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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:45,963 --> 00:00:47,422 We're gonna have a good time. 2 00:00:47,631 --> 00:00:48,631 J“ oh, yeah j“ 3 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:51,218 j“ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah j“ 4 00:00:59,142 --> 00:01:04,731 Ignition sequence starts, four, three, two, one. 5 00:01:08,527 --> 00:01:10,696 Power transfer is complete. 6 00:01:20,581 --> 00:01:22,958 I didn't watch Star Trek: The original series, 7 00:01:23,166 --> 00:01:24,626 in the first season before I was on. 8 00:01:25,127 --> 00:01:26,967 I mean, I took one look at the styrofoam rocks, 9 00:01:27,004 --> 00:01:29,084 and I said, "forget it. I'm not going to watch this." 10 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:32,610 It means, “can you speak klingon?" 11 00:01:32,634 --> 00:01:33,903 You have to give the right answer. 12 00:01:33,927 --> 00:01:35,280 Otherwise, there's dire consequences. 13 00:01:35,304 --> 00:01:36,388 I dance at powwows, 14 00:01:36,597 --> 00:01:39,266 and I'm into the Indian way of life and things, 15 00:01:39,474 --> 00:01:40,726 and I'm also a trekker. 16 00:01:40,934 --> 00:01:43,061 It's the greatest feeling in the world, 17 00:01:43,687 --> 00:01:48,609 and I do it about 30, to 35, to 40 times a year. 18 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:53,113 To walk out onstage and to feel that love 19 00:01:53,322 --> 00:01:57,784 that just pours right out at you, and it's just fans. 20 00:01:57,993 --> 00:02:01,413 - I've been a fan, I grew up with it. - So I couldn't help but be a fan. 21 00:02:01,872 --> 00:02:05,417 This is the andorian ambassador edvaark, 22 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:08,503 and I am guard number twe... Number 48, 23 00:02:08,712 --> 00:02:11,131 - and this is guard number 28. - That's right. 24 00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:13,300 You have to understand that... that, uh, 25 00:02:14,509 --> 00:02:17,846 even now, I still have... 26 00:02:18,055 --> 00:02:19,598 I still have an ongoing process 27 00:02:19,806 --> 00:02:22,476 of trying to grasp all of this, even now. 28 00:02:22,726 --> 00:02:24,436 Uh, name's Douglas marcks. 29 00:02:24,645 --> 00:02:26,271 Um, and I live in Portland. 30 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,857 I've been a fan of Star Trek for a number of years. 31 00:02:29,066 --> 00:02:32,277 I mean, I actually started watching it back in the '605. 32 00:02:32,486 --> 00:02:34,130 You know, I've been in this for seven years now, 33 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:35,947 and it's starting to become normal. 34 00:02:52,172 --> 00:02:54,216 Thank you, wow. 35 00:02:55,676 --> 00:02:57,177 Thank you all for coming. 36 00:02:58,887 --> 00:02:59,930 Star Trek goes country. 37 00:03:18,407 --> 00:03:20,826 In 1987, I auditioned for a show called 38 00:03:21,034 --> 00:03:22,703 Star Trek: The next generation. 39 00:03:22,911 --> 00:03:25,038 Now, I must admit that I went to this audition 40 00:03:25,247 --> 00:03:26,415 with some hesitation. 41 00:03:26,623 --> 00:03:28,166 I mean, after all, it was a rehash 42 00:03:28,375 --> 00:03:31,420 of a cult-status Sci-Fi series, 43 00:03:32,212 --> 00:03:33,672 and it had a profound effect 44 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,007 on the original cast members' careers. 45 00:03:36,216 --> 00:03:39,678 But since I was unknown, unemployed, 46 00:03:39,886 --> 00:03:42,889 and unclear as to where any of this was headed, 47 00:03:43,682 --> 00:03:44,682 I went. 48 00:03:44,850 --> 00:03:47,686 What I didn't know was that I was becoming 49 00:03:47,894 --> 00:03:51,982 part of something much larger than just a new TV series. 50 00:03:52,441 --> 00:03:54,818 I was becoming part of a phenomenon. 51 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:12,210 My name is John paladin. The klingon name is kruge. 52 00:04:12,419 --> 00:04:15,547 I'm harminder pal from Glasgow, Scotland. 53 00:04:15,756 --> 00:04:17,632 My name is, um, is... 54 00:04:17,841 --> 00:04:18,884 Who am I? 55 00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:20,292 You're a lieutenant commander. 56 00:04:20,343 --> 00:04:21,887 I'm lieutenant commander Horatio, 57 00:04:22,095 --> 00:04:25,474 and from the starship battle queen. 58 00:04:25,682 --> 00:04:28,143 My name's David silverman, I'm from central New Jersey. 59 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:29,728 - Canton, Ohio. - San Diego. 60 00:04:29,936 --> 00:04:31,296 - Virginia. - Melbourne, Australia. 61 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,080 - Biloxi, Mississippi. - Berlin, Germany. 62 00:04:33,273 --> 00:04:36,985 I have fans that write me from Germany, from Italy, 63 00:04:37,194 --> 00:04:39,112 from Australia, from england. 64 00:04:39,321 --> 00:04:41,239 I've been to conventions in all those places. 65 00:04:41,448 --> 00:04:42,928 How many conventions have you been to? 66 00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:45,327 Probably close to 50 or 60. 67 00:04:45,535 --> 00:04:46,787 - Really? - Yeah. 68 00:04:46,995 --> 00:04:49,080 I mean, like I said, you got to have something to do. 69 00:04:49,289 --> 00:04:50,749 This is my third convention. 70 00:04:50,957 --> 00:04:52,459 We've been to probably 20 or 30 71 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:53,752 - or more. - 20 to 30. 72 00:04:54,002 --> 00:04:55,420 I lost count, you know? 73 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:58,381 I've been doing this since 1969, so it's, uh, 74 00:04:58,590 --> 00:05:02,928 almost hate to admit, this is my 366th convention this weekend. 75 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:06,264 I have attended, over the course of about eight years, 76 00:05:06,473 --> 00:05:08,350 28 conventions. 77 00:05:08,558 --> 00:05:10,435 I'm gonna be spending this day in preparation 78 00:05:10,644 --> 00:05:14,064 to go the Pasadena Star Trek, Babylon 5 convention. 79 00:05:14,523 --> 00:05:18,443 I'm going right now to pick up my new, tailor-made 80 00:05:18,652 --> 00:05:21,905 Star Trek: First contact uniform to wear tomorrow. 81 00:05:23,490 --> 00:05:24,950 - Hey, Travis. - Hey, Gabriel. 82 00:05:25,158 --> 00:05:26,201 How you doing? Come on in. 83 00:05:26,409 --> 00:05:28,578 - Uh, so Linda dropped it off? - Yes, she did. 84 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:30,330 This is the uniform to be featured 85 00:05:30,539 --> 00:05:31,998 in Star Trek: First contact. 86 00:05:32,249 --> 00:05:35,126 Linda Thuringer, our club's captain and garak impersonator, 87 00:05:35,335 --> 00:05:36,837 really outdid herself here, 88 00:05:37,045 --> 00:05:38,797 except I do have a couple of minor quibbles, 89 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:40,549 like, uh, the red stripe here. 90 00:05:40,757 --> 00:05:41,800 In the actual movie, 91 00:05:42,008 --> 00:05:43,568 it's gonna be about half this thickness, 92 00:05:43,677 --> 00:05:44,917 but she can change that easily. 93 00:05:45,011 --> 00:05:48,515 And the lines running across here 94 00:05:48,723 --> 00:05:51,226 are more prominent in the actual versions, 95 00:05:51,434 --> 00:05:53,634 but then again, she can just do some topstitching there. 96 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:55,331 She wanted to take the legs down a bit. 97 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:56,355 I don't see why. 98 00:05:56,523 --> 00:05:58,650 But overall, fantastic. 99 00:05:58,859 --> 00:06:00,694 This is gonna be your car, Gabriel? 100 00:06:00,902 --> 00:06:02,863 I hope so, because I'm 14. 101 00:06:03,071 --> 00:06:04,322 I'll be 15 in June. 102 00:06:04,531 --> 00:06:06,384 Another year after that, I'll be getting my license. 103 00:06:06,408 --> 00:06:07,701 It's the roddenberry. 104 00:06:07,909 --> 00:06:08,909 I wish it could fly. 105 00:06:09,077 --> 00:06:11,180 I'm ready to go to another planet, I'll tell you that much. 106 00:06:11,204 --> 00:06:13,498 Obviously, someone never grew out of the 19605. 107 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:16,918 Yeah, I spent a lot of time in vans, that's for sure. 108 00:06:17,127 --> 00:06:19,045 We're gonna put a laser beam on the front 109 00:06:19,254 --> 00:06:20,690 so when we're driving on a foggy day, 110 00:06:20,714 --> 00:06:22,674 we can shoot, like, a, 1,000-foot beam. 111 00:06:30,307 --> 00:06:31,933 My name is it. Commander Barbara Adams. 112 00:06:32,142 --> 00:06:34,019 I'm commanding officer of the USS Artemis, 113 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:37,063 which is the little rock unit of the federation alliance. 114 00:06:37,272 --> 00:06:39,274 I'm here at the Sci-Fi convention in Boston, 115 00:06:39,482 --> 00:06:41,192 where federation alliance 116 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:43,612 has brought some of our things up here. 117 00:06:43,820 --> 00:06:45,363 I've come because a lot of people 118 00:06:45,572 --> 00:06:47,949 have shown a lot of interest in what I did 119 00:06:48,158 --> 00:06:50,076 in going to the trial in my uniform. 120 00:06:50,744 --> 00:06:53,538 I was selected, um, summoned for the jury 121 00:06:53,747 --> 00:06:56,875 for the whitewater trial in little rock, Arkansas. 122 00:06:57,250 --> 00:06:58,585 We've had a lot of curious people 123 00:06:58,793 --> 00:07:00,086 asking about the organization 124 00:07:00,295 --> 00:07:02,547 and also while looking into my drawings, 125 00:07:02,756 --> 00:07:04,049 which I do as sort of a hobby. 126 00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:07,552 I studied graphic design and I enjoy drawing, uh, 127 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:10,430 and I also enjoy drawing the Star Trek people. 128 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:13,016 One of our charters in the federation alliance 129 00:07:13,224 --> 00:07:15,268 is to perform community service, 130 00:07:15,477 --> 00:07:16,978 and as commanding officer, 131 00:07:17,187 --> 00:07:19,731 I'm the role model for my crew, 132 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:22,567 and so I felt it was necessary 133 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:25,654 and a good decision for me to wear my uniform. 134 00:07:26,029 --> 00:07:27,029 For more than a week, 135 00:07:27,197 --> 00:07:29,574 everybody's seen the picture of Barbara Adams... 136 00:07:29,783 --> 00:07:30,783 And each morning, 137 00:07:30,951 --> 00:07:32,786 there seemed to be more and more reporters 138 00:07:33,203 --> 00:07:34,483 because they were waiting to see 139 00:07:34,579 --> 00:07:36,019 if I was going to come in my uniform, 140 00:07:36,122 --> 00:07:38,166 and it got to the point where there was just a wall 141 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:40,251 of cameras, tripods, reporters, 142 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:42,741 and I would literally have to walk all the way around them 143 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:44,965 just to get to the door because they would not move. 144 00:07:45,215 --> 00:07:46,675 It just got ridiculous. 145 00:07:46,883 --> 00:07:48,259 My brother had a picture of her 146 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,011 on our refrigerator for two months 147 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:52,514 walking out of the courtroom in Arkansas. 148 00:07:52,722 --> 00:07:54,533 And one of the newspapers had reported 149 00:07:54,557 --> 00:07:56,397 that every day, I would walk past the reporters 150 00:07:56,518 --> 00:07:58,228 with a vulcan-like stoicism. 151 00:07:58,895 --> 00:08:00,146 Wow! 152 00:08:00,355 --> 00:08:02,458 So, they don't know how close they actually hit the Mark, 153 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:04,693 because usually, before all this brewed up, 154 00:08:04,901 --> 00:08:06,461 I would always come to these conventions 155 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:08,822 and our appearances as a vulcan. 156 00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:12,826 There was a bus driver that I 'd already met. 157 00:08:13,034 --> 00:08:14,637 He kept asking me, "what are you gonna do? 158 00:08:14,661 --> 00:08:16,287 Why do you keep wearing the uniform? 159 00:08:16,496 --> 00:08:17,496 What are you gonna do 160 00:08:17,664 --> 00:08:19,224 if the president comes down to testify?" 161 00:08:19,833 --> 00:08:21,793 And I said, "I'll wear my uniform." 162 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:23,187 He said, "but it's the president 163 00:08:23,211 --> 00:08:24,796 of the United States!" 164 00:08:25,005 --> 00:08:26,506 "I'll wear my uniform." 165 00:08:26,715 --> 00:08:28,008 We came to a stoplight. 166 00:08:28,216 --> 00:08:30,176 He turned around and he looked at me, and he said, 167 00:08:30,343 --> 00:08:32,512 "you are a brave woman." 168 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:37,308 Every day, I wear my communicator badge, 169 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:38,977 my rank pips, and my tricorder. 170 00:08:40,729 --> 00:08:42,313 To me, as being an officer 171 00:08:42,522 --> 00:08:44,202 in the federation alliance, 24 hours a day, 172 00:08:44,357 --> 00:08:45,692 even when I'm not in uniform, 173 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:48,194 I still want that known that I'm at heart 174 00:08:48,403 --> 00:08:49,403 a starfleet officer. 175 00:08:49,571 --> 00:08:51,090 I used to read about her in the newspaper, 176 00:08:51,114 --> 00:08:52,657 and I saw her, and I got her autograph. 177 00:08:52,866 --> 00:08:55,201 Basically, the philosophy behind Star Trek 178 00:08:55,410 --> 00:08:58,872 that she is so... in... Um, promoting, 179 00:09:00,665 --> 00:09:03,418 is the philosophy behind an honest juror. 180 00:09:03,668 --> 00:09:06,171 That's what you need on a jury is an open-minded person. 181 00:09:06,379 --> 00:09:07,857 Based on the ideals of Star Trek, yeah, 182 00:09:07,881 --> 00:09:08,921 I think she'd be an asset. 183 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:11,384 This is what she wants to do. This is america. 184 00:09:11,593 --> 00:09:13,593 I mean, we should be able to do what we want to do. 185 00:09:13,762 --> 00:09:16,014 You know, look how we wanna look, say what we wanna say. 186 00:09:16,222 --> 00:09:19,100 I think she's a pretty neat lady to have the guts to, um, 187 00:09:19,309 --> 00:09:20,518 kind of be herself, 188 00:09:20,727 --> 00:09:23,021 even on an important thing like being a juror. 189 00:09:23,271 --> 00:09:24,939 You can put on a uniform 190 00:09:25,231 --> 00:09:27,692 for football year-round, nobody cares. 191 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:29,736 Basketball year-round, nobody cares. 192 00:09:29,944 --> 00:09:31,029 Put on a Star Trek uniform, 193 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:33,031 people get a case of the giggles. 194 00:09:33,406 --> 00:09:35,283 I don't want my officers to ever feel ashamed 195 00:09:35,492 --> 00:09:36,493 to wear their uniform. 196 00:09:37,744 --> 00:09:42,373 And so, I went to a civic duty. 197 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,209 What we do is community service. 198 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:45,919 I was performing my civic duty. 199 00:09:46,127 --> 00:09:47,378 I wore my uniform, 200 00:09:47,587 --> 00:09:50,006 just as any other officer in the military would wear theirs. 201 00:09:51,758 --> 00:09:52,801 I came to meet the stars. 202 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:54,729 I like to see a different side of the stars, 203 00:09:54,844 --> 00:09:55,844 the personal side. 204 00:09:56,096 --> 00:09:57,305 While I was in Florida, 205 00:09:57,514 --> 00:10:00,391 Ruth Ann presented me with this belt buckle 206 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:03,895 on my 138th birthday. 207 00:10:08,691 --> 00:10:11,236 Now, now then, everything... 208 00:10:11,444 --> 00:10:13,613 Ev... every time I see someone, 209 00:10:14,197 --> 00:10:17,742 they say, you know, "you look so much younger in person." 210 00:10:20,537 --> 00:10:27,502 The first one that I did, I think was around '72. 211 00:10:28,461 --> 00:10:32,423 Um, I got a call to come to New York. 212 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:34,843 They had done one convention first 213 00:10:35,051 --> 00:10:37,887 and I think it wasn't really a convention. 214 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:41,599 They got together with about 35 or 40 or 50, 215 00:10:41,808 --> 00:10:44,185 the way I heard the story, 216 00:10:44,811 --> 00:10:47,438 of fans of Star Trek that just wanted to get together 217 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:49,232 and talk about the show, which they did. 218 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:51,442 And they said, "you know, 219 00:10:51,943 --> 00:10:54,237 why don't we put our money together 220 00:10:54,988 --> 00:10:57,448 and rent a hotel ballroom." 221 00:10:57,657 --> 00:10:59,617 "And talk about our mutual interest 222 00:10:59,826 --> 00:11:01,953 and show each other what we have collected so far 223 00:11:02,162 --> 00:11:05,123 in the way of tapes or paraphernalia or photographs." 224 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:09,002 "If we could get 300 people to attend, 225 00:11:09,210 --> 00:11:11,921 we could... we could pay for it." 226 00:11:12,255 --> 00:11:16,676 And I thought, "they're inviting me to New York?" 227 00:11:16,926 --> 00:11:19,345 They said they're willing to pay expenses 228 00:11:19,554 --> 00:11:22,140 and, you know, fly me there and put me up in a hotel. 229 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:23,975 Ithoughh "these people are foolish." 230 00:11:24,267 --> 00:11:27,979 And, there was something like, I think there were around 231 00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:30,565 three or 4,000 people showed up, 232 00:11:31,691 --> 00:11:33,985 and it was absolutely wild then. 233 00:11:34,194 --> 00:11:36,529 They had to call the fire department into the hotel 234 00:11:36,738 --> 00:11:38,406 to let them in in increments. 235 00:11:38,615 --> 00:11:40,491 Everything came to a dead stop. 236 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:42,340 It was... it was jam-packed with humanity. 237 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:44,037 The revolving doors couldn't revolve. 238 00:11:44,245 --> 00:11:46,497 The escalators refused to operate anymore. 239 00:11:46,706 --> 00:11:48,208 The elevators stopped working. 240 00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:52,337 And the din out there indicated 241 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:54,047 it was more than 30 people. 242 00:11:54,255 --> 00:11:56,424 The woman went onstage and introduced me, 243 00:11:56,633 --> 00:11:57,884 and I stepped out, 244 00:11:58,092 --> 00:12:01,221 and the place exploded in applause. 245 00:12:01,429 --> 00:12:02,573 And then they were 246 00:12:02,597 --> 00:12:03,932 hanging out of the balcony. 247 00:12:04,140 --> 00:12:07,227 It was like a bunch of overaged Beatles for us, 248 00:12:07,435 --> 00:12:09,312 you know, me being there. 249 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,040 There was hardly a chance to speak 250 00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:13,524 because every word created a roar. 251 00:12:13,733 --> 00:12:15,711 Every time somebody opened their mouths to say hello, 252 00:12:15,735 --> 00:12:16,735 it created a roar, 253 00:12:16,903 --> 00:12:19,072 a wall of emotional sound hit you. 254 00:12:20,907 --> 00:12:23,201 And we were all kind of taken aback 255 00:12:23,409 --> 00:12:26,037 and, uh and moved and touched by it 256 00:12:26,246 --> 00:12:28,081 because it was this tremendous affection, 257 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:29,666 this tremendous affection. 258 00:12:29,874 --> 00:12:33,044 And now there is a Star Trek convention... 259 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:36,214 There are Star Trek conventions 260 00:12:36,422 --> 00:12:39,759 somewhere every weekend all over the world. 261 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:54,232 - Hi there. 262 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,080 Could I have a schedule, please? 263 00:12:59,112 --> 00:13:00,632 Ah, majel. Definitely got to see majel. 264 00:13:00,780 --> 00:13:02,049 She's onstage right now. 265 00:13:02,073 --> 00:13:03,408 She's on the stage now? Ooh. 266 00:13:03,616 --> 00:13:04,909 Think you're going to love it. 267 00:13:05,118 --> 00:13:07,161 It was gene's story and gene's script, 268 00:13:07,370 --> 00:13:08,663 and it was gene's pilot. 269 00:13:08,871 --> 00:13:09,871 What time is the auction? 270 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,125 The auction is 2:20 this afternoon. 271 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:13,333 Oh, there it is. 272 00:13:13,501 --> 00:13:17,380 Okay, this was worn by John colicos in which episode? 273 00:13:17,964 --> 00:13:19,799 - "Blood oath." - "Blood oath." 274 00:13:20,049 --> 00:13:22,635 And this is the turtle, as they call it. 275 00:13:22,844 --> 00:13:24,762 Michael dorn calls it the great turtle. 276 00:13:25,013 --> 00:13:27,974 "Turtle head." There's "speed bumps." 277 00:13:28,433 --> 00:13:32,687 Uh, there's, whoopi goldberg says "old intestine head." 278 00:13:32,895 --> 00:13:36,983 And, the other one I heard is "rocky mountains." 279 00:13:37,191 --> 00:13:38,693 That's the... That's the latest one. 280 00:13:38,901 --> 00:13:40,653 Here is the opening bid for this. 281 00:13:40,862 --> 00:13:41,946 $500. 282 00:13:44,824 --> 00:13:46,159 $500. 283 00:13:46,367 --> 00:13:50,538 We've got a $500 bid, and it's there to a klingon. 284 00:13:50,747 --> 00:13:51,789 I'll go 550. 285 00:13:51,998 --> 00:13:53,624 - 550. - Six. 286 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:55,376 - Six, 600. - Six. 287 00:13:55,585 --> 00:13:58,212 600. Do I hear 650? 288 00:13:58,421 --> 00:13:59,421 - 650. - 650. 289 00:13:59,589 --> 00:14:00,589 1,000! 290 00:14:00,757 --> 00:14:01,757 $1,000! 291 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:05,553 $1,000. 292 00:14:07,472 --> 00:14:08,473 1,100. 293 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:10,308 $1,100. 294 00:14:10,516 --> 00:14:11,642 $1,200! 295 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:13,895 What? 1,200? 296 00:14:14,103 --> 00:14:15,646 - Yeah. - 1,200? 297 00:14:15,855 --> 00:14:18,691 Okay, $1,200. $1,200. 298 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:20,360 - 13. - $1,300. 299 00:14:20,568 --> 00:14:22,653 - 14. - 14. 300 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:24,530 $1,400. 301 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:26,699 Going once. 302 00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:31,204 $1,400, going twice. 303 00:14:31,704 --> 00:14:34,916 $1,400 sold at a bargain! 304 00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:45,843 Qapla', man. 305 00:14:46,052 --> 00:14:47,052 Qapla. I 306 00:14:49,055 --> 00:14:50,295 I was bidding on the headpiece, 307 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:53,351 and the price started getting up to the point 308 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:55,245 where I really wasn't interested in paying that much. 309 00:14:55,269 --> 00:14:56,469 That klingon really wanted it. 310 00:14:56,646 --> 00:14:58,106 He really wanted that headpiece, yes. 311 00:14:58,314 --> 00:14:59,565 So, how badly did you want it? 312 00:14:59,774 --> 00:15:01,192 I wouldn't have left without it. 313 00:15:01,609 --> 00:15:06,030 It's a little bit of history that I'll preserve. 314 00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:08,199 I collect the items when I can get them 315 00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:09,867 and they're wonderful to have. 316 00:15:10,076 --> 00:15:12,537 It's... they're definitely one-of-a-kind items. 317 00:15:13,246 --> 00:15:14,390 Everything we touch, 318 00:15:14,414 --> 00:15:16,214 whether it be a little piece of hair or a nose 319 00:15:16,416 --> 00:15:17,417 or something small, 320 00:15:17,625 --> 00:15:18,936 there's a whole cult market out there 321 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,503 where a lot of the pieces sell 322 00:15:21,087 --> 00:15:22,922 for hundreds and thousands of dollars. 323 00:15:23,131 --> 00:15:24,882 What we see in these rooms 324 00:15:25,091 --> 00:15:26,384 is literally could... 325 00:15:26,592 --> 00:15:28,469 Could run into the millions if there was, 326 00:15:28,678 --> 00:15:30,781 you know, if we opened up a market on the outside of it. 327 00:15:30,805 --> 00:15:31,973 So we're very guarded. 328 00:15:32,181 --> 00:15:33,661 Everything we keep under lock and key. 329 00:15:33,766 --> 00:15:35,810 Unfortunately, John de lancie couldn't make it 330 00:15:36,018 --> 00:15:39,147 to this show this weekend due to professional commitments. 331 00:15:39,355 --> 00:15:41,232 We do have an autograph here. 332 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:44,569 Well, the q virus was the most bizarre thing. 333 00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:47,071 John de lancie, who plays q, was... 334 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,073 He barely made it to the convention. 335 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:52,743 He was really sick, I mean, very ill. 336 00:15:52,952 --> 00:15:55,163 Dizzy, questioning whether he was going to go onstage, 337 00:15:55,371 --> 00:15:57,874 but he was a real trouper and he... he went up on stage and 338 00:15:58,082 --> 00:16:01,752 and did a show and, you know, he left his water glass. 339 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:03,588 And I held up the glass and I said, 340 00:16:03,796 --> 00:16:07,091 "who would be interested in purchasing the q virus?" 341 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:08,843 And it was kind of a joke, 342 00:16:09,051 --> 00:16:11,762 but the crowd just went absolutely crazy. 343 00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:13,731 They went... they went bonkers for the thing. 344 00:16:13,931 --> 00:16:16,601 So, you know, I went ahead and auctioned off the glass, 345 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:20,354 and it went for, I don't know, 40, $60 or something like this. 346 00:16:20,563 --> 00:16:24,108 And a guy bought it, and he came up, and I said, "look." 347 00:16:24,609 --> 00:16:26,152 It was half-full still of water. 348 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,560 I said, "look, you really, you don't want to drink this. 349 00:16:28,738 --> 00:16:31,282 He's very sick. I mean, he's very, very ill." 350 00:16:31,491 --> 00:16:33,886 "Oh, no, no. Oh, no. I want to drink it. I want to drink it." 351 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:35,637 And he just, he downed the whole glass right there, 352 00:16:35,661 --> 00:16:37,622 and he yelled out, "I've got the q virus! 353 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:39,624 I've got the q virus!" 354 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:41,792 And he planned to spread it all over the world. 355 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:44,212 You know, that was his, His thing. 356 00:16:44,879 --> 00:16:46,519 I was walking down the street in New York, 357 00:16:46,547 --> 00:16:48,799 and I caught somebody coming towards me. 358 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:53,930 He said, "are you q?" And I said, "yeah." 359 00:16:54,388 --> 00:16:56,599 "Can you bring people back from the dead?" 360 00:16:57,892 --> 00:17:00,937 And I went, "uh, only people I like." 361 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,648 And he goes, "cool." 362 00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:04,856 And walked on. 363 00:17:05,816 --> 00:17:08,653 There was a fan who, in 1973 in New York, 364 00:17:08,861 --> 00:17:11,405 came up to Jimmy doohan, who I was with, 365 00:17:11,614 --> 00:17:14,825 and pulled out a box that had a hypodermic in it 366 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:17,828 and asked Jimmy if he could get a sample of his blood. 367 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:22,375 A woman stood up in one of the conventions and said, 368 00:17:23,084 --> 00:17:25,795 uh, “what's it feel like to be beamed?" 369 00:17:27,171 --> 00:17:29,799 20 years later, he was at a convention in New York, 370 00:17:30,383 --> 00:17:32,552 and the same young man came up to him with the same box 371 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,178 with the same hypodermic and said, 372 00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:36,681 "Mr. Doohan, can I get a sample of your blood?" 373 00:17:36,889 --> 00:17:39,016 He was still doing the same thing 20 years later. 374 00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:43,854 There was one gentleman who, for about te... what? 10 years? 375 00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:45,143 Almost the whole run. 376 00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:47,525 Almost the whole run of... Of since the beginning 377 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:48,943 of the next generation, 378 00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:52,154 has been sending something in the mail every day 379 00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:56,033 every day, 380 00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:58,452 the funny thing is, it has nothing to do with Star Trek. 381 00:17:58,661 --> 00:18:04,333 He sends us travel brochures, um, and that's all he sends. 382 00:18:04,792 --> 00:18:07,211 And postcards talking about where he travel 383 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:09,130 where he travels or sometimes he descri... 384 00:18:09,338 --> 00:18:10,881 Well, look at this one. 385 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:13,843 We've got a Victoria's secret catalog that he sent. 386 00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:17,555 Something about a mission. 387 00:18:18,806 --> 00:18:21,517 A... a fruit trees and landscaping catalog. 388 00:18:22,476 --> 00:18:26,564 Caribbean, Hawaii, Canada, Australia. 389 00:18:26,772 --> 00:18:28,441 He also will sometimes send postcards 390 00:18:28,649 --> 00:18:30,901 talking about what he had for lunch that day 391 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:33,946 or what he ate or how many cups of coffee he drank. 392 00:18:34,155 --> 00:18:36,240 And it's always to Star Trek, 393 00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:37,742 but it's never about Star Trek. 394 00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:39,660 And we always wondered about this guy. 395 00:18:39,869 --> 00:18:40,995 Who is he? Where is he from? 396 00:18:41,203 --> 00:18:43,122 And why is he sending us these things? 397 00:18:43,331 --> 00:18:44,915 And if you, over 10 years, every day, 398 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:46,584 that's quite a few packages. 399 00:18:47,543 --> 00:18:48,703 All right, go please. 400 00:18:48,836 --> 00:18:49,962 That can be seen? 401 00:18:50,171 --> 00:18:51,839 Exactly. Okay, here we go, please. 402 00:18:52,048 --> 00:18:53,358 - Rolling. - Marker. 403 00:18:53,382 --> 00:18:54,634 And action, please. 404 00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:57,928 Maybe you didn't read the crew roster, 405 00:18:58,137 --> 00:18:59,597 but my name is Dax, 406 00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:03,017 and I'm the new science officer on this garbage scow, 407 00:19:03,225 --> 00:19:06,145 and you were in my seat. 408 00:19:06,812 --> 00:19:07,938 And cut! 409 00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:09,440 Very nice. 410 00:19:09,649 --> 00:19:12,151 There was a young man who was confined to a wheelchair, 411 00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,945 and his name was Jordan la forge. 412 00:19:15,237 --> 00:19:19,116 The young man was given six months to a year to live, 413 00:19:19,325 --> 00:19:21,661 and, uh, he attributes the fact that he lived 414 00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:25,039 for many years after his prognosis 415 00:19:25,247 --> 00:19:26,727 to the fact that he watched Star Trek. 416 00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:29,210 Finally, when he did pass away, 417 00:19:29,418 --> 00:19:33,464 gene just thought that having somebody in that place, 418 00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:37,301 you know, as geordi, would be a perfect example, 419 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:41,180 a perfect sort of, a nice thing to do in memory of him. 420 00:19:41,389 --> 00:19:43,516 Originally, geordi was the pilot of the ship, 421 00:19:43,724 --> 00:19:46,143 so he wanted the pilot to be, you know, the blind man, 422 00:19:46,352 --> 00:19:48,646 and the blind man is the one that's flying this ship. 423 00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:57,238 I watched the original series 424 00:19:57,446 --> 00:20:00,032 with my mother and brother when I was a kid, 425 00:20:00,241 --> 00:20:01,534 and I enjoyed it. 426 00:20:02,159 --> 00:20:07,665 Um, at this point, I enjoy his enthusiasm more. 427 00:20:07,873 --> 00:20:11,168 I enjoy the shows, I enjoy the conventions, 428 00:20:11,377 --> 00:20:15,005 I like dressing up, I love dressing her up, 429 00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:18,134 but I enjoy his fanaticism. 430 00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:20,511 It's contagious. 431 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:24,807 And what makes you a fanatic as opposed to a fan? 432 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:27,865 I think the fact that I'm so much into it. 433 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:29,103 I do a lot of collecting. 434 00:20:29,311 --> 00:20:31,731 I relate to so much of it. 435 00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:34,692 I know a lot about it. 436 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:37,194 It's more that just a casual, 437 00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:39,739 "I enjoy the show, I enjoy the concept." 438 00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:41,323 It's... I'm really into it. 439 00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:43,075 This is the trek room. 440 00:20:44,118 --> 00:20:45,411 This is, you know, my room. 441 00:20:45,619 --> 00:20:46,871 I can design it the way I want. 442 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:48,706 I can put what I want in it. 443 00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:50,600 Although you do notice it's spilling out 444 00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:52,626 into the other areas of the house. 445 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:55,546 This is the bathroom, 446 00:20:55,755 --> 00:20:58,382 and we've carried the trek theme in here. 447 00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:01,552 We have our starfleet towel set, 448 00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:05,389 and all of our federation blue tile here. 449 00:21:05,598 --> 00:21:09,477 We offset it with these three hand-painted trek tiles, 450 00:21:09,685 --> 00:21:13,063 the planets, the enterprise, and one of the enemy. 451 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:16,066 We asked whether we might visit cape canaveral, 452 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:19,403 nichelle and I, and we peered in one of the portholes, 453 00:21:19,612 --> 00:21:22,406 and there were astronauts working in that. 454 00:21:22,615 --> 00:21:24,575 They turned around and looked, 455 00:21:24,784 --> 00:21:28,913 and they recognized our two faces peering in at them, 456 00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:31,999 and you should have seen their eyes light up. 457 00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:35,085 And they came scrambling out of that place, 458 00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:38,506 and the first thing they did was, "can we..." 459 00:21:38,714 --> 00:21:41,759 Ask was... ask us, "can we have your autographs, please?" 460 00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:44,261 We went there to get their autographs, 461 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:48,766 and they, in turn, were asking us for ours. 462 00:21:49,517 --> 00:21:51,936 Star Trek came along at a time 463 00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:54,855 when I think the public was really kind of hungry 464 00:21:55,064 --> 00:21:56,732 for that sort of adventure, 465 00:21:57,233 --> 00:22:00,861 and it went a long ways toward stimulating a lot of interest 466 00:22:01,070 --> 00:22:02,112 into the space program. 467 00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:04,532 Star Trek is a cultural icon, 468 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:06,283 and it's part of the lexicon now. 469 00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:09,787 As a psychotherapist, I have Star Trek stuff in my office, 470 00:22:09,995 --> 00:22:13,165 and I use Star Trek metaphors that everyone understands, 471 00:22:13,374 --> 00:22:14,625 even if they're not a fan. 472 00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:16,293 For example, when I talk about people 473 00:22:16,502 --> 00:22:18,170 having a defensive reaction, 474 00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:19,964 I talk about the shields going up, 475 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:21,399 and everyone knows what that means, 476 00:22:21,423 --> 00:22:22,463 even if they're not a fan. 477 00:22:22,591 --> 00:22:23,711 The front part of my office, 478 00:22:23,843 --> 00:22:25,403 that is, the part that the patients see, 479 00:22:25,469 --> 00:22:27,072 is a pretty straightforward surgical office. 480 00:22:27,096 --> 00:22:28,848 My own private consulting room 481 00:22:29,056 --> 00:22:31,559 is just filled with Star Trek stuff. 482 00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:33,811 I'm denis bourguignon. 483 00:22:34,019 --> 00:22:38,065 This is my son, Doug, my wife, shelley, 484 00:22:38,274 --> 00:22:39,608 and my daughter, Kayla. 485 00:22:40,109 --> 00:22:41,669 We're here in Orlando, Florida, 486 00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:43,696 at the dental offices of Dr. Denis bourguignon. 487 00:22:43,904 --> 00:22:45,298 - Good morning. - Good morning. 488 00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:46,323 How are you? 489 00:22:46,532 --> 00:22:48,158 Pleasure to see you. Good to see you. 490 00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:49,535 Welcome to star base dental. 491 00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:53,205 We originally decided that we wanted to go with Star Trek 492 00:22:53,414 --> 00:22:55,499 because we find that Star Trek, 493 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:58,335 the episodes are always geared with a moral. 494 00:22:58,544 --> 00:23:01,171 They're good-doers. And we wanted to portray 495 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:04,592 dentistr... uh, dentistry or dentists as good-doers. 496 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,719 So, um, this is reception. 497 00:23:06,927 --> 00:23:08,167 Yes, this is reception. 498 00:23:08,262 --> 00:23:09,531 This is where the patients check in. 499 00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:11,199 This is our holodeck, over here on the left. 500 00:23:11,223 --> 00:23:12,850 This is where I do most of my work. 501 00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:14,393 This is where I give fillings, 502 00:23:14,602 --> 00:23:17,062 crowns, dentures, things like that. 503 00:23:17,646 --> 00:23:20,441 We were just in a Sci-Fi store one day, shelley and I, 504 00:23:20,649 --> 00:23:22,889 and we kind of looked at each other, and we said, "hey." 505 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,529 "You thinking what I'm thinking?" 506 00:23:25,738 --> 00:23:27,489 And we said, "let's try it." 507 00:23:30,451 --> 00:23:31,535 Two weeks later, 508 00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,263 we just closed down the office over the weekend, 509 00:23:33,287 --> 00:23:35,706 and we bought up everything we could find, and... and boom! 510 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:37,207 We did a star base dental. 511 00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:39,896 As you can see, our transporter is up in the ceiling over here. 512 00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:44,048 It transports you away from here while we're working on you. 513 00:23:44,757 --> 00:23:46,800 These are some nice pieces over here. 514 00:23:47,009 --> 00:23:49,887 These are my cement handprints of some of the stars. 515 00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:51,472 You're about James doohan's size. 516 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,933 No, wait, there's a finger missing! 517 00:23:54,308 --> 00:23:56,602 - I never knew that. - A gardening accident. 518 00:23:56,810 --> 00:23:58,490 This is the first theme office I worked in. 519 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,981 I really like it, it's neat. It's fun to come to work. 520 00:24:01,190 --> 00:24:02,584 Yeah, it's different to come to work. 521 00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:05,402 You don't know what's, uh, what's gonna be around. 522 00:24:05,611 --> 00:24:07,380 They bring something different in all the time. 523 00:24:07,404 --> 00:24:08,757 Every morning you come in, you wonder, 524 00:24:08,781 --> 00:24:10,407 "well, what's gonna be on these walls 525 00:24:10,616 --> 00:24:12,076 that wasn't here before?" 526 00:24:12,284 --> 00:24:13,744 The uniform, I wouldn't do, at first. 527 00:24:13,953 --> 00:24:15,120 I told them no. 528 00:24:15,329 --> 00:24:17,164 That wasn't possible for me. 529 00:24:17,373 --> 00:24:18,892 And you just... How long did it... 530 00:24:18,916 --> 00:24:19,916 Did you hold out? 531 00:24:20,084 --> 00:24:21,919 Uh, about, almost a year. 532 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:24,672 Almost a year before I was... I was the last one to put it on. 533 00:24:25,047 --> 00:24:27,424 What made you finally turn the corner? 534 00:24:27,633 --> 00:24:28,676 He told me I had to. 535 00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:32,596 - She cried a few times. - He told me I had to. 536 00:24:32,805 --> 00:24:34,598 We actually dress up like this at home 537 00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:36,451 and we take turns being different characters 538 00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:38,102 and it helps our... 0ur... 539 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:39,704 - Relationship, yeah. - Yeah, it does. 540 00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:41,122 Almost like going out with different people. 541 00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:42,481 - Really? - Yeah. 542 00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:44,626 I haven't done you yet because I'm not tall enough, 543 00:24:44,650 --> 00:24:46,860 so he usually puts a wig on. He has to portray you. 544 00:24:47,069 --> 00:24:49,488 And then I have to be data or quark. 545 00:24:49,697 --> 00:24:51,198 Yeah, quark. Sometimes quark. 546 00:24:52,741 --> 00:24:54,368 And how do the patients respond? 547 00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:56,036 Most of them like it. 548 00:24:56,245 --> 00:24:57,325 I think the Star Trek theme 549 00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:59,123 in the dentist's office is great. 550 00:24:59,331 --> 00:25:01,309 It just... it takes your mind off where you really are. 551 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:03,127 It's not like any other dentist office 552 00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:04,695 I've ever been in, that's for sure. 553 00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:08,465 Most people, even if they don't like Star Trek, 554 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:10,300 like the idea of it. 555 00:25:10,676 --> 00:25:14,471 I've only had one person who didn't like the idea, 556 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,057 but he wasn't happy about his bill in the first place, so... 557 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:19,703 Good afternoon, Preston. How you doing? 558 00:25:19,727 --> 00:25:21,997 - Hey, denis, how are ya? - Good to see you, come on back. 559 00:25:22,021 --> 00:25:23,373 Let's go ahead and get you going here. 560 00:25:23,397 --> 00:25:24,397 Okay. 561 00:25:24,732 --> 00:25:26,150 All right, take a look here. 562 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,862 Number two, occlusal lingual. 563 00:25:32,072 --> 00:25:33,072 Number three crown. 564 00:25:34,116 --> 00:25:35,659 Shelley and I started in another office 565 00:25:35,868 --> 00:25:37,161 at about the same time and 566 00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:39,371 shelley started as the front desk receptionist. 567 00:25:39,580 --> 00:25:41,832 After about a while, she liked dentistry so much, 568 00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:43,667 she decided she wanted to maybe assist, 569 00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:46,670 so I brought her back and I taught her to assist, 570 00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:50,007 and, we worked very well together, 571 00:25:50,215 --> 00:25:52,176 so we decided to make it a bond for life, 572 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,136 and we're together now forever. 573 00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:58,348 I'm dressed as a NASA astronaut 574 00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:01,268 that was actually killed that they investigated 575 00:26:01,477 --> 00:26:05,022 the death of in an episode called "the royale" 576 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:06,523 of the next generation. 577 00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:09,735 Um, at least, that was the original idea, 578 00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:13,197 and then I kind of moved on. 579 00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:16,492 Kind of character-developed it a little bit. 580 00:26:17,201 --> 00:26:21,080 Um, instead of it being him, it's his wife. 581 00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:24,458 So what is your interest in, uh, in Star Trek? 582 00:26:24,666 --> 00:26:26,543 Mainly Brent, Brent spiner. 583 00:26:26,752 --> 00:26:28,712 Lieutenant commander data on the next generation, 584 00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:29,921 as you well know. 585 00:26:30,089 --> 00:26:31,423 Yes, I know him well. 586 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:33,926 Now, you guys call yourself... 587 00:26:34,134 --> 00:26:35,344 Spiner femmes. 588 00:26:35,552 --> 00:26:36,720 Spiner femmes. Yes. 589 00:26:36,929 --> 00:26:38,073 - Spiner femmes? - Uh-huh. 590 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:39,741 - I like that. - It's good, isn't it? 591 00:26:39,765 --> 00:26:42,309 Spiner femmes. I think there's a series in that. 592 00:26:42,518 --> 00:26:44,144 This is my Brent page. 593 00:26:44,353 --> 00:26:45,673 When I find out that somebody else 594 00:26:45,813 --> 00:26:47,481 has discovered Brent through my web page, 595 00:26:47,689 --> 00:26:48,809 I feel really good about it. 596 00:26:48,899 --> 00:26:50,400 I feel, yeah, it's another fan here. 597 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:53,153 Let other people outside of the Star Trek universe 598 00:26:53,362 --> 00:26:54,363 know who he is. 599 00:26:54,571 --> 00:26:55,697 He's not just data. 600 00:26:56,115 --> 00:26:58,200 This is where I keep, right down here, 601 00:26:58,408 --> 00:27:03,205 I keep all the important collectibles. 602 00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:06,917 Got videos, t-shirts, mugs, the important stuff. 603 00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:08,394 If there's an earthquake, a fire, 604 00:27:08,418 --> 00:27:09,658 I want this stuff to be intact. 605 00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:11,338 This is my photo album. 606 00:27:11,547 --> 00:27:13,340 These are more convention photos 607 00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:15,884 and more convention photos 608 00:27:16,093 --> 00:27:18,595 and even more convention photos and... 609 00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:21,515 It goes on for days. 610 00:27:21,723 --> 00:27:23,392 I... these ones, I always put them in 611 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,145 so they're all facing the same order. 612 00:27:26,353 --> 00:27:27,539 Once I get through with these, 613 00:27:27,563 --> 00:27:31,191 then it switches to ones this way. 614 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,819 Saves having to turn the photo album every two minutes. 615 00:27:34,611 --> 00:27:35,611 Palm Springs convention. 616 00:27:35,779 --> 00:27:37,489 This is actually, I took over 100 pictures 617 00:27:37,698 --> 00:27:39,592 at the palm Springs convention, and when I got them back, 618 00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:41,618 I took a picture of all the pictures I took. 619 00:27:41,827 --> 00:27:45,247 A lot of these are enlargements of convention photos. 620 00:27:45,455 --> 00:27:46,874 I had a calendar made up one year 621 00:27:47,082 --> 00:27:48,922 for a couple of friends for Christmas presents. 622 00:27:48,959 --> 00:27:50,252 That's my back right there. 623 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:53,297 I gave him, it was a Texas stamp they issued, 624 00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:55,591 and they issued a sheet that told about 625 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:57,026 the background of Texas and all that. 626 00:27:57,050 --> 00:27:58,343 I ordered it from the post office 627 00:27:58,552 --> 00:28:00,304 and framed it for him since he's from Texas. 628 00:28:00,512 --> 00:28:01,990 I don't get much stuff anymore 629 00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:03,599 because I've sort of let it be known 630 00:28:03,807 --> 00:28:05,207 when I've done conventions and stuff 631 00:28:05,267 --> 00:28:08,187 that it wasn't necessary and it wasn't really a good idea 632 00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:10,105 because that the people should be 633 00:28:10,314 --> 00:28:12,482 spending their money on me, you know? 634 00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:16,028 I mean, I... I tried to express that we do okay, you know, 635 00:28:16,236 --> 00:28:18,780 and that they should really, you know, save their money. 636 00:28:19,072 --> 00:28:20,341 It's not about the money. 637 00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:21,783 It gives me a good feeling. 638 00:28:21,992 --> 00:28:23,535 I like to do that for my friends, too. 639 00:28:23,744 --> 00:28:25,204 If I can find something unusual, 640 00:28:25,412 --> 00:28:28,290 I like to get unusual gifts for people. 641 00:28:28,498 --> 00:28:29,726 After I'd lived here about a year 642 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:30,977 and I found out where Brent lived, 643 00:28:31,001 --> 00:28:33,161 and I realized I could just see, I can't see his house, 644 00:28:33,295 --> 00:28:35,714 but I can see the hill, the top of the hill 645 00:28:35,923 --> 00:28:38,008 that he lives at the bottom of from the balcony, 646 00:28:38,217 --> 00:28:40,377 and so when I'm stressed out, I come out here sometimes 647 00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:42,072 and just sit out here for a few minutes 648 00:28:42,262 --> 00:28:43,622 to take what I call a "Brent break" 649 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,183 and just kind of gaze off in that direction 650 00:28:46,391 --> 00:28:47,976 and daydream for a little while. 651 00:28:48,852 --> 00:28:50,205 What are some of your favorite things 652 00:28:50,229 --> 00:28:51,605 that you like to do at conventions? 653 00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:53,023 Ever heard of filking? 654 00:28:53,482 --> 00:28:54,709 No, tell me what that is. 655 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:56,276 Science-fiction folk singing. 656 00:28:57,694 --> 00:28:58,922 Could you explain that? 657 00:28:58,946 --> 00:29:00,781 Well, actually I could give you an example. 658 00:29:00,989 --> 00:29:02,157 Perfect. 659 00:29:02,366 --> 00:29:07,287 Episode of original series called "space seed," 660 00:29:07,537 --> 00:29:09,623 which was the launching for the second movie, 661 00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:11,250 the wrath of Khan. 662 00:29:11,458 --> 00:29:13,085 There is a song. Um. 663 00:29:13,377 --> 00:29:15,837 The song is called "vow of vengeance." 664 00:29:16,046 --> 00:29:18,048 It's Khan's vow. 665 00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:21,468 Let's... let's see. 666 00:29:21,677 --> 00:29:23,720 J“ the summer sunlight j“ 667 00:29:23,929 --> 00:29:26,473 j“ the howling at night j“ 668 00:29:26,682 --> 00:29:28,934 j“ the blood of friends spilled j“ 669 00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:33,355 j“ I'll meet some quick death j” 670 00:29:33,563 --> 00:29:35,607 j“ she breathes her last breath j' 671 00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:40,153 j“ and dies as I cling to her hand j' 672 00:29:40,362 --> 00:29:43,323 j“ mere mortals you be j“ 673 00:29:43,532 --> 00:29:46,326 j“ the truth you can see j“ 674 00:29:46,535 --> 00:29:50,080 j“ you think you have right but j“ 675 00:29:51,832 --> 00:29:53,268 It's been a while since I've sung it. 676 00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:54,918 J“ you think j“ 677 00:29:55,335 --> 00:29:56,335 no. 678 00:29:56,503 --> 00:29:58,380 Action! 679 00:29:58,588 --> 00:30:00,299 An alliance with the borg? 680 00:30:00,507 --> 00:30:02,592 More like an exchange. 681 00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:05,887 If we teach the borg how to modify their own nanoprobes, 682 00:30:06,096 --> 00:30:07,848 they'd have a blueprint to create a weapon 683 00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:09,850 - to fight the aliens. - Cut! 684 00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:12,144 When I am asked to go to a hospital, 685 00:30:12,602 --> 00:30:13,854 it's a specific boy, 686 00:30:14,938 --> 00:30:16,018 and he's not gonna be there 687 00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,649 the next time I go to that hospital, 688 00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,694 and it means a great deal to him that I be honest with him 689 00:30:21,069 --> 00:30:23,405 in that hour that we share together, you know? 690 00:30:24,072 --> 00:30:25,112 That can change your life. 691 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,785 There's a woman who's almost totally paralyzed, 692 00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:30,454 and she was able to just kind of 693 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:32,539 with the help of an interpreter say, 694 00:30:32,748 --> 00:30:34,875 "for the hour that you are on," 695 00:30:35,083 --> 00:30:36,335 meaning Star Trek is on, 696 00:30:36,543 --> 00:30:41,506 “I forget the body that I am imprisoned in." 697 00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:44,509 I got a fan letter from a young lady. 698 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:51,183 It was a suicide note. 699 00:30:53,143 --> 00:30:55,520 So I, u, I called her. 700 00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:58,815 I said, "hey, this is Jimmy doohan, 701 00:30:59,983 --> 00:31:02,235 Scotty of Star Trek." 702 00:31:02,778 --> 00:31:06,281 I said, "I'm doing a convention in Indianapolis. 703 00:31:06,823 --> 00:31:08,158 I want to see you there." 704 00:31:10,243 --> 00:31:11,370 I saw her. 705 00:31:11,578 --> 00:31:12,579 Boy, I'm telling you. 706 00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:16,917 I couldn't believe what I saw. 707 00:31:17,125 --> 00:31:19,628 That was... She was definitely suicidal. 708 00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:24,508 You know, somebody had to help her somehow, 709 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:26,610 you know, and obviously she wasn't going 710 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:28,970 to the right people, you know. 711 00:31:31,098 --> 00:31:34,476 Anyhow, I said to her, I said, "I'm doing a convention 712 00:31:34,684 --> 00:31:37,145 two weeks from now in St. Louis, 713 00:31:38,188 --> 00:31:41,316 and two weeks from then in something," 714 00:31:41,525 --> 00:31:44,027 you know, and then eventually, she also came to New York. 715 00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:47,280 She was able to afford to go to these places 716 00:31:48,198 --> 00:31:49,991 and everything else, so... 717 00:31:51,368 --> 00:31:53,995 And then that went on for two or three years, 718 00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:58,959 maybe 18 times, and all I did was talk 719 00:31:59,167 --> 00:32:00,669 positive things to her. 720 00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:03,672 And then all of a sudden, nothing. 721 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,880 I didn't hear anything, 722 00:32:05,048 --> 00:32:07,050 and I had no idea what was happening to her 723 00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:12,764 because I really never saved her address, right? 724 00:32:13,849 --> 00:32:17,436 Eight years later, I get a letter 725 00:32:18,854 --> 00:32:22,774 saying, "I do want to thank you so much for what you did for me 726 00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:28,155 because I just got my master's degree 727 00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:30,282 in electronic engineering." 728 00:32:32,325 --> 00:32:35,579 You know, that's to me, the best thing 729 00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:37,122 I've ever done in my life, 730 00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:39,541 and it brings tears to my eyes 731 00:32:39,749 --> 00:32:43,128 every time I even talk about the story. 732 00:32:43,837 --> 00:32:45,547 Over a period of several years, 733 00:32:45,755 --> 00:32:48,383 we've raised several hundred thousand dollars 734 00:32:48,592 --> 00:32:49,801 for these three charities. 735 00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:51,219 This is what Star Trek does. 736 00:32:51,428 --> 00:32:53,680 Star Trek is part entertainment 737 00:32:53,889 --> 00:32:55,265 and part philosophy, 738 00:32:55,474 --> 00:32:57,350 and this part of Star Trek 739 00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:59,811 goes unnoticed to most of the public. 740 00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:01,020 I have a question. 741 00:33:01,188 --> 00:33:02,832 Have you thought about actually talking to schoolteachers? 742 00:33:02,856 --> 00:33:04,250 I'm a schoolteacher, and talking to schools 743 00:33:04,274 --> 00:33:05,960 and getting them to talk to the kids about it? 744 00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:08,153 - Can you help us organize that? - Sure! 745 00:33:08,361 --> 00:33:10,441 I teach kindergarten, so sometimes it's a little hard 746 00:33:10,572 --> 00:33:13,033 for them to grasp the concept of racial diversity 747 00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:14,241 and ethnic diversity, 748 00:33:14,409 --> 00:33:16,161 so if you have a show like Star Trek 749 00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:17,849 that shows a bunch of different aliens 750 00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:19,664 and a bunch of different-colored people 751 00:33:19,873 --> 00:33:21,753 and different types of people all getting along, 752 00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:23,877 it works wonderfully to illustrate that point. 753 00:33:24,085 --> 00:33:27,881 Star Trek has changed the way that I teach science, 754 00:33:28,089 --> 00:33:30,050 specifically space science. 755 00:33:30,258 --> 00:33:33,762 By giving children an immediate frame of reference 756 00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:36,056 that they know of, that they can get excited about, 757 00:33:36,264 --> 00:33:38,058 it just inspires their imagination. 758 00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:39,935 This is something we've been excited about 759 00:33:40,143 --> 00:33:41,228 because it's carried on. 760 00:33:41,436 --> 00:33:44,940 Having Kate mulgrew portray the captain on the voyager. 761 00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:46,459 They feel that it's the first time 762 00:33:46,483 --> 00:33:48,109 that they can sit down as a family 763 00:33:48,318 --> 00:33:51,821 and view a woman in a leadership role as a family 764 00:33:52,739 --> 00:33:54,574 without having to carry on a conversation 765 00:33:54,783 --> 00:33:56,969 about who's being victimized or what does she stand for. 766 00:33:56,993 --> 00:34:01,206 She is so obviously a woman of authority and strength, 767 00:34:01,414 --> 00:34:03,875 but she's not a witch with a capital b, you know? 768 00:34:04,084 --> 00:34:06,628 She's... she's just a person in authority. 769 00:34:06,836 --> 00:34:10,048 I get a great deal of mail from women who say 770 00:34:10,257 --> 00:34:13,051 that they watch voyager with their daughters 771 00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:16,012 and how good it makes them feel 772 00:34:16,221 --> 00:34:18,306 to be able to point to the screen and say, 773 00:34:18,515 --> 00:34:20,809 "see? You can be anything." 774 00:34:21,017 --> 00:34:22,769 And what do you want to do when you grow up? 775 00:34:22,978 --> 00:34:23,978 Be a astronaut. 776 00:34:24,145 --> 00:34:25,145 Mae Carol jemison, 777 00:34:25,313 --> 00:34:27,023 first African-American woman in space. 778 00:34:27,232 --> 00:34:28,232 She flew on the shuttle, 779 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,151 became a scientist first 780 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,380 and then an astronaut because she saw nichelle Nichols 781 00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:33,756 on the original Star Trek series and said, 782 00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:35,198 "you know what? That's for me." 783 00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:40,370 There were two little girls around nine years old, 784 00:34:40,579 --> 00:34:43,790 eight years old, when Star Trek first came on, 785 00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:48,587 and one of them told me years later, 786 00:34:48,795 --> 00:34:54,759 "I looked on that television and I saw you. 787 00:34:55,802 --> 00:34:57,846 I saw this black lady, 788 00:34:58,763 --> 00:35:01,349 and I ran through the house screaming, 789 00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:03,018 'come quick! Come quick! 790 00:35:03,226 --> 00:35:04,978 There's a black lady on television, 791 00:35:05,186 --> 00:35:07,856 and she ain't no maid!"' 792 00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:13,778 And she said, "I knew right then and there 793 00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:15,739 I could be anybody I wanted to be. 794 00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:18,199 I could be anything I wanted to be." 795 00:35:18,408 --> 00:35:21,578 And so she decided to be a superstar. 796 00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:23,330 And her name is whoopi goldberg. 797 00:35:24,372 --> 00:35:25,373 I'm Joyce Mason. 798 00:35:25,582 --> 00:35:26,875 And I'm Evelyn de biase. 799 00:35:27,083 --> 00:35:30,086 And we host a radio show called talk trek and beyond. 800 00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:31,856 - Mm-hm. - The way it got 801 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,899 started was, we were on our lunch hour one time at work, 802 00:35:33,923 --> 00:35:36,635 and we thought about trek, talking trek. 803 00:35:36,843 --> 00:35:38,963 You know, it's a lot of fun, something we do a lot of, 804 00:35:39,012 --> 00:35:41,765 so we decided it would be a great radio show. 805 00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:42,973 How do you do it? 806 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:46,227 Well, I called up the directory assistance on the phone, 807 00:35:46,436 --> 00:35:48,480 and I asked for the telephone number... 808 00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:51,107 Of a radio station. 809 00:35:51,316 --> 00:35:52,316 And she asked me... 810 00:35:52,484 --> 00:35:53,902 "Which one do you want?" 811 00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:56,279 I didn't know, so I said, “pick one." 812 00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:57,488 - Anything. - And she did. 813 00:35:57,656 --> 00:35:59,699 She picked out this radio station, kav. 814 00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:01,743 We packed up our things, went over. 815 00:36:01,951 --> 00:36:03,578 Two weeks later, we were on the air. 816 00:36:03,787 --> 00:36:05,747 - First time. - That was seven years ago. 817 00:36:06,247 --> 00:36:07,767 - And we're still on! - And we're still 818 00:36:07,791 --> 00:36:08,871 on the air! 819 00:36:09,042 --> 00:36:10,402 And it's been a lot of fun. 820 00:36:10,585 --> 00:36:11,771 We didn't have the foggiest idea 821 00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:13,963 what we were doing that first night, but... 822 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:15,799 And we still don't. 823 00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:17,979 A convention on the air. 824 00:36:21,554 --> 00:36:23,765 Evening, gentle beings. How are you all doing tonight? 825 00:36:23,973 --> 00:36:25,117 Welcome to talk trek and beyond. 826 00:36:25,141 --> 00:36:26,941 This is Joyce. We're delighted to be with you. 827 00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:28,770 We're gonna have a good time tonight. 828 00:36:28,978 --> 00:36:30,418 We have a very special guest with us. 829 00:36:30,605 --> 00:36:32,399 - Yes. - Denise Crosby. 830 00:36:32,816 --> 00:36:34,192 Denise Crosby! 831 00:36:36,152 --> 00:36:37,529 Hey, guys, are you ready? 832 00:36:37,737 --> 00:36:39,948 I know that our listeners are just dying to talk to you. 833 00:36:40,156 --> 00:36:42,134 Hey, John in Portland, Oregon, on line one. 834 00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:44,035 - Hey, Portland! - Yes, hi, you guys. 835 00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:45,763 - Okay, how are you? - Hi, Denise. 836 00:36:45,787 --> 00:36:46,787 Hi, John. 837 00:36:46,955 --> 00:36:49,416 One thing I 'd like to say is without "skin of evil," 838 00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:51,477 there could have been no "yesterday's enterprise." 839 00:36:51,501 --> 00:36:52,501 Right, exactly. 840 00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:54,295 There's some irony in that, isn't there? 841 00:36:54,504 --> 00:36:56,144 - Yes. - I mean, I always felt that 842 00:36:56,172 --> 00:36:57,841 I... I had to die and get off the show 843 00:36:58,049 --> 00:36:59,175 to get the best episode. 844 00:37:00,593 --> 00:37:02,571 I love just being able to talk to you like this 845 00:37:02,595 --> 00:37:04,764 because when the show originally aired, 846 00:37:04,973 --> 00:37:06,057 my father passed away. 847 00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:07,785 - Mm. I'm sorry. - And, 848 00:37:07,809 --> 00:37:10,145 the weird thing about it was, the friends that were there, 849 00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:11,438 a lot of them are trek fans 850 00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:13,273 and were around me at the time, 851 00:37:13,732 --> 00:37:16,443 and we sat down and watched that episode. 852 00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:18,194 The strangest thing about it was, 853 00:37:18,403 --> 00:37:20,864 by the time it got to the end and the holographic message 854 00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:22,072 and the whole thing, 855 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,950 it actually helped me a great deal, 856 00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:25,511 and here I get to thank you personally, 857 00:37:25,535 --> 00:37:28,246 which I did appreciate it, and I still do. 858 00:37:28,455 --> 00:37:30,415 John, I'm... I'm really touched. 859 00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:33,084 I think so many times that people don't realize 860 00:37:33,293 --> 00:37:38,214 just how important a show can be. 861 00:37:38,423 --> 00:37:42,051 It can destroy you, or it can, as in a case like this, 862 00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,487 give you a tremendous amount of comfort. 863 00:37:44,596 --> 00:37:45,865 Oh, yes, between the ending 864 00:37:45,889 --> 00:37:49,559 and the holographic imaging and the cloud and everything, 865 00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:52,020 it was just exactly what I needed at the time. 866 00:37:52,228 --> 00:37:53,873 John, I don't know how to say thank you 867 00:37:53,897 --> 00:37:55,899 for that tonight, for sharing that with us. 868 00:37:56,107 --> 00:37:57,334 I thank you for talk trek. 869 00:37:57,358 --> 00:37:58,586 - You're welcome. - Thank you. 870 00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:00,236 Thank you for being with us, my friend. 871 00:38:00,445 --> 00:38:02,280 There's nothing like a bunch of trek people 872 00:38:02,489 --> 00:38:05,325 getting together some place and just sitting and talking. 873 00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:07,660 They'll go for 24 hours or more, and... 874 00:38:07,869 --> 00:38:09,269 And that's why it's called talk trek 875 00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:10,622 rather than "trek talk," 876 00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:14,125 because it's not just a matter of talking about trek, 877 00:38:14,334 --> 00:38:16,586 but rather it's a whole universe within itself. 878 00:38:16,795 --> 00:38:19,714 Just like people talk French and talk German, we talk trek. 879 00:38:21,382 --> 00:38:22,860 So what does your bathtub look like 880 00:38:22,884 --> 00:38:24,886 - at the end of the day? - It looks very green. 881 00:38:25,178 --> 00:38:27,222 Trust me on that. 882 00:38:27,847 --> 00:38:29,007 Who is your favorite captain? 883 00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:30,725 Ah, it'd have to be captain kirk. 884 00:38:30,934 --> 00:38:31,934 Captain picard. 885 00:38:32,101 --> 00:38:33,186 Oh, I'm kind of a kirk fan. 886 00:38:33,394 --> 00:38:35,039 I like kirk because he was the first captain. 887 00:38:35,063 --> 00:38:36,981 The original, the prototype for everything else 888 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:38,270 that came along afterwards. 889 00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:39,526 Absolutely kirk. 890 00:38:39,734 --> 00:38:41,277 - Captain Jean-Luc picard. - Picard. 891 00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:42,486 - Picard. - Picard. 892 00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:43,839 Now, there's a very handsome man. 893 00:38:43,863 --> 00:38:45,583 There's a very handsome man, captain picard. 894 00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:47,116 Who's your favorite captain? 895 00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:49,202 - Data. - Well, data's not a captain. 896 00:38:49,410 --> 00:38:51,037 No, I don't like any captains. 897 00:38:51,246 --> 00:38:52,872 Who's gonna beat captain kirk? 898 00:38:53,081 --> 00:38:56,125 Come on, come on! He's a stud! 899 00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:58,670 - I can only say janeway. - Janeway's a stud, too, but... 900 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:01,839 - Janeway. - Janeway. 901 00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:04,342 I'd probably say split between janeway and kirk. 902 00:39:04,592 --> 00:39:06,636 - Kirk. - I like Avery Brooks, too, 903 00:39:06,886 --> 00:39:08,096 but that's 'cause he's cute. 904 00:39:08,304 --> 00:39:09,448 Who's your favorite captain? 905 00:39:11,099 --> 00:39:12,099 I am. 906 00:39:12,267 --> 00:39:14,769 I couldn't pick one captain over another. 907 00:39:14,978 --> 00:39:15,978 The emissary! 908 00:39:16,145 --> 00:39:18,105 - The emissary! - The emissary is different. 909 00:39:18,565 --> 00:39:19,750 We must remember the emissary. 910 00:39:19,774 --> 00:39:21,359 He is most important, 911 00:39:21,568 --> 00:39:24,320 but to place the others above the emissary 912 00:39:24,529 --> 00:39:26,155 would not be right. 913 00:39:27,115 --> 00:39:28,342 When I got the job, everybody said, 914 00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:29,909 "oh, the trekkers, the trekkies." 915 00:39:30,118 --> 00:39:32,787 Well, in fact, they're very smart. 916 00:39:32,996 --> 00:39:37,542 One has to be smart to connect science with the imagination. 917 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:38,936 That's what's really interesting to me, 918 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,047 that... that a show could have fans that span 919 00:39:43,256 --> 00:39:47,510 and bridge every sort of classification. 920 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,512 Stephen Hawking and Mel Brooks 921 00:39:49,721 --> 00:39:51,890 and, you know, Dr. Marvin minsky, 922 00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:54,267 who's head of the robotics department at mit 923 00:39:54,475 --> 00:39:56,269 or the Mercury astronauts. 924 00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:57,621 Accountants, these are lawyers. 925 00:39:57,645 --> 00:39:58,789 These are people who just really, 926 00:39:58,813 --> 00:39:59,813 really enjoy the program. 927 00:39:59,981 --> 00:40:01,166 There's this preconceived notion 928 00:40:01,190 --> 00:40:04,944 that they are a peculiar bunch of people, you know? Uh. 929 00:40:06,029 --> 00:40:08,448 I don't think I've ever met anyone, 930 00:40:08,656 --> 00:40:11,242 Star Trek fan or not, who wasn't peculiar. 931 00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:13,703 I mean, we're all peculiar, aren't we? 932 00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:14,952 The word "fan" actually is 933 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,832 an abbreviated form of "fanatic," um, 934 00:40:18,207 --> 00:40:20,793 and there are some people who fit that category, 935 00:40:21,002 --> 00:40:24,756 who are the people who really do need to get a life, um, 936 00:40:25,089 --> 00:40:28,676 but most fans are pretty normal people who have a hobby, 937 00:40:28,885 --> 00:40:31,971 who have a sense of the desire to escape, 938 00:40:32,180 --> 00:40:33,765 and you know, they know it's a show, 939 00:40:33,973 --> 00:40:37,143 and nobody really gets lost in it, but it's just fun. 940 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,356 We are the largest ship in the San Diego area. 941 00:40:41,564 --> 00:40:42,899 We do a lot of community service. 942 00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,652 We go and visit abused children in hospitals, 943 00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:47,487 and we work fairs, 944 00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:50,281 and we're having a miniature golf tournament in two weeks, 945 00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:51,675 - and... - Dressed as klingons? 946 00:40:51,699 --> 00:40:53,159 - Yes. - You play miniature golf 947 00:40:53,368 --> 00:40:54,688 - dressed as klingons? - Yes, yes. 948 00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:57,705 We're... we're going to donate the money to charity. 949 00:40:57,914 --> 00:40:59,994 My name is Marc okrand, and what I've done is develop 950 00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:02,335 the klingon language for Star Trek. 951 00:41:02,543 --> 00:41:04,587 Nuqneh! Our only greeting. 952 00:41:04,837 --> 00:41:06,965 Translates quite literally to, "what do you want?" 953 00:41:07,173 --> 00:41:09,217 When they played klingon softball, 954 00:41:09,425 --> 00:41:11,844 I never devised words for "you're out," "you're safe," 955 00:41:12,053 --> 00:41:13,853 something like that, so they had to improvise, 956 00:41:14,013 --> 00:41:15,157 and the way they improvised is, 957 00:41:15,181 --> 00:41:17,381 "you're dead," "you're alive," which works just as well. 958 00:41:17,517 --> 00:41:19,852 I like the way klingons believe, 959 00:41:20,061 --> 00:41:21,301 their code of ethics and honor. 960 00:41:21,354 --> 00:41:23,648 What I've done is turn around and tattooed 961 00:41:24,315 --> 00:41:25,566 the klingon insignia. 962 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:28,277 It took me about two and a half hours of work 963 00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:31,072 with a homemade pen to get it inked in. 964 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:34,492 This is a klingon disrupter pistol. 965 00:41:34,701 --> 00:41:36,327 Two basic settings. 966 00:41:36,577 --> 00:41:39,455 This is the stun... That's the stun setting. 967 00:41:39,664 --> 00:41:43,584 Never have I heard it been used in Star Trek. 968 00:41:43,835 --> 00:41:45,875 Not only has klingon been spoken just in the movies, 969 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,898 it turns out that people like to speak the language. 970 00:41:47,922 --> 00:41:49,242 People like to learn the language. 971 00:41:49,382 --> 00:41:50,567 The klingon language camp 972 00:41:50,591 --> 00:41:52,218 is something that we've been 973 00:41:52,427 --> 00:41:54,387 having for the last four years. 974 00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,431 It's a summer program for people to learn 975 00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:59,267 the language and customs of the culture. 976 00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:01,561 - Tlhlngan hol. - Tlhlngan hol. 977 00:42:01,769 --> 00:42:03,396 Tlhlngan hol dajatlh'a'? 978 00:42:03,604 --> 00:42:04,897 Tlhlngan hol dajatlh 'a '? 979 00:42:05,106 --> 00:42:06,107 Maj. 980 00:42:06,357 --> 00:42:08,067 - How do you say "kill"? - Hoh! 981 00:42:08,276 --> 00:42:09,485 - Hoh! - Hoh! 982 00:42:09,694 --> 00:42:10,903 - Hoh! - Yihoh! 983 00:42:11,112 --> 00:42:12,196 - Yihoh! - Jihoh! 984 00:42:12,405 --> 00:42:13,448 - Jihoh! - Pehoh! 985 00:42:13,656 --> 00:42:14,699 - Pehoh! - Jihoh! 986 00:42:14,907 --> 00:42:15,992 - Jihoh! - Pehoh! 987 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,785 - Jihoh! - Mahoh! 988 00:42:17,994 --> 00:42:19,203 Mahoh! 989 00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:35,428 They just came out with the first 990 00:42:35,636 --> 00:42:37,680 full edition in klingon of Hamlet. 991 00:42:37,889 --> 00:42:39,408 They're working on translating the Bible. 992 00:42:39,432 --> 00:42:41,392 There's a team of scholars doing this, 993 00:42:41,601 --> 00:42:43,853 and they've translated the theme song to sesame street, 994 00:42:44,062 --> 00:42:45,688 the theme song to gilligan '5 island. 995 00:42:45,980 --> 00:42:47,523 Klingons are really popular. 996 00:42:47,732 --> 00:42:49,150 Klingons are very popular. 997 00:42:49,358 --> 00:42:51,903 It's an interesting phenomenon, I mean... 998 00:42:52,111 --> 00:42:53,613 You said that with a straight face. 999 00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:56,074 Klingons are popular because they're fun. 1000 00:42:56,282 --> 00:42:59,035 Klingons allow us as non-klingons 1001 00:42:59,243 --> 00:43:01,579 to express a certain aspect of our personality, 1002 00:43:01,788 --> 00:43:04,332 I think, that we're not allowed to do in public. 1003 00:43:11,631 --> 00:43:15,551 I want to get the sour cream and chives potato. 1004 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,738 Would you like cheese on the super star or without? 1005 00:43:17,762 --> 00:43:19,514 - Without. - Without cheese? 1006 00:43:19,722 --> 00:43:20,890 This combo? 1007 00:43:21,099 --> 00:43:23,768 Okay, would you like that supersized for 39 cents more? 1008 00:43:23,976 --> 00:43:25,686 It's got a large fries and large drink. 1009 00:43:26,187 --> 00:43:29,065 - $9.56. - 16 to go, please, 16! 1010 00:43:29,273 --> 00:43:30,753 Have you ever served a klingon before? 1011 00:43:32,235 --> 00:43:33,778 - You've served klingons before? - Yes. 1012 00:43:42,370 --> 00:43:45,498 When I was six years old, January of 1989, 1013 00:43:45,706 --> 00:43:49,168 I attended my first convention, 1014 00:43:49,377 --> 00:43:53,339 and here is a picture from it. 1015 00:43:53,548 --> 00:43:55,299 One day, I was at home, 1016 00:43:55,508 --> 00:43:56,509 and I get a phone call, 1017 00:43:56,717 --> 00:43:58,970 and Gabriel at the time was six years old, 1018 00:43:59,178 --> 00:44:00,531 and the school calls me up and says, 1019 00:44:00,555 --> 00:44:02,348 "would you please come and pick up your son?" 1020 00:44:02,557 --> 00:44:04,677 I said, "well, what's the matter? Is he hurt or what?" 1021 00:44:04,767 --> 00:44:06,936 They said, "no. He happens to be wearing 1022 00:44:07,145 --> 00:44:09,981 his Star Trek uniform and his pointed Spock ears 1023 00:44:10,189 --> 00:44:11,189 and full makeup, 1024 00:44:11,357 --> 00:44:13,234 and I don't think this is the right attire 1025 00:44:13,442 --> 00:44:14,522 for him to wear at school." 1026 00:44:14,610 --> 00:44:17,113 It's a catholic... it was a catholic school, too. 1027 00:44:17,321 --> 00:44:19,407 So, they made me come and pick him up, 1028 00:44:19,615 --> 00:44:20,895 which I thought was pretty funny 1029 00:44:21,033 --> 00:44:23,053 and it took him years before he really could comprehend 1030 00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:25,037 that he wasn't supposed to go to school like that, 1031 00:44:25,163 --> 00:44:26,974 but that's the way life is when you're six years old. 1032 00:44:26,998 --> 00:44:29,625 Yeah, I was supposed to be wearing my plaid pants and tie. 1033 00:44:30,418 --> 00:44:31,562 Another interesting thing that... 1034 00:44:31,586 --> 00:44:33,171 Oh, for god's sakes! 1035 00:44:33,379 --> 00:44:35,779 - I'll get that, I'll get that. - You're the one... 1036 00:44:36,966 --> 00:44:39,006 Peter, this is the worst time you could have called! 1037 00:44:39,051 --> 00:44:40,219 Go away! 1038 00:44:40,428 --> 00:44:42,388 Okay, bye. 1039 00:44:44,807 --> 00:44:47,852 Around this entire section here, 1040 00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:50,146 we have my collection of 1041 00:44:50,354 --> 00:44:52,231 autographed Star Trek action figures, 1042 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,485 and over here I have the collection of the four captains. 1043 00:44:56,694 --> 00:45:00,031 This sisko here might look a bit messy 1044 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,075 because I shaved it with an x-acto knife 1045 00:45:03,284 --> 00:45:04,952 because of his new look this season 1046 00:45:05,161 --> 00:45:07,121 and painted on a goatee with model paint. 1047 00:45:07,538 --> 00:45:11,500 Over here I put up somewhat of a chart with my datas 1048 00:45:11,709 --> 00:45:14,378 illustrating the evolution of the uniforms 1049 00:45:14,587 --> 00:45:15,587 in the past few years. 1050 00:45:15,838 --> 00:45:18,174 We start out here with data 1051 00:45:18,382 --> 00:45:20,718 in the first/second season lycra jumpsuit, 1052 00:45:20,927 --> 00:45:23,596 which I heard caused the male actors back problems. 1053 00:45:23,804 --> 00:45:28,601 Then the third through seventh season two-piece uniform, 1054 00:45:28,809 --> 00:45:32,438 and then the generations jumpsuit version 1055 00:45:32,647 --> 00:45:37,068 and now the gray-shouldered first contact garbs, 1056 00:45:37,276 --> 00:45:39,487 which of course I am wearing now. 1057 00:45:39,695 --> 00:45:41,155 I normally dress up as data. 1058 00:45:41,364 --> 00:45:43,908 One lady thought that I was data and came up to me, 1059 00:45:44,116 --> 00:45:46,202 and she had her baby, and she kept... she was like, 1060 00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:48,371 "will you... Will you touch my baby?" 1061 00:45:48,621 --> 00:45:50,706 I've been asked to bless people. 1062 00:45:50,915 --> 00:45:54,377 One wanted me to sign the interior of his car. 1063 00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:55,753 To marry people. 1064 00:45:55,962 --> 00:45:58,464 "Oh, wow! He touched my baby! He touched my baby!“ 1065 00:45:58,673 --> 00:46:00,675 then she runs off screaming in the halls. 1066 00:46:00,883 --> 00:46:04,428 One wanted me to help him ease his way into death. 1067 00:46:04,637 --> 00:46:05,763 It was an odd request. 1068 00:46:05,972 --> 00:46:07,692 Maybe we should have told her I wasn't data. 1069 00:46:09,392 --> 00:46:13,062 J“ it's a beautiful day j“ 1070 00:46:13,854 --> 00:46:16,649 j“ ooh, we'll fly away I 1071 00:46:17,358 --> 00:46:18,901 j“ it's a beautiful day j“ 1072 00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:22,405 the Mark and Brian radio program, 95.5 klos. 1073 00:46:22,613 --> 00:46:23,948 All right, now, there is a, um, 1074 00:46:24,156 --> 00:46:25,717 Star Trek convention in town this weekend. 1075 00:46:25,741 --> 00:46:26,909 A lot of trekkies are here. 1076 00:46:27,118 --> 00:46:28,595 They're coming from all over the world. 1077 00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:30,663 In celebration of that group of people in town, 1078 00:46:30,871 --> 00:46:34,166 we, Mark and Brian, now give you the Star Trek theme. 1079 00:46:53,144 --> 00:46:54,729 There we go. 1080 00:46:54,937 --> 00:46:56,188 I'm a little dizzy now. 1081 00:46:56,397 --> 00:46:58,333 All right, we'll take a commercial break and return. 1082 00:46:58,357 --> 00:46:59,710 Do you have a favorite episode? 1083 00:46:59,734 --> 00:47:00,734 The original? 1084 00:47:01,861 --> 00:47:03,571 - Uh, well, of course... - The original. 1085 00:47:03,988 --> 00:47:05,698 - Okay. - Oh, look here, mister. 1086 00:47:05,906 --> 00:47:07,325 See, he shouldn't even be in this. 1087 00:47:07,533 --> 00:47:08,733 He doesn't even dig Star Trek. 1088 00:47:08,868 --> 00:47:10,411 I like Star Trek! I like it fine! 1089 00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:12,939 No! You're like, "who are those guys with the pointy ears?“ 1090 00:47:15,541 --> 00:47:17,251 Star Trek's a way of life, man. 1091 00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:19,587 It's a good way of life. It teaches us all. 1092 00:47:20,296 --> 00:47:22,673 This background here that you see was rendered by me. 1093 00:47:22,882 --> 00:47:26,927 It is the Nemesis station from star station Nemesis, 1094 00:47:27,136 --> 00:47:30,598 the film project that our club is working on at the moment. 1095 00:47:30,806 --> 00:47:34,060 This is the screenplay in its computer form. 1096 00:47:34,268 --> 00:47:35,728 This program is where it was written 1097 00:47:35,936 --> 00:47:38,522 and where all the modifications were made. 1098 00:47:38,731 --> 00:47:42,234 This script is basically the back story 1099 00:47:42,443 --> 00:47:44,153 that they've conceived for the club. 1100 00:47:44,362 --> 00:47:46,238 Then I translated the outline we wrote 1101 00:47:46,447 --> 00:47:50,117 into the 172-page screenplay. 1102 00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:51,911 What you're about to see here 1103 00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:56,290 are some of the fledgling opticals I've created. 1104 00:47:56,499 --> 00:47:59,126 As you can see, there's a considerable amount of detail 1105 00:47:59,335 --> 00:48:01,212 that went into it. 1106 00:48:01,587 --> 00:48:03,297 This is pan-up shot that I did, 1107 00:48:03,506 --> 00:48:04,506 and as you can see, 1108 00:48:04,673 --> 00:48:06,550 there's a little flickering around there 1109 00:48:06,759 --> 00:48:08,386 that I'm trying to get rid of. 1110 00:48:08,803 --> 00:48:10,603 One thing that I've been tinkering around with 1111 00:48:10,805 --> 00:48:12,973 is a romulan armada shot. 1112 00:48:13,182 --> 00:48:15,601 I rendered this sequence in two parts. 1113 00:48:15,810 --> 00:48:19,063 This is the logo for the trailer 1114 00:48:19,271 --> 00:48:21,482 for the movie that we're putting together to show at 1115 00:48:21,690 --> 00:48:23,526 not this coming meeting, but the next one. 1116 00:48:23,734 --> 00:48:26,445 Gabriel and Travis, our communications officer, 1117 00:48:26,654 --> 00:48:29,698 came up with the idea to start making a movie for our club. 1118 00:48:29,907 --> 00:48:31,617 Gabriel designed some new uniforms 1119 00:48:31,826 --> 00:48:33,452 specifically for the movie. 1120 00:48:36,539 --> 00:48:37,933 - Per your approval. - There's yours. 1121 00:48:37,957 --> 00:48:38,958 Now... 1122 00:48:43,379 --> 00:48:45,423 They're still... still in process. 1123 00:48:45,631 --> 00:48:48,175 Now you have to decide which one you're going to wear tomorrow. 1124 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,638 It will be a tough choice. 1125 00:48:52,847 --> 00:48:53,847 Wow. 1126 00:48:54,098 --> 00:48:57,143 This costume is the uniform that I've designed. 1127 00:48:57,351 --> 00:48:59,228 It came out of about 50 conceptual sketches, 1128 00:48:59,437 --> 00:49:01,147 and this is my favorite of them 1129 00:49:01,355 --> 00:49:02,995 from the film project that I'm working on, 1130 00:49:03,107 --> 00:49:05,067 and it should be noted that this is only 1131 00:49:05,276 --> 00:49:09,697 a prototypical version, and, uh... 1132 00:49:10,656 --> 00:49:13,325 The collar on the completed version will be 1133 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,995 come to about here, but it's... 1134 00:49:16,495 --> 00:49:18,038 She kind of cut short the collar a bit, 1135 00:49:18,247 --> 00:49:21,750 and it will have shoulder pads, and it will be all wool. 1136 00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:25,713 This has some wool components and some polyester components, 1137 00:49:25,921 --> 00:49:27,923 and overall I think the first version looks nice. 1138 00:49:28,132 --> 00:49:30,217 I've got a friend of mine that does custom tailoring, 1139 00:49:30,426 --> 00:49:32,428 so he does all my uniforms for me. 1140 00:49:32,678 --> 00:49:33,721 I have a dress uniform. 1141 00:49:33,929 --> 00:49:36,515 I've got just, like, a couple of the regular t-shirt tops 1142 00:49:36,724 --> 00:49:37,724 and things like that, 1143 00:49:37,892 --> 00:49:39,685 and this is one of the jumpsuits. 1144 00:49:39,935 --> 00:49:41,479 This is normal attire for me. 1145 00:49:42,271 --> 00:49:43,790 We don't feel like we look any different 1146 00:49:43,814 --> 00:49:44,814 than anyone else anymore, 1147 00:49:44,982 --> 00:49:46,817 because we've been doing it for so long. 1148 00:49:47,026 --> 00:49:49,528 In fact, sometimes after work I'll be leaving 1149 00:49:49,737 --> 00:49:51,614 and I 'ii have my uniform on. 1150 00:49:51,822 --> 00:49:53,425 People will be staring at me, and I'm like, 1151 00:49:53,449 --> 00:49:54,783 "what are they staring at me for?" 1152 00:49:54,992 --> 00:49:56,494 To me, it's just natural. 1153 00:49:57,077 --> 00:49:59,497 I go out a lot of times in the uniform, 1154 00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:01,624 and I find it a pretty positive thing. 1155 00:50:01,832 --> 00:50:05,085 Sometimes I 'ii get people that, they'll give me a smile, 1156 00:50:05,336 --> 00:50:06,545 they'll say something or 1157 00:50:06,754 --> 00:50:08,589 give me a Star Trek vulcan salute. 1158 00:50:08,797 --> 00:50:11,967 I've never had a negative experience, and I enjoy it. 1159 00:50:12,384 --> 00:50:13,511 On a couple of occasions, 1160 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,055 I've had people ask me something about, 1161 00:50:16,263 --> 00:50:17,741 "well, how long are you gonna do this?" 1162 00:50:17,765 --> 00:50:18,845 Or "why do you do all this? 1163 00:50:19,016 --> 00:50:20,351 "Don't you have a life for real?" 1164 00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,353 And this is part of my life for real. 1165 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:24,438 - Hi, Steve. - How you doing? 1166 00:50:24,647 --> 00:50:26,687 - All right. How are you today? - All right. 1167 00:50:27,942 --> 00:50:30,528 As long as I'm able to do it, I'm going to do it. 1168 00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:34,406 Doesn't hurt anybody, makes a lot of people feel good, 1169 00:50:34,865 --> 00:50:36,951 and I think that's sort of the point of things. 1170 00:50:37,701 --> 00:50:39,912 I'm going inside now to some of my favorite stores 1171 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,623 to search for new Star Trek memorabilia, 1172 00:50:42,831 --> 00:50:44,500 hard-to-get action figures, and the like. 1173 00:50:44,708 --> 00:50:48,796 You know, I spend around maybe three to 400 bucks a year 1174 00:50:49,004 --> 00:50:50,005 on Star Trek merchandise, 1175 00:50:50,214 --> 00:50:54,134 but if I could, I'd spend a lot more, about way over 1,000. 1176 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:57,346 The reality is Star Trek fans devote more time, 1177 00:50:57,555 --> 00:51:00,891 energy, and finance to their object of affection 1178 00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:02,820 than any other group of people in the world. 1179 00:51:03,018 --> 00:51:04,603 I am a die-hard Star Trek fan, 1180 00:51:04,812 --> 00:51:06,647 and I'm going all over the country 1181 00:51:06,855 --> 00:51:10,150 trying to get everything I can, before I die, of Star Trek. 1182 00:51:10,359 --> 00:51:12,152 This is the data "redemption," 1183 00:51:12,361 --> 00:51:13,654 the red playmates doll, 1184 00:51:13,862 --> 00:51:15,948 the one that's very rare and valuable, 1185 00:51:16,156 --> 00:51:17,992 and I got it for $25 at a convention, 1186 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,203 and now they're going for $250, $300, which... 1187 00:51:21,412 --> 00:51:22,871 Not that I'll ever sell mine. 1188 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,373 It's not for sale! 1189 00:51:24,582 --> 00:51:26,792 These dolls and things all have numbers on their feet, 1190 00:51:27,001 --> 00:51:28,586 and they look for the lowest number. 1191 00:51:29,044 --> 00:51:32,798 I'm about to do a valuable trade for these two figures 1192 00:51:33,007 --> 00:51:34,527 from the huntsville, Alabama convention 1193 00:51:34,717 --> 00:51:36,218 that go for about 100 bucks apiece 1194 00:51:36,427 --> 00:51:38,887 because they were limited to only 10,000, 1195 00:51:39,096 --> 00:51:43,017 for the equally rare Thomas riker figure 1196 00:51:43,225 --> 00:51:45,144 because I'm getting the better end of the deal 1197 00:51:45,352 --> 00:51:47,563 because the production number was a bit lower 1198 00:51:47,771 --> 00:51:50,774 and goes for considerably more 1199 00:51:50,983 --> 00:51:52,484 on the secondary market than this set. 1200 00:51:52,693 --> 00:51:54,337 - There you go. - These are from the convention? 1201 00:51:54,361 --> 00:51:55,505 These are from huntsville. 1202 00:51:55,529 --> 00:51:57,173 Huntsville, that's the only place you can get these, huh? 1203 00:51:57,197 --> 00:51:59,617 Yeah. And some were numbered over 10,000, 1204 00:51:59,825 --> 00:52:00,825 but that was a mistake. 1205 00:52:00,993 --> 00:52:02,393 They used parts from another figure. 1206 00:52:02,536 --> 00:52:03,621 Ah, interesting. 1207 00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:05,181 - Thank you. - Those were actually 1208 00:52:05,205 --> 00:52:06,485 the legs from "the cage" spocks. 1209 00:52:08,125 --> 00:52:09,418 How do you know all that? 1210 00:52:09,627 --> 00:52:11,545 Um, I... I'm on the Internet. 1211 00:52:11,754 --> 00:52:13,255 I'm keeping those for myself. 1212 00:52:14,590 --> 00:52:15,942 My folks used to get really mad 1213 00:52:15,966 --> 00:52:17,611 because I 'd just talk about it and talk about it 1214 00:52:17,635 --> 00:52:18,875 and talk about it all the time, 1215 00:52:18,969 --> 00:52:21,096 loving all the wonderful Star Trek stuff, 1216 00:52:21,305 --> 00:52:22,723 and here am I now, 27 years old, 1217 00:52:22,931 --> 00:52:24,933 and I still collect all these things, 1218 00:52:25,142 --> 00:52:26,222 and I love it just as much. 1219 00:52:26,393 --> 00:52:28,145 The super phaser target game. 1220 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,189 This was pretty hip for the early '705. 1221 00:52:30,397 --> 00:52:32,066 The Star Trek: The motion picture, 1222 00:52:32,274 --> 00:52:33,567 the pop-up book. 1223 00:52:33,776 --> 00:52:35,576 These were the hottest thing when I was a kid. 1224 00:52:35,611 --> 00:52:37,029 Taco bell was running this special, 1225 00:52:37,237 --> 00:52:41,116 and these are Star Trek 1984 drinking glasses, 1226 00:52:41,408 --> 00:52:44,036 and in 1989, they came out with Star Trek v, 1227 00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:46,705 and they had this special offer where you could send 1228 00:52:46,914 --> 00:52:49,124 for your futuristic marshmallow dispenser. 1229 00:52:49,333 --> 00:52:52,670 So I went ahead, and I sent for this thing, and here we go. 1230 00:52:52,878 --> 00:52:55,339 It's still intact. It's, like, mint in a bag. 1231 00:52:55,547 --> 00:52:57,424 All this stuff has, like, overtaken my house 1232 00:52:57,633 --> 00:52:58,633 in such a big way. 1233 00:52:59,134 --> 00:53:00,574 One of my goals is to actually build, 1234 00:53:00,636 --> 00:53:03,263 like, a great, big shelf 1235 00:53:03,472 --> 00:53:05,099 where I could actually display it. 1236 00:53:05,307 --> 00:53:06,642 That would be kind of neat. 1237 00:53:08,394 --> 00:53:11,063 When we first started doing the Star Trek cruises, 1238 00:53:11,271 --> 00:53:13,399 the fans came because they wanted to have 1239 00:53:13,607 --> 00:53:14,942 quality time with the stars. 1240 00:53:15,192 --> 00:53:18,696 Each fan has their picture taken with all of the stars 1241 00:53:18,904 --> 00:53:21,657 and Star Trek guest celebrities around them. 1242 00:53:21,865 --> 00:53:23,134 Tell me about the passport. 1243 00:53:23,158 --> 00:53:24,827 It looks like a us passport, 1244 00:53:25,035 --> 00:53:26,912 but obviously it says united federations of... 1245 00:53:27,287 --> 00:53:29,623 United federation of planets, and we filled it out. 1246 00:53:29,832 --> 00:53:32,584 It's sort of a thing you pick up at the conventions. 1247 00:53:32,793 --> 00:53:36,213 I went to Honduras and Belize, 1248 00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:39,258 and they just stamped me in. 1249 00:53:39,466 --> 00:53:43,679 In fact, I even have one... Scary... 1250 00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:45,639 Us immigration. 1251 00:53:45,848 --> 00:53:48,434 February 7th, 1994, they stamped me in. 1252 00:53:48,642 --> 00:53:51,645 Coming is Jimmy doohan's, Scotty's director's chair. 1253 00:53:51,937 --> 00:53:55,524 It's, uh, my wife is flying in with that today, and... 1254 00:53:55,733 --> 00:53:56,733 And that'll be for sale? 1255 00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:58,380 Yes, that's for sale. Here's the sign. 1256 00:53:58,569 --> 00:53:59,569 We have the sign, 1257 00:53:59,737 --> 00:54:01,715 - but we don't have the chair. - And that's worth what? 1258 00:54:01,739 --> 00:54:03,115 - $375. - Wow. 1259 00:54:03,323 --> 00:54:05,443 I don't know if it's worth that. We put a price on it. 1260 00:54:05,617 --> 00:54:07,703 We hope it's worth that. I don't know. 1261 00:54:07,911 --> 00:54:09,556 It's hard to put a price on something like that, 1262 00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:11,099 though, really. It's probably worth a million dollars. 1263 00:54:11,123 --> 00:54:12,123 Whatever you collect, 1264 00:54:12,291 --> 00:54:13,959 you can usually find it at conventions. 1265 00:54:14,168 --> 00:54:15,252 At a typical convention, 1266 00:54:15,461 --> 00:54:17,296 you'll find a plethora of dealer tables 1267 00:54:17,504 --> 00:54:19,631 selling a variety of Star Trek merchandise. 1268 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,135 Over here we have some gorgeous cardboard stand-ups. 1269 00:54:23,343 --> 00:54:24,703 I really must pick up one of these. 1270 00:54:24,887 --> 00:54:27,639 A nice collection of the various novels. 1271 00:54:27,848 --> 00:54:29,492 And there is a set of the figures right there 1272 00:54:29,516 --> 00:54:30,516 I just traded. 1273 00:54:30,684 --> 00:54:32,519 Star Trek ship diagrams and blueprints, 1274 00:54:32,728 --> 00:54:34,062 Star Trek related bookmarks, 1275 00:54:34,271 --> 00:54:35,397 Star Trek related jewelry, 1276 00:54:35,606 --> 00:54:37,107 and Star Trek uniform adornments, 1277 00:54:37,316 --> 00:54:39,985 Star Trek software, plates, cds, lithographs, 1278 00:54:40,194 --> 00:54:43,572 calendars, phasers, a good deal of the model kits. 1279 00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:46,200 I always love buying and building the model kits. 1280 00:54:46,867 --> 00:54:48,869 I've just been putting the finishing touches 1281 00:54:49,077 --> 00:54:50,329 on voyager here. 1282 00:54:50,537 --> 00:54:55,501 Of course, the nacelles fold, as you see on the series. 1283 00:54:55,793 --> 00:54:59,421 One little problem here is this is coming apart there. 1284 00:54:59,630 --> 00:55:01,715 I'm not... I don't think the voyager is supposed 1285 00:55:01,924 --> 00:55:03,258 to have saucer sep capability. 1286 00:55:03,717 --> 00:55:05,928 I became a dealer 'cause when I was younger, 1287 00:55:06,136 --> 00:55:08,013 I read a few too many conan books, 1288 00:55:08,222 --> 00:55:11,850 and I started to get interested in swords and armor, 1289 00:55:12,059 --> 00:55:13,352 learned how to make armor 1290 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,840 and got interested in weaponries. 1291 00:55:15,020 --> 00:55:16,605 And then we went to gun shows, 1292 00:55:16,814 --> 00:55:19,066 and we used to carry the armor on the table. 1293 00:55:19,274 --> 00:55:21,985 Then in about 1991, they came out with 1294 00:55:22,194 --> 00:55:24,655 the 25th anniversary Star Trek cards, 1295 00:55:24,863 --> 00:55:26,657 and I got all excited and went down 1296 00:55:26,865 --> 00:55:28,826 and bought a few too many boxes 1297 00:55:29,034 --> 00:55:31,495 and broke them all for sets, and I got my sets, 1298 00:55:31,703 --> 00:55:33,956 and then had all these sets left over. 1299 00:55:34,164 --> 00:55:36,124 So we took them to the gun show, 1300 00:55:36,333 --> 00:55:37,960 and I put them next to the armor, 1301 00:55:38,168 --> 00:55:39,586 and then all of them disappeared. 1302 00:55:39,795 --> 00:55:41,046 And they started asking me 1303 00:55:41,255 --> 00:55:43,549 for one of these and one of those. 1304 00:55:43,757 --> 00:55:46,969 And the armor started moving farther and farther 1305 00:55:47,177 --> 00:55:49,388 off the edge of the table, and now it's on the floor, 1306 00:55:49,596 --> 00:55:52,975 and these and those have taken over everything. 1307 00:55:53,517 --> 00:55:56,144 I'm working now with a company that is doing cookie jars. 1308 00:55:56,395 --> 00:55:58,772 They're 30th anniversary Star Trek cookie jars. 1309 00:55:58,981 --> 00:56:02,526 I've collected 759 autographs in about five years 1310 00:56:02,734 --> 00:56:03,854 of the Star Trek characters. 1311 00:56:03,944 --> 00:56:05,737 This is gonna be kind of like Christmas, 1312 00:56:05,946 --> 00:56:08,031 ripping open all these packages and stuff. 1313 00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:09,640 She just got me hooked on the cards. 1314 00:56:09,783 --> 00:56:11,201 I've just become addicted. 1315 00:56:11,535 --> 00:56:13,954 I told you, all you have to do is buy one pack. 1316 00:56:14,162 --> 00:56:16,402 You just buy one pack, and you're automatically addicted. 1317 00:56:17,082 --> 00:56:19,543 I've been in printing now for 11 years. 1318 00:56:20,043 --> 00:56:21,323 I work in the bindery department. 1319 00:56:21,503 --> 00:56:23,022 A lot of people do think she's strange, 1320 00:56:23,046 --> 00:56:24,566 and they'll say, "what kind of person is she, 1321 00:56:24,590 --> 00:56:25,590 you know, really?" 1322 00:56:25,757 --> 00:56:29,970 And honestly, she's very well-educated and intelligent. 1323 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:31,889 She takes her job responsibilities 1324 00:56:32,097 --> 00:56:33,097 very seriously. 1325 00:56:33,265 --> 00:56:34,391 She's a good worker. 1326 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,268 But I think a lot of people think 1327 00:56:36,476 --> 00:56:39,730 she's not very intelligent, whereas, really, she is. 1328 00:56:40,981 --> 00:56:43,692 Bobby is a little bit eccentric, 1329 00:56:43,901 --> 00:56:46,737 but it's a good quality kind of eccentricity. 1330 00:56:46,945 --> 00:56:48,882 The customers do think it's a little bit strange sometimes, 1331 00:56:48,906 --> 00:56:50,106 but they get a kick out of it. 1332 00:56:50,282 --> 00:56:52,284 Everyone's got their... Their quirks, 1333 00:56:52,492 --> 00:56:56,121 and we just work around and with those. 1334 00:56:58,624 --> 00:56:59,904 When I first came into the shop, 1335 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,170 I was going around meeting everyone and getting names, 1336 00:57:03,378 --> 00:57:08,091 and I got to Bobby, and they said, "this is the commander." 1337 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:11,511 Commander, do we have enough of that 80-pound rich gloss 1338 00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,013 for tippen's calendar? 1339 00:57:13,221 --> 00:57:14,574 23 by 35. 1340 00:57:14,598 --> 00:57:15,598 - Okay. - Yeah. 1341 00:57:15,766 --> 00:57:16,910 - Thank you. - Mm-hmm. 1342 00:57:16,934 --> 00:57:18,244 - Commander. - Yes? 1343 00:57:18,268 --> 00:57:20,330 Which job is that? 1344 00:57:20,354 --> 00:57:21,706 When she first came to work here 1345 00:57:21,730 --> 00:57:22,898 and I called her girlfriend, 1346 00:57:23,106 --> 00:57:25,734 she made some comment that she didn't really like that, 1347 00:57:25,943 --> 00:57:27,837 and I said, "well, what would you prefer I call you?" 1348 00:57:27,861 --> 00:57:29,404 I said, "my rank is commander. 1349 00:57:29,613 --> 00:57:30,906 I'm a lieutenant commander." 1350 00:57:31,114 --> 00:57:33,575 She said, "oh! Commander. That's what I'll call you." 1351 00:57:33,784 --> 00:57:34,785 When I asked her why, 1352 00:57:34,993 --> 00:57:36,512 she started telling me all about this Star Trek 1353 00:57:36,536 --> 00:57:37,663 that she was into big time, 1354 00:57:37,871 --> 00:57:41,458 and she was commander of some spaceship here locally. 1355 00:57:42,501 --> 00:57:44,145 Did she explain what these things were 1356 00:57:44,169 --> 00:57:45,170 that she was wearing? 1357 00:57:45,379 --> 00:57:47,023 Yes, but don't ask me what they are. 1358 00:57:47,047 --> 00:57:49,508 One's a phaser, and it beams her up, 1359 00:57:49,716 --> 00:57:52,970 and the other's something else. 1360 00:57:53,178 --> 00:57:54,948 I've never gotten any negative response from it, 1361 00:57:54,972 --> 00:57:57,766 and some of our customers, especially since the trial, 1362 00:57:57,975 --> 00:58:00,560 I think recognize me, but they don't usually say anything. 1363 00:58:00,769 --> 00:58:03,355 Has it encouraged you to watch Star Trek some more? 1364 00:58:03,563 --> 00:58:04,856 Actually, yes, actually, yes. 1365 00:58:05,065 --> 00:58:06,274 I seldom ever watch Star Trek. 1366 00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:07,752 Only because you want to understand 1367 00:58:07,776 --> 00:58:10,112 - what I'm talking about. - Yeah, some of it. 1368 00:58:10,779 --> 00:58:12,447 And I'm really not a Star Trek fan, 1369 00:58:12,656 --> 00:58:14,658 but I get into it because she's into it. 1370 00:58:15,659 --> 00:58:19,037 In my favorite fan letter, I received... 1371 00:58:19,246 --> 00:58:22,082 I opened it up, and there was a marijuana cigarette 1372 00:58:22,290 --> 00:58:24,418 glued to a piece of cardboard 1373 00:58:25,335 --> 00:58:30,465 and a photo of a very delightful-looking young girl. 1374 00:58:31,174 --> 00:58:36,471 And she said, "you have turned me on so many times, 1375 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,849 I thought I would return the favor." 1376 00:58:42,686 --> 00:58:43,812 I kept that one. 1377 00:58:45,355 --> 00:58:48,817 I've saved some pretty great stuff the fans have sent me. 1378 00:58:49,026 --> 00:58:50,318 These are ink drawings. 1379 00:58:50,527 --> 00:58:54,239 Chekov, captain picard, saavik, Dr. Crusher. 1380 00:58:54,448 --> 00:58:56,158 A woman named Jean kluge, 1381 00:58:56,366 --> 00:58:59,828 she drew me in a kind of Davy Crockett motif. 1382 00:59:00,037 --> 00:59:02,873 This is from blowing rock, north Carolina. 1383 00:59:03,749 --> 00:59:05,917 Tasha and sela together again. 1384 00:59:06,126 --> 00:59:08,003 This is a kind of king Arthur, 1385 00:59:08,211 --> 00:59:10,172 knights of the round table motif. 1386 00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:12,591 Sela, looking tough. 1387 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:15,177 A lot of times, kids send me things. 1388 00:59:15,427 --> 00:59:17,429 Nice lucite box they sent it to me in. 1389 00:59:17,637 --> 00:59:21,141 This is Tasha done in needlepoint. 1390 00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:23,060 It is, I think, my favorite. 1391 00:59:23,268 --> 00:59:27,147 This is a very imaginative pose. 1392 00:59:27,355 --> 00:59:29,649 At first, I gotta tell you, I was actually shocked, 1393 00:59:29,858 --> 00:59:33,612 and then I kind of really have grown to appreciate it. 1394 00:59:34,821 --> 00:59:36,823 What was weird to me when I first... when I saw 1395 00:59:37,032 --> 00:59:40,452 the first one was not just how they got my naked body perfect, 1396 00:59:40,660 --> 00:59:42,220 I mean, it was just a perfect rendition, 1397 00:59:42,329 --> 00:59:44,289 but yours was almost specific. 1398 00:59:44,498 --> 00:59:46,792 I mean, it... 1399 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,502 Are you... are you filming? 1400 00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:50,378 Star Trek is unique in that 1401 00:59:50,587 --> 00:59:52,506 we are the only television show 1402 00:59:52,714 --> 00:59:55,175 that has an open-script submission policy. 1403 00:59:55,383 --> 00:59:57,803 We will take scripts from anyone in the world. 1404 00:59:58,011 --> 01:00:01,389 I once had a fan come in dressed in a starfleet uniform, 1405 01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:04,434 who was calling himself ensign Jones, 1406 01:00:04,643 --> 01:00:05,912 and all of his stories, of course, 1407 01:00:05,936 --> 01:00:08,313 had to do with ensign Jones 1408 01:00:08,522 --> 01:00:09,898 taking control of the enterprise, 1409 01:00:10,107 --> 01:00:13,693 or ensign Jones goes to the klingon home world, 1410 01:00:13,902 --> 01:00:15,320 or en... stuff like that. 1411 01:00:15,529 --> 01:00:17,197 Ensign Jones travels through time. 1412 01:00:17,489 --> 01:00:20,951 I write in the original trek genre, 1413 01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:23,787 involving the characters of kirk and Spock. 1414 01:00:23,995 --> 01:00:26,206 I write slash that appears on the Internet. 1415 01:00:26,414 --> 01:00:28,375 You're talking about the k/s zines. 1416 01:00:28,583 --> 01:00:30,585 The kirk/spock fetish groups. 1417 01:00:30,794 --> 01:00:33,797 The term means one character with another, 1418 01:00:34,005 --> 01:00:35,507 like kirk "slash" Spock. 1419 01:00:35,715 --> 01:00:37,384 We thought that either gene or the studio 1420 01:00:37,592 --> 01:00:38,592 would put a stop to it, 1421 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,012 but the studio never really seemed to care 1422 01:00:41,221 --> 01:00:43,140 because we're talking very small circulations. 1423 01:00:43,348 --> 01:00:46,101 We're all very normal ladies, mostly housewives. 1424 01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:49,271 Who want to read sexual stories about kirk and Spock 1425 01:00:49,479 --> 01:00:51,199 but don't want to see them with other women. 1426 01:00:51,356 --> 01:00:54,276 The mailing list I'm on is completely anonymous. 1427 01:00:54,484 --> 01:00:58,155 Why is it important that your identity not be revealed? 1428 01:00:58,363 --> 01:01:00,532 Because of the controversial nature. 1429 01:01:00,740 --> 01:01:04,286 We're living in a culture that isn't as progressive, 1430 01:01:04,494 --> 01:01:07,164 so it's important to avoid censure. 1431 01:01:07,372 --> 01:01:09,916 I write the secret logs of mistress janewa y. 1432 01:01:10,125 --> 01:01:12,043 This is a story about mistress janeway 1433 01:01:12,252 --> 01:01:14,129 and how she ties up ensign Kim 1434 01:01:14,337 --> 01:01:16,506 and beats tuvok with a riding crop. 1435 01:01:16,715 --> 01:01:18,515 That was quite... That was rather interesting. 1436 01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:19,551 A fan made this. 1437 01:01:19,759 --> 01:01:23,972 He sculpted it out of an X-Men figure, repainted it, 1438 01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:27,809 complete with a whip, cat-o'-nine-tails, handcuffs. 1439 01:01:28,059 --> 01:01:30,520 Another fan wrote a klingon sex manual. 1440 01:01:30,729 --> 01:01:33,023 "There's no such thing as safe sex in klingon," 1441 01:01:33,231 --> 01:01:35,400 "how to tell if your daughter is seeing a klingon," 1442 01:01:35,609 --> 01:01:38,153 "meeting your klingon, initiating the mating ritual." 1443 01:01:38,361 --> 01:01:40,739 Worf and I went up, and I pushed him, he pushed me back. 1444 01:01:40,947 --> 01:01:43,074 We started wrestling. And it's understood that 1445 01:01:43,283 --> 01:01:44,683 that is part of the klingon culture. 1446 01:01:44,784 --> 01:01:46,424 The female pushing a man or slapping a man 1447 01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:48,431 is considered like, "hey, I want to go out with you. 1448 01:01:48,455 --> 01:01:49,455 "I find you attractive." 1449 01:01:55,295 --> 01:01:57,190 I don't have it with me anymore, I threw it away, 1450 01:01:57,214 --> 01:02:00,634 but they had made from latex a klingon condom. 1451 01:02:00,842 --> 01:02:02,052 It was ridged. 1452 01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:03,637 It had like big ridges and stuff. 1453 01:02:03,929 --> 01:02:06,514 There are now thousands of k/s zines out there. 1454 01:02:06,723 --> 01:02:08,725 There's... it's way too late to stop it. 1455 01:02:09,017 --> 01:02:10,977 My name is Daryl frazetti, this is bones, 1456 01:02:11,186 --> 01:02:12,604 and we've gone to about a dozen 1457 01:02:12,812 --> 01:02:14,564 Star Trek conventions together. 1458 01:02:14,773 --> 01:02:15,857 I do that with him mainly 1459 01:02:16,066 --> 01:02:17,776 because he enters the costume contests, 1460 01:02:17,984 --> 01:02:21,196 and it's something fun for both of us to do together. 1461 01:02:21,404 --> 01:02:23,524 We have a lot of fun doing it with the people we meet. 1462 01:02:23,657 --> 01:02:27,077 He's got his little med kit right here, his props. 1463 01:02:27,285 --> 01:02:30,247 This is the original trek scrub top, 1464 01:02:30,455 --> 01:02:33,041 and this is the science insignia 1465 01:02:33,250 --> 01:02:36,670 and his deforest kelley pin that he always wears for luck. 1466 01:02:37,379 --> 01:02:39,923 We're probably bigger classic trek fans 1467 01:02:40,131 --> 01:02:41,251 than any of the other shows, 1468 01:02:41,341 --> 01:02:43,802 and deforest kelley happens to be our favorite actor. 1469 01:02:44,261 --> 01:02:45,988 He will sit there and he'll watch television. 1470 01:02:46,012 --> 01:02:48,723 Some cats will sit there and watch television. Um. 1471 01:02:48,932 --> 01:02:50,660 Some of them actually even respond to the phasers 1472 01:02:50,684 --> 01:02:52,978 or some of the ships going by on the screen, as well. 1473 01:02:53,728 --> 01:02:55,313 We're here for this convention, 1474 01:02:55,522 --> 01:02:57,941 and we're old friends who met because of Star Trek, 1475 01:02:58,149 --> 01:02:59,818 and we're having a 13-year reunion. 1476 01:03:00,026 --> 01:03:02,821 First time we've been together, the four of us in 13 years. 1477 01:03:03,029 --> 01:03:06,408 We're so divergent in personality, in backgrounds, 1478 01:03:06,616 --> 01:03:08,785 in our family styles and everything, 1479 01:03:08,994 --> 01:03:11,705 and yet, we have this common thread of Star Trek, 1480 01:03:11,913 --> 01:03:13,373 which keeps us together. 1481 01:03:13,581 --> 01:03:15,959 Remember when the first convention we went to, 1482 01:03:16,626 --> 01:03:18,545 we'd forgotten what it was like. 1483 01:03:18,753 --> 01:03:19,897 And we were at the convention, 1484 01:03:19,921 --> 01:03:21,047 and we were all accepted. 1485 01:03:21,256 --> 01:03:22,776 And when we left and we went back home, 1486 01:03:22,924 --> 01:03:24,004 we had to act normal again. 1487 01:03:25,385 --> 01:03:27,637 I think if there's one thing in this world 1488 01:03:27,846 --> 01:03:31,850 that I will take to my grave with me forever is the fans. 1489 01:03:32,058 --> 01:03:33,893 They are so loving, and they are so warm, 1490 01:03:34,102 --> 01:03:35,186 and they are so tender, 1491 01:03:35,395 --> 01:03:38,023 and if you go some place, like into a convention, 1492 01:03:38,231 --> 01:03:39,816 and you don't have any friends there, 1493 01:03:40,025 --> 01:03:42,277 you don't know anybody there, you really do 1494 01:03:42,485 --> 01:03:44,946 because they're all thinking, somewhere along the line, 1495 01:03:45,155 --> 01:03:46,656 they're thinking like you are. 1496 01:03:46,865 --> 01:03:49,534 My family thinks I'm the odd one of the family. 1497 01:03:49,743 --> 01:03:51,786 They think I'm totally weird, 1498 01:03:51,995 --> 01:03:53,038 but I found this club, 1499 01:03:53,246 --> 01:03:54,748 and I found out I'm not the only one, 1500 01:03:54,956 --> 01:03:57,667 so I guess I'm not so weird after all. 1501 01:03:57,876 --> 01:04:00,086 It's really great to go to a convention, 1502 01:04:00,295 --> 01:04:01,546 and it's like a family reunion. 1503 01:04:01,755 --> 01:04:03,423 My wife is here, and she and I met, 1504 01:04:03,631 --> 01:04:05,091 actually, in a Star Trek club. 1505 01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:07,020 I know a lot of people from around the state 1506 01:04:07,177 --> 01:04:09,804 that I would have never met unless I joined this club. 1507 01:04:10,013 --> 01:04:12,015 So it's meeting people. I t's about people. 1508 01:04:12,223 --> 01:04:14,309 What we do is we usually set up a recruiting table 1509 01:04:14,517 --> 01:04:17,354 so that we can get new members to join the organization. 1510 01:04:17,562 --> 01:04:19,814 Recruitment happens every waking moment. 1511 01:04:20,023 --> 01:04:21,858 Every time you see one of us either in uniform 1512 01:04:22,067 --> 01:04:23,360 or out on the street, 1513 01:04:23,568 --> 01:04:25,904 if our mouth is open and breath comes forth, 1514 01:04:26,112 --> 01:04:27,112 we're recruiting. 1515 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,866 We belong to two international fan clubs, 1516 01:04:30,075 --> 01:04:32,327 the united federation of planets international 1517 01:04:32,535 --> 01:04:34,037 and the romulan star empire. 1518 01:04:34,245 --> 01:04:35,288 I am Linda Thuringer. 1519 01:04:35,497 --> 01:04:40,794 I'm the captain, and my romulan name is efa tilavet, 1520 01:04:41,127 --> 01:04:43,254 and I am the commander of the praetorian guard 1521 01:04:43,463 --> 01:04:44,798 for the romulan star empire. 1522 01:04:45,590 --> 01:04:47,092 Steve menaugh. 1523 01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:48,593 I'm the first officer, 1524 01:04:48,802 --> 01:04:51,304 and my romulan name is menhaltra laheron, 1525 01:04:51,513 --> 01:04:53,890 and I'm the subcommander of the praetorian guard. 1526 01:04:54,099 --> 01:04:56,059 I am the security chief for the Nemesis station, 1527 01:04:56,267 --> 01:04:59,145 and I'm also a member of romulan star empire. 1528 01:04:59,354 --> 01:05:00,605 My name is Terry stenoe. 1529 01:05:00,814 --> 01:05:03,608 I'm the chief medical officer on the Nemesis station. 1530 01:05:03,817 --> 01:05:06,694 I thought at first that I was a little afraid to come 1531 01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:09,322 to my first meeting, but it was just a lot of fun. 1532 01:05:09,531 --> 01:05:12,867 But the thing is about this group is that it is unique. 1533 01:05:13,076 --> 01:05:15,357 I think people are really educated that are in this group. 1534 01:05:15,495 --> 01:05:16,830 They know a lot about science, 1535 01:05:17,038 --> 01:05:19,038 they know a lot about what's going on in the world, 1536 01:05:19,124 --> 01:05:20,764 and it's neat to be with people like that. 1537 01:05:20,875 --> 01:05:23,586 I think it's really fun because you can, um, 1538 01:05:24,337 --> 01:05:26,714 because it's the only place that I can think of 1539 01:05:26,923 --> 01:05:30,135 that you can goof off, and grownups goof off 1540 01:05:30,343 --> 01:05:32,023 the same way and about the same acceptance. 1541 01:05:35,932 --> 01:05:37,767 - Are you a trekkie? - Totally. 1542 01:05:37,976 --> 01:05:38,976 How do you say "trekkie"? 1543 01:05:39,144 --> 01:05:40,228 Lengwi' is a trekkie. 1544 01:05:40,437 --> 01:05:41,521 Lengwi' jih. 1545 01:05:41,729 --> 01:05:43,356 Lengwi'jih means "I'm a trekkie." 1546 01:05:43,565 --> 01:05:44,565 "I'm a traveler," 1547 01:05:44,732 --> 01:05:46,377 is really what that means, but close enough. 1548 01:05:46,401 --> 01:05:48,401 - Are you a trekkie? - Yeah, I'd say I am. 1549 01:05:48,570 --> 01:05:50,947 I am a trekkie. Not card-carrying. 1550 01:05:51,156 --> 01:05:54,033 I'm not the kind that wears uniforms all the time. 1551 01:05:54,242 --> 01:05:55,442 He is a card-carrying trekkie. 1552 01:05:55,618 --> 01:05:58,329 He has a credit card that says Star Trek on it. 1553 01:05:59,539 --> 01:06:01,916 At times, I'm a trekkie, and other times, I'm a trekker. 1554 01:06:02,125 --> 01:06:06,421 Every serious fan considers themself a trekker. 1555 01:06:06,629 --> 01:06:08,923 Trekkie versus trekker. I don't even know what that is. 1556 01:06:09,132 --> 01:06:11,509 It's a generational-type thing. 1557 01:06:11,718 --> 01:06:15,930 The trekkie is the... Either saw old Star Trek 1558 01:06:16,139 --> 01:06:19,267 when it first came out or started in with the reruns 1559 01:06:19,476 --> 01:06:20,643 early in the '705. 1560 01:06:20,852 --> 01:06:23,771 The trekker is primarily someone who started in 1561 01:06:23,980 --> 01:06:26,232 with next generation or iv. 1562 01:06:26,441 --> 01:06:28,776 Trekkers seem to be, like, snobs. 1563 01:06:28,985 --> 01:06:30,862 "I'm not a trekkie, I'm a trekker." 1564 01:06:31,154 --> 01:06:32,631 "Trekker" sounds a little pretentious, 1565 01:06:32,655 --> 01:06:34,574 but at least it's preferable. 1566 01:06:34,782 --> 01:06:36,826 A trekker is, in fact, a star-trekker. 1567 01:06:37,035 --> 01:06:38,953 They are walking with us, right? 1568 01:06:39,162 --> 01:06:40,497 The trekker is motivated. 1569 01:06:40,705 --> 01:06:42,123 The trekker is in motion. 1570 01:06:42,332 --> 01:06:47,629 The trekkie is a sort of neutral, benign, harmless viewer 1571 01:06:47,921 --> 01:06:49,088 who just wants to watch. 1572 01:06:49,297 --> 01:06:50,548 I am a trekkie. 1573 01:06:50,757 --> 01:06:54,010 Actually, we're called trekkens, but, yeah, I am a trekkie. 1574 01:06:54,219 --> 01:06:55,219 Are we gonna take a trek? 1575 01:06:55,386 --> 01:06:57,388 We're not a couple of trekkies, right? 1576 01:06:57,597 --> 01:06:59,450 - Right. - Then we're watching the trek. 1577 01:06:59,474 --> 01:07:01,074 But the trekker, then, is coming with us. 1578 01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:03,520 A trekker is somebody who enjoys Star Trek. 1579 01:07:03,728 --> 01:07:05,939 They probably have a small collection at home. 1580 01:07:06,147 --> 01:07:10,568 They're really into it, they go to Star Trek conventions, 1581 01:07:10,777 --> 01:07:12,817 and sometimes they'll dress up and things like that. 1582 01:07:12,946 --> 01:07:17,367 A trekkie, they live their life according to Star Trek laws. 1583 01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:19,077 I myself prefer "trekker," 1584 01:07:19,285 --> 01:07:21,162 but I'm not quite as adamant about it 1585 01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:23,164 as some of the other fans out there. 1586 01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:25,333 I don't really like the trekkie/trekker labels 1587 01:07:25,542 --> 01:07:27,627 because there's so much negative 1588 01:07:27,835 --> 01:07:29,546 connotations associated with that. 1589 01:07:29,754 --> 01:07:31,965 You say, "I'm a trekker," and then people just start 1590 01:07:32,173 --> 01:07:34,092 making all the rude comments, et cetera, 1591 01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:37,303 so I'd rather, you know, be known as a spiner femme. 1592 01:07:37,512 --> 01:07:40,306 I usually just refer to myself as a Star Trek fan 1593 01:07:40,515 --> 01:07:44,561 and just forget about this whole trekkie/trekker debacle. 1594 01:07:45,645 --> 01:07:48,314 I met William shatner the first time on the tonight show. 1595 01:07:48,523 --> 01:07:49,983 I was fortunate enough 1596 01:07:50,191 --> 01:07:51,751 to get the name of the casting director, 1597 01:07:51,818 --> 01:07:53,278 and I sent her a package 1598 01:07:53,486 --> 01:07:55,738 and found out that within a couple weeks 1599 01:07:55,947 --> 01:07:59,117 after I sent that package that he was due to be a guest. 1600 01:07:59,534 --> 01:08:01,637 They wanted me to come on and do a quick spot with him, 1601 01:08:01,661 --> 01:08:03,021 which we did, and it was great fun. 1602 01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:04,664 He was a perfect gentleman to me. 1603 01:08:04,872 --> 01:08:07,041 My name is James kirk. Um. 1604 01:08:07,250 --> 01:08:10,128 I changed my name because ever since I was little, 1605 01:08:10,753 --> 01:08:12,022 I always wanted to change my name 1606 01:08:12,046 --> 01:08:14,632 to something I would enjoy, I would like, 1607 01:08:15,091 --> 01:08:17,927 something more befitting, you know, my character. 1608 01:08:18,136 --> 01:08:21,055 I've had a lot of ridicule, but I've had a lot of positive. 1609 01:08:21,264 --> 01:08:22,348 A lot of people go, 1610 01:08:22,557 --> 01:08:25,143 "I wish I had the guts to do something like that 1611 01:08:25,351 --> 01:08:27,020 or... or just... 1612 01:08:27,228 --> 01:08:29,480 Change it to something I would be pleased with." 1613 01:08:29,689 --> 01:08:33,151 I go, "you can. You can do anything you want in life." 1614 01:08:33,484 --> 01:08:35,278 I am with the starship riverside 1615 01:08:35,486 --> 01:08:36,779 from riverside, Iowa. 1616 01:08:36,988 --> 01:08:39,115 It's a small town that's become famous 1617 01:08:39,324 --> 01:08:42,702 because in the movies, kirk actually says he's from Iowa. 1618 01:08:43,036 --> 01:08:45,163 About approximately 12 years ago, 1619 01:08:45,371 --> 01:08:46,664 riverside proclaimed the right 1620 01:08:46,914 --> 01:08:50,126 to be the future birthplace of captain James t. Kirk, 1621 01:08:50,335 --> 01:08:52,587 and so far, it's been a big boon to the town. 1622 01:08:52,795 --> 01:08:54,631 We have our Star Trek fest 1623 01:08:54,839 --> 01:08:57,508 the last Saturday of every June. 1624 01:08:58,426 --> 01:09:02,180 We get anywhere from three, to maybe 6,000 people to town. 1625 01:09:02,388 --> 01:09:04,932 We have a parade, a carnival, a contest. 1626 01:09:05,725 --> 01:09:08,311 It's just... just really a boon to the town. 1627 01:09:11,356 --> 01:09:13,417 - Jimmy, my boy, Jimmy! - Happy birthday! 1628 01:09:13,441 --> 01:09:15,818 We've been having this party now for years. 1629 01:09:16,027 --> 01:09:17,027 It seems like every year, 1630 01:09:17,195 --> 01:09:18,696 it gets to be a little bit more fun 1631 01:09:18,905 --> 01:09:20,698 and a couple more people come. 1632 01:09:20,907 --> 01:09:22,659 You know, it started off small, 1633 01:09:22,867 --> 01:09:25,244 and now the younger people are coming, 1634 01:09:25,453 --> 01:09:28,915 and this year, we had a girl come and everything, 1635 01:09:29,123 --> 01:09:31,626 so, you know, I just foresee it going on and on. 1636 01:09:31,834 --> 01:09:33,937 It's just kind of a fun bonding thing we do out here. 1637 01:09:33,961 --> 01:09:37,674 Every year, I whip up my world-famous romulan concoction. 1638 01:09:37,882 --> 01:09:39,592 I won't reveal the ingredients. 1639 01:09:39,801 --> 01:09:41,195 You know, I like the vulcan. 1640 01:09:41,219 --> 01:09:43,429 The vulcan's a very logical person. 1641 01:09:43,638 --> 01:09:47,058 T hat's why I like Spock, and he's very logical, 1642 01:09:47,266 --> 01:09:49,852 and with the conventions that we go to, 1643 01:09:50,061 --> 01:09:51,646 there's a lot of klingons. 1644 01:09:51,854 --> 01:09:53,294 And being a vulcan, it's kind of nice 1645 01:09:53,356 --> 01:09:55,191 to kind of stand out in that way, 1646 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,402 and, you know, the vulcans are obviously 1647 01:09:57,610 --> 01:09:59,487 a lot bit smarter than the klingons as well. 1648 01:10:04,951 --> 01:10:07,745 I drove down from calgary today to take a look 1649 01:10:07,954 --> 01:10:09,497 at the starship enterprise, 1650 01:10:09,706 --> 01:10:12,917 the model that we have here in vulcan, alberta. 1651 01:10:13,126 --> 01:10:14,711 I'm really impressed with, uh, 1652 01:10:14,919 --> 01:10:16,504 the beautiful job they've done on it, 1653 01:10:16,796 --> 01:10:19,257 and I think it's really great that here in Canada, 1654 01:10:19,465 --> 01:10:23,636 the town of vulcan has adopted the Star Trek theme. 1655 01:10:23,845 --> 01:10:28,057 We really enjoy having people from all over the world 1656 01:10:28,266 --> 01:10:31,018 to talk with and share with us their stories of Star Trek 1657 01:10:31,227 --> 01:10:33,067 and the things that they've been involved with. 1658 01:10:33,229 --> 01:10:34,605 I'm visiting vulcan today 1659 01:10:34,814 --> 01:10:36,858 because of the Star Trek convention. 1660 01:10:37,066 --> 01:10:38,776 Obviously, it's a vulcan community. 1661 01:10:38,985 --> 01:10:42,697 My heroes are Spock and t uvok and Spock's father. 1662 01:10:42,905 --> 01:10:45,783 Some people have fake or phony Spock ears, 1663 01:10:46,284 --> 01:10:48,369 but I have the real thing. 1664 01:10:50,496 --> 01:10:53,583 It's been a... as you can imagine, 1665 01:10:53,791 --> 01:10:58,463 30 years of amazing experiences, one after another. 1666 01:10:58,671 --> 01:11:00,423 I was at a party once many years ago 1667 01:11:00,631 --> 01:11:02,300 that Paramount was giving, 1668 01:11:02,508 --> 01:11:04,588 a big promotional party for a number of their movies, 1669 01:11:04,761 --> 01:11:06,739 and all of the stars of these various films were there, 1670 01:11:06,763 --> 01:11:08,139 and I was invited. 1671 01:11:08,347 --> 01:11:10,587 The place was packed with people, and it was in New York, 1672 01:11:10,725 --> 01:11:13,436 and I felt a pair of hands on my shoulder. 1673 01:11:13,644 --> 01:11:17,857 And, um, somebody whispered into my ear and said, 1674 01:11:18,065 --> 01:11:22,153 "I recognize you. You had your ears fixed.“ 1675 01:11:22,361 --> 01:11:23,361 and it was John Wayne. 1676 01:11:26,908 --> 01:11:28,868 Everybody was doing ear jokes in those days. 1677 01:11:29,076 --> 01:11:31,829 Oh, god. 1678 01:11:32,580 --> 01:11:34,207 I got a kick out of that, it was fun. 1679 01:11:34,832 --> 01:11:39,670 There is a great deal of my personality that is Mr. Spock. 1680 01:11:39,879 --> 01:11:42,298 I try to function on logic and intelligence 1681 01:11:42,507 --> 01:11:45,384 and not get carried away with emotion. 1682 01:11:45,635 --> 01:11:48,137 I do consider myself, as I say, half vulcan. 1683 01:11:48,346 --> 01:11:50,932 I did draw the line, though, at having my ears 1684 01:11:51,140 --> 01:11:54,310 surgically altered to points. 1685 01:11:54,519 --> 01:11:56,020 It was just too expensive. 1686 01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:58,356 But I'll tell you... I'll tell you the real truth. 1687 01:12:02,568 --> 01:12:04,821 If I had the money, I would do it. 1688 01:12:05,238 --> 01:12:08,199 I don't march to the regular drummer. 1689 01:12:08,407 --> 01:12:09,676 You would go through the pain 1690 01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:10,868 of having your s... your ears 1691 01:12:11,077 --> 01:12:12,837 - surgically altered? - Yeah, I really would. 1692 01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:15,456 And it's not so much... 1693 01:12:15,915 --> 01:12:17,333 Yeah, I really would. 1694 01:12:17,542 --> 01:12:20,419 - I... I like to be different. - Mm-hm. 1695 01:12:20,628 --> 01:12:24,257 And this is a unique way of being different, 1696 01:12:24,465 --> 01:12:25,800 and it's a noninvasive, 1697 01:12:26,008 --> 01:12:28,553 nonharmful way of being different. 1698 01:12:28,761 --> 01:12:31,013 And even if I have pointed ears, 1699 01:12:31,222 --> 01:12:33,933 I can still function in the world in whatever I do. 1700 01:12:34,141 --> 01:12:35,977 It just makes me that much more different, 1701 01:12:36,185 --> 01:12:38,271 and I would think in a positive way. 1702 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:39,689 But I don't think I'll be out, 1703 01:12:39,897 --> 01:12:41,357 you know, getting it tomorrow. 1704 01:12:41,566 --> 01:12:43,109 I would hope he couldn't find a doctor 1705 01:12:43,317 --> 01:12:46,445 who'd be willing to do that, personally. 1706 01:12:47,029 --> 01:12:48,197 This is computer. 1707 01:12:48,948 --> 01:12:51,158 This is... hi, hi, computer. 1708 01:12:51,492 --> 01:12:52,492 This is my dog. 1709 01:12:52,660 --> 01:12:55,913 All the stuff that Star Trek predicted is all coming true. 1710 01:12:56,122 --> 01:12:58,249 The talking computers, I mean, computers are better 1711 01:12:58,457 --> 01:13:00,097 now than they were in the original series. 1712 01:13:00,293 --> 01:13:02,587 There are people that are intrigued by 1713 01:13:02,795 --> 01:13:05,673 the speculative technology on Star Trek. 1714 01:13:05,882 --> 01:13:07,609 You know, my buddies would have Cheryl tiegs, 1715 01:13:07,633 --> 01:13:09,873 Freddie Mercury, Farrah fawcett posters in their bedroom. 1716 01:13:10,136 --> 01:13:11,971 I had the blueprints for the enterprise. 1717 01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:14,765 I started to build this, nomad. 1718 01:13:14,974 --> 01:13:17,810 This is from the episode "the changeling," 1719 01:13:18,144 --> 01:13:21,188 um, where the, it's gonna... 1720 01:13:21,397 --> 01:13:23,691 The computer robot is gonna sterilize 1721 01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:25,192 the enterprise and destroy it. 1722 01:13:25,401 --> 01:13:30,323 One of my other projects is the romulan cloaking device. 1723 01:13:30,573 --> 01:13:32,366 I've started it here, as you can see. 1724 01:13:32,575 --> 01:13:36,162 This is the main power generator unit. 1725 01:13:36,370 --> 01:13:39,081 This is the... The round part here 1726 01:13:39,290 --> 01:13:41,208 of the actual cloaking device, 1727 01:13:41,417 --> 01:13:45,338 and I think I can modify it just like they did 1728 01:13:45,546 --> 01:13:46,923 in "the enterprise incident." 1729 01:13:47,131 --> 01:13:51,218 I can modify it to use... for use on a federation ship. 1730 01:13:51,427 --> 01:13:53,071 I mean, I've built a lot of stuff, you know, 1731 01:13:53,095 --> 01:13:55,723 like a communicator, phaser. 1732 01:13:55,932 --> 01:13:57,808 The best one, the one that's the coolest, 1733 01:13:58,017 --> 01:14:01,938 is the chair that captain pike was in after he was crippled 1734 01:14:02,146 --> 01:14:04,315 from radiation burns. 1735 01:14:06,025 --> 01:14:08,569 Well this is captain pike's total life support unit, 1736 01:14:08,778 --> 01:14:09,779 as you can see. 1737 01:14:09,987 --> 01:14:13,074 It encompasses the entire body except for the head, 1738 01:14:13,282 --> 01:14:16,994 and it supports life and takes him wherever he needs to go. 1739 01:14:17,203 --> 01:14:19,664 The beautiful simplicity of the way it works 1740 01:14:19,872 --> 01:14:21,632 is that you can ask him a yes or no question, 1741 01:14:21,707 --> 01:14:23,626 kind of like a binary computer, 1742 01:14:23,834 --> 01:14:28,297 and for yes, it's one blink, and for no, it's two blinks. 1743 01:14:28,506 --> 01:14:29,757 So if you ask me any question, 1744 01:14:29,966 --> 01:14:34,804 I can just answer with a yes or a no, just like that. 1745 01:14:35,054 --> 01:14:36,597 It's motorized, so I drive it around. 1746 01:14:36,806 --> 01:14:38,265 I drive it in parades and stuff. 1747 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,771 Hi, is Craig around? 1748 01:14:46,107 --> 01:14:49,068 I think he set aside some stuff for me, some parts, 1749 01:14:49,276 --> 01:14:53,781 an HP 12-volt unit and some transistors and a relay. 1750 01:14:56,784 --> 01:14:59,495 I talked to Craig about my nomad project, 1751 01:14:59,704 --> 01:15:02,581 and he, he said I could maybe use 1752 01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:06,210 the 3.9 ohm resistors or the 2705. 1753 01:15:06,419 --> 01:15:09,338 Do you think I could get away with the... with the 2705? 1754 01:15:10,464 --> 01:15:12,967 For my next project, I'm gonna build a dilithium chamber 1755 01:15:13,175 --> 01:15:14,301 after I'm done with nomad, 1756 01:15:14,510 --> 01:15:17,513 and I'm gonna build some antigravs, too, after that. 1757 01:15:17,972 --> 01:15:19,724 Maybe an m-5 computer. 1758 01:15:19,932 --> 01:15:22,143 And I'm gonna connect my house with jefferies tubes. 1759 01:15:22,351 --> 01:15:23,602 I got a lot of projects, 1760 01:15:23,811 --> 01:15:25,730 like, down the road to do, to build. 1761 01:15:25,938 --> 01:15:28,816 Star Trek, I think, has had a lot of impact on the future. 1762 01:15:29,025 --> 01:15:30,776 I mean, we have cellular flip phones. 1763 01:15:30,985 --> 01:15:33,487 They have nuclear-powered rocket engines already 1764 01:15:33,696 --> 01:15:35,239 that will I'm sure take us to Mars, 1765 01:15:35,448 --> 01:15:37,867 and basically, all science fiction now is true. 1766 01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:47,543 Star Trek has always been a real fun part of my life. 1767 01:15:47,752 --> 01:15:50,105 As a matter of fact, it was one of the big motivators for me 1768 01:15:50,129 --> 01:15:51,422 going to the air force academy. 1769 01:15:51,630 --> 01:15:54,050 It encouraged me to go out and study, 1770 01:15:54,258 --> 01:15:57,219 and being that Star Trek took place in space, 1771 01:15:57,428 --> 01:16:00,848 it turned my interest towards things of a space nature, 1772 01:16:01,057 --> 01:16:02,975 such as astronomy and astrophysics. 1773 01:16:03,184 --> 01:16:05,269 As a result, I got both my bachelor's 1774 01:16:05,478 --> 01:16:06,854 and my master's in astronomy, 1775 01:16:07,063 --> 01:16:08,856 and I now work as a data analyst 1776 01:16:09,065 --> 01:16:10,985 for the hubble space telescope science institute. 1777 01:16:11,275 --> 01:16:15,488 I really liked Spock's mind, his logical mind, 1778 01:16:15,696 --> 01:16:18,866 and that pushed me into a logical field. 1779 01:16:19,075 --> 01:16:20,969 Or at least, it helped push me into a logical field, 1780 01:16:20,993 --> 01:16:22,033 which is computer science. 1781 01:16:22,161 --> 01:16:23,722 - It'5 unbelievable. - Oh, absolutely. 1782 01:16:23,746 --> 01:16:25,748 It has had such an effect, 1783 01:16:25,956 --> 01:16:27,708 just from an educational angle alone. 1784 01:16:27,917 --> 01:16:31,337 Oh, it's... it's affected, I mean, all of us. 1785 01:16:31,545 --> 01:16:35,174 All the actors have received so much mail. 1786 01:16:35,382 --> 01:16:38,552 I get a lot of mail from parents who tell me, 1787 01:16:38,761 --> 01:16:40,638 "we really appreciate what you did 1788 01:16:40,846 --> 01:16:43,224 because you provided a positive role model for our son." 1789 01:16:43,432 --> 01:16:48,312 I very much support the future that gene projected 1790 01:16:48,521 --> 01:16:51,899 as far as an elimination of hunger 1791 01:16:52,108 --> 01:16:53,567 and elimination of poverty. 1792 01:16:53,776 --> 01:16:56,695 I think that Star Trek has a really, really neat message. 1793 01:16:56,904 --> 01:16:59,865 The whole infinite diversity in infinite combinations 1794 01:17:00,074 --> 01:17:01,968 is something that's very attractive to all of us, 1795 01:17:01,992 --> 01:17:04,411 and it's something that I wish the world would grasp onto 1796 01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:06,705 as beautifully as the Star Trek fans have. 1797 01:17:06,914 --> 01:17:09,625 People of all races, religions, 1798 01:17:10,042 --> 01:17:14,839 uh, political backgrounds, sizes, shapes, et cetera, 1799 01:17:15,047 --> 01:17:17,007 are all absolutely equal at a convention, 1800 01:17:17,216 --> 01:17:20,553 and nobody is ostracized because they're different. 1801 01:17:20,761 --> 01:17:22,638 And I think that attracts a lot of people 1802 01:17:22,847 --> 01:17:24,515 because elsewhere in their lives, 1803 01:17:24,723 --> 01:17:26,475 they don't have that kind of freedom. 1804 01:17:27,017 --> 01:17:28,227 Well, this weekend was great 1805 01:17:28,435 --> 01:17:30,146 because I got to go to the convention 1806 01:17:30,354 --> 01:17:32,648 and pick up some great stuff at the dealer tables 1807 01:17:32,857 --> 01:17:35,901 and meet some of my favorite cast members from the series 1808 01:17:36,110 --> 01:17:37,862 and get their signature and, 1809 01:17:38,863 --> 01:17:40,239 talking to them, shaking their hand 1810 01:17:40,447 --> 01:17:42,700 is just the most wonderful thing you can ever imagine. 1811 01:17:42,908 --> 01:17:45,578 Well, I also got to meet a lot of other fans 1812 01:17:45,786 --> 01:17:47,079 very similar to myself, 1813 01:17:47,288 --> 01:17:50,833 and, they're... they're great, gorgeous people 1814 01:17:51,041 --> 01:17:53,335 who really know how to place Star Trek 1815 01:17:53,544 --> 01:17:56,630 in the proper context with the rest of their lives, 1816 01:17:56,839 --> 01:18:00,134 and that's a unique gift for fans. 1817 01:18:00,342 --> 01:18:05,472 I met a very wonderfully talented lady, uh, 1818 01:18:05,973 --> 01:18:07,308 who was a political cartoonist, 1819 01:18:07,516 --> 01:18:09,476 an English lady named sue coe. 1820 01:18:09,685 --> 01:18:11,270 But when she saw Star Trek, 1821 01:18:14,231 --> 01:18:17,151 it... it gave her a vision, 1822 01:18:18,068 --> 01:18:20,529 not of a world, necessarily, that she could live in, 1823 01:18:20,738 --> 01:18:24,408 but it gave her a vision that, it gave her an understanding 1824 01:18:24,617 --> 01:18:27,244 that there were people who were thinking those thoughts, 1825 01:18:27,453 --> 01:18:28,871 the people who were making the show. 1826 01:18:29,079 --> 01:18:31,582 The reason most of the people I know like Star Trek 1827 01:18:31,790 --> 01:18:35,920 is it expresses issues that can't normally be expressed 1828 01:18:36,128 --> 01:18:39,173 in today's society without somebody coming down on you 1829 01:18:39,381 --> 01:18:41,717 or looking at you funny or hauling you off. 1830 01:18:41,926 --> 01:18:45,387 My father grew up in, um, in the Nazi era. 1831 01:18:45,596 --> 01:18:47,264 He was in Poland when it was taken over, 1832 01:18:47,473 --> 01:18:48,891 and because he was a German citizen, 1833 01:18:49,099 --> 01:18:51,018 or considered German, they were protected. 1834 01:18:51,227 --> 01:18:52,495 When they came to the United States, 1835 01:18:52,519 --> 01:18:53,830 he came to realize that the principles 1836 01:18:53,854 --> 01:18:56,065 that he grew up with were wrong, 1837 01:18:56,273 --> 01:18:58,153 and when we watched Star Trek, he would tell me, 1838 01:18:58,192 --> 01:18:59,377 "the things that they're doing there 1839 01:18:59,401 --> 01:19:00,611 is the right thing to think." 1840 01:19:00,819 --> 01:19:01,899 The right things, you know, 1841 01:19:01,987 --> 01:19:04,448 like treating people like they're... like they're equals 1842 01:19:04,657 --> 01:19:05,991 and treating people with respect. 1843 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,368 I would love to believe 1844 01:19:07,576 --> 01:19:09,870 that everybody can get along in the future. 1845 01:19:10,246 --> 01:19:12,706 We struck a note, a chord, 1846 01:19:12,915 --> 01:19:15,709 with the youth of this country, 1847 01:19:15,918 --> 01:19:18,128 and particularly those who came back 1848 01:19:18,337 --> 01:19:21,215 from Vietnam and the hippies. 1849 01:19:21,423 --> 01:19:24,843 Plus the fact that it came at a very turbulent time 1850 01:19:25,052 --> 01:19:27,221 when the future of society, the planet, 1851 01:19:27,429 --> 01:19:28,681 everything was up for grabs. 1852 01:19:28,889 --> 01:19:30,169 Nobody knew where we were going. 1853 01:19:30,266 --> 01:19:33,602 For the first time, people on television, 1854 01:19:33,811 --> 01:19:35,437 people saw themselves, 1855 01:19:37,731 --> 01:19:40,401 men and women, as equals. 1856 01:19:40,609 --> 01:19:44,071 I think I like the hope and the chances it gives people. 1857 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,115 Especially gay men and lesbian women, 1858 01:19:46,323 --> 01:19:48,075 they, uh, living in a world and a society 1859 01:19:48,284 --> 01:19:49,410 that's not accepting. 1860 01:19:49,618 --> 01:19:51,738 There's a dream that one day... one day down the road, 1861 01:19:51,870 --> 01:19:53,080 there will be acceptance. 1862 01:19:53,289 --> 01:19:54,832 I think gene roddenberry, at that time, 1863 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,793 offered a vision of hope and that we would have a future. 1864 01:19:58,002 --> 01:20:02,298 Not only did we not annihilate ourselves on this planet, 1865 01:20:02,506 --> 01:20:04,633 but we are going forth. 1866 01:20:04,842 --> 01:20:06,093 What progress! 1867 01:20:07,011 --> 01:20:09,680 With a sense of adventure. 1868 01:20:09,888 --> 01:20:12,099 Gene said not only there is going to be a tomorrow, 1869 01:20:12,308 --> 01:20:13,788 but it's going to be a better, kinder, 1870 01:20:13,892 --> 01:20:15,686 more gentle world tomorrow. 1871 01:20:15,894 --> 01:20:18,605 And he liked to talk about the things that bug us today, 1872 01:20:18,814 --> 01:20:20,274 which was back in the '605, 1873 01:20:20,482 --> 01:20:22,818 and put them in some kind of a disguised form 1874 01:20:23,027 --> 01:20:25,380 because of course, the network would never let us talk about 1875 01:20:25,404 --> 01:20:26,947 things that were political or 1876 01:20:27,156 --> 01:20:29,241 war or stuff like this, we couldn't mention. 1877 01:20:29,450 --> 01:20:31,170 We couldn't mention the black/white problem, 1878 01:20:31,201 --> 01:20:32,411 so you know what happened. 1879 01:20:32,619 --> 01:20:34,788 We painted frank gorshin half-black and half-white 1880 01:20:34,997 --> 01:20:36,957 and his adversary was half-white and half-black. 1881 01:20:37,166 --> 01:20:38,375 We set them at each other, 1882 01:20:38,584 --> 01:20:40,586 and it looked so ridiculous up on screen 1883 01:20:40,794 --> 01:20:42,314 that everybody had to look at it and say, 1884 01:20:42,338 --> 01:20:43,338 "hey, we get this." 1885 01:20:43,505 --> 01:20:45,632 I think this is going to be my basic prediction here, 1886 01:20:45,841 --> 01:20:48,677 that Star Trek will become the blueprint 1887 01:20:48,886 --> 01:20:50,637 for the 215t century. 1888 01:20:50,846 --> 01:20:54,224 The philosophy, the ideals, the prime directive, 1889 01:20:54,433 --> 01:20:57,269 they're all gonna be... It'll all be a genetic map 1890 01:20:57,478 --> 01:20:58,812 to a... for a better future, 1891 01:20:59,021 --> 01:21:00,689 a better tomorrow, for better mankind. 1892 01:21:00,898 --> 01:21:04,151 My feeling is that our... We've had a great time. 1893 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:05,402 We've had 30 years. 1894 01:21:05,611 --> 01:21:09,740 There have been tribulations and trials as well as triumphs, 1895 01:21:10,074 --> 01:21:15,454 but, you know, the consensus is of a very positive nature. 1896 01:21:15,788 --> 01:21:18,165 I don't want to be one of those people 1897 01:21:18,374 --> 01:21:20,667 who's still talking about it 20 years... 1898 01:21:21,293 --> 01:21:22,933 Well, it is. It's 30 years after the fact. 1899 01:21:23,087 --> 01:21:24,607 God almighty. I am one of those people! 1900 01:21:24,755 --> 01:21:26,382 Oh, my god, no! 1901 01:21:26,757 --> 01:21:28,550 We would do these conventions. 1902 01:21:28,759 --> 01:21:30,260 We'd say, "well, it will probably last 1903 01:21:30,469 --> 01:21:33,430 another couple of years and that'll be it," you know. 1904 01:21:35,891 --> 01:21:37,393 10 years later, we're saying, 1905 01:21:37,601 --> 01:21:41,814 "well, it'll probably last another couple of years." 1906 01:21:42,314 --> 01:21:43,474 20 years later, we're saying, 1907 01:21:43,565 --> 01:21:45,484 "good god, it's gonna go on forever." 1908 01:21:45,692 --> 01:21:47,569 I don't think that it will ever die. 1909 01:21:47,778 --> 01:21:49,822 I don't think that something like that can ever die. 1910 01:21:50,030 --> 01:21:51,030 You've got a phenomenon. 1911 01:21:51,198 --> 01:21:53,700 After all, this is our 20th century mythology. 1912 01:21:54,701 --> 01:21:55,701 That's big. 1913 01:21:56,578 --> 01:21:57,931 I don't know, I hope it lasts forever. 1914 01:21:57,955 --> 01:22:00,457 It's a good thing. It's... it'5... it's... 1915 01:22:02,209 --> 01:22:05,254 As long as it's thoughtful, it's a good thing. 1916 01:22:05,963 --> 01:22:07,464 And remember, live long and prosper. 1917 01:22:07,673 --> 01:22:09,025 - Goodnight, everyone. - Goodnight, all, 1918 01:22:09,049 --> 01:22:10,049 - god bless. - Goodnight. 1919 01:22:10,884 --> 01:22:12,678 I want to thank all of you for my stamp. 1920 01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:16,223 And I want you to know I'm a trekkie, too. 1921 01:22:16,432 --> 01:22:19,518 I love Star Trek, and all I can say is this. 1922 01:22:21,019 --> 01:22:27,985 J“ glory, glory, hallelujah j“ 1923 01:22:28,819 --> 01:22:35,784 j“ Star Trek's truth is marching on j“ 1924 01:22:38,078 --> 01:22:43,417 j“ its truth is marching j“ 1925 01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:46,336 ladies and gentlemen, live long and prosper. 1926 01:22:46,545 --> 01:22:47,546 Uh-huh. 1927 01:22:51,091 --> 01:22:52,092 Thank you. 1928 01:22:52,301 --> 01:22:53,301 Hah! 1929 01:22:53,969 --> 01:22:54,969 Thank you. 1930 01:22:57,639 --> 01:23:02,144 I am a big Star Trek fan and got beat up most of my life 1931 01:23:02,352 --> 01:23:04,104 for being a Star Trek fan, 1932 01:23:04,313 --> 01:23:06,398 usually by sports fans, which I think is ironic, 1933 01:23:06,607 --> 01:23:09,568 'cause, someone that's, like, really into football 1934 01:23:09,776 --> 01:23:12,863 will wear the uniform of the game, a Jersey, 1935 01:23:13,071 --> 01:23:14,299 and walk around town, and that's fine. 1936 01:23:14,323 --> 01:23:17,409 Yet if I put on my klingon uniform and go to safeway, 1937 01:23:18,327 --> 01:23:20,662 I'm a big geek, you know. 1938 01:23:20,871 --> 01:23:23,499 "Excuse me. These yams have no honor." 1939 01:23:24,625 --> 01:23:25,625 I love their motto, 1940 01:23:25,792 --> 01:23:28,253 "we boldly go where no man has gone before." 1941 01:23:28,504 --> 01:23:30,785 But when they get there, there's someone waiting for them. 1942 01:23:33,884 --> 01:23:35,677 James kirk as an archaeologist. 1943 01:23:36,845 --> 01:23:38,639 Bones! 1944 01:23:38,847 --> 01:23:40,533 You know, there's supposed to be this prime directive, 1945 01:23:40,557 --> 01:23:43,185 you don't tamper with cultures because you're so advanced. 1946 01:23:43,393 --> 01:23:44,537 When you land on their planet, 1947 01:23:44,561 --> 01:23:45,914 you don't mess with any of their beliefs. 1948 01:23:45,938 --> 01:23:48,148 You just get that one thing you need and you beam out. 1949 01:23:48,357 --> 01:23:50,776 He didn't pay attention to that at all, man. 1950 01:23:50,984 --> 01:23:52,253 He would just burst into their hallway, 1951 01:23:52,277 --> 01:23:53,904 "your Bible is a lie! 1952 01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:56,174 Everything you believe is wrong. 1953 01:23:56,198 --> 01:23:57,198 Run! Freak out! 1954 01:23:57,366 --> 01:24:00,202 I'm the bloated god-being from the sky." 1955 01:24:01,370 --> 01:24:03,181 They've always got one minority that gets beamed down 1956 01:24:03,205 --> 01:24:04,998 that don't come back up. 1957 01:24:05,207 --> 01:24:09,503 It's like, "okay. Jim, Spock, bones, Scotty, and Rodriguez." 1958 01:24:09,711 --> 01:24:12,130 Rodriguez is dead. 1959 01:24:13,715 --> 01:24:15,026 When they get down there, Jim goes, 1960 01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:17,511 "Rodriguez, check behind that rock. 1961 01:24:17,970 --> 01:24:19,930 Regular cast, stand over here, 1962 01:24:21,139 --> 01:24:24,017 'cause there's a brain-sucking plant behind the rock." 1963 01:24:25,435 --> 01:24:26,579 We don't want Rodriguez to say, 1964 01:24:26,603 --> 01:24:28,522 "hey, Jim, you check behind that rock. 1965 01:24:28,981 --> 01:24:31,441 I lost two cousins on this show last season." 1966 01:24:33,193 --> 01:24:35,988 Remember the old one with the three brains in the jars 1967 01:24:36,196 --> 01:24:38,073 with the gambling problem? Remember that? 1968 01:24:38,282 --> 01:24:40,742 "I bet 400 quatloos on the newcomer." 1969 01:24:40,951 --> 01:24:42,035 "Where are you from?" 1970 01:24:42,244 --> 01:24:43,453 "Earth." 1971 01:24:43,662 --> 01:24:45,914 "What's the spread on the ucla game? 1972 01:24:46,123 --> 01:24:47,583 Got a lot of quatloos on that." 1973 01:24:48,542 --> 01:24:50,586 One day you'll have klingon comics. 1974 01:24:50,794 --> 01:24:52,045 Worf as a comic. 1975 01:24:53,297 --> 01:24:54,297 "Thank you. 1976 01:24:55,716 --> 01:24:57,175 It's a pleasure to be here 1977 01:24:57,384 --> 01:24:59,553 at the first ice house on klingon." 1978 01:25:01,305 --> 01:25:03,765 "Remember when you were in school, 1979 01:25:03,974 --> 01:25:06,143 and your teacher would anger you, 1980 01:25:06,351 --> 01:25:08,562 forcing you to kill him?" 1981 01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:12,733 "My father would be so proud of me, 1982 01:25:12,941 --> 01:25:15,819 he'd hold my hands in the flames of roqah." 1983 01:25:17,070 --> 01:25:22,034 "Scotty! How are the engines? And don't use a metaphor." 1984 01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:27,122 "Aye, sir. The circuit board is cross-wired 1985 01:25:27,789 --> 01:25:30,125 like a Christmas tree on the fourth of July." 1986 01:25:30,334 --> 01:25:31,585 "No, Scotty! 1987 01:25:32,210 --> 01:25:33,813 The engines, Scotty. How are the engines?" 1988 01:25:33,837 --> 01:25:35,648 "Aye. They're overheated, sir, 1989 01:25:35,672 --> 01:25:38,050 like a supernova in the middle of August 1990 01:25:38,258 --> 01:25:39,259 with the windows closed." 1991 01:25:39,468 --> 01:25:41,136 "No, Scotty, no metaphors!" 1992 01:25:41,887 --> 01:25:43,406 "Can I use a simile, sir?" 1993 01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:45,408 "No!" "An allegory?“ 1994 01:25:45,432 --> 01:25:46,951 "No!" "Can I tell 1995 01:25:46,975 --> 01:25:49,102 an anecdote?" "The klingons are here!" 1996 01:25:49,311 --> 01:25:50,646 Wesley, the little kid? 1997 01:25:50,854 --> 01:25:52,606 14 years old, he's never kissed anyone. 1998 01:25:52,814 --> 01:25:54,274 There's a holodeck on the ship. 1999 01:25:54,483 --> 01:25:56,902 Now, if I had a holodeck... 2000 01:25:59,404 --> 01:26:01,573 When I was 14, 2001 01:26:02,199 --> 01:26:03,468 I never would have left the thing. 2002 01:26:03,492 --> 01:26:05,219 They'd have to send captain picard looking for me. 2003 01:26:05,243 --> 01:26:07,287 "Where's weinhold?“ "He's in holodeck one." 2004 01:26:07,871 --> 01:26:10,351 The doors open up, I'm climbing out of a giant. 2005 01:26:14,002 --> 01:26:15,545 "It's time you saw counselor troi." 2006 01:26:15,754 --> 01:26:17,631 "This is counselor troi!" 148863

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