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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,001 --> 00:00:02,947 [Man Narrating] In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:03,003 --> 00:00:06,644 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups- 3 00:00:06,707 --> 00:00:08,584 the police, who investigate crime, 4 00:00:08,642 --> 00:00:11,350 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,411 --> 00:00:13,186 These are their stories. 6 00:00:15,415 --> 00:00:17,861 Laurie, I need more cash. 7 00:00:17,918 --> 00:00:20,125 Hey, where's my free egg roll? No egg roll. 8 00:00:20,187 --> 00:00:23,225 It says over $25, you're supposed to get a free egg roll. No egg roll. 9 00:00:23,290 --> 00:00:27,466 I told them not to put it in. Fried dumplings and orange chicken... You don't need any more grease. 10 00:00:27,528 --> 00:00:30,065 Here you go. Keep the change. But I like the egg rolls. 11 00:00:30,130 --> 00:00:32,303 Stop being a baby. Come on. 12 00:00:32,366 --> 00:00:35,108 [ TV, Indistinct] 13 00:00:46,613 --> 00:00:48,615 Oh, my God. 14 00:00:49,383 --> 00:00:52,557 Leah Glaser, 78. She took a nasty tumble. 15 00:00:52,619 --> 00:00:54,292 Well, what makes it not an accident? 16 00:00:54,354 --> 00:00:57,130 Security chain's ripped off the door jamb. Well, that would do it. 17 00:00:57,190 --> 00:01:00,728 Looks like a push-in, but the TV's still here and so is her purse. 18 00:01:00,794 --> 00:01:02,740 And we're checking on her next of kin. 19 00:01:02,796 --> 00:01:04,901 Brody, what do you got? 20 00:01:04,965 --> 00:01:07,411 Lacerated forehead, massive head trauma. 21 00:01:07,467 --> 00:01:09,413 You can tell from the fling. 22 00:01:09,469 --> 00:01:11,574 She fell back, hit her head, fractured her skull. 23 00:01:11,638 --> 00:01:16,587 So, she opens the door with the chain on, somebody kicks it in, and... 24 00:01:16,643 --> 00:01:19,817 boom. Yeah, right between the eyes. Time of death? 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,156 An hour before the body was found. 26 00:01:22,215 --> 00:01:25,389 Hey, make sure that C.S.U. gets any lifts to Latent. 27 00:01:25,452 --> 00:01:27,989 After she fractured her skull, she was still alive. 28 00:01:28,055 --> 00:01:30,262 [Green] How do you know that? Petechial hemorrhages. 29 00:01:30,324 --> 00:01:32,770 Smothered her. With his hand, so hard... 30 00:01:32,826 --> 00:01:35,363 her dentures lacerated her gums. 31 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:37,431 Vicious son of a bitch. Hey, Ed 32 00:01:38,565 --> 00:01:41,944 She paid for these groceries at 3:33 p.m. 33 00:01:42,002 --> 00:01:43,948 There's a quart of milk in here... 34 00:01:44,004 --> 00:01:46,416 and a pint of half-melted ice cream. 35 00:01:46,473 --> 00:01:48,646 Well, obviously she didn't have time to put them away. 36 00:01:48,709 --> 00:01:52,486 So, the guy figured her for an easy mark, followed her home from the store. 37 00:01:52,546 --> 00:01:56,119 You know, that's a lot of groceries for an old lady to carry home by herself. 38 00:01:56,183 --> 00:01:58,424 Maybe she had them delivered. 39 00:01:58,485 --> 00:02:01,227 Well, whoever it was, I wonder what he took. 40 00:02:01,288 --> 00:02:03,598 The only thing that mattered. 41 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:58,422 Mrs. Glaser's daughter is flying in from Israel to I.D. the body. 42 00:02:58,478 --> 00:03:00,583 We're hoping that maybe she could shed some light. 43 00:03:00,647 --> 00:03:05,027 Good news, bad news. Latent's pulled a full set of prints off the door jamb. 44 00:03:05,085 --> 00:03:07,929 He must have grabbed it with both hands when he kicked the door in. 45 00:03:07,988 --> 00:03:10,400 Prints didn't set off any bells with B.C.I.? 46 00:03:10,457 --> 00:03:12,403 That's the bad news. They're not in the system. 47 00:03:12,459 --> 00:03:15,303 The M.E. on the scene said that she'd been dead about an hour, give or take. 48 00:03:15,362 --> 00:03:18,809 According to the store, her groceries were delivered around 4:00 p.m. 49 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:22,108 The delivery guy's a West African immigrant. No record. 50 00:03:22,169 --> 00:03:26,481 And the body was discovered? 6:00, by another delivery man, Chinese take-out. 51 00:03:26,540 --> 00:03:29,316 Nice thing about New York... You never have to leave your apartment. 52 00:03:29,376 --> 00:03:32,516 So she was killed around 5:00? 53 00:03:32,579 --> 00:03:36,994 Yeah, we figure maybe the guy scoped her out at the store, then followed her groceries home. 54 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:39,997 Or maybe the guy who delivered the groceries saw something that he liked... 55 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:43,057 and decided to go back for it. We'll talk to him first. 56 00:03:43,123 --> 00:03:47,902 Well, I'll call Robbery and see if there have been any other push-ins in the neighborhood. 57 00:03:47,961 --> 00:03:50,066 Every Wednesday. Yesterday too? 58 00:03:50,130 --> 00:03:53,111 No, not yesterday. You didn't deliver her groceries yesterday? 59 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:55,510 She meet her friend, Miss Lu, at the store. 60 00:03:55,569 --> 00:03:57,640 Miss Lu? Chinese young lady. 61 00:03:57,704 --> 00:03:59,877 She take the groceries. They walk home together. 62 00:03:59,940 --> 00:04:02,750 How do you know Miss Lu? Same building, down the hall. 63 00:04:02,809 --> 00:04:05,585 I deliver her groceries too sometimes. 64 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:09,621 [Woman] I got to know Leah when she broke her hip last summer. 65 00:04:09,683 --> 00:04:12,095 She was laid up at St. Andrew's for a month. 66 00:04:12,152 --> 00:04:14,223 I went to see her every day. 67 00:04:14,287 --> 00:04:18,565 We'd talk about sewing. She used to be a seamstress. 68 00:04:18,625 --> 00:04:20,571 She offered to make me a cup of tea. 69 00:04:20,627 --> 00:04:23,039 Maybe if I'd stayed... No, it wasn't your fault. 70 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:25,042 Did you notice anybody in the store... 71 00:04:25,098 --> 00:04:28,011 that might have followed the two of you home? I don't think so, no. 72 00:04:28,068 --> 00:04:30,639 How about as you came in the building? Anybody catch your eye? 73 00:04:30,704 --> 00:04:33,583 I rode up with her, helped her get her groceries inside, and went home. 74 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,314 What time was that? Around 4:00. 75 00:04:36,376 --> 00:04:40,381 You know, on the way home, we stopped at the A.T.M. across the street so Leah could get some cash. 76 00:04:40,447 --> 00:04:43,053 We found her, all she had was a few bucks in her purse. 77 00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:46,996 She didn't have a purse. I remember she took her bank card out of her pocket. 78 00:04:47,053 --> 00:04:49,465 [Green] How much did she withdraw? A hundred dollars, maybe. 79 00:04:49,523 --> 00:04:52,299 Elderly woman with a wad of cash? 80 00:04:52,359 --> 00:04:55,499 Let's call the lieutenant. Let's get a list of those push-in robbery victims. 81 00:04:55,562 --> 00:04:57,564 Thank you, sweetheart. 82 00:05:00,433 --> 00:05:02,709 Yeah, well, it happened just inside here. 83 00:05:02,769 --> 00:05:05,477 I had a bag full of groceries, cat food and stuff like that. 84 00:05:05,539 --> 00:05:08,349 I put the bag down, take out my key, 85 00:05:08,408 --> 00:05:10,854 put it in the lock here, open the door, 86 00:05:10,911 --> 00:05:12,857 and bam! 87 00:05:12,913 --> 00:05:14,859 There I am, kissing the floor! 88 00:05:14,915 --> 00:05:18,658 Then the bastard had a gun to the back of my head, 89 00:05:18,718 --> 00:05:21,699 told me if I turned around, he'd shoot me. 90 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:24,702 Now, you told the police that the guy that robbed you was Latino? 91 00:05:24,758 --> 00:05:28,900 Yeah, yeah. He was Spanish. Can you give us anything else? 92 00:05:28,962 --> 00:05:31,533 Uh, height, weight, color, age? 93 00:05:31,598 --> 00:05:33,544 Yeah, 40, maybe. 94 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,739 Uh, light-skinned. 95 00:05:35,802 --> 00:05:38,510 I was too scared to look him square in the face, you know? 96 00:05:38,572 --> 00:05:41,678 Do you take photographs, Mr. Wallace? Stargaze, up on the roof. 97 00:05:41,741 --> 00:05:44,950 It was a beauty of a telescope. 98 00:05:45,011 --> 00:05:47,890 Punk went right for it. 99 00:05:47,948 --> 00:05:50,554 Ten or 15 years ago, I would have taken him out, you know? 100 00:05:50,617 --> 00:05:53,962 No fun getting old, huh? Beats the alternative. 101 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:58,264 Of course, when I'm lugging these old bones over to St. Andrew's, 102 00:05:58,325 --> 00:06:00,236 I'm not too sure I'm beating it by much. 103 00:06:00,293 --> 00:06:03,604 - St. Andrew's? - Yeah. That's where I get my dialysis. 104 00:06:03,663 --> 00:06:08,237 Same hospital where Leah Glaser had her hip surgery. 105 00:06:08,301 --> 00:06:11,282 Of the 12 names on this list, five were our patients. 106 00:06:11,338 --> 00:06:15,650 And their home addresses are in your records, right? Strictly confidential. 107 00:06:15,709 --> 00:06:19,020 And access to computers and patient records is tightly controlled. 108 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:22,458 Yeah, but you've got all kinds of folks coming in and out of patients' rooms, right? 109 00:06:22,515 --> 00:06:24,461 Nurses, orderlies, visitors. 110 00:06:24,517 --> 00:06:27,464 Somebody takes a look in a purse, peeks into a wallet... 111 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,693 You're talking about two stroke victims, 112 00:06:29,756 --> 00:06:32,828 a kidney patient, a cardiac patient, and a woman who had hip surgery. 113 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:36,466 That's four separate floors, two different wings. 114 00:06:36,529 --> 00:06:39,669 And only the broken hip spent any real time here. Well, what about the other ones? 115 00:06:39,733 --> 00:06:43,010 Hospital policy: As soon as they're ambulatory, we send them home. 116 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:45,777 - Man, that's cold. - “Managed care." 117 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,012 Emphasis on “managed.“ 118 00:06:48,074 --> 00:06:50,054 We have excellent follow-up therapy. 119 00:06:50,110 --> 00:06:54,081 Every patient gets a qualified caregiver and a thorough home therapy regimen. 120 00:06:54,147 --> 00:06:56,627 You got a list of these qualified caregivers? 121 00:06:56,683 --> 00:06:58,924 We contract all that to a private agency. 122 00:07:02,422 --> 00:07:05,403 All of our employees are screened and fingerprinted 123 00:07:05,458 --> 00:07:08,268 Okay, we're gonna need their records and the names... 124 00:07:08,328 --> 00:07:10,638 of whoever took care of these five patients. 125 00:07:12,065 --> 00:07:15,979 Leah Glaser. Broken hip. Sweet old lady. 126 00:07:17,370 --> 00:07:19,316 Pauline Morris. Pauline's a doll. 127 00:07:19,372 --> 00:07:22,376 Been with us seven years. Never had any complaints. Patients love her. 128 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:25,048 Okay. How about the other four? 129 00:07:26,980 --> 00:07:29,586 Well, that's a coincidence. 130 00:07:29,649 --> 00:07:33,256 Pauline was the caregiver for all five. 131 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,493 Some coincidence. 132 00:07:35,555 --> 00:07:38,764 What's this about? Your work with the elderly. 133 00:07:38,825 --> 00:07:41,567 Yes? You know a Leah Glaser? 134 00:07:41,628 --> 00:07:43,767 One of my patients. 135 00:07:45,532 --> 00:07:48,376 You like astronomy, Ms. Morris? That's my son's. 136 00:07:48,435 --> 00:07:52,508 The mount's still attached. Where's the tripod? 137 00:07:52,572 --> 00:07:56,679 We got it secondhand. Yeah, I think the term these days is “pre-owned." 138 00:07:56,743 --> 00:07:58,814 I'm sorry... This is a pretty good scam. 139 00:07:58,878 --> 00:08:02,155 You help out the elderly, and then you help yourself to their things. What? 140 00:08:02,215 --> 00:08:06,095 The telescope. We're betting it belonged to a Stan Wallace. 141 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:10,328 You think I stole that from him? In the last six months, you've had nine patients. 142 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:13,667 Five of them have been robbed at gunpoint. How's it work? 143 00:08:13,727 --> 00:08:17,334 You identify the mark and then when you're gone, somebody comes in and terrorizes these old folks? 144 00:08:17,397 --> 00:08:19,604 I swear, I don't know what you're talking about. 145 00:08:19,666 --> 00:08:21,873 How did Mr. Wallace's telescope end up in your apartment? 146 00:08:21,935 --> 00:08:23,915 That's not Mr. Wallace's! 147 00:08:23,970 --> 00:08:27,008 It was a gift for my son's graduation from my fiancé. 148 00:08:27,073 --> 00:08:30,020 - He bought it at a flea market. - Oh, yeah? What's your fiancé's name? 149 00:08:30,076 --> 00:08:33,114 Joe Vasquez. And he works in the health care business too? 150 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:35,125 He drives for an ambulette service. 151 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:37,957 Yeah, what, picks them up at home, takes them to the doctor, like that? 152 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:40,692 Yes. 153 00:08:40,754 --> 00:08:43,428 You don't think Joe... Actually, we do. 154 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:45,436 Where can we find Joe now? 155 00:08:45,492 --> 00:08:48,302 Working. 156 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:50,500 He told me this was his grandmother's. 157 00:08:50,563 --> 00:08:53,772 Yeah, it was somebody's grandmother's. 158 00:08:53,833 --> 00:08:57,371 You casing new prospects, Joe? Say again? 159 00:08:57,437 --> 00:09:01,908 She ain't got no doorman. Nice old lady needs a hand. just like your other jobs. 160 00:09:01,975 --> 00:09:04,785 Don't know what you're talking about. I have one job. You're looking at it. Okay? 161 00:09:04,844 --> 00:09:09,224 Well, we'd love to take your word for it, Joe, but one of your references checked out permanently. 162 00:09:09,282 --> 00:09:11,785 What are you doing, man? You an astronomy buff, Joe? 163 00:09:11,851 --> 00:09:13,990 What? That telescope you gave your fiancée? 164 00:09:14,054 --> 00:09:16,330 We know where you got it, and it wasn't at a flea market. 165 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:18,562 You've heard of the seven rings of Saturn? 166 00:09:18,625 --> 00:09:20,935 These are the two rings of Rikers. 167 00:09:25,699 --> 00:09:29,909 I ain't robbed nobody, okay? We got an eyewitness who picked you out of a six-pack, Joe. 168 00:09:29,969 --> 00:09:33,507 One of your victims. Eyewitness to what? I ain't done nothing. 169 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:36,110 We got people searching your place as we speak. 170 00:09:36,176 --> 00:09:39,487 And what do you think they're gonna find, huh? All right, look. 171 00:09:39,546 --> 00:09:42,459 Maybe I buy and sell some stuff sometimes, you know, off the books, okay? 172 00:09:42,515 --> 00:09:47,589 Oh, so you're just a fence, right? Not an armed robber who preys on old people. 173 00:09:47,654 --> 00:09:50,692 Look, I take stuff on consignment, you know? 174 00:09:50,757 --> 00:09:52,703 I ain't no armed robber. 175 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:55,365 What are we gonna find in your place, Joe? Something belonging to a dead woman? 176 00:09:55,428 --> 00:09:58,841 Dead woman? No way. Uh-uh. No way, man. 177 00:09:58,898 --> 00:10:01,572 You fractured an old lady's skull and smothered her during a robbery. 178 00:10:01,634 --> 00:10:05,446 - We call that felony murder. - I told you. I don't know nothing about no dead lady! 179 00:10:05,505 --> 00:10:07,576 You don't know this woman? 180 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Never seen her. Don't know her. 181 00:10:10,343 --> 00:10:13,620 Uh-uh. Take another look. Come on, man. 182 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:15,785 Don't you think I'd remember? 183 00:10:15,849 --> 00:10:18,227 Do you remember where you were Wednesday afternoon? 184 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:21,424 Wednesday? Wednesday... 185 00:10:21,488 --> 00:10:25,561 Yeah. Um-- Yeah, I dropped a guy off at the clinic for an overnight. 186 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:29,869 On the way back to the garage, I got stuck on the F.D.R., jammed in traffic for an hour and a half. 187 00:10:29,929 --> 00:10:33,467 No way in, no way out. And no way for anybody to vouch for you. 188 00:10:33,533 --> 00:10:38,209 Talk to Dougie. He's my dispatcher, okay? 189 00:10:38,271 --> 00:10:40,751 We spent the whole time jawin' on the radio. 190 00:10:40,807 --> 00:10:45,449 I told him the next time the damn president's in town, I'm taking the day off. 191 00:10:45,512 --> 00:10:48,186 You guys want to know about Vasquez, right? 192 00:10:48,248 --> 00:10:50,250 He's on 7:00 to 3:00, weekdays. 193 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:53,160 He said you two were burning up the radio this last Wednesday. 194 00:10:53,219 --> 00:10:55,756 The president came in to talk to the U.N. that day. 195 00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:58,803 Major meltdown. Vasquez was in the middle of it, goin' out of his mind. 196 00:10:58,858 --> 00:11:01,668 That's what he told you, but you don't know that for a fact. 197 00:11:01,728 --> 00:11:05,073 Hey, I believed him, because he kept calling me to bitch about it. 198 00:11:05,131 --> 00:11:10,240 So whatever you think he did, he would have had to do it with one hand on his radio, because he never shut the hell up. 199 00:11:10,303 --> 00:11:13,409 Did Vasquez ever drive an old lady named Leah Glaser? 200 00:11:13,473 --> 00:11:15,817 Name rings a bell. 201 00:11:17,277 --> 00:11:19,279 Uh... 202 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,261 Uh, not Vasquez. Johnny Kagan. Monday. 203 00:11:23,316 --> 00:11:27,765 Drove her downtown, Federal Plaza. Why are you interested in these guys? 204 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:30,528 Vasquez and Kagan... What do you know about them? 205 00:11:30,590 --> 00:11:33,093 Friends of my cousin. Uh, came in a couple of years ago... 206 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:35,469 looking to turn over a new lease on life. 207 00:11:35,528 --> 00:11:37,906 Came here from where? California. 208 00:11:37,964 --> 00:11:40,342 The two of them just finished a nickel jolt out in Lompoc. 209 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,279 "Nickel jolt." You sound like an old yardbird yourself. 210 00:11:43,336 --> 00:11:46,215 Everybody deserves a second chance, Detective. 211 00:11:46,272 --> 00:11:49,412 - What were they in for? - Why don't you pull their sheets? 212 00:11:49,475 --> 00:11:51,785 Why don't you tell us before we pull yours? 213 00:11:51,844 --> 00:11:53,846 [Sighs] I don't know. 214 00:11:53,913 --> 00:11:55,859 Armed robbery, maybe. 215 00:12:00,453 --> 00:12:02,899 Joe did some thing he shouldn't have, that's his business. 216 00:12:02,956 --> 00:12:07,496 Yeah, we figure you and Vasquez are in business together, tag-teaming senior citizens. 217 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:10,598 I'm straight these days, Detective. Keep my nose to the grindstone. 218 00:12:10,663 --> 00:12:14,110 Your dispatcher said that you picked up a client named Leah Glaser Monday. 219 00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:18,172 If that's what he says. Yeah, well, she's dead. Somebody killed her. 220 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:22,084 Now do we have your attention? Man, I didn't have nothing to do with that. 221 00:12:22,141 --> 00:12:25,588 Where did you take her? Dropped her off downtown at Federal Plaza. 222 00:12:25,645 --> 00:12:28,091 How'd she get home? Said she'd take a cab. 223 00:12:28,147 --> 00:12:30,684 Federal Plaza? You see what building she went in? No. 224 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:33,560 No idea. And she didn't tell me where she was going, okay? 225 00:12:33,620 --> 00:12:37,090 Can I get back to work now? Yeah, go ahead. Get lost. 226 00:12:37,156 --> 00:12:40,365 Man, she could have gone anywhere... courts, government offices. 227 00:12:40,426 --> 00:12:42,838 You ready to work off that lunch? We didn't have lunch. 228 00:12:42,895 --> 00:12:46,365 Exactly. I'm gonna call Lieu, tell her we're gonna be a while. 229 00:12:47,567 --> 00:12:50,912 My mother was a survivor. 230 00:12:50,970 --> 00:12:54,349 I don't mean in the casual way... 231 00:12:54,407 --> 00:12:56,819 people say “I'm a survivor”... 232 00:12:56,876 --> 00:12:59,379 after they get a divorce. 233 00:12:59,445 --> 00:13:02,324 I mean literally She was in a camp. 234 00:13:02,382 --> 00:13:04,328 In Poland. 235 00:13:04,384 --> 00:13:06,990 That she should come through all that... 236 00:13:07,053 --> 00:13:10,796 and then die in some stupid holdup... 237 00:13:10,857 --> 00:13:14,066 Mrs. Meisner, have you been able to go through your mother's things? 238 00:13:14,127 --> 00:13:16,368 Was there anything missing? 239 00:13:16,429 --> 00:13:20,343 A locket. A silver locket. 240 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,279 It had a picture of her mother and father... 241 00:13:23,336 --> 00:13:25,976 my grandparents. 242 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:28,417 She never... 243 00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:30,420 She never took it off. 244 00:13:30,476 --> 00:13:34,549 It's the only thing she had from her life before the war. 245 00:13:34,614 --> 00:13:37,390 God knows how she managed to hang onto it. 246 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:41,899 I'm sorry. She wasn't wearing any other jewelry when she was found. 247 00:13:41,955 --> 00:13:44,595 I wanted to pass that along to my daughter. 248 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:48,901 Something to remember her nana by. 249 00:13:49,896 --> 00:13:52,433 If we find it... 250 00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:55,411 Now, your mother had an appointment downtown... 251 00:13:55,468 --> 00:13:58,972 near the courthouses a couple of days before she died. 252 00:13:59,038 --> 00:14:01,450 Do you know why she might have been down there? 253 00:14:01,507 --> 00:14:04,386 Any legal business she might have had? 254 00:14:04,444 --> 00:14:06,947 A will, maybe. I don't know. 255 00:14:07,013 --> 00:14:09,186 Maybe she was getting her passport renewed, 256 00:14:09,248 --> 00:14:11,194 planning to visit you in Israel? 257 00:14:11,250 --> 00:14:13,787 The last time I spoke to her, she mentioned... 258 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:16,527 she was going to Immigration again. 259 00:14:16,589 --> 00:14:19,502 Is that downtown? Immigration... You know why? 260 00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:22,870 This was about her Shoah testimony, I think. 261 00:14:22,929 --> 00:14:26,809 “Shoah testimony"? The Shoah Project. 262 00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:30,313 It's a videotaped oral history of the Holocaust... 263 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:34,546 to record the truth before all the witnesses are dead... 264 00:14:34,607 --> 00:14:37,520 and the whole world forgets what happened. 265 00:14:40,913 --> 00:14:44,019 Leah Glaser... She was here last Monday. 266 00:14:44,083 --> 00:14:47,462 What was she doing here? It doesn't say. 267 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,161 It's gotta be in there somewhere. I'm looking. 268 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:56,573 [Sighs] Some D.O.J. bigwig pulled her file. Department of justice? 269 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:59,075 Someone in Criminal Division. When they pull a file, 270 00:14:59,132 --> 00:15:01,408 it usually has something to do with Homeland Security. 271 00:15:01,467 --> 00:15:04,676 Her name was Leah Glaser. She was 78 years old. 272 00:15:04,737 --> 00:15:07,308 Does that sound like a security risk to you? Don't ask me. 273 00:15:07,373 --> 00:15:09,319 Ask Criminal. Sixth floor. 274 00:15:12,545 --> 00:15:14,684 Our records show she met with Dennis Mendenhall. 275 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:16,693 Okay we 're gonna need to talk to him. 276 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:19,252 Dennis doesn't work out of this office. He's with O.S.I. 277 00:15:19,318 --> 00:15:22,492 D.O.J., O.S.I... Government alphabet soup. 278 00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:26,731 Office of Special Investigations. Was Leah Glaser being investigated? 279 00:15:26,793 --> 00:15:29,399 Sorry. I'm not authorized to talk about that. 280 00:15:29,462 --> 00:15:33,410 Look, we're not asking because we're nosy. Ms. Glaser was murdered. 281 00:15:33,466 --> 00:15:37,676 Oh, my God. 282 00:15:37,737 --> 00:15:40,843 - I wonder... - You wonder what? 283 00:15:42,975 --> 00:15:46,218 She was a witness in a deportation proceeding. 284 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:49,749 If it was a deportation proceeding, why wouldn't Immigration handle it? 285 00:15:49,816 --> 00:15:53,855 Because O.S.I. handles all cases relating to war crimes. 286 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,764 - But she wasn't being investigated? - No, she wasn't. 287 00:15:56,823 --> 00:16:00,896 She was testifying against a camp guard, an S.S. officer. 288 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,940 A Nazi. 289 00:16:06,332 --> 00:16:08,573 Stefan Anders, German national, 290 00:16:08,634 --> 00:16:10,875 immigrated here in 1948. 291 00:16:10,937 --> 00:16:13,076 And you think he's a Nazi? 292 00:16:13,139 --> 00:16:17,110 I've spent the last seven years de-naturalizing him, stripping him of his citizenship. 293 00:16:17,176 --> 00:16:21,181 Next step, deportation. So why are you giving up now? 294 00:16:21,247 --> 00:16:25,423 Lt. Van Buren, have you ever had trouble finding credible eyewitnesses to your cases? 295 00:16:25,485 --> 00:16:29,661 Of course we do. Try finding one to something that happened 60 years ago. 296 00:16:29,722 --> 00:16:32,134 Anders was a guard in a place called Bobrek, 297 00:16:32,191 --> 00:16:35,001 a, uh, satellite camp of Auschwitz, 298 00:16:35,061 --> 00:16:38,634 which manufactured airplane and submarine parts. 299 00:16:38,698 --> 00:16:42,145 Leah Glaser was a slave laborer there. 300 00:16:42,201 --> 00:16:44,147 Anders was the S.S. officer in charge. 301 00:16:44,203 --> 00:16:47,241 Leah Glaser identified him from this photo... 302 00:16:47,306 --> 00:16:50,253 his Waffen S.S. file. 303 00:16:50,309 --> 00:16:52,482 After the Soviet Union opened their archives in the early '90s, 304 00:16:52,545 --> 00:16:55,389 they turned it over to us. You can hardly see his face. 305 00:16:55,448 --> 00:16:59,191 This was what, 60 years ago? How could she be so sure? 306 00:16:59,252 --> 00:17:02,358 One morning he shot six other prisoners... 307 00:17:02,421 --> 00:17:04,367 right in front of her. 308 00:17:04,423 --> 00:17:08,530 She couldn't forget him. You looked at her Shoah testimony. 309 00:17:09,795 --> 00:17:12,241 Her description of this one guard, 310 00:17:12,298 --> 00:17:15,871 this one particular incident, sounded like Anders, 311 00:17:15,935 --> 00:17:19,644 so we contacted her, and she picked him out of a photo array. 312 00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:23,243 And you're convinced that this Anders is the same Anders... 313 00:17:23,309 --> 00:17:26,518 who's alive and well and living on East 91 st Street? 314 00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:30,322 And has been for the last 50 years. 315 00:17:30,383 --> 00:17:34,229 Yeah, we are, and so was Leah Glaser. 316 00:17:34,287 --> 00:17:36,631 But without her testimony? 317 00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:39,727 Unless we can find more evidence, 318 00:17:39,792 --> 00:17:43,638 he's gonna die on that nice, soft bed on East 91 st Street. 319 00:17:43,696 --> 00:17:47,371 If he killed her to stop her from testifying, that's murder one. 320 00:17:48,568 --> 00:17:52,744 You know, Lieutenant, there's one place we've never been able to search for evidence against him... 321 00:17:52,805 --> 00:17:54,341 his home. 322 00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:59,117 See, that's where Criminal has it all over Civil. 323 00:18:00,112 --> 00:18:02,592 Man's a murder suspect. 324 00:18:02,648 --> 00:18:05,026 What exactly do you think you're gonna find? 325 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:08,031 Memorabilia from your father? goose-stepping days. 326 00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:11,398 That is so offensive. He wasn't a Nazi. 327 00:18:11,457 --> 00:18:13,596 Not every German was a Nazi. 328 00:18:13,659 --> 00:18:15,605 Yeah, they were just following orders. 329 00:18:15,661 --> 00:18:19,165 I was a soldier, a veteran, like you. 330 00:18:19,232 --> 00:18:22,042 Not like me, pal. This is a witch hunt, 331 00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:24,206 an O.S.I. fishing expedition. 332 00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:27,717 Yeah, they're persecuting an innocent old man Just for the hell of it. 333 00:18:27,773 --> 00:18:30,481 Search all you want. I'm not hiding anything. 334 00:18:30,543 --> 00:18:33,217 Dad, I'm calling a lawyer. [Green] He's gonna need one. 335 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:35,281 Lennie, look what I found. 336 00:18:40,186 --> 00:18:42,598 I don't know anything about this locket. 337 00:18:42,655 --> 00:18:45,033 Yeah, right. It just magically appeared in your stuff, 338 00:18:45,091 --> 00:18:47,867 next to your passport and your social security card. 339 00:18:47,927 --> 00:18:51,272 Someone sent it to me. See, you do know something about it. 340 00:18:51,330 --> 00:18:53,571 [Green] Who sent it'? I don't know. 341 00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:56,239 Now, why would somebody send you Leah Glaser's locket? 342 00:18:56,302 --> 00:18:59,181 I don't know. And I don't know this Glaser person. 343 00:18:59,238 --> 00:19:01,878 Leah Glaser. She was gonna get you deported... 344 00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:04,421 back to the old country, [German Accent] the fatherland. 345 00:19:04,477 --> 00:19:08,015 You mean the so-called witness? I never met her. 346 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,584 - You took that locket from her neck! - I told you... 347 00:19:11,651 --> 00:19:14,996 - After you killed her! - And your big mistake was holding onto the locket. 348 00:19:15,054 --> 00:19:17,933 Mrs. Glaser's daughter's going to identify it as her mother's. 349 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:20,493 We're gonna find your prints all over it. I never met her. 350 00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:23,506 And then we're gonna match those prints with your prints from the crime scene. 351 00:19:23,562 --> 00:19:25,769 - It's impossible. I was never there. - You're lying. 352 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:28,471 I'm not! [Man] Quit browbeating my client. 353 00:19:28,534 --> 00:19:32,038 Stefan, not another word. This interrogation is over. 354 00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:38,318 Stefan Anders was never a murderer... not then, not now. 355 00:19:38,377 --> 00:19:42,086 He never met Mrs. Glaser. He was unaware of the locket's provenance. 356 00:19:42,148 --> 00:19:44,651 It was sent to him by an unknown party. 357 00:19:44,717 --> 00:19:48,529 How does he explain this, which the police found in his papers? 358 00:19:48,587 --> 00:19:52,694 His 1948 visa application to enter the United States. 359 00:19:52,758 --> 00:19:56,831 - So what? - Compare that visa photo with this. 360 00:19:56,896 --> 00:20:00,844 - What's this? - It's from Mr. Anders's Waffen S.S. file. 361 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:05,110 The photograph you used to enter this country in 1948... 362 00:20:05,171 --> 00:20:09,017 is the same as the one in your S.S. personnel file. 363 00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:13,683 - That can't be. - The Russians turned it over to O.S.I. a few years ago. 364 00:20:16,082 --> 00:20:18,892 All right. 365 00:20:21,253 --> 00:20:25,065 I was a soldier on the Eastern Front. 366 00:20:25,124 --> 00:20:27,126 A young officer. 367 00:20:27,193 --> 00:20:30,766 After Stalingrad, the S.S. sent me to Bobrek. 368 00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:34,175 The war was lost. All that was left was the final solution. 369 00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:37,737 You think I had a choice? You think I wanted to be guarding prisoners in some miserable camp? 370 00:20:37,803 --> 00:20:41,512 The O.S.I. says that you were the officer in charge. Ridiculous. 371 00:20:41,574 --> 00:20:44,180 I escorted the prisoners... 372 00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:46,723 from the barracks to the factory every day, 373 00:20:46,779 --> 00:20:48,725 and then back again in the evening. 374 00:20:48,781 --> 00:20:51,455 That's all. I never harmed a prisoner. 375 00:20:51,517 --> 00:20:53,463 Not one. Not ever. 376 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:55,590 Not according to Leah Glaser. 377 00:20:55,654 --> 00:20:57,600 It wasn't me who killed those prisoners. 378 00:20:57,656 --> 00:21:00,694 She has me confused with another guard. [Attorney] We weren't worried. 379 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,933 Her word against his. 380 00:21:02,995 --> 00:21:05,874 That was before we found his visa photograph. 381 00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:08,605 Well, yes. Now, that evidence is enough to get him deported. 382 00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:12,979 He lied about his background to get into this country. He admits it. 383 00:21:13,038 --> 00:21:16,076 But if you hadn't searched his home and found that photograph 384 00:21:16,142 --> 00:21:18,144 he would have beaten deportation. 385 00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:21,714 - What has happened is a disaster for me. - What I'm saying is, 386 00:21:21,781 --> 00:21:23,988 he had no reason to kill her. 387 00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:27,826 The appeals process on deportation alone would have lasted years. 388 00:21:27,887 --> 00:21:33,496 - You thought you'd outlive her. - One of us was bound to die before this was settled. 389 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:36,972 - You made sure it was her. - All right, look. Since you insist... 390 00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:39,009 on going through with this. 391 00:21:44,937 --> 00:21:47,679 He's seeking to bar us from characterizing Mr. Anders... 392 00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:51,085 as a Nazi at trial. 393 00:21:51,143 --> 00:21:53,851 Talk about chutzpah. 394 00:21:57,116 --> 00:21:59,926 Your Honor, labeling Stefan Anders as a Nazi.. 395 00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:02,932 Will prevent him from ever receiving a fair trial. 396 00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:06,435 The mere mention of the word is enough to condemn him in the eyes of any jury. 397 00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:09,302 He has a point, Mr. McCoy. It couldn't be a more loaded word. 398 00:22:09,361 --> 00:22:13,776 Mr. Anders's motive arises out of his personal history as an S.S. officer... 399 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:15,779 and a member of the Nazi party. 400 00:22:15,835 --> 00:22:18,179 His past is part and parcel of the People's case. 401 00:22:18,237 --> 00:22:20,183 Mr. Jensen? 402 00:22:20,239 --> 00:22:23,846 Then you must give my client the opportunity to explain his past... 403 00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:26,014 in its historical context. 404 00:22:26,078 --> 00:22:29,457 Are you going to offer evidence that he wasn't a Nazi or an S.S. officer? 405 00:22:29,515 --> 00:22:32,496 I'm going to offer evidence that the commonly accepted version... 406 00:22:32,551 --> 00:22:34,997 of the Second World War is wrong. 407 00:22:35,054 --> 00:22:37,728 That there was no Holocaust, there were no death camps, 408 00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:41,294 and there certainly was no final solution. Your Honor, please. 409 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,364 Did hundreds of thousands of Jews die? Yes. 410 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:47,639 And not only Jews, but Gypsies, Poles, Russians... yes. 411 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:51,170 But those deaths weren't murders. They weren't genocide. 412 00:22:51,237 --> 00:22:55,686 They were the inevitable result of disease, of starvation, of war. 413 00:22:55,741 --> 00:22:59,621 Every respectable historian in the world would disagree. 414 00:22:59,678 --> 00:23:02,181 There are distinguished academics who think otherwise. 415 00:23:02,248 --> 00:23:04,751 Holocaust deniers, cranks, 416 00:23:04,817 --> 00:23:07,923 anti-Semites disguising their real agenda. 417 00:23:07,987 --> 00:23:11,594 Meretricious nonsense does not become expert testimony... 418 00:23:11,657 --> 00:23:14,729 just because it comes wrapped in a Ph.D.! 419 00:23:14,793 --> 00:23:18,400 Why don't we let a jury decide what's fringe nonsense and what's not? 420 00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:22,037 Why don't we let a judge decide first? 421 00:23:22,101 --> 00:23:25,446 We would happily accept an evidentiary hearing, Your Honor. Nothing would please us more. 422 00:23:25,504 --> 00:23:29,008 Your Honor can't entertain this disreputable, evil theory. 423 00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:31,247 If someone insists the earth is flat... 424 00:23:31,310 --> 00:23:35,053 and the sun circles around it, despite all evidence to the contrary, 425 00:23:35,114 --> 00:23:38,288 are we supposed to engage the argument on their terms? 426 00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:41,559 - This is a conversation with a lunatic! - Hold your horses, Mr. McCoy. 427 00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:43,566 I agree. [Pills Rattle in jar] 428 00:23:43,622 --> 00:23:46,796 No rational, unbiased person could look at the historical evidence... 429 00:23:46,859 --> 00:23:49,567 and doubt the fact of the Holocaust. 430 00:23:49,628 --> 00:23:52,438 It cannot be disputed, 431 00:23:52,498 --> 00:23:54,705 nor will it be in my court. 432 00:23:56,969 --> 00:23:58,915 The whole question's irrelevant. 433 00:23:58,971 --> 00:24:02,180 Anders is being deported whether the Holocaust happened or not. 434 00:24:02,241 --> 00:24:06,656 It doesn't make any difference. I mean, he still had motive to murder the old lady. 435 00:24:06,712 --> 00:24:09,818 Arguing about whether the Holocaust actually happened... 436 00:24:09,882 --> 00:24:13,921 It's not something I'd ever thought I'd have to do in court or out. 437 00:24:13,986 --> 00:24:16,796 Now, Jensen knew it never stood the ghost of a chance. 438 00:24:18,157 --> 00:24:20,467 What are you saying? It was a ploy? 439 00:24:20,526 --> 00:24:23,336 Judge Karan kicks out his motion, gives him more grounds for appeal. 440 00:24:23,395 --> 00:24:25,375 It's what it's about with these old guys. 441 00:24:25,431 --> 00:24:28,969 I mean, stall and delay, whatever it takes to run out the clock. 442 00:24:30,102 --> 00:24:33,174 How does a retired mechanic retain a pricey mouthpiece like Jensen? 443 00:24:33,238 --> 00:24:36,219 I was wondering the same thing myself. 444 00:24:36,275 --> 00:24:38,755 I don't suppose he was doing it pro bono. 445 00:24:38,811 --> 00:24:41,849 Worth looking at. [Knocking] 446 00:24:41,914 --> 00:24:45,327 The crime lab matched Anders's D.N.A. to a sample taken from Leah Glaser's door. 447 00:24:45,384 --> 00:24:48,456 He left his sweat on the doorknob and peephole. 448 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,659 Now you got him. What about the fingerprints? 449 00:24:50,723 --> 00:24:53,329 A print on the locket matches a print found on the door jamb, but... 450 00:24:53,392 --> 00:24:55,872 It isn't Anders's. 451 00:24:55,928 --> 00:24:58,169 It looks like somebody else kicked down that door. 452 00:25:04,270 --> 00:25:06,375 Do you think this exonerates Anders? 453 00:25:06,438 --> 00:25:08,748 Not at all. Leah Glaser's death... 454 00:25:08,807 --> 00:25:12,152 had to be connected to her testimony against Anders. 455 00:25:12,211 --> 00:25:15,886 We can assume there was an accomplice, and so will a jury. 456 00:25:15,948 --> 00:25:19,122 Well, Anders now admits that he did go see her after the preliminary hearing. 457 00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:23,860 He said that she wouldn't let him in, so he talked to her through the door for a few minutes and then left. 458 00:25:23,923 --> 00:25:27,200 What about the son? Came in voluntarily and gave his fingerprints. 459 00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:30,502 They're not his. Time to cast a wider net. 460 00:25:30,562 --> 00:25:32,872 We checked Anders's phone and financial records. 461 00:25:32,931 --> 00:25:36,640 You know, there is actually a Web site supporting Anders's deportation fight. 462 00:25:36,702 --> 00:25:39,342 Maybe they're contributing to his defense. 463 00:25:39,405 --> 00:25:41,851 Somebody's got to be paying for Jensen. 464 00:25:41,907 --> 00:25:45,184 What about this preliminary hearing? Check the sign-in sheet. 465 00:25:45,244 --> 00:25:48,589 See if anyone else turned up to cheer on their hero. 466 00:25:49,715 --> 00:25:53,356 We found one interesting hit from that sign-in sheet... 467 00:25:53,419 --> 00:25:55,797 Kyle Mellors. Who's Kyle Mellors? 468 00:25:55,854 --> 00:25:59,859 He's a record producer. And this is from his company Web site. 469 00:25:59,925 --> 00:26:02,769 Heritage Records? Sounds benign, right? 470 00:26:02,828 --> 00:26:06,139 But then you begin clicking around that Web site. 471 00:26:06,198 --> 00:26:08,439 It's hardcore W.P. W.P.? 472 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:12,038 “White power." Check out the links on that site. 473 00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:16,075 Nazi memorabilia. An “ethnic cleansing" video game. 474 00:26:16,141 --> 00:26:18,417 A picture of Hitler in an Uncle Sam top hat and suit, 475 00:26:18,477 --> 00:26:20,423 with his arm out, pointing. 476 00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:23,790 And here's some praise for the 9/11 hijackers. 477 00:26:23,849 --> 00:26:27,888 “Wish we had the guts to do what they did." 478 00:26:27,953 --> 00:26:31,059 “Holocaust Barbecue Sauce, six million served.” 479 00:26:31,123 --> 00:26:35,196 They deny the Holocaust and celebrate it simultaneously 480 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:38,537 A neat trick. Did you listen to the records? 481 00:26:38,597 --> 00:26:40,804 I just read the catalogue descriptions. 482 00:26:40,866 --> 00:26:44,313 It's all about “mud people" and white supremacy... 483 00:26:44,369 --> 00:26:47,213 and killing Jews and blacks. 484 00:26:47,272 --> 00:26:51,516 So Mellors is a neo-Nazi who went to the hearing to support Anders. 485 00:26:51,577 --> 00:26:54,319 There's a link on the Heritage Records Web site... 486 00:26:54,379 --> 00:26:58,327 which has been raising money to fight Anders's deportation. 487 00:26:58,384 --> 00:27:03,333 "Stefan Anders, innocent man targeted by Zionist opportunists"? 488 00:27:03,389 --> 00:27:05,562 You get into Heritage Records' financials, 489 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:09,470 and I'll bet you'll find they've been shoveling money into Anders's defense fund. 490 00:27:09,528 --> 00:27:12,737 I'll get a subpoena. Have Briscoe and Green... 491 00:27:12,798 --> 00:27:14,835 drop in on Mellors for a chat. 492 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:16,846 Briscoe and Green. 493 00:27:16,902 --> 00:27:20,145 That ought to push his buttons. 494 00:27:20,205 --> 00:27:23,482 [Distorted Guitar] 495 00:27:23,542 --> 00:27:26,648 - We're in the middle of a session. - Ours is just starting. 496 00:27:26,712 --> 00:27:29,852 Whoa, the fuzz. “The fuzz." I haven't heard that since the '60s. 497 00:27:29,915 --> 00:27:32,191 Everything old is new again. Kyle Mellors? 498 00:27:32,251 --> 00:27:34,492 [Door Opens] 499 00:27:34,553 --> 00:27:36,499 How can I help you gentlemen? 500 00:27:36,555 --> 00:27:39,934 Oh, hey, man we need to ask you a few questions about Stefan Anders. 501 00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:42,404 Don't know the man. You raised money for him. 502 00:27:42,461 --> 00:27:44,566 Well, I give money to the ASPCA too, 503 00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:48,043 but it doesn't mean I'm on speaking terms with every mutt in the kennel. 504 00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:51,172 - So you don't know this “mutt,” Anders? - Nope. Never met him. 505 00:27:51,236 --> 00:27:55,707 - But you like the things he stands for? - My customers like the things he stands for. 506 00:27:55,774 --> 00:27:58,345 Look, Detectives, I'm a record producer. 507 00:27:58,410 --> 00:28:00,890 You know, controversy sells records. 508 00:28:00,946 --> 00:28:04,223 And Stefan Anders is controversial? You bet. 509 00:28:04,283 --> 00:28:07,696 And now he's been arrested for murder, my Web site hits are through the roof. 510 00:28:07,753 --> 00:28:10,165 You know, we're gonna ride this guy all the way to the end. 511 00:28:10,222 --> 00:28:13,635 Hope he gets the death penalty. We can retire. "No Surrender”? 512 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:16,730 That's their debut album. You produce this garbage? 513 00:28:16,795 --> 00:28:20,538 - Well, that one's a little extreme. - How about this one? 514 00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:23,910 That's our biggest seller, “New Glory.“ 515 00:28:23,969 --> 00:28:26,745 Will you sign it for us? 516 00:28:30,008 --> 00:28:33,546 - Who should I make it out to? - “New York's finest." 517 00:28:35,814 --> 00:28:38,624 Heritage Records is one of the biggest neo-Nazi record labels. 518 00:28:38,684 --> 00:28:43,064 I read your books. Kyle Mellors doesn't exactly seem to fit the profile. 519 00:28:43,121 --> 00:28:45,727 You know, I thought neo-Nazis shaved their heads. 520 00:28:45,791 --> 00:28:48,738 Work boots, tattoos. That's the old profile. 521 00:28:48,794 --> 00:28:50,740 They're learning how to mainstream. 522 00:28:50,796 --> 00:28:53,936 They finally realized the more they blend in, the more effective they'll be. 523 00:28:53,999 --> 00:28:56,309 C.D.'s, Web sites, video games... 524 00:28:56,368 --> 00:28:59,815 The movement's discovered a variety of ways to disseminate the message. 525 00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:02,853 This generates millions of dollars in revenue annually. 526 00:29:02,908 --> 00:29:06,651 Where does the money go? To fund various causes and activities. 527 00:29:06,712 --> 00:29:09,750 Their ultimate goal is the creation of a white Christian nation... 528 00:29:09,815 --> 00:29:12,091 cleansed of minorities. 529 00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:14,687 That's insane. Yeah, they want to destroy our government, 530 00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:17,666 our Constitution, the very system of justice that protects them. 531 00:29:17,723 --> 00:29:20,033 They're terrorists. Absolutely. 532 00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:23,437 Oklahoma City has been eclipsed by the events of 9/11. 533 00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:26,032 But these American terrorists are still out there, 534 00:29:26,098 --> 00:29:28,135 and we can't necessarily tell who they are. 535 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,806 Mellors seems to have had a normal suburban childhood. 536 00:29:30,869 --> 00:29:33,873 His dad's a doctor. Mom works in an office. 537 00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:38,217 But here's something interesting: He's been to Germany every summer the last four years. 538 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:41,815 Back to the source. A right-wing nationalist music festival. 539 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,622 He promotes his bands, smuggles his C.D.'s into Germany. 540 00:29:44,683 --> 00:29:47,425 He sells them on the black market. They're illegal there. 541 00:29:47,486 --> 00:29:50,729 Gets to rub elbows with neo-Nazis from all over the world. 542 00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:53,269 That must give him a charge. He may also feel diminished... 543 00:29:53,325 --> 00:29:55,828 by the hardcore kids in comparison. 544 00:29:55,894 --> 00:29:59,933 A middle-class boy like Mellors probably has no experience with actual violence. 545 00:29:59,998 --> 00:30:02,501 So up to this point, it's all been vicarious. 546 00:30:02,568 --> 00:30:04,775 So, maybe he wants a taste of the real thing. 547 00:30:04,837 --> 00:30:06,942 [Phone Ringing] Excuse me. 548 00:30:10,375 --> 00:30:12,377 Southerlyn. 549 00:30:16,081 --> 00:30:18,027 Pick him up. 550 00:30:21,353 --> 00:30:23,799 Back again? Yeah. Remember the C.D. you laid on us? 551 00:30:23,855 --> 00:30:25,801 Oh, you like it? Oh, we loved it. 552 00:30:25,857 --> 00:30:28,929 Especially the part where your fingerprints match some prints we found at the crime scene. 553 00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:31,736 You're under arrest for the murder of Leah Glaser. Call Graham Wilson. 554 00:30:31,797 --> 00:30:34,209 You have the right to remain silent, which I highly recommend. 555 00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:36,473 You have the right to an attorney [Continues, Indistinct] 556 00:30:36,535 --> 00:30:39,880 You're going down Mr. Mellors, and your hero's going with you. 557 00:30:39,938 --> 00:30:41,975 What if it was an accident? 558 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,283 If someone went there to talk to her, not to kill her, 559 00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:48,848 and events transpired in a certain tragic, unforeseen way, 560 00:30:48,914 --> 00:30:50,860 wouldn't that be manslaughter? 561 00:30:50,916 --> 00:30:53,760 We know that Leah Glaser didn't die accidentally. 562 00:30:53,819 --> 00:30:57,323 After her killer knocked her down and cracked her skull, he smothered her. 563 00:30:57,389 --> 00:31:01,735 [McCoy] I won't entertain anything less than murder one for Mr. Anders. 564 00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:04,535 Your client, on the other hand, can still plead to murder two as a hate crime. 565 00:31:04,596 --> 00:31:07,543 As a hate crime? What the hell does that mean? 566 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:10,045 Adds five years to your sentence. 567 00:31:10,102 --> 00:31:12,582 [McCoy] Twenty to life, Mr. Mellors. That's as good as it gets. 568 00:31:12,638 --> 00:31:17,383 Tell us what transpired between you and Mr. Anders, and you may not spend the rest of your life in prison. 569 00:31:17,442 --> 00:31:21,515 I keep telling you... Mr. Anders had nothing to do with this. 570 00:31:23,615 --> 00:31:25,856 How would you know if you weren't there? 571 00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:32,228 Just as I thought. We're trying you both for murder in the first degree. 572 00:31:32,291 --> 00:31:34,237 Together. 573 00:31:37,462 --> 00:31:41,171 Mellors can bob and weave as much as he wants. I have no doubt of his guilt. 574 00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:43,713 You're still on the fence about Anders? 575 00:31:43,769 --> 00:31:47,911 I want to be sure I'm trying Anders for the crimes he committed in this century, 576 00:31:47,973 --> 00:31:50,214 not the ones he committed in the past. 577 00:31:50,275 --> 00:31:54,417 Some of the strongest cases we've tried have been based on circumstantial evidence. 578 00:31:54,479 --> 00:31:56,720 Despite his protestations to the contrary, 579 00:31:56,782 --> 00:31:59,786 Anders stood to substantially gain from her death. 580 00:31:59,851 --> 00:32:01,831 His D.N.A. was at the crime scene, 581 00:32:01,887 --> 00:32:06,734 and he had the locket that she wore around her neck every day of her life in his possession. 582 00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:11,935 I mean, except for a videotape of the crime, I can't think of what more you could want. 583 00:32:11,997 --> 00:32:16,139 Mellors keeps claiming that Anders wasn't involved. 584 00:32:16,201 --> 00:32:19,182 Well, let him take the stand and tell that to the jury. 585 00:32:19,237 --> 00:32:21,183 I don't think he'll be taking the stand. 586 00:32:21,239 --> 00:32:24,015 We'd bury him with all this neo-Nazi stuff. 587 00:32:24,075 --> 00:32:26,783 No, I don't suppose he would. 588 00:32:26,845 --> 00:32:29,655 Which means that Anders just about has to. 589 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,800 We analyzed a set of bilateral thumbprints... 590 00:32:37,856 --> 00:32:40,700 and two full sets of fingerprints found on the frame... 591 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:42,830 surrounding Mrs. Glaser's door. 592 00:32:42,894 --> 00:32:47,604 - Did you identify these fingerprints? - Yes. They belong to the defendant, Kyle Mellors. 593 00:32:47,666 --> 00:32:51,409 Did you find any other fingerprints belonging to Mr. Mellors? 594 00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:55,418 Yes. On Mrs. Glaser's locket, we found a thumb and forefinger. 595 00:32:55,473 --> 00:32:57,976 What about the co-defendant, Stefan Anders? 596 00:32:58,043 --> 00:33:01,456 His prints were also found on Mrs. Glaser's locket What about at the crime scene? 597 00:33:01,513 --> 00:33:05,552 No prints. However, the Latent unit did find two sweat smudges... 598 00:33:05,617 --> 00:33:08,029 one on the doorknob and one on the door... 599 00:33:08,086 --> 00:33:10,760 about five feet, eight inches from the floor. 600 00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:14,429 - Were you able to make a positive I.D.? - They belong to the defendant, Stefan Anders. 601 00:33:14,493 --> 00:33:18,964 And your conclusion about how these smudge came to be on Mrs. Glaser's door? 602 00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:21,101 The height of the defendant indicates... 603 00:33:21,166 --> 00:33:24,375 he gripped the doorknob and leaned his forehead against the door. 604 00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:29,982 No questions of this witness, Your Honor. 605 00:33:30,041 --> 00:33:32,487 Did you find traces of my client... 606 00:33:32,544 --> 00:33:35,457 anywhere inside Mrs. Glaser's apartment? 607 00:33:35,513 --> 00:33:37,186 None. 608 00:33:37,249 --> 00:33:40,196 So, your analysis puts my client at her door, 609 00:33:40,252 --> 00:33:42,198 but not inside her apartment? 610 00:33:42,254 --> 00:33:44,666 Yes. 611 00:33:44,723 --> 00:33:46,760 Now, scientifically, you can't determine... 612 00:33:46,825 --> 00:33:51,570 whether the D.N.A. sample and the various prints were left at the same time, can you? 613 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:53,337 No. 614 00:33:53,398 --> 00:33:56,811 So, for all you know, my client, Stefan Anders, 615 00:33:56,868 --> 00:34:00,042 was there one day outside the apartment door... 616 00:34:00,105 --> 00:34:03,746 and Mr. Mellors on another day entirely... 617 00:34:03,808 --> 00:34:06,880 outside and inside the apartment? 618 00:34:06,945 --> 00:34:08,982 That's certainly possible, yes. 619 00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:13,151 No further questions. 620 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:23,261 As the co-owner of Heritage Records with Mr. Mellors, what is your mission statement? 621 00:34:23,328 --> 00:34:25,968 To make money. No ideology? 622 00:34:26,031 --> 00:34:28,841 Capitalism. Capitalism is our ideology. 623 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,608 Are you a Nazi, neo-Nazi, fascist? 624 00:34:31,670 --> 00:34:35,243 I've been called all those things, but what I am is an independent entrepreneur. 625 00:34:35,307 --> 00:34:37,253 Is Mr. Mellors a neo-Nazi? 626 00:34:37,309 --> 00:34:39,289 Objection! If Mr. Mellors... 627 00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:41,915 wants to speak to his political beliefs, 628 00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:43,926 let him take the stand. 629 00:34:43,982 --> 00:34:47,520 - Sustained. - Some of your bands espouse rather radical views. 630 00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:50,065 That's their right under the First Amendment. 631 00:34:50,121 --> 00:34:53,466 Do you share their views? I believe in what sells. 632 00:34:53,525 --> 00:34:55,471 Look, it's just music. 633 00:34:55,527 --> 00:34:57,529 It's loud, it's extreme, it's rebellious, 634 00:34:57,596 --> 00:35:00,805 it's in-your-face, and it drives their parents crazy. 635 00:35:00,866 --> 00:35:04,814 That's why the kids like it. That's what it's all about. 636 00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:06,872 It's just music? 637 00:35:09,241 --> 00:35:11,517 “Kill all the niggers, 638 00:35:11,576 --> 00:35:13,886 “kill all the Jews, 639 00:35:13,945 --> 00:35:17,119 fire up the ovens, there's no time to lose." 640 00:35:17,182 --> 00:35:20,186 - Do you recognize these lyrics? - I can't say that I do. 641 00:35:20,252 --> 00:35:24,257 They're from an album you produced with Kyle Mellors. 642 00:35:24,322 --> 00:35:26,666 The group is called American Reichstag. 643 00:35:26,725 --> 00:35:30,798 Do you think every black record exec who produces a gangster rap track... 644 00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:33,206 thinks we should kill cops or, uh, 645 00:35:33,265 --> 00:35:35,745 beat those ho's and bitches? 646 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,646 - It's about selling records. - Critics call it “hate rock." 647 00:35:39,704 --> 00:35:42,241 Your own Web site calls it “hate core." 648 00:35:42,307 --> 00:35:46,153 People who buy it also call it "heritage music. ” 649 00:35:46,211 --> 00:35:50,421 It's music. Don't we still have freedom of speech in this country? 650 00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:52,462 The First Amendment isn't absolute. 651 00:35:52,517 --> 00:35:56,966 If your speech incites and results in violence, it's not protected. 652 00:35:57,022 --> 00:36:00,026 Isn't that what you're doing? Inciting people to kill? No. 653 00:36:00,091 --> 00:36:02,435 We're inciting people to buy records. 654 00:36:02,494 --> 00:36:04,997 “Kill all the blacks. 655 00:36:05,063 --> 00:36:08,306 Kill all the Jews." 656 00:36:08,366 --> 00:36:11,142 If one of your songs results in someone's death, 657 00:36:11,202 --> 00:36:14,183 aren't you culpable? I don't see it that way. 658 00:36:15,473 --> 00:36:17,817 Right. You're just putting money... 659 00:36:17,876 --> 00:36:19,981 in the pockets of people who advocate... 660 00:36:20,045 --> 00:36:22,651 the extermination of other human beings. 661 00:36:25,617 --> 00:36:27,927 I went to her apartment. 662 00:36:27,986 --> 00:36:30,557 Not the day of the murder... another day. 663 00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:36,036 I thought if she looked in my eyes, 664 00:36:36,094 --> 00:36:39,564 she would see I am not the man she thought I was. 665 00:36:39,631 --> 00:36:42,669 Did you see her? She wouldn't open the door, so I spoke to her... 666 00:36:42,734 --> 00:36:45,681 for a few minutes from the hall, 667 00:36:45,737 --> 00:36:48,411 and she asked me to leave and I left. 668 00:36:48,473 --> 00:36:51,920 And Leah Glaser was still alive. Of course. 669 00:36:51,976 --> 00:36:54,684 You were a guard at Bobrek. 670 00:36:56,314 --> 00:37:00,524 I was a soldier. I went where I was ordered to go. 671 00:37:00,585 --> 00:37:02,690 Did you ever kill anyone? 672 00:37:02,754 --> 00:37:06,201 In combat? Probably. 673 00:37:06,258 --> 00:37:08,829 But at the camp? No. Definitely no. 674 00:37:08,893 --> 00:37:12,238 Did you know the deceased, Leah Glaser? No. 675 00:37:12,297 --> 00:37:14,709 Did you remember her at all from the camp? 676 00:37:14,766 --> 00:37:17,042 It was 60 years ago. 677 00:37:17,102 --> 00:37:20,083 There were hundreds of prisoners. I don't remember them. 678 00:37:20,138 --> 00:37:22,049 She remembered you. 679 00:37:22,107 --> 00:37:24,246 She saw me every day... 680 00:37:24,309 --> 00:37:26,255 every morning, every evening. 681 00:37:26,311 --> 00:37:28,689 She saw my photograph; she recognized me. 682 00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:32,593 She remembered me from the camp, okay, but she was confused. 683 00:37:32,650 --> 00:37:36,860 She has me confused with someone else, another guard 684 00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:41,370 I didn't kill anyone in the camp, and I didn't kill her. I had no reason to. 685 00:37:41,426 --> 00:37:45,101 Her death is the worst thing that could have happened to me. 686 00:37:45,163 --> 00:37:49,009 Whatever happens here, now I will be deported. 687 00:37:49,067 --> 00:37:52,207 Because someone killed her. 688 00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:54,648 Someone. 689 00:37:54,706 --> 00:37:57,118 Not me. 690 00:37:57,175 --> 00:37:59,917 [Jensen] Your witness. 691 00:38:01,246 --> 00:38:04,489 You weren't the guard Leah Glaser remembered from the camp? 692 00:38:04,549 --> 00:38:08,326 - The one she saw kill six prisoners? - No. 693 00:38:10,588 --> 00:38:14,434 I have no further questions for this witness at this time, Your Honor. 694 00:38:14,492 --> 00:38:17,803 I reserve the right to continue my cross-examination. 695 00:38:17,862 --> 00:38:21,275 - Mr. Jensen? - In that case, Your Honor, 696 00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:23,335 the defendant, Anders, rests. 697 00:38:23,401 --> 00:38:26,780 Mr. Wilson? Yes, Your Honor. The defendant, Mellors, rests. 698 00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:30,350 The witness may step down. 699 00:38:32,043 --> 00:38:36,458 Your Honor, I would like to call a rebuttal witness. Leah Glaser. 700 00:38:36,514 --> 00:38:39,688 Your Honor, I would like to renew my application... 701 00:38:39,751 --> 00:38:43,426 to exclude this videotaped testimony as highly prejudicial. 702 00:38:43,488 --> 00:38:45,468 Her Shoah testimony directly refutes... 703 00:38:45,523 --> 00:38:48,333 what Mr. Anders just testified to under oath. 704 00:38:48,393 --> 00:38:50,771 Your Honor, it's hearsay, it's prejudicial. 705 00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:52,968 There's obviously no opportunity to cross-examine. 706 00:38:53,031 --> 00:38:56,672 Mr. Jensen had ample opportunity to cross-examine Leah Glaser... 707 00:38:56,735 --> 00:38:59,113 when he deposed her on this very subject. 708 00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:03,277 Counsel can read the relevant portions of that proceeding into the record. 709 00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:06,015 Your Honor, this is not fair! 710 00:39:06,077 --> 00:39:09,820 The emotional impact of seeing the deceased's videotaped testimony... 711 00:39:09,881 --> 00:39:13,226 will far outweigh a dry reading of a deposition. 712 00:39:13,284 --> 00:39:15,764 I'll review your memos once more. 713 00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:18,960 Court will stand at recess until 2:00. 714 00:39:25,663 --> 00:39:29,702 The guards would walk us to and from the factory each day 715 00:39:31,336 --> 00:39:33,282 Some of them, 716 00:39:33,338 --> 00:39:36,342 if we did not walk quickly, 717 00:39:36,407 --> 00:39:38,353 they would beat us. 718 00:39:38,410 --> 00:39:42,381 The one in charge, he was different. 719 00:39:42,447 --> 00:39:45,257 “Bitte, bitte," he would always say, "Please. ” 720 00:39:46,351 --> 00:39:48,695 He was polite. 721 00:39:48,753 --> 00:39:50,892 Always polite. 722 00:39:50,955 --> 00:39:53,834 Beautiful manners, elegant, 723 00:39:53,892 --> 00:39:56,896 but cold... cold as ice. 724 00:39:58,096 --> 00:40:00,167 Not human. 725 00:40:00,231 --> 00:40:03,678 His name was Anders, I think. 726 00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:08,582 One day, one of the prisoners fell and couldn't get up. 727 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,679 He came over. "Bitte, bitte, "I heard him say. 728 00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:15,554 “Get up, please." 729 00:40:18,183 --> 00:40:21,653 She couldn't get up, 730 00:40:24,022 --> 00:40:26,866 so he shot her... 731 00:40:26,925 --> 00:40:28,905 in the face. 732 00:40:30,762 --> 00:40:33,436 And then he shot five other women, 733 00:40:33,498 --> 00:40:36,069 the ones who cried. 734 00:40:36,134 --> 00:40:39,980 One, two, three, four, five. 735 00:40:42,207 --> 00:40:44,619 Like it was nothing. 736 00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:51,725 And then he looked at the rest of us and said, "Bitte, bitte," 737 00:40:51,783 --> 00:40:55,094 and we went to work like nothing happened. 738 00:40:57,155 --> 00:41:00,398 The fifth one he shot, number five, 739 00:41:03,161 --> 00:41:05,573 was my sister Rebekkah, 740 00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:12,815 my little sister. 741 00:41:14,439 --> 00:41:16,419 [Sobs] 742 00:41:17,942 --> 00:41:19,922 Why? 743 00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:33,967 [Judge Karan] Have you reached a verdict? We have. 744 00:41:34,025 --> 00:41:36,266 As to the defendant Kyle Mellors, 745 00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:39,797 on the first count of the indictment, murder in the first degree, how do you find? 746 00:41:39,864 --> 00:41:44,040 We find the defendant, Kyle Mellors, guilty 747 00:41:44,102 --> 00:41:46,173 As to the defendant Stefan Anders, 748 00:41:46,237 --> 00:41:49,309 on the first count of the indictment, murder in the first degree, 749 00:41:49,374 --> 00:41:54,050 how do you find? We find the defendant, Stefan Anders, guilty. 750 00:42:14,432 --> 00:42:16,742 Think Anders is telling the truth, 751 00:42:16,801 --> 00:42:20,180 that he didn't have anything to do with Leah Glaser's murder? 752 00:42:20,238 --> 00:42:22,878 They knew a guilty man when they saw one. 753 00:43:11,723 --> 00:43:14,670 [Howling] 63009

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