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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:05,350 --> 00:00:08,456 [ Film projector clicking ] 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:16,602 --> 00:00:19,605 ♪♪ 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:25,163 -He paints the soul, not just an image. 6 00:00:25,197 --> 00:00:28,062 -That was what was amazing about my father. 7 00:00:28,097 --> 00:00:31,031 He saw things that other people just wouldn't see. 8 00:00:31,065 --> 00:00:32,308 [ Creaks ] 9 00:00:32,342 --> 00:00:36,726 -He had almost a painful sensitivity. 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,729 -The abstraction in his pictures. 11 00:00:39,763 --> 00:00:42,180 The fantastic compositional sense. 12 00:00:42,214 --> 00:00:43,560 And the toughness in them. 13 00:00:43,595 --> 00:00:45,010 [ Pencil scratching ] 14 00:00:45,045 --> 00:00:46,494 In some ways the sadness, 15 00:00:46,529 --> 00:00:48,565 the meditations on death and nature... 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,464 [ Thunder rumbles ] 17 00:00:50,498 --> 00:00:52,224 ...they're so 20th century. 18 00:00:52,259 --> 00:00:54,468 -There's a darkness to Andrew Wyeth's work. 19 00:00:54,502 --> 00:00:56,159 There's a drama. 20 00:00:56,194 --> 00:00:59,369 -If you really look at his work, it's pretty scary stuff. 21 00:00:59,404 --> 00:01:01,233 It's kind of like a Robert Frost poem. 22 00:01:01,268 --> 00:01:04,133 You could say it's some horse in the woods with a sleigh 23 00:01:04,167 --> 00:01:05,548 and the snow, but really read it, 24 00:01:05,582 --> 00:01:08,447 it's a hell of a lot more than that. 25 00:01:08,482 --> 00:01:11,761 -Make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. 26 00:01:11,795 --> 00:01:15,454 And you realize that something more is going on in the world. 27 00:01:15,489 --> 00:01:22,116 ♪♪ 28 00:01:22,151 --> 00:01:24,222 [ Bird caws ] 29 00:01:24,256 --> 00:01:27,777 ♪♪ 30 00:01:27,811 --> 00:01:29,710 [ Bird caws ] 31 00:01:29,744 --> 00:01:34,197 ♪♪ 32 00:01:34,232 --> 00:01:36,786 -Andrew Wyeth is one of the most highly regarded 33 00:01:36,820 --> 00:01:39,375 of American painters, if not themost. 34 00:01:39,409 --> 00:01:41,515 -Andrew Wyeth, leading American artist, 35 00:01:41,549 --> 00:01:43,206 is honored at the White House. 36 00:01:43,241 --> 00:01:45,346 -This is the Whitney Museum in New York. 37 00:01:45,381 --> 00:01:48,453 Normal daily attendance of art lovers, 500. 38 00:01:48,487 --> 00:01:52,284 For a recent Wyeth exhibit, the average was 5,000 a day. 39 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:54,424 Attendance records were broken in Philadelphia, 40 00:01:54,459 --> 00:01:56,150 Baltimore, and Chicago, too. 41 00:01:56,185 --> 00:02:00,327 -In the '60s, Andrew Wyeth was the very top artist. 42 00:02:00,361 --> 00:02:03,157 -There is something in Wyeth that appeals to the uninitiated 43 00:02:03,192 --> 00:02:04,814 and the connoisseur alike. 44 00:02:04,848 --> 00:02:06,816 He has a mass audience that may be greater 45 00:02:06,850 --> 00:02:08,818 than any other living artist ever had. 46 00:02:08,852 --> 00:02:11,821 -In a way, his popular following was a curse. 47 00:02:11,855 --> 00:02:14,824 -He had a huge audience, he had many collectors, 48 00:02:14,858 --> 00:02:16,515 and he was criticized for that. 49 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:17,827 -Poor Andrew Wyeth. 50 00:02:17,861 --> 00:02:19,553 He has committed the final sins 51 00:02:19,587 --> 00:02:21,175 against the art establishment. 52 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:23,453 People like his work, and he's making money now 53 00:02:23,488 --> 00:02:25,559 instead of 400 years after his death. 54 00:02:25,593 --> 00:02:29,321 -There were lines around the block at the Whitney, 55 00:02:29,356 --> 00:02:32,082 but that was also the kiss of death. 56 00:02:32,117 --> 00:02:35,569 ♪♪ 57 00:02:35,603 --> 00:02:39,124 -I first met the Wyeths in the early '70s. 58 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:42,438 I came out to Chadds Ford to meet Betsy and Andrew Wyeth, 59 00:02:42,472 --> 00:02:46,442 and found both of them very interesting people. 60 00:02:46,476 --> 00:02:50,446 I think I somehow thought Andrew Wyeth 61 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,278 would be more of a bumpkin, or a hermit or a farmer type, 62 00:02:55,313 --> 00:02:58,108 but what I found was somebody who served me 63 00:02:58,143 --> 00:03:00,525 the strongest cocktail I'd had in a long time, 64 00:03:00,559 --> 00:03:02,285 who made me laugh, 65 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,220 and I found his wife beautiful, but also very clearly, 66 00:03:06,255 --> 00:03:08,602 I was going to have to win her approval, 67 00:03:08,636 --> 00:03:12,122 because she wanted only the best for Andrew Wyeth. 68 00:03:12,157 --> 00:03:15,574 But I also came away thinking this is a much more complicated 69 00:03:15,609 --> 00:03:19,578 and interesting artist than I think I know 70 00:03:19,613 --> 00:03:22,754 from what's been written about him in the past. 71 00:03:22,788 --> 00:03:25,205 ♪♪ 72 00:03:25,239 --> 00:03:29,174 -One thing that stands out about Andrew Wyeth's work 73 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:33,351 in contrast to the work of most of his contemporaries 74 00:03:33,385 --> 00:03:38,701 is that he grew up and lived in two places and two places alone 75 00:03:38,735 --> 00:03:42,601 during a long and productive life as an artist -- 76 00:03:42,636 --> 00:03:46,156 Chadds Ford... 77 00:03:46,191 --> 00:03:47,261 [ Bell clangs ] 78 00:03:47,296 --> 00:03:50,264 ...Port Clyde and Cushing. 79 00:03:50,299 --> 00:03:52,266 The places that define his life 80 00:03:52,301 --> 00:03:56,788 were these two rural communities. 81 00:03:56,822 --> 00:04:00,930 New York was the center of the art world. 82 00:04:00,964 --> 00:04:05,693 That was not Andy's world. 83 00:04:05,728 --> 00:04:07,971 -Painting to me 84 00:04:08,006 --> 00:04:10,526 is a matter of truth 85 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,289 and... 86 00:04:15,324 --> 00:04:18,948 maybe of memory. 87 00:04:18,982 --> 00:04:22,814 ♪♪ 88 00:04:22,848 --> 00:04:27,715 -He had an extraordinary childhood. 89 00:04:27,750 --> 00:04:31,616 Most artists struggle to find themselves as artists. 90 00:04:31,650 --> 00:04:35,551 Wyeth was raised from childhood to be an artist -- 91 00:04:35,585 --> 00:04:37,967 Protected, cultivated. 92 00:04:38,001 --> 00:04:40,556 I think of him like an Olympic athlete. 93 00:04:40,590 --> 00:04:43,731 N.C. Wyeth, his dad, developed him, 94 00:04:43,766 --> 00:04:45,733 trained him, encouraged him. 95 00:04:45,768 --> 00:04:51,014 -He taught me everyday living, seeing things around me. 96 00:04:51,049 --> 00:04:56,330 Seeing the imagination of what you can make out of nothing. 97 00:04:56,365 --> 00:05:00,748 -N.C. Wyeth was a famous classic illustrator. 98 00:05:00,783 --> 00:05:03,855 He painted big, bold illustrations. 99 00:05:03,889 --> 00:05:06,927 ♪♪ 100 00:05:06,961 --> 00:05:09,619 -N.C. Wyeth moved to this area 101 00:05:09,654 --> 00:05:11,932 in order to study with Howard Pyle who had 102 00:05:11,966 --> 00:05:16,764 a summer school in Chadds Ford up near the Brandywine Valley. 103 00:05:16,799 --> 00:05:22,598 Howard Pyle was known as the father of American illustration. 104 00:05:22,632 --> 00:05:26,671 ♪♪ 105 00:05:26,705 --> 00:05:31,365 People say his best student was N.C. Wyeth. 106 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,988 Howard Pyle instilled in all his students 107 00:05:34,023 --> 00:05:37,371 a number of things that show up all through the Wyeths, 108 00:05:37,406 --> 00:05:39,615 and one of them is the Brandywine Valley. 109 00:05:39,649 --> 00:05:43,998 Just scrape the earth, and you find the battlefields 110 00:05:44,033 --> 00:05:46,587 and you find the blood and you find the soldiers 111 00:05:46,622 --> 00:05:51,454 and the powders on their trousers from the Revolution. 112 00:05:51,489 --> 00:05:55,631 -N.C. Wyeth was struck by this area. 113 00:05:55,665 --> 00:05:59,013 -"Among those misty grey hills of Chadds Ford, 114 00:05:59,048 --> 00:06:00,981 along the stretches of those succulent meadows 115 00:06:01,015 --> 00:06:04,398 with their peaceful cattle, and those big sad trees, 116 00:06:04,433 --> 00:06:06,020 and the quaint and humble stone farmhouses 117 00:06:06,055 --> 00:06:08,609 tucked underneath them, there is that spirit 118 00:06:08,644 --> 00:06:12,579 which exactly appeals to the deepest appreciation of my soul. 119 00:06:12,613 --> 00:06:13,890 To me, it is all like 120 00:06:13,925 --> 00:06:16,548 wonderfully soft and liquid music." 121 00:06:16,583 --> 00:06:18,067 ♪♪ 122 00:06:18,101 --> 00:06:21,829 -N.C. Wyeth, very quickly, within six years or so, 123 00:06:21,864 --> 00:06:25,592 became very famous as a western artist. 124 00:06:25,626 --> 00:06:29,630 [ Indistinct shouting ] [ Gunshots ] 125 00:06:29,665 --> 00:06:33,496 Scribner's Books was one of his major clients. 126 00:06:33,531 --> 00:06:36,775 In 1911, they offered him a commission 127 00:06:36,810 --> 00:06:40,054 to illustrate "Treasure Island." 128 00:06:40,089 --> 00:06:45,405 They were an absolute sensation, and for the next decade, 129 00:06:45,439 --> 00:06:48,649 he churned out these Scribner's books -- 130 00:06:48,684 --> 00:06:50,927 all the classics -- "Robinson Crusoe," 131 00:06:50,962 --> 00:06:53,861 "The Boy's King Arthur." 132 00:06:53,896 --> 00:06:57,451 -I think today we have a much broader understanding 133 00:06:57,486 --> 00:06:59,004 of N.C. Wyeth. 134 00:06:59,039 --> 00:07:00,696 He has a reputation today 135 00:07:00,730 --> 00:07:04,424 he didn't really enjoy seeing in his own lifetime. 136 00:07:04,458 --> 00:07:10,015 -He very much wanted to be a painter, not an illustrator. 137 00:07:10,050 --> 00:07:13,122 And in the first half of the 20th Century, 138 00:07:13,156 --> 00:07:14,675 that was a distinction 139 00:07:14,710 --> 00:07:18,645 that almost everyone in the art business made. 140 00:07:18,679 --> 00:07:20,612 -"I want to be a painter. 141 00:07:20,647 --> 00:07:22,856 I respect illustration, but I realize, 142 00:07:22,890 --> 00:07:25,617 keener than ever before, the terrible rut I'm in. 143 00:07:25,652 --> 00:07:27,447 A dangerous one, too. 144 00:07:27,481 --> 00:07:29,794 I shall continue illustrating by all means, 145 00:07:29,828 --> 00:07:31,899 that has its commercial value, my bread and butter, 146 00:07:31,934 --> 00:07:34,592 but I want to be able to paint a picture. 147 00:07:34,626 --> 00:07:36,801 And this is as far from the realms of illustration 148 00:07:36,835 --> 00:07:38,527 as black is from white. 149 00:07:38,561 --> 00:07:41,875 I want to paint a picture with nothing but a soul. 150 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:46,742 ♪♪ 151 00:07:46,776 --> 00:07:51,609 ♪♪ 152 00:07:51,643 --> 00:07:55,578 -He was a generous man, he was not a selfish man, 153 00:07:55,613 --> 00:07:59,168 and you gotta be selfish to paint. 154 00:07:59,202 --> 00:08:04,000 His love for the family overpowered him. 155 00:08:04,035 --> 00:08:05,761 ♪♪ 156 00:08:05,795 --> 00:08:08,867 -He and his wife ended up having a family of five children. 157 00:08:08,902 --> 00:08:11,870 There were three girls and two boys. 158 00:08:11,905 --> 00:08:14,148 It was a very creative family. 159 00:08:14,183 --> 00:08:17,738 Henriette, Carolyn, and Andrew would become painters, 160 00:08:17,773 --> 00:08:22,502 Nat, a chemical engineer, and Ann, a composer. 161 00:08:22,536 --> 00:08:26,506 -N.C. Wyeth thought that creative adults 162 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:28,922 retained the spirit of childhood. 163 00:08:28,956 --> 00:08:34,514 So it was very important for him to make that childhood 164 00:08:34,548 --> 00:08:37,931 for each of his children so incredibly valuable 165 00:08:37,965 --> 00:08:39,898 through memory. 166 00:08:39,933 --> 00:08:44,731 -N.C. had an ability to transform ordinary occurrences 167 00:08:44,765 --> 00:08:46,629 into bigger and better drama 168 00:08:46,664 --> 00:08:49,045 than they might have held themselves. 169 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,601 -The Christmases that he created for his children. 170 00:08:52,635 --> 00:08:55,086 He would dress as Santa Claus. 171 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,985 It wasn't the traditional St. Nick that we know. 172 00:08:58,020 --> 00:09:00,712 And he had a rather grotesque mask. 173 00:09:00,747 --> 00:09:04,198 -Old Kris, as we called him, was to me a terrifying man. 174 00:09:04,233 --> 00:09:05,959 He was a big man. 175 00:09:05,993 --> 00:09:09,203 And I remember when I was about 8 years old lying in bed 176 00:09:09,238 --> 00:09:13,691 and we heard stamping feet on the top of the roof. 177 00:09:13,725 --> 00:09:17,557 And I was terrified... 178 00:09:17,591 --> 00:09:20,974 to the point that I wet the bed. 179 00:09:21,008 --> 00:09:24,978 I just tell you that story 'cause that's how he believed 180 00:09:25,012 --> 00:09:28,602 in exciting our imaginations. 181 00:09:28,637 --> 00:09:32,572 -N.C. Wyeth knew that he wanted to be very involved 182 00:09:32,606 --> 00:09:35,575 in the upbringing of his children, 183 00:09:35,609 --> 00:09:37,266 and so he built this studio, 184 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:42,616 which is literally 25 steps away from the house. 185 00:09:42,651 --> 00:09:45,688 -I can just imagine what a magical place 186 00:09:45,723 --> 00:09:47,863 this must have been as a little kid 187 00:09:47,897 --> 00:09:49,761 to be running around in these spaces 188 00:09:49,796 --> 00:09:52,799 and to be able to see what Daddy was painting, 189 00:09:52,833 --> 00:09:55,802 because he often painted very large-scale works 190 00:09:55,836 --> 00:09:59,633 of figures that were larger than life. 191 00:09:59,668 --> 00:10:01,980 -The studio was full of props 192 00:10:02,015 --> 00:10:06,019 that N.C. Wyeth needed as an illustrator. 193 00:10:06,053 --> 00:10:09,056 There are swords. There are guns here. 194 00:10:09,091 --> 00:10:13,854 There were a lot of costumes -- Robin Hood, King Arthur. 195 00:10:13,889 --> 00:10:19,619 So these were all available to the children. 196 00:10:19,653 --> 00:10:23,726 Everything that could stimulate their imagination. 197 00:10:23,761 --> 00:10:27,661 -And I made up my own stories of what was happening around me. 198 00:10:27,696 --> 00:10:32,632 These hills became Sherwood Forest, 199 00:10:32,666 --> 00:10:35,255 the English countryside, 200 00:10:35,289 --> 00:10:37,844 or the battlefields of France. 201 00:10:37,878 --> 00:10:42,020 ♪♪ 202 00:10:42,055 --> 00:10:46,059 All these imaginary things floated through my mind. 203 00:10:46,093 --> 00:10:47,750 [ Bird calling ] 204 00:10:47,785 --> 00:10:49,890 ♪♪ 205 00:10:49,925 --> 00:10:52,962 -One of the things that most fascinated Andrew Wyeth 206 00:10:52,997 --> 00:10:56,103 was the amount of World War I objects 207 00:10:56,138 --> 00:10:58,830 that were here in the studio. 208 00:10:58,865 --> 00:11:03,110 N.C. Wyeth did not go abroad during World War I, 209 00:11:03,145 --> 00:11:07,149 but he was critically aware that he was not experiencing 210 00:11:07,183 --> 00:11:09,151 the war as many artists did, 211 00:11:09,185 --> 00:11:13,949 so he spent a lot of time saving photographs 212 00:11:13,983 --> 00:11:18,125 of the battlefields in France, the trenches, 213 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,645 villages that had been totally bombed. 214 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,164 [ Projectiles whistling, explosions ] 215 00:11:22,198 --> 00:11:24,649 [ Gunfire ] 216 00:11:24,684 --> 00:11:30,275 -N.C. Wyeth also had in the studio boxes of stereo cards, 217 00:11:30,310 --> 00:11:34,038 two images taken by a dual camera. 218 00:11:34,072 --> 00:11:37,144 He would put these in a hand-held machine, 219 00:11:37,179 --> 00:11:39,975 the two images on the card would come into focus, 220 00:11:40,009 --> 00:11:45,118 so you would have this amazing 3-D image in front of you. 221 00:11:45,152 --> 00:11:46,257 [ Propeller whirring, gunfire ] 222 00:11:46,291 --> 00:11:47,983 There were human bodies. 223 00:11:48,017 --> 00:11:49,916 There were horse carcasses. [ Horse neighs ] 224 00:11:49,950 --> 00:11:52,781 There was, of course, all sorts of mangled machinery. 225 00:11:52,815 --> 00:11:54,748 Really, the horror of the war 226 00:11:54,783 --> 00:11:59,201 is absolutely displayed in these images. 227 00:11:59,235 --> 00:12:01,928 Young Andrew Wyeth would sit in the studio here 228 00:12:01,962 --> 00:12:03,205 and page through them. 229 00:12:03,239 --> 00:12:05,241 [ Explosions, gunfire ] 230 00:12:05,276 --> 00:12:07,140 -He collected these small soldiers 231 00:12:07,174 --> 00:12:08,728 which were made in Germany -- 232 00:12:08,762 --> 00:12:13,387 and German soldiers and American soldiers. 233 00:12:13,422 --> 00:12:15,976 -I can look at those soldiers and remember the names 234 00:12:16,011 --> 00:12:18,358 of practically every one of them, 235 00:12:18,392 --> 00:12:20,774 make up my own stories. 236 00:12:20,809 --> 00:12:23,087 ♪♪ 237 00:12:23,121 --> 00:12:25,330 -"The Big Parade," the movie by King Vidor, 238 00:12:25,365 --> 00:12:27,781 which he saw as a child, 239 00:12:27,816 --> 00:12:31,889 he was deeply influenced by that film. 240 00:12:31,923 --> 00:12:33,338 [ Bombs whistling ] 241 00:12:33,373 --> 00:12:36,031 [ Loud explosions ] 242 00:12:36,065 --> 00:12:40,794 I, myself, watched it at least 30 times with him. 243 00:12:40,829 --> 00:12:44,004 He watched it probably over 200 times. 244 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:47,249 So, you know, that's kind of more than just liking a movie. 245 00:12:47,283 --> 00:12:50,390 -The French girl trying to find him in the crowd, 246 00:12:50,424 --> 00:12:54,187 and the motion of the trucks, 247 00:12:54,221 --> 00:12:58,191 and the gun carriages going, and her figure there. 248 00:12:58,225 --> 00:13:03,886 I thought it was very dramatic leaving her lone figure there 249 00:13:03,921 --> 00:13:07,234 against that rather -- that painted background. 250 00:13:07,269 --> 00:13:12,274 But interesting, what you can do with almost nothing. 251 00:13:12,308 --> 00:13:17,072 ♪♪ 252 00:13:17,106 --> 00:13:21,076 ♪♪ 253 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:23,837 ♪♪ 254 00:13:26,426 --> 00:13:29,463 [ Footsteps ] 255 00:13:29,498 --> 00:13:32,397 -You know, you picked a perfect day here. 256 00:13:32,432 --> 00:13:35,124 This is the type of day my father loved. 257 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:38,300 You know, cold and sort of partly overcast 258 00:13:38,334 --> 00:13:42,200 and not bright and sunny and cheery. 259 00:13:42,235 --> 00:13:43,581 [ Chuckles ] 260 00:13:43,615 --> 00:13:46,032 ♪♪ 261 00:13:46,066 --> 00:13:50,139 -Chadds Ford is nestled in a valley that has seen it grow 262 00:13:50,174 --> 00:13:54,143 but it still has its natural qualities. 263 00:13:54,178 --> 00:13:57,043 There's still an innocence to it. 264 00:13:57,077 --> 00:14:00,909 ♪♪ 265 00:14:00,943 --> 00:14:03,152 -He loved winter. He loved snow. 266 00:14:03,187 --> 00:14:06,121 He liked the bareness of the landscape and the quality. 267 00:14:06,155 --> 00:14:09,124 He could see the bones in the landscape here. 268 00:14:09,158 --> 00:14:11,851 -My father's studio is really these hills and these woods, 269 00:14:11,885 --> 00:14:14,888 and it's not bucolic and pretty, you know? 270 00:14:14,923 --> 00:14:16,338 I mean, it has an edge to it. 271 00:14:16,372 --> 00:14:18,892 There are bare bones. The trees are dying. 272 00:14:18,927 --> 00:14:20,929 That's what he adored. 273 00:14:20,963 --> 00:14:25,140 -I may do a weed in the field or a dead crow 274 00:14:25,174 --> 00:14:28,453 or just leaves under the ice. 275 00:14:28,488 --> 00:14:32,561 I know all of this background and I sense all of this. 276 00:14:32,595 --> 00:14:35,253 -As a young teenager, after he'd accomplished 277 00:14:35,288 --> 00:14:40,189 several remarkable ink drawings of medieval soldiers, 278 00:14:40,224 --> 00:14:42,916 his father realized that he was ready 279 00:14:42,951 --> 00:14:46,333 to enter the studio as a student. 280 00:14:46,368 --> 00:14:50,268 -"Dear Papa, Andy is showing phenomenal ability in drawing, 281 00:14:50,303 --> 00:14:52,443 which is beyond doubt more than a phase." 282 00:14:52,477 --> 00:14:59,036 ♪♪ 283 00:14:59,070 --> 00:15:00,934 "I may establish a man Wyeth 284 00:15:00,969 --> 00:15:03,937 in my studio to carry on after all." 285 00:15:03,972 --> 00:15:06,284 -And he had a rather strict curriculum 286 00:15:06,319 --> 00:15:08,528 that he insisted upon -- you had to learn to draw 287 00:15:08,562 --> 00:15:10,392 before you learn to paint, 288 00:15:10,426 --> 00:15:12,428 and, of course, there would be dad the critic 289 00:15:12,463 --> 00:15:15,052 to give him an immediate critique. 290 00:15:15,086 --> 00:15:17,088 Andrew, I think, said when he was growing up 291 00:15:17,123 --> 00:15:20,126 he was a little sometimes scared of his father 292 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,405 because his father's opinion seemed to count for so much. 293 00:15:23,439 --> 00:15:28,375 N.C. Wyeth was an oil painter. 294 00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:30,930 Tempera he tried his hand at, as well, 295 00:15:30,964 --> 00:15:32,690 but didn't like it as much. 296 00:15:32,724 --> 00:15:34,485 -What is tempera? 297 00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:38,282 Yes, well, it's been going since the early Renaissance. 298 00:15:38,316 --> 00:15:41,595 You have to have an egg. You crack it. 299 00:15:41,630 --> 00:15:44,529 Separate the yolk from the white. 300 00:15:44,564 --> 00:15:46,669 Then, you prick it. 301 00:15:46,704 --> 00:15:50,052 And then you grind it with your pigments 302 00:15:50,087 --> 00:15:52,227 and a little water. 303 00:15:52,261 --> 00:15:56,438 Andrew just took to it immediately. 304 00:15:56,472 --> 00:16:02,996 -As Andrew said, oil is powerful and loud and bright colors, 305 00:16:03,031 --> 00:16:05,688 and tempera is quiet. 306 00:16:05,723 --> 00:16:08,691 ♪♪ 307 00:16:08,726 --> 00:16:14,076 Oil as if by Beethoven, and tempera as if by Bach. 308 00:16:14,111 --> 00:16:19,530 ♪♪ 309 00:16:19,564 --> 00:16:22,360 -He liked the dryness of it. 310 00:16:22,395 --> 00:16:26,399 I think it matched his own brooding quality 311 00:16:26,433 --> 00:16:28,297 in some of his paintings. 312 00:16:28,332 --> 00:16:30,161 -In a funny sense, 313 00:16:30,196 --> 00:16:33,440 I think it's a reaction against his father's work, 314 00:16:33,475 --> 00:16:36,581 which was very bright, very strong colors, 315 00:16:36,616 --> 00:16:39,584 vibrant, and so forth. 316 00:16:39,619 --> 00:16:41,241 -He did a painting, 317 00:16:41,276 --> 00:16:44,175 one of his early temperas, called "Turkey Pond." 318 00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:47,040 It's just this wonderful field with some trees, 319 00:16:47,075 --> 00:16:49,077 with a figure walking away, 320 00:16:49,111 --> 00:16:51,044 and he was very excited about it. 321 00:16:51,079 --> 00:16:53,495 And so he called his father to come see it. 322 00:16:53,529 --> 00:16:55,738 And my grandfather said, 323 00:16:55,773 --> 00:16:58,396 "Andy, you got to put a gun in his hand. 324 00:16:58,431 --> 00:17:01,054 You have to have hunting dogs in it," you know? 325 00:17:01,089 --> 00:17:06,128 Completely missing [Chuckles] what his son was doing. 326 00:17:06,163 --> 00:17:07,647 And I don't think N. C. Wyeth did that 327 00:17:07,681 --> 00:17:09,338 because he was worried 328 00:17:09,373 --> 00:17:11,237 that his son wouldn't be able to survive as a painter. 329 00:17:11,271 --> 00:17:13,618 "You got tell a story, Andy." [ Film projector clicking ] 330 00:17:13,653 --> 00:17:18,037 And as much as my father adored his father's work, 331 00:17:18,071 --> 00:17:22,765 I feel his paintings were a reaction against it, 332 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,390 to say, "There is another way, another voice, 333 00:17:26,424 --> 00:17:28,323 and this is my voice." 334 00:17:28,357 --> 00:17:30,049 ♪♪ 335 00:17:30,083 --> 00:17:32,430 -What other people say about his work, 336 00:17:32,465 --> 00:17:35,157 like the dark tones and all that, 337 00:17:35,192 --> 00:17:37,194 well, that's more like a mystery. 338 00:17:37,228 --> 00:17:40,438 That's not something bad. 339 00:17:40,473 --> 00:17:45,064 It's something that gives you space to dream for yourself. 340 00:17:45,098 --> 00:17:49,585 ♪♪ 341 00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:52,278 When he was painting the earth and the snow in winter, 342 00:17:52,312 --> 00:17:58,318 you can't wait of what's underneath in the snow. 343 00:17:58,353 --> 00:18:00,562 ♪♪ 344 00:18:00,596 --> 00:18:03,703 Life after death. 345 00:18:03,737 --> 00:18:06,326 Always, out of death, comes life again. 346 00:18:06,361 --> 00:18:13,609 ♪♪ 347 00:18:13,644 --> 00:18:16,509 [ Birds calling ] 348 00:18:16,543 --> 00:18:18,752 [ Engine rumbling ] 349 00:18:18,787 --> 00:18:23,826 -This is the house where my father met my mother. 350 00:18:23,861 --> 00:18:27,313 Ma's father was a newspaper editor. 351 00:18:27,347 --> 00:18:29,660 And he had heard of N.C. Wyeth, 352 00:18:29,694 --> 00:18:32,835 and he called upon him in Port Clyde. 353 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:35,873 And when he was there, he met my father, 354 00:18:35,907 --> 00:18:37,392 and he told my father, he said, "You know, 355 00:18:37,426 --> 00:18:39,428 I've got three attractive daughters." 356 00:18:39,463 --> 00:18:42,328 So, my father, on his birthday, a few days later, 357 00:18:42,362 --> 00:18:45,124 drove over here, knocked on the door, 358 00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:48,196 and met my mother. 359 00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:52,821 -When they first met, Betsy's sisters came with him 360 00:18:52,855 --> 00:18:57,170 one day to the other peninsula, where Eight Bells was, 361 00:18:57,205 --> 00:19:01,588 which is where N.C. Wyeth's house was. 362 00:19:01,623 --> 00:19:04,246 Andy was showing them the studio, 363 00:19:04,281 --> 00:19:07,284 and Gwen had had some art training, 364 00:19:07,318 --> 00:19:11,150 and she was going on and on about a painting. 365 00:19:11,184 --> 00:19:13,186 And Betsy's kind of like this. 366 00:19:13,221 --> 00:19:14,774 And he turned to Betsy and he said, 367 00:19:14,808 --> 00:19:17,673 "Miss James, which painting do youlike?" 368 00:19:17,708 --> 00:19:21,194 And she said, "I like that one." 369 00:19:21,229 --> 00:19:22,885 And it was a tempera portrait 370 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,923 of Walt Anderson, his great friend. 371 00:19:25,957 --> 00:19:28,581 ♪♪ 372 00:19:28,615 --> 00:19:32,378 And I think Andrew knew, at that moment, 373 00:19:32,412 --> 00:19:37,590 that this girl knew so much more than he felt his father did, 374 00:19:37,624 --> 00:19:41,904 because no one was encouraging him in tempera painting. 375 00:19:41,939 --> 00:19:44,459 She said, "You know, Mary, 376 00:19:44,493 --> 00:19:48,911 when I was being courted by Andrew Wyeth, 377 00:19:48,946 --> 00:19:52,225 it was a wild, passionate courtship. 378 00:19:52,260 --> 00:19:55,401 I received letters from him every day. 379 00:19:55,435 --> 00:19:57,368 Sometimes two a day. 380 00:19:57,403 --> 00:19:59,784 They had drawings in them, 381 00:19:59,819 --> 00:20:02,615 and I came home and we were married. 382 00:20:02,649 --> 00:20:05,238 And then we went up to Maine. 383 00:20:05,273 --> 00:20:07,861 And we had fun on a boat for a little while, 384 00:20:07,896 --> 00:20:12,659 and then -- pshoo -- right back into the studio. 385 00:20:12,694 --> 00:20:19,321 And I realized, then and there, I came second to his paintings. 386 00:20:19,356 --> 00:20:21,496 Painting was his life. 387 00:20:21,530 --> 00:20:26,432 And I had to choose to be with him or not." 388 00:20:26,466 --> 00:20:30,884 ♪♪ 389 00:20:30,919 --> 00:20:33,887 -My father had absolutely zero interest 390 00:20:33,922 --> 00:20:36,925 in money or possessions. 391 00:20:36,959 --> 00:20:39,410 And so she took all those elements out of his work. 392 00:20:39,445 --> 00:20:42,758 I think, when he started to have a degree of success and whatnot, 393 00:20:42,793 --> 00:20:44,864 she made sure that it wasn't going to impinge 394 00:20:44,898 --> 00:20:46,555 on what he wanted to do, 395 00:20:46,590 --> 00:20:49,662 and all he wanted to do was paint. 396 00:20:49,696 --> 00:20:52,009 -Andrew Wyeth would not be Andrew Wyeth without Betsy. 397 00:20:52,043 --> 00:20:54,736 -At the young age of 18 years old, 398 00:20:54,770 --> 00:20:57,911 Betsy became Andrew's manager. 399 00:20:57,946 --> 00:20:59,637 -She was self-taught. 400 00:20:59,672 --> 00:21:02,675 When he had a dealer, Robert Macbeth, 401 00:21:02,709 --> 00:21:04,884 it's interesting to see some of the early letters 402 00:21:04,918 --> 00:21:10,510 of this young 18-, 19-year-old questioning the commission 403 00:21:10,545 --> 00:21:14,514 that they were paying on some of Andy's work. 404 00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:16,965 -What a pair they were. Oh, my God. 405 00:21:16,999 --> 00:21:20,382 Whoo. What a force! [ Chuckling ] Gosh. 406 00:21:20,417 --> 00:21:23,454 -She was the one that was very strict on him, 407 00:21:23,489 --> 00:21:25,353 forced him to, as she would say, 408 00:21:25,387 --> 00:21:27,631 "work on it until it couldn't be better." 409 00:21:27,665 --> 00:21:29,805 I think that charged him. 410 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,705 -He was very dependent on her eye. 411 00:21:32,739 --> 00:21:36,812 -He would bring a painting home and show it to her proudly 412 00:21:36,847 --> 00:21:38,849 and hang it on the wall in the mill, 413 00:21:38,883 --> 00:21:40,885 and they would work on a title together. 414 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,578 In that painting that he did, the interior, 415 00:21:43,612 --> 00:21:45,649 where the old couple is in the bed, 416 00:21:45,683 --> 00:21:48,686 I got to be there to watch this process of titling it. 417 00:21:48,721 --> 00:21:51,033 His would be something like "Morning Star" -- 418 00:21:51,068 --> 00:21:53,622 there's a star out the window, a planet rising or something. 419 00:21:53,657 --> 00:21:55,452 And Betsy walks around the corner, 420 00:21:55,486 --> 00:21:58,006 from the kitchen, and she looks at us 421 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:03,045 and she looks at the painting, and she says, "Marriage." 422 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,530 And as soon as she said "Marriage," 423 00:22:04,564 --> 00:22:06,014 Andy and I looked at it, 424 00:22:06,048 --> 00:22:09,880 and the whole painting -- voom -- just changed. 425 00:22:09,914 --> 00:22:13,987 It went from being a painting about two people in bed, 426 00:22:14,022 --> 00:22:17,128 with a window and a landscape, 427 00:22:17,163 --> 00:22:23,065 to how difficult a relationship could be. 428 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:26,690 I mean, she was a master at finding that thing 429 00:22:26,724 --> 00:22:29,486 that broke it into another realm. 430 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,384 -And it was all her own thinking, 431 00:22:31,419 --> 00:22:33,006 and she would just do it. 432 00:22:33,041 --> 00:22:34,870 "It's going to be done, it's going to be done this way, 433 00:22:34,905 --> 00:22:36,872 because I say so." 434 00:22:36,907 --> 00:22:38,909 [ Laughs ] 435 00:22:38,943 --> 00:22:42,395 What a remarkable sort of partnership 436 00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:43,603 my mother and father were. 437 00:22:43,638 --> 00:22:46,157 I mean, they both were 438 00:22:46,192 --> 00:22:48,746 two halves of this remarkable whole. 439 00:22:48,781 --> 00:22:53,130 ♪♪ 440 00:22:53,164 --> 00:22:56,823 It was my mother that, shortly after they were married, 441 00:22:56,858 --> 00:22:59,550 said, you know, "You don't want to become an illustrator 442 00:22:59,585 --> 00:23:01,483 like your father. 443 00:23:01,518 --> 00:23:07,420 I mean, come on, break away." 444 00:23:07,455 --> 00:23:10,458 -He was offered, Andrew Wyeth was, 445 00:23:10,492 --> 00:23:14,496 a contract to be an illustrator 446 00:23:14,531 --> 00:23:16,118 for "Saturday Evening Post," 447 00:23:16,153 --> 00:23:20,433 and N.C. Wyeth, I believe, wanted him to accept it. 448 00:23:20,468 --> 00:23:22,711 -N.C. Wyeth was, um -- 449 00:23:22,746 --> 00:23:25,611 [Chuckling] was a man to be reckoned with. 450 00:23:25,645 --> 00:23:29,131 Very, very powerful individual, mm-hmm. 451 00:23:29,166 --> 00:23:31,513 But my mother was also. 452 00:23:31,548 --> 00:23:36,449 -And Betsy Wyeth persuaded Andrew not to accept it, 453 00:23:36,484 --> 00:23:39,141 because he would then follow in N.C. Wyeth's footsteps 454 00:23:39,176 --> 00:23:41,868 and be tortured by the fact that he could never 455 00:23:41,903 --> 00:23:45,665 get out of that box called an illustrator. 456 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:48,737 -My father and his father, N.C. Wyeth, 457 00:23:48,772 --> 00:23:50,601 were very, very close, 458 00:23:50,636 --> 00:23:53,708 but my mother never got along with N.C. Wyeth. 459 00:23:53,742 --> 00:23:58,022 She, you know -- She took Andy away from him. 460 00:23:58,057 --> 00:24:00,231 -I think, you know, when he married my mother, 461 00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:01,923 you know, he needed the freedom. 462 00:24:01,957 --> 00:24:03,821 He adored his father, 463 00:24:03,856 --> 00:24:06,859 but I think it totally set him free. 464 00:24:06,893 --> 00:24:09,724 ♪♪ 465 00:24:12,347 --> 00:24:16,524 -I am just stunned by his technical expertise. 466 00:24:16,558 --> 00:24:20,804 He is such a fabulous draftsman. 467 00:24:20,838 --> 00:24:25,256 -To see his hands actually go through a drawing, 468 00:24:25,291 --> 00:24:28,501 he was like a conductor with a symphony. 469 00:24:28,536 --> 00:24:31,884 -Andy could paint the wind. 470 00:24:31,918 --> 00:24:36,854 ♪♪ 471 00:24:36,889 --> 00:24:38,649 -"Dear Andy, 472 00:24:38,684 --> 00:24:41,687 Well, I've had a great feast on your mounted watercolors. 473 00:24:41,721 --> 00:24:43,689 They look magnificent. 474 00:24:43,723 --> 00:24:46,036 And with no reservations whatsoever, 475 00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:50,523 they represent the very best watercolors I ever saw. 476 00:24:50,558 --> 00:24:53,699 This remark from your old dad may not mean much to you, 477 00:24:53,733 --> 00:24:57,081 but I believe what I say and I'm certain I'm right. 478 00:24:57,116 --> 00:24:58,773 You are headed in the direction 479 00:24:58,807 --> 00:25:02,293 that should finally reach a pinnacle in American art." 480 00:25:02,328 --> 00:25:04,779 -When Andrew Wyeth's work was first seen, 481 00:25:04,813 --> 00:25:08,023 he had a watercolor show in 1937, 482 00:25:08,058 --> 00:25:11,026 when he was all of 20 years old, 483 00:25:11,061 --> 00:25:13,166 -"Dear Henriette and Pete, 484 00:25:13,201 --> 00:25:15,168 What better thing could I do, Henriette, 485 00:25:15,203 --> 00:25:16,825 on our birthday anniversary, 486 00:25:16,860 --> 00:25:18,620 than to write you the phenomenal news 487 00:25:18,655 --> 00:25:21,554 that Andy's exhibition of 23 watercolors 488 00:25:21,589 --> 00:25:24,902 were completely sold out before the close of the second day. 489 00:25:24,937 --> 00:25:27,077 Well, now all this does set me up. 490 00:25:27,111 --> 00:25:29,182 God damn it, Chadds Ford has started something. 491 00:25:29,217 --> 00:25:30,908 Now let's finish it." 492 00:25:30,943 --> 00:25:34,222 -He was a bright and rising young star. 493 00:25:34,256 --> 00:25:37,915 -For the first 10 years or so of his exhibiting life, 494 00:25:37,950 --> 00:25:40,297 he was an artist to keep your eye on. 495 00:25:40,331 --> 00:25:44,197 He had very high success in selling, 496 00:25:44,232 --> 00:25:46,959 but also critical success. 497 00:25:46,993 --> 00:25:50,790 ♪♪ 498 00:25:50,825 --> 00:25:52,999 -"My dear Henriette, 499 00:25:53,034 --> 00:25:55,070 The bulwark of my stay here this summer 500 00:25:55,105 --> 00:25:57,038 will be Andy's accomplishments. 501 00:25:57,072 --> 00:25:59,592 His watercolors have so definitely advanced 502 00:25:59,627 --> 00:26:01,698 into an impressive maturity. 503 00:26:01,732 --> 00:26:03,251 Some that he's done in the last few days 504 00:26:03,285 --> 00:26:04,942 are acutely abstract. 505 00:26:04,977 --> 00:26:06,288 Their impact upon anyone 506 00:26:06,323 --> 00:26:09,740 whose sensitiveness lies beyond romance and drama 507 00:26:09,775 --> 00:26:12,087 makes it hard to hold back tears. 508 00:26:12,122 --> 00:26:14,814 What magical power that boy has! 509 00:26:14,849 --> 00:26:16,678 I am at once stimulated beyond words 510 00:26:16,713 --> 00:26:22,753 to a new, purer effect and plunged into black despair." 511 00:26:22,788 --> 00:26:24,928 -My grandfather was terribly proud of him, 512 00:26:24,962 --> 00:26:27,724 but I think there was a certain competitive thing, too. 513 00:26:27,758 --> 00:26:29,933 I think my grandfather became very depressed 514 00:26:29,967 --> 00:26:31,659 about his own work. 515 00:26:31,693 --> 00:26:34,662 And here was this son having shows in New York 516 00:26:34,696 --> 00:26:38,976 and selling out and doing very sort of exciting things. 517 00:26:39,011 --> 00:26:40,633 [ Film projector clicking ] 518 00:26:40,668 --> 00:26:42,117 -He meant a great deal to me, 519 00:26:42,152 --> 00:26:43,878 and we had a marvelous time together. 520 00:26:43,912 --> 00:26:47,088 And he was a terrific -- not just as a father 521 00:26:47,122 --> 00:26:51,161 but as someone to talk to. You know? 522 00:26:51,195 --> 00:26:56,822 And I think having him taken away so quickly and abruptly, 523 00:26:56,856 --> 00:26:58,133 it really jolted me. 524 00:26:58,168 --> 00:26:59,859 [ Train wheels clacking ] 525 00:26:59,894 --> 00:27:01,171 [ Train whistle blows ] 526 00:27:01,205 --> 00:27:03,138 [ Train rumbling ] 527 00:27:03,173 --> 00:27:04,726 [ Rumbling fades ] 528 00:27:15,185 --> 00:27:16,704 [ Wind rushing ] 529 00:27:16,738 --> 00:27:20,190 -He was up in Maine when N.C. was killed. 530 00:27:20,224 --> 00:27:23,124 [ Bell tolls ] 531 00:27:23,158 --> 00:27:27,300 The day of the funeral, Andy wanted to see his father, 532 00:27:27,335 --> 00:27:30,096 wanted to spend some time alone with him. 533 00:27:30,131 --> 00:27:34,307 And Andy said to me, 534 00:27:34,342 --> 00:27:37,345 "I went into that room. 535 00:27:37,379 --> 00:27:39,243 The windows were open, 536 00:27:39,278 --> 00:27:45,077 and I saw the light come across my father's face, 537 00:27:45,111 --> 00:27:50,116 and the wind out the windows blowing the leaves." 538 00:27:50,151 --> 00:27:52,291 ♪♪ 539 00:27:52,325 --> 00:27:56,916 Tears are starting to well up as if he's reliving it. 540 00:27:56,951 --> 00:27:59,022 He says, "I had to do that -- 541 00:27:59,056 --> 00:28:02,197 to spend time with him. 542 00:28:02,232 --> 00:28:05,718 And seeing the beauty of the wind, 543 00:28:05,753 --> 00:28:08,203 the light across his face. 544 00:28:08,238 --> 00:28:12,207 This is what I'm trying to tell you. 545 00:28:12,242 --> 00:28:13,761 Paint your life history, 546 00:28:13,795 --> 00:28:16,073 do the things that mean something to you." 547 00:28:16,108 --> 00:28:18,800 And I'm crying now, and he's crying. 548 00:28:18,835 --> 00:28:20,077 [ Film projector clicking ] 549 00:28:20,112 --> 00:28:23,115 ♪♪ 550 00:28:23,149 --> 00:28:27,326 "Do the things that are your own." 551 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,260 ♪♪ 552 00:28:30,294 --> 00:28:32,503 "Paint your life." 553 00:28:32,538 --> 00:28:39,131 ♪♪ 554 00:28:39,165 --> 00:28:44,205 -He described to me going, and seeing his body aligned 555 00:28:44,239 --> 00:28:47,829 and this chest that finally was still. 556 00:28:47,864 --> 00:28:51,108 And here, the stillness of the hill right behind it. 557 00:28:51,143 --> 00:28:54,560 So -- So this hill meant so many things to him. 558 00:28:54,594 --> 00:28:57,114 ♪♪ 559 00:28:57,149 --> 00:29:03,431 -I think that it changed me from just painting pictures 560 00:29:03,465 --> 00:29:06,365 into painting a reality with an edge, 561 00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:08,539 with a meaning. 562 00:29:08,574 --> 00:29:12,060 His death really gave me a meaning to paint. 563 00:29:12,095 --> 00:29:13,199 It's a strange thing. 564 00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:16,375 ♪♪ 565 00:29:16,409 --> 00:29:17,825 [ Bird caws ] 566 00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:25,108 ♪♪ 567 00:29:25,142 --> 00:29:26,523 -Andy explained this one time 568 00:29:26,557 --> 00:29:28,283 early, early on, 569 00:29:28,318 --> 00:29:30,838 coming up over the hill and you see this little farm. 570 00:29:30,872 --> 00:29:33,254 And he felt like, you know, he was in Switzerland, 571 00:29:33,288 --> 00:29:36,878 just seeing this little farm nestled from the hill. 572 00:29:36,913 --> 00:29:38,362 There's a intimacy about this place, 573 00:29:38,397 --> 00:29:41,538 there's a magic, the excitement of the unknown. 574 00:29:41,572 --> 00:29:44,541 -This farm, he'd walk over here from our house, 575 00:29:44,575 --> 00:29:46,267 which is just over the hill, 576 00:29:46,301 --> 00:29:50,167 and just disappear into the Kuerner world. 577 00:29:50,202 --> 00:29:54,033 -The Kuerners were tremendously forbearing neighbors 578 00:29:54,068 --> 00:29:58,106 in that they just let Andy Wyeth come and go, like a ghost. 579 00:29:58,141 --> 00:30:01,109 I mean, he liked it that way. 580 00:30:01,144 --> 00:30:03,871 -Growing up you would see this figure coming in and out, 581 00:30:03,905 --> 00:30:07,426 which would be Andy, observing him living his life, 582 00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:12,224 and him observing us living ours. 583 00:30:12,258 --> 00:30:16,193 -He didn't really want to upset their daily life. 584 00:30:16,228 --> 00:30:18,437 And they just let him creep through the house 585 00:30:18,471 --> 00:30:20,646 and then disappear. 586 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,374 I think he really enjoyed that voyeuristic aspect. 587 00:30:24,408 --> 00:30:26,479 It was fabulous freedom for him, 588 00:30:26,514 --> 00:30:28,896 and a sense of his own domain, 589 00:30:28,930 --> 00:30:32,416 where he could be like a fly on the wall and watch them. 590 00:30:32,451 --> 00:30:35,488 -When I lost my father in an accident, 591 00:30:35,523 --> 00:30:38,629 right near where Kuerners lived, 592 00:30:38,664 --> 00:30:42,047 and I regretted so that I hadn't done his portrait. 593 00:30:42,081 --> 00:30:45,982 And Karl reminded me of my father in many ways. 594 00:30:46,016 --> 00:30:49,433 Karl was a much more Germanic-looking man, 595 00:30:49,468 --> 00:30:54,128 but they both had that tough quality, Germanic power. 596 00:30:54,162 --> 00:30:55,646 ♪♪ 597 00:30:55,681 --> 00:30:59,927 And I realized that here was my father still alive. 598 00:30:59,961 --> 00:31:02,653 ♪♪ 599 00:31:02,688 --> 00:31:05,104 See, I needed to stay 600 00:31:05,139 --> 00:31:08,038 around that location of where he was killed. 601 00:31:08,073 --> 00:31:12,629 It took on a strange quality of color to me and mood. 602 00:31:12,663 --> 00:31:15,666 ♪♪ 603 00:31:15,701 --> 00:31:18,704 -Karl is a man of hog-butchering and hunting, 604 00:31:18,738 --> 00:31:22,259 of guns and knives and no nonsense, 605 00:31:22,294 --> 00:31:23,985 a man of the land. 606 00:31:24,020 --> 00:31:28,196 -He wasn't just a Pennsylvania farmer to me. 607 00:31:28,231 --> 00:31:30,992 I mean, I'll be there alone in that house, 608 00:31:31,027 --> 00:31:34,030 and now, all of a sudden, a shot will ring out. 609 00:31:34,064 --> 00:31:36,964 [ Gunshots ] And it's Karl maybe hunting deer 610 00:31:36,998 --> 00:31:39,449 or maybe he was just target-practicing. 611 00:31:39,483 --> 00:31:41,416 And you'll go into his house 612 00:31:41,451 --> 00:31:45,558 and you'll see these rifles slung on the wall. 613 00:31:45,593 --> 00:31:48,216 There's a military feeling. 614 00:31:48,251 --> 00:31:51,116 -Karl was a former machine gunner 615 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:53,014 in the German army. 616 00:31:53,049 --> 00:31:54,671 And, all of a sudden, it was 617 00:31:54,705 --> 00:31:57,191 as if one of his toy soldiers had come to life, 618 00:31:57,225 --> 00:32:00,746 because there was Karl Kuerner with his helmet and his medals 619 00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:05,268 and his coat and his scars and his battle stories, 620 00:32:05,302 --> 00:32:09,548 willing, in his broken English, to speak to Andrew Wyeth. 621 00:32:09,582 --> 00:32:13,483 -And that was totally part of Wyeth's imagination -- 622 00:32:13,517 --> 00:32:16,762 the violence that lurked in his past, 623 00:32:16,796 --> 00:32:21,215 that then somehow enacted itself in Karl as a hunter. 624 00:32:21,249 --> 00:32:24,114 That latent violence fascinated Wyeth. 625 00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:28,360 He always loved to sort of poke at the dark side. 626 00:32:28,394 --> 00:32:30,362 -And I think that if you look 627 00:32:30,396 --> 00:32:32,640 at the paintings of Kuerners of mine, 628 00:32:32,674 --> 00:32:35,367 you'll begin to sense it's not a quaint farm 629 00:32:35,401 --> 00:32:39,129 where they work in the garden and they milk their cows. 630 00:32:39,164 --> 00:32:43,513 When they slaughter a pig, it's -- it's brutal. 631 00:32:43,547 --> 00:32:46,343 ♪♪ 632 00:32:46,378 --> 00:32:48,656 And I was attracted by this. 633 00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:54,593 ♪♪ 634 00:32:54,627 --> 00:33:01,151 ♪♪ 635 00:33:01,186 --> 00:33:04,189 [ Birds chirping ] 636 00:33:04,223 --> 00:33:06,260 -There are very few places he did this in. 637 00:33:06,294 --> 00:33:08,124 He never traveled. [ Goat bleats ] 638 00:33:08,158 --> 00:33:12,059 Never went to Europe, you know, to paint. 639 00:33:12,093 --> 00:33:14,061 He wanted to totally tune in 640 00:33:14,095 --> 00:33:16,373 to something that he could comprehend 641 00:33:16,408 --> 00:33:20,481 and not look at as a sort of an interesting scene to paint 642 00:33:20,515 --> 00:33:24,588 or an interesting, you know, landscape and so forth. 643 00:33:24,623 --> 00:33:26,694 He wanted to get deeper and deeper and deeper. 644 00:33:26,728 --> 00:33:28,696 And then this -- And he'd get thrilled. 645 00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:30,732 I mean, he would tell me he couldn't sleep at night, 646 00:33:30,767 --> 00:33:33,563 to get back there the next day to work on something. 647 00:33:33,597 --> 00:33:41,674 ♪♪ 648 00:33:41,709 --> 00:33:45,644 I mean, we're talking about 50 years of it, you know? 649 00:33:45,678 --> 00:33:47,680 Wouldn't you think he'd maybe look for another farm? 650 00:33:47,715 --> 00:33:50,580 No, didn't interest him. 651 00:33:50,614 --> 00:33:56,862 ♪♪ 652 00:33:56,896 --> 00:34:00,452 And with Kuerner, even after death, 653 00:34:00,486 --> 00:34:02,868 he then did the painting of Karl 654 00:34:02,902 --> 00:34:07,183 lying on this hillside as a drift of snow. 655 00:34:07,217 --> 00:34:14,155 ♪♪ 656 00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:15,467 [ Wind blowing ] 657 00:34:15,501 --> 00:34:19,333 [ Waves washing shoreline ] 658 00:34:19,367 --> 00:34:21,369 [ Bird calling ] 659 00:34:23,233 --> 00:34:26,754 [ Calling continues ] 660 00:34:26,788 --> 00:34:32,484 ♪♪ 661 00:34:32,518 --> 00:34:37,213 -Maine, to Andy, was like the surface of the moon. 662 00:34:37,247 --> 00:34:43,771 Harsh, but it was also...fundamental. 663 00:34:43,805 --> 00:34:46,739 ♪♪ 664 00:34:46,774 --> 00:34:50,467 -Chadds Ford, Pennsylvania, there are big stone houses, 665 00:34:50,502 --> 00:34:52,435 big trees, and whatnot. 666 00:34:52,469 --> 00:34:54,609 My father always said, which I think is absolutely true, 667 00:34:54,644 --> 00:34:57,198 that in Maine, it's as if a wind could come along 668 00:34:57,233 --> 00:34:58,820 and just -- wshhh -- blow everything away. 669 00:34:58,855 --> 00:35:01,823 People are hanging on tenaciously. 670 00:35:01,858 --> 00:35:07,208 And to my father, that contrast was important to him. 671 00:35:07,243 --> 00:35:13,352 -To me, the appeal of Maine is utter simplicity. 672 00:35:13,387 --> 00:35:18,633 The people that live here work off the land or the sea. 673 00:35:18,668 --> 00:35:20,566 -I used to help him a great deal. 674 00:35:20,601 --> 00:35:22,603 I had a dory rowboat, 675 00:35:22,637 --> 00:35:26,469 and I'd row him around these islands. 676 00:35:26,503 --> 00:35:30,507 -I think Walt was around 13 or 14 677 00:35:30,542 --> 00:35:32,199 when I first knew him. 678 00:35:32,233 --> 00:35:34,960 And I began to paint him in watercolors. 679 00:35:34,994 --> 00:35:38,377 I did an early -- one of my earliest portraits of him. 680 00:35:38,412 --> 00:35:41,242 I didn't look at him as something picturesque. 681 00:35:41,277 --> 00:35:43,831 He's just full of the devil, 682 00:35:43,865 --> 00:35:47,904 and we spent more and more time together. 683 00:35:47,938 --> 00:35:49,595 ♪♪ 684 00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:55,222 He's actually my closest friend up there. 685 00:35:55,256 --> 00:35:59,743 ♪♪ 686 00:35:59,778 --> 00:36:02,643 -The Olson House sits atop a hill, 687 00:36:02,677 --> 00:36:06,647 overlooking the water -- the Cushing peninsula. 688 00:36:06,681 --> 00:36:09,339 The Olson House is a national historic landmark, 689 00:36:09,374 --> 00:36:11,997 and the reason it's a landmark is because of the work 690 00:36:12,031 --> 00:36:14,689 that one of America's most important artists 691 00:36:14,724 --> 00:36:18,452 did over a 30-year period. 692 00:36:18,486 --> 00:36:21,524 -For a number of years, that's all I painted in Maine, 693 00:36:21,558 --> 00:36:23,698 were the Olsons. 694 00:36:23,733 --> 00:36:26,908 ♪♪ 695 00:36:26,943 --> 00:36:31,465 I could just pour all my thoughts, 696 00:36:31,499 --> 00:36:33,708 my imagination ran free, 697 00:36:33,743 --> 00:36:37,298 because the house was full of, to me, 698 00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:39,576 ghosts of the past of New England. 699 00:36:39,611 --> 00:36:41,026 I mean, it was unbelievable. 700 00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:43,718 They were seafaring people, the Olsons. 701 00:36:43,753 --> 00:36:46,480 ♪♪ 702 00:36:46,514 --> 00:36:48,551 [ Film projector clicking ] -The Olsons were poor. 703 00:36:48,585 --> 00:36:51,519 They were sustenance farmers. 704 00:36:51,554 --> 00:36:55,351 Everyday life was an extraordinary challenge. 705 00:36:55,385 --> 00:36:58,319 -Christina was not emotional outwardly. 706 00:36:58,354 --> 00:37:03,013 She was perhaps as serene as anyone I have ever known. 707 00:37:03,048 --> 00:37:06,362 And she had great poise and self-confidence, 708 00:37:06,396 --> 00:37:08,640 so that one forgot the fact that she was lame. 709 00:37:08,674 --> 00:37:12,333 She -- There was no self-pitying in her. 710 00:37:12,368 --> 00:37:13,886 -Christina Olson suffered 711 00:37:13,921 --> 00:37:18,684 from a still not entirely diagnosed neurological disease 712 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,548 that gradually, over decades, 713 00:37:20,583 --> 00:37:23,068 deprived her of the ability to walk. 714 00:37:23,102 --> 00:37:27,106 But by all accounts, she was a stubborn and proud woman 715 00:37:27,141 --> 00:37:28,970 who refused to use a wheelchair, 716 00:37:29,005 --> 00:37:32,008 and towards the later years of her life, 717 00:37:32,042 --> 00:37:34,079 literally had to drag herself around, 718 00:37:34,113 --> 00:37:36,081 inside and outside the house. 719 00:37:36,115 --> 00:37:38,566 -I don't think she thought of herself maybe as a cripple. 720 00:37:38,601 --> 00:37:39,981 I don't think she liked that word, 721 00:37:40,016 --> 00:37:42,052 and I don't like it either, to describe her. 722 00:37:42,087 --> 00:37:43,916 She just accepted things as they were 723 00:37:43,951 --> 00:37:47,817 and made do with what she had. 724 00:37:47,851 --> 00:37:50,613 -When my mother was 8 or 9, 725 00:37:50,647 --> 00:37:52,408 she wandered up to the Olson House 726 00:37:52,442 --> 00:37:54,341 and introduced herself to Christina 727 00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:55,997 and she'd end up braiding her hair 728 00:37:56,032 --> 00:38:00,381 and helping clean the dishes and so forth. 729 00:38:00,416 --> 00:38:03,695 -I knew since I was 10 that Christina needed me. 730 00:38:03,729 --> 00:38:05,973 Her polio hadn't crippled her yet, 731 00:38:06,007 --> 00:38:09,666 and she was very tall, very thin, delicate. 732 00:38:09,701 --> 00:38:11,427 Absolute lady. 733 00:38:11,461 --> 00:38:14,499 I'd do her hair, coiled around her head. 734 00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:18,019 Marvelous. Always dressed in pink or white. 735 00:38:18,054 --> 00:38:20,781 When walking, she'd lean on me, 736 00:38:20,815 --> 00:38:24,819 her bones hitting against my young bones. 737 00:38:24,854 --> 00:38:29,099 -She was a great friend of Betsy's, my wife, 738 00:38:29,134 --> 00:38:30,687 who had known her as a little girl, 739 00:38:30,722 --> 00:38:32,758 which was a great opening for me. 740 00:38:32,793 --> 00:38:36,590 And I didn't have a studio at that time. 741 00:38:36,624 --> 00:38:39,558 We were building a house in Cushing. 742 00:38:39,593 --> 00:38:41,802 And I asked the Olsons 743 00:38:41,836 --> 00:38:44,080 whether I could use one of the upstairs rooms, 744 00:38:44,114 --> 00:38:49,568 which was deserted, and I did, and that was how it all started. 745 00:38:49,603 --> 00:38:53,538 -When he grew up, his father was painting surf booming, 746 00:38:53,572 --> 00:38:54,953 and living in Port Clyde, 747 00:38:54,987 --> 00:38:57,680 which is a fishing community, and so forth. 748 00:38:57,714 --> 00:39:01,477 And she really introduced him to another side of Maine. 749 00:39:01,511 --> 00:39:04,065 -Andy first met the Olsons on his first date 750 00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,965 with his soon-wife-to-be Betsy James. 751 00:39:06,999 --> 00:39:09,899 -The moment I saw him, something went "boing!" 752 00:39:09,933 --> 00:39:12,108 He looked different from anyone I'd ever seen. 753 00:39:12,142 --> 00:39:13,765 He stayed for lunch 754 00:39:13,799 --> 00:39:15,905 and talked about things I'd never heard before -- 755 00:39:15,939 --> 00:39:17,872 the light that came in on the floor. 756 00:39:17,907 --> 00:39:21,669 I never thought I'd find anybody that would feel that way. 757 00:39:21,704 --> 00:39:23,533 [ Film projector clicking ] He wanted to see this area, 758 00:39:23,568 --> 00:39:25,639 and I thought, "Hmm, this will be fun. 759 00:39:25,673 --> 00:39:27,503 I'll take him down to Christina." 760 00:39:27,537 --> 00:39:30,540 I wanted to see if he would go inthe Olson House. 761 00:39:30,575 --> 00:39:31,921 A lot of people won't. 762 00:39:31,955 --> 00:39:33,647 The smell and odors. 763 00:39:33,681 --> 00:39:37,167 I judge people by it without saying anything. 764 00:39:37,202 --> 00:39:39,860 He walked right into the kitchen to meet Christina. 765 00:39:39,894 --> 00:39:42,863 Was terrific right away. So natural. 766 00:39:42,897 --> 00:39:44,968 He got by the first hurdle. 767 00:39:45,003 --> 00:39:47,074 We were married a year later. 768 00:39:47,108 --> 00:39:49,076 It's as if he hypnotizes you. 769 00:39:49,110 --> 00:39:52,804 He completely enters the most secret part of yourself. 770 00:39:52,838 --> 00:39:54,806 -I always think it's so interesting that my mother, 771 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,602 young Betsy James, who was 17, 772 00:39:57,636 --> 00:40:00,121 she takes him to the Olson House. 773 00:40:00,156 --> 00:40:02,883 It was hardscrabble existence in that house. 774 00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:06,231 No electricity, no water, no refrigeration. 775 00:40:06,265 --> 00:40:08,785 You know, she's sitting on stacks of newspapers 776 00:40:08,820 --> 00:40:11,201 that she'd urinate on, and just the smell... 777 00:40:11,236 --> 00:40:13,756 You know, it was -- it was a lot to take. 778 00:40:13,790 --> 00:40:15,792 But he took to it like that, 779 00:40:15,827 --> 00:40:18,070 and -- and look what he produced from it. 780 00:40:18,105 --> 00:40:22,696 ♪♪ 781 00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:24,801 -He did several paintings of her. 782 00:40:24,836 --> 00:40:26,665 There was just something that he saw, 783 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,736 and said, "I just have to do this." 784 00:40:28,771 --> 00:40:30,566 ♪♪ 785 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,258 The old farmhouse and the way she lived. 786 00:40:33,292 --> 00:40:36,779 And I think Andy's sometime amazed 787 00:40:36,813 --> 00:40:39,989 that people can survive in the condition they might be. 788 00:40:40,023 --> 00:40:42,785 Just like her, with no legs, and you know, 789 00:40:42,819 --> 00:40:46,271 crawl on your stomach for 65 years, 790 00:40:46,305 --> 00:40:50,586 and do your own work in the kitchen. 791 00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:55,073 -What Andy chooses not to depict is the kind of social commentary 792 00:40:55,107 --> 00:40:57,938 that other artists might have chosen. 793 00:40:57,972 --> 00:41:02,943 He does not really reveal the depth of poverty 794 00:41:02,977 --> 00:41:05,083 that were part of everyday life here. 795 00:41:05,117 --> 00:41:13,332 ♪♪ 796 00:41:13,367 --> 00:41:14,886 Part of it, I think, is 797 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,268 a respect for the people who were his friends. 798 00:41:18,303 --> 00:41:21,582 -The Olsons became part of our family, 799 00:41:21,617 --> 00:41:24,274 or more importantly, we became part of theirfamily. 800 00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:26,000 It was a wonderful experience -- 801 00:41:26,035 --> 00:41:29,797 they had this enormous house, these amazing people. 802 00:41:29,832 --> 00:41:31,247 -We had a marvelous time together. 803 00:41:31,281 --> 00:41:34,181 Sometimes we wouldn't say a thing for hours, 804 00:41:34,215 --> 00:41:36,770 and then we'd talk. 805 00:41:36,804 --> 00:41:41,360 She felt very easy with me and, I think, enjoyed it. 806 00:41:41,395 --> 00:41:43,639 But there again was that communion of what -- 807 00:41:43,673 --> 00:41:47,228 it wasn't what was said, what wasn'tsaid. 808 00:41:47,263 --> 00:41:50,231 -She was wonderfully motherly and whatnot, 809 00:41:50,266 --> 00:41:52,579 and would bake biscuits and so forth. 810 00:41:52,613 --> 00:41:54,339 And yet, you know, to most people, 811 00:41:54,373 --> 00:41:55,927 she looked like a witch. 812 00:41:55,961 --> 00:41:58,377 I mean, she was this sort of amazing face -- 813 00:41:58,412 --> 00:42:01,070 this enormous nose and so forth. 814 00:42:01,104 --> 00:42:03,866 -She had that eye. 815 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:10,320 And everywhere you went, why, that eye would go with you. 816 00:42:10,355 --> 00:42:15,118 And I mean, it was really kind of frightening. 817 00:42:15,153 --> 00:42:18,708 -Alvero was a man of very few words. 818 00:42:18,743 --> 00:42:21,987 -The brother was sort of anonymous. 819 00:42:22,022 --> 00:42:25,094 But just very, very kind. 820 00:42:25,128 --> 00:42:28,407 And then when they let my father paint through the house, 821 00:42:28,442 --> 00:42:30,789 it just opened up everything. 822 00:42:30,824 --> 00:42:38,107 ♪♪ 823 00:42:38,141 --> 00:42:40,109 -And again, it's this world 824 00:42:40,143 --> 00:42:42,732 that my father then sort of morphed into, 825 00:42:42,767 --> 00:42:46,011 as he had done in Pennsylvania, I think, with the Kuerner farm. 826 00:42:46,046 --> 00:42:49,636 And...it was magic. 827 00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:51,707 ♪♪ 828 00:42:51,741 --> 00:42:57,264 -I often feel if I could only be not there to paint. 829 00:42:57,298 --> 00:43:00,129 Just a pair of eyes. 830 00:43:00,163 --> 00:43:01,993 I mean, I'd be working on Christine, 831 00:43:02,027 --> 00:43:04,685 and Al would come in, 832 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:08,068 step right in front of me, and get eggs. 833 00:43:08,102 --> 00:43:11,071 I mean, as if I... You know? 834 00:43:11,105 --> 00:43:14,246 "Oh, Andy, there he is, sitting there." 835 00:43:14,281 --> 00:43:16,317 You know? 836 00:43:16,352 --> 00:43:18,423 Which is just right. 837 00:43:23,290 --> 00:43:27,121 ♪♪ 838 00:43:27,156 --> 00:43:30,987 -I saw her crawling out to a little truck garden she had 839 00:43:31,022 --> 00:43:32,782 next to the house one day. 840 00:43:32,817 --> 00:43:35,923 And it dawned on me, what a terrific, I mean... 841 00:43:35,958 --> 00:43:38,477 And I went home and made a quick notation 842 00:43:38,512 --> 00:43:42,723 of this idea of Christine in the field, 843 00:43:42,758 --> 00:43:46,209 the house in the background. 844 00:43:46,244 --> 00:43:48,695 And several days went by, 845 00:43:48,729 --> 00:43:51,801 and this kept building in my mind. 846 00:43:51,836 --> 00:43:53,492 -"Christina's World" is a picture 847 00:43:53,527 --> 00:43:55,702 that's actually kind of hard to look at anymore, 848 00:43:55,736 --> 00:43:57,945 because it's become such an icon 849 00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:02,363 that to come to it fresh, it's almost impossible. 850 00:44:02,398 --> 00:44:04,952 But that, in a way, is a sign of its strength, 851 00:44:04,987 --> 00:44:07,990 that, over decades, people come back to it, 852 00:44:08,024 --> 00:44:11,062 generation after generation, and find it haunting. 853 00:44:11,096 --> 00:44:15,066 Even people who don't really know the story of Christina. 854 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:18,000 -It's enjoyed because there's a spectrum of emotions 855 00:44:18,034 --> 00:44:19,726 that it can release. 856 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,006 And that might be loneliness, it might be yearning, 857 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,043 it might be something that's lost 858 00:44:27,078 --> 00:44:30,426 that can never be seen or rescued again. 859 00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:32,842 It can look like somebody's dream -- 860 00:44:32,877 --> 00:44:34,533 a nightmare, maybe even. 861 00:44:34,568 --> 00:44:36,501 This woman seen from the rear, 862 00:44:36,535 --> 00:44:40,194 moving herself up towards a little haunted house 863 00:44:40,229 --> 00:44:44,543 that's on this very strong horizon. 864 00:44:44,578 --> 00:44:47,443 ♪♪ 865 00:44:47,477 --> 00:44:49,928 -A woman longing for something. 866 00:44:49,963 --> 00:44:52,344 Some people pick up that she's crippled. 867 00:44:52,379 --> 00:44:55,969 Some people don't at all, and just think she's yearning. 868 00:44:56,003 --> 00:45:00,007 I think it's a painting which so many people 869 00:45:00,042 --> 00:45:04,253 can get free association with it in an extreme way. 870 00:45:04,287 --> 00:45:08,015 -I knew she had been up to look at it, though, 871 00:45:08,050 --> 00:45:10,500 because I could see where the dust 872 00:45:10,535 --> 00:45:13,365 had been swept along with her body 873 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,126 as she crawled up. 874 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,369 So she knew what I was doing. 875 00:45:17,404 --> 00:45:19,337 -It's a very odd painting. 876 00:45:19,371 --> 00:45:21,546 Everything is incredibly sharp focus. 877 00:45:21,580 --> 00:45:24,031 It's this crystalline world. 878 00:45:24,066 --> 00:45:26,620 I mean, here you have a wisp of her hair blowing, 879 00:45:26,654 --> 00:45:29,830 and then, up in the barn, you know, half a mile away, 880 00:45:29,865 --> 00:45:32,557 is a shadow of a swallow flying by. 881 00:45:32,591 --> 00:45:34,559 You know, it sure ain't realism. 882 00:45:34,593 --> 00:45:38,114 And that's what I think lifts it into just another world. 883 00:45:38,149 --> 00:45:44,465 ♪♪ 884 00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:46,019 [ Film projector clicking ] 885 00:45:46,053 --> 00:45:48,124 ♪♪ 886 00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:50,540 -I grew up with a young colored boy 887 00:45:50,575 --> 00:45:52,991 who I played with for years. 888 00:45:53,026 --> 00:45:55,925 He was really my closest companion as a small boy. 889 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,858 Lived over the hill. 890 00:45:57,893 --> 00:46:01,448 And he was remarkable. 891 00:46:01,482 --> 00:46:05,314 And I found he had great imagination -- 892 00:46:05,348 --> 00:46:09,525 much more than the white boys I knew. 893 00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:11,976 -One of Andrew Wyeth's closest friends in childhood 894 00:46:12,010 --> 00:46:14,910 was David Lawrence, who was a young African-American boy, 895 00:46:14,944 --> 00:46:19,121 who brought him to this part of Chadds Ford. 896 00:46:19,155 --> 00:46:22,193 The black community here was called Little Africa, 897 00:46:22,227 --> 00:46:23,988 which may sound charming now, 898 00:46:24,022 --> 00:46:26,059 but it really reminds us of an era 899 00:46:26,093 --> 00:46:29,027 when neighborhoods that were mostly populated by black people 900 00:46:29,062 --> 00:46:31,581 had derisive nicknames given to them by whites. 901 00:46:31,616 --> 00:46:33,342 ♪♪ 902 00:46:33,376 --> 00:46:35,654 It was because of this insider introduction 903 00:46:35,689 --> 00:46:38,140 Wyeth was able to access these people 904 00:46:38,174 --> 00:46:40,659 for portraits and for paintings. 905 00:46:40,694 --> 00:46:43,283 ♪♪ 906 00:46:43,317 --> 00:46:46,217 -I didn't paint them because they were black people. 907 00:46:46,251 --> 00:46:50,014 I painted them because they were my friends. 908 00:46:50,048 --> 00:46:51,394 And I've always felt 909 00:46:51,429 --> 00:46:57,262 that the blacks have been painted very poorly. 910 00:46:57,297 --> 00:46:59,540 I'm not saying that I've done it well, 911 00:46:59,575 --> 00:47:02,474 but I think they've been caricatured. 912 00:47:02,509 --> 00:47:05,995 Big lips, big eyes. 913 00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:12,277 ♪♪ 914 00:47:12,312 --> 00:47:15,694 -So, we're here at the ruins of Mother Archie's Church. 915 00:47:15,729 --> 00:47:17,973 By the middle of the 20th century, 916 00:47:18,007 --> 00:47:21,631 it was being used as an African-American church. 917 00:47:21,666 --> 00:47:23,633 The congregation dwindled to a number 918 00:47:23,668 --> 00:47:25,635 that really couldn't support it anymore. 919 00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:28,224 And it was converted into a residence. 920 00:47:28,259 --> 00:47:30,502 Different people that Wyeth painted 921 00:47:30,537 --> 00:47:32,711 lived for a time in the church, as they did 922 00:47:32,746 --> 00:47:36,543 in different makeshift spaces around the area. 923 00:47:36,577 --> 00:47:40,616 -We got along the same as sisters and brothers. 924 00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:43,446 In this place you call Chadds Ford, 925 00:47:43,481 --> 00:47:47,657 we got along the same as sisters and brothers. 926 00:47:47,692 --> 00:47:51,316 Andy painted a lot of colored people's pictures around here. 927 00:47:51,351 --> 00:47:53,042 A lot of 'em. 928 00:47:53,077 --> 00:47:56,045 ♪♪ 929 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,980 -By the 1960s, Wyeth was painting Tom Clark a lot. 930 00:48:00,015 --> 00:48:02,086 When Wyeth started painting him, 931 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,365 Tom Clark was a kind of old and wizened fellow. 932 00:48:05,399 --> 00:48:08,092 In "Garret Room," he's a very still figure. 933 00:48:08,126 --> 00:48:11,164 His head is turned away from the viewer, 934 00:48:11,198 --> 00:48:13,476 and we can't really tell if he's awake 935 00:48:13,511 --> 00:48:17,066 or if he's sleeping that eternal sleep. 936 00:48:17,101 --> 00:48:18,447 ♪♪ 937 00:48:18,481 --> 00:48:20,621 James Loper was mentally challenged, 938 00:48:20,656 --> 00:48:23,141 and he would take these long, rambling walks 939 00:48:23,176 --> 00:48:26,144 through the countryside around the Wyeth compound. 940 00:48:26,179 --> 00:48:31,356 -This James Loper painting, 1950. 941 00:48:31,391 --> 00:48:34,497 His clothes were all old and fishhooks, 942 00:48:34,532 --> 00:48:37,259 and he was looking up to the left. 943 00:48:37,293 --> 00:48:40,055 Over his head was a sickle, 944 00:48:40,089 --> 00:48:44,231 and over the sickle was a white sky. 945 00:48:44,266 --> 00:48:48,304 And unless you were stupid, you knew what he meant. 946 00:48:48,339 --> 00:48:50,444 I think that's symbolic 947 00:48:50,479 --> 00:48:53,447 of the condition of the black man 948 00:48:53,482 --> 00:48:55,346 in the white world. 949 00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:58,625 -Willard Snowden was a hard-luck alcoholic drifter. 950 00:48:58,659 --> 00:49:02,629 The Wyeths gave Snowden a place to live in the old schoolhouse 951 00:49:02,663 --> 00:49:05,390 that had once been Andrew's studio. 952 00:49:05,425 --> 00:49:08,255 -He'd been around here, living in my studio for a year. 953 00:49:08,290 --> 00:49:10,464 I'd made a lot of drawings of him 954 00:49:10,499 --> 00:49:13,812 to get through to this man, who was a remarkable man, 955 00:49:13,847 --> 00:49:16,712 had a little problem of drinking wine. 956 00:49:16,746 --> 00:49:19,370 -Snowden was an alcoholic. 957 00:49:19,404 --> 00:49:23,132 And he constantly needed to feed that disease. 958 00:49:23,167 --> 00:49:25,307 And Andrew was really amenable to that, 959 00:49:25,341 --> 00:49:30,795 sometimes using liquor as a way to get Snowden to sit for him. 960 00:49:30,829 --> 00:49:33,591 He would promise to drive him to the package store, 961 00:49:33,625 --> 00:49:36,387 before or after those sittings. 962 00:49:36,421 --> 00:49:37,871 This is a complicated thing. 963 00:49:37,905 --> 00:49:39,597 I think that this was emblematic 964 00:49:39,631 --> 00:49:42,255 of how Wyeth treated people around him, 965 00:49:42,289 --> 00:49:44,740 treated his subjects, treated his friends. 966 00:49:44,774 --> 00:49:46,707 He was nonjudgmental. 967 00:49:46,742 --> 00:49:48,433 He didn't try to change them 968 00:49:48,468 --> 00:49:51,402 or set them on a more "correct" path. 969 00:49:51,436 --> 00:49:53,404 He thought of these people 970 00:49:53,438 --> 00:49:56,131 as folks who were struggling with various challenges. 971 00:49:56,165 --> 00:49:59,582 -One morning, I came here and I could tell by his lips, 972 00:49:59,617 --> 00:50:03,862 were sort of damp, you know, and I started drawing. 973 00:50:03,897 --> 00:50:06,486 Actually, it was right in this spot. 974 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,282 I took this piece of paper and I'm sitting there, 975 00:50:09,316 --> 00:50:10,835 and he came up and he sat. 976 00:50:10,869 --> 00:50:13,700 He drew his chair up close, and he was fascinated 977 00:50:13,734 --> 00:50:15,909 by what my hand was doing. 978 00:50:15,943 --> 00:50:17,911 He got sort of hypnotized. 979 00:50:17,945 --> 00:50:22,502 And I did the portrait of him just here, looking down. 980 00:50:22,536 --> 00:50:26,368 And if you'll notice the wine, the dampness of his lips 981 00:50:26,402 --> 00:50:29,336 and there's a slight smile, quizzical. 982 00:50:29,371 --> 00:50:32,581 -In paintings of Snowden, sometimes we see the ravages 983 00:50:32,615 --> 00:50:35,377 of alcohol directly affecting his body. 984 00:50:35,411 --> 00:50:38,794 We can see him in these slightly compromised situations. 985 00:50:38,828 --> 00:50:41,762 Wyeth painted him without his knowledge, occasionally. 986 00:50:41,797 --> 00:50:44,386 Wyeth both does a really beautiful thing 987 00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:46,664 in showing his subjects as they are, 988 00:50:46,698 --> 00:50:50,254 but it's also sometimes really painful to look at 989 00:50:50,288 --> 00:50:53,153 when you know the stories of these people's lives. 990 00:50:53,188 --> 00:50:55,742 He was really interested in finding the dignity 991 00:50:55,776 --> 00:50:57,951 that his subjects had, and expressing it, 992 00:50:57,985 --> 00:51:00,850 no matter how difficult their lives were. 993 00:51:00,885 --> 00:51:09,618 ♪♪ 994 00:51:09,652 --> 00:51:13,311 Andrew Wyeth was in an important 1940s exhibition 995 00:51:13,346 --> 00:51:14,726 at the Museum of Modern Art, 996 00:51:14,761 --> 00:51:17,660 called "American Realists and Magic Realists." 997 00:51:17,695 --> 00:51:25,530 ♪♪ 998 00:51:25,565 --> 00:51:28,257 -He was accepted among the avant garde. 999 00:51:28,292 --> 00:51:29,983 His work was shown at the Museum of Modern Art. 1000 00:51:30,017 --> 00:51:32,744 He was seen as a magic realist. 1001 00:51:32,779 --> 00:51:35,540 -His big moment was when the Museum of Modern Art 1002 00:51:35,575 --> 00:51:37,853 decided to buy a painting by him. 1003 00:51:37,887 --> 00:51:39,372 That was in '49. 1004 00:51:39,406 --> 00:51:41,581 Of course, that was "Christina's World." 1005 00:51:41,615 --> 00:51:43,721 ♪♪ 1006 00:51:43,755 --> 00:51:45,964 So, this looked, at the moment, 1007 00:51:45,999 --> 00:51:48,553 that Andrew Wyeth was entering into dialogue 1008 00:51:48,588 --> 00:51:50,831 with all the great modern masters 1009 00:51:50,866 --> 00:51:52,661 that the Museum of Modern Art collected, 1010 00:51:52,695 --> 00:51:54,766 and he was being integrated 1011 00:51:54,801 --> 00:51:58,287 into what was seen as the most important collection 1012 00:51:58,322 --> 00:52:00,703 of contemporary art in this country. 1013 00:52:00,738 --> 00:52:08,401 ♪♪ 1014 00:52:08,435 --> 00:52:12,267 -I want to express my feelings, rather than illustrate them. 1015 00:52:12,301 --> 00:52:16,547 ♪♪ 1016 00:52:16,581 --> 00:52:19,860 Technique is just a means of arriving at a statement. 1017 00:52:19,895 --> 00:52:22,277 ♪♪ 1018 00:52:22,311 --> 00:52:25,452 -There comes a moment, mostly in the '60s and '70s, 1019 00:52:25,487 --> 00:52:26,971 where abstract art 1020 00:52:27,005 --> 00:52:30,354 becomes the definition of what contemporary art is. 1021 00:52:30,388 --> 00:52:32,942 -Modern artists don't try to mirror or illustrate 1022 00:52:32,977 --> 00:52:35,255 the new, complex world. 1023 00:52:35,290 --> 00:52:37,775 But like the artists of any age, they cannot help expressing 1024 00:52:37,809 --> 00:52:39,984 the basic assumptions of their time. 1025 00:52:40,018 --> 00:52:45,403 -It's the era of de Kooning, Mark Rothko, Jackson Pollock. 1026 00:52:45,438 --> 00:52:48,510 -I don't work from drawings or colored sketches. 1027 00:52:48,544 --> 00:52:50,684 My painting is direct. 1028 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,480 -It's always been the responsibility of an artist 1029 00:52:53,515 --> 00:52:57,898 to examine what is in the world at this moment. 1030 00:52:57,933 --> 00:53:03,559 An artist can't afford to be a sentimental commentator. 1031 00:53:03,594 --> 00:53:05,665 -And in that climate, 1032 00:53:05,699 --> 00:53:08,737 Andrew began to look old-fashioned. 1033 00:53:08,771 --> 00:53:10,670 -But some very few artists 1034 00:53:10,704 --> 00:53:13,362 still find a means of personal expression 1035 00:53:13,397 --> 00:53:15,606 in the traditional and the familiar. 1036 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,436 Such a painter is Andrew Wyeth. 1037 00:53:18,471 --> 00:53:20,921 -In the art world, 1038 00:53:20,956 --> 00:53:24,304 Andrew Wyeth was thought of as a regionalist 1039 00:53:24,339 --> 00:53:27,514 or sort of a down-home painter. 1040 00:53:27,549 --> 00:53:30,483 Maybe just the populism of it, you know? 1041 00:53:30,517 --> 00:53:31,863 Because he was so popular. 1042 00:53:31,898 --> 00:53:34,418 -There was a sense that he was easy, 1043 00:53:34,452 --> 00:53:35,867 that the reason he gathered 1044 00:53:35,902 --> 00:53:38,111 these mass audiences for his exhibition 1045 00:53:38,145 --> 00:53:40,147 was because he was accessible. 1046 00:53:40,182 --> 00:53:42,909 Members of that audience could understand his art 1047 00:53:42,943 --> 00:53:44,600 and be moved by it 1048 00:53:44,635 --> 00:53:47,396 without having to work very hard. 1049 00:53:47,431 --> 00:53:50,848 ♪♪ 1050 00:53:50,882 --> 00:53:53,471 -That's when critics really started to slam him, 1051 00:53:53,506 --> 00:53:56,785 that, "Oh, he's this popular with the common man, 1052 00:53:56,819 --> 00:54:01,168 then he can't really be taken seriously." 1053 00:54:01,203 --> 00:54:03,101 -"Christina's World" -- the painting hangs 1054 00:54:03,136 --> 00:54:05,069 in the Museum of Modern Art in New York, 1055 00:54:05,103 --> 00:54:07,036 and a million people a year look at it. 1056 00:54:07,071 --> 00:54:09,901 -There was also, in that notion of shallowness, 1057 00:54:09,936 --> 00:54:14,112 this sense that Wyeth played to his audience, 1058 00:54:14,147 --> 00:54:19,048 that he wasn't subtle enough or nuanced enough. 1059 00:54:19,083 --> 00:54:21,188 -Is it possible for an artist himself 1060 00:54:21,223 --> 00:54:23,881 to say how he would like to be described, 1061 00:54:23,915 --> 00:54:26,090 if you could write the definitive statement? 1062 00:54:26,124 --> 00:54:28,092 -It's very hard to put it into words, 1063 00:54:28,126 --> 00:54:30,991 but I'd say my whole aim is to try to do a portrait 1064 00:54:31,026 --> 00:54:34,685 of the things that emotionally mean a great deal to me. 1065 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,032 -I don't feel he's a 20th-century artist. 1066 00:54:37,066 --> 00:54:40,622 He doesn't leave anything up to your own imagination. 1067 00:54:40,656 --> 00:54:43,901 -It's like a typical poster artist. 1068 00:54:43,935 --> 00:54:45,489 Norman Rockwell. 1069 00:54:45,523 --> 00:54:49,009 Beautiful pictures, but no emotional feeling. 1070 00:54:49,044 --> 00:54:56,707 ♪♪ 1071 00:54:56,741 --> 00:55:00,814 -While that may have been the view of high-art criticism, 1072 00:55:00,849 --> 00:55:03,576 the fact is he had a huge audience, 1073 00:55:03,610 --> 00:55:06,061 he had many collectors, and he was criticized for that. 1074 00:55:06,095 --> 00:55:08,166 -And Wyeth was sort of picked on 1075 00:55:08,201 --> 00:55:11,894 as being the poster child of the reactionary realists, 1076 00:55:11,929 --> 00:55:14,000 I don't think he felt that was fair. 1077 00:55:14,034 --> 00:55:15,553 -I think all I can say to people 1078 00:55:15,588 --> 00:55:17,831 is, go out and look at my paintings, 1079 00:55:17,866 --> 00:55:19,246 and do they get more out of it 1080 00:55:19,281 --> 00:55:21,697 or would they rather have a photograph? 1081 00:55:21,732 --> 00:55:25,908 -I came up with this word for the critical dispute. 1082 00:55:25,943 --> 00:55:27,703 I would call it the Wyeth Curse. 1083 00:55:27,738 --> 00:55:31,742 It was people judging him without looking at him. 1084 00:55:31,776 --> 00:55:34,503 And also people judging his audience 1085 00:55:34,538 --> 00:55:37,886 as if somehow the audience that went to Andrew Wyeth 1086 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,889 would not be the audience that would then turn around 1087 00:55:40,923 --> 00:55:43,132 and go see an exhibition by Jackson Pollock 1088 00:55:43,167 --> 00:55:44,720 or Willem de Kooning. 1089 00:55:44,755 --> 00:55:46,688 And those seemed to me, in the '70s, 1090 00:55:46,722 --> 00:55:49,242 to be kind of fallacious grounds 1091 00:55:49,276 --> 00:55:52,694 on which to make a critical judgment. 1092 00:55:52,728 --> 00:55:55,144 -I think it was disappointing to him. 1093 00:55:55,179 --> 00:55:57,595 -He cared. I'd go over to his house, 1094 00:55:57,630 --> 00:56:00,287 and some reviews and articles had come out, 1095 00:56:00,322 --> 00:56:03,670 and he'd have them all spread out on the dining room table. 1096 00:56:03,705 --> 00:56:06,742 -He could recite every bad account, 1097 00:56:06,777 --> 00:56:09,020 and I said, "But look at all the great ones." 1098 00:56:09,055 --> 00:56:11,022 He'd say, "Yeah, but look at this one." 1099 00:56:11,057 --> 00:56:16,234 ♪♪ 1100 00:56:16,269 --> 00:56:18,892 -He was so hurt when the critics 1101 00:56:18,927 --> 00:56:21,274 would simply take it for face value 1102 00:56:21,308 --> 00:56:22,896 and call it photographic, 1103 00:56:22,931 --> 00:56:25,174 because it never was. 1104 00:56:25,209 --> 00:56:27,073 -When "Groundhog Day" was purchased 1105 00:56:27,107 --> 00:56:28,971 by the Philadelphia Museum of Art, 1106 00:56:29,006 --> 00:56:32,630 it was the highest price ever paid for a contemporary artist. 1107 00:56:32,665 --> 00:56:35,668 That almost created a certain kind of resentment, 1108 00:56:35,702 --> 00:56:38,636 among bohemian artists who were starving in garrets, 1109 00:56:38,671 --> 00:56:40,535 that Wyeth was so successful, 1110 00:56:40,569 --> 00:56:42,053 that he was making thousands of dollars 1111 00:56:42,088 --> 00:56:43,917 for realist paintings. 1112 00:56:43,952 --> 00:56:45,988 It somehow rubbed against the grain. 1113 00:56:46,023 --> 00:56:48,646 And so where Wyeth had actually been swimming along 1114 00:56:48,681 --> 00:56:50,959 with all these other painters, happily, 1115 00:56:50,993 --> 00:56:53,133 he suddenly was made into an opposition. 1116 00:56:53,168 --> 00:56:54,859 It wounded him, 1117 00:56:54,894 --> 00:56:57,206 and he really was driven into retreat. 1118 00:56:57,241 --> 00:57:00,658 And what he did was run to Chadds Ford and to Maine 1119 00:57:00,693 --> 00:57:03,937 and just make his own world for himself. 1120 00:57:03,972 --> 00:57:06,975 ♪♪ 1121 00:57:07,009 --> 00:57:09,149 -The enviable thing about painting is 1122 00:57:09,184 --> 00:57:12,049 that you can continue to paint. It really has no real effect. 1123 00:57:12,083 --> 00:57:15,777 It's not like theater, where they close the theater, film, 1124 00:57:15,811 --> 00:57:19,297 I mean, you know, bad reviews and so forth. 1125 00:57:19,332 --> 00:57:21,610 He kept on painting, 1126 00:57:21,645 --> 00:57:24,026 which, of course, drives the critics mad. 1127 00:57:24,061 --> 00:57:27,858 ♪♪ 1128 00:57:27,892 --> 00:57:31,793 [ Wind blowing ] 1129 00:57:35,279 --> 00:57:40,077 -I remember, one time, I was out there in Chadds Ford. 1130 00:57:40,111 --> 00:57:43,218 I get there early, and it was snowy. 1131 00:57:43,252 --> 00:57:45,669 And I look out the window of the granary. 1132 00:57:45,703 --> 00:57:49,017 I see Andy walking in the snow. 1133 00:57:49,051 --> 00:57:50,708 And I see him stop, and he's looking down. 1134 00:57:50,743 --> 00:57:55,126 And he looks down at this dead deer in the snow. 1135 00:57:55,161 --> 00:57:59,614 And he's just looking at it for 10 minutes. 1136 00:57:59,648 --> 00:58:02,133 [ Wind blowing ] 1137 00:58:02,168 --> 00:58:04,342 He looks, his hands behind his back, 1138 00:58:04,377 --> 00:58:06,897 the way he always walked, and he looked down. 1139 00:58:10,107 --> 00:58:13,075 And eventually... 1140 00:58:13,110 --> 00:58:15,422 he walked back, got in his Jeep, 1141 00:58:15,457 --> 00:58:17,424 drove on to the studio. 1142 00:58:17,459 --> 00:58:27,400 ♪♪ 1143 00:58:27,434 --> 00:58:32,232 ♪♪ 1144 00:58:32,267 --> 00:58:35,339 -He's really an artist who works from memory. 1145 00:58:35,373 --> 00:58:38,273 And I think it's a mischaracterization of him 1146 00:58:38,307 --> 00:58:40,033 to just call him a realist. 1147 00:58:40,068 --> 00:58:42,035 He doesn't operate like a camera. 1148 00:58:42,070 --> 00:58:45,383 He's making stuff up. He's manipulating reality. 1149 00:58:45,418 --> 00:58:48,455 He always admired the abstract expressionists 1150 00:58:48,490 --> 00:58:51,217 and felt kinship with them. 1151 00:58:51,251 --> 00:58:53,253 ♪♪ 1152 00:58:53,288 --> 00:58:55,117 Looking at his work, 1153 00:58:55,152 --> 00:58:58,396 you can see the splashiness, the expressiveness of his work, 1154 00:58:58,431 --> 00:59:00,778 that has a lot in common with Franz Kline. 1155 00:59:00,813 --> 00:59:03,885 ♪♪ 1156 00:59:03,919 --> 00:59:06,991 Number two, there is this surrealistic bent, 1157 00:59:07,026 --> 00:59:08,993 which is deeply modern, 1158 00:59:09,028 --> 00:59:11,168 and then there's a very strong abstract style 1159 00:59:11,202 --> 00:59:12,928 that he's working with. 1160 00:59:12,963 --> 00:59:14,965 If you look at a painting like "River Cove," 1161 00:59:14,999 --> 00:59:18,762 which is really organized like a Mark Rothko -- 1162 00:59:18,796 --> 00:59:21,212 big simple shapes, 1163 00:59:21,247 --> 00:59:23,180 the sense of the two-dimensional pattern 1164 00:59:23,214 --> 00:59:25,354 on the surface of the painting -- 1165 00:59:25,389 --> 00:59:28,910 he has a really keen sense of the surface, 1166 00:59:28,944 --> 00:59:31,913 which also makes him a real '50s painter. 1167 00:59:31,947 --> 00:59:33,915 -One of the awful things the critics say is 1168 00:59:33,949 --> 00:59:36,434 that he paints every blade of grass. 1169 00:59:36,469 --> 00:59:38,298 It's like Jackson Pollock. 1170 00:59:38,333 --> 00:59:41,129 If you get up close to it, it is not every blade of grass. 1171 00:59:41,163 --> 00:59:43,994 It's a strange woven pattern. 1172 00:59:44,028 --> 00:59:46,065 -He was tapping into the rhythms of nature, 1173 00:59:46,099 --> 00:59:47,894 so he looked at the grass, he got it, 1174 00:59:47,929 --> 00:59:49,516 it was just -- pop, pop, pop, pop, pop -- 1175 00:59:49,551 --> 00:59:52,485 the brush just danced across the surface of the painting. 1176 00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:55,074 -There's something very odd about his paintings 1177 00:59:55,108 --> 00:59:57,214 in that all the air is sucked out. 1178 00:59:57,248 --> 00:59:59,768 There is no atmosphere. 1179 00:59:59,803 --> 01:00:01,252 If you think of "Christina's World" 1180 01:00:01,287 --> 01:00:03,151 and the little house way in the distance, 1181 01:00:03,185 --> 01:00:07,120 in real life, that would be foggy and a little blurry 1182 01:00:07,155 --> 01:00:09,329 and out-of-focus, way in the distance. 1183 01:00:09,364 --> 01:00:12,332 No, because there is no atmosphere, 1184 01:00:12,367 --> 01:00:16,267 which gives you a sense of strange isolation. 1185 01:00:16,302 --> 01:00:18,822 -I don't think people begin to realize 1186 01:00:18,856 --> 01:00:21,169 how complicated his compositions are. 1187 01:00:21,203 --> 01:00:24,828 ♪♪ 1188 01:00:24,862 --> 01:00:27,209 He can often do things off-center. 1189 01:00:27,244 --> 01:00:29,487 He can have a house out on the left, 1190 01:00:29,522 --> 01:00:31,248 with just fields to the right. 1191 01:00:31,282 --> 01:00:33,871 Or the famous one of the boy running down the hill, 1192 01:00:33,906 --> 01:00:35,839 where you've got all that emptiness, 1193 01:00:35,873 --> 01:00:38,462 and then this little energetic, dark figure 1194 01:00:38,496 --> 01:00:40,464 that is racing from the hill. 1195 01:00:40,498 --> 01:00:43,363 His aerial views, his worm-eye views, 1196 01:00:43,398 --> 01:00:48,230 his ways of featuring windows and doors up close, 1197 01:00:48,265 --> 01:00:50,992 so that it's a frame within a frame. 1198 01:00:51,026 --> 01:00:54,167 ♪♪ 1199 01:00:54,202 --> 01:00:56,100 He would say, over and over again, 1200 01:00:56,135 --> 01:00:58,206 that he liked to turn his paintings upside down 1201 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,072 and judge the composition by what he saw. 1202 01:01:02,106 --> 01:01:05,247 ♪♪ 1203 01:01:05,282 --> 01:01:07,905 And if it didn't have the strength of composition, 1204 01:01:07,940 --> 01:01:09,596 then it wasn't yet a good painting, 1205 01:01:09,631 --> 01:01:11,322 as far as he was concerned. 1206 01:01:11,357 --> 01:01:12,876 -When you're looking at these paintings, 1207 01:01:12,910 --> 01:01:15,326 I think you have a sense of unease, almost, 1208 01:01:15,361 --> 01:01:17,950 of restlessness, of depth, 1209 01:01:17,984 --> 01:01:21,367 even if you don't know the stories. 1210 01:01:21,401 --> 01:01:25,129 ♪♪ 1211 01:01:25,164 --> 01:01:27,269 This is the Kuerners' kitchen. 1212 01:01:27,304 --> 01:01:30,100 "Groundhog Day" was begun in this room, 1213 01:01:30,134 --> 01:01:32,309 and it started with him having lunch here 1214 01:01:32,343 --> 01:01:34,345 and just seeing the fall of light, 1215 01:01:34,380 --> 01:01:36,278 the sunshine across the wallpaper. 1216 01:01:36,313 --> 01:01:38,487 That just struck his imagination. 1217 01:01:38,522 --> 01:01:40,524 And as he himself later said, 1218 01:01:40,558 --> 01:01:43,389 "I left and went up on the hill 1219 01:01:43,423 --> 01:01:46,012 and sat on the hill and looked down on the house 1220 01:01:46,047 --> 01:01:50,672 and started to make sketches from memory." 1221 01:01:50,707 --> 01:01:52,398 -And I sat up there 1222 01:01:52,432 --> 01:01:56,229 and I began to think of that kitchen way down below. 1223 01:01:56,264 --> 01:01:59,198 And that's when I began to dream about what I wanted. 1224 01:01:59,232 --> 01:02:03,133 I wanted you to feel the enclosure of the building 1225 01:02:03,167 --> 01:02:05,307 and yet the country outside. 1226 01:02:05,342 --> 01:02:08,207 -So, after imagining the whole concept, 1227 01:02:08,241 --> 01:02:09,277 he came back. 1228 01:02:09,311 --> 01:02:10,588 By this time, Karl had gone. 1229 01:02:10,623 --> 01:02:13,074 And he started to sketch Mrs. Kuerner 1230 01:02:13,108 --> 01:02:17,078 seated by the windowsill, and the family dog, Nellie. 1231 01:02:17,112 --> 01:02:20,944 They became part of this galaxy of the painting 1232 01:02:20,978 --> 01:02:24,257 that he gradually simplified. 1233 01:02:24,292 --> 01:02:26,639 He made dozens and dozens of drawings 1234 01:02:26,673 --> 01:02:30,022 as he tried to think about, "What is the key image here?" 1235 01:02:30,056 --> 01:02:33,335 And it boiled down to just the empty table 1236 01:02:33,370 --> 01:02:35,475 waiting for Karl to come home. 1237 01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:38,271 -Karl was off at a farm sale, 1238 01:02:38,306 --> 01:02:42,724 but there was his place, set. 1239 01:02:42,759 --> 01:02:45,037 It's more of a portrait of Karl 1240 01:02:45,071 --> 01:02:49,041 than almost if it had been him being there, you know? 1241 01:02:49,075 --> 01:02:52,976 Knives were very important to him, as a man. 1242 01:02:53,010 --> 01:02:55,047 I mean, cutting up animals, 1243 01:02:55,081 --> 01:02:58,153 and he always carried a knife with him. 1244 01:02:58,188 --> 01:03:03,055 I think there was a fork there, but that didn't interest me, 1245 01:03:03,089 --> 01:03:06,230 'cause I wanted to express this real person. 1246 01:03:06,265 --> 01:03:08,992 -That's that sense of imminence in the painting. 1247 01:03:09,026 --> 01:03:11,580 And then there's this strange story of the dog -- 1248 01:03:11,615 --> 01:03:15,032 you know, the nasty dog. It was a guard dog. 1249 01:03:15,067 --> 01:03:19,416 -The log outside of the window with that tooth, 1250 01:03:19,450 --> 01:03:22,143 like the fangs of the dog, 1251 01:03:22,177 --> 01:03:23,696 really became the dog 1252 01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:25,491 so that I could eliminate the dog. 1253 01:03:25,525 --> 01:03:28,494 I realized that I was overtelling my story, 1254 01:03:28,528 --> 01:03:32,291 because there were the sharp teeth of that German shepherd. 1255 01:03:32,325 --> 01:03:34,569 -So, if you're looking out the window of the painting, 1256 01:03:34,603 --> 01:03:37,537 there's this scary log staring at you 1257 01:03:37,572 --> 01:03:41,058 that looks like it's about to come charging into the kitchen. 1258 01:03:41,093 --> 01:03:44,648 That sense of violence in the very dog 1259 01:03:44,682 --> 01:03:47,237 and in the Karl Kuerner who's not there anymore 1260 01:03:47,271 --> 01:03:49,446 is part of the restlessness of this painting, 1261 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,482 because on the one hand, it's so serene, 1262 01:03:51,517 --> 01:03:53,174 and then, the more you look at it, 1263 01:03:53,208 --> 01:03:55,452 the more there are these unsettling aspects 1264 01:03:55,486 --> 01:03:57,316 that can't really be explained. 1265 01:03:57,350 --> 01:03:59,387 And they're part of that distillation 1266 01:03:59,421 --> 01:04:01,734 of how he came to make the image. 1267 01:04:01,768 --> 01:04:08,085 ♪♪ 1268 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,777 -One of things I greatly admire about Andrew Wyeth 1269 01:04:10,812 --> 01:04:13,746 is his staying on course. 1270 01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:17,094 Andrew was very confident in his technique. 1271 01:04:17,129 --> 01:04:19,648 He never took outside advice. 1272 01:04:19,683 --> 01:04:23,273 We who are scholars are beginning to recognize 1273 01:04:23,307 --> 01:04:24,619 that there are even places 1274 01:04:24,653 --> 01:04:28,174 where the curse never did him any harm. 1275 01:04:28,209 --> 01:04:35,043 ♪♪ 1276 01:04:35,078 --> 01:04:38,150 -[ Speaking Japanese ] 1277 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,413 -[ Speaking Japanese ] 1278 01:05:00,448 --> 01:05:02,346 [ Applause ] 1279 01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:16,705 ♪♪ 1280 01:05:16,740 --> 01:05:19,777 -Japanese art historians and museum curators 1281 01:05:19,812 --> 01:05:23,126 have never really understood what goes on in this country 1282 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,198 around Andrew Wyeth and have always honored him 1283 01:05:26,232 --> 01:05:30,478 but also just been magnificent audiences. 1284 01:05:30,512 --> 01:05:33,308 -[ Speaking Japanese ] 1285 01:05:41,661 --> 01:05:43,629 ♪♪ 1286 01:06:07,411 --> 01:06:10,380 ♪♪ 1287 01:06:10,414 --> 01:06:12,347 -The Japanese and their love 1288 01:06:12,382 --> 01:06:15,626 of finding meaning and feeling in landscapes, 1289 01:06:15,661 --> 01:06:18,905 feel that Andrew has been theirAmerican painter, 1290 01:06:18,940 --> 01:06:21,425 because that is the kind of aesthetic 1291 01:06:21,460 --> 01:06:24,601 that they honor and look for in their artists. 1292 01:06:24,635 --> 01:06:34,611 ♪♪ 1293 01:06:34,645 --> 01:06:44,621 ♪♪ 1294 01:06:44,655 --> 01:06:50,282 ♪♪ 1295 01:06:50,316 --> 01:06:53,457 -[ Speaking Japanese ] 1296 01:08:43,567 --> 01:08:46,467 ♪♪ 1297 01:09:08,385 --> 01:09:14,702 ♪♪ 1298 01:09:14,736 --> 01:09:16,531 -American artist Andrew Wyeth, 1299 01:09:16,566 --> 01:09:18,361 who is known for powerful paintings 1300 01:09:18,395 --> 01:09:20,052 of tenderness and mystery, 1301 01:09:20,086 --> 01:09:22,986 turns out to have kept the biggest mystery so well. 1302 01:09:23,020 --> 01:09:26,334 -For 15 years, Helga was the secret occupation 1303 01:09:26,369 --> 01:09:29,337 of America's best-known living artist. 1304 01:09:29,372 --> 01:09:36,413 ♪♪ 1305 01:09:36,448 --> 01:09:38,139 -I think it was a scandal 1306 01:09:38,174 --> 01:09:40,866 partly because he'd kept all of this work secret. 1307 01:09:40,900 --> 01:09:42,523 And everybody was titillated 1308 01:09:42,557 --> 01:09:44,525 by the idea that he had a whole body of work 1309 01:09:44,559 --> 01:09:46,596 that he was not telling his wife about, 1310 01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:48,736 not telling the rest of the world about, 1311 01:09:48,770 --> 01:09:50,600 and that there were a lot of nudes involved 1312 01:09:50,634 --> 01:09:52,015 and a beautiful young woman. 1313 01:09:52,049 --> 01:09:55,467 So that, in itself, was a kind of soap opera. 1314 01:09:55,501 --> 01:10:00,679 -The day that it broke, we had "USA Today," "Time," "Newsweek" 1315 01:10:00,713 --> 01:10:04,476 just zeroing in on the farm here 1316 01:10:04,510 --> 01:10:06,650 and wanting to know all about this. 1317 01:10:06,685 --> 01:10:10,758 My father said, you know, "I'm sick of this. 1318 01:10:10,792 --> 01:10:13,450 I'm going to get rid of them. I'll be back in 15 minutes." 1319 01:10:13,485 --> 01:10:18,938 Well, an hour goes by and, uh, he doesn't show up. 1320 01:10:18,973 --> 01:10:21,665 And finally, he comes back, and I say, "Where were you?" 1321 01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:23,874 He says, "I'm gonna be on the six o'clock news!" 1322 01:10:23,909 --> 01:10:25,945 Couldn't resist. [ Laughs ] 1323 01:10:25,980 --> 01:10:28,603 -A large body of work on one subject... 1324 01:10:28,638 --> 01:10:30,087 -Over and over, he drew her. 1325 01:10:30,122 --> 01:10:33,815 -You had asked about what Chadds Ford was like. 1326 01:10:33,850 --> 01:10:35,921 It wasn't as wild as Maine. 1327 01:10:35,955 --> 01:10:38,820 -The Wyeths have not explained the mystery. 1328 01:10:38,855 --> 01:10:41,685 -They went out to their island to get away, 1329 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,654 and there were helicopters going over. 1330 01:10:44,688 --> 01:10:48,244 ♪♪ 1331 01:10:48,278 --> 01:10:50,763 -To an outsider looking in, 1332 01:10:50,798 --> 01:10:53,697 there's a story unbeknownst to them 1333 01:10:53,732 --> 01:10:56,493 that draws them in like a magnet. 1334 01:10:56,528 --> 01:10:58,530 -Just the daring of this show. 1335 01:10:58,564 --> 01:11:01,809 The explicitness of some of the images. 1336 01:11:01,843 --> 01:11:03,224 -The show is sensational. 1337 01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:05,847 I don't care what the critics say. 1338 01:11:05,882 --> 01:11:11,094 -That story was then twisted into a manipulation. 1339 01:11:11,128 --> 01:11:13,269 -There is endless speculation 1340 01:11:13,303 --> 01:11:16,996 that it was all a publicity stunt. 1341 01:11:17,031 --> 01:11:20,276 -He was accused of having done the whole thing 1342 01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:22,070 in order to create headlines, 1343 01:11:22,105 --> 01:11:24,590 and that the secret was not a secret, 1344 01:11:24,625 --> 01:11:26,903 it was a conspiracy. 1345 01:11:28,732 --> 01:11:30,872 -I don't know if I told you 1346 01:11:30,907 --> 01:11:37,603 about him sharing with me why he did the Helga paintings. 1347 01:11:37,638 --> 01:11:41,124 ♪♪ 1348 01:11:41,158 --> 01:11:44,748 He said, "I needed to be away from Betsy 1349 01:11:44,783 --> 01:11:47,855 and have some space." 1350 01:11:47,889 --> 01:11:50,892 -He was so happy not to ever pay bills, 1351 01:11:50,927 --> 01:11:54,551 not to ever sell prints, not to do any of that. 1352 01:11:54,586 --> 01:11:56,553 Betsy took care of all of that. 1353 01:11:56,588 --> 01:11:58,762 Betsy wanted to see whatever he painted that day, 1354 01:11:58,797 --> 01:12:01,903 do the catalogue raisonné, number it, and so forth. 1355 01:12:01,938 --> 01:12:04,906 -Why did you keep the paintings a secret? 1356 01:12:04,941 --> 01:12:10,049 -Because I'd been painting houses, barns, 1357 01:12:10,084 --> 01:12:14,191 and all of a sudden, I saw this girl, 1358 01:12:14,226 --> 01:12:16,711 and I said, "My God, if I could get her to pose, 1359 01:12:16,746 --> 01:12:20,577 she personifies everything I feel. 1360 01:12:20,612 --> 01:12:21,923 And that's it. 1361 01:12:21,958 --> 01:12:24,201 I'm not going to tell anyone about this. 1362 01:12:24,236 --> 01:12:27,550 I'm just going to paint it." 1363 01:12:27,584 --> 01:12:30,622 -He wanted to fulfill his soul. 1364 01:12:30,656 --> 01:12:33,210 He needed just to do that for himself. 1365 01:12:33,245 --> 01:12:35,937 He was always producing. No artist wants 1366 01:12:35,972 --> 01:12:38,664 to be taken for granted that you produce -- 1367 01:12:38,699 --> 01:12:40,770 produce for the sake of producing. 1368 01:12:40,804 --> 01:12:43,359 You'll never, never produce anything good 1369 01:12:43,393 --> 01:12:47,086 if you don't have something you paint for yourself. 1370 01:12:47,121 --> 01:12:57,096 ♪♪ 1371 01:12:57,131 --> 01:13:04,794 ♪♪ 1372 01:13:04,828 --> 01:13:07,797 -When word of the Helga collection came out, 1373 01:13:07,831 --> 01:13:12,871 that was really shocking to her. 1374 01:13:12,905 --> 01:13:15,080 She looked at me, and she said, "Did you know?" 1375 01:13:15,114 --> 01:13:17,254 And I said, "No. I had no idea." 1376 01:13:17,289 --> 01:13:19,843 ♪♪ 1377 01:13:19,878 --> 01:13:23,709 200 drawings and watercolors. 1378 01:13:23,744 --> 01:13:26,988 The rest were framed temperas. 1379 01:13:27,023 --> 01:13:30,716 I kept seeing these and looking at her, 1380 01:13:30,751 --> 01:13:33,063 and looking at her looking at the paintings, 1381 01:13:33,098 --> 01:13:35,859 and thinking, "What is she thinking? 1382 01:13:35,894 --> 01:13:39,345 How can she separate her emotion 1383 01:13:39,380 --> 01:13:44,730 from the real appreciation of the paintings?" 1384 01:13:44,765 --> 01:13:47,630 -It unsettled her, the fact that I never told her. 1385 01:13:47,664 --> 01:13:49,839 And it still bothers her. 1386 01:13:49,873 --> 01:13:53,049 But she realizes that she's living with a man 1387 01:13:53,083 --> 01:13:56,190 that's wrapped up in my painting. 1388 01:13:56,224 --> 01:14:00,712 -Meanwhile, Helga felt betrayed, 1389 01:14:00,746 --> 01:14:05,337 because he promised her that he would not let them out. 1390 01:14:05,371 --> 01:14:08,167 -How prepared can you get? 1391 01:14:08,202 --> 01:14:10,411 You don't know what's going to happen, you know? 1392 01:14:10,446 --> 01:14:13,345 I was never made for the public. 1393 01:14:13,379 --> 01:14:15,865 I really wasn't. 1394 01:14:15,899 --> 01:14:19,144 ♪♪ 1395 01:14:19,178 --> 01:14:22,181 -So, you have two very different personalities. 1396 01:14:22,216 --> 01:14:25,115 Betsy was extremely controlling. 1397 01:14:25,150 --> 01:14:27,946 Helga was extremely adaptable. 1398 01:14:27,980 --> 01:14:32,468 If he wanted to go down the ravine in the winter -- 1399 01:14:32,502 --> 01:14:35,712 One time he told me she carried a dead deer up a hill. 1400 01:14:35,747 --> 01:14:37,921 So she would just do whatever he said. 1401 01:14:37,956 --> 01:14:40,234 Betsy would argue. 1402 01:14:40,268 --> 01:14:43,375 -He took what I had to say, and I took what he had to say. 1403 01:14:43,409 --> 01:14:45,377 It's a mutual thing. 1404 01:14:45,411 --> 01:14:49,070 You sense it, what he needs. 1405 01:14:49,105 --> 01:14:54,697 There was no question about it. You just did it naturally. 1406 01:14:54,731 --> 01:14:57,078 That's a gift. 1407 01:14:57,113 --> 01:15:00,944 -It was something that I was doing, 1408 01:15:00,979 --> 01:15:04,983 and my imagination -- I painted every minute. 1409 01:15:05,017 --> 01:15:09,746 ♪♪ 1410 01:15:09,781 --> 01:15:12,508 -Being able to paint Helga gave him 1411 01:15:12,542 --> 01:15:16,857 all of this magnificent energy he never had before. 1412 01:15:16,891 --> 01:15:19,376 He was actually able to double the work. 1413 01:15:19,411 --> 01:15:22,069 -I was a force. 1414 01:15:22,103 --> 01:15:24,796 Don't you see? I gave him confidence. 1415 01:15:27,074 --> 01:15:29,248 I didn't have any doubts. 1416 01:15:29,283 --> 01:15:32,079 -Many of the things he was doing concurrently 1417 01:15:32,113 --> 01:15:35,289 are related to these Helga works. 1418 01:15:35,323 --> 01:15:41,364 ♪♪ 1419 01:15:41,398 --> 01:15:44,850 -Betsy -- she has a sense of order. 1420 01:15:44,885 --> 01:15:47,853 She can't stand chaos. 1421 01:15:47,888 --> 01:15:51,270 You have a collection over 15 years, 1422 01:15:51,305 --> 01:15:54,032 and she always wants to know 1423 01:15:54,066 --> 01:15:56,310 what came first, second, third, fourth. 1424 01:15:56,344 --> 01:15:59,209 What helped her deal with this whole thing 1425 01:15:59,244 --> 01:16:01,798 was to put everything in order. 1426 01:16:01,833 --> 01:16:04,560 And that was the only thing that grounded her. 1427 01:16:04,594 --> 01:16:10,048 She was so big to rise above it 1428 01:16:10,082 --> 01:16:13,499 and really appreciate the works for what they were. 1429 01:16:13,534 --> 01:16:18,021 ♪♪ 1430 01:16:18,056 --> 01:16:19,816 -The Helga pictures have 1431 01:16:19,851 --> 01:16:21,818 some extraordinary, beautiful paintings. 1432 01:16:21,853 --> 01:16:24,441 They are not only fabulous, 1433 01:16:24,476 --> 01:16:28,066 in terms of their technique and the quality of the painting, 1434 01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,309 but the composition, the subject matter, 1435 01:16:30,344 --> 01:16:32,380 they are really striking pictures. 1436 01:16:32,415 --> 01:16:34,348 So I think they're some of his finest paintings. 1437 01:16:34,382 --> 01:16:36,592 And now that we're at a distance -- 1438 01:16:36,626 --> 01:16:39,215 20 years, 25 years away -- I think we can see 1439 01:16:39,249 --> 01:16:41,044 the excellence in these paintings. 1440 01:16:41,079 --> 01:16:42,908 There's still, of course, 1441 01:16:42,943 --> 01:16:45,531 an erotic story that's unavoidable. 1442 01:16:45,566 --> 01:16:47,499 That's potent in these pictures. 1443 01:16:47,533 --> 01:16:50,606 But I think we can also see them as great paintings. 1444 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,368 -I think every painting has a mystery to it 1445 01:16:54,402 --> 01:16:57,923 that only the artist and the subject know... 1446 01:16:57,958 --> 01:17:01,271 that will never be shared in reality. 1447 01:17:03,101 --> 01:17:08,416 -We danced and we laughed at the whole world together. 1448 01:17:08,451 --> 01:17:13,111 I think he rediscovered the whole world in himself. 1449 01:17:13,145 --> 01:17:23,121 ♪♪ 1450 01:17:23,155 --> 01:17:33,131 ♪♪ 1451 01:17:33,165 --> 01:17:35,547 -When you know something and feel it 1452 01:17:35,581 --> 01:17:38,999 and have a love for it, my God, do it. 1453 01:17:39,033 --> 01:17:41,104 Don't let it go by. 1454 01:17:41,139 --> 01:17:45,108 ♪♪ 1455 01:17:45,143 --> 01:17:47,179 -Andrew Wyeth got up in the morning 1456 01:17:47,214 --> 01:17:49,319 and went out and made drawings. 1457 01:17:51,218 --> 01:17:52,529 [ Chuckles ] 1458 01:17:52,564 --> 01:17:54,393 ♪♪ 1459 01:17:54,428 --> 01:18:01,228 He spent the entire day walking, exploring, sketching, thinking. 1460 01:18:01,262 --> 01:18:05,888 I think he was an artist 24 hours a day. 1461 01:18:05,922 --> 01:18:07,924 -It's like you're being a child again. 1462 01:18:07,959 --> 01:18:11,997 You can do what you want, and you can do what you love. 1463 01:18:12,722 --> 01:18:16,484 How many people in life get to do what they love to do? 1464 01:18:16,519 --> 01:18:19,108 -I've never met anyone else 1465 01:18:19,142 --> 01:18:22,042 that was alive in the world the way he was. 1466 01:18:22,076 --> 01:18:25,666 -He painted up until the end. 1467 01:18:25,701 --> 01:18:28,220 ♪♪ 1468 01:18:28,255 --> 01:18:30,533 Oh, gosh. 1469 01:18:30,567 --> 01:18:34,433 when he was dying in bed, in the upper bedroom, 1470 01:18:34,468 --> 01:18:36,953 someone said, "Come here, look." 1471 01:18:36,988 --> 01:18:41,095 And he was asleep, but his hand... 1472 01:18:41,130 --> 01:18:45,617 ♪♪ 1473 01:18:45,651 --> 01:18:48,206 -He was drawing, in the dream. 1474 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,210 ♪♪ 1475 01:18:52,244 --> 01:18:55,592 -His final words to me, when we were saying goodbye 1476 01:18:55,627 --> 01:18:58,147 and I leaned down and he pulled me in 1477 01:18:58,181 --> 01:19:00,011 and looked at me right in the eye 1478 01:19:00,045 --> 01:19:02,082 and said, "Give them hell." 1479 01:19:02,116 --> 01:19:08,295 -I'm so glad he lived past 2000, because it was a sea change. 1480 01:19:08,329 --> 01:19:11,470 And they had a "Rediscovering Andrew Wyeth" session 1481 01:19:11,505 --> 01:19:14,542 at the big national convention of art historians. 1482 01:19:14,577 --> 01:19:17,028 And the young people threw aside 1483 01:19:17,062 --> 01:19:20,100 all the horrible criticism of their seniors, 1484 01:19:20,134 --> 01:19:22,378 rebelled, and looked at Andrew Wyeth. 1485 01:19:22,412 --> 01:19:25,036 He got to participate in nine years of that, 1486 01:19:25,070 --> 01:19:27,521 of hearing people look at him anew. 1487 01:19:27,555 --> 01:19:30,041 ♪♪ 1488 01:19:30,075 --> 01:19:33,044 -We're in the gallery of the exhibition 1489 01:19:33,078 --> 01:19:34,804 "Andrew Wyeth In Retrospect," 1490 01:19:34,839 --> 01:19:37,220 at the Brandywine River Museum of Art. 1491 01:19:37,255 --> 01:19:41,328 This exhibition being seen here and on the West Coast 1492 01:19:41,362 --> 01:19:46,643 surveys seven decades of one of America's most iconic artists. 1493 01:19:46,678 --> 01:19:49,267 We really see this exhibition 1494 01:19:49,301 --> 01:19:52,753 as a chance to reintroduce Andrew Wyeth 1495 01:19:52,788 --> 01:19:55,514 to a generation of museumgoers, 1496 01:19:55,549 --> 01:19:57,793 and to the people that already know him, 1497 01:19:57,827 --> 01:20:00,450 really help them dig deeper 1498 01:20:00,485 --> 01:20:03,384 into this remarkable artist's work. 1499 01:20:03,419 --> 01:20:07,630 -I just wish now that he could see the reviews 1500 01:20:07,664 --> 01:20:10,426 coming in for the Seattle show 1501 01:20:10,460 --> 01:20:14,292 and the Brandywine "In Retrospect" show. 1502 01:20:14,326 --> 01:20:16,535 Because they're amazing. 1503 01:20:16,570 --> 01:20:18,572 -I think we've moved beyond 1504 01:20:18,606 --> 01:20:22,300 the easy opposition of realism and abstraction 1505 01:20:22,334 --> 01:20:25,855 which I think was the story back in the 1960s. 1506 01:20:25,890 --> 01:20:28,202 And I think it's now possible to see him 1507 01:20:28,237 --> 01:20:30,722 as just a different way of being modern. 1508 01:20:30,756 --> 01:20:36,555 ♪♪ 1509 01:20:36,590 --> 01:20:39,455 -He painted his own backyard. 1510 01:20:39,489 --> 01:20:43,700 When you paint what you know and what you know with truth, 1511 01:20:43,735 --> 01:20:46,669 that love is universal. 1512 01:20:46,703 --> 01:20:50,086 -Wyeth's pictures always capture people. 1513 01:20:50,121 --> 01:20:54,332 They stare at them and just roam around in them. 1514 01:20:54,366 --> 01:20:57,128 When we did the exhibition at the museum, 1515 01:20:57,162 --> 01:20:59,406 it actually was not unusual to find people in tears 1516 01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:00,890 in front of the paintings, 1517 01:21:00,925 --> 01:21:04,825 and paintings that weren't overtly sad. 1518 01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:07,759 It opened up memories in people, 1519 01:21:07,793 --> 01:21:10,486 and I think that's one of the powers in his work, 1520 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,869 is that the emotion that he banks into the picture 1521 01:21:13,903 --> 01:21:17,493 allows people to unlock emotion of their own. 1522 01:21:17,527 --> 01:21:21,911 ♪♪ 1523 01:21:21,946 --> 01:21:26,295 -If you look at the light on the corner of the wall 1524 01:21:26,329 --> 01:21:30,333 in the window in "Groundhog Day," 1525 01:21:30,368 --> 01:21:34,268 there is nothing, anywhere, written 1526 01:21:34,303 --> 01:21:37,547 in the history of art, about art -- 1527 01:21:37,582 --> 01:21:40,412 no words compare to what he did. 1528 01:21:40,447 --> 01:21:44,554 ♪♪ 1529 01:21:44,589 --> 01:21:49,663 That sunlight traveled eight minutes from the sun, 1530 01:21:49,697 --> 01:21:52,873 came through the atmosphere, 1531 01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:54,461 through that window, 1532 01:21:54,495 --> 01:21:57,291 and struck the side of that window frame 1533 01:21:57,326 --> 01:21:59,155 and that wall. 1534 01:21:59,190 --> 01:22:01,675 ♪♪ 1535 01:22:01,709 --> 01:22:04,264 And he got it. 1536 01:22:04,298 --> 01:22:11,616 ♪♪ 1537 01:22:11,650 --> 01:22:15,620 -But you see how important it is to be in a surrounding, 1538 01:22:15,654 --> 01:22:19,417 and breathe it, and then it happens... 1539 01:22:19,451 --> 01:22:21,246 if you're lucky, 1540 01:22:21,281 --> 01:22:24,249 and you're perceptive enough to catch it. 1541 01:22:24,284 --> 01:22:26,424 ♪♪ 1542 01:22:26,458 --> 01:22:29,116 I'm really painting my own life. 111474

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