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-He paints the soul,
not just an image.
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-That was what was amazing
about my father.
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He saw things that other
people just wouldn't see.
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[ Creaks ]
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-He had almost a painful
sensitivity.
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-The abstraction
in his pictures.
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The fantastic
compositional sense.
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And the toughness in them.
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[ Pencil scratching ]
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In some ways the sadness,
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the meditations
on death and nature...
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[ Thunder rumbles ]
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...they're so 20th century.
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-There's a darkness
to Andrew Wyeth's work.
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There's a drama.
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-If you really look at his work,
it's pretty scary stuff.
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It's kind of like
a Robert Frost poem.
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You could say it's some horse
in the woods with a sleigh
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and the snow,
but really read it,
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it's a hell of a lot more
than that.
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-Make the hair on the back
of your neck stand up.
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And you realize that something
more is going on in the world.
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[ Bird caws ]
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[ Bird caws ]
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-Andrew Wyeth is one
of the most highly regarded
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of American painters,
if not themost.
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-Andrew Wyeth, leading
American artist,
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is honored at the White House.
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-This is the Whitney Museum
in New York.
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Normal daily attendance
of art lovers, 500.
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For a recent Wyeth exhibit,
the average was 5,000 a day.
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Attendance records were broken
in Philadelphia,
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Baltimore, and Chicago, too.
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-In the '60s, Andrew Wyeth
was the very top artist.
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-There is something in Wyeth
that appeals to the uninitiated
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and the connoisseur alike.
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He has a mass audience
that may be greater
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than any other
living artist ever had.
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-In a way, his popular following
was a curse.
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-He had a huge audience,
he had many collectors,
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and he was criticized for that.
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-Poor Andrew Wyeth.
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He has committed the final sins
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against the art establishment.
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People like his work,
and he's making money now
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instead of 400 years
after his death.
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-There were lines around
the block at the Whitney,
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but that was also
the kiss of death.
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-I first met the Wyeths in
the early '70s.
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I came out to Chadds Ford
to meet Betsy and Andrew Wyeth,
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and found both of them
very interesting people.
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I think I somehow thought
Andrew Wyeth
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would be more of a bumpkin,
or a hermit or a farmer type,
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but what I found was somebody
who served me
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the strongest cocktail
I'd had in a long time,
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who made me laugh,
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and I found his wife beautiful,
but also very clearly,
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I was going to have to
win her approval,
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because she wanted only
the best for Andrew Wyeth.
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But I also came away thinking
this is a much more complicated
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and interesting artist
than I think I know
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from what's been
written about him in the past.
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-One thing that stands out about
Andrew Wyeth's work
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in contrast to the work
of most of his contemporaries
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is that he grew up and lived in
two places and two places alone
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during a long and productive
life as an artist --
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Chadds Ford...
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[ Bell clangs ]
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...Port Clyde and Cushing.
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The places that define his life
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were these two
rural communities.
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New York was the center
of the art world.
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That was not Andy's world.
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-Painting to me
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is a matter of truth
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and...
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maybe of memory.
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-He had an extraordinary
childhood.
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Most artists struggle to
find themselves as artists.
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Wyeth was raised from childhood
to be an artist --
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Protected, cultivated.
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I think of him
like an Olympic athlete.
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N.C. Wyeth, his dad,
developed him,
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trained him, encouraged him.
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-He taught me everyday living,
seeing things around me.
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Seeing the imagination of what
you can make out of nothing.
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-N.C. Wyeth was a famous
classic illustrator.
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He painted big,
bold illustrations.
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-N.C. Wyeth moved to this area
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in order to study with
Howard Pyle who had
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a summer school in Chadds Ford
up near the Brandywine Valley.
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Howard Pyle was known as the
father of American illustration.
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People say his best student
was N.C. Wyeth.
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Howard Pyle instilled
in all his students
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a number of things that show up
all through the Wyeths,
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and one of them is
the Brandywine Valley.
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Just scrape the earth,
and you find the battlefields
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and you find the blood
and you find the soldiers
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and the powders on their
trousers from the Revolution.
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-N.C. Wyeth was struck
by this area.
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-"Among those misty grey
hills of Chadds Ford,
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along the stretches
of those succulent meadows
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with their peaceful cattle,
and those big sad trees,
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and the quaint
and humble stone farmhouses
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tucked underneath them,
there is that spirit
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which exactly appeals to the
deepest appreciation of my soul.
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To me, it is all like
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wonderfully soft
and liquid music."
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-N.C. Wyeth, very quickly,
within six years or so,
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became very famous
as a western artist.
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[ Indistinct shouting ]
[ Gunshots ]
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Scribner's Books
was one of his major clients.
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In 1911, they offered him
a commission
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to illustrate "Treasure Island."
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They were an absolute sensation,
and for the next decade,
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he churned out
these Scribner's books --
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all the classics --
"Robinson Crusoe,"
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"The Boy's King Arthur."
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-I think today we have
a much broader understanding
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of N.C. Wyeth.
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He has a reputation today
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he didn't really enjoy seeing
in his own lifetime.
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-He very much wanted to be
a painter, not an illustrator.
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And in the first half
of the 20th Century,
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that was a distinction
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that almost everyone
in the art business made.
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-"I want to be a painter.
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I respect illustration,
but I realize,
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keener than ever before,
the terrible rut I'm in.
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A dangerous one, too.
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I shall continue illustrating
by all means,
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that has its commercial value,
my bread and butter,
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but I want to be able
to paint a picture.
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And this is as far from
the realms of illustration
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as black is from white.
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I want to paint a picture
with nothing but a soul.
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-He was a generous man,
he was not a selfish man,
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and you gotta be selfish
to paint.
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His love for the family
overpowered him.
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-He and his wife ended up having
a family of five children.
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There were three girls
and two boys.
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It was a very creative family.
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Henriette, Carolyn, and Andrew
would become painters,
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Nat, a chemical engineer,
and Ann, a composer.
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-N.C. Wyeth thought
that creative adults
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retained the spirit
of childhood.
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So it was very important for him
to make that childhood
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for each of his children
so incredibly valuable
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through memory.
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-N.C. had an ability to
transform ordinary occurrences
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into bigger and better drama
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than they might have
held themselves.
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-The Christmases that he created
for his children.
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He would dress as Santa Claus.
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It wasn't the traditional
St. Nick that we know.
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And he had
a rather grotesque mask.
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-Old Kris, as we called him,
was to me a terrifying man.
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He was a big man.
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And I remember when I was about
8 years old lying in bed
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and we heard stamping feet
on the top of the roof.
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And I was terrified...
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to the point that I wet the bed.
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I just tell you that story
'cause that's how he believed
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in exciting our imaginations.
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-N.C. Wyeth knew that he
wanted to be very involved
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in the upbringing
of his children,
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and so he built this studio,
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which is literally 25 steps
away from the house.
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-I can just imagine
what a magical place
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this must have been
as a little kid
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to be running around
in these spaces
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and to be able to see
what Daddy was painting,
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because he often painted
very large-scale works
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of figures that were
larger than life.
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-The studio was full of props
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that N.C. Wyeth needed
as an illustrator.
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There are swords.
There are guns here.
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There were a lot of costumes --
Robin Hood, King Arthur.
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So these were all available
to the children.
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Everything that could
stimulate their imagination.
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-And I made up my own stories
of what was happening around me.
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These hills became
Sherwood Forest,
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the English countryside,
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or the battlefields of France.
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All these imaginary things
floated through my mind.
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[ Bird calling ]
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-One of the things that most
fascinated Andrew Wyeth
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was the amount
of World War I objects
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that were here in the studio.
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N.C. Wyeth did not go abroad
during World War I,
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but he was critically aware
that he was not experiencing
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the war as many artists did,
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so he spent a lot of time
saving photographs
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of the battlefields in France,
the trenches,
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villages that had been
totally bombed.
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[ Projectiles whistling,
explosions ]
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[ Gunfire ]
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-N.C. Wyeth also had in the
studio boxes of stereo cards,
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two images taken by
a dual camera.
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He would put these
in a hand-held machine,
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the two images on the card
would come into focus,
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so you would have this amazing
3-D image in front of you.
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[ Propeller whirring, gunfire ]
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There were human bodies.
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There were horse carcasses.
[ Horse neighs ]
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There was, of course,
all sorts of mangled machinery.
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Really, the horror of the war
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is absolutely displayed
in these images.
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Young Andrew Wyeth
would sit in the studio here
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and page through them.
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[ Explosions, gunfire ]
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-He collected
these small soldiers
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which were made in Germany --
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and German soldiers
and American soldiers.
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-I can look at those soldiers
and remember the names
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of practically
every one of them,
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make up my own stories.
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-"The Big Parade,"
the movie by King Vidor,
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which he saw as a child,
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he was deeply influenced
by that film.
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[ Bombs whistling ]
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[ Loud explosions ]
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I, myself, watched it
at least 30 times with him.
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He watched it probably
over 200 times.
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So, you know, that's kind of
more than just liking a movie.
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-The French girl trying
to find him in the crowd,
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and the motion of the trucks,
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and the gun carriages going,
and her figure there.
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I thought it was very dramatic
leaving her lone figure there
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against that rather --
that painted background.
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But interesting, what you
can do with almost nothing.
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♪♪
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[ Footsteps ]
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-You know, you picked
a perfect day here.
256
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This is the type of day
my father loved.
257
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You know, cold and sort of
partly overcast
258
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and not bright
and sunny and cheery.
259
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[ Chuckles ]
260
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♪♪
261
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-Chadds Ford is nestled in
a valley that has seen it grow
262
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but it still has
its natural qualities.
263
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There's still
an innocence to it.
264
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♪♪
265
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-He loved winter.
He loved snow.
266
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He liked the bareness of
the landscape and the quality.
267
00:14:06,155 --> 00:14:09,124
He could see the bones
in the landscape here.
268
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-My father's studio is really
these hills and these woods,
269
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and it's not bucolic
and pretty, you know?
270
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I mean, it has an edge to it.
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There are bare bones.
The trees are dying.
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That's what he adored.
273
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-I may do a weed in the field
or a dead crow
274
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or just leaves under the ice.
275
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I know all of this background
and I sense all of this.
276
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-As a young teenager,
after he'd accomplished
277
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several remarkable ink drawings
of medieval soldiers,
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his father realized
that he was ready
279
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to enter the studio
as a student.
280
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-"Dear Papa, Andy is showing
phenomenal ability in drawing,
281
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which is beyond doubt
more than a phase."
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♪♪
283
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"I may establish a man Wyeth
284
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in my studio to carry on
after all."
285
00:15:03,972 --> 00:15:06,284
-And he had a rather strict
curriculum
286
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that he insisted upon --
you had to learn to draw
287
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before you learn to paint,
288
00:15:10,426 --> 00:15:12,428
and, of course,
there would be dad the critic
289
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to give him an immediate
critique.
290
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Andrew, I think, said
when he was growing up
291
00:15:17,123 --> 00:15:20,126
he was a little sometimes
scared of his father
292
00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,405
because his father's opinion
seemed to count for so much.
293
00:15:23,439 --> 00:15:28,375
N.C. Wyeth was an oil painter.
294
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Tempera he tried his hand at,
as well,
295
00:15:30,964 --> 00:15:32,690
but didn't like it as much.
296
00:15:32,724 --> 00:15:34,485
-What is tempera?
297
00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:38,282
Yes, well, it's been going
since the early Renaissance.
298
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You have to have an egg.
You crack it.
299
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Separate the yolk
from the white.
300
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Then, you prick it.
301
00:15:46,704 --> 00:15:50,052
And then you grind it
with your pigments
302
00:15:50,087 --> 00:15:52,227
and a little water.
303
00:15:52,261 --> 00:15:56,438
Andrew just took
to it immediately.
304
00:15:56,472 --> 00:16:02,996
-As Andrew said, oil is powerful
and loud and bright colors,
305
00:16:03,031 --> 00:16:05,688
and tempera is quiet.
306
00:16:05,723 --> 00:16:08,691
♪♪
307
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Oil as if by Beethoven,
and tempera as if by Bach.
308
00:16:14,111 --> 00:16:19,530
♪♪
309
00:16:19,564 --> 00:16:22,360
-He liked the dryness of it.
310
00:16:22,395 --> 00:16:26,399
I think it matched
his own brooding quality
311
00:16:26,433 --> 00:16:28,297
in some of his paintings.
312
00:16:28,332 --> 00:16:30,161
-In a funny sense,
313
00:16:30,196 --> 00:16:33,440
I think it's a reaction
against his father's work,
314
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which was very bright,
very strong colors,
315
00:16:36,616 --> 00:16:39,584
vibrant, and so forth.
316
00:16:39,619 --> 00:16:41,241
-He did a painting,
317
00:16:41,276 --> 00:16:44,175
one of his early temperas,
called "Turkey Pond."
318
00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:47,040
It's just this wonderful
field with some trees,
319
00:16:47,075 --> 00:16:49,077
with a figure walking away,
320
00:16:49,111 --> 00:16:51,044
and he was very excited
about it.
321
00:16:51,079 --> 00:16:53,495
And so he called his father
to come see it.
322
00:16:53,529 --> 00:16:55,738
And my grandfather said,
323
00:16:55,773 --> 00:16:58,396
"Andy, you got to put a gun
in his hand.
324
00:16:58,431 --> 00:17:01,054
You have to have hunting dogs
in it," you know?
325
00:17:01,089 --> 00:17:06,128
Completely missing [Chuckles]
what his son was doing.
326
00:17:06,163 --> 00:17:07,647
And I don't think N. C. Wyeth
did that
327
00:17:07,681 --> 00:17:09,338
because he was worried
328
00:17:09,373 --> 00:17:11,237
that his son wouldn't be able
to survive as a painter.
329
00:17:11,271 --> 00:17:13,618
"You got tell a story, Andy."
[ Film projector clicking ]
330
00:17:13,653 --> 00:17:18,037
And as much as my father
adored his father's work,
331
00:17:18,071 --> 00:17:22,765
I feel his paintings
were a reaction against it,
332
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,390
to say, "There is another way,
another voice,
333
00:17:26,424 --> 00:17:28,323
and this is my voice."
334
00:17:28,357 --> 00:17:30,049
♪♪
335
00:17:30,083 --> 00:17:32,430
-What other people say
about his work,
336
00:17:32,465 --> 00:17:35,157
like the dark tones
and all that,
337
00:17:35,192 --> 00:17:37,194
well, that's
more like a mystery.
338
00:17:37,228 --> 00:17:40,438
That's not something bad.
339
00:17:40,473 --> 00:17:45,064
It's something that gives you
space to dream for yourself.
340
00:17:45,098 --> 00:17:49,585
♪♪
341
00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:52,278
When he was painting the earth
and the snow in winter,
342
00:17:52,312 --> 00:17:58,318
you can't wait of what's
underneath in the snow.
343
00:17:58,353 --> 00:18:00,562
♪♪
344
00:18:00,596 --> 00:18:03,703
Life after death.
345
00:18:03,737 --> 00:18:06,326
Always, out of death,
comes life again.
346
00:18:06,361 --> 00:18:13,609
♪♪
347
00:18:13,644 --> 00:18:16,509
[ Birds calling ]
348
00:18:16,543 --> 00:18:18,752
[ Engine rumbling ]
349
00:18:18,787 --> 00:18:23,826
-This is the house where
my father met my mother.
350
00:18:23,861 --> 00:18:27,313
Ma's father was
a newspaper editor.
351
00:18:27,347 --> 00:18:29,660
And he had heard of N.C. Wyeth,
352
00:18:29,694 --> 00:18:32,835
and he called upon him
in Port Clyde.
353
00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:35,873
And when he was there,
he met my father,
354
00:18:35,907 --> 00:18:37,392
and he told my father,
he said, "You know,
355
00:18:37,426 --> 00:18:39,428
I've got three
attractive daughters."
356
00:18:39,463 --> 00:18:42,328
So, my father, on his birthday,
a few days later,
357
00:18:42,362 --> 00:18:45,124
drove over here,
knocked on the door,
358
00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:48,196
and met my mother.
359
00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:52,821
-When they first met,
Betsy's sisters came with him
360
00:18:52,855 --> 00:18:57,170
one day to the other peninsula,
where Eight Bells was,
361
00:18:57,205 --> 00:19:01,588
which is where N.C. Wyeth's
house was.
362
00:19:01,623 --> 00:19:04,246
Andy was showing them
the studio,
363
00:19:04,281 --> 00:19:07,284
and Gwen had had
some art training,
364
00:19:07,318 --> 00:19:11,150
and she was going on and on
about a painting.
365
00:19:11,184 --> 00:19:13,186
And Betsy's kind of like this.
366
00:19:13,221 --> 00:19:14,774
And he turned to Betsy
and he said,
367
00:19:14,808 --> 00:19:17,673
"Miss James, which painting
do youlike?"
368
00:19:17,708 --> 00:19:21,194
And she said, "I like that one."
369
00:19:21,229 --> 00:19:22,885
And it was a tempera portrait
370
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,923
of Walt Anderson,
his great friend.
371
00:19:25,957 --> 00:19:28,581
♪♪
372
00:19:28,615 --> 00:19:32,378
And I think Andrew knew,
at that moment,
373
00:19:32,412 --> 00:19:37,590
that this girl knew so much more
than he felt his father did,
374
00:19:37,624 --> 00:19:41,904
because no one was encouraging
him in tempera painting.
375
00:19:41,939 --> 00:19:44,459
She said, "You know, Mary,
376
00:19:44,493 --> 00:19:48,911
when I was being courted
by Andrew Wyeth,
377
00:19:48,946 --> 00:19:52,225
it was a wild,
passionate courtship.
378
00:19:52,260 --> 00:19:55,401
I received letters
from him every day.
379
00:19:55,435 --> 00:19:57,368
Sometimes two a day.
380
00:19:57,403 --> 00:19:59,784
They had drawings in them,
381
00:19:59,819 --> 00:20:02,615
and I came home
and we were married.
382
00:20:02,649 --> 00:20:05,238
And then we went up to Maine.
383
00:20:05,273 --> 00:20:07,861
And we had fun on a boat
for a little while,
384
00:20:07,896 --> 00:20:12,659
and then -- pshoo --
right back into the studio.
385
00:20:12,694 --> 00:20:19,321
And I realized, then and there,
I came second to his paintings.
386
00:20:19,356 --> 00:20:21,496
Painting was his life.
387
00:20:21,530 --> 00:20:26,432
And I had to choose
to be with him or not."
388
00:20:26,466 --> 00:20:30,884
♪♪
389
00:20:30,919 --> 00:20:33,887
-My father had absolutely
zero interest
390
00:20:33,922 --> 00:20:36,925
in money or possessions.
391
00:20:36,959 --> 00:20:39,410
And so she took all those
elements out of his work.
392
00:20:39,445 --> 00:20:42,758
I think, when he started to have
a degree of success and whatnot,
393
00:20:42,793 --> 00:20:44,864
she made sure that it wasn't
going to impinge
394
00:20:44,898 --> 00:20:46,555
on what he wanted to do,
395
00:20:46,590 --> 00:20:49,662
and all he wanted
to do was paint.
396
00:20:49,696 --> 00:20:52,009
-Andrew Wyeth would not be
Andrew Wyeth without Betsy.
397
00:20:52,043 --> 00:20:54,736
-At the young age
of 18 years old,
398
00:20:54,770 --> 00:20:57,911
Betsy became Andrew's manager.
399
00:20:57,946 --> 00:20:59,637
-She was self-taught.
400
00:20:59,672 --> 00:21:02,675
When he had a dealer,
Robert Macbeth,
401
00:21:02,709 --> 00:21:04,884
it's interesting to see
some of the early letters
402
00:21:04,918 --> 00:21:10,510
of this young 18-, 19-year-old
questioning the commission
403
00:21:10,545 --> 00:21:14,514
that they were paying
on some of Andy's work.
404
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:16,965
-What a pair they were.
Oh, my God.
405
00:21:16,999 --> 00:21:20,382
Whoo. What a force!
[ Chuckling ] Gosh.
406
00:21:20,417 --> 00:21:23,454
-She was the one that was
very strict on him,
407
00:21:23,489 --> 00:21:25,353
forced him to, as she would say,
408
00:21:25,387 --> 00:21:27,631
"work on it
until it couldn't be better."
409
00:21:27,665 --> 00:21:29,805
I think that charged him.
410
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,705
-He was very dependent
on her eye.
411
00:21:32,739 --> 00:21:36,812
-He would bring a painting home
and show it to her proudly
412
00:21:36,847 --> 00:21:38,849
and hang it on the wall
in the mill,
413
00:21:38,883 --> 00:21:40,885
and they would work
on a title together.
414
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,578
In that painting that he did,
the interior,
415
00:21:43,612 --> 00:21:45,649
where the old couple
is in the bed,
416
00:21:45,683 --> 00:21:48,686
I got to be there to watch
this process of titling it.
417
00:21:48,721 --> 00:21:51,033
His would be something
like "Morning Star" --
418
00:21:51,068 --> 00:21:53,622
there's a star out the window,
a planet rising or something.
419
00:21:53,657 --> 00:21:55,452
And Betsy walks
around the corner,
420
00:21:55,486 --> 00:21:58,006
from the kitchen,
and she looks at us
421
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:03,045
and she looks at the painting,
and she says, "Marriage."
422
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,530
And as soon as
she said "Marriage,"
423
00:22:04,564 --> 00:22:06,014
Andy and I looked at it,
424
00:22:06,048 --> 00:22:09,880
and the whole painting --
voom -- just changed.
425
00:22:09,914 --> 00:22:13,987
It went from being a painting
about two people in bed,
426
00:22:14,022 --> 00:22:17,128
with a window and a landscape,
427
00:22:17,163 --> 00:22:23,065
to how difficult
a relationship could be.
428
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:26,690
I mean, she was a master
at finding that thing
429
00:22:26,724 --> 00:22:29,486
that broke it
into another realm.
430
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,384
-And it was
all her own thinking,
431
00:22:31,419 --> 00:22:33,006
and she would just do it.
432
00:22:33,041 --> 00:22:34,870
"It's going to be done,
it's going to be done this way,
433
00:22:34,905 --> 00:22:36,872
because I say so."
434
00:22:36,907 --> 00:22:38,909
[ Laughs ]
435
00:22:38,943 --> 00:22:42,395
What a remarkable
sort of partnership
436
00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:43,603
my mother and father were.
437
00:22:43,638 --> 00:22:46,157
I mean, they both were
438
00:22:46,192 --> 00:22:48,746
two halves
of this remarkable whole.
439
00:22:48,781 --> 00:22:53,130
♪♪
440
00:22:53,164 --> 00:22:56,823
It was my mother that,
shortly after they were married,
441
00:22:56,858 --> 00:22:59,550
said, you know, "You don't
want to become an illustrator
442
00:22:59,585 --> 00:23:01,483
like your father.
443
00:23:01,518 --> 00:23:07,420
I mean, come on, break away."
444
00:23:07,455 --> 00:23:10,458
-He was offered,
Andrew Wyeth was,
445
00:23:10,492 --> 00:23:14,496
a contract to be an illustrator
446
00:23:14,531 --> 00:23:16,118
for "Saturday Evening Post,"
447
00:23:16,153 --> 00:23:20,433
and N.C. Wyeth, I believe,
wanted him to accept it.
448
00:23:20,468 --> 00:23:22,711
-N.C. Wyeth was, um --
449
00:23:22,746 --> 00:23:25,611
[Chuckling] was a man
to be reckoned with.
450
00:23:25,645 --> 00:23:29,131
Very, very powerful individual,
mm-hmm.
451
00:23:29,166 --> 00:23:31,513
But my mother was also.
452
00:23:31,548 --> 00:23:36,449
-And Betsy Wyeth persuaded
Andrew not to accept it,
453
00:23:36,484 --> 00:23:39,141
because he would then follow
in N.C. Wyeth's footsteps
454
00:23:39,176 --> 00:23:41,868
and be tortured by the fact
that he could never
455
00:23:41,903 --> 00:23:45,665
get out of that box
called an illustrator.
456
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:48,737
-My father and his father,
N.C. Wyeth,
457
00:23:48,772 --> 00:23:50,601
were very, very close,
458
00:23:50,636 --> 00:23:53,708
but my mother never got along
with N.C. Wyeth.
459
00:23:53,742 --> 00:23:58,022
She, you know --
She took Andy away from him.
460
00:23:58,057 --> 00:24:00,231
-I think, you know,
when he married my mother,
461
00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:01,923
you know, he needed the freedom.
462
00:24:01,957 --> 00:24:03,821
He adored his father,
463
00:24:03,856 --> 00:24:06,859
but I think
it totally set him free.
464
00:24:06,893 --> 00:24:09,724
♪♪
465
00:24:12,347 --> 00:24:16,524
-I am just stunned
by his technical expertise.
466
00:24:16,558 --> 00:24:20,804
He is such a fabulous draftsman.
467
00:24:20,838 --> 00:24:25,256
-To see his hands actually
go through a drawing,
468
00:24:25,291 --> 00:24:28,501
he was like a conductor
with a symphony.
469
00:24:28,536 --> 00:24:31,884
-Andy could paint the wind.
470
00:24:31,918 --> 00:24:36,854
♪♪
471
00:24:36,889 --> 00:24:38,649
-"Dear Andy,
472
00:24:38,684 --> 00:24:41,687
Well, I've had a great feast
on your mounted watercolors.
473
00:24:41,721 --> 00:24:43,689
They look magnificent.
474
00:24:43,723 --> 00:24:46,036
And with no reservations
whatsoever,
475
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:50,523
they represent the very best
watercolors I ever saw.
476
00:24:50,558 --> 00:24:53,699
This remark from your old dad
may not mean much to you,
477
00:24:53,733 --> 00:24:57,081
but I believe what I say
and I'm certain I'm right.
478
00:24:57,116 --> 00:24:58,773
You are headed in the direction
479
00:24:58,807 --> 00:25:02,293
that should finally reach
a pinnacle in American art."
480
00:25:02,328 --> 00:25:04,779
-When Andrew Wyeth's work
was first seen,
481
00:25:04,813 --> 00:25:08,023
he had a watercolor
show in 1937,
482
00:25:08,058 --> 00:25:11,026
when he was all of 20 years old,
483
00:25:11,061 --> 00:25:13,166
-"Dear Henriette and Pete,
484
00:25:13,201 --> 00:25:15,168
What better thing could I do,
Henriette,
485
00:25:15,203 --> 00:25:16,825
on our birthday anniversary,
486
00:25:16,860 --> 00:25:18,620
than to write you
the phenomenal news
487
00:25:18,655 --> 00:25:21,554
that Andy's exhibition
of 23 watercolors
488
00:25:21,589 --> 00:25:24,902
were completely sold out before
the close of the second day.
489
00:25:24,937 --> 00:25:27,077
Well, now all this
does set me up.
490
00:25:27,111 --> 00:25:29,182
God damn it, Chadds Ford
has started something.
491
00:25:29,217 --> 00:25:30,908
Now let's finish it."
492
00:25:30,943 --> 00:25:34,222
-He was a bright
and rising young star.
493
00:25:34,256 --> 00:25:37,915
-For the first 10 years or so
of his exhibiting life,
494
00:25:37,950 --> 00:25:40,297
he was an artist
to keep your eye on.
495
00:25:40,331 --> 00:25:44,197
He had very high success
in selling,
496
00:25:44,232 --> 00:25:46,959
but also critical success.
497
00:25:46,993 --> 00:25:50,790
♪♪
498
00:25:50,825 --> 00:25:52,999
-"My dear Henriette,
499
00:25:53,034 --> 00:25:55,070
The bulwark of my stay here
this summer
500
00:25:55,105 --> 00:25:57,038
will be Andy's accomplishments.
501
00:25:57,072 --> 00:25:59,592
His watercolors have
so definitely advanced
502
00:25:59,627 --> 00:26:01,698
into an impressive maturity.
503
00:26:01,732 --> 00:26:03,251
Some that he's done
in the last few days
504
00:26:03,285 --> 00:26:04,942
are acutely abstract.
505
00:26:04,977 --> 00:26:06,288
Their impact upon anyone
506
00:26:06,323 --> 00:26:09,740
whose sensitiveness lies
beyond romance and drama
507
00:26:09,775 --> 00:26:12,087
makes it hard
to hold back tears.
508
00:26:12,122 --> 00:26:14,814
What magical power that boy has!
509
00:26:14,849 --> 00:26:16,678
I am at once
stimulated beyond words
510
00:26:16,713 --> 00:26:22,753
to a new, purer effect
and plunged into black despair."
511
00:26:22,788 --> 00:26:24,928
-My grandfather
was terribly proud of him,
512
00:26:24,962 --> 00:26:27,724
but I think there was a certain
competitive thing, too.
513
00:26:27,758 --> 00:26:29,933
I think my grandfather
became very depressed
514
00:26:29,967 --> 00:26:31,659
about his own work.
515
00:26:31,693 --> 00:26:34,662
And here was this son
having shows in New York
516
00:26:34,696 --> 00:26:38,976
and selling out and doing
very sort of exciting things.
517
00:26:39,011 --> 00:26:40,633
[ Film projector clicking ]
518
00:26:40,668 --> 00:26:42,117
-He meant a great deal to me,
519
00:26:42,152 --> 00:26:43,878
and we had a marvelous time
together.
520
00:26:43,912 --> 00:26:47,088
And he was a terrific --
not just as a father
521
00:26:47,122 --> 00:26:51,161
but as someone to talk to.
You know?
522
00:26:51,195 --> 00:26:56,822
And I think having him taken
away so quickly and abruptly,
523
00:26:56,856 --> 00:26:58,133
it really jolted me.
524
00:26:58,168 --> 00:26:59,859
[ Train wheels clacking ]
525
00:26:59,894 --> 00:27:01,171
[ Train whistle blows ]
526
00:27:01,205 --> 00:27:03,138
[ Train rumbling ]
527
00:27:03,173 --> 00:27:04,726
[ Rumbling fades ]
528
00:27:15,185 --> 00:27:16,704
[ Wind rushing ]
529
00:27:16,738 --> 00:27:20,190
-He was up in Maine
when N.C. was killed.
530
00:27:20,224 --> 00:27:23,124
[ Bell tolls ]
531
00:27:23,158 --> 00:27:27,300
The day of the funeral,
Andy wanted to see his father,
532
00:27:27,335 --> 00:27:30,096
wanted to spend
some time alone with him.
533
00:27:30,131 --> 00:27:34,307
And Andy said to me,
534
00:27:34,342 --> 00:27:37,345
"I went into that room.
535
00:27:37,379 --> 00:27:39,243
The windows were open,
536
00:27:39,278 --> 00:27:45,077
and I saw the light
come across my father's face,
537
00:27:45,111 --> 00:27:50,116
and the wind out the windows
blowing the leaves."
538
00:27:50,151 --> 00:27:52,291
♪♪
539
00:27:52,325 --> 00:27:56,916
Tears are starting to well up
as if he's reliving it.
540
00:27:56,951 --> 00:27:59,022
He says, "I had to do that --
541
00:27:59,056 --> 00:28:02,197
to spend time with him.
542
00:28:02,232 --> 00:28:05,718
And seeing the beauty
of the wind,
543
00:28:05,753 --> 00:28:08,203
the light across his face.
544
00:28:08,238 --> 00:28:12,207
This is what I'm trying
to tell you.
545
00:28:12,242 --> 00:28:13,761
Paint your life history,
546
00:28:13,795 --> 00:28:16,073
do the things
that mean something to you."
547
00:28:16,108 --> 00:28:18,800
And I'm crying now,
and he's crying.
548
00:28:18,835 --> 00:28:20,077
[ Film projector clicking ]
549
00:28:20,112 --> 00:28:23,115
♪♪
550
00:28:23,149 --> 00:28:27,326
"Do the things
that are your own."
551
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,260
♪♪
552
00:28:30,294 --> 00:28:32,503
"Paint your life."
553
00:28:32,538 --> 00:28:39,131
♪♪
554
00:28:39,165 --> 00:28:44,205
-He described to me going,
and seeing his body aligned
555
00:28:44,239 --> 00:28:47,829
and this chest
that finally was still.
556
00:28:47,864 --> 00:28:51,108
And here, the stillness
of the hill right behind it.
557
00:28:51,143 --> 00:28:54,560
So -- So this hill meant
so many things to him.
558
00:28:54,594 --> 00:28:57,114
♪♪
559
00:28:57,149 --> 00:29:03,431
-I think that it changed me
from just painting pictures
560
00:29:03,465 --> 00:29:06,365
into painting
a reality with an edge,
561
00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:08,539
with a meaning.
562
00:29:08,574 --> 00:29:12,060
His death really gave me
a meaning to paint.
563
00:29:12,095 --> 00:29:13,199
It's a strange thing.
564
00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:16,375
♪♪
565
00:29:16,409 --> 00:29:17,825
[ Bird caws ]
566
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:25,108
♪♪
567
00:29:25,142 --> 00:29:26,523
-Andy explained this one time
568
00:29:26,557 --> 00:29:28,283
early, early on,
569
00:29:28,318 --> 00:29:30,838
coming up over the hill
and you see this little farm.
570
00:29:30,872 --> 00:29:33,254
And he felt like, you know,
he was in Switzerland,
571
00:29:33,288 --> 00:29:36,878
just seeing this little farm
nestled from the hill.
572
00:29:36,913 --> 00:29:38,362
There's a intimacy
about this place,
573
00:29:38,397 --> 00:29:41,538
there's a magic,
the excitement of the unknown.
574
00:29:41,572 --> 00:29:44,541
-This farm, he'd walk over here
from our house,
575
00:29:44,575 --> 00:29:46,267
which is just over the hill,
576
00:29:46,301 --> 00:29:50,167
and just disappear
into the Kuerner world.
577
00:29:50,202 --> 00:29:54,033
-The Kuerners were tremendously
forbearing neighbors
578
00:29:54,068 --> 00:29:58,106
in that they just let Andy Wyeth
come and go, like a ghost.
579
00:29:58,141 --> 00:30:01,109
I mean, he liked it that way.
580
00:30:01,144 --> 00:30:03,871
-Growing up you would see
this figure coming in and out,
581
00:30:03,905 --> 00:30:07,426
which would be Andy,
observing him living his life,
582
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:12,224
and him observing
us living ours.
583
00:30:12,258 --> 00:30:16,193
-He didn't really want
to upset their daily life.
584
00:30:16,228 --> 00:30:18,437
And they just let him creep
through the house
585
00:30:18,471 --> 00:30:20,646
and then disappear.
586
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,374
I think he really enjoyed
that voyeuristic aspect.
587
00:30:24,408 --> 00:30:26,479
It was fabulous freedom for him,
588
00:30:26,514 --> 00:30:28,896
and a sense of his own domain,
589
00:30:28,930 --> 00:30:32,416
where he could be like a fly
on the wall and watch them.
590
00:30:32,451 --> 00:30:35,488
-When I lost my father
in an accident,
591
00:30:35,523 --> 00:30:38,629
right near where Kuerners lived,
592
00:30:38,664 --> 00:30:42,047
and I regretted so that
I hadn't done his portrait.
593
00:30:42,081 --> 00:30:45,982
And Karl reminded me
of my father in many ways.
594
00:30:46,016 --> 00:30:49,433
Karl was a much more
Germanic-looking man,
595
00:30:49,468 --> 00:30:54,128
but they both had that tough
quality, Germanic power.
596
00:30:54,162 --> 00:30:55,646
♪♪
597
00:30:55,681 --> 00:30:59,927
And I realized that here
was my father still alive.
598
00:30:59,961 --> 00:31:02,653
♪♪
599
00:31:02,688 --> 00:31:05,104
See, I needed to stay
600
00:31:05,139 --> 00:31:08,038
around that location
of where he was killed.
601
00:31:08,073 --> 00:31:12,629
It took on a strange quality
of color to me and mood.
602
00:31:12,663 --> 00:31:15,666
♪♪
603
00:31:15,701 --> 00:31:18,704
-Karl is a man of
hog-butchering and hunting,
604
00:31:18,738 --> 00:31:22,259
of guns and knives
and no nonsense,
605
00:31:22,294 --> 00:31:23,985
a man of the land.
606
00:31:24,020 --> 00:31:28,196
-He wasn't just
a Pennsylvania farmer to me.
607
00:31:28,231 --> 00:31:30,992
I mean, I'll be there
alone in that house,
608
00:31:31,027 --> 00:31:34,030
and now, all of a sudden,
a shot will ring out.
609
00:31:34,064 --> 00:31:36,964
[ Gunshots ]
And it's Karl maybe hunting deer
610
00:31:36,998 --> 00:31:39,449
or maybe he was just
target-practicing.
611
00:31:39,483 --> 00:31:41,416
And you'll go into his house
612
00:31:41,451 --> 00:31:45,558
and you'll see these rifles
slung on the wall.
613
00:31:45,593 --> 00:31:48,216
There's a military feeling.
614
00:31:48,251 --> 00:31:51,116
-Karl was a former
machine gunner
615
00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:53,014
in the German army.
616
00:31:53,049 --> 00:31:54,671
And, all of a sudden, it was
617
00:31:54,705 --> 00:31:57,191
as if one of his toy soldiers
had come to life,
618
00:31:57,225 --> 00:32:00,746
because there was Karl Kuerner
with his helmet and his medals
619
00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:05,268
and his coat and his scars
and his battle stories,
620
00:32:05,302 --> 00:32:09,548
willing, in his broken English,
to speak to Andrew Wyeth.
621
00:32:09,582 --> 00:32:13,483
-And that was totally
part of Wyeth's imagination --
622
00:32:13,517 --> 00:32:16,762
the violence that
lurked in his past,
623
00:32:16,796 --> 00:32:21,215
that then somehow enacted itself
in Karl as a hunter.
624
00:32:21,249 --> 00:32:24,114
That latent violence
fascinated Wyeth.
625
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:28,360
He always loved to sort of
poke at the dark side.
626
00:32:28,394 --> 00:32:30,362
-And I think that if you look
627
00:32:30,396 --> 00:32:32,640
at the paintings
of Kuerners of mine,
628
00:32:32,674 --> 00:32:35,367
you'll begin to sense
it's not a quaint farm
629
00:32:35,401 --> 00:32:39,129
where they work in the garden
and they milk their cows.
630
00:32:39,164 --> 00:32:43,513
When they slaughter a pig,
it's -- it's brutal.
631
00:32:43,547 --> 00:32:46,343
♪♪
632
00:32:46,378 --> 00:32:48,656
And I was attracted by this.
633
00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:54,593
♪♪
634
00:32:54,627 --> 00:33:01,151
♪♪
635
00:33:01,186 --> 00:33:04,189
[ Birds chirping ]
636
00:33:04,223 --> 00:33:06,260
-There are very few places
he did this in.
637
00:33:06,294 --> 00:33:08,124
He never traveled.
[ Goat bleats ]
638
00:33:08,158 --> 00:33:12,059
Never went to Europe,
you know, to paint.
639
00:33:12,093 --> 00:33:14,061
He wanted to totally tune in
640
00:33:14,095 --> 00:33:16,373
to something
that he could comprehend
641
00:33:16,408 --> 00:33:20,481
and not look at as a sort of
an interesting scene to paint
642
00:33:20,515 --> 00:33:24,588
or an interesting, you know,
landscape and so forth.
643
00:33:24,623 --> 00:33:26,694
He wanted to get deeper
and deeper and deeper.
644
00:33:26,728 --> 00:33:28,696
And then this --
And he'd get thrilled.
645
00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:30,732
I mean, he would tell me
he couldn't sleep at night,
646
00:33:30,767 --> 00:33:33,563
to get back there the next day
to work on something.
647
00:33:33,597 --> 00:33:41,674
♪♪
648
00:33:41,709 --> 00:33:45,644
I mean, we're talking about
50 years of it, you know?
649
00:33:45,678 --> 00:33:47,680
Wouldn't you think he'd maybe
look for another farm?
650
00:33:47,715 --> 00:33:50,580
No, didn't interest him.
651
00:33:50,614 --> 00:33:56,862
♪♪
652
00:33:56,896 --> 00:34:00,452
And with Kuerner,
even after death,
653
00:34:00,486 --> 00:34:02,868
he then did the painting of Karl
654
00:34:02,902 --> 00:34:07,183
lying on this hillside
as a drift of snow.
655
00:34:07,217 --> 00:34:14,155
♪♪
656
00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:15,467
[ Wind blowing ]
657
00:34:15,501 --> 00:34:19,333
[ Waves washing shoreline ]
658
00:34:19,367 --> 00:34:21,369
[ Bird calling ]
659
00:34:23,233 --> 00:34:26,754
[ Calling continues ]
660
00:34:26,788 --> 00:34:32,484
♪♪
661
00:34:32,518 --> 00:34:37,213
-Maine, to Andy, was like
the surface of the moon.
662
00:34:37,247 --> 00:34:43,771
Harsh, but it was
also...fundamental.
663
00:34:43,805 --> 00:34:46,739
♪♪
664
00:34:46,774 --> 00:34:50,467
-Chadds Ford, Pennsylvania,
there are big stone houses,
665
00:34:50,502 --> 00:34:52,435
big trees, and whatnot.
666
00:34:52,469 --> 00:34:54,609
My father always said, which I
think is absolutely true,
667
00:34:54,644 --> 00:34:57,198
that in Maine, it's as if
a wind could come along
668
00:34:57,233 --> 00:34:58,820
and just -- wshhh --
blow everything away.
669
00:34:58,855 --> 00:35:01,823
People are hanging on
tenaciously.
670
00:35:01,858 --> 00:35:07,208
And to my father, that contrast
was important to him.
671
00:35:07,243 --> 00:35:13,352
-To me, the appeal of Maine
is utter simplicity.
672
00:35:13,387 --> 00:35:18,633
The people that live here
work off the land or the sea.
673
00:35:18,668 --> 00:35:20,566
-I used to help him
a great deal.
674
00:35:20,601 --> 00:35:22,603
I had a dory rowboat,
675
00:35:22,637 --> 00:35:26,469
and I'd row him
around these islands.
676
00:35:26,503 --> 00:35:30,507
-I think Walt was
around 13 or 14
677
00:35:30,542 --> 00:35:32,199
when I first knew him.
678
00:35:32,233 --> 00:35:34,960
And I began to paint him
in watercolors.
679
00:35:34,994 --> 00:35:38,377
I did an early -- one of
my earliest portraits of him.
680
00:35:38,412 --> 00:35:41,242
I didn't look at him
as something picturesque.
681
00:35:41,277 --> 00:35:43,831
He's just full of the devil,
682
00:35:43,865 --> 00:35:47,904
and we spent more
and more time together.
683
00:35:47,938 --> 00:35:49,595
♪♪
684
00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:55,222
He's actually my closest friend
up there.
685
00:35:55,256 --> 00:35:59,743
♪♪
686
00:35:59,778 --> 00:36:02,643
-The Olson House sits
atop a hill,
687
00:36:02,677 --> 00:36:06,647
overlooking the water --
the Cushing peninsula.
688
00:36:06,681 --> 00:36:09,339
The Olson House is
a national historic landmark,
689
00:36:09,374 --> 00:36:11,997
and the reason it's a landmark
is because of the work
690
00:36:12,031 --> 00:36:14,689
that one of America's
most important artists
691
00:36:14,724 --> 00:36:18,452
did over a 30-year period.
692
00:36:18,486 --> 00:36:21,524
-For a number of years,
that's all I painted in Maine,
693
00:36:21,558 --> 00:36:23,698
were the Olsons.
694
00:36:23,733 --> 00:36:26,908
♪♪
695
00:36:26,943 --> 00:36:31,465
I could just pour
all my thoughts,
696
00:36:31,499 --> 00:36:33,708
my imagination ran free,
697
00:36:33,743 --> 00:36:37,298
because the house
was full of, to me,
698
00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:39,576
ghosts of the past
of New England.
699
00:36:39,611 --> 00:36:41,026
I mean, it was unbelievable.
700
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:43,718
They were seafaring people,
the Olsons.
701
00:36:43,753 --> 00:36:46,480
♪♪
702
00:36:46,514 --> 00:36:48,551
[ Film projector clicking ]
-The Olsons were poor.
703
00:36:48,585 --> 00:36:51,519
They were sustenance farmers.
704
00:36:51,554 --> 00:36:55,351
Everyday life was
an extraordinary challenge.
705
00:36:55,385 --> 00:36:58,319
-Christina was not
emotional outwardly.
706
00:36:58,354 --> 00:37:03,013
She was perhaps as serene
as anyone I have ever known.
707
00:37:03,048 --> 00:37:06,362
And she had great poise
and self-confidence,
708
00:37:06,396 --> 00:37:08,640
so that one forgot
the fact that she was lame.
709
00:37:08,674 --> 00:37:12,333
She -- There was no
self-pitying in her.
710
00:37:12,368 --> 00:37:13,886
-Christina Olson suffered
711
00:37:13,921 --> 00:37:18,684
from a still not entirely
diagnosed neurological disease
712
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,548
that gradually, over decades,
713
00:37:20,583 --> 00:37:23,068
deprived her of
the ability to walk.
714
00:37:23,102 --> 00:37:27,106
But by all accounts, she was
a stubborn and proud woman
715
00:37:27,141 --> 00:37:28,970
who refused to use a wheelchair,
716
00:37:29,005 --> 00:37:32,008
and towards the later
years of her life,
717
00:37:32,042 --> 00:37:34,079
literally had to
drag herself around,
718
00:37:34,113 --> 00:37:36,081
inside and outside the house.
719
00:37:36,115 --> 00:37:38,566
-I don't think she thought
of herself maybe as a cripple.
720
00:37:38,601 --> 00:37:39,981
I don't think
she liked that word,
721
00:37:40,016 --> 00:37:42,052
and I don't like it either,
to describe her.
722
00:37:42,087 --> 00:37:43,916
She just accepted things
as they were
723
00:37:43,951 --> 00:37:47,817
and made do with what she had.
724
00:37:47,851 --> 00:37:50,613
-When my mother was 8 or 9,
725
00:37:50,647 --> 00:37:52,408
she wandered up
to the Olson House
726
00:37:52,442 --> 00:37:54,341
and introduced herself
to Christina
727
00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:55,997
and she'd end up
braiding her hair
728
00:37:56,032 --> 00:38:00,381
and helping clean the dishes
and so forth.
729
00:38:00,416 --> 00:38:03,695
-I knew since I was 10
that Christina needed me.
730
00:38:03,729 --> 00:38:05,973
Her polio hadn't
crippled her yet,
731
00:38:06,007 --> 00:38:09,666
and she was very tall,
very thin, delicate.
732
00:38:09,701 --> 00:38:11,427
Absolute lady.
733
00:38:11,461 --> 00:38:14,499
I'd do her hair,
coiled around her head.
734
00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:18,019
Marvelous.
Always dressed in pink or white.
735
00:38:18,054 --> 00:38:20,781
When walking, she'd lean on me,
736
00:38:20,815 --> 00:38:24,819
her bones hitting
against my young bones.
737
00:38:24,854 --> 00:38:29,099
-She was a great friend
of Betsy's, my wife,
738
00:38:29,134 --> 00:38:30,687
who had known her
as a little girl,
739
00:38:30,722 --> 00:38:32,758
which was a great opening
for me.
740
00:38:32,793 --> 00:38:36,590
And I didn't have a studio
at that time.
741
00:38:36,624 --> 00:38:39,558
We were building
a house in Cushing.
742
00:38:39,593 --> 00:38:41,802
And I asked the Olsons
743
00:38:41,836 --> 00:38:44,080
whether I could use
one of the upstairs rooms,
744
00:38:44,114 --> 00:38:49,568
which was deserted, and I did,
and that was how it all started.
745
00:38:49,603 --> 00:38:53,538
-When he grew up, his father
was painting surf booming,
746
00:38:53,572 --> 00:38:54,953
and living in Port Clyde,
747
00:38:54,987 --> 00:38:57,680
which is a fishing community,
and so forth.
748
00:38:57,714 --> 00:39:01,477
And she really introduced him
to another side of Maine.
749
00:39:01,511 --> 00:39:04,065
-Andy first met the Olsons
on his first date
750
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,965
with his soon-wife-to-be
Betsy James.
751
00:39:06,999 --> 00:39:09,899
-The moment I saw him,
something went "boing!"
752
00:39:09,933 --> 00:39:12,108
He looked different
from anyone I'd ever seen.
753
00:39:12,142 --> 00:39:13,765
He stayed for lunch
754
00:39:13,799 --> 00:39:15,905
and talked about things
I'd never heard before --
755
00:39:15,939 --> 00:39:17,872
the light
that came in on the floor.
756
00:39:17,907 --> 00:39:21,669
I never thought I'd find anybody
that would feel that way.
757
00:39:21,704 --> 00:39:23,533
[ Film projector clicking ]
He wanted to see this area,
758
00:39:23,568 --> 00:39:25,639
and I thought,
"Hmm, this will be fun.
759
00:39:25,673 --> 00:39:27,503
I'll take him down
to Christina."
760
00:39:27,537 --> 00:39:30,540
I wanted to see if he would go
inthe Olson House.
761
00:39:30,575 --> 00:39:31,921
A lot of people won't.
762
00:39:31,955 --> 00:39:33,647
The smell and odors.
763
00:39:33,681 --> 00:39:37,167
I judge people by it
without saying anything.
764
00:39:37,202 --> 00:39:39,860
He walked right into the kitchen
to meet Christina.
765
00:39:39,894 --> 00:39:42,863
Was terrific right away.
So natural.
766
00:39:42,897 --> 00:39:44,968
He got by the first hurdle.
767
00:39:45,003 --> 00:39:47,074
We were married a year later.
768
00:39:47,108 --> 00:39:49,076
It's as if he hypnotizes you.
769
00:39:49,110 --> 00:39:52,804
He completely enters the most
secret part of yourself.
770
00:39:52,838 --> 00:39:54,806
-I always think it's so
interesting that my mother,
771
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,602
young Betsy James, who was 17,
772
00:39:57,636 --> 00:40:00,121
she takes him
to the Olson House.
773
00:40:00,156 --> 00:40:02,883
It was hardscrabble
existence in that house.
774
00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:06,231
No electricity, no water,
no refrigeration.
775
00:40:06,265 --> 00:40:08,785
You know, she's sitting
on stacks of newspapers
776
00:40:08,820 --> 00:40:11,201
that she'd urinate on,
and just the smell...
777
00:40:11,236 --> 00:40:13,756
You know, it was --
it was a lot to take.
778
00:40:13,790 --> 00:40:15,792
But he took to it like that,
779
00:40:15,827 --> 00:40:18,070
and -- and look
what he produced from it.
780
00:40:18,105 --> 00:40:22,696
♪♪
781
00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:24,801
-He did several
paintings of her.
782
00:40:24,836 --> 00:40:26,665
There was just something
that he saw,
783
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,736
and said, "I just
have to do this."
784
00:40:28,771 --> 00:40:30,566
♪♪
785
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,258
The old farmhouse
and the way she lived.
786
00:40:33,292 --> 00:40:36,779
And I think
Andy's sometime amazed
787
00:40:36,813 --> 00:40:39,989
that people can survive
in the condition they might be.
788
00:40:40,023 --> 00:40:42,785
Just like her, with no legs,
and you know,
789
00:40:42,819 --> 00:40:46,271
crawl on your stomach
for 65 years,
790
00:40:46,305 --> 00:40:50,586
and do your own work
in the kitchen.
791
00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:55,073
-What Andy chooses not to depict
is the kind of social commentary
792
00:40:55,107 --> 00:40:57,938
that other artists
might have chosen.
793
00:40:57,972 --> 00:41:02,943
He does not really reveal
the depth of poverty
794
00:41:02,977 --> 00:41:05,083
that were part of
everyday life here.
795
00:41:05,117 --> 00:41:13,332
♪♪
796
00:41:13,367 --> 00:41:14,886
Part of it, I think, is
797
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,268
a respect for the people
who were his friends.
798
00:41:18,303 --> 00:41:21,582
-The Olsons became
part of our family,
799
00:41:21,617 --> 00:41:24,274
or more importantly,
we became part of theirfamily.
800
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:26,000
It was a wonderful experience --
801
00:41:26,035 --> 00:41:29,797
they had this enormous house,
these amazing people.
802
00:41:29,832 --> 00:41:31,247
-We had a marvelous time
together.
803
00:41:31,281 --> 00:41:34,181
Sometimes we wouldn't say
a thing for hours,
804
00:41:34,215 --> 00:41:36,770
and then we'd talk.
805
00:41:36,804 --> 00:41:41,360
She felt very easy with me
and, I think, enjoyed it.
806
00:41:41,395 --> 00:41:43,639
But there again was
that communion of what --
807
00:41:43,673 --> 00:41:47,228
it wasn't what was said,
what wasn'tsaid.
808
00:41:47,263 --> 00:41:50,231
-She was wonderfully
motherly and whatnot,
809
00:41:50,266 --> 00:41:52,579
and would bake biscuits
and so forth.
810
00:41:52,613 --> 00:41:54,339
And yet, you know,
to most people,
811
00:41:54,373 --> 00:41:55,927
she looked like a witch.
812
00:41:55,961 --> 00:41:58,377
I mean, she was this
sort of amazing face --
813
00:41:58,412 --> 00:42:01,070
this enormous nose and so forth.
814
00:42:01,104 --> 00:42:03,866
-She had that eye.
815
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:10,320
And everywhere you went,
why, that eye would go with you.
816
00:42:10,355 --> 00:42:15,118
And I mean, it was really
kind of frightening.
817
00:42:15,153 --> 00:42:18,708
-Alvero was a man
of very few words.
818
00:42:18,743 --> 00:42:21,987
-The brother was sort
of anonymous.
819
00:42:22,022 --> 00:42:25,094
But just very, very kind.
820
00:42:25,128 --> 00:42:28,407
And then when they let my father
paint through the house,
821
00:42:28,442 --> 00:42:30,789
it just opened up everything.
822
00:42:30,824 --> 00:42:38,107
♪♪
823
00:42:38,141 --> 00:42:40,109
-And again, it's this world
824
00:42:40,143 --> 00:42:42,732
that my father then
sort of morphed into,
825
00:42:42,767 --> 00:42:46,011
as he had done in Pennsylvania,
I think, with the Kuerner farm.
826
00:42:46,046 --> 00:42:49,636
And...it was magic.
827
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:51,707
♪♪
828
00:42:51,741 --> 00:42:57,264
-I often feel if I could
only be not there to paint.
829
00:42:57,298 --> 00:43:00,129
Just a pair of eyes.
830
00:43:00,163 --> 00:43:01,993
I mean, I'd be working
on Christine,
831
00:43:02,027 --> 00:43:04,685
and Al would come in,
832
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:08,068
step right in front of me,
and get eggs.
833
00:43:08,102 --> 00:43:11,071
I mean, as if I...
You know?
834
00:43:11,105 --> 00:43:14,246
"Oh, Andy, there he is,
sitting there."
835
00:43:14,281 --> 00:43:16,317
You know?
836
00:43:16,352 --> 00:43:18,423
Which is just right.
837
00:43:23,290 --> 00:43:27,121
♪♪
838
00:43:27,156 --> 00:43:30,987
-I saw her crawling out
to a little truck garden she had
839
00:43:31,022 --> 00:43:32,782
next to the house one day.
840
00:43:32,817 --> 00:43:35,923
And it dawned on me,
what a terrific, I mean...
841
00:43:35,958 --> 00:43:38,477
And I went home
and made a quick notation
842
00:43:38,512 --> 00:43:42,723
of this idea
of Christine in the field,
843
00:43:42,758 --> 00:43:46,209
the house in the background.
844
00:43:46,244 --> 00:43:48,695
And several days went by,
845
00:43:48,729 --> 00:43:51,801
and this kept building
in my mind.
846
00:43:51,836 --> 00:43:53,492
-"Christina's World"
is a picture
847
00:43:53,527 --> 00:43:55,702
that's actually kind of hard
to look at anymore,
848
00:43:55,736 --> 00:43:57,945
because it's become such an icon
849
00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:02,363
that to come to it fresh,
it's almost impossible.
850
00:44:02,398 --> 00:44:04,952
But that, in a way,
is a sign of its strength,
851
00:44:04,987 --> 00:44:07,990
that, over decades,
people come back to it,
852
00:44:08,024 --> 00:44:11,062
generation after generation,
and find it haunting.
853
00:44:11,096 --> 00:44:15,066
Even people who don't really
know the story of Christina.
854
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:18,000
-It's enjoyed because
there's a spectrum of emotions
855
00:44:18,034 --> 00:44:19,726
that it can release.
856
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,006
And that might be loneliness,
it might be yearning,
857
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,043
it might be something
that's lost
858
00:44:27,078 --> 00:44:30,426
that can never be seen
or rescued again.
859
00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:32,842
It can look like
somebody's dream --
860
00:44:32,877 --> 00:44:34,533
a nightmare, maybe even.
861
00:44:34,568 --> 00:44:36,501
This woman seen from the rear,
862
00:44:36,535 --> 00:44:40,194
moving herself up towards
a little haunted house
863
00:44:40,229 --> 00:44:44,543
that's on this
very strong horizon.
864
00:44:44,578 --> 00:44:47,443
♪♪
865
00:44:47,477 --> 00:44:49,928
-A woman longing for something.
866
00:44:49,963 --> 00:44:52,344
Some people pick up
that she's crippled.
867
00:44:52,379 --> 00:44:55,969
Some people don't at all,
and just think she's yearning.
868
00:44:56,003 --> 00:45:00,007
I think it's a painting
which so many people
869
00:45:00,042 --> 00:45:04,253
can get free association
with it in an extreme way.
870
00:45:04,287 --> 00:45:08,015
-I knew she had been up
to look at it, though,
871
00:45:08,050 --> 00:45:10,500
because I could see
where the dust
872
00:45:10,535 --> 00:45:13,365
had been swept along
with her body
873
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,126
as she crawled up.
874
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,369
So she knew what I was doing.
875
00:45:17,404 --> 00:45:19,337
-It's a very odd painting.
876
00:45:19,371 --> 00:45:21,546
Everything is
incredibly sharp focus.
877
00:45:21,580 --> 00:45:24,031
It's this crystalline world.
878
00:45:24,066 --> 00:45:26,620
I mean, here you have
a wisp of her hair blowing,
879
00:45:26,654 --> 00:45:29,830
and then, up in the barn,
you know, half a mile away,
880
00:45:29,865 --> 00:45:32,557
is a shadow
of a swallow flying by.
881
00:45:32,591 --> 00:45:34,559
You know, it sure ain't realism.
882
00:45:34,593 --> 00:45:38,114
And that's what I think lifts
it into just another world.
883
00:45:38,149 --> 00:45:44,465
♪♪
884
00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:46,019
[ Film projector clicking ]
885
00:45:46,053 --> 00:45:48,124
♪♪
886
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:50,540
-I grew up with
a young colored boy
887
00:45:50,575 --> 00:45:52,991
who I played with for years.
888
00:45:53,026 --> 00:45:55,925
He was really my closest
companion as a small boy.
889
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,858
Lived over the hill.
890
00:45:57,893 --> 00:46:01,448
And he was remarkable.
891
00:46:01,482 --> 00:46:05,314
And I found he had
great imagination --
892
00:46:05,348 --> 00:46:09,525
much more than
the white boys I knew.
893
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:11,976
-One of Andrew Wyeth's
closest friends in childhood
894
00:46:12,010 --> 00:46:14,910
was David Lawrence, who was
a young African-American boy,
895
00:46:14,944 --> 00:46:19,121
who brought him
to this part of Chadds Ford.
896
00:46:19,155 --> 00:46:22,193
The black community here
was called Little Africa,
897
00:46:22,227 --> 00:46:23,988
which may sound charming now,
898
00:46:24,022 --> 00:46:26,059
but it really reminds us
of an era
899
00:46:26,093 --> 00:46:29,027
when neighborhoods that were
mostly populated by black people
900
00:46:29,062 --> 00:46:31,581
had derisive nicknames
given to them by whites.
901
00:46:31,616 --> 00:46:33,342
♪♪
902
00:46:33,376 --> 00:46:35,654
It was because of
this insider introduction
903
00:46:35,689 --> 00:46:38,140
Wyeth was able to access
these people
904
00:46:38,174 --> 00:46:40,659
for portraits and for paintings.
905
00:46:40,694 --> 00:46:43,283
♪♪
906
00:46:43,317 --> 00:46:46,217
-I didn't paint them because
they were black people.
907
00:46:46,251 --> 00:46:50,014
I painted them because
they were my friends.
908
00:46:50,048 --> 00:46:51,394
And I've always felt
909
00:46:51,429 --> 00:46:57,262
that the blacks have been
painted very poorly.
910
00:46:57,297 --> 00:46:59,540
I'm not saying that
I've done it well,
911
00:46:59,575 --> 00:47:02,474
but I think
they've been caricatured.
912
00:47:02,509 --> 00:47:05,995
Big lips, big eyes.
913
00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:12,277
♪♪
914
00:47:12,312 --> 00:47:15,694
-So, we're here at the ruins
of Mother Archie's Church.
915
00:47:15,729 --> 00:47:17,973
By the middle of
the 20th century,
916
00:47:18,007 --> 00:47:21,631
it was being used
as an African-American church.
917
00:47:21,666 --> 00:47:23,633
The congregation
dwindled to a number
918
00:47:23,668 --> 00:47:25,635
that really couldn't
support it anymore.
919
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:28,224
And it was converted
into a residence.
920
00:47:28,259 --> 00:47:30,502
Different people
that Wyeth painted
921
00:47:30,537 --> 00:47:32,711
lived for a time in the church,
as they did
922
00:47:32,746 --> 00:47:36,543
in different makeshift spaces
around the area.
923
00:47:36,577 --> 00:47:40,616
-We got along the same
as sisters and brothers.
924
00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:43,446
In this place
you call Chadds Ford,
925
00:47:43,481 --> 00:47:47,657
we got along the same
as sisters and brothers.
926
00:47:47,692 --> 00:47:51,316
Andy painted a lot of colored
people's pictures around here.
927
00:47:51,351 --> 00:47:53,042
A lot of 'em.
928
00:47:53,077 --> 00:47:56,045
♪♪
929
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,980
-By the 1960s, Wyeth was
painting Tom Clark a lot.
930
00:48:00,015 --> 00:48:02,086
When Wyeth started painting him,
931
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,365
Tom Clark was a kind of
old and wizened fellow.
932
00:48:05,399 --> 00:48:08,092
In "Garret Room,"
he's a very still figure.
933
00:48:08,126 --> 00:48:11,164
His head is turned away
from the viewer,
934
00:48:11,198 --> 00:48:13,476
and we can't really tell
if he's awake
935
00:48:13,511 --> 00:48:17,066
or if he's sleeping
that eternal sleep.
936
00:48:17,101 --> 00:48:18,447
♪♪
937
00:48:18,481 --> 00:48:20,621
James Loper was
mentally challenged,
938
00:48:20,656 --> 00:48:23,141
and he would take
these long, rambling walks
939
00:48:23,176 --> 00:48:26,144
through the countryside
around the Wyeth compound.
940
00:48:26,179 --> 00:48:31,356
-This James Loper painting,
1950.
941
00:48:31,391 --> 00:48:34,497
His clothes were all old
and fishhooks,
942
00:48:34,532 --> 00:48:37,259
and he was looking up
to the left.
943
00:48:37,293 --> 00:48:40,055
Over his head was a sickle,
944
00:48:40,089 --> 00:48:44,231
and over the sickle
was a white sky.
945
00:48:44,266 --> 00:48:48,304
And unless you were stupid,
you knew what he meant.
946
00:48:48,339 --> 00:48:50,444
I think that's symbolic
947
00:48:50,479 --> 00:48:53,447
of the condition
of the black man
948
00:48:53,482 --> 00:48:55,346
in the white world.
949
00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:58,625
-Willard Snowden was
a hard-luck alcoholic drifter.
950
00:48:58,659 --> 00:49:02,629
The Wyeths gave Snowden a place
to live in the old schoolhouse
951
00:49:02,663 --> 00:49:05,390
that had once been
Andrew's studio.
952
00:49:05,425 --> 00:49:08,255
-He'd been around here,
living in my studio for a year.
953
00:49:08,290 --> 00:49:10,464
I'd made
a lot of drawings of him
954
00:49:10,499 --> 00:49:13,812
to get through to this man,
who was a remarkable man,
955
00:49:13,847 --> 00:49:16,712
had a little problem
of drinking wine.
956
00:49:16,746 --> 00:49:19,370
-Snowden was an alcoholic.
957
00:49:19,404 --> 00:49:23,132
And he constantly needed
to feed that disease.
958
00:49:23,167 --> 00:49:25,307
And Andrew was really
amenable to that,
959
00:49:25,341 --> 00:49:30,795
sometimes using liquor as a way
to get Snowden to sit for him.
960
00:49:30,829 --> 00:49:33,591
He would promise to drive him
to the package store,
961
00:49:33,625 --> 00:49:36,387
before or after those sittings.
962
00:49:36,421 --> 00:49:37,871
This is a complicated thing.
963
00:49:37,905 --> 00:49:39,597
I think that this was emblematic
964
00:49:39,631 --> 00:49:42,255
of how Wyeth treated
people around him,
965
00:49:42,289 --> 00:49:44,740
treated his subjects,
treated his friends.
966
00:49:44,774 --> 00:49:46,707
He was nonjudgmental.
967
00:49:46,742 --> 00:49:48,433
He didn't try to change them
968
00:49:48,468 --> 00:49:51,402
or set them
on a more "correct" path.
969
00:49:51,436 --> 00:49:53,404
He thought of these people
970
00:49:53,438 --> 00:49:56,131
as folks who were struggling
with various challenges.
971
00:49:56,165 --> 00:49:59,582
-One morning, I came here
and I could tell by his lips,
972
00:49:59,617 --> 00:50:03,862
were sort of damp, you know,
and I started drawing.
973
00:50:03,897 --> 00:50:06,486
Actually, it was
right in this spot.
974
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,282
I took this piece of paper
and I'm sitting there,
975
00:50:09,316 --> 00:50:10,835
and he came up and he sat.
976
00:50:10,869 --> 00:50:13,700
He drew his chair up close,
and he was fascinated
977
00:50:13,734 --> 00:50:15,909
by what my hand was doing.
978
00:50:15,943 --> 00:50:17,911
He got sort of hypnotized.
979
00:50:17,945 --> 00:50:22,502
And I did the portrait of him
just here, looking down.
980
00:50:22,536 --> 00:50:26,368
And if you'll notice the wine,
the dampness of his lips
981
00:50:26,402 --> 00:50:29,336
and there's a slight smile,
quizzical.
982
00:50:29,371 --> 00:50:32,581
-In paintings of Snowden,
sometimes we see the ravages
983
00:50:32,615 --> 00:50:35,377
of alcohol
directly affecting his body.
984
00:50:35,411 --> 00:50:38,794
We can see him in these
slightly compromised situations.
985
00:50:38,828 --> 00:50:41,762
Wyeth painted him without
his knowledge, occasionally.
986
00:50:41,797 --> 00:50:44,386
Wyeth both does
a really beautiful thing
987
00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:46,664
in showing his subjects
as they are,
988
00:50:46,698 --> 00:50:50,254
but it's also sometimes
really painful to look at
989
00:50:50,288 --> 00:50:53,153
when you know the stories
of these people's lives.
990
00:50:53,188 --> 00:50:55,742
He was really interested
in finding the dignity
991
00:50:55,776 --> 00:50:57,951
that his subjects had,
and expressing it,
992
00:50:57,985 --> 00:51:00,850
no matter how difficult
their lives were.
993
00:51:00,885 --> 00:51:09,618
♪♪
994
00:51:09,652 --> 00:51:13,311
Andrew Wyeth was in
an important 1940s exhibition
995
00:51:13,346 --> 00:51:14,726
at the Museum of Modern Art,
996
00:51:14,761 --> 00:51:17,660
called "American Realists
and Magic Realists."
997
00:51:17,695 --> 00:51:25,530
♪♪
998
00:51:25,565 --> 00:51:28,257
-He was accepted
among the avant garde.
999
00:51:28,292 --> 00:51:29,983
His work was shown
at the Museum of Modern Art.
1000
00:51:30,017 --> 00:51:32,744
He was seen as a magic realist.
1001
00:51:32,779 --> 00:51:35,540
-His big moment was when
the Museum of Modern Art
1002
00:51:35,575 --> 00:51:37,853
decided to buy
a painting by him.
1003
00:51:37,887 --> 00:51:39,372
That was in '49.
1004
00:51:39,406 --> 00:51:41,581
Of course, that was
"Christina's World."
1005
00:51:41,615 --> 00:51:43,721
♪♪
1006
00:51:43,755 --> 00:51:45,964
So, this looked, at the moment,
1007
00:51:45,999 --> 00:51:48,553
that Andrew Wyeth
was entering into dialogue
1008
00:51:48,588 --> 00:51:50,831
with all the great
modern masters
1009
00:51:50,866 --> 00:51:52,661
that the Museum of Modern Art
collected,
1010
00:51:52,695 --> 00:51:54,766
and he was being integrated
1011
00:51:54,801 --> 00:51:58,287
into what was seen
as the most important collection
1012
00:51:58,322 --> 00:52:00,703
of contemporary art
in this country.
1013
00:52:00,738 --> 00:52:08,401
♪♪
1014
00:52:08,435 --> 00:52:12,267
-I want to express my feelings,
rather than illustrate them.
1015
00:52:12,301 --> 00:52:16,547
♪♪
1016
00:52:16,581 --> 00:52:19,860
Technique is just a means
of arriving at a statement.
1017
00:52:19,895 --> 00:52:22,277
♪♪
1018
00:52:22,311 --> 00:52:25,452
-There comes a moment,
mostly in the '60s and '70s,
1019
00:52:25,487 --> 00:52:26,971
where abstract art
1020
00:52:27,005 --> 00:52:30,354
becomes the definition
of what contemporary art is.
1021
00:52:30,388 --> 00:52:32,942
-Modern artists don't try
to mirror or illustrate
1022
00:52:32,977 --> 00:52:35,255
the new, complex world.
1023
00:52:35,290 --> 00:52:37,775
But like the artists of any age,
they cannot help expressing
1024
00:52:37,809 --> 00:52:39,984
the basic assumptions
of their time.
1025
00:52:40,018 --> 00:52:45,403
-It's the era of de Kooning,
Mark Rothko, Jackson Pollock.
1026
00:52:45,438 --> 00:52:48,510
-I don't work from drawings
or colored sketches.
1027
00:52:48,544 --> 00:52:50,684
My painting is direct.
1028
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,480
-It's always been the
responsibility of an artist
1029
00:52:53,515 --> 00:52:57,898
to examine what is in the world
at this moment.
1030
00:52:57,933 --> 00:53:03,559
An artist can't afford to be
a sentimental commentator.
1031
00:53:03,594 --> 00:53:05,665
-And in that climate,
1032
00:53:05,699 --> 00:53:08,737
Andrew began
to look old-fashioned.
1033
00:53:08,771 --> 00:53:10,670
-But some very few artists
1034
00:53:10,704 --> 00:53:13,362
still find a means
of personal expression
1035
00:53:13,397 --> 00:53:15,606
in the traditional
and the familiar.
1036
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,436
Such a painter is Andrew Wyeth.
1037
00:53:18,471 --> 00:53:20,921
-In the art world,
1038
00:53:20,956 --> 00:53:24,304
Andrew Wyeth was thought of
as a regionalist
1039
00:53:24,339 --> 00:53:27,514
or sort of a down-home painter.
1040
00:53:27,549 --> 00:53:30,483
Maybe just the populism of it,
you know?
1041
00:53:30,517 --> 00:53:31,863
Because he was so popular.
1042
00:53:31,898 --> 00:53:34,418
-There was a sense
that he was easy,
1043
00:53:34,452 --> 00:53:35,867
that the reason he gathered
1044
00:53:35,902 --> 00:53:38,111
these mass audiences
for his exhibition
1045
00:53:38,145 --> 00:53:40,147
was because he was accessible.
1046
00:53:40,182 --> 00:53:42,909
Members of that audience
could understand his art
1047
00:53:42,943 --> 00:53:44,600
and be moved by it
1048
00:53:44,635 --> 00:53:47,396
without having to
work very hard.
1049
00:53:47,431 --> 00:53:50,848
♪♪
1050
00:53:50,882 --> 00:53:53,471
-That's when critics
really started to slam him,
1051
00:53:53,506 --> 00:53:56,785
that, "Oh, he's this popular
with the common man,
1052
00:53:56,819 --> 00:54:01,168
then he can't really
be taken seriously."
1053
00:54:01,203 --> 00:54:03,101
-"Christina's World" --
the painting hangs
1054
00:54:03,136 --> 00:54:05,069
in the Museum of Modern Art
in New York,
1055
00:54:05,103 --> 00:54:07,036
and a million people a year
look at it.
1056
00:54:07,071 --> 00:54:09,901
-There was also,
in that notion of shallowness,
1057
00:54:09,936 --> 00:54:14,112
this sense that Wyeth
played to his audience,
1058
00:54:14,147 --> 00:54:19,048
that he wasn't subtle enough
or nuanced enough.
1059
00:54:19,083 --> 00:54:21,188
-Is it possible
for an artist himself
1060
00:54:21,223 --> 00:54:23,881
to say how he would like
to be described,
1061
00:54:23,915 --> 00:54:26,090
if you could write
the definitive statement?
1062
00:54:26,124 --> 00:54:28,092
-It's very hard
to put it into words,
1063
00:54:28,126 --> 00:54:30,991
but I'd say my whole aim
is to try to do a portrait
1064
00:54:31,026 --> 00:54:34,685
of the things that emotionally
mean a great deal to me.
1065
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,032
-I don't feel he's
a 20th-century artist.
1066
00:54:37,066 --> 00:54:40,622
He doesn't leave anything
up to your own imagination.
1067
00:54:40,656 --> 00:54:43,901
-It's like a typical
poster artist.
1068
00:54:43,935 --> 00:54:45,489
Norman Rockwell.
1069
00:54:45,523 --> 00:54:49,009
Beautiful pictures,
but no emotional feeling.
1070
00:54:49,044 --> 00:54:56,707
♪♪
1071
00:54:56,741 --> 00:55:00,814
-While that may have been
the view of high-art criticism,
1072
00:55:00,849 --> 00:55:03,576
the fact is
he had a huge audience,
1073
00:55:03,610 --> 00:55:06,061
he had many collectors,
and he was criticized for that.
1074
00:55:06,095 --> 00:55:08,166
-And Wyeth was sort of picked on
1075
00:55:08,201 --> 00:55:11,894
as being the poster child
of the reactionary realists,
1076
00:55:11,929 --> 00:55:14,000
I don't think he felt
that was fair.
1077
00:55:14,034 --> 00:55:15,553
-I think all I can say to people
1078
00:55:15,588 --> 00:55:17,831
is, go out and
look at my paintings,
1079
00:55:17,866 --> 00:55:19,246
and do they get more out of it
1080
00:55:19,281 --> 00:55:21,697
or would they rather
have a photograph?
1081
00:55:21,732 --> 00:55:25,908
-I came up with this word
for the critical dispute.
1082
00:55:25,943 --> 00:55:27,703
I would call it the Wyeth Curse.
1083
00:55:27,738 --> 00:55:31,742
It was people judging him
without looking at him.
1084
00:55:31,776 --> 00:55:34,503
And also people
judging his audience
1085
00:55:34,538 --> 00:55:37,886
as if somehow the audience
that went to Andrew Wyeth
1086
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,889
would not be the audience
that would then turn around
1087
00:55:40,923 --> 00:55:43,132
and go see an exhibition
by Jackson Pollock
1088
00:55:43,167 --> 00:55:44,720
or Willem de Kooning.
1089
00:55:44,755 --> 00:55:46,688
And those seemed to me,
in the '70s,
1090
00:55:46,722 --> 00:55:49,242
to be kind of fallacious grounds
1091
00:55:49,276 --> 00:55:52,694
on which to make
a critical judgment.
1092
00:55:52,728 --> 00:55:55,144
-I think it was
disappointing to him.
1093
00:55:55,179 --> 00:55:57,595
-He cared.
I'd go over to his house,
1094
00:55:57,630 --> 00:56:00,287
and some reviews
and articles had come out,
1095
00:56:00,322 --> 00:56:03,670
and he'd have them all spread
out on the dining room table.
1096
00:56:03,705 --> 00:56:06,742
-He could recite
every bad account,
1097
00:56:06,777 --> 00:56:09,020
and I said, "But look
at all the great ones."
1098
00:56:09,055 --> 00:56:11,022
He'd say, "Yeah,
but look at this one."
1099
00:56:11,057 --> 00:56:16,234
♪♪
1100
00:56:16,269 --> 00:56:18,892
-He was so hurt when the critics
1101
00:56:18,927 --> 00:56:21,274
would simply take it
for face value
1102
00:56:21,308 --> 00:56:22,896
and call it photographic,
1103
00:56:22,931 --> 00:56:25,174
because it never was.
1104
00:56:25,209 --> 00:56:27,073
-When "Groundhog Day"
was purchased
1105
00:56:27,107 --> 00:56:28,971
by the
Philadelphia Museum of Art,
1106
00:56:29,006 --> 00:56:32,630
it was the highest price ever
paid for a contemporary artist.
1107
00:56:32,665 --> 00:56:35,668
That almost created
a certain kind of resentment,
1108
00:56:35,702 --> 00:56:38,636
among bohemian artists
who were starving in garrets,
1109
00:56:38,671 --> 00:56:40,535
that Wyeth was so successful,
1110
00:56:40,569 --> 00:56:42,053
that he was making
thousands of dollars
1111
00:56:42,088 --> 00:56:43,917
for realist paintings.
1112
00:56:43,952 --> 00:56:45,988
It somehow rubbed
against the grain.
1113
00:56:46,023 --> 00:56:48,646
And so where Wyeth had actually
been swimming along
1114
00:56:48,681 --> 00:56:50,959
with all these other painters,
happily,
1115
00:56:50,993 --> 00:56:53,133
he suddenly was made into
an opposition.
1116
00:56:53,168 --> 00:56:54,859
It wounded him,
1117
00:56:54,894 --> 00:56:57,206
and he really
was driven into retreat.
1118
00:56:57,241 --> 00:57:00,658
And what he did was run
to Chadds Ford and to Maine
1119
00:57:00,693 --> 00:57:03,937
and just make
his own world for himself.
1120
00:57:03,972 --> 00:57:06,975
♪♪
1121
00:57:07,009 --> 00:57:09,149
-The enviable thing
about painting is
1122
00:57:09,184 --> 00:57:12,049
that you can continue to paint.
It really has no real effect.
1123
00:57:12,083 --> 00:57:15,777
It's not like theater, where
they close the theater, film,
1124
00:57:15,811 --> 00:57:19,297
I mean, you know, bad reviews
and so forth.
1125
00:57:19,332 --> 00:57:21,610
He kept on painting,
1126
00:57:21,645 --> 00:57:24,026
which, of course,
drives the critics mad.
1127
00:57:24,061 --> 00:57:27,858
♪♪
1128
00:57:27,892 --> 00:57:31,793
[ Wind blowing ]
1129
00:57:35,279 --> 00:57:40,077
-I remember, one time,
I was out there in Chadds Ford.
1130
00:57:40,111 --> 00:57:43,218
I get there early,
and it was snowy.
1131
00:57:43,252 --> 00:57:45,669
And I look out the window
of the granary.
1132
00:57:45,703 --> 00:57:49,017
I see Andy walking in the snow.
1133
00:57:49,051 --> 00:57:50,708
And I see him stop,
and he's looking down.
1134
00:57:50,743 --> 00:57:55,126
And he looks down
at this dead deer in the snow.
1135
00:57:55,161 --> 00:57:59,614
And he's just looking at it
for 10 minutes.
1136
00:57:59,648 --> 00:58:02,133
[ Wind blowing ]
1137
00:58:02,168 --> 00:58:04,342
He looks,
his hands behind his back,
1138
00:58:04,377 --> 00:58:06,897
the way he always walked,
and he looked down.
1139
00:58:10,107 --> 00:58:13,075
And eventually...
1140
00:58:13,110 --> 00:58:15,422
he walked back, got in his Jeep,
1141
00:58:15,457 --> 00:58:17,424
drove on to the studio.
1142
00:58:17,459 --> 00:58:27,400
♪♪
1143
00:58:27,434 --> 00:58:32,232
♪♪
1144
00:58:32,267 --> 00:58:35,339
-He's really an artist
who works from memory.
1145
00:58:35,373 --> 00:58:38,273
And I think it's
a mischaracterization of him
1146
00:58:38,307 --> 00:58:40,033
to just call him a realist.
1147
00:58:40,068 --> 00:58:42,035
He doesn't operate
like a camera.
1148
00:58:42,070 --> 00:58:45,383
He's making stuff up.
He's manipulating reality.
1149
00:58:45,418 --> 00:58:48,455
He always admired
the abstract expressionists
1150
00:58:48,490 --> 00:58:51,217
and felt kinship with them.
1151
00:58:51,251 --> 00:58:53,253
♪♪
1152
00:58:53,288 --> 00:58:55,117
Looking at his work,
1153
00:58:55,152 --> 00:58:58,396
you can see the splashiness,
the expressiveness of his work,
1154
00:58:58,431 --> 00:59:00,778
that has a lot in common
with Franz Kline.
1155
00:59:00,813 --> 00:59:03,885
♪♪
1156
00:59:03,919 --> 00:59:06,991
Number two, there is
this surrealistic bent,
1157
00:59:07,026 --> 00:59:08,993
which is deeply modern,
1158
00:59:09,028 --> 00:59:11,168
and then there's a very strong
abstract style
1159
00:59:11,202 --> 00:59:12,928
that he's working with.
1160
00:59:12,963 --> 00:59:14,965
If you look at a painting
like "River Cove,"
1161
00:59:14,999 --> 00:59:18,762
which is really organized
like a Mark Rothko --
1162
00:59:18,796 --> 00:59:21,212
big simple shapes,
1163
00:59:21,247 --> 00:59:23,180
the sense of the
two-dimensional pattern
1164
00:59:23,214 --> 00:59:25,354
on the surface
of the painting --
1165
00:59:25,389 --> 00:59:28,910
he has a really keen sense
of the surface,
1166
00:59:28,944 --> 00:59:31,913
which also makes him
a real '50s painter.
1167
00:59:31,947 --> 00:59:33,915
-One of the awful things
the critics say is
1168
00:59:33,949 --> 00:59:36,434
that he paints
every blade of grass.
1169
00:59:36,469 --> 00:59:38,298
It's like Jackson Pollock.
1170
00:59:38,333 --> 00:59:41,129
If you get up close to it,
it is not every blade of grass.
1171
00:59:41,163 --> 00:59:43,994
It's a strange woven pattern.
1172
00:59:44,028 --> 00:59:46,065
-He was tapping into
the rhythms of nature,
1173
00:59:46,099 --> 00:59:47,894
so he looked at the grass,
he got it,
1174
00:59:47,929 --> 00:59:49,516
it was just --
pop, pop, pop, pop, pop --
1175
00:59:49,551 --> 00:59:52,485
the brush just danced across
the surface of the painting.
1176
00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:55,074
-There's something very odd
about his paintings
1177
00:59:55,108 --> 00:59:57,214
in that all the air
is sucked out.
1178
00:59:57,248 --> 00:59:59,768
There is no atmosphere.
1179
00:59:59,803 --> 01:00:01,252
If you think of
"Christina's World"
1180
01:00:01,287 --> 01:00:03,151
and the little house
way in the distance,
1181
01:00:03,185 --> 01:00:07,120
in real life, that would be
foggy and a little blurry
1182
01:00:07,155 --> 01:00:09,329
and out-of-focus,
way in the distance.
1183
01:00:09,364 --> 01:00:12,332
No, because
there is no atmosphere,
1184
01:00:12,367 --> 01:00:16,267
which gives you a sense
of strange isolation.
1185
01:00:16,302 --> 01:00:18,822
-I don't think
people begin to realize
1186
01:00:18,856 --> 01:00:21,169
how complicated
his compositions are.
1187
01:00:21,203 --> 01:00:24,828
♪♪
1188
01:00:24,862 --> 01:00:27,209
He can often
do things off-center.
1189
01:00:27,244 --> 01:00:29,487
He can have a house
out on the left,
1190
01:00:29,522 --> 01:00:31,248
with just fields to the right.
1191
01:00:31,282 --> 01:00:33,871
Or the famous one of the boy
running down the hill,
1192
01:00:33,906 --> 01:00:35,839
where you've got
all that emptiness,
1193
01:00:35,873 --> 01:00:38,462
and then this little
energetic, dark figure
1194
01:00:38,496 --> 01:00:40,464
that is racing from the hill.
1195
01:00:40,498 --> 01:00:43,363
His aerial views,
his worm-eye views,
1196
01:00:43,398 --> 01:00:48,230
his ways of featuring windows
and doors up close,
1197
01:00:48,265 --> 01:00:50,992
so that it's a frame
within a frame.
1198
01:00:51,026 --> 01:00:54,167
♪♪
1199
01:00:54,202 --> 01:00:56,100
He would say,
over and over again,
1200
01:00:56,135 --> 01:00:58,206
that he liked to turn
his paintings upside down
1201
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,072
and judge the composition
by what he saw.
1202
01:01:02,106 --> 01:01:05,247
♪♪
1203
01:01:05,282 --> 01:01:07,905
And if it didn't have
the strength of composition,
1204
01:01:07,940 --> 01:01:09,596
then it wasn't yet
a good painting,
1205
01:01:09,631 --> 01:01:11,322
as far as he was concerned.
1206
01:01:11,357 --> 01:01:12,876
-When you're looking
at these paintings,
1207
01:01:12,910 --> 01:01:15,326
I think you have
a sense of unease, almost,
1208
01:01:15,361 --> 01:01:17,950
of restlessness, of depth,
1209
01:01:17,984 --> 01:01:21,367
even if you don't know
the stories.
1210
01:01:21,401 --> 01:01:25,129
♪♪
1211
01:01:25,164 --> 01:01:27,269
This is the Kuerners' kitchen.
1212
01:01:27,304 --> 01:01:30,100
"Groundhog Day" was begun
in this room,
1213
01:01:30,134 --> 01:01:32,309
and it started
with him having lunch here
1214
01:01:32,343 --> 01:01:34,345
and just seeing
the fall of light,
1215
01:01:34,380 --> 01:01:36,278
the sunshine
across the wallpaper.
1216
01:01:36,313 --> 01:01:38,487
That just
struck his imagination.
1217
01:01:38,522 --> 01:01:40,524
And as he himself later said,
1218
01:01:40,558 --> 01:01:43,389
"I left and went up on the hill
1219
01:01:43,423 --> 01:01:46,012
and sat on the hill
and looked down on the house
1220
01:01:46,047 --> 01:01:50,672
and started to make sketches
from memory."
1221
01:01:50,707 --> 01:01:52,398
-And I sat up there
1222
01:01:52,432 --> 01:01:56,229
and I began to think
of that kitchen way down below.
1223
01:01:56,264 --> 01:01:59,198
And that's when I began to dream
about what I wanted.
1224
01:01:59,232 --> 01:02:03,133
I wanted you to feel
the enclosure of the building
1225
01:02:03,167 --> 01:02:05,307
and yet the country outside.
1226
01:02:05,342 --> 01:02:08,207
-So, after imagining
the whole concept,
1227
01:02:08,241 --> 01:02:09,277
he came back.
1228
01:02:09,311 --> 01:02:10,588
By this time, Karl had gone.
1229
01:02:10,623 --> 01:02:13,074
And he started
to sketch Mrs. Kuerner
1230
01:02:13,108 --> 01:02:17,078
seated by the windowsill,
and the family dog, Nellie.
1231
01:02:17,112 --> 01:02:20,944
They became part of
this galaxy of the painting
1232
01:02:20,978 --> 01:02:24,257
that he gradually simplified.
1233
01:02:24,292 --> 01:02:26,639
He made dozens and dozens
of drawings
1234
01:02:26,673 --> 01:02:30,022
as he tried to think about,
"What is the key image here?"
1235
01:02:30,056 --> 01:02:33,335
And it boiled down
to just the empty table
1236
01:02:33,370 --> 01:02:35,475
waiting for Karl to come home.
1237
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:38,271
-Karl was off at a farm sale,
1238
01:02:38,306 --> 01:02:42,724
but there was his place, set.
1239
01:02:42,759 --> 01:02:45,037
It's more of a portrait of Karl
1240
01:02:45,071 --> 01:02:49,041
than almost if it had been
him being there, you know?
1241
01:02:49,075 --> 01:02:52,976
Knives were very important
to him, as a man.
1242
01:02:53,010 --> 01:02:55,047
I mean, cutting up animals,
1243
01:02:55,081 --> 01:02:58,153
and he always
carried a knife with him.
1244
01:02:58,188 --> 01:03:03,055
I think there was a fork there,
but that didn't interest me,
1245
01:03:03,089 --> 01:03:06,230
'cause I wanted to express
this real person.
1246
01:03:06,265 --> 01:03:08,992
-That's that sense of imminence
in the painting.
1247
01:03:09,026 --> 01:03:11,580
And then there's this strange
story of the dog --
1248
01:03:11,615 --> 01:03:15,032
you know, the nasty dog.
It was a guard dog.
1249
01:03:15,067 --> 01:03:19,416
-The log outside of the window
with that tooth,
1250
01:03:19,450 --> 01:03:22,143
like the fangs of the dog,
1251
01:03:22,177 --> 01:03:23,696
really became the dog
1252
01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:25,491
so that I could eliminate
the dog.
1253
01:03:25,525 --> 01:03:28,494
I realized that I was
overtelling my story,
1254
01:03:28,528 --> 01:03:32,291
because there were the sharp
teeth of that German shepherd.
1255
01:03:32,325 --> 01:03:34,569
-So, if you're looking
out the window of the painting,
1256
01:03:34,603 --> 01:03:37,537
there's this scary log
staring at you
1257
01:03:37,572 --> 01:03:41,058
that looks like it's about to
come charging into the kitchen.
1258
01:03:41,093 --> 01:03:44,648
That sense of violence
in the very dog
1259
01:03:44,682 --> 01:03:47,237
and in the Karl Kuerner
who's not there anymore
1260
01:03:47,271 --> 01:03:49,446
is part of the restlessness
of this painting,
1261
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,482
because on the one hand,
it's so serene,
1262
01:03:51,517 --> 01:03:53,174
and then,
the more you look at it,
1263
01:03:53,208 --> 01:03:55,452
the more there are
these unsettling aspects
1264
01:03:55,486 --> 01:03:57,316
that can't really be explained.
1265
01:03:57,350 --> 01:03:59,387
And they're part of
that distillation
1266
01:03:59,421 --> 01:04:01,734
of how he came
to make the image.
1267
01:04:01,768 --> 01:04:08,085
♪♪
1268
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,777
-One of things I greatly admire
about Andrew Wyeth
1269
01:04:10,812 --> 01:04:13,746
is his staying on course.
1270
01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:17,094
Andrew was very confident
in his technique.
1271
01:04:17,129 --> 01:04:19,648
He never took outside advice.
1272
01:04:19,683 --> 01:04:23,273
We who are scholars
are beginning to recognize
1273
01:04:23,307 --> 01:04:24,619
that there are even places
1274
01:04:24,653 --> 01:04:28,174
where the curse
never did him any harm.
1275
01:04:28,209 --> 01:04:35,043
♪♪
1276
01:04:35,078 --> 01:04:38,150
-[ Speaking Japanese ]
1277
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,413
-[ Speaking Japanese ]
1278
01:05:00,448 --> 01:05:02,346
[ Applause ]
1279
01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:16,705
♪♪
1280
01:05:16,740 --> 01:05:19,777
-Japanese art historians
and museum curators
1281
01:05:19,812 --> 01:05:23,126
have never really understood
what goes on in this country
1282
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,198
around Andrew Wyeth
and have always honored him
1283
01:05:26,232 --> 01:05:30,478
but also just been
magnificent audiences.
1284
01:05:30,512 --> 01:05:33,308
-[ Speaking Japanese ]
1285
01:05:41,661 --> 01:05:43,629
♪♪
1286
01:06:07,411 --> 01:06:10,380
♪♪
1287
01:06:10,414 --> 01:06:12,347
-The Japanese and their love
1288
01:06:12,382 --> 01:06:15,626
of finding meaning and feeling
in landscapes,
1289
01:06:15,661 --> 01:06:18,905
feel that Andrew has been
theirAmerican painter,
1290
01:06:18,940 --> 01:06:21,425
because that is
the kind of aesthetic
1291
01:06:21,460 --> 01:06:24,601
that they honor and look for
in their artists.
1292
01:06:24,635 --> 01:06:34,611
♪♪
1293
01:06:34,645 --> 01:06:44,621
♪♪
1294
01:06:44,655 --> 01:06:50,282
♪♪
1295
01:06:50,316 --> 01:06:53,457
-[ Speaking Japanese ]
1296
01:08:43,567 --> 01:08:46,467
♪♪
1297
01:09:08,385 --> 01:09:14,702
♪♪
1298
01:09:14,736 --> 01:09:16,531
-American artist Andrew Wyeth,
1299
01:09:16,566 --> 01:09:18,361
who is known
for powerful paintings
1300
01:09:18,395 --> 01:09:20,052
of tenderness and mystery,
1301
01:09:20,086 --> 01:09:22,986
turns out to have kept
the biggest mystery so well.
1302
01:09:23,020 --> 01:09:26,334
-For 15 years, Helga was
the secret occupation
1303
01:09:26,369 --> 01:09:29,337
of America's best-known
living artist.
1304
01:09:29,372 --> 01:09:36,413
♪♪
1305
01:09:36,448 --> 01:09:38,139
-I think it was a scandal
1306
01:09:38,174 --> 01:09:40,866
partly because he'd kept
all of this work secret.
1307
01:09:40,900 --> 01:09:42,523
And everybody was titillated
1308
01:09:42,557 --> 01:09:44,525
by the idea that he had
a whole body of work
1309
01:09:44,559 --> 01:09:46,596
that he was not
telling his wife about,
1310
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:48,736
not telling the rest
of the world about,
1311
01:09:48,770 --> 01:09:50,600
and that there were
a lot of nudes involved
1312
01:09:50,634 --> 01:09:52,015
and a beautiful young woman.
1313
01:09:52,049 --> 01:09:55,467
So that, in itself,
was a kind of soap opera.
1314
01:09:55,501 --> 01:10:00,679
-The day that it broke, we had
"USA Today," "Time," "Newsweek"
1315
01:10:00,713 --> 01:10:04,476
just zeroing in
on the farm here
1316
01:10:04,510 --> 01:10:06,650
and wanting to know
all about this.
1317
01:10:06,685 --> 01:10:10,758
My father said, you know,
"I'm sick of this.
1318
01:10:10,792 --> 01:10:13,450
I'm going to get rid of them.
I'll be back in 15 minutes."
1319
01:10:13,485 --> 01:10:18,938
Well, an hour goes by
and, uh, he doesn't show up.
1320
01:10:18,973 --> 01:10:21,665
And finally, he comes back,
and I say, "Where were you?"
1321
01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:23,874
He says, "I'm gonna be
on the six o'clock news!"
1322
01:10:23,909 --> 01:10:25,945
Couldn't resist.
[ Laughs ]
1323
01:10:25,980 --> 01:10:28,603
-A large body of work
on one subject...
1324
01:10:28,638 --> 01:10:30,087
-Over and over, he drew her.
1325
01:10:30,122 --> 01:10:33,815
-You had asked about
what Chadds Ford was like.
1326
01:10:33,850 --> 01:10:35,921
It wasn't as wild as Maine.
1327
01:10:35,955 --> 01:10:38,820
-The Wyeths have not explained
the mystery.
1328
01:10:38,855 --> 01:10:41,685
-They went out to their island
to get away,
1329
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,654
and there were
helicopters going over.
1330
01:10:44,688 --> 01:10:48,244
♪♪
1331
01:10:48,278 --> 01:10:50,763
-To an outsider looking in,
1332
01:10:50,798 --> 01:10:53,697
there's a story
unbeknownst to them
1333
01:10:53,732 --> 01:10:56,493
that draws them in
like a magnet.
1334
01:10:56,528 --> 01:10:58,530
-Just the daring of this show.
1335
01:10:58,564 --> 01:11:01,809
The explicitness
of some of the images.
1336
01:11:01,843 --> 01:11:03,224
-The show is sensational.
1337
01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:05,847
I don't care
what the critics say.
1338
01:11:05,882 --> 01:11:11,094
-That story was then twisted
into a manipulation.
1339
01:11:11,128 --> 01:11:13,269
-There is endless speculation
1340
01:11:13,303 --> 01:11:16,996
that it was all
a publicity stunt.
1341
01:11:17,031 --> 01:11:20,276
-He was accused of having done
the whole thing
1342
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:22,070
in order to create headlines,
1343
01:11:22,105 --> 01:11:24,590
and that the secret
was not a secret,
1344
01:11:24,625 --> 01:11:26,903
it was a conspiracy.
1345
01:11:28,732 --> 01:11:30,872
-I don't know if I told you
1346
01:11:30,907 --> 01:11:37,603
about him sharing with me
why he did the Helga paintings.
1347
01:11:37,638 --> 01:11:41,124
♪♪
1348
01:11:41,158 --> 01:11:44,748
He said, "I needed
to be away from Betsy
1349
01:11:44,783 --> 01:11:47,855
and have some space."
1350
01:11:47,889 --> 01:11:50,892
-He was so happy
not to ever pay bills,
1351
01:11:50,927 --> 01:11:54,551
not to ever sell prints,
not to do any of that.
1352
01:11:54,586 --> 01:11:56,553
Betsy took care of all of that.
1353
01:11:56,588 --> 01:11:58,762
Betsy wanted to see
whatever he painted that day,
1354
01:11:58,797 --> 01:12:01,903
do the catalogue raisonné,
number it, and so forth.
1355
01:12:01,938 --> 01:12:04,906
-Why did you keep the paintings
a secret?
1356
01:12:04,941 --> 01:12:10,049
-Because I'd been
painting houses, barns,
1357
01:12:10,084 --> 01:12:14,191
and all of a sudden,
I saw this girl,
1358
01:12:14,226 --> 01:12:16,711
and I said, "My God,
if I could get her to pose,
1359
01:12:16,746 --> 01:12:20,577
she personifies
everything I feel.
1360
01:12:20,612 --> 01:12:21,923
And that's it.
1361
01:12:21,958 --> 01:12:24,201
I'm not going to tell anyone
about this.
1362
01:12:24,236 --> 01:12:27,550
I'm just going to paint it."
1363
01:12:27,584 --> 01:12:30,622
-He wanted to fulfill his soul.
1364
01:12:30,656 --> 01:12:33,210
He needed just to do that
for himself.
1365
01:12:33,245 --> 01:12:35,937
He was always producing.
No artist wants
1366
01:12:35,972 --> 01:12:38,664
to be taken for granted
that you produce --
1367
01:12:38,699 --> 01:12:40,770
produce for the sake
of producing.
1368
01:12:40,804 --> 01:12:43,359
You'll never, never produce
anything good
1369
01:12:43,393 --> 01:12:47,086
if you don't have something
you paint for yourself.
1370
01:12:47,121 --> 01:12:57,096
♪♪
1371
01:12:57,131 --> 01:13:04,794
♪♪
1372
01:13:04,828 --> 01:13:07,797
-When word of the Helga
collection came out,
1373
01:13:07,831 --> 01:13:12,871
that was really shocking
to her.
1374
01:13:12,905 --> 01:13:15,080
She looked at me,
and she said, "Did you know?"
1375
01:13:15,114 --> 01:13:17,254
And I said, "No.
I had no idea."
1376
01:13:17,289 --> 01:13:19,843
♪♪
1377
01:13:19,878 --> 01:13:23,709
200 drawings and watercolors.
1378
01:13:23,744 --> 01:13:26,988
The rest were framed temperas.
1379
01:13:27,023 --> 01:13:30,716
I kept seeing these
and looking at her,
1380
01:13:30,751 --> 01:13:33,063
and looking at her
looking at the paintings,
1381
01:13:33,098 --> 01:13:35,859
and thinking,
"What is she thinking?
1382
01:13:35,894 --> 01:13:39,345
How can she separate her emotion
1383
01:13:39,380 --> 01:13:44,730
from the real appreciation
of the paintings?"
1384
01:13:44,765 --> 01:13:47,630
-It unsettled her,
the fact that I never told her.
1385
01:13:47,664 --> 01:13:49,839
And it still bothers her.
1386
01:13:49,873 --> 01:13:53,049
But she realizes that
she's living with a man
1387
01:13:53,083 --> 01:13:56,190
that's wrapped up
in my painting.
1388
01:13:56,224 --> 01:14:00,712
-Meanwhile, Helga felt betrayed,
1389
01:14:00,746 --> 01:14:05,337
because he promised her
that he would not let them out.
1390
01:14:05,371 --> 01:14:08,167
-How prepared can you get?
1391
01:14:08,202 --> 01:14:10,411
You don't know what's
going to happen, you know?
1392
01:14:10,446 --> 01:14:13,345
I was never made for the public.
1393
01:14:13,379 --> 01:14:15,865
I really wasn't.
1394
01:14:15,899 --> 01:14:19,144
♪♪
1395
01:14:19,178 --> 01:14:22,181
-So, you have two very
different personalities.
1396
01:14:22,216 --> 01:14:25,115
Betsy was extremely controlling.
1397
01:14:25,150 --> 01:14:27,946
Helga was extremely adaptable.
1398
01:14:27,980 --> 01:14:32,468
If he wanted to go down
the ravine in the winter --
1399
01:14:32,502 --> 01:14:35,712
One time he told me she carried
a dead deer up a hill.
1400
01:14:35,747 --> 01:14:37,921
So she would just do
whatever he said.
1401
01:14:37,956 --> 01:14:40,234
Betsy would argue.
1402
01:14:40,268 --> 01:14:43,375
-He took what I had to say,
and I took what he had to say.
1403
01:14:43,409 --> 01:14:45,377
It's a mutual thing.
1404
01:14:45,411 --> 01:14:49,070
You sense it, what he needs.
1405
01:14:49,105 --> 01:14:54,697
There was no question about it.
You just did it naturally.
1406
01:14:54,731 --> 01:14:57,078
That's a gift.
1407
01:14:57,113 --> 01:15:00,944
-It was something
that I was doing,
1408
01:15:00,979 --> 01:15:04,983
and my imagination --
I painted every minute.
1409
01:15:05,017 --> 01:15:09,746
♪♪
1410
01:15:09,781 --> 01:15:12,508
-Being able to paint Helga
gave him
1411
01:15:12,542 --> 01:15:16,857
all of this magnificent energy
he never had before.
1412
01:15:16,891 --> 01:15:19,376
He was actually able
to double the work.
1413
01:15:19,411 --> 01:15:22,069
-I was a force.
1414
01:15:22,103 --> 01:15:24,796
Don't you see?
I gave him confidence.
1415
01:15:27,074 --> 01:15:29,248
I didn't have any doubts.
1416
01:15:29,283 --> 01:15:32,079
-Many of the things
he was doing concurrently
1417
01:15:32,113 --> 01:15:35,289
are related
to these Helga works.
1418
01:15:35,323 --> 01:15:41,364
♪♪
1419
01:15:41,398 --> 01:15:44,850
-Betsy -- she has
a sense of order.
1420
01:15:44,885 --> 01:15:47,853
She can't stand chaos.
1421
01:15:47,888 --> 01:15:51,270
You have a collection
over 15 years,
1422
01:15:51,305 --> 01:15:54,032
and she always wants to know
1423
01:15:54,066 --> 01:15:56,310
what came first,
second, third, fourth.
1424
01:15:56,344 --> 01:15:59,209
What helped her deal
with this whole thing
1425
01:15:59,244 --> 01:16:01,798
was to put everything in order.
1426
01:16:01,833 --> 01:16:04,560
And that was the only thing
that grounded her.
1427
01:16:04,594 --> 01:16:10,048
She was so big
to rise above it
1428
01:16:10,082 --> 01:16:13,499
and really appreciate the works
for what they were.
1429
01:16:13,534 --> 01:16:18,021
♪♪
1430
01:16:18,056 --> 01:16:19,816
-The Helga pictures have
1431
01:16:19,851 --> 01:16:21,818
some extraordinary,
beautiful paintings.
1432
01:16:21,853 --> 01:16:24,441
They are not only fabulous,
1433
01:16:24,476 --> 01:16:28,066
in terms of their technique
and the quality of the painting,
1434
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,309
but the composition,
the subject matter,
1435
01:16:30,344 --> 01:16:32,380
they are really
striking pictures.
1436
01:16:32,415 --> 01:16:34,348
So I think they're some
of his finest paintings.
1437
01:16:34,382 --> 01:16:36,592
And now that we're
at a distance --
1438
01:16:36,626 --> 01:16:39,215
20 years, 25 years away --
I think we can see
1439
01:16:39,249 --> 01:16:41,044
the excellence
in these paintings.
1440
01:16:41,079 --> 01:16:42,908
There's still, of course,
1441
01:16:42,943 --> 01:16:45,531
an erotic story
that's unavoidable.
1442
01:16:45,566 --> 01:16:47,499
That's potent in these pictures.
1443
01:16:47,533 --> 01:16:50,606
But I think we can also see them
as great paintings.
1444
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,368
-I think every painting
has a mystery to it
1445
01:16:54,402 --> 01:16:57,923
that only the artist
and the subject know...
1446
01:16:57,958 --> 01:17:01,271
that will never be shared
in reality.
1447
01:17:03,101 --> 01:17:08,416
-We danced and we laughed
at the whole world together.
1448
01:17:08,451 --> 01:17:13,111
I think he rediscovered
the whole world in himself.
1449
01:17:13,145 --> 01:17:23,121
♪♪
1450
01:17:23,155 --> 01:17:33,131
♪♪
1451
01:17:33,165 --> 01:17:35,547
-When you know something
and feel it
1452
01:17:35,581 --> 01:17:38,999
and have a love for it,
my God, do it.
1453
01:17:39,033 --> 01:17:41,104
Don't let it go by.
1454
01:17:41,139 --> 01:17:45,108
♪♪
1455
01:17:45,143 --> 01:17:47,179
-Andrew Wyeth
got up in the morning
1456
01:17:47,214 --> 01:17:49,319
and went out and made drawings.
1457
01:17:51,218 --> 01:17:52,529
[ Chuckles ]
1458
01:17:52,564 --> 01:17:54,393
♪♪
1459
01:17:54,428 --> 01:18:01,228
He spent the entire day walking,
exploring, sketching, thinking.
1460
01:18:01,262 --> 01:18:05,888
I think he was an artist
24 hours a day.
1461
01:18:05,922 --> 01:18:07,924
-It's like
you're being a child again.
1462
01:18:07,959 --> 01:18:11,997
You can do what you want,
and you can do what you love.
1463
01:18:12,722 --> 01:18:16,484
How many people in life
get to do what they love to do?
1464
01:18:16,519 --> 01:18:19,108
-I've never met anyone else
1465
01:18:19,142 --> 01:18:22,042
that was alive in the world
the way he was.
1466
01:18:22,076 --> 01:18:25,666
-He painted up until the end.
1467
01:18:25,701 --> 01:18:28,220
♪♪
1468
01:18:28,255 --> 01:18:30,533
Oh, gosh.
1469
01:18:30,567 --> 01:18:34,433
when he was dying in bed,
in the upper bedroom,
1470
01:18:34,468 --> 01:18:36,953
someone said, "Come here, look."
1471
01:18:36,988 --> 01:18:41,095
And he was asleep,
but his hand...
1472
01:18:41,130 --> 01:18:45,617
♪♪
1473
01:18:45,651 --> 01:18:48,206
-He was drawing, in the dream.
1474
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,210
♪♪
1475
01:18:52,244 --> 01:18:55,592
-His final words to me,
when we were saying goodbye
1476
01:18:55,627 --> 01:18:58,147
and I leaned down
and he pulled me in
1477
01:18:58,181 --> 01:19:00,011
and looked at me
right in the eye
1478
01:19:00,045 --> 01:19:02,082
and said, "Give them hell."
1479
01:19:02,116 --> 01:19:08,295
-I'm so glad he lived past 2000,
because it was a sea change.
1480
01:19:08,329 --> 01:19:11,470
And they had a "Rediscovering
Andrew Wyeth" session
1481
01:19:11,505 --> 01:19:14,542
at the big national convention
of art historians.
1482
01:19:14,577 --> 01:19:17,028
And the young people threw aside
1483
01:19:17,062 --> 01:19:20,100
all the horrible criticism
of their seniors,
1484
01:19:20,134 --> 01:19:22,378
rebelled,
and looked at Andrew Wyeth.
1485
01:19:22,412 --> 01:19:25,036
He got to participate
in nine years of that,
1486
01:19:25,070 --> 01:19:27,521
of hearing people
look at him anew.
1487
01:19:27,555 --> 01:19:30,041
♪♪
1488
01:19:30,075 --> 01:19:33,044
-We're in the gallery
of the exhibition
1489
01:19:33,078 --> 01:19:34,804
"Andrew Wyeth In Retrospect,"
1490
01:19:34,839 --> 01:19:37,220
at the Brandywine River
Museum of Art.
1491
01:19:37,255 --> 01:19:41,328
This exhibition being seen here
and on the West Coast
1492
01:19:41,362 --> 01:19:46,643
surveys seven decades of one of
America's most iconic artists.
1493
01:19:46,678 --> 01:19:49,267
We really see this exhibition
1494
01:19:49,301 --> 01:19:52,753
as a chance to reintroduce
Andrew Wyeth
1495
01:19:52,788 --> 01:19:55,514
to a generation of museumgoers,
1496
01:19:55,549 --> 01:19:57,793
and to the people
that already know him,
1497
01:19:57,827 --> 01:20:00,450
really help them dig deeper
1498
01:20:00,485 --> 01:20:03,384
into this remarkable artist's
work.
1499
01:20:03,419 --> 01:20:07,630
-I just wish now
that he could see the reviews
1500
01:20:07,664 --> 01:20:10,426
coming in for the Seattle show
1501
01:20:10,460 --> 01:20:14,292
and the Brandywine
"In Retrospect" show.
1502
01:20:14,326 --> 01:20:16,535
Because they're amazing.
1503
01:20:16,570 --> 01:20:18,572
-I think we've moved beyond
1504
01:20:18,606 --> 01:20:22,300
the easy opposition
of realism and abstraction
1505
01:20:22,334 --> 01:20:25,855
which I think was the story
back in the 1960s.
1506
01:20:25,890 --> 01:20:28,202
And I think it's now
possible to see him
1507
01:20:28,237 --> 01:20:30,722
as just a different way
of being modern.
1508
01:20:30,756 --> 01:20:36,555
♪♪
1509
01:20:36,590 --> 01:20:39,455
-He painted his own backyard.
1510
01:20:39,489 --> 01:20:43,700
When you paint what you know
and what you know with truth,
1511
01:20:43,735 --> 01:20:46,669
that love is universal.
1512
01:20:46,703 --> 01:20:50,086
-Wyeth's pictures
always capture people.
1513
01:20:50,121 --> 01:20:54,332
They stare at them
and just roam around in them.
1514
01:20:54,366 --> 01:20:57,128
When we did the exhibition
at the museum,
1515
01:20:57,162 --> 01:20:59,406
it actually was not unusual
to find people in tears
1516
01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:00,890
in front of the paintings,
1517
01:21:00,925 --> 01:21:04,825
and paintings
that weren't overtly sad.
1518
01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:07,759
It opened up memories in people,
1519
01:21:07,793 --> 01:21:10,486
and I think that's one
of the powers in his work,
1520
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,869
is that the emotion
that he banks into the picture
1521
01:21:13,903 --> 01:21:17,493
allows people to unlock
emotion of their own.
1522
01:21:17,527 --> 01:21:21,911
♪♪
1523
01:21:21,946 --> 01:21:26,295
-If you look at the light
on the corner of the wall
1524
01:21:26,329 --> 01:21:30,333
in the window
in "Groundhog Day,"
1525
01:21:30,368 --> 01:21:34,268
there is nothing, anywhere,
written
1526
01:21:34,303 --> 01:21:37,547
in the history of art,
about art --
1527
01:21:37,582 --> 01:21:40,412
no words compare to what he did.
1528
01:21:40,447 --> 01:21:44,554
♪♪
1529
01:21:44,589 --> 01:21:49,663
That sunlight traveled
eight minutes from the sun,
1530
01:21:49,697 --> 01:21:52,873
came through the atmosphere,
1531
01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:54,461
through that window,
1532
01:21:54,495 --> 01:21:57,291
and struck the side
of that window frame
1533
01:21:57,326 --> 01:21:59,155
and that wall.
1534
01:21:59,190 --> 01:22:01,675
♪♪
1535
01:22:01,709 --> 01:22:04,264
And he got it.
1536
01:22:04,298 --> 01:22:11,616
♪♪
1537
01:22:11,650 --> 01:22:15,620
-But you see how important
it is to be in a surrounding,
1538
01:22:15,654 --> 01:22:19,417
and breathe it,
and then it happens...
1539
01:22:19,451 --> 01:22:21,246
if you're lucky,
1540
01:22:21,281 --> 01:22:24,249
and you're perceptive enough
to catch it.
1541
01:22:24,284 --> 01:22:26,424
♪♪
1542
01:22:26,458 --> 01:22:29,116
I'm really painting my own life.
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