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This programme contains
some strong language.
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What's the DNA
of a great rock 'n' roll band?
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What makes bands great
is often the very element
that makes them break up.
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All bands, when they first start,
it's us against the rest
of the world.
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This job needs a wild man.
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What makes bands work?
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Don't be fooled.
Being in a band is sex.
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That's the reason
people are in bands.
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Everybody wants to stand out
in front of thousands of people
and be adored.
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Rock music makes you manly.
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How and why do they do what they do?
And why is a great band
more than the sum of its parts?
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Let's hear from
the rock 'n' roll frontline.
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The glory of rock 'n' roll,
long may it reign.
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Tonight I'm a rock 'n' roll star
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Tonight I'm a rock 'n' roll star
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Tonight I'm a rock 'n' roll star.
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We are beginning
with the focal point,
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the one at the front you can't
take your eyes off - the singer.
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Singers, they are the instrument
and the musician.
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A guitarist, you see, the thing
goes out of tune or string breaks,
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just, "Give me another one."
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In fact, the whole band is hanging
on those two little strips
of vocal cord down here,
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which are colliding at the impact of
Muhammad Ali smacking George Foreman.
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People have got no conception
of what the voice does.
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What an amazing instrument it is.
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The lead singer is like a god.
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Equal parts visionary and mad man,
he is the head, heart and crotch
of the rock 'n' roll band.
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Without him - or her - the rest of
the band might as well not bother.
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But what
makes these exotic beings tick?
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What does it take to get up on stage
and pour out your heart and soul?
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What are these frontmen
and women really like?
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Knobheads.
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You've got to be a knobhead to be
a lead singer. You really have.
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Your job as a front man is to
entertain, grab them by their nuts
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and squeeze them really hard
until they say "encore".
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You're out there naked.
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In my case, literally.
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The wonderful advantage for those
with the instruments
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is that they've got the instrument
to hide behind.
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Give me one more chance
and you'll be satisfied.
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To be a really good frontman,
you've kind of got to have
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a mixture of ego and insecurity.
You need a really
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particular mix of those two things.
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A fine little mix of narcissism
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and just a touch of LSD -
Lead Singer's Disease.
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We want our lead singers to be
sort of like superheroes,
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in a way - bigger and louder
and messier than ourselves.
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You're the real thing...
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I don't want him to be like me.
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I don't want him
to understand what I think.
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I want him to be unattainable.
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You've got to have
confidence or arrogance.
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I would like to think
that I was just confident.
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So is the art of being a frontperson
something that can be learned?
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Are great lead singers born,
not made?
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Is the itch to get up on stage
and let it all out for our benefit
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indelibly etched into their psyche
from the start?
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From the time I was a kid,
they handed me the microphone.
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It was seemingly natural.
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Anything to show off
when I was a kid. There was plenty
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of, "Stop showing off,"
round the dinner table.
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I suppose that's why I had the
confidence to get on stage
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in the first place, yeah.
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I wanted it for three reasons,
famously to get rich, to get famous
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and to get laid.
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I thought that was
hilariously original,
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only to find out subsequently,
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that's how Freud defined
the need of any artist.
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When I first started, I wanted
to be it all, I wanted to be
the whole band.
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In my case, I think I was born
to do it, quite frankly.
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As soon as I got on that stage,
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got the applause,
I knew that was for me.
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Others weren't so much born for
greatness as stumbled through a side
door and found themselves on stage.
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I always saw you
just before the dawn...
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We decided we wanted to make
a band, you know?
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Everybody was saying
what they want to play.
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Remembering the
thing they used to say to me...
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I didn't play bass,
I didn't want to play
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the drums, and I didn't say anything
because I didn't want to have to
be like schlepping all this stuff.
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So I said, "OK, I'll be the singer."
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I never wanted to be a frontman,
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you know? I wanted to be
a drummer or a bass player,
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but I couldn't master any of them.
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And there's one reason
I'm telling you this
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I feels bad...
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It's maybe not hard to understand
why some are reluctant to lead
from the front.
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The singer's role is a daunting one.
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Getting up there in the first place
to marshall the troops into battle
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takes the kind of guts
that few possess.
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Every time I walk on stage
and I'm confronted by an audience,
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I have a mental picture
of a Bengal tiger that has
already eaten two villagers.
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And I know that that's what I'm
facing, and I know that if I say
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the wrong thing or make the wrong
move, it's going to eat me alive.
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Getting on the stage is a nightmare.
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I mean, I want to run away. Run away!
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But once I'm on it,
you know, try and get me off!
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It would be terrible
if it was no good.
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You get nervous.
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For me, being stationary on stage
came through fear more than a look.
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Really out of my depth.
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I was a very nervous
frontman, really.
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I think that's why I always wanted
a big band around me, you know?
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I think that's sometimes why I was
so bossy with the rest of the band,
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because I was fear-driven
about my own performance.
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I know most frontmen close their
eyes, and that's the reason
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for the dark glasses, so you can
close your eyes and not look like
you've got your eyes closed.
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And always nervous
when you could see the audience.
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It's always best to work
to blackness, to darkness.
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You only basically see the spotlight,
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which can blind you. And that can be,
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you know, quarter of a million people
there, half a million people, even.
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It's actually more disconcerting
to stand in front of a pub crowd,
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four or five people there, you know,
actually scrutinising you.
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For even the bigger stars, all
that preening and posturing doesn't
necessarily come naturally.
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When Sting first assembled his band
of blond brothers, he was still
Gordon the ex-schoolteacher by day.
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But when the sun went down,
something changed.
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Most of the stage performers
I know are not particularly
extrovert in real life.
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When I walk on stage, I play
the role of the extrovert. I will
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grab the attention of the room,
and hold the attention of the room.
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Can't stand losing, I can't
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I can't, I can't, I can't
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I can't stand losing you
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I can't stand losing you.
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I think there's a certain amount
of self-belief you need
to walk onto a stage.
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That can be construed as either
arrogance or immense courage.
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And they're all scratched, I can't
see the point in another day.
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I've always thrived
on Sting's arrogance.
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You can call it lack
of confidence...
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He's just got a force that
when he gets on that microphone,
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comes out of him, that he
doesn't have at the dinner table.
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I can't, I can't,
I can't stand losing...
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I wouldn't have thought of him,
knowing him as I do, that he is
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the most obvious natural performer,
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so I really admire in him that
he does get up and do that.
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I can't, I can't,
I can't stand losing...
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Facing that lot down takes big ones.
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Lights go down and I go back
to my normal, quiet self.
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It's commonplace among performers
that they are not
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the people they seem to be on stage,
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something happens to them.
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A big part of the transformation
from ordinary mortal
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to rock god happens in the minds
of us, the audience.
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We imbue these stellar beings with
mystique, allure and sexual potency.
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We want to believe in them,
worship them, and desire them.
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It's a chicken-and-egg
scenario really, because
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d'you fancy them because they're the
front person and therefore fanciable,
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or do they become the front person
because they're the fanciable one?
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Sometimes it's difficult to tell.
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If women don't want to fuck you
and men don't want to be you,
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I don't see the point
of being in a band.
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Sex appeal comes with being
in front of a band.
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I think you could literally
have a huge, big, green bald head
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and have pustules
coming out of your face
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and people would find you sexy if
you were fronting a successful band.
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I got shagged a lot.
But that's because I was the singer.
You know, but so did the other guys.
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Frankly, sloppy seconds for them,
you know? I was the singer!
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What we crave from a great lead
singer is not just sex appeal
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but charisma, glamour
and unpredictability.
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On rare occasions, these elements
combine and something extraordinary
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happens, leaving all who
witness it changed forever.
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Picture the scene:
It's 1966 and LA's Whisky A Go Go
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is in thrall to psychedelic
scenesters The Doors, whose singer
Jim Morrison is just about to
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get in touch with his Oedipal side
and take the job of front man
into new, transgressive territory.
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'You got to turn those
lights way down...'
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We're playing the end
of the Whisky A Go Go.
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He's on acid.
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Ah, what do we care?
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We're not,
but we might as well have been.
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This is the end
Beautiful friend
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This is the end
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My only friend, the end.
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Little by little,
the place starts to stop.
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The dancers stop.
The waitresses stop.
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And they're just transfixed on
Morrison, who's become Dionysus,
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and he has everyone under control.
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Jim was not a Vegas act.
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It was not a show. It was like
live theatre or something.
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"What the hell is he going to do
next?" kind of thing, you know.
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This comes out of the blue.
It came out of his head.
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Whether he had worked at it,
I have no idea - and did it work?
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Father?
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Yes, son.
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I want to kill you.
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There's only one place
you can go with it after that!
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Mother?
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We're playing as loud
as we possibly can.
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And he just says,
"Mother, I want to"...
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The place explodes. Everybody starts
just whirling, they're broken out
of their hypnotic trance.
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And it was an amazing moment
that we had no idea was coming.
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We just followed him and he took
it to an absolutely brilliant place.
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Saying the unsayable and voicing
our darkest urges to transgress,
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Jim Morrison was like some
kind of Oedipal stormtrooper.
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He made explicit what, up to then,
had only ever been implied.
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But he wasn't the first to mine raw
sex appeal. That had been part
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of the frontman's job from the
earliest days of rock 'n' roll.
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Back in the 1950s, a whirlwind
of swagger, attitude and ambiguous
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sexual energy was unleashed in the
flamboyant form of Little Richard.
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Imagine hearing Little Richard
for the first time on the radio.
You would be scared, man.
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That guy, I don't anybody's
ever beaten him, ever,
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and I don't think they ever will
as a rock 'n' roll singer.
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Tutti frutti...
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Teenage fans were strangely aroused
by his incomprehensible lyrics,
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which they suspected
were probably about doing it.
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A-wop bop-a loo-bop, a-wop bam-boom.
What did the fuck did they
think that was about? Tutti frutti!
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A-wop bop-a loo-bop, ow!
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I think until I saw
Little Richard...
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I hadn't really understood
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that sex oozes out
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of a proper rock 'n' roll performer.
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A-wop bop-a loo-bop,
a-wop bam-boom.
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Tunes? Yes. Moves?
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Yes. Sex appeal? Most definitely.
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But what stopped Little Richard from
being the first proper rock 'n' roll
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frontman is that he didn't have
a proper rock 'n' roll band
backing him up.
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Not his fault.
It hadn't really been invented yet.
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Skip forward a few years
to the early '60s,
and the rock 'n' roll band truly
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arrived in the besuited, befringed
and bewitching form of the Beatles.
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Not that they would provide
the prototype rock frontman.
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Largely because they had
two of them. At least.
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Shake it up, baby now
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Shake it up, baby
Twist and shout.
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Lennon and McCartney, each
on their own, wasn't the Beatles.
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C'mon, c'mon, baby, now...
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They were very talented, and each
of them did great work on their own,
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but it's only when
they came together.
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The oil and the vinegar. They really
make a great salad dressing.
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They look like they came
from the same Beatle mother.
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They were almost brothers, weren't
they? Same DNA, same haircuts.
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It felt like a complete statement.
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There weren't any front
men in the Beatles, really.
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The Beatles were front men. That
was the magic thing about them.
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There was no passengers.
There was nobody you didn't notice.
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Aah, aah, aah, aah...
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You can trace a lot back to
The Beatles, but what they didn't do
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was invent the frontman
as stand-out superstar.
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Theirs was a band
where the limelight was shared.
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So it was left to a bunch of
scruffy 'erberts from the South East
in the form of the Rolling Stones
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to bequeath to the world that
greatest of British inventions,
the rock frontman.
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I want to be your man...
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The premier prototype
frontman was Mick Jagger.
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Because he was the first guy
that broke away from the band
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on a level
that he wasn't stationery.
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All of a sudden, this guy was
everywhere on that stage.
He wasn't The Beatles.
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He wasn't Paul McCartney and John
Lennon with a mic and a guitar.
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He was free to roam that stage,
and he was an animal up there.
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I was drowned, I was washed up,
left for dead...
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That was a group where they
got behind one frontman,
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as opposed to the Beatle set-up,
where everybody was a frontman.
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But it's all right now...
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If you were to put down
on paper your blueprint
for a perfect frontman,
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you'd would probably say, "Good
looking, great singer, great mover."
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Jagger, in the normal sense of
things, is none of these things.
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He had these huge lips,
but he's got charisma.
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That caricature you have
of what a frontman should be.
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Mick Jagger is that. He's that
strutting cockerel that can sweat on
a girl and she'd faint in a second.
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I was a butcher, cutting the meat
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My hands were bloodied...
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When I saw the Rolling Stones in
'98 at home in Dodgers Stadium...
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how I lost myself, and understood
why women take their shirts off!
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We love you, Mick!
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His singing was an acquired taste.
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Playing an instrument
wasn't really his thing.
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He wasn't that much of a looker,
and his moves were mostly nicked
from soul legend James Brown.
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No matter.
For Jagger the frontman is more
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than the sum total of his parts, and
is for many the epitome of the
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species, blending athlete, lothario
and chairman of the board into one
unfeasibly slim-picked package.
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Showmen like Iggy Pop who have
followed the Jagger prototype
have discovered that while dynamism
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and sexual energy are musts,
that's not the whole picture.
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The great lead singer also needs
to be master of ceremonies.
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A leader of men.
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I am the passenger...
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You're trying to pull
a sense of occasion together.
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Usually from a bunch of...
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sensitive, would-be louts,
basically!
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People who are actually intelligent
and talented,
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but have been waiting all their
lives to lay about and make trouble.
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La, la, la, la, la-la-la la...
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Whatever the era, or musical style,
one truth remains constant.
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A driving force at the helm
is crucial.
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I was 100% the leader and I was
100% the guy who felt responsible
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for keeping everybody on board
and keeping them interested.
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I used to make a joke to one
of the guys in the band early on.
Frontman, backman!
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If you were a bunch of teenagers and
someone else comes onto the estate,
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and suddenly you have to fight them,
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you really want the
best man for the job, like,
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up front in your team, you know?
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You really want your singer to go
out and like, lead the gang, really,
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and this idea that if the roof
falls in and the audience all flee,
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or something goes wrong....
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He's going to be there
and have loads of bottle.
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So if he is the head man, hopefully
with the pre-requisite amount of
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bottle to keep his band mates happy,
what's his style of leadership?
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Rod of iron or more touchy-feely?
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Jon Bon Jovi is a global superstar
who named his band after himself.
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I wonder how it works in his outfit?
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It's a benevolent dictatorship.
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I welcome everybody's opinions.
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I listen to them very carefully.
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If there's something that I feel is
something I hadn't thought of,
I will add it to the mix.
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Hence the band name instead
of it just being Jon Bon Jovi.
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Jon is the leader, you know? In this
organisation, it's very simple.
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That's it. And I'm like,
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the general and the right hand man
on his side.
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Shot through the heart
and you're to blame
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You give love a bad name...
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When I was making some film
I used to say, "In a movie,
I'm the bass player"."
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I come, I do my part
and I'm told to leave.
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In the band, I'm Tom Cruise. I'm the
director, the producer, the star,
the action hero, the whole thing.
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And that analogy, people understood.
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Calling the shots is just part
of the deal with these lead singer
types. In the case of the Police...
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Would we really expect Sting
to just be a bobby on the beat?
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Sometimes, the benign dictator
formula works.
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Even when the dictator
is not so benign.
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In my band, I didn't wear
a prefect's badge, you know?
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But I wrote the songs and I sang
them. And I played in the band.
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I was the leader of the Police.
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Pretty influential in that group.
Was I the leader of the band?
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It didn't matter.
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Don't you know who you are?
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You're, you're Sting!
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They can protest as much
as they like, but make no mistake,
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in the lead singer's mind,
he's in charge and the rest
just have to deal with it.
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No wonder the band mates might
accuse him or her of becoming
a bit of a diva.
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Oh, make me over
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I'm all I want to be...
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The problem with being
a lead singer is
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you're actually at the front
and you're the focus of attention.
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Which is great if you've got,
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if you've got a big ego
and you're a bit of a show-off.
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The lead singer is egocentric
and it's all about them,
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and they think they're brilliant,
and sometimes their ideas are crap.
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But you have to listen
to the lead singer.
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Oh, and half the time
they know nothing about music.
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OK, I felt that idea before.
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Courtney Love of Hole is a singer
who's had to shrug off plenty of
criticism, casting herself
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in the role of frontwoman
as loose cannon and force of nature.
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But what's it like for her
band mates having to live
with that on a daily basis?
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Most singers are exorcising
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a very verbal, crazy monster
in their head that is screaming,
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screaming to be let out.
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And Courtney's very good at that.
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Very good at that.
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With your pound of flesh,
I'm second billing,
cos you're a star now.
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LSD is known as Lead Singer Disease.
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The lead singer thinks that they
can do whatever the hell they want.
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They think that they get
to call the shots.
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You'd better watch out.
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The bass player and the guitarist
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and the drummer all, you know,
laugh at singers who have LSD.
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Some more than others.
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Remember what I said.
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Of all the relationships the lead
singer has with other band members,
usually the closest,
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often the most creative,
and always the most volatile
is with the guy next to him.
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The one who likes to wield an axe.
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The lead guitarist.
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Most singers and guitarists
kind of have a sort of symbiotic
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relationship. They need each other.
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I think they have to really love
each other.
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You have to really respect
what each other does.
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And really hate each other.
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The thing I come out with, which was
quite common, was not only was it
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the frontman, but usually there was
an axis with the guitar player,
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who they either met early on,
or they went to school with.
People like the Rolling Stones.
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U2 were the same.
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The Smiths.
You know, it goes on and on.
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But what I like about the axis
is when there's two of you,
you think everybody else is mad.
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Two of you. It's just needs two
and you've got a revolution.
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And two heads are still better than
one, according to Tom and Serge,
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singer and guitar man
for Leicester's serial
stadium-fillers Kasabian.
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It kind of makes it easy for you
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playing when someone just takes it by
the bollocks. You know what I mean?
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And goes, right, let's go.
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You know, I think that kind of makes
everyone else feel ready comfortable,
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and you kind of go, right, he's gone.
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He's over the hill with a cannon.
Let's go.
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I think Serge is a great frontman
in his own right.
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What?!
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You know, because he's like
my sidekick, man.
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You know, like Batfink and Karate.
Remember them?
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People try to put us down.
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That's all very cosy,
but hardly what history
has taught us to expect.
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Aren't the singer and guitarist
supposed to be at
each other's throats?
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Well if you look at any ego clash
that's ever been in
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any band, you know, you look at your
Daltrey, Townshend, Liam and Noel.
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Guitarist and vocalist
are just like elbowing themselves,
each other out of the way,
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vying for centre stage and the
spotlight. Pathetic really, isn't it?
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You know what I mean?
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Singer and the lead guitarist
have historically clashed
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because each one is under the
delusion that they are the leader.
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That's when tension starts to build.
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They're all fighting for the crown.
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And the biggest dressing room.
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Why don't you all... fade away.
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The dynamic between singer
and guitarist is a crucial one.
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The Who's Roger Daltrey and
Pete Townshend have been jostling
for supremacy for five decades.
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Although during that time, they have
hammered out who does what on stage.
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It's my generation, baby.
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We're singing, or I am.
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It's always played straight
to the back row.
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If the back row was half a mile away,
which it was at Woodstock, that's
where you were pitching the energy.
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And Pete used to work the front.
He shoots them on the guitar.
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He uses it like a machine gun.
And he swears at them a lot.
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It's very difficult
to swear at the back row.
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A power struggle on the bridge
is one thing, but if the rest
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of the crew begin to get mutinous,
the good ship Rock 'N' Roll Band
can hit choppy waters.
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I mean, I always think of a band
as like a pirate ship.
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It goes on these journeys,
taking and giving whatever it can.
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And the role of captain
has a misplaced significance.
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If the rigger fails, we die.
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If the cook fails, we die.
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What that means to me is that
role envy is the worst thing
that can happen in a band.
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Front men get the raw deal
from the rest of the band.
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You should be called middleman.
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You've got to keep those people
happy and these people happy.
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And you've got your
back turned to these ones.
And they're the most volatile ones.
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So all that jealousy comes in.
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It's for nothing when you go,
"we're a team here".
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But it doesn't. It doesn't work.
No matter how hard you try.
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You're paid this,
you're on the same.
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If somebody's jealous, then that
jealousy will ruin their life.
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In the volatile ferment of band
life, one thing is for sure.
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Band mates are never short of
accusations to level at the singer.
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They're a bunch
of narcissistic bastards.
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Can't walk past a mirror
without looking at yourself.
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There's a poetic thing
to being a vocalist as well.
They are poets, in a way.
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And poets have always been
a bit up themselves, haven't they?
A bit strange.
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I don't have to sell my soul
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He's already in me...
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00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,480
But then, the frontman's
the soothsayer, you know.
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He's the guy who imparts the
knowledge or wisdom as he sees it.
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He's already in me...
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Lead singers are different. They're
special and they want to be adored.
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After all, they are artists.
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Lords of the dance.
Self-appointed leaders of mayhem
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who see the world differently.
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And looking down from that
particular misty mountain-top,
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it's not surprising that they
start viewing themselves as
different to the rest of us.
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See, the problem with fame
and being the lead singer
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is you get
the indulgence of others.
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Hey, Jim, Jim, you want some of this?
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Jim, I want to be your buddy, man.
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Here's this, and here's that and
here, take this, and here, take that.
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And any time Jim did anything
outrageous, people would say, oh,
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God, you're Jim Morrison,
you're totally outrageous.
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00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,880
No-one would say, hey, jerk,
cut it out, man. Just...boom.
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00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,480
Nobody ever hit Jim Morrison.
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00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,200
It wasn't just Jim Morrison
who didn't know where the
line should be drawn.
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When every whim is indulged,
a lead singer can very easily
449
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,480
become an inhabitant of
Planet Unreasonable, population - 1.
450
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,280
The lead singer, they get that
kind of diva thing that goes on.
451
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,920
And you can understand why.
You know, they're out there
452
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:50,480
and they're singing and you've got
the guys and girls clamouring over
you because you're the singer.
453
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,560
Yeah!
454
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,520
When I get, high get high on speed
455
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,800
I feel funny
cos the drug for me...
456
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,920
Frontman of LA rock monsters
Motley Crew is the unpredictable
Vince Neil,
457
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,480
a man whose moods
even wildman drummer
Tommy Lee finds hard to call.
458
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,960
I think he goes through phases where
he'll just be wearing flip-flops
459
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,240
and a Hawaiian shirt and shorts.
460
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,800
I'm a typical surfer
California dude.
461
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,640
And then he'll go into full
rock-star mode and start smashing
462
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,680
everything up in the dressing room
because the mustard was not the
right kind. It's like, well, OK.
463
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,600
In recent years, one frontman has
taken the job of being a contrary,
464
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,720
demanding so-and-so to new heights.
465
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Hello, is Mr Gallagher there, please?
466
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,320
Who is it? It's... Is that Liam?
467
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,880
Yeah. Hello, Liam, it's Jeremy Vine
from Newsnight here.
468
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,800
How are you doing? I'm BLEEP! sound.
469
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,200
How are you?
Not bad. Are you coming out?
470
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,600
Am I BLEEP! It's raining, mate.
Why aren't you going to Chicago?
471
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,280
Hello, Liam? Liam?
472
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,920
Step forward with a cocky swagger
and menacing stare,
473
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:10,760
Liam Gallagher, the frontman
who makes other frontmen nervous.
474
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,600
I could imagine sitting having a
beer with Liam Gallagher but I can
imagine being slightly on edge.
475
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,320
He's quite funny to chat to.
I chatted to him on a
couple of occasions.
476
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,320
You'd say something and he'd disagree
and then I'd agree with his point
of view, then he'd disagree back.
477
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,720
He'd go, like, how are you doing?
And you go, I'm pretty exhausted.
478
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,800
It's all this touring.
He goes, oh, I love touring.
479
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:35,280
And then I go, I love it too.
No, I hate it. And then you'd
be like, oh, God.
480
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,240
Liam Gallagher's whole thing has
always revolved around the idea
of being an ordinary lad.
481
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,000
You know, facing out the audience
in the same way as you'd stand
482
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,920
stock-still and kind of shoulders
back on the football terrace or if
you were in the pub
483
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,960
and spotted someone
you didn't particularly like.
484
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,880
The expectation that frontmen will
behave badly has become so ingrained
485
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,400
in rock 'n' roll culture
that for a younger lead singer
like Muse's guitar-toting
486
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,120
cyber boffin Matt Bellamy,
it's all got a bit Spinal Tap.
487
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,600
People definitely perceive
you differently and they
expect you to be diva-ish.
488
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,360
Before you know it, you start folding
up a little piece of bread and you
489
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,040
get really pissed off that the ham
doesn't fit in the little sandwich.
490
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,240
And you can lose it.
You can lost it up there.
491
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,360
This doesn't work
because then it's all...
492
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,360
Because it hangs out like that.
493
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,240
Look. Would you be holding this?
494
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,960
No, I wouldn't want to eat...
I wouldn't want to put that in
my mouth, I must say. All right.
495
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,960
A. Exhibit A. And then we move on
to this. You're surrounded by the
sort of people that are telling you
496
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,320
you're good all the time and all
this kind of stuff that it's easy to
fall off the rails and become a tit.
497
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,840
The lead singer is filling this role
of, "I'm the voice of the band."
498
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,320
Everything that the band has to say
is, of course, spoken through me.
499
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,040
Hundreds of years
before the dawn of history...
500
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,040
I am the message of the band.
I am the band's worldview.
501
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,640
I am the band's avatar.
The narcissism of, look at me.
502
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,600
The druids. I will suffer for you,
503
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,120
I will experience your pain.
504
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,240
Certainly the most melodramatic
figure in a band.
505
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,280
Help! I need somebody
Help!
506
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,520
Not just anybody
Help!
507
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,120
You know I need someone
Help!
508
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,480
They can be prone to the grandiose,
509
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,840
unpredictable or downright
belligerent, but is this
behaviour understandable?
510
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:48,200
An inevitable by-product of the
singer's high-pressure life in
the constant glare of publicity?
511
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:53,240
Everybody talks to the frontman.
They think he's got more answers
than the others. I don't know why.
512
00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:57,080
People expect what comes out your
mouth to be engaging and valid.
513
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,480
And you spend ages thinking
about the things that you've said,
514
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,920
and you realise that they're all
complete and utter bullshit.
515
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,640
You do get all the attention, but
at the same time you get
all the pressure.
516
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,760
If it goes well,
517
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,680
you know, great, the
frontperson gets the accolades.
518
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,520
If it goes really awful, the
frontperson gets the dirt as well.
519
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,800
Only too ready to dish the dirt
are the newspapers.
520
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,560
They're poised, waiting for
the lead singer to trip up.
521
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,400
Or even to do
the tripping themselves.
522
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,040
Here follows a cautionary tale
of the dangers of playing
with tabloid fire.
523
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,680
I said, Dad, you're shabby
524
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,680
You run around and
groove like a baddy...
525
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,880
You out of the Melody Maker world and
the NME world and you know you're
sort of making a mark then,
526
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,720
when you're getting in
the Mirror and the Sun.
527
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,560
Pretty cool stuff.
528
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,080
And the good thing about it was,
if you ever put anything about drugs
in with us, that's what we wanted.
529
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,240
You know what I mean? It was like,
when they ruin our career,
530
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:05,120
the more we got that sort of thing,
the better.
531
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,800
There was nothing that they
could print in these newspapers
that'd put us on a bummer,
532
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,160
be embarrassed in front
of your mum and dad about.
533
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,800
Anything. It's so rock 'n' roll,
it's all money in the bank.
534
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,760
And then one day I get up and there
it is in my first News of the World.
535
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,400
I was a rent boy.
536
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,880
If it ever happened now, you'd go,
so what? It's a laugh.
537
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:33,400
More Press. Right, but then, I was
a youngster, and it was like, what?
538
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,280
It's a beautiful day.
539
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,600
The frontman's offstage life can be
fraught with potential pitfalls.
540
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,040
Accusation, infamy,
some even end up in jail.
541
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:50,640
You'd imagine that the
performance side of the job
would be more straightforward.
542
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,400
But sadly, no.
543
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:58,720
Because the singer has to get to
the show in the first place by means
of the unforgiving magnifier
544
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,040
of character flaws
and foibles that is the tour.
545
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,720
And you are? I think a lot
of people have this idea that
touring's really glamorous.
546
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,880
It is so unglamorous, you
wouldn't even believe it.
547
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,040
You go nuts. Everybody goes nuts.
548
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,360
And you're all going nuts at
the same time but in different ways.
549
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,720
The seemingly endless chain of
departure lounges and hotel rooms
550
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:24,400
can bring out the inner diva
in even the most level-headed.
551
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120
I try to make sure I stay in hotel
rooms without air-conditioning and
552
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:32,000
that have open windows,
try to make sure there's no
air-conditioning on the bus.
553
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,040
I don't use swimming pools in hotels
because that dries the voice up.
554
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,040
A precious little flower.
555
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:45,560
You play up to it sometimes,
and I remember in Belgium
I demanded a travel hairdryer.
556
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,720
And I refused to do anything
unless I got my travel hairdryer.
557
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,160
I didn't really need one.
558
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,240
But I played up to it.
559
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:57,960
That's another thing.
The singers are always late. And they
always make you wait for them.
560
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,880
In fact, one of our sound guys
actually did tell me a great story of
once when they were all waiting and
561
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,040
they were convinced that
Barney used to wait on purpose.
562
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,640
So he was always last.
563
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,200
And I was going, no way, man,
who would do a thing like that?
564
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,520
And he went, you watch here.
Let's find out where his room is.
565
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,440
And he actually found out
where his room was in the hotel.
566
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,240
And we were all sat there by the bus
and he was about half-an-hour late,
three-quarters of an hour late.
567
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:23,360
And the window went, the curtain
went. And he was looking to see
if we were all there.
568
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,880
I know one famous singer
whose name I won't mention that
refuses to travel with the band.
569
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,360
And it's not because he's a
snob and he thinks he's Mr Big.
570
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,160
It's because he thinks the
band will last longer that way.
571
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,200
So he only sees the band
at the gig and then separates.
572
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,920
And there's a lot
to be said for that.
573
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,360
Tell me, how does it feel
574
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:49,080
When your heart grows cold
Grows cold
575
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,680
Goes cold.
576
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,280
Lead singers spend half
their lives on the move.
577
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,400
So what's to be learned from
observing them in one of their
most typical hunting grounds?
578
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,800
The airport.
On route to yet another show.
579
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:08,000
Is this a scenario where the
singer's liking of special treatment
might come to the fore?
580
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,560
I mean, I've seen it.
You know, when you're on tour
581
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,520
with some bands or you're
all doing the same festival,
582
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,080
you get on a plane and three walk to
the back and one walks to the front.
583
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,480
The old baggage carousel test -
who picks up the luggage.
584
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,320
There's no point
going for Louis Vuitton luggage
585
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,760
unless you've got someone to pick
it up off the carousel for you.
586
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,720
We're not quite there yet.
587
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:38,360
I've seen Chris Martin pick up
his own stuff off the carousel.
588
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,760
It had sponge in it!
589
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,480
It was a showpiece of luggage.
590
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,720
It opened up and French Revolution
gear spilled everywhere!
591
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,760
The frontman can be something
of a handful off stage,
but what about on it?
592
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,400
All manner of lead singer
shenanigans will be overlooked
if he delivers come show time.
593
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,800
How long must you wait for it?
594
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,080
In his most natural habitat,
up on stage,
595
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,160
what does he have in his arsenal?
596
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,480
How long must you wait for it?
597
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:28,560
One powerful weapon is the bond
he has with the fans and if he can
break down the boundaries between
598
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:35,400
on and off stage they will love him
even more, as Iggy Pop has learned
during his 40 years out front.
599
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,480
Iggy Pop is one of
the greatest frontmen of all time.
600
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,040
To me, because of a willingness
to risk body,
601
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,440
life and limb.
602
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,120
I'm not sure what gets
into me with the stage diving.
603
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,400
I did it last night in
Carnegie Hall.
604
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,200
I don't want to go
watch a bloody recital!
605
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,720
You know?
606
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,760
That's peanut butter!
607
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,320
All sorts of things have happened
down there, from kisses, on up.
608
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,560
So what else has the
frontman got in his locker?
609
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,880
In terms of actual equipment,
not much, more often than not
nothing more than a microphone.
610
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,640
So a little creative deployment
of that might come in handy.
611
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,840
I learned to swing the microphone
612
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,200
because I was bored of just standing
there singing a song.
613
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,320
I tried singing with a microphone
stand very early on in our career,
614
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:57,160
the mic on the very long, flexible
neck, and I used to do very, kind of,
615
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,920
innuendo stuff
with the microphone,
616
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,560
get a lot of girls' attention.
617
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,960
I got very bored of that and one
day I just started twirling it,
618
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,640
and it developed from there.
619
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,920
I think he does a damn
good job out there.
620
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:23,680
Personally, I would not go out there
up front with nothing to protect
me but a small microphone,
621
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,120
but he manages to revolve it so fast
that when people do throw things
622
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,680
he gets desiccated egg
and sliced tomato.
623
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,000
I'd and work the twirling in with
the music so it was always on timing,
624
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,960
but it became very balletic.
625
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,000
Yes, it's not just an electronic
advice for amplifying the voice,
626
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:51,840
it's a weapon in the lead singer's
battle to ensure all eyes
in the room are on him,
627
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,120
not the guitarist, or anyone else.
628
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,920
Getting noticed up there
is what it is all about,
and anything is fair game.
629
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:06,280
Slade's Noddy Holder had the antics
of guitarist Dave Hill to contend
with, but atop his shaggy barnet
630
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,760
was to be found his secret weapon.
631
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:14,280
I don't want to
Drink my whisky like you do...
632
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:21,520
That top hat with mirrors I had,
that was my own invention totally,
but it was a great stage prop.
633
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,600
I didn't even realise
what I'd invented there.
634
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:30,040
These huge beams of light used to
reflect off it and I could light
the audience up with the top hat.
635
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,480
Hats will do nicely,
but what about a flaming one?
636
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,440
'60s maverick Arthur Brown built his
career on such an item of headwear.
637
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,880
In those days, the act started
with me coming on the usually
638
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,520
carried on by someone or on a horse,
or swinging with the head on fire.
639
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,640
I am the god of hellfire
and I bring you...
Fire!
640
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,200
Then we'd go through the act
with different costumes
and end up with smoke coming out.
641
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,800
I'll see you burn...
642
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,520
The idea that you light your head
643
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,280
on fire and you do more than just
singing a song is what it's about.
644
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,720
The Crazy World of Arthur Brown,
that one song,
645
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,160
spot on.
School's out for summer...
646
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,240
Others were keen to emulate
Arthur's theatrics
647
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:32,040
and maybe the ultimate
thespian frontman is rock's
pantomime villain extraordinaire
648
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,120
Alice Cooper.
Early Seventies America was agog,
649
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,520
especially after an infamous
onstage poultry incident.
650
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,280
The chicken story was real,
I didn't kill the chicken
but there was a chicken on stage.
651
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,120
The chicken was thrown on stage
and I threw it back in the audience.
652
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,480
The audience killed it.
They destroyed the chicken
and threw it back on stage.
653
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,560
The next day "Alice Cooper bites head
off chicken, drinks the blood..."
654
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,160
Frank Zappa called me
the next day and said, "Did you
kill a chicken on stage?"
655
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,120
I said no. He said, "Don't
tell anybody, they love it!"
656
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,760
It was America's first real horror
rock star, this guy's for real.
657
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,920
The funny thing is we did
worse things than that!
658
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,880
They're cutting my head off, blood
was squirting everywhere,
659
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,760
that wasn't the thing that got the
attention, it was a chicken,
of all things.
660
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,640
School's been blown to pieces.
661
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,000
And he's still going strong today -
Alice, that is, not the chicken.
662
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,120
I sit here and talk to you and
I'm like this and isn't it great,
663
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:54,240
everything's great, when Alice comes
on stage I'm back here, the curtain
is here and I'm talking to the band.
664
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,400
The curtain goes down and it's...
665
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,400
And I've got my cane.
666
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,560
And all of a sudden it's...
667
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,960
How dare you come here
to see me tonight!
668
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,880
Welcome to my nightmare...
669
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,000
The guillotine, of course,
that blade weighs 40lb.
670
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,320
It misses me by about
that much, so it's all timing.
671
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,320
Don't try this at home,
I'm a professional.
672
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,920
The hanging,
673
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,640
it's nice and tight
around your throat.
674
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,840
Garbage can goes, he gets it.
675
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,760
It gets a great reaction every
single night. Put Alice in the
spike machine and then...
676
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:48,760
This is the part of the show
where the audience get a little wet.
677
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,880
If you're in this thing,
678
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,440
when a regular artery goes,
it's going to splash.
679
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,960
That's perfect.
680
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,200
For Alice Cooper, being frontman
is a matter of life and death,
681
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,400
albeit in a schlock horror way.
682
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,680
The lyrics of Joy Division's
frontman Ian Curtis also touched
683
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,800
on mortality and suffering
but in a very different manner.
684
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,840
This wasn't theatre,
it was self-exposure,
685
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,600
as confirmed by his searingly
intense style of performance.
686
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:32,800
When I met Ian he just struck me as
being incredibly mild mannered, he
was really charming, nice to talk to.
687
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,640
You know, really pleasant.
688
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,720
When he did rehearsals he'd just sit
in the corner with a microphone.
689
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:43,960
Then when we did a gig, it was
like someone turned a switch on.
690
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,720
What the hell's going on? He's
like just turned into this lunatic!
691
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:05,400
I don't think people in the
audience could take their eyes off
him, what he was doing on stage.
692
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:22,080
He was an extreme focal point
to the band.
693
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:27,840
Ian just lived, breathed and
was so passionate about our music
694
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:33,400
and it made him feel like exploding
because there was a wonderful,
joyous moment, going out and playing.
695
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,960
Nobody looked at us!
696
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,320
Bernard just stayed perfectly still,
697
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:46,600
playing the guitar, and Hooky stayed
more or less still playing the bass,
698
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,080
and Ian just was everywhere.
699
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,600
He was kind of manic, he always
used the expression "manic".
700
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,680
And he meant every word that he sang.
701
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Hunting by the rivers
Through the streets, every corner
702
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,120
Abandoned too soon
703
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,520
Sit down with due care
704
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,360
Don't walk away
705
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,400
In silence
706
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,440
Don't walk away...
707
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,880
Ian Curtis struggled to reconcile
what he became on stage with Joy
Division with the rest of his life.
708
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:39,160
He committed suicide in 1980,
on the eve of the band's first
planned trip to America.
709
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,040
After Ian died, I think he
was put up there on a pedestal.
710
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,680
But anyone when they die,
John Lennon, you know,
711
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,800
they go up a notch or two,
and the same thing happened with Ian.
712
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:58,040
I don't know, I guess people just go,
"Well, perhaps he did
mean what he said".
713
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:15,560
A frontman firmly in the Curtis
camp is Nirvana's Kurt Cobain.
714
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,400
"Keeping", "It", and "Real" could
have been his three middle names.
715
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,200
I understand the make-up and the
theatrics and wanting to step
716
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,520
on stage and become something
the larger than life, I get it.
717
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,400
But at the same time, I love
performers that walk upstage and
718
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,600
they don't necessarily
perform - they just be.
719
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:50,080
You know, they just sing and they do
their thing, and they are on stage
as they would be offstage.
720
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,640
In that regard,
721
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,720
Kurt was entirely that way.
722
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:00,720
Kurt would never pose, he would never
go out there and try to put on a
bad-ass face and talk
723
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:03,440
in a different voice
when he introduced his songs.
724
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,000
Kurt Cobain's every move
seemed to scream "I mean it".
725
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,560
His visceral performances
were totally without artifice.
726
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,520
Other lead singers might put on a
show - he was showing us his soul.
727
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,400
He was a mentalist. But he was so...
But he had something about him.
728
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,000
When he walked into a room you would
shit yourself, because of his eyes,
729
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,760
and the way he hit the guitar
and the intensity, you know.
730
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,920
Yeah. What Kurt Cobain
was doing was subverting
731
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,240
what the idea of a rock star and
a frontman had become, because it
732
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:55,680
had got to this point where it was
ridiculous kind of spandex-clad,
733
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,280
codpieced, hair all over the place,
734
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,120
Jack Daniels bottles and
groupies littered at your feet
wherever you went, hanging out
735
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,320
in the Rainbow Room every night.
And that had got really boring.
736
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,560
Cobain's star burned
intensely but briefly.
737
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,840
Tragically, he took his
own life aged just 27.
738
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,680
In his absence, it was left to
Nirvana's drummer, Dave Grohl,
to become his spiritual inheritor.
739
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:32,520
Forming Foo Fighters, Dave stepped
out from behind the drums to take
his first nervous steps as frontman.
740
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:48,640
I remember the Foo Fighters
did a festival with Bowie,
741
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,840
this was like
13 years ago in Switzerland.
742
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,360
There was like 30,000 people there,
and I was terrified.
743
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,640
We'd only been a band for like a
year and a half.
744
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,880
I went up there and
we played the set, and the audience
745
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,040
was like...
CLAPPING
746
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,880
"OK, that's cool, but, you know..."
747
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,080
What am I doing? I'm not a frontman!
And then here comes Bowie,
748
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,840
struts out on stage, the people
go bananas.
749
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:25,480
He just lifts a finger and the
audience like faints. I'm like,
"How in the hell did he do that?"
750
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:30,920
What any frontman worth his salt
needs is the will to stick at it.
751
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,960
Dave Grohl did,
and has blossomed into one
of rock's most natural frontmen.
752
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,680
Surprisingly, Dave Grohl's got a
really relaxed thing about being
753
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,600
a frontman, where he can like chat
to 80,000 people,
754
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,920
like he would chat to you, like
I am chatting to you now, quietly.
755
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:55,480
He's a good singer,
you know, but that's not really
what rock 'n' roll singing is about.
756
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,360
It's about
your ability to sort of connect with
757
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,960
a group of people,
758
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:08,040
whether it be a club
or a large stadium, and Dave can do
it, and there's not many that can.
759
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:13,120
I think he's one of the best,
I really do. I'd like to thank you
760
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,200
for making this the most unbelievable
Foo Fighters show we've ever had
761
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,240
in our lives, thank you very,
very much, all of you.
762
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,440
So, how does Dave do it?
763
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,720
It's almost like this responsibility
764
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:32,360
to be the Dean of this event.
765
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,200
To be the life of the party.
766
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,920
Which, to be honest,
I have no problem doing.
767
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,800
When I sing along with you
768
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:52,960
If everything could ever feel
this real forever...
769
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,520
I've always been that way.
If it's the barbecue in my back yard
770
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:00,080
with friends, or Wembley Stadium,
I'm the guy that is pouring whiskey
down everyone's throats and making
771
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,040
them sing along with me,
that's just the way it goes.
772
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:22,760
Us Brits have our own take on the
natural frontman, which involves
getting up on stage and...
773
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,360
not doing much at all, really - an
approach which is puzzling to a more
774
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:31,200
ostentatious American entertainer,
like Kiss's Gene Simmons.
775
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,640
Thom Yorke, poor guy, gets
tortured every time I say his name.
776
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,360
When he goes,
"I'm so miserable, I'm so..."
777
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:45,520
Do a flip, wear some leather,
do something exciting. Because we're
listening with our eyes.
778
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,760
If we give you all our money and
we come to see you live, give me
779
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,640
something, don't just go,
"I'm miserable..."
780
00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:06,240
See, with a frontman, it doesn't
matter if you're tall, fat,
781
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,560
skinny, bald, got an Afro.
782
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,360
Whatever you are you've
got to have presence.
783
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,480
Thom Yorke and Liam Gallagher have
both got something, they deliver
784
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,400
the song in a way
that you're just like, phew!
785
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,040
OK, that's good for a song.
786
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,480
Now explode, spontaneously
combust, stigmata,
787
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,840
bleed through your ass, do something!
788
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,160
I'm not sure that the stand-off
789
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:50,840
between the UK indie and US shlock
rock is going to be easily resolved,
790
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,520
so it's probably best to move on
before any permanent diplomatic harm
791
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,760
is done to the "special
relationship".
792
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:04,240
Berated by his peers,
envied by his band mates,
what does the lead singer care?
793
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:08,240
Whether he's exposing his soul
or putting on a show,
794
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:12,200
he knows that, quite possibly,
he's got the best job in the world.
795
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:21,520
When it's working and you know that
you're on top form, and you know,
796
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,480
those people are with you,
797
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,400
and they're feeling it...
798
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,000
It is an amazing feeling.
799
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,720
I've always said, if you could wrap
it up in a box and give it to your
800
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,800
friends for Christmas, it would
be the best present in the world.
801
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,800
That moment when you're standing
on stage and the adrenalin is
pumping through your body so fast...
802
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,160
Because an audience are basically
just carrying you, they're literally
803
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,280
lifting you to this height
that you can't get anywhere else.
804
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,280
There would sometimes be moments,
you know, when you're performing and
805
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:02,160
you're just like, everything stands
still and you're really comfortable
and it's all working and it's great.
806
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,960
That's when life
really made sense for me.
807
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:14,120
The lead singer - he's not like us,
he is rock royalty,
a modern-day deity.
808
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,080
He's in a rock 'n' roll band,
and he's the star of the show.
809
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,920
Now it's over to you. A shortlist of
the 10 greatest lead singers ever,
810
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:41,000
as chosen by a panel of music
experts, awaits at our website.
811
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,080
We need you to pick your
favourite frontperson of all time
812
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:52,360
and all will be revealed in a
special live show next month.
813
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:58,080
While next week, it's legs spread
wide and volume knobs up to 11 for
a no-holds-barred look at the band
814
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:05,200
member who most merits the
title Hero, in his eyes
at any rate - the guitarist.
815
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,520
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816
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,000
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817
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