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Burn my face off.
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Definitely shortened
up the beard hair.
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Is that what you replay
a lot in your mind,
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is that kid?
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Yeah, yeah, I replay that a lot,
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'cause it's... It's
slow motion for me.
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Um,
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like, I remember thinking,
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like, when it happened,
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like, I was pulling the
trigger on those fucking 203s,
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and I was just launching
203s 'cause the snipers
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were telling me that they
couldn't hit the shot,
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but they needed an
indirect fire weapon
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into the courtyard of
this... Of this house,
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and so I was throwing
203 after 203
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into this courtyard,
and guys were screaming
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all over the place, like,
"Yeah, yeah, fuck yeah!"
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And then, I remember
pulling a shot,
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and yeah... And you
can see a 203 grenade
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going through the air,
you can watch it go.
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You can watch it from
the time it ejects
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all the way to the
time it impacts.
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- Yeah.
- It's an indirect fire weapon,
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so it goes, "Ahh,"
it comes down.
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- Right.
- And uh...
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And I watched it...
I watched it happen,
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and uh...
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And I don't... like, it...
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I don't know, man, it...
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It was so slow.
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It just hung in the
air for fucking ever,
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and, like, as it was
hanging in the air, like,
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I see this...
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This kid, like, running
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across this field,
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and it just...
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It just impacted, like,
right at his feet,
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like, as he was
running, and just,
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Gone.
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We had lost so many
guys over the course
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of a seven-month deployment,
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and this was our entire, like,
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you know, kinda get...
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Get right with yourself brief,
and the chaplain walked in
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and said, "Let's
list all the names
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of all the guys that died."
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So, we listed all the names
of all the guys that died,
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and that was it, and
he was like, "Okay,
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class over," like,
"Hope everybody's okay,"
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like, "Remember
that they served."
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Like, we didn't know
how to deal with that
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because we're all
coming back from it,
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and everybody was just kind
of... Everybody just wanted
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to go home and
drink booze, and...
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You know, as soon as we got home
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and people started
drinking booze,
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you started seeing
emotions coming out,
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and it was... you know,
guys were getting drunk,
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hell, me included, we
were getting drunk,
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and you'd be at a bar, and
just start fucking crying,
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and you're with a guy or two
and you're telling stories,
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the next thing you know,
you're fucking crying.
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♪
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My thoughts always
went back to 2/4,
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when I got out,
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and it did make me feel alone,
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and I felt like I
wasn't good enough
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to talk to those guys anymore.
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♪
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I would see videos
and photos of people
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being just happy, and
houses are going up,
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and babies are on the
way, and marriages are,
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you know, 5, 10 years strong,
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and things are going
well for a lot of guys,
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and it really felt hard to
try to contact some of them,
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and be like, "Hey, man, I'm...
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I'm not doing hot."
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And, like, you try not
to be a wimp about it,
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'cause it's... it's...
You gotta keep going.
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But, there's a lot of
time where you sit there
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and think about a lot of
the shit that you did,
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and there's no one
you can relate to,
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because you scatter
to the winds,
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you go back to this world,
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and you don't necessarily
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find the best ways
to deal with it.
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And so, instead, isolation
becomes an easy thing,
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easy.
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♪
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When you transition,
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you're kind of out on an island.
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Part of being in
a warrior culture
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is this ideal of strength,
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and anything viewed
as less than strength
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is a weakness.
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If someone has viewed themselves
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as a strong team member,
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then I imagine the
question gets asked,
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"Am I the weakest
link in that chain?
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And if I am, I can't look
those other guys in the face
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because I'm different now,
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and I don't belong,
I don't deserve it."
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♪
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Yesterday I had kind of
an interesting run-in
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with the law.
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Went and harbored up at a
site I thought was okay,
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then a guy I guess
came by, saw me there,
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so he called the cops.
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So, the cops came
by, said, "Hey,
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the owner of the land
doesn't want you here."
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I said, "No problem,
I'll move on."
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He said, "If you just move
about a half mile down,
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you'll be good," and I was
like, "Oh, okay, cool."
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And then, we got into
a discussion about
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why I was doing
this and whatnot.
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I guess the cop called him back
and said, "Hey, no worries,
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just to let you know,
like, he's gone."
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And, uh, I guess the cop and
the owner started talking
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about what I was doing, and uh,
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the owner of the land
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came rushing back
out to where I was,
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stopped me on the road
and said, "Hey, man,
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anybody that served our
country is more than welcome
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to stay on my land for
as long as they want,
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and thank you for your service."
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I thought that was pretty
cool, but I was already
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down the road a little bit,
so I found a new harbor site
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and camped there.
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Got blisters the size
of silver dollars
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on top of blisters the
size of my entire foot.
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But, that doesn't matter.
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You just lance 'em, and
pack 'em full of powder,
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and keep pushing
through the pain,
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'cause as much as that
physical pain is there,
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uh, I know a lot of our
brothers are dealing with
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emotional stress
and emotional pain.
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Like Gold Star families are
dealing with emotional pain
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that far surpasses
that of my feet.
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So, I'll keep walking.
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See you guys soon.
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The night before the
walk I couldn't sleep.
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I was so damn excited to go,
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so I just left in the
middle of the night.
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♪
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The goal was to get to
Camp Pendleton, California,
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but it wasn't a straight shot.
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Got a lot of people to see,
brothers and Gold Star families,
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and I actually ended
up walking north
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even though my first direction
was to head south to Florida.
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♪
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I sold absolutely
everything I owned.
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If it could get me
a dollar, I sold it.
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♪
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It was heavy.
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It was really heavy.
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♪
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I was scared, and uh,
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that was a big piece
of the first night,
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was, like, constant
questioning of myself, like,
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"Why are you doing this? Are
you sure you wanna do this?"
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Like, "It's 3:00
in the morning now,
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you've been walking for an
hour, like, are you sure
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you really wanna do this?"
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♪
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Coming out of the Marine
Corps was not as I had
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suspected it would be.
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♪
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They lose part of themselves
when they go to war,
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and we just hope
that we can help them
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get all those pieces
and parts back together.
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♪
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Jonathan was a sweet kid,
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and very tender hearted,
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and feelings were hurt easily.
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But, he was obstinate, you
know, if you told him one thing,
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he would do the other.
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There was one year in high
school where that child
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was grounded for just about
every day of the year.
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My pops was the
executive officer
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on a submarine, and he
was constantly gone.
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I think there was one year he
spent almost 300 days at sea.
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Crazy amounts of time
that my mom running,
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you know, these two
boys in the house
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that are just railroading her.
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♪
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Yeah, I don't think he
was out of high school
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a week, 10 days,
he was on the bus.
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On the bus, and on the airplane,
then the bus to Paris Island.
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♪
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I wasn't happy with who
I was in high school.
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I think ultimately
the basic level
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of why everyone joins
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is to change something
about themselves.
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♪
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Hey, uh, what I need you
to do, I'm pulling back
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leaving three right now...
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How fucking rude.
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Go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
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Go, go, go.
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Yeah.
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April 6th, first time I ever
fired my weapon in combat.
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First time I've ever
really been in combat.
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We never... all
we did was train.
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And they were literally
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from me to you.
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Four of 'em ran up
around the corner
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and my buddy and I
just stopped that
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right then and there, and...
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They were on the ground.
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And he says, "They're
still moving."
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So, I shot 'em in the head.
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Stopped that, and then,
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moved, and then we just...
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There was people everywhere,
everybody surrounded
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just two of us.
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And then, six others
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about maybe less than
football field length away,
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and then two others
all by themselves
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somewhere else.
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And it was up close
and it was personal.
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It was a fight, it
was a fucking fight.
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♪
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When you take a life,
that last little bit
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of innocence is lost, and uh,
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in the heat of the
moment it feels fine,
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because you've dehumanized
the enemy enough
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to the point where
they're not even human,
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they don't have a... They
don't have a wife or a kid,
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or anything else, they're
just pieces of shit,
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and you're gonna
just wax all of them.
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And that's the way to do it,
the dehumanization of the enemy
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needs to happen.
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Combat will take that
last little piece,
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that piece that you
thought as a kid,
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"The world is kind
of an okay place,
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and not everybody's bad."
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Combat takes that from you,
and you'll never get that back.
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Spread out, squalors,
spread 'em out!
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The most lethal experience
in Iraq was Ramadi.
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Not Fallujah, not Al Qunun,
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not Baghdad.
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And so, we didn't have tanks,
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we did not have artillery,
and we did not have airplanes,
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because we didn't
wanna break the thing
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that we were trying to save.
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And so, combat was carried out
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by two sides, two groups of men,
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armed almost exactly the same.
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♪
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We're fighting Ramadi, you
know, the enemy, you know,
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they don't wear
uniforms, we don't know
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what they look like, they
look like anybody else,
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and on top of that, you
know, the area's populated.
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00:15:18,413 --> 00:15:20,215
You've got, you know,
women, children,
255
00:15:20,250 --> 00:15:22,415
everybody's there in
the mix of everything,
256
00:15:22,450 --> 00:15:25,253
and just always a
confusion of, you know,
257
00:15:25,288 --> 00:15:27,959
civilians, you know,
who's innocent, who's not.
258
00:15:27,994 --> 00:15:30,060
The enemy can be anybody.
259
00:15:30,095 --> 00:15:31,963
♪
260
00:15:35,034 --> 00:15:36,429
Get down!
261
00:15:36,464 --> 00:15:38,398
Woo, yeah!
262
00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:43,535
Go, go, go, go.
263
00:15:45,506 --> 00:15:48,144
I kinda just figured
that I was gonna die.
264
00:15:48,179 --> 00:15:50,740
When you're there, it seems
kinda like a cliché thing,
265
00:15:50,775 --> 00:15:53,314
but no shit, like,
I was more concerned
266
00:15:53,349 --> 00:15:56,416
about those idiots
over there than myself,
267
00:15:56,451 --> 00:15:58,220
you know what I mean,
like, I wanted to do
268
00:15:58,255 --> 00:16:00,200
the best job that I could to
make sure they all got home
269
00:16:00,224 --> 00:16:01,289
to their families.
270
00:16:07,099 --> 00:16:08,593
In the beginning,
it feels surreal.
271
00:16:08,628 --> 00:16:11,167
There's just a minute where
it's almost slow motion,
272
00:16:11,202 --> 00:16:13,004
it doesn't feel like
it's happening to you.
273
00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:14,511
Thinking about sitting
down and talking to you
274
00:16:14,535 --> 00:16:16,381
the first time I was just,
like, I didn't even know
275
00:16:16,405 --> 00:16:19,076
if I could do that, 'cause
it's so hard to describe.
276
00:16:19,111 --> 00:16:21,507
I mean, I... I'm
struggling with it now.
277
00:16:21,542 --> 00:16:27,986
♪
278
00:16:30,056 --> 00:16:32,518
I think Jonathan was
walking down past AP Hill
279
00:16:32,553 --> 00:16:34,091
and he called me.
280
00:16:34,126 --> 00:16:35,631
He goes, "Mom, I don't
know what I'm doing."
281
00:16:35,655 --> 00:16:38,557
I don't know why I'm doing
it, whom I'm doing it for.
282
00:16:38,592 --> 00:16:41,098
Is it for me, is it
for anybody else?
283
00:16:41,133 --> 00:16:43,232
You know, I just... I
just feel like I should...
284
00:16:43,267 --> 00:16:44,662
"You know, I should quit."
285
00:16:44,697 --> 00:16:46,103
He was so upset.
286
00:16:46,138 --> 00:16:48,138
He was... he was so lost.
287
00:16:48,173 --> 00:16:49,579
She was like, "I can come
pick you up right now,"
288
00:16:49,603 --> 00:16:52,109
'cause what took me
two weeks to walk,
289
00:16:52,144 --> 00:16:55,145
she could come get me in
about, oh, three hours.
290
00:16:56,742 --> 00:17:00,216
He was just in tears,
just in absolute tears,
291
00:17:00,251 --> 00:17:02,218
and my heart just
wrenched, and I was like,
292
00:17:02,253 --> 00:17:05,089
"If that's what you wanna do,
if you wanna come back home,
293
00:17:05,124 --> 00:17:06,651
I will pick you
up this evening."
294
00:17:06,686 --> 00:17:10,820
I said, "Or if you want, you
can go to Virginia Beach,
295
00:17:10,855 --> 00:17:13,724
you know, be with your guys,
and then go on from there."
296
00:17:13,759 --> 00:17:17,299
And I said, "Jonathan," I
said, "This is your walk."
297
00:17:17,334 --> 00:17:19,499
It is what you will make it.
298
00:17:19,534 --> 00:17:25,703
♪
299
00:17:28,345 --> 00:17:36,345
♪
300
00:17:39,022 --> 00:17:42,357
There's just not much great
that happened over there,
301
00:17:42,392 --> 00:17:43,688
and it kinda sucks.
302
00:17:43,723 --> 00:17:46,229
I mean, there is,
but I can't see it.
303
00:17:46,264 --> 00:17:49,133
All I see is
304
00:17:49,168 --> 00:17:52,103
the death, and I just
bring it out in anger
305
00:17:52,138 --> 00:17:53,434
and sadness.
306
00:17:53,469 --> 00:17:57,207
♪
307
00:17:57,242 --> 00:18:00,474
There's many days I
don't even get dressed.
308
00:18:00,509 --> 00:18:02,179
Some days I don't
even brush my teeth,
309
00:18:02,214 --> 00:18:04,214
I'm just so
310
00:18:04,249 --> 00:18:05,776
given up on life at times.
311
00:18:05,811 --> 00:18:08,647
I mean, it just takes
your will to fight.
312
00:18:08,682 --> 00:18:13,520
♪
313
00:18:13,555 --> 00:18:16,556
I go to sleep thinking
about people I shot,
314
00:18:16,591 --> 00:18:19,328
or screaming friends,
315
00:18:19,363 --> 00:18:23,464
and with that
exactly on my mind,
316
00:18:23,499 --> 00:18:26,797
as soon as I'm still laying
in bed trying to roll out,
317
00:18:26,832 --> 00:18:29,800
I'm just thinking
about dead friends,
318
00:18:29,835 --> 00:18:32,143
or death.
319
00:18:32,178 --> 00:18:34,541
It's just death 24-7.
320
00:18:34,576 --> 00:18:38,248
♪
321
00:18:38,283 --> 00:18:40,349
And it's weird, I think
more about death than life
322
00:18:40,384 --> 00:18:43,550
and living.
323
00:18:43,585 --> 00:18:46,553
Can't figure that one out.
324
00:18:46,588 --> 00:18:54,588
♪
325
00:19:24,692 --> 00:19:27,231
- Yeah.
- Oh, shit.
326
00:19:27,266 --> 00:19:30,366
- Oh, man.
- I had a big dick...
327
00:19:30,401 --> 00:19:32,863
Well, let me... Let
me finish speaking.
328
00:19:32,898 --> 00:19:34,502
"I had... I had a big dick."
329
00:19:34,537 --> 00:19:36,966
I had a big dick drawn...
330
00:19:39,608 --> 00:19:41,421
- It was spray paint.
- All right, there we go.
331
00:19:41,445 --> 00:19:43,610
- This can we show?
- I had a big dick once.
332
00:19:45,548 --> 00:19:49,517
Um, yeah, as we were
going into Kuwait,
333
00:19:49,552 --> 00:19:51,519
I had a big old
dick drawn on me...
334
00:19:51,554 --> 00:19:52,883
- Did you?
- With spray paint.
335
00:19:52,918 --> 00:19:54,588
- Nice.
- And then, "69" or something
336
00:19:54,623 --> 00:19:56,568
on me in spray paint, and
walking into the showers
337
00:19:56,592 --> 00:19:59,230
in Kuwait, all
these army people,
338
00:19:59,265 --> 00:20:01,364
there's a bunch of spray
painted dicks on me,
339
00:20:01,399 --> 00:20:03,399
and they're like,
"What the fuck's wrong
340
00:20:03,434 --> 00:20:05,346
with you guys? Like, there's
something fucking wrong
341
00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:06,963
with all of you."
342
00:20:06,998 --> 00:20:09,900
And we're just like,
"Hey, go fuck yourselves."
343
00:20:12,377 --> 00:20:14,773
Marines get together and show
each other their penises.
344
00:20:14,808 --> 00:20:16,511
- It's weird.
- It is very weird.
345
00:20:16,546 --> 00:20:18,579
We do that so often.
346
00:20:18,614 --> 00:20:20,878
Like, why is that
part of this culture?
347
00:20:20,913 --> 00:20:23,749
How did it begin,
and how do we end it?
348
00:20:23,784 --> 00:20:25,685
Honestly, like, yeah,
right, how do we...?
349
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,292
How do we quit that?
350
00:20:28,327 --> 00:20:30,261
That place was interesting.
351
00:20:30,296 --> 00:20:32,428
That place... that place
was very interesting.
352
00:20:32,463 --> 00:20:35,926
Why are we in this
fucking place again?
353
00:20:35,961 --> 00:20:39,699
- Everybody's killing us.
- Everybody's fucking killing us.
354
00:20:39,734 --> 00:20:41,404
It is crazy.
355
00:20:41,439 --> 00:20:42,999
- What are we doing here?
- We need...
356
00:20:43,034 --> 00:20:46,541
Just give me 10 minutes, guys,
I need to fucking breathe.
357
00:20:46,576 --> 00:20:48,411
I need to go jerk off
in the port-o-shitter
358
00:20:48,446 --> 00:20:50,006
and fucking align my qi.
359
00:20:50,041 --> 00:20:51,612
- Yeah.
- A lot of
360
00:20:51,647 --> 00:20:54,043
- interesting times there.
- I learned a lot.
361
00:20:54,078 --> 00:20:56,452
Yeah, I learned a shit load
362
00:20:56,487 --> 00:20:58,025
about a whole lot of things
that I didn't really know
363
00:20:58,049 --> 00:20:59,653
that I needed to know.
364
00:21:01,822 --> 00:21:04,493
So far nothing has
helped in the real world.
365
00:21:04,528 --> 00:21:06,297
Right.
366
00:21:06,332 --> 00:21:07,738
It's like, if I do any
of what I learned there,
367
00:21:07,762 --> 00:21:10,026
I go to jail for a long time.
368
00:21:10,061 --> 00:21:11,797
Not sure I want to enjoy that.
369
00:21:11,832 --> 00:21:14,602
So, I get to be pissed off
and not do anything about it
370
00:21:14,637 --> 00:21:16,032
- for the rest of my life?
- Great.
371
00:21:16,067 --> 00:21:17,539
That kinda sucks.
372
00:21:21,446 --> 00:21:23,611
- Ugh.
- That's why walking's kinda
373
00:21:23,646 --> 00:21:25,943
- been a cool thing for me.
- Yeah.
374
00:21:25,978 --> 00:21:29,452
Just allows you to be
in those memories and...
375
00:21:29,487 --> 00:21:31,685
But you're still
pushing through 'em,
376
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,984
and you're actively walking
so you're expending energy
377
00:21:34,019 --> 00:21:37,361
in a... you know,
with a goal in mind,
378
00:21:37,396 --> 00:21:38,901
and you get to think
about those memories,
379
00:21:38,925 --> 00:21:40,870
but you also get to come
to, like, places like this,
380
00:21:40,894 --> 00:21:44,093
and come to other people
and create new memories.
381
00:21:44,128 --> 00:21:46,029
And that's where it's at for me.
382
00:21:46,064 --> 00:21:47,503
- Fuck yeah.
- Like, I got all
383
00:21:47,538 --> 00:21:49,604
the old memories, I got 'em.
384
00:21:49,639 --> 00:21:52,607
Doesn't mean that they're bad,
385
00:21:52,642 --> 00:21:54,609
but you give 'em so
much due diligence
386
00:21:54,644 --> 00:21:56,083
that at the end of the day
you're like, "Fuck, man,
387
00:21:56,107 --> 00:21:59,515
like, all I think
about is the bad shit."
388
00:21:59,550 --> 00:22:01,715
Yes.
389
00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:03,882
You think you, like, hold out
390
00:22:03,917 --> 00:22:07,589
from actively doing
the work on yourself
391
00:22:07,624 --> 00:22:09,360
because sometimes
beating yourself up
392
00:22:09,395 --> 00:22:10,823
- feels fucking good?
- It does.
393
00:22:10,858 --> 00:22:13,892
I thrive under stress and pain.
394
00:22:13,927 --> 00:22:15,674
That's how the Marine
Corps taught you to live,
395
00:22:15,698 --> 00:22:17,038
so when things are
going smoothly,
396
00:22:17,062 --> 00:22:20,404
it doesn't feel normal,
397
00:22:20,439 --> 00:22:22,901
and even though
that would be great,
398
00:22:22,936 --> 00:22:25,541
but yeah, I think I
tend to beat myself up
399
00:22:25,576 --> 00:22:28,412
just because I need to feel
400
00:22:28,447 --> 00:22:29,919
- glutton for punishment.
- Right, yeah, you're like,
401
00:22:29,943 --> 00:22:32,647
"Fuck it, I need to... Oh,
this shit's going okay?
402
00:22:32,682 --> 00:22:33,912
I need to screw something up."
403
00:22:33,947 --> 00:22:35,155
- Yeah.
- "I need to throw a wrench
404
00:22:35,179 --> 00:22:36,849
in this system right now."
405
00:22:36,884 --> 00:22:39,049
"I'm having a great day,
let me beep at this person
406
00:22:39,084 --> 00:22:41,018
to piss him off to
get me pissed off."
407
00:22:41,053 --> 00:22:42,668
- That's... yeah.
- "So, fucking ruin it all."
408
00:22:42,692 --> 00:22:43,988
Absolutely.
409
00:22:44,023 --> 00:22:45,825
♪
410
00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:48,399
I know I should have
spoken to people
411
00:22:48,434 --> 00:22:50,159
a long, long time ago.
412
00:22:50,194 --> 00:22:52,469
♪
413
00:22:52,504 --> 00:22:55,098
I may never figure it out.
414
00:22:55,133 --> 00:22:56,902
I hope I do, I really do,
415
00:22:56,937 --> 00:22:59,542
or else I'm gonna
have a wasted life.
416
00:22:59,577 --> 00:23:02,545
So, I gotta figure it
out, like, really soon.
417
00:23:02,580 --> 00:23:04,448
♪
418
00:23:04,483 --> 00:23:06,417
And once I do, I'm
gonna feel great.
419
00:23:06,452 --> 00:23:08,518
I'm gonna feel great,
420
00:23:08,553 --> 00:23:09,959
'cause I'm pretty
sure he's feeling
421
00:23:09,983 --> 00:23:12,654
pretty great right now.
422
00:23:12,689 --> 00:23:14,656
You know, sometimes you...
You just don't wanna
423
00:23:14,691 --> 00:23:17,923
upset somebody else
with your own bullshit.
424
00:23:17,958 --> 00:23:20,431
You know, it's not
bullshit, but, you know,
425
00:23:20,466 --> 00:23:22,026
I sit back and go,
"Well, you know,
426
00:23:22,061 --> 00:23:23,665
What if they're not
willing or not...?"
427
00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:25,062
They're always
willing, you know,
428
00:23:25,097 --> 00:23:27,130
"What if I put
them in a bad place
429
00:23:27,165 --> 00:23:28,934
just from talking?"
430
00:23:28,969 --> 00:23:30,540
And you know, that
thought's there,
431
00:23:30,575 --> 00:23:33,477
and it's real, but it's stupid,
432
00:23:33,512 --> 00:23:35,809
because they're gonna
say, "Just call, shut up,
433
00:23:35,844 --> 00:23:38,075
and just call."
434
00:23:40,145 --> 00:23:42,981
I know, but don't all
and fucking get in this
435
00:23:43,016 --> 00:23:45,181
doom and gloom shit.
436
00:23:45,216 --> 00:23:47,689
Life sucks, man, it's hard.
437
00:23:49,957 --> 00:23:53,057
But, we keep doing it.
438
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,766
I love you, too, I'll
talk to you soon.
439
00:23:58,801 --> 00:24:02,671
I'll see you in California in
fucking December, motherfucka.
440
00:24:02,706 --> 00:24:04,233
- All right.
- Hell yeah.
441
00:24:04,268 --> 00:24:05,872
Hey, uh, call me...
Call me tomorrow
442
00:24:05,907 --> 00:24:08,479
let me know
everything's cool, okay?
443
00:24:08,514 --> 00:24:10,646
- All right.
- All right, brother.
444
00:24:10,681 --> 00:24:13,011
Bye.
445
00:24:13,046 --> 00:24:15,816
- He's having a tough night.
- Who's that?
446
00:24:15,851 --> 00:24:17,884
Uh, Trevor Croswell.
447
00:24:17,919 --> 00:24:19,721
He wants to be a dad and...
448
00:24:19,756 --> 00:24:22,856
And just, you know, I mean,
sometimes life gets to people,
449
00:24:22,891 --> 00:24:24,825
and it just...
Just hits 'em hard,
450
00:24:24,860 --> 00:24:26,893
and they try to... They
try to navigate it, man,
451
00:24:26,928 --> 00:24:28,994
and like, you know,
I'm glad that...
452
00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:30,809
I'm glad that he reached
out versus just sitting
453
00:24:30,833 --> 00:24:32,998
in the dark sulking.
454
00:24:33,033 --> 00:24:34,945
You know, the funny thing is
I heard a bunch of years ago,
455
00:24:34,969 --> 00:24:36,243
it's like, if everybody
sit in the circle
456
00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:38,003
and threw their
problems in the center
457
00:24:38,038 --> 00:24:39,840
so they were all open
and out in the open
458
00:24:39,875 --> 00:24:41,776
and you knew what
everybody's problems were,
459
00:24:41,811 --> 00:24:45,142
you'd want your problems back.
460
00:24:45,177 --> 00:24:47,122
It's just one of those things
you had to be there for.
461
00:24:47,146 --> 00:24:50,246
You... you see that number
and you gotta answer it.
462
00:24:50,281 --> 00:24:53,854
It's not... there's no
if, ands, ors about it.
463
00:24:53,889 --> 00:24:55,636
You see a phone call from
a Marine Corps brother,
464
00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:57,891
you answer the
phone, and you say,
465
00:24:57,926 --> 00:24:59,167
"Hey, I'm gonna
be there for you,
466
00:24:59,191 --> 00:25:00,960
and then through thick
and thin, I'm there."
467
00:25:00,995 --> 00:25:04,161
This is a brotherhood that no...
People don't even understand.
468
00:25:04,196 --> 00:25:06,570
You know, if you're a
veteran and it's hurtin',
469
00:25:06,605 --> 00:25:08,638
you know, you fought with
some of your brothers.
470
00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:10,739
You know, call 'em.
471
00:25:10,774 --> 00:25:12,840
You know, this guy's
not doing so well,
472
00:25:12,875 --> 00:25:14,589
is there anyone near by
that maybe can go have
473
00:25:14,613 --> 00:25:16,877
a fucking steak with them
or something, you know.
474
00:25:16,912 --> 00:25:18,681
Look, suicide is
an important thing.
475
00:25:18,716 --> 00:25:20,683
Maybe there needs
to be more shrinks.
476
00:25:20,718 --> 00:25:23,554
There's suicide hotlines,
I'm your suicide hotline.
477
00:25:23,589 --> 00:25:25,655
♪
478
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:27,624
You know, guys from other
company I didn't know,
479
00:25:27,659 --> 00:25:29,670
and you're hearing that they
fucking offed themselves,
480
00:25:29,694 --> 00:25:34,158
and like, obviously you
can't fucking, uh...
481
00:25:36,899 --> 00:25:38,965
Obviously you can't
fucking help those guys
482
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,307
'cause you don't
know 'em, you know.
483
00:25:40,331 --> 00:25:43,574
It just sucks to hear
about it, but you know,
484
00:25:43,609 --> 00:25:46,071
the fucking pain for those
guys doesn't go away.
485
00:25:46,106 --> 00:25:48,744
It's just transferred to
fucking everybody else.
486
00:25:48,779 --> 00:25:51,681
That shit is so fucking selfish.
487
00:25:51,716 --> 00:25:54,112
Just fucking answer
the goddamn phone, man,
488
00:25:54,147 --> 00:25:56,191
or reach out if you're having
a fucking tough go at it.
489
00:25:56,215 --> 00:25:57,819
We've all been there.
490
00:25:57,854 --> 00:25:59,953
It's not a fucking
sign of weakness
491
00:25:59,988 --> 00:26:01,691
to pick up your phone,
and just be like,
492
00:26:01,726 --> 00:26:03,792
"Hey, man, I'm
having a hard time."
493
00:26:03,827 --> 00:26:05,794
You know?
494
00:26:05,829 --> 00:26:07,730
It's fucking... that's strength.
495
00:26:07,765 --> 00:26:10,293
That's fucking strength.
496
00:26:10,328 --> 00:26:18,328
♪
497
00:26:30,722 --> 00:26:32,986
Man, after I started this walk,
498
00:26:33,021 --> 00:26:35,692
a guy that I've never met before
499
00:26:35,727 --> 00:26:39,289
who was dealing with some
really hardcore things,
500
00:26:39,324 --> 00:26:41,896
he, uh... he lost that battle.
501
00:26:41,931 --> 00:26:43,865
So, I met that family,
502
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:47,066
and just immediately
fell in love with 'em.
503
00:26:47,101 --> 00:26:48,870
The mom's just too sweet.
504
00:26:48,905 --> 00:26:50,971
So, bottom line is...
505
00:26:51,006 --> 00:26:53,809
Is she asked me if I
would wear his shoes,
506
00:26:53,844 --> 00:26:56,174
and I was in need of
a new pair of shoes,
507
00:26:56,209 --> 00:26:59,045
and uh, man, I said, "Hell yeah,
508
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,245
if they fit, I'll
totally rock these."
509
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,084
So, I've been walking
with Mikey Simon's boots.
510
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,285
So, he's gonna carry me
all the way to the end
511
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,023
in Pendleton.
512
00:27:10,058 --> 00:27:13,224
♪ Life flag down,
act like a fool ♪
513
00:27:13,259 --> 00:27:16,799
♪ Imagine me, now imagine you ♪
514
00:27:16,834 --> 00:27:20,000
♪ Racing hearts be criminal ♪
515
00:27:20,035 --> 00:27:22,970
♪ What are we, just animal ♪
516
00:27:23,005 --> 00:27:26,270
♪ When the lights go down
and there's only shadows ♪
517
00:27:26,305 --> 00:27:30,043
♪ And the chaos forms in
the depths of your bones ♪
518
00:27:30,078 --> 00:27:33,013
♪ Lonely hearts ♪
519
00:27:33,048 --> 00:27:36,753
♪ Breed lonely souls ♪
520
00:27:36,788 --> 00:27:39,756
♪ Look for me like
you did before ♪
521
00:27:39,791 --> 00:27:43,056
♪ And I'll find my way
through the broken door ♪
522
00:27:43,091 --> 00:27:46,224
♪ 'Cause no one knows ♪
523
00:27:46,259 --> 00:27:48,963
♪ This heavy toll ♪
524
00:27:48,998 --> 00:27:55,937
♪ Hey, carry me through
these lonely days ♪
525
00:27:55,972 --> 00:27:57,840
♪ Carry me through ♪
526
00:27:57,875 --> 00:28:02,108
♪
527
00:28:02,143 --> 00:28:09,016
♪ Hey, carry me through
these lonely days ♪
528
00:28:09,051 --> 00:28:11,854
♪ Carry me through ♪
529
00:28:11,889 --> 00:28:19,889
♪
530
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:35,812
♪ Yeah, you carry me
through these lonely days ♪
531
00:28:35,847 --> 00:28:37,473
♪ You carry me through ♪
532
00:28:37,508 --> 00:28:45,415
♪
533
00:28:47,551 --> 00:28:49,991
Remember, don't fear
noises in the night,
534
00:28:50,026 --> 00:28:51,426
because things
that wanna kill you
535
00:28:51,456 --> 00:28:54,193
will stalk you silently,
have a good day.
536
00:28:54,228 --> 00:28:55,997
So, everybody's posted videos
537
00:28:56,032 --> 00:28:57,900
of summer
538
00:28:57,935 --> 00:29:01,838
and fucking sun,
539
00:29:01,873 --> 00:29:03,235
and I'm over here, like...
540
00:29:05,272 --> 00:29:07,041
Son of a bitch.
541
00:29:08,946 --> 00:29:12,013
I pull into a gas
station, and uh,
542
00:29:12,048 --> 00:29:14,180
feet are kinda
thrashed, so I walk in
543
00:29:14,215 --> 00:29:16,413
and grab myself a Gatorade
544
00:29:16,448 --> 00:29:19,823
and some Gummy Bears,
545
00:29:19,858 --> 00:29:22,320
and there's a dude behind me
546
00:29:22,355 --> 00:29:25,092
that gets in line
in front of me,
547
00:29:25,127 --> 00:29:27,292
and I'm like, "Hey,
bro, I was in line."
548
00:29:27,327 --> 00:29:29,294
And he says, uh,
549
00:29:29,329 --> 00:29:31,835
"How are you gonna
pay for that?"
550
00:29:31,870 --> 00:29:33,936
I was like, "How am I
gonna pay for what?"
551
00:29:33,971 --> 00:29:35,245
He said, "How are you
gonna pay for this...
552
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:36,939
How are you gonna pay for this?
553
00:29:36,974 --> 00:29:40,569
Homeless people don't
have any money."
554
00:29:40,604 --> 00:29:43,880
Lot of, uh... Lot
of reflection today.
555
00:29:43,915 --> 00:29:45,442
Have a good day.
556
00:29:45,477 --> 00:29:48,313
Ah, dude, I missed the
shit out of you, brother.
557
00:29:48,348 --> 00:29:49,985
- Fuck yeah.
- How you been?
558
00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:52,218
Good, bro, good, just doing
it, you know what I mean?
559
00:29:52,253 --> 00:29:53,582
Good, hell yeah.
560
00:29:53,617 --> 00:29:55,265
Getting a little red
in the face in the sun.
561
00:29:55,289 --> 00:29:57,223
I know it, dude, I
know it, I know it.
562
00:29:57,258 --> 00:29:59,522
Hi, guys, how are you? I'm Jon.
563
00:29:59,557 --> 00:30:01,524
- Hi.
- Name's Michael.
564
00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:04,197
Hi, Michael, Michael,
you look beautiful.
565
00:30:07,235 --> 00:30:08,872
Get down.
566
00:30:08,907 --> 00:30:12,205
I remember the shock that
it all just happened,
567
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,043
and it took a while
for it to set in, like,
568
00:30:15,078 --> 00:30:17,606
if me and Powers are
gonna switch, like,
569
00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:19,949
you know, would it
have been me, or what?
570
00:30:19,984 --> 00:30:21,885
- Right?
- It's...
571
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,481
That's the hardest one I fucking
think about all the time.
572
00:30:24,516 --> 00:30:26,318
Yeah, we had to put
you guys to bed, man.
573
00:30:26,353 --> 00:30:27,990
We were like, "Go
home, go home."
574
00:30:28,025 --> 00:30:29,629
You guys relieved us, we
went back to Snake Pit
575
00:30:29,653 --> 00:30:32,159
and everyone back, and
I listened to that song.
576
00:30:32,194 --> 00:30:34,128
- "Bro Hymn" from Pennywise.
- Yeah, yeah.
577
00:30:34,163 --> 00:30:36,526
I... it took me,
578
00:30:36,561 --> 00:30:38,308
fuck, almost 10 years
to be able to sit down
579
00:30:38,332 --> 00:30:40,013
- and listen to that song.
- Listen to that song, yeah.
580
00:30:40,037 --> 00:30:42,246
'Cause any time that song
would come on, I'd start crying
581
00:30:42,270 --> 00:30:44,303
and I'd fucking get
violent as fuck.
582
00:30:44,338 --> 00:30:45,909
Yeah, dude.
583
00:30:45,944 --> 00:30:47,218
There it is, that's
the view of the ghetto
584
00:30:47,242 --> 00:30:50,078
from the Snake Pit.
585
00:30:50,113 --> 00:30:52,146
Fuckin' right.
586
00:30:54,414 --> 00:30:55,589
When I got out of
the Marine Corps,
587
00:30:55,613 --> 00:30:56,846
I moved into here,
588
00:30:56,881 --> 00:31:00,319
and like, I was going to the VA,
and the only thing they wanna do
589
00:31:00,354 --> 00:31:02,453
- is give me pills.
- That's it, that's it.
590
00:31:02,488 --> 00:31:05,060
I didn't want their
pills, I wanted help,
591
00:31:05,095 --> 00:31:07,040
and they just kept trying to
give me pills, give me pills,
592
00:31:07,064 --> 00:31:08,899
give me pills, and
fucking finally I had
593
00:31:08,934 --> 00:31:12,628
the "fuck you" match
with the wizard up there,
594
00:31:12,663 --> 00:31:15,169
- and never went back.
- Right.
595
00:31:15,204 --> 00:31:17,204
Then, I just... I
started drinking a lot.
596
00:31:17,239 --> 00:31:20,570
A lot, a lot, and I was
kinda going nowhere.
597
00:31:20,605 --> 00:31:22,121
Then, a buddy hooked
me up with a job,
598
00:31:22,145 --> 00:31:24,145
but there was no...
It was a good job,
599
00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:26,213
I mean, it was a
great job, good money.
600
00:31:26,248 --> 00:31:27,984
- Right.
- But, it just wasn't for me.
601
00:31:28,019 --> 00:31:32,186
It's like, I spent
my youth overseas,
602
00:31:32,221 --> 00:31:34,254
so now I'm trying to
do my college days.
603
00:31:34,289 --> 00:31:38,060
- Well, I'm not 18, I'm 23.
- Right.
604
00:31:38,095 --> 00:31:40,106
You know what I mean, so
I... Four or five year party
605
00:31:40,130 --> 00:31:42,966
and just kept going, and
got deeper in the bottle,
606
00:31:43,001 --> 00:31:44,968
and there was a few
times where, like,
607
00:31:45,003 --> 00:31:46,244
you were talking
about the pills,
608
00:31:46,268 --> 00:31:48,103
there was a few
times I had pistols
609
00:31:48,138 --> 00:31:50,072
and all this other shit
around, and I was like,
610
00:31:50,107 --> 00:31:51,700
"Ah, I could eat this."
611
00:31:51,735 --> 00:31:54,978
Now, I get a phone call that
someone else had did it,
612
00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:56,540
and it's... it would hurt more,
613
00:31:56,575 --> 00:31:58,421
and it was one of those
like, "I can't do that shit,"
614
00:31:58,445 --> 00:32:00,082
you know what I mean,
like, fuck that.
615
00:32:00,117 --> 00:32:02,051
- Yeah.
- I'm not gonna be a statistic.
616
00:32:02,086 --> 00:32:04,482
I didn't realize what
he had actually...
617
00:32:04,517 --> 00:32:06,253
What you guys had
actually, like...
618
00:32:06,288 --> 00:32:08,354
She thought I was
always an asshole.
619
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:12,127
No, no, no.
620
00:32:12,162 --> 00:32:14,657
But, I didn't... I
had never fathomed,
621
00:32:14,692 --> 00:32:16,461
like, what it actually...
Like, what you guys
622
00:32:16,496 --> 00:32:18,276
actually went through,
what actually happened,
623
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:20,344
and then watching the news
and they explained it, like...
624
00:32:20,368 --> 00:32:22,368
I was like, "Holy shit."
625
00:32:22,403 --> 00:32:26,009
It was a lot worse
than he had let on.
626
00:32:26,044 --> 00:32:27,406
- You know?
- Sure.
627
00:32:27,441 --> 00:32:30,013
'Cause I mean, like I told
you, he doesn't really...
628
00:32:30,048 --> 00:32:31,278
- Right.
- Talk about it.
629
00:32:31,313 --> 00:32:34,512
Another day anyways.
630
00:32:34,547 --> 00:32:36,349
- Wow.
- Semper Fidelis.
631
00:32:36,384 --> 00:32:38,351
Thank you, and thank you.
632
00:32:38,386 --> 00:32:41,750
Always faithful, always.
633
00:32:41,785 --> 00:32:45,391
♪
634
00:32:45,426 --> 00:32:48,328
Not one guy came home
from Ramadi unchanged,
635
00:32:48,363 --> 00:32:51,100
unscathed, unscarred.
636
00:32:51,135 --> 00:32:54,466
I left and went to a new field
637
00:32:54,501 --> 00:32:58,602
that delved me deeper into
the world of the enemy,
638
00:32:58,637 --> 00:33:00,208
and I learned about them.
639
00:33:00,243 --> 00:33:02,309
I fought them on an intellectual
640
00:33:02,344 --> 00:33:05,378
and physical level.
641
00:33:05,413 --> 00:33:08,051
That changed me even more.
642
00:33:08,086 --> 00:33:12,583
♪
643
00:33:12,618 --> 00:33:16,158
I think that a lot
of what Jon did
644
00:33:16,193 --> 00:33:18,358
in the part of his career
where he was an interrogator
645
00:33:18,393 --> 00:33:21,229
probably made that
PTSD a lot worse,
646
00:33:21,264 --> 00:33:22,670
because he had to
compartmentalize it
647
00:33:22,694 --> 00:33:25,398
and shove those emotions
away for so long,
648
00:33:25,433 --> 00:33:27,565
and in such a
disciplined fashion.
649
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,380
You can only do that to
the human psyche so much
650
00:33:29,404 --> 00:33:31,239
before things start
going haywire.
651
00:33:33,375 --> 00:33:37,113
Having served with both
Jon and Robin in CI,
652
00:33:37,148 --> 00:33:39,775
at the other side of the
table as a clinician,
653
00:33:39,810 --> 00:33:43,053
I can understand how people
that have experienced
654
00:33:43,088 --> 00:33:44,527
what they experienced
in the military
655
00:33:44,551 --> 00:33:46,485
would be reluctant
to tell somebody
656
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,454
that's a civilian, because
they don't feel like
657
00:33:48,489 --> 00:33:50,621
they would understand
the context.
658
00:33:50,656 --> 00:33:52,161
You're raiding torture houses,
659
00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:54,625
and you're investigating
kidnappings,
660
00:33:54,660 --> 00:33:57,133
and you're stopping cells from
putting bombs in the roads,
661
00:33:57,168 --> 00:33:59,102
and stopping sniper
cells, and on top of that
662
00:33:59,137 --> 00:34:00,675
you do interrogations,
and you're just
663
00:34:00,699 --> 00:34:02,204
sucking them dry.
664
00:34:02,239 --> 00:34:05,075
You're a thing, you're
a fucking monster.
665
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:07,836
You're a force of something
666
00:34:07,871 --> 00:34:09,640
that is about to rip
something else open
667
00:34:09,675 --> 00:34:11,378
and leave it there
just in a puddle,
668
00:34:11,413 --> 00:34:13,611
because you need all
of what they have,
669
00:34:13,646 --> 00:34:15,448
and you've gotta figure
out how to get it.
670
00:34:15,483 --> 00:34:18,616
You becoming a person
who has a lot of skills,
671
00:34:18,651 --> 00:34:23,192
and you do have a predisposition
for using them in abusive ways,
672
00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:26,393
and that... I wouldn't say
that gives you a God complex,
673
00:34:26,428 --> 00:34:29,165
but it does... It does
give you the sense
674
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,531
of superiority and advantage,
675
00:34:32,566 --> 00:34:34,632
and whether that's
real or imagined
676
00:34:34,667 --> 00:34:37,272
I don't think really
matters, 'cause if you think
677
00:34:37,307 --> 00:34:38,878
you're better then you
think you're better,
678
00:34:38,902 --> 00:34:40,539
and you're gonna act
like that, right?
679
00:34:40,574 --> 00:34:42,321
Or if you think you know
more, you think you know
680
00:34:42,345 --> 00:34:43,553
how to argue better,
you think you can
681
00:34:43,577 --> 00:34:45,346
get what you want
out of someone.
682
00:34:45,381 --> 00:34:47,227
Just 'cause you can get what
you want out of a terrorist,
683
00:34:47,251 --> 00:34:49,812
doesn't mean you can get what
you want out of your spouse.
684
00:34:49,847 --> 00:34:52,419
I'd gone from doing some
of the spookiest shit
685
00:34:52,454 --> 00:34:56,390
that I've ever done,
and then within a week
686
00:34:56,425 --> 00:34:57,699
I was sitting down
at a college class
687
00:34:57,723 --> 00:35:00,460
that I was already
two weeks late for.
688
00:35:00,495 --> 00:35:03,628
His first year, he
set the world on fire
689
00:35:03,663 --> 00:35:05,432
at University of
Maryland, did a great job.
690
00:35:05,467 --> 00:35:07,667
He looked great, and he was
ready to take on the world.
691
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:10,272
And you know, you go to school
with a bunch of 18 year olds,
692
00:35:10,307 --> 00:35:13,209
and all they wanna know is,
"How many people did you kill?"
693
00:35:13,244 --> 00:35:15,343
He is very smart and talented.
694
00:35:15,378 --> 00:35:16,872
Nobody can deny that,
695
00:35:16,907 --> 00:35:19,215
but at some point
696
00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:22,317
I think that other
side took over.
697
00:35:22,352 --> 00:35:25,320
♪
698
00:35:27,555 --> 00:35:32,426
♪
699
00:35:32,461 --> 00:35:34,857
When I came home in
2010, I was at UMD
700
00:35:34,892 --> 00:35:37,365
and I was studying
Arabic and Russian.
701
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,202
Quickly the floodgates opened,
702
00:35:39,237 --> 00:35:42,502
and these memories from all
of these different deployments
703
00:35:42,537 --> 00:35:46,275
and these different worlds
that I was in just came back,
704
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:49,575
and I didn't have any control
over where my mind was going,
705
00:35:49,610 --> 00:35:51,676
or what I was thinking
about, or how I was
706
00:35:51,711 --> 00:35:53,810
getting to those memories,
707
00:35:53,845 --> 00:35:55,779
and I couldn't stop
them from happening.
708
00:35:55,814 --> 00:35:58,518
I was very angry very quickly.
709
00:35:58,553 --> 00:36:00,487
It just kept happening,
more, and more,
710
00:36:00,522 --> 00:36:02,885
and more memories.
711
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,822
There's many loud moments
all over the fucking place,
712
00:36:05,857 --> 00:36:07,857
and I'm trying to do my best
713
00:36:07,892 --> 00:36:09,562
to figure it the fuck out.
714
00:36:09,597 --> 00:36:11,960
I can't figure it out.
715
00:36:11,995 --> 00:36:14,369
You never get any sleep,
I try to get sleep,
716
00:36:14,404 --> 00:36:16,536
I can't get sleep,
I drink to sleep.
717
00:36:16,571 --> 00:36:19,374
I'm no longer in school
because I'd rather drink,
718
00:36:19,409 --> 00:36:21,508
because now the
memories are so bad
719
00:36:21,543 --> 00:36:23,345
that all I'm doing is
drinking to quell them,
720
00:36:23,380 --> 00:36:24,885
instead of even
trying to do anything,
721
00:36:24,909 --> 00:36:26,546
and then, you know, years later,
722
00:36:26,581 --> 00:36:29,912
now I'm drinking to
watch homecomings
723
00:36:29,947 --> 00:36:31,815
of people, and now
I'm thinking back
724
00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:34,422
to homecomings of guys that
never got to come home,
725
00:36:34,457 --> 00:36:36,930
and now I'm even more depressed,
and so I'm drinking even more.
726
00:36:36,954 --> 00:36:44,954
♪
727
00:36:46,271 --> 00:36:49,635
Jon was always getting into
some kind of altercation,
728
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:51,252
and they was always like,
"Dude, what's going on?"
729
00:36:51,276 --> 00:36:53,672
He's like, "Ha,
got into a fight.
730
00:36:53,707 --> 00:36:56,741
Some jackass tried to
jump me," or you know,
731
00:36:56,776 --> 00:36:58,512
"Some jackass rear-ended me,"
732
00:36:58,547 --> 00:37:00,976
or something, there
was always something.
733
00:37:01,011 --> 00:37:04,353
♪
734
00:37:04,388 --> 00:37:06,520
When I first met Jon,
we got in a fight,
735
00:37:06,555 --> 00:37:08,687
and I'm a big guy, I'm
6' 3", I'm 330 pounds.
736
00:37:08,722 --> 00:37:10,359
I'm not scared of any
man in this world,
737
00:37:10,394 --> 00:37:12,790
but when someone looks
at you and you can tell,
738
00:37:12,825 --> 00:37:14,858
like, "I have no
fear for myself."
739
00:37:14,893 --> 00:37:16,959
Like, that's... That's
a humbling thing.
740
00:37:16,994 --> 00:37:19,995
To look at somebody like
that, it's just like,
741
00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:22,602
"You really don't
care if I hurt you."
742
00:37:22,637 --> 00:37:24,769
Like, that's almost
something that you need,
743
00:37:24,804 --> 00:37:27,310
like he wanted it to happen.
744
00:37:27,345 --> 00:37:29,279
I remember there was
one night, and this was
745
00:37:29,314 --> 00:37:31,776
a couple years later actually,
and we're driving home,
746
00:37:31,811 --> 00:37:34,284
and he's like, "Fuck it, you
feel like dying tonight?"
747
00:37:34,319 --> 00:37:36,550
Kinda looked at him like
joking, I was like, "What?"
748
00:37:36,585 --> 00:37:38,398
He's like laughing and joking,
and I'm like, "Yeah, bro,
749
00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:39,498
I'm with you no matter
what, I'll ride until
750
00:37:39,522 --> 00:37:40,950
the wheels fall off."
751
00:37:40,985 --> 00:37:43,722
He's like, "All right,
fuck it, we're going 120."
752
00:37:43,757 --> 00:37:46,296
And he looks over
at me and smiles.
753
00:37:46,331 --> 00:37:48,727
That was petrifying.
754
00:37:48,762 --> 00:37:51,499
You know, he was... that's
the... That... in that state
755
00:37:51,534 --> 00:37:54,568
where he was at his
worst, that was him.
756
00:37:54,603 --> 00:37:56,504
♪
757
00:37:56,539 --> 00:37:58,704
He was not like that before,
758
00:37:58,739 --> 00:38:02,444
and whenever he
was at his worst,
759
00:38:02,479 --> 00:38:04,677
he wasn't in touch with me,
760
00:38:04,712 --> 00:38:06,778
and that just goes to show that,
761
00:38:06,813 --> 00:38:10,012
I mean, he kept the ones
that were close to him...
762
00:38:10,047 --> 00:38:11,849
He closed them out.
763
00:38:11,884 --> 00:38:18,856
♪
764
00:38:21,597 --> 00:38:26,501
♪
765
00:38:26,536 --> 00:38:29,031
♪ They say I'm too late ♪
766
00:38:29,066 --> 00:38:32,408
♪ Got nothing in my brain ♪
767
00:38:32,443 --> 00:38:35,477
♪ That's what people say ♪
768
00:38:35,512 --> 00:38:37,941
♪ That's what people say ♪
769
00:38:37,976 --> 00:38:41,417
♪ I go on too many dates ♪
770
00:38:41,452 --> 00:38:44,453
♪ But I can't make 'em stay ♪
771
00:38:44,488 --> 00:38:47,489
♪ That's what
people say, mm, mm ♪
772
00:38:47,524 --> 00:38:49,920
♪
773
00:38:49,955 --> 00:38:52,659
♪ But I keep cruising ♪
774
00:38:52,694 --> 00:38:55,662
♪ Can't stop,
won't stop moving ♪
775
00:38:55,697 --> 00:38:58,665
♪ It's like I got this music ♪
776
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:03,670
♪ In my mind saying it's
gonna be all right ♪
777
00:39:03,705 --> 00:39:06,970
So, I woke up this
morning to this skunk,
778
00:39:07,005 --> 00:39:09,841
and her little
fucking skunk babies,
779
00:39:09,876 --> 00:39:11,777
and they just stared at me.
780
00:39:11,812 --> 00:39:13,548
And then, the mother
kinda turned around,
781
00:39:13,583 --> 00:39:15,077
and I was like,
"Oh, no, no, no!"
782
00:39:15,112 --> 00:39:17,981
So, I jumped back in my
tent and just kinda screamed
783
00:39:18,016 --> 00:39:20,786
and yelled, and they
didn't spray me,
784
00:39:20,821 --> 00:39:22,854
and I'm okay,
785
00:39:22,889 --> 00:39:26,429
'cause that would've
been really tough, man.
786
00:39:26,464 --> 00:39:29,663
That's been... I think that's
probably the worst fear
787
00:39:29,698 --> 00:39:31,401
is not like getting
hit by a truck,
788
00:39:31,436 --> 00:39:34,404
or fuckin' having to go
toe-to-toe with a mountain lion
789
00:39:34,439 --> 00:39:36,802
or a bear or
something, or a moose.
790
00:39:36,837 --> 00:39:38,408
A moose would... ugh.
791
00:39:38,443 --> 00:39:40,740
But, I think the worst...
792
00:39:40,775 --> 00:39:44,546
The worst fear is getting
just doused by a skunk,
793
00:39:44,581 --> 00:39:47,813
and then just having
to walk for a few days,
794
00:39:47,848 --> 00:39:49,518
and then what happens?
Then, I show up
795
00:39:49,553 --> 00:39:51,916
at somebody's house, and
I just reek to high heaven
796
00:39:51,951 --> 00:39:54,017
and they wouldn't let
me in, and then what?
797
00:39:54,052 --> 00:39:55,887
I gotta, like, sit in
their front yard naked
798
00:39:55,922 --> 00:39:58,791
with a... like, four
cans of tomato sauce.
799
00:39:58,826 --> 00:40:01,761
I mean, it's... yeah, so,
good thing that didn't happen.
800
00:40:01,796 --> 00:40:05,028
I'm at somewhat of a... a
weird... A weird decision.
801
00:40:05,063 --> 00:40:08,064
I don't know what
to do right now.
802
00:40:08,099 --> 00:40:10,836
So, I'm out in the
middle of nowhere.
803
00:40:10,871 --> 00:40:12,541
Pretty fucking gorgeous, though.
804
00:40:12,576 --> 00:40:14,103
And as I'm walking,
805
00:40:14,138 --> 00:40:17,744
look what is lying
right on the ground.
806
00:40:17,779 --> 00:40:21,143
That's real, so I guess
I gotta call the police
807
00:40:21,178 --> 00:40:22,980
and let them know.
808
00:40:23,015 --> 00:40:26,687
Uh, I... I don't
really wanna touch it,
809
00:40:26,722 --> 00:40:28,920
'cause if it does
have bodies on it,
810
00:40:28,955 --> 00:40:30,592
I look like a transient,
811
00:40:30,627 --> 00:40:33,496
and then they're gonna
pin all the murders on me.
812
00:41:07,697 --> 00:41:10,896
Well, I'm here.
813
00:41:10,931 --> 00:41:12,161
It's pretty cool.
814
00:41:12,196 --> 00:41:15,736
I'm, uh... I am now at
815
00:41:15,771 --> 00:41:17,034
the Wiley Ranch.
816
00:41:17,069 --> 00:41:19,707
I see him coming to Mommy's.
817
00:41:19,742 --> 00:41:21,137
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
818
00:41:21,172 --> 00:41:22,974
♪
819
00:41:23,009 --> 00:41:26,681
- I'm so excited.
- He walked a long way.
820
00:41:26,716 --> 00:41:29,816
I'm so excited.
821
00:41:29,851 --> 00:41:32,555
- Look like rag doll.
- That's right.
822
00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:33,864
I can tell you've been
wearing that thing for,
823
00:41:33,888 --> 00:41:35,591
- like, a year, dude.
- Dude.
824
00:41:35,626 --> 00:41:37,890
- Crazy.
- What's up, brother?
825
00:41:37,925 --> 00:41:39,793
Oh, man.
826
00:41:39,828 --> 00:41:42,092
♪
827
00:41:44,063 --> 00:41:45,634
How are you, man?
828
00:41:45,669 --> 00:41:47,867
Good to see you, I'm
sweaty as shit, brother.
829
00:41:47,902 --> 00:41:50,133
Oh, good to see you.
830
00:41:52,005 --> 00:41:53,840
- What's up, man?
- Nothing.
831
00:41:53,875 --> 00:41:55,545
Ugh.
832
00:41:55,580 --> 00:41:57,019
Now we got this hill, and
I'm like, I just went up
833
00:41:57,043 --> 00:41:58,823
- a bunch of hills.
- I told you it was all hills.
834
00:41:58,847 --> 00:42:02,651
♪
835
00:42:02,686 --> 00:42:05,181
♪ Wind blows wild ♪
836
00:42:05,216 --> 00:42:09,559
♪ These thoughts
inside my mind ♪
837
00:42:09,594 --> 00:42:11,220
♪
838
00:42:11,255 --> 00:42:13,255
♪ Don't mind ♪
839
00:42:13,290 --> 00:42:16,093
♪
840
00:42:16,128 --> 00:42:18,733
- So, I came from Maryland.
- What?
841
00:42:18,768 --> 00:42:21,032
It's way far away from
here, and I walked here.
842
00:42:21,067 --> 00:42:22,671
- What?
- What?
843
00:42:22,706 --> 00:42:24,574
Yeah, I walked here.
844
00:42:24,609 --> 00:42:26,334
- Why?
- Um...
845
00:42:26,369 --> 00:42:29,271
- This is the moment.
- So, I walked here
846
00:42:29,306 --> 00:42:32,780
because of your daddy.
847
00:42:32,815 --> 00:42:34,155
'Cause your daddy
and I are brothers
848
00:42:34,179 --> 00:42:35,728
and we served together
in the Marine Corps.
849
00:42:35,752 --> 00:42:37,719
We were fighting guys together.
850
00:42:37,754 --> 00:42:39,314
- What?
- Yeah, so we were
851
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:41,624
big, strong fighting men.
852
00:42:41,659 --> 00:42:43,252
Um, I could fight, too.
853
00:42:43,287 --> 00:42:46,123
You can, but you don't have
to because we protect you.
854
00:42:46,158 --> 00:42:47,663
- Right?
- Yeah.
855
00:42:47,698 --> 00:42:50,061
Yeah, so you get to
just be a princess.
856
00:42:50,096 --> 00:42:51,931
Yeah, or, well, in this case,
857
00:42:51,966 --> 00:42:54,802
you get to be Rapunzel.
858
00:42:54,837 --> 00:42:59,202
♪ I'm taken back by all
these different footprints ♪
859
00:42:59,237 --> 00:43:01,171
♪
860
00:43:01,206 --> 00:43:04,911
♪ Littered all along
this lonely road ♪
861
00:43:04,946 --> 00:43:07,276
♪
862
00:43:07,311 --> 00:43:11,720
♪ Loosening these
worn out inhibitions ♪
863
00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:13,348
♪
864
00:43:13,383 --> 00:43:17,759
♪ Covering this
tired, lonely soul ♪
865
00:43:17,794 --> 00:43:19,728
♪
866
00:43:19,763 --> 00:43:23,226
♪ Wind blows wild
these thoughts ♪
867
00:43:23,261 --> 00:43:28,099
♪ Inside my mind ♪
868
00:43:28,134 --> 00:43:30,167
♪ Don't mind ♪
869
00:43:30,202 --> 00:43:33,104
♪
870
00:43:33,139 --> 00:43:36,041
♪ My thoughts are ♪
871
00:43:36,076 --> 00:43:39,011
♪ Like Moses ♪
872
00:43:39,046 --> 00:43:41,178
♪ Spread water ♪
873
00:43:41,213 --> 00:43:45,248
♪ Lead me straight to you ♪
874
00:43:45,283 --> 00:43:48,416
♪ I've gone past ♪
875
00:43:48,451 --> 00:43:51,386
♪ Believing ♪
876
00:43:51,421 --> 00:43:56,666
♪ This is the only thing
I have that's left to do ♪
877
00:43:56,701 --> 00:44:02,133
♪
878
00:44:02,168 --> 00:44:03,838
Is that the book
you and Dad read?
879
00:44:03,873 --> 00:44:05,708
"I love you through and through.
880
00:44:05,743 --> 00:44:08,337
- I love your top side."
- "I love your top side."
881
00:44:08,372 --> 00:44:10,240
"And your bottom side."
882
00:44:10,275 --> 00:44:12,913
"And my... and...
the bottom side."
883
00:44:14,752 --> 00:44:16,147
"And"... what?
884
00:44:16,182 --> 00:44:19,722
"Your silly side."
885
00:44:19,757 --> 00:44:21,691
"Your mad side."
886
00:44:24,058 --> 00:44:26,388
- "I love your fingers."
- "Your fingers."
887
00:44:26,423 --> 00:44:29,424
- "And toes."
- "And toes."
888
00:44:29,459 --> 00:44:31,173
"I love you through and
through, yesterday, today,
889
00:44:31,197 --> 00:44:34,330
- and tomorrow, too."
- "Tomorrow, too."
890
00:44:34,365 --> 00:44:36,035
You got it.
891
00:44:44,441 --> 00:44:46,243
Yeah.
892
00:45:04,197 --> 00:45:05,834
Ah, shit.
893
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:11,334
Wiley and I went up to Mansfield
to go see Powers's family,
894
00:45:11,369 --> 00:45:13,006
and see his grave,
and see the truck
895
00:45:13,041 --> 00:45:15,437
that their parents finished
that Powers bought,
896
00:45:15,472 --> 00:45:18,110
and had every intention
of making into
897
00:45:18,145 --> 00:45:20,244
this souped-up
pick-'em-up truck.
898
00:45:22,413 --> 00:45:25,755
- So, this is his book.
- Oh, yeah.
899
00:45:25,790 --> 00:45:27,922
And we just put it on the car,
900
00:45:27,957 --> 00:45:29,132
and we just let
everybody look at it,
901
00:45:29,156 --> 00:45:31,222
but it's got the
Marine insignia.
902
00:45:31,257 --> 00:45:33,521
- Yeah, I saw that.
- Those are his dog tags,
903
00:45:33,556 --> 00:45:36,095
and he goes everywhere with us.
904
00:45:42,268 --> 00:45:44,334
Oh, man.
905
00:45:44,369 --> 00:45:46,105
This is him working
on this truck.
906
00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:47,876
When he was 15.
907
00:45:49,374 --> 00:45:51,044
- Oh, man.
- And then, this was
908
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:53,409
my favorite picture of
him working on the truck.
909
00:45:55,116 --> 00:45:56,280
Mike's choking him out.
910
00:45:56,315 --> 00:45:58,216
- Right.
- Fitting.
911
00:45:58,251 --> 00:45:59,987
That's fitting.
912
00:46:00,022 --> 00:46:02,319
So, we put this on the seat,
and we put it underneath,
913
00:46:02,354 --> 00:46:04,387
and we just share
it with everybody.
914
00:46:04,422 --> 00:46:08,391
♪
915
00:46:08,426 --> 00:46:11,229
From the time we were
kids, like, little kids,
916
00:46:11,264 --> 00:46:13,539
he was gonna be a Marine, like,
he had a cot in the living room
917
00:46:13,563 --> 00:46:15,266
and he was like...
It was so funny,
918
00:46:15,301 --> 00:46:17,015
'cause he's like, "This
is where I gotta sleep,
919
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:18,841
'cause this is where
I gotta get practice."
920
00:46:18,876 --> 00:46:26,876
♪
921
00:46:45,298 --> 00:46:48,134
Caleb was about to come home
two weeks before he was killed.
922
00:46:48,169 --> 00:46:50,169
Rick, he had like
six more months.
923
00:46:50,204 --> 00:46:52,105
It's like your whole past
and your whole future
924
00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:53,843
all at once, like,
925
00:46:53,878 --> 00:46:55,944
when you have two
people that you lost
926
00:46:55,979 --> 00:46:58,045
that you love more than
anything in the world,
927
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,146
like, your two most
favorite people
928
00:47:00,181 --> 00:47:02,280
in the whole entire
world, when you lose them,
929
00:47:02,315 --> 00:47:04,920
I just, like,
collapsed on the floor.
930
00:47:04,955 --> 00:47:07,318
Couldn't even survive.
931
00:47:07,353 --> 00:47:09,188
It was terrible.
932
00:47:09,223 --> 00:47:17,223
♪
933
00:47:40,958 --> 00:47:42,452
What is this?
934
00:47:56,534 --> 00:47:58,435
We'll never forget that day.
935
00:47:58,470 --> 00:48:00,569
Nah, man, not ever.
936
00:48:10,350 --> 00:48:12,922
- That was a tough week for us.
- Yeah.
937
00:48:24,034 --> 00:48:26,463
We came up
938
00:48:26,498 --> 00:48:28,333
to relieve these guys,
939
00:48:28,368 --> 00:48:30,137
'cause it just happened.
940
00:48:30,172 --> 00:48:33,074
We got the... Got
the medivac call,
941
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:35,010
and, uh,
942
00:48:35,045 --> 00:48:37,210
it said like, "Urgent surgical."
943
00:48:37,245 --> 00:48:39,080
I'm like, "Shit,
somebody's fucking hurt."
944
00:48:39,115 --> 00:48:40,543
- Mhm.
- So, when we roll in,
945
00:48:40,578 --> 00:48:43,546
and, uh, we got there,
946
00:48:43,581 --> 00:48:47,319
there was... there was
confusion on our end,
947
00:48:47,354 --> 00:48:49,486
and, uh, Robinson had come down,
948
00:48:49,521 --> 00:48:51,488
and he was all a mess,
949
00:48:51,523 --> 00:48:55,261
and then immediately
you knew who it was,
950
00:48:55,296 --> 00:48:58,066
and I didn't realize...
951
00:48:58,101 --> 00:49:01,036
I didn't even realize
Caleb was dead yet.
952
00:49:01,071 --> 00:49:02,598
And then...
953
00:49:04,602 --> 00:49:06,184
Well, Ammons came up
to me and was like,
954
00:49:06,208 --> 00:49:08,076
"Hey, man, we gotta
go to the top,
955
00:49:08,111 --> 00:49:11,541
we gotta, we gotta
do some cleanup."
956
00:49:11,576 --> 00:49:14,445
And that's when it... and
then, I had to go up, and...
957
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,381
Yeah.
958
00:49:16,416 --> 00:49:19,219
- There was a lot of blood.
- I bet.
959
00:49:23,390 --> 00:49:27,623
We just scooped it up the
best you could, and...
960
00:49:27,658 --> 00:49:28,624
And then you had
to fuckin' nut up
961
00:49:28,659 --> 00:49:29,736
- and sit there...
- Then I had to fuckin' sit
962
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,407
- in that goddamn seat.
- Nut up and sit where he was
963
00:49:31,431 --> 00:49:33,167
fuckin' sitting.
964
00:49:33,202 --> 00:49:37,039
I was sittin' there 20 minutes
prior to him sittin' there.
965
00:49:42,739 --> 00:49:44,288
And then we got blown
up on a building
966
00:49:44,312 --> 00:49:46,246
- the next day!
- The next day.
967
00:49:46,281 --> 00:49:47,347
Yeah.
968
00:49:47,382 --> 00:49:50,514
The whole damn thing almost
came down on top of us.
969
00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:52,252
♪
970
00:49:52,287 --> 00:49:54,485
- That corner specifically...
- Yeah, that corner.
971
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,223
Was lucky it didn't
crumble off there.
972
00:49:56,258 --> 00:49:57,157
It was just the one,
973
00:49:57,193 --> 00:50:00,656
it was just the one
stanchion that held.
974
00:50:00,691 --> 00:50:03,197
There was no floor
underneath us.
975
00:50:03,232 --> 00:50:05,265
No.
976
00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:06,695
Yeah, just that
one corner piece.
977
00:50:06,730 --> 00:50:09,566
Yeah, that was it, that was it.
978
00:50:09,601 --> 00:50:13,405
♪
979
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,079
- I think about him a lot.
- Yeah.
980
00:50:17,114 --> 00:50:19,147
I talk about him often.
981
00:50:19,182 --> 00:50:20,742
Oh, every day.
982
00:50:20,777 --> 00:50:22,744
Anybody poke about the
bracelet or the t-shirt,
983
00:50:22,779 --> 00:50:24,614
any chance I get.
984
00:50:24,649 --> 00:50:29,157
♪
985
00:50:29,192 --> 00:50:31,588
Powers had just relieved me
986
00:50:31,623 --> 00:50:33,557
in the same seat
I was sitting in.
987
00:50:33,592 --> 00:50:36,626
You heard the crack or whatever,
988
00:50:36,661 --> 00:50:38,232
so we all came out
the elevator shaft,
989
00:50:38,267 --> 00:50:41,697
and I don't know, I just
remember Powers with his,
990
00:50:41,732 --> 00:50:43,270
his head kicked
back on his chair,
991
00:50:43,305 --> 00:50:47,373
and there was, I don't know,
992
00:50:47,408 --> 00:50:48,715
there wasn't just
blood, it was like
993
00:50:48,739 --> 00:50:49,705
fuckin' brain matter
994
00:50:49,740 --> 00:50:52,279
that was pourin' out
of his head and shit.
995
00:50:52,314 --> 00:50:54,149
And I just remember,
I don't know,
996
00:50:54,184 --> 00:50:59,253
just how lifeless he
was, and limp and shit.
997
00:50:59,288 --> 00:51:00,650
We're all kinda
screamin' at Doc,
998
00:51:00,685 --> 00:51:02,454
but what can we do
to help you and shit?
999
00:51:02,489 --> 00:51:06,854
It's like, nothing,
he's gone, you know.
1000
00:51:06,889 --> 00:51:09,197
It took a moment before,
1001
00:51:09,232 --> 00:51:11,661
you know, it really, it
really hit us and shit
1002
00:51:11,696 --> 00:51:13,399
that he was gone.
1003
00:51:13,434 --> 00:51:21,434
♪
1004
00:51:21,805 --> 00:51:24,245
So you gotta understand a
sniper is a debilitating
1005
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,774
and demoralizing thing.
1006
00:51:25,809 --> 00:51:26,742
You don't know where they are,
1007
00:51:26,777 --> 00:51:29,184
and you don't know if
they're coming back.
1008
00:51:29,219 --> 00:51:30,416
We always wondered,
1009
00:51:30,451 --> 00:51:32,418
"Is this guy staring
down a fucking scope?
1010
00:51:32,453 --> 00:51:34,453
Is he lookin' through
glass at me right now?
1011
00:51:34,488 --> 00:51:36,257
Is this my moment?"
1012
00:51:36,292 --> 00:51:38,226
♪
1013
00:51:38,261 --> 00:51:40,888
That was tough,
and Chadwick and I
1014
00:51:40,923 --> 00:51:43,891
looked at each other and said,
"We gotta sit at this post.
1015
00:51:43,926 --> 00:51:46,630
We gotta show our guys that,
yeah, this just happened,
1016
00:51:46,665 --> 00:51:48,335
but fuck it."
1017
00:51:48,370 --> 00:51:51,470
For the next two hours,
Chadwick and I sat there,
1018
00:51:51,505 --> 00:51:54,275
and we talked about everything,
1019
00:51:54,310 --> 00:51:56,343
and we talked a mile a minute.
1020
00:51:56,378 --> 00:51:58,488
The missed opportunities with
girls, the cars we wanted,
1021
00:51:58,512 --> 00:52:00,776
the Appalachian Trail
hike we wanted to do.
1022
00:52:00,811 --> 00:52:03,878
We squashed a lot of
differences right there because,
1023
00:52:03,913 --> 00:52:06,881
dude, we were dead.
1024
00:52:06,916 --> 00:52:09,521
I think it gave us both a
lot of respect for each other
1025
00:52:09,556 --> 00:52:13,426
'cause we both volunteered
to sit in that spot.
1026
00:52:13,461 --> 00:52:16,198
That was, that was really,
1027
00:52:16,233 --> 00:52:19,828
really, really hard
to sit in that spot.
1028
00:52:19,863 --> 00:52:21,731
Obviously, it's
gonna fuck with you.
1029
00:52:21,766 --> 00:52:23,931
♪
1030
00:52:23,966 --> 00:52:26,472
You know that
you're already dead.
1031
00:52:26,507 --> 00:52:28,276
You know you're already dead.
1032
00:52:28,311 --> 00:52:30,344
And you accept that,
1033
00:52:30,379 --> 00:52:33,611
and then it actually becomes
easier to do your job
1034
00:52:33,646 --> 00:52:36,350
because at the end
of it, you're dead.
1035
00:52:36,385 --> 00:52:39,848
You're not livin' through this,
you're not makin' this out.
1036
00:52:39,883 --> 00:52:41,322
The day after Caleb was killed,
1037
00:52:41,357 --> 00:52:43,258
that same seven-story building
1038
00:52:43,293 --> 00:52:45,953
had the floor below it just
blown out from under 'em.
1039
00:52:45,988 --> 00:52:47,658
First thing we did
was call it in,
1040
00:52:47,693 --> 00:52:49,957
and start tryin' to get in
touch with the guys from 3rd.
1041
00:52:49,992 --> 00:52:52,663
And fortunately
everybody was alive.
1042
00:52:52,698 --> 00:52:54,907
And the only thing I do remember
sayin' on the radio was like,
1043
00:52:54,931 --> 00:52:57,470
"Hey, man, get the fuck
outta the building,
1044
00:52:57,505 --> 00:52:59,406
it's goin' down."
1045
00:52:59,441 --> 00:53:02,904
Remember standing over on the
roof and just lookin' down,
1046
00:53:02,939 --> 00:53:04,807
and I just came up.
1047
00:53:04,842 --> 00:53:08,250
It wasn't the same old
Jon that I remember
1048
00:53:08,285 --> 00:53:09,581
a few hours ago.
1049
00:53:09,616 --> 00:53:11,616
The look in his eyes was
completely different.
1050
00:53:15,292 --> 00:53:18,953
We can think of PTSD a
an unprocessed trauma,
1051
00:53:18,988 --> 00:53:22,660
where the mind and the body
can't seem to work through it,
1052
00:53:22,695 --> 00:53:25,828
and it gets into
this pattern that
1053
00:53:25,863 --> 00:53:28,303
keeps it from being
able to be processed,
1054
00:53:28,338 --> 00:53:30,866
but it's also a completely
normal response,
1055
00:53:30,901 --> 00:53:33,935
given what the person
has been through.
1056
00:53:33,970 --> 00:53:36,278
So in a combat situation,
1057
00:53:36,313 --> 00:53:38,973
there's not necessarily
only one trauma,
1058
00:53:39,008 --> 00:53:42,449
there are multiple
traumas that happen.
1059
00:53:42,484 --> 00:53:46,816
And how can you even think
of starting to process
1060
00:53:46,851 --> 00:53:50,457
when you're in that
type of environment?
1061
00:53:50,492 --> 00:53:52,723
You've been raised by your
parents and your teachers
1062
00:53:52,758 --> 00:53:54,527
to do the right thing,
1063
00:53:54,562 --> 00:53:56,265
and then you go off to war,
1064
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:59,697
and you're gonna be asked
to do unspeakable things
1065
00:53:59,732 --> 00:54:02,667
that aren't exactly in
the code of ethics or law
1066
00:54:02,702 --> 00:54:05,835
'cause it's a different
ballgame at that point.
1067
00:54:05,870 --> 00:54:07,771
But then, you quickly
have to go back,
1068
00:54:07,806 --> 00:54:10,807
and they want you to act normal.
1069
00:54:10,842 --> 00:54:13,381
Well, it just doesn't
happen that way.
1070
00:54:13,416 --> 00:54:16,978
The new normal is not
a rinse, wash, repeat,
1071
00:54:17,013 --> 00:54:18,749
and do it again, you know?
1072
00:54:18,784 --> 00:54:22,357
It's a... there's a
decompression that has to happen.
1073
00:54:22,392 --> 00:54:26,295
So, to think that you just
went over and did your job,
1074
00:54:26,330 --> 00:54:30,662
that's pretty ignorant.
1075
00:54:30,697 --> 00:54:32,763
Just bein' outta the
corps itself, it's,
1076
00:54:32,798 --> 00:54:33,962
it's like a drag.
1077
00:54:33,997 --> 00:54:35,469
You kinda feel lost,
1078
00:54:35,504 --> 00:54:37,768
like you really don't
know what to do,
1079
00:54:37,803 --> 00:54:39,473
where to go anymore.
1080
00:54:39,508 --> 00:54:42,608
The camaraderie of the
corps is no longer there.
1081
00:54:42,643 --> 00:54:43,818
You're not even
close to your family
1082
00:54:43,842 --> 00:54:46,744
like you are to the
guys you served with.
1083
00:54:46,779 --> 00:54:47,888
You know, there's
still a distance
1084
00:54:47,912 --> 00:54:49,681
between you and your family,
1085
00:54:49,716 --> 00:54:50,960
and most people
don't understand it.
1086
00:54:50,984 --> 00:54:54,488
Can't really explain it unless
you experience it yourself,
1087
00:54:54,523 --> 00:54:57,689
you know, that
kind of closeness.
1088
00:54:57,724 --> 00:54:59,757
I just never get any sleep.
1089
00:54:59,792 --> 00:55:01,627
It's just 'cause
my mind's running,
1090
00:55:01,662 --> 00:55:05,433
and I can't shut it off.
1091
00:55:05,468 --> 00:55:07,633
I also have panic attacks
1092
00:55:07,668 --> 00:55:10,768
or anxiety attacks
when I fall asleep.
1093
00:55:10,803 --> 00:55:13,408
I feel this buzzing in my head,
1094
00:55:13,443 --> 00:55:16,543
and it feels like you're
about ready to die,
1095
00:55:16,578 --> 00:55:19,106
and it's like... what it does is
1096
00:55:19,141 --> 00:55:20,778
you're goin' to sleep,
1097
00:55:20,813 --> 00:55:23,913
and then you're triggerin'
back up to awake.
1098
00:55:23,948 --> 00:55:26,982
'Cause I've seen dark figures
standin' in the corner,
1099
00:55:27,017 --> 00:55:29,457
which is really crazy.
1100
00:55:29,492 --> 00:55:31,921
♪
1101
00:55:31,956 --> 00:55:33,791
You just have these
wicked dreams.
1102
00:55:33,826 --> 00:55:35,529
I remember just instead
of dreaming about
1103
00:55:35,564 --> 00:55:37,531
some little Iraqi
kid getting killed,
1104
00:55:37,566 --> 00:55:39,830
it's my son, or it's like
1105
00:55:39,865 --> 00:55:41,436
I'm in a fire-fight,
1106
00:55:41,471 --> 00:55:43,009
and I'm just shooting
members of my family.
1107
00:55:43,033 --> 00:55:46,474
Or, I'm in a fire-fight
and members of my family
1108
00:55:46,509 --> 00:55:48,938
are dead all around me,
and I can't do anything.
1109
00:55:48,973 --> 00:55:52,040
Or, I'm in a minivan driving
with my wife and kids,
1110
00:55:52,075 --> 00:55:54,515
and then it hits an IED.
1111
00:55:54,550 --> 00:55:57,782
Every day I was
drinking like a 24-pack
1112
00:55:57,817 --> 00:56:00,389
just so I can sleep.
1113
00:56:00,424 --> 00:56:03,084
You know, it was just wakin'
up, beer cans everywhere.
1114
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:06,021
Okay, you know,
hungover, drunk still.
1115
00:56:06,056 --> 00:56:07,792
You're just there
1116
00:56:07,827 --> 00:56:09,794
sitting alone
1117
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:12,401
not even being able
to talk to anybody.
1118
00:56:12,436 --> 00:56:14,128
When people ask those
stupid questions,
1119
00:56:14,163 --> 00:56:15,800
"How many people did you kill?
1120
00:56:15,835 --> 00:56:17,472
Where you ever scared?"
1121
00:56:17,507 --> 00:56:19,144
Yeah, at first, I didn't
really know how to freakin'
1122
00:56:19,168 --> 00:56:20,739
answer that kind
of stuff, you know.
1123
00:56:20,774 --> 00:56:22,136
It was kinda like,
1124
00:56:22,171 --> 00:56:24,006
"How dare you
fuckin' ask me that?"
1125
00:56:24,041 --> 00:56:25,524
That's none of your
fuckin' business.
1126
00:56:25,548 --> 00:56:28,549
Why would you say
something like that to me?
1127
00:56:28,584 --> 00:56:29,924
Have you ever been raped,
do you wanna fuckin'
1128
00:56:29,948 --> 00:56:32,179
relive that experience
with me right now too?
1129
00:56:32,214 --> 00:56:34,687
Well, let's fuckin' talk
about the most fucked up thing
1130
00:56:34,722 --> 00:56:36,062
you ever fuckin'
did in your life.
1131
00:56:36,086 --> 00:56:37,888
Your Uncle fuckin' Tom,
your weird Uncle Tom
1132
00:56:37,923 --> 00:56:40,154
"ever touch you when
you were a kid?"
1133
00:56:40,189 --> 00:56:43,025
You're asking questions about
the most fucked up thing
1134
00:56:43,060 --> 00:56:45,566
that has ever happened
in this person's life.
1135
00:56:45,601 --> 00:56:47,667
♪
1136
00:56:47,702 --> 00:56:48,534
You know, for most people,
1137
00:56:48,570 --> 00:56:51,099
they look at PTSD
and they see it as
1138
00:56:51,134 --> 00:56:53,574
like some sort of
frailty, weakness.
1139
00:56:53,609 --> 00:56:56,137
And quite frankly, I thought of
it like that too for some point.
1140
00:56:56,172 --> 00:56:58,447
And I'm just like,
1141
00:56:58,482 --> 00:56:59,659
"There's something
wrong with me,
1142
00:56:59,683 --> 00:57:03,111
and I need to get over this
shit because it's been years.
1143
00:57:03,146 --> 00:57:06,719
So, get the fuck over it."
1144
00:57:06,754 --> 00:57:08,721
But it's different,
PTSD isn't that.
1145
00:57:08,756 --> 00:57:10,690
It's a survival
mechanism, it's what...
1146
00:57:10,725 --> 00:57:14,023
The situations that
we were in over there,
1147
00:57:14,058 --> 00:57:16,223
demanded us to behave
in a different way.
1148
00:57:16,258 --> 00:57:18,962
Demanded us to...
1149
00:57:18,997 --> 00:57:22,900
♪
1150
00:57:22,935 --> 00:57:25,232
To be what we are now.
1151
00:57:25,267 --> 00:57:32,613
♪
1152
00:57:32,648 --> 00:57:34,043
People would say,
1153
00:57:34,078 --> 00:57:35,715
"That's the guy you're dating?
1154
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:37,178
That guy?"
1155
00:57:37,213 --> 00:57:39,653
Because now I look back
on it, and I'm like,
1156
00:57:39,688 --> 00:57:41,083
"You've got...
1157
00:57:41,118 --> 00:57:43,184
What were you missing,"
you know what I mean?
1158
00:57:43,219 --> 00:57:47,023
I felt like I should
have seen something.
1159
00:57:47,058 --> 00:57:48,255
When we got together,
1160
00:57:48,290 --> 00:57:50,730
three months into
it, he was like,
1161
00:57:50,765 --> 00:57:52,193
"We're gonna get married,
1162
00:57:52,228 --> 00:57:53,997
we're gonna have a baby."
1163
00:57:54,032 --> 00:57:56,263
He knew exactly what
I wanted to hear.
1164
00:57:56,298 --> 00:57:58,771
And then, I got pregnant,
1165
00:57:58,806 --> 00:58:01,939
and I called him so
excited, and he was like,
1166
00:58:01,974 --> 00:58:04,711
he was hungover,
and he's like, I,
1167
00:58:04,746 --> 00:58:06,944
I'll never forget it, I
mean, I'll never forget that.
1168
00:58:06,979 --> 00:58:09,243
He just was not,
1169
00:58:09,278 --> 00:58:11,718
not thrilled with the idea.
1170
00:58:11,753 --> 00:58:14,721
After that,
1171
00:58:14,756 --> 00:58:16,690
he flipped a switch
1172
00:58:16,725 --> 00:58:20,892
from this guy who was
ready to start a family,
1173
00:58:20,927 --> 00:58:26,161
and so happy and excited to.
1174
00:58:26,196 --> 00:58:30,902
"This is the worst thing that
could have ever happened to me."
1175
00:58:33,335 --> 00:58:35,709
♪
1176
00:58:35,744 --> 00:58:38,173
All of this crap
started surfacing about
1177
00:58:38,208 --> 00:58:40,681
it not being his, and...
1178
00:58:51,287 --> 00:58:55,157
He started getting
super possessive of me,
1179
00:58:55,192 --> 00:58:56,994
going through my things,
1180
00:58:57,029 --> 00:58:59,062
and going through my
laptop and my emails,
1181
00:58:59,097 --> 00:59:02,703
and my text messages,
and everything.
1182
00:59:02,738 --> 00:59:04,177
As soon as I would
put my phone down,
1183
00:59:04,201 --> 00:59:05,981
if I was in the bathroom,
he was picking it up
1184
00:59:06,005 --> 00:59:07,301
and looking at it.
1185
00:59:07,336 --> 00:59:09,578
To his friends, to his family,
1186
00:59:09,613 --> 00:59:12,339
I was this whore who
slept with everybody,
1187
00:59:12,374 --> 00:59:15,111
who "This isn't my
baby, she's crazy.
1188
00:59:15,146 --> 00:59:16,717
She's making this shit up.
1189
00:59:16,752 --> 00:59:19,148
We never tried to have a baby."
1190
00:59:19,183 --> 00:59:21,348
I was instantly the bad guy.
1191
00:59:21,383 --> 00:59:25,154
And so he would say to me,
"Don't you know who I am?"
1192
00:59:25,189 --> 00:59:27,288
Don't you know that
I am an interrogator
1193
00:59:27,323 --> 00:59:28,356
for this country?
1194
00:59:28,391 --> 00:59:31,864
Don't you know that I
can figure out anything
1195
00:59:31,899 --> 00:59:33,195
that I wanna figure out,
1196
00:59:33,230 --> 00:59:36,000
and I can make you say
whatever I want you to say?
1197
00:59:36,035 --> 00:59:38,970
"I can make you feel
however I want you to feel."
1198
00:59:39,005 --> 00:59:42,875
That's the kind of stuff
he would say to me.
1199
00:59:42,910 --> 00:59:44,613
And that's when I was like,
1200
00:59:44,648 --> 00:59:46,241
"This is bad.
1201
00:59:46,276 --> 00:59:49,145
This is a lot worse
than I thought it was."
1202
00:59:49,180 --> 00:59:52,951
It was like he was still in
it, like he was still there.
1203
00:59:52,986 --> 00:59:54,755
He either did something
or said something
1204
00:59:54,790 --> 00:59:57,318
that broke my heart every day.
1205
00:59:57,353 --> 01:00:00,090
And the day that he showed
up to break up with me
1206
01:00:00,125 --> 01:00:02,125
at my parents' house
on their porch,
1207
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,930
he brought all of my stuff
1208
01:00:04,965 --> 01:00:07,130
in trash bags
1209
01:00:07,165 --> 01:00:09,297
and left it in my driveway.
1210
01:00:09,332 --> 01:00:11,299
♪
1211
01:00:11,334 --> 01:00:14,368
- Did you love Kristin?
- Yeah.
1212
01:00:14,403 --> 01:00:17,206
- Do you still love her?
- Yeah.
1213
01:00:17,241 --> 01:00:19,043
I'll always love her.
1214
01:00:19,078 --> 01:00:21,078
♪
1215
01:00:21,113 --> 01:00:23,080
You know, Cole was a twinkle
1216
01:00:23,115 --> 01:00:26,919
in our eyes and her belly.
1217
01:00:26,954 --> 01:00:28,954
I couldn't handle it,
1218
01:00:28,989 --> 01:00:32,991
and that's when,
1219
01:00:33,026 --> 01:00:35,994
that's when I started
drinkin' hard,
1220
01:00:36,029 --> 01:00:39,195
and it just kept goin'
hard for a long time.
1221
01:00:39,230 --> 01:00:42,396
I was drunk the day he was born.
1222
01:00:42,431 --> 01:00:45,806
I was shitfaced the
day he was born.
1223
01:00:45,841 --> 01:00:47,841
♪
1224
01:00:47,876 --> 01:00:51,141
I remember when I
went into labor.
1225
01:00:51,176 --> 01:00:52,912
I was at the hospital,
1226
01:00:52,947 --> 01:00:54,375
and one of our
mutual friends came
1227
01:00:54,410 --> 01:00:58,313
to be with me 'cause
I didn't have anyone.
1228
01:00:58,348 --> 01:01:00,920
From her, he found out
that I had the baby.
1229
01:01:00,955 --> 01:01:03,923
And he called me,
and he was drunk,
1230
01:01:03,958 --> 01:01:05,452
and he cried,
1231
01:01:05,487 --> 01:01:08,697
and said, "I knew this
whole time that he was mine.
1232
01:01:08,732 --> 01:01:11,227
I don't know why I let
other people influence me.
1233
01:01:11,262 --> 01:01:12,800
I don't know why
1234
01:01:12,835 --> 01:01:14,934
I didn't believe you."
1235
01:01:14,969 --> 01:01:16,705
And I said, "Then, come up here.
1236
01:01:16,740 --> 01:01:19,037
Come be with me, like what?"
1237
01:01:19,072 --> 01:01:20,312
And he's like, "I just can't.
1238
01:01:20,337 --> 01:01:23,206
I can't."
1239
01:01:23,241 --> 01:01:24,073
Yeah, I wanted to be there,
1240
01:01:24,109 --> 01:01:27,111
but I didn't know
how to be there.
1241
01:01:27,146 --> 01:01:28,376
You know, maybe,
1242
01:01:28,411 --> 01:01:29,718
maybe we both didn't want
1243
01:01:29,753 --> 01:01:30,897
exactly as much as
we said we wanted,
1244
01:01:30,921 --> 01:01:34,987
but the bottom line is is
I didn't stick up for her,
1245
01:01:35,022 --> 01:01:36,384
and I didn't stick
up for my son,
1246
01:01:36,419 --> 01:01:38,353
I didn't stick up for any of it.
1247
01:01:38,388 --> 01:01:40,993
♪
1248
01:01:41,028 --> 01:01:44,293
That's a hard thing to get over.
1249
01:01:44,328 --> 01:01:46,999
That's a hard thing to
forgive yourself for.
1250
01:01:47,034 --> 01:01:55,034
♪
1251
01:02:00,047 --> 01:02:02,949
Years later, I was sittin'
in a car with my mom,
1252
01:02:02,984 --> 01:02:04,852
and I was just
workin' shitty jobs
1253
01:02:04,887 --> 01:02:06,187
'cause nobody would hire me.
1254
01:02:06,222 --> 01:02:10,253
I can remember just bein' pissed
off and screamin' in the car.
1255
01:02:10,288 --> 01:02:12,123
"I fuckin' hate my
military service!
1256
01:02:12,158 --> 01:02:14,092
I wish I'd never fuckin' joined!
1257
01:02:14,127 --> 01:02:15,489
I fuckin' hate the Marine Corps.
1258
01:02:15,524 --> 01:02:17,491
It fuckin' ruined me."
1259
01:02:17,526 --> 01:02:21,935
♪
1260
01:02:21,970 --> 01:02:23,904
I thought I was owed something.
1261
01:02:23,939 --> 01:02:25,873
I thought a lot of
people owed me something
1262
01:02:25,908 --> 01:02:28,040
for military service.
1263
01:02:28,075 --> 01:02:32,044
I thought you owed
me everything.
1264
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:35,509
♪
1265
01:02:35,544 --> 01:02:38,853
I was drinkin' every night,
and there's the first DUI.
1266
01:02:38,888 --> 01:02:42,054
And then, I got my second
one almost a year to the day
1267
01:02:42,089 --> 01:02:43,550
of the first one.
1268
01:02:43,585 --> 01:02:45,354
♪
1269
01:02:45,389 --> 01:02:49,490
The second one was clearly
me tellin' myself like,
1270
01:02:49,525 --> 01:02:51,327
"Hey, you don't need
to be here anymore."
1271
01:02:51,362 --> 01:02:53,263
You just keep fuckin' up.
1272
01:02:53,298 --> 01:02:54,869
You just keep hurting
1273
01:02:54,904 --> 01:02:56,563
yourself and others.
1274
01:02:56,598 --> 01:02:58,202
Why do you need to
do that anymore?
1275
01:02:58,237 --> 01:03:01,007
"Just fucking kill yourself."
1276
01:03:01,042 --> 01:03:02,580
After a while, I realized
I was doin' nothing
1277
01:03:02,604 --> 01:03:06,012
but isolating myself.
1278
01:03:06,047 --> 01:03:09,543
And that came to a
culmination after two DUls.
1279
01:03:09,578 --> 01:03:14,218
I tried to empty an
entire medicine cabinet
1280
01:03:14,253 --> 01:03:16,055
into my stomach.
1281
01:03:16,090 --> 01:03:18,002
And I've sat up at night
and put a gun in my mouth,
1282
01:03:18,026 --> 01:03:21,093
and begged for the strength
to pull the trigger
1283
01:03:21,128 --> 01:03:23,425
because I thought I was
a burden on my family,
1284
01:03:23,460 --> 01:03:26,065
thought I was never
gonna be a good father,
1285
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:28,034
thought I wasn't a good friend.
1286
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:36,069
♪
1287
01:03:36,473 --> 01:03:39,045
His descent into his depression,
1288
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,574
into coping mechanisms,
1289
01:03:40,609 --> 01:03:43,511
drinking, his failed
suicide attempt,
1290
01:03:43,546 --> 01:03:45,546
it all came as a shock to me.
1291
01:03:45,581 --> 01:03:49,154
We got on the phone, and
we talked for a while.
1292
01:03:49,189 --> 01:03:50,991
He caught me up to speed
1293
01:03:51,026 --> 01:03:55,061
on a few of the stories
from the deployment,
1294
01:03:55,096 --> 01:04:00,033
and then we talked about
what was goin' on with him.
1295
01:04:00,068 --> 01:04:02,134
If you're sittin' there
reading someone's narrative
1296
01:04:02,169 --> 01:04:04,268
of a patrol where
there's a casualty...
1297
01:04:04,303 --> 01:04:06,083
You know, I've been
reading these over and over
1298
01:04:06,107 --> 01:04:08,305
for months and years now.
1299
01:04:08,340 --> 01:04:10,978
Just insert the name and
it's a different patrol,
1300
01:04:11,013 --> 01:04:12,177
and it's a different KAA.
1301
01:04:12,212 --> 01:04:15,213
And I wanted him to
kinda flesh it out,
1302
01:04:15,248 --> 01:04:17,017
let me know what
I needed to know,
1303
01:04:17,052 --> 01:04:18,645
what he had gone through.
1304
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,087
And that summer of '15, I think,
1305
01:04:21,122 --> 01:04:26,158
I shot down over a long weekend
and surprised him at his house,
1306
01:04:26,193 --> 01:04:27,370
just kinda shook
him up a little bit,
1307
01:04:27,394 --> 01:04:30,393
let him know that there was
other guys out there in 2/4
1308
01:04:30,428 --> 01:04:31,933
that were concerned about him
1309
01:04:31,968 --> 01:04:34,166
and what was goin'
on with the unit.
1310
01:04:34,201 --> 01:04:37,598
♪
1311
01:04:37,633 --> 01:04:39,435
Then there's times
when you are isolated,
1312
01:04:39,470 --> 01:04:42,306
and you are in your own
head the whole time,
1313
01:04:42,341 --> 01:04:44,539
and it's... You
never stop wonderin'
1314
01:04:44,574 --> 01:04:46,090
if there's somethin' you
could have done better,
1315
01:04:46,114 --> 01:04:47,619
or coulda stopped
something from happenin',
1316
01:04:47,643 --> 01:04:50,314
but you can't think
like that, and it sucks.
1317
01:04:50,349 --> 01:04:54,516
♪
1318
01:04:54,551 --> 01:04:57,992
I guess it's just tough 'cause
1319
01:04:58,027 --> 01:05:03,129
I've been walkin' for
so goddamn long, but...
1320
01:05:03,164 --> 01:05:07,936
I get to see some of the most
beautiful things on the planet,
1321
01:05:07,971 --> 01:05:11,632
and all I think about is like,
1322
01:05:11,667 --> 01:05:15,636
"My brothers never
get to see this."
1323
01:05:15,671 --> 01:05:20,080
It's fuckin' tough out here,
1324
01:05:20,115 --> 01:05:21,226
but I wouldn't change
it for the world.
1325
01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:27,615
I just wish, I just wish
that I died instead of them.
1326
01:05:27,650 --> 01:05:29,595
I mean, that's the only thing
that really keeps me goin'
1327
01:05:29,619 --> 01:05:32,092
is knowin' that...
1328
01:05:32,127 --> 01:05:33,138
I don't know what I believe in.
1329
01:05:33,162 --> 01:05:35,557
I don't know if I
believe in God, I don't,
1330
01:05:35,592 --> 01:05:37,427
I don't know.
1331
01:05:37,462 --> 01:05:39,297
But I do know that
if they were energy,
1332
01:05:39,332 --> 01:05:41,398
and they could see me,
1333
01:05:41,433 --> 01:05:43,400
I'd hope they'd be proud of me.
1334
01:05:43,435 --> 01:05:45,534
♪
1335
01:05:45,569 --> 01:05:49,142
Guess we'll find out when
Valhalla opens its gates,
1336
01:05:49,177 --> 01:05:52,178
either I'm greeted with a
beer or an ass-whoopin'.
1337
01:05:52,213 --> 01:05:54,378
I'll take either.
1338
01:05:56,613 --> 01:06:04,613
♪
1339
01:06:08,460 --> 01:06:16,460
♪
1340
01:06:20,241 --> 01:06:28,214
♪ When the walls
come crashing down ♪
1341
01:06:28,249 --> 01:06:34,682
♪ When the walls
come crashing down
1342
01:06:34,717 --> 01:06:38,653
we will own our past ♪
1343
01:06:38,688 --> 01:06:42,525
♪
1344
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:47,365
♪ And we will own our future ♪
1345
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,500
♪
1346
01:06:50,535 --> 01:06:53,074
♪ And we will own our past ♪
1347
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:58,607
♪ When the walls
come crashing down
1348
01:06:58,642 --> 01:07:02,281
we will own our future ♪
1349
01:07:02,316 --> 01:07:04,723
A Vietnam vet just jerked his
car over to the side of the road
1350
01:07:04,747 --> 01:07:06,417
and came to a halt.
1351
01:07:06,452 --> 01:07:08,221
Told him what I was doin'.
1352
01:07:08,256 --> 01:07:12,093
And then, he found
me the next day
1353
01:07:12,128 --> 01:07:16,163
and handed me his father's
Eagle, Globe, and Anchor
1354
01:07:16,198 --> 01:07:18,264
he earned from boot camp
1355
01:07:18,299 --> 01:07:20,398
during World War II.
1356
01:07:20,433 --> 01:07:23,698
And I was just completely
floored by that.
1357
01:07:23,733 --> 01:07:26,305
I kept it, it's wrapped
into my stick now,
1358
01:07:26,340 --> 01:07:28,340
so it's not goin' anywhere.
1359
01:07:28,375 --> 01:07:29,408
It'll stay right there.
1360
01:07:29,443 --> 01:07:32,773
There was a lady back
there that came up to me.
1361
01:07:32,808 --> 01:07:34,852
She was not happy that I was
wearin' a Marine Corps flag
1362
01:07:34,876 --> 01:07:37,217
at all.
1363
01:07:37,252 --> 01:07:39,483
Preceded to call me a baby
killer, and then she...
1364
01:07:39,518 --> 01:07:42,750
But I just kinda sat
there and took it, man.
1365
01:07:42,785 --> 01:07:44,356
I've kinda found that
1366
01:07:44,391 --> 01:07:47,260
the only way
1367
01:07:47,295 --> 01:07:50,626
I ever deal with it anymore is
I just agree with everybody.
1368
01:07:50,661 --> 01:07:53,134
And just be like, "Yeah,
man, I did it all the time."
1369
01:07:53,169 --> 01:07:54,608
That's all the government
ever told me to do
1370
01:07:54,632 --> 01:07:55,398
was just kill the children,
1371
01:07:55,433 --> 01:07:57,534
so that that way
I didn't have to
1372
01:07:57,569 --> 01:07:58,569
"fight guys later on."
1373
01:07:58,603 --> 01:07:59,800
Hey, how are ya?
1374
01:07:59,835 --> 01:08:02,737
I know it sounds
like I'm peein'.
1375
01:08:02,772 --> 01:08:04,211
No, it doesn't!
1376
01:08:04,246 --> 01:08:06,609
That's crazy.
1377
01:08:06,644 --> 01:08:09,348
It's my shower today.
1378
01:08:09,383 --> 01:08:10,679
Nice end to a...
1379
01:08:10,714 --> 01:08:15,156
It's a really cool
little mountain spring.
1380
01:08:15,191 --> 01:08:16,619
So I showered.
1381
01:08:16,654 --> 01:08:18,357
I still stink.
1382
01:08:36,674 --> 01:08:38,674
Diane Layfield is the mother of
1383
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:40,412
Travis Layfield.
1384
01:08:40,447 --> 01:08:42,414
I didn't know Diane
before the walk.
1385
01:08:42,449 --> 01:08:45,582
First time I met her was at
the Marines' Memorial Club.
1386
01:08:45,617 --> 01:08:49,685
That was an
eye-opening experience.
1387
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:50,720
Cheers!
1388
01:08:50,755 --> 01:08:53,194
My daughter, and my
grandson, and I went down
1389
01:08:53,229 --> 01:08:56,263
to meet Travis' battalion
when they came home,
1390
01:08:56,298 --> 01:08:57,924
and that was probably
the second worst,
1391
01:08:57,959 --> 01:08:59,695
hardest thing I've
ever done in my life.
1392
01:08:59,730 --> 01:09:01,444
- Watching all of them...
- So you saw us come home?
1393
01:09:01,468 --> 01:09:03,369
I saw you all
walkin' up that hill.
1394
01:09:03,404 --> 01:09:05,602
Yeah, we walked up that
hill after the armory.
1395
01:09:05,637 --> 01:09:09,804
And I thought I was gonna die
because Travis wasn't with you.
1396
01:09:09,839 --> 01:09:11,674
Oh, no, there they are.
1397
01:09:11,709 --> 01:09:13,511
And Travie always hides from me.
1398
01:09:13,546 --> 01:09:15,942
There he is!
1399
01:09:20,388 --> 01:09:23,620
I always say one is too
many on this wall, but...
1400
01:09:23,655 --> 01:09:25,424
Unfortunately.
1401
01:09:28,627 --> 01:09:30,693
The guy that I was
tellin' you about,
1402
01:09:30,728 --> 01:09:32,332
Jeffrey Mehlman,
1403
01:09:32,367 --> 01:09:35,533
was actually holding
Sims when he died.
1404
01:09:35,568 --> 01:09:36,974
And I kept tellin'
him all these years,
1405
01:09:36,998 --> 01:09:38,734
'cause he's held
that inside of him.
1406
01:09:38,769 --> 01:09:40,483
I kept sayin', "You
need to talk to his mom,
1407
01:09:40,507 --> 01:09:41,935
"you need to tell her," I said,
1408
01:09:41,970 --> 01:09:44,410
"That's just one thing us
Gold Star parents want is
1409
01:09:44,445 --> 01:09:46,940
every piece of everything that
we can get about our kids,
1410
01:09:46,975 --> 01:09:50,680
any pictures, any stories,
anything, we want hear."
1411
01:09:50,715 --> 01:09:51,859
He's yet to do it, and I said,
1412
01:09:51,883 --> 01:09:53,826
"You're carrying that heavy
burden around with you,
1413
01:09:53,850 --> 01:09:56,455
and you've told me and
you wanna release it,"
1414
01:09:56,490 --> 01:09:58,919
but I said, "She's,
Margaret's a great lady.
1415
01:09:58,954 --> 01:10:02,494
And she'd be easy to
talk to, and she would be
1416
01:10:02,529 --> 01:10:04,364
so appreciative to hear this."
1417
01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:06,432
Some of the most healing
points on this journey
1418
01:10:06,467 --> 01:10:08,247
have been when I've
gotten to speak with guys
1419
01:10:08,271 --> 01:10:10,403
that... or, with
families of guys
1420
01:10:10,438 --> 01:10:13,769
that I've known
personally and known well.
1421
01:10:13,804 --> 01:10:17,410
Told them weird and stupid
stories, and just...
1422
01:10:17,445 --> 01:10:19,412
- But we laugh, we cry.
- God, we laugh, we cry.
1423
01:10:19,447 --> 01:10:20,820
We do it all, but
we do it together.
1424
01:10:20,844 --> 01:10:21,909
That's right.
1425
01:10:21,944 --> 01:10:23,977
That's what's important to know
1426
01:10:24,012 --> 01:10:27,255
just how things were there.
1427
01:10:27,290 --> 01:10:28,501
It's another thing all together,
1428
01:10:28,525 --> 01:10:32,656
when you're lookin' at these
guys right in the face.
1429
01:10:32,691 --> 01:10:35,758
I was QRF for Collins when
he was killed by a sniper,
1430
01:10:35,793 --> 01:10:39,531
we thought he was alive until
we got to Junction City.
1431
01:10:39,566 --> 01:10:41,643
And then, when they pulled him
off the back of the Humvee,
1432
01:10:41,667 --> 01:10:44,569
his legs were,
1433
01:10:44,604 --> 01:10:47,033
- his legs just fell.
- Oh.
1434
01:10:47,068 --> 01:10:49,739
And I knew he wasn't
alive anymore.
1435
01:10:49,774 --> 01:10:52,478
Oh, man.
1436
01:10:52,513 --> 01:10:54,909
Holy shit, Mom!
1437
01:10:54,944 --> 01:10:56,779
I love you baby, I'm sorry.
1438
01:11:08,463 --> 01:11:11,398
I'm so sorry!
1439
01:11:28,417 --> 01:11:29,548
It was just such love.
1440
01:11:29,583 --> 01:11:32,012
It was like he had
another family.
1441
01:11:32,047 --> 01:11:34,586
It was like another mom, really.
1442
01:11:34,621 --> 01:11:36,819
And Roseanna Powers, I
know it was her brother,
1443
01:11:36,854 --> 01:11:37,953
but it's the same thing.
1444
01:11:37,989 --> 01:11:40,988
It's just family that
they didn't know they had.
1445
01:11:41,023 --> 01:11:43,892
It was just a really good
experience to have Jon here
1446
01:11:43,927 --> 01:11:47,060
just to ease the burden from us.
1447
01:11:47,095 --> 01:11:49,700
When Jon comes, he
caries the grief too,
1448
01:11:49,735 --> 01:11:52,835
but it's like I'm
not the only one.
1449
01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:54,606
I can share it with him.
1450
01:11:54,641 --> 01:11:56,003
That sounds bad, but like,
1451
01:11:56,038 --> 01:11:57,939
"Here, you have
some of that too."
1452
01:11:57,974 --> 01:12:00,678
♪
1453
01:12:00,713 --> 01:12:04,946
I hope that Jonathan's brought
some measure of relief,
1454
01:12:04,981 --> 01:12:09,115
comfort to those
families 'cause they,
1455
01:12:09,150 --> 01:12:10,622
they suffered mightily,
1456
01:12:10,657 --> 01:12:12,888
and they still do.
1457
01:12:12,923 --> 01:12:15,528
I'm always hurting inside,
I'm always crying inside.
1458
01:12:15,563 --> 01:12:17,893
I miss him immensely.
1459
01:12:17,928 --> 01:12:22,370
It's been tough, but I've
met so many wonderful people
1460
01:12:22,405 --> 01:12:23,998
along the way
through my journey,
1461
01:12:24,033 --> 01:12:27,034
and Travis has brought someone
or something into my life
1462
01:12:27,069 --> 01:12:28,937
almost every day.
1463
01:12:28,972 --> 01:12:30,444
I don't want them
to feel guilty.
1464
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:31,973
They have to live their lives,
1465
01:12:32,008 --> 01:12:34,778
and that's what Travis said
in his last letter, actually.
1466
01:12:34,813 --> 01:12:36,945
He said, "Mom, don't
sit in a corner crying"
1467
01:12:36,980 --> 01:12:38,122
"and worrying
about me," he says,
1468
01:12:38,146 --> 01:12:39,948
"Go life your life,
keep on dancin'."
1469
01:12:39,983 --> 01:12:41,752
He knows I love to
dance, and he said,
1470
01:12:41,787 --> 01:12:44,117
"Keep on dancin'
and keep on livin'."
1471
01:12:44,152 --> 01:12:46,053
And that's what we have to do.
1472
01:12:46,088 --> 01:12:54,088
♪
1473
01:13:16,624 --> 01:13:18,624
If Dustin came home,
1474
01:13:18,659 --> 01:13:21,957
he could be as screwed up
as any one of these guys.
1475
01:13:21,992 --> 01:13:24,729
Jon could be our son.
1476
01:13:24,764 --> 01:13:26,599
Literally, he could be our son.
1477
01:13:26,634 --> 01:13:28,194
We really didn't
know each other,
1478
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:32,605
but immediately, within
less than 40 minutes,
1479
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,608
we went to the darkest
place possible.
1480
01:13:35,643 --> 01:13:38,006
I don't even know
how it happened.
1481
01:13:38,041 --> 01:13:39,942
We went to Dustin's death.
1482
01:13:39,977 --> 01:13:42,846
I don't know how it
happened, but we just kind of
1483
01:13:42,881 --> 01:13:44,221
went off in some direction,
and all of a sudden,
1484
01:13:44,245 --> 01:13:45,849
bam, we were there.
1485
01:13:45,884 --> 01:13:48,082
We were surprised,
we were actually
1486
01:13:48,117 --> 01:13:50,590
talking like, "How
did, how did...
1487
01:13:50,625 --> 01:13:52,218
We didn't mean to
do that so quick."
1488
01:13:52,253 --> 01:13:53,659
At that moment, I was like,
1489
01:13:53,694 --> 01:13:55,595
"My family needs
to meet this guy
1490
01:13:55,630 --> 01:13:56,926
because he's gonna help them,"
1491
01:13:56,961 --> 01:13:58,191
especially Kerry
1492
01:13:58,226 --> 01:13:59,797
because Kerry, at the time,
1493
01:13:59,832 --> 01:14:01,898
was just a young teenager.
1494
01:14:01,933 --> 01:14:04,637
He didn't meet any
of these Marines.
1495
01:14:04,672 --> 01:14:06,540
So, I knew it was
gonna be healing.
1496
01:14:06,575 --> 01:14:08,476
All right, so Kerry joined me.
1497
01:14:08,511 --> 01:14:09,543
He's here.
1498
01:14:09,578 --> 01:14:10,644
How's it going'?
1499
01:14:10,679 --> 01:14:12,612
Everybody knows who Kerry
is, and if you don't,
1500
01:14:12,647 --> 01:14:14,581
Kerry is the Gold
Star youngest brother
1501
01:14:14,616 --> 01:14:18,145
of Dustin Schrage, who
we lost in Iraq in 2004.
1502
01:14:18,180 --> 01:14:19,046
He's picked up with me.
1503
01:14:19,081 --> 01:14:22,215
He's gonna do the
last 75-ish miles.
1504
01:14:22,250 --> 01:14:26,824
♪
1505
01:14:26,859 --> 01:14:28,826
When you're a Marine,
it's something special.
1506
01:14:28,861 --> 01:14:30,828
He was one of their brothers,
1507
01:14:30,863 --> 01:14:33,864
and you, being a family member,
1508
01:14:33,899 --> 01:14:35,998
you're now a family member.
1509
01:14:36,033 --> 01:14:39,969
♪
1510
01:14:40,004 --> 01:14:42,939
What did you see in your
family when Jon was there?
1511
01:14:42,974 --> 01:14:44,270
Joy, I think.
1512
01:14:44,305 --> 01:14:47,548
I think everyone's like...
1513
01:14:47,583 --> 01:14:49,781
It's just kinda cool
that you see someone
1514
01:14:49,816 --> 01:14:51,794
that's reaching out to you
that knew your brother,
1515
01:14:51,818 --> 01:14:53,180
and knew your son.
1516
01:14:53,215 --> 01:14:56,249
So, it's cool to
hear stories and hear
1517
01:14:56,284 --> 01:15:00,220
stuff that made Jon laugh that
Dustin would do, you know.
1518
01:15:00,255 --> 01:15:02,992
Hear your brother's name
livin' through someone else,
1519
01:15:03,027 --> 01:15:05,225
not just your close family.
1520
01:15:05,260 --> 01:15:13,260
♪
1521
01:15:20,781 --> 01:15:22,275
What's up, brother?
1522
01:15:23,982 --> 01:15:26,180
What the fuck?
1523
01:15:26,215 --> 01:15:28,248
- God!
- How you doin', bro?
1524
01:15:28,283 --> 01:15:30,316
Good, bro.
1525
01:15:30,351 --> 01:15:31,559
Oh!
1526
01:15:33,662 --> 01:15:37,191
- Yeah!
- There he is!
1527
01:15:37,226 --> 01:15:38,025
Your face.
1528
01:15:38,060 --> 01:15:39,765
- Yeah.
- You look as happy as ever.
1529
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:40,632
I know, right?
1530
01:15:40,668 --> 01:15:44,033
All right, well, say
hello to everybody.
1531
01:15:44,068 --> 01:15:45,903
- Dude!
- How you been?
1532
01:15:45,938 --> 01:15:47,036
Good.
1533
01:15:49,744 --> 01:15:52,910
Hancock's here!
1534
01:15:52,945 --> 01:15:56,617
Oh, God, ah!
1535
01:15:56,652 --> 01:15:58,751
- Oh!
- Motherfucker.
1536
01:15:58,786 --> 01:16:00,225
- How you doin', man?
- Doin' good, man.
1537
01:16:00,249 --> 01:16:01,600
Look at you, you
look like a mushroom.
1538
01:16:01,624 --> 01:16:03,954
- Yeah.
- Oh, there it is.
1539
01:16:03,989 --> 01:16:06,088
Toad, man.
1540
01:16:06,123 --> 01:16:08,992
Jesus!
1541
01:16:09,027 --> 01:16:10,290
Oh, shit!
1542
01:16:12,932 --> 01:16:19,233
♪
1543
01:16:19,268 --> 01:16:21,037
- What's up, Scottie?
- What's up, brother?
1544
01:16:21,072 --> 01:16:22,742
Goddamn!
1545
01:16:22,777 --> 01:16:24,876
Ah, it's so good
to see you, man.
1546
01:16:27,309 --> 01:16:30,981
♪
1547
01:16:31,016 --> 01:16:33,214
We didn't, I don't think,
realize what we had
1548
01:16:33,249 --> 01:16:35,821
and how fuckin' important
and special it was.
1549
01:16:35,856 --> 01:16:38,219
It's healing, for sure, but
I don't think this is a time
1550
01:16:38,254 --> 01:16:40,892
for us to fuckin' get
together and all fuckin' cry,
1551
01:16:40,927 --> 01:16:41,793
you know what I mean?
1552
01:16:41,828 --> 01:16:44,093
That's not what
this shit's about.
1553
01:16:44,128 --> 01:16:45,094
This shit's about
1554
01:16:45,129 --> 01:16:46,407
coming and enjoying
each other's company
1555
01:16:46,431 --> 01:16:49,395
and bein' able to crack the
most fuckin' inappropriate jokes
1556
01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:51,199
in the world with
each other and laugh,
1557
01:16:51,234 --> 01:16:54,037
and have a good time, and, like,
1558
01:16:54,072 --> 01:16:57,007
man, just release all
of this pent up shit.
1559
01:16:57,042 --> 01:16:58,679
With these guys, I
can talk to fuckin'...
1560
01:16:58,714 --> 01:17:00,406
I can talk about 'em with,
1561
01:17:00,441 --> 01:17:03,376
about fuckin'
anything, anything!
1562
01:17:03,411 --> 01:17:05,851
All the serious issues that's
in the world, or whatever,
1563
01:17:05,886 --> 01:17:06,984
don't fuckin' matter.
1564
01:17:07,019 --> 01:17:09,283
Here, here, they don't matter.
1565
01:17:09,318 --> 01:17:10,384
What matters is here.
1566
01:17:10,419 --> 01:17:13,793
This is it, we're
fuckin' doin' our thing.
1567
01:17:13,828 --> 01:17:14,727
Man, it's, I swear to God,
1568
01:17:14,763 --> 01:17:17,159
the best therapy in
the fuckin' world.
1569
01:17:17,194 --> 01:17:19,425
There's nothin' better
than this shit, man.
1570
01:17:19,460 --> 01:17:20,998
Really.
1571
01:17:21,033 --> 01:17:29,033
♪
1572
01:17:31,476 --> 01:17:33,274
Mike, get in here.
1573
01:17:33,309 --> 01:17:34,781
Mike, get in here!
1574
01:17:34,816 --> 01:17:36,244
- Come on.
- Let's go!
1575
01:17:36,279 --> 01:17:38,950
Come here.
1576
01:17:38,985 --> 01:17:39,684
I missed you, dude.
1577
01:17:39,719 --> 01:17:41,282
I missed you somethin' fierce.
1578
01:17:41,317 --> 01:17:42,723
Like, I miss...
1579
01:17:42,758 --> 01:17:43,902
Trust me, brother, I
wish I could have been
1580
01:17:43,926 --> 01:17:46,122
- out there walkin' with you.
- I fuckin' called you
1581
01:17:46,157 --> 01:17:49,862
all the goddamn time because
I fuckin' missed you.
1582
01:17:49,897 --> 01:17:53,129
It fuckin' hurt,
man, I was like,
1583
01:17:53,164 --> 01:17:54,845
"Fuck V, I don't give a
shit what he's doin'."
1584
01:17:54,869 --> 01:17:57,001
Nursin' degree, I don't care!
1585
01:17:57,036 --> 01:17:58,772
I'm a call him a 4:00 AM.
1586
01:17:58,807 --> 01:18:00,334
Fine, fuck it, it's all good.
1587
01:18:00,369 --> 01:18:01,335
Oh, you don't wanna answer?
1588
01:18:01,370 --> 01:18:03,238
"I'm a leave nine messages!"
1589
01:18:05,781 --> 01:18:07,209
Not bein' able to
see these guys,
1590
01:18:07,244 --> 01:18:09,442
or not knowing
how they're doing,
1591
01:18:09,477 --> 01:18:11,411
it sucks.
1592
01:18:11,446 --> 01:18:15,118
You start havin' issues
of PTSD, or whatever,
1593
01:18:15,153 --> 01:18:17,219
closest person
you can talk to is
1594
01:18:17,254 --> 01:18:18,902
the brothers you served
with 'cause they were
1595
01:18:18,926 --> 01:18:21,762
in the same dirt as you were.
1596
01:18:21,797 --> 01:18:23,434
And not bein' able to
get a hold of them,
1597
01:18:23,458 --> 01:18:26,261
or anything like that,
1598
01:18:26,296 --> 01:18:28,967
you tend to lose it.
1599
01:18:29,002 --> 01:18:30,804
You know, a lot of people,
1600
01:18:30,839 --> 01:18:34,940
or some of the guys
we deployed with,
1601
01:18:34,975 --> 01:18:37,140
kinda took the shitty
way out, you know,
1602
01:18:37,175 --> 01:18:40,209
suicides, or whatever.
1603
01:18:40,244 --> 01:18:44,477
♪
1604
01:18:44,512 --> 01:18:47,315
It's hard to
communicate, you know.
1605
01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:55,350
♪
1606
01:19:08,910 --> 01:19:16,910
♪
1607
01:19:18,051 --> 01:19:19,128
We all know what
this stands for,
1608
01:19:19,152 --> 01:19:22,053
and we know the heavy burden
this brings to us all.
1609
01:19:22,088 --> 01:19:24,858
Days like today, it's
these we remember for life
1610
01:19:24,893 --> 01:19:26,354
and we pass onto
our junior Marines
1611
01:19:26,389 --> 01:19:27,894
and their junior Marines.
1612
01:19:27,929 --> 01:19:28,828
I know you all
heard some stories
1613
01:19:28,864 --> 01:19:30,204
from some of these
other Marines up here,
1614
01:19:30,228 --> 01:19:32,261
some of our snipers,
our sergeant majors.
1615
01:19:34,166 --> 01:19:36,397
Carry them on.
1616
01:19:39,171 --> 01:19:40,544
I know there are a lot
of us who aren't here,
1617
01:19:40,568 --> 01:19:41,946
a lot of people who
couldn't make it.
1618
01:19:41,970 --> 01:19:45,142
There's people out there who
are hurtin', they're strugglin'.
1619
01:19:45,177 --> 01:19:46,847
- Stay on them.
- Fuckin' A.
1620
01:19:46,882 --> 01:19:47,848
Stay on them.
1621
01:19:47,883 --> 01:19:50,543
I talked a couple people
into getting here today,
1622
01:19:50,578 --> 01:19:53,480
and this is therapy, gentlemen.
1623
01:19:53,515 --> 01:19:55,218
Stay on them.
1624
01:19:55,253 --> 01:19:56,397
People out there are struggling,
1625
01:19:56,421 --> 01:19:58,518
they're hurting, they
don't wanna step forward.
1626
01:19:58,553 --> 01:20:00,091
Stay on them.
1627
01:20:00,126 --> 01:20:02,159
We can't lose
anybody, gentlemen.
1628
01:20:02,194 --> 01:20:03,358
We can't lose anybody.
1629
01:20:03,393 --> 01:20:05,294
- Very well said.
- Yeah.
1630
01:20:05,329 --> 01:20:07,461
What you guys maybe
don't realize yet
1631
01:20:07,496 --> 01:20:08,707
is that you guys are
a support network
1632
01:20:08,731 --> 01:20:12,301
that you're never ever gonna
find anywhere else, ever.
1633
01:20:12,336 --> 01:20:14,138
Make sure when you
guys fuckin' EAS,
1634
01:20:14,173 --> 01:20:17,042
and when your senior guys
get out, and shit like that,
1635
01:20:17,077 --> 01:20:18,483
stay in contact with
each other, man,
1636
01:20:18,507 --> 01:20:20,947
exactly what fuckin'
Endito's sayin' man.
1637
01:20:20,982 --> 01:20:22,949
We don't need to fuckin'
lose guys to suicide.
1638
01:20:22,984 --> 01:20:24,610
That's fuckin' horse
shit, you know.
1639
01:20:24,645 --> 01:20:26,480
We all need to be
here for each other
1640
01:20:26,515 --> 01:20:28,515
'cause nobody fuckin' else is.
1641
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:30,088
- They don't understand.
- Yup.
1642
01:20:30,123 --> 01:20:31,123
Oh, yeah.
1643
01:20:33,621 --> 01:20:37,898
♪ Gungi, gungi, gungi ♪
1644
01:20:37,933 --> 01:20:41,594
♪ Gungi, gungi, gungi ♪
1645
01:20:41,629 --> 01:20:45,103
♪ Blood and guts ♪
1646
01:20:45,138 --> 01:20:47,468
♪ Blood and guts ♪
1647
01:20:47,503 --> 01:20:51,076
♪ You can fuck with anybody ♪
1648
01:20:51,111 --> 01:20:54,310
♪ You can fuck with anybody ♪
1649
01:20:54,345 --> 01:20:58,083
♪ But you can't fuck with us ♪
1650
01:20:58,118 --> 01:21:01,482
♪ But you can't fuck with us ♪
1651
01:21:03,354 --> 01:21:05,651
You look at each other and
whether it's said or not,
1652
01:21:05,686 --> 01:21:07,554
I can forgive myself
for the things I've done
1653
01:21:07,589 --> 01:21:10,392
because I protected my brothers.
1654
01:21:10,427 --> 01:21:12,625
But how you were after,
1655
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:15,034
like how I was after...
1656
01:21:15,069 --> 01:21:18,004
♪
1657
01:21:18,039 --> 01:21:20,600
And the lives that I broke
1658
01:21:20,635 --> 01:21:25,110
when people were just
tryin' to hold on...
1659
01:21:25,145 --> 01:21:27,244
I put people through a ride.
1660
01:21:27,279 --> 01:21:29,213
♪
1661
01:21:29,248 --> 01:21:34,350
You have to go back and
you have to understand
1662
01:21:34,385 --> 01:21:37,991
where you were and who you were,
1663
01:21:38,026 --> 01:21:40,653
and you've gotta fix it.
1664
01:21:40,688 --> 01:21:43,062
You have to look at
yourself and sometimes admit
1665
01:21:43,097 --> 01:21:47,033
that you are the monster.
1666
01:21:47,068 --> 01:21:50,168
Dude, I was a fuckin'
monster to people.
1667
01:21:50,203 --> 01:21:52,368
I was a fuckin' monster.
1668
01:21:52,403 --> 01:21:55,404
♪
1669
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,243
Through everything, it's a lie
1670
01:21:59,278 --> 01:22:02,411
that you manufacture
to try to help yourself
1671
01:22:02,446 --> 01:22:05,249
get through some of it
1672
01:22:05,284 --> 01:22:10,991
because taking responsibility
for walking out on
1673
01:22:11,026 --> 01:22:13,455
anyone that loved you...
1674
01:22:13,490 --> 01:22:17,162
Shit,
1675
01:22:17,197 --> 01:22:19,395
how do you even
begin to do that?
1676
01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:24,136
♪
1677
01:22:24,171 --> 01:22:26,303
I've always tried to
1678
01:22:26,338 --> 01:22:31,275
keep Cole in at a distance
1679
01:22:31,310 --> 01:22:32,573
to protect him,
1680
01:22:32,608 --> 01:22:37,017
to protect his idea of his dad
1681
01:22:37,052 --> 01:22:41,285
because I don't want him
to know all that stuff.
1682
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,453
I don't want him to know
1683
01:22:44,488 --> 01:22:46,026
the stuff that Jon
and I went through.
1684
01:22:46,061 --> 01:22:47,687
I don't want him
to know that stuff.
1685
01:22:47,722 --> 01:22:52,230
I don't want him to,
1686
01:22:52,265 --> 01:22:56,201
to be afraid of
his dad, I don't...
1687
01:22:56,236 --> 01:22:58,038
Right now, he thinks
his dad is a hero.
1688
01:22:58,073 --> 01:22:59,699
He thinks that
1689
01:22:59,734 --> 01:23:01,437
his dad saved the world.
1690
01:23:01,472 --> 01:23:02,516
I mean, he thinks that stuff,
1691
01:23:02,540 --> 01:23:06,475
and I don't want him
thinking any differently.
1692
01:23:06,510 --> 01:23:11,348
So, like, when he's walking,
he calls me while he's walking.
1693
01:23:11,383 --> 01:23:14,714
One time he found,
1694
01:23:14,749 --> 01:23:18,718
he found these big tents,
1695
01:23:18,753 --> 01:23:21,259
and they were like that.
1696
01:23:21,294 --> 01:23:24,328
So these are the sticks.
1697
01:23:24,363 --> 01:23:26,627
So look at all these,
that's cool, huh?
1698
01:23:26,662 --> 01:23:27,494
- Yeah.
- Yeah,
1699
01:23:27,530 --> 01:23:32,039
and they're all
different colors.
1700
01:23:32,074 --> 01:23:34,701
That's where I am today.
1701
01:23:34,736 --> 01:23:36,670
How's a dinosaur say I love you?
1702
01:23:36,705 --> 01:23:37,803
I love you!
1703
01:23:37,838 --> 01:23:40,311
I love you too!
1704
01:23:40,346 --> 01:23:42,280
All right, buddy,
I'll talk to you soon.
1705
01:23:42,315 --> 01:23:50,315
♪
1706
01:23:51,753 --> 01:23:54,820
He didn't start with the mindset
that the was gonna save people
1707
01:23:54,855 --> 01:23:56,393
or change people's lives.
1708
01:23:56,428 --> 01:23:58,263
It's turned into that,
1709
01:23:58,298 --> 01:24:03,169
which he still, I think,
has a hard time seeing,
1710
01:24:03,204 --> 01:24:06,502
but Cole holds him in this,
1711
01:24:06,537 --> 01:24:08,768
up on this pedestal,
and I don't,
1712
01:24:08,803 --> 01:24:10,638
I don't ever want
that to change.
1713
01:24:10,673 --> 01:24:14,213
Please help my dad
to have a safe walk,
1714
01:24:14,248 --> 01:24:16,776
and please help him to be safe.
1715
01:24:16,811 --> 01:24:19,548
♪
1716
01:24:19,583 --> 01:24:23,618
So I'm afraid for
after this walk because
1717
01:24:23,653 --> 01:24:27,094
to me, he's doing
this great thing,
1718
01:24:27,129 --> 01:24:31,098
but it's also not
really real life.
1719
01:24:31,133 --> 01:24:33,331
When he got out of the
military, it was the same way.
1720
01:24:33,366 --> 01:24:36,763
He had a hard time transitioning
into real life and coping
1721
01:24:36,798 --> 01:24:39,403
with real life stuff.
1722
01:24:39,438 --> 01:24:41,768
And after this walk,
1723
01:24:41,803 --> 01:24:44,408
he's gonna be back to
1724
01:24:44,443 --> 01:24:46,410
facing real life stuff.
1725
01:24:46,445 --> 01:24:48,808
♪
1726
01:24:48,843 --> 01:24:50,843
Once again, I've not
lived in the real world
1727
01:24:50,878 --> 01:24:52,647
for a long period of time,
1728
01:24:52,682 --> 01:24:55,386
but I've been out
here walking around
1729
01:24:55,421 --> 01:24:57,850
meeting with men
that I served with,
1730
01:24:57,885 --> 01:25:00,457
trying to gain some
perspective on how to live.
1731
01:25:00,492 --> 01:25:03,757
I see a lot of guys, and
they do live pretty well.
1732
01:25:03,792 --> 01:25:06,694
And I guess the
fundamental difference is
1733
01:25:06,729 --> 01:25:08,894
is that they've
forgiven themselves...
1734
01:25:08,929 --> 01:25:12,799
♪
1735
01:25:12,834 --> 01:25:14,867
And I hadn't done that yet.
1736
01:25:14,902 --> 01:25:22,902
♪
1737
01:25:49,541 --> 01:25:57,541
♪
1738
01:26:16,865 --> 01:26:20,768
All I can do is be the
dad that I wanna be.
1739
01:26:20,803 --> 01:26:23,573
I don't know how to do that.
1740
01:26:23,608 --> 01:26:25,377
And it's tough on him because
1741
01:26:25,412 --> 01:26:26,556
he doesn't understand
what I'm doing,
1742
01:26:26,580 --> 01:26:28,974
and later on in life, God, I
really hope he understands it.
1743
01:26:29,009 --> 01:26:31,944
I really hope he understands
exactly what I had to go do
1744
01:26:31,979 --> 01:26:34,287
to try to help myself.
1745
01:26:34,322 --> 01:26:35,794
We're gonna have a lot
of really tough talks
1746
01:26:35,818 --> 01:26:37,587
later on in life, man,
1747
01:26:37,622 --> 01:26:39,490
and he's gonna ask
tough questions,
1748
01:26:39,525 --> 01:26:42,328
and I'm gonna have to
give him honest answers.
1749
01:26:42,363 --> 01:26:44,660
♪
1750
01:26:44,695 --> 01:26:46,959
He could totally hate me,
1751
01:26:46,994 --> 01:26:50,369
for sure.
1752
01:26:50,404 --> 01:26:51,964
But to be a great dad,
1753
01:26:51,999 --> 01:26:55,242
to be the dad I've seen
my dad to be to me,
1754
01:26:55,277 --> 01:26:56,870
sacrificing myself once again,
1755
01:26:56,905 --> 01:27:00,808
but now doing it for my
son so that he can see
1756
01:27:00,843 --> 01:27:04,911
the man that I have become
versus the man that I was,
1757
01:27:04,946 --> 01:27:06,011
and he needs to see that,
1758
01:27:06,046 --> 01:27:08,321
and he needs to
understand who I am.
1759
01:27:08,356 --> 01:27:10,587
♪
1760
01:27:10,622 --> 01:27:18,023
♪ We came a long,
long, way back home
1761
01:27:18,058 --> 01:27:25,305
to see you one more time ♪
1762
01:27:25,340 --> 01:27:32,642
♪ We came a long,
long way back home
1763
01:27:32,677 --> 01:27:39,682
to see you and say goodbye ♪
1764
01:27:39,717 --> 01:27:47,294
♪ We came a long,
long way back home
1765
01:27:47,329 --> 01:27:54,334
to see you one more time ♪
1766
01:27:54,369 --> 01:28:01,704
♪ We came a long,
long way back home
1767
01:28:01,739 --> 01:28:09,316
to hold you and say goodbye ♪
1768
01:28:09,351 --> 01:28:12,418
♪ Oh ♪
1769
01:28:12,453 --> 01:28:20,453
♪
1770
01:28:33,969 --> 01:28:37,707
Well, firstly, thank
you for havin' me.
1771
01:28:37,742 --> 01:28:40,006
And to the 2/4
Marines Association
1772
01:28:40,041 --> 01:28:43,944
and to all active duty members
of the Marine Corps now,
1773
01:28:43,979 --> 01:28:45,748
thank you for your
continued service.
1774
01:28:45,783 --> 01:28:47,453
I'm happy I made it,
1775
01:28:47,488 --> 01:28:50,082
and it was pretty long.
1776
01:28:50,117 --> 01:28:51,567
I didn't know how
I was gonna do it,
1777
01:28:51,591 --> 01:28:53,987
but I just knew that
I had to go and do it.
1778
01:28:54,022 --> 01:28:56,561
And I can tell you that I'm not
1779
01:28:56,596 --> 01:28:59,498
the same person that I was.
1780
01:28:59,533 --> 01:29:02,897
I don't have the desire
1781
01:29:02,932 --> 01:29:05,801
to hate myself anymore.
1782
01:29:05,836 --> 01:29:07,572
I could never not
take responsibility
1783
01:29:07,607 --> 01:29:10,971
for who I am or what
I'm doing ever again.
1784
01:29:11,006 --> 01:29:14,513
And for a long
time, that was lost.
1785
01:29:14,548 --> 01:29:19,078
I'm here today, and I see this
amount of support, which is...
1786
01:29:19,113 --> 01:29:21,487
First off, thank you so much.
1787
01:29:21,522 --> 01:29:22,983
It really warms my heart.
1788
01:29:23,018 --> 01:29:24,853
- Love you, Hancock!
- Love you, Jon!
1789
01:29:27,429 --> 01:29:28,538
But I've met a couple
interesting people
1790
01:29:28,562 --> 01:29:29,695
along the way,
1791
01:29:29,730 --> 01:29:32,025
and a lot of people have taught
me a lot of life lessons,
1792
01:29:32,060 --> 01:29:34,797
but one of those people
is actually here today,
1793
01:29:34,832 --> 01:29:36,865
a woman named Lorelei Simons.
1794
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:40,132
Lorelei Simons had a
son who was in the Army,
1795
01:29:40,167 --> 01:29:44,411
and deployed multiple times,
and when he came home,
1796
01:29:44,446 --> 01:29:47,546
he didn't win that fight.
1797
01:29:47,581 --> 01:29:50,076
And she came to me and said,
1798
01:29:50,111 --> 01:29:53,552
"If it's possible
and your shoes fit,
1799
01:29:53,587 --> 01:29:55,422
would you be able to
wear my son's shoes
1800
01:29:55,457 --> 01:29:57,688
across the country?"
1801
01:29:57,723 --> 01:30:01,087
Well, I was in need
of a pair of shoes,
1802
01:30:01,122 --> 01:30:04,827
but that immediately... I was
not gonna say no to that woman.
1803
01:30:04,862 --> 01:30:07,159
Lorelei, these shoes got me
1804
01:30:07,194 --> 01:30:12,164
from Miller, South
Dakota to Spokane Valley.
1805
01:30:12,199 --> 01:30:15,167
And I took 'em off so that I
wouldn't damage' em any more
1806
01:30:15,202 --> 01:30:18,104
'cause I wanted to bring
them to you here today.
1807
01:30:18,139 --> 01:30:19,842
Can you come up
here for a minute?
1808
01:30:25,212 --> 01:30:26,948
Thank you.
1809
01:30:26,983 --> 01:30:28,587
It's an honor.
1810
01:30:28,622 --> 01:30:29,687
I love you.
1811
01:30:29,722 --> 01:30:34,021
Love you too.
1812
01:30:34,056 --> 01:30:36,155
To my family,
1813
01:30:36,190 --> 01:30:39,994
thank you for being there,
even in the darkest of times.
1814
01:30:40,029 --> 01:30:41,930
And to my son,
1815
01:30:41,965 --> 01:30:44,603
I had to go away
for a little while.
1816
01:30:44,638 --> 01:30:46,000
And the gravity of this,
1817
01:30:46,035 --> 01:30:48,541
I don't think you'll grasp yet,
1818
01:30:48,576 --> 01:30:49,916
but just know that
I had to go away
1819
01:30:49,940 --> 01:30:53,106
so that dad could
go get strong, okay?
1820
01:30:53,141 --> 01:30:54,778
How's a dinosaur say I love you?
1821
01:30:54,813 --> 01:30:55,845
I love you!
1822
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,178
I love you too!
1823
01:30:59,213 --> 01:31:00,784
Ladies and gentlemen,
1824
01:31:00,819 --> 01:31:03,490
thank you so much,
thanks for everything.
1825
01:31:03,525 --> 01:31:05,151
Semper fidelis.
1826
01:31:05,186 --> 01:31:06,592
Have a good day.
1827
01:31:09,025 --> 01:31:17,025
♪
1828
01:31:30,948 --> 01:31:33,245
♪ Into the world, to the wild ♪
1829
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,280
♪ No place for a child ♪
1830
01:31:35,315 --> 01:31:37,623
♪ Used my voice to howl
1831
01:31:37,658 --> 01:31:41,759
with the ghouls of night
1832
01:31:41,794 --> 01:31:44,564
in the dyin' light ♪
1833
01:31:44,599 --> 01:31:47,160
♪
1834
01:31:47,195 --> 01:31:52,066
♪ I'm losin' control
my body, my soul
1835
01:31:52,101 --> 01:31:56,235
are slowly fadin' away ♪
1836
01:31:56,270 --> 01:32:03,242
♪ But I'm ready now to
feel the power of change ♪
1837
01:32:03,277 --> 01:32:07,620
♪ I'm my mother's child ♪
1838
01:32:07,655 --> 01:32:11,756
♪ I'm my father's son ♪
1839
01:32:11,791 --> 01:32:15,892
♪ It took me a while
1840
01:32:15,927 --> 01:32:20,061
but my time has come
1841
01:32:20,096 --> 01:32:23,867
to be born again ♪
1842
01:32:23,902 --> 01:32:28,575
♪
1843
01:32:28,610 --> 01:32:31,941
♪ To be born again ♪
1844
01:32:31,976 --> 01:32:39,976
♪
1845
01:32:45,385 --> 01:32:48,760
Stigma tends to perpetuate
this idea around
1846
01:32:48,795 --> 01:32:51,026
defectiveness,
1847
01:32:51,061 --> 01:32:54,260
but we're not broken.
1848
01:32:54,295 --> 01:32:56,768
We're not crazy.
1849
01:32:56,803 --> 01:32:59,804
We've been through things that
1850
01:32:59,839 --> 01:33:03,709
are difficult for people
to even begin to fathom.
1851
01:33:03,744 --> 01:33:05,205
We're not victims,
1852
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,241
we're survivors.
1853
01:33:08,276 --> 01:33:10,177
So many people get out,
lose their mission,
1854
01:33:10,212 --> 01:33:12,179
lose track, lose sight.
1855
01:33:12,214 --> 01:33:14,313
We have this fuckin' superpower.
1856
01:33:14,348 --> 01:33:17,217
We went through somethin'
that fuckin' nobody else did.
1857
01:33:17,252 --> 01:33:20,825
♪
1858
01:33:20,860 --> 01:33:23,927
PTSD can stop you,
but you can't let it.
1859
01:33:23,962 --> 01:33:25,863
Anything that we put
our goddamn minds to,
1860
01:33:25,898 --> 01:33:28,030
you can move a fuckin'
mountain, dude.
1861
01:33:30,672 --> 01:33:34,641
♪
1862
01:33:37,272 --> 01:33:40,273
I feel an amount of pain
1863
01:33:40,308 --> 01:33:42,077
all the time,
1864
01:33:42,112 --> 01:33:43,947
but it drives me.
1865
01:33:43,982 --> 01:33:46,345
It makes me want to be better.
1866
01:33:46,380 --> 01:33:49,788
♪
1867
01:33:49,823 --> 01:33:52,021
A lot of me hurt me,
1868
01:33:52,056 --> 01:33:55,387
but a lot of that
same me saved me.
1869
01:33:55,422 --> 01:33:58,896
There was a lot of
desire to change,
1870
01:33:58,931 --> 01:34:02,427
but there wasn't motivation.
1871
01:34:02,462 --> 01:34:04,297
We do these things
because we don't feel
1872
01:34:04,332 --> 01:34:05,903
that we're good enough.
1873
01:34:05,938 --> 01:34:09,038
We feel like the great
guys are the ones that
1874
01:34:09,073 --> 01:34:11,139
went before us, and here we are
1875
01:34:11,174 --> 01:34:13,405
fuckin' up their name.
1876
01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:15,341
I don't want that to happen.
1877
01:34:15,376 --> 01:34:17,948
I don't wanna sully their memory
1878
01:34:17,983 --> 01:34:20,016
by leaving early,
1879
01:34:20,051 --> 01:34:24,284
or by not giving them all
the credit that is due,
1880
01:34:24,319 --> 01:34:27,419
and then living my own life.
1881
01:34:27,454 --> 01:34:29,795
I don't get to
realize their dreams,
1882
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:33,832
but they gave me the
ability to realize mine.
1883
01:34:33,867 --> 01:34:36,461
That's, that's where it is.
1884
01:34:36,496 --> 01:34:44,496
♪
1885
01:35:14,006 --> 01:35:22,006
♪
1886
01:35:38,294 --> 01:35:44,496
♪ I'm taken back by all
these different footprints
1887
01:35:44,531 --> 01:35:50,810
littered all along
this lonely road ♪
1888
01:35:50,845 --> 01:35:56,948
♪ Loosening these
worn out inhibitions ♪
1889
01:35:56,983 --> 01:36:03,086
♪ Covering this
tired lonely soul ♪
1890
01:36:03,121 --> 01:36:05,319
♪ Wind blows wild ♪
1891
01:36:05,354 --> 01:36:11,523
♪ These thoughts
inside my mind ♪
1892
01:36:11,558 --> 01:36:16,462
♪ Don't mind ♪
1893
01:36:16,497 --> 01:36:22,567
♪ I've gone past believin'
1894
01:36:22,602 --> 01:36:28,111
this is the only thing I
have that's left to do ♪
1895
01:36:28,146 --> 01:36:36,146
♪
1896
01:36:56,471 --> 01:36:59,472
♪ My thoughts are
1897
01:36:59,507 --> 01:37:02,508
like Moses
1898
01:37:02,543 --> 01:37:05,544
spread water
1899
01:37:05,579 --> 01:37:08,855
spread water
1900
01:37:08,890 --> 01:37:11,924
spread water ♪
1901
01:37:11,959 --> 01:37:18,062
♪ I've gone past believin'
1902
01:37:18,097 --> 01:37:24,200
I'm on this road to you ♪
1903
01:37:24,235 --> 01:37:30,305
♪ I'm on this road to you ♪
1904
01:37:30,340 --> 01:37:36,443
♪ I'm on this road to you ♪
1905
01:37:36,478 --> 01:37:42,581
♪ I'm on this road to you ♪
1906
01:37:42,616 --> 01:37:48,928
♪ I'm on this road
1907
01:37:48,963 --> 01:37:51,964
I'm on this road
1908
01:37:51,999 --> 01:37:54,329
to you ♪
1909
01:37:54,364 --> 01:37:58,300
♪
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