> 01:07:45,291 Timing when the mood is there. 1268 01:07:45,375 --> 01:07:48,625 Who are you? What's happening in the world? 1269 01:07:48,709 --> 01:07:51,417 But you have to have a strong vision, 1270 01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:53,667 and staying power. 1271 01:07:54,667 --> 01:07:57,792 Klein: For every good designer, 1272 01:07:57,875 --> 01:08:00,834 the clothes are an extension of the person. 1273 01:08:01,709 --> 01:08:04,625 It has to come from within him. 1274 01:08:04,709 --> 01:08:07,041 And it clearly does. 1275 01:08:07,125 --> 01:08:09,250 And his idea was, 1276 01:08:09,333 --> 01:08:12,208 it wasn't just a collection of clothes. 1277 01:08:12,291 --> 01:08:15,083 It was this complete lifestyle. 1278 01:08:15,166 --> 01:08:17,375 And it was all consistent 1279 01:08:17,458 --> 01:08:19,834 with this dream that he has. 1280 01:08:21,291 --> 01:08:23,875 Karan: He really put the world together. 1281 01:08:23,959 --> 01:08:26,625 Children, furniture, men's, women's. 1282 01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:29,792 The pillows, the sheets, the blankets. 1283 01:08:30,166 --> 01:08:33,125 The duffel bag. 1284 01:08:33,208 --> 01:08:36,125 Margaret Russell: Ralph Lauren was the very first fashion designer 1285 01:08:36,208 --> 01:08:38,709 to design a full home collection. 1286 01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:45,333 Martha Stewart: He took lifestyle and made it... 1287 01:08:45,417 --> 01:08:48,083 haute style. He made-- He just made, 1288 01:08:48,166 --> 01:08:50,959 took simple, everyday beautiful things, 1289 01:08:51,041 --> 01:08:54,041 and made everybody covet them. 1290 01:08:54,125 --> 01:08:56,625 You can buy a whole Ralph Lauren room. 1291 01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:58,959 Every single thing. The hardware. 1292 01:08:59,041 --> 01:09:02,208 I've bought some of his hardware. It was just fabulous. 1293 01:09:02,291 --> 01:09:06,166 Givhan: You can just sort of live this Ralph Lauren life. 1294 01:09:06,250 --> 01:09:09,291 And it's now become the standard 1295 01:09:09,375 --> 01:09:11,375 in the industry. I mean, I don't know 1296 01:09:11,458 --> 01:09:14,750 any brand that aspires to just be a clothing brand. 1297 01:09:14,834 --> 01:09:16,792 Everybody aspires to be a lifestyle brand. 1298 01:09:16,875 --> 01:09:19,041 I think Ralph Lauren legitimately 1299 01:09:19,125 --> 01:09:20,500 offers up a lifestyle. 1300 01:09:20,583 --> 01:09:22,959 I think of a lot of other brands basically 1301 01:09:23,041 --> 01:09:24,625 just offer up a lot of stuff. 1302 01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:27,458 And this, this window right here is not gonna go up to the... 1303 01:09:27,542 --> 01:09:29,333 ceiling. It's gonna have like an area... 1304 01:09:29,417 --> 01:09:31,917 Everything that I have done 1305 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,000 has been from my vision of what I would like. 1306 01:09:35,083 --> 01:09:38,000 What do I like for my kids? What do I like for my wife? 1307 01:09:38,083 --> 01:09:39,291 What do I like for my house? 1308 01:09:39,375 --> 01:09:41,375 It was no one telling me, "This is new. 1309 01:09:41,458 --> 01:09:43,709 There was no one saying, "Do it." I did it. 1310 01:09:43,792 --> 01:09:46,375 Andrew Lauren: All of sudden, he's like, "I gotta do homework." 1311 01:09:46,458 --> 01:09:47,917 "'Cause I gotta, I gotta put stuff in my house. 1312 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,542 I need napkins." 1313 01:09:54,041 --> 01:09:55,917 Every place is a set. 1314 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,959 It's my parents' movie. 1315 01:10:05,417 --> 01:10:08,458 The house in Bedford, it's an estate. 1316 01:10:10,917 --> 01:10:13,458 It feels like you're in England. 1317 01:10:15,166 --> 01:10:19,166 And then they found a beautiful place in Colorado. 1318 01:10:24,583 --> 01:10:27,166 The beach house in Montauk. 1319 01:10:30,291 --> 01:10:32,333 And an apartment in New York. 1320 01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:38,250 And then, Jamaica. 1321 01:10:44,125 --> 01:10:48,333 Ralph: The beach, western, English. 1322 01:10:48,417 --> 01:10:50,792 They conjure up houses. 1323 01:10:50,875 --> 01:10:52,875 They conjure up furniture. 1324 01:10:52,959 --> 01:10:55,375 I've taken cowboy boots, 1325 01:10:55,458 --> 01:10:56,917 and I made them into chairs 1326 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,250 on my ranch. 1327 01:10:58,333 --> 01:11:01,917 David Lauren: These homes, they're fuel for him. 1328 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,291 In these homes, he finds inspiration. 1329 01:11:05,542 --> 01:11:07,875 Dylan Lauren: My dad can dream up 1330 01:11:07,959 --> 01:11:09,583 these lifestyles, 1331 01:11:09,667 --> 01:11:11,917 and create an aesthetic in his surroundings. 1332 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,125 It's, it's an emotional thing. 1333 01:11:14,208 --> 01:11:16,792 If I come out West and I have a dream about 1334 01:11:16,875 --> 01:11:18,959 what these cabins are gonna look like. 1335 01:11:19,041 --> 01:11:21,041 Well, if I'm gonna make a cabin, 1336 01:11:21,125 --> 01:11:23,083 I want it to have a squeaky door. 1337 01:11:23,166 --> 01:11:25,625 Randolph Carter: He feels like things get better with age. 1338 01:11:25,709 --> 01:11:28,750 So he brings things from the past into the future. 1339 01:11:28,834 --> 01:11:30,625 You could open a cupboard and find 1340 01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:32,583 an amazing stereo system inside. 1341 01:11:32,667 --> 01:11:36,041 But the old paint's still there. 1342 01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:39,250 He's timeless. 1343 01:11:39,333 --> 01:11:41,875 But he's definitely 1344 01:11:41,959 --> 01:11:43,333 living in the now. 1345 01:11:45,375 --> 01:11:46,834 With Ralph Lauren, 1346 01:11:46,917 --> 01:11:50,083 while the mythology does indeed 1347 01:11:50,166 --> 01:11:52,667 kind of meld into the reality, 1348 01:11:52,750 --> 01:11:55,458 it's because the mythology comes from the reality. 1349 01:12:00,041 --> 01:12:04,875 Most of us will never be on a thousand-acre Colorado ranch. 1350 01:12:04,959 --> 01:12:07,709 But you can experience all of it 1351 01:12:07,792 --> 01:12:09,583 through Ralph Lauren. 1352 01:12:10,792 --> 01:12:13,709 (upbeat orchestral music plays) 1353 01:12:18,083 --> 01:12:20,041 Look at those trees. 1354 01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:29,375 Sheila Metzner: Just looking at his life, and his work, 1355 01:12:29,458 --> 01:12:31,583 they're one. 1356 01:12:31,667 --> 01:12:33,834 It's completely 1357 01:12:33,917 --> 01:12:35,291 autobiographical. 1358 01:12:35,375 --> 01:12:38,250 He's completely sharing his interests, 1359 01:12:38,333 --> 01:12:39,709 and his life, 1360 01:12:39,792 --> 01:12:41,583 and it's positive. 1361 01:12:42,667 --> 01:12:46,834 Does art imitate life? 1362 01:12:46,917 --> 01:12:49,333 Or does life imitate art? 1363 01:12:49,417 --> 01:12:53,000 With Ralph, there's no separation. 1364 01:12:53,083 --> 01:12:54,917 (indistinct chattering) 1365 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,500 Ralph: I'm that guy in the movie. 1366 01:12:57,583 --> 01:13:00,667 And my wife is the girl in the movie. 1367 01:13:00,750 --> 01:13:03,291 It starts out with a fantasy. A dream. 1368 01:13:03,375 --> 01:13:06,917 And it ends up as part of your life. 1369 01:13:10,959 --> 01:13:14,208 When you're out West, you think about the trees and the colors, 1370 01:13:14,291 --> 01:13:16,583 architecture, and the plains. 1371 01:13:16,667 --> 01:13:19,542 They're inspiring to me. 1372 01:13:19,625 --> 01:13:21,125 David Lauren: When he's in Colorado, 1373 01:13:21,208 --> 01:13:25,625 and he's coming down from a long year of hard work, 1374 01:13:25,709 --> 01:13:28,667 he gets out there, and he just sits down, 1375 01:13:28,750 --> 01:13:30,417 and he looks at the mountains. 1376 01:13:32,125 --> 01:13:34,166 He has a quietness about him. 1377 01:13:34,250 --> 01:13:36,625 but it's almost because he's absorbing everything 1378 01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:38,375 and he's listening a lot. 1379 01:13:39,250 --> 01:13:43,000 You know, my dad's like a real, down-to-earth family guy. 1380 01:13:43,834 --> 01:13:47,083 -Okay. -All right, so here's the question... 1381 01:13:47,166 --> 01:13:49,458 You know, when we're together, we're watching movies, 1382 01:13:49,542 --> 01:13:52,458 we're, you know, hanging out, having hamburgers and hotdogs. 1383 01:13:52,542 --> 01:13:54,417 -David Lauren: No, this is fun. -Whoo! 1384 01:13:54,500 --> 01:13:58,041 Andrew Lauren: We have a very tight-knit family 1385 01:13:58,125 --> 01:14:01,166 that stayed together and played together. 1386 01:14:01,250 --> 01:14:03,125 Dylan Lauren: Nice shot! 1387 01:14:03,208 --> 01:14:06,834 -He's sizing up the competition. -David Lauren: My dad is loose and easy. 1388 01:14:06,917 --> 01:14:08,750 And he's funny. 1389 01:14:08,834 --> 01:14:11,125 He puts on a pair of sunglasses, 1390 01:14:11,208 --> 01:14:15,542 he gets in a car, and a character starts to emerge. 1391 01:14:17,083 --> 01:14:21,083 (Frank Sinatra singing "I've Got the World on a String") 1392 01:14:21,166 --> 01:14:26,458 ♪ I've got the world on a string ♪ 1393 01:14:26,542 --> 01:14:30,208 ♪ Sittin' on a rainbow ♪ 1394 01:14:31,417 --> 01:14:33,125 Andrew Lauren: And, you know, he'll be dressed 1395 01:14:33,208 --> 01:14:35,375 according to the car, and the color. 1396 01:14:35,458 --> 01:14:37,750 And the look, and the lifestyle. 1397 01:14:37,834 --> 01:14:40,125 ♪ What a world ♪ 1398 01:14:40,208 --> 01:14:42,542 ♪ What a life, I'm in love ♪ 1399 01:14:44,750 --> 01:14:47,458 Andrew Lauren: We'd go for a long drive and then we'd come home. 1400 01:14:47,542 --> 01:14:49,750 And he would squeeze the orange juice. 1401 01:14:49,834 --> 01:14:51,458 My mom would make the pancakes. 1402 01:14:51,542 --> 01:14:53,959 And then, uh, we'd put on Sinatra. 1403 01:14:54,041 --> 01:14:56,125 He'd start singing with a wooden spoon. 1404 01:14:56,208 --> 01:14:58,792 ♪ Can't you see I'm in love ♪ 1405 01:14:58,875 --> 01:15:01,250 Andrew Lauren: You know, for a few seconds, you think, 1406 01:15:01,333 --> 01:15:03,458 "Ol' Blue Eyes" is in the room. 1407 01:15:03,542 --> 01:15:05,458 ♪ As long as I hold the string ♪ 1408 01:15:05,542 --> 01:15:07,792 Dylan Lauren: Whenever he puts on his white tuxedo, 1409 01:15:07,875 --> 01:15:09,166 his dinner jacket, 1410 01:15:09,250 --> 01:15:11,667 he is Frank Sinatra. He's Cary Grant. 1411 01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:13,834 And he gets out there, and he, you know, 1412 01:15:13,917 --> 01:15:15,291 he has these moves. 1413 01:15:15,375 --> 01:15:18,166 And when we dance, he's spinning me around, 1414 01:15:18,250 --> 01:15:19,750 like we're Fred and Ginger. 1415 01:15:19,834 --> 01:15:22,000 ♪ Sittin' on a rainbow ♪ 1416 01:15:22,083 --> 01:15:23,709 Dylan Lauren: He really knows how to work it 1417 01:15:23,792 --> 01:15:25,208 and become the personality. 1418 01:15:25,291 --> 01:15:27,250 ♪ What a world, what a life ♪ 1419 01:15:27,333 --> 01:15:29,458 My name is Bond. 1420 01:15:30,291 --> 01:15:32,333 James Bond! Aah. Aah! 1421 01:15:32,417 --> 01:15:35,750 -(laughs) -♪ I got the world on a string ♪ 1422 01:15:35,834 --> 01:15:37,333 ♪ Sittin' on a rainbow ♪ 1423 01:15:37,417 --> 01:15:39,458 Dylan Lauren: He is very playful 1424 01:15:39,542 --> 01:15:42,208 when he's in a crowd that he is close to. 1425 01:15:42,291 --> 01:15:44,417 ♪ What a world ♪ 1426 01:15:45,500 --> 01:15:49,500 ♪ Man, this is the life ♪ 1427 01:15:49,583 --> 01:15:51,250 ♪ Hey now ♪ 1428 01:15:51,917 --> 01:15:56,959 ♪ I'm so in love ♪ 1429 01:16:04,792 --> 01:16:06,458 (engine revving) 1430 01:16:11,291 --> 01:16:13,125 Brown: Ralph always, I think, 1431 01:16:13,208 --> 01:16:15,542 identified with Steve McQueen. 1432 01:16:15,625 --> 01:16:18,583 That was The Wild Bunch part of Ralph. 1433 01:16:19,125 --> 01:16:20,709 But I think his real, kind of, 1434 01:16:20,792 --> 01:16:22,917 soul hero was always Cary Grant. 1435 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,041 Diane von Furstenberg: Ralph Lauren always wanted to be Paul Newman. 1436 01:16:26,125 --> 01:16:28,417 And always wanted to be a cowboy. 1437 01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:31,250 Karl Lagerfeld: He looks good as a cowboy. 1438 01:16:31,333 --> 01:16:32,750 I like, for him. 1439 01:16:32,834 --> 01:16:35,333 I would be ridiculous. He's not. 1440 01:16:38,417 --> 01:16:41,166 Allen: Ralph gets to play Ralph Lauren. 1441 01:16:42,917 --> 01:16:45,583 And Ralph is exactly what he wants to play. 1442 01:16:45,667 --> 01:16:47,583 He's good-looking. He's a hero. 1443 01:16:47,667 --> 01:16:50,959 He can wear any of that stuff. 1444 01:16:51,041 --> 01:16:52,542 The evening clothes, 1445 01:16:52,625 --> 01:16:54,583 or the cowboy clothes. 1446 01:16:54,667 --> 01:16:56,500 And he looks great. 1447 01:16:56,583 --> 01:16:58,250 Stewart: He's a handsome man. 1448 01:16:58,333 --> 01:17:00,250 He photographs very well. 1449 01:17:00,333 --> 01:17:03,000 He's it. He's Ralph Lauren. 1450 01:17:03,083 --> 01:17:05,667 And he's the face of the brand. 1451 01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:08,000 Andrew Lauren: Looking back at those pictures, 1452 01:17:08,083 --> 01:17:11,875 you know, you can see the origins of this brand. 1453 01:17:12,625 --> 01:17:13,750 In some ways , 1454 01:17:13,834 --> 01:17:16,083 the brand is iconic for those great images 1455 01:17:16,166 --> 01:17:19,000 that are ingrained in people's heads. 1456 01:17:20,375 --> 01:17:22,875 Emmanuelle Alt: He has a very strong DNA. 1457 01:17:22,959 --> 01:17:25,041 And this is like, the gift. 1458 01:17:25,125 --> 01:17:28,083 The absolute gift for a brand. Definitely. 1459 01:17:28,166 --> 01:17:31,458 Burns: Public figure who's in his own ads, 1460 01:17:31,542 --> 01:17:33,709 who lives his own lifestyle. 1461 01:17:33,792 --> 01:17:36,375 is also a very shy person. 1462 01:17:36,458 --> 01:17:38,000 And so it's important 1463 01:17:38,083 --> 01:17:40,667 to make a distinction between the mythology 1464 01:17:40,750 --> 01:17:44,375 that he has spent his entire life creating for others, 1465 01:17:44,458 --> 01:17:47,291 because he wished to have that for himself. 1466 01:17:47,375 --> 01:17:48,959 And the real person. 1467 01:17:49,041 --> 01:17:52,375 But there's not that much daylight 1468 01:17:52,458 --> 01:17:54,125 uh, between them. 1469 01:17:55,250 --> 01:17:57,792 (horns honking) 1470 01:17:58,834 --> 01:18:00,667 -Do you like the belt? -Klein: Designers, 1471 01:18:00,750 --> 01:18:03,125 when we were all coming up, 1472 01:18:03,208 --> 01:18:05,333 just thought about collections. 1473 01:18:05,417 --> 01:18:07,417 Fashion. 1474 01:18:07,500 --> 01:18:09,834 Ralph was thinking about his brand. 1475 01:18:09,917 --> 01:18:13,083 No one else thought about that. 1476 01:18:13,166 --> 01:18:15,458 He just separated himself 1477 01:18:15,542 --> 01:18:19,500 and his company from the fashion business. 1478 01:18:19,583 --> 01:18:22,166 Because he was creating his own world. 1479 01:18:22,250 --> 01:18:25,250 I think the thing that had to be so frustrating for him 1480 01:18:25,333 --> 01:18:28,458 was to create the lifestyle fantasy, 1481 01:18:28,542 --> 01:18:30,500 and then walk into a department store, 1482 01:18:30,583 --> 01:18:33,291 and see that it was in this terrible, 1483 01:18:33,375 --> 01:18:35,583 awfully lit environment, 1484 01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:38,500 styled on a mannequin in the wrong way, 1485 01:18:38,583 --> 01:18:39,875 and poof! 1486 01:18:39,959 --> 01:18:41,542 There went the dream and the fantasy 1487 01:18:41,625 --> 01:18:44,041 that he was trying to bring into people's lives. 1488 01:18:44,125 --> 01:18:46,542 I felt that there was a need to create 1489 01:18:46,625 --> 01:18:49,542 and do what I believed would Ralph-- was Ralph Lauren. 1490 01:18:49,625 --> 01:18:53,208 And Polo, in, in, in a much larger scale. 1491 01:18:53,291 --> 01:18:56,208 And I saw this building on 72nd Street 1492 01:18:56,291 --> 01:18:59,125 that has this mansion-like feeling. 1493 01:18:59,208 --> 01:19:01,583 And I said, "This is what I want." 1494 01:19:03,041 --> 01:19:07,000 (upbeat piano music plays) 1495 01:19:16,417 --> 01:19:21,083 Randolph Carter: The mansion was like a big, Hollywood set. 1496 01:19:21,166 --> 01:19:23,166 He could create the world 1497 01:19:23,250 --> 01:19:25,542 exactly the way he wanted to. 1498 01:19:25,625 --> 01:19:27,500 So when people walked in, 1499 01:19:27,583 --> 01:19:31,458 it wasn't about buying. It was about an experience. 1500 01:19:31,542 --> 01:19:35,375 Traub: Opening day, he took us through a store... 1501 01:19:35,458 --> 01:19:39,250 with a grand staircase, Oriental carpet. 1502 01:19:39,333 --> 01:19:42,125 A huge portrait of an English gentleman 1503 01:19:42,208 --> 01:19:43,750 right on the landing. 1504 01:19:43,834 --> 01:19:45,083 He pointed to it and said, 1505 01:19:45,166 --> 01:19:48,166 "That's Grandpa Lifshitz." 1506 01:19:48,250 --> 01:19:51,041 I thought the store was terrific. 1507 01:19:51,125 --> 01:19:52,834 And I said, "How is it doing?" 1508 01:19:52,917 --> 01:19:55,625 He said, "I think it's doing fine." 1509 01:19:57,291 --> 01:19:59,625 Klein: He was the first designer 1510 01:19:59,709 --> 01:20:02,125 to open up retail stores. 1511 01:20:02,208 --> 01:20:06,458 He met with a lot of resistance from department stores. 1512 01:20:06,542 --> 01:20:10,542 Because those people thought he would be in competition. 1513 01:20:12,125 --> 01:20:14,333 He knew, and he told them, 1514 01:20:14,417 --> 01:20:17,959 "Your business will grow because of my free-standing stores." 1515 01:20:18,041 --> 01:20:20,458 And he was absolutely right. 1516 01:20:20,542 --> 01:20:22,208 Foley: Rhinelander changed 1517 01:20:22,291 --> 01:20:26,083 the structure of fashion to a tremendous degree. 1518 01:20:26,166 --> 01:20:29,583 Because up until Ralph Lauren opened that Rhinelander store, 1519 01:20:29,667 --> 01:20:32,709 designer-vertical retail was not a thing. 1520 01:20:32,792 --> 01:20:35,291 And Ralph Lauren had the audacity, 1521 01:20:35,375 --> 01:20:38,750 and it was audacious, to open this amazing store 1522 01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:41,750 on Madison Avenue, a few blocks from Bloomingdale's. 1523 01:20:41,834 --> 01:20:43,250 That was shocking. 1524 01:20:43,333 --> 01:20:45,208 So, a lot of people would say in the press, they'd say, 1525 01:20:45,291 --> 01:20:47,834 "Well, was Bloomingdale's gonna drop Ralph Lauren? Is..." 1526 01:20:47,917 --> 01:20:49,792 Well, Bloomingdale's didn't drop Ralph Lauren. 1527 01:20:49,875 --> 01:20:52,458 They increased their order. They doubled their order. 1528 01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:55,667 Givhan: I don't think you can overstate 1529 01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:57,000 the impact that he had 1530 01:20:57,083 --> 01:21:00,959 on the way that designers retailed their brand. 1531 01:21:01,750 --> 01:21:05,125 It's sort of performance art in which you can participate. 1532 01:21:05,959 --> 01:21:08,000 It's a stage set, 1533 01:21:08,083 --> 01:21:10,709 in which everything is for sale. 1534 01:21:10,792 --> 01:21:13,709 Cohen: The store not only had the clothes, 1535 01:21:13,792 --> 01:21:16,166 but saddles. You know, riding crops, 1536 01:21:16,250 --> 01:21:19,333 I mean, I don't know what to do with a riding crop or a saddle. 1537 01:21:19,417 --> 01:21:21,542 I want, you know, I want a pair of socks. 1538 01:21:21,625 --> 01:21:24,458 But it made me feel good. It meant, "This is my store. 1539 01:21:24,542 --> 01:21:26,125 "My kind of people come here. 1540 01:21:26,208 --> 01:21:27,792 Equestrians." You know, right? 1541 01:21:27,875 --> 01:21:30,625 Talley: Oh, I might like to look like that. 1542 01:21:30,709 --> 01:21:31,917 I might want to have that tweed. 1543 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,375 I may want to have that riding boot. 1544 01:21:33,458 --> 01:21:34,667 I might want to have that horse. 1545 01:21:34,750 --> 01:21:35,875 Well, I don't have a stable, 1546 01:21:35,959 --> 01:21:37,625 but I'll go get the bit, the riding boots, 1547 01:21:37,709 --> 01:21:41,208 and I'll look really snappy. It's jaunty. 1548 01:21:41,291 --> 01:21:44,709 You always have something in a Ralph Lauren look, 1549 01:21:44,792 --> 01:21:47,875 that pivots what you feel about yourself. 1550 01:21:47,959 --> 01:21:50,125 Which can give you confidence. 1551 01:21:51,125 --> 01:21:53,750 Even a Polo shirt is aspirational. 1552 01:21:53,834 --> 01:21:55,166 Rainbow colors. 1553 01:21:55,250 --> 01:21:58,625 Who would not want to aspire to that dream? 1554 01:21:58,709 --> 01:22:01,750 Jason Wu: I moved to America; I wanted the Polo shirt. 1555 01:22:01,834 --> 01:22:05,542 And that as an immigrant for me was what America was. 1556 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,291 By buying a shirt, 1557 01:22:09,375 --> 01:22:12,625 you can all of a sudden be part of that club. 1558 01:22:14,667 --> 01:22:17,625 Kanye West: I needed a way to set myself apart. 1559 01:22:17,709 --> 01:22:20,542 What would be my magician's, uh, cloak? 1560 01:22:20,625 --> 01:22:24,083 And it was the Polo shirt. (laughs) 1561 01:22:24,166 --> 01:22:26,458 It said that I could, like, 1562 01:22:26,542 --> 01:22:29,417 travel from the South Side of Chicago 1563 01:22:29,500 --> 01:22:32,250 to the beaches of Montauk. 1564 01:22:32,333 --> 01:22:35,500 Robin: The longing that he taps into 1565 01:22:35,583 --> 01:22:37,250 is about belonging. 1566 01:22:37,333 --> 01:22:40,333 It's about feeling that you have 1567 01:22:40,417 --> 01:22:44,208 not just attained some kind of personal success, 1568 01:22:44,291 --> 01:22:46,083 but social success, 1569 01:22:46,166 --> 01:22:47,834 uh, cultural success. 1570 01:22:47,917 --> 01:22:51,834 Burns: And so then, it isn't just him speaking 1571 01:22:51,917 --> 01:22:54,375 to the people who already have it. 1572 01:22:54,458 --> 01:22:57,792 It's speaking to people who want to have it. 1573 01:22:57,875 --> 01:22:59,458 And that's his story, too. 1574 01:22:59,542 --> 01:23:00,750 People know his story. 1575 01:23:00,834 --> 01:23:02,083 They know that this is not a guy 1576 01:23:02,166 --> 01:23:03,959 who was born wealthy. 1577 01:23:04,041 --> 01:23:05,959 Um, you know, he's self-made. 1578 01:23:06,041 --> 01:23:08,875 But because his narrative 1579 01:23:08,959 --> 01:23:12,125 has been so rooted in this very WASP-y look, 1580 01:23:12,208 --> 01:23:13,750 there's been this sense that 1581 01:23:13,834 --> 01:23:17,625 everyone in that world has also looked very WASP-y, 1582 01:23:17,875 --> 01:23:20,166 And that hasn't really been the case. 1583 01:23:20,250 --> 01:23:22,417 Wool hat, with the horsey. 1584 01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:25,250 This is actually the retro, reissue stuff. 1585 01:23:25,291 --> 01:23:28,333 It was a little cold outside. 1586 01:23:28,417 --> 01:23:29,917 Always Lo socks. 1587 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,125 And then, you're not gonna catch me without my Polo drawers on. 1588 01:23:33,208 --> 01:23:37,667 Givhan: These guys brought this really rich, interesting 1589 01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:40,250 context to the brand that wasn't there. 1590 01:23:40,333 --> 01:23:43,667 We took their style, and we've made it our own. 1591 01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:48,667 The Lo Lifes were formed in 1988 in Brooklyn. 1592 01:23:48,750 --> 01:23:50,750 Not too many people say "Polo." 1593 01:23:50,834 --> 01:23:52,917 It's always referred to as "Lo." 1594 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,542 We were always into hip-hop culture. 1595 01:23:55,625 --> 01:23:57,291 And the fashion of graffiti, 1596 01:23:57,375 --> 01:23:59,667 break dancing, DJing, and everything. 1597 01:23:59,750 --> 01:24:03,667 And Polo became an obsession for us. 1598 01:24:04,250 --> 01:24:07,625 They look like mannequins from the store, 1599 01:24:07,709 --> 01:24:09,458 how much stuff they had on. 1600 01:24:09,542 --> 01:24:12,125 And I knew how much this stuff cost. 1601 01:24:12,208 --> 01:24:14,542 These guys were wearing like $400 jackets, 1602 01:24:14,625 --> 01:24:16,709 with $300 boots. 1603 01:24:16,792 --> 01:24:18,000 Howl: Like everybody else, 1604 01:24:18,083 --> 01:24:20,166 we wanted the finer things in life. 1605 01:24:20,250 --> 01:24:23,166 But a lot of people felt the clothes weren't made 1606 01:24:23,250 --> 01:24:24,709 for us in the ghetto. 1607 01:24:24,792 --> 01:24:27,041 We were, we were poor, you know? 1608 01:24:27,125 --> 01:24:29,917 And I didn't have no other way of really getting the clothes. 1609 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,417 I'm gonna take it. 1610 01:24:31,500 --> 01:24:34,291 ♪ We don't have to buy shit, take what I want ♪ 1611 01:24:34,375 --> 01:24:36,583 ♪ Everything is my shit ♪ 1612 01:24:38,625 --> 01:24:42,125 Howl: You go on boosting missions with a couple of guys, 1613 01:24:42,208 --> 01:24:45,125 who can walk in the store and come out with anything. 1614 01:24:45,208 --> 01:24:46,834 Down the leg, down the back, 1615 01:24:46,917 --> 01:24:49,500 in the shirt, in the shirt, in the sleeve. 1616 01:24:49,583 --> 01:24:51,750 And when we would come back to our neighborhoods 1617 01:24:51,834 --> 01:24:54,500 wearing these clothes, you look like somebody. 1618 01:24:54,583 --> 01:24:56,583 You felt like somebody. 1619 01:24:56,667 --> 01:24:59,125 Beckford: It was a way of saying that you made it. 1620 01:24:59,208 --> 01:25:00,500 Y ou were successful. 1621 01:25:00,583 --> 01:25:04,208 Because it was so regal. It was so royal. It was... 1622 01:25:04,291 --> 01:25:07,250 You know, it was the, the top of the top. 1623 01:25:07,333 --> 01:25:09,417 ♪ Polo Legend like Manolo went over the limit ♪ 1624 01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:11,125 ♪ The loco livin', twistin' ♪ 1625 01:25:11,208 --> 01:25:14,250 Givhan: When rap and hip-hop embraced Ralph Lauren, 1626 01:25:14,333 --> 01:25:17,250 they were essentially saying that we're gonna take this, 1627 01:25:17,333 --> 01:25:20,291 this symbol of what it means to be a success in America. 1628 01:25:20,375 --> 01:25:22,959 We're gonna turn it on its head a little bit, 1629 01:25:23,041 --> 01:25:27,250 and we're gonna sort of wear it on our own terms. 1630 01:25:27,333 --> 01:25:30,250 Howl: Ralph Lifshitz came from the Bronx. 1631 01:25:30,333 --> 01:25:32,625 He pursued the American dream. 1632 01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:34,208 It's what we did. 1633 01:25:35,166 --> 01:25:37,458 This was our way of seeing America 1634 01:25:37,542 --> 01:25:40,166 further than the last stop on the train. 1635 01:25:44,417 --> 01:25:46,291 -Ralph: I like this. -Man: Black. Yeah. 1636 01:25:46,375 --> 01:25:47,792 I still like this. 1637 01:25:47,875 --> 01:25:49,834 Beyond the glamour of fashion, 1638 01:25:49,917 --> 01:25:53,375 there is the reality of making a product, 1639 01:25:53,458 --> 01:25:56,375 selling it to the stores, getting it delivered on time. 1640 01:25:56,458 --> 01:25:59,000 And then next year. What are you gonna do next season? 1641 01:25:59,083 --> 01:26:02,125 That's what I was looking for. The offbeat thing that doesn't... 1642 01:26:02,208 --> 01:26:05,959 Doing one collection is painful. 1643 01:26:06,041 --> 01:26:08,583 It's painful. It's not easy. 1644 01:26:08,667 --> 01:26:10,625 And my days are distracted. 1645 01:26:10,709 --> 01:26:12,709 I'm not just sitting there, 1646 01:26:12,792 --> 01:26:14,166 designing a dress. 1647 01:26:14,250 --> 01:26:16,625 I'm running from an ad meeting 1648 01:26:16,709 --> 01:26:18,667 to a, to a board meeting, 1649 01:26:18,750 --> 01:26:20,291 to another meeting. 1650 01:26:22,417 --> 01:26:24,083 David Lauren: When you're in this industry, 1651 01:26:24,166 --> 01:26:26,166 you do have to keep pushing forward. 1652 01:26:26,250 --> 01:26:28,792 You gotta get out there and you're gonna be better every season. 1653 01:26:28,875 --> 01:26:31,667 And he wants to get better with age. 1654 01:26:31,750 --> 01:26:33,458 So he works harder. 1655 01:26:33,542 --> 01:26:35,291 This seems like a fashion image. 1656 01:26:35,375 --> 01:26:37,792 Building this company, I believed that there's... 1657 01:26:37,875 --> 01:26:39,583 One person can't do it all. 1658 01:26:40,083 --> 01:26:42,250 From the financial end of it, 1659 01:26:42,333 --> 01:26:44,000 to the artistic end of it. 1660 01:26:44,083 --> 01:26:46,166 It's, it's a team. 1661 01:26:46,250 --> 01:26:47,917 One person can't be the great artist, 1662 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,792 and the great genius, financial genius, 1663 01:26:49,875 --> 01:26:51,583 and the Wall Street genius, and the... 1664 01:26:51,667 --> 01:26:54,375 I, I might be the only guy. But... (laughs) 1665 01:26:54,458 --> 01:26:57,166 (laughter in background) 1666 01:26:57,250 --> 01:26:59,208 What's in a brand name? 1667 01:26:59,291 --> 01:27:01,250 A Ralph Lauren Polo brand? 1668 01:27:01,333 --> 01:27:04,625 About $767,000,000. 1669 01:27:04,709 --> 01:27:08,000 That's how much was raised in yesterday's initial public offering 1670 01:27:08,083 --> 01:27:11,750 of stock in Polo Ralph Lauren Corporation. 1671 01:27:11,834 --> 01:27:14,709 Stewart: Going public just made him more famous. 1672 01:27:14,792 --> 01:27:16,750 Ring that bell on the New York Stock Exchange. 1673 01:27:16,834 --> 01:27:18,709 It's a very exciting day. 1674 01:27:18,792 --> 01:27:20,250 And then your stock is traded, 1675 01:27:20,333 --> 01:27:22,709 and then you have to deal with your shareholders. 1676 01:27:22,792 --> 01:27:24,709 Year after year after year. 1677 01:27:24,792 --> 01:27:28,125 And you're under a tremendous amount of more scrutiny 1678 01:27:28,208 --> 01:27:29,959 than you were before. 1679 01:27:30,041 --> 01:27:31,875 Traub: He had a great concern 1680 01:27:31,959 --> 01:27:34,291 that something would go out of the business 1681 01:27:34,375 --> 01:27:36,208 when it became public. 1682 01:27:36,291 --> 01:27:38,542 And even though he clearly knew 1683 01:27:38,625 --> 01:27:39,750 he could make a lot of money, 1684 01:27:39,834 --> 01:27:42,166 the decision weighed on his mind 1685 01:27:42,250 --> 01:27:44,834 whether it was a good or bad decision. 1686 01:27:44,917 --> 01:27:46,959 Vanessa Friedman: Going public is very complicated 1687 01:27:47,041 --> 01:27:49,083 for any fashion company. 1688 01:27:49,166 --> 01:27:51,709 It places an undue burden on, 1689 01:27:51,792 --> 01:27:55,083 you know, a creative business which is always gonna show 1690 01:27:55,166 --> 01:27:56,583 kind of ebbs and flows 1691 01:27:56,667 --> 01:27:59,458 in terms of how people respond to new products. 1692 01:27:59,542 --> 01:28:02,041 -So that's like the star. -So you got, so you have, Ralph, you have got this... 1693 01:28:02,125 --> 01:28:04,417 Ralph: You may not totally be free 1694 01:28:04,500 --> 01:28:06,583 to express what you want. 1695 01:28:06,667 --> 01:28:09,166 -This is what I want. -And yet shareholders 1696 01:28:09,250 --> 01:28:12,166 invest in your business because they believe in you, 1697 01:28:12,250 --> 01:28:13,834 and they want to see growth. 1698 01:28:14,792 --> 01:28:17,125 I don't know all of you, 1699 01:28:17,208 --> 01:28:18,667 but I would like to know... 1700 01:28:18,750 --> 01:28:20,291 But as you get bigger, 1701 01:28:20,375 --> 01:28:22,792 it's harder to control the sales. 1702 01:28:22,875 --> 01:28:24,959 It's hard to control the design, 1703 01:28:25,041 --> 01:28:28,959 and it's harder and harder to control the company. 1704 01:28:29,041 --> 01:28:31,083 You have to choose 1705 01:28:31,166 --> 01:28:33,250 some sophisticated people financially, 1706 01:28:33,333 --> 01:28:35,250 to help you grow. 1707 01:28:36,250 --> 01:28:38,333 Sometimes it works. 1708 01:28:40,125 --> 01:28:42,208 And sometimes it doesn't. 1709 01:28:43,625 --> 01:28:46,125 Wintour: A lot of people have come and gone 1710 01:28:46,208 --> 01:28:48,375 quite quickly over there, because 1711 01:28:48,458 --> 01:28:51,125 they have tried to introduce, um, 1712 01:28:51,208 --> 01:28:54,291 a new way of thinking, and that's... 1713 01:28:54,375 --> 01:28:57,208 That's not possible for Ralph. 1714 01:28:57,291 --> 01:29:00,333 Ralph believes in what he has created. 1715 01:29:00,417 --> 01:29:02,417 He believes in the Ralph Lauren 1716 01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:05,583 way of doing business. And it's worked. 1717 01:29:05,667 --> 01:29:08,125 And he's, he's not gonna move off that-- 1718 01:29:08,208 --> 01:29:09,709 He's not getting off that train. 1719 01:29:09,792 --> 01:29:11,792 Ralph: I decided to go public 1720 01:29:11,875 --> 01:29:15,041 because I wanted to have a bigger business. 1721 01:29:15,125 --> 01:29:17,291 The whole world was there, 1722 01:29:17,375 --> 01:29:19,333 and I felt like I had something to say 1723 01:29:19,417 --> 01:29:20,625 that was international. 1724 01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:24,583 (upbeat jazz music plays) 1725 01:29:28,792 --> 01:29:31,333 Talley: The first store that he opened in Paris 1726 01:29:31,417 --> 01:29:33,125 was the talk of the town. 1727 01:29:33,208 --> 01:29:35,792 And now, there's a Ralph Lauren store everywhere. 1728 01:29:37,875 --> 01:29:40,000 In Milan. There are stores in London. 1729 01:29:40,083 --> 01:29:42,834 There are stores everywhere. 1730 01:29:42,917 --> 01:29:46,417 Russell: He has created this idea 1731 01:29:46,500 --> 01:29:47,583 of American style, 1732 01:29:47,667 --> 01:29:50,041 and what that means around the world. 1733 01:29:50,125 --> 01:29:53,166 Alt: I really love the fact that he celebrates 1734 01:29:53,250 --> 01:29:55,083 his country. 1735 01:29:55,166 --> 01:29:57,208 It's very relative to what 1736 01:29:57,291 --> 01:29:59,375 his vision of America. 1737 01:29:59,458 --> 01:30:01,750 And, uh, it's very exotic for us, 1738 01:30:01,834 --> 01:30:03,792 maybe, the French people. 1739 01:30:03,875 --> 01:30:06,792 Wu: The fact that Ralph Lauren's international name 1740 01:30:06,875 --> 01:30:10,333 is as important as the French and the Italians 1741 01:30:10,417 --> 01:30:12,542 is very significant for American fashion. 1742 01:30:12,625 --> 01:30:15,000 Wintour: When you talk to young designers, 1743 01:30:15,083 --> 01:30:17,375 and you ask them which designers they most admire, 1744 01:30:17,458 --> 01:30:19,333 and who they might like to meet, 1745 01:30:19,417 --> 01:30:21,875 there's two names that come back again and again. 1746 01:30:21,959 --> 01:30:24,458 It doesn't matter what corner of the globe that you're in. 1747 01:30:24,542 --> 01:30:27,959 It's Karl Lagerfeld, and it's Ralph Lauren. 1748 01:30:28,041 --> 01:30:31,417 For me, it's the American designer 1749 01:30:31,500 --> 01:30:34,375 who represents America and American fashion best 1750 01:30:34,458 --> 01:30:36,041 for the rest of the world. 1751 01:30:37,792 --> 01:30:40,583 David Lauren: When you went to Japan, 1752 01:30:40,667 --> 01:30:43,417 crowds were assembling to take his picture. 1753 01:30:43,500 --> 01:30:46,041 He's seen as an ambassador of American culture, 1754 01:30:46,125 --> 01:30:49,250 and he reminds people of what's great about our country. 1755 01:30:49,333 --> 01:30:51,709 That's their slice of America. 1756 01:30:51,792 --> 01:30:53,750 Having that T-shirt 1757 01:30:53,834 --> 01:30:57,333 is their ownership of United States. 1758 01:30:57,875 --> 01:31:01,583 I think if we have anything close to a national designer, 1759 01:31:01,667 --> 01:31:03,500 it's Ralph Lauren. 1760 01:31:06,041 --> 01:31:08,959 Hillary Rodham Clinton: When the Star-Spangled Banner 1761 01:31:09,041 --> 01:31:11,542 was tattering to shreds, 1762 01:31:11,625 --> 01:31:15,458 I reached out to Ralph, and next thing I knew, 1763 01:31:15,542 --> 01:31:17,750 he was pledging $13 million 1764 01:31:17,834 --> 01:31:21,083 to repair our Star-Spangled Banner. 1765 01:31:22,875 --> 01:31:26,291 It was literally the flag that was flying 1766 01:31:26,375 --> 01:31:30,250 when, um, our National Anthem was written. 1767 01:31:30,333 --> 01:31:32,041 And it's because he got it. 1768 01:31:32,125 --> 01:31:35,625 He understands icons, because he is one. 1769 01:31:35,709 --> 01:31:38,959 Friedman: You couldn't grow up in America in the '80s onwards 1770 01:31:39,041 --> 01:31:41,250 and not know the name of Ralph Lauren. 1771 01:31:41,333 --> 01:31:43,917 He is the classic American, 1772 01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:47,000 mythological, entrepreneurial success story. 1773 01:31:47,083 --> 01:31:48,959 You know, in any industry. 1774 01:31:49,041 --> 01:31:50,542 Diane Sawyer: The official uniform 1775 01:31:50,625 --> 01:31:53,667 of the US Olympic team has been unveiled. 1776 01:31:53,750 --> 01:31:56,125 Announcer (over PA): Ralph Lauren will throw out tonight's 1777 01:31:56,208 --> 01:31:57,834 ceremonial first pitch. 1778 01:31:57,917 --> 01:32:01,458 Ralph: Being able to pitch at Yankee Stadium 1779 01:32:01,542 --> 01:32:03,583 was unbelievable. 1780 01:32:05,041 --> 01:32:08,417 -(crowd cheering) -Announcer (over PA): Thank you, Ralph. 1781 01:32:11,709 --> 01:32:14,500 It is a key to our city. 1782 01:32:14,583 --> 01:32:17,041 Reporter: Ralph Lauren will become the first American designer 1783 01:32:17,125 --> 01:32:19,000 to be knighted by the queen. 1784 01:32:19,083 --> 01:32:22,583 Birrittella: I think Ralph has won every design award out there. 1785 01:32:23,375 --> 01:32:25,208 -(camera shutter clicking) -Thank you very, very much. 1786 01:32:25,291 --> 01:32:28,667 Birrittella: But it was the Lifetime Achievement Award 1787 01:32:28,750 --> 01:32:31,250 that Audrey Hepburn gave to Ralph 1788 01:32:31,333 --> 01:32:33,166 that was the high. 1789 01:32:33,250 --> 01:32:36,500 The high of-- The high of the highs. 1790 01:32:36,583 --> 01:32:39,417 Tonight, we salute Ralph Lauren, 1791 01:32:39,500 --> 01:32:42,125 for his contributions to American style, 1792 01:32:42,208 --> 01:32:44,166 design, and culture. 1793 01:32:44,250 --> 01:32:48,500 And to the way he has added beauty, 1794 01:32:48,583 --> 01:32:50,500 comfort, 1795 01:32:50,583 --> 01:32:52,208 and dreams 1796 01:32:52,291 --> 01:32:53,542 to our lives. 1797 01:32:53,625 --> 01:32:56,458 (applause) 1798 01:33:00,291 --> 01:33:01,959 I think this looks very good. 1799 01:33:03,125 --> 01:33:05,709 Birrittella: Ralph knows what he's achieved. 1800 01:33:05,792 --> 01:33:09,417 But he still comes from that place of hunger. 1801 01:33:09,500 --> 01:33:12,625 He still wants to create and excel. 1802 01:33:13,208 --> 01:33:15,166 He doesn't look at the past success 1803 01:33:15,250 --> 01:33:17,208 and say, "Okay. I'm done." 1804 01:33:17,291 --> 01:33:19,041 Burns: He's never satisfied . 1805 01:33:19,125 --> 01:33:20,542 He's restless. 1806 01:33:20,625 --> 01:33:23,125 And there's always the next season. 1807 01:33:23,208 --> 01:33:25,583 There's always the next collection. 1808 01:33:25,667 --> 01:33:28,250 There is nothing to be rested on. 1809 01:33:28,333 --> 01:33:30,166 And the awards and the accolades 1810 01:33:30,250 --> 01:33:33,667 are not as important as the thing you're working on now. 1811 01:33:34,583 --> 01:33:38,000 I don't like the belt. That's, that-- I, I really don't like. 1812 01:33:38,083 --> 01:33:39,750 -You don't like the belt. -No. 1813 01:33:39,834 --> 01:33:41,917 I don't like these sneakers as much. 1814 01:33:42,583 --> 01:33:46,250 Something is not sharp enough. I don't know what it is. I don't know. 1815 01:33:46,333 --> 01:33:48,959 Foley: He has been able to stay 1816 01:33:49,041 --> 01:33:51,709 very, very true to his aesthetic, 1817 01:33:51,792 --> 01:33:53,083 while progressing that aesthetic. 1818 01:33:53,166 --> 01:33:55,083 Which is one of the hardest things to do, 1819 01:33:55,166 --> 01:33:57,041 if not the hardest thing to do in fashion. 1820 01:33:57,125 --> 01:33:58,542 Okay. 1821 01:33:58,625 --> 01:34:01,333 Wintour: He remains within his own framework. 1822 01:34:01,417 --> 01:34:04,125 But Ralph is still in there, 1823 01:34:04,208 --> 01:34:05,792 pushing himself. 1824 01:34:05,875 --> 01:34:09,583 Always questioning, he's always looking, he's always thinking. 1825 01:34:09,667 --> 01:34:12,333 And I think that he's been concerned sometimes 1826 01:34:12,417 --> 01:34:15,083 that he's not been hot enough. 1827 01:34:15,166 --> 01:34:17,583 But he says very clearly, 1828 01:34:17,667 --> 01:34:19,667 "I don't want to be too hot. 1829 01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:21,667 "And I don't want to be too cold. 1830 01:34:21,750 --> 01:34:23,625 "I just want to exist. 1831 01:34:23,709 --> 01:34:27,291 I want to be like Nike, or I want to be like Coca-Cola." 1832 01:34:27,375 --> 01:34:29,250 And I think he's achieved that. 1833 01:34:33,083 --> 01:34:36,250 Goldberger: Ralph Lauren has become so established in the culture, 1834 01:34:36,333 --> 01:34:39,375 that it could be the object of irony. 1835 01:34:40,792 --> 01:34:42,667 But that doesn't mean 1836 01:34:42,750 --> 01:34:46,291 it was created with ironic intent by him. 1837 01:34:46,709 --> 01:34:51,291 Ralph Lauren does not have an ironic bone in his body. 1838 01:34:51,375 --> 01:34:53,875 He really believes all this stuff. 1839 01:34:53,959 --> 01:34:58,417 He really believes how beautiful the world can be, 1840 01:34:58,500 --> 01:35:01,542 if we would only let it be so. 1841 01:35:01,625 --> 01:35:04,792 The thing about Ralph Lauren's world 1842 01:35:04,875 --> 01:35:09,792 is that it's so benignly aspirational. 1843 01:35:09,875 --> 01:35:14,333 He has really built his entire empire on this idea, 1844 01:35:14,417 --> 01:35:18,250 anyone can enter the fantasy American dream. 1845 01:35:25,291 --> 01:35:28,625 And I don't think the American dream ever goes away. 1846 01:35:31,917 --> 01:35:33,542 (Tony Bennett singing "Stranger in Paradise") 1847 01:35:33,625 --> 01:35:36,250 ♪ Take my hand ♪ 1848 01:35:36,333 --> 01:35:40,417 ♪ I'm a stranger in paradise ♪ 1849 01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:43,875 Givhan: But I do think that it evolves and it shifts. 1850 01:35:43,959 --> 01:35:47,417 And our understanding of it changes over time. 1851 01:35:47,500 --> 01:35:51,667 And I don't know that his understanding of it, 1852 01:35:51,750 --> 01:35:53,458 I don't know that that's changing. 1853 01:35:53,542 --> 01:35:56,792 And I think it's a problem for a brand, 1854 01:35:56,875 --> 01:36:01,333 that I think is so much more than just any old fashion brand. 1855 01:36:01,417 --> 01:36:04,083 ♪ That's a danger... ♪ 1856 01:36:04,166 --> 01:36:07,083 Friedman: His real adherence to 1857 01:36:07,166 --> 01:36:08,875 these narratives of America 1858 01:36:08,959 --> 01:36:12,291 that are core to his brand 1859 01:36:12,375 --> 01:36:14,625 can get a little stale, 1860 01:36:14,709 --> 01:36:17,125 particularly at a time when I think a lot of people 1861 01:36:17,208 --> 01:36:20,417 who have not felt included in a lot of these narratives, 1862 01:36:20,500 --> 01:36:22,250 are suddenly finding a voice, 1863 01:36:22,333 --> 01:36:24,875 and demanding that you kind of rewrite 1864 01:36:24,959 --> 01:36:28,458 how we have thought about all these stories. 1865 01:36:28,542 --> 01:36:33,166 And, you know, this is not a brand that rewrites. 1866 01:36:37,083 --> 01:36:40,083 Ralph: The question is, how do you move forward? 1867 01:36:41,750 --> 01:36:43,959 How do you develop newness? 1868 01:36:44,041 --> 01:36:47,625 And how do you stay Ralph Lauren and not lose your identity? 1869 01:36:47,709 --> 01:36:50,291 (indistinct chattering) 1870 01:36:50,375 --> 01:36:52,583 But I stayed true to myself. 1871 01:36:52,667 --> 01:36:56,625 And some of the criticism was very painful. 1872 01:36:56,709 --> 01:36:59,041 It's like, "My God. Maybe I'm not good. 1873 01:36:59,125 --> 01:37:00,875 Maybe I think I'm good, but I'm not." 1874 01:37:01,458 --> 01:37:03,417 Look how nice that looks. 1875 01:37:04,542 --> 01:37:06,792 I've gone by my gut. 1876 01:37:06,875 --> 01:37:09,375 Not everything is genius. 1877 01:37:09,458 --> 01:37:12,291 And, yes, I would love everyone to love it. 1878 01:37:12,375 --> 01:37:15,917 But I'm a big boy, and I've lived through critics... 1879 01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:19,083 from day one. 1880 01:37:19,166 --> 01:37:22,542 And I think that if I listen to the critics, 1881 01:37:22,625 --> 01:37:24,125 I would have quit. 1882 01:37:24,208 --> 01:37:26,125 Let's put that on there. 1883 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,375 This is my 50th year. 1884 01:37:30,542 --> 01:37:31,875 So think of this. 1885 01:37:31,959 --> 01:37:35,583 Fifty years, back and forth, on the runway, 1886 01:37:35,667 --> 01:37:38,917 saying, "Oh, my God. What am I gonna do next year?" 1887 01:37:39,250 --> 01:37:42,583 We're searching for what's been done, or what's not been done. 1888 01:37:42,667 --> 01:37:44,500 Birrittella: These are the pictures. 1889 01:37:44,583 --> 01:37:48,166 Ralph: You're rolling the dice again and again and again. 1890 01:37:48,250 --> 01:37:52,166 This collection is just a culmination of everything 1891 01:37:52,250 --> 01:37:54,583 that you've always believed in. 1892 01:37:54,667 --> 01:37:57,041 Ralph: This is not about every year. 1893 01:37:57,125 --> 01:37:58,458 This is just now. 1894 01:37:58,542 --> 01:38:00,792 And I wanted this collection to be 1895 01:38:00,875 --> 01:38:02,834 like it was my last. 1896 01:38:09,792 --> 01:38:11,667 People say, "Ralph, 1897 01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:14,667 you don't worry about your shows anymore. You don't care about--" 1898 01:38:14,750 --> 01:38:18,125 I say, "Are you kidding? I'm more nervous today than I've ever been." 1899 01:38:54,041 --> 01:38:57,375 (indistinct chattering) 1900 01:39:13,834 --> 01:39:17,291 Friedman: I was completely, like, boggled by it. 1901 01:39:17,375 --> 01:39:19,291 I mean, I like, my eyes were falling out of my head 1902 01:39:19,375 --> 01:39:22,291 because everywhere I turned there was some, you know, extraordinary person. 1903 01:39:25,542 --> 01:39:28,667 Anne Hathaway, Oprah Winfrey, 1904 01:39:28,750 --> 01:39:31,875 Robert De Niro, Steven Spielberg. 1905 01:39:31,959 --> 01:39:35,250 You know, every American designer practically. 1906 01:39:35,333 --> 01:39:38,166 And everyone was there just to be happy for Ralph 1907 01:39:38,250 --> 01:39:39,583 and be proud of Ralph. 1908 01:39:39,875 --> 01:39:43,417 I honestly, like, I thought it was wonderful. 1909 01:39:53,709 --> 01:39:56,041 Ralph: You're never sure that you got it right. 1910 01:39:56,125 --> 01:39:59,208 You think you got it right. You feel it in your gut. 1911 01:40:02,375 --> 01:40:04,917 But I'm nervous until the last moment. 1912 01:40:10,750 --> 01:40:14,625 (upbeat orchestral music plays) 1913 01:40:40,750 --> 01:40:44,417 Givhan: Ralph Lauren's place in fashion history is secure. 1914 01:40:45,667 --> 01:40:50,500 He represents something that is more than just a bunch of clothes. 1915 01:40:56,917 --> 01:40:59,917 Friedman: It was a very big tent embrace of everybody. 1916 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,750 You know, colors, ages, sizes. 1917 01:41:02,834 --> 01:41:05,792 Like, everyone can be a part of my world. 1918 01:41:10,542 --> 01:41:14,583 He took fantasies of what America should be 1919 01:41:14,667 --> 01:41:17,625 and made entire worlds out of them, 1920 01:41:17,709 --> 01:41:19,792 over half a century. 1921 01:41:33,166 --> 01:41:36,166 (applause) 1922 01:41:42,333 --> 01:41:45,000 (applause continues) 1923 01:41:54,875 --> 01:41:56,750 Wintour: I think sometimes 1924 01:41:56,834 --> 01:41:59,375 he can't quite believe that it's happened. 1925 01:42:02,333 --> 01:42:04,000 Sometimes, 1926 01:42:04,083 --> 01:42:06,083 he's still that little boy, 1927 01:42:06,166 --> 01:42:09,458 not quite believing that, you know, "I am Ralph Lauren." 1928 01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,375 (applause) 1929 01:42:16,917 --> 01:42:18,542 Hardison: That hug. 1930 01:42:19,834 --> 01:42:22,125 That to me said, no matter who's in that room, 1931 01:42:22,208 --> 01:42:24,792 no matter who's shiny, who's successful, 1932 01:42:24,875 --> 01:42:27,834 you always go back to someone who really knows who you were, 1933 01:42:27,917 --> 01:42:31,041 and who you came from, and where you came from. 1934 01:42:33,417 --> 01:42:35,458 Chastain: At the very end of the show, 1935 01:42:35,542 --> 01:42:37,875 he always goes to his family. 1936 01:42:39,208 --> 01:42:41,959 And I think that's so touching. 1937 01:42:42,041 --> 01:42:45,625 Because you know where the priority lies there. 1938 01:42:45,709 --> 01:42:47,458 You have to have a full life 1939 01:42:47,542 --> 01:42:51,166 to be able to create. You can't create from emptiness. 1940 01:42:51,250 --> 01:42:54,375 And I think Ralph has a very full, 1941 01:42:54,458 --> 01:42:57,166 beautiful, loving life. 1942 01:42:57,250 --> 01:42:59,000 Ralph: When I saw the children playing 1943 01:42:59,083 --> 01:43:01,083 and people from all over, 1944 01:43:01,166 --> 01:43:03,917 and the mixes of lives and worlds... 1945 01:43:04,917 --> 01:43:06,166 I mean, I was emotional. 1946 01:43:06,250 --> 01:43:09,709 It was everything that I believed in about life. 1947 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:15,792 Fifty years. 1948 01:43:20,333 --> 01:43:22,250 (birds chirping) 1949 01:43:23,166 --> 01:43:25,750 (soft orchestral music plays) 1950 01:43:30,208 --> 01:43:32,250 Ralph: I'm very excited about my work. 1951 01:43:32,333 --> 01:43:34,709 I feel vital and creative. 1952 01:43:34,792 --> 01:43:37,834 And I'm looking forward to the future. 1953 01:43:37,917 --> 01:43:40,667 I care about what I do and I love what I do. 1954 01:43:42,250 --> 01:43:44,583 You have to keep working. 1955 01:43:46,208 --> 01:43:48,875 I'm living the life I dreamt about living. 1956 01:43:48,959 --> 01:43:52,667 And I enjoy creating my own world. 1957 01:43:56,250 --> 01:43:58,125 But as you get older, 1958 01:43:58,208 --> 01:44:01,333 you don't need all the things you thought you needed. 1959 01:44:01,417 --> 01:44:03,583 You need the good things. 1960 01:44:04,792 --> 01:44:06,125 Warmth. 1961 01:44:06,208 --> 01:44:08,166 The smell of the country mornings. 1962 01:44:08,250 --> 01:44:10,417 And the way the fences look. 1963 01:44:10,500 --> 01:44:12,333 The color of the barn. 1964 01:44:12,417 --> 01:44:14,667 And life is wonderful. 1965 01:44:18,500 --> 01:44:20,583 When I built my house in Bedford, 1966 01:44:20,667 --> 01:44:24,500 my mother said, "What do you need this for?" 1967 01:44:24,583 --> 01:44:27,417 I said, "Mom, I want this so I can have that little house 1968 01:44:27,500 --> 01:44:31,500 "down the hill with a little red barn. 1969 01:44:32,500 --> 01:44:34,500 That's for my soul." 1970 01:44:36,041 --> 01:44:38,709 (birds chirping) 1971 01:44:42,208 --> 01:44:45,917 Sometimes you have to fulfill your dreams 1972 01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,709 to know what your real dream is about. 1973 01:44:52,125 --> 01:44:55,125 The real dream is family, 1974 01:44:55,208 --> 01:44:57,000 children, 1975 01:44:57,083 --> 01:44:59,208 having peace. 1976 01:45:18,208 --> 01:45:21,375 (upbeat orchestral music playing) 145374

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