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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,208 --> 00:00:02,711 We have put together, I think the most 2 00:00:04,337 --> 00:00:08,007 extensive and inclusive voter fraud 3 00:00:09,551 --> 00:00:11,386 organization in the history 4 00:00:11,386 --> 00:00:14,264 of American politics. 5 00:01:46,731 --> 00:01:48,066 Every time we vote, 6 00:01:48,066 --> 00:01:52,028 we are standing up side by side with the founding fathers, with the men 7 00:01:52,028 --> 00:01:55,615 of Valley Forge, with patriots and pioneers throughout our history, 8 00:01:56,115 --> 00:01:59,327 with all those who dedicated their lives to making this a nation 9 00:01:59,535 --> 00:02:02,288 of the people, by the people and for the people. 10 00:02:03,581 --> 00:02:06,417 Elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. 11 00:02:06,417 --> 00:02:09,754 They are the mechanism by which the American people choose 12 00:02:09,754 --> 00:02:13,967 who is going to rule on their behalf and for their interests and welfare 13 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,389 Without elections, there would be no way for the American people for us 14 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,101 to exercise our legitimate sway on the future direction 15 00:02:23,101 --> 00:02:25,186 of this country. 16 00:02:32,235 --> 00:02:35,196 Polls now closed in half the country, and we are getting some 17 00:02:35,196 --> 00:02:37,865 interesting results coming in from those battleground states. 18 00:02:37,865 --> 00:02:40,451 If you're a Republican, you say, wow, if you're a Democrat, you say, 19 00:02:40,868 --> 00:02:41,786 "oh oh". Do you see Donald Trump 20 00:02:41,786 --> 00:02:44,080 is now starting to widen his lead. 21 00:02:44,330 --> 00:02:46,874 President Trump now with 54% of the vote. 22 00:02:46,958 --> 00:02:49,877 The president right now has the lead in the Keystone State 23 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:53,715 We have a great night and 24 00:02:53,715 --> 00:02:56,259 we're going to have much more importantly, we can have a great four years 25 00:02:58,428 --> 00:03:01,806 The 2020 election haunts the American mind. 26 00:03:02,015 --> 00:03:03,975 Here's where it gets really bizarre. 27 00:03:03,975 --> 00:03:06,227 Fulton county, most populous county. 28 00:03:06,394 --> 00:03:09,063 It is Atlanta. They just stopped counting. 29 00:03:09,105 --> 00:03:11,190 Nevada, meanwhile, has stopped counting votes. 30 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:13,943 They've all stopped counting for the night. 31 00:03:15,528 --> 00:03:15,737 All right. 32 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:16,195 Welcome back. 33 00:03:16,195 --> 00:03:18,197 This is CNN special live coverage. 34 00:03:18,197 --> 00:03:20,867 10:31 a.m. on the East Coast. 35 00:03:20,908 --> 00:03:22,452 Why am I giving you the time? 36 00:03:22,452 --> 00:03:26,789 Well, if you managed to sleep last night, things changed. 37 00:03:27,123 --> 00:03:30,543 You may have gone to bed thinking this election was headed one way 38 00:03:30,877 --> 00:03:33,671 and then you woke up and you saw things were different. 39 00:03:33,671 --> 00:03:36,299 Also, overnight, Joe Biden pulled ahead in the state of Georgia. 40 00:03:36,549 --> 00:03:38,593 Joe Biden takes the lead in Pennsylvania. 41 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,386 Okay, we have an announcement to make. 42 00:03:40,386 --> 00:03:44,432 Joe Biden has run for president three times and the third time 43 00:03:44,766 --> 00:03:46,726 has turned out to be the charm. 44 00:03:49,729 --> 00:03:52,815 One side insists it was the most secure election in U.S. 45 00:03:52,815 --> 00:03:55,276 history. Let me begin with one immutable fact. 46 00:03:55,443 --> 00:03:58,905 The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history. 47 00:03:58,946 --> 00:04:01,616 It was the cleanest election, the safest election, 48 00:04:01,616 --> 00:04:03,367 the most secure election ever run. 49 00:04:03,367 --> 00:04:06,746 And make no mistake, there has been no evidence 50 00:04:06,746 --> 00:04:10,249 of any significant whites or widespread voter fraud. 51 00:04:10,374 --> 00:04:11,375 Let me say it again. 52 00:04:11,375 --> 00:04:16,047 The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history. 53 00:04:16,339 --> 00:04:17,131 Period. 54 00:04:17,131 --> 00:04:20,218 This same side accuses anyone who disagrees with them 55 00:04:20,593 --> 00:04:23,888 of perpetrating a big lie or the big delusion. 56 00:04:24,138 --> 00:04:26,265 The big lie keeps getting repeated. 57 00:04:26,265 --> 00:04:29,644 The "big lie" is just that : a big lie. 58 00:04:30,811 --> 00:04:33,523 And despite a relentless media barrage, 59 00:04:33,731 --> 00:04:38,027 the other side remains convinced there was widespread election fraud 60 00:04:38,611 --> 00:04:42,573 What I saw was not a secure and transparent election. 61 00:04:42,615 --> 00:04:47,161 Poll watchers claim the Travis County Clerk's office is locking them out. 62 00:04:47,203 --> 00:04:49,163 Last night, there was a major software glitch 63 00:04:49,163 --> 00:04:52,124 that actually delayed the counting of all of the ballots. 64 00:04:52,166 --> 00:04:53,334 A look at election fraud. 65 00:04:53,334 --> 00:04:57,129 And I want to look at secretaries of state who illegally changed the voter laws 66 00:04:57,255 --> 00:04:59,298 without the permission of their state legislature. 67 00:04:59,799 --> 00:05:03,469 There have been numerous attempts to prove election fraud. 68 00:05:03,678 --> 00:05:07,348 The van dropping off ballots in the early morning hours of November 4th. 69 00:05:07,348 --> 00:05:09,016 8 hours past the deadline. 70 00:05:09,016 --> 00:05:12,895 She said her mother was in a nursing home and did not have the mental capacity 71 00:05:12,895 --> 00:05:13,521 to vote. 72 00:05:13,521 --> 00:05:17,733 We've obtained videotape that shows a man dropping several ballot into a drop box. 73 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:21,737 Scottsdale woman pleads guilty to casting a ballot in her dad's mother's name. 74 00:05:21,737 --> 00:05:26,701 It shows a man buying a registration form for an absentee ballot from a voter 75 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:31,247 giving him, quote, pocket money, unquote, of $200. 76 00:05:31,998 --> 00:05:35,293 Yet courts have refused to consider these cases on the merits. 77 00:05:36,752 --> 00:05:39,338 The Supreme Court rejecting an effort by Republicans 78 00:05:39,588 --> 00:05:42,967 to reverse President elect Joe Biden's win in Pennsylvania. 79 00:05:43,217 --> 00:05:47,054 The Supreme Court has rejected the Texas led effort to toss out 80 00:05:47,305 --> 00:05:49,849 election results in four key states. 81 00:05:50,349 --> 00:05:53,686 Even some Republicans dismiss the idea of systematic 82 00:05:53,686 --> 00:05:56,605 fraud and call for us to move on. 83 00:05:56,981 --> 00:06:00,568 Fraud did not play a role in the outcome of the election. 84 00:06:01,027 --> 00:06:05,448 The election was fair, as fair as we've seen 85 00:06:06,699 --> 00:06:10,578 We simply did not win the election as Republicans for the presidency. 86 00:06:10,745 --> 00:06:14,290 Rather than reject what happened on the sixth, reject 87 00:06:14,290 --> 00:06:18,461 the lies about the election and make clear that a president 88 00:06:18,461 --> 00:06:21,422 who engaged in those activities can never be president again. 89 00:06:21,922 --> 00:06:24,633 But we can't move on unless we know the truth. 90 00:06:26,844 --> 00:06:30,890 Many other issues arise out of the 2020 election 91 00:06:35,269 --> 00:06:37,813 Did the January six protesters go to D.C. 92 00:06:37,813 --> 00:06:40,900 to mount an insurrection? 93 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:42,735 It wasn't an insurrection. 94 00:06:42,735 --> 00:06:44,570 It was a primal scream. 95 00:06:44,820 --> 00:06:49,366 To protect the Constitution of the United States against enemies foreign or domestic ! 96 00:06:51,077 --> 00:06:52,661 They wanted their elected leaders 97 00:06:52,661 --> 00:06:55,122 to adjudicate the claims of election fraud. 98 00:06:58,167 --> 00:07:01,337 The left's claim that this was the most secure election 99 00:07:01,462 --> 00:07:04,757 is also the foundation for the widespread censorship 100 00:07:04,757 --> 00:07:08,010 on social media of the so-called Big Lie. 101 00:07:08,344 --> 00:07:12,139 This morning, President Trump waking up without his favorite megaphone. 102 00:07:12,181 --> 00:07:15,726 You will never again see a tweet from President Trump. 103 00:07:15,935 --> 00:07:18,437 But is it a big lie? 104 00:07:18,437 --> 00:07:20,773 Is it a lie at all? 105 00:07:28,405 --> 00:07:31,367 Yeah, well, sound speed 106 00:07:31,367 --> 00:07:33,160 All right. Everybody got me? - Yes 107 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:33,744 All right. 108 00:07:33,994 --> 00:07:34,954 SRP 109 00:07:41,919 --> 00:07:44,088 Ready. Set. 110 00:07:44,088 --> 00:07:47,299 Hey, I'm Dinesh D'Souza, and this is season one, 111 00:07:47,383 --> 00:07:50,386 episode one of my new podcast. 112 00:07:51,762 --> 00:07:52,429 I started my 113 00:07:52,429 --> 00:07:55,307 podcast in early 2021 to speak the truth. 114 00:07:56,350 --> 00:07:59,478 But by simply asking questions about election fraud, 115 00:07:59,687 --> 00:08:02,022 you get booted from YouTube and Facebook 116 00:08:03,941 --> 00:08:06,402 My podcast is sponsored by Salem Media, 117 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:10,114 and I knew that other Salem hosts felt my frustration. 118 00:08:10,698 --> 00:08:13,450 Larry Elder, Dennis Prager, 119 00:08:14,451 --> 00:08:17,371 Eric Metaxas, Sebastian Gorka, 120 00:08:17,580 --> 00:08:19,331 Charlie Kirk, 121 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:24,378 We begin 122 00:08:24,378 --> 00:08:28,465 by asking a very simple question Do we feel confident or comfortable 123 00:08:28,465 --> 00:08:33,095 that we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election? 124 00:08:33,137 --> 00:08:37,266 I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information. 125 00:08:37,641 --> 00:08:39,226 What about you, Eric? 126 00:08:39,226 --> 00:08:41,729 I think Dennis is a coward. 127 00:08:41,854 --> 00:08:42,563 I think, 128 00:08:42,563 --> 00:08:45,357 no, honestly, it's almost funny to me that you are agnostic, 129 00:08:45,357 --> 00:08:48,110 I think most Americans know 130 00:08:49,028 --> 00:08:53,574 that we don't know what happened and are not okay with that, by the way. 131 00:08:53,782 --> 00:08:58,037 I'm supposed to believe that a man who didn't campaign or campaign 132 00:08:58,037 --> 00:09:01,582 from his basement got more votes than the first black president in America. 133 00:09:02,708 --> 00:09:03,625 I don't believe it. 134 00:09:03,625 --> 00:09:05,502 Charlie, we have crumbs. 135 00:09:05,502 --> 00:09:08,714 We have some evidence here and there that the picture is far from complete. 136 00:09:09,131 --> 00:09:11,925 Larry, in your race, you were you were asked straight out, 137 00:09:12,343 --> 00:09:15,262 do you believe that the 2020 election was stolen? 138 00:09:15,471 --> 00:09:16,889 What was your answer? 139 00:09:16,889 --> 00:09:18,474 And do you abide by that 140 00:09:18,474 --> 00:09:20,559 answer as of right now? 141 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,020 My answer was that 142 00:09:23,020 --> 00:09:25,481 Donald Trump is in Mar a Lago 143 00:09:25,481 --> 00:09:28,192 and Joe Biden is in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. 144 00:09:28,609 --> 00:09:30,527 The lawsuit did not succeed. 145 00:09:30,527 --> 00:09:32,154 Do I believe there was shenanigans? 146 00:09:32,154 --> 00:09:34,239 Do I believe there were irregularities? 147 00:09:34,615 --> 00:09:35,574 Absolutely. 148 00:09:35,574 --> 00:09:40,245 And said so. This is probably the most loathed president I've ever seen. 149 00:09:40,454 --> 00:09:41,914 I thought Richard Nixon was loathed. 150 00:09:41,914 --> 00:09:44,708 I thought George W Bush was loathed because of the Iraq war. 151 00:09:44,708 --> 00:09:47,586 I have never seen the level of vitriol against this man. 152 00:09:47,795 --> 00:09:50,964 Every single day, I think there was a study that found 153 00:09:50,964 --> 00:09:56,512 91% of the news of ABC, NBC, CBS Nightly News against Donald Trump was negative, 154 00:09:56,804 --> 00:10:00,682 dogged by a bogus two and a half year collusion investigation. 155 00:10:01,016 --> 00:10:04,812 And then on the eve of the election, this Hunter Biden story drops, 156 00:10:05,020 --> 00:10:06,522 which shows that Joe Biden completely 157 00:10:06,522 --> 00:10:10,150 lied about his lack of knowledge of what his son was doing, and it was suppressed. 158 00:10:10,484 --> 00:10:14,154 And even the CEO of Twitter later on admitted that it was suppressed 159 00:10:14,154 --> 00:10:15,280 and shouldn't have been. 160 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,116 That alone would have altered the election. 161 00:10:17,116 --> 00:10:17,991 You add all that up. 162 00:10:17,991 --> 00:10:20,077 My point is this man is so loathed, 163 00:10:20,244 --> 00:10:23,413 I wouldn't put it past the Democrats to do virtually anything to make sure 164 00:10:23,539 --> 00:10:24,873 he doesn't get another four years. 165 00:10:24,873 --> 00:10:28,961 If I believed the president were a Nazi I might steal an election. 166 00:10:29,086 --> 00:10:32,923 If we were Germans in the 1930s, we'd steal the election from Hitler. 167 00:10:33,257 --> 00:10:37,052 If I'm that indoctrinated, of course I can justify it. 168 00:10:37,261 --> 00:10:41,682 I think it was Jane Fonda who said that COVID was God's gift to the left right. 169 00:10:42,015 --> 00:10:45,561 It wrecks the empirical positives of the Trump economy. 170 00:10:45,561 --> 00:10:46,478 But here's the other. 171 00:10:46,478 --> 00:10:47,604 It enables 172 00:10:47,604 --> 00:10:51,984 a whole bunch of things on the other side to change the rules of the election. 173 00:10:51,984 --> 00:10:54,862 So the point is, I'm in a COVID environment. 174 00:10:55,195 --> 00:10:59,533 Is it not conceivable that Trump could have lost fair and square? 175 00:10:59,533 --> 00:11:02,077 I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, 176 00:11:02,077 --> 00:11:04,997 and they have little pieces and no one's really put it together. 177 00:11:05,289 --> 00:11:07,708 They know that there was injustice. They know it in their gut. 178 00:11:07,875 --> 00:11:09,543 They know it through the Bellweather counties 179 00:11:09,543 --> 00:11:13,005 where Donald Trump won almost every single one of the predictive counties 180 00:11:13,005 --> 00:11:14,673 that show who's going to be president. 181 00:11:14,673 --> 00:11:16,884 And then they also know it when they went to bed thinking 182 00:11:16,884 --> 00:11:19,928 Trump was going to have four more years and they woke up with the exact opposite. 183 00:11:20,220 --> 00:11:23,807 We have an individual who could fill a stadium with 60,000 184 00:11:23,807 --> 00:11:26,935 supporters in 24 hours, but an individual 185 00:11:27,019 --> 00:11:30,731 you know, the famous photograph of the six empty circles at a Biden rally. 186 00:11:30,731 --> 00:11:32,774 We have an incumbent president 187 00:11:32,774 --> 00:11:36,695 who received more votes than any other incumbent president. 188 00:11:36,695 --> 00:11:40,949 In American history, who actually got 10 million more votes 189 00:11:40,949 --> 00:11:45,579 than he did four years prior and who received more support 190 00:11:45,912 --> 00:11:49,458 after four years of being called a racist and a white supremacist. 191 00:11:49,666 --> 00:11:52,002 More support from the Hispanic and black community 192 00:11:52,210 --> 00:11:55,422 than any Republican president since the 1960s. 193 00:11:56,214 --> 00:12:01,553 And he was beaten by a machine politician who couldn't speak clearly 194 00:12:01,845 --> 00:12:05,474 who on the campaign stage would confuse his sister with his wife. 195 00:12:05,724 --> 00:12:07,517 It just stinks. 196 00:12:07,517 --> 00:12:11,813 Now, is it possible that the very success of Republicans down ballot. 197 00:12:11,980 --> 00:12:14,441 I'm talking about Republicans running for the House 198 00:12:14,441 --> 00:12:16,360 running for the Senate running for other races. 199 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,989 The fact that the Republicans as a party did pretty well, but Trump lost. 200 00:12:21,698 --> 00:12:25,452 Doesn't that work the other way and undercut the idea 201 00:12:25,660 --> 00:12:28,330 that there was systematic fraud ? It's an anomaly, 202 00:12:28,663 --> 00:12:33,543 because when the president really loses, he has tails. 203 00:12:34,503 --> 00:12:35,504 What is it called? 204 00:12:35,504 --> 00:12:36,880 Coattails. 205 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,674 And the the down ballot lose. 206 00:12:39,883 --> 00:12:40,884 But they won. 207 00:12:40,884 --> 00:12:42,886 Why didn't they cheat on all of those? 208 00:12:42,886 --> 00:12:45,263 Why didn't they cheat in Virginia with Youngkin? 209 00:12:45,472 --> 00:12:47,516 But who's to say they didn't cheat? 210 00:12:47,557 --> 00:12:50,477 Not all attempts at cheating succeed. You're right. 211 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:51,228 One other question. 212 00:12:51,228 --> 00:12:54,731 In the Republican Party, I keep hearing people who seem 213 00:12:55,107 --> 00:12:58,402 annoyed at the revisiting of the 2020 election. 214 00:12:58,402 --> 00:13:02,322 Their attitude appears to be "let bygones be bygones". 215 00:13:02,572 --> 00:13:04,282 "Let's just move on". 216 00:13:04,282 --> 00:13:08,453 I think the reason that many Republicans are saying "let's move on" is because 217 00:13:09,746 --> 00:13:14,417 bold accusations require bold evidence and they haven't seen it. 218 00:13:14,626 --> 00:13:15,418 And because they know 219 00:13:15,418 --> 00:13:18,505 how vulnerable they are and how much they're going to be bashed. 220 00:13:18,505 --> 00:13:20,882 Well, you're called a sore loser. 221 00:13:20,882 --> 00:13:22,717 You're called a conspiracy theorist. 222 00:13:22,717 --> 00:13:26,304 The people who say that, "let's move forward", are people 223 00:13:26,304 --> 00:13:29,558 in the elite who see Donald Trump as an anomaly. 224 00:13:29,933 --> 00:13:34,229 You will not win in any district in this country, 225 00:13:35,063 --> 00:13:37,357 because you have said that 226 00:13:37,357 --> 00:13:40,443 that the 2020 election was a fraud. 227 00:13:40,777 --> 00:13:44,489 And if they can't win on this issue, then don't use it. 228 00:13:45,282 --> 00:13:48,326 Well, it doesn't have to be the only issue, but their unwillingness 229 00:13:48,326 --> 00:13:51,580 even to speak up about it, I think, is despicable. 230 00:13:51,580 --> 00:13:54,708 Show me the proof, and I'll bet you they do speak up, just like I will speak 231 00:13:54,708 --> 00:13:59,170 more and I'm not running for office, but I have not gone on board of 232 00:13:59,629 --> 00:14:01,840 "I know for a fact this was a fraud". 233 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:02,632 Show me the money 234 00:14:09,973 --> 00:14:12,392 And look, I mean, the Democrats, they have a history 235 00:14:12,392 --> 00:14:15,812 of voter fraud. Going back to Tammany Hall in the 19th century. 236 00:14:16,062 --> 00:14:20,567 We fast forward to LBJ stealing his first race in Texas, 237 00:14:20,775 --> 00:14:24,905 John F Kennedy, the allegations that he stole the presidency 238 00:14:25,071 --> 00:14:29,659 with voter fraud in Texas and in Illinois. - They've done it before. 239 00:14:29,868 --> 00:14:31,828 I mean, you can have someone who has a criminal record 240 00:14:31,828 --> 00:14:33,413 and they're fully capable of robbing a bank. 241 00:14:33,413 --> 00:14:35,665 But did they run the bank? - Well, it looks like it. 242 00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:38,043 What does our friend Katherine think about all this? 243 00:14:38,043 --> 00:14:40,045 Katherine's been a little quiet, 244 00:14:40,045 --> 00:14:43,632 but I think that that means that they're working on something. 245 00:14:43,673 --> 00:14:47,177 I think that you should give her a call and see what she thinks. 246 00:14:47,260 --> 00:14:50,138 Hi, I'm Katherine Engelbrecht, founder and president of True the Vote 247 00:14:54,976 --> 00:14:55,518 Hey Dinesh, 248 00:14:55,518 --> 00:14:56,019 how are you? 249 00:14:56,019 --> 00:14:58,396 Hey, I'm doing fine. Hey, listen, I'm here with Debbie. 250 00:14:58,396 --> 00:14:59,564 Hey, Katherine. 251 00:14:59,564 --> 00:15:00,231 Hey, Debbie. 252 00:15:00,231 --> 00:15:02,776 You know how crazy it is out there. 253 00:15:02,776 --> 00:15:07,030 Have you guys been digging into this whole issue of voter fraud? 254 00:15:07,489 --> 00:15:10,950 Well, we had been working on something big. 255 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:14,788 It's probably best we don't discuss it over the phone, but 256 00:15:14,788 --> 00:15:15,872 can we meet 257 00:15:20,543 --> 00:15:21,252 I've been working 258 00:15:21,252 --> 00:15:24,714 with Greg Phillips, I don't think I've ever introduced him to you, 259 00:15:24,714 --> 00:15:29,469 but he has a deep background in election intelligence. 260 00:15:29,469 --> 00:15:31,763 He's worked projects all over the world. 261 00:15:31,763 --> 00:15:34,391 He has a massive 30 year experience. 262 00:15:36,226 --> 00:15:39,854 We decided to test a hypothesis, and we went 263 00:15:41,356 --> 00:15:42,440 really big. 264 00:15:42,857 --> 00:15:44,401 And now 265 00:15:44,859 --> 00:15:48,196 we have something and we think you're going to really want to see. 266 00:15:48,822 --> 00:15:50,740 So I'll send you the address separately. 267 00:15:52,117 --> 00:15:52,450 Now, Greg 268 00:15:52,450 --> 00:15:56,287 Greg Phillips, what's your background that prepares you for this kind of work? 269 00:15:56,871 --> 00:16:01,876 I've been in and around election intelligence and integrity for about 40 270 00:16:01,876 --> 00:16:02,585 years. 271 00:16:03,044 --> 00:16:05,964 We've done investigations literally all over the world. 272 00:16:06,005 --> 00:16:10,844 It's a combination of data acquisition, data analysis, 273 00:16:11,261 --> 00:16:16,975 occasionally some in-depth data mining, our ability to draw meaningful conclusions 274 00:16:16,975 --> 00:16:20,979 that link the who to the when to the where, is significant in this space. 275 00:16:21,396 --> 00:16:26,151 Katherine, you started the group called True the Vote in the year 2010. 276 00:16:26,192 --> 00:16:28,778 What was your mission or objective? 277 00:16:29,112 --> 00:16:31,281 We just didn't have enough volunteers working at the polls 278 00:16:31,281 --> 00:16:32,448 in our local elections. 279 00:16:32,448 --> 00:16:35,118 So we began by training people to work in the polls. 280 00:16:35,118 --> 00:16:38,746 And then as we got further into it, we recognized, wow, some of the problems 281 00:16:38,746 --> 00:16:41,875 you see at the polls can be attributed to problems in the voter rolls. 282 00:16:41,875 --> 00:16:44,335 Well, what can we do about the voter rolls? 283 00:16:44,335 --> 00:16:47,714 And so it turned into something much bigger than we had anticipated. 284 00:16:48,131 --> 00:16:51,301 True the vote has the largest store of election 285 00:16:51,301 --> 00:16:54,762 intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world. 286 00:16:55,305 --> 00:16:57,557 No one has more data than we do. 287 00:16:57,557 --> 00:16:58,975 So I started True the vote 288 00:16:58,975 --> 00:17:03,021 to ensure that every American voter has an opportunity to participate in elections. 289 00:17:03,021 --> 00:17:08,610 I think I became familiar with your work when you gave congressional testimony. 290 00:17:08,651 --> 00:17:10,945 Now, that was in the year 2014. 291 00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:15,074 In fact, I met you through Debbie and I think what's interesting is that 292 00:17:15,074 --> 00:17:18,411 you not only have known Debbie for years, but you trained her. 293 00:17:18,494 --> 00:17:21,497 Absolutely, I was a bilingual poll watcher. 294 00:17:21,497 --> 00:17:22,040 Oh, yes. 295 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,418 So my Spanish language came in very handy. 296 00:17:25,418 --> 00:17:27,795 I was a poll watcher in Rosenberg. 297 00:17:27,795 --> 00:17:32,050 And the poll judge was telling this couple 298 00:17:32,050 --> 00:17:35,261 that came in, in Spanish, who to vote for. 299 00:17:35,970 --> 00:17:39,265 And of course, she didn't really realize, but I knew Spanish. 300 00:17:39,265 --> 00:17:41,351 And so there we go. 301 00:17:41,351 --> 00:17:43,770 And you busted them - I busted them, yes. 302 00:17:44,187 --> 00:17:47,190 So, Katherine, when you set up True the vote, you set it up 303 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:48,274 not so much 304 00:17:48,274 --> 00:17:50,318 as a partisan organization. 305 00:17:50,526 --> 00:17:53,321 Is that because you saw shenanigans, 306 00:17:53,321 --> 00:17:57,116 problems with voting, as coming out of both parties? 307 00:17:57,158 --> 00:17:58,451 Oh, absolutely. 308 00:17:58,451 --> 00:18:00,954 Plus, we need parity of parties at the polls. 309 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:03,665 Well, you told me about this remarkable election win 310 00:18:03,665 --> 00:18:07,335 in which you had vote harvesting and vote trafficking, 311 00:18:07,627 --> 00:18:09,921 but it was on behalf of a Republican candidate. 312 00:18:09,963 --> 00:18:11,214 Exactly. 313 00:18:11,381 --> 00:18:16,010 In North Carolina, it was unique in that it actually overturned an election. 314 00:18:16,010 --> 00:18:17,679 There's going to be a new election in the North 315 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:21,766 Carolina congressional district engulfed in a scandal over voting fraud. 316 00:18:21,808 --> 00:18:26,020 This all centers around alegations that an operative for Harris 317 00:18:26,229 --> 00:18:29,607 then hired a team of people to harvest absentee 318 00:18:29,607 --> 00:18:32,610 ballots, paying them between two and $3 a vote. 319 00:18:32,902 --> 00:18:35,738 So you have an activist, the guy whose name was McCrae Dowless, 320 00:18:36,030 --> 00:18:39,826 and he worked for the Bladen Improvement Association, 321 00:18:39,826 --> 00:18:43,788 which was a kind of an African-American get voters to the polls. 322 00:18:44,205 --> 00:18:47,333 But apparently they were doing all kinds of vote harvesting. 323 00:18:47,333 --> 00:18:48,835 And he learned the strategy. 324 00:18:48,835 --> 00:18:50,420 Then he broke with them 325 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:54,257 and he took his services to Mark Harris a Republican, actually a pastor, 326 00:18:54,257 --> 00:18:55,425 who was running. - Correct. 327 00:18:55,425 --> 00:18:56,592 And Harris won, 328 00:18:56,592 --> 00:19:00,805 he pulled it off. - In 40 years of doing this, we've seen this over and over. 329 00:19:00,805 --> 00:19:03,266 Sometimes the schemes are a little bit different. 330 00:19:03,266 --> 00:19:06,644 Sometimes it's people out banging on doors, gathering ballots. 331 00:19:06,644 --> 00:19:10,606 Sometimes the ballots are sent here, gathered here, deposited there. 332 00:19:10,898 --> 00:19:14,777 But the traffic unit self is always the same basic pattern. 333 00:19:15,111 --> 00:19:17,989 There's a nonprofit involved somewhere in the middle. 334 00:19:18,364 --> 00:19:22,660 There are people that are either collecting those ballots on the one hand 335 00:19:22,910 --> 00:19:26,539 or depositing those ballots on the other and getting paid for it. 336 00:19:26,622 --> 00:19:31,669 And in no case is it acceptable to be paid for your ballot 337 00:19:32,003 --> 00:19:34,922 or to accept some form of remuneration for your ballot. 338 00:19:34,922 --> 00:19:37,550 And in no way in no time is that legal. 339 00:19:37,758 --> 00:19:41,387 I notice, Katherine, that in the immediate aftermath of the election, 340 00:19:41,387 --> 00:19:43,347 when there were a lot of accusations 341 00:19:43,347 --> 00:19:47,226 and charges flying around, all reflecting these suspicions of something that 342 00:19:47,226 --> 00:19:51,105 went deeply wrong, charges of foreign intervention, charges of machines, 343 00:19:51,105 --> 00:19:53,774 you and your organization were kind of dead silent. 344 00:19:53,858 --> 00:19:58,029 I got the impression that you were looking for a different approach. 345 00:19:58,070 --> 00:20:02,950 Given the outliers that were introduced in such a major way in 2020, 346 00:20:03,409 --> 00:20:07,997 namely the privately funded drop boxes, the mass mailout of ballots. 347 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:12,919 The hypothesis was if you were going to cheat, how might one go about this? 348 00:20:13,419 --> 00:20:16,797 That would be provable, trackable, traceable. 349 00:20:16,839 --> 00:20:19,800 Do you said there might be some, let's just 350 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,846 call them "bad actors", who are delivering ballots 351 00:20:24,722 --> 00:20:29,477 systematically and illicitly to these mail and drop boxes 352 00:20:29,727 --> 00:20:33,147 and there might be a way to track them and to bust them. 353 00:20:33,272 --> 00:20:33,940 We didn't know. 354 00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:36,484 We decided we're going to let the data tell the tale. 355 00:20:36,734 --> 00:20:41,072 And we collected together a team of highly skilled contractors 356 00:20:41,656 --> 00:20:44,617 and put together a plan to see where the data would take us. 357 00:20:46,369 --> 00:20:49,121 What Greg is geotracking ? 358 00:20:49,872 --> 00:20:55,127 So the idea is to collect the signals that are emitted from your phone. 359 00:20:55,378 --> 00:21:00,591 Your cell phone is delivering information to apps that are collecting that thing. 360 00:21:00,591 --> 00:21:05,680 So there are four key coordinates, the lat/long, the elevation and the time. 361 00:21:06,555 --> 00:21:08,724 And with that data, we can then 362 00:21:08,724 --> 00:21:12,561 build a pattern of life around you so that phones here right now. 363 00:21:12,561 --> 00:21:14,730 Well, where's it going to be at 5:00? 364 00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:16,148 And where's it going to be tonight? 365 00:21:16,148 --> 00:21:18,234 Well, here's my cell phone, my cell phone is off. 366 00:21:18,234 --> 00:21:20,987 Can I be geotracked even with the cell phone being off? 367 00:21:21,278 --> 00:21:24,407 Possibly, depending on the apps depending on... 368 00:21:24,407 --> 00:21:27,493 That's what marketing companies do all day, every day. 369 00:21:27,702 --> 00:21:29,245 This is the point we were just at. 370 00:21:29,245 --> 00:21:31,747 We were at the Apple Store and CBS, 371 00:21:31,747 --> 00:21:35,626 and on both occasions they knew where you were, evidently. 372 00:21:35,626 --> 00:21:36,252 Absolutely. 373 00:21:36,252 --> 00:21:39,171 And they were telling you about specials. 374 00:21:39,213 --> 00:21:41,215 So people will have experience of this. 375 00:21:41,215 --> 00:21:45,428 There's 300,000 or so apps that gather that data 376 00:21:45,469 --> 00:21:47,221 and then they sell it to brokers. 377 00:21:47,221 --> 00:21:51,684 Isn't it also true that this geotracking has now become a vital tool 378 00:21:51,726 --> 00:21:56,397 for the military, for the intelligence agencies and for law enforcement? 379 00:21:56,397 --> 00:21:59,024 Indeed, they're using it almost every day. 380 00:21:59,316 --> 00:22:03,654 I'll say that there's no question amongst anyone that I know in the community 381 00:22:03,654 --> 00:22:08,033 that many, if not all of the people that were involved 382 00:22:08,117 --> 00:22:13,831 in the situation at the Capitol on January sixth, were being tracked previous 383 00:22:13,831 --> 00:22:18,377 to January 6th because they already knew what their pattern of life was. 384 00:22:18,377 --> 00:22:20,421 They already knew who to look at. 385 00:22:20,421 --> 00:22:23,841 Many of the people who stormed the US Capitol on January six left 386 00:22:23,841 --> 00:22:28,095 digital footprints that law enforcement has used in making arrests. 387 00:22:28,095 --> 00:22:32,558 You're saying they must have known about these people before 388 00:22:32,558 --> 00:22:36,896 because some of those guys were arrested one day, three days, five days 389 00:22:36,896 --> 00:22:40,232 after January 6th, and that's not enough time 390 00:22:40,232 --> 00:22:43,694 to do the geotracking analysis. 391 00:22:43,861 --> 00:22:48,908 The very idea that you could go from the afternoon of January 6th 392 00:22:49,074 --> 00:22:53,829 to acquiring the data, tracking the data, unmask 393 00:22:53,829 --> 00:22:57,333 who actually owns that phone, which the government is required to do, 394 00:22:57,791 --> 00:23:01,921 and then get it to a grand jury, make an arrest in 72 hours. 395 00:23:02,421 --> 00:23:04,548 Impossible - It's not possible. 396 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,551 They had to have been tracking the people in advance. 397 00:23:07,927 --> 00:23:11,222 But the fact of the matter is, these techniques are used 398 00:23:11,222 --> 00:23:15,226 every single day by law enforcement, intelligence community, 399 00:23:15,226 --> 00:23:20,064 the Department of Defense. - Was geo tracking part of the way 400 00:23:20,231 --> 00:23:23,984 that the CIA was able to identify bin Laden ? 401 00:23:24,026 --> 00:23:25,486 It certainly played a role. 402 00:23:25,486 --> 00:23:29,949 It's even more sophisticated today than it was when bin Laden was disposed of. 403 00:23:29,949 --> 00:23:33,118 More and more apps are participating in this. 404 00:23:33,327 --> 00:23:36,497 This program, if you will. - The reliability 405 00:23:36,497 --> 00:23:39,792 of geotracking is not substantially different 406 00:23:39,792 --> 00:23:43,337 from the reliability of a fingerprint or the reliability of DNA. 407 00:23:43,963 --> 00:23:47,883 If it identifies your phone, I could have given my phone to Debbie. 408 00:23:48,175 --> 00:23:51,053 But the simple truth of it is my phone was there 409 00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:55,349 on this particular date, and there's absolutely no question about that. 410 00:23:55,808 --> 00:23:59,520 Now, you decided to purchase through these brokers, 411 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,022 - that make this information available to companies, 412 00:24:02,022 --> 00:24:05,818 they make it available all kinds of places -, to buy data. 413 00:24:07,236 --> 00:24:08,654 Let's talk about the methodology. 414 00:24:08,654 --> 00:24:12,908 You identified data in certain places, and by and large, 415 00:24:12,908 --> 00:24:15,369 you focused on the states where the election was decided. 416 00:24:16,036 --> 00:24:18,914 Tell us, what are the areas that you bought data for 417 00:24:18,914 --> 00:24:21,500 and what were you looking for, and what's the time period? 418 00:24:21,792 --> 00:24:24,670 October 1st through the election. In Georgia, 419 00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:29,591 we actually bought from October 1st through January 6th after the runoff. 420 00:24:30,843 --> 00:24:32,678 So we went in, 421 00:24:32,678 --> 00:24:37,850 we decided to do the Atlanta metro area because it picks up some rural areas. 422 00:24:37,850 --> 00:24:41,020 It picks up some urban areas and picks up some suburban areas. 423 00:24:41,020 --> 00:24:43,605 309 drop boxes in the area. 424 00:24:43,772 --> 00:24:45,941 So we thought, okay, well, this is a pretty good test. 425 00:24:45,941 --> 00:24:51,822 We, in essence, sort of fenced around those. Geofencing. 426 00:24:51,822 --> 00:24:55,534 And then we were able to purchase the data 427 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,830 of people that had been near those drop boxes, 428 00:24:59,830 --> 00:25:03,375 but also near the organizations. Across the country, 429 00:25:03,375 --> 00:25:05,502 we bought 10 trillion signals. 430 00:25:05,878 --> 00:25:09,381 When they give you this data, this data that you then have to go through. 431 00:25:09,465 --> 00:25:10,883 What does this data look like? 432 00:25:10,883 --> 00:25:12,885 That's a massive data transfer. 433 00:25:12,968 --> 00:25:14,720 We have more than a petabyte of data. 434 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,265 You're talking about transacting hundreds of terabytes. 435 00:25:18,265 --> 00:25:20,809 So it's a significant move of data. 436 00:25:21,143 --> 00:25:22,478 You have 10 trillion signals, 437 00:25:22,478 --> 00:25:24,313 that's a lot of signals. 438 00:25:24,313 --> 00:25:28,400 So what was the criteria that you... - The final decision was 439 00:25:28,692 --> 00:25:29,985 they had to have been to ten 440 00:25:29,985 --> 00:25:33,906 or more drop boxes, - meaning unique visits inside of a space -, 441 00:25:33,906 --> 00:25:37,951 and five or more visits to one or more of these organizations. 442 00:25:38,202 --> 00:25:39,369 Those were the outliers. 443 00:25:39,369 --> 00:25:41,413 It was such an aberrant pattern. 444 00:25:41,538 --> 00:25:42,289 So what you're saying, 445 00:25:42,289 --> 00:25:45,584 I mean, it seems to me there's no reason for someone to go even to drop boxes. 446 00:25:45,584 --> 00:25:49,213 But you're saying that maybe there's a conceivable reason someone did that, 447 00:25:49,421 --> 00:25:54,009 let's identify a large number of drop boxes and multiple trips 448 00:25:54,259 --> 00:25:57,846 and that way we're going to catch not all the offenders, 449 00:25:57,846 --> 00:25:59,765 right, but the worst offenders. 450 00:25:59,765 --> 00:26:04,478 The way we would describe it is we want to absolutely ensure that we don't have 451 00:26:04,478 --> 00:26:09,233 false positives, meaning including people that should not have been included. 452 00:26:09,233 --> 00:26:12,402 We're not in any way saying that this is all there is. 453 00:26:12,986 --> 00:26:15,405 We're just saying that based on our criteria 454 00:26:16,281 --> 00:26:18,450 that we identified in Atlanta. 455 00:26:18,450 --> 00:26:23,997 242 people that went to an average of 24 drop boxes 456 00:26:24,915 --> 00:26:28,210 and eight organizations during a two week period. 457 00:26:28,627 --> 00:26:31,838 242 "mules". 458 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,340 Now, let's pause for a second. 459 00:26:34,424 --> 00:26:36,260 What is a "mule"? 460 00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:37,928 When we started the project, we had to figure out 461 00:26:37,928 --> 00:26:41,014 how are we going to describe the individuals 462 00:26:41,014 --> 00:26:45,727 and the elements involved, and to us it felt a lot like a cartel. 463 00:26:45,769 --> 00:26:47,604 It felt a lot like trafficking. 464 00:26:47,604 --> 00:26:50,899 It can be trafficking in drugs, trafficking in humans. 465 00:26:51,692 --> 00:26:53,402 In this instance, it's ballot trafficking. 466 00:26:53,402 --> 00:26:57,614 And so we began to use that vernacular, a "mule" is, 467 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,327 by our definition, a person that is involved in picking up ballots 468 00:27:02,536 --> 00:27:05,831 from locations and running them to the drop boxes. 469 00:27:06,123 --> 00:27:08,125 So you have the collectors on the one hand, 470 00:27:08,125 --> 00:27:10,419 you have the stash houses, 471 00:27:10,419 --> 00:27:14,631 which are the nonprofits, and then you have the mules that are doing the drops. 472 00:27:14,673 --> 00:27:16,842 What do we know about them? 473 00:27:16,883 --> 00:27:17,592 Who are they? 474 00:27:17,592 --> 00:27:21,013 Well, first, let me say this is not the grandma out walking her dog. 475 00:27:21,096 --> 00:27:23,223 Their backgrounds bear reputations. 476 00:27:23,265 --> 00:27:27,436 We've had encounters with several that are, you know, not terribly positive. 477 00:27:27,811 --> 00:27:29,980 Violent guys ? - Can be. 478 00:27:29,980 --> 00:27:32,357 They are interested in one thing. 479 00:27:32,357 --> 00:27:33,025 That's money. 480 00:27:33,025 --> 00:27:34,901 Do we know, by the way, how much they get paid ? 481 00:27:34,901 --> 00:27:38,238 According to the people that have shared information with us, 482 00:27:38,655 --> 00:27:42,451 it's generally $10 a ballot. In the Georgia runoff, 483 00:27:42,492 --> 00:27:43,577 that number was higher. 484 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,332 2020, of course, was 485 00:27:48,332 --> 00:27:52,252 the year of the Antifa riots, the BLM riots. 486 00:27:52,252 --> 00:27:56,214 And it was all going on in the months and weeks leading up to the election. 487 00:27:56,256 --> 00:27:56,715 Right. 488 00:27:56,798 --> 00:28:01,803 And so in the data, you have geotracking data up the drop boxes. 489 00:28:02,429 --> 00:28:06,099 But you also have data on the rioters. 490 00:28:06,183 --> 00:28:11,605 There were several different violent BLM Antifa riots in Atlanta. 491 00:28:11,605 --> 00:28:14,399 And one of them, we had three dozen 492 00:28:14,983 --> 00:28:18,153 of our mules participate in these violent riots. 493 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,823 There's an organization that tracks the device IDs 494 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:24,826 across all violent protests around the world. 495 00:28:25,077 --> 00:28:28,038 We took a look at our 242 496 00:28:28,038 --> 00:28:31,708 mules in Atlanta, and sure enough, dozens and dozens 497 00:28:31,708 --> 00:28:37,047 and dozens of our mules show up on the ACLED databases. 498 00:28:37,255 --> 00:28:39,549 So, again, this is not grandma walking her dog. 499 00:28:39,549 --> 00:28:41,551 These are, you know, violent criminals, sometimes. 500 00:28:41,551 --> 00:28:43,386 There's not just a criminal element, 501 00:28:43,386 --> 00:28:47,015 but there is an ideological element and there's an overlap between people. 502 00:28:47,015 --> 00:28:51,061 I mean, you're not going to go in and Antifa riot and find it overpopulated 503 00:28:51,061 --> 00:28:56,733 with patriots or Christians or Republicans. These are people generally on the far left. 504 00:28:57,234 --> 00:29:01,571 And turns out that these are people who also helped to make up the mule 505 00:29:01,571 --> 00:29:02,364 population. 506 00:29:02,364 --> 00:29:05,367 I think that's also borne out in our target 507 00:29:05,367 --> 00:29:09,496 organizations themselves, do not like Republican organizations either. 508 00:29:09,496 --> 00:29:11,456 Left wing Democratic organizations. 509 00:29:11,456 --> 00:29:13,500 Well, let's zoom in here. 510 00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:16,628 So the mule is the delivery man, or delivery woman. 511 00:29:17,003 --> 00:29:20,465 And what you're saying is they have a starting point or multiple 512 00:29:20,465 --> 00:29:22,384 starting points, and then they have the end point. 513 00:29:22,384 --> 00:29:24,719 And the end point is the drop box. Right. Right. That's right. 514 00:29:24,719 --> 00:29:28,098 But you're saying that they get the ballots from somewhere 515 00:29:28,515 --> 00:29:32,811 and then they go deposit them in multiple drop boxes. 516 00:29:32,811 --> 00:29:34,312 Right, one of the questions 517 00:29:34,312 --> 00:29:36,314 that will come up in the work that we've done is, 518 00:29:36,314 --> 00:29:36,940 "how do you know that 519 00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:39,150 "this wasn't just somebody that's got a big family 520 00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:40,902 and they just deposited a bunch of ballots ones?" 521 00:29:40,902 --> 00:29:44,698 Or "how do you know that this person didn't just work at a location 522 00:29:44,698 --> 00:29:45,782 "that is near a drop box, 523 00:29:45,782 --> 00:29:47,534 and so they're constantly going by a drop box ?" 524 00:29:47,534 --> 00:29:51,746 And the elements that are additive here, the going to the nonprofits. 525 00:29:51,746 --> 00:29:55,667 The ability to identify the pattern of approach to a drop box 526 00:29:55,667 --> 00:29:59,921 and that it is going not past drop box and on, but directly to a drop box, 527 00:29:59,921 --> 00:30:03,550 and back to another point and then to another drop box, 528 00:30:03,550 --> 00:30:04,843 all of these things. 529 00:30:04,843 --> 00:30:08,847 I mean, isn't the timing significant of some guys going to a drop box at 2 a.m. 530 00:30:08,847 --> 00:30:10,098 in the morning? 531 00:30:10,098 --> 00:30:12,892 Presumably he's not like out for a walk ? - Right 532 00:30:13,101 --> 00:30:13,935 So we're going to show you 533 00:30:13,935 --> 00:30:17,897 a visual pattern of life that someone can see and look at rather 534 00:30:17,897 --> 00:30:22,527 than just a whole spreadsheet of numbers. Being able to look at it in this manner. 535 00:30:23,236 --> 00:30:28,450 What you see here on the screen is a single person on a single day 536 00:30:28,575 --> 00:30:32,078 in Atlanta, Georgia, they went to 28 drop boxes 537 00:30:32,078 --> 00:30:35,081 and five organizations in one day. 538 00:30:35,332 --> 00:30:37,125 What are the orange dots? 539 00:30:37,125 --> 00:30:38,293 Those are drop boxes. 540 00:30:39,461 --> 00:30:41,838 And what is the blue tracks 541 00:30:42,005 --> 00:30:46,551 that is a smoothed out pattern of life so that we could take the sort 542 00:30:46,551 --> 00:30:49,804 of the movement of the individual cell phone signals, 543 00:30:50,305 --> 00:30:53,099 marry them together into something that's visual 544 00:30:53,433 --> 00:30:55,810 so that you can see movement on the individual. 545 00:30:56,144 --> 00:30:58,229 To get to some of these drop boxes. 546 00:30:58,229 --> 00:31:00,106 You had to be intentional. 547 00:31:00,106 --> 00:31:03,777 You had to get off the highway to go on surface street. 548 00:31:03,777 --> 00:31:07,989 You had to turn in somewhere in order to get to those drop boxes. 549 00:31:08,156 --> 00:31:12,994 And the circles I take it reflect the nonprofit center is lot to places 550 00:31:12,994 --> 00:31:17,624 where the ballots originate, the stash houses, where the ballots are collected 551 00:31:17,791 --> 00:31:21,002 and handed to the mules to take to the drop boxes. 552 00:31:21,044 --> 00:31:23,254 Now, let's move over to Arizona. 553 00:31:23,338 --> 00:31:25,757 How many mules in Arizona? A little over 200. 554 00:31:26,007 --> 00:31:28,009 A little over 200 in Phenix alone. 555 00:31:28,218 --> 00:31:30,386 The reason I think this is all very significant 556 00:31:30,386 --> 00:31:33,973 is because these are very close states. 557 00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:36,226 Right ? What was the margin in Georgia? 558 00:31:37,602 --> 00:31:39,646 10,000 or 11,000, I think in the end. 559 00:31:39,646 --> 00:31:40,271 In the end. 560 00:31:40,271 --> 00:31:42,565 And Arizona also extremely close. 561 00:31:42,690 --> 00:31:44,192 Very close. 562 00:31:44,651 --> 00:31:46,778 Then you moved on to ? - Wisconsin. 563 00:31:46,778 --> 00:31:49,114 But our initial look was in Milwaukee. 564 00:31:49,364 --> 00:31:51,199 Gross numbers were a little down, but 565 00:31:51,199 --> 00:31:55,411 the average number of visits to the drop boxes was up. 566 00:31:55,453 --> 00:31:59,374 So instead of having only 24 unique visits, I think we averaged 28. 567 00:31:59,624 --> 00:32:02,752 I mean, maybe I've heard people in Milwaukee are really hard working 568 00:32:02,752 --> 00:32:06,172 and maybe they just went overtime. And then let's go to Michigan. 569 00:32:07,090 --> 00:32:10,510 We have more than 500 mules that we've identified in Michigan. 570 00:32:10,844 --> 00:32:13,513 Again, the number of boxes is lower. 571 00:32:13,555 --> 00:32:17,934 Now where in Michigan ? - Detroit mainly, but we have people in Detroit 572 00:32:17,934 --> 00:32:21,437 that went to more than 100 drop boxes. 573 00:32:22,063 --> 00:32:25,817 I mean, this is stunning because I cannot think 574 00:32:25,817 --> 00:32:29,571 of a rational and innocent reason for someone to do that. 575 00:32:29,612 --> 00:32:30,655 It just doesn't exist. 576 00:32:30,655 --> 00:32:34,659 So any reasonable person would say, you're on to something big. 577 00:32:34,659 --> 00:32:36,077 You should take a closer look. 578 00:32:36,077 --> 00:32:38,371 Let's go to Pennsylvania, a critical state. 579 00:32:38,663 --> 00:32:41,875 I think it was Pennsylvania that really gave Biden the election. 580 00:32:41,875 --> 00:32:45,670 In Philadelphia alone, we've identified more 581 00:32:45,670 --> 00:32:49,924 than 1100 mules, at rates 582 00:32:49,924 --> 00:32:51,926 well beyond anything we had seen, 583 00:32:52,969 --> 00:32:55,221 closer to 50 drop boxes each. 584 00:32:55,847 --> 00:32:58,057 Each guy going to 50 drop boxes ? - Each. 585 00:32:58,391 --> 00:32:59,684 1100. 586 00:32:59,684 --> 00:33:03,521 We saw people driving back and forth to New Jersey across the bridge. 587 00:33:03,938 --> 00:33:07,066 You're saying the ballots may not even be from Philadelphia or from Pennsylvania. 588 00:33:07,066 --> 00:33:11,070 We're seeing somebody should investigate. - That the origin point appears to be Jersey. 589 00:33:11,988 --> 00:33:14,198 Now running 1100 mules times 50. 590 00:33:14,198 --> 00:33:19,787 We are 50,000 drop box visits by the mules alone in Philadelphia. 591 00:33:19,954 --> 00:33:22,332 Or Greater Philadelphia area. 592 00:33:22,332 --> 00:33:27,086 Now, as you were assessing this data, you had the two of you and I'm not sure 593 00:33:27,086 --> 00:33:32,216 which of you came up with this ingenious idea in my view... 594 00:33:32,383 --> 00:33:33,343 it was yours ? 595 00:33:35,553 --> 00:33:36,763 of course you have ! 596 00:33:36,763 --> 00:33:40,183 Well to validate your data... 597 00:33:40,224 --> 00:33:43,353 We chose to look at two murders 598 00:33:43,728 --> 00:33:46,606 that were ending on cold case status. 599 00:33:46,606 --> 00:33:51,611 And in Atlanta, eight year old Zachariah Turner was killed by rounds of gunfire 600 00:33:51,611 --> 00:33:55,573 shot into a car that happened just outside this Wendy's parking lot. 601 00:33:55,656 --> 00:33:57,533 Bought the data and the team got to work. 602 00:33:58,618 --> 00:33:58,993 You could 603 00:33:58,993 --> 00:34:02,747 see visually that there were only a handful 604 00:34:02,747 --> 00:34:06,584 of unique devices that could possibly have pulled the trigger. 605 00:34:06,959 --> 00:34:11,089 So this is the area and this is where the Wendy's was. 606 00:34:11,214 --> 00:34:13,966 And are you saying that each green dot 607 00:34:14,133 --> 00:34:17,095 is the same guy, but moving through time? 608 00:34:17,136 --> 00:34:19,180 Each color is one person. 609 00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:23,309 The shooting actually occurred right here in this parking lot. 610 00:34:23,393 --> 00:34:25,436 Sort of inside of this circle. 611 00:34:25,978 --> 00:34:29,273 Really the only potentially legitimate shooters. 612 00:34:29,774 --> 00:34:32,360 Each of these devices has a unique 613 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,613 device ID and we turned the bulk 614 00:34:35,613 --> 00:34:39,158 of this information over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 615 00:34:39,283 --> 00:34:42,245 Now, I read they've arrested two suspects. 616 00:34:42,245 --> 00:34:46,290 I have two suspected gang members will appear in court this morning 617 00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:50,086 on charges that include the shooting death of eight year old Zachariah Turner. 618 00:34:50,711 --> 00:34:53,673 And isn't it true that tracking these movements, 619 00:34:54,090 --> 00:34:57,135 this parallels exactly the work you're doing with the mules? 620 00:34:57,677 --> 00:34:58,511 Exactly. 621 00:34:58,803 --> 00:35:02,181 It's one thing to have the scientific evidence 622 00:35:02,181 --> 00:35:04,725 which is persuasive on its own merits. 623 00:35:04,976 --> 00:35:07,311 But do you have video evidence? 624 00:35:08,146 --> 00:35:10,273 We do. - How much of it do you have? 625 00:35:10,815 --> 00:35:13,818 4 million minutes of surveillance video around the country. 626 00:35:14,110 --> 00:35:17,280 Official surveillance video of these 627 00:35:17,572 --> 00:35:19,657 mail in drop boxes? - Yes. 628 00:35:20,324 --> 00:35:21,909 How do you get it? 629 00:35:21,951 --> 00:35:24,370 You can file for open records request. 630 00:35:24,370 --> 00:35:25,830 Any citizen can do this. 631 00:35:25,830 --> 00:35:30,334 It was a very difficult series of steps that had to be followed 632 00:35:30,585 --> 00:35:34,088 to procure the actual surveillance video. - You have video in Georgia ? 633 00:35:34,463 --> 00:35:35,173 We do. 634 00:35:35,423 --> 00:35:40,428 Is it video from the presidential election, the run off election or both? 635 00:35:40,678 --> 00:35:42,847 Both. - Do you have video from other states? 636 00:35:43,139 --> 00:35:44,849 Some video from Arizona. 637 00:35:44,849 --> 00:35:48,728 We have recently learned video was specifically turned off 638 00:35:49,395 --> 00:35:51,939 on particular drop boxes. - In which state? 639 00:35:51,939 --> 00:35:52,940 Arizona. 640 00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:58,487 Wisconsin, it turns out, even though the rules require them to have video. 641 00:35:58,487 --> 00:35:59,488 Did they do the video? 642 00:35:59,488 --> 00:36:00,489 No, they did not. 643 00:36:00,489 --> 00:36:02,909 There should be video on every drop box. 644 00:36:03,326 --> 00:36:05,953 Given today's kind of cost of technology, 645 00:36:05,953 --> 00:36:07,872 it would not have been that hard to do it. 646 00:36:07,872 --> 00:36:12,168 And you sent me a screenshot, Katherine, where you were requesting video, 647 00:36:12,543 --> 00:36:17,173 and I believe it was the state of Georgia saying this video does not exist 648 00:36:17,173 --> 00:36:19,842 and we can't tell you why it doesn't exist. - Right. 649 00:36:19,842 --> 00:36:22,887 That was in Fulton County. We have correspondence 650 00:36:22,887 --> 00:36:26,307 like that from a lot of states, in the absence of video. 651 00:36:26,307 --> 00:36:31,354 And that geospatial data is key to decoding what the greater scheme was. 652 00:36:31,646 --> 00:36:35,358 But in the case of what we're going to show you now, what kicks it up a notch 653 00:36:35,358 --> 00:36:39,403 is that we have the geospatial data to support the video. 654 00:36:39,528 --> 00:36:41,322 Let's talk about some of the videos. 655 00:36:41,322 --> 00:36:43,032 So we're going to show you a couple of different ones. 656 00:36:43,032 --> 00:36:46,786 This particular individual we have in a number of different 657 00:36:46,786 --> 00:36:49,538 locations, in a number of different times, he's actually a mule 658 00:36:50,706 --> 00:36:51,248 This is the 659 00:36:51,248 --> 00:36:55,002 official surveillance video of Georgia ? 660 00:36:55,086 --> 00:36:55,920 Absolutely. 661 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,964 And so as the person pulls up, they don't even bother parking. 662 00:36:59,382 --> 00:37:00,591 Of course, in the middle of the night. 663 00:37:00,591 --> 00:37:03,219 So why would they? And gets out. 664 00:37:03,219 --> 00:37:05,262 Approaches the box. 665 00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:10,810 When people walk up with intention to cheat, they look around. 666 00:37:10,851 --> 00:37:12,978 They basically walk fairly quickly. 667 00:37:12,978 --> 00:37:15,064 They try to stuff it in, they try to get out of there. 668 00:37:15,231 --> 00:37:18,317 In this case, he drops a few on the ground, 669 00:37:18,317 --> 00:37:21,737 pick them up, stuff them into the box. 670 00:37:24,073 --> 00:37:26,534 And then he hustles back and hustles out of there. 671 00:37:26,534 --> 00:37:28,702 So this is what it looks like. 672 00:37:28,744 --> 00:37:33,999 It doesn't necessarily look like, you know, hundreds of ballots being stuffed in. 673 00:37:33,999 --> 00:37:35,209 You don't need a whole lot of fraud. 674 00:37:35,209 --> 00:37:37,294 Just need a little in the right places over time. 675 00:37:37,336 --> 00:37:40,214 Is there a way to estimate, even roughly, 676 00:37:40,548 --> 00:37:43,676 how many ballots are being tossed into a box at a given time? 677 00:37:43,759 --> 00:37:47,388 It might be three or five or six or ten or something like that. 678 00:37:47,471 --> 00:37:49,682 The idea is to stay under the radar. 679 00:37:49,723 --> 00:37:53,519 And as Greg said, the number is, you know, three, five, ten ballots. 680 00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:55,980 But then they're not done for the day either. 681 00:37:56,355 --> 00:37:59,859 They're going place to place to place, day upon day upon day. 682 00:37:59,859 --> 00:38:04,071 And so that will not show up in your chain of custody documents, 683 00:38:04,071 --> 00:38:07,074 your tracking documents that would identify a big blip. 684 00:38:07,158 --> 00:38:11,203 I mean, they're not going up and dumping in, you know, buckets full of ballots 685 00:38:11,954 --> 00:38:15,249 On the other hand, we've seen circumstances 686 00:38:15,249 --> 00:38:19,128 where it appears that buckets full of ballots showed up. 687 00:38:19,545 --> 00:38:22,047 There's one box in Gwinnett County 688 00:38:22,715 --> 00:38:25,426 that had a chain of custody document 689 00:38:25,426 --> 00:38:29,555 with 1962 ballots noted on this. 690 00:38:29,555 --> 00:38:32,641 And first of all, that's roughly ten times what we normally see. 691 00:38:33,642 --> 00:38:34,727 We sorted through 692 00:38:34,727 --> 00:38:37,938 the geo data, found a few hundred people. 693 00:38:38,022 --> 00:38:38,564 Okay. 694 00:38:38,564 --> 00:38:39,523 Well, that's pretty odd. 695 00:38:39,523 --> 00:38:42,693 We have video of all of this 696 00:38:42,735 --> 00:38:44,361 And guess what it shows. 697 00:38:44,904 --> 00:38:47,656 271 people approached that 698 00:38:47,656 --> 00:38:50,659 ballot drop box during that 25 hour period. 699 00:38:51,493 --> 00:38:55,456 271. 1962 700 00:38:55,456 --> 00:38:57,583 ballots were deposited. Wow. 701 00:39:01,086 --> 00:39:04,298 Here are election officials pulling out of that drop box, 702 00:39:04,590 --> 00:39:07,259 two full duffel bags containing over 703 00:39:07,426 --> 00:39:10,846 1900 ballots. 704 00:39:10,846 --> 00:39:11,722 Let's look at another one. 705 00:39:11,722 --> 00:39:15,225 Let's take a look at an interesting thing about this person is 706 00:39:15,225 --> 00:39:17,978 the device seems to live in South Carolina. 707 00:39:18,562 --> 00:39:21,231 So this person isn't even from Georgia. 708 00:39:21,857 --> 00:39:24,777 She was here during both election cycles, 709 00:39:25,277 --> 00:39:27,821 but is not a resident of the state. 710 00:39:27,821 --> 00:39:29,949 But as she approaches the drop box, 711 00:39:30,908 --> 00:39:33,160 she never looks at the trash can. 712 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,870 Right. She's looking the other way. 713 00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:37,831 But the other thing is she has gloves on. 714 00:39:39,166 --> 00:39:40,125 One of our analysts 715 00:39:40,125 --> 00:39:43,754 noticed that the surgical gloves only appeared 716 00:39:44,129 --> 00:39:46,966 from December 23rd forward in the runoff. 717 00:39:47,591 --> 00:39:50,886 So we didn't see a lot of them previous to December 23rd 718 00:39:51,345 --> 00:39:52,930 and we couldn't figure out why. 719 00:39:52,930 --> 00:39:58,435 And then it just dawned on us, on December 22nd, there was an indictment 720 00:39:58,435 --> 00:40:02,314 handed down in Arizona for people that had stuffed ballots. 721 00:40:02,523 --> 00:40:06,068 And the way the FBI nailed them was fingerprints. 722 00:40:06,735 --> 00:40:10,572 And then lo and behold, the next day and days forward... 723 00:40:10,656 --> 00:40:13,075 So this video is now from the Georgia runoffs. 724 00:40:13,409 --> 00:40:18,247 This was January of 2021. - This one is at approximately 1:00 in the morning. 725 00:40:18,580 --> 00:40:21,375 on January the fifth. - She stuffs the ballots in there. 726 00:40:21,792 --> 00:40:22,835 It's like a small stack. 727 00:40:22,835 --> 00:40:25,212 It's maybe three, maybe four, takes the gloves off 728 00:40:26,755 --> 00:40:28,006 and then puts it in the trash can 729 00:40:28,006 --> 00:40:28,799 that she never looked at. 730 00:40:30,467 --> 00:40:31,510 So she knew it was there. 731 00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:32,886 She knew it was there, right. 732 00:40:32,886 --> 00:40:35,264 And so we have her in a number of locations. 733 00:40:35,389 --> 00:40:37,099 She's an out-of-state mule. 734 00:40:37,099 --> 00:40:40,519 And this is a no way the only drop box that she attended ? 735 00:40:40,602 --> 00:40:41,103 That's right. 736 00:40:41,103 --> 00:40:46,608 No, she goes to dozens and dozens over the course of these two elections. 737 00:40:46,650 --> 00:40:47,776 Who's next ? 738 00:40:48,318 --> 00:40:51,405 What you're going to see as he approaches the drop box on his bike, 739 00:40:52,698 --> 00:40:54,616 he also has a backpack on, 740 00:40:54,616 --> 00:40:57,244 pulls the ballots out of his backpack. 741 00:40:57,911 --> 00:41:00,497 Taking his time, digging around, 742 00:41:00,706 --> 00:41:03,792 looking for some ballots, finally pulls them out. 743 00:41:04,001 --> 00:41:06,670 Now he's set and he puts them in 744 00:41:08,881 --> 00:41:10,549 But you also see him get sort of 745 00:41:10,549 --> 00:41:13,886 frustrated as he starts to leave, because guess what? 746 00:41:14,636 --> 00:41:18,223 At this point, they had started requiring the mules, apparently, 747 00:41:18,682 --> 00:41:21,643 to take pictures of the stuffing of the ballots. 748 00:41:21,852 --> 00:41:23,645 It appears that that's how they get paid. 749 00:41:24,730 --> 00:41:27,608 So they take a picture, stuff it in, 750 00:41:27,649 --> 00:41:31,028 not a selfie, but a picture of the actual ballot going in. 751 00:41:31,695 --> 00:41:35,657 But this guy gets frustrated, so he actually has to park his bike, get off. 752 00:41:36,158 --> 00:41:40,162 So if you were there just casting your own ballot, what reason in the world 753 00:41:40,162 --> 00:41:44,458 would you have to come back and take a picture of the box? 754 00:41:45,792 --> 00:41:48,295 And he kneels down looking around 755 00:41:49,504 --> 00:41:51,256 and takes some pictures. 756 00:41:51,256 --> 00:41:52,299 Okay. The next one. 757 00:41:52,299 --> 00:41:54,259 So let me show you dog guy. 758 00:41:54,259 --> 00:41:57,095 So dog guy, middle of the day. 759 00:41:57,429 --> 00:41:59,223 This is actually at a polling place. 760 00:41:59,223 --> 00:42:03,518 So the people in line are waiting to go in and vote early. 761 00:42:03,769 --> 00:42:05,229 They're doing it the right way. 762 00:42:05,229 --> 00:42:07,606 Okay, now, you've got some other people going to walk up. 763 00:42:08,941 --> 00:42:09,524 This lady 764 00:42:09,524 --> 00:42:12,236 didn't care, but this guy, this next guy cared. 765 00:42:13,028 --> 00:42:15,072 He's watching the whole thing. 766 00:42:15,072 --> 00:42:18,450 This guy looks up, talks to him. - Got the ballots under his arm already. 767 00:42:18,450 --> 00:42:20,619 Now he's got the rest that he pulled out of the bag, 768 00:42:21,787 --> 00:42:24,206 And he's going to get his camera ready to take the pictures 769 00:42:24,206 --> 00:42:28,335 as he puts them in there. If you consider the brazenness of this. 770 00:42:28,335 --> 00:42:30,337 Right. This is the middle of the day. 771 00:42:30,337 --> 00:42:34,007 There's people sitting there watching you cheat, 772 00:42:34,007 --> 00:42:36,718 people that are doing it the right way. 773 00:42:36,718 --> 00:42:38,720 But it's difficult for them to know what to do 774 00:42:38,929 --> 00:42:41,723 except observe and maybe say, "what's going on here?", 775 00:42:41,723 --> 00:42:45,102 "what did I just see?" - They wonder, "what does this all even mean ?", 776 00:42:45,102 --> 00:42:48,480 if this is happening in broad daylight and nobody is doing anything to stop it. 777 00:42:50,983 --> 00:42:51,733 And so these are the 778 00:42:51,733 --> 00:42:54,695 kind of things, 4 million minutes of this. 779 00:42:54,987 --> 00:42:59,992 This was an organized effort to subvert a free and fair election. 780 00:43:00,409 --> 00:43:01,952 This is organized crime. 781 00:43:01,952 --> 00:43:04,997 You can't look at this data in its aggregate 782 00:43:05,622 --> 00:43:07,749 and believe anything otherwise. 783 00:43:08,792 --> 00:43:12,087 That's especially true when you consider that in places 784 00:43:12,087 --> 00:43:17,009 like Georgia, it was only decided by 10000, 12000 votes. 785 00:43:17,718 --> 00:43:23,348 And you look at 5000 visits just from our mules. 786 00:43:24,391 --> 00:43:26,935 It's not a leap 787 00:43:26,935 --> 00:43:30,105 to say, yes, this would have made a difference. 788 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,277 Adding these numbers up, we have 2000 plus mules. 789 00:43:35,986 --> 00:43:39,364 Based upon not searching these whole states 790 00:43:39,364 --> 00:43:42,284 and remember, we're only talking about a small number of states. 791 00:43:43,452 --> 00:43:45,787 We're not talking about the whole country. - We're not even talking about whole states. 792 00:43:45,787 --> 00:43:47,914 We're not even talking about whole states. - That's right. 793 00:43:47,914 --> 00:43:52,586 And we're also talking about a gross undercount of the actual number of mules. 794 00:43:52,586 --> 00:43:56,590 Because you set a high bar, they had to go to ten drop boxes. 795 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,468 So if there's a mule who went to seven drop boxes, 796 00:43:59,634 --> 00:44:01,887 you wouldn't catch that guy. - And they had to go to nonprofits. 797 00:44:01,887 --> 00:44:06,349 So they had to meet those two criteria and then go to one of the geofenced 798 00:44:06,349 --> 00:44:09,895 drop boxes. If they met the two criteria but went to a post office box, 799 00:44:09,895 --> 00:44:11,021 we're not going to look at them. 800 00:44:11,021 --> 00:44:14,191 One of the slogans of the Democrats through all this 801 00:44:14,775 --> 00:44:18,945 debate has been "make every vote count". 802 00:44:19,404 --> 00:44:23,742 And I think we can now see in a chilling way that this is kind of what they mean. 803 00:44:24,075 --> 00:44:28,538 What they mean is it doesn't matter if all kinds of illegal ballots 804 00:44:28,538 --> 00:44:30,790 are being dropped in, let's just count them. 805 00:44:30,999 --> 00:44:35,295 Now, the narrative needs to be that this is the most secure election. 806 00:44:35,295 --> 00:44:37,756 This is the most fabulous election we've ever had. 807 00:44:38,006 --> 00:44:43,094 Pay no mind to the millions of Americans that are saying something is not right. 808 00:44:43,094 --> 00:44:45,305 This does not make sense. 809 00:44:45,305 --> 00:44:47,557 Nothing to see here. Smile and wave, boys. 810 00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,728 I mean, wouldn't it be an accurate summary to say that these voter bills 811 00:44:51,895 --> 00:44:55,815 that the Democrats are desperate to enact, to federalize the election, isn't it 812 00:44:55,815 --> 00:44:58,568 that they want to take all these special provisions 813 00:44:58,860 --> 00:45:03,198 that have enabled what we've described or you've described in the 2020 election 814 00:45:03,573 --> 00:45:07,118 and make it permanent? - If we don't wake up 815 00:45:07,786 --> 00:45:10,664 and do the hard roll up your sleeves work 816 00:45:10,664 --> 00:45:13,750 that it's going to take to reel this all back together, then 817 00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:16,878 yes, all the pieces are in place for our election system 818 00:45:16,878 --> 00:45:18,505 to be in permanent lockdown 819 00:45:18,505 --> 00:45:19,547 and it will be done 820 00:45:19,547 --> 00:45:24,010 under the watchful eye of a media that will tell you it's all just fine. 821 00:45:24,261 --> 00:45:26,221 It seems like they are 822 00:45:26,221 --> 00:45:30,141 subverting democracy in the public pretense of protecting it. 823 00:45:30,392 --> 00:45:31,434 Absolutely. 824 00:45:31,434 --> 00:45:34,229 And it won't stop unless we stop it. 825 00:45:34,271 --> 00:45:37,148 If I look across the swath of Republicans 826 00:45:37,691 --> 00:45:40,860 this is not the kind of issue that they seem to be comfortable with. 827 00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:44,239 It's almost like they would rather endure. 828 00:45:44,322 --> 00:45:47,117 That's right. As I said, it's a it's a gamble, right? 829 00:45:47,117 --> 00:45:51,997 Because the ones that are enduring are currently elected and in power. 830 00:45:51,997 --> 00:45:56,710 When you watch these brazen acts and nobody says a word 831 00:45:56,918 --> 00:45:58,628 because they're scared that they're going to be sued, 832 00:45:58,628 --> 00:46:00,630 because they're scared that they're going to be canceled 833 00:46:00,630 --> 00:46:02,465 because they're scared that they're going to be silenced, 834 00:46:02,465 --> 00:46:06,302 that kind of chilling effect is exactly what they want. 835 00:46:06,344 --> 00:46:09,472 And as I said on the other side of fear is freedom. 836 00:46:09,764 --> 00:46:12,767 If you never get past the fear, you're never free. 837 00:46:14,394 --> 00:46:16,855 Let's sum up what we know 838 00:46:16,855 --> 00:46:20,567 do we know for sure that this was not, 839 00:46:20,692 --> 00:46:23,778 in fact, far from the most secure election in history? 840 00:46:24,070 --> 00:46:25,864 It was not. 841 00:46:26,114 --> 00:46:27,949 We know that for a fact. 842 00:46:27,949 --> 00:46:33,121 We know for a fact that there was a coordinated, systematic fraud 843 00:46:33,621 --> 00:46:37,542 in all the key states where the election was decided. 844 00:46:37,542 --> 00:46:39,919 Yes. Yes. 845 00:46:39,919 --> 00:46:42,213 And therefore, does it follow 846 00:46:42,213 --> 00:46:44,716 that the people who suspected fraud, 847 00:46:45,091 --> 00:46:48,136 even though they didn't have the proof, their suspicion was right? 848 00:46:48,636 --> 00:46:50,722 Absolutely. Their instincts are right. 849 00:46:51,181 --> 00:46:54,059 And moreover, that these states that are trying to do something 850 00:46:54,059 --> 00:46:59,189 about systematic fraud by restoring a modicum of let's 851 00:46:59,189 --> 00:47:03,276 call it the old rules, checking your voter ID, checking signatures, 852 00:47:03,943 --> 00:47:07,238 you want to mail in ballot, you don't want you got to request an absentee ballot. 853 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,575 We're not going to send 20 million ballots out there and see what comes back 854 00:47:10,992 --> 00:47:14,496 that these voter integrity lies far from being voter suppression, 855 00:47:15,163 --> 00:47:17,832 are actually a legitimate way to make sure 856 00:47:18,374 --> 00:47:21,336 that the people who vote are actually eligible to vote. 857 00:47:21,461 --> 00:47:24,172 100% accurate. That's absolutely correct. 858 00:48:00,458 --> 00:48:02,627 What you are seeing is a crime. 859 00:48:03,336 --> 00:48:05,547 These are fraudulent votes. 860 00:48:05,547 --> 00:48:09,634 In two of our five key states, you were allowed to give your ballot 861 00:48:09,634 --> 00:48:13,179 to be delivered by a family member or a caregiver. 862 00:48:13,388 --> 00:48:18,017 This is vote harvesting, but it's not the same as ballot trafficking. 863 00:48:18,142 --> 00:48:22,689 In no state in America Is it legal for nonprofit organizations 864 00:48:22,689 --> 00:48:26,985 to collect ballots and pay mules to deliver them to mail in 865 00:48:26,985 --> 00:48:29,279 drop boxes. 866 00:48:34,742 --> 00:48:38,663 Now we come to the most important question of all : was the magnitude 867 00:48:38,663 --> 00:48:42,417 of vote trafficking in these key swing states enough 868 00:48:42,542 --> 00:48:46,379 to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election? 869 00:48:46,629 --> 00:48:51,050 Let's first narrow in on just our 2000 mules. 870 00:48:51,676 --> 00:48:56,097 Their average number of drop box visits 38 that were average 871 00:48:56,097 --> 00:48:59,642 number of illegal ballots deposited per visit five. 872 00:48:59,976 --> 00:49:03,104 That's 380,000 illegal votes. 873 00:49:03,855 --> 00:49:06,524 But was this sufficient to put Biden in the White House. 874 00:49:06,858 --> 00:49:12,238 To answer that question we must look at each key state. In Michigan 875 00:49:13,323 --> 00:49:15,158 500 mules 876 00:49:15,158 --> 00:49:19,787 averaging 50 drop box visits and five illegal ballots per drop. 877 00:49:20,621 --> 00:49:24,208 That's 125,000 illegally trafficked votes. 878 00:49:24,375 --> 00:49:29,130 Not quite the 154,000 vote difference between Trump and Biden. 879 00:49:29,130 --> 00:49:32,133 So Michigan with its 16 electoral votes 880 00:49:32,383 --> 00:49:35,720 stays in the Biden column. In Wisconsin 881 00:49:36,179 --> 00:49:39,098 100 mules averaging 28 882 00:49:39,098 --> 00:49:42,894 drop box visits and five illegal ballots per drop. 883 00:49:43,061 --> 00:49:46,147 That's 14,000 illegally trafficked votes 884 00:49:46,647 --> 00:49:51,944 6000 votes short to give Trump the win, so using only our mules, 885 00:49:52,070 --> 00:49:56,491 Wisconsin's ten electoral votes stays in the Biden camp. 886 00:49:56,866 --> 00:50:00,578 But now we come to Georgia : 250 mules, 887 00:50:01,037 --> 00:50:05,541 averaging 24 drop box visits and five illegal ballots per drop. 888 00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:09,003 That's 30,000 illegally trafficked votes, 889 00:50:09,003 --> 00:50:13,257 far more than the 12,000 vote difference between Trump and Biden. 890 00:50:13,424 --> 00:50:18,346 So Georgia, with 16 electoral votes, moves over into the Trump column. 891 00:50:19,388 --> 00:50:21,682 In Arizona, the numbers are roughly the same. 892 00:50:22,183 --> 00:50:27,772 200 mules averaging 20 drop box visits and five illegal ballots per drop. 893 00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:30,358 That's 20,000 illegal votes again. 894 00:50:30,525 --> 00:50:35,029 These illegal votes are substantially more than the 10,000 vote margin 895 00:50:35,154 --> 00:50:40,743 that gave the states 11 electoral votes to Biden. In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 896 00:50:40,743 --> 00:50:43,704 alone : 1100 mules 897 00:50:43,996 --> 00:50:47,917 averaging 50 drop box visits and five ballots per visit. 898 00:50:48,042 --> 00:50:52,755 That's 275,000 illegal votes, again, comfortably 899 00:50:52,755 --> 00:50:57,009 exceeding the 80,000 vote margin between Trump and Biden. 900 00:50:57,051 --> 00:51:00,972 So Pennsylvania's 20 electoral votes goes for Trump. 901 00:51:02,348 --> 00:51:07,061 Shockingly, even this narrow way of looking at just 2000 mules 902 00:51:07,228 --> 00:51:12,108 in these swing states gives Trump the win, with 279 903 00:51:12,108 --> 00:51:15,486 electoral votes to Biden's 259 904 00:51:16,737 --> 00:51:19,031 But no one thinks that our 2000 mules 905 00:51:19,031 --> 00:51:21,826 were the only mules trafficking illegal votes. 906 00:51:22,577 --> 00:51:25,997 To widen the search, Greg and his team lowered the criterion 907 00:51:25,997 --> 00:51:29,500 from ten or more to five or more drop boxes. 908 00:51:29,709 --> 00:51:32,712 This revealed a huge upsurge in the number of mules 909 00:51:32,962 --> 00:51:37,633 from 2000 to 54,000 54,000 mules. 910 00:51:38,009 --> 00:51:40,720 Next, they used a very conservative estimate 911 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,347 of just three ballots per drop box visit. 912 00:51:44,098 --> 00:51:48,436 Now, when we multiply this increased number of mules times the five drop 913 00:51:48,436 --> 00:51:52,773 box visits per mule, times just three illegal votes per drop, 914 00:51:53,024 --> 00:51:56,402 we find election fraud on an astonishing scale. 915 00:51:56,611 --> 00:52:01,449 In Wisconsin, 83,565 illegal votes were trafficked. 916 00:52:01,699 --> 00:52:05,161 In Georgia 92,670. 917 00:52:05,161 --> 00:52:08,622 In Pennsylvania 209,505. 918 00:52:09,582 --> 00:52:12,960 In Michigan 226,590. 919 00:52:13,127 --> 00:52:17,256 And in Arizona, 207,435. 920 00:52:18,049 --> 00:52:21,927 Using this calculus, Trump would have won all the key states 921 00:52:22,303 --> 00:52:26,891 and the final electoral vote 305 to 233 922 00:52:28,809 --> 00:52:30,936 I wanted to get my Salem colleagues' 923 00:52:30,936 --> 00:52:33,105 take, on what I'd learned here 924 00:52:37,693 --> 00:52:39,236 How did you get this video? 925 00:52:39,236 --> 00:52:42,406 This is all surveillance footage. 926 00:52:42,406 --> 00:52:45,451 This is like official. 927 00:52:52,917 --> 00:52:55,336 There is 4 million minutes of video. 928 00:52:55,503 --> 00:52:56,921 It's official footage. 929 00:52:56,921 --> 00:52:59,590 This is official surveillance footage, just indisputable. 930 00:52:59,590 --> 00:53:01,217 It was taken by the state itself. 931 00:53:02,176 --> 00:53:06,097 I think they did not anticipate that anyone would go through this video. 932 00:53:06,305 --> 00:53:08,849 So this is 1:00 in the morning. 933 00:53:08,891 --> 00:53:11,143 Don't we all vote at 1:00 in the morning ? 934 00:53:12,103 --> 00:53:12,686 Right? 935 00:53:13,395 --> 00:53:13,979 Right. 936 00:53:14,188 --> 00:53:14,897 This seems 937 00:53:14,897 --> 00:53:18,317 silly, but somebody asked me, "how do we know this is not normal mail?". 938 00:53:18,651 --> 00:53:21,529 This is a ballot drop box. - Right. 939 00:53:21,737 --> 00:53:23,114 Okay. This is not the mailbox 940 00:53:23,114 --> 00:53:24,824 you use to write your mom 941 00:53:27,284 --> 00:53:30,412 She's got gloves on. - She's got gloves on. 942 00:53:30,454 --> 00:53:31,831 And what does she do with the gloves? 943 00:53:31,831 --> 00:53:33,249 Woopsie, Daisy? - Hang on, 944 00:53:33,249 --> 00:53:35,126 she walked straight past the counter. 945 00:53:35,126 --> 00:53:36,210 You got to show that again. 946 00:53:36,210 --> 00:53:37,920 It's hilarious. 947 00:53:38,587 --> 00:53:40,548 Look, look, she just walks 948 00:53:41,924 --> 00:53:44,969 So this is not the first time she's done it ? - No. 949 00:53:45,177 --> 00:53:46,637 So that one was in Georgia, is that right? - Yes. 950 00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:49,557 So in Georgia, it is illegal to turn in anyone 951 00:53:49,557 --> 00:53:52,059 but yourself or your family members' ballot. It is illegal. 952 00:53:52,393 --> 00:53:53,310 It is illegal. 953 00:53:53,310 --> 00:53:54,603 So forget the outcome. 954 00:53:54,603 --> 00:53:56,605 That's an illegal practice, what you just saw. 955 00:53:56,605 --> 00:53:58,691 That's right. - Video number two. 956 00:53:58,691 --> 00:54:00,025 This is called "Dog guy" 957 00:54:08,284 --> 00:54:10,035 He's taking pictures. 958 00:54:10,744 --> 00:54:11,912 Why would you do that? 959 00:54:11,912 --> 00:54:13,998 So you're getting paid, it's business. 960 00:54:13,998 --> 00:54:14,874 Business. 961 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,712 What do you suspect if you had actually caught this person at that moment? 962 00:54:19,962 --> 00:54:22,256 Hand me those ballots and the person did. 963 00:54:22,256 --> 00:54:26,677 What do you think you would see whose name is on it, in your opinion? 964 00:54:26,677 --> 00:54:28,679 Ineligible voters, people that have moved? 965 00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:30,806 Would you see legitimate ballots? 966 00:54:30,806 --> 00:54:32,141 There's an ambiguity in what you're saying. 967 00:54:32,141 --> 00:54:34,810 The ballot itself is legitimate, right? 968 00:54:34,852 --> 00:54:37,021 It's not a fake. 969 00:54:37,021 --> 00:54:37,813 Right. Okay. 970 00:54:37,813 --> 00:54:41,358 But again, remember, when you mail in a ballot, you have a security envelope 971 00:54:41,442 --> 00:54:44,695 with the signature verification standard that's been all but washed away. 972 00:54:44,945 --> 00:54:47,698 And as soon as it's taken out of that envelope, 973 00:54:47,698 --> 00:54:49,199 then you then you have a disconnect. 974 00:54:49,199 --> 00:54:51,327 The ballot... - It's a virgin sheet of paper. 975 00:54:51,452 --> 00:54:52,828 The I.D. 976 00:54:52,828 --> 00:54:54,580 is on the envelope on the outside 977 00:54:56,206 --> 00:54:57,833 This is an example of multiple ballots. 978 00:54:57,833 --> 00:55:00,002 3:57 a.m. 979 00:55:00,336 --> 00:55:02,504 Prime voting time! 980 00:55:02,504 --> 00:55:04,798 This person comes up with what you're going to see is 981 00:55:05,424 --> 00:55:08,594 when you try to put too many ballots in... 982 00:55:11,930 --> 00:55:14,141 He needs a shoehorn. 983 00:55:16,310 --> 00:55:17,853 And we have lots of those, 984 00:55:17,853 --> 00:55:20,064 where they're just jamming them in and then they fall on the ground. 985 00:55:20,481 --> 00:55:22,524 And when you can jam... - I mean, this alone 986 00:55:23,609 --> 00:55:27,237 is, to say the least, suggestive. 987 00:55:27,488 --> 00:55:29,406 Who's voting at 3:57 a.m. 988 00:55:29,406 --> 00:55:32,868 with a whole bunch of ballots? - And then being able to match 989 00:55:32,868 --> 00:55:36,413 that ping where he's standing there to the next place he goes. 990 00:55:36,455 --> 00:55:41,043 So we're seeing videos of one. When each one of these you know, 991 00:55:41,543 --> 00:55:44,380 went to - On average 23 times 992 00:55:44,713 --> 00:55:46,548 Same guy going different places ? - Yes, right, 993 00:55:46,548 --> 00:55:47,633 this is their pattern of life. 994 00:55:47,633 --> 00:55:52,012 So in one night, this person, this mule, went across six counties 995 00:55:52,012 --> 00:55:56,225 to 27 different drop boxes, 5 different organizations. 996 00:55:56,225 --> 00:55:58,727 So he's getting the ballots from the organization? - Correct. 997 00:55:59,436 --> 00:56:02,940 The Republicans had no idea this was going on during the election. 998 00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:06,819 But Trump, to his credit, tweeted out in July, Mail-in ballots are a disaster. 999 00:56:07,111 --> 00:56:10,114 And he was attacked so hard by Kemp and Ducey and so many... 1000 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,366 But he didn't have this information obviously 1001 00:56:12,991 --> 00:56:15,160 He ends up being right. - This is the tip of the iceberg. 1002 00:56:15,202 --> 00:56:19,248 You're talking about extraordinary criminal activity, 1003 00:56:19,248 --> 00:56:23,210 but there's a ton more, you would guess, that you have not even touched. 1004 00:56:23,252 --> 00:56:26,380 You are talking about 200, 300,000 ballots 1005 00:56:26,380 --> 00:56:30,175 that were just harvested in only your geolocated locations. 1006 00:56:30,676 --> 00:56:34,471 But you are talking, what, 5% of America ? - Less. 1007 00:56:34,471 --> 00:56:36,515 Okay, so case closed. Sorry, gentlemen, 1008 00:56:36,723 --> 00:56:38,934 lady, case closed. 1009 00:56:39,309 --> 00:56:43,897 So I do a heroic thing that not necessarily others here do. 1010 00:56:44,106 --> 00:56:46,817 I read The New York Times every day. - That's crazy. 1011 00:56:47,651 --> 00:56:49,903 We're sorry for you - It's my martyrdom. 1012 00:56:50,487 --> 00:56:53,448 They claim : all of these places 1013 00:56:53,448 --> 00:56:57,953 we have found maybe four, maybe 50 phony ballots. 1014 00:56:57,953 --> 00:56:59,496 These aren't phony ballots. 1015 00:57:01,540 --> 00:57:03,542 They're phony names. 1016 00:57:03,542 --> 00:57:05,210 No, no, no. 1017 00:57:05,210 --> 00:57:06,753 There's no name on the ballot. 1018 00:57:06,753 --> 00:57:12,885 Okay, let's say we got access to every single ballot thrown into the ballot boxes. 1019 00:57:13,051 --> 00:57:16,638 Would we be able to prove this is a fraud? 1020 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:21,018 It's the perfect crime because it cannot be curated after it is committed 1021 00:57:21,226 --> 00:57:26,148 because the evidence has no connection to the person who was meant to be voting. 1022 00:57:26,732 --> 00:57:27,691 That's the problem. 1023 00:57:27,691 --> 00:57:29,651 As soon as it gets taken out of the envelope, 1024 00:57:29,651 --> 00:57:32,738 the identity of the voter, disappears. - A vote from 1025 00:57:32,738 --> 00:57:36,116 John Doe is from a John Doe who was dead 1026 00:57:36,116 --> 00:57:40,329 or a John Doe who was moved, is that correct ? - Or voted somewhere else. 1027 00:57:40,329 --> 00:57:42,331 So why is that not provable? 1028 00:57:42,331 --> 00:57:45,167 There is an easy way to bust it, but it's not the way you think. 1029 00:57:45,167 --> 00:57:47,794 It's not to go find the ballots in the ballot mix. 1030 00:57:47,794 --> 00:57:49,004 You can't do that. 1031 00:57:49,004 --> 00:57:52,299 The way to find it is these guys have the cell phone 1032 00:57:52,299 --> 00:57:55,218 identification of all the mules, all of them. 1033 00:57:55,594 --> 00:57:59,014 So law enforcement has to step in at this point, and their next step... 1034 00:57:59,056 --> 00:58:02,976 to go and interview the mules? 1035 00:58:03,185 --> 00:58:05,687 Who paid you? Where did you get the money? 1036 00:58:05,687 --> 00:58:08,982 Will any state's law enforcement do this? - This is a big question. 1037 00:58:08,982 --> 00:58:10,943 The mules aren't going to confess up. They know 1038 00:58:10,943 --> 00:58:14,404 they're participating in something that is... - You got them on videotape. 1039 00:58:14,404 --> 00:58:18,033 You've got 2000 people who are committing felonies. - Right 1040 00:58:19,576 --> 00:58:21,536 I'd like you to reflect about what 1041 00:58:21,536 --> 00:58:23,580 you've learned today and how you're feeling 1042 00:58:23,580 --> 00:58:24,539 and think about it. 1043 00:58:24,539 --> 00:58:27,167 It's just sickening to me. 1044 00:58:27,209 --> 00:58:31,296 This is jaw dropping - What you showed is frightening. 1045 00:58:32,464 --> 00:58:35,217 Republicans had no clue this was going on. 1046 00:58:38,345 --> 00:58:39,179 I wondered 1047 00:58:39,179 --> 00:58:41,348 whether any Republicans who did know. 1048 00:58:42,349 --> 00:58:45,811 Investigative journalist Heather Mullins interviews a whistleblower 1049 00:58:46,478 --> 00:58:50,065 hired by the National Republican Senatorial Committee. 1050 00:58:50,148 --> 00:58:52,567 I was hired by the RNC. 1051 00:58:52,943 --> 00:58:56,279 My job was basically to watch the ballot boxes 1052 00:58:56,530 --> 00:58:59,116 and this was for the early voting in Georgia. 1053 00:58:59,241 --> 00:59:04,079 So with that started on December 14th and ended on the 31st of December, 1054 00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:07,457 and I would monitor that box from 8 to 8, all day long. 1055 00:59:08,375 --> 00:59:11,586 So consequently, during those 2 weeks, 1056 00:59:12,212 --> 00:59:14,798 I monitored those boxes indiscriminately. 1057 00:59:14,798 --> 00:59:16,049 I would move around 1058 00:59:16,049 --> 00:59:19,678 to the different areas and the boxes and watch them 30 minutes here, an hour there. 1059 00:59:20,011 --> 00:59:24,891 And then I would start to see things where I'd see people walking up with backpacks 1060 00:59:25,267 --> 00:59:29,688 and they were unloading large numbers of ballots, stuff them in the box. 1061 00:59:31,148 --> 00:59:31,648 I recorded 1062 00:59:31,648 --> 00:59:35,318 some of that and took pictures of it, and dates and times and those things 1063 00:59:35,944 --> 00:59:38,738 I spotted plates from Texas, from Colorado, 1064 00:59:39,781 --> 00:59:42,033 South Carolina, North Carolina. 1065 00:59:42,033 --> 00:59:44,786 I just thought that was odd that all these states were coming in 1066 00:59:44,911 --> 00:59:46,746 and these people would get out, I watched them get out, 1067 00:59:46,746 --> 00:59:50,167 and they'd go up to the ballot and stuff a ballot in the box. 1068 00:59:50,834 --> 00:59:52,043 But that was kind of odd. 1069 00:59:52,043 --> 00:59:53,712 So, you know, we took pictures of those things, 1070 00:59:53,712 --> 00:59:56,298 record the license plates and those things. 1071 00:59:56,882 --> 00:59:59,843 And then I'd upload these photographs to a Dropbox. 1072 01:00:00,177 --> 01:00:03,096 Then when it came to the the Georgia runoff, 1073 01:00:03,096 --> 01:00:05,432 the actual date of the election was a January 5th. 1074 01:00:07,058 --> 01:00:09,144 I was up there. It was early in the morning. 1075 01:00:09,144 --> 01:00:12,772 Now, there were Stacey Abrams people all along the sidewalk up there. 1076 01:00:13,023 --> 01:00:16,484 How did you know that they were Stacey Abrams people, though? 1077 01:00:16,568 --> 01:00:18,570 Well, they had those mask on and said "vote", 1078 01:00:18,570 --> 01:00:20,197 I'm sure is one of those thing they had. 1079 01:00:20,197 --> 01:00:22,240 This was during Covid, right? 1080 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,700 They were part of that initiative. 1081 01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:27,579 I knew that she was part of that initiative that she had going on about 1082 01:00:27,579 --> 01:00:29,331 "get out the vote" kind of thing. 1083 01:00:29,331 --> 01:00:32,250 So it was Democratic Party and it was Abrams people that were 1084 01:00:32,542 --> 01:00:35,003 you know, they're all interacting with each other. 1085 01:00:35,378 --> 01:00:37,255 And then the local 1086 01:00:37,255 --> 01:00:41,134 Democratic Party chairman was there also about 6:30 that evening. 1087 01:00:42,510 --> 01:00:43,720 We noticed 1088 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,473 there was a couple, a female couple. 1089 01:00:47,265 --> 01:00:50,518 These two had a big stack of ballots. 1090 01:00:50,936 --> 01:00:54,481 And we were standing there and they try to shove the ballots in there. 1091 01:00:54,814 --> 01:00:58,360 We're taking pictures and the other gentleman took some video 1092 01:00:58,568 --> 01:01:01,112 and everything, and she turned around and looked at us 1093 01:01:01,112 --> 01:01:02,113 and she said, "What are you doing?". 1094 01:01:02,113 --> 01:01:04,324 And I said, "Well, we're taking pictures". 1095 01:01:04,991 --> 01:01:06,534 And she said, "We'll you can't do that". 1096 01:01:06,534 --> 01:01:08,286 I said, "Yes, I can". 1097 01:01:08,286 --> 01:01:10,538 And she got mad 1098 01:01:10,538 --> 01:01:12,791 and she ran up the sidewalk and left. 1099 01:01:13,375 --> 01:01:17,545 So you're saying the NRSC was made aware that there were people stuffing 1100 01:01:18,046 --> 01:01:20,590 drop boxes at specific dates and time? - Yes. 1101 01:01:21,591 --> 01:01:26,012 So with what you witnessed during your time watching these drop boxes, 1102 01:01:26,012 --> 01:01:31,393 do you believe that that was enough for law enforcement to get involved? 1103 01:01:31,685 --> 01:01:32,686 Oh, definitely. 1104 01:01:32,686 --> 01:01:37,524 But after several weeks, no contact or anything, you know, I just... 1105 01:01:37,524 --> 01:01:40,151 So you're saying, though, if somebody had contacted you, 1106 01:01:40,151 --> 01:01:43,446 you would be willing to testify to these things 1107 01:01:43,446 --> 01:01:46,950 and give those depositions under oath ? - I would have had to 1108 01:01:47,409 --> 01:01:48,326 I would have had to 1109 01:01:56,501 --> 01:02:00,588 Kathryn, hey ! - Greg just interviewed an informant in Arizona 1110 01:02:00,588 --> 01:02:02,048 who's now cooperating with authorities. 1111 01:02:02,298 --> 01:02:03,216 Oh, wow. Okay. 1112 01:02:03,216 --> 01:02:04,217 Check your e-mail. 1113 01:02:04,217 --> 01:02:06,094 Okay. Awesome. I'll do it. Thanks so much. 1114 01:02:06,094 --> 01:02:07,053 Okay, bye. 1115 01:02:07,303 --> 01:02:07,887 Hey, honey. 1116 01:02:07,887 --> 01:02:09,055 Yeah, take a look at this. 1117 01:02:09,055 --> 01:02:13,101 So this is I remember Greg was going to interview that mule, 1118 01:02:13,101 --> 01:02:15,270 and so we got the video 1119 01:02:16,980 --> 01:02:19,566 That's her, concealing her identity. 1120 01:05:36,095 --> 01:05:38,806 What a brave woman to do this. - Totally. 1121 01:06:09,295 --> 01:06:11,005 Wow. - Unbelievable. 1122 01:06:14,342 --> 01:06:15,551 We know that the mules 1123 01:06:15,551 --> 01:06:19,055 got their stashes of ballots from these activist organizations, 1124 01:06:20,515 --> 01:06:22,767 but where did the activist organizations 1125 01:06:22,767 --> 01:06:24,936 get the ballots from? 1126 01:06:26,270 --> 01:06:28,814 Hans von Spakovsky is a former member 1127 01:06:28,814 --> 01:06:32,902 of the Federal Election Commission, a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation 1128 01:06:33,069 --> 01:06:36,239 and coauthor of the book "Our Broken Elections". 1129 01:06:37,448 --> 01:06:41,369 I will say election fraud is bipartisan, but most of the cases 1130 01:06:41,410 --> 01:06:44,622 I see are unfortunately the Democratic Party. 1131 01:06:45,456 --> 01:06:48,876 Hans, you just watched a mule kind of confessing up 1132 01:06:48,876 --> 01:06:53,339 about participating in this trafficking operation. 1133 01:06:53,548 --> 01:06:55,508 Is this kind of a mule operation, 1134 01:06:55,508 --> 01:06:56,926 something familiar to you? 1135 01:06:56,926 --> 01:06:58,844 But unfortunately, this is so common 1136 01:06:58,844 --> 01:07:01,597 in some parts of America, particularly the Hispanic community. 1137 01:07:02,014 --> 01:07:03,432 They have a special name, there. 1138 01:07:03,432 --> 01:07:05,559 They call them "politicaros". 1139 01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:09,230 And these are individuals who are paid by campaigns 1140 01:07:09,230 --> 01:07:13,317 or political parties to go into neighborhoods 1141 01:07:14,151 --> 01:07:18,531 and collect absentee ballots, to pressure and coerce voters. 1142 01:07:18,531 --> 01:07:23,369 People who observe election fraud have commented that absentee ballot fraud 1143 01:07:23,369 --> 01:07:27,164 or mail ballot fraud is the easiest 1144 01:07:27,164 --> 01:07:30,001 and the most common type of election fraud. 1145 01:07:30,459 --> 01:07:31,961 Why is that? 1146 01:07:32,044 --> 01:07:33,921 Well, because they're the only kind of ballot 1147 01:07:33,921 --> 01:07:37,216 that is voted outside the supervision of election officials 1148 01:07:37,216 --> 01:07:40,761 and outside the observation of poll watchers. 1149 01:07:41,137 --> 01:07:44,390 Transparency, as you know, is very important in the election process. 1150 01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:50,062 And there is no one there at a voter's home to observe what's happening. 1151 01:07:50,104 --> 01:07:52,815 Also, remember, when you're at a polling place, 1152 01:07:53,399 --> 01:07:57,820 you fill out your ballot and you then deposit it directly into the ballot box. 1153 01:07:58,070 --> 01:08:00,740 That obviously is not what happens with absentee ballot. 1154 01:08:00,990 --> 01:08:01,866 There are some states, 1155 01:08:01,866 --> 01:08:06,412 I believe about half of them, or 27 states, that allow voter harvesting. 1156 01:08:06,662 --> 01:08:07,830 And by voter harvesting, 1157 01:08:07,830 --> 01:08:12,418 what we mean is that you are allowed to give your ballot to someone else, 1158 01:08:12,418 --> 01:08:14,879 and ask them to deliver it. 1159 01:08:15,963 --> 01:08:18,007 Now, are there any states 1160 01:08:18,007 --> 01:08:22,845 in which you are allowed to pay mules to deliver ballots to drop boxes? 1161 01:08:22,887 --> 01:08:25,264 No, you're not supposed to be doing that. 1162 01:08:25,473 --> 01:08:27,725 And allowing vote trafficking, to begin with, 1163 01:08:28,684 --> 01:08:33,105 is a huge mistake because you're giving third party strangers, 1164 01:08:33,606 --> 01:08:37,777 you know, candidates, campaign staffers, party 1165 01:08:37,777 --> 01:08:40,821 activists, all people who have a stake in the outcome of the election, 1166 01:08:41,405 --> 01:08:45,242 you're giving them the ability to handle something very valuable, a ballot. 1167 01:08:45,951 --> 01:08:50,664 Voter fraud is almost incalculably rare in the United States. 1168 01:08:50,664 --> 01:08:52,166 Does it ever happen? 1169 01:08:52,166 --> 01:08:52,708 Okay. 1170 01:08:52,708 --> 01:08:57,630 Occasionally it does happen, but it doesn't happen on a national scale. 1171 01:08:57,630 --> 01:08:59,548 Doesn't affect the outcome. - It would affect the outcome. 1172 01:08:59,548 --> 01:09:03,427 I read these days constantly that "the election fraud, well, 1173 01:09:03,427 --> 01:09:07,473 it could occur, but those cases are extremely rare", 1174 01:09:07,473 --> 01:09:12,520 "they are so episodic, they don't have the ability to tip an election" 1175 01:09:12,895 --> 01:09:13,771 Is that true? 1176 01:09:13,771 --> 01:09:17,399 Fraud happens often enough that elections get overturned. 1177 01:09:17,858 --> 01:09:21,153 I mean, just go back three years to 2018 1178 01:09:21,153 --> 01:09:23,989 and a congressional race was overturned. 1179 01:09:24,198 --> 01:09:27,159 I can cite to you another case in Mississippi. 1180 01:09:27,159 --> 01:09:29,537 It was just overturned by a court because of fraud. 1181 01:09:29,703 --> 01:09:30,871 Same thing in Florida. 1182 01:09:30,871 --> 01:09:33,040 Well, look, that's just the tip of the iceberg. 1183 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,876 Now, we've shown that you've got these mules 1184 01:09:35,876 --> 01:09:40,381 who are picking up these ballots at various vote stash houses. 1185 01:09:40,506 --> 01:09:44,260 And where do these organizations get ballots ? - Well, to quote Shakespeare, 1186 01:09:44,677 --> 01:09:45,844 "Let me count the ways", 1187 01:09:50,015 --> 01:09:50,224 you know, 1188 01:09:50,224 --> 01:09:54,395 everything from filling out absentee ballot request forms for voters, 1189 01:09:54,395 --> 01:09:56,313 but having the ballot sent to them 1190 01:09:56,313 --> 01:10:00,150 to actually going to the voters and obtaining the ballots from them 1191 01:10:00,150 --> 01:10:05,531 to stealing them out of mailboxes, to actually using high quality 1192 01:10:05,823 --> 01:10:08,742 photocopy machines to make their own ballots. 1193 01:10:09,868 --> 01:10:12,454 Look, these cases unfortunately go on all the time. 1194 01:10:12,454 --> 01:10:17,042 You can go to 2018, which was an hour long ago in North Carolina. 1195 01:10:17,459 --> 01:10:20,879 Leslie McCrae Dowless is accused of mishandling 1196 01:10:20,879 --> 01:10:24,383 absentee ballots in North Carolina's Ninth District. 1197 01:10:24,383 --> 01:10:28,012 Dowless would frequently obtain this report from the Board of Elections, 1198 01:10:28,178 --> 01:10:32,558 looking for the date an absentee ballot was mailed, and if it had been returned. 1199 01:10:32,766 --> 01:10:36,478 Jim Dreesen, who first told me she was hired to pick up ballots, 1200 01:10:36,729 --> 01:10:40,149 and Kelly Hendricks, who testified she did the same thing. 1201 01:10:40,190 --> 01:10:42,443 What would you do if the ballots after you picked them up ? 1202 01:10:42,818 --> 01:10:46,238 take them straight to the office in Dublin and hand them over to them. 1203 01:10:46,322 --> 01:10:48,449 Craig, I don't know what happened to them after. 1204 01:10:48,449 --> 01:10:50,159 I know there were stacks of them on his desk. 1205 01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:54,538 There was testimony in the case that his staffers were falsely signing 1206 01:10:54,538 --> 01:10:59,168 as witnesses on those absentee ballots, because he had done this before. 1207 01:10:59,168 --> 01:11:04,923 He actually apparently had signatures of voters from prior elections in his offices. 1208 01:11:06,759 --> 01:11:09,303 Voter rolls are in notoriously bad shape. 1209 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,890 States do a very bad job of taking people off 1210 01:11:12,890 --> 01:11:16,560 who are no longer eligible because they've died or moved away. 1211 01:11:16,894 --> 01:11:21,774 And it's very easy to get hold of a state's voter registration list. 1212 01:11:21,774 --> 01:11:25,402 So, you know, if somebody is on the list and they haven't voted in ten years, 1213 01:11:25,402 --> 01:11:29,281 you're probably pretty safe in trying to cast a ballot - On their behalf. 1214 01:11:29,448 --> 01:11:30,199 On their behalf. 1215 01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:34,620 Remember, in states that made the mistake of simply mailing out 1216 01:11:34,620 --> 01:11:37,748 a absentee ballot to every single registered voter? 1217 01:11:38,415 --> 01:11:43,420 Well, if you're a fraudster and you get hold of that absentee ballot, 1218 01:11:43,420 --> 01:11:46,381 you've got 90% of the information you need to fill it out, 1219 01:11:46,381 --> 01:11:50,344 because the name is going to be on the outer envelope, and their registered 1220 01:11:50,344 --> 01:11:51,303 address. 1221 01:11:51,303 --> 01:11:54,181 Let's follow the track of these mail out ballots. 1222 01:11:54,181 --> 01:11:54,765 Right. 1223 01:11:54,765 --> 01:11:57,184 Let's just say you got students on a campus. 1224 01:11:57,392 --> 01:12:01,271 They've voted, but then they graduate and obviously they move 1225 01:12:01,271 --> 01:12:03,440 to a different state. If they're on the voter rolls, 1226 01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:08,403 is it not a fact that mail ballots will be arriving in the dorms and arriving? 1227 01:12:08,570 --> 01:12:11,740 And so presumably they're not going to be that hard to scoop up 1228 01:12:11,740 --> 01:12:13,742 if somebody knows how or where to where to look for ? 1229 01:12:13,826 --> 01:12:14,952 No, that's exactly right. 1230 01:12:14,952 --> 01:12:17,329 And, you know, I work in the District of Columbia. 1231 01:12:17,329 --> 01:12:21,542 They mailed out absentee ballots to all of their registered voters. 1232 01:12:21,542 --> 01:12:25,754 And I can't tell you how many phone calls I had from people that I know 1233 01:12:26,129 --> 01:12:31,426 saying that not only had their ballot arrived in the mail, but five, six, seven 1234 01:12:31,426 --> 01:12:36,056 ballots all coming in to their apartment for people who used to live there. 1235 01:12:36,515 --> 01:12:41,311 Now, a former Supreme Court justice in Wisconsin named Gabe 1236 01:12:41,311 --> 01:12:45,399 Bowman has done a preliminary report, and he talks about the fact 1237 01:12:45,399 --> 01:12:49,361 that there are approximately 90,000 people 1238 01:12:49,361 --> 01:12:54,449 in Wisconsin who are in resident care facilities or nursing homes. 1239 01:12:54,658 --> 01:12:58,787 So she's basically not capable any longer 1240 01:12:59,371 --> 01:13:01,623 of even remaining awake 1241 01:13:02,165 --> 01:13:04,501 for more than a few minutes. 1242 01:13:04,626 --> 01:13:08,171 And so are you surprised that she voted in February 2021? 1243 01:13:08,672 --> 01:13:10,257 Absolutely. 1244 01:13:10,257 --> 01:13:14,761 But I was surprised to hear that she voted in the last presidential election. 1245 01:13:14,970 --> 01:13:16,138 Much to my surprise, 1246 01:13:16,138 --> 01:13:21,184 she had voted for the last, off and on, for the last ten years. 1247 01:13:22,436 --> 01:13:23,854 I guess in my mind 1248 01:13:23,854 --> 01:13:28,191 I thought if you put your parent into a facility 1249 01:13:28,191 --> 01:13:32,362 because they were incapacitated, they would not even be offered 1250 01:13:33,614 --> 01:13:34,531 the vote. 1251 01:13:34,531 --> 01:13:36,575 They make you vote. 1252 01:13:36,575 --> 01:13:38,619 They make you vote here? 1253 01:13:38,702 --> 01:13:41,288 And so how do they make you vote? 1254 01:13:41,288 --> 01:13:44,583 I didn't want to vote and they told me I had to. 1255 01:13:44,625 --> 01:13:46,918 That is a real problem. 1256 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,588 Clearly, it was a problem in Wisconsin, 2020. 1257 01:13:49,588 --> 01:13:51,840 But unfortunately, that's a perennial problem. 1258 01:13:52,132 --> 01:13:54,926 In other states too. What happens is 1259 01:13:54,926 --> 01:13:58,221 you have staff in those nursing homes. 1260 01:13:58,347 --> 01:14:01,183 Sometimes they are activists politically. 1261 01:14:01,475 --> 01:14:05,437 They get these individuals registered to vote, or if they're already registered to vote, 1262 01:14:05,437 --> 01:14:08,732 they will request absentee ballots in their name, sometimes 1263 01:14:08,732 --> 01:14:12,319 forging their signatures and then filling out the ballots for them. 1264 01:14:12,319 --> 01:14:14,446 Just prior to the 2020 election, 1265 01:14:14,488 --> 01:14:19,076 the State of Texas indicted a social worker in a home 1266 01:14:19,076 --> 01:14:22,954 for young people who were basically mentally incompetent. 1267 01:14:23,163 --> 01:14:27,000 She had sent in over 100 voter registrations 1268 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,796 for these individuals who were not legally competent to vote. 1269 01:14:32,464 --> 01:14:34,257 What about homeless shelters? 1270 01:14:34,257 --> 01:14:38,261 Look, if a homeless individual is mentally capable, they ought to be able to vote, 1271 01:14:39,054 --> 01:14:41,515 and if the only place they can list as a registered address, 1272 01:14:41,515 --> 01:14:42,724 is the homeless shelter, that's fine. 1273 01:14:42,724 --> 01:14:45,685 But the problem there is that it's very easy, 1274 01:14:45,685 --> 01:14:48,230 I think, for them to be intimidated and coerced. 1275 01:14:48,563 --> 01:14:51,983 In Chicago, the largest election fraud case the U.S. 1276 01:14:51,983 --> 01:14:54,277 Justice Department ever prosecuted. 1277 01:14:54,277 --> 01:14:57,239 They were paying homeless individuals 1278 01:14:57,239 --> 01:15:00,075 to cast ballots the way they wanted them to cast ballots. 1279 01:15:00,659 --> 01:15:02,911 What made you want to do this? 1280 01:15:02,953 --> 01:15:05,205 What made you want to get involved? 1281 01:15:05,205 --> 01:15:08,333 Well, I knew that election stuff was supposed to be something good to do. 1282 01:15:08,667 --> 01:15:11,586 And then plus, I needed a little extra money to get Christmas for my son. 1283 01:15:11,962 --> 01:15:14,840 So that's the main reason I did that. 1284 01:15:14,965 --> 01:15:17,592 Who do these fraudsters pick on? 1285 01:15:17,592 --> 01:15:20,137 They pick on the most vulnerable in our society. 1286 01:15:20,512 --> 01:15:22,889 They go into poor neighborhoods. 1287 01:15:22,889 --> 01:15:24,349 They pick on the elderly. 1288 01:15:24,349 --> 01:15:27,602 They pick on people for whom English is not their first language. 1289 01:15:27,727 --> 01:15:31,148 When we're trying to stop election fraud, we're actually trying to protect, 1290 01:15:31,356 --> 01:15:34,025 I'd say, the most vulnerable people in our society. 1291 01:15:39,447 --> 01:15:41,867 We now know where the ballots could have come from. 1292 01:15:41,867 --> 01:15:46,663 But to pull off a heist like this on a national scale would take deep pockets. 1293 01:15:47,289 --> 01:15:50,166 I wanted to find out where the money might have come from. 1294 01:15:50,333 --> 01:15:53,253 Who could have funded the heist? 1295 01:15:53,253 --> 01:15:56,464 I met with Scott Walter, an old colleague of mine at the American 1296 01:15:56,464 --> 01:16:00,051 Enterprise Institute, who is now head of the Capital Research Center. 1297 01:16:00,594 --> 01:16:03,430 This is an organization that has produced multiple 1298 01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:05,682 reports on the funding of elections. 1299 01:16:06,766 --> 01:16:10,020 People think of three rivers of money, really that empty 1300 01:16:10,020 --> 01:16:11,521 into the Gulf of elections. 1301 01:16:11,521 --> 01:16:12,689 The hard dollars : 1302 01:16:12,689 --> 01:16:17,402 to write a check to a candidate ; the second : soft money or dark money. 1303 01:16:17,444 --> 01:16:20,780 And then there's a third river that people tend to neglect. 1304 01:16:20,780 --> 01:16:21,781 but Capital Research 1305 01:16:21,781 --> 01:16:26,953 Center has studied intently, and that is the 501c3 nonprofit 1306 01:16:27,162 --> 01:16:30,749 money, the kind of charity that you get to take a tax deduction for. 1307 01:16:30,957 --> 01:16:34,294 That river is enormous. In the 2018 1308 01:16:34,294 --> 01:16:37,380 cycle : about $21 billion. 1309 01:16:37,589 --> 01:16:40,884 Now what do the IRS regulations say 1310 01:16:40,884 --> 01:16:45,180 about the involvement of these nonprofits ? - By law, 1311 01:16:45,347 --> 01:16:48,183 these nonprofit charities are forbidden 1312 01:16:48,683 --> 01:16:53,438 to directly intervene in elections in any way, or to help a particular party 1313 01:16:53,438 --> 01:16:57,359 or candidate. The IRS is emphatic that you cannot intend 1314 01:16:57,484 --> 01:17:02,364 or even have the effect of helping one party or candidate over the other. 1315 01:17:02,572 --> 01:17:04,658 Now let's talk about some of the key 1316 01:17:04,658 --> 01:17:09,037 elements of this particular network that we're focusing on. 1317 01:17:09,037 --> 01:17:13,416 We have we have drop boxes, and those drop boxes are, 1318 01:17:13,541 --> 01:17:17,379 most people would think, funded entirely by the states. 1319 01:17:17,420 --> 01:17:20,673 In other words, the drop boxes in Georgia, funded by the state of Georgia. 1320 01:17:20,799 --> 01:17:23,802 But that's not entirely the case, is it? - In the 2020 1321 01:17:23,802 --> 01:17:27,597 election, there was an unprecedented hundreds 1322 01:17:27,597 --> 01:17:33,103 of millions of private dollars going into government election offices. 1323 01:17:33,269 --> 01:17:36,815 The 470 million or so dollars were sent 1324 01:17:37,190 --> 01:17:39,901 by Mark Zuckerberg and his wife. 1325 01:17:40,110 --> 01:17:43,113 We did our part to secure the integrity of the election. 1326 01:17:43,321 --> 01:17:46,991 There were a few other places that put in much smaller amounts. 1327 01:17:47,117 --> 01:17:51,621 One entity that put in $25 million was again 1328 01:17:51,996 --> 01:17:55,041 a nonprofit that's part of the Arabella Advisors, 1329 01:17:55,041 --> 01:18:00,672 which has a total empire ; in 2020 took in $1.7 billion. 1330 01:18:00,797 --> 01:18:04,050 Is there any evidence that this operation had 1331 01:18:04,050 --> 01:18:07,262 a partizan thrust or a partizan character? 1332 01:18:07,262 --> 01:18:11,224 As we all know, big money rarely comes without strings attached. 1333 01:18:11,516 --> 01:18:15,895 One of the big ones is lots and lots of drop boxes, 1334 01:18:16,187 --> 01:18:20,859 also lots and lots of vote by mail. To get your nice big checks, 1335 01:18:21,109 --> 01:18:26,114 you had to do things like have drop boxes, encourage vote by mail, 1336 01:18:26,447 --> 01:18:30,869 have ads in foreign languages, all kinds of things that little by little 1337 01:18:30,869 --> 01:18:34,831 are nudging the turnout for one particular political party. 1338 01:18:35,248 --> 01:18:40,587 In addition to the 470 or so million dollars that went into the Zuck 1339 01:18:40,587 --> 01:18:46,217 Buck operation, you also had in 2020, a $120 million project, 1340 01:18:46,593 --> 01:18:50,180 very secretive, called the Voter Registration Project. 1341 01:18:50,180 --> 01:18:53,558 The 120 million, it came from Soros' Foundation, 1342 01:18:53,558 --> 01:18:58,354 it came from Visa's Foundation, it came from Warren Buffett's foundation, 1343 01:18:58,563 --> 01:19:02,108 It came from unions like the SEIU. The voter registration 1344 01:19:02,150 --> 01:19:07,447 project has as its goal : increasing in the eight target states, over 1345 01:19:07,447 --> 01:19:12,869 2 million voters who are overwhelmingly expected to vote for the Democratic Party. 1346 01:19:12,869 --> 01:19:16,623 And so the states that we're talking about here are Arizona? - Yes. 1347 01:19:16,831 --> 01:19:19,834 Georgia ? - Yes. - North Carolina ? - Yes. 1348 01:19:20,043 --> 01:19:20,919 Any others? 1349 01:19:20,919 --> 01:19:22,921 Nevada, New Mexico. 1350 01:19:22,921 --> 01:19:26,507 Here we've got an operation of illegal vote trafficking, 1351 01:19:26,507 --> 01:19:30,261 you've got thousands of mules that are being paid to do this. 1352 01:19:30,428 --> 01:19:34,599 What you're saying is there is more than enough money available 1353 01:19:34,849 --> 01:19:36,559 to fund any such operation. 1354 01:19:36,559 --> 01:19:40,104 In fact, this would be only one part 1355 01:19:40,438 --> 01:19:43,650 of a much larger effort to control the election. 1356 01:19:43,858 --> 01:19:48,780 We are talking half a billion dollars in nonprofit charitable funds 1357 01:19:49,072 --> 01:19:53,242 flowing into efforts to register and get out the vote for Democrats. 1358 01:19:53,284 --> 01:19:57,580 Most of the left wing mainstream media, when they reported on the Zuck Bucks 1359 01:19:57,580 --> 01:20:01,709 going through, they made it sound like "it's all going to go for masks, 1360 01:20:01,709 --> 01:20:03,378 and plexiglass and all". 1361 01:20:03,378 --> 01:20:06,923 And every study that's ever been done of some of those grants to the big cities 1362 01:20:06,923 --> 01:20:12,011 found a few percent maybe going to help people that way. 1363 01:20:12,178 --> 01:20:15,848 And the massive amounts of money going into ginning up the vote 1364 01:20:15,848 --> 01:20:19,018 by mail operation and the drop box operation 1365 01:20:19,352 --> 01:20:22,522 and those sorts of things that benefit one political party. 1366 01:20:22,939 --> 01:20:27,360 How confident should we be that this will be a fair election? 1367 01:20:27,402 --> 01:20:29,946 They're sending millions of ballots all over the country. 1368 01:20:30,154 --> 01:20:34,117 This is going to be a fraud like you've never seen. - Trump predicted. 1369 01:20:34,158 --> 01:20:37,954 He said the Democrats are going to cheat, that they're going to use the pretext 1370 01:20:37,954 --> 01:20:38,913 of COVID. 1371 01:20:38,913 --> 01:20:41,749 They're going to rig the rules in their favor. 1372 01:20:42,125 --> 01:20:46,087 Nevertheless, Republicans focus their efforts on the campaign, 1373 01:20:46,504 --> 01:20:47,588 while Democrats 1374 01:20:47,588 --> 01:20:51,384 focus their efforts on the process of actually running the election. 1375 01:20:52,051 --> 01:20:55,012 The two sides don't approach elections in the same way. 1376 01:20:55,054 --> 01:20:58,975 The Democrats, they understand that the rules, the process 1377 01:20:58,975 --> 01:21:02,311 by which elections are conducted is just critical. 1378 01:21:03,688 --> 01:21:06,232 We must now face the chilling reality. 1379 01:21:06,315 --> 01:21:08,359 The Democrats conceived the heist. 1380 01:21:08,526 --> 01:21:09,444 They funded it. 1381 01:21:09,444 --> 01:21:10,570 They organized it. 1382 01:21:10,570 --> 01:21:12,780 Then they carried it out. 1383 01:21:16,451 --> 01:21:17,076 They rigged 1384 01:21:17,076 --> 01:21:19,537 and stole the 2020 presidential election. 1385 01:21:20,121 --> 01:21:22,081 We cannot be okay with this. 1386 01:21:22,081 --> 01:21:24,584 We cannot simply move on. 1387 01:21:26,169 --> 01:21:29,130 I'd like to have your honest assessment 1388 01:21:29,297 --> 01:21:32,300 on what you've seen, what you've heard, 1389 01:21:33,050 --> 01:21:36,304 and what we can reasonably draw from it. 1390 01:21:36,929 --> 01:21:38,639 What do we have empirically? 1391 01:21:38,639 --> 01:21:41,893 We have data, geolocated. 1392 01:21:41,934 --> 01:21:46,063 We have footage of people harvesting ballots. 1393 01:21:47,273 --> 01:21:49,650 Do we know who those ballots were for? 1394 01:21:49,775 --> 01:21:52,111 We can't know who they were for. 1395 01:21:52,111 --> 01:21:54,572 However, you have to inject common sense. 1396 01:21:54,947 --> 01:21:58,492 Are we saying that in the centers of Democrat 1397 01:21:58,492 --> 01:22:02,288 held districts, we are seeing hundreds 1398 01:22:02,288 --> 01:22:07,335 and hundreds of visits to drop boxes with pro-Trump ballots? 1399 01:22:08,085 --> 01:22:09,337 It's beggars belief. 1400 01:22:09,337 --> 01:22:11,964 It's ballot laundering, looks pretty convincing to me. 1401 01:22:12,173 --> 01:22:14,634 I don't think we'll ever know the full story. 1402 01:22:14,634 --> 01:22:18,346 And what makes this crime so compelling and unique, 1403 01:22:18,638 --> 01:22:23,142 is that once the ballot enters the system, it's really hard to reverse engineer it. 1404 01:22:23,517 --> 01:22:26,771 But when you have the cell phone geolocation data 1405 01:22:26,854 --> 01:22:30,483 and then the actual footage of them doing what you expect them to be doing, 1406 01:22:30,483 --> 01:22:34,028 taking pictures of the ballots, taking gloves off, visiting multiple times, 1407 01:22:34,528 --> 01:22:39,575 I mean, it seems pretty clear to me and it explains the sudden spike in 1408 01:22:40,534 --> 01:22:41,410 Biden support, that 1409 01:22:41,410 --> 01:22:44,789 we saw late at night. Kind of instinct that people had. The control of the U.S. 1410 01:22:44,789 --> 01:22:47,875 Senate, went through Georgia. With Chuck Schumer as majority leader, 1411 01:22:48,167 --> 01:22:49,919 probably because of what we just saw. 1412 01:22:49,919 --> 01:22:54,715 I'd like them to answer, the mules, if they say it's clean, then 1413 01:22:54,715 --> 01:22:58,052 be honest and say, "okay..." - You have two ways they will try to invalidate it. 1414 01:22:58,052 --> 01:23:00,388 One is minimizing and then slander. - Right. 1415 01:23:00,388 --> 01:23:02,515 So they'll try to slander Dinesh personally. 1416 01:23:02,515 --> 01:23:04,642 They'll say, "Oh, Trump, pardoned him", or whatever, 1417 01:23:04,642 --> 01:23:08,729 "therefore, he's trying to get back to Trump, to try to reinforce the big lie". 1418 01:23:08,896 --> 01:23:10,064 I could already see the headline 1419 01:23:10,064 --> 01:23:14,568 in the Washington Post, "Trump ally comes out with questionable movie". 1420 01:23:14,819 --> 01:23:17,071 I predict right now they will say, "What on earth 1421 01:23:17,071 --> 01:23:20,783 is a conservative doing, tracking private citizens?" 1422 01:23:21,075 --> 01:23:22,868 "Gee, how dare! What is Dinesh 1423 01:23:22,868 --> 01:23:26,372 D'Souza doing to voters at 3 a.m.?" 1424 01:23:26,372 --> 01:23:29,041 I mean, that'll be part of intimidation. 1425 01:23:29,417 --> 01:23:30,668 The word will be intimidation. 1426 01:23:30,668 --> 01:23:32,253 They'll say "No person is safe, 1427 01:23:32,253 --> 01:23:34,380 communities of color are being tracked", 1428 01:23:34,380 --> 01:23:35,881 "People in black 1429 01:23:35,881 --> 01:23:37,383 "neighborhoods are now going to have to fear 1430 01:23:37,383 --> 01:23:40,052 "for their life, that their cell phone pings will be paired, 1431 01:23:40,052 --> 01:23:42,596 and this is this is Jim Crow to point out". 1432 01:23:43,013 --> 01:23:45,474 I disagree that this is not going to be compelling enough. 1433 01:23:46,475 --> 01:23:48,185 This is a smoking gun. 1434 01:23:48,185 --> 01:23:49,019 This is O.J. 1435 01:23:49,019 --> 01:23:51,522 Simpson being seen leaving the scene of the crime. 1436 01:23:51,814 --> 01:23:54,900 I don't care how partizan you are, you can't dismiss all of this. 1437 01:23:54,900 --> 01:23:58,320 How do you explain somebody going to a whole bunch of different drop boxes 1438 01:23:58,446 --> 01:24:01,782 with a whole bunch of different ballots on the same night at 3:57 a.m. 1439 01:24:01,782 --> 01:24:02,199 in the morning? 1440 01:24:02,199 --> 01:24:04,326 How do you explain that? That alone? 1441 01:24:04,785 --> 01:24:05,411 I'm sorry. 1442 01:24:05,411 --> 01:24:09,373 I think a whole bunch of people in this country are going to go "Oh, my God". 1443 01:24:09,373 --> 01:24:12,501 If every American saw that, I think I think it 1444 01:24:12,501 --> 01:24:14,295 would move the needle. 1445 01:24:14,295 --> 01:24:19,758 However, their ability to keep their side ignorant is total. 1446 01:24:20,009 --> 01:24:22,344 That's going to be impossible to keep a lid on this thing. 1447 01:24:22,386 --> 01:24:24,847 Well, this movie is an Overton Window moment, right? 1448 01:24:24,847 --> 01:24:27,933 So documentaries can do this every once in a while. 1449 01:24:27,975 --> 01:24:28,809 Michael Moore did it. 1450 01:24:28,809 --> 01:24:30,853 He moved the Overton Window in many different topics. 1451 01:24:30,853 --> 01:24:32,855 20 years ago, Al Gore did it with climate change. 1452 01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:36,525 It'll happen, as Ernest Hemingway said, gradually and then suddenly, 1453 01:24:36,775 --> 01:24:39,695 because it's not just how many people are going to watch this film. 1454 01:24:39,695 --> 01:24:40,863 It's who's going to watch it. 1455 01:24:40,863 --> 01:24:41,822 It's going be lawmakers. 1456 01:24:41,822 --> 01:24:43,532 It's going to be people that work for the Bureau. 1457 01:24:43,532 --> 01:24:45,993 It's got to be someone somewhere with a conscious that has power. 1458 01:24:46,202 --> 01:24:48,162 And to say "This is a problem", 1459 01:24:48,162 --> 01:24:50,706 It can't be dismissed. It can't be dismissed. 1460 01:24:50,706 --> 01:24:54,251 They have ruined Election Day in the United States of America. 1461 01:24:54,335 --> 01:24:56,045 That's provable. 1462 01:24:56,045 --> 01:25:00,591 And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body. 1463 01:25:05,638 --> 01:25:07,848 Without free and fair elections, 1464 01:25:07,848 --> 01:25:09,058 we are not a democracy, 1465 01:25:09,058 --> 01:25:11,936 we are a nation run by a criminal cartel, 1466 01:25:12,061 --> 01:25:14,104 masquerading as a democracy. 1467 01:25:15,272 --> 01:25:16,315 Never in U.S. 1468 01:25:16,315 --> 01:25:19,944 history, has a presidential election been as thoroughly corrupted 1469 01:25:19,944 --> 01:25:24,031 by coordinated fraud across multiple states, as we now know 1470 01:25:24,198 --> 01:25:27,076 took place in 2020. 1471 01:25:28,202 --> 01:25:30,079 Today, totalitarian regimes 1472 01:25:30,079 --> 01:25:33,958 camouflage their fake elections with the appearance of democracy. 1473 01:25:33,958 --> 01:25:36,252 But they're not real democracies. 1474 01:25:37,127 --> 01:25:39,546 We don't want to join them. 1475 01:25:39,588 --> 01:25:41,382 Our elections must represent 1476 01:25:41,382 --> 01:25:45,052 the will of American citizens. 1477 01:25:45,094 --> 01:25:49,139 We who believe in constitutional democracy must be diligent. 1478 01:25:49,139 --> 01:25:50,808 If we give up, they win. 1479 01:25:50,808 --> 01:25:54,520 In fact, if enough of us give up, they won't need to cheat anymore. 1480 01:25:55,646 --> 01:25:57,773 Don't stay home. Get involved. 1481 01:25:57,773 --> 01:25:58,816 Get out and vote. 1482 01:25:58,816 --> 01:26:01,902 Do what is necessary to save this great country. 1483 01:26:03,112 --> 01:26:06,782 The America we love needs us now more than ever. 1484 01:26:16,291 --> 01:26:19,253 The only way this gets better is 1485 01:26:19,253 --> 01:26:21,922 if voters get involved. 130212

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